Wow, Sarah. What an opportunity! I'm so glad you were able to be a light. Very cool!
Sarah, I am confident that God will use your words (and the words He gave you) to touch lives. Well done!
Wow! Sarah! What an opportunity. I can't imagine the pressure you were under, spiritual or otherwise. You did good!
Candice Speare
Sarah, praying God will use you in this situation. Must have felt completely surreal...and so glad you're husband freed you to go on such short notice!
Hi, Sarah,
I wanted to encourage you, first of all, by letting you know I'm a fellow CANer, and when I read about the opportunity God had placed in your hands, I immediately forwarded it on to my writer friends for prayer. What a privilege to partner with you in this.
I also wanted you to know about the "green room." In the days of Shakespearean theater, the actors and actresses literally had to change their clothes and wait for scene changes in the bushes near the stage. Thus the dubbing of "the green room." You may also want to know that dressing "in drag" also comes from Shakespearean times, when young boys played female parts and dressed in women's clothing that dragged across the stage.
I hope we have the opportunity to meet in person some day, Sarah. What an awesome ministry you have!
Blessings,
Shelly Beach
LOVE the new hairstyle, Sarah! I am just thrilled Tyra called such a beautiful person inside and out to provide a witness for Christ. I will be praying that your words have eternal impact for many people.
Hugs, Cyndy
loved the pictures! What a great opportunity. May Jesus shine through you even after the edits....
Wow, Sarah, what an awesome story! I'm so glad you were able to go and present the truth in the midst of so much darkness. I'm sure God was giving you the words to say. God bless you.
Melanie, a fellow ACFW'er
Sarah, your story is amazing. I am SURE the Lord used you to touch people throughout your amazing day - and He'll continue to do so as that show airs.
And you looked incredible!
Wow, this is so awesome! God really does amazing things...and even on national TV. I'm a fan of Tyra's show so I'll definately try to catch this one.
I surfed into your site from some other Christian blog, I can't remember which one...but I'm sure glad I did. You have a really cool design going on and your content adds to the beauty.
Please check out my blog...and keep up the good work!
I can't wait to hear about the future ramifications from your brave appearance on His behalf, Sarah. No doubt He used you to reach someone who will see the show, and that someone doesn't even know it yet. Lovely. Please be sure to notify the ACFW loop when you get the air date, okay?
Wow! What a neat story. Thanks for sharing. I'm so glad that you were able to share your faith in such a public way. Great job!
Isn't it interesting that they needed so many guests for the dark side, but only one little light for Christ. I have no doubt that your light was shining like stars in the universe. Way to go!
A fellow ACFWer
Sarah, thanks for sharing this with us. You were on my mind all the time you were gone. I don't watch that show, but I will when you tell us that it is airing.
Thanks for sharing with us! 
I pray your segment SHINES.
I woke up at 3 a.m. and prayed for you at least 40 minutes Thursday night. What an experience! To God be the glory! What an amazing story. I'm so proud of you, Sarah, Princess! Praying protection for you and your family throughout this experience.
Vicki said it all - what a TREMENDOUS light you are shining in the darkness of the world. Thank you for sharing your story - can't wait to see the show. We're all so proud of you. May God pour His abundant blessings on you and your family.
Incredible! I'll be praying that God will be glorified and proclaimed through your words as they air on the show.
Wow, wow, wow! What an amazing experience! I hope I can catch the airing when it's on.
What an amazing experience...I pray that the editing glorifies God...what a testimony!
Wow. That is great.
I am bummed though, I don't think I get the Tyra Banks show. I'll have to check. (we don't have cable or satellite)
Um, did I sign a release on these photos? 
This is great. You're quite brave to get in front of cameras and the nation. I hope the part where you get to have your say stays in. I'll pray for that.
To God the glory.
And let's remember to pray for Fiona and the other gals. They are trapped by the powers of the air and of the dark, and they need light.
Shalom,
Mir
Hey Miss Sarah,
You have found a new look! Love, love the hair. Beautiful!
What a shock! I couldn't believe it when I started reading your post. Awesome. I read the first half and then looked at the photos. I have to run, but I think I'll come back later again. Your hair looks awesome.
"The Green Room - which is not green and even my Hollywood friends could not explain to me why they call this the green room."
I think the name came from some theater tradition where long ago these "ready rooms" for actors about to go onstage were painted green. For all I know, it might have started with green paint being the cheapest at the time, so all the theaters painted their backstage with the cheapest color.
Sarah, how amazing! You go! The Holy Spirit will take over, even the taped version of the show.
He is victorious.
Rachel
WOW!
Thanks everyone! I so appreciate everyon'es prayers and support!
An update: the show will air on January 29th. It's a CBS show so you'll have to check your local listings...
Wow!
Thanks for all your support and encouragement!
I just found out the show will air on January 29th on CBS!!
SARAH!!!
First of all - love the straight hair! I remember when I tried to use a straightening iron on your hair when we went to LA together - your hair would NOT cooperate with me! I can't imagine how long it took them to get you all straightened out!!!
When Anthony called me with this news, I like ta' fell off my chair. What an amazing opportunity. I was so happy to read that there were some comforting forces at work during the taping - the audience members and Tyra herself. I would have been a NERVOUS WRECK. Cannot wait to see the show. Thank you so much for sharing all the details of your whirlwind trip to L.A. - and on someone else's dime to boot! That's the way to do it, sister
oh my! GOOD FOR YOU!!!! How amazing. And God bless that sweet, sweet woman who mouthed, 'you did great.' i'm sure you did, but that was a sweet blessing to have that lady there at just that moment. Nice one, God!
Your ministry touched millions. You get that, right, Sarah?! How humbling that must be to know that GOd directed them your way for that role. I'm so proud of you!
Hey Sarah! The moment I saw your note on the ACFW loop, I prayed. It was an honor! (Prayed for your husband too, three kids and all, hee!) So, so glad to read about your experiences. I've seen you speak at Mt. H, and you've got a confident way about you. Thanks for stepping up and saying Yes to this for God! Praying that God continues to cover you.
Sarah,
I'm late coming in here to read about your day with Tyra Banks. God is using you, girl!
Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
I'm praying He will use you in more ways than you could know.
Pam Meyers
Sarah i am shocked at your ignorance on fiona she is anything but DEMONIC
Really Ray? Then what do you think she is?
And for the record - I said that she has "serious demonic activity around her". That's actually different than saying she is "demonic".
I just finished watching you on the Tyra Banks show and I'm sure your are going to be getting a lot more comments since the show aired I just have a few questions. First of all I commend you for going on national television and expressing your beliefs and for clearly understanding your beliefs. I was raised Catholic so I understand where your coming from but recently I've had a very strong change in my belief system. I somewhat recognize that beliefs of christianity but I am very open minded to various other types of beliefs, especially with all the scandals that have been uncovered in the past decade about the Roman Catholic Church. So my first question to you is how can you have so much faith in a belief system when the leaders of the faith are so corrupt? Since that point I stopped attending church indefinitely but I still believe in a higher power and that there is a good and bad side but that those places can't be define by a name or maybe even one specific person. And I was wondering how you felt about that?
And my last question is, on the show you stated that you were a solitary witch when you were practicing and that you were glad that you were because you might have been driven deeper into what you might call a "demonic" state or place. My question is, how would that support be different that the support you received from you college roommates who believed in christianity? If they were there supporting you maybe you wouldn't have had such a positive experience with the religion. And maybe if you would have had support practicing witchcraft maybe you would have deciphered the messages you were channeling differently. I just don't really think its fair the way the whole show depicted such a a touchy subject of religion and belief systems. I'm not trying to attack you I am more here to ask you questions and try to get a better understanding. Thanks and I hope to hear from you soon
Oh my goddess Sarah.. I can't believe that a aperson could be soo messed up that will blame their suicide attempts on witchcraft!.. let's be serious!!.. this ain't 1692 Salem!!.. get real!!.. you know as wel as i do that you're so called accident was not caused by witchcraft!.. it was you being a troubled teen who wanted to end the misery in your life.. Fiona hit it right on the spot!, you seemed to get angry onced she basicly called you out on your BS!.. sorry sarah but it is the truth.. i hope that you find the enlightment you need.
Blessed Be!
Goddess Blessings!
xx
Shadow Equinox
sarah i just think you read her energy or as you say activity around her wrong
and as for what fiona said i think that is true...you were probly just a depressed teen...but since you said how you would like to tell the entire story..well then lets hear it... it would be intreasting to read
sarah i just think you read her energy or as you say activity around her wrong
and as for what fiona said i think that is true...you were probly just a depressed teen...but since you said how you would like to tell the entire story..well then lets hear it... it would be intreasting to read
Hey Adrian - thanks for your questions!
>>So my first question to you is how can you have so much faith in a belief system when the leaders of the faith are so corrupt?>>
Because my faith isn't in a system. People mess up, people fail, and people hurt you (it happens to me regularly)- it happens inside and outside of churches. My faith is truly in the person of God, who He is and what He has done and continues to do for me everyday.
>>>>>how would that support be different that the support you received from you college roommates who believed in christianity?>>>
Well, the short answer is that one lead me away from God and the other lead me towards. I always knew there was something more out there, and I, like you, just thought of it as a force/spirit/whatever you want to call it. While I was primarily a solitary practicitioner, I had family support (my parents were fine with my witchcraft but nearly disowned me when I became a Christian) and I felt like I had ample "proof" that I had found a "true path". Witchcraft no matter how much I read or studied, lacks a real relationship with gods/goddesses. God, in the person of Christ, offers us Himself. While people introduced me to Christianity, it was my own study of it that proved it to me, and my own experiences in it that helped me see, beyond a shadow of doubt, that I had finally found the truth I had been searching for.
And Shadow - I can't really say much that you would listen to so I'll leave it at this. I don't blame witchcraft for my suicide attempt, I blame witchcraft for lying to me - about everything. Believing those lies is what led to the attempt.
Ray - I love to share my story but I won't do it here, now, because I'm not out to prove anything. It's something I speak and share about regularly, but writing it would take a book.
Well Sarah.. I'm sorry but i still think the same way. I think is really hypocritical for you to say that witchcraft only feeded you lies, because obviously at that point you didnt think so. i've been a practicing witch for 9 1/2 years and it is anything but lies, and no suicide attempts were made on my part. I have a wonderful relationship with the goddess and my life has been beautiful ever since i found wicca. That is mainly why i think that your story on Tyra today was a complete show on your part, especially when Fiona gave her opinion on your case which i thought was right on point, mainly because i was thinking the exact same thing.Now i'd also like to say that bashing such a beautful human being as Fiona Horne is completely ridiculous of your part, i mean saying that she had " demonic activity " around her only goes to show how messed up in the head you really are sweetie, i mean c;mon let's be serious. Fiona is Like a goddess to me, she is beautiful inside as well as out and i completely respect her as a woman and as a priesttess of positive power as well, and i really hated those idiotic remarks that you made about her. You should'nt never had said such things about her or any other individual just because they have a diferrent belief, and please refrain from blaming the beautfiul spiritual path that Wichcraft is for your own personal and psychological reasons.
Blessed Be!
Goddess Bless
Shadow Equinox
Sarah i have to say though ...we all search for our own answer...and i must say i have never been happier with wicca...idk all i know is whatever makes one happy religion wise or in general should be what that person follows..but you already know that you are a clear example of that and..that is a good thing but.... you dont see us bashing on christianity (and im not tlaking to you on this one im just stating this becasue it is just not right) bashing it on national tv so why do you feel the need to bash witchcraft?...and that is most importantly for tyra i am appaled by her ignorance and her view of what it was... were not bad people we do good things thats why it is BS when it gets singled out and i hated how tyra said i think everoyne in the audiance would agree because you just dont do that to a group of people no matter how small becasue we still make up a big part of the popualtion i just thought it was wrong because it will piss off alot of people tyras ignorance was blunt and in plain view tyra could have atleast done some reaserch on the topic she was clearly unprepared. - Ray
i honestly feel sorry for you.
i feel sorry that you are blaming an obvious mental problem on a religion.
you do realize there are plenty of teens who attempt suicide over christianity's "rules", right? teens who are homosexual and are cast out from their friends and families because "god says it's wrong."
if tyra had asked you how you feel about homosexuals, knowing the majority of her friends are homosexual, would you have stood up to her as well for your "faith"?
i think you need some serious mental help and should've never been allowed on national television. you discriminated against an entire group of people who have the same rights to believe and worship as you do, and you deserve all the verbal backlash you get. yes, you have a right to your opinion, but remember...you hurt a lot of innocent and wonderful people's feelings, including my own and my husband and the majority of my friends, by doing tyra's demeaning and degrading show. i can guarentee you jesus christ would not approve of your actions, since he spoke of love and peace, and all you spoke of was bigotry and hatred. you should be ashamed of yourself.
i sincerely hope you repent on your ignorance and bastardizations of what christ was truly trying to teach humanity.
Hi Sarah,
First I want to say, congratulations on being on the Tyra Banks Show. I have never seen it, but unique opportunities like that aren't to be taken lightly. I would like to say that I think it is wonderful that 'witchcraft' is being given more publicity, however, some of the people they are choosing to use are as deluded as most people nowadays. I have been a 'witch' for 10 years now. I found this path when I was only 13. Before that, I was a Christian who had attended just about every denomination you can imagine. I came from a bad family of faithless morons, and I admit I tried to kill myself, but I didn't blame it on my faith, rather my circumstances. I don't think your faith can make you kill yourself. I dabbled in Satanism afterward, but I was disgusted with it, since I am a very moral and honest person. On the outside, people see a person who donates blood and money, is happily married, dresses normal, is educated, participates in a SAHM mom's group, and has two beautiful children. I am a Proud Pagan, and my life has never been happier. I understand the courage it takes to defend your faith, and I do not want to offend anyone when I say this, but Christians today have lost the original message of Christ and put forth their own agendas. Also, they act like they are targeted in this country. All of the Christian holidays, that used to be Pagan holidays are celebrated and time is given off from work and school, there is nothing open on Sunday, and even our currency says "In God We Trust". I wish we could all just live harmoniously so that my children don't have to grow up and worry about having their most cherished beliefs trampelled on for the sake of what another says is true. It requires faith to think something is true for you, not a book that says so. Books can be faked, you know. I have to work even harder at defending myself since I live in SLC, Utah. May the Supreme Power, by whatever name you know it by, bless you and your family and friends. Good luck in your future endeavours and may you be prosperous.
way to make a fool of yourself.
Angelicque,
Wow, you sound as if you have been really hurt by Christians. I'll pray for you.
Grace
Ugh Grace!..That was Really Uncalled for!.. Why don't you save your prayer's for yourself and especially for sarah, it seems to me that she really needs them.
Blessed Be!
xx
As for Tyra's audience agreeing with your version of the truth... the comments on Tyra's website speak for itself. There are more Pagans, Witches, Wiccans, and Satanists watching than Tyra realizes... and they are pissed. The show was biased from the get go. They chose some fluffy bunny Wiccans (Fiona and her crew) and set them up beside a couple of Non-Wiccans (the alledged Dark Witches). And if you have the knowledge in Paganism, Witchcraft and Wicca as you claim you do, then you would know that one can not possibly compare Wiccans with Non-Wiccans and hold them all to the same standard of the Wiccan Rede. Sorry but not every Pagan is a Wiccan. Not every Pagan is a Witch. Not every Witch is a Wiccan. Not every Witch is a Pagan either. Therefore not ever single Pagan or Witch is going to acknowledge or observe the Wiccan Rede! And to even put in a couple of Satanists up beside the Wiccans and Non-Wiccans and compare them all as to who exactly is good or bad, is utterly ludicrious! As I said, the show and the host's opinion was biased! And to throw an ex-witch turned Christian into the mix solidifies the fact that the show's goal was not to inform but rather to further degrade Pagans, Wiccans, Witches, and Satanists, and pait them all as bad... unless of course they are "Love Light, and Harmony Fluffy Bunny Goddess Loving Hippie Type Wiccans" like Fiona Horne and her crew. You are not doing God's work my dear. Not at all. You are trying to make a name for yourself. You are no better than Fiona Horne promoting her book. You may not be planting friends in the audience like Fiona was, but you "run the circuit" to make a name for yourself.
grace,
actually, my parents and my husband's parents are christians, as are many of my best friends, and they are kind, loving, and non judgemental people...TRUE christians
So very happy to see that they included your website on Tyra's site. Have been praying for God to use you mightly in reaching many for Himself. You are totally awesome.
I must say I was very upset with the show to be quite honest. Any good the show could have done for witches was completely negated by your appearence. I don't think it was at all necessary and I agree with the others here who said you were just a troubled teen looking for a way out and now as an "adult" you use witchcraft as a scapegoat because God forbid you take any responcibility for your own actions.
Lady Valkyrie,
Not Only I am Outraged by what sarah said on the show but i am worse when it comes to YOU!! calling Fiona a " Fluffy " Wiccan!. First of all..Who are YOU!! to say that!? & Second of all it seems to me like your just jelaous cuz Fiona Horne is a great priesttess of possitive power than you will EVER be!. I KNOW! Fiona and she is a great influencial individual for the wiccan comunnity, i advice you that the next time you try to degrade a fellow Wiccan for their fabulous accomplishments, you might wanna try to acknowledge the fact that maybe your just furious cuz you haven't been able to do anything that can raise you to her level of education.
Blessed Be!
xx
I had looked forward to that show and was very disappointed in it and Tyra. Your appearance on the show negated any good that might have come of a show in Witches. The other guests didn't bother me as much as you, because they are different forms of Witches, even the Satanists to a degree. But you....you went on that show and bashed a religion. You didn't speak badly about an experience YOU had, but you blamed it's lies as the reason you tried to kill yourself. You said that Witchcraft lacks a real relationship with Gods/Goddesses. Well, that was YOUR fault. Not the religion's. I am a solitary but I have a real relationship with the God and Goddess. I don't have a spirit guide as you say you did, but if I ever do, I will make sure to know that if something is leading me to kill myself, I need to look inside myself and ask why I am interpreting it's messages in such a way. Also, you said to Shadow Equinox that you were not blaming Witchcraft on your attempt, but rather the lies. What lies? Who told you these lies? Maybe you feel they are lies now that you seem to have found your one truth. But I know that you going on that show and saying what you said made people look at Witchcraft negatively when you know it is not. It is a person who makes something bad, not the religion itself. You should be ashamed at yourself because you are worse than those who speak of a subject without knowledge of it. You have knowledge of Wicca/Witchcraft and still you bash it. Shame on you. I wish you happiness, I really do. I just wish that your search for happiness didn't have to berate and degrade other people's religions in the process.
Blessed Be
wow..Sarah..i try to avoid people such as yourself as much as i can. I am appauled by your ignorance.
Hey Sarah, where'd you go? No time to reply to anyone who thinks differently than you? No time to reply to those who challenge you on your mistakes? No conscience to apologize for bashing a religion that came before your own, that had roots in some of your Christian holidays, and disrespecting anyone who is not a Christian? I agree with Angelicque, as your all accepting "love thy neighbour" God/Jesus would certainly not be pleased with your words and actions. You owe the Pagan community an apology for your ignorance and disgraceful actions. You might want to think about apologizing to your God too for your "sin" of wrath toward others who are not like you. You may want to brush up on what Jesus was really teaching about loving and accepting others. I think you also clearly could benefit from some psychological help that might enlighten you as to why you choose to regurgitate a path of dogma over looking within yourself for your own answers on life.
Shadow Equinobnoxious,
"degrade a fellow Wiccan"... reread my post. I am not a Wiccan. Therefore do not compare me with that overly made up, rock-n-roll has been, poser for nude pictures, turned fluffy bunny "White" witch, Fiona Horne. Her only real goal and accomplishment in life is being a camera whore. In that she does a mighty fine job at. I certainly would never be jealous or envious of Fiona Horne. Such a thought is ludicrious. Maybe you need to raise your standards and try to bring yourself to be more than just a Fiona Horne cheerleader. LOL
I have one more comment for you, though I suppose it's more for other readers here who are NOT obviously brainwashed by the Christian cult of "one truth" (which, my dear, is a lie). Your journal entry called Truth & Lies made me laugh. You do realize that Wicca was around far longer than Christianity? That witchcraft has nothing to do with "Satan's will" or whatever you want to call it. "Satan" is a metaphor, not a real being. "Satan" and Witchcraft have absolutely nothing to do with eachother. Satan is a metaphor used by Christianity in order to invoke fear so that it can have power over it's followers so they will, as most meek hearts do, obey and believe without question. Whatever your bible says against Witchcraft is brainwashing bullshit techniques used to keep you in fear. I believe your Bible is rather misinformed about Jesus' real teachings as well if you are taking this shit seriously. Believing there is a Satan keeps you too afraid to think for yourself. If you ever truly did practice Wicca, you would know it's roots and know better than to try to teach "truths" about it which are ignorant, misinformed information.
As I said, that's about all I will bother saying to you, since trying to talk rationally to someone who is brainwashed by the great hoax that is organized religion is pretty much a useless endeavour.
-K
ps. Your quiz was pretty funny too. Funny how you discourage Kabbalah because it's roots are Jewish, and yet... Jesus was a Jew! Go figure. Your entire relgion was inspired by a Jew. That's some pretty funny logic you've got there on what you would call your God's truth.
-K
Lady Valke ( what ever )
Your Obviously jelaous!
you might wanna think about joining sarah in her insane notion in drgeading other!.. You are just as worse as she is!
No further comment
SE ( Fiona's Cheerleader )=p
Hi Sarah! I just read your post, and I'm curious as to what you thought were the "horrible untrue statements" that were made. (I've not yet seen the show, so I don't know what was really said yet.) I'd just like to know what parts you felt were false.
Thanks!
minerva
K,
The antiquity of Wicca as a religion has been up for debate for quite some time now. There are those who believe that Wicca is merely a revival of an older religion. Others believe it is a collection of practices from different beliefs systems consolidated into one specific Pagan path called Wicca by a man maned Gerald Gardner. While others believe that Gardner just pulled the whole thing out of his arse and it is not a valid religion. I personally believe that it is a collection of practices from different beliefs systems consolidated into one specific Pagan path called Wicca by a man maned Gerald Gardner. While the different practices and different aspects of it does indeed predate Christianity, the Wiccan religion itself does not predate Christianity. In my opinion it goes as far back as the mid-1900's and that's all.
Minerva-
Thanks for the kind way you asked - I really appreciate it.
I'd probably have to re-watch it to be able to quote precisely but in part it was, "there is a little witch inside every woman", the general "God doesn't exist" notion, and the comments that nature is sacred (it comes from God and as such should be respected, but I don't belive it is sacred nor do I think it has any power to draw from.)
Those are the ones that come to mind...
Sarah!
if you don't mind me asking!.. exactly where did you get the "God doesn't exist" ?.. because i have the episode taped and i don't recall any of my fellow witches making that statement!.
xx
Blessed Be!
I don't mean that the statement was made, but that it was implied as a general notion because while witches may choose to honor a god and goddess, this is different than the one I call God, the Biblical version. And of course the satanists reject any notion of God, though I also know that they have a completely different viewpoint than witches.
Lady Valkyrie -
Pardon my mistake, I meant to refer to the Ancient Religion of Witchcraft rather than this modern "Wicca" you speak of.
Ok Sarah
So Since witches honor a god & a goddess, there is no " God Doesn't exist " issue with Us Witches since we DO honor Both aspects of the divine. As you might know already, satanist have nothing to do with witches so even putting us on the same category as them is incredibly insulting.
Thanx for taking the time to answer my question.
xx
Hey there. Didn't see the show. But it seems like you participated in a whole lot of vanity and excess than a Christian ought to be comfortable with.
Dear Sarah,
Not that it's any of my business, but my advice to you is to ignore what the majority seems to have written here. It's a shame that a few people feel you're to blame for the Tyra show when you were only a guest. What a wonderful opportunity for you and I'm glad you took it.
In case anyone is wondering, I am Pagan and Proud of it! I feel it's wonderful that you had the chance to speak about your religion on television and it's most certainly not your fault that the producers of the show "dissed" the other religions. They've been doing this for years and instead of Pagans writing to the producers and supplying them with a list of well respected, well educated Pagans to appear on their shows, they attack the guests.
Good luck to you!
Angelicque makes many excellent points in her post, obviating the need for me to type out much of what I was initially thinking. I would emphasize that clinical depression is a psychological disorder and, as you probably know, people of all religions suffer from it. Sometimes religion is a factor in depression and sometimes it's not, but even when it is a factor (due to the stresses a person might feel from being a part of a religion they no longer believed in, or not being able to live up to the tenets of their belief system, and so on), religion is not going to be the SOLE cause of depression. If you went to a licensed therapist or psychologist and tried to tell them your depression was the result of a "dark" religion and the need for you to go to therapy and/or take antidepressant medication was completely eliminated as soon as you converted to a "light" religion, I don't think your explanation would be accepted at face value. Unfortunately, the road to recovery is usually much longer than that.
I confess I also feel somewhat uncertain as to how much you actually did know about the Craft or how far you advanced as a witch if you hold these beliefs now. The respect for others that is learned by a developed Wiccan ought to extend to not putting down the beliefs of others, and I don't think anyone who had really learned from the Craft would want to go on TV to "educate" people about the inferiority of some "evil" religion or to put down the beliefs held by others. (I know there are some people out there who call themselves Wiccans or white witches or whatever who do take pleasure in putting down other religions, most often Christianity, but I think that people who do such things either are not really Wiccan - they may be some other type of pagan, but not Wiccan - or else they simply don't understand the Rede yet, which would suggest they're not at all very far along their path of spiritual development as a witch. Do what you will, the Rede says, and just as witches enjoy free will, they must allow others that same right to free will to choose their own religion and their own path in life.) Besides, conflating a spirit guide with Satan doesn't seem to reflect a deep understanding of shamanism. Spirit guides come from Native American shamanism, not Celtic paganism, which is the underpinning of Wicca - so that wasn't even Wicca which was causing you to have the bad thoughts. Wouldn't a Wiccan know the difference between Native American paganism and Celtic paganism?
Speaking from personal experiences now, I sympathize with the fact that you had to go through hard times in your life and I'm sorry that such bad things had to happen to you, but I just don't buy your explanation that religion did it. Religion just isn't a psychologically accepted answer for why a person would experience clinical depression. It just sounds a lot more like you were going through a hard time in your life and probably could have used some help. Relig
(cont'd) Religion is a help to depressed people, but there's no substitute for professional treatment. It saves lives.
If anything, if we must draw conclusions about the relative merits of religions based on this unscientific study of circumstantial evidence, I'll throw my own bit of circumstantial evidence out there: I was also a suicidally depressed child/teen, chronically so for almost my entire youth, but I hadn't yet even heard of the Craft during the worst years. I spent some years in therapy, and later, I learned about Wicca and eventually converted. That experience actually coincided with a turning point in my life. It was then that I began to find the strength to put my life back in order and learn for the first time how to live without being depressed, to stop using this disease as a crutch for myself so I wouldn't have to experience life, something I hadn't done in so long that I couldn't even really remember what it was like. So going by my experience, at least, we should be able to "scientifically" conclude that Wicca is a bright and light-sided thing. Before I had it, I wanted to kill myself. Then after I found it, I became happy. See how scientifically we've just proven this based on a sample size of one, just me?
I have absolutely nothing against your being a devout Christian, believe me. If you've found a belief system that brings you happiness, then more power to you. But here's the problem I have with the situation: I would humbly suggest that neither you nor anyone else has the right to denigrate others for doing precisely what you yourself have done - wanting to convert to a religion that brings them peace and happiness and makes it easier for them to navigate through life. Think about it: how do you feel about the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses who ring your doorbell at dinnertime and the Muslim groups whose printing presses churn out free Qurans in the millions in the hopes of distributing them to the needy nonbelievers of the world? Do you like being subjected to the "well-meaning" hail of propaganda generated by others when you already have a religion that works better for you at your current stage of life than any other likely will? I know I don't enjoy that sort of thing, anyway. I'm willing to bet most people don't.
Evangelicals seem to think they're doing others a favor by trying to cram their beliefs down their throats because then they'll be saved from eternal torment. The only problem with this belief is, what if it's wrong? What if this belief about G-d being a wrathful G-d who wants to punish anyone who didn't adhere to a belief system which very conveniently happens to be the one to which Evangelicals adhere turns out not to be true? (Incidentally, the wrathful G-d belief is solely Jewish in origin and seems to be very much at odds with the message of Jesus, but that's an oddity for another post.) Then the Evangelicals will have spent their entire lives putting down other peo
(continued) people's beliefs and making folks upset and angry at them for no reason. I just don't understand it. It seems so... I don't know. Unlike Jesus? Remember that the Gospels were written first and are the books of the New Testament that are most likely to be historically accurate depictions of Jesus's life and philosophy, not stuff like Revelations.
In closing, one more thing I want to say that I was reminded of while reading this thread: I've always found it odd that some Evangelical Christians will tell non-Christians "I'll pray for you" without even asking the person in question if they WANT someone praying on their behalf. If you are indeed a former witch, and not just any witch but a by-the-book Wiccan (or "white witch" as the Tyra show insisted upon calling such people... lol, white witch, that's racist!), then you should be well aware of the fact that for us, doing magick on behalf of anyone who doesn't grant permission is strictly forbidden. I just had a thought that it would be sorta ironic if every time someone condescendingly told a witch "I'll pray for your hopelessly lost soul," the witch responded by saying "And I'll do a spell to convert you to the Craft." Or, better yet: "I'll burn a candle for you in the hopes that you'll become more tolerant." Then if the person gets upset and says they don't want the witch assailing them with this *gasp* darksided stuff without their permission, the witch should kindly but firmly point out that it would be nice if the Evangelical Christians would adhere to saidsame standards of moral behavior.
Anyway, I'm impressed by how much I've managed to ramble here, and perhaps it's best if I stop before my fingers fall off. Blessed be, and I leave in peace.
Kelly -
"They've been doing this for years and instead of Pagans writing to the producers and supplying them with a list of well respected, well educated Pagans to appear on their shows, they attack the guests."
Actually a friend of mine
wrote a very lengthy, thoughtful letter to Tyra supplying her with educated Pagans that should have appeared on the show, and you know what? She got an automated response saying Tyra could not read all her "fan-mail" but would be happy to send an autographed photograph. She also attempted to post this same letter to Tyra's blog, and the post was not approved or published. It is a shame.
Sarah participated in discrimination, and anyone who heard or read her offensive tone has a right to be upset over that.
Oh wow!
I have To Agree with Both EJG & K.
You two have said it all, there is no further discussion in my part =D
Hope you get the point sarah
Blessed be!
xx
I agree with Kelly.
You glorified God, be assured! Christ hand picked you to be His representative and you did beautiful! To God be the Glory!!
While I don't fault you for having the beliefs that you feel work for you I do fault you for blaming a spiritual path/religion for your depression & attempted suicide. I watched the show yesterday and I read your story on CBN. On the show you claimed that witchcraft led you to suicide. But in your story you clearly state:"My father eventually got clean, but our relationship was severely damaged. Things were a mess at home, they were a mess at school, and I became more and more depressed. I wanted out, and I began to believe that the answer was to kill myself. In fact, my “spirit guide” seemed to confirm that this was the very thing I was supposed to do. I desperately wanted things to change, but no matter what I tried, things just got worse. So one night I drove away in my car intending to never come home again. As I was driving on the back roads, waiting for the carbon monoxide leak in my car to do its work, I remember feeling relieved. Perhaps now, I thought, I can finally escape."
The fact that you felt your spirit guide was nudging you along the wrong path doesn't mean that witchcraft was or is to blame for your sink into depression. Your family life at the time from what I read was enough to do it. And just like was said on the show yesterday it does seem that all you needed was people around you to love and care about you until you could do it yourself.
"You are not doing God's work my dear. Not at all. You are trying to make a name for yourself. You are no better than Fiona Horne promoting her book. You may not be planting friends in the audience like Fiona was, but you "run the circuit" to make a name for yourself.
- Lady Valkyrie"
You're right on the button, M'Lady. Blessed Be!!
Look at all the pics she has of herself playing the cute little celebrity. I'm sorry, but I really pity her.
Its funny you speak of demonic warfare and reading Fiona and her energy..isnt that considered witchcraft and divinism? be careful you might get burned at the stake (like us witches did for doing less)by the christian church..lol..Ave Satanas!..D.W.
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This message comes from The Netherlands. The Tyra show has been broadcasted here for some time now, so today I stumbled upon the show about witchcraft. I am a witch and have been for 6 years now. I am 21 by the way. I don't really care what you think about my way of life. I feel sorry for you and what you went through as a teen, that must have been agony. Of course, then, you search for a basis of support, and everyone searches that in a different place. You chose wicca at the time to develop your identity, as did I although my years as a teenager were fun. You seem to be a person easily influenced because you hopped from one 'religion' to another which completely contradict eachother. Therefore, I cannot take your witchcraft practicing very serious. I, however, still want to say to you, and I know some Christians find this hard to hear: There are multiple truths in the world. Everything is energy, everything is the god (and goddess). However way we shape these energies in a way that we can understand them is up to us. We choose how we practice. So did you. We live in a postmodern society (or at least I do here in Europe, I believe America is still a bit 'behind' on that, o how darwin of me) and in that kind of society you have to accept all those different kinds of identities and religions and faiths and way of life that exist. Just because one book states something as truth, does not mean that that is the truth for everyone. I am your proof, for me it is not the truth. Please remember that next time you speak of god and my gods and everyones gods.
Blessed be,
Jorinde
This is such a cool story!
Sara,
First I want to say I am not passing judgement. I am wiccan and I have also been a born again Christain. By the way you spoke about God a lot ,but I didn't hear you mention Jesus. Don't you first have to go through Jesus to get to God? Oh, and who gave you permission to pass judgement on the the others guests.Jesus said to love everyone and not to judge. In my faith we judge no one. Can you say that about your religion. When I was a Christain I was scared to death. Why? Because if I beleaved everything that the other Christains said, I was going to hell anyway.I was afraid to go to sleep.Might dream about you know ,sex. Jesus hung outside with nature and sinners. Do you worship outside or in a big fancy church build my man and not God. Do you go to bars where the sinners are. Do you try to scare people with the treat of hell. Well if you do remember that every person you turn against Jesus, goes against you. I think that is in the bible also. So with all that being said my point is you where never a witch, and I don't beleave you are a true born again Christain either. If you where you wouldn't judge and you wouldn't have used your faith to get on TV. I will send you some healing energy at our next Coven meeting.And my the way A born again Christain led me to my real faith Wicca. See she was a person who jusge the person the cover. Do you do that?
Blessed Be
Nokomas
Sarah,
I think you were very brave to express your faith and share your story with everyone. God's light truly shone through you that day and I'm very sorry that you have to suffer all the hurtful comments some of the people have been leaving.
God Bless
Hello Sarah (Good Morning)
I come to you with Blessings from our Almighty GOD, Jehovah, and His Son, Lord Jesus Christ, Our Savior and Lord who has dominion on Heaven and Earth and the HOLY SPIRIT that connects us to both. I did not see the show, but realize that you have a wonderfl opportunity to receive emails from people who believe in the witches cult WHICH will allow you to intercede with prayer for them to our Father. They probably have had no one to stand in the gap for them and the devil is so busy. Just provide holy scriptures to them, let God's word speak for itself. Please pray with me that Tyra Banks and her in house audience and her TV audience will receive and believe in the full knowledge of our Father and His Son Lord Jesus Christ thru the Holy Spirit and that she will make a stand on her beliefs. She has made a stand with how the media feels about her body, but not about her relationship with the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. I could be mistaken, and could have missed that episode. I know all will not hear him or want to be his child, or his vessel to be used by HIM, but I am hoping and praying for everyone. Please pray with me.
Thank you very much
Intercessory Delphine
So they really called last minute??? I was called this past WED and asked to be on the show. It was some producer saying she worked for the show and was finding out if I was interested. But now it's friday and I haven't heard from them. They could call me on Sunday and say come out??? I wish I knew if they were going to bring me out or just messing with me!
you know god doesnt want you to think some religions are superior to others. So stop saying the stuff they said was "false". people can beleive what they want to be believe. You think you are a good christain but your not if you think you are better than others because we were "all made in the likeness of God". so shut up.
oh my gosh. i can't stand you. you are so stupid. im not even a witch or catholic or anything. I beleive what i want to be believe. I was brought up catholic but it just doesnt make sense. wow your so weird. how can you think you are so right about everything! everyone sees it differently! your way isnt the only right way!
hi my name is tina..
please write to me on my email
tinajoseph92@yahoo.com
i have a question
As a student in anthropology and religious studies I personally felt that the show was misrepresentative of the wiccan belief system , and therefore will not be taken seriously. Shame on you for having taken part in such a circus that does not promote any real thought on the part of the viewers. I'm sure God does not want zombies in his ranks. Promote something other than crass hypocrisy for a change.
Hello, Sarah.
My name is Arianne. You are a beautiful person, inside and out. I'm so grateful that you found a light for your inner darkness. We all have an inner darkness.
I understand the show was a while back, but it's still fresh in the minds of many people.
I'm Pagan. I've always had a Pagan heart, ever since I was little, when I considered myself Christian. I was Wiccan when I was a teenager (the typical convert stage for many young Wiccans turning Pagan) and I was very depressed myself - suicidal at many points.
Wicca didn't help me out of my depression. Nor did many Buddhist philosophies that I studied. But Meditation did - seeing all as one and one as all. That, in essence, my pagan heart led me to. I never had people in my life to influence my religion or my beliefs, only deep thoughts on the nature of reality and my inner callings. I do not believe in Good or Evil - I believe in what IS. It's this nature of reality that is influenced only by the person experiencing it. I love my Gods, as they are in me, around me, and in everything I touch and don't touch.
May you be blessed, Sarah, and may you love yourself just as you do those around you.
Sarah, I clicked on your site after reading your article on the CBN website, and I want to say how wonderful it is that you were invited to appear on Tara's show. After reading some of the responses from people who are involved in witchcraft, I had to write and recommend a book. I wrote this book for a gentleman named Bishop Curtis "Earthquake" Kelley, and the book is called Bound to Lose, Destined to Win. His father trained him in voodoo from the age of five and planned to send him to Haiti to work under the president of the country at that time. If you are reading this and you are involved in witchcraft, it would be great for you to read that book. (It's available on Amazon.) You will learn who our God really is and how much He loves and cares for you. He has a plan for your life, and you will see how true that is when you read Mr. Kelley's story. The enemy of your soul wants you to die lost and be tormented forever, but God wants you to live eternally in a place of greater joy than any human being can imagine. If you, in your heart, are searching for answers, you owe it to yourself to discover the true light; not the darkness that is masquerading as light!
Diana
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