So what do you think will come of this?
I think nothing. Nothing, because the P-M-S (Palin-McSame(ole)-Shit)Campaign will ignore it, and say, " it just goes to show that we can be agents of diversity, from not punishing children who have sex and commit sins, to hiring gays, who commit sins... we , the Republicans represent TRUE diversity..."
HAHAH Of course, this is bullshit to you and me, but to the Intellectual Degenerates of this country, comprising of apparently close to 50% of the population... its RIGHT ON
As I always say,
Fuck these people.
C3
That depends on the Media, just maybe they will have the balls to pick up this story of do as I say not as I do and run with it. Olbermann should push this and the blow hard Matthews should run with this story. I'd like to think Maddow will pick this story up but I fear she's still playing it safe at MSNBC.
I'd love to think that we have this fairness in the world but we don't. This is just one more reason why McCain is bad for the Country. Let's call them on it people. Grow a pair.
TYPO:
"Over the past month I
’ve been contacted by three different individuals (two of them members of the Log Cabin Republicans) claiming that McCain’s Senate chief of state,"
That's Chief of Staff, right?
Why am I not surprised? Lyndon Johnson's aide was a devoted little slavey and a source of sneers and humor in that White House. Bush picked up all sorts of money from his wealthy gay backers. Reagan and Nancy had a coterie of gay associates. It just goes on and on.
I'm delighted you guys are breaking the story, Mike, but the MSM who always sit on a lot of stories that they could break are likely to trivialize this outrageous piece of hypocrisy. I don't doubt that you've done a fine and fair job of reporting, but a full and fair treatment of it probably won't happen.
You've done a great job, but we have media and publics and politicians who are determined to do nothing.
Surprise me, America, surprise me!
thanks for the outing. perhaps mr. buse might start attending palin's church, where they "pray away the gay."
Oh, WHATEVER! Who cares!
And the crap about the media shying away from anything do to with Sarah Palin? Are you on crack? She and her family have been nothing but slammed since the moment her candidacy was announced. Give me a break! Obama is the one who hasn't been fleshed out in the media, and you know it.
Please, you embarrass yourself.
Who cares!?
How is this hypocrisy? People who think gays shouldn't be allowed to get married aren't allowed to associate with, be friends with, or hire gays & lesbians? That's ridiculous.
Thanks for giving so much effort to the story. More than anything I guess that it saddens me to know that there is truly a solid coterie of cowardly, avaricious, fags who are disinterested in anyting but their own self advancement and finding some bad faith belief that they have integrity. No doubt the fool Buse has found some way to believe that he has principles. A bit like one of the three little pigs going to give the big bad wolf dental hygene.
Maybe McGoo keeps him around to keep his trollop wife away from any stray cock., and shop with; what better use for"gay" republicans.
I can also confirm that Mark Buse is gay. I meet Mark and his partner at the time at a gay bar in Toronto, during Christmas back in 1998. I spent the night with both of them at their hotel in downtown Toronto. I recall Mark telling me that John McCain was going to announce in early 1999 that we was running for president of the US.
I mean.....McCain probably has other gays and lesbians working for him too. Aren't we like....all over the place? Lots of people work for individuals/companies/corporations where they don't approve of EVERYTHING about their employer.
I feel bad that the guy was outed. Regardless of the circumstances, that is his choice, and not ours. If any of the people who lauded the media's choice to out Mark Buse were outed themselves to a national audience, I'm sure that most of you would feel at the very least uncomfortable. For others, it could mean the termination of job contracts (as unfair as that is), harassment, and discrimination for things like housing.
Now's a time for the National Enquirer to do its number. Try getting this on the Globe and Mail, the Guardian, the Times, the BBC and the British scandal sheets. If other English language media pick it up outside the United States, it will be harder to ignore. Don't rely on the MSM to do what they should. And a Spanish/Portuguese language version sent to a few leading Latino papers would go down very well. They could use a good laugh these days.
Now you know why Mexicans refer to their country as "Wonderland" or "the Land of Miracles"--there's no tale out of politics that isn't so bizarre that it's perfectly believable. And, time and again, true.
Mr. Beetstra, it's not THAT interesting. Giuliani living with the two wealthy gays during the 9-11 crisis was at least flavorful. This story is too dull for the MSM.
Oh leave it to the European media to pick up the story. Although the non-Catholic countries on the continent have a tendency to be too lazy and too content with their own progress in gay rights to ever do anything about America, the UK will doubtlessly have something to say about this. I'd be very surprised if not.
I'm from one of those European countries that installed gay rights before most other countries, but I'm currently based in the UK. I must say, reading your piece shocked me terribly. Over here we tend to forget what it's still like in America. It sends chills down my spine to imagine that - if McCain is elected - America is only a small heart attack away from getting a president, whose views on homosexuality and plans for homosexuals only need a Polish concentration camp to match those of Heinrich Himmler.
Fact: John McCain is not anti-gay
Opinion: This story is gay
Fact: John McCain is not anti-gay
Opinion: This story is gay
Fact: Sarah Palin is not anti-gay
Opinion: This story is gay
I, Obama, am also against gay marriage. Does that make me anti-gay?
Lucius D. : That's the same thing so many gays were saying before the last election. "If Bush gets elected..!" Well, he did...and no gays are in concentration camps. It's okay to disapprove or disagree with any party or candidate's views on the gay issue, but don't get over-dramatic. Not much will change for gays, whether McCain or Obama is elected.
MJ: But you must admit, Sarah Palin is a little more extremist than both Bush and McCain - in fact, she's probably more radical than both of them put together.
If McCain/Palin are elected, I think things will change for the worse unfortunately, because the change that we'll see in a few years isn't necessarily something we'll feel during the presidency.
Imagine what the AIDS situation would look like today had Jimmy Carter won the election in 1980, and not Ronald Reagan.
MJ: What makes her an extremist? Is it because she follows God's law or because she follows the Constitution?
You're insane.
So were the Log Cabin people contacting you angry that LCR had endorsed McCain/Palin?
John McCain may be ok with the gays, and so what if Mark Buse is gay, and just wanted to not be open about it. Thats not the issue here.
The issue is that John McCain picked a vice president that is anti-gay, and has been part of a church that "converts" gays with prayer. If I was Mark Buse, I would have quit as soon as i heard that McCain picked someone like that to be his vice-president.
If McCain had known that Mark Buse was gay all along, why would he pick someone like her to run with him???
Sarah Palin is NOT anti-gay. Gays aren't special and require no special treatment. Governor Palin is NOT anti-gay.
OMG if McCain were to avoid hiring/associating with gays, wouldn't THAT be the/a problem?
Buse has a right to choose to not be nude at Folsom Street fair like all the other clones, ya know. It doesn't make him a hypocrite to be private; a sense of privacy used to be called discretion before a bunch of married men co-opted the word to mean "don't tell my wife I'm having an affair with you and half this town". He doesn't exactly work for Hitler.
I always wonder why the gays in this country loathe the country that utterly tolerates us to the point of letting us trample it. If it's so rotten, why don't you all move to Iran or SA where they will collapse a brick wall on you instead of hire you and induct you into their inner circle?
Dan: "I feel bad that the guy was outed. Regardless of the circumstances, that is his choice, and not ours."
I've never understood this attitude. If Mark Buse is against gay marriage and thinks that gays are unfit to adopt children, then why should he feel ashamed when it becomes public knowledge? If he thinks being gay is normal and healthy, then why in the world would he be ashamed of it?
If I am a African-American staffer for David Duke, can I demand that the media keeps that secret? Why did the media reveal that Strom Thurmnod had a black baby if that is such a "private lifestyle" issue?
"Not much will change for gays, whether McCain or Obama is elected"
Don't be so cynical. While Obama has publicly come out against gay marriage, he has publicly supported repealing DADT. We also need him in office to pick the likely replacement of two retiring Supreme Court Justices. That alone, is worth your vote. The LBGT community has and continues to make great strides towards full equality. Without the right balance in the courts, our hard work will be all for not.
As for Mark Buse, he had to know this day would eventually come. It’s not really like he’s being outed. He’s clearly lived a life outside of the closet, even if it comes closer to our current policy for gays in the military. Gay people are not any different than anyone else. We ALL have the right to whore ourselves out in the name of money and power, regardless of the consequences. So, if you lay with dogs, you’re going to get fucked like them. No tears here.
Sarah Palin is NOT anti-gay. She just believes that they embrace sin in the name of Lucifer. She is NOT anti-gay just because she believes their sinful lifestyle makes a home too dangerous in which to raise adopted children. She is NOT anti-gay if she simply believes that the love between same-sex couples is not deserving enough for the sacrament of marriage. She is NOT anti-gay if she supports the rights of businesses and corporations in 47 States to be able to fire a person solely because of their sexual orientation. She is NOT anti-gay if she lovingly opposes anti-bullying regulations in schools because it would promote a sick and perverted lifestyle.
No, no, no - Sarah Palin is NOT anti-gay. She is a hateful, homophobic, murderous witch.
Mofo: I believe you're talking to me, although your tone leaves a lot to be desired.
What makes Sarah Palin extremist is the fact that she believes homosexuality is a mental illness, and even more so that she believes that it is wrong to be gay because the Bible states so.
True, she is following the Constitution but if it weren't for the fact that America has had to endure a homophobic, narrow-minded, culturally isolated, ignorant redneck of a president for eight years, I'm sure the Constitution would be rather more modern, meaning that gay rights would be a reality in America.
In what way does it make sense to you that being against a sexual orientation doesn't constitute 'extremist'? It's like saying that the Ku Klux Klan aren't extremist for wanting to rid America of non-Arian people.
People always say this discussion is too big and difficult. But really, it isn't. It's so very simple.
Lucius D : You better worry more about Europe turning into Eurabia. That's what will REALLY see the end of gays.
GAY REPUBUFFOON = BLACK KKK
LOL, this is great!! Check it out, the story is already on thousands of blogs and news sites around the world:
http://blogsearch.google.com/blo...m=1&sa=N&
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Signorile's always been a self-loathing grandstanding pig. McCain's known Buse's story for years and doesn't give a shit. Spare us these self-annointed gay high priests like "Michelangelo".
anon 5:13 : He's not THAT bad. I think this is a non-story, but some of the stuff Michelangelo does is really good.
It's too bad that the Republicans will probably succeed in retaining the White House. Four more years of war, screwing the middle class, and bailouts for millionaires. Hillary Clinton would have kicked McCain in the balls and smiled while doing it. She's my hero!!!
If McCain knew about Buse, then why can't he answer any of the simple questions?:
Q: Senator, why is your chief of staff unqualified to adopt children?
Q: Senator, why is the love that your chief of staff has for his spouse not deserving of the sanctity of marriage while your own multiple marriages are?
MJ: And something is being done about that. If you look at countries such as Austria, Denmark, Norway, and Switzerland you'll find that there are entire political parties working against the 'open' attitude towards Muslim immigration with, amongst other arguments, the argument that Muslim immigrants in European countries don't adapt well to our laws on gay rights. They are, unfortunately, behind many of the hate crimes against homosexuals that we're currently experiencing.
However, as it often goes, strict rules on immigration go hand-in-hand with certain conformist attitudes towards homosexuality, and many of the political parties that are against the heavy Muslim immigration are also opposed to gay rights.
If an African-American had been David Duke's Chief of Staff, could he have demanded that the media keep his skin color secret? And would the media have complied?
What say you Log Cabin?
Bless the blogosphere. The pages on Google are adding up faster than I can scroll down them. This story would be completely trivial--if McCain and Palin and their (now)supporters had not tried to rally the rightwing reactionary religious. Now that it's spreading, they should consider it the "blowback" they were inviting by trumpeting their homophobia and displaying their hypocritical heinies.
Notice the story about the Manhunt money NOT being returned was just leaked to Politico by the McCain campaing in order to neutralize the Buse story.
It's obvious because Politico immediately editorializes: "Indeed, while the contribution caused a bitter backlash against Crutchley inside the gay political world (and a backlash against that backlash), there was never any indication of a backlash from the Republican side. McCain has never been well suited to the role of culture warrior, and his aides declined at the time to comment on Crutchley or the contribution. Indeed, Crutchley gave one of the cycle's clearer statements of McCain's own approach to divisive social issues. "If we have an experienced, seasoned person defending the country in this dangerous age, we will be able to argue about the gay agenda later," he wrote."
MCCAIN STAFF ARE TRYING TO NEUTRALIZE THIS STORY BY LEAKING TO POLITICO!!!
My, my they work fast.
Minor detail: the Phoenix gay bar in question was actually called The Connection. It closed years ago.
Lucius : Yes, unfortunately people often go with only right-wing beliefs or left-wing beliefs without realizing maybe we should use some ideas from each. Many of the hardcore Right-Wing groups in Europe have beliefs I disagree with, but they ARE correct about dealing with the Muslim immigrants who refuse to accept the ways of Europe.
All this story will do is make more gays feel comfortable about McCain's attitude toward them, and make more conservatives comfortable about gays. (But thank goodness we have a story that makes gays look good to counter another George Michael bathroom incident).
The hypocrisy matters to Americans and it matters in presidential elections. Is a person who says one thing but acts in a contrary way, trustworthy? Will that person be consistent? Will the platform be stable? If you don
’t want gays in the military unless they lie about their life, but you employ one to lead your workforce, what does that really say about you?
It's news, period. If the Pro-life Sarah Palin was discovered to have had an abortion, it would be all over the news. When you live a lie, it SHOULD MATTER TO ALL VOTERS. GREAT JOB MIKE.
Wow. Some of these people are a little slow! John McCain IS anti-gay!! Have you NOT seen his voting record?!?!?! The media is playing everybody like a musical instrument!! I am so tired of everybody saying who cares!! Where have you all been?! Micheal I total see what you mean by the hypocrisy of this statement! Ridiculous! How can he befriend a man he knows is gay and yet firmly act as if his community is second-class. You're right MAYBE john mccain isn't anti-gay, so to speak, BUT can you really support a man who SOMETIMES supports Civil Unions???? He is not only hypocritical about gay rights. It's ridiculous! If this story helps people see the hypocrisy of John McCain AND Sarah Palin I say...THANK YOU MICHEAL!!!!Obviously many of these people have not been following the political trail. Know your facts before you say someone is wrong.
While we're on the politics subject, did any gay groups go to protest with the Jewish groups against the Pres. of Iran today? You'd think there'd be common interests there, since the guy wants to eliminate both Jews and homosexuals.
I'm gay and I support McCain... 8 years of Clinton did nothing for us.
Again, GAY REPUBUFFOONS = BLACK KKK
All I can say is I'm glad Mike is grilling Jerry about not knowing the issues. Talk about a right-wing plant LOL. GO MIKE GO!!!!
(Rolls eyes) Whatever Larry. And : GAY DEMOCRAPS = WHITE NATION OF ISLAM is just as accurate.
UM WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS. I AM A GAY DEMOCRAT DOES THIS MEAN I CAN NEVER BE A CHIEF.
MICKEY GROW UP ALREADY!!
Mike Rogers is once again my hero
Darryl: "I'm gay and I support McCain... 8 years of Clinton did nothing for us."
http://clinton2.nara.gov/WH/Acco...ents/
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Working for Basic Fairness and Against Hate
Fighting For Hate Crimes Legislation. In 1997, the President announced his sponsorship of the Hate Crimes Prevention Act during the historic White House Conference on Hate Crimes. This crucial legislation would strengthen and expand the ability of the Justice Department to prosecute hate crimes by removing needless jurisdictional requirements for existing crimes. And for the first time in history, it would give Federal prosecutors the power to prosecute hate crimes committed because of the victim's sexual orientation, gender or disability.
On April 6, 1999, the President urged Congress to pass this pending legislation and announced a new public-private partnership to focus attention on issues of hate, tolerance and diversity in schools. President Clinton also called on the Departments of Justice and Education to include hate crimes in their annual report card on school safety and to report on hate crimes and bias on college campuses. The President and Vice President continue to push Congress to pass this important legislation and to speak out against hate. As the Vice President said on September 19, 1998: “If we allow even a small number of Americans to harbor and act upon malice and intolerance, we all feel the bitter sting of injustice. Let us send a clear message to those would commit crimes of hate: it is wrong, it is illegal, and we will punish you with the full force of our laws... Crimes of hate against all people -- including gays and lesbians -- should carry a punishment that is swift and severe.”
Additionally, as part of the 1994 Crime Act, President Clinton signed the Hate Crimes Sentencing Enhancement Act, providing for longer sentences where the offense is determined to be a hate crime based on sexual orientation.
Appointed the First –Ever Openly Gay United States Ambassador. On October 6, 1997 and again on January 6, 1999, the President nominated James C. Hormel to be U.S. Ambassador to Luxembourg. Although Mr. Hormel’s qualifications were never in question, and it was generally agreed that his nomination would have easily won a floor vote, a handful of conservative Senators blocked the nomination. Because of this, on June 4, 1999, President Clinton announced the recess appointment of James Hormel. This appointment makes Mr. Hormel the first-ever openly gay United States Ambassador.
Ending Discrimination Against Gays and Lesbians in the Federal Civilian Workforce. President Clinton issued an Executive Order prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation in the Federal civilian workforce. This makes the Federal Government the largest employer in the world (1.8 million civilian employees) with a non-discrimination policy covering sexual orientation. The Federal government recently released a guidebook on this non-discriminati
Wow. Some of these people are a little slow! John McCain IS anti-gay!! Have you NOT seen his voting record?!?!?!
Do some research!
Wow. Some of these people are a little slow! OBAMA IS anti-gay!! Have you NOT seen his voting record?!?!?!
Do some research!
I hope Rachel Maddow covers this on MSNBC.
I'm not anti-gay, I'm pro-get out of my face because I don't care that you're gay.
Seriously, nobody cares that you're gay - do whatever you'd like to do! Just stop trying to make us care.
You aren't oppressed!
"Those senators -- including McCain's good friend and current economic advisor, former Texas Senator Phil Graham -- were feting Mabon in Washington."
That would be Phil Gramm, not Graham.
G-R-A-M-M.
He's not related to Martha, Virginia or Kay.
I can't believe this. I can't find anything. Not ONE gay group went to protest the Pres. of Iran? A country where they HANG gays. I guess protesting along with Jews isn't considered politically-correct these days.
"Log Cabin" = "Log Closet!"
Anyone know why John Aravosis of Americablog is NOT covering this issue? He would normally be all over something like this. I know Aravosis used to be a Republican, so maybe he was friends with Buse. What's up?
Mofo, I'm not anti-het, just let me instantly annul your marriage like McCain and the Republicans are trying to do to gay married couples in California. How in the hell do you call that leaving us alone? You make me sick!
I first got in touch with Aravosis when he was all over the net as it was then, decrying the Mathew Shepard atrocity. He was having a very hard time making it on his site, just working out of a laptop in his apartment. He subsequently tried to make it as a lobbyist and occasionally made an appearance as a guest commentator. Nothing about him then suggested that he was any kind of Republican. If he is, then being poor must have driven him to it.
All of these people are gay. This type of hypocrisy has been going for decades. The ones who scream the loudest do the most dirty...
Good choice.
But the same could be said of all those who support a bigot pandering, pigheaded opponent of same sex marriage like Obama. Or who ignores the fact that he won’t even allow our name to be mentioned in his platform lest it frighten the bigots he’s wooing.
It could be said of anyone in the same party with Barney Frank, who gutted ENDA, or Pelosi and Reid who dumped the Matthew Shepard hate Crimes act in the garbage.
It could also be said of anyone who votes for a party that overwhelmingly voted for DOMA and DADT and refuses to repeal them.
I’m referring to Democrats. The LCR types have no monopoly on hypocrisy and lack of common sense.
And if you need proof just examine their idolatry of Bill Clinton, who not only supported and happily signed DOMA but went on the air to boast about it to get the votes of bigots in 1996. That's the same Clinton who signed DADT which codified military bigotry. He's a hustling opportunist whose only allegiance is to himself.
Obama is a Clinton clone and McCain is a Bush clone.
Vote for the union led and financed Labor Party or vote Socialist or Communist, or write in some one like Abu-Jamal Mumia for president or just stay home (except where things like Prop 8 are on the ballot). But don’t vote for either of the lesser idiots on the ballot.
I'm from another generation, and outing goes against my grain. We all thought that it wasn't our secret to tell, and considered how it would hurt the closet case. But you guys have refined the practice and only go after serious hippocrits that do our community harm. So good, fine, go to it.
Many of the people posting here don't think a whole lot about the issues of HYPOCRISY and why we out people who are or are involved in such.
(1)Sarah Palin is an insane religious extremist; she belongs to organizations that believe in changing people's sexual orientation. This clearly implies that she hates gay people and wants to change them OK
(2) that in holding on to those beliefs she represents McGoo.
(3) If Buze is working for Employers who want to change peoples orientation, he hates gays despite being one and is a hypocrite. The fact that he puts money before his integrity onl;y makes him worse.
(4) above all things hypocrites klike this need to be outed.
YOU FOLKS WHO ARE TO DENSE TO GET THIS POINT SHOULD TAKE A SIMPLE LOGIC CLASS.
It is not and never will be ok to to turn on your own kind. Perhaps like Judas. he should hang himself. I've never read so many phony disgusting posts.
Bill Perdue needs lessons in third grade arithmetic and the winner take all political system. So it's no wonder he can't see the massive differences between Bush and Clinton.
http://www.americablog.com/
That's John Aravosis' blog. His interests lie in exposing the business and lobby links of the McCain bunch--there are enough of them to keep him very busy!
I would hardly call him "Republican" in any sense. Perhaps he's a conservative who has had his sense of ethics profoundly abused--there are a few of them.
This perfectly encapsulates the hypocrisy of the Republicans. I posted this story over at FreeRepublic and watched them melt down for about 30 minutes before banning the discussion. During the frenzy, they kept saying bullshit along the lines of "see, this proves we don't care what they do in their private lives" etc.
OK, that's funny because within an hour several blatantly anti-gay stories appeared on FreeRepublic with the same people totally changing their tune and gleefully demonizing gays. Check the comments out on this story they title: "Biden 'honored' to speak at pro-homosexual gala". These are the same scum that say the GOP is not anti-gay.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/2087998/
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Mark,
I'm not sure if you're talking to me. But I thought I had agreed that he should be outed.
This is a non-story. It is no surprise that a Republican would hire a gay man. Jim Crow southern whites hired blacks all the time. It never dawned on them to treat their employees as fully human, and that attitude prevails today.
What is surprising is that in today's world, any self-respecting person would work for an employer that views him as less than human. Buse must have a strong sense of self-loathing, or love of power or (more probably) both. Scary.
Mark Walsh : That's sick. It's not for you nor me to decide who's turning on his own kind. We could also say it, with variations, about any gay Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, certain Hindus and Buddhists, Jews, Communists, most definitely Democrats or African-American Civil Rights workers or anyone involved with any of those groups or who ate at Cracker Barrell or bought an Eminem cd. One could say they should all hang themselves. (I believe that old loudmouth from Connecticut, Larry Kramer, set gay rights back a million years, but I've never said he should hang himself).
Rather than worry about "third parties" and "voting your conscience," try voting strategically. The Republicans have a tried-and-true strategy of not counting potential Democratic voters in the census and encouraging potential Democratic voters to stay home. A third party vote accomplishes nothing in this system except create consequences which even the third party voters may abhor--that's one of the mathematical possibilities of that sort of strategy. Vote a third party or stay home in general will help the Republican ticket if only by reducing Democratic votes cast.
I grew up in a parliamentary system in which you might have four or five parties. It works well there and that's true of both the British model and the French Constitution. but, it simply doesn't work here.
Since we're not about to rewrite the Constitution, I suggest you join one of the two major parties and work the faction which most represents your interests or the local party most likely to influence the national organization.
Mr. Perdue sounds like he's never been out of the country and never really learned how this one works. He's probably a Republican troll trying to swindle Democrats who are not happy with the party to find a way of making Republicans happy and themselves unhappier still. People have to be a little thick to fall for it, but they do, they do.
kk : Then why did any gay go to the Democrat National Convention, run by a woman who sees them as less than human? Shouldn't that be considered just as.....hard to figure?
I wonder if Levi Johnston is circumcised??
B - Your mother should have had a brick wall collapse on her for spawning you. Your father should have shot his semen in the toilet.
I was raised in the Deep South and have always voted Republican. I consider my self moderate-liberal. When my state was recently able to vote for gay marriage, I, along with like eleven other people in my area, voted for it. It is so disheartening to see gays turn against each other. Trying to out each other and call each other names. Do you actually think John McCain doesn't know Buse is gay? What is the big deal? So he is gay but doesn't agree with you? you can be pro-gay and republican at the same time.
"Mr. Perdue sounds like... He's probably a Republican troll trying to swindle Democrats who are not happy with the party to find a way of making Republicans happy and themselves unhappier still. People have to be a little thick to fall for it, but they do, they do."
Beetstra is a blindsided liberal hack whose partisan allegiance blinds him to the realities of US politics. As another American, who also has no time for fools and apologists for war, bigotry and economic chaos said "there is only one party in the United States, the Property Party...and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. Republicans are a bit stupider, more rigid, more doctrinaire in their laissez-faire capitalism than the Democrats, who are cuter, prettier, a bit more corrupt—until recently... and more willing than the Republicans to make small adjustments when the poor, the black, the anti-imperialists get out of hand. But, essentially, there is no difference between the two parties." Gore Vidal Matters of Fact and of Fiction: Essays 1973–1976
I hope something comes of this in the media, but I have my doubts. The media is protective and puritanical regarding sexual issues. They knew about Edwards and all the rest of is ilk. They have to get arrested like Larry Craig, put on public record before it makes news. Accused of something illegal as having sex with underage pages. Mark Foley resigned from Congress on September 29, 2006, in advance of an ABC News story about sexually explicit emails and instant messenger exchanges with Congressional pages under the age of 18.
I had actually left this discussion but I can't stop thinking about it...
I recall how at school, when I was a child, we watched films such as The Wave followed by Ku Klux Klan documentaries and pre-Michael Moore features on Bible Belt groups, God Hates Fags, and so on, all to illustrate the grotesqueness of - what we were taught were - extremist minority groups in America.
When I saw Sarah Palin speak at the Convention and all her little goons waving their flags, it was exactly like watching those films all over again. What creeps me out is that when I grew up, we knew these things existed in America but we all thought these people were some sort of dinosaurs, almost extinct, that refused to convert to modern times, when in fact you've got half a country voting for them now.
Voting for Sarah Palin, who believes I should be put through mental practices so I can be 'cured' of a sexual orientation that an ancient book has deemed an 'illness'. What kind of country is America when it hasn't even been able to raise its countrymen properly and install certain humane, healthy, charitably, GOOD, sympathetic, sensible views on other people - different people, if you will, whose lifestyles may be different - in its countrymen's attitudes towards society?
Paul: According to the Constitution
All states limit people to one living husband or wife at a time and will not issue marriage licenses to anyone with a living spouse...
Other limitations on individuals include age and close relationship. Limitations that some but not all states prescribe are: the requirements of blood tests, good mental capacity, and being of opposite sex.
Lucius D.:
How about telling the truth?
Palin would be V.P. and unable to force you to take such a test. Even if she wanted to, she can't without the help of Congress. AND, even if she wanted to, and Congress was all for it, people like ME wouldn't allow it to happen. I don't think you're mental, I think you're gay. There's a major difference between the two and I'm normal enough to realize it. HOWEVER, if you expect me to accept that you're gay without a choice, you've got to accept that some choose to live as homosexuals. If there's a choice, I can't protect such rights. AND< If you can't at least agree with my point, you're being dishonest.
Lucius D. : You sound like a smart guy. But I'm sure those documentaries you watched were propaganda made to make the U.S. look bad (especially white Americans).
keep up the good work, michelangelo. there will always be the log cabinette kamikazes on this blog.
screw them.
What kind of school did you go to Lucius D???
P.S. : Lucius: The U.S. education system isn't perfect, but I think it's a lot less slanted. The correct teachers and courses give both sides to every story. (For example : I know Germany imposed the Nazi thing on the world, but I also know Germany is one of the three countries that won more Nobel Prizes in medicine and science than any other. So Germany has saved more lives than it ever killed). Just remember something about American politics : One side will try to portray the Republicans as Right-Wing murdering Nazis, and the other will portray Democrats as Left-Wing murdering Stalinists, when the majority of Americans are independent.
Bill Perdue: correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this written about the time Gore Vidal himself was running for President and had every interest in discounting the differences between the two major parties? What else would he say when all he could do was wean away a few disgrunted Democrats?
Ah...c'mon, I've been down this road before. I know a red herring when I smell one.
I had a long, long exchange with a Naderite who was really a Buchananite who was really a Christian who really, really hated Democrats. It took time to let him reveal himself, but at last the truth came out. I don't have that sort of patience anymore.
And, relative to the American scene, I'd probably be able to pass myself off as a Charles de Gaulle style conservative. But that's there, and this is here.
I look at it this way - gays and lesbians have a huge amount of disposable income. Morso than the hetero parents trying to keep their houses from foreclosing while diapering their offspring's asses at the same time.
Gays have the financial power to boycott businesses and even states (remember the Co. boycott?) crippling them until this anti-gay BS stops.
To all the anti-gay turds on this board, say what you want. Who cares?
We got the money.
wow....I wasn't gonna vote for McCain either way....but shame on those people for their double standards...and the Mabon stuff....wow. I feel hurt....and don't want to...shouldn't feel hurt really...but I'm getting used to it. So much pain because I didn't have a choice in whether I loved men or not...and these people who hate me are gay themselves...and support those who are our enemies. It is beyond my understanding.
MJ, Beck: I went to a pretty normal school in Europe. The documentaries we watched weren't meant as propaganda, and they weren't meant to make us think that America was like that - au contraire, I was taught that these crazy people are minorities. Also, I must stress that I know Sarah Palin doesn't wear a white hood and burn crosses (although I'm sure she'd shout profanities at a gay couple kissing in public any day).
We're taught quite a lot of American history over here and as I can recall, these films were shown to us after we'd been through everything from Columbus to the Founding Fathers, the Emancipation, Dr. King and even The Jackson Five and 1980s' Prince. You must understand, the subjects of the documentaries stood for everything that's against the law in most countries in Europe so in that way, it is different although we have our neo-Nazis and Hell's Angels and what not.
However, at the end of the day half of America was responsible for getting Bush elected, and the same people could easily have him replaced with McCain and Palin. To me, it's just unheard of that a woman like Palin is even allowed to be in politics. If someone said the things she's said or publicly believed in the things she believes in over here, you'd have another French Revolution, only reversed.
Well, golly gee willikers, Michelangelo, Sen. John McCain's a political hypocrite on issues pertaining to sex. I mean, really, who'd have thunk it?
Speaking as both a gay man and committed Democrat, this story about a gay Republican congressional staff member is a complete non-starter.
Newsflash: Mark Buse is not the GOP nominee for president. John McCain is.
To be sure, this sort of nonsense would probably be an issue if Mark Buse had been caught text-messaging gay porn to teenaged congressional pages, or was busted by the police for advertising his wide stance a little too publicly in an airport men's room.
But he wasn't. His only apparent fault here is having a boyfriend who decided to exercise his Andy Warhol-given right to his fifteen minutes.
Please leave Mr. Buse alone. His life is obviously tough enough as it is, without you and your politically correct gay posse rooting into his personal life simply as a means to attack his boss.
Mofo: By all means present me with an example of someone who has CHOSEN to be gay, because with people like Sarah Palin in line to become the second most powerful person in the universe, I strongly doubt that anyone would.
It's such a cliche but lest we forget, being gay is as much of a choice as being black. John Lennon said that 'woman is the n***** of the world'. These days that's very much the case with gays as well, I think.
MJ: "I can't believe this. I can't find anything. Not ONE gay group went to protest the Pres. of Iran?"
Perhaps that's because some of us actually have lives to lead, and Judy / Liza film retrospectives to attend.
By the way, did you go and protest whatsisname, President Afterdinnerjacket?
The "choice" argument is a favorite of the fundies. It has to be a matter of choice for them because the existence of choice allows them to put forward their moral doctrines on the nature of choice. That doctrine condemns homosexuality which, of course, is what they want to do. They make of sexual orientation a power struggle and it's power they want--or hadn't you guessed?
I can't think of any research that meets even minimal scientific standards that's between conducted over the last fifty years that would indicate that homosexuality (outside of adolescent experimentation and exclusively male populations in isolation) reallty represents much of a choice. The extent of homosexuality in the animal kingdom--now thousands of documented cases--indicate that it is largely a normal population variable which may even have served as an evolutionary advantage. Of course, if you're bisexual and willing to suppress part of your sexuality, there might be some element of choice although that, too, smacks of repression.
I can think of nobody who chose to settle into an exclusively homosexual pattern--they discovered that's what they wanted the way everybody discovers what their sexual urges tell them they should be doing. Heterosexuals do not choose to be heterosexual. Why then this miraculous reversal of belief when a sexual identity happens to be homosexual? And why under conditions of social and cultural repression would anybody choose to be homosexual?
Of course, deal with religion and you deal with falsehoods, contradictions, and claims such as successful sexual conversions which have almost always turned out to be sorry failures. How many straights have been turned gay? Another miraculous event for which there's pathetically little credible evidence.
To the religious mind, the world has to be flat, no matter that they head east and end up where they started.
Don: You made me smile. And with that being said, I think any free time that any gay American may have on his/her hands should be spent protesting Sarah Palin. Charity should start from home, and so should activism.
The truth of the matter Beetstra, is that you know next to nothing about US politics. But like a philistine viewing art, you do know what your like.
You like Obama because he's a pet of the Wall Street speculators who've gutted our standing of living. No matter which of them wins, working people lose. Beetstra, if you’re not totally bogged down in the swamp of partisan apologetics check out these sites.
http://www.counterpunch.org/
mart...ns05052008.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/
robe...ts02232008.html
You like Obama because his strategy, like McCain’s, is based on pandering to bigots, and if they elect him they'll own him. James Dobson is no doubt very happy because now he has two parties to play with but the rest of us will lose.
http://www.queerty.com/obama-aga...-ante-20080701/
http://www.queerty.com/tag/dnc/
You like Obama, because he'll enlarge and extend the war to steal oil in the Middle East. McCain will do the same. Both of their plans for ‘phased withdrawal’ and attacks on Pakistan and Iran will increase the mass murder of civilians in the Middle East. Someone like your self who votes for that is despicable.
Your ignorance about US is politics is illustrated by your attempt to blame the Democrats defeats on the Republicans, which according to you can be found lurking under every bed. Your paranoid delusions are similar to those of J. Edgar Hoover, who as soon as he shoehorned himself out of his evening frock, checked under the bed to see if any Communists were waiting to rape his ladylike self. He never got lucky and neither will you. You’re blathering about plots and secret cabals mark you as someone who’s teetering on the edge of rationality.
Actually, Beetstra, the reason the Democrats keep getting clobbered is because they keep stabbing their constituents in the back. DOMA, NAFTA, DADT, ENDA, voting for tax breaks for the rich while cutting welfare, voting for the war, etc., etc., etc. They keep losing because they're Republicans in drag and tens of millions of working people, GLBT folks, minorities, women and immigrants can’t be bothered to vote for them. They’re sick and tired of voting of the lesser bigot, the lesser warmonger, and the lesser lapdog of the rich.
If you haven’t figured that out Beetstra then you are truly ignorant about US politics and culture.
As for Gore Vidal I don’t have a clue if he was running for office then, he's run in a lot of elections. I do know he’s said much the same thing for decades, and been right every time.
Nobody cares who is gay anymore. So why should it matter at all? Geez. Write about something worthwhile.
Buse sounds like one confused hypocrite. The fucking loser.
I think the most poignant part of the article was:
"Does he see his own loyal chief of staff as someone who should be hounded by Christian conservatives, pressured to enter damaging 'conversion' therapy programs, and made a target of violence that is inspired by the hate spewed by agents of intolerance?"
No, Michael, he was hounded by Democrats.
Made a target of ridicule and humiliation by the hate spewed by Democrats.
After all, it just wasn't enough to say he's gay. We had to hear about his sling. His "pig bottom" IM screenname.
Couldn't you have at least just stopped at "he's gay?" if this was just about hypocrisy?
No one likes a mean vindictive bitch better than I do, but geez. Srsly, y'all need to see how this has turned from an exposure of "hypocrisy" to a witch hunt.
Hell, The Religious Right doesn't need to lift a finger anymore. Good job.
The story is starting to appear in the media now - currently being reported in the International Business Times: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/...ay-
ideology.htm
I contend there needs to be a discussion regarding hypocracy looking at what is said compared to what has actually been done. McCain supposedly values his relationship with Buse but disregards him blatently when it comes to promoting himself. McCain as well as others should be forced to face the incongruencies,forced to address the hypocracy. Why did Buse allow himself to be treated with such disregard? My thought is that Buse like so many other gays are used to being second class citizens,suffer from internalized homophobia and therefore they have an identification with the aggressor. In Victor Frankls book "Man's Search For Meaning", Frankl notes his observation in a Nazi concentration camp the group of Jews who identified with the Nazi's and turned on their own. These people were called Kapos.
If we do not hold a mirror up to confront the demons within, dispell the old myths and face the truth, then we as a culture will continue to disolve and we will end up as another defunct civilization noted in the history books. The barbarians that destroy us will be the ones within us.
Excuse me, but if an African-American man had been Jesse Helms Chief of Staff for 20+ years, his community would be supporting him. The African-American community doesn't harsh on those whom simply have a different view on segregation or slavery. Gays need to respect those like Palin who disagree with our lifestyle choice - Leviticus 18:22
Jeff you are confusing Signorile with Mike Rogers, two very different people with very different strategies. There is nothing in Signorile's story about sex. It's a well-sourced analytical piece about the election and nothing private is divulged. Buse is not even closeted.
LOL, "Mark Buse" is still #33 on the most popular Google seaches today. Earlier in the day he was as high as #4 most popular search in the world.
http://www.google.com/trends/hot.../hottrends?
sa=X
Correction - earlier today "Mark Buse" was the #3 most popular Google search on the planet: http://www.mopo.ca/
don't forget, mabon also tried to pass initiatives in washington state, leading to the formation of hands off washington.
This story is important for several reasons. First, the McCain campaign can't bury it. Every day, it must be dealt with. Time looking at this is time when they would like to be doing something else. Second, its another reason to distrust McCain and his Alaskan seal. Third, it puts gay rights on the table, something the Republicans would rather not do this time around. They know they look silly to most they are trying to reach. So, there they go again! Now they will be forced, and you can guarantee they will be forced, to deal with this in some fashion. Finally, they have the video. Now don't these two have a pretty home. How tacky for the guy to leave his lover....for all the world to see. Look and you see this guy actually hiding in his closet....how Republican! You notice how clean and spotless is their home. Democratic queens don't have dust free homes. Honey, we're a mess. These guys were just so sweet. Remember how Richard Nixon always wore a suit and tie while walking down the beach. Would you be surprised if they wore a suit and ties out on Saturday night, wherever they might go. Of course, you know they are Republicans and, my experience, is that they get prissy to go to an event where they always say their room mate just got into town and they look so Sunday morning talk show. They will be out of site for about an hour around 10:30 pm. Then you will find them at the trashiest leather bar in town. You know they have one in Washington, D.C. That's why they all love San Francisco. This upcoming weekend is the Folsom Street Fair. I think they should all get on a plane and come to San Francisco. I'll be waiting. And they thought they knew about lipstick on a pig. Could we all have some fun out here. They would soon learn that in Nancy Pelosi country, every single bridge goes somewhere. For these folk, the Stephen Colbert report might make sense to them. Think about it, Republicans wathing out for last year's lovers in San Francisco for the Folsom Street Fair. After Nancy Pelosi, they have the pig and lipstick thing, then they have to deal with Gavin Newsom and all that gay marriage stuff. For the average gay Republican lobbyist this weekend in San Francisco will be absolutely living hell. I think what would make it just great would be to have their Alaska seal fly down from Anchorage and drop in on the fair. With her luck, she would end up becoming an honorary member of the Sisters of Perpretual Indulgence. And with all that, can you imagine Senator John McCain having to deal with this and run for President of the United States. Isn't America wonderful!!!!
Allen White
San Francisco, California
Wow...Dudes! So much drama on here! My cat(who is straight btw) and I are chuckling (well,I am anyway)over all this "Sarah hates gays, McCain hates gays, Christians hate gays, my grandam hates gays" and blah, blah balh. Well I hate to break it to you guys, but guess who has killed quite a few gay men in the last 10 years?...I guess that would be other gay men who INSIST on BB. Oh yeah, now your going to tell me it's that Hitler Bush because he wont let anybody get "educated" about safe sex. Grow up dudes the real enemy is ourselves...now go fuck yourselves..but please use a condom!
This makes me more comfortable voting for McCain. It's obviously he's fine with gay people. If anything, this gets me even more excited because it's clear McCain is pulling one over on the religious right, just using them to get elected but has no desire or need to implement any of their policies.
why on earth do you think this is helpful?
You'd rather the headlines be all about how tolerant McCain actually is, rather than about the economy and real issues? You'd rather people started equating problematic preachers to how someone will govern?
unbelievable. I'll be sure to thank you if god forbid this story actually does take off.
Remember how the "hypocritical" teen pregnancy story showed everyone how awful repubs are?
Oh except it didn't--it just showed that Palin actually lives up to her 'pro life' code.
Why do you think a gay story will be any different? Repubs have been championing their (faux) diversity since the convention. Now you are doing their work for them and building that case.
This is not the 90s...and you aren't even targeting someone with a voting record--you're targeting one of many known gay McCain supporters. You really want to draw attention to that support, just as the independent social liberals were starting to realize how right-wing the ticket was?
If you are going to raise all these issues it's going to backfire. Please keep the *ACTUAL ISSUES* in the headlines if you want Obama to win.
I am always delighted when I can provoke some troll to fly into a real temper.
Actually, Bill Purdue, Counterpunch can be quite enjoyable reading--as long as your reading isn't restricted to tirades about Obama.
Try this for example. It gives a rather good account of McCain's complete hypocrisy on environmental issues. Those matter to me more than endless tittle-tattle about who gave money on both sides of the fence but none whatever to your third parties.
http://www.counterpunch.org/
stcl...ir09042008.html
He didn't sign up for this, but Buse being a high profile gay person sort of makes him a role model. I kind of wish he were a better one for gay kids. A gay person continuing to work for a policy maker who consistently works against gay people and their families sends a poor message. Can't be good for Buse's psyche either.
I keep thinking to myself, gay Republicans deserve better. I know several that are smart and hard-working. But I wonder why they don't value themselves enough to demand real support from their government/employers or go to work in places that provide it? The corporate world gets it in a more profound way.
Oh well. Not my life to live I guess.
Wow if he treats gays with respect and as equals, he's called a hypocrite. Guess it's best if we arrest all the homos and shun them! Thanks buddy you're doing a great service to gay people. Fucking faggot.
It seems like this isn't a story the gay community would want to make public. If anything it'll only result in the destruction of this guy's career. If McCain does get elected, it might not be such a bad idea to have a high ranking government official that's sympathetic to your cause (even if it's only in secret).
Don't try to hide around the story, John.
Signorile and Rogers coordinated this.
Just read the comment section and you'll see where the massive lie trying to act like Democrats aren't just saying "he's gay" but trying to rub his face into the ground in the most meanspirited and vicious way.
You can't ignore that, John.
Signorile, by linking to Rogers, hosting and promoting Rogers has explicitly endorsed Rogers' demeaning.
I should mention that I pointed out Rogers' own hypocrisy when John Arovosis (of Americablog - and his patron in the outting business - http://bareablog.com/ver2/2008/0...-drug-dealing/)
had their little tiff, which Rogers never denied in comments on my own insignificant blog.
You can't hide when you coordinate with bigots, now can you? Isn't that the lesson we're supposed to learn from this, Michael?
And yes, John Arovosis explained it all to me, personally, in e-mails.
And you used to be such a nice boy Michael - back in the 1990's. What happened? Something really bad? As if I don't know.
Bravo, Signorile.
Gays need to respect those like Palin who disagree with our lifestyle choice - Leviticus 18:22
Right . . . maybe if we just respect them a little more they'll stop trying to make us go away. It's so respectful of them to try to legislate us into second-class citizens.
And while we're in the mood for a nightcap, here's a Larry Sabato article in the BBC.
It's not impossible that we could end up in a tie in the Electoral College. Link that or another Florida 2000 to a trillion dollar deal nobody now trusts and maybe a little clash with Russia in that forgotten hole, Georgia, now so strangely, very strangely, absent from the news, and we could be in a now inconceivable mess.
Time for a trip to the refrigerator. I'm getting too paranoid.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/
7626471.stm
Houston Log Cabin Republican, you're obviously a troll pretending to be gay.
Honestly - lifefestyle "choice"? No way.
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure there's no mention of lifestyle "choices" in Leviticus.
Where are the African-Americans who have "different" views on segretation and slavery? Speak up, pro-slavery black people!!
Sorry Marc,
Have you ever heard of Malcolm X?
You really should read more segregationist black movements.
They're not all pro-slavery, yuck yuck yuck.
But they are segregationists.
I hope Michael remembers how successful I was at shutting down the first outting war.
I'm still up to the task of shutting down this one.
Rogers won't tell you this, but the "most feared man in Washington DC" is still afraid of me.
For every gay person whose life you destroy Swarm Theory will choose a Democrat and do the same.
Sounds like a fun game?
B-O-R-I-N-G !
The most Obama will promise is to end Don't Ask, Don't Tell. What a champion of gay rights!
Hopey Sucks !
For my next OUTING, Daily Kos founder sucks the skin flute.
Don't flatter yourself, Beetstra, that wasn't an example of temper at all. A little contempt for sure but you're not in the same league as those who do real damage to our communities like Obama and McCain. Those are the kind of people I get angry at, not their pawns.
All I did really was to describe as a low information dimbulb who has no concept of the dynamics of US politics and history. I said that your 'strategy' consists of being a liberal apologist for one of the two parties of war, union busting and bigotry. No anger there, just facts. And thanks for the tip about McCain, but I already know all about him: he’s as bad as Obama.
Calmate, Beetstra. If you play you cards right maybe you can get a job at the DNC working for their CoS, an ordained pentecostal bigot named Daughtry, who like Obama and Clinton are pigheaded opponents of same sex marriage.
You see, Beetstra, the bigots over at the DNC badly needs a mouthpiece like you to invent excuses for them. Their former LGBT outreach director is suing them for homophobic hiring and firing practices. And they’ve already offered to settle for $100,000 but he’s going for more, and the money that GLBT folks donate to the Democrats will have to go to defending the bigots who run the DNC and to pay what will likely be a hefty settlement. You could explain how that’s actually good and ask for even more money. Just like clueless wonders like you explain that DOMA and DADT were actually good for us, saving us from a fascist coup d’état, etc.
But reread ‘Brave New World’ before you go to work there to bone up on your Newspeak. You’re not quite up to par.
" Not much will change for gays, whether McCain or Obama is elected."
this one caught my eye... are you serious? 8 years ago I could walk down Broadway holding my boyfriend and my girlfriends hands at the same time and not be at all concerned about my or my loved ones safty. Now There are weekly confrontations with gay non gay males here on this street. The pink triangle is closed and long forgotten and the I have heard of recent talks about reviving the safety patrol. Political climate directly effects the public in one simple way. When we have a president and political system that is working with and for the gay couples both male and female of this country hate crimes go down. When the opposite is true; IE the last 8 years, hate crimes go up. These crimes have one basic fundamental common point, they require a feeling of majority to be propagated.
This is a very important issue, it is just as important as abortion and the state of the economy. 8 years from now I want to feel safe again in my own country both physically, financially and spiritually.
I think what is clear is that any other minority community would welcome such differences of opinion. For example if David Duke's Chief of Staff for 18 years had been an African-American man, I honestly think the press would have honored his request to keep his skin color private.
The African-American community, like most minority groups welcomes differences of opinion with regard to segregation, civil rights, etc. If an African-American had worked tirelessly for David Duke, who's business is that and why would anyone in the press mention a private characteristic like his skin color? That would be outrageous.
Quoted from another person in here.... "Sarah Palin is NOT anti-gay. She just believes that they embrace sin in the name of Lucifer. She is NOT anti-gay just because she believes their sinful lifestyle makes a home too dangerous in which to raise adopted children. She is NOT anti-gay if she simply believes that the love between same-sex couples is not deserving enough for the sacrament of marriage. She is NOT anti-gay if she supports the rights of businesses and corporations in 47 States to be able to fire a person solely because of their sexual orientation. She is NOT anti-gay if she lovingly opposes anti-bullying regulations in schools because it would promote a sick and perverted lifestyle.
No, no, no - Sarah Palin is NOT anti-gay. She is a hateful, homophobic, murderous witch."
I must say just because someone has religious background that absolutely does NOT give them the right to govern or segregate the LBGT community. For fucks sake these are human beings! Anyone who feels as though they have the "right" to murder, hurt, harm or mistreat anyone, including members of the LBGT community is an uneducated chimp. Are we less human to treat others with such harsh treatment and to deprive them of laws we all deserve? Hell no, for christs sake this is America. We are looked at as a forward-thinking country (though looking at how things are going.. ). If you don't like someones race, it makes you a racist. If you don't like someones sex it makes you a sexist. If you don't like someones sexual preference, it makes you a homophobic. I can't believe we live in a world where treating gays and lesbians and transgenders horribly and by popular vote in government no less, is still in progress. Its the 21st century. Quit enforcing others to live by your hate-filled "religious" beliefs. You have no right to tell others how to live. So stop making this country and its LBGT communities appear terrible. Treat others HUMANE. Putting up barriers against peoples/lifestyles/backgrounds/ etc you don't understand makes you stupider than most if not all can imagine. Its time for change! Acceptance! Tolerance! CHANGE!
Those who think McCain will just brush this away like a gnat are mistaken. Because once his new-found "base" of Palin-luvin' idiots right out of Deliverance find out about Buse, they will have a hissy fit. Yes, an old-fashioned hissy fit. Especially if they find out about it on TV.
I love how when Palin works with homophobic religious figures the Lefties shout, "She believes that stuff!" but when Obama works with homophobic religious figures they say, "Uh...he doesn't believe that, he just has to do that for politics, to get votes.." It's a total double standard.
Nowhere in this article is any mention of any attempted communication with, or offers of interviews of, the nominal subject of this piece, Mark Buse. I should think that if you had tried that you would have mentioned it as it is pretty relevant - and I daresay any communication with the purported subject would be pretty newsworthy. If you had worked it I bet you might have gotten a story with more depth and less superfluous invasion of privacy.
The psychology and strategy of openly gay career professionals who work for legislators with bad (bad as it gets as far as McCain goes) public records is fascinating, yet I am no better informed after reading this article than before. Except to find that my friend had some tasteful decorations in his private abode and dated taste in music, though this 'new' video is eight years old...
Some of the details in this story as recounted are in error. I know this because I knew Mark back then. I will not go into which ones but I will cut and paste what I posted in the comments at http://www.blogactive.com/2008/0...f-wins-
roy.html and you will have what I find important about the matter. I know no sex profile stuff is gone into here, though I find a video of his private apartment on youtube just as invasive, I am cross-posting the whole thing because a: it's 5 AM and I am done and b: I typed it right the first time:
I knew Mark back in the 80s when he started interning for McCain. He had family trouble when he was 'outed' to them and McCain knew the whole situation and was supportive and decent as anyone could be - even when he was running for Senate, back in the 80s - when it was definitively NOT FASHIONABLE nor seen as noble for a Republican to do.
McCain did seem to have that honor, then. Mark is a good guy - and loyal perhaps to a fault. There are worse faults. He works for a man who has always stood up for him, and if possible he has also influenced him in a positive way. Of course this is not reflected in McCain's record nor his public behavior, to his eternal shame. The shame belongs to McCain, not to Mark.
Everyone on the Hill and beyond knows Mark is gay. Everyone. For decades. What is surprising is how long it took for someone to complain to eager bloggers about it. I think this says quite a bit about his character too.
I cannot nor will not engage debate nor comment on the ethics of a gay man working for a legislator with such a crap record on LGBT issues. I know I could not do it, and for ME it would be beyond hypocritical. But I know for Mark it is a matter of personal loyalty and honor. And he did it also for the sake of his state of Arizona and for the professionalism of all the staff on the Hill. Though the good (gay) works of diligent staffers for legislative homophobes may be as futile as all the Log Cabiners' wet dreams I can attest to the spirit of service and incredible asbestos skin it must take.
Be that as it may, I also know he went t
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Be that as it may, I also know he went to great lengths to keep his sex profile name(s) and real life name SEPARATE. And his relationship with his partner is honest and open (and yes, open,) and until now as semi-private as anyone who likes to play around can make it. How many of us would want our Manhunt or worse / better profile and pictures published everywhere? Really??
It is odd to contrast the major life experiences I know of in Mark's life, characterized by extreme diligence and hard work, and great loyalty and great betrayal, with the lowly sniping here from people who react to the equivalent of a few second's sound byte, not bothering to get to know the depth of a real person who might, just maybe, be real and have more of a story. ...Until of course you want to peek at someone else's sex profile.
Why are homosexuals such a big threat in the United States? What is wrong with these people? Shouldn't the fact that many families are losing their jobs, and homes be of bigger concern rather than matters of the heart, which is not for the government to intervene? If the United States is convinced that their most urgent business is to oversee who has a right to spend their life with who, then I think you need to reach out to other nations who actually have problems.
thelonewolf says "This is a very important issue… 8 years from now I want to feel safe again in my own country both physically, financially and spiritually" and I hope he can but he'd better consider the politics of the two parties before he votes, or more importantly, puts his energy into either of them instead of helping build the GLBT movement, the antiwar movement or unions.
You have to do one or the other because both parties are run by bigots or people who pander to bigots. What kind of message do you think Biden, Palin, McCain and Obama are sending when they denounce same sex marriage, when they gang up on us to gut ENDA and when they dismiss the hate crimes bill out of hand after it passed both houses or when they voted for DOMA and DADT?
The message is as clear as day, they think we don’t count, that the bigot vote is bigger, and that tells everyone that we’re second class citizens. And the thugs listen closely to that message because it eggs them on and justifies them. Interview after interview with thugs arrested for harassing, beating and murdering GLBT folks documents the effect of religious and political homophobia as a direct and irrefutable adjunct of violence.
In the heat of campaign frenzy it’s easy to project your hopes and ideas onto politicians, but it’s a mistake. Neither Obama nor McCain give a rat’s ass about us. They’re political hustlers, members of the worlds second oldest profession. Depending on them is almost as smart as having a rattler for a pet. What hustlers like that and the courts do pay attention to are massive, militant movements that won’t take no for an answer.
If you want a better nation then join the antiwar movement, fight for an inclusive ENDA and a tough hate crimes bill. If you’re in a union keep pushing it to the left. Join the fight for socialized medicine. Demand that the churches be taxed like any other segment of the entertainment industry. Those are the kind of things that will change America, whereas voting for political prostitutes will just keep it the same.
WillBFair I don’t need any lesson in math or in the “winner take all political system”. That’s because I think the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans and both deserve to lose.
Now tell me about the “massive differences between Bush (daddy or baby boy, it makes no difference) and Clinton”.
Both Bushes and Clinton attacked Iraq to gain control of their oil, and for no other reason. Clinton did it with an embargo of food and medicine that murdered hundreds of thousand of Iraqi Children. The Bush’s did it with a pair on invasions that have killed over a million. Both Clinton and the Bushes justified their genocides with the same lies about WMDs and Iraqi connections to terrorists. Gore would have done exactly what Bush did and attacked Iraq. The only difference is that he’d probably have been a little smarter about it, but maybe not, he was part of the US military genocide against the Vietname
Why isn't this information being devoured by mainstream media? Why do the McCain powers that be insist on condescending and patronizing the American public? Sarah Palin is stupid enough to be dangerous, and John McCain has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. Every possible detail of the lives of McCain, Palin and everyone else involved in their quest to dupe and conquer America should be made public knowledge. The media should delve into all the details of their personal lives fuled by the same fervor with which they conducted the Obama witch hunt. Tit for tat. Nothing they have "discovered" about Barack and Michelle Obama or Joe Biden has been remotely powerful enough to dissuade me from voting for the Obama ticket in this election. It's just so petty how they have gone after the Obama family. Yet, Barack Obama and his family have remained strong and unshaken through it all. However, Sarah Palin's ridiculous lack of experience and completely ludicrous ideas about how the world should be run truly make me question McCain's sanity. Now we find out his Chief of Staff is very much a gay man (don't even get me started on what a sell out this guy is!), and it's just a matter of time before Sarah Palin demands he be removed from his position and/or sent to the Sanctuary for the Straights to convert him to a "real man". What a joke?!!!! Has senile dementia already set in for McCain???
It's easy to speculate that John McCain is on the DL with Mark Buse. I'll bet McCain is the bottom, one angry bottom.
DEATH TO KAPOS!!
"Because once his new-found "base" of Palin-luvin' idiots right out of Deliverance find out about Buse, they will have a hissy fit."
Uh---Nope. Just as it is completely aware of its pregnant teens and sees no contradiction, the religious right is perfectly aware of the gays in its ranks. Hell, that's why they created the 'ex-gay' movement--to *keep* these people as members of their church. You should research that material sometime--it's very seductive and homoerotic, and that's done purposefully. Having gays among them doesn't make them recoil--it makes them think they are doing good work. Just like a pregnant teen keeping the kid is proof that they are people of their word.
Our gay community really needs to grow up and get informed. My friend was just laughing at how pathetically everyone thinks this is a "gotcha" moment-- when it's the other way around!
They need an interior designer. Badly.
What some of you people do not understand...First, what most of the gay population doesnt realize is that people have just as much to right to advocate their position as they do to advocate theirs if it be anti gay or not.
Secondly, well first, mccain in an employment situation like having his chief of staff being gay...or whom ever cannot legally discriminate.. so his views are not relevant. mccain though not agreeing to give say marriage rights to homesexual couples is more of a religious stance since mccain does not support a federal constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.. etc. Mccain is leaving that up to to the states.
Get through your head's not everyone agrees with gay marriage or rights and they have just as much right to voice or have a position either pro or con to it.
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That is so true. Some African-Americans truly believe in the concepts in the book "The Bell Curve". They believe that skin color may reflect a substandard intellect and a propensity towards violence or at least prison time. Also, some Blacks have a strong and sincere faith belief that God cursed the biblical people of Cain (dark skinned) to be slaves and servants for their disobedience.
How dare we question such beliefs of faith and spirituality? They may be right or they may be wrong. Who knows? The African-American community has no right to judge these sincere convictions and questions about their deserving of the right to vote or marry our white women.
That's right rapture. People with rights have the right to say that people without rights shouldn't have those rights. Right.
To the commenter who said I should have asked Buse for an interview, please see the second graph of the piece, where I note thatcalls were not returned, when I could even get through to the McCain office.
That's because, Signorile, they know full well that you don't really care about gay people who work for and endorse politicians who brag about their so-called "antigay" positions; after all, you've fully endorsed them yourself, and you've done nothing against gay and lesbian liberals who support and work for them.
This has nothing to do with gay issues. It has everything to do with your being a party shill and trying to co-opt sexual orientation to do it.
republican=hypocrite
Another reason to vote for McCain, he has an openly gay chief of staff. Funny thing is that Palin the fag hater, actually vetoed legislation that would have stripped gay state workers of domestic partner benefits. What BO done? Made a lot of worhtless promises.
Maybe the drive in california is not about same sex marriage, but about over reaching courts?
Some people argue that there's no difference between the parties, they are both bad, that voting the lesser of evils is consequently meaningless, and therefore--jumping to an unsupported conclusion--we need a third party or at least a "protest vote."
Sometimes they believe it and sometimes they just go on Democratic sites to discourage Democrats from voting, to get them to make a protest vote, knowing full well that that anything that reduces the Democratic count gives the Republicans a relative advantage.
They always have a package of selected scandals, a string of claims and counterclaims, always abuse anyone who doesn't buy their basic premise, and post like fanatics. The trick is to take ten minutes to post what can't be checked or would take ten pages to refute. Whether they are True Believers or "Trolls" is irrelevant. Their purpose is to parasitize other sites and paralyze discussions they find disagreeable. And any discussion that is not their discussion they are sure to find disagreeable.
You'll note that their posts are hardly more than "fill in the blanks" templates for the same debate strategy. A little content analysis shows, for example, that there's no real difference in "talking points" between one poster and the Nader campaigners of eight years ago. Failed before, do it some more, I guess.
A site with a hot topic provides them with what they can't get for themselves--a blog that somebody else built. I suppose established journalists like Signorile are resigned to it. Haloscan should have a "block" function built into it, if only to save time scrolling through the dreck.
Good god! How many fake IDs can Cedric whip up?!
"That's right rapture. People with rights have the right to say that people without rights shouldn't have those rights. Right."
Sorry to say... I'm heterosexual and I have been discriminated more based upon 1) my race (white bread), 2) my sexual orienatation than most people...I live in San Francisco which is a highly populated with as asians, and a minority who is homesexual yet hell they get more freebies than I do....... (unless of course if you are homeless.)...
The law in general is a reflection of religous belief.
For your information the legal agrument I agree with which extends gay rights however I do not agree that marriage was ever intended to suit homosexual couples. For marriage is not only a legal institution it is a religious one as well.
So stop crying... I want my freebies ok? Until that time, guess what, I guess I will just have to pay for stuff.
Rapture
P.S.
The law makes accomodations based upon a certain fact pattern-there is no such thing as EQUALITY.
For example, you are riding a bus and that bus is stuffed the gills. Then the bus stops and a person who is disabled wants on. By law "10/20" people are displaced in that bus so that ONE person can get a ride.
This is an accomodation this is not equality.
Do not say I dont agree or disagree with this..I am merely making the point about the law.
...neener neener.
Rapture
P.S.S.
Stop wanting a free lunch I for one am tired of paying for it.
R.
PLEASE, EVERYONE! ACCEPT MY APOLOGIES! I think many of you know I have had a terrible time with my "illnesses." Sometimes, I take TOO much medicine, and sometimes, like the huge obnoxious fat ugly freak I am, stop taking them entirely! I just posted a very ridiculous post, and now, my shrink has convinced me that it was a mistake, and that I MUST immediately retract it and admit what an idiot I am! Here is what I foolishly said"
"I hope Michael remembers how successful I was at shutting down the first outting war. I'm still up to the task of shutting down this one. Rogers won't tell you this, but the "most feared man in Washington DC" is still afraid of me. For every gay person whose life you destroy Swarm Theory will choose a Democrat and do the same. Sounds like a fun game?"
See what a moron I sounded like? Yes, I know I am a pathetic ghoul looking for at least ONE person to pay attention to me!
So sorry, big kisses, hugs, and more to EVERYONE I might have offended!
Please wish me luck with my therapy!
"republican=hypocrite"
Democrate=FreeLoader?
"rapure?" what is THAT?
"Democrate?" Well, that is something that a DEMO is packed in when it needs to be shipped somewhere!
BIG KISS!
"All states limit people to one living husband or wife at a time and will not issue marriage licenses to anyone with a living spouse...
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I think I should be able to have at least 2 to 3 wives. This of course is ILLEGAl but then again if in an affectionate, caring relationship...etc. etc. (same agrument is used with gay rights)..
"Wow if he treats gays with respect and as equals, he's called a hypocrite."
Golly.. now that is a bad person who does not agree with the lifestyle but respects the person...Does not say much for those who are bashing him.
Rapture
So marriage is religious as well Rapture? If I remember correctly, atheists are allowed to marry as long as they are hetero. Way to go Rupture with your head implanted firmly up your ass again. You should try a dick up there sometime, I have a feeling you'd like it. I mean, that's how you 'stumbled' upon this site, right?
" So marriage is religious as well Rapture? If I remember correctly, atheists are allowed to marry as long as they are hetero. Way to go Rupture with your head implanted firmly up your ass again. You should try a dick up there sometime, I have a feeling you'd like it. I mean, that's how you 'stumbled' upon this site, right?"
I enjoy name calling... Why? because it shows you really have nothing better to say.
Marriage is both a legal institution and a religious one. Marriage in he legal sense came from or was derived from the religious views.
Then again, if Obama is elected and raises taxes on those making 250k or more (which by the way I dont) perhaps those people will decide to lay you off and/or your friends at your company to make up difference-this is what the Corps ALWAYS do because the gov cannot prevent nor outlaw such a practice. Why? because they have duty to the shareholder to turn a profit and you are EXPENDABLE........................................
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Stumble on this site? It was given to me actually for my entertainment..which it has been very entertaining to see the very people yelling and screaming about rights this and rights that who turn around and want to limit the rights of other people to promote their own agenda.
I say look in the mirror...really really hard.
Rapture
P.S.
Im not homophoic... Perhaps do a better job at name calling..I'm sure you can do better. If I were to grade you are getting a F so far.
P.S.S.
Be patriotic in the unemployment line.
Beetstra is a pious little hack, a shill for a right wing opportunist named Barak Obama who, as the campaign progresses, is moving further and further to the right.
Right wing hacks like Beetstra show up from time to time to toss a little dirt or to demand that the left be censored. Sometimes they’re even paid to do that, but if Daughtry is paying Beetstra she’s wasting her money – he’s just not very good at it.
He can’t defend the Democrats record on LGBT rights or Obama’s sanctimonious harping about the sanctity of hetero coupling. He can’t deny the steady trend to the right that Obama’s taken since his nomination was secured. Obama supports FISA which gutted the 4th Amendment, the Peru version of NAFTA and the Paytriot act. Beetstra’s tightlipped regarding Obama’s barbaric opposition to socialized medicine, the fact that Clinton’s chief deregulator is Obama’s key economic advisor or his other anti-worker anti-consumer policies. Beetstra hasn’t a word to say about the genocidal war, begun by Clinton, continued by Bush, and supported wholeheartedly by Biden and the other war Democrats (that’s all of them but one or two). Beetstra’s mum on the subject of Obama’s promises to expand and extend the US oil piracy in the Middle East. Obama even wants to attack a nuclear power, Pakistan, but Cheney may beat him to the punch.
That sort if surrender to ineptitude, that inability to collect facts or analysis characterizes all of Beetstra’s comments. Beetstra can’t argue so he 'dismisses' and calls for hamfisted censorship.
The problem for shills like Beetstra is that Americans are fed up with voting for the lesser bigot, the lesser warmonger, and the lesser Wall Street pet. The next president will be Nixon redux, and I expect that’ll be Obama. (The only thing that can defeat him is McCain’s appeal to racists, a tactic first used by the Clintons in the primaries.)
If Obama wins people will name the new tent cities named Obamavilles instead of Hoovervilles. They'll be chanting “Hey, hey, O BA Ma, how many kids did you kill today?”
It’ll be a real education for the GLBT communities, working people and the antiwar movement. Obama is a right wing hustler who can be counted on to disappoint those hoodwinked into supporting him.
An Obama presidency will be harder to politically dismantle than a McCain presidency, but it’ll be worth it because the effects will be so much more intense and have a marked destabilizing for the reactionary two party system that Beetstra shills for.
YAY!!
One of my stalkers cared enough to show up!
Awesome!
I'm actually grateful I'm a homo. I would have gotten married because years ago because t's the hetero thing to do, then years later want to blow my brains out because I'm married with screaming kids and a wife that now has turned into the fattest cow I have ever seen. LOL. I am aainst marriage period. Get married Rapture and when I pass you in the mall with that beaten look on your face that says this married shit is your life until you die, then I'll laugh.
I don't agree with the left-handed lifestyle, but I'm still tolerant of left-handed people.
So what!! My partner and I are both conservative gays, who won't vote for the socialist left Obama if you paid us. Does the guy do his job well? Apparently, McCain thinks so and that's all that matters. I don't really give a rat's ass what people think of me. It's what I do that matters, not what I am.
Actually, Mr. Perdue, I apologize for misspelling your name. I read your complaints quite closely and they are not without some truth content.
Obama is far, far from flawless. His policies on virtually every issue of "strategic ambiguity" (an Israeli term, by the way) has left me feeling like a Palestinian listening to a "moderate" Israeli--moderate, my ass, all I have to do is roll over and take it. He'll be gentle.
"God's in the mix." So much for his acceptance of the legal equality of homosexuals and other sexual minorities. Some lawyer he is. No wonder he never published a scholarly paper in his own field. If he stated what he believed, he would have been an embarrassment to everyone except those who think that the Constitution is a "Judaeo-Christian" document. For a Harvard liberal, he's closer to Judge Bork. His God only knows whom he'd select as a Supreme Court Justice. Someone to get that evangelical vote he'd like to court?
My preference would be a British Parliamentary system or a Gaullist style Republican form or even a Bundestag, but that's simply not going to happen. Then we'd get the benefits of majority rule decision making and proportional representation.
Of course, I'm for public financing of campaigns. Obama's been the better player so far in a billion dollar fundraising hustle. And my relatives under "socialist" medical policies in other countries would have lost everything they worked a lifetime for under the American system. Obama's system is so set up that before it ever could be carried into practice it would be sabotaged and nibbled away into a whole lot of money for a whole lot of nothing.
No, I'm not happy with Obama, and McCain sickens me and I'm tired voting the lesser of evils and so are a very large number of other Americans. What that says is that we have been reduced the lot of us to being near permanently lower-class. I define lower class has having nothing but poor choices and no power to change the rules which allocate that power.
Lewis Lapham in Harper's nearly two years ago cracked that Bush and his friends could hardly wait to remodel the country in the image of Mexico. Well that's being going on, Democrat and Republican alike, for half a lifetime. But you can't mention "class conflict" in this society because it's not "politically correct" on the Democratic side and it's "socialism" on the Republican. It's as rational as "free market" analytics, but what's rational and what is not has a very irrational kind of distribution in this country.
Do I know where to begin? Dammit, I don't, nor does any other at this point, or if they do, they sure keep their agenda quiet. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but a lot of us are like that. We have this feeling we really have lost our country.
Beetstra, I'm glad to see you backpedaling. It's about time.
I'm not at all angry about your misspelling my name, but calling me a Republican troll is a horse of another color. It's not just that it's not true, but it's as loathsome as me accusing someone of being a Democrat.
"Do I know where to begin? It's easy. You can begin by being active in the antiwar movement, in your union, if you're in one, and in building an independent GLBT left. It’s not as if we have an overabundance of activists.
You only lose when you stop fighting. Pessimism and demoralization are simply not called for in a period when the rulers of this country are planning of continuing to fight an unwinnable war, costly and very dangerous as we teeter on the brink of a Great Depression. The next four years are going to be one hell of a ride and as hard as things might get if the crisis matures into a depression, I’m sure that working people are up to the challenge after they get over the intial shock of seeing their world crumble.
We were up to the challenges of 1775, 1860, the last depression and we ran their asses into the ground during Vietnam. This time around will be at least as successful as that.
Rapture sounds like a drag queen's name - ever hear of serparation of church and state? I pay my taxes, hurt no one and deserve the same rights that you have. Did Ellen's marriage hurt you in any way shape or form. This is why this country is in economic crisis right now. People are too busy with shit that doesn't affect them while the country is falling apart economically. Glad my mortgage is paid off at 44 years of age.
Obama to Launch Another Faith Tour That Includes Rabid Anti-gay Supporter of Prop. 8 Which Would Ban Marriage Equality for Same-sex Couples in CA.
Yep, Obama is fighting for our equality all right. In case you haven't heard the latest, Obama just invited the most rabid anti-marriage homophobic swine in California to join his new so-called "Faith and Values" tour on the West Coast.
According to the major GLBT publication, the Advocate:
Sen. Barack Obama's campaign is reportedly launching a "Faith, Family, and Values Tour" next week in California that will include Catholic legal scholar Douglas Kmiec as one of the campaign's surrogates.
Kmiec wrote an op-ed for the San Francisco Chronicle this summer in which he urged SUPPORT for passing California's marriage ban, Proposition 8.
http://www.advocate.com/
exclusiv..._ektid61930.asp
(From the Sept. issue of the Advocate -- Check it out!)
Douglas Kmeic wrote, in his attack on marriage equality: "In a depopulating world, the claim that there is a universal right to marry regardless of gender becomes a frightening ally of a claimed universal right to access to genetically engineered children. People should reject this claim by returning traditional marriage to its rightful place."
This guy, Obama's new friend, is a dangerous loon. He believes same-sex marriage will lead to the end of civilization because same-sex couples may someday make cloning more popular than the old fashion way of reproduction.
And "in a depopulating world"? What? Straights will always be fornicating like rabbits and keeping the population growing (unfortunately, with horrific consequences, for some third world countries with limited resources).
So again,I ask: what the F**k ???!!! Obama, oh my god! Not another anti-gay friend of yours. Are you a closeted basher for some reason? Are the rumors true. Is Obama just another self-loathing, "on the down-low", Donnie McClurkin? Why does he wear these bigots like a badge of honor around his neck? Or are they beards?
Well, we should all be worried. We should be worried about a guy running for president who brings into the fold some of our worst enemies. Apparently, the gay community's objection to the last "Obama Gospel Tour", which featured the "ex-homo" Donnie "Pray the Gay Away" McClurkin, made very little impact on Obama and his campaign organizers.
Now, Obama brings in the equivalent of an "anti-gay-nazi-hunter", arch-homophobe, Douglas Kmeic. This nutcase, and disciple of Clinton "Monica-gate" prosecutor Ken Starr, spews hateful nonsense about gay people in the future becoming Nazi-like human-cloners (shades of "The Boys from Brazil" and Josef Mengele) who will be bent on destroying the entire human race by genetically engineering "designer gay children". Straights will stop copulating and little gay Ken doll human replicants will party on until the last one leaves the planet and turns off the lights. Hence, the end
Bill Perdue: The life-cycle is slowing down my activism. I've done my bits in volunteer work, grant applications, getting students through their theses, posting extensive reviews on ESL sites, and such--it's not much, but after fifty-odd years of my forms of protest and thirty-five years at least at watching the almost self-inflicted ruin of the middle-class, I'm almost out of resources.
It's a real question in my mind whether or not the United States has passed some tipping-point that can only be seen in retrospect. Our situation is indeed as critical as you suggest. Virtually everything you support I've seen turned into wreckage in my adult lifetime. Much of the gay movement, unions, a capable social democratic left, a once remarkable middle-class. There's never been a foreign policy that represents any kind of global sanity. Name it--almost everything is damaged or broken. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tired and demoralized.
Nonetheless, your generation can not let itself just surrender to this--but, frankly, the younger ones seem horribly ill-prepared even to think their way through the mess. I have more hope for a new generation that is not based in the United States...provided the United States in the exercise of its "super power" role doesn't systematically sabotage the efforts of new generations in the Developing World, as it has tried its best to prevent a Europe from developing that's not just a "free trade" playground for the United States. It's stunning--if you live in the Developing World or in "Frontier" societies--just how much the United States has done to sabotage everything which is not in American interests. Ecological ruin is perhaps the most salient, but it's only a chunk of the iceberg even if it's the chunk that will sink the ship.
Ecology and environtmental movements are probably where I'll throw my dwindling energies next. There, too, I'm on the defensive.
Dear Jeffie Scarea, since you are UBIQUITOUS (and INIQUITOUS) do not assume that anyone who (unfortunately) comes across one of your absurd posts could, in any way, be STALKING YOU! DO NOT SO FLATTER YOURSELF! Hugs, Jeffie Barrea
Hot news!: McCain suspends campaign
SEND THEM ALL TO SAN FRANCISCO FOR THE FOLSOM STREET FAIR. I think every Republican on the old campaign trail should get on a plane and come to the Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco this weekend. They can find out what lipstick on a pig really means. This is Nancy Pelosi country. Here, our bridges to go somewhere! And its also Gavin Newsom country. Get married if you like. Better yet, Alaska Airlines stops in San Francisco. I say let Sarah Palin debate one of the Sisters. I know the sisters and Sarah Palin is no Sister of Perpetual Indulgence. If things get too rocky, we have makeup artists that will fix anyone up for much less than $5,000.
Beetstra, I've been active in the socialist (not reformist) movement, the antiwar movement and etc. since 1960. My first arrest was at an FBI office the day after those four little girls were murdered at the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church in 1963. I've been active in the GLBT left for decades and been on more picket lines and demonstrations about more issues than I can count.
It's because I have a clear memory of all that that I'm optimistic about the youth radicalization of today, especially among LGBT youth: the last time I checked GLSEN and GSA chapters were active on about 3,000!!! high school campuses. (*) Almost every college campus in the US has some sort of GLBT group.
On campuses, in unions an in the movements against the genocide, for women’s rights, against racism, for GLBT rights and immigrant rights and to protect the environment whole new layers of the population are being forced to take a stand, to organize, and to fight for themselves. This is particularly true in unions, the heavy infantry of social change. Combine that awakening with an unwinnable war, economic chaos and environmental degradation and you’ve got a recipe for change as fundamental as the kind we had in 1776 and 1860.
How could any one be tired of that?
I expect though, that you may be right about being too late to stem the ecological problems. If the people who wrote the UNs
International Strategy for Disaster Reduction are right the critical environmental damage has been done and we’re going to be in for some rough times. http://www.unisdr.org/eng/risk-
r...adaptation.html
(*) “More than 3,000 student clubs, commonly known as gay-straight alliances, are registered with GLSEN. This number does not serve as an exact number for how many exist. Many student groups work on LGBT issues but are not named GSAs, while other student clubs may exist without having the information to be in touch with GLSEN or choose not to register with us. http://new.glsen.org/cgi-bin/iow...home/
index.html
Why is it that only stalkers are incapable of self-control?
Have to respond.
Have to get your attention.
Kinda like "outters" in that regard.
Must make their lives normal by accusing others of abnormality.
Sounds like we've found the opposite of ex-gays. Now we have the Democratic gays. Must be Democrats or ur not gay.
Now we have the yin and yang.
Yeah that's right Rapture you stupid dickhead. Compare dropping a wall on a gay person and we'll see how fast both of your hands are chopped off for excessive masturbation in Iraq.
"What's wrong with Kansas?" they used to ask about working-class people who vote against their own interests. The same, unfortunately, can be asked of some homosexuals. The self-hatred runs deep. Mark Buse is apparently the Mary Cheney of 2008. I hope he's getting paid a LOT of money for his Faustian bargain, and I hope his soul is worth it.
You know... Obama and Biden are against Gay Marriage. Does that make them anti gaY? I don't think it makes them any more anti-gay than McCain or anyone else. Also, Clinton the first and Clinton the second were both vehemently opposed to gay marriage. Clinton the first signed into law and Defense of Marriage act which, among many other things, denies Fed Gov employees benefits to domestic partners. You can't think, "oooh republican therefore anti gay". It's worse in my mind that Obama (supposedly of the party that is "all inclusive") discriminates...oh, I guess that can't be.....he's black!
I'm not against gays, just the radical gay agendas like gay marriage and trying to force the agenda into schools to recruit boys and wanting children to think gay life style is just as normal as heterosexual life style. Being heterosexual is great. getting married is a gift from the all mighty to bond men and women in a blessed relationship. Have children, have sex with my beautiful wife,her soft sweet touch only a real woman has and the female aura she emit's. Gay agenda is just another in your face annoyance by nazi gays. You won't win.Go away and be happy in your socalled fun fabulous world of ass hole hopping every day.
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