Big Blue Wave's Comments
But the fetus has to be the scapegoat.
Really, why? You're the one insisting there has to be a scapegoat. Is there a scapegoat in any other surgery? Do tell.
Because voiceless, hidden, unborn children in women's uteruses have no power and no input.
You forgot "mindless". Though that inconveniently brings up the minor detail that they have no thoughts to input.
Well they're all compelling, aren't they?
Here's the thing: I wouldn't have a compelling reason to seek a second term abortion. Because I already know that I am not going to carry any pregnancy to term, it would essentially boil down to, "yeah, I couldn't be bothered dealing with this earlier." That would be a bad reason to wait.
It's also not going to happen.
Women who seek them at that point have a good reason because if they knew up front that they were pregnant and going to seek an abortion, they'd do it while it was still convenient. The longer you wait, the more it sucks.
Does that clarify anything for you?
Are you serious????
"Does the abortionist have to rip the baby limb from limb, as they do in secon-trimester abortions?"
What a curious question. I have had 2 dear friends who had to indure labour to deliver dead babies, WANTED babies, because it was the least risk to the woman. No quiet c-sections for them!
And before you label me, I am the proud mother of 5. Abortion was never on my mind, but if any of my girls had come to me pregnant....I would have counciled them to consider adoption, but would have respected any choice they made. Their body/life, not mine.
Luckily, sexual education and birth control information, made that a moot point.
What a curious question. I have had 2 dear friends who had to indure labour to deliver dead babies, WANTED babies, because it was the least risk to the woman.
How is the fact that these babies were wanted make it less bad that they were killed?
Luckily, sexual education and birth control information, made that a moot point.
Even with the most effective contraception, pregnancy is never a moot point. It can always happen. The average woman can expect at least one unexpected pregnancy in her life.
One of the saddest times of my life was last summer when my daughter aborted my first grandchild. The circumstances of her pregnancy were very sad for her, and the voices of a society that does not value an unborn child, and consequently does not in truth value any human life just as a human life, were louder and more insistent than the small still voice in her heart, and the love of her Father and her father.
I could not force her to make a choice by turning my back on her unless she did what I wanted. Instead, I chose to spend time with her, hearing her story, sharing my truths, but mainly loving her as her father. I had to accept that she, as an adult had available a choice that could kill an unborn child.
When she told me later that she had had the abortion, I wept for 2 weeks for the unborn child, and for her as well, for the pain that she will probably one day endure when the enormity of the choice she has made hits her, and for the loss of the last bit of my own baby's innocence.
I baptized my grandchild in the spirit and commended him to a loving God, and asked him to pray with God for his mother and his grampa. His name is Michael and though he died, yet he lives.
"Pro-life physicians say that even when a mother's life is at stake, there is no need for abortion."
These so-called pro-life doctors are will to sacrifice the woman in order to save a fetus? I am curious as to how this works with their medical ethics thingy -- "Do no harm".
PS The fetus is not hidden -- everyone knows where it is!
How is the fact that these babies were wanted make it less bad that they were killed?
I think you misread her statement (the typo makes it difficult to tell if it was supposed to be "endure" or "induce"). I read it as they were already dead but the woman had to go through labour instead of having them removed any other way.
I think that's what she was saying.
In cases where the fetus is viable, and the mother's life is in danger from the pregnancy, they can do a cessarian section. Or they can induce labor. This ends the pregnancy, and ends whatever medical problem the pregnancy is causing for the mother. The baby can then be put in the neonatal ICU, where it can be cared for and helped to live.
There is no need for a late term abortion, even if the mother's life is in danger from the pregnancy. Ending the pregnancy, without killing the baby, will solve the mom's problem. Then you try to save the baby. It ends the pregnancy, but is definitely NOT an abortion.
"even if the mother's life is in danger from the pregnancy."
Just an interesting side note: Sometimes pregnancy can actually save lives. I know of a young woman who was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. Standard medical treatments were no longer of any use and she had begun a new dietary treatment. In the course of things, she became pregnant. As a result of her pregnancy (in conjunction with the dietary treatment), her cancer went into remission.
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