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The difference between patriots and propagandists.
While I do not agree with McCain on most things, he has my respect and I am proud to have met him.

When I first read this, I wanted to have you send it to Hindracker who want's my students to die for his cause while his son sits in college, safe and on his way to the student president of the RNC.

But in a more reflective moment, I suppose I am glad that one more person is not in Iraq making things worse.

Too bad his dad is such a nincompoop. Maybe Jr. will have a revelation of sound mind and turn against this madness. Although I doubt it. God bless his little overprivilaged heart.
Michael

McCain's son may be sent to Iraq
Senator’s son, now a Marine, could be deployed if Bush OKs ‘surge’ plan

By Elizabeth Williamson
The Washington Post
Updated: 11:53 p.m. CT Dec 25, 2006
As the Iraq Study Group issued its long-awaited report on the war, declaring that the United States should not dispatch more troops, Sen. John McCain reacted with his long-held and contrary view: It will take more boots on the ground, or the nation faces "sooner or later, our defeat in Iraq."
Then the Arizona Republican discreetly flew to San Diego, where the next day, Dec. 8, he sat under a hot sun to watch a skinny 18-year-old in military-issue glasses graduate from boot camp and become a Marine. His son Jimmy.
John McCain's public certainty about Iraq masks a more private and potentially wrenching connection. If more troops go there, as McCain hopes they will, his youngest son could be one of them, taking his place in a line of family warriors that is one of the longest in U.S. history.
Sen.-elect James Webb (D-Va.) also has a son in the Marine Corps named Jimmy. On the campaign trail, Webb declined to talk about his son, who is in Iraq, but he wore Jimmy's boots as he called for American forces to come home.
McCain has not drawn any attention to his son and declined to be interviewed for this article.
A leading contender for the GOP presidential nomination, McCain has been one of the few and among the most vocal politicians pressing for more troops in Iraq. "We left Vietnam, it was over, we just had to heal the wounds of war. We leave this place . . . and they'll follow us home," he said on a news show recently. "So there's a great deal more at stake."
A familiar anguish
McCain's own father faced the anguish of sending a son to war. Adm. John McCain Jr., who commanded Pacific forces during the Vietnam War, ordered airstrikes on Hanoi even while his son, a Navy pilot, was imprisoned there after being shot down.
McCain was held captive for more than five years, repeatedly beaten and tortured. On more than one occasion, the North Vietnamese offered to release him as a propaganda move to shame his father. McCain, citing a prisoners' code of conduct requiring that POWs be released in order of capture, refused.
During McCain's imprisonment, his father, while privately collecting every scrap of information about his son that he could, "made an ironclad rule that no one would talk about his son around him," said Torie Clark, who was a staffer for the younger McCain and a Pentagon spokeswoman. "He wanted to make sure he made decisions based on what was right for U.S. forces . . . not what would be good or bad for his son.
"I'm not surprised that the current John McCain separates the private from the public."


Gravatar WildK, typically I go to Asian restaurants to find the best choices for veg food. The Garden Bistro (now Jules, haven't been there since the change) has good options. And if you're less adventurous, your vegetarian friend won't object to Olive Garden unless they're a food snob.


Gravatar Off topic: I have a date who is a vegetarian and want to know a reasonably priced place (it's a 2nd date) that has some good options. I'm not a vegetarian but I'll go with the flow for the meal.


Gravatar None of those were mine.
But there were many who were there.
One was detained.
They actually put themselves at risk instead of just encouraging others to do so.

I know that is sooo annoying to yellow keybonkers.


Gravatar Not only do I encourage people to military service now, I even encouraged them when your fellow was bombing aspirin factories.


Gravatar Well, if you are eligible to serve [healthy heterosexuals under 40] and support the war, Operation Yellow Elephant certainly hopes that you have at least considered volunteering to Support President Bush in Iraq.

If you have already served or are not eligible, you're off the hook, but should still encourage your eligible relatives and friends, your circles of influence, to consider military service.

This would add credibility to your political positions in support of the war.

You do want to support President Bush and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld in winning the Global War on Terrorism, don't you?


Gravatar Hey, Michael, long time no see. Training this girl in the protest last Friday? Class project?


Gravatar I like the yellow in the logo.
Makes it more symbolic.


Gravatar A band assumes we have common interests, nothing wrong with that unless government assumes we should only work for the common good. The common good appeals to authoritarians while common interests appeal to individuals.


Gravatar This is EXACTLY what's wrong with the country.

Everybody has to be the leader of their own band, nobody is willing to subordinate their pet interest and play along to create something bigger, better.

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Gravatar Band of Brothers, hmmmm!


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