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"The government is hiding something.Why the quick removal of evidence from the crime scene?People were sure in a hurry to clean up the site when time should've been devoted to a thorough investigation."
GEESH, COULD IT HAVE BEEN BECAUSE THERE WERE STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE MISSING?? YA THINK, DUMBASS!
AND AS FOR RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE: THAT BAND SUCKS DICK ANYWAY. IF WE'RE LUCKY, THEY WILL HATE AMERICA ENOUGH TO GET FUCKING LOST IN SOME THIRD WORLD COUNTRY AND GO FUCK THEMSELVES!
haha | 07.18.07 - 11:02 am | #
haha, as far as your first point, just plain dumb, I mean c'mon it is like you're not even trying.
As far as your second point...no comment
haha
I JUST HAVE TO COMMENT ON THIS RETARDED REMARK WAYYYY UP ABOVE...
"The government is hiding something.Why the quick removal of evidence from the crime scene?People were sure in a hurry to clean up the site when time should've been devoted to a thorough investigation."
GEESH, COULD IT HAVE BEEN BECAUSE THERE WERE STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE MISSING?? YA THINK, DUMBASS!
AND AS FOR RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE: THAT BAND SUCKS DICK ANYWAY. IF WE'RE LUCKY, THEY WILL HATE AMERICA ENOUGH TO GET FUCKING LOST IN SOME THIRD WORLD COUNTRY AND GO FUCK THEMSELVES!
"Not about Al Gore. It's about survival of the planet for our children."
And this is why/how the NWO wins. Idiots.
Commenter | 06.22.07 - 7:59 pm | #
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Again you? You a sick sad bastard. You really need to take a look at your life if posting things like that is what you are doing with it.
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Wow how gandhiesque of you, we should bow to your grat wisdom
"Not about Al Gore. It's about survival of the planet for our children."
And this is why/how the NWO wins. Idiots.
"i want to see adult man, fuk hs wife,i watch see back,his hairy balls,on the pussy,big,balls, i eat the climax,cum,while i eat his ass hole...."
Again you? You a sick sad bastard. You really need to take a look at your life if posting things like that is what you are doing with it.
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DAMN SON A BITCHIN FREAKIN NEW WORLD ORDER.
Well if it's war Paul Harvey wants, it's war he should get.
That insane old puke should be hung.
And whats the beef with boxcutters? Are you a tough guy and take down 4 armed militants who were claiming to have a bomb as well.
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I have no beef with boxcutters and I'm no tough guy but I'm not a pussy either. I just don't buy the story.Oh, and most of the hijackers are still alive but you'll contribute that to confusion and bad intelligence gathering.
If Osama did 9/11 why isn't it listed on his FBI sheet?
Workers cut the steel beams for removal?That's plausible.Amongst all the photos and video footage I haven't found one shred of evidence supporting this.
I am making my conclusions based on other sources besides PP and Loose Change.I've watched a couple of vids from Dutch demo experts,I've seen almost every video out there from 9/11 and I've poured over every site I can find.
Like you, I want answers.I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
Sorry if I offended you Anonymous, I get hot headed at times.I do aplogise and in the future I'll be more cordial.
You or someone mentioned the top of the tower tipping over.How can it possibly right itself and follow the rest of the collapse?Seems to defy logic.
The government is hiding something.Why the quick removal of evidence from the crime scene?People were sure in a hurry to clean up the site when time should've been devoted to a thorough investigation.
If the case of 9/11 was cut and dried there wouldn't be the conflict that there is with what happened that day.
Paul Harvey's statements reveal nothing more than the results of alzheimers seeping in. To think so many people listen to this poor excuse for a human being is more than I can fathom.
He obviously is in need of retirement......so he can spend time reading books such as "The People's History of America" by Howard Zinn.
It's fun to debate and kick around ideas on the internet. And yes it's useful to wake up your fellow man and woman to things that Many try and keep from them. I applaud that.
But how many here also are offering Solutions or other ways of living that do not involve being a part of this coming System of the Anti-Christ? Are people here buying LOW on the food chain, buying NO useless Wal-Mart made in China items. Buying local? Buying organic? Boycotting ALL of the major companies that support this Beast System.
If one REALLY wants to make a difference remember things like 9-11 are ECONOMIC based and the way to make change is ECONOMICALLY. STOP giving your money to the ELITISTS companies that turn around and use it to enslave you further. They want to CRUSH any last Independence, so become MORE Independent as much as you can. Raise you own food. Protect yourself. Look out for yourself and your LOCAL neighbors and form LOCAL groups to act locally FIRST.
If there is ONE thing the Elitists will have a hard time subdueing it is the banding together of LOCAL people into tight knit protective groups that rely on and help each other out WITHOUT interacting with ANY of the services supplied by The Elitists.
STOP BUYING ANYTHING MADE IN CHINA OR OUTSOURCED. STOP GIVING MONEY TO TRAITORS THAT HAVE SOLD OUT YOUR COUNTRY! LET THEM ALL EAT THEIR MADE IN CHINA OUTSOURCED JUNK, AND LET IT ROT AND RUST ON THE SHELVES. MAKE THIS YOUR MANTRA AND PASS IT ON!
DR.RON PAUL IN 2008!!!
T.A.
Why did the towers fall at freefall speed, as if you through a penny off the top? Derrrr.
How fast should they have fallen?
Why are there blast shoots comming out of the sides of the building on its way down?
Breaking windows, compressed air. Buildings are mostly air.
Why where there massive explosions heard from the base of the Trade Centre complex?
Transformers, concrete, bodies, maybe cars too?
Why did Building 7 collapse at all?
Thousands of tons of debris from the N tower falling from 50 stories up gutted the inside and exterior and took its legs out. Fires. Questionable construction.
a derrrr
Ow wow, I didn't realize that Mr. Paul talked about getting rid of the IRS and inflation last night. Cool.
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Alex and his British accent..........
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It just goes to show that no one is going to save us but ourselves.
Shit, Gravel didn't want to jail Cheney? Ah well fuck that then. Yah after I wrote that I watched again the video of him in the Dem Debate, and when he said with conviction that "We have no enemies", it showed that he knows that Al-Queda is a farce. So we got Ron Paul who won't say anything in public about 9/11. And now we got Mike Gravel who won't say anything about 9/11. And they both know. They both at one point owned up to their knowledge about the NWO. Ron Paul in congress about the Fed a few months ago, and Gravel about the MIC. So either they are scared to say something about 9/11. Or they are misjudging what is important and putting the presidency above 9/11 Truth. And I just really don't think that that is going to work for them. The power of the NWO is too much for either of them without doing that. Suppression of their exposure in the media. Election rigging. And the last resort of quiet or overt assassination if they win and really want to make change. Besides, there is no guarantee that if either of them got into office that they would make any real changes. To me, someone who doesn't align themselves with 9/11 Truth in public doesn't have the ability to stand up to the bankers and do what it would take to make real changes anyway. But after all that I would still like either of them to win before any of the others. All of that is really easy for me to say. I probably wouldn't have the guts to debate 9/11 Truth in public as a presidential candidate. But it's the only thing I think will work.
and by the way, they say a flak vest will stop most small arms fire--do you want to test it out?
Would you like to test out a cars airbags?
Its a hell of a way to learn and tell you what, there wont be many more highrises constructed in the way WTC was.
Anonymous | 05.03.07 - 11:27 pm | #
I guess you don't watch your local news and see the police surviving BECAUSE of those flak jackets huh!?!?!?
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And I AM a scientist who disagrees with the above comments about the firemen cutting the girders. Did you notice that these same girders where at the edges to the street and there was NOT a connecting piece or a crane holding any thing that resembled a connecting piece or the other half. Seems they did not have time to cut it and haul it away too the day of the collapse when so much had to be assessed before demonlition an removal of evidence began. Oh yeah did you think about how they did not investigate the damage on site to make a complete determination to the "pancake" action never seen in the history of skyscrapers?
Guess not and I predict you will not be able to handle the answer without quoting from Faux Fox news.
convince him to work on the Federal Reserve and the CIA afterwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...?v=9...related&
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I'm moreso under the impression this old guy knows exactly whats going on but is saying what he can get away with regarding suppression and sheeple. same old business as usual disgusting neocon/NWO/corporate/MIC machine it was when he skipped the scene. obvious hes oldster but IQ gotta be triple what we got now. I disagree his position about cheney, jail that monster!! but old gravel looking pretty good.
OMG, Alex just did the best impression of the Queen of England on his show. lol.
Yah and then acetone will be $50 dollars a bottle and girls won't be able to get the nail polish off their fingers.
Hey guys, listen to this interview of Wolf Blitzer with Mike Gravel. Blitzer is being a complete asshole at every turn, but Mike holds his own. Gravel is naive and has everything backwards about Al-Qaeda. But the really interesting thing about this is that whether he confused or not, his plan would be a good start in the middle east, no matter if it was the CIA or a real terrorist doing the act. Listen to how he explains things. In the fake world that he lives in, his idea works for all of us. The priority being to stand down an aggressive posture. He says that even if "Al-Queda" did nuke an American city, retaliating with nukes and blowing up half the world trying to kill someone in a cave would not be the answer. So even if the CIA nukes us, he won't go bomb the middle east. Meanwhile the rest of us are waking up and we could convince him to work on the Federal Reserve and the CIA afterwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...related&
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I can see it now, A run on Acetone.
Marcianne | 05.04.07 - 11:46 am | #
personally I think most politicians should travel by hot air balloon because it'd be really economical.
I can see it now, A run on Acetone.
Yah, you gotta love how they set up that camera to catch the impact of Flight 175.
Two Points-First,the first plane crash was on closed circuit TV. Bush could not see it.(So he allready knew it was going to happen) Second-the book "My Pet Goat" he was reading was upside down which for most people would be damning. Maybe not Bush
You know, maybe the 2nd plane DID take down the building.
this video, taken by a manequin, may just be what we needed to " wake up "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...related&
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Check out the size of the plane. left side screen at 22 seconds-
George H.W. Bush, who was then Ronald Reagan's vice president: "I will never apologize for the United States of America. I don't care what the facts are," said Bush in response to the atrocity. British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher weighed in--Me To !
God ! must read this article-----http://www.antiwar.com/orig/
constantino.php?articleid=10913
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/52...gas_mileage_2x/
was just dumb luck it popped up after the fastest shooter video was done playing BUT... thats about a must see with the darn price of gas right now.. spam/post it around !!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...0507Privacy.htm
Bush Wants Phone Firms Immune to Privacy Suits
Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post
Friday May 04, 2007
-- uhh, howbout we tap all HIS phones and be immune to any regulation or retaliation, being its ALL LEGAL now, the decider said so !!
That's a great trick to add Acetone to your gas to increase milage, Sees Things. Thank you. 
POTUS learned of the 9-11 attacks on the Golf Course from Poppy, weeks if not months before 9-11. So of course on 9-11, he was allowed to read "My Pet Goat" and even a CBS news producer learned of the attacks before HE WAS NOTIFIED THAT THEY HAD TAKEN PLACE AS PLANNED, because he was on camera and really had no need to know of the exact time. The delay also illustrates that SEVERAL things went wrong with the plan, and he of all people needed to know the least of this at that time.
The reason why they were flying around is not because AF1 was a target; they always knew AF1 was not a target, but they were scrambling to "save the mission" and keep him incommunicado because of the failure of the Sarin cannisters in Flight 93 and having to blow it apart in the sky instead of having it hit the White House as originally planned. They wanted him out of the picture until they could concoct and dissemniate a revamped official story about Flight 93, which Rumsfeld himself slipped and admitted had been shot down.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/52...gas_mileage_2x/
help put it to the big oil, help yourself too.
Chris. The only way that I have thought of to avoid armed revolution is an online petition for citizens arrest of 911 suspects, and an agreement of the people to outlaw secrecy in the government- inclucing secret societies. We would need 51% of America to sign the petition, then we could get the military to back us in a march on Washington DC to perform the arrest. Unfortunately, I don't see this happening. But I've always got my guns, and a couple nuts. (smile)
Chris Jones. I was not trying to imply that every war America fights is just. In fact, it seems the only just war we ever fought was the Revolutionary War. That was the point I was making. America is a great and prosperous nation because men resisted tyranny. And it also helped that Canada is mild, and the Mexicans were our only hostile neighbors. However, all of the wars following the Spanish American were basically Illuminati deceptions. That is why we must join together to fight tyranny once more. Or there isn't going to be a future for the poor or the middle class. Unless it's one of rape, torture, surveillance, imprisonment, indentured servitude, genocide, and mass brainwashing.
THE OFFICIAL STORY.
The official story is that some people will do anything they can to avoid the truth. They will ignore FACTS. They will claim science, even though there are contradicting, or no real facts to support it. The question is, why?
PLAUSIBLE REASON #1: They WANT the official story to be true. People who fit this description are those who have a lot to lose, or who are benefiting in some form or another off of the current system, and or state of affairs. If they were forced to acknowledgment of the truth, then it would present extremely terrifying consequences for them. In the fact that they would have to acknowledge a renegade and wholly corrupted government, and would have no other recourse than to risk their lives in fulfilling their duty and responsibility to uphold the Constitution against known domestic enemies, and infiltrators of our government.
PLAUSIBLE REASON #2: They haven't researched the evidence enough. For whatever reason, and there are many, some people just have not done a thorough investigation from ALL sources and points of available view.
PLAUSIBLE REASON #3: They are just stupid. Yes, it's true. Some people are just stubborn, bullheaded idiots. Many people will believe WHATEVER THEY SEE OR READ in the mainstream media AS IF IT WERE THE PHYSICAL WORD OF GOD DESCENDING FROM THE SKY. They immediately believe that since they heard it from the mainstream media- it must be true! Other stupid people don't even UNDERSTAND WHY THEY SHOULD CARE, as they spend their time watching moronic tv shows, attending endless sporting events, going to numerous meaningless family functions, carousing, cavorting, watching porn, playing an excessive amount of video games, or doing any of the million things provided for us to become the mindless Gerbils indoctrinated into the total control and surveillance brainwashing Matrix.
PLAUSIBLE REASON #4: They truly believe the official story. This class of people is those who have done some research, and yet still find themselves supporting the official story. These people are extremely disturbing, in the respect that they will seem to present facts, science, times, data, logic, common sense, and sound reason. Although what they say can sound good, and or partially reasonable, upon careful scrutiny of their statements in relation to the known facts surrounding 911- Once again their entire thesis "Pancakes" like an unsupported house of cards blown by the stronger winds of truth, facts, diligent and thorough research, context clues, and sound logic.
PLAUSIBLE REASON #5: They are "IN ON IT". These people are part of the conspiracy. They may just have first or second hand knowledge of it, but for whatever reason refuse to go public. More so, however, are the perpetrators. This includes a wide list of sordid "characters". Treasonous politicians, secret society elitists, ultra wealthy globalists, demolitions crews, fake witnesses, unscrupulous business men, lying mainstream media culprits, CIA assets, etc. Why these people support the Official Story (And I stress STORY), should be self explanatory.
*WARNING*- If you should encounter any of these 5 classes of individuals, approach with extreme caution. Do not make any sudden gestures or movements. Refrain from actions which provoke agitation, or promote conflict. Attempt to engender and project a demeanor of sympathy, empathy, and compassion. When you reach an area of safety, immediately phone Alex Jones to report the incident.
Fastest Shooter ever.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/21...t_shooter_ever/
Gabe.
I agree Biblical David, is the most interesting in the old testiment. Unfortunetly he was backed by a famous profit,hand picked, and given full freedom in the Kings palace, even to the point of council and confidant.
We, the people of this land are not, this benefit is soley for the politicians in place.
The white house , the spearhead of the regime, to include its elititists, have not given and will not give citizens a second look in regards to their plans, and ongoing abomination.
Be assured, oue military is dispersed, therfor other means of control are needed should citizens hit hard times and revolt, or for that matter speak out against. The USA is their gem, their diamond, their treasure, the base to make fortunes. They will not allow a small percent of Citz. to endganger their profit, or to erode their power in any form.
They have sophisticated weaponry, and the manpower to use it.& They will.
If gov. Agents find my words illegal on fine day, they will have to end my life, I will not submit. However I would think seriously that a armed revolt would give these Elitists even more power over our citizens than they have now, power & control.
Armed confrontation by patriotic Americans could very well be their goal.
Grow up and read at least one history book about how many of your relatives and mine died from government in the last 100 yrs alone
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In responce, you attest to being an advocate of history and how and why Americans died fighting for this country within the past hundred years.
Fill me in will you, in Vietnam 4 million civilians were killed, 2M in the north and 2M in the south. Aproximetly 60,000 tropps (Americans sons killed also).
What for??? In retropspect almost each president warned us from Lincoln to Eisenhower the dangers of the MIC,( thats the companys that produce war machine and material that are necessary). It might suprise you to know that these corporations acquired fortunes. Including Mrs. Lydon B. Johnson who held the controlling interest of Sea and land Trailer shipping. About a1.8 Million per day. I was in Vietnam, I know good men who died during this war. They knew they were not there to protect America, they were there for the profits the elite gained from the war.
Iraq was invaded, a sovereign nation, 600,000 civilians died to date becasue of this, what was the reason, do you know? The search for WMD's, those laboratories for chemical destruction and nuclear. Those issues on the news each night, Collins and the regime were spouting about, despite the fact investigators prior to this move, never found evidence of any..There were none my freind. Then why are we there? Do you beleive we are protecting America from WMD's if none were found. I suggest you put asside for a moment you history books and think about money, power, and the act of control. a basic common sence few hours, add up the nuimbers and justify you oppinion. Our Gov. are basicaly wealthy individuals, who dominate our land and its people. Behind them a re the corp. Giants and the Elite. They do want the war in Iraq to go on as long as possible, fortunes and power are the works. The are the masters of human nature and use it to their own gain. We, are the peons, as I heard a congressmans say, the little people, commoners, pissants. in other words cannon fodder. History has been manipulted to serve the casue of whatever Gov. controls the content. Please, read between the lines, and search up presidential quotes, we were warned.
Keep in mind the innocents, the infants and children being turned into bloody rags, 600,000 now, justify this for me please, WMD's.
You are not the only citizen who has lost family in war, it could be its time to sk why, remember if there was no profit in war, there would be no war.
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And Jake. Attacking others, for whatever reason? What kind of 501c3 tax exempt "30 pieces of silver" Christian corporate drivel is that? This sort of PUSSIFIED diluted view of Christianity is exactly the format the New World Order has promoted. They want to brainwash society on a mass scale into believing that Christians should never resort to violence, be angry, or get involved.
The Bible is chalk full of heroes who stood up to evil. Was Samuel "The fucking enemy" when he hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord in Gilgal? Was David "The fucking enemy" when he slayed Goliath and tens of thousands of other evil men? What of Joshua? What of Gideon? What of Samson? What of Elijah? Did they not KILL?
God commands us to kill perpetrators of gross evil in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. I'm not talking about stoning the local prostitute either.
"Think not that I am come to destroy the Law,"- Jesus Christ
"The only thing necessary for evil men to prevail, is for good men to do nothing."- Edmund Burke
And by the way Jake, if you don't appreciate what the soldiers who fought, KILLED, and died did for you- then you should consider moving to a 3rd world communist dictatorship.
Jake. Trusting in Jesus does not mean that we just sit back and expect him to do everything for us. God gave you a brain to think. God gave you muscles to work. God made the tree, but we must pick the fruit. God gives you information to teach, so that you may learn, and plan. God gave (some of us) a good heart, so that we would love what is right, and despise the evil. God gives us the ability to acquire weapons, so that we may defend ourselves and the innocent (King David, sword/sling ring a bell?). The Bible is a call to action, not pacifism. Countless scriptural references to support.
Another poll on MSNBC where Ron's holding his own.
Live Vote
Who stood out from the pack? * 30945 responses Sam Brownback3.2% , Jim Gilmore1.6%, Rudy Giuliani17%, Mike Huckabee4.5%, Duncan Hunter2.3%, John McCain10%, Ron Paul27%, Mitt Romney27%, Tom Tancredo3.2%, Tommy Thompson4.2%
Who showed the most leadership qualities? * 30574 responses Sam Brownback3%, Jim Gilmore2.2%, Rudy Giuliani19%, Mike Huckabee4.4%, Duncan Hunter2.5%, John McCain14%, Ron Paul22%, Mitt Romney24%,
Tom Tancredo3%, Tommy Thompson4.4%
Who was the most convincing candidate? * 30439 responses Sam Brownback3.7%, Jim Gilmore2.1%, Rudy Giuliani17%, Mike Huckabee5.2%, Duncan Hunter2.6%, John McCain12%, Ron Paul25%, Mitt Romney25%, Tom Tancredo3.4%, Tommy Thompson4.6%
Who had the most rehearsed answers? * 29915 responses Sam Brownback4.8%,Jim Gilmore2%, Rudy Giuliani22%, Mike Huckabee2.9%, Duncan Hunter2.1%,John McCai30%, Ron Paul5.3%, Mitt Romney23%, Tom Tancredo2.8%, Tommy Thompson4.9%
Who avoided the questions? * 29041 responses
Sam Brownback6.6%,Jim Gilmore3.8%, Rudy Giuliani34%, Mike Huckabee3.9%, Duncan Hunter3.5%,John McCain18%, Ron Paul5.8%, Mitt Romney13%,Tom Tancredo4.7%,Tommy Thompson6.4%
Who had the best one-liner? * 29192 responses
Sam Brownback3.9%,Jim Gilmore2%, Rudy Giuliani15%, Mike Huckabee8.3%, Duncan Hunter2.7%,John McCain16%, Ron Paul23%, Mitt Romney18%,Tom Tancredo4.7%,Tommy Thompson6.2%
You do realize that when you find the truth, your ego must die? You do realize that when you talk about Jesus and getting your guns and survival rations ready, you are NOT trusting in Jesus, but in your own strength? You do realize that when you attack others, for whatever reason, you are the f**king enemy? You do realize that absolutely no one is secure in this world and everyboy's life is on the line? You do realize this stuff, right?
Thats why it's so important that everyone keep the vote up on him for these debates. They didn't even interview him afterwards. I couldn't believe it when Keith Olberman stated Ron Paul was leading the MSNBC poll, that's when I went and voted, and emailed everyone I know to do the same. The blog on their debate page is Hot for Ron 500 votes since my last post and Ron still at 41% no one is gaining. VOTE!!
For those of you who are still entertaining idiotic notions like, "It collapsed cause it couldn't hold the weight.", I would like to bring it to your attention that the same "weight" had been held every day since the towers were built.
Also, notice that the airplanes didn't even make the towers move an inch. There is no visual evidence of instability on the films. The towers were built to withstand earthquakes, and two airliner hits a piece.
Free fall speed?
50ft. demolition squibs visible 5 stories below the collapse line?
Multiple witness testimony of "explosions"?
An instantaneous Mt. st Helens like disintegrated dust wave?
Construction girders steel are formed at 2,700 degrees farenheit.
WTC7 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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First EVER collapses due to fire? In a few hours?
The only "PANCAKE" collapsing is the governments official lie.
Yah everyone seemed to love Mr. Paul on the internet. I'm glad. I know he or Mr. Gravel would be much better presidents than anyone else. But I just don't have much faith that either of them will be able to do anything until people are woken up. Just my opinion. I'm very happy tho that he is doing well. It pissed me off so much when I listened to moderator Chris Matthiews take on it afterwards and he didn't even mention Ron Pauls name. Those guys are trying so hard to ignore him or trip him up.
This Katrina video is pretty sick. Shows how clearly Bush wanted those people to die.
http://video.google.ca/
videoplay...un+confiscation
This seems like a good site. Up to date news on what our governments are and aren't doing.
http://www.freepressinternational.com/
BBC=NAZI
Kelly E. Griffin | 05.04.07 - 3:21 am | #
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Na mate, I'm just enjoying some recreation, and letting the Government Jism-swallowing bitches know, they are busted, and that their posting on a site above thier comprehension.
Wow ............not sure what else to say about such intelligent productine rhetoric.
It amazes why anyone wastes the time to argue with someone that posts as Anonymous?? I'm sure your the same Anonymous from England that just comes here and complains and trys to agitate truthseekers. What amazes me is your actually able to get under peoples skin that they waste such energy trying to argue with you much less resort to getting into a tongue lashing contest with you to see who can type worse insults at each other. Keep you focus people, the prize is to take the power back from the NWO.
Ron Paul is still holding at 41% Romney 33% Gulliani 22% McCain 20% Huckabee 17% closing in on 17,000 votes.
Anonymous | 05.04.07 - 3:09 am | #
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haha, did I hit home, you bitch, go back to hell, from where your were spawned, you spillage licker.
Or perhaps your IQ isn't high enough to be a Beelzebub Corperation spillage licker yet.
Loose change is the biggest piece of shit ever recorded!
They do not even have a clue. Retards!
Look it up. They dont know what they are talking about. Its all there. You have to see it for yourselves.
Screw loose change bitch. I think thats the name actually you blood cunt smellinmg cock whore son of a bitch bastard. Motherfucking piss ant wanker.
Those quiffs dont kknow shit!
Sucka born. Go fuck your mother. You dick licker.
How should a collapsign skyscraper look? Please explain it to me. Thanks.
Anonymous | 05.04.07 - 2:57 am | #
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You cunt bitch, and you smell.
Na, you go research, Dr Stephen Jones, the Film Loose Change 2nd edition.
That will answer all your bitch questions.
Insurgents 'right to take on US'
BBC
Thursday May 03, 2007
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Beelzebub Corporation, likes to use the term Insurgents.
Hey BBC, are you fucking stupid, They would be called,
FREEDOM-FIGHTERS
REBELS
IRAQI'S
CHILDREN
WOMEN
men
Do you get it you lieing fascist NAZI's
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/
theed...nspiracy_2.html
uuhh hey yea everyone. Heres a script of what going to happen. These are your cues. ok. Everyone got that....And never forget, dont tell anyone . he he he.
Use what God gave you between your shoulders for Christ's sake.
Free fall? ok mr. smartypants tell us how it should have looked. Please include as much detail as possible. Figures or calculations might be a nice start.
How should a collapsign skyscraper look? Please explain it to me. Thanks.
why? Why indeed.
When the top went so did everything else. It could not hold it.
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Are you some sort of cunt. You must be fucking stupid, then.
Why did the towers fall at freefall speed, as if you through a penny off the top? Derrrr.
Why are there blast shoots comming out of the sides of the building on its way down?
Why where there massive explosions heard from the base of the Trade Centre complex?
Why did Building 7 collapse at all?
And why did the BBC not report it to the massas, only talking about it on the day. Actually they reported the WTC7 collapse 1/2 hour before it collapsed.
I'll tell you why, because if people had seen that WTC7 building collapse on the day, everyone would have known on the day it was an inside job.
You must be a bitch who's bleeding, cos thats they sort of statement comming from a bitch.
You just provoking truth freedom fighters. You better pray to god you don't get discovered, cos the creature is the only one who will save you, you stinking bitch.
If you or anyone is going to say everything is fake or bs whats the point?
The buildings are 1.4 mile high. That is the weakest point. The top not the bottom.
When the top went so did everything else. It could not hold it.
They were viscious hits. Let me tell you. If you notice the tower that fell first took a much "better" hit. Like taking it in the chest instead of the head.
Anonymous | 05.04.07 - 12:49 am |
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Yes , the second hit does look vicious.From that one film. That one fim that has been 'missing in action' for 6 years. I am thinking Zapruder. I am thinking ' doctored '
Still, how do you explain the building falling into itself as if the plane had rammed into its base? (and would have had to ram at intervals all the way up the length of it too) look at the size of the rest of the building that was not damaged ? You cannot explain how it blew apart and into itself. Can't you see that most of the building is fine , even after the second impact? And the way it disintegrates and rolls downward as it is caving in, so much dust - how is that possible ? It's not.
These two fims just convinced me even more of what a bloody hoax 911 was.
I noticed on the last anniversary of 911 when they were airing the footage again that they kept showing only the parts that were on fire and they were showing it very close up , zooming in and holding it there like those buildings were only 20 stories high altogether. Its insulting .
Notice Ron Paul was the only candidate to not play on Reagan like the Media did all day
Another funny poll on CNN how many times Reagan was used, others had Gulliani with more than all others put together.
The 'Gipper' Ticker: 9:05 p.m. ET
An unofficial count of the number of times the candidates refer to "Ronald Reagan," "President Bush" or "The Reagan Library"
Ronald Reagan President Bush The Reagan LibraryGiuliani 4 0 0McCain 2 0 0Romney 2 1 1Brownback 1 0 1Paul 0 0 0Tancredo 1 1 0Thompson 3 0 0Gilmore 1 1 2Huckabee 1 1 1Hunter 1 0 0
-- CNN’s Cody Combs
Posted 5/03/2007 09:05:00 PM | Permalink
Someone's voting over 11000 votes and Ron Paul still at 43% to Romneys 35% at MSNBC. If if you don't beleve in either party anymore or just the Democratic Party it would be in everyones best interest to keep Ron Paul in the Media Limelight so they can't silence his message. If your really serious about fighting the NWO then take some action!!
In that first clip you can see the top portion tilt towards the left before the fore and smoke cover it up.
It was bad. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.
The buildings were huge, yes and tv doesnt exactly show the incredible amount of damage and impact that took place.
The fires were roughly 15-20 acres large. The context is scewed somewhat but these are two clips that you might want to take a look at.
The first one is rather rare from what the poster says, and ive never seen it until recently.
The second one was on local news and is slowed down. so you can break down what really went on when it hit.
Neither are longer than 2 mins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...related&
search=
and just to add, there are more "experts" on the other side of the fence.
They were viscious hits. Let me tell you. If you notice the tower that fell first took a much "better" hit. Like taking it in the chest instead of the head.
I just reposted comments from another comment area, as there seems to be more activity here. If you believe in fighting the NAU, Federal Reserve, and IRS, National ID cards, you need to go vote for Ron Paul now! 9000 votes Ron's holding @ 44% Romney still @ 34% We gotta keep him in the Medias eye so he can really get a chance to get the message out there. Time to step up to the plate and do what we can when we can.
Interestingly enough Ron Paul has the lowest Negative rating at 26% with Romney behind again at 36%, and Huckabee actually close here at 38%.
After you vote you have to click back on debate link, then back on Rate candidates link to get the updated vote counts. VOTE now!!
Its a hell of a way to learn and tell you what, there wont be many more highrises constructed in the way WTC was.
Anonymous | 05.03.07 - 11:27 pm
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Anon , I appreciate your kind ' tone' but I must tell you I don't trust it. You are trying the non-combative approach ?.
I watched hours of those planes hitting the building. I watched the fuel fireball away right after impact. Even if those planes were full of fuel , it would not have been plentiful enough to run down anything or the type of fuel hot enough to melt it after the burnoff.
Look at the size of that little plane in comparison to the huge structure . Even if the fireball didn't burn off most of the fuel .Sorry. Iam not buying. Common sense and a thousand experts won't let me.
http://www.grandtheftcountry.com...rs/
jetfuel.html
8000 Votes and RON PAUL is holding strong with 46% to 34% for Romney. VOTE @ MSNBC NOW
Every one needs to go to www.msnbc.com and go to the debate section and vote for Ron Paul. He was leading when I voted at just under 3000 votes by 39& to 38% fot Romney. By the time I left to come here he was leading 47% to 35% over Romney no one else was close at 7000 votes. Go to MSNBC click on the Debate link, click on the "Rate the Debate" link. You will have to log on or create a new account like I did to be able to vote. I sent a message to AJ tips line to put out a BREAKING NEWS article to get everyone on top of this ASAP so we can keep him in the top and get the message out.
God bless you all, and especally thank you to Marcianne for directing me to the CTC Cracking the code at www.losthorizons.com website for the best way to control our tax money and limit the governments spending.
Keep up the faith, Ron Paul can win in 2008.
Correction: "....and noT post the article itself?"
No problem Tim.
There are a growing number of hoaxers out there and fortunately we don't think like they do so ......
Those links seemed to like Ron Paul. Will check out Gravel though.
Wish I had been home to see the debate. I was out driving a money loan to a Dentist. The IRS took her money because she fell behind on her back - tax payments. A dentist. Her car was on empty and she was afraid to not get to work.
Somehow, somehow I just get the feeling that it is not what the founders had in mind for us.
Then to find this page full of government/911 appologists. There are no words for the rage inside of me right now.
Shit I even miss some of Wolf's posts...where's he been for so long?
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Hey, "Numbers", thanks for the "vote of confidence" ( I think? At least I've gotten one from one person, eh? , I've been around but negligent in checking to see when P.P. changed the link to Page 13 and then Page 14, so I was still posting to Page 12. I didn't think they'd change over to Pages 13 and now 14 so soon. Also, Kurt Nimmo hasn't had any articles I felt were worthy enough to post here since the last one I posted on Page 12; but it looks like I may post his latest one, dated today, after I finish reading it and checking it out. Of course, anyone reading this can "jump my gun" and go to it now if they want; I'll even help with a link to it; and perhaps if everyone is lucky, I will only give the link to it and now post the article itself? :p Cheers, everyone; and thank you for ending the attacks, I'm truly appreciative of that. ::
http://www.kurtnimmo.com/?p=854
ONLY True Peace,
Kells: It wasnt only fire. Hello is this thing on.
Anyone out there.
As for the 707 and multiple planes evidently he was mistaken, but in fairness peoples concerns were accidently being struck by a plane.
Not deliberate pedal to the medal.
I believe, not sure but I believe calculations were based on approach speeds or bad weather, fog, rain clouds type of things, these fucks had that shit floored. Also, again not sure but would like to know about fuel levels.
one more thing. The steel did not melt. It became hot enough to wilt and become pliable.
Ask any blacksmith how something is forged.
Once the above floors let go there was no stopping it. It was a massive, global structural
failure.
and by the way, they say a flak vest will stop most small arms fire--do you want to test it out?
Would you like to test out a cars airbags?
Its a hell of a way to learn and tell you what, there wont be many more highrises constructed in the way WTC was.
Sorry Kells, I guess that Ron Paul thing was a hoax. It looked like a credible source where I got it from too. I guess I should have read the his campaign letter I signed up on. Did any see the RNC debate tonight? I didn't think Mr. Paul did very well in the clip I saw. He was nervous and sitting on the fence in regards to the war. I think he's the best republican out there, but there is something that really bugs me about him. I think it's the fence sitting and the fact that he's putting the election ahead of publicly aligning himself with 9/11 Truth. Even if he won the election he won't be able to do shit until the majority of people are woken up. He'd be stonewalled at every turn if he doesn't mysteriously die of a heart attack first. He has his priorities backwards. 9/11 Truth first. Presidential campaign 2nd. Here is a clip and a review of his performance.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...rvative-values/
http://www.thebluestate.com/
2007...lue_state_.html
Meanwhile Mike Gravel is taking a different approach and talking about legalizing drugs and only talking about the war when asked, and he's clear about the military-industrial crap that's going on and we need to get out of the war. He seems much more confident. I don't know about his views on a lot of things yet, but he seems like he knows what he wants. I'm not so sure about Paul.
Professor Jonathan Barnett was a core member of the ASCE/FEMA Building Performance Assessment Team which concluded that fire alone could not have lead to the total collapse of the World Trade Center towers.
In the documentary World Trade Center: Anatomy of the Collapse, Jonathan Barnett, Professor of Fire Protection Engineering at the Worcester Polytechnic Institute states, "When steel is bare -- when it heats up -- it gets weaker. It's not that it melts in a fire, in fact, fires--normal fires--are not hot enough to melt steel. Even if you were, for example, to use an unusual fuel -- like kerosene -- you cannot achieve temperatures hot enough to melt steel." He then adds, "In over 20 years I have not seen -- until recently -- a protected steel structure that has collapsed in a fire."
Professor Barnett also appeared in PBS/Nova's Why The Towers Fell, and stated: "We have a long history of successful steel construction in this country and, in fact, the world. And one of the great successes is that under normal fire conditions we don't have building collapse. In fact, until 9/11, I was unaware of any protected steel structure that had collapsed anywhere in the world from just a fire."
(READ FEMA.gov: FEMA Publication 403, World Trade Center Building Performance Study: Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations )
Why ?
Because I bet on science, evidence and fact. Good luck Junior
pray.........
In regards to the Towers' immense solid steel construction, Frank A. DeMartini, Manager of WTC Construction & Project Management stated in an interview back in January 2001:
"The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners, because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door - this intense grid - and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting"
Frank DeMartini died on September 11th a hero. After accompanying his wife down 88 flights of stairs from his office in the North Tower, he went back up with fellow WTC worker Pablo Ortiz and rescued over 70 people. DeMartini and Ortiz - both 49 years of age - perished in the collapse of the North Tower.
http://www.grandtheftcountry.com.../
demartini.html
...it came crashing down because of the damage from the plane, which you people always omit when you say fire didnt bring those buildings down. its was a 170 ton, thats TON aircraft flying at approx 500 mph. Then the fire, shifted loads, weakening trusses bowing in of columns.
Thats why it collapsed.
and I read that link also, it was from a fire Chief with more years experience than you are probably onm this earth. I would take it with more than a grain.
Sure, I think I can help. The angle cuts were from iron workers after the collapse. They cut them to remove the debris.
The steel core came down with the rest. The collapse started because the outer support columns bowed inwards. This is clearly seen and documented andywhere from 25 inches up to 55 inches or thereabouts. It basically fell into itself and came crashing down. Dont forget it had a giant roof too.
And whats the beef with boxcutters? Are you a tough guy and take down 4 armed militants who were claiming to have a bomb as well.
Sure, we can just boooo science and say fuck the official report I know what happened.
I know, it sucks America took a nap and got fucked by some dipshits who dont like us. But lets blame the govt instead. Did you forget about wtc1(fake)Embassy bombings(fake) USS Cole(fake)
Binladen declaring war on america (fake) Calling us pussies who were unprepared to fight?(fake)
Killing US Marines(fake)
Yeah it fucking sucks and it sucks more it took this long to do something. I put (fake) to save you the trouble. And please, spare me your official story. Better yet, find me two ACT's that dont contradict eachother.
I bet on science, evidence and fact. Good luck Junior.
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I don't buy in to fires bringing down the towers and perhaps you can explain the photos of beams with angular cuts and hardened melted steel/slag.If fires caused the supposed pancake collapse what happened to the steel core?
Near free fall speed and total dessimation from top floor fires?Pleassssse spare me the official report, I have it in pdf.
You post a link to NIST?Sorry, I don't believe in fairy tales.
spam it to friends, post other places too
http://globalplantation.org/aj_radio/
Puis, les guh, pourquoi on commence un aut' page quand le douze n'est pas plein?
for people without radio, download and listen
http://globalplantation.org/aj_radio/
C'est plat les guh. Ou est les nouvelles? Qu'est ce que tout le monde a pense de la histoire de la Russe dont Alex a raconte aujourd'hui? C'etait bon. J'ai beaucoup appris. Alors...... qu'est on va faire? Un jeu?
This is much shorter. Please read.
http://vincentdunn.com/wtc.html
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Thanks for link but an unworthy read in my opinion.The word "probably" is used and no different than "should have".Pancake theory is used and discounted by many.
You shouldn't assume what I do or do not know.
I don't buy in to fires bringing down the towers and perhaps you can explain the photos of beams with angular cuts and hardened melted steel/slag.If fires caused the supposed pancake collapse what happened to the steel core?
Near free fall speed and total dessimation from top floor fires?Pleassssse spare me the official report, I have it in pdf.
You post a link to NIST?Sorry, I don't believe in fairy tales.
Osama did it, Saddam did it.Iraq had WMDs.19 highjacker with box cutters simultaneously took over four airliners,flew unhindered and hit three targets all in the same day.
And fires made three bulidings collapse.......into a tidy pile.
You believe what you want to and I'll believe what my instincts tell me.
AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH
Al Gore's 20 room private mansion uses 20 times the national US average of gas and electricity. As Gore lavishes himself in his heated swimming pool, poor people and the middle class await the onslaught of "carbon taxes" to eviscerate any disposable income they have left.
My brain feels like a 5 year olds etch-a-sketch.
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Ain't it the truth! Pol's? Worthless as tits on a Bull!
On the Bee decline. I'm wondering. Are the Bees colonizing back in the Wild?Leaving the pre -fabricated hives for more natural settings?
Maybe we aren't looking at a Bee die off. But a bee expansion? Has anyone taken the time to go look?
Because if these colonies are/have been growing in size? And their natural selection might have kicked in for a more natural setting.
Well? They have to go somewhere.
So, in conspiracy world 'I doubt it' means the View refuses to have someone on?
Read This http://www.digg.com/
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a.m.f'r
sounds like you have pinned up rage
i like it
the trick is
being smarter than the bank
im not that good
but it can be done
legally
bob dillinger had his day in the sun
baby face nelson
bonnie and clyde
the two guys in california in kevlar
Firstly I strongly believe the Bush regime along with Israeli and other intel agency's were behind 9/11.
However I believe that Bush was honest when he said he saw a plane crash into the tower before he went into the classroom. I believe it wasn't the first one though .... I believe it was actually the second one ... live though and he assumed it was the first one... remember Bush isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Andrew Card came over to let Bush know about the second plane hit after it was confirmed .
Slayed,
Check out the thread with jj and I and you will understand more about my thoughts and what is behind them:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../?
a=50431#71601
Interesting sane and it makes me understand where you come from better on things. Thanks. I still may be a doubting thomas but I have something to chew on for a day or so.
I will be back!
Page 299:
>>>>>>CONCLUSION
In his original foundations for the Bavarian Illuminati, officially instituted by Adam Weishaupt on May 1,1776, his stated purposes were good: "Princes and nations will disappear...Reason will be the only code of man." Weishaupt recognized no divine power outside of Man, and often referred to "...Nature and Nature's God".
The original purposes of the Declaration of Independence stated by Thomas Jefferson and other American revolutionaries, on Jury 4, 1776—only two months after Weishaupt's declaration—were good, also referring to "...Nature and Nature's God", just as Weishaupt had done.
The original purposes of Michael Bakunin, in the founding of his Internationale (the Alliance Internationale Sociale Democratique), in Switzerland, in 1864, was good...seeking an instrument to destroy the tyranny of the confiscatory state, and motivated by a genuine horror of his own experiences under despotism.
The original purposes of Theodor Hertzl, in calling together the first International Zionist Congress, of March, 1897, in Basle, Switzerland, were good, advocating that "...sovereignty be granted us over a portion of the globe large enough to satisfy the rightful requirements of a nation," intended by Hertzl to be guided by the individualistic premises of Friedrich Nietzsche.
The problem with these and similar endeavors, is that the Pseudo-Illuminati—by whatever name we know of it—lurks behind the scenes, more ruthless, powerful, and thorough than ever, always poised to take over and convert all organizations to its own use, in a manner diametrically opposite to its stated purposes. Organizations and movements originally intended to create a new religion of "reason and nature", were converted into ones for the mass psychological mind control of society, using religion, political mysticism and superstition to prohibit the higher development of mankind, to conceal technology, truth and higher knowledge, and to create and maintain a false economic dependence on Illuminati-controlled governments and the archaic technology of Illuminati industries. Meanwhile, the medical establishments and world health organizations are controlled and used to distribute and conceal population control methods developed and expedited by secret military weapons laboratories, so as to maintain world populations at "controllable levels". The Illuminati, hypocritically styling itself as the "...Bringer of Light and Knowledge...", preys upon the sincere beliefs of religious people, and promotes irrational, mystical, superstitious or exploitative ideas or means, contrary to what might have been initially good purposes, showing the consciously designed, sociopathic conspiracy to control the world through deceitfully planned ignorance, mysticism, dependency, and the promotion and exploitation of weakness.
Ethics, on the other hand, is something we are all born with, and projects outwards onto the world.
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Ok but being angry isn't the problem it is acting ugly while being angry.
slayed some dragons in my day | 05.03.07 - 4:54 pm | #
Guys, it is all here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6776/L...Pentagon-
Aliens
Page 299 and on
Ethics, on the other hand, is something we are all born with, and projects outwards onto the world.
107 | 05.03.07 - 4:50 pm | #
Ok but being angry isn't the problem it is acting ugly while being angry.
"To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." —Theodore Roosevelt
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Yo dude, fuck the catholic's and the prosies, I don't give a flying fuck, I want thier blood pissing out thier skulls, all of them.
Did you know the catholic church murdered 4 million women, just to stop women beleiving in thier intuition. If they knew something and couldn't scientifically prove it, they were labelled witches, and burned or drowned.
The men of the villages had to stop the PRIESTS, from murdering any more women, because they ran out of women to breed with. Also they killed all the pretty girls first.
And Morals, i don't give a fuck about, because thats just the outside projecting it's idea on my reality, which ain't no-ones business apart from my own.
Ethics, on the other hand, is something we are all born with, and projects outwards onto the world.
>>>>>> MILITARY UNCOVERS PLOT TO KILL IRAQI SCHOOLGIRLS BY BUILDING SCHOOL WITH EXPLOSIVES
Just on CNN, they are going to spin it as an Al Qaeda plot, but here are the facts. US taxpayers pay for rebuilding of what we bombed. Halliburton owns most of the contracts and they subcontract the deals for $0.10 on the dollar (or less-netting them min 90% profit).
So a contractor seems to have built a girls' school with munitions in the floors and walls, propane tanks with detonation wire, etc.
Watch this one get spun to Al Qaeda when at the very least it was lack of oversight by Halliburton that not only allows terrible buildings, but ones that now self destruct!
Big brother is making your information public
The Thrifty Scot
Thursday May 03, 2007
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Haha, I just fucked the Bank off out of it, for 30k.
It feels good.
So who gives a fuck about debt, go and steal it. thats the easiest way.
The banks are the biggest gangsters anyway, so fuck them. I hope they burn in hell.
I'm gonna petrol-bomb a high-street bank just for fun, that should piss them off. haha.
107 | 05.03.07 - 4:27 pm | #
Wow, your mad at them. Well, that helps THEM unless you can focus on what they have done you can prove. He who gets mad loses. Best to get FOCUSED. I suspect what you say has some plausability but I have very little proof in that direction.
If your convinced the Pope is evil it is best to focus on Christ's purpose for us here to be servants of our fellow man and to bring people to God through your leadership behaviour. Pissing off all Catholics (Methodist here) may not do a thing. Waking up the Catholics to the facts and using solid stuff like the whatever the percent of preists who have molested children, could save the world. I know it is not limited to the Catholics but I remember the famous priests Malichi Martin, an excorcist, clearly stated that people behind the late popes back were in open worship to satan in the halls of the Vatican itself. Now, I cannot say he was telling the truth but he sure was in a group I am willing to consider (preists who actually tried to rid the world of evil).
Maybe the following fits the situation.
"To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." —Theodore Roosevelt
Vatican Story on Rueters,
Fuck the pope, he's a saytan worshiper anyway, look at his demonic expression, and he sits in a chair with an upside down cross on it. And don't give us that bollox about st, peter being crusified upside down. No it means the POPE worships SATAN. period.
I can't wait for the catholic church to crash and burn in hell.
Hey pope what about the 200 million people murdered in wars in the 20th century then, and you get Reuters Lie Repeaters to do a spin story claiming your outrage, na fuck off you cunts all of you, go back to HELL from where you came.
I'll bash the pope in the face with my bat.
Re Jeff Hoon slags off Blair story, Daily [Lies] Mail, UK.
Who gives a shit what the Daily Lies says it's opion is.
Jeff Hoon says it should have been done different and " It was a bit optimistic expecting the Iraqi's to line the streets and do flag waving for the Invaders"
To answer Daily Lies, well the troops maybe shouldn't have bombed Iraq to kingdom come, then should they? There may actually have been some survivers except, when they see you bombing your own allies, they know not to go anywhere near the invading Nazi's.
But thats all besides the point. Bush sent the troops into Iraq supported by his Masonic mate Blair, because the Queen ordered them to do so.
They don't give a fuck about the Oil, which is of more value to them than a man's, woman's or child's life, no, they went in for a good killing, and to steal the treasures of ancient mesopatania, mainly the artifacts connected to a star-gate and Alien craft, plus I beleive they said the Nazi Americans and British, stole 10'000 pices of Iraq's treasure, and 250 have been accounted for.
So: Daily [Lies] Mail, this is a piece of journalism for you, more in tune with reality than the shit you spew out, you government cock suckers.
Vet:
the crack comment makes sense for a shill, now are you pretending to be honest or are you naive?
I am betting it is the former but hoping for the latter. We can work with naivety and very calmly too.
You did a nice job on the RFK story . . . and it's the story I most believe -- that RFK had a long time CIA insider serving the family and sent him in immediately and within 24 hours he came back with the report that it was a very powerful conspiracy and it couldn't be penetrated.
So, RFK knew immediately that it was a powerful domestic plot, protected by top leaders in America -- with LBJ taking office.
Btw, the 1992 JFK Classified Records Act put in place by Pres. Bill Clinton was the subject of a documentary by A&E/History Channel when it was advertising itself as the "network for the new millennia" -- and John Tunnheim appeared and announced that the conclusion of the Panel was that "OSWALD WAS EMPLOYED BY THE CIA WORKING ON HIGH LEVEL ASSIGNMENTS AND PROBABLY ALSO FOR THE FBI."
Twice -- as John Tunnheim spoke these words -- the text was repeated on screen.
After a few months, the documentary was seen no more.
And like the Madeline Brown -- mistress of LBJ -- series added to the "Men Who Killed Kennedy" -- evidently it will no longer been seen.
At the time of the JFK assassination, journalists naturally asked to see Oswald's IRS filings, pay receipts, etc. and that was denied. Presumably, the Tunnheim Panel did see this evidence.
slayed some dragons in my day | 05.03.07 - 1:46 pm
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You Sir, still have not explained to me why you are slamming me.
Are you confused?
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It would appear your the one thouroughly confused.
Let us see if we can help you out a tad bit.
I was not necessarily calling you out unless your subscribing to the lunacy the nightly news is passing off as fact. I was, however, taking a moment to put it out there that we should follow a certain criteria when evaluating our position. Thus the comment about "how" people think.
I do get the distinct feeling that your not on the up and up because you do seem to be on the attack with Viet nam vet. Hell, I don't know him and he may be a bit of a loose cannon compared to some, but I have observed a side of him that suggest he does have some real world experience and, I personally, respect all my fellow vet's even if I don't agree with them.
You appear to be disrespectful of your senior in the battlefield and that is not acceptable in my military. You might try being a tad more polite to people who have paved the road , so to speak, for an ungrateful poplulation like we had in the 60's and did the deeds of the elite only to realize we have been duped by them. Got it?
I suspect you did your duty and have not yet fully grasped this situation and when you do I am certain you will see the wizard behind the curtain. I, and others here, are willing to share what we can with you to clarify the gaps in your knowledge for the sake of the truth and for the sake of our US of A.
Further I am WILLING to consider your point of view in it's entirity. However, I do take offense at personal attacks verses data evaluation as you were doing to the Vietnam Vet.
I was lucky and did not have to go to Nam and I have learned they deserve a lot of respect, they earned it the hard way soldier.
You can pretend or even think your in the know but you have to demonstrate it to satisfy people here. We have seen enough, been exposed to the truth for so long while most have refused to even view the data, that we have elephant hide when it comes to all the doubting Thomas'. AND like and elephant we have long memories. We may not be photographic in our abilities but we certainly remember the essence of how they have been screwing around with society as it happened. We have avoided the pitfalls of the so called "news" by digging in and finding the real data that keeps being avoided in the media.
We have concluded they are not working for news per se but for their paycheck and MUST do what their boss dictates or suffer the consequences.
Now is there something in particular I missed you would like discussed w/o you implying I am not worthy to make observations?
Well how can the people fight those gas prices ?
Well without any viloence one way is showing the rich and powerfull they can keep there fuel we aren't buying it anymore. but we know that people will not want to be deprived of there car.This car is so important in there lives just as cell phones, but this would show Big brother he is on a collision course and his regime will fall. BUt they need to be forced to the truth and when humanity unites and starts boycutting the fosil fuels, the Neo cons are gona go crazy.Share holders will start bitting the nails in stress.
We can beat them it is a question of uniting in a commun cause, there isn't an easy way out people. The more we wait, less options will be available. Stop bying gas show them for once in your lives that Power goes with the People not governements and evil cabals.
Look at it this way : We are all going to die because no one understands the necessity of uniting agains't the Neo Cons, Many are still haging on what ever they own, but once they start taking it away bit by bit what will you have left? Guilt that is what will be left. NOt having reacted when it was time.
Shame on us all for refusing to wake up and Unite together agains't these evils people.
Maybe in the end we deserve to be slaves and lick the boots of the masters.Maybe we as a whole human species , value violence more than peace and love?
I guess this is the message we are showing by our spineless coward passive reactions.
Change can happen not only by violence but in ways that financially hurt the evil ones. But you love your material world and worship your belongings instead of the importance of freeing your spiritual values. It takes courage but saddly we must admit this is a quality that has died with the founding fathers.
HIt them in the wallet , they will fall.
Wake up people
We are running out of time.
Peace to those who value peace and love and do not worship evil.
i wouldn't be supprised if the honeybees are dying because of those experiments man makes like the atomic bomb radiation, and the HAARP radio frequency,the people that run the world don't care if people dies of hunger or diases,they just want to rule this world and make it theirs.
Wtf? I didn't post that twice.
Lawmakers divided over whether to keep U.S. troops in Iraq are finding common ground on at least one topic: They are furious that Iraqi politicians are considering a lengthy break this summer. "If they go off on vacation for two months while our troops fight — that would be the outrage of outrages," said Rep. Chris Shays, R-Conn.
The only outrage is the fact that if history can give a glimpse into the future then there will be approximately 150-200 American soldiers who will have had to fight and die for this Iraqi vacation.
DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05...to-texas-signs/
“Two years after writing a law requiring highway ‘Welcome to Texas’ signs to tout the state as the home of President Bush, state Rep. Ken Paxton [yesterday] passed a bill that will remove the designation once the 43rd president leaves office.”
"If they go off on vacation for two months while our troops fight — that would be the outrage of outrages,"
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If this is truly how they look at the situation in their Country, let us all go for picnic and wait until they see it fit to return and try to stop the manicures in their streets.
The entire world is waiting for your incite in the true wisdoms of the world.
Lawmakers divided over whether to keep U.S. troops in Iraq are finding common ground on at least one topic: They are furious that Iraqi politicians are considering a lengthy break this summer. "If they go off on vacation for two months while our troops fight — that would be the outrage of outrages," said Rep. Chris Shays, R-Conn.
The only outrage is the fact that if history can give a glimpse into the future then there will be approximately 150-200 American soldiers who will have had to fight and die for this Iraqi vacation.
Thank you again for providing us with this window into your world
we just observed the facts as best we can make them out
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Set the crack pipe down Man, it will get better.
You may think we are but in reality we started with NO DESIRE to follow this mess we just observed the facts as best we can make them out
slayed some dragons in my day | 05.03.07 - 1:46 pm | #
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Because of freedom you can insult me ... Thank you so much for providing us with this window of insight into your world! Best wishes
The State of Total Confusion
slayed some dragons in my day | 05.03.07 - 1:46 pm
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You Sir, still have not explained to me why you are slamming me.
Are you confused?
Did that sentence make sense to anyone here? You probably meant well, but considering you called someone out prior to that gobblygook you posted, I figured you had it coming.
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Nope, I should be slammed for that lack of editing.
But now it is time to move on!
What I probably should have stated is:
I could care less for what people think. I care HOW they think. To put it midly those of you who are pretending to be sincere and pretending to ACTAULLY research your point of view past what Fox news taught you to repeat, you should get a clue and follow the data without prejudice.
Prejudice of the data leads people to ignore facts and call them false even after the proof has been shown that clearly refutes the prejudiced point of view. I sense a tendency to call names and try to make people look silly instead of solid research.
You may think we are but in reality we started with NO DESIRE to follow this mess we just observed the facts as best we can make them out.
' nuff said on that.
For those who wonder what is driving us here I say this:
We see a pattern of denial that is common for people with their brain housing group located up their ass. You cannot see things while your eyes are looking at the wrong thing. Therefore find your way out of that dark tunnel and look around a little more. IF you bother to think for yourself and let your instinct lead you, instead of the Conservatively controlled media, you will first have a withdrawal like sympton and then, like a wave, realization is allowed to creep back into your conscience.
Do You Hate Me Now?
Go away Give me a chance to miss you
I am the silent intellectual. Now, rub your chin and look thoughtful
Kitty Kitty Kitty
240 rounds fired during march in LA. Not a single arrest. Many elderly were accosted and thrown to the ground. Now the LAPD is concerned that excessive force might have been used. Can I have the last 10 years of my life back please? I think I missed something. Since when has shooting hundreds of rounds (rubber bullets or gas regardless) into unarmed crowds without arresting anyone become deserving of only a 30 second highlight on the news? Prior to that, they spent an entire 5 minutes on "Al Quieda Militant Killed".
Does the Cat have your keyboard?
Fifth Amendment in the Bill of Rights, the right to refuse to answer ... The phrase "I plead the Fifth" is often used
slayed some dragons in my day
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Again I ask Sir, What is your point?
Thomas Jefferson:
Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
I will take smarts or heroism everyday, you can use both if your smart enough to be thinking like a 1st Sgt or at least observant enough to listen to their advice.
slayed some dragons in my day | 05.03.07 - 12:12 pm | #
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Did that sentence make sense to anyone here? You probably meant well, but considering you called someone out prior to that gobblygook you posted, I figured you had it coming.
Blessed is the man who, having nothing to stay, abstains from giving us worthy evidence of the fact.
"a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"
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Well done !!!
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Ignorance is also the state of being ignorant or uninformed.
slayed some dragons in my day
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What is your point?
If you have one.
RE: ABC’s Paul Harvey Compares ‘Women And Children’ Killed In Afghanistan To 9/11 Hijackers
"We didn’t come this far because we’re made of sugar candy. Once upon a time, we elbowed our way onto and across this continent by giving smallpox-infected blankets to Native Americans."
"And we grew prosperous. And yes, we greased the skids with the sweat of slaves."
"And hear this please. In Western Afghanistan, where NATO forces are involved in some of the deadliest fighting since January, among the 136 dead this morning suspect Taliban. But there are others, 51 villagers, mostly women and children. Might not the news media put a stop to such pulled punches wars as this, if we would just desist from categorizing civilians. It was civilians, for goodness sake, who decapitated New York City. Since the invention of the aerial bomb five wars ago, there have been no civilians."
This guy's maniacal view of our world is more dangerous than the nuclear missiles he worships, and he's got company: in 2005 he was given the presidential medal of freedom from Bush. We are not dealing with different intellects, ethics, opinions, values, etc...this is a struggle against complete insanity.
Dont worry my friends these morons who cant spend an hour and a half checking out the evidence of the truth about 911 being an inside job, will be the first to go to the camps, bow like slaves to their benevolent government and be weeded out by evolution. If you cant spend one hr and a half checking out the evidence, you are clearly a moron - period. Why dont you intellectual retards put up, or shut the hell up! You come back with a logical retort to the evidence, or you fuck off and jump off a cliff like a good lemming! We dont need scum attacking good people that are committed to YOUR freedom as well as their own.Grow up and read at least one history book about how many of your relatives and mine died from government in the last 100 yrs alone
What Gen Sir Michael Rose fails to understand is neither the British nor the American government care who wins this war. This is all about a handful of the richest people in the world making money. The oil companies are making the greatest profits of all times we never get the figures of how much the weapons manufacturers make out of these wars. Our government has no concern at the loss of life that is being inflicted on our soldiers they are serving their financial masters and they are going to draw this war out until public outrage forces its end. The Iraqi insurgents are being financed and armed by the same weapons of war manufacturers as we are just a different type of weaponry. The real terrorists are our government and the New World Order they serve. To put it simply they are using our tax dollars to both support terrorism and fight terrorism so that they can pass laws that take our freedom away and make the richest people in the world even richer.
Army, absolutely not Marine, you don't have the class.
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Are You a Marine, eh?
Wow buddy that would explain why you don't seem to know it's the other way around and it goes like this:
"Must be a Marine not Army you haven't the brains or the class!!!"
Sorry Marine buds of mine, but you know what they taught me when I was training is the dumbest thing in the battlefield? It is a MARINE who qaulified to CALL for FIRE. (Those who served know this means call in an airstrike or lots of artillery rounds). Idiots would call it right on top of themselves while engaged in a firefight. Me, I would not wait to call them in when there over a clik away!!! You see, you take em out! No waiting for the whites of thier eyes.
Shu Tzu stated it was good to survive and live today so you can fight the battle tomorrow!
I will take smarts or heroism everyday, you can use both if your smart enough to be thinking like a 1st Sgt or at least observant enough to listen to their advice.
The TRON story is a deliberate distraction....I suppose some will be taken in.......
ALERT ALERT!!!!! INFO TROOPS SCRAMBLE!!!!!
Homeland Security Classifies TRON as "Sensitive"
Government is Seizing all copies of the movie Tron!!!!!
"Edward Jeffries -- FPI
BURBANK, CA - Reports are emerging from members of the movie industry that the Department of Homeland Security has designated the 1982 film TRON as "sensitive", and ordered Walt Disney Studios to turn over all copies of the film in its posession. Retailers are also receiving notices to remove all copies of the film from stock shelves and turn them over to Federal officials. The reports have industry insiders bewildered and outraged. "
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/20...3/28/132751/
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GET THIS STORY UP ON PRISONPLANET.COM RIGHT NOW EMAIL ALEX AND PAUL!!!!!
ALERT ALERT!!!!!!!!
pretty old and almost dead right? Good.
Josen1
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Hopefully they all will die soon, and the sooner the better.
A good strong rope may help them along.
Good Heavens,
If 911 Towers and Bldg. 7 really did collapse into their own footprint at free fall speed because of jet-fueled plane crashes, Why oh Why are we still building these taller and taller skyscrapers if they are so vulnerable to airplanes?
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Darn good point.
We should reduce the hight of our buildings if 3000 people are going to die if the buildings catch on fire.
Paul Harvey is yet another ugly American among many in positions of power and influence. He is admiting and not in the least regretting that we as a nation used 'smallpox infested blankets' to take whatever we wanted from the native Americans. What a piece of shit....what the hell is this thinking? Death to all imperialists!!!!! America will only be destroyed from within not from outside enemies....and fucks like Harvey are only greasing the skids.....fuck him and people who think like him...America IS NOT a nation of conquering savages are we? We accuse every other culture of being exactly how these Harvey assholes are. He's pretty old and almost dead right? Good.
Josen1
It might be the end of troops blogging but it is also the begining of massive desertions from this evil military force.
The good humans are starting to let go of that brain washing and realise that what is right is to abandone the evil one's with there evil mission.
Peace and Love to all good humans of planet earth.
Ron Pauls comments on the spending bill.
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/ts...7/
tst043007.htm
9-11 was, without doubt, an inside job.
The tide is turning.
B.liar and Bush and all their other EVIL cohorts will swing for their hideous crimes one day.
Good Heavens,
If 911 Towers and Bldg. 7 really did collapse into their own footprint at free fall speed because of jet-fueled plane crashes, Why oh Why are we still building these taller and taller skyscrapers if they are so vulnerable to airplanes?
BG | Homepage | 05.01.07 - 8:40 pm | #
Yes, it's a conspiracy and it's bound to attract the usual suspects on here who are intent on dragging the thread down by attacking the messanger..well, how about dealing with the message?(end snip)
Yes, it is easy to slander, slur, insult, denigrate, etc. the messenger. Those who do so on threads, cannot argue a civil discourse of opinion.
The message is what I want to understand from the messenger, and even if I don't agree, I can learn from discussion.
Hunt admits conspiracy, JFK
Gents and ladies. Our Powerfull news media will not involve themselfs in this abomination, the truth to this murder will not be front page news, we can be certain of that.As Dan Rather put it, and I quote,( The news media needs a spine transplant). Feed them shit, tell them it is sugar syndrpme. MONEY POWER
Informed citizens were aware for decades our president was assassinated, and a element of the Ol Gov. was involved.
When JFK made it clear to the military 3 months before his assassination that he was intending on stopping the war in Vietnam. Certainly other factors were involved, however he defied the Elite and their dream of fortunes, to include the MIC. & the puppet masters.
In several countries bookies were taking bets on just how long JFK would survive.
The bullet that killed JFK wounded America mortaly, 911 buried this land and its freedoms.
The Iraq invasion destroyed whatever credibility remained that the USA, was a democratic Republic, that the USA adhered to its constitution, that the USA is the land of freedom and honor.
Do you trust the Ol Gov. Mr. peon, or should I say commoner, or pissant. I once beleived in this nation and I fought for it, to my chagrin I was deceived as was this nation.
Pay your taxes, wave your flags, be safe. This appears to be the concept of the general public. Speak of fear, speak of the ELite pulling the strings. They are masters of human nature and domination. It appears our regime resents morality and intelligence within the circle of the masses.
The UK people never wanted into this war. Everyone I have spoken to on this issue thinks we shouldn't be there and doesn't know why we are there.
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What is the link for the ogg's?
"But slowly but surely, the truth will be known. "
thats right bitch and your dads going to jail for JFK and your ass for 911,katrina,and fucking with our america!!!
House Fails to Overturn War Spending Veto
The 222-203 vote to override Bush's veto fell far short of the two-thirds needed...
-only says some 55% of congress isnt listening to the people
In a message delivered to the House before the vote, Bush said the vetoed bill was not only unacceptable to him but unconstitutional because it infringed on his powers as commander in chief.
-- it is NOT a presidential power to DECLARE war.
Bush also offered a more limited definition of success in Iraq, characterizing it as "sectarian violence down." He told the Associated General Contractors of America
--because opposing 'sects' might see a greater enemy in common ya damn chimp!! associated general contractors -- this wouldnt be blackwater mercenaries doing horrible things military isnt allowed to would it? is over 1/3 of the people from the US there..
Bush said. "And no matter how tempting it might be, it would be unforgivable for leaders in Washington to allow politics and impatience to stand in the way of protecting the American people. Success in this fight's going to be difficult. It will require sacrifice. It's going to require time."
whose politics and whose impatience? how are we protected when the constitution is gutted and the borders are wide open. we oughtta be wiretapping YOUR phones chimp boy!! and looking at the 45/55 split on that vote we know a normal impeachment would never happen. WTF you know about sacrifice chimp boy, sacrifice is great unless it's you personally? you need more sacrifices because you and youre buddies havent bankrupt the nation enough and there might be a half penny left to