Seeing that libtards have no substantiation their comments will be edited or deleted.
"As for me and my blog, we will serve the LORD!"
Matthew 25:40 "And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
"So, this year we have a whining loser from a presidential election resorting to scare tactics to get some attention ..."
Matthew 25:44 "Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me."
What a fine new testament to Christianity you are, Madam.
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This was on my whiny ass Gore article (the Nobel)...fell free to trounce anytime!
I'm constantly amused when a secularist, agnostic, anti-Christian, non-believer, etc., etc., etc. compares the Bible and /or Christianity to Islam.
This moron's lack of knowledge about the Bible and his dimmwit view of Christianity is as common as unsolicited dog poop. I make it a practice not to step in it when it is encountered, if ya take my meaning.
I salute SFBert and Ben for their intellectual insights and patience in making the thread a good read, another reason why I refrained from continuing my dialogue.
Excellent write up Snooper.
Perhaps my age is showing as my patience with these childish wonderments wears thin.
I no longer feel compelled to educate or debate these idiotic fools. Instead I'd just as soon step in the aforementioned poop. At least that can be cleaned off my boots with a little soap and water.
halle burton....the "force" is with you and just as long as you believe in some science fiction story...your future is all too predictable by those of us who deal with reality.
Oh and uh, Darth Vader is gay.......
all of you that have access, feel free to follow suit.
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Jeez raoula, I thought perhaps you dropped dead or had been thrown in jail.
Ah well. As usual your insignificant rantings and your arrogant stupidity muddies an otherwise good article. Typical of your insanity.
Do you have any clues today?
Reading your drivel is actually good for my BP. Laughter is a sure cure for most things and in this case it has done wonders for mine.
I think, however, that I made a mistake on this particular thread by lumping SBert and the troll together in one package, because of their neverending and rather obtuse debate.
However, since then I have learned a few things about SBert, and now after reading over their whole conversation I see that I had him pegged completely wrong.
I applaud people like him and Spree and Miss Beth, and sometimes Snooper too, for having the patience and intellectual integrity to argue with these people at length. It is because of their patience and forbearance that we get to see how they think -- and this knowledge is invaluable.
I've said this before and it's still true -- I could never run my own website. I'd shut down the first lib that came on after one sentence. And I'd never let them on again. I'd shut off anyone who even attempted to criticize America or undermine our moral standing in the world.
After a couple of days, I'd only have about two or three regular viewers.
LOL
Live and learn. That's what it's all about, isn't it?
LOLOL
PS: Tell Dean that if he thinks he's running out of patience now, wait till he gets to be my age!
IHHR
Does Islam Need to Be Reformed?
You should lead "Americans for Muslim genocide"
Nice try at spin but I cannot be spun.
I have seen the elephants in most of the "stan" countries and they are all alike.
Kill ALL that don't believe as they do.
Nice religion.
If you cannot tell, here is a hint; while you are trying to reform a religion of death and genocide, we will continue to kill all Jihadim. It will make your job easier.
I cannot afford to play Mr Nice Guy while morons give my country away that I fought and bled and killed for.
I swore an Oath of Service and to me, that Oath is with me until the day I die.
Our enemies are here...now...today...some foreign and some domestic; and ReidCo and his gaggle of jerks are among the enemies within.
IHHR
I don't know, ask Snooper.
LOLOL
rogerguy
“Islam ... needs ... [to be] eradicated from the face of the universe”
“a religion that preaches and practices murder as a tenet of faith ... Kill ALL that don't believe as they do”
Are you familiar with the term ‘pathological projection’?
“while you are trying to reform a religion of death and genocide, we will continue to kill all Jihadim. It will make your job easier.”
As a matter of fact, it will. Providing, of course, you understand the difference between Muslims and Jihadim. Unfortunately, people like you usually talk a lot, without actually doing anything.
Unfortunately, you are talking out of your ass so much, you don't know which hand to wipe with, do you?
Anyway, you accuse me of projection and if you knew anything about me, as stated in my profile that you clearly haven't read, you would know why I am LMAOAY and ROF!
Go projectile your bullshit someplace else.
And I do understand and know the difference between a Muslim and a Jihadim. A Muslim is an apostate in accordance with your own KOO-KOO-Ran, and a Jihadim is a strict follower of the pedophile and scumbag murderer Muhamoody Nutbar...Allahakbar and all that shit.
Some religion you get there, slick. Cherry pick all you want out of your own Hadith. Makes no difference to me.
Oh. Yeah. one more thing. I have done more than my fair share of eliminating Jihadim, thank you very much and you are welcome.
Over to you.
LOL
Thanks for the confirmation. You really were too easy to sniff out.
I could care less about what jihadi scum licker thinks of me or you.
Go get your goats...they got loose.
Former HUMINT. 'Nuf said. I will not go into the details of such former activities, for the obvious reasons. In a nutshell, I have been fighting terrorists and the ideals of said bodies of murderers since 1974. I "retired" (once in never out) in 2004. 28 of those years were in the service of my country, The United States of America. Now that I am a "civilian", I continue the battles here in the blogosphere and letters, dispatches, emails and faxes. I have determined that the battle(s) begin here, Stateside. We, the members of the Silent Majority, can be silent no more. The Leftinistra have secured and entrenched themselves within the alleged Main Stream Media now renamed as The Lame Stream Media or as I like to call them, The LSD Press. As a friend of mine from Indiana states, "The Silent Majority must stand up and 'Do The Right Thing' and overcome the 'Vocal Minority'." It can be done. We just need to get up off our complacent rear ends and fight for that which we know in our hearts is right. If we do not, we automatically fall for and support that which we know in our hearts to be wrong.
We can always tell from the emotionally weak outburts.
Run along now troll and stop impersonating real muslim reform agents.
LOL!
Trolls.
Leftinistra, pure and simple.
The troll is lamely trying to discredit the group so this troll is a Jihadi troll.
Reminds me of draoula.
I guess ITS mommy kicked IT out of the house in Canada.
You know what your problem is? You make conclusions based on your assumptions, instead of facts. I can easily prove that I am with the Muslims Against Sharia and make you look foolish. Oh, wait, you have already done it all by yourself. Don't you understand that statements about eradicating Islam make you look like an idiot?
I'm surprised you can still breath with your nose buried so far up Snooper's ass. You might consider changing your name to Snooper's Lackey.
Your genre of fool are really, well, foolish.
Don't you have some goats to screw?
You know, I had linked you to my site--because I thought you were a group truly intent on reforming your murderous belief of following a maniacal pedophile. I've since taken that link off since it appears you only wish to ridicule those of us that see the true tenets of islam (yes, lower case on purpose).
By your little diatribe here, I can see you're truly not interested in reforming your ideological cult.
In your list of prominent muslim "reformists", I don't see a whole lot of the ones making a difference and exposing islam for it's true agenda--people like Brigitte Gabriel or Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
Guess I gave you too much credit when I should have been listening to those that actually lived it, and those teaching the rest of us about your cult.
After their childish comments above and that stupid video I'm afraid I'm saying bye-bye to MAS. I'll stick with Whalid Fares, Brigitte Gabriel, Hirsi Ali and the other known quantities, too.
And by the way, when it comes to deciding who I'm going to believe in an argument -- Snooper or some mysterious unknown quantity, it's not much of a decision. LOL
As far as being Snooper's lackey -- if that's the worst thing anybody can think up to accuse me of, then that's fine by me. What a dumb thing to say.
It must be a fool from CAIR.
Miss Beth,
The video is posted to expose the ignorance of people much like yourself. Our intention is to reform Islam, not to destroy it. Idiots who call for eradication of Islam achieve only two things: radicalizing Muslims & give credence to Islamofascist claims that not just radical Islam, but Islam as a whole is under attack. But apparently people on this forum are too stupid to understand that.
"In your list of prominent muslim "reformists", I don't see a whole lot of the ones making a difference and exposing islam for it's true agenda--people like Brigitte Gabriel or Ayaan Hirsi Ali."
The list that we have is called "Prominent Moderate Muslims," which means it is a list of Muslims. Ali says that she is not a Muslim anymore and Gabriel never was. Just because we agree with most of those ladies say, it doesn't make them Muslim.
So if you have at least half a brain, consider who helps more in the fight against Islamofascism: us exposing radical Muslims and making fun of Islamophobes or you indiscriminately denigrating all Muslims?
Snooper's lackey,
Dr. Phares is not a Muslim. Just because someone is an Arab, it doesn't make him a Muslim.
Snooper,
"It must be a fool from CAIR."
If you weren't such a moron, you'd might have noticed that half of our blog is dedicated to exposing CAIR as Islamofascists. Some "INT"! The only thing a chicken shit can do when his lies are exposed is to block the truth.
When we get done with the Jihadim, we will come for the rest.
So, you offer disinformation for CAIR?
CAIR like MooSlimes as well.
I have faced your kind in battle before.
One more won't bather me.
Have a nut and don't forget which hand to use to wipe yourself off with if we ever meet.
Dr. Pharis has more credibility in his little finger than you have shown in your whole childish and insulting rants. And Brigitte Gabriel has personal integrity and real life experience fighting against Islam which I doubt very much that you can match.
Be that as it may, my final reply to you is this. You're a jerk, and I don't waste my time arguing with jerks.
Look what came to my private email from "Khalim Massoud" :
"What's the point of your stupid little video?"
Why don't you ask the guys at Terror-Free Oil who provided this video to us? The same Terror-Free Oil whose spokesman Joe Kaufman (http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/staff/
JoeKaufman.php) just happen to run Americans Against Hate (http://www.americansagainsthate.org/images/
AAH_Logo_200.gif) and CAIRwatch (http://www.americansagainsthate.org/images/
CW_Logo_200.gif), whose logos you display on your site. Maybe you should take them down also.
"You know, I had linked you to my site--because I thought you were a group truly intent on reforming your murderous belief of following a maniacal pedophile. I've since taken that link off since it appears you only wish to ridicule those of us that see the true tenets of islam (yes, lower case on purpose)."
You either enjoy making an ass out of yourself or you are trying to score some points with genocidal rednecks. Aren't you a little too old to succumb to peer pressure?
"By your little diatribe here, I can see you're truly not interested in reforming your ideological cult."
Do you really expect us to sit back and listen to degenerates who call for destructions of Islam? How would you feel about someone explaining to you why Christianity must be eradicated? Why don't you take a step back and see how dumb and bigoted your statements are?
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I answered him in PFCV--y'all should have the reply soon.
Such a persuasive way to show us how truly interested in reform they are. If we don't buy their line hook, line and sinker, look how quickly they stoop to abusive behavior--as the genocidal, maniacal pedophile leader advocates.
I find it curious that ITS homepage is Hotmail and IT said IT was with the MudSlimes group.
Not hardly.
Islam SUBSCRIBES to kill ALL non-Islam believers.
What shallow and fettered morons these jerks are indeed.
All was OK until the fool started supporting Pelosi.
That settled it for me right then and there.
Your little temper tantrum and hissy fit, complete with name calling, have done nothing except expose you for the "front" group you are. By luring people in with your claims to reform sharia law (which, incidentally isn't codified), you then show how intolerant you are for people's divergent views on the enemy we are facing.
As for Christianity, Christianity "grew up" and matured centuries ago; further Christianity doesn't promote violence, hatred, zealotry and conversion at the point of a sword. Your own koran promotes just such values. There is no difference between what you term "radical islam" and a religion of peace, as you claim and your own actions both directed at my personal email and the comments left at Snooper's site show this.
As for my site and the buttons I have displayed, you, Khalim, will not presume to dictate what I display or not display, simply because I'm female and you think your misogynistic ideas of "ruling" me will work. No male rules me, period. Other than God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Ever hear of them? Religion of love, not hate?
Your own actions have confirmed the alleged "bigotry" you claim I exhibit. Should you wish me to listen to you, then show yourself worthy of my time. Otherwise, you are no different than the maniacal pedophile you claim to follow. And, prove that's incorrect. You may not like people pointing out the facts in such bald language, but you see, political correctness isn't part of my problem and I call a spade a spade. If you don't like it, tough.
Prove you're adult enough to carry on a reasoned discussion or begone with you. I don't have time for radicals such as yourself.
Nowhere in islam have I seen such "proof" in the unprovable, no miracles, nothing to show any divinity anywhere--other than a sun-baked madman who had alleged "revelations" allowing him to engage in despicable behavior. Someone more like David Koresh or Jim Jones rather than Jesus Christ, SAVIOUR.
Now he's going to start calling me Miss Beth's lackey -- lolol
All kidding aside, however, my office has had muslim male clients come in occassionally--and they expected their consultations to be "free", even though they'd been informed of the cost, and when they decided they didn't want to deal with me, as a woman my moonbat boss had an absolutely delightful time "taking off my leash" and letting me have at them. He loves seeing me tear disrespectful, arrogant assholes--even if our politics are divergent. He also got really irritated when setting their appointment and they attempted to dictate to HIM when THEY were going to see HIM based on their "prayer" times.
Not a good way to start off a legal relationship with an attorney.
LOL
rogerguy
His "educated" response to me is once again full of bullshit and name calling. As if that's the way to win friends and influence people..and he can't even see the ridiculous premise he spouts from--responding to Christianity's maturing, he responds with country clubs--yet when told Christianity is not violent brings up the inquisition--duh, that's what Christianity matured from!
Let me print the whole thing: to follow next response
Your little temper tantrum and hissy fit, complete with name calling,"
If you look at the whole conversation you can see that what you call "little temper tantrum and hissy fit" was an appropriate reaction to a very bigoted statement.
"have done nothing except expose you for the "front" group you are."
"front group" for what? For Jihadniks? The Jihadniks would want you to believe that all Muslims are the same and they advocate Islamic supremacy, while we do the opposite.
"By luring people in with your claims to reform sharia law (which, incidentally isn't codified), you then show how intolerant you are for people's divergent views on the enemy we are facing."
Intolerant? Adverse reaction to wholesale eradication of my coreligionists and me is a display of intolerance? Are you really that dense?
"As for Christianity, Christianity "grew up" and matured centuries ago;"
Jews were not allowed into Christian country clubs decades ago, not centuries.
"further Christianity doesn't promote violence, hatred, zealotry and conversion at the point of a sword."
Not anymore. Remember the Inquisition?
"Your own koran promotes just such values."
That's why we advocate for removal of those values: http://www.reformislam.org/verses.php
"There is no difference between what you term "radical islam" and a religion of peace, as you claim and your own actions both directed at my personal email and the comments left at Snooper's site show this."
You must be not that bright if you consider my actions unprovoked. Besides calling someone a moron as a reply to a genocidal proposal would be considered a very measured response by most people with brains.
"As for my site and the buttons I have displayed, you, Khalim, will not presume to dictate what I display or not display, simply because I'm female and you think your misogynistic ideas of "ruling" me will work. No male rules me, period. Other than God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Ever hear of them? Religion of love, not hate?"
Does being a female give you an excuse to be stupid? I was just explaining where that "stupid" video came from. Unlike you, we have a lot of respect for TFO, AAH, & CW, and would not consider a video recommended by them stupid.
"Your own actions have confirmed the alleged "bigotry" you claim I exhibit."
Care to provide an example of my bigotry to substantiate your moronic claim?
"Should you wish me to listen to you, then show yourself worthy of my time. Otherwise, you are no different than the maniacal pedophile you claim to follow. And, prove that's incorrect. You may not like people pointing out the facts in such bald language, but you see, political correctness isn't part of my problem and I call a spade a spade. If you don't like it, tough."
What facts? I don't think we disagree on a single FACT regarding the need for Islam to be reformed. However, you seem to be OK with the statement that Islam needs to be eradicated. So, how does that make me the bigot?
"Prove you're adult enough to carry on a reasoned discussion or begone with you. I don't have time for radicals such as yourself."
And what exactly makes me a radical? My opposition to being eradicated? And your not opposing a genocidal proposition makes you a moderate? Maybe you should look up the definitions of those words. Just answer one question. How are you any different from Muslims who do not challenge Islamists who call for eradication/subjugation of Christians?
As I said when you can discuss things as an adult, I will take the time to discuss things with you. When every response you have to me is laced with abuse, you're not worth my time.
As to the maturation of Christianity, country clubs may have been decades ago; you, however, missed the point by miles and that was Christianity's maturation from the violence of the Inquisition:
You have yet to show one shred of true divinity, any sort of miracle, in short, anything, to show islam is a true religious belief and not the maniacal ramblings of a violent, misogynistic, maniacal pedophile or to show me any redeeming facets of this cult. You dance around the subject while continuing your diatribe, hissy fit and temper tantrum. Prove to me islam is something worthy of being respected--I have seen nothing yet to warrant the least shred of respect.
Should you truly wish to reform your cultic faith, you would have to throw out the entire koran and start over. Even our Bible only suffered the removal of 7 books at the hands of Martin Luther, not the entire radicalization of the faith. Show you're capable of arguing apologetics in a respectful manner and give me a reason to believe islam ISN'T simply a cult along the lines of Jim Jones and David Koresh. If that's bigotry, so be it. Prove me wrong, with hard, salient FACTS, not rambling abuse.
I will not be bullied, particularly by someone who is showing themself to be no more mature than my 2 year old grandson not getting his way. You wish to discuss, you do it with respect, PERIOD.
Got it?
This knucklehead has shown that he doesn't possess these abilities.
His thinking is of the past only in regards to Christianity, that's why he brings it up.
What can you expect of someone who belongs to a religion the prohibits growth of the individual?
I find it curious, Miss Beth that the troll contacted a woman via email and this isn't your blog. Imagine that?
You touched a nerve Miss Beth and have thoroughly trounced this troll. GREAT job!!
I also find it curious that their alleged religion that we all know to be a cult is trying to remove the passages in their "Bible" and how can anyone remove select and cherry picked verses and still maintain a divine "finding"? The answer is, they cannot.
The pedophile was smoking too much of something, had a hallucination and decided to murder everyone that didn't agree with his drug-induced vision.
As for the Crusades, they were in retaliation to the murder of Christians by the Islamic Jihadists of days of yore.
Islam is a cult of pieces and NOT a religion of peace.
IT also has the same markings of the troll draoula in that it hates Miss Beth as well and always tries to debase her. IT never learns.
IHHR
I have had email correspondence with Khalim Massoud and have seen his comments in many blogs. In no prior case have I seen him hurl scatological or bestial references. I find those to be very much out of character, so that I must assume that either he was impersonated or his comments were edited with sarcastic intent.
I am surprised that nobody bothered to point out the cognitive dissonance involved in selectively accepting //rejecting Allah's statements as revealed in the Qur'an.
Neither is reform Islamically possible. I have previously pointed out the basis for that statement, and it is fully documented in my flier: Can Islam Be Reformed?, available at Crusader's Armory.
So long as Islam retains its absolutism, literalism, supremacism, triumplahism and mandate to conquer the world, it remains intolerable and we need to make it extinct.
That is not a call to genocide. It is a call to emancipate Allah's slaves from its yoke of slavery by inducing mass apostasy. There is more than one way of skinning a skunk, but all practical methods result in the death of the skunk.
No, a holy book--a TRUE holy book--cannot be excised and shredded and still remain the "Word of God" as they seem to think. While the Bible had 7 books removed during the Reformation, it wasn't "shredded" and the "meat" of the message was unaltered. It's not possible to do that with the koran, when every chapter and verse is riddled with violence and hatred.
Also -- I don't see too many 'weak links' around here. LOL
I'm really not sure who this guy is, but I AM sure he's a jerk.
I find it interesting this particular Khalim Massoud had my gmail address AND had visited my site trying to dictate to me--when, if you click on homepage at the moment it takes you to a BLANK page. That little fact has not escaped me.
Further, a group who truly wanted to persuade someone to their point of view, no matter how misguided, generally isn't going to stoop to this level for "converts".
If you know the "true" Khalim Massoud, please let him know what's going on here and find out if he's truly the author of this filth.
Otherwise--I think it's one more incarnation of Roberta.
It surely has GOT to be draouls the fraud "woman" from Canada.
I banned the first one and then the next one said IT was posting FOR the first one and ITS homepage is hotmail.com
The troll is a fraud and all communication with the little shit should cease.
"I am missing the point? That's coming from someone who claims that her religion is better than somebody else's? Islamic fundamentalists want Islamic supremacy based on their belief that Islam is superior to other religions. We want religious equality based on our belief that religion is a private matter of every individual. But since you are too damn stupid to understand it, I see no point in continuing this conversation. Enjoy your echo chamber, but don't try to convince yourself that you do anything useful to defeat Islamofascism. Sitting around bitching about Islam may feel good but it does nothing."
I guess Roberta's mommy's milk is still too sour.
One thing I keep forgetting to ask--if this group is all-fired for reform and "moderate" muslims--why do we not hear more from them publicly condemning the "radicals"? I never heard of them until they appeared on my blog one day...why aren't they more vocal and publicity minded if they are truly "moderate"? Why aren't their voices heard in condemnation?
That's definitely something to ruminate over.
Further, I have banned "them" from posting.
I guess they are scrambling for another IP to use.
Speaking of which, these are the two they used.
68.96.25.80
68.13.165.97
Specific denunciation of terrorist groups would not accomplish anything. Putting a permanent end to teaching & preaching the Jihad fard on a global scale could have a very great effect.
I have reason to believe that the group includes at least 3 men, one of them in Russia and one in Sweden. They bought their own domain name and used
the services of a professional web designer and hosting company.
They are going against the grain of Islam; what they are trying to do is against the rules laid down in the Qur'an & Sunnah. It could easily get them killed and they are investing real money in the project. I do not have any reason to assume them to be excrement agitators. I do have cause to believe them to be sincere.
That is what started this whole mess.
I am GLAD to hear they are not trolls and I will remove the bans directly.
ANY support for Pelosi will be met with nastiness.
My gloves are off and while my son is overseas following MY footsteps, I will hold no punches.
Please help them to understand that the ilk of Pelosi do NOT support our troops and 99.9% of the time, the mutants that come on here PRAISING Pelosi are trolls and I have had Jihadi trolls on here as well.
I have ZERO tolerance levels in this area.
However, calling me stupid, moronic, and various other names when I have not stooped to name calling and have asked legitimate questions, doesn't give me a lot of reason to respect them. And it still doesn't explain how they got my gmail address and went to my site when what is up now goes to a blank page.
I still have not seen anything legitimate in their claimed beliefs to believe it's anything other than a cult and they have danced around the issue and the question without answering it. If they cannot answer the question, why don't they simply convert to a faith they can answer questions about?
And why single out the female to contact directly? Not to mention accusing me of advocating genocide.
If this Khalim is sincere then he needs to back it up several steps, get off his high horse and speak to me as a person, not as an object, and do it with respect, rather than the way he "spoke" to and addressed me. And he owes me a massive apology for the name calling--if you look through the posts, not once did I stoop to his level of disrespect that he JUMPED to in addressing me. For that he should be extremely ashamed for he's given lie to all his "words" of "change" and treated me as the perception is of the islamic women are treated.
It's that simple. Is he man enough to do that or is he going to run and act as if I wronged him--as he's already done.
The poor lad simply lost it which is in no way a viable excuse or reason.
It's not likely he's going to win me over to his way of thinking without massive proof now that he hasn't given lie to the words on his site, simply by the way he treated me. He's treated me as a jihadist treated me yet he doesn't want to be lumped in with them.
Then he needs to prove it and that's going to be extremely difficult at this point.
Otherwise, I stand by my contention he is acting no better than my 2 year old grandson having a massive tantrum because he couldn't bully a mere female into buying what he was selling with no facts, no proof, nothing--just supposed to accept it based on his alleged male superiority and because he says so and if I don't then I'm just a stupid, moronic, genocidal redneck advocating genocide and sitting around bitching.
I'm supposed to respect THAT?
Nope--apologies are in order and if they aren't forthcoming, well, then we know his true caliber.
He has some apologies to place.
As you stated, if they don't come, IT ain't welcome here.
The Pelosi supporting said it all for me.
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