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RAWSTORY COMMENTS PROMOTE HUGE SPENDING FOR ROADS/BRIDGES
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"The organization estimated that 1.6 trillion dollars needed to be spent over a five-year period to bring US infrastructure up to good condition."Sorry, we NEED that money to fight them tahrrrists over in I-rak. Every great nation has fallen apart because of numerous ill-conceived foreign wars. Why should we be any exception?
CB | Email | Homepage | 08.02.07 - 3:31 pm
The terroists don't have to come over here to kill us. They can wait for Bush's incompetence to do it for them.With Bush running the country, you don't have to worry about suicide bombers, just falling bridges and hurricanes. Not to mention Chinese imports.
skyreader7 | Email | Homepage | 08.02.07 - 3:46 pm
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Operation Mochingbird:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Ope...ion_Mockingbird
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ anal...ockingbird.html
http:// www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...mockingbird.htm
http:// www.whatreallyhappened.co...ockingbird.html
http://educationforum.ipbhost.co...? showtopic=5142
http://portland.indymedia.org/en...03/ 284155.shtml
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During a time of national emergency, our mainstream media is controlled by Department of Defense or outsourced Non-Government Organizations [Council on Foreign Affairs/American Enterprise Institute/Brookings/Heritage/etc.].

The 24/7 Military Ops News flood's purpose is to allow only one repeated explanation for what caused an emergency and how to handle it [just like on 9/11, 7/7, Tillman, Lynch, Abu Graib, etc.]. The method is to repeat the same thing over and over again without allowing dissenting voices to get in the way of the programming. In MK Ultra programming victims, they are often found listening to the same song over and over again for 20-40 hours straight, this is what we ave been subjected to with the bridge collapse information. The mainstream media has shown us the same visual of collapsed bridge on at least half the screen for over 24 hours on 4 stations.

This type of total spectrum media control can only be accomplished via a military type operation. The money and power it takes to do this points to the same elites that controlled the information dissemination from 9/11. This psychological warfare against the American people is already having an effect judging by the Raw Story comments.

The Deomocrats will be engaging in the Guns vs. Butter economic conversation. This is the economic theory that says we cannot afford but military and domestic spending and we therefore must give up one for the other. It revolves around the notion that we are powerless and only federal elites can make these important decisions. They therefore switch every 8-12 years from one to the other as we slowly become more indebted to the Federal Reserve [look at the past 70 years and see if it is true].

So what does it mean when the elites shift government spending to domestic programs? Well it allows for more infiltration of communist and socialist selloffs like education, infrastructure to a NAU type model, socialized medicine, even more control over the media, the loss of even more freedoms as we need to think of the masses rather than ourselves. Huge increase in taxes, national identification and confiscation of guns will also be needed as we are no longer free individuals but state and federal workers.

Since Hillary is so far ahead in the Democratic polls, she will probably start being seen as the SOLUTION in this staged CHAOS plan. Funny, she helped be the solution in the last staed CHAOS plan [9/11-iraq war and less civil rights].

Look at the obvious way these controlled national tragedies get set up:
War on Terrorism had a progression:
-93 bombing
-embassy bombings
-cole
-So when 9/11 came around, we never thought anything but Bin Laden

This new Domestic Spending Initiative also has a progression:
-Strapped state/infrastructure funding because Bush spends it all on foreign policy
-Berkely Bridge
-Semi was pinned a few days ago
-various reports that infrastructure is not maintained
-So when the Minnesota Bridge was demolished, Chris Dodd and other puppets could recite some historical evidence and we would believe it without investigating further.

Guess the next one will be aliens. I can see the RawStory comments now..."No one was thinking about the aliens. There were bills in congress to fund the alien research but we were too focused on rebuilding infrastructure to do anything about it."
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Personally I agree with the gist of many of the comments, that we have spent trillions and killed over a million for no reason whatsoever, however just like Hitler was a solution to the desperate times that Gemans were going through in the late 1920s early 1930s, this solution may make us worse of and especially if it is ignited via the control of media. We need to take media power away from the government. This power allows for total spectrum information control at the expense of free independent discourse. It also can prevent independent investigations into local, state, and national disasters. Disasters that sometimes seem to be staged events. We are then subjected to mass mind control via the MSM and now progressive blogs that embed the connections into our subconsious as we slowly move toward complete slavery.
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Wow, look at this loony idiot. He apparently thinks that Alex Jones is a neocon and his videos are nauseating. He apparently has a vendetta against Alex.

His video, "What the Hell Did Alex Jones Ever Know?":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=Fh0WnofAcrk


if name sane101 there, may have to open and close app couple times till a request to add to friends pops up.. once that works can go from there.


sorry


gonna nag ya into it I swear lol...
you want documentaries and other great stuff?
jump on in!


yup, saw other day you re-posted all his toilet flushings, he's just another rich to me.
nice thing about FT chat, can kickban those types


hold on i wanna deal with this steve bs


mornin'.. try again lol..


looking like servers there are weak tonight maybe too, might be better in the morning, dont stop trying tho, its usually excellent.


heck, this page is a little sticky too.


messages can be a little sticky sometimes lol


tried sane101 for ya, try disconnect/connect upper left.. might pop up then


that the nickname ?


check 4 me


used to do winmx, but it blows anymore.


we set up to a bit more secure on top of all that too.
Sees Things | 07.21.07 - 9:52 pm | #

i chor do


you can also set up to run through a proxy server.. can be a little slower, and some proxy servers are monitored too. peer guardian keep most all the snoopers off, and its really rare to even get hits there.


we set up to a bit more secure on top of all that too.


users dont see each others IP# unless you send a note to someone and tick a box to include IP#, it's 128 bit encrypted so its reasonably secure too.
I know if I tried I could possibly grab someones IP# .. most dont know those games tho


this thing uses a protocol that sends ips got anything that uses http protocol?


a) pick a nickname (to be ditched soon)
b) write down youre password so you can change nickname
c) holler in here that nickname so I can add ya
d) we do namechange and other details in there.


whered ya go ? lol


trouble with the install there ?


no, but if you can make yours sane101 right now, holler when youre in, I can add to friends, it'll be the name popping up, button lower right, accept friend, accept invite... then we set you up better


ur nick the same?


once we got ya in there we change youre nickname and re-add again for anonymity


www.filetopia.org

download it and install, use same nickname if possible.. like sane101 (write down youre password!!) I can add ya to friends for chat.


the download says 124 days, you got some secret site for it?


yup


this 10 ? lol


NWO did 9/11.

NWO = Rothschild & Rockefeller.

USA today = Perle, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Feith, Chertoff...

Bring them down.
Commenter | 07.12.07 - 7:44 pm | #

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4 guys??????

4 fucking guys????

and feith does not count he is missing so much grey matter that he is a chimp at best.


NWO did 9/11.

NWO = Rothschild & Rockefeller.

USA today = Perle, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Feith, Chertoff...

Bring them down.


A Modest Proposal By Jonathan Swift (1729)
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For Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland From Being Aburden to Their Parents or Country, and For Making Them Beneficial to The Public
It is a melancholy object to those who walk through this great town or travel in the country, when they see the streets, the roads, and cabin doors, crowded with beggars of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six children, all in rags and importuning every passenger for an alms. These mothers, instead of being able to work for their honest livelihood, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg sustenance for their helpless infants: who as they grow up either turn thieves for want of work, or leave their dear native country to fight for the Pretender in Spain, or sell themselves to the Barbadoes.

I think it is agreed by all parties that this prodigious number of children in the arms, or on the backs, or at the heels of their mothers, and frequently of their fathers, is in the present deplorable state of the kingdom a very great additional grievance; and, therefore, whoever could find out a fair, cheap, and easy method of making these children sound, useful members of the commonwealth, would deserve so well of the public as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the nation.

But my intention is very far from being confined to provide only for the children of professed beggars; it is of a much greater extent, and shall take in the whole number of infants at a certain age who are born of parents in effect as little able to support them as those who demand our charity in the streets.

As to my own part, having turned my thoughts for many years upon this important subject, and maturely weighed the several schemes of other projectors, I have always found them grossly mistaken in the computation. It is true, a child just dropped from its dam may be supported by her milk for a solar year, with little other nourishment; at most not above the value of 2s., which the mother may certainly get, or the value in scraps, by her lawful occupation of begging; and it is exactly at one year old that I propose to provide for them in such a manner as instead of being a charge upon their parents or the parish, or wanting food and raiment for the rest of their lives, they shall on the contrary contribute to the feeding, and partly to the clothing, of many thousands.

There is likewise another great advantage in my scheme, that it will prevent those voluntary abortions, and that horrid practice of women murdering their bastard children, alas! too frequent among us! sacrificing the poor innocent babes I doubt more to avoid the expense than the shame, which would move tears and pity in the most savage and inhuman breast.

The number of souls in this kingdom being usually reckoned one million and a half, of these I calculate there may be about two hundred thousand couple whose wives are breeders; from which number I subtract thirty thousand couples who are able to maintain their own children, although I apprehend there cannot be so many, under the present distresses of the kingdom; but this being granted, there will remain an hundred and seventy thousand breeders. I again subtract fifty thousand for those women who miscarry, or whose children die by accident or disease within the year. There only remains one hundred and twenty thousand children of poor parents annually born. The question therefore is, how this number shall be reared and provided for, which, as I have already said, under the present situation of affairs, is utterly impossible by all the methods hitherto proposed. For we can neither employ them in handicraft or agriculture; we neither build houses (I mean in the country) nor cultivate land: they can very seldom pick up a livelihood by stealing, till they arrive at six years old, except where they are of towardly parts, although I confess they learn the rudiments much earlier, during which time, they can however be properly looked upon only as probationers, as I have been informed by a principal gentleman in the county of Cavan, who protested to me that he never knew above one or two instances under the age of six, even in a part of the kingdom so renowned for the quickest proficiency in that art.

I am assured by our merchants, that a boy or a girl before twelve years old is no salable commodity; and even when they come to this age they will not yield above three pounds, or three pounds and half-a-crown at most on the exchange; which cannot turn to account either to the parents or kingdom, the charge of nutriment and rags having been at least four times that value.

I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.

I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout.


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I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that of the hundred and twenty thousand children already computed, twenty thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one-fourth part to be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle or swine; and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in the sale to the persons of quality and fortune through the kingdom; always advising the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to render them plump and fat for a good table. A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter.

I have reckoned upon a medium that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds, and in a solar year, if tolerably nursed, increaseth to 28 pounds.

I grant this food will be somewhat dear, and therefore very proper for landlords, who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have the best title to the children.

Infant's flesh will be in season throughout the year, but more plentiful in March, and a little before and after; for we are told by a grave author, an eminent French physician, that fish being a prolific diet, there are more children born in Roman Catholic countries about nine months after Lent than at any other season; therefore, reckoning a year after Lent, the markets will be more glutted than usual, because the number of popish infants is at least three to one in this kingdom: and therefore it will have one other collateral advantage, by lessening the number of papists among us.

I have already computed the charge of nursing a beggar's child (in which list I reckon all cottagers, laborers, and four-fifths of the farmers) to be about two shillings per annum, rags included; and I believe no gentleman would repine to give ten shillings for the carcass of a good fat child, which, as I have said, will make four dishes of excellent nutritive meat, when he hath only some particular friend or his own family to dine with him. Thus the squire will learn to be a good landlord, and grow popular among his tenants; the mother will have eight shillings net profit, and be fit for work till she produces another child.

Those who are more thrifty (as I must confess the times require) may flay the carcass; the skin of which artificially dressed will make admirable gloves for ladies, and summer boots for fine gentlemen.

As to our city of Dublin, shambles may be appointed for this purpose in the most convenient parts of it, and butchers we may be assured will not be wanting; although I rather recommend buying the children alive, and dressing them hot from the knife, as we do roasting pigs.

A very worthy person, a true lover of his country, and whose virtues I highly esteem, was lately pleased in discoursing on this matter to offer a refinement upon my scheme. He said that many gentlemen of this kingdom, having of late destroyed their deer, he conceived that the want of venison might be well supplied by the bodies of young lads and maidens, not exceeding fourteen years of age nor under twelve; so great a number of both sexes in every country being now ready to starve for want of work and service; and these to be disposed of by their parents, if alive, or otherwise by their nearest relations. But with due deference to so excellent a friend and so deserving a patriot, I cannot be altogether in his sentiments; for as to the males, my American acquaintance assured me, from frequent experience, that their flesh was generally tough and lean, like that of our schoolboys by continual exercise, and their taste disagreeable; and to fatten them would not answer the charge. Then as to the females, it would, I think, with humble submission be a loss to the public, because they soon would become breeders themselves; and besides, it is not improbable that some scrupulous people might be apt to censure such a practice (although indeed very unjustly), as a little bordering upon cruelty; which, I confess, hath always been with me the strongest objection against any project, however so well intended.

But in order to justify my friend, he confessed that this expedient was put into his head by the famous Psalmanazar, a native of the island Formosa, who came from thence to London above twenty years ago, and in conversation told my friend, that in his country when any young person happened to be put to death, the executioner sold the carcass to persons of quality as a prime dainty; and that in his time the body of a plump girl of fifteen, who was crucified for an attempt to poison the emperor, was sold to his imperial majesty's prime minister of state, and other great mandarins of the court, in joints from the gibbet, at four hundred crowns. Neither indeed can I deny, that if the same use were made of several plump young girls in this town, who without one single groat to their fortunes cannot stir abroad without a chair, and appear at playhouse and assemblies in foreign fineries which they never will pay for, the kingdom would not be the worse.

Some persons of a desponding spirit are in great concern about that vast number of poor people, who are aged, diseased, or maimed, and I have been desired to employ my thoughts what course may be taken to ease the nation of so grievous an encumbrance. But I am not in the least pain upon that matter, because it is very well known that they are every day dying and rotting by cold and famine, and filth and vermin, as fast as can be reasonably expected. And as to the young laborers, they are now in as hopeful a condition; they cannot get work, and consequently pine away for want of nourishment, to a degree that if at any time they are accidentally hired to common labor, they have not strength to perform it; and thus the country and themselves are happily delivered from the evils to come.


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I have too long digressed, and therefore shall return to my subject. I think the advantages by the proposal which I have made are obvious and many, as well as of the highest importance.

For first, as I have already observed, it would greatly lessen the number of papists, with whom we are yearly overrun, being the principal breeders of the nation as well as our most dangerous enemies; and who stay at home on purpose with a design to deliver the kingdom to the Pretender, hoping to take their advantage by the absence of so many good protestants, who have chosen rather to leave their country than stay at home and pay tithes against their conscience to an episcopal curate.

Secondly, The poorer tenants will have something valuable of their own, which by law may be made liable to distress and help to pay their landlord's rent, their corn and cattle being already seized, and money a thing unknown.

Thirdly, Whereas the maintenance of an hundred thousand children, from two years old and upward, cannot be computed at less than ten shillings a-piece per annum, the nation's stock will be thereby increased fifty thousand pounds per annum, beside the profit of a new dish introduced to the tables of all gentlemen of fortune in the kingdom who have any refinement in taste. And the money will circulate among ourselves, the goods being entirely of our own growth and manufacture.

Fourthly, The constant breeders, beside the gain of eight shillings sterling per annum by the sale of their children, will be rid of the charge of maintaining them after the first year.

Fifthly, This food would likewise bring great custom to taverns; where the vintners will certainly be so prudent as to procure the best receipts for dressing it to perfection, and consequently have their houses frequented by all the fine gentlemen, who justly value themselves upon their knowledge in good eating: and a skilful cook, who understands how to oblige his guests, will contrive to make it as expensive as they please.

Sixthly, This would be a great inducement to marriage, which all wise nations have either encouraged by rewards or enforced by laws and penalties. It would increase the care and tenderness of mothers toward their children, when they were sure of a settlement for life to the poor babes, provided in some sort by the public, to their annual profit instead of expense. We should see an honest emulation among the married women, which of them could bring the fattest child to the market. Men would become as fond of their wives during the time of their pregnancy as they are now of their mares in foal, their cows in calf, their sows when they are ready to farrow; nor offer to beat or kick them (as is too frequent a practice) for fear of a miscarriage.

Many other advantages might be enumerated. For instance, the addition of some thousand carcasses in our exportation of barreled beef, the propagation of swine's flesh, and improvement in the art of making good bacon, so much wanted among us by the great destruction of pigs, too frequent at our tables; which are no way comparable in taste or magnificence to a well-grown, fat, yearling child, which roasted whole will make a considerable figure at a lord mayor's feast or any other public entertainment. But this and many others I omit, being studious of brevity.

Supposing that one thousand families in this city, would be constant customers for infants flesh, besides others who might have it at merry meetings, particularly at weddings and christenings, I compute that Dublin would take off annually about twenty thousand carcasses; and the rest of the kingdom (where probably they will be sold somewhat cheaper) the remaining eighty thousand.

I can think of no one objection, that will possibly be raised against this proposal, unless it should be urged, that the number of people will be thereby much lessened in the kingdom. This I freely own, and 'twas indeed one principal design in offering it to the world. I desire the reader will observe, that I calculate my remedy for this one individual Kingdom of Ireland, and for no other that ever was, is, or, I think, ever can be upon Earth. Therefore let no man talk to me of other expedients: Of taxing our absentees at five shillings a pound: Of using neither cloaths, nor houshold furniture, except what is of our own growth and manufacture: Of utterly rejecting the materials and instruments that promote foreign luxury: Of curing the expensiveness of pride, vanity, idleness, and gaming in our women: Of introducing a vein of parsimony, prudence and temperance: Of learning to love our country, wherein we differ even from Laplanders, and the inhabitants of Topinamboo: Of quitting our animosities and factions, nor acting any longer like the Jews, who were murdering one another at the very moment their city was taken: Of being a little cautious not to sell our country and consciences for nothing: Of teaching landlords to have at least one degree of mercy towards their tenants. Lastly, of putting a spirit of honesty, industry, and skill into our shop-keepers, who, if a resolution could now be taken to buy only our native goods, would immediately unite to cheat and exact upon us in the price, the measure, and the goodness, nor could ever yet be brought to make one fair proposal of just dealing, though often and earnestly invited to it.

Therefore I repeat, let no man talk to me of these and the like expedients, 'till he hath at least some glympse of hope, that there will ever be some hearty and sincere attempt to put them into practice.

But, as to my self, having been wearied out for many years with offering vain, idle, visionary thoughts, and at length utterly despairing of success, I fortunately fell upon this proposal, which, as it is wholly new, so it hath something solid and real, of no expence and little trouble, full in our own power, and whereby we can incur no danger in disobliging England. For this kind of commodity will not bear exportation, and flesh being of too tender a consistence, to admit a long continuance in salt, although perhaps I could name a country, which would be glad to eat up our whole nation without it.

After all, I am not so violently bent upon my own opinion as to reject any offer proposed by wise men, which shall be found equally innocent, cheap, easy, and effectual. But before something of that kind shall be advanced in contradiction to my scheme, and offering a better, I desire the author or authors will be pleased maturely to consider two points. First, as things now stand, how they will be able to find food and raiment for an hundred thousand useless mouths and backs. And secondly, there being a round million of creatures in human figure throughout this kingdom, whose whole subsistence put into a common stock would leave them in debt two millions of pounds sterling, adding those who are beggars by profession to the bulk of farmers, cottagers, and laborers, with their wives and children who are beggars in effect: I desire those politicians who dislike my overture, and may perhaps be so bold as to attempt an answer, that they will first ask the parents of these mortals, whether they would not at this day think it a great happiness to have been sold for food, at a year old in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortunes as they have since gone through by the oppression of landlords, the impossibility of paying rent without money or trade, the want of common sustenance, with neither house nor clothes to cover them from the inclemencies of the weather, and the most inevitable prospect of entailing the like or greater miseries upon their breed for ever.

I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my country, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing.

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Time for Another Revolution
By Frank Chodorov
[From Chapter 4, One is a Crowd, by Frank Chodorov, 1952. Posted on http://www.mises.org/story/2633 July 4th, 2007]
http://www.mises.org/books/onecrowd.pdf


It all began, as you know, with the Declaration of Independence. The Americans stated their case, both as to the disabilities put upon them by the British Crown and as to the kind of government they considered it fitting for men to live under. The indictment was rejected and the issue was joined in battle. The god of war decided in favor of the Americans, insofar as removing the grievous rule was concerned; but in the establishment of a government to their liking the victors were on their own. Nobody could help them. Even history could not make a suggestion; for never had there been a political establishment constructed or operating on principles laid down in the Declaration. These principles, moreover, were quite metaphysical, completely outside the realm of experience. They were: (1) that all men are created equal, and, (2) that all men are endowed with inalienable rights. When you come down to it, the two metaphysical concepts are really one. For the postulate of equality did not apply to human capacities or attributes, which are quite unequal and far beyond the scope of government, but to the enjoyment of rights or prerogatives. In that respect, they maintained, all men must be considered on a par. This was a brand-new base for government. In all political science hitherto known it had been an axiom that rights were privileges handed down to subjects by the sovereign power; hence there was nothing positive about them. A new king or a new parliament could abrogate existing rights or extend them to other groups or establish new favorites. The Americans, however, insisted that in the nature of things all rights inhere in the individual, by virtue of his existence, and that he instituted government for the sole purpose of preventing one citizen from violating the rights of another. Sovereign power, they said, resides in the individual; the government is only an agency of his will. If it fails to carry out its duties properly, or if it itself presumes to invade his rights, then the moral thing to do is to kick it out. But, government is not an abstraction; it consists of people, and the inclination of all people is to improve upon their circumstances with whatever skills or capacities they possess and by whatever opportunities they meet up with. The power placed in the hands of this agency — to enforce the observance of an equality of rights — is in itself a temptation from which only the saintly are delivered. The Founding Fathers were therefore confronted with a difficult contradiction: men being what they are, a government is necessary; and government being what it is, men must be safeguarded against it. Their recipe was the Constitution. Whether or not the ensuing government would materialize the metaphysics of the Declaration, the Constitution was, at any rate, a definite pattern; and when it was ratified and put into operation, it became the end-product of the Revolution. To be sure, the Constitution cut corners around the doctrine of natural rights. We must remember that it was, after all, a political instrument, concocted by men. Only in its preamble can such an instrument serve the moralities; its working parts must be geared to the interests of the dominating groups in society, and hence it must be a compromise; to effect the compromise the moralities must be watered down. The Constitution was no exception. The assumed equality of rights was distinctly out of line with the profitable slave trade; owners of large estates wondered how it might affect their business; merchants and manufacturers deemed it dangerous to their preferred position. The Constitution was therefore so framed that the doctrine could not be employed to disrupt the status. There were many Americans who contended that the profit of the Revolution was liquidated by the Constitution and at their insistence a Bill of Rights was included.

The Basic Social Struggle
The Founding Fathers forged well. Putting aside what it might have been, the Constitution did pay homage to the doctrine of natural rights. It did so by the simple expedient of putting restraints and limitations on the powers of government. We learn from their published statements that the intent of the Founding Fathers was to prevent the despised "democrats," should they come into power, from using it for spoliation. They were quite forthright about it, and not a little could be said in favor of their thesis. In recent years the "mob" they feared has indeed come into power and the result seems to support the contention of Madison, Adams, and Hamilton. "The postulate of equality did not apply to human capacities or attributes, which are quite unequal and far beyond the scope of government…" But regardless of their argument and regardless of their intent, the Constitutional shackles did in fact, though perhaps inadvertently, protect the people in the enjoyment of their cherished rights. From this we learn a little heeded lesson in social science, namely, that the real struggle that disturbs the enjoyment of life is not between economic classes but between Society as a whole and the political power which imposes itself on Society. The class-struggle theory is a blind alley. True, people of like economic interests will gang up for the purpose of taking advantage of others. But within these classes there is as much rivalry as there is between the classes. When, however, you examine the advantage which one class obtains over another you find that the basis of it is political power. It is impossible for one person to exploit another, for one class to exploit another, without the aid of law and the force to back up the law. Examine any monopoly and you will find it resting on the State. So that the economic and social injustices we complain of are not due to economic inequalities, but to the political means that bring about these inequalities. If peace is to be brought into the social order it is not by accentuating a class struggle, but by restraining the basic cause of it; that is, the political power. To bring about a condition of equal rights, which is a condition of justice, the hands of the politician must be so tied that he cannot extend his activities beyond the simple duty of protecting life and property, his only competence. To the extent, then, that the Founding Fathers delimited the powers of the new government — by the system of checks and balances — to that extent did they render inestimable social service. And to that extent did they insure the victory of the Revolution.For about a century and a half the American citizen enjoyed, in the main, three immunities against the State: in respect to his property; in respect to his person; in respect to his thought and expression. Pressure upon them was constant, for in the pursuit of power the State is relentless, but the dikes of the Constitution held firm and so did the immunities. Only within our time did the State effect a vital breach in the Constitution, and in short order the American, no matter what his classification, was reduced to the status of subject, as he was before 1776. His citizenship shriveled up when the Sixteenth Amendment replaced the Declaration of Independence. The income tax completely destroys the immunity of property. It flatly declares a prior right of the State to all things produced. What it permits the individual to retain is a concession to expediency, not by any means a right; for the State retains the liberty to set rates and to fix exemptions from year to year, as its convenience dictates. Thus, the sacred right of private property is violated, and the fact that it is done pro forma makes the violation no less real than when it is done arbitrarily by an autocrat. The blanks we so dutifully fill out simply accentuate our degradation to subject status. Demagoguery loves to emphasize a distinction between human rights and property rights. The distinction is without validity and only serves to arouse envy. The right to own is the mark of a free man. The slave is a slave simply because he is denied that right. And because the free man is secure in the possession and enjoyment of what he produces, and the slave is not, the spur to production is in one and not in the other. Men produce to satisfy their desires and if their gratifications are curbed they cease to produce beyond the point of limitation; on the other hand the only limit to their aspirations is the freedom to enjoy the fruits of their labors."The American no longer regards his local government as anything more than an agency of the State." That fact, deep rooted in the nature of man, accounts for the progress of civilization when and where the right of property is recognized, and for the retrogression that follows from its denial. Property rights and human rights are more than complementary; they are identical. The income tax did more than revoke the immunity of property. It gave the State the means of effectively attacking the immunities of mind and of person; it transferred to the State that sovereignty which, according to the American theory, is lodged in the individual. In the final analysis, sovereignty is a matter of dollars. The more dollars the more sovereignty. The individual is no longer sovereign when his living is dependent on a superior will, when that will becomes dominant by the economic strength behind it. The edicts of the State are not self-enforcing, since they lack the voluntary support of public opinion, and are therefore only as effective as the size of the police force; but the police force must be paid, and since the payments must come out of the property of those upon whom the edicts fall, there is no standing up to it. Without an FBI, military co


Keith Olbermann delivers arguably his most pointed and most powerful Special Comment yet on the ramifications of Bush’s commutation of Libby’s sentence.
Thank you Nicole Belle for the transcript!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-united-states/

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Finally tonight, as promised, a Special Comment on what is, in everything but name, George Bush’s pardon of Scooter Libby. “I didn’t vote for him,” an American once said, “But he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” That — on this eve of the 4th of July — is the essence of this democracy, in seventeen words. And that is what President Bush threw away yesterday in commuting the sentence of Lewis “Scooter” Libby. The man who said those seventeen words — improbably enough — was the actor John Wayne. And Wayne, an ultra-conservative, said them, when he learned of the hair’s-breadth election of John F. Kennedy instead of his personal favorite, Richard Nixon in 1960. “I didn’t vote for him but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” The sentiment was doubtlessly expressed earlier. But there is something especially appropriate about hearing it, now, in Wayne’s voice. The crisp matter-of-fact acknowledgement that we have survived, even though for nearly two centuries now, our Commander-in-Chief has also served, simultaneously, as the head of one political party and often the scourge of all others. We as citizens must, at some point, ignore a president’s partisanship. Not that we may “prosper” as a nation, not that we may “achieve”, not that we may “lead the world” — but merely that we may “function.” But just as essential to the seventeen words of John Wayne is an implicit trust — a sacred trust:That the president for whom so many did not vote, can in turn suspend his political self long enough, and for matters imperative enough, to conduct himself solely for the benefit of the entire Republic. Our generation’s willingness to state “we didn’t vote for him, but he’s our president, and we hope he does a good job,” was tested in the crucible of history, and far earlier than most. And in circumstances more tragic and threatening. And we did that with which history tasked us. We enveloped “our” President in 2001. And those who did not believe he should have been elected — indeed, those who did not believe he had been elected — willingly lowered their voices and assented to the sacred oath of non-partisanship. And George W. Bush took our assent, and re-configured it, and honed it, and sharpened it to a razor-sharp point, and stabbed this nation in the back with it.

Were there any remaining lingering doubt otherwise, or any remaining lingering hope, it ended yesterday when Mr. Bush commuted the prison sentence of one of his own staffers. Did so even before the appeals process was complete… Did so without as much as a courtesy consultation with the Department of Justice… Did so despite what James Madison –at the Constitutional Convention — said about impeaching any president who pardoned or sheltered those who had committed crimes “advised by” that president… Did so without the slightest concern that even the most detached of citizens must look at the chain of events and wonder: To what degree was Mr. Libby told: break the law however you wish — the President will keep you out of prison? In that moment, Mr. Bush, you broke that fundamental compact between yourself and the majority of this nation’s citizens — the ones who did not cast votes for you. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you ceased to be the President of the United States. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you became merely the President… of a rabid and irresponsible corner of the Republican Party. And this is too important a time, sir, to have a Commander-in-Chief who puts party over nation. This has been, of course, the gathering legacy of this Administration. Few of its decisions have escaped the stain of politics. The extraordinary Karl Rove has spoken of “a permanent Republican majority,” as if such a thing — or a permanent Democratic majority — is not antithetical to that upon which rests: our country, our history, our revolution, our freedoms. Yet our democracy has survived shrewder men than Karl Rove. And it has survived the frequent stain of politics upon the fabric of government. But this administration, with ever-increasing insistence and almost theocratic zealotry, has turned that stain… into a massive oil spill. The protection of the environment is turned over to those of one political party, who will financially benefit from the rape of the environment. The protections of the Constitution are turned over to those of one political party, who believe those protections unnecessary and extravagant and “quaint.” The enforcement of the laws is turned over to those of one political party, who will swear beforehand that they will not enforce those laws. The choice between war and peace is turned over to those of one political party, who stand to gain vast wealth by ensuring that there is never peace, but only war.

And now, when just one cooked book gets corrected by an honest auditor… When just one trampling of the inherent and inviolable “fairness” of government is rejected by an impartial judge… When just one wild-eyed partisan is stopped by the figure of blind justice… This President decides that he, and not the law, must prevail.

I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war.
I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient.
I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors.
I accuse you of subverting the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but instead to stifle dissent.
I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought.
I accuse you of exploiting that unreasoning fear, the natural fear of your own people who just want to live their lives in peace, as a political tool to slander your critics and libel your opponents.
I accuse you of handing part of this republic over to a Vice President who is without conscience, and letting him run roughshod over it.
And I accuse you now, Mr. Bush, of giving, through that Vice President, carte blanche to Mr. Libby, to help defame Ambassador Joseph Wilson by any means necessary, to lie to Grand Juries and Special Counsel and before a court, in order to protect the mechanisms and particulars of that defamation, with your guarantee that Libby would never see prison, and, in so doing, as Ambassador Wilson himself phrased it here last night, of you becoming an accessory to the obstruction of justice.


When President Nixon ordered the firing of the Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox during the infamous “Saturday Night Massacre” on October 20th, 1973, Mr. Cox initially responded tersely, and ominously: “Whether ours shall be a government of laws and not of men, is now for Congress, and ultimately, the American people.” President Nixon did not understand how he had crystallized the issue of Watergate for the American people. It had been about the obscure meaning behind an attempt to break in to a rival party’s headquarters; and the labyrinthine effort to cover-up that break-in and the related crimes. But in one night, Nixon transformed it. Watergate — instantaneously — became a simpler issue: a President overruling the inexorable march of the law. Of insisting — in a way that resonated viscerally with millions who had not previously understood — that he was the law. Not the Constitution. Not the Congress. Not the Courts. Just him. Just - Mr. Bush - as you did, yesterday.

The twists and turns of Plame-Gate, your precise and intricate lies that sent us into this bottomless pit of Iraq; your lies upon the lies to discredit Joe Wilson; your lies upon the lies upon the lies to throw the sand at the “referee” of Prosecutor Fitzgerald’s analogy… these are complex and often painful to follow, and too much, perhaps, for the average citizen. But when other citizens render a verdict against your man, Mr. Bush — and then you spit in the faces of those jurors and that judge and the judges who were yet to hear the appeal — the average citizen understands that, sir. It’s the fixed ballgame and the rigged casino and the pre-arranged lottery all rolled into one — and it stinks. And they know it. Nixon’s mistake, the last and most fatal of them, the firing of Archibald Cox, was enough to cost him the presidency. And in the end, even Richard Nixon could say he could not put this nation through an impeachment. It was far too late for it to matter then, but as the decades unfold, that single final gesture of non-partisanship, of acknowledged responsibility not to self, not to party, not to “base,” but to country, echoes loudly into history. Even Richard Nixon knew it was time to resign Would that you could say that, Mr. Bush. And that you could say it for Mr. Cheney. You both crossed the Rubicon yesterday. Which one of you chose the route, no longer matters. Which is the ventriloquist, and which the dummy, is irrelevant. But that you have twisted the machinery of govern


I saw the Denver Airport murals before all the post-9/11 bandwagon jumpers came on the scene. It must be deliberate disinfo for the politically correct conspiracy theorist crowd as there's no way in hell little blonde boys are going to run the same System that degrades blondes by calling them dumb, portryaing them as villains in Hollywood movies or Bruckheimer & Wolf's "CSI" and "Law and Order"; the same system that pairs White blonde females with black males to promote genocide and taunt White men. Also, Denver airport is the centre of the underground "grey" alien base crowd - says it all.


"Still crazy after all these years."
Are you? How sad. Get help. You couldn't possibly be referring to me, as I haven't even been posting here for one year. More lies.

"crazy", "COINTELPRO stooge ", "stupid", "I doubt anyone with a third grade education".
That's how the commies operate. Jew slander and Ad Hominems - disagree and you're "stupid" and "insane". To the Gulag!

Oh and go fuck yourself, you laughably pathetic brazen liar truth-inverting disinfo tool.


"Or be honest about being a COINTELPRO stooge" Why? Because you're paranoid and go staight to outrageously phony accusations/lies when someone stands up to your precious Yooz?

"to assist in the strategy to haul all the jews to the Cheney/Halliburton/FEMA concentration camps" HA HA HA HA HA! LOL! What strategy, you loon? Once again theidiots on this page outdo themselves with ridiculous "jews as victims" lies and "DICK CHENEY RUNS THE NWO"! I don't blame you, he's about the only White gentile you can put all the blame on instaed of all the jews in governement rather than all those jews. Racist.

And would the poor, innocent victims-jews you speak of be the same ones wh run the US gibt, wrote the Project for a New American Century, own and run the media, control Hollywood, control the US as an Israeli cash/military colony and control the Federal reserve? The same ADL jews who wrote the "hate speech" anti-free speech laws?
I know you are disinfo but you REALLY must try harder and do better than that.
"I doubt anyone with a third grade education and access to the internet will believe it."
Anyone with a brain and net access has read the Talmud, knows what zionism/Israel is and is familiar with Communism (Marx & Engels jews) and the New York jew-street thugs (Trotsky= Bronstein) and jewish bankers (Schiff & Warburg) who took over Russia and killed half of Eastern Europe.


If immigration is a government conspiracy, who wins ?
Obviously, the corporate world may gain a little money, but the costs will eat that profit up too. Immigration isn't just a public thing, it affects the whole economy for everyone that are citizens. To make a legal citizen out of an illegal, doesn't solve the financial equation, it corrupts it.


Here are my choices:

1Ron Paul
2Mike Gravel
3Dennis Kucinich///all will get us out of Iraq, but Ron Paul is the only one that has complete grasp of the fiscal emergency we are in. At the moment we have over $100 Trillion in commitments through debtspending, well look at what wiki says about the plan that was used to bring about the third reich...The government then expanded the money supply through massive deficit spending. However at the same time the government imposed a 4.5% interest rate ceiling, creating a massive shortage in borrowable funds. This was resolved by setting up a series of dummy companies that would pay for goods with bonds. The most famous of these was the MEFO company, and these bonds used as currency became known as MEFO bills. While it was promised that these bonds could eventually be exchanged for real money, the repayment was put off until after the collapse of the Reich. These complicated manoeuvres also helped conceal armament expenditures that violated the Treaty of Versailles.

According to economic theory, price control combined with a large increase in the money supply should have produced a large black market, but harsh penalties that saw violators sent to concentration camps or even shot prevented this development. Repressive measures also kept volatility low, reducing inflationary pressures. New policies also limited imports of consumer goods and focused on producing exports. International trade was greatly reduced remaining at about a third of 1929 levels throughout the Nazi period. Currency controls were extended, leading to a considerable overvaluation of the Reichsmark. These policies were successful in cutting unemployment dramatically.

Most industry was not nationalized; however, industry was closely regulated with quotas and requirements to use domestic resources. These regulations were set by administrative committees composed of government and business officials. Competition was limited as major companies were organized into cartels through these administrative committees. Selective nationalization was used against businesses that failed to agree to these arrangements. The banks, which had been nationalized by the Weimar Republic, were returned to their owners and each administrative committee had a bank as member to finance the schemes.

While the strict state intervention into the economy, and the massive rearmament policy, led to full employment during the 1930s, real wages in Germany dropped by roughly 25% between 1933 and 1938. [4] Trade unions were abolished, as well as collective bargaining and the right to strike. [5] The right to quit also disappeared: Labour books were introduced in 1935, and required the consent of the previous employer in order to be hired for another job.


Or be honest about being a COINTELPRO stooge that is only blogging to assist in the strategy to haul all the jews to the Cheney/Halliburton/FEMA concentration camps. So you can either wake up (if you are just stupid) or be authentic (if you are a COINTELPRO agent-more likely). Of course you could just deny either of these, but I doubt anyone with a third grade education and access to the internet will believe it.


Still crazy after all these years.


"Illegal immigration is a government plot.
The counterculture is a government plot.
There are Illuminati symbols on Starbucks coffee cups. (The Illuminati leave clues visible only to angry white guys with IQ's in the mid-80's.) "

The ass who postetd this is laughably ignorant and too arrogant to be aware of his own ignorance. Racist to boot. Typical leftist - the size of his ego and mouth outstrip the size of his "intellect".

For others: I've seen the Egyptian-Masonic all-seeing eye symbol on/at Starbucks. It exists. The "60s" was an NWO production - marxist "protests" were funded by the USSR to $1 million dollars. Also that "tune out" guy who went around in a bus giving out LSD to unsuspecting people was CIA-backed.
As for illegals being a government plot - no explanation necessary, though the obviousness of that confirms Mr. Sarcastic idiot to be an ignorant moron or a left-wing psycho in total denial and UBER-SARCASM MODE!


To the cretin who keeps saying "white guy egoism". Come round my way so I can give you a corrective smack in the face.


It's not Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Ledeeen, Chertoff or the ADL.
Dick Cheney single-handedly runs the NWO!
("sane" delusionally believed I was avoiding that "stone" for some reason). The above jew zionists are innocent, framed by evil white man Cheney!
Yes, puppets (Cheney) are culpable, but so are the above-named puppet masters.


If the evil Talmud was written by Knights Templar to frame jews, then why do jews still embrace and teach it and have done for centuries, if they are innocent victims?
Didn't think it through, "sane", did you?


Does the mendacious "sane" still post here? I haven't dropped my promise to deconstruct his BIG lies - I've been too busy with other things to come back.
That said why waste my time trawling through his lies when one all-time whopper piece of judeo-apologism stands out - he says the Talmud was written by the Knights Templar to blame the jews! The CHUTZPAH of the guy! The Talmud is the smoking gun which PROVES jewish racsim and supremacy, yet the "sane" disinfo clown extends his "evil whites frame innocent jews" meme to unbelievable lengths! I shpuld think that is more than enough to obliterate his self-assumed "credibility" in the conspiracy world. That one was such a whopper I'm amazed that Burger King haven't been on the phone threatening legal action. I bet those jew warplanes that bombed Lebanese civilians to death last year were piloted by the Knights Templars who rose from their graves to fly Israeli jetplanes and bomb Lebanon so they could "blame the jews".
What a clown - and a bad liar at that.
And where is the "good" Talmud that say White people are OK? No doubt hidden by those evil Knights Templar.


Styx is cool.


But don't be fooled by the radio
The TV or the magazines
They show you photographs of how your life should be
But they're just someone else's fantasy
So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because you never win the game
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...

So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...

America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car
Someday soon we'll stop to ponder what on Earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder who the hell we are --


I am a conspiracy theorist, and proud of it. Page 10 is lonely. Hello !!! Is there any body in here? (Echo, echo, echo......)


AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH
Al Gores 20 room private mansion uses 20 times the national US average of gas and electricity. As Gore lavishes himself in his heated swimming pool, poor people and the middle class await the onslaught of "carbon taxes" to eviscerate any disposable income they have left.


Help Alex Jones: DIGG IT UP

http://www.digg.com/videos/ educa...sered_Terrorism


Haloscan is dead

Long live haloscan


EXECUTIVE ORDERS:

#10995- Seizure of all communications media in the United States.

#10997- Seizure of all electric power, fuels, and minerals, both public and private.

#10998- Seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private, all farms and farm equipment.

#10999- Seizure of all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind, and total control over all highways, seaports and waterways.

#11000- Seizure of all American people for work forces under Federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government has to.

#11001- Seizure of all health, education, and welfare facilities both public and private.

#11002- Empowers the Postmaster General to register all men, women, and children in the United States.

#11003- Seizure of all airports and aircraft.

#11004- Seizure of all housing and finance authorities, to establish Forced Relocation. Designates areas to be abandoned as "unsafe", establishes new locations for populations, relocates communities, builds new housing with public funds.

#11005- Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private.

#11051- Provides the Office of Emergency Planning COMPLETE AUTHORIZATION TO PUT THE ABOVE ORDERS INTO EFFECT IN TIMES OF INCREASED INTERNATIONAL TENSION, OR ECONOMIC OR FINANCIAL CRISIS.

#12919- Signed by Bill Clinton June 3rd, 1994. Encompasses all of the above Executive Orders.

*Flyers available of these orders from Militia of Montana for hand out to sheeple.


Good gun show today in Kansas City. Bought 4, no paypa......


Perhaps some of you on here can heed a lesson from this and stop routinely blurting out "Facsist" or "Nazi" unnecessarily (now you know how it feels to be falsely described!). Why not say "commie" or "marxist" instead? It's more accurate and it pisses off the left - and the PC types at Digg and Wikipedia?
Can you digg it?
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I do.

Alberto Gozalas is both.

lol


http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti...7/ 160407Jam.htm

alex on the show made sense about the incident, and its all on tape, and been exposed already like mad online too including audio! .. this is a good thing but.. "luke" .. I tend to disagree about him needing money for legal representation when the video spells it out so plainly. its obvious the building has small video cameras in little tinted domes mounted to the outside of the building near the entrance, it's obvious the thug was gleefully menacing and threatening luke there on the street.. we cant see the thugs claiming to be police in this video but it's pretty obvious they arent because they called the police to the scene, and it's pretty obvious the thug claimed luke a terrorist with a BOMB, the police taking camera and cell phone.. and also obvious the thug saying "larry doesnt like this doesnt want you here" acting on "larrys command". the video speaks for itself, I'd tend to think of itself it'd be a hit right out of the park, priceless!


Hey guys, what's your take on this wiki article? The components of fascism. They label nationalism, and anti-communism as bad (see their definitions). And say that both of these, as well as opposition to economic and political liberalism as a necessary part of fascism. Seems to be a bit commie to me, meaning, leads us to believe that liberalism will save us from fascism.
http://digg.com/politics/ What_Is...ay_Be_Surprised
TimM

Yes, you're absolutely right. I had to post rebuttals to some mad leftie concerning this on Google video recently. So THAT'S where he got it from! These silly lefties don't do their own research they just unquestioningly accept what "official" sources tell them even when those sources are simply left-biased.
You must have noticed that Wikipedia is very PC and has been known to censor/omit facts. Has anyone else noticed that the big, popular, mainstream sites promoted as such by the big media (Google, Youtube, Wikipedia) are all ultra-PC? I noticed recently that YouTube say something about "offensive" speech on its site - we all know that's just weasel code for "un-PC" speech. What hypocrites the left are - through the 60's and 70s they tore through society's standards and produced media propaganda styling themselves as the champions of absolute free speech & expression and anti-censorship of any kind. Now they have power it's a different story! They are only in favour of free speech when it comes to pornography or themselves. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Oh by the way this "Digg" site seems to be the latest big, "popular" net phenomenon - I'd never heard of it until Alex Jones criticised it for trying to bury the BBC WTC7 20 mins late story - and now this "article". Proves the point I made earlier about these ultra-PC websites posing as mainstream. See how excited they are with this article! Acting as though they've been validated by it, pretending it's credible even though it's not so they can have an excuse to label any non/anti-leftists as "Fascist".
Perhaps some of you on here can heed a lesson from this and stop routinely blurting out "Facsist" or "Nazi" unnecessarily (now you know how it feels to be falsely described!). Why not say "commie" or "marxist" instead? It's more accurate and it pisses off the left - and the PC types at Digg and Wikipedia?
Can you digg it?


I wish that I was there with those Silverstein goyim goombas rent-a-cops in their black trenchcoats. I would have showed them something out of MY backpack!


Police chief makes recently released prisoners sell crack for money, then they get busted (ROTF)

Sherriff's wife liked to have sex with the prisoners (lmfao)
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Dude, right fucking here, it is hilarious. Wear diapers caus ur gonna piss in ur pants:

http://www.madcowprod.com/newvid...ideo/ index.html


That was awesome today when Alex said that our perception of greed in others is often projection and a reflection of ourselves.


Testing: ponerogenic


Testing: [b]ponerogenic[/b]


Police chief makes recently released prisoners sell crack for money, then they get busted (ROTF)

Sherriff's wife liked to have sex with the prisoners (lmfao)
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show link, or did you make this up sane?


Skeletons from Giuliani’s closet: He was mayor while these two held Gotham to ransom…

Two highly decorated former detectives were convicted Thursday of moonlighting as hitmen for the mob in one of the most sensational cases of police corruption in New York history. Louis Eppolito, 57, and Steven Caracappa, 64, could get life in prison for their roles in eight murders committed between 1986 and 1990 while they were simultaneously on the payroll of both the NYPD and Luchese crime family underboss Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso, known as one of the most brutal mobsters in the city, and suspected of involvement in 36 murders. Federal prosecutor Daniel Wenner described the case as "the bloodiest, most violent betrayal of the badge this city has ever seen." Court documents accuse them of killing several mobsters in retaliation for the attempted murder of Casso.

Prosecutors said the two men carried out two hits themselves — in one case after pulling a mobster over in a phony traffic stop — and delivered up some of the other victims to the Mafia to be killed. According to testimony, the detectives "arrested" a mobster named Jimmy Hydell in 1986, but instead delivered him to Casso for torture and execution. Prosecutors said the two used their law enforcement positions to help the Mafia at a price of $4,000 per month — more if they personally handled a killing. They earned $65,000 for the phony traffic stop slaying shooting a Gambino family captain suspected in the assassination attempt

They were convicted of charges that included racketeering conspiracy, witness tampering, witness retaliation and obstruction of justice. Caracappa, who retired in 1992, helped establish the city police department's unit for Mafia murder investigations. Eppolito who wrote an autobiography titled Mafia Cop: The Story of an Honest Cop Whose Family Was the Mob, a much-praised street cop, became as well-known in the 1970s and '80s for his family links as the grandson, son and nephew of Mafia members as for his work as a police officer. chicagosyndicate.blogspot.com


Why are these articles un-sourced!? Rosie stated on the View that her departure was unrelated to 9/11. It had to do with money.
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But...BUT, that's just not "sensational" enough!!! There MUST be a conspiracy behind it! Didn't you know, EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.

You called your mom. She didn't answer the phone? Conspiracy!

Your kid got a D in school? Yup, you guessed it... CONSPIRACY!!

Trying to make a phone call with your cell phone, but can't get any bars? That's the new Star Wars energy beam discombobulator (TM Kenner.)

Late for work this morning? This was a good one, I need to explain how they did it:
The NWO spied on this board, tracked your movements for a few weeks and determined when you leave for work. Then they called in the UN troops to clog traffic when you left your house. Yeah, they're sneaky like that. Creepy, huh?

That car accident you drove past on the freeway? Well, let's just say that person was asking too many questions!

I know all this because I was told by a top level NSA insider, 2 local police officers in your county, and one of your co-workers that, for obvious reasons, all wish to remain anonymous. But there were 4 of them, so "trust me", it's credible.


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Amen!! The only thing I would add is that they also believe that they gain power through extremely evil sexual practices as well. You're very right, these people have got to go, forever! Very well written manifesto. Praise the Lord Jesus the Christ....

....in His name....

....ONLY True Peace,


Criminalizing natural health.
http://video.google.com/videopla...495233634& hl=en


On her blog, Rosie said that she left because she didn't want to be locked into a 3 year contract, and they wouldn't give her a one year contract. Alex says it was a free speech thing. There's different reasons given all over.


Hey guys, what's your take on this wiki article? The components of fascism. They label nationalism, and anti-communism as bad (see their definitions). And say that both of these, as well as opposition to economic and political liberalism as a necessary part of fascism. Seems to be a bit commie to me, meaning, leads us to believe that liberalism will save us from fascism.
http://digg.com/politics/ What_Is...ay_Be_Surprised


Manifesto:
The period in which we are living differs from the preceding one in that we are living experimentally what before could only be apprehended theoretically: the death of the American Republic. Our liberty is in danger like never before and we find ourselves in a trial of liberty. But there are certain individuals who have grossly abused their liberty and are becoming demonic, in so much as they are providing points of entry for demons. These demons are attempting to sieze our entire society, with the deliberate intention of swallowing up, first the nation and finally the whole world.

There is one infallible criterion by which we may distinguish all that is satanic and it was given by Jesus Himself:...."you are of your father the devil; the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and he stood not in the truth because the TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM....." These are the two signs which characterize the satanic:LYING AND MURDER.

Now lying and murder are the expression of the essence of NeoCon Republicanism. Never before have they been committed so entirely for their own sake, with such cold pre-meditation, with such complete fanaticism as being the motive life set forth for an entire nation. All information in the press and all announcements on TV breathe lies. All that the NeoCons say, write, and do is soaked in lies. NeoCon Republicanism is built on a lie.

There is a close connection between Satan and NeoCon Republicanism.
Satanic is the hatred of NeoCon Republicanism against the truth, justice and the rule of US Constitutional law.
Satanic are the methods of warfare and propaganda of NeoCon Republicanism.
Satanic are the brutality and cruelty, the torture and the killings of NeoCon Republicanism.
Satanic finally will be the disintegration and the fall of NeoCon Republicanism.

The lie on which NeoCon Republicanism is built is not merely error, that is human; it is more, it is the CONSCIOUS REVERSAL OF TRUTH. If the human spirit gives itself voluntarily to lying, it acts against its own metaphysical nature, which was made for truth. Only spiritual beings, which is what demons are, can live essentially in the perversity of the lie. Wherever lying has become the principle of life, the inner essence of intelligence, will and action, one can be sure that the forces of Satan are at work. This is the case in NeoCon Republicanism; it is satanic in its inmost nature. Its path is being marked by the heaped-up bodies of murdered men, women and children. This is why the NeoCon Republicans can only destroy and annihilate; it is their true satanic aim, always to annihilate.

The American people have no more urgent task than to exterminate NeoCon Republicanism down to its very last root, and to make sure its return is impossible. The spirit of NeoCon Republicanism is the spirit of neo-paganism. For them, all happiness, all salvation, both private and public, consists solely in this world's goods. This is why they feel the need to conquer, in order to gain more of this world's goods. Every means of doing so is permitted and exhalted, in fact, becomes a duty. The right to act thus becomes the key issue to their existence and any dissent or opposition then becomes a threat to their very existence and has to be destroyed.

One power alone is capable of banishing the forces of the devil and driving them back into the pit--redemption through Christ. At the Cross, the power of the demons is destroyed and in the last days, the kingdom of wickedness will be dissolved forever.


The term Gringo comes from the US army wearing green uniforms and the mexicans trying to say in english green go. It comes from the 1848 war i believe.


Why are these articles un-sourced!? Rosie stated on the View that her departure was unrelated to 9/11. It had to do with money.


Dan Rather is honest? Please. He was one of the main guys keeping JFK Truth from emerging.
Bonobo | Homepage | 04.25.07 - 3:59 pm | #

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And he's worked for the CIA for decades.

ONLY True Peace,


oneyedvet | 04.25.07 - 8:09 am | #

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Amen!!

ONLY True Peace,


Dear National Security Agency trolls:
What's it like to lie for a living? How does it make you feel to spy on the "serfs"? Do you think your special cause you have sold out free Americans for a New World Order payoff? How do you live with yourselves? Doesn't your conscience ever bother you about what you are doing? Don't you have any shame, morals, or principals? Do you think your "masters" love you? Are you even human anymore? Or are you just the willing slaves of the power hungry mega wealthy elite? It's hot in hell. And once your in it, you can't ever get out. You had better think very carefully about what you are doing. God only has so much patience. And you had better consider your personal credit line of his forgiveness, before it's too late.


Texas is like a whole 'nother country.... Hitler's Germany.
j gardner

No. More like communist East Germany.

"Micronazisoft word:" - sane

He's still pushing it, eh? The most mulit-culti, anti-White, affirmative action discrimination, scholarships for non-Whites, PC marketing campaigns, billions for Africa and AIDS.. is "Nazi".
Observe, people. Observe.


The new Sane webpage?


We Just Marched In (So We Can Just March Out)
by Ron Paul

Before the U.S. House of Representatives, April 17, 2007
http://informationliberation.com...n.com/? id=21677
All the reasons given to justify a preemptive strike against Iraq were wrong. Congress and the American people were misled.

Support for the war came from various special interests that had agitated for an invasion of Iraq since 1998. The Iraq Liberation Act, passed by Congress and signed into law by President Clinton, stated that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was official U.S. policy. This policy was carried out in 2003.

Congress failed miserably in meeting its crucial obligations as the branch of government charged with deciding whether to declare war. It wrongly and unconstitutionally transferred this power to the president, and the president did not hesitate to use it.

Although it is clear there was no cause for war, we just marched in. Our leaders deceived themselves and the public with assurances that the war was righteous and would be over quickly. Their justifications were false, and they failed to grasp even basic facts about the chaotic political and religious history of the region.

Congress bears the greater blame for this fiasco. It reneged on its responsibility to declare or not declare war. It transferred this decision-making power to the executive branch, and gave open sanction to anything the president did. In fact the founders diligently tried to prevent the executive from possessing this power, granting it to Congress alone in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.

Today just about everyone acknowledges the war has gone badly, and 70% of the American people want it to end. Our national defense is weakened, the financial costs continue to drain us, our allies have deserted us, and our enemies are multiplying � not to mention the tragic toll of death and injury suffered by American forces.

Iraq is a mess, and we urgently need a new direction � but our leaders offer only hand-wringing and platitudes. They have no clear-cut ideas to end the suffering and war. Even the most ardent war hawks cannot begin to define victory in Iraq.

As an Air Force officer serving from 1963�1968, I heard the same agonizing pleas from the American people. These pleas were met with the same excuses about why we could not change a deeply flawed policy and rethink the war in Vietnam. That bloody conflict, also undeclared and unconstitutional, seems to have taught us little despite the horrific costs.

Once again, though everyone now accepts that the original justifications for invading Iraq were not legitimate, we are given excuses for not leaving. We flaunt our power by building permanent military bases and an enormous billion-dollar embassy, yet claim we have no plans to stay in Iraq permanently. Assurances that our presence in Iraq has nothing to do with oil are not believed in the Middle East.

The argument for staying � to prevent civil war and bring stability to the region � logically falls on deaf ears.

If the justifications for war were wrong;

If the war is going badly;

If we can�t afford the costs, both human and economic;

If civil war and chaos have resulted from our occupation;

If the reasons for staying are no more credible than the reasons for going;

THEN�..

Why the dilemma? The American people have spoken, and continue to speak out, against this war. So why not end it? How do we end it? Why not exactly the way we went in? We just marched in, and we can just march out.

More good things may come of it than anyone can imagine. Consider our relationship with Vietnam, now our friendly trading partner. Certainly we are doing better with her than when we tried to impose our will by force. It is time to march out of Iraq and march home.


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Police chief makes recently released prisoners sell crack for money, then they get busted (ROTF)

Sherriff's wife liked to have sex with the prisoners (lmfao)

AWESOME SHIT

The guy who interviewed Mohammed Atta's girlfriend and found out theat he was a Bush Coke Mule out of the Iran Contra Venice, FL Airport (w/connection to Heaven's Gate ritual suicides) has a new documentary called:

THE SILENCING OF CAROL LAMB
http://www.madcowprod.com/newvid...ideo/ index.html
Dusty Foggo
Cunningham
Hunter
Brett Wilks
MASSIVE CIA CORRUPTION
Jay and Kelly Cambell Drugs, Sex, Money
John Deutch
Oliver North
Iran Contra
Jean Duffy - fired US Attorney for finding out what Carol Lamm knew
Barry Seal


Timeline

May 2006: The USPS submitted an omnibus postal rate increase to the PRC. This rate increase proposal included a provision that would increase the periodical rate by 11.7 percent -- a cost increase that was supposed to impact all publishers more or less equally.

February 2007: After a 10-month comment and testimony review period, the Postal Regulatory Commission released its 758-page recommended decision to the Postal Board of Governors. To the surprise of many, the PRC rejected the USPS planned periodical rate scheme, and replaced it with a scheme based on a complex proposal submitted by Time-Warner.

March 2007: The USPS allowed just 8 business days for formal responses to the 758 page February 26th recommendations. The recommended Time-Warner periodical proposal was so complex that smaller publishers couldn't adequately assess how the rate change would impact their businesses. On March 19, the Postal Board of Governors issued the final decision, adopting the PRC's February recommendations.

July 15, 2007: Without public action the change in the periodical rates goes into effect.


http://action.freepress.net/ free...xplanation.html
"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."
-- Thomas Jefferson, Jan. 16, 1787
What's at Stake

Our nation's founders understood the First Amendment would be worth little without a postal system that encouraged broad public participation in America's "marketplace of ideas."

Thomas Jefferson supported this with calls for a postal service that allowed citizens to gain "full information of their affairs," where ideas could "penetrate the whole mass of the people." Along with James Madison, he paved the way for a service that gave smaller political journals a voice. Their solution included low-cost mailing incentives whereby publications could reach as many readers as possible.

Other founders soon came to understand that the press as a political institution needed to be supported through favorable postal rates. President George Washington spoke out for free postage for newspapers through the mail, and Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton -- no proponent of government deficit -- conceded that incentives were necessary to spawn a viable press.

The postal policies that resulted have lasted for more than 200 years, spurring a vibrant political culture in the United States. They have eased the entry of diverse political viewpoints into a national discourse often dominated by the largest media organizations.
Time Warner Rewrites History

All of this could change in 2007.

In an unprecedented move, the agency that oversees postal rates in the United States has quietly attempted to unravel much of what the founders accomplished. Earlier this year, the Postal Regulatory Commission (PRC) rejected a postal rate increase plan offered by the U.S. Postal Service. Instead they opted to implement a complicated plan submitted by media giant Time Warner. (Click here to read the decision and click here for a timeline)

Under the original plan, all publishers would have a mostly equal increase (approx. 12 percent) in the cost for mailing their publications. The Time Warner plan overturned this level playing field to favor large, ad-heavy magazines like People at the expense of smaller publications like In These Times and The American Spectator. It penalizes thousands of small- to medium-sized outlets with disproportionately higher rates while locking in privileges for bigger companies.
Fight Back: Tell Congress to Act

The PRC has aligned itself with a media giant in an apparent effort to stifle smaller media in America. The stunning move is an unprecedented abuse of the agency's discretion. Congress must now step in to protect smaller media from these unfair rate hikes.

The Post Office should not use its monopoly power to favor the largest publishers and undermine the ability of smaller publishers to compete. It must be held accountable for a plan that could drive smaller publications to the brink of bankruptcy. With public involvement we can reverse the PRC decision and restore the postal system that has served free speech in America so well.

Demand a formal and open accounting of why more than 200 years of pro-democracy postal policy was abandoned.


Dan Rather is honest? Please. He was one of the main guys keeping JFK Truth from emerging.


And why are we waiting to charge US lawmakers with treason???????

Arab-Israeli lawmaker suspected of treason
dpa German Press Agency
Published: Wednesday April 25, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/dpa/ Ara...__04252007.html

Tel Aviv- A leading Arab-Israeli legislator who
mysteriously left the country two weeks ago is suspected of "aiding
the enemy in times of war" and money laundering, Israeli media
reported Wednesday.
A magistrates court in Petah Tiqva, near Tel Aviv, lifted a gag
order on the suspicions, three days after Azmi Bishara, of the
three-seat Balad party, suddenly emerged in Cairo, where he
submitted his resignation from the Knesset in a letter submitted to
the Israeli embassy to Egypt.

Bishara is suspected of submitting information to the Lebanese
Hezbollah movement during Israel's one-month war with the Shiite
militant group last summer. He is also suspected of receiving "large
amounts of money" from a "foreign agent," Israel Radio reported.

The 50-year-old lawmaker from the northern Arab-Israeli town of
Nazareth had already been interrogated twice on the suspicions by
the Israeli police, which granted a request by him to travel abroad
after he promised to return, the radio said.

The Petah Tiqva court partially lifted the gag order following a
petition by three Israeli media organizations and after Bishara's
resignation took effect Tuesday, 48 hours after he submitted his
letter of resignation to the Israeli embassy in Cairo.

Bishara had earlier hinted to Arab media that the charges against
him were "very serious," but said they were fabricated.

He has issued contradictory statements about whether he intends
to return to Israel.

Israeli authorities said Wednesday that he faced immediate arrest
if he returned from abroad.

© 2006 - dpa German Press Agenc


BTW - where the fuck is AK48?

He is supposed to protect me from posting without thorough evidence?



OK I'll get an update on VT later, for the moment let's take time to acknowledge the true victims of the war in Iraq:

Laura Bush appeared on the Today Show this morning in a one-on-one interview with Ann Curry. Curry asked her about the situation in Iraq, to which Mrs. Bush responded, "No one suffers more than their president and I do."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 20...fe_n_46804.html


I'm glad that Alex mentioned the communist set-up today on his show. I was getting confused at one point about this. We have to use our weapons for defense only. The offense is the infowar.


It's really good you are trying to figure this out Sane. I wish I had time to help. I'll try to keep up with your posts.
TimM | 04.25.07 - 3:37 pm | #

Dude we can't wait another 6 fucking years


It's really good you are trying to figure this out Sane. I wish I had time to help. I'll try to keep up with your posts.


Ok, here is the evidence for him doing the first set of killings:

someone saw him near the building before 7AM

Here is the evidence reported that he did the next set of murders:

there was a 9mm and 22 near his body

I am still waiting for just a little bit more evidence, especially with what can happen in 10 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h? v=cjRAcajFte0


Update: police are calling 7:30 am shooting, no links to cho and his first victims. so the cops did say it.

Never mind, just no links to his victims


Guys on CNN the cops said no link between 730am and 930am killings and no link of bomb threats to cho, BUT...

WHAT THE FUCK - These people are making this a bigger conspiracy by the minute (update: everyone is running with the second story!!!)

SCREEN SHOT THE LINKS THEY WILL CHANGE!!!!!!!!!
Well look at the story here:

http://www.kxly.com/news/?sect_r...& story_id=10472

Cho Seung-Hui, student identified by police as gunman who carried out the shootings at Virginia Tech

BLACKSBURG, VA. -- The gunman who carried out the massacre at Virginia Tech fired more than 170 rounds in nine minutes.

That's one of the new details police are providing about the case today.

But they say they still haven't determined a motive for the shooting rampage that left 33 people dead, including gunman Seung-Hui Cho.

Police say Cho had chained shut three public entrances in the building where most of the killings took place. That's where Cho was found dead of a bullet to his head, in a classroom surrounded by his victims.

Two other victims were gunned down two hours earlier at a dormitory across campus.

Investigators say they're still pursuing hundreds of leads, and sifting through e-mails, computer files and cell phone records.
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Now look at it on myFOX:
http://www.myfoxwghp.com/myfox/p...TY& pageId=3.2.1

Va. Tech Gunman Fired More Than 170 Shots Over 9 Minutes
Last Edited: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2007, 2:20 PM EDT
Created: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2007, 2:18 PM EDT
AP
By KRISTEN GELINEAU
Associated Press Writer
BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) The gunman who carried out the massacre at Virginia Tech fired more than 170 rounds in nine minutes and died with a bullet to his head in a classroom surrounded by his victims, authorities said Wednesday.

Police provided new details about the case at a news conference on the campus of Virginia Tech, but they said investigators still don't know what set the gunman off.

Seung-Hui Cho, 23, chained shut three public entrances to Norris Hall, the classroom building where he killed 30 students and teachers, police said. Two hours earlier, he had gunned down his first victims in a dormitory across campus.

State Police Superintendent Col. W. Steven Flaherty said Wednesday that investigators had compiled 500 pieces of evidence from Norris Hall but still had no answers about what motivated Cho to carry out such a bloody killing spree.

"We talk about possible motives and theories and whatnot, but we don't have any evidence to suggest anything," Flaherty said.

NOTICE THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE IN A KEY PIECE ON LONE GUNMAN EVIDENCE????????????????????????????????????????

Where the fuck did this sentence come from???????????????

"Two hours earlier, he had gunned down his first victims in a dormitory across campus."

HEY KRISTEN GELINEAU, WHO THE FUCK SAID HE????


WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Alex does a really good Don Corleone.

Hey guys, check this out. You can trade Prison Planet stock on Alexa.com I don't know what this is all about, but it seems interesting. Probably just people betting on how popular a site will be in a certain time period. I would doubt real money is involved.
http://alexadex.com/ad/index.py? ...risonplanet.com


Yah when Alex replayed the John Kerry clip again, my interpretation of what Kerry said is, when asked about A. Building 7 and B. Silverstein, was that he didn't know about a formal investigation into Silverstein, but "I do know that uh.. that.. that wall, I remember, was.. was in danger, and I think that they made the decision, based on the danger, that they had it .. in destroying other things... that they did it in a controlled fashion." it referring to WTC7. Then he tries to make Silverstein look good.
Personally, I agree with Alex. I have no doubt that the wall Kerry was referring to, that he said was in danger, was the protective slurry wall for the river, and that he was referring to building 7 being demolished, along with other things, on purpose, to protect the wall from further damage (which is bullcrap anyway because we know why they pulled WTC 7). Now... he may not have realized what the hell he was saying....
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Can the honey bees, be doing, why would it be like the weather?


But he wouldn't have referred to the side of building 7 as "a wall". He would have said that building 7 was in danger of falling because of the damage to the "side" of the building. But it doesn't matter because he said he believed that they destroyed it, among other things, in a controlled fashion. Sorry... needed to say that.


And if by chance Kerry was referring to the one wall on the side of building 7 that was damaged, he still said that they demolished the building on purpose because of the danger.


Yah when Alex replayed the John Kerry clip again, my interpretation of what Kerry said is, when asked about A. Building 7 and B. Silverstein, was that he didn't know about a formal investigation into Silverstein, but "I do know that uh.. that.. that wall, I remember, was.. was in danger, and I think that they made the decision, based on the danger, that they had it .. in destroying other things... that they did it in a controlled fashion." it referring to WTC7. Then he tries to make Silverstein look good.
Personally, I agree with Alex. I have no doubt that the wall Kerry was referring to, that he said was in danger, was the protective slurry wall for the river, and that he was referring to building 7 being demolished, along with other things, on purpose, to protect the wall from further damage (which is bullcrap anyway because we know why they pulled WTC 7). Now... he may not have realized what the hell he was saying....


The only thing stopping the new world order and it's executed scrums of controlled chaos is the patriotic belief's of a democratic and honest American system. If the good people of America let her fall, it's all over.

Absolute power, corrupts absolutely, as
the great depression was a carefully contrived occurrence by international bankers seeking to bring about a condition of despair so that they might emerge as the rulers of us all.
-Louis McFadden

Virtual puppets like Rove, Dick, the Neo-Cunt's, they want to be masters of the universe, but there are more people in the United States of America who don't want them to be. Bilderberger members, like the Clinton's are ready to pick up for the same masters where the Bush's left off. More people now know that the bank of England controls America's money system through the Federal Reserve and since the initial takeover of the central banking system have been playing American's in a cat and mouse routine. The "Empire" State building might have re-emerged as the tallest building, but the two lines through the S , the dollar symbol of satans saints, will come to not. By taking a shot at control of the oil valves around the world, Dick, Condi, Rummy Bush, those of whom that were all sloted for that special time frame by the elite's fortune tellers, they now know it's mission has failed. At least held back, simply because America is not as stupid as the lap dog media expected you to be.
Don't let them side track you with another inside job , like they did with 911. Common sense would force anyone to a