I'm glad Bishop Jackson and Sarah Palin are being realistic. They know that the politically evangelical stance is not popular with the majority of Americans.
Being realistic is fine, and of course the issue is indeed opposed by the evangelicals. Doesn't make it a right stance. At least half of them are probably already on a second ride on the marriage-go-round themselves, hypocrites.
Reminds me when Bill Bennett appeared on the Daily Show and admitted that the debate over gay marriage is over and that the Republican haters have lost (at 2:08 in the video): http://www.thedailyshow.com/vide...ll-bennet-pt.-
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the evangelicals are far too active politically. there are so many poor and homeless all over this nation that are being ignored by the evangelicals, who continue to move themselves and their megachurches far away from the problems. what kind of "christian" is that?
A similar query was bounding though my skull just prior to reading your comment, evan.
I just wonder, in the order of importance, where destructive rage against queers falls in relation to both the growing poverty and suffering in this country and how they stand relative to the mass muder of civilians taking place in areas like Iraq.
I wonder if they even think about matters related to love and charity, to say nothing about proactivity in that regard?
mark, they are so absoloute on their anti-gay stance and their anti-abortion stance. these two issues consume them. there is no room for anything else, including the words and examples of jesus.
"Trust me!" Yeah, right, sure. The moment any preacher of any sort asks you to take anything on "faith," then suspend all belief whatever.
Of course, these conservatives will start to sound tolerant on "civil unions," but that's only to take pressure off the churches to recognize homosexual unions and women's rights. You see, gays don't have to have church weddings and that will be one more excuse to try and united the religions in opposing them--gays are "not really" being discriminated against.
They'll cede turf outside the churches but go into bunker mode in the churches themselves. Meanwhile, "civil unions" will end up in the "separate but equal" blind alley.
Anything less than full civil marriage rights (to which Republican-appointed judges in California have already recognized as the only way to avoid discrimination) is just making these Bible-spouting bastards a concession we don't need to make.
In the meantime, marriage could do with continuing reform, not just homosexuals but for heterosexuals as well. Who really wants a marriage that's easy to get into but a battle-ground or a road to bankruptcy to get out of? Over half these holier-than-thou unions collapse and the outcomes are usually neither easy nor pretty. Straights and gays alike have an interest in an updated and improved civil, secular, legal contract. Let's line up with a few marriage reform-minded straights and forget these half-crazed Gospel gobblers who are only interested in enhancing the power of their caca cults.
Remember the arguments made by anti-abortionists? We'll cede a bit now, but we'll be back and then we'll abolish abortion. Ditto "civil unions." Let them get their amendments and it's civil unions which will be abolished. Who's kidding whom?
You can "suspend disbelief" in a stage presentation, but when it comes to these pious propagandists, it's all belief whatsoever that you suspend.
No matter how much or what kind of legislation is used, gay is not and will not be ok. Get over yourselves and the lies that say gay is anything other than a choice that no-one should make let alone advocate as somthing that is ok.
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