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So how come Nationalism is acceptable in Scotland, but generally viewed with suspicion in many other places?
Also what sort are we talking about? ‘Civic’ or ‘Ethnic’ or in practice a bit of both?
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04.30.07 - 12:59 pm | #
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Speaking of nationalists, not quite sure what to make of this lot--from their Wikipedia entry (not authoritative I know): SnG has always declared themselves to be Ultra-Nationalists – Ultra-Nationalist in the sense that the Nationalist Revolution will only be starting when a sovereign Scottish Parliament is set up..
Judging by the flags on the last march, the James Connolly Society want Scotland to become part of Eire.
This little Pict says 'no'.
hakmao |
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04.30.07 - 5:40 pm | #
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Hakmao, good find. They have a strong hint of the mystic bunny boiler about them, in their best light.
Phil A |
04.30.07 - 5:59 pm | #
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Some of us have our "nationalism" thrust upon us. Because it is as an Englishman that the British State discriminates against me, my family and my friends. A second-class citizen in a supposed Union of Equals.
The problem for Britain isn't just the growing nationalism in Scotland. It's the fact that so many of my fellow English have finally had enough. And when the English, who are steeped in Unionism like no other part of the British Isles, start walking away from the Union in droves (as they are now), then you know the Union is finished.
This isn't a decision you take lightly. And once that decision is made there's no going back.
NuLabour has destroyed the Union.
And it is that which Historians will note as Blair and Brown's legacy.
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04.30.07 - 6:04 pm | #
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"the English, who are steeped in Unionism like no other part of the British Isles": oh, David, come, come. However, I agree that there's a fair chance that the Blair legacy-from-hell might include the dissolution of the United Kingdom. "Serves us right" for electing the loathsome wee twat.
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04.30.07 - 7:49 pm | #
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I suspect some of the problem is that the great & good have been suppressing British solidarity, duty, pride, etc. for so long that they forgot those sorts of feelings will out somewhere.
No doubt they were hoping we would all become good Europeans.
But hey! There was something lurking underneath (covered in woad?) all along and now it’s sticking it’s head above the parapets on both sides of the boarder….
Law of unintended consequences 1 : Great & Good 0
Phil A |
04.30.07 - 8:33 pm | #
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I know that all of us make typos in comments boxes and they should be politely overlooked but what is this thing that is sticking its head above the parapets on both sides of the boarder?
The poor boarder - in his boarding house asleep between parapets - and awakes to a nightmare vision of a hideous head above him. Like something in a Victorian horror story.
KB Player |
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04.30.07 - 10:56 pm | #
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McConnell, Goldie and Stephen are British Nationalists - by most people's definition.
They support the British Nation - as do BNP.
BNP are sinister and unpleasant.
This does not mean Lib Dems, Conservative, Labour, have anything to do with BNP.
Nor does the SNP have anything to do with SnG.
Just for information!
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05.01.07 - 12:50 am | #
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Hey Nonny Mouse, is it the SNP or SnG who are 'sinister and unpleasant'? Dunno if the SNP are 'sinister', but they are certainly unpleasant.
The nationalists want to exchange one set of exploiters for another--to free themselves from the yoke of competition with their English counterparts. It is the social relations of production which need to be changed.
hakmao |
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05.01.07 - 9:09 am | #
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KBPlayer, Do you think it may be bawdy or possibly bordering on the ridiculous?
Phil A |
05.01.07 - 9:39 am | #
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They support the British Nation
There is no British nation - that's one of the good things about our polity; it's one that isn't based on ethnicity.
Shuggy |
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05.01.07 - 10:41 am | #
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He's a republican socialist not a nationalist. Its not that difficult to understand is it?
Gus |
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05.01.07 - 6:08 pm | #
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Phil A - I'm getting boreder and boreder with this thread.
"There is no British nation - that's one of the good things about our polity; it's one that isn't based on ethnicity."
I agree. You know I paid £170 for British nationality? Can I claim my money back, or at least half of it? I for one think I'm happy being British - that's being part of a state and anyone can do it (yes, easier for white native English speakers than others) - but being Scottish? Canna dae that. It's too narrow, too specific.
KB Player |
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05.01.07 - 8:15 pm | #
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KB - Argh! I'm hit. A veritable expurgated bowdlerising Boarderer.
Phil A |
05.02.07 - 8:22 am | #
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But KB - the SNPs policy is come all ye in terms of nationality. Anyone who is living in Scotland is Scottish in their terms.
That's why you see Asian Scots for Independece but not many for the BNP.
Gus |
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05.02.07 - 11:08 am | #
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Given the preponderence of Scottish or Scottish born MPs in the British Gopvernment, why do the SNP make such a fuss. If they got independance they will still have Scots in charge 
Is it because they would rather be big fish in a smaller pond than never bing more than fry in a bigger pond?
Phil A |
05.04.07 - 8:25 am | #
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