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I applaud you. Very good letter. I am glad their are people on the conservative side like you that can make their point the way you do. I am much more abrasive in the way I make points, however each of us have our own way of getting conservatives to see our point of view.
I hope Michelle will read and consider your letter.
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What is a "Rino"?
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03.07.07 - 8:02 am | #
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So how about maybe thinking of drawing away from Coulter because it's the right thing to do? Ever think of that? It seems like an awful lot of "conservatives,"--for all your talk about right and wrong, and how the awful iberals have these nasty "situational ethics,"--don't really care about anything but power. If it gets you more power, then by all means do it. If it doesn't, then you come up with all kinds of excuses not to. Jesus would be really proud of you people.
And just to let you know, Coulter deserves nothing but contempt for her slur. It doesn't matter if Edwars is straight, it's still a slur. Would you say it's all right to call a white guy "nigger"? How about a light skinned black guy? After all, he's not "really" black, right? So what's his problem?
But this whole "faggot" thing is not some awful line Coulter crossed for the first time. She's made her living demonizing and dehumanizing all kinds of people for years. She traffics in hatred. But then so has much of the conservative movement in the U.S. for the last 10 or 15 years.
You know, liberals are Americans, too.
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Ann isn't wrong. Maybe if the PC police weren't trying to put people into "rehab" for their opinions, I would have more sympathy for you. Or maybe if you didn't claim that the entire conservative movement was guilty of "hate", I would "feel your pain." Or maybe if the left hadn't said the same thing about Ronald Reagan and every other conservative since the beginning of time, you would have some credibility. And it takes more to be an "American" than simply being physically located within our borders.
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"Rino" means "Republican in name only."
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Of course it's wrong. I can only guess at the howls of outrage we'd be hearing if some big name liberal, say, Al Franken, had gone to a national Democratic or liberal convention and called Christians the equivilent (whatever that might be) of "raghead," or called George Bush a "faggot."
My God, they way you people shreiked when Ward Churchill slurred the people who died in the attacks in 2001, it was weird. Nobody had ever heard of Churchill; I certainly hadn't. And yet conservatives demanded that liberals "renounce" this awful, awful guy.
I really don't understand you people. I mean for people with such thin skins, you sure do love to threaten, insult and demean other people.
You've made pitting one group of Americans against another a way of getting and holding power: you've institutionalized it in your party. What the hell do you think this whole "Defense of Marriage Amendment" is? It's a way to pit a small and vulnerable minority against the rest of society.
And yet when some no-name blogger or small time college teacher noody knows of says something awful, suddenly "civility" is the most important thing in the world.
As for the rehab, well, as I understand it, some basketbal player caled another player a "faggot" and so the league sent him to some kind of, for lack of a better word, "rehab". You've made hay over this, and it's an easy target, make no mistake. But the guy is a basketball player, and he is one of the public faces of the league. As such, the league has a right to insist that he show a better face to the public. It's not like the "P.C. Police," as you so cleverly put it, are yanking random civilians off the street for spealing slurs. The guy can say "faggot" all he wants. He just might not be playing basketbal to much longer if he does. It's his choice. Considering how much basketball players earn, sitting through a few sensitivity classes doesn't seem like such an awful hardship.
Of course, I'm not in the guy's shoes, and so maybe it isn't fair for me to dismiss his suffering so cavilierly. If I were in his stead, maybe I'd choose to forgo the training and give up my lucrative career. But, and here's the thing, it would be MY choice. Nobody's forcing anything on me, just as nobody's forcing anythin on the basketball player.
And as for Coulter, of course she has every right to cal John Edwards a "faggot." What she has no right to do is to do it with no consequences. People are going to tear into her, as they well should. And if people like you are going to wail about how unfair it is to attack Coulter, indeed, if you are going to spring to her defense, then you really have no right to reel back in shock and horror when somebody on the left says something you think is naughty or mean, mean, mean. And that goes double for the no-name liberals like Churchill or that weird woman blogger from Arizona or wherever it was that hardly anyone had ever heard of before.
And
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So sure you have every right to scream any kinds of slurs you want. You just don't have the right to do it without eing called on it.
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You know better than that. The issue with Churchill wasn't "civility." It was about having someone on the payroll who advocates for America's enemies.
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Sure seemed to me that it had everything to do with "civility." If not, then why all the fuss about throwing him up in liberals' faces all the time?
I mean if his being on the faculty of a college was the real issue, then why didn't all the people--many of them influential--just go straight to the college where he taught or teaches (I don't know if he still teaches anymore or not)? But no, he became an icon that rightwingers used to beat up on liberals, by insisting that we "denounce" him.
Well, for what it's worth, I think the guy's an asshole. I don't like what he said, and I can't begin to imagine that 1 i 1000 liberals would.
But that isn't the point. The point is that this was some guy nobody had ever heard of before the right dragged him into the spotlight and insisted all good liberals had to dutifully denounce him. And it seems like all the people the right can find who are beyond the pale, who say and believe indefensible things, are these nobodies. Some obscure radical teacher in Colorado or wherever it was; some blogger in Arizona or somewhere nobody had ever heard of; some anonymous commenters on liberal blogs.
With the right, you don't have to go digging through the dregs to find unconscienable words or deeds: the leaders of the conservative movement spew the worst kind of stuff all the time: Coulter, Limbaugh, Michael Savage...
Michelle Malkin wrote book about how conservatives come down hard when one of their members says something uancceptable, while liberals have no standards of decency.
Well, let me ask you one thing: When was the last time you saw Churchill on some talking head show? And how about Coulter?
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"And it takes more to be an "American" than simply being physically located within our borders."
Excuse me – perhaps you are not aware of this, but in fact all you need to be an American is citizenship. “American” is not a thought, an emotion, a philosophy, a bumper sticker or any other pre-determined ideology a fellow American such as you creates. I myself am an American, born and raised. I vote every year and gladly give my taxes to a country I love – and yes I believe Ann Coulter’s remarks to be insensitive, brass, hateful and self-promoting.
This woman has made a career out of abusing knowledge. She takes the most sacred thing we as humans have and spins it into money making remarks. I am not a “liberal” – hell I do not even know what that word means anymore. Do you think I am a liberal because I find it wrong to attack people on the basis of sexuality? Do you think I am a liberal because I believe my President should be held accountable for his words and actions – just as I am at my school, work and home? Do you believe I am a liberal simply because I want to believe in what America stands for: rights, equality and justice for EVERYONE?
I have never heard Michelle Malkin or Ann Coulter speak without throwing around that grossly understated generalization of “liberal.” I have voted republican, however I usually tend to side with that of the Democrats on most social issues. I have close friends who are staunch republicans – but they have something that I can always respect – compassion and heart. I have never called Ronald Reagan a “faggot.” I have never called anyone a “faggot.” I do not know a single “liberal” that has called some one a “faggot” for simply disagreeing with them. As Americans we may have freedom of speech, but to move forward and solve the problems of our country we must free ourselves from the freedom of hate.
Why do Republicans put such one-sided people, with so much hatred toward their fellow Americans in positions of media power?
“There is a reason that Islam is known as the "religion of peace" while Christianity is reviled for homophobia, racism, intolerance, etc. That reason is fear. Islam saws off heads while the Christian churches welcome gays into the clergy. The more gays Christianity welcomes into positions of power, the more the Church will be known as "homophobic." The more heads Islam saws off, the more the western media will declare that Islam is peaceful”
Do you even think before you write such things? Are you a Christian? Now for the big question - are you capable of printing an honest thought? If the answer is yes please tell me how you could make such inexcusable remarks? Why do people always attempt to parallel “liberalism” with being godless? I remember all to well the 2004 presidential campaign. The way Republicans were able to spin the truth, creating a Christian patriot George Bush and a godless traitor Jon Kerry. Both of those descriptions couldn’t be f
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Both of those descriptions couldn’t be farther from the truth.
I only hope that some day the lines between Democrat and Republican can be blurred. That some one can lead this country with a will to unite on the basis of what is best for this country and not what is best for any political group, company or family.
Until that time may God save us all
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I don't think anyone is still paying attention, but here is a point to consider. "American" means more than simply paying taxes, being located in one particular geographic land mass and having the right paperwork for citizenship. You cheapen the very concept. [Under your definition, even Muslims could be Americans.] Being American IS a philosophy. It implies freedom, property rights, limited government, capitalism, judeo-christian tradition, a continuation of western civilization that has been handed down to us from the ancient Greeks through the Romans through the Western Europe of the Renaissance, etc. All of these concepts produced a people unique in the history of the world, until the New Deal began reversing the process. I love reading leftists who cheapen the concept of "American" by reducing it to paperwork or geography and then they expect a cookie when they call themselves "American." If it means so little, why do you expect credit for calling yourself "American."
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So, if somebody referred to Ann Coulter as an emaciated slut, would that be acceptable discourse? Soory, but I think Coulter's "joke" was disgraceful. And it goes right along with her various "jokes" about having her political opponents assassinated or fed rat poison. I'm sick of Ann Coulter defecating on the conservative cause.
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No, you are not. If you were a true conservative, you would know that Ann's reference to assassination was meant to point out the left's policy of advocating the death of prominent conservatives. Ann was pointing out the double standard. You are sick of Ann pointing out the double standard, not of any "harm" done to the conservative cause. I am sick of shills and hacks pretending to be conservatives so they can slander Ann.
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