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Bush administration spies on anti-Halliburton activists
22 Jan. 2006
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/.../news/ CIFA.html
WASHINGTON, Jan. 22 (HalliburtonWatch.org) -- The U.S. military spies on individuals protesting Halliburton, Newsweek reports today.

In an article titled, "The Other Big Brother," investigative journalist Michael Isikoff reports that a "harmless" anti-Halliburton protest in 2004 by 10 peace activists outside the company's Houston headquarters "was regarded as a potential threat to national security" by people inside the Bush administration.

The purpose of the 2004 protest "was to call attention to allegations that the company was overcharging on a food contract for troops in Iraq," Isikoff writes. The protest was organized by anti-Halliburton activist Scott Parkin, who was deported by the government of Australia in 2005 for organizing peaceful teach-ins on Halliburton's war contracts.

Isikoff reports that the spying activity was conducted by the ultra-secret Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA), created three years ago by the Defense Department to track threats and terrorist plots against military installations and personnel inside the United States.

According to Isikoff, "In May 2003, Paul Wolfowitz, then deputy Defense secretary, authorized a fact-gathering operation code-named TALON—short for Threat and Local Observation Notice—that would collect 'raw information' about 'suspicious incidents.' The data would be fed to CIFA to help the Pentagon's 'terrorism threat warning process,' according to an internal Pentagon memo."

But the article says the leaders of the domestic spying program admit "the outfit may have gone too far."

Isikoff reports that "there are now questions about whether CIFA exceeded its authority and conducted unauthorized spying on innocent people and organizations." A Pentagon memo obtained by Isikoff reveals that the deputy Defense secretary "now acknowledges that some TALON reports may have contained information on U.S. citizens and groups that never should have been retained." The number of citizens named in the TALON reports "could be in the thousands," says a senior Pentagon official quoted by Isikoff.

These revelations are the latest in several recent disclosures showing that the Bush administration is spying on benign peace groups and individuals in the name of national security.

Vice President Dick Cheney called the spy program "vital" to the country's defense against al Qaeda. "Either we are serious about fighting this war on terror or not," he said in a speech to the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank. Isikoff said the new information about CIFA shows "the scope of the U.S. government's spying on Americans may be far more extensive than the public realizes," adding, "It isn't clear how many groups and individuals were snagged by CIFA's dragnet."

Isikoff's article concludes: "A Pentagon spokesman declined to say why a private company like Halliburton would be deserving of CIFA's protection." But since the military has worked closely with contractors in the past, the Defense Department has included the protection of military contractors in its spy program.


>>>>Continuity of Government is owned by Cheney's Front Group, AEI

http://www.continuityofgovernmen...t.org/ home.html
About the Commission
The Continuity of Government Commission was launched in the fall of 2002 in order to study and recommend reforms to ensure the continuity of our governmental institutions in the event of a catastrophic attack.

The commission is an American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Brookings Institution project headquartered at AEI. It is funded by the Carnegie, Hewlett, Packard, and MacArthur foundations. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford are the honorary co-chairs of the commission and Lloyd Cutler and Alan Simpson are the chairmen. The commission includes members who have served in government at the highest levels.

The commission first focused its attention on preserving Congress, and has now turned to the executive and the Supreme Court. The central issue that the commission addressed is how Congress could function if a large number of members were killed or incapacitated. The problem is most acute in the House of Representatives because the Constitution requires that all vacancies be filled by special election, and it takes four months on average to fill these seats. If there were mass vacancies, the House might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement, or it might operate with a small and unrepresentative number. A second problem is that of incapacity. There is no precedent for filling temporary vacancies so both houses of Congress would be severely diminished, or unable to operate at all, if a large number of members were incapacitated. The events of September 11th led to several ongoing efforts to preserve the continuity of Congress. There was a similar effort in the 1950s and 1960s to deal with these same issues.

In addition, the commission will deal both with the continuity of the Supreme Court, which has a quorum requirement, and with potential reforms to the Presidential Succession Act.The commission met twice in the fall of 2002 to hear testimony and formulate recommendations. It issued a report in June of 2003 on the continuity of Congress. The second phase of the commission has begun addressing presidential succession and will include discussion of continuity in the Supreme Court.
Areas of Investigation
The Continuity of Government Commission will address the continuity of all three branches of government:
Continuity of Congress - The central issue the commission will address is how Congress would function after a terrorist attack. Because of the possibility of large numbers of incapacitated members or vacancies, Congress might not be able to function unless some provision is made to replace members who are deceased or unable to perform their duties. A crippled Congress might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement in a time of crisis.
Presidential Succession - In a second phase of the project, the commission will look at issues surrounding the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, with an eye to ensure that there is a clear transfer of power to the appropriate successor in a time of crisis.
Continuity of the Supreme Court - In the aftermath of a terrorist attack, there might be significant institutional questions over which the Supreme Court would have to rule. The Supreme Court has a quorum requirement of six, and there are a number of other questions about the status of lower court appeals if the Court were disabled for a significant amount of time.
Continuity of Congress
But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session. The resulting deaths and injuries might have caused the Congress to cease functioning altogether for a number of months.

There are two issues that threaten the continuity of Congress after a terrorist attack: mass vacancies and incapacitated members. The issue of mass vacancies affects the House of Representatives where vacancies are filled only by special election, unlike the Senate where governors may make immediate temporary appointments. Special elections are governed by state laws, and, on average, it takes four months to elect a new member to fill a vacant seat. Depending on the number of vacancies, the House might not even be able to field a quorum, or it might have to operate with a skeleton crew of members not representative of the country as a whole. The second issue of incapacitated members affects both the House and the Senate. Neither body has regular procedures to deal with incapacitated members. In the past, members who have serious incapacities that prevent them from performing their duties were left in place until the end of their terms. If a large number of members were temporarily unable to perform their duties due to injuries or infectious diseases, both bodies might not be able to function because of a lack of a quorum.

In the 1950s and 60s, the Senate passed three constitutional amendments giving governors the power to make temporary appointments to fill House vacancies when there were mass vacancies. The House did not act on these measures. After September 11th, Norman Ornstein wrote "What if Congress were Obliterated?" in Roll Call addressing this very issue. On a parallel track, Congressman Brian Baird introduced H.J. Res. 67. A number of other proposals have been introduced or suggested. There have also been a number of hearings before committees in the House.

http://www.continuityofgovernmen...mages/ quote.jpg
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Did you guys get that?????

Some brave pilot blew the Unmanned aircraft out of the sky and AEI/PNAC/Cheney are so pissed.

Here it is again:
Continuity of Congress
But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session.


Check out the other stuff in BOLD, can anyone say MOTIF????????

They are talking about the attacks that they plan and execute, why doesn't 99% of the public see this??????


re sane
I belive that halliburton contract was signed on jan 26 2006, you can read the press release on the halliburton site... actually they refer to it not only as detention camps but also processing camps... whatever that means


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Developing New Bush Scandal Helping Big Oil Companies Hide Billions from Government at Taxpayer Expense
Submitted by BuzzFlash on Wed, 05/23/2007 - 5:25pm. Analysis
http://www.buzzflash.com/article...es/analysis/ 213
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS

Corruption within the Department of Interior may have allowed oil companies to improperly save billions at the expense of the taxpayers. The Department’s Inspector General has already made at least two criminal referals to the FBI and the Justice Department, and Congressional Democrats have launched several investigations and introduced new legislation to fix the problem.

In a nutshell, oil companies leasing federal land to drill for oil are required to pay the government royalties based on a percentage of their sales. But under the Royalty-in-Kind program, the companies can pay in the form of oil and gas instead of cash. The problem is that oil prices have increased more than the value of the oil and gas royalty revenues being recieved, meaning that the oil companies are managing to withhold a growing amount of their profits from Uncle Sam.

As you might guess, Royalty-in-Kind was proposed and remains supported by the oil industry, and Bush implanted officials with deep ties to the oil industry in charge of the agency responsible for enforcing the program, the Minerals Management Service (MMS).

In light of the growing scandal, MMS Director Johnnie Burton has already announced that she will be retiring by the end of May. Burton started an oil exploration business before becoming a staunch Republican politician in Wyoming, where she developed ties with Dick Cheney. Greg Smith became the new head of MMS, but he just announced his own sudden retirement Tuesday.

"It appears this Administration uses retirement like some perverse witness protection program," said Rep. Nick Rahall. "Get them out of the spotlight and off the list of in-the-know folks who could provide damaging evidence. Instead of Watergate's 'follow the money,' the Bush Administration has "follow the retirements.' "

Rep. Rahall is chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, which held a hearing Wednesday on the Energy Policy Reform and Revitilization Act aimed at eliminating the oil royalty corruption and loopholes, among other things.

Much of the controversy surrounds a mistake inadvertantly created during the Clinton Administration that went unaddressed and not publically acknowledged until 2006. MMS Director Burton claimed at the time that she had only recently discovered the problem, but midlevel officials spotted the mistake in 2000 and the Interior Department’s Inspector General and even top Republicans say she either knew or should have known about the mistake as early as 2004.

The delay allowed oil companies to save more money and prevented the chance for easier lease renegotiations since energy prices were much lower at the time.

But wait, there’s more! A former Interior auditor-turned-whistleblower revealed that he was ordered by senior Washington officials to drop a case against the Kerr-McGee Corporation for cheating the government out of at least $12 million in royalties. A jury found the company guilty of underpayment, though the case remains pending in federal court on appeal.

MMS Director Burton "is a person who apparently never saw an oil and gas royalty payment audit she liked," Rep. Rahall said Wednesday. "Under her reign, the average number of annual audits conducted plummeted from 540 to 144. And left on the wayside were billions of dollars in royalty payments owed to the American people." As MMS Director, Burton was responsible for auditing participating companies.

The Bush Administration (and the oil industry) want the percentage of oil and gas royalties to double by 2009 and continue to insist that the Royalty-in-Kind scheme is simpler and more efficient because it reduces accounting and transaction efforts. But it is this very reduction in reporting through a de facto "honor system" that has allowed oil companies to keep more money while also preventing the Government Accountability Office from being able to evaluate whether the program is actually profitable to the government.

"The fact that the Interior Department would now take steps to expand this program defies logic," Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) said.

Evidence that four top Interior officials were paid as consultants for oil companies hoping for contracts inspired one of the two criminal investigations. With indictments pending and more Congressional hearings planned, there is no telling what else will be revealed in this scandal.


re http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h? v=ptsbCwcbrfc
Notice how the cops are NOT threatening anyone with less lethal weapons, they are not making threats towards cameramen, they are in fact not even openly hositle. Compare this to the dark sunglasses we see today, prepared to lie about terror crime to imprison peaceful protestors, putting up cameras in every corner and tazering people to death on a weekly basis. Where that freedom go? I´m pretty sure Osama didnt take it.


Russia 'tests missile able to break US shield'

Matthew Moore
London Telegraph
Wednesday May 30, 2007

Russia today claimed to have tested a missile capable of penetrating any defence shield erected by the United States, fuelling fears of a new Cold War-style arms race.

-pointless article here, with the amount of nuclear weapons we collectively really DO have, cant these morons figure out it really doesnt matter WHERE these things detonate. theres enough to literally scorch the atmosphere away several times over when once is all it takes to "create" a lifeless lump of clay, even if some these things are taken out before they hit their targets. the US defense shield and the STAR WARS ideas are PURE BULLSHIT and a ridiculous waste of money and resources.. what is this shield going to do about cleaning up depleted uranium allover the middle east, can it magically cure all the radiation poisoning and genetic damages to the people there?! this is not just "those towelheads" .. our own troops over there are suffering for DU too, coming home infecting their families and having insurance policies cancelled for it too. the whole commercialization of "support our troops" is a sick joke. I still believe the government and the military industrial complex does NOT WANT to bring some 200,000 troops home because millions of people WOULD see their health deteriorate rapidly and alarm us to this reality. it is already not only an illegal war, it is also illegal nuclear weapons of war being used, depleted uranium.


re sane
About this Michael Rothschild, i really don´t know anything about him, i suppose the easiest way to find out his relation to the banking family is to email him, he doesn´t seem all that shy. However the article points out one thing which is deeply disturbing. How would you fight a completely corrupted congress and a centralized and controlled media? Wouldn´t you agree that the only way to do it would be to install a king? We both know that congress is under more or less complete control, so why limit their power? They have been all too willing to pass any crazy legislation Bush has thrown at them. I have never really subscribed to the myth of a completely homogeneous new world order, but could it be that we are seeing the final showdown here? If so, it could even be that Bush and Cheney represents the lesser of two evils, not a pleasant outlook really. In fact (and this is just over speculation on my part) the Bush faction represents an actual solution if you stretch the scenario a bit. Now that Bush has actually taken dictatorial powers and made himself king, he can be overthrown and the republic resurrected. This could never happen with a shadow government that we could not see and almost no one wanted to belive in. In a sense King George is an open target unlike what the money kings ever were, this would even make him a martyr for the republic, what a sick thought...
Of course this is just the type of speulations that i usually never get involved in since it leads nowhere and is almost certainly wrong. Forget what i wrote


the goal was to make Bell Helicopter and Monsanto rich (as well as others).

Don't tell me, agent orange right?
One of my newest dvds has the vid "future of Food" about Monsantos global monopoly on seed, because of their wealth from roundup sales they have bought up all the worlds large seed companies and promply genetically altered everything and patented all seed, including the "terminator" gene so no harvested seed will germinate the next year...........


-this writer blew it with me right there, no need to read any further.. BRUCE RAMSEY.. get off yer high horse and get behind Ron Paul.. oh wait, ya already are.. oops, not behind him ... FAR BENEATH HIM !!
Sees Things | 05.30.07 - 9:56 pm | #
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There is so much of this "bait and switch" reporting.

Here is another one :
http://www.opednews.com/ articles...ul_right_on.htm
Some of the arguements and "evidence" whether or not they are intentional follow a pattern that are too familiar. We are continually being led to a disney one side v. another side world.

Anyway, the article takes a noticable shift with this paragraph:

Had the South Vietnamese military been allowed to do this, they could have successfullydefended the 17st parallel as their border to North Vietnam, and 50,000 US troops and in excess of 500,000 Vietnamese “boat people” killed at sea in the post-war years would still be alive today. They would also very likely still be able to live in freedom, instead of under the brutal communist yoke that still muzzles all opposition today.

His attampt to simplify the whole winning/losing of the Vietnam war because of a limited initiative does not hold water. In addition, we were obeying Russia and China's ongoing negotiations. Vietnam and Cambodia was an international elite agreement to make a shitload of money and conduct testing.

In addition, Vietnam is not as dire as the author makes it look. I get highly skeptical of people that say "we could have won in vietnam and saved that terrible country."

There was no war, it was an occupation and the goal was to make Bell Helicopter and Monsanto rich (as well as others).

So many of these articles start inoccuous and then spin it to somehow show that Ron Paul is not a "real" candidate.

My general opinion about these tactics that jar emotions using so called "historical facts":

Don't Believe the Hype-PE


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The following are examples of how Ames Laboratory contributes to:


Research confirming negative refraction can be observed in photonic crystals in the microwave region of the electromagnetic spectrum, which moves physicists one step closer to constructing materials that exhibit negative refraction at optical wavelengths and realizing the much-sought-after superlens.
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Superlens (wiki):
A superlens is a lens which is capable of subwavelength imaging. Conventional lenses have a resolution on the order of one wavelength due to the so called diffraction limit. This makes it impossible to image very small objects such as individual atoms which have sizes many times smaller than the wavelength of visible light. A superlens is able to beat the diffraction limit. A very well-known superlens is the perfect lens described by John Pendry, which uses a slab of material with a negative index of refraction as a flat lens. In theory, Pendry's perfect lens is capable of perfect focusing—meaning that it can perfectly reproduce the electromagnetic field of the source plane at the image plane.

For the argumentation, plane waves are used. Let us start from a beam splitter using frustrated total internal reflection. Then we add a second layer of a material, which has a refractive index with the same absolute value, but the opposite sign of the first layer. If both layers are as thick, the beam splitter does not split anymore, but passes, for example, all energy and maybe the temporal evolution of a laser pulse. In this theory, the material with the high index of refraction can have a very high refractive index (absolute value), which means very small objects immersed into it are still resolved. This resolution is also sustained through the low refractive index material. The Kramers-Kronig relation tells us that this is only possible for a narrow range of frequencies (the material has to be tuned).
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Superlens (other use):
http://mae.pennnet.com/Articles/...SION_NUM=2& p=32
In 2000, researcher John Pendry at the Imperial College London theorized that slabs of such material might be used to create a “superlens” that would drastically improve the quality of medical diagnostic imaging and other technologies, Purdue researchers say. Such lenses theoretically could compensate for the loss of a portion of the light transmitting an image as it passes through a lens. Harnessing materials that have a negative index of refraction could make it possible to take optical images of objects that are smaller than the wavelength of visible light-including molecules such as DNA-for research and medical imaging. Also possible could be “photo-nanolithography,” which would make it possible to etch smaller electronic devices and circuits, resulting in more powerful computers, as well as new types of antennas, computer components and consumer electronics such as cell phones that use light instead of electricity for carrying signals and processing information, resulting in faster communications.

'Cloaking device' idea proposed
By Paul Rincon
BBC News science reporter
The work brings science fiction closer to science fact - just a little
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/t...ech/ 4968338.stm
The cloaking devices that are used to render spacecraft invisible in Star Trek might just work in reality, two mathematicians have claimed. They have outlined their concept in a research paper published in one of the UK Royal Society's scientific journals. Nicolae Nicorovici and Graeme Milton propose that placing certain objects close to a material called a superlens could make them appear to vanish. It would rely on an effect known as "anomalous localised resonance".

http://advancednano.blogspot.com...- superlens.html
More on Metamaterials and Superlens over 5 times better than ordinary lenses

Superlens focus is 5 to 10 (1/20th of wavelength) times better than the diffraction limit (half of wavelength). For light that is 350 nanometers it could focus to 17 nanometers. Applications: far faster computers, communications, microscopes, telescopes, DVDs etc... The goal is a perfect lens. Metamaterials make this and invisibility possible.

Powerpoint tutorial, by G Shvets of the Univeristy of Texas at Austin, on meta-materials and applying superlenses to laser plasma accelerators The powerpoint discusses plans to use superlenses to focus down to 1/20th of a wavelength. Half of wavelength is the diffraction limit for a conventional lens. Lenses that are 10 times better are planned and lenses 5 times better have been achieved. Researchers at the University of Texas at Austin and at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland have created a functional superlens in the mid-infrared, achieving a resolution of better than λ/10 using an 11-µm source. According to the group’s calculations, a square array of nanorods, perhaps fabricated of anodized aluminum, may demonstrate superlensing at near-IR and visible wavelengths. The scientists are investigating the use of a square array of metallic nanorods spaced approximately 100 nm apart. This will produce a metamaterial with a negative refractive index and numerical calculations show that such a structure will exhibit superlensing.

Here is some of work with gold nanorods which show the negative index effect. However, the nanorods are too large and too much light is absorbed. Applications are any technology where sub-wavelengths would provide performance benefits. Various optical related electronics can get smaller. It could be used for photo-nanolithography. (nanolithography is discussed here at wikipedia and photolithography is discussed at wikipedia. Combining them with photo-nanolithography means cheaper ways to make more powerful computer chips) Photo-nanolithography would make it possible to etch smaller electronic devices and circuits, resulting in more powerful computers, as well as new types of antennas, computer components and consumer electronics such as cell phones that use light instead of electricity for carrying signals and processing information, resulting in faster communications.

Previously discussed possibilities include invisibility, supertelescopes, supermicroscopes and many more.
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Sharks with frickin laser beams and SUPERLENSES


The GOP would be wise to listen to Ron Paul's message

Bruce Ramsey
Seattle Times
Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Two-thirds of Americans can now see that starting a war in Iraq was a mistake. The majority of Republicans still do not see it. Eventually they will, but it's hard to go against their own president unless one of their own makes them do it.

That may be the usefulness of Rep. Ron Paul. There is no way this libertarian medical doctor from Texas is going to win the Republican nomination.

-this writer blew it with me right there, no need to read any further.. BRUCE RAMSEY.. get off yer high horse and get behind Ron Paul.. oh wait, ya already are.. oops, not behind him ... FAR BENEATH HIM !!


better get that shotgun you were always thinking about buying. Things are being brought to the boiling piont as more Americans become aware of their government.
Mr. America | 05.30.07 - 10:55 am | #

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Shotgun hell, be smart and get at least a 30-06 and a good .22, pistol and rifle, ruger 10-22 is a good model. Handguns are great, revolvers are more reliable, you can get two of those for the price of a semi auto pistol.
Don't bring a pistol or shotgun or a little .22 to a rifle fight...........(the .22 is more for survival off the land, rabbits and even deer can be had with just the lowly .22).
You can bet when the time comes you'll be against a good military rifle. The fools are usung "poodle shooters" these days though, the wimpy .223 round, more for injuring than killing.......


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Alan Redd is a member of FTDNA's Scientific Advisory Board. Postdoctoral Fellow in the Genomic Analysis and Technology Core Facility, University of Arizona. Dr. Redd has 15 years of experience studying mitochondrial and Y chromosome DNA variation in populations from the Americas, Oceania, and the Indian subcontinent. He recently published a manuscript about the identification and characterization of novel STRs for use in forensics.

Thomas Krahn FTDNA's Genomics Research Center
Ariel Darvasi is a Member of FTDNA's Scientific Advisory Board. Thomas is the Technical Laboratory Manager of FTDNA's Genomics Research Center in Houston. Graduated from the Technical University of Berlin with an MSC (Dipl. Ing.) in biotechnology and genetics. Thomas specializes in complex kinship testing and family reconstructions. He is an expert in developing new molecular biological methods and assays to resolve questions of biological heritage.

Max F. Rothschild PhD Molecular Geneticist
Max Rothschild is a member of FTDNA's Scientific Advisory Board. Holder of four U.S. and several international patents on genetic testing methods, Dr. Rothschild is the C.F. Curtiss Distinguished Professor of Agriculture at Iowa State University. He received his PhD from Cornell University, and has authored over 175 peer-referreed publications.

Matthew Kaplan FTDNA Lab Manager
Doctoral candidate at the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at the University of Arizona, with over 10 years of hands-on experience in Molecular Biology.

Bennett Greenspan President and CEO (any relation to alan???)
An entrepreneur and life-long genealogy enthusiast, Mr. Greenspan founded Family Tree DNA in 1999, turning - dare we say - a hobby into a full-time vocation. Together with Max Blankfeld, they founded in 1997 GoCollege.com a website for college-bound students which survived the .COM implosion.

Max Blankfeld VP Operations/Marketing
Originally from Brazil, received his BBA from Fundaçăo Getulio Vargas, and MBA from Rice University. While his first college education was in the field of Aeronautical Engineering, he gave it up to become a foreign correspondent. After that, he started and managed several successful ventures in the area of public relations as well as consumer goods both in Brazil and the US.


AK-have you heard of this rothchild and what is his connection?

He is the editor of progressive news and his articles are very reality based and anti-establishment. I'm kinda curious:

http://www.progressive.org/mag_wx0529b07


ak48 | 05.30.07 - 4:34 pm | #

sorry that i have probably not read 1 full avian flu article (until now). I just never gave it much thought because of all the other pressing issues, but if simple testing on something that a proven vaccine creator suggested is not done, then like all the other things going on, WTF?


cr_maverick | 05.30.07 - 6:06 pm | #

For the sake of argument, what is your advice besides not listening?

and I have already seen all of the sites and watched many of the corresponding videos.


Amazing: you idiot 9/11 sheeple still can't work out our part in the dialectic can you? Still discussing the talking points given to you by the NWO; you actually think Ron Paul will change a system systemically corrupt with your help? Ha ha ha ha ha! And now I see how Jones and his crew have incrementally re-introduced you idiots into 9/11 celebrity worship, thereby giving you 9/11 couch potatoes and somesuch false senses of victory. Start looking at the problems facing the entire globe with a fresh, non Alex Jones perspective, and stop allowing yourselves to be fooled in the exact same way you all did, at some point or another by the mainstream media. I know that some of you are just too indoctrinated to be able to see the frailties of the heroes supplied to you through the wall of impervious iollusion that you have built up around them; it's amazing, so many people on this propaganda website say that they are devout Christians, yet all of them are quite clearly idol worshippers, putting first their country, then Jarhead Jones over their god. Shows they haven't even understood the meanings of their own bible.

www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com
www.arcticbeacon.com
www.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend.it
www.vaticanassassins.org
www.spirituallysmart.com

REALLY WAKE UP!
And stop accepting this non fat lite version shit you receive here, that is, if you have the balls.


Can you not think of a better reason as to why we need Ron Paul for President? Law enforcement has no respect for The Constitution that they have sworn to protect and defend. If their word means nothing to them what makes you think that you do. America NEEDS Ron Paul today!!

Join us in a realtime discussion at irc://irc.freenode.net/RonPaul or irc://us.undernet.org/RonPaul or irc://irc.choopa.net/RonPaul (EFnet). There are many others there who understand thee importance of getting Dr. Paul elected and we are doing everything that we can to get him in office. Instructions for joining can be found here: http://dailypaul.com/node/48

I hope to see you there,
Tres a/k/a RiverRat


http://pressesc.com/01180202266_eevs

Now you need government permission to work, too.


Ron Paul - Count on Iowa, Carolinas!


http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp? nid=42435


re sane
Now.. im not suggesting there is anything to read in this document, but if you feel like having a look...
http://www.archive.org/details/ v...atura00johnrich

Does this sound at all like it could have relation to birdflu?

Where does influenza A come from? One of my interests is
avian influenza A found in terns in South Africa, fowl pest
chicken influenza A, and turkey influenza A. We know you can
isolate Hong Kong virus A from ducks in Canada. We wondered why
Asian flu started in south China. Well, that's where they raise
ducks in special ponds and they have been found infected with the
influenza A Asian strain. Whether the duck is an amplifying or
reservoir host of influenza A is not understood. There is an
influenza A virus of horses, and swine influenza A. Cell lines
from insectivorous bats are susceptible to influenza A and B
viruses.* We should test lung specimens of insectivores and
frugivorous bats for influenza viruses.

Interview 12: March 18, 1988


Ron Paul Targets Arizona, Too


http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp? nid=42423


Praise for Ron Paul


http://themoderatevoice.com/soci...n-paul-squared/


god could you pick a less blasphemous nickname?
Anonymous | 05.30.07 - 3:24 am | #

hey my dyslexia makes it look just fine allright


Breaking - Ron Paul to Appear on The Daily Show, June 4

http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp? nid=42448


god could you pick a less blasphemous nickname?
Anonymous | 05.30.07 - 3:24 am | #

God is NOT a blasphemous name bro, the only blasphemy Christ Jesus spoke about is against the Holy Spirit.
So~
No, I can't!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God | 05.30.07 - 12:42 pm | #

_________________________

Must be god of the mentally incompetent:

"He is the Enemy," that is, he is contrary to Christ and all his members "and he is lifted up, that is, raised up in pride above everything that is called God" (2 Thess. 2:4), that is, above all the heathen gods, Hercules, Apollo, Jupiter and Mercury, whom the pagans think are gods. Antichrist will be lifted up above these gods because he will make himself greater and stronger than all of them. He will be lifted up not only above these gods, but also "above everything that is worshipped," that is, above the Holy Trinity, which alone is to be worshipped and adored by every creature. "He will exalt himself in such a way that he will be enthroned in God's Temple, displaying himself as if he were God."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/ fr...adsoletter.html

For more info, look up the first 3 commandments, I think falsely calling oneself a god is perhaps the greatest threat for the Christian, Muslim and Jewish Religions (if anyone were to take you seriously). Also look at what the old and new terstament sauys about punishment for such blasphemy. Payback, in the spiritual sense, ain't pretty.


More on Mossad and Al-Qaeda (and ISI/CIA/MI5/MI6):
http://blog.lege.net/content/ fak...fakealqaeda.pdf


Let the Democrats win the House,help them to screw up big in the public eye,then the masses will vote Republican. And the Band plays on............


Thanks for the list.

Everyone check this out and submit an entry.

Gut Check America

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18826755/


Don't think the government is planning to attack Iran? Why would AIPAC go out of their way to make sure our Dictator in Chief has a bill passed that is unConstitutional and allows the Dictator to bybass Congress??

http://www.counterpunch.org/ khan...an05262007.html
Ya'll better wake up....


Could we get a list of the great bumper songs that are being played on the show?
Slamwagoneer | 05.30.07 - 12:41 pm | #
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Well here is a list of songs he plays on his show.

Led Zeppelin- When the Levee Breaks, The Immigrant Song, Babe I'm gonna leave you,All of my Love
AC/DC-For those about to Rock
Gnarls Barkely-Crazy
Paris-What you you do
Bob Dylan-Union Sundown,Masters of War
Blue Oyster Cult - Don't Fear the Reaper
Highwaymen - Highwayman
Hank Williams Jr. -Country Boy Can Survive
Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing
Jimi Hendrix -All Along the Watchtower
Neil Young -Rockin' in the Free World
Tom Petty - Won't Back Down
The Police - Message in a Bottle
Steve Vaus - Renegades
Johnny Cash - Won't Back Down
Johnny Cash - Hurt
Johnny Cash - Personal Jesus
Guns N Roses-Civil War
Ted Nugent-Stranglehold
The Rolling Stones-Gimme Shelter

I know they are more songs but don't know them.


chris jones | 05.30.07 - 7:42 am | #
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thanks chris!


god could you pick a less blasphemous nickname?
Anonymous | 05.30.07 - 3:24 am | #

God is NOT a blasphemous name bro, the only blasphemy Christ Jesus spoke about is against the Holy Spirit.
So~
No, I can't!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


List of bumper tunes.


Could we get a list of the great bumper songs that are being played on the show?


"Amuzed" is only amused because he/she is ignorant. It's a shame.


It isn't just the republicans. The demecrats have to asnswer too.


Why do AMERICAN CITIZENS need to be verified with DHS?? The DHS is supposed to protect American Citizens from FOREIGN NATIONALS.....like New Zealand, Ausralia, and Germany even....their governments protect the CITIZENS. Like I can't go to New Zealand and work if that job takes away a job from a New Zealander. So what the hell is going on here people??? Getter get that shotgun you were always thinking about buying. Things are being brought to the boiling piont as more Americans become aware of their government.


I love the great patriots in this movement, including those who post here.

One thing that would do us all a great service would be to remember the truth in this wise statement:

"Profanity is the attempt of a feeble mind to express itself forcibly."

Too many here grovel in the guttural, profane, degenerate speech of the "feeble minded" and do themselves a disservice, as well as truth. Sounding intelligent, omitting all this needless profanity from our writing certainly lends to credibility, and will not alienate many readers who otherwise, if browsing through these posts, would think those writing profanity labeled posts are degenerate, uneducated, and unschooled. If you have a college education and believe in speaking intelligently, reading a vast amount of the profane posts here is a real turn off. And of course, it proves true in many respects that we are not living up to what we might accomplish if we would expand our vocabulary and not indulge in these vicious, profanity laden posts.


re sane
Ben Affleck talks a lot, but most importantly, it´s just talk:
http://newsbusters.org/node/4815
http://archive.salon.com/politic...s_ny/ index.html
http://newsbusters.org/node/13015
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...ain887447.shtml
He seems to be great at creating noise to divert attention from issues.


re sane
Yeah it´s a real mess, why are banks still legal in the 21st century?


ak-I just reread my post, damn my spelling sucks ass!

just ask for any clarification.

In any case, do you know what the heck is up Ben Affleck's ass? He was on Bill Haher and said that Ron Paul had no chance. The audience almost rioted.

Now he says that Mitt will win the GOP (as if it was planned-heh heh)

He also has his nose so far up al gore's ass he seems completely discredited.

Is he in CFR?


here are a few links that are ofter not talked about:guggenheim's daughter marries Albert Loeb(albert loeb, and co)

Loeb's partner is Loius Rothchild who marries another of meyer guggenheim's daughters.

Also Loius bro Simon marries his partner, Abraham Abraham's daughter.

Simon and Abraham pwned abraham and sraus.

Simon's offspring ends up marrying one of the heads of Kuhn Loeb and Co.

There is also a lot of activity between Abraham and Straus with Macy's

That is all the Rothchild/German Jewish elites connection

It always fascinates me how the Rothchilds can create a nice anchor in almost all power bases in the world.


There is no justification for an illegal war....godless war mongers and their republican party shills who lie and lie and lie....the leadership in the democratic and republican parties are traitors and cowards. i am moving to europe; i refuse to live under a criminal regime and america is going to be one huge concentration camp anyday now. AJ is right and the people on this site know what's up(except amuzed, he's still struggling) and what we are headed for. Bring on your camps, you gd mthrfkng fascists ' cause you can kiss my arse aloha. america, you break my heart, you bitch.


Iraq War Justification Hits Lowest Point in U.S.


http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/...em/itemID/ 15922


oops, wrong planet, everybody over the side; the hour is late, they are closing the gate, no time to decide---abandon city!

Hey, Mr. General, can't you find something else to do for a buck?
Hey, Mr. President, can't you tell the truth, 'cause we've run out of luck---abandon city.


China to catch up with US economy: world poll
? how can people believe what poll results are can i see a copy of the poll ?


re sane
I came across it while reading this http://www.lookingglassnews.org/...php? storyid=121
timeline of the Rothschild family, it is quite odd since it has plenty of detail but excludes such an important thing as the balfour declaration of 1917. There is also no mention of the Order Of Malta. You know me well enough to know i dont pay much attention to the freemason/jesuit branches, but it should be noted in a proper timeline since a Rothschild did present Sinatra with the Maltese Cross, i forget which year so i wish this timeline would remind me.


Please save me all the links. Speak your mind. Tell me your thoughts. Leave the links for a while. God almighty how can anyone follow so many links! What the hell do you think. What the hell can we do. Come up with an original thought, and share it. We are coming down to the end of times and all anyone can do is send me to another youytube or google. Don't you see we all need to start looking UP. God is there. God cares. God isn't going to do this for us. That is what we are here for.


The Colossus of Baghdad
Wonders of the Imperial World
By Tom Engelhardt

http://www.tomdispatch.com/


re sane
Something like that At the moment i am reading about a rather interesting "suicide"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irv_Rubin

In November 2002, while imprisoned at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Los Angeles [3] awaiting trial, Rubin allegedly cut his own throat with a jail-issued safety razor and tumbled [4] off an 18- to 20-foot balcony. The injuries from the fall he suffered resulted in his death at Los Angeles County Hospital several days later.
Some people consider the circumstances surrounding his death to be suspicious


http://demradio.senate.gov/actua...es/rockefeller/
ak48 | 05.30.07 - 7:03 am | #

Just dropping by loading the troops with ammo. Nice!


Yes, it was typing error.


SHUT YOUR SHITHOLE AND FREE US FROM YOUR DRIVEL!
Sir Patrick | 05.30.07 - 2:21 am | #

WHO ARE ' US ' IN YOUR STATEMENT?
Again, I ask, who are you? an illiterate?


Who are you? a illiterate?
Anonymous | 05.30.07 - 8:47 am | #

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I think you mean "an illiterate" not "a illiterate"
Sorry about that but I just couldn´t resist


re Ronald Nazzari
Why are you posting spoof sites?


ANONYMOUS,
AGAIN I ASK, WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TELLING SOMEONE ELSE TO GET OFF THIS FORUM, MEALY-MOUTH PUNK!

SHUT YOUR SHITHOLE AND FREE US FROM YOUR DRIVEL!
Sir Patrick | 05.30.07 - 2:21 am | #

You bloody idiot.
Sir Patrick my ass.
Moron Patrick is the right name for you.

Do you own this forum?
I told that half-wit, Amuzed to do whatever he(or she) liked to do in my last comment.

You could not even read my last comment!
Who are you? a illiterate?


Scared, are you?
Jane Aitken, Bedford


http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbc.../1029/ OPINION03


Is Ron Paul right on Vietnam?

http://www.opednews.com/ articles...ul_right_on.htm


Ron Paul Endorsed By Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt and Paris Hilton

http://www.thespoof.com/news/ spo...adline=s2i19462


Ron Paul Donations Said Double After SC Debate
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com


http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp? nid=42336


Ron Paul Poll.....& interesting comments:

http://www.appscout.com/2007/05/ ...ay_with_ner.php


Ron Paul: Another Kind of Conservative
Presidential candidate challenges Republican Party orthodoxy !


http://english.ohmynews.com/arti...364145& rel_no=1


Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:06 AM CDT
Letter: Ron Paul 'dangerous to the arrogant pigs'


By TOM MARTIN , Shelbyville


http://www.jg-tc.com/articles/ 20...3c844654924.txt


my dream is to confront all the criminal elite in one swift day of reckoning
with videos and handcuffs
(those cheap plastic ties will do)
one day where each criminal elite is assigned a group of fifty truthers in their area
and maybe a couple hundred backup for the sake of arguement
they are immediately charged on the spot
tried on the spot and convicted
like gudge dred
then we farm and build and clean house
its the american dream
you have to be asleep to believe it


Serious about Ron Paul
By Bruce Bartlett


http://washingtontimes.com/comme...85335- 8332r.htm


Ron Paul: The Spoiler?


http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/ ...the_spoiler.php


Re Topic: 9/11 Coincidences (Part Eleven)
- YouTuybe Video.

I clicked on the link but the response is VIDEO NO LONGER AVAILABLE.

Why?


gabe was up late


Liberal Media" Turns Conservative with Ron Paul Running


http://www.thespoof.com/news/ spo...adline=s3i19489


So Who Is Ron Paul, Part 1
By Mike Wacker

http://cornellsun.com/node/23466


Hi folks. I remember when I first checked out this area. I was confused by a few of the posts. For this reason, the newcomers, I decided to post a few facts they may find of interest.
911, The abomination. Professionals, scientists, engineers, demolition experts, eye witnesses, victims families, have attempted to bring the truth to this tragedy. Being a controlled and systematic high tech demoltion. The Government, Regime, has placed blame on NORAD, FAA,Ground controller, Air controllers, FBI, CIA, Fighter pilots, just to mention a few.
WMD’s. Not long after this abomination, we were media ridden with tales of Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, satellite photos were shown, rhetoric of murderous chemical laboratories and factories, Nuclear labs and facilities, etc. In truth this was a deception. Civilian investigators in Iraq found no such labs, factories, or evidence of any kind relating to the US Gov. propaganda. Fact: WMD’s did not exist, this was a blatant deception to invade a foreign nation, defying our constitution, and deceiving Americans.
Estimates of civilian death due to our invasion, are as high as 600,000 civilians killed.
Military US deaths are aproximetly 4,000, though the figures are controlled by our Gov.
War debt lone is 700 billion.
National debt, we are bankrupt, is
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK The Outstanding Public Debt as of 30 May 2007 at 10:27:00 AM GMT is:
$ 8,822,166,526.810.10… The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.30 billion per day since September 29, 2006!
Past experience, Vietnam, 50,000 Americas sons killed, in the south and north of Vietnam four million civilians were killed. J.F.kennedy,. attempted to stop the war, the MIC’s cash register, he was murdered. RFK too, was murdered for the same reason.
"In the counsels of Government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the Military Industrial Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes." –Dwight D. Eisenhower
Habeas Corpus, has been eliminated, nullified.
Torture has been allowed defying our Geneva convention.
Homeland security, figures released confirm this abomination has investigated 01. percent of any terrorist possibility. Out of their 100% capacity.
FEMA, betrayed Americans in Katrina. Ins o much as other countries were attempting to send aid to assist the victims.
The Bush family has been personal friends of the Bin Laden clan for years. Family gatherings are common.
Billions were stolen from the Silverdo scam, of whom Mr, Bush Sr. son was involved.
Prescot Bush was colaberating with the Nazis for profit during WWII.
Survelance was performed illegally by our Government on its citizens.
And Our Illustrious leadervG.Bush declared the constution , just a #### piece of paper.
This is but a few of the signals Americans should be involved in, aroused by, and beware of, our country is being run by a criminal regime, with powerfull backing. The war in Iraq is a deception for profit and power. Amercas freedoms are being invaded by this shadow government.
These parrasites, our Elite elected, are bleeding this country and its people, blood for meny, Human sacrifice, a age od traditon for the elite.


"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."
"In the counsels of Government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the Military Industrial Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes." -


"In the counsels of Government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the Military Industrial Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes." -


http://demradio.senate.gov/actua...es/rockefeller/


Missile shield won't work, so don't build one
By Richard Foster
Last Updated: March 3, 2001
http://www2.jsonline.com:80/ news...ter04030301.asp
At first, it seems like a no-brainer. Russia, though no longer a Cold War threat, still has thousands of nuclear missiles capable of hitting the United States, and control over these nukes - like just about everything else in Russia - is unreliable.
President Vladimir V. Putin won't mash the red button, but a mob headed by a crazed Russian general or scientist could hijack one of these missiles. It's also possible that one could be launched by accident.

Or what about Osama bin Laden or some other terrorist? Or a rogue country? In July 1998, a commission headed by Donald H. Rumsfeld, now the U.S. secretary of defense, warned that the ballistic missile threat to our country is "broader, more mature and evolving more rapidly than has been reported" by U.S. intelligence agencies. Countries like Iran, Iraq or North Korea might be able to develop a missile capable of hitting the United States within as little as five years of a decision to do so, the commission warned.

A few weeks later, as if to ratify this warning, North Korea test-fired a missile that flew over Japan before splashing down in the Pacific Ocean.

In spite of this documented and demonstrated danger, and even though our country possesses some of the best scientific brains in the world, we still don't have a defense against a ballistic missile attack. Isn't it just a matter of common sense to build one? Don't we owe this protection to our children, if not to ourselves?

Along with many others, President Bush has given an emphatic "yes" to both these questions, and he and Rumsfeld have vowed to build such an umbrella.

But there are very solid, very compelling reasons why a defense against a rogue missile attack is not possible, or even necessary.

________________________

Look at the date of this article, same people same BS


Yep. They are gonna use the UN troops to fuck us after they declare martial Law following most likely the next false flag terrorist attack. Then, "Anti social" elements and "dissidents" and or "Enemy combatants" like myself and the rest of you guys will demonized as "Enemies of Peace".
At that point, there is no use running, cause you'll only die tired. So let's give what's for! Red Dawn style.
Gabriel Alan King | 05.30.07 - 3:31 am | #

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Are you making plans with others there in your area? If not. WHy not? I have folks who will come togehter here if and when the time arises. YOU have anyone on your end that knows this stuff and will back you?


GORE/RUSSIAN MOB/CLINTON
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=17655
Vice mayor facilitates gambling
Yeltsin's chosen successor, Vladimir Putin, a former KGB colonel, was tainted by scandal involving the issuing of licenses to gambling casinos when he was vice mayor of St. Petersburg in the early 1990s. Much like the enigmatic and alcoholic Yeltsin, since becoming president this year Putin has done little to stem corruption.

Gore's partner, Chernomyrdin, has been closely associated with a notorious Russian "businessman" Grigory Loutchansky, who owns five banks in Latvia allegedly controlling about $1.2 billion in offshore accounts for Chernomyrdin.

In 1989, Loutchansky, who had served three years of a seven-year sentence in a Soviet prison for corruption and embezzlement, established an Austrian company, Nordex, with government funds. In late 1993 and early 1994, U.S. intelligence agencies reportedly intercepted Nordex communications which suggested that Loutchansky's company was exporting nuclear bomb components to North Korea and Iran.

According to a July 8, 1996, Time magazine article written by S.C. Gwynne and Larry Gurwin, Nordex was also suspected of having shipped mobile Scud missile launchers from North Korea to Saddam Hussein in Iraq during the 1991 Gulf War. These launchers allowed the Iraqis to kill and maim American troops, to conduct a terror campaign against Israel and to delay the invasion of Iraq. Two former CIA directors, John Deutch and James Woolsey, have identified Nordex as tied to Russian criminal activity.

Al Gore's claim to being an expert on Russia rested largely on the commission he co-chaired from 1993 to 1998 with Chernomyrdin. The commission's stated function was assisting foreign business people and companies who wanted to invest in Russia and to try to bail them out if they ran afoul of bureaucrats or were victimized by gun-toting gangsters. During the life of the commission, Gore pointedly overlooked Chernomyrdin's reputation in Russia for promoting corruption.


Yep. They are gonna use the UN troops to fuck us after they declare martial Law following most likely the next false flag terrorist attack. Then, "Anti social" elements and "dissidents" and or "Enemy combatants" like myself and the rest of you guys will demonized as "Enemies of Peace".
At that point, there is no use running, cause you'll only die tired. So let's give what's for! Red Dawn style.


Anon I know you cracked me up when you said that. I also feel weird typing in the name God when I type to him.


Sorry I am so computer dumb,I can't get properties to show up when I right clicked. So no link to my last breaking news.
newbee | 05.30.07 - 3:22 am | #

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That doesn't make you dumb newbee. It makes you unknowlegded on it is all. Not dumb! Go to your help files on your start up and see what you can find on copying URLs' in your spare time. Then try them when you come back on main line
trial and error........


god could you pick a less blasphemous nickname?


Sorry I am so computer dumb,I can't get properties to show up when I right clicked. So no link to my last breaking news.


Believe me-that 5 seconds is huge and must also link the guy to other shit.

ZWhy else woulfd the original video be altered?
sane | 05.30.07 - 3:11 am | #

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you might want to search other so called terrorist attacks like OKC murrah by Tim Mcveigh and see if that POS is anywhere to be seen on the videos of that time?


Their hands are tied is all. But they'll be there for Us when the time comes.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.30.07 - 2:59 am | #
please explain what you mean by this as well as how do you know they will be there for us "when the time comes",we have lost another hundred troops since they capitulated to the "decider" in the last 2 weeks!!!!!!???
God | 05.30.07 - 3:15 am | #

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because not everyone in command postions are traitors and not all troops in our country are stupid. they know what's going on GOD! They have to follow orders like all good soldiers until they have a real good reason not too. And they need Public backing to do so. SEE why it's so important to wake up americans to this?


God, I shouldn't speak for militia man but I will say I don't think he should answer the questions you asked. Just know he knows.


Their hands are tied is all. But they'll be there for Us when the time comes.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.30.07 - 2:59 am | #
please explain what you mean by this as well as how do you know they will be there for us "when the time comes",we have lost another hundred troops since they capitulated to the "decider" in the last 2 weeks!!!!!!???


Hey Guys I am back. Did you know that according to Fox news -Bush has been warned by an American ALQIDA that we can expect another terroist attack if we don't leave Iraq. I think this is how they will justify locking us all up in camps. I will try to list the link. I couldn't sleep.


WE WHERE BETRAYED! By the very people in our government and institutions that thrive off UN agenda. That is being allowed to steal all Freedom & Liberty from America.
It's that simple. And many in our government know what's going on. They live in fear of having their families executed.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.30.07 - 3:06 am | #

Yeah I know about all 15 drills, but this is hardcore evidence. He is not just there:

He says the building is going to blow up-no one said this on camera

he said put the camera down - foreign soldier denying our constitutional rights.

Believe me-that 5 seconds is huge and must also link the guy to other shit.

ZWhy else woulfd the original video be altered?


There IT IS! BIGGER than LIFE! NOW do you believe me about the UN agendas? Foreign UN/NATO troops and equipment being brought here for our take over?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.30.07 - 2:56 am | #

Dear militia,
I was in albuquerque 4 yeqars ago right next to the railroad tracks when a 2 mile long train of flatcars was parked there pointing south! all the tanks (ai abrams) and troop trucks were painted in primer red, (if you know what i mean,if not it is a copper/red color that is painted on metal first before the finsh coat is painted,) anyway, 2 weeks later the same train was back in town,facing north and ALL THE VEHICLES WERE PAINTED U.N. WHITE COMPLETE WITH U.N. INSIGNIA!!!


We need to expose the black ops or there will be regular ground troops.
sane | 05.30.07 - 3:00 am | #

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He was there under, FEMA. sane................
Don't you find it interesting that FEMA was there in NY, for the War games on 9/11? And that this attack was piggy backed on this very Day of Global guardian us/nato war games?
WE WHERE BETRAYED! By the very people in our government and institutions that thrive off UN agenda. That is being allowed to steal all Freedom & Liberty from America.
It's that simple. And many in our government know what's going on. They live in fear of having their families executed.


I am not filled with any worry, I am looking for exposure of this.

He seemed to be black ops not general ground troops.

We need to expose the black ops or there will be regular ground troops.


Cindy Sheehan has called it quits. She just can’t do it anymore, owing to health concerns, on-going frustration, and a sense of desolation about her son’s tragic loss and the fact that we’re still forced to press on with this sinful waste. She knows that means that many more Mary McHughs will come to know and share her anguish.

I can sympathize with her heartbreak. Too many of us felt it in the sucker punch of last week, when – I don’t care how you spin it – the Democrats caved. Yes. Our Democrats. You remember them? They’re the ones for whom we all worked our tails off, most if not all of last year, to win back both houses of Congress. They’re the ones who regained the authority to set the agenda, call the hearings, ask the hard questions, issue the subpoenas, and most urgently of all, Stop The War. They’re the ones who assured us all they had heard the message from the voters and would comply. And they’ve failed. They failed not only to hold George Bush accountable, finally say “NO” to him, and force him to heed the will of the people he supposedly works for. They also failed in compliantly handing him a public relations bonanza that allows him to strut and swagger again like the tin-pot dictator he fancies himself to be. Plus, it threw truckloads of much-needed red meat to the declining numbers of “loyal Bushies” and chickenhawks who still view him as a Sun King. I think that’s what’s called adding insult to injury. Lots of fun-sounding, self-congratulatory platitudes, however, about how this is the beginning of the end and yeah, we sure showed him, and we’re puttin’ on the pressure alright, and what a great day for democracy. More baloney than you can find in all the Oscar Meyer plants in the kingdom. I think that’s what you call the booby prize. Or maybe, in the minds of many of us who now feel betrayed, a fitting “lovely parting gift.”


Their hands are tied is all. But they'll be there for Us when the time comes.


RED DAWN
sane | 05.30.07 - 2:57 am | #

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Like I've been saying, NO?
Don't feel bad buddy. There's a lot of folks who already knwo what';s going on. Some of our assets are in government places. SO? Worry. But know there are good guys watching these people.


There IT IS! BIGGER than LIFE! NOW do you believe me about the UN agendas? Foreign UN/NATO troops and equipment being brought here for our take over?
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.30.07 - 2:56 am | #

I got two words:

RED DAWN


militia-let me know what you see in the video
sane | 05.30.07 - 2:49 am | #

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There IT IS! BIGGER than LIFE! NOW do you believe me about the UN agendas? Foreign UN/NATO troops and equipment being brought here for our take over?


Militia, try this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h? v=9GjmrOzMCGE
sane | 05.30.07 - 2:47 am | #

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checking it out


militia-let me know what you see in the video


4:15 it is there!


Well Folks? I'm a ghost. I have to go check out some stuff. probably catch you tomorrow sometime.
God bless and keep you all. If anyone who reads this is felling like ending it all. I ask that you bow to your knees and find jesus and ask for him to come into your life. It will bring relief. I guaranttee you!
I know. I've been there! Life is worth living............. No matter how bad or hard it gets.
Good night and god bless again!


Militia, try this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h? v=9GjmrOzMCGE


Hey world leaders, see how it is done?????


Same to you Militia man.
newbee | 05.30.07 - 2:35 am | #

God bless and thank you!


and to the rest of you ,I apoligize!
will try to control my temper in the future and stay on topic,
Sir Patrick | 05.30.07 - 2:33 am | #

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Apology excepted, but I really see no need for any forgivenss. You are a Human Being. You will make mistakes. We all do. But it is what we learn from those mistakes that make us better people.


and to the rest of you ,I apoligize!
will try to control my temper in the future and stay on topic,
Sir Patrick | 05.30.07 - 2:33 am | #

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Who of all Men could possibly know Gods ends?
None!


Same to you Militia man.


I stand humbled,thank you,sane.
Sir Patrick | 05.30.07 - 2:32 am | #

just return the favor next time i get all uppity


I havn't had one in weeks. I guess I better go to bed now. Bye Militia man and others.
newbee | 05.30.07 - 2:32 am | #

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Take care, sleep well............


and to the rest of you ,I apoligize!
will try to control my temper in the future and stay on topic,


Militia man, You are right. It is the fear talking in me,and the devil. My mom always said don't hate just dislike what they do.
newbee | 05.30.07 - 2:30 am | #

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That's right. Your mom is a smart Gal. You donot have to hate what others do in this life. But you donot have to give them the recognistion that
gives them more power over others that you love and care for either. ; o )


I wish I had a beer right now.lol

I havn't had one in weeks. I guess I better go to bed now. Bye Militia man and others.


Maybe I am a little revolutionary with this thought, but...

maybe it is better to practice what Jesus taught us rather than throwing his words out like talking points and adhering to none of them (Falwell, robertson, baker are prime examples)
sane | 05.30.07 - 2:30 am | #

I stand humbled,thank you,sane.


maybe it is better to practice what Jesus taught us rather than throwing his words out like talking points and adhering to none of them (Falwell, robertson, baker are prime examples)
sane | 05.30.07 - 2:30 am | #

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YEP! I here that!


Do you seriously think that believing the bullshit of other stupid people makes you smart?

LOL!
Amuzed | 05.30.07 - 2:20 am | #

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Uh Hah! I have no time for You.......This will be the last post I EVER give you time for. BUY BUY!

Damn this place has some fruits on it. (A Walking vegetable garden,= Amuzed)


Maybe I am a little revolutionary with this thought, but...

maybe it is better to practice what Jesus taught us rather than throwing his words out like talking points and adhering to none of them (Falwell, robertson, baker are prime examples)


Militia man, You are right. It is the fear talking in me,and the devil. My mom always said don't hate just dislike what they do.


Pretty dirty mouth for someone who proclaims to know God so well............
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.30.07 - 2:24 am | #

NEVER CLAIMED TO BE PERFECT, MILITA, JUST FORGIVEN!(ALSO IRISH TEMPER) LOL


WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE, BUT THE ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT WAS QUOTED BY THE LORD AS WELL AS THE APOSTLES, THAT IS ALL THEY HAD TO GO BY, JESUS SAID,"I COME NOT TO DO AWAY WITH THE LAW,BUT TO FULFILL IT"

SO THAT STATEMENT ALONE TELLS ME THAT THE OLD TESTAMENT IS NOT OBSOLETE!!


RE: Newbee- It's how you live your lifes travels. Not how much money you make! ; o )


SHUT YOUR SHITHOLE AND FREE US FROM YOUR DRIVEL!
Sir Patrick | 05.30.07 - 2:21 am | #

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Pretty dirty mouth for someone who proclaims to know God so well............


Man It gets harder to sleep every night. I feel like the night watchman.
When will the monkey in the White House pull his shit.? I hate him. What will it take to be free again. Never mind that question I think I already know.
newbee | 05.30.07 - 2:16 am | #

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You shouldn't hate anyone . You can have a didain and disrespect for them, and show them no honor. But donot proclaim to hate anyone.
That's what Evil wants from you. It thrives on it.
Know in your heart and soul that people like bush stand for nothing but self, and people like him. And know you can do better in this life than they. Even if you donot become a millionaire.
Because being a decent person or having a good rich life, doesn't mean becoming MR. Money Bags!


Re : Amuzed the dickhead http://www.haloscan.com/ comments...180501247#85566

Hey Amuzed, your stupid comment really makes me laugh!

You nutball never stop commenting here for some reason.

Do not come back, you idiot!

Nobody welcomes you here!
Anonymous | 05.29.07 - 8:17 pm | #
ANONYMOUS,
AGAIN I ASK, WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TELLING SOMEONE ELSE TO GET OFF THIS FORUM, MEALY-MOUTH PUNK!

SHUT YOUR SHITHOLE AND FREE US FROM YOUR DRIVEL!


No, I post here to get the reactions I get. You all are so wrapped up in you little insane microcosm, you do not realize how insignificant you really are.

This is fun.

.. and what makes you an authority to discuss geo-politics? Do you have a PhD in Political Science? Do you, per chance, work at some university or in some capacity for the government? I doubt it. More than likely you are one of the Moonbat fringe that gets their news off of youtube and google video... or maybe the daily kos?

Do you seriously think that believing the bullshit of other stupid people makes you smart?

LOL!


Not only that but His son Jesus said "not one word, not one jot or title shall pass away, heaven and earth shall pass away but MY word endures FOREVER!!!that, my freind means
Sir Patrick | 05.30.07 - 2:11 am | #

I think it is a bit unholy to mix the Lord's words with others and make it sound as though they are truth. Don't you know the third commandment?

Can't you just engage in logical and reasonable discourse?


Not only that but His son Jesus said "not one word, not one jot or title shall pass away, heaven and earth shall pass away but MY word endures FOREVER!!!

that, my freind means
Sir Patrick | 05.30.07 - 2:11 am | #

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Well of course there's something to be taken from the Old testement. The folly of Man.
And what lead up to the flood and then to Jesus christ coming in the days of Judea.
The 10 commandments are still inforce and are to be followed. But we are forgiven for our sins.
if we recognise jesus as Our savior, correct?
And if we try as mortals living in this Life that we are forced to struggle under evil, to live with love in our hearts.
But God knows that evil prevails in these days. And I am sure that he would understand Good men fighting for what is right.


Sir Patrick,Militia man is good people. I don't come on here much but when I do ,I have respect for him.


Man It gets harder to sleep every night. I feel like the night watchman.
When will the monkey in the White House pull his shit.? I hate him. What will it take to be free again. Never mind that question I think I already know.


NewConstitutionIowaMilitia
YOU ARE NOT A VERY NICE PERSON AND YOU REALLY NEED TO BE TURNED OVER YOUR MOMMIES LAP AND SPANKED FOR THE WAY YOU TREAT AND TALK TO YOUR ELDERS,PUNK!


All of them involved with the Media Monopoly, banking mopoly etc. Big Business jews, are not real moral jews. If there is such a thing?
I have mey a few orthodox jews. They are strange. Even the ones that seem harmless have a way about them . That to me. Comes off as being superior to you & I . Their mentality that towards we ?? Goyhims as they say........
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.30.07 - 1:55 am | #

I still am at a loss to whom you are referring to. I posted earlier the biggest of the big businesses worldwide, not one jew. jews seem to play a part in a sub-elite group in hollywood (by last name only not by jewish in a vultural or religious sense.

But the ones to really look out for are the energy, military, and construction companies. They are quite absent of jews.

also the hollywood boys are working hard to warn us about some f-d up shit.

iRobot, the star wars series, munich, the soldier, arlington road, outbreak, war games, spies like us, etc.

if it was not for some of those movies, i still might believe the gov is great.

As far as TV programming, it is like a communist regime.

Fox gets orders from China (via mrs. murdoch)

NBC takes orders from GE and the military industrial complex

ABC/Disney has no love for jews since walt

viacom is headed by a non practicing jew - but they have so many deals going on all over, there is no allegiance to israel, jewry, etc. They are in India, east europe, everywhere total illuminati.

Anyway, those 4 groups own 99% of what most people see hear and read


Thanks Sane and Militia man.
newbee | 05.30.07 - 2:07 am | #

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No problem!


On the night of June 6th I couldn't sleep, but with troubling thoughts, the time passed fast enough. When I looked at the clock it was already midnight. Getting on my knees I spent quite a while praying, and afterwards I went to bed. The dream that I had that night made me shake all over. It terrified me.

In front of me appeared a man with a handsome face, but he was very big. Standing, he could reach the heavens with his head, but his feet were not on anything solid. There was thunder coming out of his mouth. He took the stars, the moon, and the sun and put them in a tent. Then I saw no more land or people, but only the skies which were like water. I became frightened and asked, "What is happening here? Where are all the people?"

He then showed me a very big tent. Through the crack of the door I saw a very bright light. It was so powerful that I couldn't look at it straight. Through the lightning I heard a voice that said, "Behold, this is the camp of God, in which sit the chosen ones."

When I looked through the light of the tent I saw Christ. Then I heard a voice say, "These are all my redeemed which are on the earth who have a clean life and who are washed in my blood."

After that I heard a loud clap of thunder. Then I woke up. I went and told my family and now I wanted to share it with you.

Revelation 21:3, "And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God."


To you who have studied the old testament,
does this sound familiar??
Sir Patrick | 05.30.07 - 2:00 am | #

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The Old testament doesn't mean scrap anymore.
That was the Old covenant.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.30.07 - 2:05 am | #
sorry militia guy, the word of God, the entire word of God is the same yesterday today and forever, He said Himself, "I change NOT"!!!

Not only that but His son Jesus said "not one word, not one jot or title shall pass away, heaven and earth shall pass away but MY word endures FOREVER!!!

that, my freind means


No one replies to me? Hehe, I seemed to get under your skin easy enough.
Amuzed | 05.30.07 - 2:06 am | #

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Pfft! You aren't getting under my skin moron.
You're about as intelligent as a rock in a hog pen.
Go play in a sand Box where you're wanted.
because you are so full of egotistical nonsense.
And your ego is your only motivational aspiration.
You post to re-read yourself and them claim your superiorority to yourself, in the mirror.


Thanks Sane and Militia man.


"The idea of the KBR contract is to support the Army Corp of Engineers in case we experienced a sudden mass immigration and we had to respond quickly," she said. "We would need immediate detention facilities in the form of temporary housing that would enable us to determine if the large numbers of illegal immigrants were political or economically motivated, or if they were criminals or terrorists."
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We are already experiencing that in the USA. Are they putting illegals in the camps? NOPE!
This is a no brainer.


You're a lossed cause. Why do you think no one really replies to you? And mostly IGNORES you?

You know why? because they have no time to explain adult subjects(Like Geo-Politics), to little children mentalities like you.
NewConstitutionIowaMilitia | 05.30.07 - 1:58 am |
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Dude, learn to write and spell before you spout your petty attempts to insult me.

LOL, I wou