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RAWSTORY COMMENTS PROMOTE HUGE SPENDING FOR ROADS/BRIDGES
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"The organization estimated that 1.6 trillion dollars needed to be spent over a five-year period to bring US infrastructure up to good condition."Sorry, we NEED that money to fight them tahrrrists over in I-rak. Every great nation has fallen apart because of numerous ill-conceived foreign wars. Why should we be any exception?
CB | Email | Homepage | 08.02.07 - 3:31 pm
The terroists don't have to come over here to kill us. They can wait for Bush's incompetence to do it for them.With Bush running the country, you don't have to worry about suicide bombers, just falling bridges and hurricanes. Not to mention Chinese imports.
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Operation Mochingbird:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/
anal...ockingbird.html
http://
www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...mockingbird.htm
http://
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http://educationforum.ipbhost.co...?
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http://portland.indymedia.org/en...03/
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During a time of national emergency, our mainstream media is controlled by Department of Defense or outsourced Non-Government Organizations [Council on Foreign Affairs/American Enterprise Institute/Brookings/Heritage/etc.].
The 24/7 Military Ops News flood's purpose is to allow only one repeated explanation for what caused an emergency and how to handle it [just like on 9/11, 7/7, Tillman, Lynch, Abu Graib, etc.]. The method is to repeat the same thing over and over again without allowing dissenting voices to get in the way of the programming. In MK Ultra programming victims, they are often found listening to the same song over and over again for 20-40 hours straight, this is what we ave been subjected to with the bridge collapse information. The mainstream media has shown us the same visual of collapsed bridge on at least half the screen for over 24 hours on 4 stations.
This type of total spectrum media control can only be accomplished via a military type operation. The money and power it takes to do this points to the same elites that controlled the information dissemination from 9/11. This psychological warfare against the American people is already having an effect judging by the Raw Story comments.
The Deomocrats will be engaging in the Guns vs. Butter economic conversation. This is the economic theory that says we cannot afford but military and domestic spending and we therefore must give up one for the other. It revolves around the notion that we are powerless and only federal elites can make these important decisions. They therefore switch every 8-12 years from one to the other as we slowly become more indebted to the Federal Reserve [look at the past 70 years and see if it is true].
So what does it mean when the elites shift government spending to domestic programs? Well it allows for more infiltration of communist and socialist selloffs like education, infrastructure to a NAU type model, socialized medicine, even more control over the media, the loss of even more freedoms as we need to think of the masses rather than ourselves. Huge increase in taxes, national identification and confiscation of guns will also be needed as we are no longer free individuals but state and federal workers.
Since Hillary is so far ahead in the Democratic polls, she will probably start being seen as the SOLUTION in this staged CHAOS plan. Funny, she helped be the solution in the last staed CHAOS plan [9/11-iraq war and less civil rights].
Look at the obvious way these controlled national tragedies get set up:
War on Terrorism had a progression:
-93 bombing
-embassy bombings
-cole
-So when 9/11 came around, we never thought anything but Bin Laden
This new Domestic Spending Initiative also has a progression:
-Strapped state/infrastructure funding because Bush spends it all on foreign policy
-Berkely Bridge
-Semi was pinned a few days ago
-various reports that infrastructure is not maintained
-So when the Minnesota Bridge was demolished, Chris Dodd and other puppets could recite some historical evidence and we would believe it without investigating further.
Guess the next one will be aliens. I can see the RawStory comments now..."No one was thinking about the aliens. There were bills in congress to fund the alien research but we were too focused on rebuilding infrastructure to do anything about it."
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Personally I agree with the gist of many of the comments, that we have spent trillions and killed over a million for no reason whatsoever, however just like Hitler was a solution to the desperate times that Gemans were going through in the late 1920s early 1930s, this solution may make us worse of and especially if it is ignited via the control of media. We need to take media power away from the government. This power allows for total spectrum information control at the expense of free independent discourse. It also can prevent independent investigations into local, state, and national disasters. Disasters that sometimes seem to be staged events. We are then subjected to mass mind control via the MSM and now progressive blogs that embed the connections into our subconsious as we slowly move toward complete slavery.
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Wow, look at this loony idiot. He apparently thinks that Alex Jones is a neocon and his videos are nauseating. He apparently has a vendetta against Alex.
His video, "What the Hell Did Alex Jones Ever Know?":
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if name sane101 there, may have to open and close app couple times till a request to add to friends pops up.. once that works can go from there.
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sorry
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gonna nag ya into it I swear lol...
you want documentaries and other great stuff?
jump on in!
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yup, saw other day you re-posted all his toilet flushings, he's just another rich to me.
nice thing about FT chat, can kickban those types 
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hold on i wanna deal with this steve bs
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mornin'.. try again lol..
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looking like servers there are weak tonight maybe too, might be better in the morning, dont stop trying tho, its usually excellent.
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heck, this page is a little sticky too.
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messages can be a little sticky sometimes lol
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tried sane101 for ya, try disconnect/connect upper left.. might pop up then
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that the nickname ?
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check 4 me
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used to do winmx, but it blows anymore.
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we set up to a bit more secure on top of all that too.
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i chor do 
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you can also set up to run through a proxy server.. can be a little slower, and some proxy servers are monitored too. peer guardian keep most all the snoopers off, and its really rare to even get hits there.
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we set up to a bit more secure on top of all that too.
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users dont see each others IP# unless you send a note to someone and tick a box to include IP#, it's 128 bit encrypted so its reasonably secure too.
I know if I tried I could possibly grab someones IP# .. most dont know those games tho 
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this thing uses a protocol that sends ips got anything that uses http protocol?
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a) pick a nickname (to be ditched soon)
b) write down youre password so you can change nickname
c) holler in here that nickname so I can add ya
d) we do namechange and other details in there.
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whered ya go ? lol
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trouble with the install there ?
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no, but if you can make yours sane101 right now, holler when youre in, I can add to friends, it'll be the name popping up, button lower right, accept friend, accept invite... then we set you up better
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ur nick the same?
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once we got ya in there we change youre nickname and re-add again for anonymity
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www.filetopia.org
download it and install, use same nickname if possible.. like sane101 (write down youre password!!) I can add ya to friends for chat.
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the download says 124 days, you got some secret site for it?
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yup 
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this 10 ? lol
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NWO did 9/11.
NWO = Rothschild & Rockefeller.
USA today = Perle, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Feith, Chertoff...
Bring them down.
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4 guys??????
4 fucking guys????
and feith does not count he is missing so much grey matter that he is a chimp at best.
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NWO did 9/11.
NWO = Rothschild & Rockefeller.
USA today = Perle, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Feith, Chertoff...
Bring them down.
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A Modest Proposal By Jonathan Swift (1729)
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For Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland From Being Aburden to Their Parents or Country, and For Making Them Beneficial to The Public
It is a melancholy object to those who walk through this great town or travel in the country, when they see the streets, the roads, and cabin doors, crowded with beggars of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six children, all in rags and importuning every passenger for an alms. These mothers, instead of being able to work for their honest livelihood, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg sustenance for their helpless infants: who as they grow up either turn thieves for want of work, or leave their dear native country to fight for the Pretender in Spain, or sell themselves to the Barbadoes.
I think it is agreed by all parties that this prodigious number of children in the arms, or on the backs, or at the heels of their mothers, and frequently of their fathers, is in the present deplorable state of the kingdom a very great additional grievance; and, therefore, whoever could find out a fair, cheap, and easy method of making these children sound, useful members of the commonwealth, would deserve so well of the public as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the nation.
But my intention is very far from being confined to provide only for the children of professed beggars; it is of a much greater extent, and shall take in the whole number of infants at a certain age who are born of parents in effect as little able to support them as those who demand our charity in the streets.
As to my own part, having turned my thoughts for many years upon this important subject, and maturely weighed the several schemes of other projectors, I have always found them grossly mistaken in the computation. It is true, a child just dropped from its dam may be supported by her milk for a solar year, with little other nourishment; at most not above the value of 2s., which the mother may certainly get, or the value in scraps, by her lawful occupation of begging; and it is exactly at one year old that I propose to provide for them in such a manner as instead of being a charge upon their parents or the parish, or wanting food and raiment for the rest of their lives, they shall on the contrary contribute to the feeding, and partly to the clothing, of many thousands.
There is likewise another great advantage in my scheme, that it will prevent those voluntary abortions, and that horrid practice of women murdering their bastard children, alas! too frequent among us! sacrificing the poor innocent babes I doubt more to avoid the expense than the shame, which would move tears and pity in the most savage and inhuman breast.
The number of souls in this kingdom being usually reckoned one million and a half, of these I calculate there may be about two hundred thousand couple whose wives are breeders; from which number I subtract thirty thousand couples who are able to maintain their own children, although I apprehend there cannot be so many, under the present distresses of the kingdom; but this being granted, there will remain an hundred and seventy thousand breeders. I again subtract fifty thousand for those women who miscarry, or whose children die by accident or disease within the year. There only remains one hundred and twenty thousand children of poor parents annually born. The question therefore is, how this number shall be reared and provided for, which, as I have already said, under the present situation of affairs, is utterly impossible by all the methods hitherto proposed. For we can neither employ them in handicraft or agriculture; we neither build houses (I mean in the country) nor cultivate land: they can very seldom pick up a livelihood by stealing, till they arrive at six years old, except where they are of towardly parts, although I confess they learn the rudiments much earlier, during which time, they can however be properly looked upon only as probationers, as I have been informed by a principal gentleman in the county of Cavan, who protested to me that he never knew above one or two instances under the age of six, even in a part of the kingdom so renowned for the quickest proficiency in that art.
I am assured by our merchants, that a boy or a girl before twelve years old is no salable commodity; and even when they come to this age they will not yield above three pounds, or three pounds and half-a-crown at most on the exchange; which cannot turn to account either to the parents or kingdom, the charge of nutriment and rags having been at least four times that value.
I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.
I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout.
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A Modest Proposal By Jonathan Swift (1729)
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I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that of the hundred and twenty thousand children already computed, twenty thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one-fourth part to be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle or swine; and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in the sale to the persons of quality and fortune through the kingdom; always advising the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to render them plump and fat for a good table. A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter.
I have reckoned upon a medium that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds, and in a solar year, if tolerably nursed, increaseth to 28 pounds.
I grant this food will be somewhat dear, and therefore very proper for landlords, who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have the best title to the children.
Infant's flesh will be in season throughout the year, but more plentiful in March, and a little before and after; for we are told by a grave author, an eminent French physician, that fish being a prolific diet, there are more children born in Roman Catholic countries about nine months after Lent than at any other season; therefore, reckoning a year after Lent, the markets will be more glutted than usual, because the number of popish infants is at least three to one in this kingdom: and therefore it will have one other collateral advantage, by lessening the number of papists among us.
I have already computed the charge of nursing a beggar's child (in which list I reckon all cottagers, laborers, and four-fifths of the farmers) to be about two shillings per annum, rags included; and I believe no gentleman would repine to give ten shillings for the carcass of a good fat child, which, as I have said, will make four dishes of excellent nutritive meat, when he hath only some particular friend or his own family to dine with him. Thus the squire will learn to be a good landlord, and grow popular among his tenants; the mother will have eight shillings net profit, and be fit for work till she produces another child.
Those who are more thrifty (as I must confess the times require) may flay the carcass; the skin of which artificially dressed will make admirable gloves for ladies, and summer boots for fine gentlemen.
As to our city of Dublin, shambles may be appointed for this purpose in the most convenient parts of it, and butchers we may be assured will not be wanting; although I rather recommend buying the children alive, and dressing them hot from the knife, as we do roasting pigs.
A very worthy person, a true lover of his country, and whose virtues I highly esteem, was lately pleased in discoursing on this matter to offer a refinement upon my scheme. He said that many gentlemen of this kingdom, having of late destroyed their deer, he conceived that the want of venison might be well supplied by the bodies of young lads and maidens, not exceeding fourteen years of age nor under twelve; so great a number of both sexes in every country being now ready to starve for want of work and service; and these to be disposed of by their parents, if alive, or otherwise by their nearest relations. But with due deference to so excellent a friend and so deserving a patriot, I cannot be altogether in his sentiments; for as to the males, my American acquaintance assured me, from frequent experience, that their flesh was generally tough and lean, like that of our schoolboys by continual exercise, and their taste disagreeable; and to fatten them would not answer the charge. Then as to the females, it would, I think, with humble submission be a loss to the public, because they soon would become breeders themselves; and besides, it is not improbable that some scrupulous people might be apt to censure such a practice (although indeed very unjustly), as a little bordering upon cruelty; which, I confess, hath always been with me the strongest objection against any project, however so well intended.
But in order to justify my friend, he confessed that this expedient was put into his head by the famous Psalmanazar, a native of the island Formosa, who came from thence to London above twenty years ago, and in conversation told my friend, that in his country when any young person happened to be put to death, the executioner sold the carcass to persons of quality as a prime dainty; and that in his time the body of a plump girl of fifteen, who was crucified for an attempt to poison the emperor, was sold to his imperial majesty's prime minister of state, and other great mandarins of the court, in joints from the gibbet, at four hundred crowns. Neither indeed can I deny, that if the same use were made of several plump young girls in this town, who without one single groat to their fortunes cannot stir abroad without a chair, and appear at playhouse and assemblies in foreign fineries which they never will pay for, the kingdom would not be the worse.
Some persons of a desponding spirit are in great concern about that vast number of poor people, who are aged, diseased, or maimed, and I have been desired to employ my thoughts what course may be taken to ease the nation of so grievous an encumbrance. But I am not in the least pain upon that matter, because it is very well known that they are every day dying and rotting by cold and famine, and filth and vermin, as fast as can be reasonably expected. And as to the young laborers, they are now in as hopeful a condition; they cannot get work, and consequently pine away for want of nourishment, to a degree that if at any time they are accidentally hired to common labor, they have not strength to perform it; and thus the country and themselves are happily delivered from the evils to come.
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A Modest Proposal By Jonathan Swift (1729)
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I have too long digressed, and therefore shall return to my subject. I think the advantages by the proposal which I have made are obvious and many, as well as of the highest importance.
For first, as I have already observed, it would greatly lessen the number of papists, with whom we are yearly overrun, being the principal breeders of the nation as well as our most dangerous enemies; and who stay at home on purpose with a design to deliver the kingdom to the Pretender, hoping to take their advantage by the absence of so many good protestants, who have chosen rather to leave their country than stay at home and pay tithes against their conscience to an episcopal curate.
Secondly, The poorer tenants will have something valuable of their own, which by law may be made liable to distress and help to pay their landlord's rent, their corn and cattle being already seized, and money a thing unknown.
Thirdly, Whereas the maintenance of an hundred thousand children, from two years old and upward, cannot be computed at less than ten shillings a-piece per annum, the nation's stock will be thereby increased fifty thousand pounds per annum, beside the profit of a new dish introduced to the tables of all gentlemen of fortune in the kingdom who have any refinement in taste. And the money will circulate among ourselves, the goods being entirely of our own growth and manufacture.
Fourthly, The constant breeders, beside the gain of eight shillings sterling per annum by the sale of their children, will be rid of the charge of maintaining them after the first year.
Fifthly, This food would likewise bring great custom to taverns; where the vintners will certainly be so prudent as to procure the best receipts for dressing it to perfection, and consequently have their houses frequented by all the fine gentlemen, who justly value themselves upon their knowledge in good eating: and a skilful cook, who understands how to oblige his guests, will contrive to make it as expensive as they please.
Sixthly, This would be a great inducement to marriage, which all wise nations have either encouraged by rewards or enforced by laws and penalties. It would increase the care and tenderness of mothers toward their children, when they were sure of a settlement for life to the poor babes, provided in some sort by the public, to their annual profit instead of expense. We should see an honest emulation among the married women, which of them could bring the fattest child to the market. Men would become as fond of their wives during the time of their pregnancy as they are now of their mares in foal, their cows in calf, their sows when they are ready to farrow; nor offer to beat or kick them (as is too frequent a practice) for fear of a miscarriage.
Many other advantages might be enumerated. For instance, the addition of some thousand carcasses in our exportation of barreled beef, the propagation of swine's flesh, and improvement in the art of making good bacon, so much wanted among us by the great destruction of pigs, too frequent at our tables; which are no way comparable in taste or magnificence to a well-grown, fat, yearling child, which roasted whole will make a considerable figure at a lord mayor's feast or any other public entertainment. But this and many others I omit, being studious of brevity.
Supposing that one thousand families in this city, would be constant customers for infants flesh, besides others who might have it at merry meetings, particularly at weddings and christenings, I compute that Dublin would take off annually about twenty thousand carcasses; and the rest of the kingdom (where probably they will be sold somewhat cheaper) the remaining eighty thousand.
I can think of no one objection, that will possibly be raised against this proposal, unless it should be urged, that the number of people will be thereby much lessened in the kingdom. This I freely own, and 'twas indeed one principal design in offering it to the world. I desire the reader will observe, that I calculate my remedy for this one individual Kingdom of Ireland, and for no other that ever was, is, or, I think, ever can be upon Earth. Therefore let no man talk to me of other expedients: Of taxing our absentees at five shillings a pound: Of using neither cloaths, nor houshold furniture, except what is of our own growth and manufacture: Of utterly rejecting the materials and instruments that promote foreign luxury: Of curing the expensiveness of pride, vanity, idleness, and gaming in our women: Of introducing a vein of parsimony, prudence and temperance: Of learning to love our country, wherein we differ even from Laplanders, and the inhabitants of Topinamboo: Of quitting our animosities and factions, nor acting any longer like the Jews, who were murdering one another at the very moment their city was taken: Of being a little cautious not to sell our country and consciences for nothing: Of teaching landlords to have at least one degree of mercy towards their tenants. Lastly, of putting a spirit of honesty, industry, and skill into our shop-keepers, who, if a resolution could now be taken to buy only our native goods, would immediately unite to cheat and exact upon us in the price, the measure, and the goodness, nor could ever yet be brought to make one fair proposal of just dealing, though often and earnestly invited to it.
Therefore I repeat, let no man talk to me of these and the like expedients, 'till he hath at least some glympse of hope, that there will ever be some hearty and sincere attempt to put them into practice.
But, as to my self, having been wearied out for many years with offering vain, idle, visionary thoughts, and at length utterly despairing of success, I fortunately fell upon this proposal, which, as it is wholly new, so it hath something solid and real, of no expence and little trouble, full in our own power, and whereby we can incur no danger in disobliging England. For this kind of commodity will not bear exportation, and flesh being of too tender a consistence, to admit a long continuance in salt, although perhaps I could name a country, which would be glad to eat up our whole nation without it.
After all, I am not so violently bent upon my own opinion as to reject any offer proposed by wise men, which shall be found equally innocent, cheap, easy, and effectual. But before something of that kind shall be advanced in contradiction to my scheme, and offering a better, I desire the author or authors will be pleased maturely to consider two points. First, as things now stand, how they will be able to find food and raiment for an hundred thousand useless mouths and backs. And secondly, there being a round million of creatures in human figure throughout this kingdom, whose whole subsistence put into a common stock would leave them in debt two millions of pounds sterling, adding those who are beggars by profession to the bulk of farmers, cottagers, and laborers, with their wives and children who are beggars in effect: I desire those politicians who dislike my overture, and may perhaps be so bold as to attempt an answer, that they will first ask the parents of these mortals, whether they would not at this day think it a great happiness to have been sold for food, at a year old in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortunes as they have since gone through by the oppression of landlords, the impossibility of paying rent without money or trade, the want of common sustenance, with neither house nor clothes to cover them from the inclemencies of the weather, and the most inevitable prospect of entailing the like or greater miseries upon their breed for ever.
I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my country, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing.
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Time for Another Revolution
By Frank Chodorov
[From Chapter 4, One is a Crowd, by Frank Chodorov, 1952. Posted on http://www.mises.org/story/2633 July 4th, 2007]
http://www.mises.org/books/onecrowd.pdf
It all began, as you know, with the Declaration of Independence. The Americans stated their case, both as to the disabilities put upon them by the British Crown and as to the kind of government they considered it fitting for men to live under. The indictment was rejected and the issue was joined in battle. The god of war decided in favor of the Americans, insofar as removing the grievous rule was concerned; but in the establishment of a government to their liking the victors were on their own. Nobody could help them. Even history could not make a suggestion; for never had there been a political establishment constructed or operating on principles laid down in the Declaration. These principles, moreover, were quite metaphysical, completely outside the realm of experience. They were: (1) that all men are created equal, and, (2) that all men are endowed with inalienable rights. When you come down to it, the two metaphysical concepts are really one. For the postulate of equality did not apply to human capacities or attributes, which are quite unequal and far beyond the scope of government, but to the enjoyment of rights or prerogatives. In that respect, they maintained, all men must be considered on a par. This was a brand-new base for government. In all political science hitherto known it had been an axiom that rights were privileges handed down to subjects by the sovereign power; hence there was nothing positive about them. A new king or a new parliament could abrogate existing rights or extend them to other groups or establish new favorites. The Americans, however, insisted that in the nature of things all rights inhere in the individual, by virtue of his existence, and that he instituted government for the sole purpose of preventing one citizen from violating the rights of another. Sovereign power, they said, resides in the individual; the government is only an agency of his will. If it fails to carry out its duties properly, or if it itself presumes to invade his rights, then the moral thing to do is to kick it out. But, government is not an abstraction; it consists of people, and the inclination of all people is to improve upon their circumstances with whatever skills or capacities they possess and by whatever opportunities they meet up with. The power placed in the hands of this agency — to enforce the observance of an equality of rights — is in itself a temptation from which only the saintly are delivered. The Founding Fathers were therefore confronted with a difficult contradiction: men being what they are, a government is necessary; and government being what it is, men must be safeguarded against it. Their recipe was the Constitution. Whether or not the ensuing government would materialize the metaphysics of the Declaration, the Constitution was, at any rate, a definite pattern; and when it was ratified and put into operation, it became the end-product of the Revolution. To be sure, the Constitution cut corners around the doctrine of natural rights. We must remember that it was, after all, a political instrument, concocted by men. Only in its preamble can such an instrument serve the moralities; its working parts must be geared to the interests of the dominating groups in society, and hence it must be a compromise; to effect the compromise the moralities must be watered down. The Constitution was no exception. The assumed equality of rights was distinctly out of line with the profitable slave trade; owners of large estates wondered how it might affect their business; merchants and manufacturers deemed it dangerous to their preferred position. The Constitution was therefore so framed that the doctrine could not be employed to disrupt the status. There were many Americans who contended that the profit of the Revolution was liquidated by the Constitution and at their insistence a Bill of Rights was included.
The Basic Social Struggle
The Founding Fathers forged well. Putting aside what it might have been, the Constitution did pay homage to the doctrine of natural rights. It did so by the simple expedient of putting restraints and limitations on the powers of government. We learn from their published statements that the intent of the Founding Fathers was to prevent the despised "democrats," should they come into power, from using it for spoliation. They were quite forthright about it, and not a little could be said in favor of their thesis. In recent years the "mob" they feared has indeed come into power and the result seems to support the contention of Madison, Adams, and Hamilton. "The postulate of equality did not apply to human capacities or attributes, which are quite unequal and far beyond the scope of government…" But regardless of their argument and regardless of their intent, the Constitutional shackles did in fact, though perhaps inadvertently, protect the people in the enjoyment of their cherished rights. From this we learn a little heeded lesson in social science, namely, that the real struggle that disturbs the enjoyment of life is not between economic classes but between Society as a whole and the political power which imposes itself on Society. The class-struggle theory is a blind alley. True, people of like economic interests will gang up for the purpose of taking advantage of others. But within these classes there is as much rivalry as there is between the classes. When, however, you examine the advantage which one class obtains over another you find that the basis of it is political power. It is impossible for one person to exploit another, for one class to exploit another, without the aid of law and the force to back up the law. Examine any monopoly and you will find it resting on the State. So that the economic and social injustices we complain of are not due to economic inequalities, but to the political means that bring about these inequalities. If peace is to be brought into the social order it is not by accentuating a class struggle, but by restraining the basic cause of it; that is, the political power. To bring about a condition of equal rights, which is a condition of justice, the hands of the politician must be so tied that he cannot extend his activities beyond the simple duty of protecting life and property, his only competence. To the extent, then, that the Founding Fathers delimited the powers of the new government — by the system of checks and balances — to that extent did they render inestimable social service. And to that extent did they insure the victory of the Revolution.For about a century and a half the American citizen enjoyed, in the main, three immunities against the State: in respect to his property; in respect to his person; in respect to his thought and expression. Pressure upon them was constant, for in the pursuit of power the State is relentless, but the dikes of the Constitution held firm and so did the immunities. Only within our time did the State effect a vital breach in the Constitution, and in short order the American, no matter what his classification, was reduced to the status of subject, as he was before 1776. His citizenship shriveled up when the Sixteenth Amendment replaced the Declaration of Independence. The income tax completely destroys the immunity of property. It flatly declares a prior right of the State to all things produced. What it permits the individual to retain is a concession to expediency, not by any means a right; for the State retains the liberty to set rates and to fix exemptions from year to year, as its convenience dictates. Thus, the sacred right of private property is violated, and the fact that it is done pro forma makes the violation no less real than when it is done arbitrarily by an autocrat. The blanks we so dutifully fill out simply accentuate our degradation to subject status. Demagoguery loves to emphasize a distinction between human rights and property rights. The distinction is without validity and only serves to arouse envy. The right to own is the mark of a free man. The slave is a slave simply because he is denied that right. And because the free man is secure in the possession and enjoyment of what he produces, and the slave is not, the spur to production is in one and not in the other. Men produce to satisfy their desires and if their gratifications are curbed they cease to produce beyond the point of limitation; on the other hand the only limit to their aspirations is the freedom to enjoy the fruits of their labors."The American no longer regards his local government as anything more than an agency of the State." That fact, deep rooted in the nature of man, accounts for the progress of civilization when and where the right of property is recognized, and for the retrogression that follows from its denial. Property rights and human rights are more than complementary; they are identical. The income tax did more than revoke the immunity of property. It gave the State the means of effectively attacking the immunities of mind and of person; it transferred to the State that sovereignty which, according to the American theory, is lodged in the individual. In the final analysis, sovereignty is a matter of dollars. The more dollars the more sovereignty. The individual is no longer sovereign when his living is dependent on a superior will, when that will becomes dominant by the economic strength behind it. The edicts of the State are not self-enforcing, since they lack the voluntary support of public opinion, and are therefore only as effective as the size of the police force; but the police force must be paid, and since the payments must come out of the property of those upon whom the edicts fall, there is no standing up to it. Without an FBI, military co
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Keith Olbermann delivers arguably his most pointed and most powerful Special Comment yet on the ramifications of Bush’s commutation of Libby’s sentence.
Thank you Nicole Belle for the transcript!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-united-states/
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Finally tonight, as promised, a Special Comment on what is, in everything but name, George Bush’s pardon of Scooter Libby. “I didn’t vote for him,” an American once said, “But he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” That — on this eve of the 4th of July — is the essence of this democracy, in seventeen words. And that is what President Bush threw away yesterday in commuting the sentence of Lewis “Scooter” Libby. The man who said those seventeen words — improbably enough — was the actor John Wayne. And Wayne, an ultra-conservative, said them, when he learned of the hair’s-breadth election of John F. Kennedy instead of his personal favorite, Richard Nixon in 1960. “I didn’t vote for him but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” The sentiment was doubtlessly expressed earlier. But there is something especially appropriate about hearing it, now, in Wayne’s voice. The crisp matter-of-fact acknowledgement that we have survived, even though for nearly two centuries now, our Commander-in-Chief has also served, simultaneously, as the head of one political party and often the scourge of all others. We as citizens must, at some point, ignore a president’s partisanship. Not that we may “prosper” as a nation, not that we may “achieve”, not that we may “lead the world” — but merely that we may “function.” But just as essential to the seventeen words of John Wayne is an implicit trust — a sacred trust:That the president for whom so many did not vote, can in turn suspend his political self long enough, and for matters imperative enough, to conduct himself solely for the benefit of the entire Republic. Our generation’s willingness to state “we didn’t vote for him, but he’s our president, and we hope he does a good job,” was tested in the crucible of history, and far earlier than most. And in circumstances more tragic and threatening. And we did that with which history tasked us. We enveloped “our” President in 2001. And those who did not believe he should have been elected — indeed, those who did not believe he had been elected — willingly lowered their voices and assented to the sacred oath of non-partisanship. And George W. Bush took our assent, and re-configured it, and honed it, and sharpened it to a razor-sharp point, and stabbed this nation in the back with it.
Were there any remaining lingering doubt otherwise, or any remaining lingering hope, it ended yesterday when Mr. Bush commuted the prison sentence of one of his own staffers. Did so even before the appeals process was complete… Did so without as much as a courtesy consultation with the Department of Justice… Did so despite what James Madison –at the Constitutional Convention — said about impeaching any president who pardoned or sheltered those who had committed crimes “advised by” that president… Did so without the slightest concern that even the most detached of citizens must look at the chain of events and wonder: To what degree was Mr. Libby told: break the law however you wish — the President will keep you out of prison? In that moment, Mr. Bush, you broke that fundamental compact between yourself and the majority of this nation’s citizens — the ones who did not cast votes for you. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you ceased to be the President of the United States. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you became merely the President… of a rabid and irresponsible corner of the Republican Party. And this is too important a time, sir, to have a Commander-in-Chief who puts party over nation. This has been, of course, the gathering legacy of this Administration. Few of its decisions have escaped the stain of politics. The extraordinary Karl Rove has spoken of “a permanent Republican majority,” as if such a thing — or a permanent Democratic majority — is not antithetical to that upon which rests: our country, our history, our revolution, our freedoms. Yet our democracy has survived shrewder men than Karl Rove. And it has survived the frequent stain of politics upon the fabric of government. But this administration, with ever-increasing insistence and almost theocratic zealotry, has turned that stain… into a massive oil spill. The protection of the environment is turned over to those of one political party, who will financially benefit from the rape of the environment. The protections of the Constitution are turned over to those of one political party, who believe those protections unnecessary and extravagant and “quaint.” The enforcement of the laws is turned over to those of one political party, who will swear beforehand that they will not enforce those laws. The choice between war and peace is turned over to those of one political party, who stand to gain vast wealth by ensuring that there is never peace, but only war.
And now, when just one cooked book gets corrected by an honest auditor… When just one trampling of the inherent and inviolable “fairness” of government is rejected by an impartial judge… When just one wild-eyed partisan is stopped by the figure of blind justice… This President decides that he, and not the law, must prevail.
I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war.
I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient.
I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors.
I accuse you of subverting the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but instead to stifle dissent.
I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought.
I accuse you of exploiting that unreasoning fear, the natural fear of your own people who just want to live their lives in peace, as a political tool to slander your critics and libel your opponents.
I accuse you of handing part of this republic over to a Vice President who is without conscience, and letting him run roughshod over it.
And I accuse you now, Mr. Bush, of giving, through that Vice President, carte blanche to Mr. Libby, to help defame Ambassador Joseph Wilson by any means necessary, to lie to Grand Juries and Special Counsel and before a court, in order to protect the mechanisms and particulars of that defamation, with your guarantee that Libby would never see prison, and, in so doing, as Ambassador Wilson himself phrased it here last night, of you becoming an accessory to the obstruction of justice.
When President Nixon ordered the firing of the Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox during the infamous “Saturday Night Massacre” on October 20th, 1973, Mr. Cox initially responded tersely, and ominously: “Whether ours shall be a government of laws and not of men, is now for Congress, and ultimately, the American people.” President Nixon did not understand how he had crystallized the issue of Watergate for the American people. It had been about the obscure meaning behind an attempt to break in to a rival party’s headquarters; and the labyrinthine effort to cover-up that break-in and the related crimes. But in one night, Nixon transformed it. Watergate — instantaneously — became a simpler issue: a President overruling the inexorable march of the law. Of insisting — in a way that resonated viscerally with millions who had not previously understood — that he was the law. Not the Constitution. Not the Congress. Not the Courts. Just him. Just - Mr. Bush - as you did, yesterday.
The twists and turns of Plame-Gate, your precise and intricate lies that sent us into this bottomless pit of Iraq; your lies upon the lies to discredit Joe Wilson; your lies upon the lies upon the lies to throw the sand at the “referee” of Prosecutor Fitzgerald’s analogy… these are complex and often painful to follow, and too much, perhaps, for the average citizen. But when other citizens render a verdict against your man, Mr. Bush — and then you spit in the faces of those jurors and that judge and the judges who were yet to hear the appeal — the average citizen understands that, sir. It’s the fixed ballgame and the rigged casino and the pre-arranged lottery all rolled into one — and it stinks. And they know it. Nixon’s mistake, the last and most fatal of them, the firing of Archibald Cox, was enough to cost him the presidency. And in the end, even Richard Nixon could say he could not put this nation through an impeachment. It was far too late for it to matter then, but as the decades unfold, that single final gesture of non-partisanship, of acknowledged responsibility not to self, not to party, not to “base,” but to country, echoes loudly into history. Even Richard Nixon knew it was time to resign Would that you could say that, Mr. Bush. And that you could say it for Mr. Cheney. You both crossed the Rubicon yesterday. Which one of you chose the route, no longer matters. Which is the ventriloquist, and which the dummy, is irrelevant. But that you have twisted the machinery of govern
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I saw the Denver Airport murals before all the post-9/11 bandwagon jumpers came on the scene. It must be deliberate disinfo for the politically correct conspiracy theorist crowd as there's no way in hell little blonde boys are going to run the same System that degrades blondes by calling them dumb, portryaing them as villains in Hollywood movies or Bruckheimer & Wolf's "CSI" and "Law and Order"; the same system that pairs White blonde females with black males to promote genocide and taunt White men. Also, Denver airport is the centre of the underground "grey" alien base crowd - says it all.
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"Still crazy after all these years."
Are you? How sad. Get help. You couldn't possibly be referring to me, as I haven't even been posting here for one year. More lies.
"crazy", "COINTELPRO stooge ", "stupid", "I doubt anyone with a third grade education".
That's how the commies operate. Jew slander and Ad Hominems - disagree and you're "stupid" and "insane". To the Gulag!
Oh and go fuck yourself, you laughably pathetic brazen liar truth-inverting disinfo tool.
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"Or be honest about being a COINTELPRO stooge" Why? Because you're paranoid and go staight to outrageously phony accusations/lies when someone stands up to your precious Yooz?
"to assist in the strategy to haul all the jews to the Cheney/Halliburton/FEMA concentration camps" HA HA HA HA HA! LOL! What strategy, you loon? Once again theidiots on this page outdo themselves with ridiculous "jews as victims" lies and "DICK CHENEY RUNS THE NWO"! I don't blame you, he's about the only White gentile you can put all the blame on instaed of all the jews in governement rather than all those jews. Racist.
And would the poor, innocent victims-jews you speak of be the same ones wh run the US gibt, wrote the Project for a New American Century, own and run the media, control Hollywood, control the US as an Israeli cash/military colony and control the Federal reserve? The same ADL jews who wrote the "hate speech" anti-free speech laws?
I know you are disinfo but you REALLY must try harder and do better than that.
"I doubt anyone with a third grade education and access to the internet will believe it."
Anyone with a brain and net access has read the Talmud, knows what zionism/Israel is and is familiar with Communism (Marx & Engels jews) and the New York jew-street thugs (Trotsky= Bronstein) and jewish bankers (Schiff & Warburg) who took over Russia and killed half of Eastern Europe.
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If immigration is a government conspiracy, who wins ?
Obviously, the corporate world may gain a little money, but the costs will eat that profit up too. Immigration isn't just a public thing, it affects the whole economy for everyone that are citizens. To make a legal citizen out of an illegal, doesn't solve the financial equation, it corrupts it.
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Here are my choices:
1Ron Paul
2Mike Gravel
3Dennis Kucinich///all will get us out of Iraq, but Ron Paul is the only one that has complete grasp of the fiscal emergency we are in. At the moment we have over $100 Trillion in commitments through debtspending, well look at what wiki says about the plan that was used to bring about the third reich...The government then expanded the money supply through massive deficit spending. However at the same time the government imposed a 4.5% interest rate ceiling, creating a massive shortage in borrowable funds. This was resolved by setting up a series of dummy companies that would pay for goods with bonds. The most famous of these was the MEFO company, and these bonds used as currency became known as MEFO bills. While it was promised that these bonds could eventually be exchanged for real money, the repayment was put off until after the collapse of the Reich. These complicated manoeuvres also helped conceal armament expenditures that violated the Treaty of Versailles.
According to economic theory, price control combined with a large increase in the money supply should have produced a large black market, but harsh penalties that saw violators sent to concentration camps or even shot prevented this development. Repressive measures also kept volatility low, reducing inflationary pressures. New policies also limited imports of consumer goods and focused on producing exports. International trade was greatly reduced remaining at about a third of 1929 levels throughout the Nazi period. Currency controls were extended, leading to a considerable overvaluation of the Reichsmark. These policies were successful in cutting unemployment dramatically.
Most industry was not nationalized; however, industry was closely regulated with quotas and requirements to use domestic resources. These regulations were set by administrative committees composed of government and business officials. Competition was limited as major companies were organized into cartels through these administrative committees. Selective nationalization was used against businesses that failed to agree to these arrangements. The banks, which had been nationalized by the Weimar Republic, were returned to their owners and each administrative committee had a bank as member to finance the schemes.
While the strict state intervention into the economy, and the massive rearmament policy, led to full employment during the 1930s, real wages in Germany dropped by roughly 25% between 1933 and 1938. [4] Trade unions were abolished, as well as collective bargaining and the right to strike. [5] The right to quit also disappeared: Labour books were introduced in 1935, and required the consent of the previous employer in order to be hired for another job.
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Or be honest about being a COINTELPRO stooge that is only blogging to assist in the strategy to haul all the jews to the Cheney/Halliburton/FEMA concentration camps. So you can either wake up (if you are just stupid) or be authentic (if you are a COINTELPRO agent-more likely). Of course you could just deny either of these, but I doubt anyone with a third grade education and access to the internet will believe it.
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Still crazy after all these years.
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"Illegal immigration is a government plot.
The counterculture is a government plot.
There are Illuminati symbols on Starbucks coffee cups. (The Illuminati leave clues visible only to angry white guys with IQ's in the mid-80's.) "
The ass who postetd this is laughably ignorant and too arrogant to be aware of his own ignorance. Racist to boot. Typical leftist - the size of his ego and mouth outstrip the size of his "intellect".
For others: I've seen the Egyptian-Masonic all-seeing eye symbol on/at Starbucks. It exists. The "60s" was an NWO production - marxist "protests" were funded by the USSR to $1 million dollars. Also that "tune out" guy who went around in a bus giving out LSD to unsuspecting people was CIA-backed.
As for illegals being a government plot - no explanation necessary, though the obviousness of that confirms Mr. Sarcastic idiot to be an ignorant moron or a left-wing psycho in total denial and UBER-SARCASM MODE!
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To the cretin who keeps saying "white guy egoism". Come round my way so I can give you a corrective smack in the face.
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It's not Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Ledeeen, Chertoff or the ADL.
Dick Cheney single-handedly runs the NWO!
("sane" delusionally believed I was avoiding that "stone" for some reason). The above jew zionists are innocent, framed by evil white man Cheney!
Yes, puppets (Cheney) are culpable, but so are the above-named puppet masters.
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If the evil Talmud was written by Knights Templar to frame jews, then why do jews still embrace and teach it and have done for centuries, if they are innocent victims?
Didn't think it through, "sane", did you?
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Does the mendacious "sane" still post here? I haven't dropped my promise to deconstruct his BIG lies - I've been too busy with other things to come back.
That said why waste my time trawling through his lies when one all-time whopper piece of judeo-apologism stands out - he says the Talmud was written by the Knights Templar to blame the jews! The CHUTZPAH of the guy! The Talmud is the smoking gun which PROVES jewish racsim and supremacy, yet the "sane" disinfo clown extends his "evil whites frame innocent jews" meme to unbelievable lengths! I shpuld think that is more than enough to obliterate his self-assumed "credibility" in the conspiracy world. That one was such a whopper I'm amazed that Burger King haven't been on the phone threatening legal action. I bet those jew warplanes that bombed Lebanese civilians to death last year were piloted by the Knights Templars who rose from their graves to fly Israeli jetplanes and bomb Lebanon so they could "blame the jews".
What a clown - and a bad liar at that.
And where is the "good" Talmud that say White people are OK? No doubt hidden by those evil Knights Templar.
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Styx is cool.
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But don't be fooled by the radio
The TV or the magazines
They show you photographs of how your life should be
But they're just someone else's fantasy
So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because you never win the game
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...
So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...
America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car
Someday soon we'll stop to ponder what on Earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder who the hell we are --
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I am a conspiracy theorist, and proud of it. Page 10 is lonely. Hello !!! Is there any body in here? (Echo, echo, echo......)
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AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH
Al Gores 20 room private mansion uses 20 times the national US average of gas and electricity. As Gore lavishes himself in his heated swimming pool, poor people and the middle class await the onslaught of "carbon taxes" to eviscerate any disposable income they have left.
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Help Alex Jones: DIGG IT UP
http://www.digg.com/videos/
educa...sered_Terrorism
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Haloscan is dead
Long live haloscan
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EXECUTIVE ORDERS:
#10995- Seizure of all communications media in the United States.
#10997- Seizure of all electric power, fuels, and minerals, both public and private.
#10998- Seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private, all farms and farm equipment.
#10999- Seizure of all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind, and total control over all highways, seaports and waterways.
#11000- Seizure of all American people for work forces under Federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government has to.
#11001- Seizure of all health, education, and welfare facilities both public and private.
#11002- Empowers the Postmaster General to register all men, women, and children in the United States.
#11003- Seizure of all airports and aircraft.
#11004- Seizure of all housing and finance authorities, to establish Forced Relocation. Designates areas to be abandoned as "unsafe", establishes new locations for populations, relocates communities, builds new housing with public funds.
#11005- Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private.
#11051- Provides the Office of Emergency Planning COMPLETE AUTHORIZATION TO PUT THE ABOVE ORDERS INTO EFFECT IN TIMES OF INCREASED INTERNATIONAL TENSION, OR ECONOMIC OR FINANCIAL CRISIS.
#12919- Signed by Bill Clinton June 3rd, 1994. Encompasses all of the above Executive Orders.
*Flyers available of these orders from Militia of Montana for hand out to sheeple.
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Good gun show today in Kansas City. Bought 4, no paypa......
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Perhaps some of you on here can heed a lesson from this and stop routinely blurting out "Facsist" or "Nazi" unnecessarily (now you know how it feels to be falsely described!). Why not say "commie" or "marxist" instead? It's more accurate and it pisses off the left - and the PC types at Digg and Wikipedia?
Can you digg it?
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I do.
Alberto Gozalas is both.
lol
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti...7/
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alex on the show made sense about the incident, and its all on tape, and been exposed already like mad online too including audio! .. this is a good thing but.. "luke" .. I tend to disagree about him needing money for legal representation when the video spells it out so plainly. its obvious the building has small video cameras in little tinted domes mounted to the outside of the building near the entrance, it's obvious the thug was gleefully menacing and threatening luke there on the street.. we cant see the thugs claiming to be police in this video but it's pretty obvious they arent because they called the police to the scene, and it's pretty obvious the thug claimed luke a terrorist with a BOMB, the police taking camera and cell phone.. and also obvious the thug saying "larry doesnt like this doesnt want you here" acting on "larrys command". the video speaks for itself, I'd tend to think of itself it'd be a hit right out of the park, priceless!
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Hey guys, what's your take on this wiki article? The components of fascism. They label nationalism, and anti-communism as bad (see their definitions). And say that both of these, as well as opposition to economic and political liberalism as a necessary part of fascism. Seems to be a bit commie to me, meaning, leads us to believe that liberalism will save us from fascism.
http://digg.com/politics/ What_Is...ay_Be_Surprised
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Yes, you're absolutely right. I had to post rebuttals to some mad leftie concerning this on Google video recently. So THAT'S where he got it from! These silly lefties don't do their own research they just unquestioningly accept what "official" sources tell them even when those sources are simply left-biased.
You must have noticed that Wikipedia is very PC and has been known to censor/omit facts. Has anyone else noticed that the big, popular, mainstream sites promoted as such by the big media (Google, Youtube, Wikipedia) are all ultra-PC? I noticed recently that YouTube say something about "offensive" speech on its site - we all know that's just weasel code for "un-PC" speech. What hypocrites the left are - through the 60's and 70s they tore through society's standards and produced media propaganda styling themselves as the champions of absolute free speech & expression and anti-censorship of any kind. Now they have power it's a different story! They are only in favour of free speech when it comes to pornography or themselves. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
Oh by the way this "Digg" site seems to be the latest big, "popular" net phenomenon - I'd never heard of it until Alex Jones criticised it for trying to bury the BBC WTC7 20 mins late story - and now this "article". Proves the point I made earlier about these ultra-PC websites posing as mainstream. See how excited they are with this article! Acting as though they've been validated by it, pretending it's credible even though it's not so they can have an excuse to label any non/anti-leftists as "Fascist".
Perhaps some of you on here can heed a lesson from this and stop routinely blurting out "Facsist" or "Nazi" unnecessarily (now you know how it feels to be falsely described!). Why not say "commie" or "marxist" instead? It's more accurate and it pisses off the left - and the PC types at Digg and Wikipedia?
Can you digg it?
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I wish that I was there with those Silverstein goyim goombas rent-a-cops in their black trenchcoats. I would have showed them something out of MY backpack!
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Sherriff's wife liked to have sex with the prisoners (lmfao)
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Dude, right fucking here, it is hilarious. Wear diapers caus ur gonna piss in ur pants:
http://www.madcowprod.com/newvid...ideo/
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That was awesome today when Alex said that our perception of greed in others is often projection and a reflection of ourselves.
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Testing: ponerogenic
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Testing: [b]ponerogenic[/b]
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Police chief makes recently released prisoners sell crack for money, then they get busted (ROTF)
Sherriff's wife liked to have sex with the prisoners (lmfao)
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Skeletons from Giuliani’s closet: He was mayor while these two held Gotham to ransom…
Two highly decorated former detectives were convicted Thursday of moonlighting as hitmen for the mob in one of the most sensational cases of police corruption in New York history. Louis Eppolito, 57, and Steven Caracappa, 64, could get life in prison for their roles in eight murders committed between 1986 and 1990 while they were simultaneously on the payroll of both the NYPD and Luchese crime family underboss Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso, known as one of the most brutal mobsters in the city, and suspected of involvement in 36 murders. Federal prosecutor Daniel Wenner described the case as "the bloodiest, most violent betrayal of the badge this city has ever seen." Court documents accuse them of killing several mobsters in retaliation for the attempted murder of Casso.
Prosecutors said the two men carried out two hits themselves — in one case after pulling a mobster over in a phony traffic stop — and delivered up some of the other victims to the Mafia to be killed. According to testimony, the detectives "arrested" a mobster named Jimmy Hydell in 1986, but instead delivered him to Casso for torture and execution. Prosecutors said the two used their law enforcement positions to help the Mafia at a price of $4,000 per month — more if they personally handled a killing. They earned $65,000 for the phony traffic stop slaying shooting a Gambino family captain suspected in the assassination attempt
They were convicted of charges that included racketeering conspiracy, witness tampering, witness retaliation and obstruction of justice. Caracappa, who retired in 1992, helped establish the city police department's unit for Mafia murder investigations. Eppolito who wrote an autobiography titled Mafia Cop: The Story of an Honest Cop Whose Family Was the Mob, a much-praised street cop, became as well-known in the 1970s and '80s for his family links as the grandson, son and nephew of Mafia members as for his work as a police officer. chicagosyndicate.blogspot.com
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Why are these articles un-sourced!? Rosie stated on the View that her departure was unrelated to 9/11. It had to do with money.
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But...BUT, that's just not "sensational" enough!!! There MUST be a conspiracy behind it! Didn't you know, EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.
You called your mom. She didn't answer the phone? Conspiracy!
Your kid got a D in school? Yup, you guessed it... CONSPIRACY!!
Trying to make a phone call with your cell phone, but can't get any bars? That's the new Star Wars energy beam discombobulator (TM Kenner.)
Late for work this morning? This was a good one, I need to explain how they did it:
The NWO spied on this board, tracked your movements for a few weeks and determined when you leave for work. Then they called in the UN troops to clog traffic when you left your house. Yeah, they're sneaky like that. Creepy, huh?
That car accident you drove past on the freeway? Well, let's just say that person was asking too many questions!
I know all this because I was told by a top level NSA insider, 2 local police officers in your county, and one of your co-workers that, for obvious reasons, all wish to remain anonymous. But there were 4 of them, so "trust me", it's credible. 
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Amen!! The only thing I would add is that they also believe that they gain power through extremely evil sexual practices as well. You're very right, these people have got to go, forever! Very well written manifesto. Praise the Lord Jesus the Christ....
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Criminalizing natural health.
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On her blog, Rosie said that she left because she didn't want to be locked into a 3 year contract, and they wouldn't give her a one year contract. Alex says it was a free speech thing. There's different reasons given all over.
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Hey guys, what's your take on this wiki article? The components of fascism. They label nationalism, and anti-communism as bad (see their definitions). And say that both of these, as well as opposition to economic and political liberalism as a necessary part of fascism. Seems to be a bit commie to me, meaning, leads us to believe that liberalism will save us from fascism.
http://digg.com/politics/
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Manifesto:
The period in which we are living differs from the preceding one in that we are living experimentally what before could only be apprehended theoretically: the death of the American Republic. Our liberty is in danger like never before and we find ourselves in a trial of liberty. But there are certain individuals who have grossly abused their liberty and are becoming demonic, in so much as they are providing points of entry for demons. These demons are attempting to sieze our entire society, with the deliberate intention of swallowing up, first the nation and finally the whole world.
There is one infallible criterion by which we may distinguish all that is satanic and it was given by Jesus Himself:...."you are of your father the devil; the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and he stood not in the truth because the TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM....." These are the two signs which characterize the satanic:LYING AND MURDER.
Now lying and murder are the expression of the essence of NeoCon Republicanism. Never before have they been committed so entirely for their own sake, with such cold pre-meditation, with such complete fanaticism as being the motive life set forth for an entire nation. All information in the press and all announcements on TV breathe lies. All that the NeoCons say, write, and do is soaked in lies. NeoCon Republicanism is built on a lie.
There is a close connection between Satan and NeoCon Republicanism.
Satanic is the hatred of NeoCon Republicanism against the truth, justice and the rule of US Constitutional law.
Satanic are the methods of warfare and propaganda of NeoCon Republicanism.
Satanic are the brutality and cruelty, the torture and the killings of NeoCon Republicanism.
Satanic finally will be the disintegration and the fall of NeoCon Republicanism.
The lie on which NeoCon Republicanism is built is not merely error, that is human; it is more, it is the CONSCIOUS REVERSAL OF TRUTH. If the human spirit gives itself voluntarily to lying, it acts against its own metaphysical nature, which was made for truth. Only spiritual beings, which is what demons are, can live essentially in the perversity of the lie. Wherever lying has become the principle of life, the inner essence of intelligence, will and action, one can be sure that the forces of Satan are at work. This is the case in NeoCon Republicanism; it is satanic in its inmost nature. Its path is being marked by the heaped-up bodies of murdered men, women and children. This is why the NeoCon Republicans can only destroy and annihilate; it is their true satanic aim, always to annihilate.
The American people have no more urgent task than to exterminate NeoCon Republicanism down to its very last root, and to make sure its return is impossible. The spirit of NeoCon Republicanism is the spirit of neo-paganism. For them, all happiness, all salvation, both private and public, consists solely in this world's goods. This is why they feel the need to conquer, in order to gain more of this world's goods. Every means of doing so is permitted and exhalted, in fact, becomes a duty. The right to act thus becomes the key issue to their existence and any dissent or opposition then becomes a threat to their very existence and has to be destroyed.
One power alone is capable of banishing the forces of the devil and driving them back into the pit--redemption through Christ. At the Cross, the power of the demons is destroyed and in the last days, the kingdom of wickedness will be dissolved forever.
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The term Gringo comes from the US army wearing green uniforms and the mexicans trying to say in english green go. It comes from the 1848 war i believe.
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Why are these articles un-sourced!? Rosie stated on the View that her departure was unrelated to 9/11. It had to do with money.
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Dan Rather is honest? Please. He was one of the main guys keeping JFK Truth from emerging.
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Dear National Security Agency trolls:
What's it like to lie for a living? How does it make you feel to spy on the "serfs"? Do you think your special cause you have sold out free Americans for a New World Order payoff? How do you live with yourselves? Doesn't your conscience ever bother you about what you are doing? Don't you have any shame, morals, or principals? Do you think your "masters" love you? Are you even human anymore? Or are you just the willing slaves of the power hungry mega wealthy elite? It's hot in hell. And once your in it, you can't ever get out. You had better think very carefully about what you are doing. God only has so much patience. And you had better consider your personal credit line of his forgiveness, before it's too late.
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Texas is like a whole 'nother country.... Hitler's Germany.
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No. More like communist East Germany.
"Micronazisoft word:" - sane
He's still pushing it, eh? The most mulit-culti, anti-White, affirmative action discrimination, scholarships for non-Whites, PC marketing campaigns, billions for Africa and AIDS.. is "Nazi".
Observe, people. Observe.
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We Just Marched In (So We Can Just March Out)
by Ron Paul
Before the U.S. House of Representatives, April 17, 2007
http://informationliberation.com...n.com/?
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All the reasons given to justify a preemptive strike against Iraq were wrong. Congress and the American people were misled.
Support for the war came from various special interests that had agitated for an invasion of Iraq since 1998. The Iraq Liberation Act, passed by Congress and signed into law by President Clinton, stated that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was official U.S. policy. This policy was carried out in 2003.
Congress failed miserably in meeting its crucial obligations as the branch of government charged with deciding whether to declare war. It wrongly and unconstitutionally transferred this power to the president, and the president did not hesitate to use it.
Although it is clear there was no cause for war, we just marched in. Our leaders deceived themselves and the public with assurances that the war was righteous and would be over quickly. Their justifications were false, and they failed to grasp even basic facts about the chaotic political and religious history of the region.
Congress bears the greater blame for this fiasco. It reneged on its responsibility to declare or not declare war. It transferred this decision-making power to the executive branch, and gave open sanction to anything the president did. In fact the founders diligently tried to prevent the executive from possessing this power, granting it to Congress alone in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.
Today just about everyone acknowledges the war has gone badly, and 70% of the American people want it to end. Our national defense is weakened, the financial costs continue to drain us, our allies have deserted us, and our enemies are multiplying � not to mention the tragic toll of death and injury suffered by American forces.
Iraq is a mess, and we urgently need a new direction � but our leaders offer only hand-wringing and platitudes. They have no clear-cut ideas to end the suffering and war. Even the most ardent war hawks cannot begin to define victory in Iraq.
As an Air Force officer serving from 1963�1968, I heard the same agonizing pleas from the American people. These pleas were met with the same excuses about why we could not change a deeply flawed policy and rethink the war in Vietnam. That bloody conflict, also undeclared and unconstitutional, seems to have taught us little despite the horrific costs.
Once again, though everyone now accepts that the original justifications for invading Iraq were not legitimate, we are given excuses for not leaving. We flaunt our power by building permanent military bases and an enormous billion-dollar embassy, yet claim we have no plans to stay in Iraq permanently. Assurances that our presence in Iraq has nothing to do with oil are not believed in the Middle East.
The argument for staying � to prevent civil war and bring stability to the region � logically falls on deaf ears.
If the justifications for war were wrong;
If the war is going badly;
If we can�t afford the costs, both human and economic;
If civil war and chaos have resulted from our occupation;
If the reasons for staying are no more credible than the reasons for going;
THEN�..
Why the dilemma? The American people have spoken, and continue to speak out, against this war. So why not end it? How do we end it? Why not exactly the way we went in? We just marched in, and we can just march out.
More good things may come of it than anyone can imagine. Consider our relationship with Vietnam, now our friendly trading partner. Certainly we are doing better with her than when we tried to impose our will by force. It is time to march out of Iraq and march home.
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Sherriff's wife liked to have sex with the prisoners (lmfao)
AWESOME SHIT
The guy who interviewed Mohammed Atta's girlfriend and found out theat he was a Bush Coke Mule out of the Iran Contra Venice, FL Airport (w/connection to Heaven's Gate ritual suicides) has a new documentary called:
THE SILENCING OF CAROL LAMB
http://www.madcowprod.com/newvid...ideo/
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Cunningham
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MASSIVE CIA CORRUPTION
Jay and Kelly Cambell Drugs, Sex, Money
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Timeline
May 2006: The USPS submitted an omnibus postal rate increase to the PRC. This rate increase proposal included a provision that would increase the periodical rate by 11.7 percent -- a cost increase that was supposed to impact all publishers more or less equally.
February 2007: After a 10-month comment and testimony review period, the Postal Regulatory Commission released its 758-page recommended decision to the Postal Board of Governors. To the surprise of many, the PRC rejected the USPS planned periodical rate scheme, and replaced it with a scheme based on a complex proposal submitted by Time-Warner.
March 2007: The USPS allowed just 8 business days for formal responses to the 758 page February 26th recommendations. The recommended Time-Warner periodical proposal was so complex that smaller publishers couldn't adequately assess how the rate change would impact their businesses. On March 19, the Postal Board of Governors issued the final decision, adopting the PRC's February recommendations.
July 15, 2007: Without public action the change in the periodical rates goes into effect.
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"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."
-- Thomas Jefferson, Jan. 16, 1787
What's at Stake
Our nation's founders understood the First Amendment would be worth little without a postal system that encouraged broad public participation in America's "marketplace of ideas."
Thomas Jefferson supported this with calls for a postal service that allowed citizens to gain "full information of their affairs," where ideas could "penetrate the whole mass of the people." Along with James Madison, he paved the way for a service that gave smaller political journals a voice. Their solution included low-cost mailing incentives whereby publications could reach as many readers as possible.
Other founders soon came to understand that the press as a political institution needed to be supported through favorable postal rates. President George Washington spoke out for free postage for newspapers through the mail, and Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton -- no proponent of government deficit -- conceded that incentives were necessary to spawn a viable press.
The postal policies that resulted have lasted for more than 200 years, spurring a vibrant political culture in the United States. They have eased the entry of diverse political viewpoints into a national discourse often dominated by the largest media organizations.
Time Warner Rewrites History
All of this could change in 2007.
In an unprecedented move, the agency that oversees postal rates in the United States has quietly attempted to unravel much of what the founders accomplished. Earlier this year, the Postal Regulatory Commission (PRC) rejected a postal rate increase plan offered by the U.S. Postal Service. Instead they opted to implement a complicated plan submitted by media giant Time Warner. (Click here to read the decision and click here for a timeline)
Under the original plan, all publishers would have a mostly equal increase (approx. 12 percent) in the cost for mailing their publications. The Time Warner plan overturned this level playing field to favor large, ad-heavy magazines like People at the expense of smaller publications like In These Times and The American Spectator. It penalizes thousands of small- to medium-sized outlets with disproportionately higher rates while locking in privileges for bigger companies.
Fight Back: Tell Congress to Act
The PRC has aligned itself with a media giant in an apparent effort to stifle smaller media in America. The stunning move is an unprecedented abuse of the agency's discretion. Congress must now step in to protect smaller media from these unfair rate hikes.
The Post Office should not use its monopoly power to favor the largest publishers and undermine the ability of smaller publishers to compete. It must be held accountable for a plan that could drive smaller publications to the brink of bankruptcy. With public involvement we can reverse the PRC decision and restore the postal system that has served free speech in America so well.
Demand a formal and open accounting of why more than 200 years of pro-democracy postal policy was abandoned.
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Dan Rather is honest? Please. He was one of the main guys keeping JFK Truth from emerging.
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And why are we waiting to charge US lawmakers with treason???????
Arab-Israeli lawmaker suspected of treason
dpa German Press Agency
Published: Wednesday April 25, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/dpa/
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Tel Aviv- A leading Arab-Israeli legislator who
mysteriously left the country two weeks ago is suspected of "aiding
the enemy in times of war" and money laundering, Israeli media
reported Wednesday.
A magistrates court in Petah Tiqva, near Tel Aviv, lifted a gag
order on the suspicions, three days after Azmi Bishara, of the
three-seat Balad party, suddenly emerged in Cairo, where he
submitted his resignation from the Knesset in a letter submitted to
the Israeli embassy to Egypt.
Bishara is suspected of submitting information to the Lebanese
Hezbollah movement during Israel's one-month war with the Shiite
militant group last summer. He is also suspected of receiving "large
amounts of money" from a "foreign agent," Israel Radio reported.
The 50-year-old lawmaker from the northern Arab-Israeli town of
Nazareth had already been interrogated twice on the suspicions by
the Israeli police, which granted a request by him to travel abroad
after he promised to return, the radio said.
The Petah Tiqva court partially lifted the gag order following a
petition by three Israeli media organizations and after Bishara's
resignation took effect Tuesday, 48 hours after he submitted his
letter of resignation to the Israeli embassy in Cairo.
Bishara had earlier hinted to Arab media that the charges against
him were "very serious," but said they were fabricated.
He has issued contradictory statements about whether he intends
to return to Israel.
Israeli authorities said Wednesday that he faced immediate arrest
if he returned from abroad.
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BTW - where the fuck is AK48?
He is supposed to protect me from posting without thorough evidence?

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OK I'll get an update on VT later, for the moment let's take time to acknowledge the true victims of the war in Iraq:
Laura Bush appeared on the Today Show this morning in a one-on-one interview with Ann Curry. Curry asked her about the situation in Iraq, to which Mrs. Bush responded, "No one suffers more than their president and I do."
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I'm glad that Alex mentioned the communist set-up today on his show. I was getting confused at one point about this. We have to use our weapons for defense only. The offense is the infowar.
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It's really good you are trying to figure this out Sane. I wish I had time to help. I'll try to keep up with your posts.
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Dude we can't wait another 6 fucking years
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It's really good you are trying to figure this out Sane. I wish I had time to help. I'll try to keep up with your posts.
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Ok, here is the evidence for him doing the first set of killings:
someone saw him near the building before 7AM
Here is the evidence reported that he did the next set of murders:
there was a 9mm and 22 near his body
I am still waiting for just a little bit more evidence, especially with what can happen in 10 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h?
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Update: police are calling 7:30 am shooting, no links to cho and his first victims. so the cops did say it.
Never mind, just no links to his victims
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Guys on CNN the cops said no link between 730am and 930am killings and no link of bomb threats to cho, BUT...
WHAT THE FUCK - These people are making this a bigger conspiracy by the minute (update: everyone is running with the second story!!!)
SCREEN SHOT THE LINKS THEY WILL CHANGE!!!!!!!!!
Well look at the story here:
http://www.kxly.com/news/?sect_r...& story_id=10472
Cho Seung-Hui, student identified by police as gunman who carried out the shootings at Virginia Tech
BLACKSBURG, VA. -- The gunman who carried out the massacre at Virginia Tech fired more than 170 rounds in nine minutes.
That's one of the new details police are providing about the case today.
But they say they still haven't determined a motive for the shooting rampage that left 33 people dead, including gunman Seung-Hui Cho.
Police say Cho had chained shut three public entrances in the building where most of the killings took place. That's where Cho was found dead of a bullet to his head, in a classroom surrounded by his victims.
Two other victims were gunned down two hours earlier at a dormitory across campus.
Investigators say they're still pursuing hundreds of leads, and sifting through e-mails, computer files and cell phone records.
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Now look at it on myFOX:
http://www.myfoxwghp.com/myfox/p...TY& pageId=3.2.1
Va. Tech Gunman Fired More Than 170 Shots Over 9 Minutes
Last Edited: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2007, 2:20 PM EDT
Created: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2007, 2:18 PM EDT
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BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) The gunman who carried out the massacre at Virginia Tech fired more than 170 rounds in nine minutes and died with a bullet to his head in a classroom surrounded by his victims, authorities said Wednesday.
Police provided new details about the case at a news conference on the campus of Virginia Tech, but they said investigators still don't know what set the gunman off.
Seung-Hui Cho, 23, chained shut three public entrances to Norris Hall, the classroom building where he killed 30 students and teachers, police said. Two hours earlier, he had gunned down his first victims in a dormitory across campus.
State Police Superintendent Col. W. Steven Flaherty said Wednesday that investigators had compiled 500 pieces of evidence from Norris Hall but still had no answers about what motivated Cho to carry out such a bloody killing spree.
"We talk about possible motives and theories and whatnot, but we don't have any evidence to suggest anything," Flaherty said.
NOTICE THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE IN A KEY PIECE ON LONE GUNMAN EVIDENCE????????????????????????????????????????
Where the fuck did this sentence come from???????????????
"Two hours earlier, he had gunned down his first victims in a dormitory across campus."
HEY KRISTEN GELINEAU, WHO THE FUCK SAID HE????
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WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Alex does a really good Don Corleone.
Hey guys, check this out. You can trade Prison Planet stock on Alexa.com I don't know what this is all about, but it seems interesting. Probably just people betting on how popular a site will be in a certain time period. I would doubt real money is involved.
http://alexadex.com/ad/index.py?
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Yah when Alex replayed the John Kerry clip again, my interpretation of what Kerry said is, when asked about A. Building 7 and B. Silverstein, was that he didn't know about a formal investigation into Silverstein, but "I do know that uh.. that.. that wall, I remember, was.. was in danger, and I think that they made the decision, based on the danger, that they had it .. in destroying other things... that they did it in a controlled fashion." it referring to WTC7. Then he tries to make Silverstein look good.
Personally, I agree with Alex. I have no doubt that the wall Kerry was referring to, that he said was in danger, was the protective slurry wall for the river, and that he was referring to building 7 being demolished, along with other things, on purpose, to protect the wall from further damage (which is bullcrap anyway because we know why they pulled WTC 7). Now... he may not have realized what the hell he was saying....
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But he wouldn't have referred to the side of building 7 as "a wall". He would have said that building 7 was in danger of falling because of the damage to the "side" of the building. But it doesn't matter because he said he believed that they destroyed it, among other things, in a controlled fashion. Sorry... needed to say that.
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And if by chance Kerry was referring to the one wall on the side of building 7 that was damaged, he still said that they demolished the building on purpose because of the danger.
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Yah when Alex replayed the John Kerry clip again, my interpretation of what Kerry said is, when asked about A. Building 7 and B. Silverstein, was that he didn't know about a formal investigation into Silverstein, but "I do know that uh.. that.. that wall, I remember, was.. was in danger, and I think that they made the decision, based on the danger, that they had it .. in destroying other things... that they did it in a controlled fashion." it referring to WTC7. Then he tries to make Silverstein look good.
Personally, I agree with Alex. I have no doubt that the wall Kerry was referring to, that he said was in danger, was the protective slurry wall for the river, and that he was referring to building 7 being demolished, along with other things, on purpose, to protect the wall from further damage (which is bullcrap anyway because we know why they pulled WTC 7). Now... he may not have realized what the hell he was saying....
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The only thing stopping the new world order and it's executed scrums of controlled chaos is the patriotic belief's of a democratic and honest American system. If the good people of America let her fall, it's all over.
Absolute power, corrupts absolutely, as
the great depression was a carefully contrived occurrence by international bankers seeking to bring about a condition of despair so that they might emerge as the rulers of us all.
-Louis McFadden
Virtual puppets like Rove, Dick, the Neo-Cunt's, they want to be masters of the universe, but there are more people in the United States of America who don't want them to be. Bilderberger members, like the Clinton's are ready to pick up for the same masters where the Bush's left off. More people now know that the bank of England controls America's money system through the Federal Reserve and since the initial takeover of the central banking system have been playing American's in a cat and mouse routine. The "Empire" State building might have re-emerged as the tallest building, but the two lines through the S , the dollar symbol of satans saints, will come to not. By taking a shot at control of the oil valves around the world, Dick, Condi, Rummy Bush, those of whom that were all sloted for that special time frame by the elite's fortune tellers, they now know it's mission has failed. At least held back, simply because America is not as stupid as the lap dog media expected you to be.
Don't let them side track you with another inside job , like they did with 911. Common sense would force anyone to ask why would any country attack America now and give them an excuse to blow you off the map? After seeing what has been done to Iraq, you don't pat a rabid dog.
Don't forget to watch Bill Moyers tomorrow on the roles of the press in the invasion of Iraq. It's to be a real hard hitter.
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P.S.---Give me Biblical-only proof that Michael the Archangel isn't Jesus the Christ
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/ ..._details_66.htm
this isnt exactly biblical proof but it is a damnable strong argument, drop the bucks for it if you dare.
the chronology and geography support the theory very well, so does the theology.
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hell no,.no mess wi dat wicca witch n-a-o-m-i--its her mind man!all in her wicca mind she,hex man!!
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like naomi ya called and had sex with a marriedmcop, told his wife,and he is pissed. then ya,go meet all the cops,.one quit,ovr yur alligations just bevaus ethy helped ya,wicca.what about theat prison riot,in Indiana man,give them somadvice wicca witch,wahat that,man in college he got drunk and tottalle dhis car,it was in the news paper you clip it,out go to the college and post the article all overm and put in the den sofficem,shortly that poor man was fired and cimmite suicide/!yo do play fair, and that cops oy found he was taking frugs drugs and turned them in after they showed ya the spot,secret, man yo bad news, they all got in troubel,ya ho.ya wicca ho, i do th ho, baby,i learn ya, wicca man, i no m,ess,hex, yo hexes real, no joke mix,thao o stuff fru your daddys & witchcraft ya get n=a-o-m-i.,woow,wow,do th ho down,o.,,.997743233
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nationwide 911 truth exposure=priceless
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I like your idea. I like your poetic way of writing too.
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hey!naomi!was ya doing in the demon bb,ya,yur the most powerful wicca witch,in da world,you make isalands almost sink,.ya,911,you cool gal!when yo come back to la,yo buddies want some lovin, you naomin-a-o-m-i-ya gang bangers,you grew up with the east la thangg, wayya picking on that cola fur?ya all grew up with us east la,why you mad girl?!~ya wicca witch,.you paly bad, with yo daddys leather,bag,from hollywood,ya pappy was an ex-freemason,yo ho!
yo the biggest ho in the universe,miss devine wicca,.you three dudes, ya drove to suicide,real,those cosp ya tuirn into fbi, one quit after ya,told ya stay way,far from playing with the devil, told ya your pappys frreemason,and mixing wicca craft wootld bring ruin,you visions, and ya do allk in that mind of yers, scary witch ho naomi!you put me of idsability,after i cross ya, i learn no mess witht he queen wiccc ho!man!
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About the Honeybees disapperance: There is something the mad sciencists aren't telling us...with all the genetic engeneering with the queens...honeybees don't leave without "A QUEEN" meaning they have a queen with them...if they left without a queen...they are all dead...maybe we should watch the movie "X-files"
They have been fucking with the genetics of the queens like everything else...even our genetics!
You woud think that people out there would have witnessed the honeybees leaving...the sky is black with thousands of honeybees moving like as a force...it can be vey frightening to some...they would have reported it to someone out there...some people when stung by a bee can die...so whats up with this shut?
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WICKED!!!! A video of 9/11 Truth from the producer of the best video on the AIDS Hoax out there. Finally, people from all areas of truth are getting together. : )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h?
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And who will be taking us to the FEMA camps?
http://video.google.com/videopla...duration%
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http://video.google.com/videopla...duration%
3Along
Blackwater USA, infamous in the Falluja massacre, is proposing an 824-acre facility in a valley just north of Potrero, a small town (~850 ... all » people) on SR 94 about 1 hour east of San Diego. The project description submitted by Blackwater includes: * Military style training facility on 824 acres in Potrero, California, for 300 students and 60 staff members. * 9 carbine ranges, 300 x 225 ft. each * 1 carbine range, 600 x 225 ft. o NOTE: the Potrero planning group has been told verbally that there would be only 8 ranges instead of 10. * 5 pistol ranges, 150 x 150 ft. each * 2 live-fire fully ballistic multi-level shoot houses, 4,600 sq ft each * 15 live-fire fully ballistic single-level shoot houses, 20 x 60 (1200 sqft) each * 2 mile tactical driving track with gasoline storage tank. * 350 foot diameter EVOC skid pad. * 400 foot diameter helipad * 33,000 square foot urban simulation training area composed of shipping crates stacked to simulate city buildings on paved streets * 1 training tower, 5 level, 40 x 20 ft., 800 sq. ft. total * 1 training tower, 6 level, 24 x 48ft., 1,152 sq. ft. total * 4 ship simulators, 3 levels, indoor-outdoor, made of stacked shipping containers. * 1 Armory building for storage of guns and ammunition, 18,000 sq. ft. * 2 Dormitory buildings, 18,000 sq. ft. each * 2 classroom buildings, 18,000 sq. ft. each * 1 Defensive training building, 10,000 sq. ft. * 1 Dining hall, 10,000 sq. ft. * 1 Facility maintenance building, 18,000 sq. ft. * Various other buildings totaling 13,280 sq. ft.
Even if you don't live in Potrero, you should be concerned about this project. It is converting a sensitive habitat, including a portion of the Cleveland National Forest and bordering BLM lands, into a heavy-use facility with noise (gunfire), water needs and pollution, air pollution, traffic congestion, etc. It is just a very bad idea.
Oh it is all in the Denver International Airport Murals:
This is where the children get pissed at the systematic destruction of the earth (mountain on fire in the background, penguin in glass, dying leapord) and genicide based on race (jewish girl, negro woman, and indian in coffins):
http://www.flydenver.com/guide/a...detail.asp?
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This is where the children rise up and kill the Blackwater stormtroopers under the auspice of saving the environment and erasing all racism through eliminating borders, merging all flags, singing happy songs, getting weapons on the side, while our English Royal Family Child-King ostensibly destroys weapons over the dead blackwater stormtrooper:
http://www.flydenver.com/guide/a...detail.asp?
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lock yourself in, its gonna be a bumpy ride.
It was exposed 15 years ago:
http://video.google.com/
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More on the murals and DIA:
http://www.anomalies-
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How come Don Imus gets fired and Bill O'Reilly doesn't?
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Rosie turned down her contract. Top video, press play for her blog entry this morning.
http://www.rosie.com/
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this blackwater in action, mercenaries not accountable to laws our troops are, doing horrible things and more than likely funded by tax dollars.
the mainstream news tells us about contractors being killed in the middle east and we think about CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS.. buildings and repairs etc... not friggin hired hitmen. understand this rhetoric, misleading usage of words.
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Yup and we are being conditioned to accept prison life as normal through 5 hours a day of MSNBC programming.
Out of 57 "documentaries with minimal commercial time on MSNBC, 23% have the word lockup in the title. On the scheduling site
http://www.msnbc.com/
they only list it as documentary, then programming decides recently to run 80% lockup dockumentaries trumping the other 44.
Here are all the names for the 57 documentaries, notice any other words that make you scared to be alive? How about a documentary on what it means to be a patriot like dan wallace????
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036750/
Super Size Me 'Born in the Wrong Body' Essay: Trapped in a man's body Essay: 'I never felt like a girl' Book excerpt: 'Transparent' Photos: 'Born in the Wrong Body' Killer speaks Journeys with George Predator Raw: The Unseen Tapes Documentary: Medical care in the battle zone War zone diary ‘For God & Country’: A Marine sniper’s story Lockup Q&A: Spring Creek, Alaska Anna Nicole Smith dies after collapse My brother is ‘The Unabomber’ Death in the Hollywood Hills Children for sale The will to survive Countdown to Doomsday To Catch a Predator: Petaluma Mt. Hood's deadly history Sheriff: Hope climbers are 'in a hole somewhere' A rescuer’s hope on Mount Hood No Place for a Child Faith and hope in a snow cave Victims struggle to heal in 'Beyond Conviction' Lockup: Riverbend Terror in North Hollywood Lockup: Anamosa Hollywood Vice The Hitman Tapes Beyond Conviction Lockup: Pelican Bay Lockup: San Quentin Coroner: Death on the Street Tattoos: Skin Deep Lockup: Utah State Prison MSNBC Reports: Broken Vows Lockup: New Mexico Death Row Diary The Predator Next Door Lockup: Kern Valley Lockup: Kentucky State MSNBC Investigates: Blood Brothers Lockup: Miami-Dade MSNBC Investigates: Mercy for a Murderer? Baltimore Shock Trauma A Democracy of Photographs Lockup: Valley State 'Rising From Ruin' Essay: ‘New Orleans is still crying’ Held Hostage Lockup: Corcoran Vegas Homicide, Death in the Desert Lockup: The Criminal Mind The Vampire Killings MSNBC Investigates: Buried Alive
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this blackwater in action, mercenaries not accountable to laws our troops are, doing horrible things and more than likely funded by tax dollars.
the mainstream news tells us about contractors being killed in the middle east and we think about CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS.. buildings and repairs etc... not friggin hired hitmen. understand this rhetoric, misleading usage of words.
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http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/
its the 1st place winner on this page
silverstein thugs.
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I thought it was familiar; it is part of the 70 minute documentary that Dan Wallace was doing when he mysteriously died in his sleep at the ripe old "Logan's Run" age of 23. He found out after interviewing Sliver's friend of his limo driver that Sliver got a phone call on 9/11/2001 not to go into work, then called his daughter to cancel their daily breakfast meeting on the top of the tower:
http://video.google.com/videopla...duration%
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Earthlike planet 20 light years away (Hey whose lobbying for the outsourcing rights?):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
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WH special investigator is under investigation:
http://www.citizensforethics.org....org/node/
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Brzezinski gets confronted by friend of Dan Wallace, son of 911 murdered firefighter that died mysteriously in his sleep a few hours before a scheduled meeting with the producers of the most widely viewed 911 truth film, loose change (getting near half a billion views, translated in over 10 languages):
http://www.calgary911truth.org/
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Kevin Tillman's testimony showing total manipulated fraud in 4 special investigations into his brother's murder (BTW - Tillman supposedly had a connection with Noam Chomsky before he was killed by his own men after waving that he was an American soldier-anyone cave corroborating evidence on this???):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h?
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Jessica Lynch's testimony confirming rumors that her hero story was a total fabrication. She was knocked out and her standard issue gun jammed in the heat of the moment. She never fired a shot):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h?
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Pipe bomb suspect that manipulated stock prices was just arrested:
http://cbs2chicago.com/
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Eerily similar techniques to the Unabomber (wonder if they have a similar past?):
http://www.counterpunch.org/tedk.html
And of course all of this follows the 25 year old master plan from the UNCED meeting:
http://video.google.com/
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Thanks to TimM and AK48 for the info 
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So Texas is going to allow for an expansion of wiretapping to all kinds of communication devices.
And yesterday they allowed for an expansion of the death penalty. Maybe someone can stop it from becoming law.
Thank God they only meet for only 4 months every other year.
Why should it be surprising that these elitist, rich lawyers should do anything to make Texas a more humane and better state. (the only people who could afford to be a congressmen are the well off because it only pays something like $100 a week).
They live in there cozy gated communities and sip mint julibs in their McMansions. And since most are lawyers, they probably make money defending folks who are recipients of their laws.
Do we hear how they want to investigate the possibility that many folks were wrongly convicted in Dallas County?
No they just keep making laws that dog people and put many into their gulags.
Texas warehouses people and treats them like the Nazis treated the Jewish people....
Oh, except they don't gas them.
Texas is like a whole 'nother country.... Hitler's Germany.
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mark dice, formerly known as john conner nickname like the terminator movies, also shows some pretty uncool bizarre remote control hunter/killer machines theyve been developing and testing, interesting site.
http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/
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its the 1st place winner on this page
silverstein thugs.
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was just a couple days back, linked to the PP site, was one of the contestant videos, outside the new WTC bldg 7.. sorry I'm not that quick finding link.. will post when I find it. john conner thing.
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yes indeed great clip!! no camera's, no microphones, sit down and shut up.. take that tape!! the clip of the silverstein thugs was a good one too, you can clearly see the buildings security camera's on the streets but be a citizen with a camcorder .. threaten them and CALL THE POLICE !!! the total hipocrisy of it all. ANYONE can be "with the press" .. recording and reporting news, whether a major outlet is willing to buy it or has you on their paybooks doesnt matter. both of these video's worthy of winning civil rights violations lawsuits in my opinion, they occured at public places, public meetings.
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Link please....
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uhh yup, woke up in a mood this morning lol
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and then theres these 'nonexistent' chemtrails..
if a heatseeker took one of those nonexistent planes out of the friggin sky would it suddenly exist? if it didnt exist, how could it have been brought down ?
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yes indeed great clip!! no camera's, no microphones, sit down and shut up.. take that tape!! the clip of the silverstein thugs was a good one too, you can clearly see the buildings security camera's on the streets but be a citizen with a camcorder .. threaten them and CALL THE POLICE !!! the total hipocrisy of it all. ANYONE can be "with the press" .. recording and reporting news, whether a major outlet is willing to buy it or has you on their paybooks doesnt matter. both of these video's worthy of winning civil rights violations lawsuits in my opinion, they occured at public places, public meetings.
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AK48:
From the link you posted:
http://mindprod.com/politics/asb...s/
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This mysterious death caught my attention:
R. Gregory Stevens co-chairman of the Bush/Cheney Entertainment Task Force, in other words the person who may have been in charge of assigning Jeff Gannon undercover prostitute to “entertain” Tony Blair. Stevens was only 42 years old and died in a guest room at actress Carrie (Princess Leia) Fisher's home. The motive for Bush to murder Stevens would have been to silence Stevens on what he knew about Gannongate. overdose of cocaine and oxycontin
And Pat Tillman/Noam Chamsky???
Any other evidence???
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TimM -
That fucking Brzezinski video is so fricking amazing. Did you catch where Brzezinski says, "sit down and shut up!"
This is one of the most amazing strategic attacks on the wizards I have seen.
Thanks for the Dig dude (reposting for fun ):
http://www.calgary911truth.org/
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CIA expert says Damon is too 'fat' for spy film
By TOM MANGOLD - Last updated at 21:41pm on 24th February 200
An expert on the CIA reveals how Hollywood bungled its chance to tell an astonishing true spy story...'I told Matt Damon he'd be a perfect spy - if he wasn't so short, fat, pretty and white', he reveals
It began with a meeting in Chelsea with the film producer Oliver Stone.
'I've bought your book on James Jesus Angleton and I'm going to film it,' he said rather pugnaciously.
'No you haven't, I replied. 'Yes I have,' he insisted.
We worked our way through two bottles of Pinot Noir before it turned out he'd bought a different book about James Jesus Angleton, the former head of counter-intelligence for the CIA, whose biography I had written in 1991.
Then last year I took a call from a film director friend who said: 'Can I bring Matt Damon round to your place tomorrow?
'He's playing Angleton in the film of your book.'
'It's not my book,' I replied wearily, 'but bring him over anyway.'
Damon arrived wearing a woollen hat, T-shirt and jeans. We sat in the drawing room, my wife couldn't take her eyes off him and we gossiped for two hours.
This week Damon's film The Good Shepherd opened in Britain.
It purports to be the story of Angleton, but it is a wholly fictionalised account - and the real, remarkable man has been airbrushed into a Hollywood shape.
'Am I right for the part?' Damon had asked me.
'Look,' I said, 'you're a very handsome, not unduly tall, blue-eyed, blonde-haired, open-faced Caucasian.
Jim Angleton was a 6ft 1in, half-Mexican, sallow-faced, brown-eyed, wide-mouthed, stooping, secretive, ghostly figure who always wore dark clothes and a black homburg.'
I didn't add that Damon is to Angleton what Peter Pan would have been to Marlon Brando.
The Good Shepherd is watchable if overlong.
But why mess with the truth when it is so much more dramatic than Hollywood invention?
Angleton joined the CIA in 1948 and formed a deep friendship with Kim Philby. When Philby was unmasked as an MI6 traitor, Angleton never recovered.
To be the CIA's chief spy-catcher is a rotten enough job without your best friend betraying you.
But Angleton achieved much. He helped buy democracy for Italy and Greece after the war; he understood the true evil of Stalin's regime; he was involved in procuring the top-secret, earth-shaking text of Khrushchev's speech in which Stalin was denounced; he was a one-man praetorian guard for what he perceived were the traditional values of the West.
He had a great sense of humour, too, but the secret world eventually attacked his reason.
He formed a catastrophic liaison with a deeply-flawed KGB defector, Anatoli Golitsin, who convinced him that all future Soviet defectors to the West would be fake.
At home in Washington though, Angleton was a skilled operator, passing on gossip about powerful figures to his bosses in his usual sly and mysterious nose-tapping way.
When one of John F. Kennedy's mistresses was murdered in her Washington apartment, Angleton and his men arrived within minutes of the police alert and (illegally) sanitised the property, removing marijuana, letters and photographs.
'A secret is not a secret unless it stays secret,' he used to tell his wife Cicely if she asked him about his job.
In time, however, alcohol, the influence of Golitsin and post-Philby paranoia began to wreak havoc with Angleton - The Good Shepherd would have worked better if his dark side had been explored on screen.
The truth is, Angleton was responsible for the destruction of several innocent people who were fingered as 'spies' by Golitsin or who fell foul of Angleton's prejudices.
The most disgraceful case was that of Yuriy Nosenko, which is hinted at in a wholly inaccurate sequence in The Good Shepherd.
Just as well - the truth would have left the audience hissing the hero.
Lt Col Yuriy Nosenko defected from the KGB to the West in 1964. He brought with him a treasure trove of Soviet secrets, but Angleton and Golitsin agreed he was a fake.
The Russian was seized by CIA officers in Washington.
Wires were strapped to his head and he was told this was an electroencephalograph, which could read his brain waves - utter nonsense.
He was then held in solitary confinement in a 10ft-square attic.
Endlessly interrogated, he was fed very little food, allowed to wash only once a week and given no radio, television or reading materials.
After 1,277 days he was tied up like a parcel, shot down a laundry chute into a station wagon and taken to a custom-made prison cell for the next two years.
What Nosenko did not know was that a powerful anti-Angleton faction within the CIA was trying to release him.
On March 1, 1969 he was acknowledged to be a genuine defector, formally released and employed by the CIA.
When his personal belongings were returned, his most valuable possession, a Sputnik-commemoration watch, was missing.
He later saw it on the wrist of a CIA doctor who had examined him.
'The handling of Nosenko was a frolic of others,' said a cowardly Angleton as the truth was revealed.He left the CIA, addicted to alcohol and in disgrace - though, to be fair, no real Soviet spy penetrated the CIA on his watch.Perhaps this is material for another film, not one 'based on' true events. This version could be fully documented as an account of the awesome pressures some Cold War warriors had to endure, and the terrible price we must pay for eternal vigilance.Tom Mangold's book Cold Warrior - James Jesus Angleton: The CIA's Master Spy Hunter, is credited in the titles of The Good Shepherd.
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Like this country, this comment board is being taken over by crooked dwarves and malformed, subterranean creatures with small brains, undeveloped backbones and no anuses. Having said this, I wonder who will come for me first, O'Reilly's Security Forces or the Wal Mart Secret Police, or maybe just some local Republican Party Death Squad? This country is demonizing right before my eyes and I am powerless to stop it. It IS like being trapped in an episode of Twilight Zone. Our leaders are incapable of telling the truth,and are murdering innocent iraqi and afghani civilians and wasting american service personnel every day in a corrupt and ill-conceived war. Our military leadership is proving, once again, its utter incompetence in executing a successful military campaign---the general brass are a nightmare version of the keystone cops, a bunch of bungling timeservers, and as the Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman coverups reveal, these individuals have no honor or respect for the truth. We have a vice-president who is more concerned with increasing his personal fortune than in saving the lives of American military personnel or in securing the rights of his fellow citizens; we have a president who cannot tell the truth to save his own soul and is actively subverting every enumerated right in the Bill of Rights; we have a national political party that has declared its intent to do away with the Constitution and erect a fascist, totalitarian control over the American political process by fraudulently dominating the electoral process, and excluding non-partisans from the executive branch and the federal court system. We have an entire generation of wealthy Americans who ONLY care about their own personal lifestyle of the rich and famous....american idol ad nauseam. Sellouts, grifters, gangsters and whores of every denomination; hypocrits and liars, traitors, turncoats and judases by the dozens in every government agency; subverters of the US Constitution, killers of children and destroyers of this once-shining Republic. I finally understand what the Bible means when it says, "woe unto the rich, for they have received their reward." Henceforth, there is NOTHING for the rich on the other side of death but judgment and damnation. The sooner they toast this planet, the sooner justice will be served.....sow corruption and deceit, reap death and eternal darkness.
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In fact, the NSA guys collecting data on us probably only do it when the boss is around. Otherwise they just chew gum, play paddle+string+ball, look at dirty magazines, and jerk off.
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Good point, except for the outsourcing to sweatshops in India ands China where they are whipped if they do not work for 5 seconds.
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the government was gone after george bush stole the election.
I heard rinquist was insane, and heard voices, and at a htoel ran around(they hotel staff called the ploice)that the cia was following him.
Your whole system is corrupt.
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04.25.07 - 6:28 am | #
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Gabe---i hope you are joking because otherwise you are the enemy.
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04.25.07 - 6:08 am | #
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I live in the Twilight Zone. This NWO is worse than the Planet of the Apes.
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I want sharks with freaking laser beams attached to their heads.
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Red haired punk. Free credit report.com? Bet he licks his boyfriends nuts.
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God is love, or at least this what the Bible declares. Pharisees and Inquisitors know alot about God, assume everyone else is ignorant, but are strident and harsh in their expression of Christianity, lacking the requisite humility to be able to tap into His love and gentleness. The fruits of God are meekness, kindness, gentleness, longsuffering patience, not being quick to anger or show wrath, humility and lack of pride and self-obsession.......................
"every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire: and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is."
"And though i have the gift of prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge: and though i have all faith, so as to move mountains, AND HAVE NOT LOVE, I AM NOTHING."
"Love suffers long, AND IS KIND; love envies not, is not easily provoked, thinks no evil, rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in truth;"
"And now abides faith, hope and love, but the greatest of these is love."
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Hey AK48, I think is the guy that the new Hollywood CIA film The Good Sheppard is made after. Matt Damon sure does look like him in those glasses.
http://
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SEE:
Part 1 -- Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 11:34 am | #
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Part 2 -- Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.23.07 - 11:40 am | #
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And for others here who'd like a link to the article Joe references in post:
http://www.kurtnimmo.com/?p=843
Kurt Nimmo's latest article.
ONLY True Peace,
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04.25.07 - 2:22 am | #
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Jessica Lynch becoming even more vocal.
http://digg.com/politics/
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04.25.07 - 2:13 am | #
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911 truth is mainstream.
Check out this- patriotsquestion911.com
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04.25.07 - 1:55 am | #
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Hillary gets pwned on Aussie TV. This is hillarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=-
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In fact, the NSA guys collecting data on us probably only do it when the boss is around. Otherwise they just chew gum, play paddle+string+ball, look at dirty magazines, and jerk off.
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Don't worry about it. The NSA pays assholes with our tax money to monitor sites like this and compile data bases of dissidents. Notice how you can look at the comment pages without any one else being aware of it? Truthfully, a few of the people who post comments here are probably just bored NSA spies that are full from lunch and tired of playing solitaire.
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We need to quit being afraid of what will happen if we do something.
And we need to start being afraid of what will happen if we do nothing. (Guillotines in boxcars, freedom camps?)
"WOLVERINES !!!!!!!"
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."- Braveheart
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http://www.digg.com/politics/
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More proof that truthers relating 911 with VT are being banished. Read the Bullshit. They are trying to break the connection between 911 and VT.
Many 911 websites are doing it.
They want 911 truth to only hit a few people.
VT reveals the power of mind control, patsies, police v. citizens, anti-social loners v. social elite, connection between multiple events.
They want to keep 911 focused as a single bush event to attack iraq instead of an NWO fuck everyone in the butt event.
VT and 911 and Columbine and OK City and Waco and Ruby Ridge
ALL CONNECTED TO NWO!!!!!!
Each one is a chess move and we got to get on the board instead of watching the moves desperately catching up.
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Explosions seen on North Tower as South Tower is impacted. There is so much video manipulation going on out there it's hard to tell what's real anymore. But it's looks genuine. The people falling from the shaking of the buildings as the second plane hits is horrific.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...dgU3dwztU&
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Odd find, indeed, but probably meaningless. I usually just ignore Words suggestions on grammar as they are wrong more often than not.
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Yup and NWO changes in front of your eyes. We will be controlled what can be written.
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04.25.07 - 1:15 am | #
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Micronazisoft word:
Type in:
"I love god but I hate lucifer, and I do not like the seeing eye because it represents the NWO. It sucks ass."
Type it letter for letter with the caps like I did.
Notice anything??????
sane | Homepage | 04.25.07 - 12:52 am | #
That it wants to correct your lack of capitalization of proper names?
Or is that point that it does NOT correct god to God? Possibly because "god" is not necessarily a name, but Lucifer is. If anything, I find it odd that it wants to capitalize seeing eye, unless it figured out the context of what you are typing and determined it was a proper name.
Odd find, indeed, but probably meaningless. I usually just ignore Words suggestions on grammar as they are wrong more often than not.
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Once again you drop a bombshell, Mr. Jones. Not in a million years would the majority of we, college students ever learn about the federal connection surrounding attacks like this and Columbine. Thank you for caring enough about your listeners to give us the knowledge with which to rebuild and find peace out of such a terrible event.
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One man clothed in righteousness can stand against the hordes of darkness.
If anyone wants my gun, they will get the bullets first. No one will infringe my 2nd amendment rights. NO ONE.
I am not very talented with the computer. Does anyone know how to design web pages? We need to create an online petition to outlaw secrecy, and secret societies in our government. This petition will include a nationwide agreement for citizens arrest.
Once the petitions signatures have reached over 50% of our population, we can set a date, and march on Washington to perform the arrest. Bring a sandwich, a set of handcuffs, and a gun. Alex Jones can bring the bullhorn.
This petition will of course contain an arrest warrant for the 911 perpetrator suspects. We can just issue a large bounty for the Rothschilds, and the Jesuits, and whoever else is found to be connected to treasonous affairs.
Once arrested, they can all await trial at a "freedom camp". We shall also declare Ron Paul as president, immediately following the arrest, and grant him executive emergency powers, so that he can clean up this entire debacle. The military will be placed under Ron Pauls temporary executive power as commander and chief.
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Webster Tarpley calls Va Tech massacre a black op.
http://www.digg.com/politics/
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Micronazisolft:
Every time you change auto correct or add words to the dictionary. You know like truther, NWO, etc.
The beautiful updates track it.
The surveillance shit is to track us.
When they get a lot of chatter, it is us.
These guys are fucking crazy!!!!!
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04.25.07 - 12:56 am | #
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Micronazisoft word:
Type in:
"I love god but I hate lucifer, and I do not like the seeing eye because it represents the NWO. It sucks ass."
Type it letter for letter with the caps like I did.
Notice anything??????
sane |
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Don't forget to watch Bill Moyers tomorrow on the roles of the press in the invasion of Iraq. It's to be a real hard hitter.
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Your eyes are wide fucking open!!!!!!!!
Peace brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Guys, this is fucking priceless!!!! A 9/11 truther, Luke Rudkowski (his friend was the truther Dan, I believe, who got murdered by the NWO) asking Zerbigniew Brzezinski about False Flag Terror.. then getting chased down by security to grab the tape. This is AMAZING!!! Man, I bet Brzezinski regrets so much now mentioning False Flag Terror in congress.
http://www.calgary911truth.org/ m...iew_brzezi.html
http://digg.com/politics/ Zbignie..._11_Priceless_2
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NICE FUCKING DIG!!!!!
That guy is playing nicey nice because his daughter is all over 24/7 News - Mika
He wrote the grand chessboard!!!
KICK HIS FUCKING ASSS
That was fucking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But remember - stay 2 steps ahead - he wrote the book, do not underestimate these fuckers.
They already planned us to rise up 25 years ago.
We need to hit the right people - LIKE THAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep going after the right people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not the local fucking police, the fucking WIZARDS and the WIZARD MASTERS
THEY KILLED HIS FUCKING FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY KILLED OUR BROTHERS, SISTERS, MOTHERS, FATHERS, OUR SON DAN!!!!!!
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The only thing stopping the new world order and it's executed scrums of controlled chaos is the patriotic belief's of a democratic and honest American system. If the good people of America let her fall, it's all over.
Absolute power, corrupts absolutely, as
the great depression was a carefully contrived occurrence by international bankers seeking to bring about a condition of despair so that they might emerge as the rulers of us all.
-Louis McFadden
Virtual puppets like Rove, Dick, the Neo-Cunt's, they want to be masters of the universe, but there are more people in the United States of America who don't want them to be. Bilderberger members, like the Clinton's are ready to pick up for the same masters where the Bush's left off. More people now know that the bank of England controls America's money system through the Federal Reserve and since the initial takeover of the central banking system have been playing American's in a cat and mouse routine. The "Empire" State building might have re-emerged as the tallest building, but the two lines through the S , the dollar symbol of satans saints, will come to not. By taking a shot at control of the oil valves around the world, Dick, Condi, Rummy Bush, those of whom that were all sloted for that special time frame by the elite's fortune tellers, they now know it's mission has failed. At least held back, simply because America is not as stupid as the lap dog media expected you to be.
Don't let them side track you with another inside job , like they did with 911. Common sense would force anyone to ask why would any country attack America now and give them an excuse to blow you off the map? After seeing what has been done to Iraq, you don't pat a rabid dog.
Don't forget to watch Bill Moyers tomorrow on the roles of the press in the invasion of Iraq. It's to be a real hard hitter.
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P.S.---Give me Biblical-only proof that Michael the Archangel isn't Jesus the Christ
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/ ..._details_66.htm
this isnt exactly biblical proof but it is a damnable strong argument, drop the bucks for it if you dare.
the chronology and geography support the theory very well, so does the theology.
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P.S.---Give me Biblical-only proof that Michael the Archangel isn't Jesus the Christ
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/
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this isnt exactly biblical proof but it is a damnable strong argument, drop the bucks for it if you dare.
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Yes!!!! Another physicist joins 9/11 Truth!!!
http://digg.com/politics/
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/Me...in-04-23-
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I mean look at the kind of people they are with manipulating our thoughts. Guiding our direction.
Look at Pat Tillamn's briother's report to congress on the 4th investigation into his brother's death. He told the co-sponsoring senator, "sir, it is a fraud."
We are being conditioned to distrust the entire govt.
Dems v Reps WTF? While our children die and our country gores bankrupt?
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"Fascist America, in 10 easy steps"
Nope, one easy step.
It's called the "Military Commissions Act" of October 2006.
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Guys, this is fucking priceless!!!! A 9/11 truther, Luke Rudkowski (his friend was the truther Dan, I believe, who got murdered by the NWO) asking Zerbigniew Brzezinski about False Flag Terror.. then getting chased down by security to grab the tape. This is AMAZING!!! Man, I bet Brzezinski regrets so much now mentioning False Flag Terror in congress.
http://www.calgary911truth.org/
m...iew_brzezi.html
http://digg.com/politics/
Zbignie..._11_Priceless_2
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"We Just Marched In (So We Can Just March Out)"
So "Why the dilemma?"
Well, see, before, it didn't matter what the troops thought (It still sometimes doesn't like in the case of the general that got court martialled...), but now, it turns out it does, and stopping the war NOW is likely to undermine troop morale.
So like, the sole purpose to continue the war is... so that the troops will stay happy. If you don't support the war, you don't support the troops.
Simple.
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Thanks for that.
I believe that everyone needs to see the video and the videos from all the meetings like that. We need (when we take down chimp boy) to get the documents on all of the shit, not just 9/11. 9/11 is just one more fucking domino (like that is not bad enough). We need to make friends with police. We need to be in the police. We need to know the spins. We need to tear apart the media oligopoly. And we need to take back our ports and our borders.
9/11 and VT put them together - bankrupt the country on false terror and pin the cops and the people. But the cops will be losing all their funding and the army is being broken.
It has already been reported that after VT, gun sales have jumped!
They are making us arm ourselves against the police. We need to bond with the police.
Every time they do some shit, we need to get to the fuckers and embrace the good one.
instead of Zion v. Nazi
It will be citizen v. authority
We need to be embedded within authority.
Why the fuck else would Texas allow Halliburton child rape chambers unless they wanted us to go fucking crazy against authority.
It is always a handful of people making us fight each other.
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LOL! How old are you, "Sparky"? You have the nerve to talk to me like a child and to tell me to go back to school, but you can't even spell the most common words. You may be older than you appear, but you sound like your emotional (im)maturity is at about the seventh or eighth grade level, or the equivalent of thirteen or fourteen years old, or maybe even younger. I'm not trying to build myself up at your expense, you lower yourself well enough for yourself, but I'm a 51 year old man with at an emotional maturity of the equivalent of thirty-six to forty-one, with four and half years of college, and having taught myself, with the help of the Holy Spirit of God, in-depth from the time I left college until now, or for the past almost thirty years, since 1978. So, don't hurt yourself with your lies about me, and trying to build yourself up at my expense, because you yourself are clearly so uneducated and highly deceived that I really do have compassion for YOU, unlike your extremely false claims that you love me while you tear me down in your backwards and forwards, contradictive fashion. Teach yourself how to spell and write first, and then tell me you're so educated.
P.S.---Give me Biblical-only proof that Michael the Archangel isn't Jesus the Christ, brainy. If you can prove it, I'm open to it. Even your neighbor-friend Gabe admitted a couple of nights ago that he hasn't read anything in Scripture that says He isn't Michael, or that Michael isn't another name for Christ Jesus, and that it could be so from his perspective that indeed Michael the Archangel could well be Jesus the Christ. Show us your educated prowess, Andrew.
ONLY True Peace,
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LOL! How old are you, "Sparky"? You have the nerve to talk to me like a child and to tell me to go back to school, but you can't even spell the most common words. You may be older than you appear, but you sound like your emotional (im)maturity is at about the seventh or eighth grade level, or the equivalent of thirteen or fourteen years old, or maybe even younger. I'm not trying to build myself up at your expense, you lower yourself well enough for yourself, but I'm a 51 year old man with at an emotional maturity of the equivalent of thirty-six to forty-one, with four and half years of college, and having taught myself, with the help of the Holy Spirit of God, in-depth from the time I left college until now, or for the past almost thirty years, since 1978. So, don't hurt yourself with your lies about me, and trying to build yourself up at my expense, because you yourself are clearly so uneducated and highly deceived that I really do have compassion for YOU, unlike your extremely false claims that you love me while you tear me down in your backwards and forwards, contradictive fashion. Teach yourself how to spell and write first, and then tell me you're so educated.
P.S.---Give me Biblical-only proof that Michael the Archangel isn't Jesus the Christ, brainy. If you can prove it, I'm open to it. Even your neighbor-friend Gabe admitted a couple of nights ago that he hasn't read anything in Scripture that says He isn't Michael, or that Michael isn't another name for Christ Jesus, and that it could be so from his perspective that indeed Michael the Archangel could well be Jesus the Christ. Show us your educted prowess, Andrew.
ONLY True Peace,
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LOOK AT THIS LINK!
http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm
LOOK AT THE CARDS AND HOW THEY ACCURATELY PREDICT 9/11, THE PENTAGON, AND THE ILLUMINATI PLAN FOR POPULATION REDUCTION.
THEN SCROLL DOWN TO THE CARD ENTITLED "Combined Disasters". LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON THE CARD! IT LOOKS LIKE A NUCLEAR ATTACK IN LONDON KNOCKING DOWN THE CLOCK TOWER BIG BEN!!! IS THIS WHAT THE ILLUMINATI IS PLANNING?!?! AND IT WILL COINCIDE WITH OTHER DISASTERS!! LOOK AT THIS!!!!
http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm
[Sorry for caps but I think this is urgent and should be looked at immediatly!!]
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yes indeed, AJ spells it out too but takes a lot of attention to other things.. like 70% of the US wildlands handed to the UN , national parks and forests... already done! all our oil wells and refineries owned by BP .. the queen herself, HELLO !! and theyre after all the water, the home I'm in and this land .. I dont have the mineral rights, its owned by some foreign corporation and I cant dig deeper than 20 feet (?!!) all the roads being bought up by cintra and toll booths going up everywhere because these crooked politicians sell the roads that were all funded by the public off as if they were theirs to sell... but this isnt enough control for them at all, not these corporations all owned by the global bankers.. and they DO, by contract, think they OWN the USA , NWO spelled backwards = OWN ! they regard it as an old dog to be put to sleep, literally.
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" Potentially Habitable Planet Found "
Oh good! Now we can finish trashing this planet so we can move on to a next. Thank heavens.
Now we don't have to worry about mundane things like global warming, pollution, and/or animal extinction.
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FOD
you are spot on
their planning is maybe better than twenty or thirty years allrady planned to the T
it does not diminish what we are supposed to do
but in chess
sometimes you have to use a masterful creative strategy also
they are expecting what we are giving
we play into their hand
but we still got to play it out
the score is 20 to 1 going into the ninth
we need to hit a bunch out of the park, get creative
create a brand new game winning paradigm
something they cannot fathom, nor comprehend
like that master chess player bobby fisher
we know what the grande chessboard is supposed to do next
every patriot post a paper plate with 911 truth on it in black marker
pin it at your front door
spread the word
make it happen
we will see in one week that we have 100 million on board right now
then we shoot for 200 million
we cripple them
a unstoppable first wave of visible numbers and unquenchable momentum
video it
take pictures
blog it
make phone calls
get all of our fellow patriots and americans that care on board and i swear in one week we can rock the boat hard
then plates for issues
plates for votes
then lets see em steal an election
lets take em to the hole
lets crush the media
lets crush the corps
lets crush the enemy
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Forgot the video that put it all together (thanks again AK):
http://video.google.com/
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Sane. Excellent point you made about the prison televised specials. And I agree 100%. It is conditioning. You have a keen talent for observation. What we need is people like you on an independent 911 commission run by the victims families. Lately Kerry admitted "Controlled fashion", and now Giulliani said some wierd shit today to the press about the WTC7 collapse. This is all smoke & mirrors!
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Gabe, I hate to say it but in my humble opinion 9/11 is a pretext for: war on terror (duh)
arab country invasions (double duh)
but here is the stuff they are missing:
purposefully breaking our army (no way this would have happened during the cold war. Now we are just accepting it because there is really no outside threat. No country would dare attack us (too scared of chimp boy and the red button, also as Malcolm X told us "you can't win an occupation anymore,"
So what is going on?
Why is our army being brokenm?
why has the petro gone to the euro and away from the dollar?
Why are we allowing pumping of the stock market?
Why does the 911 truth movement seem unstoppable (not a bad thing of course).
Gabe, as you put it, our country will be in depression, no army , no money for public safety (it is being pumped into false terror threats, VT was a way to help bring us to bankruptcy by overspending on lone killers).
Then the children will be fighting the underfunded police in the streets (the murals in Denver Airport, remember. It is all there!!!!!!!!).
So 9/11 and the truth movement is another plan.
They will lay it on Bush/Cheney, but Roth, Rock, Swarzz, other elites will be untouched.
And then the environmental projects have been hijacked by big business and we can create tsunamis so the borders are smashed and no more going international for our information because it will all be one big world organization with a worlfd consciousness headed by one fricken king.
it will be the little controlling the many to the one controlling all.
Look at movies with superheroes (I never understood it when freeman was saying it -really fucking brilliant guy), look at Matrix. We are being conditioned to accept one ultimate superhero for truth and justice.
And that my friends is why Captain America died.
Because he is being replaced by a superking that will be our only saviour for justice.
Ron Paul etc. realize we need to get more local power, but sub elites are talking about gov being broken and save the environment.
They are pushing it to us and we are pushing back with great leaked 911 info.
WTF - 911 is a fucking inside job, we don't need any more fucking videos.
We need to look 2 steps ahead in this grand chessgame, we are being so fucking led. All these angry kill bush thoughts we have are fucking planned.
They have planned us to rise up 25 fucking years ago. 911 truth has to open its doors to other dots connecting this shit especially VT.
911 and VT show how this game is fucking played.
It is a hijacking of every penny we own and we will be praying for any saviour:
FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC
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Gabriel Alan King, This is your friend Sue! Gab, those people in Congress MAJORITY of them are in pure evil New World Order TOO! They HAVE TO BE! Senator Biden wrote a book on how he learned to love the NWO! Spector is pure evil and was involved in murder of JFK, him and his BOGUS single, magic bullet PURE BULLSHIT COVERUP! BOTH CLINTON'S AND BOTH BUSH'S AND OF COURSE PURE EVIL CHENEY TOO AND OTHERS IN CONGRESS AS WELL! THAT IS WHY, CONGRESS WILL NOT IMPEACH BUSH because MOST of them and hell even maybe ALL of them are in bed with him/them in either NWO, Skull and Bones, like Kerry or Council on Foreign Relations! That is WHY we are TOTALLY FUCKED on North American Union too! WE NEED A REVOLUTION, IT IS ONLY WAY TO STOP THESE PURE EVIL BASTARD, Satan worshipping, TRAITORS FROM BOTH PARTIES! I don't see us stopping them without one! And SOON!
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has there been some new developements in the
scientific studies
freeman did some great documenteries on the chemtrails vs contrails
also many local reports accross the nation denoting townspeople watching the trails and then witnessing wierd chem build up of yellow dusts and stuff on cars etc
along with spiking levels of sickness like chest and lung problems, respiratory deteriorations etc...
what up with that
they are crop dusting us
time to join together 100 million strong right now
lets all get some white paper plates
take a black marker
write
911 truth on it
pin it up on your doors
everyone pin them up on your own doors
get people on board with interest
pin em up all over
very cheap
grass roots
100 plates 3$
markers 3$
staples 3$
nationwide 911 truth exposure=priceless
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This should be read by all here. Wow. It will keep you in the movement.
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Here, Bill O'Reilly is attacking George Soros and the communist left, and tracks the money of Soros' support of MediaMatters and MoveOn.org. This is what makes me think that there is huge infighting in the different aspects of the New World Order. I guess, however, that all this info could be leaked to Fox by the very highest levels of the NWO in order to keep Soros in line. The NWO has to keep both the Nazi left and the Communist Left in line somehow. Who knows. But this is good for us in one respect. Any exposure of following money trails, no matter for what reason, is good in educating the public that you can't just trust what is going on the surface of something. You always have to follow the money, especially Rothschild and Rockefeller money.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...eilly-loses-it/
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LOOK SKYWARD EVERYONE. THE CHEMTRAILS ARE COMING TO A HORIZON NEAR YOU!!
Riley
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there are so many great posters here
all having great things to add and wonderful
inspiration and insight
as i scroll down im teary eyed at the quality statements and candid threads
then
i see this puky peguly spunk by wolf
is everybody clear that when his posts hit it is like buttermilk, like vineger, like rotten underware
wolf prays to the arch angel michael
he knows not of the Christ he speaks
you may as well worship gabriel the arch angel
or metatron
who knows if he confuses Jesus with michael, there is nothing true in him
he missed first base
he forgot the gas
he did not trim his lamp
he has called that which is not the truth as though it was the truth
please go back to school wolfy
so that the next time you blog something it is not leven
we love you, but we do not love the un-truths
stick to the good web pages and the great articles and your fine dude
we need you to stay on track
911 truth, ani-criminal, resist tyrrany
please leave the bible study for idots out of your blogs
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Anyway. Going to take a break for real. Got some investigating to do. God Bless Each and Everyone of YOU! Even though we may not all agree how to fight this fight. The fact that we are in it, is ample testimony against the Lords of Darkness...
Riley ; )
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Allowing secrecy in our government is the biggest mistake ever for all mankind - Gabe.
Agreed!
Riley
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Riley.
"Christians" like Wolf give Christians a bad name. Don't buy into his bullshit.
Sara.
Actually they are starting to let women join in some of the lodges. But you will most likely stay in the lower degrees, unless you are willing to wear a strap on!
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Who knows.....lol
I can simulated a male. Dress up.
sara | 04.24.07 - 10:35 pm | #
lol disowned before even adopted.
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When the planes cross each other at nearly a 45 degree angle over and over day after day, you begin to realize that something is up. I suggest video-taping them and recording it on a sped up exposure so people can really get the idea how much it is happening.
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LOOK SKYWARD EVERYONE. THE CHEMTRAILS ARE COMING TO A HORIZON NEAR YOU!!
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Be sure and get the last word too. I know you can't help yourself. That is most definitely a sign of immaturity.
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Sane. Excellent point you made about the prison televised specials. And I agree 100%. It is conditioning. You have a keen talent for observation. What we need is people like you on an independent 911 commission run by the victims families. Lately Kerry admitted "Controlled fashion", and now Giulliani said some wierd shit today to the press about the WTC7 collapse. This is all smoke & mirrors!
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That ought to get you going Wolfy. I have completely given up with u too. We tried to explain ourselves. But you are content with accusing your brethren over and over. That is from the Father of Lies.
Riley
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I have not been following the earth movement,lately. I am going to join the Freemasons, scottish rite, and I will tell you what develops. I just want to see.
I cant say were. They are in the small towns of the Dakotas. I ask. I belive police officers go to it. (temple). Just curious. I will take digitals.
sara | 04.24.07 - 10:15 pm | #
-last I'd heard they discriminate against women membership but I might adopt ya.. and did you see the article about hitlery clinton taking on a la raza running mate ... OMFG !!!
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Let me guess. If we are to take Wolf's approach. We would never do a damn thing but bitch about the scriptures! What a joke Wolf. And you are the real coward who claims he has a handle on the "only" way to fight this fight.
Reminds me of the person who is sitting ontop of the roof during a massive flood and when a person tosses him the life support, he merely exclaims "No, not me... I am waiting for the finger of God to reach down from the Heavenlies!" C'mon. You're as mind-controlled as the next.
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Re: This is no place for me. 4:41
Sounds like you want a bowl of Mancow's Manchowder.
Jerk yerself off while you "Git some", punk ass deceiver.
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Your eyes are fucking open!!!
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Hi, I was not offended in the least, I was uprised it took so long for you to get to that point.
This person has got a game going on, I cant hit on it, but its either she enjoys antagonizing or she is making a few bucks, I cant get a handle on her motives.
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OK, here comes some more random speculation based on zero evidence, but what the fuck. Today I still got free speech so I am gonna use it.
MSNBC has been showing innocent documentaries on prison life for the past year or so. At first I thought it was cool. Wow look at that, terrible.
Then they got more common place. They are running it like 5 hours a fucking day. Then I thought it is good they are allowing us to see how terrible it is and we have the information to help change the system.
NOT!!!!
It is teaching us how to live in prison.
How to make friends
How to get around the rules.
How to join gangs and which ones.
How to get exercise.
How to pray to your religion.
How to conspire against the guards -message even though you are behind 3 feet of concrete, you still have freedoms.
How to get over terrible incidents.
How to get healthcare.
WE ARE BEING CONDITIONED TO ACCEPT PRISON LIFE AS NORMAL!!!!
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I have not been following the earth movement,lately. I am going to join the Freemasons, scottish rite, and I will tell you what develops. I just want to see.
I cant say were. They are in the small towns of the Dakotas. I ask. I belive police officers go to it. (temple). Just curious. I will take digitals.
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-last I'd heard they discriminate against women membership but I might adopt ya.. and did you see the article about hitlery clinton taking on a la raza running mate ... OMFG !!!
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Yes. We are being led.
The people and the police are being police are being positioned against one another. There is no longer a way to make our leaders accountable to us, the common people. They are above us. Beyond investigation. Beyond prosecution. Beyond the Law. Our Senators are weak, and corrupted. So is our Congress. Heroes have been assassinated or silenced. The corporate media is nothing but lies and propaganda. We are being deceived and led into total surveliance, and absolute slavery.
Unless the citizens of this country wake up, and learn the truth, we are headed for a blood bath of Martial Law enslavement. We must promote a citizens arrest of the secret government. A grassroots movement that must grow nationwide. We the people must wake up and place these bastards under arrest. Allowing secrecy in our government is the biggest mistake ever for all mankind. "Separation of Church and State" has gone way too far. Our government must be constrained by some agreed upon simple moral guidelines that cannot be overwritten. Or we are doomed to continually repeat this process.
Our Constitutional rights were also not meant to be tampered with, or overwritten. Where is the accountability of our Senate and House in these regards? We are over run with traitors posing as Republicans and Democrats. It is our generation that MUST put a stop to all of this, for the sake of all future generations. Let us pray to God that truth and justice prevail, together.
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theres some tidbits in there info from "ring of power" had to pause, play back, take notes, to spill some real comments on that thread..
but .. http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808 george hunt's video there is VERY right on track too about these manipulative A-holes and all their biblical begat this-n-that organizations -and free to see right now a huge plus!
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Re:sane you have alot of energy. Do you drink red-bulls? If I had just a few watts my computers would run weeks, its amazing.
I have not been following the earth movement,lately. I am going to join the Freemasons, scottish rite, and I will tell you what develops. I just want to see.
I cant say were. They are in the small towns of the Dakotas. I ask. I belive police officers go to it. (temple). Just curious. I will take digitals.
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God would never condone your behavior on this board.
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 7:06 pm | #
Have you seen the vid? In my humble opinion it answers a lot more than loose change, and we are being led to think a lot of what we are currentl thinking.
"We cannot leave these matters up to democracy."
We are about to give up ALL OUR RIGHTS:
http://video.google.com/
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Think about everything we are currently doing as only one country and the small amount of people pulling the strings. Now take away 99% of those people and imagine it happening globally instead of federally. Also imagine that there is only one media source, no internet (all controlled).
Truly no where to run and no where to hide.
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Roger Waters knows the secret of what happens after we take them away (not suere if he meant it but if he saw the video he would):
The Fletcher Memorial Home
by Roger Waters - performed by Pink Floyd
From the album "The Final Cut : A Requiem for the Post War Dream"
Take all your overgrown infants away somewhere
And build them a home, a little place of their own.
The Fletcher Memorial
Home for Incurable Tyrants and Kings.
And they can appear to themselves every day
On closed circuit T.V.
To make sure they're still real.
It's the only connection they feel.
"Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome:
Reagan and Haig, Mr. Begin and friend, Mrs. Thatcher, and Paisly Mr. Brezhnev and party The ghost of McCarthy And the memories of Nixon And now, adding color, a group of anonymous latin- American Meat packing glitterati
Did they expect us to treat them with any respect?
They can polish their medals and sharpen their
Smiles, and amuse themselves playing games for awhile.
Boom boom, bang bang, lie down you're dead.
Safe in the permanent gaze of a cold glass eye
With their favorite toys
They'll be good girls and boys
In the Fletcher Memorial Home for colonial
Wasters of life and limb.
Is everyone in?
Are you having a nice time?
Now the Final Solution can be applied.
WHO REMAINS WHEN WE GET RID OF THESE GUYS???
Roth????
Rock?????
Schwarzzennegger????
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wolf:
what has happened to you ???
God would never condone your behavior on this board.
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Any organization is bad, like la raza.
sara | 04.24.07 - 9:51 pm | #
All these organizations are planned and their movements controlled. Check out this video:
http://video.google.com/
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Why are we being conditioned to be so enraged by the government. How can they be this calculating. We truly need to know what we are facing. THe thoughts we are all sharing have been implanted for the next step. Guys, this is huge. We are being led, step by step. To the slaughter.
http://video.google.com/
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Dude but he keeps hiding behind the russians or the arabs or the jews or the mexicans. Anyone pointing fingers needs to see this ASAP. We are all being fucked by a 10 foot penis for the next 100 generations and everybody is pointing the finger in the wrong direction.
sane | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 9:49 pm | #
exactly and theyve been doing it for near 3 centuries now.. these so called elite are pirate bastards
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chris jones | 04.24.07 - 9:46 pm | #
Yes all true like everything else you say, but watch out. We have actually been conditioned to say shit like that (I am the #1 culprit). We keep looking only one step ahead and the chessmaster is already looking at checkmate. By saving the queen (fake environmental shit) we may be giving up the king (our right to free thinking). Dude, ya gotta see it-37 minutes.
Why the fuck are we always one step behind. The step of "gov don't work" has been planned, we are being led (lied?) to the slaughterhouse.
I can't believe this was made in 1992!
No one would have believed it then.
Look what has happened in the lase 25 years. See if one thing he said is wrong.
http://video.google.com/
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Thanks AK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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..._details_66.htm "ring of power" hey, I got it pirated sure, but if people who can afford it grab it, explains a whole lot more how they ALL operate. wish it were free like it oughtta be. rothchild and partners all need to hang for crimes against humanity!
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La Raza gets mainstreamed and patronised by celebrities and top politicians.
You all know how a White activist group calling itself "The Race" would be treated in comparison.
To think there are people on here who try and say the NWO is "Nahzees" run by Whites. Oh dear.
Oh wait! Hold on a minute! The NWO is suppressing, media attacking and legally discriminating against Whites to cover up the REEEAAALLL rulers of the NWO who are White! The wizard uses his beef curtains!
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when I suggest that its racist.
Any organization is bad, like la raza.
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http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808 oh yeah frggn rothchild bastard at it again.. this pirate needs a rope necktie!
Sees Things | 04.24.07 - 9:45 pm | #
Dude but he keeps hiding behind the russians or the arabs or the jews or the mexicans. Anyone pointing fingers needs to see this ASAP. We are all being fucked by a 10 foot penis for the next 100 generations and everybody is pointing the finger in the wrong direction.
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Chris if you think I have one molecule of common sense, please watch this. If it makes sense have others watch it:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808
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I tried to see the video, but my sound is on the blink,sory, but if its any consulation we bear witness to the realitys of this nation and world, we dont hide from them, yes, it is a severe dissapointment.
This planet our home is our provider, it can support all of our needs, it is a place of beauty, majestic realy. Its a shame that neither this world nor its people matter to those whos power and need for control is their God. If only the earth itself could rise up and speak to us .
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It's cool brother, I just act like I know more than I do. That combined with being conditioned to fear everything from birth to grave makes it hard to trust. I have watched AK48's video link he posted like 7 times today and I cannot find one word that is not inline with exactly everything going on today. And also there is no blame on reptillian shape shifting cabalists, just easy to understand reasoning and exposure in 37 minutes. I think this is more important than Loose Change.
Have you seen it yet?
http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808
sane | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 9:25 pm | #
Not yet. Trying to catch up with all the crazyness going on in here. I work thrid shift, so I am off to work now, but I will watch it in the morning.
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videopla...758020554799808 oh yeah frggn rothchild bastard at it again.. this pirate needs a rope necktie!
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Dude it is much worse, see the video, there will not be an internet:
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The Internet seems to be an easy way to get real info and to communicate about non-elite opinions.
sane | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 11:40 am | #
Kip is an old term that means, kind of like a group, or gang, ya know, the good ol boys.
You go it, I guess we dont see joe worker reading financial times.
Dan Rather, an honest man, said it all to them, the news media, needs a spine transplant, and they got the money to do it. The spin is the big money. Greed is the name of the game.
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God help you, I had hope for you, dissapointed doesnt even come close to how i feel.
chris jones | 04.24.07 - 9:19 pm | #
Chris if you think I have one molecule of common sense, please watch this. If it makes sense have others watch it:
http://video.google.com/
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Amen, my friend... straight up thinking there. Can't ALWAYS all get along, can we?
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It's cool brother, I just act like I know more than I do. That combined with being conditioned to fear everything from birth to grave makes it hard to trust. I have watched AK48's video link he posted like 7 times today and I cannot find one word that is not inline with exactly everything going on today. And also there is no blame on reptillian shape shifting cabalists, just easy to understand reasoning and exposure in 37 minutes. I think this is more important than Loose Change.
Have you seen it yet?
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
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oops... if they take their oath seriously at all.
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Did you see this yet?
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Mrs. Pelosi,**** remaked that impeachment of Bush is not worth it, it would cause problems in the future for the Dems.
Mrs. Pelosi, please explain this to the families of the 600,000 innocnet victims in Iraq, to the troops families who lost their loved ones, to the cripples in the VA, to the victims of 911.
How do you people live with yoursleves, I am not nieve but his actions affected millions upon millions, affected this nation, left us bankrupt, war deficit in the 700 billion range, come on please, give the people of this nation some respect. Dont impeach him, arrest him as a criminal, i dont care, but dont let him and his cronys get away with mass murder, high treason, conspiracy, treason, and the moral implications that follow. In legal terms he is a criminal and has broken this nations laws, does that not matter.Are the Bush family above all law, political or civilian, Jeb had his Lincoln Savings, how many billions, Bushes grandad was a nazi colaberator, so we must assume they are above the law of this nation. Is that it Mrs. Pelsoi, just let him walk, as if this will mean all is well in abadaba land.
God help you, I had hope for you, dissapointed doesnt even come close to how i feel.
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Impeachy I think you had a valid question that I am sure many who do not post have, thus the elaborate answer. However you seem to be very mysterious with your questions and statements (like what is "True Blue?"). This can leave posters confused, annoyed, or (due to all the BS on the blogs) threatened. We then react with either fight or flight. I am just as guilty of it (as my baseless tantrums with ak yesterday proves).
We have gone from land of the free to land of the paranoid.
I believe that, although the surface of this site may lead people to believe that it creates more paranoia, it does the opposite. By revealing the causes and direction of this mass paranoia creating conspiracy, we can have some sanity in a deliberately manipulated insane world.
Thus, my nick
sane | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 12:09 pm | #
Amen, my friend... straight up thinking there. Can't ALWAYS all get along, can we?
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Sane = pawn in game of left-wing White-hating disinfo agents - or one of them.
By the way, people "sane" (ahem!) has been lying to you - and in a VERY BIG WAY. I will post soon addressing this - I tried yesterday but my browser was playing up. Nevertheless, I will post soon detailing the WHOPPING LIES he has the audacity to tell you - lies that are not only audacious but are so basic they directly contradict his posture as a "conspiracy" expert.
Until later, ; ).
PS: Those who leap into using the terms "racist" and "supremacist" about Whites while ignoring the racism/supremacism and facts posted here about other race's hatred are just racist themselves. And using the terminology of the NWO/communist party/ADL/system media.
Q: Why does "sane" act as though he owns this site and is the supreme authority on conspiracy?
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Hey dude, I ain't no expert and I don't own shit.
I'm just blogging dude. Who said I was an expert. Please nobody believe a word I say research it yourself. IMy opinions are usually based on satire or emotions. Please do not take anything I say seriously at all it is for entertainment only.
By reading anything I write you are agreeing to hold harmless and allow zero liability on the author.
Are we cool commentator? you got a disclosure you wish to share???
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You hear Alex Jones say, "Don't wait for instructions from headquarters". Well, in this case, concerning God, we're supposed to, AND MUST, get instructions from headquarters first, so to speak; in other words, getting completely right with God FIRST. Otherwise, we're just doing our own will(s), not God's.
ONLY God's will... Truly, Fully and Completely(!!),
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 8:37 pm | #
Sorry dude, we were born with our instructions. Wrong is wrong. This administration has been breaking the country apart in an attempt to bring on the 4th world (as opposed to the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd). I ain't gonna wait for Jerry Falwell's permission to save this country from being dominated by a foreign or domestic power. Who would have thought that the Petro would move to Euro (the plan was laid out before there was an EU).
And now we are going to have to bow to a North American Union to compete.
Way to go chimp boy - mission accomplished.
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"SeesThings"
It's not about attacking character - it's about facts and "sane" has been telling brazen lies/misleading people on this forum.
Anyway I care not what you make of it as you have already made up your mind.
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Peace friends, this is me,
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Hi, I was not offended in the least, I was uprised it took so long for you to get to that point.
This person has got a game going on, I cant hit on it, but its either she enjoys antagonizing or she is making a few bucks, I cant get a handle on her motives.
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youre gonna try, blast away, I'll watch... but I'd put money on sane for what I've seen already.
this site isnt sposed to be about personal attacks but I see a lot of it here and the prospect of cheep thrills is always entertaining, this wouldnt be an attack on youre charachter, youve just shown me that... lol
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He wouldn't agree with my level of religiousness, or my connecting this quote of his with "bible thumping" as "Sane" puts it; but check out this quote about what we're supposed to really be doing:
"Freedom cannot exist in a muzzled world. Free people must speak to each other and hear each other--they must test and protest and raise hell and shake their leaders (AND EACHOTHER) by the napes of their necks. Our Founding Fathers gave us the supreme weapon of liberty--free speech--and with the First Amendment, guaranteed us that most sacred of rights. But the people have been silenced. They have been administered a new sedative. There they sit placidly, like patients on the third floor of the state hospital, where the bad ones are locked up--their mouths open, their eyes lifeless and glazed, watching television. . . .
". . . .(M)edia techniques can be used--indeed, I argue that they are--to cause Americans to reject their precious rights.
"As newly freed people, our forefathers not only endowed us with the right but charged us with the duty to openly and lustily debate matters of public concern, to warn eachother of new dangers to our liberty, and to hear each other and avoid the ensnaring traps of new masters.....
"The idea that in a democracy a free people should quietly accept the theft of their voice is, indeed, very radical. Our 'eternal vigilance' must have flickered. Did we not understand what was happening to us? What was ours was transformed into the corporate Cyclops, and then turned against us. . . ."
From WITH JUSTICE FOR NONE by
Gerry Spence, Esq.
(Chapter, "New Voices,
Leashing the Corporate Cyclops",
Page 296, First Paragraph)
[Copyright © 1989 in the U.S.A. and
Internationally by Gerry Spence.
All rights are reserved;
emphasis added by me.]
So I'm NOT "beating people up with" Jesus' words. I'm trying to shake all of you by the nape of the neck to get you to see that we're in the very end of this earth as it is now, and that first and foremost we've, each and every one of us, got to get completely, truly right with God; and that, if we don't have that right first, all of our "works" are only in our own strength alone, and greatly worthless (please don't misinterpret what I just said, you're NOT worthless, the works are).
You hear Alex Jones say, "Don't wait for instructions from headquarters". Well, in this case, concerning God, we're supposed to, AND MUST, get instructions from headquarters first, so to speak; in other words, getting completely right with God FIRST. Otherwise, we're just doing our own will(s), not God's.
ONLY God's will... Truly, Fully and Completely(!!),
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La Raza gets mainstreamed and patronised by celebrities and top politicians.
You all know how a White activist group calling itself "The Race" would be treated in comparison.
To think there are people on here who try and say the NWO is "Nahzees" run by Whites. Oh dear.
Oh wait! Hold on a minute! The NWO is suppressing, media attacking and legally discriminating against Whites to cover up the REEEAAALLL rulers of the NWO who are White! The wizard uses his beef curtains!
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Civil War - fratricidal war to kill White people
WW1 - fratricidal war to kill White people
WW2 - fratricidal war to kill White people. Communists won.
Sane = pawn in game of left-wing White-hating disinfo agents - or one of them.
By the way, people "sane" (ahem!) has been lying to you - and in a VERY BIG WAY. I will post soon addressing this - I tried yesterday but my browser was playing up. Nevertheless, I will post soon detailing the WHOPPING LIES he has the audacity to tell you - lies that are not only audacious but are so basic they directly contradict his posture as a "conspiracy" expert.
Until later, ; ).
PS: Those who leap into using the terms "racist" and "supremacist" about Whites while ignoring the racism/supremacism and facts posted here about other race's hatred are just racist themselves. And using the terminology of the NWO/communist party/ADL/system media.
Q: Why does "sane" act as though he owns this site and is the supreme authority on conspiracy?
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Election fraud and Internet fraud all together. Who'da think-ked.
http://digg.com/politics/
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And the SAD part is that most are in denial as to how immediate the threat really is or you would discontinue the petty games. What a bunch of HORSESHIT!!! Your folly will become apparent in the very NEAR future when most of us will be worrying about how to "survive" rather than forming alliances and clicks on some message board.
What a joke!
Riley
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I don't give a rats ass about all the control freaks, magalomaniacs, stalkers, and holier-than-thous on this site. Just keep pushing the truth out. I have been preparing all my life to go down with the ship swinging...
Riley
(now into Silent War mode while I shift gears and begin to research some things further).
(Remember, the mind-controllers must be just as paranoid. Who is controlling them?? They know the technology that exists, so they must be scared shitless it is being used on them.)
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....you make this comment and prove that you DON'T get it! That's your problem, and the problem with you bunch of clique-mongers on this forum, YOU DON'T CARE! You don't care about anyone but yourselves and/or your immediate loved ones, friends and clique (if you even really care about them, at least the latter)! You're out for yourselves while building up your egos making it look like, "I'm a great patriot", "I'm going to go down with guns blazing", "See, I'm no coward"! You're a bunch of whimps who, yah, probably will go out by "suicide by cop" on a huge or much smaller scale! Give us ALL a break from your phony, self-centered posturing and posing!
True Peace is ONLY to be found in Jesus the Christ(!!), "signed",
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C'mon dude, the onanistic bible thumping is getting old. The truth is staing us in the face, watch Shooter in the link above and have some popcorn. Nothing against the Bible and Jesus was one of the first Martyred truthers, but Jesus would want us to practice his words, not beat people up with them.
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No way this is gonna last watch it while you can...
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No way this is gonna last watch it while you can...
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Oh, give me a break from your hypocrisies, Marci! You are nothing but one of the counterfeit, fraudulent, false, hypocrite, so-called "Christians" here; and you're one of the people who can't handle the truth, so you've got to shoot the messenger! I'd ask but you'd probably say "yes"; so, instead: God would not approve of the way your clique behaves on this board either.
I'm fed up, right up to my neck, with your clique's b.s., that's what has happened to me!
I can just hear your fellow-"cliquers" right now, perhaps even you yourself, saying, "Well, then leave, and don't let the door hit you in the rear end on the way out". Actually, Scott's already said it to me, the extremely evil coward. He should be banned himself for his extreme use of bad language alone! Nobody who's truly sane could have any respect you bunch of phony poseurs (look it up, that IS the word that EXACTLY describes you bunch of ignorant cowards hiding behind Alex Jones)!
"It is written, thus says the Lord [God in Jesus the Christ, the Word(s) of God]...." "....Get... BEHIND (Jesus the Christ, you devils)....(!)" "....You are OF your father the devil, and the lies of your father you... do....(!)" (Matthew 16:23 and John 8:44; emphasis added by me),
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I don't give a rats ass about all the control freaks, magalomaniacs, stalkers, and holier-than-thous on this site. Just keep pushing the truth out. I have been preparing all my life to go down with the ship swinging...
Riley
(now into Silent War mode while I shift gears and begin to research some things further).
(Remember, the mind-controllers must be just as paranoid. Who is controlling them?? They know the technology that exists, so they must be scared shitless it is being used on them.)
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http://www.spychips.com/ - can never get enough exposure
http://oversight.house.gov/Docum.../Docum...10408-
19631.pdf - print before you leave work and let coworkers find it in the morning
http://www.aztlan.net/oiltanker.htm - priceless
http://mindprod.com/politics/asb...s/ asbestos.html - The dangers of politics
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#1 - Bookmarked will keep up to date like Bradblog with the voting Bullshit
#2 - Seen it, but waiting for the missing Rumsfeld 2.1 trillion document
#3 - I need a mirror
#4 - TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MORE MORE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wolf:
what has happened to you ???
God would never condone your behavior on this board.
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http://www.spychips.com/ - can never get enough exposure
http://oversight.house.gov/Docum...10408-
19631.pdf - print before you leave work and let coworkers find it in the morning 
http://www.aztlan.net/oiltanker.htm - priceless
http://mindprod.com/politics/asb...s/
asbestos.html - The dangers of politics
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Wolf Yeah I am still kicking.Just had to get away from the post as some of the staff here is beyond nuts.I will leave the name out.We pretty much know who I am talking about.I will ignore this being.
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You've got it, Tammy! There's a clique of control freaks here, and it's supposedly okay for them to attack people and defend things with "four letter" expletives; but gods-forbid if newcomers and/or anyone else makes them feel threatened, stands up to them, tells them like it is, defends themselves and/or truth, supposedy "quotes too much Bible" [as if we can possibly quote too much of God's Word(s); or, for some of them, even any)], criticises their high and mighty lord, Alex Jones, isn't completely for a suicidal, violent revolution, etc., then they will go ballistic and attack you up one side and down the other, as you've seen happen to me!
This crap happens on all the "truther" or "patriot" boards. They all too often let them be taken over by such a clique of control freaks, which often even includes the owner and/or webmaster of the board, though I don't think that's the case here, because I don't think the Watson brothers would be sucked into this childish crap. I think they're too busy to keep up with this forum, and/or they're just letting it go to hell until they set up something better on the new "portal" website that Alex has been talking about and his true staff are working on getting setup and online. Maybe they set this site up to divert the crazies away from emailing and spamming them as much. [Sorry guys, if that's the case, for giving it away!]
Anyhow, you rock, Girl! I'm very impressed with and proud of you! You're waking up more and more every day, including to the so-called truthers who want to be in control of everyone and everything they can be. They're part of what's truly destroying the truth movement; and, of course, they're clueless to that fact. They truly believe they've got the movement cornered, only they're right, they've got to try and control everyone else, etc. And, if you stand up to them and/or tell it like it is, as I already said, you're right, LOOK OUT, you're the next target for their wrath! The old saying for this evil phenomenon ought to be, "Hell hath no fury like a control freak, blind follower, violence and hate monger, 'truther' scorned!"
Sis, I'm diverting their scorn away from you (hopefully), and I'll take the heat while you go on to bigger and better things! Don't let these burning, negatively-compromised "castles", so to speak, get you down, discourage or distract you from getting the True Work done! For kicks, if you can laugh at it and not let it depress you, watch how I'll probably be "flamed" up one side and down the other for speaking the truth they don't want to hear or see! They "shoot down" their own who don't conform to their narrowminded, control-freak, "cultish" clique! They can't stand or handle constructive criticism, people calling them on their shit, and/or anyone standing up to them. They're "little gods" bowing prostate at the feet of their "big dog" god who must supposedly not be questioned, or the wrath of the clique cult will descend down upon you with no mercy, unless of course they think they got you to kiss their behinds, but they won't tolerate, at all, anyone who doesn't kiss anyone's rear end, that's for sure!
ONLY 100% Truth, in the Prince of "ONLY True Peace", Jesus the Christ's name(!!),
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yupyup, pray they take swearing in to protect this nation and constitution against enemies both foreign and domestic... and start with the domestic ones first!! the foreign ones would probably begin to respect us again after that.
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Oh and for all the NSA/CIA/State Dept/Secret Service etc. officers/workers. Thank you for your kind service and for taking an oath on this:
.................THE BILL OF RIGHTS.................
.........Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution.....
The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution;
Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States; all or any of which articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the said Constitution, namely:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
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only bummer there being the pricetag on it..
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Kinda wondering why I got a call from Las Vegas myself today with (origin blocked). Wierd shit going on here.
Riley
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Uh dude, why the fuck do we care if they come to get us????????
They are coming anyway!!!!!!!!!!
BLOG BLOG BLOG..........
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Kinda wondering why I got a call from Las Vegas myself today with (origin blocked). Wierd shit going on here.
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Who are these guys? What role have they played in the development of all NATO intelligence organisations? Makes one wonder if the war really ended, and why really won/will win.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Rei...Reinhard_Gehlen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ott...i/ Otto_Skorzeny
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Dude I am stealing all your shit and posting it everywhere, keep it fucking coming, let's break this fucking dam!!!!!!
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Riley,
Sorry, I don'f understand what you're referring to. Who called, and what did they say?
Thanks 
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If anyone can get highlights of this Horizon program to be uploaded, I'd like to see it.
Fire control technology..if it's given the go-ahead and the BBC gets involved..well, I personally believe that all it will do is allow certain people to create 911 scenario's much easier than they have already. And you can bet your last dollar, there will be a private interest building this system, one that is accountable only to itself. Just like the US electronic voting system.
This Horizon program has basically inferred that fires brought down the WTC buildings, despite the official investigation being inconclusive. Sounds to me like the BBC is pushing an agenda and this would not be the first time I have seen this. Certainly won't be the last I bet..
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Re: Professor Fired Over VTech Comments
This, while unfortunate for the professor and all that America once stood for, is actually great news. Finally, universities are being outed for what they've become: NWO indoctrination and brainwashing centers. The more they act this way the more we'll have the opportunity to see their true colors as enemies of free thought and free speech and genuine criticism and patriotism and conscientious objection.
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Who are these guys? What role have they played in the development of all NATO intelligence organisations? Makes one wonder if the war really ended, and why really won/will win.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ott...i/
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Correction: I'd rather be a coward and die on my feet, than live in denial, on my knees.
Apologies for my oversight.
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Kinda wondering why I got a call from Las Vegas myself today with (origin blocked). Wierd shit going on here.
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'Prison Planet is for Cowards.'
I'd rather be a coward and die on my knees than live in denial, on my feet. For I know in my heart that what I am fighting for..what I am defending here..is right and just. Until that time approaches, I sleep sound at night like millions of other across the planet who have also realised we are fighting a global war, a war of information.
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'It is my opinion that Alex and his team of goons are all weak big mouths.'
And it is your right to have an opinion. It's also mine.
Does that opinion take into account the fact that the 911 issue is more than Alex Jones? Doesn't your opinion lead you to question just what the hell is happening to this country..it's constitution..it's freedoms..it's people?
Irrespective of your take on Alex and his team, these problems aren't going away - in fact, they're getting worse.
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James, chris jones:
In the heat of the moment I told the shill to stfu today. Sorry if I offended. I only said it once. The shill is reposting all day.
This is going to continue until we all walk away.
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Prison Planet is for Cowards.
Alex showed us his true colors when ManCow bitch slapped him months ago. I should have read the writing on the wall back then. It is my opinion that Alex and his team of goons are all weak big mouths.
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RE: WTC collapse.
Anyone seen this program:
Tuesday, 24 Apr 2007
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An investigation into the work of Edinburgh University's Professor Jose Torero, who claim that he has developed a revolutionary new method of protecting firefighters from death in burning skyscrapers. Even with disasters such as the September 11 attacks so fresh in the memory, the professor believes that the lessons of these catastrophes have not yet been learned
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"Bang, bang, bang..that's what it sounded like to me..like a high-speed pile driver..I thought to myself, how could this be? It did not seem possible or real."
- Witness, 911 WTC fall.
"The official investigation concluded that the collapse was due to extreme temperatures weakening the structure of the tower"
- BBC.
..the BBC then instantly gets some guy to talk about winds and earthquakes. Then goes on to talk about incredible heat over multiple floors - BULL. The fires weren't at the base. Similar buildings have also burned for DAYS.
This is a classic example of the BBC trying to act as a front over something it claims to be entirely impartial. It claims that fire destroyed the WTC yet there is NO evidence of this.
..and naturally, there was no "cock-up" in getting footage to try and prove that fire brought those buildings down, which wasn't proved at all.
All the BBC has done is claim that if this system was installed in the towes it could have given the firefighters 30mins more to plan in advance of it falling. This theory is bogus for it relies upon the premise that fire brought down these buildings.
I'M SICK OF THESE LIES FROM THE MEDIA. STOP USING THESE PROGRAMS AS A FRONT.
911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
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http://www.preferrednetwork.com/
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re sane
Im happy you liked the page Its enough to keep anyone busy for a few days.
Speaking of movies, you probably saw this one before, but if not: http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808
If you manage to get through it you will be a wiser but surely more worried man
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 4:24 pm | #
FUCK YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KEEP IT COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MORE MORE MORE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WH created an investigator to investigate the WH, Cafferty just said, "what are they nuts, that is like Charles Manson investigating his murders."
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Banned by webmaster. Your comments will not be added
Enter your comment at the foot of the page (Please be aware that comments are moderated).
Because he and his goons are all afraid of someone with brains writing posts.
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Wake up Fools, or better yet, stay in hiding and leave the rest of us alone!
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Im happy you liked the page Its enough to keep anyone busy for a few days.
Speaking of movies, you probably saw this one before, but if not: http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
If you manage to get through it you will be a wiser but surely more worried man 
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just 2 let u know
i am NOT joining the
so called revolution
it is all BS.
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There is something to be aware of here guys...my take on the search for the truth fueling violence is a parallel to the way they have been fucking us for generations. The real way to destroy them is simple...passive resistance (from my post on another thread):
illuminati have been praying for anarchy (that is why Cheney and Buffett were in a bunker on 911-911 was a test complete with data analysis).
What they truly fear is passive resistance, that makes them go completely fucking haywire.
They were so pissed that the LSD thing created so many peaceful thinkers in passive resistence movements (they did win with the women's lib thing though). They really wanted the musicians to create a world of fucking satanists and went crazy when the music created more free thinking and exposure of the folly of authority and polarity.
The passive resistence going on with the internet is really making them nuts so they pay shills to divert many conversations only to be exposed as having alterior motifs.
So much of their shit backfires and then they go crazy and blow up shit (oldie but goody) and sacrifice more of our children.
Roger Waters' Final Cut (Last Pink Floyd album with him) simplifies the whole fucking thing, espechially the fletcher memorial.
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just 2 let u know
i am NOT joining the
so called revolution
it is all BS.
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I imagine the Wiccan symbol they are allowing for soldiers graves now, is an Illuminati symbol
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/23...e.ap/
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"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."
Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group, California Medical School, 1961
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More proof of the Rockefeller family's Classical Luciferian tradition. A look at the gardens around the families Kykuit Estate in NY. Statues and sculptures like "Black Sun", "Jubilee" and "Moon Path" all have satanic meanings. Check it out yourselves:
http://www.hudsonvalley.org/
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Homeland Security existed before 9/11???
http://digg.com/politics/
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When it comes to having explosive info, that page kicks the nuts clean off most other pages. And it has been up for ages without any sign of going down
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 3:04 pm | #
I love the name of the site. Besides the historical analogies, it reminds me of the movie SPARTAN (Val Kilmer)
Thought it was a good fiction when I first saw it, now it looks like a frickin documentary of 2 year old events.
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Marcianne,
This is not like you. Are you alright?
Well, We love ya!
james | 04.24.07 - 1:07 pm | #
Marcianne.. me too.
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Hello!
[url=http://soma-g7fd.blogspot.com/]soma[/url] http://soma-g7fd.blogspot.com/
Cao!
Barmental |
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When it comes to having explosive info, that page kicks the nuts clean off most other pages. And it has been up for ages without any sign of going down
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 3:04 pm | #
MORE MORE MORE
I want More, give me More.
http://
www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...Airancontra.htm
MORE TRUTH MORE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great Fucking Site!
sane |
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04.24.07 - 3:24 pm | #
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When it comes to having explosive info, that page kicks the nuts clean off most other pages. And it has been up for ages without any sign of going down
ak48 | 04.24.07 - 3:04 pm | #
TYVM!!!!!!
Can you locate the hidden WTC steel link, please?
sane |
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04.24.07 - 3:21 pm | #
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Why don't you shut the fck up?
Why don't you shut the fck up?
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marcianne.
your web page with the forest and wolf.
your server, we have your apartment addy.
the other one.
Is joanne bishop.
seems, he three sons and one
adult grown up daughter JJ.
play of jeff renses forums.
They bounced around the Internet.
She has an adult son named richard dan bishop a felon. stole computers. hes a parole. Richard Dan Bishop carried his stalking to peoples residences, and the cops know. jaonne bishop, and richard dan bishop, and his adult brother greg bishop from oregon.
The police cheif of Las Vegas knows them, went to their residence many,many times, she tried to commit suicide.
They continued to stalk, and worse.
There is also a restaining order on one of the abusers. As you saw they are delutional, and dangerous. Marcienne could be greg bishops ex-wife. They live in Oregon. Richard will break into homes, when someone disagrees with him, or his mother(hes 45).
Richard dan bishop moved from his mothers home, and moved down the street, and his neighbor said he borrowed money and left in a hurry as forcloseure took place. The daughter hangs around Bar in Las Vegas. Theres pictures of this, the Bar I forgot the name.
They basicaly stalk art bell and radio hosts, and have been into trouble and terminted from many message BBs, and servers. They like to "taunt" posters.etc.
Its just they keep satlking anyone whos has a different view.
Joanne Bishop is on medication. Richard Dan Bishop is a felon.
They broke into my home and the police/sherriffs know they did. Its serious. I was affraid on Alex Jones family. Richard is armed and dangerous.
There address is 4072 Pleasant st.
Las Vegas ,Nevada.
I have both Marianne addy to.
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chris jones,
Were you a ground pounder?
james | 04.24.07 - 12:47 pm | #
Hi James, I was in direct support unit 25th.Inf.on the Cambodian border, a place called Tay Ninh, some called it rocket city, we got rockets on us about daily, all kinds of underground bunkers. Mostly did night security, Listening posts, back up to Firebases, and the good days was a shotgun run to a different locale.Before that was 11ACR Blackhorse B.C. a place called Xuan loc.
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theres not links to "Ring of Power" by amenstop productions, theres tons of other links to those words yes. what I have is a 688 Mb avi file about 5 hrs long obtained 'other places' of course.
its probably banned or censored by many groups for what it tells.. very straightforward real information about secret societies, 911, and near blasphemous about origins of christianity too -falls right into secret societies category too!
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re sane
Too much info on this page? Hardly It wont be shut down for that reason i can assure you. Here´s a page that should worry if your statement had any merit:
http://
www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...JFKshackley.htm
When it comes to having explosive info, that page kicks the nuts clean off most other pages. And it has been up for ages without any sign of going down
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Thanks, James. But I just pick stuff up out of Digg's new story section.
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04.24.07 - 2:47 pm | #
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Only 3% of Pakistanis believe that Al-Qaeda did 9/11
http://digg.com/world_news/
POLL_..._Queda_Did_9_11
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BTW other threads are still trying to promote the illuminati divide and conquer technique, so I will share my response. Hope it is not too elementary for you guys:
Do you actually believe the BS about conspiracy based on race?
Don't you know that race hate is an illuminati trick (no matter what the racial composition of the illuminati)
Civil War - Illuminati to get federal power over the state powers (Racist southerners were pawns in this game)
WWI - Illuminati caused it to shift public thinking about the need to go to war
WWII - Illuminati created it to create the UN or one world government (Nazis and Jews were pawns)
War on Terror - Illuminati created to take away all civil liberties and create TOTAL ENSLAVEMENT - Illuminati created Islamic Fundamentalism and look how those poor bastards are being slaughtered as collateral damage while they steal our liberties.
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OMG, I just submitted Terrorstorm to www.reddit.com and after 10 minutes it disappeared completely from the system. I called it something that would catch peoples' eye. Terrorstorm - A history of False Flag Terror: Blow things up, Blame it on others, Fool the Voters, Go to War.
Then I did a search for Terrorstorm on the site to see if it was still there. Mine was gone. These versions with less explicative titles were still there, burried. Unbelievable. : (
http://reddit.com/search?q=terrorstorm
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Sees Things. Try re-posting the link a few times to get some attention. Probably getting lost in the riff-raff...
Riley
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yuppers, am dissappointed for e-mailing to PP offering this "Ring of Power" video I keep plugging that was produced by amenstop productions. it'd be a great addition for truthers and waking people up by sharing it.. dissappointed for zero response. my cynical side thinks the PP crew more interested in their own video sales, which isnt a good feeling at all, knowing the video's FULL of great information.
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probably has multiple huge gas mains going into a major part of it too
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Did you hear in the Mainscream Talking Head Screws are talking about that lethal injection isn't "HUMANE", so could we be starting to see them introduce the Guillotine, as HUMANE, watch where this goes.
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Shit man, that stuff although obviously true really makes me want to put my head in the sand.
Guess I will let you into my mind, come on it, the air is safe...
Must pull it out of the sand and keep communicating.
Must keep fighting for this country and its citizens.
Must be at least 10% as courageous as our founding fathers and protectors of our freedoms.
Must resist the easy way out.
Must continue to share and investigate and connect the obvious dots.
Must be a TRUE PATRIOT!
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BTW guys, if this info is useful to you, save this page often, it most likely will be killed soon, there is just a bit too much info on it. I have seen it done before. It won't be by Jones/Watson. blogging software is compromisable and can be shut down at any time.
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IMPEACH THAT POS NOW!
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your a nut.
a criminal.
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a stalker.
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the really sad part is people acting as operatives thinking theyre doing something good exposing and listing "dissenters" are actually harming the people and constitution they swore in to uphold and protect.
Sees Things | 04.24.07 - 1:28 pm | #
It is worse than that. Neo-Cons, KKK, Neo-Nazis, religious fanatics who were put into different positions under the guise that they would be the chosen ones are and have always been deceived. They are used by Illuminati like pawns in the plans for the NWO, for reference see WWII. Most of the germans were scapegoated while the elites were put in project paperclip, etc. The same thing was done in the civil war, in the war on terror (Illuminati created islamic fundamentalism under the guise of protecting USA from communists-it did not exist before the Ruski/Afghan war-now look at those poor bastards being schredded). They create opposing factions, have them kill each other, then protect the planners (Iran Contra exposed a lot of this-the real criminals walked while millions of Iranians and Iraqis were slaughtered-the son of the most guitly person is in the WH).
So the question to the shills is, can't you see you are a pawn to be slaughtered? I doubt an elite would waste time here.
See American History X for more about the cowards that manipulate kids with hate to do their dirty work.
PAWNS ARE ALWAYS KILLED FOR THE GOOD OF THE ELITES
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04.24.07 - 1:41 pm | #
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probably has multiple huge gas mains going into a major part of it too
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Did you hear in the Mainscream Talking Head Screws are talking about that lethal injection isn't "HUMANE", so could we be starting to see them introduce the Guillotine, as HUMANE, watch where this goes.
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Cheney has served America honorably for 40 years?!? WTF???? All he's done beginning with his many deferments to get out of serving in Vietnam is learn and use the system to his benefit to get wealthy, powerful, and take more control. Bush is a skuller with not much in that skull but a loyal puppet for sure,,,Dickey is an evil paranoid f*head who is actually more dangerous beleiving in his fears than if he was just a fuckoff like W. He would rather us nuke Iran and start WW3 on the premise that down the road maybe when Iran aquires nukes they will sign off on a suicide mission and use them on us or that irritant state of Israel. Bullshit!!!! These fucks want war cause they get richer and richer from a prolonged & wider war....they care not about America or American's at all or else the borders would not be wide open to illegals while stripping away our freedoms at home...freedoms from you and I...the real Americans. Impeach, Imprision, Immediatly. Of course what will happen will happen and we really have no control here anymore but it's good to vent and at least feel free....soon that will be gone also. Peace
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OH yes, in the state I live in they built a new prison and it's right near railroad tracks. We already have a huge prison in this state.
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IMPEACH THAT POS NOW!
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James: I've said many times Baby Bush is our last selected President and our first Pricktraitor, Prick,Dictator and Traitor in one. Something will happen so there won't be another election(selection), it's just a show.
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the really sad part is people acting as operatives thinking theyre doing something good exposing and listing "dissenters" are actually harming the people and constitution they swore in to uphold and protect.
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TO JPJ-I NEVER SAID ALEX JONES STAFF IS NUTS SO STOP PUTTING WORDS I DID NOT SAY IN MY NAME.YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE NUTS AND YES YOU ARE SARA SO SHUT THE FCK UP WITCH.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 12:20 pm | #
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your so trasparent.
macianne.
the work fck.
gave you away.
stalker.
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you are one.
uno
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O.K. I get it. jpj is Sara's sister right? ahemm...
Riley
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__________________________________________________
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Are you smoking CRACK?
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For anyone who wants to put Digg real time activity on their Windows desktop in the background, follow these directions. You need to get into Display Properties->Desktop->Desktop Items->Web->New Desktop Item
1. Right click on your desktop background
2. Left click on "properties" at the bottom
3. Left click on "desktop" tab at the top
4. Left click on the long "Customize Desktop" button at the bottom left
5. Left click on the "Web" tab at the top
6. Left click on "New..." on the right (now you will be in a menu called New Desktop Item)
7. Enter one of these three dynamic real time activity of Digg (whichever one you like most)
http://labs.digg.com/bigspy (I like this one)
http://www.digg.com/spy
http://labs.digg.com/stack/
http://labs.digg.com/swarm/
8. Press "ok" to go back to Desktop Items
9. Make sure the input you created is checked off and press ok
10. Press "Apply in the bottom corner"
11. Then Press "ok"
12. Your new Digg real time activity box should show up on your desktop and start showing realtime stories.
13. You can resize the box to whatever size you want and click on the stories to open them.
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yup, vince (*mcmahon WWE wrestling promoter) was obvious enough. twisted for sure.
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I will truly be surprised if this country has another so called election.
I really do expect that Bush will call marshal law.
That is why this cabal has over 600 FEMA Camps built and is building Federal Prisons at an alarming rate.
We are in real trouble in this country.
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Why don't you shut the fck up?
Why don't you shut the fck up?
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sicko.
i am hal on the computer.
you have a bad sence of cuss.
stalker.
cho's ex-right?
leave sister sara alone.
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Poster earlier about the systematic effort of AEI and fronts to connect 911 truthers with VT, the plan etc, can be found on this thread:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../?
a=41589#67528
But here is just some of the proof from yesterdays pow-wow:
It is all over the blogs, here will be the connection:
Loner-anti-social-anti-govt-anti-rich-anti-
establishment...
911 Truthers are being today called anti-establishment anti-american and crazy (Rosie anyone????)
CALL THE COPS!!!!!!!!
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SMOKING GUN #1 (MORE TO COME)
Check out this blog entry just yesterday:
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Dude, the debunking of the truth about 911 being an inside job is so 2003. Catch up.
Every intelligence officer in the world knows it. Just need to get rid of Gonzo to pursue it without unnecessary obstruction.
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Catch up?... Maybe you should sober up. This inside job stuff is major psycho stuff. You're not armed by any chance are you? Hopefully you're nowhere near any campuses. Repeat after me..."the voices in my head are not real....the voices in my head are not real". Ok...now ..this time all by yourself...."the voices......"
Tell Elvis that Vince said "hey" when you see him.
Vince | 04.23.07 - 1:14 pm | #
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They are all over the blogs, paid by AEI or fronts to connect 911 truthers with VT.
WATCH FOR IT
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I just posted that to make a point. Can never be sure can we?
That is just one of the probs with this site I suppose. No definitive link back to the origin of the post.
Riley
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mr. know it all.
the stalkers are yours.
just dont disagree with the two female
"nuts".
creepy.
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copy/paste works.
blog gone.
comments11, now.
(those two control freaks/stalkers.
did the comments1/---9. ruined them.
the staff is "sane"
lol
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Why don't you shut the fck up?
Why don't you shut the fck up?
Marcianne | 04.24.07 - 11:58 am | # | 04.24.07 - 11:58 am | #
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Marcianne,
This is not like you. Are you alright?
Well, We love ya!
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the drawbacks of the blog, yes posting addies is cool to go look, but theres not private chat and theres not sharing of good audio and video stuff..
and of course refreshes and scrolling to find stuff
between some bickerings
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I just posted that to make a point. Can never be sure can we?
That is just one of the probs with this site I suppose. No definitive link back to the origin of the post.
Riley
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Ok it is obvious I am the new target-see ya
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To JpJ ,I have only been here a few weeks and I do not understand everything and someone said to me that they thought that this was a white supremasy site.I know it is about 911 and the evil stuff,however with Sara and her multiple post names and her obvious hate of mexicans ,it made me wonder.
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a simple question from sane and your a target.
you are nuts you know?
thought your were going?
the blog is not your home.
flameing,spamming, wont help.
after lieing you did call alex jones staff"nuts"
wright a book titled.
how stalkers are created on the Internet.
you disagree.
your a crimminal.
both your insane posts today show this.
weakness.
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lol no, , a listener to AJ about a year and new to posting here this week.. and an online chat veteran some 6 years too that really doesnt like drama.. were this my chatroom lots would hate being kickbanned and gagged for some of the stuff
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why don't you stalk sara?
nut
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Why don't you shut the fck up?
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i don't have the answer.
why don't you and that other gal.
stalk sara.
i am sure thats what "stalkers" like yourself on the
Internet do best.
its to bad, we know who both you idiots are.
the cops to.
funny.
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stalk here more.
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guess my stuff is getting purposefully downgraded by some, so for the benefit of the casual observer...welcome to the magic of reposting:
Timm: Bill Maher talks about PNAC. This isn't too bad. But he doesn't talk about False Flag Terror. This is so key right now.
Yup and he failed to mention the puppet masters of PNAC - AEI. You guys want to know why the fuck our kids are dying???????
Look at this from media controlled Wikipedia (every fucking one has committed crimes against humanity through their bribes, lies, and blackmail):
* John R. Bolton, former U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations.
* Lynne Cheney, wife of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, AEI senior fellow.
* Mark Falcoff, Resident Scholar Emeritus and Latin America expert.
* David Frum, an author and former speechwriter for Bush, is a resident fellow.
* Reuel Marc Gerecht is a resident fellow. He is the director of the Project for the New American Century's Middle East Initiative and a former Middle East specialist at the CIA.
* Newt Gingrich, member of the Republican Party and Speaker of the United States House of Representatives between 1995 and 1999, is a senior fellow at AEI focusing on health care (he has founded the Center for Health Transformation), information technology, the military, and politics.
* James K. Glassman, author of Dow 36,000, is a resident fellow.
* Michael Greve is the John G. Searle Scholar and director of AEI's Federalism Project.
* Frederick M. Hess studies education policy and is executive director of Education Next.
* Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a former Dutch politician, women's rights activist and critic of Islamism & Shar'ia Law.
Frederick Kagan is a military historian and signatory of Project for the New American Century manifesto titled Rebuilding America's Defenses (2000) along with his brother Robert (co-founder of the PNAC) and his father and fellow neo-conservative, Donald Kagan.
* Jeane Kirkpatrick was the former U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations and was an AEI senior fellow until she died in 2006.
* Michael Ledeen was previously involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair — an adventure that he documented in his book, Perilous Statecraft: An Insider's Account of the Iran-Contra Affair.
* Allan Meltzer is one of the foremost academics studying monetary policy and the Federal Reserve Bank. He, along with economist Milton Friedman, pioneered monetarism, the now widely accepted theory that inflation is entirely the result of the growth of the money supply. Meltzer is currently working on the second volume of his History of the Federal Reserve.
* Joshua Muravchik is a resident scholar. He researches Middle East politics, democracy, neoconservatism and the history of socialism.
* Charles Murray, an influential policy writer and a researcher, is the W.H. Brady Scholar in Culture and Freedom. He is best known as the co-author of the controversial 1994 book, The Bell Curve.
* Michael Novak is the George Frederick Jewett Scholar in Religion, Philosophy and Public Policy and Director of Social and Political Studies at the institute. He has written extensively about the role of faith in government.
* Norman Ornstein has been a Congressional analyst and political commentator for more than thirty five years.
* Richard Perle served on the United States Defense Policy Board and is a former Assistant Secretary of Defense.
* Sally Satel is a psychiatrist and author of PC, M.D.: How Political Correctness is Corrupting Medicine.
* Christina Hoff Sommers is a critic of the feminist movement. She is the author of Who Stole Feminism and The War Against Boys.
* Fred Thompson, Television and film actor, currently appearing on the television show Law & Order, former U.S. Senator, is a visiting fellow.
* Ben Wattenberg, a speechwriter for President Lyndon B. Johnson, is a senior fellow.
* John Yoo, formerly of the Office of Legal Counsel, and a professor at Boalt Hall, is a visiting scholar.
AEI Funders
* The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc.* Castle Rock Foundation* Coors Brewing Company* Earhart Foundation* ExxonMobil* JM Foundation* Microsoft Corporation [1]* Philip M. McKenna Foundation, Inc.* John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.* Rockefeller Brothers Fund[14]* Sarah Scaife Foundation* Scaife Family Foundation* Smith Richardson Foundation
Connections (from sourcewatch.org)
* The Center for the Study of American Business and the Center for Strategic and International Studies are said to be spinoffs of the AEI (Saloma, 1984). * The Business Roundtable: according to journalist Sidney Blumenthal, making contributions to AEI was a pitch made at almost every policy committee meeting of the Roundtable * During the 80s, staff members funded with the hawkish anticommunist group Committee on the Present Danger. * Staff alumni Jeane Kirkpatrick and William Simon were vice president and chairman of the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund. * Alumni Michael Novak and Irving Kristol co-founded the Coalition for a Democratic Majority * Heritage Foundation * Council for National Policy * Center for Strategic and International Studies* Center for Security Policy founded by Frank Gaffney, Jr. with an alleged mission to "promote peace through American strength".
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chris jones,
Were you a ground pounder?
james |
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Wolf Yeah I am still kicking.Just had to get away from the post as some of the staff here is beyond nuts.I will leave the name out.We pretty much know who I am talking about.I will ignore this being.
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the staff is "sane" your
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Riley,
I think you are right !
If we as a people can't get a handle on this cabal soon, it will be beyound our power to win.
I love my country. I want America back.
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In Vietnam, there were, whites, blacks, Mexicans, Puerto Rican, Indians, Hawians, in the same unit. There were Protestants, Catholics, Jews,Evangelsits, Catholics, Buddists, Agnostics, Athiests, to name a few.
We were together, and attempting to survive. We should all be doing the same thing here and now, not only for survival, but for our freedoms as Citizens of this land.
And to, for those innocent human beings being slaughtered, imagine 600,000 infants, children, woman and men in a pile up.It would make the twin towers look like a toothpick.
Many of you have chidren, how fuhken hideus to even think of their death. Nightmarish is it not, does the thought give trembles, cause hair to stand on end, panic. As it well should.
Consider, the infants in Iraq, picture the kids kicking around a ball, and then imagine bloody rags with the remains of these these same children..Imagine scraping the body parts of your children from the walls and floors so you may properly bury them.This is but a keyhole looking into the door of war, I pary those who choose not to see where this country is headed and what it has done do not ever have to pass through the door of that keyhole, and I continue to pray they open their hearts and minds to the destruction,death,misery and suffering we have wrought. Beleive, in this pack of human waste who now control us, Never, if people can not see where we are headed, if they can not feel the suffering and death and not feel anything, if they are so pitifully brainwashed they beleive in the bloodsukers running us,they are doomed in more ways than one.
Bush, Cheney, Rumsy,Rice, Gonzales, Rove, hell the whole gang of them, do you think they give a shit about the suffering and death. Do you think they realy care. They are pathological liars and deceivers, sold out elitists. Determined to take over this land. May they live with the stench of death in ther nostirls, may they crawl among the dead infants for eternity. May all their fortunes be confiscated and returned to this land, any firm that profited from this war, confiscate their profits, IMPEACH , DETaIN, and a trial for High Treason, conspiracy, deceiving Americans, mass murder to name a few.
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Pat Tillman's mom is kicking the shit out of the congressional shills trying to convince us that the true horrors in the Iraq War are not worth investigating till the end.
YOU GO GIRL!!!!
When the video is posted of his brother's opening statement, watch it and weep for how little this administration supports our troops. And how the admin manipulates our dead children's memories for their political gain.
There is no longer any debate. Pat Tillman was used like the horse in Animal Farm (after his death and maybe during, before that he was one of the bravest men on the planet and no one should forget it). This outing of the grand conspiracy to polarize this country into continuing the illegal action in Iraq is HUGE!
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And the SAD part is that most are in denial as to how immediate the threat really is or you would discontinue the petty games. What a bunch of HORSESHIT!!! Your folly will become apparent in the very NEAR future when most of us will be worrying about how to "survive" rather than forming alliances and clicks on some message board.
What a joke!
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i can just sense another.
bitch fight.
right,ipeachy?
thought you left for good.
back?
lier.
who wants to relate to liers, and
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fck?
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I am sorry for telling you that I thought you were wrong on the bird flu thing a couple of weeks ago.
Some time a person should just wait and see.
Right Timm?
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Is jpj really Sara? Is Gabriel now SeesThings?? Seems there is some game playing going on here. Just remember. People who approach PP for the first time are getting the wrong impression about the honest people who are working hard to destroy the lies around us. Why must we decieve one another??
Riley
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WOW What the heck is going on in here, reading back, shit everyone is busy attacking each others character, you're doing exactly what they want, everyone on the same land hating and destroying each other, you are brainwashed by evil and are playing into their hands. SHAME ON YOU!!!Get on with the task at hand.
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impressive post sane, more real info naming names than listening to AJ for a year!
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The evidence is staring us in the face. AEI pays the media oligopoly (actually there is an undercurrent of a symbiotic relationship, but I digress) to get their shills all over the fucking place. The staged 2 minute debates clutter our minds with BS talking points that feed their way to our daily conversations polarizing us and blinding us.
Just look at the source of the problem, the disease not the symptoms. Go to sourcewatch.org and similar sites that show the conspiracy in black and white. It is sitting right there.
From Sourcewatch.org on AEI connections:
Connections
* The Center for the Study of American Business and the Center for Strategic and International Studies are said to be spinoffs of the AEI (Saloma, 1984).
* The Business Roundtable: according to journalist Sidney Blumenthal, making contributions to AEI was a pitch made at almost every policy committee meeting of the Roundtable
* During the 80s, staff members funded with the hawkish anticommunist group Committee on the Present Danger.
* Staff alumni Jeane Kirkpatrick and William Simon were vice president and chairman of the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund.
* Alumni Michael Novak and Irving Kristol co-founded the Coalition for a Democratic Majority
* Heritage Foundation
* Council for National Policy
* Center for Strategic and International Studies
* Center for Security Policy founded by Frank Gaffney, Jr. with an alleged mission to "promote peace through American strength".
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Timm,
You should be a reporter brother.
You come up with the good stuff.
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I knew this Bird Flu thing was a hoax. I could feel it in my bones.
http://digg.com/politics/
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Wolf Yeah I am still kicking.Just had to get away from the post as some of the staff here is beyond nuts.I will leave the name out.We pretty much know who I am talking about.I will ignore this being.
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he must be hard as nails considering what he has done so far.
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He does seem to have an impenatrable shield from decades of integrity. When the shills attack, after a few minutes they are usually left dumbfounded as to why they even fought. The Glenn Beck interview was precious. Jones is a great man.
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its here you called the staff "nuts"
stop spamming it down.
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Crhistopher Shay asked about what is wrong with the inspector general report that he (R-CT) co-pursued into Pat Tillman's death.
Pat Tillman's Brother's response, after giving an example in the report of an apparent cover-up:
"The whole thing is a fraud sir!"
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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impressive post sane, more real info naming names than listening to AJ for a year!
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I understand totally. I have been here for many months, and am now part of a group of regulars that e-mail each other with special links.
We have never seen this kind of invasion. And that is clearly what it is.
I think your idea for your dvd is good. Don't be scared to pass them out. Once you do it a couple of times you get used to telling people straight out. Grocery clerks. Gas station attendants. Etc. People are hungry for truth.
There was an article published in March in a porn magazine about 9/11. So I went in the party store and showed it to the owner and told him to read the article. He had no idea.
You will be fine girl.
Don't allow the words from ignorant people get to you!
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you go to adult book stores?
is that were you larned to spell fck?
sara is correct.
what adult arcade booth do you go to?
take granny with you.
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invade?
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TO JPJ-I NEVER SAID ALEX JONES STAFF IS NUTS SO STOP PUTTING WORDS I DID NOT SAY IN MY NAME.YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE NUTS AND YES YOU ARE SARA SO SHUT THE FCK UP WITCH.
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video stuff .. with google, yahoo and youtube pulling video's and messing up links, get the little app that lets you download these videos so they still exist somewheres.
I'm not anyone wealthy, but converting dvd or avi format to an mpeg-1 VCD format.. some quality losses yes, but blanks are a lot cheaper and they will play in most all dvd players, VCD burned.
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Bill Maher talks about PNAC. This isn't too bad. But he doesn't talk about False Flag Terror. This is so key right now.
http://digg.com/ political_opinio...st_See#c6321685
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Yup and he failed to mention the puppet masters of PNAC - AEI. You guys want to know why the fuck our kids are dying???????
Look at this from media controlled Wikipedia (every fucking one has committed crimes against humanity through their bribes, lies, and blackmail):
* John R. Bolton, former U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations.
* Lynne Cheney, wife of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, AEI senior fellow.
* Mark Falcoff, Resident Scholar Emeritus and Latin America expert.
* David Frum, an author and former speechwriter for Bush, is a resident fellow.
* Reuel Marc Gerecht is a resident fellow. He is the director of the Project for the New American Century's Middle East Initiative and a former Middle East specialist at the CIA.
* Newt Gingrich, member of the Republican Party and Speaker of the United States House of Representatives between 1995 and 1999, is a senior fellow at AEI focusing on health care (he has founded the Center for Health Transformation), information technology, the military, and politics.
* James K. Glassman, author of Dow 36,000, is a resident fellow.
* Michael Greve is the John G. Searle Scholar and director of AEI's Federalism Project.
* Frederick M. Hess studies education policy and is executive director of Education Next.
* Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a former Dutch politician, women's rights activist and critic of Islamism & Shar'ia Law.
Frederick Kagan is a military historian and signatory of Project for the New American Century manifesto titled Rebuilding America's Defenses (2000) along with his brother Robert (co-founder of the PNAC) and his father and fellow neo-conservative, Donald Kagan.
* Jeane Kirkpatrick was the former U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations and was an AEI senior fellow until she died in 2006.
* Michael Ledeen was previously involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair — an adventure that he documented in his book, Perilous Statecraft: An Insider's Account of the Iran-Contra Affair.
* Allan Meltzer is one of the foremost academics studying monetary policy and the Federal Reserve Bank. He, along with economist Milton Friedman, pioneered monetarism, the now widely accepted theory that inflation is entirely the result of the growth of the money supply. Meltzer is currently working on the second volume of his History of the Federal Reserve.
* Joshua Muravchik is a resident scholar. He researches Middle East politics, democracy, neoconservatism and the history of socialism.
* Charles Murray, an influential policy writer and a researcher, is the W.H. Brady Scholar in Culture and Freedom. He is best known as the co-author of the controversial 1994 book, The Bell Curve.
* Michael Novak is the George Frederick Jewett Scholar in Religion, Philosophy and Public Policy and Director of Social and Political Studies at the institute. He has written extensively about the role of faith in government.
* Norman Ornstein has been a Congressional analyst and political commentator for more than thirty five years.
* Richard Perle served on the United States Defense Policy Board and is a former Assistant Secretary of Defense.
* Sally Satel is a psychiatrist and author of PC, M.D.: How Political Correctness is Corrupting Medicine.
* Christina Hoff Sommers is a critic of the feminist movement. She is the author of Who Stole Feminism and The War Against Boys.
* Fred Thompson, Television and film actor, currently appearing on the television show Law & Order, former U.S. Senator, is a visiting fellow.
* Ben Wattenberg, a speechwriter for President Lyndon B. Johnson, is a senior fellow.
* John Yoo, formerly of the Office of Legal Counsel, and a professor at Boalt Hall, is a visiting scholar.
AEI Funders
* The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc.
* Castle Rock Foundation
* Coors Brewing Company
* Earhart Foundation
* ExxonMobil
* JM Foundation
* Microsoft Corporation [1]
* Philip M. McKenna Foundation, Inc.
* John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
* Rockefeller Brothers Fund[14]
* Sarah Scaife Foundation
* Scaife Family Foundation
* Smith Richardson Foundation
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Marcianne,Thanks for your kind words.I may email you after all.I really appreciate the kindness.Thanks again.I am gonna go now.Bye
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Jpj,AKA SARA.You have misunderstood me and I am better off on my own.I am true blue and just sick of the merry go round here.If you were true blue you would just answer my questions like Sane did without the insults.
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delutional.
two rabid twins.
alex jones staff is "nut"s?
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I understand totally. I have been here for many months, and am now part of a group of regulars that e-mail each other with special links.
We have never seen this kind of invasion. And that is clearly what it is.
I think your idea for your dvd is good. Don't be scared to pass them out. Once you do it a couple of times you get used to telling people straight out. Grocery clerks. Gas station attendants. Etc. People are hungry for truth.
There was an article published in March in a porn magazine about 9/11. So I went in the party store and showed it to the owner and told him to read the article. He had no idea.
You will be fine girl.
Don't allow the words from ignorant people get to you!
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I say true blue meaning I am not someone trying to cause trouble and I am on the real patriots side.I know I am paranoid of everyone but I am sure you can understand,I am not used to this stuff and trying to filter out good and bad is difficult.
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why don't you stalk sara?
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Why don't you shut the fck up?
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fck?
hardly, sis, you could not give your puss
away.
its used.
clap.
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To JpJ ,I have only been here a few weeks and I do not understand everything and someone said to me that they thought that this was a white supremasy site.I know it is about 911 and the evil stuff,however with Sara and her multiple post names and her obvious hate of mexicans ,it made me wonder.
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yup, that'd target ya.. it isnt a white supremist site, sara dont hate mexicans either, she hates reconquista, she hates la raza.. big differences.
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Impeachy I think you had a valid question that I am sure many who do not post have, thus the elaborate answer. However you seem to be very mysterious with your questions and statements (like what is "True Blue?"). This can leave posters confused, annoyed, or (due to all the BS on the blogs) threatened. We then react with either fight or flight. I am just as guilty of it (as my baseless tantrums with ak yesterday proves).
We have gone from land of the free to land of the paranoid.
I believe that, although the surface of this site may lead people to believe that it creates more paranoia, it does the opposite. By revealing the causes and direction of this mass paranoia creating conspiracy, we can have some sanity in a deliberately manipulated insane world.
Thus, my nick 
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Bill Maher talks about PNAC. This isn't too bad. But he doesn't talk about False Flag Terror. This is so key right now.
http://digg.com/
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JPJ YOU ARE SARA AS YOU TYPE LIKE HER.SO WHY DON'T YOU SHUT THE FCK UP.Gabe cusses alot and you say nothing to him....hummmmm-now I am being sucked into your little world again.
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same school of profanity?
two nuts.
two peas in a pod.
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Bush fatigue'
what a stupid theory by Bush father man these people will never understand. Wether it is Bush, Clinton or whoever Big brother Illuminatti decide to put there, it is always be the same just a different face. PEOPLE ARE FED UP of all you evil rich elites who want to control this planet. That is what it is all about. Sending men and woman to war to kill innocent abroad, that is criminal and the criminals eventually will be brought to justice. More and More soldiers will wake up the the evil they are part of and will realise it is time for desertion and join the light for what is right PEACE and LOVE.
You have been created to be loving and not killers and war people to kill humanity.
May the light switch on in your brains before this world goes any further.
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Marcianne Hi ,I would email you but I am scared to email anyone because I never know anymore who to trust.I like you alot as you seem sensible but forgive me that I cannot email anyone.I am sorry.While I got you on though I wanted to know if you think it is dumb if I put the V for vendetta movie trailor on in the begining of the loose change tapes and the terrostorm tapes before I give them out.I put it on hold till I got some more advice from the people here.
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Ok it is obvious I am the new target-see ya
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To JpJ ,I have only been here a few weeks and I do not understand everything and someone said to me that they thought that this was a white supremasy site.I know it is about 911 and the evil stuff,however with Sara and her multiple post names and her obvious hate of mexicans ,it made me wonder.
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your a target alright.
thats an understatement.
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Jpj,AKA SARA.You have misunderstood me and I am better off on my own.I am true blue and just sick of the merry go round here.If you were true blue you would just answer my questions like Sane did without the insults.
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Ok it is obvious I am the new target-see ya
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Impeachy. Don't let these rude posters get you down. E-mail me please. Address below.
I want to hear about your activism.
Peace,
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George McGovern: Cheney is wrong about me, wrong about war
The 1972 presidential nominee strikes back at the vice president for comparing today's Democrats to the McGovern platform.
By George S. McGovern, GEORGE S. MCGOVERN, a former U.S. senator from South Dakota, was the Democratic nominee for president in 1972.
April 24, 2007
t is my firm belief that the Cheney-Bush team has committed offenses that are worse than those that drove Nixon, Vice President Spiro Agnew and Atty. Gen. John Mitchell from office after 1972. Indeed, as their repeated violations of the Constitution and federal statutes, as well as their repudiation of international law, come under increased consideration, I expect to see Cheney and Bush forced to resign their offices before 2008 is over.
Aside from a growing list of impeachable offenses, the vice president has demonstrated his ignorance of foreign policy by attacking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for visiting Syria. Apparently he thinks it is wrong to visit important Middle East states that sometimes disagree with us. Isn't it generally agreed that Nixon's greatest achievement was talking to the Chinese Communist leaders, which opened the door to that nation? And wasn't President Reagan's greatest achievement talking with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev until the two men worked out an end to the Cold War? Does Cheney believe that it's better to go to war rather than talk with countries with which we have differences?
We, of course, already know that when Cheney endorses a war, he exempts himself from participation. On second thought, maybe it's wise to keep Cheney off the battlefield — he might end up shooting his comrades rather than the enemy.
On a more serious note, instead of listening to the foolishness of the neoconservative ideologues, the Cheney-Bush team might better heed the words of a real conservative, Edmund Burke: "A conscientious man would be cautious how he dealt in blood."
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Sane was asking a valid question.
Now your a target?
Calling the "staff" at Alex Jones nuts.
when you leave we can smell the "sulfer/ash as you gone.
Vententa against Alex?
sensative today?
why don't you stalk sara?
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The soon to be plummeting economy is now hitting elite websites:
http://www.2000wave.com/article....sp?
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It will come as no surprise to this audience that there are a few things that worry me. I often write about problems in the markets. Subprime mortgage contagion, earnings shortfalls, a slowdown in consumer spending are all on my worry list.
But I am not just your average amateur worrier. I am a professional worrier. I get paid to worry. For a professional, worrying is an art form. The amateur worrier spends way too much time worrying about events that are likely to happen. A true professional worries about the unlikely events that create the most problems. It is the things we are not worried about which can cause us the most harm.
For instance, I am not worried that the subprime mortgage debacle might cause a recession. I think it will bring us a garden-variety recession. I have lived through five recessions, a few market crashes, and other economic upheavals in my adult life and expect to live through that many more problems in the future. My portfolio and business are built to withstand a recession or two, so I don't worry about it.
What worries me about the problems in the mortgage market is the possibility, however small, that we will see a credit liquidity crunch that will bring about more than a simple recession. I think it unlikely, but I can see a path that makes it possible. The capital ratio at US banks is at its lowest level since 2001, and with more losses coming from mortgage and consumer lending, it is possible that banks will tighten up lending practices. We are already seeing some anecdotal evidence of tighter lending standards and a reduction in consumer lending. Enough to throw us into a serious recession? While unlikely, it is something to pay attention to, because that would change things and maybe require some portfolio adjustments, as well as bring new opportunities.
In what may seem like a contradiction, a professional worrier must be an optimist. Spending too much of your time worrying can lead to inaction and not getting into the fray. There are two types of people who lose in today's markets. First, there are those who are pessimists and do not get into any investments at all, staying in cash. That is a strategy that is guaranteed to lose you buying power, as inflation and taxes eat into your portfolio.
Second, there are the unabashed bulls that chase the latest investment fad, often when it is coming to an end. $90 billion dollars went into mutual funds in January of 2000. I am told that 80% went into Janus funds, some of which went down by 75% or more. Sometimes they do ring a bell.
The correct position is cautious optimism. At the risk of repeating myself, the way to be in the top 10% of all investors in 2017 is to simply be above average each and every year for the next ten years. That is harder than it sounds. Many investors create portfolios based on historical data that is unlikely to repeat, or choose investments which may well be outstanding in most years but have some awful years as well. The enemy of compounding is losing. You can and should be cautious, but you need to be in the game if you are going to be above average.
Past Performance Predicts Future Disaster
I was at Rob Arnott's Advisory Panel meeting last week, coincidentally here in La Jolla. I had the great pleasure of listening to Professor Harry Markowitz (who developed Modern Portfolio Theory and got the Nobel Prize for it) comment at length on the presentations. He told one story that I have to share with you, as it illustrates quite well the problems faced by professional worriers.
It seems his son is an attorney (of whom Harry was clearly quite proud) and was defending an interesting client. The case involved the client, who had lost $100 million for a group of Indian tribes, and they were upset. However, they weren't quite the innocents. It seems they were not satisfied with typical returns and wanted to make a little more. They specifically instructed the money manager to invest in loans which paid 22%. Basically, these were loans to resorts and vacation spots. The manager, in an effort to protect the principle, diversified the loan portfolio by making lots of loans, thus trying to insulate the portfolio from the problem of any one or two loans going bad. 22% a year can make up a lot of losses if you can keep the losses small.
What happens, however, if a majority of the loans go bad all at once? That would clearly be a bad thing, but how could that happen? Past performance of the loans suggested that the concept was sound. However, a bad thing did happen as vacation travel plummeted after 9/11 and the follow-on recessions. Evidently, projects were cancelled or halted and the tribes who thought they were diversified against risk found they were not. Whether it was property in the US, the Caribbean, or wherever, they all were hurt in the aftermath.
Interestingly, there were five different expert witnesses (both for the defense and the tribes) that testified on diversification and modern portfolio theory. Evidently all were aware of the irony of being questioned by the son of the developer of the theory.
Long Term Capital Management is another case in point. The Nobel laureates associated with that firm had run extensive risk analysis on all the historical data. These were not wild gunslingers. They were clearly convinced that they had covered the risks.
And they had covered all the risks that were in the historical databases. However, there was one piece of data that was not in the historical numbers, and that was the effect of Long Term Capital itself. LTCM became the market and the connection between markets that had never shown any correlation. As they had to sell seemingly unconnected investments to meet margin calls, the pressure on all of the markets ratcheted up simultaneously. And the more they had to sell, the worse it got.
The same thing with Amaranth last fall. They had PhDs running around doing analysis on risk, based on historical data, but someone forgot to factor in what it means when you become such a large part of a relatively small natural gas market that you can no longer meaningfully hedge or exit a losing position. They were averaging down into a losing trade, which is nearly always a mistake, but their market activities were of such size they distorted the market signals. Before they realized, they were getting margin calls, and the size of their own trades to raise cash was making the market move against them.
Interestingly, the trader (Brian Hunter) and his team that lost $6 billion at Amaranth are now raising money for a new fund. According to people who have read their material, there is a great deal of emphasis on risk control. Imagine that. How special. Even more amazing is that he has reportedly gotten commitments for several hundred million dollars. As an aside, you will not see that fund on any platform offered by myself or my partners. Sometimes the best risk control is to avoid it altogether.
A few years ago, I took the due diligence questionnaires for hedge funds from a number of firms (I think it was approaching ten) that analyze hedge funds, and then worked through them to compare the various documents. They all had different sets of questions. After a while I think I spotted a pattern. You could see that the differences were basically in things that had probably caused problems for the firm. They added a series of questions that were designed to make sure they never had those problems again.
I can tell you that my analysis has more depth to it than five or ten years ago, or even a few years ago. Every time there is a problem, and you hope it is the other guy and not you having it, a new set of questions appears to try and deal with that risk in the future. And you can make book on the fact that in five years the questionnaires for fund managers will have even more questions. It is always the questions that you don't ask, the data that you didn't know about, that is the problem.
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I am not familiar with Kip?
But this is true MSM/Trade Journals and some new clever ones:
Elevator news/Subway/taxi cab news/etc.
Much of these cater to elites and pump them with bullshit to either keep them in their bubble or convince them that they are the crazy ones if they think differently.
The Internet seems to be an easy way to get real info and to communicate about non-elite opinions.
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I hear you. If you ever want to talk off board,
marcianne_98@sbcglobal.net
Goes for you impeachy.
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Good News:
Huge investigation into Rove revealed
Bad News:
Kucinich delays Cheney impeachment (I am liking him less and less)
Rawstory.com
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Americans DO NOT get the real story in Americas main stream media.
james | 04.24.07 - 11:00 am | #
We use to call it the the one eyed monster.Its not the TV its the News Media. There bought and paid for. There part of the ol Kip, ya know.
though there are some coming forward, Like Rosie, or C.Sheen, celeb types. when you think about it there is but a few methods of getting information to the people, The tube and the journals. The average John Q. that is. Who pulls the string on this information. Control does.
Hey Joe, they have been lulling the pople into a state of control for decades. Their sources do not stop with media control.
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To JpJ ,I have only been here a few weeks and I do not understand everything and someone said to me that they thought that this was a white supremasy site.I know it is about 911 and the evil stuff,however with Sara and her multiple post names and her obvious hate of mexicans ,it made me wonder.
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I have seen much evidence of this being a site in search of truth and a communication tool to inform us of our dwindling freedoms.
I also have seen evidence that these efforts have systematically blockaded by many that try to divert the conversation to a white supremecy conversation. Look back at some of the statements, the comments are usually obvious and come out of nowhere.
This is an attempt (like has been done with many 911 truth sites) to change the direction to one that will polarize the public. It is a rudimentary way of dividing the truth movement.
The comments show up in different ways on different sites, I have posted the examples a few times, but here it is for your amusement (particular to the recent VT massacre and the propaganda aftermath thwarting us from the truth):
Liberal Blogs:
-stop the racism against asians
-gun control is important
-stop stalkers who endanger women's rights
-this is not about immigration guys
-how can we protect our kids from monsters
Conservative blogs (just about the opposite):
-They are trying to take our guns, if those kids had guns they would be alive
-Women always make men crazy
-He was connected to islamic messages
-We have to close the borders
-He looks like a killer, those students were pussies, I woulda taken him out
Conspiracy blogs:
-This is connected to a zionist conspiracy
-He was a shape shifting alien from the planet omfgtheybelvme
-This all has to do with numerology, look at the numbers 4-16-2007 = 911
-If you don't stop talking about this and start talking about 911-I'm leaving
-Only the scriptures will save us, do nothing for Jesus will save all
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Hi Sane,
Yes, I've seen the DU babies. Heartbreaking stuff and they still claim that DU is safe.
Bush, Blair, Cheney = War criminals.
This is another thing for the US/UK soldiers to consider. How can they allow their governments to continue to expose them to these things?
Thanks again for the info!
Best regards, Anthony
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re The Amazing Kretzkin
Dont worry too much about Professor Jones, actually he is the one who says "I wanna know"
Besides that he is a big boy and can certainly take care of himself. He is one of the founders of the scholar movement and he has recieved both threats and attempts of bribes for what he has done. Steven Jones may look soft but he must be hard as nails considering what he has done so far.
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Agreed. But it was still embarassing and disrepectful. You do not expect that treatment from people you trust. It stings a little more when you trust someone. But, yeah, he'll get over it. He took it in stride. My point is that it should not have been done to him. Without him and his work, all we would have is "circumstancial evidence" which doesn't hold up in court very well.
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Ok it is obvious I am the new target-see ya
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To JpJ ,I have only been here a few weeks and I do not understand everything and someone said to me that they thought that this was a white supremasy site.I know it is about 911 and the evil stuff,however with Sara and her multiple post names and her obvious hate of mexicans ,it made me wonder.
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Sane.which part?
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 11:04 am | #
all of it
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I just read some stuff about the horrific levels of cancer in Iraq. I pray for all of the victims of this carnage and an end to tyranny.
I've started following the US news very closely, because whether for good or evil, the USA is leading the way into the future for all of us on this planet.
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The cancer is mostly due to the unprecedented amount of DU everywhere. Mortality rate is over 10x what it should be and the poisoning travels through sperm to the unborn. The demonic looking babies it produces is shocking. over 500K US soldiers from Gulf War I have symptoms and over 1 million from this war are expected to have worse cases as this war is lasting almost 4 years longer than the last one.
To find out more, go here:
http://masters-of-war.org/
deathc...thculture2.html
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Joe / James,
I stopped watching TV about 3 years ago. We have a TV, but zero reception, so we just watch videos and DVDs (mainly for my 3 little ones).
I've also reached the point where I only touch the mainstream media (newspapers, websites) to find out what lies they're telling. Fortunately any good stuff gets filtered out by people on sites like PrisonPlanet.
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Also I have another Question for the staff here.Is this a white supremaisy site?Sorry about the spelling.
And one more question if the media is controlled,which I believe it is.Then how come they have not stopped the movie makers?
Alright one last question-Could it be and I hate to sound like CR on here but could they be letting this info slpi out to the public as to start a revolution to kill more people?This shit is so confusing.
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Your lieing. You been here a long time.
why act lame?
slow down.
you called the alex jones radio show...........
now the staff is nuts(in your opinion)
what state do you live in?
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Sane.which part?
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To JpJ ,Hey I was only refering to one person on here.You don't have to be so jumpy.I did not say the whole staff.Sorry
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Hi Chris,
Thanks for the reply.
Soon after George W. proclaimed the Iraq War to be won, I flew to Chicago on a business trip. I sat next to a young American soldier, who was very polite, very decent and very scared. What he was most scared of was what to do when he left the army. We didn't talk about his experiences in Iraq, but it was clear that he had experienced things that disturbed him.
Yet still he was most concerned about his future. I think what he most needed was a shoulder to lean on, and maybe to cry on. I tried to be positive and encourage him and I like to think that he appreciated it.
As you write, the individual men and women will react in different ways to their wartime experiences. I hope that as many as possible will come to realize that they have been betrayed and manipulated. I also hope that as many as possible will find the strength to maintain/regain their humanity and join the struggle for truth and justice.
I just read some stuff about the horrific levels of cancer in Iraq. I pray for all of the victims of this carnage and an end to tyranny.
I've started following the US news very closely, because whether for good or evil, the USA is leading the way into the future for all of us on this planet.
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In my opinion, NO-ONE should watch TV.
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I agree Joe.
I haven't watched TV in a long time.
I have one of course, I just don't turn it on.
I have even canceled my cable TV connection. Screw COX.
I haven't watched the main stream media news in so long I actually could not tell you the last time I did. I don't do news papers for anything but local news.
And you know what? I feel better about myself and my ability to find the real news on the Web.
Thanks to Alex and the real Journalist that can only get their reports published on the Web.
I have also learned that to get the real news, I have to get my news from other countries.
Americans DO NOT get the real story in Americas main stream media.
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Wolf Yeah I am still kicking.Just had to get away from the post as some of the staff here is beyond nuts.I will leave the name out.We pretty much know who I am talking about.I will ignore this being.
IMPEACHY | 04.24.07 - 10:38 am
calling the "staff" nuts dont help.
Maybe your nuts.
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What the hell are you talking about???
Be direct
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Also I have another Question for the staff here.Is this a white supremaisy site?Sorry about the spelling.
And one more question if the media is controlled,which I believe it is.Then how come they have not stopped the movie makers?
Alright one last question-Could it be and I hate to sound like CR on here but could they be letting this info slpi out to the public as to start a revolution to kill more people?This shit is so confusing.
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MSNBC
Jessica Lynch exposing lies
WATCH IT
Oh and Foc-commercials
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"Ahmadinejad offers to have direct talks with Bush"
HAH!!!!
I'm laughing so hard I'm CRYING!!!
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T.V.sucks.
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"Children under three 'should not watch TV'"
In my opinion, NO-ONE should watch TV.
It's the world's greatest killer of time, dispenser of mis-information (and 9/11 truthers wonder why it is people believe the hyped up "official" story), and agent of social programming.
In short, TV is what's wrong with the world today. It is the predecessor to George Orwell's "telescreen." It produces tender, idiotic and docile, couch potatoes. TV has desensitized the population, so now no-one knows what's "real" and what's Hollywood anymore.
Wouldn't the world be a better place if people actually got up and did research instead of rely on TV all day?
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ak48, you seen this:
This program presents the facts about these amazing discoveries and includes stunning film footage of the remarkable flight maneuvers of these mysterious alien spacecraft secretly recorded during test flights
http://video.google.com/videopla...976918772940&
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CNN/CSAPN3
Pat Tillman's brother exposes the lies of the Iraq war to the House of Representatives!!!
WATCH IT
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Wolf Yeah I am still kicking.Just had to get away from the post as some of the staff here is beyond nuts.I will leave the name out.We pretty much know who I am talking about.I will ignore this being.
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he must be hard as nails considering what he has done so far.
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He does seem to have an impenatrable shield from decades of integrity. When the shills attack, after a few minutes they are usually left dumbfounded as to why they even fought. The Glenn Beck interview was precious. Jones is a great man.
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Good thing about the ban on aspartame (http://aspartame.worldwidewarning.net) by Sainsbury's but they are replacing it with Sucralose, also known as Splenda (http://splenda.worldwidewarning.net) which is certainly not a huge improvement at all. Puzzling to say the least. Sucralose "made from sugar" is quite deceptive.
And why has the manufacturer of Sucralose/Splenda registered a lot of domains like splendakills.com and victimsofsplenda.com?
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Marcianne,Hi I am sorry it took me so long to get back with you.I put my neighborhood awakening on hold till I get your opinion.I put parts of V for Vendetta trailor on the first part of terrorstorm and loose change.Do you think that is unwise?All opinions welcome.
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It's clear that they are fighting an illegal war in Iraq for a corrupt bunch of self-satisfying criminal leaders (or is there anyone who doesn't think that is clear?).
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They have been lied to and they know it, the majority that is. The career men (lifers)use this as a ladder to climb to higher rank.
We are all human beings, be it military or not, trapped in a situation wehre we do not have a voice, the goverment has walled us off. They have by insidious methods created a regime intent on domination.
The troops, if they do not get zaped, or wounded, crippled, or paralized, or mentaly ill, will definetly have an attitude. Some will let their fear and hatred overwhelm them and go into a place we refered to as kill crazy. Some will never be able to accept the misery and hold onto the old Patriotic chore syndrome to cope with their memories. Unfortunetly there will be suicides among those in the zone and those who return.
Power, has allways fed off poverty, I suspect that many young men joined for this very reason, no hope, poverty and no vision of a future. Too, many are young men who have no idea whats going on, they join on a whim, or a clever recruiter promising the world to them, remember most there have just left behind puberty, they truly dont know what the situation is. They do now. If these Elites, master puppeteers are not imprisoned, for mass murder, high treason, then we are in for more trouble than i care to think about.
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re The Amazing Kretzkin
Dont worry too much about Professor Jones, actually he is the one who says "I wanna know" 
Besides that he is a big boy and can certainly take care of himself. He is one of the founders of the scholar movement and he has recieved both threats and attempts of bribes for what he has done. Steven Jones may look soft but he must be hard as nails considering what he has done so far.
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sara---do the words, malleus maleficarum, have any meaning for you?
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When they let you out of the ward, and use the State computer. Let me know what your point it.
If you think the Pope was making "witches" repent, I would say to the Catholic Church stop molesting childrem, you demonic Priests. Your all sickos.
Plus the hesanic females who post pictures of their children on the internet for bait(I am not saying who, only a SLUT gives her private e-mails publicly to strangers. Its a con.
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My Bad guys yesterday I said Rosie was gonna have Rupurt Murdock on her show,I guess I read it wrong she had to introduce him at some other event.It still made her sick.
On another note I sure hope all these Impeachment protest and the Kucinich filings work.I ain't holding my breath though.They seem to be untouchable.
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Re The Evidence Is In
In part 8, about 5:30 in, Professor Jones begins to relay his story about being put on leave from BYU, and....
Is that Alex cutting him off, saying "I don't want to know. I don't care. I wanna know what's going on..."
If so, or whoever it was is an egotistical fuckwad! Obviously what Jones was going to say was important to him. About his struggle and his sacrifice. To cut him off, to blow off his heroism in this.... whoever said that to him is a grade A asshole, period. He is not just some fucking puppet to be used for whatever purpose and then tossed aside when done. He is a human being with feelings. And the people in the audience clapping? Assholes!
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RE:Steven Jones Answers Questions About His Research In a Reply to 'Screw Loose Change'
Why are all of the debunkers links down?
They say look here but their links are all dead, at least for my computer.
And I do have the highest speed connection money can get me.
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I do not want to live in a society in which the machines talk to me. It is already happening and it drives me nuts, i loathe the feeling it gives me. Inanimate metal contraptions greeting me and giving me instructions in a friendly human voice. I don't want machines talking to me. It's hideous and makes me want to go north to a place where the machines are mute and the only ones that talk to me are my nieghbors(not the other way around).
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sara---do the words, malleus maleficarum, have any meaning for you?
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The book is divided into three sections, each of which raises specific questions and purports to answer them through opposing arguments. There is little original material in the book; it is mainly a codification of existing beliefs and practices with substantial parts taken from earlier works such as Nicolau Aymerich's Directorium Inquisitorum (1376), or Johannes Nider's Formicarius (1435).
Part I seeks to prove that witchcraft or sorcery existed. It details how the Devil and his followers, witches, perpetrate a variety of evils with “the permission of the Almighty God”. Rather than explaining this as punishment, as many church authorities of the time did, the authors of this book claim that God permits the acts so that the Devil might not gain unlimited power and destroy the world. Another viewpoint states that god allows evil to occur, because without the potential for evil, there would not be potential for good.
Part of this section explains why women, by their weaker nature and inferior intellect, were supposedly naturally more prone to the lure of Satan than men. The book title itself contains the word maleficarum, the female form of the noun, and the writers (incorrectly) declare that the word femina (woman) is a derivation of fe+minus, faithless.
Part II of the Malleus Maleficarum describes the actual forms of witchcraft. This section details how witches cast spells and how their actions can be prevented or remedied. Strong emphasis is given to the Devil’s Pact and the existence of witches is presented as fact. Many of the book’s reports of spells, pacts, sacrifice, and copulation with the Devil were gained from inquisitions performed by Sprenger and Kramer.
Part III details the methods for detecting, trying, and sentencing or destroying witches. Torture in the detection of witches is dealt with as a matter-of-course; if the accused witch did not voluntarily confess their guilt, torture was to be applied as incentive to confess. Judges are instructed to mislead the accused if necessary, promising mercy for confession.
This section also covers how much belief to place in witnesses' testimonies and the need to eliminate malicious accusations, but also states that public rumor is sufficient to bring a person to trial and that too vigorous a defense is evidence that the defender is bewitched. There are rules on how to prevent the authorities becoming bewitched and the reassurance that, as representatives of God, investigators are shielded from all of the witch's powers
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I do not want to live in a society in which the machines talk to me. It is already happening and it drives me nuts, i loathe the feeling it gives me. Inanimate metal contraptions greeting me and giving me instructions in a friendly human voice. I don't want machines talking to me. It's hideous and makes me want to go north to a place where the machines are mute and the only ones that talk to me are my nieghbors(not the other way around).
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I think it's time to practice with the other...............
Michael D. | 04.24.07 - 9:44 am | #
Yeah!!! I second that!!!
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cameras, microphones, and sensors will be beamed to the government in order to "monitor" the robot and "protect" us...
Too lazy to retype the rest of it, though.
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Yeah, one of the main ways we get out of the domestic surveilance laws today is by UK controlling our camera's images and us contolling UKs. Eventually it will all move to Dubai and China. Then the fun will really start.
These guys sit in a vegas command and control type room and monitr us from thousands of miles away. And we thuiing it is useful to stop traffic violations, we are such frickin sheep!
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Just one of the many signs that Yeltsin was not NWO: look at his funeral, not the "Masonic funeral for a god" shit that takes 7 days of coverage to mind fuck us with.
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According to Path. Liars, our fearless leaders, Boss Dick and the Tyrant Bush do fit in the definition. They know they are lying and they are doing it for very specific purposes but believe their purposes are really God's purposes. Nothing worse than a liar and a murderer who thinks he is doing God's will.
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I am about ruffling feathers and spreading fire. And don't ever think God doesn't have a sense of humor. I was a sniper and i lost an eye, ironic isn't it?
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Was that your scope eye or the other?
If your scope eye, I think it's time to practice with the other...............
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The outcome is they could all be centrally controlled and seeing as our armed forces are being systematically destroyed, no one will be around to defend us.
Dubai owns our ports, Chinese manufacturing goes unchecked, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Yeah, haloscan cut off the end of my post, I was saying essentially the same thing.
My response to the last quote in my post was "and so do humans. (make a wrong decision and people get hurt."
Then I said, the knee-jerk reaction will be that the robots cameras, microphones, and sensors will be beamed to the government in order to "monitor" the robot and "protect" us...
Too lazy to retype the rest of it, though.
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>>"The outcome could be that when given a choice the robot could make the wrong decision and someone gets hurt. They can go wrong just like a motor car can.
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The outcome is they could all be centrally controlled and seeing as our armed forces are being systematically destroyed, no one will be around to defend us.
Dubai owns our ports, Chinese manufacturing goes unchecked, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I was thinking of ancient history, Troy when the big fake horse, was filled with those soldiers and then I think what if Mexico decided to invade the United States, and fill the trucks with mexican soldiers, and they have these cells all over, and one day, we wake up, and Mexico has declared war with the help of Alberto Gonzales, useing State computers, to share with Mexico(I mean he gives the passwords)to mexico, and they invade?
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RE: Pathological liars---Really good post, very insightful. But are you saying that Prisonplanet is a lying website or that the comments page is full of liars? Human imagination is the second most powerful force in existence, only truth is more powerful. TV and movies are vicarious experiences that can cause schizophrenia and psycho-pathological behavior. Add to that strong, psycho-active drugs(both legal and illegal) and harmful inorganic metals and chemicals in our air, water and food, it is a wonder that we are not all more crazy than we are.
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Pathological Liars
The popular stereotype of a pathological liar-- a chronic liar, deceiver, who lies to get out of things, or into things; who tries to con you into something, or control you; who cheats on you and then denies it, makes up stories about where he was-- all this is wrong. It's malingering, but it isn't pathological lying. He's a tool, but he's not psychiatric.
Pathological lying was originally defined as complex lies which are internally consistent, that may drag on for years and-- and this is the key point-- do not have an obvious purpose or gain. They are not lies told to self-aggrandize, or minimize guilt. They're not trying to con you into or out of anything. They're just making crap up.
The lies are unplanned, spontaneous. Once told, they generally stick (for years)-- but it's fair to say the pathological liar doesn't know what he's going to say until he says it. He is a bullshit artist who makes it up as he goes along, and who then believes his own crap.
The important question here is this: does the pathological liar know he is lying? Or does he believe his stories? Is he lying, or is he delusional?
The answer is: both. Sort of.
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Dude thanks for wrining all of this, now we can repost it on other sites to show more about the psychology behind our appointed leaders.
Sweeeeet. Can you give us more ramblings to better communicate the details of the psychosis our Pres and VP currently suffer from, that would be really generous of you.
I am thanking you in advance for your continued service to this great country 
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The economy is so screwed up, you need to shop at thrift stores and dollar stores, and garage sale and you will find new items.
The homes in Los Angeles are outrages, and the buisnesses rents.
Like a small store with a buisness is like $6,000.00 a month. George Bush has bankrupted the nation. He has been allowed by this congress and Seenate to do this, so they are to blame also.
It is a corrupt government and the Communists look from across the seas and laugh. Maybe Mexico will invade, since they have Alberto Gonzales, in office, who wont quit, since hes an agent for Mexico. Mexico is communist.
E-bay is a joke.
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Good point, here is an audio of a pathological liar taken just yesterday and my homepage shows a picture of the same guy, go figure.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/
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Chris Jones: Hi Chris, You wrote, yesterday I think, asking for feedback about your UFO experience.
While I've never experienced anything like you describe, it just doesn't make sense to me to believe that we're the only ones in the Universe. And if we can make such rapid technological progress, how far advanced could other civilizations be?
And your UFO sounds more like the alien variety, rather than a US government model!
I haven't seen a UFO, but I have witnessed things that I could not explain and most people would never believe. Therefore, I am open to other people's experiences, taking care, of course, to listen to my inner voice.
You write constructive posts and to me you sound like a very convincing witness. Thanks for sharing this with us!
Anthony
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Pathological Liars
The popular stereotype of a pathological liar-- a chronic liar, deceiver, who lies to get out of things, or into things; who tries to con you into something, or control you; who cheats on you and then denies it, makes up stories about where he was-- all this is wrong. It's malingering, but it isn't pathological lying. He's a tool, but he's not psychiatric.
Pathological lying was originally defined as complex lies which are internally consistent, that may drag on for years and-- and this is the key point-- do not have an obvious purpose or gain. They are not lies told to self-aggrandize, or minimize guilt. They're not trying to con you into or out of anything. They're just making crap up.
The lies are unplanned, spontaneous. Once told, they generally stick (for years)-- but it's fair to say the pathological liar doesn't know what he's going to say until he says it. He is a bullshit artist who makes it up as he goes along, and who then believes his own crap.
The important question here is this: does the pathological liar know he is lying? Or does he believe his stories? Is he lying, or is he delusional?
The answer is: both. Sort of.
He is not delusional, but he hovers in that half-world of the narcissist (oh, there's that tie-in), where the lies are believed until he gets caught, but then-- and this is the move that only a few can pull off-- he acknowledges that the "facts" are lies, but not the essence, the spirit. "Ok, look, I'm not really in the CIA." But in his mind, he knows that if conditions were right-- if something big went down-- he could be exactly like a CIA agent, and that's close enough. If he saw a suicide bomber, he'd be able to movie- kung fu him, grab the Sig Sauer and squeeze off a few rounds. He also knows which wire to clip. How does he know? Because he's in the CIA.
If aliens actually did come and attack us, he knows he would actually be able to fly a spaceship.
Pathological lying is not "confabulation." In both cases, lies are told spontaneously and freely, without clear intent, purpose, or gain-- except that in confabulation, the reason the person lies is to fill in the deficits in his memory; he can't remember what actually happened. Hence confabulation is associated with dementia ("when I was 18 I went to Paris with my unit and I saw... 8 puppies get eaten by Chamberlain and de Gaulle-- hand to God I saw it"), and especially with alcoholic dementia/hallucinosis ("I don't know what happened to me-- six guys jumped me... yeah... six... Canadian guys, I think they were Satanists, no, wait, Stalinists, yeah, that's right, and they could read my mind...")
My take is that pathological lying is a disorder of identity; the person imagines for himself an separate identity, and then fantasizes experiences and events which may be otherwise ordinary and predictable-- he went to the museum-- but in his mind happen only to "that" person. The lies hold the clues to that identity, but they may not be obvious. For example, maybe the part of the lie that's important isn't that he saw a guy rob the gift shop and get arrested, but that he was at the museum by himself-- the point is that he imagines himself a loner, or an artsy type, etc. Or maybe he's sees himself living in a world where crimes happen frequently. And maybe he thinks he's a superhero.
The pathological liar doesn't place much value in experience; it's all in identification. He doesn't need to be in the military to know exactly what it's like, because he's watched enough war movies (e.g. one) or read Tom Clancy. (Aside: that's the huge appeal of Clancy and Crichton-- enough detail to make you think you know the inner workings of the professions they describe.) It's wrong to dismiss the lies as valueless; like Zelig, these people do have an intuitive grasp of the relevant thought process, emotions, affects, and even consequences of the experiences they describe. They're just made up. So when he gets caught in his lie, he secretly blames the other person for not appreciating that whether it's a lie or not is trivial, irrelevant; it still affected him just the same.
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Does this sound like PrisonPla |
04.24.07 - 9:25 am | #
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>>"The outcome could be that when given a choice the robot could make the wrong decision and someone gets hurt. They can go wrong just like a motor car can.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.24.07 - 9:05 am | #
The outcome is they could all be centrally controlled and seeing as our armed forces are being systematically destroyed, no one will be around to defend us.
Dubai owns our ports, Chinese manufacturing goes unchecked, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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The truth of the matter is that "Capitalism" can only work if there are people dumb enough to screw for cheap labor, and people dumb enough to pay more than the product is actually worth.
(Did you know that the beans for the coffee sold at Starbucks is bought as low as $0.01 a pound from foreign coffee producing companies? Ever wonder what your $5.00 REALLY pays for when you get that "tall" cup of coffee?)
Nothing wrong with wanting more bang for your buck, but how low are we willing to go to make the most profit for the lowest cost? People need to decide if they want a "free China," "All-American goods," or that Nike shoe more.
Till then, the screwing continues.
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Now it capitalisum, versus communist and you choose it. Brew your own coffee, cortez, I think you hate your own existence.
Your boss maybe. It works fine, I go to Mcdonalds. Cheap labor?
Why is $7.00 an hour cheap? Cal-Trans workers make big bucks your a COMMUNIST.
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Yeltsin as a champion of democracy, nothing could be further from the truth. He should have been arraigned on capital charges with his mates in the tanks, as a traitor. No to vivisection.
Fard El Kalb, The Destroyer | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 4:33 am | #
Yeltsin was truly a couageous leader, the likes of which we desperately need today. If we had a similar leader instead of Poppy Bush at the time, none of this shit happening now would be going on.
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oneyedvet: I'm English, living in Germany, and I wondered how you (or others here) guage the feeling in the US military (serving and vets, regulars and reserves)?
It's clear that they are fighting an illegal war in Iraq for a corrupt bunch of self-satisfying criminal leaders (or is there anyone who doesn't think that is clear?).
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re: Are we safe from robots that can think for themselves?
Yeah, like they didn't say THAT 15 years ago! We were supposed have domestic robots in the home 10 years ago.
>>"The outcome could be that when given a choice the robot could make the wrong decision and someone gets hurt. They can go wrong just like a motor car can.
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I am about ruffling feathers and spreading fire. And don't ever think God doesn't have a sense of humor. I was a sniper and i lost an eye, ironic isn't it?
oneyedvet | 04.24.07 - 4:30 am | #
-Hi. niceto hear ya, what is true patriot, now thats a good one. How about citizens who get off the butts and say something,it is their country, they have just handed it over to the Elite becasue its so much easier.
Remember in the 70's, people did not realy get riled up untill the body count hit about 40,000 or so, recession started, there was nightly news on the action going on, protesters were geting news time,colleges proffesors were courageous enough to tell the alumni the truth, whistle blowers got headlines like Elsberg, they simply could not walk away from the truth and run back into their bubbles. Brother there are so many aspects to this era that are different, Im probbly wrong but the hangover I see is that if one speaks out, demands the truth ,hes is written of as a rabble rouser, or subervisive. I suppose to some degree it is a rerun of the Nam era, but their methods this time are pointed to absolute control. The takedown of America. This gang of bloodsuckers have been planning this for decades. I rambling, sorry, but i wanted ya to know i liked your post.
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"China: The Tyranny Maintained By American Multi-National Corporations and Government"
The truth of the matter is that "Capitalism" can only work if there are people dumb enough to screw for cheap labor, and people dumb enough to pay more than the product is actually worth.
(Did you know that the beans for the coffee sold at Starbucks is bought as low as $0.01 a pound from foreign coffee producing companies? Ever wonder what your $5.00 REALLY pays for when you get that "tall" cup of coffee?)
Nothing wrong with wanting more bang for your buck, but how low are we willing to go to make the most profit for the lowest cost? People need to decide if they want a "free China," "All-American goods," or that Nike shoe more.
Till then, the screwing continues.
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The link to the coleshill mast cancer story doesn't work, but it's worth reading so here are some links. In one street in Coleshill, England, there are 31 cases of cancer.
I work for a High-tech company and I've heard that we have an above average death rate. Recently, a female colleague died of intestinal cancer, aged 34, just 4 weeks after being diagnosed.
http://www.theinquirer.net/defau...x?
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
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04.24.07 - 9:03 am | #
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auto insurance? boy is this site getting trashy!
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04.24.07 - 8:55 am | #
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Gates Presses Russia on Missile Defense Plan
they've already said 'we dont want or need a common missile defense grid with ya'. add this up with to my last post, its simple math how the people in DC are viewed nowadays. my opinion is we have too many domestic enemies to defend against to worry about the foreign ones, and if the domestic enemies are dealt with properly, the foreign ones may eventually have respect for the USA again as a country, not some wannabe 'team america world police'. some might think this view is unpatriotic, gee.. sorry for being aware of the situations as I understand them? eventually many countries will stop differentiating from the good american people and the bad administration, because of the myth that the people can actually effect change and are seen as doing nothing. the people in elected or appointed positions NOT listening to, or representing the will of the people ARE the ones treasonous, and they are also the ones terrorizing us by holding us hostage to the world as they do whatever they please. eventually, the rest of the world will probably do unto us as we do unto the middle east.
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04.24.07 - 8:47 am | #
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"'Impeachment rallies' scheduled across US for Saturday"
The question is, will it work? Or, more importantly, have they ever?
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04.24.07 - 8:36 am | #
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U.S. Knew of China’s Missile Test, but Kept Silent ..
then they have a hissyfit about them actually shooting down one of their own satellites.. DUH !!
china is messed up fascist dictatorship yes, but looks to me like any ideas these NWO creeps have planned in the usage of china will easily backfire. same china they give awards to and proclaim how wonderfully things work there. same china they give all our production to, tearing apart OUR economy to build up china's economy.. china made a statement in picking off one of their own sattelites.. but the so called brains in DC and the corporations just dont understand it.. thanks for strengthening us, thanks for the technologies, thanks for weakening yourselves in the process, thanks for giving us all youre business and deepwater ports too, but to you NWO illuminazi space racing control freaks... eat my shorts!
-its pure greed and stupidity on the part of the administration and corporate structures that is making it all fall apart, 100% treasonous too.
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04.24.07 - 8:12 am | #
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re oneyedvet
Didnt know him personally thank God, but I know of him. His shadow lives on regardless if he´s in hell or not. Man if we could only turn back time and lent the Cristic Institute a hand back in the 80´s... so much of the shit that´s going on today could have been avoided. Isn´t there a way to reverse the pardons and reopen those cases by "popular demand" or something? I know the statute of limitations expired on most of the crimes but damn, treason cant just be ignored...
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Bush fatigue? We have Bush fatigue? No I'd call it lying, evil, corrupt, delusional, shit for brains, fuckwit in the whitehouse fatigue
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P.S---My "signature" to my posts has a double meaning: It means both the foregoing, AND "enough of the false peace, the claims that governments like the U.S. are seeking peace, and ONLY True Peace, real peace, ending the mass-murder, and Divine Peace. [Obviously, I'm not naive, contrary to some peoples' false opinion(s) of me here, and I know the Satanic people who run the world aren't going to let that happen on a secular, temporal, political level, so I realize it is ONLY going to be actually brought about by the ending and remaking of the world by Divine Power, God.
ONLY True Peace,
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04.24.07 - 5:05 am | #
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ak48---did you know Ted Shackley? A wild and crazy guy if ever there was one and plugged into Sandoz's finest. If it wasn't for illegal drugs, the folks at the farm would never get anything done. Good old Ted, i bet he is roasting in hell right now.
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ak48 | 04.24.07 - 4:26 am | #
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(Cont'd): Btw, True Peace, "the Prince of Peace", is Jesus the Christ. I shouldn't think I'd have to spell that out, as most you at least claim to be "Christians"; but obviously I did need to spell it out, because "Ak48" clearly didn't know it at least.
ONLY True Peace,
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04.24.07 - 4:58 am | #
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ak48 | 04.24.07 - 4:26 am | #
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Obviously, to expose the NWO is more important than ANYTHING, and my "ego" isn't important AT ALL. Now, of course, because your whole goal is to paint me as something I'm not, which many people here will eat up, you'll contradict that; which is fine, I don't really care. Any and all people with true discernment will see that you're the one who is talking through his rear end.
I've more than glanced at a good many of your posts; and, like I said, you put on a good show; but you also put on a very bad show because you're one of the main people who has attacked me and others without provocation, before I or they even started calling you on your shit. If you were really so "right-on", you wouldn't have made unprovoked attacks of me and other people here; therefore, you already ruined your "credibility", at least with me.
ONLY True Peace,
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04.24.07 - 4:38 am | #
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Boris Yeltsin was trash, an alcoholic thug whose total lack of morals made him a perfect choice to be the figurehead of the push that would defeat parliamentary rule in the former Soviet Union.
The Russian constitutional crisis of 1993 began in earnest on September 21, when Russian President Boris Yeltsin dissolved the country's legislature (Congress of People's Deputies and its Supreme Soviet), which opposed his moves to consolidate power and push forward with unpopular neoliberal reforms. Yeltsin's decree of September 21 contravened the then-functioning constitution; on October 15, after the end of the crisis, he ordered a referendum on a new constitution.
The Congress rejected the decree and voted to remove Yeltsin from presidency through impeachment. His estranged Vice President, Alexander Rutskoy, was sworn in accordance with the existing constitution as Acting President. On September 28, public protests against Yeltsin's government began in earnest on the streets of Moscow where the first blood was shed. The army remained under Yeltsin's control, which determined the outcome of the crisis. The legislators found themselves barricaded inside the White House of Russia parliament building. For the next week, anti-Yeltsin protests grew, until a mass uprising erupted in the city on October 2. Russia was on the brink of civil war. At this point the security and military elites threw their support behind Yeltsin, besieged the parliament building, and through the use of tank artillery nearly destroyed the building and cleaned it of the elected legislature.
Crushing the "second October Revolution," which, as mentioned, saw the deadliest street fighting in Moscow since 1917, cost hundreds of lives. Police said, on October 8, that 187 had died in the conflict and 437 had been wounded. Unofficial sources named much higher numbers, up to 1500 dead, mostly inside the White House. In any event, nearly all victims were killed by troops loyal to Yeltsin. Russian Army and Interior Ministry lost 12 soldiers, at least 9 of which were accidentally killed by their own men. It had been a close call; Yeltsin owed his victory to the military, the former KGB, and the Ministry of Interior, (themselves like their counterparts in the Pentagon and at the CIA, tools of the Zionist Ashkenazi, hereinafter Zionazi’s MT), not to support from the regions or a popular base of support. Wikipedia
Hasbeen politicians, Tony Major former PM of Great Britain for instance, are coming out of the woodwork describing Yeltsin as a champion of democracy, nothing could be further from the truth. He should have been arraigned on capital charges with his mates in the tanks, as a traitor. No to vivisection.
Fard El Kalb, The Destroyer |
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True Patriotism....? what would that be, exactly? To have killed for your government; i have, does that make me a true patriot? to have been wounded for your government?; i have, does that make me a true patriot? Maybe the only true patriots are in Arlington and Punch Bowl. If I wave my little redwhiteblue flag made in China, does that make me a patriot? Is a person worthy of being called a patriot who has never sacrificed for his country? Is my country the government? Is my government just the people in power at any given time? Did i swear allegiance to men or to the US Constitution? The writer Oscar Wilde said that patriotism was the last refuge for scoundrels. Mr. Wilde never set foot in a battle zone. And now I read that my government, the government of the United States of America, is building box cars with shackles and dentention camps for dissenters. THAT is NOT what i fought for. THAT is NOT a country worth sacrificing for. You others who talk so glibly about patriotism, what are you prepared to sacrifice for your country? Property? Liberty? Life? What is it you are loyal to? I imagine the other vets like chrisjones, terrythevet, iowamilitia know what i am getting at. I also imagine that others don't understand what i am about at all. I am about ruffling feathers and spreading fire. And don't ever think God doesn't have a sense of humor. I was a sniper and i lost an eye, ironic isn't it?
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re Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf)
You end all your posts with "ONLY true peace" but who determines what true peace is? You or Theodore Shackley? John Kerry or George Schultz? You talk a lot but most is just ventilation, there is hardly ever any news, facts or points of interest in anything you post. In all honesty most of your posts are in defense of something you have decided is true but probably wouldn´t even recognize if you came face to face with. I hope you realize that in the same way that you only glance at my posts and ignore their content after determining that im a fraud, people read your posts in the same way. An open forum is mainly for people to speak and rarely for people to listen. You would be more effective if you simply posted a link to actual information or place to take action. I try to do this instead of rant on and on about my own or others personality or lack there of. I think you either missed those posts or possibly you decided that Iran Contras and the disciples of the paperclip generation are unworthy of investigation for modern truthers? What is important in your research? To expose the NWO or just to expose your own ego?
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CORRECTION (I have a tendency to habitually leave words out): "....But first, I did NOT say everyone here was a shill...."
ONLY True Peace,
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) |
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The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.24.07 - 3:44 am | #
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LOL! There you go talking about yourself, not me, again. LOL!
Why are you getting so defensive and "striking-at" me so much, rhetorically speaking? Could it be because I "outed" you so completely and correctly, hitting the nails right on the head? Gee, let's see.... YEP!! You're really just embarassing yourself more and more, so you ought to just let it go before you embarass yourself even more. Remember, "(I'm) not worth it!"
ONLY True Peace,
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ak48 | 04.24.07 - 3:31 am | #
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You know, you aren't even worth responding to; but, for the "sake" of others here who probably fall for your question and would like to hear the answer, I will answer it:
But first, I did say everyone here was a shill, nor did I even say anyone here DEFINITELY is, except people like "Sara/Whoever-She-Calls-Herself" and "Commenter", etc. What I said people like yourself definitely are is trolls. As you know, there are trolls who are not working for the Zionists or the government, at least directly, so they aren't necessarilly shills; at least the way I see it. I'm sure you'll correct me if you think I'm wrong.
Now, to your question, Tammy, Marci, Jake, Gabe, Andrew, "Sane", Scott, Riley, etc., aren't trolls, or shills (please forgive me if there's anyone I left out); although I may have alluded that a couple of them were perhaps sounding like they could or might be. Believe it or not (and have a field day with this if you must), I am a True Patriot; so, like all truly, fully sensible such patriots, I DON'T TRUST ANYONE until they prove themselves to be trustworthy; and, if they say ANYTHING that makes them appear to be a government agent, I usually don't say anything about it, giving them the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves to not be trustworthy, I file it away, and I keep an "eye" on them for any further signs of where they really stand.
So, "forgive me" if I don't trust people who have proven themselves to be trolling. Maybe some of the so-called trustworthy regulars here, like Riley I think it was, have supposedly determined that you aren't a troll, and that you're supposedly to be trusted, but your "record" makes that highly suspect and unbelievable. If I'm wrong, I am truly sorry; but I don't think I am. I stick with gut, as I'm learning to do more and more of.
This comments board has been overrun with shills and trolls, so it makes it really difficult to trust ANYONE. Maybe there are a couple or few people here who know eachother and know without any doubt that they can truly trust eachother, but I find that hard to believe too, or that any of them is to be truly trusted either, particularly after they have played their "control freak" games.
If ANY of you trust anyone here, including me (not that you can't, but I don't blame you for not trusting anyone if you don't), I believe you are out of your frigging minds! With what many of you know, how can you?! This country and world are going more and more insane and "to hell in a handbasket"; or, in my words, insane "on an express train to hell"; and, therefore, we can trust anyone even less, and less and less. Maybe most of you don't see it as, or getting, that bad; but it most-definitely IS!! I truly wish I was wrong and that I could be more positive for all of you.
ONLY True Peace,
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sara---do the words, malleus maleficarum, have any meaning for you?
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It's just extremely unfortunate that most comments "boards" like this one get taken over by "regulars" like that, because it ruins the entire board on so many "patriot" boards that it's disgusting. Honestly, I truly don't know why I even bother to try and give boards like this one a chance. I know it's probably going to be the same old b.s., a gaggle of control-mongers who consciously or unconsciously feel they have to "gate-keep" and control and limit free speech, free expression, and free expression of religion.
You truly understanding and agreeing with anything I'm saying, Riley?
ONLY True Peace,
Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 3:18 am | #
It is "always the same" for you, because you lack the skills required to properly interact with people. Everywhere you go, you will get the same reaction. But, of course, it is everyone else in worlds' fault but your own.
I don't know why I am telling you this. Some part of me keeps thinking there must be a way to get through to you and that you have something worthwhile to contribute, but I have all but given up hope.
You fucking cry-baby. When you "get completely fed up with and leave," don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, you fucking traitorous (and you should know what that was for) desparate, cry-baby.
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re Riley
Religious right wants to remove them but don´t have the power. Those guidestones were put up in the same state that saw the creation of the federal reserve. But Georgia holds so many nice historical things:
http://www.cviog.uga.edu/
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http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.o...ersies&id=h-
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re Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf)
Can you name a single person on this board who is not either a phony or a shill? Except for yourself of course.
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You didn't start out a troll as far as I can tell Wolf. But when your desire for defending your character and name became SO evident to the expense of any effort made by (any one) to reach out and attempt to start over with you, it is merely more of the same! Come here to slander Alex Jones, and everyone who appears to support his views. Then why come here at all?? It seems to escalate into these bickering escapades that nearly drown out every other poster.
I wish you would just start from scratch Wolf. And merely post what is important to you and what you might like us to know about. That is all.
Riley
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You know this post of your's is very interesting and actually has a couple things worth responding to:
Except you believe Scott is sincere, or so you make it appear anyway. He's not sincere. Except perhaps "sincerely wrong".
I did NOT come here to slander Alex Jones! I used to say 98% of what he says is right-on; but, with his deteriorating into more and more hate- and violence mongering, he's dropped in my estimation to about 90% and dropping even further. Do you even know what slander is? Slander is making false accusations about people. EVERYTHING I've said about Alex has been exactly correct, so it ISN'T slander (I'll bet if I had anything, though, he'd sue me anyway). Like I've said or alluded to before, you worshippers of Jones, even though he's an all too human, finite and fault-ridden person, can't handle virtually ANY criticism of him, even if if it's constructive. Well, stop putting him on a pedastal! Contrary to the way you worshippers of him act, he isn't a god, and he isn't God, and he's leading you all to suicide.
Anyway, I've hardly said anything critical of Alex Jones. My criticisms of him have been about 5% of my total comments. So please quit exaggerating as usual.
And you know darn well that I'm not the one, or even one of the ones, who's drowning out other "posters". I "followed your suggestion", so to speak, before you even made it, and I DID post "what is important to (me) and what (I thought you guys might) like... to know about" (I did it today in particular, as a matter of fact), and tried over and over again to "start over"; but then, as Scott WAS right about, I started getting attacked from all sides yet again when I hadn't done anything wrong.
You also know, therefore, that there ARE several people here who will "tear me a new asshole" simply for posting Kurt Nimmo links or something like that; or having a fair amicable religious discussion with a couple of the regulars here (Gabe and Jake, etc.). They'll always find some "excuse" to screech about what a worthless piece of shit I supposedly am, simply or mostly because they're anti-Christian and can't stand believers in Christianity even being here, let alone making any comments about it. (The selective freedom of speech, and denial of equal rights to freedom of religion, thing again.)
So, in summary, you and several other people here never give me a chance to "start over"; and, regardless if I have the so-called "nerve" to even dare to even breathe the slightest little bit about Christianity, or to stand up to the true libelers and slanderers, you and those people will jump down my throat yet again, and again, and again....
In fact, there are those here who are carrying out a concerted effort to drive me to get so fed up with all of this "open-season on Wolf" crap, that I'll leave; so you who are guilty of it push and push and push and push, figuring it's worked so well before to drive people away, if will (supposedly) work with me. Well, I may leave because far too much, if not most, of the posts here aren't even worth reading, but not because ANYONE succeeded in driving me away.
Most of these "boards" are "taken over" by a clique of control freaks, regulars who won't tolerate any new people whose intelligence and/or religiousnes makes them feel threatened (I guess consciously or unconsciously they think they'll take their control of the board away from them---well, I have absolutely NO interest in trying to control ANYTHING here, so if they weren't so insecure and didn't feel so threatened by religious people, and/or people who make the slightest criticism(s) of Alex, they wouldn't have ANYTHING to feel threatened about; but, very sadly for them, they do). They want only spoken on the board what they want said or to hear; or, no offense meant to anyone like Tammy, they only want "innocuous" people who don't make them feel threatened. Talk about who needs to grow up!
It's just extremely unfortunate that most comments "boards" like this one get taken over by "regulars" like that, because it ruins the entire board on so many "patriot" boards that it's disgusting. Honestly, I truly don't know why I even bother to try and give boards like this one a chance. I know it's probably going to be the same old b.s., a gaggle of control-mongers who consciously or unconsciously feel they have to "gate-keep" and control and limit free speech, free expression, and free expression of religion.
You truly understanding and agreeing with anything I'm saying, Riley?
ONLY True Peace,
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Wolfie, I am done with you. Nobody wants to watch us fight. I have said what I needed to say to you, and this is the last. You 'win.' Now, go make some more enemies.
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Bush is stupid, the government is incompetent.
Nah, he is the perfect front man, for the perfect crime......"what me, I dunno??
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ROTFLOL! I just know, and see right through, phony people like you, that's all; and I know when people claiming to be my friends aren't. I was willing to "make peace" with you, even though I knew you were still manipulating, and that you would start it up again, and I didn't even bite at first, until you started in with the condescending, patronizing crap again, which you really couldn't ever stop. Even when you came back to "clarify", it was more of that crud.
Now you just proved how evil you are by just "going off" the way you have. Remember, in the vast majority of that b.s. you just spewed like a demon, you're simply describing yourself to a capital 'T', not me.
ONLY True Peace,
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(8:21 A.M.) Inside Flight 11, flight attendant Betty Ong calls Vanessa Minter at American Airlines reservations. Nydia Gonzales also listens in from 8:27. She talks for 25 minutes, until the plane crashes. The FBI says that only the first four minutes were recorded, but won't release the tape. Ong is apparently in the middle of the plane, but other flight attendants relay information about what is happening in the front. She says the hijackers had sprayed something in the first-class cabin to keep people out of the front of the plane. It burns her eyes and she is having trouble breathing. ["25 minute phone call until crash,"
8:52 A.M.ÊTwo F-15's take off from Otis ANG Base, six minutes after being ordered to go after Flight 11, which has already crashed. [8:52, NORAD, 9/18/01, 8:52, CNN, 9/17/01, 8:53, Washington Post, 9/12/01, 8:52, Washington Post, 9/15/01] This is 38 minutes after flight controllers lost contact with the plane.
Nuff said
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I've never taken issue with your posts. Just tired of all the hostility. That's it man...
Riley
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And I will just about guarantee you that after a while - if you could just do that - most will drop the hostility and things will smooth over. Besides, wouldn't it be nice to not have to defend yourself every other post??
Riley
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You didn't start out a troll as far as I can tell Wolf. But when your desire for defending your character and name became SO evident to the expense of any effort made by (any one) to reach out and attempt to start over with you, it is merely more of the same! Come here to slander Alex Jones, and everyone who appears to support his views. Then why come here at all?? It seems to escalate into these bickering escapades that nearly drown out every other poster.
I wish you would just start from scratch Wolf. And merely post what is important to you and what you might like us to know about. That is all.
Riley
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NO, NO , NO.......WE HOPE YOU DIE A PAINFUL DEATH, CANCER OF THE ASSHOLE AND ALL YOUR CHILDREN YOU FUCKHEAD EVIL POS!!
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WAP! WAP! WAP!
Riley : )
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I know your game too, Riley. You've been doin' it with me for awhile. You make it look like I do the attacking, when all I do is the defending. I never start this shite, and I ignore, as I've said, most of the true trolls most of the time, but when some people attack, I defend. And then people like you seek to make it look like I supposedly instigated it, and certain people eat those suggestions up, finding new impetus to attack me even further.
Save your suggestions for someone who's interested. (Of course, that's right, there are several people here who are interested in your veiled further put-downs of me! All of you love "open-season on Wolf".)
ONLY True Peace,
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You see, Anonymous. This crap posted below is some sort of script leaking thru Haloscan. I didn't even visit this page near the time that it was posted. Yet when I look down at the bottom of my page, this is what is already filled into comments areas:
Name: nlp encyclopedia
Email:udhhind@ablyl.com
URL:http://wetpussyguide.info/8/nlp-
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It self propagates by putting itself into comments sections and if people press Publish, it prints, and then leaks again..... I think anyways.
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Question.
How come somebody hasn't gone and kicked those Georgia Guidestones over yet?? Might need a pretty big boot!
Riley
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Wolf Britain (Call me Wolf) | Homepage | 04.24.07 - 12:37 am | #
Alright. Then just go fuck yourself. Does that work better for you? You, insecure, piece of shit.
You don't want to "get along," you don't want any friends, you want to call everyone that disagrees with you a shill. Ok you can just go fuck yourself. I have been here a very long time and have earned the respect of the people here, you have just come along and claim I am an evil shill? Just who the fuck are you? I can tell you, you are NOT going to make any friends here, period.
You have lost every last ounce of respect you have had from me, and I can no longer care if your feelings are hurt. You worthless piece of insecure and bitter trash.
Apparently you are NOT an intelligent 51 year old man. You are ignorant and immature. A real man can accept criticism without flying off the fucking handle every time. A real man does not get his ego crushed when someone questions them.
Numerous people have tried to reach out to you, and you bite their fucking hand every time. Your feelings are not mine or any other persons' responsibility. There is no place for you in a public forum because your insecurity issues are apparently so bad that you cannot function in society.
If you were mature enough, you would have seen that I was defending you. I will not again. You have lost what was once a friend.
Sincerely, go fuck yourself.
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Problem arises when folks come in here "specifically" to slander and attack. Then it becomes obvious they have nothing of merit to say, and are consequently re-buffed and WAPPED!!
Riley : )
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/
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Count the lies in todays's ress conference: 40, 50, 100?
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911 Truth is all over the Hip Hop world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h?
v=bUSgXBbnwO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M...related&
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...related&
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...related&
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Wolf,
Suggestion. Just post what you want and stop taking everything so personal. If you don't attack, they're not as likely to attack back and vise versa. I find this seems to work for me "most" of the time. People are really sensitive to having their integrity or character assassinated. Although, I must admit, many who come in here are pretty good at doing it themselves!
Riley : )
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Hi, Tammy!
We've missed you around here! What's been going on? Did your hubby want you to take a break from being on here because of his feelings that you're supposedly obsessing too much about "this stuff"? You sound okay now, so I guess you're alright. Good to "see" you back on here! I was worried about you.
God bless!
ONLY True Peace,
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Russian General says that international terrorism does not exist.
http://www.voltairenet.org/
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I recognize what game evil people like are playing: When I post "too much" meaningful stuff that makes me look too good, you control freaks on here, like you and Scott, bring discussion of me back to what a "loon" or some such thing I supposedly am, to "push my buttons", and "bait me" to argue with you to further try to make me look like more of a "loon", etc. Great mature stuff such people like you are playing at! It really makes you look "intelligent" at other peoples' expense! You're supposedly the good guys, and I'm supposedly the cretin! What foolish tools!
ONLY True Peace,
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Democrats to push March 31 Iraq war withdrawal
Richard Cowan
Reuters
Monday April 23, 2007
FRIGGIN COMPLICIT WUSSBAGS !! "el busho" tells them he's gonna veto anything with a timetable attached to withdraw our people like he's god himself and they allow 11 months, cant see its time to VETO bush and cheney BOTH ?!
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You know, Scott, I'm getting really tired of your patronizing and condescending attitude towards me. Who do you think you're talking to! I am a very intelligent 51 year old man, not some kid that you can get away with talking to like you are.
I've been watching that person, "Ak48", for quite a while. I've watched their tactics. I don't just assume anyone is a troll and/or a shill, especially like so many people have assumed I supposedly am.
You're not "okay" with me like you claim, and you're going to keep playing your mindgames. I'm not interested in your opinions, so please keep them to yourself. You don't like when I stand up to people, than you just ignore me. I'm done with your B.S.
ONLY True Peace,
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Excellent video by 9/11 Truth in Calgary.
http://digg.com/politics/
ABSOLUT...ES_USED_IN_9_11
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Riley:
Re: Gabe. Not a clue. Thought he came back with new name?
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Got you Marcianne,
Got to go get some groceries. Where's Gabe by the way?
Coffee's ON!
Riley
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http://video.google.com/videopla...on%3Along&
hl=en
wrecking ball
Here are the #1 suspects
sane |
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Riley: I hear you. If you ever want to talk off board,
marcianne_98@sbcglobal.net
Goes for you too impeachy.
Peace,
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The Mayan Calendar Comes North 01 - Ian Xel Lungold
http://video.google.com/videopla...n+lungold&
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The Mayan Calendar Comes North 02 - Ian Xel Lungold
http://video.google.com/videopla...n+lungold&
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I'll shut-up now and let people post the world changing info that really matters I suppose since this isn't a personal chat-room. But we do have to lighten things up once and awhile and remember we are people and not just databanks for information retrieval and dissemination.
Riley
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Yah Marcianne,
Gets old real fast. But we have a nice lull right now. Just enjoying it.
Riley
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I think those big fat orange and yellow plastic bats (about 6-8 inches wide and 2 1/2 ft long or so that I remember as a kid) would make good troll thumpers. Don't really hurt, but make a nice WAPP! sound!
Riley ; )
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Hey Riley, tired of the nonsense here?
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I was just putting out the possibility that if my uncle is right that a plane from that unknown base could have shot it down like some say it was.
I don't know and I don't know numbers either.
Just an idea I had.
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Bats anyone??LOL.
Funny sense of humor. Sane talks a lot about bats and beaning people over the head with them. Perhaps that was your inference???
Riley : )
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Is it safe to come on?lol - Impeachy
So far so good. Not guaranteed to last though..
Riley : )
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Crazzy Idea.
I flew flight 93 months before 911. About 10 months or so. I flew over my home town in NW PA. I recognized it from the air. I saw all the lakes in the right places. there was a few lakes to be seen and the hills that I grew up with.
Anyhow I just got back home from a visit to my uncle there today. I was just thinking of 911 and I recalled my uncle said there is a hidden air base near by him. He said he saw the planes out on the field when they were not suppose to be. He did not tell me the timing he saw them. I was telling him about 911 and showed him the cut beams on the net on my laptop. As well as the DU babies. My aunt and uncle saw them on the net as well from me. That is how I wake people up.
Anyhow as I was saying if there is a base in NW PA and flight 93 goes nearby there maybe there is something to it being shot down.
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was it the same plane tail numbers, a plane has number on the tail,and it says who ownes it. Are you saying gamma rays are near you, they might be harmful. Dont grow gardens next to them,
Really
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Re:nasty your time is up. Bats anyone..lol
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Can't and won't go into that Sara. Thanks for asking. Met on a job.
Riley
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impeachy: I want to know how your activsm went the other night.
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I am quite certain of this now, because I recently became acquainted with someone who is sharing his research (though somewhat sloppy) with me. He has been a transient running from this technology that literally follows him with EMP pulses and bio-feedback loops that are magnetic in nature. This is all new to me. But my eyes have been opened. The pictures he has are very alarming. It has something to do with the chemtrails, SDI (Star Wars Defense Initiative), HAARP, sychotrometers (spelling?), the "Z-machine" at Sandia National Laboratory, mirrors on satellites, range-finder lasers that gather target information, psychocivilized society (entire regions electrically stimulated without their knowledge), etc. etc...
The journey begins...
Riley
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a transient you meet, was it hitchhicking across the lilly covered medows?
Pray tell who the lap-top guy is, doed he plug in, at hotels?
wondering.
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Hi Iowamilitiaman! Yeah Rupurt is garbage.I just wanted to see Rosie's reaction.I will be back later.
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Okay. I suspect now Rosies Job is in Danger.
If that Guy has anything to do with it.
She' s probably done on news TV.
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Timm all, thanks for the Lars/Alex interview. We need to elect leaders who stand up to the bullshit.
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Hi Iowamilitiaman! Yeah Rupurt is garbage.I just wanted to see Rosie's reaction.I will be back later.
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I'd say it's too late for you to salvage your own presumed credibility.
Rothschild-Mayers not jews. Wow.
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You really wanna play this game again????
Forbs top Billionaires (somehow I do not see 98% jewish, maybe I am blind. Albright has some jewish in her??? maybe wolfowitz gave it to her ):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...ionaires_(2006)
Bill Gates
Warren Buffett
Carlos Slim Helú
Ingvar Kamprad
Lakshmi Mittal
Mittal Steel Company
Paul Allen
Bernard Arnault
Prince Al-Waleed
David Thomson
Li Ka Shing
Roman Abramovich
Sibneft; Rusal; Chelsea F.C.
Michael Dell
Karl Albrecht
Sheldon Adelson
Larry Ellison
Liliane Bettencourt
Christy Walton
Jim Walton
S. Robson Walton
Alice Walton
Helen Walton
Theo Albrecht
Amancio Ortega
Steven Ballmer
Azim Premji
Sergey Brin
Larry Page
Abigail Johnson
Anne Cox Chambers
Barbara Cox Anthony
The Nasser Al-Kharafi family
Stefan Persson
Charles Koch
David H. Koch
Raymond, Thomas and Walter Kwok
Adolf Merckle
Lee Shau Kee
Silvio Berlusconi
Sulaiman Bin Abdul Al Rajhi
Vagit Alekperov
Novolipetsk Steel
Vladimir Lisin
The Michael Otto family
Pierre Omidyar
Forrest Mars Jr.
Jacqueline Mars
John Mars
Leonardo Del Vecchio
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Crazzy Idea.
I flew flight 93 months before 911. About 10 months or so. I flew over my home town in NW PA. I recognized it from the air. I saw all the lakes in the right places. there was a few lakes to be seen and the hills that I grew up with.
Anyhow I just got back home from a visit to my uncle there today. I was just thinking of 911 and I recalled my uncle said there is a hidden air base near by him. He said he saw the planes out on the field when they were not suppose to be. He did not tell me the timing he saw them. I was telling him about 911 and showed him the cut beams on the net on my laptop. As well as the DU babies. My aunt and uncle saw them on the net as well from me. That is how I wake people up.
Anyhow as I was saying if there is a base in NW PA and flight 93 goes nearby there maybe there is something to it being shot down.
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He spoke shortly after Bush gave Gonzales a strong vote of confidence and a few hours before the attorney general himself vowed to remain in his post despite bipartisan criticism of his leadership. At a contentious Senate Judiciary Committee hearing last week, Gonzales claimed dozens of times that he couldn't recall key details about the firings or about a meeting that records show he attended.
As the man who oversaw a state, Huckabee said there comes a point, as a chief executive, when "you need to start asking is this becoming a large distraction that's keeping us from doing the important things that we need to be getting done."
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Alberto Gonzales does not remember his meeting, and hes head of the Attorneys office?..Alberto is on drugs, maybe Meth. What a dork.
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I was on Rosies wweb site apperently she has to have Rupurt Murdock on.She was ill from it.I dont know if I missed it or not-anyone else know?
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Ron Paul comes in 2nd in a poll he wasn't even listed on.
http://digg.com/ 2008_us_election...en_being_listed
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FUCK YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is it safe to come on?lol
I was on Rosies wweb site apperently she has to have Rupurt Murdock on.She was ill from it.I dont know if I missed it or not-anyone else know?
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Amazingly the trolling has all but evaporated for the time being. Everyone with anything of merit to post, get to it before it gets lost in the personal slander that inevitably is aroused by suspicion of trolls.
Riley
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Ron Paul comes in 2nd in a poll he wasn't even listed on.
http://digg.com/
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Silver,
more readily exchangeable in small amounts unlike 1 oz. gold. I have some. I was just making a point though. Thanks Iowa.
Riley
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Yes I know. But what good is any of it if everything lyes in ruin? You cannot eat it.
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Silver,
more readily exchangeable in small amounts unlike 1 oz. gold. I have some. I was just making a point though. Thanks Iowa.
Riley
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Waxman: 'Systematic' security failures in Bush White House
Michael Roston
Published: Monday April 23, 2007
Print This Email This
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
Wa..._Bush_0423.html
The head of the House Committee on Oversight and Governance Reform warned today of a "systematic failure" in basic security procedures as well as the safeguarding of classified information in the White House of President George W. Bush.
"Multiple current and former White House security personnel have informed my staff that White House practices have been dangerously inadequate with respect to investigating security violations, taking corrective action following breaches, and physically securing classified information," Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) wrote to former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card today.
Waxman sought Card's cooperation in his probe of a "systematic breakdown" in White House security procedures.
According to Waxman, the security personnel "described a systemic breakdown in security procedures at the White House," and he warned that they suggested "that the security lapses that characterized the White House response to the leak of [former covert CIA Agent Valerie Plame] Wilson's identity were not an isolated occurrence, but part of a pattern of disregard for the basic requirements for protecting our national security secrets."
The Oversight Committee chairman listed consistent allegations presented to his committee. The White House, he reported in the letter, ignored security breaches, blocked West Wing security inspections, and condoned mismanagement of the White House Security Office.
Waxman's letter noted criticism of James Knodell, the Director of the White House Security Office, and Ken Greeson, the Deputy Director, for their inexperience and poor management.
"Security procedures prohibit bringing electronic communication devices into a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF)," Waxman wrote.
But in fact, subjects interviewed by his committee reported that "Mr. Knodell and Mr. Greeson habitually violate this prohibition by bringing Blackberry devices and cell phones into the SCIF...and allowed others, such as visiting White House personnel, to do the same. They said that this practice continued even after security officers repeatedly informed Mr. Knodell and Mr. Greeson that the practice violates security rules and sets a poor example."
In another case, Waxman's letter did not name anyone, but referred to an alarming breach committed by Bush White House staff.
"A White House official left [Sensitive Compartmented Information] material behind in a hotel room during a foreign trip with the President. Although the CIA recovered the SCI material and reported the incident, the White House Security Office did not investigate, seek remedial action, or discipline the responsible official," he wrote.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h?
v=HiQjx3dU72Q
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Interested how fast Alien space-craft can move?????
Answer, 835'000 MPH. and thats first gear.
The space shuttle travels 18'000 MPH.
This guys wicked, check his video, and you see a Alien Ship comming out of Hyper Space. The ship is 3 Miles in diameter. Fuck when they shut down the grid, we've got free energy Universally.
Evidence: The Case For NASA UFO's - Part 2
http://video.google.com/
videopla...267568796529301
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I mean look at the days of ole? Common people dealt mostly in Silver in commerce. Gold was for the very well to do.
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Silver Riley! SILVER! Silver has been under priced for some time. You get more for the Buck as well. Gols will become such a locked up asset. That's
What the Gold bugs aren't telling ya!
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The DOW goes up, but the dollar falls . Don't these investers understand they are buying at a Loss?
No doubt. Buy gold instead. Unless they've figured out a way to alchemically reproduce gold (and I wouldn't put it past 'em).
When the grid goes down. Gold may not do us much good. Food, Water, Weapons (spiritual and physical), Knowledge of First Aid.
Riley
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You know what doesn't make sense to me at all?
The DOW goes up, but the dollar falls . Don't these investers understand they are buying at a Loss?
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Much worse, the market is being pumped to artificially raise prices, when the pumping stops there will be cheap labor everywhere:
Commentary Last Updated: Mar 5th, 2007 - 01:44:48
Juicing the stock market; the secret maneuverings of the Plunge Protection Team
By Mike Whitney
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Mar 5, 2007, 01:33 Email this article
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The Working Group on Financial Markets, also know as the Plunge Protection Team, was created by Ronald Reagan to prevent a repeat of the Wall Street meltdown of October 1987. Its members include the secretary of the Treasury, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, the chairman of the SEC and the chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.
Recently, the team has been on high alert given the increased volatility of the markets and what Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson calls “the systemic risk posed by hedge funds and derivatives.”
Last Tuesday’s 416-point drop in the stock market has sent tremors through global systems. An 8 percent freefall on the Chinese stock exchange triggered a massive equities sell-off which continued sporadically throughout the week. The sudden shift in sentiment, from bull to bear, has drawn more attention to deeply rooted “systemic” problems in the US economy. US manufacturing is already in recession, the dollar continues to weaken, consumer spending is flat, and the sub-prime market in real estate has begun to nosedive. These have all contributed to the markets’ erratic behavior and created the likelihood that the Plunge Protection Team may be stealthily intervening behind the scenes.
According to John Crudele of the New York Post, the Plunge Protection Team’s (PPT) modus operandi was revealed by a former member of the Federal Reserve Board, Robert Heller. Heller said that disasters could be mitigated by “buying market averages in the futures market, thus stabilizing the market as a whole.” This appears to be the strategy that has been used.
Former-Clinton advisor, George Stephanopoulos, verified the existence of The Plunge Protection Team (as well as its methods) in an appearance on Good Morning America on Sept 17, 2000. Stephanopoulos said, “Well, what I wanted to talk about for a few minutes is the various efforts that are going on in public and behind the scenes by the Fed and other government officials to guard against a free-fall in the markets. . . . perhaps the most important the Fed in 1989 created what is called the Plunge Protection Team, which is the Federal Reserve, big major banks, representatives of the New York Stock Exchange and the other exchanges and they have been meeting informally so far, and they have a kind of an informal agreement among major banks to come in and start to buy stock if there appears to be a problem. They have in the past acted more formally . . . I don’t know if you remember but in 1998, there was a crisis called the Long term Capital Crisis. It was a major currency trader and there was a global currency crisis. And they, with the guidance of the Fed, all of the banks got together when it started to collapse and propped up the currency markets. And, they have plans in place to consider that if the markets start to fall.”
Stephanopoulos’ comments have never been officially denied. In fact, as Ambrose Evans-Pritchard of the U.K. Telegraph notes, Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson has called for the PPT to meet with greater frequency and set up “a command centre at the US Treasury that will track global markets and serve as an operations base in the next crisis. The top brass will meet every six weeks, combining the heads of Treasury, Federal Reserve, Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), and key exchanges.”
This suggests that the PPT may have been deeply involved in last Wednesday’s “miraculous” stock market rebound from Tuesday’s losses. There was no apparent reason for the market to suddenly “go positive” following a ruinous day that shook investor confidence around the world. The editors of the New York Times summarized the feelings of many market-watchers who were baffled by this odd recovery: “The torrent of bad news on housing is only worsening, with a report yesterday that new home sales for January had their steepest slide in 13 years . . . Manufacturing has already slipped into a recession, with activity contracting in two of the last three months. How is it then that investors took Mr. Bernanke’s words as a ‘buy’ signal?”
How indeed, unless other forces were operating secretly behind the scenes?
Market rigging
“Gaming” the system may be easier than many people believe. Robert McHugh, Ph.D., has provided a description of how it works which seems consistent with the comments of Robert Heller.
McHugh lays it out like this: “The PPT decides markets need intervention, a decline needs to be stopped, or the risks associated with political events that could be perceived by markets as highly negative and cause a decline; need to be prevented by a rally already in flight. To get that rally, the PPT’s key component -- the Fed -- lends money to surrogates who will take that fresh electronically printed cash and buy markets through some large unknown buyer’s account. That buying comes out of the blue at a time when short interest is high. The unexpected rally strikes blood, and fear overcomes those who were betting the market would drop. These shorts need to cover, need to buy the very stocks they had agreed to sell (without owning them) at today’s prices in anticipation they could buy them in the future at much lower prices and pocket the difference. Seeing those stocks rally above their committed selling price, the shorts are forced to buy -- and buy they do. Thus, those most pessimistic about the equity market end up buying equities like mad, fueling the rally that the PPT started. Bingo, a huge turnaround rally is well underway, and sidelines money from Hedge Funds, Mutual funds and individuals’ rushes in to join in the buying madness for several days and weeks as the rally gathers a life of its own.” (Robert McHugh, Ph.D., “The Plunge Protection Team Indicator”)
If a secret team is interfering in the stock market, it presents serious practical and moral issues. For one thing, it disrupts natural “corrections” which are a normal part of the business cycle and which help to maintain a healthy and competitive slate of equities.
More importantly, outside intervention punishes the people who see the weaknesses in the stock market and have invested accordingly. Clearly, these people are being ripped off by the PPT’s back-channel manipulations. They deserve to be fairly compensated for the risks they have taken.
Moreover, artificially propping up the market only encourages over-leveraged speculators and smiley-face Pollyanna’s who continue to believe that the grossly inflated market will continue to rise. Rewarding foolishness only stimulates greater speculation.
The tinkering of the PPT is sure to erode confidence in the unimpeded activity of capital markets. It’s astonishing to think that, after years of singing the praises of the “free market” as the ultimate expression of God’s divine plan, these same conservative ideologues and “market purists” favor a strategy for direct intrusion. The actions of the Plunge Protection Team prove that it’s all baloney. The “free market” is merely a public relations myth with no basis in reality. Saving the system will always take precedent over ideology, just as the “invisible hand” will always be overpowered by the manicured and mettlesome fingers of banking elites and Wall Street big wigs. It’s their system and they’re not going to let it get wiped out by some silly commitment to principle.
The free market system is supposed to be “self cleansing” through cyclical purges of over-inflated equities and over-extended speculators. Do we really want “central planning” from an unelected, Market Nanny that rejiggers the system according to its own economic interests?
The Plunge Protection Team may wrap itself in pompous rhetoric, but it operates like a Fiscal Politburo, inserting itself into the market in way that promotes the narrow interests of its own constituents. It’s an outrage.
Besides, the market is so fragile it trembles every time someone halfway around the world sells a fistful of equities. It needs a good shakedown.
The years of deregulation have taken their toll. The market is resting on a foundation of pure quicksand. Collateralized debt, rickety hedge funds, shaky sub-prime equities, and an ocean of margin debt are just a few examples of deregulation’s excesses. These untested debt instruments are presently bearing down on Wall Street like a laser-guided missile. It’ll take more than Hank Paulson and his PPT “plumber’s unit” to prevent the implosion.
Wall Street needs to regain its lost credibility with more regulation and stricter laws. The system needs a major face-lift. Still, even as the markets rumble and shake, Paulson rejects any move towards greater government supervision.
According to The New York Times, “Henry Paulson and top financial regulators said the government need not -- and should not -- provide greater oversight for the $1.4 trillion hedge fund industry, or, by extension, the trillions of dollars more in complex derivative transactions spawned by the industry. That stance is mostly free-market ideology run amok. But it is also based on the unproven assumption that unregulated investing, which dispersed risk and reduced volatility as markets surged, will continue to do so when markets tank.
“The upshot is a one-sided bet for investors. They have explicit assurances from regulators and policy makers that almost anything goes when the markets are ho
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Yes folks just what we need another Bush so that another 3000 citizens can be murdered and more senior citizens can be fleeced of their life savings.
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They are fleecing this entire Nation. I bet theylaugh at us right before bed during their little nigh Cap rituals.
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To say this Catholic school is TOTALLY HYPOCRITAL, is an understatement! First they ask teacher's to discuss the issue of shootings, which this teacher was trying to show if those victim's had been armed, shooter would have NOT murdered all those kids. And furthermore, to have a Catholic school be HYPOCRITES since Pope and Catholic church KNOWINGLY passed around those pedofile priests and did NOTHING but move them to unknowingly parrishes is mind boggling! Not to mention the Pope's recent decision to ask for "advice" none other then mass murdering, war criminal, total traitor Henry Kissinger for 'advice" when Pope knows Kissinger is a mass murderer and war crminal is beyond belief! What "advide" did the Pope hope to get from the war criminal? What BS by this school who tries to portray as being so damn innocent! Give me a break! And NO, I am not just bashing Catholic's here either!
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Look out for when the Dow hits 13,000. You know how they love "13" and other numbers. If it hits and nothing happens, beware it may hit again...Just a thought.
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You know what doesn't make sense to me at all?
The DOW goes up, but the dollar falls . Don't these investers understand they are buying at a Loss?
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We all know that Jeb Bush like his father says is a great guy. He sat on the board of directors of the Lincoln Savings & Loan, which was the biggest of the savings and loans to collapse during the great savings and loan scam that robbed senior citizens of their life savings, to the tune of 150 billions dollars. How could we forget it was on the front page of every news paper for months, but forget we did? Just happened that daddy Bush was president and with the help of the U.S Ambassador to Kuwait who was increasingly told by Saddam Hussein that Kuwait was Iraqi territory and that he intended to take it back. Glaspie's ill-chosen comments may have helped convince the dictator that Washington would look the other way if he "annexed" a neighboring kingdom and the trap was set the first Gulf war was on and the greatest rip off on senior citizens in this countries history was swept under the rug never to be heard about again. Yes folks just what we need another Bush so that another 3000 citizens can be murdered and more senior citizens can be fleeced of their life savings.
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The current administration, well, lives in the caves,under the white house in washington DC.
Freemasons rituals are very strong. Like drugs.
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These people sell Americans welfare off like yesterdays day Old bread.
If the people ever got Wind of what Is really going on in Their halls of Government? These peoplel would all be in prison by Sun up.
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Look out for when the Dow hits 13,000. You know how they love "13" and other numbers. If it hits and nothing happens, beware it may hit again...Just a thought.
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You can but imagine how we feel when we see the bubbles waving their flags, sporting their banners on their shirts and hats, hand over their hearts, God have mercy on them, for they have given their allegiance and faith to a haterull breed, Caines legacy exists.
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I just watched, " Orwell rolls over in His Grave."
I knew this country was in Bad shape. I just didn't realise how fra down the toilet we've gone.
But after watching this? Oh BOY! This country better wake the Hell up and Fast.
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Re:sane, I really wonder if you download that sound bite,from "demon seed"with Julie christy(english),its so cool. See the movie trailer,I remember seeing it in the theature when it came out. Your such a card. The english really do have great wit.
lololol
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What I loved about that interview of Alex on Lars Larsen was the way he stopped Lars every single time that Lars was pumping the accepted propaganda. Alex didn't let a single thing left unsaid. And his passion came through. He explained himself so well. Lars tried to make him look cooky at points more because Lars himself probably felt like shit for not knowing what Alex knows, but Alex fired back point for point in real time. It was amazing.
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Is Cheney Right? Will Democrats Cave on Iraq Funding?"
They've caved on everything else, should it be surprising?
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The current administration, well, lives in the caves,under the white house in washington DC.
Freemasons rituals are very strong. Like drugs.
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Since we have been given the right to a well formed armed militia, has anyone examined what steps are necessary to do something about the lack of confidence over 80% of Americans have in this govt?
It is so clever the whole Dem v Rep shit.
Pretty soon whack here comes another baseball bat hitting us in the head and then talking away more rights.
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----- Hi S. When Pres. Eisenhower was leaving office he warned us about the Military and the MIC he warned us our contstitution was our anchor, our base of freedom. So have many other pols.to many to mention.
Our defensive and offensive armed forces, including Nukes are the largest globaly. Our tax dollar is the devoted to these mass armadas and their wars so cleverly manipulated..
They began their quest for suprmecy after Korea, and completed their domination after JFK was killed. They went hog wild, and nothing or no one
including our esteemed politicians could stop them or made a major effort to bring them back to the reality, they implanted their pols. and used any method of coersion avaialable, be it blackmail,fortunes,promisses of elections wins, and now these criminals have insideously taken control. The Power.
One last thing, us commoners , us peons,who went to Nam, knew we were screwed from the get go. The ol Gov, the puppet pols. their Elite MIC, we knew them, and we knew they had us by the balls.
We were their cannon fodder, their human sacrifces, so were the Vietnamise. 4 million of em.So for the Vets I knew, this takeover in place, this abomination is the culmination of the Elites dream come true. For many of us this is a rerun of former times, a tragic, and fatefull rerun.Those ho speak of evil on this web, you can be certain this regime and their masters are evil incarnate.
You can but imagine how we feel when we see the bubbles waving their flags, sporting their banners on their shirts and hats, hand over their hearts, God have mercy on them, for they have given their allegiance and faith to a haterull breed, Caines legacy exists.
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TULSA,OKLAHOMA POLICE WILL SHOT NIGGERS AND WET-BACKS(HESPANICS)IN THEIR OWN DRIVEWAYS,IF PARKED FOR MORE THAN 20 MIN,IF A BAD NEIGHBOR CALLS THE 911,AND SAYS "BURGLARY IN PROGRESS" AT YOUR OWN HOME OR YOUR FREINDS. IF YOUR ARE IN TULSA. THEY WILL BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT IF YOU MOVE,SO DONT MOVE//END"
P.S.EVEN IF YOU LIVED THERE A WHILE.AT NIGHT. EVEN IF THE FINE OFFICER SAYS PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE STEARING WHEEL OF YOUR GARDENING TRUCK,DONT,IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A NETHAL ACT.RESIT.
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Its "lethal". If the Tulsa Police Department parking in his own driveway, well, it was night, is a clear message that the Tulsa Cops are not letting things be like Los Angeles, or New Mexico, he was in fact "ambushed:. I would suggest to non-white dont move to Tulsa!
Trust me that neighbor knew darn well, he was his home. Imagine if every white call 911, and said "a suspected gardner" is sitting in his truck, on any driveway,in Tusla, could have a very short life.
I say, please,please Tulsa or any one else in the UNited States do not call 911 and do this. This of the life you be saving. Cops are figity, and if you move, then they get scared. They shot.
Downtown Oklahoma city just fine, not Tulsa.
Tulsa has a motto, "up with trees". My cousin lives there, and says so. I live in the Dakotas, local cops,know me and like me. They just dont like "shadows".
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Theses pathological liars know precisely what they is doing. Confused hashes of history and wishes are called confabulation.
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Yo fuckhead, Here's an interesting fact for your backward IQ.
The language you use to discribe others is in fact a discription o |