Gravatar Bush's ratings stink. The Democrat Congress however, has even worse approval ratings, 11%, remember?


Gravatar regrettably, i know a number of gay men who are still repeating the repiggie crap about obama, especially that he will turn this nation into a muslim country. these guys are all closet-cases.


Gravatar You're right about dissatisfaction with the congress, altough that is unrelated to Obama. Any dissatiafaction with the Democratic congress(not sure where those figures come from) is directy related to the their not having played their Condstitutional role in standing up to the dictatorial demands of Bush.

There is certainly nothing in the history of the U.S. which has inspired more disgust and overall confusion than the entire Iraq fiasco. While there is in fact a colusion of monstrously greedy and deceptive people behind Bush's actions: people who have stood to make hundreds of billions of dollars in profiteering from this war(e.g. Halburton, Bechtel, Blackwater etc. etc.) :most of his staff: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, they have acted as though they were secondhand players. Bush is after all the person who, stupid as he really is, played the role of the mastermind of this human disaster: from the time that the Congress turned over thier powers to make war to him.
His primary weapon has always been that of inspiring fear in people, even though it was fear of the wrong people, for the wrong reasons. His summons was not new. Americans have pretty supidly bowed to his claims and allowed him to continue this war even though it has long since been proven to be based on concious deception.
The issue became confusing by the time that he was reelected in 2004, because American people took responsability. By that time he had destroyed the oldest cite of western civilization and killed and tortured millions of innocent people The united States has moved from being a beacon of liberty to the worlds bully and torturer.

Since irrational fear which has been fostered and festering in peoples blood for years now, and the reasons for fear have become more pronounced because there are thousands more people who we have given reason to despise the U.S. , the situation is worse. I think that people, as ignorant as they often are begin to see that something is pretty imbalanced about a war that has taken longer and cost more than WW2, and nener improves. The fact is that the real motivation for the war is the profits of war in themselves to the people running it. That may be had to present clearly, without the media.

But It will be hard for McCain to detach from the whole group of neocons. who have run the party and country into this dire situation. While it is just beginning, I don't see how McCain can detach from the Bush league, who have been running the country broke. Hopefully the whole picture becomes clear enough to people .
So much deception has come about and persistes.
This has just started, and hopefully Obama can give his attention to this making things sufficiently clear. It is a rare situation that a exiting president has to be distanced from and that the ongong issue are what are at hand. McCain may just hope to embelish the original lies and situations. & a lot of harm has been done by the Democratic infighting.
We can only


Gravatar I can't believe it!
look at the NYTimes:
The Pentagon is planning to add to our current 30 torture-detention facilities in Afganastan a new HUGE Long term GITMO like prison only 3 times bigger than Guantanamo. Along with this of course we have dozebns of rendition(torture) facilities all over the world; 25 in Iraq. This will have room for 670 prisoners facilitated by Afgan guards. Guantanamo is an embarasment. The Red Cross reported that a section of about 1/3 of the prisoners had been electrocuted so many times that they were basket cases.


Gravatar Also in the Times -good. Ali al-Naimi the Saudi Oil Minister told Bush to take a hike when he asked for more oil to be pumped. Ali said that they were pumping more as of May 10 for their American customers, but not for Bush.


Gravatar Have you heard? Gore Vidal says Obama is better than JFK.


Gravatar Saud Oil flows Mark, it isn't pumped. Saudi's do not know how to use artificial lift systems. Once the natural pressure used to flow their oil is depleted, they will be dependent on outside help to get the oil out of the ground. (PSST) (That's our nasty little secret, or as some people would say, "our ace in the hole"). You see, just because they are uber rich, doesn't mean they are intelligent enought to tie their own shoe laces.

I would also like you to look up (no, I'm not giving you cliff notes) the 38 detainees released from Gitmo who have been killed or recaptured trying to kill US Soldiers in Iraq and innocent women and children of Iraq.

I hope we make 50 new Gitmo type camps, and stop being so willing to capitulate to Islamic terrorist who want to FUCKING KILL YOU simply for not being Muslim.

You can't suck their cock good enough or long enough to make them not want to kill you and every other American or non Muslim.


Gravatar David: I know that a number of people have likened Obama to JFK relative especially to his ability to inspire people in way that no one else has. That's pretty accurate. I see a paralell in his having come from a marginalized group and being young and bright.
Recall that there was a similar suspicion in the electability of someone from Irish Catholic roots, and a Black person. I wasn't old enough to know what was going on with JFK except that my dad was always really fond of him because we were Irish and they had a racial struggle with that here in the midwest. I saw a movie where JFK was even discouraged from visiting the place of his predecessors home. Obama did visit his fathers home in Africa.
Gore Vidal, it seems would be a pretty good commentator about the spirit of that time. Of course the politics have swung far to the right since then, but I think also, like JFK Obama has compassion for the poor, and will be less of a bully and more of a world diplomate.


Gravatar For you Ron: nothing flows up against the force of gravity, in our world.
None of the things that happen in your world happens in ours . Thanks for being a good example of what mad ranting Obama is talking about.


Gravatar Mark, then please explain how lava gets from the earth's core, over the top of some pretty damn high volcanoes, and ends up running down into towns, villages, and over runs homes and land before it finally cools to become rock.

Enjoy your loser, elitist, black (by half) supremacist, candidate. Even the sorry, republican, democrat in disguise, McCain will beat Obama.

All but the most far-left democrats will vote for McCain over Obama.


Gravatar Be thankful, democrats will win this election, no matter who the winner turns out to be. McCain is a RINO, with true leftist beliefs in his heart.

The absolute best conservatives can hope for is to keep true hard core socialist/Marxist out of the white house. Yes, I do mean Clintoon/Obama.


Gravatar O Mark, are you just being lazy, or are you searching out some factoids to try and rebuff me?

McCain is worthless to ALL conservatives. That's why Bush beat him in the republican primary in 1999. Conservatives will vote for McCain simply to beat the Democrats pick, but we will do our damnest to put conservative house and senate memebers in office to keep his ass under control during his reign in office. It's sad, but it's most important to keep Marxist from running our country, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!


Gravatar i don't even care at this point what obama has to say in response to the biggest idiot alive, gw bush. he has the lamest record and takes credit for the work of other senators on a regular basis. he responds to bush like any good actor would and people fall down at his feet. blah, blah blah. how is he going to win in the fall when the media turns on him? they, after all, are the puppet masters, which has been even further confirmed via the iraq propoganda scandal you never hear about.

and why doesn't mr. anit war talk about blackwater, etc while he is at it? has he taken a position on what he would do about blackwater? do at least half of the country know what blackwater is and what they do over there? will he continue using private contractors over there? will he mention how ridiculous the plan to build resorts and the like in the "green zone"?

its easy to respond to bush. does he really deserve all this credit and continued fanfare over this?

im just sicker and sicker over the coverage of him as this thing goes on. the scrutiny is going to come when its far too late to patch him up.


Gravatar Good grief ,Ron. The U.S. is the only developed nation in the wold that doesn't have any democratic Socialist, or Labor party representation. On the contrary, based on the fact that we are the only militarist/imperialist country in the world today we have been just following a seemless path of the British ,French, Italians etc.

A factoid for you: the British gave independance to their colonies around the world after WW2 when they realized specificaly that they were treating others the way that Hitler aimed to treat them and the rest of the world.

The U.S. has just picked up as the "policemen" of the world, with 831 bases world wide in 150 countries (none of who want us.).

Colate that with the fact that we don't make anything in America, but take it from other people: and you kind of get the picture. We are far too right wing to be nearly Socialist in any way, as countries have found most functional in combination with capitalism: the kind of humaine mixture which allows democracy work.

Simpletons think in black and white; if we value democracy we had better turn some lights on.


Gravatar Mark, I simply love it when pampered, inappropriately guilty, pseudo-intellectual US liberal/socialists proffer non-sensical arguments. The British withdrew from their colonies because they were a financial drain. The only thing you and I will ever agree upon is that the US does need to pull back from militarily supporting countries who are our economic competitors i.e., the EU and Japan.
Your incipid (and factually incorrect) point concerning the lack of a labor/socialist party in America is too funny! The American Democrat party has long ago ceased to have a functional moderate wing...it is now the Socialist Democrat Party you have been yearning for.
BTW, your further lack of insight regarding the new Imperialist (militarily resurgent) Russia and China's plans for world domination is typical. So called "nuanced" thought is no substitute for rational thought. Certainly, your collectivist mewling can offer no substitute for rational thought from those objectivist, individualists among us.
You may have whatever your utopian STATE may decide you deserve...the producers among us will do everything in our power to keep you from confiscating what we have worked for.


Gravatar I will not vote for Obama. He is a nappy-headed homophobe!


Gravatar mjc:
I'm glad to see that you brought up Blackwater. It points to the fact that we have gotten layer uppon layer of lies to the point where most people have no idea as to what is going on. The current half truth is that the war is for Oil. That makes a few greedy people happy. But it is only part of the truth.
The war is a much more deeply layered form of deception. The truth is that with the decline of the dot coms as a form of financial exploitation, it had become clear at the beginning of this century that corporations needed a new source of revenue.Who has the money? The U.S. government. How to get it? Start a war and exploit it for privateering. IRAQ.
Even at the beginning of the war, Bush insiders were starting companies and implementing munitions and ammunition factories. Then instead of putting any of the U.S departments to work restoring Iraq, they hired Bechtel, Halburton, and dozens of other private companies which mainly by fraud have taken over the projecyt of rebuilding: nothing of which has happened. Blackwater is just another private army. The U.S. spends $259-375 billion dollars/yr to fund all of the private contrator companies in the war. Rumsfeld was so heavily invested in these companies that he refused to get rid of all theis stock because he claimed that it would cost too much to account for. Cheny makes millions of dollars every year. The people who leave the administration just go into private war related companies.

If you want explicit documentastion of this scam., read the book "Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klien, a Canadian Journalist. Be ready to get very sick. The point of the war is just to make money on the war.

Why do you think that the war goes on forever much longer than WW2; because the longer it lasts the more money the shysters can make.




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