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Dachau C. Camp Germany
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... to the german prison camps "nazi concentration camps"
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Dachau Concentration Camp - Tribute 10 min - Apr 18, 2007 - (2 ratings) The following is a video summary of the Dachau Concentration Camp used by the ...
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Against The Odds trailer 2 min - Sep 4, 2006 - (2 ratings)... Resistance Movement in Nazi Concentration Camps 45 mins, Documentary, Spring ...
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Breendonk Concentration Camp Raw Footage 5 min - Nov 9, 2006 - (7 ratings) Video taken at Breendonk Concentration camp outside of Brussels, Belgium. ...
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NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP Seq 2 - Ohrdruf 6 min - Apr 20, 2007 NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP (Allied Docufilm '45)
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Kaufering Concentraion Camps in area of Landsberg Germany - Dach... 21 min - Feb 9, 2007 - (4 ratings) ... among the worst of all Nazi Concentration camps. At the main Dachau camp, ...
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35mm Stock Footage of London & German Prison Camp, Nazi 51 min - Nov 9, 2005 - (6 ratings) ... forest - Nazis. Steamtrain over bridge probably bringing in prisoners for concentration ...
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IBM service in nazi concentration-camps! 6 min - May 14, 2007 - (1 rating) ... through financial constructions and IBM systems were installed in the nazi ...
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World War II: Liberation of Concentration Camps (Britannica) 58 sec - Mar 23, 2007 - (2 ratings) ... Concentration Camp -
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Too cruel for YouTube? (2of2) 5 min - Nov 30, 2006 - (73 ratings) ... of british footage of Nazi concentration camps had been deleted by YouTube ...
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123.Westerbork I 2 min - Jan 30, 2007 ... for transport to other Nazi concentration camps. In 1939, the Dutch government ...
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Evidence of the Holocaust Part 1 - Nazi Concentration Camps 16 min - Mar 24, 2007 - (161 ratings) ... of the Holocaust - The Nazi Concentration Camps; This film contains extremely ...
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Evidence of the Holocaust Part 3 - Nazi Concentration Camps 11 min - Mar 24, 2007 - (126 ratings) ... of the Holocaust - The Nazi Concentration Camps; This film contains extremely ...
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Nazi Concentration Camps (Nuremberg Trial Film) WARNING: GRAP... 59 min - Aug 16, 2006 - (127 ratings) The file entitled "Nazi Concentration Camps" was entered as evidence at the ...
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Evidence of the Holocaust Part 2 - Nazi Concentration Camps 15 min - Mar 24, 2007 - (48 ratings) ... of the Holocaust - The Nazi Concentration Camps; This film contains extremely ...
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Nazi Concentration Camps 1/7 10 min - Mar 26, 2007 - (8 ratings) Concentration Camps 1/7 who controls the media ??
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Nazi Concentration Camps 3/7 10 min - May 14, 2007 - (2 ratings) Nazi Concentration Camps 3/7
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Nazi Concentration Camps 2/7 10 min - May 14, 2007 - (1 rating) Nazi Concentration Camps 2/7
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More Evidence of the Holocaust - Nazi Concentration Camps 11 min - May 25, 2007 ... from the film, "silence" by orly yadin & sylvie bringas.11-minute animated documentary film about a little girl holocaust survivor and her learned and ...
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NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP Seq 1 - Leipzig/Penig 8 min - Apr 19, 2007 NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP (Allied Docufilm '45)
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NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP Seq 2 - Ohrdruf 6 min - Apr 20, 2007 NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP (Allied Docufilm '45)
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IBM service in nazi concentration-camps! 6 min - May 14, 2007 - (1 rating) ... through financial constructions and IBM systems were installed in the nazi ...
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097.Auschwitz.the camp was build by Rudolf Höss,April 1940 2 min - Feb 1, 2007 ... journeyed through Poland to take up the job of Commandant of a new Nazi concentration ...
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NEW WORLD ORDER - FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERI... 7 min - Mar 20, 2007 - (47 ratings) ... REALITYNETWORK FOR MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS. This is footage of a FEMA run concentration ...
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FEMA camp chicago 34 sec - Oct 21, 2006 - (5 ratings) Chicago FEMA detention center that supposedly does not exist, but here's proof!
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FEMA fun CAMP 7 min - Apr 16, 2006 - (61 ratings) ... video of the Beech Grove FEMA camp. It picks up at the watch tower where the ...
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Fema Camp Footage 7 min - May 30, 2007 Fema Camp Footage (Concentrations Camps In Usa - Must See)
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FEMA Concentration Camp for Families in Taylor, Texas 20 min - Jan 3, 2007 - (137 ratings) FEMA Concentration Camp for Families in Taylor, Texas. (Better res coming ...
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FEMA Concentration Camp for Families in Taylor, Texas 20 min - Jan 4, 2007 - (73 ratings) FEMA Concentration Camp for Families in Taylor, Texas- administered by a mix ...
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FEMA fun CAMP 7 min - Apr 17, 2006 ... video of the Beech Grove FEMA camp. It picks up at the watch tower where the ...
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Orwellian dream 10 sec. ago... 3 min - Apr 23, 2007 - (1 rating) ... bragging about putting me in a FEMA camp ,and Danny Bonaduce (I said it was ...
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Unhidden Agendas: Off To Camp FEMA 3 min - Nov 7, 2006 - (62 ratings) ... and it only wants to take away your rights so it can hug you closer...and FEMA ...
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Fema Underground 3 min - Oct 16, 2006 - (20 ratings) A documentary included this FEMA interview that put its director on the HOT ...
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Unhidden Agendas: Off To Camp FEMA 3 min - Dec 31, 2006 - (16 ratings) ... and it only wants to take away your rights so it can hug you closer...and FEMA ...
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Detention Centre, concentration camp? 8 min - Feb 8, 2007 - (18 ratings) ... flu scam? Round up those who might be troublemakers in preperation for nazi- ...
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NEW WORLD ORDER - FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERI... 7 min - Mar 20, 2007 - (47 ratings) ... FOR MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS. This is footage of a FEMA run concentration camp ...
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NEW WORLD ORDER - GIUFFRIDA, BUSH SR, RONALD REAGON, ... 3 min - Mar 20, 2007 - (14 ratings) ... clip, you will see congressional questioning to answer questions about FEMA ...
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FEMA Camp with Better Quality Video 7min - Sep 7, 2006 - (511 ratings) ... pressure and gas mixtures. It seems that this is indeed a death camp, for ...
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FEMA Camp footage 7 min - Jan 28, 2006 - (286 ratings) ... taken footage of a FEMA concentration camp under construction. Also featuring ...
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Assault on Beech Grove 14 min - Apr 18, 2006 - (33 ratings) This has the original FEMA Beech Grove video along with my video update of ...
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Beach Grove Indiana FEMA Camp Footage (Rex 84) 7 min - Oct 21, 2006 - (15 ratings) Footage of a FEMA concentration camp in the USA as described in Rex 84. ...
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FEMA Camp Footage (Concentrations Camps in USA) 7 min - Apr 23, 2006 - (176 ratings) Footage of a FEMA camp in the US. This is available on Google video too, but ...
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Beech Grove Indiana FEMA Camp - April 5 2006 7 min - Apr 8, 2006 - (40 ratings) ... Lantern Member "Eric" of aleged FEMA Camp at Beech Grove Indiana, Amtrak Facility. ...
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FEMA CAMP 7 min - Oct 23, 2006 - (12 ratings) FEMA concentration CAMP
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Re: Beech Grove Indiana FEMA Camp - April 5 2006 4 min - Sep 23, 2006 - (8 ratings) ... same place, different video note - much better clip at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h?v=0p-
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We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84. The Cheney/Bush administration has a plan which would accommodate the detention of large numbers of American citizens during times of emergency. The plan is called REX 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984. Through Rex-84 an undisclosed number of concentration camps were set in operation throughout the United States, for internment of dissidents and others potentially harmful to the state. The Rex 84 Program was originally established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987
" These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached." And there you have it ~ the real purpose of FEMA is to not only protect the government but to be its principal vehicle for martial law.This is why FEMA could not respond immediately to the Hurricane Katrina disaster ~ humanitarian efforts were no longer part of its job description under the Department of Homeland Security. It appears Hurricane Katrina also provided FEMA with an excuse to “dry run” its unconstitutional powers in New Orleans, rounding up “refugees” (now called “evacuees”
and “relocating” them in various camps. “Some evacuees are being treated as ‘internees’ by FEMA,” writes former NSA employee Wayne Madsen. “Reports continue to come into WMR that evacuees from New Orleans and Acadiana [the traditional twenty-two parish Cajun homeland] who have been scattered across the United States are being treated as ‘internees’ and not dislocated American citizens from a catastrophe" We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84.
Be forewarned ~ the Cheney/Bush administration will stop at nothing to preserve their power and their ongoing neocon mis-adventure and they have currently proposed having executive control over all the states National Guard troops in a national emergency. Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa, called the proposal " one step away from a complete takeover of the National Guard, the end of the Guard as a dual-function force that can respond to both state and national needs."The provision was tucked into the House version of the defense bill without notice to the states, something Vilsack said he resented as much as the proposal itself.Under the provision, the president would have authority to take control of the Guard in case of " a serious natural or manmade disaster, accident or catastrophe" in the United States.Do remember, to the Cheney/Bush administration ~ the Mob at the Gates that they truly fear is not terrorists but, instead, the people demanding the truth.
U.S. CONCENTRATION CAMPS
FEMA AND THE REX 84 PROGRAM
BREAKING HURRICANE KATRINA CONSPIRACY STORY!
September 5, 2005:
"I just got back from a FEMA Detainment Camp"
There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.
The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.
Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.
The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.
A person named Terry Kings wrote an article on his discoveries of camps located in southern California. His findings are as follows:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pa...ages/
camps.html
Over the last couple months several of us have investigated three soon-to-be prison camps in the Southern California area. We had heard about these sites and wanted to see them for ourselves. The first one we observed was in Palmdale, California. It is not operating as a prison at the moment but is masquerading as part of a water facility. Now why would there be a facility of this nature out in the middle of nowhere with absolutely no prisoners? The fences that run for miles around this large facility all point inward, and there are large mounds of dirt and dry moat surrounding the central area so the inside area is not visible from the road. There are 3 large loading docks facing the entrance that can be observed from the road. What are these massive docks going to be loading? We observed white vans patrolling the area and one came out and greeted us with a friendly wave and followed us until we had driven safely beyond the area. What would have happened had we decided to enter the open gate or ask questions? This facility is across the street from the Palmdale Water Department. The area around the Water Department has fences pointing outward, to keep people out of this dangerous area so as not to drown. Yet, across the street, the fences all point inward. Why? To keep people in? What people? Who are going to be it's occupants?
There are also signs posted every 50 feet stating: State of California Trespassing Loitering Forbidden By Law Section 555 California Penal Code.
The sign at the entrance says: Pearblossom Operations and Maintenance Subcenter Receiving Department, 34534 116th Street East. There is also a guard shack located at the entrance.
We didn't venture into this facility, but did circle around it to see if there was anything else visible from the road. We saw miles of fences with the top points all directed inward. There is a railroad track that runs next to the perimeter of this fenced area. The loading docks are large enough to hold railroad cars. [lrec]
I wonder what they are planning for this facility? They could easily fit 100,000 people in this area. And who would the occupants be?
Another site is located in Brand Park in Glendale. There are newly constructed fences (all outfitted with new wiring that point inward). The fences surround a dry reservoir. There are also new buildings situated in the area. We questioned the idea that there were four armed military personnel walking the park. Since when does a public park need armed guards?
A third site visited was in the San Fernando Valley, adjacent to the Water District. Again, the area around the actual Water District had fences logically pointing out (to keep people out of the dangerous area). And the rest of the adjacent area which went on for several miles was ringed with fences and barbed wire facing inward (to keep what or who in?) Also, interesting was the fact that the addition to the tops of the fences were fairly new as to not even contain any sign of rust on them. Within the grounds was a huge building that the guard said was a training range for policemen. There were newly constructed roads, new gray military looking buildings, and a landing strip. For what? Police cars were constantly patrolling the several mile perimeter of the area.
From the parking lot of the Odyssey Restaurant a better view could be taken of the area that was hidden from site from the highway. There was an area that contained about 100 black boxes that looked like railroad cars. We had heard that loads of railroad cars have been manufactured in Oregon outfitted with shackles. Would these be of that nature? From our position it was hard to determine.
In searching the Internet, I have discovered that there are about 600 of these prison sites around the country (and more literally popping up overnight do they work all night). They are manned, but yet do not contain prisoners. Why do they need all these non-operating prisons? What are they waiting for? We continuously hear that our current prisons are overcrowded and they are releasing prisoners because of this situation. But what about all these facilities? What are they really for? Why are there armed guards yet no one to protect themselves against? And what is going to be the kick-off point to put these facilities into operation?
What would bring about a situation that would call into effect the need for these new prison facilities? A man-made or natural catastrophe? An earthquake, panic due to Y2K, a massive poisoning, a panic of such dimensions to cause nationwide panic?
Once a major disaster occurs (whether it is a real event or manufactured event does not matter) Martial Law is hurriedly put in place and we are all in the hands of the government agencies (FEMA) who thus portray themselves as our protectors. Yet what happens when we question those in authority and how they are taking away all of our freedoms? Will we be the ones detained in these camp sites? And who are they going to round up? Those with guns? Those who ask questions? Those that want to know what's really going on? Does that include any of us? The seekers of truth?
When first coming across this information I was in a state of total denial. How could this be? I believed our country was free, and always felt a sense of comfort in knowing that as long as we didn't hurt others in observing our freedom we were left to ourselves. Ideally we treated everyone with respect and honored their uniqueness and hoped that others did likewise.
It took an intensive year of searching into the hidden politics to discover that we are as free as we believe we are. If we are in denial, we don't see the signs that are staring at us, but keep our minds turned off and busy with all the mundane affairs of daily life.
We just don't care enough to find out the real truth, and settle for the hand-fed stories that come our way over the major media sources television, radio, newspaper, and magazines. But it's too late to turn back to the days of blindfolds and hiding our heads in the sand because the reality is becoming very clear. The time is fast approaching when we will be the ones asking "What happened to our freedom? To our free speech? To our right to protect ourselves and our family? To think as an individual? To express ourselves in whatever way we wish?"
Once we challenge that freedom we find out how free we really are. How many are willing to take up that challenge? Very few indeed, otherwise we wouldn't find ourselves in the situation that we are in at the present time. We wouldn't have let things progress and get out of the hands of the public and into the hands of those that seek to keep us under their control no matter what it takes, and that includes the use of force and detainment for those that ask the wrong questions.
Will asking questions be outlawed next? Several instances have recently been reported where those that were asking questions that came too near the untold truth (the cover up) were removed from the press conferences and from the public's ear. Also, those that wanted to speak to the press were detained and either imprisoned, locked in a psychiatric hospital, slaughtered (through make-believe suicides) or discredited.
Why are we all in denial over these possibilities? Didn't we hear about prison camps in Germany, and even in the United States during World War II? Japanese individuals were rounded up and placed in determent camps during the duration of the War. Where was their freedom?
You don't think it could happen to you? Obviously those rounded up and killed didn't think it could happen to them either. How could decent people have witnessed such atrocities and still said nothing? Are we going to do the same here as they cart off one by one those individuals who are taking a stand for the rights of the citizens as they expose the truth happening behind the scenes? Are we all going to sit there and wonder what happened to this country of ours? Where did we go wrong? How could we let
Bob Zimmerman = 60's cliche and destroy the family "times are changing" Bolshevik."Like Judas of old / You lie and deceive /"He'd know.
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"and was voted by the UN as being the "Great Communicator." What does that mean? Who is that?"I think we have until maybe February 2009 (or a little beyond until maybe the middle of July 2009) until the cashless society is set up. But things will be coming down and all h*** will be falling down around us well up unto and through that time." Many conspiracy people are saying that it will happen before the elections, guaranteeing martial law. Some White Nationalists see it coming sooner than most think too. Economic collapse = excuse to bring in "Amero" is a point that needs mentioning too. It will also be civil/racial war and according to conspiracy people, Govt troops and round-ups (what about our guys in Iraq? PLEASE mutiny and come home! Fight for us!). I think the CTs over-rate the govt legion - good luck with enforcing tyranny when tens of millions of blacks and Mexicans are rioting! Is it true about the FEMA/Halliburton camps or scaremongering? "That's my best guess"Nobody really knows exactly. We can only prepare.
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Gee let us take a look at the evidence so that we can decide for ourselves about the Cheney/Haliburton/Nazi Death Camps where 10 year old boys are raped for years without any recourse to Cheney's dictatorship, shall we???
The truth is out. The “truthiness” is no longer in doubt. There is a minimum of one confirmed concentration camp built on American soil in rural Wyoming. Okay, many have heard the rumors, dismissed them as kook theories, believed by nobody, perpetuated by the ABB (Anybody but Bush) crowd or as a topic of interest for the Art Bell and Jeff Rense radio audience. An undisclosed DHS (Department of Homeland Security) order was placed with DigitalGlobe to photograph the near completed work camp facility only listed by location as “central Wyoming” on the mistakenly published photographs. DHS accidentally placed these photos on a publicly accessible portion of their website on March 28th and they were pulled within one hour. Fortunately Google had cached the images. They too though have been removed in the past 48 hours. The images are not gone forever though. I am employed by a civil rights organization and due to the sensitive nature of these images I wish to remain anonymous. However these images must get out. Someone must be the whistleblower, someone must warn the American public what the Bush Administration has in store for dissidents, political opponents, civil libertarians and “fifth columnists” as defined by the Justice Department.There has been plenty written about this topic and plenty of historical evidence to back up this is a clear and present danger.
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2006 Press Releases (Official KBR Press Release) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: January 24, 2006
KBR AWARDED U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY CONTINGENCY SUPPORT PROJECT FOR EMERGENCY SUPPORT SERVICES
ARLINGTON, Virginia – KBR announced today that its Government and Infrastructure division has been awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contract to support the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facilities in the event of an emergency. KBR is the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton (NYSE:HAL). With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005. “We are especially gratified to be awarded this contract because it builds on our extremely strong track record in the arena of emergency operations support,” said Bruce Stanski, executive vice president, KBR Government and Infrastructure. “We look forward to continuing the good work we have been doing to support our customer whenever and wherever we are needed.” The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs. The contingency support contract provides for planning and, if required, initiation of specific engineering, construction and logistics support tasks to establish, operate and maintain one or more expansion facilities. Halliburton Press Release
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Concentration Camps Being Built on US Soil? Published by the Daily Kos Daily Kos Diary Entry
Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for U.S. citizens he deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him from merely being a political embarrassment to being a constitutional menace. Ashcroft's plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, would allow him to order the indefinite incarceration of U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their constitutional rights and access to the courts by declaring them enemy combatants. Truthout.org
A History of Executive Orders Progressively Allowing the Enslavement and Execution of All Americans
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and ?aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...
National Security Act of 1947 allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities. 1950 Defense Production Act gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy. Act of August 29, 1916 authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency. International Emergency Economic Powers Actenables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.
Bob Zimmerman = 60's cliche and destroy the family "times are changing" Bolshevik.
"Like Judas of old / You lie and deceive /"
He'd know.
"and was voted by the UN as being the "Great Communicator."
What does that mean? Who is that?
"I think we have until maybe February 2009 (or a little beyond until maybe the middle of July 2009) until the cashless society is set up. But things will be coming down and all h*** will be falling down around us well up unto and through that time."
Many conspiracy people are saying that it will happen before the elections, guaranteeing martial law. Some White Nationalists see it coming sooner than most think too. Economic collapse = excuse to bring in "Amero" is a point that needs mentioning too. It will also be civil/racial war and according to conspiracy people, Govt troops and round-ups (what about our guys in Iraq? PLEASE mutiny and come home! Fight for us!). I think the CTs over-rate the govt legion - good luck with enforcing tyranny when tens of millions of blacks and Mexicans are rioting! Is it true about the FEMA/Halliburton camps or scaremongering?
"That's my best guess"
Nobody really knows exactly. We can only prepare.
TO THE PEOPLE WHO CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION:HOW MUCH S##T ARE WE IN AND HOW LONG DO WE HAVE UNTIL ANTICHRIST COMES?
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Dear Alex: The Anti-Christ is here already. He resides in America and is calling all the shots from behind the scenes. He is very much a LIAR.... but is very cunning and smart, and was voted by the UN as being the "Great Communicator." If you look intently into his face, you can see his horns that come across from the top of his ears and over the top of his brows (under his skin).
I think we have until maybe February 2009 (or a little beyond until maybe the middle of July 2009) until the cashless society is set up. But things will be coming down and all h*** will be falling down around us well up unto and through that time.
That's my best guess.
Mike Makowski. Hell yeah! Let's throw down some lines and whiskey. Don't think I want to see the "tools" though. (smile)
MASTERS OF WAR - BOB DYLAN - 1963
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...h?
v=g0ELgFGd2fs
Come you masters of war / You that build all the guns / You that build the death planes / You that build the big bombs / You that hide behind walls / You that hide behind desks / I just want you to know / I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin' / But build to destroy / You play with my world / Like it's your little toy / You put a gun in my hand / And you hide from my eyes / And you turn and run farther / When the fast bullets fly
Like Judas of old / You lie and deceive / A world war can be won / You want me to believe / But I see through your eyes / And I see through your brain / Like I see through the water / That runs down my drain
You fasten the triggers / For the others to fire / Then you set back and watch / When the death count gets higher / You hide in your mansion / As young people's blood / Flows out of their bodies / And is buried in the mud
You've thrown the worst fear / That can ever be hurled / Fear to bring children / Into the world / For threatening my baby / Unborn and unnamed / You ain't worth the blood / That runs in your veins
How much do I know / To talk out of turn / You might say that I'm young / You might say I'm unlearned / But there's one thing I know / Though I'm younger than you / Even Jesus would never / Forgive what you do
Let me ask you one question / Is your money that good / Will it buy you forgiveness /Do you think that it could / I think you will find / When your death takes its toll / All the money you made / Will never buy back your soul
And I hope that you die / And your death'll come soon / I will follow your casket / In the pale afternoon / And I'll watch while you're lowered / Down to your deathbed / And I'll stand o'er your grave / 'Til I'm sure that you're dead
Gabe can work my tool
shop
he can hold my wrench
set
and as for the booze
God does not like a quitter
you back off the bottle
pretty soon your takin it in the bung hole
so keep up the good work my son
smokin, drinkin, boozin, snortin
i wanna party with you
im gunna taze you gabo
There are thousands of deaths caused by tasers every year, and the dumb cops that use them.
MiscroCHIPS, Inc.., of Bedford, Massacusetts,
Apologies for the spelling error.
"Do you sometimes forget to take your pills? MiscroCHIPS, Inc.., of BEford, Massacusetts, has developed a device that can be preloaded with up to 100 doses of medicine, implanted in the body and programmed to administer the drug via wireless signals. The new system has been designed primarily to help deliver medicines that are less effective when taken orally. It has been successful in preliminary tests with dogs."
Source: Reader's Digest, March 2007 issue.
"dangerous, combative, or high-risk subjects"
- Yeah, like a kid that was murdered by one in Kansas.
" TASER(R) technology is currently in testing or deployment at over 3,500 law enforcement and correctional agencies in the U.S. and Canada."
- Hey Troy..this is the kind of society your ignorance is creating. Blood on your hands, not ours.
REF: Tasor incident in Kansas, as mentioned on thr AJ Show 05.16.07. Some more background information..
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TASER International, Inc. Announces Two Additional Orders From the Kansas City Police Department and Charleston County Sheriff's Office
SCOTTSDALE, Ariz., Dec. 24 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TASER International,
Inc. (Nasdaq: TASR; TASRW), a market leader in advanced less-lethal weapons,
today announced that the Kansas City Police Department ordered over
300 TASER X26 conducted energy weapons and accessories in an order valued at
over $245,000. In addition, the company received an order for over 300 TASER
X26 conducted energy weapons and accessories from the Charleston County
Sheriff's Office, South Carolina, in an order valued at over $280,000.
..
About TASER International, Inc.
TASER International, Inc. provides advanced less-lethal weapons for use in
the law enforcement, private security, and personal defense markets. Its
flagship ADVANCED TASER(R) M26 product uses proprietary technology to
incapacitate dangerous, combative, or high-risk subjects that may be
impervious to other less-lethal means. Its latest product, the TASER X26 is
60% smaller and lighter than the ADVANCED TASER M26 and reduces injury rates
to suspects and officers, thereby lowering liability risk and improving
officer safety. TASER(R) technology is currently in testing or deployment at
over 3,500 law enforcement and correctional agencies in the U.S. and Canada.
For more information go to http://www.TASER.com .
Source: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bi...02080719&
EDATE=
Hi fellas. Yeah, your right JRC. I need to back off the boose a little.
Armchair warriors? That was funny. I am just a lonely guy with a pocket full of conspiracies.
Thanx JRC, and rightly said.
Gabriel Allen King. How you feeling, bro? It's easy for some to say "get a job". Many these days can afford to commute to Bangalore and back again for Wallmart wages. Hang in there my Man; you're not the only lonely soul on this third rock from the sun. I'll keep praying for you, my man. I think you got a big heart, but a need to cut back your friendship with John Daniels. Grin.
A job won't warm your heart, will it?
Take Care
James Raymond Caldwell.
Some Ingrate Wrote:
Why is Prison Planet carrying Adverts for the Royal Navy?
Join-up yeah get sent straight to the Gulf, ruin your young life killing Women & Children for Saxxe-Coburg Gotha,[The Queen of Englands real name] the same family who bought us WW1 & WW2,
Way-to-Go Prison Planet, support the Military killing Machine.
What the FUCK is Wrong with you Alex?
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If you'd been listening to the show, you'd know that Alex needs to expand his operation. Since armchair warriors like yourself 'ain't sending in enough money for him to do so, he's got to strike some sort of a compromise in order to provide these extended services to - some ingrates like yourself.
PETITION: Donate to Infowars, and help Alex Jones NOT need to carry such advertising!
Me? I'm maxed out, but I'm not throwing stones at glass houses. I give what I can, which is a heck of a lot less than I get back in return!
"Keep on - straight ahead" PPTV!!!J. Hendrix.
JRC
Kinda like what's the point eh?
AHEM. Conspiracy "fact" bullshit that is!
Michael D. Yeah, you're right. But I don't need a job cause I live in a freakin fantasy world of conspiracy theory bullshit.
Why is Prison Planet carriying Adverts for the Royal Navy?
Join-up yeah get sent straight to the Gulf, ruin your young life killing Women & Children for Saxxe-Coburg Gotha,[The Queen of Englands real name] the same family who bought us WW1 & WW2,
Way-to-Go Prison Planet, support the Military killing Machine.
What the FUCK is Wrong with you Alex?
Here we go...
Michigan GOP Leader Wants Paul Banned from Future Debates
http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/ m...st=newsmichigan
Charlie | 05.16.07 - 9:29 pm | #
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Then it is time to e-mail this misinformed individual and give him a dose of reality.
http://www.migop.org/contact_us.asp
Thanks,
Dennis Kucinich speaks tonight at 8.00 pm Eastern on Paltalk, the cam, voice and text social network. on "The People Speak".
If you want to give him a piece of your mind on the things he's said on the second amendment, here is your chance.
PALTALK: The People Speak: with Dennis Kucinich. It's free to use their software, but be careful - it's full of spyware UNLESS you pay for a major membership.
Gabe
If you were to put half the time and effort into finding a good job that you squander here, you could have a superb job...........
That's funny. I want everyone banned from the debate EXCEPT for Ron Paul! What to do, what to do.........................
Here we go...
Michigan GOP Leader Wants Paul Banned from Future Debates
http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/
m...st=newsmichigan
sorry for the duplicate, having trouble posting
hey guys
If you two live in the same town, why dont you log off and go somewhere and actually TALK?
If you two live in the same town, why dont you log off and go somewhere and actually TALK?
we got the total proof
no more talk
we need to take walkin rockin action
take it to the streets
take it straight to city hall
take it to the hole
gabe?
lets get some taco johns
nukes will happen?
they have been preparing us for it for 60 years
when it happens it doesnt matter where or when
they will spin it into a frenzy of some disposable magnitude
it will be enough for them to criminalize the innocent patriots along with all "suspicious" characters of their chosingit does not matter whether they
perpetrate a full blown false flag here or anywhere
these criminals will spin it into their favor and further their end game scenario
our job is to advance our efforts straight thru the scam, one by one or completely united accross the nation
i am guilty of losing my mind lately but please turn the rage into controlled rage, pinpoint the strikes
i will try to keep my cool better
rally 100% for ron paul
rally a unstoppable support for alex jones and 9/11 truth
fet on the phone tonight
email everyone non stop
blog the action solution every minute
prepare your mind and heart
stay the course of full restoration no matter what happens
they cannot control 200,000,000 people
force them into the light of total scrutiny
drag all of them on the carpet right now
shut down the hannity's
close down the clomes
turn off the oreilly
boycott the mainstream media
make any and every decision that thwarts their plans
do something every second that makes a difference in every life you come into contact with
plant the seeds
water the buds
tend to the growth in all ways you are capable of
write letters
make videos
record the truth
post it continually
flood the zombies with life giving truth
do not ever give up
the debate is a moot point
ron paul is being assassinated by the criminal elite bobble talking heads
See ya later bro. Don't let "them" get you.
Anyway. Coffee is on. I got to get some dinner. Later.
Riley
Then you have the likes of Troy on Alex's show who thinks being a man and being tough is sitting in some biker bar fondling some chick!! What a degenerate society.
Riley
I hear ya. Sad. Very SAD!!
Riley
That is why I totally understand your consumption of shall we say "adult beverages" that was not in moderation. Some times we fall off the wagon. Especially when its rolling right down the crapper.
Riley
I mean, the only place I can get the truth any more is from AJ or the Colbert report! (Eagle screeches!)
We are totally being fucked over, and I am hoping fucking screaming pissed about it! Children are being raped and murdered by these motherfuckers! Now the children have no future without a biochip. They are sending us all to hell.
Can you imagine all these brave and courageous Americans ready to fight and die foreign and abroad who will readily line up at the drop of a hat to accept biometrics for God's sake?? Probably all the while waving 'Ol Glory and singing the star spangled banner!!
Riley
Your basically exactly right. That is the same intel I have on it. Now we got St John Hunt going public about his fathers involvement in JFK, and the mainstream media won't even touch it!!! I mean, FUCK! Even Bruce Willis knows about it for Gods sake!
More proof that our government and media is a pack of liars and wolves in sheeps clothing. I feel physically ill.
Right Gabe. I do laugh at some of his jokes. But when it comes to what we are about to witness in the "very" near future, it is not a joking matter. That is why I left the comments at his very own "Glennate". Go check it sometime. Like I said, if you post, it will probably stick around for a good while. But I have 90+ hits or so. Somebody will get the truth like it or not.
Riley
Riley. I feel ya bro. I watched some Glen Beck yesterday. That guy is a scary. I don't trust him at all. I just got that weird feeling about him. Trust me- he is a NWO agent. What a piece of shit! I mean, are you honestly gonna tell me that these are the best people we can find to host shows? Gimme a break!
Like I said. WWIII most likely before Bush is out. I am "utterly and completely" convinced of this. Too many converging forces. Just that simple. Plus the people who openly call themselves pagans have a time table for new era based on 2012. Most likely this will be the intersection of the Great Tribulation about which the Bible speaks. I am not getting chipped. Sorry NWO.
Riley
Another one that makes me sick is Glenn Beck. He seems to have a pretty wide audience in some parts because he mixes humor in with the political analysis. He calls his show a mixture of "humor and enlightenment". Today he spends a better part of his broadcast poking fun at Ron. Seems the callers were probably screened based on whether they give Ron Paul the thumbs up or down. I am so sick of his bullshit! I made sure to enlighten his forum though. He has a forum called the Glennate (kinda like the Senate or something). It is a slow moving forum, so my comments have been in there for any casual onlooker to view (at least a couple three weeks now). You'd a thought he'd get the truth through that thick skull by now. I guess there is just NO helping some folks no matter how hard you try. This is our dilemna.
Riley
speaking of nukes, that's pretty fucking scary. The nuclear arsenals of the world are all controlled entirely by the NWO degenerate homo pedophile murderers.
The fact is, the NWO cannot allow Ron Paul to become President NO MATTER WHAT. Why? Cause it would destroy their entire timetable for martial law takeover. The mainstream has already announced a cashless society around 2013. Also, the president is the only one who can enact the Executive Orders against us, which have been carefully placed for decades. If Ron became President, their whole conspiracy would crumble overnight. That's why they won't allow it, even if they have to nuke us. And nukes can only be deployed with the codes through the President. Not even the sub Commanders have the codes.
I can only imagine what Bill O'Reilly will say tonight............
If I can find my vomit bag I might watch it for a laugh!
Also it was really weird when the people were cheering and applauding pro torture. Guilliani did do a good job speaking though. He came off strong. I still believe he is full of shit though, and had prior knowledge of 911- which I would have said right there in the debate! Also the mainstream doesn't talk much about how all the firefighters are pissed at mobster Rudy. As usual, Fair and balanced.
Charlie and Tyler. Good articles. And can you really expect anything less from the spinners at FOX? "Fair and Balanced". Ha! They don't really attack the other candidates, just Ron. Kinda suspicious huh? And some people think there is no NWO. Ha!
Theyve changed it, or pulled the story.
The Troy vs Alex debate went well! I like when Troy calls in, that guy is funny! I think we should all pray for Troy though, cause he can't be doin that OK if he is so clueless. Let's pray for Troy and his family- even though he said we should all be kicked out of the country.
When they can get people to laugh at the word conspiracy, then they have succeeded in the brainwashing. If people think there are no conspiracies in the world, well, then I guess they are the easiest ones to trick.
In the movie "Conspiracy Theory", which I loved by the way, Mel's character "Jerry" is portrayed as a lunatic paranoid. Even though he is proven to be right in the end, it still sends the subliminal message that all of us conspiracy buffs are nutjobs. I'm proud to be a conspiracy theorist. At least my opinions are based on facts, truth, context clues, common sense, and evidence.
Hilarious, a small conservative talk radio show in Houston put a poll up this afternoon, and the host (who was filling in for Texas State Sen. Dan Patrick) when asked who will win and who will lose, boastfully claimed "Well I can definitely tell you who one of the losers is...it's Ron Paul"...
Update:
Ron Paul won the website Poll.
http://www.ksevradio.com/index.php
http://www.foxnews.com/story/
0,2...272493,00.html#
Check it out guys, this has to be the single most ridiculous excuse for journalism I have ever seen, bar none.
John Gibson and Michelle Malkin explicitly state that Ron Paul is a 9/11 Truther, and while he has given no such inkling in the debate, he claims that is precisely what he did.
I have no problem with Mr. Paul being a 9/11 Truther, but the fact of the matter is that Ron Paul is being blatantly lied about because he scares the crap out of the establishment media.
Then Troy supports torture, and uses blanket "love it or leave it" mantra on Alex. Troy can't refute any of Alex's proof either. This guy Troy has brainwashed himself!!!
Troy was funny on Alex today. He says we are all crazy. How can he not see the facts? If there were no facts, then we probably wouldn't be saying anything. How can 911 not be an inside job? There is just too much evidence saying it is. I don't get people like Troy. Something is wrong in their mind, their heart, or both.
Sometimes I get kinda crazy. I think it's cause the NWO drives me crazy. People have got to wake up to reality. There are too many "Troys" running around this country. Deliberate stupidity.
Yeah, I'm mostly sobered up now. Feel kinda rough though. How are you Sonja? I hope you are well. See the debate results yet?
are u sober yet?
Gabe, ya kept me up all night dancin...
We should probably tazer pregnant women and torture their fetuses too. That would help our National Security.
You can tell they were tweakin about Ron. He is the only thing they really care about. I will laugh my ass off if Ron wins the Presidency. Then they will probably have to nuke us or something.
Or maybe they will fry Ron's mullet with HAARP or Scalar wave- Or pay some clone to snipe him from a book depository window...........
Yeah, i'm a little hung over this morning. Sorry.
Woke up to "Red Dawn" on AMC. Watched it while I listened to Alex. Apparently, the people favor Ron Paul in the polls.
Hannity and Colmes are rediculous. I'd like to get those two boys dunce caps and make them sit in a corner and suck their thumbs. Who gave these punks a job anyway?
Yah the look on Hannity and Romney's faces are priceless. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. :D
Sean Hannity announces the Ron Paul early lead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...related&
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Nah. More statesman like than lyrical...
FREEDOM FOR SALE
My American Freedom.
Only a couple of hundred years old.... but even more valuable, more precious than gold. But gold it is that has sold my fate, a nefarious exchange at the maximum rate. For freedom it seems some love to hate, since terror has struck at liberty's gate. Yet how can it be, that some would think, that World War Three, we are at the brink? Not for some great cause, we're led to believe. From never ending war - we get NO repreive! They say it's for oil, they say it's for peace, yet no one can promise the terror will cease. Like the terror from governments, not just single men, but even the laws - they multiply by ten! Each new wave of terror, each passage we find, another decree we must "GET THEE BEHIND"! For those who cry "SAFETY" are those who will KILL, until we all learn to embrace their "goodwill"....
- The Unknown Patriot
(I think bears worth repeating. Somebody should write a song with these lyrics....)
Lets see if I am a prophet.
I got a feeling this debate is going to be nullified by WWIII before the end of Bush's term in office. Just about the time Ron is catching steam, they will let the bottom begin to drop out.
somebody is feeling a bit hung over this morning eh?? or maybe this afternoon by the time you read this.
Triple AAA. Make sure he doesn't get the keys to any vehicle during these episodes....We need Gabe around for the fireworks.
They just talked about it on The View with Barbara Walters saying that the biggest moment was Rudy Guiliani's sharp rebuttal of Ron Paul...neo-con Elizabeth jumped in to say how great that was, and that Guiliani looked like the Guiliani we saw after the 9/11 attack...further to say that the debates are interesting because you have candidates like Ron Paul who have no chance just throwing it all out there while you have the great Rudy Guiliani, the superb businessman Mitt Romney talking about the issues....(whatever)
Rosy was mum, said she didn't watch the debate.
Hi I just wanted to say the post I put on last night before I went to bed , was wrong.Rudy just got the most applause.Also even though Mitt won the debate last night.Ron Paul was second and he his first with us.So fox can go faux themselves.
In the words of David's son- Adonijah.
It's cool. Reptillian ?rock.
I'm going to pass out for a few hours. Someone post something useful. I need NRG.
Fuck it. I'm gonna go visit Mike in Sturgis.
There is a reason God leaves people like me to talk to ourselves at night. I hope you are all getting a nice rest. LOL.
I can't get no............
satisfaction.
Mike. You're right. I been drinking all night. How did you know??
I just want someone to talk to. Bout youself? I ain't ashamed. Just want to talk to people. Where did you go dude?
Your first post is so good, it's inspirational Mike. I think I will save it. It's kind of a cult classic like "Army of Darkness". I am almost scared to visit you. You might just kick my ass.........
Course that would be fair. Any way it diced. I am white. So if the other guy surrenders, I stop. And I don't believe in ganging up. Neither do you. Cause you sound like a stand up dude.
I am watching TCM. It is totally cool.
Mike must work for a living, unlike me. At least he had the guts to step up......
Mike. Thank you for educating me as to what a "blog" is. Believe it or not, I had no idea, cause I only bought my computer about 4 months ago. Learn sometin new everyday........
Here is the CCTV propaganda I was referring to:
"CCTV: You Are Being Watched
Tuesday, 15 May 2007
9:00pm - 10:00pm (1 Hour )
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BBC1 (London)
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Jamie Theakston narrates the concluding part of a documentary about surveillance in the UK, revealing how CCTV is being increasingly used by the police and local councils to prevent crime. The film also considers how Britons have become the most watched people on the planet with hardly any protest"
It was split 9/10 in favour of pushing forward the case for more CCTV, and did not even scratch the surface of the moral and ethical implications. The English are being told to know their place and the BBC is doing the dirty work for the Labour Party and the people behind that party.
My opinions are something you won't see sanctioned by this corporation.
Did anyone watch the BBC documentary last night, about CCTV?
It was supposed to show both sides of the coin - what a lie; straight off the bat the program was proclaiming the virtues of having more cameras per head (in the UK), than anywhere else on earth. By showing the other, extreme end of the scale (cameras in swimming pools, camera's that filmed muggers and rapists), the intention was to dupe the sheep into an unsuspecting sense of security.
Folks, we're talking television and the BBC here..not common sense. It's easy to manipulate through this medium.
The residing theme was missed - that cameras were only good 'after' the event. In the case of the London nail bomber..the IRA terrorists..the man that was murdered on the tube by a rampaging gang of ghetto thugs (who had previously got away with scores of stabbing's that night) - the overriding theme is that their victims weren't protected.
And as for deterrent .well, look at it like this: England has some of the worst crime levels in Western Europe - in some respects it is THE worst place to live. In fact England is more violent than what Americans would classify as a violent place to live in the States. This may come as a shock until you step off the plane and see what's going on here. It's pathetic. So - are CCTV cameras there to help, or are they there to point one direction only? You know the answer..they are not lowering crime. you have to have a police force catching criminals and a judiciary that is interested in everything but letting offenders off with 'community' sentencing because they jails are overflowing.
At one point in the program it was shown where a camera was used at a box-junction (like an intersection where you are not allowed to enter the vicinity inside the box unless your exits are clear). Well, you've seen London traffic..it's impossible NOT to have to wait in some of these box junctions. However instead of actually addressing the problem - yep: camera's to film motorists and send them a 'fixed penatly'. Criminals for being forced to used roads the rest of the civilised world laughs at.
Oh, and we have a whole section devoted to how future technologies will allow even more detail..even more cameras.
The biggest, most imperative threat faced by a society such as ours, is that these camera's point one way only. They need to point at the source of the problem, not merely the effect. You can film the effects of a disease like cancer all day - all you're doing is allowing that cancer to fester unabated. My government and the corporate interests running the show are that cancer, and the more we attempt to rectify the problems THEY have created, the more desperate they get because solution and accountability is not an option for them.
It's a Goddamn pity we didn't have camera's in Iraq, fitted to guns. I think the public's view of our so-called protectors would be completely different.
Nice try, BBC. Have a banana. Unfortunately for you, some of us have woken up to what you are upto. Tell Gordon Brown that his NWO propaganda isn't working.
Look out for news in the coming days, of even more abuse of power - this documnetary is being used to set people up, and they're being set up for a very big fall.
mike may be a figmund of yur imagination gabo
but he does believe 9/11 was anside job
To be honest, if jello shots are involved, there is no telling where it will go......
Supposedly we pass through the center of the "Photon Belt" in 2013. Also, we deal with the effects of planet X. Don't know exactly where the spincter plays into all of this.........
I'll ride backseat. But we gotta set some ground rules first. Like touching the monkey.......
whatever you do
please dont end up drunk
wearing a tutu at his tatoo par;or
singing into his microphone for jello shots
Mike. Do you think 911 was an inside job? Comment either way man.
sounds to me he thinks youre a canditate to put on a g string and ride biotch on the back seat of his H.D. sportster
gabo i think mike wants a date
"Blood Moon". That's kinda spooky. Reminds me of Revalations.
I like SD. I am having alot of fun here. Nice weather, friendly people, etc. SD is cool. I think the Sturgis rally comes in summer- I ain't got no hog though. Wish I did. That would kick ass. Bad Company- till the day I die.
I like the "Brown suga in your ass thing." Tango and Cash was one of my favorite movies.
I have been praying to God that someone like you would pipe up. The floor is yours. I am bored with myself.
hi im mike
i like long slow kisses
i like walks on the beach in the blood moon
i like photon rays crammed up my sphinkter
i just got done giving my hog an overhaul
now im gunna overhaul yur ass punk
i got your conspiracy theory HANGIN"
i'll put brown suga in ya ass
Mike Mckowski. Now that shit I like!!
I just thought I was alone here. So what's youre opinion on anything dude. Love to hear it. We will suspend the "Bathroom stall" edition temporarily.
i f#%$^%ck'd guys like you in prison
the drink has made you worthless and weak
mad as hell but a bottle fed coward
saturated and stupid
you dont have the balls to stand up to a real man
Fox news Presidential debate. I don't feel as if i am even worth the glory of debunking it.
I was browsing the internet for election related information
and happened upon your blog
I am offended but enthused, you may come and visit me anytime
I live in sturgis SD @ 1032 harley lane (behind the porn shop)
feel free to bring your drink and your bathroom stall, we will get funky my friend
maybe i will skull f#%%#$ck you sweetcheeks
Your uncle J was tough, but I am tougher. Bathroom stall. My place. final edition.
U only got one cromosome, D for dumb. Come by my house bitch, i kick your ass.
fox screw'd ron paul
we know he won you idiots
msnbc has him out in front of everybody by a landslide
when the whole country votes for him
you wont believe it then either
you'll just give it to who the NWO shoves in your eye hole
Didn't think no one would anny up the nuts to post their real name and address. I dedicate this shit to my friend Vietnam Vet Brian Terry. He knows about conspiracy shit.
Chicken shits. Pussies. I showed you mine. Show me yours. Cowards. Come by my place, we will discuss 911 knuckle to face, chicken shits.
Nice
Sincere
Asshole
the x and y chromasomes were switched out with jack daniels at birth
wudare ya gunna do
forget about it
AAA is NSA. He told me not to tell no one, or he would hurt me. Sorry AAA. Had to tell.
James.
Unemployment is kinda funny. Look at Blockbuster. I don't wanna do nothin I don't really believe in anyway. sort of "Compramised".
Don't give up on life, kick life's ass.
Caldwell is cool. I don't know who he is yet, but I got that feelin.
AAA will now put your shit in it's place. Unless your shit is wired pro.
i forgive you gabo
AAA is my best friend. He lives in Spearfish SD like me. Fuck him too.
I was ranting trying to provoke a fight. Then you came across with reason and un deniable sound logic. Damn you. I'll smash your mullet against the bathroom stall. (Kidding) ( I am crazy)
gabo?
James Raymond Caldwell.
Thank you for being a man of reason. Lead the conversation, I am just a commenter. For now. I like what you said. You understand my crap.
Gabriel Allen King Muttered this:
I don't know who is compelling me to type all this drivel, but I call him god. Sorry--- GOD. I am sort of drunk and lonely. Need other conspiracy theorist losers to confirm my worthlessness. Please someone post, I am, such a vain loser.
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Confirmed.
Two aspirins, and write me in the morning.
Well, you should NOT write such leading statements; ask to be insulted, and someone will do it. Seek it, and it will find you.
Put that bottle down, Gabriel Allen King. I do sincerely hope you can get a job; unemployment is not a laughing matter. For what it's worth, I feel the pain, and will offer my prayers for you. I've been where you are.
God bless you, Gabriel Allen King.
JRC
So no one has any balls? Good. Fuckin jack offs anyway. Post your bullshit, cunts. Just include your bitch name and address.
I believe there are still some men in the USA. Don't be afraid of my talk. Just post. What are you, afraid of me? Post your fucking comment and lets be done with it, chickens. You think you're tough cause you watch WWF or Vietnam Doc's? Dick heads my dad was in Nam over one year. He made sergeant. If you try to talk shit to me I will happily skull fuck your bitches, while you watch, you fucking stupid cock sucking NWO propaganda believers. I gave you my address. Bring your shit on, you fucking pussies. You know you are.
In all of the USA, I dare even one bitch to respond to my challenge. Fuckin cowards. Just goes to show.
Some one will respond though, and I will talk to them like a human being- cause they got courage. I am Joe VS. the Volcano.
That's cause any real shit talkers are milkin off momas tit and dont have any real spunk or ability to challenge a real man like my fuckin self. I dare you chicken shit punks to post your real names and addresses so I can say "hello" at your front door. Fuckin chicken shit bitches wish you could fondle a dick pussified faggots. Go ahead. I dare you. Post your real name and address. Cunts. I am Gabriel A King 635 N12thst. Spearfish SD. What's your excuse, pussy fags?
Drunk n' stupid. Anyone could defeat me right now. Why don't they??? Ha ha ha.
Wind up tight, batters.......
Fuck it. I am off PP forever. you guys are all bad people! ( Jus kiddin)
I pulled a "Queen Elizabeth". Try that. Don't leave!!! Party's just getting started. Let's get funky.
You probably think I am joking but i am totally not!
Please kill my Spock logic with some factual bulllshit. I'm dying here.
Ok. Since I can't get some one else to comment, I will post my own drivel.
The official story holds true cause, (Wait. Seriously- this will take me a minute), OK. It's been over one minute. Still brain dead.
You probably think I am kidding, but I am not. I can't think of one reason to support the official story. NO JOKE.
I'm still sitting here stupified. Someone interject some hard reality, please. All my facts add up to inside job.
Bueller.
Bueller.
Bueller.
Bueller.
Frye.................
For the love of Christ, someone please post! I don't care if it is the most pointless diatribe of drivel known in the history of man.
I am the student. Not the teacher. Please someone post. I like to read the comments of real people. Then again, maybe I am the only idiot here without a job- for now.
Good night sweet princess. I will just post bullshit until someone comes along with some common sense. You are cool. I like your points.
"They" about blacks is the same as "they" about whites.
Cynthia Mckinney kicks ass. I'll bet she is a little racist though. Who cares! She is cool. I am sort of drunk, but i'll bet any black person I can get them on our side. Truth is bulletproof, it speaks for itself.
The cosmos depends upon those like you. Not idiots like me. Why don't you take the authority granted you and kick ass?
I hate to be the spokesman for blacks. But There are many different tribes of blacks. Bambata is the oldest lingo (didn't know if I spelt that right).
Don't care if people talk shit, Black people like me. Maybe cause they know or sense I am a friend.
Anyway, I ain't no nigger. I just like their bullshit. Black people are loved and I don't ever want them to leave 911 truth. Martin Luther was smart too. Cynthia Mckinney is the best. We owe more to black Americans than we could say. They are kick ass and I love them. I am proud to be an American because of them.
ok, if you are not going to play nice and be all in the cosmos, its too late for me.
I leave this tiddbitty for those who catch up in the morning: Hahahaha!
On the front page of HuffPo:
Wolfowitz: "If They F*** With Me Or Shaha, I Have Enough On Them To F*** Them Too"
Look out!
Nite nite
I am not alien that I directly know of, however my mom did pray that God send help- and a friend to Earth. What's your origins??? Ha ha. Get you think.
You know black people since they never believed in govnt they are cathing on to 911 truth fast. Did you hear the lyrics of this song?
You call, we answer. That's how we run things where I come from. We are about to turn this low rent planet into an Andy Griffith truthville. Look out. Do not fear stuff, you'll miss the points. We are not here to spread panic. Get a grip- cool logic. Are you do dos the first aliens? Welcome to the cosmos. Jesus is real- if you look for it.
Did you do it?
3:40. So you are an American!!!
Rambo. Yeah, kick ass. Love ya thanks for not leavin my lonely girl.
Ok 3:43 ready, clik and dance.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UC8Zrtah1AQ
I would love to dance with you. In fact, I would love to do anything other than wallow in my own pointless baseless logic.
Last link I posted, dance with me, against the NWO! Its 3: 39 At 3:40 we dance! You and me in NM ans Spearhead SD.
Second link? I didn't even get the first one! Then again, I was jerkin off to my own pointless drivel......
Hey, dance with me!
The fact is, without you guys, I am just pointless vain crap. You give me a reason to exist. Maybe I am starting to really understand KING. Then again, maybe i am just smokin crack. God bless my brothers and sisters- they are all royalty.
I don't know who is compelling me to type all this drivel, but I call him god. Sorry--- GOD. I am sort of drunk and lonely. Need other conspiracy theorist losers to confirm my worthlessness. Please someone post, I am, such a vain loser.
How bout that second link? Almost cant not get up and dance. In fact, think Ill play it one more time!
Sonja.
I am too addicted to you. don't leave. You have threatened leaving before- do you like to see me reduced to rubble? Without you, I am shadows and dust.
Do you want facts? OK.
Fact is, if you knew the answers you would not be posting questions.
Jesus Bones?
Bill Schnoebelen forcasted this move years in advance. He was a member of the Illuminati.
Still don't believe? OK hotrods. Let's go together to Golgotha, I'll buy the plane ticket.- google videos "Ron Wyatt".
View all material. Don't get smart, unless you're Maxwell Smart.
Heres another:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UC8Zrtah1AQ
I leave you tomight with this:
But Im not gone yet -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D...h?
v=DuwoxWQE2Tw
I see truthers and liars. Right now, only truthers are here. Jesus Christ loves you, and so do I. I could spend days telling you why Alex Jones is good. Fruit on the tree anyone?
In time you will be like me. Completely unafraid, and happy to explore stuff. I love life. No one can hurt me. But I can hurt people. That is why I am so dangerous. Try to fight me, I dare you. Ha ha. Somethin strange goin down here. I fear myself. We are in 666. It is a shitty time. I welcome all comments, as I love people.
New Mexico is so cool I have to go there! I feel a draw toward that place. Just seems there is alot going on there, and some extremely beautiful country too.
Taos NM. That's New Mexico, right? Cool. Alien cover up central. Stick the truth in their faces Sonja. Make them have to give up real answers.
Light- 186,000 miles per second. Just some pointless knowledge- to idiots.
Gabe- NM is New Mexico, you know- Los Alamos nuclear lab , White Sands and Area 51? Suprised you dont know that. Im living in the heart of conspiracy and government cover up land.
sane-too true
So, you know I wonder about that, because for example if I were picked up, with all my 'weird theories', some of my friends might just say 'I lost it'.......Some who knew me well might say, 'never' but would be to afraid to speak out. Like the people who said Cho in the vids was not the same as the college student they knew.
What is NM? Oh well. See ya tommorrow truth babe. Me and Sane shall post night watch.
Sonja. No biggee.
You can crash here if you need to indefinately. Gabriel Alan King. 635 N 12th st. Apt#1 Spearfish SD. Love ya girl. And all truth heroes. Welcome at my pad any day of the week.
Much love to Spearhead SD, may you survive a nuke, me in Taos NM, I think Im out of harms way, Sane, I also hope you are out of harms way.
Peace, til tomarrow,
xxxxxx S.
Please God, someone post. What am I if not for those whom I love?
Now sane says he was insane and mind controlled,
I was anon sonja (explained it in the next post).
He was made insane through mind control techniques.
Before US picked him up as a terrorist, he was fine.
We scrambled his brain using MK ultra techniques.
I never said he was a controlled patsy like VT.
He was just caught up in outr BS war on terror, trying to make a case when there was no evidence. To cover up our error, we brought in "specialists" who scrambled his brain.
This is why it is most frightening-they can pick anyone of us up with no evidence and scramble our brains.
0That upsets me the most.
Look , my time its nearly 3am, and I have a big plate. I have to move, I have no idea where Im moving to as yet.
the US /globalists are about to nuke us somewhere in the US, the dollar is dropping through the floor, and we are going to nuke Iran.
On the verge of Martial law, I dont have time for much bullshit. I get daily headaches on this already.
Im going to bed, we can fight the NWO tomorrow, same time same station.
Someone please post. I'm desperate.
Sonja. I will stick with you on this Padilla thing, unless Sane comes up with some magick. Your view sounds rational. However, Sane doesn't just pop off with unsubstantiated crap. He usually has a point. Let's hear his testimony.
Padilla was an inside job! Except, I know as much about him as I do Jack, from Jack in the Box.
911 truth is an inside job! People are using the truth to expose the truth! All truth is false, unless it is confirmed by FOX news. Alex Jones uses the truth to deceive unwitting young people into believing truth, whether it's true or not!!!
We know Alex is the devil, cause he does not rant day and night about Jews and Zionism! Or Jesuits. (950+milllion Catholics)
Anon-
I knew from day one Padilla was a bullshit case.
I watched the open source news , and even then it was a zero case. Total bs from start to finish. I really feel for this guy.
Now sane says he was insane and mind controlled, but he could not have been because HE DID NOTHING. not like the VA shooter,
HE just boarded a plane, nothing else.
No backround, no evidence. ZERO.
For me, it was a plan gone bad, a possibility of blame that just didnt work.
NOW he might have been electroshocked into complacence, but before it was not the case.
While we are on the subject, three agents of the CIA were arrested in Florida and held without the right to speak to the press of an attorney in the early 90's.
They claimed Christ was an alien. If you don't understand the signifigance of this story, think harder.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
Sonja knows the truth! Who is Barney Frank? Never heard his name before- even in sick circles. You go girl.
Sane. Sane. Sane. Bueller............
Gabriel Alan King | 05.16.07 - 4:53 am | #
Barney is the first coming out gay congressman that was tied into the Conspiracy of Silence johnny gosh cover up. He is still a congressman, like Senator Byrd that had a lot of sex with cathy o brien and played alien hoax mind games on her. He also used to be in the KKK, and yes he is still a senator.
BTW - that earlier post was me forgot to sign it
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
Sonja knows the truth! Who is Barney Frank? Never heard his name before- even in sick circles. You go girl.
Sane. Sane. Sane. Bueller............
sonja | 05.16.07 - 4:43 am | #
Sonja-Padilla was mind fucked after we picked him up on false intel. He did nothing, he is a US citizen.
We picked him up and fucked with his brain so that he would not be able to talk about what happened to him or defend himself.
He was implanted with a program that makes him fear his attorney's
We mind fucked him
We totally killed his brain under the pretext of a war on terror.
He was not used for a political statement, we just rounded him up based on BS and then went too far, to cover it up we went WAY too far.
But please understand we destroyed his brain through MK ultra techniques-no doubt whatsoever.
Nicole and George are Illuminati. Look closely at their knuckle fingers..........
The only reason I post this drivel is cause I'm lonely. Please someone say something. Otherwise I'll just make shit up till i pancake into my own footprint.
Wait, I dont know Cathy, I know OF her.
I am sickened every time I see Barney Frank talk, still a Legislator , because I know he is a pedophilial, perverted freak and a sex criminal posing as a servant of the people.
He should have been oustd and exposed long ago, along with the Bush's satatic cult , fake christians, believe me, I know.
Truth is, I don't know a damn thing about Padilla. I don't even know what the hoopla is about. You are probably right, but I am not smart on this. I have mexican friends, they like me. Many from Alaska when I worked commercial fishing. Padilla is your and Sanes territory- I will just listen.
I believe in pizza terrorists too. The last pizza I had delivered was late- and Nicole Kidman showed up instead. She said that terrorists had put a bomb in my pizza, and her and George Clooney were going to disarm it for me. Thank God they showed up! Other wise the peacemakers would have had their way.................
I know Cathy, and severla others involved in the child sex ring scandal, and mind control, and I think the VA shooter bullshit was just a small part of that. The thing is Padilla is just a zero case.
The reason is Padilla did nothing, he threatened noone, he was implicated in an alleged thought terrorist crime.
The very fact that is hispanic by nature , because I know hispanics and they have no motive either way, but also there is nothing to implicat this guy, not a word, a single violent action, he just boarded a plane, suggests to me, much like Timothy Mc Veigh they were trying to implicate homegrown terrorists and it was a dead end and backfired.
Mind control is very real. If it wasn't, then how do you explain how stupid we all were before people like Mark Koernke and Alex Jones turned on the lightbulb in our brain?
The pizza terrorists thing is funny! I still kinda don't know, but rather "feel" what it means.
Have you studied Cathy O'Brien, Red Sonja? Or try Kay Griggs. Either one on google videos.
Its a thought crime case, dont go too far, you lose credibility.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 4:34 am | #
The interrogation made him insane when he was in US custody.
There is no evidence he was insane before the MK torture
Now you got me curious, which one?
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Waht evidence do we have Padilla was insane? He did nothing! He took a plane. Thats it!
Nothing connects him to anything. Dont go too far, he is not insane, he is not mind programmed because he did nothing, threatened nothing.
Its a thought crime case, dont go too far, you lose credibility.
"Friendship Committee?"
SUCK MY DICK. More Illuminati smoke & mirrors Satan worship child fucking lies.
If these techniques drove Padilla insane, that means the U.S. government has been deliberately driving hundreds, possibly thousands, of prisoners insane around the world. What is on trial in Florida is not one man's mental state. It is the whole system of U.S. psychological torture.
You are taking it too far. Padilla never DID anything, nor attempted anything. He was the victim of 'thought crime'. Much like the Pizza Terrorists.
The freaking pizza guy went to the local cops and said "this guy wants ne to give him a map of Fort DIX' ! The feds now say it was a covert excuse to see if the embedded FBI agent WAS in faxt and agent, talk about double speak!
Padilla never did anything, it is a thought crime case, a supposition case. A case of probable possibilities with no evidence.
Sane is like the Oracle. He is a fountain of knowledge. I go to him for questions, and I have learned to trust his integrity.
>>>Iranians Want to Talk to U.S. Congress
(they are sensing a false flag too)
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http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/
arc...=D8P4VNRO2.html
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI Associated Press Writer
May 15,2007 | TEHRAN, Iran -- A group of Iranian lawmakers wants to create a "friendship committee" that would open contacts with the U.S. Congress -- an unprecedented attempt to build ties at a time when Iran's hard-line leadership also appears willing to talk with the country's No. 1 enemy.
Proponents hope the effort, for which they were gathering petition signatures Tuesday, will be condoned by Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has final say in national matters.
Contacts between the countries have long been taboo, a status enforced by Iran's top leadership -- made up of Shiite clerics -- since the U.S. cut ties with Iran after the 1979 seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.
More recently, as tension between the two countries over Iran's nuclear program and other issues has escalated, the dialogue situation has also shifted. Over the weekend, the two governments agreed to hold ambassador-level talks about Iran's war-torn neighbor, Iraq.
A so-called "friendship committee" would open a unique channel of communication between politicians, who presumably could tackle any topic.
"If (Iranian) government officials can reconcile with Americans, why can't the Iranian nation reconcile with the American people?" asked Jalal Hosseini, a pro-reform lawmaker who signed the petition.
So far, proponents have gathered 20 signatures and plan to seek more at the 290-seat parliament. Backers come from across Iran's political spectrum.
I had that same thought. That's why I called you Valkyrie. She is a warrior of truth and goodness. I figured it would ring a bell love........
Now Sonja's got me thinkin. What's the matter sweets, Bed springs not workin? Love ya. You are a definate truth seeker. I can tell almost everything about most people just by what they say. God bless you, and give you power.
Pleasant dreams Valkyrie.
Interesting you would say that, its not the first time Ive been akinned to that image.
Sane. Every time a "normal" person says I am a conspiracy nut, I just give them a flier with the executive orders #10995-12919. That shuts them up every time! HA! What do you think? We need to make some more fliers.
I got these from M.O.M. in mid 90's. Tell me if you know who mom is.
http://www.nowtoronto.com/
issues...news_story5.php
That makes Padilla's case unique. He is the only victim of the post-9/11 legal netherworld to face an ordinary U.S. trial.
Now that his mental state is the central issue in the case, the government prosecutors have a problem. The CIA and the military have known since the early 1960s that extreme sensory deprivation and sensory overload cause personality disintegration that's the whole point.
Kubark Counterintelligence Interrogation, a declassified 1963 CIA manual for interrogating "resistant sources" was based on the findings of the agency's notorious MK-Ultra program. In the 1950s, it funnelled about $25 million to scientists to research "unusual techniques of interrogation." One of the psychiatrists who received CIA funding was the infamous Ewen Cameron of Montreal's McGill University.
Cameron subjected hundreds of psychiatric patients to large doses of electroshock and total sensory isolation and drugged them with LSD and PCP. In 1960, Cameron gave a lecture at the Brooks Air Force Base in Texas in which he stated that sensory deprivation "produces the primary symptoms of schizophrenia."
There is no need to go so far back to prove that the U.S. military knew full well that it was driving Padilla mad. The Army's field manual, reissued just last year, states, "Sensory deprivation may result in extreme anxiety, hallucinations, bizarre thoughts, depression, and anti-social behavior," as well as "significant psychological distress."
If these techniques drove Padilla insane, that means the U.S. government has been deliberately driving hundreds, possibly thousands, of prisoners insane around the world. What is on trial in Florida is not one man's mental state. It is the whole system of U.S. psychological torture.
The Padilla case is a non.
He is being framed for what reason I cant even imagine. I knew this also day one.
First of all 'Padilla' is spanish. The spaniards or mexicans have no motive in this or ANY fight.
This appears to me as a plot to implicate hispanics gone bad, a dead end.
There is no fucking way this guy did anything, was never in training camps, never went to Pakistan or Afghanistan, there is Nothing here.
Never was, never will be.
MK Ultra?!??!!!
I didn't know that! Do they admit it? I know that Clinton had to apologize for it. In fact, Clinton looks brain mushed on some of his videos prior to his speeches. Have you looked into Cathy O'Brien yet?
When the Feds indict me for telling the truth, I want you as my personal attorney.
Where the hell do you dig this stuff up?
Gabriel Alan King | 05.16.07 - 4:10 am | #
The Padilla case is so important to all of our freedoms.
He was picked up based on flimsy if not false intelligence held for 3.5 years with no rights. The did MK ultra interrogation and he is pretty much a vegetable.
Everyone needs to know everything about this case. It is essential to uncovering more about these fuckers.
His case if allowed to stand is a major defeat for the constitution and human rights.
"Cooking oil".
Reminds me of the cult classic "Willard"- which I love and own on DVD. Where the hell do you dig this stuff up?
I wish I could sleep, but I am conspiracy fucked. Pleasant dreams Valkyrie.
Pot's cool. Smoke it proud like a free man! Or woman! Loren smokes. Check out his stuff at www.LorenAdams.com
He is a nice guy and is my friend.
This Padilla case is so fucked up:
Mystery Afghan gave Padilla evidence to U.S.
Tue May 15, 2007 3:46PM EDT
By Jane Sutton
MIAMI (Reuters) - An Afghan man drove up to a CIA outpost in Kandahar in December 2001 and delivered a truckload of documents, including what prosecutors say is U.S. citizen Jose Padilla's al Qaeda pledge form, according to trial testimony on Tuesday. The CIA agent who received the documents said he had never seen the man before but understood that he was loyal to a tribal leader cooperating with U.S. forces who were then driving out Afghanistan's Taliban government."He said this item came from an office that had previously been used by Arabs," said the agent, who was given permission to testify under a false name and wore a beard and glasses to hide his identity. "Basically he cleaned out the office."
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Padilla, 36, and two co-defendants are on trial on charges of conspiring to "murder, kidnap and maim" around the globe and providing material support for terrorists. Prosecutors said they were part of a Florida support cell that provided money and recruits for Islamists waging a violent international jihad, or holy war. The government initially accused Padilla of plotting to set off a radiological "dirty bomb" in the United States and President George W. Bush sent him to a U.S. military jail for 3-1/2 years as an "enemy combatant." That designation was dropped amid a challenge to Bush's wartime powers, and Padilla was added to an existing indictment in Miami, which makes no mention of any bomb plot. Prosecutors say Padilla attended an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan in 2000, and presented a document they said was an enrollment form for the camp, bearing Padilla's fingerprints. Prosecutors have said the document was Padilla's al Qaeda training camp enrollment form.
The agent was handed a blue binder containing several pages. He testified that he recognized it as one he unloaded from the heap of documents in the unidentified Afghani's truck and later delivered to the FBI in Pakistan in a cardboard box that once contained cooking oil. He said he handled it with his bare hands and could not read it because he does not understand Arabic. "You do realize that you degrade the quality of a piece of evidence by handling it with your bare hands?" asked one of Padilla's lawyers, Orlando do Campo. "Yes," replied the CIA agent.
The agent said he did not know who had filled in the form nor when. Nor did he know the motive of the tribal leader he presumed had directed the load of documents to be delivered.
"I'm not in a position to gauge the level of reliability," he said.
An FBI agent who received and inventoried the documents in Islamabad testified that she sent them on to an FBI office near Washington to be translated. That agent, Jennifer Keenan, said she could not read the form alleged to incriminate Padilla but recognized it as similar to another that had been partly translated from Arabic.
"I knew the content as being a pledge form with personal identification," said Keenan.
She did not elaborate on the nature of the pledge but said the form contained "the rules of going to the camp."
Padilla, who faces life in prison if convicted, sat stoically, as he has throughout the proceedings.
The FBI arrested the former street gang member at Chicago's O'Hare airport in May 2002 as he returned from the Middle East, where he had lived for about five years.
Hey, if any one of us is going to bed at least say goodnight ok? Its getting late on my side of the equasion.
The three of us together is really powerful, now that I made myself think of it. Sane with his dead on facts and megabyte intel. Me with the spiritual. Sonja with everything- especially a right vantage point of the truth. Damn we are good! Look out world, God is a comin.........
How has your world narrowed as you got into NWO?
Shit, even as I live in a small hippie town that believes 911 ws n inside job , like 90 % thank God, most are pot smoking do nothings.
So it's just us? The three musketeers? Sonja, Sane, Gabe? Where the hell are the midnight oil patriots?
Dude, I don't even know what I am thinking, let alone when I am kidding. I will leave that for you to tell me..........
As I am half fucking crazy- or maybe just wish I was.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 3:52 am | #
I am aligned with these beliefs
Sonja. Your are kicking ass, babe. Keep getting the message out, not matter what! Your successes will shortly overshadow your failures- 911 truth is coming out!!!!!
Also, it is vital to understand, that without the 2nd Amendment- there is no freedom. Nature of the Beast.
I hope to God you guys know when I am kidding.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.16.07 - 3:49 am |
I just hope you know when you are kidding.
Wanna hear the best quote ever?
"The only thing necessary for evil men to triumph, is for good men to do nothing."- Edmund Burke
The lying 501c3 Christians can put that in their pipe and smoke it.
Dont mis-underestimate me. (Bushism)
I fight every single day for the freedom bestowed upon us by the Founders, I love them , read them, they were so smart and fight to preserve those ideals. When in the US I am so olitical it harms my relationships , friendships and often work environment, because I am dedicated to no end.
Is that patriotism or just stubborness?
I believe all people deserve a world free of violence and war. Too often Patriotism translates to war.
I am anti -war first, at my base knowledge. I work for an anti-war paradigm , and freedom paradigm, not homos are bad, not religious oppression based on morals. Freedom, the real thing.
I hope to God you guys know when I am kidding. I try to be obvious.
I am also for preserving what was granted to us, above all others by our Founders in our Constitution, no more , no less.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 3:38 am | #
for the record, that is my definition of patriot. Anything else is a fake patriot. Mark Twain quotes shed light on the difference:
Mark Twain about true patriot:
"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
Mark Twain on fake patriots:
“Patriot: the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about.”
I am glad the police shot that 92 year old woman and planted drugs on her. She was probably a terrorist or something anyway.......
Fuck search warrants. And peoples Constitutional rights. We gotta shoot peaceful protesters, especially women, in the face!
Sonja. That last post was so good, I had to take a moment. Good point about the blood. That's what the red stripes on the flag represent. I, like you, am for the rights and freedoms of all people of the world. So is Sane. He just gets riled up sometimes in his stuff. Dudes smart though, and know alot about what is going on.
Sonja- your back!!! Yay! Let's post till the little birds chirp- patriotism never sleeps!
Stephen Jones is a fraud. His facts and figures are debunked right here in................
Oh shit! My papers just blew away in the wind! You gotta believe me, I got the proof! I, I, I, I, (Lost signal)
Because I live on a clock, does that make me a time traveler? We all travel through time at will. Step into other dimensions. What's going on behind the curtain?
The truth was invented to throw everyone off the trail of the real non reality. I am God.
Or maybe I am just an idiot who takes handouts from heroes like Alex J. and Militia of Montana. They did the homework. I owe them my allegiance. Alex Jones rocks.
Tell me about it, nothing pisses off a women more than diverting attention that could have gone to them. Being a patriot is bad for a relationship.
sane | 05.16.07 - 3:03 am | #
I am not a 'Patriot'. I look at our flag and see centuries of spilled BLOOD.
I do love what the Founders did for us and when here I will defend that with my life.
I lived 10 years in Spain, with no wars and no threats, and I loved it and could have lived there forever, if not for the EU, which made immigration a hard thing, impossible to work without $10,000 in the bank and self financed health care etc for 1st world citizens, but 3rd world immigrants could get by with refugee status and selling drugs on the street.
When in the US, and Ive lived outside as much as Ive lived inside, and was privy to Mexican immigration law, they were ruthless in deporting US workers....anyway, while living here, Im not a patriot.
I am for humane treatment of all citizens of the World. I am also for preserving what was granted to us, above all others by our Founders in our Constitution, no more , no less.
>>>SENATE INVESTIGATES MCA
"The Common Theme Is Hypocrisy"
By Senator Carl Levin
t r u t h o u t | Statement
http://www.truthout.org/docs_200...6/
051407R.shtml
Thursday 26 April 2007
The following is the opening statement delivered on April 27th to the Senate Armed Services Committee.
America's standing in the world has taken a nosedive since the world embraced us after 9/11. According to a recent poll conducted by the Program on International Policy Attitudes, 67% of the people surveyed across 25 countries disapprove of the U.S. handling of Guantanamo detainees. The Program Director explained: "The thing that comes up repeatedly is not just anger about Iraq. The common theme is hypocrisy. The reaction tends to be - You were a champion of a certain set of rules. Now you are breaking your own rules."
The Secretary of Defense recognized this problem last month when he acknowledged that he had recommended closing Guantanamo because "there is a taint about it."
America at its best is a beacon for human rights and human liberty, and that's how we like to see ourselves. But much of the world sees us in a very different way when we fail to live up to the standards we profess. For us, the symbol of American values is the Statue of Liberty. For much of the world, it is that horrific photograph of a hooded prisoner at Abu Ghraib, standing on a box, strung up with wires.
It's no doubt hard to care about due process for people like Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and Abu Zubaydah. But, as Senator Graham said at the time of our trip to Guantanamo to observe the CSRT for Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, it's not about them. It's about us. If we fail to uphold our own values, we undermine our own security.
There are many reasons not to allow abuse of detainees or the use of coerced testimony B it's morally wrong, it produces unreliable information, it violates domestic and international law, it undermines the support we need in the world community to win the war against terrorism, and it jeopardizes our own troops if they are captured. But there is also this: people are less likely to believe what we say about our detainees if they have been abused. Even when an admitted terrorist like Khalid Sheikh Mohammad confesses to the most heinous of terrorist acts, the world focuses far too much on how we treated him and not nearly enough on what, by his own words, he did to us.
The Administration would like us to believe that detainees' allegations of abusive treatment are fabrications, based on al Qaeda training manuals.
But listen to what our own people at Guantanamo were saying. In late 2002, FBI personnel at Guantanamo objected to aggressive military interrogation techniques, describing them as "coercive" and "torture" techniques. Law enforcement personnel questioned the legality of these techniques and told FBI officials back in Washington "you won't believe it." And a Defense Department investigation led by Lt. General Randall Schmidt found that the use of these techniques constituted "abusive treatment."
Last September, this Committee approved, on a bipartisan 15-9 vote, a bill that would have helped address the problems caused by our treatment of detainees by establishing new procedures for trying detainees, consistent with the Supreme Court's ruling in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld. However, this bill was never taken up by the full Senate. Instead, the Administration persuaded a majority of Congress to:
narrow the accepted definitions of "cruel and inhuman treatment";
authorize the Administration to unilaterally redefine its obligations under the Geneva Conventions;
allow the use of hearsay and coerced testimony in criminal trials of detainees;
insulate senior administration officials from accountability for detainee abuses;
bar detainees from ever bringing any legal action challenging any aspect of their detention; and
prohibit the courts from providing legal relief for detainees who are found to be improperly held.
From Steven Jones new paper:
Conclusion
In closing, I wish to emphasize that there are now many capable individuals who are contributing to the quest for the truth about what happened on 9/11/01 and the possibility of insider involvement. For example, there are already over thirty-five peer-reviewed papers at the Journalof911Studies.com.
I wish to add my conviction that 9/11 researchers must not assume a defensive posture, supposing that we are just victims in a brutal chess game. Rather, we can increase awareness of the many lines of evidence that together imply that the 9/11 events involve much more than we have been told by the US government or by the media. Many of us sense a higher Source guiding our research and peace efforts.
I am confident that by working together and seeking the facts with determination, we will succeed in finding out the truth about 9/11. If we act before the next series of restrictions on our liberties, we should be able to achieve justice and peace as well.
I don't know why we just don't have the "Warren Commission" investigate 911. It would be less of an insult to our intelligence.
Sonja. A real investigation was already tried. 911 "Unanswered questions" by victims families. Good vid. Exposes fraud of 911 commission report.
Me and AAA both have talked about it and agree, you know a lot of shit- details and such. I am glad you're on our side! How do you do it?
Sonja. Where are you? You never tell me when your leaving. Anyway, love ya. Come back.
We are soldiers in the infowars. You are a 4 star general, bro.
And to get Eddie, we need an excellent video- I think?
Sane. Any way you dice it, it is a global conspiracy. Don't trick yourself into isolated incident shit. It's OK if the truth is crazy, as long as it is true.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.16.07 - 3:15 am | #
of course it is global. We are in a world war at the moment:
truth v. deception
It is happening all over the world.
The internet is allowing an exponential distribution o f truth.
Dude, I hear ya! But to make an excellent video we need Eddie Van Halen. And we need Eddie Van Halen to make an excellent video! Connect these dots.
It doesnt matter, Im not even sure I want an official investigation to 'prove' us wrong. I want doubt, all across the board, all the time.
This is much more powerful than some baloney investigation.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 3:12 am | #
I cannot argue with that, but we also need to eventually get back to a semblance of integrity in this country.
I think that the outing of the injustice department is a good first step.
Hopefully then we can impeach bush and then the NWO will be with less insane cover. I think that eith Ron Paul or Mike Gravel could ensure a real investigation into 911. This will grant us back our freedoms and demolish secresy in government.
Sane. Any way you dice it, it is a global conspiracy. Don't trick yourself into isolated incident shit. It's OK if the truth is crazy, as long as it is true.
If she doesn't, will you?
Gabriel Alan King | 05.16.07 - 3:04 am | #
dude, step away from the bottle...
sane- Please! Do you think ANY investigation will EVER amount to TRUTH?
What is MOST important is that 'mostly' everyone knows 911 official story is a big fat lie.
WE cannot prove anything, what we can prove is that the official story is a lie.
We cant prove 'who dunnit' , but we can prove the people they say did it didnt , that there is a big cover up, that our government is so dirty its obvious, to a discerning mind, not to the denial mind. There will always be 30 % losers , brainwashed idiots.
It doesnt matter, Im not even sure I want an official investigation to 'prove' us wrong. I want doubt, all across the board, all the time.
This is much more powerful than some baloney investigation.
I love women but men are scum. I should know, I am a man. Except for Lillith Aquino that is..........
Either Bin Laden, really and truly defected, or , he was on his deathbed and they decided to use him, but even so, the Saudi Family would have rejected such use, bringing shame on them overall.
Its a piece I cannot close in my mind.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 1:58 am | #
It is a simple strategy used by NWO, grab a black sheep and use him to do the evil shit. He is protected by his royal family. A few black sheep used by illuminati:
Patti hearst
Billy Carter
Marvin Bush
Osama
Saddam's son
Jeb's daughter
They do stupid shit like bad land deals, get drunk/drugged/make terrorist videos.
The shit is then used by illuminatei for whatever.
Bin Laden is a construction company.
I am sure that osama's terror attacks allow for lucrative construction contracts-it may just be that simple
Wow Sonja. That was a whole lot of stuff. Amazons are an interesting subject. Maybe there is something to it. Cause people often buy into whatever. Just look at the worlds religions, myths, heavens gate club, jones town, etc.
Possibly once women did rule society.
How do you picture it if women took over today- which I would prefer.
How dare you insult my fiance! Sir, I challenge you to a duel! Pistols at dawn!
As usual Sane, a slew of good evidence.
You are the Mr.Spock of the truth movement. I have asked Sonja to marry me. If she doesn't, will you? I mean, we don't have to sleep together or anything. I just can't stand the thought of you not always being there with your truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Up all night on the net. Not good for relationships.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 2:35 am | #
Tell me about it, nothing pisses off a women more than diverting attention that could have gone to them. Being a patriot is bad for a relationship.
ok though, much you may not know. Women ran the world once, before arms, before the Bronze age, before men could make weapons. It was because we gave birth and people thought we were godlike for this.
Obviously it wasnt all great, because as soon as men could make weapons and not jewelry to adorn their goddesses with, they over threw us in bloody conquests. Hence the Amazons, who also died in wars of independance, hence a patriarchal overthrow.
Then came god as male, his son, and zero female influence. HIS-STORY.
I wasn't even kidding about the women stuff! It makes sense, doesn't it? Since you ARE a woman, I will let you tell me. I got way to much testosterone in my brain to trust myself.
I am takig about clarity for the masses that are listening. It HAS to hav a clear and reasonable timeline of truth.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 1:43 am | #
I am in disagreement with this.
We do not know all the answers for a big reason:
there has never been an independent investigation.
We never have to feel insecure about knowing all the answers. We are not investigators/prosecutors at the level of the FBI/Patrick Fitzgerald. We need to demand an independent investigation due to 3 skyscrapers blowing up in under 30 seconds.
We need to know why Rudy removed evidence in the largest crime scene in US history.
We need to know why we are causing more animosity towards us.
Do not be distracted by people talking about osama, he was a pawn and is probably dead.
Just because he has a beef with us does not mean anything, he might even think he did it. Since when does a confession of a terrorist cause us to stop an investigation?
Just go to the physical evidence and a debunker has no leg to stand on.
Sonja, please marry me. I don't want to believe in conspiracies any more. I just want a normal life. 2.5 kids. Timeshare. A white picket fence. A neighbor named "Jim". A good credit rating. Approving relatives. I am Truman.
Save me from my wretched self! Ahhhhhh (smile) Love women sweetie. Specially truthers and good girls!
hahhahaah!
In fact, if women ran the world, they would probably spend most of their time at summits complimenting one another on they're choice of wardrobe.
You are so funny, I get a good laugh out of a lot of your stuff. Last nights loss of tower and pancake theory was just too much.
In fact, if women ran the world, they would probably spend most of their time at summits complimenting one another on they're choice of wardrobe.
Come to think of it, I am the biggest feminist there is!!! That makes me feel good.
http://globalresearch.ca/article...es/
CHO405E.html
Yes, Sorry Anon, it is known we have been financing these guys forever, just like Saddam Hussein.
Global Research is one of my daily checkpoints, and do you know they are Canadian based!
It was there I found out about the North American Union before anyone knew, and I was skeptical at first.
GR is well ahead of the game. I suggest watching bookmarking them and watching them every day. They were the first to highlight and put on watch the three aircraft carriers to the Persian Gulf, months before any news of this in US press. They have good connections, good military analysis.
Heroin production is up a thousand fold since the Iraq war. Yep.
Drug monopoly. Distributed by the CIA to the mob in america- then on down the pyramid.
Demi Moore was born and raised in Roswell New Mexico in a trailer.
Is it just me, or is there something about women that is just naturally loving, and wise?
If women ran the world, I really can't picture war happening.
Hell, we should get married. I look at conspiracy stuff day and night. I am always hungry for intel. Love Alex Jones. I would only bother you about not researching enough! (smile)
My psychiatrist was the Seattle chess champion. Much like your story- ink blots and shit. Was fun playing chess with him though. He didn't use it as a tool either. He just liked chess. Neat guy. I'm glad I did it.
Since the Soviet invasion of Afghsnistan, Osama was a CIA operative. We armed him and set him against the Soviets, largely useful in the Soviet fall. They spent themselves trying to take Afghanistan, and we will do no better, except we are killing them in poppy/ heroin ddiction now.
WHO MADE WHO?? Nice summary for the most part here. May help perhaps....
http://globalresearch.ca/article...es/
CHO405E.html
By the time I was 18, I could play Yngwie Malmsteen's "Far beyond the sun" on guitar. And VH and Satch Boogie.
I mostly liked Led Zep, Floyd, U2, Iron Maiden, and Rush though. Music is my life, sorta. Outside of conspiracy stuff.
----so I gotta make up conspiracy stuff cause i feel so pathetic.
Me too. Im absolutely pathetic. When I was a kid they wanted to put me in Mensa and advance me grades- AND I had to go to a psychiatrist because I was against my parents, racism and the Vietnam war since about 6 years old, and I wasnt even allowed to watch tv! The Psyche had me fingerpaint all day and charge my parents a fortune.
It was pretty wierd. I was obviously born a freak. But I look pretty normal, in fact do well with men. You know, sexy enough and all that, until they figure out I spend more time on politics than on them. Up all night on the net. Not good for relationships.
Kinda buzzed. What Soviet invasion? I'm lost.
What do guys need "male enhancement" for. Aren't we hungry enough as it is? Fuck!
Every day on tv some new fuckin drug, or male enhancement, or JG Wentworth, or attourney.
What are kids supposed to think?
Our world is totally degenerated.
Sonja. You're like the mommy I never had. You are good.
Possible Osama deal before 9-11?? hmmm....
Claims rejected by CIA.
Possible? Like since the Soviet invasion!
The reason I am into conspiracy stuff is not cause it's true. It's cause I am a loser, who has no girlfriend or a life. So I join stuff like trekkies and stuff to fill the void. Like on the movie SIGNS. I make stuff up. Just jerkin it and watchin movies cause i am lonely, so I gotta make up conspiracy stuff cause i feel so pathetic.
(smile)
Lyrics:
I remember when, I remember, I remember when I lost my mind
There was something so pleasant about that place.
Even your emotions had an echo
In so much space
And when you're out there
Without care,
Yeah, I was out of touch
But it wasn't because I didn't know enough
I just knew too much
Does that make me crazy
Does that make me crazy
Does that make me crazy
Possibly[video version]
Probably[CD version]
And I hope that you are having the time of your life
But think twice, that's my only advice
Come on now, who do you, who do you, who do you, who do you think you are,
Ha ha ha bless your soul
You really think you're in control
Well, I think you're crazy
I think you're crazy
I think you're crazy
Just like me
My heroes had the heart to Lose their lives out on a limb
And all I remember is thinking, I want to be like them
Ever since I was little, ever since I was little it looked like fun
And it's no coincidence I've come
And I can die when I'm done
Maybe I'm crazy
Maybe you're crazy
Maybe we're crazy
Possibly
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/
...tent_281605.htm
Possible Osama deal before 9-11?? hmmm....
Claims rejected by CIA.
Speaking of crazy-
After 20+ years of research, I have basically concluded that there is a grand conspiracy for world domination run by Lucifer, and reptillians disguised as human beings. Our government swaps tech with bad aliens, and lies to us. The Illuminati is real, alive, and weaves through other secret societies like a virus, or common cold transfers.
No one enters the conspiracy unless they agree to be compramised, on video- weird sex stuff. Masons is a recruiting ground for NWO.
Like it or not- we will be given ORDO DE CHAO- Fourth kingdom in Daniel.
Its not about mellow, dukie, its about knowledge making you crazy.
Cool song. If you really want to mellow though- try some Duncan Shiek.
Listen to the lyrics, I think he s NWO aware.
Dan Rather also said that 911 looked like controlled demo, on the live broadcast!!!
Someone better have a talk with Danny boy. We don't want people getting, anxious. (smile)
Listen to this video/song, and settle down, maybe get a good night rest:
We are not crazy, but maybe, maybe not:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h?v=U-
shZs2I4E4
If Osama was in the hospital, how did he pull off 911?
As usual, our own government is totally evasive and changes stories like a chameleon.
I like your "pizza delivery terrorist" thing. Something about that struck me funny.
Not drunk tonight. Just honest- not a hypacrite.
9/10 OSAMA IN HOSPITAL ON 9/10, ONE DAY BEFORE THE ATTACKS ON THE WTC
Don Rumsfeld states that the whereabouts of Osama are unknown. Yet, according to Dan Rather, CBS, Bin Laden was back in Hospital, one day before the 9/11 attacks, on September 10, this time, courtesy of America's indefectible ally Pakistan. Pakistan's Military Intelligence (ISI) told CBS that bin Laden had received dialysis treatment in Rawalpindi, at Pak Army's headquarters:
[transcript of CBS report, see http://www.globalresearch.ca/art...es/
CBS203A.html
There are many divisions in Islam, just as in Christianity. Tim- or Osama, as you refer to him- is a CIA asset, and a player. He don't care about shit but gettin pain under the table. So are the Saudi royals- fake Muslims. All other countries of the Earth are manipulated and run by NWO agents, just as we are. We are positioned against one another, and lied to about everything.
Gabe, you cant get all drunk and just spew bullshit, its somewhat exhausting.
Most fetuses are Skull & Bones.
Fetuses planned 911 in collusion with Arab women and children!
That's why we need to give all our tax dollars to help genocide.
Osama is no low level patsy. He is not a pizza delivery terrorist. These things were very well planned out.
He made some very real videos, which means he was 'in' on it.
He never admitted to the attacks, but called for 'jihad' against americans, years before 911.
This is undisputed, for the reasons you mentioned, US bases in Saudi Arabia, the genocide gainst Palestinians, support for Israel.
This can easily be put in the category of pre-evidence of his eventual alleged attack on the WTC.
My disconnect is WHY, the Saudis , bin Laden family would offer up one of their sons to take such blame and loss of face in order to further the agenda. Almost Christ like, its an extreme, so there is, for me a missing puzzle piece.
Either Bin Laden, really and truly defected, or , he was on his deathbed and they decided to use him, but even so, the Saudi Family would have rejected such use, bringing shame on them overall.
Its a piece I cannot close in my mind.
We need to torture fetuses, but only if they are white. That's what Jesus would want.
Think about it. They print the damn money! Don't think for one second that they don't run off some for themselves and their friends on the side............
Just in case anyone thinks I am serious about the fetuses. Please do not take out of context. This is merely an extension of satire, and intended solely as another weapon in our arsenal against the perpetrators of injustice!! (fine print)
"They may take our lives, but they will never take- OUR FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"- Mel
Osama was a known CIA asset. The Bushes and Bin Ladens are business partners. It's not mostly about oil. Who the fuck needs oil when you can print your own money!!! Oil is to keep us stupid and addicted like heroin addicts.
There are 666 panes of glass on the new pyramid structure where they currently print our new dollars. Rothschilds are Illuminist scum. The zero point energy alone resulting from alien tech exchange could free us from fossil fuels forever.
This is all about control, the nature of evil, and greed.
sane- I am with you, all the way. I just did not understand your previous post, about Osamas beefs. You need to look at this.
Its very hard to debate with people (here) who are drunk, or drugged writing a bunch of bulshit spam.
I read your post, and if you believe or want to say, Osama had a beef, it means he might have done it. This muddies the waters.
Osama could NOT have done it. He can be a patsy, so you cant argue his BEEF.
We as a 911 truth movement need to be very clear , not argue, Silvertein KNEW and was in on planting the explosives , but HAD to be WARNED not to go to work on 911. Or Osama had a beef so he did it , but he really didnt do it the Elites did it.
I am takig about clarity for the masses that are listening. It HAS to hav a clear and reasonable timeline of truth.
G'night folks.
Riley
DEATH TO THE NWO!!
Perhaps I need to think it over more. Getting late. Fetuses no doubt are responsible for squibs in WTC collapse. We must abort all fetuses from now on.
The kind of secrets I am talking about are not Bohemian butt-fuck related. I am talking about national defense. Or am I way out on a limb here??
Anonymous | 05.16.07 - 1:36 am | #
Yeah some stuff (not civilian weapons, only actual military weapons). I think this not government but military. the lines are blurred. Military needs to be a tool for protecting the country, but the government is the overall structure for us that needs to be open.
At one time I said yes "SECRETS" are in fact the root problem... But perhaps that is because evil people always seem to have them. Perhaps some good people have them as well. We can only hope!
I don't see what domestic crime and government secret treason have in common. Domestic crime will always exist no matter what, it is human nature. Our choice to allow our government to operate in secret is an entirely different matter.
We need to make up our minds. DID Osama have a beef and do it, or not?
He did not do it, so this line of Osamas beefs has to be debunked. We need to prove this was bullshit.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 1:26 am | #
Why is this idiot's (osama's) beef or no beef any relevance to 911. The issue is his followers (or arabs that we say are his followers) and how hey are used as scapegoats:
9/11
Cole
7/7
Madrid
Bali
etc.
The bigger and more prevelant the scapegoat, the bigger and more prevalent the false flags.
The kind of secrets I am talking about are not Bohemian butt-fuck related. I am talking about national defense. Or am I way out on a limb here??
We should also rape fetuses, cause evil is good and good is evil. Only then can we unlock the Kabbalah and create our own universe as Gods!
Government secrecy is THE ONLY reason we are in this mess.
Why we are in this mess is not the secrets in and of themselves. It is the abuse of that secrecy.
I was following you on this and "mostly" agree. Just not sure how one could be completely open when we live in an evil world. Perhaps we should leave the doors unlocked to our homes at night too!!
Sane is right. Look, the SHAME starts with Skull and Bones. They get out all their secrets, make them do shameful acts as initiations.
They are just as enslaved as the rest. Except they are the ones in power. We all know about the pedophile groups, the homosexual /pedophile initiations and rituals.
Then they are trapped.
Tortures actually a good thing, if you think about it. We should torture fetuses too, I know those little bastards are hiding something! I'll bet they helped Mohammed Atta.........
911 inside job then. Agreed?
______
From the top to the bottom and all parts in between
My shit is bulletproof. Fire away unbelievers! When I am through dissecting your reality- I will feed you to SANE!!! AH ha ha ha(evil laughter)
911 inside job then. Agreed? If not, gimme your address- i'm comin over tonight! (smile)
LOL. Gabe. Now that's funny.
No prob sane. I thought you must have misunderstood me.
SHEESH. Bit a fellas head off why don't ya!
Anonymous | 05.16.07 - 1:28 am | #
Sorry, its getting late and the faux debate and all the people clapping for torture and building a bigger gitmo made me a bit irrational.
I'm sorry Sonja. Some beers. Guess I didn't understand your point.
911 inside job then. Agreed? If not, gimme your address- i'm comin over tonight! (smile)
The only time a politician has the right to be secret is when they are taking a shower, a shit, or sleeping with their wife.
Government secrecy is THE ONLY reason we are in this mess.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.16.07 - 1:26 am | #
I agree 1,000%!
they feel guilty for their small conspiracy. sane
Might need some male enhancement, or otherwise therapy might do just as well....
That was intended to be a funny remark sane! A play on your "small conspiracy" statement! Not and inditement of your overall conclusion....
SHEESH. Bit a fellas head off why don't ya!
Other powerful people that feel ashamed of their "issues:"
impotetent gay Rush
herroine addict ann culter
gay Karl Rove
george bush and johnny gosh/gannon
peadophile ed kennedy
lah dee dah dah dah
The only time a politician has the right to be secret is when they are taking a shower, a shit, or sleeping with their wife.
Government secrecy is THE ONLY reason we are in this mess.
Sonja. 911 was supposedly an act of Jihad (Holy war) - durka durka.
Islam condemns sexual immorality, alcohol, and drug use.
Mohammed Atta loved cocaine, boose, strip clubs, and had mostly German friends. Get it yet?
Look GABE, I am one of the most informed on 911 we got going in the US. From day 2, I saw the ludicrousness of strip clubs, unpaid restaurant tabs, the previous nights arguments, he=andily left Korans and flight plans in rental cars, ATTAS alleged LEFT LUGGAGE? (uh, why do you need luggage if you are a suicide bomber?) stuff Inspector Bumblehead could have come up with. I KNEW day 1 it was BullSHIT.
What I am debating here is sanes post about Osamas beefs, which he just posted.
We need to make up our minds. DID Osama have a beef and do it, or not?
He did not do it, so this line of Osamas beefs has to be debunked. We need to prove this was bullshit.
I am a little, weird. But that is the spice of life! Loren Adams is a friend of mine. Lives in Maui. Taught Chris Laussen some lessons.
Step 1: invite an important person to an eyes wide shut party
Step 2: Give them plenty of booze so their inhibitions are low
Step 3: provide whatever they want: drugs, children, mem for men, women for women, etc.
Step 4: videotape the whole thing
Step 5: Use their guilt to fuck over the american people.
Duh, like this is just illuminati 101, catch the fuck up!
END GOVERNMENT SECRECY NOW
I agree. But that doesn't seem to work in a world full of liars and wicked people. Sometimes you have to withold truths and secrets. Do not cast pearls before swine. You lock your car don't you??
Charlie Sheen gave Alex Jones his coveted "Wolverines" jacket. Is that cool or what?
Why do they call themselves GREEN day, when they got alot of their stuff from the BLUEs?
Pearl Jam rocks. So does VH- don't matter who's singing.
they feel guilty for their small conspiracy. sane
Might need some male enhancement, or otherwise therapy might do just as well....
Anonymous | 05.16.07 - 1:16 am | #
Are you nuts???
How do you think they got Dashle to shut the fuck up???
Guilt for his affair with Chandra Levy who they killed, sam with Scarborough. It is called blackmail and now involves Blair and the ex-pres of BP.
Wake up you moron. How do you think they get 1,000 people to sling the same exact bullshit when it is so obvious how it affects our country?
Gabe brings out the worst in a fella. back to serious commentary....
Judge the tree by it's fruit.
That which is good exposes, and that which is evil conceals.
END GOVERNMENT SECRECY NOW
Need to find more conspiracy under more rocks. Must find more, MORE, MORE!!!!
sometimes I feel like my conspiracy is TOO small. I feel I need to branch out....
Sane is right, it is a complex web. However, one thing is simple.
There are people who are bad and lie,
And there are people who are good and tell the truth.
All people on Earth fall into either of these two categories. Only you know who you really are. Or do you.............
they feel guilty for their small conspiracy. sane
Might need some male enhancement, or otherwise therapy might do just as well....
Believe it or not, there is some fool claiming to be Christ. He has a large following too. Some kinda Latin American guy. I think i'll settle for Ricky Martin instead- the lesser of two evils.
ONE place, one conspiracy, one plan. Only ONE plan.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 1:03 am | #
There is never one conspiracy. Deception, compartmentalization, layers and layers to protect the wizards.
Most people buy in to their limited role out of a small conspiracy. They are trapped and then cannot talk because they feel guilty for their small conspiracy when in actuality these guys are more pawns being used. Osama might/might not be one of these.
Atta definitely was a pawn (drug mule).
Taliban were pawns (trying to instill their will with extremist law).
etc.
Illuminati builds up a group, allows them to engage in high crimes, then after a chaos theory problem, turns the table and blames them for everything (jews in Germany, Saddam, Taliban, clinton, etc.)
You ain't got no Shroud of Turin, I got it! It's in my closet right next to my Elvis Presley sequin jumpsuit.
How far outside? And outside of what? Now that's the question....Since everything ultimately seems to run together the more you look.
INSIDE JOB. OUTSIDE HELP. THAT SIMPLE.
Osama Doesn't Hate Our Freedom
Osama was paid to make these statements, probably because he was sick or may be even dead by now. The problem is that the US fabricated new bullshit tapes on their own. The statements were real but Osama was dying. His family has huge interests in how the wars go.
I dont , and cant understand the half of it, but ...
IF we believe OSAMA did this, truly for social causes, we have not a leg to stand on, because it still means we have outside terrorism to fear.
We cant say the elites were behind it. Osama was behind it.
My friend brought this to be recently, tired of my tirades said, " does that mean we give terrorists a pass?"
We really need to clear up this discrepancy, as to 'who dunnit'. Or we are lost.
We cant keep mixing up 'terrorists' did it for bases in Saudi, and US governmetn sponsored terrorism, its just too confusing, even for me.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 12:52 am | #
OK, it is important to work in and out of the matrix. We have to communicate to people from where they are otherwise we truly are lost.
We trained Osama and taliban. They created terrorists that "hate america"
this was used as a scapegoat for 911 (even though many of the hijackers have nothing to do with osama.
Our foreign policy especially in Iraq is building a bigger scapegoat in preparation for a bigger false flag.
Ron Paul is working on marginalizing the scapegoat, so that in its absense work can begin in this country.
I have no doubt that part of that work will be a true investigation into 911.
Even if we do find the true 911 terrorists, we must address our fucked up foreign policy. It is creating more enemies and killing our kids, bankrupting our country.
sorry. back to serious commentary. see what you started Gabe??
Sonja. For the love of God, watch loose change again.
Could terrorists order the 5 pentagon anti aircraft batteries to stand down?
Did terrorists confiscate the video footage and flight recorders?
Did terrorists place strange insider trading and put options just prior to 911?
Did terrorists have Marvin Bush placed in charge of WTC?
Did terrorists throw ashes 50ft out the window more than 5 stories below the collapse line to create "demolition squibs"?
Did any of these terrorists have the ability to pilot a jet airliner, and change it's coordinance?
Did terrorists cover up the reality of WTC7?
Did terrorists manipulate the BBC to announce the WTC7 collapse BEFORE IT HAPPENED?
I have over 200 other questions written on paper that don't add up to the "terrorist" theory.
What is being said is, Osama had a beef and decided to attack, then US interests used this and planted explosives in the buildings, to further make this a big fucking deal.
It goes against Occams razor. Its too fucking much.
ONE place, one conspiracy, one plan. Only ONE plan.
Shroud of Turin with complimentary tin foil hat!
Live Long And Prosper!!
I've got the Shroud of Turin in my wardrobe. Might wear it as evening attire on my way to the Star Trek convention.
Riley : )
Please someone explain to Sonja how we can have our cake and eat it too.
Clarification: Osama had a beef and did it, or Elites did it. You cant have it both ways.
Recent solid scientific data verifies that William Shatner is actually Jesus reincarnated. Now instead of just saving earth, he is saving the whole galaxy! Go Bill!
THEY ALL DONNIT! DAMMIT!!
I am surprised that Charlie Sheen hasn't called Keifer Sutherland about the 911 stuff. Maybe he has?
We got Bruce Willis though! Bruce Rocks! He is Die Hard.
Osama Doesn't Hate Our Freedom
Osama was paid to make these statements, probably because he was sick or may be even dead by now. The problem is that the US fabricated new bullshit tapes on their own. The statements were real but Osama was dying. His family has huge interests in how the wars go.
I dont , and cant understand the half of it, but ...
IF we believe OSAMA did this, truly for social causes, we have not a leg to stand on, because it still means we have outside terrorism to fear.
We cant say the elites were behind it. Osama was behind it.
My friend brought this to be recently, tired of my tirades said, " does that mean we give terrorists a pass?"
We really need to clear up this discrepancy, as to 'who dunnit'. Or we are lost.
We cant keep mixing up 'terrorists' did it for bases in Saudi, and US governmetn sponsored terrorism, its just too confusing, even for me.
Or was it JESUS SCOTTY!! BEAM ME UP!! WILL YA!!
I'm givin' er all she's got cappin'!!
Riley
couple beers in you and you will top my boxer shorts comment. I'll look for the results in the morning.
Keep kickin' ass and taking names Sonja.
Riley
Guys!!!
You are never going to believe this! I was under the sink fixing a leaky pipe, and I shined the flashlight over into the corner and, guess what???
JESUS BONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look , this is VERY important. Either Osama bin Laden DID it for reasons of discontent, or the US and Elites did it.
This is a big problem in 911 Truth.
Osama could not have 'possibly' coordinated this attack from Afghanistan.
Its really important that we get clear on either Osama OR otherwise, because the discrepancy will kill the movement.
Its a major flaw in all the connect the dots.
sonja | 05.16.07 - 12:38 am | #
I was just showing you guys what is in the internet mainstream about the debate.
Of course I know it was not 19 guys in a cave.
But the lie is fueled by islamic fundamentalism (which we created and are funding, and expanding due to Iraq). Ron was addressing this aspect of the problem with foreign policy (valid and appropriate for the Fox crowd). Just wanted people to be aware that his answers are getting kudos from mainstream blogs.
Personally I thought he should have said, when asked about why he did not support war after 911:
"Well I support a real investigation into what happened on 911 because the administration has been avoiding an investigation for 6 years now."
But that might not have been appropriate with the crowd.
I also do not really like him name dropping Reagan 5 times.
Anonymous. Boxer shorts? Now that's fuckin funny! LOL
I don't know if I can top that.
Sonja. 911 was supposedly an act of Jihad (Holy war) - durka durka.
Islam condemns sexual immorality, alcohol, and drug use.
Mohammed Atta loved cocaine, boose, strip clubs, and had mostly German friends. Get it yet?
sane, you cant have it both ways. IE:As a matter of fact, in videotaped messages before and after 9/11, bin Laden explained his beef with the United States, ,,,
Either Bin Laden is a CIA operative, OR he actually has a beef with the US and DID do the attacks.
Edit: Paste: In several videotaped messages since 9/11 bin Laden gave very different, specific reasons for the attack, to wit: the U.S.-led embargo of humanitarian aid to Iraq in the 1990s following Gulf War I (in hopes that starving, illness-crazed Iraqis would arise to overthrow Saddam Hussein), later replaced with a corrupt and equally ineffective U.N. food-and-medicine-for-oil program....etc
Look , this is VERY important. Either Osama bin Laden DID it for reasons of discontent, or the US and Elites did it.
This is a big problem in 911 Truth.
Osama could not have 'possibly' coordinated this attack from Afghanistan.
Its really important that we get clear on either Osama OR otherwise, because the discrepancy will kill the movement.
Its a major flaw in all the connect the dots.
AEI's Fred Thompson and Newt Gingrich are waiting to pounce. THe only chance they have is for another false flag.
Given that AEI's PNAC laid the foundation for 911, AEI's candidates are just waitingg till a false flag happens, then Fred will go on the air as if in a Jerry Bruckheimer movie and act all presidential. He is already preping his speech to the American People.
He will say things like:
"I no longer can sit back and allow my country to be weak, I must run for president for the good of the nation.
"After this [false flag] attack [instigated by AEI black ops] I had to look in the the mirror and come to a messianic moment as if I was Jesus to save my fellow patriots from the terrorists that wish to kill us."
Fill in the rest, you know the story...
Jack Bauer, Jack Bauer, Jack Bauer. crowd rants!
When will the worship end?
Audience Applauds As Giuliani, Tancredo Endorse Waterboarding Torture
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During tonight’s presidential debates, candidates were asked whether they would support the use of waterboarding — a technique, defined as torture by the Justice Department, that simulates drowning and makes the subject “believe his death is imminent while ideally not causing permanent physical damage.”
Both former mayor Rudy Giuliani and Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) suggested they would support using the technique. Specifically asked about waterboarding, Giuliani said he would allow “every method [interrogators] could think of and I would support them in doing it.” Tancredo later added, “I’m looking for Jack Bauer,” referencing the television character who has used torture techniques such as suffocation and electrocution on prisoners.
The audience applauded loudly after both statements. Watch it:
During the debate last year over loosening the definition of torture, Gen. Colin Powell declared, “The world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism. To redefine Common Article 3 [of the Geneva Conventions]…would put our own troops at risk.” Earlier this year, the U.S. Army dispatched a general to tell producers of the television show 24 that its promotion of torture “was having a damaging effect on young troops.”
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Transcript:
HUME: Mayor Giuliani, the former Director of Central Intelligence, George Tenet, the current head of the CIA have both said that the most valuable intelligence tool they have had has been the information gained from what are called “enhanced interrogation techniques,” to include, presumably, waterboarding. What is your view whether such techniques should be applied in a scenario like the one I described?
GIULIANI: In the hypothetical that you gave me, which assumes that we know there is going to be another attack and these people know about it, I would tell the people who had to do the interrogation to use every method they can think of. Shouldn’t be torture, but every method they can think of.
HUME: Water boarding?
GIULIANI: I would say every method they could think of, and I would support them in doing that because I have seen — [applause] — I have seen what can happen when you make a mistake about this and I don’t want to see another 3,000 people dead in New York or any place else.
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TANCREDO: I just say that it’s almost unbelievable to listen to this in a way. We are talking about it in such a theoretical fashion. You say that nuclear devices have gone off in the United States, more are planned, and we are wondering about whether waterboarding would a bad thing to do? I’m look for Jack Bauer at that time, let me tell you. [applause] There is nothing — if you are talking about — I mean, we are the last best hope of Western Civilization. So all of the theories that go behind our activities, subsequent to these nuclear attacks going off in the United States, they go out the window. When we go under, western civilization goes under. So you better take that into account and you better do every single thing you can as President of the United States to make sure, number one, it doesn’t happen, that’s right. But, number two, you better respond in a way that makes them fearful of you, because, otherwise, you guarantee something like this will happen.
Ron Paul vs. Giuliani on the Root Causes of Terrorism
By: SilentPatriot on Tuesday, May 15th, 2007 at 8:28 PM - PDT
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When asked if 9/11 changed the American foreign policy model to "interventionalism," Rep. Ron Paul answered that it was our pre-9/11 interventionalism — and the "blowback" that ensued — that was to blame for terrorism and the 9/11 attacks. This prompted Rudy Giuliani, who maintains like George Bush that they "hate us for our freedoms," to jump in and demand Paul retract his "absurd" statement.
This is a fundamental question that Republicans — George W. Bush and Rudy Giuliani especially — simply don't understand. They don't "hate us for our freedoms." Nothing could be further from the truth. Here's what Michael Scheuer, the former station chief of the CIA's Osama Bin Laden task force, has to say:
Osama Doesn't Hate Our Freedom
Page 8: The fundamental flaw in our thinking about Bin Laden is that "Muslims hate and attack us for what we are and think, rather than what we do." Muslims are bothered by our modernity, democracy, and sexuality, but they are rarely spurred to action unless American forces encroach on their lands. It's American foreign policy that enrages Osama and al-Qaida, not American culture and society.
Page 11-13: How is the United States threatening Muslim lands? The post-9/11 crackdowns on Muslim charities have effectively ended tithing, which is one of the five pillars of Islam; our casual denunciations of "jihad" sneer at a central tenet of the Muslim faith. America supports corrupt anti-Muslim governments in Uzbekistan and China, "apostate" governments in the Middle East, and the new Christian state of East Timor. And, above all, it continues to house occupying forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's simple-minded people like Dinesh D'Souza who argue that it's our culture and "freedom" that are to blame for Islamic terrorism; it's intellectuals and people who actually know the history of the Middle East and appreciate the ramifications our foreign policy has, like reknowned historian Chalmers Johnson and Michael Scheuer to name a few, who understand the true root causes.
As a matter of fact, in videotaped messages before and after 9/11, bin Laden explained his beef with the United States.
In several videotaped messages since 9/11 bin Laden gave very different, specific reasons for the attack, to wit: the U.S.-led embargo of humanitarian aid to Iraq in the 1990s following Gulf War I (in hopes that starving, illness-crazed Iraqis would arise to overthrow Saddam Hussein), later replaced with a corrupt and equally ineffective U.N. food-and-medicine-for-oil program, which together were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children; America's unwavering Israel-first Middle-East foreign policy which has so often ignored the rights of Palestinians and which contributes to so much instability in the region, and the continued, growing presence of U.S. military bases in the Middle East, specifically in Saudi Arabia, the holiest lands in Islam.
Perhaps they will use anti-gravity electromagnetic directed pulse energy beams (or whatever the hell their called) to force super wedgie in Paul's boxer shorts while responding to questions of national import. This will again make him look foolish while grimmacing in utter anguish!
GOP Debate II: Fox Goes After Ron Paul
By: Logan Murphy @ 6:59 PM - PDT
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Was there any doubt this was going to happen?
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Wallace: "Congressman Paul, you're one of six house Republicans who back in 2002 voted against authorizing President Bush to use force in Iraq. Now you say we should pull our troops out. A recent poll found that 77% of Republicans dissaprove of the idea of setting a timetable for withdrawal. Are you running for the nomination of the wrong party?"
Paul: "You-you have to realize that the base of the Republican Party shrunk last year because of the war issue, so that percentage represents less people. If you look at 65-70% of the American people, they want us out of there, they want the war over."
As a side note, John McCain's campain has been urging supporters to spam conservative blogs to give the appearance that he won the debate.
I ordered the Norad and pentagon standown. Stop making up crazy conspiracies.
If anyone wants to watch the debate again ,fox is replaying it now.I would watch it for the Shammity shitting his pants when he had to say Ron Paul won.Now they are claiming it was guillianii-mob boss.That is what is on the faux website.Assholes I hope they burn in hell.Ron still is a winner to me.Goodnight folks
going to sleep
f.t.n.w.o
keep voting for ron paul
too tired
candtt tyyyyyyyyytyppppe
heeolopl meeeeemem
slllllllllllllllleeeeeepoop
goodbuy cruel world
BACK TO SCALAR WAVES. Got any new and unconventional uses the NWO might try with Ron Paul as potential front-runner???
check out taht msnbc poll
paul is creaming everyone else
fox lies
theyy are lying
paul is getting the votes
because he told the truth
juliani lied
all the others lied
ron hasnt lied
he may not have the 9/11 octopus view of sept. 11the 2001
but there are a lot of plane huggers
Alex is a reptillian version of the Easter bunny! Spreading colored eggs like explosive devices in the meadows of the NWO.
Being gay is wrong. Pure and simple. But people love to confuse and rationalize with the mind- no matter what the heart is saying.
I don't have cable, so am missing out on all the fun.
Riley
I think all the candidates should be thrown down into "Mel's hole". Except for Ron Paul.
Alex is a reptillian. (Just kidding)- (Not kidding about Mel's hole.)
Hey Sonja, we are not trying to beat you up with believing in God and such. But it seems that you want us to relinquish our pursuit in the interest solely of pursuing "FREEDOM". I tend to think the two go hand in hand... that's all.
Riley
who the flock does this dark and light genlemen think they are????????????????????????
they are fixing the poll
they are fixing the results
they are spinning out of the fact that paul was winning before they could fix it
im ready to low off some mfrn steam soon
they have blocked all my political comments now
You're gonna have to go deeper than that Sonja.
God is DEEP!!!
What is a mysaganist?
I embrace any homo, who embraces 911 truth. Are you gay? ( I don't mean embrace physically!) smile.
I think the candidates should just play HORSE and see who wins!
Religion is a programmed state of being, believing lies as big as the NWO lies.
So is human secularism. So now what??
so romney gets up to 27%?????????????
and they immediately put his name in fron tof the
champ
bull pucky pud whackin sphinkter pumpers
The Bible says a lot of bad stuff, you cant pick and choose what you like and dislike.
I think all these lying dicks (except Ron) should be fed into a brush chipper on national tv.
Make an example of the rewards of treason.
Gabe:I even had a fag try to tell me once that the Bible didn't say anything bad about it. HA! He shut up when I told him Leviticus 18 and 20! And let's not forget Sodom and Gommorah, or the words of Paul.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 11:09 pm | #
Dont be a jerk. Paul also was also a huge mysogynist. We are not about alientating good humans. There is only one program, freedom from oppression. Religion is a programmed state of being, believing lies as big as the NWO lies.
We stand together.
posting is getting messed up. Not sure why.
the texting says ron paul wan
i told u before sonja
yur slipping it in to my top spot
Dudes. My cookies are totally disabled. Dude, that is so bogus.
Actually AAA. The fight has and always be between Satan and Jesus Christ. We are just going to give a testimony to one or the other with our lives. In that sense, this is a pre-amble to the real conclusion and real salvation.
if i was ron i woulda punched that pionk biotch
those people are????????????????
cocksuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 05.15.07 - 11:14 pm |
Wait, Im one of those, is that a bad thing?
Just got in. Fox is reporting on the net that Guliani is the winner, true or memorex?
I dont have tv. Anyone got a link?
Hell, they might even let him get into office and then scalar wave his genitals with projected energy beam. This will cause much itching and burning and force departure from well-thought decisions, making him look utterly foolish and pitiful.
Have you hugged a Mason today?
right on
i just never heard the othe scripture strong"d like that
our fruition may only happen "in many cases" when we are allready martyr"d
which is ok with me
so the seed yeilds its fruit at 2nd coming and 2nd resurection
thats not so much biblically sound as it is a way of understanding the unanswerable
Right when Ron places his hand on the Bible, they will fry his mullet with Scalar Wave. Then they will unleash L.U.C.I.D.
Beer anyone?? While Rome is burning....
Riley
wanna bet they attack ron on his points
they will juliani him in the sphinkter
if they interview him at all
they may not have the coconuts
Precisely, AAA.
Riley
good twist on planted seed
never heard it put that way
a good thing never dies?????????????????
the Word (the truth) never comes back void?
something like that?
I won't support any Presidental candidate unless they are 100% committed to lying to the people, the destruction of Christianity, the destruction of the family, and the destruction of the Constitution.
We also need to teach children evolution as fact, help them find their "inner God", and worship the true light of Lucifer.
We should also teach children to murder animals and other children, then drink their blood, and call themselves "Christian Conservatives".
Lying must become our new National standard.
Sane, I feel stupid.I get what you mean now.I am not sure about a link yet -I will look in a min.I am waiting for them to interview Ron.
If by some cosmic twist of fate Ron Paul does win the Presidency, they will probably use the HAARP project to fry him 2 days into his term. - Gabe
Perhaps instead they will use scalar wave technology to have him "spontaneously combust" while accepting nomination!
Riley
Actually, and I hate to say this, God does let them get a way with it. He allows the truth to be cast to the ground. - Gabe.
You are correct. However, what is cast to the ground is seed that reproduces and becomes as a mighty oak tree.
Riley
Sane I do not get what you mean.
Anonymous. YES!!!!!!!
Put those fetuses in jail! Torture them! Grill them for intel under halogen lights. Rape them! NAMBLA FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!
ron 30% solid
all others are back seat drivers
hannity can puff my cigar
We should also teach Lucifer worship, verichip children, and expose them to pornography at an early age.
If you really think about it, that is exactly what they are doing.
Lock 'em up... (fetuses) that is. Take the idea of guilty before proven innocent to the MAX!!! Afterall, they are expert pre-crime statiticians.
YES SEEING HANNITY HAVE TO REPORT THAT WAS PRICELESS!
MY FAMILY ERUPTED IN CHEERS AND JUMPING UP AND DOWN AND SCREAMING AND... WELL, IT WAS FCKING WONDERFUL!
newbee | 05.15.07 - 11:21 pm | #
Is there a link yet???????????
i have taken drugs
i will be ok
sorry for the brash reckless caloused ranting
i apologize for my language
and i ask your forgiveness for losing my cool
(great name by the way). Thanks Gabe. I picked it myself!!
I think it's good to torture fetuses. How else are we going to find out what they know? (smile)
Here's the other little tid-bit of truth. Now that Ron is bringing these issues before the American public with a national audience, these assholes to include our countrymen that seemingly don't give a damn have NO EXCUSE for not being aware of the problem. And neither do the other candidates who are less than courageous, but now have first hand example of what kind of courage is needed to bring change.
Anonymous (great name by the way).
Actually, and I hate to say this, God does let them get a way with it. He allows the truth to be cast to the ground. But only until the return of Christ. The Beast will make war with the saints.
Good. I'm ready. Let's get it on.
YES SEEING HANNITY HAVE TO REPORT THAT WAS PRICELESS!
MY FAMILY ERUPTED IN CHEERS AND JUMPING UP AND DOWN AND SCREAMING AND... WELL, IT WAS FCKING WONDERFUL!
why the poll dumba.s.s.?
hannity can take my pole
If by some cosmic twist of fate Ron Paul does win the Presidency, they will probably use the HAARP project to fry him 2 days into his term.
we should also pass a bill that supports torturing the fetus.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 11:04 pm | #
LMFAO
I bet the pro-torture guys could find a way to justify this
my comments are being blocked
Anybody see the look on Hannity's face as he had to report Ron Paul in the lead of the Fox poll?
They'll probably "fix" it by tonight, but oh, how priceless!
YEEE HAAAA!!!!!!GO RON GO!!!!!!!!
TEXT AWAY FREEDOM FIGHTERS!!!!!!!
YEAH!!!!!WHOA WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!
There is NO WAY in hell they would let Ron Paul become a front-runner!! But the funny thing is...words out-live terms. God won't let the NWO get away with silencing the truth!
When Jesus comes back, will he be allowed to participate in the Presidential debate?
That was so great -- they also reported immediately after giving the poll results that Paul had generated the most press buzz there at the actual debate and that he was currently swamped with the vast majority of the reporters there.
those people are????????????????
cocksuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The word of God is now a hate crime.
OK children, the word for the day is, anti-Christ. "NEED A MOMENT?"
HAHAHAHAhaHAHAHAH RON PAUL IS WINNING THEIR OWN POLL AHAHAHAH
SEEING HANNITY NEARLY SHIT HIMSELF JUST MADE MY NIGHT.
RON PAUL IS ON TOP OF THE FOX POLL RIGHT NOW!!!!
HMMMM....SATANISM VS. PODDY MOUTHS??
WHAT'S WORSE AMERIKA????
Sane. Keen observation. Perhaps audience members are "selected". ???
What do you think?
Yup. That's where it is intended to go. And our little poddy mouth fest will look like Bingo night with the Betsy's....
"Homo phobe" is a tag word created to discredit those who support God's word, and oppose homosexuality.
I even had a fag try to tell me once that the Bible didn't say anything bad about it. HA! He shut up when I told him Leviticus 18 and 20! And let's not forget Sodom and Gommorah, or the words of Paul.
You know, pull out the fetus, tie it to a chair, halogen lights, electro shock, etc. We could probably justify anything if we really put our minds to it. Even Satanic Worship.
ron paul will suck no cock
before its time.....
Must age like fine wine.....
No really, Ron Paul will never do such a thing. Far as I can tell... Probably be criticized for being a homo-phobe!
Since apparently we are going completely over the top. I guess we should not only support abortion, even late term, but we should also pass a bill that supports torturing the fetus.
Giuliani: Suggestion 9/11 was invited is "absurd" Nick Juliano
Published: Tuesday May 15, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
Gi...bsurd_0515.html
New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who skyrocketed to political prominence in the wake of Sept. 11, heatedly refuted a suggestion by quixotic candidate Rep. Ron Paul at Tuesday night's Republican debate that American involvement in the Middle East invited hostility directed at the US from international terrorists.
"I'm suggesting we listen to the people who attacked us (on Sept. 11) and the reason they did it, and they're delighted" that US troops are in Iraq because they provide easy targets for terrorists, Paul said.
Paul was responding to a question about the origins of terrorist attacks on US soil and noted the generations-long history of US involvement in Middle East politics, including a CIA-sponsored coup to overthrow Iran's leader in 1953 and regular bombing missions in Iraq over the last decade.
"I don't think i've heard that before," Giuliani said, "and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for Sept. 11."
Paul said he was referring to what the CIA calls "blow back" in mentioning the hostility American involvement might ferment in foreign cultures.
"They don't come here to attack us because we're rich and we're free," Paul said. "They attack us because we're over there."
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That debate was so fixed it was crazy.
Romney says double the size of Gitmo and people applaud????
5 candidates say we should torture and people clap??????
Rudy (the person who obstructed any investigation into 911 by killing firefighters through the slow death of cancer) gets applause for telling Ron to apologize????
Who the fuck were those people?
i will grow up with a m-16 in my hands my friend
death to the NWO
i am not running for president
I will not be pawed at thank you
Can we trust FOX news polls? Ummm..................
no.
I am getting older now, so I don't want any of you youngin's runnin the world or gettin smart.
I was heeding Mark Koernke's "A call to arms" when you were still jacking off in junior high.
Constitution. Read it. Know it. Feel it. Believe it.
equality? any other polls?
grow up
These are my moderate comments. I will not be censored.
Or maybe while Hannity is getting fucked by a dog, Colmes Jacks off, while O'Reilly licks the toilet seat.
call all #'s
swamp them tonite
ron paul wins because he tells the truth
screw all these other liars
vote ron paul on every site from here to mars and back
Good Ron Paul poll numbers at MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18659382/
AAA. Drink some whiskey, then hit the comment page with a vengeance. Let it all hang out bro!!!!!!!!
Triple A! Triple A! Triple A!
the nice AAA is out now
may not be back for a while
sorry for the inconvenience
no offense intended
Or maybe O'Reilly jacks off while Colmes gently licks Hannity's balls- if he has any. These are the real 911 mysteries.
swamp these mthrfucker cock suc kers in their own shi.t cu.m
Tyler. Yes. A bunch of NWO secret society stooges, and one good guy (Ron Paul).
Fox spin zone. I'll bet Gulliani and Budafuco are cousins. Ha!
Alex, if you're reading this or read this before the show tomorrow, dear God friend, give them hell over this.
So few times have I been so internally angry that I've been unable to express my disgust.
Does Hannity blow Colmes? Or does Colmes blow Hannity? And when they're done, do they both blow O'Reilly?
Charlie. An insightful and heartfelt commentary. I tend to agree. (smile)
Fox has an American Idol style vote set up for the debate
http://www.foxnews.com/story/
0,2...,272493,00.html
juliani is a experiment in M-SPERM-ULTRA ASS TO MOUTH CONTROL
Guilliani talked about "facing reality". Bet he never watched Loose Change or Terrorstorm. THAT'S REALITY.
is that shit cum on your chin juliani?
here i'll wipe it off with my cock, thanks shaun!
Fuck you Guiliani you son of Gangster, motherfucker!
They just said Guilliani was the front runner in national polls. Bullshit. Americans just don't want to face reality, so they can go on living their lives of prosperity without conflict.
These are the times when praying are the only things that keep me from breaking my TV set.
everybody clap
juliani just did a clean and jerk ass to mouth and polished it clean
FUCKING 33 SECONDS. YOU HAVE TO BE SHITTING ME. YOU HAVE TO BE SHITTING ME.
it is our job to swamp the cocksuckers
our support for ron paul should sunami their spin funk
And could we perhaps maybe make the conversation a bit more intellectual, because while humor is fine, I don't think talking about rimjobs and blowjobs or anal sex is really going to help fight the NWO.
Gee Tyler. How did you guess?
ron paul will suck no cock
"I'm gonna teach you NEVER! Never to fuck with my opium."
Let's see just how long it takes H&C to replay the ron paul / rudy clip over and over.
9/11 truth
we will suck no bankster cock
ron paul is one of only two guys on that stage that does not suck bankster cock
and the other guy is suspect
all the others suck cock, take it in the ass, and suck the banksters load til the bankstercock is dry
It's not just your prowess at sucking rope that gains you the oval office. Your talents of taking it up the ass, and rim jobs are also scrutinized and assessed.
911 truth lives in Spearfish. Let it spread like wildfire.
if you suck a good cock yur in
no questions
cocksuckers
I have 3 coconuts. I am going to put Osama Bin Laden under one of them. Then I am going to move them around the table rapidly, and try to fool your eyes. Which coconut is he under?
Maybe it's time to take a serious look at the people who are moving the coconuts, instead of guessing which coconut Osama's under.
AAA! How do I get on the Bohemian Grove roster? Even the president is on it.
here we go
Anyone in Minnesota? Doing another turbine job in S. central Mn.
mr juliani
when yur taking it up the ass from the bankster buttfuckers
how does that feel?
mr mcain
we see your name on the bohemian grove roster
there are reports of cocksucking
your answer?
we all saw it
it was exactly a setup
and that cocksucker juliani put words in rons mouth
he didnt say we brought it on ourselves
he said that america better beware
in some instances we will reap what we sow
God says you will allways reap what you sow
juliani knows that 911 was a complete inside job
he prfited off the deaths
he profited off the suffering
he profits off the wars that have happened since
he puts money in the bank from the banksters everytime he lies and every
time he pulls the wool over new yorks eyes
I understand and agree, but nonetheless, they've been going OUT of their way to corner Paul and try to make him answer in a way that could be used in sound clips the rest of the week to reflect poorly on him.
Don't give any credibility to their scripted questions. Ignore them. Talk about the NWO, secret societies, treasonous laws and executive orders, and corruption.
At some point in these debates, Ron needs to quit holding back. He needs to say 911 was an inside job, and Gulliani knows more than what he is letting on. We need to Outlaw secrecy in the government, dissolve the Federal Reserve, and arrest those from secret societies.
Did anyone see the way they just tried to set up Ron Paul? That pisses me the hell off.
Ron Paul still managed to come out seeming to be logical and the more level headed where as Rudy just used the obvious set up to get something to play on the media for the next few weeks. I think it backfired on him though.
You can have a nice big house.
You just need a perfect credit score.
A 10 year solid employment history.
And a $500,000.00 down payment.
Otherwise you can just beg to live in an apartment, if they will let you. Fuck this lying scam system.
I really hope they don't nuke Austin. That would really suck. It wouldn't make sense to do that anyway.
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I wouldn't expect THEM to nuke anything along their beloved SPP corider, i.e. hwy 35 shoud be a relative safe zone (except for the invasion of large cockroaches coming soon to a city near you.....)
Ha ha! Yep. Got lot's of ammo. I think they will try to ration food with biometric verichips or something. I'll just pay for the food with my gun, and stay the night in some NWO assholes killer crib!
Houses are for pussies. Real men live on the street.
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Duh, uh, does that mean if I had a nice big house, I'd have some pussies?
Timm. At this point my advice would be- don't live near any major US city.
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The farther north I go the better the water is getting. The women are more attractive (mostly large and homely in Des Moines area, some of the worst water I ever smelled, dopers and stupid in K. C. area, for the most part). Less to bomb. I would say stay away from east to south of major population areas and military or strategic centers.........If you're less than 100 miles away from a major city, you're fucked.......The slime of these areas will invade the countryside like a swarm of giant cockroaches in times of trouble. Like no food in the corporate grocery stores.....Got lots of ammo?
Houses are for pussies. Real men live on the street.
Gotta go look at a house, im moving at the end of the month, see ya later.
This might sound weird, but I think there is something to this whole "Anunaki" thing. In his new book, "The Dragons Legacy", prince Nicolas de vere von Drakenburg describes the gene of his family lineage- which has been lab analyzed as not human. What's scary is, this guy is real fucking smart. I'm talking like 200+ IQ smart. Read his interview at Tracy Wymans website.
In John Decamps book about Satanic ritual abuse and government corruption, "The Franklin Cover up", Paul Bonnaci describes an event in which he is flown do California, and taken to a place in the woods- blindfolded. He was held at gunpoint as several people in black robes watched a man rape a 4 year old boy. As he was bleeding and screaming in pain, the man took a 44 magnum and blew his head off. Paul also described a 40 foot stone owl. But John said he didn't include that part in the book cause he thought people would not take it seriously.
Fuck Satanists. Kill them all. Many use daycare as a front. Google videos "Ted Gunderson", "John Decamp".
The government is fucking me so much, I can't believe I'm not pregnant. Where did Sane go?
Sane?
Sane..................................
Sonja. It's OK if you are anti government, as long as you go about it through proper channels. (Smile)
The last time I dedicated an ode to chaos, it was a scheduled event. Organized disorganization.
If everything is a conspiracy, which it is, then how do we make it sound rational? Google and you tube "Silent Wars".
I liked Mel Gibson in "Conspiracy theory". I think us nut cases are starting to become cool in the public eye.
Ill admit Im anti government.
If you question the official story of 911, you are labeled "anti government" by the mainstream. What a bunch of bullshit. How much more obvious can they get?
No TV in your house? That's anti American!!!
He looks better than me. You are a beautiful girl, on the inside, which is all that matters.
Too bad theres no way to live stream tonights debates. Aint got no TV in my house.
Even in the movie "Spiderman", which was a cool movie by the way, the newspaper boss is portrayed as a guy who distorts the truth. They present it in a way to soften our anger at lying media.
There will come a time, very soon, when we will need to cut the shit, and get "Braveheart" on the situation. I am not afraid, I welcome it. I ain't no "David Koresh" type Christian, you fucking ATF pussies. If you come after me, you had better write your mommas a goodbye letter, you fucking murdering bought and paid for traitors. Turn from the dark side and join the patriot truth movement!!!!!!!
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 6:17 pm | #
This is a picture of Gabe:
http://www.another9.com/uploads/...loads/
geeks.jpg
If any of you haven't watch "Money Masters", or Alex Jones "Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports", do so immediately. Then you will truly understand our financial situation.
Colonel Lute is a dumbfuck, and is about as healthy for this country as Oliver "Freedom camp" North. How about this for a new comprehensive military strategy- deploy our military against the real enemies- the US government, the corporate media, and the Committee of 300. Google videos "John Coleman".
Sane. Although I love reading your lengthy and sensible diatribes, I think you need a more effective shovel. One manufactured by Ingersoll Rand. Truth is something we must dig for, it is not handed to us. What is given to us, is corporate spoon fed lies.
The problem and solution are simple.
Problem: Our government is saturated with evil lying infiltrators.
Solution: Kill them. Strengthen Constitution, elect real leaders in honest election. OUTLAW SECRECY IN GOVERNMENT.
Any conversation based upon a foundation of lies, is a house of cards.
Colonel Lute sees an encouraging sign in the administration's recent establishment of an executive committee (EXCOMM) to oversee planning and to provide guidance for a comprehensive political-military plan. He offers three steps to follow:
Institutionalize the EXCOMM process
Prepare contingency plans that integrate civilian and military capabilities
Engage others early in the crisis--including allies, NGOs, and international organizations
Civilians?????
ExComm as in ex-communicate?????
NGO's like CFR, PNAC??????
There will come a time, very soon, when we will need to cut the shit, and get "Braveheart" on the situation. I am not afraid, I welcome it. I ain't no "David Koresh" type Christian, you fucking ATF pussies. If you come after me, you had better write your mommas a goodbye letter, you fucking murdering bought and paid for traitors. Turn from the dark side and join the patriot truth movement!!!!!!!
Foreword
The complexities of the military engagements that face the United States today demand a serious discussion of strategy, operational planning, and decision making. For the U.S. military, post-Cold War strategy has been dominated by the "two major regional contingency" and "overwhelming force" planning assumptions--that is, that we will be able to fight two nearly simultaneous regional wars and that we will conduct these wars with enough firepower to overwhelm our opponents.
These assumptions have been useful for planning responses to some threats, but they are not sufficient for today's complex international environment. Indeed, while U.S. decision makers profess to be adapting to the new challenges we face, much of the foreign policy process remains wrapped in Cold War thinking and rhetoric. As we approach the twenty-first century, we need a fresh examination of the national security structure.
In this thought-provoking report, Colonel Douglas Lute argues that the decision-making apparatus in Washington is linked more to the past than the future and that it needs an overhaul. In making his case, he examines recent deployments of U.S. forces in Bosnia, Haiti, and Somalia. In different ways, all three case studies point out major flaws in the organization and functioning of our national security apparatus. His analysis bears study, especially if we are to avoid a further widening of the inevitable gap between planners and implementers. The effects of this gap have been particularly evident for the United States. While the planning focus in Washington has been on the high end of the conflict spectrum--that is, on trying to imagine the strategic circumstances of potential war involving the United States--U.S. military forces have been decisively engaged in peace operations, humanitarian assistance, disaster relief, and other military operations at the lower end of the conflict spectrum. Our nation and our military will continue to confront--and need to address effectively--these missions.
Lute points out that our planning and implementation for crisis response remain unacceptably ad hoc. He argues that there is little or no institutionalized approach to formulate policy, develop consensus for multinational operations, or integrate civilian and military organizations in an overall effort. As one who was responsible for operations in Africa, Europe, and the Middle East, I can attest to the lack of a systematic process for developing policy for action in a crisis and providing resources. There is a belief in some departments in Washington that if you can do operations at the high end of the conflict spectrum, then you automatically can be successful at the lower end. Such misguided thinking could result in mission failure and risk unnecessary casualties. We do not need any more experiences like Somalia, where a major gap between policymaking and execution led to withdrawal of the U.S. contingent in 1994.
Colonel Lute sees an encouraging sign in the administration's recent establishment of an executive committee (EXCOMM) to oversee planning and to provide guidance for a comprehensive political-military plan. He offers three steps to follow:
Institutionalize the EXCOMM process
Prepare contingency plans that integrate civilian and military capabilities
Engage others early in the crisis--including allies, NGOs, and international organizations
I agree with Colonel Lute, and would emphasize especially the importance of the first step--that is, the need to form a civilian-military team or task force immediately, when a crisis first appears, to prepare the integrated contingency plans, coordinate action, and monitor progress. There are many allies and partners, as well as numerous agencies and nongovernmental organizations with a wide range of capabilities. We have yet to tap fully the expertise and resources available from all potential contributors. Colonel Lute's essay is an excellent beginning to a much-needed debate by those concerned with improving the way this nation responds to future crises--crises that, even as these words are written, are already looming on the horizon.
General George Joulwan, U.S. Army (Ret.)
Former Supreme Allied Commander, Europe
Also, if there is no conspiracy, then why do the elite of the world insist on saturating everything with occult symbolism?
Google videos "Michael Tsarion", "Jordan Maxwell", "Riddles in stone".
See Sane. They are putting on the condom. How much shit do we need to see before we realize we are being fucked? I mean for God's sake, our two highest offices are occupied by "DICK" and "BUSH".
I'm so sick of these bogus NWO candidates. Ron Paul is the only good one. But he will probably lose, thanks to the corporate media. I will vote for Ron Paul though. First time ever voting, first candidate worth voting for.
There is no "legal ground" on the international scene. Unless you surrender your sovereignty to the UN- which is not an official government, yet. It will be though. Who else do you think will "exercise the power of the Beast."? Speaks like a lamb (Message of Peace), acts like a Dragon?
UN- Peace through terror. Ordo de Chao. Create the chaos, provide the solution.
>>>>>> New War Czar Is Planning Dictatorial Rule
Here is the goods on this fucker! It is Step A to a total command and control of US and other countries in case of an emergency. His example of Haiti being superior to Bosnia (because we had total control) is nuts! This is a way to take away control from the people and put it in the hands of the NGO's (CFR, AEI, etc) and the UN.
I thought they might not be serious abbout the nuke false flag-naming this guy as War Czar just rased the stakes. This is a clear indication that thyey are putting the pieces together for a major false flaq!
http://www.wilsoncenter.org/subs...ubs/compl/
1.htm
Improving National Capacity to Respond to Complex Emergencies
The U.S. Experience
Douglas E. Lute
Foreword by
General George Joulwan
April 1998
A Report to the
Carnegie Commission on
Preventing Deadly Conflict
Carnegie Corporation of New York
Copyright c 1998 by Carnegie Corporation of New York.
All rights reserved.
According to the statistics provided by Ted Gunderson, who was in charge of over 300 FBI agents in California under Hoover, there are over 3 million practicing Satanists in the United States. There is also a government protected child rape ring which includes Satanic worship, mutilations, and human sacrifice.
Enough is enough. I AM GOING TO KILL THESE MOTHERFUCKERS. NOBODY HURTS CHILDREN. NOT IN MY AMERICA.
http://www.dawn.com/2007/03/10/op.htm
Lute and Pakistan
Ranking members of the Senate urged the Bush administration to launch military strikes at alleged Al Qaeda targets inside Pakistan, though Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman General Peter Pace denied such a possibility. But senior Pentagon officials added to these concerns by claiming that the coalition troops had already targeted Taliban and Al Qaeda sites inside Pakistan and that they had an agreement with Pakistan that allowed them to undertake such missions.
Worse was to follow when General Douglas Lute, chief operations officer for the JCS, appeared to confirm that US soldiers could target terrorist sites inside Pakistan, if there was an eminent threat. General James Jones, former top Nato operational commander in Afghanistan, also told the panel that US forces could legally strike across the border.
Interestingly, during the entire session, no member of the Senate spoke up for Pakistan, nor was any effort made by US officials to stop their incessant criticism of it. Instead, defence officials sat unconcerned while the legislators unleashed their guns on Pakistan.
At one point, the under-secretary for defence, Eric Edelman, said with reference to Musharraf that “it means he (Musharraf) has to face some difficult political choices at home and we have to encourage him to face up to those.” Republican Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama was even more provocative when he suggested that the US could act against Pakistan on the same legal ground used to justify the 2001 US-led invasion of Afghanistan.
Feeding the baby isn't as important as the PP comment page, Sonja. Get the hell back here.
"Red Dawn" is on AMC again. Talk about prophetic.
Somethings come up, gotta go, check ya this evening!
If I hear one more person use the words "Republican" or "Democrat" again, except for the purposes of exposure or to degrade, I will cut off their head and stick it on a pig pole in front of city hall.
Fuck Congressional approval. We didn't approve Congress! It's called "vote fraud". Google videos "Votergate".
The only politicians I approve of could be counted on one hand. Cynthia Mckinney, Ron Paul, Helen Chenoweth. Please add to this list if there are others.
Michael Moore is "damage control" for the NWO. That's why he was allowed to go mainstream.
The only way to make elections and voting honest, is to require all votes to be posted with names, addresses, phone numbers, and e-mails on the World Wide Web. That way any of us could call people at random and confirm validation. Fuck Diebold. Also you could make sure your vote is accurately counted. We could also post vote tallys and real results.
I'm no genius, this is grade school shit. Our government knows this. Fucking punk bitch motherfuckin traitors.
Sorry, he does need congressional approval:
Lute must gain congressional approval before he can assume the position. He'll likely have two deputies -- one for policy (a civilian), one for implementation (an officer).
It's pronounced Kahunas, like the Hawaiian word.
In Jewish, I think it's "hutspa". Any way, I got a pair. It's, like, totally cool. Point Break cool, dudes.
Jimmy Vaughn kicks ass.
So a new war czar that is in a higher position than JCS does not need a congressional confirmation????????
>>> AEI's Fred Thomas snubbed Rosie, now goes after Michael Moore
http://time-blog.com/
real_clear_...ds_to_mich.html
Fred Thompson Responds to Michael Moore
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Documentary filmmaker Michael Moore wasn't too happy with an op-ed Fred Thompson wrote for National Review Online criticizing Moore for taking Ground Zero workers to Cuba for free medical treatment.
Wrote Thompson:
Now, I have no expectation that Moore is going to tell the truth about Cuba or health care. I defend his right to do what he does, but Moore's talent for clever falsehoods has been too well documented. Simply calling his movies documentaries rather than works of fiction, I think, may be the biggest fiction of all.
In a letter to Thompson posted on Drudge today, Moore fired back, calling Thompson a hypocrite for reportedly enjoying a Cuban cigar now and then and challenging him to a debate.
Wrote Moore:
Our debate would provide you an opportunity to appeal to the right wing of the Republican Party by continuing to attack me; it would give me a chance to discuss health care and tell you exactly what happened in Cuba, given your apparent inters; and it would provide the American people an opportunity to see just how serious Hollywood can be, with a purported conservative and an avowed progressive Hollywood personality on stage.
All of which is preamble to Thompson's video response to Moore's challenge:
Bushes whole Presidency is like a Twix commercial. "Need a moment?"
The War in Iraq is becoming less popular, especially in the wake of 911 truth. People are seeing it as another Vietnam.
ok, no its cojones.
Cant post
Is that how you really spell "cajones"? Just wondering.
>>>>> War Czar Filled - Douglas Lute
I thought this idea was axed as it made us into a russian commie state-WTF?????
SO instead of listening to the generals on the ground, there is another layer of BS!!
Major General 8/24/2005 talking about withdrawal:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/
9f81fef2...000e2511c8.html
US general sees significant withdrawal in Iraq
By Peter Spiegel in London and Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington
Published: August 24 2005 21:46 | Last updated: August 24 2005 23:49
The US is expected to pull significant numbers of troops out of Iraq in the next 12 months in spite of the continuing violence, according to the general responsible for near-term planning in the country.
Maj Gen Douglas Lute, director of operations at US Central Command, yesterday said the reductions were part of a push by Gen John Abizaid, commander of all US troops in the region, to put the burden of defending Iraq on Iraqi forces.
Then he is a Luitenant colonel 2/9/7:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-...-
134824722.html
DEFENSE DEPARTMENT NEWS BRIEFING ON IRAQ
FEBRUARY 9, 2007
SPEAKERS: LIEUTENANT COLONEL DOUGLAS LUTE (USA),
(JOINED IN PROGRESS)
LUTE: First of all, operations to secure Baghdad are today under way. But we're really only in the very early phases of that operation. The aim, of course, is to break the cycle of sectarian violence
and ...
Now a Lt. General:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/sto...=3176644&
page=1
After a frustrating search for a new "war czar" to oversee the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, ABC News has learned that President Bush has chosen the Pentagon's director of operations, Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute, for the role.
This whole thing smells like SHIT!!!
The Communist Manifesto was actually designed by Frederick Engels, the son of a wealthy textile manufacturer. He, in turn, handed it down to Karl Marx.
The Bolshevick revolution was financed with one million dollars in gold, provided by the Rothschilds banking dynasty, through their emissary Jacob Schiff, in cooperation with the early Rockefeller version of the Council of Foreign relations.
The cold war was smoke and mirrors. All part of the original Illuminati blueprint for world domination.
This was in 1999, it was probably competing with PNAC (AEI and Brookings always compete for illuminati/nwo attention).
This should be exposed as much as PNAC!
Preventive Defense: A New Security Strategy for America
Ashton B. Carter
William J. Perry
Published by
Brookings Institution Press, March 1999
Publication Number 0-8157-1308-8
Clothcover - $24.95
Paperback - $18.95
The end of the Cold War left the United States in the fortunate position of facing no imminent threat of global war. But it also left the United States in a strategic vacuum, with no organizing principle for its national security. This book proposes a security strategy for the 21st century based on preventing new major threats to U.S. security from emerging.
Informed by the authors' service in the Pentagon during President Clinton's first term, this book identifies six major dangers to U.S. security that have the potential to grow into threats to American interests and values as ominous as the Cold War's nuclear standoff. In chapters that cover chilling dangers ranging from Russia's implosion to the rising power of China, and from proliferation of biological weapons to cyber terrorism, the authors first recount from first hand experience the Pentagon's efforts to define and prevent dangers to U.S. security since the end of the Cold War, and then advance preventive defense strategies for the future. It argues that implementing a Preventive Defense strategy will require a revolution in the way the Pentagon does business -- a revolution that is only beginning.
You don't put on a condom unless you plan to fuck.
Operation Northwoods was a foreshadowing of future events.
Now "They" are ranting about a nuclear strike against America. When it happens, I will not be surprised.
Only the president can authorize nuclear deployment. That's why he has the codes, the sub commanders do not. We are naked. This is also why the office of President is the most critical target of infiltration. Kennedy learned the hard way. He spoke for freedom, and power to the people. Just google up some of his old speeches.
Z
First of all, if the soviets didnt have the cojones to launch, how the hell is the phony AlQuaeda going to set off nukes ( as big as Hiroshima) inside the US, by what delivery system. I bet theres some guy in Spearhead SD , sitting around drinking beer and eating nachos-that actually believes this shit!
Bad News, Me thinks we have a problem:
Financed and organized by a joint Stanford-Harvard program known as the "Preventative Defense Project", and led by the hawkish former Clinton administration defense secretary William Perry, and Harvard’s Ashton Carter (another Clinton defense department official), this panel of 41 "security experts", directors of US nuclear weapons labs, and Homeland Security officials operatives are constructing a "blueprint" for the scenario that "Al-Qaeda" or another terrorist group with nuclear weapons will strike the United States.
The panel has concluded that such a terror strike would cause catastrophic destruction and death, "cause a possible disintegration of government order", halt economic activity and unravel social order itself. The overriding objective of this panel, therefore, revolves around ways to maintain "order" and control the civilian populace.
In a workshop called "The Day After", panel declared that preventing such a terror strike (similar in size to a Hiroshima-style detonation) was no longer enough, and that the "collapse of government order was so great, that a contingency plan is needed.
In an example of breathless and hawkish speculation,
Carter declared: "We have had glimpses of something like this with Hiroshima, and glimpses with 9/11 and Katrina. But those are only glimpses. If one bomb goes off, there are likely to be more to follow. This fact, that nuclear terrorism will appear as a syndrome rather than as a single episode, has major consequences".
(The chaos of all three historical incidents cited by Carter were the result of government-orchestrated criminal aggression, two of them mass murders of the domestic US population. Carter, of course, did not acknowledge this.)
Another panelist was Fred Ikle, former defense department official during the Reagan-Bush Iran/Contra era, and author of a 2006 book, "Annihilation from Within". Ikle’s book, and his work on the panel, aggressively promotes the suspension of civil liberties and the imposition of martial law.
Is this part of the eugenics plan? Talk about scaring the crap out of people! They mean to do a big fuck off slaughter.
I wonder when Alex is going to adress this?
He keeps going on and on about that guy who got arrested at the immigrant rallies, has he gone into denial? haha!
NWO tv channel. Now there is a good idea! Can we get it approved by the corporate network?
You can see me at google videos "Fuck the corporate media". I'm the guy in the Van Halen t-shirt.
AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH
Al (Slick Willy dick lick) Gores luxury mansion uses 20 times the energy resources of the average American household.
we could have a NWO channel cult like thingy
Can you guys vlog? We should go on ytoob and make vids, you can talk to each other, and lots of people listen.
Bloody mary mix. Beer. Chips n' salsa for lunch. Life could be worse at the moment.............
"Voodoo economics?"
I don't roll like Bruce Wayne. That's why I post my real name. I want the bastard to come for me! That way I can fuck their shit without wasting gas.
"Sane?"
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 4:38 pm | #
Sorry, was out sick driving my buddy's dad's ferrari and catching a cubs game.
sane, dont know what you mean. I clicked on it once, then got live stream since thru Itunes.
"Bueller?"
"Bueller?"
"Bueller?"
"Bueller?"
"Sane?"
The more you look at, and think about 911.........
The more the official story pancakes. And I mean STORY.
I am going to put on my 911 truth t-shirt, go down the street, and jump on the hoods of peoples cars screaming "911 was an inside job!"
It's the least I can do.
If I had to take a wild guess, I would say that "Loose Change" hitting the theaters will wake up America, and the result will be large scale nuclear strike against the major cities of the US. This would fulfill revelation 17.
Pleaditians, Jesus, or both. Some one help us down here! I'm asking.
sane, left column, front page of pp, you have to download livestream. It says listen live, it will auto download to whatever player you have, I get it through Itunes
sonja | 05.15.07 - 4:21 pm |
there is a site to get the past 2 days ogg files
excellent point.
Why didn't the sprinkler system extinguish the fires of WTC7? All major office buildings are required to have them.
"Pull it."- Larry Silverstien, treason profiteer
God Bless and Keep Luke.
Riley
sane, left column, front page of pp, you have to download livestream. It says listen live, it will auto download to whatever player you have, I get it through Itunes
Sonja. You don't know how happy that makes me to hear that. More power to you. Expose the NWO.
Our country is infiltrated and hijacked by scum.
google videos "John De Camp", "Kay Griggs", "Ted Gunderson", "Cathy O'Brien".
How about Silversteins alibi right out, like too weird. Who was asking anyway?
Ha, Crime and Punishment, force the criminal to implicate themselves.
anyone got the link for the AJ shows?
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Emotions are for women and therapists.
"Crush the enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women."
(Just kidding)
I signed up for a course to learn to make Gorilla movies, like on youtube. Starts June 4th.
Im going to start making movies on utoob soon.
Freemason Hall right next to the "Cop shop".
"Coincidences" are for morons.
We all need to get active like Luke and Alex. Fliers, talking to people, new ideas, songs, videos. Let's not cower in our hamster cage apartments. Let's get involved and shout the truth from the rooftops. The louder we scream, the less they can do to us. Going public is the best insurance policy.
Did you guys listen to Alex, Luke in NYC ( wearechange.org) is being threatened?
This is the nicest kid in the world, a really hard worker on 911 truth. I really feel for this guy.
sonja | 05.15.07 - 4:05 pm | #
I do not usually get too caught up in the emotions, but if anything ever happened to Luke, I really would not be able to forgive myself for my continued complicity. He is a corageous warrior in the modern information wars. He is a true patriot and a solid force eith sniper accuracy in outing the wizards.
There would be over 1,000 to take his place. Anyone with a brain should know this. And those thousand will not be 20 year old kids, they will be established patriotswho will not allow such an injustice on this soil.
Better yet, have the rally at the spearfish country club...
even more divided before and until WWIII commences.... Then people will likely follow lock-step like lemmings right over a cliff...
Riley
Anonymous | 05.15.07 - 3:57 pm | #
Jon Stewart is in the same camp as Olbermann, he made fun of Ron Paul and Cynthia McKinney. Will never forgive him for McKinney. I still like his program but it is not fair or balanced.
I think there has been some serious oversight put on the Pentagon, it is the only reason the generals are so outspoken now. Should this be the case, Buffett (his words have weight) have picked Obama or Clinton for the whitehouse.
Bill has taken over as campaign manager and he is a force to be reckoned with. Should Bush get impeached/exposed, clinton need to be exposed as well.
She has taken over to run the committee on the 9/11 air quality (WTF?)!
I didnt realize this vid came out in March, it was posted today on utooobe
If me and AAA are able to pull it off, we will have a truth rally at the park in Spearfish SD. Everyone will get a flier with treasonous laws, executive orders, and important web links.
They are threatening Luke Rodowski's life. If they threaten me, or try to hurt me or my friends, i'll kill the motherfuckers. Sraight up.
Did you guys listen to Alex, Luke in NYC ( wearechange.org) is being threatened?
This is the nicest kid in the world, a really hard worker on 911 truth. I really feel for this guy.
Good post Sonja. Now they are showing their true colors. O'Reilly was taken to court for sexual harrasment. I read the court documents. He is a NWO liar. google videos "Outfoxed". WATCH IT.
Re: I think you should apply for a job at infowars.
I think it would lose some value to do this fow work. And I am still too shallow to be a real journalist (also my grammer, spellijng suck, etc...)
Priceless stuff Sonja. I haven't seen it even if it is old. Made me get of the treadmill. I think sane is probably right. Anybody who is on any of the "big" syndicates is probably going to feed the false paradigms in some contorted way only to get us even more divided before and until WWIII commences.... Then people will likely follow lock-step like lemmings right over a cliff...
Riley
I will arrange a guest speaker spot for you in our Spearfish SD truth rally this summer.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 3:55 pm | #
I might be interested in that.
Dude.
Your so fucking good, I think you should apply for a job at infowars. If your available, I will arrange a guest speaker spot for you in our Spearfish SD truth rally this summer.
I was on yooootooobe. Check this shit out, Bill o'lielly thinks hes head of the Police State.
oooh you cant call in and say Kieth Olberman or Bills gonna send the cops to your house!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h? v=KiFHIEd3sk4
sonja | 05.15.07 - 3:51 pm | #
Olbermann has been railing on this for months, he loves replaying it.
But Olbermann does not give Ron Paul a chance and he keeps putting Dems v. Reps instead of moderates v. extremists
I was on yooootooobe. Check this shit out, Bill o'lielly thinks hes head of the Police State.
oooh you cant call in and say Kieth Olberman or Bills gonna send the cops to your house!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?
v=KiFHIEd3sk4
http://www.free-codecs.com/
for video players
Falwell dies
Blair resigns
McNulty resigns
CEO of BP Resigns
Tenet agrees to testify against Rics/Cheney on pre-war intelligence
Gonzo, Cheney, Rove are named as accomplices in attorney firings and circumventing FISA
Scarsborough and Pat Buchanon have given up on Iraq
In my factless opinion...
Some mystery patriots are working extra hours
SANE!!!
Thank God you're back, I was running out of drivel.
Give us the scoop bro. What's the skinny?
How dare Sane betray us for another comment page! I'm starting my own movement- PAS (People Against Sane)
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 3:06 pm | #
lmfao-that was good
Beware, Moderations are commented.
Sonja, what happened to the love we shared? You walk out of our lives without a word. Where are you now? Come home.
sonja, gabe, sorry was posting on the other threads
Sometimes I hear Alex talk and get a little personal on the show, and I swear he reminds me so many times of myself. I just don't (yet) have the courage that he does.
I remember listeneing to his show on Christmas Eve and he was singing "we wish you a merry christmas...", talking about how guys in the woods with lanterns were approaching and he couldn't ignore the threat.
I felt the same way. Afterall I was spending 3 hours on X-mas eve listening to his show.
Lap Dog- nice style!
google videos "Hello kitty resistance manifesto". Fight the power!
I am drinking coffee now. Here in Spearfish SD it's around 1:30 pm. How bout y'all?
Next time I see the local paper boy in the neighborhood I'm going to flip him a twenty spot and a stack full of truth fliers.
I think she went to get her meat cleaver.
Later bro.
Riley
I listen live to Alex Jones while I post comments. His soothing voice rejuvenates my battered soul.
Let every man have a beer, and discuss 911 truth. Where did Red Sonja go?
Actually, I haven't done a lot yet. But it is definately in the works. Unless I am committed to Bethesda Naval Hospital first, and decide to "throw myself out a window" like James Forestall- former Secretary of State who used to try to tell people about the alien problem.
Have a beer on me Gabe. Sometimes you have to bite the snake that bites you.
Riley : )
(Beer and coffee don't mix well)
I guess I have never really quit for the past 10 + years. Isn't 20+. But who's counting right???
3 Silversteins "late" for work on 911??? BULLSHIT.
Sorry. Got use to posting anonymously. - Riley
Real men stay home and "log on"...LOL.
I probably haven't done as much as you in this info fight. But I have been around the block. Tryed to educate several people while on active duty in the AF back in early to mid 90's (before Alex ever really got hot, I was circulating his name). I knew he would be a force to be reckoned with. I am happy to see so many others now becoming strong in the truth.
But honestly. My butt gets sore trying to keep up.
Can't seem to post for some reason. See if this works.. Had to restart my computer.
Timm. At this point my advice would be- don't live near any major US city.
Work is for pussies. Real men stay home and "log on".
I really hope they don't nuke Austin. That would really suck. It wouldn't make sense to do that anyway.
Riley. Running from your problems won't help, son. Get off the treadmill and print up some 911 truth fliers.
FBI guy eludes to nuclear strike in America by "terrorists". Good morning everyone, don't forget to order your chemical suits. Front page news PP
Anyway, coffee is on. I am restless. Can't sit at the computer for long. Back on the treadmill...
Riley
How dare Sane betray us for another comment page! I'm starting my own movement- PAS (People Against Sane)
LOL. That's funny stuff Gabe!
Actually, triple A was not present. But that does not exclude his involvement. A movie called "Loose Gabe" will be released in theaters soon, narrated by Charlie Sheen. Hopefully this will answer many questions regarding the infamous evening of May 14 in Spearfish SD.
Sane has been flipping between comments page 16 & 17. Must be taking a nap right now....
He must have had to work, or go outside.
Alex is the Easter bunny......
Where did Sane go? Sane, did you go to the dark side? Come back Sane, we need you.
Video footage shows the can of beer flying into my right hand from over the bay. However, similar footage from the same location shows no visible can of beer. Some witnesses seem scripted. - Gabe.
I blame triple AAA. Gabe pancaked into his own footprint with no apparent squibs. It was nonetheless an inside job. Triple AAA is responsible no doubt!
I don't know what I was thinking. I just like talking to people who know what the hell is going on. I can't talk to the sheep, they are clueless. But I have woken up many people. Recently Bruce Willis learned the truth. I was like him, angry at terrorists. Now I realize that I was the victim of mainstream corporate media propaganda.
Im having zero luck with those mvies sane, theyre opening as audio in quiktime, even though I have a movie player, no sound either, arent computers grand.
haHAHAHAAHAHA! GABE, you also thought I might be an alien, it was late.....
Popular mechanics did an article on me.
After consuming many beers last night, my structural integrity was compramised, and I could no longer hold the weight. Once my top portion gave way, the rest of my body conceded in a pancake collapse into it's own footprint.
Video footage shows the can of beer flying into my right hand from over the bay. However, similar footage from the same location shows no visible can of beer. Some witnesses seem scripted.
Even if the steel supposedly melted, the "weight" that supposedly caused the pancake is the same weight that had been supported for 30 years+ by the same interwoven steel and concrete mesh.
50 ft. long Demolition squibs are visible 5 stories below the collapse line. Marvin Bush was in charge of WTC, during, and prior to 911.
I could go on for days. 600+ unanswered questions.
Sorry, kinda drunk last night.
I live in Spearfish South Dakota. Used to live in Seattle for 20 years.
Joe Cortez.
"As a man thinketh, so is he."
I don't care if the whole fucking world plunges into degeneracy. I will fight for what is right.
Wow, Falwells dead.
gday sane
Those were good analogies that Alex and Michael Rivero were discussing today. That a country's borders are like the waterproof bulkheads on a ship or fireproof doors in a building. If part of the ship or building is flooded or destroyed, the rest of the structure is not affected. Good for explaining to people who think that borderless global government is a good thing.
fantastic ideals people trick you into accepting.
-Joe
Fantastic ideals are what have kept this country together. People are about to find that out. We are slipping into a nation of degeneration...
New Videos show Steel Mysteriously Melting during collapse
http://www.mirrors.org/historica...ter/wtc/
ras.avi
16 seconds in - obvious explosions
22 seconds in steel mysteriously melts
http://www.mirrors.org/historica...apse%5b1%
5d.avi
2:20 Steel beam on the right of the building in tact
2:34 Steel beem at least 150 feet tall mysteriously melts
Ask Questions / Demand Answers
"Does Monogamy Spell Monotony?"
Who is this Henry Makow fellow?
Spouting shiny ideals is all this guy is really making... wait, going out with WOMEN makes you a homosexual? Right...
No, whores, adultery and fornication have been around since vaginas and penises have been around. This is why it is condemned in the bible. This is the sad reason why orphanages exist. This is why you hear of all the clergy scandals with nuns and little boys. The church likes to push shiny ideals, while sliding its inconsistencies under the rug.
"Monogamy" is a real nice word. Wouldn't it be nice if husbands just stayed with one wife instead of cheating and/or sleeping around? And conversely, wouldn't it be nice if women wouldn't even be slutty whores and stick with one man?
Infidelity and fornication has always been around. It's just that in the "good ol ' days" the pressure to stay and not divorce was so great that shit like infidelity, affairs and sexual activity with the same sex was neatly kept in the closet. Now, people are given more freedom to choose with whom to stay with and whether or not they want to express homosexuality, and they're doing just that.
Sorry, it's the idea of that nice house with a picket fence that's a "lie." Scratch beneath the surface and you'll see it's just a facade.
Humans aren't above animals. We're as horny and as uncontrollable as animals. It is the natural order of things for the female to seek security (money, protection, a meal ticket), get pregnant, give birth and feed young, while the brutish male goes and fucks every female he can. The idea of "marriage, monogamy and fidelity to one partner" is an idea the controlling church has tried to drill into the citizens of this nation since its inception. Think about it. The Illuminati wants only ITS families to flourish, limiting others. To do this they employ that good ol' instrument of mass-communication to scare people into submission. I'm pretty sure they're responsible for pumping the sexual world full of bugs to kill off and limit the petty peasants.
Reality is reality anyway you slice it. You can either face it, or keep diluding yourself with ideals. The reason people are unhappy in this world (ie, after a divorce, infidelity, etc..) is because life has failed to fit that much-cherished ideal. The lies they fed you at sunday school and couples conventions don't work in the face of reality. When reality bites, it really hurts. Don't want to hurt? Base judgment off of real-life situations, not the fantastic ideals people trick you into accepting.
On a more serious note, assuming aliens exist at all then what would be their purpose of pussyfooting around with us and not taking what they wanted right now? The concensus is that they would have to be millions or billions of years more advanced than we are so our very existance might be proof of their nonexistance. I don't buy the good alien/bad alien story because for that to occur, both alien species would have to be approximately the same age and level in technological advancement. How is this possible unless they both came from the exact same planet from the same race? This is also assuming that these 2 races are the only aliens out there which gets blown out the window as soon as you say that any alien exists: there must be another that is more advanced. If you find one, there's another, and another, and another. There's only 2 conclusions that seem remotely possible to me - aliens don't exist OR they are waiting to reveal themselves to us when we grow up.
Crap, I need a massage and it appears none of you NWO freaks live in my neigborhood, or wont say.
Im going to watch a real world movie and try to give the brain a rest for now.
Tomarrow is a new day.
You know that stupid Makow article is STill on the front page! sheesh!
LOL means laughing out loud. Ive been called many thing but not an alien!
Sonja. Don't stand down. Comment.
Call me stupid. does LOL mean lots of love, or somethin else? I love all you guys.
lol!
Sonja. You are extremely smart.
You are making alot of the rules. What do you want us to say? Remember, don't try to hit me, hit me.
What? One of WHO? Because I went to make a Tuna sandwich? Too many beers , keep a straight head man! Im not a fucking alien, shit.
You know my girfriend says there is mind control inside the conspiracy theory program itself, that makes US lose our minds. How's that for some real deal conspiracy shit.
Booby Lover.
Umm......... probably not. Good to see you in the right place though.
ok. This is too much. Can i ask real world questions? Sane age- city-
Gabriel age- city?
Just curious.
Fuck it. Sonja- don't let them get you......
Sonja. Can't believe your not one of them. Don't mess with me. I am on edge.
My personal opinion is that there are good aliens and bad aliens and the bad ones fuck with us for a while, then a powerful good one comes in and cleans up the mes-like I said my knowledge is limited.
sane | 05.15.07 - 2:39 am | #
I've come to the conclusion that the aliens are as much a slave to their technology as we are. Even with their enormous eyes, they have to rely on mediocre pattern recognition technology. This is the only logical explanation of why all human abductees are fugly. They can't see good. If I was an alien, I'd be abducting some fine ass honeys with big boobies.
Intel would tend to conclude that the grays were a creation of the Reptillians.
I went to make a Tuna/mercury sandwich, solved the alien mystery in my absence?
Wake up America !! A zionist jew wants to take your arms. Tell the pric* to move to Israel.
If Alex Jones is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Love the truth.
More stuff to consider, she seems credible and bridges the gap in the child sex blackmail shit that made Blair/BP head resign:
http://
www.reflectionsinthenight...grey_aliens.htm
Lynne's take on it:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6776/L...Pentagon-
Aliens
The alien question is the "DEAL". Our leaders know this.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 2:44 am | #
I have a different opinion. I think that the aliens are a limited threat, but they might have coerced powerful elites (or powerful elites use them to coerce other elites).
The alien interviews usually involve interpreters that can make everything up and add to the deception.
The shit usually scares the heads of state to such a level that they turn the whole thig over to unscrupulous agencies/people.
I think that the whole thing needs to be exposed as it is a way to manipulate us as to what the threat is or is not.
And in the meantime, we should not be distracted on the way to truth.
If even 1% of alien stuff is real, what does that mean? (Connect dots)
Sane. Thanks for commenting on that. You are the man.
Unafraid. The alien question is the "DEAL". Our leaders know this.
I respect you for giving a real response to a real question.
Sonja. After 911, I was angry at "terrorists" and believed we should get them.
Now, I think differently.
Thanks to Alex Jones, Paul Joseph Watson, Charlie Sheen, and other patriots.
Sane. As your friend, I highly encourage you to study alien stuff. It will help you to fill in missing pieces.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 2:33 am | #
I do about 15% alien research. I do think it is helpful, but unlike the 911 stuff, the alien stuff is 10% true and 90% disinformation-so it is hard to get a good grasp and requires so much research. The 911 stuff is pretty much easy to figure out.
The elite's manipulating economies and warss is also pretty easy to see.
My personal opinion is that there are good aliens and bad aliens and the bad ones fuck with us for a while, then a powerful good one comes in and cleans up the mes-like I said my knowledge is limited.
I also think the good aliens are tired of bailing us out because we cater to the bad aliens material gifts. So I think it time we take care of things on our own and stop giving in to short term pleasures that grant us long term suffering.
I think this theory parallels the old/;new testaments and the Quoran, etc.
Sonja, when I first heard MJ-12 by William Cooper in 1989, I took it to an Air force pilot. He said "Where the hell did you get this?"
He flew many regular patterns over Bermuda triangle, and described huge lights moving fast under water. His CO told him and his crew not to worry, and to keep it quiet.
Gabriel, I was a brainwashed liberal until a few months ago, but I knew from day on 911 was a lie. I worked hard on this and thought I was basically alone, and was for a long time.
Its weird. I went to Peru and did a hallucinagen called ayahuasca. When /i came back I was all up on peace and love, and two months later my politics had changed dramatically. Im not into Jesus and all that. I dont know how the veil came down. Now I have few friends who dont think Im nuts.
Light travels at roughly 186,000 miles per second.
Sane. As your friend, I highly encourage you to study alien stuff. It will help you to fill in missing pieces. You know me well enough by now, I ain't a nut.
By the way, if there are no aliens, then we are the first aliens (Moon landing, sattelites)?
Ill watch it, I just bookmarked it. But you know, I used to sail and talked to several NASA giys who were retired out on the high seas. They specifically denied knowledge of any alien contact, and everyone i know in Los alamos does not claim any knowledge of alien contact. You would think Somebody other than a few would have some clearance.
Ill look at it, but Im worried about getting brainwashed by it.
sonja | 05.15.07 - 2:26 am | #
Not a chance, unless you were previously programmed. It is only a trigger, no way is it a brainwashing tool. Brainwashing is most effective with shock/drugs/total environment/sensory deprivation. This has none of that.
Sonja. If you admit that you are susceptible to brainwashing, then you are a candidate. Be strong girl- aim the mirror back at them.
Sane. Tell me what you know about UFO's and extra-terrestrial life.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 2:16 am | #
Of course I also know that there are attempts to create alien hoaxes as well:
Read Pentagon Aliens and Mauri
Sonja. The fiber optics was disected in the 1960's, at Los Alamos. There are many levels of security.
DOUBT? Go to Dulce New Mexico, and attempt to access underground facilities there. Watch Phil Schneider, it's real.
sane
youre getting into 'advanced' NWO triggers for me, haha just as I was bragging. Ill look at it, but Im worried about getting brainwashed by it.
Sane. Tell me what you know about UFO's and extra-terrestrial life.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 2:16 am | #
not much, but here are a few documentaries I liked:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...619647165618165
http://video.google.com/
videopla...499324182317197
If we fail to understand and identify the alien connection, we will miss over half of the intel. I am not angry that Alex does not address this- in fact, I support him. To do so would immediately discredit what we are trying to do.
Sorry love, I live here in New Mex and know many people high up in Los Alamos, some in the highest levels of security nuke tech, they have no knowledge of aliens, even though they all agree 911 was an inside job.
sonja | 05.15.07 - 2:16 am | #
MK Ultra Monarch programming involves sending out triggers (phone, news, presidential speeches and TV ADS). This looks like a trigger with a commercial cover (meow mix, head on, etc.)
It's the same as 911. The more you think about it, the more goofy the official story is. And I mean "Story".
The reason people cannot have an intelligent conversation, is because we have all been lied to.
TRAINED MILITARY PERSONEL DO NOT MISTAKE DOWNED DISC CRAFT FOR "MOGUL PROJECTS" AND MONKEYS IN FUNNY SUITS.
Fiber Optics is a direct result of Los Alamos Labs disecting alien tech.
sonja | 05.15.07 - 2:16 am | #
Notice the underground train, going into the city, then pans out to the civilians oblivious to nuke energy under them. Then there is some 5 digit code with the steps (could change at the right moment).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areva
#1 nuke energy supplier in the us, look at their building. Mines in Niger. These guys definitely need to be looked at
sane
Its raw material going to nuclear plants, being converted to energy used to power a club or bar or something.
Im missing the point.
Sane. Tell me what you know about UFO's and extra-terrestrial life.
More about Avena:
http://www.latitude38.com/letter...ters/
200301.htm
WHAT ABOUT LE DEFI?
I'm just back from Auckland and the Viaduct Basin, where the America's Cup challengers are based. Speaking of environmental controversies, the locals were more upset with the French boat Le Defi Areva than OneWorld. The Kiwis, who have a strong nuclear-free stance, certainly haven't forgotten that about 15 years ago the French government sent some agents to Auckland with instructions to blow up Greenpeace's Rainbow Warrior. They did, and killed one of the environmentalists in the process. The French were infuriated at Rainbow Warrior because it had been up in French Polynesia interfering with their nuclear testing at Mururoa.
When it was learned that this year's French entry was going to be funded by the backbone of the French nuclear industry, a lot of environmentalists got angry. And what really added fuel to the fire is that Areva decided to have their boat painted a color that can best be described as 'radioactive yellow'.
Eric Panning
San Francisco
Eric - We happened to be in Auckland when the French exploded an underwater bomb, sinking the Rainbow Warrior at the dock. The Kiwis were furious, both that the French would do such a thing, and that they would do it in their sovereign country.
It's one of the strangest things in this strange America's Cup, but we agree that the only explanation for Areva having painted their boat "radioactive yellow" was to say "Fuck you!" to the Kiwis. Bizarre move, bizarre color - one that probably caused half the crew to go blind. The French, of course, are quite proud of their nuclear power industry, which, if we're not mistaken, has been providing over 75% of their country's energy needs without a single Chernobyl or Three Mile Island-type incident. At least so far.
There are also constant commercials for "male enhancement" (As if we needed any), and pet chipping.
I can never link anything twice on this board , the links break up and show a bad url in paste.
Guess who is a member of the trilateral commission:
Anne Lauvergeon, Chairman of the Executive Board, Areva (company made by commercial), Paris
I am amazed at the knowledge of people like you and Sane. My talent is the Bible. I was not raised religious, I just read it for myself.
We are all in this together. Whatever you can contribute is appreciated.
I did more than read too. I have been involved in miracles. God is very real. Life is good.
Alex Jones is a good person.
sane | 05.15.07 - 1:53 am | #
Shit how long have you guys been seeing this commercial where you are? This has been on in Florida for at least 6 months to a year regularly.
sane, its very fast but it looks like recycling of nuke waste to china, or transporting nuke teck overseas. sorry, maybe Im Not that good.
sonja | 05.15.07 - 2:00 am | #
???
Ok I'll break down what I see and hear.
#1- the music is perfect MK Ultra shit "funky town"
Won't you take me to...
#2-shows ra materials being transported by ship to some place on the globe.
#3-shows refining the materials for nuke energy (or other nuke stuff)
#4-shows the factory "connecting" with a city's main artery
#5-shows a tankedr truck going into the city that the nuke factory is connected to then zooms out to innocent civilians....
#6 is probably in the monarch program...(maybe the steps are some code)
Ahead of PP? Damn. That's better than me.
Im not bragging, sorry for that boast. I watch everything about 911 and spend hours watching news as it occurs, all over the place. Im an avid youtube junkie.
Alex should hire me as a researcher, but he cant really pay, I think. Plus Id kick ass over things like Makow.
In the early 1990's, I wrote a paper on how America may very well be the Babylon in the Bible.
One world, humanism.
Worlds largest importer
Purple, linen, and scarlet (Blue, white, red)
Richest nation on earth
Controlled by Jesuits
Statue of Liberty is Samiramus
Many tounges, one language
Burned with fire (nukes)
Merchants weep
Deceived Earth with her sorceries
Her? America is referred to in "female"
sane, its very fast but it looks like recycling of nuke waste to china, or transporting nuke teck overseas. sorry, maybe Im Not that good.
Also pakistan is ripe for a coup:
they are a nuke power and they are the base for CIA/ISI/Al Qaeda.
No one looking into this?
NSA/Good CIA/FBI are ou dealing with this stuff?
Have you looked at the nuke commercial????
What are our taxes going to???
Didn't you take an oath on the constitution???
All enemies foreign and domestic!
Ahead of PP? Damn. That's better than me.
Sane, me and triple A been wondering where you get all that info?
What you got- a command center?
Here is the video in french-SONJA WHAT DO YOU SEE????????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h? v=E3B__ovj2jU
sane | 05.15.07 - 1:50 am | #
So far they ran it twice that I know of and each time it made me sick, because the English mentions the name of nuke components (cheney's yellow cake, etc.).
Why the fuck are they showing this shit during the same 48 hours that Wolf is talking about nuke attacks??????????
Sonja.
The funny thing about the disclosure project is, it didn't go too main stream. If it was a black op, it would have been all over CNN.
In 1995 over Lake Steven WA. I saw a "light" do a vertical leap of over 3 miles in less than one tenth of a second. Wagon wheels and horses to computers and sattelites in less than 100 years?
Im usually weeks ahead of PP. That rumsfeld article today? The Chyron of Bush Resigns? I posted them way ahead of PP.
Here is the video in french-SONJA WHAT DO YOU SEE????????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h?
v=E3B__ovj2jU
Sane. Sorry if I didn't explain, almost 12 beers.
Anyway, I am very hopeful. This was all predicted, and we are on the side of the good guys!!!
The Bible confirms the saints make war with the Beast- so I am ready for a good fight. And guess what- we win!!!!
Also Christ returns to Earth, commanding the hosts of Heaven. (Ready for some real Tech?)
Ive seen the Disclosure Project. You all dont believe me when I say Im the most informed female researcher on the planet!
LOL
http://www.commondreams.org/news...007/0514-
02.htm
Take some Tylenol and get up to speed.
google videos "Phil Schneider", "The Disclosure Project".
Nuclear submarines will launch bombs of various destructive power against the major cities of Texas. Any where you go in the US as far as small towns will be safe- only for a short while.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 1:34 am | #
Dude, I do not mean to be a dick, but in my opinion, that thinking is counterproductive. If it is true, who cares, the world is over anyway. If it is not, that thinking distracts from more realistic false flags and ways to expose them.
Fallout is a bitch, and everyone knows it.
BTW-anyone see the commercial for the nuke energy company? It is like an MK Ultra trigger to build nukes. Holy shit-IT FUCKING IS-SOMEONE FIND THAT FUCKING COMMERCIAL IT EVEN SHOWS THE TARGETS FUCK!!!!
Sonja. You have been deliberately kept ignorant of higher technology and current events.
There are over 150 large underground cities in the US, on average 5900 ft. below the surface.
We have not needed fossil fuels for over 30 years.
We are currently in possession of technology that makes all of our problems irrelevant. We meaning "They".
Goddam I get a headache thinking about this
DO NOT WATCH THIS if you are faint of heart, living with your head in the sand, or think for a second that we are winning the war in Iraq. American lives, born here, raised by us, taken away to fight in the sand, and to die on video by their unknown enemy: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6...ew?
i=6caab35cca
Rail cars are already outfitted with guillotines.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 1:32 am | #
I know about the NWO French Revolution vision, I just do not think the fear of the elites is that strong to ok a major city nuke strike and it is not necessary. They can say they diverted a major city strike with NSA intelligence and helped to caused the explosion outside a major city. This will help to give NSA, police more and more power. They have not prepared enough to move that quickly to total takeover (in my opinion). I think there is another stage first-they have been trying it for 4 years, but there has been too much exposure.
The take-down of America is not an attack. It is a planned event of mathematical certainty.
But not East Coast, because the fallout will afect them, it has to be cities politicians dont live in.
I also think it will be less populated, much mor control of enviromental fall out and financial disaster, lke the MARKET dropping through the floor
Hey Gabe, before I go, it's Riley Smith. I have posted before. Just thought it would be fun to go anony for awhile.... Had a little time to post this eve.
Nuclear submarines will launch bombs of various destructive power against the major cities of Texas. Any where you go in the US as far as small towns will be safe- only for a short while.
I am concerned about where!
sonja | 05.15.07 - 1:29 am | #
You need to find out about the drills to know where. (shit I ain't that smart-I would be yellin and screamin)
Even the sub-elites (silverstein, ashcroft, etc. do not know where until the day of/night before and it is just a general location.
Sonja. It's good to see you are reading the signs. Yes, "they" have been talking alot about nuclear strike.
Sane. Nice wishful thinking. The nuke strikes will occur in heavily populated dense cities, devastating the hope and spirit of America. Following will be the round up of "dissidents" (us). Rail cars are already outfitted with guillotines.
For more info on the fucked up drills and what cities to worry about, go here:
http://falseflagnews.com/home
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...alert-
iran.html
Do you think they would do Texas?
sane, I read everything, Ive been on all night. I didnt miss what you wrote.
Remember I said early in the day, I woke up this morning and thought, they are going to nuke us.
I am rarely, but sometimes wrong about shit.
this was before you posted about Wolf B's nuke flags etc behind the screen.
I am concerned about where!
Time to buy a map, and some colored tacks.
Major cities, locations of "freedom camps", etc.
You think it will be uninhabited? Like where?
sonja | 05.15.07 - 1:22 am | #
Sorry not completely uninhabited, just lightly inhabited, don't know where. I doubt it will be a major city (save for NO, that might be why they do not want to rebuild-or somewhere in CA-insurance companies are already pulling out).
I dont think its a game, thats my point. I think to many others its like big fun conspirac theory, but THIS time, and its all over the news, they are going to use nukes. I cant get my friends to think IM serious.
Good night to anonymous.
Am I the only one using their real name?
How about numbers 40 degree latitude thing. Germany? offshore?
sonja | 05.15.07 - 1:18 am | #
There have been so many activities that have happened outside the 40 dregrees. It should be given attention, but not all attention.
Here is what I said earlier about your asking me my opinion of women and NWO:
Im not going to relinquish that power of voice because allegedly I should bow to the male in his infinate wisdom, which is certainly not working for us, our sons and daughters -so far.
sonja | 05.14.07 - 10:55 pm | #
I agree with pretty much everything you wrote, thought it is pretty much common knowledge the strength that women have. I believe it might stem from their motherly instincts. A man is told to not let tragedy affect them and they are told to move on. When a woman's child has died, no rules apply. This is an axiom that the NWO cannot cope with. Their idea of removing God's morals from us is hindered by the mother's instincts that bypass all mind control (sure they do the MK research on women to drown their children-but it is not universal).
Cindy Sheehan, 911 widows, etc.
Kathy Griggs believes the NWO will remove this threat by cloning instead of natural child birth.
sane | 05.14.07 - 11:03 pm | #
sane
What am worried about is what city and how many people will die.
You think it will be uninhabited? Like where?
Sonja. If you think we think it's a game, you haven't been around here long enough.
We are dead serious.
I got over the fear along time ago.
I believe the nuke strike will occur in at least one, if not many major cities in the US- followed by martial Law- ran by FEMA under executive orders #10995-#12919.
sane, cant do the link, recent comments are interfering with flow.
Seriously , WHERE? Dont you think this is important? How about numbers 40 degree latitude thing. Germany? offshore?
Its not really a game, we need to think about WHEN and WHERE.
sonja | 05.15.07 - 1:10 am | #
I am pretty confident that 24 (like the lone gunman for 911) lays out the plan. I think it was season 2. The admin will just do a false flag in an uninhabited area surrounded by fucked up drills to say-see told you al qaeda had nukes, now run to the camps.
The people that have been planning it are the same ones that pulled the strings during 911. Also, their are so many advocacy groups monitoring the market all over the world to find these fucked up insiders. Our defenses (true patriots awareness) were down on 911, now they are peaking.
As far as the keys-watch the movie-The Soldier (same thing-fact/fiction) it is an eye opener for what is going on today and it was made over 20 years ago.
If you want to know more about trying to occupy a country or what the Mid East is all about, see The Beast and Lawrence of Arabia.
Everyone have a good a restful night! Gabe, you better wear a nutcup! Sonja is one tough cookie...
Logic is only sound when it is tempered with reason, love, and forgiveness.
Left and right brain- both must agree.
Nope, not a game Sonja. Just a forgone conclusion. Ever watched the hyped series 24. They are gearing up everywhere. We are just letting off some steam. Kickin' it a bit. Trying to lighten things up with the impending doom you know!
God knows that many of the people here have been trying to figure a way to avert such a crisis. By getting the word out, we have probably done as much several fold...
Dude, I love quarter pounders. And everything else..............
I have a strong constitution. I like fast food, pizza, 7-eleven, Rockstar, whatever. Like steak and bacon and eggs too.
do not let the fear suspend logic...
sane | 05.15.07 - 12:42 am | #
Well put. Fear is a hot commodity these days. I'm optimistic this is going to blow up in their faces and they'll be exposed to the point that the majority will fully let go their fears and start following logic. When that happens, truth, ethics, and freedom will be reborn. In the meantime, can someone grab a shovel and help me dig out this friggin fallout shelter?
I was just joking sane. I rarely go to MICKEY DEEZ!
You know, we talk about this nuke attack , we kinda know its coming, but the real implications are grave.
I was talking for real today with a friend, we live in New Mexico, you know..Los Alamos, White Sands, Area 51. she said , couldnt it happen here?
We started thinking about where, after all it's nukes, so DC and NTC are not an option being the powers live there, so where?
This is important to think about as it will happen before fall.
Its not really a game, we need to think about WHEN and WHERE.
Better get you a double quarter-pounder to achieve an enlightedned state of mind before Sonja pounds you right in the kisser.
The nuke key thing.
The source I heard it from was a nuclear sub commander.
Lord knows I always pay tribute to the golden arches.
Anonymous | 05.15.07 - 1:01 am | #
stop eating that for 2 weeks, then try it again-you will puke. I have tested this myself and have eaten at least a thousand big mac's in my life.
But I do think it is important that we be honest about our view of male and female dynamics. It's good to talk things over. Especially when both views are represented, as Sonja is doing here.
sonja; no comment on this?
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../?
a=26111#76044
I like McDonald's.
Your comment Gabe about men coming first WAS a bit over the top. Few hotdogs short of a weenie roast!
I'm sorry Sonja. I have some primal instincts which need "fine tuning". Yes, we should listen to women, and respect their opinions.
We are so conditioned to need a McDonald's sign to know who we are. sane
Now who is doing the drinking??? Lord knows I always pay tribute to the golden arches.
Do you want to know what the matrix is, NEO? Great movie- we should all wake up to the truth.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 12:50 am | #
Like most stuff on tv/in movies there are huints and distortions.
There is a matrix, true. But it is a total house of cards. In the movie, they made it look like this whole impossible enemy.
It is simple mind fucking and once awake (not hard to do with all the BS flying around), you are always awake.
The problem then comes to create a real reality and stay grounded in it. We no longer can depen d on gov, official stories,etc. and it becomes difficult to depend on these previous foundations. We have to build our own newly.
Sometimes I have to talk with many people to get my head straight, or look at the sun/mountains/grass/etc. We are so conditioned to need a McDonald's sign to know who we are. Just look at a tree, a bird, you will know who you are.
See, I told you I would be flying
Anyway back to reality...
Matrix-nice eye opener
Also...
Tool for NWO to scare people into submission as the info was available anyway.
I am currently one beer shy of having knocked back a half rack. But I am thankful for friends and allies on PP.
(evil voice) I shall return power to the Senate after I quell the rebellion.........
Anyway, regarding the nuke thingy....
Everyone is talking basically the same thing.
Survey sayz - The only people that want to nuke the US is our crumbling administration + NWO provocation (whatever that form may be) and inside handlers - Ultimately, we still fuck ourselves!!!
If men behaved righteously, women would have no need to rebel, or seek other alternatives.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 12:44 am | #
Rebel against what? This comment assumes we have someone to rebel against, as if owned!
Pathetic. Arent you rebelling against NWO control? So, if the NWO treated you right, perhaps you can just bow down to your slave masters, accept your SOMA drug of being taken care of and go to sleep.
It really sounds like slave masters. "If we treated them right they would not rebel"
Im fucking losing my mind here with this.
Are women free individuals, able to live without a MALE mindset of possession, or are we simply extentions of you? WTF?
Sonja, YES. That was my point.
It is an inside job. The NWO has the nuke keys- not WE THE PEOPLE.
We are being duped. The nuke codes must be given by the President- who is the major puppet of the NWO club.
Remember, Gabe has had a few beers by now... Probably more than a few.
WASHINGTON - Senate Democrats are staging a dramatic anti-war vote this week, with moderates collaborating behind closed doors on legislation that could call on President Bush to rethink his war strategy.
Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) announced Monday that members will decide whether to cut off money for the Iraq war next year, as well as consider a softer proposal calling for troops to leave this fall. The two measures would be offered as amendments to a water projects funding bill to be debated this week.
"The American people deserve to have the Senate go on record about whether or not it wants to end our misguided mission in Iraq and safely redeploy our brave troops," said Feingold, D-Wis.
I can hear televisions across the country "coming up on CSPAN, senate lawmakers will disguss issues regarding the proposed water projects funding bill ...I'll be there for you, cause you're there for me toooooooo".
Because the male comes first, and is dominant, the bulk of the blame lies with him.
If men behaved righteously, women would have no need to rebel, or seek other alternatives.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.15.07 - 12:44 am | #
I am staying AWAY from you and Sonja on this one....
Sane. Somewhere between the two of us is the answer.
Do not construe my urgency for fear. I grew up watching Arabs burn American flags (on the mainstream media) CLUE.
We are all being positioned against each other. The world is a lab for a giant psyop. 4th Beast is NWO.
Do you want to know what the matrix is, NEO? Great movie- we should all wake up to the truth.
If THE PEOPLE don't know who weilds the nuke keys, then WE THE PEOPLE are truly fucked.
It is NOT an outside attack. It will not be terrorists. The obvious warning signs are all around, they do it every time.
sonja | 05.15.07 - 12:44 am | #
Exactly right! Do terrorists have the power to make Wolf Blitzer prepare us for a nuke attack?
Do terrorists have the power to make us run drills that bring down our defenses?
Do terrorists have the power to make the movies The Siege, Sum of all fears, etc.?
Do terrorists have the power to put AEI pundits on 24/7 to spew BS iran claims?
The only people that want to nuke the US is our crumbling administration.
I think Gabe is with you on the nuke thingy Sonja...
I'm grounded again. I don't know how you do it every day without exploding, but I give you creds for the effort man.
Take it back NOW | 05.15.07 - 12:26 am | #
Dude, you got a really great head on your shoulders. If not for your comments, I would probably flying high again in about 5 more posts.
The world has been trained to hate Americans. I hate to say this, but I fear a nuclear strike against America within a few (2-7) short years.
The fact is, the keys of our nuclear armaments have been locked up- and can only be accessed by direct confirmation numbers from the President.
This makes us naked and vulnerable to nuclear attack- without retaliation. Gabriel
You are so missing it. An attack is coming, by your own government. You are correctly being prepped for it right now. This attack will be a reason to attack Iran with nukes, before the Bush admin is out.
It is NOT an outside attack. It will not be terrorists. The obvious warning signs are all around, they do it every time.
Any truth to London being the primary asset holder Gabe? Just thought I had heard this somewhere a long time ago.
Because the male comes first, and is dominant, the bulk of the blame lies with him.
If men behaved righteously, women would have no need to rebel, or seek other alternatives.
The nuke keys are controlled by someone.
Gabriel, there are so many layers of security it is a bit mind blowing. The only way to penetrate is through massive deception that has good people do bad things. The best way to bring down many of the defenses is through drills-just like during 911.
I have nothing against scripture and Jesus and God, but I think God wants us to have our eyes open here. The only reason we killed a million innocents in iraq was not due to 911 false flag, it was due to fear. Although I hate that south park was not truthful about 911, they were truthful about the overall conspiracy. The conspiracy of fear. They control more through fear than technology. They killed about 200 whistleblowers since 9/11. There are tens of thousands more. Every time they kill one 10-100 more pop up. They are getting nervous and are trying to do the nuke false flag, but many good people in the intelligence community are totally on to them and their fucking drills.
I am not saying to keep your guard down, but do not let the fear suspend logic, that is exactly how the Pariot Act, MCA, Iraq, Surge, etc. got through.
Anonymous.
Yes I do. And yes, all of our gold was transferred out of the US from fort Knox, and sold to private (assholes). Then they sold it back to us at double the price.
The National Debt is smoke & mirrors. Money is just a medium of exchange- and a symbol of ownership. Kill the Rothschilds, and most of the US gov- solve the problem.
I hope for our country's sake you are right Sonja. I'd like to think there could be this mutual exchange and mutual relinquishing of power among those who might be a bit more mature in the marital process. Problem is, there are very real and bitter disagreements that unless put to a final arbiter in a relationship go unresolved. And the relationships oft spin out of control. Now people call Dr. Laura for advice, get marriage counselers, use any outside source available to arrange some sort of solution. I think this is a trend that may not be a good one. It shouldn't necessarily take a village. The village can be wrong too! Just my thoughts. Appreciate your response. It was a good one.
PROOF THAT JESUS IS REAL.
Go to google videos "Ron Wyatt". Ron Wyatt found evidence by retracing the Israelites path. The Ark of the Covenant resides under Golgotha- where Christ was crucified. His blood leaked down upon the mercy seat of the Ark.
6 priests attempted to remove the ark from the cave, and all died of heart failure- FACT.
God allowed Ron Wyatt to scrape some blood off of the mercy seat and have it analyzed.
The blood was taken to a lab in Israel, and analyzed by Jewish scientists.
The blood was placed overnight in a "growth medium". Upon analysis- Ron Wyatt was present. The scientists were amazed because the blood was alive!!! This is impossible, because it was dead blood.
Furthermore, the blood had 23 cromosomes from the mother, and only one Y cromosome from the father. This is also scientifically impossible. Needless to say, those scientists are all now Christians.
Answer me this though Sonja. If a man and woman have disagreement, and there will be many in a relationship. How does it get resolved? I am not married. So I oft wonder how this is achieved when neither seem to be willing to relinquish power and control in the relationship....Anonymous | 05.14.07 - 11:06 pm | #
The male/female IE: 'War between the Sexes'
(strike a bell?) has been greatly manufactured by the media and of course the entire structure supported by , well you know who .
'People' who live outside this paradigm dont seem to have problems negotiating power aspects in relationships. People who make healthy relationships do it based on mutual respect, needs and care, not power and control.
Of course many functioning relationships are power relationships, thats because the people involved 'like it' that way, and that works too.
What cannot possibly be promulgated is a one fit for all, as in 'women should be submissive' or 'men shall be the wage earners and head of house', because people are different and really, many men might just like to be stay at home dads, and women ambitious wage earners.
Power wielding in my opinion is not a good relationship quality, and no good relationships I know of have 100% power on one side, neither power allegedly 'behind' the male as it was told.
It may sound terribly corny, but Love really does
conquer all things.
You put to question things such as if there needs to be one captain in order to prevent relationship chaos. It may work on ships, or in armies, but not in relationships.
You are truly right about it not being men against women or visa versa. I have come to this recently as with the right/ left or black/hispanic/white paradigm and struggle with it with friends who are used to the idea of divide and conquer. I saw what is being done to us in divisive mode when I was writing a friend on racism.
Most of us are not racist, or sexist, we love our mothers and sisters, we love our black , hispanic, hindu, buddhist, gay friends and most of all family members. None of us escape knowing someone who sits outside our view of perfect society and behavior patterns, yet we love them. Yet we get into this all pervasive idea that we need to control 'others' outside our shere because we are afraid of their ideas and lifestyles.
This is classic Dick Cheney. IE: I love MY daughter, an her partner, and my grand baby, and my wife who writes bestial erotic literature for publication , but all you other faggots and perverts can go straight to hell.
??????
Thank God for Sane though. Keeping some semblance of a fight in here....
Notice how Europe backing out on Iraq. Setting the stage for Final conflict between East and West. Europe as many predict rising as the superpower with Anti-Christ at helm....an eventuality sooner than later perhaps.
I heard once that most of our nations gold was transferred to London. Anyone got any info on that??
Sane the floor is yours. I was up in the stratosphere for a while and glanced down onto the planet and had to post all the crap I saw that was wrong with it. I'm grounded again. I don't know how you do it every day without exploding, but I give you creds for the effort man.
There is an all seeing eye (Sauron/Satan)
There were nine rings given to men. (The top members of the Illuminati are referred to as "the nine").
Many Hollywood movies include intel.
Sane.
I know what I am saying sounds like blanket conspiracy theory logic. However.
The nuke keys are controlled by someone. Who do you think that is?
The intel I received on this was inside intel. I look at so much shit every day I can't keep track of it.
The more you study, the more you will learn that the NWO crowd controls EVERYTHING.
I have been studying NWO for 20+ years. I wish I wasn't right. But it is true. The NWO has us by the balls.
Check out Daniel. Analyze the first three Beasts. First is Kingdom of Babylon. Second is Medes and Persians. Third is Greece- Alexander. The fourth treads down the entire Earth (Rome).
Never really collapsed.
The fourth Beast has 7 heads and ten horns. It is the last kingdom on Earth before the return of the King.
I just noticed Ron Paul has been added to the yahoo news presidential election page. When did this happen? It's about damn time. http://news.yahoo.com/page/
presi...XtXEAygkotpu6cv
All the nuke keys of the entire Earth are in the hands of the NWO. Gabe.
I tend to agree. America is nothing more than a controlled experiment. - DOH!!
All the nuke keys of the entire Earth are in the hands of the NWO.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.14.07 - 11:53 pm | #
I do not agree with this. I think the 90% good people in the CIA are fed up with the BS. Outing Valerie Plame was a big deal on the farm. Sure they will let the drug running go on, but do not mess with the nuke intelligence. This was taboo and cheney went head to head with the only justification for a CIA. There has been tension ever since. neo-con pundits v. old CIA crowd.
Have you not seen them hashing it out?
Bart full frontal!
Doh!
At least it is not Homer!
That too might be a little Brisk... Is this an urban myth or what? Frankly, I think Homer has the nuke keys...
It's just a matter of time. Did you finish watching Blitzer today? We're being primed.
Take it back NOW | 05.14.07 - 11:51 pm | #
We sure are. They are planning another false flag and we know who is planning it with their drills just like the 15 on 911 (as I mentioned earlier):
How to prevent a nuke false flag, let everyone know that drills create false flags and AOL Time Warner is guilty for the nuke false flag prep work (wolf blitzer-why are you trying to kill americans through the paralyzing fear mongering?):
The generals that are using Able Danger like projects need to be exposed:
Lt. General Chilton-hair trigger on nukes
Cheney's STATCOM plan on Iran
General Shelton-JCS head in 99 to create Able Danger -terrorist patsy project that involved the 911 hijackers
General Peter Schoomaker (head of special forces on 911-now head of the army)
Coming to America - cars for sale in a city near you:
"On July 15, the day after Bastille Day, Parisians will wake up to discover thousands of low-cost rental bikes at hundreds of high-tech bicycle stations scattered throughout the city, an ambitious program to cut traffic, reduce pollution, improve parking and enhance the city's image as a greener, quieter, more relaxed place.
By the end of the year, organizers and city officials say, there should be 20,600 bikes at 1,450 stations -- or about one station every 250 yards across the entire city. Based on experience elsewhere -- particularly in Lyon, France's third-largest city, which launched a similar system two years ago -- regular users of the bikes will ride them almost for free." - Washington Post March 24, 2007
I believe the truth is..................(famous last words)
if it wasn't for God's own personal divine protection, we would already be dead or worse- given the circumstances
And so in essence, nuking ourselves is somewhat accurate. As we have agreed to let the New World Order fuck us over.
Sane. The question is,
not how many nukes do we have.
It is,
How many nukes do we control?
Answer: NONE
All the nuke keys of the entire Earth are in the hands of the NWO.
As far as I see it, the only one that wwould nuke us is ourselves. We have over 10x more nukes than the rest of the world. No one would dare nuke us, the only ones would be someone creating a deceptive strike to have us attack chaotically with no strategy or intelligence.
sane | 05.14.07 - 11:49 pm | #
It's just a matter of time. Did you finish watching Blitzer today? We're being primed.
Sane. The visual on that was.........
BRISK.
"Britain becoming a Big Brother society says data watchdog -
There are more than four million CCTV cameras in this country, one for every 14 people, and the national DNA database which was set up by police to combat crime now holds 3.5 million profiles." - The Independent May 14, 2007
This makes us naked and vulnerable to nuclear attack- without retaliation.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.14.07 - 11:46 pm | #
As far as I see it, the only one that wwould nuke us is ourselves. We have over 10x more nukes than the rest of the world. No one would dare nuke us, the only ones would be someone creating a deceptive strike to have us attack chaotically with no strategy or intelligence.
Take it back now.
There are many things I expect to hear on PP.
That was not one of them. I am surprised. (smile)
The world has been trained to hate Americans. I hate to say this, but I fear a nuclear strike against America within a few (2-7) short years.
The fact is, the keys of our nuclear armaments have been locked up- and can only be accessed by direct confirmation numbers from the President.
This makes us naked and vulnerable to nuclear attack- without retaliation.
And here's something for the kids:
"Bart bares all in film -
In the unlikeliest nude scene since Kathy Bates' hot-tub hijinks in About Schmidt, Bart Simpson will reportedly go full frontal in his upcoming feature film." - The Star Pheonix May 14, 2007
It is amusing how the speaches on whitehouse.gov are getting similar to the ones on whitehouse.org...
Latest press conference on the queen mum's visit:
resident Offers Gushingly Warm Welcome to Anachronistic Personification of Pompous Limey Entitlement
THE PRESIDENT: Today, Laura and me is honored to welcome Her Royal Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, and His Royal Hineyness King Philip – who may act all sissy-submissive in public, but who everyone knows really calls the shots back at the castle. (Winks.) I want to congratulate ol' Liz here on her recent movie and Academy Award. Watching her endure the agony of a clueless public stupidly grieving the death of that Arab-porking whore of an Ex-Princess Diane, I couldn't help but remember my own struggle when the criminally overrated Ronald Reagan finally kicked it. How expertly we both concealed our secret glee over the Lord's long-overdue decision to snuff out those pains in our asses!
You know, the United Kingdom has written many of the greatest chapters in the history of human freedom. Like, 8 zillion years ago, the Magna Carta was written, ensuring that so long as there's a piece of paper that says no one is above the law, the trashy poor rabble will more or less settle down and take their butt raping by the property-owning elite all quiet like. The United States and England share so much in common: we both speak American, both love beer, and while America straight up whooped the Britishese during our star spangled insurgency, we weren't so uppity when y'all came a begging to be made the Fifty First State back in Dubya Dubya Dos.
Tonight, I will be honored and thrilled to have my wife forcibly shoehorn me into a penguin suit to drink water out of fragile crystal with my pinky extended. We're throwing a hell of a hootenany for you, Queenie. Shit, it's the fanciest ho-down we ever held, and I think I speak for my entire Administration when I tell you what a relief it is to spend oodles of tax payer money on showing your wrinkled twat a good time, instead of spending the loot on things like body armor, New Orleans infrastructure, or competent veteran hospital administrators. We're all thrilled to have a brief, super glamorous respite from the continuing disintegration of the American Executive Branch. Thanks for the smoke break! I feel like fiddlin'!
The last time you came here, during our bicentennial all the way back in 1776 –
I mean 1996.
Oops. Hardehar, get it, you snotty old bat? Yer wrinkled ass be OLD.
(WINK)
OLD!
(WINK. LICKS IMAGINARY PUSSY)
OLD!
(LOOKS AT QUEEN)
She gave me a look only a mother could give a child. Of course, when MY mother Bar gives that look, it also comes with left hook sucker punch to the ribs.
I'm just joking. See, I'm folksy. That's my thing. Man of the people. But I guess having a sense of humor ain't your Queeny bag, seeing as you're practically German.
On a closing note, while we have many things in common, one thing we don't have in common is there ain't no blood of mine itching to go fight them Iraqazoids off in ancient Arabia. No sir. No one is THAT stupid in my family. Must be true what they say about inbreeding, huh? (Laughs.)
Thank you.
That's true Sane, you are here alot. But that's a good thing!!!
What the hell else are you going to do, watch Desperate Houswives?
"Hezbollah builds a Western base -
CIUDAD DEL ESTE, Paraguay - The Iranian-backed Hezbollah militia has taken root in South America, fostering a well-financed force of Islamist radicals boiling with hatred for the United States and ready to die to prove it, according to militia members, U.S. officials and police agencies across the continent." - NBC News May 9, 2007
Anonymous.
I don't know how to post a link. New to computer.
Hi Sane, glad you're here.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.14.07 - 11:28 pm | #
ditto, but as reported yesterday:
when am I not
Sonja.
One of the biggest problems today is that people don't understand that there are evil people in the world.
Jesus talked about the "wheat" and the "tares".
The wheat are the children of God- sown in the Earth.
The tares are the children of the Devil- sown in the Earth.
They don't think nice thoughts, like us.
sonja | 05.14.07 - 11:34 pm | #
I'm glad you can appreciate the hypocracy, care of whitehouse.gov.
post a link to your song Gabe.
"Having large families should be frowned upon as an environmental misdemeanour in the same way as frequent long-haul flights, driving a big car and failing to reuse plastic bags, says a report to be published today by a green think tank. The paper by the Optimum Population Trust will say that if couples had two children instead of three they could cut their family's carbon dioxide output by the equivalent of 620 return flights a year between London and New York." - The Sunday Times May 7, 2007
Wrote a song in two hours and tracked it today. "Reptillian Rock". Got it stored on my Roland VS2480. Might send it to David Icke.
I think it's very important that Congress have an honest debate. Hahahaha.
Take it back NOW-If I didn't think it was worthy, if I didn't think it was necessary, if I didn't realize and believe that it's important to defeat al Qaeda in Iraq, I wouldn't have our young men and women there in the first place. I believe this is a necessary action to protect our country.
Hhaahaha!
UDIENCE MEMBER: I love you, too.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Well, it's one of these kind of interactive crowds. (Laughter.)
I've learned something about how you win campaigns.
Hhahaahah!
They kill to impose their will. It's hard for Americans to believe that we face such evil people, but we do.
oops, not such a haha.
One choice was to pull back and hope that the violence wouldn't spill out across the country and out across the Middle East. The other choice that I made, in consultation with our military folks, was rather than pull back, to send reinforcements into the capital of that country, all aiming to give this young democracy an opportunity to do the reconciliation work necessary to have a country that can defend itself, govern itself, sustain itself, serves -- serve as an example to other moderate people, and be an ally in the war on terror. And that's exactly what the policy is we're -- we're now following. (Applause.)
Blah blah blah, LBJ circa vietnam war.
It would embolden al Qaeda. Al Qaeda has clearly stated -- the enemy that attacked America has clearly stated-
Ya mean the hippopotamus Osama?
AAA is my lifelong friend. Sometimes he comes over and posts on my laptop electronic wafer. (Sony Vaio) He forgot to switch back to my name.
"City inspectors, armed with citation books, will cruise the streets ready to pounce if they find a sprinkler operating illegally. Neighbors will be encouraged to rat each other out for watering on the wrong day." - South Florida Sun Sentinal
Hi Sane, glad you're here.
Take it back now. Good post.
However, the media is not drunk with self importance.
It is an entirely owned and completely controlled propaganda machine for the NWO.
The United States of America is importing people of other races, ethnicities and colors (other than light tan) so that the formerly European, and largely Anglo-Saxon, Irish or Germanic, heritage and homogeneous cultural background of "America" doesn't mean the same thing as it did thirty or forty years ago. There is a cultural dilution occurring, of which the open borders are a large part. And it isn't by accident.
Cultural redistribution will result in the erasure of borders so that this conglomerate of people, now all called American or some hyphenation of it (which is absurd and technically incorrect) will be a geographic region rather than a nationality with distinct laws. The laws of the land are, or will be, superseded by the higher law of the Globalist government, administered by the United Nations or some international court.
And there went the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, habeas corpus, and all the other protections that American citizens over forty years of age recall, even if somewhat vaguely.
I am sorry if you thought I was bashing them.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.14.07 - 10:54 pm | #
I did not know who posted it. AAA was the signer and it was unlike his tone.
I understand your point.
We must think on a higher level. I am almost half drunk on beer, but I will give it a try.
ANYTHING can be used as a medium of exchange- as long as it is agreed upon by the general public.
Nothing has any real value unless the buyer or "buyers" deem it as valuable.
Gold and paper in and of itself is worthless.
The Federal Treason(Reserve) Act was passed shortly after midnight on December 22, 1913- when most of the House and Senate were on winter break.
It is imperative that we see through the scam, print our own money again, and issue a bounty for the Rothschild family.
• Most people no longer recognize the difference between a republic and a democracy; the terms are used interchangeably.
• Untarnished citizens are routinely harassed, searched and divested of their personal property without probable cause. Schoolchildren (as well as visitors to events and museums) are patted down and inspected. Only a few “fringe groups” bother to bring up the phrase “unreasonable search and seizure.”
• Crime is out of control. Thanks to a judicial system dominated by the likes of the American Civil Liberties Union, not to mention legal one-upmanship and psychobabble, dangerous criminals rarely serve out their sentences and are freed on frivolous technicalities. Trials for violent offenders, even those caught in the act, take years and cost taxpayers a fortune. The middle class spends thousands of dollars on high-tech locks and duplicitous gadgets aimed at thwarting every kind of criminal from robbers to rapists, pornographers and spammers.
• Local police, once called “pigs” by Boomers, are now reduced to trolling for seat-belt violators. Armed with radar “guns,” they labor to catch violent criminals—one speeder at a time. When they do manage to foil a criminal act, the media—drunk since the Watergate era on its own importance—quickly divulges the tactics used to thwart it.
• In a Supreme Court decision reminiscent of Marxist dictatorships (Kilo v. New London), the U.S. government now dictates (“assesses”) what private property is worth, rather than leaving it to the consumer market. A citizen may be evicted from his/her home should a property be deemed of greater taxable value to the State via more “accommodating” parties.
• Some 14 million illegals help themselves to American entitlements. Immigrants no longer are required to have a skill, a sponsor, a job, or even to learn English. Such immigrants, of course, are fodder for votes—the less educated the better.
• As the hassle factor is turned up on good citizens, the once-dreaded ID card, featuring biometric data and microchips, is gaining acceptance. The same Baby Boomers who protested rules, supervision and oversight, are purchasing implants with tracking features for their grandchildren and elderly parents. Devices come with names like “the Babysitter” and “the Bodyguard.”
• Despite valiant efforts to curtail the welfare state after the Johnson era fiasco of the 1970s, today it grows more entrenched with each election cycle. Whereas wealth-redistribution schemes were viewed in 1966 with alarm, modern legislators and the media compete to outdo each other, using slogans like “compassionate conservatism” and “free-market socialism” to appeal to their clueless audiences.
• Black illegitimacy has reached 70 percent from its civil-rights-era 30-percent mark, despite massive entitlement and sex education programs and all manner of “incentives.” In 2007, the euphemism “single parent” de-stigmatizes unwed motherhood, equating it with widowhood, even as hordes of fatherless youths decimate our cities.
• Abortion-on-demand, in-vitro fertilization and cloning are either acceptable or in the offing, cheapening life even as the last Holocaust survivors futilely chant: “Never again!”
• Boomer adults remain fixated on their youth, spending exorbitant sums on cosmetics, liposuction, fad diets, fitness clubs, and sexual-enhancement products. Whereas Boomers once bellowed “make love, not war,” their children and grandchildren are content to just “have sex.”
• Babies are viewed as trophies—or worse, as nuisances. Most youth today possess neither the guidance nor the resources to negotiate a path to maturity. Many parents have no idea what goes on in their children’s lives or even in their rooms, such as whether lethal weapons might be stored there.
• Pornography and smut are legally protected while God is marginalized in public places, including schools. The church—indeed the entire religious establishment—is now so infiltrated with leftist leaders that scriptural wording and doctrine are either watered down or excised. Judeo-Christian ethics face non-stop legal scrutiny and scandals.
• Surges in crime, sexual predators and violence have spawned calls for universal mental health screening. Such bills as the one passed by the U.S. House of Representatives on June 13, 2006, drive states to produce copycat legislation, affecting thousands of schoolchildren, prospective parents, and even infants. Prescriptions for dangerous psychotropic drugs are pervasive—prescribed for everything from attention “deficits” to shyness.
• “Mental “illness” has become fodder for political opportunism. Crimes of opinion are on the rise. Psychotropic drugs are morphing into mandated antidotes for politically incorrect viewpoints. (George Orwell must be turning over in his grave.)
• Youth role models are primarily entertainers and sports figures of disreputable character—glorified strippers, rapists and drug-abusers. Celebrity criminals are only rarely punished. Gifted, upstanding individuals of genuine ability find it increasingly difficult to obtain an agent or an audition in 2007.
• Public schools (and some private ones) are predominantly day-care facilities. Gangs and police eye each other in the hallways, daring each other to hurl the first taunt. Spelling, grammar, geography, mathematics and penmanship are deemed inconsequential as computers become more sophisticated. Harvard is revamping its curriculum because too much time purportedly is spent on academics. Political indoctrination masquerades as scholarship. What used to be called “common knowledge” and “cultural assimilation” are anachronisms.
• American youth so love the modern school’s casual “learning” environment that drop-out rates have skyrocketed to about 30 percent generally, 40 percent for Blacks and 50 percent for Hispanics.
• Whereas in the 1970s, a TV concoction called The Gong Show was summarily rejected by the public as dehumanizing, in 2007 the top-rated show is American Idol—an updated, more tasteless replica of The Gong Show—which alternately derides, demoralizes, and devastates young contestants. Schools, meanwhile, spend countless hours on anti-bullying curricula, anger-management and conflict resolution. Go figure…
Sonja. Very good post.
I'm glad you see that the NWO is complex, and not easily lumped into single minded classifications. It is an ever evolving monster, with it's own secret history.
It is good for women to think, learn, and decide. If men were following God and doing the right things, we would not be in this mess. Your opinions are valued, and not overlooked.
On the feminist movement, David Rockefeller used to gloat that they helped create it to get women out of the home- so the children could be brainwashed by the public school system. Good things came from the feminist movement, yet I fear that their intended result was achieved.
Maybe we just do the 'ol coin toss these dayz...
Answer me this though Sonja. If a man and woman have disagreement, and there will be many in a relationship. How does it get resolved? I am not married. So I oft wonder how this is achieved when neither seem to be willing to relinquish power and control in the relationship.... So many times the root of problems in marital strife (besides money etc...) is linked to this very thing. I am not trying to get your blood boiling. I just think this is a genuine part of the overall problem. Men are not respecting their wives. Men are not following God. I'll be brief. So I won't go on and on.
James 4:17 Therefor to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
1. Unending wars, two at a time…maybe even a third one against Iran.
2. A complicit government and Congress that approves amnesty for all who illegally invade our country.
3. The loss of value of the American dollar as the world’s most valued currency.
4. Oil producing nations insisting on euros to replace dollars
5. Rampant inflation as the dollar disintegrates
6. Shortages of fuel for homes and autos because of threats and high fuel prices
7. A budget that has more left out of it then in it because of unfunded debt to support the wars
8. Government debt, already unsustainable at $8.8 trillion dollars, will rise to more than $16 trillion when the baby boomers reach age 65.
9. Loss of manufacturing capability because heavy industry is located in other lands and high tech software development is already being produced in India.
10. Foreign, cheap labor is lowering living wages and benefits, eliminating pensions and high paying jobs.
11. The nation’s military is already over tasked with commitments that can not be sustained
12. Plans are being made to run a super toll highway, 4 football fields wide from the Mexican border to the provinces in Canada without congressional approval or security measures.
13. Secret conferences were held between President Bush and leaders of Canada and Mexico to create a triad of governments similar to what is in Europe where there are no borders and Constitutions are subject to unelected judges and elite administrators.
14. Statistics now reveal that one of eight children are born autistic needing drugs and special care that most parents can ill afford.
15. Eighty-five percent of all black children have no fathers where mothers are on welfare or hold full time jobs, while receiving food stamps and Medicaid.
16. The public school systems in poor as well as some wealthy school districts are failing the training of children while building and operations costs become astronomical.
17. Congress is developing bills that make free speech a crime according to rules set by minorities and those who would close down the internet.
18. The white race is not replacing itself because of abortions, the pill before, the pill after and the postponement of raising families.
19. Vicente Fox, the former president of Mexico, predicted that by 2020 all of the Southwest will belong to Mexico. Already, major areas in California are absent white people. That applies as well in Florida, and cities in North Carolina.
Im not going to relinquish that power of voice because allegedly I should bow to the male in his infinate wisdom, which is certainly not working for us, our sons and daughters -so far.
sonja | 05.14.07 - 10:55 pm | #
I agree with pretty much everything you wrote, thought it is pretty much common knowledge the strength that women have. I believe it might stem from their motherly instincts. A man is told to not let tragedy affect them and they are told to move on. When a woman's child has died, no rules apply. This is an axiom that the NWO cannot cope with. Their idea of removing God's morals from us is hindered by the mother's instincts that bypass all mind control (sure they do the MK research on women to drown their children-but it is not universal).
Cindy Sheehan, 911 widows, etc.
Kathy Griggs believes the NWO will remove this threat by cloning instead of natural child birth.
I would also like to add, that most of the people involved in the conspiracy are white, like myself.
I am genetically mostly English and German- the two most hated races on the planet.
A little Scottish and American Indian too.
But based on some of what you have repeated, Makow is not "entirely" wrong... Perhaps the truth is somewhere in between. The roles are tending to reverse. But if some have their way, historical roles will be meaningless altogether. And then we will be left with children who are parented by the State.
Yeah that Makow thing is fucking weird, why the hell is it on this site?
sane | 05.14.07 - 10:04 pm | #
sane, you keep saying that. Do you have an opinion youd like to express further?
Because, while it is well known that feminism was supported by the NWO globalists for the express purpose of bringing women into the tax system and subsequent global slavery, the plan has a big backlash.
A military captain told me, women are a problem because they dont follow orders as well as men, they always ask , WHY?
The thing is, it was also time for women to become somewhat independant, for themselves and for the anti-war movement.
Believe me, if right now women could get men to support them for raising kids and staying at home gardening, they would, but poverty might ensue and kids would not be going to college on one salary. Nor would women be fighting the NWO like we are, because we'd be believing whatever our husbands told us to believe, and if not, have no power do do otherwise.
Everything is not one sided, 100%., neither is the NWO scheme. They may have got us to pay taxes and split up the family, for awhile, but we generally dont desire to have our sons killed in wars. Now we have bigger power against this, a voice.
Women got into power by feminism and as a result I am here and am one of the most informed female anti-war and anti-globalist , 911 researchers in the US, of that I have no doubt. Im a fucking powerhouse of information and activism. My past partners have not been at all happy that I spend so much time fighting World/political issues instead of doting on them hand and foot. In the 50's I could have been SHUT Down by a husband.
Women are not children who need to be taken care of our entire lives, and our happiness should not be dependant on a single male, who also has that extreme burden, not only of taking care of himself, but also responsible for the happiness of his woman and family.
It's a lot of responsability to put on one person.
In Freedom, noone should have to be responsable for anothers happiness. Noone should be responsable to control another.
Women are very important to this fight as free humans, because its our kids being used as cannon fodder, and many, not all, men believe it is patriotic duty to go to war for a country and nation. We havent HAD the power to say No More before, but now we do.
Im not going to relinquish that power of voice because allegedly I should bow to the male in his infinate wisdom, which is certainly not working for us, our sons and daughters -so far.
Sane. Thank you for responding to my questions about Jews.
I am sorry if you thought I was bashing them. I wasn't. I just get tired of people ranting about Jews and Zionism.
My personal belief is that most Jews are good people, and blessed by God, because they are the children of Abraham.
Christ said "Salvation is of the Jews". Referring to his lineage.
I don't hate Jews, or any one else because of their race. I think that Jew bashing is a narrow minded uneducated stereotypical view. I believe in the Bible, and I think the Jewish people are mostly good- Probably over 90%.
The best Church I ever attended was a Church of Jewish people who had received Christ as savior. Very spirit filled.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all. Thanks for coming. (Applause.) Please be seated, unless, of course, you don't have a chair. (Laughter.) I'm glad you're here. And I'm glad I'm here with you, and I thank you. (Applause.) Thanks for coming, thanks for supporting the Republican Party. Here's our mission: Our mission is to keep the White House in 2008, and retake the Senate and the House. (Applause.) And you're helping, and you're helping a lot, and I really appreciate it.
I appreciate my friend, Senator Mel Martinez for being the General Chairman of the Republican National Committee. You know, I believe -- I believe that he is the first RNC Chairman to speak English as a second language. (Laughter.) Some people think I'm the first President who can make the same claim. (Laughter.)
But I'm proud to be with Mel, and Michael Duncan, and Elliott Broidy, and all the good folks who are helping to make sure that we're ready to run a vibrant and active campaign in 2008.
I wish Laura were here. No, I know it. I'm proud of her. She is a -- she's a gracious, lovely person. (Applause.) And I am a lucky man to have had her by my side during this fantastic experience of being your President. She sends her love and she sends her best. I want to -- yes, I love her, too. Yes, she's good. (Laughter.)
AUDIENCE MEMBER: I love you, too.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Well, it's one of these kind of interactive crowds. (Laughter.)
I've learned something about how you win campaigns. I've been through a few, myself. I have found that if you stand for something the people will believe in you. If you stand on principles and enunciate that which you believe, the people will follow. And so as we head into campaign season next year it's very important for the Republican Party to enunciate that which we believe, to stand for something, not be one of these parties that takes a focus group to tell us what to believe, but to tell people what we believe and what those beliefs are -- beliefs etched in our soul.
I believe that everybody has the right to be free. I believe freedom is universal. (Applause.) I believe this country needs a strong national defense. (Applause.) I believe that the best way to encourage economic vitality so that people can realize the American Dream is through less government and more entrepreneurship. (Applause.) I believe that the government ought to trust in the judgment of ordinary citizens. I believe that technologies can help transform the world in a better way. And I believe when we find somebody who hurts we ought to encourage faith-based and community groups to surround them with love. That's what I believe. (Applause.)
These are difficult times for the United States. These are troubling times because we're a nation at war. I wish I could report that was not the case. But it is the case. And the most solemn obligation of government is to protect the American people from harm. Our most solemn duty is to use all our powers to protect you from further attack.
I must tell you that my attitude toward the world changed dramatically on September the 11th, 2001. It was a day that affected our nation deeply, and it affected me as President. And I vowed on that day and the days following that attack that I wouldn't tire, I wouldn't weary, that I would use all my capacities to rally the American people and the assets of this country to protect you.
The enemy we face is fearless. They're mean. They know new -- they know new -- they know no boundaries of civilization as we know it, see. They kill to impose their will. It's hard for Americans to believe that we face such evil people, but we do. And the fundamental question facing this country is that -- will we have the will to face the threats of the 21st century.
I have put forth a strategy that does protect America. In the short term, we will pursue the enemy wherever we find them. It is best to defeat the enemy overseas so we don't have to face them here in America. (Applause.)
And so the war on terror is being fought on many fronts -- in Afghanistan and Southeast Asia, the Horn of Africa, and of course, the Middle East. In the long term, the best way to defeat an enemy that believes in a hateful ideology is to support the spread of an ideology that's hopeful, an ideology that lifts people's lives, an ideology that can defeat those who try to prey on innocent young people and convince them to murder. And that ideology is the ideology of liberty. (Applause.)
We're implementing this strategy, and of course the debate now centers on Iraq. And it's a tough fight. But I believe it's a necessary fight to protect the American people. There's been some progress. If you think about how far Iraq has come in a relatively short period of time, it's historic. The people there in that country have gone from life under a brutal tyrant who was an enemy of the United States, to a society where 12 million Iraqis voted for one of the most modern constitutions in the history of the Middle East; a society where people were given a chance to express their will at the polls and elect a government.
A thinking enemy, however, realized that progress was being made and used their brutal ways to try to foment sectarian violence. The enemy we face in Iraq is a multifaceted enemy. But the enemy that's causing the car bombs, the enemy that is causing the spectacular deaths of the innocent is al Qaeda, the very same people that launched the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 citizens on our soul -- soil.
I was confronted with a choice. I had a decision to make. I told people that, you know, had they -- had I been one of the people that answered a poll last fall, I would have said I disapprove of what was happening in Iraq. It was not satisfactory to me of what was taking place. The sectarian violence that was deep in that society was looking like it was going to make it impossible for this young democracy to survive. You can't have your capital city as a place where murderers stalk innocent people and expect for a young democracy to be able to get its roots and to grow.
One choice was to pull back and hope that the violence wouldn't spill out across the country and out across the Middle East. The other choice that I made, in consultation with our military folks, was rather than pull back, to send reinforcements into the capital of that country, all aiming to give this young democracy an opportunity to do the reconciliation work necessary to have a country that can defend itself, govern itself, sustain itself, serves -- serve as an example to other moderate people, and be an ally in the war on terror. And that's exactly what the policy is we're -- we're now following. (Applause.)
I asked a new General, General David Petraeus, to implement the policy. Our goal is to help the Iraqis secure their population, especially in Baghdad. The operation is still in its early stages. The fourth of five groups of soldiers we're sending into Iraq have arrived. The fifth is on its way. In other words, the operational plan that David Petraeus explained to the United States Congress is still being implemented. We don't have the full complement of troops that I told the American people we would send into Baghdad.
And yet, there's some positive signs. One positive sign is that sectarian murders are down substantially, even before all our troops have arrived to help the Iraqi citizens. Sectarian murders are down. There's -- people are gaining confidence, slowly but surely, in a government, because security is improving and therefore there's more tips, more information being passed on to Iraqi forces and American forces so that we can help that society have the security necessary to do the hard work. We've had successful operations against extremists, whether they be Sunni or Shia. We're making progress.
And now we're in a debate here in Washington, D.C. And it's a debate, as you know, about whether or not to fund our troops. I think it's very important that Congress have an honest debate. And I don't question the patriotism of anyone who is expressing their views. As I made clear to members of Congress, a supplemental bill, a war spending bill that mandated withdrawals by an arbitrary date, or a bill that imposes restrictive conditions on our commanders, or a bill that would send billions of dollars unrelated to the war was unacceptable, and that's why I vetoed the bill. (Applause.)
I will continue to reach out to Democrats and Republicans to come up with a way to get this money to our troops as quickly as possible. We're not going to agree on every issue, but we don't want to put the men and women who wear our uniform in the midst of a Washington, D.C. debate. These troops need the money, and Congress needs to get it to them. (Applause.)
If I didn't think it was worthy, if I didn't think it was necessary, if I didn't realize and believe that it's important to defeat al Qaeda in Iraq, I wouldn't have our young men and women there in the first place. I believe this is a necessary action to protect our country.
Much of the debate doesn't focus on the consequences of failure. There's a lot of talk about withdrawal, but it's important for our fellow citizens to understand what the consequences would be if we fail, if we left before the job was done. There would be a vacuum in Iraq, and in that vacuum would flow extremists. Murderers and killers would take advantage of the lack of security. Violence could spill out across all Iraq. I believe there's a good chance the violence would spill out all across the Middle East. I know that people would take heart at the fact that the United States of America didn't keep its commitment to the moderates and the young -- this young democracy.
It would embolden al Qaeda. Al Qaeda has clearly stated -- the enemy that attacked America has clearly stated
I have always supported Rosie for this move Sonja. Too bad I was busy working to catch it. Thanks for the update.
?"..."The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something we are missing."
It is a tactic of genius I tell you....
I don't and haven't read Makow. Hope that answers your question Sonja. And I probably wouldn't much care for the guy the way you describe him Sonja.
I wish we had the entire exchange. I cant listen too many times because the yelling gets to me, and my dog (in house) it freaks us both out.
lol.
But wouldnt it have been more worth the backlash if he had said something worthwhile, like- You are all a bunch of brainwashed freakzoids! Which you know thats what he was thinking.
"In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed and now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country." - May 1, 2003 George W. Bush
"Three days ago, Iraqis went to the polls to choose their own leaders. This election will not mean the end of violence, but it is the beginning of something new: constitutional democracy at the heart of the Middle East. And this vote means that America has an ally of growing strength in the fight against terror. Yet our work is not done. There is more testing and sacrifice before us." - December 18, 2005 George W. Bush
The actions of the Government of Syria in supporting terrorism, interfering in Lebanon, pursuing weapons of mass destruction and missile programs, and undermining United States and international efforts with respect to the stabilization and reconstruction of Iraq pose a continuing unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States. For these reasons, I have determined that it is necessary to continue in effect the national emergency declared with respect to this threat and to maintain in force the sanctions I have ordered to address this national emergency. - May 8, 2007 George W. Bush
According to Makow.
sonja | 05.14.07 - 10:01 pm | #
Yeah that Makow thing is fucking weird, why the hell is it on this site?
Also scientologist john travolta wrote a personal letter to BBC to not air the video. Another conspiracy of silence. Scientologist everywhere are pulling out all stops to stop this film and get it trashed like all the other secret documentaries released 30 years later.
Try to watch it while you can...
I agree from what I saw, he wasnt really angry, just shouting down for the sake of it.
BTW. Can we get to some MAJOR KUDOS for Rosie O' Donnell for her bravery today in openly outing the real facts of 911 Truth, the freefall of WTC7 and having concensus about inviting 911 professional people to talk about the REAL ISSUES of 911 on The View, watched by millions?
Oh , I forgot. Rosie is a homosexual, one of the cast out, and a woman, a double whammy of baaaad people who the New Bible wielding -NWO would not accept as valid in their morality police.
Forget it then. She is a nobody, a NWO programmed homo, and a stupid WOMAN, meant to shut up and listen to MEN and not have an opinion or create strife! We have books for that!
According to Makow.
apparently scientologists were following sweeney around every second confronting him everywhere with cameras.
All I can say is that the controversy is having everyone I know watch that anti-scientology documentary, so the scientologist might have had their plan backfire-YES!!!!!!
Unfortunatetly he didnt make any points in the yelling.
sonja | 05.14.07 - 9:44 pm | #
I have watched it too many times so here goes some speculation. I think he was trying to make a point (through bad display) that cultists believe their stupid shit because it is bashed into them, like his yelling (that is why he is able to recover, he did not totally lose it, i think).
"Why does the United States, a country established on foundations of freedom and by means of a revolution, oppose the call of freedom and revolutionary movements, and line up with reactionary forces and enemies of progress?"..."The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something we are missing."
- General Gamal Abdel Nasser in a letter to President Kennedy.
I just thought it was funny, why should I be enraged when one reality shifter is trying to impose his will on another reality shifter?
sane | 05.14.07 - 9:38 pm | #
I meant, the reporters outrage. I think he was well justified to lose it. He coulda, woulda, shoulda, been more professional, but really, when confronted by a real, harmful cult, losing his cool was not so out of bounds. Unfortunatetly he didnt make any points in the yelling.
sane?
how do i link to comments like you guys do?
AAA
just right click on the number sign to the right of someones nick and do copy location or whatever, then paste it in the comment of a new post
Sane
If you are not outraged youre not paying attention!
I thought it funny, but I give this guy kudos. I wish I could have seen the entire exchange, more than what is on youtube.
BTW:
*No doubt you are familiar with the Revelations section of the Bible where various events are predicted. Also mentioned is a brief period of time in which the arch-enemy of Christ, referred to as the anti-Christ, will reign and his opinions will have sway ... this anti-Christ represents the forces of Lucifer (literally, the "light-bearer" or "light-bringer"), Lucifer being a mythical representation of the forces of enlightenment.... My mission could be said to fulfill the Biblical promise represented by this brief anti-Christ period.*
-- L. Ron Hubbard, Student Briefing, OT VIII Series I
sonja | 05.14.07 - 8:38 pm | #
Sonja-i think scientology is a mind control cult created so that LRH could molest children on tax-free yachts. But the reorter from the same "faux" news agency that has gone to unbelievable legths to cover up 911 truth loses it (i think it looks kind of strange). Do you have the whole tape?
I just thought it was funny, why should I be enraged when one reality shifter is trying to impose his will on another reality shifter?
even the most finely tuned racecar has a misfire every once in a while
alex had gas this morning
no worries
the article is not a bad deal
its a eye opener
women have been stolen from themselves for years
i am a meateater
i eat meat
i like pork
bacon
burgers
steak
sausages
hotdogs
ham
fish
chicken
i am man
women are not men
men are men
women are women
i love my wife
she is the wife of my youth
she is not a man
she is a she
i do not want green eggs and ham
sam i am
blah blah blah blah blah
nuke em all
nuke me
fuck it
drive one right down my throat
f.t.w.
f.t.n.w.o
fuck me
fuck you
fuck it all
fuckin fuck
hey sonja? howmI doin?
sane does this come accross good for my image?
hey gabe?
wtf are you doing?
making music?
is there anybody out there?
You seem to be very hostile toward men. Men are not the issue. Neither are women. Problem is both are too busy putting themselves first.
Anonymous | 05.14.07 - 8:54 pm | #
What a freaking cop out! I have been on the board all day about this facsist on the front page of PP, who claims women should be subservient to men because its natrual selection and anything and anyone who does not fit is NWO programmed. Dont try to turn this around on me.
Im not up with the hating women , gays and jews sentiment of this board. Nor with spying on our bedroom issues, nor about what we do sexually in the privacy of our own homes to be judged and spied on or outlawed or subjugated to Bible belt moralists, so that straw- man hating resonse falls in its own footprint.
I didnt start this, Alex Jones did by posting an article from a known mysoginist, homophobe and nutball, compounded by homophobes all day, and even YOU assuming , things like 'undisciplined' females and free-style hedonism without societal control.
This jackass is fringe and people cant be put in boxes.
Have you even read Makow?
Did you read that he is no example of a good Christian?
WTF are you defending?
In case youve never read a single of my posts, ever, my number one concern has always been , 911 Truth, and NWO issues. Real ones. Not placating subversive whores , who take third world mail order brides and claim their misogyny is justified by the NWO.
Im not going to stand for it. If you want to defend this and believe it is Christian to hate homosexuals, or enslave women or Jews, in the name of virtue, you are no better than the ones in power now. Another control trip.
Lawlessness pervades from every level of our federal government, which has more in common with a criminal enterprise than it does anything even remotely resembling a legitimate government. Anyone attempting to resist the latest governmental whim will quickly find themselves confronted by a heavily armed, increasingly belligerent federal police force that has ballooned to nearly 100,000 strong.
As if thuggery at the federal level was not enough, the phony "war on drugs" and the "war on terror" have morphed our local police forces into paramilitary fighting units armed with; helicopters, armored vehicles, SWAT teams, snipers, machine guns, grenades, body armor, infrared detectors, command and control systems, and electronic surveillance, along with what is often a seriously bad attitude – all of which is made available as a force multiplier to the feds, without question, whenever they really want to knock some heads.
Illegal federal spending has skyrocketed across the board, with nearly 85 cents of every dollar stolen from us going to fund literally thousands of unconstitutional programs. As our wealth is drained away from us, our national debt continues to explode - to upwards of 60 trillion dollars when all the unfunded liabilities are added in. This spiraling debt is a time bomb just waiting to go off.
The staged attacks of nine eleven spawned the avalanche of lies that were used to justify our invasion of Iraq, a country that never threatened to harm us. As our military is being transformed (rather poorly) into an imperialist fighting force, deployed in 142 of the worlds 192 countries, we have left 160,000 of our finest soldiers stranded in a deadly quagmire - their only apparent mission is to avoid getting killed as the generals force them to wander aimlessly around a vast Iraqi shooting gallery.
Silly little slogans designed to pacify the weak-minded have replaced any real dialog with those who rule us. "We must support our troops" and "It is better to fight them over there rather than over here" are two of the classics. Many still cling to the notion that Iraq was involved in 9/11. Call it "mission accomplished" for a government education system that continues to churn out an annual crop of fearful, obedient servants.
The military industrial complex, aided by the 100,000 or so contractors and mercenaries they have in Iraq, is cashing in on the half a trillion dollars we have spent raining carnage down on the Iraqi people.
Another convenient outcome of nine eleven - for the enemies of freedom - is the major assault that is being aggressively waged against the Constitution, resulting in illegal wiretaps, email snooping, airport strip searches, along with a huge increase in federal spying into just about every facet of our lives. The NSA/CIA/FBI domestic spy ring is completely out of control, posing a far greater threat to our freedom than any wandering band of desert Bedouins could ever hope to.
The unprecedented increase in domestic spying - or more correctly, domestic treason - was accompanied by the loss of our right to habeas corpus - which means we can be arrested without being charged, and hauled off to a secret prison - possibly one located in a country that has even less aversion to torturing prisoners than we do. For anyone classified as an "enemy combatant," there is no right to counsel, and no right to a trial. Secret evidence and forced confessions may be used against those imprisoned. To that end, there are enough indecipherable new laws and restrictions such that any one of us could be caught up in the "Fatherland Security" net without ever knowing what we did wrong - which is exactly the intent.
Lies and propaganda pour out of nearly every talking head in Washington, which is spoon fed to us 24 hours a day by a compliant media - with shows like Fox "News" bearing a stronger resemblance to Pravda, the former Soviet Union's propaganda arm, than anything like real news reporting.
A private banking cartel, called The Federal Reserve, created nearly 5,000,000,000,000 (that's five trillion!) Federal Reserve Notes - out of thin air - since January 2000. This desperate attempt to prop up the failing American empire was in reality a five trillion dollar hidden tax. The counterfeiters got rich, while we got ripped off. Unbelievable.
After just a few months in power, the Democrats have already proven they are just as useless as the Republicans. (Like we ever had any doubt!) Our political system has degraded to such a sorry condition that we are left with the equivalent of two competing crime families running our government, each side vying for the right to grab a bigger slice of the plunder. As part of the scam, they masquerade as a two party political system. A Hillariod administration is looming just over the horizon.
Corporate robber barons often take home tens of millions a year in salary, while our government encourages them to move their family wage jobs to countries that will provide the equivalent of slave labor. The biggest losers in this cozy little deal are the American people, along with our manufacturing base, which has been left in ruins.
We continue to burn Middle Eastern oil at an unsustainable rate, ensuring that we will be bogged down there for decades to come. This, while Detroit is building cars that get fewer miles per gallon than a Model T got one hundred years ago. The solution? The federal government is handing out incentives to pull corn out of the food chain for use as an ethanol feedstock - which is produced at a net energy loss! Brilliant, just brilliant.
Exxon/Mobil, with $40 billion in profits last year, comes out the big winner in all this confusion - which is probably why they, and the rest of their corporate cohorts, continue to bribe nearly every congressman who skulks the halls of Congress.
anybody out there?
im really beginning to like this sonja girl
sane?
how do i link to comments like you guys do?
i wasnt trying to be rascist at all when i posted anything
i am against evil period
if its evil
i dont care what color it is
i think gabe was posing the hypothetical to show how absurd the sweeping stereotyping is
i hate sin
i resist the devil
i wage spiritual warfare against the fallen angels, satan and the nephalim
i expose all agents of this world who work towards the beast system
in america
it is we the peoples duty to find the crimiknals out and indict them, try them, convict the guilty, and proceed according to constitutional and common law
Sometimes it is better to leave things left unsaid Sonja. A lot of effort would be wasted attempting to drive the point further. You seem to be very hostile toward men. Men are not the issue. Neither are women. Problem is both are too busy putting themselves first.
Sane
If you are not outraged youre not paying attention!
I thought it funny, but I give this guy kudos. I wish I could have seen the entire exchange, more than what is on youtube.
BTW:
*No doubt you are familiar with the Revelations section of the Bible where various events are predicted. Also mentioned is a brief period of time in which the arch-enemy of Christ, referred to as the anti-Christ, will reign and his opinions will have sway ... this anti-Christ represents the forces of Lucifer (literally, the "light-bearer" or "light-bringer"), Lucifer being a mythical representation of the forces of enlightenment.... My mission could be said to fulfill the Biblical promise represented by this brief anti-Christ period.*
-- L. Ron Hubbard, Student Briefing, OT VIII Series I
>>>The son of a Boston University professor who has become a vocal critic of the war was killed Sunday while his Army unit was on combat patrol in Iraq , the Department of Defense announced this afternoon.
First Lieutenant Andrew J. Bacevich was the son of Professor Andrew J. Bacevich Jr., a West Point graduate and retired Army lieutenant colonel.
The younger Bacevich was killed Sunday when an improvised explosive device detonated near his unit in the Salahuddin Province. The 1998 BU graduate lived in Walpole and fought with the third battalion, eighth Cavalry Regiment, Third Brigade Combat Team, First Cavalry Division in Fort Hood, Texas.
Professor Bacevich declined to comment today. He wrote in an opinion article in the Globe in March that "our reckless flirtation with preventive war qualifies as not only wrong, but also stupid. Indeed, the Bush Doctrine poses a greater danger to the United States than do the perils it supposedly guards against."
"We urgently need to abrogate that doctrine in favor of principles that reflect our true interests and our professed moral values," Bacevich added.
Posted by the Boston Globe City & Region Desk at 07:20 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/
globe...er_from_wa.html
from boston.com
BREAKING NEWS: The Associated Press is reporting a special World Bank panel report concludes that President Paul Wolfowitz broke bank rules in arranging for a pay package for his girlfriend. The panel said there is a "crisis in the leadership" at the bank and said the board will have to determine if Wolfowitz is able to "provide the leadership needed." --Developing
OT-I have no love for the scientology cult, but this is hilarious:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
20...on_n_48455.html
BBC Reporter Explodes On-Air At Church Of Scientology Spokesman
(get ready to laugh your ass off-looks like it was staged but the guy really fucking loses it)
Associated Press | ROBERT BARR | Posted May 14, 2007 04:07 PM
A 40-second rant by a British Broadcasting Corp. reporter, shouting angrily at Church of Scientology official while researching a documentary, has become fodder for a simmering dispute now playing itself out in Internet video clips.
John Sweeney's outburst came as he was interviewing Tommy Davis, a Scientology spokesman who had objected to Sweeney's use of the word "cult." Sweeney's rant was captured by BBC's Panorama program, to air Monday, and Scientology video cameras.
Also check out the twin towers in the background...
You promised a story on the BP-Azerbaijan scandal!
CIA-FBI-Fascit, KILLA | 05.14.07 - 6:33 pm | #
Talk to ak48 about it, I do not know enough. I will try and look at some on the stuff though.
Anonymous | 05.14.07 - 7:12 pm | #
Youre babbling on randomly. What are you TRYING to say?
Virtuous in what way? should homosexuals be outlawed? Should women be enslaved to male wishes. Who's World Order are we looking at now, after this one falls? The Biblical one? How do Hindus and Buddhist fair?
One does not need societal or religious RULES in order to be virtuous. Some of us just have a good concience and healthy respect for others, their right to privacy , and not to be controlling, or sticking ones moral nose into everyone elses business.