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another example of a lower martyr is someone who thinks the only way to evolve is through service...we now live in a time where much GRACE is being given through various channels and there are ways to progress and uplift our soul-standing that no longer requires the old ways of suffering and service and constant "work" on ourselves...see www.drsha.com and enrol for his spiritaul enlightenment webcast and receive a Divine Order to enlighten your soul..INSTANTLY...yes,I know hard to believe but 100's have rec'd it and have awesome long-term results...a Lower Martyr will instantly fall in to negative ego and say that that is not possible or beneficial for people...those with open 3rd eyes and clear connection and embodiment of their I AM Presence will KNOW the truth of what Master Sha is offering,,,challenging as it may be for those who believe Joshua Stone was the last word on such things...try to remember that things have progressed immensely since Joshua was alive and the current dispensations are HUGE and much needed at this time
rick |
10.08.08 - 3:31 am | #
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Just to be clear the Lower Martyr is of the negative ego....
Shamala |
10.08.08 - 3:41 am | #
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Bert Hellinger did also mention that to give one's lesson back to the originator or to let the sufferer suffer(With love) also strengthens the originator. Read family constellation therapy for more details.
Han Zhi Hao |
10.08.08 - 6:07 am | #
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Different people with different philosophy. Some take on other people karma/illness due to Real compassions and is usually practices by eastern religious teaching such as monks/nuns or masters.
Personally, i think in the aquarian age people need to instantly recognize it is themselves create the reality of what they experiencing....so its best to facilitate them to know (hopefully) what and why they are up to/having what their experiences are.
Victor |
10.08.08 - 9:21 am | #
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Shamala, I agree that taking others karma on ourselves is not good choice for those persons neither for us. I don’t see any purpose in that. If we take others karma, those persons will not learn their lessons and we will be stopped in continuing our service work, for we will then have to deal with sickness or other issues which we took from them on ourselves, and on that way we will loose our energy, time and ability which was maybe reserved for our true service to God and others.
Rick, I don’t agree with many things which you said here but with few of them especially.
’another example of a lower martyr is someone who thinks the only way to evolve is through service’’
God is serving us and Ascended Masters and Angels also, so they are showing us a way how to live our lives on their examples. It is extremely dangerous thing a thinking that serving others is no longer a proper way. From my point of view it is very selfish, and on negative ego way. We should not be parasites.
We are here to realize God on all levels and help others to achieve that also. We are not here to indulge our lower selves, whether it is under ‘spiritual’ umbrella or within other aspects of our life.
’..we now live in a time where much GRACE is being given through various channels and there are ways to progress and uplift our soul-standing that no longer requires the old ways of suffering and service and constant "work" on ourselves...’
I agree that suffering comes from negative ego consciousness and not Christ consciousness, but I don’t agree that any God’s Grace would give us a new ways to progress with no longer service others and with no need for constant work on ourselves. On higher levels when mastery is already integrated as at Ascended Masters, they are focus more on service then their own progress, but because they already reached certain level of mastery and because service is way how a soul evolves. Statement that by enrolling in some mystery school someone’s soul can enlighten instantly is illusion.
It is interesting how negative ego is so strong. Believing that serving others and constant work on ourselves is no longer necessary if we want to spiritually grow is illusion. Rick, save your life and run away from those types of people who are teaching you that.
Joshua already wrote about new type ascension which is occurring on Earth now on great scale, and called it Fantasy Ascension!
Sasha |
10.08.08 - 3:23 pm | #
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once again ,I 'm being misunderstood here...service is a natural part of awakened living....Grace allows us to take great leaps forward in our ability to serve and if we are open for Grace we won't need to "work" so hard to achieve great things
rick |
10.17.08 - 10:04 pm | #
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Rick, from what i can see , you seemed to be very 'right' with your truth, let's not argue who has the best dispensations and know that everyone has their own paths to take and it is only best for one to follow what resonates with their heart.
Nathson |
11.07.08 - 7:53 am | #
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