I understand you so well, my Venus!
We'll keep in touch via email!
Happy Destinies, we will be here and miss you!
Pouting ~
ahh,your the one that fliped me off. You should put under no comment Friday Girl.
Shame to see you go, all the best.
And should I ever be in New Jersey (unlikely, but possible) I'll keep an eye out for that T-shirt.
Best wishes to you-you'll be missed!
take care of yourself girlie girl !
life is crazy around here too these days-and i've thought of not blogging due to lack of time, but then i think if i didnt blog i'd drink....heavily. so here i am....
i wish ya much luck and i hope things slow down for ya ......take care....
Cabinets will do that. So will sinks.
take care hon. we will speak via e-mail. loadsa love from your prickly english man.
Gwen ~ When you head south I have a box load of jewelry supplies for you.
CJM ~ I expect that you will have many roads to travel in your bright future!
No matter where you go in the world,
you can always log on when ya need some inspiration out here.
Sending you cyber hugs and best wishes for all to be well for you in your world
Ah, real life is calling eh.
please stop in and let me know how you are doing from time to time! If I see a No Comment teeshirt I will think of ya! I never have seen one! lol
My favorite teeshirt of the moment is one that a single guy friend had... it read 'Friend wirh Privileges' lol
Happy Wed Sirreene!
It seems many of us are dwindling on time to update our blogs. It's a shame really. I will definitely think of you if I ever see a no comment tshirt..take care sirrene.
Say it ain't so..........
I will always see you,
JJ
JJ ~ my dear friend, September brings changes. It is true kisses to you and your new friend 
perhaps you will return. If so we will be happy to hear from you again.
DayByDay4-2Day ~ I an not far, just floating by. I will continue to visit your sites but I haven't the time to or interest to keep this site up.
I'll keep dropping by to check up on you....
When you're in the nude... er... mood!
Cheers,
Mr. H.K.
Postcards from Hell's
Kitchen
And I Quote Blog
Oh you are leaving again? Well I'm gonna have to head to NJ and start looking for the hot chic wearing the 'No comment' shirt. Hopefully there isn't a whole hord of women in NJ as sassy you.
Come back.
Mr. HK ~ I will always appreciate that you were my 1st! Commenter that is 
Good luck, Sirreene! Have fun out there, and you'll be welcome back here at any time
networkchic ~ I'll look forward to chatting with the woman pushing the stroller and I look forward to your continued posts.
Best of luck! I'm here late....will e-mail you later today.
Sangroncito ~ Thank you, my friend
thinking about ya! Hope all is well there! I just may be putting these little tykes into private school down here in FL... your sister is right! lol
Kate, there are good reasons. Just do it for the correct ones and not the cute uniforms!
You left me some comments a year ago & I never stopped by your page to say hi & thanks so that's what I'm doing now. Hi. Thanks!
I want one of those T shirts! Hope you are well xx
r party girl ~ you're quite welcome.
Grace ~ wonderful to hear from you. Feel free to email if you'd like.
Just stopped by to check in--hope everything is well with you.
TJ ~ You looking for some tricks 
Miss you! Hope all's well!
Happy Thanksgiving ~
Odd is evil, even is good. Evil is amplified/maximized in the Age of the Disfavored (1906) while good is minimized, as we see with this Situaition 2006.
Happy New Year 2007!
Update this shit babe!
Hope you are well Sirreene
Hello, you have a wonderful blog, but I can't find your email address, can you please contact me at linkexchange@edenfantasys.com? I have something to discuss with you
Regards, Chris
(Please can you delete this comment after your decision?)
Well... I wondered where you have been. That t-shirt hasn't shown up around the Midwest (or anywhere else I've been) But I'll keep my eyes open. I hope that all is well! ~ jb///
THE MARK OF THE BEAST
1 Cor: 6:9-11:
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,
or abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor DRUNKARDS,
nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified,
but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”
The word "alcoholic" is not in the BIBLE. There is no mention of the 12 Steps or that ALCOHOLISM, is a DISEASE – in the BIBLE. One is either a DRUNKARD or was a DRUNKARD – end of story. Bill Wilson manufactured the BIG BOOK & the 12 STEPS out of his head, and millions of GROUPERS (12 STEPPERS) have been “hoodwinked” by his anti – Christ propaganda. Labelling oneself, as an ALCOHOLIC is THE MARK OF THE BEAST – one has condemned oneself to the fiery furnace. In HELL, there is no chance of REDEMPTION. AA is HELL!!
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
MICKY - http://michael-micky.blogspot.com/
THE SEMANTICS OF THE 12 STEP NEUROSIS:
Surrender, Disease, Denial and other dysfunctional 12-step pathways
to personal dis-empowerment and cult dependancy
by Clifton W. Kirton (Dr. X-ray)
OUR COMMON WELFARE COMES FIRST
Our traditions are key elements in the ego deflation process necessary to achieve and maintain sobriety in Alcoholics Anonymous. The first tradition reminds me not to take credit, or authority, for my recovery. ...Deferring my personal desires for the greater good of group growth contributes toward A.A. unity that is central to allrecovery. It helps me to remember that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. (1) [Italics mine]
This statement from a fully indoctrinated A.A. member sounds like something you'd learn the first day in Principles of Brainwashing 101, doesn't it? For those who are not comfortable with this viewpoint, or who would put a positive spin on the self invalidating principles inextricably bound to what Alcoholics Anonymous calls "recovery," let us examine further some of the mental shenanigans, evasive tactics, and thought control techniques from which the fabric of A.A. is woven. Of course, we know and humbly accept that the brilliant light A.A. shines on us all with only the best intentions, but we also know the stuff with which the road to hell is paved.
"The other day, someone told me that A.A. was a brainwashing organization. I figure my brain is so messed up it could use a good washing." Direct quote from a member at a Toledo, Ohio A.A. meeting.
If we acknowledge, as do most thinking people, that language, and the chosen vocabulary of any movement or philosophical system are important determinants of its thought and action, and that the semantics common to a group or society reveals much about the inner workings of any organization or culture, we can draw meaningful insight into the fundamental nature of any such group by examining the words and phrases it uses to express itself, as well as the sub-texts implicit in these expressions, sub-texts which, in Alcoholics Anonymous, are clearly crippling and destructive.
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
PIRITUAL, NOT RELIGIOUS" ???
By Ken Ragge
The steps are presented as a "spiritual, not religious" way of recovery from, at last count, over 500 different "diseases." Group members, who now number between 10 and 15 million, often claim the steps are responsible for saving their lives.
The first three of the twelve steps are:
1. We admitted we were powerless over (insert any one of over 500 "spiritual diseases") and our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
These first steps serve the purpose of breaking down the new recruit's autonomy. In the first step, the "pigeon" or "baby" must admit that he has no resources within himself to change his own behavior and, although rarely stated directly, that he can't make his own decisions in life. Someone else must do that for him.
In the second step, he generally must first confess insanity; that he can not trust his own thoughts. He now must choose a "higher power." While much pretense is given to a freedom of choice on what one choooses for a higher power, the main point is that the indoctrinee looks to the group elders and doctrine, rather than his own conscience and religious beliefs, for a definition of that God. Although he can't trust his own thoughts, he can trust the elders and doctrine.
For example, if someone, as the A.A. story goes, should choose a doorknob as his higher power, he will be constantly confronted on how to relate to it. In the third step, he must turn his will and life over to the doorknob, and in later steps pray to it in a specific fashion. Whatever his prior religious beliefs, piece by piece, he will be pressured to accept A.A. doctrinal beliefs about God.
Much of the language of the steps was carefully chosen to avoid "confusing" potential recruits. They might reject "the program" as a religious sect. The word "sin" was changed to "defects of character," "confess" to "admit," "wretched sinner" to "powerless," "God" to "higher power," "confession" to "fifth step sharing," "bearing witness" to twelfth step sharing" and "conversion" or "recruitment" to "carrying the message."
Early A.A. members knew that if they were seen as just another religious sect they would have to follow the rules other religious groups happily abide by in this country. They changed their language and changed the sacred text from the Bible to "The Big Book." They changed their self-description from their pro-Nazi forerunner group's "more spiritual than religious" to "spiritual not religious." This enabled a religious mind-control cult to better deceive not only potential recruits, but to great success in infiltrating all our national institutions.
I, MICKY, AM AGIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
Mary Christine Said:
Comment Moderation
I apologize to all but one... I have enabled "comment moderation". Our sexually abused, orphaned, bipolar disordered (manic phase), hyperreligious, delusional friend from down unda has crossed the line and I cannot have this stuff polluting my blog. I am a Roman Catholic woman, my faith means more to me than anything. To distort the face and words of Jesus Christ to make a point about your loathing of AA is just more than I can bear.
Micky Said:
Dear Mary
I felt some pain reading your post. I imagine you were RAGING over your fear, pain and shame. Your process is not about me, Mary, but "stuff" you have repressed from your childhood. I am just a TRIGGER? Moderating my comments is not going to help you face your DEMONS. You never mentioned how you felt, Mary? You have a conscious fear of intimacy and an unconscious fear of abandonment. I feel some sadness - you are cutting yourself of from the only person who really cares about your ETERNAL SOUL. I love you, Mary Christine!! Do you love me? Get out of the FIERY FURNACE - AA.
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
dAAve said...
Mickey (and those like him) is the very reason I am anti-religous. I will NEVER have anything to do with his God. He is all about HATE rather than love and tolerance.
Dear David
You are projecting your TERROR onto me. Is your god, Satan, Davy? Get down on your knees, Dave, and ask Jesus Christ to forgive you, for the above DIATRIBE (sins). You are an EMOTIONAL COWARD, David, and you will eventually pick up a drink, commit suicide or end up in a mental hospital - frothing at the mouth. The only hope for you is John 3: 16. I love you, Davy? Do you love, Micky?
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
Banana Girl said...
Spiritual progress for some just takes time and willingness.
Micky Said
Greetings Banana Girl
But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ
(2 Corinthians 11:3).
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
on my blog.
Mary Christine Said:
I have been wounded by these cruel and idiotic comments on my blog.
Micky Said:
My Dear Christine
I imagine you are in quite a lot of pain. Feel your PAIN, Mary!! The PAIN you are feeling, is SUPPRESSED PAIN from your childhood. AA is SUPPRESSING your pain! You will eventually pick up a drink, or go insane (if you aren’t already) - if you don't process your CHILDHOOD TERROR? I am just an instrument that GOD uses - be thankful to me, Christine. You will be in my prayers, when I attend ROSARY, tomorrow. I love you, Mary? Do you love me?
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
Brad said...
So I guess what I mean to say is that I'm searching for a sponsor.
Micky Said:
Dearest Bradley
Why don't you call on BONIFACE, & ask him to be your SPONSOR? Wilson did! Boniface is a departed spirit that Wilson used to talk to. Do you mind talking to DEAD PEOPLE, Brad? Wilson didn't mind? Are you a psychopath, Bradley or have the other AA BLOGGERS, Dave, Gwen, and Sharon et al, made you into one? I love you, Bradley! Do you love me?
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
YamadogGirl said...
Thank you for posting this comment, and doing so with compassion in your heart. I too have meet the infamous fanatic, and all I can do is pray for him. He's in a very dark place, and maybe a prayer for him can help.
Micky Said:
My Dear Yamadoggirl
Were you sexually abused as a child? Was your father a religious fanatic? Your process is not about Micky, bur unresolved "stuff' from your childhood, I love you, Yamadoggirl1 Do you love me? Are you in Hell (AA)?
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
CULT OF NECROPHILIA
by Devin Sexson
Alcoholics Anonymous is a "cult of necrophilia." I am not saying here that there is some kind of bizarre sexual ritual involving dead bodies in AA meetings. What this means is that there is a fascination with death. The cult revolves around death. I remember when I went to AA I would here the common statement, something to the effect of, "I felt terrible earlier today, then I went to a meeting and now I feel just great!"
I wondered why I never felt great after a meeting. Meetings usually had no effect on me but often I found them down right creepy. Why? Because I am not a necrophiliac, I don't get off on sitting around talking about how we will die of alcoholism if we don't ingest this religious crap.
But the creepiness goes a little deeper than that. In order for the cult to function some members must die from alcoholism. Those members who "cannot or will not" resign themselves to the religio-fascist structure of the cult can only be of value to the cult if they are:
1. Constantly relapsing.
2. Dead.
Consider these examples:
All of us in A.A. know the tremendous happiness that is in our sobriety, but there are also tragedies. My sponsor, Jackie, was one of these. He brought in many of our original members, yet he himself could not make it and died of alcoholism.
-- The Big Book, 3rd Edition, page 239.
After being dry two weeks and sticking close to Jackie, all of a sudden I found I had become the sponsor of my sponsor, for he was suddenly taken drunk. I was startled to learn that he had only been off the booze for a month or so himself when he brought me the message!
-- The Big Book, 3rd Edition, page 245.
The Boston group provided us with a fresh wonder and a big heartbreak, too. Its founder could never get sober himself and he finally died of alcoholism. Paddy was just too sick to make it. Slip followed slip, but he came back each time to carry A.A.'s message, at which he was amazingly successful. Time after time the group nursed him back to life. Then came the last bender, and that was it. This very sick man left behind him a great group and a triple-A rating for valor. His first two successes, Bert C. and Jennie B., carry on to this day.
-- Alcoholics Anonymous Comes Of Age, William G. Wilson, page 96.
AA was already established in South Africa when Marty arrived, with a ready pool of interested and willing citizens. It had been started in that country by a relapsing alcoholic, "Johnny Appleseed." He was a gifted businessman and highly successful proponent of AA, but he could not stay sober. Regardless, wherever he traveled and got drunk and sobered up, he left literature about AA.
-- A Biography of Mrs. Marty Mann: The First Lady of Alcoholics Anonymous, Sally Brown and David R. Brown, page 224.
What is wrong with this picture? Why are these men sacrificing their own lives for the good of the cult? These are clear, unmistakable examples of how the cult values con
SATANIC ILLUSION:
SATANIC ILLUSION WAS BASIS OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS:
Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world (1 Peter 5:8-9). Satan, whom God had created the most beautiful and intelligent angel of all the angels was named Lucifer - "the shining one," until he rebelled against God, wishing to be God and to receive the worship that is due only to God. After he rebelled and was thrown to earth from heaven, the Bible says, God renamed him Satan, which means the "deceiver" and the "adversary." Because "Bill Wilson had rejected the concept of a personal Creator God and because the thought of the existence of a God to whom he was accountable was completely repugnant to him, when he cried out in desperation because of his alcoholism, it was not to the one true God, but to any "higher power" who might exist, not to the God who has revealed Himself to man in His Holy Word, and this was an invitation with which Satan was delighted to comply. Satan immediately rewarded Wilson with an incredible occultic "experience." In Wilson's own words, "Suddenly the room lit up with a great "white light." I was caught up into an ecstasy which there are no words to describe. It seemed to me, in the mind's eye, that I was on a mountain and that a wind not of air but of spirit was blowing. And then it burst upon me that I was a free man. Slowly the ecstasy subsided. I lay on the bed, but now for a time I was in another world, a new world of consciousness. All about me and through me there was a wonderful feeling of Presence..."
and because of that experience, Alcoholics Anonymous was founded so that others could share in Bill Wilson's experience. References to similar experiences with "white light" can be found throughout the world of the occult.
PEACE BE WITH YOU
MICKY
CHAINED STEPPER
Oh, Bill Wilson
My darling
I've hungered for your Big Book
A long, lonely time
And AA goes by so slowly
And AA can do nothing much
Are you still insane?
I need your cult
I need your cult
Bill! speed your cult to me
Lonely Steppers flow
To the abyss, to the abyss
To the open arms of the abyss
Lonely Steppers sigh
Wait for me, wait for me
I'll be a Wilson clone
Wait for me
Oh, Bob Smith
My darling
I've hungered, hungered, for the Steps
A long, lonely time
And “how it works” is rarely
Seen as anything but crap
Are you still on wine?
I need you Doc!
I need your Doc!
Bob! “speed” your 'BILL' to me!!
PEACE BE WITH YOU
MICKY
12 STEP BRAINWASHING
Mr. Bill Wilson, founder of Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.) and creator of the twelve step program. Mr. Wilson was heavily influenced by demons. Chapter sixteen (p. 275f) of 'Pass It On' The Story of Bill Wilson and how the A.A. message reached the world records Mr. Wilson's use of the ouija board, participation in seances, psychic events, "spook sessions", table levitation, and how he would receive "messages" from "discarnate" spirits. Bill Wilson was clearly in contact with demons, and this is the man who created the deceptive twelve step program. Make a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him. (step #11. Emphasis added.) The last part of this statement ("as we understood Him") is enough to damn your soul! God says, Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. (Proverbs 3:5). This is the exact opposite of "God as we understood Him." All men, according to Romans 1:18-32, are condemned before God, because they rely upon their own understanding (Romans 1:21; Ephesians 4:18, "having their understanding darkened"), and they create (in their own darkened minds) a god of their own making (Romans 1:23). To encourage people to turn their "lives over to the care of God as we understood Him", is to encourage people to "turn their lives over to a god of their own making" (i.e. according to their own understanding). This promotes nothing more than spiritual death (Revelation 22:15). In addition, these twelve steps are a deceitful attack against the saving work of the Lord Jesus Christ (i.e. they are against Christ, antichrist, 2 John 7; Colossians 2:8-10).
PEACE BE WITH YOU
MICKY
BILL WILSON'S HIGHER POWER - HIMSELF
Bill W. : The absorbing and deeply moving life story of Bill Wilson, co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous
1-8 of 8 pages with reference to Bill W’s Higher Power inside this book:
1.
on Page 152:
“… BILL W. something more conservative to balance his holdings, he had hit … and, more perhaps than anything, gave him the sense of power he had always craved. Late in the summer he grew … they told him, everything was high, but it was going higher. American Tel and Tel was over 310, General Electric 403. It was a time to have confidence . It was …”
2.
on Page 189:
“… BILL W. tried praying, and keeping an open mind about it … … using the word “God” again, Ebby began speaking of “another power,” a “higher power.” And as he did, Bill was no longer pretending to listen; his full attention had been won. It was …”
3.
on Page 202:
“… BILL W. rightness. No matter how wrong things seemed to be, they … a part of God, himself a living part of the higher power, was a new and revolutionary feeling. And it was a feeling that he wanted to hang on to now, to …”
4.
on Page 230:
“… BILL W. over, he would find himself startled into a smile. There … All he wanted was to feel himself part of the higher power he knew was running the universe. He was also convinced that alcoholism was a three-pronged illness , mental, physical and …”
5.
on Page 240:
“… BILL W. more than a game they were playing, more than a … pragmatists. They might have been instruments, channels through which a higher power had started to work, but for them that afternoon, it was only a start. Forty was a startling figure, but …”
6.
on Page 294:
“… BILL W. But the non-alcoholics remained skeptical. To the psychiatrically oriented, all … inner voice, but in talking with others he would say higher power, life force or any words the listener might be comfortable with. But by whatever name they cared to use, it …”
7.
on Page 298:
“… BILL W. But as with the mysterious ingredient that he knew was … the verge of grasping a message or moving into some higher state of consciousness , he had never talked about it; … years he went on following, trying to understand, a mysterious power he sensed was there, a part of his concept of anonymity. Though he could not quite comprehend its meaning, he …”
8.
on Page 324:
“… BILL W. what has been his fate. Our conversation which he has … when you walk on a path which leads you to higher understanding. You might be led to that goal by an … action from above and isolated in society, cannot resist the power of evil, which is called very aptly the Devil. But the use of such words arouses so many mistakes that …”
1-1 of 1 page with references to Jesus Christ inside this book:
1. on Page 193:
“… some-for the old, the hopeless, for those who had passed beyond loving, beyond any hope of really living, but, by Christ, he was different. It might be the last arrogant gasp of alcoholic pride but, miserable and terrified as he w
A.A. AND RELIGIOUS FAITH
A.A. and Religious Faith
by A. Orange
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
Bill Wilson documented this vicious behavior in official A.A. literature, and even bragged about it, and offered this story as an example of how to deal with the problem of non-believers who stubbornly refuse religious conversion.
Mr. Wilson rationalized the whole story by saying that if they had just kicked Ed out for "blasphemy", in the beginning when he refused religious conversion, then the man would never have come to God. So deal with such guys the way that this story teaches:
Nowadays, when oldtimers who know Ed foregather, they exclaim, "What if we had actually succeeded in throwing Ed out for blasphemy? What would have happened to him and all the others he later helped?"
Isn't it funny that criticizing the hypocritical religiosity of Alcoholics Anonymous is "blasphemy"? Criticizing Bill Wilson's bombastic preaching is "blasphemy", punishable by death? Who does Bill Wilson think he is, the Pope? Or Grand Inquisitor Torquemada?
Also note the total denial there: Bill Wilson and the other elders basically did throw Ed out. They ostracized him, they 'bad-vibed' him, "all fraternal charity vanished", they wished that Ed would relapse, and then they abandoned Ed to death by alcohol when he relapsed. Then they sanctimoniously pretended that they had done no such things.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
And there is a similar story in the Big Book, on pages 246 and 247 of the third edition (page 228 of the 4th edition), Jim Burwell's story The Vicious Cycle, where we read:
Much later I discovered the elders held many prayer meetings hoping to find a way to give me [a non-believer] the heave-ho but at the same time stay tolerant and spiritual.
William G. Wilson
"Stay tolerant and spiritual"? Isn't that a laugh?
Those "elders" sure had funny ideas of tolerance and spirituality:
* According to the standard A.A. dogma, you will die a horrible drunken death from alcoholism if you leave Alcoholics Anonymous -- "Nobody can do it alone", they say.
* They say that alcoholism is a "progressive disease", and that you don't have any control over it -- you are "powerless" over alcohol -- so kicking someone out of A.A. and abandoning him to alcoholism is (according to A.A.) imposing a very cruel slow death sentence on him.
* But somehow, "the elders" imagined that they could do that to a fellow Alcoholics Anonymous member, and still be "tolerant and spiritual."
* So those smug, sanctimonious hypocrites held many prayer meetings, seeking just the right "spiritual" way to send Jim Burwell to his death.
Bill Wilson really had a mean, hateful, side to him (which is typical of Narcissistic Personality Disorder). He self-righteously condemned men to slow painful deaths by alcohol for not believing in God in the way that Bill dictated. Bill Wilson only granted
A.A. AND RELIGIOUS FAITH
A.A. and Religious Faith{AMENDED}
by A. Orange
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
Bill Wilson documented this vicious behavior in official A.A. literature, and even bragged about it, and offered this story as an example of how to deal with the problem of non-believers who stubbornly refuse religious conversion.
Mr. Wilson rationalized the whole story by saying that if they had just kicked Ed out for "blasphemy", in the beginning when he refused religious conversion, then the man would never have come to God. So deal with such guys the way that this story teaches:
Nowadays, when oldtimers who know Ed foregather, they exclaim, "What if we had actually succeeded in throwing Ed out for blasphemy? What would have happened to him and all the others he later helped?"
Isn't it funny that criticizing the hypocritical religiosity of Alcoholics Anonymous is "blasphemy"? Criticizing Bill Wilson's bombastic preaching is "blasphemy", punishable by death? Who does Bill Wilson think he is, the Pope? Or Grand Inquisitor Torquemada?
Also note the total denial there: Bill Wilson and the other elders basically did throw Ed out. They ostracized him, they 'bad-vibed' him, "all fraternal charity vanished", they wished that Ed would relapse, and then they abandoned Ed to death by alcohol when he relapsed. Then they sanctimoniously pretended that they had done no such things.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
And there is a similar story in the Big Book, on pages 246 and 247 of the third edition (page 228 of the 4th edition), Jim Burwell's story The Vicious Cycle, where we read:
Much later I discovered the elders held many prayer meetings hoping to find a way to give me [a non-believer] the heave-ho but at the same time stay tolerant and spiritual.
William G. Wilson
"Stay tolerant and spiritual"? Isn't that a laugh?
Those "elders" sure had funny ideas of tolerance and spirituality:
* According to the standard A.A. dogma, you will die a horrible drunken death from alcoholism if you leave Alcoholics Anonymous -- "Nobody can do it alone", they say.
* They say that alcoholism is a "progressive disease", and that you don't have any control over it -- you are "powerless" over alcohol -- so kicking someone out of A.A. and abandoning him to alcoholism is (according to A.A.) imposing a very cruel slow death sentence on him.
* But somehow, "the elders" imagined that they could do that to a fellow Alcoholics Anonymous member, and still be "tolerant and spiritual."
* So those smug, sanctimonious hypocrites held many prayer meetings, seeking just the right "spiritual" way to send Jim Burwell to his death.
Bill Wilson really had a mean, hateful, side to him (which is typical of Narcissistic Personality Disorder). He self-righteously condemned men to slow painful deaths by alcohol for not believing in God in the way that Bill dictated. Bill Wilson o
FRIENDS, MORONS AND STEPPERS
Friends, Morons and Steppers, lend me your SPONSORS;
I come to bury WILSON, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with WILSON. The noble MICKY
Hath told you WILSON was PSYCHOTIC:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath WILSON answer'd it.
Here, under leave of MICKY and the rest -
For MICKY is an honourable man;
So are they all, all honourable men - Come I to speak in WILSON'S funeral.
He was my friend, faithful and just to me:
But MICKY says he was a 13th STEPPER;
And MICKY is an honourable man.
He hath brought many ZOMBIES home to AA
Whose DRUNKALOGUES, did the Church Halls fill:
Did this in WILSON seem ambitious?
When that the STEPPERS have cried, WILSON had a cigarette:
EMPHYSEMA should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet MICKY says he was a PSYCHOPATH;
And MICKY is an honourable man.
You all did see that at the AA Convention
I thrice presented him an AA medallion,
Which his "higher power" thrice refused: was this HOW IT WORKS?
Yet MICKY says he was a MANIC - DEPRESSIVE SCAM ARTIST, who talked to dead people;
And, sure, he is an honourable man.
I speak not to disprove what MICKY spoke,
But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all did love him once, not without cause:
What cause withholds you then, to LAUGH at him?
O judgment! thou art fled to the 5th STEP,
And the STEPS have lost their reason. Bear with me;
My BIG BOOK is in the coffin there with WILSON,
And I must pause till I can borrow another one.
HORROR
Three years ago I was wandering around [mental hospital] completely shattered physically, emotionally and spiritually. The mental torment I was experiencing was absolutely terrifying. Every waking second, I was having horrifying images from my past. I thought I was being punished for my past sins. My whole life flashed before my eyes and I felt I had failed miserably in my journey through life. The whole experience was an awakening [THE LONG DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL] a metamorphosis. God was slowly penetrating the shield I had put up all those desperate years. I had no “I” - that is what God wanted for me, to become Christ cantered, not “I” cantered [in retrospect]. There is nothing in this world, but the saving grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. He eventually delivered me from my HELL; when I got down on my knees and asked Him for mercy, and forgiveness for my sins. Praise the LORD!!
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
THE 12 STEPS DOWN TO HELL:
I imagine 12 Step recovery programs are a slow slide into the jaws of Satan. I was involved with this evil “satanic cult” [AA] for over 30 years but was saved through the power of Jesus Christ. He directed me to a therapist who was into “real” recovery, not the mind destroying, soul destroying, cult, which is AA. I have met two Steppers recently & I imagine they are completely devoid of any emotion or insight. I feel pain because both these men are decent human beings but AA has destroyed their individuality & they have no idea how to relate apart from expounding AA propaganda. I imagine Hell to be a continuous flow of AA meetings without any light at the end of the tunnel because one never recovers'. I beg you people who are in 12 Step programs, to get out before it is too late.
How does one recover when one is handing one’s power over to AA. The 12 Steps were written out of Wilson’s head, he certainly didn’t get his guidance from the Bible. I imagine he was an agent of Satan & he & Smith’s “cult religion” has filled millions of Steppers with their anti - Christ propaganda.
Step Three of AA is "Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood him." While many in the Oxford Group placed their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, there was much leeway given. Shoemaker, a leader of the Oxford Group, says, "The true meaning of faith is self-surrender to God." He further explains: Surrender to whatever you know about Him, or believe must be the truth about Him. Surrender to Him, if necessary, in total ignorance of Him. Far more important that you touch Him than that you understand Him at first. Put yourself in His hands. Whatever He is, as William James said, He is more ideal than we are. Make the leap. Give yourself to Him.
Aside from capitalizing the "H," which Christians do to refer to the God of the Bible, "Him" could refer to any god of one’s own making [BEDPAN].
Can you see what is happening to you? Ask Jesus to take control of your lives, read the Bible & instead of 12 Step groups, go to Church. Burn your Big Book or use it as TOILET PAPER Can you see the difference: With The 12 Steps, you never recover but with John 3:16 you are guaranteed Eternal Salvation. The “ball is in your court”?
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE
DETESTABLE NECROMANCER
You know, the message the 12 Step Paradigm tells us that we are all just powerless over our addictions, meaningless specks of offal in an endless ocean of space and matter where hydrogen atoms and bacteria of unexplained origin can turn into god as
you understand him!! Oooo! It’s so exciting and uplifting to be regularly assured by Steppers in all their ineffable knowledge and function is just an accumulation of 1st Century Christianity Buchmanism & Nihilism. Oooo! It’s heart-warming, I’ll tell ya. We owe these "messengers" so terribly much that it is difficult to put into words... We can talk to dead people & consult spiritists.
9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifice his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. 13 You must be blameless before the LORD your God [Deuteronomy 18: 9-13]
Wilson was a “detestable necromancer” who talked to dead people & consulted spiritists. He was “an angel of light” and if you Steppers want what he had, keep going to 12 Step meetings & end up as zombies. I beg of you to see the True Light [John 3: 16] & have Eternal Life, not death [12 Steps].
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
CANCEROUS GROWTH
I imagine AA to be a cancerous growth in our society. I'm a SINNER who has been sober for over 22 years. I've seen this "cult" virtually destroy people where they become these Bill & Bob zombies devoid of any emotion. I imagine most of the Steppers are not dealing with their core issues and become addicted to the "droning Bill & Bob heads" who pop up and expel meaningless diatribe from their mouths. Alcoholism is the only "disease" one doesn't recover from & one is continually confessing ones non - existent sins, which intensify the guilt and fear when one is not at a meeting (indoctrination session). I imagine AA meetings numb and shutdown the critical thinking section of ones brain. I know a guy who has been sober for over 30 years and I imagine him to be quite mad - he doesn't even know what he's feeling most of the time apart from feeling depressed. I imagine AA to be the road to hell and that it's anti - Christ and the Steppers sell their souls to the "cult", because they are too terrified to face their “demons” & recover their true selves. That "inner child" who is waiting to be freed is slowly pushed down until it disappears into oblivion. That "child" is God! "Unless you become like little children...." "The kingdom of God is within you!" I hear things like; "I need to do the Steps!" "I need more meetings!" "I had cancer or my wife died or I lost my job!" "But! Guess what! I didn't pick up a drink". They might as well say; "I fell of my chair but I didn’t pick up a drink”! "Meaningless”! Why? Because one is not expressing ones feelings! Ones process is all about feelings! How does one recover if one doesn’t feel ones pain, fear, & shame & understand that these feelings, especially if they are overwhelming; are feelings, from ones childhood. All AA does is suppress these feelings until one ends up a semi - depressed zombie like the lunatic who has been sober for over 30 years. Can you see how dangerous this "cult" is? A madman, Bill Wilson, started it and if you want to end up like him, keep going to meetings. The sure way to insanity is "Meetings!" "Meetings!" "Meetings!"
I, MICKY, AM A GIFt TO ALL PEOPLE!!
Oxford group soul surgery techniques called for augmentation of guilt leading to the conversion experience. The alcoholics had learned, through their own conversion, a different method, augmentation of fear with an initial diminution of guilt. “It’s not your fault it’s a disease. There is nothing you can do about it. You’ll die unless you believe.” When a person was properly convinced & reached a point of proper desperation, guilt was then applied to bring about conversion of God control. These new groupers [Steppers] were motivated not primarily by guilt, but by fear. The other groupers [Steppers] being god controlled through guilt would use guilt to manipulate others.
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
AA PUSSIES!!
I don't attend AA meetings anymore -- thank God. I imagine leaving AA becomes more difficult the longer one has been exposed to this evil, soul-destroying cult. I read with some sadness of a Stepper who wanted to leave but found it difficult because AA was his whole life. One becomes trapped & I imagine most Steppers feel safe albeit quite isolated from the real world. I imagine most Steppers don't have the guts to quit (AA) because of the indoctrination ("If you quit AA -- You will drink").
My process (recovery) started in 1994 (therapy, etc) but it took me many years to make a complete break from all 12 Step programs (I was also going to SLAA, CODA, ACOA). I imagine most alcoholics are terrified of intimacy (emotional cowards) & attending 12 Step programs is the ultimate escape (from intimacy). I would suggest that quite a few of the Steppers are "pussies" because they won’t face life "full on" without the "crutch" of 12 Step programs.
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
"Hey Bob"
BILL:]
Hey, hey BOB, I had a SPIRITUAL AWAKENING
Hey, hey BOB, my higher power, will always do
I've waited so long for BOOZE to be through
BOB, I can't wait to meet you
My love, my love
[BOB:]
Hey BILL, I've had a BRAINSTORM too
Hey, hey, hey BILL, I want to meet you too
If your PROGRAM is true, if you love AA, BILL!!
The BIG BOOK will always be real
My love, my love
[BILL&BOB:]
AA means planning a life for two
Being together the whole day through
True SOBRIETY means waiting and hoping that soon
The 12 STEPS will come true
My love, my love
Anonymous said...
I cannot tell you how many AA meetings I left, thinking that if my choices were to be in AA or drink, I'd choose drinking.
I went to my first meeting 30 years ago. I am most qualified to speak for AA.
Micky Said:
Greetings Anonymous [Emotional Coward]
I imagine that your brain has been completely altered with Bill Wilson’s anti – Christ propaganda [AA]. I’ll let you into a little secret, Anonymous [SHIFT SHAPING REPTILE], one can stay sober without the need for AA meetings – I have!! The only qualifications you have, Anonymous [Bill Wilson Clone], are the qualifications you received from SATAN, when you abandoned yourself to him, 30 years ago [AA].
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
DOES ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS FOCUS ON JESUS CHRIST?
"Agents For Satan"
A DOZEN STEPS
A REASON A SEASON A LIFETIME
AAWAKENINGS
ALCOHOLIC BRAIN
ANONYMOUS ALCOHOLIC
ATTITUDE OF GRATITUDE
BIG SKY MAACK
BLUE'S THOUGHTS
COFFEE BITCH
DRAGON SPEAK
FLOWERDAVES PAGES
FROM THE FIRST CHAKRA (MSB)
HIGHER POWERED
I'M JUST F.I.N.E.
INMATEZ WIFE
IT'S A GIRL THING
LUSH FOR LIFE
MY JOURNEY TO RECOVERY
MY LIFE IN TAMPA
NO COMMENT
OUTRIGHT MENTAL DEFECTIVE
POSTCARDS FROM CUPCAKE MONKEY
RAANCH
RECOVERY ROAD
RIDIN' ON THE WAGON
SCOUT'S NEWCOMER DAZE
SIMPLY ANNA
SOBER CHICK
SOBER MOM
SOBER NUGGETS
SOBERING THOUGHTS
SOBERINSANITY
STAY AT HOME MOTHERDOM
STAYING STRAIGHT EDGE
THIS UNMANAGEABLE LIFE
THY WILL, NOT MINE
TODAAY
TWELVEBEADS
TWO DOGS BLOGGING
YOU AND ME ARE FLOATING...
I SHOULD NEVER HAVE ANY CAUSE OR REASON TO BE ASHAMED TO LOVE JESUS:
Is not the time coming, and the day hastening, when covetous men shall be ashamed of loving the world, and voluptuous men ashamed of loving their pleasures, and ambitious men ashamed of loving their honors?
For is it not a horrid shame, that a rational creature should be such a sot as to love sin which is most loathsome, and not to love Jesus who is most lovely? to love deformity, and not beauty?
Oh shame, shame! It is a shame that sin should have such esteem, and Jesus such great contempt put upon him. But shame shall before long confound these now shameless wretches, when they shall cry out, "We are ashamed that we loved profits, and not Jesus- houses, lands, lusts, and not Jesus.
This is the confusion of our faces, and shame covers us-- that we should be so foolish, and so blind, that we had not sense, nor reason, to distinguish between sin, which is the greatest and most odious evil, and Jesus who is the greatest and most lovely good." But the time will never come, the day will never be, that a gracious soul shall be ashamed of his sincere love to Jesus Christ.
I, MICKY AM A GIFT TO ALL pEOPLE!!
Dear Sirreene
I would be interested in any comments you might have?
MICKY - http://michael-micky.blogspot.com/
I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE!!
I'm beginning to think Micky is just a corporate troll hired by Google to make Blogger users use blogger comments.
I mean, seriously, no person has executive function so diminished that they would actually believe they are doing the Lord's work by comment spamming people.
Micky can't possibly be serious.
The entity known as Micky
He's Gone! Blogger yanked his profile! We shall see if he will come back, though.
Dear Marcus,
BURN IN HELL!
Shannen said
I have found that I have to forgive others in all situations to maintain any real spiritual progress.
Dear Shannen,
If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land. (2 Chronicles
A.A. and Religious Faith
TWELVE STEPS AWAY FROM CHRIST
Mr. Bill Wilson, who was heavily influenced by demons, was founder of Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.) and creator of the twelve-step program.
Chapter sixteen (p. 275f) of 'Pass It On' The Story of Bill Wilson and how the A.A. message reached the world records Mr. Wilson's use of the ouija board, participation in séances, psychic events, "spook sessions", table levitation, and how he would receive "messages" from "discarnate" spirits.
Bill Wilson was clearly in contact with demons, and this is the man who created the deceptive twelve-step program.
Make a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God, as we understood Him. (Step #11.) The last part of this statement ("as we understood Him") is enough to damn your soul! God says, Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.(Proverbs 3:5).
This is the exact opposite of "God as we understood Him." All men, according to Romans 1:18-32, are condemned before God, because they rely upon their own understanding (Romans 1:21; Ephesians 4:18, "having their understanding darkened"), and they create (in their own darkened minds) a god of their own making (Romans 1:23).
To encourage people to turn their "lives over to the care of God as we understood Him", is to encourage people to "turn their lives over to a god of their own making" (i.e. according to their own understanding).
This promotes nothing more than spiritual death (Revelation 22:15). In addition, these twelve steps are a deceitful attack against the saving work of the Lord Jesus Christ (i.e. they are against Christ, anti-Christ, 2 John 7; Colossians 2:8-10).
The twelve steps are (as Mr. Wilson used them) given as an answer (a way) in which one can overcome sin (with Mr. Wilson's case, the sin of drunkenness).
Jesus Christ is the ONLY answer for sin. He is the only way (John 14:6). There is only ONE "step", and that is faith in the Saviour (Ephesians 2:8/Matthew1:21/John 8:36/Romans10: 13!
The above exemplifies the "twelve steps" are what are used to "become free from addictive, compulsive" behaviour (i.e. sin). In other words, the twelve steps are the saviour!
No doubt it is deceptive, because "Biblical principles" are interwoven throughout; but if they weren't, few (if any) would be deceived. One good question to ask would be, "Where does Scripture talk about any 'twelve steps'"? The answer? Nowhere!
These twelve steps come from Satan (via Bill Wilson), who is the master deceiver (Revelation 12:9). Remember, SATAN used Scripture to tempt Christ (Matthew 4:6), and Balaam spoke much truth (Numbers 23-24); but he was a false prophet (2 Peter 2:15-16/Numbers 22).
In Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus warned, Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is
THE 12 STEPS
Nowhere in the 12 steps does it say that you should quit drinking, or help anyone else to quit drinking, either.
Nowhere do the words SOBRIETY, RECOVERY, ABSTINENCE, HEALTH, HAPPINESS, JOY, & LOVE appear in the 12 Steps.
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