The Vilna Machzor is a textbook example of how not to put out a a sefer. It had to be airlifted to America to get here in time for Yom Tov, bringing the retail price up to 30 something for a seriously flawed product.
The likut of rishonim from "Kisvei Yados" never once tells you which manuscript or which Rishon says the quote.[forget the issues with mixing rishonim up as if they all have the same style/approach] but never attributing work to someone is slightly odd. also he never really tells us which manuscripts he used. when he does tell us in the hakdama that he used certain ones it would appear he forgot to put them in like the pirush on Aleinu that he claims to have put in.
The Ramban from MY came out last year.


Gravatar Thanks TK for the comments on the Machzor. Seems like a rush job thus error prone.
As for the Ramban, I figured as it was timely although a year late, better late than never.


Gravatar How far along is Machon Yerushalayim on with the Ramban?


Gravatar Since the editor of the Vilna machzor is a son of Moshe Hirsh (of Neturei Karta infamy), and himself a member of Neturei Karta, it could be that he was too busy preparing for the meeting with the Iranian President, and didn't have enough time to properly finish off his machzor...


Gravatar I read over Yom Tov a jurnal put out by Bobov it has quite interesting material.

Among the articles that stood out to me is an annonomous presentation of a manuscript by Rabbi Shmuel Ahubav, with a presentation of a selected letter in defense of Kabala.

The other article (4th in a series) on the correct time for "alos - ha'hashacar" and what the real mesorah is regarding the exact time for the "alos".


Gravatar The Onkelos on Bereshis came out like 8 months ago.

Vayikra should be out by January!

Siddur Vilna is put out by NK?

A) Where's the proof? B) what are the ramafacations of this discovery?

Maybe a write- up on seforim on sheita? Maybe get R. Brodt?


Gravatar It is common knowledge [by seforim lovers] that the Vilna Siddur is written and published by a son of Moshe Hirsh, and who himself is a member of Neturei Karta. Understandly, he tries to hide this fact.


Gravatar If it's put out by NK does that mean we won't find the tefilos for Yom ho'atzmaot in Siddur Vilna?


Gravatar It means that the tefillah for shalom medinah will be for Palestine...


Gravatar There was a wonderful article in the Hamodia (I think) a few months back about a Talmid Chochom who has devoted many years towards the study of Targum Onkelos.

He is writing, or has written, seforim that cross-reference and analyse why Onkelos uses abc translation for a hebrew word in one place, yet uses xyz translation for the same word elsewhere. Other types of issues he deals with is when Onkelos changes the meaning and why, also very subtle points like what does Onkelos mean when he uses certain words in certain contexts.

Bases on his extensive research, this Rov has found and identified an amazing structure/template to which Onkelos always adheres, which can be used to explain any word Onkelos uses as a translation anywhere. He has discovered a system and methodoloy which are simply breathtaking and with huge ramifications.


Gravatar "a Talmid Chochom who has devoted many years towards the study of Targum Onkelos."

1. A. Berliner
2. Shadal
3. R' Nosson Adler
4. A. E. Silverstone
5. R. Mordechai Levenstein
6. Yaakov Reifmann


Gravatar It was a contemporary figure, and a 'black' one at that. I think also American. I know not which exactly.


Gravatar I may have mentioned this previously,but Yad Harav Herzog is also apparently publishing what I would call companion sefarim to the Encyclopedia Talmudis. IOW,even though the ET has entries on YK, Haggadah and Chanukah, Yad HaRav Hertzog has published separate stand alone volumes on each of these subjects with its ususal thorough treatment of the halachos and minhagim,etc.


Gravatar Ezriel:
Are you referring to Dr. Posen, who lives in tthe Old City of Jerusalem? He was once chareidi, but today is mizrachi, and in fact writes a fascinating article every week about Unkeles in a Mizrachi flyer that is distributed in shuls in Israel.


Gravatar Machon Yerushalayim's Ramban is published with the Ramban-text from Rav Dvir's edition of the Ramban called Beit haYayin, slightly improved. It is an acceptable text, better then Chavel's (whos work I respect very much!).
The only (semi-)scientific text of Ramban al haTorah is published in the Keter Bar-Ilan by a group of excellent people around Prof. Cohen. But till finished it will take another hundred years...

The Tchelet Mordechai was written by R. Mordechai Gimpel Jaffe, who was one of the greatest Gedolim in Lithuania in the 19th century. He was a descendant of the Baal haLevushim, and was Rav in Yehud (near Petach Tikva) for the last 3 years of his life. He passed away about 1890. He was the Rebbe of the "Alter of Kelm", R. Simche Sissel Broide-Ziv, so he might have been the spiritual force behind the Mussar movement and the development of all great Mussar Yeshivot (Chevron, Slobodka, Ponevesh etc. etc.) today, through his talmid.
Tchelet Mordechai was printed once many years ago, but Machon Yerushalayim (Rav Buksbaum) found the original manuscript by the Walk family. Their grandfather was the son-in-law of Rav MG Jaffe, and wrote a most moving spiritual biography of his father-in-law. It is printed in that first volume (Bereshit) of the Machon Yerushalayim Ramban - VERY recommended reading.

The authors of Kur Zahav (not haZahav) and Kesef meZukak (not Muzukkah) were Baalei Batim, Talmide Chachamim, not Rabbanim. They invested a lot in learning Ramban (when there was no Chavel edition yet!) and found some very interesting explanations.

From Kur Zahav (whose author, R. Aryeh Leib Steinhart, lived in Jerusalem at the end of his life) there was an expanded edition of his Perush in manuscript in the library of Mossad haRav Kook (there is even today a library card of this manuscript!). But the Ms. cannot be found! The librarian thinks it might have been stolen - but who would steal such a Ms.?
Does anybody have an idea?

By the way: R. Steinhart got Haskamot on his Peirush from both R. Abraham Isaac Kook and from R. Joseph Zvi Dushinsky, printed next to each other!


Gravatar Sorry, typo, should have read-

Maybe a write- up on seforim on shemita?

Maybe get R. Brodt?


Gravatar >It was a contemporary figure, and a 'black' one at that. I think also American. I know not which exactly.

I think Wolf's point is that the person you mention is reinventing the wheel at best, or possibly ripping off his predecessors, at worst. Of course that's a value judgment not to be reached until reading the work, which may indeed be new, fresh, and important.


Gravatar Anonymous: Dr. Posen's work is unprecedented! Check out the sample sefer that he has published (through Magnes Press) and you will understand what I mean.


Gravatar Can anyone give a hint of what the unprecedented nature of this work is? (Magnes Press books are close to impossible to find in the US)?

I would also add to my list above the series of articles by Meir Hershkowitz in Hadarom , "Lemi Noad Targum Onkelos", with his usual impressive bibliographical knowledge.


Gravatar Wolf: Log on to magnespress.co.il and look for Refoel Binyamin Pozen. Also,there is a good chance Biegeleisen would have his book.


Gravatar In reply to Ezriel the sefer by the American on Onkelos is called M'at Tzori and is printed as 5 booklets. The author Rav Yakov Lev is American and lives in Mekor Boruch in Yerushalayim. He can be reached by calling 02 537 3188. He is readilly available and very willing to discuss Onkelos. It is best to call him after 9.00pm.


Gravatar Thanks for the link. I can see it's a exceedingly well researched book. He very carefully examines and analyses all the previous works on Onkelos (including all I mentioned above and many more)

There is a limited view option. I will see how far I can get with it. I am chiefly curious if he has found a consistent reasoning on why Onkelos gave a non-literal translation on some subject involving Halachos and other times did not (most notably Ayin Tachas Ayin, though acc. to Halevy's very plausible explanation of this, he wouldn't need to.)


Gravatar Joshua Sternbuch-thanks for the info re the Machon Yerushalayim Ramban. It is definitely a major work and one well worth purchasing as each volume becomes available.


Gravatar can someone please post a link to this sefer "M'at Tzori" (how is that spelt in hebrew)


Gravatar Me'at Tzri is more of an exegetical work (as opposed to the systematic exposition in Posen's book - which is actually based on his doctoral dissertation). I was upset that he barely refers to any of his predecessors (besides for a few cursory references to Nesinah La'ger). I only skimmed it but I got the impression that it was more in the nature of a hebrew translation then a complex pirush (but I may be wrong).


Gravatar In reply to Wolf2191 the M'at Tzri does refer extensively to his predecessors and most of his comments are sourced. Secondly it is not just simply Onkelos in English. Personally after having used the sefer extensively I found it very helpful, and a bargin for the price. If you have Otzar Hachochmah then check out Berkovitz's Lechem Vesimloh. The rumor is that Oz Vehodor are working right now on butchering Onkelos.


Gravatar I will be publishing (hopefully very soon) a bibliography on Ramban (Nahmanides), comprising articles, books, dissertations, reviews etc. written on anything connected to Ramban, his times, his works, his Kabbala, his leadership etc.

Please let me know of any RELATIVELY UNKNOWN bibliographic references you might know about this theme, e.g. articles that appeared before RAMBI or which did not appear there, e.g. reviews, notes, dissertations (BA, MA, PhD) etc.
Please include author, title, and full bibliographic references. I will include them in this bibliography, for the benefit of all admirers and researchers of Ramban.

If not too difficult, please mail me these references also:
dr.sternbuch@gmx.ch

Thank you
Joshua Sternbuch


Gravatar Steve, this year the ET put out a Yom Kippur Machzor as well- very nice. They are also issuing volumes in conjuction with Masechtot of Daf Yomi; Ketubot just came out. They also have a volume on electricity and more.

I think the ET is a good way to learn humility: In all likelihood, few if any of us will see it complete.


Gravatar By the way, the introduction to Onkelos in the Gefen Bereishit volume is remarkable. It seems quite likely that Onkelos didn't write Onkelos.


Gravatar >It seems quite likely that Onkelos didn't write Onkelos.

No kidding.


Gravatar This is the question of the delicate relationship between Aquilas and Onkelos (see Silverstones dissertation.)

It partially hinges on this Yerushalmi (Megillah 1,9) בדקו ומצאו שאין התורה יכולה להיתרגם כל צורכה אלא יוונית בורגני אחד בידא להם ארמית מתוך יוונית

It may be that the Onkelos we have is the product of this Arami. The issue is very unclear.


Gravatar I knew all this going in, but it was nice to see it admitted in a "popular" book. Artscroll has lowered my expectations for intellectual honesty in these areas.


Gravatar kovner - it is a delight to see that people actually know chazan posen exists. he has a chazaka on yamim noraim in kby. (he also gives a teachers' workshop of some sort to students).


Gravatar >few if any of us will see [the ET] complete.

Sure, sure. These multi-volume works of original compilation with little hope of profit take forever.

I used the complete works of Christian Huygens for a paper in college (well, 2 or 3 volumes anyway) - that took over 60 years from the first volume to the 22nd, about 1888-1950.

The Encyclopedia of Islam also took a similar period. It still wasn't complete when I was using it in college (20+ years ago). 1954-2005, according to Wikipedia. And there's a lot more Muslims, hence a wider pool of scholars to write articles, than there are of us.


Gravatar thanbo - more muslims doesn't mean more scholars.


Gravatar Torah Shelemah is stuck on Ma'asei, too. I can think of some others.


Gravatar Torah Shelemah is finished, there is just a inheritance dispute over the rights.


Gravatar Good to hear! Trying to remember some other examples now...


Gravatar Anonymous | 10.12.07 - 5:31 am - How could there be a dispute, he passed away while writing somewhere near the end of Bamidbar all subsequent volumes ie. Rus Esther were done by the machon (and are of inferiror quality to R Kashers own work)


Gravatar There is a point to be mentioned in the Devir Ramban He claims to receive a non haskama for a non commentary on the kabalah parts of the ramban From Maram Horav Shach Ztl
As if I recieved a non haskama from the Chasam Sofer for a total non Biur on the Ramban at all.


Gravatar haguize - come on, they're not all wahhabi fundamentalists. just like not all Jews are chassidim.

surely with a larger pool (a billion? instead of our 15 million?) the tiny percentage who become academics will still be a larger group all told.


Gravatar Torah shliemah is completed on sefer Devarim and when I spoke to one of the people involved he told me that money was the issue.


Gravatar At the Encyclopedia Talmudit things have changed lately. The new director is Rav (Dr. Prof.) Avraham Steinberg, the author of the Medical-Halachic Encyclopedia, and a recipient of the prestigious Israel Price for that.
He is a big talmid chacham (and an MD and a Prof. of Jewish Medical Ethics at the Hadassah-Hebrew University Medical School), and he pushes things - no delays. With him we all are hopefully going to see the last volume of the ET.


Gravatar Re: Tchelet Mordechai
A little extra fact - Rav Mordechai Gimpel Jaffe was also Rav Kook's great uncle on his father's side.


Gravatar Re Torah Shleimah, it is fairly well known that Breishis through Vayikra, which were edited under the supervision of R Kasher ZTL were far better and explored more cutting edge issues in Parshanut and Hashkafa than the volumes on Bamidbar. Has anyone seen the volumes on Bamidbar? The ET Machzor, Haggadah and volume on Chanukah are superb, but the ET seems to be moving along at its usual molasses like pace in volumes of the ET.


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