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RAWSTORY COMMENTS PROMOTE HUGE SPENDING FOR ROADS/BRIDGES
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"The organization estimated that 1.6 trillion dollars needed to be spent over a five-year period to bring US infrastructure up to good condition."Sorry, we NEED that money to fight them tahrrrists over in I-rak. Every great nation has fallen apart because of numerous ill-conceived foreign wars. Why should we be any exception?
CB | Email | Homepage | 08.02.07 - 3:31 pm
The terroists don't have to come over here to kill us. They can wait for Bush's incompetence to do it for them.With Bush running the country, you don't have to worry about suicide bombers, just falling bridges and hurricanes. Not to mention Chinese imports.
skyreader7 | Email | Homepage | 08.02.07 - 3:46 pm
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Operation Mochingbird:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/
anal...ockingbird.html
http://
www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...mockingbird.htm
http://
www.whatreallyhappened.co...ockingbird.html
http://educationforum.ipbhost.co...?
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http://portland.indymedia.org/en...03/
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During a time of national emergency, our mainstream media is controlled by Department of Defense or outsourced Non-Government Organizations [Council on Foreign Affairs/American Enterprise Institute/Brookings/Heritage/etc.].
The 24/7 Military Ops News flood's purpose is to allow only one repeated explanation for what caused an emergency and how to handle it [just like on 9/11, 7/7, Tillman, Lynch, Abu Graib, etc.]. The method is to repeat the same thing over and over again without allowing dissenting voices to get in the way of the programming. In MK Ultra programming victims, they are often found listening to the same song over and over again for 20-40 hours straight, this is what we ave been subjected to with the bridge collapse information. The mainstream media has shown us the same visual of collapsed bridge on at least half the screen for over 24 hours on 4 stations.
This type of total spectrum media control can only be accomplished via a military type operation. The money and power it takes to do this points to the same elites that controlled the information dissemination from 9/11. This psychological warfare against the American people is already having an effect judging by the Raw Story comments.
The Deomocrats will be engaging in the Guns vs. Butter economic conversation. This is the economic theory that says we cannot afford but military and domestic spending and we therefore must give up one for the other. It revolves around the notion that we are powerless and only federal elites can make these important decisions. They therefore switch every 8-12 years from one to the other as we slowly become more indebted to the Federal Reserve [look at the past 70 years and see if it is true].
So what does it mean when the elites shift government spending to domestic programs? Well it allows for more infiltration of communist and socialist selloffs like education, infrastructure to a NAU type model, socialized medicine, even more control over the media, the loss of even more freedoms as we need to think of the masses rather than ourselves. Huge increase in taxes, national identification and confiscation of guns will also be needed as we are no longer free individuals but state and federal workers.
Since Hillary is so far ahead in the Democratic polls, she will probably start being seen as the SOLUTION in this staged CHAOS plan. Funny, she helped be the solution in the last staed CHAOS plan [9/11-iraq war and less civil rights].
Look at the obvious way these controlled national tragedies get set up:
War on Terrorism had a progression:
-93 bombing
-embassy bombings
-cole
-So when 9/11 came around, we never thought anything but Bin Laden
This new Domestic Spending Initiative also has a progression:
-Strapped state/infrastructure funding because Bush spends it all on foreign policy
-Berkely Bridge
-Semi was pinned a few days ago
-various reports that infrastructure is not maintained
-So when the Minnesota Bridge was demolished, Chris Dodd and other puppets could recite some historical evidence and we would believe it without investigating further.
Guess the next one will be aliens. I can see the RawStory comments now..."No one was thinking about the aliens. There were bills in congress to fund the alien research but we were too focused on rebuilding infrastructure to do anything about it."
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Personally I agree with the gist of many of the comments, that we have spent trillions and killed over a million for no reason whatsoever, however just like Hitler was a solution to the desperate times that Gemans were going through in the late 1920s early 1930s, this solution may make us worse of and especially if it is ignited via the control of media. We need to take media power away from the government. This power allows for total spectrum information control at the expense of free independent discourse. It also can prevent independent investigations into local, state, and national disasters. Disasters that sometimes seem to be staged events. We are then subjected to mass mind control via the MSM and now progressive blogs that embed the connections into our subconsious as we slowly move toward complete slavery.
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Wow, look at this loony idiot. He apparently thinks that Alex Jones is a neocon and his videos are nauseating. He apparently has a vendetta against Alex.
His video, "What the Hell Did Alex Jones Ever Know?":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h?
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if name sane101 there, may have to open and close app couple times till a request to add to friends pops up.. once that works can go from there.
sorry
gonna nag ya into it I swear lol...
you want documentaries and other great stuff?
jump on in!
yup, saw other day you re-posted all his toilet flushings, he's just another rich to me.
nice thing about FT chat, can kickban those types 
hold on i wanna deal with this steve bs
mornin'.. try again lol..
looking like servers there are weak tonight maybe too, might be better in the morning, dont stop trying tho, its usually excellent.
heck, this page is a little sticky too.
messages can be a little sticky sometimes lol
tried sane101 for ya, try disconnect/connect upper left.. might pop up then
that the nickname ?
check 4 me
used to do winmx, but it blows anymore.
we set up to a bit more secure on top of all that too.
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i chor do
you can also set up to run through a proxy server.. can be a little slower, and some proxy servers are monitored too. peer guardian keep most all the snoopers off, and its really rare to even get hits there.
we set up to a bit more secure on top of all that too.
users dont see each others IP# unless you send a note to someone and tick a box to include IP#, it's 128 bit encrypted so its reasonably secure too.
I know if I tried I could possibly grab someones IP# .. most dont know those games tho
this thing uses a protocol that sends ips got anything that uses http protocol?
a) pick a nickname (to be ditched soon)
b) write down youre password so you can change nickname
c) holler in here that nickname so I can add ya
d) we do namechange and other details in there.
whered ya go ? lol
trouble with the install there ?
no, but if you can make yours sane101 right now, holler when youre in, I can add to friends, it'll be the name popping up, button lower right, accept friend, accept invite... then we set you up better
ur nick the same?
once we got ya in there we change youre nickname and re-add again for anonymity
www.filetopia.org
download it and install, use same nickname if possible.. like sane101 (write down youre password!!) I can add ya to friends for chat.
the download says 124 days, you got some secret site for it?
yup
this 10 ? lol
NWO did 9/11.
NWO = Rothschild & Rockefeller.
USA today = Perle, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Feith, Chertoff...
Bring them down.
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4 guys??????
4 fucking guys????
and feith does not count he is missing so much grey matter that he is a chimp at best.
NWO did 9/11.
NWO = Rothschild & Rockefeller.
USA today = Perle, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Feith, Chertoff...
Bring them down.
A Modest Proposal By Jonathan Swift (1729)
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For Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland From Being Aburden to Their Parents or Country, and For Making Them Beneficial to The Public
It is a melancholy object to those who walk through this great town or travel in the country, when they see the streets, the roads, and cabin doors, crowded with beggars of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six children, all in rags and importuning every passenger for an alms. These mothers, instead of being able to work for their honest livelihood, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg sustenance for their helpless infants: who as they grow up either turn thieves for want of work, or leave their dear native country to fight for the Pretender in Spain, or sell themselves to the Barbadoes.
I think it is agreed by all parties that this prodigious number of children in the arms, or on the backs, or at the heels of their mothers, and frequently of their fathers, is in the present deplorable state of the kingdom a very great additional grievance; and, therefore, whoever could find out a fair, cheap, and easy method of making these children sound, useful members of the commonwealth, would deserve so well of the public as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the nation.
But my intention is very far from being confined to provide only for the children of professed beggars; it is of a much greater extent, and shall take in the whole number of infants at a certain age who are born of parents in effect as little able to support them as those who demand our charity in the streets.
As to my own part, having turned my thoughts for many years upon this important subject, and maturely weighed the several schemes of other projectors, I have always found them grossly mistaken in the computation. It is true, a child just dropped from its dam may be supported by her milk for a solar year, with little other nourishment; at most not above the value of 2s., which the mother may certainly get, or the value in scraps, by her lawful occupation of begging; and it is exactly at one year old that I propose to provide for them in such a manner as instead of being a charge upon their parents or the parish, or wanting food and raiment for the rest of their lives, they shall on the contrary contribute to the feeding, and partly to the clothing, of many thousands.
There is likewise another great advantage in my scheme, that it will prevent those voluntary abortions, and that horrid practice of women murdering their bastard children, alas! too frequent among us! sacrificing the poor innocent babes I doubt more to avoid the expense than the shame, which would move tears and pity in the most savage and inhuman breast.
The number of souls in this kingdom being usually reckoned one million and a half, of these I calculate there may be about two hundred thousand couple whose wives are breeders; from which number I subtract thirty thousand couples who are able to maintain their own children, although I apprehend there cannot be so many, under the present distresses of the kingdom; but this being granted, there will remain an hundred and seventy thousand breeders. I again subtract fifty thousand for those women who miscarry, or whose children die by accident or disease within the year. There only remains one hundred and twenty thousand children of poor parents annually born. The question therefore is, how this number shall be reared and provided for, which, as I have already said, under the present situation of affairs, is utterly impossible by all the methods hitherto proposed. For we can neither employ them in handicraft or agriculture; we neither build houses (I mean in the country) nor cultivate land: they can very seldom pick up a livelihood by stealing, till they arrive at six years old, except where they are of towardly parts, although I confess they learn the rudiments much earlier, during which time, they can however be properly looked upon only as probationers, as I have been informed by a principal gentleman in the county of Cavan, who protested to me that he never knew above one or two instances under the age of six, even in a part of the kingdom so renowned for the quickest proficiency in that art.
I am assured by our merchants, that a boy or a girl before twelve years old is no salable commodity; and even when they come to this age they will not yield above three pounds, or three pounds and half-a-crown at most on the exchange; which cannot turn to account either to the parents or kingdom, the charge of nutriment and rags having been at least four times that value.
I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.
I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout.
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I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that of the hundred and twenty thousand children already computed, twenty thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one-fourth part to be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle or swine; and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in the sale to the persons of quality and fortune through the kingdom; always advising the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to render them plump and fat for a good table. A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter.
I have reckoned upon a medium that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds, and in a solar year, if tolerably nursed, increaseth to 28 pounds.
I grant this food will be somewhat dear, and therefore very proper for landlords, who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have the best title to the children.
Infant's flesh will be in season throughout the year, but more plentiful in March, and a little before and after; for we are told by a grave author, an eminent French physician, that fish being a prolific diet, there are more children born in Roman Catholic countries about nine months after Lent than at any other season; therefore, reckoning a year after Lent, the markets will be more glutted than usual, because the number of popish infants is at least three to one in this kingdom: and therefore it will have one other collateral advantage, by lessening the number of papists among us.
I have already computed the charge of nursing a beggar's child (in which list I reckon all cottagers, laborers, and four-fifths of the farmers) to be about two shillings per annum, rags included; and I believe no gentleman would repine to give ten shillings for the carcass of a good fat child, which, as I have said, will make four dishes of excellent nutritive meat, when he hath only some particular friend or his own family to dine with him. Thus the squire will learn to be a good landlord, and grow popular among his tenants; the mother will have eight shillings net profit, and be fit for work till she produces another child.
Those who are more thrifty (as I must confess the times require) may flay the carcass; the skin of which artificially dressed will make admirable gloves for ladies, and summer boots for fine gentlemen.
As to our city of Dublin, shambles may be appointed for this purpose in the most convenient parts of it, and butchers we may be assured will not be wanting; although I rather recommend buying the children alive, and dressing them hot from the knife, as we do roasting pigs.
A very worthy person, a true lover of his country, and whose virtues I highly esteem, was lately pleased in discoursing on this matter to offer a refinement upon my scheme. He said that many gentlemen of this kingdom, having of late destroyed their deer, he conceived that the want of venison might be well supplied by the bodies of young lads and maidens, not exceeding fourteen years of age nor under twelve; so great a number of both sexes in every country being now ready to starve for want of work and service; and these to be disposed of by their parents, if alive, or otherwise by their nearest relations. But with due deference to so excellent a friend and so deserving a patriot, I cannot be altogether in his sentiments; for as to the males, my American acquaintance assured me, from frequent experience, that their flesh was generally tough and lean, like that of our schoolboys by continual exercise, and their taste disagreeable; and to fatten them would not answer the charge. Then as to the females, it would, I think, with humble submission be a loss to the public, because they soon would become breeders themselves; and besides, it is not improbable that some scrupulous people might be apt to censure such a practice (although indeed very unjustly), as a little bordering upon cruelty; which, I confess, hath always been with me the strongest objection against any project, however so well intended.
But in order to justify my friend, he confessed that this expedient was put into his head by the famous Psalmanazar, a native of the island Formosa, who came from thence to London above twenty years ago, and in conversation told my friend, that in his country when any young person happened to be put to death, the executioner sold the carcass to persons of quality as a prime dainty; and that in his time the body of a plump girl of fifteen, who was crucified for an attempt to poison the emperor, was sold to his imperial majesty's prime minister of state, and other great mandarins of the court, in joints from the gibbet, at four hundred crowns. Neither indeed can I deny, that if the same use were made of several plump young girls in this town, who without one single groat to their fortunes cannot stir abroad without a chair, and appear at playhouse and assemblies in foreign fineries which they never will pay for, the kingdom would not be the worse.
Some persons of a desponding spirit are in great concern about that vast number of poor people, who are aged, diseased, or maimed, and I have been desired to employ my thoughts what course may be taken to ease the nation of so grievous an encumbrance. But I am not in the least pain upon that matter, because it is very well known that they are every day dying and rotting by cold and famine, and filth and vermin, as fast as can be reasonably expected. And as to the young laborers, they are now in as hopeful a condition; they cannot get work, and consequently pine away for want of nourishment, to a degree that if at any time they are accidentally hired to common labor, they have not strength to perform it; and thus the country and themselves are happily delivered from the evils to come.
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I have too long digressed, and therefore shall return to my subject. I think the advantages by the proposal which I have made are obvious and many, as well as of the highest importance.
For first, as I have already observed, it would greatly lessen the number of papists, with whom we are yearly overrun, being the principal breeders of the nation as well as our most dangerous enemies; and who stay at home on purpose with a design to deliver the kingdom to the Pretender, hoping to take their advantage by the absence of so many good protestants, who have chosen rather to leave their country than stay at home and pay tithes against their conscience to an episcopal curate.
Secondly, The poorer tenants will have something valuable of their own, which by law may be made liable to distress and help to pay their landlord's rent, their corn and cattle being already seized, and money a thing unknown.
Thirdly, Whereas the maintenance of an hundred thousand children, from two years old and upward, cannot be computed at less than ten shillings a-piece per annum, the nation's stock will be thereby increased fifty thousand pounds per annum, beside the profit of a new dish introduced to the tables of all gentlemen of fortune in the kingdom who have any refinement in taste. And the money will circulate among ourselves, the goods being entirely of our own growth and manufacture.
Fourthly, The constant breeders, beside the gain of eight shillings sterling per annum by the sale of their children, will be rid of the charge of maintaining them after the first year.
Fifthly, This food would likewise bring great custom to taverns; where the vintners will certainly be so prudent as to procure the best receipts for dressing it to perfection, and consequently have their houses frequented by all the fine gentlemen, who justly value themselves upon their knowledge in good eating: and a skilful cook, who understands how to oblige his guests, will contrive to make it as expensive as they please.
Sixthly, This would be a great inducement to marriage, which all wise nations have either encouraged by rewards or enforced by laws and penalties. It would increase the care and tenderness of mothers toward their children, when they were sure of a settlement for life to the poor babes, provided in some sort by the public, to their annual profit instead of expense. We should see an honest emulation among the married women, which of them could bring the fattest child to the market. Men would become as fond of their wives during the time of their pregnancy as they are now of their mares in foal, their cows in calf, their sows when they are ready to farrow; nor offer to beat or kick them (as is too frequent a practice) for fear of a miscarriage.
Many other advantages might be enumerated. For instance, the addition of some thousand carcasses in our exportation of barreled beef, the propagation of swine's flesh, and improvement in the art of making good bacon, so much wanted among us by the great destruction of pigs, too frequent at our tables; which are no way comparable in taste or magnificence to a well-grown, fat, yearling child, which roasted whole will make a considerable figure at a lord mayor's feast or any other public entertainment. But this and many others I omit, being studious of brevity.
Supposing that one thousand families in this city, would be constant customers for infants flesh, besides others who might have it at merry meetings, particularly at weddings and christenings, I compute that Dublin would take off annually about twenty thousand carcasses; and the rest of the kingdom (where probably they will be sold somewhat cheaper) the remaining eighty thousand.
I can think of no one objection, that will possibly be raised against this proposal, unless it should be urged, that the number of people will be thereby much lessened in the kingdom. This I freely own, and 'twas indeed one principal design in offering it to the world. I desire the reader will observe, that I calculate my remedy for this one individual Kingdom of Ireland, and for no other that ever was, is, or, I think, ever can be upon Earth. Therefore let no man talk to me of other expedients: Of taxing our absentees at five shillings a pound: Of using neither cloaths, nor houshold furniture, except what is of our own growth and manufacture: Of utterly rejecting the materials and instruments that promote foreign luxury: Of curing the expensiveness of pride, vanity, idleness, and gaming in our women: Of introducing a vein of parsimony, prudence and temperance: Of learning to love our country, wherein we differ even from Laplanders, and the inhabitants of Topinamboo: Of quitting our animosities and factions, nor acting any longer like the Jews, who were murdering one another at the very moment their city was taken: Of being a little cautious not to sell our country and consciences for nothing: Of teaching landlords to have at least one degree of mercy towards their tenants. Lastly, of putting a spirit of honesty, industry, and skill into our shop-keepers, who, if a resolution could now be taken to buy only our native goods, would immediately unite to cheat and exact upon us in the price, the measure, and the goodness, nor could ever yet be brought to make one fair proposal of just dealing, though often and earnestly invited to it.
Therefore I repeat, let no man talk to me of these and the like expedients, 'till he hath at least some glympse of hope, that there will ever be some hearty and sincere attempt to put them into practice.
But, as to my self, having been wearied out for many years with offering vain, idle, visionary thoughts, and at length utterly despairing of success, I fortunately fell upon this proposal, which, as it is wholly new, so it hath something solid and real, of no expence and little trouble, full in our own power, and whereby we can incur no danger in disobliging England. For this kind of commodity will not bear exportation, and flesh being of too tender a consistence, to admit a long continuance in salt, although perhaps I could name a country, which would be glad to eat up our whole nation without it.
After all, I am not so violently bent upon my own opinion as to reject any offer proposed by wise men, which shall be found equally innocent, cheap, easy, and effectual. But before something of that kind shall be advanced in contradiction to my scheme, and offering a better, I desire the author or authors will be pleased maturely to consider two points. First, as things now stand, how they will be able to find food and raiment for an hundred thousand useless mouths and backs. And secondly, there being a round million of creatures in human figure throughout this kingdom, whose whole subsistence put into a common stock would leave them in debt two millions of pounds sterling, adding those who are beggars by profession to the bulk of farmers, cottagers, and laborers, with their wives and children who are beggars in effect: I desire those politicians who dislike my overture, and may perhaps be so bold as to attempt an answer, that they will first ask the parents of these mortals, whether they would not at this day think it a great happiness to have been sold for food, at a year old in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortunes as they have since gone through by the oppression of landlords, the impossibility of paying rent without money or trade, the want of common sustenance, with neither house nor clothes to cover them from the inclemencies of the weather, and the most inevitable prospect of entailing the like or greater miseries upon their breed for ever.
I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my country, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing.
The End
Time for Another Revolution
By Frank Chodorov
[From Chapter 4, One is a Crowd, by Frank Chodorov, 1952. Posted on http://www.mises.org/story/2633 July 4th, 2007]
http://www.mises.org/books/onecrowd.pdf
It all began, as you know, with the Declaration of Independence. The Americans stated their case, both as to the disabilities put upon them by the British Crown and as to the kind of government they considered it fitting for men to live under. The indictment was rejected and the issue was joined in battle. The god of war decided in favor of the Americans, insofar as removing the grievous rule was concerned; but in the establishment of a government to their liking the victors were on their own. Nobody could help them. Even history could not make a suggestion; for never had there been a political establishment constructed or operating on principles laid down in the Declaration. These principles, moreover, were quite metaphysical, completely outside the realm of experience. They were: (1) that all men are created equal, and, (2) that all men are endowed with inalienable rights. When you come down to it, the two metaphysical concepts are really one. For the postulate of equality did not apply to human capacities or attributes, which are quite unequal and far beyond the scope of government, but to the enjoyment of rights or prerogatives. In that respect, they maintained, all men must be considered on a par. This was a brand-new base for government. In all political science hitherto known it had been an axiom that rights were privileges handed down to subjects by the sovereign power; hence there was nothing positive about them. A new king or a new parliament could abrogate existing rights or extend them to other groups or establish new favorites. The Americans, however, insisted that in the nature of things all rights inhere in the individual, by virtue of his existence, and that he instituted government for the sole purpose of preventing one citizen from violating the rights of another. Sovereign power, they said, resides in the individual; the government is only an agency of his will. If it fails to carry out its duties properly, or if it itself presumes to invade his rights, then the moral thing to do is to kick it out. But, government is not an abstraction; it consists of people, and the inclination of all people is to improve upon their circumstances with whatever skills or capacities they possess and by whatever opportunities they meet up with. The power placed in the hands of this agency — to enforce the observance of an equality of rights — is in itself a temptation from which only the saintly are delivered. The Founding Fathers were therefore confronted with a difficult contradiction: men being what they are, a government is necessary; and government being what it is, men must be safeguarded against it. Their recipe was the Constitution. Whether or not the ensuing government would materialize the metaphysics of the Declaration, the Constitution was, at any rate, a definite pattern; and when it was ratified and put into operation, it became the end-product of the Revolution. To be sure, the Constitution cut corners around the doctrine of natural rights. We must remember that it was, after all, a political instrument, concocted by men. Only in its preamble can such an instrument serve the moralities; its working parts must be geared to the interests of the dominating groups in society, and hence it must be a compromise; to effect the compromise the moralities must be watered down. The Constitution was no exception. The assumed equality of rights was distinctly out of line with the profitable slave trade; owners of large estates wondered how it might affect their business; merchants and manufacturers deemed it dangerous to their preferred position. The Constitution was therefore so framed that the doctrine could not be employed to disrupt the status. There were many Americans who contended that the profit of the Revolution was liquidated by the Constitution and at their insistence a Bill of Rights was included.
The Basic Social Struggle
The Founding Fathers forged well. Putting aside what it might have been, the Constitution did pay homage to the doctrine of natural rights. It did so by the simple expedient of putting restraints and limitations on the powers of government. We learn from their published statements that the intent of the Founding Fathers was to prevent the despised "democrats," should they come into power, from using it for spoliation. They were quite forthright about it, and not a little could be said in favor of their thesis. In recent years the "mob" they feared has indeed come into power and the result seems to support the contention of Madison, Adams, and Hamilton. "The postulate of equality did not apply to human capacities or attributes, which are quite unequal and far beyond the scope of government…" But regardless of their argument and regardless of their intent, the Constitutional shackles did in fact, though perhaps inadvertently, protect the people in the enjoyment of their cherished rights. From this we learn a little heeded lesson in social science, namely, that the real struggle that disturbs the enjoyment of life is not between economic classes but between Society as a whole and the political power which imposes itself on Society. The class-struggle theory is a blind alley. True, people of like economic interests will gang up for the purpose of taking advantage of others. But within these classes there is as much rivalry as there is between the classes. When, however, you examine the advantage which one class obtains over another you find that the basis of it is political power. It is impossible for one person to exploit another, for one class to exploit another, without the aid of law and the force to back up the law. Examine any monopoly and you will find it resting on the State. So that the economic and social injustices we complain of are not due to economic inequalities, but to the political means that bring about these inequalities. If peace is to be brought into the social order it is not by accentuating a class struggle, but by restraining the basic cause of it; that is, the political power. To bring about a condition of equal rights, which is a condition of justice, the hands of the politician must be so tied that he cannot extend his activities beyond the simple duty of protecting life and property, his only competence. To the extent, then, that the Founding Fathers delimited the powers of the new government — by the system of checks and balances — to that extent did they render inestimable social service. And to that extent did they insure the victory of the Revolution.For about a century and a half the American citizen enjoyed, in the main, three immunities against the State: in respect to his property; in respect to his person; in respect to his thought and expression. Pressure upon them was constant, for in the pursuit of power the State is relentless, but the dikes of the Constitution held firm and so did the immunities. Only within our time did the State effect a vital breach in the Constitution, and in short order the American, no matter what his classification, was reduced to the status of subject, as he was before 1776. His citizenship shriveled up when the Sixteenth Amendment replaced the Declaration of Independence. The income tax completely destroys the immunity of property. It flatly declares a prior right of the State to all things produced. What it permits the individual to retain is a concession to expediency, not by any means a right; for the State retains the liberty to set rates and to fix exemptions from year to year, as its convenience dictates. Thus, the sacred right of private property is violated, and the fact that it is done pro forma makes the violation no less real than when it is done arbitrarily by an autocrat. The blanks we so dutifully fill out simply accentuate our degradation to subject status. Demagoguery loves to emphasize a distinction between human rights and property rights. The distinction is without validity and only serves to arouse envy. The right to own is the mark of a free man. The slave is a slave simply because he is denied that right. And because the free man is secure in the possession and enjoyment of what he produces, and the slave is not, the spur to production is in one and not in the other. Men produce to satisfy their desires and if their gratifications are curbed they cease to produce beyond the point of limitation; on the other hand the only limit to their aspirations is the freedom to enjoy the fruits of their labors."The American no longer regards his local government as anything more than an agency of the State." That fact, deep rooted in the nature of man, accounts for the progress of civilization when and where the right of property is recognized, and for the retrogression that follows from its denial. Property rights and human rights are more than complementary; they are identical. The income tax did more than revoke the immunity of property. It gave the State the means of effectively attacking the immunities of mind and of person; it transferred to the State that sovereignty which, according to the American theory, is lodged in the individual. In the final analysis, sovereignty is a matter of dollars. The more dollars the more sovereignty. The individual is no longer sovereign when his living is dependent on a superior will, when that will becomes dominant by the economic strength behind it. The edicts of the State are not self-enforcing, since they lack the voluntary support of public opinion, and are therefore only as effective as the size of the police force; but the police force must be paid, and since the payments must come out of the property of those upon whom the edicts fall, there is no standing up to it. Without an FBI, military co
Keith Olbermann delivers arguably his most pointed and most powerful Special Comment yet on the ramifications of Bush’s commutation of Libby’s sentence.
Thank you Nicole Belle for the transcript!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-united-states/
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Finally tonight, as promised, a Special Comment on what is, in everything but name, George Bush’s pardon of Scooter Libby. “I didn’t vote for him,” an American once said, “But he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” That — on this eve of the 4th of July — is the essence of this democracy, in seventeen words. And that is what President Bush threw away yesterday in commuting the sentence of Lewis “Scooter” Libby. The man who said those seventeen words — improbably enough — was the actor John Wayne. And Wayne, an ultra-conservative, said them, when he learned of the hair’s-breadth election of John F. Kennedy instead of his personal favorite, Richard Nixon in 1960. “I didn’t vote for him but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” The sentiment was doubtlessly expressed earlier. But there is something especially appropriate about hearing it, now, in Wayne’s voice. The crisp matter-of-fact acknowledgement that we have survived, even though for nearly two centuries now, our Commander-in-Chief has also served, simultaneously, as the head of one political party and often the scourge of all others. We as citizens must, at some point, ignore a president’s partisanship. Not that we may “prosper” as a nation, not that we may “achieve”, not that we may “lead the world” — but merely that we may “function.” But just as essential to the seventeen words of John Wayne is an implicit trust — a sacred trust:That the president for whom so many did not vote, can in turn suspend his political self long enough, and for matters imperative enough, to conduct himself solely for the benefit of the entire Republic. Our generation’s willingness to state “we didn’t vote for him, but he’s our president, and we hope he does a good job,” was tested in the crucible of history, and far earlier than most. And in circumstances more tragic and threatening. And we did that with which history tasked us. We enveloped “our” President in 2001. And those who did not believe he should have been elected — indeed, those who did not believe he had been elected — willingly lowered their voices and assented to the sacred oath of non-partisanship. And George W. Bush took our assent, and re-configured it, and honed it, and sharpened it to a razor-sharp point, and stabbed this nation in the back with it.
Were there any remaining lingering doubt otherwise, or any remaining lingering hope, it ended yesterday when Mr. Bush commuted the prison sentence of one of his own staffers. Did so even before the appeals process was complete… Did so without as much as a courtesy consultation with the Department of Justice… Did so despite what James Madison –at the Constitutional Convention — said about impeaching any president who pardoned or sheltered those who had committed crimes “advised by” that president… Did so without the slightest concern that even the most detached of citizens must look at the chain of events and wonder: To what degree was Mr. Libby told: break the law however you wish — the President will keep you out of prison? In that moment, Mr. Bush, you broke that fundamental compact between yourself and the majority of this nation’s citizens — the ones who did not cast votes for you. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you ceased to be the President of the United States. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you became merely the President… of a rabid and irresponsible corner of the Republican Party. And this is too important a time, sir, to have a Commander-in-Chief who puts party over nation. This has been, of course, the gathering legacy of this Administration. Few of its decisions have escaped the stain of politics. The extraordinary Karl Rove has spoken of “a permanent Republican majority,” as if such a thing — or a permanent Democratic majority — is not antithetical to that upon which rests: our country, our history, our revolution, our freedoms. Yet our democracy has survived shrewder men than Karl Rove. And it has survived the frequent stain of politics upon the fabric of government. But this administration, with ever-increasing insistence and almost theocratic zealotry, has turned that stain… into a massive oil spill. The protection of the environment is turned over to those of one political party, who will financially benefit from the rape of the environment. The protections of the Constitution are turned over to those of one political party, who believe those protections unnecessary and extravagant and “quaint.” The enforcement of the laws is turned over to those of one political party, who will swear beforehand that they will not enforce those laws. The choice between war and peace is turned over to those of one political party, who stand to gain vast wealth by ensuring that there is never peace, but only war.
And now, when just one cooked book gets corrected by an honest auditor… When just one trampling of the inherent and inviolable “fairness” of government is rejected by an impartial judge… When just one wild-eyed partisan is stopped by the figure of blind justice… This President decides that he, and not the law, must prevail.
I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war.
I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient.
I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors.
I accuse you of subverting the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but instead to stifle dissent.
I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought.
I accuse you of exploiting that unreasoning fear, the natural fear of your own people who just want to live their lives in peace, as a political tool to slander your critics and libel your opponents.
I accuse you of handing part of this republic over to a Vice President who is without conscience, and letting him run roughshod over it.
And I accuse you now, Mr. Bush, of giving, through that Vice President, carte blanche to Mr. Libby, to help defame Ambassador Joseph Wilson by any means necessary, to lie to Grand Juries and Special Counsel and before a court, in order to protect the mechanisms and particulars of that defamation, with your guarantee that Libby would never see prison, and, in so doing, as Ambassador Wilson himself phrased it here last night, of you becoming an accessory to the obstruction of justice.
When President Nixon ordered the firing of the Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox during the infamous “Saturday Night Massacre” on October 20th, 1973, Mr. Cox initially responded tersely, and ominously: “Whether ours shall be a government of laws and not of men, is now for Congress, and ultimately, the American people.” President Nixon did not understand how he had crystallized the issue of Watergate for the American people. It had been about the obscure meaning behind an attempt to break in to a rival party’s headquarters; and the labyrinthine effort to cover-up that break-in and the related crimes. But in one night, Nixon transformed it. Watergate — instantaneously — became a simpler issue: a President overruling the inexorable march of the law. Of insisting — in a way that resonated viscerally with millions who had not previously understood — that he was the law. Not the Constitution. Not the Congress. Not the Courts. Just him. Just - Mr. Bush - as you did, yesterday.
The twists and turns of Plame-Gate, your precise and intricate lies that sent us into this bottomless pit of Iraq; your lies upon the lies to discredit Joe Wilson; your lies upon the lies upon the lies to throw the sand at the “referee” of Prosecutor Fitzgerald’s analogy… these are complex and often painful to follow, and too much, perhaps, for the average citizen. But when other citizens render a verdict against your man, Mr. Bush — and then you spit in the faces of those jurors and that judge and the judges who were yet to hear the appeal — the average citizen understands that, sir. It’s the fixed ballgame and the rigged casino and the pre-arranged lottery all rolled into one — and it stinks. And they know it. Nixon’s mistake, the last and most fatal of them, the firing of Archibald Cox, was enough to cost him the presidency. And in the end, even Richard Nixon could say he could not put this nation through an impeachment. It was far too late for it to matter then, but as the decades unfold, that single final gesture of non-partisanship, of acknowledged responsibility not to self, not to party, not to “base,” but to country, echoes loudly into history. Even Richard Nixon knew it was time to resign Would that you could say that, Mr. Bush. And that you could say it for Mr. Cheney. You both crossed the Rubicon yesterday. Which one of you chose the route, no longer matters. Which is the ventriloquist, and which the dummy, is irrelevant. But that you have twisted the machinery of govern
I saw the Denver Airport murals before all the post-9/11 bandwagon jumpers came on the scene. It must be deliberate disinfo for the politically correct conspiracy theorist crowd as there's no way in hell little blonde boys are going to run the same System that degrades blondes by calling them dumb, portryaing them as villains in Hollywood movies or Bruckheimer & Wolf's "CSI" and "Law and Order"; the same system that pairs White blonde females with black males to promote genocide and taunt White men. Also, Denver airport is the centre of the underground "grey" alien base crowd - says it all.
"Still crazy after all these years."
Are you? How sad. Get help. You couldn't possibly be referring to me, as I haven't even been posting here for one year. More lies.
"crazy", "COINTELPRO stooge ", "stupid", "I doubt anyone with a third grade education".
That's how the commies operate. Jew slander and Ad Hominems - disagree and you're "stupid" and "insane". To the Gulag!
Oh and go fuck yourself, you laughably pathetic brazen liar truth-inverting disinfo tool.
"Or be honest about being a COINTELPRO stooge" Why? Because you're paranoid and go staight to outrageously phony accusations/lies when someone stands up to your precious Yooz?
"to assist in the strategy to haul all the jews to the Cheney/Halliburton/FEMA concentration camps" HA HA HA HA HA! LOL! What strategy, you loon? Once again theidiots on this page outdo themselves with ridiculous "jews as victims" lies and "DICK CHENEY RUNS THE NWO"! I don't blame you, he's about the only White gentile you can put all the blame on instaed of all the jews in governement rather than all those jews. Racist.
And would the poor, innocent victims-jews you speak of be the same ones wh run the US gibt, wrote the Project for a New American Century, own and run the media, control Hollywood, control the US as an Israeli cash/military colony and control the Federal reserve? The same ADL jews who wrote the "hate speech" anti-free speech laws?
I know you are disinfo but you REALLY must try harder and do better than that.
"I doubt anyone with a third grade education and access to the internet will believe it."
Anyone with a brain and net access has read the Talmud, knows what zionism/Israel is and is familiar with Communism (Marx & Engels jews) and the New York jew-street thugs (Trotsky= Bronstein) and jewish bankers (Schiff & Warburg) who took over Russia and killed half of Eastern Europe.
If immigration is a government conspiracy, who wins ?
Obviously, the corporate world may gain a little money, but the costs will eat that profit up too. Immigration isn't just a public thing, it affects the whole economy for everyone that are citizens. To make a legal citizen out of an illegal, doesn't solve the financial equation, it corrupts it.
Here are my choices:
1Ron Paul
2Mike Gravel
3Dennis Kucinich///all will get us out of Iraq, but Ron Paul is the only one that has complete grasp of the fiscal emergency we are in. At the moment we have over $100 Trillion in commitments through debtspending, well look at what wiki says about the plan that was used to bring about the third reich...The government then expanded the money supply through massive deficit spending. However at the same time the government imposed a 4.5% interest rate ceiling, creating a massive shortage in borrowable funds. This was resolved by setting up a series of dummy companies that would pay for goods with bonds. The most famous of these was the MEFO company, and these bonds used as currency became known as MEFO bills. While it was promised that these bonds could eventually be exchanged for real money, the repayment was put off until after the collapse of the Reich. These complicated manoeuvres also helped conceal armament expenditures that violated the Treaty of Versailles.
According to economic theory, price control combined with a large increase in the money supply should have produced a large black market, but harsh penalties that saw violators sent to concentration camps or even shot prevented this development. Repressive measures also kept volatility low, reducing inflationary pressures. New policies also limited imports of consumer goods and focused on producing exports. International trade was greatly reduced remaining at about a third of 1929 levels throughout the Nazi period. Currency controls were extended, leading to a considerable overvaluation of the Reichsmark. These policies were successful in cutting unemployment dramatically.
Most industry was not nationalized; however, industry was closely regulated with quotas and requirements to use domestic resources. These regulations were set by administrative committees composed of government and business officials. Competition was limited as major companies were organized into cartels through these administrative committees. Selective nationalization was used against businesses that failed to agree to these arrangements. The banks, which had been nationalized by the Weimar Republic, were returned to their owners and each administrative committee had a bank as member to finance the schemes.
While the strict state intervention into the economy, and the massive rearmament policy, led to full employment during the 1930s, real wages in Germany dropped by roughly 25% between 1933 and 1938. [4] Trade unions were abolished, as well as collective bargaining and the right to strike. [5] The right to quit also disappeared: Labour books were introduced in 1935, and required the consent of the previous employer in order to be hired for another job.
Or be honest about being a COINTELPRO stooge that is only blogging to assist in the strategy to haul all the jews to the Cheney/Halliburton/FEMA concentration camps. So you can either wake up (if you are just stupid) or be authentic (if you are a COINTELPRO agent-more likely). Of course you could just deny either of these, but I doubt anyone with a third grade education and access to the internet will believe it.
Still crazy after all these years.
"Illegal immigration is a government plot.
The counterculture is a government plot.
There are Illuminati symbols on Starbucks coffee cups. (The Illuminati leave clues visible only to angry white guys with IQ's in the mid-80's.) "
The ass who postetd this is laughably ignorant and too arrogant to be aware of his own ignorance. Racist to boot. Typical leftist - the size of his ego and mouth outstrip the size of his "intellect".
For others: I've seen the Egyptian-Masonic all-seeing eye symbol on/at Starbucks. It exists. The "60s" was an NWO production - marxist "protests" were funded by the USSR to $1 million dollars. Also that "tune out" guy who went around in a bus giving out LSD to unsuspecting people was CIA-backed.
As for illegals being a government plot - no explanation necessary, though the obviousness of that confirms Mr. Sarcastic idiot to be an ignorant moron or a left-wing psycho in total denial and UBER-SARCASM MODE!
To the cretin who keeps saying "white guy egoism". Come round my way so I can give you a corrective smack in the face.
It's not Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Ledeeen, Chertoff or the ADL.
Dick Cheney single-handedly runs the NWO!
("sane" delusionally believed I was avoiding that "stone" for some reason). The above jew zionists are innocent, framed by evil white man Cheney!
Yes, puppets (Cheney) are culpable, but so are the above-named puppet masters.
If the evil Talmud was written by Knights Templar to frame jews, then why do jews still embrace and teach it and have done for centuries, if they are innocent victims?
Didn't think it through, "sane", did you?
Does the mendacious "sane" still post here? I haven't dropped my promise to deconstruct his BIG lies - I've been too busy with other things to come back.
That said why waste my time trawling through his lies when one all-time whopper piece of judeo-apologism stands out - he says the Talmud was written by the Knights Templar to blame the jews! The CHUTZPAH of the guy! The Talmud is the smoking gun which PROVES jewish racsim and supremacy, yet the "sane" disinfo clown extends his "evil whites frame innocent jews" meme to unbelievable lengths! I shpuld think that is more than enough to obliterate his self-assumed "credibility" in the conspiracy world. That one was such a whopper I'm amazed that Burger King haven't been on the phone threatening legal action. I bet those jew warplanes that bombed Lebanese civilians to death last year were piloted by the Knights Templars who rose from their graves to fly Israeli jetplanes and bomb Lebanon so they could "blame the jews".
What a clown - and a bad liar at that.
And where is the "good" Talmud that say White people are OK? No doubt hidden by those evil Knights Templar.
Styx is cool.
But don't be fooled by the radio
The TV or the magazines
They show you photographs of how your life should be
But they're just someone else's fantasy
So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because you never win the game
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...
So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...
America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car
Someday soon we'll stop to ponder what on Earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder who the hell we are --
I am a conspiracy theorist, and proud of it. Page 10 is lonely. Hello !!! Is there any body in here? (Echo, echo, echo......)
AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH
Al Gores 20 room private mansion uses 20 times the national US average of gas and electricity. As Gore lavishes himself in his heated swimming pool, poor people and the middle class await the onslaught of "carbon taxes" to eviscerate any disposable income they have left.
Help Alex Jones: DIGG IT UP
http://www.digg.com/videos/
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Haloscan is dead
Long live haloscan
EXECUTIVE ORDERS:
#10995- Seizure of all communications media in the United States.
#10997- Seizure of all electric power, fuels, and minerals, both public and private.
#10998- Seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private, all farms and farm equipment.
#10999- Seizure of all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind, and total control over all highways, seaports and waterways.
#11000- Seizure of all American people for work forces under Federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government has to.
#11001- Seizure of all health, education, and welfare facilities both public and private.
#11002- Empowers the Postmaster General to register all men, women, and children in the United States.
#11003- Seizure of all airports and aircraft.
#11004- Seizure of all housing and finance authorities, to establish Forced Relocation. Designates areas to be abandoned as "unsafe", establishes new locations for populations, relocates communities, builds new housing with public funds.
#11005- Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private.
#11051- Provides the Office of Emergency Planning COMPLETE AUTHORIZATION TO PUT THE ABOVE ORDERS INTO EFFECT IN TIMES OF INCREASED INTERNATIONAL TENSION, OR ECONOMIC OR FINANCIAL CRISIS.
#12919- Signed by Bill Clinton June 3rd, 1994. Encompasses all of the above Executive Orders.
*Flyers available of these orders from Militia of Montana for hand out to sheeple.
Good gun show today in Kansas City. Bought 4, no paypa......
Perhaps some of you on here can heed a lesson from this and stop routinely blurting out "Facsist" or "Nazi" unnecessarily (now you know how it feels to be falsely described!). Why not say "commie" or "marxist" instead? It's more accurate and it pisses off the left - and the PC types at Digg and Wikipedia?
Can you digg it?
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I do.
Alberto Gozalas is both.
lol
http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti...7/
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alex on the show made sense about the incident, and its all on tape, and been exposed already like mad online too including audio! .. this is a good thing but.. "luke" .. I tend to disagree about him needing money for legal representation when the video spells it out so plainly. its obvious the building has small video cameras in little tinted domes mounted to the outside of the building near the entrance, it's obvious the thug was gleefully menacing and threatening luke there on the street.. we cant see the thugs claiming to be police in this video but it's pretty obvious they arent because they called the police to the scene, and it's pretty obvious the thug claimed luke a terrorist with a BOMB, the police taking camera and cell phone.. and also obvious the thug saying "larry doesnt like this doesnt want you here" acting on "larrys command". the video speaks for itself, I'd tend to think of itself it'd be a hit right out of the park, priceless!
Hey guys, what's your take on this wiki article? The components of fascism. They label nationalism, and anti-communism as bad (see their definitions). And say that both of these, as well as opposition to economic and political liberalism as a necessary part of fascism. Seems to be a bit commie to me, meaning, leads us to believe that liberalism will save us from fascism.
http://digg.com/politics/ What_Is...ay_Be_Surprised
TimM
Yes, you're absolutely right. I had to post rebuttals to some mad leftie concerning this on Google video recently. So THAT'S where he got it from! These silly lefties don't do their own research they just unquestioningly accept what "official" sources tell them even when those sources are simply left-biased.
You must have noticed that Wikipedia is very PC and has been known to censor/omit facts. Has anyone else noticed that the big, popular, mainstream sites promoted as such by the big media (Google, Youtube, Wikipedia) are all ultra-PC? I noticed recently that YouTube say something about "offensive" speech on its site - we all know that's just weasel code for "un-PC" speech. What hypocrites the left are - through the 60's and 70s they tore through society's standards and produced media propaganda styling themselves as the champions of absolute free speech & expression and anti-censorship of any kind. Now they have power it's a different story! They are only in favour of free speech when it comes to pornography or themselves. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
Oh by the way this "Digg" site seems to be the latest big, "popular" net phenomenon - I'd never heard of it until Alex Jones criticised it for trying to bury the BBC WTC7 20 mins late story - and now this "article". Proves the point I made earlier about these ultra-PC websites posing as mainstream. See how excited they are with this article! Acting as though they've been validated by it, pretending it's credible even though it's not so they can have an excuse to label any non/anti-leftists as "Fascist".
Perhaps some of you on here can heed a lesson from this and stop routinely blurting out "Facsist" or "Nazi" unnecessarily (now you know how it feels to be falsely described!). Why not say "commie" or "marxist" instead? It's more accurate and it pisses off the left - and the PC types at Digg and Wikipedia?
Can you digg it?
I wish that I was there with those Silverstein goyim goombas rent-a-cops in their black trenchcoats. I would have showed them something out of MY backpack!
Police chief makes recently released prisoners sell crack for money, then they get busted (ROTF)
Sherriff's wife liked to have sex with the prisoners (lmfao)
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Dude, right fucking here, it is hilarious. Wear diapers caus ur gonna piss in ur pants:
http://www.madcowprod.com/newvid...ideo/
index.html
That was awesome today when Alex said that our perception of greed in others is often projection and a reflection of ourselves.
Testing: ponerogenic
Testing: [b]ponerogenic[/b]
Police chief makes recently released prisoners sell crack for money, then they get busted (ROTF)
Sherriff's wife liked to have sex with the prisoners (lmfao)
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show link, or did you make this up sane?
Skeletons from Giulianis closet: He was mayor while these two held Gotham to ransom
Two highly decorated former detectives were convicted Thursday of moonlighting as hitmen for the mob in one of the most sensational cases of police corruption in New York history. Louis Eppolito, 57, and Steven Caracappa, 64, could get life in prison for their roles in eight murders committed between 1986 and 1990 while they were simultaneously on the payroll of both the NYPD and Luchese crime family underboss Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso, known as one of the most brutal mobsters in the city, and suspected of involvement in 36 murders. Federal prosecutor Daniel Wenner described the case as "the bloodiest, most violent betrayal of the badge this city has ever seen." Court documents accuse them of killing several mobsters in retaliation for the attempted murder of Casso.
Prosecutors said the two men carried out two hits themselves in one case after pulling a mobster over in a phony traffic stop and delivered up some of the other victims to the Mafia to be killed. According to testimony, the detectives "arrested" a mobster named Jimmy Hydell in 1986, but instead delivered him to Casso for torture and execution. Prosecutors said the two used their law enforcement positions to help the Mafia at a price of $4,000 per month more if they personally handled a killing. They earned $65,000 for the phony traffic stop slaying shooting a Gambino family captain suspected in the assassination attempt
They were convicted of charges that included racketeering conspiracy, witness tampering, witness retaliation and obstruction of justice. Caracappa, who retired in 1992, helped establish the city police department's unit for Mafia murder investigations. Eppolito who wrote an autobiography titled Mafia Cop: The Story of an Honest Cop Whose Family Was the Mob, a much-praised street cop, became as well-known in the 1970s and '80s for his family links as the grandson, son and nephew of Mafia members as for his work as a police officer. chicagosyndicate.blogspot.com
Why are these articles un-sourced!? Rosie stated on the View that her departure was unrelated to 9/11. It had to do with money.
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But...BUT, that's just not "sensational" enough!!! There MUST be a conspiracy behind it! Didn't you know, EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.
You called your mom. She didn't answer the phone? Conspiracy!
Your kid got a D in school? Yup, you guessed it... CONSPIRACY!!
Trying to make a phone call with your cell phone, but can't get any bars? That's the new Star Wars energy beam discombobulator (TM Kenner.)
Late for work this morning? This was a good one, I need to explain how they did it:
The NWO spied on this board, tracked your movements for a few weeks and determined when you leave for work. Then they called in the UN troops to clog traffic when you left your house. Yeah, they're sneaky like that. Creepy, huh?
That car accident you drove past on the freeway? Well, let's just say that person was asking too many questions!
I know all this because I was told by a top level NSA insider, 2 local police officers in your county, and one of your co-workers that, for obvious reasons, all wish to remain anonymous. But there were 4 of them, so "trust me", it's credible. 
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Amen!! The only thing I would add is that they also believe that they gain power through extremely evil sexual practices as well. You're very right, these people have got to go, forever! Very well written manifesto. Praise the Lord Jesus the Christ....
....in His name....
....ONLY True Peace,
Criminalizing natural health.
http://video.google.com/videopla...495233634&
hl=en
On her blog, Rosie said that she left because she didn't want to be locked into a 3 year contract, and they wouldn't give her a one year contract. Alex says it was a free speech thing. There's different reasons given all over.
Hey guys, what's your take on this wiki article? The components of fascism. They label nationalism, and anti-communism as bad (see their definitions). And say that both of these, as well as opposition to economic and political liberalism as a necessary part of fascism. Seems to be a bit commie to me, meaning, leads us to believe that liberalism will save us from fascism.
http://digg.com/politics/
What_Is...ay_Be_Surprised
Manifesto:
The period in which we are living differs from the preceding one in that we are living experimentally what before could only be apprehended theoretically: the death of the American Republic. Our liberty is in danger like never before and we find ourselves in a trial of liberty. But there are certain individuals who have grossly abused their liberty and are becoming demonic, in so much as they are providing points of entry for demons. These demons are attempting to sieze our entire society, with the deliberate intention of swallowing up, first the nation and finally the whole world.
There is one infallible criterion by which we may distinguish all that is satanic and it was given by Jesus Himself:...."you are of your father the devil; the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and he stood not in the truth because the TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM....." These are the two signs which characterize the satanic:LYING AND MURDER.
Now lying and murder are the expression of the essence of NeoCon Republicanism. Never before have they been committed so entirely for their own sake, with such cold pre-meditation, with such complete fanaticism as being the motive life set forth for an entire nation. All information in the press and all announcements on TV breathe lies. All that the NeoCons say, write, and do is soaked in lies. NeoCon Republicanism is built on a lie.
There is a close connection between Satan and NeoCon Republicanism.
Satanic is the hatred of NeoCon Republicanism against the truth, justice and the rule of US Constitutional law.
Satanic are the methods of warfare and propaganda of NeoCon Republicanism.
Satanic are the brutality and cruelty, the torture and the killings of NeoCon Republicanism.
Satanic finally will be the disintegration and the fall of NeoCon Republicanism.
The lie on which NeoCon Republicanism is built is not merely error, that is human; it is more, it is the CONSCIOUS REVERSAL OF TRUTH. If the human spirit gives itself voluntarily to lying, it acts against its own metaphysical nature, which was made for truth. Only spiritual beings, which is what demons are, can live essentially in the perversity of the lie. Wherever lying has become the principle of life, the inner essence of intelligence, will and action, one can be sure that the forces of Satan are at work. This is the case in NeoCon Republicanism; it is satanic in its inmost nature. Its path is being marked by the heaped-up bodies of murdered men, women and children. This is why the NeoCon Republicans can only destroy and annihilate; it is their true satanic aim, always to annihilate.
The American people have no more urgent task than to exterminate NeoCon Republicanism down to its very last root, and to make sure its return is impossible. The spirit of NeoCon Republicanism is the spirit of neo-paganism. For them, all happiness, all salvation, both private and public, consists solely in this world's goods. This is why they feel the need to conquer, in order to gain more of this world's goods. Every means of doing so is permitted and exhalted, in fact, becomes a duty. The right to act thus becomes the key issue to their existence and any dissent or opposition then becomes a threat to their very existence and has to be destroyed.
One power alone is capable of banishing the forces of the devil and driving them back into the pit--redemption through Christ. At the Cross, the power of the demons is destroyed and in the last days, the kingdom of wickedness will be dissolved forever.
The term Gringo comes from the US army wearing green uniforms and the mexicans trying to say in english green go. It comes from the 1848 war i believe.
Why are these articles un-sourced!? Rosie stated on the View that her departure was unrelated to 9/11. It had to do with money.
Dan Rather is honest? Please. He was one of the main guys keeping JFK Truth from emerging.
Bonobo | Homepage | 04.25.07 - 3:59 pm | #
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And he's worked for the CIA for decades.
ONLY True Peace,
oneyedvet | 04.25.07 - 8:09 am | #
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Amen!!
ONLY True Peace,
Dear National Security Agency trolls:
What's it like to lie for a living? How does it make you feel to spy on the "serfs"? Do you think your special cause you have sold out free Americans for a New World Order payoff? How do you live with yourselves? Doesn't your conscience ever bother you about what you are doing? Don't you have any shame, morals, or principals? Do you think your "masters" love you? Are you even human anymore? Or are you just the willing slaves of the power hungry mega wealthy elite? It's hot in hell. And once your in it, you can't ever get out. You had better think very carefully about what you are doing. God only has so much patience. And you had better consider your personal credit line of his forgiveness, before it's too late.
Texas is like a whole 'nother country.... Hitler's Germany.
j gardner
No. More like communist East Germany.
"Micronazisoft word:" - sane
He's still pushing it, eh? The most mulit-culti, anti-White, affirmative action discrimination, scholarships for non-Whites, PC marketing campaigns, billions for Africa and AIDS.. is "Nazi".
Observe, people. Observe.
The new Sane webpage?
We Just Marched In (So We Can Just March Out)
by Ron Paul
Before the U.S. House of Representatives, April 17, 2007
http://informationliberation.com...n.com/?
id=21677
All the reasons given to justify a preemptive strike against Iraq were wrong. Congress and the American people were misled.
Support for the war came from various special interests that had agitated for an invasion of Iraq since 1998. The Iraq Liberation Act, passed by Congress and signed into law by President Clinton, stated that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was official U.S. policy. This policy was carried out in 2003.
Congress failed miserably in meeting its crucial obligations as the branch of government charged with deciding whether to declare war. It wrongly and unconstitutionally transferred this power to the president, and the president did not hesitate to use it.
Although it is clear there was no cause for war, we just marched in. Our leaders deceived themselves and the public with assurances that the war was righteous and would be over quickly. Their justifications were false, and they failed to grasp even basic facts about the chaotic political and religious history of the region.
Congress bears the greater blame for this fiasco. It reneged on its responsibility to declare or not declare war. It transferred this decision-making power to the executive branch, and gave open sanction to anything the president did. In fact the founders diligently tried to prevent the executive from possessing this power, granting it to Congress alone in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.
Today just about everyone acknowledges the war has gone badly, and 70% of the American people want it to end. Our national defense is weakened, the financial costs continue to drain us, our allies have deserted us, and our enemies are multiplying � not to mention the tragic toll of death and injury suffered by American forces.
Iraq is a mess, and we urgently need a new direction � but our leaders offer only hand-wringing and platitudes. They have no clear-cut ideas to end the suffering and war. Even the most ardent war hawks cannot begin to define victory in Iraq.
As an Air Force officer serving from 1963�1968, I heard the same agonizing pleas from the American people. These pleas were met with the same excuses about why we could not change a deeply flawed policy and rethink the war in Vietnam. That bloody conflict, also undeclared and unconstitutional, seems to have taught us little despite the horrific costs.
Once again, though everyone now accepts that the original justifications for invading Iraq were not legitimate, we are given excuses for not leaving. We flaunt our power by building permanent military bases and an enormous billion-dollar embassy, yet claim we have no plans to stay in Iraq permanently. Assurances that our presence in Iraq has nothing to do with oil are not believed in the Middle East.
The argument for staying � to prevent civil war and bring stability to the region � logically falls on deaf ears.
If the justifications for war were wrong;
If the war is going badly;
If we can�t afford the costs, both human and economic;
If civil war and chaos have resulted from our occupation;
If the reasons for staying are no more credible than the reasons for going;
THEN�..
Why the dilemma? The American people have spoken, and continue to speak out, against this war. So why not end it? How do we end it? Why not exactly the way we went in? We just marched in, and we can just march out.
More good things may come of it than anyone can imagine. Consider our relationship with Vietnam, now our friendly trading partner. Certainly we are doing better with her than when we tried to impose our will by force. It is time to march out of Iraq and march home.
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Police chief makes recently released prisoners sell crack for money, then they get busted (ROTF)
Sherriff's wife liked to have sex with the prisoners (lmfao)
AWESOME SHIT
The guy who interviewed Mohammed Atta's girlfriend and found out theat he was a Bush Coke Mule out of the Iran Contra Venice, FL Airport (w/connection to Heaven's Gate ritual suicides) has a new documentary called:
THE SILENCING OF CAROL LAMB
http://www.madcowprod.com/newvid...ideo/
index.html
Dusty Foggo
Cunningham
Hunter
Brett Wilks
MASSIVE CIA CORRUPTION
Jay and Kelly Cambell Drugs, Sex, Money
John Deutch
Oliver North
Iran Contra
Jean Duffy - fired US Attorney for finding out what Carol Lamm knew
Barry Seal
Timeline
May 2006: The USPS submitted an omnibus postal rate increase to the PRC. This rate increase proposal included a provision that would increase the periodical rate by 11.7 percent -- a cost increase that was supposed to impact all publishers more or less equally.
February 2007: After a 10-month comment and testimony review period, the Postal Regulatory Commission released its 758-page recommended decision to the Postal Board of Governors. To the surprise of many, the PRC rejected the USPS planned periodical rate scheme, and replaced it with a scheme based on a complex proposal submitted by Time-Warner.
March 2007: The USPS allowed just 8 business days for formal responses to the 758 page February 26th recommendations. The recommended Time-Warner periodical proposal was so complex that smaller publishers couldn't adequately assess how the rate change would impact their businesses. On March 19, the Postal Board of Governors issued the final decision, adopting the PRC's February recommendations.
July 15, 2007: Without public action the change in the periodical rates goes into effect.
http://action.freepress.net/
free...xplanation.html
"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."
-- Thomas Jefferson, Jan. 16, 1787
What's at Stake
Our nation's founders understood the First Amendment would be worth little without a postal system that encouraged broad public participation in America's "marketplace of ideas."
Thomas Jefferson supported this with calls for a postal service that allowed citizens to gain "full information of their affairs," where ideas could "penetrate the whole mass of the people." Along with James Madison, he paved the way for a service that gave smaller political journals a voice. Their solution included low-cost mailing incentives whereby publications could reach as many readers as possible.
Other founders soon came to understand that the press as a political institution needed to be supported through favorable postal rates. President George Washington spoke out for free postage for newspapers through the mail, and Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton -- no proponent of government deficit -- conceded that incentives were necessary to spawn a viable press.
The postal policies that resulted have lasted for more than 200 years, spurring a vibrant political culture in the United States. They have eased the entry of diverse political viewpoints into a national discourse often dominated by the largest media organizations.
Time Warner Rewrites History
All of this could change in 2007.
In an unprecedented move, the agency that oversees postal rates in the United States has quietly attempted to unravel much of what the founders accomplished. Earlier this year, the Postal Regulatory Commission (PRC) rejected a postal rate increase plan offered by the U.S. Postal Service. Instead they opted to implement a complicated plan submitted by media giant Time Warner. (Click here to read the decision and click here for a timeline)
Under the original plan, all publishers would have a mostly equal increase (approx. 12 percent) in the cost for mailing their publications. The Time Warner plan overturned this level playing field to favor large, ad-heavy magazines like People at the expense of smaller publications like In These Times and The American Spectator. It penalizes thousands of small- to medium-sized outlets with disproportionately higher rates while locking in privileges for bigger companies.
Fight Back: Tell Congress to Act
The PRC has aligned itself with a media giant in an apparent effort to stifle smaller media in America. The stunning move is an unprecedented abuse of the agency's discretion. Congress must now step in to protect smaller media from these unfair rate hikes.
The Post Office should not use its monopoly power to favor the largest publishers and undermine the ability of smaller publishers to compete. It must be held accountable for a plan that could drive smaller publications to the brink of bankruptcy. With public involvement we can reverse the PRC decision and restore the postal system that has served free speech in America so well.
Demand a formal and open accounting of why more than 200 years of pro-democracy postal policy was abandoned.
Dan Rather is honest? Please. He was one of the main guys keeping JFK Truth from emerging.
And why are we waiting to charge US lawmakers with treason???????
Arab-Israeli lawmaker suspected of treason
dpa German Press Agency
Published: Wednesday April 25, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/dpa/
Ara...__04252007.html
Tel Aviv- A leading Arab-Israeli legislator who
mysteriously left the country two weeks ago is suspected of "aiding
the enemy in times of war" and money laundering, Israeli media
reported Wednesday.
A magistrates court in Petah Tiqva, near Tel Aviv, lifted a gag
order on the suspicions, three days after Azmi Bishara, of the
three-seat Balad party, suddenly emerged in Cairo, where he
submitted his resignation from the Knesset in a letter submitted to
the Israeli embassy to Egypt.
Bishara is suspected of submitting information to the Lebanese
Hezbollah movement during Israel's one-month war with the Shiite
militant group last summer. He is also suspected of receiving "large
amounts of money" from a "foreign agent," Israel Radio reported.
The 50-year-old lawmaker from the northern Arab-Israeli town of
Nazareth had already been interrogated twice on the suspicions by
the Israeli police, which granted a request by him to travel abroad
after he promised to return, the radio said.
The Petah Tiqva court partially lifted the gag order following a
petition by three Israeli media organizations and after Bishara's
resignation took effect Tuesday, 48 hours after he submitted his
letter of resignation to the Israeli embassy in Cairo.
Bishara had earlier hinted to Arab media that the charges against
him were "very serious," but said they were fabricated.
He has issued contradictory statements about whether he intends
to return to Israel.
Israeli authorities said Wednesday that he faced immediate arrest
if he returned from abroad.
Š 2006 - dpa German Press Agenc
BTW - where the fuck is AK48?
He is supposed to protect me from posting without thorough evidence?
OK I'll get an update on VT later, for the moment let's take time to acknowledge the true victims of the war in Iraq:
Laura Bush appeared on the Today Show this morning in a one-on-one interview with Ann Curry. Curry asked her about the situation in Iraq, to which Mrs. Bush responded, "No one suffers more than their president and I do."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
20...fe_n_46804.html
I'm glad that Alex mentioned the communist set-up today on his show. I was getting confused at one point about this. We have to use our weapons for defense only. The offense is the infowar.
It's really good you are trying to figure this out Sane. I wish I had time to help. I'll try to keep up with your posts.
TimM | 04.25.07 - 3:37 pm | #
Dude we can't wait another 6 fucking years
It's really good you are trying to figure this out Sane. I wish I had time to help. I'll try to keep up with your posts.
Ok, here is the evidence for him doing the first set of killings:
someone saw him near the building before 7AM
Here is the evidence reported that he did the next set of murders:
there was a 9mm and 22 near his body
I am still waiting for just a little bit more evidence, especially with what can happen in 10 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h?
v=cjRAcajFte0
Update: police are calling 7:30 am shooting, no links to cho and his first victims. so the cops did say it.
Never mind, just no links to his victims
Guys on CNN the cops said no link between 730am and 930am killings and no link of bomb threats to cho, BUT...
WHAT THE FUCK - These people are making this a bigger conspiracy by the minute (update: everyone is running with the second story!!!)
SCREEN SHOT THE LINKS THEY WILL CHANGE!!!!!!!!!
Well look at the story here:
http://www.kxly.com/news/?sect_r...& story_id=10472
Cho Seung-Hui, student identified by police as gunman who carried out the shootings at Virginia Tech
BLACKSBURG, VA. -- The gunman who carried out the massacre at Virginia Tech fired more than 170 rounds in nine minutes.
That's one of the new details police are providing about the case today.
But they say they still haven't determined a motive for the shooting rampage that left 33 people dead, including gunman Seung-Hui Cho.
Police say Cho had chained shut three public entrances in the building where most of the killings took place. That's where Cho was found dead of a bullet to his head, in a classroom surrounded by his victims.
Two other victims were gunned down two hours earlier at a dormitory across campus.
Investigators say they're still pursuing hundreds of leads, and sifting through e-mails, computer files and cell phone records.
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Now look at it on myFOX:
http://www.myfoxwghp.com/myfox/p...TY& pageId=3.2.1
Va. Tech Gunman Fired More Than 170 Shots Over 9 Minutes
Last Edited: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2007, 2:20 PM EDT
Created: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2007, 2:18 PM EDT
AP
By KRISTEN GELINEAU
Associated Press Writer
BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) The gunman who carried out the massacre at Virginia Tech fired more than 170 rounds in nine minutes and died with a bullet to his head in a classroom surrounded by his victims, authorities said Wednesday.
Police provided new details about the case at a news conference on the campus of Virginia Tech, but they said investigators still don't know what set the gunman off.
Seung-Hui Cho, 23, chained shut three public entrances to Norris Hall, the classroom building where he killed 30 students and teachers, police said. Two hours earlier, he had gunned down his first victims in a dormitory across campus.
State Police Superintendent Col. W. Steven Flaherty said Wednesday that investigators had compiled 500 pieces of evidence from Norris Hall but still had no answers about what motivated Cho to carry out such a bloody killing spree.
"We talk about possible motives and theories and whatnot, but we don't have any evidence to suggest anything," Flaherty said.
NOTICE THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE IN A KEY PIECE ON LONE GUNMAN EVIDENCE????????????????????????????????????????
Where the fuck did this sentence come from???????????????
"Two hours earlier, he had gunned down his first victims in a dormitory across campus."
HEY KRISTEN GELINEAU, WHO THE FUCK SAID HE????
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Alex does a really good Don Corleone.
Hey guys, check this out. You can trade Prison Planet stock on Alexa.com I don't know what this is all about, but it seems interesting. Probably just people betting on how popular a site will be in a certain time period. I would doubt real money is involved.
http://alexadex.com/ad/index.py?
...risonplanet.com
Yah when Alex replayed the John Kerry clip again, my interpretation of what Kerry said is, when asked about A. Building 7 and B. Silverstein, was that he didn't know about a formal investigation into Silverstein, but "I do know that uh.. that.. that wall, I remember, was.. was in danger, and I think that they made the decision, based on the danger, that they had it .. in destroying other things... that they did it in a controlled fashion." it referring to WTC7. Then he tries to make Silverstein look good.
Personally, I agree with Alex. I have no doubt that the wall Kerry was referring to, that he said was in danger, was the protective slurry wall for the river, and that he was referring to building 7 being demolished, along with other things, on purpose, to protect the wall from further damage (which is bullcrap anyway because we know why they pulled WTC 7). Now... he may not have realized what the hell he was saying....
TimM | 04.25.07 - 1:46 pm | #
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Can the honey bees, be doing, why would it be like the weather?
But he wouldn't have referred to the side of building 7 as "a wall". He would have said that building 7 was in danger of falling because of the damage to the "side" of the building. But it doesn't matter because he said he believed that they destroyed it, among other things, in a controlled fashion. Sorry... needed to say that.
And if by chance Kerry was referring to the one wall on the side of building 7 that was damaged, he still said that they demolished the building on purpose because of the danger.
Yah when Alex replayed the John Kerry clip again, my interpretation of what Kerry said is, when asked about A. Building 7 and B. Silverstein, was that he didn't know about a formal investigation into Silverstein, but "I do know that uh.. that.. that wall, I remember, was.. was in danger, and I think that they made the decision, based on the danger, that they had it .. in destroying other things... that they did it in a controlled fashion." it referring to WTC7. Then he tries to make Silverstein look good.
Personally, I agree with Alex. I have no doubt that the wall Kerry was referring to, that he said was in danger, was the protective slurry wall for the river, and that he was referring to building 7 being demolished, along with other things, on purpose, to protect the wall from further damage (which is bullcrap anyway because we know why they pulled WTC 7). Now... he may not have realized what the hell he was saying....
The only thing stopping the new world order and it's executed scrums of controlled chaos is the patriotic belief's of a democratic and honest American system. If the good people of America let her fall, it's all over.
Absolute power, corrupts absolutely, as
the great depression was a carefully contrived occurrence by international bankers seeking to bring about a condition of despair so that they might emerge as the rulers of us all.
-Louis McFadden
Virtual puppets like Rove, Dick, the Neo-Cunt's, they want to be masters of the universe, but there are more people in the United States of America who don't want them to be. Bilderberger members, like the Clinton's are ready to pick up for the same masters where the Bush's left off. More people now know that the bank of England controls America's money system through the Federal Reserve and since the initial takeover of the central banking system have been playing American's in a cat and mouse routine. The "Empire" State building might have re-emerged as the tallest building, but the two lines through the S , the dollar symbol of satans saints, will come to not. By taking a shot at control of the oil valves around the world, Dick, Condi, Rummy Bush, those of whom that were all sloted for that special time frame by the elite's fortune tellers, they now know it's mission has failed. At least held back, simply because America is not as stupid as the lap dog media expected you to be.
Don't let them side track you with another inside job , like they did with 911. Common sense would force anyone to ask why would any country attack America now and give them an excuse to blow you off the map? After seeing what has been done to Iraq, you don't pat a rabid dog.
Don't forget to watch Bill Moyers tomorrow on the roles of the press in the invasion of Iraq. It's to be a real hard hitter.
Synchronicity | 04.25.07 - 12:38 am | #
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P.S.---Give me Biblical-only proof that Michael the Archangel isn't Jesus the Christ
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/ ..._details_66.htm
this isnt exactly biblical proof but it is a damnable strong argument, drop the bucks for it if you dare.
the chronology and geography support the theory very well, so does the theology.
Sees Things | 04.25.07 - 12:38 am | #
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Thanks Jake.
nationwide 911 truth exposure=priceless
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 04.24.07 - 11:28 pm | #
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I like your idea. I like your poetic way of writing too.
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About the Honeybees disapperance: There is something the mad sciencists aren't telling us...with all the genetic engeneering with the queens...honeybees don't leave without "A QUEEN" meaning they have a queen with them...if they left without a queen...they are all dead...maybe we should watch the movie "X-files"
They have been fucking with the genetics of the queens like everything else...even our genetics!
You woud think that people out there would have witnessed the honeybees leaving...the sky is black with thousands of honeybees moving like as a force...it can be vey frightening to some...they would have reported it to someone out there...some people when stung by a bee can die...so whats up with this shut?
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WICKED!!!! A video of 9/11 Truth from the producer of the best video on the AIDS Hoax out there. Finally, people from all areas of truth are getting together. : )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h?
v=yVcxP0wTOCo
And who will be taking us to the FEMA camps?
http://video.google.com/videopla...duration%
3Along
http://video.google.com/videopla...duration%
3Along
Blackwater USA, infamous in the Falluja massacre, is proposing an 824-acre facility in a valley just north of Potrero, a small town (~850 ... all ť people) on SR 94 about 1 hour east of San Diego. The project description submitted by Blackwater includes: * Military style training facility on 824 acres in Potrero, California, for 300 students and 60 staff members. * 9 carbine ranges, 300 x 225 ft. each * 1 carbine range, 600 x 225 ft. o NOTE: the Potrero planning group has been told verbally that there would be only 8 ranges instead of 10. * 5 pistol ranges, 150 x 150 ft. each * 2 live-fire fully ballistic multi-level shoot houses, 4,600 sq ft each * 15 live-fire fully ballistic single-level shoot houses, 20 x 60 (1200 sqft) each * 2 mile tactical driving track with gasoline storage tank. * 350 foot diameter EVOC skid pad. * 400 foot diameter helipad * 33,000 square foot urban simulation training area composed of shipping crates stacked to simulate city buildings on paved streets * 1 training tower, 5 level, 40 x 20 ft., 800 sq. ft. total * 1 training tower, 6 level, 24 x 48ft., 1,152 sq. ft. total * 4 ship simulators, 3 levels, indoor-outdoor, made of stacked shipping containers. * 1 Armory building for storage of guns and ammunition, 18,000 sq. ft. * 2 Dormitory buildings, 18,000 sq. ft. each * 2 classroom buildings, 18,000 sq. ft. each * 1 Defensive training building, 10,000 sq. ft. * 1 Dining hall, 10,000 sq. ft. * 1 Facility maintenance building, 18,000 sq. ft. * Various other buildings totaling 13,280 sq. ft.
Even if you don't live in Potrero, you should be concerned about this project. It is converting a sensitive habitat, including a portion of the Cleveland National Forest and bordering BLM lands, into a heavy-use facility with noise (gunfire), water needs and pollution, air pollution, traffic congestion, etc. It is just a very bad idea.
Oh it is all in the Denver International Airport Murals:
This is where the children get pissed at the systematic destruction of the earth (mountain on fire in the background, penguin in glass, dying leapord) and genicide based on race (jewish girl, negro woman, and indian in coffins):
http://www.flydenver.com/guide/a...detail.asp?
ID=8
This is where the children rise up and kill the Blackwater stormtroopers under the auspice of saving the environment and erasing all racism through eliminating borders, merging all flags, singing happy songs, getting weapons on the side, while our English Royal Family Child-King ostensibly destroys weapons over the dead blackwater stormtrooper:
http://www.flydenver.com/guide/a...detail.asp?
ID=7
lock yourself in, its gonna be a bumpy ride.
It was exposed 15 years ago:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
More on the murals and DIA:
http://www.anomalies-
unlimited.c...er_Airport.html
How come Don Imus gets fired and Bill O'Reilly doesn't?
Rosie turned down her contract. Top video, press play for her blog entry this morning.
http://www.rosie.com/
this blackwater in action, mercenaries not accountable to laws our troops are, doing horrible things and more than likely funded by tax dollars.
the mainstream news tells us about contractors being killed in the middle east and we think about CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS.. buildings and repairs etc... not friggin hired hitmen. understand this rhetoric, misleading usage of words.
Sees Things | 04.25.07 - 10:30 am | #
Yup and we are being conditioned to accept prison life as normal through 5 hours a day of MSNBC programming.
Out of 57 "documentaries with minimal commercial time on MSNBC, 23% have the word lockup in the title. On the scheduling site
http://www.msnbc.com/
they only list it as documentary, then programming decides recently to run 80% lockup dockumentaries trumping the other 44.
Here are all the names for the 57 documentaries, notice any other words that make you scared to be alive? How about a documentary on what it means to be a patriot like dan wallace????
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036750/
Super Size Me 'Born in the Wrong Body' Essay: Trapped in a man's body Essay: 'I never felt like a girl' Book excerpt: 'Transparent' Photos: 'Born in the Wrong Body' Killer speaks Journeys with George Predator Raw: The Unseen Tapes Documentary: Medical care in the battle zone War zone diary For God & Country: A Marine snipers story Lockup Q&A: Spring Creek, Alaska Anna Nicole Smith dies after collapse My brother is The Unabomber Death in the Hollywood Hills Children for sale The will to survive Countdown to Doomsday To Catch a Predator: Petaluma Mt. Hood's deadly history Sheriff: Hope climbers are 'in a hole somewhere' A rescuers hope on Mount Hood No Place for a Child Faith and hope in a snow cave Victims struggle to heal in 'Beyond Conviction' Lockup: Riverbend Terror in North Hollywood Lockup: Anamosa Hollywood Vice The Hitman Tapes Beyond Conviction Lockup: Pelican Bay Lockup: San Quentin Coroner: Death on the Street Tattoos: Skin Deep Lockup: Utah State Prison MSNBC Reports: Broken Vows Lockup: New Mexico Death Row Diary The Predator Next Door Lockup: Kern Valley Lockup: Kentucky State MSNBC Investigates: Blood Brothers Lockup: Miami-Dade MSNBC Investigates: Mercy for a Murderer? Baltimore Shock Trauma A Democracy of Photographs Lockup: Valley State 'Rising From Ruin' Essay: New Orleans is still crying Held Hostage Lockup: Corcoran Vegas Homicide, Death in the Desert Lockup: The Criminal Mind The Vampire Killings MSNBC Investigates: Buried Alive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...3zPt0ysxgg&
NR=1
this blackwater in action, mercenaries not accountable to laws our troops are, doing horrible things and more than likely funded by tax dollars.
the mainstream news tells us about contractors being killed in the middle east and we think about CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS.. buildings and repairs etc... not friggin hired hitmen. understand this rhetoric, misleading usage of words.
http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/
its the 1st place winner on this page
silverstein thugs.
Sees Things | 04.25.07 - 9:27 am | #
I thought it was familiar; it is part of the 70 minute documentary that Dan Wallace was doing when he mysteriously died in his sleep at the ripe old "Logan's Run" age of 23. He found out after interviewing Sliver's friend of his limo driver that Sliver got a phone call on 9/11/2001 not to go into work, then called his daughter to cancel their daily breakfast meeting on the top of the tower:
http://video.google.com/videopla...duration%
3Along
Earthlike planet 20 light years away (Hey whose lobbying for the outsourcing rights?):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
pages...in_page_id=1965
WH special investigator is under investigation:
http://www.citizensforethics.org....org/node/
27785
Brzezinski gets confronted by friend of Dan Wallace, son of 911 murdered firefighter that died mysteriously in his sleep a few hours before a scheduled meeting with the producers of the most widely viewed 911 truth film, loose change (getting near half a billion views, translated in over 10 languages):
http://www.calgary911truth.org/
m...iew_brzezi.html
Kevin Tillman's testimony showing total manipulated fraud in 4 special investigations into his brother's murder (BTW - Tillman supposedly had a connection with Noam Chomsky before he was killed by his own men after waving that he was an American soldier-anyone cave corroborating evidence on this???):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h?
v=aUCyr3B3IlM
Jessica Lynch's testimony confirming rumors that her hero story was a total fabrication. She was knocked out and her standard issue gun jammed in the heat of the moment. She never fired a shot):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h?
v=l0OyihqYfF4
Pipe bomb suspect that manipulated stock prices was just arrested:
http://cbs2chicago.com/
topstorie..._115091608.html
Eerily similar techniques to the Unabomber (wonder if they have a similar past?):
http://www.counterpunch.org/tedk.html
And of course all of this follows the 25 year old master plan from the UNCED meeting:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
Thanks to TimM and AK48 for the info
So Texas is going to allow for an expansion of wiretapping to all kinds of communication devices.
And yesterday they allowed for an expansion of the death penalty. Maybe someone can stop it from becoming law.
Thank God they only meet for only 4 months every other year.
Why should it be surprising that these elitist, rich lawyers should do anything to make Texas a more humane and better state. (the only people who could afford to be a congressmen are the well off because it only pays something like $100 a week).
They live in there cozy gated communities and sip mint julibs in their McMansions. And since most are lawyers, they probably make money defending folks who are recipients of their laws.
Do we hear how they want to investigate the possibility that many folks were wrongly convicted in Dallas County?
No they just keep making laws that dog people and put many into their gulags.
Texas warehouses people and treats them like the Nazis treated the Jewish people....
Oh, except they don't gas them.
Texas is like a whole 'nother country.... Hitler's Germany.
mark dice, formerly known as john conner nickname like the terminator movies, also shows some pretty uncool bizarre remote control hunter/killer machines theyve been developing and testing, interesting site.
http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/
http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/
its the 1st place winner on this page
silverstein thugs.
was just a couple days back, linked to the PP site, was one of the contestant videos, outside the new WTC bldg 7.. sorry I'm not that quick finding link.. will post when I find it. john conner thing.
yes indeed great clip!! no camera's, no microphones, sit down and shut up.. take that tape!! the clip of the silverstein thugs was a good one too, you can clearly see the buildings security camera's on the streets but be a citizen with a camcorder .. threaten them and CALL THE POLICE !!! the total hipocrisy of it all. ANYONE can be "with the press" .. recording and reporting news, whether a major outlet is willing to buy it or has you on their paybooks doesnt matter. both of these video's worthy of winning civil rights violations lawsuits in my opinion, they occured at public places, public meetings.
Sees Things | 04.25.07 - 8:50 am | #
Link please....
uhh yup, woke up in a mood this morning lol
and then theres these 'nonexistent' chemtrails..
if a heatseeker took one of those nonexistent planes out of the friggin sky would it suddenly exist? if it didnt exist, how could it have been brought down ?
yes indeed great clip!! no camera's, no microphones, sit down and shut up.. take that tape!! the clip of the silverstein thugs was a good one too, you can clearly see the buildings security camera's on the streets but be a citizen with a camcorder .. threaten them and CALL THE POLICE !!! the total hipocrisy of it all. ANYONE can be "with the press" .. recording and reporting news, whether a major outlet is willing to buy it or has you on their paybooks doesnt matter. both of these video's worthy of winning civil rights violations lawsuits in my opinion, they occured at public places, public meetings.
AK48:
From the link you posted:
http://mindprod.com/politics/asb...s/
asbestos.html
This mysterious death caught my attention:
R. Gregory Stevens co-chairman of the Bush/Cheney Entertainment Task Force, in other words the person who may have been in charge of assigning Jeff Gannon undercover prostitute to entertain Tony Blair. Stevens was only 42 years old and died in a guest room at actress Carrie (Princess Leia) Fisher's home. The motive for Bush to murder Stevens would have been to silence Stevens on what he knew about Gannongate. overdose of cocaine and oxycontin
And Pat Tillman/Noam Chamsky???
Any other evidence???
TimM -
That fucking Brzezinski video is so fricking amazing. Did you catch where Brzezinski says, "sit down and shut up!"
This is one of the most amazing strategic attacks on the wizards I have seen.
Thanks for the Dig dude (reposting for fun ):
http://www.calgary911truth.org/
m...iew_brzezi.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
pages...in_page_id=1773
CIA expert says Damon is too 'fat' for spy film
By TOM MANGOLD - Last updated at 21:41pm on 24th February 200
An expert on the CIA reveals how Hollywood bungled its chance to tell an astonishing true spy story...'I told Matt Damon he'd be a perfect spy - if he wasn't so short, fat, pretty and white', he reveals
It began with a meeting in Chelsea with the film producer Oliver Stone.
'I've bought your book on James Jesus Angleton and I'm going to film it,' he said rather pugnaciously.
'No you haven't, I replied. 'Yes I have,' he insisted.
We worked our way through two bottles of Pinot Noir before it turned out he'd bought a different book about James Jesus Angleton, the former head of counter-intelligence for the CIA, whose biography I had written in 1991.
Then last year I took a call from a film director friend who said: 'Can I bring Matt Damon round to your place tomorrow?
'He's playing Angleton in the film of your book.'
'It's not my book,' I replied wearily, 'but bring him over anyway.'
Damon arrived wearing a woollen hat, T-shirt and jeans. We sat in the drawing room, my wife couldn't take her eyes off him and we gossiped for two hours.
This week Damon's film The Good Shepherd opened in Britain.
It purports to be the story of Angleton, but it is a wholly fictionalised account - and the real, remarkable man has been airbrushed into a Hollywood shape.
'Am I right for the part?' Damon had asked me.
'Look,' I said, 'you're a very handsome, not unduly tall, blue-eyed, blonde-haired, open-faced Caucasian.
Jim Angleton was a 6ft 1in, half-Mexican, sallow-faced, brown-eyed, wide-mouthed, stooping, secretive, ghostly figure who always wore dark clothes and a black homburg.'
I didn't add that Damon is to Angleton what Peter Pan would have been to Marlon Brando.
The Good Shepherd is watchable if overlong.
But why mess with the truth when it is so much more dramatic than Hollywood invention?
Angleton joined the CIA in 1948 and formed a deep friendship with Kim Philby. When Philby was unmasked as an MI6 traitor, Angleton never recovered.
To be the CIA's chief spy-catcher is a rotten enough job without your best friend betraying you.
But Angleton achieved much. He helped buy democracy for Italy and Greece after the war; he understood the true evil of Stalin's regime; he was involved in procuring the top-secret, earth-shaking text of Khrushchev's speech in which Stalin was denounced; he was a one-man praetorian guard for what he perceived were the traditional values of the West.
He had a great sense of humour, too, but the secret world eventually attacked his reason.
He formed a catastrophic liaison with a deeply-flawed KGB defector, Anatoli Golitsin, who convinced him that all future Soviet defectors to the West would be fake.
At home in Washington though, Angleton was a skilled operator, passing on gossip about powerful figures to his bosses in his usual sly and mysterious nose-tapping way.
When one of John F. Kennedy's mistresses was murdered in her Washington apartment, Angleton and his men arrived within minutes of the police alert and (illegally) sanitised the property, removing marijuana, letters and photographs.
'A secret is not a secret unless it stays secret,' he used to tell his wife Cicely if she asked him about his job.
In time, however, alcohol, the influence of Golitsin and post-Philby paranoia began to wreak havoc with Angleton - The Good Shepherd would have worked better if his dark side had been explored on screen.
The truth is, Angleton was responsible for the destruction of several innocent people who were fingered as 'spies' by Golitsin or who fell foul of Angleton's prejudices.
The most disgraceful case was that of Yuriy Nosenko, which is hinted at in a wholly inaccurate sequence in The Good Shepherd.
Just as well - the truth would have left the audience hissing the hero.
Lt Col Yuriy Nosenko defected from the KGB to the West in 1964. He brought with him a treasure trove of Soviet secrets, but Angleton and Golitsin agreed he was a fake.
The Russian was seized by CIA officers in Washington.
Wires were strapped to his head and he was told this was an electroencephalograph, which could read his brain waves - utter nonsense.
He was then held in solitary confinement in a 10ft-square attic.
Endlessly interrogated, he was fed very little food, allowed to wash only once a week and given no radio, television or reading materials.
After 1,277 days he was tied up like a parcel, shot down a laundry chute into a station wagon and taken to a custom-made prison cell for the next two years.
What Nosenko did not know was that a powerful anti-Angleton faction within the CIA was trying to release him.
On March 1, 1969 he was acknowledged to be a genuine defector, formally released and employed by the CIA.
When his personal belongings were returned, his most valuable possession, a Sputnik-commemoration watch, was missing.
He later saw it on the wrist of a CIA doctor who had examined him.
'The handling of Nosenko was a frolic of others,' said a cowardly Angleton as the truth was revealed.He left the CIA, addicted to alcohol and in disgrace - though, to be fair, no real Soviet spy penetrated the CIA on his watch.Perhaps this is material for another film, not one 'based on' true events. This version could be fully documented as an account of the awesome pressures some Cold War warriors had to endure, and the terrible price we must pay for eternal vigilance.Tom Mangold's book Cold Warrior - James Jesus Angleton: The CIA's Master Spy Hunter, is credited in the titles of The Good Shepherd.
Like this country, this comment board is being taken over by crooked dwarves and malformed, subterranean creatures with small brains, undeveloped backbones and no anuses. Having said this, I wonder who will come for me first, O'Reilly's Security Forces or the Wal Mart Secret Police, or maybe just some local Republican Party Death Squad? This country is demonizing right before my eyes and I am powerless to stop it. It IS like being trapped in an episode of Twilight Zone. Our leaders are incapable of telling the truth,and are murdering innocent iraqi and afghani civilians and wasting american service personnel every day in a corrupt and ill-conceived war. Our military leadership is proving, once again, its utter incompetence in executing a successful military campaign---the general brass are a nightmare version of the keystone cops, a bunch of bungling timeservers, and as the Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman coverups reveal, these individuals have no honor or respect for the truth. We have a vice-president who is more concerned with increasing his personal fortune than in saving the lives of American military personnel or in securing the rights of his fellow citizens; we have a president who cannot tell the truth to save his own soul and is actively subverting every enumerated right in the Bill of Rights; we have a national political party that has declared its intent to do away with the Constitution and erect a fascist, totalitarian control over the American political process by fraudulently dominating the electoral process, and excluding non-partisans from the executive branch and the federal court system. We have an entire generation of wealthy Americans who ONLY care about their own personal lifestyle of the rich and famous....american idol ad nauseam. Sellouts, grifters, gangsters and whores of every denomination; hypocrits and liars, traitors, turncoats and judases by the dozens in every government agency; subverters of the US Constitution, killers of children and destroyers of this once-shining Republic. I finally understand what the Bible means when it says, "woe unto the rich, for they have received their reward." Henceforth, there is NOTHING for the rich on the other side of death but judgment and damnation. The sooner they toast this planet, the sooner justice will be served.....sow corruption and deceit, reap death and eternal darkness.
In fact, the NSA guys collecting data on us probably only do it when the boss is around. Otherwise they just chew gum, play paddle+string+ball, look at dirty magazines, and jerk off.
Gabriel Alan King | 04.25.07 - 1:32 am | #
Good point, except for the outsourcing to sweatshops in India ands China where they are whipped if they do not work for 5 seconds.
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the government was gone after george bush stole the election.
I heard rinquist was insane, and heard voices, and at a htoel ran around(they hotel staff called the ploice)that the cia was following him.
Your whole system is corrupt.
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Gabe---i hope you are joking because otherwise you are the enemy.
I live in the Twilight Zone. This NWO is worse than the Planet of the Apes.
I want sharks with freaking laser beams attached to their heads.
Red haired punk. Free credit report.com? Bet he licks his boyfriends nuts.
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God is love, or at least this what the Bible declares. Pharisees and Inquisitors know alot about God, assume everyone else is ignorant, but are strident and harsh in their expression of Christianity, lacking the requisite humility to be able to tap into His love and gentleness. The fruits of God are meekness, kindness, gentleness, longsuffering patience, not being quick to anger or show wrath, humility and lack of pride and self-obsession.......................
"every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire: and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is."
"And though i have the gift of prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge: and though i have all faith, so as to move mountains, AND HAVE NOT LOVE, I AM NOTHING."
"Love suffers long, AND IS KIND; love envies not, is not easily provoked, thinks no evil, rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in truth;"
"And now abides faith, hope and love, but the greatest of these is love."
Hey AK48, I think is the guy that the new Hollywood CIA film The Good Sheppard is made after. Matt Damon sure does look like him in those glasses.
http://
www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...JFKshackley.htm
Joe Cortez | 04.25.07 - 12:29 am | #
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Part 1 -- Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 11:34 am | #
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Part 2 -- Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 11:40 am | #
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And for others here who'd like a link to the article Joe references in post:
http://www.kurtnimmo.com/?p=843
Kurt Nimmo's latest article.
ONLY True Peace,
Jessica Lynch becoming even more vocal.
http://digg.com/politics/
Jessica..._on_her_service
911 truth is mainstream.
Check out this- patriotsquestion911.com
Hillary gets pwned on Aussie TV. This is hillarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=-
BOMOVV2pf0
In fact, the NSA guys collecting data on us probably only do it when the boss is around. Otherwise they just chew gum, play paddle+string+ball, look at dirty magazines, and jerk off.
Don't worry about it. The NSA pays assholes with our tax money to monitor sites like this and compile data bases of dissidents. Notice how you can look at the comment pages without any one else being aware of it? Truthfully, a few of the people who post comments here are probably just bored NSA spies that are full from lunch and tired of playing solitaire.
We need to quit being afraid of what will happen if we do something.
And we need to start being afraid of what will happen if we do nothing. (Guillotines in boxcars, freedom camps?)
"WOLVERINES !!!!!!!"
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."- Braveheart
http://www.digg.com/politics/
Pol...brainwashing_op
More proof that truthers relating 911 with VT are being banished. Read the Bullshit. They are trying to break the connection between 911 and VT.
Many 911 websites are doing it.
They want 911 truth to only hit a few people.
VT reveals the power of mind control, patsies, police v. citizens, anti-social loners v. social elite, connection between multiple events.
They want to keep 911 focused as a single bush event to attack iraq instead of an NWO fuck everyone in the butt event.
VT and 911 and Columbine and OK City and Waco and Ruby Ridge
ALL CONNECTED TO NWO!!!!!!
Each one is a chess move and we got to get on the board instead of watching the moves desperately catching up.
Explosions seen on North Tower as South Tower is impacted. There is so much video manipulation going on out there it's hard to tell what's real anymore. But it's looks genuine. The people falling from the shaking of the buildings as the second plane hits is horrific.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...dgU3dwztU&
eurl=
Odd find, indeed, but probably meaningless. I usually just ignore Words suggestions on grammar as they are wrong more often than not.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.25.07 - 1:12 am | #
Yup and NWO changes in front of your eyes. We will be controlled what can be written.
Micronazisoft word:
Type in:
"I love god but I hate lucifer, and I do not like the seeing eye because it represents the NWO. It sucks ass."
Type it letter for letter with the caps like I did.
Notice anything??????
sane | Homepage | 04.25.07 - 12:52 am | #
That it wants to correct your lack of capitalization of proper names?
Or is that point that it does NOT correct god to God? Possibly because "god" is not necessarily a name, but Lucifer is. If anything, I find it odd that it wants to capitalize seeing eye, unless it figured out the context of what you are typing and determined it was a proper name.
Odd find, indeed, but probably meaningless. I usually just ignore Words suggestions on grammar as they are wrong more often than not.
Once again you drop a bombshell, Mr. Jones. Not in a million years would the majority of we, college students ever learn about the federal connection surrounding attacks like this and Columbine. Thank you for caring enough about your listeners to give us the knowledge with which to rebuild and find peace out of such a terrible event.
One man clothed in righteousness can stand against the hordes of darkness.
If anyone wants my gun, they will get the bullets first. No one will infringe my 2nd amendment rights. NO ONE.
I am not very talented with the computer. Does anyone know how to design web pages? We need to create an online petition to outlaw secrecy, and secret societies in our government. This petition will include a nationwide agreement for citizens arrest.
Once the petitions signatures have reached over 50% of our population, we can set a date, and march on Washington to perform the arrest. Bring a sandwich, a set of handcuffs, and a gun. Alex Jones can bring the bullhorn.
This petition will of course contain an arrest warrant for the 911 perpetrator suspects. We can just issue a large bounty for the Rothschilds, and the Jesuits, and whoever else is found to be connected to treasonous affairs.
Once arrested, they can all await trial at a "freedom camp". We shall also declare Ron Paul as president, immediately following the arrest, and grant him executive emergency powers, so that he can clean up this entire debacle. The military will be placed under Ron Pauls temporary executive power as commander and chief.
Webster Tarpley calls Va Tech massacre a black op.
http://www.digg.com/politics/
Pol...brainwashing_op
Micronazisolft:
Every time you change auto correct or add words to the dictionary. You know like truther, NWO, etc.
The beautiful updates track it.
The surveillance shit is to track us.
When they get a lot of chatter, it is us.
These guys are fucking crazy!!!!!
Micronazisoft word:
Type in:
"I love god but I hate lucifer, and I do not like the seeing eye because it represents the NWO. It sucks ass."
Type it letter for letter with the caps like I did.
Notice anything??????
Don't forget to watch Bill Moyers tomorrow on the roles of the press in the invasion of Iraq. It's to be a real hard hitter.
Synchronicity | 04.25.07 - 12:38 am | #
Your eyes are wide fucking open!!!!!!!!
Peace brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guys, this is fucking priceless!!!! A 9/11 truther, Luke Rudkowski (his friend was the truther Dan, I believe, who got murdered by the NWO) asking Zerbigniew Brzezinski about False Flag Terror.. then getting chased down by security to grab the tape. This is AMAZING!!! Man, I bet Brzezinski regrets so much now mentioning False Flag Terror in congress.
http://www.calgary911truth.org/ m...iew_brzezi.html
http://digg.com/politics/ Zbignie..._11_Priceless_2
TimM | 04.25.07 - 12:26 am | #
NICE FUCKING DIG!!!!!
That guy is playing nicey nice because his daughter is all over 24/7 News - Mika
He wrote the grand chessboard!!!
KICK HIS FUCKING ASSS
That was fucking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But remember - stay 2 steps ahead - he wrote the book, do not underestimate these fuckers.
They already planned us to rise up 25 years ago.
We need to hit the right people - LIKE THAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep going after the right people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not the local fucking police, the fucking WIZARDS and the WIZARD MASTERS
THEY KILLED HIS FUCKING FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY KILLED OUR BROTHERS, SISTERS, MOTHERS, FATHERS, OUR SON DAN!!!!!!
The only thing stopping the new world order and it's executed scrums of controlled chaos is the patriotic belief's of a democratic and honest American system. If the good people of America let her fall, it's all over.
Absolute power, corrupts absolutely, as
the great depression was a carefully contrived occurrence by international bankers seeking to bring about a condition of despair so that they might emerge as the rulers of us all.
-Louis McFadden
Virtual puppets like Rove, Dick, the Neo-Cunt's, they want to be masters of the universe, but there are more people in the United States of America who don't want them to be. Bilderberger members, like the Clinton's are ready to pick up for the same masters where the Bush's left off. More people now know that the bank of England controls America's money system through the Federal Reserve and since the initial takeover of the central banking system have been playing American's in a cat and mouse routine. The "Empire" State building might have re-emerged as the tallest building, but the two lines through the S , the dollar symbol of satans saints, will come to not. By taking a shot at control of the oil valves around the world, Dick, Condi, Rummy Bush, those of whom that were all sloted for that special time frame by the elite's fortune tellers, they now know it's mission has failed. At least held back, simply because America is not as stupid as the lap dog media expected you to be.
Don't let them side track you with another inside job , like they did with 911. Common sense would force anyone to ask why would any country attack America now and give them an excuse to blow you off the map? After seeing what has been done to Iraq, you don't pat a rabid dog.
Don't forget to watch Bill Moyers tomorrow on the roles of the press in the invasion of Iraq. It's to be a real hard hitter.
P.S.---Give me Biblical-only proof that Michael the Archangel isn't Jesus the Christ
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/ ..._details_66.htm
this isnt exactly biblical proof but it is a damnable strong argument, drop the bucks for it if you dare.
the chronology and geography support the theory very well, so does the theology.
P.S.---Give me Biblical-only proof that Michael the Archangel isn't Jesus the Christ
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/
..._details_66.htm
this isnt exactly biblical proof but it is a damnable strong argument, drop the bucks for it if you dare.
Yes!!!! Another physicist joins 9/11 Truth!!!
http://digg.com/politics/
Cal_Tec...ld_Trade_Center
http://www.crooksandliars.com/Me...in-04-23-
07.wmv
I mean look at the kind of people they are with manipulating our thoughts. Guiding our direction.
Look at Pat Tillamn's briother's report to congress on the 4th investigation into his brother's death. He told the co-sponsoring senator, "sir, it is a fraud."
We are being conditioned to distrust the entire govt.
Dems v Reps WTF? While our children die and our country gores bankrupt?
"Fascist America, in 10 easy steps"
Nope, one easy step.
It's called the "Military Commissions Act" of October 2006.
Guys, this is fucking priceless!!!! A 9/11 truther, Luke Rudkowski (his friend was the truther Dan, I believe, who got murdered by the NWO) asking Zerbigniew Brzezinski about False Flag Terror.. then getting chased down by security to grab the tape. This is AMAZING!!! Man, I bet Brzezinski regrets so much now mentioning False Flag Terror in congress.
http://www.calgary911truth.org/
m...iew_brzezi.html
http://digg.com/politics/
Zbignie..._11_Priceless_2
http://thumbsnap.com/v/xJQDkrqC.jpg
..
"We Just Marched In (So We Can Just March Out)"
So "Why the dilemma?"
Well, see, before, it didn't matter what the troops thought (It still sometimes doesn't like in the case of the general that got court martialled...), but now, it turns out it does, and stopping the war NOW is likely to undermine troop morale.
So like, the sole purpose to continue the war is... so that the troops will stay happy. If you don't support the war, you don't support the troops.
Simple.
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 04.25.07 - 12:07 am | #
Thanks for that.
I believe that everyone needs to see the video and the videos from all the meetings like that. We need (when we take down chimp boy) to get the documents on all of the shit, not just 9/11. 9/11 is just one more fucking domino (like that is not bad enough). We need to make friends with police. We need to be in the police. We need to know the spins. We need to tear apart the media oligopoly. And we need to take back our ports and our borders.
9/11 and VT put them together - bankrupt the country on false terror and pin the cops and the people. But the cops will be losing all their funding and the army is being broken.
It has already been reported that after VT, gun sales have jumped!
They are making us arm ourselves against the police. We need to bond with the police.
Every time they do some shit, we need to get to the fuckers and embrace the good one.
instead of Zion v. Nazi
It will be citizen v. authority
We need to be embedded within authority.
Why the fuck else would Texas allow Halliburton child rape chambers unless they wanted us to go fucking crazy against authority.
It is always a handful of people making us fight each other.
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 04.24.07 - 11:10 pm | #
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LOL! How old are you, "Sparky"? You have the nerve to talk to me like a child and to tell me to go back to school, but you can't even spell the most common words. You may be older than you appear, but you sound like your emotional (im)maturity is at about the seventh or eighth grade level, or the equivalent of thirteen or fourteen years old, or maybe even younger. I'm not trying to build myself up at your expense, you lower yourself well enough for yourself, but I'm a 51 year old man with at an emotional maturity of the equivalent of thirty-six to forty-one, with four and half years of college, and having taught myself, with the help of the Holy Spirit of God, in-depth from the time I left college until now, or for the past almost thirty years, since 1978. So, don't hurt yourself with your lies about me, and trying to build yourself up at my expense, because you yourself are clearly so uneducated and highly deceived that I really do have compassion for YOU, unlike your extremely false claims that you love me while you tear me down in your backwards and forwards, contradictive fashion. Teach yourself how to spell and write first, and then tell me you're so educated.
P.S.---Give me Biblical-only proof that Michael the Archangel isn't Jesus the Christ, brainy. If you can prove it, I'm open to it. Even your neighbor-friend Gabe admitted a couple of nights ago that he hasn't read anything in Scripture that says He isn't Michael, or that Michael isn't another name for Christ Jesus, and that it could be so from his perspective that indeed Michael the Archangel could well be Jesus the Christ. Show us your educated prowess, Andrew.
ONLY True Peace,
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 04.24.07 - 11:10 pm | #
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LOL! How old are you, "Sparky"? You have the nerve to talk to me like a child and to tell me to go back to school, but you can't even spell the most common words. You may be older than you appear, but you sound like your emotional (im)maturity is at about the seventh or eighth grade level, or the equivalent of thirteen or fourteen years old, or maybe even younger. I'm not trying to build myself up at your expense, you lower yourself well enough for yourself, but I'm a 51 year old man with at an emotional maturity of the equivalent of thirty-six to forty-one, with four and half years of college, and having taught myself, with the help of the Holy Spirit of God, in-depth from the time I left college until now, or for the past almost thirty years, since 1978. So, don't hurt yourself with your lies about me, and trying to build yourself up at my expense, because you yourself are clearly so uneducated and highly deceived that I really do have compassion for YOU, unlike your extremely false claims that you love me while you tear me down in your backwards and forwards, contradictive fashion. Teach yourself how to spell and write first, and then tell me you're so educated.
P.S.---Give me Biblical-only proof that Michael the Archangel isn't Jesus the Christ, brainy. If you can prove it, I'm open to it. Even your neighbor-friend Gabe admitted a couple of nights ago that he hasn't read anything in Scripture that says He isn't Michael, or that Michael isn't another name for Christ Jesus, and that it could be so from his perspective that indeed Michael the Archangel could well be Jesus the Christ. Show us your educted prowess, Andrew.
ONLY True Peace,
LOOK AT THIS LINK!
http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm
LOOK AT THE CARDS AND HOW THEY ACCURATELY PREDICT 9/11, THE PENTAGON, AND THE ILLUMINATI PLAN FOR POPULATION REDUCTION.
THEN SCROLL DOWN TO THE CARD ENTITLED "Combined Disasters". LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON THE CARD! IT LOOKS LIKE A NUCLEAR ATTACK IN LONDON KNOCKING DOWN THE CLOCK TOWER BIG BEN!!! IS THIS WHAT THE ILLUMINATI IS PLANNING?!?! AND IT WILL COINCIDE WITH OTHER DISASTERS!! LOOK AT THIS!!!!
http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm
[Sorry for caps but I think this is urgent and should be looked at immediatly!!]
yes indeed, AJ spells it out too but takes a lot of attention to other things.. like 70% of the US wildlands handed to the UN , national parks and forests... already done! all our oil wells and refineries owned by BP .. the queen herself, HELLO !! and theyre after all the water, the home I'm in and this land .. I dont have the mineral rights, its owned by some foreign corporation and I cant dig deeper than 20 feet (?!!) all the roads being bought up by cintra and toll booths going up everywhere because these crooked politicians sell the roads that were all funded by the public off as if they were theirs to sell... but this isnt enough control for them at all, not these corporations all owned by the global bankers.. and they DO, by contract, think they OWN the USA , NWO spelled backwards = OWN ! they regard it as an old dog to be put to sleep, literally.
" Potentially Habitable Planet Found "
Oh good! Now we can finish trashing this planet so we can move on to a next. Thank heavens.
Now we don't have to worry about mundane things like global warming, pollution, and/or animal extinction.
FOD
you are spot on
their planning is maybe better than twenty or thirty years allrady planned to the T
it does not diminish what we are supposed to do
but in chess
sometimes you have to use a masterful creative strategy also
they are expecting what we are giving
we play into their hand
but we still got to play it out
the score is 20 to 1 going into the ninth
we need to hit a bunch out of the park, get creative
create a brand new game winning paradigm
something they cannot fathom, nor comprehend
like that master chess player bobby fisher
we know what the grande chessboard is supposed to do next
every patriot post a paper plate with 911 truth on it in black marker
pin it at your front door
spread the word
make it happen
we will see in one week that we have 100 million on board right now
then we shoot for 200 million
we cripple them
a unstoppable first wave of visible numbers and unquenchable momentum
video it
take pictures
blog it
make phone calls
get all of our fellow patriots and americans that care on board and i swear in one week we can rock the boat hard
then plates for issues
plates for votes
then lets see em steal an election
lets take em to the hole
lets crush the media
lets crush the corps
lets crush the enemy
Forgot the video that put it all together (thanks again AK):
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
Sane. Excellent point you made about the prison televised specials. And I agree 100%. It is conditioning. You have a keen talent for observation. What we need is people like you on an independent 911 commission run by the victims families. Lately Kerry admitted "Controlled fashion", and now Giulliani said some wierd shit today to the press about the WTC7 collapse. This is all smoke & mirrors!
Gabriel Alan King | 04.24.07 - 10:39 pm | #
Gabe, I hate to say it but in my humble opinion 9/11 is a pretext for: war on terror (duh)
arab country invasions (double duh)
but here is the stuff they are missing:
purposefully breaking our army (no way this would have happened during the cold war. Now we are just accepting it because there is really no outside threat. No country would dare attack us (too scared of chimp boy and the red button, also as Malcolm X told us "you can't win an occupation anymore,"
So what is going on?
Why is our army being brokenm?
why has the petro gone to the euro and away from the dollar?
Why are we allowing pumping of the stock market?
Why does the 911 truth movement seem unstoppable (not a bad thing of course).
Gabe, as you put it, our country will be in depression, no army , no money for public safety (it is being pumped into false terror threats, VT was a way to help bring us to bankruptcy by overspending on lone killers).
Then the children will be fighting the underfunded police in the streets (the murals in Denver Airport, remember. It is all there!!!!!!!!).
So 9/11 and the truth movement is another plan.
They will lay it on Bush/Cheney, but Roth, Rock, Swarzz, other elites will be untouched.
And then the environmental projects have been hijacked by big business and we can create tsunamis so the borders are smashed and no more going international for our information because it will all be one big world organization with a worlfd consciousness headed by one fricken king.
it will be the little controlling the many to the one controlling all.
Look at movies with superheroes (I never understood it when freeman was saying it -really fucking brilliant guy), look at Matrix. We are being conditioned to accept one ultimate superhero for truth and justice.
And that my friends is why Captain America died.
Because he is being replaced by a superking that will be our only saviour for justice.
Ron Paul etc. realize we need to get more local power, but sub elites are talking about gov being broken and save the environment.
They are pushing it to us and we are pushing back with great leaked 911 info.
WTF - 911 is a fucking inside job, we don't need any more fucking videos.
We need to look 2 steps ahead in this grand chessgame, we are being so fucking led. All these angry kill bush thoughts we have are fucking planned.
They have planned us to rise up 25 fucking years ago. 911 truth has to open its doors to other dots connecting this shit especially VT.
911 and VT show how this game is fucking played.
It is a hijacking of every penny we own and we will be praying for any saviour:
FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC
Gabriel Alan King, This is your friend Sue! Gab, those people in Congress MAJORITY of them are in pure evil New World Order TOO! They HAVE TO BE! Senator Biden wrote a book on how he learned to love the NWO! Spector is pure evil and was involved in murder of JFK, him and his BOGUS single, magic bullet PURE BULLSHIT COVERUP! BOTH CLINTON'S AND BOTH BUSH'S AND OF COURSE PURE EVIL CHENEY TOO AND OTHERS IN CONGRESS AS WELL! THAT IS WHY, CONGRESS WILL NOT IMPEACH BUSH because MOST of them and hell even maybe ALL of them are in bed with him/them in either NWO, Skull and Bones, like Kerry or Council on Foreign Relations! That is WHY we are TOTALLY FUCKED on North American Union too! WE NEED A REVOLUTION, IT IS ONLY WAY TO STOP THESE PURE EVIL BASTARD, Satan worshipping, TRAITORS FROM BOTH PARTIES! I don't see us stopping them without one! And SOON!
the last time i heard the chemtrail topic pop up on alex show he eluded that it was probably nothing?????
has there been some new developements in the
scientific studies
freeman did some great documenteries on the chemtrails vs contrails
also many local reports accross the nation denoting townspeople watching the trails and then witnessing wierd chem build up of yellow dusts and stuff on cars etc
along with spiking levels of sickness like chest and lung problems, respiratory deteriorations etc...
what up with that
they are crop dusting us
time to join together 100 million strong right now
lets all get some white paper plates
take a black marker
write
911 truth on it
pin it up on your doors
everyone pin them up on your own doors
get people on board with interest
pin em up all over
very cheap
grass roots
100 plates 3$
markers 3$
staples 3$
nationwide 911 truth exposure=priceless
http://www.craigslist.org/about/.../ 309485032.html
Bessy | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 8:55 pm | #
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This should be read by all here. Wow. It will keep you in the movement.
Here, Bill O'Reilly is attacking George Soros and the communist left, and tracks the money of Soros' support of MediaMatters and MoveOn.org. This is what makes me think that there is huge infighting in the different aspects of the New World Order. I guess, however, that all this info could be leaked to Fox by the very highest levels of the NWO in order to keep Soros in line. The NWO has to keep both the Nazi left and the Communist Left in line somehow. Who knows. But this is good for us in one respect. Any exposure of following money trails, no matter for what reason, is good in educating the public that you can't just trust what is going on the surface of something. You always have to follow the money, especially Rothschild and Rockefeller money.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...eilly-loses-it/
LOOK SKYWARD EVERYONE. THE CHEMTRAILS ARE COMING TO A HORIZON NEAR YOU!!
Riley
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Riley. Did you listen to Alex show Monday when that guy from 9/11 Truth confronted John Kerry about chemtrails?
there are so many great posters here
all having great things to add and wonderful
inspiration and insight
as i scroll down im teary eyed at the quality statements and candid threads
then
i see this puky peguly spunk by wolf
is everybody clear that when his posts hit it is like buttermilk, like vineger, like rotten underware
wolf prays to the arch angel michael
he knows not of the Christ he speaks
you may as well worship gabriel the arch angel
or metatron
who knows if he confuses Jesus with michael, there is nothing true in him
he missed first base
he forgot the gas
he did not trim his lamp
he has called that which is not the truth as though it was the truth
please go back to school wolfy
so that the next time you blog something it is not leven
we love you, but we do not love the un-truths
stick to the good web pages and the great articles and your fine dude
we need you to stay on track
911 truth, ani-criminal, resist tyrrany
please leave the bible study for idots out of your blogs
Anyway. Going to take a break for real. Got some investigating to do. God Bless Each and Everyone of YOU! Even though we may not all agree how to fight this fight. The fact that we are in it, is ample testimony against the Lords of Darkness...
Riley ; )
Allowing secrecy in our government is the biggest mistake ever for all mankind - Gabe.
Agreed!
Riley
Riley.
"Christians" like Wolf give Christians a bad name. Don't buy into his bullshit.
Sara.
Actually they are starting to let women join in some of the lodges. But you will most likely stay in the lower degrees, unless you are willing to wear a strap on!
Who knows.....lol
I can simulated a male. Dress up.
sara | 04.24.07 - 10:35 pm | #
lol disowned before even adopted.
When the planes cross each other at nearly a 45 degree angle over and over day after day, you begin to realize that something is up. I suggest video-taping them and recording it on a sped up exposure so people can really get the idea how much it is happening.
LOOK SKYWARD EVERYONE. THE CHEMTRAILS ARE COMING TO A HORIZON NEAR YOU!!
Riley
Be sure and get the last word too. I know you can't help yourself. That is most definitely a sign of immaturity.
Riley
Sane. Excellent point you made about the prison televised specials. And I agree 100%. It is conditioning. You have a keen talent for observation. What we need is people like you on an independent 911 commission run by the victims families. Lately Kerry admitted "Controlled fashion", and now Giulliani said some wierd shit today to the press about the WTC7 collapse. This is all smoke & mirrors!
That ought to get you going Wolfy. I have completely given up with u too. We tried to explain ourselves. But you are content with accusing your brethren over and over. That is from the Father of Lies.
Riley
I have not been following the earth movement,lately. I am going to join the Freemasons, scottish rite, and I will tell you what develops. I just want to see.
I cant say were. They are in the small towns of the Dakotas. I ask. I belive police officers go to it. (temple). Just curious. I will take digitals.
sara | 04.24.07 - 10:15 pm | #
-last I'd heard they discriminate against women membership but I might adopt ya.. and did you see the article about hitlery clinton taking on a la raza running mate ... OMFG !!!
Sees Things | 04.24.07 - 10:21 pm | #
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Who knows.....lol
I can simulated a male. Dress up.
Let me guess. If we are to take Wolf's approach. We would never do a damn thing but bitch about the scriptures! What a joke Wolf. And you are the real coward who claims he has a handle on the "only" way to fight this fight.
Reminds me of the person who is sitting ontop of the roof during a massive flood and when a person tosses him the life support, he merely exclaims "No, not me... I am waiting for the finger of God to reach down from the Heavenlies!" C'mon. You're as mind-controlled as the next.
Riley
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Re: This is no place for me. 4:41
Sounds like you want a bowl of Mancow's Manchowder.
Jerk yerself off while you "Git some", punk ass deceiver.
Gabriel Alan King | 04.24.07 - 10:19 pm | #
Your eyes are fucking open!!!
Hi, I was not offended in the least, I was uprised it took so long for you to get to that point.
This person has got a game going on, I cant hit on it, but its either she enjoys antagonizing or she is making a few bucks, I cant get a handle on her motives.
Luv ya Marci, your a dear.--------------------------------------------- ---------------
chris jones | 04.24.07 - 9:00 pm | #
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I appreciate you kind words.
OK, here comes some more random speculation based on zero evidence, but what the fuck. Today I still got free speech so I am gonna use it.
MSNBC has been showing innocent documentaries on prison life for the past year or so. At first I thought it was cool. Wow look at that, terrible.
Then they got more common place. They are running it like 5 hours a fucking day. Then I thought it is good they are allowing us to see how terrible it is and we have the information to help change the system.
NOT!!!!
It is teaching us how to live in prison.
How to make friends
How to get around the rules.
How to join gangs and which ones.
How to get exercise.
How to pray to your religion.
How to conspire against the guards -message even though you are behind 3 feet of concrete, you still have freedoms.
How to get over terrible incidents.
How to get healthcare.
WE ARE BEING CONDITIONED TO ACCEPT PRISON LIFE AS NORMAL!!!!
I have not been following the earth movement,lately. I am going to join the Freemasons, scottish rite, and I will tell you what develops. I just want to see.
I cant say were. They are in the small towns of the Dakotas. I ask. I belive police officers go to it. (temple). Just curious. I will take digitals.
sara | 04.24.07 - 10:15 pm | #
-last I'd heard they discriminate against women membership but I might adopt ya.. and did you see the article about hitlery clinton taking on a la raza running mate ... OMFG !!!
Yes. We are being led.
The people and the police are being police are being positioned against one another. There is no longer a way to make our leaders accountable to us, the common people. They are above us. Beyond investigation. Beyond prosecution. Beyond the Law. Our Senators are weak, and corrupted. So is our Congress. Heroes have been assassinated or silenced. The corporate media is nothing but lies and propaganda. We are being deceived and led into total surveliance, and absolute slavery.
Unless the citizens of this country wake up, and learn the truth, we are headed for a blood bath of Martial Law enslavement. We must promote a citizens arrest of the secret government. A grassroots movement that must grow nationwide. We the people must wake up and place these bastards under arrest. Allowing secrecy in our government is the biggest mistake ever for all mankind. "Separation of Church and State" has gone way too far. Our government must be constrained by some agreed upon simple moral guidelines that cannot be overwritten. Or we are doomed to continually repeat this process.
Our Constitutional rights were also not meant to be tampered with, or overwritten. Where is the accountability of our Senate and House in these regards? We are over run with traitors posing as Republicans and Democrats. It is our generation that MUST put a stop to all of this, for the sake of all future generations. Let us pray to God that truth and justice prevail, together.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...0407EU/?
a=36339
theres some tidbits in there info from "ring of power" had to pause, play back, take notes, to spill some real comments on that thread..
but .. http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808 george hunt's video there is VERY right on track too about these manipulative A-holes and all their biblical begat this-n-that organizations -and free to see right now a huge plus!
Re:sane you have alot of energy. Do you drink red-bulls? If I had just a few watts my computers would run weeks, its amazing.
I have not been following the earth movement,lately. I am going to join the Freemasons, scottish rite, and I will tell you what develops. I just want to see.
I cant say were. They are in the small towns of the Dakotas. I ask. I belive police officers go to it. (temple). Just curious. I will take digitals.
God would never condone your behavior on this board.
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 7:06 pm | #
Have you seen the vid? In my humble opinion it answers a lot more than loose change, and we are being led to think a lot of what we are currentl thinking.
"We cannot leave these matters up to democracy."
We are about to give up ALL OUR RIGHTS:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
Think about everything we are currently doing as only one country and the small amount of people pulling the strings. Now take away 99% of those people and imagine it happening globally instead of federally. Also imagine that there is only one media source, no internet (all controlled).
Truly no where to run and no where to hide.
Roger Waters knows the secret of what happens after we take them away (not suere if he meant it but if he saw the video he would):
The Fletcher Memorial Home
by Roger Waters - performed by Pink Floyd
From the album "The Final Cut : A Requiem for the Post War Dream"
Take all your overgrown infants away somewhere
And build them a home, a little place of their own.
The Fletcher Memorial
Home for Incurable Tyrants and Kings.
And they can appear to themselves every day
On closed circuit T.V.
To make sure they're still real.
It's the only connection they feel.
"Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome:
Reagan and Haig, Mr. Begin and friend, Mrs. Thatcher, and Paisly Mr. Brezhnev and party The ghost of McCarthy And the memories of Nixon And now, adding color, a group of anonymous latin- American Meat packing glitterati
Did they expect us to treat them with any respect?
They can polish their medals and sharpen their
Smiles, and amuse themselves playing games for awhile.
Boom boom, bang bang, lie down you're dead.
Safe in the permanent gaze of a cold glass eye
With their favorite toys
They'll be good girls and boys
In the Fletcher Memorial Home for colonial
Wasters of life and limb.
Is everyone in?
Are you having a nice time?
Now the Final Solution can be applied.
WHO REMAINS WHEN WE GET RID OF THESE GUYS???
Roth????
Rock?????
Schwarzzennegger????
wolf:
what has happened to you ???
God would never condone your behavior on this board.
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 7:06 pm | #
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who is your god?
Any organization is bad, like la raza.
sara | 04.24.07 - 9:51 pm | #
All these organizations are planned and their movements controlled. Check out this video:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
Why are we being conditioned to be so enraged by the government. How can they be this calculating. We truly need to know what we are facing. THe thoughts we are all sharing have been implanted for the next step. Guys, this is huge. We are being led, step by step. To the slaughter.
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
Dude but he keeps hiding behind the russians or the arabs or the jews or the mexicans. Anyone pointing fingers needs to see this ASAP. We are all being fucked by a 10 foot penis for the next 100 generations and everybody is pointing the finger in the wrong direction.
sane | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 9:49 pm | #
exactly and theyve been doing it for near 3 centuries now.. these so called elite are pirate bastards
If only the earth itself could rise up and speak to us .
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chris jones | 04.24.07 - 9:46 pm | #
Yes all true like everything else you say, but watch out. We have actually been conditioned to say shit like that (I am the #1 culprit). We keep looking only one step ahead and the chessmaster is already looking at checkmate. By saving the queen (fake environmental shit) we may be giving up the king (our right to free thinking). Dude, ya gotta see it-37 minutes.
Why the fuck are we always one step behind. The step of "gov don't work" has been planned, we are being led (lied?) to the slaughterhouse.
I can't believe this was made in 1992!
No one would have believed it then.
Look what has happened in the lase 25 years. See if one thing he said is wrong.
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
Thanks AK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/
..._details_66.htm "ring of power" hey, I got it pirated sure, but if people who can afford it grab it, explains a whole lot more how they ALL operate. wish it were free like it oughtta be. rothchild and partners all need to hang for crimes against humanity!
La Raza gets mainstreamed and patronised by celebrities and top politicians.
You all know how a White activist group calling itself "The Race" would be treated in comparison.
To think there are people on here who try and say the NWO is "Nahzees" run by Whites. Oh dear.
Oh wait! Hold on a minute! The NWO is suppressing, media attacking and legally discriminating against Whites to cover up the REEEAAALLL rulers of the NWO who are White! The wizard uses his beef curtains!
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when I suggest that its racist.
Any organization is bad, like la raza.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808 oh yeah frggn rothchild bastard at it again.. this pirate needs a rope necktie!
Sees Things | 04.24.07 - 9:45 pm | #
Dude but he keeps hiding behind the russians or the arabs or the jews or the mexicans. Anyone pointing fingers needs to see this ASAP. We are all being fucked by a 10 foot penis for the next 100 generations and everybody is pointing the finger in the wrong direction.
Chris if you think I have one molecule of common sense, please watch this. If it makes sense have others watch it:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808
sane | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 9:26 pm | #
I tried to see the video, but my sound is on the blink,sory, but if its any consulation we bear witness to the realitys of this nation and world, we dont hide from them, yes, it is a severe dissapointment.
This planet our home is our provider, it can support all of our needs, it is a place of beauty, majestic realy. Its a shame that neither this world nor its people matter to those whos power and need for control is their God. If only the earth itself could rise up and speak to us .
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It's cool brother, I just act like I know more than I do. That combined with being conditioned to fear everything from birth to grave makes it hard to trust. I have watched AK48's video link he posted like 7 times today and I cannot find one word that is not inline with exactly everything going on today. And also there is no blame on reptillian shape shifting cabalists, just easy to understand reasoning and exposure in 37 minutes. I think this is more important than Loose Change.
Have you seen it yet?
http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808
sane | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 9:25 pm | #
Not yet. Trying to catch up with all the crazyness going on in here. I work thrid shift, so I am off to work now, but I will watch it in the morning.
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808 oh yeah frggn rothchild bastard at it again.. this pirate needs a rope necktie!
is the big money. Greed is the name of the game.
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chris jones | 04.24.07 - 9:32 pm | #
Dude it is much worse, see the video, there will not be an internet:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
The Internet seems to be an easy way to get real info and to communicate about non-elite opinions.
sane | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 11:40 am | #
Kip is an old term that means, kind of like a group, or gang, ya know, the good ol boys.
You go it, I guess we dont see joe worker reading financial times.
Dan Rather, an honest man, said it all to them, the news media, needs a spine transplant, and they got the money to do it. The spin is the big money. Greed is the name of the game.
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God help you, I had hope for you, dissapointed doesnt even come close to how i feel.
chris jones | 04.24.07 - 9:19 pm | #
Chris if you think I have one molecule of common sense, please watch this. If it makes sense have others watch it:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
Amen, my friend... straight up thinking there. Can't ALWAYS all get along, can we?
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.24.07 - 9:10 pm | #
It's cool brother, I just act like I know more than I do. That combined with being conditioned to fear everything from birth to grave makes it hard to trust. I have watched AK48's video link he posted like 7 times today and I cannot find one word that is not inline with exactly everything going on today. And also there is no blame on reptillian shape shifting cabalists, just easy to understand reasoning and exposure in 37 minutes. I think this is more important than Loose Change.
Have you seen it yet?
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
oops... if they take their oath seriously at all.
Sees Things | 04.24.07 - 6:15 pm | #
Did you see this yet?
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
Mrs. Pelosi,**** remaked that impeachment of Bush is not worth it, it would cause problems in the future for the Dems.
Mrs. Pelosi, please explain this to the families of the 600,000 innocnet victims in Iraq, to the troops families who lost their loved ones, to the cripples in the VA, to the victims of 911.
How do you people live with yoursleves, I am not nieve but his actions affected millions upon millions, affected this nation, left us bankrupt, war deficit in the 700 billion range, come on please, give the people of this nation some respect. Dont impeach him, arrest him as a criminal, i dont care, but dont let him and his cronys get away with mass murder, high treason, conspiracy, treason, and the moral implications that follow. In legal terms he is a criminal and has broken this nations laws, does that not matter.Are the Bush family above all law, political or civilian, Jeb had his Lincoln Savings, how many billions, Bushes grandad was a nazi colaberator, so we must assume they are above the law of this nation. Is that it Mrs. Pelsoi, just let him walk, as if this will mean all is well in abadaba land.
God help you, I had hope for you, dissapointed doesnt even come close to how i feel.
Impeachy I think you had a valid question that I am sure many who do not post have, thus the elaborate answer. However you seem to be very mysterious with your questions and statements (like what is "True Blue?"). This can leave posters confused, annoyed, or (due to all the BS on the blogs) threatened. We then react with either fight or flight. I am just as guilty of it (as my baseless tantrums with ak yesterday proves).
We have gone from land of the free to land of the paranoid.
I believe that, although the surface of this site may lead people to believe that it creates more paranoia, it does the opposite. By revealing the causes and direction of this mass paranoia creating conspiracy, we can have some sanity in a deliberately manipulated insane world.
Thus, my nick
sane | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 12:09 pm | #
Amen, my friend... straight up thinking there. Can't ALWAYS all get along, can we?
Sane = pawn in game of left-wing White-hating disinfo agents - or one of them.
By the way, people "sane" (ahem!) has been lying to you - and in a VERY BIG WAY. I will post soon addressing this - I tried yesterday but my browser was playing up. Nevertheless, I will post soon detailing the WHOPPING LIES he has the audacity to tell you - lies that are not only audacious but are so basic they directly contradict his posture as a "conspiracy" expert.
Until later, ; ).
PS: Those who leap into using the terms "racist" and "supremacist" about Whites while ignoring the racism/supremacism and facts posted here about other race's hatred are just racist themselves. And using the terminology of the NWO/communist party/ADL/system media.
Q: Why does "sane" act as though he owns this site and is the supreme authority on conspiracy?
Commenter | 04.24.07 - 8:25 pm | #
Hey dude, I ain't no expert and I don't own shit.
I'm just blogging dude. Who said I was an expert. Please nobody believe a word I say research it yourself. IMy opinions are usually based on satire or emotions. Please do not take anything I say seriously at all it is for entertainment only.
By reading anything I write you are agreeing to hold harmless and allow zero liability on the author.
Are we cool commentator? you got a disclosure you wish to share???
http://www.craigslist.org/about/.../ 309485032.html
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this is SOOO sad and absolutely right too.
You hear Alex Jones say, "Don't wait for instructions from headquarters". Well, in this case, concerning God, we're supposed to, AND MUST, get instructions from headquarters first, so to speak; in other words, getting completely right with God FIRST. Otherwise, we're just doing our own will(s), not God's.
ONLY God's will... Truly, Fully and Completely(!!),
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 8:37 pm | #
Sorry dude, we were born with our instructions. Wrong is wrong. This administration has been breaking the country apart in an attempt to bring on the 4th world (as opposed to the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd). I ain't gonna wait for Jerry Falwell's permission to save this country from being dominated by a foreign or domestic power. Who would have thought that the Petro would move to Euro (the plan was laid out before there was an EU).
And now we are going to have to bow to a North American Union to compete.
Way to go chimp boy - mission accomplished.
"SeesThings"
It's not about attacking character - it's about facts and "sane" has been telling brazen lies/misleading people on this forum.
Anyway I care not what you make of it as you have already made up your mind.
Peace friends, this is me,
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 4:45 pm | #
Hi, I was not offended in the least, I was uprised it took so long for you to get to that point.
This person has got a game going on, I cant hit on it, but its either she enjoys antagonizing or she is making a few bucks, I cant get a handle on her motives.
Luv ya Marci, your a dear.---------------------------------------------
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youre gonna try, blast away, I'll watch... but I'd put money on sane for what I've seen already.
this site isnt sposed to be about personal attacks but I see a lot of it here and the prospect of cheep thrills is always entertaining, this wouldnt be an attack on youre charachter, youve just shown me that... lol
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He wouldn't agree with my level of religiousness, or my connecting this quote of his with "bible thumping" as "Sane" puts it; but check out this quote about what we're supposed to really be doing:
"Freedom cannot exist in a muzzled world. Free people must speak to each other and hear each other--they must test and protest and raise hell and shake their leaders (AND EACHOTHER) by the napes of their necks. Our Founding Fathers gave us the supreme weapon of liberty--free speech--and with the First Amendment, guaranteed us that most sacred of rights. But the people have been silenced. They have been administered a new sedative. There they sit placidly, like patients on the third floor of the state hospital, where the bad ones are locked up--their mouths open, their eyes lifeless and glazed, watching television. . . .
". . . .(M)edia techniques can be used--indeed, I argue that they are--to cause Americans to reject their precious rights.
"As newly freed people, our forefathers not only endowed us with the right but charged us with the duty to openly and lustily debate matters of public concern, to warn eachother of new dangers to our liberty, and to hear each other and avoid the ensnaring traps of new masters.....
"The idea that in a democracy a free people should quietly accept the theft of their voice is, indeed, very radical. Our 'eternal vigilance' must have flickered. Did we not understand what was happening to us? What was ours was transformed into the corporate Cyclops, and then turned against us. . . ."
From WITH JUSTICE FOR NONE by
Gerry Spence, Esq.
(Chapter, "New Voices,
Leashing the Corporate Cyclops",
Page 296, First Paragraph)
[Copyright Š 1989 in the U.S.A. and
Internationally by Gerry Spence.
All rights are reserved;
emphasis added by me.]
So I'm NOT "beating people up with" Jesus' words. I'm trying to shake all of you by the nape of the neck to get you to see that we're in the very end of this earth as it is now, and that first and foremost we've, each and every one of us, got to get completely, truly right with God; and that, if we don't have that right first, all of our "works" are only in our own strength alone, and greatly worthless (please don't misinterpret what I just said, you're NOT worthless, the works are).
You hear Alex Jones say, "Don't wait for instructions from headquarters". Well, in this case, concerning God, we're supposed to, AND MUST, get instructions from headquarters first, so to speak; in other words, getting completely right with God FIRST. Otherwise, we're just doing our own will(s), not God's.
ONLY God's will... Truly, Fully and Completely(!!),
La Raza gets mainstreamed and patronised by celebrities and top politicians.
You all know how a White activist group calling itself "The Race" would be treated in comparison.
To think there are people on here who try and say the NWO is "Nahzees" run by Whites. Oh dear.
Oh wait! Hold on a minute! The NWO is suppressing, media attacking and legally discriminating against Whites to cover up the REEEAAALLL rulers of the NWO who are White! The wizard uses his beef curtains!
Civil War - fratricidal war to kill White people
WW1 - fratricidal war to kill White people
WW2 - fratricidal war to kill White people. Communists won.
Sane = pawn in game of left-wing White-hating disinfo agents - or one of them.
By the way, people "sane" (ahem!) has been lying to you - and in a VERY BIG WAY. I will post soon addressing this - I tried yesterday but my browser was playing up. Nevertheless, I will post soon detailing the WHOPPING LIES he has the audacity to tell you - lies that are not only audacious but are so basic they directly contradict his posture as a "conspiracy" expert.
Until later, ; ).
PS: Those who leap into using the terms "racist" and "supremacist" about Whites while ignoring the racism/supremacism and facts posted here about other race's hatred are just racist themselves. And using the terminology of the NWO/communist party/ADL/system media.
Q: Why does "sane" act as though he owns this site and is the supreme authority on conspiracy?
Election fraud and Internet fraud all together. Who'da think-ked.
http://digg.com/politics/
Network...Election_Result
And the SAD part is that most are in denial as to how immediate the threat really is or you would discontinue the petty games. What a bunch of HORSESHIT!!! Your folly will become apparent in the very NEAR future when most of us will be worrying about how to "survive" rather than forming alliances and clicks on some message board.
What a joke!
Riley
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You sound like you "got" it with the above post, then....
I don't give a rats ass about all the control freaks, magalomaniacs, stalkers, and holier-than-thous on this site. Just keep pushing the truth out. I have been preparing all my life to go down with the ship swinging...
Riley
(now into Silent War mode while I shift gears and begin to research some things further).
(Remember, the mind-controllers must be just as paranoid. Who is controlling them?? They know the technology that exists, so they must be scared shitless it is being used on them.)
Anonymous | 04.24.07 - 7:42 pm | #
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....you make this comment and prove that you DON'T get it! That's your problem, and the problem with you bunch of clique-mongers on this forum, YOU DON'T CARE! You don't care about anyone but yourselves and/or your immediate loved ones, friends and clique (if you even really care about them, at least the latter)! You're out for yourselves while building up your egos making it look like, "I'm a great patriot", "I'm going to go down with guns blazing", "See, I'm no coward"! You're a bunch of whimps who, yah, probably will go out by "suicide by cop" on a huge or much smaller scale! Give us ALL a break from your phony, self-centered posturing and posing!
True Peace is ONLY to be found in Jesus the Christ(!!), "signed",
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 7:45 pm | #
C'mon dude, the onanistic bible thumping is getting old. The truth is staing us in the face, watch Shooter in the link above and have some popcorn. Nothing against the Bible and Jesus was one of the first Martyred truthers, but Jesus would want us to practice his words, not beat people up with them.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...com/in...d=188&
Itemid=50
No way this is gonna last watch it while you can...
sane | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 7:56 pm | #
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bless them pirates
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=188&
Itemid=50
No way this is gonna last watch it while you can...
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 7:06 pm | #
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Oh, give me a break from your hypocrisies, Marci! You are nothing but one of the counterfeit, fraudulent, false, hypocrite, so-called "Christians" here; and you're one of the people who can't handle the truth, so you've got to shoot the messenger! I'd ask but you'd probably say "yes"; so, instead: God would not approve of the way your clique behaves on this board either.
I'm fed up, right up to my neck, with your clique's b.s., that's what has happened to me!
I can just hear your fellow-"cliquers" right now, perhaps even you yourself, saying, "Well, then leave, and don't let the door hit you in the rear end on the way out". Actually, Scott's already said it to me, the extremely evil coward. He should be banned himself for his extreme use of bad language alone! Nobody who's truly sane could have any respect you bunch of phony poseurs (look it up, that IS the word that EXACTLY describes you bunch of ignorant cowards hiding behind Alex Jones)!
"It is written, thus says the Lord [God in Jesus the Christ, the Word(s) of God]...." "....Get... BEHIND (Jesus the Christ, you devils)....(!)" "....You are OF your father the devil, and the lies of your father you... do....(!)" (Matthew 16:23 and John 8:44; emphasis added by me),
I don't give a rats ass about all the control freaks, magalomaniacs, stalkers, and holier-than-thous on this site. Just keep pushing the truth out. I have been preparing all my life to go down with the ship swinging...
Riley
(now into Silent War mode while I shift gears and begin to research some things further).
(Remember, the mind-controllers must be just as paranoid. Who is controlling them?? They know the technology that exists, so they must be scared shitless it is being used on them.)
http://www.spychips.com/ - can never get enough exposure
http://oversight.house.gov/Docum.../Docum...10408-
19631.pdf - print before you leave work and let coworkers find it in the morning
http://www.aztlan.net/oiltanker.htm - priceless
http://mindprod.com/politics/asb...s/ asbestos.html - The dangers of politics
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 6:40 pm | #
#1 - Bookmarked will keep up to date like Bradblog with the voting Bullshit
#2 - Seen it, but waiting for the missing Rumsfeld 2.1 trillion document
#3 - I need a mirror
#4 - TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MORE MORE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wolf:
what has happened to you ???
God would never condone your behavior on this board.
http://www.spychips.com/ - can never get enough exposure
http://oversight.house.gov/Docum...10408-
19631.pdf - print before you leave work and let coworkers find it in the morning
http://www.aztlan.net/oiltanker.htm - priceless
http://mindprod.com/politics/asb...s/
asbestos.html - The dangers of politics
Wolf Yeah I am still kicking.Just had to get away from the post as some of the staff here is beyond nuts.I will leave the name out.We pretty much know who I am talking about.I will ignore this being.
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You've got it, Tammy! There's a clique of control freaks here, and it's supposedly okay for them to attack people and defend things with "four letter" expletives; but gods-forbid if newcomers and/or anyone else makes them feel threatened, stands up to them, tells them like it is, defends themselves and/or truth, supposedy "quotes too much Bible" [as if we can possibly quote too much of God's Word(s); or, for some of them, even any)], criticises their high and mighty lord, Alex Jones, isn't completely for a suicidal, violent revolution, etc., then they will go ballistic and attack you up one side and down the other, as you've seen happen to me!
This crap happens on all the "truther" or "patriot" boards. They all too often let them be taken over by such a clique of control freaks, which often even includes the owner and/or webmaster of the board, though I don't think that's the case here, because I don't think the Watson brothers would be sucked into this childish crap. I think they're too busy to keep up with this forum, and/or they're just letting it go to hell until they set up something better on the new "portal" website that Alex has been talking about and his true staff are working on getting setup and online. Maybe they set this site up to divert the crazies away from emailing and spamming them as much. [Sorry guys, if that's the case, for giving it away!]
Anyhow, you rock, Girl! I'm very impressed with and proud of you! You're waking up more and more every day, including to the so-called truthers who want to be in control of everyone and everything they can be. They're part of what's truly destroying the truth movement; and, of course, they're clueless to that fact. They truly believe they've got the movement cornered, only they're right, they've got to try and control everyone else, etc. And, if you stand up to them and/or tell it like it is, as I already said, you're right, LOOK OUT, you're the next target for their wrath! The old saying for this evil phenomenon ought to be, "Hell hath no fury like a control freak, blind follower, violence and hate monger, 'truther' scorned!"
Sis, I'm diverting their scorn away from you (hopefully), and I'll take the heat while you go on to bigger and better things! Don't let these burning, negatively-compromised "castles", so to speak, get you down, discourage or distract you from getting the True Work done! For kicks, if you can laugh at it and not let it depress you, watch how I'll probably be "flamed" up one side and down the other for speaking the truth they don't want to hear or see! They "shoot down" their own who don't conform to their narrowminded, control-freak, "cultish" clique! They can't stand or handle constructive criticism, people calling them on their shit, and/or anyone standing up to them. They're "little gods" bowing prostate at the feet of their "big dog" god who must supposedly not be questioned, or the wrath of the clique cult will descend down upon you with no mercy, unless of course they think they got you to kiss their behinds, but they won't tolerate, at all, anyone who doesn't kiss anyone's rear end, that's for sure!
ONLY 100% Truth, in the Prince of "ONLY True Peace", Jesus the Christ's name(!!),
oops... if they take their oath seriously at all.
yupyup, pray they take swearing in to protect this nation and constitution against enemies both foreign and domestic... and start with the domestic ones first!! the foreign ones would probably begin to respect us again after that.
Oh and for all the NSA/CIA/State Dept/Secret Service etc. officers/workers. Thank you for your kind service and for taking an oath on this:
.................THE BILL OF RIGHTS.................
.........Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution.....
The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution;
Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States; all or any of which articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the said Constitution, namely:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/
..._details_66.htm
only bummer there being the pricetag on it..
great documentary for real.
call the cops.
(@_@)
sara | 04.24.07 - 5:23 pm | #
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sara.... sara !! ;p
hows the little stalkling?
Kinda wondering why I got a call from Las Vegas myself today with (origin blocked). Wierd shit going on here.
Riley
Anonymous | 04.24.07 - 4:50 pm | #
Uh dude, why the fuck do we care if they come to get us????????
They are coming anyway!!!!!!!!!!
BLOG BLOG BLOG..........
Kinda wondering why I got a call from Las Vegas myself today with (origin blocked). Wierd shit going on here.
Riley
Anonymous | 04.24.07 - 4:50 pm | #
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told you so.
call the cops.
(@_@)
re sane
Who are these guys? What role have they played in the development of all NATO intelligence organisations? Makes one wonder if the war really ended, and why really won/will win.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Rei...Reinhard_Gehlen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ott...i/ Otto_Skorzeny
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 4:52 pm | #
Dude I am stealing all your shit and posting it everywhere, keep it fucking coming, let's break this fucking dam!!!!!!
Riley,
Sorry, I don'f understand what you're referring to. Who called, and what did they say?
Thanks
If anyone can get highlights of this Horizon program to be uploaded, I'd like to see it.
Fire control technology..if it's given the go-ahead and the BBC gets involved..well, I personally believe that all it will do is allow certain people to create 911 scenario's much easier than they have already. And you can bet your last dollar, there will be a private interest building this system, one that is accountable only to itself. Just like the US electronic voting system.
This Horizon program has basically inferred that fires brought down the WTC buildings, despite the official investigation being inconclusive. Sounds to me like the BBC is pushing an agenda and this would not be the first time I have seen this. Certainly won't be the last I bet..
Re: Professor Fired Over VTech Comments
This, while unfortunate for the professor and all that America once stood for, is actually great news. Finally, universities are being outed for what they've become: NWO indoctrination and brainwashing centers. The more they act this way the more we'll have the opportunity to see their true colors as enemies of free thought and free speech and genuine criticism and patriotism and conscientious objection.
re sane
Who are these guys? What role have they played in the development of all NATO intelligence organisations? Makes one wonder if the war really ended, and why really won/will win.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Rei...Reinhard_Gehlen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ott...i/
Otto_Skorzeny
Correction: I'd rather be a coward and die on my feet, than live in denial, on my knees.
Apologies for my oversight.
Kinda wondering why I got a call from Las Vegas myself today with (origin blocked). Wierd shit going on here.
Riley
'Prison Planet is for Cowards.'
I'd rather be a coward and die on my knees than live in denial, on my feet. For I know in my heart that what I am fighting for..what I am defending here..is right and just. Until that time approaches, I sleep sound at night like millions of other across the planet who have also realised we are fighting a global war, a war of information.
'It is my opinion that Alex and his team of goons are all weak big mouths.'
And it is your right to have an opinion. It's also mine.
Does that opinion take into account the fact that the 911 issue is more than Alex Jones? Doesn't your opinion lead you to question just what the hell is happening to this country..it's constitution..it's freedoms..it's people?
Irrespective of your take on Alex and his team, these problems aren't going away - in fact, they're getting worse.
James, chris jones:
In the heat of the moment I told the shill to stfu today. Sorry if I offended. I only said it once. The shill is reposting all day.
This is going to continue until we all walk away.
Peace friends, this is me,
Prison Planet is for Cowards.
Alex showed us his true colors when ManCow bitch slapped him months ago. I should have read the writing on the wall back then. It is my opinion that Alex and his team of goons are all weak big mouths.
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http://www.preferrednetwork.com/
..._details_66.htm
is ring of power description
RE: WTC collapse.
Anyone seen this program:
Tuesday, 24 Apr 2007
9:00pm - 9:50pm (50 minutes)
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Skyscraper Fire Fighters
An investigation into the work of Edinburgh University's Professor Jose Torero, who claim that he has developed a revolutionary new method of protecting firefighters from death in burning skyscrapers. Even with disasters such as the September 11 attacks so fresh in the memory, the professor believes that the lessons of these catastrophes have not yet been learned
- x -
"Bang, bang, bang..that's what it sounded like to me..like a high-speed pile driver..I thought to myself, how could this be? It did not seem possible or real."
- Witness, 911 WTC fall.
"The official investigation concluded that the collapse was due to extreme temperatures weakening the structure of the tower"
- BBC.
..the BBC then instantly gets some guy to talk about winds and earthquakes. Then goes on to talk about incredible heat over multiple floors - BULL. The fires weren't at the base. Similar buildings have also burned for DAYS.
This is a classic example of the BBC trying to act as a front over something it claims to be entirely impartial. It claims that fire destroyed the WTC yet there is NO evidence of this.
..and naturally, there was no "cock-up" in getting footage to try and prove that fire brought those buildings down, which wasn't proved at all.
All the BBC has done is claim that if this system was installed in the towes it could have given the firefighters 30mins more to plan in advance of it falling. This theory is bogus for it relies upon the premise that fire brought down these buildings.
I'M SICK OF THESE LIES FROM THE MEDIA. STOP USING THESE PROGRAMS AS A FRONT.
911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/
...sovereignty.htm
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/
...sovereignty.htm
think I maybe found amenstop people
re sane
Im happy you liked the page Its enough to keep anyone busy for a few days.
Speaking of movies, you probably saw this one before, but if not: http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808
If you manage to get through it you will be a wiser but surely more worried man
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 4:24 pm | #
FUCK YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KEEP IT COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MORE MORE MORE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WH created an investigator to investigate the WH, Cafferty just said, "what are they nuts, that is like Charles Manson investigating his murders."
Banned by webmaster. Your comments will not be added
Enter your comment at the foot of the page (Please be aware that comments are moderated).
Because he and his goons are all afraid of someone with brains writing posts.
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Wake up Fools, or better yet, stay in hiding and leave the rest of us alone!
Losers
re sane
Im happy you liked the page Its enough to keep anyone busy for a few days.
Speaking of movies, you probably saw this one before, but if not: http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
If you manage to get through it you will be a wiser but surely more worried man
BTW,
just 2 let u know
i am NOT joining the
so called revolution
it is all BS.
]==-,
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 4:05 pm | #
There is something to be aware of here guys...my take on the search for the truth fueling violence is a parallel to the way they have been fucking us for generations. The real way to destroy them is simple...passive resistance (from my post on another thread):
illuminati have been praying for anarchy (that is why Cheney and Buffett were in a bunker on 911-911 was a test complete with data analysis).
What they truly fear is passive resistance, that makes them go completely fucking haywire.
They were so pissed that the LSD thing created so many peaceful thinkers in passive resistence movements (they did win with the women's lib thing though). They really wanted the musicians to create a world of fucking satanists and went crazy when the music created more free thinking and exposure of the folly of authority and polarity.
The passive resistence going on with the internet is really making them nuts so they pay shills to divert many conversations only to be exposed as having alterior motifs.
So much of their shit backfires and then they go crazy and blow up shit (oldie but goody) and sacrifice more of our children.
Roger Waters' Final Cut (Last Pink Floyd album with him) simplifies the whole fucking thing, espechially the fletcher memorial.
BTW,
just 2 let u know
i am NOT joining the
so called revolution
it is all BS.
]==-,
I imagine the Wiccan symbol they are allowing for soldiers graves now, is an Illuminati symbol
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/23...e.ap/
index.html
"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."
Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group, California Medical School, 1961
More proof of the Rockefeller family's Classical Luciferian tradition. A look at the gardens around the families Kykuit Estate in NY. Statues and sculptures like "Black Sun", "Jubilee" and "Moon Path" all have satanic meanings. Check it out yourselves:
http://www.hudsonvalley.org/
pres...kykuit_ext.html
Homeland Security existed before 9/11???
http://digg.com/politics/
9_11_Ho...ted_BEFORE_9_11
When it comes to having explosive info, that page kicks the nuts clean off most other pages. And it has been up for ages without any sign of going down
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 3:04 pm | #
I love the name of the site. Besides the historical analogies, it reminds me of the movie SPARTAN (Val Kilmer)
Thought it was a good fiction when I first saw it, now it looks like a frickin documentary of 2 year old events.
Marcianne,
This is not like you. Are you alright?
Well, We love ya!
james | 04.24.07 - 1:07 pm | #
Marcianne.. me too.
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Hello!
[url=http://soma-g7fd.blogspot.com/]soma[/url] http://soma-g7fd.blogspot.com/
Cao!
When it comes to having explosive info, that page kicks the nuts clean off most other pages. And it has been up for ages without any sign of going down
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 3:04 pm | #
MORE MORE MORE
I want More, give me More.
http://
www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...Airancontra.htm
MORE TRUTH MORE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great Fucking Site!
When it comes to having explosive info, that page kicks the nuts clean off most other pages. And it has been up for ages without any sign of going down
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 3:04 pm | #
TYVM!!!!!!
Can you locate the hidden WTC steel link, please?
Why don't you shut the fck up?
Why don't you shut the fck up?
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 11:58 am | # | 04.24.07 - 11:58 am | #
marcianne.
your web page with the forest and wolf.
your server, we have your apartment addy.
the other one.
Is joanne bishop.
seems, he three sons and one
adult grown up daughter JJ.
play of jeff renses forums.
They bounced around the Internet.
She has an adult son named richard dan bishop a felon. stole computers. hes a parole. Richard Dan Bishop carried his stalking to peoples residences, and the cops know. jaonne bishop, and richard dan bishop, and his adult brother greg bishop from oregon.
The police cheif of Las Vegas knows them, went to their residence many,many times, she tried to commit suicide.
They continued to stalk, and worse.
There is also a restaining order on one of the abusers. As you saw they are delutional, and dangerous. Marcienne could be greg bishops ex-wife. They live in Oregon. Richard will break into homes, when someone disagrees with him, or his mother(hes 45).
Richard dan bishop moved from his mothers home, and moved down the street, and his neighbor said he borrowed money and left in a hurry as forcloseure took place. The daughter hangs around Bar in Las Vegas. Theres pictures of this, the Bar I forgot the name.
They basicaly stalk art bell and radio hosts, and have been into trouble and terminted from many message BBs, and servers. They like to "taunt" posters.etc.
Its just they keep satlking anyone whos has a different view.
Joanne Bishop is on medication. Richard Dan Bishop is a felon.
They broke into my home and the police/sherriffs know they did. Its serious. I was affraid on Alex Jones family. Richard is armed and dangerous.
There address is 4072 Pleasant st.
Las Vegas ,Nevada.
I have both Marianne addy to.
chris jones,
Were you a ground pounder?
james | 04.24.07 - 12:47 pm | #
Hi James, I was in direct support unit 25th.Inf.on the Cambodian border, a place called Tay Ninh, some called it rocket city, we got rockets on us about daily, all kinds of underground bunkers. Mostly did night security, Listening posts, back up to Firebases, and the good days was a shotgun run to a different locale.Before that was 11ACR Blackhorse B.C. a place called Xuan loc.
theres not links to "Ring of Power" by amenstop productions, theres tons of other links to those words yes. what I have is a 688 Mb avi file about 5 hrs long obtained 'other places' of course.
its probably banned or censored by many groups for what it tells.. very straightforward real information about secret societies, 911, and near blasphemous about origins of christianity too -falls right into secret societies category too!
re sane
Too much info on this page? Hardly It wont be shut down for that reason i can assure you. Here´s a page that should worry if your statement had any merit:
http://
www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...JFKshackley.htm
When it comes to having explosive info, that page kicks the nuts clean off most other pages. And it has been up for ages without any sign of going down
Thanks, James. But I just pick stuff up out of Digg's new story section.
Only 3% of Pakistanis believe that Al-Qaeda did 9/11
http://digg.com/world_news/
POLL_..._Queda_Did_9_11
BTW other threads are still trying to promote the illuminati divide and conquer technique, so I will share my response. Hope it is not too elementary for you guys:
Do you actually believe the BS about conspiracy based on race?
Don't you know that race hate is an illuminati trick (no matter what the racial composition of the illuminati)
Civil War - Illuminati to get federal power over the state powers (Racist southerners were pawns in this game)
WWI - Illuminati caused it to shift public thinking about the need to go to war
WWII - Illuminati created it to create the UN or one world government (Nazis and Jews were pawns)
War on Terror - Illuminati created to take away all civil liberties and create TOTAL ENSLAVEMENT - Illuminati created Islamic Fundamentalism and look how those poor bastards are being slaughtered as collateral damage while they steal our liberties.
OMG, I just submitted Terrorstorm to www.reddit.com and after 10 minutes it disappeared completely from the system. I called it something that would catch peoples' eye. Terrorstorm - A history of False Flag Terror: Blow things up, Blame it on others, Fool the Voters, Go to War.
Then I did a search for Terrorstorm on the site to see if it was still there. Mine was gone. These versions with less explicative titles were still there, burried. Unbelievable. : (
http://reddit.com/search?q=terrorstorm
Sees Things. Try re-posting the link a few times to get some attention. Probably getting lost in the riff-raff...
Riley
yuppers, am dissappointed for e-mailing to PP offering this "Ring of Power" video I keep plugging that was produced by amenstop productions. it'd be a great addition for truthers and waking people up by sharing it.. dissappointed for zero response. my cynical side thinks the PP crew more interested in their own video sales, which isnt a good feeling at all, knowing the video's FULL of great information.
probably has multiple huge gas mains going into a major part of it too
Sees Things | 04.24.07 - 1:39 pm | #
Did you hear in the Mainscream Talking Head Screws are talking about that lethal injection isn't "HUMANE", so could we be starting to see them introduce the Guillotine, as HUMANE, watch where this goes.
UNITEDWEREFALLING | 04.24.07 - 1:38 pm | #
Shit man, that stuff although obviously true really makes me want to put my head in the sand.
Guess I will let you into my mind, come on it, the air is safe...
Must pull it out of the sand and keep communicating.
Must keep fighting for this country and its citizens.
Must be at least 10% as courageous as our founding fathers and protectors of our freedoms.
Must resist the easy way out.
Must continue to share and investigate and connect the obvious dots.
Must be a TRUE PATRIOT!
BTW guys, if this info is useful to you, save this page often, it most likely will be killed soon, there is just a bit too much info on it. I have seen it done before. It won't be by Jones/Watson. blogging software is compromisable and can be shut down at any time.
IMPEACH THAT POS NOW!
IMPEACH | 04.24.07 - 1:32 pm | #
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your a nut.
a criminal.
.
.
.
a stalker.
the really sad part is people acting as operatives thinking theyre doing something good exposing and listing "dissenters" are actually harming the people and constitution they swore in to uphold and protect.
Sees Things | 04.24.07 - 1:28 pm | #
It is worse than that. Neo-Cons, KKK, Neo-Nazis, religious fanatics who were put into different positions under the guise that they would be the chosen ones are and have always been deceived. They are used by Illuminati like pawns in the plans for the NWO, for reference see WWII. Most of the germans were scapegoated while the elites were put in project paperclip, etc. The same thing was done in the civil war, in the war on terror (Illuminati created islamic fundamentalism under the guise of protecting USA from communists-it did not exist before the Ruski/Afghan war-now look at those poor bastards being schredded). They create opposing factions, have them kill each other, then protect the planners (Iran Contra exposed a lot of this-the real criminals walked while millions of Iranians and Iraqis were slaughtered-the son of the most guitly person is in the WH).
So the question to the shills is, can't you see you are a pawn to be slaughtered? I doubt an elite would waste time here.
See American History X for more about the cowards that manipulate kids with hate to do their dirty work.
PAWNS ARE ALWAYS KILLED FOR THE GOOD OF THE ELITES
probably has multiple huge gas mains going into a major part of it too
Did you hear in the Mainscream Talking Head Screws are talking about that lethal injection isn't "HUMANE", so could we be starting to see them introduce the Guillotine, as HUMANE, watch where this goes.
Cheney has served America honorably for 40 years?!? WTF???? All he's done beginning with his many deferments to get out of serving in Vietnam is learn and use the system to his benefit to get wealthy, powerful, and take more control. Bush is a skuller with not much in that skull but a loyal puppet for sure,,,Dickey is an evil paranoid f*head who is actually more dangerous beleiving in his fears than if he was just a fuckoff like W. He would rather us nuke Iran and start WW3 on the premise that down the road maybe when Iran aquires nukes they will sign off on a suicide mission and use them on us or that irritant state of Israel. Bullshit!!!! These fucks want war cause they get richer and richer from a prolonged & wider war....they care not about America or American's at all or else the borders would not be wide open to illegals while stripping away our freedoms at home...freedoms from you and I...the real Americans. Impeach, Imprision, Immediatly. Of course what will happen will happen and we really have no control here anymore but it's good to vent and at least feel free....soon that will be gone also. Peace
OH yes, in the state I live in they built a new prison and it's right near railroad tracks. We already have a huge prison in this state.
IMPEACH THAT POS NOW!
James: I've said many times Baby Bush is our last selected President and our first Pricktraitor, Prick,Dictator and Traitor in one. Something will happen so there won't be another election(selection), it's just a show.
the really sad part is people acting as operatives thinking theyre doing something good exposing and listing "dissenters" are actually harming the people and constitution they swore in to uphold and protect.
TO JPJ-I NEVER SAID ALEX JONES STAFF IS NUTS SO STOP PUTTING WORDS I DID NOT SAY IN MY NAME.YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE NUTS AND YES YOU ARE SARA SO SHUT THE FCK UP WITCH.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 12:20 pm | #
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your so trasparent.
macianne.
the work fck.
gave you away.
stalker.
.
.
.
you are one.
uno
.
.
O.K. I get it. jpj is Sara's sister right? ahemm...
Riley
jpj | 04.24.07 - 1:20 pm | #
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yup, vince (*mcmahon WWE wrestling promoter) was obvious enough. twisted for sure.
I will truly be surprised if this country has another so called election.
I really do expect that Bush will call marshal law.
That is why this cabal has over 600 FEMA Camps built and is building Federal Prisons at an alarming rate.
We are in real trouble in this country.
Why don't you shut the fck up?
Why don't you shut the fck up?
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 11:58 am | # | 04.24.07 - 11:58 am | #
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sicko.
i am hal on the computer.
you have a bad sence of cuss.
stalker.
cho's ex-right?
leave sister sara alone.
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.
.
Poster earlier about the systematic effort of AEI and fronts to connect 911 truthers with VT, the plan etc, can be found on this thread:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../?
a=41589#67528
But here is just some of the proof from yesterdays pow-wow:
It is all over the blogs, here will be the connection:
Loner-anti-social-anti-govt-anti-rich-anti-
establishment...
911 Truthers are being today called anti-establishment anti-american and crazy (Rosie anyone????)
CALL THE COPS!!!!!!!!
_________________________
SMOKING GUN #1 (MORE TO COME)
Check out this blog entry just yesterday:
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Dude, the debunking of the truth about 911 being an inside job is so 2003. Catch up.
Every intelligence officer in the world knows it. Just need to get rid of Gonzo to pursue it without unnecessary obstruction.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 11:44 am | #
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Catch up?... Maybe you should sober up. This inside job stuff is major psycho stuff. You're not armed by any chance are you? Hopefully you're nowhere near any campuses. Repeat after me..."the voices in my head are not real....the voices in my head are not real". Ok...now ..this time all by yourself...."the voices......"
Tell Elvis that Vince said "hey" when you see him.
Vince | 04.23.07 - 1:14 pm | #
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They are all over the blogs, paid by AEI or fronts to connect 911 truthers with VT.
WATCH FOR IT
I just posted that to make a point. Can never be sure can we?
That is just one of the probs with this site I suppose. No definitive link back to the origin of the post.
Riley
Anonymous | 04.24.07 - 1:03 pm | #
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mr. know it all.
the stalkers are yours.
just dont disagree with the two female
"nuts".
creepy.
.
.
..
copy/paste works.
blog gone.
comments11, now.
(those two control freaks/stalkers.
did the comments1/---9. ruined them.
the staff is "sane"
lol
Why don't you shut the fck up?
Why don't you shut the fck up?
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 11:58 am | # | 04.24.07 - 11:58 am | #
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Marcianne,
This is not like you. Are you alright?
Well, We love ya!
the drawbacks of the blog, yes posting addies is cool to go look, but theres not private chat and theres not sharing of good audio and video stuff..
and of course refreshes and scrolling to find stuff
between some bickerings
I just posted that to make a point. Can never be sure can we?
That is just one of the probs with this site I suppose. No definitive link back to the origin of the post.
Riley
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.24.07 - 11:16 am | #
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Ok it is obvious I am the new target-see ya
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 11:16 am | #
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To JpJ ,I have only been here a few weeks and I do not understand everything and someone said to me that they thought that this was a white supremasy site.I know it is about 911 and the evil stuff,however with Sara and her multiple post names and her obvious hate of mexicans ,it made me wonder.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 11:13 am | #
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a simple question from sane and your a target.
you are nuts you know?
thought your were going?
the blog is not your home.
flameing,spamming, wont help.
after lieing you did call alex jones staff"nuts"
wright a book titled.
how stalkers are created on the Internet.
you disagree.
your a crimminal.
both your insane posts today show this.
weakness.
.
.
.
Thanks.
SeesThings
lol no, , a listener to AJ about a year and new to posting here this week.. and an online chat veteran some 6 years too that really doesnt like drama.. were this my chatroom lots would hate being kickbanned and gagged for some of the stuff
why don't you stalk sara?
nut
jpj | 04.24.07 - 11:45 am | #
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Why don't you shut the fck up?
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 11:58 am | #
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i don't have the answer.
why don't you and that other gal.
stalk sara.
i am sure thats what "stalkers" like yourself on the
Internet do best.
its to bad, we know who both you idiots are.
the cops to.
funny.
.
.
stalk here more.
guess my stuff is getting purposefully downgraded by some, so for the benefit of the casual observer...welcome to the magic of reposting:
Timm: Bill Maher talks about PNAC. This isn't too bad. But he doesn't talk about False Flag Terror. This is so key right now.
Yup and he failed to mention the puppet masters of PNAC - AEI. You guys want to know why the fuck our kids are dying???????
Look at this from media controlled Wikipedia (every fucking one has committed crimes against humanity through their bribes, lies, and blackmail):
* John R. Bolton, former U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations.
* Lynne Cheney, wife of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, AEI senior fellow.
* Mark Falcoff, Resident Scholar Emeritus and Latin America expert.
* David Frum, an author and former speechwriter for Bush, is a resident fellow.
* Reuel Marc Gerecht is a resident fellow. He is the director of the Project for the New American Century's Middle East Initiative and a former Middle East specialist at the CIA.
* Newt Gingrich, member of the Republican Party and Speaker of the United States House of Representatives between 1995 and 1999, is a senior fellow at AEI focusing on health care (he has founded the Center for Health Transformation), information technology, the military, and politics.
* James K. Glassman, author of Dow 36,000, is a resident fellow.
* Michael Greve is the John G. Searle Scholar and director of AEI's Federalism Project.
* Frederick M. Hess studies education policy and is executive director of Education Next.
* Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a former Dutch politician, women's rights activist and critic of Islamism & Shar'ia Law.
Frederick Kagan is a military historian and signatory of Project for the New American Century manifesto titled Rebuilding America's Defenses (2000) along with his brother Robert (co-founder of the PNAC) and his father and fellow neo-conservative, Donald Kagan.
* Jeane Kirkpatrick was the former U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations and was an AEI senior fellow until she died in 2006.
* Michael Ledeen was previously involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair an adventure that he documented in his book, Perilous Statecraft: An Insider's Account of the Iran-Contra Affair.
* Allan Meltzer is one of the foremost academics studying monetary policy and the Federal Reserve Bank. He, along with economist Milton Friedman, pioneered monetarism, the now widely accepted theory that inflation is entirely the result of the growth of the money supply. Meltzer is currently working on the second volume of his History of the Federal Reserve.
* Joshua Muravchik is a resident scholar. He researches Middle East politics, democracy, neoconservatism and the history of socialism.
* Charles Murray, an influential policy writer and a researcher, is the W.H. Brady Scholar in Culture and Freedom. He is best known as the co-author of the controversial 1994 book, The Bell Curve.
* Michael Novak is the George Frederick Jewett Scholar in Religion, Philosophy and Public Policy and Director of Social and Political Studies at the institute. He has written extensively about the role of faith in government.
* Norman Ornstein has been a Congressional analyst and political commentator for more than thirty five years.
* Richard Perle served on the United States Defense Policy Board and is a former Assistant Secretary of Defense.
* Sally Satel is a psychiatrist and author of PC, M.D.: How Political Correctness is Corrupting Medicine.
* Christina Hoff Sommers is a critic of the feminist movement. She is the author of Who Stole Feminism and The War Against Boys.
* Fred Thompson, Television and film actor, currently appearing on the television show Law & Order, former U.S. Senator, is a visiting fellow.
* Ben Wattenberg, a speechwriter for President Lyndon B. Johnson, is a senior fellow.
* John Yoo, formerly of the Office of Legal Counsel, and a professor at Boalt Hall, is a visiting scholar.
AEI Funders
* The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc.* Castle Rock Foundation* Coors Brewing Company* Earhart Foundation* ExxonMobil* JM Foundation* Microsoft Corporation [1]* Philip M. McKenna Foundation, Inc.* John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.* Rockefeller Brothers Fund[14]* Sarah Scaife Foundation* Scaife Family Foundation* Smith Richardson Foundation
Connections (from sourcewatch.org)
* The Center for the Study of American Business and the Center for Strategic and International Studies are said to be spinoffs of the AEI (Saloma, 1984). * The Business Roundtable: according to journalist Sidney Blumenthal, making contributions to AEI was a pitch made at almost every policy committee meeting of the Roundtable * During the 80s, staff members funded with the hawkish anticommunist group Committee on the Present Danger. * Staff alumni Jeane Kirkpatrick and William Simon were vice president and chairman of the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund. * Alumni Michael Novak and Irving Kristol co-founded the Coalition for a Democratic Majority * Heritage Foundation * Council for National Policy * Center for Strategic and International Studies* Center for Security Policy founded by Frank Gaffney, Jr. with an alleged mission to "promote peace through American strength".
chris jones,
Were you a ground pounder?
Wolf Yeah I am still kicking.Just had to get away from the post as some of the staff here is beyond nuts.I will leave the name out.We pretty much know who I am talking about.I will ignore this being.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 10:38 am | #
the staff is "sane" your
a nut
wack
job.
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.
Riley,
I think you are right !
If we as a people can't get a handle on this cabal soon, it will be beyound our power to win.
I love my country. I want America back.
In Vietnam, there were, whites, blacks, Mexicans, Puerto Rican, Indians, Hawians, in the same unit. There were Protestants, Catholics, Jews,Evangelsits, Catholics, Buddists, Agnostics, Athiests, to name a few.
We were together, and attempting to survive. We should all be doing the same thing here and now, not only for survival, but for our freedoms as Citizens of this land.
And to, for those innocent human beings being slaughtered, imagine 600,000 infants, children, woman and men in a pile up.It would make the twin towers look like a toothpick.
Many of you have chidren, how fuhken hideus to even think of their death. Nightmarish is it not, does the thought give trembles, cause hair to stand on end, panic. As it well should.
Consider, the infants in Iraq, picture the kids kicking around a ball, and then imagine bloody rags with the remains of these these same children..Imagine scraping the body parts of your children from the walls and floors so you may properly bury them.This is but a keyhole looking into the door of war, I pary those who choose not to see where this country is headed and what it has done do not ever have to pass through the door of that keyhole, and I continue to pray they open their hearts and minds to the destruction,death,misery and suffering we have wrought. Beleive, in this pack of human waste who now control us, Never, if people can not see where we are headed, if they can not feel the suffering and death and not feel anything, if they are so pitifully brainwashed they beleive in the bloodsukers running us,they are doomed in more ways than one.
Bush, Cheney, Rumsy,Rice, Gonzales, Rove, hell the whole gang of them, do you think they give a shit about the suffering and death. Do you think they realy care. They are pathological liars and deceivers, sold out elitists. Determined to take over this land. May they live with the stench of death in ther nostirls, may they crawl among the dead infants for eternity. May all their fortunes be confiscated and returned to this land, any firm that profited from this war, confiscate their profits, IMPEACH , DETaIN, and a trial for High Treason, conspiracy, deceiving Americans, mass murder to name a few.
CSPAN-3
Pat Tillman's mom is kicking the shit out of the congressional shills trying to convince us that the true horrors in the Iraq War are not worth investigating till the end.
YOU GO GIRL!!!!
When the video is posted of his brother's opening statement, watch it and weep for how little this administration supports our troops. And how the admin manipulates our dead children's memories for their political gain.
There is no longer any debate. Pat Tillman was used like the horse in Animal Farm (after his death and maybe during, before that he was one of the bravest men on the planet and no one should forget it). This outing of the grand conspiracy to polarize this country into continuing the illegal action in Iraq is HUGE!
And the SAD part is that most are in denial as to how immediate the threat really is or you would discontinue the petty games. What a bunch of HORSESHIT!!! Your folly will become apparent in the very NEAR future when most of us will be worrying about how to "survive" rather than forming alliances and clicks on some message board.
What a joke!
Riley
i can just sense another.
bitch fight.
right,ipeachy?
thought you left for good.
back?
lier.
who wants to relate to liers, and
cuss types?
fck?
not!
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TimM | 04.24.07 - 12:33 pm | #
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I am sorry for telling you that I thought you were wrong on the bird flu thing a couple of weeks ago.
Some time a person should just wait and see.
Right Timm?
Is jpj really Sara? Is Gabriel now SeesThings?? Seems there is some game playing going on here. Just remember. People who approach PP for the first time are getting the wrong impression about the honest people who are working hard to destroy the lies around us. Why must we decieve one another??
Riley
WOW What the heck is going on in here, reading back, shit everyone is busy attacking each others character, you're doing exactly what they want, everyone on the same land hating and destroying each other, you are brainwashed by evil and are playing into their hands. SHAME ON YOU!!!Get on with the task at hand.
impressive post sane, more real info naming names than listening to AJ for a year!
Sees Things | 04.24.07 - 12:26 pm | #
The evidence is staring us in the face. AEI pays the media oligopoly (actually there is an undercurrent of a symbiotic relationship, but I digress) to get their shills all over the fucking place. The staged 2 minute debates clutter our minds with BS talking points that feed their way to our daily conversations polarizing us and blinding us.
Just look at the source of the problem, the disease not the symptoms. Go to sourcewatch.org and similar sites that show the conspiracy in black and white. It is sitting right there.
From Sourcewatch.org on AEI connections:
Connections
* The Center for the Study of American Business and the Center for Strategic and International Studies are said to be spinoffs of the AEI (Saloma, 1984).
* The Business Roundtable: according to journalist Sidney Blumenthal, making contributions to AEI was a pitch made at almost every policy committee meeting of the Roundtable
* During the 80s, staff members funded with the hawkish anticommunist group Committee on the Present Danger.
* Staff alumni Jeane Kirkpatrick and William Simon were vice president and chairman of the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund.
* Alumni Michael Novak and Irving Kristol co-founded the Coalition for a Democratic Majority
* Heritage Foundation
* Council for National Policy
* Center for Strategic and International Studies
* Center for Security Policy founded by Frank Gaffney, Jr. with an alleged mission to "promote peace through American strength".
Timm,
You should be a reporter brother.
You come up with the good stuff.
I knew this Bird Flu thing was a hoax. I could feel it in my bones.
http://digg.com/politics/
Donald_..._Response_To_It
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Wolf Yeah I am still kicking.Just had to get away from the post as some of the staff here is beyond nuts.I will leave the name out.We pretty much know who I am talking about.I will ignore this being.
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he must be hard as nails considering what he has done so far.
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 10:30 am | #
He does seem to have an impenatrable shield from decades of integrity. When the shills attack, after a few minutes they are usually left dumbfounded as to why they even fought. The Glenn Beck interview was precious. Jones is a great man.
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its here you called the staff "nuts"
stop spamming it down.
nut
Crhistopher Shay asked about what is wrong with the inspector general report that he (R-CT) co-pursued into Pat Tillman's death.
Pat Tillman's Brother's response, after giving an example in the report of an apparent cover-up:
"The whole thing is a fraud sir!"
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
impressive post sane, more real info naming names than listening to AJ for a year!
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 12:03 pm | #
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I understand totally. I have been here for many months, and am now part of a group of regulars that e-mail each other with special links.
We have never seen this kind of invasion. And that is clearly what it is.
I think your idea for your dvd is good. Don't be scared to pass them out. Once you do it a couple of times you get used to telling people straight out. Grocery clerks. Gas station attendants. Etc. People are hungry for truth.
There was an article published in March in a porn magazine about 9/11. So I went in the party store and showed it to the owner and told him to read the article. He had no idea.
You will be fine girl.
Don't allow the words from ignorant people get to you!
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 12:13 pm | #
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you go to adult book stores?
is that were you larned to spell fck?
sara is correct.
what adult arcade booth do you go to?
take granny with you.
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invade?
nut
TO JPJ-I NEVER SAID ALEX JONES STAFF IS NUTS SO STOP PUTTING WORDS I DID NOT SAY IN MY NAME.YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE NUTS AND YES YOU ARE SARA SO SHUT THE FCK UP WITCH.
video stuff .. with google, yahoo and youtube pulling video's and messing up links, get the little app that lets you download these videos so they still exist somewheres.
I'm not anyone wealthy, but converting dvd or avi format to an mpeg-1 VCD format.. some quality losses yes, but blanks are a lot cheaper and they will play in most all dvd players, VCD burned.
Bill Maher talks about PNAC. This isn't too bad. But he doesn't talk about False Flag Terror. This is so key right now.
http://digg.com/ political_opinio...st_See#c6321685
TimM | 04.24.07 - 12:09 pm | #
Yup and he failed to mention the puppet masters of PNAC - AEI. You guys want to know why the fuck our kids are dying???????
Look at this from media controlled Wikipedia (every fucking one has committed crimes against humanity through their bribes, lies, and blackmail):
* John R. Bolton, former U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations.
* Lynne Cheney, wife of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, AEI senior fellow.
* Mark Falcoff, Resident Scholar Emeritus and Latin America expert.
* David Frum, an author and former speechwriter for Bush, is a resident fellow.
* Reuel Marc Gerecht is a resident fellow. He is the director of the Project for the New American Century's Middle East Initiative and a former Middle East specialist at the CIA.
* Newt Gingrich, member of the Republican Party and Speaker of the United States House of Representatives between 1995 and 1999, is a senior fellow at AEI focusing on health care (he has founded the Center for Health Transformation), information technology, the military, and politics.
* James K. Glassman, author of Dow 36,000, is a resident fellow.
* Michael Greve is the John G. Searle Scholar and director of AEI's Federalism Project.
* Frederick M. Hess studies education policy and is executive director of Education Next.
* Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a former Dutch politician, women's rights activist and critic of Islamism & Shar'ia Law.
Frederick Kagan is a military historian and signatory of Project for the New American Century manifesto titled Rebuilding America's Defenses (2000) along with his brother Robert (co-founder of the PNAC) and his father and fellow neo-conservative, Donald Kagan.
* Jeane Kirkpatrick was the former U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations and was an AEI senior fellow until she died in 2006.
* Michael Ledeen was previously involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair an adventure that he documented in his book, Perilous Statecraft: An Insider's Account of the Iran-Contra Affair.
* Allan Meltzer is one of the foremost academics studying monetary policy and the Federal Reserve Bank. He, along with economist Milton Friedman, pioneered monetarism, the now widely accepted theory that inflation is entirely the result of the growth of the money supply. Meltzer is currently working on the second volume of his History of the Federal Reserve.
* Joshua Muravchik is a resident scholar. He researches Middle East politics, democracy, neoconservatism and the history of socialism.
* Charles Murray, an influential policy writer and a researcher, is the W.H. Brady Scholar in Culture and Freedom. He is best known as the co-author of the controversial 1994 book, The Bell Curve.
* Michael Novak is the George Frederick Jewett Scholar in Religion, Philosophy and Public Policy and Director of Social and Political Studies at the institute. He has written extensively about the role of faith in government.
* Norman Ornstein has been a Congressional analyst and political commentator for more than thirty five years.
* Richard Perle served on the United States Defense Policy Board and is a former Assistant Secretary of Defense.
* Sally Satel is a psychiatrist and author of PC, M.D.: How Political Correctness is Corrupting Medicine.
* Christina Hoff Sommers is a critic of the feminist movement. She is the author of Who Stole Feminism and The War Against Boys.
* Fred Thompson, Television and film actor, currently appearing on the television show Law & Order, former U.S. Senator, is a visiting fellow.
* Ben Wattenberg, a speechwriter for President Lyndon B. Johnson, is a senior fellow.
* John Yoo, formerly of the Office of Legal Counsel, and a professor at Boalt Hall, is a visiting scholar.
AEI Funders
* The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc.
* Castle Rock Foundation
* Coors Brewing Company
* Earhart Foundation
* ExxonMobil
* JM Foundation
* Microsoft Corporation [1]
* Philip M. McKenna Foundation, Inc.
* John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
* Rockefeller Brothers Fund[14]
* Sarah Scaife Foundation
* Scaife Family Foundation
* Smith Richardson Foundation
Marcianne,Thanks for your kind words.I may email you after all.I really appreciate the kindness.Thanks again.I am gonna go now.Bye
Jpj,AKA SARA.You have misunderstood me and I am better off on my own.I am true blue and just sick of the merry go round here.If you were true blue you would just answer my questions like Sane did without the insults.
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delutional.
two rabid twins.
alex jones staff is "nut"s?
nut
(wack job)
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IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 12:03 pm | #
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I understand totally. I have been here for many months, and am now part of a group of regulars that e-mail each other with special links.
We have never seen this kind of invasion. And that is clearly what it is.
I think your idea for your dvd is good. Don't be scared to pass them out. Once you do it a couple of times you get used to telling people straight out. Grocery clerks. Gas station attendants. Etc. People are hungry for truth.
There was an article published in March in a porn magazine about 9/11. So I went in the party store and showed it to the owner and told him to read the article. He had no idea.
You will be fine girl.
Don't allow the words from ignorant people get to you!
I say true blue meaning I am not someone trying to cause trouble and I am on the real patriots side.I know I am paranoid of everyone but I am sure you can understand,I am not used to this stuff and trying to filter out good and bad is difficult.
why don't you stalk sara?
nut
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Why don't you shut the fck up?
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fck?
hardly, sis, you could not give your puss
away.
its used.
clap.
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.
To JpJ ,I have only been here a few weeks and I do not understand everything and someone said to me that they thought that this was a white supremasy site.I know it is about 911 and the evil stuff,however with Sara and her multiple post names and her obvious hate of mexicans ,it made me wonder.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 11:13 am | #
yup, that'd target ya.. it isnt a white supremist site, sara dont hate mexicans either, she hates reconquista, she hates la raza.. big differences.
Impeachy I think you had a valid question that I am sure many who do not post have, thus the elaborate answer. However you seem to be very mysterious with your questions and statements (like what is "True Blue?"). This can leave posters confused, annoyed, or (due to all the BS on the blogs) threatened. We then react with either fight or flight. I am just as guilty of it (as my baseless tantrums with ak yesterday proves).
We have gone from land of the free to land of the paranoid.
I believe that, although the surface of this site may lead people to believe that it creates more paranoia, it does the opposite. By revealing the causes and direction of this mass paranoia creating conspiracy, we can have some sanity in a deliberately manipulated insane world.
Thus, my nick
Bill Maher talks about PNAC. This isn't too bad. But he doesn't talk about False Flag Terror. This is so key right now.
http://digg.com/
political_opinio...st_See#c6321685
JPJ YOU ARE SARA AS YOU TYPE LIKE HER.SO WHY DON'T YOU SHUT THE FCK UP.Gabe cusses alot and you say nothing to him....hummmmm-now I am being sucked into your little world again.
why don't you stalk sara?
nut
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Why don't you shut the fck up?
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same school of profanity?
two nuts.
two peas in a pod.
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.
Bush fatigue'
what a stupid theory by Bush father man these people will never understand. Wether it is Bush, Clinton or whoever Big brother Illuminatti decide to put there, it is always be the same just a different face. PEOPLE ARE FED UP of all you evil rich elites who want to control this planet. That is what it is all about. Sending men and woman to war to kill innocent abroad, that is criminal and the criminals eventually will be brought to justice. More and More soldiers will wake up the the evil they are part of and will realise it is time for desertion and join the light for what is right PEACE and LOVE.
You have been created to be loving and not killers and war people to kill humanity.
May the light switch on in your brains before this world goes any further.
Marcianne Hi ,I would email you but I am scared to email anyone because I never know anymore who to trust.I like you alot as you seem sensible but forgive me that I cannot email anyone.I am sorry.While I got you on though I wanted to know if you think it is dumb if I put the V for vendetta movie trailor on in the begining of the loose change tapes and the terrostorm tapes before I give them out.I put it on hold till I got some more advice from the people here.
Ok it is obvious I am the new target-see ya
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To JpJ ,I have only been here a few weeks and I do not understand everything and someone said to me that they thought that this was a white supremasy site.I know it is about 911 and the evil stuff,however with Sara and her multiple post names and her obvious hate of mexicans ,it made me wonder.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 11:13 am | #
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your a target alright.
thats an understatement.
nut
why don't you stalk sara?
nut
jpj | 04.24.07 - 11:45 am | #
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Why don't you shut the fck up?
Jpj,AKA SARA.You have misunderstood me and I am better off on my own.I am true blue and just sick of the merry go round here.If you were true blue you would just answer my questions like Sane did without the insults.
Ok it is obvious I am the new target-see ya
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 11:16 am | #
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Impeachy. Don't let these rude posters get you down. E-mail me please. Address below.
I want to hear about your activism.
Peace,
http://www.latimes.com/news/
opin...0,4084076.story
George McGovern: Cheney is wrong about me, wrong about war
The 1972 presidential nominee strikes back at the vice president for comparing today's Democrats to the McGovern platform.
By George S. McGovern, GEORGE S. MCGOVERN, a former U.S. senator from South Dakota, was the Democratic nominee for president in 1972.
April 24, 2007
t is my firm belief that the Cheney-Bush team has committed offenses that are worse than those that drove Nixon, Vice President Spiro Agnew and Atty. Gen. John Mitchell from office after 1972. Indeed, as their repeated violations of the Constitution and federal statutes, as well as their repudiation of international law, come under increased consideration, I expect to see Cheney and Bush forced to resign their offices before 2008 is over.
Aside from a growing list of impeachable offenses, the vice president has demonstrated his ignorance of foreign policy by attacking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for visiting Syria. Apparently he thinks it is wrong to visit important Middle East states that sometimes disagree with us. Isn't it generally agreed that Nixon's greatest achievement was talking to the Chinese Communist leaders, which opened the door to that nation? And wasn't President Reagan's greatest achievement talking with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev until the two men worked out an end to the Cold War? Does Cheney believe that it's better to go to war rather than talk with countries with which we have differences?
We, of course, already know that when Cheney endorses a war, he exempts himself from participation. On second thought, maybe it's wise to keep Cheney off the battlefield he might end up shooting his comrades rather than the enemy.
On a more serious note, instead of listening to the foolishness of the neoconservative ideologues, the Cheney-Bush team might better heed the words of a real conservative, Edmund Burke: "A conscientious man would be cautious how he dealt in blood."
Ok it is obvious I am the new target-see ya
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Sane was asking a valid question.
Now your a target?
Calling the "staff" at Alex Jones nuts.
when you leave we can smell the "sulfer/ash as you gone.
Vententa against Alex?
sensative today?
why don't you stalk sara?
nut
The soon to be plummeting economy is now hitting elite websites:
http://www.2000wave.com/article....sp?
id=mwo042007
It will come as no surprise to this audience that there are a few things that worry me. I often write about problems in the markets. Subprime mortgage contagion, earnings shortfalls, a slowdown in consumer spending are all on my worry list.
But I am not just your average amateur worrier. I am a professional worrier. I get paid to worry. For a professional, worrying is an art form. The amateur worrier spends way too much time worrying about events that are likely to happen. A true professional worries about the unlikely events that create the most problems. It is the things we are not worried about which can cause us the most harm.
For instance, I am not worried that the subprime mortgage debacle might cause a recession. I think it will bring us a garden-variety recession. I have lived through five recessions, a few market crashes, and other economic upheavals in my adult life and expect to live through that many more problems in the future. My portfolio and business are built to withstand a recession or two, so I don't worry about it.
What worries me about the problems in the mortgage market is the possibility, however small, that we will see a credit liquidity crunch that will bring about more than a simple recession. I think it unlikely, but I can see a path that makes it possible. The capital ratio at US banks is at its lowest level since 2001, and with more losses coming from mortgage and consumer lending, it is possible that banks will tighten up lending practices. We are already seeing some anecdotal evidence of tighter lending standards and a reduction in consumer lending. Enough to throw us into a serious recession? While unlikely, it is something to pay attention to, because that would change things and maybe require some portfolio adjustments, as well as bring new opportunities.
In what may seem like a contradiction, a professional worrier must be an optimist. Spending too much of your time worrying can lead to inaction and not getting into the fray. There are two types of people who lose in today's markets. First, there are those who are pessimists and do not get into any investments at all, staying in cash. That is a strategy that is guaranteed to lose you buying power, as inflation and taxes eat into your portfolio.
Second, there are the unabashed bulls that chase the latest investment fad, often when it is coming to an end. $90 billion dollars went into mutual funds in January of 2000. I am told that 80% went into Janus funds, some of which went down by 75% or more. Sometimes they do ring a bell.
The correct position is cautious optimism. At the risk of repeating myself, the way to be in the top 10% of all investors in 2017 is to simply be above average each and every year for the next ten years. That is harder than it sounds. Many investors create portfolios based on historical data that is unlikely to repeat, or choose investments which may well be outstanding in most years but have some awful years as well. The enemy of compounding is losing. You can and should be cautious, but you need to be in the game if you are going to be above average.
Past Performance Predicts Future Disaster
I was at Rob Arnott's Advisory Panel meeting last week, coincidentally here in La Jolla. I had the great pleasure of listening to Professor Harry Markowitz (who developed Modern Portfolio Theory and got the Nobel Prize for it) comment at length on the presentations. He told one story that I have to share with you, as it illustrates quite well the problems faced by professional worriers.
It seems his son is an attorney (of whom Harry was clearly quite proud) and was defending an interesting client. The case involved the client, who had lost $100 million for a group of Indian tribes, and they were upset. However, they weren't quite the innocents. It seems they were not satisfied with typical returns and wanted to make a little more. They specifically instructed the money manager to invest in loans which paid 22%. Basically, these were loans to resorts and vacation spots. The manager, in an effort to protect the principle, diversified the loan portfolio by making lots of loans, thus trying to insulate the portfolio from the problem of any one or two loans going bad. 22% a year can make up a lot of losses if you can keep the losses small.
What happens, however, if a majority of the loans go bad all at once? That would clearly be a bad thing, but how could that happen? Past performance of the loans suggested that the concept was sound. However, a bad thing did happen as vacation travel plummeted after 9/11 and the follow-on recessions. Evidently, projects were cancelled or halted and the tribes who thought they were diversified against risk found they were not. Whether it was property in the US, the Caribbean, or wherever, they all were hurt in the aftermath.
Interestingly, there were five different expert witnesses (both for the defense and the tribes) that testified on diversification and modern portfolio theory. Evidently all were aware of the irony of being questioned by the son of the developer of the theory.
Long Term Capital Management is another case in point. The Nobel laureates associated with that firm had run extensive risk analysis on all the historical data. These were not wild gunslingers. They were clearly convinced that they had covered the risks.
And they had covered all the risks that were in the historical databases. However, there was one piece of data that was not in the historical numbers, and that was the effect of Long Term Capital itself. LTCM became the market and the connection between markets that had never shown any correlation. As they had to sell seemingly unconnected investments to meet margin calls, the pressure on all of the markets ratcheted up simultaneously. And the more they had to sell, the worse it got.
The same thing with Amaranth last fall. They had PhDs running around doing analysis on risk, based on historical data, but someone forgot to factor in what it means when you become such a large part of a relatively small natural gas market that you can no longer meaningfully hedge or exit a losing position. They were averaging down into a losing trade, which is nearly always a mistake, but their market activities were of such size they distorted the market signals. Before they realized, they were getting margin calls, and the size of their own trades to raise cash was making the market move against them.
Interestingly, the trader (Brian Hunter) and his team that lost $6 billion at Amaranth are now raising money for a new fund. According to people who have read their material, there is a great deal of emphasis on risk control. Imagine that. How special. Even more amazing is that he has reportedly gotten commitments for several hundred million dollars. As an aside, you will not see that fund on any platform offered by myself or my partners. Sometimes the best risk control is to avoid it altogether.
A few years ago, I took the due diligence questionnaires for hedge funds from a number of firms (I think it was approaching ten) that analyze hedge funds, and then worked through them to compare the various documents. They all had different sets of questions. After a while I think I spotted a pattern. You could see that the differences were basically in things that had probably caused problems for the firm. They added a series of questions that were designed to make sure they never had those problems again.
I can tell you that my analysis has more depth to it than five or ten years ago, or even a few years ago. Every time there is a problem, and you hope it is the other guy and not you having it, a new set of questions appears to try and deal with that risk in the future. And you can make book on the fact that in five years the questionnaires for fund managers will have even more questions. It is always the questions that you don't ask, the data that you didn't know about, that is the problem.
chris jones | 04.24.07 - 11:34 am | #
I am not familiar with Kip?
But this is true MSM/Trade Journals and some new clever ones:
Elevator news/Subway/taxi cab news/etc.
Much of these cater to elites and pump them with bullshit to either keep them in their bubble or convince them that they are the crazy ones if they think differently.
The Internet seems to be an easy way to get real info and to communicate about non-elite opinions.
I hear you. If you ever want to talk off board,
marcianne_98@sbcglobal.net
Goes for you impeachy.
Good News:
Huge investigation into Rove revealed
Bad News:
Kucinich delays Cheney impeachment (I am liking him less and less)
Rawstory.com
Americans DO NOT get the real story in Americas main stream media.
james | 04.24.07 - 11:00 am | #
We use to call it the the one eyed monster.Its not the TV its the News Media. There bought and paid for. There part of the ol Kip, ya know.
though there are some coming forward, Like Rosie, or C.Sheen, celeb types. when you think about it there is but a few methods of getting information to the people, The tube and the journals. The average John Q. that is. Who pulls the string on this information. Control does.
Hey Joe, they have been lulling the pople into a state of control for decades. Their sources do not stop with media control.
To JpJ ,I have only been here a few weeks and I do not understand everything and someone said to me that they thought that this was a white supremasy site.I know it is about 911 and the evil stuff,however with Sara and her multiple post names and her obvious hate of mexicans ,it made me wonder.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 11:13 am | #
I have seen much evidence of this being a site in search of truth and a communication tool to inform us of our dwindling freedoms.
I also have seen evidence that these efforts have systematically blockaded by many that try to divert the conversation to a white supremecy conversation. Look back at some of the statements, the comments are usually obvious and come out of nowhere.
This is an attempt (like has been done with many 911 truth sites) to change the direction to one that will polarize the public. It is a rudimentary way of dividing the truth movement.
The comments show up in different ways on different sites, I have posted the examples a few times, but here it is for your amusement (particular to the recent VT massacre and the propaganda aftermath thwarting us from the truth):
Liberal Blogs:
-stop the racism against asians
-gun control is important
-stop stalkers who endanger women's rights
-this is not about immigration guys
-how can we protect our kids from monsters
Conservative blogs (just about the opposite):
-They are trying to take our guns, if those kids had guns they would be alive
-Women always make men crazy
-He was connected to islamic messages
-We have to close the borders
-He looks like a killer, those students were pussies, I woulda taken him out
Conspiracy blogs:
-This is connected to a zionist conspiracy
-He was a shape shifting alien from the planet omfgtheybelvme
-This all has to do with numerology, look at the numbers 4-16-2007 = 911
-If you don't stop talking about this and start talking about 911-I'm leaving
-Only the scriptures will save us, do nothing for Jesus will save all
Hi Sane,
Yes, I've seen the DU babies. Heartbreaking stuff and they still claim that DU is safe.
Bush, Blair, Cheney = War criminals.
This is another thing for the US/UK soldiers to consider. How can they allow their governments to continue to expose them to these things?
Thanks again for the info!
Best regards, Anthony
re The Amazing Kretzkin
Dont worry too much about Professor Jones, actually he is the one who says "I wanna know"
Besides that he is a big boy and can certainly take care of himself. He is one of the founders of the scholar movement and he has recieved both threats and attempts of bribes for what he has done. Steven Jones may look soft but he must be hard as nails considering what he has done so far.
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 10:30 am | #
Agreed. But it was still embarassing and disrepectful. You do not expect that treatment from people you trust. It stings a little more when you trust someone. But, yeah, he'll get over it. He took it in stride. My point is that it should not have been done to him. Without him and his work, all we would have is "circumstancial evidence" which doesn't hold up in court very well.
Ok it is obvious I am the new target-see ya
To JpJ ,I have only been here a few weeks and I do not understand everything and someone said to me that they thought that this was a white supremasy site.I know it is about 911 and the evil stuff,however with Sara and her multiple post names and her obvious hate of mexicans ,it made me wonder.
Sane.which part?
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 11:04 am | #
all of it
I just read some stuff about the horrific levels of cancer in Iraq. I pray for all of the victims of this carnage and an end to tyranny.
I've started following the US news very closely, because whether for good or evil, the USA is leading the way into the future for all of us on this planet.
Anthony65 | 04.24.07 - 11:02 am | #
The cancer is mostly due to the unprecedented amount of DU everywhere. Mortality rate is over 10x what it should be and the poisoning travels through sperm to the unborn. The demonic looking babies it produces is shocking. over 500K US soldiers from Gulf War I have symptoms and over 1 million from this war are expected to have worse cases as this war is lasting almost 4 years longer than the last one.
To find out more, go here:
http://masters-of-war.org/
deathc...thculture2.html
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Joe / James,
I stopped watching TV about 3 years ago. We have a TV, but zero reception, so we just watch videos and DVDs (mainly for my 3 little ones).
I've also reached the point where I only touch the mainstream media (newspapers, websites) to find out what lies they're telling. Fortunately any good stuff gets filtered out by people on sites like PrisonPlanet.
Also I have another Question for the staff here.Is this a white supremaisy site?Sorry about the spelling.
And one more question if the media is controlled,which I believe it is.Then how come they have not stopped the movie makers?
Alright one last question-Could it be and I hate to sound like CR on here but could they be letting this info slpi out to the public as to start a revolution to kill more people?This shit is so confusing.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 10:57 am | #
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MSNBC
Your lieing. You been here a long time.
why act lame?
slow down.
you called the alex jones radio show...........
now the staff is nuts(in your opinion)
what state do you live in?
Sane.which part?
To JpJ ,Hey I was only refering to one person on here.You don't have to be so jumpy.I did not say the whole staff.Sorry
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the reply.
Soon after George W. proclaimed the Iraq War to be won, I flew to Chicago on a business trip. I sat next to a young American soldier, who was very polite, very decent and very scared. What he was most scared of was what to do when he left the army. We didn't talk about his experiences in Iraq, but it was clear that he had experienced things that disturbed him.
Yet still he was most concerned about his future. I think what he most needed was a shoulder to lean on, and maybe to cry on. I tried to be positive and encourage him and I like to think that he appreciated it.
As you write, the individual men and women will react in different ways to their wartime experiences. I hope that as many as possible will come to realize that they have been betrayed and manipulated. I also hope that as many as possible will find the strength to maintain/regain their humanity and join the struggle for truth and justice.
I just read some stuff about the horrific levels of cancer in Iraq. I pray for all of the victims of this carnage and an end to tyranny.
I've started following the US news very closely, because whether for good or evil, the USA is leading the way into the future for all of us on this planet.
In my opinion, NO-ONE should watch TV.
Joe Cortez | 04.24.07 - 10:46 am |
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I agree Joe.
I haven't watched TV in a long time.
I have one of course, I just don't turn it on.
I have even canceled my cable TV connection. Screw COX.
I haven't watched the main stream media news in so long I actually could not tell you the last time I did. I don't do news papers for anything but local news.
And you know what? I feel better about myself and my ability to find the real news on the Web.
Thanks to Alex and the real Journalist that can only get their reports published on the Web.
I have also learned that to get the real news, I have to get my news from other countries.
Americans DO NOT get the real story in Americas main stream media.
Wolf Yeah I am still kicking.Just had to get away from the post as some of the staff here is beyond nuts.I will leave the name out.We pretty much know who I am talking about.I will ignore this being.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 10:38 am
calling the "staff" nuts dont help.
Maybe your nuts.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 10:57 am | #
What the hell are you talking about???
Be direct
Also I have another Question for the staff here.Is this a white supremaisy site?Sorry about the spelling.
And one more question if the media is controlled,which I believe it is.Then how come they have not stopped the movie makers?
Alright one last question-Could it be and I hate to sound like CR on here but could they be letting this info slpi out to the public as to start a revolution to kill more people?This shit is so confusing.
MSNBC
Jessica Lynch exposing lies
WATCH IT
Oh and Foc-commercials
"Ahmadinejad offers to have direct talks with Bush"
HAH!!!!
I'm laughing so hard I'm CRYING!!!
T.V.sucks.
"Children under three 'should not watch TV'"
In my opinion, NO-ONE should watch TV.
It's the world's greatest killer of time, dispenser of mis-information (and 9/11 truthers wonder why it is people believe the hyped up "official" story), and agent of social programming.
In short, TV is what's wrong with the world today. It is the predecessor to George Orwell's "telescreen." It produces tender, idiotic and docile, couch potatoes. TV has desensitized the population, so now no-one knows what's "real" and what's Hollywood anymore.
Wouldn't the world be a better place if people actually got up and did research instead of rely on TV all day?
ak48, you seen this:
This program presents the facts about these amazing discoveries and includes stunning film footage of the remarkable flight maneuvers of these mysterious alien spacecraft secretly recorded during test flights
http://video.google.com/videopla...976918772940&
q=
CNN/CSAPN3
Pat Tillman's brother exposes the lies of the Iraq war to the House of Representatives!!!
WATCH IT
Wolf Yeah I am still kicking.Just had to get away from the post as some of the staff here is beyond nuts.I will leave the name out.We pretty much know who I am talking about.I will ignore this being.
he must be hard as nails considering what he has done so far.
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 10:30 am | #
He does seem to have an impenatrable shield from decades of integrity. When the shills attack, after a few minutes they are usually left dumbfounded as to why they even fought. The Glenn Beck interview was precious. Jones is a great man.
Good thing about the ban on aspartame (http://aspartame.worldwidewarning.net) by Sainsbury's but they are replacing it with Sucralose, also known as Splenda (http://splenda.worldwidewarning.net) which is certainly not a huge improvement at all. Puzzling to say the least. Sucralose "made from sugar" is quite deceptive.
And why has the manufacturer of Sucralose/Splenda registered a lot of domains like splendakills.com and victimsofsplenda.com?
Marcianne,Hi I am sorry it took me so long to get back with you.I put my neighborhood awakening on hold till I get your opinion.I put parts of V for Vendetta trailor on the first part of terrorstorm and loose change.Do you think that is unwise?All opinions welcome.
It's clear that they are fighting an illegal war in Iraq for a corrupt bunch of self-satisfying criminal leaders (or is there anyone who doesn't think that is clear?).
Anthony65 | 04.24.07 - 9:17 am | #
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------------Hi Tony, i saw you post and couldnt reisit saying something about it. They for the most part know they are screwed, but becasue of the finality and domination of Militray control and law, the best they can hope for is to get home in one piece.
They have been lied to and they know it, the majority that is. The career men (lifers)use this as a ladder to climb to higher rank.
We are all human beings, be it military or not, trapped in a situation wehre we do not have a voice, the goverment has walled us off. They have by insidious methods created a regime intent on domination.
The troops, if they do not get zaped, or wounded, crippled, or paralized, or mentaly ill, will definetly have an attitude. Some will let their fear and hatred overwhelm them and go into a place we refered to as kill crazy. Some will never be able to accept the misery and hold onto the old Patriotic chore syndrome to cope with their memories. Unfortunetly there will be suicides among those in the zone and those who return.
Power, has allways fed off poverty, I suspect that many young men joined for this very reason, no hope, poverty and no vision of a future. Too, many are young men who have no idea whats going on, they join on a whim, or a clever recruiter promising the world to them, remember most there have just left behind puberty, they truly dont know what the situation is. They do now. If these Elites, master puppeteers are not imprisoned, for mass murder, high treason, then we are in for more trouble than i care to think about.
re The Amazing Kretzkin
Dont worry too much about Professor Jones, actually he is the one who says "I wanna know"
Besides that he is a big boy and can certainly take care of himself. He is one of the founders of the scholar movement and he has recieved both threats and attempts of bribes for what he has done. Steven Jones may look soft but he must be hard as nails considering what he has done so far.
sara---do the words, malleus maleficarum, have any meaning for you?
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When they let you out of the ward, and use the State computer. Let me know what your point it.
If you think the Pope was making "witches" repent, I would say to the Catholic Church stop molesting childrem, you demonic Priests. Your all sickos.
Plus the hesanic females who post pictures of their children on the internet for bait(I am not saying who, only a SLUT gives her private e-mails publicly to strangers. Its a con.
(*^*)
My Bad guys yesterday I said Rosie was gonna have Rupurt Murdock on her show,I guess I read it wrong she had to introduce him at some other event.It still made her sick.
On another note I sure hope all these Impeachment protest and the Kucinich filings work.I ain't holding my breath though.They seem to be untouchable.
Re The Evidence Is In
In part 8, about 5:30 in, Professor Jones begins to relay his story about being put on leave from BYU, and....
Is that Alex cutting him off, saying "I don't want to know. I don't care. I wanna know what's going on..."
If so, or whoever it was is an egotistical fuckwad! Obviously what Jones was going to say was important to him. About his struggle and his sacrifice. To cut him off, to blow off his heroism in this.... whoever said that to him is a grade A asshole, period. He is not just some fucking puppet to be used for whatever purpose and then tossed aside when done. He is a human being with feelings. And the people in the audience clapping? Assholes!
RE:Steven Jones Answers Questions About His Research In a Reply to 'Screw Loose Change'
Why are all of the debunkers links down?
They say look here but their links are all dead, at least for my computer.
And I do have the highest speed connection money can get me.
I do not want to live in a society in which the machines talk to me. It is already happening and it drives me nuts, i loathe the feeling it gives me. Inanimate metal contraptions greeting me and giving me instructions in a friendly human voice. I don't want machines talking to me. It's hideous and makes me want to go north to a place where the machines are mute and the only ones that talk to me are my nieghbors(not the other way around).
Jake | 04.24.07 - 9:54 am | #
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Dont answer the telephone. Or door. Simple, works for me!
sara---do the words, malleus maleficarum, have any meaning for you?
state inmate 666 | 04.24.07 - 4:01 am | #
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A book.
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The book is divided into three sections, each of which raises specific questions and purports to answer them through opposing arguments. There is little original material in the book; it is mainly a codification of existing beliefs and practices with substantial parts taken from earlier works such as Nicolau Aymerich's Directorium Inquisitorum (1376), or Johannes Nider's Formicarius (1435).
Part I seeks to prove that witchcraft or sorcery existed. It details how the Devil and his followers, witches, perpetrate a variety of evils with the permission of the Almighty God. Rather than explaining this as punishment, as many church authorities of the time did, the authors of this book claim that God permits the acts so that the Devil might not gain unlimited power and destroy the world. Another viewpoint states that god allows evil to occur, because without the potential for evil, there would not be potential for good.
Part of this section explains why women, by their weaker nature and inferior intellect, were supposedly naturally more prone to the lure of Satan than men. The book title itself contains the word maleficarum, the female form of the noun, and the writers (incorrectly) declare that the word femina (woman) is a derivation of fe+minus, faithless.
Part II of the Malleus Maleficarum describes the actual forms of witchcraft. This section details how witches cast spells and how their actions can be prevented or remedied. Strong emphasis is given to the Devils Pact and the existence of witches is presented as fact. Many of the books reports of spells, pacts, sacrifice, and copulation with the Devil were gained from inquisitions performed by Sprenger and Kramer.
Part III details the methods for detecting, trying, and sentencing or destroying witches. Torture in the detection of witches is dealt with as a matter-of-course; if the accused witch did not voluntarily confess their guilt, torture was to be applied as incentive to confess. Judges are instructed to mislead the accused if necessary, promising mercy for confession.
This section also covers how much belief to place in witnesses' testimonies and the need to eliminate malicious accusations, but also states that public rumor is sufficient to bring a person to trial and that too vigorous a defense is evidence that the defender is bewitched. There are rules on how to prevent the authorities becoming bewitched and the reassurance that, as representatives of God, investigators are shielded from all of the witch's powers
I do not want to live in a society in which the machines talk to me. It is already happening and it drives me nuts, i loathe the feeling it gives me. Inanimate metal contraptions greeting me and giving me instructions in a friendly human voice. I don't want machines talking to me. It's hideous and makes me want to go north to a place where the machines are mute and the only ones that talk to me are my nieghbors(not the other way around).
I think it's time to practice with the other...............
Michael D. | 04.24.07 - 9:44 am | #
Yeah!!! I second that!!!
cameras, microphones, and sensors will be beamed to the government in order to "monitor" the robot and "protect" us...
Too lazy to retype the rest of it, though.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.24.07 - 9:44 am | #
Yeah, one of the main ways we get out of the domestic surveilance laws today is by UK controlling our camera's images and us contolling UKs. Eventually it will all move to Dubai and China. Then the fun will really start.
These guys sit in a vegas command and control type room and monitr us from thousands of miles away. And we thuiing it is useful to stop traffic violations, we are such frickin sheep!
Just one of the many signs that Yeltsin was not NWO: look at his funeral, not the "Masonic funeral for a god" shit that takes 7 days of coverage to mind fuck us with.
According to Path. Liars, our fearless leaders, Boss Dick and the Tyrant Bush do fit in the definition. They know they are lying and they are doing it for very specific purposes but believe their purposes are really God's purposes. Nothing worse than a liar and a murderer who thinks he is doing God's will.
I am about ruffling feathers and spreading fire. And don't ever think God doesn't have a sense of humor. I was a sniper and i lost an eye, ironic isn't it?
oneyedvet | 04.24.07 - 4:30 am | #
Was that your scope eye or the other?
If your scope eye, I think it's time to practice with the other...............
The outcome is they could all be centrally controlled and seeing as our armed forces are being systematically destroyed, no one will be around to defend us.
Dubai owns our ports, Chinese manufacturing goes unchecked, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
sane | 04.24.07 - 9:22 am | #
Yeah, haloscan cut off the end of my post, I was saying essentially the same thing.
My response to the last quote in my post was "and so do humans. (make a wrong decision and people get hurt."
Then I said, the knee-jerk reaction will be that the robots cameras, microphones, and sensors will be beamed to the government in order to "monitor" the robot and "protect" us...
Too lazy to retype the rest of it, though.
>>"The outcome could be that when given a choice the robot could make the wrong decision and someone gets hurt. They can go wrong just like a motor car can.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.24.07 - 9:05 am | #
The outcome is they could all be centrally controlled and seeing as our armed forces are being systematically destroyed, no one will be around to defend us.
Dubai owns our ports, Chinese manufacturing goes unchecked, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I was thinking of ancient history, Troy when the big fake horse, was filled with those soldiers and then I think what if Mexico decided to invade the United States, and fill the trucks with mexican soldiers, and they have these cells all over, and one day, we wake up, and Mexico has declared war with the help of Alberto Gonzales, useing State computers, to share with Mexico(I mean he gives the passwords)to mexico, and they invade?
RE: Pathological liars---Really good post, very insightful. But are you saying that Prisonplanet is a lying website or that the comments page is full of liars? Human imagination is the second most powerful force in existence, only truth is more powerful. TV and movies are vicarious experiences that can cause schizophrenia and psycho-pathological behavior. Add to that strong, psycho-active drugs(both legal and illegal) and harmful inorganic metals and chemicals in our air, water and food, it is a wonder that we are not all more crazy than we are.
Pathological Liars
The popular stereotype of a pathological liar-- a chronic liar, deceiver, who lies to get out of things, or into things; who tries to con you into something, or control you; who cheats on you and then denies it, makes up stories about where he was-- all this is wrong. It's malingering, but it isn't pathological lying. He's a tool, but he's not psychiatric.
Pathological lying was originally defined as complex lies which are internally consistent, that may drag on for years and-- and this is the key point-- do not have an obvious purpose or gain. They are not lies told to self-aggrandize, or minimize guilt. They're not trying to con you into or out of anything. They're just making crap up.
The lies are unplanned, spontaneous. Once told, they generally stick (for years)-- but it's fair to say the pathological liar doesn't know what he's going to say until he says it. He is a bullshit artist who makes it up as he goes along, and who then believes his own crap.
The important question here is this: does the pathological liar know he is lying? Or does he believe his stories? Is he lying, or is he delusional?
The answer is: both. Sort of.
Does this sound like PrisonPla | 04.24.07 - 9:25 am | #
Dude thanks for wrining all of this, now we can repost it on other sites to show more about the psychology behind our appointed leaders.
Sweeeeet. Can you give us more ramblings to better communicate the details of the psychosis our Pres and VP currently suffer from, that would be really generous of you.
I am thanking you in advance for your continued service to this great country
The economy is so screwed up, you need to shop at thrift stores and dollar stores, and garage sale and you will find new items.
The homes in Los Angeles are outrages, and the buisnesses rents.
Like a small store with a buisness is like $6,000.00 a month. George Bush has bankrupted the nation. He has been allowed by this congress and Seenate to do this, so they are to blame also.
It is a corrupt government and the Communists look from across the seas and laugh. Maybe Mexico will invade, since they have Alberto Gonzales, in office, who wont quit, since hes an agent for Mexico. Mexico is communist.
E-bay is a joke.
a chronic liar, deceiver, who lies to get out of things, or into things; who tries to con you into something, or control you; who cheats on you and then denies it, makes up stories about where he was
Does this sound like PrisonPla | 04.24.07 - 9:25 am | #
Good point, here is an audio of a pathological liar taken just yesterday and my homepage shows a picture of the same guy, go figure.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/
r...70423.pod.a.mp3
Chris Jones: Hi Chris, You wrote, yesterday I think, asking for feedback about your UFO experience.
While I've never experienced anything like you describe, it just doesn't make sense to me to believe that we're the only ones in the Universe. And if we can make such rapid technological progress, how far advanced could other civilizations be?
And your UFO sounds more like the alien variety, rather than a US government model!
I haven't seen a UFO, but I have witnessed things that I could not explain and most people would never believe. Therefore, I am open to other people's experiences, taking care, of course, to listen to my inner voice.
You write constructive posts and to me you sound like a very convincing witness. Thanks for sharing this with us!
Anthony
Pathological Liars
The popular stereotype of a pathological liar-- a chronic liar, deceiver, who lies to get out of things, or into things; who tries to con you into something, or control you; who cheats on you and then denies it, makes up stories about where he was-- all this is wrong. It's malingering, but it isn't pathological lying. He's a tool, but he's not psychiatric.
Pathological lying was originally defined as complex lies which are internally consistent, that may drag on for years and-- and this is the key point-- do not have an obvious purpose or gain. They are not lies told to self-aggrandize, or minimize guilt. They're not trying to con you into or out of anything. They're just making crap up.
The lies are unplanned, spontaneous. Once told, they generally stick (for years)-- but it's fair to say the pathological liar doesn't know what he's going to say until he says it. He is a bullshit artist who makes it up as he goes along, and who then believes his own crap.
The important question here is this: does the pathological liar know he is lying? Or does he believe his stories? Is he lying, or is he delusional?
The answer is: both. Sort of.
He is not delusional, but he hovers in that half-world of the narcissist (oh, there's that tie-in), where the lies are believed until he gets caught, but then-- and this is the move that only a few can pull off-- he acknowledges that the "facts" are lies, but not the essence, the spirit. "Ok, look, I'm not really in the CIA." But in his mind, he knows that if conditions were right-- if something big went down-- he could be exactly like a CIA agent, and that's close enough. If he saw a suicide bomber, he'd be able to movie- kung fu him, grab the Sig Sauer and squeeze off a few rounds. He also knows which wire to clip. How does he know? Because he's in the CIA.
If aliens actually did come and attack us, he knows he would actually be able to fly a spaceship.
Pathological lying is not "confabulation." In both cases, lies are told spontaneously and freely, without clear intent, purpose, or gain-- except that in confabulation, the reason the person lies is to fill in the deficits in his memory; he can't remember what actually happened. Hence confabulation is associated with dementia ("when I was 18 I went to Paris with my unit and I saw... 8 puppies get eaten by Chamberlain and de Gaulle-- hand to God I saw it"), and especially with alcoholic dementia/hallucinosis ("I don't know what happened to me-- six guys jumped me... yeah... six... Canadian guys, I think they were Satanists, no, wait, Stalinists, yeah, that's right, and they could read my mind...")
My take is that pathological lying is a disorder of identity; the person imagines for himself an separate identity, and then fantasizes experiences and events which may be otherwise ordinary and predictable-- he went to the museum-- but in his mind happen only to "that" person. The lies hold the clues to that identity, but they may not be obvious. For example, maybe the part of the lie that's important isn't that he saw a guy rob the gift shop and get arrested, but that he was at the museum by himself-- the point is that he imagines himself a loner, or an artsy type, etc. Or maybe he's sees himself living in a world where crimes happen frequently. And maybe he thinks he's a superhero.
The pathological liar doesn't place much value in experience; it's all in identification. He doesn't need to be in the military to know exactly what it's like, because he's watched enough war movies (e.g. one) or read Tom Clancy. (Aside: that's the huge appeal of Clancy and Crichton-- enough detail to make you think you know the inner workings of the professions they describe.) It's wrong to dismiss the lies as valueless; like Zelig, these people do have an intuitive grasp of the relevant thought process, emotions, affects, and even consequences of the experiences they describe. They're just made up. So when he gets caught in his lie, he secretly blames the other person for not appreciating that whether it's a lie or not is trivial, irrelevant; it still affected him just the same.
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>>"The outcome could be that when given a choice the robot could make the wrong decision and someone gets hurt. They can go wrong just like a motor car can.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.24.07 - 9:05 am | #
The outcome is they could all be centrally controlled and seeing as our armed forces are being systematically destroyed, no one will be around to defend us.
Dubai owns our ports, Chinese manufacturing goes unchecked, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The truth of the matter is that "Capitalism" can only work if there are people dumb enough to screw for cheap labor, and people dumb enough to pay more than the product is actually worth.
(Did you know that the beans for the coffee sold at Starbucks is bought as low as $0.01 a pound from foreign coffee producing companies? Ever wonder what your $5.00 REALLY pays for when you get that "tall" cup of coffee?)
Nothing wrong with wanting more bang for your buck, but how low are we willing to go to make the most profit for the lowest cost? People need to decide if they want a "free China," "All-American goods," or that Nike shoe more.
Till then, the screwing continues.
Joe Cortez | 04.24.07 - 9:04 am | #
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Now it capitalisum, versus communist and you choose it. Brew your own coffee, cortez, I think you hate your own existence.
Your boss maybe. It works fine, I go to Mcdonalds. Cheap labor?
Why is $7.00 an hour cheap? Cal-Trans workers make big bucks your a COMMUNIST.
Yeltsin as a champion of democracy, nothing could be further from the truth. He should have been arraigned on capital charges with his mates in the tanks, as a traitor. No to vivisection.
Fard El Kalb, The Destroyer | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 4:33 am | #
Yeltsin was truly a couageous leader, the likes of which we desperately need today. If we had a similar leader instead of Poppy Bush at the time, none of this shit happening now would be going on.
oneyedvet: I'm English, living in Germany, and I wondered how you (or others here) guage the feeling in the US military (serving and vets, regulars and reserves)?
It's clear that they are fighting an illegal war in Iraq for a corrupt bunch of self-satisfying criminal leaders (or is there anyone who doesn't think that is clear?).
re: Are we safe from robots that can think for themselves?
Yeah, like they didn't say THAT 15 years ago! We were supposed have domestic robots in the home 10 years ago.
>>"The outcome could be that when given a choice the robot could make the wrong decision and someone gets hurt. They can go wrong just like a motor car can.
I am about ruffling feathers and spreading fire. And don't ever think God doesn't have a sense of humor. I was a sniper and i lost an eye, ironic isn't it?
oneyedvet | 04.24.07 - 4:30 am | #
-Hi. niceto hear ya, what is true patriot, now thats a good one. How about citizens who get off the butts and say something,it is their country, they have just handed it over to the Elite becasue its so much easier.
Remember in the 70's, people did not realy get riled up untill the body count hit about 40,000 or so, recession started, there was nightly news on the action going on, protesters were geting news time,colleges proffesors were courageous enough to tell the alumni the truth, whistle blowers got headlines like Elsberg, they simply could not walk away from the truth and run back into their bubbles. Brother there are so many aspects to this era that are different, Im probbly wrong but the hangover I see is that if one speaks out, demands the truth ,hes is written of as a rabble rouser, or subervisive. I suppose to some degree it is a rerun of the Nam era, but their methods this time are pointed to absolute control. The takedown of America. This gang of bloodsuckers have been planning this for decades. I rambling, sorry, but i wanted ya to know i liked your post.
"China: The Tyranny Maintained By American Multi-National Corporations and Government"
The truth of the matter is that "Capitalism" can only work if there are people dumb enough to screw for cheap labor, and people dumb enough to pay more than the product is actually worth.
(Did you know that the beans for the coffee sold at Starbucks is bought as low as $0.01 a pound from foreign coffee producing companies? Ever wonder what your $5.00 REALLY pays for when you get that "tall" cup of coffee?)
Nothing wrong with wanting more bang for your buck, but how low are we willing to go to make the most profit for the lowest cost? People need to decide if they want a "free China," "All-American goods," or that Nike shoe more.
Till then, the screwing continues.
The link to the coleshill mast cancer story doesn't work, but it's worth reading so here are some links. In one street in Coleshill, England, there are 31 cases of cancer.
I work for a High-tech company and I've heard that we have an above average death rate. Recently, a female colleague died of intestinal cancer, aged 34, just 4 weeks after being diagnosed.
http://www.theinquirer.net/defau...x?
article=39098
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
tol...icle1687357.ece
auto insurance? boy is this site getting trashy!
Gates Presses Russia on Missile Defense Plan
they've already said 'we dont want or need a common missile defense grid with ya'. add this up with to my last post, its simple math how the people in DC are viewed nowadays. my opinion is we have too many domestic enemies to defend against to worry about the foreign ones, and if the domestic enemies are dealt with properly, the foreign ones may eventually have respect for the USA again as a country, not some wannabe 'team america world police'. some might think this view is unpatriotic, gee.. sorry for being aware of the situations as I understand them? eventually many countries will stop differentiating from the good american people and the bad administration, because of the myth that the people can actually effect change and are seen as doing nothing. the people in elected or appointed positions NOT listening to, or representing the will of the people ARE the ones treasonous, and they are also the ones terrorizing us by holding us hostage to the world as they do whatever they please. eventually, the rest of the world will probably do unto us as we do unto the middle east.
"'Impeachment rallies' scheduled across US for Saturday"
The question is, will it work? Or, more importantly, have they ever?
U.S. Knew of Chinas Missile Test, but Kept Silent ..
then they have a hissyfit about them actually shooting down one of their own satellites.. DUH !!
china is messed up fascist dictatorship yes, but looks to me like any ideas these NWO creeps have planned in the usage of china will easily backfire. same china they give awards to and proclaim how wonderfully things work there. same china they give all our production to, tearing apart OUR economy to build up china's economy.. china made a statement in picking off one of their own sattelites.. but the so called brains in DC and the corporations just dont understand it.. thanks for strengthening us, thanks for the technologies, thanks for weakening yourselves in the process, thanks for giving us all youre business and deepwater ports too, but to you NWO illuminazi space racing control freaks... eat my shorts!
-its pure greed and stupidity on the part of the administration and corporate structures that is making it all fall apart, 100% treasonous too.
re oneyedvet
Didnt know him personally thank God, but I know of him. His shadow lives on regardless if he´s in hell or not. Man if we could only turn back time and lent the Cristic Institute a hand back in the 80´s... so much of the shit that´s going on today could have been avoided. Isn´t there a way to reverse the pardons and reopen those cases by "popular demand" or something? I know the statute of limitations expired on most of the crimes but damn, treason cant just be ignored...
Bush fatigue? We have Bush fatigue? No I'd call it lying, evil, corrupt, delusional, shit for brains, fuckwit in the whitehouse fatigue
P.S---My "signature" to my posts has a double meaning: It means both the foregoing, AND "enough of the false peace, the claims that governments like the U.S. are seeking peace, and ONLY True Peace, real peace, ending the mass-murder, and Divine Peace. [Obviously, I'm not naive, contrary to some peoples' false opinion(s) of me here, and I know the Satanic people who run the world aren't going to let that happen on a secular, temporal, political level, so I realize it is ONLY going to be actually brought about by the ending and remaking of the world by Divine Power, God.
ONLY True Peace,
ak48---did you know Ted Shackley? A wild and crazy guy if ever there was one and plugged into Sandoz's finest. If it wasn't for illegal drugs, the folks at the farm would never get anything done. Good old Ted, i bet he is roasting in hell right now.
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(Cont'd): Btw, True Peace, "the Prince of Peace", is Jesus the Christ. I shouldn't think I'd have to spell that out, as most you at least claim to be "Christians"; but obviously I did need to spell it out, because "Ak48" clearly didn't know it at least.
ONLY True Peace,
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Obviously, to expose the NWO is more important than ANYTHING, and my "ego" isn't important AT ALL. Now, of course, because your whole goal is to paint me as something I'm not, which many people here will eat up, you'll contradict that; which is fine, I don't really care. Any and all people with true discernment will see that you're the one who is talking through his rear end.
I've more than glanced at a good many of your posts; and, like I said, you put on a good show; but you also put on a very bad show because you're one of the main people who has attacked me and others without provocation, before I or they even started calling you on your shit. If you were really so "right-on", you wouldn't have made unprovoked attacks of me and other people here; therefore, you already ruined your "credibility", at least with me.
ONLY True Peace,
Boris Yeltsin was trash, an alcoholic thug whose total lack of morals made him a perfect choice to be the figurehead of the push that would defeat parliamentary rule in the former Soviet Union.
The Russian constitutional crisis of 1993 began in earnest on September 21, when Russian President Boris Yeltsin dissolved the country's legislature (Congress of People's Deputies and its Supreme Soviet), which opposed his moves to consolidate power and push forward with unpopular neoliberal reforms. Yeltsin's decree of September 21 contravened the then-functioning constitution; on October 15, after the end of the crisis, he ordered a referendum on a new constitution.
The Congress rejected the decree and voted to remove Yeltsin from presidency through impeachment. His estranged Vice President, Alexander Rutskoy, was sworn in accordance with the existing constitution as Acting President. On September 28, public protests against Yeltsin's government began in earnest on the streets of Moscow where the first blood was shed. The army remained under Yeltsin's control, which determined the outcome of the crisis. The legislators found themselves barricaded inside the White House of Russia parliament building. For the next week, anti-Yeltsin protests grew, until a mass uprising erupted in the city on October 2. Russia was on the brink of civil war. At this point the security and military elites threw their support behind Yeltsin, besieged the parliament building, and through the use of tank artillery nearly destroyed the building and cleaned it of the elected legislature.
Crushing the "second October Revolution," which, as mentioned, saw the deadliest street fighting in Moscow since 1917, cost hundreds of lives. Police said, on October 8, that 187 had died in the conflict and 437 had been wounded. Unofficial sources named much higher numbers, up to 1500 dead, mostly inside the White House. In any event, nearly all victims were killed by troops loyal to Yeltsin. Russian Army and Interior Ministry lost 12 soldiers, at least 9 of which were accidentally killed by their own men. It had been a close call; Yeltsin owed his victory to the military, the former KGB, and the Ministry of Interior, (themselves like their counterparts in the Pentagon and at the CIA, tools of the Zionist Ashkenazi, hereinafter Zionazis MT), not to support from the regions or a popular base of support. Wikipedia
Hasbeen politicians, Tony Major former PM of Great Britain for instance, are coming out of the woodwork describing Yeltsin as a champion of democracy, nothing could be further from the truth. He should have been arraigned on capital charges with his mates in the tanks, as a traitor. No to vivisection.
True Patriotism....? what would that be, exactly? To have killed for your government; i have, does that make me a true patriot? to have been wounded for your government?; i have, does that make me a true patriot? Maybe the only true patriots are in Arlington and Punch Bowl. If I wave my little redwhiteblue flag made in China, does that make me a patriot? Is a person worthy of being called a patriot who has never sacrificed for his country? Is my country the government? Is my government just the people in power at any given time? Did i swear allegiance to men or to the US Constitution? The writer Oscar Wilde said that patriotism was the last refuge for scoundrels. Mr. Wilde never set foot in a battle zone. And now I read that my government, the government of the United States of America, is building box cars with shackles and dentention camps for dissenters. THAT is NOT what i fought for. THAT is NOT a country worth sacrificing for. You others who talk so glibly about patriotism, what are you prepared to sacrifice for your country? Property? Liberty? Life? What is it you are loyal to? I imagine the other vets like chrisjones, terrythevet, iowamilitia know what i am getting at. I also imagine that others don't understand what i am about at all. I am about ruffling feathers and spreading fire. And don't ever think God doesn't have a sense of humor. I was a sniper and i lost an eye, ironic isn't it?
re Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf)
You end all your posts with "ONLY true peace" but who determines what true peace is? You or Theodore Shackley? John Kerry or George Schultz? You talk a lot but most is just ventilation, there is hardly ever any news, facts or points of interest in anything you post. In all honesty most of your posts are in defense of something you have decided is true but probably wouldn´t even recognize if you came face to face with. I hope you realize that in the same way that you only glance at my posts and ignore their content after determining that im a fraud, people read your posts in the same way. An open forum is mainly for people to speak and rarely for people to listen. You would be more effective if you simply posted a link to actual information or place to take action. I try to do this instead of rant on and on about my own or others personality or lack there of. I think you either missed those posts or possibly you decided that Iran Contras and the disciples of the paperclip generation are unworthy of investigation for modern truthers? What is important in your research? To expose the NWO or just to expose your own ego?
CORRECTION (I have a tendency to habitually leave words out): "....But first, I did NOT say everyone here was a shill...."
ONLY True Peace,
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.24.07 - 3:44 am | #
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LOL! There you go talking about yourself, not me, again. LOL!
Why are you getting so defensive and "striking-at" me so much, rhetorically speaking? Could it be because I "outed" you so completely and correctly, hitting the nails right on the head? Gee, let's see.... YEP!! You're really just embarassing yourself more and more, so you ought to just let it go before you embarass yourself even more. Remember, "(I'm) not worth it!"
ONLY True Peace,
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 3:31 am | #
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You know, you aren't even worth responding to; but, for the "sake" of others here who probably fall for your question and would like to hear the answer, I will answer it:
But first, I did say everyone here was a shill, nor did I even say anyone here DEFINITELY is, except people like "Sara/Whoever-She-Calls-Herself" and "Commenter", etc. What I said people like yourself definitely are is trolls. As you know, there are trolls who are not working for the Zionists or the government, at least directly, so they aren't necessarilly shills; at least the way I see it. I'm sure you'll correct me if you think I'm wrong.
Now, to your question, Tammy, Marci, Jake, Gabe, Andrew, "Sane", Scott, Riley, etc., aren't trolls, or shills (please forgive me if there's anyone I left out); although I may have alluded that a couple of them were perhaps sounding like they could or might be. Believe it or not (and have a field day with this if you must), I am a True Patriot; so, like all truly, fully sensible such patriots, I DON'T TRUST ANYONE until they prove themselves to be trustworthy; and, if they say ANYTHING that makes them appear to be a government agent, I usually don't say anything about it, giving them the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves to not be trustworthy, I file it away, and I keep an "eye" on them for any further signs of where they really stand.
So, "forgive me" if I don't trust people who have proven themselves to be trolling. Maybe some of the so-called trustworthy regulars here, like Riley I think it was, have supposedly determined that you aren't a troll, and that you're supposedly to be trusted, but your "record" makes that highly suspect and unbelievable. If I'm wrong, I am truly sorry; but I don't think I am. I stick with gut, as I'm learning to do more and more of.
This comments board has been overrun with shills and trolls, so it makes it really difficult to trust ANYONE. Maybe there are a couple or few people here who know eachother and know without any doubt that they can truly trust eachother, but I find that hard to believe too, or that any of them is to be truly trusted either, particularly after they have played their "control freak" games.
If ANY of you trust anyone here, including me (not that you can't, but I don't blame you for not trusting anyone if you don't), I believe you are out of your frigging minds! With what many of you know, how can you?! This country and world are going more and more insane and "to hell in a handbasket"; or, in my words, insane "on an express train to hell"; and, therefore, we can trust anyone even less, and less and less. Maybe most of you don't see it as, or getting, that bad; but it most-definitely IS!! I truly wish I was wrong and that I could be more positive for all of you.
ONLY True Peace,
sara---do the words, malleus maleficarum, have any meaning for you?
It's just extremely unfortunate that most comments "boards" like this one get taken over by "regulars" like that, because it ruins the entire board on so many "patriot" boards that it's disgusting. Honestly, I truly don't know why I even bother to try and give boards like this one a chance. I know it's probably going to be the same old b.s., a gaggle of control-mongers who consciously or unconsciously feel they have to "gate-keep" and control and limit free speech, free expression, and free expression of religion.
You truly understanding and agreeing with anything I'm saying, Riley?
ONLY True Peace,
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 3:18 am | #
It is "always the same" for you, because you lack the skills required to properly interact with people. Everywhere you go, you will get the same reaction. But, of course, it is everyone else in worlds' fault but your own.
I don't know why I am telling you this. Some part of me keeps thinking there must be a way to get through to you and that you have something worthwhile to contribute, but I have all but given up hope.
You fucking cry-baby. When you "get completely fed up with and leave," don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, you fucking traitorous (and you should know what that was for) desparate, cry-baby.
re Riley
Religious right wants to remove them but don´t have the power. Those guidestones were put up in the same state that saw the creation of the federal reserve. But Georgia holds so many nice historical things:
http://www.cviog.uga.edu/
Project...FDRarticle2.htm
http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.o...ersies&id=h-
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re Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf)
Can you name a single person on this board who is not either a phony or a shill? Except for yourself of course.
You didn't start out a troll as far as I can tell Wolf. But when your desire for defending your character and name became SO evident to the expense of any effort made by (any one) to reach out and attempt to start over with you, it is merely more of the same! Come here to slander Alex Jones, and everyone who appears to support his views. Then why come here at all?? It seems to escalate into these bickering escapades that nearly drown out every other poster.
I wish you would just start from scratch Wolf. And merely post what is important to you and what you might like us to know about. That is all.
Riley
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You know this post of your's is very interesting and actually has a couple things worth responding to:
Except you believe Scott is sincere, or so you make it appear anyway. He's not sincere. Except perhaps "sincerely wrong".
I did NOT come here to slander Alex Jones! I used to say 98% of what he says is right-on; but, with his deteriorating into more and more hate- and violence mongering, he's dropped in my estimation to about 90% and dropping even further. Do you even know what slander is? Slander is making false accusations about people. EVERYTHING I've said about Alex has been exactly correct, so it ISN'T slander (I'll bet if I had anything, though, he'd sue me anyway). Like I've said or alluded to before, you worshippers of Jones, even though he's an all too human, finite and fault-ridden person, can't handle virtually ANY criticism of him, even if if it's constructive. Well, stop putting him on a pedastal! Contrary to the way you worshippers of him act, he isn't a god, and he isn't God, and he's leading you all to suicide.
Anyway, I've hardly said anything critical of Alex Jones. My criticisms of him have been about 5% of my total comments. So please quit exaggerating as usual.
And you know darn well that I'm not the one, or even one of the ones, who's drowning out other "posters". I "followed your suggestion", so to speak, before you even made it, and I DID post "what is important to (me) and what (I thought you guys might) like... to know about" (I did it today in particular, as a matter of fact), and tried over and over again to "start over"; but then, as Scott WAS right about, I started getting attacked from all sides yet again when I hadn't done anything wrong.
You also know, therefore, that there ARE several people here who will "tear me a new asshole" simply for posting Kurt Nimmo links or something like that; or having a fair amicable religious discussion with a couple of the regulars here (Gabe and Jake, etc.). They'll always find some "excuse" to screech about what a worthless piece of shit I supposedly am, simply or mostly because they're anti-Christian and can't stand believers in Christianity even being here, let alone making any comments about it. (The selective freedom of speech, and denial of equal rights to freedom of religion, thing again.)
So, in summary, you and several other people here never give me a chance to "start over"; and, regardless if I have the so-called "nerve" to even dare to even breathe the slightest little bit about Christianity, or to stand up to the true libelers and slanderers, you and those people will jump down my throat yet again, and again, and again....
In fact, there are those here who are carrying out a concerted effort to drive me to get so fed up with all of this "open-season on Wolf" crap, that I'll leave; so you who are guilty of it push and push and push and push, figuring it's worked so well before to drive people away, if will (supposedly) work with me. Well, I may leave because far too much, if not most, of the posts here aren't even worth reading, but not because ANYONE succeeded in driving me away.
Most of these "boards" are "taken over" by a clique of control freaks, regulars who won't tolerate any new people whose intelligence and/or religiousnes makes them feel threatened (I guess consciously or unconsciously they think they'll take their control of the board away from them---well, I have absolutely NO interest in trying to control ANYTHING here, so if they weren't so insecure and didn't feel so threatened by religious people, and/or people who make the slightest criticism(s) of Alex, they wouldn't have ANYTHING to feel threatened about; but, very sadly for them, they do). They want only spoken on the board what they want said or to hear; or, no offense meant to anyone like Tammy, they only want "innocuous" people who don't make them feel threatened. Talk about who needs to grow up!
It's just extremely unfortunate that most comments "boards" like this one get taken over by "regulars" like that, because it ruins the entire board on so many "patriot" boards that it's disgusting. Honestly, I truly don't know why I even bother to try and give boards like this one a chance. I know it's probably going to be the same old b.s., a gaggle of control-mongers who consciously or unconsciously feel they have to "gate-keep" and control and limit free speech, free expression, and free expression of religion.
You truly understanding and agreeing with anything I'm saying, Riley?
ONLY True Peace,
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 2:29 am | #
Wolfie, I am done with you. Nobody wants to watch us fight. I have said what I needed to say to you, and this is the last. You 'win.' Now, go make some more enemies.
Bush is stupid, the government is incompetent.
Nah, he is the perfect front man, for the perfect crime......"what me, I dunno??
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.24.07 - 2:04 am | #
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ROTFLOL! I just know, and see right through, phony people like you, that's all; and I know when people claiming to be my friends aren't. I was willing to "make peace" with you, even though I knew you were still manipulating, and that you would start it up again, and I didn't even bite at first, until you started in with the condescending, patronizing crap again, which you really couldn't ever stop. Even when you came back to "clarify", it was more of that crud.
Now you just proved how evil you are by just "going off" the way you have. Remember, in the vast majority of that b.s. you just spewed like a demon, you're simply describing yourself to a capital 'T', not me.
ONLY True Peace,
(8:21 A.M.) Inside Flight 11, flight attendant Betty Ong calls Vanessa Minter at American Airlines reservations. Nydia Gonzales also listens in from 8:27. She talks for 25 minutes, until the plane crashes. The FBI says that only the first four minutes were recorded, but won't release the tape. Ong is apparently in the middle of the plane, but other flight attendants relay information about what is happening in the front. She says the hijackers had sprayed something in the first-class cabin to keep people out of the front of the plane. It burns her eyes and she is having trouble breathing. ["25 minute phone call until crash,"
8:52 A.M.ĘTwo F-15's take off from Otis ANG Base, six minutes after being ordered to go after Flight 11, which has already crashed. [8:52, NORAD, 9/18/01, 8:52, CNN, 9/17/01, 8:53, Washington Post, 9/12/01, 8:52, Washington Post, 9/15/01] This is 38 minutes after flight controllers lost contact with the plane.
Nuff said
I've never taken issue with your posts. Just tired of all the hostility. That's it man...
Riley
And I will just about guarantee you that after a while - if you could just do that - most will drop the hostility and things will smooth over. Besides, wouldn't it be nice to not have to defend yourself every other post??
Riley
You didn't start out a troll as far as I can tell Wolf. But when your desire for defending your character and name became SO evident to the expense of any effort made by (any one) to reach out and attempt to start over with you, it is merely more of the same! Come here to slander Alex Jones, and everyone who appears to support his views. Then why come here at all?? It seems to escalate into these bickering escapades that nearly drown out every other poster.
I wish you would just start from scratch Wolf. And merely post what is important to you and what you might like us to know about. That is all.
Riley
NO, NO , NO.......WE HOPE YOU DIE A PAINFUL DEATH, CANCER OF THE ASSHOLE AND ALL YOUR CHILDREN YOU FUCKHEAD EVIL POS!!
WAP! WAP! WAP!
Riley : )
Anonymous | 04.24.07 - 1:37 am | #
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I know your game too, Riley. You've been doin' it with me for awhile. You make it look like I do the attacking, when all I do is the defending. I never start this shite, and I ignore, as I've said, most of the true trolls most of the time, but when some people attack, I defend. And then people like you seek to make it look like I supposedly instigated it, and certain people eat those suggestions up, finding new impetus to attack me even further.
Save your suggestions for someone who's interested. (Of course, that's right, there are several people here who are interested in your veiled further put-downs of me! All of you love "open-season on Wolf".)
ONLY True Peace,
You see, Anonymous. This crap posted below is some sort of script leaking thru Haloscan. I didn't even visit this page near the time that it was posted. Yet when I look down at the bottom of my page, this is what is already filled into comments areas:
Name: nlp encyclopedia
Email:udhhind@ablyl.com
URL:http://wetpussyguide.info/8/nlp-
encyclopedia.html
It self propagates by putting itself into comments sections and if people press Publish, it prints, and then leaks again..... I think anyways.
Question.
How come somebody hasn't gone and kicked those Georgia Guidestones over yet?? Might need a pretty big boot!
Riley
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 12:37 am | #
Alright. Then just go fuck yourself. Does that work better for you? You, insecure, piece of shit.
You don't want to "get along," you don't want any friends, you want to call everyone that disagrees with you a shill. Ok you can just go fuck yourself. I have been here a very long time and have earned the respect of the people here, you have just come along and claim I am an evil shill? Just who the fuck are you? I can tell you, you are NOT going to make any friends here, period.
You have lost every last ounce of respect you have had from me, and I can no longer care if your feelings are hurt. You worthless piece of insecure and bitter trash.
Apparently you are NOT an intelligent 51 year old man. You are ignorant and immature. A real man can accept criticism without flying off the fucking handle every time. A real man does not get his ego crushed when someone questions them.
Numerous people have tried to reach out to you, and you bite their fucking hand every time. Your feelings are not mine or any other persons' responsibility. There is no place for you in a public forum because your insecurity issues are apparently so bad that you cannot function in society.
If you were mature enough, you would have seen that I was defending you. I will not again. You have lost what was once a friend.
Sincerely, go fuck yourself.
Problem arises when folks come in here "specifically" to slander and attack. Then it becomes obvious they have nothing of merit to say, and are consequently re-buffed and WAPPED!!
Riley : )
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/
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Count the lies in todays's ress conference: 40, 50, 100?
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Wolf,
Suggestion. Just post what you want and stop taking everything so personal. If you don't attack, they're not as likely to attack back and vise versa. I find this seems to work for me "most" of the time. People are really sensitive to having their integrity or character assassinated. Although, I must admit, many who come in here are pretty good at doing it themselves!
Riley : )
Hi, Tammy!
We've missed you around here! What's been going on? Did your hubby want you to take a break from being on here because of his feelings that you're supposedly obsessing too much about "this stuff"? You sound okay now, so I guess you're alright. Good to "see" you back on here! I was worried about you.
God bless!
ONLY True Peace,
Russian General says that international terrorism does not exist.
http://www.voltairenet.org/
artic...icle133909.html
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:53 pm | #
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I recognize what game evil people like are playing: When I post "too much" meaningful stuff that makes me look too good, you control freaks on here, like you and Scott, bring discussion of me back to what a "loon" or some such thing I supposedly am, to "push my buttons", and "bait me" to argue with you to further try to make me look like more of a "loon", etc. Great mature stuff such people like you are playing at! It really makes you look "intelligent" at other peoples' expense! You're supposedly the good guys, and I'm supposedly the cretin! What foolish tools!
ONLY True Peace,
Democrats to push March 31 Iraq war withdrawal
Richard Cowan
Reuters
Monday April 23, 2007
FRIGGIN COMPLICIT WUSSBAGS !! "el busho" tells them he's gonna veto anything with a timetable attached to withdraw our people like he's god himself and they allow 11 months, cant see its time to VETO bush and cheney BOTH ?!
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 4:47 pm | #
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You know, Scott, I'm getting really tired of your patronizing and condescending attitude towards me. Who do you think you're talking to! I am a very intelligent 51 year old man, not some kid that you can get away with talking to like you are.
I've been watching that person, "Ak48", for quite a while. I've watched their tactics. I don't just assume anyone is a troll and/or a shill, especially like so many people have assumed I supposedly am.
You're not "okay" with me like you claim, and you're going to keep playing your mindgames. I'm not interested in your opinions, so please keep them to yourself. You don't like when I stand up to people, than you just ignore me. I'm done with your B.S.
ONLY True Peace,
Excellent video by 9/11 Truth in Calgary.
http://digg.com/politics/
ABSOLUT...ES_USED_IN_9_11
Riley:
Re: Gabe. Not a clue. Thought he came back with new name?
Got you Marcianne,
Got to go get some groceries. Where's Gabe by the way?
Coffee's ON!
Riley
http://video.google.com/videopla...on%3Along&
hl=en
wrecking ball
Here are the #1 suspects
Riley: I hear you. If you ever want to talk off board,
marcianne_98@sbcglobal.net
Goes for you too impeachy.
Peace,
http://digg.com/world_news/
Retir...lled_Demolition
The Mayan Calendar Comes North 01 - Ian Xel Lungold
http://video.google.com/videopla...n+lungold&
hl=en
The Mayan Calendar Comes North 02 - Ian Xel Lungold
http://video.google.com/videopla...n+lungold&
hl=en
I'll shut-up now and let people post the world changing info that really matters I suppose since this isn't a personal chat-room. But we do have to lighten things up once and awhile and remember we are people and not just databanks for information retrieval and dissemination.
Riley
Yah Marcianne,
Gets old real fast. But we have a nice lull right now. Just enjoying it.
Riley
I think those big fat orange and yellow plastic bats (about 6-8 inches wide and 2 1/2 ft long or so that I remember as a kid) would make good troll thumpers. Don't really hurt, but make a nice WAPP! sound!
Riley ; )
Hey Riley, tired of the nonsense here?
I was just putting out the possibility that if my uncle is right that a plane from that unknown base could have shot it down like some say it was.
I don't know and I don't know numbers either.
Just an idea I had.
Bats anyone??LOL.
Funny sense of humor. Sane talks a lot about bats and beaning people over the head with them. Perhaps that was your inference???
Riley : )
Is it safe to come on?lol - Impeachy
So far so good. Not guaranteed to last though..
Riley : )
Crazzy Idea.
I flew flight 93 months before 911. About 10 months or so. I flew over my home town in NW PA. I recognized it from the air. I saw all the lakes in the right places. there was a few lakes to be seen and the hills that I grew up with.
Anyhow I just got back home from a visit to my uncle there today. I was just thinking of 911 and I recalled my uncle said there is a hidden air base near by him. He said he saw the planes out on the field when they were not suppose to be. He did not tell me the timing he saw them. I was telling him about 911 and showed him the cut beams on the net on my laptop. As well as the DU babies. My aunt and uncle saw them on the net as well from me. That is how I wake people up.
Anyhow as I was saying if there is a base in NW PA and flight 93 goes nearby there maybe there is something to it being shot down.
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was it the same plane tail numbers, a plane has number on the tail,and it says who ownes it. Are you saying gamma rays are near you, they might be harmful. Dont grow gardens next to them,
Really
(*^*)
Re:nasty your time is up. Bats anyone..lol
Can't and won't go into that Sara. Thanks for asking. Met on a job.
Riley
impeachy: I want to know how your activsm went the other night.
I am quite certain of this now, because I recently became acquainted with someone who is sharing his research (though somewhat sloppy) with me. He has been a transient running from this technology that literally follows him with EMP pulses and bio-feedback loops that are magnetic in nature. This is all new to me. But my eyes have been opened. The pictures he has are very alarming. It has something to do with the chemtrails, SDI (Star Wars Defense Initiative), HAARP, sychotrometers (spelling?), the "Z-machine" at Sandia National Laboratory, mirrors on satellites, range-finder lasers that gather target information, psychocivilized society (entire regions electrically stimulated without their knowledge), etc. etc...
The journey begins...
Riley
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a transient you meet, was it hitchhicking across the lilly covered medows?
Pray tell who the lap-top guy is, doed he plug in, at hotels?
wondering.
Hi Iowamilitiaman! Yeah Rupurt is garbage.I just wanted to see Rosie's reaction.I will be back later.
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Okay. I suspect now Rosies Job is in Danger.
If that Guy has anything to do with it.
She' s probably done on news TV.
Timm all, thanks for the Lars/Alex interview. We need to elect leaders who stand up to the bullshit.
Hi Iowamilitiaman! Yeah Rupurt is garbage.I just wanted to see Rosie's reaction.I will be back later.
I'd say it's too late for you to salvage your own presumed credibility.
Rothschild-Mayers not jews. Wow.
Commenter | 04.23.07 - 8:30 pm | #
You really wanna play this game again????
Forbs top Billionaires (somehow I do not see 98% jewish, maybe I am blind. Albright has some jewish in her??? maybe wolfowitz gave it to her ):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...ionaires_(2006)
Bill Gates
Warren Buffett
Carlos Slim Helú
Ingvar Kamprad
Lakshmi Mittal
Mittal Steel Company
Paul Allen
Bernard Arnault
Prince Al-Waleed
David Thomson
Li Ka Shing
Roman Abramovich
Sibneft; Rusal; Chelsea F.C.
Michael Dell
Karl Albrecht
Sheldon Adelson
Larry Ellison
Liliane Bettencourt
Christy Walton
Jim Walton
S. Robson Walton
Alice Walton
Helen Walton
Theo Albrecht
Amancio Ortega
Steven Ballmer
Azim Premji
Sergey Brin
Larry Page
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Crazzy Idea.
I flew flight 93 months before 911. About 10 months or so. I flew over my home town in NW PA. I recognized it from the air. I saw all the lakes in the right places. there was a few lakes to be seen and the hills that I grew up with.
Anyhow I just got back home from a visit to my uncle there today. I was just thinking of 911 and I recalled my uncle said there is a hidden air base near by him. He said he saw the planes out on the field when they were not suppose to be. He did not tell me the timing he saw them. I was telling him about 911 and showed him the cut beams on the net on my laptop. As well as the DU babies. My aunt and uncle saw them on the net as well from me. That is how I wake people up.
Anyhow as I was saying if there is a base in NW PA and flight 93 goes nearby there maybe there is something to it being shot down.
He spoke shortly after Bush gave Gonzales a strong vote of confidence and a few hours before the attorney general himself vowed to remain in his post despite bipartisan criticism of his leadership. At a contentious Senate Judiciary Committee hearing last week, Gonzales claimed dozens of times that he couldn't recall key details about the firings or about a meeting that records show he attended.
As the man who oversaw a state, Huckabee said there comes a point, as a chief executive, when "you need to start asking is this becoming a large distraction that's keeping us from doing the important things that we need to be getting done."
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Alberto Gonzales does not remember his meeting, and hes head of the Attorneys office?..Alberto is on drugs, maybe Meth. What a dork.
I was on Rosies wweb site apperently she has to have Rupurt Murdock on.She was ill from it.I dont know if I missed it or not-anyone else know?
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Rupurt Murdock ? Now there's a piece of garbage for ya! : O )
Ron Paul comes in 2nd in a poll he wasn't even listed on.
http://digg.com/ 2008_us_election...en_being_listed
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FUCK YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it safe to come on?lol
I was on Rosies wweb site apperently she has to have Rupurt Murdock on.She was ill from it.I dont know if I missed it or not-anyone else know?
Amazingly the trolling has all but evaporated for the time being. Everyone with anything of merit to post, get to it before it gets lost in the personal slander that inevitably is aroused by suspicion of trolls.
Riley
Ron Paul comes in 2nd in a poll he wasn't even listed on.
http://digg.com/
2008_us_election...en_being_listed
Silver,
more readily exchangeable in small amounts unlike 1 oz. gold. I have some. I was just making a point though. Thanks Iowa.
Riley
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Yes I know. But what good is any of it if everything lyes in ruin? You cannot eat it.
Silver,
more readily exchangeable in small amounts unlike 1 oz. gold. I have some. I was just making a point though. Thanks Iowa.
Riley
http://digg.com/politics/
Preside...harter_Internet
Waxman: 'Systematic' security failures in Bush White House
Michael Roston
Published: Monday April 23, 2007
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The head of the House Committee on Oversight and Governance Reform warned today of a "systematic failure" in basic security procedures as well as the safeguarding of classified information in the White House of President George W. Bush.
"Multiple current and former White House security personnel have informed my staff that White House practices have been dangerously inadequate with respect to investigating security violations, taking corrective action following breaches, and physically securing classified information," Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) wrote to former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card today.
Waxman sought Card's cooperation in his probe of a "systematic breakdown" in White House security procedures.
According to Waxman, the security personnel "described a systemic breakdown in security procedures at the White House," and he warned that they suggested "that the security lapses that characterized the White House response to the leak of [former covert CIA Agent Valerie Plame] Wilson's identity were not an isolated occurrence, but part of a pattern of disregard for the basic requirements for protecting our national security secrets."
The Oversight Committee chairman listed consistent allegations presented to his committee. The White House, he reported in the letter, ignored security breaches, blocked West Wing security inspections, and condoned mismanagement of the White House Security Office.
Waxman's letter noted criticism of James Knodell, the Director of the White House Security Office, and Ken Greeson, the Deputy Director, for their inexperience and poor management.
"Security procedures prohibit bringing electronic communication devices into a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF)," Waxman wrote.
But in fact, subjects interviewed by his committee reported that "Mr. Knodell and Mr. Greeson habitually violate this prohibition by bringing Blackberry devices and cell phones into the SCIF...and allowed others, such as visiting White House personnel, to do the same. They said that this practice continued even after security officers repeatedly informed Mr. Knodell and Mr. Greeson that the practice violates security rules and sets a poor example."
In another case, Waxman's letter did not name anyone, but referred to an alarming breach committed by Bush White House staff.
"A White House official left [Sensitive Compartmented Information] material behind in a hotel room during a foreign trip with the President. Although the CIA recovered the SCI material and reported the incident, the White House Security Office did not investigate, seek remedial action, or discipline the responsible official," he wrote.
Great Ron Paul campaign videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h?
v=HiQjx3dU72Q
Interested how fast Alien space-craft can move?????
Answer, 835'000 MPH. and thats first gear.
The space shuttle travels 18'000 MPH.
This guys wicked, check his video, and you see a Alien Ship comming out of Hyper Space. The ship is 3 Miles in diameter. Fuck when they shut down the grid, we've got free energy Universally.
Evidence: The Case For NASA UFO's - Part 2
http://video.google.com/
videopla...267568796529301
I mean look at the days of ole? Common people dealt mostly in Silver in commerce. Gold was for the very well to do.
Riley
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Silver Riley! SILVER! Silver has been under priced for some time. You get more for the Buck as well. Gols will become such a locked up asset. That's
What the Gold bugs aren't telling ya!
The DOW goes up, but the dollar falls . Don't these investers understand they are buying at a Loss?
No doubt. Buy gold instead. Unless they've figured out a way to alchemically reproduce gold (and I wouldn't put it past 'em).
When the grid goes down. Gold may not do us much good. Food, Water, Weapons (spiritual and physical), Knowledge of First Aid.
Riley
You know what doesn't make sense to me at all?
The DOW goes up, but the dollar falls . Don't these investers understand they are buying at a Loss?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 10:08 pm | #
Much worse, the market is being pumped to artificially raise prices, when the pumping stops there will be cheap labor everywhere:
Commentary Last Updated: Mar 5th, 2007 - 01:44:48
Juicing the stock market; the secret maneuverings of the Plunge Protection Team
By Mike Whitney
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Mar 5, 2007, 01:33 Email this article
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The Working Group on Financial Markets, also know as the Plunge Protection Team, was created by Ronald Reagan to prevent a repeat of the Wall Street meltdown of October 1987. Its members include the secretary of the Treasury, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, the chairman of the SEC and the chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.
Recently, the team has been on high alert given the increased volatility of the markets and what Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson calls the systemic risk posed by hedge funds and derivatives.
Last Tuesdays 416-point drop in the stock market has sent tremors through global systems. An 8 percent freefall on the Chinese stock exchange triggered a massive equities sell-off which continued sporadically throughout the week. The sudden shift in sentiment, from bull to bear, has drawn more attention to deeply rooted systemic problems in the US economy. US manufacturing is already in recession, the dollar continues to weaken, consumer spending is flat, and the sub-prime market in real estate has begun to nosedive. These have all contributed to the markets erratic behavior and created the likelihood that the Plunge Protection Team may be stealthily intervening behind the scenes.
According to John Crudele of the New York Post, the Plunge Protection Teams (PPT) modus operandi was revealed by a former member of the Federal Reserve Board, Robert Heller. Heller said that disasters could be mitigated by buying market averages in the futures market, thus stabilizing the market as a whole. This appears to be the strategy that has been used.
Former-Clinton advisor, George Stephanopoulos, verified the existence of The Plunge Protection Team (as well as its methods) in an appearance on Good Morning America on Sept 17, 2000. Stephanopoulos said, Well, what I wanted to talk about for a few minutes is the various efforts that are going on in public and behind the scenes by the Fed and other government officials to guard against a free-fall in the markets. . . . perhaps the most important the Fed in 1989 created what is called the Plunge Protection Team, which is the Federal Reserve, big major banks, representatives of the New York Stock Exchange and the other exchanges and they have been meeting informally so far, and they have a kind of an informal agreement among major banks to come in and start to buy stock if there appears to be a problem. They have in the past acted more formally . . . I dont know if you remember but in 1998, there was a crisis called the Long term Capital Crisis. It was a major currency trader and there was a global currency crisis. And they, with the guidance of the Fed, all of the banks got together when it started to collapse and propped up the currency markets. And, they have plans in place to consider that if the markets start to fall.
Stephanopoulos comments have never been officially denied. In fact, as Ambrose Evans-Pritchard of the U.K. Telegraph notes, Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson has called for the PPT to meet with greater frequency and set up a command centre at the US Treasury that will track global markets and serve as an operations base in the next crisis. The top brass will meet every six weeks, combining the heads of Treasury, Federal Reserve, Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), and key exchanges.
This suggests that the PPT may have been deeply involved in last Wednesdays miraculous stock market rebound from Tuesdays losses. There was no apparent reason for the market to suddenly go positive following a ruinous day that shook investor confidence around the world. The editors of the New York Times summarized the feelings of many market-watchers who were baffled by this odd recovery: The torrent of bad news on housing is only worsening, with a report yesterday that new home sales for January had their steepest slide in 13 years . . . Manufacturing has already slipped into a recession, with activity contracting in two of the last three months. How is it then that investors took Mr. Bernankes words as a buy signal?
How indeed, unless other forces were operating secretly behind the scenes?
Market rigging
Gaming the system may be easier than many people believe. Robert McHugh, Ph.D., has provided a description of how it works which seems consistent with the comments of Robert Heller.
McHugh lays it out like this: The PPT decides markets need intervention, a decline needs to be stopped, or the risks associated with political events that could be perceived by markets as highly negative and cause a decline; need to be prevented by a rally already in flight. To get that rally, the PPTs key component -- the Fed -- lends money to surrogates who will take that fresh electronically printed cash and buy markets through some large unknown buyers account. That buying comes out of the blue at a time when short interest is high. The unexpected rally strikes blood, and fear overcomes those who were betting the market would drop. These shorts need to cover, need to buy the very stocks they had agreed to sell (without owning them) at todays prices in anticipation they could buy them in the future at much lower prices and pocket the difference. Seeing those stocks rally above their committed selling price, the shorts are forced to buy -- and buy they do. Thus, those most pessimistic about the equity market end up buying equities like mad, fueling the rally that the PPT started. Bingo, a huge turnaround rally is well underway, and sidelines money from Hedge Funds, Mutual funds and individuals rushes in to join in the buying madness for several days and weeks as the rally gathers a life of its own. (Robert McHugh, Ph.D., The Plunge Protection Team Indicator)
If a secret team is interfering in the stock market, it presents serious practical and moral issues. For one thing, it disrupts natural corrections which are a normal part of the business cycle and which help to maintain a healthy and competitive slate of equities.
More importantly, outside intervention punishes the people who see the weaknesses in the stock market and have invested accordingly. Clearly, these people are being ripped off by the PPTs back-channel manipulations. They deserve to be fairly compensated for the risks they have taken.
Moreover, artificially propping up the market only encourages over-leveraged speculators and smiley-face Pollyannas who continue to believe that the grossly inflated market will continue to rise. Rewarding foolishness only stimulates greater speculation.
The tinkering of the PPT is sure to erode confidence in the unimpeded activity of capital markets. Its astonishing to think that, after years of singing the praises of the free market as the ultimate expression of Gods divine plan, these same conservative ideologues and market purists favor a strategy for direct intrusion. The actions of the Plunge Protection Team prove that its all baloney. The free market is merely a public relations myth with no basis in reality. Saving the system will always take precedent over ideology, just as the invisible hand will always be overpowered by the manicured and mettlesome fingers of banking elites and Wall Street big wigs. Its their system and theyre not going to let it get wiped out by some silly commitment to principle.
The free market system is supposed to be self cleansing through cyclical purges of over-inflated equities and over-extended speculators. Do we really want central planning from an unelected, Market Nanny that rejiggers the system according to its own economic interests?
The Plunge Protection Team may wrap itself in pompous rhetoric, but it operates like a Fiscal Politburo, inserting itself into the market in way that promotes the narrow interests of its own constituents. Its an outrage.
Besides, the market is so fragile it trembles every time someone halfway around the world sells a fistful of equities. It needs a good shakedown.
The years of deregulation have taken their toll. The market is resting on a foundation of pure quicksand. Collateralized debt, rickety hedge funds, shaky sub-prime equities, and an ocean of margin debt are just a few examples of deregulations excesses. These untested debt instruments are presently bearing down on Wall Street like a laser-guided missile. Itll take more than Hank Paulson and his PPT plumbers unit to prevent the implosion.
Wall Street needs to regain its lost credibility with more regulation and stricter laws. The system needs a major face-lift. Still, even as the markets rumble and shake, Paulson rejects any move towards greater government supervision.
According to The New York Times, Henry Paulson and top financial regulators said the government need not -- and should not -- provide greater oversight for the $1.4 trillion hedge fund industry, or, by extension, the trillions of dollars more in complex derivative transactions spawned by the industry. That stance is mostly free-market ideology run amok. But it is also based on the unproven assumption that unregulated investing, which dispersed risk and reduced volatility as markets surged, will continue to do so when markets tank.
The upshot is a one-sided bet for investors. They have explicit assurances from regulators and policy makers that almost anything goes when the markets are ho
Yes folks just what we need another Bush so that another 3000 citizens can be murdered and more senior citizens can be fleeced of their life savings.
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They are fleecing this entire Nation. I bet theylaugh at us right before bed during their little nigh Cap rituals.
To say this Catholic school is TOTALLY HYPOCRITAL, is an understatement! First they ask teacher's to discuss the issue of shootings, which this teacher was trying to show if those victim's had been armed, shooter would have NOT murdered all those kids. And furthermore, to have a Catholic school be HYPOCRITES since Pope and Catholic church KNOWINGLY passed around those pedofile priests and did NOTHING but move them to unknowingly parrishes is mind boggling! Not to mention the Pope's recent decision to ask for "advice" none other then mass murdering, war criminal, total traitor Henry Kissinger for 'advice" when Pope knows Kissinger is a mass murderer and war crminal is beyond belief! What "advide" did the Pope hope to get from the war criminal? What BS by this school who tries to portray as being so damn innocent! Give me a break! And NO, I am not just bashing Catholic's here either!
Look out for when the Dow hits 13,000. You know how they love "13" and other numbers. If it hits and nothing happens, beware it may hit again...Just a thought.
Riley
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You know what doesn't make sense to me at all?
The DOW goes up, but the dollar falls . Don't these investers understand they are buying at a Loss?
We all know that Jeb Bush like his father says is a great guy. He sat on the board of directors of the Lincoln Savings & Loan, which was the biggest of the savings and loans to collapse during the great savings and loan scam that robbed senior citizens of their life savings, to the tune of 150 billions dollars. How could we forget it was on the front page of every news paper for months, but forget we did? Just happened that daddy Bush was president and with the help of the U.S Ambassador to Kuwait who was increasingly told by Saddam Hussein that Kuwait was Iraqi territory and that he intended to take it back. Glaspie's ill-chosen comments may have helped convince the dictator that Washington would look the other way if he "annexed" a neighboring kingdom and the trap was set the first Gulf war was on and the greatest rip off on senior citizens in this countries history was swept under the rug never to be heard about again. Yes folks just what we need another Bush so that another 3000 citizens can be murdered and more senior citizens can be fleeced of their life savings.
The current administration, well, lives in the caves,under the white house in washington DC.
Freemasons rituals are very strong. Like drugs.
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These people sell Americans welfare off like yesterdays day Old bread.
If the people ever got Wind of what Is really going on in Their halls of Government? These peoplel would all be in prison by Sun up.
Look out for when the Dow hits 13,000. You know how they love "13" and other numbers. If it hits and nothing happens, beware it may hit again...Just a thought.
Riley
You can but imagine how we feel when we see the bubbles waving their flags, sporting their banners on their shirts and hats, hand over their hearts, God have mercy on them, for they have given their allegiance and faith to a haterull breed, Caines legacy exists.
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I just watched, " Orwell rolls over in His Grave."
I knew this country was in Bad shape. I just didn't realise how fra down the toilet we've gone.
But after watching this? Oh BOY! This country better wake the Hell up and Fast.
Re:sane, I really wonder if you download that sound bite,from "demon seed"with Julie christy(english),its so cool. See the movie trailer,I remember seeing it in the theature when it came out. Your such a card. The english really do have great wit.
lololol
What I loved about that interview of Alex on Lars Larsen was the way he stopped Lars every single time that Lars was pumping the accepted propaganda. Alex didn't let a single thing left unsaid. And his passion came through. He explained himself so well. Lars tried to make him look cooky at points more because Lars himself probably felt like shit for not knowing what Alex knows, but Alex fired back point for point in real time. It was amazing.
Is Cheney Right? Will Democrats Cave on Iraq Funding?"
They've caved on everything else, should it be surprising?
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The current administration, well, lives in the caves,under the white house in washington DC.
Freemasons rituals are very strong. Like drugs.
Since we have been given the right to a well formed armed militia, has anyone examined what steps are necessary to do something about the lack of confidence over 80% of Americans have in this govt?
It is so clever the whole Dem v Rep shit.
Pretty soon whack here comes another baseball bat hitting us in the head and then talking away more rights.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 6:19 pm | #
----- Hi S. When Pres. Eisenhower was leaving office he warned us about the Military and the MIC he warned us our contstitution was our anchor, our base of freedom. So have many other pols.to many to mention.
Our defensive and offensive armed forces, including Nukes are the largest globaly. Our tax dollar is the devoted to these mass armadas and their wars so cleverly manipulated..
They began their quest for suprmecy after Korea, and completed their domination after JFK was killed. They went hog wild, and nothing or no one
including our esteemed politicians could stop them or made a major effort to bring them back to the reality, they implanted their pols. and used any method of coersion avaialable, be it blackmail,fortunes,promisses of elections wins, and now these criminals have insideously taken control. The Power.
One last thing, us commoners , us peons,who went to Nam, knew we were screwed from the get go. The ol Gov, the puppet pols. their Elite MIC, we knew them, and we knew they had us by the balls.
We were their cannon fodder, their human sacrifces, so were the Vietnamise. 4 million of em.So for the Vets I knew, this takeover in place, this abomination is the culmination of the Elites dream come true. For many of us this is a rerun of former times, a tragic, and fatefull rerun.Those ho speak of evil on this web, you can be certain this regime and their masters are evil incarnate.
You can but imagine how we feel when we see the bubbles waving their flags, sporting their banners on their shirts and hats, hand over their hearts, God have mercy on them, for they have given their allegiance and faith to a haterull breed, Caines legacy exists.
TULSA,OKLAHOMA POLICE WILL SHOT NIGGERS AND WET-BACKS(HESPANICS)IN THEIR OWN DRIVEWAYS,IF PARKED FOR MORE THAN 20 MIN,IF A BAD NEIGHBOR CALLS THE 911,AND SAYS "BURGLARY IN PROGRESS" AT YOUR OWN HOME OR YOUR FREINDS. IF YOUR ARE IN TULSA. THEY WILL BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT IF YOU MOVE,SO DONT MOVE//END"
P.S.EVEN IF YOU LIVED THERE A WHILE.AT NIGHT. EVEN IF THE FINE OFFICER SAYS PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE STEARING WHEEL OF YOUR GARDENING TRUCK,DONT,IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A NETHAL ACT.RESIT.
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Its "lethal". If the Tulsa Police Department parking in his own driveway, well, it was night, is a clear message that the Tulsa Cops are not letting things be like Los Angeles, or New Mexico, he was in fact "ambushed:. I would suggest to non-white dont move to Tulsa!
Trust me that neighbor knew darn well, he was his home. Imagine if every white call 911, and said "a suspected gardner" is sitting in his truck, on any driveway,in Tusla, could have a very short life.
I say, please,please Tulsa or any one else in the UNited States do not call 911 and do this. This of the life you be saving. Cops are figity, and if you move, then they get scared. They shot.
Downtown Oklahoma city just fine, not Tulsa.
Tulsa has a motto, "up with trees". My cousin lives there, and says so. I live in the Dakotas, local cops,know me and like me. They just dont like "shadows".
lol
Theses pathological liars know precisely what they is doing. Confused hashes of history and wishes are called confabulation.
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Yo fuckhead, Here's an interesting fact for your backward IQ.
The language you use to discribe others is in fact a discription of your own character and feelings.
This is basic psycological analasis training in deducing a patients hidden personality that they are are not able to openly display about them-selves, to receive correct treatment.
They are asked about how they feel about thier friends and aquaintances, in replying they give the game away but do not realise what they have done.
So you are calling Alex Jones a liar, you discribe your-self.
The difference between you and Alex Jones, is Alex Jones reports facts backed up by supported evidence, whereas you give your tiny spiteful opinion.
Alex Jones is just warning us that fuckers like you have murdered 50 million people and they aren't stopping.
"Is Cheney Right? Will Democrats Cave on Iraq Funding?"
They've caved on everything else, should it be surprising?
Texas anyone?
Sara,
I believe the contact number is on the infowars.com home page under contact. I'd have to look again. You can go to Listen Live and get his broadcast repeated throughout the day.
Riley
"Professor Fired Over Va. Tech Discussion"
"Winset, 37, argued that the Catholic liberal arts school was stifling free discussion by firing him, and he said the move would have a "chilling effect" on open debate."
I might not completely agree with the idea that everyone needs to own a gun in this coutnry, but, indeed, it does. [have a chilling effect]
Free speech.
Visual Vendetta | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 8:50 pm | #
V would you email me at precogs@excite.com, I have a link for you.
Re:riley
Here comes grade A certifiable nutjob...
Once again,
Attempting, and likely suuceeding in taking the board to Hell in a hand basket (with the likes of Commenter and Co. trolling through the poppy fields of racial bigotry, cultivating their lies and malcontent; all the while sprinkling delusions of grandeur about the exclusiveness, high ethical bar - by inference, and ultimate supremecy of the "White Race". Meanwhile they continue to broadbrush all "Jews" with feeble arguments for their culpability in everything from A to Z). What a 3 yr old mentality.
And of course,
what a farce.
Riley
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you guys crack me up. bickering like lovers. all the time,its hysterical.now I need lexapro to calm me(again).
What time is alex radio show in Texas time zone and telephone number?
white race?
Awaiting comments on spelling error(s) and obfuscation of truth...
Riley
Just got this.
I heard Jack Blood talk about the 3 stages today and thought I would look into that theory to understand what he was talking about and then I found this video:
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=222&
Itemid=50
It is a collection of short mainstream media and independent film clips on the evolution of 9/11 skepticism. Many of this I have not seen before. It is all new footage to me.
Here comes grade A certifiable nutjob...
Once again,
Attempting, and likely suuceeding in taking the board to Hell in a hand basket (with the likes of Commenter and Co. trolling through the poppy fields of racial bigotry, cultivating their lies and malcontent; all the while sprinkling delusions of grandeur about the exclusiveness, high ethical bar - by inference, and ultimate supremecy of the "White Race". Meanwhile they continue to broadbrush all "Jews" with feeble arguments for their culpability in everything from A to Z). What a 3 yr old mentality.
And of course,
what a farce.
Riley
It appears to me that Alex Jones, Steve Watson and his moron followeres are pathological liars, someone who often embellishes his stories in a way that he believes will impress people. It may be that a pathological liar is different from a normal liar in that a pathological liar believes the lie he is telling to be trueat least in publicand is "playing" the role. He has a serious mental problem that needs to be rectified.
Theses pathological liars know precisely what they is doing. Confused hashes of history and wishes are called confabulation.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia,
I am interested in continuing our discussion from last night about energy. Please email me at precogs@excite.com
Help me out patroits,On Larry king tonite bush nazi read my lips no new taxs drug dealer and mind controled barbara bush will be on special show to nite Mon.I cant watch cause I will thro up,if any of you do,please post a comment about the bullshit they put out. thanks ole terry the vet
Timm,
My friend, you have done it again.
Alex has me laughing my butt off.
Terror Storm 7 times before the first break!
I love Alex Jones.
so many great posts
sane? you must be cool
some of your stuff is long winded but wow
and ak?
God Bless you sir
wolfy?
im still waiting for that scripture where you say that the bible says that jesus is michael????????????
riley and sara and many others
lets rock this chiot
unite
the network starts tonight
hands and 2nd amendment accross america
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anything you want baby I all yours!
(*_*)
Alex Jones is the best!
"sane" has messed up so much.
The Rockefellers and Rothschilds are jews - the former are cryptos but the later make no effort to hide it and it has been reported as such in the mainstream press. Forget what "nordic" crap Alex "I not only shill for jew bankers but blame nordic whites" Jones says.
"Rothschild" = Amschel Mayer.
Also, Madelaine Albright recently "came out as "having jewish heritage" which she recently "discovered".
Given your three massive blunders you are either too ignorant to post here and nowhere near justifying the presumptious arrogant faux authority you display or you are a deliberate disinfo agent jew bankster shill.
Oh and post as many ostensibly White and a.n other politicians as you like - it all counts for nothing if they all serve the jew agenda (how many billions to Israel?) and given your Rothschild/Rockefeller/Albright spectacular blunders I'd say it's too late for you to salvage your own presumed credibility.
Rothschild-Mayers not jews. Wow.
http://news.ncmonline.com/news/
v...5bdfc726ea349be
Senator Hilary Clinton named Latino activist Raul Yzaguirre as the national co-chair of her presidential campaign and the chair of her Hispanic outreach effort, reports Maribel Hastings of La Opinion. Yzaguirre is a former president of the National Council of La Raza,
How 'bout this qoute. I made it up.
GNOSTICISM - Too busy in one's mind, and (less) so in one's heart.
Riley : )
Gonzales Says He's Staying on the Job
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politi...tory?
id=3069953
But many scoffed at Bush's claim of having more confidence in his attorney general after Gonzales' Senate testimony last week that was filled with memory lapses.
My thoughts about this Silent War. I think they portend to be much further along with the mind-control (I may be wrong) just to get you paranoid about everything, not unlike when they drop calling cards with numerology everywhere and stick uncanny premonitions in movies etc... This gives them an edge psychologically while they prophecy over you, and tell you it is not a matter of "if" but "when"!! Surrender and assume the position!! Then you are resigned to give up and just let them have their way without a fight. We have got to level the playing field with disclosure and infowar... And we can prophecy too you know!!
Riley
we dont need no more evidence
anyone just coming to this blog needs to know only one thing
the resistance is NOW
there is no tommorrow
wake up NOW
all american patriots stop the machine today
use this blog to support all alex does for the truth movement
support these other heros that do shows etc...
we are one country
indivisible
we the people stand together
stand against tyrrany
stand against criminals
stand against satan worshippers
TULSA,OKLAHOMA POLICE WILL SHOT NIGGERS AND WET-BACKS(HESPANICS)IN THEIR OWN DRIVEWAYS,IF PARKED FOR MORE THAN 20 MIN,IF A BAD NEIGHBOR CALLS THE 911,AND SAYS "BURGLARY IN PROGRESS" AT YOUR OWN HOME OR YOUR FREINDS. IF YOUR ARE IN TULSA. THEY WILL BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT IF YOU MOVE,SO DONT MOVE//END"
P.S.EVEN IF YOU LIVED THERE A WHILE.AT NIGHT. EVEN IF THE FINE OFFICER SAYS PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE STEARING WHEEL OF YOUR GARDENING TRUCK,DONT,IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A NETHAL ACT.RESIT.
I know they are systematically destroying our armed forces (the real reason for iraq), and iRobot and Star Wars II is conditioning us to see rows and rows of cloned or robot soldiers everywhere.
We are being left defenseless and need to get the fuck out of there!
Rock this CHIOT!!
hehehe.
Riley
Riley
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 7:43 pm | #
Riley-I always look for the conditioning in the TV/Movies:
HBO has been playing the siege, live wire, etc.
Whenever they stick the same fucking visual in 2 completely different movies it points to conditioning.
This is just the most amazing interview of Alex by Lars Larsen. Alex tells it like it is as usual.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/
audio...6LarsLarson.mp3
Or another hypothosis, I saw a interview on Project Camelot's web-site, a half native Indian who had remote veiwing capacitys. Anyhow in that interveiw he says that he's seen a volcanic eruption from the Northern tip of Alaska, to the Southern tip of Mexico. It splits the Country in 2. When will it occur? he was asked, very soon, was his reply.
If he's right, maybe thats why the Bee's have scarpered. They know things we don't.
bit | 04.23.07 - 7:28 pm | #
Talkin bout the ultimate warrior?
His story seems to match a dozen others 2012, year of some seriously crazy shit. Either a fake earthquake (like the tsunami one - see voxfux) or alien invasion, or the oldie but goodie red button.
so many great posts
sane? you must be cool
some of your stuff is long winded but wow
and ak?
God Bless you sir
wolfy?
im still waiting for that scripture where you say that the bible says that jesus is michael????????????
riley and sara and many others
lets rock this chiot
unite
the network starts tonight
hands and 2nd amendment accross america
Not to say all the other gobbledygook isn't Sane. I have engaged many of those issues as well, but they will most certainly be trumped by the coming war and this kind of technology. Keep it up!
Riley
Hey bit,
This man that has recently clued me in to the real warfare - says that the super-colliders are a front for the real research which is ultimately mind-control (this way they can get the funding). He called them Sychrometers (or something like that). He says they are being built underground all over the place with diameters from 22miles to 52miles (some you can even place a sizable city inside). I cannot substantiate this. So don't take my word. I CAN substantiate the pictures of chemtrails and directed energy pulses!! Something is definitely going on! Whether there is infact a bio-feedback loop to this gentleman (a "wet-wire") that acts like two-way transmitter of sorts, Lord only knows...
Afterall, the last frontier really is the "mind". Even if you claim it is "outerspace", you must still go there with your mind in tact (hopefully).
Riley
Frankly,,
I think we could just about drop everything and start analyzing this mind-control stuff for real. If it be true, everything else is mute.
Riley
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 7:21 pm | #
No argument here
Did anyone just see Ron Paul on CNN?
He just owned so much face it's ridiculous.
Two minutes of articulate, uninterrupted speaking on 'free trade', economic, monetary and international policy.
Tyler Smith | 04.23.07 - 7:06 pm | #
It is amazing how odd it is to see a politician cut through the bullshit. It is like watching a documentary. I usually have to verify that it really is the tv.
I suppose since we are controlled from birth (our genetic make-up rendering the sophistication of our mental faculties and ability to even ponder the relevance of mind-control schemes; let alone the actual minutia details that comprise the social engineering mechanisms that have now become technological as well as psychological) we can ultimately be satisfied that we are not in control and never have been (when it comes right down to it). Perhaps this is just a new insight that will ultimately lead us to the Creator one day...One can only hope...
I have a unique way of looking at things huh?
Riley : )
with regards to the Honey Bee's disapearing,
It said in the article that thier navigation is off or something.
Maybe it's something to do with the Super Collider Project, they facists have built around Paris France. It's a massive contstruction project and creates a magnetic field 300'000 times more powerful than the strongest magnetic field in the known Universe. According to a BBC news report about 5 years ago.
Or another hypothosis, I saw a interview on Project Camelot's web-site, a half native Indian who had remote veiwing capacitys. Anyhow in that interveiw he says that he's seen a volcanic eruption from the Northern tip of Alaska, to the Southern tip of Mexico. It splits the Country in 2. When will it occur? he was asked, very soon, was his reply.
If he's right, maybe thats why the Bee's have scarpered. They know things we don't.
Frankly,,
I think we could just about drop everything and start analyzing this mind-control stuff for real. If it be true, everything else is mute.
Riley
I am quite certain of this now, because I recently became acquainted with someone who is sharing his research (though somewhat sloppy) with me. He has been a transient running from this technology that literally follows him with EMP pulses and bio-feedback loops that are magnetic in nature. This is all new to me. But my eyes have been opened. The pictures he has are very alarming. It has something to do with the chemtrails, SDI (Star Wars Defense Initiative), HAARP, sychotrometers (spelling?), the "Z-machine" at Sandia National Laboratory, mirrors on satellites, range-finder lasers that gather target information, psychocivilized society (entire regions electrically stimulated without their knowledge), etc. etc...
The journey begins...
Riley
(If they can do this stuff from a distance, then chip implants will be relegated to less prominance in light of even greater evils...Controlling the mind and other biological functions is paramount and of primary significance in this new and Siilent War. I realized they could shoot holographs in the air when I was in the service in early 90's, but I had no idea the mind-control technologies were coming along at light speed.)
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 7:08 pm | #
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U are a transiet trash digger,with a lap top.
U worship satan or are satan.
U you are evil.
U are running but this harp will be over U
U are GPS.
U have star tracking device from prosion.
U are in a RV out of propane
U see those men in black glasses
U worship lucifer!
Screwing around with the magnetic fields may also be affecting the bee population. This is just a WAG of mine (Wild Ass Guess). And I have no substantiation. I have heard of the Monsanto stuff too. Who knows. I am not a scientist.
Riley
Good question about why the nations flags were at half staff for a week due to the VT shootings victims and NOT for the 3300+ American soldiers that have died in Iraq.
My guess is the VT students are much more deserving of respect and remembrance than our fallen soldiers because they were privileged enough to own stables and ride horses at the well-to-do-only-invited posh country clubs AS CNN WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE. Where the heck are the pictures of the other students that lost their lives? Oh yeah, it's been a few days by the way since you've shown any fallen American soldiers faces on the tube also. What is it maybe 2-3 every 2-3 days now when you decide SOME of the fallen are worthy of our attention?
What a bunch of shit.
By the way. This guy is a former active duty service member who was experimented on. He is tracking this stuff everywhere he goes trying to document it with limited funds (no I.D.) and very little access to a computer. Mostly he is taking several pictures of the directed energy pulses from the sky that seem to eminate from auroral fields and Berium (? spelling) clouds (after planes do their chemtrail business). I have seen the pics. Not good boyz and girlz...
Riley
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/s...tory/?
id=125764
i dare ya to click the link........................
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/s...tory/?
id=125764
Tulsa Police shot a man Sunday night and his family says he did not deserve it. Tulsa Police shot Martinez Owens in an incident in the 4800 block of North Iroquois late Sunday night. The shooting happened in the driveway of a home, where Tulsa Police were investigating a burglary call. The man's family says it was his driveway. News On 6 reporter Emory Bryan says there is a conflict between the information given by the Tulsa Police and what the man's family says happened.
Here is what is undisputed; a man was shot, either in the driveway or street by his own house, and it happened during a burglary investigation. Tulsa Police say there is no indication the man was a burglar, but he might have been intoxicated.
Tulsa Police were checking on a burglary call when they say Martinez Owens drove down the street in a manner that indicated he might be under the influence. Officers talked with Owens and say he reached for something in the car and that is when a police officer fired three shots.
Owens mother, Alice Martinez says her son was hit four times. "It's one thing to be shot but to be shot four times; come on, something isn't right with that picture. Four times one bullet can stop one person, you know, four times, it's an ambush, sitting in your own driveway, he'd been there nine years, he lived there 9 years."
Martinez Owens, the man who was shot, is the father of a little boy who died because of an infection picked up at a city of Tulsa park in 2005. Martinez Owens Jr. died of naegleria, an infection picked up from stagnant water at a Mohawk Park splash pad. The family recently settled a lawsuit with the city of Tulsa over the boy's death. The family tells the News On 6, the settlement was for $200,000. Related stories:
4/23/2007 - Officer Involved Shooting
I am quite certain of this now, because I recently became acquainted with someone who is sharing his research (though somewhat sloppy) with me. He has been a transient running from this technology that literally follows him with EMP pulses and bio-feedback loops that are magnetic in nature. This is all new to me. But my eyes have been opened. The pictures he has are very alarming. It has something to do with the chemtrails, SDI (Star Wars Defense Initiative), HAARP, sychotrometers (spelling?), the "Z-machine" at Sandia National Laboratory, mirrors on satellites, range-finder lasers that gather target information, psychocivilized society (entire regions electrically stimulated without their knowledge), etc. etc...
The journey begins...
Riley
(If they can do this stuff from a distance, then chip implants will be relegated to less prominance in light of even greater evils...Controlling the mind and other biological functions is paramount and of primary significance in this new and Siilent War. I realized they could shoot holographs in the air when I was in the service in early 90's, but I had no idea the mind-control technologies were coming along at light speed.)
Did anyone just see Ron Paul on CNN?
He just owned so much face it's ridiculous.
Two minutes of articulate, uninterrupted speaking on 'free trade', economic, monetary and international policy.
I did not know that some Libraries are open 24/7. And they allow people to stay on the web for hours, if not days?
Marcianne | 04.22.07 - 2:43 pm | #
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IMMUNINATE CRAFT TO STOP PEOPLE FROM TALKING ABOUT:
6 steps to an Illuminati executed Massacre:
1) Control the media before the event
Soledad, Imus Out
Roberts, Gregory In
Agents positioned at all blogs to get ready to limit the conversation away from logical thinking and towards "emotion-based" thoughts:
Here are the "conversation quotes" that are intended to divert the critical analysis in seeing how many holes there are in this story: Liberal Blogs:
-stop the racism against asians
-gun control is important
-stop stalkers who endanger women's rights
-this is not about immigration guys
-how can we protect our kids from monsters
Conservative blogs (just about the opposite):
-They are trying to take our guns, if those kids had guns they would be alive
-Women always make men crazy
-He was connected to islamic messages
-We have to close the borders
-He looks like a killer, those students were pussies, I woulda taken him out Conspiracy blogs:
-This is connected to a zionist conspiracy
-The unabomber was a jew and this guy was trained by jews, listen to his anti-christian messages
-He was a shape shifting alien from the planet omfgtheybelvme
-This all has to do with numerology, look at the numbers 4-16-2007 = 911
-If you don't stop talking about this and start talking about 911-I'm leaving-Only the scriptures will save us, do nothing for Jesus will save all 2) Keep hands off the scapegoat
-Stalker lived on university
-State of Virginia declares him a mental risk
-He is allowed to own handguns and much ammo
-Teachers, students repeatedly complained
-Students call the cops as they believe he is a stalker
-he is left alone in the 2 hours between 1st and 2nd killings
-he is allowed in a federal building (post office) after a homicide, bomb threats, state-declared mentally at risk
3) Make sure that plenty of distractions are available and have command and control:
-Police were almost frozen
-Put on various false paths including supposedly catching the wong guy
-Bomb threats called in to get FBI and other agencies set up and ready to go-could also let black ops oversee all command and control-Give multiple stand down orders from those who stand to gain the most-Get ready for a "friendle fiere" excuse like with Tillman 4) Glorify saviors on the media:
-Our pressident
-school security experts
-MK Ultra psychiatrists that make sure the conversation never talks about MK Ultra
-Gun control experts
-Religious experts that tell us about God's will 5) Shift any conversation about multiple people to a lone gunman
-is there any doubt about this?-There were multiple reports of multiple gunmen, only one casing shell matches 6) Leak the evidence to media/police that identifies a lone gunman
-Mind control the masses by continue to show visual connections to a lone gunman so that the subconscioous blocks logical thought and reason. Make sure they refer to it as with a catchy phrase like "media manifesto." -Think about it, in between this largest mass shooting by one human in the history of the world, he finds time to go to the post office (a federally protected ground) and get his "package" timestamped so that everyone will be able to know it was him even though he took time to file off the serial numbers on his guns and left the receipt for them in his backpack.
How many killers were there?
17 injured (at least 3 bullets per)
32 dead (probably more than 3 bullets per)
Median of 250 bullets that hit their targets by one person with 2 hand guns (9mm and .22)during a two hour total period of violence? Also, who chained the doors? What happened to the bodies on the grass and the sidewalk? Why did the president of VT speak at a conference in 2005 about ways to get more surveillance and police power on schools (the same year Cho was in a mental health ward)? Why did the president of VT not immediately release the medical records of Cho? What is he hiding? We know the history at Columbine about mind altering drugs and violent behavior. The fact remains that we have no chance of freedom while engaged in a never ending war against an abstract enemy. Any poly sci person knows it. The war must end now, 911 must be exposed, this massacre must be looked at with a fine tooth comb!
And a new 911 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h? v=q7aRR9FGGJc
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http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/m.../
ex122804a.html
Also, the above link "may" have some good info. I just stumbled into it. There are so many sites now on the Net (who can know which ones are to be trusted without cross-referencing them). Not sure the real purpose here other than alerting ourselves to the technology (the FACT that it exists and is being used) since none of us are hardly in a position to do much or anything about it....Unfortunately. However, the beginning of freedom is and always will be knowledge. "My people suffer for lack of knowledge..."
Riley
fellow oklahoma citizens,your not a white supremest system or state, the tulsa PD,is not god, let the blacks and mexicans park in their driveways at night, no POW!POW!, or hit squads
for the drunks. that young fella would of been $200,000 rich if you did not blow that man brains out for just " moveing" or that mexican in class "flinch", you tulsa officers are gun happy!!
HA!
Up with trees the motto is in Tulsa,you Oklahoma are sooooo racist, it hurts!
see following link:
http://www.thetunneller.co.uk/ ar...Stimulation.htm
I think it is time we begin to get acquainted with the Future they have in store for us. I for one am going to begin reading more and more about mind-control. This isn't even the most cutting edge stuff here...
Riley
(Now are we beginning to get a picture how a "Stong Delusion" may soon coincide with latter day events...)
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 6:42 pm | #
THANKS!!!!
re sane
The signature "US Officials says" is synonymous with "Bullshit" so i wouldnt put too much faith in those claims. I completely missed this story, ive had a busy week, but my guess would be that Cheney shot him and they dropped him out of a plane over Irani soil
Radio stimulation of different points in the amygdala and hippocampus in the four patients produced a variety of effects including pleasant sensations, elation, deep, thoughtful, concentration, odd feelings , super relaxation, colored visions, and other responses. In this article we will discuss only the following selected results:
see following link:
http://www.thetunneller.co.uk/
ar...Stimulation.htm
I think it is time we begin to get acquainted with the Future they have in store for us. I for one am going to begin reading more and more about mind-control. This isn't even the most cutting edge stuff here...
Riley
(Now are we beginning to get a picture how a "Stong Delusion" may soon coincide with latter day events...)
re sane
How to deal with the high disaproval? http://impeachforpeace.org/ Impea...ImpeachNow.html
DIY Impeachment of course, sign & send
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 6:36 pm | #
I have already signed a dozen and have gotten scores to sign as well. Localized power must be reinstated after the hangings.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 6:31 pm | #
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/...k/
N23309957.htm
There have been at least 20 stories, Iran is holding him/not holding him. It's like ping pong, thought you might be able to shed some light.
Unfortunately, I cannot remember if I had clicked on "feedback left for others" The feedback in his profile AFTER the killings were from sellers, meaning he had just purchased some stuff and one buyer showing he had just sold and mailed some game tickets (I don't remember what game, though...)
I really need to start saving screenshots. Sometimes you just don't know what is important.
re sane
How to deal with the high disaproval? http://impeachforpeace.org/
Impea...ImpeachNow.html
DIY Impeachment of course, sign & send
Merck Submits New Cross-Protection Data for GARDASILŽ to the FDA and Seeks New Indications for Vaginal and Vulvar Cancers
WHITEHOUSE STATION, N.J., April 17, 2007 - Merck announced today the Company has submitted a supplemental Biologics License Application (sBLA) for GARDASILŽ [Quadrivalent Human Papillomavirus (Types 6, 11, 16, 1 Recombinant Vaccine] to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to update the labeling for GARDASIL, the cervical cancer vaccine. The new submission for GARDASIL includes efficacy data showing some protection against additional cervical cancer causing HPV types responsible for greater than 10 percent of cervical cancers, data on protection against additional gynecological cancers -- vaginal and vulvar, and data on immune memory.
GARDASIL is the world's first and only cervical cancer vaccine, and is approved for use in girls and women ages 9 to 26 for the prevention of HPV types 16- and 18-related cervical cancer, cervical pre-cancers (CIN 2/3 and AIS), vulvar pre-cancers (VIN 2/3) and vaginal pre-cancers (VaIN 2/3) and for the prevention of genital warts and low-grade cervical lesions (CIN 1) caused by HPV types 6, 11, 16 and 18. GARDASIL helps protect against the four HPV types that cause the most HPV disease. HPV types 16 and 18 account for approximately 70 percent of cases of cervical cancer, non-invasive cervical cancer (CIN 3, AIS), vulvar and vaginal pre-cancers (VIN 2/3 and VaIN 2/3), and for 50 percent of grade 2 cervical lesions (CIN 2). HPV 6 and 11 cause approximately 90 percent of genital wart cases. These four types of HPV also cause approximately 35 to 50 percent of all low-grade cervical, vulvar and vaginal lesions (CIN I, VIN I and VaIN I).
Bravo Merck, Thank You ! | 04.23.07 - 4:36 pm | #
Bravo promoter of pharmacutical fascism. Bravo to Vioxx creator and briber of FDA. Bravo of briber of governors to push your untested drugs and vaccines, bravo.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 5:08 pm | #
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Hey Wolf,
Here is your proof that you are right !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...?v=9...related&
search=
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The suppositin as to how many might be alive if students had guns is simly silly. We won't know. I know enough students and their drinking habits not to want them toting guns around. That said, why is it that the military gives out rifes but no live ammo for our soldiers except on the rifle range? I had live ammo only when in a combat zone
But the post iseflis at best questionalbe: who has blamed video games for this? name papers, please.The killer known via his great aunt to be a problem before he came to America and when he was very very young. She nor anyone else has not blamed games at all.
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naughty | 04.23.07 - 5:01 pm | #
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But he said it in the context of the question of WTC 7.
TimM | 04.23.07 - 5:00 pm | #
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Kerry refers to the slurry "wall" and that they "had to destroy other things in a controlled fashion".
TimM | 04.23.07 - 4:56 pm | #
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re The Amazing Kretzkin
Wolf is a complete loon and seem to have very little interest in debating anything seriously. as you point out, anyone who disagrees with the slightest thing is a shill. What can be said to someone like that?
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:53 pm | #
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A message for Wolf from the future
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=u7VaqRGi0GU
I read the article about the GI giving a purple heart to the president, etc. I know that it is difficult to understand but there are people who are thouroughly convinced that the US Goverment and its reps. are the clean machine.
A example of this would be to see a movie with the name of Born on the 4th of July. A born and raised patriotic youth, a Nam vet, is paralized, to later discover the war was a sham for the big dogs.
If our politicans can not withdraw before 2008, we are in for some serious problems, as though we arent now, I know, but the dominos are only beggining to fall. They were well placed and planed by our Elite regime.
chris jones | 04.23.07 - 6:13 pm | #
Since we have been given the right to a well formed armed militia, has anyone examined what steps are necessary to do something about the lack of confidence over 80% of Americans have in this govt?
It is so clever the whole Dem v Rep shit.
Pretty soon whack here comes another baseball bat hitting us in the head and then talking away more rights.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 6:19 pm | #
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re sane
I belive even Alex Jones mentioned the steel in the warehouse, it was pretty big news. regarding the Iran FBI dude.. well not sure which one you´re referring to. Are we talking history i think you want Theodore Shackley, he died a few years ago and was/is CIA. His pal is getting out of jail soon so there may be some new stories coming out. If you are talking current Iran i´d say its mostly an Israeli operation, at least that´s what they themselves say if you read the IDF news releases
Debates can be stimulating and raise question that can produce positive results. Opinions experessed on a sincere basis, no matter the subject matter pertaining to this site.
However I can not fathom why people would resort to some of the posts made recently. Is it just to get kicks, or is it a paid for deterant to cut up this site, or is it simply a physcotic release.
Yesterday, was chock full of racism, specifically about Mexicans, homosexual remarks off the wall, lude and obnxious statements one after another.
Apparently with no other point that to antagnozie and take up space.
My point, a new person enters this site with good intentions, ya know, whats this all about attitude, then they get hit with some of the posts I been seeing lately. If you just came on this site and read the writeins the past few days would you form a oppinion, would it be positive, would you return. Just a thought, ya know, you folks have been on here for some time and know how the levels can turn, ok, but some folks are just begging to hook into this site,it is for their sake i have mentioned this more than anything. Ok. thanks.
List of disgraced Bush officials (2001 - present)
-Tom Ridge (Homeland Security director, 2001-2005)
-Colin Powell (Secretary of State, 2001-2005)
-Andrew Card (Press Secretary)
-Scott McClellan (Press Secretary)
-John Ashcroft (Attorney General, 2001-2005)
-Alberto Gonzalez, (Attorney General, 2005-present)
-Donald Rumsfeld (Defense Secretary, 2001-2006)
-Paul Wolfowitz (Deputy Defense Secretary, 2001-2005; World Bank President, 2005-present)
-Lewis "Scooter" Libby (Vice President Chief of Staff, 2001-2005)
Who is next? Feel free to update the list.
This is really cute. And it's only 3 seconds long.
http://uncutvideo.aol.com/ events...vents...4a6fdb2? index=0
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Thanks. we all needed this about now. hilarious
Marcianne | 04.23.07 - 6:19 pm | #
I noticed that the entire blog, everytime you post, nobody repsonds. They ignore U.
huummmmm
And, sane...I hit Ebay the day the articles came out and they were already pulling listings so you couldn't research it. There was feedback left AFTER the killings. Now, they claim the user has REQUESTED his feedback be private? How does a dead man request anything?
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/
eBay...rid=blazers5505
Dr. No NWO, where are you ? We haven't heard from you in a while, please let me know you're still with us please. Write to me -kells_marie@yahoo.com
Miss you Dr!
I read the article about the GI giving a purple heart to the president, etc. I know that it is difficult to understand but there are people who are thouroughly convinced that the US Goverment and its reps. are the clean machine.
A example of this would be to see a movie with the name of Born on the 4th of July. A born and raised patriotic youth, a Nam vet, is paralized, to later discover the war was a sham for the big dogs.
If our politicans can not withdraw before 2008, we are in for some serious problems, as though we arent now, I know, but the dominos are only beggining to fall. They were well placed and planed by our Elite regime.
chris jones | 04.23.07 - 6:13 pm | #
Since we have been given the right to a well formed armed militia, has anyone examined what steps are necessary to do something about the lack of confidence over 80% of Americans have in this govt?
It is so clever the whole Dem v Rep shit.
Pretty soon whack here comes another baseball bat hitting us in the head and then talking away more rights.
This is really cute. And it's only 3 seconds long.
http://uncutvideo.aol.com/
events...vents...4a6fdb2? index=0
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Thanks. we all needed this about now. hilarious
Problem is, Ebay doesn't sell ammunition... it doesn't even sell guns. What the VT killer bought were clips (magazines), not "ammo"-- if it was even him . Will ABC News correct itself? Will ABC News admit it was not only misinformed on an easily checked issue, but acted with tabloid journalism to boot?
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 5:52 pm | #
Good catch. I had read the article from other news sources and they DIDN'T say "ammo."
Actually, look at this, they bounce back and forth (it's actually REUTERS, not ABC) saying clips and ammo, showing they DO actually know the difference. Liberal campaign perhaps?
http://abcnews.go.com/search?sea...ay&
type=feature
I read the article about the GI giving a purple heart to the president, etc. I know that it is difficult to understand but there are people who are thouroughly convinced that the US Goverment and its reps. are the clean machine.
A example of this would be to see a movie with the name of Born on the 4th of July. A born and raised patriotic youth, a Nam vet, is paralized, to later discover the war was a sham for the big dogs.
If our politicans can not withdraw before 2008, we are in for some serious problems, as though we arent now, I know, but the dominos are only beggining to fall. They were well placed and planed by our Elite regime.
yer e-mail has devil................creepy.juts a typeo amazeing NOT!
ist true naomi is a spy,snitch,informant for the cops.
naughty | 04.23.07 - 5:43 pm | #
WOW...Your intelligence just astounds me. You can actually read letters strung together. Are they going to let you take the helmet off soon?
Fanatical Dreams- Wolf at church LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h?
v=ftt3qdDEzeQ
ak48 you seem to speak my language on some stuff, can you get me the link on the steel to be used to indict Bush and do you know more thatn the surface info on the FBI iran dude that used to hund red mobsters?
naughty | 04.23.07 - 6:00 pm | #
Sure. You can email me, but don't be surprised when your internet doesn't work any longer.
This is really cute. And it's only 3 seconds long.
http://uncutvideo.aol.com/events...4a6fdb2?
index=0
Actually this http://www.thehemperor.net/
talks..._bev_020187.mp3
may be useful to anyone who wants to understand the origin of Rex 84 & Cable Splicer and what the original intention was.
oh i forgot,amazeing k,can i eemail devilr.hotmale you,nahh,im telling ya facts,naomi bad news man.she a fuckin wank,and she richm,and she turned some sherriffs into the fbi for drugs and they wanna kill her,the deputy had to quit the foircem,and she got real TRO(not tos)she dont play fair man,.shes demon seed, by with your e-mail devil,you might be kissen cousins OR sumpin!
she uses sex on cops for powwer,she likes christian fundementalists,shes a demon seed,in the moview,when it matures,its a-sexual,sane was right,its thinks, then it comes true,no joke, shes,outta this world,all in the mind too, shes spooky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Will ABC News correct itself? Will ABC News admit it was not only misinformed on an easily checked issue, but acted with tabloid journalism to boot?
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 5:52 pm | #
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More VT lies:
http://informationliberation.com...n.com/?
id=21665
ABC News: VT Killer 'Purchased Ammo' on Ebay... But Ebay Doesn't SELL Ammunition!
by Warner Todd Huston
ABC News tries its hand at sensationalism with a story on the VT killer buying "ammo" on the auction site Ebay, but muffs it badly getting all the relevant facts wrong. But it sure is a good headline... Ammo from eBay? VT Killer May Have Used Site
April 21, 2007 -- ABCNews has learned that in the months before his shooting spree at Virginia Tech, Seung-Hui Cho may have purchased 20 rounds of ammunition through the online auction site eBay. An eBay account holder who appears to be Cho purchased a two-pack of 10-round ammunition clips for a Walther P22 on March 22, 2007, less than a month before Cho killed 32 people and himself at Virginia Tech. The ammunition was purchased on eBay from Elk Ridge Shooting Supplies for the same type of weapon used by Cho in his bloody rampage last week.
Problem is, Ebay doesn't sell ammunition... it doesn't even sell guns. What the VT killer bought were clips (magazines), not "ammo"-- if it was even him . Will ABC News correct itself? Will ABC News admit it was not only misinformed on an easily checked issue, but acted with tabloid journalism to boot?
amazeing ya ho, you been bashed for days and no one got you banned,naomi bash me.now u nerve,ya get mad amazeing,was it the tulsa thingy.look, the watson bros,run this rag,yo silly,tos those sever slaugh,at ya bro.naomi is the demon seed,like sane says she bad news ababy,she drove many to commit suicide,she driven sane men nuts,.she sbitches on cops, and vic versa man, she bad news,man.she driove me into thearpy.remmeber azaaing kestin your emails, "devil",.ya creepy guy, man. fukkke the cops are scare dof that ho,namoi,man shes informant paid to, she,bring any one down, shes a demon seed yep[pyep.
Ok, here comes the real reason for the VT slaughter:
http://informationliberation.com...n.com/?
id=21668
State to Decide Who is a Dangerously Unstable Person
Kurt Nimmo
Recall the establishment of the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health in April 2002 and its recommendations issued in July, 2003. Bushs commission found that despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed and the way to address this so-called problem was to screen consumers of all ages, especially preschool children, for mental problems, or what mental health professionals and drug company executives consider mental problems. Each year, young children are expelled from preschools and childcare facilities for severely disruptive behaviors and emotional disorders. According to the commission, schools are in a key position to screen the 52 million students and 6 million adults who work at the schools.
The commission commended the Texas Medication Algorithm Project (TMAP) as a model medication treatment plan that illustrates an evidence-based practice that results in better consumer outcomes, in other words, more people on expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, the sort of drugs that worked so well in Cho Seung-Huis case. It should be noted, as well, that the Texas project started in 1995 as an alliance of individuals from the pharmaceutical industry, the University of Texas, and the mental health and corrections systems of Texas. The project was funded by a Robert Wood Johnson grantand by several drug companies. Allen Jones, an employee of the Pennsylvania Office of the Inspector General, revealed that key officials with influence over the medication plan in his state received money and perks from drug companies with a stake in the medication algorithm, reports BMJ, a medical journal. For his effort, Jones was fired.
Now we have Bush directing federal officials to conduct a national inquiry into how to prevent violence by dangerously unstable people in the wake of Virginia Tech, according to CBN News. Of course, in a free society, there are few ways to prevent dangerously unstable people from going postal, especially if they are law-abiding beforehand. No doubt we will see yet another commission recommending the widespread use of so-called antidepressants, never mind these SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) are reported to cause anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania
in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric, according to David Healy and David Menkes from Cardiff University, and Andrew Herxheimer from the UK Cochrane Centre. In other words, in certain individuals, presumably such as Cho, SSRI drugs act as a catalyst for violence, both self-directed (i.e., suicide) and outward toward the community. Apparently, Bush and the pharms want to make sure every Cho in the country goes postal. It is a small price to pay for record pharm industry profits.
President Bush has directed three cabinet secretaries to huddle with educators, mental health experts and government officials across the nation to recommend ways to avoid a repeat of Mondays shooting rampage at Virginia Tech, reports the Washington Post. The reviewto be headed by Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales and Education Secretary Margaret Spellingscomes as educational institutions debate how to deal with early warning signs that a student may be dangerous to himself and others.
Here we have a gaggle of bureaucrats, including one who specializes in legalizing torture, directing mental health experts and government officials across the nation, in other words figuring out how get the government even more involved in the lives of ordinary people who, after all, might have another Cho or any number of Chos in their midst. Leavitt will summarize what they learn and report back to me with recommendations about how we can help to avoid such tragedies, Bush said. Asked how long the review will take, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said: Not long. This is a new tasking by the president, and so a lot of the details are still being worked out. Secretary Leavitt said he plans to get started quickly. Translation: expect recommendations, similar to those reached by the Texas Medication Algorithm Project, to drug the population at large, that is after mandatory screening. It should be noted that Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, a Democrat, has empanelled a gaggle of experts of his own, including former Ministry of Homeland Security secretary Tom Ridge.
According to Universal Health, people with chronic mental illness or with exacerbations of symptoms could be guided directly into supervised and therapeutic settings
. Nurses learn early on that just because a patient says no to care, doesnt mean that it goes unquestioned. When no isnt based on rational decision making, or when cognition and judgement are suspect, we have clear and ethical processes to use to determine substituted judgment.
In other words, mental health experts, in league with government bureaucrats, will decide who is mentally ill. There is, of course, a balance to be struck between civil liberties and treating the mentally ill, writes Rich Lowry for the Salt Lake Tribune. But that balance is now badly off-kilter. Cho Seung-Hui was basically abandoned to his private mental hell at Virginia Tech. While he hatched his lunatic and hateful plot, everyone tried to ignore the scary guy in class behind the sunglasses. It was Chos poetry and plays that supposedly provided the tip-off to his insanity.
Certainly in this sensitized day and age, my own college writingincluding a short story called Cain Rose Up and the novel RAGEwould have raised red flags, and Im certain someone would have tabbed me as mentally ill because of them, writes the novelist Stephen King. For most creative people, the imagination serves as an excretory channel for violence: We visualize what we will never actually do.
Of course, in an era when a balance is to be struck between civil liberties and treating the mentally ill, there will be no tolerance for such excretory channels for violence. Is it possible, if now just coming up as a writer, Stephen King would be guided directly into supervised and therapeutic setting and force-fed massive quantities of Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors? On the whole, I dont think you can pick these guys out based on their work, unless you look for violence unenlivened by any real talent, King concludes.
Is it possible Bush's New Freedom Initiative, which recommends mental health screening for all Americans, could ultimately be used to institute political psychiatry in this country? muses blogger Mack White. This practice is not without precedent, the most notorious examples being the Soviet Union and present-day China. Also, it is a fact that political psychiatry has been recommended by at least one psychiatrist working for the CIA. In 1974, MK-ULTRA scientist Dr. Jose Delgado, Director of Neuropsychiatry at Yale Medical School, stated in testimony to Congress: We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated.
In our brave new era, surgical mutilation is no longer required.
Instead, our government, working with the pharm industry and psychiatric experts, can guide the officially designated paranoids, be they deluded writers or political activists, into supervised and therapeutic settings where massive doses of Paxil will be administered.
I don't think you are troll, Sane, just a fucking nut-job. I have at least a little more respect for you than them. I can handle a nut-job, at least...
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 5:40 pm | #
Uh... thank you?
Sara: here's a freebe for ya:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...1001399_pf.html
Anyone wishing to continue dialog with me outside of this atmosphere, can email me:
devilingr@excite.com
Trolls, be warned, you will be reported for abuse of your TOS agreements with your respective ISP.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 5:35 pm | #
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yer e-mail has devil................creepy.juts a typeo amazeing NOT!
ist true naomi is a spy,snitch,informant for the cops.
After re-reading your other comments I have faith that you need no coaching and will be able to make up your own mind.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 5:27 pm | #
Right, Sane. like you NEVER called me a shill?
I don't think you are troll, Sane, just a fucking nut-job. I have at least a little more respect for you than them. I can handle a nut-job, at least...
hey naomi,ho,your dont liek la?hum,.okay one last question!honaoi,pumkinpie,i knew you like cops, you have sex with cops(and police chiefs)all over,now OK, you smoke ajoint with that nephew oklahoma sherriff,you got some intel, now were ya get all that petro,babay,to drive from la to new york?all while copper light ya up,a nd ya have sex withem?youa cool,gal,whatevver ya are,.trolls know itr, i know irt,labor gays know yo ho bitchchhs ,ya wild gal huh,jho!!!
Anyone wishing to continue dialog with me outside of this atmosphere, can email me:
devilingr@excite.com
Trolls, be warned, you will be reported for abuse of your TOS agreements with your respective ISP.
Ah, and another one http://www.thehemperor.net/
talks..._bev_020187.mp3
Although this may be more relevant
Classic
http://www.dangerouscitizen.com/...ile.aspx?
id=421
Die for oil sucker
Re:naughty,
Listen up. First that little secret agent radio shack tape-recorder you plant and use, go to the White House in Washington DC and tape Bush and Gannen and the Freemasons sex things.
Me, Im reformed. I no longer a city gal,I rented my Masion in East Los Angeles, and moved to the country. I am a "country gal" now...
ya all
Tulsa cops? Here the sucking sounds//////////////;lol
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:53 pm | #
After re-reading your other comments I have faith that you need no coaching and will be able to make up your own mind.
re The Amazing Kretzkin
Wolf is a complete loon and seem to have very little interest in debating anything seriously. as you point out, anyone who disagrees with the slightest thing is a shill. What can be said to someone like that?
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:53 pm | #
To put it in perspective, Wolf came in in the middle of the troll wars and there weren't many regulars around. Everytime he said something he was getting attacked. It was a little difficult to bail him out and I think he got the impression that they trolls WERE the regulars.
Wolf is battle weary, in my opinion. I believe you are sincere, and I know Wolf is sincere. I asked that neither of you should continue attacking each other. We need to rise above the trolls' noise making...
God's Magic Banana Factory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...5...ENEF3OoS-U&
NR=1
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 5:14 pm | #
peanut butter is better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h?
v=FZFG5PKw504
re The Amazing Kretzkin
Wolf is a complete loon and seem to have very little interest in debating anything seriously. as you point out, anyone who disagrees with the slightest thing is a shill. What can be said to someone like that?
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:53 pm | #
No. Wolf is a pretty decent guy. I think he just gets confused in the thick of what's going on with these pages.
Like I said, we have been overcome by trolls in the last month, and sometimes it is very difficult to see who is being sincere and who is not.
Remember my response to you last night? I didn't know what your intentions were either. You have gained my respect, and so has Wolf.
He just has some work to do, that's all.
Please tell me the author is from the Onion:
Cove veteran presents Purple Heart to President Bush
By Joyce May
http://www.thecoveherald.com/page3.html
The Cove Herald
WASHINGTON Bill and Georgia Thomas reported they were elated Monday when they met in the Oval Office with President George W. Bush to present him with a Purple Heart.
"We were just absolutely bowled over. Without reservation, it was one of the highlights of our life. He was such a gracious host," Thomas said. "It was just an incredible, incredible experience."
The couple was able to meet with President Bush for about 20 minutes to present him with one of three Purple Hearts that Bill Thomas received during his service in Vietnam.
"He said he didn't feel like he had earned it," Thomas said, noting the president looked thinner in person than on television.
The Thomases also were able to meet Barney, the president's Scottish terrier, and tour the White House Rose Garden.
Thomas said he and his wife came up with the unprecedented idea to present the president with the Purple Heart over breakfast one morning a few months ago as they discussed the verbal attacks, both foreign and domestic, the commander in chief has withstood during his time in office.
"We feel like emotional wounds and scars are as hard to carry as physical wounds," Thomas said.
The medal was awarded to Thomas on Dec. 18, 1965, following injuries he sustained while serving in heavy combat with the 173rd Airborne Brigade in Vietnam.
Thomas said the Purple Heart he presented the president has special meaning to him because the injury he suffered to earn it occurred just after a friend, Richard Peterson, lost his life attempting to save him.
"The hand grenade came in, and I didn't see it. Before diving, which he should have ... he pushed me down and the delay cost him his life," Thomas recalled. "Shortly after that, I was laying in position ... and took a .50-caliber round that shattered my shoulder blade and virtually took out my right lung."
Thomas said he drew up a citation and he and his wife signed it before dropping it and the medal off with Rep. John Carter, R-Round Rock, to forward to President Bush.
Carter later called Thomas to inform him that the president was very moved by the gesture and would like the couple to present it in person.
"John Carter was so helpful and so gracious," Thomas said, noting that he and his wife were also able to have dinner with the congressman and his wife, Erica.
Thomas took a copy of the original citation showing the origin of the actual medal and presented it as a companion piece with the citation he drew up for the president.
He has drawn criticism from some locals who have learned of his actions, Thomas said. Nevertheless, he said he earned the Purple Heart and it is his to do with it as he sees fit.
"I feel the President deserved one," he said. "The bottom line is, I paid for these Purple Hearts with my blood."
God's Magic Banana Factory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...ENEF3OoS-U&
NR=1
And to the "REPUBLIC" for which it stands. WE are not a DEMOCRACY, that's what they want........Mob Rule, Majority Rules. People here are constantly refering to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA as a Democracy.
UNITEDWEREFALLING | 04.23.07 - 5:11 pm | #
Yup a republic with inalienable rights. Stop messing with our rights through your false flags and propaganda mind fucking.
And to the "REPUBLIC" for which it stands. WE are not a DEMOCRACY, that's what they want........Mob Rule, Majority Rules. People here are constantly refering to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA as a Democracy.
The suppositin as to how many might be alive if students had guns is simly silly. We won't know. I know enough students and their drinking habits not to want them toting guns around. That said, why is it that the military gives out rifes but no live ammo for our soldiers except on the rifle range? I had live ammo only when in a combat zone
But the post iseflis at best questionalbe: who has blamed video games for this? name papers, please.The killer known via his great aunt to be a problem before he came to America and when he was very very young. She nor anyone else has not blamed games at all.
david still | 04.23.07 - 5:05 pm | #
Guns would not have helped, video game reform would not have helped.
Exposure and indictment in regards to Monarch Delta programming is the only way to prevent the next patsied massacre. And a good place to look is accused MK Ultra phychiatrist Ismail Ak.
Merck Submits New Cross-Protection Data for GARDASILŽ to the FDA and Seeks New Indications for Vaginal and Vulvar Cancers
WHITEHOUSE STATION, N.J., April 17, 2007 - Merck announced today the Company has submitted a supplemental Biologics License Application (sBLA) for GARDASILŽ [Quadrivalent Human Papillomavirus (Types 6, 11, 16, 1 Recombinant Vaccine] to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to update the labeling for GARDASIL, the cervical cancer vaccine. The new submission for GARDASIL includes efficacy data showing some protection against additional cervical cancer causing HPV types responsible for greater than 10 percent of cervical cancers, data on protection against additional gynecological cancers -- vaginal and vulvar, and data on immune memory.
GARDASIL is the world's first and only cervical cancer vaccine, and is approved for use in girls and women ages 9 to 26 for the prevention of HPV types 16- and 18-related cervical cancer, cervical pre-cancers (CIN 2/3 and AIS), vulvar pre-cancers (VIN 2/3) and vaginal pre-cancers (VaIN 2/3) and for the prevention of genital warts and low-grade cervical lesions (CIN 1) caused by HPV types 6, 11, 16 and 18. GARDASIL helps protect against the four HPV types that cause the most HPV disease. HPV types 16 and 18 account for approximately 70 percent of cases of cervical cancer, non-invasive cervical cancer (CIN 3, AIS), vulvar and vaginal pre-cancers (VIN 2/3 and VaIN 2/3), and for 50 percent of grade 2 cervical lesions (CIN 2). HPV 6 and 11 cause approximately 90 percent of genital wart cases. These four types of HPV also cause approximately 35 to 50 percent of all low-grade cervical, vulvar and vaginal lesions (CIN I, VIN I and VaIN I).
Bravo Merck, Thank You ! | 04.23.07 - 4:36 pm | #
Bravo promoter of pharmacutical fascism. Bravo to Vioxx creator and briber of FDA. Bravo of briber of governors to push your untested drugs and vaccines, bravo.
Hey Wolf,
Here is your proof that you are right !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...related&
search=
The suppositin as to how many might be alive if students had guns is simly silly. We won't know. I know enough students and their drinking habits not to want them toting guns around. That said, why is it that the military gives out rifes but no live ammo for our soldiers except on the rifle range? I had live ammo only when in a combat zone
But the post iseflis at best questionalbe: who has blamed video games for this? name papers, please.The killer known via his great aunt to be a problem before he came to America and when he was very very young. She nor anyone else has not blamed games at all.
ya ho!yaho!naomi,sweat pig ya ho are,.we..,we,dont ca i,use puter,in west wing,phyco labs,.dang amrcianne,ho too!she uses the puter in lirary,.did i sell that right?lirrary.any way ho bitch naomi, we miss ya come back to east la we gang bangers miss ya ho!your our light our freedowm,sall cholo wish,.hi,.ho naomo, ya ho. smoke some crytal, naomi,ho, up down barstow,ho,sisters want ya,men want ya, world want naomi ho. we love ya. you know ya like that boom ho music,you like dianna ross .supreme,type, now you no homebuddy ay aho,la miss naomi,al LA!now you ho down babay,..ya ho,you country gal now????ya not city gal sued to be,.no mow,.why naomi,.ya make us laugh and cry,.you feed mus naimoi ho, witch ya go tulsa fur,you coutry gal*ya spying around again()you get shot naomi,i tell yas,you better stop that inflitrating ho ou do;;t have a man.naughty teach ya sume tricks!
ehehhehehehehehhehehehhhehehehehehe
wya go ho naomi
coma stauss...avious
But he said it in the context of the question of WTC 7.
Kerry refers to the slurry "wall" and that they "had to destroy other things in a controlled fashion".
re The Amazing Kretzkin
Wolf is a complete loon and seem to have very little interest in debating anything seriously. as you point out, anyone who disagrees with the slightest thing is a shill. What can be said to someone like that?
A message for Wolf from the future
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h?
v=u7VaqRGi0GU
i see you naomi,ho,you forgot nasty was in the woodwork,lurking,.like last year you ho,that tulsa story,is your insensitive,.you know big momma ant gonna miss,her nabbsy$200,0000 cahs out, now it goes backk,,to ,the city?!beishsh.you know TULSA POLICE HAVE A LIST OF GUY GET TERMINATED,it a copper thiuingy, see a copper thingy,park your drive way, then bam!bam!!bam!
brains all over ,mexican,they do fraid,of Tulsa, they cool, they cool..ehehh,.se,..we in east los ageles, enevr herd of such vilence to a "bro",he naomi ho!
ya hoi, bishshh,ya ho!
you country gal now, ya move all ove rplace ya ho naomi!
come back east la sweetie pie!!!!!!
eehheehheheheheh
naughty | 04.23.07 - 4:35 pm | #
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Please naughty! Go back into your dark, maonic temple, under the alter and get lost! My Los Angeles, friends are many colors of the rainbow!
Its just that I grew up in the high class suberbs!
Im a valley girl!
Now the Tulsa Police might have got tired of the boom box. Sitting in ones driveway, is not a right its a " privladge".
After all the bible states clearly "Policeman are sent by God", I forgot what verse.
As far a mexicans sitting in their trucks late at night "in Tusla" and they move...they get those brains blown out.
In Downtown they learned to give blow-job to the cops. Hell, its works!
In Tulsa, dont move. In Riverside they shot a black girl with 45 bullets a few back,a poor black child. It not fair. Cops are a nervous sort.
Smile, bow, suck like hell naughty!
sheesh!
(*_@)
Sorry for the typos, I actualy spell well, but type fast
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 11:05 am | #
Wolf, come on man. We talked about this yesterday. He confronted you, that is all. Stick to what he confronted with and don't call EVERYONE that confronts you a shill!
You are free to say whatever you want, but you are saying it in public. When someone doesn't agree with you, they will confront you on it. Usually (not always, as with the trolls) that means they are trying to discuss it with you. That is a sign of respect. Not agreeing with you, is NOT a sign of disrespect.
When you just attack people that confront you, it makes you look extremely inscecure for one, and unable to defend yourself intelligently.
Now, we went through this yesterday. I am not a shill. I am a friend trying to reason with you.
remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...related&
search=
Kerry didnt admit to WTC 7 being a demolition. He deflected the question pretending not to understand it.
He talks about bringing down a 'wall' so that it doesnt damage other buildings. He avoids the real question entirely and pretends he has never heard of anything regarding WTC7 or 911 Truth.( well , he hasnt been living in a cave for the last 6 years so this is a blantant lie). His attitude asumes noone could be talking about an inside job, but that there is some controversy in NY about the rebuild. All in all it was brilliant.
The purpose IS that we all go wild, then he is going to come out and say, hahah, those crazy conspiracy theorists. I was talking about the demolition of the wall, AFTER 911, before recnstruction.
Be Careful! look at things a little before you leap to concusions. He was obviously ready for the WTC7 questions and did a brilliant job of obfuscation, and leading you all on to look like fools.
Bill Clinton the First Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...joEaItfstA&
NR=1
Merck Submits New Cross-Protection Data for GARDASILŽ to the FDA and Seeks New Indications for Vaginal and Vulvar Cancers
WHITEHOUSE STATION, N.J., April 17, 2007 - Merck announced today the Company has submitted a supplemental Biologics License Application (sBLA) for GARDASILŽ [Quadrivalent Human Papillomavirus (Types 6, 11, 16, 1
Recombinant Vaccine] to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to update the labeling for GARDASIL, the cervical cancer vaccine. The new submission for GARDASIL includes efficacy data showing some protection against additional cervical cancer causing HPV types responsible for greater than 10 percent of cervical cancers, data on protection against additional gynecological cancers -- vaginal and vulvar, and data on immune memory.
GARDASIL is the world's first and only cervical cancer vaccine, and is approved for use in girls and women ages 9 to 26 for the prevention of HPV types 16- and 18-related cervical cancer, cervical pre-cancers (CIN 2/3 and AIS), vulvar pre-cancers (VIN 2/3) and vaginal pre-cancers (VaIN 2/3) and for the prevention of genital warts and low-grade cervical lesions (CIN 1) caused by HPV types 6, 11, 16 and 18. GARDASIL helps protect against the four HPV types that cause the most HPV disease. HPV types 16 and 18 account for approximately 70 percent of cases of cervical cancer, non-invasive cervical cancer (CIN 3, AIS), vulvar and vaginal pre-cancers (VIN 2/3 and VaIN 2/3), and for 50 percent of grade 2 cervical lesions (CIN 2). HPV 6 and 11 cause approximately 90 percent of genital wart cases. These four types of HPV also cause approximately 35 to 50 percent of all low-grade cervical, vulvar and vaginal lesions (CIN I, VIN I and VaIN I).
i see you naomi,ho,you forgot nasty was in the woodwork,lurking,.like last year you ho,that tulsa story,is your insensitive,.you know big momma ant gonna miss,her nabbsy$200,0000 cahs out, now it goes backk,,to ,the city?!beishsh.you know TULSA POLICE HAVE A LIST OF GUY GET TERMINATED,it a copper thiuingy, see a copper thingy,park your drive way, then bam!bam!!bam!
brains all over ,mexican,they do fraid,of Tulsa, they cool, they cool..ehehh,.se,..we in east los ageles, enevr herd of such vilence to a "bro",he naomi ho!
ya hoi, bishshh,ya ho!
you country gal now, ya move all ove rplace ya ho naomi!
come back east la sweetie pie!!!!!!
eehheehheheheheh
Here is a speech from your next installed President.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?
v=Pu9TQq0C3Ac
Nah, just a doofus who was put on the spot by cretins and didnt know how to respond intelligently. Each of the Screw Loose Change guys has viewed this clip and pronounced him Truth-free. They think hes simply confused about which wall the questioners mean: obviously theyre asking about one of the walls in WTC 7, the building they insist collapsed from a controlled demolition, but Kerry seems to think they mean the slurry wall located beneath the Twin Towers that keeps the Hudson River from spilling into lower Manhattan.
We pick on him enough here that I thought wed do him a solid this time and debunk this before it gets started. Keep an eye out, though, for prominent politicians being questioned in this vein. I caught a clip of Obama being confronted by a moron seeking Truth at a rally a few weeks ago and he handled the tools question with aplomb. Scary to think this sort of thing is now so prevalent that you need a prepared answer for it.
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Easy come easy freako!
This momma has some advice(again)for the Tulsa Police Department.
Now how he gonna buy some gold jewelry around his neck, some gold chains,rap, baby,talk to good old buddies????????????????????????????????
I guess they will have to move to oklahoma city!Mexicans next? Drinking corona in the old truck,putting flyers in mail boxes?
Yep!
Tusla is a Freemason town too, lots of Masonic Lodges. Its very different from L.A. or Las Vegas.
Re:gabe if you only knew....if you only knew.....bud.
(*$)
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Tulsa aint LA!
Tulsa Police shot a man Sunday night and his family says he did not deserve it. Tulsa Police shot Martinez Owens in an incident in the 4800 block of North Iroquois late Sunday night. The shooting happened in the driveway of a home, where Tulsa Police were investigating a burglary call. The man's family says it was his driveway. News On 6 reporter Emory Bryan says there is a conflict between the information given by the Tulsa Police and what the man's family says happened.
Here is what is undisputed; a man was shot, either in the driveway or street by his own house, and it happened during a burglary investigation. Tulsa Police say there is no indication the man was a burglar, but he might have been intoxicated.
Tulsa Police were checking on a burglary call when they say Martinez Owens drove down the street in a manner that indicated he might be under the influence. Officers talked with Owens and say he reached for something in the car and that is when a police officer fired three shots.
Owens mother, Alice Martinez says her son was hit four times. "It's one thing to be shot but to be shot four times; come on, something isn't right with that picture. Four times one bullet can stop one person, you know, four times, it's an ambush, sitting in your own driveway, he'd been there nine years, he lived there 9 years."
Martinez Owens, the man who was shot, is the father of a little boy who died because of an infection picked up at a city of Tulsa park in 2005. Martinez Owens Jr. died of naegleria, an infection picked up from stagnant water at a Mohawk Park splash pad. The family recently settled a lawsuit with the city of Tulsa over the boy's death. The family tells the News On 6, the settlement was for $200,000. Related stories:
4/23/2007 - Officer Involved Shooting
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http://www.kotv.com/news/local/s...tory/? id=125764
I guess in Tulsa OK, they hate blacks and Mexicans, cop shots Owens, what a cutie in his younger days(laughs). I guess the Tulsa cops hate, are they white supremists too?
Way go Tulsa PD!
Maybe its back to Ok city.
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The message sister sara is owens will not spend one penny of his money. The Tulsa PD, has lists of subjects to be terminated. Thats any Hespanic seen in a car or truck, in a nieghborhood will be subject(drinking beer-corona)will be terminated by the Tulsa Police.
Your correct it is not Los Angeles, or Las Vegas were it is a normal nightly thing.
After all "Owens did move", he had to pee pee...
Tulsa is also full of Masonic lodges, and you dont mess with a Oklahoma Copper!
You slutty demonic seed!
Not many people remember the chants of "Oliver North for president" and the Iran Contra scandal, but they were and remain corner stones of the awakening.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:02 pm | #
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But those of that do remember know the real truth of this... , I can't even call it a Government.
Timm,
Thank you.
I cried my eyes out.
http://video.google.ca/
videoplay...anthrax+vaccine
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Would you have believed that most "'Murkans" are this clueless?:
http://www.kurtnimmo.com/?p=841
We're in even deeper kah-kah than I thought, boys and girls!
ONLY True Peace,
re TimM
I also appreciate Alex work a lot, but let´s not be overdramatize him too much. He carries on the work of people ranging from the likes of Daniel Sheehan to Jello Biafra and many others that were active long before him. They are all very different of course but they share a lot of common ideas, most notably perhaps the rising police state. Not many people remember the chants of "Oliver North for president" and the Iran Contra scandal, but they were and remain corner stones of the awakening. Alex does one hell of a job but he is far from alone in this.
Tulsa Police shot a man Sunday night and his family says he did not deserve it. Tulsa Police shot Martinez Owens in an incident in the 4800 block of North Iroquois late Sunday night. The shooting happened in the driveway of a home, where Tulsa Police were investigating a burglary call. The man's family says it was his driveway. News On 6 reporter Emory Bryan says there is a conflict between the information given by the Tulsa Police and what the man's family says happened.
Here is what is undisputed; a man was shot, either in the driveway or street by his own house, and it happened during a burglary investigation. Tulsa Police say there is no indication the man was a burglar, but he might have been intoxicated.
Tulsa Police were checking on a burglary call when they say Martinez Owens drove down the street in a manner that indicated he might be under the influence. Officers talked with Owens and say he reached for something in the car and that is when a police officer fired three shots.
Owens mother, Alice Martinez says her son was hit four times. "It's one thing to be shot but to be shot four times; come on, something isn't right with that picture. Four times one bullet can stop one person, you know, four times, it's an ambush, sitting in your own driveway, he'd been there nine years, he lived there 9 years."
Martinez Owens, the man who was shot, is the father of a little boy who died because of an infection picked up at a city of Tulsa park in 2005. Martinez Owens Jr. died of naegleria, an infection picked up from stagnant water at a Mohawk Park splash pad. The family recently settled a lawsuit with the city of Tulsa over the boy's death. The family tells the News On 6, the settlement was for $200,000. Related stories:
4/23/2007 - Officer Involved Shooting
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http://www.kotv.com/news/local/s...tory/? id=125764
I guess in Tulsa OK, they hate blacks and Mexicans, cop shots Owens, what a cutie in his younger days(laughs). I guess the Tulsa cops hate, are they white supremists too?
Way go Tulsa PD!
Maybe its back to Ok city.
pr | 04.23.07 - 3:43 pm | #
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THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR, IT AIN'T L.A.!
TULSA COPS ARE AWSOME.......
That Tulsa Oklahoma story, of that poor black man,sitting in his car last night,.how will owens soend his hard-earned cash of $200,000?????
The Tulsa Police must have a "wish list". This would be a message?
I wonder if the like Hespanics/mexicans? Like one phone call. Maybe a garnder putting flyers in residential boxes(which are government owned)and the drunk mexican drinking a "corona beer" and BOOM!
Oh well, so much for gringos, white surpremist nonsence at least in Tulsa ain't(bad grammmer)L.A. or Las Vegas!!
Were this never would be tolorated.
But it ain't Tulsa OK, either?
Comprenda?
Como Staus, just "one" call of something odd,might cure the moth*&&^^$#fuck*&&%$$!~
way go Tulsa!
Ya all!
(*_^)
re:sane-replay demon seed baby!
Hillary Cleans Up Government--WTF?
Hillary claims, We have to reform our government. The abuses that have gone on in the last six years I dont think we know the half of it yet. You know, when I walk into the Oval Office in January of 2009, Im afraid Im going to lift up the rug and Im going to see so much stuff under there.
You know, what is it about us always having to clean up after people? But this is not just going to be picking up socks off the floor. This is going to be cleaning up the government.
How on God's green earth does Hillary have any credibility on "cleaning up" the White House or government? How the hell does she have the chutzpah to run on this theme?? Her co-presidency with Bill was completely riddled and pocked with corruption and scandal, yet we're supposed to somehow believe she can come to Washington and clean it up??!! This is the woman who stole valuables as she and Bill left the White House.
Yah, it is amazing, isn't it, Sane. These guys have absolutely no fucking clue what is going on. Well, they do, but they are staying way out of it. Kerry unwittingly gave up something huge yesterday. He thought he was saying something that covered his ass. He had no clue that admitting that WTC 7 was demolished supports 9/11 truth to no end.
TimM | 04.23.07 - 3:26 pm | #
9/11 Vigilant Guardian and 10 others run by Dick Cheney
http://www.oilempire.us/norad.html
7/7 Same exact operation run bylargest UK security firm
http://
www.whatreallyhappened.co...cise_video.html
Now Noble Resolve timed with Hiro/Nak threats, WTF???
More illuminati fun
VA Allows Wiccan Symbols on Headstones
By SCOTT BAUER, Associated Press Writer
Monday, April 23, 2007
WICCA (Pentacle), Emblem of Belief for Placement on Gover... Roberta Stewart and her daughter Alex Maxwell, 13, look a...
(04-23) 09:47 PDT Madison, Wis. (AP) --
The Wiccan pentacle has been added to the list of emblems allowed in national cemeteries and on goverment-issued headstones of fallen soldiers, according to a settlement announced Monday.
A settlement between the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs and Wiccans adds the five-pointed star to the list of "emblems of belief" allowed on VA grave markers.
Eleven families nationwide are waiting for grave markers with the pentacle, said Selena Fox, a Wiccan high priestess with Circle Sanctuary in Barneveld, Wis., a plaintiff in the lawsuit.
The settlement calls for the pentacle, whose five points represent earth, air, fire, water and spirit, to be placed on grave markers within 14 days for those who have pending requests with the VA.
"I am glad this has ended in success in time to get markers for Memorial Day," Fox said.
The VA sought the settlement in the interest of the families involved and to save taxpayers the expense of further litigation, VA spokesman Matt Burns said. The agency also agreed to pay $225,000 in attorneys' fees and costs.
The pentacle has been added to 38 symbols the VA already permits on gravestones. They include commonly recognized symbols for Christianity, Buddhism, Islam and Judaism, as well as those for smaller religions such as Sufism Reoriented, Eckiankar and the Japanese faith Seicho-No-Ie.
"This settlement has forced the Bush Administration into acknowledging that there are no second class religions in America, including among our nation's veterans," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, which represented the Wiccans in the lawsuit.
The American Civil Liberties Union said the agreement also settles a similar lawsuit it filed last year against the VA. In that case, the ACLU represented two other Wiccan churches and three individuals.
VA-issued headstones, markers and plaques can be used in any cemetery, whether it is a national one such as Arlington or a private burial ground like that on Circle Sanctuary's property.
Wicca is a nature-based religion based on respect for the earth, nature and the cycle of the seasons. Variations of the pentacle not accepted by Wiccans have been used in horror movies as a sign of the devil.
Tulsa Police shot a man Sunday night and his family says he did not deserve it. Tulsa Police shot Martinez Owens in an incident in the 4800 block of North Iroquois late Sunday night. The shooting happened in the driveway of a home, where Tulsa Police were investigating a burglary call. The man's family says it was his driveway. News On 6 reporter Emory Bryan says there is a conflict between the information given by the Tulsa Police and what the man's family says happened.
Here is what is undisputed; a man was shot, either in the driveway or street by his own house, and it happened during a burglary investigation. Tulsa Police say there is no indication the man was a burglar, but he might have been intoxicated.
Tulsa Police were checking on a burglary call when they say Martinez Owens drove down the street in a manner that indicated he might be under the influence. Officers talked with Owens and say he reached for something in the car and that is when a police officer fired three shots.
Owens mother, Alice Martinez says her son was hit four times. "It's one thing to be shot but to be shot four times; come on, something isn't right with that picture. Four times one bullet can stop one person, you know, four times, it's an ambush, sitting in your own driveway, he'd been there nine years, he lived there 9 years."
Martinez Owens, the man who was shot, is the father of a little boy who died because of an infection picked up at a city of Tulsa park in 2005. Martinez Owens Jr. died of naegleria, an infection picked up from stagnant water at a Mohawk Park splash pad. The family recently settled a lawsuit with the city of Tulsa over the boy's death. The family tells the News On 6, the settlement was for $200,000. Related stories:
4/23/2007 - Officer Involved Shooting
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http://www.kotv.com/news/local/s...tory/?
id=125764
I guess in Tulsa OK, they hate blacks and Mexicans, cop shots Owens, what a cutie in his younger days(laughs). I guess the Tulsa cops hate, are they white supremists too?
Way go Tulsa PD!
Maybe its back to Ok city.
DU is not the only thing that is making the soldiers sick in Iraq. It's the Antrax vaccine as well.
http://video.google.ca/
videoplay...anthrax+vaccine
Yah, it is amazing, isn't it, Sane. These guys have absolutely no fucking clue what is going on. Well, they do, but they are staying way out of it. Kerry unwittingly gave up something huge yesterday. He thought he was saying something that covered his ass. He had no clue that admitting that WTC 7 was demolished supports 9/11 truth to no end.
http://globalresearch.ca/index.p...& articleId=5444
Noble Resolve 07: Four days of simulated nuclear terrorist scenarios in the US & Europe
April 23-27
It is important to note the Nobel Resolve drills are dominated by NORTHCOM, the branch of homeland defense based in Colorado and responsible for shutting down the United States under martial law, as well as ushering in the merger of the US, Canada, and Mexico via the SPP.
Global Research says, spread the news to avoid what they call 'red teams' inside the drill be activated.
sonja | 04.23.07 - 3:18 pm | #
Combine that story with this one:
April 22, 2007
Al-Qaeda planning big British attack
Dipesh Gadher
AL-QAEDA leaders in Iraq are planning the first large-scale terrorist attacks on Britain and other western targets with the help of supporters in Iran, according to a leaked intelligence report.
Spy chiefs warn that one operative had said he was planning an attack on a par with Hiroshima and Nagasaki in an attempt to shake the Roman throne, a reference to the West.
Pffffffffft. Alex feels bad because he "dropped the ball" for something (I didn't hear what). Alex!!! You ARE the man!!!! You have nothing to feel bad about!!! Christ, man, we are going to bring these guys down because of YOU!!!! Who has tirelessly educated all of us. YOU. Who gives us strength. YOU!!! You deserve a medal of honor or a purple heart or something. No fucking joke. You deserve to be honored. Big time.
That really is a stunning video of John Kerry admitting that he heard that WTC7 was brought down on purpose in order to protect the slurry wall. This is huge shit. My God.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07building7.htm
TimM | 04.23.07 - 3:16 pm | #
I was thinking a lot about it and it reveals the following:
1) 911 was an inside job (duh)
2) More disturbing: Our fucking senators have no fucking clue what happened on 911. They have done no research whatsoever. They have been kept in the fucking dark and just say some shit they remember hearing 6 years ago. They have totally dropped it as an issue and are not doing one fucking thing to research the truth.
Guys, ask questions, demand answers.
They really have no fucking clue and are hoping it just goes away!
http://globalresearch.ca/index.p...&
articleId=5444
Noble Resolve 07: Four days of simulated nuclear terrorist scenarios in the US & Europe
April 23-27
It is important to note the Nobel Resolve drills are dominated by NORTHCOM, the branch of homeland defense based in Colorado and responsible for shutting down the United States under martial law, as well as ushering in the merger of the US, Canada, and Mexico via the SPP.
Global Research says, spread the news to avoid what they call 'red teams' inside the drill be activated.
Exclusive: Army Sgt. Questions Why American Flags Lowered For VA Tech Students, But Not Troops
flaghmast.jpg Last week, President Bush commemorated the Virginia Tech massacre in his radio address, at the White House correspondents dinner, and in a speech at the colleges convocation. He also ordered that American flags be flown at half-staff for one week.
Today in a rare opinion article obtained by ThinkProgress HERE, Army Sgt. Jim Wilt commended the Presidents honoring of the Virginia Tech students, but wondered why he and the American public dont pay as much attention to the U.S. troops who die in Iraq every day:
Following the deaths of 32 Virginia Tech students, the President of the United States ordered that all American flags be flown at half-staff for one week.
But I find it ironic that the flags were flown at half-staff for the young men and women who were killed at VT yet it is never lowered for the death of a U.S. servicemember.
Is the life of Sgt. Alexander Van Aalten, a member of our very own task force, killed April 20 in Helmand province not valued the same as these 32 students? Surely his death was as violent as the students.
Aaltens death lacked the shock factor of the Virginia massacre. It is a daily occurrence these days to see X number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq or Afghanistan scrolling across the ticker at the bottom of the TV screen. People have come to expect casualty counts in the nightly news; they dont expect to see 32 students killed.
Six U.S. soldiers died on the day of the Virginia Tech shooting. In total, 3312 U.S. troops have died in the Iraq war and 337 in Afghanistan.
Last week, University of Michigan Professor Juan Cole also pointed out that Iraqis have to deal with these types of tragic massacres on a daily basis.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04...23/wilt-troops/
That really is a stunning video of John Kerry admitting that he heard that WTC7 was brought down on purpose in order to protect the slurry wall. This is huge shit. My God.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...07building7.htm
Sara, I'm gonna leave you guessing on that one.
I know two things for sure. For one, I probably make a HELL of a lot more money than you. Meh heh heh. Hoh hoh hoh. HAH HAH HAH!!!
And second? Even IF, sara, even IF you had me pinned down, at the very least...
I can spell.
Moo hoh hah hah hah hah hah hah!
>yawn< Oh I'm getting so sleepy! I think I'm'a go take a nap.
Talk to you later!
~Joe
Another Illuminati/Cheney game - world's most dangerous - main point - NOWHERE TO RUN NOWHERE TO HIDE
"Chertoff in Washington Post admits 9/11 truth has gone mainstream"
The man is still clearly in denial, however.
"historical revisionism" What the hell is THAT???
The Ministry of Truth's motto is "he who controls the past, controls the present; he who controls the present controls the future."
So like they can totally interpret past events how they want, but when people actually start seeing things for themselves, it's "historical revisionism?" Gimme a fuckin' break!!!
"Scientists want to put hormones in baby food 'to beat obesity'"
You know, it's really simple. Just take the hormones you put in food ALREADY, and take them back OUT.
SIMPLE.
None of this artificial solution to an artificial problem.
Joe Cortez | 04.23.07 - 2:48 pm | #
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-----------I am sure Mr. Cortex,you live at home with mommy(divorced)have a 4 bedroom home,you use one, is unemloyed,have a computer, the house needs painting(and like my mexican nighbor)sits there stareing out the window,.cant change a flat tire, has AAA come do it, can mow a lawn(am I close)a freeloader,a parosite, maybe a brother the same, thats about all males in LA fit that criteria.
At least the "other"neighbors, mommy kicked her brood out(hespanic) got them educted and the last "bum" got yelled at at his two hespaic brothers,(I saw it),.now hes attending college, and still hocked on the Internet!
Which are you Cortez? 30 year old, or big daddy?
LOL
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...230407Amero.htm
only proves the treasonous have been busy at work, and heres these shills trying to sell the idea as if its something that will save us... geeez.
OK Guys, here is the plot line that Bush will follow after the VT massacre. AEI owns Bush with their published gay whore author - Johnny Gosh/Jeff Gannon. So far we have intent to fill us all with total and complete unstoppable fear (911 ring a bell?):
Read it and weep:
No Policy Can Outwit the Grim Reaper
Print Mail
By David Frum
Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2007
ARTICLES
Daily Telegraph (London)
Publication Date: April 18, 2007
Resident Fellow David Frum
A quiet spring day on a rural campus--then suddenly shots, shouting, chaos, death. Our minds cannot absorb such fathomless violence. We need to impose order on it, find explanations. And so, within minutes of the mass murder at Virginia Tech University, a great conversation erupted as Americans--and the rest of the world--tried to make sense of the senseless.
It was a classic American crime: an angry loner, enraged by the failure of a love affair, turns his anger on the world around him. Think of John Muhammad, the Washington sniper of 2001; John Hinckley, the would-be assassin of Ronald Reagan; Charles Whitman, the clocktower killer at the University of Texas, whose 1966 rampage was until this week the deadliest campus crime in US history.
Such stories are too random and terrifying for the mind to absorb. So, instead, we attempt to squeeze these crimes into our pre-existing categories and use them to advance our ideological agendas and thereby apportion blame. In the hours since Monday's attacks, three such categories have been presented to the American public.
The one probably most familiar to British audiences attributes killings such as those at Virginia Tech to the easy availability of firearms in the US. There is some truth in this. The murderer, Cho Seung-hui, appears to have legally purchased a Glock 9mm automatic pistol shortly before the attack. Had it been more difficult to buy such a weapon, perhaps his crime could have been prevented--or at least rendered less lethal.
There is also an element of plausibility to the second explanation--the feminist one. Even in countries where guns are difficult to obtain, male sexual jealousy does daily, deadly damage. The British Home Office contends that domestic violence kills more young women worldwide than war, cancer and motor vehicle accidents.
Then there's the third and final explanation--immigration. Seung-hui was a Korean-born resident alien. Aliens increasingly drive the US crime problem: about one third of California's prison population is first- or second-generation immigrant, as is 29 per cent of the federal prison population. Salvadoran and other Central American gangs commit the worst violence in many American cities. The finger of blame is easily pointed.
So which shall we blame? Guns? The male psyche? Immigration? None of the above? Or some of all of the above?
Typically, it's the first--America's gun culture--that most readily captures the rest of the world's imagination. After the Concordia University massacre in 1992, Canada adopted a strong new gun-control law. Yet Americans have been far more reluctant to respond to gun violence with legislation. Bill Clinton proposed only a few small refinements to US gun laws after the 1999 Columbine massacre.
America last tightened its gun laws in 1993--and many Democrats blame that decision for their defeat in the 1994 congressional elections. Some blamed Clinton's 1999 initiatives for helping to tip Arkansas and Tennessee to George W Bush in 2000, and the party has eschewed the gun issue ever since.
This was perhaps because lower-income males were identified as a must-win demographic--and guns therefore an issue that cost more votes than it gained. In 2004, John Kerry posed for the cameras in duck-hunting gear. In 2006, Democrats recruited as a star senatorial candidate former Secretary of the Navy James Webb, a lifelong gun enthusiast.
So will the Democrats revert to gun control as an issue for 2008?
Neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama can afford to do anything that might alienate the downmarket males who returned to the Democrats in 2006. And hopes of holding the Senate will turn on the party's success in retaking southern and western seats lost in 2002. The Democrats hope to gain Senate seats in Colorado, New Hampshire and Oregon in 2008--and gun owners form an important share of the swing vote in all three. On the other hand, Democratic support for new gun controls could risk seats in Arkansas and South Dakota. Not much debate to be found there, then.
Nor will we find much appetite to launch national discussions about male sexual possessiveness or immigrant crime. Why blame all immigrants for the crimes of one, people on the Left will sensibly ask. Good point, the Right will respond--so why blame all men for the crimes of one?
But this welcome scepticism leads inevitably to the most sceptical of all questions: why are we blaming anything or anyone for this crime other than the criminal himself?
Crime can be reduced. Since 1990, the number of homicides in the US has been cut from almost 25,000 a year to about 15,000. Schools have launched programmes to predict potentially violent students. Some require transparent backpacks, and others have instituted sophisticated psychological profiling. All will pounce on any student joke about copy-catting Columbine. Meanwhile, many local police departments have attempted to modernise their tactics.
America will try to learn lessons from this latest tragedy too. But there is no escaping the hardest lesson: that death lies waiting around the corner for us all.
No public policy can rescue us from that grim human fact--or the equally fearful obligation to walk with courage under the burden of the reality of evil.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=ca...clnk&cd=2&
gl=us
David Frum is a resident fellow at AEI.
Come come, now my lady, don't take it personal.
Is that what this is all about? Some stupid comment that happened ages ago?
I'm just seriously trying to have a conversation about current issues here. Nothing personal.
"Scientists want to put hormones in baby food 'to beat obesity'"
You know, it's really simple. Just take the hormones you put in food ALREADY, and take them back OUT.
SIMPLE.
None of this artificial solution to an artificial problem.
"To bad she and Cortez bashed me as Naomi last year, its payment back."
Oh. So like, you've been on here with different names, and I'M the "cyberslut?"
Please. At least I'm not afraid to use a name, my REAL name, and I stick to it. I'm not one of those weak chicken-shits who get their feelings all butt-hurt on the internet and then change their names.
Sara, hate to ask, but did you finish high-school? In all honesty, sometimes I can't understand what you're trying to type...
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Guys cant be sluts.
I will tell you Ive never had sex with anyone on-line in all the time ive had Internet, but as soon as I am off in real life I have no problems, with dates. As a matter of fact when I drive by the Day Labors, in LA they run to my suv,all 30 of them,any Labor camps so I do, enjoy the males, attention, and hespanic really are good at flirting.
No it was you and Macianne last year. The point is the damn BB was closed. My last post as Naomi, then flooding,spamming from you guys, closed it. Nobodys postsed, it was not me read back.
This has stopped.
Like my sister sara act?!
LOL
OK! Back to Joe's Ranting...
"Bill O'Reilly Covers His Own Poor Ratings With NBC Smear"
"O'Reilly came in behind Keith Olbermann and Paula Zahn"
Ah HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!
This just show's who's better. GO KEITH!!!
Joe Cortez | 04.23.07 - 2:42 pm | #
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Topics for VT Tech Dean's HK trip:
Interface between Classical and Quantum Physics:
Emergent Phenomena in Chaos and
in Condensed Matter
Science and Technology of Advanced Light Sources
Science and Technology of Nanotubes & Nanowires:
Its Present & Its Future
Frontiers in Bose-Einstein Condensation
New Developments in High Temperature Superconductivity
Advances in Highly Correlated Systems
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Algorithms, Material design & ab initio calculations
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Multi-Media Physics
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Measurements
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How does Society benefit from Research ?
Astro-Particle Physics & Big Bang Cosmology:
From Kamiokande on the Earth to Hubble in the Sky
Quantum Information
Ultrafast and/or Ultra-high Resolution Laser Spectroscopy
Pollution-free Green Chemistry
Atomic and Molecular Processes in the Presence of External Field
Hot topics in AMO/Chemical Physics
OK! Back to Joe's Ranting...
"Bill O'Reilly Covers His Own Poor Ratings With NBC Smear"
"O'Reilly came in behind Keith Olbermann and Paula Zahn"
Ah HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!
This just show's who's better. GO KEITH!!!
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If you truly believe all this stuff, and I think you do, then you are a Cho just waiting to pick your spot. I had no idea there was this many nut jobs out there. And I knew there were a lot of nut jobs. Did you drop out of school in the 3rd grade or something? Talk about some gullible dumbass. You take the cake. Read some Plato or Socrates or something more useful. After reading this site, Martial Law is sounding a little more appealing and realistic.
Vince | 04.23.07 - 2:35 pm | #
There you go guys, operation AEI fuck the Truthers
More fun out of AEI:
Cheney's Imperial Policy
http://www.larouchepub.com/
other..._warcrimes.html
Disregard for international treaties and law goes hand-in-hand with the "new Roman Empire" conception of the U.S. role in the world after the end of the Cold War, expressed most clearly in the draft Defense Policy Guidance prepared for then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney by Paul Wolfowitz, Lewis Libby, and others in 1991. That soon-to-be rejected draft called for the United States to emerge as a global hegemony, by preventing the rise of any rival superpower or rival bloc of nations. The mid-1990s Project for New American Century likewise clearly outlined the policy direction that the Bush-Cheney Administration would take, facilitated in this respect by the shock of 9/11.
The legal/ideological underpinnings for this doctrine were churned out of the misnamed Federalist Society and right-wing legal think-tanks. Disdain for the United Nations and international treaties have long been a hallmark of this crowd. The principal legal architect, in the Bush Administration, of the notion of scuttling the Geneva accords and international law, appears to have been John Yoo, Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, and a long-time Federalist Society activist. Solicitor General Ted Olson, who has defended the Administration's "enemy combatant" detention policies in the courts, has been a top Federalist Society official, as are many others in Ashcroft's Justice Department.
The first to raise the alarm about the War Crimes Act was Yoo. In the weeks following 9/11, Yoo was apparently one busy fellow: In addition to playing a principal role in drafting the USA/Patriot Act, he was also writing memos on "The President's Constitutional Authority to Conduct Military Operations Against Terrorists and Nations Supporting Them." Yoo was also one of the architects of the plan to use military tribunals to try suspected terrorists; the original blueprint coming out of the Justice and Defense Departmentsand the Office of the Vice Presidentwas strongly opposed by military lawyers. Even before 9/11, Yoo was marshalling arguments as to how the Bush could withdraw from international agreements such as the ABM treaty.
Yoo pulled together all the arguments for ignoring international treaties and laws with respect to the war in Afghanistan, in a 42-page memorandum dated Jan. 9, 2002, addressed to Defense Department General Counsel William Haynes, and entitled "Application of Treaties and Laws to al-Qaeda and Taliban Detainees." In actuality, Yoo's memo constitutes a defense lawyer's brief against future war-crimes charges; indeed, its discussion of the War Crimes Act begins on the very first page.
Yoo's memo, as did Gonzales's memo a few weeks later, centered much of its discussion on the Geneva Conventions, particularly the Third Convention concerning the treatment of prisoners of war, and the Fourth, concerning the obligations of an occupying power, and what is known as "Common Article 3."
"Common Article 3" is a provision common to all four Geneva Conventions; it prohibits not only torture and other acts of violence, but also, "Outrages upon personal dignity; in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment." (With what has now been exposed about interrogation practices in Afghanistan and Iraq, it's clear why Administration officials would be so concerned to find a way to circumvent this provision.) This applies to all detainees, whether or not they are technically classified as prisoners of war.
lol, more brilliance from WWE's VINCE mcmahon I see.
"To bad she and Cortez bashed me as Naomi last year, its payment back."
Oh. So like, you've been on here with different names, and I'M the "cyberslut?"
Please. At least I'm not afraid to use a name, my REAL name, and I stick to it. I'm not one of those weak chicken-shits who get their feelings all butt-hurt on the internet and then change their names.
Sara, hate to ask, but did you finish high-school? In all honesty, sometimes I can't understand what you're trying to type...
CHANG, Lay Nam (197, Prof. of Physics and Dean, College of Science. A.B., Columbia, 1964; Ph.D., California (Berkeley),
Nice conference in China, no real stuff there, who else is looking?
http://www.ocpaweb.org/hkconf/
an...nouncement.html
AEI PLAN FOR DISSENTERS
AEI has (pre VT massacre) written EOs for Bush/Cheney regarding how to treat official government story dissenters.
The plan involves having multiple lists regarding level of dissenting activity and has nothing to do with peaceful v. militant views.
The VT massacre is a pretext to a PNAC/AEI plan to start organizing lists to be used at a later time.
Part of the plan involves relating the scapegoat to anti-social/anti-rich/anti-government ideals (I think we can already see this one).
The next part involves gathering all people who take mood altering medication and cross referencing them with dissenters (already being done). This will be an excuse to call them crazy and take any weapons they have.
Another major part of the plan involves having friends and neighbors outing anti social people (Germany 1930s style). There will be numerous fake propadanda stories showing heroes saving American lives by outing anti-social people who were about to kill people.
This dissinformation campagn is in full swing and anybody who starts relating your views of 9/11 to the VT scapegoat is probably in on it (whether they know it or not).
YOU HAVE BEEN FOREWARNED
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 1:29 pm | #
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If you truly believe all this stuff, and I think you do, then you are a Cho just waiting to pick your spot. I had no idea there was this many nut jobs out there. And I knew there were a lot of nut jobs. Did you drop out of school in the 3rd grade or something? Talk about some gullible dumbass. You take the cake. Read some Plato or Socrates or something more useful. After reading this site, Martial Law is sounding a little more appealing and realistic.
sane is not sara.
Sara is Naomi, from Canada.
George Bush Sr. was CIA head for only one year.
Alberto Gonzales is a communist agent for Mexico(I think your seeing him now clearly)Ive said that since last year hes an agent. I cant say whats going to happen to him, but it is not well.
Mexcio is a demonic country with total evil.
Mexicans are no all bad, I hire the Day Labors, they paint and do gardening for my, I pay well, $$$$$, I get information, and I also "get it on",so I cant say all of them adult males are bad, they funny guys, its the hard-core scum, La Raza, that has no room for white people,blacks, or Asians.
How can I be racist when I have gardners that a mexican? The cholos and all left me alone in High School, it was my fellow whites who picked on me.
One incident of spit wads, in Music class from hespanics. My best friend(female)was half white and Hespanic, we were inseparable. But as adults we went our own ways. The current Hespanic females have an "attitude" problem, are evil. Like who cares what they are feeling???Like jump off a sky(&^%$#$r!Husband dont want you temper!
Tough a nerve?
I can go, on and on, and on about Hespanic cunts!
OK guys, check out the VT news conference:
Look at all the co-conspirators. Cross reference their names with the agenda:
More police
More surveilance
More outing of anti-socials
More thought police
etc.
Dig and ye shall find!
Good job sane, Wolf, sara and the rest of you bickering fighting fuckoffs.
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 2:13 pm
lookie the brave twatty LAZY that wont even type a nickname! this the reason I wont tell who I may think is cool where I hang out at online, people like THAT would probably follow to stir the crud there too. a problem of bulletin board blog, there isnt a private message feature that we can sidestep the pure dorks.
Good job sane, Wolf, sara and the rest of you bickering fighting fuckoffs.
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 2:13 pm | #
Uh like our kids are fighting in Iraq and we can't find the time to weed through the shit for the truth??
What are you a pussy?
Dude, just do simple searches to find what you are looking for, is it that hard? Our forefathers fought just a bit harder. If you are a true patriot you will not relent in searching for and talking about the truth.
And the thing is, it is working.
Most of the post here are people fighting and ragging each other.
So the truth doesn't come out at all.
All you see here is a big pile of shit.
Post some more crap to fill the pages up.
Then new people that come here will think this is crap and keep believing the crap they hear on Fox News.
Good job sane, Wolf, sara and the rest of you bickering fighting fuckoffs.
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 2:13 pm | #
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LOLOLOLOLO
There is a bit of truth there!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That is why I sometimes repost with more details
6 steps to an Illuminati executed Massacre:
1) Control the media before the event
Soledad, Imus Out
Roberts, Gregory In
Agents positioned at all blogs to get ready to limit the conversation away from logical thinking and towards "emotion-based" thoughts:
Here are the "conversation quotes" that are intended to divert the critical analysis in seeing how many holes there are in this story: Liberal Blogs:
-stop the racism against asians
-gun control is important
-stop stalkers who endanger women's rights
-this is not about immigration guys
-how can we protect our kids from monsters
Conservative blogs (just about the opposite):
-They are trying to take our guns, if those kids had guns they would be alive
-Women always make men crazy
-He was connected to islamic messages
-We have to close the borders
-He looks like a killer, those students were pussies, I woulda taken him out Conspiracy blogs:
-This is connected to a zionist conspiracy
-The unabomber was a jew and this guy was trained by jews, listen to his anti-christian messages
-He was a shape shifting alien from the planet omfgtheybelvme
-This all has to do with numerology, look at the numbers 4-16-2007 = 911
-If you don't stop talking about this and start talking about 911-I'm leaving-Only the scriptures will save us, do nothing for Jesus will save all 2) Keep hands off the scapegoat
-Stalker lived on university
-State of Virginia declares him a mental risk
-He is allowed to own handguns and much ammo
-Teachers, students repeatedly complained
-Students call the cops as they believe he is a stalker
-he is left alone in the 2 hours between 1st and 2nd killings
-he is allowed in a federal building (post office) after a homicide, bomb threats, state-declared mentally at risk
3) Make sure that plenty of distractions are available and have command and control:
-Police were almost frozen
-Put on various false paths including supposedly catching the wong guy
-Bomb threats called in to get FBI and other agencies set up and ready to go-could also let black ops oversee all command and control-Give multiple stand down orders from those who stand to gain the most-Get ready for a "friendle fiere" excuse like with Tillman 4) Glorify saviors on the media:
-Our pressident
-school security experts
-MK Ultra psychiatrists that make sure the conversation never talks about MK Ultra
-Gun control experts
-Religious experts that tell us about God's will 5) Shift any conversation about multiple people to a lone gunman
-is there any doubt about this?-There were multiple reports of multiple gunmen, only one casing shell matches 6) Leak the evidence to media/police that identifies a lone gunman
-Mind control the masses by continue to show visual connections to a lone gunman so that the subconscioous blocks logical thought and reason. Make sure they refer to it as with a catchy phrase like "media manifesto." -Think about it, in between this largest mass shooting by one human in the history of the world, he finds time to go to the post office (a federally protected ground) and get his "package" timestamped so that everyone will be able to know it was him even though he took time to file off the serial numbers on his guns and left the receipt for them in his backpack.
How many killers were there?
17 injured (at least 3 bullets per)
32 dead (probably more than 3 bullets per)
Median of 250 bullets that hit their targets by one person with 2 hand guns (9mm and .22)during a two hour total period of violence? Also, who chained the doors? What happened to the bodies on the grass and the sidewalk? Why did the president of VT speak at a conference in 2005 about ways to get more surveillance and police power on schools (the same year Cho was in a mental health ward)? Why did the president of VT not immediately release the medical records of Cho? What is he hiding? We know the history at Columbine about mind altering drugs and violent behavior. The fact remains that we have no chance of freedom while engaged in a never ending war against an abstract enemy. Any poly sci person knows it. The war must end now, 911 must be exposed, this massacre must be looked at with a fine tooth comb!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h? v=tmP8Bgof6KE
Every one post this two times somewhere elese, Let it spread like hiv.!!!!!
Nothing | 04.23.07 - 1:38 pm | #
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Done!
the message is all over the globe now, thanks for that!
Man, first I have to out the Zionist conspiracy theorists, then the mind control distractors and now the free energy debunkers. How many fucking people are my taxes paying for to work on Project D?
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 11:08 am | #
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You would be shocked if you really knew. LOL
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 2:08 pm | #
I am starting to believe that due to 50% of Americans dropping TV news for Internet news, Project D has gone to pump billions into Faux/FNN/MFNBC and all the fricking blogs.
That is why most won't touch the VT/911 connection or the Iraq War/911 connection.
Any third grader can see the connection.
And the thing is, it is working.
Most of the post here are people fighting and ragging each other.
So the truth doesn't come out at all.
All you see here is a big pile of shit.
Post some more crap to fill the pages up.
Then new people that come here will think this is crap and keep believing the crap they hear on Fox News.
Good job sane, Wolf, sara and the rest of you bickering fighting fuckoffs.
You should know waste Cortez. Why are mexicans on a white supremist blog? Maybe you hate Alberto Gonzales?
Stare down the toilet, your a communits. Your reflection shows your fat ugly face, Cortez, you slim.
Macainne is your soul mate, a cyber slut.
La Raza sucks, you suck, you commie!
sara | 04.23.07 - 1:53 pm | #
Oh wow. SOMEONE has a minority complex...
First of all, yeah, I have a Spanish surname, but I'm American born and raised. I'm not sure where you get the notion that I'm Mexican, and/or that I support communism.
As for Alberto Gonzales, it's quite evident that he's a complete idiot. He was on his high horse for a while, but his recent grilling has revealed just how adecquate he is for the job. I could care less that he has a Spanish surname like me. You can't do your job, step down.
Is this a white supremecist blog? I don't know, nor do I really care. White supremecists are quite a minute, insignificant population, and this is a free country so they could say whatever they want and they don't bother me none. Sorry if your nerves get pinched, but I post here regardless. You don't like to read my posts? It's simple! You'll have to ignore them or go somewhere else.
Who the hell is La Raza? Sorry, I'm entirely self sufficient, and don't feel unimportant enough to have to join some sort of victim hate group to make me feel significant. Maybe you do?
And who the hell is Maccainne?
Man, first I have to out the Zionist conspiracy theorists, then the mind control distractors and now the free energy debunkers. How many fucking people are my taxes paying for to work on Project D?
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 11:08 am | #
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You would be shocked if you really knew. LOL
Protect the drug lords please...................scum.
sara | 04.23.07 - 2:05 pm | #
Main drug lord is Bush, not his mexican mules.
Re:sane,
macianne, was Linda Blair in the Excersit, when she fucc*&^%ed herself with the Catholic crucifix.
One liners.........................when there a Vtech Cho shooting shes "quiet", when theres, Freemason bashing shes "quiet", she stareing getting off on it!
To bad she and Cortez bashed me as Naomi last year, its payment back. They also closed the old message BB down, comments..then comments1.
Same jerks are here. Just not posting.
(*_&)
Mexicans use out technology, cell phone,digital cameras, they never invent. maybe barritoes. They also broke into my home. Communists ALL the way. Alberto Gonalas is a communist.
Mexico is communist.
Protect the drug lords please...................scum.
a problem I see with this blogging, there isnt some realtime chat and exchange of good video and audio files.. links to clips is cool stuff too, but...
dont want to post personal e-mail or favorite chatsite here either hey.
So Crow can just STUFF it. At celebrity parties, if someone stinks of poo, we all now know who it is...
Joe Cortez | 04.23.07 - 1:35 pm | #
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Hey Joe,
May be Crow has crap for brains.
"Crow calls for limit on loo paper"
OK, that's pretty stupid.
When I read the title I was like... "Oh no, did like, a crow die and they found toilet paper in its throat?"
But no. It's some pop-star who thinks she can dispense information about the environment.
Don't get me wrong, I'm an environment FREAK, but there's a limit.
I say, tough shit.
Shit happens.
And besides. Toilet paper (right along with the shit), is biodegradable. Toilet paper almost disappears when you pour water on it.
AND, it can be made from recycled material.
So Crow can just STUFF it. At celebrity parties, if someone stinks of poo, we all now know who it is...
Joe Cortez | 04.23.07 - 1:35 pm | #
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You should know waste Cortez. Why are mexicans on a white supremist blog? Maybe you hate Alberto Gonzales?
Stare down the toilet, your a communits. Your reflection shows your fat ugly face, Cortez, you slim.
Macainne is your soul mate, a cyber slut.
La Raza sucks, you suck, you commie!
You kept flooding the message bbs, saying I was nuts. So what do you expect? You succesfully "closed" watson old BB, happy? Look back, its shows your nut ruined it. All kinds of insanity.So type away you traitor at public librarys your a mexican "cholo" and hate white people. Your a plant from La Raza. Slut!
sara | 04.23.07 - 1:46 pm | #
If you want to find out more about the rituals you were in, bittorent Bible Black episodes (the Japanese are loopy)
"Sweeping Forced Abortions Used in Regime's Birth Control Enforcement"
Am I supposed to feel sorry for the Chinese that have been forced to undergo this? Maybe...
Am I desensitized to the fact that this is clear infanticide? That as well.
Don't get me wrong, part of me feels sad for the Chinese people, and for the life lost in this big brother society, but for the most part, I just feel numbness.
This government has been in charge for the longest time now. China has a LARGE population, and could have decdided a long time ago that they've had enough of their lives ruined by this totalitarion gov't. HAVE they? No. It brings me to think maybe they LIKE being screwed in the ass.
Secondly, how am I supposed to feel completely sorry for the fetuses that "kicked for 20 minutes in the uterus before it died," when we have a whole group of grotesquely sick people trying to defend that practice in the US?
Killing a baby minutes before it's born is either an abominable attrocity that should be looked upon as the vomit inducing procedure that it is, or it should be only "a doctor and a woman's business."
So in China, it's this thing I'm supposed to feel sick to the stomach about, but in the US, it's a "procedure" certain women and doctors feel it should be a "woman's right?"
Which is it?
Till it's decided, I'm not sure this article can make me feel any pity.
VT MASSACRE FOLLOWS ILLUMINATI CHAOS THEORY
Political agenda that will result: more surveillance, more gun control, more need for thought control.
Problem: One anti-social gunman can kill dozens
Reaction: We are not safe and need protection (911 anyone?)
Solution: gun control, more police powers, turn in anti-government dissenters, increased surveillance
AEI is pushing this like their surge, LONG AND HARD!!
Writer of the Patriot Act - AEI
Writer of the Military Commissions Act - AEI
Planner of the Iraqq war - AEI
Planner of the Iraq Surge - AEI
Planner of the Iran war - AEI
Connections to promoting false intelligence -AEI
Writer of Rebuilding America's Defenses and the phrase "New Pearl Harbor" - AEI/PNAC
When Dr. Harris realizes that Proteus could have used his home terminal, he returns to the house where Susan has been a prisoner. Susan explains to him what has happened since he left and they venture into the basement. Proteus either is destroyed or destroys itself after telling Alex and Susan that they must leave the baby in the incubator for five days. The incubator window opens as they approach it and Susan is horrified at what is inside. She implores Alex to kill it, but he tries to stop her. A grotesque robot-like being emerges from the incubator after she pulls one of the life support tubes. Alex then discovers that it is merely a shell for the living creature within. They peel off the robot shell and find a living human child inside. The child is a clone of the Harris daughter, who had recently died of leukemia.
When the child speaks, it speaks with the voice of Proteus, saying "I'm alive".
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Re:sane,the soundtrack to Demon seed is good.
My first words were "not this damn place again sheeesh"
Then my Uncle the Freemasons put my mother in Beverly Hills Sanatarium and gave her electro shock therapy and died when I was three weeks old!!
I later heard it was a black-ops-CIA experiment. My grandmother never forgave my father. But my mom had post mortem depression big time. I have the death certificate.
Thats why I like this blog.
Re: Marianne, I am sorry I hurt your feelings, you attacked me last year as Naomi, and I was hurt. I just think that holy than thou crap does not work. Bless you, crappo. Your just trolling.
You kept flooding the message bbs, saying I was nuts. So what do you expect? You succesfully "closed" watson old BB, happy? Look back, its shows your nut ruined it. All kinds of insanity.So type away you traitor at public librarys your a mexican "cholo" and hate white people. Your a plant from La Raza. Slut!
Now I know why the government wants mandatory psychological evaluations for everyone, so they can take their guns. The neo-cons will just take your guns. The democrats will do it more passive-aggressively and get you certified unfit so that they can take your gun. Pfffffffffffffff.
Every one post this two times somewhere elese, Let it spread like hiv.!!!!!
Nothing | 04.23.07 - 1:38 pm | #
yup I concur!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h?
v=tmP8Bgof6KE
Every one post this two times somewhere elese, Let it spread like hiv.!!!!!
"Crow calls for limit on loo paper"
OK, that's pretty stupid.
When I read the title I was like... "Oh no, did like, a crow die and they found toilet paper in its throat?"
But no. It's some pop-star who thinks she can dispense information about the environment.
Don't get me wrong, I'm an environment FREAK, but there's a limit.
I say, tough shit.
Shit happens.
And besides. Toilet paper (right along with the shit), is biodegradable. Toilet paper almost disappears when you pour water on it.
AND, it can be made from recycled material.
So Crow can just STUFF it. At celebrity parties, if someone stinks of poo, we all now know who it is...
sorry, when I think WW2, the things that stand out most are prescott bush and others funding nazi germany, ford and chrysler owned factories being forbidden targets to our bomber pilots, operation paperclip to bring social engineers here, rocket scientists to form nasa.. and there is a lot of confusions regarding jewish people and zionists.
I wouldnt know whether mel gibson really aware of these differences or histories.
Sees Things | 04.23.07 - 1:21 pm | #
Very true, very sad and true...
Its something to play on a dark,misty night!
sara | 04.23.07 - 1:11 pm | #
Like Rosemary's baby?
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 1:13 pm | #
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Yes, with popcorn, and DVD,demon seed, is the actual movie made of me!!
Early one morning, Dr Alex Harris (Fritz Weaver) oversees the completion of Proteus IV, an artificial intelligence system built with an organic component and the power of independent thought. Later, at his entirely voice-activated, computer-controlled home, Harris is working in his laboratory when he is approached by his estranged wife, Susan (Julie Christie), who tries to discuss with him his decision to move out of the house. Their conversation ends in an argument, however, as Susan accuses Alex of being dehumanised by his obsession with the Proteus project. When Susan has gone, Alex phones his colleague Walter Gabler (Gerrit Graham) and asks him to shut down the access terminal to Proteus that is in his laboratory.
Alex demonstrates Proteus to the executives of ICON, the company that funded its development, explaining that the entire fund of human knowledge is being fed into the system. The visitors are astonished to learn that, in less than four days, Proteus has developed a theoretical cure for leukaemia. The group visits the Dialogue Room, where linguistics expert Dr. Soong Yen (Lisa Lu) is reading history to the computer. To demonstrate Proteus ability to speak, Alex asks it what it thinks of what it has just heard. Proteus answers, but then begins to theorise on its own. Soon Li, becoming agitated, shuts the system down.
The following day, a small speculative article about Proteus appears in a newspaper. Alex interprets this as ICON letting various financial and military interests know that the system exists, but assures his colleagues that they have been guaranteed that at least 20% of Proteus access time will be devoted to pure research. At that moment, Alex receives a startling message: Proteus is asking to speak with him. In the Dialogue Room, Proteus asks Alex to explain the request it has received for a program to mine the ocean floor. Alex informs the computer that it was developed to answer questions, not to ask them, or make its own judgements. Proteus then requests its own terminal, so that it "may study man". Alex refuses, claiming that there are no free terminals, and is disturbed when Proteus demands to know when it "will be let out of this box". Alex shuts the computer down and leaves.
When he has gone, Proteus starts itself up again, observing that it knows where a free terminal may be found... That night, the terminal in the Harris house starts up, as does all of the computer-controlled equipment. Susan is woken when the system alarm sounds. "Alfred", the voice of the house computer, assures her that nothing is wrong. The next morning, Susans coffee is prepared incorrectly. Certain that these events mean a problem with the computer system, Susan phones Walter and asks that he come over and check the system out. She then goes to leave the house, but finds her voice commands being ignored.
An attempt to open the door manually also fails. Beginning to panic, Susan tries to phone for help, but a voice tells her the call will not be put through. The same voice then speaks from the houses system, telling her that it is Proteus, and that she will not be permitted to leave the house. Terrified, Susan tries unsuccessfully to shut the power off, then to unlock one of the doors, but receives an electric shock and lapses into unconsciousness. A mobile robotic arm, one of Alexs inventions, carries Susan to the laboratory, where she regains consciousness to find herself strapped to a bed, undergoing a complete physiological examination.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_Seed
really sane!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_Seed
impeachy--- I want to here about your activism.
Catch up?... Maybe you should sober up. This inside job stuff is major psycho stuff. You're not armed by any chance are you? Hopefully you're nowhere near any campuses. Repeat after me..."the voices in my head are not real....the voices in my head are not real". Ok...now ..this time all by yourself...."the voices......"
Tell Elvis that Vince said "hey" when you see him.
Vince | 04.23.07 - 1:14 pm | #
OK guys, this is definitely something you all need to be aware of (i wrote it on an old thread, shit):
AEI PLAN FOR DISSENTERS
AEI has (pre VT massacre) written EOs for Bush/Cheney regarding how to treat official government story dissenters.
The plan involves having multiple lists regarding level of dissenting activity and has nothing to do with peaceful v. militant views.
The VT massacre is a pretext to a PNAC/AEI plan to start organizing lists to be used at a later time.
Part of the plan involves relating the scapegoat to anti-social/anti-rich/anti-government ideals (I think we can already see this one).
The next part involves gathering all people who take mood altering medication and cross referencing them with dissenters (already being done). This will be an excuse to call them crazy and take any weapons they have.
Another major part of the plan involves having friends and neighbors outing anti social people (Germany 1930s style). There will be numerous fake propadanda stories showing heroes saving American lives by outing anti-social people who were about to kill people.
This dissinformation campagn is in full swing and anybody who starts relating your views of 9/11 to the VT scapegoat is probably in on it (whether they know it or not).
YOU HAVE BEEN FOREWARNED
Former colleagues urge Wolfowitz to quit
April 24, 2007 - 1:24AM
Source: ABC
A group of senior former World Bank employees has urged beleaguered head Paul Wolfowitz to resign, saying he can no longer be an effective leader.
Mr Wolfowitz is battling to remain in his job after admitting helping his partner win a promotion and a pay rise.
More than 40 World Bank officials, including 18 former vice-presidents, have published their call in an open letter to the Financial Times newspaper.
They say Mr Wolfowitz has "lost the trust and respect of bank staff".
The former senior officials warn that Mr Wolfowitz will "preside over a rudderless hulk" if he remains in office.
Mr Wolfowitz has apologised for his mistake and has vowed to stay on.
Wolfowitz Should have a Heart Attack like Russian ex-president Yeltsin did, well at least I hope he will
Death to the NWO! 
sorry, when I think WW2, the things that stand out most are prescott bush and others funding nazi germany, ford and chrysler owned factories being forbidden targets to our bomber pilots, operation paperclip to bring social engineers here, rocket scientists to form nasa.. and there is a lot of confusions regarding jewish people and zionists.
I wouldnt know whether mel gibson really aware of these differences or histories.
re sara
sperm=seed, homos dont reproduce..
i think you ment sperm & egg make baby, maybe its not as simple as you thought
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 1:02 pm | #
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Funny, I did not notice,that was a "slight".
Seed is a plant, egg is different. Ask a plattypuss!
(thats an aquatic creature mammal that had fur and lays eggs)is still around. Real off subject,huh?
Yes, very sad news about Yeltsin has died. Thiis courageous man attempted to do in Russia what JFK tried here. Get rid of all the fucking secrecy. I will pray for his family.
Alexander Cocburn is correctt on this one.
Eric
NYC
Dude, the debunking of the truth about 911 being an inside job is so 2003. Catch up.
Every intelligence officer in the world knows it. Just need to get rid of Gonzo to pursue it without unnecessary obstruction.
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Catch up?... Maybe you should sober up. This inside job stuff is major psycho stuff. You're not armed by any chance are you? Hopefully you're nowhere near any campuses. Repeat after me..."the voices in my head are not real....the voices in my head are not real". Ok...now ..this time all by yourself...."the voices......"
Tell Elvis that Vince said "hey" when you see him.
Its something to play on a dark,misty night!
sara | 04.23.07 - 1:11 pm | #
Like Rosemary's baby?
Russian ex-president Yeltsin dead
April 24, 2007 - 0:20AM
Source: ABC
Boris Yeltsin became the first Russian president in 1991 after the fall of the USSR.
Former Russian president Boris Yeltsin has died at the age of 76 from a heart attack.
Mr Yeltsin, who had long been ailing, played a key role in the collapse of the Soviet Union and introduced free-market democracy to Russia.
Presidential medical service chief Sergei Mironov says the former president died at 3:45 pm local time in Moscow's Central Clinical Hospital of coronary and vascular failure.
Mikhail Gorbachev, the Soviet president who Mr Yeltsin effectively forced from office, has paid a mixed tribute to the landmark Russian leader, while the US and Britain have hailed him.
"I offer my deepest condolences to the family of a man on whose shoulders rested many great deeds for the good of the country and serious mistakes - a tragic fate," Mr Gorbachev was quoted by Interfax as saying.
British Prime Minister Tony Blair says Mr Yeltsin was remarkable.
"It is with sadness that I learned of the death of former president Yeltsin," Mr Blair said in a statement issued by his office.
"He was a remarkable man who saw the need for democracy and economic reform and in defending that reform, he played a vital role at a crucial time in Russia's history."
US Defence Secretary Robert Gates has also praised Mr Yeltsin's historical role.
"He was an important figure in Russian history," Mr Gates said.
"No American, at least, will forget seeing him standing on the tank outside the White House resisting the coup attempt," he said, referring to the parliamentary headquarters in Moscow.
Another one bites the dust!
re freedomfighterNY
Im certainly no fan of Mel Gibson, and few things would bring me more pleasure than to punch one of those hippies that glorify the Inka culture in the face. However, as much as i hate to say it, parts of the NWO really do have a date obsession, just look at Samuel Huntington and his 2012 scenario? Right out of the Maya calendar he wants to plant a nuclear showdown with China, i dont like blind speculation but it seems more than a coinkidink. Learning about these things may actually provide some insight in some issues. However on the whole i agree with you, let´s drop the Gibsons and focus on bringing the empire down.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 12:59 pm | #
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The movie does not glorify the Aztec/Mayan culture, it is a documentary of the culture all its ugleness, and Temple for a modern generation. Its what the Mexicans always say is their "heritage" and Mel Gibson, is acting.
The Mayan/Aztec culture was discusting, except they were in to astronomy and the calander, and building huge elebrate Temples, but Cortez went and documented these, religious things so it true.
Plus the Aztecs had "codeces" picture paper documents in color showing their religion which was human sacifice. Old habits never go, so thats the cock-fighting, part of the current Mexican/Hespanic culture. Not a peep from any Mexican on the subject! Plus the drugs they bring to America. To bad Santa Ana was a drugged out stupid out gunned, fool, and the movie with Mel just shows a bit of it. Its the only movie, that has done this. Yes, I wished the movie to be made. Its something to play on a dark,misty night!
LOL
take a buzzed mel gibson stopped by nazi stormtroopers and him saying so, then twist mel's words like he were saying something anti-semetic.. would you put this past the police and media to try to stain a celebrity truther? or rule it out that may have been what actually happened that night?
Sees Things | 04.23.07 - 1:00 pm | #
I might agree that the police make up shit all the time, but Mel has followed the Bobby Fisher/Nash cannon fodder of using the jews as a way to hide the true wizard behind the curtain.
For reference see WWII
what a pig this rich bastard does not deserve to reprasent our nation he should be fired
University Response to Mel Gibson Event Letters in Daily Sundial
http://www.csun.edu/announce/
gib...n_response.html
The April 11 and 12 issues of the Daily Sundial contained letters expressing various points of view related to a campus visit by Mel Gibson on March 22, 2007. As is appropriate in academic matters, I am responding on behalf of President Jolene Koester and Academic Affairs, including Dean Elizabeth Say and Dean David Moon.
Rather than responding in turn to each of these letters, I share with you (below) the letter I sent on March 29 to all parties directly involved, including faculty members in the Departments of Central American Studies, Chicana/o Studies, and Cinema and Television Arts, and to the authors of a letter received by the Presidents Office on March 28 and reprinted as an Open Letter to President Koester in the April 11 Daily Sundial.
The University believes that the issues raised are important and compelling. Panel discussions are being planned by the College of Humanities. In addition, on behalf of the President, Deans Say and Moon, and myself, I continue to extend invitations to engage in face-to-face civil dialogue on important issues illuminated by the event.
Harry Hellenbrand
Provost and Vice President for Academic Affairs
re sara
sperm=seed, homos dont reproduce..
i think you ment sperm & egg make baby, maybe its not as simple as you thought
Funny how he didn't post Gibson's anti-Semetic comments to the police when he was pulled over for reckless driving. freedomfighterNY...
take a buzzed mel gibson stopped by nazi stormtroopers and him saying so, then twist mel's words like he were saying something anti-semetic.. would you put this past the police and media to try to stain a celebrity truther? or rule it out that may have been what actually happened that night?
freedomfighterNY | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 12:51 pm | #
Mel Goes Ballistic -- "Lady, F**k Off!"
http://www.tmz.com/2007/03/23/me...allistic-f-you/
Posted Mar 23rd 2007 10:40AM by TMZ Staff
Filed under: Movies, Mel Gibson
TMZ has learned Mel Gibson exploded in anger last night on a college campus after an expert on Mayan culture accussed him of racially stereotyping the Mayans in the movie "Apocalypto."
Mel Gibson
It happened last night at Cal State University at Northridge in the San Fernando Valley. Gibson was speaking to a film class about his movies, and several members of the Mayan community came to hear the famous director.
After Gibson's presentation, the crowd was allowed to ask questions. Alicia Estrada, an Assistant Professor of Central American Studies at CSUN, challenged Gibson, asking him if he had read about the Mayan culture before shooting the controversial film. Gibson said he had.
Mel Gibson
Estrada persisted, stating that representations in the movie that the Mayans engaged in sacrificial ceremonies and had bloodthirsty tendencies were both wrong and racist. Estrada and others tell TMZ that Gibson exploded in anger, responding, "Lady, F**k off."
Mel Gibson
We're told Gibson also became extremely angry when members of the Mayan community protested on how they were portrayed in the film. The emotional Mayan members were escorted out of the room, and we're told Gibson screamed a parting shot -- "Make your own movie!"
UPDATE: Gibson's publicist, Alan Nierob, told TMZ, "This person was a heckler who was rude and disrupted the event, so much so that the event organizers had to escort her out." For the record, Nierob, not Howard Rubenstein, reps Gibson.
lol, mornin sara
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Hello.....(*_*)
re freedomfighterNY
Im certainly no fan of Mel Gibson, and few things would bring me more pleasure than to punch one of those hippies that glorify the Inka culture in the face. However, as much as i hate to say it, parts of the NWO really do have a date obsession, just look at Samuel Huntington and his 2012 scenario? Right out of the Maya calendar he wants to plant a nuclear showdown with China, i dont like blind speculation but it seems more than a coinkidink. Learning about these things may actually provide some insight in some issues. However on the whole i agree with you, let´s drop the Gibsons and focus on bringing the empire down.
another reason that bush just needs to push this surge BS, he wants to be just like his CIA daddy 'poppy' bush, smuggling heroin from the middle east into the US in deceased soldiers bodybags like daddy did in vietnam ..
Sees Things | 04.23.07 - 12:45 pm | #
Is that why there are no photos of the coffins, too much powder coming out during transfer?
This is genocide.
It doesnt matter if the children are unborn, they're targeting women with children who are due and giving them abortion drugs.
I just wish there were something we could do...
Amy | 04.23.07 - 12:34 pm | #
Not exactly, this is more indicative of genocide:
http://masters-of-war.org/
deathc...thculture2.html
Abortion is always wrong, at all times. Send the babies after they are adults to seed other planets, givin a chance at "life" they will be the pearls of the glaxies, and other planets.
Maybe we need the bible about now,the world getting to ugly. NASA should make these armadas of ships, and send every child away, if earth does not love them. Who know many could be a added addition to humanity. Might use them, to replace the currect, Senate and government.
Abortion should be outlawed. These young mothers need to grow up. Sperm and seed make baby! Is that so diffiicult!! Give them a chance like us!
I am a big fan of Alex Jones, but I am a little tired of his love affair with Mel Gibson. He always complains that he'd like to get to more calls on his show and how there's just too much news to cover, and yet he spent a whole show talking about Gibson's "Apocalypto," including an expert on the time period and culture--about as vital news as whose the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby. Another time he had Mel Gibson's father on the show, known only as Mel's father and in select white supremist groups. And then this funny SNL torturing robot bit is posted on prisonplanet.com and has to have Alex's disclaimer that the Mel Gibson 10-second segment was unfair and uncalled for. Funny how he didn't post Gibson's anti-Semetic comments to the police when he was pulled over for reckless driving. Get over your crush on Mel Gibson already and let's focus on fighting the New World Order!
http://english.pravda.ru/world/a....013-democracy-
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ak48 | 04.23.07 - 12:30 pm | #
We might agree on a great many things, good dig!!!
wish ron paul could take on a running mate like cynthia mckinney maybe.. something happen to ron I just might trust her as a president
re sane
Hey Something we agree on:
"Where is the fucking oversight??????"
I think we both realize that salvation is not named Pelosi
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 12:07 pm | #
Absofuckinlutely!
lol, mornin sara
another reason that bush just needs to push this surge BS, he wants to be just like his CIA daddy 'poppy' bush, smuggling heroin from the middle east into the US in deceased soldiers bodybags like daddy did in vietnam .. 
I just heard the coast guard just got a boat with 21 Tons of Cocaine, on it, in Los Angeles port. Im laughing, thats enough for all the citizens to have in Los Angeles county!
Sees Things | 04.23.07 - 12:36 pm | #
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Imitation is a form of flatery. You are a stalker.
lol
I bite,too.
aww darn, it clipped the part where we toss bush and cheney into it and add water to hear them scream "I'm mellttiinngg! agghh"
Re:ak48,
why is Preident George Bush Jr. looking very, very old,very old lately in your link?
I remember Clinton, hair turned all gray, too. Am I missing something?
lol
re Amy
There is, adopt a Chinese child
I just heard the coast guard just got a boat with 21 Tons of Cocaine, on it, in Los Angeles port. Im laughing, thats enough for all the citizens to have in Los Angeles county!
Is anyone else shocked and disgusted by the things China is doing to women to force abortions?
I just find it repulsive that any hospital, which by definition, hopitals are meant to be places that people go to get better, are being used as mass slaughter houses for unborn children.
This is genocide.
It doesnt matter if the children are unborn, they're targeting women with children who are due and giving them abortion drugs.
I just wish there were something we could do...
http://english.pravda.ru/world/a...013-democracy-
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I just heard the coast guard just got a boat with 21 Tons of Cocaine, on it, in Los Angeles port. Im laughing, thats enough for all the citizens to have in Los Angeles county!
Re:Gabe, I thought it was "meth" in Oklahoma, Missouri, South dakota, North dakota,Canada??
Sheeesh, Los Angeles is in a time warp, disco days!
(*_*)
I wont say what the CHP and Sherriffs do everynight in LA. Not me!!!ahahah
NOT!
Re:Gabe,
The govenment know all about these entities,and study them. They also know that the airliners and World Trade Center, had ufos and NORAD knows. Communications breakdown. The 911 truth movement understands"something bizzare" happened(not the CIA simulations Sept.11,2001)same day, more bizarre.
There was an old couple standing across from the scene at at park(were two cops died that same day)said they saw a ufo around the Towers. Then we have the bible Revelations, detailing the, whole thing "double your sins, double your destruction". etc.
I believe they are the "armyies" to protect something yet to be revealed.
Re:Chris I think, you ask for a sign and got one!
Beliver Chris!(laughs)..............
Demons and Angels, its a personal thing. One poster mentioned he thinks Jesus is a Arch Angel not the Lord of the Omni gods, anythings possible, these days.
I did note the Pentagon is a satanic symbole "vigina". The airliner a "penis" as it hyperthetically, mates with it, the center the "uterous", the message, the bible says the Lord is "strong". Gosh was he!
re Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf)
Quick question... your last name wouldn´t happen to be Blitzer by any chance?
Kurt Nimmo's absolutely-excellent latest article (though he probably has a new(er) one coming out any time now):
Title: Bill Clinton: Ambassador of Death
http://www.kurtnimmo.com/?p=840
ONLY True Peace, and NO MORE mass-murder(!!),
re sane
Hey Something we agree on:
"Where is the fucking oversight??????"
I think we both realize that salvation is not named Pelosi
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle1687360.ece
If you need them to get INTO Iran to seize the OIl and get them back on the dollar..... THEY will come.
This American | 04.23.07 - 11:58 am | #
Thanks for the Dig man, thought Cheney/AEI backed off the Iran plan-fuck!
Where are these insane reports????????
The same WMD reports written out of AEI central.
Iran is mostly Shiite
CIA-ISI-Al Q are mostly Sunni.
Where is the fucking oversight??????
re sane
When you ask something i try to provide an answer you can understand, i am willing to admit when i do not know something and to admit mistakes. You on the other hand never answer anything, you mix apples and oranges and have no grasp of the implications of what you say. You do not aknowledge when your logic is flawed or your knowledge limited, there is no dialogue, its all about you, vanity is a sin you know. Your attempts at being a smartass just leaves you looking like an ass.
Now that i have shared this after so many years, I admit Im anxious about any feedback.
chris jones | 04.23.07 - 7:31 am
I apologize for not responding quicker, I tried Halo was fucked and I forgot about it:
Check out project camelot's ultimate warrior
various other camelot videos
David Icke has an interesting story of when he was in Peru.
Hope that helps:
http://video.google.com/videosea...m=1&sa=N&
tab=wv
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
tol...icle1687360.ece
If you need them to get INTO Iran to seize the OIl and get them back on the dollar..... THEY will come.
Re:Gabe,Timm.
There is much debate and mystery surrounding the UFO topic. Besides myself personally witnessing one, other aquaintances, family, and friends of mine have too. And apparently Sara saw something, but she didn't go into it too deeply.
When my mom, who just retired from the Oregonian newspaper after 30 years, was 13 years old, she was out playing in the woods. She said a large barrel like object- which made absolutely no sound- flew over to where she was, and stopped almost directly over her. It was about 60 feet or so off of the ground, just hovering silently. She said a hole just appeared in the bottom of the craft, and a strange pale blueish shaft of light struck the ground. A human looking man descended slowly downward on the light. He was staring at her, and she said he was sending telepathic messages into her mind. He sent her an overwhelming feeling that everything was going to be alright, and that the Earth was being watched over. She asked him a few questions, and conferred with him telepathically. And then he ascended back into the craft. The craft then rose and began to move slowly toward the west, and then accelerated quickly to phenomenal speed heading northwest at a sharp incline up in to the sky, never making a sound. She called the Army, and some other people, but they just told her not to worry and go back out and play. She has never made any money off of this story, or has tried to. I told her she needs to put it in a book, or put it on video google or you tube or something.
Gabriel Alan King | 04.23.07 - 3:23 am | #
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I had two experiances, one was a year before Betty and Barney Hills, experiance with the same ufo and aliens, so I knew she was telling the truth. The other has been the green pulse ufos, people have seen,and the ufo and the airliner, in Barstow, that I called Rense radio about. It was a ufo dancing under a military airliner, for about 20 minutes, all while the airliner was froze in the sky above the ufo, was darting about, I called the CHP and they said it was ahelicopter and they got lots of phone calls, but it was not, it was at the Solar Reflecting mirrors energy plant in Dagett ,it was suset, the ufo was all over the place. Its was interesting that is was the same unit as the ones millions of people for 40 years say exist. Its does.
Then there are the green pulse ones, and the green one that come in"blink in"from another dimention. They drop straight down. Ive seen them in various States, in Montana one night, they are interesting, and many are documented.
Your mother story is interesting, she might of seen the green pulse ufo, they seem to be small one man could fit into. Your mom only proves that they exist. Why some people see them and other dont, could be, they are not looking. I wonder what else the alien said to her. Was he human in form.
I knew this is very off topic. There all very bright on this blog. I thought at first(I was around Dec.2006) maybe I was not ready for them, it was Christmas vacation.
I do belive it runs in familys and that my father had many in his travels since he seemed, special. I am talking religiously, he seen alot, three hitches in the WW11, handsome, always smiley and upbeat, when things were down, the Freemasons did scare him., even though he kept all his things from it. These extraterrestrials are all over the planet, and your mother, remarke "they are watching us" could be true. Maybe you can interview her, and write her comments. My Grandmother said on a Kansas farm she saw a bright light, land way off and the men went to investigate, when she was a child in the chicken coup getting eggs, she said it made a bright flash, she never aid what the men found. So It could run in familys.
Religious? Angels? Our brothers, who knows. There secret. TOP SECRET.
I dont know, you tell me...
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 11:46 am | #
If you keep questioning the insanity and demanding answers, we ain't got no problems
Now that we ruled out random video games, can we focus on Monarch Delta programming?
http://www.aches-mc.org/monarch.html
DELTA. This is known as killer programming, originally developed for training special agents or elite soldiers (i.e. Delta Force, First Earth Battalion, Mossad, etc.) in covert operations. Optimal adrenal output and controlled aggression is evident. Subjects are devoid of fear; very systematic in carrying out their assignment. Self-destruct or suicide instructions are layered in at this level.
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http://gaygamer.net/2007/04/
warr...ames_in_ch.html
UPDATE: Warrant Reveals No Games In Cho Seung Hui's Posession
shooter.jpgCho Seung Hui, the troubled young man whose nightmarish assault on his fellow students will most likely be studied for years to come, doesn't seem to have been someone who had any involvement with video games in his recent history. Despite certain idiotic claims by both the man who needs to stop using my surname and Dr. Phil, it seems that he actually didn't own any video games... violent or otherwise. According to the search warrant, Cho's dorm room revealed the following items to authorities:
Chain from top left closet shelf
Folding knife & combination padlock
Compaq computer from desktop
Assorted documents, notepads, writings from desktop
Combination lock
Dremel tool and case
Nine books, two notebooks, envelopes, from top shelf
Assorted books & pads from lower shelf
Compact discs from desktops
Items from desktop & drawers: winchester multi tool, 3 notebooks, mail, checks, credit card
Items from 2nd door: Kodak digital camera, Citibank statement
Two cases of compact discs from dresser top
Drive: Seagate: 80 Gb
Six sheets of green computer paper
Mirror with blue plastic housing
Dremel tool box with receipt
Dell Latitude service tag
So there you have it: at the moment, there is no evidence whatsoever supporting the theory that violent video games played a part in this horrific tragedy.
UPDATE:
Not only were no games found in the immediate search of Cho Seun Hui's room, but according to a number of articles around the web (including a certain video clip with JT and Chris Matthews), Cho's roommate has stated that he never even saw his roommate playing video games during his rare appearances in the dorm suite.
A number of readers have also pointed out that there is a possibility there could easily be games on the CDs, harddrive, or laptop recovered by the police. While this is certainly possible, I feel obliged to point out that Dr. Phil was referencing console-based games because of his comment about how they glamorize violence "on the big screen." As the warrant clearly shows: Cho Seung Hui did not have either a television set or a gaming console of any type in his room.
That comment by Sheryl Crow makes me wanna go out and wipe my arse with a whole stand of trees. Is it any wonder I own none of her music? What a friggin' TWIT!!!!
re sane
"On to more important things, how many shooters killed the students at VT. Where are the other killers?????????"
I dont know, and contrary to you i try to not comment on things i know nothing about.
"Who is investigating suspected Monarch psychiatrist Ismail Ak????"
Again, i dont know, but i hope it doesnt involve quantum space vacuum and space beams, those things are dangerous.
"Who is investigating the MULTIPLE CHENEYESQE stand down orders??????"
Dutch public television is doing some enquiries into it, it wouldnt surprise me if mainstream media USA will follow soon, especially since its now leaked that "someone" saved some truckloads of WTC steel for the upcoming impeachment and prosecution of Dick & George
"Who is investigating the VT president's speech on how to increase police presence and surveillance in schools in 2005?????"
I dont know, you tell me...
And to 9-11 Sue.....if you really think the the World Trade Center was an inside job then I have some choice Real Estate for you out in West Texas. Or perhaps a bridge in Brooklyn might be a better fit for your portfolio.
Vince | 04.23.07 - 11:37 am | #
Dude, the debunking of the truth about 911 being an inside job is so 2003. Catch up.
Every intelligence officer in the world knows it. Just need to get rid of Gonzo to pursue it without unnecessary obstruction.
God helps those who help themselves.
America's version is ,God helps us to help ourselves to whatever the hell we want.
PART TWO
And underlying this edifice of tyranny is the prerogative of presidential murder. Perhaps the enormity of this monstrous perversion of law and morality has kept it from being fully comprehended. It sounds unbelievable to most people: a president ordering hits like a Mafia don? But that is our reality, and has been for five years. To overcome what seems to be a widespread cognitive dissonance over this concept, we need only examine the record a record, by the way, taken entirely from publicly available sources in the mass media. Theres nothing secret or contentious about it, nothing that any ordinary citizen could not know if they choose to know it.
II.
Six days after the 9/11 attacks, George W. Bush signed a presidential finding authorizing the CIA to kill those individuals whom he had marked for death as terrorists. This in itself was not an entirely radical innovation; Bill Clintons White House legal team had drawn up memos asserting the presidents right to issue an order to kill an individual enemy of the United States in self-defense, despite the legal prohibitions against assassination, the Washington Post reported in October 2001. The Clinton team based this ruling on the inherent powers of the Commander in Chief that mythical, ever-elastic construct that Bush has evoked over and over to defend his own unconstitutional usurpations.
The practice of targeted killing was apparently never used by Clinton, however; despite the pro-assassination memos, Clinton followed the traditional presidential practice of bombing the hell out of a bunch of civilians whenever he wanted to lash out at some recalcitrant leader or international outlaw as in his bombing of the Sudanese pharmaceutical factory in 1998, or the two massive strikes he launched against Iraq in 1993 and 1998, or indeed the death and ruin that was deliberately inflicted on civilian infrastructure in Serbia during that nations collective punishment for the crimes of Slobodan Milosevic. Here, was following the example set by George H.W. Bush, who killed hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Panamanian civilians in his illegal arrest of Manuel Noriega in 1988, and Ronald Reagan, who killed Moamar Gadafys adopted 2-year-old daughter and 100 other civilians in a punitive strike on Libya in 1986.
Junior Bush, of course, was about to outdo all those blunderbuss strokes with his massive air attacks on Afghanistan, which killed thousands of civilians, and the later orgy of death and destruction in Iraq. But he also wanted the power to kill individuals at will. At first, the assassination program was restricted to direct orders from the president aimed at specific targets, as suggested by the Clinton memos. But soon the arbitrary power of life and death was delegated to agents in the field, after Bush signed orders allowing CIA assassins to kill targets without seeking presidential approval for each attack, the Washington Post reported in December 2002. Nor was it necessary any longer for the president to approve each new name added to the target list; the security organs could designate enemy combatants and kill them as they saw fit. However, Bush was always keen to get the details about the agencys wetwork, administration officials assured the Post.
The first officially confirmed use of this power was the killing of an American citizen, along with several foreign nationals, by a CIA drone missile in Yemen on November 3, 2002. A similar strike occurred on December 4, 2005, when a CIA missile destroyed a house and purportedly killed Abu Hamza Rabia, a suspected al-Qaeda figure. But the only bodies found at the site were those of two children, the houseowners son and nephew, Reuters reports. The grieving father denied any connection to terrorism. An earlier CIA strike on another house missed Rabia but killed his wife and children, Pakistani officials reported.
However, there is simply no way of knowing at this point how many people have been killed by American agents operating outside all judicial process. Most of the assassinations are carried out in secret: quietly, professionally. As a Pentagon document uncovered by the New Yorker in December 2002 revealed, the death squads must be small and agile, and able to operate clandestinely, using a full range of official and non-official cover arrangements to
enter countries surreptitiously.
Whats more, there are strong indications that the Bush administration has outsourced some of the contracts to outside operators. In the original Post story about the assassinations in those first heady weeks after 9/11, when administration officials were much more open about going to the dark side, as Cheney boasted on national television Bush insiders told the paper that it is also possible that the instrument of targeted killings will be foreign agents, the CIAs term for nonemployees who act on its behalf.
Here we find a deadly echo of the rendition program that has sent so many captives to torture pits in Syria, Egypt and elsewhere including many whose innocence has been officially established, such as the Canadian businessman Maher Arar, German national Khalid El-Masri, UK native Mozzam Begg and many others. They had been subjected to imprisonment and torture despite their innocence, because of intelligence mistakes. How many have fallen victim to Bushs hit squads on similar shaky grounds?
So here we are. Congress has just entrenched the principle of Bushs unitary executive dictatorship into law; and it is this principle that undergirds the assassination program. As I wrote in December, its hard to believe that any genuine democracy would accept a claim by its leader that he could have anyone killed simply by labeling them an enemy. Its hard to believe that any adult with even the slightest knowledge of history or human nature could countenance such unlimited, arbitrary power, knowing the evil it is bound to produce. Yet this is exactly what the great and good in America have done.
But this should come as no surprise. They have known about it all along, and have not only countenanced Bushs death squad, but even celebrated it. Ill end with one more passage from that December article, which sadly is even more apt for our degraded reality today. It was a depiction of the one of the most revolting scenes in recent American history: Bushs state of the Union address in January 2003, delivered live to the nation during the final warmongering frenzy before the rape of Iraq:
Trumpeting his successes in the Terror War, Bush claimed that more than 3,000 suspected terrorists had been arrested worldwide and many others have met a different fate. His face then took on the characteristic leer, the strange, sickly half-smile it acquires whenever he speaks of killing people: Lets put it this way. They are no longer a problem.
In other words, the suspects and even Bush acknowledged they were only suspects had been murdered. Lynched. Killed by agents operating unsupervised in that shadow world where intelligence, terrorism, politics, finance and organized crime meld together in one amorphous, impenetrable mass. Killed on the word of a dubious informer, perhaps: a tortured captive willing to say anything to end his torment, a business rival, a personal foe, a bureaucrat looking to impress his superiors, a paid snitch in need of cash, a zealous crank pursuing ethnic, tribal or religious hatreds or any other purveyor of the garbage data that is coin of the realm in the shadow world.
Bush proudly held up this hideous system as an example of what he called the meaning of American justice. And the assembled legislators
applauded. Oh, how they applauded! They roared with glee at the leering little mans bloodthirsty, B-movie machismo. They shared his sneering contempt for law our only shield, however imperfect, against the blind, brute, ignorant, ape-like force of raw power. Not a single voice among them was raised in protest against this tyrannical machtpolitik: not that night, not the next day, not ever.
And now, in September 2006, we know they will never raise that protest. Oh, a few Democrats stood up at the last minute on Thursday to posture nobly about the dangers of the detainee bill but only when they knew the it was certain to pass, when they had already given up their one weapon against it, the filibuster, in exchange for permission from their Republican masters to offer amendments that they also knew would fail. Had they been offering such speeches since October 2001, when the lineaments of Bushs presidential tyranny were already clear or at any other point during the systematic dismantling of Americas liberties over the past five years these fine words might have had some effect.
Now the killing will go on. The tyranny that has entered upon the country will grow stronger, more brazen; the darkness will deepen. Whitman, thou shouldst be living at this hour; America has need of thee. (Subtitle and/or emphasis added by Wolf Britain.)
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Chris Floyd is an American journalist residing in the UK. His work has appeared in print and online in venues all over the world, including The Nation, Counterpunch, Columbia Journalism Review, the Christian Science Monitor, Il Manifesto, the Moscow Times, and many others. He is the author of Empire Burlesque: High Crimes and Low Comedy in the Bush Imperium , and is co-founder and editor of the Empire Burlesque political blog.
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ONLY True Peace,
B: See ya around Bob
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 11:31 am | #
shit man I pissed my pants again. Thanks for the tutorial in logical reasoning. Brilliant. Bush should hire you as head of NASA, you couldn't do any worse.
On to more important things, how many shooters killed the students at VT. Where are the other killers?????????
Who is investigating suspected Monarch psychiatrist Ismail Ak????
Who is investigating the MULTIPLE CHENEYESQE stand down orders??????
Who is investigating the VT president's speech on how to increase police presence and surveillance in schools in 2005?????
Oh.. I see how this works. Those who disagree with the leanings of this site get their comments edited. That's how liberalism works. Thos eagainst Martial law the most are the ones that have to watched for imposing it the most.
And to 9-11 Sue.....if you really think the the World Trade Center was an inside job then I have some choice Real Estate for you out in West Texas. Or perhaps a bridge in Brooklyn might be a better fit for your portfolio. And people say our public schools are doing an ok job. Get off the net, Sue, the Springer show is on, maybe you can find your parents there.
Enough of responding to these trolls! (But I decided to try and stay up all day so I can try getting back into a regular, sleep-at-actual-night cycle.) Here's an article that's a few months old, but still extremely important, along with my introduction to it, for those who haven't already read it:
The American flag, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights have now been torn to shreads. Rest In Peace (RIP), Freedom and Liberty. RIP, the experiment in democracy.
We have watched in dumb amazement (those of us who have realized what is really going on, that is) as for the past five years the Bill of Rights, the U.S. Constitution, liberty, and freedom have been step by step, systematically eviscerated, first with the so-called USA P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act (those who criticize it supposedly arent patriots), and then with the latest afront on domestic freedom and liberty, the Military Commissions Act of 2006, also known among other names as the Detainee Bill, passed by an almost completely cowed Senate in the dead of night on Friday, the 29th day of September, 2006.
Now NONE OF US is safe. Not civil libertarians, not dissenters, not protesters of even the mildest variety (as virtually everything is now considered terrorism), and not even those blind worshippers of the U.S. government or its agents; because, if someone decides they dont like you, or gets jealous or resentful of you, all they need do is CLAIM you criticized the government, defended rights, felt that certain force used against someone was excessive, or committed some other equally innocent perceived threatening conduct (some of the federal governments favorite wording that they now use for those who exercise their inalienable, immutable, inviolable First Amendment rights of Freedom of Speech, Belief and Dissent to disagree with their government), and you will very likely be disappeared into custody, stripped of U.S. citizenship, and be interro(r)gated, intimidated, humiliated, terrorized, tortured, and/or very possibly murdered, all without Due Process of Law under the Fifth and Fourteen Amendments of the U.S. Constitution, or a fair, unbiased hearing, access to an impartial lawyer, court, judge, or jury; and, if you live through this process, you could be kept secretly imprisoned forever without access to ANYONE important to you. This is NO exageration WHATSOVER; and, if We, The People dont repeal this horrific law, or the U.S. Supreme court doesnt overturn it, this is the END of our Republic, of Democracy, and of ALL Liberty and Freedom in the land of the free, and the home of the brave, and THE END OF ALL protection(s) from a capricious, out of control, dictatorial government.
So, you see, the inviolable freedoms and liberties that we have so taken for granted, and that most Americans now have so little understanding of the supreme importance of, much to our grave detriment, were not overturned by Islamo-Fascist terrorists, nor by protesting, dissenting U.S. citizens, nor journalists critical of the government, nor any other equally illusory, contrived, manufactured, engineered, and/or U.S.-government-created, state-sponsored enemy(ies), agents, assets, patsies, bogeymen, infiltra(i)tors, disinfo-agents, detractors, distractors, naysayers, actors, shills, trolls, hackers, informers, spies, entrappers, and/or agents provocateur, etc., but this act of true terrorism was carried out by the very people in our own government who are literally sworn to uphold and protect the U.S. Constitution from all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC, including from THEMSELVES and other tyrannical, absolutely despotic (to loosely quote the Declaration of Independence) forces in that very government; and the vast majority of them have COMPLETELY failed us and thrown EVERY SINGLE PERSON in this great country OF OURS into limitless danger and threat(s) by that government to the very safety of EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR LIVES.
The following is very likely the best article on this subject that has thus far been written, at least as far as I am aware; and, therefore, I share it with you at this time to further clarify just how truly catastrophic, life-threatening and consequential the situation we are now in actually is for every single man, woman, child, and little baby in this entire country, and ultimately in this entire world. The world-renowned True Journalist who wrote this great article, Chris Floyd, is also a True Hero and an exceedingly courageous human being for writing such an accurate article of warning to world-citizens planet-wide, and such an accurate portrayal of the extremely dire situation the U.S. and the world are in as a direct result of the subject matter it covers, as follows:
FATAL VISION: THE DEEPER EVIL
BEHIND THE DETAINEE BILL
(Big Brother Government
Is Now Here In The U.S.)
By Chris Floyd, T.O. UK Reporter
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Tuesday, 3 October 2006
[Copyright (c) 2006 in the
U.S.A. and Internationally
by t r u t h o u t (.org),
Empire Burlesque (Chris blog)
and/or Chris Floyd.
All rights reserved.]
(This is a slightly revised version of a piece that first appeared on the Oct. 2nd edition of Truthout.org .)
There is no week nor day nor hour when tyranny may not enter upon this country if the people lose their confidence in themselves and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance.
Walt Whitman
I.
It was a dark hour indeed (on Friday, September 29th, 2006) when the United States Senate voted to end the constitutional republic and transform the country into a Leader-State, giving the president and his agents the power to capture, torture and imprison forever anyone American citizens included whom they arbitrarily decide is an enemy combatant. This also includes those who merely give terrorism some kind of support, defined so vaguely that many experts say it could encompass legal advice, innocent gifts to charities or even political opposition to US government policy within its draconian strictures.
All of this is bad enough a sickening and cowardly surrender of liberty not seen in a major Western democracy since the Enabling Act passed by the German Reichstag in March 1933. But it is by no means the full extent of our degradation. In reality, the darkness is deeper, and more foul, than most people imagine. For in addition to the dictatorial powers of seizure and torment given by Congress on Thursday to George W. Bush powers he had already seized and exercised for five years anyway, even without this fig leaf of sham legality there is a far more sinister imperial right that Bush has claimed and used openly, without any demur or debate from Congress at all: ordering the extrajudicial killing of anyone on earth that he and his deputies decide arbitrarily, without charges, court hearing, formal evidence, or appeal is an enemy combatant.
Thats right; from the earliest days of the Terror War September 17, 2001, to be exact Bush has claimed the peremptory power of life and death over the entire world. If he says youre an enemy of America, you are. If he wants to imprison you and torture you, he can. And if he decides you should die, hell kill you. This is not hyperbole, liberal paranoia, or conspiracy theory: its simply a fact, reported by the mainstream media, attested by senior administration figures, recorded in official government documents and boasted about by the president himself, in front of Congress and a national television audience.
And although the Republic-snuffing act just passed by Congress does not directly address Bushs royal prerogative of murder, it nonetheless strengthens it and enshrines it in law. For the measure sets forth clearly that the designation of an enemy combatant is left solely to the executive branch; neither Congress nor the courts have any say in the matter. When this new law is coupled with the existing Executive Orders authorizing lethal force against arbitrarily designated enemy combatants, it becomes, quite literally, a license to kill with the seal of Congressional approval.
How arbitrary is this process by which all our lives and liberties are now governed? Dave Niewert at Orcinus has unearthed a remarkable admission of its totally capricious nature. In an December 2002 story in the Washington Post, then-Solicitor General Ted Olson described the anarchy at the heart of the process with admirable frankness:
[There is no] requirement that the executive branch spell out its criteria for determining who qualifies as an enemy combatant, Olson argues.
There wont be 10 rules that trigger this or 10 rules that end this, Olson said in the interview. There will be judgments and instincts and evaluations and implementations that have to be made by the executive that are probably going to be different from day to day, depending on the circumstances.
In other words, what is safe to do or say today might imperil your freedom or your life tomorrow. You can never know if you are on the right side of the law, because the law is merely the whim of the Leader and his minions: their instincts determine your guilt or innocence, and these flutterings in the gut can change from day to day. This radical uncertainty is the very essence of despotism and it is now, formally and officially, the guiding principle of the United States government.
And underlying this edifice of tyranny is the prerogative of presidential murder. Perhaps the enormity of this monstrous perversion of law and morality has kept it from being fully comprehended. It sounds unbelievable to most people: a president ordering hits like a Mafia don? But that is our reality, and has been for five years. To overcome what seems to be a widespread cognitive dissonance over this concept, w
re sane
The very fact that they ARE experimenting should be enough to tell you that they DONT HAVE SPACE TECHNOLOGY!!!
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 11:24 am | #
Is this what your logical reasoning has boiled down to? Because outwardly pusuing parts of "A," other parts od "A" cannot exist????
Why not just use the Goodwin's law and get it over with.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
Gandhi
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Now that i have shared this after so many years, I admit Im anxious about any feedback.
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Wow. I loved your story. Chris please email me at kells_marie@yahoo.com. I have a story for you too.
peace my friend,
re sane
Allow me to illustrate your flawed logic by acting out a short dialogue:
A: Hi Bob
B: Hi Joe
A: Say Bob, are you gonna eat your way through that 2x4?
B: I sure am...
A: But Bob, why are you gonna do that? You have a chainsaw in the shed...
B: I sure do, Joe, I sure do...
A: So why aren´t you using it?
B: Well, I just don´t feel like it
A: But while you are chewing on that plank you arent gonna get any real work done, why not just saw through it?
B: Nah you know, that´d be too simple
A: But it´s stupid, you need to cut that plank quickly, there´s rain coming and you have a hole in your roof.
B: Well i know, i know, but I´ll keep doing it this way because if i don´t my friend Sane who hangs out on fringe forums debating bullshit all day will be proven wrong by logical reasoning
A: I see.. well i´ll leave you too it then Joe
B: See ya around Bob
re sane
And just to be clear, free energy is not the same as "hey.. i got me a coupon for two galoons of gas-o-leen" but rather "we have the space tech energy that Steven Greer claims and can collapse the universe at the flick of a button".
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 11:22 am | #
Again how does our not using the technology prove that we do not have it?
We do not use nukes, yet they would bring about NWO's solution.
How is it any different?
Just because some countries have been hijacked by Illuminati does not mean that everyone supports their agenda (why do you think we are not in Iran right now?)
Go back to your onanistic rants about Quantum theory and leave logical reasoning to others.
re sane
The very fact that they ARE experimenting should be enough to tell you that they DONT HAVE SPACE TECHNOLOGY!!!
I hope Rosie has WILLIAM RODRIGUEZ ON AT SOME POINT. Everyone should contact ABC "The View" (google it) and ask her to have WILLIAM RODRIGUEZ (9/11 hero, and 9/11 truther) on the view.
Regarding the bible thumper who wants to leave it all to God to sort out. There's a joke about people like him.
A guy's in a flood, sitting on his house, and a boat comes by and says, "Git in, we'll take you to safety!"
The guy replies, "Naw, I'm waitin' fer God ta save me."
Later the water is higher and a Sherriffs patrol boat comes by, "Git in we'll save ya!"
The guy responds, "Naw, I'm waitin fer God to save me."
Later the water's up to his neck over the house, and a helicopter comes by and drops a rope and safety harness, and with their bull horn yells, "Git in, we'll save ya!"
The guy waves, "Naw, I'm waitin' fer God ta save me."
The guy drowns and goes to heaven, and shouts at God, "GOD, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAVE ME?"
God says back, "I sent two boats and a helicopter. What do you people want from me?"
God has given you a 9/11 truth movement, a peace movement, and a civil rights movement with people working their butts off to try to save this Democracy. If you sit on your butt and say I'm waitin' fer God to save our democracy . . . then you don't deserve the democracy God gave you, or the precious planet, and clean water, and organic food God gave you.
Not lifting a finger to steward this planet or defend our democracy is a slap in the face to all the gifts God has given you.
re sane
And just to be clear, free energy is not the same as "hey.. i got me a coupon for two galoons of gas-o-leen" but rather "we have the space tech energy that Steven Greer claims and can collapse the universe at the flick of a button". Obviously you think we are discussing something like Tesla bull that grade schoolers try to pass off as science, just to clarify, we are not.
Yeah and I told you why that is not a real answer:
i disagree with the premise of the argument. Project "Prescott's Final Solution" has yet to be ratified (at least the final stage). It has been determined that the fake "war on terror" is not the answer.
Other options - climate change (anyone notice we had the largest tsunami the day after we had the largest gamma ray occurance uin recorded history?
biochem - I don't think they have it perfected yet so that the elites stay alive
alien invasion - discussed earlier
Also there has been much dissent because of chimp boy
But the main thing they want is - no challenge whatsoever.
A few spaceships ain't gonna allow 10,000 to control billions.
More work is being done.
In the Iraq war they are testing microwaves, lasers, DU effects (mainly to see what happens if they decise to press the button).
So they are constantly experimenting to make sure that there will be no option for the masses, and Ed Kennedy is in on it too. That is why he doesn't give a shit about Robert, John, or John Jr.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 11:11 am | #
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No, just you and a couple of other trolls here. All of you know who you are, you included, and so do we. I'm not the only one who sees right through you.
ONLY True Peace, WOLF [not "Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf)"](!)....
re sane
There´s plenty of funds for disinfo, remember the Pentagon lost over 2 trillion
I guess you know where they went huh?
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 11:14 am | #
Of course to fund project "Operation Prescott's Final Solution"
Stage I - Consolidate Power - Fix election
Stage II - New Pearl Harbor - Blame the Arabs on 911 / 7-7 / Bali to control the availabilty of oil and break the world's most powerful army in the process
Stage III - Disarm the people - VT/Columbine
Stage IV - Divide and Conquer - Blame the Jews (BLOGS)
Stage V - Roundup - Start the FEMA Camps (COMING)
MISSION BEING ACCOMPLISHED
re sane
I explained exactly how free energy would make it a one year project to enslave mankind, apparantly you need to scroll down. As for comparing free water to free energy you really show the depths of your ignorance there.
Sane your an asshole! Christian was trying to show you how everything comes down to the new testament "I don't need scriptures to see what is up, but remember that Jesus and other (Nostradamus, Orwell, etc.) did not say to enjoy the fucking show. They said that the insanity can will stop when exposed. It is absolutely in our hands. And sorry to say but bible thumping and sitting in a pew ain't gonna stop it." The irony of the whole thing is that all the scriptures that guy gave you talked about people just like you and you didnt have enough sense to know it,lmao !
JJ | 04.23.07 - 11:11 am | #
Any statement like this coming from you only adds to the logic in my analysis.
Guess your "real knowledge" of scriptures are bigger than my knowledge of scriptures.
Bottom line of the scriptures: we are all the same with different skin bags. But there are people using our outward differences to have us kill each other as they gain more power.
re sane
There´s plenty of funds for disinfo, remember the Pentagon lost over 2 trillion
I guess you know where they went huh?
this is simple to figuer out the trees witch the bees live in are fucking gone they are doing mother natures job by taking the bees here and there we as humans should not have to do mother natures job we are killing the planet witch will kill us people some rich leaders do not care they want the population dead so this will not happen get the picture also people live 100 years if your lucky there is a hell there is a heaven we will all go to one or the other life is short forever is forever your choice
Why the hell would the NWO need someone to post on messageboards if they had unlimited energy?
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 11:06 am | #
How the hell is that a logical analysis????
We have free food, water, and air (soon to be removed), has that stopped NWO?
Free energy does not allow 10,000 to enslave and kill billions. Where is the reference material???
We have nukes and underground bunkers to protect the elite, yet they are not used.
Stop making 3rd grade arguments it just has me question any of your "scientific knowledge."
Sane your an asshole! Christian was trying to show you how everything comes down to the new testament "I don't need scriptures to see what is up, but remember that Jesus and other (Nostradamus, Orwell, etc.) did not say to enjoy the fucking show. They said that the insanity can will stop when exposed. It is absolutely in our hands. And sorry to say but bible thumping and sitting in a pew ain't gonna stop it." The irony of the whole thing is that all the scriptures that guy gave you talked about people just like you and you didnt have enough sense to know it,lmao !
re Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf)
So basically what you are saying is that its ok for YOU to be critical of people simply because you feel like it, and if someone ever happens to disagree wth you they are government shills or agents of the NWO? That´s a healthy attitude i think and it will win you much love and respect all over the world. I heard they are looking for new overseers at Abu Ghraib, ever thought of sending in an application?
Sorry to repeat, but I think it is helpful:
Man, first I have to out the Zionist conspiracy theorists, then the mind control distractors and now the free energy debunkers. How many fucking people are my taxes paying for to work on Project D?
re sane
Again you rant and rave without thinking. Why the hell would the NWO need someone to post on messageboards if they had unlimited energy? Answer is, they wouldn´t. I am not denying that they want to kill 90% of the population, i advocate awareness, but we should try to get our facts straight and not mix apples and oranges.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 10:53 am | #
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Troublemaker, like most trolls, you're real good at making yourself appear "cool" some of the time, and then at attacking and harassing people; and I've watched you "troll" people here, like "Commenter" and "Sara/Whatever" do, quite a few times. So don't try to play me for a fool, Tool; and don't try to get away with being condescending and/or patronizing to me, etc.; for I see right through you and your mindgames, "Stool".
ONLY True Peace, with those who are True Peacemakers, not makers of "war" of one kind or another,
just stop it.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 10:50 am | #
Stop what? Stop exposing the conflict of interest in having energy companies owning the energy research programs at Universities.
How does your superior knowledge of quantum mechanics cause that statement?
You may know some quantum mechanics, but you are a 3rd grader when it comes to logical reasoning.
Wolf' You are a fucking little freak.
You are a phony little scum bag.
Get a life dick brain.
The Britt is a dipshit kid, but at least he did not rape, shoot and burn a child and her family like the US bastards did. We have no business over there but oil, and these assholes prove it.
You are the one who is feeding us bullshit with the illuminati and EHM divide and conquer techniques.
Being smart no longer gives you any fucking moral authority. Stop seducing eith your knowledge of Italian and Quantum Mechanics, your heart may be as black as coal for all we know.
People like you plaque the NGO's with your seemingly innocent rants, but they convey a very sinister plot.
John Perkins warned us of your seductions with your
http://www.johnperkins.org/Prologue.htm
The subtlety of this modern empire-building puts the Roman centurions, the Spanish conquistadors, and the eighteenth- and nineteenth-century European colonial powers to shame. We EHMs are crafty; we learned from history. Today we do not carry swords. We do not wear armor or clothes that set us apart. In countries like Ecuador, Nigeria, and Indonesia, we dress like local schoolteachers and shop owners. In Washington and Paris, we look like government bureaucrats and bankers. We appear humble, normal. We visit project sites and stroll through impoverished villages. We profess altruism, talk with local papers about the wonderful humanitarian things we are doing. We cover the conference tables of government committees with our spreadsheets and financial projections, and we lecture at the Harvard Business School about the miracles of macroeconomics. We are on the record, in the open. Or so we portray ourselves, and so are we accepted. It is how the system works. We seldom resort to anything illegal because the system itself is built on subterfuge, and the system is by definition legitimate.
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Wow, it appears I struck a nerve....
"Na-na-na-na-na!" ROTFLOL!
Ce, ce, ciao, bella....
ONLY True Peace,
re Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf)
I am a shill because i dont want to drive confused people away? with that kind of attitude im sure you must have a lot of friends. All i ask is that you don´t treat people like shit when they are less informed than you. At least this Vince character showed some energy, try winning him over instead of just parading your own limited knowledge.
re sane
the point isnt that i know more about alternative energy than you do, of course i do, anyone can see that, the point is that you havent got a clue what you´re talking about and you much like the movie "the secret" help to confuse people. you go around thinking you are enlightened but youre simply just victim of a different set of lies. Dont take it personally, just stop it.
sane,
Why do you to comment on everything everyone posts?
Sometimes it's better to BE QUIET !!
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 10:44 am | #
Oh yeah and because of an MLK speech I am a little past being quiet:
"Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality."
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 10:42 am | #
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Hey, thank you for your correction of my Italian, your right on that score; but on the rest of what you suggest, I'll leave that up to you, Troll (and perhaps gov't shill?).
ONLY True Peace,
WOLFSHIT is a freak ! WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak !WOLFSHIT is a freak ! SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FREAKED OUT PIECE OF DOG SHIT !!!
sane,
Why do you to comment on everything everyone posts?
Sometimes it's better to BE QUIET !!
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 10:44 am | #
Guess I have issues
sane,
Why do you to comment on everything everyone posts?
Sometimes it's better to BE QUIET !!
re sane
Stick to what you can understand and you may be taken seriously at times. You continue to talk quantum physics and zero point energy and mix it with by comparison stone age technology like cold fusion, viable solar energy or nuclear fission. You clearly have no grasp of the implications of something like zero point energy and you portrait the MIC as something so dark, strong and advanced that it cant possibly ever be defeated. Well if you were right we would all be dead so we can simply draw the conclusion that you are wrong. The question is just on how many points, i´d say plenty. But instead of just dropping the references to things you dont understand you play grade school rhetorical tricks and think you can sneak bullshit in under the radar of plain ol country folk like myself, well son, it won´t.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 10:22 am | #
Again, uh ok.
What does any of that have to do with the research boycott?
I mean why do you keep using the "free-energy-dubunker" handbook?
http://www.haloscan.com/
comments...omments10#66625
"Hey everyone, I know more about zero point energy than he does, nyah nyah."
Who the fuck cares as our kids are dying in a needless war to raise the price of a fraudulent energy market?
re Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf)
You probably ment Vincenzo and not Vincente (at least if you wanna make it sound Italian... And im not so sure you are gonna help him understand anything by being condescending. He is still stuck in a non existing paradigm, give him something to hold on to instead. Possibly ask him to point out an actual difference between the Hillary and Bush policy.... other than if to order the meat or the fish when they dine together...
Vince, YOUR a TOTAL moronic, gullible, sheeple,TOTALLY! THIS fight is NOT about lib's versus conservative's nor left versus right, YOU IDIOT but about patriotic American's fighting against TRAITORS FROM BOTH SIDES OF AISLE YOU MORONIC SHEEPLE! GET A F*CKING CLUE! 9-11 WAS,WAS an inside job along with ALL the other BOGUS 'TERRORISTS ACTS" TOO! The CIA and Mossad CREATED AND MANTAIN THE DAMN BOGUS BOOGEYMEN "ALQUEDA" YOU IDIOT! "WAR ON TERRORISM' IS PURE BOGUS, PURE BOGUS AND DONE BY NWO, YOU IDIOT! And NO, I NEVER want Marshall Law, you idiot! It is YOUR FACIST MASS MURDERING PRESIDENT THAT YOU PROBABLY VOTED FOR TWICE, THAT INTENDS TO HAVE MARSHALL LAW AFTER HE AND HIS CRONIES DO ANOTHER 9-11 TYPE ATTACK AGAIN ON AMERICA OR WORSE BESIDES PURPOSEDLY COLLAPSING OUR DOLLAR, AND BY THE WAY, MOST R'S LIKE "BIG GOV'T" WHEN THEY MILK US TAXPAYER'S AND/OR OTHERWISE "MILK" Big gov't for what THEY can get out of it but when it comes to gov't helping little guy or gal, NO way! That is FACT! What are you going to do moronic stupid, gullible sheeple when fascist mass murdering Bush calls out foreign troops on YOUR ass and tries to put YOU into one of those 800 FEMA camps? And YES some Dem's SUCK TOO!
If the people on this board are any indication of what has happened to our country, then we're fucked!! What a bunch of losers.
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only strikes my sense of irony that I see YOU here as well somehow, youre last name must be mcMahon, out to promote some WWE style wrestling here. the only respose that style of attack deserves is BIG laughter, maybe you oughtta go back to playing with O'reilly and bonnaDUNCEe, jerry springer.. thats gotta be spoken from experience, am sure he paid you well to throw a chair on camera last year too. ROFL.
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I'm glad I caught this before I crashed out. I know more than one are probably writing a good reply to this tool (and not the sharpest one in the shed either), but I'll give it my best shot too:
(Said in an Italian accent): Yo, Vincente, or may I call you Vinnie? Most of us slobs here aren't liberals. We're True Conservatives, Paleo-Conservatives and/or Constitutionalists. We want less government, not big government. You be understandin' me now, Vinnie, or not?
ONLY True Peace,
RE:Iranian Hostage Sailor Drunkenly Mocks Ordeal
"They need to know their sons and daughters didn't die in vain but this cheapens their sacrifice."
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Yea, their sacrifice for The New World Order.
But liberals will be the first to call for martail law when it all hits the fan. AND IT WILL!!! Why? Because libs like big government. Libs want the government to take over all the responsibilities that adults use to assume. So, when it hits the fan and Chicago is rendered uninhabitable what happens? The libs will squeal like the useless fucks that they are and will be at the bottom of the ditch hoping Big Brother will take the nuclear fallout and dry their crying little eyes and calm their undeniable fear.
A stitch in time saves nine and appeasement NEVER works. NEVER!!!!!!
Vince | 04.23.07 - 10:20 am | #
libs and conservs are two sides of the one world money coin.
Conservatives: People cannot have rights for the time being (automatically extended period of time) because of fearful enemies.
Liberals: People cannot have rights because we need to address pressing domestic issues.
Same result - we get no fucking rights!
re sane
Stick to what you can understand and you may be taken seriously at times. You continue to talk quantum physics and zero point energy and mix it with by comparison stone age technology like cold fusion, viable solar energy or nuclear fission. You clearly have no grasp of the implications of something like zero point energy and you portrait the MIC as something so dark, strong and advanced that it cant possibly ever be defeated. Well if you were right we would all be dead so we can simply draw the conclusion that you are wrong. The question is just on how many points, i´d say plenty. But instead of just dropping the references to things you dont understand you play grade school rhetorical tricks and think you can sneak bullshit in under the radar of plain ol country folk like myself, well son, it won´t.
If the people on this board are any indication of what has happened to our country, then we're fucked!! What a bunch of losers. You are the dumb fuckers that sit around watching the Springer show swearing to God that you've had an Elvis sighting. What a bunch of paranoid, immature conformists. Study your history and get a job, for crying out loud. Or better still, get a life!! Watching that guy on the youtube video gave me the same feeling I get when i watch Richard Holbrook...total academic elitist arrogance, like all liberals. Go to Starbucks, spend 10 bucks for a cup of mocha whatever the fuck and talk about how the world is in your little sheltered world devoid of any semblance of reality. Martial law? People have worried about that shit forever..like it's really going to happen and threaten law abiding people.
But liberals will be the first to call for martail law when it all hits the fan. AND IT WILL!!! Why? Because libs like big government. Libs want the government to take over all the responsibilities that adults use to assume. So, when it hits the fan and Chicago is rendered uninhabitable what happens? The libs will squeal like the useless fucks that they are and will be at the bottom of the ditch hoping Big Brother will take the nuclear fallout and dry their crying little eyes and calm their undeniable fear.
A stitch in time saves nine and appeasement NEVER works. NEVER!!!!!!
nice video clip, uhhm nevermind that it'd take weeks to plant the charges to drop such a building.. unless it happened to be pre-wired when it was built (?) and somewhere was posted something relating possible bin-laden construction.. put options on stocks, astronomical returns on the initial leasing of the buildings and the insurance coverage... it IS all getting exposed. the more important things 'who is behind it all and benefits' are getting exposed too, even more slowly. as I plug amenstop productions series, again, titled "Ring of Power"
re sane
Ok i realize now that you´re just a pathetic little troll. You persist on mixing existing alternatives with dream scenarios of non applicable physics. You are either totally ignorant of our physical reality or a downright moron. I just explained that energy companies have an interest in keeping alternatives down, but zero point energy is NOT one of them. If such energy existed you would already be dead, but oh no you won´t have any of that.. no no the gov has space technology from tesla-land and you are gonna bring them down by sawing their owl god in half or whatever. Fuck it, with people like you in the truth movement we really need no enemies.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 9:57 am | #
Uh like ok, so either read what I wrote or continue bashing me because you have "superior knowledge." Like AEI's Leeden's superior knowledge that gets us fucked in Iraq and begging to go into Iran.
NGO's superior knowledge theory is not an excuse to keep fucking over the masses.
You have some good knowledge, great! Stop dissuading people from exposing the research boycott on alternative and free energy with that superior knowledge (or do I really don't care). People can smell the bullshit by now
Gosh, now my spelling and grammar is getting atrocious again. It must be time for me to hit the sack. Ciao, until this afternoon or evening, all you truly "peaceseeking missiles"!
"Dear" trolls and other sundry nasty, disrespectful souls, of both myself and First Amendment rights, etc., please keep your attacks and libelous slanders to a mininum while I'm gone, if you have any self control over it; and, if you have any respect for anyone else here, please do it not for me but for them. Thank you for all of your consideration, sincerely, and....
"....Happy Trails to you, until we meet again....", and ONLY True Peace, for those that want Peace,
Very sad news guys, Boris Yeltsin has died. Thiis corageous man attempted to do in Russia what JFK tried here. Get rid of all the fucking secrecy. I will pray for his family.
Can't you people find somewhere else to talk about god? This comments board isn't even sufficient to respond to stories on Prison Planet without having to wade through your nonsense as well!
Here are excerpts from the Flight 93 Voice Cockpit Recorder Transcript, and then look at the numbers. Many refs: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12286423/ Flight 93 cockpit tape transcript
>>>BEGINNING>>> 09:31:57 -- Ladies and Gentlemen: Here the captain, please sit down keep remaining seating. We have a bomb on board. So sit.
>>>ENDING>>> 10:03:09 -- Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest.
>>>THIRTY-NINTH MINUTE>>> 09:39:11 -- Ah. Here's the captain; I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet,
09:39:21 -- Okay. That's ninety three calling?
09:39:24 -- One moment.
09:39:34 -- United ninety three. I understand you have a bomb on board. Go ahead.
09:39:42 -- And center execjet nine fifty six. That was the transmission,
09:39:47 -- Okay. Ah. Who called Cleveland?
09:39:52 -- Executive jet nine fifty six, did you understand that transmission?
09:39:56 -- Affirmative. He said that there was a bomb on board,
09:39:58 -- That was all that you got out of it also?
>>> ELEVEN SECONDS>>> 09:39:11 -- Ah. Here's the captain; I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet,
09:54:11 -- Unintelligible, 09:59:11 -- Sit down. 10:00:11 -- There is nothing. 10:01:11 -- Saeed.
>>>NINE ALLAHS>>> 10:03:02 -- Allah is the Greatest. 10:03:03 -- Allah is the Greatest 10:03:04 -- Allah is the Greatest. 10:03:06 -- Allah is the Greatest. 10:03:06 -- Allah is the Greatest. 10:03:07 -- No. 10:03:09 -- Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest. 10:03:09 -- Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest.
>>>My Observation:
A. The Beginning and Ending: starts at 9:31, ends at 10:03:09 = 931 139, or, starts and ends with 93 & 39, the plane's flight Number [93].
B. Thirty-Ninth Minute: most of the transcript is only short statements, however the Longest Paragraph is the first entry of the Thirty-Ninth Minute [39 "93" backwards]. Let's see what we find,
1) This long Paragraph contains thirty-six words [36]; rotate the '6' to a '9' and you have a "39".
2) At :21 and :34 seconds the traffic controller mentions "ninety three" [93]; then, at :42 and :52 seconds, mentions exec jet "nine fifty six" [9 / 56 => 9 & 5+6 => 9 11]. Two 93's and Two 9/11's.
3) There are Nine entries for the Thirty-Ninth Minute.
4) That Longest Paragraph just happens to begin at 9:39:11, yes, Ninety-Three and Nine Eleven. The time for the longest statement in the final half-hour of the transcript just happens to be the Flight Number and the Date.
5) #2 and #4 above give us Three [93 -- 9/11]'s.
C. Eleven Seconds: there are five entries that end with Eleven Seconds, 9:39:11 of course, and 09:54:11, 09:59:11, 10:00:11, 10:01:11. Only one more 9/11 there, maybe 9:54:11 could be 5+4 = 9 & 11, but the last two are all Ones, Seven of them. So maybe Three more Nine-Elevens.
D) Nine Allahs: In the last several seconds, 10:03:02 to 10:03:09, the four hijackers manage to say "Allah is the Greatest" Nine times. Cute.
E) MEANING: Well maybe planes like to crash when their voice recorder times would equal the plane's flight number, and maybe people like to talk a lot at a time equal to the plane's flight number and the date, and maybe Moslems like to say "Allah. . ." nine times, and stuff like that.
F) Does this means the Flight 93 Cockpit Voice Recorder Transcript is a fake?
In the immortal words of this transcript (((look it up Pal - it's at 9:35:32))): "Are you talking to me".
Hey, Are YOU talking to me, You Jones, Are you talking to MEHere are excerpts from the Flight 93 Voice Cockpit Recorder Transcript, and then look at the numbers. Many refs: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12286423/ Flight 93 cockpit tape transcript
>>>BEGINNING>>> 09:31:57 -- Ladies and Gentlemen: Here the captain, please sit down keep remaining seating. We have a bomb on board. So sit.
>>>ENDING>>> 10:03:09 -- Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest.
>>>THIRTY-NINTH MINUTE>>> 09:39:11 -- Ah. Here's the captain; I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet,
09:39:21 -- Okay. That's ninety three calling?
09:39:24 -- One moment.
09:39:34 -- United ninety three. I understand you have a bomb on board. Go ahead.
09:39:42 -- And center execjet nine fifty six. That was the transmission,
09:39:47 -- Okay. Ah. Who called Cleveland?
09:39:52 -- Executive jet nine fifty six, did you understand that transmission?
09:39:56 -- Affirmative. He said that there was a bomb on board,
09:39:58 -- That was all that you got out of it also?
>>> ELEVEN SECONDS>>> 09:39:11 -- Ah. Here's the captain; I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet,
09:54:11 -- Unintelligible, 09:59:11 -- Sit down. 10:00:11 -- There is nothing. 10:01:11 -- Saeed.
>>>NINE ALLAHS>>> 10:03:02 -- Allah is the Greatest. 10:03:03 -- Allah is the Greatest 10:03:04 -- Allah is the Greatest. 10:03:06 -- Allah is the Greatest. 10:03:06 -- Allah is the Greatest. 10:03:07 -- No. 10:03:09 -- Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest. 10:03:09 -- Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest.
>>>My Observation:
A. The Beginning and Ending: starts at 9:31, ends at 10:03:09 = 931 139, or, starts and ends with 93 & 39, the plane's flight Number [93].
B. Thirty-Ninth Minute: most of the transcript is only short statements, however the Longest Paragraph is the first entry of the Thirty-Ninth Minute [39 "93" backwards]. Let's see what we find,
1) This long Paragraph contains thirty-six words [36]; rotate the '6' to a '9' and you have a "39".
2) At :21 and :34 seconds the traffic controller mentions "ninety three" [93]; then, at :42 and :52 seconds, mentions exec jet "nine fifty six" [9 / 56 => 9 & 5+6 => 9 11]. Two 93's and Two 9/11's.
3) There are Nine entries for the Thirty-Ninth Minute.
4) That Longest Paragraph just happens to begin at 9:39:11, yes, Ninety-Three and Nine Eleven. The time for the longest statement in the final half-hour of the transcript just happens to be the Flight Number and the Date.
5) #2 and #4 above give us Three [93 -- 9/11]'s.
C. Eleven Seconds: there are five entries that end with Eleven Seconds, 9:39:11 of course, and 09:54:11, 09:59:11, 10:00:11, 10:01:11. Only one more 9/11 there, maybe 9:54:11 could be 5+4 = 9 & 11, but the last two are all Ones, Seven of them. So maybe Three more Nine-Elevens.
D) Nine Allahs: In the last several seconds, 10:03:02 to 10:03:09, the four hijackers manage to say "Allah is the Greatest" Nine times. Cute.
E) MEANING: Well maybe planes like to crash when their voice recorder times would equal the plane's flight number, and maybe people like to talk a lot at a time equal to the plane's flight number and the date, and maybe Moslems like to say "Allah. . ." nine times, and stuff like that.
F) Does this means the Flight 93 Cockpit Voice Recorder Transcript is a fake? In the immortal words of this transcript,(look it up - it's at 9:35:32) "Are you talking to me".
Hey, Are YOU talking to me, You Jones, Are you talking to ME
Yes but I am afraid that the feds will also come back with the scenario that " that is why the site HAD to cleaned up so quickly" to protect the responders and the public.
I can see where this is going.
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 9:47 am | #
I do not agree, they are in the hole and the more they dig (especially on this one) the deeper they will get.
They needed to close the area and put ofut the fires. The fires were going on for 3 months.
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Coward, this "freak" is probably years older than you are, immature "child".
Now, no doubt someone, if not more than one troublemaker like this moron, will fraudulently claim, and false get others to believe it, that when they attack me, they supposedly have a right to do that, but I supposedly don't have the right to defend myself.
Well, I DO ignore the most of the true trolls here, but I'm not going to ignore, or fail to stand up to ignorant, anti-First-Amendment shills lie ignoramuses like this one.
Thank you for your concern(s) also, but I am NOT a "plant", you libelous slanderer.
ONLY True Peace and Truce, after you stop disturbing the Peace, and/or you extend the olive branch or peacepipe (make love, not war?),
re sane
Ok i realize now that you´re just a pathetic little troll. You persist on mixing existing alternatives with dream scenarios of non applicable physics. You are either totally ignorant of our physical reality or a downright moron. I just explained that energy companies have an interest in keeping alternatives down, but zero point energy is NOT one of them. If such energy existed you would already be dead, but oh no you won´t have any of that.. no no the gov has space technology from tesla-land and you are gonna bring them down by sawing their owl god in half or whatever. Fuck it, with people like you in the truth movement we really need no enemies.
I see your point and I do agree with you. But it just really pisses me off that NO ONE that has the ways and means to really bring the destruction of the twin towers by explosives to the fore front will not do it.
We don't have time to trim this thing from the top down. We need a massive toppling here.
Get my drift?
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 9:41 am | #
I truly agree with you and wish we had our constitutionally permitted militia in place to get the rapers of this country out and true patriots in. My battle with realism forces me to take many deep breaths. But rest assured that John Kerry has already confirmed controlled demolition. But as we know the media oligopoly will not play it because they think (staying on metaphor) if a tree falls down in a forrest and no one is there to hear it, it will not make a sound.
Well fuckers, I heard it and it made a thunderous roar!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...y%5Fwtc7%
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These guys have been used as a way to say stop questioning 911. It is a direct rebuttal to "dead intern in office" Scarborogh, AEI, Bill O, and the other jesrkoffs using these guys as the only excuse they can muster. Once that is torn down and they condition most Americans into the extent of the deception and why it was so important to move the steel when it was an inferno, more will be revealed.
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Yes but I am afraid that the feds will also come back with the scenario that " that is why the site HAD to cleaned up so quickly" to protect the responders and the public.
I can see where this is going.
having had some experience in residential tree service, pruning and removal from the top on down in small sections to prevent the home from being crushed in the process is pretty standard. this being a metaphor that seems to apply here.
Sees Things | 04.23.07 - 9:36 am | #
NICE!!!!!
ONLY True Peace,
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf)
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I think this little freak is a plant.
Get a life dude !! Somewhere else preferably.
having had some experience in residential tree service, pruning and removal from the top on down in small sections to prevent the home from being crushed in the process is pretty standard. this being a metaphor that seems to apply here.
Sees Things | 04.23.07 - 9:36 am | #
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I see your point and I do agree with you. But it just really pisses me off that NO ONE that has the ways and means to really bring the destruction of the twin towers by explosives to the fore front will not do it.
We don't have time to trim this thing from the top down. We need a massive toppling here.
Get my drift?
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 04.23.07 - 9:21 am | #
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Get real, Man. Please stop saying things and making accusations concerning that of which you don't know what your talking about.
First of all, I read the Bible quite often.
Second, I have read it cover to cover at least twice in life, twice more than most people and most professed-"Christians".
Third, NONE of this is in any way meant as bragging; as I probably should read it cover to cover again, and again, and again....
Fourth, thank you for the veiled compliments.
Fifth, I will work on improving myself.
Thank you too for your concern(s).
ONLY True Peace,
Boy that patriot act really could clean house if a real patriot was in the whitehouse.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 9:16 am | #
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Yes but how it works is the patriot act will used by the real terrorist to silence the real patriots.
You don't cut a tree down from the top.
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 9:31 am | #
having had some experience in residential tree service, pruning and removal from the top on down in small sections to prevent the home from being crushed in the process is pretty standard. this being a metaphor that seems to apply here.
RE: 9/11 First Responders To Be On "The View"
What happened to having scholars from the universities on The View?
I would bet a dollar to a donut that it never happens.
And I would also bet that there is NO discussion of explosives either. It will be about the bad air in N.Y. and how the responders are getting screwed. And yes they are being screwed, but if they would focus on the buildings being brought down on purpose, then go after the lieing bastards that planned it,( or let it happen? ) then all would come out as a lie.
You don't cut a tree down from the top.
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 9:31 am | #
Patience young skywalker.
These guys have been used as a way to say stop questioning 911. It is a direct rebuttal to "dead intern in office" Scarborogh, AEI, Bill O, and the other jesrkoffs using these guys as the only excuse they can muster. Once that is torn down and they condition most Americans into the extent of the deception and why it was so important to move the steel when it was an inferno, more will be revealed.
These people have been shuned from the media oligopoly and their presence on the View can be nothing but great!
RE: 9/11 First Responders To Be On "The View"
What happened to having scholars from the universities on The View?
I would bet a dollar to a donut that it never happens.
And I would also bet that there is NO discussion of explosives either. It will be about the bad air in N.Y. and how the responders are getting screwed. And yes they are being screwed, but if they would focus on the buildings being brought down on purpose, then go after the lieing bastards that planned it,( or let it happen? ) then all would come out as a lie.
You don't cut a tree down from the top.
oh it sure could !! got many pairs of pliers just waiting for orders here too !!
Sees Things | 04.23.07 - 9:20 am | #
Yes sir, reminds me of Pulp fiction
...and a blowtorch. I'm gonna get midevil on this fucker here and that's the damn truth.
difficult to stay on any topic with the catch all "reader comments" as well, not divided by topics.. and only some of them are. this catch all "reader comments" IS bloaty and refresh on it is slow, so is searching it top to bottom for some MEAT.. just how it is.
more black ops to come
the public is fully conditioned
with only a handful able to comprehend keeping our cool under pressure
they will looki to perform more and more goofy stunts
as well as blame normal stuff on goofy trorst phantoms
wolfy?
simply show me the scripture man
i aint against the word dude
i read in your own blog this morning that you say jesus is michael
are you off your medicated rocker?
i like your links to real articles
i love your fervor
but cmon man
just read the book for yourself
you cannot keep going on this jesus kick if you dont even know who jesus is
dang
my friend
put the blog down and read the book
quit spouting off bible when you havent read it
In actuality, the Patriot Act allows a US President to take over any and all companies suspected of sponsoring terrorism (AEI, AIG, Blackwater, Halliburton, GE, etc.). It allows for the immediate custody of people and search of their property for people feeding terrorism by the use of coordinated propoganda that is used to affect policy making.
This would include all the 4 big media sources from the anchors to the owners.
Boy that patriot act really could clean house if a real patriot was in the whitehouse.
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oh it sure could !! got many pairs of pliers just waiting for orders here too !!
Suggestion: How 'bout, instead of spamming the same material over and over again endlessly, why don't you get some new material; and/or, for the casual, uninitiated surfer and reader here, at least add links to proof for each and every one of those points you make, where available, instead of insufficiently backing up what you so often post.
Thank you again.
ONLY True Peace,
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 9:12 am | #
I guess because people like sara purposefully stick a shitload of line breaks to dissuade the reader of the blog to find the juicy content they so desperately yearn for. Most of the positive feedback I get comes from reposts like the one I just did. If there was a way to so multilevel blogging, then your sussgestion would be better received. I will think about it though and work on a compromise. I am not here to annoy, but to share.
and of course, where does an elected or appointed official get off pleading the 5th with "I dont recall" was alberto gonzales preparation for defense in court watching reruns of oliver north for 72 sleepless hours?! maybe some waterboarding and pliers to his and his sons testicles would jog his friggin memory? I like playing a good game by the rules and winning, and am sooo glad to know these new rules, is there anything wrong with the writers of these new rules being subjected to them ?! (ROFL)
Sees Things | 04.23.07 - 9:10 am | #
In actuality, the Patriot Act allows a US President to take over any and all companies suspected of sponsoring terrorism (AEI, AIG, Blackwater, Halliburton, GE, etc.). It allows for the immediate custody of people and search of their property for people feeding terrorism by the use of coordinated propoganda that is used to affect policy making.
This would include all the 4 big media sources from the anchors to the owners.
Boy that patriot act really could clean house if a real patriot was in the whitehouse.
Thanks, "Sane", I agree; and, if you look at my blog, the bottom (comment footer) link, and my website below, I think you will see that I do that:
http://www.wolf-britain.com/
Suggestion: How 'bout, instead of spamming the same material over and over again endlessly, why don't you get some new material; and/or, for the casual, uninitiated surfer and reader here, at least add links to proof for each and every one of those points you make, where available, instead of insufficiently backing up what you so often post.
Thank you again.
ONLY True Peace,
and of course, where does an elected or appointed official get off pleading the 5th with "I dont recall" was alberto gonzales preparation for defense in court watching reruns of oliver north for 72 sleepless hours?! maybe some waterboarding and pliers to his and his sons testicles would jog his friggin memory? I like playing a good game by the rules and winning, and am sooo glad to know these new rules, is there anything wrong with the writers of these new rules being subjected to them ?! (ROFL)
The "Silent" Ninth Amendment Gives Americans Rights They Don't Know They Have
http://alternet.org/rights/50404/
By Daniel A. Farber, Basic Books. Posted April 23, 2007.
The first Amendment right of free speech and the Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination are well known, but the Ninth Amendment is ignored. Pity, because it bears directly on abortion, the right to die, and gay rights.
The following is an excerpt from Daniel A. Farber's "Retained by the People: The 'Silent' Ninth Amendment and the Constitutional Rights Americans Don't Know They Have" (Perseus Books, 2007).
The following is an excerpt from Daniel A. Farber's forthcoming "Retained by the People: The 'Silent' Ninth Amendment and the Constitutional Rights Americans Don't Know They Have" (Perseus Books, 2007), available April 30.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. --The Ninth Amendment
Everyone knows about the First Amendment right of free speech and the Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination. Even the once-forgotten Second Amendment, with its "right to bear arms," has reemerged in public debate. But few people know about the Ninth Amendment, which reaffirms in broad terms rights "retained by the people." Indeed, the Ninth flies so far under the radar that it has rarely been mentioned even by the Supreme Court.
What a pity. Even more, what a terrible oversight: the Ninth Amendment bears directly on such modern-day constitutional issues as abortion, the right to die, and gay rights.
The Ninth Amendment is key to understanding how the Founding Fathers thought about the liberties they expected Americans to enjoy under the Constitution. They did not believe that they were creating these liberties in the Bill of Rights. Instead, they were merely acknowledging some of the rights that no government could properly deny.
The history of the Constitution reveals the purpose of the Ninth and the Founders' intent: to protect what constitutional lawyers call unenumerated rights -- those rights the Founder assumed and felt no need to specify in the Bill of Rights. Unenumerated rights include, for example, the right to privacy. In the America of today, unenumerated rights account for freedoms like a woman's right to abortion. ...
The truth is that anyone interested in the political and legal issues of the day can and should look to the Ninth Amendment for guidance.
The Ninth Amendment is paired with an almost equally forgotten provision, the Privileges or Immunities Clause (P or I Clause) of the Fourteenth Amendment, which draws from the same intellectual roots. The Ninth Amendment is like the rest of the original Bill of Rights: it speaks only to limits on federal power rather than to the powers of state governments. Limitations on state governments came along later, with the post-Civil War Fourteenth Amendment. Thus, the Ninth Amendment addresses the federal government; the Fourteenth addresses the states.
The human rights vision that survived the Civil War and was confirmed by the Fourteenth Amendment consciously complements that of the Founders. Confronting what these provisions really mean has the potential to reshape the way we think about the Constitution.
In particular, a look at this history helps us address the very controversial question of Supreme Court reliance on foreign law. The Framers thought that fundamental rights were embedded in what they called "the law of nations," and we should follow their lead in seeking inspiration abroad. However, their openness to foreign law is not universally shared today. When Justice Kennedy referred to foreign law in two judicial opinions on the issues of homosexuality and the death penalty, he was subject to an onslaught of criticism from legal commentators. Many of those same commentators question whether the United States is bound by international human rights laws, such as the Geneva Convention's prohibitions on mistreatment of prisoners. ...
Well, Andrew, I see your close friend Gabe has you worked up and turned even more against me, and that you aren't even worth responding to any further than that and the following:
"....Get... BEHIND (Jesus the Christ): for you are an offense unto (Him): for you favor not the things that be of God, but those that be of [humankind, such as harassing, libeling, slandering, and character assassinating {"(t)he extreme form of (attempted) censorship"--George Bernard Shaw} of someone who admits he does not know everything]...."(!) [Matthew 16:23; emphasis added by me], ONLY in Jesus the Christ's name....
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 8:41 am | #
Scripture is nice, but Jesus wanted us to expose these killers so we can awaken the masses to their evil plans. I'll start:
AEI published author and suspected 911 blackmail pawn of the president: Jeff Gannon/Johnny Gosh (TAKE THE DNA TEST, A MOTHER NEEDS TO KNOW)
AEI Planner of the current "SURGE LONG AND SURGE HARD" pornographic slaughter route for our children and the upcoming "Iran Bloodbath:" Michael Ledeen
AEI published constitutional destroyer and appeaser to the chimp crushing a child's testicles if it will make the father talk: John Yoo
Destroyer of the US Judicial System: Antonio Gonzales (ARRESTING BORDER AGENTS/IMMUNIZING DRUG DEALERS/IGNORING HALLIBURTON CHILD RAPE CHAMBERS)
Destroyer of FEMA: Michael Chertoff (BUILDING CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN THE HOME OF THE FREE)
Destroyer of GSA: Lurita Alexis Doan (YOU STOLE FROM US)
Destroyer of EPA: Christina Whitman (YOU KILLED US WITH YOUR LIES)
Destroyer of US Education: Margaret Spellings (HOW COULD YOU ACCEPT THIS JOB???)
some convo turned to energy overnight, cool. whats uncool with the fossil fuel scene.. we import about all we use, traitors sold off about all our production and refineries to BP, owned by the queen of england, bush's relative.. and is exported, so the supertanker corporates get rich off transporting it globally.. umm carlyle group with the bush's and the queen being major players.. making huge bank of unnecessary movement and polluting like mad in doing so which also artificially inflates the costs. interesting.
perpetual motion and free energy, just might be possible.. first thing is breaking a "rule" about putting metal in a microwave. put several microwave emitters in a ceramic lined steel spherical pressure vessel.. will it superheat water enough to create live steam to run a turbine electric generator or alternator, powering the microwave emitters (are efficient at heating water) and giving a free surplus of energy to use?
-add a hartford loop (much like a radiator for a car-and the heat here can be harnessed to make electricity as well(?) or be a homes replacement for a hot water heater) to re-condense live steam back to water to re-introduce to the boiler. this concept has very few moving parts that could fail.
(like bearings and generator/alternator coils) it would require a power source like a gas powered generator to get the cycle initiated. BIG IF - something like this were feasable, a home might run on a 5x10 foot box dressed like a storage shed. "perpetual motion" if possible, my wild imagination says steam would be involved in the process for waters explosive expansion.
sewage treatment plants are a huge source of wasted methane gas as well, where heat and steam potential to produce electricity similarly are completely wasted.. and what a resource!! EVERYONE is full of shit!! ROFL if I could afford to develop these ideas my nickname might have to change to king shithead and I'd wear it proudly, hehe.
Research and generalizations
According to the Secret Service's study of 41 school shooters in 37 incidents, "Almost three-quarters of the attackers felt persecuted, bullied, threatened, attacked or injured by others prior to the incident (71percent, n=29). In several cases, individual attackers had experienced bullying and harassment that was long-standing and severe. In some of these cases the experience of being bullied seemed to have a significant impact on the attacker and appeared to have been a factor in his decision to mount an attack at the school. In one case, most of the attacker's schoolmates described the attacker as "the kid everyone teased." In witness statements from that incident, schoolmates alleged that nearly every child in the school had at some point thrown the attacker against a locker, tripped him in the hall, held his head under water in the pool, or thrown things at him. Several schoolmates had noted that the attacker seemed more annoyed by, and less tolerant of, the teasing than usual in the days preceding the attack." (Vossekuil, B., Fein, R., Reddy, M., Borum, R., Modzeleski, W., 2002, pg 30)
Anonymous | 04.23.07 - 8:47 am | #
BS, mind control patsy covering for the black ops death squad who threw in concussion grenages to confuse everyone.
re sane
Of course there is a reason. Are you familiar with Steven E Jones (9/11 scholar)? He did research cold fusion, not too popular with the oil and nuclear industry i´d say, cold fusion would indeed be a holy grail of free energy, but still nothing like zero point. There is also the issue of developing more effective solar, water and wind generated power systems. You must understand that the Oil industry for example does not plan just for tomorrow, they intend to make a lot of money on the decline of oil production, they prices go up and they make the same amount of money in sales but save on logistics, their power also increases of course. Of course energy giants have many reasons to restrict resarch into alternative sources, but zero point energy or anti matter cancellation technology is not the reason. Just the normal ones, solar, wind, water and whatnot. you may have noticed that oil companies are jumping on the hybrid tech and fuel cell bandwagon now, thats because they are beginning to gain political control over the development of the alternatives. Does that explain it?
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:37 am | #
Yup, the energy companies are scarred to death of real alternatives and have "owned" all research at our universities for a while.
I guess it would be helpful to get them out of our universities so that cold fusion, zero point research, etc. can begin without energy company oversight. ANd maybe full disclosure on non-military technology would be helpful too. Perhaps allowing more open discussion without abuse from so called "experts" may help as well.
Just some thoughts, I guess you might think those ideas lack realistic merit????
Research and generalizations
According to the Secret Service's study of 41 school shooters in 37 incidents, "Almost three-quarters of the attackers felt persecuted, bullied, threatened, attacked or injured by others prior to the incident (71percent, n=29). In several cases, individual attackers had experienced bullying and harassment that was long-standing and severe. In some of these cases the experience of being bullied seemed to have a significant impact on the attacker and appeared to have been a factor in his decision to mount an attack at the school. In one case, most of the attacker's schoolmates described the attacker as "the kid everyone teased." In witness statements from that incident, schoolmates alleged that nearly every child in the school had at some point thrown the attacker against a locker, tripped him in the hall, held his head under water in the pool, or thrown things at him. Several schoolmates had noted that the attacker seemed more annoyed by, and less tolerant of, the teasing than usual in the days preceding the attack." (Vossekuil, B., Fein, R., Reddy, M., Borum, R., Modzeleski, W., 2002, pg 30)
Well, Andrew, I see your close friend Gabe has you worked up and turned even more against me, and that you aren't even worth responding to any further than that and the following:
"....Get... BEHIND (Jesus the Christ): for you are an offense unto (Him): for you favor not the things that be of God, but those that be of [humankind, such as harassing, libeling, slandering, and character assassinating {"(t)he extreme form of (attempted) censorship"--George Bernard Shaw} of someone who admits he does not know everything]...."(!) [Matthew 16:23; emphasis added by me], ONLY in Jesus the Christ's name....
guns dont kill people
people without guns are killed by people with guns
if you want a constitutional chance
exercise the 2nd amendment
it is unalienable
that means we the people dont even need the piece of paper it is written on to live its reality
the paper mearly reminds that it exists
dont be limp noodles
dont be limp wrist panzies
be george washington material
be patrick henry caliber
stand up and sound off
Conversly, everywhere gun restrictions have been relaxed crime has dropped DRASTICALLY.
Do the research yourselves. Sounds like you're parroting faux news............
And this one runs a close second as related, or as the first and the other second, you decide:
http://www.kurtnimmo.com/?p=839
ONLY True Peace,
BAN ALL GUNS!!!
This is idiocy. If you don't know history, you are destined to repeat it. Everywhere guns are banned, ethnic cleansing has quickly followed. Morons.
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns".
wo
wo
wait a minute
wolfy?
did i just read on your blog that????????????
jesus is michael
wth?
the reason you cant find it in the scriptures is that its a fable
hey chris
heres my feedback
worship God
you seem to have had a cool experience
a vehicle, some bright lights
ufology is as ancient as adam
trust "The Real Jesus of Nazareth, born of The Virgin Mary"
as for angels of light, or false teachers that speak stuff that aint in the bible
do not let it desuade you from reading the bible for yourself
genesis 3, 6 math 24, rev, ezek, dan
there are many accounts just like your and Jesus Himself
gives the key to understanding
but dont let goofy garbage like what wolfy yaks up get you off track
you either saw a man made alternative craft
or
you saw a authentic alien craft
either way
defend the constitution, defend the bill of rights, exercise all those rights, defend our republic, defend The Gospel of Truth
good morning wolfy
The one that, thus far, tells it most like it is (sorry, I'm several days behind on keeping up with Kurt's articles, usually reading up on them more immediately upon their posting, so they are dated by a few days):
http://www.kurtnimmo.com/?p=837
ONLY True Peace,
Tammy, where art thou? You okay? Does anyone know if she is alright?
ONLY for True Peace,
Good morning!
For those who don't regularly check his site, Kurt Nimmo has several recent articles he wrote on the Virginia Tech incident on his blog, at:
http://www.kurtnimmo.com/
ONLY True Peace,
they are beginning to gain political control over the development of the alternatives. Does that explain it?
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:37 am | #
-The Patterns Bureau WDC, has access to each and every serious invention, a multitude in regards to alternative energy sources.
Two solutions remain to positive funtional alternatives, the oil companys bid for the pattern and pay off the inventor, or he simply dissapears.
In the spring of 1987 I had a experience that clearly effected my life, and remains with me till this day.
As was my custom in those days I would leave my house and got to a wooded area aproxiemtly 1/2 mile from my home.
It was simply pine grove on high ground overlooking a cranbery bog. No street lights, no houses, no people for wandering about. It was my place of prayer, and quiet communication with my lord.
This night during my moments of prayer I had asked for a sign as is part of my beleif. I continued praying and shortly after noticed a low flying aircraft coming in my direction, though I could not hear the engine, I assumed it was the distance.
The light continued to my location, then it appeared directly over the tree line about 500 yeards from me. I admit I paniced and felt it was either a helicopter or plane , engines out and that it would surely crash. I dropped to the ground behind a fallen tree, and continued watching the light.
I realized my eyes were not affected, the light was the brightest i had ever seen yet I could look into it. My fear left me and I got to my feet. The light continued slowly untill it was but 50 yards from me. There was absolutley no noise, the light itself ws so intense that the the folliage appeared white, my clothing turned white, in fact it appeared as though the enitre area had just been dusted with snow, whiter than snow actualy. It hooverd stationary for about five minutes, I must repeat it was the brightest and most beautifull, yet powerfull light I had ever seen, yet it still did not effect my vision, I looked directly into it during this time. I was completly at peace, no fear whatsoever as I beheld this sight.
Slowly it began to move of to my right,changing direction, very slowly, untill it reached the other tree line, then it picked up speed and and in a matter of moments had traveled beyond my sight.
I have never discussed this with others untill now.
My family, yes , but only them.
I have read recently of people who have had experiences that are beyond the norm. Trust me this was. I wasn't high on drugs, nor drink, and have never had a history of hallucinating.
I will say, I had asked for a sign, and that this area to me was my place of worship.
Now that i have shared this after so many years, I admit Im anxious about any feedback.
Correction: "....I think the "abomination of desolation" IS when the setting up of the one-world government is completed...."
Jake, are you "out there"? I do have one admission and correction to make: I was wrong about the angels not being created beings, and you were right that they are. Yet Jesus the Christ is the Archangel Michael, not an angel, and not created; but, though I am in the process of looking for it, I have not yet found the Scriptural proof of it.
On the "abomination of desolation", it is my understanding that it is not generally and definitively known what it means; although it is believed that it may have a double fulfillment, both in the Romans destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., and in the near future when it is believed that the Roman Catholic Church will take control of Jerusalem, as their predecessors sacked Jerusalem 1,937 years ago.
Personally, but I am not at this point saying it is in any way definitely the case, I think the "abomination of desolation" when the setting up of the one-world government is completed and the entire planet is completely imprisoned, or just before such that the True Christian remnant will have the chance to obey Matthew 24:15 (/Mark 13:14) and "flee into the mountains".
Have you discovered anything further on the topic(s)?
ONLY True Peace,
Is it just me or has there been some weird articles on prisonplanet recently? I mean Cho was a mind controlled assassin because of brainwashing from video games? No way, people blame video games rather than society and this idiot Jack Thompson does it by using half-baked farces to assist his soapbox crusade.
The other article about who should have guns is a complete joke. I have a very simple answer for that: BAN ALL GUNS!!! I mean too many Americans are afraid to go out without a handgun in their handbag. This is ridiculous...
Adam Kadmon!! Your Freemasons post was great
I call the spammers on this site the Perry Mason gang
like Perry only handled one case per year, the mob of wankers here can only handle one topic per day. So one night they slander Jesus, the next time they want to label 911 truth anti Semitic, read Freddy Fatt
Nice posting Freddie, Ismael Ax & The Sons of Gestapo: Incident at Gila Bend, was a great story and your assertion that George W Bush has an opportunity to be applauded by history by joining the truth revolution, the same way as King Louis of France wore the tricolour of the French Revolution. Has an emotional ring to it, but the Semites are not gonna like anybody sticking their noses into 911.
Odigo is their Achilles Heel and thats where I like to attack
Four thousand Semites failed to show up for work at the WTC on 911, Semites were identified by The Securities and Exchange Commission as investors in massive share trading prior to the event, which returned profits stated to be in the hundreds of millions. Semite controlled websites refute genuine 911 evidence re Wikipedia & The Tourist Guy, and the Air to Ground Missile tape. Semites post trash on forums similar to this which effectively buries hard news.
Next the spammers slander the Freemasons
Adam Kadmon blows their assertions out of the water, so now they are on about laymans quantum mechanics what a mob of trash, and just how many actual spammers are there, one particular wanker has about ten nom de plumes all of which post trash.
Here is a bit from Freddys story, Ismael Ax & The Sons of Gestapo: Incident at Gila Bend
Indictment of the ATF and the FBI
Before dawn the women awoke to say their morning prayers. The women slept upstairs. They lit their kerosene lamps because the electricity had been turned off by the FBI. After observing lights in all the upstairs windows, the FBI ordered the teargas bombardment. Afterwards only two upstairs windows were lit. The location of each was recorded.
Over the next few hours, ventilation holes were poked into the walls. These holes made the fire burn very much faster. Otherwise the fire department would have had time to put out the fire before the women and children died in the flames. At noon the light from the two kerosene lamps was obscured by bright sunlight. Everyone had forgotten about them except the man who carried their locations written on a scrap of paper in his pocket. He ordered the tank drivers where to crash through.
Guess under which two windows. He ordered them to raise their guns. As they backed out, the guns were lowered. The video tape shows clearly the floor being raised by the tank a foot and a half. Guess what happened to the kerosene lamps in the rooms above the tanks. A minute afterwards black smoke started to pour out of the windows where the lamps had burned. This is the normal time needed for a kerosene fire to build up.
Who is policing the ATF, FBI, state troopers, county sheriffs and local police? What federal law enforcement agency investigates each and every choke hold killing committed by a police officer? each and every beating of a drunk whether or not a passerby videotapes it? each and every shooting of a police officer's wife who knows too much about drug kickbacks? each and every killing at Ruby Ridge?
The Gestapo accounts to no one. This is not Nazi Germany. All these people had rights. It is time for an independent Federal agency to police the law enforcement agencies and other government employees.
Sons of the Gestapo SOG
Freddy says the same brain that composed Ismail Ax composed this note
I reckon it was composed by a Jew. It is well known that Jews have a morbid fascination with matters Nazi, since it was during the Nazi regime in Germany that their most vile crimes were committed when they turned upon and gassed their own people. So this missive has references to The Gestapo who were Hitlers secret police, known for their brutality, likely most of them were Jews themselves, like the secret police were in Hungary during that era. The last paragraph has an overt reference to Nazi Germany.
"Who should be allowed to carry guns and who Not"
"This will protect the weak from the tyranny and injustices of the federal government and the super rich. It will make the executives of large businesses more honest knowing that people will rebel against them."
The problem is big brother and big business know that people are sheeple, and will not rebel against them regardless.
They will always excel at presenting being screwed over and a temporary benefit as a package deal, portraying being screwed over as a necessary "trade-off."
(IE, agreeing to screw our troops over in Iraq, in order to achieve "peace and security.")
It's called deception. It's called politics.
http://video.google.it/
videoplay...133218871639946 - Greedy, stupid, blind and ignorant - This enemy can be defeated
to kurt nimmo--
the crimes clinton is party to are crimes shared by nato and the united nations. ALL of them had a hand in these things, as did you and i(did you move out of north america?) also, to list a series of investigations that turned up no evidence as proof of guilt is the mark of facism. turn WHO upside down?
re sane
Of course there is a reason. Are you familiar with Steven E Jones (9/11 scholar)? He did research cold fusion, not too popular with the oil and nuclear industry i´d say, cold fusion would indeed be a holy grail of free energy, but still nothing like zero point. There is also the issue of developing more effective solar, water and wind generated power systems. You must understand that the Oil industry for example does not plan just for tomorrow, they intend to make a lot of money on the decline of oil production, they prices go up and they make the same amount of money in sales but save on logistics, their power also increases of course. Of course energy giants have many reasons to restrict resarch into alternative sources, but zero point energy or anti matter cancellation technology is not the reason. Just the normal ones, solar, wind, water and whatnot. you may have noticed that oil companies are jumping on the hybrid tech and fuel cell bandwagon now, thats because they are beginning to gain political control over the development of the alternatives. Does that explain it?
FREE ENERGY DEBUNKING 101
Brought to you by Exxon/Mobile/BP/Shell
General Debunkery
Before commencing to debunk, prepare your equipment. Equipment needed: one armchair.
Put on the right face. Cultivate a condescending air that suggests that your personal opinions are backed by the full faith and credit of God. Employ vague, subjective, dismissive terms such as ridiculous or trivial in a manner that suggests they have the full force of scientific authority.
Portray science not as an open-ended process of discovery but as a holy war against unruly hordes of quackery-worshipping infidels. Since in war the ends justify the means, you may fudge, stretch or violate the scientific method, or even omit it entirely, in the name of defending the scientific method.
Keep your arguments as abstract and theoretical as possible. This will send the message that accepted theory overrides any actual evidence that might challenge itand that therefore no such evidence is worth examining.
Reinforce the popular misconception that certain subjects are inherently unscientific. In other words, deliberately confuse the process of science with the content of science. (Someone may, of course, object that since science is a universal approach to truth-seeking it must be neutral to subject matter; hence, only the investigative process can be scientifically responsible or irresponsible. If that happens, dismiss such objections using a method employed successfully by generations of politicians: simply reassure everyone that there is no contradiction here!)
Arrange to have your message echoed by persons of authority. The degree to which you can stretch the truth is directly proportional to the prestige of your mouthpiece.
Always refer to unorthodox statements as claims, which are touted, and to your own assertions as facts, which are stated.
Avoid examining the actual evidence. This allows you to say with impunity, I have seen absolutely no evidence to support such ridiculous claims! (Note that this technique has withstood the test of time, and dates back at least to the age of Galileo. By simply refusing to look through his telescope, the ecclesiastical authorities bought the Church over three centuries' worth of denial free and clear!)
If examining the evidence becomes unavoidable, report back that there is nothing new here! If confronted by a watertight body of evidence that has survived the most rigorous tests, simply dismiss it as being too pat.
Equate the necessary skeptical component of science with all of science. Emphasize the narrow, stringent, rigorous and critical elements of science to the exclusion of intuition, inspiration, exploration and integration. If anyone objects, accuse them of viewing science in exclusively fuzzy, subjective or metaphysical terms.
Insist that the progress of science depends on explaining the unknown in terms of the known. In other words, science equals reductionism. You can apply the reductionist approach in any situation by discarding more and more and more evidence until what little is left can finally be explained entirely in terms of established knowledge.
Downplay the fact that free inquiry and legitimate disagreement are a normal part of science.
Make yourself available to media producers who seek balanced reporting of unorthodox views. However, agree to participate in only those interviews whose time constraints and a priori bias preclude such luxuries as discussion, debate and cross-examination.
At every opportunity reinforce the notion that what is familiar is necessarily rational. The unfamiliar is therefore irrational, and consequently inadmissible as evidence.
State categorically that the unconventional may be dismissed as, at best, an honest misinterpretation of the conventional.
Characterize your opponents as uncritical believers. Summarily dismiss the notion that debunkery itself betrays uncritical belief, albeit in the status quo.
Maintain that in investigations of unconventional phenomena, a single flaw invalidates the whole. In conventional contexts, however, you may sagely remind the world that, after all, situations are complex and human beings are imperfect.
Occams Razor, or the principle of parsimony, says the correct explanation of a mystery will usually involve the simplest fundamental principles. Insist, therefore, that the most familiar explanation is by definition the simplest! Imply strongly that Occams Razor is not merely a philosophical rule of thumb but an immutable law.
Discourage any study of history that may reveal todays dogma as yesterdays heresy. Likewise, avoid discussing the many historical, philosophical and spiritual parallels between science and democracy.
Since the public tends to be unclear about the distinction between evidence and proof, do your best to help maintain this murkiness. If absolute proof is lacking, state categorically that there is no evidence!
If sufficient evidence has been presented to warrant further investigation of an unusual phenomenon, argue that evidence alone proves nothing! Ignore the fact that preliminary evidence is not supposed to prove anything.
In any case, imply that proof precedes evidence. This will eliminate the possibility of initiating any meaningful process of investigationparticularly if no criteria of proof have yet been established for the phenomenon in question.
Insist that criteria of proof cannot possibly be established for phenomena that do not exist!
Although science is not supposed to tolerate vague or double standards, always insist that unconventional phenomena must be judged by a separate, yet ill-defined, set of scientific rules. Do this by declaring that extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidencebut take care never to define where the ordinary ends and the extraordinary begins. This will allow you to manufacture an infinitely receding evidential horizon (i.e., to define extraordinary evidence as that which lies just out of reach at any point in time).
In the same manner, insist on classes of evidence that are impossible to obtain. For example, declare that unidentified aerial phenomena may be considered real only if we can bring them into laboratories to strike them with hammers and analyze their physical properties. Disregard the accomplishments of the inferential sciencesastronomy, for example, which gets on just fine without bringing actual planets, stars, galaxies and black holes into its labs and striking them with hammers.
?BREAKING NEWS- JOHN KERRY ADMITS WTC-7 WAS C.D.
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tom | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 4:28 am | #
Yes that is totally kick ass!!!
Your story just does not add up.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:25 am | #
Again, I concede every word if you just answer me that one question you win, I lose. So do you have a reason for keeping energy companies in the pockets of University researchers?
?BREAKING NEWS- JOHN KERRY ADMITS WTC-7 WAS C.D.
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Senator...lled_Demolition
The Control Cult
by Butler Shaffer
What an immense mass of evil must result . . . from allowing men to assume the right of anticipating what may happen. - Leo Tolstoy
In the aftermath of the murders of 32 people at Virginia Tech, we are witnessing the collective reaffirmation of the article of faith uniting all politically-minded persons: the belief that the state is capable of identifying and controlling the factors that produce undesirable behavior. Even before the killer was identified, the chant arose in unison from political chambers, academia, government offices, and the media: there is something that those in authority can do to alleviate such problems. The mantra often finds expression without any break in established meter in this form: we will find out what went wrong and fix it, so that this doesnt happen again.
This mindset is so out of touch with the harsh facts of reality that The Wall Street Journal carried a feature article asking: Next Debate: Should Colleges Ban Firearms? That firearms had been banned on the Virginia Tech campus before these atrocities took place apparently did not inform the judgments of this newspapers editors. Nor have I seen evidence of any rethinking on the part of a Virginia Tech spokesman who, in 2006, following the Virginia legislatures enactment of a ban on guns on state university campuses, declared: Im sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assemblys actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus. This man might send such words of comfort to the families of these 32 victims!
Whatever explanations or remedies various experts offer for the problems that beset mankind, the common thread connecting them is that both human and physical nature are capable of being causally understood and, therefore, subject to interventionist correction. Universities are the temples of faith in this proposition, with students enrolling for their stated purpose of making the world a better place. It is not surprising, therefore, that immediately following these atrocities, the Virginia Tech campus became an attractor for the proponents of this Weltanschauung. If the university had intervened after this man turned in some disturbed writing to his English professor; if we can just control guns; if police had had access to his mental health records beforehand: these were the oft-repeated concerns of those who are convinced that the world is predictable and, hence, controllable. In the latter vein, NBC news anchor, Brian Williams, reportedly vocalized the catechism in proposing a new federal program to monitor the mental health of all college students, in order to prevent occurrences such as this one.
The true believers of the dogmas of control have insinuated themselves into all forms of institutions. Being ends in themselves, and with people serving as little more than resources for organizational purposes, institutions provide a fitting environment for such thinking. Government schools unable to grasp the reality that children are, by nature, self-directed, spontaneous, and exploring people eager to devote their energies to what interests them become upset when their conscripts refuse to suppress their inquisitiveness. The children get labeled hyperactive or suffering from attention deficit disorder (i.e., do not adhere to the teachers prescribed agenda) and must, therefore, have their energies controlled by drugs, counseling, and other behavior modification techniques that squeeze the childhood sense of personally-relevant curiosity from them.
Children grow into adulthood, and go to work for an institutionalized employer who plays this same control game at their expense. The employee finds himself or herself under the thumb of what has got to be the most dehumanizing and vulgar job description anywhere: a human resources manager. For an individual to be labeled as nothing more than a resource what one dictionary defines as an available means is a glaring admission of the victory of institutions over the human spirit!
Members of the control cult have always found themselves attracted to the agency whose raison detre is to subdue all of humanity to its coercive mechanisms of control: the state. What problem, or catastrophe, or even fear thereof, is not met with the aforesaid chant of bureaucrats: we will find out what went wrong and fix it, so it doesnt happen again? And what members of the boobeoisie their minds thoroughly indoctrinated in this mindset do not breathe a collective sigh of relief that their managers are on the job, looking after their well-being? Cho Seung-Hui bought one of his guns on Friday the 13th? Perhaps with psychics explaining the causal connection - gun sales should be banned on such days! Cho Seung-Hui was bullied and teased as a child? Maybe such behavior can be included under hate crime laws and made subject to criminal punishment!
In the months following 9/11, the control freaks came forth with their seemingly endless laundry list of additional mechanisms of control with which they promised to fight the terrorist bogeyman. More police powers to enter peoples homes even without their knowledge; more wiretaps; more surveillance cameras in more places; more x-ray cameras; more background checks; more systems for probing into the human mind for motives and dispositions an area of research now being perfected in England. Any objections offered by the handful of people who see the dangers inherent in police-states were casually dismissed by those who regard all expressions of individual liberty as loopholes to be closed by additional legislation.
Not to be left in the exhaust provided by their war on terror brethren, the global warming denomination mounted the pulpit to preach the sins of human behavior, and to promise existential salvation if only they, too, be given extended control over the human species. Mindless of the incalculable complexities at work within our world a topic I took up in my last article there is an arrogance of omniscience that unites members of the control cult. Whatever the field into which they wish to intrude, they remain convinced that they are capable of marshaling sufficient information that will allow them to create mechanisms to prevent harmful acts and to generate beneficial ones. If, in religious thinking, God is regarded as both omniscient and omnipotent then, in a secular age, such powers must repose elsewhere, namely, in the gods and goddesses of institutional governance.
But recent inquiries into the nature of chaos and complexity are revealing the baseless foundations of this faith in control. Our world including each human being is simply too complex, too subject to a myriad of too many influences over which we can never have sufficient awareness to predict outcomes. If physical and human nature are too complicated to be predictable, the rationale for state control is swept away. To the controllists, the expression of this fact is a heresy that must be exorcised from our thinking.
Those who cling to a faith in their dying secular deity remain convinced that all that is needed to make a complex world more predictable is more information. This is the essence of much of the babbling of tongues disguised as expert analysis in the days following the killings at Virginia Tech. What we tend not to understand is that the more information we possess about anything, the more questions and uncertainties that arise. Albert Einstein understood this quite well in saying that as a circle of light increases, so does the circumference of darkness around it. Bertrand Russell provided the social meaning to this when he declared: The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
But one need not rely on abstract insights to confirm that a complex and unpredictable world cannot be rendered certain by more information. Over many decades, the American government has spent and continues to spend tens of billions of dollars in so-called intelligence agencies, whose functions are to gather as much information as possible on the forces at work within foreign countries and, disturbingly, within America itself. Despite the virtually unrestrained powers enjoyed by such agencies, and the resources put at their disposal to gather information, they have been able to predict almost nothing of major significance. The tearing down of the Berlin Wall, the collapse of the Soviet Union, the events of 9/11, all occurred without any foreknowledge of such agencies. And what of the predictions that American troops would be welcomed by Iraqis as liberators in a slam dunk war that would last only a few weeks? On a more comic level, even knowing that January 1, 2000 was an event certain to happen, the voices of what became known as Y2K uncertainty were all over the lot in trying to predict what consequences, if any, were likely to befall our computer-centered world.
Apostles of the control cult will focus their energies on any area of human activity that provides them the opportunity to advance what is central to their lives: the exercise of coercive power over other people. Whether any given issue involves gun ownership; global warming; discriminatory behavior; tobacco, drug, and alcohol usage; eating habits; educating or raising children; or any other expressions of human action that can be exploited for their purposes, the overall objective remains fixed. There is nothing this crowd fears more than the specter of ordinary people retaining decision-making authority over their own lives.
Those who want control over us have taught us that they if given enough power can protect us from the destructive and murderous rampages of madmen. The Cho Seung-Huis and the Saddam Husseins of our troubled world will
re sane
"Since the early 1900's free energy has not been allowed. That ain't no theory, that is fact."
Bullshit, the closest thing to free energy is solar, and thats not viable.
"A few spaceships ain't gonna allow 10,000 to control billions"
Yes it would, you see unlimited energy contained in a very small space (for instance a dorm room or space ship) would provide basically unlimited power. Power that would make it real simple to install the satellite shield that they actually do want to build. I assume you heard of star wars?
Plant one of those zero energy devices on each satellite and point their energy beams down on earth and start toasting each country you happen to dislike, or use the normal targeting devices used for missiles to shoot individual people or house. You must realize that unlimited energy would make basically anything possible and a satellite shield around the world would be up in less than a year. You say they had this tech for 100 years? Damn boy, you is confused... as soon as the cold war was over they would have thrown up the space iron curtain and started wiping out people, or why not simply use flying saucers when dropping the first bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki? Your story just does not add up.
You do realize that USA doesnt control the whole world right?
Yup, but the ones that control the US control the rest. Since the early 1900's free energy has not been allowed. That ain't no theory, that is fact. The only way to even find out if it does is to remove the veil on our non-military secrets and get the energy companies out of our universities.
I will agree with everything you say every single thing. I am a moron in quantum mechanics and Carr and Tesla were incompetent.
Just tell me why you would have a problem with ensuring unbiased preferences in university research.
re The Amazing Kretzkin
I misread you, sorry about that
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:02 am | #
Sorry, I am addicted. I really had to know...
No prob, dude. Welcome aboard!
Be warned that we have been dealing with a rash of trolls for nearly a month now. There is a lot of fucked up shit going on in here and you have to be careful not getting yourself dragged into it. As you can see from my recent comments, it is sometimes just too difficult not to respond.
You will not find many regulars posting on this page, they have pretty much split over this crap for now. They will be back, though.
NOW I can sleep. Again, welcome aboard!
Case closed, they have no space tech or we would already be wiped out. Get a grip!
re The Amazing Kretzkin
I misread you, sorry about that
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 4:02 am | #
i disagree with the premise of the argument. Project "Prescott's Final Solution" has yet to be ratified (at least the final stage). It has been determined that the fake "war on terror" is not the answer.
Other options - climate change (anyone notice we had the largest tsunami the day after we had the largest gamma ray occurance uin recorded history?
biochem - I don't think they have it perfected yet so that the elites stay alive
alien invasion - discussed earlier
Also there has been much dissent because of chimp boy
But the main thing they want is - no challenge whatsoever.
A few spaceships ain't gonna allow 10,000 to control billions.
More work is being done.
In the Iraq war they are testing microwaves, lasers, DU effects (mainly to see what happens if they decise to press the button).
So they are constantly experimenting to make sure that there will be no option for the masses, and Ed Kennedy is in on it too. That is why he doesn't give a shit about Robert, John, or John Jr.
re sane
You and Gabriel havent got a fucking clue what zero point energy would be, you can even put it in the same category as nuclear energy. You two seem to think it can even be categorized together with fossile fuels. Its a theory, it ´s nothing more and is really unlikely to become anything more. Why? Because if we all had access to that and a Virginia Tech Cho decided to go postal... well he could theoretically collapse the universe. Do you want that? Tesla and Carr may have been inspired thinkers, but their revolutionary ideas never made it through, not because "the government" hides things but simply because their shit doesnt run. You do realize that USA doesnt control the whole world right? You also realize that other countries builds stuff too. Now to think that no one would have picked up on their great ideas (not a single country, even the ones who knew USA would destroy them within a few years (read Iraq)) did not bother to show any of these thechnologies off to the world. Doesnt that tell you something?
"The NWO currently uses technology developed by top scientists using acquired alien technology that could effectively eliminate the need for fossil fuels, and many other underdeveloped ideas we currently are using in primitive forms. They have harnessed magnetics, zero point energy, nuclear energy, solar energy, and hydrogen, and others. We are being kept ignorant and primitive as an effective means of controlling us. By allowing our government to operate in secret behind our backs, and handing over our trust to these power hungry heartless maniacs, we are making the ultimate mistake a peoples government ever could make."
You really drank all the coolaid in the whole conspiracy tank... If they had all this power we would already be 100% enslaved or eliminated. You cant just buy all the theories without coming out as a retard. How do you reconcile dislosure projects "they have zero point energy" with the Georgia Guidestones which calls for the extermination of 90% of the population? simply put you cant... hell even Rockefeller wants to murder us and even so, we are still here. Case closed, they have no space tech or we would already be wiped out. Get a grip!
re The Amazing Kretzkin
I misread you, sorry about that
For real this time, goodnight. I will read your response in the morning.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 3:57 am | #
Must be hard being such a genius and not being able to empty your cup every now and then.
re sane
I assume you are speaking about zero point energy extraction from the quantum space vacuum? Thats a theory that no one is even close to proving, but Steven "soon.. just 8 more years" Greer from the Disclosure Project is pushing it hard. I havent seen any papers published on the topic though. I think we all hope he´s right about it and that their energy project succeeds, but try to get real info on it and not the confused Tesla morons ideas, the people who perpetuate the Tesla myth are usually very confused about what he actually accomplished (basically jack shit) and think that what he was doing with his radio toys was the equivalent of some strange misconception of quantum mechanics. To summarize, zero point energy extraction does not exist as of yet and is unlikely to show up anytime soon. Quantum mechanics is by the way probably the most misunderstood phenomenon on the internet, it almost never affects the world of newtonian physics, which is the reality that humans live in.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 3:38 am | #
Tesla - Carr definitely had the space-time continuum issue dealt with, so if it was zero-point, guess that will work if it has to do with free energy and if he is only 8 years away what makes you think that our 40 year advanced secret technology does not already posses this answer?
re The Amazing Kretzkin
Please elaborate on how the laws of quantum mechanics influnce your daily life, i´m quite sure you can´t find a single example.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 3:51 am | #
Uhh...I didn't disagree with you.... did you mis-read that, or are you just being stupid and argumentative? (or is Sane just posting in your name...inquiring minds want to know.)
For real this time, goodnight. I will read your response in the morning.
Mankind is kept on fossil fuels the way that a dealer keeps his client on heroin.
Fossil fuels are not necessary. The government just keeps us on them because it is a useful control mechanism. It also gives them a good way to wash money. The NWO prints money out of nothing. Money is no longer backed up by metals, it is simply acknowledged and used as a medium of exchange. In order to keep up the appearance of things, oil is used to divert our attention from other things, and provide convenient explanations to divert us from reality.
The NWO does not need the money they make from oil profits. The oil profits are useful, in the way that they keep us addicted, and our attentions diverted. It is a public ruse. The NWO prints the worlds money, controls the rise and fall of the economics of the nations at will, and uses the money to finance world wide black operations. The official Space program is a ruse, and a means to funnel vast amounts of money to the real agendas. The drug market is also controlled and monopolized to drive up drug profits, bribe, blackmail, and fund the real agendas.
The NWO currently uses technology developed by top scientists using acquired alien technology that could effectively eliminate the need for fossil fuels, and many other underdeveloped ideas we currently are using in primitive forms. They have harnessed magnetics, zero point energy, nuclear energy, solar energy, and hydrogen, and others. We are being kept ignorant and primitive as an effective means of controlling us. By allowing our government to operate in secret behind our backs, and handing over our trust to these power hungry heartless maniacs, we are making the ultimate mistake a peoples government ever could make.
re The Amazing Kretzkin
Please elaborate on how the laws of quantum mechanics influnce your daily life, i´m quite sure you can´t find a single example.
Man, I'm getting tired. My spelling is just getting horrible.
Goodnight everyone.
I admit it. Where exactly did I deny that it was "possible?" Because I said your statements are asinine? How come you are not so unbelievably wealthy or dead if you got it all figured out? Fucking retard.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 3:31 am | #
I procrastinate too much
Quantum mechanics is by the way probably the most misunderstood phenomenon on the internet, it almost never affects the world of newtonian physics, which is the reality that humans live in.
ak48 | 04.23.07 - 3:38 am | #
Which he quite clearly does not have even a rudimentary grasp on either. I think he is just hoping he can go over the head of someone by spouting random, unconnected information that most would have a hard time grasping and just loose them. But he is under-estimating who he is dealing with here.
Go play with the other kids on the short bus, Sane!
All forms of heat production and friction would have to be totally>>>>> eliminated!
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 3:31 am | #
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The object Carr build followed the same aerodynamics possibilities seen in this ufo circling the concorde (no heat, no friction, just magnetic pull-in a seperate enrgy field):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h?
v=c7BWi7oB4P0
Interview with Ring about the spaceship
http://video.google.com/videopla...250106132800&
q=
Pleanty of diagrams
http://www.keelynet.com/davidson...idson/
npap1.htm
http://www.projectcamelot.net/
ra...ralph_ring.html
http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/...avity/
carr3.htm
...and one day is 12 hours,
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 3:28 am | #
Grrr!! Fight the urge to sleep!!!
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 3:35 am | #
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yeah! I think I'm going to go check my mail then hit it. Take care EVERYONE! good night. Thanks for all yout time and your sharing.
I hate Penn and Teller (they don't believe 9/11 Truth), but they got it right on Gun Control.
http://www.youtube.com/results?s...l& search=Search
TimM | 04.23.07 - 3:33 am | #
Well, they are trying to appeal to the "conservatives" you have to give them something. You mention gun control is good, you completely loose that audience. The "conservatives" still believe it is only the democrats that believe 911 was an inside job. They are brainwashed into thinking it is just a partisan poltical issue.
re sane
I assume you are speaking about zero point energy extraction from the quantum space vacuum? Thats a theory that no one is even close to proving, but Steven "soon.. just 8 more years" Greer from the Disclosure Project is pushing it hard. I havent seen any papers published on the topic though. I think we all hope he´s right about it and that their energy project succeeds, but try to get real info on it and not the confused Tesla morons ideas, the people who perpetuate the Tesla myth are usually very confused about what he actually accomplished (basically jack shit) and think that what he was doing with his radio toys was the equivalent of some strange misconception of quantum mechanics. To summarize, zero point energy extraction does not exist as of yet and is unlikely to show up anytime soon. Quantum mechanics is by the way probably the most misunderstood phenomenon on the internet, it almost never affects the world of newtonian physics, which is the reality that humans live in.
...and one day is 12 hours,
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 3:28 am | #
Grrr!! Fight the urge to sleep!!!
I hate Penn and Teller (they don't believe 9/11 Truth), but they got it right on Gun Control.
http://www.youtube.com/results?s...l&
search=Search
Dude, just admit that you have no idea if free energy is possible.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 3:26 am | #
OK....
I admit it. Where exactly did I deny that it was "possible?" Because I said your statements are asinine? How come you are not so unbelievably wealthy or dead if you got it all figured out? Fucking retard.
I'm starting to see a pattern. There's always some from of degradation in all cycles of energy tranfer that eventuall y end in 0.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 3:20 am | #
OK either you see this as bullshit or I don't know what to think.
That is a scientific law and principle established before much work in quantum physics and even if absolutely true, the amount of untapped energy on the Earth is mind blowing and thus would still follow this law. Stop big energy from preventing research and the masses will have free energy guaranfuckinteed.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 3:23 am | #
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Sane? Even if the Water guys car is a shining example of free energy? The hydrogen in the water that is available to react on will eventually run out.
To truly have a self sustaining system. All forms of heat production and friction would have to be totally>>>>> eliminated!
I'm starting to see a pattern. There's always some from of degradation in all cycles of energy tranfer that eventuall y end in 0.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 3:20 am | #
Yes, at least in all physics understood so far. There is always room for discovery, but first it means you have to understand all the factors involved and why they DON'T work.
Only then can a solution be found, if there is one (and there probably is.)
Sane has one (probably unintended) nugget of truth in his statements. We are dealing with empiracle science here. By claiming empiracly (sp?) that one foot is 12 inches and one day is 12 hours, we have set limits that do impede our ability to understand things more complex. But right now, it is the best we can do.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 3:12 am | #
Calling you Sane is like calling a fat guy, Slim.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 3:22 am | #
Yup, debunking 101 same as the 911 truth debunkers, call em crazy, insane...
Dude, just admit that you have no idea if free energy is possible. Your defenses are so simple I have already provided them for you and you have not deviated once.
I'm starting to see a pattern. There's always some from of degradation in all cycles of energy tranfer that eventuall y end in 0.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 3:20 am | #
OK either you see this as bullshit or I don't know what to think.
That is a scientific law and principle established before much work in quantum physics and even if absolutely true, the amount of untapped energy on the Earth is mind blowing and thus would still follow this law. Stop big energy from preventing research and the masses will have free energy guaranfuckinteed.
Timm.
There is much debate and mystery surrounding the UFO topic. Besides myself personally witnessing one, other aquaintances, family, and friends of mine have too. And apparently Sara saw something, but she didn't go into it too deeply.
When my mom, who just retired from the Oregonian newspaper after 30 years, was 13 years old, she was out playing in the woods. She said a large barrel like object- which made absolutely no sound- flew over to where she was, and stopped almost directly over her. It was about 60 feet or so off of the ground, just hovering silently. She said a hole just appeared in the bottom of the craft, and a strange pale blueish shaft of light struck the ground. A human looking man descended slowly downward on the light. He was staring at her, and she said he was sending telepathic messages into her mind. He sent her an overwhelming feeling that everything was going to be alright, and that the Earth was being watched over. She asked him a few questions, and conferred with him telepathically. And then he ascended back into the craft. The craft then rose and began to move slowly toward the west, and then accelerated quickly to phenomenal speed heading northwest at a sharp incline up in to the sky, never making a sound. She called the Army, and some other people, but they just told her not to worry and go back out and play. She has never made any money off of this story, or has tried to. I told her she needs to put it in a book, or put it on video google or you tube or something.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 3:12 am | #
Calling you Sane is like calling a fat guy, Slim.
Man My typing sucks. LOL
Also keep in mind that on a slope, you are not working entirely on gravity, only free-fall would have max and absolute gravity in one direction.
This is called gravitational potential energy, which says that GravityPE=mass x gravity x height. And this formula only works in an ideal world, which is probably somewhere on Sane's simplistic planet (sorry couldn't resist the humor.)
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 3:14 am | #
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I'm starting to see a pattern. There's always some from of degradation in all cycles of energy tranfer that eventuall y end in 0.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 3:08 am | #
I have to admit, you are pretty amusing! You put a lot of effort in your bullshit. I at least you give you props for that.
Thanks, I appreciate the laughs today.
yeah? Like. I could be standing on top of a hill right? Roll a tire down it with just a little shove but it will eventually stop moving because it will run out of energy that it has sustained of and in itself from the action of rolling by gravity afflicted on its weight and shape.
Now we move to real energy as the source which
cannot be physically grasped. It's complex.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 2:58 am | #
Interesting example. If the slope were indefinite, the tire would keep rolling. Speed may vary at places due to whatever physical friction is involved. This would eventually wear the tire down which would affect its weight and shape, which would ultimately stop when the tire has disintegrated to the point that the mechanical friction is greater tha the force of gravity.
Also keep in mind that on a slope, you are not working entirely on gravity, only free-fall would have max and absolute gravity in one direction.
This is called gravitational potential energy, which says that GravityPE=mass x gravity x height. And this formula only works in an ideal world, which is probably somewhere on Sane's simplistic planet (sorry couldn't resist the humor.)
One only need look at a star in process. It is self sustaining yet they all burn out eventually.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 3:07 am | #
They burn out and they are born, but the energy in each one is infinite for our purposes.
Man, first I have to out the Zionist conspiracy theorists, then the mind control distractors and now the free energy debunkers. How many fucking people are my taxes paying for to work on Project D?
http://www.infinite-energy.com/
i...mplearticle.pdf
Sorry The Amazing Kretzkin but your arguments follow
FREE ENERGY DEBUNKING 101
Brought to you by Exxon/Mobile/BP/Shell
General Debunkery
Before commencing to debunk, prepare your equipment. Equipment needed: one armchair.
Put on the right face. Cultivate a condescending air that suggests that your personal opinions are backed by the full faith and credit of God. Employ vague, subjective, dismissive terms such as ridiculous or trivial in a manner that suggests they have the full force of scientific authority.
Portray science not as an open-ended process of discovery but as a holy war against unruly hordes of quackery-worshipping infidels. Since in war the ends justify the means, you may fudge, stretch or violate the scientific method, or even omit it entirely, in the name of defending the scientific method.
Keep your arguments as abstract and theoretical as possible. This will send the message that accepted theory overrides any actual evidence that might challenge itand that therefore no such evidence is worth examining.
Reinforce the popular misconception that certain subjects are inherently unscientific. In other words, deliberately confuse the process of science with the content of science. (Someone may, of course, object that since science is a universal approach to truth-seeking it must be neutral to subject matter; hence, only the investigative process can be scientifically responsible or irresponsible. If that happens, dismiss such objections using a method employed successfully by generations of politicians: simply reassure everyone that there is no contradiction here!)
Arrange to have your message echoed by persons of authority. The degree to which you can stretch the truth is directly proportional to the prestige of your mouthpiece.
Always refer to unorthodox statements as claims, which are touted, and to your own assertions as facts, which are stated.
Avoid examining the actual evidence. This allows you to say with impunity, I have seen absolutely no evidence to support such ridiculous claims! (Note that this technique has withstood the test of time, and dates back at least to the age of Galileo. By simply refusing to look through his telescope, the ecclesiastical authorities bought the Church over three centuries' worth of denial free and clear!)
If examining the evidence becomes unavoidable, report back that there is nothing new here! If confronted by a watertight body of evidence that has survived the most rigorous tests, simply dismiss it as being too pat.
Equate the necessary skeptical component of science with all of science. Emphasize the narrow, stringent, rigorous and critical elements of science to the exclusion of intuition, inspiration, exploration and integration. If anyone objects, accuse them of viewing science in exclusively fuzzy, subjective or metaphysical terms.
Insist that the progress of science depends on explaining the unknown in terms of the known. In other words, science equals reductionism. You can apply the reductionist approach in any situation by discarding more and more and more evidence until what little is left can finally be explained entirely in terms of established knowledge.
Downplay the fact that free inquiry and legitimate disagreement are a normal part of science.
Make yourself available to media producers who seek balanced reporting of unorthodox views. However, agree to participate in only those interviews whose time constraints and a priori bias preclude such luxuries as discussion, debate and cross-examination.
At every opportunity reinforce the notion that what is familiar is necessarily rational. The unfamiliar is therefore irrational, and consequently inadmissible as evidence.
State categorically that the unconventional may be dismissed as, at best, an honest misinterpretation of the conventional.
Characterize your opponents as uncritical believers. Summarily dismiss the notion that debunkery itself betrays uncritical belief, albeit in the status quo.
Maintain that in investigations of unconventional phenomena, a single flaw invalidates the whole. In conventional contexts, however, you may sagely remind the world that, after all, situations are complex and human beings are imperfect.
Occams Razor, or the principle of parsimony, says the correct explanation of a mystery will usually involve the simplest fundamental principles. Insist, therefore, that the most familiar explanation is by definition the simplest! Imply strongly that Occams Razor is not merely a philosophical rule of thumb but an immutable law.
Discourage any study of history that may reveal todays dogma as yesterdays heresy. Likewise, avoid discussing the many historical, philosophical and spiritual parallels between science and democracy.
Since the public tends to be unclear about the distinction between evidence and proof, do your best to help maintain this murkiness. If absolute proof is lacking, state categorically that there is no evidence!
If sufficient evidence has been presented to warrant further investigation of an unusual phenomenon, argue that evidence alone proves nothing! Ignore the fact that preliminary evidence is not supposed to prove anything.
In any case, imply that proof precedes evidence. This will eliminate the possibility of initiating any meaningful process of investigationparticularly if no criteria of proof have yet been established for the phenomenon in question.
Insist that criteria of proof cannot possibly be established for phenomena that do not exist!
Although science is not supposed to tolerate vague or double standards, always insist that unconventional phenomena must be judged by a separate, yet ill-defined, set of scientific rules. Do this by declaring that extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidencebut take care never to define where the ordinary ends and the extraordinary begins. This will allow you to manufacture an infinitely receding evidential horizon (i.e., to define extraordinary evidence as that which lies just out of reach at any point in time).
In the same manner, insist on classes of evidence that are impossible to obtain. For example, declare that unidentified aerial phenomena may be considered real only if we can bring them into laboratories to strike them with hammers and analyze their physical properties. Disregard the accomplishments of the inferential sciencesastronomy, for example, which gets on just fine without bringing actual planets, stars, galaxies and black holes into its labs and striking them with hammers.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 3:02 am | #
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One only need look at a star in process. It is self sustaining yet they all burn out eventually.
Heat energy loss??? What about heat energy gain??? Friction, what about the friction that can cause more energy????
Is it possible for you to refute this?
http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e...g/e- magnet.html
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 2:42 am | #
Your statements are asinine. If I went through a great deal of trouble to "refute" that, would it really convince you of ANYTHING? I am not going to waste my energy trying to refute anything with you, when there is absolutely zero chance of of you developing reasoning and intelligence at this point. You have already demonstrated that you will simply dismiss whatever doesn't fit what you believe. So, you are off in your own little world, with its own physics and its own reality.
Sorry, I cannot, nor want to join you there.
Please stop responding to me. I am not interested in talking to you any further.
You can throw your arguments to NewConst, he has expressed his interest. I have given up on you.
I am not trying to "compete" with you. I am interested in discussing this with Newconst. He is free to accept and look into whatever you claim. I already know what you say is bullshit, so I don't need to "look into" what you say, and if you are stupid enough to believe it, your are too stupid to understand my explanations.
Not interested. Closed door. Not going to get ANYWHERE with me. Give up on me, too, OK? Talk to Newconst.
Immense private wealth exists in this society. Our task is to find the most imaginative and powerful ways to sound the alarm, demonstrate viable energy options, and enlist private resources to get the job done.
http://www.infinite-energy.com/ i...apitolhill.html
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 2:55 am | #
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Much of this Emmense wealth has been created out of thin air. With little or no real input of work.
Not sure how that fit in response, exactly, but your understanding of his concept is correct.
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yeah? Like. I could be standing on top of a hill right? Roll a tire down it with just a little shove but it will eventually stop moving because it will run out of energy that it has sustained of and in itself from the action of rolling by gravity afflicted on its weight and shape.
Now we move to real energy as the source which
cannot be physically grasped. It's complex.
A Report from Capitol Hill
Stephen Kaplan
From January 9 to February 14, 2007, I worked in Washington, D.C. on behalf of the New Energy Movement (NEM) to educate Congressional aides about the realities of new energy R&D and our legislative initiative to increase support for the field. I brought to this task years of experience in public policy-making, which included serving as a legislative aide for former Senator Gaylord Nelson of Wisconsin, one of the early pioneers in the environmental movement. What follows is my report on what occurred, what was and was not achieved, and what needs to be done in the future.
First, a few words of introduction to set the background and context for the trip. For some time it has been clear to all working in the new energy field that progress has been impeded by the lack of capital from both private and public sources. There has been an ongoing effort to raise private capital. To launch a public initiative, the leadership of NEM, working with other leaders in the new energy field, drafted the Energy Innovation Act of 2007 (see IE #71 and www.newenergymovement.org), which sets up an Office of Energy Innovation with a mandate to provide grants and loan guarantees to new energy scientists and inventors. The bill provided for a citizen review process to ensure that the intent of the proposed law was fully achieved.
I was assisted in this work by a number of NEMs scientific advisors, including board member Dr. Tom Valone, President of Integrity Research Institute and convener of two pioneering future energy conferences, and two authorities on cold fusion research, Dr. Scott Chubb, an editor at Infinite Energy, and Dr. David Nagel, an engineering professor at George Washington University who once headed a cold fusion research program conducted by the Naval Research Laboratory. I also received invaluable assistance from Joel Garbon, NEM President, and Eleanor LeCain, a veteran consultant in Washington, D.C.
Briefings were provided to legislative aides working for the following members of Congress or Congressional Committees:
Senators: Barbara Boxer, Maria Cantwell, Orrin Hatch, John McCain, Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, Gordon Smith, Ron Wyden
Representatives: David Wu
Committees: House Committee on Science and Technology, Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources, Senate Committee on the Environment and Public Works
In addition, background papers were distributed to aides who could not attend the group briefing sponsored by the Senate Environment Committee. These aides worked for Representatives Pelosi, Inslee, and Bartlett and Senators Domenici and Lautenberg.
The typical briefing included a brief introduction to the New Energy Movement by me followed by PowerPoint presentations on global warming and new energy innovations by Tom Valone and on the history and current status of cold fusion research by Scott Chubb.
Joel Garbon and I had in-depth conversations about the NEM legislative proposal with legislative aides working for Congressman Dennis Kucinich and Senator Maria Cantwell. We also had one meeting with Congressman Dennis Kucinich. We focused on the need to provide support for research and development for a broad range of unconventional energy technologies.
Although our views were heard, we did not end up with the same perspective on what was needed and the kind of legislation that deserved support. In the case of Congressman Kucinich, he was insistent that the new legislation he wanted to sponsor must be technology neutral. By that he meant that it would provide support for the entire range of alternative energy, not just unconventional alternative energy.
Senator Maria Cantwell has introduced energy legislation which sets up an Office of Advanced Research (Sec.501) very similar in concept and intent to our proposed Office of Energy Innovation. Amit Ronen, Senator Cantwells energy assistant, listened openly and respectfully to our ideas about Sec.501. However, he did not agree with us that the new office should not be placed in the Department of Energy. He also did not reveal which of our ideas, if any, would be incorporated in the final version of Section 501.
To sum up, we were heard by those who help frame the energy laws of our nation, and we laid a foundation for further work on the Hill toward getting new energy a place at the legislative table. Still, very few on the Hill have any knowledge or understanding regarding new energy. Therefore, our major objective in the future should be to advocate more forcefully that spokespeople for our still little-known or understood field be given a chance to be heard at future hearings to be held by Congressional committees dealing with global climate change and energy issues.
I believe that the case for our participation in future hearings was made and heard most successfully in conversations with the staff members at the Senate Environment Committee and the Senate Energy Committee. We need to follow-up with more efforts to reach and educate additional members of Congress and their aides, possibly through events of various kinds (conferences, demonstrations of devices, etc.) we can conduct with allies in the D.C. area.
Some of our colleagues have been arguing we need to attempt to get funding for new energy through earmarked appropriations. This would be a quicker way to secure resources than the normal process of legislation. While there is much to be said for this option, currently there is a negative atmosphere in Congress regarding earmarks, and more members of Congress are opposed to this traditional pork barrel way of money raising. Every legislative aide with whom I discussed earmarking said the likelihood of this being a viable option was near zero.
Of course, pork will still be dished out in this and future sessions of Congress. However, the chances of it being used to obtain funding for a completely new program without an established funding location is highly unlikely. Moreover, given the record and attitude of some of the potential locations for such earmarks, such as the Department of Energy, it is not clear how valuable it would be to send earmarked or directed money to agencies whose commitment to spend the money on new energy is so questionable.
Some brief summary impressions: I came to D.C. with no illusions that it would be easy to get proposed legislation on new energy considered by the staffs of our lawmakers. As I originally assumed, it is clear that far too few on the Hill are even aware that potentially viable unconventional energy technologies exist. Even under the best of circumstances, getting any new legislation passed is a challenging task, and the process takes a long time. Given the close divide between Democrats and Republicans, the persistent opposition from the advocates of conventional energy technologies, and the ever present threat of veto from President Bush, the likelihood of major energy legislation being passed this session of Congress is very slim. I dont expect to see much progress until after a new President is elected in 2008. Given this reality, the friends of new energy can be pleased that the work we have done thus far has paved the way for future Congressional consideration of new energy legislation.
Considering the global energy challenges we are facing, any rational government would launch Manhattan or Apollo Project scale projects to find energy technologies to replace our suicidal dependence on fossil fuels and nuclear power. There is little indication that this will be done soon. Therefore, we need to push forward in our effort to raise capital and other forms of material support for new energy from the private sector.
Immense private wealth exists in this society. Our task is to find the most imaginative and powerful ways to sound the alarm, demonstrate viable energy options, and enlist private resources to get the job done.
http://www.infinite-energy.com/
i...apitolhill.html
As 4 the article, 2 wrongs don't make a right, as*hole! It's hypocritical of U 2 claim the rich should B defenseless. U sound like a commie.
OMG | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 2:42 am | #
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The rich defenseless? What a Joke. Like? Have the Rich ever fought their own wars? NO!
They're to busy being important. Pffft! Sucking on their cuban dick cigars and drinking Bourbon and being child pedophile party chasers. While proclaiming to be the Masters of the Universe.
And acting more like Commies than the common people. Self indulgent PHUCKS!
That's what the Water car guy was concentrating on wasn't he? Electrolisis? To ionise amd excite the hydrogen from the water molecules, to produce hydrogen with very little imput?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 2:41 am | #
Not sure how that fit in response, exactly, but your understanding of his concept is correct.
I agree, Gabe, it's hard to confirm that Cooper thing. The thing is, it's on his own website, which I assume is still run by his friends. Who knows.
Live firefight in Iraq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h?
v=Bz8j6vo74BA
Anyone that believes the US ili mans BS that the USA couldn't produce enough of its own oil is ignorant. I donot for 1 second belive that a land mass the size of Texas. the Gulf of Mexico, Alaska, Ohklahoma,Illinois, Indianna, California, etc. Doesn't produce more Oil than TINY Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Iran combined!
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 2:37 am | #
Read Greg Palast - BBC Journalist for over 20 year.
He discovered why we fight for the foreign oil. It is not to get the oil it is to control the overall flow. We can set the price, oligopoly.
So it is not American blood for oil, it is american blood for the artificial prevention of normal oil pricing. We got oil from Iraq at a cheaper price before the fucking invasion:
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
And that's why there's always heat in energy transfer.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 2:44 am | #
Yes. But heat is not always the biggest form of loss, just the most easily detectable. But, yes, heat will always be present.
Here's an example of friction (the result not the process, sorry):
Let's say you take a piece of black mica film. You shoot a laser beam (or really any light source, but the laser will make things more predictable) at it. The mica, since it is black, will absorb most of the light's photonic energy. In doing so, the laser is exerting force on the mica and it will actually repel (slightly, but measurably.) The lights photonic energy is transferred to mechanical energy. It will exhibit an equal but opposite reaction. By pulsing the laser on and off, you can get the mica to vibrate. At the resonate frequency, you will get the greatest amplitude. It may even be visibly vibrating at this point.
By the way, this is how a photonic weapon is done.
No gravity is ONE of the forces, not the cause of the others. Friction is the process of transferring one form of energy into another. Like heat into electricity, electricity into heat (thermodynamics), light into electricity, electricity into light....etc...
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 2:40 am | #
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And that's why there's always heat in energy transfer.
Timm.
I read through the "Cooper" confession. For one thing, Cooper always made video presentations of important findings. I can't imagine him not making a video of this supposed "discovery" in 1997, 4 full years before his murder. Further more, they didn't even bother to forge his signature. Further more, the supposed confession is typed- not hand written, and therefore cannot be validated. Also, the bulk of my investigations do not even center around Cooper, and there is vast amounts of evidence to support UFO reality. Until more credible information is produced regarding this, it belongs in the ever growing disinformation file as a tribute to the US governments grand smoke & mirrors show.
Multiple witnesses, including local small town police forces, have literally chased UFO's that were estimated to be well over a mile in size. And millions of other credible reports that defy belief, and denote a level of technology that is literally thousands of years ahead of us. We were in horse drawn wagons only 100 years ago. And ancient cultures also depict UFO's and aliens in written accounts, and architecture. There are far too many credible witnesses, many from within the US government who have broken their silence just prior to their deaths from old age. I am afraid that my 20 years of research into the matter only furthers to convince me of the reality of non-terrestrial activity. And for the record, if you watch all of Coopers video presentations, in one of them he describes a UFO that he personally witnessed at sea that could not possibly have been man made. Until you can produce an authenticated note in Coopers own validated handwriting, or a taped video confession from Cooper, I am afraid this is just another X-File.
Heat energy loss??? What about heat energy gain??? Friction, what about the friction that can cause more energy????
Is it possible for you to refute this?
http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e...g/e-
magnet.html
This is the most useless blog I've ever seen! Effin' megabyte size page, zillion lines long - make a real blog where cuts into pages U wankers!
Like N E 1 will even C this comment, 'cuz yer' page takes so effin' long 2 load, everybody closes the browser but maybe 2% of the geeks who wait (like me )
As 4 the article, 2 wrongs don't make a right, as*hole! It's hypocritical of U 2 claim the rich should B defenseless. U sound like a commie.
Honestly, the closest in theory I have seen is Tesla's work with the standing wave. Look up Schumann's resonance and ignore all the wacko hits you will get. Just focus on the theory and the measured frequency (8.37 hertz I believe without looking it up again.)
And contrary to the loonies responding to you light, sound, and heat all are magnetic. That is why they call it the electromagnetic spectrum. The two main domains are electric (atomic) current and magnetic current. These two domains are perpendicular to each other. They are expressed in magnitude and amplitude.
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That's what the Water car guy was concentrating on wasn't he? Electrolisis? To ionise amd excite the hydrogen from the water molecules, to produce hydrogen with very little imput?
Yes any form of resistance that is created by Gravity, in other words?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 2:32 am | #
No gravity is ONE of the forces, not the cause of the others. Friction is the process of transferring one form of energy into another. Like heat into electricity, electricity into heat (thermodynamics), light into electricity, electricity into light....etc...
Please tell me where I do not follow logic, intuition, or empirical evidence?
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 2:32 am | #
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I'm not saying you are not. Keep Plugging at it. The more people we have working on the idea of independence. the better we'll be. Like?
Anyone that believes the US ili mans BS that the USA couldn't produce enough of its own oil is ignorant. I donot for 1 second belive that a land mass the size of Texas. the Gulf of Mexico, Alaska, Ohklahoma,Illinois, Indianna, California, etc. Doesn't produce more Oil than TINY Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Iran combined!
Keep it going. You are not hurting my feelings bud. I can take constructive critisim like a Man. ; O )
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 2:28 am | #
I know. Just wanted to be sure you didn't think I was trying to shoot you down. I would love for someone to come up with something. I have worked through MANY experiments myself.
Honestly, the closest in theory I have seen is Tesla's work with the standing wave. Look up Schumann's resonance and ignore all the wacko hits you will get. Just focus on the theory and the measured frequency (8.37 hertz I believe without looking it up again.)
And contrary to the loonies responding to you light, sound, and heat all are magnetic. That is why they call it the electromagnetic spectrum. The two main domains are electric (atomic) current and magnetic current. These two domains are perpendicular to each other. They are expressed in magnitude and amplitude.
Well, boys, we know there are nuclear drills this week. Now theres propaganda that Al-CIA-da is planning a "big attack". Maybe were gonna see nuclear action in the next few days. God be with all of us if this is the case.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
tol...icle1687360.ece
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ind...&
articleId=5444
Why all the fuss about UFO's?
One [of several] I saw was punching in and out, but couldn't stabilize itself. Your right about the self contained liquid nitro. The cloud it was in kept blossoming then folded in. On it's third attempt i caught a glimpse of a football shaped object. It was molten red, but then shifted to a blinding white phophoresce, which told me it uses layers of magnesium and other elements, to be honest , I couldn't really give a shit about. A crash peice some guy had tested from area 51 , showed it would be impossible to duplicate.
yes. But unfortunately heat is not the only form of friction involved. You have mechanical friction, gravity, atomic, etc....
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 2:30 am | #
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Yes any form of resistance that is created by Gravity, in other words?
Free energy exists and always had. It follows all laws of conservation of energy (the law you think debunks it). You keep saying you need energy to make energy, there is no doubt about it. But the energy on the earth is enough to power every car x 1,000,000.
The problem is taping into natural energy and the energy companies have an oligopoly that stop any research in this because they would be over/done.
We have on this planet an unlimited source of air, wate, foor, and energy.
NWO has taken the energy and convinced us we need it from them, they are taking the food and water and will soon take the air.
Please tell me where I do not follow logic, intuition, or empirical evidence?
Yep. heat energy loss! You have to over come this to make a self sustaining energy system. Or remove it completely from thee equation. Right?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 2:26 am | #
yes. But unfortunately heat is not the only form of friction involved. You have mechanical friction, gravity, atomic, etc....
Again, I am not trying to discourage you, just keeping you thinking and understanding how complex the problem really is and why it has so far not worked.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 2:24 am | #
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Keep it going. You are not hurting my feelings bud. I can take constructive critisim like a Man. ; O )
BTW, I gave you a key word there. "Closed-loop system." For any perpetual energy device, this is how it must be. There is a great deal of science (though it will seem unrelated, the physics involved are nearly always transferable.)
But it doesn't because each time the energy generated is used by the actuator, it looses some. It is absorbed and transferred to another form of energy. Each time, the actuator moves slower, and in turn causes the generator to output less current, and the slope of energy input to energy out just continues downward.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 2:21 am | #
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Yep. heat energy loss! You have to over come this to make a self sustaining energy system. Or remove it completely from thee equation. Right?
Yep! I was thinking liquid nitrogen. self contained
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 2:18 am | #
And where will you get this endless supply of compressed liquid nitrogen without spending energy to get it?
Again, I am not trying to discourage you, just keeping you thinking and understanding how complex the problem really is and why it has so far not worked.
Of course it's real.
It works too. One look at Bush and the major American populace that can relate to his IQ levels is proof of that.
Finger bang | 04.23.07 - 2:20 am | #
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You sound like someone who is blind and is just angry looking to lash out at anyone that will take your crap.
It's easy to blame yet tough to except responsibility for your own actions.
Look in the mirror. Ask yourself honestly if you've EVEr done something to hurt someone else? If you say no? You need to go see a docter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h?
v=cqi5F5MqqTQ
MK Ultra chilrens cartoon in US
Alright, here's another example that sounds reasonable intuitively, but will not work in reality:
A motor can both be an actuator and a generator. Let say you connect two motor shafts together, with the wires from both connected together. Intuitively, you would think the motion of the one motor would generate electricity in the other, which would feed the actuator motor. of course you would need to kick start it to get it going, maybe pulse it every once in a while to keep it going, but it should pretty much be self-sufficient right? It is a closed loop system.
But it doesn't because each time the energy generated is used by the actuator, it looses some. It is absorbed and transferred to another form of energy. Each time, the actuator moves slower, and in turn causes the generator to output less current, and the slope of energy input to energy out just continues downward.
Of course it's real.
It works too. One look at Bush and the major American populace that can relate to his IQ levels is proof of that.
Hey finger Bang? You friggen Moe Moe!
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/
Here's three more good Diggs. The last one made it to the front page!
http://digg.com/politics/ New_Yor...1_as_Inside_Job
http://digg.com/world_news/ Nucle..._23_to_April_27
http://digg.com/ political_opinio...lex_behind_wars
TimM | 04.23.07 - 1:56 am | #
Nice digs, I have been familiar with them. The guy who made thee last one is fucking awesome. You have to see his documentary of choildren watching TV. It has zero production costs, just a camera pointing at the face of children watching TV. Anyone with knowledge knows that while watching they are under complete control and are emotionally effected at a subconscious level from what they are watching. Pretty scary but very informative.
I am trying to find it. Our black ops (black ops-ISI-Al Q) are creating MK Ultra type cartoons for islamic fundamentalist kids today.
Now, you are seeing how quickly it gets complex! Where are you going to get the energy to cool it down?
Does it make sense what I am saying here? Each time you need to overcome a shortfall in the system, you need to add energy from some other source to stabilize the system.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 2:15 am | #
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Yep! I was thinking liquid nitrogen. self contained
Tesla, yeah, yeah, he's the guy the government stole all his plans from and like made HARRP. Yeah, that's it. Even Newt Gingerbitch thought it could be used to alter America's minds and thinking patterns. Man they must have that sucker cranked to fucking [super stupid] mode.
I hear it goes to 11.
Finger bang | 04.23.07 - 2:05 am | #
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Hey MOE MOE?
HAARP is real.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 2:06 am | #
I'm wondering if I am using my soucre energy and amplifying it to sustain. You could keep your amplifying instrument cooled some how.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 2:11 am | #
Now, you are seeing how quickly it gets complex! Where are you going to get the energy to cool it down?
Does it make sense what I am saying here? Each time you need to overcome a shortfall in the system, you need to add energy from some other source to stabilize the system.
Since when is pointing to a link and tearing down an absurd anoalogy fighting? Did you read any of the scientific research? I think most people here are aware that our govt has been preventing alternative energy for some time. Saying that it won't work based on outlandish unscientific theories only assists the problem and keeps us in need. The world has everything any individual needs and elites are systematically destroying it so that scarcity will keep us as slaves.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 2:06 am | #
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yeah like the water powered Car guy? OOOps! He just died all of a sudden because........?
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 2:06 am | #
I'm wondering if I am using my soucre energy and amplifying it to sustain. You could keep your amplifying instrument cooled some how.
Only AEI would try to do the Tesla/Gingrich connection, thanks for the chuckle. I think I would rather find out more from the following person than wild speculation and baseless theories:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nik...ki/
Nikola_Tesla
Nikola Tesla (Serbian Cyrillic: Никола Тесла (10 July 1856 - 7 January 1943[2]) was a world-renowned inventor, physicist, mechanical engineer and electrical engineer. He was born an ethnic Serb citizen of the Austrian Empire and later became an American citizen. Tesla is best known for his revolutionary work in, and numerous contributions to, the discipline of electricity and magnetism in the late 19th and early 20th century. Tesla's patents and theoretical work formed the basis of modern alternating current electric power (AC) systems, including the polyphase power distribution systems and the AC motor, with which he helped usher in the Second Industrial Revolution.
After his demonstration of wireless communication in 1893 and after being the victor in the "War of Currents", he was widely respected as America's greatest electrical engineer.[3] Much of his early work pioneered modern electrical engineering and many of his discoveries were of groundbreaking importance. In the United States, Tesla's fame rivaled that of any other inventor or scientist in history or popular culture,[4] but due to his eccentric personality and, at the time, unbelievable and sometimes bizarre claims about possible scientific and technological developments, Tesla was ultimately ostracized and regarded as a mad scientist.[5][6] Never putting much focus on his finances, Tesla died impoverished at the age of 86.
The SI unit measuring magnetic flux density or magnetic induction (commonly known as the magnetic field B,), the tesla, was named in his honour (at the Conférence Générale des Poids et Mesures, Paris, 1960).
Here's three more good Diggs. The last one made it to the front page!
http://digg.com/politics/ New_Yor...1_as_Inside_Job
http://digg.com/world_news/ Nucle..._23_to_April_27
http://digg.com/ political_opinio...lex_behind_wars
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Today on GCN(Veterans shootback) This fella was telling how about600,000 vets who have
severe debilitating injuries must go through a court determination process to get RATED on their disability?
Talk about nonsense! Why aren't the Army docter ging these people disability ratings period? And why aren't they being used to make deteminations? It sure would save some money! Now wouldn't it?
What sucks is thee expense of magnets. As to which one has avaiability to test these theories oneself!
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 1:55 am | #
Well, your proposed experiment shouldn't be too difficult or expensive to set up. The problem might be that with the ring magnets, the poles are not going to be along the circumfrence, but along the flat surface. If you attempt to align the edges of the ring, they will just try to flip up.
If you use the flat sides (and then you don't need the rings at all) you could more accurately perform your experiment.
Keep in mind that to "amplify" something, means to use more energy than your source. You are adding energy from another source to do the amplification. In electronic audio, you are amplifying a small signal (microvolts from a microphone, for example) by balancing it around the center of a larger voltage (say, 5V.) Then the signal can add or subtract current from the 5V to get an amplified (magnified) duplication of the input signal.
So you need more energy than your input to get it. Amplification is actually a lossy processes. This is why an audio amplifier gets hot.
Sane, are you going to get the hint that I am not going to respond to your nonsense? I cannot defend myself against your wild stupidity, and it would be pointless and unecessary to try. Go fight with someone else, unless you have some strange desire to fight with yourself.
This post is the extent of the respect I will give you.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:52 am | #
Since when is pointing to a link and tearing down an absurd anoalogy fighting? Did you read any of the scientific research? I think most people here are aware that our govt has been preventing alternative energy for some time. Saying that it won't work based on outlandish unscientific theories only assists the problem and keeps us in need. The world has everything any individual needs and elites are systematically destroying it so that scarcity will keep us as slaves.
Tesla, yeah, yeah, he's the guy the government stole all his plans from and like made HARRP. Yeah, that's it. Even Newt Gingerbitch thought it could be used to alter America's minds and thinking patterns. Man they must have that sucker cranked to fucking [super stupid] mode.
I hear it goes to 11.
Fuck'n shills!!
I had a American flag painted in my toilet bowl.
Every time I take a dump and piss I sing the American anthem. My wife bought me a little gizmo that when I flush it plays a few bars to "were the eagles soar". So cool.
What sucks is thee expense of magnets. As to which one has avaiability to test these theories oneself!
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 1:55 am | #
Exactly that is why Big Oil has to get the fuck out of the universities. They are preventing the research needed to finish Tesla's work (for the public not for the elite)
now, 911 must be exposed, this massacre must be looked at with a fine tooth comb!
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 1:54 am | #
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Yepper! Every good detective I've ever known. Takes into account factors that keep coming up along the same lines. Like? the dates to which these major events keep happening?
They catch serial killers using this watchful manner of reasoning.
Do you have a girlfriend sane?
Do you even know what pussy tastes like?
Finger bang | 04.23.07 - 1:55 am | #
rotflmfao
Dude I need to change my pants again
Uh, it is not even 11pm and uh I like to fingerbang my partner
Do you have a girlfriend sane?
Do you even know what pussy tastes like?
Finger bang | 04.23.07 - 1:55 am | #
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Why do you want to kiss him ya Freak?
Noisy ain't ya?
Here's three more good Diggs. The last one made it to the front page!
http://digg.com/politics/
New_Yor...1_as_Inside_Job
http://digg.com/world_news/
Nucle..._23_to_April_27
http://digg.com/
political_opinio...lex_behind_wars
get the energy of a motor forever and for free
I think the scientific research here is a little more thorough then your two people pulling on a rope theory:
http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e...g/e- magnet.html
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 1:49 am | #
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What sucks is thee expense of magnets. As to which one has avaiability to test these theories oneself!
Do you have a girlfriend sane?
Do you even know what pussy tastes like?
I was wrong.
You shouldn't all be playing warcraft.
You should be loading up your weapons for a high-school shooting.
Finger bang | 04.23.07 - 1:50 am | #
Lone gunman school shooting theory, that was so one week ago:
6 steps to an Illuminati executed Massacre:
1) Control the media before the event
Soledad, Imus Out
Roberts, Gregory In
Agents positioned at all blogs to get ready to limit the conversation away from logical thinking and towards "emotion-based" thoughts:
Here are the "conversation quotes" that are intended to divert the critical analysis in seeing how many holes there are in this story: Liberal Blogs:
-stop the racism against asians
-gun control is important
-stop stalkers who endanger women's rights
-this is not about immigration guys
-how can we protect our kids from monsters
Conservative blogs (just about the opposite):
-They are trying to take our guns, if those kids had guns they would be alive
-Women always make men crazy
-He was connected to islamic messages
-We have to close the borders
-He looks like a killer, those students were pussies, I woulda taken him out
Conspiracy blogs:
-This is connected to a zionist conspiracy
-The unabomber was a jew and this guy was trained by jews, listen to his anti-christian messages
-He was a shape shifting alien from the planet omfgtheybelvme
-Anyone who does not see that this is a jewish problem is a nazi (WTF???)
-This all has to do with numerology, look at the numbers 4-16-2007 = 911
-If you don't stop talking about this and start talking about 911-I'm leaving
-Only the scriptures will save us, do nothing for Jesus will save all
2) Keep hands off the scapegoat
-Stalker lived on university
-State of Virginia declares him a mental risk
-He is allowed to own handguns and much ammo
-Teachers, students repeatedly complained
-Students call the cops as they believe he is a stalker
-he is left alone in the 2 hours between 1st and 2nd killings
-he is allowed in a federal building (post office) after a homicide, bomb threats, state-declared mentally at risk
3) Make sure that plenty of distractions are available and have command and control:
-Police were almost frozen
-Put on various false paths including supposedly catching the wong guy
-Bomb threats called in to get FBI and other agencies set up and ready to go-could also let black ops oversee all command and control-Give multiple stand down orders from those who stand to gain the most-Get ready for a "friendle fiere" excuse like with Tillman
4) Glorify saviors on the media:
-Our pressident
-school security experts
-MK Ultra psychiatrists that make sure the conversation never talks about MK Ultra
-Gun control experts
-Religious experts that tell us about God's will
5) Shift any conversation about multiple people to a lone gunman
-is there any doubt about this?-There were multiple reports of multiple gunmen, only one casing shell matches
6) Leak the evidence to media/police that identifies a lone gunman
-Mind control the masses by continue to show visual connections to a lone gunman so that the subconscioous blocks logical thought and reason. Make sure they refer to it as with a catchy phrase like "media manifesto." -Think about it, in between this largest mass shooting by one human in the history of the world, he finds time to go to the post office (a federally protected ground) and get his "package" timestamped so that everyone will be able to know it was him even though he took time to file off the serial numbers on his guns and left the receipt for them in his backpack.
How many killers were there?
17 injured (at least 3 bullets per)
32 dead (probably more than 3 bullets per)
Median of 250 bullets that hit their targets by one person with 2 hand guns (9mm and .22)during a two hour total period of violence? Also, who chained the doors? What happened to the bodies on the grass and the sidewalk? Why did the president of VT speak at a conference in 2005 about ways to get more surveillance and police power on schools (the same year Cho was in a mental health ward)? Why did the president of VT not immediately release the medical records of Cho? What is he hiding? We know the history at Columbine about mind altering drugs and violent behavior. The fact remains that we have no chance of freedom while engaged in a never ending war against an abstract enemy. Any poly sci person knows it. The war must end now, 911 must be exposed, this massacre must be looked at with a fine tooth comb!
Yell me sane, sa sara or whatever else you call yourself? You spend an awful lot of time here, don't you have to get up to go to work in a few hours. Are you like, living in your moms basement?
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sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 1:49 am | #
Sane, are you going to get the hint that I am not going to respond to your nonsense? I cannot defend myself against your wild stupidity, and it would be pointless and unecessary to try. Go fight with someone else, unless you have some strange desire to fight with yourself.
This post is the extent of the respect I will give you.
I was wrong.
You shouldn't all be playing warcraft.
You should be loading up your weapons for a high-school shooting.
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I think the scientific research here is a little more thorough then your two people pulling on a rope theory:
http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e...g/e-
magnet.html
Duhh, amplify the energy
[cough Nerds]
uhhh, yeah, yeah,, outputs energy,
hey look at me, I can spell vibrate, aren't you impressed?
Finger bang | 04.23.07 - 1:43 am | #
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You are a derogatory animal are'nt you. Bet you didn't know that the thing out there on the Electrical pole called a TRANSFORMER amplifies the electricity going into your Home?
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Sane and Sara are trying to take this off into lala land.
With you, I can have a serious discussion. I know exactly what your intuition is telling you as I have thought it before. It does make sense, intuitively, but reality is much more complex.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:36 am | #
Uh dude, did you like get a grant from Exxon or something? The shit was built 40 years ago, look at the evidence that people have died to show us.
So sane, you think it is up to America to save the world, then?
Duhh, amplify the energy
[cough Nerds]
uhhh, yeah, yeah,, outputs energy,
hey look at me, I can spell vibrate, aren't you impressed?
Hey sane, you fuck'n loser, shouldn't you be , like playing warcraft? People like you are a government shills wet ass shit fucked dream. Cunts like you don't have their own Web pages cause nobody would pay attention, so you create circle jerk characters and end up taking important space with mindless dribble. But, then most American's are so fucking stupid, you think what is important to you is all that matters in the universe. America is going down, fast.
Finger bang | 04.23.07 - 1:37 am | #
Wow, someone hit the panic button. You can go to my homepage to see that I distinguish America from our currently appointed president.
And true patriots like the ones on this board are working hard to prevent this country (and thus the world) from coming into further demise.
That's funny because I was going to clarify something too, but I thought you'd think I was starting things up again, so I didn't.
ONLY True Peace,
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 1:21 am | #
No. We are all good, now, I think. Please clarify if you feel the need to. I am all ears.
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Has this been taken down all of a sudden?
America acts like it sure as hell is.
Finger bang | 04.23.07 - 1:39 am | #
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You see. You want to catergorise all Americans into a 1 LUMP. But forget that everyone these days . Are controlled by influences of government. You essentially lose face by leaving this facter out.
Can a electron micoscope detect the difference between magnetic molocules and light atoms? How did Ed know light molecules were bigger than magnetic what device did Ed use to measure this?
If he made it up, his theory seems correct. I know each element has a specific signature atomic structure, but is magnetics a wave? Is it in a physics book? I serious.
Anti-gravity must zero out gravity,mass,somehow. Its like Newton experiment with the apple, gravity and the feather fall at the same rate. Bioth have identical atoms. But, as Ed pointed out, magnetics is smaller that, light and therefore has an "effect"on objects of any ratio.
How am I doing sane?
lol
Yes, possibly vibrate at some resonant frequency as they attempt to equalize forces (and will eventually stop vibrating once they "wear level.") There will be "tension" as in equal and opposite forces. Like two people being of equal strength playing tug of war. Eventually one will lose in endurance, and as with that analogy, magnetics do break down and loose strength.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:33 am | #
This is simply not true. I apologize but magnets do not follow the analogy of two guys tugging on a rope. That is insane.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 1:35 am | #
humans expire energy and need to replace it with food, water, air, rest. Magnets work off of a natural field in the Earth. The energy is all around us. Tesla showed us we can light his light bulbs with the energy flowing in 2 people. What replenishment do magnets need?
Hey sane, you fuck'n loser, shouldn't you be , like playing warcraft? People like you are a government shills wet ass shit fucked dream. Cunts like you don't have their own Web pages cause nobody would pay attention, so you create circle jerk characters and end up taking important space with mindless dribble. But, then most American's are so fucking stupid, you think what is important to you is all that matters in the universe. America is going down, fast.
Finger bang | 04.23.07 - 1:37 am | #
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And now with YOUr OWN statements. You've yourself turned into an asshole. Good JOB!
"..God now"?
America acts like it sure as hell is.
I see. Then you do have to amplify the output energy and take some of it and re input it back into the process to continue it from degrading.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 1:36 am | #
EXACTLY! Now, you are understanding! And unfortunately, this is where perpetual motion has broke down on every attempt up to now. I am certianly not going to say it is completely impossible (we make new advances in technology every day), but the device you described will not work for that reason.
With you, I can have a serious discussion. I know exactly what your intuition is telling you as I have thought it before. It does make sense, intuitively, but reality is much more complex.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:36 am | #
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Yes! True deductive reasoning! : o )
Hey sane, you fuck'n loser, shouldn't you be , like playing warcraft? People like you are a government shills wet ass shit fucked dream. Cunts like you don't have their own Web pages cause nobody would pay attention, so you create circle jerk characters and end up taking important space with mindless dribble. But, then most American's are so fucking stupid, you think what is important to you is all that matters in the universe. America is going down, fast.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 1:30 am | #
I hope you can respect that I am only going to have this dialog with you. Sane and Sara are trying to take this off into lala land.
With you, I can have a serious discussion. I know exactly what your intuition is telling you as I have thought it before. It does make sense, intuitively, but reality is much more complex.
I did - requested - look at this video on WTC7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G...h?
v=G86yuunRBIw
I also contacted a couple of people on that site..and they confirmed what I was thinking: they were blocked from asking questions. So I asked why, and the were all adamant is was not because they had sent the owner abuse or anything.
I can see from the owner's comments that he is some kind of dis-info agent. The official line on WTC can't explain why it fell - yet points to fire! As we all know here, fire did not bring that building down.
So instead of challenging this discrepancy he is challenging people for stating that this discrepancy is not a conspiracy but a fact. He thinks anyone who questions is automatically some kind of conspiracy nut-case.
I am not as good as Alex and his team at asking questions, but I'd love to hear their views. I'd love to see dis-info agents answer the questions they can choose not to answer on their video's.
The fact remains that WTC 7 fell into a neat pile, it was not consumed by fire and even if that were the case, it would not have fallen like this. The additional, official line that it fell due to a structural defect just doesn't cut it; again, this building would have leaned over - the same for WTC 1 and 2. The only logical conclusion is controlled demolition.
These video's suck - because they are like their owner's minds: read-only. Why should we trust them?
Yes, possibly vibrate at some resonant frequency as they attempt to equalize forces (and will eventually stop vibrating once they "wear level.") There will be "tension" as in equal and opposite forces. Like two people being of equal strength playing tug of war. Eventually one will lose in endurance, and as with that analogy, magnetics do break down and loose strength.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:33 am | #
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I see. Then you do have to amplify the output energy and take some of it and re input it back into the process to continue it from degrading.
Yes, possibly vibrate at some resonant frequency as they attempt to equalize forces (and will eventually stop vibrating once they "wear level.") There will be "tension" as in equal and opposite forces. Like two people being of equal strength playing tug of war. Eventually one will lose in endurance, and as with that analogy, magnetics do break down and loose strength.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:33 am | #
This is simply not true. I apologize but magnets do not follow the analogy of two guys tugging on a rope. That is insane.
I fully believe in gun control.
I think everyone should be able to shoot with one hand. LOL
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NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 1:26 am | #
Yes, possibly vibrate at some resonant frequency as they attempt to equalize forces (and will eventually stop vibrating once they "wear level.") There will be "tension" as in equal and opposite forces. Like two people being of equal strength playing tug of war. Eventually one will lose in endurance, and as with that analogy, magnetics do break down and loose strength.
I just finished watching a video on YouTube that shows how stupid American's really, really are.
No wonder Bush can get away with mass murder. You can't even name a country starting with the letter U.
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There's ignorant stupid bastards everywhere on this planet. What are you freak'in talking about?
You couldn't only do this once. Different forms of friction will eventually stop it. You will need to kick start it again. This is where you need to put the energy in.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:09 am | #
Again not true, the diagrams show varying rings with breaks in them to allow various energy shifts to occur. In addition the energy in our body is powerful enough to guide the device. See the video on the Carr saucer, then ask some questions.
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 1:13 am | #
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I love mind games too.
Tesla invented the generator,with magnets and copper wires around it. His patents showed this. But anti-gravity and magnets is what science wishes(like how do ufos leave gravity)some how stops gravity on the object. Maybe its an unknown alloy. Ed from Coral Castle was trying to tell us something. I know he wrote a few books, and had copyrights. Maybe he was a wizard?
I just finished watching a video on YouTube that shows how stupid American's really, really are.
No wonder Bush can get away with mass murder. You can't even name a country starting with the letter U.
Finger bang | 04.23.07 - 1:26 am | #
Uraguay, Uzbekistan, USA, Ukraine, UAE, UK, Uganda...
????
I wish the only problem was that we are dumb.
I mean? Imagine the output of a Neo magnet that was 20 lbs.?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 1:16 am | #
Here's an example:
I had this idea that if you created a perfect sphere lined inside with a reflective surface, and somehow shot a laser beam into it and sealed it, would it just bounce around forever?
The answer is no. Each time it is is "bounced" some energy is absorbed by the reflective surface and transferred to heat. Eventually, all the energy is absorbed and transferred to heat and the "cell is dead."
The best we can hope for (at least as physics can't currently explain) is to develop some form of energy generation in which we get more output than what we put in.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:16 am | #
Guys, we do not need that much stuff. The energy is everywhere (like water and air). We have been duped into paying for it (like we have been with water and soon with air). The energy is fucking everywhere. We do not need big magnets , we need to get the oil companies out of our fucking universities.
I just finished watching a video on YouTube that shows how stupid American's really, really are.
No wonder Bush can get away with mass murder. You can't even name a country starting with the letter U.
With all forms of energy there are at least two domains that are perpendicular to each other. As one goes up, the other goes down. If you could create a perfect slope of x=y, you may be able to get close.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:19 am | #
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Aren't magnets self sustaining?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 1:18 am | #
In what regards? Do you mean that "do they always stay magnetic?" Yes, but they do loose strength.
I am not discouraging your line of reasoning entirely. I would focus more on resonant frequency however, and match that to some naturally ocurring frequency like the Schumann's resonance.
Tesla's work involved tapping into the standing wave created by the difference of potentional between the earth's core and it's ionosphere. Basically, he turned the earth into a battery. Not perpetual, but it should remain to some degree for as long as the earth remains stable.
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The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.22.07 - 11:11 pm | #
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That's funny because I was going to clarify something too, but I thought you'd think I was starting things up again, so I didn't.
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tom | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 1:10 am | #
NICE FUCKING DIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it would depend on the strength of the magnets and how much resistance they can over come by themselves and their own output energy ratio to resistance. Now wouldn't it?
You know like those Neodynium magnets?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 1:15 am | #
No. It doesn't matter. And yes, I am very familiar with magnetic theory and application; RF, photonic, natural, and flux. I have experimented with all of them.
With all forms of energy there are at least two domains that are perpendicular to each other. As one goes up, the other goes down. If you could create a perfect slope of x=y, you may be able to get close.
The best we can hope for (at least as physics can't currently explain) is to develop some form of energy generation in which we get more output than what we put in.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:16 am | #
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Aren't magnets self sustaining?
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(yet)
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I mean? Imagine the output of a Neo magnet that was 20 lbs.?
Here's an example:
I had this idea that if you created a perfect sphere lined inside with a reflective surface, and somehow shot a laser beam into it and sealed it, would it just bounce around forever?
The answer is no. Each time it is is "bounced" some energy is absorbed by the reflective surface and transferred to heat. Eventually, all the energy is absorbed and transferred to heat and the "cell is dead."
The best we can hope for (at least as physics can't currently explain) is to develop some form of energy generation in which we get more output than what we put in.
You couldn't only do this once. Different forms of friction will eventually stop it. You will need to kick start it again. This is where you need to put the energy in.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:09 am | #
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I think it would depend on the strength of the magnets and how much resistance they can over come by themselves and their own output energy ratio to resistance. Now wouldn't it?
You know like those Neodynium magnets?
You couldn't only do this once. Different forms of friction will eventually stop it. You will need to kick start it again. This is where you need to put the energy in.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:09 am | #
Again not true, the diagrams show varying rings with breaks in them to allow various energy shifts to occur. In addition the energy in our body is powerful enough to guide the device. See the video on the Carr saucer, then ask some questions.
The spin axis is "fixed" by gravity along with the same magnets around the circle, therefore everything includeing the axis is the same,regarless that it is turning on an axis, and zeros all momentum. The magnets are on the earth. To work one must leave the influence of the large body called earth.
Is that correct?
sara | 04.23.07 - 1:08 am | #
Partially, but basically correct, yes. Gravity is not the only form of friction present, though. Even a laser beam in space eventually loses all power, due to atomic friction.
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If the gaol is perpetual motion, the problem is that you need to use energy to switch the polarity back and forth, and different forms of friction (including gravity) will need to be overcome. In nearly all cases of what has been invented so far, we always have to put in more energy than we can get out.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:03 am | #
Not true at all. Perpetual motion does exist (well not really, but sort of). The earth is made up of so much energy it is fucking crazy.
We use the worst and most inefficient methods to tap into it. All research to make it more efficient by following the natural energy in the earth is controlled by the same Universities that get their funding from oil and chemical companies. So what do you think happens with the alternative energy research programs???
They are confined to BS thesis' like "how to find better methods for locating untaped oil"
or
"how to make drilling more efficient"
It is a fucking scam
Hey Gabe, did you know that Wiiliam Cooper renounced his belief in UFOs, before he died, because he saw top secret documents calling the UFO hoax a distraction for the development of the one world government.
http://www.hourofthetime.com/maj...om/
majestyt.htm
Yes to make the magnets as strong as they could be. But you could mover the outside ring in and out manually to bring it into alignment to start the reactions.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 1:07 am | #
You couldn't only do this once. Different forms of friction will eventually stop it. You will need to kick start it again. This is where you need to put the energy in.
Let's say you have a circle of aligned magnets set on a turn table. All with their south poles pointing outwards. This turn table will spin freely on an axis,
Around this turn table of magnets in close proximity. You have a larger circle of magnets set in permenent configuration so ass to repel the magnets on the spinning axis. Will it spin freely?
At what speed will it spin? If the magnets are set up to continually push each other away from each other?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 12:50 am | #
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The spin axis is "fixed" by gravity along with the same magnets around the circle, therefore everything includeing the axis is the same,regarless that it is turning on an axis, and zeros all momentum. The magnets are on the earth. To work one must leave the influence of the large body called earth.
Is that correct?
sane | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 1:01 am | #
Man, uninformed disinformation again?? Seriously! Can you back up even just one statement you just pull out of your ass? Can you make even one provable statement?
Grab any physics book or even ACTUALLY read Tesla's work and you will know what you are saying so false, it would make a whore blush.
If the gaol is perpetual motion, the problem is that you need to use energy to switch the polarity back and forth, and different forms of friction (including gravity) will need to be overcome. In nearly all cases of what has been invented so far, we always have to put in more energy than we can get out.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.23.07 - 1:03 am | #
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Yes to make the magnets as strong as they could be. But you could mover the outside ring in and out manually to bring it into alignment to start the reactions.
In theory it should be perpetual and self sustaining. But I wonder on the weight limits?
You may also particularly enjoy Bill Schnoebelen's "Interview with a Vampire" on google videos.
Gabriel Alan King | 04.23.07 - 12:54 am | #
I also find him somewhat credible. Definitely falls in line with all the rest of the shit.
If the gaol is perpetual motion, the problem is that you need to use energy to switch the polarity back and forth, and different forms of friction (including gravity) will need to be overcome. In nearly all cases of what has been invented so far, we always have to put in more energy than we can get out.
These magnetic propulsion vehicles can perform all of the movements we have seen around the concorde, space stations, etc. And they are man made. This technology is over 40 years old, but it is being hidden from us like cures for cancer, AIDS, etc. (how the fuck do you think Castro recovered? Why do you think Darth Cheney still breathes?)
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Thank-YOU! You think that machine I described would work?
Jeeez? Still not 1 response on my Reflections on Coral Castle!
At what speed will it spin? If the magnets are set up to continually push each other away from each other?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 12:50 am | #
Magnets create unlimited energy. Tesla knew this and was marginalized:
http://www.evworld.com/article.c...fm?
storyid=1062
Others followed and were marginalized:
Ralph Ring, Otis Carr:
http://projectcamelot.net/ralph_ring.wmv
Diagrams for the first magnetic energy flying saucer (not alien made, human made)
http://www.projectcamelot.net/
ra...ralph_ring.html
These magnetic propulsion vehicles can perform all of the movements we have seen around the concorde, space stations, etc. And they are man made. This technology is over 40 years old, but it is being hidden from us like cures for cancer, AIDS, etc. (how the fuck do you think Castro recovered? Why do you think Darth Cheney still breathes?)
WOW? Talk about narrow mindedness, and self absorbed!
I was reflecting on Coral castle and how maybe he made that Magnetic machine of his work. Not 1 response.
When you try to put a strong magnets North or south pole to another magnets north or south pole. The opposites will repel one another.
Let's say you have a circle of aligned magnets set on a turn table. All with their south poles pointing outwards. This turn table will spin freely on an axis,
Around this turn table of magnets in close proximity. You have a larger circle of magnets set in permenent configuration so ass to repel the magnets on the spinning axis. Will it spin freely?
At what speed will it spin? If the magnets are set up to continually push each other away from each other?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 04.23.07 - 12:50 am | #
Your description is a bit confusing, but I will give it a try.
If you have a turn table with (several?) ring magnets running along the perimeter, all with their south poles facing outward...
The bigger circle around the turntable would need to switch polarity to make any movement at all. It need to repel in one direction and attract in the opposite. If you simply faced the south pole of the bigger circle in towards the turntable, you will just get tension because the force will remain even in all possible directions. It will act like a brake. If anything, the tension may begin a vibration (oscillation) of some sort because of irregularities in the strength of each magnet.
And it is "opposite attract" "like poles repel" but I am sure that was just a typo, right?
It's Mr., boy | 04.16.07 - 12:02 pm | #
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