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"Notice also his left-wing diverting - citing "Daily Kos" like it was credible or something"

http://www.myleftwing.com/showDi...o? diaryId=17528

Now "Kos" is not credible for two reasons, the first of which is being so-called "left-wing" (ie. wrong, perverse, perverse for its own sake and oh yeah jewish against Whites and the West).

Hold your nose when clicking that link - I never usually visit leftist sites for two reasons - I can't physically stand any more of their lies and "we're the good guys" affectation, also if I want leftist propaganda I'll watch TV, movies, buy a magazine (any one) or a "news" paper. The net is for truthists, not the ever-mendacious, conceited and sefl-deluding "left-wingers" ie. wrong-heads.

"Left-wing" is a mental illness and also the jewish psychosis in disguise. Abolish it.


Some "conspiracy theorist". You're a zionist disinfo agent pure and simple.
Commenter | 07.18.07 - 6:47 pm | #

Look it up since you have 100,000% more wisdom then me. How do you think so many Nazi's got into IDF?????


"If I am a ex-Nazi Mossad agent, then Dick Cheney is the second comming of jesus"

The MOSSAD are "ex-Nazis" now? HAHAHAHA!

Nice try at attempting to make my comments appear ridiculous by way of your super-ridiculous exaggeration about Cheney and Jesus (whatever that was about - you're making sense to nobody outsied yourslef now.)

You're so desperate it's funny - only a jew could tell so brazenly stupid a lie and expect to be taken seriously. Israel is NEVER guilty in your world.

Some "conspiracy theorist". You're a zionist disinfo agent pure and simple.


masters of verbal abuse, nice. Here is more verbal abuse for ya:


CHENEY: You want answers?

911 TRUTHER: I think I'm entitled to them.

CHENEY: You want answers?

911 TRUTHER: I want the truth!

CHENEY: You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has terrorists. And those terrorists have to be killed by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You Ron Paul? You Dennis Kucinich? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for the 9/11 victims and you curse the Black Ops that pulled off 9/11. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that 3,000 deaths on 9/11, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me in that bunker. You need me in that bunker. We use words like terrorists, fear, "by any means necessary"...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent raking in energy and military profits. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very stellar corporate profits I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you read AEI propaganda and be a FOXNews pundit. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!

911 TRUTHER: Did you give the stand down order?

CHENEY: (quietly) I did the job Rockefeller sent me to do.

911 TRUTHER: Did you give the stand down order?

CHENEY: You're goddamn right I did!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...h? v=8hGvQtumNAY

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"notice how jewish groups can compare 9-11 truthers to nazis with impunity. they are masters at verbal abuse. they are spiritual bullies. remember the words of St. Paul about the Jews:
1 Thessalonians 2:15 "who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to all men"
Michael Korn | Homepage | 05.04.07 - 2:08 pm | #

I do not believe that Joe "dead intern in the office" Scarborough, Bill O'Reilly, Cheney go to temple. Can't see the connection, you might be way off track.
sane"

HE'S AT IT AGAIN! Anyone who points out the jewish nature of NWO immediatley gets attacked by - ahem - "sane", who promtly reels off a list of gentile puppets, never neglecting his Cheney obsession.

Sane = Mossad/CIA.

Notice also his left-wing diverting - citing "Daily Kos" like it was credible or something.

"they are masters at verbal abuse. they are spiritual bullies"

Great post, excellent description.
Commenter | 07.12.07 - 8:03 pm | #
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If I am a ex-Nazi Mossad agent, then Dick Cheney is the second comming of jesus


"notice how jewish groups can compare 9-11 truthers to nazis with impunity. they are masters at verbal abuse. they are spiritual bullies. remember the words of St. Paul about the Jews:
1 Thessalonians 2:15 "who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to all men"
Michael Korn | Homepage | 05.04.07 - 2:08 pm | #

I do not believe that Joe "dead intern in the office" Scarborough, Bill O'Reilly, Cheney go to temple. Can't see the connection, you might be way off track.
sane"

HE'S AT IT AGAIN! Anyone who points out the jewish nature of NWO immediatley gets attacked by - ahem - "sane", who promtly reels off a list of gentile puppets, never neglecting his Cheney obsession.

Sane = Mossad/CIA.

Notice also his left-wing diverting - citing "Daily Kos" like it was credible or something.

"they are masters at verbal abuse. they are spiritual bullies"

Great post, excellent description.


"Some years ago I walked into HMV Oxford Street. I wandered around rack upon rack of thousands upon thousands of CDs. There must have been every form of music that ever existed there. I wanted something new. Something that would make me go, 'Yeah, this is it. I've never heard anything like this in my life.' There have been so many times when I have read a review of an album telling me how great it was so I would go out and buy it, only to get it home to find it sounded like something I had already heard."

All rock stars are mindless left-wing conformists/system careerists. See Live Earth? (I mean figuratively, I deliberately didn't watch). They'll never live it down. I'll never buy a CD again, commie bastards.

"I swear to God, my life is like some kind of X-File. Is there any one left in the world who isn't selling out? I live in an episode of the Twilight Zone. I feel like like Jim Carey in "Truman". Does any one have the courage to do the right thing any more? To take a stand?"

You're not alone in feeling that frustration. I's amazing how far they've managed to go and how unresistant (though unwilling) the public are. I blame TV personally. I think an unhypnotised public would've revolted by now. Zombified, like cattle stunned pre-slaughter they all are! Flashy distractions help too - like the zombie's in commie Romero's "Land of the Dead".


Has Prison Planet been hacked? There are odd out of place links to no911conpsiracy.com and some pro war sites?


Buddha, who was originally born Prince "Sidharta Gautama", said before he died that he was not the savior- and not to worship him. He seemed like a good guy though. To give up all that luxury and go seek enlightenment as a peasant. Buddhist monks don't strike me as "violent world domination" types either. I got no beef with them. They're temples and rituals are weird shit though.


Thanks Gabriel for that tidbit on the B.E.A.S.T.
So it's either gonna be the tattoo or the microchip.

Christ never came to earth to start a new religion and hence i would not refer to His teachings as "Christianity" (which what the 501c3 certified Mammonite churches today). So is it any wonder that many if not most these Protestant/Evangelicals see this $ataniSt, ehr... i mean this fine upstanding Bush-whacker as a Bible believing Christian? .

The only truth about a Pre-Trib Rapture is when NA$A unleashes its perfected holographic light show, aka Project Blue Beam in the sky some day with the faces of "Jesus", Mohammed, Buddha in their respective regions to explain to us "religionists" that we all got it wrong concerning their teachings. And how this New World Order New Age Christ will show us the way to real enlightment, as some sorta avatar or ascended master.

Brothers buckle up and have full of faith in the true Lord. It' going to be one heck of storm to weather.
In the mean time, may i recommend for your reading pleasure Foxe's Book on Martyrs?


Check the dates.
I know this page is prehistoric by now, but so what. I will check in now and then awaiting spout from daring upstarts.


Oh yeah, meant to say that it looks as though most have moved up to 16........


Gabriel, thanks for the info on the beast company, never heard of that before, ought to search it for more info.
I've been in arguments with my old pastor over the rapture. Pompous idiot.


Truthseeker and Michael D.
I agree with you. In fact, Daniel chapters 11 and 12 clearly specify that the "deliverance" does not occur until after the death of the anti-Christ, in the hour of our greatest tribulations. The gospels also confirm this, and the Revelation (Beast makes war with the saints, chapter 13). The 13th chapter of Revelation is when the beast arises to full power- which is the "Fourth kingdom" upon the Earth, diverse from all others, treading down the entire world (Daniel). They saints will be persecuted, imprisoned, and some killed by flame or the sword(figurative for militarily).
The mark of the Beast is literal. It will be some evolution of the electronic "tattoo" for ID. The name of the main lab facility for the development of this technology is visible upon it's rooftop. The word Beast stands for Biometric Engineering Advanced Science and Technologies. Could it be any more obvious?
Pre-trib rapture is a sugar coated lie promoted by the false sheperds of the corporate Christian brainwashing conglomerate. Any Church that has bowed their knee to the 501c3 tax exemption agreement has taken the Judas "30 pieces of silver". TBN, Rhema Bible College, Casey Treat- they are all the same. If the pastors of America had truly done their duty to God and country- then we would not currently be in this New World Order mess. I rebuke them all. Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus command us to finance a "building", herd sheeple into it, fleece them for their cash regularly, and promote the false notion that salvation can only be achieved by going to Church.
However, Jesus did stress what he did feel was important to the Pharisees when he berated them for their hypocrisies, sins, and rituals. And of course Jesus stressed kindness, forgiveness, truth, etc. Thus- let us not pervert the simplicity that is in Christ.
Christ commands the armies of the heavens, which very well could include fleets of "UFO's". Perhaps these will aid in gathering the elect off of the Earth from the four winds............
Organized religion was NOT the creation of Christ. We must challenge misguided authority, Biblically unsupported teachings, and vain pointless doctrines. We have but one authority, God- through Emmanuel, Messiah, Jesus Christ. We are of the Father, and we hear his words.


From "the Truth believers"
By Christine G.K. LaPado 5/11/07

"...Mills has been a professor of civil engineering at Chico State for the past 25 years...."

Engineering professors and the university departments that employ them are highly dependent on government grants. Engineering is a regulated profession with licensing required for many activities (profs. need not be licensed). It is better journalism to disclose Prof. Mills' reliance on government grants, if any, and his university department's reliance on government grants, if any. If none, then state so.

Thanks.


No rapture, the true test of faith will be to die by gilotine, to renounce satan unto death. There will be no rapture.
The rapture is occuring now, the finest people I know are dying all around us.........


AMEN, Gabriel! VERY well said!

Rail cars with guillotines...GUILLOTINES--the future instrument of choice for execution by the NWO $atani$t$.
Looks like the Bible is no longer a "book of fables' or "old wives tales".

The one group that they have singled out that seperates them from all other "Resisters" groups are the true Biblical believers who will not sell out to to the Beast system. Rev.20 speaks of these steadfast and faithful who refuse to bow before Beast/Mammon (Antichrist). Heads will roll! Sorry but there won't be any (Pre-Trib) Rapture.


I swear to God, my life is like some kind of X-File. Is there any one left in the world who isn't selling out? I live in an episode of the Twilight Zone. I feel like like Jim Carey in "Truman". Does any one have the courage to do the right thing any more? To take a stand?
Here is a perfect example of twisted thinking. I guess it is OK in the minds of the public majority to fight wars for any number of limp or false reasons, and kill innocent civilians wholesale by the thousands. But it's strangely "inapropriate" to wage war against evil, corruption, and tyranny in our own government?
Let me ask you people something. If this is supposedly a government "Of the people, by the people, and for the people.", then when was the last time that "we the people" cleaned house at home- instead of running around the world playing "Globocop"? Clearly this is no longer a government of the people.
How dare they speak to me about "family values". Don't you think it's kind of odd that they can CRAM whatever bullshit laws down our freedom loving pie holes no matter what we say or do- and yet not a whisper from our beloved government about a multi billion dollar demoralizing mind perverting pornography empire?
People from the "old school" used to fight for Biblical values as if their lives depended upon it. But what do we get today- FALSE CHRISTIANITY. What is a false Christian Church? ANY CHURCH that has complied with the 501c3 tax exemption status regulations. Which is about 99% of the Churches in this country. They all took the 30 pieces of silver. If the pastors of America had truly done their DUTY TO GOD, we would not be in this mess. I rebuke them all!!! TBN, Rhema, all of the "Corporate Christians".
John The Baptist, nor any of the saints, heroes, or prophets of the old testament or new would ever have agreed to the 501c3!!!!!!!

501c3- "Grants tax exempt status to Churches on condition that they do not speak out against the government. And that they do not endorse or oppose any political candidates."


Our world is turning into one giant lump of shit. I haven't seen one shred of honesty or decency in the mainstream since longer than I can remember. All our government does is operate in secrecy and lie to us about every fucking thing under the sun. Please forgive me, but it has been quite some time since I have treated myself to a legitimate quality "rant".
I'm just so fucking sick of it all. Ron Paul is getting fucked over by the New World Order sell out Satanic dick lickers. Old lady's are getting murdered by lying police, who then plant drugs on them. Kids are killing each other over a video game. Global warmers are masturbating their pathetic brain dead brainwashed trash, more non violent offenders in prison for trivial shit like drugs ( which we know damn well the CIA traffics in) and are then severely mistreated by self hating sadistic guards. The police of America are mindless robotic idiots trying to make Friday quota by harassing and beating down people for almost nothing. Children are bombarded with subliminal hopelessness and sensationalism with no love or spiritual substance. Nobody has a fucking clue what's going on in our own "peoples government" anymore. Enslavement executive orders and concentration camps for "dissenters" against the NWO built with our damn money. Rail cars outfitted with guillotines. Child rape rings run by Satanists in collusion with the CIA for slimy politicians and sleazy warped business men. MK Ultra, Monarch, child sacrifice, infant mutilation and rape, human sacrifice, mind control.

Can we get justice. Fuck no. NOT FROM A JUDICIAL SYSTEM CLOGGED WITH FREEMASON SCUM.

THERE IS A HELL. BUT IT DOESN'T BURN HOT ENOUGH FOR THE TREASONOUS NWO, THEIR POLITICIAN BITCHES, AND THE CORPORATE MEDIA PROPAGANDA SPIN CYCLE PAID LIARS.

ALL LIARS SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE OF FIRE.- Revelation 21: 8 (Have a smokin' good time FOX)

Quit playing with the "idiot box" and log on to www.infowars.com or www.prisonplanet.com and listen live daily. We have people to kill.


on Jewish Group Behaving Like Nazis In Trying To Get Dobbs Fired

i was raised that i can talk about anything or any body any time any where in my country that is not going to change never in my mind


bullshit propaganda documentary on the history channel about 9-11. Fabrications and stories, very little facts........bullshit


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

May 8, 2007

ARLINGTON, VA – Congressman Ron Paul's support has soared since the first Republican presidential debate. Conservative commentator John McLaughlin, host of “The McLaughlin Group," cited Ron Paul as having given "the best performance of the debate." In fact, the Paul campaign's apparent strength has many other pundits scrambling to explain it. Paul campaign officials offer the following examples of the candidate's rising success.

Since the debate on May 3, Ron Paul:

1. Handily won two post-debate polls posted by event sponsor MSNBC.

2. Placed a close third (18%) in a post-debate poll on the conservative Drudge Report.

3. Won an ABCNews.com online debate poll with 84%.

4. Won a C-SPAN online GOP candidate poll with 69%.

5. Became the third most-mentioned person in the blogosphere, beating out Paris Hilton, according to the reputable Technorati.com.

6. Produced a YouTube.com video that was ranked the 8th most popular overall video, and the most-viewed political video.

7. Was featured, by popular demand, on the front of Digg.com.

8. Generated so many bulletin posts on MySpace.com that the site owner News Corp. blocked all additional posts about Dr. Paul.

9. Became a "most searched" term on Google and Yahoo!.

10. Saw a quadrupling of daily visitors to RonPaul2008.com.

"These figures speak for themselves," said campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "Ron Paul has quickly become a strong contender for the GOP nomination because of his powerful message of freedom and limited government."

-30-

http://www.ronpaul2008.com


Oh I'm soooooooooo happy. In this interview with Tucker Carlson, Ron Paul says that war is not conservative. And Tucker agreed. Thank you Lord.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...9c%2D41af% 2D99a


global warming hysteria:



The London Times reports today that a report to be published by green think tank the Optimum Population Trust says that children are 'bad for planet and 'having large families should be frowned upon as an environmental misdemeanour in the same way as frequent long-haul flights, driving a big car and failing to reuse plastic bags.

The paper will say that if couples had two children instead of three they could cut their family's carbon dioxide output by the equivalent of 620 return flights a year between London and New York.

these kids must have volcano's for butts right ?


The Manifesto
Silence is Golden - or for at least one day


Some years ago I walked into HMV Oxford Street. I wandered around rack upon rack of thousands upon thousands of CDs. There must have been every form of music that ever existed there. I wanted something new. Something that would make me go, 'Yeah, this is it. I've never heard anything like this in my life.' There have been so many times when I have read a review of an album telling me how great it was so I would go out and buy it, only to get it home to find it sounded like something I had already heard.
It,s called BS.


Just thought I’d start with a thought provoking post, which has really been probing my mind for quite sometime now. Obviously, you know what this post is about and after reading this, I want to you think for sometime and then comment. It is a well known fact that every single human lies, if you don’t you probably aren’t human
We all lie in various different situations, due to various reasons, leading to various consequences and ofcourse, we always justify our lies. But half the times, our lies are absolutely unnecessary. I’ve found it easier to keep mum during certain circumstances other than utter a simple statement, which may turn out to be a lie or is a lie.
“The naked truth is always better than the best dressed lie.“


Yah its crazy isn't it. I was laughing at first. But this is the shit we are up against. This is the ignorance that will allow WWIII to begin. Sigh.


DUMB...DUMBER...DUMBEST...UBER DUMBEST...MEGA UBER DUMBEST...GOOD Grief!!!! This is what pi$$es me off about America.
And these are the very same kind of people that laugh at you when telling them that 911 was an in$ide job? They don't even now some basic facts on 911. No don't ask questions just believe what your beloved government tells you at face value.
These military people should be ashamed of themselves with their attitude of indifference.
Yeah just as long as the "collateral damage" aren't Americans, right? So it seems perfectly alright that even is this so called war on terrorism was waged on false premises? Don't question your military superiors, fight and "defend the Constitution" WTF???. And America asks "why do they hate us?" Ok, thank you for listening... you can go back to watching Dancing with the Stars or Desperate Housewives. Don't worry. You're in good hands America. Your beloved and trusted government will keep you abreast of the latest on this war on terrorism and will do their utmost to prevent another September 11.
http://www.ebolaworld.com


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...0507MySpace.htm

about myspace cutting out anything about ron paul and myspace being rupert murdoch. theyre asking that others try to verify this the case.


With God as my witness, I am a truther.
I was just having some fun with you blogs.
I for sure love Ya and support Ya.
Vet. | 05.08.07 - 9:19 am
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As God is my witness , you need to find some other means of recreation and showing love.


OMG this is too funny. I don't think Canadians would do much better. The only guys who came close to understanding anything were the guy who said the moon landings were fake and Al-Qaeda is an arm of the Masons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h? v=fJuNgBkloFE


NewConstitution-
chris, seethings, sane, others. Have a Nice day. I don't have time for this kind of stupid shit. Take care!
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.08.07 - 8:52 am |
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NewConstitution-
I need to speak to you. Please email me
kells_marie@yahoo.com


Verizon says phone record disclosure is protected free speech

Nate Anderson
Ars Technica
Tuesday May 08, 2007

Verizon is one of the phone companies currently being sued over its alleged disclosure of customer phone records to the NSA. In a response to the court last week, the company asked for the entire consolidated case against it to be thrown out—on free speech grounds

records of who contacts who, I dont understand that of itself as much a problem, date and time of connections is just standard information. recording the content of the calls, to me is invasive and an entirely different matter.


With God as my witness, I am a truther.
I was just having some fun with you blogs.
I for sure love Ya and support Ya.


....OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!"


still waiting for condoleeza to be cuffed and stuffed for ignoring a subpoena


Chris J.--- forgot to sign in...c'est moi


Doolittle: FBI leaked news of raid to take heat off Gonzales

Nick Juliano
Raw Story
Monday May 07, 2007

Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA), who has been under a cloud of suspicion related to his association with convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff, says the leak revealing that the FBI had raided his home last month in connection with an investigation of his wife's business was little more than a stunt to draw attention away from the investigation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales

looks like billy clinton games with wifee running rose lawfirm setting up tyson chicken to be a money laundering tool for coke shipments thru mena... ohhh MONICA !!!


Well, I must say it is Irishman in me to pick a fight.
I love you guys.
And it was fun pissen you off. Have a good day you guys.
Love Ya Vet


Chris J.---actually Nero plucked on a lyre while he composed a song to accompany the burning of his city. The Christians were blamed as they lived in the poorest part of the city, where the buildings were all made of wood, and where the fires are said to have started. But it was well-known in Rome that Nero had the fires set in order to raze the old Rome and rebuild it as 'Neropolis". Blaming it on the Christians wasn't much more than an afterthought for Nero. Rome began as a Republic but reached her zenith as an Empire. i think America is now in that transitional stage between Republic and Empire and i guess that would make George W. our Nero. What was Nero but a self-absorbed, self-aggrandizing, self-destructive nincompoop?


nd a fine good morning to you Mister Joe Cortez,
Do you have something to say to me Sir?


Sees Things
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If you see so Goddamn much, why don't you do something about it?
Vet. | 05.08.07 - 8:57 am | #

ROFL only proves what I said before...


come on vet , make a political opinion statement or comment on a story from the PP site.
being here says it has youre interest somehow
for whatever reason.
Sees Things | 05.08.07 - 8:08 am | #
near an hour later hasnt said anything yet, just here scrappin like a yahoo chatroom kiddie.. too busy playing here to read some news and comment?


NewConstitutionIowaMilitia.
Did the truth hit a little home there cowboy?
Sorry about your luck.


(Yawn...) Oh look everyone, vet's better than everyone else on the forum.

Ahem... WE use "someone else's" forum?

Why, fancy seeing YOU here, sir...


Sees Things
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If you see so Goddamn much, why don't you do something about it?


This is unbelievable.
When I say it is wrong for you attack people on this site is an Il-goten idea , I am Il-gotten!
Vet. | 05.08.07 - 8:53 am | #

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You don't have a Pot to piss in!


t have time for this kind of stupid shit
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The truth hurts like hell doesn't it?


yes it ties to religion and exposes some truth on that, and illuminati, and rothschilds, etc etc ..
also a lot on 911 and false flag terrorism too.
sure wish AJ could help offer it and maybe cheaper than the 40 bucks they ask, shamelessly plugging it again lol.. but its that good !!


our ill-gotten ideals?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.08.07 - 8:47 am |
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This is unbelievable.
When I say it is wrong for you attack people on this site is an Il-goten idea , I am Il-gotten!


chris, seethings, sane, others. Have a Nice day. I don't have time for this kind of stupid shit. Take care!


newconst--
you ever look into getting
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/ ..._details_66.htm
the clarity of this 5 hr documentary pretty amazing
Sees Things | 05.08.07 - 8:47 am | #

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Thanks. But I've studied a lot about religion, etc. I know there's a God. i know/understand, what types of people are using religion for their own evil ideals.


OH, Please In-lighten me.
Vet. | 05.08.07 - 8:45 am | #

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I don't have the time. And one must have ears to listen to learn anything. So ? what's the point In me exerting any of My own energy to try to sway your ill-gotten ideals?


newconst--
you ever look into getting
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/ ..._details_66.htm
the clarity of this 5 hr documentary pretty amazing


I've probably forgotten more than you'll ever learn.............
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.08.07 - 8:35 am | #
What does it take to say you are the BLOG King?
What does it take to say only your concept of reality is real?
OH, Please In-lighten me.


What should I do to Warship you?
Vet. | 05.08.07 - 8:42 am | #

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I don't want anyone to worship me. Worship your creator . Did I ever lay claims to wanting worshipped? NOPE? Are you creating your own reality now> Go take your Meds!


funny to see someone claiming others attack people who proceed to busy it up themselves attacking people, they jump in attacking, get slapped a bit for it, then use that to claim people attack them and others, masochism at its finest lol
Sees Things | 05.08.07 - 8:41 am | #

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Good point, That's why I'm having fun wit it.: O )


What should I do to Warship you?


funny to see someone claiming others attack people who proceed to busy it up themselves attacking people, they jump in attacking, get slapped a bit for it, then use that to claim people attack them and others, masochism at its finest lol


I've probably forgotten more than you'll ever learn.............
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.08.07 - 8:35 am | #
Oh, You are the man.


I am so impressed.
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I don't care.: O )


Unconstitutionally. The US Government. Without the knowlegde of the common people. Set up a trust system. That left the people servants, to their own debt. Debt created by government.


I've probably forgotten more than you'll ever learn.............
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.08.07 - 8:35 am | #
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I am so impressed.


I've probably forgotten more than you'll ever learn.............
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.08.07 - 8:35 am | #
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I have seen that in your writings.


Was it nero who played his fiddle while Rome was burning.
An example of, I dont not beleive it happening,or it can't happen here, not in Rome, this is Rome, no way. Be it a illusion,a mental block, conditioning, brainwashing, patiotism that is blind, ego, we are allways right, or simply dont rock the boat,or maby Bubbles are safer to live in than the reality.
Rome, a example of course, The USA a reality. The media rant is support our troops. For the love of Gog, they are Americas sons and daughters, support them yes, bring them back to their families. This is the Regimes Las Vegas,profits by the billions for them, debit to the citizens, close it down. Get honest with your selfs.
This country has ideals and a base, they have been trampled on, if the chest pounders want a war lets send them to the planet of the apes.
No kidding, it is ludicros, put asside 911, the medai tied that one in a knot for now. How about WMD's. How about 600,000 innocent human being killed, and our young sons. How about money, we are bankrupt.
Cant the bubbles see that our land has been taken over by the elite, that the ideals of America are in the toilet. That these bloodsuckers in control are tearing down our Republic for profit and power.
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Yepper. If you dig into treaties that the US has made. You'll find that currently. Americans submit to eccestial law under the Pope and England


Was it nero who played his fiddle while Rome was burning.
An example of, I dont not beleive it happening,or it can't happen here, not in Rome, this is Rome, no way. Be it a illusion,a mental block, conditioning, brainwashing, patiotism that is blind, ego, we are allways right, or simply dont rock the boat,or maby Bubbles are safer to live in than the reality.
Rome, a example of course, The USA a reality. The media rant is support our troops. For the love of Gog, they are Americas sons and daughters, support them yes, bring them back to their families. This is the Regimes Las Vegas,profits by the billions for them, debit to the citizens, close it down. Get honest with your selfs.
This country has ideals and a base, they have been trampled on, if the chest pounders want a war lets send them to the planet of the apes.
No kidding, it is ludicros, put asside 911, the medai tied that one in a knot for now. How about WMD's. How about 600,000 innocent human being killed, and our young sons. How about money, we are bankrupt.
Cant the bubbles see that our land has been taken over by the elite, that the ideals of America are in the toilet. That these bloodsuckers in control are tearing down our Republic for profit and power.


I'm your kind of asshole!
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I've probably forgotten more than you'll ever learn.............


I'm your kind of asshole!
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.08.07 - 8:31 am | #


HOWDOYALIKEMENOW ?
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Looking for attention I see.


I'm your kind of asshole!
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.08.07 - 8:31 am | #
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Man you really shouldn't be admitten that shit.


HOWDOYALIKEMENOW ?


yeah I'm an asshole. I'm your kind of asshole!


See how you are?
I have been watching this site for a long time.
You people attack other people here.
I have seen many people post here that had something to say.
They were attacked and ran off by people like you.
You do not own shit .
ATTACK ME ASSHOLE !!
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Self Discovery and realization is a bitch, isn't it?


HOWDOYALIKEMENOW ?


I'd like to teach the world to poke smot,in perfect harmony,I'd like to teach the world and do it happily,
ITS THE REAL THING, DA,DA,DA,DA,DA
(POKE SMOT)
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And become a mental defective? No thanks.
Smoke Pot and become a short term memory head case! Phuque that!


See how you are?
I have been watching this site for a long time.
You people attack other people here.
I have seen many people post here that had something to say.
They were attacked and ran off by people like you.
You do not own shit .
ATTACK ME ASSHOLE !!


You figure it out.
Vet. | 05.08.07 - 8:21 am | #

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I don't even believe you know how to tie your own shoe laces.


Keith Obermann,

Thank goodness for Keith and there is no comparison between him and FOX news. Keith has class, he explores and reports facts, not lies, like Fox. He doesn't use HATE WORDS in his commentary, he does some bashing, but its done in honesty and some respect, unlike Fox News. If we are going critical, get critical of Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Sean Insanity, Bill Orally, Rush Limbaugh, whom have no credibility in their reporting methods. There approach to the news is twisting the facts and Hate Mongering. I read Sean Hannity graduated from Jerry Falwell's college which sounds like the 160 people that work for the Bush Administation that graduated from Pat Robertsons College, that would be a Tier 4 education. Hello and save Keith he is about all we have left.


Do people wonder if you are mistreating your children by not feeding them meat? I know it's being said, but I also wonder how you all tolerate the ignorance?
Vet. | 05.08.07 - 8:13 am | #

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Never assume, because you only end up making and, "ASS out of ,"U" and Me"


You figure it out.


Ha Ha Ha,
You bunch need to start your own web site and stop using Alex's. But that is what losers do, they always use someone else.
Vet. | 05.08.07 - 7:49 am | #

Vet? Is that Like in Vetenarian?


Look at how easily you were suckered!
Ha Ha Ha.
DUBWA


Do people wonder if you are mistreating your children by not feeding them meat? I know it's being said, but I also wonder how you all tolerate the ignorance?


not enlightened; ignorant; "the devices by which unenlightened men preserved the unjust social order"
uninformed - not informed; lacking in knowledge or information; "the uniformed public"
illiterate - not able to read or write


come on vet , make a political opinion statement or comment on a story from the PP site.
being here says it has youre interest somehow
for whatever reason.


Schooled online baloney are we?


never argue with a fool, they'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.


Yes?


doesnt bug me a bit, am used to the online baloney myself, I see others going to grade school tactics and recognize it for what it is.


Just exactly what I thought.


Sees Things | ?
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you people lurk this site and attack people repeatedly.
Does it piss you off if someone does the same?


Ha Ha Ha,
You bunch need to start your own web site and stop using Alex's. But that is what losers do, they always use someone else.
Vet. | 05.08.07 - 7:49 am | #

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hahaha whats youre excuse then?


Sees Things
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia
ak48 |
sane |
chris jones
viet nam vet terry
Joe Cortez |
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Ha Ha Ha,
You bunch need to start your own web site and stop using Alex's. But that is what losers do, they always use someone else.


of course, the lists of corporations and all the subsidiaries just might resemble illuminati pyramids for some reason ...


couldnt agree more, some of the problem is there are so many corporations and so many subsidiaries of them, brand names and sub-labels,
that we just dont know what all to boycott. "they" keep saying that a stop to consumerisms will hurt the dollar and provoke a crash, but is it OUR dollars "they" keep talking about? NOPE !! and.. everyone CAN file exemption on W-4 forms.. thats monies THEY dont get immediately.. if afraid of the IRS thugs, put the money aside to pay the "protection thugs" in MARCH.. at least they dont get the bucks right NOW to use, abuse, and collect interest on. is sales tax, fuel tax, other taxes .. not also forms of income tax? if we could make our names 'incorporated' or 'LLC' status would these taxes be tax deductable as operating costs? apologies if I'm a little off the wall here, but I saw it over 20 years ago the tax bracket structuring of the IRS, the more you make the more they take.. until it's over 100k a year.. then its 20%. totally engineered to KEEP poorer people slaves to the tax games. the wealthy and successful pay a LOT lower percentage than the people who much moreso need the money. on the much larger end, corporations refusing to conform to EPA standards set, or other reasons.. are granted corporate welfare to take the business and production overseas to leave people here unemployed.. corporate welfare 3-4x greater than anything the people receive in total, so courtesy of the taxpayers that funded it they leave the same people unemployed! naaw, that isnt unamerican activity aka treason. them in office giving those grants oughtta be tried and HUNG, but they arent. I'm not a michael moore fan but he did point out pillsbury got 11 million grant for the doughboy to "heehee bueno" on TV in mexico.. for people who dont want, need, nor can afford pillsbury biscuits.. they make tortillas by hand outta flour themselves just fine and arent consumers of pre-packaged GAK food. it would be nice to have a list of all the major corporations and all of thier subsidiaries so we can know where the money goes, and try to stop feeding into it all.


For anyone who uses Real Player to listen to Alex live on the internet, I find there is a small improvement in the cutting out of the broadcast, if you download the lossless Real codec that they have. In the double arrow menu that points to the right on the top of Real Player, go into Tools and then Update. When the update pops up there should be a few choices to check off. Scroll down a bit and you'll see the Lossless Codec. Check it off and download it and it will be automatically installed in Real Player. I find this helps a bit.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/t...tech/ 388988.stm


Two comments---

1) Re: Bush as Bean---If Bush is immitating Mr. Bean, it might be because he's finally realized he can't impersonate a genuine president. Using a teddy bear for a diaper, in a pinch, is one thing but his using the American flag for his Depends is another.
2) Re: "impeachw" plate---It seems,miraculously, the officianados decided it to be better public interrest to leave our free speech alone. Everything else is jabbing us. Are they just waiting for a different moment as opposed to closing in on The People all at once from as many angles as they can think of??? Perhaps it's not what the plate actually said as opposed to what IT COULD HAVE SAID that made them rethink their prior BULLSHIT STANCE!!!!! Tired of the sensorship and bullshit in this country. We ALL are!!!! Is this really DEMOCRACY that we live in??? Not pumping gas on 5-15-07 could be just the beginning. We should not continue to be the "land of lemmings" and should not take any more of this crap!!!!! It should start at the pumps and continue. It's high fucking time The People took back our country!!! Are we REALLY scared to make more of a stand???? Are we to continue to stand by and watch as herded sheep and deer caught in the headlights??? UNITED States of America!!!!! Talk is cheap!!!! We need to find unity and band together. There are more than enough of us!!!!! My mother used to say, "There's safety in numbers" whenever there were a few other people around when she needed to get across the street with me,as a child.'Across the street' could very well be a means to an end, or at least SOME type of destination;at the very least,some sort of STANCE!!! It would be better than standing still with our thumbs up our asses!!!! Yeah, pour some more shit on us!!!! I don't think so!!!! We've allowed this administration too much power for far too long!!! This country is rotting away and frayed like burlap. We should plan,like with the gas pumps next Tuesday,to play a little "Frogger" where it REALLY counts!!!! Why should it stop with gas???? WE are America!!!! We should pick a day to storm our nation's capitol,sign petitions to impeach,etc. Whatever it takes to put the stripes back on Old Glory. Those stripes don't include Bush. Think of it like this,if the man of your household lied constantly, kept giving you food poisoning for supper, and constantly threw you out of your warm bed and into the cold night, would you continue to let him be head of the household????


Hate is never a virtue.


All politics is the work of demons and no honest man has a chance of truly succeeding; if a genuine threat emerges against the status quo, the threat is eliminated as quickly as possible. "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely; all great men are invariably bad men."

".......a king shall arise, having a fierce countenance, who understands sinister schemes. His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power; he shall destroy fearfully, and shall prosper and thrive; he shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. Through his cunning he shall cause deceit to prosper under his hand; and he shall exalt himself in his heart. He shall destroy many in their prosperity. He shall even rise against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken WITHOUT HUMAN HAND."

The battle is the Lord's and we do it His Way or it doesn't get done.

".......in order that the living may know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He will, and sets over it THE LOWEST OF MEN."
The lowest of men, in this century, are politicians.


re PP Blows
Your "simple idea" is not simple, it´s the most common human misconception and can be summed up in: "Hey look ma.. i´ve gots me some thumbs... thad muscht mean I can decide for everyone otha livin creatua on earth...duh.."
You and the other people that follor this line of reasoning have been kicked out of science for two major reasons:
1. You can no longer provide bleeding edge competence since you have an outdated world view.
2. You were always better at bagging groceries anyway.

What amazes me is that people like you insist on calling yourselves smart even when you are proven wrong over and over again, not only by logic reasoning but by nature as well. You think humans live longer now than they were ment to biologically? Then why do common household litterature say that a human can be 120 years old? I´m talking about the Bible now, it doesn´t matter if there is a God or not, the simple fact that people 3000 years ago wrote of human ages rarely reached today is proof enough that we are not getting older. Ooops modern medicin doesn´t mean that much does it? What other arguments did you have? Weaker genes manage to survive? Sure, you´re living proof of that but hey, go to a mall, i´m sure even you could outrun most of the lard ass braindead consumer drones that hang out there. A large portion in the poor countries are starving to death and a large portion in the rich world are eating themselves into an early grave. Call it natural selection if you want, I call it business as usual. Infant mortality rates was another one of your arguments, they don´t matter either since people in poor countries try until they have the kids anyway and people in rich countries don´t want many kids and stop at 1.2 or whatever, another great hollow argument you didn´t check out. Another common on your fascination on modern medicin, most "cures" as you belive they are, are not cures for anything, they are treatments. There is no money in cure, but treatment can last forever. A cure is something like a heart transplant, I don´t think they are very common in warzones or starving parts of the world.


This is a good movie depicting our youth today. Lost and unaware of what is really going on or how to deal with situations. After seeing this film I got worried about our kids in todays society. They seem like they are following music and media more than their parents and teachers.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=245& Itemid=50
It is a good film if you have the time to watch it.


What is probably sad and funny is the picture on this article of Bush where it says in the background: "Reading makes a country great."

Well, this president doesn't read anything...not even the secret plans his cronies used to hijack this government.

So much for a great country...


blah blah blah blah blah blah blah towers blah blah blah blah pancake towers blah blah blah blah no molten steel blah blah blah coffee blah blah blah truthers suck blah blah blah scrambled eggs blah blah screwloosechange blah blah blah your moron blah blah blah u brainwashed mroon blah blah blah
debunker | 05.07.07 - 11:17 pm | #

Finally an authentic post revealing the idiocy at the core of almost every debunkers' argument:

No logic, just sound bites.

Well done!


Because the young people are becoming resentful.
They are getting out of school. They can't get Jobs. The Jobs they get are shit, etc., etc.


Neither the attitude of the students nor of the military personnel in the video surprised me. I am 100% against the Iraq War, and have always been. Having said that, I am also 100% in favor of reinstituting the draft, with no exceptions for students. THEN we'd see how fast young people would be out protesting the war.
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Or you'd see a Revolution break out!


con't- But it's like they are getting ready for something big. Like doing all the rails to the sea of some shit.


BIG TIME Rail Road supplyhead going in at New Albin, Iowa. Some BIG TIME Rail refurbishment going on. Unprecedented! They are taking 20 acres of the guys farm field and using it.

Lots of rail road ties, etc. I know they do rail refurbishment in the summer on somelines. But WOW!


I am also 100% in favor of reinstituting the draft, with no exceptions for students. THEN we'd see how fast young people would be out protesting the war.
Kim | 05.07.07 - 11:47 pm
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Be careful what you wish for Kim.
So what you are saying is you are against the war, but you are FOR sending everyones kids to an early grave, particularly college kids, to teach them a lesson about how they should be protesting against the war .
Is that right ?


"Clinic to weed out embryos with a squint"

Someone once said...

"If you fall for it, you deserve it..."

If the Brits are having their babies killed for cosmetic reasons, then it's their own fucking fault. Maybe this is a good time to issue out a good Darwin award. Maybe stupid people SHOULD have their babies killed so as to elliminate stupid people from the gene pool of humanity. Let the baby killing continue!


Neither the attitude of the students nor of the military personnel in the video surprised me. I am 100% against the Iraq War, and have always been. Having said that, I am also 100% in favor of reinstituting the draft, with no exceptions for students. THEN we'd see how fast young people would be out protesting the war.


Robin wrote:

My Bush is now imitating Mr Bean maybe he is about to quit the presidency hahahaha

Mr Bean bush
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I think Mr Bean could do a better job, Robin. Problem is, he'd probably win the war by accident. Grin...


Dice goes to San Diego U.

Cheap shot, after cheap shot, after cheap shot. I think that one thing most people who read these pages are real clear about is that America has been dumbed down superbly.

You say you're a Christian, Mark. There by the grace of God go you, I, and anyone else for that matter - when it comes to issues of current events, spiritual events and occurrences, and the "insider news" we are deeply blessed to have via conduits like Alex Jones, and yourself - to a lesser extent.

Although I'm NOT an American, I'm kinda through with the "look how dumbed down they are" shtick. "We know and they don't" sounds like it's verging on 9/11 gnosticism to me, Mark, and it's wearing long on me.

I surely do NOT think anyone is going to be saved by what they know about 9/11/01, but I also do assert that people will be saved IRREGARDLESS of what they know about 9/11/01.

Knowing about what's going on is the cream in the pie, my friend. It's not the pie. I think these people are more to be pitied, some to be scolded, but when we get into humiliation we should remember the gigantic logs in our own eyes.

What have you got to put under someone's arms when you kick the crutches out from under them - their comfortable beliefs, hopes and ambitions? We're all gonna be culled if WE don't stop it?

I agree: we should be fighting pro-actively AGAINST the NWO, but I feel we should be on our KNEES thanking the God who has richly blessed the West, and who has helped US understand the truth about the times we have before us.

I like what you do, dude, and I'm with you all the way. I just wonder sometimes if you realise just how fortunate you are that you are NOT one of those who do not have a clue. Man; I thank God every day I'm not Danny Bonaduce - and that's not because I don't like the man - or because I think I'm any better than him, for that matter.

He's apparently so content with his life here and now, if he does not listen up, what's here and now may be all he EVER has - for eternity. What good is his horde Federal Reserve notes going to do him if he ends up in hell?

Again; come the time? I don't think any one of us will be saved by "what" we know about 9/11, OR ABOUT GOD - for that matter - but by WHOM we know.

Share a tear for the brain dead.


blah blah blah blah blah blah blah towers blah blah blah blah pancake towers blah blah blah blah no molten steel blah blah blah coffee blah blah blah truthers suck blah blah blah scrambled eggs blah blah screwloosechange blah blah blah your moron blah blah blah u brainwashed mroon blah blah blah


Like one University professor said, "Every year the students keep getting dumber". I used to live in San Diego and the vibe is just like this. It's a very military mentality down there in the Sun and critical thinking is not high on the agenda there. SDSU is considered the party university of the country. I had a professor at Mesa college in San Diego joke that when someone says they are from SDSU they cough it under their breath like it's an embarrassment.


My Bush is now imitating Mr Bean maybe he is about to quit the presidency hahahaha

Mr Bean bush


I wonder why Gore did'nt do anything about global warming when he was Vice President??? I mean jeeze,me living in New Jersey he could have prevented alot of pollution from those factories that smells up this State every day and night!


Shed a tear for the children. Yup, I know most of you folks do, but, there are so many who just dont want to know about it, the little bubbles. Wave the flag and it goes away like magic.
Hey, you guys and gals in bubble land, there were no WMD's, no arsenals of mukes, or labs for toxic bombs, or any other bullshit reason to invade a foreing nation. Hey bubbles, 911, sure wave the flag and chase Osmin Bin laden, bushes playmates. We are getting screwed agian , 10 times the Nam, 600,000 dead kids, moms and dads, and our tropps. Bubbles do you care about kids, well their turning into crispy criters, a bad pharse from nam. Come on home and scrape your family off what use to be your kitchen, then tell me to wave the flag. Visit a VA, listen to the boys there tell ya all the fun they had.
Hey mr. Bubble, like money, well guess what were in the largetst national debt in history, and the war is what 405 billion now. Oh well wave the ol banner, give the Bushies a kiss, and hail the regime.
When you see Chaney on the news, silence and reverence are demanded, he loves us.
Human sacrifice.Blood for profit.


C A N A N Y O N E S A Y F A L S E O P P O S I T I O N?

Gave up the missile pod theory Avery?


Even more good news...big win for freedom of speech advocates. no matter what you may think-this BS has been going on for 6 years. People stating the truth (ok maybe some opinion mixed in too) about this administration have been victims of unprecedented harrassment in this country. It is time for authority to let go of the policy that states, "do not criticize during time of war."
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Recall reversed on impeachment plate
http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/...ach% 20plate.txt
A Rapid City woman will not have to turn in her anti-George Bush license plate after all, a state official announced today. Paul Kinsman, secretary of the state Department of Revenue and Regulation, said officials with the Division of Motor Vehicles n which is within the revenue department - will not recall the “MPEACHW” personalized license plate that Heather Morijah has on her 2005 Toyota Prius. Last week DMV director Deb Hillmer told the Journal that Morijah would have to give up her license plate because someone complained that it was offensive. But Kinsman said Monday that wouldn’t happen. Hillmer said then that if Morijah didn’t voluntarily return the plates, the state might send law officers to pick them up. “After reviewing case law on this issue, we have determined that the plate will not be recalled,” Kinsman said in a news release. Kinsman didn’t offer further explanation for the change of position by the state.


Its amazing , bombs are dropping in Iraq, men are killing each other, children are being mutilated, and the big news is royalty is having dinner.
Who gives a shit realy, entertainemt for some, curiosity for others, this is how the rich folks live, woopedo.
Save a life, now theres something to get headlines, stop the war, bring the boys home, investigate 911, Impeach Bush and Cheney, Rice, arrest Collins, they are traitors to this land. Why do some Americans condone these freaks of nature. They are shitbags. funguses on humanity, may they rot slowly. leperacy is too good for them.
What would wrok for a punishment, death is to swift. poverty would be a good start, confiscate their money, all of it, and the big corps involved, get em. Sick the ol FBI, on em, after you get rid of the the shithead FBI agents that worked for them. Let justice become our strength. Let America get back to being America, and not the Elites playground, human sacrifice, is their another term for what they have done, tell me. Money, dont worry they got it all, those who bow to them will get the scraps. An old fisherman told me when I was just a kid of 8 years, he was in his 60's, he said, this place (USA)has got the haves and the have nots. There are no countrys, only the rich and the poor, the rich dominate kid, you'l see one day he said.. his words.


Blundering Bush makes ANOTHER gaffe as he winks at the Queen

UK Daily Mail
Monday May 07, 2007

sorry.. this article was a waste of space to me, who cares what her royal bloodsucking hiney ate for dinner with her relative mister shrub. both families .. same family, are friggin global opium/heroin dealers, carlyle group, big oil, out to hurt us. wealthy beyond what anyone could ever spend in a dozen lifetimes, inbred lunatics !


>>>>>>>World Bank panel finds Wolfowitz guilty of conflict of interest
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Wo...uilty_0507.html
A World Bank panel has found President Paul Wolfowitz guilty of a "conflict of interest," according to a breaking report at the New York Times website. "A bank committee formally transmitted its findings that he was guilty of a conflict of interest in arranging for a pay raise and promotion in 2005 to Shaha Ali Riza, his companion," wrote Steven Weisman late on Monday afternoon. The panel's finding have not been made public, and Weisman added that "It was not clear whether the committee, consisting of 7 of the bank’s 24 board members, would remove Mr. Wolfowitz from his post or, more likely, express a loss of confidence in his leadership in a manner that might persuade him to resign." The news came as Wolfowitz's adviser Kevin Kellems resigned, complaining that the cloud over the Bush appointed president made his work at the institution useless.
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In case you thought Paris getting 45 days in jail was important, this should wake you up. World Bank enslaves much of the planet and Wolfowitz (key 9/11 contributor) being the head with unchecked powers for the past few years has made me sick. This is pretty huge in the world of international elitism.


innevitabely the wicked have their way in this world system
seemingly firmly gripping all within theur bloadsoaked hands
but God has His people for everlasting life
this temporal life may pass and it may pass hard and bad
but God rerwards those who are faithful til the end
do what you can
do what is right in your life every day according to Gods will for you in the bible
im not trying to tell anybody what to do
im just saying you know what is right for you with or withiout God" its up to you
i welcome the shoulder to shoulder against the NWO with anyone regardless of affiliation
because if you are against the NWO then you at least got a good start
if God wants you, He'll save you
but for now
i concider all people who stand against the NWO a brother in arms


hello, i luv ya, wont you tell me yur name?
hello, i luv ya, let me jump in yur game!
the enemy is many
but there are much more on our side
both in the natural
and in the spiritual
we win


Underground cities have been built in mountains for protection of the elite. Your tax dollars at work!

"Early in 1977... President Carter announced a few details of a top-secret Pentagon project code-named 'Noah's Ark' ... a system of some 96 'bunkers' and 'bolt holes' which have been established at various places on or near the earth to house approximately 6500 key officials in case of a nuclear war. Many of these 'bolt holes' are underground cities." - 65:57

"Just outside of... Bluemont, Virginia, about 46 miles west of Washington D.C., is an area of wilderness covering what has been called the toughest granite rock in the eastern United States. The installation is beneath a mountain and its name is the Western Virginia Office of Controlled Conflict Operations. Its nickname is Mount Weather. It was ordered to be built by the Federal Civil Defense Administration, which is now the Federal Preparedness Agency. Mount Weather was designed in the early '50s as part of a civil defense program to house and protect the Executive branch of the Federal government. The official name was 'The Continuity of Government Program"' - 51:115

"[Leonard C.] Lewin wrote in the Foreword [to the Report from Iron Mountain on the Possibility and Desirability of Peace]: '[Iron Mountain] is an underground nuclear hideout for hundreds of large American corporations. Most of them use it as an emergency storage vault for important documents. But a number of them maintain substitute headquarters as well, where essential personnel could presumably survive and continue to work after such an attack. This latter group includes such firms as Standard Oil of New Jersey, Manufacturers Hanover Trust and Shell.'" - 135:112-13

"The threat of terrorism, it turns out, led federal officials to dust off cold war doomsday plans for operating a shadow government if the nation's capital were wiped out.
"'This is serious business, and we take it seriously,' President George W. Bush said Friday, confirming reports that he ordered the precaution after Sept. 11 terrorist attacks...
"Under a top secret continuity of operations plan, as many as on 150 government officials have been dispatched to underground facilities outside Washington in shifts to make sure the government would keep operating in the event of an attack.
"The most visible shadow official has been Vice President Dick Cheney, whose 'secure undisclosed location' has become a line for jokes.
"Since Sept. 11, one member of the cabinet has always been away from Washington, either in a bunker or under heavy security...
"Some of the cold war bunkers are relatively well known, including a Pennsylvania facility that was blasted out of a mountain and built in around the clock shifts.
"According to information [Stephen] Schwartz compiled in 1998 for the Brookings Institution...it was built to accommodate 3,000 people, with medical facilities, a barber shop and a chapel.
"A similar facility in Virginia, completed in 1958, includes private sleeping quarters, a crematorium, and a radio and television station.
"'It's no secret that the facilities exist. There are house across the street from some of these places. People see the helicopters come and go,' Schwartz said.
"'We spent billions of dollars on them. We're getting a little bit of value out of them now.'" - 453:1,7

"In America alone there are over 120 Deep Underground Military Bases situated under most major cities, US AFBs, US Navy Bases and US Army Bases, as well as underneath FEMA Military Training Camps and DHS control centers. There are also many Deep Underground Military Bases under Canada. Almost all of these bases are over 2 miles underground and have diameters ranging from 10 miles up to 30 miles across! They have been building these bases day and night, unceasingly, since the 1940s. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-levity trains that have speeds up to 1500 MPH. Several books have been written about this activity. The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. They have nuclear powered laser drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day... The US Government through the NSA, DOD, CIA, DIA, ATF, ONI, US Army, US Marine Corp, FEMA and the DHS has spent in excess of 12 trillion dollars building the massive, covert infrastructure for the coming One World Government and New World Religion over the past 40 years.
"...Here are the locations of some Deep Underground Military Bases in America:...Alaska [4]...Arizona [6]...California [20]...Colorado [16] ...Georgia [1]... Indiana [1] ...Kansas [3]... Maryland [1]... Massachusetts [1]... Montana [1]... Nevada [5]... New Mexico [10]... New Hampshire [3]... New York [tunnels to Capitol Bldg., Wash, D.C.]... Ohio [1]... Oregon [4]... Pennsylvania [underground Pentagon]... Texas [3]... Utah [2]... Washington, D.C. [1]..." - 1105

TRIBULATION / FIRST 3.5 YEARS

The unsaved will flee to the mountains to escape God's wrath.
And I beheld when he had opened the SIXTH SEAL, and, lo, there was a great earthquake. And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth...and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; and said to the mountains and to the rocks, fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb. - Rev.6:12-16


The rumor mill has it a Zionazi black op nuclear detonation is forecast: Part of South Africa’s former nuclear arsenal remains unaccounted for. It is said to be on the Horn of Africa, one exploded at Addis Ababa in 1991, >BBC>Colin Blane. The Ashkenazi Zionist alliance, hereinafter the Zionazi’s are not averse to shedding African blood. August 7 1998 two bombs exploded almost simultaneously at the U.S. embassies in the East African nations of Kenya and Tanzania. The blasts occurred about four minutes and four hundred and fifty miles apart in the capital cities of Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam the death toll was horrific.

Simultaneous explosions are the hallmark of the American Zionazi apparatus.

October 16, 2006 -- With the Iraqi bloodbath against civilians and policemen continuing, it is interesting to note the comments made by the Iraqi Interior Minister about the parties that he claims are principally responsible for the massacres. Jawad al-Bolani, in a Friday press conference in Baghdad, rejected neo-con Bush administration claims that most of the deaths in Iraq are caused by insurgents who infiltrated the military and police. al-Bolani laid responsibility for the deaths, including gruesome beheadings of civilians, at the feet of the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA)-inspired Facilities Protection Service (FPS), an unregulated force of 150,000 foreign and Iraqi private security contractors. 14,000 of the Iraqi security personnel are from the Iraqi Free Forces, a militia loyal to neocon Iraqi shill Ahmad Chalabi. The remainder are drawn from paramilitary forces with some of the worst human rights records in the world: South Africa's apartheid regime security forces; Colombian, Salvadoran, and Chilean anti-guerrilla paramilitaries; and other special forces from the United Kingdom, United States, Israel, Nepal, Fiji, and the Philippines. Beheadings, such as those seen in Iraq, are a hallmark of the Nepalese Gurkhas, some of whom are working as private contractors in Iraq. http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

The Zionazi’s who established the Modern State of Israel, contrary to Jewish Law that states only The Messiah can do that, perpetrated the Holocaust, caused both world wars, and are the driving force behind genocide/abortion. The Ashkenazi are a marauding tribe from the steppes of Asia who are waging war against the rest of the world, 911 is another outrage ultimately traceable to Zionist Ashkenazi interests. The way to go ahead now is to hasten war against Israel.


Please stop interfiering with God Creature
Only God has a ritht all in God Plan is good
If Baby has a difects ther is a reason for that
Sotp Plaing gods


AK48 - thats pretty much the stupidest thing I have ever heard. If I said refrigerating the icecaps is stupid, why would I support such an idea? I will stop talking to you now because you are not making sense anymore.


if warmonger is so damn smart and hates this site and the people so much it's obvious he's retarded to even stick around, probably cheneys 25.00 pet


warmonger got his kneepads out for bush again I see .. howcome youre not overseas working for blackwater? they reject you for being a retard?


Welcome to , " Silent Hill."


re PP blows
When you lend your suoport to the elite you also support the ice cap idea. They wanna do it, so through guilt by association so do you. It´s your own rhetoric dumbass.


these are the same dumbasses who support this website. no wonder the chinese are eating our lunch! their students actually learn things that are useful.


Anyone with half a brain can see that putting refrigeration devices on icecaps is retarded. When did I say I thought that was a good idea? Again I must reiterate my simple idea. The Pandora's box of modern medicine was opened at the onset of the Industrial Revolution leading to people living longer than ever before, lower infant mortality rates, and fewer people dieing of common diseases because of new cures being discovered. Now the global population is greater than ever before, and will continue to do so until Malthusian catastrophes occur, or other mechanisms of population correction happen such as global war, genocide, natural disasters, widespread disease ect.


Cartoon about carbon madness:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/ ima...9revkin.190.jpg


In Mother Jones magazine there is a section talking about SPP and they don't list any facts or details, just say it's another alleged wild-eyed conspiracy tin foil nut job story...again, no facts to back up claim...tack one on for the big board:

Mother Jones - supplies hit piece.


Could anyone please provide information as to exactly what a "refinery incident" refers to?... Thanks in advance!


Judge orders shoplifters to wear 'I am a thief' signs
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/05/0...lifter.sign.ap/


http://thumbsnap.com/v/17456rg7.jpg
Picture reminds me of the atmosphere in the opening scene of "Les Miserables"

Talk about activist judges, wow.


“We need to stop flying, stop driving cars, and jetting around on marine recreational vehicles. The Mennonites survive without cars and so can the rest of us.”

Well then, why did we destroy the small family farm. Bring back the self-sufficient family farm. While you are at it, bring back small, family-owned businesses that used to line main street around the turn of the 20th century. Campaign to have "volume discount pricing" ruled unconstitutional, which would give small business a fighting chance and it would level the playing field for all.


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libertypatriot | Homepage | 05.07.07 - 2:09 pm | #

Another attempt to collapse the truth movement into something it is not. Illuminati divide and conquer using a margketing company that pays people to drop daily whispers (having nothing to do with anything) of blah blah blha jews blah blah blah...

desired result...oh I can't be a part of the truth movement, they are a bunch of Nazi's. Or, look how the truthers now have to deal with being stereotyped, that should distract them from finding the wizards that committed this massacre.

Hey let me try the same technique on the debunkers...

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah debunkers getting desperateblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah they know they are cornered blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah they know their days are numbered blah blah blah

Wow, thanks for the trainin, think I will do this on all debunker and MSM sites.

You guys are so smart


March 17th anti-war rally at the Pentagon
http://video.google.ca/ videoplay...212341582017130


Im so sick and tired of JEWS yes JEWS trying to monopolize on the persecution in world war II.

Guess what the POLISH were the worst hit out of anyone, and anytime you hear a Jew gripe tell them to shut their mouth and get some respect for the worst victims, and that they can kiss your ass if they think you are anti-semitic. Semites are Arabs as well btw so they cant even get their definition right


>>>>>>>Exploding Backpack Kills Man At Vegas' LuxorPolice Believe Victim Was Intended Target
http://www.wbaltv.com/news/13268...778/ detail.html
LAS VEGAS -- A backpack exploded in a parking garage attached to a Las Vegas hotel early Monday, killing a man who had picked it up, authorities said.
The man had removed the backpack from atop his car when it exploded shortly after 4 a.m. on the second floor of a parking behind the Luxor hotel-casino, said Officer Bill Cassell, a police spokesman.
The blast killed the man who was believed to be an employee of the hotel-casino, Las Vegas TV station
Metro police told the station that they were treating the death as a homicide with an unusual method. They said that there was no threat to customers at the Luxor, and that the victim was the intended target.

The man, whose identity was not disclosed, died after picking up an object in the parking structure of the famous pyramid-shaped Luxor Hotel on the busy Vegas strip. A second person was hospitalised in the incident.

Police gave no further information about the cause of the blast but local media reports suggested that explosives had been stuffed into a back-pack placed on top of the dead man's car.

The parking structure was sealed off early Monday as police and firefighters combed the building, police said.

HIDDEN MESSAGE: Watch out for homegrown terrorism


re PP blows
Again i submit it to you Sir, it is completely fucking retarded to put refrigeration equipment on the polar caps to maintain a status quo that has never existed before on this planet. This is undeniably what the "Elite" is suggesting. In my book that simply means they are fucked in the head and probably not suitable to lead the rest of us. You follow the freezer crowd and I will listen to science. Ok?


It's ignorant and dangerous to assume our horizons area infinite especially when research indicates that this everything but the case.
Anon | Homepage | 05.07.07 - 12:59 pm |

WELL SAID !! all of it !!


There is another dark energy being hid from us that can be used for good things or weapons. This energy can be harnessed to make oil not needed but rich elites wouldn't allow that. Also this "new" EM can be used for mass mind control.

http://www.prahlad.org/pub/ beard...scalar_wars.htm
http://depalma.pair.com/index.html

http://depalma.pair.com/ Absurdit...FreeEnergy.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ind...& articleId=5573


Any retard who thinks population is self regulating is too dumb to consider the effects that modern medicine has have since the Industrial Revolution. Nowadays people are living longer than ever before, and consequently there are more people on the planet than ever before.

Wow good job nobody on here is bright enough to even understand the point I was making

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As suggested, I wouldn't recommend expressing such an opinion by attacking people..because you'll only get an appropriated response. Just make a point.
The third-world population doubles every few decades - hence, open border would not regulate the flow of people. Growing wealth does not have all the answers, either - look at Inida; most people there are born into abject poverty and despite developing technologies, most people are destined for a life in the slums. The cast system, corruption and war with the Mullahs (over resources), ensures those people don't have a chance in hell.
Additionally, we have western guilt complex. We have western liberals who seem to think that inviting all and sundry into the US will suddenly stop this growing population, will stop wars, corruption. It won't.
In a few decades the US population is projected to hit 400,000,000. In a recent TIME magazine article, it was suggested that every single day in this country, thousands of people are getting through the Mexican border illegally.
It is assumed that these people - and the developing world - will become tomorrow's consumers and yet technology itself doesn't have all the answers. Technology isn't stopping the devastating impact this influx is having on the environment:
. Water tables decimated in the Sonoran Desert region
. The eradication of 90% of the Pacific North West's rain forest
. Land being consumed in Arizona at the rate of an acre-an-hour.
Technology won't address the impact mass, uncontrolled immigration is having on social cohesion. It will merely allow the establishment to control and contain those who object..because those people are identifiable.
People might say such a view is scare mongering. Maybe those people should address the message instead of the messengers. These problems affect everyone irrespective of their color or creed - including Mexicans. The war on the US has already been declared, it's a war of economics, of corruption, of mass migration, globalisation.
As I have said before, the troops in Iraq are, in my opinion, in the wrong place. Our foreign policy is encouraging war and division, not defending liberty - there will always be extremists and the worst thing for us to do is remain silent whilst the extremists on our own soil walk down wall street and sign out rights away. It won't affect these people but it will affect us.
Finally..ask why GreenPeace is quiet on this issue; ask why newspapers along the border who appear to offer both sides of the story, have been silenced. Ask why the meetings over the NAU/EU partnership have not been made public and those that have, contain very alarming objectives. Ask why academics who have spoken out on this issue complete with research, have been scorned..labelled..pigeon-holed. Oppressed.
It's patriotic to give a damn about what is happening to this country and it's people, even if it means questioning those in office who are doing these things in our name. It's ignorant and dangerous to assume our horizons area infinite especially when research indicates that this everything but the case.


what the hell kinda crap is this, you are a retard. It has no logic only stupid little rap that can be made about anything after the facts...your an idiot.
DRGNMSTR | 05.07.07 - 12:44 pm | #

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another non reading flamer, gottaluvit !!
I must have taken lessons from you ?
maybe you didnt understand it was sarcasm about the logic of politicians? I can admit to being an idiot, can you admit to being a trigger happy flamer looking for something anything to pick on?


lets hear it for logic?
Sees Things | 05.07.07 - 12:14 pm | #

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what the hell kinda crap is this, you are a retard. It has no logic only stupid little rap that can be made about anything after the facts...your an idiot.


They should have beaten the person who took the sign. Just bash the living sh*t out of them. Oh well. That's why I don't go to protests too often. A stupid person would come and try to take my sign, and I would beat them to within an inch of their life and get arrested.


yes yes, why fire trucks are painted red..
each truck has 4 wheels and 8 men
4+8=12 and theres 12 inches on a ruler
queen elizabeth was a ruler
she was also a ship that sailed the seven seas
and in those seas are fish
and the fish all have fins
and the fins were known to fight the russians
who are also known as reds
so they HAD to paint the fire trucks RED!

lets hear it for logic?


"How do we know who really supports our troops?" Durgin asked. "We don't accept a finance bill with defeatist timelines that tell the enemy to hang in there. Supporters of our troops publicly cheer our soldiers to victory."

It's so pitiful that our country's very own are beginning to sound like the citizens of the very countries we once bombed...

It's funny how the very reason touted for continuing a war should be... to appease the troops themselves.

I mean, how stupid does that sound? A war to keep the troops happy?

Sheer madness. Our country has gone crazy. Blind with stupidity. So much for those weapons of mass destruction...


Any retard who thinks population is self regulating is too dumb to consider the effects that modern medicine has have since the Industrial Revolution. Nowadays people are living longer than ever before, and consequently there are more people on the planet than ever before.

Wow good job nobody on here is bright enough to even understand the point I was making

the way I see things you open every statement with an attack on peoples intelligence then whine they dont react to youre posts in a positive manner. had you read some previous posts better you might have seen some agree with "youre point" but, do you understand "my point" ?


re PP blows
Ok, you´re either stupid bordeline to insanity or simply ignorant enough to be thrown out of the trailer park.
ak48 | 05.07.07 - 11:05 am | #

For the life of me, I do not know why you sugar coat your feelings.

In any case the debunkers and general critics definitely follow the logic in an Ionesco play:
http://www.haloscan.com/ comments...omments14#72715


Wow good job nobody on here is bright enough to even understand the point I was making. Survival and reproduction are two instincts inherent to all life. To expect humans to stop either activity is stupid. Therefore humans will continue to breed until a Malthusian catastrophe occurs. Every human society that has existed since records began has more or less had a pyramid structure with a few "elites" at the top, and a large number of serfs/peons at the bottom. To expect humans to form a society unlike this is to ignore humans natural behavior to compete against each other for resources and sexual mates. If you were an "elite", you would want to do exactly what these elites are supposably trying to do - it would be in your best interests to do so.


Just keep telling everyone who CAN think on such elevated matters to choke themselves. It will keep you in the corner with your dunce hat on - more likely spawning bastard children in a gutter

if directed at me .. couldnt BE anymore wrong rich.


exhibit A, the ears of Prince Charles
exhibit B, the ears of George W Bush

theyre relatives btw


re Rich
Did anyone ever tell you that you´re cute when you play God?


The upside is clearly that global population is one of the easiest debates you can have. It has a zero population of morons. They are all too busy pretending no problem even exists, and even if it did, they will sit on their hands and not get involved. One of those rare cases where the children stay out of the conversation. No easy answers. As mentioned, increased longevity, preservation of inferior gene lines, all to be considered. Ultimately it has already been decided. It is a vicious mass kill off through a virus most likely, or letting the witless do-gooders plunge the whole species into destruction. They already admit they prefer the total collapse of civil society to the 'gross injustice' of people not spawning uncontrollably as rats. Just keep telling everyone who CAN think on such elevated matters to choke themselves. It will keep you in the corner with your dunce hat on - more likely spawning bastard children in a gutter. What do you care; it's your right to reproduce senselessly like any other lower lifeform. It is not like you ever pretend you want to reduce death, reduce suffering, preserve or protect anything. You are all for the horror show on an epic scale. All that matters is that you preserve your fantasy that you have no blood on your hands. The Parkay Butter Nature fairy did all the killing, as PLANNED.


re PP blows
Ok, you´re either stupid bordeline to insanity or simply ignorant enough to be thrown out of the trailer park. What you are trying to promote are the ideas of Plato, but you fail to realize that the people in control are completely retarded and imbred to the point of genetic failure (I present as evidence for this: exhibit A, the ears of Prince Charles). Your elite that you hope will regulate the worlds population are the same uneducated, unrelastic dumbasses that gave us the "Lets put refrigerators on the polar caps" plan or "Food bombing Etiopia sure will solve that starvation problem" in the 80´s. You wanna hand over control of the planet to these people? Fine, you do that, I sure as hell won´t. Something tells me that unregulated GM food like the monsanto murder-corn (which combined with parasites is the prime suspect in the murder of the honey bees) or wild experiments with nanomachines are probably not a smart move. You claim that we have outperformed nature, give me one single example of when we have.


PP blows, Do YOU want to be the first to die so others can live, jerk? I think NOT! Why are all you willing to kill others so YOU can live? Real arrogant of ALL you elistists! Sounds just like the PURE EVIL NWO to me! Let the TOP 20% GREEDY MF'ers who have destroyed most of world for their OWN greedy KILL THEMSELVES and do the rest of us a BIG FAVOR! IT'S the TOP 20% greedy MF'ers who are destroying planet!


Any retard who thinks population is self regulating is too dumb to consider the effects that modern medicine has have since the Industrial Revolution. Nowadays people are living longer than ever before, and consequently there are more people on the planet than ever before.


Why doesn't this Paul Watson commit suicide if he is against world population? All these assholes who don't want OTHERS to live need to KILL Themselves! What we need in world is more birth control and a Pope who realizes he and the church is promoting proverty by NOT allowing people to have birth control!


What an appropriate name for a house minority leader with a hard on for the war. Boehner. (Listen to how fake this guys voice is. Just soooooo deep and masculine...ooooooo)
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...ot-a-benchmark/

So we have Bush, Dick and Boehner. Hum... and Nanci Blowsi.


What an appropriate name for a house minority leader who has a hard on for the war. Boehner.
(listen to how fake this guys voice is - all deep and just soooooo masculine)
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...ot-a-benchmark/

So we have Bush, Dick and Boehner. Hum.... and Nanci Blowsi.


ya know, if it wasnt for modern medicine allowing the weak to survive and pass on defective genes I wouldnt be here now and more than likely rich wouldnt be either. compound this with the fact that the healthier specimens are sent to war to be mowed down while the protected infirm stay home breeding.. nature, human or otherwise, will take its course. no need for drastic measures because some think tank malthusian feels he is superior and has all the answers. go ahead rich, stop global warming for production of CO-2 and overpopulation personally after you choke yourself I'll follow, I promise http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../ 060507pers.htm


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/fo...thread79655/ pg1


re Rich
You are attributing things to me that I never said. A space station is a creation under complete control, it belongs to a small group of people who has undisputed ownership of it.Thus it can also be regulated. A planet however is not the same thing, first of all the planet does not belong to you, it doesn´t belong to humans, it´s simply a place where we happen to live. We can chose how we want to treat it, but you are proposing that a self appointed elite commit genocide and murder people that do not share their values. For me that is morally wrong and I would much rather prefer natural regulation of population. Your whole argument is bullshit from start to finish (or you never travelled outside the US) because you claim that my policy of letting nature take its course promotes more suffering. Completely untrue, it is your policy of intervention that sends aid to starving nations and lets them build up populations where disease and famine can then rage. If these nations had been ignored they would never have seen the levels of sufferings that human intervention has subjected them to. Don´t try to put words in my mouth, stick to what i´m saying and if you disagree with what im actually saying you are free to do so, but don´t invent things.


Yes it casually works. as the great saying goes, 'This Island Earth'. The same rules apply to a small island, a space station, or a whole planet. Food enough, sewage treatment, fresh water, ect. ect. According to you, it is INSANE and impossible defiance of nature to only send enough people to the SPACE STATION, that can be supported by the space station. For you, you should send up more people WEEKLY, and then, let nature takes its course. They can slay each other over the food and water. How ridiculous. Man kind can and will address the problem. Solutions are being put on the table. One will be chosen. Your solution will not be chosen. This island earth can support X number of humans. Humans wont be allowed infinite unchecked reproduction till the collapse of civilization. The whale guy has had his point well proven. Take drastic action, or the silly people will KILL YOU ALL! and you do it with a proud smile of saying, nature told you so. We told nature to kiss our ass millions of years ago. We already have beaten nature all this time. Pretending we are wild goats is not a solution. It is some demented wikka religion. Not that it is surprising. There is no happy Micky Mouse smilely town answer to such a thing. And people who need such answers should keep their head in the sand where it belongs. The adults have a problem to solve, with the lesser of the possible evils. Not bypassing lesser evils to take the giant NATURAL EVIL - which in this religion is 'deserved' or something by this pagan goddess mother nature. When an asteroid comes, do we worship that too? or try and blast it? we blast it. That is the choice the ancestors made. Too late to change your mind now.


Hey Paul Watson from the Shepard, Why don't you lead the way by killing off your wife and kids and grandkids first! You are a leader are'nt you or just one big mouth jackass!


re Rich
I allready answered this, but let me clarify. Man has never been able to outperform nature. That´s why we have people experimenting on making armour from spider web for example.
Your plan is to supersede nature and play God, it doesn´t work in elementary science and it is very unlikely to work when it comes to structured planning on a planet where 90% of the population in fact disagrees with your plan. Your plan is intellectual masturbation which will lead to genocide, it will preserve the level of disease and increase the risk of ecosystem failure resulting in species that would remain unaffected in a natural systems being dragged into a wider extinction due to your interventions disharmonizing the planet.


Nasrollah: US led Israel into war = BRILLIANT

A deadly general the maker of that plan. Use your enemy's strength against themselves. In America, with a giant fake media propaganda machine, honest talk of Israel is a hate crime. Tricking the people to even THINK - even think - yes, even allow a SINGLE UNPROGRAMMED THOUGHT, on this topic, in any way, is a deadly stab to their power over America. What???? you DARED to think about the relationship of Israel, America, and their wars??? HATE CRIMINAL! ANTISEMITE!


Yes, I covered your solution. As we already know from nature. White Tail deer, for want of predators, super overpopulate, then come winter, die in horrific mass starvation. So yes, I am glad you at least tell the truth: the PLAN - to increase the human population, until as we already know for certainty, humans in crisis bind on ethnic-racial, religious lines, and begin massive wars. Great sweeping plagues, starvation, cannibalism, massive destruction of infratstructure during war and riots. You actually plan MORE SUFFERING, more horror, more death, more damage to the whole system with all the trickle down suffering that goes with that, and so classic of this thinking, though you are in fact the architect of profound butchery and suffering, you get to forgive yourself entirely, because you merely let 'nature take its course'. Nature taking its course does not apply to humanity. That ended when they left caves, BUILT UNNATURAL HOMES, planted UNNATURAL FIELDS, and created life itself in UNNATURAL domesticated animals, that are no longer natural, but selectively bred to be unnatural. Humans are shapers of nature, not animals who live in harmony with it. That has not been true for the history of our species. The lesser of the evils will be chosen. Your plan of no plan, only gives them the RIGHT to act, with your permission of inaction and willful neglect.


OMG. This is too funny.
http://video.google.ca/ videoplay...453054472544980


Nasrollah: US led Israel into war

Press TV
Monday May 07, 2007

Secretary General of Hezbollah has accused the United States of being behind Israel's military onslaught against Lebanon last year.

I gotta get out the hip-waders for THIS bullshit.. the STATE of isreal has seats in DC and lobbyists from hell, get more funding from the US than any 5 states combined.. but the US led THEM into war. isreal gets any/everything they ever ask for from the US including a nuclear arsenal and all the conventional weapons theyed ever want, biological weapons too. if isreal didnt want to be in a war it wouldnt have happened. this is just bogus propaganda to put the blame to the US, when in fact isreali government and the US government is the same friggin thing... the STATE of isreal .. never announced of course but look at it and think about it.


Re Rich
Population is self regulating. Just in the same way that we don´t need anyone planting trees after a naturally occuring hurricane we don´t need anyone regulating our populations. Let natural order rule and we will die when it´s time.
Your reasoning is screwed up because you base it on that humans can do a better job of regulating population than nature itself. Several mass extinctions of the earths history proves your side of the argument wrong. Life survives but species sometimes become extinct. I dont need to give you a max number of population, neither does the Rockefeller family or anyone else. Nature will let us know when it´s enough.


Is virtual rape a crime?
http://www.wired.com/culture/lif...5/ sexdrive_0504


This is a topic that really damages the anti-globalists. There are no intelligent people who support your 'infinite population Earth' plan. There are no intelligent people who support your 'ignore population concerns until crisis' plan. If you argue the earth can support infinite # of humans, you look like an idiot. If you argue the problem will go away by ignoring it, you look like an idiot. While the 'control birth rate by choice' plan seems nice on some levels, all it means is, Europeans die out, other ethnicities replace them with unchecked birth rates. So, as you make your enlightened commentary, insert in the document what the maximum logical population of the Earth should be? There is an answer - no matter how ignorant you are. Pick some number. 85 trillion? Humans shoulder to shoulder across whole surface? We all know that SCAM SOLUTIONS are their method, but dont do another idiocy of 'pretend problems cant exist to prevent their scam solutions'. The conflict would best be won with a real solution offered that is simply not mass murder of the weak, so the status quo goes on untouched. Doubling the population until ecological collapse, or a 'natural extermination' is no better. YOU DELIBERATELY starving billions to death in riot/famine - is supposedly your higher values at work?


Watson should volunteer first, but he will not because he wants to execute his plan, pun intended.

In any case we are not drinking his elite cool aid for the unwashed masses rendered so by organizations such as the IMF.

"Oh we have to rid the world of the riff raff, oh, but we created them when they would have otherwise been Mennonites and tribesmen eating well. But a rational interest free currency even as a fiat currency served the North American colonies well. No unemployment, and high prosperity was a working concept in the 1750s.

Cities are bad places because of fiat money tied to interest, not because of people. But those who benefit the most from all of this riff raff poverty want to "cull the population?"


Children 'bad for planet' says environmentalist group

Sarah-Kate Templeton
The London Times
Monday May 07, 2007

dont these idiots know the differences between carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide AT ALL ?!!
damn!! maybe these same people oughtta give up their own life to stop this evil carbon dioxide first as example, and hope were all fool enough to just follow... geez !!


Seems EU is in deep trouble:
http://www.tech.co.uk/gadgets/ di...leid=2090654927

CeBIT 2007: EU says no RFID regulation needed
Industry and market will sort it out, EU commissioner says

"I have seen what the industry has up its sleeves, and there are some real 'killer applications' on the way," Reding said.

RFID is big business at this year's CeBIT, where an entire hall is devoted to the wireless technology.


Sean Penn.
Thanks for your comments, courage, and honesty.
The little pople , Citizens, in this land of ours do not have the voice, we cant get over the wall the pols have erected, nor can we get media attention. The people are in desperate need of concerned people like you who by image and career have this opportunity. America needs help, and the rats in power need imprisonment.


this is a re-post for people maybe missed it

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/52...gas_mileage_2x/

good info to help yourself and give less to big oil.


Globalists are the completely opposed to sovereignty and I live in Quebec Province.

'Nuff said


after seeing a few clips of what sean penn has to say ... GO BOY !! lol


mentioned it myself a couple times
Sees Things | 05.07.07 - 7:28 am | #

Great minds think alike


http://digg.com/politics/ NAFTA_S...As_Key_Player_2
Sees Things | 05.07.07 - 6:46 am | #

The only scenario that even remotely allows for Giuliani as pres involves another false flag. Due to the truth movement and other factors, this may backfire greatly. In any case, although it is important to see a candidate's true colors, this should not be much of a surprise to voters. Every candidate except Ron Paul and Mike Gravel will promote globalization on a level we have never seen before. These "Fake Americans" just do not care about the sovereignty of the US, it is not in their reality at all. For the past 30 years, we have been trained to "think globally, act locally."

Foreign Aid, Peace Initiatives,Terrorism and now Global Warming have been successful brain washing tools in lowering the importance of national sovereignty to all Americans. NAFTA was the beginning, SPP is the middle, and New World Order is the end.


Visions of pharmaceutical fascism come to mind...
sane | 05.07.07 - 7:12 am | #

yup, mentioned it myself a couple times, grocery store preferred customer cards cost millions to put in, and with the card, prices higher on food, without the card .. RAPE YOUR WALLET. card touted as great for re-stocking goods, but also electronically tags purchases to youre ID ..
(I know some about relational databases btw)shared information to the AMA and big pharma, insurance corporations, they then know what to prescribe for the symptoms you'll have in 10 years for what you eat today. Diabetes is rampant, it'd be easy to just deny insulin to take the fight (and life) right out of a large percentage of opposition.
charging you for it making profit all along the way.


Sean Penn. They should all be in jail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h? v=QrSv5Mc9CmQ


Actually this is a really good thing for me to research.
TimM | 05.07.07 - 7:03 am | #

Thought you would like it. It is current, high profile, filled with scandal, and smells like total bullshit.

Visions of pharmaceutical fascism come to mind...


Yah sane, I would doubt the studies they have done on HPV conclusively prove these high risk stains. They probably just looked at the cervical cancer cells and saw what viruses are in them and then made the link. And that certainly doesn't prove anything. Only longitudinal studies over time and correcting for other cancer causing factors can conclusively prove something like this. Actually this is a really good thing for me to research.


Left vs Right vs Libertarian quiz. I'm not sure if they even quite understand their free trade question but its interesting anyway.
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz


http://digg.com/politics/ NAFTA_S...As_Key_Player_2

someone PLEASE send this link to PP staff


>>>>>Latest headlines on the most important issue for the American people: THE WAR IN IRAQ...

These stories of course will be minimally reported on Faux/FNN/FSNBC as those stations are owned by corporations connected or in the MIC:

Bombs Kill 8 American Soldiers in Iraq
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...s/20070506/ iraq
BAGHDAD — Roadside bombs killed eight American soldiers in separate attacks Sunday in Diyala province and Baghdad, and a car bomb claimed 30 more lives in a wholesale food market in a part of the Iraqi capital where sectarian tensions are on the rise.

Memorial honoring fallen soldiers in Iraq, Afghanistan runs out of room
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/new...al/ 17181415.htm
Congress already has run out of space on a memorial created last year to honor all of the U.S. service members killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In a grim sign of the times, the "Wall of the Fallen," set up by House Republican leaders in June, is almost full. The mounting death toll from Iraq has forced U.S. House staffers to study how to reconfigure the display in the lobby of the Rayburn Building - the largest office building for members of Congress - to squeeze in more names. According to the Defense Department, 3,736 U.S. service members died in the two wars by the end of April. New names are added to the display every few months, but none have been added since November. The last name listed is Lance Cpl. Luke Holler, 21-year-old Marine reservist from Bulverde, Texas, killed by an explosive device on Nov. 2.

Afghan Media Face Threat of Controls
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/0...=rssnyt& emc=rss
KABUL, Afghanistan, May 6 — Afghanistan’s government, competing with the Taliban for public support and trying to fend off accusations that it is corrupt and ineffective, is moving to curb one of its own most impressive achievements: the country’s flourishing independent news media. Under President Hamid Karzai, a 1960s media law was updated and has been considered the most liberal in the region. Six independent television channels have begun broadcasting, and dozens of radio stations and newspapers are now operating. All news media outlets were under government control under the Taliban government, which was ousted in late 2001. Yet for the past year, as the government has sought to counter growing public dissatisfaction, it has tried to impose more controls over the news media, journalists and human rights officials said. Parliament is now considering amendments that the critics warn could undo many of the gains made since the fall of the Taliban.

For Iraqi Soldiers, A Medical Morass-Lack of Facilities Leaves Wounded To Seek Own Care
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...7050501236.html
As the U.S. military prepares for an eventual handover of security duties to Iraqi forces, more of Iraq's 120,000 soldiers are advancing to the front lines of the war, and more are being wounded. But because there are no Iraqi military hospitals, thousands have been left to the mercy of overtaxed and corrupt civilian hospitals and a military compensation system paralyzed by red tape and disorganization, according to soldiers, family members, doctors and military officials. Many, feeling abandoned, turn to their families for help. "I was fighting and going into combat missions for three years. When I was wounded, I was thrown out to my house," said Massen, a baby-faced man who slumped over a table, eyes downcast, during an interview at a Baghdad restaurant. "They did not provide me crutches or a wheelchair. They provided me with nothing."


Rich: Is Condi hiding the smoking gun?

ROXANA HEGEMAN
Raw Story
Sunday May 06, 2007

--Last week Rice made the rounds on the morning talk show circuit, just days after rebuffing a subpoena from House Oversight and Government Reform Committee about the intelligence that was used to make a case for war with Iraq.

she cant even "I dont recall" "I dont remember" etc.. just outright refused a subpoena, can you say contempt of court?! same for gonzales. these people should by all rights be immediately removed from high positions. as good a place as any to start.


Bush's approval rate falls to 28 percent

Sorry the poll results were messed up....
that was supposed to be 28 PEOPLE, NOT %
Michael D. | 05.07.07 - 5:59 am |

they fail to mention this poll was taken from residents of mental facilities or something.


Bush's approval rate falls to 28 percent

Sorry the poll results were messed up....
that was supposed to be 28 PEOPLE, NOT %


Seems people are enthusiastic about the fact that the judge can´t find jurors for the Padilla case. Will you be equally cheerful when it turns out that this strikes the first note in the debate if we should consider electronic jurys?
ak48 | 05.07.07 - 4:58 am | #

I see the "vanishing jury" as more of a clear and present danger at the core of the problem. Electronic Jury's are just a way to cover up a shitty process (purposefully made shitty over the past 100 years):

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr...c/ uchicago.html
Raymond Moley's 1928 study, The Vanishing Jury293, reported the percentage of felony convictions "by jury" and "by confession" in New York State for an eighty-eight year period beginning in 1839. At the outset of this period, only twenty-five percent of the state's felony convictions were by guilty plea. In Manhattan and Brooklyn, the figure was even smaller, fifteen percent. Moley charted a gradual increase in this figure to about eighty percent statewide by the turn of the century, then to ninety percent by 1926.294 In the years following Moley's study, the figure continued to grow. It is ninety-six percent today.295

American criminal procedure has become an administrative process rather than the adjudicative process it once was. Nevertheless, when jury trial was routine, it was a reasonably summary procedure.300 As recently as the 1890s, a felony court apparently could conduct a half-dozen jury trials in a single day.301

The intervening century has seen a proliferation of procedures in contested cases and, as a result, an inability to bring many contested cases to trial. In 1990, the longest criminal jury trial in American history came to an end two years and nine months after it began. This trial did not involve financial machinations of great complexity or an army of white collar defendants; the defendants were members of a preschool staff charged with sexually abusing children at their school. Of the two defendants whose cases reached the jury, one had spent five years in pretrial detention and the other two years. The preliminary hearing in the case had lasted eighteen months. The trial jury heard 124 witnesses; and after paring down the charges, the judge permitted sixty-five allegations of molestation and conspiracy to go to the jury. The jury acquitted one defendant but failed to reach agreement on the other. When a retrial later the same year produced a second hung jury, the prosecutor dismissed all remaining charges. The McMartin Preschool case ruined some lives and cost the taxpayers over $14 million.302


re lww
I seriously doubt the bee death is intentional


Another link to the killing of, amongst other incects, bees. but this relates to radio signals radiation like mobilephone etc.
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=677
Another ingredient for the' killing cocktail'


Further reading:
http://www.aaai.org/AITopics/ htm...awenf.html#more


Too far fetched? Yeah http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/t...tech/ 726837.stm
and of course it could never ever happen here...


Seems people are enthusiastic about the fact that the judge can´t find jurors for the Padilla case. Will you be equally cheerful when it turns out that this strikes the first note in the debate if we should consider electronic jurys?


http://www.rocketboom.com/storie...es/ rb_06_jan_20
IlluminatibodyCount | 05.07.07 - 3:28 am | #
__________________________________________________ ______________
Thanks for the link, that's a good one.


HIV cannot cause AIDS
TimM | 05.06.07 - 9:45 pm | #

Makes me wonder about this supposed fact (we can all see the money train being built around this unfounded statement on wiki):

About a dozen Human papillomavirus (HPV) types (including types 16, 18, 31 and 45) are called "high-risk" types because they can lead to cervical cancer...


LAPD chief offers strongest apology yet
http://www.latimes.com/news/prin...s-pe- california

( He said officers outnumbered the agitators 15 to 1.)
Ha Ha Ha, this is unbelievable.
The Cops outnumbered the crowd 15 to one and go in and baton the people in the Park.
Welcome to the New American Century.


can we get a Billionaire who has a spine and is good,get behind ron Paul??? and crush the testicles of these puppets we are seeing???

for the love of god!!!!!!!!!


http://www.rocketboom.com/storie...es/ rb_06_jan_20


'Police Chief William J. Bratton has expressed "grave concern" about what happened and promised a full investigation. He has said the use of force began while officers were dealing with 50 to 100 "agitators" who threw objects. At the press conference, he said he was "embarrassed for this department and embarrassed for the city we serve."'


what this reminds me of is the incident in Zimbabwe not long ago, where the MDC engaged in deliberate violent provocation. Result, Zimbabwe was condemned world wide.
NOW can US be condemned world wide for this parallel incident of police violence?


Here is a free gift for everyone trying to start a website or working on a video and need some high quality images of 911.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/WTC911.rar
Enjoy....


hahahahahhahaha!!!!


"Bush's approval rate falls to 28 percent "

OMFG!!!! hahahahaha.... sorry this is sooo funny to me.... I am really wonder who that 28 percent is... hahahahah


This is a country of pussy suckers and I don't mean the erotic kind which by the way is an elixer but hthat's another story for another time. What I'm saying is that Bush and cheney invaded Iraq cuz Hussein was going to undersell oil at 18$ a barrel then gas tody would be $1.29 a gallon and Cheney and the oil companies shut Iraq down and NOW American suckers pay close to 3$ or more per gallon. Everytime you pump gas think SUCKER.
Then continue to roll over and play dead like a country of WIMPS!


Directional sound cannon on right now, Military channel, direct tv..........inventor interview


Anunnaki, Mesopotamian, Sumerian(Iraq today), Mayan calander, return of the planet Nibiru


Hey V, Marci just told me that David Hawkins and Field McConnell, the forensic economist from Canada and the ex pilot, just released their video Captain Sherlock Solves 9/11. But they are selling it for $10. I just wrote them a letter blasting them for selling a video of such importance (supposedly anyways) when just about every other 9/11 Truth group out there put their vids on Google Video and asks for donations. I doubt it will have any effect. I searched for the film on p2p but couldn't find it. If you come across it can you put it on your site? I don't mind paying $10 bucks or even a $1000 for that matter for an important video, but this is not the time to block access to 9/11 truth with money. Thanks, man.


Thanks for your comments on my posts, guys.
Everyone who's been here for a while know what an Alex freak I am. I love him to death. But most know I'll get pissed real quick if I think he's being an ass or misinformed. This is just a reminder to everyone to investigate the HIV/AIDS hoax when you have time. It's the only thing Alex is completely off the mark on. Here is a collection of the best AIDS dissident videos out there showing that HIV cannot cause AIDS. Each are made by different groups over the last 10 years, and all are for the general public. At some point I'm going to have to inject myself with HIV positive blood just to show that being HIV positive means absolutely nothing. I'll do it too.
http://www.helpforhiv.com/ (there is a link to the videos on this page)
http://www.aliveandwell.org/
http://groups.msn.com/ AIDSMythEx...ourwebpage.msnw
http://www.rethinkingaids.com/


Family Guy Quote (I am embellishing):

Welcome to Skull and Bones the society with the most powerful people on the planet...you get your very own portfolio...and a percentage of the 9/11 victims fund...


http:// www.achurchinfortcollins....haltnotkill.php
Eric Matthew Schmidt | Homepage | 05.06.07 - 6:13 pm | #

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for this link!!!
Marcianne | 05.06.07 - 8:57 pm | #

Very nice Link, indeed!


np, nice having a couple places to grab..
the index of aj radio used to carry jack blood too there, but stopped.


heres another location for alex jones radio archive if the other address is down:

http://www.gplant.de/

add to fav's if youre a fan that gottahavit.
Sees Things | 05.06.07 - 8:37 pm | #

grab todays show if you missed it or dont have radio access at:

http://globalplantation.org/aj_radio/

enjoy(?)
Sees Things | 05.06.07 - 8:27 pm | #

Muchas Gracias


>>>>>>>>Family Guy at 9pm EST on Fox Parodies Skull and Bones Secret Society


http:// www.achurchinfortcollins....haltnotkill.php
Eric Matthew Schmidt | Homepage | 05.06.07 - 6:13 pm | #
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for this link!!!

Can you email me. marcianne_98@ sbcglobal.net


And if I shall die on the battlefield, carry in your heart forever that I love you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=uMXpokrfblM
TimM | 05.06.07 - 5:03 pm | #
Hi Tim.
These words touch me and is that it should. The battlefield is a creation of the Elitists, those who control the masses, it has been this way for mileniums. Conquering, manipulating, controling, power and fortune. It is a dakest part of human nature, the part that calls from within. Power breeds necessity for more power, money fuels the fires of power.
Ou land has been infiltrated by those who seek these objectives. To realize their dream and fullfill their plans requires pawns and money. The masses supply both. Allow me to say citizens, and I speak of our land, the USA.
Criminals have been characterized as goons with guns, number rackests extortion,robbery, bribery etc. Not to exclude our current stand on drugs, they create opportunity for those of lesser morals, as did alchohol during the 3o's and prohibition. To mention drugs have a price tag equal to gold.
The elitists do not fit the general description of a common criminal. The informed and wealthy realize that goverments are the key to purpose. and goal. It is safe to say their traits are in order, confidence men, generaly latent physcotics, who hire assassins and professionals sold out to money and possition if invoked, or simply loyal to the goal.. In short the last refuge for people driven for power is political. This is the key to peek into Pandoras box. Their seat of power, to dominate the masses and military. We as commoners can not imagine themoney and power at their disposal. Be assured the printing presses for our dollars are working overtime.
Jfk, Rfk, were aware of the MIC and the Elites program for the future, they attempted to stand against them. They were murdered.
I ramble , Im sorry, my point in short is human nature, history, and the takedown of America, our constitution and Bill of rights. The recent action of our present regime demands impeachment, there will not be one. The MIC will grow in every form, the Pols, (puppets of the elite) will get a free card. And the people will foot the bills and pay in blood. This has never changed, only for a while did this country shine, a bright light for the world to behold and to hope for. Now it has become the tormentor,the abuser and deceptor, we have left no choice for other countries to brand us, 911,WMD's,invasions, torture, innocents of over 600,000. in Iraq. over 4 million in Vietnam. Oh say can you see.*Please see. .American people must unite, no matter race.color , creed, religion. Survival of this land and welfare of its people depend on this.
As for the vermen in office my feelings are known by you.


heres another location for alex jones radio archive if the other address is down:

http://www.gplant.de/

add to fav's if youre a fan that gottahavit.


grab todays show if you missed it or dont have radio access at:

http://globalplantation.org/aj_radio/

enjoy(?)


I guess Alex Jones website is the new home for the White House, if you know what I mean....


http://digg.com/politics/ NAFTA_S...As_Key_Player_2

NAFTA superhighway has Giuilani as key player
http://digg.com/politics/ NAFTA_S...As_Key_Player_2
TimM | 05.06.07 - 7:13 pm | #

TY TimM .. and doesnt this just figure too.


and if you wanna know what you are supposed to do in this country
watch the constitution class 1 through seven
free on google
then go preach the gospel the way God tells you tyo do
while founding father material men and women go to the front lines to fight the powers and principalities of darkness of this age
you can do all your prayin
we will do all the fighting
and if you wanna condemn us with half of the bible
"knowing that the most concise depiction God gives of His own nature IS I AM the same today, yesterday and forever"
so
if God said it or did it before it is still in affect
Jesus came to bring the salvation of God to a personal relationship for Jew first then to all the world.
if you wanna condemn me for enacting the laws of this land to keep america from any more criminal elite
and taking america back lawfully by the laws we the people wrote under divine providence
then you go right ahead and do your deed
i recieve your condemnation unto whatever constriction you wanna quote from the scriptures
new test
old test
either way you look at it
My God is The One True God of The Whole Bible
The Truth
The Way
The Life
The Beginning and The End
you can piogeon hole Him into scriptures and forget His Whole Nature for me
I am not willing to divide my God from His Whole Nature nor seperate Him from His Whole Will
God Hates sin
I hate sin
God loves the world unto salvation
I love the world unto salvation
God calls me to lose my life
so be it
i will lay my life down for the gospel and the truth
If I were pursueing a life here for gain and profit
I'd file a 501c3 and cash in on a bunch of preaching that leads people away from the truth about current events
and usher them right into the death camps
as for me and my house
we will serve The Lord
nothing less than try my best for what The Bible says in its entirety
not any one part
but its complete harmony God and His entire Word


This is an awesome docu-drama from the BBC on a possibility of how the world could end.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=241& Itemid=50
I personally don't trust BBC media completely but still some of their programs are really interesting.


NAFTA superhighway has Giuilani as key player
http://digg.com/politics/ NAFTA_S...As_Key_Player_2


if i am in another country under another country law then being a evangelist or making disciples of that nation is under the new covenant
but my friend
you live in america
our law and Gods law are defined and enumerated in the constitution and the bill of rights
men fought and died to free us from tyrrany and these laws are our laws of this land
we can do all the implements of the preaching of The Word and being doers of The Word here in our land
but please do not supercede your overindulgence into "non-action" and call it preaching the gospel
Jesus was sought to be killed many times before he went to the cross
because that was His job
moses killed the abusive egyptian whipmaster
nearly every man of God all through the old testament killed savagely at face value but by Gods calling
now comes the fullfillment of the law at the crucifixion and resurection
fast forward to the united states
brittain imposes ruthless tyrrany upon the colonies
men declare their (our) independence
fight and die for it and secure it with our republic
our constitutional republic with simple enumerated and non enumerated laws
the criminals have subverted and trampled these laws and you say that we have the Godly obligation to do nothing in the face of this evil
we are obligated to administer the law of this land
we are obligated to fight the good fight of faith against tyrrany and tyrants
our warfare is not carnal
meaning we seek not to profit more than is granted us by God under our flag
if you want to live somewhere where they dont have a us constitution then that is yours and everyones right as a person
but it seems to me you want the freedom to fight for what you got but you dont want to fight for that very same freedom
those americans who are not fully brainwashed by the last 100 years of incrementalized media garbage will take up spiritual warfare, biblical warfare, founding father warfare, current events warfare, any and all warfare that we are faced with, and if our blood is not spilled in martyrdom unto the truth, then we will be delivered unto the magistrate at which time we will not take the mark of the beast


We're averaging about two driveby's a week here in Asbury Park NJ... I wish the f%#king lazy cops around here do something besides protecting the drug operations and shaking down rich white kids...


America may have the most diverse opinions on the planet but it also is the most violent modern society on earth. More murders in Detroit each year than the whole of the UK.


Wow sounds like the Academy of Sciences in Russia is actually the last free place in the world. Even in Bush's America nobody is free.......


GOD BLESS RUSSIA!


Gabriel Alan King:

You quote Jesus as saying, "Think not that I am come to destroy the Law."

Jesus Christ indeed did not come to destroy the Law, but he did so something with it: he fulfilled it, as even the same verse you quoted states. (Matthew 5:17) Thus the Law is not as it was before. It does serve an important purpose. It brings knowledge of sin (Romans 3:10, 7:7). It is a "schoolmaster" to lead us to Christ, as stated in Galatians 3:24-25: "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster."

Next, you say, "The Law of God commands us to KILL Molech worshipers, Baal worshipers, Satan worshipers, worshipers of false gods, and any one who would creep in amongst us to undermine the authority of God's holy Laws, statutes, and commandments."

The Law does command to kill followers of Molech, but there is no specific mention of killing the followers of Baal or Satan that I am aware of. (I might well be wrong about this.) But anyway these were non-moral commandments given to Israel, and are part of the old covenant. But Israel did not follow this covenant and now we have a new covenant.

What you say is confounded by the witness of the early Christians who were surrounded by people worshipping pagan gods yet made no attempt to kill those people. And they followed the example of Jesus, who went willingly to the crucifixion when He could have instantly stopped it.

"And if we do not, then the Lord himself holds us in contempt. HIS WORDS, NOT MINE."

Sorry I don't know where it says this.

"We have every right and responsibility to defend ourselves against tryranny and evil oppressions."

Jesus said "Resist not evil" and a couple of verses later said not to resist if someone brings a lawsuit against us. God is the one who will avenge us.

Finally, you give a quotation from Edmund Burke: "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing."

Yes, we certainly don't "do nothing". However, "the weapons of our warfare are not carnal". We do not do evil, and we do not do nothing, but we do good even when others do evil against us. Such people are blessing us and they don't even realize it!

For some more Scriptures bearing on this issue please see:

http:// www.achurchinfortcollins....haltnotkill.php


wheneveryou limp dicks quote Christ as saying love your enemies to defend whimping out and letting evil elite kill your children and women
it saddens me that you know not the God you serve
Jesus was addressing personal relationships which the lawyers and prosecuters of his day were oppressing through over indulging the law and the laws
to extract money from Gods people and falsely sentence them for taxes, fines, bogus offenses, sacrifices, control, servitude and sometimes stoning
they were turning on each other on a personal level to gain wives, lands, moneys, positions, and possessions
they were in a feeding frenzy falsely employing God law to bolster their own hauty despotistic high horse
enforcing wrongly Gods laws to profittheir own self interests
they had fallen far from King Davids example of fighting against true evil
this is the same thing we the people of america are witness to today
our criminal leadership bolster support to go and kill innocent civilians in diverse lands around the world because
they lie and say that the threat is so big and ominous
while we the people know the truth and cant even rally support enough to fight the true evil beast system at its roots
God is displeased with people who do not champion the innocent
Christ Jesus gave us the prophetic vision of His nature in The Revelation
He shows us the actions of The Two Witnesses
ante up your rice sized balls and join the good fight
quit using Christ as an excuse to lazyboy your wet noodle ethics onto the cattle cars
pick up a weapon and get to fightin"


hartford van dyke
wrote
skeleton in uncle sams closet
blueprint and active controls for current false flag ops like 911
the dude was way advanced patriot
they got him in prison in minnesota now
political prisoner
being tortured and treated inhumanely
reading his expose' material from the 1940's is like looking at 911 in a mirror and all the
key elements are nearly a exact image and reflection to a T


I'm so sick of this shit. approval ratings? Fuck these morons, these materialistic, pre-programmed, denial whores. All you had to do was do your homework on the Bu$h family. If you would have done so, it would have been impossible to support this New World Order puppet scum.


And if I shall die on the battlefield, carry in your heart forever that I love you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=uMXpokrfblM


Unlock your handcuffs while being dragged to your local FEMA camp.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/42...trick_revealed/


The deadbolt lock on your house is not secure.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/49...an_francisco_3/


Nazis were famous for this, the brown shirts, they had kids turning in their mothers and fathers and whoever else did not seig hiel with a smile.

YUPPERS !! its called D.A.R.E .. "do mom and dad have GUNS ?!!" is among the first thing asked
-of course then they tell little ones all about drugs they wouldnt even be curious about for another 5-6-8 years, but they understand GUNS when theyre 6-7 no doubt.


Smokey the bears new slogan- "Only you can prevent tyranny."


pp blows. Thank you for your blanket stereotype of "All Americans". By the way, it may help you to know that America is the most opinionistically divided people on the face of the planet. We've got it all here! Greenpeacers, Neo Nazis, global warmers, lefts, rights, ups downs and in betweens, 16 billion differing religions and beliefs. But we love all dem crazy bastards, we love each other, and we love you too, ya little rodent!


ERIC MATTHEW SCHMIDT.
"Think not that I am come to destroy the Law"- Jesus Christ
The Law of God commands us to KILL Molech worshipers, Baal worshipers, Satan worshipers, worshipers of false gods, and any one who would creep in amongst us to undermine the authority of God's holy Laws, statutes, and commandments. And if we do not, then the Lord himself holds us in contempt. HIS WORDS, NOT MINE. We have every right and responsibility to defend ourselves against tryranny and evil oppressions.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing."- Edmund Burke


You people are very typically American - obsessed with your own country and not at all interested about what America does to the rest of the world - ie fuck it up.


EXECUTIVE ORDER #14: COURT IMPOSED PUNISHMENTS FOR MISDEMEANOR CRIMES SHALL BE ADJUSTED WITH LENIENCY ACCORDING TO A PERSONS FINANCIAL OR PHYSICAL MEANS.

EXECUTIVE ORDER #15: NO BIOLOGICALLY PROVEN AND BIRTH CERTIFICATE VALIDATED PARENT CAN HAVE THEIR CHILDREN TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM, OR THEIR SUPREME AUTHORITY DIMINISHED OVER THE CHILD IN ANY WAY, UNLESS ACCUSED AND CONVICTED OF A CRIME BY A DOUBLE JURY. IF THE ACCUSED CANNOT AFFORD VALIDATION- IT SHALL BE AFFORDED TO THEM BY THE STATE, AND VALIDATED BY A MEDICAL CENTER OF THE ACCUSED CHOICE.


State Police and FBI confirmed plane debris 6 miles away from Flight 93 site (CNN Transcript)

http://www.911blogger.com/node/8376#new


Mike Berry is wrong when he says, "Both Christianity and Islam are religions predicated upon violence and should be held to account as such." After Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire, the Church started to be corrupted. A major reason for this was that people "converted" to Christianity because it was now expedient to do so, and eventually there were forced "conversions". (It is impossible to force a true conversion, because your heart has to be changed.) A new brand of "Christianity" was created that used violence to maintain its ends.

But before all this, Christians did not condone violence for any reason, not even for self-defense. They followed Jesus' commandments, "Resist not evil" and "Love your enemies".


EXECUTIIVE ORDER #13: EVERY CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OVER THE AGE OF 18 SHALL BE ENTITLED TO AT LEAST ONE QUARTER ACRE OF LAND. IF WE CANNOT CURVE POPULATION GROWTH, WEALTHY LAND OWNERS MUST SURRENDER LAND AS DEEMED NECESSARY- AND SHALL BE GIVEN JUST AND SUITABLE COMPENSATION "BLUE BOOK" VALUE. NO EXCESSIVE CODES SHALL BE ENFORCED BEYOND THE REASONABLE MEANS OF THE PEOPLE. PEOPLE CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT ON THEIR PROPERTY SO LONG AS IT DOES NOT VIOLATE LATE NIGHT NOISE ORDINANCES, OR NUDITY OR PROFANITY LAWS. PERMITS SHALL ONLY BE REQUIRED FOR ELECTRICAL OR OTHER POSSIBLY HAZARDOUS APPLICATIONS.


Nazis were famous for this, the brown shirts, they had kids turning in their mothers and fathers and whoever else did not seig hiel with a smile. Peacemakers were labled traitors,or not of the motherland. Therfor enemies of the state, mentaly disturbed, terrorists, anarchists, rabble rousers, communists, whatever, do you remember an old saying to conquer one must divide. Fear is the first tool, absolute loyalty is demanded after the conversion.
chris jones | 05.06.07 - 3:21 pm | #

I so far have not found one thing you said that I disagree with. I suppose I am just trying to see the next step. Fascism is a pretext for a one world religion (Hunt UN, DIA Murals). As you said it is divide and conquer. The number one people we need to be warning are the cops, the SWAT guys, the FBI, the CIA. They will be slaughtered, just like in Germany when the next stage of NWO plans come about. Just look at all the anger that is deep inside us...do you think it is a coincidence. We are being led to get so disgusted with government and religion. This implanted anger has been planned 15 years ago. The fight will be a "world identity" v. a "sovereign identity" (whether it is totalitarian of peaceful. If all those hardcore sub-elite fascists knew that Rothchild/Rockefeller plan on using them for more cannon fodder, they would join in a struggle for localized power v. NWO power.


EXECUTIVE ORDER #90010: SAME SEX MARRIAGES ARE OUTLAWED, AND SHALL NOT BE RESPECTED OR ACKNOWLEDGED AS LAWFUL.

EXECUTIVE ORDER #90011: VISUAL PORNOGRAPHY DEPICTING GRAPHIC SEXUAL ACTS ARE HEREBY OUTLAWED. HOW'S THAT FOR " FAMILY VALUES"??? VIOLATORS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO FINES AND OR JAIL TIME.

EXECUTIVE ORDER #90012: FEDERAL OR STATE GOVERNMENTS SHALL NOT PARTICIPATE IN, OR REGULATE THE SALE OF DRUGS. ALL DRUGS SHALL BE LEGALIZED, SHALL BE SOLD WITH THE APPROPRIATE WARNING LABEL INFORMATION, AND SHALL BE LEGALLY AVAILABLE JUST LIKE ALCOHOL, TO EVERYONE WHO IS OVER 21 YEARS OF AGE.


I am grateful there are people like Chris Jones and Sane on this site..this is what debate is about.

FAO the morons who keep defacing this site - read and learn: this is how you agree to disagree - this is how you arrive at resolution with mutual respect for each other, not by plastering perversity all over the place, not by accusation without justification, not by destroying your constitutional rights.


If we every want to eliminate the threat from the NWO elites we have to take away their 2 greatest tools Government and Religion.
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We also have to change and unfortunately most of us aren't willing at the moment, until it affects them personally.

These people are lying on a train track pretending they can't hear the sound of the oncoming train..because they're fed on a diet of lies and selfishness. They are offered technology and access to resources in order to keep them subdued.


I'll think more about it, I truly believe that the moral identity of this country is not ready for illuminati exposing how evil they are. This limits their power greatly. Remove the curtains, it is much more powerful than torture.
sane | 05.06.07 - 11:54 a
Hi S.
Yes there are 3 million, however how many of our cits. would be willing to to go along with the flow, get their chips, and their benefits, and rebuke those old time finatical Americans. Loose their house and car, job, unfortunetly many would point fingers at others. Nazis were famous for this, the brown shirts, they had kids turning in their mothers and fathers and whoever else did not seig hiel with a smile. Peacemakers were labled traitors,or not of the motherland. Therfor enemies of the state, mentaly disturbed, terrorists, anarchists, rabble rousers, communists, whatever, do you remember an old saying to conquer one must divide. Fear is the first tool, absolute loyalty is demanded after the conversion.


haloscasn fucked my next 5 E.O's


The bottom line is that Religion and Government are concepts that have out lived their usefulness. If we every want to eliminate the threat from the NWO elites we have to take away their 2 greatest tools Government and Religion.
IMPEACH | 05.06.07 - 1:20 pm | #
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OK, now I know it is bullshit. The NWO plan is to remove government and religion for a New World Order. Clever doublespeak. It used to be rare to see two contradictory opinions in the same statement. Nice technique. If you are not familiar with this technique, I will explain...
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DOUBLESPEAK:
"Ignorance is Strength."- Big Brother
"War is Peace."- Big Brother
"Freedom is Slavery"-Big Brother
"He knows that we are waging this war for a better peace, that we are fighting for the happiness of people who have so often been oppressed by their governments. No power in the world will make us deny our duty, or forget even for a moment our historical task of maintaining the freedom of our people." - Joseph Goebbels, chief Nazi propagandist
"Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and associations; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed."- Adolph Hitler's 1933 speech calling for 'an Enabling Act' for 'the protection of the People and the State' after the catastrophic Reichstag fire
"The reason we start a war is to fight a war, win a war, thereby causing no more war!" - George W. Bush, The first Presidential debate
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HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? HOW DOES LOGIC GET REMOVED FROM ARGUMENT? How do they get away with fooling us all the time?
"A nation of well-informed men, who have been taught to know and prize the rights that God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins!" ­ Benjamin Franklin
"What luck for the rulers that men do not think." - Adolf Hitler
"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people." - John Adams
"What we're talking about is nothing less than rescuing a democracy that is so polarized it is in danger of being paralyzed and pulverized. Alarming words, I know. But the realities we face should trigger alarms. Free and responsible government by popular consent just cannot exist without an informed public." - Bill Moyers
"Is it any wonder that we are a confused and frightened nation, haunted and hounded by dark forces, on the brink of world war, ready to sacrifice the very things we are fighting for? ...Fear stops them from thinking clearly and puts their minds into a highly suggestive state. Once they are in a suggestive state, war seems like peace to them, aggression ensures safety, and throwing themselves into a sea of trouble saves them. It is classic trance logic." - The Madness Of America, by Jennifer Van Bergen
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EXAMPLE OF ERODING LOGIC
"This great, powerful nation is motivated not by power for power's sake, but because of our values. If everybody matters, if every life counts, then we should hope everybody has the great God's gift of freedom." - George W. Bush, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Jan. 29, 2003
"You see, here's what America and Americans believe -- that freedom is not America's gift to the world, that freedom is the Almighty's gift to each and every individual who lives in the world." - George W. Bush, Little Rock, Arkansas, May 5, 2003
"There ought to be limits to freedom....Some people have too much freedom." - George W. Bush August 3, 2002
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INSIGHT INTO THE PLAN FOR NWO:
Illuminati Chaos Theory (or how to bring about a New World Order): PROBLEM-->REACTION-->SOLUTION
1920's Germany:Massive illuminati created depression-->Hopelessness and cronic shame of a once great land-->Purify our country through genocide and preemptively attack others to ensure a master race
2001 USA: Terrorism-->We can die anytime, anywhere-->Preemptive wars and eradicating the bill of rights
2008 USA: Extremist religions and government-->The core of religions (not the extremists) and the essence of Government (not the elites pulling the strings) are killing us-->Erase the borders and extinguish God
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FINAL SOLUTION:
Through each of these Illuminati created Chaoses, the problem was planned in advance, the reaction was controlled (media, whispers), and the solution added more chains of slavery to each individual on the planet. We have truly gotten to the point where extinguishing God and erasing borders seems like a rational solution--guys this is the greatest scam in the history of the world. It is the end game for our planet in shifting power on a massive scale. Instead of the few controlling the many, we will bring about the one controlling all.
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Side note: Matrix, Highlander, Superman, Spiderman are conditioning for us to look at "THE ONE" as rational.


-Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
Marcianne | 05.06.07 - 1:48 pm | #

Hi Marcy. Ar least Herman had the courage to admit he was a bag of human waste. He once compared himself to a janitor in a mans lavoratory, no difference he said, only i got in with different people, he could be me and I him.
At least he was a honest bloodsucking parrasite.
Nice to hear from ya Marcy. My regards and hugs.


This French leader sounds like a Blair No.2.

I haven't seen his policies expressed in greater detail beyond generlisation..eg "a War on Unemployment".

That is a meaningless statement - be very careful what you wish for, France. Be very careful indeed.

In my country this Blair also instigated a "war" against Iraq, against his own poeple as well: the unemployed, the sick, the disabled..the honest..the people who want a decent wage, decent working conditions and the choice NOT to be forced to work all the hours under the sun for a pittance just so they can spend the rest of their live's competing with global sweatshops.

All this happens in one of the most expensive nations on eath, one of the most over-crowded. We are working all hours for what? For nothing. Our industrial power-house is a joke, like our schools, our hospitals, our roads..we are leaved in droves..and what do we get?

"War" decalered on the symptom and not the cause. If you want to follow this route then fine, just don't be too surprised when you too end up like a multi-cultural hell-hole. These leaders are liars, war-mongers - they are globalists at heart and they are all in this together. If you care about your culture and your history you will think very carefully about where your priorities lie.


EXECUTIVE ORDER #90005: NO REGISTERED VOTER IN THE U.S.A. WILL RETAIN THE RIGHT TO THE PRIVACY OF THIER VOTING RECORD. ALL VOTES IN THE U.S.A. SHALL BE POSTED ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB INCLUDING ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS FOR VERIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.06.07 - 1:23 pm | #
Gabe
Dont we wish that it sere so, good one Gabe.


WHY HAS AMERICA INSTALLED A PRO-AMERICAN LEADER IN FRANCE? ASSHOLES!


Stephen stepolass show discussed the GOP debate today and they mentioned Ron Paul once while calling him a libertarian. They twisted the debate for far I was wondering if they were watching the same show.


Thanks for the Hermann Goering quote We woudn't have war if people just wouldn't go fight for these d*ck heads. It happened in Guatamala, the young people there got together and decided not to fight each other in the civil wars. And they stopped. You don't hear much about that in our news, you won't. Who wants to die for the Rockafellars or the Royal Family they think were all just cattle-their property.


Ron Paul did exceedingly well in the debates, think of the preassure he was under-the only candidate that was not a sell out when all the politicians are, the whole sysem . The whole media set to spin against him. The other candidates watching him like snakes in a pit...and he pulled it off, got his message out held up under the glare and won the internet polls!!! Ron Paul came through!!! Tell everyone about Ron Paul, report the media dirty tricks, do everything you can to help RP. Man that first debate was exciting to watch-keep it up Ron Paul.


Furthermore, as your new emergency president, I offer this. Any one in the government who knows them self to be guilty of treason and or other crimes against humanity- I give you until September 11, 2008 to flee the country. If you take my offer, I give you my word, you shall not be pursued or prosecuted for any crimes previously committed. If you ever enter within to the borders of the United States again- or continue in willfull malice against America- We shall hunt you to the ends of the Earth and exact swift justice upon you, and those that knowingly give you safe harbor.
I hereby immediately withdraw all military forces of the United States from foreign countries, to return home to their families.
I hereby issue and declare warning unto all nations of the Earth. I, the new acting emergency President of the United States, do hereby issue warning, that any nation or nations who seek to harm America or any of it's citizens, shall be met head on and without fear. Agressve action against the United States shall be immediately considered an act of War, and I shall not hesitate to release up to and including the full power of our military arsenal against you, until your military resources are fully neutralized. We will not be threatened. And a nuclear or similar genocidal attack launched against the United States by ANY country- even the smallest country- shall be considered "Conspiracy", and I shall willfully deploy America's entire nuclear arsenal against the world. In other words- If we fall, we are going to take you with us.

EXECUTIVE ORDER# 90006: I HEREBY REPEAL THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACT OF 1913. America shall return immediately to coining, printing, and issuing it's own currency.

EXECUTIVE ORDER # 90007: USURY IS NOW ILLEGAL, UNLAWFUL, AND PUNISHABLE BY FINE OF DOUBLE THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT PROFITED THEREBY.

EXECUTIVE ORDER # 90008: MONEY SHALL NO LONGER BE A DETERMINING FACTOR IN CANDIDACY FOR POLITICAL OFFICE. A NEW SYSTEM SHALL BE DEVISED ENABLING PEOPLE OF LITTLE OR NO MEANS TO ATTAIN ELECTION TO PUBLIC OFFICE. PUBLIC OFFICE MUST BE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER.

EXECUTIVE ORDER #90009: ALL BANKING, INSURANCE COMPANIES, AND HEALTH CARE SHALL SERVE THE PEOPLE ONLY. THESE SHALL NO LONGER BE "PROFIT" INDUSTRIES. THEREFORE THEY SHALL BE FUNDED BY OUR TAX DOLLARS TO SERVE US, SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE CHEATS THE SYSTEM, THEY WILL KNOW THAT THEY ARE ONLY CHEATING THEMSELVES.


OMG. straw poll


Support Ron Paul in this straw pole.

http://www.afa.net/petitions/str...l/ strawpoll.asp


Just wanted to pass along this quote:
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Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials


Impeachement is necessary. Without this begginning nothing will change, they know that.
The criminals are free, independent of what the citizens may beleive. Nancy proved this, with her infamous quote, Impeachment is off the table..
In high seas in a boat without a rudder,NO, we are being used, abused, demoralized, betrayed, and led to the slaughter, economically and physically. We invaded a SOVEREIGN NATION under the pretext of WMD's, and there were none. YET, 600 k innocents were killed during this preiod of our invasion.
IMPEACHMENT. Any pol who voted for this invasion, detained, any corporation that profited examined and corporate heads detained, and all profits frozen. Each individual with knowledge of 911,WMD's, etc. detained, assests frozen. Then swift justice.
Public knowledge a must, as with Nixons fiasco, watergate coverup, or do we forget. The pettiness of his crime compared to this gang is laughable in context.
I would like to see this group frogmarched through Badgad, the morgues, the hospitols, the graveyards, our vets cementarys, our Vets Hospitols. Let them ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN TO THE VICTIMS THEY WERE INNOCENT IN ALL OF THIS.
If our forefather rose from their graves they would lynch these bags of human waste in front of the Capital building.


Hey

The cat is out of the bag. The CFR is starting a global currency and therefore a global dictatorship.

This second article is more discussion against the global warming lie.

http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/20..._steil- cfr.html

http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/


Extreme circumstances call for extreme measures.
Since our Government is totally criminal and has sentenced us all to slavery or death, I am hereby enacting the authority granted to me under the Constitution in regards to treason and betrayal of the people and our secured rights and liberties against any "appearance" of Law that would seek or serve to undermine our Constitutionally gauranteed freedoms and protections.

I speak on behalf of "we", the FREE people of the United States of America. I am issuing a warrant of arrest to be served upon any and all parties and or Law making bodies that have violated their oaths of office and responsibility to the people and their safety and liberty. I am enacting emergency executive powers that now superceed and overide any existing Laws or political entities in the United States- other than the original Documents of the KJV Bible, the Constitution, and the Bill of rights. The military is now under my command, unless Alex Jones wants to pick up the ball.

My first order as your new emergency President, is and Executive Order.
Executive Order #90001: ALL SECRECY IS HEREBY OUTLAWED IN RESPECTS TO THE OPERATIONS WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE GOVERNMENT SHALL NOT KEEP SECRETS FROM THE PEOPLE UNDER ANY AND ALL CIRCUMSTANCES HENCEFORTH, AND FOREVER MORE.

EXECUTIVE ORDER #90002: I HEREBY NULLIFY EXECUTIVE ORDERS #10995 AND EVERY EXECUTIVE ORDER ISSUED THEREAFTER.

EXECUTIVE ORDER #90003: ANY PROPOSED LEGISLATION THAT IS RUMORED TO BE CONTRARY TO BASIC CHRISTIAN GOODNESS, THE CONSTITUTION, OR THE BILL OF RIGHTS, SHALL BE IMMEDIATELY BROADCASTED VIA ALL RADIO AND TELEVISION EMERGENCY BROADCAST NETWORKS. POLITICIANS CONVICTED OF SUCH, SHALL BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM OFFICE.

EXECUTIVE ORDER #90004: MEMBERS OF SECRET SOCIETIES OR ORGANIZATIONS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO HOLD ANY STATE OR FEDERAL PUBLIC OFFICE, OR EMPLOYMENT BY STATE OR FEDERAL ENTITIES, OR TO BE CONTRACTED AS SUBSIDIARIES BY STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND OR AGENCIES.

EXECUTIVE ORDER #90005: NO REGISTERED VOTER IN THE U.S.A. WILL RETAIN THE RIGHT TO THE PRIVACY OF THIER VOTING RECORD. ALL VOTES IN THE U.S.A. SHALL BE POSTED ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB INCLUDING ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS FOR VERIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC.


I know it is probably unpopular here but Mike Berry is EXACTLY right. It is not fringe elements of Religions that cause all the problems, it is the religions themselves. Because religion is nothing more than brainwashing.

Religions teach you that you are nothing and an allpowerful god is everything. Once you believe that then men running the religion tell you that they know what this all powerful god expects of you and if you don't follow exactly what they say you can expect to burn in hell for eternity.

The bottom line is that Relgion and Government are concepts that have out lived their usefullness. If we every want to eliminate the threat from the NWO elites we have to take away their 2 greatest tools Government and Religion.


-it's a theory, that just might need some attention.
Sees Things | 05.06.07 - 1:01 pm | #

Yeah I have the same theory, but another one popped up after thinking about the peacekeepers and the need to kill Daniel Perle, possibly Tllman. Also looking at the Bilderberg agenda, there is no extremist controlling base for islam. Saudi never attacked a country, Iran is going moderate. The intention is that Iraq become an Al-Qaeda stronghold. The only reason Iraqis allowed Al-Qaeda in was due to frustration with Haditha and hundreds of Black Ops false flag bombs like the one that killed the soccer kids.

SAS/CIA have been found blowing up these bombs all over.

The intention must be to show that Al-Qauda is needed. That is why Rumsfeld was so sad when Zarqawi died. I think there is a more sinister plot than the DU poisoning (as if that were not enough).

George is reading the Al-Qaeda charter and the number 2 Al-Qaeda guy is reading Rove's talking points. They obviously are in harmony.


short visit home (if they saved to pay to get home) and called back to duty quickly to a depleted uranium sandbox warzone, they dont want people here to see it on a large scale, what is really happening to people. 4th tour, 5th tour ?!
-it's a theory, that just might need some attention.


they WONT, because millions of us would see their health deteriorate rapidly
Sees Things | 05.06.07 - 12:21 pm | #

This highly plausible theory really sucks. If you guys don't know more about how fucked up things are over their, look into this site by a master communicator:
http://masters-of-war.org/ deathc...thculture2.html
sane | 05.06.07 - 12:30 pm |

yes it sure does suck, but its obvious to me as one of the reasons they refuse to stop this crap and bring our people home.


Wow, this one hurts. Only in an illuminati controlled world is the mortality rate of a peacekeeper higher than a soldier at war. I'm gonna need to look into my trilateral commission (Jesus/Gandhi/MLK) publications for advice on this one...

9 Peacekeepers Die in Egypt Plane Crash
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...ypt-plane- crash
EL-NAKHL, Egypt — A plane carrying foreign peacekeepers across the Sinai desert crashed Sunday near a stretch of highway where it had tried to make an emergency landing, killing eight French soldiers and a Canadian, officials said. Capt. Mohammed Badr, a police officer in Sinai, said the plane went down 50 miles from the nearest major town, el-Nakhl. It appeared the Canadian-made DeHavilland DHC-6 Twin Otter tried to land on the mountain highway but clipped a truck and crashed nearby, said Normand St. Pierre, a spokesman for the Multinational Force and Observers, an independent force created by Egypt and Israel to monitor their border in the Sinai after a 1979 peace deal. The crash wiped out more than half of the 15-member French contingent and destroyed the mission's sole fixed-wing aircraft, St. Pierre said. The aircraft was on a training mission and carried a "higher than normal" load of passengers and crew.


they WONT, because millions of us would see their health deteriorate rapidly
Sees Things | 05.06.07 - 12:21 pm | #

This highly plausible theory really sucks. If you guys don't know more about how fucked up things are over their, look into this site by a master communicator:
http://masters-of-war.org/ deathc...thculture2.html


ALL religions are the most serious impediment to our progession as a species!

'THE END OF FAITH'

the whole issue of religious beliefs...has placed our entire species on the brink of catastrophe!

Mike Berry | 05.06.07 - 11:58 am | #

Those lines are the exact talking points from a 1992 meeting with Rothchild and Rockefeller. [Google video "UN Hunt"]

The plan was to hijack the three major religions by extremists so that everyone will give up religion in favor of a NEW WORLD ORDER RELIGION of mystical celestial knowledge.

This will assist the NWO plan of bringing down the borders as well.

So I ask you, do you really believe this crap as an uninformed citizen who has been trained to follow 15 year old plans or do you have some "special" information?


Mike Berry | 05.06.07 - 11:58 am | #

Do you truly believe this?
sane | 05.06.07 - 12:18 pm | #

no kidding, sorry but godlessness is one of thier favorite tools. I may not believe in any socialized religion, but no one can EVER convince me there is no god.


If you haven't seen this 8 minute clip this is good about the NWO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=d8LzLRU35CY


I knew a "kid" did gulfwar 1, nice guy, but you could see it he was AMPED, PUMPED far beyond normal, like a steroid amphetamine nightmare. I cant blame him, he didnt do this, he only knows he's an adrenaline junkie. bring the troops home? they WONT, because millions of us would see thier health deteriorate rapidly.. and it just might upset us (maybe?) for sure halliburton blackwater needs to be stopped, and since theyve moved thier HQ offshore, all the more reason.. how dare cheney give no-bid sweetheart deals and spend the big bucks to a company not IN the US.. that and what they are about, is ALL treasonous.


Mike Berry | 05.06.07 - 11:58 am | #

Do you truly believe this?


Sane, Please tell of details of what your talking about, OK? The Negroponte/Disney deal was worked out.
What deal, please?
9-11 TRUTHER! | 05.06.07 - 11:52 am | #

Sorry, my screw up. Norquist, not Negroponte. It is heretofore redacted. Norquist/Disney deal (based purely on speculation-told you guys to double check my ramblings).

More info here:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=13877#72098


so heres the steps
make ron paul and gavins ???
the pres/ vice pres
ron teats down the fed & irs
we rebuild
all perps are arrested and tried for treason
this is the only non violent path
all other paths lead to systematic concentration death-camps for the masses
right here right now is all we got
if we dont take it back now
they will implement their final stroke
i am not predicting anything
i am stating the obvious
if your enemy erects a death machine outside your gate
you dont have to assume anything
he intends to unleash it on you
they have hundreds of death machines in place to steam roll over us in a systematic fashion
al great and small will be forced to submit or be divided and killed
or worse
supply the beast system with forced labor or death goon brigades to fight antichrists war for him
resistance is the key
resist it all
resist it today
resist the nwo
resist the criminal empire elite
we now step through to the other side and the guilty are guilty, the trial is allready done
the three branches of our own government are fully corrupted and turned to the dark side
they do not practice law
they further the nwo satanic agenda
we must stop them now by any and all means with every breath, every bullet


Sane, I do try to keep my actions in productive mode, either by TRYING like HELL to educate sheeple on truth of 9-11 or such, but ALSO plan for worse case scenario's! "I guess the fear keeps me active, but I try to direct my energy in a productive way." I too have fear! Fear of being taken to one of those FEMA camps, which I am SURE I would be on "red list" and use my energy to DEFEND myself and my family BESIDES trying to wise the stupid, gullible, sheeple up to TRUTH on 9-11 and BOGUS " war on terrorism" which IS pure BOGUS! And ONLY meant to SCARE ALL citizens of world into willingly giving up their freedoms for TYRANNY, OPPRESSION AND TO FORCE THEM INTO WORSHIPPING SATAN AND TAKING "MARK OF BEAST" TOO, I KID YOU NOT! AND I WILL NOT GO WITHOUT A FIGHT! Be it marching and protesting against them OR OTHERWISE! Like the song says, "I will NOT go quietly"!


Sane, IF this were true, "Non-violent action can paralyze establishment in an instant and bring it to its knees." WHY are we STILL in Iraq, given the many protests? THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT HOW MUCH WE PROTEST NOR HOW MANY MARCH! They ONLY care about AIPAC and Zionist agenda and serving Satan and NWO! They DON'T have to put ALL 300 million in FEMA camps, just enough to scare the SHIT out of rest and into submission! And we are NOT saying to "sit around" and wait for them to come "get us" PREPARE FOR IT AND DOLLAR COLLAPSING TOO! That is what I am telling people to do! Stock up on ALL survival gear, including guns and lots of ammo, too! And canned foods and ALL survival gear, including buying some gold and silver coins too! THEY ARE NOT LISTENING, SANE! NOR WILL THEY! Wake up to that fact! Even IF and BIG IF EVERYONE mass protested in U.S. THEY WOULD NOT LISTEN! THEY ARE HELL BENT ON NWO AND WORSHIPPING SATAN! AND BRINGING THE ANTI-CHRIST TO POWER! I kid you NOT! And supporting pure evil, Zionist, AIPAC agenda and pure evil PNAC plans!


Normally I tend to side with the anti-mainstrean viewpoints expressed on this website, especially those regarding the cowardice and co-option of the media, and the inexorable march toward a fascist/totalitarian world...
However, I must say that the recent article (May 5th 2007) regarding Islam (by Charlie Reese at lewrockwell.com) is Bullshit. Both Christianity and Islam are religions predicated upon violence and should be held to account as such. In fact, ALL religions are the most serious impediment to our progession as a species! I will not belabour the point in this limited format, but would STRONGLY suggest that anyone who considers themselves a free-thinker in ANY way check out the book 'THE END OF FAITH' by Sam Harris. That pretty well sums up religion 100% correctly, and his analysis of Islam blows any apologist excuse regarding its excesses as the work of "just a few fanatics' right out of the water!
A truly mind-opening book that sets the record straight on just how badly the whole issue of religious beliefs not based on ANY sound rationale whatsoever has placed our entire species on the brink of catastrophe!


NewConstitutionIowaMilitia, I agree with you 100%! ONLY law abiding people care about laws! NOT these Satanistic mass murdering treasonous bastards! Sane, Do you want to try to reason with these mass murdering bastards when they try to cart you ass to one of these FEMA camps? Or call WORTHLESS, IN BED WITH THEM IN CONGRESS, on their asses? Much less, have foreign troops knock on your door, which I totally believe Bush and cohorts have planned for most of us!


But what are ya going to do when they man is knocking down your door.
And coming to take you away? Wave a paper and pen at them? Scream for your lawyer?
Remember. All the lawyers will be on their side when that happens.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.06.07 - 11:38 am | #

Well there are 300 million of us. What has us go crazy is the fear of this. They obviously do not yet have the FEMA camps for 300 million so barring a Halliburton-Dubai weather device (just making it up , ok), we should have at least a few more days.

I guess the fear keeps me active, but I try to direct my energy in a productive way. Sitting around all day waiting for them to come take me away (reminds me of an old song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h?v=Yrra- WkpqeE ) is kind of what the wizards want.

Non-violent action can paralyze establishment in an instant and bring it to its knees. The LA police action was a test. They are testing our acceptance/outrage to fascism. We need to protest those fascist "tests" whenever they happen.

I'll think more about it, I truly believe that the moral identity of this country is not ready for illuminati exposing how evil they are. This limits their power greatly. Remove the curtains, it is much more powerful than torture.


Sane, Please tell of details of what your talking about, OK? The Negroponte/Disney deal was worked out.
What deal, please?


NewConstitutionIowaMilitia, They won't be put into apartment gulags, but those 800 FEMA "civilian detention camps" or beheaded on Red list, unless they want to live under TOTAL tyranny and make it to "blue list" or "green list"!? And I will NOT be put into a FEMA camp, PERIOD! NOT WILLINGLY, ANYWAY!


http://www.whatreallyhappened.co...OK/ wtcbomb.html
Proves what I have been saying! SOME in FBI and CIA are pure treasonous, mass murderers!Period! FBI was involved in coverup of CIA murder of JFK, and also Secret Service was involved in JFK murder TOO! FBI also was involved and HELPED carry out FIRST bombing of WTC and also helped do OKC bombing and 9-11 TOO! Wake UP sheeple! FBI + CIA + NSA=KGB and WORSE!


I tell ya right now. If these people win at their game. You'll see every teacher you ever knew, Every person in lower governmetn, every person in law enforcement trying to do good, every family member of people who are good people, Murderered. Every Book will be burned in the streets. Every way of life you know now will be destroyed.
People will be pushed into apartment gulags. People will be given their Jobs each Day.
It will be like living in a Prison. But without the Bars. You screw up/ Theyjust shoot ya where ya stand.


>>>>More Disney/DC Madam cover up

"Some of her escorts told her of clients they thought were prominent. One customer in particular had told them he worked in the White House. In dramatic tones, he told the story of evacuating the presidential residence during the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

Using details gleaned from the phone records, researchers matched the identity of the storyteller: no dice. The man worked near the White House, not in it. He had apparently exaggerated his importance.

That wasn't the only false lead. Another number in Palfrey's records traced back to a phone number belonging to the head of a recognized educational institution. A closer study revealed his number was the same as one linked to a popular escort with the service, although the area code was different. When ABC News called, the man denied he had ever contacted the service but noted that he had for years been plagued with numerous hang-up calls to his phone, often late at night. Now, he said, he thinks he knows why."


50 lbs of phone records and we are supposed to believe that this will dissuade us from seeing the obvious? Negroponte got named. The Negroponte/Disney deal was worked out.
The fluff piece hit the news and the rest was shredded.

Case closed, nothing to see here, put your head back in the sand.


We should advocate powerful, determined, passionate action everywhere. That action should always adhere to total non-violence. That is my belief and I do not see anything so far that will change it.

I truly felt that there was another way up until very recently. The more I have seen, the more I realize that collective, passionate non-violent action during this time of moral uncertainty is the most powerful weapon.
sane | 05.06.07 - 7:23 am | #

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I love ya man, and I love your determination. And I respect your view. But what are ya going to do when they man is knocking down your door.
And coming to take you away? Wave a paper and pen at them? Scream for your lawyer?
Remember. All the lawyers will be on their side when that happens.
Randy Weaver only escaped because the media slit its own throat, in the public eye.

I know one thing. Many will be fooled in taking too the wrong side, in this fight against evil. Unless they are properly educated on what it is, they are facing. But you know this already.

Remember the saying? " united we stand , divided we fall'.

Well? Look around at all the diverse groups who think they are fighting a cause? But really are being manipulated by driven agendas and controlls out of there hands?
Many of these agendas are control groups!


Bloody thirsty blood sucker war worshipers like Juliani should never be elected to power. They are a threat for humanity. Those who vote for this evil man must have a short circuit in there brains.

Have you already forgotten 911 and the evidence that was disposed of which is a criminal offence ???No serious investigation was done.


911 was an inside job, remember before voting


>>>>>>>>>>ABC KILLS DC MADAM EVIDENCE
(I can't believe she trusted illuminati Disney with these records...lesson for the rest of you.)
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ AB...madam_0504.html
ABC: Most of 'DC madam' clients aren't 'newsworthy'

On ABC's 20/20, Deborah Jeane Palfrey spoke about the upscale escort service that she ran in Washington D.C., in a story which has captivated the nation's capital as many wonder what possible power brokers may have been on the clientele list. Palfrey said that the authorities aren't interested in the list of reportedly 1,000 names of her former clients that the "DC madam" turned over to ABC. Deputy Secretary of State Randall Tobias resigned last Friday "twenty-four hours after confirming to 20/20" that he'd been a client, and admitted to receiving massages from an escort.


Who is Larry Potts and the rest? Name sounds familar?
9-11 TRUTHER! | 05.06.07 - 11:18 am | #

I wrote that (forgot to sign it). Mr. Potts is an FBI agent that was identified by Terry Nichols as a co-conspirator in OK city. He also was involved with Waco. He also have the shoot to kill orders in Ruby Ridge.

What a great guy.


Sane, You make some good points about contacting pastor! That said AAA, why don't you ask pastor of one of us or both can contact him about 9-11 truth? And if he says OK then we will? Otherwise, I too have some good websites for 9-11 truth info: http://killtown.911review.org/od...ities/ 2001.html,
http://911research.wtc7.net/re91...s.org/ news.php( I especially like this website), http://www.reopen911.org/, http://www.septembereleventh.org/ These are just SOME of many 9-11 truth websites! You need to tell your former pastor that ALL of us in 9-11 truth movement are giving out FREE DVD's at one point or another! Even Alex's "Terrorstorm" is FREE online, and many other 9-11 truth video's as well, SO just HOW are any of us making "money" on it? I personally have SPENT money trying to get people waken up to truth about 9-11! I BUY some pre made DVD"s from a 9-11 truther to give out FREE, but people don't always watch a FREE DVD, so if you charge them minumum amount they are MORE likely to watch one! That said, I have NEVER changed anyone for DVD's I give out! It has actually COST me $$ to help spread the truth about 9-11 but our freedom's KNOW NO PRICE! The fellow 9-11 truther I buy them from, sells them at small price to just cover price of blank DVD's and cost of mass producing them! So tell your former pastor these things! If you want more websites, or more info I have TONS! Like I have said here before, I AM AN AVID 9-11 researcher! I have done research for 5+ years now and said 6 months after 9-11 that it WAS an inside job and it WAS! I WOULD BET MY LIFE ON IT AND ALL I OWN! LET ME REPEAT THIS FOR THOSE SKEPTICS OUT THERE, I WOULD BET MY LIFE, EVERYTHING I OWN OR HOPE TO OWN THAT 9-11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WITH HELP FROM ISRAELI MOSSAD AGENTS TOO!
And to Anonymous, Who is Larry Potts and the rest? Name sounds familar?


TREASON! YET THE FUCKING GULLIBLE, NAIVE, UNPATRIOTIC AMERICAN'S JUST LET THOSE IN OUR OWN GOV'T DO THIS BULLSHIT AND DON'T DO ANYTHING! Much less riot in streets!
9-11 TRUTHER! | 05.06.07 - 10:57 am | #

We are being led to have this much anger...you have to see this it is imperative. We need to find the puppetmasters. Do not let the curtains and the cannon fodder cause misplaced energy. We need to bring the curtains down and expose the wizards. Torturing our gov officials that are also pawns will only lead to short term faux-freedom.

Hitler gained so much power from the exact same anger we are being led to have right now, you need to see this. It is more important than life and death...it is removing the bonds of slavery for the next 10 generations. That is a fight worthy of my time.


but this is life and death
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 05.06.07 - 10:50 am | #

I cannot argue with that statement, but many battles have been lost by not understanding proper tactics. As you may know I have been in "Gravel-Paul" delirium recently. These guys know tactics, strategy, logistics, intelligence. Just read Sun Tzu. If you keep fighting the same battle and coming up with the same result, you need to try different tactics: flank your opponent, engage in partial negotiations. Lead them to a lopsided battle field.

If you start out, "this is life and death," the person might shut down. So...

Lead them to a lopsided battlefield-Building 7, Cheney running NORAD and giving stand down orders, Rumsfeld misplacing $2.3 trillion 9/10/2001.

Lay truth mines on his matrix battlefield using whispers..."hey what ever happened to that anthrax investigation?"

"did you know that halliburton was just recently selling nuclear technology to iran, should we be worried?"

I'll think of other stuff, but a lot of these I learn ironically from debunkers-thanks guys!


Sane, "Don't turn to the dark side Luke" I WANT JUSTICE AND NOW! They put an innocent 10 year old kid in Gitmo, God ONLY knows what that poor kid had to endure because these Satanistic, mass murdering, sodomizing children bastards did to him! And YES, I want them to be tortured for ALL they have done to people worldwide! I WANT JUSTICE! But I am cynical and we will probably NOT GET ANY! Hell, we didn't get any with JFK murder! And look how long gullible, naive, UNPATRTIOTIC American's let that BULLSHIT go on! We SHOULD have ALL DEMANDED a LONG time ago, a REAL INVESTIGATION AND REAL PUNISHMENT FOR THOSE IN CIA WHO WERE INVOLVED AND REST, LIKE BUSH SR. WHO DID HELP KILL KENNEDY! And Senator Arlen Spector too! And Johnson SHOULD HAVE HANGED FOR IT TOO AS WELL AS OTHER TREASONOUS STUFF! Yet, UNPATRIOTIC AS HELL SHEEPLE JUST LET IT HAPPEN AND GO ON! I was too young at time but adults SHOULD HAVE FUCKING DEMANDED TRUTH RIGHT THERE AND THEN ON JFK MURDER! This BULLSHIT, TREASONOUS SHIT OF WAITING 75 YEARS WHEN ALL WILL BE DEAD IS BULLSHIT! That SHOULD tell ALL they did that so those alive would NOT be put in prison for TREASON! YET THE FUCKING GULLIBLE, NAIVE, UNPATRIOTIC AMERICAN'S JUST LET THOSE IN OUR OWN GOV'T DO THIS BULLSHIT AND DON'T DO ANYTHING! Much less riot in streets!


Sane, Why do you say "I kinda don't think it is appropriate for me to do that"? Anyone we can convince that 9-11 official story is a LIE, we need to TRY! Be it pastor or otherwise! Especially really since we are fighting pure evil, Satan worshipping bastards here! AA, I will send him some info if you like? Will CC you copies too if you want? Is this OK with you or not?
9-11 TRUTHER! | 05.06.07 - 10:48 am | #

Well for two reasons:

1) anonymity: I believe that the freedom people have in blogging may be compromised if random emails are thrown up and other send to those emails. That is all we need another press release saying "bloggers push their agenda using technology that the gov needs to control"

2) I have no relationship with this person, so obviously someone who does have the information would be more appropriate from a basic communication standpoint.

I am not saying in the right context I would pass up the opportunity to tell anyone what I feel. But in this situation it is intruding in a random way with no context. In my humble opinion that is inappropriate, especially when the articles I mentioned should create a foundation to either resolve the situation on its own or create a context. I am open to criticism with this line of thought.


personally i think we should compile lists of all the pastors emails accross the country
and email the hell right out of them


well i think of it like this
i have spent months giving him all the evidence
he mocks the truth
i love this guy like a brother
so if i know the shit storm thats coming
and i dont do everything in my power to wake him from his slumber
what kind of friend or brother am i?
i dont condone giving emails out either
but this is life and death
not to mention i gave his church my tithes and offerings for years
thinking that i was pure unto God
only to find out that this pastor
whom i trusted and condoned
cant tell his truth ass from his lie hole
email him
i hope i make the front page
put me on the most wanted list
make him have to face the truth


AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o, Do you want me to send your former pastor info on 9-11 and CC copies to you too? I will! I have ALOT of info! I wished I could make my OWN DVD on 9-11, and there would be NO,NO doubt into anyone's minds after watching my DVD that 9-11 WAS an inside job!


2. Then send PURE EVIL, TREASONOUS Bush and Cheney to Gitmo and torture them and rest of cohorts and see how they feel, since they like to torture people
9-11 TRUTHER! | 05.06.07 - 10:40 am | #

Now, now - that argument was used to allow them the freedom to torture. Always watch for the hidden wizards pulling the strings. We are being led to have such violent thoughts. Don't turn to the dark side Luke, just take away their toys (money, power, prestige) and stick them in a home, the Fletcher Memorial...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...h? v=_Dpyjvo3XWk


Sane, Why do you say "I kinda don't think it is appropriate for me to do that"? Anyone we can convince that 9-11 official story is a LIE, we need to TRY! Be it pastor or otherwise! Especially really since we are fighting pure evil, Satan worshipping bastards here! AA, I will send him some info if you like? Will CC you copies too if you want? Is this OK with you or not?


i watched the gitmmo torture special late nite last nite
this shit is got to stop
anyone who condones torture should have to go thru it for a month
see if they are terrorists
this shit is going to produce halucinations and false testimony because they are mind controlling the detainees
they are creating terrorists from shattering their minds
creating dissociative personality disorder
what a crock that we the people are allowing this to take place
we should be ashamed
only if a suspect is found in the act or proved guilty by evidence should we try to extract further info out of them
like the snipers found guilty in the weaver case
they should have been forced to give up all the info on all the executive decisions and directives they were given
or the storm troopers in the tank at waco
those mfr's should have had to undergo some teqniques to get more info on the butchers in charge


AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o, While I am NOT Sane, I can send the pastor some good info, if it's OK with you? How does ANY one think us in 9-11 truth movement is "making money" on 9-11? Pastor is BLIND TO TRUTH! Can I email him? Or what?


could you send him some good info to wake him up?
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 05.06.07 - 10:36 am | #

Hey dude, I kinda don't think it is appropriate for me to do that, but I recommend pointing him to George Washington Blog to get a perspective on reality v. delusion:

Psychiatrists and Psychologists: Government's 9/11 Story is Crazy
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/

Real Men Stand Up to Fascists
http://georgewashington.blogspot...o- fascists.html

Would the U.S. Terrorize Its Own People?
http://georgewashington.blogspot...own- people.html

Disrespectful to the Victims
http://georgewashington.blogspot...to- victims.html

Under the section 9/11 on the right, there are another 20 articles that speak directly to his concerns.

Hope that helps



AA, " tried and most of them executed by firing squad the punishment is not violence"
I would like to seem them suffer worse then this! I want TRUE JUSTICE!! 1. Have them LOSE ALL ill gotten money, period and money be put back into our U.S. Treasury, also part of it paid to victim's of 9-11, G.I's families, and innocent Iraqi's families too! 2. Then send PURE EVIL, TREASONOUS Bush and Cheney to Gitmo and torture them and rest of cohorts and see how they feel, since they like to torture people, alot of them innocent too! 3. For TRUE JUSTICE, let the families of 9-11 victim's get ahold of them, victim's of Iraq and Afghanistan wars too and families of G.I.'s NEEDLESSLY killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and also victim's families of Katrina ALL be allowed to torture them, BIG TIME! Then LET THE REST OF US U.S. citizens be allowed to torture them too after that! 3. Then and ONLY then put their SORRY, MF'ing, lying, mass murdering, war profiteering asses to death, by hanging as shooting is good fucking good for them! NOW THIS WOULD BE REAL TRUE JUSTICE!


AND DO SOMETHING TO EXPOSE THEM!
9-11 TRUTHER! | 05.06.07 - 10:18 am | #

Yeah good FBI guys, here are a few names for you to look up in the MATRIX system (actually you don't need to bother, they are the in the Bush-connected "untouchable" category):

-Larry Potts

-Rudy Dekkers

-Wally Hilliard

-Jackson Stevens

-Rahim Koutchesfahani

-Abdussattar Shaikh


my old pastor says that 9/11 truthers are in it for the money
he says that the real gun grabbers are the 9/11 truth people
he says 9/11 truth people are kooks
he says 9/11 truthers believe the earth is flat, that the moon landing was fake'd and that the official story is right
it was bin laden, because he confessed on video

pastorfrank@gmail.com

sane?
could you send him some good info to wake him up?


"FEMA is preparing to send aid"

Now is'nt that an oxymoron!


And WHAT'S with Alex having a link on his/this website for fucking war mongering, in bed with Bush, McCain? IT'S BULLSHIT! And I emailed him/them on it! They supposedly promote Ron Paul, YET had McCain's link on website? What gives? McCain SUCKS as does majority running for President! And I am upset with Ron Paul too over two issues, i.e one is him voting against people being able to join a union and 2. him being against federal help to victim's of Katrina! How can ANYONE be against helping victim's of Katrina with federal aid? While I like him alot on other important issues, like getting us off Federal Reserve, WHY OH WHY can't ANYONE candidate THINK AND BE FOR WHAT MAJORITY OF THE REST OF US ARE FOR? WHY NOT? That said, maybe some of you too need to email Alex and tell him to NOT put McCain or others on his website?


C'mon, this keeps smelling like shit!
sane
I TOTALLY agree, this keeps smelling like SHIT! BULLSHIT that is!


Soon after Tickle saw the man she thinks was Cho, an associate engineering professor handed the note to her, she said.
Why did the associate give note to a jaitor? And HOW in hell did Cho have chance to lock all 3 doors WITHOUT being stopped by SOMEONE? This whole affair smells of "Manchurian candidate"! And WHY won't FBI let parents of those two kids from Columbine talk? They should ANYWAY! It is being said that at least some of kids killed that day were shot by COPS! And if I were parents of any of those kids killed by Cho, I would sue cops or FBI for telling local cops to "stand down" and not apprehend Cho! Wake up sheeple! SOME in FBI are pure corrupt as hell and ARE in bed with these mass murdering, treasonous bastards in our OWN gov't, and SOME were involved in FIRST WTC bombing, OKC bombing and 9-11 TOO! And if any FBI agents are reading this and your GOOD ones, try to somehow figure out who the bad ones are, AND DO SOMETHING TO EXPOSE THEM!


9video google catherine austin fittz
her website is: www.solaris.com
she has the best peaceful one like sane is advocating
but the perps try to destroy her also


every moment i am peaceful right now is a
moment i tell the criminals i am loading another bullet into my clip every peaceful request i design and deliver is prefaced with "please
stop the madness or else" all the peacemaking is built on being a peacemaker begging the elite to stop their killing, their bloodshed, their murders, their assassinations, their taking of innocent life
the question is "do i love my neigbor as myself?"
well
my neigbors are being beaten, shot, stabbed, blown up, burned, mutilated and dehumanized
hhmmmm let me think
if i let it go on and on and on another second in my heart?
have i not condoned and aided the killing
the covetousness of the elite, the theft, the destroying Gods rest, the raising up of false idols like molech
child torture and sacrifice
oh shit
im now the bad guy for letting it happen even one more second
the founding fathers cite a ten year excelleration of brittish madness
we have been incrementalized by terror from these criminal banksters for almost 100 years
when is enough enough?
i ask you when is too much too much?
the entire criminal beast system should have been over thrown and trampled into oblivion when jfk was snuffed
the fed.res. act and the nat. sec. act should have been enough to shut down the entire elite crime wave in one day
ruby ridge, waco, and okc were more than enough to hunt the fuckers down years ago
now 911, afgnst, irq etc..., etc..., etc.............
and we still want to sweet talk these rat bastards
we still cant muster a ultimatum???????????
the reason why we carry guns is so we wont have to use them
it is a simple association of imagery
every blog, every email, every poll, every phone call
every letter
should contain a immediate notice of demand
to the perps of 911, the criminals in government, the satanic elite
money masters behind the scenes, the sickifant child rapists and all other wicked idiots in power
STOP NOW OR ELSE
STOP NOW OR WE COME 300,000,000 STRONG
STOP NOW AND FACE THE CHARGES
STOP NOW AND FACE THE MUSIC
it is this thought that is pure and peace is the intention
but the fact is these criminal elite need to be completely arrested, imprisoned, tried and most of them executed by firing squad
the punishment is not violence
it is justice
it is our way
our republic
our lives
our freedom
our liberty
i will not count my death violent
i will deem it expediant in a fight for my life
to live free or die
to "give me liberty or give me death"
i have but one life to GIVE for "my country"
for my childrens future
because these perps will not give in
they will not give up peacefully
they will not stop because we ask nice
they will not tell the truth
EVER
EVER
EVER
this isnt a fantasy
it is a fact


THIS HAS BEEN ON THE DANISH NATIONAL TXT-TV TODAY:

//Translation-explanation starts//
The Danish Security Intelligence Service, P.E.T.,(Politiets Efterretningstjeneste) confirmed the fact that an agent helped a persumed terrorcell in Vollsmose(a "famous" building complex in Denmark, habitated with many foreigners and refugees(mostly muslims)) by providing materials, which could be used in making bombs.(they were apprehended some months ago).

Sources inside the Police(the ordinary police?) confirms to Berlingske Tidende, that a civil agent, who is a key-witness in the case, has played a "unsually part by actively participated in the persumed plan of terror".(My guess is that the muslims backed out.)

The Counsel for the defence thinks that by order from the PET, the agent was pushing forward a terrorist act.

Nor the PET, the prosecutor or the Counsel for the defense want to make any comments.
//Translation-explanation over//


Hey guys chick this out. This is too funny. Here is a graph of CO2 soil samples over the last half billion years. See how the CO2 levels were many many time s higher than they are now, even up to 50 million years ago when dinosaurs were walking the earth. Mammals started around this time too I think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Ima...bon_Dioxide.png

Also I was shocked to find out that not only do the ice core samples show that CO2 levels follow temperature change in earths history, but the CO2 levels presently aren't even higher now than they have been in cycles from the last 400,000 years. AND, not only that, but the temperature on the earth today is not even higher than in normal cycles of earths history. There is global warming right now, but it's only an upswing in the cycle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Ima..._insolation.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ima...rature- plot.png

There are only 5 major ice core samples that I could find that are used to measure temperature change and CO2 (Vostok, EPICA, NGRIP, GRIP and Siple). All are in Greenland and Antartica. Only Siple shows an increase in CO2 lately, and it's the one the government jumped on to say that global warming is happening. Not only is this data suspect, http://www.warwickhughes.com/icecore/ (critique of the Siple data), but the levels the Siple data show are not even higher than CO2 levels 5000 years ago.
The only other data that suggests that CO2 levels are higher now than before industrial times, is air data measured in Hawaii, yet CO2 data from all around the world shows that levels of CO2 now aren't even higher than before the industrial revolution (see the Siple critque above).

So... we have no evidence that the earths temperature is higher than in a normal cycle, no evidence that CO2 is higher than in a normal cycle in the last 400000 years (and certainly is way less than millions of years ago when mammals developed on earth). The government cherry picked data from 1 out of five ice cores and 2 out of hundreds are air observatories, to make a case of global warming. The depth of this global warming fraud boggles the mind.


http://video.google.com/ videopla...119045662605410
Mohammed Atta and the Venice Flying Circus

Some stuff I am still verifying, but the stuff about the C130 that shipped out hundreds of flight school records including Atta's from the CIA Stevens Venice Airport so far seem true.

Also check out this cool site for finding the "political connections" of important people:
http://www.politicalfriendster.c...e=Jack- Abramoff


got kill the messenger, complete, was 4-5 attempts resuming that file lol, hadnt watched it yet but will probably convert to a VCD format that more dvd players will be able to play....
-is a bit of a tip to people, reencode to VCD !!


Sorry again, but I want to emphasize the following non-quoted quote from today's article. The specific part I am referencing is the AP journalist's interpretation of whatever Tickle said about the VT shootings and about her recovered memory of seeing Cho rush by her:
_________

a jangling noise coming from his pockets caught her attention
____________

Really??????

She just now remembered this jangling noise????

She just not remembered she saw he rushing by her??????

C'mon, this keeps smelling like shit!


of course, halliburton has moved its corporate headquarters offshore, hell, cheney probably granted corporate welfare for it to happen too. and with halliburton/kbr having a private corporate army and "fema camps" it amazes me they havent been run up a flagpole for unamerican activities .. aka high treason!!
Sees Things | 05.06.07 - 8:11 am | #

Did you see Kill the Messenger Yet?

Plame did not get outed for the yellow cake / Joe Wilson shit. She and Sibel Edmonds were honing in on Giza's (Turkish front company) business of purchasing nuke detonators from US and selling them to Iran with Rumsfeld, Hastert, and Cheney's approval. Cheney still has access to classified info, WTF.

Also did you see Atta and the venice flying circus? that guy in venice is hilarious!

Oh and tnks again for the links to ogg's


Sorry guys, but the new post, " Bomb Warning Found Before Tech Shooting," got my attention. The AP article dated 5/6/2007 says:

Minutes before Seung-Hui Cho's rampage inside Virginia Tech's Norris Hall, a note found on a second-floor stairwell door warned, "Bomb will go off if you open the door," a school employee said Saturday.

Virginia State Police confirmed a threatening note was found in the room where janitor Pamela Tickle says she left it after the shooting, but they have not linked it to Cho. Tickle, 26, said she was dusting the floors on the morning of April 16 when an Asian man wearing a maroon hat, a dark shirt and cargo pants hurried past her.

She assumed he was late to turn in a paper, but a jangling noise coming from his pockets caught her attention. Cho chained the three main entrances to Norris before killing 30 people and himself inside. He killed two other students earlier that morning in a dormitory across campus.

Soon after Tickle saw the man she thinks was Cho, an associate engineering professor handed the note to her, she said. The note had been penned in red ink on the back of a flier. The word "bomb" had been underlined, she said. Tickle said she decided to call her supervisor.

As she walked toward her supply closet to grab her cell phone, the sounds of gunfire erupted. Tickle and two students took cover in a second floor lounge and locked the door while the sounds of shots kept coming. "It was almost unreal," she said. "It was like, 'Golly, he's still shooting?'"


OK, so that is how it went down from this story of 26 year old janitor Pam Tickle on 5/6/2007. This supposedly closes some loose ends:

-Did any witness ID Cho?
-Did Cho chain the doors?
-Did he move at the speed of light?

Since Pam says in this article dated 5/6/2007 says:
an Asian man wearing a maroon hat, a dark shirt and cargo pants hurried past her. She assumed he was late to turn in a paper, but a jangling noise coming from his pockets caught her attention. Cho chained the three main entrances to Norris before killing 30 people and himself inside. He killed two other students earlier that morning in a dormitory across campus.
-But not really, none of this is in quotes, so we do not know what she said.

Then she finishes with this (don't know the extent of actual quotes v. writer's embelishments):
As she walked toward her supply closet to grab her cell phone, the sounds of gunfire erupted. Tickle and two students took cover in a second floor lounge and locked the door while the sounds of shots kept coming. "It was almost unreal," she said. "It was like, 'Golly, he's still shooting?'"

So why am I being so annal about pieces of evidence that support the official lone nut story? Well this is the article dated 4/16/2007 where our star #1 witness (who did not see any killings can corroborate much of the official story) was also quoted with some different info:

Witnesses Recall Memories of Norris Hall Shootings
http://www.planetblacksburg.com/ ..._hall_speak.php
April 16, 2007
Pam Tickle, who works as a housekeeper in Norris, was moving through another quiet, easy morning at her post in the second floor of Norris when a little after 9:30 a.m., she heard numerous gunshots coming from the hallway. “We weren’t quite sure what happened at first,” said Tickle.

“We didn’t hear anybody screaming, but we heard lots of shots.” Gene Cole, a building worker from the Pulaski County community of Belspring, had heard the shots and was on his way to look for Tickle, when he came around a corner on the second floor of Norris and saw a body on the floor.


STOP - Where does it say he was running at top speed and she heard him hear the chains????????????

Ask questions, demand answers!!!!!!

Watch the RFK MK Ultra witness interrogation program.

Then the article goes on:


Meanwhile, Tickle and several Virginia Tech students had rushed to the student lounge on the second floor, locked the door, and waited for police officers to evacuate them. Their wait would last almost two hours, an anxiety-filled two hours.

“We peeked out the door one time, but more shots were fired,” said Tickle. “We stayed in there not knowing what happened. When we heard police out in the hallway after 11, we let them in. They body searched us, and led us away to evacuate from the building.” Tickle did feel a sense of relief when a little after 10 a.m., she heard an announcer on the radio who said, “Shooter’s down!” Police led Tickle and students in the lounge to Randolph Hall, behind Norris, after the gunman was pronounced dead, and they stayed there until police cleared the area. “I thank God because he was watching me today,” said Tickle.

Tickle has worked for about three years as a housekeeper in Norris. She said she enjoyed the hustle and bustle of students and professors there. She particularly liked the quiet atmosphere and the neat look of the hallways.


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Well I never really thought about the witness statements, but that is a number one source for creating an "official story." I'll look for more.


Bush's approval rate falls to 28 percent

Reuters
Sunday May 06, 2007

President George W. Bush's approval rating has fallen to 28 percent in a Newsweek Poll released on Saturday, an all-time low for Bush in that survey.

dont forget NEWSWEEK there either.


Bush's approval rate falls to 28 percent

Reuters
Sunday May 06, 2007

President George W. Bush's approval rating has fallen to 28 percent in a Newsweek Poll released on Saturday, an all-time low for Bush in that survey.

-NOT ONCE does Rueters mention RON PAUL in this article, I see another target for mass spammings


trying to do business over there . . . and instead started to rebuild those relationships,” Cheney said during a 1998 business trip to Sydney, Australia, according to Australia’s Illawarra Mercury newspaper.
sane | 05.06.07 - 6:42 am | #

of course, halliburton has moved its corporate headquarters offshore, hell, cheney probably granted corporate welfare for it to happen too. and with halliburton/kbr having a private corporate army and "fema camps" it amazes me they havent been run up a flagpole for unamerican activities .. aka high treason!!


Polish my Guns
Polish my Guns

Do DA - Do DA

Polish my Guns
Polish my Guns

All fucking Day -

If you see an Evil Fucker -

Lock & Load!
Lock & Load!
Lock & Load!

If you see an Evil Fucker -

Lock & Load!

& Blow that Satanic Fucker Away!!!

Bang!* Bang!* Bang!* Bang! * Bang! * Bang!

Death to the NWO!


Can We Have a Peaceful Revolution?
http:// georgewashington.blogspot...revolution.html
In 1776, the founding fathers of America waged the Revolutionary War to gain independence from the British monarchy. Indeed, founding father Ben Franklin said something to the effect that we need a revolution every 200 years, because all governments become stale and corrupt after 200 years. The French then followed with their own revolutionary war.

Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jr., and Nelson Mandela proved that you can have a non-violent revolution, at least when the people have convinced the rulers that they have the power to shut down the government and economy, and that the outcome from refusing to step aside would be even worse. Is a non-violent revolution better than a violent one? Of course it is. Many lives may be spared, countless scars avoided, and untold emotional suffering prevented. In addition, some wise person once said that you shouldn't tear down something unless you can replace it with something better. And for those Americans who want to stay in this country, trashing the place in which we and our grandkids are going to be living for generations is not very smart. Cindy Sheehan has said that “nonviolent civil disobedience is the way we have to go” to end the war. 9/11 activist Jimmy Walter says "NON-Violence is the only way!"

Is Revolution Inevitable?
The government has angered the majority of Americans with its lies, brutality and indifference to human suffering at home or abroad. Yet the empire is hell-bent on carrying out its plans for global domination devised by the Project for a New American Century and others before Bush took office. And while impeachment and criminal indictments would be the normal avenue for ridding the country of leaders who do not follow the constitution or the rule of law, congress closed ranks years ago to protect the criminals, and is not likely to allow impeachment proceedings to go forward. However, the imperial alliance doesn't have the means necessary to crush dissent at this point. In fact, millions of brave Americans are raising their voices now more than ever, even in the face of increasing repression and censorship.

And when they drew up their imperial plans, they did not count on the power of the Internet to spread truth. Even if they shut down the web based upon some imaginary necessity, they cannot re-enslave minds once liberated. The stubborness of the imperial rulers and their refusal to change course is crashing into the rising awareness, anger, outrage and courage of the public, like two tectonic plates grinding together. Revolution is inevitable. The only question is whether it will be violent or non-violent. But is a Peaceful Revolution Possible? I don't know. On the one hand, the crazy warmongers are gearing up right now for full-scale wars against Syria and Iran, and covert operations have already begun in both countries. And Saudi Arabia and Venezuela are on the radar as future targets for invasion. Despite Bush's plummeting poll numbers, and the CIA leak, torture, and WMD disinformation scandals, the guys in charge of our country are going pedal-to-the-metal to launch us into a further series of imperial wars of aggression. Furthermore, the U.S. mainstream media refuses to cover the real stories, such as 9/11, which would take the wind out of the sails of the war ship. On the other hand, the time is ripe for change. The U.S. is running a huge deficit, is overextended militarily, and has lost credibility in the world.

The powers-that-be are clearly following the old adage that "the best defense is a strong offense". They are desperately trying to play a strong offense (starting new wars, cracking down on civil liberties, killing whistleblowers, and maybe planning new false flag operations) in order to play defense (avoiding impeachment, indictments, guilty verdicts for war crimes, and exposure of the unholy alliances they have formed with the ruling elites of other countries and with established criminal organizations). But a sizeable portion of the public is catching on to at least the basic dihonesty of the leaders, trust in the administration is plummeting -- even in wartime -- and ever-increasing numbers of people are reading websites that are exposing their real game. The public is finally waking up, and the momentum has shifted away from the bad guys.

So How is A Peaceful Revolution Carried Out?
Obviously, some wimpy, rose-colored-glasses strategy is not going to work against the ruthless criminals who run our country, or their media lapdogs. Any strategy must be realistic, taking away the sources of power that fund the criminal enterprises and illegal wars. Certainly, the actions of Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr., might be instructive. Their sit-ins and other non-violent acts of civil disobedience impaired the ability of the repressive regimes to function, and drew outrage from around the world. Boycotting all corporations -- whether defense, media, or otherwise -- that support the barbarians would also be helpful. And while I have not researched the legality of non-payment of taxes, IF non-payment is in fact legal, that might also be a good way to cut off funding of further imperial mischief. But, unfortunately, I don't have many of the answers. There are people with far more wisdom, creativity and experience than me who would have a better idea of how to win a peaceful revolution. I urge them to step up to the plate.

And I urge you to use every ounce of wisdom, creativity and strength you have, and all of your passion to avoid a bloody mess for you and your family, to create and implement a successful non-violent revolution.


Extra, extra! Read all about it!

"Many Troops Say Torture OK"

http://www.military.com/ NewsCont...,134624,00.html

I'm sure there are all KINDS of things troop say. Now the question is, are the words of brainwashed lemmings of any validity?


NO? Oh we should'nt advocate violence right? I mean these people only developed AIDS, and gave it to people.....Unknowingly.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.06.07 - 6:11 am | #

We should advocate powerful, determined, passionate action everywhere. That action should always adhere to total non-violence. That is my belief and I do not see anything so far that will change it.

I truly felt that there was another way up until very recently. The more I have seen, the more I realize that collective, passionate non-violent action during this time of moral uncertainty is the most powerful weapon.


Doesn't matter who was attacking the Liberty. It could of been the eygptians. Who cares? The idea that a President would order our own military to stand down in defence of our own countrymen is TREASON!
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.06.07 - 6:24 am | #

I think anyone reading my posts for more than 24 hours has an idea of my general views on this. That said, the USS Liberty is an important event in US/Israel relations and all international relations. I will never shy away from digging to find truth where a cover up exists and let the chips fall where they may. I have looked into this and do not know all the answers (like any gov coverup), But, there are some obvious conclusions that are often overlooked in favor of getting some evidence to support the "JZ-issue."

1. This was an obvious false flag attack from the highest levels of the US/Israeli government. Many soldiers disobeyed orders (especially Israeli pilots). But it should be obvious to anyone that this was a mostly US plot and not a unilateral Israeli plot. Israel would gain nothing by creating itself as an overwhelming power in the middle east in geographic area (they already were in terms of arms). The goal was a pretext for a US invasion into Middle East as they have been trying to do ever since then.

2. Since then, Israel has worked diligently to be more forward thinki8ng in their covert ops (obviously they still have issues, but they have never bombed a US ship since). There are three operation I am familiar with:
a. bombing nuke sites in Iraq-I do not think this was misrepresented in any way whatsoever and there is much evidence that US not only supported this, but had more input than initially thought.
b. assassination of "Big Gun" scientist- BFD
c. the PNAC new pearl harbor operation (911) was first brought to Israel to do fully in the 1990's by the same guys. They rejected it outright. I will also agree that some of their possibly loose cannon, yet valuable, agents had some involvement like CIA/SAS/others. It seems that these agents did not act with total cooperation of the gov (unlike here), because Israeli intelligence gave multiple warnings to US intelligence.

So, the USS Liberty is an important piece of false flag history because it again proves the conspiracy: few people at the top using patriots as cannon fodder for their sinister plans. Anything more than that might have an agenda behind it.

I am open to criticism (not just because I write like shit) as I am committed to get to the truth of these things and also am interested in how the illuminati keeps dividing billions of people through racial, cultural, religious separations.

If we were able to really hear Jesus, Gandhi, MLK-the only war going on is the billions with nothing v. elites with everything.

That war has nothing to do with stereotyping and can be fought in any country, any town, any street, and any house.


>>>>>>>>>>>Halliburton Charged with Selling Nuclear Technologies to Iran
http://www.lookingglassnews.org/...hp? storyid=7146
According to journalist Jason Leopold, sources at former Cheney company Halliburton allege that, as recently as January of 2005, Halliburton sold key components for a nuclear reactor to an Iranian oil development company. Leopold says his Halliburton sources have intimate knowledge of the business dealings of both Halliburton and Oriental Oil Kish, one of Iran’s largest private oil companies.


Additionally, throughout 2004 and 2005, Halliburton worked closely with Cyrus Nasseri, the vice chairman of the board of directors of Iran-based Oriental Oil Kish, to develop oil projects in Iran. Nasseri is also a key member of Iran’s nuclear development team. Nasseri was interrogated by Iranian authorities in late July 2005 for allegedly providing Halliburton with Iran’s nuclear secrets. Iranian government officials charged Nasseri with accepting as much as $1 million in bribes from Halliburton for this information.

Oriental Oil Kish dealings with Halliburton first became public knowledge in January 2005 when the company announced that it had subcontracted parts of the South Pars gas-drilling project to Halliburton Products and Services, a subsidiary of Dallas-based Halliburton that is registered to the Cayman Islands. Following the announcement, Halliburton claimed that the South Pars gas field project in Tehran would be its last project in Iran. According to a BBC report, Halliburton, which took thirty to forty million dollars from its Iranian operations in 2003, “was winding down its work due to a poor business environment.”

However, Halliburton has a long history of doing business in Iran, starting as early as 1995, while Vice President Cheney was chief executive of the company. Leopold quotes a February 2001 report published in the Wall Street Journal, “Halliburton Products and Services Ltd., works behind an unmarked door on the ninth floor of a new north Tehran tower block. A brochure declares that the company was registered in 1975 in the Cayman Islands, is based in the Persian Gulf sheikdom of Dubai and is “non-American.” But like the sign over the receptionist’s head, the brochure bears the company’s name and red emblem, and offers services from Halliburton units around the world.” Moreover mail sent to the company’s offices in Tehran and the Cayman Islands is forwarded directly to its Dallas headquarters.

In an attempt to curtail Halliburton and other U.S. companies from engaging in business dealings with rogue nations such as Libya, Iran, and Syria, an amendment was approved in the Senate on July 26, 2005. The amendment, sponsored by Senator Susan Collins R-Maine, would penalize companies that continue to skirt U.S. law by setting up offshore subsidiaries as a way to legally conduct and avoid U.S. sanctions under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA).
A letter, drafted by trade groups representing corporate executives, vehemently objected to the amendment, saying it would lead to further hatred and perhaps incite terrorist attacks on the U.S. and “greatly strain relations with the United States primary trading partners.” The letter warned that, “Foreign governments view U.S. efforts to dictate their foreign and commercial policy as violations of sovereignty often leading them to adopt retaliatory measures more at odds with U.S. goals.”
Collins supports the legislation, stating, “It prevents U.S. corporations from creating a shell company somewhere else in order to do business with rogue, terror-sponsoring nations such as Syria and Iran. The bottom line is that if a U.S. company is evading sanctions to do business with one of these countries, they are helping to prop up countries that support terrorism—most often aimed against America.

UPDATE BY JASON LEOPOLD
During a trip to the Middle East in March 1996, Vice President Dick Cheney told a group of mostly U.S. businessmen that Congress should ease sanctions in Iran and Libya to foster better relationships, a statement that, in hindsight, is completely hypocritical considering the Bush administration’s foreign policy.
“Let me make a generalized statement about a trend I see in the U.S. Congress that I find disturbing, that applies not only with respect to the Iranian situation but a number of others as well,” Cheney said. “I think we Americans sometimes make mistakes . . . There seems to be an assumption that somehow we know what’s best for everybody else and that we are going to use our economic clout to get everybody else to live the way we would like.” Cheney was the chief executive of Halliburton Corporation at the time he uttered those words. It was Cheney who directed Halliburton toward aggressive business dealings with Iran—in violation of U.S. law—in the mid-1990s, which continued through 2005 and is the reason Iran has the capability to enrich weapons-grade uranium. It was Halliburton’s secret sale of centrifuges to Iran that helped get the uranium enrichment program off the ground, according to a three-year investigation that includes interviews conducted with more than a dozen current and former Halliburton employees.
If the U.S. ends up engaged in a war with Iran in the future, Cheney and Halliburton will bear the brunt of the blame.
But this shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone who has been following Halliburton’s business activities over the past decade. The company has a long, documented history of violating U.S. sanctions and conducting business with so-called rogue nations.

No, what’s disturbing about these facts is how little attention it has received from the mainstream media. But the public record speaks for itself, as do the thousands of pages of documents obtained by various federal agencies that show how Halliburton’s business dealings in Iran helped fund terrorist activities there—including the country’s nuclear enrichment program. When I asked Wendy Hall, a spokeswoman for Halliburton, a couple of years ago if Halliburton would stop doing business with Iran because of concerns that the company helped fund terrorism she said, “No.” “We believe that decisions as to the nature of such governments and their actions are better made by governmental authorities and international entities such as the United Nations as opposed to individual persons or companies,” Hall said. “Putting politics aside, we and our affiliates operate in countries to the extent it is legally permissible, where our customers are active as they expect us to provide oilfield services support to their international operations. “We do not always agree with policies or actions of governments in every place that we do business and make no excuses for their behaviors. Due to the long-term nature of our business and the inevitability of political and social change, it is neither prudent nor appropriate for our company to establish our own country-by-country foreign policy.”

Halliburton first started doing business in Iran as early as 1995, while Vice President Cheney was chief executive of the company and in possible violation of U.S. sanctions.

An executive order signed by former President Bill Clinton in March 1995 prohibits “new investments (in Iran) by U.S. persons, including commitment of funds or other assets.” It also bars U.S. companies from performing services “that would benefit the Iranian oil industry” and provide Iran with the financial means to engage in terrorist activity.
When Bush and Cheney came into office in 2001, their administration decided it would not punish foreign oil and gas companies that invest in those countries. The sanctions imposed on countries like Iran and Libya before Bush became president were blasted by Cheney, who gave frequent speeches on the need for U.S. companies to compete with their foreign competitors, despite claims that those countries may have ties to terrorism.

“I think we’d be better off if we, in fact, backed off those sanctions (on Iran), didn’t try to impose secondary boycotts on companies . . . trying to do business over there . . . and instead started to rebuild those relationships,” Cheney said during a 1998 business trip to Sydney, Australia, according to Australia’s Illawarra Mercury newspaper.


It's called liv'in and learn'in bud! Don't feel so bad. He fooled me as well with his rants.
You cannot trust the MSM types. Maybe as far as you can spit on them...Maybe? Nah!
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.06.07 - 6:00 am | #

For the record, I am aligned on this view and believe he tramples over the grave of Ed Murrow by using his signoff. Murrow would never pick on a side without putting it in the scope of the bigger picture: less people with more power. Keith never talks about this and his eloquent speeches (although in the moment enjoyable) leave out critical patriotic platforms. After learning more about the walls that build the matrix, he fits in nicely. Just like Michael Moore, Bill Maher, Anderson Cooper (blech), etc. People that do not fit are Rosie, Mos Def, Dave Chapelle, Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, Charlie Sheen...


Jimmyjoebob & spot | 05.05.07 - 10:09 pm | #
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Doesn't matter who was attacking the Liberty. It could of been the eygptians. Who cares? The idea that a President would order our own military to stand down in defence of our own countrymen is TREASON!


Jimmyjoebob & spot | 05.05.07 - 10:09 pm | #
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LBJ did give the stand down order for the recue Jets going to the Libertys aid and screamed I want that ship going to the bottom. Now didn't He? SO? Actually Alex is correct in what he says. Because it was LBJ that did not allow Americans to defend themselves.


NO? Oh we should'nt advocate violence right? I mean these people only developed AIDS, and gave it to people.....Unknowingly.


Hey? And them Free masons are easy to find. They all have them Free mason symbols on their Cars and in their rear windows! LOL


I know? Call 911 ! Bwahahahahahaha!


count me in
hunt down criminals and do to them what they do to people in gitmo
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 05.06.07 - 6:01 am | #

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Hah! Tell me something? What's a 5-8 man security team going to do to a crowd of 250 scream'in pissed off Americans waving semi-auto firearms in their face all of a sudden?
: O )


count me in
hunt down criminals and do to them what they do to people in gitmo


Just goes to show that Olbermann and all his rants had nothing to do with protecting the people by getting Bush out of office. He was doing it for himself. I kind of realized when I saw the clips of the post-commentary that he was ignoring Mr. Paul. What an ass.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...050507MSNBC.htm
TimM | 05.06.07 - 5:57 am | #

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It's called liv'in and learn'in bud! Don't feel so bad. He fooled me as well with his rants.
You cannot trust the MSM types. Maybe as far as you can spit on them...Maybe? Nah!


Just goes to show that Olbermann and all his rants had nothing to do with protecting the people by getting Bush out of office. He was doing it for himself. I kind of realized when I saw the clips of the post-commentary that he was ignoring Mr. Paul. What an ass.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...050507MSNBC.htm


I say We good Amnericans should form Hunting parties, to go find Free Masons. And go hunt them down and kill all them mother Fkr's!


America? Just face it. There is some people out there that are just to fuck'in stupid to wake up. Okay? So FUCK'EM!


Just keep your Kool-Aid away from my family.
Daaaaa....Alex is ahhhh, | 05.05.07 - 8:45 pm | #

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It wasn't a Missile, it was a drone aircraft that hit the pentagon
And TWA flight 800 was shot down by a MISSILE
right out of the Bay. Brigadier General Ben Partin even interviewed the Vietnam Veteran helicopter pilot that seen the missile that shot down TWA flight 800 that day! 250 people cannot be wrong.
Idiot! Samething on 9/11. Lots of people are saying 1 thing while the government spins it the way they want you to see it in Your head. Not the way it really happened. But you just go right ahead at your own peril okay dumb fucker?


well at least you got it right
if yur gunna sign in under my name thats better mfr
now please
dont use my AAA please


for the record
the plane was witnessed swooping in left of the gas station
the official report has it swooping in right of the gas station
the light poles were staged to the right of the gas station
all of the eye witnesses (including cops)
explicitely said that the plane that swooped down swooped down
to the left of the gas station
the other eye witness accounts say over and over again that they know for sure there was
a large explosion
but they cannot verify that the airplane actually
hit the building
more accounts witness a plane appearing out of the ball of fire and rising over the pentagon after the fire ball and smoke
there are so many different types of missile delivery systems and
so many different style missiles
the debunkers can choke on my keilbassa if they want
to argue the legitimacy of the 9/11 official report because the light poles got knocked down???????????
what a crock arguement
the entire area was on fu@#$%^'in lock down
they truck in some props
place some broken cars
take their positions
ready the camera crews
enter the bus loads of perps
blow up a generator
cue the bomber
bingo
yahtzee
allahkazaaaam
confiscate all the videos
intimidate the witnesses
fabricate the official story
controll the media coverage

done


Bush Did It!


who the fu^%$%$# is signing in under my name??
stupid mfr
come to my house and ill pump you full of lead u limp di^%%^#
if yur gunna sign in under my name you better get my sh^%$^# straight
cuz i dont talk sh%^$^# unless im saying im talking sh$#%$#
so keep the fu@#$%^& off my sign in
or ill kick yur fu@#$%^'n as@#$%^&


On the other hand, when a cruise missile grazes a few lamp posts, it is a single skin-hardened engine system travelling with such velocity that it would be relatively undisturbed, and make it's target faithfully nonetheless.
Phil Prescott | Homepage | 05.06.07 - 1:33 am | #

Dude, the fucking poles were pulled out of the ground. I don't think they had a scratch on them, except for the car that they pulled the one on.
Let them play the what about the light post game, it is so ridiculous that it has resorted to that as a primary argument. Pop Mechanics used to be so on the offense, now they are picking at straws. Every time I see that magazine all I think is, "what lies did they publish today."


Please educate me if this man is lying about who owns the oild companies and how much profit they make. Something smells fishy here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h? v=l1chadddSWc

The guy who put the video up seems to think that the government and private enterprise are two different things. I don't see that, especially not with the oild companies in Iraq, Bush's interests etc.

Thank you very much.


BTW when a Boeng 767 flying (either landing or taking off) at just merely tree-top altitude, either hits or grazes a lamp post, it loses parts. Pieces of fuselage would have been shattered and dropped, and cars and trucks on the road would have been bowled over and displaced vast distances by the slipstreams of it's twin turbojet engines, and something of the plane would surely have been dropped with the felled light standards.

On the other hand, when a cruise missile grazes a few lamp posts, it is a single skin-hardened engine system travelling with such velocity that it would be relatively undisturbed, and make it's target faithfully nonetheless.


Alex, Paul, Steve,
What's the story with the World Vision Canada adverts on prisonplanet? Are they a CIA front or what? A clarification would be appreciated.


One of the most interesting ironies in the self inflicted Al Ciada 9/11 Attack Upon America is that for the VERY FIRST TIME, THE "TERRORIST ANTHEM" - The Star Spangled Banner -

Was allowed to be played at the Bucky-pile (Buckingham stolen goods warehouse) by The Great Whore herself, as she shed a phony tear, no doubt mostly for all the dust that would have to be cleaned out of her vast Manhatten tenement holdings.


And that's a "SLAM DUNK"!!!!!!.


Why did the GOP close down the Yahoo chat boards after they lost the elections last November?????
Bush the Idot | Homepage | 05.05.07 - 10:05 pm
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Can't imagine. But they are taking their time about getting a new and improved board going. One that is more politically correct, naturally.
I wonder how many people here used to post there?
I used to laugh so much at the exchanges. funny stuff. And also too often a little coarse.
I miss it


So, what is your answer about the (1) missile hitting 6 targets? Fools !
So....1 missile hit (5) light posts then the Pentagon. Hmmmmmm
Daaaaa....Alex is ahhhh, | 05.05.07 - 8:45 pm |

Lightposts? That's what it has gotten down to??? I can picture the desperate scene at debunker central...Let's look at the history of the Debunker movement for a minute:
2001-2002 - If you ask for an investigation into the crime of the millennium, you are a traitor.
2002-2004 - Give us time to do our report, and don't worry that we fired Max Cleland for asking too many questions. We promise it won't be whitewash, we care about the victims.
2004-2006 - Ok, so what if it was whitewash? we are in 2 wars and almost making a perfect losing trifecta with an imminent invasion on Iran. Just back the fuck off, we own the congress and the supreme court with anthrax, poison cookies, and dead interns. We also took out Wellstone and Thompson, don't you know we mean business?
2006 - 2007 - Those frickin new dems, not like the old ones with there pockets and their zippers open, shit. We will just deny and say we do not remember anything until we are blue in the face. We will also blame everything on Clinton, yeah that's the ticket.
May, 2007 - Bush approval is 28%, Cheney is 8%, Loose Change Final Cut is about to be released, Rosie tells the truth on daytime TV...things get desperate so the main debunkers have a conference call also taped by the NSA.

Transcript of the call:
Debunker #1:Uh let's make some last desperation moves. Where is the weakness to the truth movement? Buildings did not blow up?
Debunker #2:Nah, they got damn physists and shit.

Debunker #1:I know what pisses them off, bring them back to the moment of shock and awe, talk about the planes, like "Planes really hit the buildings didn't they?"
Debunker #2:Nah, these frickin truthers know that a 10 second explosion of a 110 story building into its own footprint with lava and volcanic dust don't happen from no darn planes. These guys don't cave to the shock of the moment anymore it really pisses me off.

Debunker #1:The jews and zionism and shit, that worked in Russia and Germany when people found out how much illuminati were screwing them. Let's throw the jews to the wolves abgain then we can make more money off the ensuing violence.
Debunker #2:Nah lot of fricking jews are in the truth movement, so are muslims and christians. And Cheney stopped going to temple with the Rumsfeld, Rove, Bush, Blair, OBL, Rice, Hastert, Lott, the Queen, Rothchild and Rockefeller.

Debunker #1:What about the stuff that makes absolutely no difference whatsoever?
Debunker #2:Like what?
Debunker #1:The light poles.
Debunker #2:Yeah the light poles, let's go with that one. You go into PP and say some crap about Alex and then drop the lightpole whisper. That will teach em good.


" Look how well off I am here ! " he told a big turtle from the Eastern Ocean. " I can hop along the coping of the well when I go out, and rest by a crevice in the bricks on my return. I can wallow to my heart's content with only my head above water, or stroll ankle deep through soft mud. No crabs or tadpoles can compare with me. I am master of the water and lord of this shallow well, What more can a fellow ask ? Why don't you come here more often to have a good time ? "

The Sirens of Titan raised the spectre of corruption on military basesstanding in the evening sun, watching the tide rollin in,while there are many noises,you must git there and stay there~!

leave out the rothschilds in these schemes.I'm watching the Republican debate.Pushin' that National ID card!The 1993 crash of a Marine Corps Helicopter assigned to the White House, could have been an attempt.My suggestion to anyone that wants to obtain another US Military story comes to mind.and with the referring to Rosie O'Donnell as My queen is, what are they going to actually debate about?I am not sure,but, I'm sorry that you feel this way. All I can say is that not everything is a conspiracy - just the one's people are focusing on here.

I can't f*cking believe the except I have pasted below. If these self-proclaimed "Jews" expect to have ANY weight whatsoever behind their baseless attacks on free speech (and in particular on any type of Nazi comparison),

then the FIRST person they should go after is BILL O'REILLY (and then ALISON MALKIN). Saun Hannitty,rushites one and all~~~~so now,yea sure maybe...we don't know what happened.
his actions are impeachabel for just lying about wmds.
but... my point is when alex says "proof that bush is lying #1, and proof that bush is lying #2 #3 etc.." and all the proofs contradict one another then they're not proof at all. however, it truly is bizzare.
maybe he did only find out when he went into the building. does it really make a difference?
it's clear like you said, that he did find out about something on camera, and he should have left then.... but he looks in that scene either guilty or scared. he could be evil or just stupid. it is really hard to tell.

Whats a good time for a 110 story skysraper to fall?I really would like to know. All you do is ask silly rhetorical questions. This is a real one.
what time is it,really???

Well no wonder he has a problem with weasels, Guiliani is a weasel.

Speaking of weasels, is Alex Jones still lying about the U.S.S. liberty, shifting the blame away from Israel, on to Johnson? (WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS??) THE LIBERTY WAS ATTACKED!! BY THE ISRE-LIES!!!)

Hollywood Jones, 90% truth, 10% disinfo and misdirection. But I'm already digressing. But I'm already digressing, but I'm already digressing.
ATTACKING ME BY NAME, ME THINKS THOU DUST PROTEST TOO MUCH


Why did the GOP close down the Yahoo chat boards after they lost the elections last November?????


standing in the evening sun, watching the tide rollin in,while there are many noises,you must git there and stay there~!

leave out the rothschilds in these schemes.I'm watching the Republican debate.Pushin' that National ID card!The 1993 crash of a Marine Corps Helicopter assigned to the White House, could have been an attempt.My suggestion to anyone that wants to obtain another US Military story comes to mind.and with the passing referring to O'Donnell as My queen is, what are they going to actually debate about?

I'm sorry that you feel this way, all I can say is that not everything is a conspiracy - just the one's people are focusing on here.

I can't f*cking believe the except I have pasted below. If these self-proclaimed "Jews" expect to have ANY weight whatsoever behind their baseless attacks on free speech (and in particular on any type of Nazi comparison), then the FIRST person they should go after is BILL O'REILLY (and then ALISON MALKIN). Saun Hannitty,rushites one and all~~~~

so now,


yea sure maybe...
we don't know what happened.
his actions are impeachabel for just lying about wmds.
but... my point is when alex says "proof that bush is lying #1, and proof that bush is lying #2 #3 etc.." and all the proofs contradict one another then they're not proof at all. however, it truly is bizzare.
maybe he did only find out when he went into the building. does it really make a difference?
it's clear like you said, that he did find out about something on camera, and he should have left then.... but he looks in that scene either guilty or scared. he could be evil or just stupid. it is really hard to tell.

Whats a good time for a 110 story skysraper to fall?I really would like to know. All you do is ask silly rhetorical questions. This is a real one.
what time is it,really???

Well no wonder he has a problem with weasels, Guiliani is a weasel.

Speaking of weasels, is Alex Jones still lying about the U.S.S. liberty, shifting the blame away from Israel, on to Johnson? (WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS??) THE LIBERTY WAS ATTACKED!! BY THE ISRE-LIES!!!)

Hollywood Jones, 90% truth, 10% disinfo and misdirection. But I'm already digressing. But I'm already digressing, but I'm already digressing.


leave out the rothschilds in these schemes.I'm watching the Republican debate.Pushin' that National ID card!The 1993 crash of a Marine Corps Helicopter assigned to the White House, could have been an attempt.My suggestion to anyone that wants to obtain another US Military story comes to mind.and with the passing referring to O'Donnell as My queen is, what are they going to actually debate about?

I'm sorry that you feel this way, all I can say is that not everything is a conspiracy - just the one's people are focusing on here.

I can't f*cking believe the except I have pasted below. If these self-proclaimed "Jews" expect to have ANY weight whatsoever behind their baseless attacks on free speech (and in particular on any type of Nazi comparison), then the FIRST person they should go after is BILL O'REILLY (and then ALISON MALKIN). Saun Hannitty,rushites one and all~~~~

so now,


yea sure maybe...
we don't know what happened.
his actions are impeachabel for just lying about wmds.
but... my point is when alex says "proof that bush is lying #1, and proof that bush is lying #2 #3 etc.." and all the proofs contradict one another then they're not proof at all. however, it truly is bizzare.
maybe he did only find out when he went into the building. does it really make a difference?
it's clear like you said, that he did find out about something on camera, and he should have left then.... but he looks in that scene either guilty or scared. he could be evil or just stupid. it is really hard to tell.

Whats a good time for a 110 story skysraper to fall?I really would like to know. All you do is ask silly rhetorical questions. This is a real one.
what time is it,really???


later, gotta get busy building more IED's
the news showed me how to make crack but it just didnt interest me.


THAT MEANS, MY FELLOW AMERICANS, VOTE ALL THE TRAITORS OUT!
Jimmyjoebob | 05.05.07 - 9:41 pm |

personally I think they oughtta be hauled out in chains, waterboarded and have their testes mangled with pliers for a confession, being they legalized torture.. no trial, no contact with anyone outside. every one of them giving the ok to so much unconstitutional, will wish they NEVER approved this crap if subjected to it. seize all thier paperwork so they cant make it dissappear like building 7, and dig into all of what should be public record.. and start meting out the executions for treason.


think I'll get my nipples peirced so I'm ready for the NWO chains, it'll cost me money now but I'm sure they'll reward me for it later in the fema camp
THAT MEANS, MY FELLOW AMERICANS, VOTE ALL THE TRAITORS OUT!


Washington DC , is not a state, or a part of america, it is an independant city/state with its own constitution, as is london and vatican city, not accountable to the laws of the land they are within. ponder the implications of this, and the name trilateral commission.


D-O-R-K
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT SHOULD REMAIN IN WASHINGTON AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION ARE THE 2 PEOPLE THAT VOTED AGAINST THIS WAR, THIS "PATRIOT ACT", AND THESE TWO ILLEGAL INVASIONS!!
THAT MEANS, MY FELLOW AMERICANS, VOTE ALL THE TRAITORS OUT!


about controlled by, and related to, the queen of england, the black nobility:
house of orange, netherlands
house of hanover, germany
house of hapsburg, austria
house of lichtenstein, lichtenstein
house of geolph, britain

these houses founded the committee of 300, aka illuminati, who founded:
the round table group
the UN
bilderberg
the CFR
club of rome
RIIA
trilateral commission

cannot leave out the rothschilds in these schemes or that ford, chrysler, IBM and prescott bush had financial interests in nazi germany, jp morgan, chase, rockefeller, among others.
rothschilds playbook of controlling media (disinfo)and funding both sides of a war to know the outcome and gain more wealth and power for himself, is probably the most signifigant example of how they ALL operate. after WW2 the pope scooped up on a LOT of wealth once held by jewish people, and rothschild, is the popes banker.
this is only the beginnings of a housecleaning list.
wealth ALL stolen from people by deviate means by evil people who will never be happy unless they own every blade of grass and the air we breath. inbred genocidal psycopaths who hide their names behind corporate entities who continue their NWO agenda.


Oh yes, the wings on these older military jets are armored so they wouldn't rip off when hitting a lamp post


Just keep your Kool-Aid away from my family.
Daaaaa....Alex is ahhhh, | 05.05.07 - 8:45 pm |

Moron, you need to see the vid Suspicious Clouds......contrails disapear in less than 2 minutes.
Yes a small jet, maybe globalhawk? Wheel in Loose Change matches, and these can also launch a misile.....the small jet rotor matches a small jet, what was it? like an A-10, older version, on loose change.........get informed, do your own research.


trouble is, it isnt just in the US , its global, and if everyone KNEW the big names behind it, it'd be stopped by force really fast by people everywhere all at once.


So, what is your answer about the (1) missile hitting 6 targets? Fools !

So....1 missile hit (5) light posts then the Pentagon. Hmmmmmm

And.....condensation trails from airplanes are.....chemtrails (chemical trails). Hmmmm

Nice work Alex, you, in my opinion, are a great con-man.

Just keep your Kool-Aid away from my family.
Daaaaa....Alex is ahhhh, | 05.05.07 - 8:45 pm |

Of course if the missle was a small jet then it could happen.


got that right chris, wish GOD would pop into washington DC and judge these jerks


They are missiles which have mini missiles encased in the warhead compartment. Of course again this may and probably does not apply to the post stateing one missile hit a lamp post and other such stuff


Do not know if this applies in the case of one missle hitting 6 targets post,,, but,,, the US and other countries do have missles which can hit multible targets.


-Siperman 3 has got more attention that the war in Iraq.
It seems to me that the current regime is at the turning point for the NWO. Given the fact they have made this obvious to concerned and involved Americans, the completion of their goal is within this decade.
Why am I saying this, 2008 is too late. If they did not have the media in their pocket, 911 would have been a issue long ago. As would have their deceptions of WMD's in Iraq and of course their invasion of a soveriegn nation.To mention only a few .
It has become clear to me, unfortunetly, the goverment, both the dems and reps. are on the same track. Plus the fact Bush is Full- commander in cheif in time of war.
It is an insult coupled with a tragedy, these items alone deserve impeachment. It is clear this will not happen.
The Democrats, make noise,shuffle papers, and get air time, but the final results are an traitorist insult to our constitution, the very base of our nation.
For these reasons, I seek a faith that before the year is out a break is made within the halls of government. Within the military, and of course the citizens.
Human beings worldwide are watching & analizing our country and Gov., just to mention 600,000 civilians have been killed since our invasion. Though this fact goes but unheard and unwritten by our news media. That is folks, there is much to say, much to feel, with chagrin and sadness, i mention this with a sence of awe as to what this gang of bloodsuckers has gotten away with. Its very difficult for me to beleive it has gone this far, I know Vietnam was a lesson, but the people have seem to have put it asside be it ignorence or lethargy,or brainwashed, then to the hieriarchy Vietnam was fortunes and pówer, a staging ground. As too was the assassinations of the Kennedys.Its 2008 or we are too late, these funguses,parasites on humanity, this criminal regime and counterparts are not playing around, they are determined to complete their goal.
May we stay united, with faith, and determination, may America and our constitution -Bill of Rights prevail over these bags of human waste.


Do we really have a working constitution study and decide. A couple sites to ponder, listed below.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/1933.htm
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/war_powers.htm


learn spanish and buy some sudden tan so police will never bother me


think I'll get my nipples peirced so I'm ready for the NWO chains, it'll cost me money now but I'm sure they'll reward me for it later in the fema camp


Hey, this guy has a great point.
Alex is a phony !


So, what is your answer about the (1) missile hitting 6 targets? Fools !

So....1 missile hit (5) light posts then the Pentagon. Hmmmmmm

And.....condensation trails from airplanes are.....chemtrails (chemical trails). Hmmmm

Nice work Alex, you, in my opinion, are a great con-man.

Just keep your Kool-Aid away from my family.


500 criminals in government positions
10,000 criminals in law enforcement
100,000 criminals in secret service
200,000 criminals in military

one guy telling the truth

priceless

300,000,000 people who know the truth
stop work
stop the presses
stop the buying and selling
stop the criminals
stop the tv
stop the lies
stop the drugs
stop the war
stop the fed. res.
stop the irs
stop the secret societies
stop the committe of 300
stop the MKULTRA
stop the RFID
stop the L.U.C.I.D. mark of the beast
stop the tyrants
stop the fasciest takeover

TAKE AMERICA BACK TODAY
DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC

DEATH TO THE NWO


more on than off fer sher.. lol

and koolaid .. you must love the blood flavored kind that the bush's and their auntie the queen of england love so much .. oh you didnt know theyre related inbred and insane ?!


hey look everyone
its the koolaid guy again
one missile
light posts
hey kool aid dude
do you even know what google is?
personally
i like the rasberry kool aide my grandma mixed
with orange juice
have a nice day


what kind of a moron do you have to be to still be a commission report believer?
a moron that doesnt read
a moron that cant comprehend what they read
a moron that only comprehends south park?
a moron that does not recognize a lie
a moron that cant tell what the truth looks like
a moron that wants to believe lies
a moron that hates the truth
a moron that gains from the current criminal administration
a moron that likes murder and death
a moron that likes to send our children to die for criminals
a moron that loves corruption, deciet and drug money
a moron that craves killing and destroying innocent life

just a thought


So....1 missile hit (5) light posts then the Pentagon. Hmmmmmm

And.....condensation trails from airplanes are.....chemtrails (chemical trails). Hmmmm

Nice work Alex, you, in my opinion, are a great con-man.

Just keep your Kool-Aid away from my family.

Peace


Until the major Democrat presidential candidates refute these Truther clowns, they’ll find themselves in photos like this one or videos like the one in which John Kerry acts like he’s never heard the bark of a raving moonbat before. These vignettes make their whole party look stupid. The problem is, as soon as the Democrat presidential candidates do refute the Truthers, they’ll see some of their most motivated support start melting away to the likes of Dennis Kucinich.


It's sick, because we all know Bush doesn't give a damn about the unborn fetus... he just doesn't want to loose the support of his ever dwindling number of Christian followers.
Anonymous | 05.05.07 - 7:34 pm | #

Look at this and my homepage:
http://www.bushisantichrist.com/


add to favs or something lol
Sees Things | 05.05.07 - 7:51 pm | #

Got it on the wall now, tnks


SANE SANE SANE SANE SANE !!

http://globalplantation.org/aj_radio/
http://globalplantation.org/aj_radio/
http://globalplantation.org/aj_radio/

add to favs or something lol


yeah we all saw that fake cartoon plane. pretend that TV is real.


It's sick, because we all know Bush doesn't give a damn about the unborn fetus... he just doesn't want to loose the support of his ever dwindling number of Christian followers.


Sgt. Studenko Right ON!!! Not only do we need to dole over a few bucks more importantly we need to continue the grass roots effort and not let up until November 2008 (& beyond of course). Money is great and greatly needed, but our continual efforts to promote him amongst our friends and associates, but bombard the media non stop about why we don't hear more about him, how we'd all like to hear more of his ideas and platform ect.ect....

God Bless you Chris Jones, but now is the time to ignite and empower ourselves and this movement and never let fear enter our minds.

TheEliteStoleMyCountyMike Good to see a fellow Minnesotan on here....Your so right what Ventura showed is that it can be done.

This is our AMERICAN REVOLUTION and we must use and exhaust every effort and avenue available to us throug our legal and political systems as possible, before we give up the ship and accept our fate or proclaim a full out Revolution. This is going to take a serious committment and a lot of time by each and every person. Volunteer at www.ronpaul2008.com come up with our own local organizations and not wait till one is created and extra finances are wasted in that process, money can go better to Advertising. Anyone out there with Advertising connections get your organizations ect. to donate time or space or whatever we can come up with!!

JUST DO IT!!

GET"R DONE!!


The Septh. Eleventh attack was a plot to subjugate and divide the people, then? Now is the time to purge the outward world of reality, from the inside out.


OK, everyone knows that Al Qaeda was the code name for a list on CIA computers, but the admin has gone too far in merging their ideals.

First the president channels OBL and reads the Al-Qaeda charter (who translated it?) to USA during a speech at CENTCOM. Now the #2 Al Qaeda guy releases an internet video using Republican talking points.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...com/2007/05/05/
Boy, al-Zawahiri couldn't have served up Republican talking points better if he was on Grover Norquist's fax distribution list, could he? And the timing…isn't it amazing how al Qaeda videos seem to come out just when Republican backs are against the wall?

In a new video posted today on the Internet, al Qaeda's number two man, Ayman al Zawahiri, mocks the bill passed by Congress setting a timetable for the pullout of U.S. troops in Iraq.

"This bill will deprive us of the opportunity to destroy the American forces which we have caught in a historic trap," Zawahiri says in answer to a question posed to him an interviewer.

Continuing in the same tone, Zawahiri says, "We ask Allah that they only get out of it after losing 200,000 to 300,000 killed, in order that we give the spillers of blood in Washington and Europe an unforgettable lesson."

Wake up guys, it is a good cop bad cop scam and we are a low class American on the streets of LA. They are partners in crime and we are the victims


NPR stated that all of the Republicans running for President are opposed to a pullout (on 05/04/0) in their synopsis of the debate on MSNBC.


RE: BLACKWATER SHADOW ARMY

HEY ALEX,
YOU SHOULD BE AWARE THAT ADS BY GOOGLE IS ADVERTISING FOR MERCENARIES UNDER THIS YOU TUBE ARTICLE ON PRISONPLANET. THIS IS DISGRACEFUL WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE!


http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05...bertson-romney/
For below comment...


LOOKS LIKE RON PAUL IS THE ONLY REPUBLICAN OPTION/ROMNEY IS LOONY

Romney: Pat Robertson ‘Strengthens And Nurtures The Pillars Of Our Country’

Mitt Romney (R-MA) delivered the commencement address today at Pat Robertson’s Regent University, praising the televangelist who has repeatedly spouted hateful and bigoted remarks. From the excerpts of Romney’s speech released this morning: “This university, its students, its alumni and the faculty serve as an example of Dr. Robertson’s dedication to strengthening and then nurturing the pillars of this community and our country: education, fellowship, and advancement.” Some examples of how Robertson “strengthens” and “nurtures” education and advancement in our country:
Robertson on the vote in Dover, PA in support of evolution science: I’d like to say to the good citizens of Dover: if there is a disaster in your area, don’t turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city.
Robertson on September 11: Two days after the terrorist attacks, Mr. Robertson held a conversation with Jerry Falwell on Mr. Robertson’s TV show “The 700 Club.” Mr. Falwell laid blame for the attack at the feet of “the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians,” not to mention the A.C.L.U. and People for the American Way. “Well, I totally concur,” said Mr. Robertson.
Robertson on Islam: I believe it’s motivated by demonic power. It is satanic and it’s time we recognize what we’re dealing with. … [T]he goal of Islam, ladies and gentlemen, whether you like it or not, is world domination.
Robertson on former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s stroke: Robertson suggested that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s recent stroke was the result of Sharon’s policy, which he claimed is “dividing God’s land.”
Robertson on assassinating Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez: I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it.
Robertson on the federal judiciary being a greater threat than al Qaeda:
Q:
You’ve said that Liberals are engaged in an all-out assault on Christianity…and that the out-of-control judiciary, and this was in your last book “Courting Disaster” is the most serious threat America has faced in nearly 400 years of history, more serious than al Qaeda, more serious than Nazi Germany and Japan, more serious than the Civil War?
Pat Robertson: George, I really believe that.


Sees Things | 05.05.07 - 5:27 pm | #
do i have to beg? ogg link please


Know one cares........
Just keep the T.V. channels coming & the new electronic gismo's to play with each year, ect' ooh and the odd car upgrade from time to time & you can do what you want ....
fill me with just enough material stuff to cloud my thinking & dampen my soul
Just get on with it ...you lot up there with the power you play your games & I'll play mine..

'blind hedgehogs in a big cloth sack'

that's what we have become,

we're all I bit prickly now days & we try to work together to sort things out but there’s so many of us now with the
'Sod you jack I'm ok'
philosophy that its to late….

Just don’t rip the sack !


http://www.theforbiddenknowledge...edge...mbology/ 2o5.htm
sane | 05.05.07 - 5:06 pm
```````
I thought for sure it was GW in the interview, not his father.
Well I almost had it right !
Thanks sane


Some one should make a bumper sticker saying
2008 Too Late Impeach Now
I wonder what South Dakota would say to that.


if the la raza re-conquista crowd can have a national demonstration and get the attention of the media, then one needs to be made on the first day of encampment of bohemian grove.
at the grove bigger than ever, but also nationwide with protesters carrying signs to stop the war, no NWO, abolish secret societies -close bohemian grove, protest is usually small at the grove and people shoved aside to make room for the important people in thier important cars, but 5000 junky cars abandoned at the entrance wouldnt be shoved aside.. so come on californians, you cant afford to drive them cars anyway.. give a gift that keeps on giving.. headaches to the major players of the NWO.


Freemasons like all occultists, refer to their initiates who have completed their initiation, as being "Born Again." In 1988, when George Bush was on the Presidential Campaign Trail; Barbara Walters interviewed him. She asked him a question that caught him off guard. Barbara asked George if he was a Christian. Bush literally stumbled, looked down for a moment, and answered, "If by being a Christian, you ask if I am 'Born Again,' then yes, I am a Christian."

Bush parsed his words carefully, unlike a Born Again Christian. Bush has a lifetime membership in an Illuminist Masonic secret society called, Skull & Bones. The answer that Bush gave is typical of an occultist. They claim to be Born Again. They are also filled with religious ecstasy when the spirit of Lucifer sweeps through them upon Initiation.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge...mbology/ 2o5.htm


>>>>>>BEST ONE LINER FROM DEBATE:

RON PAUL ABOUT BILL CLINTON BEING BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE...

"I VOTED TO IMPEACH HIM"

.


Before the first presidential election in 2000 , and
before I was aware of the NWO , I watched a Barbara Walters ( I think ?) special where she was interviewing GW.
She got into asking all the right questions and - it was a long time ago but I think she asked if he was a christian . I seem to remember him becoming uncomfortable and searching for the right words.I mistook his discomfort for desiring to answer the questiion without alienatating non- christians. finally he said ' if you mean am I born- again ? yes I am ' - something like that.
GW is a wolf in Christian clothes. He was "born again" in a sexual skull and bones ritual in a coffin.
He is a Kristian as you said. A true Christian does not want to see any religion be the law of the land. Including Anti-Christianity.
They need to take their hands off everyone.


Ron Paul.
It appears that your tatings are on the rise, I am hopefull you get there. In all honesty I admire you courage and in intlligence.
History tells us that men of character and honor are a threat to those who do not have these qualiities.
In short, please be carefull, if the polling deck is not allready stacked and your chances are good, they will most certianly attempt to sabatage you one way or another.
My one preocupation is that this gang may atempt a red flagger before 2008.
My sincere hope for you and our nation.


Drudge report had poll of who won debate. By 10A EST Ron Paul was in 2nd. Poll pulled from Drudge by 1030a


>>>>>>>>BREAKING NEWS ALASKAN LAWMAKERS ARRESTED FOR OIL BRIBES

JUNEAU, Alaska — For several thousand dollars and other promises, an Alaska legislator and two former lawmakers threw their support behind a tax scheme and a natural gas pipeline plan that would have benefited an oil services company, prosecutors said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu.../pipeline- bribe
STEVE QUINN | AP | May 5, 2007 10:22 AM EST
The three men, Rep. Victor Kohring of Wasilla, and former state Reps. Pete Kott of Eagle River and Bruce Weyhrauch of Juneau, were arrested Friday but deny wrongdoing. The three Republicans pleaded not guilty at their arraignments. Kohring was charged with extortion, attempted extortion, bribery and conspiracy, according to a federal grand jury indictment unsealed Friday. Kott and Weyhrauch each entered their pleas to four counts, including conspiracy to commit extortion, extortion, bribery and fraud. If convicted of all charges, each of the men could face up to 55 years in prison and a $1 million fine. Prosecutors allege the three were involved in a scheme that unfolded as lawmakers weighed a new petroleum profits tax structure and a contract for a natural gas pipeline last year. Kott, the former House speaker, explicitly said during a teleconference with company officials that he would support the pipeline and the company's preferred version of the tax proposal if he was made warden of a prison the company was building in the Caribbean, according to the indictment. "You'll get your gas line, the governor gets his bill, and I'll get my job in Barbados," he told company executives, the indictment states. The tax passed, but the contract for the pipeline negotiated by former Gov. Frank Murkowski was never approved. The indictment does not name the company, but an attorney for VECO Corp. said it was the company involved. Kott is accused of accepting $8,993 in payments, $2,750 in polling expenses and a future contract as a lobbyist in exchange for his support of the pipeline and a tax proposal that favored the company, according to court documents.Kohring is accused of demanding and accepting up to $2,600 in cash and a $3,000 job for a relative from VECO executives in exchange for his support. The indictment also alleges Kohring sought but did not receive a $17,000 loan for credit card debt. Weyhrauch, a 54-year-old attorney, is charged with helping advance the oil service company's causes in exchange for the promise of legal work in the future for the company, the indictment said.
News of the indictments sent a shock wave throughout the state's capital, where lawmakers were 12 days from adjourning this legislative session.


THis is what you get when you elect a radical religious-socialist fascist-conservatist. Those who continue to support the rape and pillage of Iraq are persons without a conscience and without any manners of undersatnding or guilt.

When one assails a neighbor over a false and untrue allegation, and is then embarrassed post-confrontation by ones foolish and erroneous folly, it is only polite to tuck ones tail between their legs and retire much chastened! It is most definitely NOT the time to start cleaning the neighbors house and rearranging it to suit ones own ridiculous notions and fancies!!

America LOST this war when the premise for our vicious, brutal and unwarranted assault was proven false. There can be no victory in such a horrible, horrific and demeaning TRAGEDY.

As if to add insult to injury, after wantonly and irresponsibly murdering and maiming hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and ruining their lives livelihoods and comerce, we are now ruining their Liberal Republican system of government!

Imagine a nation of Republican Liberty, where the establishment of religious socialism is the First and Foremost law of our Constitution, that engages in a criminal 'nation-building' farce that establishes allows and even promotes both a Sunni religious socialist conservative-fascist 'political party' AND a Shiite religious-socialist conservative-fascist 'political party'!!!

THe recipe for hatred and civil war was implicit in that one single act of unimaginable stupidity.

But then when ones idiotic, hateful, petulant and destructive 'commander in chief' actually comes from a hateful Anglican-episcopal born-again Kristian-Krusader-Koalition-Socialist neo-fascist conservatist so-called 'republican party' in America we can understand how lunacy reigns against all peace everywhere.

Kepp after them Ron Paul you are the only one who actually 'gets it' about what Freedom IS...


NEW WORLD ORDER DICTIONARY DEFINITION

TERRORIST [Noun] :

One who questions the slave labor practices of large corporations.


Example:

Wal-Mart labels Boerne nuns a security threat
http://www.mysanantonio.com/ news...S.3a704ac5.html
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 01:41 AM CDT
Nydia Lopez KENS 5 Eyewitness News
It's a David versus Goliath battle heating up in the Hill Country — a group of nuns from Boerne is taking a stand against Wal-Mart.
The corporate giant reportedly labeled the nuns a security threat after they raised questions about Wal-Mart's business practices.
Sister Susan Mika is part of the Benedectine Sisters, which is part of the Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility. The center has been questioning Wal-Mart's business practices for years.
"We've been raising questions with them for about 17 years, so it's not like they don't know it," Sister Mika said.
Now, the sisters find themselves on Wal-Mart's security threat list. Sister Mika said the group has been wrongly labeled.
"In no way have we ever been a threat to the company in that sense. We might be a threat in the kind of question that we're asking, but not a security threat," Sister Mika said.
The sisters have raised questions on wages, human rights, health care and the pay disparity between CEOs and workers. They believe that's why Wal-Mart has launched a surveillance operation on the small church group.


Post new definition on all churches


John Cochran's report to Peter Jennings at ABC News on 911:

...Peter as you know the president's down in Florida talking about education. He got up out of his hotel suite this morning, was about to leave, reporters saw the white house chief of staff Andy Card whisper into his ear. The reporter said to the president "do you know what's going on in New York?" He said he did and will have something to say about it later. His first (event?) is about a half an hour at an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FlvlNiTuqAI


9-11 Truth Debunkers are Fluent in Eugene Ionesco's Theater of the Absurd. Here is an excerpt from his play, "The Bald Soprano." See if you can spot the similarities in logical reasoning. The parallels are frightening:

MRS. SMITH: He's a good doctor. One can trust him. He never prescribes any medicine that he's not tried out on himself first. Before operating on Parker, he had his own liver operated on first, although he was not the least bit ill.

MR. SMITH: But how does it happen that the doctor pulled through while Parker died?

MRS. SMITH: Because the operation was successful in the doctor's case and it was not in Parker's.

MR. SMITH: Then Mackenzie is not a good doctor. The operation should have succeeded with both of them or else both should have died.

MRS. SMITH: Why?

MR. SMITH: A conscientious doctor must die with his patient if they can't get well together. The captain of a ship goes down with his ship into the briny deep, he does not survive alone.

MRS. SMITH: One cannot compare a patient with a ship.

MR. SMITH: Why not? A ship has its diseases too moreover, your doctor is as hale as a ship; that's why he should have perished at the same time as his patient, like the captain and his ship.

MRS. SMITH: Ah! I hadn't thought of that... Perhaps it is true... And then, what conclusion do you draw from this?

MR. SMITH: All doctors are quacks. And all patients too. Only the Royal Navy is honest in England.

MRS. SMITH: But not sailors.

MR. SMITH: Naturally [A pause. Still reading his paper:] Here's a thing I don't understand. In the newspaper they always give the age of deceased persons but never the age of the newly born. That doesn't make sense.

___________

I never understood why I had to read this insane shit in College. It defies reality, but sure enough now I can see absurdity from a mile away. Thanks college prof and Eugene, I misjudged you guys!


(Athens and Sparta)


When Athens and Troy consolidated power they all went "Greek".


Everyone knows steven jones was planted by the government to discredit the movement. Its quite clear he is undermining the plight of the truth movement with his lousy research and unsupportable claims.
Earl | 05.05.07 - 1:51 pm | #

Dude are the ghost writer for Eugene Ionesco?


And the Spartans didn't even use their Trojans.


I dont think the Greeks feel this way after suffering at the hands of the Muslims for hundreds of years.
A | 05.05.07 - 2:12 pm | #

Yeah thankfully the pedophilia spartans hoodwinked the greeks into thinking they were protected, but they just ended up giving up their children for more pedophilia. Wow arabs are aslo good illuminati scapegoats. Guess history just keeps repeating itself. I'm gonna wear a belt so I don't get "spartaned"


The official 9/11 story, about air fires demolishing
buildings, is complete BS. If this were true, then
why do controlled demolition engineers go to so
much trouble carefully setting cutting charges
on specific columns, and why do they bother to
use so many timers and wiring and explosives...
a process that takes them several days or weeks,
when all they need to do is light up a small
kerosene fire to bring down a building like WTC 7
perfectly, vertically down, symmetrically and
totally demolished, into its foundation footprint,
without damaging any nearby buildings?
Bert | 05.05.07 - 10:39 am | #

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This has got to be one of the most intelligent OBVIOUS arguments to this day, in any forum. WTF hasn't anyone (includung myself) thought of this before? Boy would I like to shove this up shrub/cheneys' asses with a broom handle (and rubber gloves)


re. Ron Paul's debate performance
Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country!!
YES and that means for all of you readers to go to your check books and write
a check for $25, $50, $100 or more, if you can. If you really want to fight the Bush regime and the neocon pricks that are ruining our country, you need to belly up to the bar and make a stand. It takes cash to run a campaign
and Ron Paul is subjecting himself to a high level of risk to win our country back from these thugs and criminals.
(remember Sen. Wellstone)
I wrote my check for $100 today and I urge you to do the same.
The campaign contribution form needed to go with the donation can be reached at the following web site: https://www.ronpaul2008.com/forms.../ contribute.cfm
Now go ahead and do the right thing for America, your own personal freedoms,
your family and most importantly for your children and grand children who will be the benefactor of the society we leave them in the next 2-5 years.
This is real and Dick Cheney and his thugs are playing for keeps!!


I thought this thread was about Lou Dobbs and a Jewish group that I've never heard of. It looks like more "false flag opposition" designed to get the religions to fight each other when in reality it's the corporate elitists who want the open borders.


here's the site

http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artike...13/13208/ 1.html
On S11 GW was not traveling in the usual presidential limo. In fact he was riding in the limo belonging to Jeb Bush. This limo has a television in the back. A closed circuit camera, set up by the government to witness the event, captured the first impact as it happened and sent it via encrypted satellite feed to Bush while he was seated in the limo in front of Booker Elementary. In the limo watching the feed with him was Andrew Card.


One reason they were designed to absorb a 707 accidentally flying into it. Not a 767 aiming for it.
ROFL | 05.05.07 - 11:55 am | #

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Are you really that fckn stupid or a shill screwing with people for min wage?


This is an interesting German site.
It's both in English and German. My German is mediocre
but it details events in Florida at that school on 911
including testimony from a security guard
that he looked into a vehicle used by Geo and Jeb Bush with a CCTV link
to NY to see the 1st crash.
Please evaluate it fully.
Best regards
Sgt Studenko



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First of all, it's a joke that his first comment would concern the skill of the pilot! No concern for the people who were obviously killed in the crash? None whatsoever? Doesn't that strike anybody as odd, to say the least? Where was his so-called compassion? As far as how he saw the first plane hit live, I am able to shed some light on that for you. I received an e mail from a person in Florida, who shall remain nameless, who was there and explained how Bush was able to see the first impact live.

On S11 GW was not traveling in the usual presidential limo. In fact he was riding in the limo belonging to Jeb Bush. This limo has a television in the back. A closed circuit camera, set up by the government to witness the event, captured the first impact as it happened and sent it via encrypted satellite feed to Bush while he was seated in the limo in front of Booker Elementary. In the limo watching the feed with him was Andrew Card.

Mr. Card had opened the rear door preparing to exit and did not close it all the way as GW told him to hold on a second to watch the impact. Unknown to GW and Mr. Card, a person who was there in a security capacity, watched the entire event through the partially open door of the limo. I have spoken to a reporter who was also there, they have verified for me the facts of which limo it was, what time the limo was in front of the school and who was in the back seat.

Bush KNEW the attacks were going to occur. Of that there is no doubt.



http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artike...13/13208/ 1.html


CONGRATULATIONS!!! First to Ron Paul for being the Brave, Intelligent,dignified, successful, and uncompromising to his and AMERICAN PRINCIPLES Patriot, with the Knowledge and Ability to guide and lead us safely back to the Great Country that the Founding Fathers intended for us to have both the Privledge and Honor to live in. Second to all the Great supprters who got out and kept all the chatter on the Blogs, and both polls on MSNBC in Ron's favor to this very moment. If you click on the 2008 GOP Candidate Rankings link on the Politics main page @ MSNBC this is what you'll find

9. Ron Paul
Texas congressman Last Ranking: --
The anti-war Republican stood out, and his answers were the talk of the spin room -- well, parts of it, anyway. Our problem: until he starts to take votes from someone else, we don't know where to place him.

You'll notice he has no ranking next to his name....however if you check out the rest of the candidates you'll notice the highest ranking is #2 for Gulliani ????

At current on the Rate the Candidate poll with 78,064 votes counted Ron Paul leads the pack with a whopping 36% positive votes and an amazing lowest negative rating of 27% with the next closest candidate Mitt Romney at 29% positive and 36% negative ratings. (#2 maybe)
So with a 7% positve and 9% negative margin it should leave no doubt as to the winner of the first debate.

On the Weigh In section poll, vote for which candidate stuck out, on the main Debates page @ MSNBC, Ron leads in the 4 important categories (the other 2 you don't want to lead),

Ron Mitt Rudy John votes
stood out from pack? 37% 23% 17% 8% 58833
showed most leadership? 32% 21% 18% 12% 58056
was most convincing? 35% 21% 15% 10% 57816
most rehearsed answers? 6.3% 24% 22% 31% 56690
avoided questions most? 6.3% 14% 36% 18% 55145
Best One-liner? 30% 16% 14% 15% 55092


We need to keep all these efforts up and bombard the main stream media with demands for more coverage on Ron Paul and his message.

GO RON PAUL!!
Kelly E. Griffin


I dont think the Greeks feel this way after suffering at the hands of the Muslims for hundreds of years.


D-O-R-K
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT SHOULD REMAIN IN WASHINGTON AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION ARE THE 2 PEOPLE THAT VOTED AGAINST THIS WAR, THIS "PATRIOT ACT", AND THESE TWO ILLEGAL INVASIONS!!
THAT MEANS, MY FELLOW AMERICANS, VOTE ALL THE TRAITORS OUT!


Maybe I should read some more. I always heard you can fix ignorance but you cant do anything for stupid.


Everyone knows steven jones was planted by the government to discredit the movement. Its quite clear he is undermining the plight of the truth movement with his lousy research and unsupportable claims.


re NonBeliever, alfred or whatever you wanna call yourself.
Keep talking Writing under 5 names doesn´t really fool anyone, not many people come to this forum to get converted into conspiracy belivers, they already have doubts just like 90% of the population. So what´s my point? You are wasting your time, you are not affecting anyone and people just think you´re a looser. How many hours of your life ticked away while you were thinking up posts for this forum? You know time is precious, *why are you wasting time on nothing?

*Unless you are part of the minimum wage disinfo program in which case i understand you rather drink jolt cola and post on forums than bag peoples food or clean school floors.


Looks like since WWI, Turkey has been important:
http://www.grecoreport.com/ Ameri...il_US_Assoc.htm

Google this for some facts:

....Plame Edmonds Giza


.


I await an analysis that contradicts these findings.
Anonymous | 05.05.07 - 1:23 pm | #

The premise is false
the evidence is incomplete and misleading
the conclusions are delusional
the logic is kafka-esque

Is there something specific you wanted to know more about?

Watch Ryan, Jones, etc. for some info.


PS you might want to get away from your computer every so often, the fresh air will do you good.
Anonymous | 05.05.07 - 1:20 pm | #

Good point, whisperers do like we do...chat with a laptop on the deck. I get to overlook the trees, the birds, the mountains. It is soothing to see this great country's beauty. Hope it will stay despite all the false flags being planned.


LOL. You silly little computer monkey.

I await an analysis that contradicts these findings.

Saying so doesnt make it true!
Actually, im lying. Its a gorgeous day and simply a waste on ignorant.

Do the world a favor and have a glass belly button put in. This way when your head is so far up your ass you can look out to see whats going on in the real world.

Ta Ta,


The Patriots
=
La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo
=
Il-lu-mi-na-ti

Twelve Wisemen's Committee
=
Council of Thirteen

The Patriots (愛国者達, Aikokusha-tachi?), also known as the La-li-lu-le-lo and The Wisemen's Committee are a secret group, revealed in Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, that controls the United States of America. They are dedicated to creating a new world order through acts of blackmail and manipulation on an untold scale, unknown to most of the world.

"The Patriots' first appearance in the series is in Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, and their origins are further revealed in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. Through main secret agents, the Patriots are the ultimate antagonist, as they are often implied in the storyline to be the cause of almost all the trials faced by the main protagonists of the Metal Gear Solid series, Solid Snake, Raiden, and Naked Snake."

"The Patriots; the governing agency operating in complete control behind the scenes of America's political facade. It is headed up by the Twelve Wisemen's Committee. They were the ones responsible for installing remote apps into the software patches (in supposed correction of the Y2K bug) distributed to all National, Municipal, and independant businesses and organizations. This was in planning for the control, filtering, manipulation, and censorship of all digital information that is presently shared nationwide. The media and politics are the toys they hand out, with which and by which all of America is entertained and dissolusioned.

How do you know our alphabet only has 26 letters? How do you know there weren't once more? How does one know whether "Gulf War Syndrome" [the Gulf War Syndrome was caused by depleted uranium] was legitimate, or whether the shots the soliders were given contained certain genomic altercations? What have the Patriots told you?"

In reality the governing agency operating in complete control behind the scenes of America's political facade is the Illuminati. It is headed up by the Council of Thirteen. They were the ones responsible for September Eleventh, Communism, World War I, World War II, the League of Nations, the United Nations, Communist China, the Soviet Union, the "War on Terror", "Feminism", Atheism, the "Gay Rights Movement", Moral Decay, the Federal Reserve, etc etc [the list goes on and on]. They are planning for the control, filtering, manipulation, and censorship of all information that is presently shared nationwide. The media and politics are the toys they hand out, with which and by which all of America is entertained and dissolusioned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Met...ar_%28series% 29


Your ignorance knows no bounds. Whats the matter? You dont like these physics. Did they change these laws?

This is why the true believers are in denial. Explain it away.

She's a witch.

Did you read the second one Shane?

Thank you, come again.

PS you might want to get away from your computer every so often, the fresh air will do you good.



--


Dude that crap is so exposed it is ridiculous. It worked when only 5% did not trust the official story, but with all that has happened, your arguments are so 2002.


I don't need your hate
Burn burn
I decide my fate
Anonymous | 05.05.07 - 1:15 pm | #

Way to expose your wiccan roots, satan worshiper. Truth is unaffected by luciferian deceptions and trickery. When you bring down the curtain, behind it is the wizard, just a cowardly lonely troubled old man.


PLEASE make the font on this page LARGER so that the average joe can READ it.


structure has too much inertia to fall in any direction other than nearly straight down.
Anonymous | 05.05.07 - 1:13 pm | #

Dude that crap is so exposed it is ridiculous. It worked when only 5% did not trust the official story, but with all that has happened, your arguments are so 2002.


Hope that helps guys.


Burn burn burn
Burn the witches
Burn the witches
Don't take time to sew the stitches
Burn the witches
Burn the witches
Don't take time to sew the stitches

I don't need your hate
Burn burn
I decide my fate


If you truly have the time and are interested in learning the answers to some of your questions I highly reccomend these two papers.

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals...urnals...Eagar- 0112.html

http://www.jod911.com/WTC%20COLL...OLL...rd%208-8- 06.pdf

The second deals with explosives and outlines the tough questions you are seeking answers.

Asking the questions isnt the tough part, its hearing out the answers.

Any specific critiques are welcome and encouraged.

Thanks.
Anonymous | 05.05.07 - 1:09 pm | #

That shit is so funny. It is like reading about how the world is flat. I am saving it to use as a side beside comparison of real evidence v. speculative nonsense to fit an incomprehensible theory. Or how to confuse someone so they give up.

Hilarious stuff that fits into kafkaesque theater.

THANKS!


From the first paper:

The floor below (with its 1,300 t design capacity) could not support the roughly 45,000 t of ten floors (or more) above crashing down on these angle clips. This started the domino effect that caused the buildings to collapse within ten seconds, hitting bottom with an estimated speed of 200 km per hour. If it had been free fall, with no restraint, the collapse would have only taken eight seconds and would have impacted at 300 km/h.1 It has been suggested that it was fortunate that the WTC did not tip over onto other buildings surrounding the area. There are several points that should be made. First, the building is not solid; it is 95 percent air and, hence, can implode onto itself. Second, there is no lateral load, even the impact of a speeding aircraft, which is sufficient to move the center of gravity one hundred feet to the side such that it is not within the base footprint of the structure. Third, given the near free-fall collapse, there was insufficient time for portions to attain significant lateral velocity. To summarize all of these points, a 500,000 t structure has too much inertia to fall in any direction other than nearly straight down.


If you truly have the time and are interested in learning the answers to some of your questions I highly reccomend these two papers.

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals...Eagar- 0112.html

http://www.jod911.com/WTC%20COLL...rd%208-8- 06.pdf

The second deals with explosives and outlines the tough questions you are seeking answers.

Asking the questions isnt the tough part, its hearing out the answers.

Any specific critiques are welcome and encouraged.

Thanks.


non believers believe bush
cheney, fed reserve, nat. sec. act, irs, warren commission, 911 official report, wars with afgnsn, iraq, probably iran, venezuela, the tooth fairy, santa, that rats come from dirty rags, and bill orielly
non believers dont believe the facts, the evidence, the testimony, the eye witness, the video footage, the documentation, the truth

i dont know non believers
seems like youve got some stuff backwards in the membrane
insanity maybe
id rather be a "sane" researcher/ investigator
than a
insane debunking pudding pop


http://pocono911truth.com/files/...TV.XviD- WPi.avi

Just got done seeing the first 30 mins

If you have not seen this, it is mandatory to understand more of how corrupt the intelligence and security agencies are.


and from my own eyes it didnt fall into its footprint.
NonBeliever | 05.05.07 - 12:16 pm | #

Gee who should I believe, my lying eyes or your infallible assessment?

We can do this all weekend, I got the time.


in a very healthy brotherly way
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 05.05.07 - 12:18 pm | #

lol - right back at ya


True believers. You are doing alex's work.
NonBeliever | 05.05.07 - 12:20 pm | #

I look at it more like Alex and we are (independently and collectively) doing patriotic work to awaken a sleeping country as to how much has been stolen. You obviously do not like this for some reason. Is there something else you would like to share with us?


Suiceded to blame neocons?
NonBeliever | 05.05.07 - 12:18 pm | #

Now who is crazy???
He found out that Silverstein got a call in the morning to not go with his daughter to have breakfast at their usual spot-top of WTC. He called his daughter to cancel.

then 8:46 AM the sacrificial rite began.


Insider trading is a joke. Find the people who collected the few dollars. Probably the terrorists or people that were close to them.
NonBeliever | 05.05.07 - 12:18 pm | #

Actually was CIA front companies with connections to Bush-thanks for playing.


blah blah blah bah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bah blah Zionists blah blah blah blah blah blah bah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bah blah evil blah blah blah Jews blah blah bah blah blah blah blah blah
celtic canine | 05.05.07 - 12:10 pm | #

Stage III of Operation "Prescott's Final Solution:"

Blame the Jews

It is an excellent way to protect the wizards when the heat gets intolerable, for reference on how well this works see 1920's Germany and Pogroms in Russia. Keeps the attention of the super elites and allows them to profit from the bloodshed.

Jesus said beware of the fake jews, too bad many missed that.


The cult of Alex has spoken. Terrific evidence jane. Good work. We are all very proud you have an opinion.

True believers. You are doing alex's work.
Brainwashed...

Surprises me you are more fearful of our own govt then the enemy combatants that openly wish destrutction on the Great Satan.

Keep toiling children. So long and good luck.


Dan Wallace dies in his sleep 2 hours before meeting with Loose Change producers - things happen

Family History? Drugs? Suiceded to blame neocons?
Insider trading is a joke. Find the people who collected the few dollars. Probably the terrorists or people that were close to them.


alquida=things happen

i love you sane
in a very healthy brotherly way


Well said, sane.


911 was an inside job! The official investigations cannot account for what happened..we are getting at the truth and certain people don't like it.

Keep up the good work folks, keep up the good work Alex. You have an audience that is far and wide - we are in the millions now, all doing our own questioning, our own research. You have empowered us to stand up to these dictators who are killing and spreading lies and propaganda. We are being empowered on a local and national level and it can only be a matter of time before the truth comes out on this.

Let these children play their stupid games, that is all they are good at. They just make themselves look even more stupid. We got bigger things to address and they know it.

WELL DONE EVERYONE WHO WANTS THE TRUTH - GOD BLESS YOU.


heres a gift for the 911 truth debunkers
you believe nothing is happening
nothing has happened
nothing is going to happen
alquida is responsible for all evil
all evil is alquida
everybody is alquida
alquida is everywhere
you are the only one who isnt alquida
wait
you may be alquida and dont even know it
kill everyone in iraq because they were connected to alquida
maybe kill everyone in iran for similar logic
kill everyone in afganistan
kill everyone
torture everyone else because they may be alquida
spy on the rest to find hidden alquida
arrest half of the innocent to catch the other half thats alquida
im alquida for talking about alquida
alquida will be fought forever
they cannot be stopped until everyone is dead or in prison
then we will be safe


Interesting conversation, guys.

So how long should it take?
and from my own eyes it didnt fall into its footprint. Believe what youwant about that.


Things happen.
ROFL | 05.05.07 - 11:58 am | #

Coincidence v. conspiracy

Laws of physics are suspended for a few hours - things happen
Crucial videos and audio recordings of the most important day in the last 50 years are missing - things happen
VP has a direct conflict of interest - things happen
Bush gets appointed - things happen
NORAD runs insane drills - things happen
Rumsfeld misplaces 2.3 billion 9/10/2001 - things happen
Dan Wallace dies in his sleep 2 hours before meeting with Loose Change producers - things happen
Wellstone (only senator opposed to gulf war 1) dies in a planecrash - things happen
Hunter S. Thompson is mysteriously suicided after a recording of him opens the Loose Change movie - things happen
Bush lies - things happen
condi lies - things happen
justice system is manipulated to stop carol lamm's investigation into CIA/Drug trafficking and corruption with #3 Dusty Foggo - things happen
lead islamic fundamentalist, mohammed atta turns out to be a coke mule in the Bush cartel - things happen
CD cleans up the site for $7 billion - things happen
EPA report is scrubbed to get rid of the evidence - things happen
halliburton still sells weapons to iran - things happen
CIA invented islamic fundamentalism - things happen
insider trading investigation is halted - things happen
anthrax investigation is halted - things happen

WOW, I GUESS YOUR RIGHT - THINGS HAPPEN


WHAT DID YOU EXPECT FROM THESE ZIONIST EVIL VERMIN!!!!this is NOT new.....the only thing that is new is this forum and others like it...I'm sure they will go after the internet forums as well......this has been going on for 3500 freakin' years....they have created 2 other Zionist Hebrew wannabe religions and enjoy lining their pockets by pitting these 2 false God Yahweh belief systems against each other ALL through history!!!


re ROFL
Regardless what hits anything sideways it will not affect the speed it falls downward. You can hit a cat with a nuclear bomb and it will not change the earths gravitational field. What is Newtons third law of physics? Do you need help understanding it? If you have trouble with these things i will be happy to help you, but you need to ask a real question, don´t just speculate on forces occurring when airplane hits building, that´s complicated stuff, free fall is not.


The only value added by genetic engineering is its patented uniqueness. Otherwise the value of cockroach genes, and human chimeras inside plant life is a total nightmare. Of course all of this is planned that way, all common decency aside.


"The time it took for those buildings to fall? Again, how long should it take? No one really knows."
- The laws of physics might have something to say, as in freefall speed.

" It was unexpected by all accounts but it happened."
- Of course it was unexpected, as far as the victims were concerned. Any accident or inside job would be unexpected.

"Things happen. The construction of the building is often overlooked, it was integral. Do some research on the actual construction. Most buildings aren't as open and are made with abundance of concrete. These was mostly steel and air. Look it up. The info is there".
- Steel and air that freefell into its' own footprint - twice. Steel and air that took a strong, central core with it. At freefall speed.


Peace out cub scout.


Jebus help me.

The terrorist had names like American John Smith.
You dont think you can find an abu or mohammed or ahmed al or marwan.

If you found two hercules Q rockefellers Id be a little more skeptical.

That is horse shit. You question the wrong things sometimes, but I hope that answers that one.


PFFFT, I got IED's to build here, seeya einstein


oh, and it got hit by a plane. How long it stood up allowing people to escape with their lives is a testament to the engineering.

A plane like that is nothing more than a guided missile.


gee, I must be the easter bunny too.

come on einstein, youre still signing entries as ROFL.. how brilliant.

howbout the 8 of em alive in other countries now
that were supposedly killed in a fireball impact, but nevermind the facts.


"Dear Alfred (i can see there is no relation to Albert)

It would take minimum 3 times as long. Anyone with even the most basic knowledge of physics knows this. Remember that acceleration in any medium (including air) is finite? I don´t claim to know what happened, but anyone can clearly see that those buildings are not collapsing the way the official reports say. Do you really think that 7 out of 9 investigations of 9/11 would be secret if they all had the same conclusion?"

..the buildings also fell straight down into their own footprint, despite the claimed large-scale fires and buckled steel. The building's structural rigidity was affected and yet they didn't topple - they fell down like a pack of cards at freefall speed.

I have never seen people get so shirty as the one's who are on here attacking people who question - and when you have people who deal in physics and structural analysis on a daily basis asking these questions (without answer), you get even more irate.

Nope..I wonder just who is getting irate..just who is using spam bots to drum up the name-calling, the personal attack.............the diversion.

I prey to god this country doesn't have another 911..because if it did, you people would be the first to condone it. Possibly the first to instigate a war before it's even been established there were people from that country who were responsible. The first to kill another 1/2 million people overseas and that's in one vicinity alone.

That is un-American and worse, it creates two things:

1) Hatred for us ALL
2) Erosion of our rights under the premise of security

Combine these things and you have a prison state - and the justification for this state is based on something the American people did not condone. If these things are going to be done in our name then we have a Goddamn right to question 911..in fact we have EVERY right.

The people who don't like question are just going to have to deal with it, ideally without war and bloodshed or premeditated attacks on civil liberty.


Neocon warm-ogres sounds about right. Of course that is an understatement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogre


. Tthe time it took for those buildings to fall?

Again, how long should it take? No one really knows. It was unexpected by all accounts but it happened. Ever see a car crash where it splits in two? It is not planned that way but for whatever reasons it happens.

Things happen. The construction of the building is often overlooked, it was integral. Do some research on the actual construction. Most buildings arent as open and are made with abundance of concrete. These was mostly steel and air. Look it up. The info is there


. The accuracy of those fresh-faced pilots (who traind in the US)?

Ever see them is person? Kinda hard to miss.
One reason they were designed to absorb a 707 accidentally flying into it. Not a 767 aiming for it.


Those are truly the govts to fear. You dont know how good it is to live in the West, esp the US.
Its not all candy and roses but that is the current state of affairs.
The best part is if you dont like Bush will be gone in 2 years because its a democracy. Try that in China or Iran.

--
If you resent question and resolution over these issues then you have a problem with democracy. Please go and live in China or Iran.


Silverstein has NOTHING to do with this.

Those buildings were terror targets. Insurance is the norm. You dont get a brand new car without collision do you? It wasnt easy for him to collect that either. They said it was an act of war. He had to convince them it was terrorism

You think Insurance would hand over a few billion just because he has a policy?

Ever get into a fender bender?

And the money he colelcted HAS to go back to rebuilding. He did not profit.


Wrong.. WRong. Wrong!!! There was damage for blocks. Buildings were damaged.
They werent small fires, 20 acres large is not small.

A fucking plane hit the building to retard. Did you forget that little part already. Jesus H christmas.

Pull your head out of your ass already.

And I think you answered your own question about why it was impossible to rig that building. IT takes weeks. Sorry pal, those buildings were always full and tere was no powerdown. That was uncorroborated BS and even if, only accounted for one building.

did I mention, AIRPLANES AND COLLPASING 110 STORY BUILDINGS WERE INVOLVED.

AIRPLANES. 20,000 gallons of JEt fuel. MILLIONS, MILLIONS< POUNDS OF RUBBBEL.

KNOCK THIS SHIT OFF ALREADY.

PLANES. 767's BIGGER THAN ANY PLANE IMAGINED WHEN THESE BUILDINGWS WERE DESIGNED IN THE 60's!!!

Silly ass.

-------> Would you care to explain..

. Tthe time it took for those buildings to fall?
. The fact that official investigation is inconclusive?
. The manner in which evidence for independant anyalysis was moved to a private location, shortly after which it was destroyed?
. The accuracy of those fresh-faced pilots (who traind in the US)?
. Why anti-CS seem to be so angry and defensive

Get used to question..especially with issues like the way in which the NAU has been implemented (inlcuding the deal with the EU). Get used to debate about the immigration crisis.

If you resent question and resolution over these issues then you have a problem with democracy. Please go and live in China or Iran.


Dear Alfred (i can see there is no relation to Albert)
It would take minimum 3 times as long. Anyone with even the most basic knowledge of physics knows this. Remember that acceleration in any medium (including air) is finite? I don´t claim to know what happened, but anyone can clearly see that those buildings are not collapsing the way the official reports say. Do you really think that 7 out of 9 investigations of 9/11 would be secret if they all had the same conclusion?


I dont think you know what a nazi style interment camp is.

More sympathy for the terrorists. My heart bleeds for them.

http://www.geocities.com/factsno...actsnotfantasy/

Dont confuse my condemnation of what happened that day as acceptance of what is going on presently. Or the mismanaged war that is taking place, imo.


explain how its a war on terrorism and were supposed to live in fear yet our borders are left wide open and how homeland security is all about spying on citizens, not stopping terrorists or crime.
nevermind the body parts that got BLOWN OUT onto other buildings rooftops 911 , forget about 911 even.. look at all that has been ushered in since they pulled this stunt, and who has benefitted, and say it wasnt an inside job.. silversteins investment on the buildings and the massive insurance against terrorist attack specifically, put options on airline and other stocks relative to the incident BEFORE 911, truther bashers TRY to ignore the facts and focus on the buildings collapses .. THREE BUILDINGS not TWO.
so yeah EINSTEIN ... ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ... I laugh at youre weak excuses and faulty logic. jam denius I swear.


You are straying for the topic.
What an intelligent response.
Glad you thought it was funny.


tell me they havent gutted the constitution, havent built nazi style internment camps and arent war criminals for supplying nuclear waste minutions for this illegal war too EINSTEIN !!
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AlfredEinstein | 05.05.07 - 11:28 am | #

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tell me they havent gutted the constitution, havent built nazi style internment camps and arent war criminals for supplying nuclear waste minutions for this illegal war too EINSTEIN !!


Ok. First, your thing says that there was no video footage of the first plane aired until the next day. That is a lie. I watched the morning of 9/11 here in Alaska. The SAME footage of the first plane.


ps Have a nice day


Whats a good time for a 110 story skysraper to fall?

I really would like to know.

All you do is ask silly rhetorical questions. This is a real one.

Maybe you could tell me what a 300,000 lb plane flying at full speed, 500mph or so force of impact is.

Did you know it took less than 90 seconds to fly across manhattan island?

Did you know wreckage was found as far as 10 blocks away?

They are still finding pieces to this day scattered all over rooftops?

Do you know when buildings are wired they also cut support beams throughout the structure. When they do this a stiff wind could cause it to shake?

That when they a building is rigges, detonators, explosives, cases, caps are found far far away from the crash site.

And you expect people to believe none of this was found.

Oh well. Cant fight city hall. You will understand one day like most people who didnt believe. You have to find out for yourself though.

http://www.911myths.com/index.html

Check these facts and sources and let the world know whats innacurate.
Being a true believer I expect something in the order of its BS, I know what I saw, or the govt did it because thats all i want to hear.
Maybe they did.
Anyone who's telling you they know exactly what happened is full of it. One thing for sure though is those buildings fell as a result of the crash, the fires, and the construction. Thats a fact jack.


That explains it alright! I know what part of the equation you are missing.

So, professor, how long should it take? I expect your detailed, insightful analysis.

btw, no one questions the 2 towers collapse. At least not jowenko and the other demolition people.

Id like to hear your analysis. Please, dont quote prisonplanet. That is not a source.


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Stopwatch + Video + Brain = Official Story is a lie from start to finish
ak48 | 05.05.07 - 11:08 am | #


Stopwatch + Video + Brain = Official Story is a lie from start to finish
ak48 | 05.05.07 - 11:08 am | #

Nice one! It is so true, it used to be the truthers that were on the defensive, now it is clearly the debunkers. They are going completely nutty!


Insight into why our intelligence is so messed up:

http://pocono911truth.com/files/...TV.XviD- WPi.avi
Link to Sibel Edmonds, Kill the Messenger in English

http://georgewashington.blogspot...ick- cheney.html
But even well-informed people probably don't know that -- in the 70's -- Cheney was instrumental in generating fake intelligence exaggerating the Soviet threat in order to undermine coexistence between the U.S. and Soviet Union, which conveniently justified huge amounts of cold war spending. See also this article. This scheme foreshadowed Mr. Cheney's role in generating fake intelligence in Iraq by 30 years.

http://www.atimes.com/editor/CI1...r/ CI14Ba01.html
Asia Times Editorial 9/14/2001 (what has changed?)
If the US is intelligently serious about its declaration of war on international terrorism, it will not engage in quick flight-forward reaction against uncertain targets. It will see this as a protracted war, it will undertake the "no women, no beer" intelligence efforts required, it will shake up a complacent, arrogant and incompetent intelligence community from top to bottom, it will build the alliances which alone can assure success in the longer run. It will consider as well that defeat of a fanatical, religiously-inspired enemy is not merely - or even primarily - an intelligence and military task. It's the historical task of proving the values and resiliency of free societies under the rule of law.


Why are all the self proclaimed debunkers so angry? And why doesn´t anyone explain why the buildings fell at free fall speed. That means that the falling rubble had to keep accelerating all through the fall. Popular mechanics doesn´t explain this, NIST doesn´t explain it, 9/11 commission doesn´t either. Any moron with a stop watch can check it out, free fall speed, no debate on that point. Can only be accomplished with explosives, no one debates that. The official story doesn´t explain it, in other words, the official story is bullshit. No spacebeams needed, no magic bullets. Stopwatch + Video + Brain = Official Story is a lie from start to finish.
Now if anyone disputes that they simply needs to take physics 101, it´s really that simple.


Some people really need to get their CT's straight.

I know of at least 5. They all contradict eachother.

Educate yourselves, from a variety of resources and dont discount the ones you disagree with.

Sad comment on American society. You know it isnt 1870.
This is pointless.
Cleanup aisle three.
Aisle 3.
Thank you


Youre a poet and you dont know it! he he he
--
woke up this morning to storm troopers battering
families in a LA park
nice guys
i know
youre here to help
thank you sir
may i have another
billy club to my noggin
can you please shoot my child with a rubber bullet
nice suit
the black on black thing really works good here
hey heres an idea
lets put the same black mask team on the border
let em billy club some drug runners
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 05.05.07 - 9:10 am | #

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Wrong.. WRong. Wrong!!! There was damage for blocks. Buildings were damaged.
They werent small fires, 20 acres large is not small.

A fucking plane hit the building to retard. Did you forget that little part already. Jesus H christmas.

Pull your head out of your ass already.

And I think you answered your own question about why it was impossible to rig that building. IT takes weeks. Sorry pal, those buildings were always full and tere was no powerdown. That was uncorroborated BS and even if, only accounted for one building.

did I mention, AIRPLANES AND COLLPASING 110 STORY BUILDINGS WERE INVOLVED.

AIRPLANES. 20,000 gallons of JEt fuel. MILLIONS, MILLIONS< POUNDS OF RUBBBEL.

KNOCK THIS SHIT OFF ALREADY.

PLANES. 767's BIGGER THAN ANY PLANE IMAGINED WHEN THESE BUILDINGWS WERE DESIGNED IN THE 60's!!!

Silly ass.

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The official 9/11 story, about air fires demolishing
buildings, is complete BS. If this were true, then
why do controlled demolition engineers go to so
much trouble carefully setting cutting charges
on specific columns, and why do they bother to
use so many timers and wiring and explosives...
a process that takes them several days or weeks,
when all they need to do is light up a small
kerosene fire to bring down a building like WTC 7
perfectly, vertically down, symmetrically and
totally demolished, into its foundation footprint,
without damaging any nearby buildings?


Debate compilation of Ron Paul
http://digg.com/ 2008_us_election..._on_Drudge_Poll


A cool interview with Mike Gravel about the Nation Initiative, with a little history of the constitution included.
http://digg.com/politics/ Mike_Gr...vel_Interviewed


it is the same story with big oil, all that we have produced HERE is shipped overseas and we import what we get to use, as carlyle gets rich for transporting it and polluting.. also british petroleum has bought up all refineries and distribution companied, but keep the "old" company names at the gasoline stations.. because it WAS pissing everyone off to see BP stations everywhere. look how many US held offshore rigs have been sold off too. no joke.


Ron Paul, Let him be heard (and seen). Contact MSNBC.
http://digg.com/politics/ Ron_Pau...d_Contact_MSNBC


That's interesting because Quebec, where I live, sells a huge proportion of it's hyroelectric (dam generated) energy to the North Eastern US. So you guys could be keeping your energy and we could be keeping ours, and supplying each to it's own country. But we don't.
TimM | 05.05.07 - 9:54 am | # exactly!! they wouldnt be able to leech the bipolar taxation.


Why does anybody think that homeland security will protect us???

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...sa-missing- data

They are incompetent and corrupt at best, but more likely they are truly nefarious.


Mission Accomplished in Iraq:
http://www.dav1d.net/2007/05/04/...to-death-video/


its already done, a friend of mine in illinois is smack between 3 nuclear power plants, she pays very high rates and they just increased the rates (and taxes on it) 25% !!! why ? because these nuclear plants are dedicated to feeding chigago and canada.. they get the cheap power, she gets the steam bath
Sees Things | 05.05.07 - 7:52 am | #
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That's interesting because Quebec, where I live, sells a huge proportion of it's hyroelectric (dam generated) energy to the North Eastern US. So you guys could be keeping your energy and we could be keeping ours, and supplying each to it's own country. But we don't.


AAA, you answered a lot of questions I had with that name. I do not have a current status, but this guy has been warning us for decades.

http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/ ...ykeletters.html


This Gil Heron one is good too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...TCQSk2l8bc& NR=1


On page nine of this document from the SPP meeting in Banff last year is where they talk about evolution of the North American Union by stealth. They want so much the security perimeter around all of North America, but they don't think people will go for that. So in the meantime by stealth, they want to work on the integration of infrastructure such as energy, food, water, travel, medical and emergency preparedness so that the process of integrating the whole infrastructure will convert people in these sectors first, before they work on security and dropping the borders officially so that the general public doesn't find out about it until it's too late. They hope that by doing it this way, by the time they are ready to annouce the NAU, most people will see "the benefits" and want it anyways.
Bolton Agenda and Notes (Banff meeting)
http://www.judicialwatch.org/ arc...nNotesBanff.pdf
Judicial Watch SPP documents page
http://www.judicialwatch.org/SPP.shtml

All of these notes are in PDF format and are just scanned so you can't search the documents for specific words. I downloaded all of them and ran them through OCR character recognition software so that words or phrases can be located. If anyone wants copies, I can e-mail them to you.


anyone read hartford van dyke papers?
why is he in fed prison?
anyone know?


Gil Scott Heron still relevant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=e5smPcN8AoE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G...h? v=GPvrnCoHSwo


This story if noone remembers:

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/...rash/ index.html


Anyone remember that boy that flew a plane into a bank building in FL several years ago? Was there any research into that event being a black-op?


start with shooting the pissant drug dealers they hire so they have to look for new people to hire to sell at the street level, a REAL sting operation.


trouble is, the drug runners OWN them


woke up this morning to storm troopers battering
families in a LA park
nice guys
i know
youre here to help
thank you sir
may i have another
billy club to my noggin
can you please shoot my child with a rubber bullet
nice suit
the black on black thing really works good here
hey heres an idea
lets put the same black mask team on the border
let em billy club some drug runners


Last words on the audio, "speak the truth to power, till I have no breath left."

Nice!


http://911blogger.com/node/8350

LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT TEASER RELEASED
sane | 05.05.07 - 8:36 am | #

Definitely moved from defense to offense!!!!

Finally!!!!


http://911blogger.com/node/8350

LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT TEASER RELEASED


Bush requests Tel Comp. given absolution.on survelances.
Bushys.
JEB BUSH like his father says is a great guy. He sat on the board of directors of the Lincoln Savings & Loan, which was the biggest of the savings and loans to collapse during the great savings and loan scam that robbed senior citizens of their life savings, to the tune of 150 billions dollars. How could we forget it was on the front page of every news paper for months, but forget we did?
Grandad Bushy was a Natzi colaberator, business was booming in the Bush family. The ol Gov pardoned him.
Bushy senior repilied to a female newscaster, if the American people knew what I did to this country they would lynch me. His remark aired only once.
MR, BUSH, comander and cheif.
The War in Iraq Costs
$405,403,707,318
The administration began quantifying the conflict long before the U.S. invasion on March 19, 2003, warning that Saddam Hussein had not accounted for "29,984" chemical munitions and "tens of thousands of teaspoons" of anthrax. Declaring Weapons of Mass Destruction. Ther were none. nor were there laboratories for offensive Chems, nor was there Nuclear labs. as we were told.
They do not exist, it was a deception to invade Iraq.
Result. 600,000 innocents killed, civilians.
4000 of our troops, so they say, I sincerely beleive its higher.
Torture, has returned to our military.
Habeus Corpus, constitutional right, removed.
Survelance, unauthorized wiretaps.
Trillions in national debt.
911, demolition.
WMD's, again was a deception to invade.
Have you ever seen children and infants mutilated by bombings, Dads our there, imagine coming home after work and finding your house in ruins, and your entire family killed, imagine scraping your wife and children from the walls and floors so that you may bury them.
America, the memory lives within the hearts of the citizens who want freedom, rights and liberty.


katrina was an experiment, no doubt.
Sees Things | 05.05.07 - 8:10 am | #

I do not have much info on this, I personally believe the aftermath was far more purposeful and the lack of work on the levees prior is criminal. NO was always a hotbed for hurricanes, I think the technology must be easier for tornadoes, too many factors with hurricanes. However, I do believe that the tsunami was a test and the real thing will paralyze the world far more than hurricanes. voxfux has an interesting video about it. I checked out his claims and he was dead right.

at least 1/4 million dead in a few days; it was a NWO dream (except for the lack of fire and explosions).


shoving the hurricane there wasnt enough, didnt do the damage they wanted, is why they blew the levy after the storm had passed, there were locals who heard the explosions. all help was denied as stormtroopers took over in the area, and still, of over 800M donated only 40M used.


And if that is not enough, it seems like there have been some advancements on a tornado machine. Has anyone ever seen such perfectly formed tornadoes before? So many coming from no where? Is anyone really looking into what is causing them?
sane | 05.05.07 - 8:03 am | #

yes, saw article that katrina was shoved to new orleans with scalar tech ... HAARP stuff. which makes sense with FEMA overlords preventing help, the gun seizures of citizens on dry land but not the 'ghetto's .. where theyed have been resisted fiercly.. katrina was an experiment, no doubt.


http://infowars.net/articles/may.../ 040507EUUS.htm

this is just more treason at work, gotta see it.


Page 1 talks about the need for an integrated energy infrastructure. Why on earth does Canada the US and Mexico need an integrated energy structure. Jeez. Makes absolutely no sense, unless you want a global government.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/ arc...nNotesBanff.pdf
TimM | 05.05.07 - 5:22 am | #

Results from the Canada/US integrated energy structure. It is a pyramid, we are on the bottem. The guys in the middle are greedy energy companies that will also eventually be herded into camps. But in the meantime, they are tricked by using their greed, like Ken Lay's greed. Integrating energy without regulation/transparency/oversight is like allowing Dick Cheney to run our air defense (what happened last time we did that?).

This is how Enron was able to make a fake energy crisis for profits, also how the entire Northeast blacked out when Cleveland went down (how do we let something so stupid happen?)

Since Carter, not one administration/Congress has dealt with the energy issue and have actually made it so much worse.

But energy is just another enslaving tool. They are really working hard right now on the food issue. We are going to be paying a scarcity tax on everything soon.

And if that is not enough, it seems like there have been some advancements on a tornado machine. Has anyone ever seen such perfectly formed tornadoes before? So many coming from no where? Is anyone really looking into what is causing them?


An top level DHS agent, who wishes to remain anonymous because he is not authorized to speak, said "....imagine how many people could be affected by this. It is our God-given right to walk on the sidewalks and not pay any attention to where we step. These islamofacists really hate our freedoms. The American people need to understand that these intrusions on their liberty are meant to protect their freedom to go blindly about life."
The Amazing Kretzkin | 05.05.07 - 7:46 am | #

Yeah, the constitution specifically mentions the freedom of walking on sidewalk and never mentions privacy.


Page 1 talks about the need for an integrated energy infrastructure. Why on earth does Canada the US and Mexico need an integrated energy structure. Jeez. Makes absolutely no sense, unless you want a global government.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/ arc...nNotesBanff.pdf
TimM | 05.05.07 - 5:22 am | #

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its already done, a friend of mine in illinois is smack between 3 nuclear power plants, she pays very high rates and they just increased the rates (and taxes on it) 25% !!! why ? because these nuclear plants are dedicated to feeding chigago and canada.. they get the cheap power, she gets the steam bath


Two more Republicans co-sponsored the Bush Impeachment articles introduced by gun controlling traitor Kucinich. Good news I guess.
http://www.counterpunch.org/ lind...ff05032007.html
TimM | 05.05.07 - 6:12 am | #

Kucinich is not only for gun control, he is also for a dem going on Fax News. He also comes off as the weakest (a.k.a. colmes from H&C). When he pulled out the pocket constitution, the visual said: I am so weak and the constitution is such a small thing. He is NWO whether he knows it or not. He is there to show everyone what happens when you promote peace (like Carter but worse). The country becomes weak and evil people will get us, The message is: sure neo-cons are demented, but they are stronger than kucinich. Paul and Gravel are fighters and will not pull out a flimsy pocket constitution, they know the constitution in their heart and come from it when they speak.

I'm sorry, but I have given up on Kucinich as being helpful. The impeachment thing is the wrong tactic. Gravel is a genius tactician (ended the Vietnam war-imagine the tactics for that). He is now being respected by the dem congress and are helping them to resolve the war before the election, not after. Hillary, a fucking senator, keeps saying she will end it when president. I do not know about you but I say, " you are a seanator, what are you doing right now, today to end it?"
To think she is so impotent to say that is nuts.

Edwards has been working for a while on it, Feingold, others. Now when her people tell her to, Hillary jumps on the bandwagon and joins the real fight of getting our kids home instead of using the Iraq war as a campaign platform.


Re: Iran to "break the leg" of enemies: Ahmadinejad

In related news, the FBI and the department of homeland security are warning the administration that Iran Terrorist cells are planning to dig holes in sidewalks so that innocent civilians will fall and 'break their legs.' They have decided that installing a camera at all major sidewalks, and training volunteers to "watch where you walk" may be the only way to save innocent femurs and humorous'.

They warning people to not walk on the sidewalks unless absolutely necessary, and cover themselves with plastic sheeting and duct tape, just in case they fall and break their legs.

An top level DHS agent, who wishes to remain anonymous because he is not authorized to speak, said "....imagine how many people could be affected by this. It is our God-given right to walk on the sidewalks and not pay any attention to where we step. These islamofacists really hate our freedoms. The American people need to understand that these intrusions on their liberty are meant to protect their freedom to go blindly about life."


It not only very common, it is the overwhelming majority of political commentators in the West who live in TOTAL FEAR FEAR FEAR of the Jews. President Carter is about as powerful as it gets, and he has a hard time telling the truth about them. Alex Jones is a small fish in a big sea of Jewish sharks. HE IS WISE - to be terrified and peeing his pants over the Jews. They WILL eliminate him if he goes too far. He does have a genuine duty to fear them, because if he dont, his crusade ends. It is a tough choice. Not one I readily agree with. There are battles and there are wars. He believes kneeling to his Jewish masters will win him out in the long run; he is probably right. If he goes at them head on - the ENTIRE MEDIA will scream he is 'anti-semite' and he vanishes. I want to thank him for this story. For him, this took great courage. and HE WILL!!! get a lot of Emails from the Jews threatening him with their terrorism. HE WILL. I understand that. You SERVE them, or suffer. That is the Khazaristan/Israel law of the land.


ENGINEERING FACTS ABOUT WTC STEEL:

Melting point = 1532 Celcius, around 2800 F

Yield strength = over 600 MPa. Does not lose
any strength up to 300 C. Steel drops to half
it's maximum normal strength at around 650 C,
but it is still very very strong at around 300 MPa,
and cannot possibly be "as weak as air" to allow
a free-fall accelerating collapse with gravity.

Fire temperature in 101.3 kPa or 1 bar absolute,
1 atmosphere air pressure = 233 C to 300 C,
depending on breeze.

In very strong winds, fire may reach up to 600 C,
but still not hot enough to melt aluminium or glass.

The steel below where the planes each hit the
towers were not damaged or weakened by any
fire, since there were no flames visible and no
smoke in the lower levels. The South Tower WTC2
stood strong and stable for 56 minutes after it
was first hit. The North Tower WTC1 stood stable
for 102 minutes after it was hit by a plane. None
of the towers showed any signs of instability
during this time, and there is NO indication of any
signs of impending movement or collapse.

The concrete floors are incredibly strong and
have a yield strength typically over 4000 psi, or
between 27 MPa to 42 MPa for the floor slabs.

HOW DID ALL OF THESE STRONG CONCRETE
FLOOR SLABS GET CONVERTED INTO FINE DUST
AND POWDER while they were falling downwards?

When concrete fails, it cracks and fragments into
smaller but still solid large chunks... never do they
disintegrate completely into FINE POWDER with
particle sizes less than 1mm in diameter because
concrete is just TOO DAMN STRONG!! How did
all the concrete floor slabs get converted all into
fine powder with no stack of pancakes, or solid
floor slabs, remaining and sitting one on top of
each other?

Concrete is also unaffected by air-fuel fires,
because the melting point of concrete is between
1800 to 2500 C, and fire cannot convert solid
concrete into giant clouds of fine powder. This
is EXPERIMENTALLY IMPOSSIBLE. Even if you
throw a piece of solid concrete from off the top
of a building the same height as the twin towers,
and it hits the ground, it will break up and divide
into smaller, still large concrete pieces. It will NOT
convert completely into fine dust or powder, the
way the Twin Towers did on 9/11... This cannot
be done without high-energy explosive charges.


Why do you think the Province of Quebec(highest number of rivers in the world) is getting sponsored by SEVERAL(google it)American foundations and enterprises or building dams?
We already excess by far the energy we create,distribute AND export...Why build more except that an INEVITABLE trade in ENERGY comes around.


The official 9/11 story, about air fires demolishing
buildings, is complete BS. If this were true, then
why do controlled demolition engineers go to so
much trouble carefully setting cutting charges
on specific columns, and why do they bother to
use so many timers and wiring and explosives...
a process that takes them several days or weeks,
when all they need to do is light up a small
kerosene fire to bring down a building like WTC 7
perfectly, vertically down, symmetrically and
totally demolished, into its foundation footprint,
without damaging any nearby buildings?

The fact that so much molten metal was found in
all the basements of the 3 WTC buildings, is
damning proof that a controlled demolition was
in fact used, because fuel-air fires cannot create
liquid iron, due to insufficient oxygen (O2) in the
normal air we breathe.

The 9/11 Case is well and truly closed for good...

Focus on finding and arresting the real criminals
who mass murdered almost 3000 people that day.

Start with Larry Silverstein (WTC lease owner),
David Rockefeller and the CFR (Council on
Foreign Relations), Dick Cheney, Donald
Rumsfeld, George W. Bush... put them all through
lie detector tests and investigate all their secret
dealings with war profiteers and oil companies
that are profiting from the middle-east wars now.

Are we gutless and stupid enough to allow this
greed and evil to continue endangering our lives?
If we do nothing, we all deserve what's coming...


Ron Paul is in first place and the media telling people that thes only people in the race-Mcain and Gulliani, I guess they figure the fix is already in and Hillary is gonna win the election, but then they figured that they had us fooled in the last Govenor's election but the Minnesota public fooled them and voted for independent Jessie Venturan to the consternation of both parties.It can be done. Tell everyone vote Ron Paul and ignor the media.
theelitestolemycountrymike | 05.05.07 - 2:43 am | #

Ron Paul and Mike Gravel have a real opportunity to take their parties' nominations. They are the only true Americans (putting America before globalization and corporations). There is over a year before the primaries(i think). The top candidates do not seem to have time to go on national tv. journalists have to play catch up, it is like they are celebrities. Paul and Gravel can say yes to any interview request. This will play a big part in getting their message out. With 19 months before the general election, it really is anyone's ball game. But as far as nominations, the rebublicans have such a weak field. Paul really has an unbelievable shot.


Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich ought to run together on the same independent ticket and agree to flip a coin to determine which of them will be president and which of them vice-president. Their staffs should start meeting in secret to work out the differences in their political platforms which will seem be minor when they realize that they are the only politicians talking about preserving Constitutional freedoms.


http://infowars.net/articles/may.../ 040507EUUS.htm

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...101/040507EUUS/

new article, new thread, damn important issue.


Two more Republicans co-sponsored the Bush Impeachment articles introduced by gun controlling traitor Kucinich. Good news I guess.
http://www.counterpunch.org/ lind...ff05032007.html


This story of Ron Paul's speech to the US House of Representives says exactly why the Real ID national ID card does nothing to make us more secure. It was on the front page of Digg this morning.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/...ul/ paul234.html


Page 1 talks about the need for an integrated energy infrastructure. Why on earth does Canada the US and Mexico need an integrated energy structure. Jeez. Makes absolutely no sense, unless you want a global government.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/ arc...nNotesBanff.pdf


The cia actually told the White House not to include the Niger piece in Bush's State of the Union address because they said it could not be verified. Richard Clarke stated this in his self-exculpating book, "Against all Enemies." So did Woodward in his book, "State of Denial." The office of the vice-president over-ruled the available intelligence and the claim was included in Bush's speech. Bush really isn't much more than a goat-boy for BossDick, Mr. Halliburton himself. The whole war is a smokescreen to provide cover while certain companies, like Halliburton, Blackwater, ExxonMobil, BP rape the Iraqi oil fields and plunder the federal treasury.

Hugo Chavez in Venezuela has the right idea:first he nationalised the oil fields and kicked out the major foreign oil companies and now he is trying to nationalize the banks; Chavez is a true socialist and he makes Washington elites very nervous because he is popular in his own country. The government is NOT the enemy, it is the vehicle the enemy uses; the enemy is the corporate culture of illegalities, abuse and greed. Soak the coporations with taxes on their profits, strip them of their "cash equals free speech" status, deny them the right to contribute large sums of money to national electoral candidates, compel them to obey the law and severly punish the corporate chislers and grifters, the liars and the thieves. Force the oil companies to pay the bill for the war, they have the profits from it and it is only fair that they pay the tab....force them to pay the tab.


The next page talks about Mexico providing the health care for the US and Canada. Jesus, this is sick.


The SPP is so hypocritical. On page 7 of this document they say in one line that illegal immigration should not be called such since the US needs more working immigrants because of the aging work force. The next line says labour mobility is key in this integration, that work should go where the market can get the best price for it, and another 3 million jobs will be moved offshore by 2015. How hypocritical is that. Bring the immigrants in and move the jobs out. Pffffffffffffffffffff.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/ arc...nNotesBanff.pdf


There was an Italian mole in the Nigerian embassy cooking up false intelligence

and

When confirming this intel , France told our goverment that this intel was "junk"

Was only confirmed by Britain and Italy wihich and sourses are not spoken of.

I'm guessing our goverment new about it and most likely orchestrated this nonsense junk

I'm still reading this stuff... i tihnk it was Italy who had the mole..i could be mistaken but im pissed!

our CIA was surely in on it.


The Bush administration does not have to show why it puts people on the terror watch list and is known for putting people it dislikes and people criticizing them on the terror watch list.

In theory they could put every disgruntled American on the terror watch list leaving the 2nd amendment only to those who are happy with and benefit from the Bush administration (15% of the people?) according to the bill to deny terror suspects from owning a gun.

This bill effectively means the 2nd amendment cannot be used to defend you against tyranny. Because once you wake up to the tyranny, the tyrannical government views you as a potential terrorist and strips you of your rights. The very same tyranny rescinds your right to own guns. Bye Bye 2nd ammendment.

Further more this bill is unconstitutional, because the bill of rights represents inalienable rights that we are born with, NOT privileges given to us by the government at their own discretion.


Hello Alex..first time trying to contribute to the infowar and I'm not quite this has been submitted to you yet, but I just got through watching Bill Moyers Journal on PBS and he had the co-author of a book named "Collusion" reguarding the "junk" intelligence pertaining to 500 pounds of yellowcake uranium, a reason given by Bush in the State of the Union address as a reason to invade Iraq

so i googled it and bam

http:// prairieweather.typepad.co...sionthe_ye.html

I have no Idea if this has already been reported on your site , i may have missed it

If not, I hope this helps


I support the cause 100%, keep on truckin

I originally tried emailing you and Paul Watson but it got returned, so here ya go


Quick call the medic, Rudy Gulliani has fallen and he can't get up, the media will have to hoist him up in a make believe he won the debates, and call the cable channel media whores to revive John Mcains image too. Ron Paul the David, the only candidate who hasn't sold out, went against the Goliaths of the party hacks. It's simple he represents the public.


american cultural christianity is the church of apostasy that was prophesized by Christ. american cultural christianity is anti-christ.


america offers nothing to the world but crap....


Sean Penn on Bill Maher just said: Bush, Reagan, Rumsfeld, Rice "should be in FUCKING jail!"
sane | 05.05.07 - 1:48 am | #
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Wow. Now if the democrats would just attack their own leaders too by name...


Ron Paul is in first place and the media telling people that thes only people in the race-Mcain and Gulliani, I guess they figure the fix is already in and Hillary is gonna win the election, but then they figured that they had us fooled in the last Govenor's election but the Minnesota public fooled them and voted for independent Jessie Venturan to the consternation of both parties.It can be done. Tell everyone vote Ron Paul and ignor the media.


Maybe Mr. Bush and his relationship with private, global enterprise should be the next question on your list of topics to discuss?


Sean Penn on Bill Maher just said:

Bush, Reagan, Rumsfeld, Rice "should be in FUCKING jail!"


Sorry it is. And when you cant explain your evidence it was stolen. And your witnesses killed.
and the us has no enemies, everyone loves us.

You are so scared you dont even know. But lets blame uncle sam anyway, this way we can bitch when they do try and blow something up again.

I never said the US doesn't have enemies. Do you deny that there appear to be enemies from within? You also state that everything is a conspiracy; again, I'm sorry but I really don't think it is - is that your worst nightmare perhaps? Unconditional love is not a conspiracy - pride in yourself, who you are as a person and what you offer the world is not a conspiracy, it's an obligation. A moral and ethical conscience is not a conspiracy.

Surely if you're telling me that everything is a conspiracy, then aren't you the biggest conspiracy theorist out?

You then tell me I'm scared I don't even know. Sir, unless you are able to get inside my mind and monitor my thoughts and emotions with a probe, you simply cannot say how scared I am..you can only go on what you have analysed from my words. I feel strongly on some issues, not so strongly on others. I don't mind standing corrected as long as it's ultimately for the better of this country - I'm not scared of being wrong and in fact in certain circumstances I wish I was. Are you?

Your final point about "let's blame Uncle Sam" really is a gross generalisation, I feel. If you love your country, why should you not strive to look after it's best interests. I don't want a reason created, to bring foreign terrorists here - there are people in office who have given those people an open invite, either through foreign policy or a border system that is the laughing stock of the world. I am referring to those people - not this country, or Uncle Sam, as a whole. These people control power and influence and contrary to your accusation it's not anti-American to deal with the issues they instigate - it's patriotic.

And who is "they"..you're saying when they try and blow something up..Islamic extremists? I assume you think Islamic extremists flew two planes into the Twin Towers - a view you are entitled to. I'm also entitled to disagree. In addition, I reiterate my position on the border: a terrorist could walk across and indeed every single day that border is breached by thousands of people. There is a toll road system under construction that will link Mexico - one of the most corrupt leaderships on earth - with the US and Canada. There are amendments in effect, altering the basic constitutional rights of this land meaning Americans have less free speech.

I ask you Sir: who is the real enemy - the people who can and have easily entered this country, or the one's who disagree with it in the name of national security, community cohesion..or even on environmental terms? Uncle Sam is being raped and pillaged from within..and our troops are dying thousands of miles away looking for weapons that could not be found.

Remember the Alamo. Also remember the people Mr. Bush has pissed off..not only from overseas but on a domestic front. Most of those poeple are opposed to his policies - he still goes ahead regardless. Maybe Mr. Bush and his relationship with private, global question should be next on your list of topics to discuss?

Thanks for your time. Have a nice day.


What a fuckin shame. Absolute fuckin shame.
Anonymous | 05.05.07 - 1:01 am | #

Dude give it up, our sons and daughters are not there because of 10 year old CIA propaganda tapes. We are there babysitting Cheney's oil. Have you been asleep for 3 years?
http://www.ccmep.org/ 2003_articl...in_colorado.htm

The combination of the disappearing middle class and the greatly increasing class system we are becoming along with unchecked police power and FEMA concentration camps popping up all over should scare every American. That is what happened in 1920's Germany.
Here is something to fear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dJBxdRIQx7Y
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/fo...forum/ fema.html
http://www.olywip.org/wip/node/553
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...i? ArtNum=185359
http:// www.associatedcontent.com...nd_suffers.html
http://www.democracynow.org/arti...7/05/02/ 1427204


I'd even vote them into office.
Mass Radiation | 05.05.07 - 1:00 am | #

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We did


NOT BOMB IRAN, BLAME IRAN

Looks like Bush has given up on Iraq and he is now going to blame Iran. After blaming bad intelligence, generals, dems, Iraqi's, old Saddam videos, world complicity, US complicity, now it is Iran. Wow, still can't accept one piece of responsibility. What a chimp.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Re...ck_in_0504.html
Michael Roston
Published: Friday May 4, 2007
A top journalist tracking the dispute between Iran and the international community over its nuclear program has suggested in an interview published at the Harpers' website that an uptick in tensions between the US and Iran could emerge this fall.

"If by September the 'surge' is deemed to be ineffective, the Bush Administration may seek to blame Iran for its continuing difficulties," Laura Rozen, a top correspondent for the American Prospect and the Washington Monthly, told Harpers' Ken Silverstein.


btw, that was his fatwa.. You know declaration of war. You can find it anywhere. Instead of wasting your time reading declassified documents read something of value that has been on the public record for almost 10 years.

I wouldnt be surprised if hes dead and thats why you dont hear from him.

And he is like the boogyman you got a problem with that. Nothing to be scared of just something that needed confrontation legitamately.

The difference for you is you are scared of the govt and Jones tells you to check under your bed for the spooks.
Thats a shame. You dont know how good you have it.

What a fuckin shame. Absolute fuckin shame.


Activists want chimp declared a 'person' -

VIENNA, Austria - In some ways, Hiasl is like any other Viennese: He indulges a weakness for pastry, likes to paint and enjoys chilling out watching TV. But he doesn't care for coffee, and he isn't actually a person — at least not yet.

In a case that could set a global legal precedent for granting basic rights to apes, animal rights advocates are seeking to get the 26-year-old male chimpanzee legally declared a "person."

Hiasl's supporters argue he needs that status to become a legal entity that can receive donations and get a guardian to look out for his interests.

"Our main argument is that Hiasl is a person and has basic legal rights," said Eberhart Theuer, a lawyer leading the challenge on behalf of the Association Against Animal Factories, a Vienna animal rights group.

"We mean the right to life, the right to not be tortured, the right to freedom under certain conditions," Theuer said.

"We're not talking about the right to vote here."

I'm all for that. Give the chimpanzees their rights! I'd even vote them into office.


Is that the best you can come up with? Northwoods was 1961 propaganda. And now we have two different presidents involved with conspiracies to blow up the WTC.

The cards are tumblin. No wonder theres not too many true believers left. Its becomes pathalogical after a point.

Dude you really need help. It was 98, he had beef and he followed through.

Btw this caveman is rich beyond your wildest dreams. Too bad your racist rhetoric shines through.

The WTC fell because cavemen learned to fly. WE should have been able to stop them.
WE failed. Period.

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Uh, this is 2001 propaganda. He hasn't said a word in a long time. I am more scared of our gov than a guy in a cave. Kinda like the boogyman.


TSA loses hard drive with personal info -
In a statement released Friday night, the agency said the external — or portable — hard drive contained information on employees who worked for the Homeland Security agency from January 2002 until August 2005.

"It's seems like there's a problem with security inside Homeland Security and that makes no sense," said James Slade, a TSA screener and the executive vice president of the National Treasury Employees Union chapter at John F. Kennedy International Airport. "That's scary. That's my identity. And now who has a hold of it? So many things go on in your mind."

Hahaha


Ok, I didn't mean to throw a monkey wrench at you. I just thought you were taking that stuff way too serious.
Mass Radiation | 05.05.07 - 12:38 am | #

Well other people probably did too, so thanks for bringing it up. I just thought I came off a little more rationall, guess that was just my own reality.
Call me on it any time.


Osama bin Laden told ABC In a 1998 interview
Really, what reallyhappened | 05.05.07 - 12:33 am | #

Uh, this is 2001 propaganda. He hasn't said a word in a long time. I am more scared of our gov than a guy in a cave. Kinda like the boogyman.


The other stuff is what I found fascinating (kind of set off a lot of light bulbs and I wanted to share it). But it is just some dude scribbling on paper, if it don't work for ya, no prob.
sane | 05.04.07 - 11:59 pm | #

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Ok, I didn't mean to throw a monkey wrench at you. I just thought you were taking that stuff way too serious.

I'm not spamming people - that post below showed up again and I don't know why.


"We have seen in the last decade the decline of the American government and the weakness of the American soldier who is ready to wage Cold Wars and unprepared to fight long wars. This was proven in Beirut when the Marines fled after two explosions. It also proves they can run in less than 24 hours, and this was also repeated in Somalia. We are ready for all occasions. We rely on Allah."

Osama bin Laden told ABC In a 1998 interview


Have you read the book I recommended? You will find many answers there. No one here is talking about aliens but you.
sane | 05.04.07 - 10:18 pm | #

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I don't know if the one you were responding to did, but I have read William Lyne's book. You've been talking about it for quite some time as if were capable of enlightening and lifting everyone who reads it up to a higher plane. His claims of the meters attached to the sides of our homes "creating" power and lowering our utility bills is either ludicrous OR every single American should be installing their own meter to compair their usage to what is being recorded and thus being billed by the power companies to bring this national rip off to light. If he is correct, these meters generate their own power (along with all the electric poles along the streets by the way) and their purpose is to increase the recorded amount of energy consumed at our homes so that we will pay more in utility bills. He once again talks about this in the video: http://video.google.com/ videopla...194771837860523
In the book there are claims of giving the typical garage shop worker all the knowledge for building a flying saucer at home...unfortunately, the book doesn't deliver on promises but rather is a run-on of irrelevent semi-techno babble and early 20th century schematics. Also notice in the video, he prefers terms such as "their theory" and lots of "uhs and ums" and in comparison to the book, he speaks like an ametuer. I would pose this question if I were to meet him: "where's your flying saucer?" to which he would no doubt respond: "the government took it away from me". Basically, that's why he's selling books folks. If the NAZIs had flying saucers, why didn't they use them? Why was Hitler so adament on having dive bomber capability to the demise of the Luftwaffe? Why all that effort in rockets? If anyone is truly enlightened by what they read in his book or see/hear in his videos, please explain it to the rest of us or at least me because I don't get it. Maybe it's because I've come to the conclusion that you can't trust anyone who still wears a bolo tie?


Hows this for a prediction

In his second declaration of jihad, issued in 1998, bin Laden again stressed that his main grievance was America's "occupation" of Saudi Arabia. "For more than seven years, the United States is occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of its territories, Arabia, plundering its riches, overwhelming its rulers, humiliating its people, threatening its neighbors, and using its bases in the peninsula as a spearhead to fight against the neighboring Islamic peoples [a reference to Iraq]," he wrote. Shortly afterward, in an interview with ABC News, he declared that his battle would "inevitably move" to "American soil."

The Washington Post's Michael Dobbs summed up bin Laden's position nicely in a detailed analysis of the Saudi's writings and speeches. "In Mr. bin Laden's war," wrote Dobbs on September 21, "the goal of expelling the 'Judeo-Christian enemy' from the Holy Lands of Islam should be met first on the Arabian Peninsula. His next priority is Iraq, which for 500 years was the seat of the most powerful Islamic state, or caliphate. A distant third on this agenda is Palestine."


Besides, look how upfront we are about regime chnges lately.
Anonymous | 05.05.07 - 12:13 am | #

Northwoods had nothing to do with regime change. It had to do with expanding domestic clandestine power using regime change as an excuse. That is why Kennedy rejected it, but Clinton and W approved it, duh.


cheany, hes' just evil.
assssff | 05.05.07 - 12:07 am | #

I am at a loss in finding anything wrong with that last statement whatsoever.


President Bush knew that the first plane to hit the WTC towers was hijacked, and that there were multiple planes hijacked, before he arrived at Booker Elementary School on the morning of 911, he was in the limo when the FAA informed the Secret Service.

"Within minutes after the first aircraft hit the World Trade Center, the FAA immediately established several phone bridges that included FAA field facilities, the FAA command center, FAA headquarters, DOD, the Secret Service and other government agencies."
9/11Commision Testimony

Commissioner Ben-Veniste reads the FAA testimony of Jane Garvey into the 9/11 Commission record, during an interview with retired General Canavan. This is a key finding of the commission, it shows that there still is discrepancy between NORAD and FAA timelines, and that President Bush likely knew that the first plane that hit the WTC was known to be hijacked. (Key part of this transcript in bold below) President Bush claims he did not know the first plane that hit the tower was hijacked.
http://www.freedomisforeverybody...g/ Bush_Knew.php
Source of this excerpt of the 9/11 commission transcript
http://www.9-11commission.gov/ ar...3.htm#panel_one


Northwoods was an embarrasment and patently rejected by Kennedy's staff and the civilian board.

It wasnt implemented then and to use it to back up an assertion for now is absurd. Did you need a 40 year old declassified military document to tell you they think of all sorts of crazy things.

You would probably crap yourself if you knew what contingency plans are on the books.

They thought about killing john glen. Shit. Imagine what his face looked like when he reas that. haha. Point is there are checks and balances all throughout the system and believe it or not the existence of this document does nothing to prove an association. It was a bad idea then and now and no one wanted to oust Castro more than we did at that time.

Besides, look how upfront we are about regime chnges lately.


i just watched the new loose change trailer.
the rap music was kinda wack.


bush couldn't have found out about the 1st plane before leaving the hotel, and in the limo, at at the school.
assssff | 05.04.07 - 11:58 pm | #

he definitely knew before walking in that school and I don't know if that matters. The actions after the second plane led to impeachable offenses.
sane | 05.05.07 - 12:01 am | #

yea sure maybe...
we don't know what happened.
his actions are impeachabel for just lying about wmds.
but... my point is when alex says "proof that bush is lying #1, and proof that bush is lying #2 #3 etc.." and all the proofs contradict one another then they're not proof at all. however, it truly is bizzare.
maybe he did only find out when he went into the building. does it really make a difference?
it's clear like you said, that he did find out about something on camera, and he should have left then.... but he looks in that scene either guilty or scared. he could be evil or just stupid. it is really hard to tell.
cheany, hes' just evil.


• Bushes to host state dinner for Queen Elizabeth
• Animal activists want chimp declared a 'person'

These are the current headlines from Yahoo homepage. No kidding.
kells | 05.05.07 - 12:01 am | #

ahahhahaaa
holy crap!


• Bushes to host state dinner for Queen Elizabeth
• Animal activists want chimp declared a 'person'

These are the current headlines from Yahoo homepage. No kidding.


bush couldn't have found out about the 1st plane before leaving the hotel, and in the limo, at at the school.
assssff | 05.04.07 - 11:58 pm | #

he definitely knew before walking in that school and I don't know if that matters. The actions after the second plane led to impeachable offenses.


asssff:Your just a trouble maker to this site,you dont know any thing and you dont want to learn anything.You are arab or jew,you hate Jesus Christ,common admit it,common you want to say that so bad,common boy say it.Satan wants you to say it,common,Sane,dont cast your pearls befor swine said Jesus,kick the dust of your shoes and leave his satanic tent as bible told us to do.
Endtimetruther | Homepage | 05.04.07 - 11:45 pm | #

no my son, i don't hate you, i pitty you.


Mass Radiation | 05.04.07 - 11:50 pm | #

Oh dude, I chucked the drawings in the garbage can, shit. I try not to read any book like the bible. I am mostly interested in the way secret societies work and the deceptions and the cover ups and the polarizing of arguments. The frickin flying saucers, geez I didn't care about that crap, give that to a physicist to figure out. I am definitely not qualified.

The other stuff is what I found fascinating (kind of set off a lot of light bulbs and I wanted to share it). But it is just some dude scribbling on paper, if it don't work for ya, no prob.


OUR EXALTED PRESIDENT BUSH HAS A FUN FILLED MORNING:
“Mr. Bush arrived at the school, just before 9 am, expecting to be met by its motherly principal, Gwen Rigell. Instead he was pulled sharply aside by the familiar, bulky figure of 51-year-old Karl Rove, a veteran political fixer and trusted aide of both Mr. Bush and his father, George Sr. Mr. Rove, a fellow Texan with an expansive manner and a colorful turn of phrase, told the President that a large commercial airliner (American Flight 11) had crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Centre . Mr. Bush clenched his teeth, lowered his bottom lip and said something inaudible. Then he went into the school.” William Langley, “Revealed: What Really Went on During Bush’s ‘Missing Hours,’” The Telegraph, December 16, 2001.

this is my point.. or question,

from: