ˇEl Grito del Mexicano Quien no se Arrepiente!
Eloquent as always, Neza... (and quoted on my site). One spooky thing is that today is the 38th anniversary of the Tlatelolco Massacre.
Eloquent as always, Neza... (and quoted on my site). One spooky thing is that today is the 38th anniversary of the Tlatelolco Massacre.
Tenks, man. That is somethin' else, no doubt.
Tenks, man. That is somethin' else, no doubt.
Small bombs hit banks in Mexico's Oaxaca
http://today.reuters.com/news/ar...pc=66&
type=qcna
i think things are going to get worse before they get any better in mexico.. its sad
Small bombs hit banks in Mexico's Oaxaca
http://today.reuters.com/news/ar...pc=66&
type=qcna
i think things are going to get worse before they get any better in mexico.. its sad
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man.
gracias for droppin the link, Fred.
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man.
gracias for droppin the link, Fred.
I’ve been working on a film lately. Well, mostly I’ve just been cooped up in my apartment watching the footage over and over but procrastinating the actual film while lurking around on the blogs. 
I have hours of footage. I need to edit it into something but I don’t really know that much about film editing.
I should finish it though. It speaks so much to this topic. It is sort of about how indigenous people are oppressed in much the same way as Chicanos in the U.S. (internal colonialism here vs. there type stuff). They are used for a source of cheap labor, arn't allowed to speak their first language in school, etc. Their language is dieing off as they move out of their communities, much like ours. Some of their small children are embarrassed to speak it.
Watching the footage and reading the recent news reports about Oaxaca make me want to say "Fuck Mexico and the U.S. and all other counties that exploit people"--Well, I guess that would be all the countries. I'm starting to think this is the purpose of a country.
I hope they continue to resist though. Watching footage of an indigenous woman talking about how when she was young, teachers would hit her for speaking her language reminded me of my grandfather who went to segregated school for Mexicans in California. I can't understand the Spanish in the film because of this culture loss. It is one of the things I've always had trouble talking about. Now here I am fumbling around with spanish-to-english subtitles (?).
It is strange how the powers that be call this progress. I don't see child abuse (by the government or parents) dieing down as a result of this so-called progress. Must be why so many of us want to stay children. We want to get back the childhood that was stollen from us in this fucked up system. It is what is owed to us. We want that care free feeling that we've read about realized.
I can't imagine what the children in Oaxaca are going through.
Anyways, thanks for answering my "what it is to be a Chicano, what is resistance" questions in a previous post. I didn't comment because sometimes I find that issues that are that close to me are hard to put into words. Okay, now I'm rambling...
I’ve been working on a film lately. Well, mostly I’ve just been cooped up in my apartment watching the footage over and over but procrastinating the actual film while lurking around on the blogs.
I have hours of footage. I need to edit it into something but I don’t really know that much about film editing.
I should finish it though. It speaks so much to this topic. It is sort of about how indigenous people are oppressed in much the same way as Chicanos in the U.S. (internal colonialism here vs. there type stuff). They are used for a source of cheap labor, arn't allowed to speak their first language in school, etc. Their language is dieing off as they move out of their communities, much like ours. Some of their small children are embarrassed to speak it.
Watching the footage and reading the recent news reports about Oaxaca make me want to say "Fuck Mexico and the U.S. and all other counties that exploit people"--Well, I guess that would be all the countries. I'm starting to think this is the purpose of a country.
I hope they continue to resist though. Watching footage of an indigenous woman talking about how when she was young, teachers would hit her for speaking her language reminded me of my grandfather who went to segregated school for Mexicans in California. I can't understand the Spanish in the film because of this culture loss. It is one of the things I've always had trouble talking about. Now here I am fumbling around with spanish-to-english subtitles (?).
It is strange how the powers that be call this progress. I don't see child abuse (by the government or parents) dieing down as a result of this so-called progress. Must be why so many of us want to stay children. We want to get back the childhood that was stollen from us in this fucked up system. It is what is owed to us. We want that care free feeling that we've read about realized.
I can't imagine what the children in Oaxaca are going through.
Anyways, thanks for answering my "what it is to be a Chicano, what is resistance" questions in a previous post. I didn't comment because sometimes I find that issues that are that close to me are hard to put into words. Okay, now I'm rambling...
a government claims to be for the good, but inevitably, people at the top use it for their own gain, and the masses suffer. Or maybe we all make too many selfish and lazy decisions, and it all adds up. I'm not sure.
Bombs have hit the banks in Oaxaca, I do bleeve that link above said. I don't know who set off what. But at least nobody was hurt during that instance.
Do you really think most people want to stay children? Hmmm. Maybe I'm taking you too literally, but I don't think I'd want to stay a child. I do want to not have destructive, limiting, deadening, or deceptive energy impressed upon me. I want to stay free in my heart, or get there. I want to be open and yet indestructible in my flex. But I very much enjoy the wisdom and lessons and confidence and humility i gain as i learn more and age more. "Care free"? Yes, I guess we do all want a carefree feeling. Perhaps we are foolish in that way. Would one really want to not have any cares at all?
I agree...I think of the children in Oaxaca. And the children here in the USA, too. There are far too many kids living in terrible conditions in our own country. Just think "Katrina," for starters.
I didn't mind exploring your question...for myself. But the question you posed is a personal question, and you still have to find your own answer.
Why don't you make up a name to use? The "???" is rather impersonal, no?
a government claims to be for the good, but inevitably, people at the top use it for their own gain, and the masses suffer. Or maybe we all make too many selfish and lazy decisions, and it all adds up. I'm not sure.
Bombs have hit the banks in Oaxaca, I do bleeve that link above said. I don't know who set off what. But at least nobody was hurt during that instance.
Do you really think most people want to stay children? Hmmm. Maybe I'm taking you too literally, but I don't think I'd want to stay a child. I do want to not have destructive, limiting, deadening, or deceptive energy impressed upon me. I want to stay free in my heart, or get there. I want to be open and yet indestructible in my flex. But I very much enjoy the wisdom and lessons and confidence and humility i gain as i learn more and age more. "Care free"? Yes, I guess we do all want a carefree feeling. Perhaps we are foolish in that way. Would one really want to not have any cares at all?
I agree...I think of the children in Oaxaca. And the children here in the USA, too. There are far too many kids living in terrible conditions in our own country. Just think "Katrina," for starters.
I didn't mind exploring your question...for myself. But the question you posed is a personal question, and you still have to find your own answer.
Why don't you make up a name to use? The "???" is rather impersonal, no?
Man, you know, it just makes me so angry. The people, they just keep getting screwed over and over, in Mexico (well probably here too it's just not as obvious, sabes, except when things like Katrina happen as you point out). Perhaps it will have to get worse before it gets better but it makes me despair. Need another revolution.
Man, you know, it just makes me so angry. The people, they just keep getting screwed over and over, in Mexico (well probably here too it's just not as obvious, sabes, except when things like Katrina happen as you point out). Perhaps it will have to get worse before it gets better but it makes me despair. Need another revolution.
FlashPoints had a good segment on Oaxaca yesterday
FlashPoints had a good segment on Oaxaca yesterday
I know, turtlebella. It's so often painful to watch. I do think Mexicans are being oppressed in their own country. And Mexican Americans here in America, too, in many cases.
And the reason I point to our own country here, and in the post, and the reason I guard against pitying Mexico too much is that it can easily turn into more of the ole Colonialist Empathy type stuff, the poor Mex, we really ought to save them type of view. America's interventions in Mexico are the type of thing that help out Fox very often, and he is one of those who causes corruption like this to prosper, who rides in on it, who brings it to stay in power. Just like our own Garish Old Pederasts currently under the media microscope. These fools only know one jar to dip into, and it's rotting away the fabric of a sane society.
It bothered me a lot to watch the Presidential election in Mexico get stolen because Mexico really should have had fair elections after so much shit they've dealt with, corruption wise. And having lived through the Kerry ordeal and the Gore ordeal here...or I oughtta say the BUSH ordeal, I felt I was going back in time and seeing the same shit go down there. But that's over, the world spins on as always, greed ruling the stronger men too often, or at least the men who bother to seek public power. At least in Oaxaca, they can sleep with a clean conscience, eh? Even if they don't know if they'll wake up in the morning. That's no small prize.
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Thanks for the link, Arcturus.
I know, turtlebella. It's so often painful to watch. I do think Mexicans are being oppressed in their own country. And Mexican Americans here in America, too, in many cases.
And the reason I point to our own country here, and in the post, and the reason I guard against pitying Mexico too much is that it can easily turn into more of the ole Colonialist Empathy type stuff, the poor Mex, we really ought to save them type of view. America's interventions in Mexico are the type of thing that help out Fox very often, and he is one of those who causes corruption like this to prosper, who rides in on it, who brings it to stay in power. Just like our own Garish Old Pederasts currently under the media microscope. These fools only know one jar to dip into, and it's rotting away the fabric of a sane society.
It bothered me a lot to watch the Presidential election in Mexico get stolen because Mexico really should have had fair elections after so much shit they've dealt with, corruption wise. And having lived through the Kerry ordeal and the Gore ordeal here...or I oughtta say the BUSH ordeal, I felt I was going back in time and seeing the same shit go down there. But that's over, the world spins on as always, greed ruling the stronger men too often, or at least the men who bother to seek public power. At least in Oaxaca, they can sleep with a clean conscience, eh? Even if they don't know if they'll wake up in the morning. That's no small prize.
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Thanks for the link, Arcturus.
my pleasure. in my little cornoer of the world, FlashPoints is essential listening. It's the rare day I miss it.
my pleasure. in my little cornoer of the world, FlashPoints is essential listening. It's the rare day I miss it.
Sorry, the ??? just pops up now and I don't think about it.
I guess I don't mean that people want to stay children. Maybe that they want a better childhood. Carefree in the sense that children should not worry about the things that children in New Orleans' worried about during the Hurricane. I vollunteered there a few months ago. It was horrific. People are still sleeping in their cars with no access to clean water.
Hense internal colonialism--communities of color in the U.S. are treated in much the same way as '3rd world' countries and communites within those countries are internal colonies of those countries. It helps me contextualize things a little better, especially what is happening in Oaxaca. When the New Orleans' Black Panther Party tried to (peacefully) resist in the '70s, police surrounded their headquarters. A few cops made their way in and, dressed in disguise (as priests!), shot up their office.
I think about these few moments as the calm before the storm in Oaxaca before the strong arm of the gov't does something awful. It makes me wish I was a praying woman and makes me feel powerless.
But it also makes me think a little harder about the disourse surrounding resistance and identity politics. You are right, everyone has their own answers to these questions. I think the task is to find some kind of common ground so we all can work together.
Sorry, the ??? just pops up now and I don't think about it.
I guess I don't mean that people want to stay children. Maybe that they want a better childhood. Carefree in the sense that children should not worry about the things that children in New Orleans' worried about during the Hurricane. I vollunteered there a few months ago. It was horrific. People are still sleeping in their cars with no access to clean water.
Hense internal colonialism--communities of color in the U.S. are treated in much the same way as '3rd world' countries and communites within those countries are internal colonies of those countries. It helps me contextualize things a little better, especially what is happening in Oaxaca. When the New Orleans' Black Panther Party tried to (peacefully) resist in the '70s, police surrounded their headquarters. A few cops made their way in and, dressed in disguise (as priests!), shot up their office.
I think about these few moments as the calm before the storm in Oaxaca before the strong arm of the gov't does something awful. It makes me wish I was a praying woman and makes me feel powerless.
But it also makes me think a little harder about the disourse surrounding resistance and identity politics. You are right, everyone has their own answers to these questions. I think the task is to find some kind of common ground so we all can work together.
Thanks, Luisa. It's hard to have a conversation with a few punctuation marks that denote the very absence of a known thing. 
I know what you mean with the auto-form thing. It just shows the last thing you typed.
Sorry to be so choosy about my words ("children" "carefree"), but as you see, it really makes a conversation easier to get your fingers into when you (I) know what the other person is saying, the images they see, the reality as they know it. Because we do all have our own ideas, I think, of what we mean with each symbol we use. And as you point out at the end, it's important to find the overlap; the common ground.
I completely understand and celebrate the idea of your film. And I'm sorry I seemed to brush over it. Or that I did. It is a good idea. I think any film that discusses the oppression and unconscious harm done to any people is a good idea. And your idea in particular is one that I can make sense of, and appreciate.
It does seem like a storm is going to take Oaxaca, no? It makes me fear for those people. I know they will be hurt if they don't stand down. And I know they won't stand down. But man, does it make my chest swell with pride and admiration to hear of their march to Mexico city. 4,000 of them. 300 miles, marching. I was listening to internet radio, there's a link in this comment thread, I think.
Thanks for your comments.
Thanks, Luisa. It's hard to have a conversation with a few punctuation marks that denote the very absence of a known thing. I know what you mean with the auto-form thing. It just shows the last thing you typed.
Sorry to be so choosy about my words ("children" "carefree"), but as you see, it really makes a conversation easier to get your fingers into when you (I) know what the other person is saying, the images they see, the reality as they know it. Because we do all have our own ideas, I think, of what we mean with each symbol we use. And as you point out at the end, it's important to find the overlap; the common ground.
I completely understand and celebrate the idea of your film. And I'm sorry I seemed to brush over it. Or that I did. It is a good idea. I think any film that discusses the oppression and unconscious harm done to any people is a good idea. And your idea in particular is one that I can make sense of, and appreciate.
It does seem like a storm is going to take Oaxaca, no? It makes me fear for those people. I know they will be hurt if they don't stand down. And I know they won't stand down. But man, does it make my chest swell with pride and admiration to hear of their march to Mexico city. 4,000 of them. 300 miles, marching. I was listening to internet radio, there's a link in this comment thread, I think.
Thanks for your comments.
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