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um the dutch guy and the arab guy are masons watch the hand shanke in the begining of this docu.
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Good morning, dumbasses.
How is life in the paranoid zone?
sane, did you get a job yet?
sane is...
a legend in his own mind
LOL
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What is happening in Iraq is just a microcosm of what has been happing to the world for the past 80 years or more. Being royally raped, and fucked over. The enemy of my enemy is my friend makes no fing sense, and only leads to more chaos. I am sure that American soldiers in Iraq are happy to know that Anerican is arming the same people who will blow them up next week. Hey, but everyone has a job to do.
Three cheers to Jon Stewart though. He just broke down American history into a 3 min piece, and it was f*ing brillian. ROFL.
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the people all over the world
with anxiety issues
should do the same thing the rest of us do
lock and load
nothing solves a anxiety problem like a
thirty round clip in a 92f with laser grips
bye bye anxiety
hello lethal weapon
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06.16.07 - 7:29 am | #
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final chance
sounds like a dr jeckyl/ mr hyde version of alex jones
synical sentiment?
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06.16.07 - 6:43 am | #
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The only thing I would have added to the guy withe the anxiety who called into Alex's show today on the SSRI medication is that when you are making the plan to come off of those medications, you have to do it slowly and make sure that you have support and people that you trust and can talk to about anything. The drugs have to be replaced with human beings that you trust and will be there for you.
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investigate everyting
i believe the things that are full submerged in fact and documentation and eye witness and reality and common sense
if the shoe fits wear it
shortest path between point a and point b is
a straight line
the ends justifies the means
ying and yang
so if the EVIDENCE SAYS WHAT IT IS
THEN THATS WHAT IT IS
JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN
AND THERE WERE OVER FIVE THOUSAND EYE WITNESSES
THE BUSH REGIME AND THEIR WORLD WIDE CRONIES MASTERMINDED AND PULLED OFF 9/11 BECAUSE
THAT IS WHAT ALL THE EVIDENCE SAYS
WE THE PEOPLE CANNOT FULLY ACHIEVE JUSTICE FOR IT
BECAUSE THE CRIMINAL ELITE HAVE SUBVERSIVELY SIEZED CONTROL OF OUR LEADERSHIP
THE MILITARY MEDIA INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX IS COMPLICSANT
SO WE THE PEOPLE DONT GET THE TRUTH FROM ANYBODY BUT OURSELVES AND OUR OWN RESEARCH
RALLY FOR RON PAUL FOR PREZ 08
RALLY FOR ALEX JONES
RALLY FOR GABE
baldmanace | 06.15.07 - 10:26 pm | #
Thank You! The sentiment you have expressed could not have been conveyed better, Sir!
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06.15.07 - 10:31 pm | #
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i investigate everyting
i believe the things that are full submerged in fact and documentation and eye witness and reality and common sense
if the shoe fits wear it
shortest path between point a and point b is
a straight line
the ends justifies the means
ying and yang
so if the EVIDENCE SAYS WHAT IT IS
THEN THATS WHAT IT IS
JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN
AND THERE WERE OVER FIVE THOUSAND EYE WITNESSES
THE BUSH REGIME AND THEIR WORLD WIDE CRONIES MASTERMINDED AND PULLED OFF 9/11 BECAUSE
THAT IS WHAT ALL THE EVIDENCE SAYS
WE THE PEOPLE CANNOT FULLY ACHIEVE JUSTICE FOR IT
BECAUSE THE CRIMINAL ELITE HAVE SUBVERSIVELY SIEZED CONTROL OF OUR LEADERSHIP
THE MILITARY MEDIA INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX IS COMPLICSANT
SO WE THE PEOPLE DONT GET THE TRUTH FROM ANYBODY BUT OURSELVES AND OUR OWN RESEARCH
RALLY FOR RON PAUL FOR PREZ 08
RALLY FOR ALEX JONES
RALLY FOR GABE
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06.15.07 - 10:26 pm | #
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How could any rational individual even conceive that JEWS or CHRISTIANS or MOSLEM'S or pick your poison segment of society could conceive and carry out ANYTHING? Think SHEEP! THINK!!!!!!!!!! When you hear that loud bang, IT IS YOUR HEAD BEING PULLED OUT OF YOUR...............? You figure it out.
finalchance in Texas |
06.15.07 - 8:24 pm | #
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we the people get to live out the end of this life
in the most interesting and eventful current events
in all of history
we are blessed to death
baldmanace | 06.15.07 - 7:48 pm | #
AMEN BROTHER!
Many people through the ages "PRAYED" for the times we reside in!
finalchance in Texas |
06.15.07 - 8:16 pm | #
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we the people get to live out the end of this life
in the most interesting and eventful current events
in all of history
we are blessed to death
baldmanace |
06.15.07 - 7:48 pm | #
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global tax
global leader
global war
temple of solomon #3 rebuilt
ark of the covenant
mideast peace
antichrist
animal sacrifice
seven seals
seven vials
whippin beasts
scarlot whore
dead christians
the beast
the false prophet
the two witnesses
Jesus
milemial reign
lake of fire
great throne judgement
new heaven
new earth
baldmanace |
06.15.07 - 7:47 pm | #
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babylon?
ancient babylon?
nebecunnezer
rapture
prophecy
king from the north?
tribulation
mark of the beast
world church
world army
world money
armageddon
baldmanace |
06.15.07 - 7:42 pm | #
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cnn glenn beck is doing a good job
baldmanace |
06.15.07 - 7:23 pm | #
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gabo
i soiled my soul for 9 hours today
they probably got 20 satan bucks in taxes from me
am i going to hell?
baldmanace |
06.15.07 - 7:17 pm | #
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who screwd up this page?
baldmanace |
06.15.07 - 7:15 pm | #
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glenn beck on headline news right now
talking end of days
good stuff
food for thought
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06.15.07 - 7:13 pm | #
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I do not make bland assertions re Jews nor do I rant and rave because it suits me... The Jews took down 911, nor were they true Jews who are the Sephardim the decendents of Abraham and the Jews mentioned in The Bible, who make up around seven percent of the total. The rest are the Khazars called Zionists who have usurped the function of Judah and established the outlaw Modern State of Israel contrary to Jewish law. The Talmud exhorts Jews to hate... the Zion Jews who took down the WTC respond to that message, TPOTEOZ is some kinda magic document or something I dunno, but the sonova bitch Jews are always going on about it, they took the day off on 911 and sat in front of the TV and watched their workmates tumble to their deaths from the upper levels... Four thousand stayed away... thats how many are gonna die, then take a look at the investors in put options... that could make it hundreds of thousands... even more.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.15.07 - 12:18 am | #
Found a bit more on TPOTEOZ here Freddy...
"Jew hating" is also back in style for a brand new line up of Summer and Fall fashions! This includes fresh accusations, all new rants from your favorite accusers, Talmud thumping, and Nazi KKK stupidity disguised as intelligent and revealing commentary. If you, a decent and concerned citizen, are aware of anyone in your local community who may be "JEWISH", then please immediately contact the proper authorities at 1-800-HAT-EJEW. Or feel free to e-mail the "Ethnic Cleansing Foundation" at www.Racialstereotypes.com Gabriel Alan King | 06.15.07 - 2:42 pm | #
ATTA BOY GABE!!!!
BUT I contend that WHOEVER wrote the protocols have been bringing their stated goals to fruition!! I know satan was the auther of those wicked writings but the proof is in the fact that Nilus
1)DID IN FACT DELIVER A COPY OF THE PROTOCOLS TO THE MUSEUM OF LONDON IN 1906
2) WAS IN RUSSIA WHEN IT WAS A FELONY TO OWN A COPY OF THE PROTOCOLS IN PRE-SOVIET RUSSIA
3) DID IN FACT TRANSLATE THE PROTOCOLS!
REDNECK BUBBA | 06.15.07 - 3:08 pm | #
Freddy, the anti-semite hijackers of 9-11 truth. Sole purpose: to divide it so that the truth will never be revealed. Keep doing your country proud. sane | 05.16.07 - 10:35 pm | #
Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower, is an air to ground missile which impacted WTC 6 moments later… Most visible at this link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...related&
search=
…as the second jet rammed its target, ‘…That was an explosion,’ says Stephen McArdle a tax consultant, from inside the Marriot Hotel, he was taping as part of an FBI sting operation. …Then comes a longer and much louder explosion. Greg Smith 2002. The second explosion is in fact the detonation of the missile’s warhead…
This is the Jew response: “…Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower...” Aw crap. 1984 | 06.13.07 - 10:31 pm | #
They are using the same old well worn canard, that criminal Jews have been relying on for centuries. Claiming that justice seekers who have identified Jews as criminals, are not interested in prosecuting criminality at all, but are venting hatred against Jews simply because they are Jews.
Jews Jews Jews the Jews did it, now they gotta suffer... cast your mind forward ... there's Jews being gassed at the WTC site... I decided to kill 'em with monoxide, forty bulldozers and a hundred Mack trucks have been waiting, their engines idling... Inside the chamber Jews are tethered in long lines, there are a few spasmodic attempts at jocularity and a small amount of singing... These are the four thousand who failed to show up on 911. The exhaust from the diesel engines has been hosed into a header and I activate the mechanism that diverts the lethal fumes into the glass walled chamber... Outside in the snow those who want to, witness the death of the Jews. Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:03 pm | #
I think that we should love and support the people of the Jewish race, who are victims of propaganda. They are just normal folk like you and me. Don't buy into the "hate the Jews" crap. Get to know some Jewish people. Make friends. Love them. Gabriel Alan King #
Seems the Jew friends of those killed at the WTC on 911, after bidding them a fine and friendly farewell on the Monday evening. Stayed away from work the next day aware that the attacks were to happen, then watched their immolation live on TV. Thats why I hate the Kike sonsa bitches.
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humain? why give corters to thoes who press against you? eye for eye as god says....let justice be done to the wiked that rule the earth.
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an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind - gandhi
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humain? why give corters to thoes who press against you? eye for eye as god says....let justice be done to the wiked that rule the earth.
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may all the zionest pigs and dogs pay for their treason agains humanity.
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and what is your humane paln for doing this?
sane |
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06.15.07 - 3:13 pm | #
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"Jew hating" is also back in style for a brand new line up of Summer and Fall fashions!
This includes fresh accusations, all new rants from your favorite accusers, Talmud thumping, and Nazi KKK stupidity disguised as intelligent and revealing commentary.
Inside circles are buzzing with rumors that the Fall line up may include an all new array of exciting colors. Including Black, White, and every thing in between!!!!!
If you, a decent and concerned citizen, are aware of anyone in your local community who may be "JEWISH", then please immediately contact the proper authorities at 1-800-HAT-EJEW.
Or feel free to e-mail the "Ethnic Cleansing Foundation" at www.Racialstereotypes.com
Gabriel Alan King | 06.15.07 - 2:42 pm | #
ATTA BOY GABE!!!!
BUT I contend that WHOEVER wrote the protocols have been bringing their stated goals to fruition!!
I know satan was the auther of those wicked writings but the proof is in the fact that Nilus
1)DID IN FACT DELIVER A COPY OF THE PROTOCOLS TO THE MUSEUM OF LONDON IN 1906
2) WAS IN RUSSIA WHEN IT WAS A FELONY TO OWN A COPY OF THE PROTOCOLS IN PRE-SOVIET RUSSIA
3) DID IN FACT TRANSLATE THE PROTOCOLS!
REDNECK BUBBA |
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may all the zionest pigs and dogs pay for their treason agains humanity.
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Alex Jones. The "Energizer Bunny" of the truth movement. Keep going Alex.
Gabriel Alan King |
06.15.07 - 2:54 pm | #
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"Jew hating" is also back in style for a brand new line up of Summer and Fall fashions!
This includes fresh accusations, all new rants from your favorite accusers, Talmud thumping, and Nazi KKK stupidity disguised as intelligent and revealing commentary.
Inside circles are buzzing with rumors that the Fall line up may include an all new array of exciting colors. Including Black, White, and every thing in between!!!!!
If you, a decent and concerned citizen, are aware of anyone in your local community who may be "JEWISH", then please immediately contact the proper authorities at 1-800-HAT-EJEW.
Or feel free to e-mail the "Ethnic Cleansing Foundation" at www.Racialstereotypes.com
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Items I have been ruthless about: VT False Flag and the connection to health records and national database
the division diruption of the 911 truth movement by cCOINTELPRO with the jewish/alies/nuke theories
The real warmongers in israel behind the curtains
the dozens of high crimes committed by AEI
Nanotech docs
cheneys money going to al-qaeda
watever just look back and see if it is truly that painful to have these threads a lasting memory of truth. Many poriginal stories are being scrubbed and it is important to document the full truth.
ok rant over
sane |
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06.15.07 - 2:34 pm | #
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AT www.Tedgunderson.com
look at the information on American concentration camps. New info was given by an FBI agent involving "Red", and "Blue" lists.
A "Red list" person, is one who believes in resisting tyranny by force. Hardcore Christians and Constitutionalists with guns. These are targeted for round up and termination before martial law.
A "Blue list" person, is one who is a peaceful resister of the NWO. These are targeted for martial law roundup, and termination thereafter.
The FBI agent who gave us this did, BECAUSE HE FOUND HIS OWN NAME ON THE LIST!!!!!!!!
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As a general note, if you cannot concentrate for more than 20 words, this may be a problem greater than my blogging. I thy to read every word on this blog as you know. It is truly the only blog I know where COINTELPRO can get immediately outed, where solid research rewards the common man and where I can admit to my growing failures while people see the advantage in being honest. My commitment is to communicate truth and learn more through all of you. We all have our style and mine is not in the mainstream. Pleas elook at the research I put in and the things I choose to expand on. Pkease criticize a post and why it is unacceptable. Have you ever seen me fail to engage in logical conversaton?
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Yah, Sane, if you could print a little less on the page and put the links with a brief explanation, that would be nice. Or start up your own blog page and copy your comments there if they are long and link to that. Long posts are ok from time to time. But all the time is really distracting from what other people are trying to say. We love you Sane! Thanks man. ; )
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I only do it when i feel it is appropriate, but thanks for the feedback.
Also this is the only blog where people print then research. I would hate to see it turn into a rockefeller/rothchild education program. Many links go down later and the content is important like AJ link to the BP sex scandal.
sane |
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06.15.07 - 2:20 pm | #
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Thanks for all your attention, I do love attention as you know
sane | Homepage | 06.15.07 - 9:19 am | #
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It is for that reason, that many of the regulars,
who have posted here since this board's humble
beginnings, Have left !!
Thanks sane.
Marcianne | 06.15.07 - 11:31 am | #
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Maybe, wow, I guess I am important 
sane |
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06.15.07 - 2:18 pm | #
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Yah, Sane, if you could print a little less on the page and put the links with a brief explanation, that would be nice. Or start up your own blog page and copy your comments there if they are long and link to that. Long posts are ok from time to time. But all the time is really distracting from what other people are trying to say. We love you Sane! Thanks man. ; )
TimM |
06.15.07 - 2:13 pm | #
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http://www.metacafe.com/watch/48...in_the_name_of/
little goodie I stumbled upon
Sees Things |
06.15.07 - 12:37 pm | #
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God bless and have mercy on you all.
DeeDee | 06.15.07 - 11:39 am | #
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it takes a while to see it and understand it
some topics get their own comment page...
and a lot of comments
get dumped to a couple "catch all" comment pages.
sometimes it makes things fun, sometimes not...
and often these comment pages get loaded up
with more links to more info from other places...
usually its pretty good stuff.
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These posts are SUPPOSED to be about the Six Day War.
Egypt, Jordan and Syria surrounded Israel and attacked them. Iraq, Saudia Arabia and Algiers contributed troops. In the months proceeding the Six Day War Egypt expelled the U.N. Peace Force from the Sinai Peninsula, increased its military activity near the border, blockaded the Straits of Tiran to Israel ships and called for unified Arab action against Israel.
Now...all of you who don't like facts, who want to stray OFF THE SUBJECT AT HAND and write about ALL the things Israel has done or is doing now is NOT THE POINT. This is supposed to be about the Six Day War.
And because you who all like to stray off the truth - those who are supposed to love truth so much - won't write about the subject.
And, once again, I ask and NO ONE, including Alex Jones, has answered - since WHEN do you believe someone from the U.N.?
And, why are so many of you SO happy to write ugly things about Israel? Including those who say they're Jews but don't care about their country being chopped up in pieces.
God bless and have mercy on you all.
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Thanks for all your attention, I do love attention as you know
sane | Homepage | 06.15.07 - 9:19 am | #
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It is for that reason, that many of the regulars,
who have posted here since this board's humble
beginnings, Have left !!
Thanks sane.
Marcianne |
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The law of the gun. He who has the gun makes the laws.
1776jedi |
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i chalange any one watching this post especialy the feds to show the law in ed browns case that says we have to pay the tax any one wana step up ???????????
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../
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06.15.07 - 10:21 am | #
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If I may be permitted to 'bombard' (sorry) this Post a bit further of my own as regards Ron Paul -- Check this out:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/
...everything.html
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As a reminder for Ron Paul fans //
If you're a registered Republican (like I am, still don't forget it's important for you to register that vote for Ron Paul in your State's Primary -- that's the way we get him printed on the ballot, folks.
Here's what 'wiki' has recapped on this fine gentleman so far to-date:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron...ampaign%
2C_2008
jbrid1138 |
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Immigration under the present changes Bush has inflicted upon us will definetly cause domestic strife.
End result, people will butt heads, rather than looking as to who brought this about, who is responsible, people will become violent. gangs and sects will emerge, violence will be the forthcoming.
This is what they want, martial law willl begin, is this not the whole idea behind their charade. Are they not prepared for this, in fact anxiously waiting for it.
A war rages on and this Government is preparing for doemstic conflict. CONTROL< FEAR.
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Sane, how many Alex Jones posts you make each day? several hundred?
About that
What was your hustle again? Oh yeah, THE OLD HUSTLE.
??? Please elaborate
Does Cheney, the Neo-cons, Bush ect, SELF DECLARE themselves.. philo-semite Israel devotees.. or as anti-semites?
I have no idea what they declare, however it is obvious in the past 6 years they have made matters quite poor so I believe they care little about anyone who is not an elite notwithstanding their religious or cultural ideals.
That is your hustle..
Please elaborate, is it your brlief that all humans husle, have you been hustled one too many times> If you wish to discuss some pain you might have experienced in the past I am sure we are open to it.
Every pro-Semite caught in a crime, is 'secretly' an anti-semite? Yeah?
I do not believe this is true. As far as any jew or catholic or muslim caught in mass murder for profit...i do not believe they worship a good and holy god. They most definitely do not wordhip that jew jesus.
So, ANTI-SEMITES ARE GUILTY OF ALL KNOWN CRIME. If a Zionist Jew is caught, he is a fake Zionist Jew and actually an anti-semite. If an anti-semite is caught, he is an anti-semite.
Why would you say something so preposterous?
Wow. Amazing how that works.
Please elaborate, ths does not logically follow as you have clearly ansered your questions to me in a way that lacks truth.
So, Recently the Israelis shot a car with a tank shell with FIVE CHILDREN INSIDE.. all killed.
That sounds like a war crime to me, do you have a link?
Let me guess.. either A) anti-semites were in an Israeli tank shooting children B) Oh I have it, anti-semites planted that fake anti-semite story, because Israelis would never hurt anyone. They are always angelic victims of anti-semitism.
Where are you getting your information, that sounds preposterous, why would you defend one person just because he is jewish. That is racist and defies logic.
Hahahaha
Please elaborate. Again you seem to be falsely answering your own questions and then giving preposterous conclusions. These seem like patterns that distinguish a lack of skills of logic. Here are some reading material for you:
As ZIONISISM... FLOODS WITH SPAM, every discussion thread.. how many posts do you spam in a row? 5-7? then repeat them on the same thread, so you always have last word?
Please elaborate when my responses were uncalled for.
Talk about smoking gun proof, Israel is America's BIGGEST ENEMY.
I think you may have the term smoking gun confused with something else. I would recommend Webster's.
Alex Jones does everything in his power to not call out the Zionists for their evils. Pretty hard, since the slime of Zionism is fingerprinted on every problem.
If you are referring to Israel, he has posted an article a day about the war crimes and deceptions to justify the actiuons for US and them. The US never mentions a thing about it, giving at least circumstantiol ecidence that they shared the inerest if not created the issue themselves. For example the USS LIberty was instigated 100% bu Johnson himself.
Poor wittle Sane, the gentile convert who is a supremacy racist of a race he is not even in, and even worse, murders actual racial semites with glee.
Please elaborate, I believe in church and state and the freedom and equality of all races and religions.
A TANK full of CONVERT CAUCASIANS, just shelled FIVE SEMITE CHILDREN, for their 'anti-Semitism'
I do no understand this sentence, could you explain?
Palestinians are VICTIMS OF NAZI BEHAVIOR.
That is a fair assessment, however I think they are more a victim of an occupation, one that less israelis agree with. I also think that the occupation in Iraq has far greater mideast warcrimes.
Only nazis anywhere are ZIONISTS, doing the murdering.
Could you elaborate and explain, this does not seem to make sense, but maybe you have some proof I am not familiar with.
Spam more, little piggy. That is what you do when you are humiliated... and this certainly calls for it.
How did you know I was fat and like to eat?
PAUL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR PAUL
I believe attaching your post to this statement does RP more harm than good, could you at least welaborate on your issues before attaching this statement to someone who might not even be able to follow standard rules of logic?
911nsidejob | 06.15.07 - 8:48 am | #
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Thanks for all your attention, I do love attention as you know
sane |
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I know this has been bouncing around the forum a few days now -- but take a look at the video being shown on MILITARY . COM regarding the same:
Gay Bomb --
http://shock.military.com/Shock/...e=2&
ESRC=dod.nl
jbrid1138 |
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In act of desperation, Pentagon arming Iraq’s Sunni groups
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/ne...php?
newid=11316
R.R.N. |
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Austria smashes major global child porn ring
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VIENNA (Reuters) — Austria has smashed a global child pornography ring involving 2,361 suspects from 77 states who paid to watch videos showing children subjected to “the worst kind of sexual abuse”, the Interior Ministry said on Wednesday.
Officials said 607 of the suspects were in the United States, 406 in Germany, 114 in France and 23 in Austria. But hits on a Russian web page that offered the videos were registered in countries ranging from Algeria to Iceland and Venezuela.
None of the suspects had been arrested. But Austrian police were pooling findings with law-enforcement counterparts in other countries in hopes of bringing about prosecutions, Interior Minister Guenther Platter told a news conference.
The videos downloaded from the Internet and seized by Austrian criminal investigators displayed “the worst kind of sexual abuse of children”, he said, adding that the youngest victimised girl was 5 years old.
Harald Gremel, an Austrian police expert on Internet crime overseeing the investigation, said the case arose last July when the operator of a Vienna-based Internet firm notified police that hackers had uploaded suspicious material onto its server.
The videos were accessible via a link to a Russian Web site that offered them for downloading. In a 24-hour period, police recorded more than 8,000 hits from 2,361 computer addresses.
Gremel said investigators believed the videos were produced in eastern Europe and uploaded to the site from Britain.
Platter said 14 of the 23 Austrian suspects had confessed to downloading the illegal material. They included students, government employees and retired people.
Austrian police had seized 31 desktop computers, seven laptops, 23 hard disks and other storage devices, 1,132 DVDs, 1,428 diskettes and 213 video-cassettes. Access to the Internet site has been shut down, the ministry said.
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Sane, how many Alex Jones posts you make each day? several hundred?
What was your hustle again? Oh yeah, THE OLD HUSTLE.
Does Cheney, the Neo-cons, Bush ect, SELF DECLARE themselves.. philo-semite Israel devotees.. or as anti-semites?
That is your hustle..
Every pro-Semite caught in a crime, is 'secretly' an anti-semite? Yeah?
So, ANTI-SEMITES ARE GUILTY OF ALL KNOWN CRIME. If a Zionist Jew is caught, he is a fake Zionist Jew and actually an anti-semite. If an anti-semite is caught, he is an anti-semite.
Wow. Amazing how that works.
So, Recently the Israelis shot a car with a tank shell with FIVE CHILDREN INSIDE.. all killed.
Let me guess.. either A) anti-semites were in an Israeli tank shooting children B) Oh I have it, anti-semites planted that fake anti-semite story, because Israelis would never hurt anyone. They are always angelic victims of anti-semitism.
Hahahaha
As ZIONISISM... FLOODS WITH SPAM, every discussion thread.. how many posts do you spam in a row? 5-7? then repeat them on the same thread, so you always have last word?
Talk about smoking gun proof, Israel is America's BIGGEST ENEMY.
Alex Jones does everything in his power to not call out the Zionists for their evils. Pretty hard, since the slime of Zionism is fingerprinted on every problem.
Poor wittle Sane, the gentile convert who is a supremacy racist of a race he is not even in, and even worse, murders actual racial semites with glee.
A TANK full of CONVERT CAUCASIANS, just shelled FIVE SEMITE CHILDREN, for their 'anti-Semitism'
Palestinians are VICTIMS OF NAZI BEHAVIOR.
Only nazis anywhere are ZIONISTS, doing the murdering.
Spam more, little piggy. That is what you do when you are humiliated... and this certainly calls for it.
PAUL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR PAUL
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Mideast Update:
Hamas just kicked the living shit out of Al-Qaeda (rumor is all neighboring states helped - Including Isreali covert ops). Condoleeza Rice offered to send in US peace keepers - all neighboring states told her to go fuck herself!! When are we going to get a real state department? Also - Ron Paul was just on Tucker and he confirmed that Israel would be a lot happier if US stopped messing around with their direct peace talks.
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Mainstream Media Spin on Hamas kicking the shit out of Al-Qaeda....
History...Hamas won the Palestinian Elections...US declined to accept the victory.
Fatah movement worked a deal with Cheney's Al-Qaeda and took over areas of Tripoli and Gaza. This was disclosed by Sy Hersh.
All neighboring countries realized Al-Qaeda being in the area sucked ass. They worked with Hamas to get rid of Al-Qaeda and their harboring group Fatah. This effectively dismantled the US Palestinian Authority that was never meant to provide a Palestinian State. Many Palestinians realized this and let Hamas know about the Al-Qaeda infiltration.
Now CNN/MSNBC/FOX is saying that Hamas is making peace difficult by killing Palestinians. WTF?????
Hamas won the Palestinian election, don't these fuckers read books???? Hamas is killing Al-Qaeda, you know the ones Bush blames for 9/11 and Cheney blames for Iraq.
Now Cheney is pissed that he has no more mercenaries in the area so he told Rice to get some "peacekeepers" in the area. Unanimously everyone in the area told Rice, no thanks.
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>>>>US Proxy State of Israel Exposed: How Washington Goaded Israel for over 50 years
Stephen Zunes | August 21, 2006
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/3444
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There is increasing evidence that Israel instigated a disastrous war on Lebanon largely at the behest of the United States. The Bush administration was set on crippling Hezbollah, the radical Shiite political movement that maintains a sizable block of seats in the Lebanese parliament. Taking advantage of the country's democratic opening after the forced departure of Syrian troops last year, Hezbollah defied U.S. efforts to democratize the region on American terms. The populist party's unwillingness to disarm its militia as required by UN resolution—and the inability of the pro-Western Lebanese government to force them to do so—led the Bush administration to push Israel to take military action. In his May 23 summit with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, President George W. Bush offered full U.S. support for Israel to attack Lebanon as soon as possible. Seymour Hersh, in the August 21 New Yorker, quotes a Pentagon consultant on the Bush administration's longstanding desire to strike “a preemptive blow against Hezbollah.” The consultant added, “It was our intent to have Hezbollah diminished, and now we have someone else doing it.” Israel was a willing partner. Although numerous Israeli press reports indicate that some Israeli officials, including top military officials, are furious at Bush for pushing Olmert into war, the Israeli government had been planning the attack since 2004. According to a July 21 article in the San Francisco Chronicle, Israel had briefed U.S. officials with details of the plans, including PowerPoint presentations, in what the newspaper described as “revealing detail.” Political science professor Gerald Steinberg of Bar-Ilan University told the Chronicle that “[O]f all of Israel's wars since 1948, this was the one for which Israel was most prepared. In a sense, the preparation began in May 2000, immediately after the Israeli withdrawal …” Despite these preparations, the Bush administration and congressional leaders of both parties tried to present the devastating attacks, which took as many as 800 civilian lives, as a spontaneous reaction to Hezbollah's provocative July 12 attack on an Israeli border post and its seizure of two soldiers. Some reports have indicated that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was less sanguine than Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, or President Bush about the proposed Israeli military offensive. Rumsfeld apparently believed that Israel should focus less on bombing and more on ground operations, despite the dramatically higher Israeli casualties that would result. Still, Hersh quotes a former senior intelligence official as saying that Rumsfeld was “delighted that Israel is our stalking horse.” The recent announcement of a shaky ceasefire may represent only a minor speed bump in U.S. plans. After all, the attack on Hezbollah was only the first stage of what the Bush administration apparently hopes will be a joint redrawing of the Middle East map.
On to Iran and Syria?
On July 30, the Jerusalem Post reported that President Bush pushed Israel to expand the war beyond Lebanon and attack Syria. Israeli officials apparently found the idea “nuts.” This idea was not exactly secret. In support of the Israeli offensive, the office of the White House Press Secretary released a list of talking points that included reference to a Los Angeles Times op-ed by Max Boot, senior fellow for national security studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. The article, “It's Time to Let the Israelis Take Off the Gloves,” urges an Israeli attack against Syria. “Israel needs to hit the Assad regime. Hard,” argues Boot. “If it does, it will be doing Washington's dirty work.” Iran, too, was in the administration's sights. T he Israeli attack on Lebanon, according to Seymour Hersh, was to “serve as a prelude to a potential American preemptive attack to destroy Iran's nuclear installations.” But first, the Bush administration needed to get rid of Hezbollah's capacity to retaliate against Israel in the event of a U.S. strike on Iran, which apparently prompted Hezbollah's buildup of Iranian-supplied missiles in the first place. Starting this spring, according to Hersh, the White House ordered top planners from the U.S. air force to consult with their Israeli counterparts on a war plan against Iran that incorporated an Israeli pre-emptive strike against Hezbollah. Lieutenant General Dan Halutz, the chief of staff of the Israeli military and principal architect of the war on Lebanon, worked with U.S. officials on contingency planning for an air war with Iran. The Bush administration's larger goal apparently has been to form an alliance of pro-Western Sunni Arab dictatorships—primarily Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan—against a growing Shiite militancy exemplified by Hezbollah and Iran and, to a lesser extent, post-Saddam Iraq. Though these Sunni regimes initially spoke out against Hezbollah's provocative capture of the two Israeli soldiers that prompted the Israeli attacks, popular opposition within these countries to the ferocity of the Israeli assault led them to rally solidly against the U.S.-backed war on Lebanon.
In Israel's Interest?
In the years prior to Israel's July 12 bombing of Lebanese cities, Hezbollah had become less and less of a threat. It had not killed any Israeli civilians for more than a decade (with the exception of one accidental fatality in 2003 caused by an anti-aircraft missile fired at an Israeli plane that violated Lebanese airspace). Investigations by the Congressional Research Service, the State Department, and independent think tanks failed to identify any major act of terrorism by Hezbollah for over a dozen years. Prior to the attack, Hezbollah's militia had dwindled to about 1000 men under arms—this number tripled after July 12 when reserves were called up—and a national dialogue was going on between Hezbollah and the government of pro-Western prime minister Fuad Siniora regarding disarmament. The majority of Lebanese opposed Hezbollah, both its reactionary fundamentalist social agenda as well as its insistence on maintaining an armed presence independent of the country's elected government. Thanks to the U.S.-backed Israeli attacks on Lebanon's civilian infrastructure, however, support for Hezbollah, according to polls, has grown to more than 80%, even within the Sunni Muslim and Christian communities. Even Richard Armitage, a leading hawk and deputy secretary of state under President Bush during his first term, noted that “[T]he only thing that the bombing has achieved so far is to unite the population against the Israelis.” Despite U.S. encouragement that Israel continue the war, Israel's right-wing prime minister has come under increasing criticism at home, with polls from the Haaretz newspaper indicating that only 39% of Israelis would support the planned expansion of the ground offensive. Meretz Party Knesset member Ran Cohen, writing in the Jerusalem Post, called earlier moves to expand the ground offensive “a wretched decision.” Yariv Oppenheimer, general director of Peace Now, which had earlier muted its criticism of the attacks on Lebanon, noted that “[T]he war has spiraled out of control and the government is ignoring the political options available.” Not only have a growing number of Israelis acknowledged that the war has been a disaster for Israel, there is growing recognition of U.S. responsibility for getting them into that mess. A July 23 article in Haaretz about an anti-war demonstration in Tel Aviv noted that “this was a distinctly anti-American protest” that included “chants of ‘We will not die and kill in the service of the United States,' and slogans condemning President George W. Bush.” Members of Congress who have unconditionally backed Israel's attacks on Lebanon have responded to constituent outrage by claiming they were simply defending Israel's legitimate interests. In supporting the Bush administration, however, they have defended policies that cynically use Israel to advance the administration's militarist agenda.
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>>>>US Proxy State of Israel Exposed: How Washington Goaded Israel for over 50 years
Stephen Zunes | August 21, 2006
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Who's Anti-Semitic?
One of the more unsettling aspects of the broad support in Washington for the use of Israel as U.S. proxy in the Middle East is how closely it corresponds to historic anti-Semitism. In past centuries, the ruling elite of European countries would, in return for granting limited religious and cultural autonomy, established certain individuals in the Jewish community as the visible agents of the oppressive social order, such as tax collectors and moneylenders. When the population threatened to rise up against the ruling elite, the rulers could then blame the Jews, channeling the wrath of an exploited people against convenient scapegoats. The resulting pogroms and waves of repression took place throughout the Jewish Diaspora. Zionists hoped to break this cycle by creating a Jewish nation-state where Jews would no longer be dependent on the ruling elite of a given country. The tragic irony is that, by using Israel to wage proxy war to promote U.S. hegemony in the region, this cycle is being perpetuated on a global scale. This latest orgy of American-inspired Israeli violence has led to a dangerous upsurge in anti-Semitism in the Middle East and throughout the world. In the United States, many critics of U.S. policy are blaming “the Zionist lobby” for U.S. support for Israel's attacks on Lebanon rather than the Bush administration and its bipartisan congressional allies who encouraged Israel to wage war on Lebanon in the first place. Unfortunately, most anti-war protests in major U.S. cities have targeted the Israeli consulate rather than U.S. government buildings. By contrast, during the 1980s, protests against the U.S.-backed violence in El Salvador rarely targeted Salvadoran consulates, but instead more appropriately took place outside federal offices and arms depots, recognizing that the violence would not be taking place without U.S. weapons and support.
Israel is no banana republic. Even those like Hersh who recognize the key role of the Bush administration in goading Israel to attack Lebanon emphasize that rightist elements within Israel had their own reasons, independent of Washington, to pursue the conflict. Still, given Israel's enormous military, economic, and political dependence on the United States, this latest war on Lebanon could not have taken place without a green light from Washington. President Jimmy Carter, for example, was able to put a halt to Israel's 1978 invasion of Lebanon within days and force the Israeli army to withdraw from the south bank of the Litani River to a narrow strip just north of the Israeli border. By contrast, the Bush administration and an overwhelming bipartisan majority of Congress clearly believed it was in the U.S. interest for Israel to pursue Washington's “dirty work” for an indefinite period, regardless of its negative implications for Israel's legitimate security interests.
Domestic Political Implications
Given the lack of success of the Israeli military campaign, U.S. planners are likely having second thoughts about the ease with which a U.S.-led bombing campaign could achieve victory over Iran. However, the propensity of the Bush administration to ignore historical lessons should not be underestimated. A former senior intelligence official told Hersh that “[T]here is no way that Rumsfeld and Cheney will draw the right conclusion about this. When the smoke clears, they'll say it was a success, and they'll draw reinforcement for their plan to attack Iran.” Indeed, on August 14, President Bush declared that Israel had achieved “victory” in its fight against Hezbollah. The outspoken support of congressional Democrats for Bush's policies and Israel's war on Lebanon portends similar support should the United States ignore history and common sense and attack Iran anyway. Both the Senate and House, in backing administration policy, claimed that, contrary to the broad consensus of international opinion, Israel's military actions were consistent with international law and the UN Charter. By this logic, if Israel's wanton destruction of a small democratic country's civilian infrastructure because of a minor border incident instigated by members of a 3000-man militia of a minority party is a legitimate act of self-defense, surely a similar U.S. attack against Iran—a much larger country with a sizable armed force whose hard-line government might be developing nuclear weapons—could also be seen as a legitimate act of self-defense. Ironically, political action committees sponsored by liberal groups such as MoveOn.org, Peace Action, and Act for Change continue to support the election or re-election of Congressional candidates who have voiced support for Washington's proxy war against Lebanon despite massive Israeli violations of international humanitarian law, its serving as a trial run for a U.S. war against Iran, and its being against Israel's legitimate self-interests. And, unfortunately, on the other extreme, some of the more outspoken elements that have opposed America's proxy war against Lebanon frankly do not have Israel's best interest in mind.
As a result, without a dramatic increase in protests by those who see Washington's cynical use of Israel as bad for virtually everyone, there is little chance this dangerous and immoral policy can be reversed.
Stephen Zunes is Middle East editor for the Foreign Policy In Focus Project. He is a professor of Politics and the author of Tinderbox: U.S. Middle East Policy and the Roots of Terrorism (Common Courage Press, 2003).
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Raising the Stakes
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4305
Anti-occupation rally in Washington, D.C., June 10, 2007. Photo by Thomas J. Dooley.
Kevin Martin concluded his email by invoking Martin Luther King Jr.’s dictum that “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” More is at stake than the Palestinian people suffering under foreign military occupation and the Israeli people’s long-term security. As long as the Israeli government can get away with its violations of universally recognized norms regarding international law, human rights and non-proliferation, it will be difficult to enforce these norms anywhere.
Israel will not end its occupation, colonization, and repression in the Palestinian territories as long as the Israeli government continues to receive unconditional military, financial and diplomatic support from the Bush administration. The Bush administration will not end its military, financial, and diplomatic support for the Israeli government as long as the Democratic-controlled Congress continues to support the Bush administration’s policies toward the conflict. And the Democrats will not end their support for the Bush administration’s policies until the peace movement refuses to support any candidate who does.
Unfortunately, the political action committees affiliated with Peace Action, MoveOn, Act for Change, Council for a Livable World, and other otherwise progressive organizations have yet to make that commitment. Endorsing demonstrations and passing policy statements opposing the occupation are good and important. But lawmakers will ignore such statements and demonstrations until they recognize that there will be political consequences for their pro-occupation votes and public statements.
The perceived clout of the pro-occupation lobby on Capitol Hill may be less a result of the actual strength of the American Israel Public Action Committee and other right-wing groups as it is the relative weakness of the anti-occupation lobby. Similarly, the perceived influence of pro-occupation contributors and voters in election campaigns is less a reflection of their overall support as it is the unwillingness of progressive contributors and voters to make opposition to U.S. support for the Israeli occupation a decisive factor in determining whether to contribute to a campaign or to vote for a candidate.
Fortunately, this is beginning to change, as the U.S. Campaign against the Israeli Occupation and other groups have emerged in recent years to put pressure on members of Congress and multi-issue peace and human rights groups are beginning to become bolder in addressing this issue as well.
As the campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination heats up, it is critically important that those in the peace movement make clear to the contenders that we will refuse to back anyone who fails to challenge the Bush administration’s support for the Israeli occupation. We must also make clear to progressive organizations that endorse candidates for national office based upon their foreign policy positions that they must either refuse to back any candidate who supports the occupation or lose our support of their organization. This is not a single-issue approach. Rather, it is a matter of consistency, of applying progressive principles of human rights and international law to U.S. policy toward Israel and Palestine just as the peace movement applied them to U.S. policy toward Nicaragua, El Salvador, South Africa, and East Timor.
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Jack and Jill went up the hill
They each had a dollar and a quarter
Jill came down with two-fifty
You think they went up for water?
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Sorry, BALDMANACE -- Your posting style triggered that poem in my memory. You do have a way of expression I wish I had // short and to the point.
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gabe is my blog puppet
he is controlled by the photon strings
anything evil must perish
in the dead of night
when your full of fright
you know where to find me
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it wasn t treason since bush family is a NAZI FAMILY , hoover said that , JFK is dead because he tried to fight that and american ppl stood watching and took all the lies , we all responsible in a way
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Need a break from all the stupidity // Try this clip from The Daily Show -- Be good for a laugh or two if it wasn't so very true:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../
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either mike ruppert was on the right track or these oil giants are just trying to further scare us into believing peak oil even thouhg the whole deal is a scam to fear monger us
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If you want to be a part of page 28, you must join my secret society!!!
The name of our illustrious and glorious union is................... "the BEWILDERBERGERS"
We are wholly committed to our common purpose of.................. "Ordo de Idio"- Order out of idiocy
Instead of competing with one another to see who can become smarter, we simply control the mainstream media and entertainment industries- and use them to make the people stupider than us!!!
When they are finally stupid enough, we convince them to worship us as Gods!!!!!!! AH ha ha ha ha!!!
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Gabe--good to hear from you! What do you think of these mental midgets on HaloScan who are defending those who RAPE, STEAL and MURDER CHILDREN and escape (so far) judgement?
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I agree, kill the immigration bill ! As far as I'm concerned it's un-patriotic anyway !
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http://infowars.net/articles/
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yeah sure, I get it.. first the corporations go batty for the slave labor and move production there, then it becomes "so good" we borrow from them to fund an illegal war, then slowly it becomes understood they are economically burying us with debt and begin to think about fighting our way out of it too late. I have 3 words for the whole scenario, treason, STUPIDITY, and treason !!
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gOOD pOST chris jones -- You captured a lot of the way it is.
No it's not what American 'used to stand for' BUT it sure seems to be the monster it has become at the hands of the evil that remains in charge of us all. We The People. There was something in the news last week about GWB reminding us that it is HIS government.
Those are much more than Freudian Slips // they are the sad reality of the way the 'evil in charge' views itself. I think we stand right on the edge of all this going either one way or the other. It seems to be leaning more towards the wrong way, however.
People -- seriously -- Vote Ron Paul 2008. He may be our only chance at recovery.
There's still the possibility of a pending disaster (nuclear) wherein GWB (and Congress) will ensure that he remains our President (Dictator) // the confused low-mentality moving around out there in our country aware of this disaster and magnitude would surely be easily supportive of allowing a major change to our Constitution IF we were attacked BIG TIME (beyond the scope of any 9/11). That's the really scary thing I fear -- keeping GWB in control // even if only as a spokesperson for the evil truly in charge -- He's already shown them he is willing to sell our country away to the highest bidder. That's what they must have seen in him when the allowed him to be selected as President (twice). Damn scary if you ask me.
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if a unique world governement IS the only possible evolution for every intelligent race in the universe ( this short statement hold so many questions ) ok , but not like this , not by killing ppl , promoting hatery and war i m sur there is another way , one that preserve the human dignity ...
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Human Sacrifice, a term that haunts me. Blood for money, taxation without representation-memory lane, Killing a president & his brother, MIC, contrators drooling over war profits. 50,000 of Americans son in Nam killed, 4 million civilians, 650,000 in Iraq civilians, 911, WMD's, Cheney, Bush, the Elititists, Canes legacy. The constitution is just a *** peice of paper-GWB, Homeland, Blackwater, Femcamps, NWO, open southern borders, Iran invasion speculation, freedoms lost.
Depression, national debt, selling our ports to Chinese, Federal Reserve.Spineless news media, Puppet politicians, mind control and takeover.
Did that make any sence at all, is this America.
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International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei also said Iran could be running close to 3,000 uranium-enriching centrifuges by the end of next month — a number that IAEA officials have described as the point of no return in the start of a large-scale program.
Counter rotating the centrifuges will balance and stabalize the process. Making the plant run at full capacity-
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One world government is an inevitable evolutionary process among intelligent species in the universe.
You can't fight evolution.
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Human nature gets in the way. If history has taught us anything, those who are of wealth & power are in control of the masses.
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Be very careful reading into anything galloway says.
Its not that long ago that he was shaking ssadams hand and saying how he admires him. He was also in trouble in UK parliament over the food for oil program.
In short, he is also a member of UK government and a sleazy rat. Do some research for yourself, look into galloways past.
Also google galloway on sky news. None of his facts are correct.
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To CINDY:
Your repeated pleas regarding the collapse of our borders has not gone unnoticed // there are many of us that have lifted our head a bit higher and can see a bit clearer through the fog of confusion at what is happening here (and to) our wonderful land we love. Of course there is still many of us that seem to see this border 'stuff' as only a bunch of foreigners wanting to take jobs away from American workers BUT we both know that it is FAR MORE than that nonsense -- Don't we, folks.
Going back to GWB's first week as President (I hate to call him that, really) he made a trip to Mexico and spent time with Fox there discussing his plans for the future // It was all over the TV news at the time // And he sure didn't waste any time in starting the wheels turning on what we can see a bit more clearly today, that's for sure. A plan to not only position the US of A in the Middle East and have us involved in multiple wars (each unjust, each based upon fabrications, falsehoods) BUT to also allow our borders to fade away into nothingness (and geographically not just with Mexico and Canada -- as you will surely remember the Dubai Ports deal GWB and his inner circle were so intent on allowing to happen where they (Dubai) would exercise control over our major sea ports) as a North American Union (a combining of powers) is allowed to take shape right here before our unblinking eyes. A dissolvement of the way we have known and understood the United States of America since its founding // a change to a New World Order where WE (the former US of A) would sit as top of the hill on world domination.
A 'prod' to our animal instincts to be on the side of the winning team -- but a simple translation more so as cowering to the class bully who promises to smack you also upside the head if you should fail to cooperate his way // You're either with us or you're with the terrorist (that sound familiar?).
It's a very simple thing to see happening IF one would just turn off the TV set long enough to THINK about all the nonsence that has taken place over the past few years. Sure, 9/11 was a major wound but only a small portion of the total picture // on top of that were the LIES and TRICKS that have been played out right before the eyes of the American People and the rest of the world // It's been happening for years, growing stronger with time // and the hell of it is --many get hung up on obvious distractions like 'support our troops' (when the government clearly doesn't do it -- they could care less about that or they would act entirely different on many levels) and things like 'How best to deal with border crossings' (when our government actually is encouraging a collapse of our borders in order to blend foreign land with what we once knew to be OUR precious land, the very land that many have died in order to actually and honestly protect). Yes this is surely important --
But it (our immediate border problem) -- as truly important as it is -- is but one of many steps that have been playing out for days weeks months years now -- and the hell of it is -- Many see it and many don't. The low-mentality among us, sadly, are the ones still being led by the lies and most (if not all) would surely die to defend this land WE ALL love and hold so dear -- the same land that has been pretty much taken over by a gangster element (a super smart group of people, nevertheless, but thugs all who exploit our patriotic love for our country, and who remain definitely the bad guys in this whose only motivation is greed and of course world domination in order to gain even more of that greed). But even the low-mentality (and it's no one's fault to be that -- our government has encouraged that as well to make it easier to exercise control over us) can WAKE to the truth, eventually. The sooner the better for all the obvious reasons.
And all at human expense (world over) and the expense of sanity and good order that we all 'thought' we once understood. Our Congress is corrupt and is itself on the verge of collapse as we know it, and want it to be, and yet the low-mentality seem to think that to fix this mess all that needs be done is change political parties // point is a large portion are in it together AS ONE corrupt group, working together against the will of the American people while they claim (all lies) to support and represent us. 9/11 was based upon lies, and so was Iraq (those WMD -- no way was that true), and so is this border fiasco. All based upon one lie after the other //
Even when things seem to be working out for the better, the bad guys that truly do pull the strings continue to regroup and rework matters and business eventually (give it time) resumes in the direction intended. They twist and turn and adjust as needed but never lose sight of their ultimate and truly evil plans.
The only way to fix our current mess (in my opinion) would be to clean house and start basically over from scratch again. The corruption is rooted too damn deep and too damn widespread as it is.
To make that even a remotely possibility as it may very well be -- Vote Ron Paul 2008 // it's a place to start.
Nazi Germany didn't go away at the end of WWII // it shifted its evil tail to try and make us believe it did.
And for you people (the low-mentality out there among us) that simply wish to blame the Jews for this mess // Gangsters are not restricted to a select religious or racial group -- WISE UP. Better yet -- WAKE UP.
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One world government is an inevitable evolutionary process among intelligent species in the universe.
You can't fight evolution.
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"World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists"
Good! I hope they do. Maybe then we can give up this stupid oil war.
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And in we go. Are ships are already there, aren't they? Perfect!
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Have you read the recent gaza strip crap? "Iran bank-rolled" indeed. I smell a fucked up strategy into Iran. Why isn't Israel doing anything? They have all other times... they're standing down.
This is their chance. "Help me, United States, HELP me!!! It's Iran, oh no, oh no!"
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Emperor Theodore.
Good plan. Steps 1-4. I like it. Only if the rest of America suddenly understood, and we really did it, as one. We could actually save America.
Problem is, most idiots don't think we need saving. They have themselves convinced that everything is a little bumpy, but mostly fine. If they only knew what was in store!!!!!!!!
Guess some folks will never learn, or learn the hard way.
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This just in! The jewmedia has now upgraded the Brown home from a "FORTRESS" to a "FIVETRESS"
IDIOTS!
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to fix this problem is simple.............
step 1: herd ALL our legislators into the Capitol building
step 2: lock the doors and windows
step 3: douse the building with flammable material
step 4: ignite
that should give the NEXT group that crawl out from under rocks food for thought if they do not listen to our collective voices.........if not........
repeat steps 1 thru 4..........see?..........very simple..they may be slow...but they'll eventually catch on or quit crawling out from under rocks.........problem solved..............
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Neuron Network Cyborg Has Memory
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Sc...sp?
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Living neurons on an array of electrodes were shown to have rudimentary memories; researchers Itay Baruchi and Eshel Ben-Jacob of Tel-Aviv University published their study in the journal Physical Review E. This combination of living tissue and hardware could lead to cyborg-like memory chips; it could also help neurologists understand how our brains work.
(From Cyborg memory "chip")
Baruchi and Ben-Jacob introduced a chemical stimulant into the neuron culture at a selected location; this induced a new firing pattern in the neuron culture. Twenty-four hours later, they repeated the process, creating another firing pattern. These patterns persisted for more than forty hours.
According to Baruchi and Ben-Jacob, this proves that it is possible to store information in a cultured neuron network.
It's not clear to me how this work goes beyond earlier experiments in the field. In 2004, Naweed Syed at the University of Calgary ran a series of experiments that showed that snail nerve cells on a silicon chip could be shown to have retained memories (see Nerve Cells Grown On Microchip).
More recently, University of Florida scientist Dr. Thomas DeMarse has created a "brain in a dish" that can interact with a computer flight simulation. Find out more in this article - Rat Neurons In A Dish Now Playing Flight Simulator.
Science fiction writer Peter Watts correctly anticipated these studies in his 1999 novel Starfish.
"It's one of those smart gels," Ray said at last... "Head cheese. Cultured brains on a slab. The same things they've been plugging into the Net to firewall infections."
(Read more about smart gels)
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>>>>Proposal to Implant Tracking Chips in Immigrants
By Bill Christensen posted: 31 May 2006 07:04 pm ET
Scott Silverman, Chairman of the Board of VeriChip Corporation, has proposed implanting the company's RFID tracking tags in immigrant and guest workers. He made the statement on national television on May 16.
Silverman was being interviewed on "Fox & Friends." Responding to the Bush administration's call to know "who is in our country and why they are here," he proposed using VeriChip RFID implants to register workers at the border, and then verify their identities in the workplace. He added, "We have talked to many people in Washington about using it...."
The VeriChip is a very small Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tag about the size of a large grain of rice. It can be injected directly into the body; a special coating on the casing helps the VeriChip bond with living tissue and stay in place. A special RFID reader broadcasts a signal, and the antenna in the VeriChip draws power from the signal and sends its data. The VeriChip is a passive RFID tag; since it does not require a battery, it has a virtually unlimited life span.
RFID tags have long been used to identify animals in a variety of settings; livestock, laboratory animals and pets have been "chipped" for decades. Privacy advocates have long expressed concerns about this technology being used in human beings.
In a related story, Colombian President Alvaro Uribe allegedly remarked that microchips could be used to track seasonal workers to visiting U.S. senators Jeff Sessions (Alabama) and Arlen Specter (Pennsylvania). "President Uribe said he would consider having Colombian workers have microchips implanted in their bodies before they are permitted to enter the US for seasonal work," Specter told Congress on April 25.
Implanting microchips in human beings for the purpose of monitoring is not exactly news for science fiction fans; Alfred Bester wrote about "skull bugs" in his 1974 novel The Computer Connection:
"...you don't know what's going on in the crazy culture outside. It's a bugged and drugged world. Ninety percent of the bods have bugs implanted in their skulls in hospital when they're born. They're monitored constantly."
(Read more about Alfred Bester's skull bugs)
VeriChips are legal for implantation in people in the U.S.; see VeriChip RFID Tag Patient Implant Badges Now FDA Approved. See also a related story on a Proposed National Worker DNA Fingerprint Database. Read more at RFID implants for guest workers, Latin leader keen on ID chips and Chip implants for migrant workers
ALSO: SPARTAN DNA REAL-TIME READER:
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Sc...sp?
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Wi-fi and RFID used for tracking
Wireless tracking systems could be used to protect patients in hospitals and students on campuses, backers of the technology said.
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps...ogy/
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The combination of Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags and wi-fi allows real-time tracking of objects or people inside a wireless network.
Angelo Lamme, from Motorola, said tracking students on a campus could help during a fire or an emergency. "You would know where your people are at any given moment," he said. Marcus Birkl, head of wireless at Siemens, said location tracking of assets or people was one of the biggest incentives for companies, hospitals and education institutions to roll out wi-fi networks. Both firms were at The Wireless Event, in London, this week selling new products in the area of so-called real-time location services. Siemens is pushing a complete system, developed with Finnish firm Ekahau, which can track objects or people. Battery-powered RFID tags are placed on an asset and they communicate with at least three wireless access points inside the network to triangulate a location.
There needs to be standards put in place so the data is not abused for other purposes
Marcus Birkl, head of wireless at Siemens
Mr Birkl said: "The tags have a piece of software on them and they detect the signal strength of different access points. "This information is sent back to the server and it then models the movement of the tag depending on the shift in signal strength detected." For the system to work, the building or area that has been deployed with a wireless network needs to have been mapped and calibrated. To effectively locate objects a wireless access point is needed every 30 metres and Siemens said it was able to pinpoint assets to within a metre of their actual position.Mr Birkl said: "It's very useful for the health care industry - where there are highly expensive pieces of mobile equipment that move around a hospital. "At every point in the day health staff need to know where it is." The system can also be used to track wi-fi equipped devices, such as laptops, tablet PCs and wi-fi enabled phones.
"You can record movements over a period of time. You can see if the security guard in the night makes the right rounds, for example," said Mr Birkl. He added: "You can set certain boundaries and parameters. If a certain device enters or leaves an area it could trigger an alarm."
'More popular' As wi-fi becomes more popular in schools, the technology could also be used to track students. "It has to be aligned with the understanding of the people who are tracked," said Mr Birkl. There have been privacy concerns expressed in some quarters about RFID tags, especially around the possible use of tags on shopping goods to monitor consumer spending habits. RFID supporters have pointed out that the tags cannot be read at a great distance, but combining the technology with wi-fi raises the possibility of remote tracking.
Tags on products are typically passive - they have no power source and are only activated when read by a scanner in close proximity. These tags contain only an identifying number and can be small enough to embed in a sheet of paper. But the tags used in conjunction with a wi-fi network have to be active - they need a power source and have software installed on them that communicates with the wireless access points. The tags, therefore, are larger in size, and currently are impractical for use on anything other than high value consumer goods or, potentially, on people. "There needs to be standards put in place so the data is not abused for other purposes," said Mr Birkl. He added: "But there are clear benefits to keeping people safe." More than half of respondents to a recent pan-Europe consultation on RFID said regulations were needed to police the use of tags.
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Don't take your chances with the New World Order, and "roll the bones".
Be a real patriot, and listen to Alex Jones!
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58 -- Request for Information (RFI) - AUTOMATED VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SOFTWARE TOOLS AND RECORDING DEVICES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY/HOMELAND SECURITY PROFESSIONALS
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/DON/SPAWA.../
SynopsisR.html
General Information
Document Type: Sources Sought Notice
Solicitation Number: SSC-Charleston_MKTSVY_229BA
Posted Date: Oct 13, 2004
Original Response Date: Nov 09, 2004
Current Response Date: Nov 09, 2004
Original Archive Date:
Current Archive Date:
Classification Code: 58 -- Communication, detection, & coherent radiation equipment
Set Aside: N/A
Contracting Office Address
P.O. Box 190022, North Charleston SC 29419-9022
Description
Written responses to this RFI are due 9 Nov 2004. E-mail responses will not be accepted. Written responses to this RFI should be mailed to: SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston, Attn: Code 741DH, P.O. Box 190022, N. Charleston, SC, 29419-9022 or if FedEx is used: One Innovation Drive, Hanahan, SC 29406. Please provide 3 copies of any printed material. POC Contact: Daniel Heater 843-218-4384. Again DO NOT e-mail any information. The Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center - Charleston (SSC-CH) is seeking information on all available commercial, off-the-shelf (COTS) automated video surveillance software tools and recording devices designed to analyze imagery transmitted from a camera to detect pattern and behavioral activities in the field of view, specifically including object classification, identification, tracking, and analysis. SSC-CH is only interested in information on automated video surveillance software tools and recording devices that are currently available. Software and hardware options, power requirements, interoperability specifications, and ability to integrate emerging automated surveillance technology into existing capabilities are particularly desired. Various local, state and federal government and law enforcement agencies, civil disaster administrators, military disaster control personnel, and area disaster/emergency response personnel will potentially use these automated surveillance tools. Determination as to information suitability will be made by SSC-CH based on the objectives identified in this request. The purpose of this announcement is to support evaluation of automated video surveillance software tools/technologies for homeland security professionals from an end user perspective and determine the capabilities and limitations of the various software tools, systems, and recording devices. An unclassified, user ready reference will be disseminated to federal, state and local agencies. Follow on comparative testing of the tools and devices may result from the COTS data provided. Review of this information is being performed for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Office for Domestic Preparedness (ODP). ODP is responsible for enhancing the capacity of state and local jurisdictions to respond to, and mitigate the consequences of, incidents of domestic terrorism, particularly those involving weapons of mass destruction, through coordinated training, equipment acquisition, technical assistance, and support for federal, state, and local exercises. All information received will be treated as public knowledge; therefore, vendors should not submit proprietary information in response to this Request for Information (RFI). All data received in response to this RFI marked or designated as corporate or proprietary information will be disposed of, and the information will not be considered for evaluation. Specific information sought includes (1) a description of the automated video surveillance software tool, recording device or system, including size, endurance, transmission distance, hardware requirements, interface specifications and protocols, potential applications and setup constraints; (2) cost, to include purchase price and expected life cycle operation, training, and maintenance costs; (3) compatibility with access control or intrusion detection software, installed and optional, as well as ability to insert emerging technology; (4) night/day operation; (5) data transfer ability/specifications; (6) a listing of current users (with point of contact) or, in the case of technologies that have not yet been introduced into the market, organizations that have placed orders for the system, device, or technology; (7) installation and support specifications and requirements; ( the name and phone number/e-mail address of the individual that potential users should contact for more information on the software or application; and (9) websites or brochures with diagrams, drawings and graphics that would assist the user in understanding the tool, device, or system. This announcement is for information gathering purposes only. Submittals: Respondents are invited to provide information in the form of product brochures, press releases, technical specification sheets, independent assessment results, reprints of trade journal articles, etc, although electronic media are preferred (CD, diskette, or internet link). Submissions should include complete data sheets, pertinent company information, including contact person, phone number, and fax number and e-mail address. Responses to this RFI should be mailed to: SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston, Attn: Code 741DH, P.O. Box 190022, N. Charleston, SC, 29419-9022 or if FedEx is used One Innovation Drive, Hanahan, SC 29406. Please provide 3 copies of any printed material. POC Contact: Daniel Heater 843-218-4384. Do NOT e-mail any information. Responses are due 9 Nov 2004. This RFI is for planning purposes only, and should not be construed as a Request for Proposal (RFP) or solicitation of an offer. The Government does not intend to award a contract on the basis of this RFI or otherwise pay for the information solicited.
Point of Contact
Point of Contact - Donna Johnson, Contract Specialist, 843-218-5931
Email your questions to Contract Specialist at donna.johnson@navy.mil
Additional Information
Click on this link to access the SPAWAR E-Commerce Central Web Site
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And don't bother to exercise and eat healthy. Just go on a ton of prescription drugs, watch pussy talk shows, and get a "hoveround chair".
Then you'll really be ready for "freedom camp".
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Ongoing Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
BAA06-29 - Dynamic Multi-Terabit Core Optical Networks: Architecture, Protocols, Control and Management (CORONET) Program
(Proposal for first round of selection due OCT 27, 2006; BAA closes AUG 4, 2009)
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/ODA/DARPA.../
SynopsisP.html
Ongoing Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
Bootstrapped Learning (BL)
(Program closes NOV 14, 2007)
http://www.grants.gov/search/sea...IEW&
oppId=11489
Ongoing Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
Information Theory for Mobile Ad-Hoc Networks (ITMANET) - BAA 06-37
(Initial closing JUN 28, 2006; program expires MAY 1, 2007)
http://www.darpa.mil/ipto/progra...manet/
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Ongoing Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
Information Theory for Mobile Ad-Hoc Networks for Young Investigators
(Initial closing JUN 28, 2006; program expires MAY 1, 2007)
http://www.darpa.mil/ipto/progra...manet/
index.htm
Ongoing Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
Intrinsically Assurable Mobile Ad-Hoc Networking (IAMANET)
(BAA closes APR 30, 2008 )
http://www.grants.gov/search/sea...IEW&
oppId=13719
Ongoing Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
Microsystems Technology Office-Wide (BAA07-18 )
(Closes JAN 14, 2009 )
http://www.grants.gov/search/sea...IEW&
oppId=12261
Ongoing Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
Multilingual Automatic Document Classification Analysis and Translation (MADCAT)
(Initial closing JUN 27, 2008; BAA expires APR 25, 2008 )
http://www.grants.gov/search/sea...IEW&
oppId=13659
Ongoing Oak Ridge Institute for Science and Education
National Library of Medicine National Center for Biotechnology Information Scientific Visitors Program
http://www.orau.gov/orise/edu/nl...gi-
fpdgNCBI.htm
Ongoing US Air Force Materiel Command
National Intelligence Community Enterprise Cyber Assurance Program (NICECAP) - BAA 06-11-IFKA
(White paper; full proposal by invitation; Program expires SEP 30, 2010 )
http://www1.fbo.gov/spg/USAF/AFM.../
SynopsisP.html
Ongoing US Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL)
Proactive Intelligence (PAINT)
(White paper; Program expires MAY 1, 2011)
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USAF/AFMC.../
SynopsisP.html
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Navy needs 58--LONG RANGE ACOUSTIC DEVICES
General Information
Document Type: Presolicitation Notice
Solicitation Number: N0017807Q1188
Posted Date: May 03, 2007
Original Response Date: May 09, 2007
Current Response Date: May 09, 2007
Original Archive Date: Jun 30, 2007
Current Archive Date: Jun 30, 2007
Classification Code: 58 -- Communication, detection, & coherent radiation equipment
Contracting Office Address
N00178 17632 Dahlgren Road, Dahlgren, VA
Description
This synopsis is being posted to both the Federal Business Opportunities (FBO) webpage located at http://www.fbo.gov and the Navy Electronic Commerce on Line (NECO) website located at https://www.neco.navy.mil. While it is understood that FBO is the single point of entry for posting of synopsis and solicitations to the internet, NECO is the alternative in case FBO is unavailable. Please feel free to use either site to access information posted by the Naval Sea Systems Command. The following is a synopsis prepared in accordance with Simplified Acquisition Procedures, and supplemental information included in this notice. The quotation number is N00178-07-Q-1188 and is a request for quotation. This announcement constitutes the only quotation being issued. A written quotation will not be issued. All interested parties shall indicate their interest and capability with their fax quote at (540) 653-7088 or emailed quote to dlgr_nswc_xds11@navy.mil and shall be considere! d by Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD), 17632 Dahlgren Road, Suite 200, Dahlgren VA 22448-5110. All offerors must be advised that they must be active in the Central Contractor Registration database at http://www.ccr.gov before award can be made. The Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD) intends to award on a sole-source basis to American Technology Corporation, 15378 Avenue of Science STE 100, San Diego, CA, 92128-4108, an order for QTY 2 Emitter Assemblies PN 103826-00, QTY 2 Remote Control Electronics Assembly PN 103759-00, QTY 3 Sun Shield Upper PN 103734-00, QTY 3 Shield Rear PN 103733-00, QTY 3 Handheld Microphones PN LRAD-500-MIC, QTY 3 Cable Assemblies PN 103827-00, QTY 4 Cable Assembly Microphone Extensions PN 06-079-500, and QTY 4 Cable Assembly Audio Line Inputs, PN LRAD-CBL-CD. Brand Name or equal is not acceptable. The configuration being built to which these items will be components require the specified makes and mod! els to ensure functional capability. The closing date is 09 May 2007 a t 2:00 p.m. (local NSWCDD time). Simplified Acquisition Procedures shall apply to this acquisition. This requirement will be awarded on an all or none basis by the Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren Division, 17632 Dahlgren Road, Suite 200, Dahlgren VA 22448-5110.
Point of Contact
Code XDS117 540-6537478 FAX: 540-653-7088
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Secret Service needs 42 -- Gas Masks and Accessories - WTF for - Request came out 2 days ago
General Information
Document Type: Combine Solicitation
Solicitation Number: Reference-Number-120719
Posted Date: Jun 13, 2007
Original Response Date: Jun 15, 2007
Current Response Date: Jun 15, 2007
Original Archive Date: Jun 30, 2007
Current Archive Date: Jun 30, 2007
Classification Code: 42 -- Fire fighting, rescue & safety equipment
Naics Code: 423490 -- Other Professional Equipment and Supplies Merchant Wholesalers
Contracting Office Address
Department of Homeland Security, United States Secret Service (USSS), Procurement Division, 950 H Street, NW, Suite 6700, Washington, DC, 20223, UNITED STATES
Description
Description
This is a combined synopsis/solicitation for commercial items prepared in accordance with the format prescribed in Subpart 12.6 of the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR), as supplemented with additional information included in this notice. This announcement constitutes the request for quote for the required item under requisition number 120719. A subsequent solicitation document will not be issued.
The U.S. Secret Service intends to purchase Brand Name equipment from the manufacturer Mine Safety Appliances, Inc. as follows:
A) MFR/Part# 10051288, Millennium Gas Masks at 300 each
B) MFR/Part# B-60141-036 C420 Gas Mask Blower (36 inch Tube) at 15 each
C) MFR/Part# 10034184 Gas Mask Carriers at 300 each
D) MFR/Part# 10046570 Gas Mask Filters at 100 each
Offers for substitutions as equal items shall not be accepted for this requirement. Only items for same as brand name only items shall be accepted.
FOB: Point Destination to Washington, DC. The specific delivery address shall be provided to the contractor at time of award. Required Delivery: No later than June 30, 2007. Manufactured by: Mine Safety Appliances, Inc. .
All responses shall be submitted via email to Cheryl.bernhard@usss.dhs.gov. Any other type of submission of responses shall not be accepted.
At a minimum, responsible sources shall provide the following: a price proposal on letterhead which identifies the requested item, with its unit price, extended price, total price, prompt payment terms, delivery time, payment terms, remittance address, Tax I.D. #, Duns #, and Cage Code. The submitted offer shall also state that the items quoted meet all of the minimum requirements listed above in this solicitation. Responses to this solicitation are due by no later than 15 June 2007, 1600 hours. Offers shall be emailed to Cheryl.bernhard@usss.dhs.gov. Reference requisition number 120719, on your proposal. This requirement is unrestricted. NAICS 423490.
Original Point of Contact
Cheryl Bernhard, Contract Specialist, Phone 202-406-6826, Email chery.bernhard@usss.dhs.gov
Point of Contact
Cheryl Bernhard, Contract Specialist, Phone (202) 406-6940, Fax (202) 406-6801, Email cheryl.bernhard@usss.dhs.gov - Charles Keeney, Contract Specialist, Phone 202.406.6940, Fax 202.406.6801, Email charles.keeney@usss.dhs.gov
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The key to the takeover of America, and other nations, is to keep them guessing about the truth. Flood the media and the general conciousness with lies.
But it is imperative that the lies appear as legitimate excuses in sheep's clothing. Such as "global warming". And "Terrorism".
Also, you must demoralize the populous, and distract them with trivial nonsense, and false intellectualism based upon unsubstantiated philosophical nonsense. This is slowly accomplished through decades of "incrementalism".
By the time the people realize they are totally deceived and fucked over by internal traitors, it will be too late.
They will even march willingly to the "freedom camps", just like the Jews did to the ovens.
Why do you think these Satanic "FEMA" camps have barbed wire and one way turnstiles? What do you need, a kick in the fucking head? ITS OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
But I fear that no amount of "Ruby Ridges" or "Wacos" or "911s" will ever be enough to wake people back up enough to take any real action.
WE WILL LOSE THIS COUNTRY.
Unless we agree, the millions of us in the truth movement, to rise up as one, and smash our enemies and all those who "protect and serve" them at once, with merciless and unrelenting force of will and arms. Until they are utterly consumed forever by our righteous combined rage. And the example is laid forever, that the people run this government, and we will not be lied to. And we will accept NO SECRECY FOR ANY REASON OR EXCUSE in our government, ever again. We must outlaw secret societies. And bring Satanists and traitors to old fashioned Biblical justice.
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Good New World Order video.
http://www.cinecast.us/?L=video....o.index&
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How ya doin Ron?
Sane. Of course they are going to give the illegals the cards first. Most of them would willingly take the mark of the Beast itself to gain amnesty here. And I don't think most of them give a shit about the internal destruction of America.
And the Radiation and acceleration physics is only the "declassified" stuff. God we are totally fucked now. I wish our predecessors had seen the danger along time ago, and circumvented it. Now we are basically totally fucked.
In the fifties and sixties, and even the 70's, our spoiled predecessors could get into a nice home with only a little money down, a smile, and a handshake. Hell, it was so loose there wasn't even a law against drunk driving!!!!!!!!!!!
But my generation, Hell no.
If we even look side ways or cut a fart we can be charged with felony terrorism.
And to get in a house requires 18 credit checks, 20 pieces of ID, Homeland Security approval, verifiable income, 20 job history, and a million dollars down in cash.
Just to get in even the simplist sticks, nails, and drywall trailer park.
Our generation has been completely and totally fucked over. While older generations for the most part are enjoying their retirements, in denial that anything bad is going on.
As usual. People really only care about themselves, for the most part.
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FEMA Preparing logistics to move 15,000 citizens by train to a FEMA Detention Center within 48 Hours using NOLA Guinea Pigs
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/DHS/FEMA/...L/
Synopsis.html
General Information
Document Type: Special Notice
Solicitation Number: HSFEHQ-07-R--RAIL
Posted Date: May 24, 2007
Original Response Date: Jun 08, 2007
Current Response Date: Jun 08, 2007
Original Archive Date: Jun 23, 2007
Current Archive Date: Jun 23, 2007
Classification Code: V -- Transportation, travel, & relocation services
Naics Code: 482111 -- Line-Haul Railroads
Contracting Office Address
Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency, Disaster Operations & IT Branch, 500 C Street, S.W. PP, 5th Floor, Washington, DC, 20472, UNITED STATES
Description
The Department of Homeland Security/ Federal Emergency Management Agency intends to award a sole-source firm fixed priced contract to the National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) for transportation resources to provide for possible emergency evacuation of and Adequate capacity to transport up to 15,000 evacuees within a 48 hour time period by rail from the City of New Orleans, LA to Amtrak and FEMA mutually agreed upon stations in the event of the evacuation order. Operation of evacuation trains will commence within 24 hours of receiving notice of the need for evacuation services. The period of performance of the required service shall be from date of award through 30 December 2007. This contract will be awarded per Federal Acquisition Regulation 6.302-1, only one responsible source and no other supplies or services will satisfy agency requirements. There is no other rail transportation service except Amtrak that can provide intercity passenger rail transportation in New Orleans and the Gulf Coast region. Without AMTRAK services, American lives will be at risk in the event of a disaster like that caused by Hurricane Katrina in 2005. THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR COMPETITIVE PROPOSALS. All inquiries must be submitted in writing by electronic mail to the point of contact (POC). No written responses shall be accepted after 8 June 2007. Unless otherwise stated herein, no additional written information is available. A determination by the Government not to compete this effort is solely within the discretion of the Government.
Point of Contact
Debra Trott, Contract Specialist, Phone 202.646.2499, Fax 202.646.3318, Email debra.trott@dhs.gov - Robby Joyner, Contracting Officer, Phone 2026463522, Fax 2026462880, Email robby.joyner@dhs.gov
Place of PerformanceAddress: AMTRAK 1001 Loyola Ave New Orleans, LA 70113
Postal Code: 70113
Country: UNITED STATES
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What to do...what to do...
http://www.renewamerica.us/colum...s/levant/
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As the once and former free citizens of the united States of America — the government of, for, and by the people — we have ourselves quite a dilemma. And the biggest and most immediate problem we face is that the citizenry remains stupid, with heads in the sand, re-educated, and media sheep. What to do...what to do...
As I try to read all the watchdog literature that time affords, I am comforted by the willingness, effort, and research of those in the know and willing to act. But I also realize that the problems we face grow larger and more sophisticated on a daily basis, and that the job of simply trying to keep up with the political deception, missions, and disinformation is beyond monumental. And, of course, I also realize that the scope, financial resources, and strength of those missions are beyond historical compare. What a force, people. What a historical world-wide force to be reckoned with, and what an ineffective and largely ignored force the world's majority has become.
The question that the watchdogs are asked on a daily basis is, "What can we do?" Ask any watchdog this question, and you will get any number of suggestions — keeping in mind that watchdogs are simply people like all people. They just watch less tell-a-vision and perhaps tend to question blind authority more than most. However, there are no easy, simple, or single answers to securing freedom, for slavery is complex politics. And masterminded slavery is pathological greed in every way, shape, form, and century. This is an important consideration.
What we are dealing with are pathological missions, plans, and intentions — very patient and sophisticated pathological strategies that have been put into place decade after decade and, in truth, century after century.
The world's people have come under the misguidance of academic/expertise subordination — a subordination to group think and group will. We are being systematically transformed from our cultural nations and traditions into a one-world subordinated group. No one wants this. All people are attached to their nationalities, traditions, religions, and heritage. No one wants to be culturally cloned into an academic invention. No one wants to lose their identity, opinions, creativity, and intellect to become a cog in a utilitarian wheel that force-spins profits for masters and masters alone.
And no one wants to be controlled by technological prisons invented to control the identities, opinions, creativity, health, and intellects of the human masses. Such technology demonstrates the pathology and the vile immorality of those who view their fellow men as a lesser and servile species. But, in truth, there are those who do believe in grades and degrees of humanity, the submission of humanity unto themselves, and who believe that in order to secure their rank and file, they must decree a subordination-based system of governance using technologies that were, in fact, developed to subordinate mankind.
We, the choir, understand such. However, and for the forgiveness of our fellow man, it also took us years to get to this place of truth, comprehension, and bitter acknowledgment. And while it seems that our nation, as well as most others, continue to play the popular politics game (in our case, the 2-Party game), each day moves the world's people closer to the one-world-group-think/group-act scenario of total global subordination of mankind's will.
American children are now fully entrenched in this mode of operation. From school grouping, team grouping, and social/click-think dress, learn, and act, all "educational" systems, now interlinked and partnered with "mental health" systems, are working to indoctrinate the future group-minded work force that knows only "government" as master and utilitarian worker as mandatory servant to the "community good." And our children are taught that any deviance from such belief is at least emotionally deviant, and at best, criminally minded.
What to do...what to do...?
In truth, we don't have a decade to get the American people, much less the world's people, up to speed. We know that there is an "event" that will transpire on American soil that will render the people of this nation powerless and helpless. We don't know what that event will entail, and it will most likely entail combinations of events — weather emergencies, economic emergencies, "terror" emergencies, "pandemic" emergencies — but to name a few so designed, but the billion-dollar paramilitary industry that has been silently and incrementally established on American soil guarantees that an event has been prepared and readied. The one-worlders in constant power have spared no expense, no taxpayer's dollar, on the implementation and readiness of this transformational and occupational system. And, of course, the blacking out of truth is status quo, as it has remained since the advent of mass media and its highly addicting technology. Still, there is something that we can all do — be it too little or too late. Effort still counts. Truth still matters.
Our nation, operating in a "declared" and on-going state of emergency for nearly 75 years, has allowed for the raising of dastardly powers that were and are created to bureaucratically, systematically, and militarily end all powers of the Constitution and all corresponding rights of free people. Each and every president for the last 75 years could have ended the declared state of emergency in the United States, but all opted to keep the powers afford to the presidency in a nation so declared.
And because the declared state of emergency was never lifted, it gave rise to the incremental creation of and powers to remove the Constitutional governance of the nation. In essence, what gave permission and power to our "representatives" to implant global infrastructures into the United States, like regional governance, global regionalization, the Communitarian system of law (partnershipping/NGO/stakeholding) and, specifically, the group-think/group-act subordination (ending free will), was the very synchronized foundation laid by the "state of emergency."
All new paramilitary systems in the United States, including the massive funding for more Civilian Labor Camps and the unfathomable powers of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the Department of Homeland Security, all existing Executive Orders and most Signing Statements, and the missions of the North American Union, grew and mass produced due to the auspices of America's declared and continuing state of emergency, originally declared in 1933, titled the Act of March 9, 1933.
We as a nation of people must demand this declaration end. It's going to take a united effort and a united and indivisible command from the people of this nation — nothing more and nothing less. The raising of a centralized police state in this nation occurred because of the legal designation of military rule on the homeland — a designation that also named the people of the united States enemies of the united States government. Now, ask yourselves the real reason for the Civilian Inmate Labor Program, coupled with the continued disarming of the public during "emergencies," the duplicitous confiscation of private property, a tyrannical and thieving taxation, banking, and monetary system, etc.
The American people cannot be designated as "dissidents" simply because they are constitutionally guaranteed American people. However, this can occur if operating under Military Law, and particularly Martial Law, which suspends the constitutional law of the nation.
The stage has been set for Martial Law. Many Executive Orders have defined and guaranteed absolute dictatorial powers of Martial Law (refer to all orders gathered into Executive Order 12919). Practicing for this declaration has been an on-going process for several decades, with the paramilitary face in full view since 9-11. We continue to be desensitized by homeland military presence, public view of military issue weapons, black suits, international forces, and commands to disarm. This is not a good sign. And hundreds of millions of dollars have been awarded for construction of new civilian labor camps on American soil. This is a confirming sign that war powers are in place on the "homeland" — highly and strategically funded and enacted war powers.
So, we continue to do what we can for the existence of human freedom. Like always, and throughout human history, it's hard fought as freedom is constantly challenged by those who despise common man and God. Guard your free will with all your might. Remember that free will is the spiritual foundation of Christianity and the basis of life-long spiritual journeys. Remember that freedom is precious and rare. Ask yourselves if and how you can live without it. Ask yourselves what America will become without the Constitution, which declares and guarantees your freedom. Pray for this nation, and pray for strength in indivisible numbers. Pray for truth to be understood and legally permissible. Remember that just one Executive Order takes over all forms of communication. The day will come when truth will be silenced.
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A -- RESEARCH SUPPORT N THE AREAS OF
RADIATION AND ACCELERATION PHYSICS
http://heron.nrl.navy.mil/contracts/rfp/
Description
The Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) has a requirement for Research Support in the areas of Radiation and
Acceleration Physics. Specific research areas include intense, high power and pulsed laser propagation in gases and
plasmas, nonlinear optics, laser-induced ionization, free-electron sources of radiation, novel x-ray sources, highgradient
accelerators, electron and ion beam transport, high power microwave sources, and microwave interaction
with materials. Laser applications of interest include remote sensing and detection of nuclear materials and weapons
of mass destruction, pollutants and hazardous materials, ultra fast imaging, high gradient electron accelerators,
directed energy weapons, laser-triggered electrical discharges, and plasma-based optical elements. High power
microwave applications of interest include the production, bonding, and sintering of ceramics and other advanced
materials, microwave sources for high gradient accelerators, and power beaming. The research entails the use of
analytical, numerical, and experimental facilities. Specific task areas include (1) intense laser propagation in the
atmosphere, (2) high gradient laser-driven acceleration, (3) fundamental plasma and optical processes, (4) electron
beam driven radiation sources, (5) high power microwave sources and applications, (6) facility construction,
operation, and maintenance, and, (7) office automation support.
Document Type: Presolicitation Notice
Solicitation Number: N00173-07-R-JR02
Posted Date: May 03, 2007
Original Response Date:
Current Response Date:
Original Archive Date: May 03, 2008
Current Archive Date: May 03, 2008
Classification Code: A -- Research & Development
Set Aside: Total Small Business
Naics Code: 541690 -- Other Scientific and Technical Consulting Services
A detailed Statement of Work will be included in the solicitation when issued. A Cost Plus Fixed Fee (CPFF) type
contract is anticipated. The period of performance for this effort will be a base year of twelve months, with four
one-year options. The anticipated level of effort is 9,800 hours for the base year and 9,800 hours for each option, if
exercised. The incumbent contractor is Icarus Research, Inc, 7113 Exfair Road, Bethesda, MD 20814. NRL uses
Electronic Commerce (EC) to issue Requests for Proposals (RFPs) and amendments to RFPs. Paper copies of the
RFP will not be provided.
This is a 100 percent Small-Business Set-Aside.
Any resultant contract will be DO Rated under the Defense Priorities and Allocations System (DPAS). An original
and two copies of the offerors proposal shall be received on or before the response date and time noted in the RFP.
The package should be marked with the solicitation number, due date and time.
The U.S. Postal Service continues to irradiate letters, flats, Express and Priority Mail with stamps for postage and
other packages with stamps for postage destined to government agencies in the ZIP Code ranges 202 through 205.
Due to potential delays in receiving mail, offerors are encouraged to use alternatives to mail when submitting
proposals. This solicitation and other business opportunities for NRL are available at our website
http://heron.nrl.navy.mil/contra...cts/
rfplist.htm. See Numbered Notes 1 and 26.
Point of Contact
Jerry Riles, Contract Specialist, Phone 202-767-0667, Fax 202-767-6197, Email jerry.riles@nrl.navy.mil
Address: 4555 Overlook Ave, SW Washington, DC
Postal Code: 20375-5320
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Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.
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He's rolling over in his grave....along with the rest of the founding fathers!
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2.0 Background
2.1 Program History
ICPS is a card personalization process that unites seamless, continuous, automated and integrated card personalization technology to produce highly secure cards. The system minimizes human intervention and maximizes the quality of the cards while contributing to an enhanced business process, which provides for better customer service and superior fraud deterrence. Upon personalization of a card, the Computer-Linked Application Information Management System 3 (CLAIMS 3) case management system as well as the Central Index System (CIS) and other USCIS systems are automatically updated. Since the inception of the full stand-up of the ICPS personalization platforms in 1998, over 33 million cards have been personalized by USCIS (nearly 25 million optical and over eight million non-optical).
The existing ICPS platform was built from a combination of custom developed items and commercially available components, which consist of printer modules, a combiner unit, a visual inspection station, an optical memory encoder, a hot roll laminator, and a mailer/stuffer unit. The ICPS machines are confined to printing via the dye-sublimation printing process using print modules that are no longer manufactured.
In 1998, the ICPS represented state-of-the-art technology. While the ICPS machines are nearly ten years old, they still meet the USCIS performance requirements and continue to function, but with ongoing major maintenance and repair efforts. IDP currently owns some of the only remaining spare parts for many of the components of the ICPS machines. When the available supplies of spare parts are used up, the system will no longer be operable. Additionally, the current dye-sublimation card printing technique is being superseded by other printing technologies, which are more secure and efficient. In order to take advantage of these new technologies and avoid the problems related to the obsolescence of the current systems, a new printing platform must be acquired. Newer system platforms available today allow for a higher volume of cards than the current machinery. According to manufacturer specifications they operate at nearly four times the speed of existing platforms. Additionally these new systems allow for greater flexibility and substantially faster production rates in adding new printing technologies to existing production platforms. This would allow USCIS greater capabilities to continually incorporate better card security features and designs into its secure identity documents. As such, not only can USCIS avoid the risk of catastrophic failure from an inability to maintain aging equipment, it can more efficiently meet its present mission requirements and can prepare for future growth and expansion into newer technologies as the need arises.
There are five systems currently producing PRCs and LVs. Three of the systems are located at the Corbin Production Facility (CPF) in Corbin, Kentucky, and one each at the Vermont Service Center (VSC) and the Nebraska Service Center (NSC). Additionally, there is a non-optical personalization system at the CPF, used to manufacture non-optical memory cards, specifically the EAD. The new system would be capable of producing every type of card currently used by the USCIS as well as newer cards planned to be incorporated into the IDP production line. This would greatly increase the security capabilities of the cards and would reduce the risk associated with Government reliance on using a contractor owned system.
Since the inception of the ICPS, new identification card printing and security technologies have been developed in the marketplace which could aid USCIS' mission by making the printing process faster, requiring fewer consumables, and leading to a more secure card.
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>>RFID IS IN THE AMNESTY BILL!!!
Integrated Card Production System
Technology Refreshment Initiative
Purpose
http://www.fbo.gov/EPSData/DHS/S...Refresh/
SOO.doc
1.1 U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Mission
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services will secure America’s promise as a nation of immigrants by providing accurate and useful information to our customers, granting immigration and citizenship benefits, promoting an awareness and understanding of citizenship, and ensuring the integrity of our immigration system.
1.2 IDP Mission
The principal purpose of the Integrated Document Production (IDP) branch is to produce secure, machine-readable documents that are mission critical to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
1.2.1 Statement of Need
This is a new acquisition to refresh obsolete equipment and technology that has been utilized for 10 years without upgrade. It includes equipment, system integration, related software, warranty, maintenance support services and system related consumables. It will procure a secure identity document personalization system suite able to personalize secure United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) documents in a manner that assures efficiency and maximizes security. The current portfolio of secure documents includes the Permanent Resident Card (PRC), Laser Visa/Border Crossing Card (LV/BCC), and Employment Authorization Document (EAD) Cards. Current plans also call for the potential production of Temporary Worker Program (TWP) cards. Also contemplated as an integral part of this procurement are systems with the ability to personalize secure identity documents using new technologies and card types such as integrated circuit cards (FIPS-201 compliant cards), Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) technology cards, and other state-of-the-art card technologies. The system will also be used to personalize cards for sister agencies such as Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and other Department of Homeland Security (DHS) components.
Document production is a critical component of the USCIS mission because timely evidence of benefits is statutorily mandated. The Integrated Document Production (IDP) is a program with systems that are approaching 10 years of age and are operating well past their five-year lifecycle. In many cases the USCIS owns the only remaining component spare parts needed to keep the Integrated Card Production System (ICPS) equipment operational.
The Technology Refreshment requirement is to acquire systems suites to replace current aging and outdated ICPS platforms with new state of the art equipment that will:
Initially personalize eight million identification documents per year, with the potential to grow to a production rate of 28 million documents per year, program wide. The lower end of these values would cover the current program requirements to personalize PRCs, Laser LVs, and EADs. The upper end would cover the scenario of producing Bureau wide Homeland Security Presidential Directive 12 (HSPD-12) employee cards, TSA's Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC) cards, and Temporary Worker Program (TWP) cards.
Be capable of encoding cards that have a magnetic stripe, smart card chips (FIPS-201 compliant), optical stripes (Drexler standard), RFID transponders, and other state of the art technologies.
Incorporate newer state of the art secure printing technologies to include dye sublimation, laser etching and reverse transfer technologies.
Be scalable to handle growing volume requirements and flexible enough to allow for the addition of new, different, or faster printing technologies as required.
Increase reliability
Simplify maintenance and minimize production disruptions.
Position USCIS as a Center of Excellence for secure identification card personalization with DHS.
Perform quality assurance to automatically and autonomously check the finished card against the database to ensure the accuracy of the biometric and biographic data encoded on any card memory device with the data printed on the card.
Be capable of comparing biometric and biographic data encoded on finished cards with the original database record.
Be able to implement new card designs and initiatives.
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Looks like we are getting more international People Data, because procurement just put up a new request:
General Information
Document Type: Special Notice
Solicitation Number: Reference-Number-HSCEOP-05-P-00434
Posted Date: Jun 12, 2007
Original Response Date: Jun 28, 2007
Current Response Date: Jun 28, 2007
Original Archive Date: Jul 13, 2007
Current Archive Date: Jul 13, 2007
Classification Code: D -- Information technology services, including telecommunications services
Naics Code: 541990 -- All Other Professional, Scientific, and Technical Services
Contracting Office Address
Department of Homeland Security, Immigration & Customs Enforcement, Headquarters Procurement Division, Wash DC, 425 I Street, NW, Washington, DC, 20536, UNITED STATES
Description
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Financial and Trade investigations Division, Trade Transparency Unit (TTU) intends to increase the current contract ceiling on a basis other than full and open competition in accordance with FAR Part 8. This action is under the authority of FAR Subpart 8.405-6(b): The new work is a logical follow-on. In this particular case, the vendor Data Mining International, Inc.(DMI) is in the last year of a multi year contract. DMI is the sole provider/distributor of LEADMiner data mining software installed onto a multi-user server for use by investigators and foreign countries to include Panama, Paraguay, Brazil, Aruba and the Philippines with additional countries being added on a continual basis. The period of performance is to end April 15, 2008. DMI the designer and developer of the LEADMiner software, has all proprietary and ownership rights in the software, and there are no authorized resellers of the software. Any inquiries should be addressed to paul.virostek@dhs.gov on or before 5:30pm, Eastern Standard Time, June 28, 2007.
Point of Contact
Paul Virostek, Contracting Specialist, Phone (202)305-8745, Fax null, Email paul.virostek@dhs.gov
Place of PerformanceAddress: 425 I STREET, NW ROOM 2208 WASHINGTON, DC
Postal Code: 20536
Country: UNITED STATES
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And the punk sniper that shot Vicki Weaver in the face, while holding her baby, expressed no regret. And stated that he would happily do it again.
I can't believe this fucking country anymore!
You call that Law and order?
I call it murder. And our government is the murderers. And they get away with it every time.
Not to mention vast, unpunished, white collar theft.
And these are the cocksuckers that are promoted!
I may just be one poor man, but I can still fight. And enforce justice the old way.
Fuck lawyers and papers and Freemasonic judges. There is no law left in this God forsaken country.
Unless we, the people, enforce it.
Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.
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More fun Iraq Appropriation Bill Purchases:
Agency: Department of the Army Office: Multi-National Forces Iraq, Joint Contracting Command Iraq Location: JCCIA Theater-Wide Requirements Division (TWR) Posted: June 14, 2007 Type: Solicitation 01Title: U -- Iraq Ministry of Health Training SOL: W91GDW-07-R-4010 Posted: June 14, 2007 Type: Award Title: R -- Iraqi Electrical Sector Management Development Training Award Number: W91GDW-07-C-4001
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...10/
listing.html
Office: U.S. Army Medical Research Acquisition Activity June 14, 2007R--Posting a solicitation for a Firm Fixed Price contract with base + 4 option year for professional/medical personnel services spanning 27 labor categories in multiple CONUS and OCONUS locations. SOL: W81XWH06R0015
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/USAMR...15/
listing.html
Agency: Department of the Navy June 14, 2007Naval Sea Systems CommandA--Request for Proposal for (Dismounted) Counter Radio Controlled Improvised Explosive Device Electronic Warfare (CREW) Spiral (3.1) System.SOL: N0002407R6304
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/DON/NAVSE...04/
listing.html
Agency: Department of the Army Multi-National Forces Iraq, Joint Contracting Command IraqLocation: JCCIA Theater-Wide Requirements Division (TWR)
U -- Iraq Ministry of Health Training W91GDW-07-R-4010 June 13, 2007
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...10/
listing.html
Combine Synopsis/Solicitation 10 -- FN 303 LAUNCHER W91GDW-07-Q-0022 June 13, 2007
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...22/
listing.html
R -- Convoy Security Services W91GDW-07-R-4014 June 13, 2007
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...14/
listing.html
Office: U. S. Army Materiel Command Location: TACOM - Warren Acquisition Center23--Ground effect vehicles, motor vehicles, trailers, and cycles. W56HZV07RG102 June 13, 2007
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/USAMC...02/
listing.html
Agency: Department of the Army Multi-National Forces Iraq, Joint Contracting Command Iraq JCCIA Theater-Wide Requirements Division (TWR) June 12, 2007 D -- RFI- Iraq VTC Technicians [RFID MUTHERFUCKERS!!!!] W91GDW-07-R-0004
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...04/
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Agency: Department of the Air Force Air Force Materiel Command ESC - Electronic Systems Center June 12, 2007 RFP Program Files 03 17 -- IRAQ CASE IQ-D-QAA (GROUND BASED NAVIGATIONAL AIDS R1536
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USAF/AFMC...36/
listing.html
Agency: Department of the Army U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Gulf Region Division-Iraq June 12, 2007 J--IBN SINA HOSPITAL, O&M, R&I and Housekeeping Services W917BG-07-D-0005
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/COE/
W...0005Ln0001.html
Agency: Department of the Army Multi-National Forces Iraq, Joint Contracting Command IraqJune 11, 2007 70 -- Inside Plant Materials W91GF5-07-M-1033
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...-07-M-
1033.html
61 -- Ground Power Units W91GY0-07-Q-0189
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...89/
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23--Ground effect vehicles, motor vehicles, trailers, and cycles. W56HZV07RG089
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/USAMC...89/
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48 -- Procurement of 40 Inch Ball Valves with Actuators W91GER-07-Q-0022
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...22/
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52 -- Infrared Camera Kits [better not be for Cheney's Al Qaeda!!!] W91GF5-07-Q-1020
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...20/
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R -- Diyala Internal Security Services [Who the fuck is this subcontractor mercenary unit???] W91GDW-07-C-4005
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...-07-C-
4005.html
13--Various Nonstandard Ammunition for Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Afghanistan National Security Forces and the Government of Iraq (modification 01) [where is the body armor for our kids???] W52P1J07R0104
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/USAMC...04/
listing.html
R -- Convoy Security Services [to move cheney's oil] W91GDW-07-R-4014
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/MNF-I...14/
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Supertramp - Crime Of The Century Lyrics (circa 1974)
Now they're planning the crime of the century
Well what will it be?
Read all about their schemes and adventuring
It's well worth a fee
So roll up and see
And they rape the universe
How they've gone from bad to worse
Who are these men of lust, greed, and glory?
Rip off the masks and let's see.
But that's not right - oh no, what's the story?
There's you and there's me
That can't be right
Streaming mp3 (press play button in the top left corner)
http://www.progarchives.com/Prog...lbum%
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When we all get shipped to the work camps, expect this archaic manual to be updated:
http://www.wdol.gov/docs/WRB2002.pdf
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How much do we pay illegals to build Hamminburton Death Camps???
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NEW HEALTH & WELFARE FRINGE BENEFIT RATES
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/contr.../sf98/
index.asp
Effective June 1, 2007, the health and welfare fringe benefit rates increase for all Service Contract Act wage determinations. The low-level benefit will be $3.16 per hour, or $126.40 per week or $547.73 per month. Also, WHD will continue to issue SCA wage determinations based on the average cost method of compliance. The high-level benefit rate will be $3.16 per hour. WHD will issue the average cost fringe benefit wage determinations only for those contracts where the formerly grandfathered high-level benefit rate applied.
If you receive a wage determination that does not contain the new health and welfare rate of $3.16, please contact the Wage and Hour Division via email at the address listed below. If the contract action is in the State of Hawaii, or if there are any questions, please refer to All Agency Memorandum Number 203 (PDF, HTML), or call (202) 693-0097.
If you need assistance with this form, or are experiencing difficulties, please contact the Wage and Hour Division of the Employment Standards Administration of the Department of Labor via email to WHD-TheWiz@dol.gov. Thank you!
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The Latest
US Ammo Gift: 496 Bullets for Each ISF Member
Running the Numbers: 172,000,000 Gifted Bullets; 346,500 Iraqi Soldiers, Police
Posted 6 hr. 44 min. agoUS ammo purchase for Total Average for each ISF member
Iraqi security forces (ISF) (346,500 combined)
http://www.iraqslogger.com/
index...Each_ISF_Member
AK-47 bullets 92,000,000 266.51
Glock pistol bullets 40,000,000 115.44
PKM machine gun bullets 40,000,000 115.44
Total bullets 172,000,000 496.39
Following up on our report today on the U.S. Army buying 172 million bullets to give to the Iraqi security forces, we whipped out our calculator to determine how many of those bullets on average would go to each and every member of the Iraqi police and Iraqi army.
Here are those stats.
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Gee how many of those bullets do you think will end up in innocent chilren's heads and US soldiers?????
If we arm them there, they will kill us here!
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US Buying 172M+ Rounds of Ammo for Iraqis
Ammo Destined for Iraqi Army, Police: 92M AK-47, 40M Glock, 40M PKM, 20K RPG
Posted 15 hr. 10 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/
index...Ammo_for_Iraqis
Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images
Former Pleasant Grove, Alabama Police Officer Brian Rewolinski from Key West, Florida teaches Iraqi Police how to shoot an AK-47 at the Jordan International Police Training Center in 2005 in Amman, Jordan.
The US Army is seeking to buy the ammunition in two batches:
Group A:
-- Bullets for AK-47 Assault Rifle: 55,200,000
-- Bullets for Glock Pistol: 24,000,000
-- Bullets for PKM Machine Gun: 18,000,000
-- Grenades for RPG-7 Launcher: 20,000
-- Bullets for Mossburg Shotgun: 2,500
-- Bullets for SVD Sniper Rifle: 2,500
Group B:
-- Bullets for AK-47 Assault Rifle: 36,800,000
-- Bullets for Glock Pistol: 16,000,000
-- Bullets for PKM Machine Gun: 12,000,000
13--Various Nonstandard Ammunition for Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Afghanistan National Security Forces and the Government of Iraq (modification 01)
Synopsis - Posted on Jun 04, 2007
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Here is the official Request for Proposal (RFP) from the US Army Sustainment Command.
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/USAMC...ation%
2001.html
General Information
Document Type: Modification to a Previous Notice
Solicitation Number: W52P1J07R0104
Posted Date: Jun 05, 2007
Original Response Date: Jun 19, 2007
Current Response Date: Jun 19, 2007
Original Archive Date: Aug 18, 2007
Current Archive Date: Aug 18, 2007
Classification Code: 13 -- Ammunition & explosives
Set Aside: N/A
Naics Code: 332993 -- Ammunition (except Small Arms) Manufacturing
Contracting Office Address
US Army Sustainment Command, ATTN: AMSFS-CCA, Rock Island, IL 61299-6500
Description
Various Nonstandard Ammunition for Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Afghanistan National Security Forces and the Government of Iraq. The US Army Sustainment Command (ASC) intends to issue a Request for Proposal (RFP), W52P1J-07-R-0104, to the Army Single Face to Industry Web(ASFI) at https://acquisition.army.mil/asfi/ on or about June 20, 2007 with a closing date of 30 days after issuan ce. This is a Foreign Military Sales RFP for FY 2007 Afghanistan and Iraq requirements. Due to the importance of deliveries and the volume of ammunition required, the Government will award individual contracts for the three (3) requirements (1 for the Afg hanistan requirements and 2 for the Iraq requirements). All three requirements shall all be firm-fixed price with 100% options. Options may be exercised within 3 months of contract award. Although offerors are restricted to a single Iraq award, it may be eligible for the Afghanistan award also. The materiel must be from new production or new surplus manufactured within last 20 years and serviceable without qualifications. The following is a list of items that will be solicited: **AFGHANISTAN REQUIREMENTS LISTING ITEM, WEAPON SYSTEM, QTY **40MM SPONGE ROUND, MOSSBERG M590A1, 20,613 **40MM 60 CAL STINGER, MOSSBERG M590A1, 20,505 **40MM LIQUID FERRET-CS, MOSSBERG M590A1, 20,500 **STINGER RUBBER BALL GRENADE, N/A, 10,000 **OC/CS AEROSOL GRENADE, N/A, 10,000 **HC MILITARY STYLE SMOKE, N/A, 10,000 **MULTI-PORT PLUS FLASH BANG, N/A, 10,000 **MULTI-PORT PLUS 15 GRAM RELOAD, N/A, 10,000 **12 GAUGE BEAN BAG, MOSSBERG M590A1, 800 **12 GAUGE LAUNCHING ROUND (SPECIAL), MOSSBERG M590A1, 400 **12 GAUGE RUBBER FIN STABILIZED, MOSSBERG M590A1, 950 **GRENADE RUBBER/STING BALL, MOSSBERG M590A1, 100 **GRENADE HAND NL M84, MOSSBERG M590A1, 100 **CANISTER GRENADE CS PYRO LOW FLAME, N/A, 97 **FLASH BANG, TRAINING FUSE & BODY, N/A, 50 **HC SMOKE WHITE FLAMELESS CANISTER, N/A, 6 **GRENADE STING BALL OC, N/A, 4 **LAUNCHING CUP 12 GAUGE CANISTER, MOSSBERG M590A1, 10 **LAUNCHING CUP 12 GAUGE STRING BALL, MOSSBERG M590A1, 10 **MK9 OC SPRAY CANISTER, N/A, 25 **MK4 STREAMER CANISTER OC, N/A, 75 **MK9 FOGGER OC, N/A, 20 **PISTOL GRIP CROWD CONTROL OC SPRAY, N/A, 5 **PG-7VM, 70.5MM STD HEAT, RPG-7 LAUNCHER, 576 **PG-7VL, 93MM STD HEAT, RPG-7 LAUNCHER, 216 **AMMO BELT W/CAN FOR 7.62X54MM (250 ROUND), PKM, 4,000 **AMMO BELT W/CAN FOR 12.7X108MM (50-70 ROUND), YAKB 1,000 **AMMO BELT FOR 30MM MACHINE GUN, GSH-30, 500 **LINKING MACHINE FOR 7.62X54MM, PKM MACHINE GUN, 40 **LINKING MACHINE FOR 12.7X108MM, YAKB, 20 **LINKING MACHINE FOR 30MM MACHINE GUN, GSH-30, 10 **SPG-9 PROPELLANT (ELECTRICALLY IGNITED, GROUND MOUNT), SPG-9, 10,000 **IRAQ A REQUIREMENTS ITEM, WEAPON SYSTEM, QTY **12 GAUGE BREACHING ROUND, MOSSBERG SHOTGUN, 2,500 **9MM BALL, GLOCK PISTOL, 24,000,000 **7.62 X 39MM BALL, AK47 ASSAULT RIFLE, 55,200,000 **7.62 X 54MM BALL W/ LINKS, PKM MACHINE GUN, 18,000,000 **OG-7V 40MM HE, RPG-7 GRENADE LAUNCHER, 20,000 **7.62 X 54MM SNIPER, SVD SNIPER RIFLE, 2,500 **HC MILITARY STYLE SMOKE WHITE, N/A, 1,000 **IRAQ B REQUIREMENTS ITEM, WEAPON SYSTEM, QTY **9MM BALL, GLOCK PISTOL, 16,000,000 **7.62 X 39MM BALL, AK47 ASSAULT RIFLE, 36,800,000 **7.62 X 54MM BALL W/ LINKS, PKM MACHINE GUN, 12,000,000 ** The weapons in this synopsis are for reference purposes only, the intent of this procurement is to purchase the ammunition for the weapons listed above. Delivery and FOB terms shall be included in the solicitation. All contractors who provide goods/services to the Department of Defense (DOD) must be registered in the Central Contractors Register (CCR). If you are not registered in CCR, you cannot be awarded a DoD contract. The Internet site for registering in the C CR is http://www.ccr.gov/. You may also contact the CCR Registration Assistanc e Center at 1-888-227-2423, customer service, and request the registration form and assistance packet for completion. Direct any questions prior to the applicable closing date in writing to: Headquarters, US Army Sustainment Command, ATTN: AMSAS-ACA-R/G erry Haan 1 Rock Island Arsenal, Rock Island, IL 61299-6500 telephone number (309) 782-5155.
Original Point of Contact
GERRY HAAN,Contract Specialist,(309)782-5155 or KIM M. JONES,Contracting Officer,(309)782-0571
Email your questions to HQ ARMY SUSTAINMENT COMMAND at GERRY.HAAN@US.ARMY.MIL
Current Point of Contact
Gerald haan, 309-782-5155
Email your questions to US Army Sustainment Command at gerry.haan@us.army.mil
Place of PerformanceAddress: US Army Sustainment Command ATTN: AMSFS-CCA, Rock Island IL
Postal Code: 61299-6500
Country: US
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Hey you fucking treasonous Democrats, welcome to the Iraq Supplemental Bill!!!
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Man arrested for video taping police in public faces possible 7 years.
Child arrested for dropping 2 potato chips.
90 year old woman shot in face and killed by cops, who then admitting planting drugs on her in an unconstitutional raid.
Woman arrested for "staring" at a police dog.
Peaceful demonstrators beaten and gassed.
Spics swarming over the borders and given welfare and immunity to prosecution or punishment, even for severe offenses.
7 year old boy, "Mungo", arrested for riding his motorcycle.
Children arrested for "climbing a tree".
Child arrested and charged with a felony for playing with his "rubber band toy gun".
Man with legitimate press pass arrested and charged with felonies and espionage for asking questions about 911.
People held without right to attorney, or press coverage.
Secret torture authorized.
CPS stealing children and giving them to Satanists, pedophiles, welfare checkers, and drug addicts.
Cops violating all Constitutional rights with complete immunity.
Federal oppression of the poor and middle class.
Constant flow of lies in the mainstream media.
The complete distraction and demoralization of the population.
Pornography and immorality promoted in the mainstream as "normal".
Foreign troops trained on American soil for house to house gun confiscation from American citizens.
The police all have quotas and pensions based on "performance", and are encouraged and pressured to harrass and ticket, not "protect and serve".
Secret evil societies controlling all the key positions and major branches of our government.
Scum sucking Satanic pedophile child kidnapping rings run by the CIA , Dyncorp, and "the finders" to name a few.
A phony war on drugs. A CIA based drug monopoly in order to drive up profits for the NWO and oppress the poor and middle class for something that's not even a crime.
I could go on all night.
Fuck this New Order of the Ages.
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End the War to Save the Troops
Soldier Reponds to Slogger Readers' Criticism of His Controversial Idea
By TRACEY CALDWELL Posted 12 hr. 54 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/
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Stephen Morton/Getty
FORT STEWART, GA-MAY 17: A soldier with the Army's 3rd Infantry Division walks along Warrior's Walk before a ceremony for five soldiers who recently died in in Iraq.
My column last week about my son's suggestion to fire one general for each soldier killed received many responses. The moms who wrote overwhelmingly liked the idea, but many of the men wrote to tell me why this wouldn't work. I forwarded some of the emails to my son and he sent me the following response:
For those who think firing a general will cause them to keep us inside the wire:
Every officer knows it is impossible to keep every soldier in their unit from being killed. My point about firing generals is that they have the power to end this war at anytime they want, which is the only way they could stop the loss of American soldiers.
This war is not as complicated as everyone thinks it is. There are strategies that could put Iraq into a relatively secure state, but little motivation for them to enact such strategies. None of us has any real motivation to make the war end, especially when we are making so much money over here. Even an enlisted soldier like me is making money. With no bills to worry about, I am able to save $2000 a month.
But things would change if there was the possibility that at any moment the generals could find themselves looking for a new job. If the generals did not want to get fired, they would make this war end so we could come home and stop getting ourselves killed.
I realize that some of my son's attitude results from multiple deployments and seeing too many friends die--some deaths he feels could have been prevented. My son is not alone in second-guessing the decisions of the military leadership. Many moms told me about their sons' suggestions for conducting this war. All of the ideas were interesting.
One mother said her son had suggested that Iraqi troops should be trained out of country--that removing them from their family and friends would help establish discipline and determine friend from foe. Other soldiers had told their moms about better vehicles and equipment that they thought would make operations more successful. Some soldiers made observations I have heard from my son--that not enough emphasis is being put on securing the border and cutting off supply lines to insurgents.
I am certain that soldiers in every war have second-guessed the decisions of their leaders. Their perspective is often limited by where they sit on the battlefield, but sometimes they have insight that only those on the ground can have.
I certainly don't have the military experience to evaluate their suggestions. But if these are the kind of young men and women who look at their situation and think about how it could be handled better, they will come home from this war and go on to become leaders--in the military, government, or in their local communities-and their experiences will influence their decisions in the future.
Tracey-Kay Caldwell is the mother of a soldier, Democratic Party Editor of BellaOnline.com, and a freelance writer. She can be reached at IraqSoldierMom@gmail.com.
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Maliki Fingers Guards in Bomb Attack
PM: Security Staff "Had a Role" and "Will be Punished" for Minaret Blasts
Posted 3 hr. 20 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/
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Photo by Iraqi Prime Minister Office via Getty Images
View of Samarra on June 13 shows the damaged structure of the shrine housing the tombs of two Shi'a imams.
The Iraqi prime minister pointed the finger at security guards for Wednesday's bombing of the al-Askari shrine in Samarra.
In remarks recorded in Samarra on Wednesday and broadcast on state-run al-Iraqiya television on Thursday, the PM said that the guards at the site of the attack "had a role" in the bombing, and said that they would be held responsible, AFP reports.
"The guards present there had a role in this attack and they will be punished," Maliki said, speaking to reporters during a visit to Samarra following the bombing.
"Anyone who is involved or participated or played any role in this brutal crime will be punished," he said.
Maliki added that his government was nearing a deal on a contract to rebuild the shrine before the bombing, AFP writes.
Brigadier General Abdul Karim Khalaf, of the Iraqi Interior Ministry, said a group of security guards at the mosque had been arrested after the latest attack.
"We have detained a few security guards who were stationed inside the complex of the shrine," he said. "I can't tell the exact number of those detained but they are under investigation," AFP writes.
On Wednesday, a US military spokesman told Fox News that 13 of those arrested included members of the Emergency Response Unit who had been guarding the shrine, a commander and 12 of his police.
"I can confirm . . . that Brig. Gen. Duraid, deputy commander for the National Police in Samarra, did arrest the Emergency Response Unit Iraqi Police commander and 12 of his Iraqi police who had been guarding the mosque at the time of the explosions," Maj. Tage J. Rainsford, spokesman for Maj. Gen. Benjamin Mixon, said, Fox reports.
It is unknown how many arrests of members of Iraqi security forces have been made since the bombing, but from Maliki's remarks it is clear that Iraqi security personnel are targets in the investigation.
Iraqi specialised Facility Protection Service (FPS) guards, have been stationed around the shrine since the first bombing of the structure in 2006, which destroyed its hallmark golden dome, AFP writes.
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American Said to Run Afghan Jail Freed
Wednesday June 13, 2007 1:01 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
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KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - An American imprisoned in Afghanistan for running a private jail for terror suspects has left the prison where he was held for almost three years and departed the country, the chief of the prison said Wednesday. Jack Idema, a former Green Beret, was pardoned by President Hamid Karzai in March as part of a general amnesty. Rahim Ahmadzai, Idema's Afghan lawyer, said the American left the Afghan prison on June 2 and then flew out of Afghanistan. Shamir, the chief of Policharki prison where Idema was held, said Idema had wanted to stay in Afghanistan and couldn't get a visa, yet was still happy to leave the country.
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Who cares about the creep that threatened David Letterman, where is APB on this Black Ops Krull ISI Blackwater False Flagger???? I think he and Posada and Potts were given the suitcase nuke Cheney operation.
Here ya go guys, I feel it is necessary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h?
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Rockets Rain on Baghdad's Green Zone
Friday June 15, 2007 5:16 AM By LAUREN FRAYER Associated Press Writer
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
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BAGHDAD (AP) - A citywide clampdown emptied Baghdad's streets of all vehicles Thursday in attempts to hold off what authorities dread: a storm of Shiite attacks in revenge for the bombing of one of their main shrines. The tactic appeared to keep a lid on widespread violence, but extremists fired shells into the city's protected Green Zone during a visit by the State Department's No. 2 official. The barrage of rockets and mortars included one that hit on a street close to the Iraq parliament less than a half hour before Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte passed nearby.
The attack again showed militants' resilience - including their ability to strike the heavily protected zone - despite a U.S.-led security crackdown across the city that began exactly four months ago. But officials paid much closer attention to any signs that Shiites could unleash another wave of retaliation against Sunnis for the Wednesday blasts at the Askariya mosque compound in Samarra. The first attack on the site in February 2006 sent the country into a tailspin of sectarian violence that destroyed Washington's hopes of a steady withdrawal from Iraq. On Wednesday, bombers toppled the two minarets that stood over the ruins of the mosques famous Golden Dome about 60 miles north of Baghdad. The U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker, echoed Washington's claim that the latest attack was the work of al-Qaida. [it just fucking happened!] ``I just don't think there's any doubt that it was al-Qaida that first struck the Askariya in February 2006, and the method this time was very similar to that - (explosive) charges very carefully placed to devastating effect,'' Crocker told a group of reporters.
Negroponte called the Samarra attack a ``deliberate attempt by al-Qaida to sow dissent and inflame sectarian strife among the people of Iraq.'' [Why is this guy not rotting in a prison cell???] The U.S. military issued a statement Thursday saying Iraqi forces had arrested the commander and 12 policemen responsible for security at the shrine, which holds the tombs of two revered 9th century Shiite imams. It was not immediately clear whether the police arrested are suspects in the attack or held for questioning. Curfews and increased troop levels appeared to hold down retaliatory attacks. The vehicle ban was expected to last through Saturday.
But it did not fully prevent Shiite anger from turning violent. Four Sunni mosques near Baghdad also were attacked or burned within several hours of the Samarra bombings, police said. Police in the southern city of Basra said Thursday that four people were killed and six wounded in attacks on at least four mosques on Wednesday. The Green Zone was repeatedly locked down as U.S. radar picked up incoming rocket fire into the area, which contains the U.S. and British embassies and many key Iraqi government buildings. Workers darted between U.S. occupied buildings in the sprawling region wearing flak jackets and helmets. A senior military official said it was believed some non-Americans had been killed or wounded. The official, who would not allow use of his name because the official report was not released, said there were no U.S. casualties. Officially, the U.S. military said its radar detected five rockets aimed at the Green Zone. But a U.S. soldier, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information, said at least a dozen rockets or mortars slammed into the zone. [this is the fucking green zone guys]
An Associated Press reporter, traveling in a military convoy behind Negroponte, saw the impact zone where one of the rockets slammed to earth at the edge of the roadway. It had fallen about 25 minutes before Negroponte drove past. Workers in and out of uniform wore rubber gloves as they picked through the debris from the rocket, which fell near a checkpoint about 200 yards from the Iraqi parliament. Militants have repeated fire mortars and rockets into the Green Zone in recent months, including a barrage May 19 when British Prime Minister Tony Blair made a farewell visit. Senior U.S. officials, who spoke anonymously because of the sensitive nature of the information, said it appeared that militant rocket and mortar teams were getting information on high-level visits and schedules from inside sources. Insurgents linked to al-Qaida, meanwhile, released a videotape showing the execution-style deaths of 14 Iraqi soldiers and policemen after the expiration of a 72-hour deadline for the Iraqi government to meet their demands.
In a statement that preceded the video footage, the Islamic State of Iraq said its religious court ``ruled that God's verdict should be implemented against the renegades'' after its demands were not met. In an earlier video, the group demanded the release of all female prisoners in Iraqi prisons. The killings took place in what looked like a rural area, with a grass field and several tall eucalyptus trees. A small wooden shack stood in the background. The authenticity of the one and a half minute video could not be verified, but it appeared on a Web site commonly used by Islamic militants and carried the logo of the Islamic State of Iraq's media production wing, al-Furqan.
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Associated Press Writers Steven R. Hurst and Sameer N. Yacoub contributed to this report from Baghdad.
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Surge long and surge hard - results from the front lines...
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Iraqi’s Accuse U.S. Of Bombing al-Askari Shrine in Samarra,: Both Sunnis and Shia say bombing a plot to incite sectarian violence. SW PP June 13 2007. …the site has been heavily guarded by about 60 Federal Protection Service forces and 25 local Iraqi police and closed to the public since it was attacked last year in a bombing which many believed to be the work of US forces. …The explosion took place this morning under two minarets in a very similar way to the Golden Dome bombing more than a year ago.
…Just this week it was revealed that the US is arming its own cadre of Sunni insurgents in Iraq.
US security men attempted to smuggle C4 plastic explosives past a checkpoint at Heiligendamm. PJW PP June 10 2007. C4 has been used in the gruesome car bombings in Iraq. Asked about those and the dozens of civilian bodies that turn up daily, Iraqi Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani, laid responsibility for the deaths, including gruesome beheadings of civilians, at the feet of the unregulated force of one hundred and fifty thousand private security contractors. Fourteen thousand of whom are from Ahmad Chalabi’s Iraqi Free Forces, the remainder are from paramilitary forces with some of the worst human rights records in the world: South Africa, Colombia, Salvador, and Chile, and ex special forces from the United Kingdom, United States, Israel, Nepal, Fiji, and the Philippines. Beheadings, such as those seen in Iraq, are a hallmark of the Nepalese Gurkhas. waynemadsen.com.
Agriculture, writing, and the domestication of animals all originated in the Tigris Euphrates region called Iraq, the tribes that have been located there since past the time of the prophets to the time of Adam, are the Sunni. The Shia are every one else, the Sunni have often been indisposed to handle the manual chores, so they have been bringing in workers from other places for centuries. These workers do not usually attend Sunni mosques which are most often built and maintained by a single extended family. Iraqi workers usually attend to their religious affairs in Mosques that are located in working class areas of the city, reflecting their status as workers and as the descendants of workers. At no time has war or conflict between the two sectors of society been permitted, either under secular law or within the strictures of Islam, and all parties are aware that murder is met with speedy and deadly retaliation, according to the instruction in The Koran.
Murdoch and Co will have you believe an internecine struggle between Shia and Sunni sects within the Moslem infrastructure of Iraq, supported on the Shia side by Iran attempting to establish hegemony in the area, is at the heart of the problem. That is total BS.
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Muslim Humanitarian Kidnapped By US Military; Held in Secret Jail
Jun 13, 2007
Michael Schmidt and Sapa | The Star
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
A Johannesburg man studying in Syria is reported to have been secretly abducted by American soldiers and moved to Ethiopia.
Abdul Hamid Moosa, 41, of Robertsham had been in regular contact with his family since moving to Damascus to study in September 2005. But their last contact with him was on December 29 last year.
Last Friday, Claire Gutteridge, a British human rights worker, contacted the family to allege that Moosa was being held without trial in Addis Ababa. The family was sceptical but a call from a Swedish Muslim, Munir Awad, convinced them.
Awad had apparently shared a cell with Moosa before being released after pressure from the Swedish government and Gutteridge's organisation, Reprieve.
Awad claimed the men were being held without trial in Addis Ababa, and that the authorities didn't have any facts to support their indefinite detention.
It was alleged that women, including Awad's pregnant wife, were regularly abused by prison guards and that the male prisoners were tortured.
The family has contacted Foreign Affairs as well as attorney Zehir Omar, who is also representing the family of Khalid Rashid, who was reportedly transported in a charted private jet from Waterkloof airbase in Pretoria on November 6, after American agencies suspected him of involvement in terrorist activities in Pakistan.
The Media Review Network (MRN) on Saturday urged the South African government to secure Moosa's release from the United States military base on the Horn of Africa, which is where they believe he is being kept.
According to MRN chairperson Iqbal Jassat, a report by Reprieve said that Moosa was a victim of "enforced disappearance - abduction or arrest with the connivance of the US government and the host state".
"This lends credence to our suspicion that 'Guantanamo-style' detention camps exist in some north and east African countries," he said. - Michael Schmidt and Sapa
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My buddy AAA.
Now, Baldmanace?
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American Helicopter Gun Ship Blasts Secondary School In Al-Baghdadi Killing Seven Students
Jun 13, 2007
Muhammad Abu Nasr | Iraqi Resistance Report
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
With US forces completely failing on the ground, as countless reports even in mainstream press attest to, when all else fails, the Americans take to the skies, this time blasting a secondary school killing seven students as 26 more tortured bodies of Sunnis were discovered.
With US forces completely failing on the ground, as countless reports even in mainstream press attest to, when all else fails, the Americans take to the skies and unleash cluster bombs, willy peat and anything else they have in their arsenal. What is described as “precision bombing” is in fact a myth that any military man will tell you; air raids always kill civilians. And true to form, the US has once again taken up the cowards fight.
In a dispatch posted at 5:25pm Makkah time Tuesday afternoon, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that a US helicopter gunship attacked an Iraqi schoolhouse in the al-Baghdadi area, about 200km northwest of Baghdad.
Mafkarat al-Islam reported a source in the puppet police force as saying that seven students were killed in the American air strike and about 11 more were wounded when the helicopter opened fire on the school.
The source said that the American helicopter gun ship had come under fire from the ground on Tuesday morning, damaging the tail of the aircraft, which was seen on fire. Before landing at an American base, however, the helicopter opened fire on the al-Bahjah Secondary School where students were busy taking final exams.
Local residents described the mood in al-Baghdadi as one of outrage over the deadly attack. As of the time of reporting, the Americans had made no announcement regarding the assault.
Shiite Torture, Murder Spree Continues As 26 Bodies Found Dumped Around Baghdad
In a dispatch posted at 11:24pm Baghdad time Tuesday night, the Association of Muslim Scholars of Iraq (AMSI) reported that the puppet police recovered the bodies of 26 people who had been murdered and their bodies dumped in various parts of Baghdad.
The AMSI reported that two of the bodies had been booby-trapped and one of those exploded when puppet policemen approached. That blast wounded one puppet policeman.
AMSI reported a source in the puppet police as saying that the other bodies bore signs of torture and were bound and blindfolded. Torture is a trademark of the Shi‘i sectarian militias and the puppet government’s security forces, most of whose members are drawn from those sectarian militias.
The Shi‘i sectarian militias are pressing ahead with sectarian abductions, torture, and murder of Sunnis in an effort to “cleanse” Baghdad and vast swaths of Iraqi territory to the south and east of Sunnis. The bloody sectarian campaign is aimed at implementation of plans to partition Iraq drawn up by Zionist and American think tanks.
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You guys need to know what the people on the ground whose country we are occupying are saying.
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>>>>CAUTION RAW FOOTAGE CAUTION RAW FOOTAGE
No there are no blood and guts, but just lack of any military knowledge whatsoever. Can someone tell me what the fuck we still doing there?
Can anyone explain why we are arming these people and how we know who is who?
It is like Dick Cheney is building these concrete walls on out tax dollars for a real life version of the video game Army Men:
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Here is footage of the barbaric Al-Mahdi army working with US-backed Iraqi army as the camera man shouts "rape their sisters” and “May Ali give you victory over the people of al-fadhel city, kill all of them for the Mahdi is by your side”.
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
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I am wary of all Jews, but gassings and death will only be meted out to those who have a proven case against them... Four thousand stayed away... thats how many are gonna have to die, then take a look at the investors in put options, ...that could be hundreds of thousands. Freddy Fatt | Homepage |
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Thats a pretty fair statement Freddy... It was a despicable act, no doubt about that...
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June 13 2007 at 12:06PM
An indefinite curfew has been imposed in Baghdad from Wednesday 1100 GMT following the bombing of a revered Shi'a shrine in the northern town of Samarra, state television reported.
Baghdad already is under a nightly curfew between 11:00 pm (1900 GMT) and 6:00 am (0200 GMT).
Suspected Sunni insurgents on Wednesday blew up the minarets of a revered Shi'a shrine in the Iraqi town of Samarra, 15 months after its bombing by al-Qaeda militants ignited brutal sectarian clashes. - AFP
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And they took the day off on 911 and sat in front of the TV and watched their workmates tumble to their deaths from the upper levels... I hate them but I do not know who they are... So of all Jews I am weary but gassings and death will only be meted out to those who have a proven case against them... Four thousand stayed away... thats how many are gonna die, then take a look at the investors in put options, ...that could be hundreds of thousands.
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I certainly agree with you that this rumor is ridiculous and offensive. I have gathered some material which refutes the allegation. It is estimated that between 400 and 500 Jews died in the attacks on the World Trade Center on 9/11. The exact number is not known, since official record-keeping does not list the religions of the victims. "While no one knows for certain how many Jews were killed on Sept. 11, the most reliable estimates put the number at about 400. This despite the blasphemy spread in the Arab world that no Jews perished, having been warned by the Mossad agents who supposedly carried out the attacks."-The Jewish Week
http://www.thejewishweek.com/bot....php3?
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"A senior Jewish journalist friend called me before the first anniversary of 9/11 and said to me: 'You have to do something about the Arab concept that the Jews are responsible for 9/11. Can you find out how many Jews were killed there?' A week later I called him and said 'about 500,' which is 15 to 17 percent of all the victims killed in the World Trade Center. The figure would have been even higher had it not been for the fact that many Orthodox Jews went to work an hour later because of the Selichot prayers recited in the days before the Jewish New Year." -Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs
http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-13.htm
Here are two excellent articles which debunk the widely-spread story alleging that thousands of Jews stayed home on September 11th because they had been warned in advance of the attack:
Snopes: Rumors
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/israel.htm
Slate: 4,000 Jews, 1 Lie
http://slate.msn.com/id/116813
It is possible that some who wish to believe that 9/11 was an Israeli conspiracy will not accept all of the reference sources listed above. If that is the case, the plainest evidence that many Jews died in the World Trade Center is the list of the names of the dead:
"How many Jews actually died in the world Trade Center attacks is not known with any precision. The official New York City 'Missing Persons List' does not categorize victims by their religion or nationality. But ask families with names like Adler, Aron, Berger, Bernstein, Cohen, Eichler, Eisenberg, Feinberg, Friedlander, Goldstein, Greenstein, Horwitz, Jablonski, Kestenbaum, Kirchbaum, Kleinberg, Levi, Levine, Mayer, Rosenberg, Rosenblum, Rosenthal, Sachs, Safronoff, Schwartz, Shulman, Shwartzstein, Silverstein, Solomon, Steinman, Temple, Weil, Weinberg, Weingard, Weinstein, Weiss, Zukelman what they wouldn't give to see their loved ones again. Why didn't they get a conspiratorial cell-phone message warning them to stay home? By all appearances, the 9-11 hijackers were equal-opportunity murderers." -WorldNetDaily
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/
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Here you will find the full list of names:
9-11 Heroes
http://www.9-11heroes.us/victims...rade-
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My strategy in locating this information consisted of many Google searches, using various combinations of keyphrases such as "jews killed," "jews died," "jewish victims," "on 9/11," "september 11," "world trade center," "wtc," and "twin towers."
I hope this will be useful to you. If anything is unclear, please request clarification; I will be glad to offer further assistance.
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I do not make bland assertions re Jews nor do I rant and rave because it suits me... The Jews took down 911, nor were they true Jews who are the Sephardim the decendents of Abraham and the Jews mentioned in The Bible, who make up around seven percent of the total. The rest are the Khazars called Zionists who have usurped the function of Judah and established the outlaw modern State of Israel contrary to Jewish law. The Talmud exhorts Jews to hate... the Zion Jews who took down the WTC respond to that message, TPOTEOZ is some kinda magic document or some shit I dunno, but Grantland posts trash about it, so I guess he is some kinda sonova bitch Jew. And they took the day off on 911 and sat in front of the TV and watched their workmates tumble to their deaths from the upper levels... I hate them but I do not know who they are... So of all Jews I am weary but gassings and death will only be meted out to those who have a proven case against them... Four thousand stayed away... thats how many are gonna die, then take a look at the investors in put options, ...that could be hundreds of thousands.
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Normally I would assume most people with a third grade education and access to the internet can figure out the disinfo...but just in case I am wrong...
Anyone who talks about Sephardim Jews and other Jews is using the same Illuminati deception trickery of divide and conquer. Let us see a few examples:
Repub v. Democrat
Sunni v. Shia
Jew v. Arab
East Germany v. West Germany
Liberal c. Conservative
Left v. Right
cuban v. mexican
north korean v. south korean
Some of these groups have elites that are like brothers (clinton/bush). Some have been permanently factioned due to illuminati methods (N/S Korea). Some have found a way back to sanity (E/W germany). Some are working hard to get to peace (Israel/Syria) as they have already accomplished it before (Israel/Egypt). Some have already been outed as fakes (Left/Right, Conservative/Liberal, Republican/Democrat).
So anyone talking about the good jew v. the evil jew is talking about racism, there is no difference. Have them talkk about people who commit crimes and people who don't no matter what race, religion, sex, sect, sexual orientation, etc.
Also this whole talmud and cabalah crap is getting ridiculous.
The Talmud are books of jewish laws. They have been hijacked by knightsa templar, like the cabbalah to be used for satanic and evil purpooses. Just like Lavay did with the new testament (as well as dozens of others), just like Rushdie did with the satanic verses.
The Caballah is the study of jewish spirituality and requires a jew to be over 30 and an ordained rabbi before studying. This is done because of the abuse and deception that can be done with the writings. These writing have also been hijacked by knights templar and dozens of otheres including the red ribbon bullshit and the modanna bullshit. The have nothing to do wiuth the intentions of caballah and people who study these deceptive interpretations are violating the first 3 commandments by God.
But what is new, religious texts and religion as a tool has been used for 3,000 years to enslave, pervert, corrupt, and destroy man.
It is not a jewish, christian, islamic, buddhist, hinduist, taouist, shintoist, or any other single religious phenomenon.
For the past 6 years we have been mind controlled to hate arabs, it is such an unpatriotic and inhumane sin that 99.99% of us are guilty of.
Try to stay 2 steps ahead of the wizards, notice their style of trickery...
Chaos theory, deception, control, seduction, division, greed, power, hate, sorrow, anger, war...
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It's a terrifying spectacle Freddy... do you have any evidence.
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The New Protocols: Jews generally call The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion "a forgery." Grantland # The evil of the Jew... Grantland | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 11:20 pm | #
Grantland is a forgery... I do not make bland assertions re Jews nor do I rant and rave because it suits me... The Jews took down 911, nor were they true Jews who are the Sephardim the decendents of Abraham and the Jews mentioned in The Bible, who make up around seven percent of the total. The rest are the Khazars called Zionists who have usurped the function of Judah and established the outlaw modern State of Israel contrary to Jewish law. The Talmud exhorts Jews to hate... the Zion Jews who took down the WTC respond to that message, TPOTEOZ is some kinda magic document or some shit I dunno, but Grantland posts trash about it, so I guess he is some kinda sonova bitch Jew. And they took the day off on 911 and sat in front of the TV and watched their workmates tumble to their deaths from the upper levels... I hate them but I do not know who they are... So of all Jews I am weary but gassings and death will only be meted out to those who have a proven case against them... Four thousand stayed away... thats how many are gonna die, then take a look at the investors in put options, ...that could be hundreds of thousands.
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>>>Cheney’s Commits High Crimes against America-AGAIN!!!
by Gareth Porter
http://www.jihadunspun.com/index...ist=/index.php&
WASHINGTON - A media campaign portraying Iran as supplying arms to the Taliban guerrillas fighting U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, orchestrated by advocates of a more confrontational stance toward Iran in the George W. Bush administration, appears to have backfired last week when Defence Secretary Robert Gates and the commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, Gen. Dan McNeil, issued unusually strong denials. The allegation that Iran has reversed a decade-long policy and is now supporting the Taliban, conveyed in a series of press articles quoting “senior officials” in recent weeks, is related to a broader effort by officials aligned with Vice President Dick Cheney to portray Iran as supporting Sunni insurgents, including al Qaeda, to defeat the United States in both Iraq and Afghanistan. An article in the Guardian published May 22 quoted an anonymous U.S. official as predicting an “Iranian-orchestrated summer offensive in Iraq, linking al Qaeda and Sunni insurgents to Tehran’s Shia militia allies” and as referring to the alleged “Iran-al Qaeda linkup” as “very sinister”. That article and subsequent reports on CNN May 30, in the Washington Post Jun. 3 and on ABC news Jun. 6 all included an assertion by an unnamed U.S. official or a “senior coalition official” that Iran is following a deliberate policy of supplying the Taliban’s campaign against U.S., British and other NATO forces. In the most dramatic version of the story, ABC reported “NATO officials” as saying they had “caught Iran red-handed, shipping heavy arms, C4 explosives and advanced roadside bombs to the Taliban for use against NATO forces.” Far from showing that Iran had been “caught red-handed”, however, the report quoted from an analysis which cited only the interception in Afghanistan of a total of four vehicles coming from Iran with arms and munitions of Iranian origin. The report failed to refer to any evidence of Iranian government involvement.
Both Gates and McNeill denied flatly last week that there is any evidence linking Iranian authorities to those arms. Gates told a press conference on Jun. 4, “We do not have any information about whether the government of Iran is supporting this, is behind it, or whether it’s smuggling, or exactly what is behind it.” Gates said that “some” of the arms in question might be going to Afghan drug smugglers. The commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, Gen. McNeill, implied that the arms trafficking from Iran is being carried out by private interests. “[W]hen you say weapons being provided by Iran, that would suggest there is some more formal entity involved in getting these weapons here,” he told Jim Loney of Reuters June 5. “That’s not my view at all.” Gates and McNeill are obviously aware of the link between arms entering Afghanistan from Iran and the flow of heroin from Afghanistan into Iran. It is well known that Afghan drug lords who command huge amounts of money have been able to penetrate the long and porous border with ease. They have undoubtedly been involved in buying arms in Iran with their drug proceeds for both themselves and the Taliban, which protects their drug routes. Smuggling is relatively easy because of the money available for bribery of border guards. Another factor helping to explain the influx of arms from Iran, as noted by former Pakistani Ambassador to Afghanistan Rustam Shah Momand in an interview on Pakistan’s GEO television Apr. 19, is that the Taliban now controls areas on the Iranian border for the first time. Momand said the Taliban, which is awash in money from the heroin exports to Iran, buys small quantities of weapons in Iran and smuggles them back into Afghanistan.
But the Iranian government itself is not involved in the trade in arms, Momand insisted. The combination of anonymous statements by administration officials and the dismissal of the charge by the commander in the field contrasts sharply with the Bush administration’s claims that Iran was sending armour-piercing IEDs to Shiite militias in Iraq last January and February. Those accusations, which were never backed up with specific evidence, were made publicly by Bush himself, the State Department and the U.S. military command in Baghdad. The fact that the officials making the accusation about Iran and Afghanistan are unwilling to go on the record and the refusal of Gates and McNeill to go along with it suggests an effort by Cheney and his allies in the administration to do an “end run” around the official policy by conjuring up a region-wide Iranian offensive against U.S. forces.
Steve Clemons reported on his blog The Washington Note May 24 that an aide to Cheney has told gatherings at right-wing think tanks that Cheney is afraid Bush will not make the “right decision” on Iran and believes he must constrain the president’s choices. Iran has long regarded the Taliban regime as its primary enemy and was the first external power to support Afghan forces in an effort to overthrow it. It is not merely a sectarian Sunni-Shiite divide but the Pakistani government patronage of the Taliban that has made it an irreconcilable enemy of Iran. The line being pushed by the Cheney group in the administration that Iran is supplying the Taliban with arms appears to be based on a highly imaginative reading of some recent intelligence reporting on Iranian contacts with the Taliban. A source with access to that reporting, who insists on anonymity because he is not authorised to comment on the matter, told IPS that it indicates Iranian intelligence has had contacts with the top commanders of the Taliban’s inner Shura — the leadership council located in Kandahar. However, the source also says these intelligence reports do not provide any specific evidence of an Iranian intention to give weapons to the Taliban. The Cheney group is evidently arguing within the administration that the mere existence of contacts between Iranian intelligence and Taliban commanders, combined with the presence of arms or Iranian origin, is sufficient reason to conclude that Iran has changed its policy toward the Taliban. That argument parallels a key assertion made by Cheney and other neoconservative officials in constructing the case for war against Iraq in 2002. They insisted that any contact between an official of the Iraqi government at any level and anyone in al Qaeda was sufficient proof of its support for al Qaeda terrorism. Afghanistan specialist Seth Jones of the Rand Corporation, who visited Afghanistan most recently in early 2007, says some elements of the Iranian government may be involved in arms trafficking but that it is “very small-scale support” and that Iran does not want to strengthen the Taliban. NATO commanders in Pakistan have long been aware that the Taliban has been dependent on Pakistan for its arms and ammunition. The Telegraph reported Sunday that a NATO report on a recent battle shows the Taliban fired an estimated 400,000 rounds of ammunition, 2,000 rocket-propelled grenades and 1,000 mortar shells and had stocked over one million rounds of ammunition, all of which came from Quetta, Pakistan during the spring months.
Gareth Porter is an historian and national security policy analyst. His latest book, “Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam“, was published in June 2005.
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Its amazing. Apparently it is okay to slam eachother in here, but someone who takes the time to say somethin short yet worthwhile it "moderated" Must not have used the keywords Bull poop or jew or rothshild or american, etc. THIS IS NOT AN AMERICAN PROBLEM - THIS IS A WORLD PROBLEM. Wake up.
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Yeah fuck those moderators, why can't they just make this an open blog where people can evaluate things for themselves. THose fricking moderators are stopping free speach!
Bravo!!!
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Its amazing. Apparently it is okay to slam eachother in here, but someone who takes the time to say somethin short yet worthwhile it "moderated" Must not have used the keywords Bull poop or jew or rothshild or american, etc. THIS IS NOT AN AMERICAN PROBLEM - THIS IS A WORLD PROBLEM. Wake up.
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LOL! Watch the video, sheeple. sane is the head sp00k around here. A Jew and a liar - but I repeat myself.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h? v=qnR3yCLAE3w
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I watched the video of wise one who knows not how to lie. Do you happen to have any documentation to support these "truths" or actual evidence, you know like this:
NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP Seq 1 - Leipzig/Penig 8 min - Apr 19, 2007 NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP (Allied Docufilm '45)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h?
v=0tjYZ_T816Y
NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP Seq 2 - Ohrdruf 6 min - Apr 20, 2007 NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP (Allied Docufilm '45)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h?
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IBM service in nazi concentration-camps! 6 min - May 14, 2007 - (1 rating) ... through financial constructions and IBM systems were installed in the nazi ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h?
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097.Auschwitz.the camp was build by Rudolf Höss,April 1940 2 min - Feb 1, 2007 ... journeyed through Poland to take up the job of Commandant of a new Nazi concentration ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?
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NEW WORLD ORDER - FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERI... 7 min - Mar 20, 2007 - (47 ratings) ... REALITYNETWORK FOR MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS. This is footage of a FEMA run concentration ...
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Dachau C. Camp Germany
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Dachau Concentration Camp - Tribute 10 min - Apr 18, 2007 - (2 ratings) The following is a video summary of the Dachau Concentration Camp used by the ...
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Against The Odds trailer 2 min - Sep 4, 2006 - (2 ratings)... Resistance Movement in Nazi Concentration Camps 45 mins, Documentary, Spring ...
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Breendonk Concentration Camp Raw Footage 5 min - Nov 9, 2006 - (7 ratings) Video taken at Breendonk Concentration camp outside of Brussels, Belgium. ...
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Kaufering Concentraion Camps in area of Landsberg Germany - Dach... 21 min - Feb 9, 2007 - (4 ratings) ... among the worst of all Nazi Concentration camps. At the main Dachau camp, ...
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All the same COINTELPRO agent with non-sensical rants. But what is the purpose?
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Yup Prescott's Final Solution COINTELPRO agents [actually only one with 10 different nicks]. They are forced to bubble up the anti-semitic rhetoric so that when Cheney's next false flag terror attack goes off, jews can be blamed this time (instead of Arabs last time). They will be taken by train to the 600 concentration camps that Halliburton/Cheney is building. They figure do the concentration camp thing with a race that is used to it.
These COINTELPRO agents continue to pass on statements that make the "one-race" connection just like they did with the Arab/Osama bin Laden connection. It worked before, they usually stick with things that have worked. Cheney will set off at least 5 more false flag incidents in Israel (kidnapping, suicide bomber, US trained insurgent, others). Israeli pilots will be sent in to attack innocents, 75% will refuse to fire, but 25% discharge of US depleated uranium shells is enough to continue the distraction from the over 1,000,000 innocent deaths caused by cheney.
Why do you think people post with no references, no logic, cut and paste other people's quotes to fit their agenda, use multiple nicks as if there was more than one agent? This is COINTELPRO all the way. They convinced many that if they connected semites with 911 then people would stop asking questions. This allowed many in the know about 911 to agree to blame the jews (even murdoch and redstone).
But the real plan is unfolding as continued rhetoric blames one race even after the cat is out of the bag that 9/11 was an inside job.
So the plan is now revealed...
1. Do 911
2. Overpursue Arabs (just like overpursuing jews allowed israel alone to be a country when the plan was for both israel and palestine to exist in 1948 )
3. As the truth comes out that the arabs did not do it, find another scapegoat race quickly before the barbarians get too close to the truth.
4. Link all the puppets that are in that race (not the masters or other puppets who have different races) to the incident.
5. Leek info about false flags blaming only one race as if they invented false flags.
It is essential to present one race as being the main culprit. This follows all of Illuminati's standard game plans:
-KKK
-German Nazi Party
-Anti American Indian Group
-Modern Neo Nazi
-Al-Qaeda
-Zionists
-Nation of Islam (elijah muhammed)
Of course this is only a veil that hides the true interest of total enslavement and control by illuminati and NWO.
Same formula with interchangeable races.
Make sure to take out all your gold fillings so that they don't rip your teeth out on the trains or at the COncentration I mean FEMA Halliburton Cheney Death Camps...
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../?
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Why do you think MSNBC runs 4 hours of "lock-up" every night...
So you can see your future and when it becomes the present, you will think it is normal.
WAKE UP!
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LOL! Watch the video, sheeple. sane is the head sp00k around here. A Jew and a liar - but I repeat myself.
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The evil of the Jew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h? v=qnR3yCLAE3w
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FYI to anyone just dropping by. This is an example of a COINTELPRO agent that attempts to act as though they are part of the stream. Just ignore and move on to more truths, or ask questions if you seek answers on this disoinfo or anything else.
cheers!
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Now tell me again who are the Terrorists?
Collateral Damage Means REAL people.
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Dude, watching TV is like watching people that spend billions of dollars to NOT report the news. They go to such extraordinary lengths to not report anything of value.
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I think this one of your old ones Tired
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It is, but truth that I put here can be rehashed by anyone, i'm not in a race...Keep up the good work dude....
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Some Things to laugh at and to ponder:
A Bully Gets Bullied
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...related&
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Al Franken: Where Rush Limbaugh's Facts Come From
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...related&
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Bill O'Reilly gets his ass kicked by Phil Donahue!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...related&
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Keith Olbermann Neuters Bill O'Reilly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O...related&
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Rush Limbaugh Won't Answer Question About Iraq War
HMMM! Rush sounds exactly like Insahannity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...related&
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Tucker and Olbermann let O'Reilly have it
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Simulation exercises that make attacks easier
Just like military organizations, which carry out periodic exercises to check their equipment and organizational capacity for real combats, public civilian powers also hold their own attack-simulation exercises. By considering a hypothetical disaster, like that of a suicide airplane or the explosion of a bomb in the subway, crisis management groups are trained to coordinate relief actions and rapid responses. However, recent studies have shown that what should save lives has been used to make attacks easier. This is what happened in London on July 7, 2005 or in New York on September 11, 2001.
http://www.voltairenet.org/
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I think this one of your old ones Tired
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This is what we stand for
Welcome to the New America
http://www.salon.com/news/abu_gh...4/introduction/
http://911review.com/motive/
afgh...fghanistan.html
http://www.salon.com/news/abu_gh...4/introduction/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...1/01/
wmil01.xml
http://www.cursor.org/stories/
ci...lian_deaths.htm
http://www.apfn.net/
MESSAGEBOARD...ion.cgi.61.html
http://www.irc-online.org/fpif/
c...oldam_body.html
http://www.aztlan.net/
iraqichild...ldrenhorror.htm
http://www.albasrah.net/images/i.../iraqi-
pow1.htm
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inHum...old-
Dossier.pdf
http://www.counterpunch.org/
dard...an08072003.html
http://www.marymacelveen.com/blo.../3/
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http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/
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http://www.commondreams.org/head...s03/0331-
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http://www.ssrc.org/sept11/essay...ays/
khattak.htm
http://www.salon.com/news/featur.../16/abu_ghraib/
http://www.antiwar.com/news/?art...?
articleid=2444
http://www.thememoryhole.com/war...raqis_tortured/
http://www.thememoryhole.com/war...raqis_tortured/
http://www.usatoday.com/news/wor...-
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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Now tell me again who are the Terrorists?
Collateral Damage Means REAL people.
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i miss my buddy gabe
he makes me laugh
i will have to submerge myself in every link supplied by sane and true lies
freddy fatt can take it in the pie hole
what a tool
freddie is nsa
he shares a two bdrm apt with his gay lover hugo
im sure freddy is the reciever
hugo enjoys long romantic walks on the beach
they cook and clean together
favorite color: cornflower blue
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More of who pays for their lies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h?v=WIw-
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...h?
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Cheney/Bush/Clinton/Rudy/McCain/Hannity/Wolf lies and look who dies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h?
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My purpose is to liberate the Jews from Khazar oppression. And in that respect more so resemble The Golem than any fictional character.Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:11 pm | #
Way to go Freddy...
Footsteps of The AChrist |
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As much as i can see the reason that many think this, it is not time of revelations. - Tired
I have to respectfully disagree. As much time as I have spent trying to warn people about secular information let alone the spiritual side, there are only a small fraction that will turn away from their wicked ways. And unfortunately, that is exactly why this will all transpire very quickly.
Besides, when have we ever in the history of mankind had so many ways to reduce the population of earth by the millions, and then electronically enslave the rest with RFID technology and bio-chips?
No Tired. As much as I would like to believe it is not so, this does indeed parallel the scripture. I struggle with the divine inspiration part, merely because I do not follow mainstream Christianity's version like the rapture etc; and I think everything is a "miracle". I do not distinguish between everyday reality and the supernatural. Perhaps it is just a paradigm problem for me.....
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Hans Rudel, I have read several people saying an air to ground missile hit building 6, is this true, do you know... 9-11 truther | 06.14.07 - 9:22 pm | #
Checking back Truther… Freddy’s article alerted me then I googled… Jack White’s 911 Studies: The South Tower was hit at 9:03, at 9:04 CNN televised a significant explosion between the North Tower and Building 7 the location of the 8-Story Customs House, WTC 6… Photo: a pyroclastic cloud in an inner city environment, caption… while onlookers were distracted by the events at skyscraper level, moments after the second plane hit the South Tower, WTC 6 was torn apart by a massive explosion. The crater in the building was eight stories deep, an immense hole blasted into the sub basements… all eight stories missing… no wreckage… blown away…
Here’s another of Freddy’s pieces…
Jews Jews Jews the Jews did it, now they gotta suffer... cast your mind forward ... there's Jews being gassed at the WTC site... I decided to kill 'em with monoxide, forty bulldozers and a hundred Mack trucks have been waiting, their engines idling... Inside the chamber Jews are tethered in long lines, there are a few sporadic attempts at jocularity and a small amount of singing... These are the four thousand who failed to show up on 911. The exhaust from the diesel engines has been hosed into a header and I activate the mechanism that diverts the lethal fumes into the glass walled chamber... Outside in the snow those who want to, witness the death of the Jews. Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:03 pm | #
Have a nice day… Hans.
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Even a baby Knows Bush is a patsy and an Idiot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h?
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just saw Angelina Jolie told FOX NEWS to stick it where the sun don't shine..sounds like she's been listening to Alex & others & waking up about the FOX Pentagon news brainwashing channel..& with Brad of course...her lawyer said they could not take the interview tape[if they did one which they didn't] & edit the interview to Fox's NWO-ish point of view..only FOX could turn a Angelina Jolie interview into a plug for George Bush as you know & the wonderful illegals].. agree with Jolie...either live interviews on her[my] terms or get the L away from me.period...the main stream is completely,absolutely out of hand & needs to be put in their place ..& I mean especially FOX shill news..
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Night All. Join us tomorrow for Truth Fest VI.
Truth.....It's Out There.....NOW!
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The Truth about the Vista logo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O...h?v=O2GyGv-
RqFM
Vista install in 2 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h?
v=FVbf9tOGwno
George W. Bush's Real State of the Union Address
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h?
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Sane, I posted some stuff on Gaydamak for ya. Read on, Truth forward, and NWO to HELL!
Tired Of The Lies | 06.14.07 - 8:41 pm | #
Yup a wizard octopus.
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FALSE FLAG ANYONE!!
COLLASPED ECONOMY!
CAN YOU SAY----NORTH AMERICAN UNION!!
THE IMMIGRATION BILL IS THE TICKET!!
THAT'S WHY BUSH WANTS IT SO BAD!!
LAST CHANCE TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY!!--CALL WASHINGTON AGAINST THIS EVIL BILL!!
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...False Flag Operations are real, they are basically LIES to excite the people to war...Vote Ron Paul in 2008 ...When I went to Vietnam we used to say among ourselves that if our government would send the Hells Angels over here this war would come to an end in one or two days... jbrid1138 | 06.14.07 - 8:47 pm | #
Absolute fukken bullshit...
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Salvation Revelation
http://
salvationrevelation.ning....evelationdotcom
BABYLON THE GREAT.
http://groups.msn.com/
TwelveTrib...terbabylon.msnw
Where are the Revelations?
http://www.greaterthings.com/
Ess...revelations.htm
I have heard several say that We are living in Revelations. As much as i can see the reason that many think this, it is not time of revelations. This is simply man and his Want for power and his Greed turning the Opiate of The Masses to his own advantage. Many of the Secret Societies of the NWO existed long before the Revelation was ever written. The Revelation simply gave these Secret Societies a way to Decieve the people. Look through history and at certain Kings and Leaders that never believed the Bible or the GOD of the BIBLE, yet freely gave of it to the people. The Bible has been used by the NWO to gain control over the people and to fool them into believing that this is all meant to happen. This is what I see happening, the Second Coming of the Christ will happen soon. But lest we forget that the Bible says that the FALSE CHRIST comes first. But how many times do we hear pastors, priests, ETC talk about that? Why do we listen to clergy anyway, they are as bad as the NWO in that they seek to control their congregations. They talk about their church's "doctrine", who gave them the authority to write "doctrines" in the name of GOD or Christ? If people would stop letting others "translate" the word to them and read it for themselves they will see how it is being used to foster NWO and it's goals.
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To SANE: Watched the video you suggested //
If you are asking me -- Do I believe EVIL exist in this world? My answer is YES, of course, it's all around us, been there, continues to be there.
If you want to know if I believe the things depicted (mentioned) in that video? Again my answer is YES // Every damn bit of it is true.
If you're asking me specifically to comment on Vietnam and the lies that put us there (The Gulf of Tonkin incident) // again I must sadly report that as I have come to understand it -- true, true, true (the lies happened and are documented accordingly).
When I went to Vietnam there were hardly any American soldiers in country; I was initially assigned to Saigon where I would walk the entire city and never see another GI. Before I left (16 months later -- had moved onwards to Cat Lai, an old bombed out French compound along the Bong Song River where I spent most of my time) you couldn't walk two feet inside Saigon without bumping into 20 or 30 GI's. We all thought at the time that something wasn't quite right about our being in Vietnam, it seemed to drag on day by day, the deaths increasing each and everyday while those in charge just kinda sit back and allowed things to move slowly along -- we used to say among ourselves that if our government would send Hells Angels (motorcycle club) over here this war would come to an end in one or two days -- that's how noticeable things were. We didn't know about the Gulf of Tonkin being a lie at the time, but something just didn't feel right, if you can undersand my rant here.
False Flag Operations are real // they are basically LIES initiated by the powers-to-be (our government) to excite the people to war. There is documented proof of these happenings as I will show you by providing this link to the Northwoods Document from our former Joint Chiefs of Staff (1962) in the Pentagon // click on the various pages to enlarge for easy reading -- but do take the time to read and discover that we are on to their tricks/their lies.
http://911exposed.org/Northwoods.htm
In closing that video you suggested is absolutely something EVERYONE needs to watch.
Vote Ron Paul in 2008; and hopefully we will be moving in the right direction to regain control over our wonderful country we all love and hold so dear.
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Fat Freddy:THANKS FOR THE COMPLEMENT,FOR I AM AGAINST THIS COMMUNIST/FASCIST GOVT SCUM WHO ARE RUNNING THE GOVT RIGHT NOW.COMEING FROM A COMMUNIST/FASCIST COLLEGE EDUCATED SWETTY LIKE YOU.GEE,PLEASE POST IT AGAIN,I FUCKING LOVE IT TERRY OLD MAN IN FLA Endtimetruther | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 8:11 pm | #
Stand like a man or die like a fukken dog, is because of cowardice or treason that you fail to stand like a true American against your country's enemies. The Jews did it... it was a giant insurance scam... the Kikes who post trash here are liable... they are led by a Jew named Scott Makufka who is Mossad boss on the American mainland, and you are reminiscing about your trip to Vietnam forty two years ago. I never made it to college, aged fourteen after year nine at Port Augusta High School the teachers and the school counsellor told me not to come back. I am a trade union official in a union with a backlog of around sixty unsolved murders of our members on our books, I was elected to this position on a reform package that included me expelling around fifty union members, and taking the matter of the murders to the police. Homepage>Journals.
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Sane, I posted some stuff on Gaydamak for ya. Read on, Truth forward, and NWO to HELL!
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anyway, I bid you all good night, thanks again,
looks like one dangerous summer ahead.
will watch the rest of SICKO before I go to bed.
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Feature: New World Order or Red World Order? Not All Conspiracy Theories Are Created Equal
http://once-upon-a-time-in-the-
w...7418276488.html
Will Kranjcar succeed in the EPL % ??
http://www.xtratime.org/forums/s...t=200270&
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Alexandre Gaydamak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ale...xandre_Gaydamak
Wealthy businessman in Russia wants to revive a Jewish group
http://www.ncsj.org/AuxPages/
062..._Gaydamak.shtml
British Warrant Issued in French Arms Row
http://www.globalpolicy.org/secu...01/
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Arcadi Gaydamak
http://www.answers.com/topic/arc...arcadi-
gaydamak
Gaydamak's 'tent city' for Sderot residents in Tel Aviv to close Monday
http://www.ynetnews.com/
articles...3408373,00.html
Gaydamak acquires third public company
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/...0218557&
fid=942
Tycoon to launch right-wing party in Israel
http://news.independent.co.uk/
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Making a Killing: The Business of War
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=c...clnk&cd=4&
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Democrats Kill Democracy and Protect a Criminal Presidency in New Mexico
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/
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The chinese were advisors for the NVA in Nam. chris jones | 06.14.07 - 6:17 pm | #
Bullshit.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 6:50 p
Hi Fred. You have a way with words. I honestly not interested if you believe me or not. I do however beleive the men who shared this info. , by the way Fred, I do not fok around with the truth. The chinese are not little penguins type doing laundry for you. And the guys I spoke of were not inexperienced. Anyway Fred, I took the time to answer, and now after your coment Im wondering why.
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anyway, I bid you all good night, thanks again,
looks like one dangerous summer ahead.
will watch the rest of SICKO before I go to bed.
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From Jack White’s 911 Studies: The South Tower was hit at 9:03, at 9:04 CNN televised a significant explosion between the North Tower and Building 7 the location of WTC 6, the 8-Story Customs House… Photo: a pyroclastic cloud in an inner city environment, caption… while onlookers were distracted by the events at skyscraper level, moments after the second plane hit the South Tower, WTC 6 was torn apart by a massive explosion. The crater in the building was eight stories deep, an immense hole blasted into the sub basements… all eight stories missing… no wreckage… blown away…
Vaporized by the thermonuclear warhead on the missile, it seems.
This is the Jew response: “…Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower...” Aw crap. 1984 | 06.13.07 - 10:31 pm | #
Aw crap yourself, the Jews took down the WTC and all you can say is, ...Aw crap.
KMA kiss my ass...
Jews Jews Jews the Jews did it, now they gotta suffer... cast your mind forward ... there's Jews being gassed at the WTC site... I decided to kill 'em with monoxide, forty bulldozers and a hundred Mack trucks have been waiting, their engines idling... Inside the chamber Jews are tethered in long lines, there are a few attempts at jocularity and a small amount of singing... These are the four thousand who failed to show up on 911. The exhaust from the deisel engines has been hosed into a header and I activate the mechanism that diverts the lethal fumes into the glass walled chamber... Outside in the snow those who want to, witness the death of the Jews. Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:03 pm | #
LOL, freddy. You are dumbass, insane, gullible fucktard! LMAO Amuzed | 06.14.07 - 4:59 pm | #
Freddy!! is there a better way. Hans Rudel | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:38 pm | #
Thanks for the feedback Hans... I considered Cyklon B but it'd be too hard to get, and would entail a more sophisticated delivery system... How would you do it...
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Sumerian civilization / Nephelim (NEFILIM) walked the Earth...
http://www.greatdreams.com/cnsprcy.htm
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Both those guys got nothing on Gaydamak who is not even jewish but red mob. He is also wanted in France for 600 million in war profiteering from angolan deaths. He is poised to greatly influence things and was responsible for most of the lebenon invasion recently. Watch out for that guy, he is like a kissinger sitting in the halls of Israel's powerbase. Most israelis do not realize it because he throws money around, butys media outlets and soccer teams. He is a cancer in the middle east and would profit the most from war.
sane | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 8:14 pm | #
I have heard of this guy but do not know much about him, thank you for the tip. there is ALWAYS someone behind the scenes
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Rapture Ready Administrators and their backers: Anti-Christ and Pro New World Order Posts
Rapture Ready Administrators and their backers: Anti-Christ and Pro New World Order Posts
THE NEW WORLD ORDER
piano coverss and Rumors of piano coverss
http://www.balaams-ass.com/journ...rophecy/
nwo.htm
The Principle Components of the Dajjal System
http://etori.tripod.com/dajjalsy...system/
home.htm
The New World Order and the Talmud
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/
t...talmud_nwo.html
The Unholy Alliance -
Christianity & The NWO
Part IV
http://www.rense.com/general21/u...l21/
unholy4.htm
German and US Involvement in the Balkans:
A Careful Coincidence of National Policies?
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/nwo/.../carr-s-
95.html
Here are some interesting links. I do not necessarily agree with everything on a particular web site, or especially as they link to other pages. There are many web sites available on this topic, and these are just a few that I find helpful.
http://www.crossandcompass.com/links.htm
VATICAN AND SECRET SOCIETIES IN PURSUIT OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER PART 1
http://www.cuttingedge.org/ce1037.html
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TRUTHAMANIA...it's running wild!
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Guys just remember :
>>>NWO ranked #1 Scariest YouTube Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...WyJJQbFago&
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It would be good if he did take over, he would be in a stronger position than Olmert, do not discount Netanfuck tho', he is one bad muthfucka and is way more to the racist loony right than Sharon.
Who I reckon was possibly poisoned for the Gaza withdrawal. Still unintended consequences , one bad bad man sitting in a chair dribbling and shitting himself just like he deserves.
Biggs | 06.14.07 - 7:59 pm | #
Both those guys got nothing on Gaydamak who is not even jewish but red mob. He is also wanted in France for 600 million in war profiteering from angolan deaths. He is poised to greatly influence things and was responsible for most of the lebenon invasion recently. Watch out for that guy, he is like a kissinger sitting in the halls of Israel's powerbase. Most israelis do not realize it because he throws money around, butys media outlets and soccer teams. He is a cancer in the middle east and would profit the most from war.
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wtf is with the billions of comments on all these articles lately?
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Fat Freddy:THANKS FOR THE COMPLEMENT,FOR I AM AGAINST THIS COMMUNIST/FASCIST GOVT SCUM WHO ARE RUNNING THE GOVT RIGHT NOW.COMEING FROM A COMMUNIST/FASCIST COLLEGE EDUCATED SWETTY LIKE YOU.GEE,PLEASE POST IT AGAIN,I FUCKING LOVE IT TERRY OLD MAN IN FLA
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Iraq death toll 'soared post-war'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/
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Chenney/bush its not their oil,its Rothchilds,Queen of England and the little degenerate CFR,communist,Rockefeller that should be droping dead like the two assholes Sane told off,dont forgeth Billy Graham wife died today,another masion one world religon of the antichrist backer.NO TEARS SHED BY ME,MATTER OF FACT I WILL HAVE A DRINK IN HAPPINESS OF THEIR DEATH. terry
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Dude, you missed the news Netanfuckhead lost and so did the AEI/CIA plant, Ehud Barak is in line to be the next PM and he has already been a supporter of getting out of the occupied territories and making sure the palestinians have their own country. He was on track to do this until Ariel Sharon with a smaller win than George Bush. BSharon, like Bush took power in the first quarter of 2001. This Neocon war crowd was planned all over the world. Sharon was a known terrorist demoted for putting Israeli troops in harms way just to kill civilians. Also 2 wives and his son mysteriously died. The comatose motherfucker is pure evil. Olmert and Netanfuck are just a liitle less evil, but Barak has the Israeli people in mind and is a true patriot to Israel. He is ther closest thing to Ron Paul running for PM. I pray that he makes it, otherwise the site I link to on my homepage will likely grow with many more innocent palestinian child deaths.
sane | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:54 pm | #
It would be good if he did take over, he would be in a stronger position than Olmert, do not discount Netanfuck tho', he is one bad muthfucka and is way more to the racist loony right than Sharon.
Who I reckon was possibly poisoned for the Gaza withdrawal. Still unintended consequences , one bad bad man sitting in a chair dribbling and shitting himself just like he deserves.
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Endtimetruther | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:41 pm | # you are a God Damn traitor
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http://www.icasualties.org/oif/
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wow Tired, 705 links in my folder from you, plus others in a word doc with sane's stuff (200 pages to sift through). A whole lotta info.
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China was a adviser and weapon supplier and troop supplier to N.VietNam... After battles N Vietnam cut the head s off the dead chinese troops,so americans would not know communist china was provideing troops... I did not see this my self... I swear this to be true... why the hell would I lie... we must vote Ron Paul in and save our troops and bring them home NOW. TERRY
Endtimetruther | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:41 pm | #
Full on wanker, like Ron Paul both too chickenshit to touch WTC and Jews, says hearsay in a bar confirms the existance of Chinese troops... Fukken idiot. Typical Jew shit as well, selling weaponry to the North Vietnamese Govt. is not the same as having advisors on the ground WHITCH THEY NEVER HAD. How come you haven't got the guts to stand against the Jews who took down the WTC 'cause I say you are a God Damn traitor.
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Well i gotta have my dreams. 2 of the most evil men on the planet died recently, Waldheim and Falwell, so things are looking up.
sane | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:32 pm | #
Plus a member of the Rothschild clan in France, but he was 98 so not such a result.
yes it is good that Olmert is talking to Syria, but for how long, I mean this guy does not look like he will last out against netanyahu for very long, and he sure as hell won't talk to no untermenschen Arabs.
However, at least there is some hope. But you should have heard this guy on CNN, every few seconds the words ANTI SYRIAN MP boomed out, it was truly sickening.
Biggs | 06.14.07 - 7:39 pm | #
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Dude, you missed the news Netanfuckhead lost and so did the AEI/CIA plant, Ehud Barak is in line to be the next PM and he has already been a supporter of getting out of the occupied territories and making sure the palestinians have their own country. He was on track to do this until Ariel Sharon with a smaller win than George Bush. BSharon, like Bush took power in the first quarter of 2001. This Neocon war crowd was planned all over the world. Sharon was a known terrorist demoted for putting Israeli troops in harms way just to kill civilians. Also 2 wives and his son mysteriously died. The comatose motherfucker is pure evil. Olmert and Netanfuck are just a liitle less evil, but Barak has the Israeli people in mind and is a true patriot to Israel. He is ther closest thing to Ron Paul running for PM. I pray that he makes it, otherwise the site I link to on my homepage will likely grow with many more innocent palestinian child deaths.
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There is info that the Leader of Iran is a Mason,as is Chaves,nothing in world political crap is a accident.I beleive all world leaders have been set up in power by the Illuminati,these evil bastards have been at this shit for 300 yrs,planning the beast system 666 of the anitchrist,its here and now.The antichrist is here and now most likey Syria,he will be smart,good looking and a big liar and deciever.The research is out there go look for it.We live in very interesting times,trouble is they want to destroy america,the last country with guns in the hands of the people,which they will come for soon.Good news I think the sheep will wake up when they crash the money system and have a depression,so as to bring in the NAU and the amero dollar.200 million gun owners in america,give them the bullets first. terry the old man in fla
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In defense of that, American troops must be kept healthy so they can more effectively babysit Cheney's oil.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.14.07 - 7:48 pm | #
LOL
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http://www.constitution.org/col/...l/
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Shall we even approach the subject of the medical care the troops receive?
Tired Of The Lies | 06.14.07 - 7:47 pm | #
the care they get once they are home sucks, in both countries, anything to save a buck , patients ignored or wiped off lists etc. But at least in the Uk they have the NHS, even if it is not a dreamland fo medical treatment. whereas in the USA they are reliant on the VA hospitals which can tend to refuse treatment (unlike the NHS)
But the one thing they have in common is lack of treatment for DU poisoning and for trauma (PTSD etc etc), in both countries the benefits for disabled vets are pretty damned poor too, they are generally forgotten and it is hoped that they go away and do not make a fuss. which is often the case given said trauma, DU poisoning, TBI etc
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And he claimed that U.S. troops are given high-quality meat while British soldiers make do with cheap sausages and chips.
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In defense of that, American troops must be kept healthy so they can more effectively babysit Cheney's oil.
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And he claimed that U.S. troops are given high-quality meat while British soldiers make do with cheap sausages and chips.
Biggs | 06.14.07 - 7:43 pm | #
Shall we even approach the subject of the medical care the troops receive?
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Fight for Her majesties government in iraq and be rewarded.
rewarded with good food perhaps????? eeeerrrr no not exactly,
British troops in iraq have a daily food budget of only £1.51 - a little less than 3 bucks. The food they are served is so bad they are nto getting their required intake of nutrients every day, but hey its onyl 50 dwegrees outside and the jaish Al Mehdi want to kill you, so here is a bad bad suasage and soem chips, tomorrow will be the same as will Saturday.
geee, ain't serving the war effort noble.
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The Army spends more feeding its dogs than its soldiers, it has been claimed.
Figures obtained by a Tory MP show that £1.51 a day goes on meals for troops, compared with £2.63 for military dogs.
Even prisoners – who cost £1.87 a day to feed – fare better than servicemen. Schoolchildren get £1.55 for lunch alone.
The MP, Mike Penning, is to raise the issue in the House of Commons today. The former Grenadier Guard said troops serving in war zones such as Iraq were being denied decent meals.
And he claimed that U.S. troops are given high-quality meat while British soldiers make do with cheap sausages and chips.
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The People's Republic of China's involvement in the Vietnam War began in 1949, when the communists took over the country. The Communist Party of China (CPC) provided material and technical support to the Vietnamese communists. In the summer of 1962, Mao Zedong agreed to supply Hanoi with 90,000 rifles and guns free of charge. After the launch of Operation Rolling Thunder, China sent anti-aircraft units and engineering battalions to North Vietnam to repair the damage caused by American bombing, rebuild roads, railroads and to perform other engineering works. This freed North Vietnamese army units for combat in the South. Between 1965 and 1970 over 320,000 Chinese soldiers served in North Vietnam. The peak was 1967, when 170,000 served there. Although Chinese assistance was accepted gladly, the North Vietnamese remained distrustful of their larger neighbour. This was due to the historical antipathy between the two nations. China emerged as the principle backer of the Khmer Rouge. The People's Republic of China briefly launched an invasion of Vietnam in 1979, in retaliation for its invasion of Cambodia to depose the Khmer Rouge. In April 2006, a ceremony was held in Vietnam to honor the almost 1100 Chinese soldiers who were killed in the Vietnam War.
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China was a adviser and weapon supplier and troop supplier to N.VietNam.After battles N Vietnam cut the head s off the dead chinese troops,so americans would not know communist china was provideing troops.I did not see this my self,as I was in the area south of Siagon.But I spent 3 days in replacement station at tnosonute airbase,waiting for my flight home to america and drank(got drunk as a loon) and was talking to guys who were stationed all over Nam,some of these guys were in basic training with me at Ft Knox Ky.We all went our seperate ways after basic training.So this was a home comeing to us guys when we met up in replacement ctr.I was in Viet Nam starting dec 25 1965.I swear this to be true,why the hell would I lie??But thats the past,we must vote Ron Paul in and save our troops and bring them home NOW. TERRY
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Well i gotta have my dreams. 2 of the most evil men on the planet died recently, Waldheim and Falwell, so things are looking up.
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Plus a member of the Rothschild clan in France, but he was 98 so not such a result.
yes it is good that Olmert is talking to Syria, but for how long, I mean this guy does not look like he will last out against netanyahu for very long, and he sure as hell won't talk to no untermenschen Arabs.
However, at least there is some hope. But you should have heard this guy on CNN, every few seconds the words ANTI SYRIAN MP boomed out, it was truly sickening.
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Jews Jews Jews the Jews did it, now they gotta suffer... cast your mind forward ... there's Jews being gassed at the WTC site... I decided to kill 'em with monoxide, forty bulldozers and a hundred Mack trucks have been waiting, their engines idling... Inside the chamber Jews are tethered in long lines there are a few spasmodic attempts at jocularity and a small amount of singing... These are the four thousand who failed to show up on 911. The exhaust from the deisel engines has been hosed into a header and I activate the mechanism that diverts the lethal fumes into the glass walled chamber... Outside in the snow those who want to, witness the death of the Jews. Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:03 pm | #
Freddy!! is there a better way.
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I haven't seen that video yet, I'll get back to you on it.
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It is a history of the fed reserve and wars since 1900s. It talks about prescott bush and JP supporting Hitler and also mentions that Vietnam was being supported by US via china. They said that it was decided that vietnam was not to be won but to be sustained (sound familiar?). There is a lot of other stuff and I thought you might be able to shen light. Tired if you got any info on this, I would appreciate it as always.
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No prizes for guessing the intention there then.
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I have talked around and there is a strange thing going on in the middle east. It seems that Lebenon and Syria are rethinking some of the alliances with Iran as some information came out that the Iran-Contra affair was not a short term event. They also seem to have information about the Iran/US tension being used as an excuse to take over syria and lebenoon using Israel as the major aggressor. I mean that is no big deal, the problem now is that they used to do short term strikes, even Gulf War 1 was a limited power grab. But they are starting to realize that this will be a WW spark using their lands as a staging ground. This has caused unprecedented communication between Israel and Syria (probably the most significant in 50 years). If Israel, Syria, Lebenon create a nation block, the iran invasion will look 10x more ludacris than it already does. Again as Tired put it, these unorthodox peacenicks will probably be CIA Fatwah killed like Sadat and Rabin. Well i gotta have my dreams. 2 of the most evil men on the planet died recently, Waldheim and Falwell, so things are looking up.
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Not a very intelligent comment to make. I was mostly agreeing with you but maybe I'd better go back and take a relook. You sound like a real ass wipe saying something like that to me // Makes me want to reply in kind to you: shit for brains. jbrid1138 | 06.14.07 - 7:09 pm | #
You're posting record is no good... at no time at all during the Vietnam war did Chinese troops engage in combat against ARVN or MACV forces either as advisors or in any other capacity. That Chinese Vietnamese citizens stood in the lines is a well known fact, attested to by the large number of Chinese names in Vietnamese war cemetaries.
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Cut and paste Freddy. Start putting it into your own words....
How you gonna manage getting all the "good" JEWS out of the ovens when your RECKLESS remarks about JEWS are generally and broadly applied nearly every time you speak of "JEWS"???
YOU should use a caveat each and every time you try to indite the entire race and religion. Otherwise, you are just inciting hatred and violence and playing right into Biblical prophecy. But perhaps that is your real motive anyway....
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jbird, you say you spent time in vietnam, is the stuff in this video true? If it is, we have some bigger problems in iraq than i thought:
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Yes, I was there; I volunteered to go thinking I was doing something back then to help protect my (our) country. I spent a total of 26-years in the active army thinking the same thing.
I haven't seen that video yet, I'll get back to you on it.
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Every time the "official Story" propogators have a paper or give the reasons the towers fell, they are always proven to be wrong every time, as their "explani=ations to one question raises fifty more questions. One simply question about WTC 7 made the NWO bastards change the "official story" four times. That question was "What started the fires"
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hey sane, hey Tired, lots more good stuff on here tonight, many thanks again.
Seemingly the Mosque bombing is having the desired effect, 10 Sunni mosques now attacked with upto 6 of them destroyed, plus 50 Sunnis murdered in al Bai'aa by elements of the Jaish al Mehdi
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m3366...&hd=&size=1&
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Also, I stupidly turned on CNN earlier today and the wanker guy presenter (one of the famous ones) kept saying ANT SYRIAN MP, ANTI SYRIAN MP ANTI SYRIAN MP ANTI SYRIAN MP, all in a loud booming voice whenever he said the words - anti Syrian MP.
No prizes for guessing the intention there then.
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You see all the Mideast activity? Think we are gonna have another CIA-Sadat-Rabin sacrificial rite or could this one have legs?
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Is that question rhetorical? Because it isn't a question of are we, it is a question of how soon?
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To SANE:
You're right, once they start all that scientific debunking talk then the real experts (our side of the argument) will have exchanges in rebuttal -- it will attact even more attention and make the idiots look even dumber. Can't wait for such exchanges, they are over due already.
I like the ones where jet fuel (keroscene) was somehow magically able to melt steel; almost as good as their pancake theory knocking down all the central support columns and doing so at near free fall speed // they even try and argue the point and make sense out of that while avoiding the obvious demolition of the buildings. You have to laugh at some of their attempts, sad as it truly is. They insult the family members of 9/11 and the memjory of all those that met their death that day and then turn and say it is the truthseekers who are doing this.
It's them doing that and yet they say it's us. I suppose once your mind get set in total crap (official story) it becomes part of it and a person loses all sense of reality.
Wake up, folks -- 9/11 was an inside job.
Vote Ron Paul 2008.
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IMMIGRATION DEAL IS GOING VOR A NEW VOTE, BUSH ADDS BILLIONS IN PORK TO BROKER THE DEAL!!!
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Yup and the main suspects are the ones that use Israel as a proxy state and others that believe it is the only way to initiate the second coming of that wonderful Jew....Jesus. - Sane
Except. I gotta funny feeling this "JESUS" is going to come with all manner of lying signs and wonders including UFO's, holograms, psychotronic weapons, weather manipulation, etc. etc. Gonna be interesting.....
Oh and by the way, I think Freddy really likes "JEWS". He's just playing hard to get.
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Forever thwarted, maybe maybe not. A quick look at the last 3000 years of history will show that they get thwarted every time, but they are learning from their mistakes every time and coming back with better plans and better technology. But they will be thwarted again this time too simply by their own arrogance in that they aren't even really trying very hard to hide what they are doing anymore. They are overconfident, and are underestimating the people somewhat.
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You see all the Mideast activity? Think we are gonna have another CIA-Sadat-Rabin sacrificial rite or could this one have legs?
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jbird, you say you spent time in vietnam, is the stuff in this video true? If it is, we have some bigger problems in iraq than i thought:
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Freddy, the anti-semite hijackers of 9-11 truth. Sole purpose: to divide it so that the truth will never be revealed. Keep doing your country proud. sane | 05.16.07 - 10:35 pm | #
Sane… you are using the old well worn canard that criminal Jews have been relying on for centuries. Claiming that justice seekers who have identified Jews as criminals, are not interested in prosecuting criminality at all, but are venting hatred against Jews simply because they are Jews.
There are Jews and then there are Jews, good or Sephardic Jews number around seven percent of the total, the remainder are The Ashkenazi a tribe from Kazakhstan who converted to Judah. The Zionazi, an extreme sect of the Ashkenazi then usurped the function of that religion, firstly by establishing themselves as Scribes and Pharisees and lording it over the rest, brutally repressing more moderate elements with pogrom and persecution. Eventually gassing all and any opposition in The Holocaust, then establishing the rogue Modern State of Israel.
Bad people surely but not bad Jews, since they are not Jews at all but are worshipers of Arion the Horse God, offspring of the incestuous and violent union between Poseidon and Demeter his beautiful sister. He had conceived a lust for her, and knowing that she would at times assume the shape of a beautiful mare to gallop upon the Earth, when he learnt she was in this form he changed himself into a stallion and raped her.
Jew history reveals the Scribes and Pharisees of Jesus day were themselves corrupt, who took umbrage at Jesus claim that they were plunderers who were using the mores and traditions of Judah for evil purposes. Claims that DNA evidence has linked the Jews of Jesus era to the modern Ashkenazi, only means that the Khazar infiltration of Judah has been going on a lot longer than the date of 740 AD, usually given as the time of the Khazar conversion. This writer suggests that the Jew residence in Babylon documented in The Bible was the first contact between Jew and Khazar, and it was during this era that enterprising Khazars recognized then took advantage of the vulnerability of Judah, to infiltration and control.
My purpose is to liberate the Jews from Khazar oppression. And in that respect more so resemble The Golem than any fictional character.
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Not aimed at you -- THEM.
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I do hope you realize that notwithstanding my arrogance, I do not take almost anything you say personally (every once in a while I slip). Also in my opinion the paper breaks the uinvisible ceiling of the debunkers saying to look at the official story as evidence. This paper shows that they are being forced to defend themselves with a "scientific" paper instead of the peer pressure. Once they enter the science, evidence, and logic field, game over, we win!!
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first they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then YOU win!
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Not a very intelligent comment to make. I was mostly agreeing with you but maybe I'd better go back and take a relook. You sound like a real ass wipe saying something like that to me // Makes me want to reply in kind to you: shit for brains.
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I too spent a tour in Vietnam, 16 months back in 1966-67 and I'm pretty sure I also heard that the Chinese were assisting North Vietnam in many ways. I'm not sure I'd call that bullshit, I'd call it fact. jbrid1138 | 06.14.07 - 7:03 pm | #
Eat shit craphead.
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LOL, freddy. You are dumbass, insane, gullible fucktard! LMAO Amuzed | 06.14.07 - 4:59 pm | #
KMA kiss my ass...
Jews Jews Jews the Jews did it, now they gotta suffer... cast your mind forward ... there's Jews being gassed at the WTC site... I decided to kill 'em with monoxide, forty bulldozers and a hundred Mack trucks have been waiting, their engines idling... Inside the chamber Jews are tethered in long lines there are a few spasmodic attempts at jocularity and a small amount of singing... These are the four thousand who failed to show up on 911. The exhaust from the deisel engines has been hosed into a header and I activate the mechanism that diverts the lethal fumes into the glass walled chamber... Outside in the snow those who want to, witness the death of the Jews.
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A follow up comment for Freddy Fat:
I too spent a tour in Vietnam, 16 months back in 1966-67 and I'm pretty sure I also heard that the Chinese were assisting North Vietnam in many ways. I'm not sure I'd call that bullshit, I'd call it fact.
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To Freddy Fat: I see you've been doing your homework. I agree with most everything you had to say there. I do think however that Bush saw the first strike while enroute to the Sarasota school house // that Secret Service limo was surely equipped with the latest in state of the art technology -- most likely linked with the Naudet Brothers video that captured the strike that was shown to the world the next day. Just my thoughts on the subject.
Like to repeat myself regarding an expert in CD -- Mr. Mark Lozieux, president of CDI, home based in Maryland, is on record (I know of two news articles, one published a couple of months after 9/11 1001k the other a couple of years later) saying he knew while watching the event unfold on TV that the towers were going to fall, claims to have known this in 'a nanosecond' after seeing the second plane strike, and knew in which order they would fall. As you'll remember the second tower struck, fell first. Amazing isn't it. An expert like that whose company has conducted over 7000 legal demolitions worldwide knew something that no one else knew (since something like this had never before happened in recorded history). The man goes on to say how he tried to get in touch with the Mayor, even mentions WTC-7, but to no avail since the lines were busy. Later that same Mayor indicated (there is a video of the same available) that someone (??) had called his office and told them the towers were coming down and that's why he was able to escape unharmed. Never has said who that someone (??) was. Kind of a scary thought isn't it, that this same company (CDI) was also involved in the OKC Fed Bldg clean up // they also helped do the same kind of work at the WTC. Did such a good job of cleaning up that they continued to remove WTC steel from the country as fast as they could regardless of how many 9/11 family members and other officials pleaded for them to stop until a saatisfactory investigation could be conducted. That steel, shipped to places like India and China, is 'safe' now in the form of soup cans and misc. trinkets.
Just some continuing thoughts of mind triggered by your Post. Thanks for sharing.
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automakers are perfectly capable of making 100 mpg autos that wouldnt be "yugo's" but they wont.
its the same type scenario as michael moore's movie "sicko" describes. higher insurance based on miles diven?! what if I run a car on hydrogen extracted from water, can I tell em "blow me!" ?
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The chinese were advisors for the NVA in Nam. chris jones | 06.14.07 - 6:17 pm | #
Bullshit.
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Iraq mosque Attacks Continue as Curfews Enforced : Paul Tait, Reuters. Thursday June 14 2007. …Three Sunni Muslim mosques were attacked and burned south of Baghdad on Thursday, Iraqi police said, in apparent reprisal attacks after suspected al Qaeda militants blew up the minarets of a revered Shi'ite shrine.
Iraqi’s Accuse U.S. Of Bombing al-Askari Shrine in Samarra,: Both Sunnis and Shia say bombing a plot to incite sectarian violence. SW PP June 13 2007. …the site has been heavily guarded by about 60 Federal Protection Service forces and 25 local Iraqi police and closed to the public since it was attacked last year in a bombing which many also believed to be the work of US forces. …The explosion took place this morning under two minarets in a very similar way to the Golden Dome bombing more than a year ago. …Just this week it was revealed that the US is arming its own cadre of Sunni insurgents in Iraq.
German surveillance stopped a team of "US security men" attempting to smuggle C4 plastic explosives past a checkpoint at Heiligendamm. PJW PP June 10 2007. C4 has been in the gruesome car bombings in Iraq. Asked about those and the dozens of civilian bodies that turn up daily, Iraqi Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani, laid responsibility for the deaths, including gruesome beheadings of civilians, at the feet of the unregulated force of one hundred and fifty thousand private security contractors. Fourteen thousand of whom are from Ahmad Chalabi’s Iraqi Free Forces, the remainder are from paramilitary forces with some of the worst human rights records in the world: South Africa, Colombia, Salvador, and Chile, and ex regular special forces from the United Kingdom, United States, Israel, Nepal, Fiji, and the Philippines. Beheadings, such as those seen in Iraq, are a hallmark of the Nepalese Gurkhas. waynemadsen.com.
Agriculture, writing, and the domestication of animals all took place in the Tigris Euphrates region called Iraq, the tribes that have been located there since past the time of the prophets to Adam, are the Sunni. The Shia are every one else, the Sunni have often been indisposed to handle the manual chores, so they have been bringing in workers from other places for centuries. These workers do not usually attend Sunni mosques which are most often built and maintained by a single extended family. Iraqi workers usually attend to their religious affairs in Mosques that are located in working class areas of the city, reflecting their status as workers and as the descendants of workers. At no time has war or conflict between the two sectors of society been permitted either under secular law or within the strictures of Islam, and all parties are aware that murder is met with speedy and deadly retaliation, according to the instruction in The Koran.
Murdoch and Co will have you believe an internecine struggle between Shia and Sunni sects within the Moslem infrastructure of Iraq, supported on the Shia side by Iran attempting to establish hegemony in the area, is at the heart of the problem. That is total BS.
A woman who escaped the North Tower four minutes before it disintegrated said cars were blowing up in the street, that interview only days after the event. Five and a half years on the story resurfaces in April ’07, only to be buried under Rosies fat ass, or by Ed who does not like paying taxes. For the record: Damage to hundreds of cars in Theodore Roosevelt Drive more than a kilometer from the WTC, was said to be caused by the metal in their engines responding to an electromagnetic pulse caused by the detonation of a thermonuclear device.
Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower, is an air to ground missile which impacted WTC 6 moments after the impact on the South Tower. Silverstein’s people admit he was warned not to go to the WTC on 911 and say he personally phoned a similar warning to his daughter. The Readers Digest ran a story during the WTC construction, stating explosives would be built into the buildings to facilitate their eventual demolition.
George W Bush is on the record stating he saw a plane crash into the WTC on television, while he was in the hallway of a Florida elementary school on the morning of 911, waiting for the cue that would televise his visit live across America. The scheduled telecast went ahead during which one of the Presidents staff told him that another plane had struck the WTC.
The problem with that is, the first strike was not broadcast live thus for him to have seen it, his own apparatus must have been streaming live footage of the event right into the Florida school building.
If and when it comes out that the Israelis stood by and watched as the terrorists took down the twin towers and the Pentagon, and as Americans begin to realize the enormity of the Israeli betrayal, and more details of the Israeli operation are revealed. The backlash will be a tidal wave of anger will place the Israeli lobby in the same position as the Arab-American community in the wake of 9/11. The same bullies who turned on their fellow Americans of Arab descent could just as easily turn on Jewish Americans, collectively condemning them as a "fifth column" in classic anti-Semitic style – and a grave injustice will be compounded.
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To SANE: Just a quick note to say that I appreciate the link you provided to that WTC destruction paper // of course in my opinion that feeble effort put forth by those signing off as authors should seriously consider a job with Popular Mechanics // their paper gives about as much indept research as a roll of used up toilet tissue, in my opinion. You're right, those drawing looked child-like, less than that even. What a joke!
It was obvious how they avoided mentioning Prof. Jones yet still disputed his findings. Time will tell (that 9/11 was in fact an inside job) in the meantime idiots such as these fools can go join with all the other official story huggers and feel a false and sinking sense of pride in like-minded stupidity. Just goes to show that you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig -- scientist -- Ha!!
And it doesn't take much smarts to realize that something quite so obvious (i.e., those WTC buildings resembling controlled demolitions, all three of them) that this applies: looking like a 'duck' in all so many ways is a pretty darn good indication that it is in fact a 'duck' no matter how many false intellectuals want us to believe it's a flying horse. It's bullshit, plain and simple, all of it. Not aimed at you -- THEM.
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The chinese were advisors for the NVA in Nam. They are professionals soldiers and motivated, though the military doesn't mention this, friends of mine in airborne units were forced to retreat when chinese were involved. The word they gave me, these guys were bad news. Back to mind control,these guys were sold out into it.
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Fucking Britney Spears was ranked 17 during the week of 9/11 and Dragonballz was 8, WOW!
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I've read many economic gloom and doom articles for a couple of years. From Information Clearinghouse to Truthout. (Mainstream I ignore.) Hasn't anyone figured out that FEAR is what all this crap is about. If this country goes to the toilet? The whole world is the sewer. Forget the Euro, Dollar, Peso, or any other currency. MONEY...that's what this article and the other bull**** articles are all about.
F*** the CFR! And, the Bilderbergs. You think 300 million Americans would put up with starving? Or demeaning themselves? I sure the hell, WOULDN'T!
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I've read many economic gloom and doom articles for a couple of years. From Information Clearinghouse to Truthout. (Mainstream I ignore.) Hasn't anyone figured out that FEAR is what all this crap is about. If this country goes to the toilet? The whole world is the sewer. Forget the Euro, Dollar, Peso, or any other currency. MONEY...that's what this article and the other bull**** articles are all about.
F*** the CFR! And, the Bilderbergs. You think 300 million Americans would put up with starving? Or demeaning themselves? I sure the hell, WOULDN'T!
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Those are pretty good, just goes to show that many a truth are said in jest
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Mideast Update:
Hamas just kicked the living shit out of Al-Qaeda (rumor is all neighboring states helped - Including Isreali covert ops). Condoleeza Rice offered to send in US peace keepers - all neighboring states told her to go fuck herself!! When are we going to get a real state department? Also - Ron Paul was just on Tucker and he confirmed that Israel would be a lot happier if US stopped messing around with their direct peace talks.
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Mainstream Media Spin on Hamas kicking the shit out of Al-Qaeda....
History...Hamas won the Palestinian Elections...US declined to accept the victory.
Fatah movement worked a deal with Cheney's Al-Qaeda and took over areas of Tripoli and Gaza. This was disclosed by Sy Hersh.
All neighboring countries realized Al-Qaeda being in the area sucked ass. They worked with Hamas to get rid of Al-Qaeda and their harboring group Fatah. This effectively dismantled the US Palestinian Authority that was never meant to provide a Palestinian State. Many Palestinians realized this and let Hamas know about the Al-Qaeda infiltration.
Now CNN/MSNBC/FOX is saying that Hamas is making peace difficult by killing Palestinians. WTF?????
Hamas won the Palestinian election, don't these fuckers read books???? Hamas is killing Al-Qaeda, you know the ones Bush blames for 9/11 and Cheney blames for Iraq.
Now Cheney is pissed that he has no more mercenaries in the area so he told Rice to get some "peacekeepers" in the area. Unanimously everyone in the area told Rice, no thanks.
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the Chinese sword rattling the media says ZIP about,
is a bigger issue than people might imagine.
they also dont mention all of our deepwater domestic ports
have all been handed over to the Chinese
on both coastlines.
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Everything's Different Now
http://50.lycos.com/091701a.html
The New World Order
and
The Ten Kings of Revelation 17
http://home.bluemarble.net/
~hear...ndtenkings.html
The New World Order (NWO)
An Overview
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/
The Unholy Alliance -
Christianity & The NWO
http://www.rense.com/general20/u...al20/
unholy.htm
The Unholy Alliance -
Christianity & The NWO
Part II
http://www.rense.com/general20/u...l20/
unholy2.htm
TIMELINE OF EVENTS THAT PRODUCED AND SHAPED THE NEW WORLD ORDER!
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/.../news/
n1566.cfm
U.S. Arming Sunni Insurgents in Iraq
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/
...10607Arming.htm
U.S. Arming Sunni Insurgents in Iraq
http://thetruthproject.us/2007/0...rgents-in-iraq/
U.S. To Arm Sunni Arab Groups
http://www.countercurrents.org/
z...zeese120607.htm
Latest Security Advisories
http://my.opera.com/vaz/links/
Speech by Venizelos Zannettos, Member of the Secretariat of AKEL, at the Conference “The Communists and Democratic forces for Human Rights and Democracy in Europe and the World-Actively against Anticommunism”.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=c...clnk&cd=6&
gl=us
World War 3 ....when will it be?
http://thestudentroom.co.uk/show...t=186198&
page=3
World War III-Predictions
http://www.realmofinfamy.com/for...ons-2895-
4.html
New World Order Definition
http://www.threeworldwars.com/ne...world-
order.htm
Nostrdamus Prophecies about WW III part I
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-B...X2e7eFMuO?
p=107
The Forbidden Knowledge:
A Revelation to Adam
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge...rense/
index.htm
"The Death Of America"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h?
v=5xi9urBuoMY
Zionist Elite Prepares to Desert America
http://www.vialls.com/cowards/by...rds/
byebye.html
Assault on the Second Amendment
http://www.jeremiahproject.com/
t...damendment.html
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CHRIS ATKINS
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What a load of bollox, Why do you not mention it was MI5 & 6 who were responsible for the London Bombings?
It was not four students at all, although you probably will find they were murdered b4 just in case they showed up to contest the BBC's Cover story on behalf of the Government.
Everyone knows it was the Secret Government who carried out 911, with bush being told to keep his mouth shut. And he plays along.
Your new film will be more Daily LIES Mail bullshit the same as you print everyday Repeatring the lies you are told to spew.
And that is exactly what we have, more bull shit dressed in a smigen of truth to get peoples interset.
Your time is running out, that is certain.
What size neck, do you have? just want to let the HANGMAN know, he will have all sizes available for LIE-REPEATERS.
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Amp'd Mobile - Lil' Bush "Hot Dog" Pilot
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YYeJEFa-xCA
Amp'd Mobile - Lil' Bush "Evolution" Episode
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wO5t1...related&
search=
Amp'd Mobile - Lil' Bush "Nuked" Episode
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eav6i...related&
search=
Amp'd Mobile - Lil' Bush "Hot Dog" Pilot
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YYeJE...related&
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HOwthe heck did he get THAT House??? I don'tknow!! You gotta wonder how he got the money toafford it!
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Watch the video I juat posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...r...ErukvYVPOI&
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Good video. have it in my favorites now to always remember why I am spreading the truth.
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>>Hudson has been speaking in interviews of a “break in the chain” of debt payments leading to a “long, slow economic crash,” with “asset deflation,” “mass defaults on mortgages,” and a “huge asset grab” by the rich who are able to protect their cash through money laundering and hedging with foreign currency bonds.
So many illusions and non-sequitors, so little time to fix them all...
It is extremely unlikely that the economy will go down in a deflationary spiral. Name a precedent. Even the Great Depression was inflationary through the revaluation of gold and government spending.
The idea of an economy collapsing because "there's not enough money" strikes me as being odd.
I'm not sure how one is supposed to protect one's money with "money laundering". The author, or anyone else who is interested, needs to have a little chat with me about how economies (including black markets) work. My guess is he is confusing offshoring with money laundering, but offshoring isn't necessarily any safer than leaving funds onshore--it depends on what they are invested in.
"The rich" don't do things as a "class"--they are individuals just like the poor. These kinds of generalities smack of marxist nonsense. Some rich will be wiped out in the next economic disaster. Some smart people will make fortunes. Ask me about this (atash at mutuallyassuredsurvival dot com).
Foreign currency bonds MIGHT be some protection--or not, since cascading defaults could wipe out foreign bonds as well as US. It also depends on which foreign currency--some currencies are managed better than others.
>>The first step would be for the Federal Reserve System to be abolished as a bank of issue and a transformation of the nation’s credit system into a genuine public utility by the federal government.
Is it really betterfor a government rather than a private bank to own seignorage? To put it another way, how does one tell the difference between an out-of-control corporation that owns the government, and a government that owns all the corporations?
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Strike Commander
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Str...trike_Commander
Telecommunications data retention
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dat.../
Data_retention
Intelligence Support Systems for Lawful Interception, Cybercrime Investigations and Intelligence Gathering Conference and Expo
http://www.telestrategies.com/ISS_MAY07/
Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums > Unexplained Mysteries > Ancient Mysteries & Alternative History
http://www.unexplained-
mysteries...showtopic=52138
The biggest con: Democrats & Republicans work together to destroy America, part 1 of 3
http://www.onlinejournal.com/
art...ticle_775.shtml
The Collapse of the New World Order
http://www.mega.nu/ampp/
grabbe_c...e_collapse.html
The Coming Break Up
Of America - Part 1
http://www.rense.com/general62/break.htm
The Coming Economic
Collapse
http://www.michaelmandeville.com...e2006/
index.htm
OUTSIDERS FINAL CHAPTER
http://fchap.com/index.cfm
The Illuminati Agenda
(Best Historical Overview Yet-
Transcript of 1967 Recording)
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/
...yet8jun02.shtml
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See that is just the ticket isn't it. We need this to protect us from terrorism, we need it to protect us from criminals, we need this to protect us from predators....Blah....Blah...Blah.... But the truth is the NWPO pumps up the numbers on all crime and fakes terror attacks to get the public to freely give up their liberty. it really pisses me off.
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Watch the video I juat posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...ErukvYVPOI&
NR=1
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Mideast Update:
Hamas just kicked the living shit out of Al-Qaeda (rumor is all neighboring states helped - Including Isreali covert ops).
Condoleeza Rice offered to send in US peace keepers - all neighboring states told her to go fuck herself!!
When are we going to get a real state department?
Also - Ron Paul was just on Tucker and he confirmed that Israel would be a lot happier if US stopped messing around with their direct peace talks.
sane |
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LOL, freddy. You are dumbass, insane, gullible fucktard!
LMAO
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Scientists Seek Patent For Synthetic Life
http://salvationrevelation.com/
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to fix this problem is simple.............
step 1: herd ALL our legislators into the Capitol building
step 2: lock the doors and windows
step 3: douse the building with flammable material
step 4: ignite
that should give the NEXT group that crawl out from under rocks food for thought if they do not listen to our collective voices.........if not........
repeat steps 1 thru 4..........see?..........very simple..they may be slow...but they'll eventually catch on or quit crawling out from under rocks.........problem solved..............
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How's it hangin, retards?
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What the fuck, lunatics, the fucking world is being run by fucking lunatics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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See that is just the ticket isn't it. We need this to protect us from terrorism, we need it to protect us from criminals, we need this to protect us from predators....Blah....Blah...Blah.... But the truth is the NWPO pumps up the numbers on all crime and fakes terror attacks to get the public to freely give up their liberty. it really pisses me off.
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I hate the Kike sonsa bitches 'cause they bid their workmates a fine and friendly farewell after work Sept 10, then had the next day off, aware the towers were to be attacked then watched their immolation live on TV.
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What I find very interesting is that it doesn't matter what message board you go onto, bigots seem to take over and spout the usual canards and racial epithets. I can't imagine harboring that much hate in my mind or body. What does it feel like? Have they ever known a time when they didn't feel that way? What made them so mean? Marci | 06.05.07 - 6:00 pm | #
It was the images of workers tumbling thru the air en route to the pavement from the ninety second floor that did it for me...
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How to Fight the New World Order
http://www.illuminati-news.com/0...ht-the-
nwo.html
The Illuminati News Mission Statement
http://www.illuminati-news.com/nwo.htm
New World Order
But Venezuela's "revolution" faces many obstacles.
http://www.inthesetimes.com/issu.../
feature3.shtml
LINKS TO ALL SORTS OF STRANGE PLACES
http://www.rrcd.com/links.html
Moqtada al-Sadr: The man America has in its sights
http://news.independent.co.uk/
wo...icle2609310.ece
New World Order (conspiracy)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New...er_(conspiracy)
NWO Probably delayed
beyond the year 2010
http://home.iae.nl/users/lightne.../
nwodelayed.htm
European Union adopts Big Brother directive
http://www.pww.org/article/view/...iew/8337/1/302/
I think it would take a National Disaster
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/fo.../
pg2#pid3217465
Blair's Protection of Elite Paedophile Rings Spells the End For His Career
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/
...protection.html
A Bavarian prophet may have foreseen today's events in Kosovo that, he says, may lead to a third world war.
http://paranormal.about.com/libr...ly/
aa051799.htm
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TIRED - http://www.ispai.ie/DR%20as%20pu...%2013-04-
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"Because retention of data has proved to be such a necessary and effective investigative tool for law enforcement in several Member States, and in particular concerning serious matters such as organised crime and terrorism, it is necessary to ensure that retained data are made available to law enforcement authorities for a certain period, subject to the conditions provided for in this Directive."
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AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
What the fuck, lunatics, the fucking world is being run by fucking lunatics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DIRECTIVE 2006/24/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL
of 15 March 2006
on the retention of data generated or processed in connection with the provision of publicly
available electronic communications services or of public communications networks and amending
Directive 2002/58/EC
http://www.ispai.ie/DR%20as%20pu...%2013-04-
06.pdf
The Luciferian - Bavarian - Alien Collaboration in Prophecy
Pt2
http://
www.theforbiddenknowledge...laboration2.htm
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Timeless Wisdom from the Inventors of America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...ErukvYVPOI&
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http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/n...tag/
nwo+brother
Data Retention Directive receives rubber stamp
http://www.theregister.co.uk/200...ctive_ratified/
Data retention laws do not cover Google searches
http://www.theregister.co.uk/200...data_retention/
Endgame of the New World Order, Part II: The Proof in the Plunge
http://www.divinecosmos.com/inde...d=297&
Itemid=70
Et Tu EU? Europe Seeks Data on Web Users
http://dotcommonsense.blog-
city....n_web_users.htm
Bye Bye Miss American Pie
http://euroyankii.blogspot.com/
Summary - Most Related Significant Events of the 20th Century and Conclusions
http://www.mensch.net/
ovaloffice...20thsummary.htm
NOSTRADAMUS & WORLD WAR III....Is it started!
http://www.fropper.com/forum/mes...5628&
board_id=5
Part II Who Infiltrated America? Jesuits? Zionists? Illuminati? NWO?
http://video.google.com/
videopla...809713202851835
Dow Drops Tranny
http://www.depression2.tv/nwo/ar...ves/
000032.html
The True Unemployment Rate - 10.9%
http://www.depression2.tv/nwo/ar...ves/
000023.html
WAR OF THE WORDS
http://digtheheavy.wordpress.com...s.com/tag/guns/
Fighting terrorism or surrendering sovereignty?
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=c...clnk&cd=9&
gl=us
Lieberman: attack Iran, Bush arms Sunni's, Lebanon, Palestinian civil war, then the missile shield!
http://anaverageamericanpatriot....rms-
sunnis.html
DIRECTIVE 2006/24/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL
of 15 March 2006
on the retention of data generated or processed in connection with the provision of publicly
available electronic communications services or of public communications networks and amending
Directive 2002/58/EC
http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/
lex...3en00540063.pdf
Capitalism, the Great War, the Great Slump and the New
World Order (1873 – 1945)
http://www.ata.boun.edu.tr/
Depar...War_Lecture.pdf
Architects of Globalism: Building a New World Order during World War II. By Patrick J. Hearden. Fayetteville: University of Arkansas Press, 2002. xv + 418 pp. Notes, index, and bibliography of primary sources, published papers, and diaries. Cloth, $39.95. ISBN: 1-557-28730-9.
http://www.hbs.edu/bhr/archives/.../79/
preagan.pdf
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Ed's assertion that he is beyond US law in NH is false, and trailblazing a revolt against the tax system from down on the farm says loser to me. From day one Ed’s attitude has been belligerent and he was the first to say guns and Ruby Ridge. Millions of workers pay income tax, the head of Inland Revenue says the US can raise revenue as it sees fit, so it seems there is a case against Ed.
This is WTC 6…
Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower, is an air to ground missile which impacted WTC 6 moments later. Most visible at this link, the pieces of wreckage at 7 seconds and 19 seconds in The Smoking White Plane video which Bollyn’s site says could be the missile, should not be confused with the missile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...related&
search=
…as the second jet rammed its target, ‘…That was an explosion,’ says Stephen McArdle a tax consultant, from inside the Marriot Hotel, he was taping as part of an FBI sting operation. …Then comes a longer and much louder explosion. Greg Smith 2002. The second explosion is in fact the detonation of the missile’s warhead…
From Jack White’s 911 Studies: The South Tower was hit at 9:03, at 9:04 CNN televised a significant explosion between the North Tower and Building 7 the location of WTC 6, the 8-Story Customs House… Photo: a pyroclastic cloud in an inner city environment, caption… while onlookers were distracted by the events at skyscraper level, moments after the second plane hit the South Tower, WTC 6 was torn apart by a massive explosion. The crater in the building was eight stories deep, an immense hole blasted into the sub basements… all eight stories missing… no wreckage… blown away…
Vaporized by the thermonuclear warhead on the missile, it seems.
This is the Jew response: “…Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower...” Aw crap. 1984 | 06.13.07 - 10:31 pm | #
George W Bush can alone of humanity of his own volition put to right matters that have gone awry since the Ashkenazi Zionist alliance hereinafter the Zionazi’s, took over American politics sometime before the American Civil War. Everyone else needs supporters George W does not, he alone of humanity can publicly demand answers, and publicly keep the world abreast of the replies he gets, everybody else can try but no one needs to take any notice of them, not so with George.
All you need to do George is to announce to the American public, thence to the world at large that you are unsatisfied with the official story of what happened on 911. The Odigo material presented by Christopher Bollyn implicating thousands of holders of joint American Israeli citizenship as both staying away from the WTC on 911 and as being investors in schemes centered at the Toronto and Frankfurt stock exchanges that made hundreds of millions in profits, must make up the centerpiece of the investigation.
War with Israel, must be the inevitable result. My model insists that all that stayed away on 911 warned by Odigo, as well as all Toronto and Frankfurt investors will have to face trial in a court of capital jurisdiction. Given that many members of the same family will have likely invested means that’s how many will have to die. If fourteen members of one family invested this model insists that all must die, members of that family born since 911 will sit on the juries that will convict and send to execution those convicted. This fulfils Jesus’ prophesy that, “…Children will rise up against their parents and will put them to death.”
You are a likeable guy George W, take this opportunity to be the greatest president ever.
Read about Mossad & Bollyn… Militarized police tazered him in the driveway of his home after he had called the police, they had been driving in an intimidating manner by his home, he was the guy who reported the Israeli connection to 911 via Odigo and four thousand Jews working at the WTC who got advance warning and didn’t show up, and re Jew investment in put options… The mainstream don’t touch it and it only made it onto PP front page for a few hours Friday… Ed has front page exposure on PP again today.
What I find very interesting is that it doesn't matter what message board you go onto, bigots seem to take over and spout the usual canards and racial epithets. I can't imagine harboring that much hate in my mind or body. What does it feel like? Have they ever known a time when they didn't feel that way? What made them so mean? Marci | 06.05.07 - 6:00 pm | #
It was the images of workers tumbling thru the air en route to the pavement from the ninety second floor that did it for me... So I got onto the internet and examined the evidence and found it was the Jews who did it... Wage war against Israel.
I hate the Kike sonsa bitches 'cause they bid their workmates a fine and friendly farewell after work Sept 10, then had the next day off, aware the towers were to be attacked then watched their immolation live on TV.
That's a good enough reason to hate someone.
Claim: Silverstein got a phone call telling him not to show up to work and he called his daughter up and she never showed up either. Prison Planet.
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This site is becoming ever more lame by the day. Just drop the pretense of being an independent website please and just admit to being a gatekeeper website for 9/11 Truth sheeple please. And as for this Brown siege thing: c'mon, not all of us are as naive about your true motives Jarhead.
cr_maverick | 06.14.07 - 4:31 pm | #
Well spoken and rarely mentioned, please make sure to tell us your theories so that this site does not become one sided and filled with posters that just post random criticism with no content.
Bravo!
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This site is becoming ever more lame by the day. Just drop the pretense of being an independent website please and just admit to being a gatekeeper website for 9/11 Truth sheeple please. And as for this Brown siege thing: c'mon, not all of us are as naive about your true motives Jarhead.
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Why I want Ron Paul to be our next president
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US could access EU data retention information
http://www.rinf.com/columnists/n...ion-
information
A war on IRAQ is part of NWO planification :
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/fo.../thread5656/
pg1
Final Warning: Economic Collapse and the Coming World Government (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/Final-Warn...t/dp/
0921714246
America arms Sunnis against al-Qa'eda
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...12/
niraq612.xml
American arms
New strategy? Providing arms to the enemy? Will that win the war?
http://www.knoxviews.com/taxonom...xonomy/term/
965
America's strategy in Iraq: Arm the Sunnis
http://www.chron.com/disp/story....ld/
4878114.html
Truth (loads of good links)
http://www.bbsradio.com/articles...les/
index.shtml
"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb", "The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
http://www.metafilter.com/10056/
Communism & NWO: Wall Street's Utopian Hoax
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/F...x-
communism.htm
Communist Goals (1963)
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communis...sm/
comgoals.htm
Congress may consider mandatory ISP snooping
http://news.com.com/Congress+may..._3-
6066608.html
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
DESTROY IRAQ - AND SO THEY DID
http://www.pushhamburger.com/nission.htm
Bomb Iran: For Israel and America!
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...nd-
america.html
US arming both sides in a future civil war
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...ture-
civil.html
The neo-cons’ route to disaster
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/
...15_archive.html
The 'Surge' Is A Red Herring
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/...ed-
herring.html
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Patriot Act II, aka Security Enhancement Act 2003
by ALEX JONES (INFOWARS.COM)
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/...&
contentid=1692
Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003
http://foi.missouri.edu/domsecen...eact/
index.html
Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Dom...ent_Act_of_2003
Interested Persons Memo: Section-by-Section Analysis of Justice Department draft "Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003," also known as "PATRIOT Act II"
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/
gen...eg20030214.html
Brief Analysis - Domestic
Security Enhancement Act 2003
Also Known As USA Patriot Act II
http://www.rense.com/general59/brief.htm
Patriot Act II (draft)
http://www.eff.org/Censorship/
Te...riot2draft.html
Subtitle B: Enhancement of Law Enforcement Investigative Tools
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/...H/
PA2draft.html
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Raising the Stakes - End US Control of Israel NOW!
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4305
Anti-occupation rally in Washington, D.C., June 10, 2007. Photo by Thomas J. Dooley.
Kevin Martin concluded his email by invoking Martin Luther King Jr.’s dictum that “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” More is at stake than the Palestinian people suffering under foreign military occupation and the Israeli people’s long-term security. As long as the Israeli government can get away with its violations of universally recognized norms regarding international law, human rights and non-proliferation, it will be difficult to enforce these norms anywhere.
Israel will not end its occupation, colonization, and repression in the Palestinian territories as long as the Israeli government continues to receive unconditional military, financial and diplomatic support from the Bush administration. The Bush administration will not end its military, financial, and diplomatic support for the Israeli government as long as the Democratic-controlled Congress continues to support the Bush administration’s policies toward the conflict. And the Democrats will not end their support for the Bush administration’s policies until the peace movement refuses to support any candidate who does.
Unfortunately, the political action committees affiliated with Peace Action, MoveOn, Act for Change, Council for a Livable World, and other otherwise progressive organizations have yet to make that commitment. Endorsing demonstrations and passing policy statements opposing the occupation are good and important. But lawmakers will ignore such statements and demonstrations until they recognize that there will be political consequences for their pro-occupation votes and public statements.
The perceived clout of the pro-occupation lobby on Capitol Hill may be less a result of the actual strength of the American Israel Public Action Committee and other right-wing groups as it is the relative weakness of the anti-occupation lobby. Similarly, the perceived influence of pro-occupation contributors and voters in election campaigns is less a reflection of their overall support as it is the unwillingness of progressive contributors and voters to make opposition to U.S. support for the Israeli occupation a decisive factor in determining whether to contribute to a campaign or to vote for a candidate.
Fortunately, this is beginning to change, as the U.S. Campaign against the Israeli Occupation and other groups have emerged in recent years to put pressure on members of Congress and multi-issue peace and human rights groups are beginning to become bolder in addressing this issue as well.
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Of course this is just contractors keeping the violence between both Muslim groups, so that the Bankers can keep making money off of this illegal and unjust war. Iraq needs to wake up and kick our government out of THEIR country.
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Ron Paul ONLY house member to vote against new GUN LAW. Dr. No strikes!
"a flagrantly unconstitutional expansion of restriction on the exercise of the right to bear arms." -ron paul. scroll to the second to last paragraph to see Ron Paul sticking to his constitutional guns yet again. RON PAUL 2008!
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By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer
Thu Jun 14, 1:51 AM ET
WASHINGTON - Violence in
Iraq, as measured by casualties among troops and civilians, has edged higher despite the U.S.-led security push in Baghdad, the
Pentagon told Congress on Wednesday.
In its required quarterly report on security, political and economic developments in Iraq, covering the February-May period, the Pentagon also raised questions about Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's ability to fulfill a pledge made in January to prohibit political interference in security operations and to allow no safe havens for sectarian militias.
Overall, however, the report said it was too soon to judge whether the security crackdown was working.
The security operation was launched Feb. 14 and is still unfolding as the last of an additional 28,000 or so U.S. forces are getting into position in and around the Iraqi capital. The Pentagon is required by Congress to provide its initial assessment of the operation in July, and Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, has said he will report in September.
Wednesday's broader report, the eighth in a series, said that while violence fell in the capital and in Anbar province west of Baghdad during the February-May period, it increased in other areas, particularly in the outlying areas of Baghdad province and in Diyala province northeast of Baghdad and in the northern province of Nineva.
The report described Iraq's violence as mainly a result of illegally armed groups engaging in a "cycle of sectarian and politically motivated violence, using tactics that include indiscriminate bombing, murder, executions and indirect fire (rocket and mortar attacks) to intimidate and to provide sectarian conflict."
Unlike the previous such report to Congress, submitted in March, the Pentagon made no reference to the debate over whether Iraq is in a civil war. In March it said "some elements of the situation in Iraq are properly descriptive of a `civil war.'"
It noted that al-Maliki had pledged in January, when President Bush announced his commitment to send more U.S. troops to Baghdad, that there would be no political interference in the security crackdown and no sectarian favoritism.
"To date, operations in Baghdad indicate that Iraqi government delivery on these commitments has been uneven," the report said. "For example, there have been reports of political involvement by some leaders in tactical and operational decisions that bypass the standard chain of (military) command."
The report offered a less-than-optimistic outlook for political reconciliation among the rival sectarian groups in Iraq. It said Shiite fear of a Sunni return to power and splits within the Shiite community "will continue to impede formation of a 'Shiite consensus' and complicate reconciliation with the Sunnis."
On the positive side, the report noted that Sunni Arab tribal leaders in Anbar province, where there is no sizable Shiite population, have been joining with U.S. and Iraqi government forces to fight al-Qaida forces.
"With the right mechanisms, these Sunni leaders could pursue reconciliation with the government of Iraq," the report said, adding that the Sunnis currently are limited in their political effectiveness by a lack of unity.
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US to China: we will win the cyberwars
The US is bolstering its network defences following a report which claims that China has established "information warfare units"China is making a bid to become the dominant player in cyberspace, forcing the United States to increase its capabilities in the area of network attack, the US military has said. A senior US Air Force commander charged with heading up a new 'cyber command' unit told reporters: "They're the only nation that has been quite that blatant about saying, 'We're looking to do that.'"
"We have peer competitors right now in terms of doing computer network attack ... and I believe we're going to be able to ratchet up our capability, " Commander Lieutenant-General Robert Elder of the 8th Air Force, said. "We're going to go way ahead." General Elder leads a team at an air force base in Louisiana which focuses on the possibility of a network-based attack, addressing everything from infrastructure security to surveillance and communications.
The Barksdale Air Force Base is already home to to 25,000 military personnel working on issues relating to electronic defence and electronic warfare. General Elder made his remarks a month after the US Defence Department's annual report on China's military capabilities claimed that the country had established "information warfare units" to develop viruses, and saw "computer network operations" (CNO) as "critical to achieving electro-magnetic dominance early in a conflict." The People's Liberation Army had already established units to develop "tactics and measures to protect friendly computer systems and networks" and in 2005 "began to incorporate offensive CNO into its exercises, primarily in first strikes against enemy networks," the report said. The Chinese Foreign Ministry rejected the report as "brutal interference" in China's internal affairs, and insisted that Beijing's military preparations are purely defensive. General Elder said that the majority of the China's alleged cyber-operations were aimed at stealing trade secrets to save time on high-tech developments.
A number of potential enemies were scanning US networks for defence and trade secrets, he told Reuters. He said that the culprits included "everyone but North Korea. We've concluded that there must be only one laptop in all of North Korea – and that guy's not allowed to scan." Last month Estonia accused Russia of launching a wave of attacks against its computer systems as part of a campaign of unofficial sanctions. NATO experts were called to investigate after Estonia said that it had traced the attacks, which paralysed Government websites and telephone networks, to computers used by Russian authorities.
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Can't stop here, I have to make a confession. And Im going to attempt to get to my point as quickly as possible.
There exists segments of this society that are so wrapped up in their own little lives they could give a twit how many innocents die, as long as they are OK. After I my tour in Vietnam for a short while I worked at a shipyard, some guys were talking it up, the jist of what they said was, they hope the war goes on forever, they were making so much overtime, extra money.
My confession, this type of person nausiates me, disqusts me, and causes a violent anger to swell up in me I truly beleive I could do serious damage to someone like that.
Now, I could be nieve, but I'm not, I was once long ago. I know there are all kinds of people, the lay of the land and all that shet.
Greed does not discriminate, Bush and his gang are on the top of the mountain, but there are plenty around who will not give a twit about America or other human beings untill their pockets are empty. These rat bastards still piss me off, and its been over 30 years. There are many who will not give one twit untill they are affected. Just how low a level can a human being sink to.
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I remember the horror stories my parents told me of the Ukraine and if it is anything close to that we are fucked. When hungry people have nothing to lose that is when the masses will find out how stupid they are. Then the war will be the War on Bravery rather than the war on terror. Ah but will it be in time? All around me today everyone has a false security it could not happen again even if they see it with their own eyes like 911 or todays stock market crash.
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I can not help thinking about the children, nor the elderly. I do remember during the recession old folks freezing to death becasue they could not afford heating oil. Ya know, it was either starve or freeze.
What does it take to piss off the general public, exactly what does it take to open their eyes. The lies and deception about WMD's didn't budge em,Counting the dead innocents since the invasion does not seem to have an effect on em, the 4 million innocents in Nam slaughtered sure did not, but guess what, the recesion did. It makes me wonder, no it pisses me off. Well the bubble is gonna break my freinds, being a patriot is not just pushing out your chest draped in flags and bravado. Thats the easy way out, the good old gang shit, being a patriot is getting involved in this land, this country, and defending our rights.
Maby, just maby, the silent majority will get curious about our constitution and bill of rights, maby they will understand weve been screwed.
Blood for money, human sacrifice. Well now its their money, maby they will open up their eyes.
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Chris, no offense, but this is not going to be a recession. Over $100 Trillion in commitments with China threatening us if we do not by their poisoned food. This is a full fledged super depression bankruptcy with the US being sold off piece by piece until we are all chinese slave laborers. And there will be no one with a military except for Blackwater.
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Good one,** you guys get to the point quick, I must be getting old and rambling on too much.
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US uses Israel as its proxy to threaten Syria By Jean Shaoul 7 October 2004
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Israel’s assassination of Izz el-Deen al-Sheikh Khalil, a senior Hamas leader in the Syrian capital of Damascus, is a criminal act. It provides damning confirmation that if any country merits the title of a “rogue state” that operates like some gangster mob across international borders, it is Israel. More importantly, when not a single American, European or even an Arab government spokesperson utters a word of condemnation then there can be only one explanation. Israel not only has the full backing of the United States, but it is in fact acting as Washington’s proxy in the region. The Bush administration is using Israel as its subcontractor to threaten Syria and Iran, carry out military strikes and reorganise the region in its interests. This is why—shielded by its backers in the White House—Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s Likud government is able to operate with impunity. And what is more, world leaders know it.
Last October, Israel bombed Syria, supposedly in retaliation for a suicide bombing in Haifa. In October 2002, Israel threatened an attack on Lebanon—and by implication Syria—if it went ahead with plans to divert and increase its abstractions from the Wazzani and Hasbani rivers, the headwaters of the Jordan river. On that occasion, the US rushed in to stop the dispute from escalating. This time, however, Washington immediately signalled its approval for Sharon to step up hostilities against Syria, with State Department official Richard Boucher saying that terrorist groups such as Hamas had to be put out of business. These threats against Syria are part of a broader agenda outlined in a policy document published in 1996 by the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies for the incoming Likud government of Binyamin Netanyahu in Israel, conceived to be in both Israel and America’s interests. The document was authored by prominent neo-conservatives Douglas Feith, a member of the Bush administration, and Richard Perle, a former member of the Bush administration, until he was forced to resign. It called for a “clean break” with the “land for peace” strategy of the previous Labour government, “weakening, containing and even rolling back Syria,” a more aggressive stance towards Israel’s Arab neighbours, including “removing Saddam Hussein from power” and a “redrawing of the map of the Middle East that would threaten Syria’s territorial integrity.” The neo-conservatives used the September 11 attacks on New York to push ahead with their plans. The “Project for a New American Century” wrote an open letter to Bush targeting Iraq, Syria and Iran as sponsors of terrorism. The group called on the US president to demand that Syria and Iran immediately cease all assistance to the Hezbollah militia, urging that “Should Iran and Syria refuse to comply, the administration should consider appropriate measures of retaliation.” The Bush administration has repeatedly issued bellicose threats against Syria, warning this small and impoverished country on whose borders lie the US-occupied Iraq and the warmongering US ally, Israel, that if it does not bow to US demands that it will face the same fate as Iraq. It has branded Syria a “rogue state.” In April 2002, contingency plans for the US to invade Syria that were drawn up in response to a demand from Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld were leaked. Since then the US, without producing a shred of evidence, has accused Syria of providing aid to Iraq in the run up to the war, developing and testing chemical weapons, and developing “an offensive biological weapons capability.” It has demanded that Damascus end its support for anti-Israel groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah, stop anti-US militants crossing the Syria’s 600 kilometre-long and mainly desert border with Iraq, stop providing a safe haven for Iraqis fleeing the US, and withdraw its troops from Lebanon.
The “global war against terrorism” has its own inexorable logic. Having plunged into war in the vain hope of resolving the deepening economic crisis at home by securing Iraq’s oil resources and deflecting the mounting discontent over deepening poverty and social inequality, the Bush administration has no alternative but to carry out further crimes. It must press ahead with other military adventures in a desperate attempt to maintain itself in office. That is why it has decided to encourage Sharon to provoke hostilities and possibly even war with either Syria or Iran.
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Israel is subcontractor for US takeover of Middle East [still a criminal offense like a Halliburton subcontractor].
Israel is a proxy state like Turkey and many South Ameircan, Central American, and Southeast Asian states [means they need to kick out the warmoingers of face more US foreign policy abuse].
Or all j's want to conquer the world rather than a clever group of super elites from all races, sexual orientation, location, cultures, skin color, etc. [please try to defend this one]
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"Like the communists, the terrorists and radicals who have attacked our nation are followers of a murderous ideology that despises freedom, crushes all dissent, has expansionist ambitions and pursues totalitarian aims," he said at the ceremony....
there goes "el busho" talking about himself again.
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Very interesting observation you made here; the man (gwb) speaks truth. Now think of what it is he is actually saying -- Who are the true terrorist he makes reference to, the ones that attacked our country and wishes to attact our freedoms?
He speaks as if they are foreign. The point is he is talking about a group that he knows very well, a group me might even belong to //
He's the one doing the talking and saying those things about the evil terrorist -- but he's telling the truth -- The only thing is he's speaking as if addressing his remarks towards a foreign enemy.
***against all enemies, foreign and domestic***
Let none of us think that just because we have an enemy HE/SHE need be foreign // The enemy could very well be right here under our own nose (as in the reference above to 'domestic').
Just stop and THINK who it is that has been slowing changing our Rights and in doing so has been seeking to alter and affect our individual Freedoms. All under the guise of national security. Has it been al Qaida doing that to us? Or has it been something/someone a tad bit more 'domestic"?
I believe I know the answer to my own question --But who do you think is the real terrorist? Who?
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and I say again, they have seized the Browns other property which is probably worth more than what is claimed owed in taxes, they cut the power, they cut the phones, they tell the Browns "we ARE coming for you" this is terrorism of American Citizens plain and simple. what, theft of the other property doesnt count? howbout putting Elaine out of business with this bullshit? does this count?
that they cannot get a fair trial regarding ALL factors of what has happened and is happening doesnt seem to count either, lets hope they live long enough to tell the complete story and the media has the balls to report ALL OF IT.
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Stephen Zunes | August 21, 2006
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There is increasing evidence that Israel instigated a disastrous war on Lebanon largely at the behest of the United States. The Bush administration was set on crippling Hezbollah, the radical Shiite political movement that maintains a sizable block of seats in the Lebanese parliament. Taking advantage of the country's democratic opening after the forced departure of Syrian troops last year, Hezbollah defied U.S. efforts to democratize the region on American terms. The populist party's unwillingness to disarm its militia as required by UN resolution—and the inability of the pro-Western Lebanese government to force them to do so—led the Bush administration to push Israel to take military action. In his May 23 summit with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, President George W. Bush offered full U.S. support for Israel to attack Lebanon as soon as possible. Seymour Hersh, in the August 21 New Yorker, quotes a Pentagon consultant on the Bush administration's longstanding desire to strike “a preemptive blow against Hezbollah.” The consultant added, “It was our intent to have Hezbollah diminished, and now we have someone else doing it.” Israel was a willing partner. Although numerous Israeli press reports indicate that some Israeli officials, including top military officials, are furious at Bush for pushing Olmert into war, the Israeli government had been planning the attack since 2004. According to a July 21 article in the San Francisco Chronicle, Israel had briefed U.S. officials with details of the plans, including PowerPoint presentations, in what the newspaper described as “revealing detail.” Political science professor Gerald Steinberg of Bar-Ilan University told the Chronicle that “[O]f all of Israel's wars since 1948, this was the one for which Israel was most prepared. In a sense, the preparation began in May 2000, immediately after the Israeli withdrawal …” Despite these preparations, the Bush administration and congressional leaders of both parties tried to present the devastating attacks, which took as many as 800 civilian lives, as a spontaneous reaction to Hezbollah's provocative July 12 attack on an Israeli border post and its seizure of two soldiers. Some reports have indicated that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was less sanguine than Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, or President Bush about the proposed Israeli military offensive. Rumsfeld apparently believed that Israel should focus less on bombing and more on ground operations, despite the dramatically higher Israeli casualties that would result. Still, Hersh quotes a former senior intelligence official as saying that Rumsfeld was “delighted that Israel is our stalking horse.” The recent announcement of a shaky ceasefire may represent only a minor speed bump in U.S. plans. After all, the attack on Hezbollah was only the first stage of what the Bush administration apparently hopes will be a joint redrawing of the Middle East map.
On to Iran and Syria?
On July 30, the Jerusalem Post reported that President Bush pushed Israel to expand the war beyond Lebanon and attack Syria. Israeli officials apparently found the idea “nuts.” This idea was not exactly secret. In support of the Israeli offensive, the office of the White House Press Secretary released a list of talking points that included reference to a Los Angeles Times op-ed by Max Boot, senior fellow for national security studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. The article, “It's Time to Let the Israelis Take Off the Gloves,” urges an Israeli attack against Syria. “Israel needs to hit the Assad regime. Hard,” argues Boot. “If it does, it will be doing Washington's dirty work.” Iran, too, was in the administration's sights. T he Israeli attack on Lebanon, according to Seymour Hersh, was to “serve as a prelude to a potential American preemptive attack to destroy Iran's nuclear installations.” But first, the Bush administration needed to get rid of Hezbollah's capacity to retaliate against Israel in the event of a U.S. strike on Iran, which apparently prompted Hezbollah's buildup of Iranian-supplied missiles in the first place. Starting this spring, according to Hersh, the White House ordered top planners from the U.S. air force to consult with their Israeli counterparts on a war plan against Iran that incorporated an Israeli pre-emptive strike against Hezbollah. Lieutenant General Dan Halutz, the chief of staff of the Israeli military and principal architect of the war on Lebanon, worked with U.S. officials on contingency planning for an air war with Iran. The Bush administration's larger goal apparently has been to form an alliance of pro-Western Sunni Arab dictatorships—primarily Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan—against a growing Shiite militancy exemplified by Hezbollah and Iran and, to a lesser extent, post-Saddam Iraq. Though these Sunni regimes initially spoke out against Hezbollah's provocative capture of the two Israeli soldiers that prompted the Israeli attacks, popular opposition within these countries to the ferocity of the Israeli assault led them to rally solidly against the U.S.-backed war on Lebanon.
In Israel's Interest?
In the years prior to Israel's July 12 bombing of Lebanese cities, Hezbollah had become less and less of a threat. It had not killed any Israeli civilians for more than a decade (with the exception of one accidental fatality in 2003 caused by an anti-aircraft missile fired at an Israeli plane that violated Lebanese airspace). Investigations by the Congressional Research Service, the State Department, and independent think tanks failed to identify any major act of terrorism by Hezbollah for over a dozen years. Prior to the attack, Hezbollah's militia had dwindled to about 1000 men under arms—this number tripled after July 12 when reserves were called up—and a national dialogue was going on between Hezbollah and the government of pro-Western prime minister Fuad Siniora regarding disarmament. The majority of Lebanese opposed Hezbollah, both its reactionary fundamentalist social agenda as well as its insistence on maintaining an armed presence independent of the country's elected government. Thanks to the U.S.-backed Israeli attacks on Lebanon's civilian infrastructure, however, support for Hezbollah, according to polls, has grown to more than 80%, even within the Sunni Muslim and Christian communities. Even Richard Armitage, a leading hawk and deputy secretary of state under President Bush during his first term, noted that “[T]he only thing that the bombing has achieved so far is to unite the population against the Israelis.” Despite U.S. encouragement that Israel continue the war, Israel's right-wing prime minister has come under increasing criticism at home, with polls from the Haaretz newspaper indicating that only 39% of Israelis would support the planned expansion of the ground offensive. Meretz Party Knesset member Ran Cohen, writing in the Jerusalem Post, called earlier moves to expand the ground offensive “a wretched decision.” Yariv Oppenheimer, general director of Peace Now, which had earlier muted its criticism of the attacks on Lebanon, noted that “[T]he war has spiraled out of control and the government is ignoring the political options available.” Not only have a growing number of Israelis acknowledged that the war has been a disaster for Israel, there is growing recognition of U.S. responsibility for getting them into that mess. A July 23 article in Haaretz about an anti-war demonstration in Tel Aviv noted that “this was a distinctly anti-American protest” that included “chants of ‘We will not die and kill in the service of the United States,' and slogans condemning President George W. Bush.” Members of Congress who have unconditionally backed Israel's attacks on Lebanon have responded to constituent outrage by claiming they were simply defending Israel's legitimate interests. In supporting the Bush administration, however, they have defended policies that cynically use Israel to advance the administration's militarist agenda.
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Who's Anti-Semitic?
One of the more unsettling aspects of the broad support in Washington for the use of Israel as U.S. proxy in the Middle East is how closely it corresponds to historic anti-Semitism. In past centuries, the ruling elite of European countries would, in return for granting limited religious and cultural autonomy, established certain individuals in the Jewish community as the visible agents of the oppressive social order, such as tax collectors and moneylenders. When the population threatened to rise up against the ruling elite, the rulers could then blame the Jews, channeling the wrath of an exploited people against convenient scapegoats. The resulting pogroms and waves of repression took place throughout the Jewish Diaspora. Zionists hoped to break this cycle by creating a Jewish nation-state where Jews would no longer be dependent on the ruling elite of a given country. The tragic irony is that, by using Israel to wage proxy war to promote U.S. hegemony in the region, this cycle is being perpetuated on a global scale. This latest orgy of American-inspired Israeli violence has led to a dangerous upsurge in anti-Semitism in the Middle East and throughout the world. In the United States, many critics of U.S. policy are blaming “the Zionist lobby” for U.S. support for Israel's attacks on Lebanon rather than the Bush administration and its bipartisan congressional allies who encouraged Israel to wage war on Lebanon in the first place. Unfortunately, most anti-war protests in major U.S. cities have targeted the Israeli consulate rather than U.S. government buildings. By contrast, during the 1980s, protests against the U.S.-backed violence in El Salvador rarely targeted Salvadoran consulates, but instead more appropriately took place outside federal offices and arms depots, recognizing that the violence would not be taking place without U.S. weapons and support.
Israel is no banana republic. Even those like Hersh who recognize the key role of the Bush administration in goading Israel to attack Lebanon emphasize that rightist elements within Israel had their own reasons, independent of Washington, to pursue the conflict. Still, given Israel's enormous military, economic, and political dependence on the United States, this latest war on Lebanon could not have taken place without a green light from Washington. President Jimmy Carter, for example, was able to put a halt to Israel's 1978 invasion of Lebanon within days and force the Israeli army to withdraw from the south bank of the Litani River to a narrow strip just north of the Israeli border. By contrast, the Bush administration and an overwhelming bipartisan majority of Congress clearly believed it was in the U.S. interest for Israel to pursue Washington's “dirty work” for an indefinite period, regardless of its negative implications for Israel's legitimate security interests.
Domestic Political Implications
Given the lack of success of the Israeli military campaign, U.S. planners are likely having second thoughts about the ease with which a U.S.-led bombing campaign could achieve victory over Iran. However, the propensity of the Bush administration to ignore historical lessons should not be underestimated. A former senior intelligence official told Hersh that “[T]here is no way that Rumsfeld and Cheney will draw the right conclusion about this. When the smoke clears, they'll say it was a success, and they'll draw reinforcement for their plan to attack Iran.” Indeed, on August 14, President Bush declared that Israel had achieved “victory” in its fight against Hezbollah. The outspoken support of congressional Democrats for Bush's policies and Israel's war on Lebanon portends similar support should the United States ignore history and common sense and attack Iran anyway. Both the Senate and House, in backing administration policy, claimed that, contrary to the broad consensus of international opinion, Israel's military actions were consistent with international law and the UN Charter. By this logic, if Israel's wanton destruction of a small democratic country's civilian infrastructure because of a minor border incident instigated by members of a 3000-man militia of a minority party is a legitimate act of self-defense, surely a similar U.S. attack against Iran—a much larger country with a sizable armed force whose hard-line government might be developing nuclear weapons—could also be seen as a legitimate act of self-defense. Ironically, political action committees sponsored by liberal groups such as MoveOn.org, Peace Action, and Act for Change continue to support the election or re-election of Congressional candidates who have voiced support for Washington's proxy war against Lebanon despite massive Israeli violations of international humanitarian law, its serving as a trial run for a U.S. war against Iran, and its being against Israel's legitimate self-interests. And, unfortunately, on the other extreme, some of the more outspoken elements that have opposed America's proxy war against Lebanon frankly do not have Israel's best interest in mind.
As a result, without a dramatic increase in protests by those who see Washington's cynical use of Israel as bad for virtually everyone, there is little chance this dangerous and immoral policy can be reversed.
Stephen Zunes is Middle East editor for the Foreign Policy In Focus Project. He is a professor of Politics and the author of Tinderbox: U.S. Middle East Policy and the Roots of Terrorism (Common Courage Press, 2003).
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If China hates capitalism so much, they won't mind us passing on their products.
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WELL GUESS WHAT FOCKS!
I BET THAT IF BUSH GET'S THE IMMIGRATION BILL HE'S TRYING TO RAM THROUGH THE SENATE---THEY ARE GOING TO SET-UP A FALSE FLAG (MOST LIKELY NUKE A U.S. CIT)Y--INSTALLL MARSHALL LAW--AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW---IT'S THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION!! THAT INCLUDES MANATORY CHIPPING OF ALL CITIZENS!!!
WAKE-UP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
CALL AGAINST THIS DANGEROUS BILL NOW!!
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Holy shit, guys they are so fucking desperate they are using CIA Universities to write papers that defy physics. This is another barrier breaking event.
Next step - CIA physicist v. Steven Jones...BRING IT ON!
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Collapse of World Trade Center Towers:
What Did and Did Not Cause It?
Zdenek P. Bazant [Czech CIA] and Jia-Liang Le [Chinese CIA]
First six references are from the Czech Spy, the rest are mostly NIST and other controlled writings. No reference to Steven Jones.
Molten Metal is given a blowoff one sentence with no scientific backing.
Look at the diagrams at the end, a four year old drew them.
Not one mention of WTC7.
Just because he has some nice equations he thinks we are fucking blind.
This again is huge that they are attempting to debate with logic and evidence. This is exactly what we need to get a new investigation. Please do more of these reports that shed light into more of the lies...again here is the address notice all the BS and if any physisists can review it that would be awesome!!!!!
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Recession.
It has been admitted, finally, by our Illustrious Goverment officials, we are going into recession.
Is this a surpise to truthers, NO. it will be to the sleepers and bubble heads.
I remember after Vietnam the financial difficultys,this country dealt with. The same is true now, however much werse. I lived in a makeshift shelter in a wooded area with other Nam Vets. We were within walking distance to a town where I worked two jobs, a factory days and as a bartender nights, untill I could afford lodging.
A remember when, this was after Vietnam, tradesmen sold their tools to survive, I distinctly remember a few teary eyed.
So here we go again, thanks Bush, thanks our 535 Politicians, our Great Military leaders, the MIC , their contractors, the Elite masters, and all the bloodsucking parrasites who fed of our nation.
They aren't going to have any problem, they have our money. Mayby the Chinese will have jobs for us.
Bush, out of money, oh hell, just print some more.
I can not help thinking about the children, nor the elderly. I do remember during the recession old folks freezing to death becasue they could not afford heating oil. Ya know, it was either starve or freeze.
What does it take to piss off the general public, exactly what does it take to open their eyes. The lies and deception about WMD's didn't budge em,Counting the dead innocents since the invasion does not seem to have an effect on em, the 4 million innocents in Nam slaughtered sure did not, but guess what, the recesion did. It makes me wonder, no it pisses me off. Well the bubble is gonna break my freinds, being a patriot is not just pushing out your chest draped in flags and bravado. Thats the easy way out, the good old gang shit, being a patriot is getting involved in this land, this country, and defending our rights.
Maby, just maby, the silent majority will get curious about our constitution and bill of rights, maby they will understand weve been screwed.
Blood for money, human sacrifice. Well now its their money, maby they will open up their eyes.
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Holy shit, guys they are so fucking desperate they are using CIA Universities to write papers that defy physics. This is another barrier breaking event.
Next step - CIA physicist v. Steven Jones...BRING IT ON!
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More:
Collapse of World Trade Center Towers:
What Did and Did Not Cause It?
Zdenek P. Bazant [Czech CIA] and Jia-Liang Le [Chinese CIA]
First six references are from the Czech Spy, the rest are mostly NIST and other controlled writings. No reference to Steven Jones.
Molten Metal is given a blowoff one sentence with no scientific backing.
Look at the diagrams at the end, a four year old drew them.
Not one mention of WTC7.
Just because he has some nice equations he thinks we are fucking blind.
This again is huge that they are attempting to debate with logic and evidence. This is exactly what we need to get a new investigation. Please do more of these reports that shed light into more of the lies...again here is the address notice all the BS and if any physisists can review it that would be awesome!!!!!
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chris jones , Chris would you TOO get a CLUE? "They" are NOT doing anything about Cheney BECAUSE MOST all of them are in BED WITH HIM AND BUSH! Dennis Kucinich DID introduce impeachment against Cheney but ONLY 8 so far have signed on to it! Most in Congress are in bed with BOTH Cheney & BUSH, too! Do you honestly think ONLY R's are part of NWO? Come on, Chris and others! Pure evil, Satanic worshipping Bush and CHeney COULD NOT BE GETTING BY WITH ALL THIS TREASONOUS SHIT WITHOUT HELP FROM TREASONOUS DEM'S AND R'S ALIKE! WAKE THE FUCK UP TO THIS FACT PLEASE??? INCLUDING FUCKING HELP FROM HELLARY, BILL, GHOULIANI, KERRY, BIDEN, SPECTOR, AND MAJORITY IN CONGRESS TOO FROM BOTH PARTIES! WE NEED A MASS IMPEACHMENT PARTY AND/OR 2ND AMERICAN REVOLUTION WHICH WOULD BE BETTER AND WE HAVE NEEDED IT FOR ALONG TIME! When they told American sheeple after JFK's murder that they were NOT going to tell us truth for 75 years, WE ALL SHOULD HAVE REVOLTED THEN! I was only 13 at time but fucking American sheeple SHOULD HAVE ROSE UP THEN!
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Where DO those kids learn to kill...couldn't be from a government that is the biggest murder machine in the history of the world...Naw.
Couldn't be from thousand of hours of murder on TV by the *good* guys...Naw.
Couldn't be from global corporate bastards selling hundered of murder vid games...Naw.
Couldn't be from main stream media's over-focus on any violent act in our society to sell papers or TV time...Naw.
Must be the devil, or liberals, or something else.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/
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"Like the communists, the terrorists and radicals who have attacked our nation are followers of a murderous ideology that despises freedom, crushes all dissent, has expansionist ambitions and pursues totalitarian aims," he said at the ceremony....
there goes "el busho" talking about himself again.
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This SUCKS! And just WHO is to decide if someone has a "mental problem" so they can't own a gun? WHO? Fucking treasonous gov't, that's WHO! We KNEW they carried out Manchurian candidate attack in Virginia to pass gun control and now they almost have with NRA approval NO LESS! They can say ANYONE is "mental" and deny them 2nd Amendment rights!
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Sorry, the last one had broken links...
BLACKWATE TORTURES
AlterNet: E-mail: Blackwater-backed Torture Flights Caught in the UKBlackwater-backed Torture Flights Caught in the UK The most secret and powerful mercenary firm in America has been ...
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BLACKWATE TORTURES
AlterNet: E-mail: Blackwater-backed Torture Flights Caught in the UKBlackwater-backed Torture Flights Caught in the UK http://www.alternet. org/bloggers//53723/ The most secret and powerful mercenary firm in America has been ...
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Hey there guys // tell ya what's up my ass (your not so funny remarks -- for one thing) //
I find that I personally prefer to search things out for myself when it comes to issues regarding the behavior of my government (USA) and not so much rely upon (one or two) UNKNOWN individuals out there in computerland who attempt (maybe not on purpose but it happens nevertheless) to drown me in information to the extent where their individual postings take on a life all of their own but do so mainly in 'pasted' content of others. Not saying the content is unreliable -- just so there's no misunderstanding here -- what I'm struggling to relay to you that might be interested is someone who wishes to monopolize an open forum with lengthy (and I do mean lengthy) cut and paste jobs, one after the other, without benefit of others input . Something of this design is simply not my cup of tea // It's not where I wish to put my trust // It's definitely not how I desire to go about discovering for myself if a given matter is true or false.
Hey, I've got all the resources I feel I need at my disposal already (and so do you folks) it's our computer and the vast web that's available (it's all there for the researcher), and of course easy access to a myriad of books by reputable authors without having some UNKNOWN (perhaps well-intentioned individual as they may be) force feed a thousand-and-one lengthy and often disjoined cut and paste jobs in my direction // something like that has a real tendency to distract me from real subjects -- mainly because it takes on a forum not so much for discussion because before anything can be truly stated, more data comes gushing and matters get lost in the process -- it's just one lengthy post after the other and I find I don't read a fraction of it in the process. It's just too much, too fast, too often to be of any real m valuable to me. I don't trust car salesmen, news reporters, or preachers for that matter. Maybe you feel entirely differently in this regard -- not trying to change you if you do.
Give me that computer and an idea in my head and I'll do a Google search which takes me to a thousand-and-one different places (also), but I do so at my own pace, forming opinions as I go without losing place and/or content in the doing of it.
Doing my own research (and not relying on anyone else) that's when the many subjects take on a shape that can actually be discussed, individually, becomes something that can be turned and twisted and examined for what it is and not LOST among a barrage of mass data that does little but keep continuously coming -- over and over again, without let up, like a conveyer belt running wild at top speed.
Doing your own research // Not allowing someone to do it for you and thereby influence you in a manner they want, or send you in a direction THEY THINK you need to be moved towards (I personally feel it's best that be left up to you to decide).
After all, doesn't mainstream media (TV basically) do just that very thing? Give you a mass of subjects (oftentimes diverting you away from truly important issues) telling you what they think is important for you to know.
The reality of it is -- They just don't give a person time to think before matters get lost and we're moved onto the next subject. Our Congress is guilty of doing the same thing.
Psyops, folks -- divert, redirect, confuse, etc., etc. Do your own research and then discuss matters calmly AND most importantly --
Vote Ron Paul 2008.
No offense to anyone.
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Soldiers of Good Fortune
http://www.motherjones.com/news/.../
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At a camp in North Carolina, a private firm called Blackwater USA is training the U.S. Navy to fight terrorists, taking the place of military officers who used to fill such roles. News: The four Americans horrifically killed on Wednesday by a mob in Fallujah, Iraq, worked for Blackwater USA, a private military company profiled by Barry Yeoman in the May 2003 issue of Mother Jones.
At a remote tactical training camp, in a swamp 25 miles from the world's largest naval base, six U.S. sailors are gearing up for their part in President Bush's war on terrorism. Dressed in camouflage on a January afternoon, they wear protective masks and carry nine-millimeter Berettas that fire nonlethal bullets filled with colored soap. Their mission: recapture a ship -- actually a three-story-high model constructed of gray steel cargo containers -- from armed hijackers.
The men approach the front of the vessel in formation, weapons drawn, then silently walk the length of the ship. Suddenly, as they turn the corner, two "terrorists" spring out from behind a plywood barricade and storm the sailors, guns blazing. The trainees, who have instinctively crowded together, prove easy pickings: Though they outnumber their enemy 3-to-1, every one of them gets hit. They return from the ambush with heads hung, covered in pink dye.
"You had people hiding behind their teammates!" barks their instructor, Tony Torres, a compact man with freckles and salt-and-pepper hair. "That's as shameful a thing as I can think of. That's fucked up. That's just fucked up." When approaching a "bad guy," Torres reminds them, a unit must move aggressively, fanning out to divert the terrorists' attention. "You guys need to get your shit together," he scolds. "There's not a lot of cover in this structure. The only thing to do is move toward your threat."
The men listen attentively. They know that Torres, a Navy vet, honed his skills during nine years in the service, performing search-and-rescue operations and providing nuclear-weapons security. But Torres no longer works for the military. These days he is an employee of Blackwater USA, a private company that contracts with the U.S. armed forces to train soldiers and guard government buildings around the world. Every day, the Navy sends chartered buses full of trainees from Naval Station Norfolk to the company's 5,200-acre facility in Moyock, North Carolina. Last fall, Blackwater signed a $35.7 million contract with the Pentagon to train more than 10,000 sailors from Virginia, Texas, and California each year in "force protection." Other contracts are so secret, says Blackwater president Gary Jackson, that he can't tell one federal agency about the business he's doing with another.
When Blackwater opened in 1998, the business of war didn't look like such a sure bet. "This was a roulette, a crapshoot," recalls Jackson, a former Navy seal. During the Gulf War, the Pentagon had begun replacing soldiers with private contractors, relying on civilian businesses to provide logistical support to troops on the front lines. Blackwater's founders were banking on predictions that the military was eager to speed up the process, privatizing many jobs traditionally reserved for uniformed troops. Their investment paid off: Since the attacks of September 11, the company has seen its business boom -- enough to warrant a major expansion of its training facility this year. "To contemplate outsourcing tactical, strategic, firearms-type training -- high-risk training -- is thinking outside the box," Jackson says. "Is this happening? Yes, this is happening."
As the U.S. military wages the war on terrorism, it is increasingly relying on for-profit companies like Blackwater to do work normally performed by soldiers. Defense contractors now do more than simply build airplanes -- they maintain those planes on the battlefield and even fly them in some of the world's most troubled conflict zones. Private military companies supply bodyguards for the president of Afghanistan, construct detention camps to hold suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, and pilot armed reconnaissance planes and helicopter gunships to eradicate coca crops in Colombia. They operate the intelligence and communications systems at the U.S. Northern Command in Colorado, which is responsible for coordinating a response to any attack on the United States. And licensed by the State Department, they are contracting with foreign governments, training soldiers and reorganizing militaries in Nigeria, Bulgaria, Taiwan, and Equatorial Guinea.
In recent months, private military companies have also played a key role in preparing for a war with Iraq. They supply essential support to military bases throughout the Persian Gulf, from operating mess halls to furnishing security. They provide armed guards at a U.S. Army base in Qatar, and they use live ammunition to train soldiers at Camp Doha in Kuwait, where a contractor, whose company ran a computer system that tracks soldiers in the field, was killed by terrorists last January. They also maintain an array of weapons systems vital to an invasion of Iraq, including the B-2 bomber, F-117 stealth fighter, Apache helicopter, KC-10 refueling tanker, U-2 reconnaissance plane, and the unmanned Global Hawk reconnaissance unit. In an all-out war against Saddam Hussein, the military was expected to use as many as 20,000 private contractors in the Persian Gulf. That would be 1 civilian for every 10 soldiers -- a 10-fold increase over the first Gulf War.
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The destruction of the golden dome is nothing more than a pre-conditioning and practice run of the inevitable destruction of the dome of the rock in Palestine. 5 years ago if the zionists blew up the dome of the rock and tried to blame it on muslims you'd laugh....now people are accepting that muslims blow up sacred mosques....and the big daddy will be the dome of the rock so they can build their temple...and the end times fun can begin.
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Yup and the main suspects are the ones that use Israel as a proxy state and others that believe it is the only way to initiate the second coming of that wonderful Jew....Jesus.
Too bad Falwell is dead because he definitely would have been high on the list of direct planners.
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>>100,000 mercenaries
Blackwater is heavily involved in the torture scandal, too. If one wonders why "our military" would do such things, here's the answer.
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The destruction of the golden dome is nothing more than a pre-conditioning and practice run of the inevitable destruction of the dome of the rock in Palestine. 5 years ago if the zionists blew up the dome of the rock and tried to blame it on muslims you'd laugh....now people are accepting that muslims blow up sacred mosques....and the big daddy will be the dome of the rock so they can build their temple...and the end times fun can begin.
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THEATER OF THE ABSURD: Snow: Intense New Levels Of Violence In Iraq Are ‘Signs Of Success’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...4/snow-success/
The Pentagon yesterday released its first quarterly report assessing President Bush’s escalation strategy, confirming that overall levels of violence in the country actually “increased throughout much of Iraq in recent months,” as attacks “shifted away from Baghdad and Anbar” and into “cities and provinces that had been relatively peaceful before the Bush administration’s troop buildup.”
Political reconciliation has almost entirely stalled, suicide bombings “more than doubled” from January to April, sectarian deaths have increased beyond pre-escalation levels, and U.S. troop deaths are spiking.
During his press briefing yesterday, White House spokesman Tony Snow said the increasing chaos was a positive sign. The new levels of attacks “fit a pattern that we see throughout the region,” he said, “which is that when you see things moving towards success, or when you see signs of success, that there are acts of violence.” Watch it:
Also yesterday, Snow sharply downplayed the importance of the September Iraq report from top U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus. Just last month, President Bush said September would be an “important moment” in the war because “Petraeus says that’s when he’ll have a pretty good assessment as to what the effects of the surge has been.”
Yesterday, Snow described Petraeus’ report as merely a “first opportunity” to “have a little bit of a metric” to “see what happens when you have all the forces in place for the Baghdad security plan.”
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CFR Angelina Jolie blocks Fox News.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...locks-fox-news/
Fox News reports, fair and balanced:
Angelina Jolie’s true colors came out Wednesday as she promoted a film about freedom of the press and then tried to censor all her interviews. […]
Jolie told Paramount Pictures publicists to ban FOX News Channel and all FOX News affiliates from covering the “Mighty Heart” premiere on the red carpet. It was only with the intervention of mortified Paramount staff that an FNC camera crew was allowed to be present.
Apparently, no one told Jolie of the highly positive review FOX News had given “A Mighty Heart” from Cannes.
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Ooops, I mean BLOG....not block.
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Yeah Sane and Gabriel!
You guys should maintain your own block and just post a link here for those who are interested.
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Sane!
Thanks for the site on Propaganda
Regards
Ron
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How the Media Lies A Case Study
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/20...the-media-lies/
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>>RFID AMNESTY BILL IS Freddy Kruger and will not DIE!! KING BUSH UPSET THAT PEOPLE NO LONGER BELIEVE HIS LIES ABOUT AMNESTY AND RFID
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Imperial President Visits Imperious Senate to Promote Intemperate - PR Newswire (press release), NY - 11 hours ago
http://sev.prnewswire.com/govern...12062007-
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The president met today with Republican legislators in an effort to pressure them into reviving a bill that would grant amnesty to 12 million or more ...
American Daily Don’t Resurrect the Amnesty Bill Kaye Grogan - Opinion Editorials, VA - 10 hours ago http://
www.opinioneditorials.com...n_20070614.html
There is no way on God’s green earth that the majority of the American people are going to believe the pro-amnesty group in Washington, DC
Angus Reid Global Monitor Spinning the immigration pole - Washington Times, DC - 10 hours ago
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/2...11527-
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Com, Mr. Medved launched into a searing attack on "hysterical" denunciations of amnesty on talk radio, and erroneously asserted that under the Senate bill ...
Family Security Matters Senate Supporters Still Vow to Push Amnesty Bill Through - Family Security Matters, NJ - Jun 13, 2007
http://www.familysecuritymatters....php?
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The new amnesty bill—still supported by the power hungry Democrats and RINOs—is still being pushed. These “I deserve to be rich and powerful and the hell ...
Immigration bill leads to breakdown of US - The Citizen.com, GE - 10 hours ago
http://www.thecitizen.com/node/17677
Everybody I know is prepared to even vote for a Democrat rather than reelect those of you who vote for this amnesty bill. You’ve squandered years
Amnesty opponents are not un-American - Small Gov Times, VA - 16 hours ago
http://www.smallgovtimes.com/sto...esty.opponents/
EDITORIAL - Although action in the United States Senate this week has slowed passage of the amnesty bill, it is not yet dead as President Bush remains a dick
Major provisions of minor import - San Francisco Chronicle, USA - 4 hours ago
http://news.google.com/news?um=1...=amnesty%
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He repeated his argument that the Kennedy-Kyl bill is not an amnesty bill for illegal immigrants -- because they would have to return to their country
Liberals Stunned by Radical New 'AMNESTY BILL,' According to - Earthtimes.org - Jun 12, 2007
http://www.earthtimes.org/
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In this newly proposed "AMNESTY BILL," illegal aliens would have 120 days to leave the US without any penalty or incarceration. In other words, "amnesty" ...
A deceptive immigration bill - Napa Valley Register, CA - Jun 12, 2007
http://
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America needs you to call your senators and express your outrage over this amnesty bill, both in principle and in practical costs to the American people. ...
WJACtv.com Joe Murray: President Makes A Personal Appeal - Evening Bulletin, PA - Jun 13, 2007
http://thebulletin.us/site/news....id=576361&
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The Texas senator pointed to the 1986 amnesty bill as a prime example where lawmakers "over-promised and under-delivered." Cornyn further stated that he was ...
MORE ARTICLES ON THIS DICTATORIAL PUSH FOR A TREASONOUS BILL
It's Obvious, Our Sovereignty Is Threatened Daily American Daily
http://www.americandaily.com/art...m/article/
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CERTAIN MORTALITY OF THE UNITED STATES NewsWithViews.com
http://www.newswithviews.com/Woo...e/
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The scuttling of amnesty bill S.1348 Joplin Independent
http://
www.joplinindependent.com...gheen1181578113
Why I Was Opposed Family Security Matters
http://www.familysecuritymatters....php?
id=1054466
No Means No, Mr. President! Grassroots Opposition to Senate ... Earthtimes.org
http://www.earthtimes.org/
articl...se,121160.shtml
No real enforcement under 'amnesty bill' Ventura County Star (subscription)
http://www.venturacountystar.com...r-amnesty-bill/
With Immigration Bill Stalled, Advocates Push Forward New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/1.../
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Bill offers realistic idea on immigration The Southern
http://www.southernillinoisan.co...ns/
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Amnesty ignores public sentiment Asbury Park Press
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll.../706130365/
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Elizabeth Dole Deserves a "Thank You" From Conservatives The Conservative Voice
http://www.theconservativevoice....icle/
25905.html
Bush to push immigration bill at Capitol Central Penn Business Journal
http://www.centralpennbusiness.c...e.asp?
aID=61081
Bush To Lobby For Stalled Immigration Bill WJACtv.com
http://www.wjactv.com/politics/1...035/
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Immigration's Lost Voices Canton Repository (subscription)
http://www.cantonrep.com/index.p...&
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Amnesty ignores public sentiment Asbury Park Press
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll.../706130365/
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How the Media Lies
A Case Study
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/20...the-media-lies/
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>>>>>>>>>BUSH USING HITLER TECHNIQUES TO ILLEGALLY FORCE RFID AMNESTY BILL
Bush right now is in a press conference in front of builders and contractors (#1 employeer of illegals to get a slave workforce). He has timed applause and is using pure propoganda to force a law that strips all Americans of more rights and increases our decline to bankruptcy.
Tampre proof ID does not exist, like unsinkable ship and unbreakable lock.
If it did exist, can you imagine what would have happened if Hitler had a tamper proof ID card for all people in Europe?
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On the gun bill issue, they say they need better background checks for mental illnesses, well, this is in light of virginia tech, however, they contradict themselves by going on to say that virginia is one of 22 states that already does that....WTF
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Landmark study prompts rethink of genetic code
Published: Thursday June 14, 2007 http://rawstory.com/news/afp/
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The most detailed probe yet into the workings of the human genome has led scientists to conclude that a cornerstone concept about the chemical code for life is badly flawed.
The ground-breaking study, published in more than two dozen papers in journals on both sides of the Atlantic, takes a small percentage of the genome to pieces to draw up a "parts list," identifying the biological role of every component.
For the international team of investigators, the four-year project was the computer-equivalent of passing a fine-toothed comb through a mountain of raw data.
Reporting in the British journal Nature and the US journal Genome Research on Thursday, they suggest that an established theory about the genome should be consigned to history.
Under this view, the genome is rather like a ribbon studded with some 22,000 "nuggets" in the form of genes, which make proteins, the essential stuff of life.
Genes -- deemed so valuable that some discoverers of them have been prompted to file patents over them for commercial gain -- amount to only around a twentieth, or even less, of the genetic code.
In between the genes and the sequences known to regulate their activity are long, tedious stretches that appear to do nothing. The term for them is "junk" DNA, reflecting the presumption that they are merely driftwood from our evolutionary past and have no biological function.
But the work by the ENCODE (ENCyclopaedia of DNA Elements) consortium implies that this nuggets-and-dross concept of DNA should be, well, junked.
The genome turns out to a highly complex, interwoven machine with very few inactive stretches, the researchers report.
Genes, it transpires, are just one of many types of DNA sequences that have a functional role.
And "junk" DNA turns out to have an essential role in regulating the protein-making business.
Previously written off as silent, it emerges as a singer with its own discreet voice, part of a vast, interacting molecular choir.
"The majority of the genome is copied, or transcribed, into RNA, which is the active molecule in our cells, relaying information from the archival DNA to the cellular machinery," said Tim Hubbard of the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, a British research group that was part of the team.
"This is a remarkable finding, since most prior research suggested only a fraction of the genome was transcribed."
Francis Collins, director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), which coralled 35 scientific groups from around the world into the ENCODE project, said the scientific community "will need to rethink some long-held views about what genes are and what they do."
"(...) This could have significant implications for efforts to identify the DNA sequences involved in many human diseases," he said.
Another rethink is in offing about how the genome has evolved, said Collins.
Until now, researchers had thought that the pressure to survive would relentlessly sculpt the human genome, leaving it with a slim, efficient core of genes that are essential for biological function.
But the ENCODE consortium were surprised to find that the genome appears to be stuffed with functional elements that offer no identifiable benefits in terms of survival or reproduction.
The researchers speculate that there is a point behind this survival of the evolutionary cull. Humans could share with other animals a large pool of functional elements -- a "warehouse" stuffed with a variety of tools on which each species can draw, enabling it to adapt according to its environmental niche.
The ENCODE endeavour flows from the Human Genome Project, which concluded in April 2003 with the publication of a polished draft of the human genetic code.
But having the draft is not the same as knowing what is in it or how it works.
And this is essential for unlocking knowledge about our evolutionary odyssey, just as it is needed for engineering new treatments for inherited disease.
The collaborative study focussed on 44 strategically chosen targets which together account for about one percent of the genome, or about 30 million of the three billion "rungs" in the DNA double-helix ladder.
The data is being placed in the public domain to help medical and other research.
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Of Crazies, Neocons and the Enemy Within
By Manuel Valenzuela
http://
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Iraq surge a failure, top Democrats tell Bush
Published: Wednesday June 13, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/
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Top US congressional Democrats bluntly told President George W. Bush Wednesday that his Iraq troop "surge" policy was a failure.
Senate Majority leader Harry Reid and House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi challenged the president over Iraq by sending him a letter, ahead of a White House meeting later on Wednesday.
"As many had forseen, the escalation has failed to produce the intended results," the two leaders wrote.
"The increase in US forces has had little impact in curbing the violence or fostering political reconciliation.
"It has not enhanced Americas national security. The unsettling reality is that instances of violence against Iraqis remain high and attacks on US forces have increased.
"In fact, the last two months of the war were the deadliest to date for US troops.
The letter appeared to preview a fresh showdown over Iraq between anti-war Democrats and the president, just a few weeks after Bush forced his foes to strip troop withdrawal timelines from a 100 billion dollar emergency war budget.
It also came a few days after the US military mourned its 3,500th soldier killed in action in Iraq.
Pelosi and Reid told Bush in the letter that they planned to send him new legislation to "limit the US mission in Iraq, begin the phased redeployment of US forces, and bring the war to a responsible end."
On Tuesday, Reid said that Senate Democrats would attach troop withdrawal deadlines to a Defense Department Authorization bill, due to be debated within weeks.
The next critical point in the showdown between Bush and Congress over Iraq is expected in September, when US commander in Iraq David Petraeus is due to report on progress in the strategy to "surge" up to 30,000 more US troops into the war-ravaged nation.
Even senior Republicans have said they expected the president will have little choice but to make adjustments in the Iraq strategy, once the report is made public.
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How the Neocons Misread Machiavelli
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High on Hate?
http://
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The Siege of Baghdad
By Glenn David Cox
http://
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Syria, Lebanon, Israel: Danger and Opportunity
http://www.stljewishlight.com/
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After three years of intense haggling, threats and pressures from all sides, the United Nations Security Council last Wednesday approved the creation of an International Tribunal to try suspects in the 2005 assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri and several other apparently politically motivated murders of other Lebanese leaders. The Chinese have a symbol in their alphabet that simultaneously stands for "danger" and "opportunity," which seems to summarize the complex, Byzantine issues surrounding Syria, Lebanon, Israel, the United States and other major powers. First and foremost, the approval by the Security Council of the creation of the International Tribunal is a major breakthrough in restoring respect for the rule of law at the world body. Until last week, the pro-Damascus representatives from China and Russia had prevented any meaningful resolution on the apparent Syrian role in the assassination of the pro-Western Rafik Hariri, who was on the road to a political comeback. But those two powers abstained rather than exercising their right to kill the resolution by veto, and the International Tribunal will be created by June 10 if the Lebanese government fails to create its own panel. Until now, pro-Syrian factions in Lebanon, including the Syrian-backed terrorist group Hezbollah, had been able to block the weak government of Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Siniora from creating a commission of inquiry to probe the assassination of Hariri, and other anti-Syrian leaders, including Gibran Tueni in 2005 and Pierre Gemayel in 2006.
In a New York Times story by Hassan M. Fattah last Friday, it was reported that the reaction within Lebanon to the United Nations action to create the International Tribunal was "mixed." Because of the link of the killing of Hariri and the others to Syrian President Bashar Assad, "the greatest fear expressed by many in the region" was that the its creation "would only result in further turmoil," reports Fattah. On the other hand, supporters of Hariri, including his son, Saad, and members of his family and political movement called creation of the tribunal "a major step forward." It was recalled that Hariri, 60, had been a strong prime minister whose personal efforts are credited with the impressive reconstruction in Beirut to repair the damages left by the sectarian civil war in the nation which lasted from 1975-1990. Lebanese outrage over the assassination of Hariri led to the "Cedar Revolution," in which days of demonstration in Beirut successfully demanded that Syria end its 15-year occupation of the country.
The creation of the International Tribunal to investigate the Lebanese assassinations came at the very time that a pitched battle continues between Lebanese Army troops and a violent Palestinian faction called Fatah al-Islam, at Nahr al-Bared, a Palestinian refugee camp in northern Lebanon. The faction claims a link to Osama bin-Laden's Al Qaeda, but Michael Young, in an article in last Friday's Wall Street Journal quotes Palestinian sources as "saying that Fatah al-Islam is acting on Syria's behalf."
What then, are the opportunities for positive developments amid all of the grim news? First of all, Syria has been put on official notice that it can no longer hide behind a threatened Russian or Chinese veto to avoid being held accountable for the assassinations of the Lebanese leaders. If there has been one consistent truth about the Assad regimes, both that of Hafez Assad, and that of his son Bashar Assad, is that Damascus views international situations realistically and not recklessly for the most part. The disengagement agreements negotiated by former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger in the aftermath of the 1973 Yom Kippur War have been strictly observed, keeping Syria's direct border with Israel quiet. The diplomatic isolation resulting from possible criminal indictments in the Hariri investigation is believed to be behind Syria's continued professed interest in renewed peace talks with Israel. Last Friday's Wall Street Journal contained an item that stated Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert "is exploring possibly renewing Syria peace talks and has indicated willingness to give up the Golan Heights," quoting an unnamed Israeli official.
Any negotiations over the future status of the Golan Heights would be complex and emotional, as former [and most likely future] Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak found when he attempted to negotiate with Syria during his term. Olmert's grip on power has been deeply wounded over the scathing criticism he received for the mishandling of last summer's war against Hezbollah in Lebanon. At the same time, the very isolation felt by Assad and the weakness felt by Olmert could spur both leaders toward seeking a peace agreement. A formal peace treaty between Syria and Israel would complete the circle of formerly hostile nations, after Egypt and Jordan's treaties, with formal recognition of the Jewish State and its defined borders.
And so, while the situation in Syria and Lebanon is fraught with many dangers for greater instability, it may at the same time present opportunities for progress toward peace if the right elements can fall into place.
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Israel, Lebanon, and Syria have not been closer to peace talks since 9/11. Poor Cheney and the Military Industrial Complex.
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Dennis Miller and Rudy Giuliani: Birds of a Feather
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/
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Comedy Central - Ron Paul 'Disappeared' Again?
Comedy Central - Ron Paul 'Disappeared' Again?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ISRAEL GENERAL SAYS FUCK YOU TO BUSH'S PERPETUAL WAR WITH PALESTINIANS!!!!!!
http://news.independent.co.uk/
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General who helped redraw the borders of Israel says road map to peace is a lie
The man who commanded Gaza and the West Bank from the last day of the Six Day War talks to Donald Macintyre in Tel Aviv
Published: 10 June 2007
Immediately after the Six Day War, 40 years ago, Shlomo Gazit was put in charge of Gaza and the West Bank. Today, the retired general is in favour of talks with Hamas, describes the road map as a "pretext" for Israel not to negotiate with the Palestinians, and thinks the idea that the US can or should veto a peace process between Jerusalem and Damascus is a "nonsense".
At first sight Mr Gazit could be a classic military hawk. A tough, unsentimental man with 37 years in the Israeli Defence Forces behind him, he has never been slow in condemning Palestinian attacks on Israeli civilians. Yet he enjoys the unique distinction of having, from the heart of the Israeli military, proposed in writing a Palestinian state exactly 40 years ago yesterday - 24 hours before the war had even ended.
And he has never been more convinced than now that such a state, its negotiated borders based on those that preceded the war, and involving withdrawal from most of the West Bank Jewish settlements, remains the only answer to the conflict.
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Olmert, now some of the most respected generals are saying Fuck You to Bush, the Neo-Cons, and the MIC!!! And leadership is being changed to the same PM who promoted leaving occupied territories??? Oh well looks like the Israeli scapegoat fallback option is gonna be history soon.
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Blackwater - The Shadow Army of Mercenaries
Few Americans know that over 100,000 mercenaries from
the 'Blackwater Corporation' are in Iraq today. Their
causality figures are unknown. They are modern day
Hessians.
Visit:
Blackwater - The Shadow Army of Mercenaries
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../
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now THAT, is telling it straight.
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DEAD SEA SCROLLS
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/
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another one.. not like we havent been expecting this. watched michael moore's sicko last night, its no wonder the government corporation didnt want it getting loose.
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This is what comes of building Empires.
The rise and fall, none have endured, a lesson the masters have neglected to include in their agenda.
I may be paranoid, or at the very least preocupied that before 2008 they ( Shadow Gov.)pull of another abomination. If this be the case, a revolution will begin in our land. I pray it does not come to this.
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Declassified Los Alamos DNA and Genetics Powerpoint
"Robust Bayesian Analysis of Gene Expression Microarray Data"
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Sane, take your megaphone and sit on it.
Yiddish people went to CHRISTIANS to teach them Hebrew a dead language Christians kept alive to study scripture. We are both gentiles. Me because I am, you from your Khazar conversion. Jesus was Arab (Semite) and so was ABRAHAM.
ARABS! you are a CONVERT who murders SEMITES on sight. So shut up. At least I actually AM from my ethnicity, right or wrong. Not some silly convert like you.
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Well the only Jesus that I follow is the Jewish Jesus. I have no ideo who you are referring to.
You are really becoming a testament to apocalyptic absurdity. Anytime you wish to debate based on reality and independent sources, you know where to find me. Otherwise I would suggest you rant to the comotose, then you might have a 50/50 chance of recruiting believers to your deceptions.
However should you just lack white matter, pick up a book and get edumacated.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti...7/
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here they come after the guns again, alienate the victims families who know responsible people ARMED could have stopped CHO, and with this "mental history" junk theyre pushing, a ticket for jaywalking or a speeding ticket could be evaluated as self endangerment to deny 2nd amendment rights.
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Sane, take your megaphone and sit on it.
Yiddish people went to CHRISTIANS to teach them Hebrew a dead language Christians kept alive to study scripture.
We are both gentiles. Me because I am, you from your Khazar conversion.
Jesus was Arab (Semite) and so was ABRAHAM.
ARABS!
you are a CONVERT who murders SEMITES on sight.
So shut up. At least I actually AM from my ethnicity, right or wrong. Not some silly convert like you.
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The media tells you what you need to hear to think what you are told. It is useless as a basis of action.
Palestin is holocausted, and you hear they are 'beating up Israel' with their garage rockets.
If they told me the sun was on high at noon, I would look at the window myself.
NOTHING they say is trustworthy.
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Hey all you nazis out there, your hero Kurt Waldheim is fucking DEAD!!!!!
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If they are going to chemical castrate pedohiles, I imagine the the Bush Adminiostration and the Vatican must be thinking what they can do against this, since they are all Pedophiles, I like the law and hope that all those perverts in governments men and women get all castrated and do not harm human beings anymore.
Did you hear that Mr. Cheney, Bush Sr, Hilary Clinton, Pope, etc,etc....
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naaw, jump to bash sane because ya just cant match that pace, complaints about "owns the page", "wannabe owner" only shows me this is jealousy and envy, maybe wanting to "own the page" yourself. transference - a basic psychological principal. funny how the truth exposes itself sometimes.
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Thanks dude, for the life of me I still cannot understand what is up jbird's ass. Could be hemorroids, alien abduction, repressed memoeries...I have a hard time believing he is intentionally in the disinfo crows...seems like someone who had too many girlfriends leave him or something
But then again almost nothing would surprise me these days.
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Bush is making some sense here ... as a Christian I believe that the Holy Bible is the handbook on how to live as a human creature. Many other religions and ideologies contain unethical guidelines pertaining to human rights and social values. I believe that there IS evil in the world, but I believe this evil should be confronted only in self defence or if acts of sheer atrocity are taking place (like in Darfur). Other than that I would say only small scall intervention tasks forces should confront problems like Saddam in a more straightforward, person to person manner.
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jerk, hostile voice, idiot, dumb ass, lazy, a waste of time, looking for a fight anywhere, spook..
gottaluvit.. really effective too!
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Blowback - The Costs and Consequences of American Empire
by Chalmers Johnson Henry Holt, 2000
http://
www.thirdworldtraveler.co...owback_BCJ.html
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Northern Italian communities had, for years, complained about low-flying American military aircraft. In February 1998, the inevitable happened. A Marine Corps EA-6B Prowler with a crew of four, one of scores of advanced American jet fighters and bombers stationed at places like Aviano, Cervia, Brindisi, and Sigonella, sliced through a ski-lift cable near the resort town of Cavalese and plunged twenty people riding in a single gondola to their deaths on the snowy slopes several hundred feet below. Although marine pilots are required to maintain altitude of at least one thousand feet (two thousand, according to the Italian government), the plane had cut the cable at a height of 360 feet. It was traveling at 621 miles per hour when 517 miles per hour was considered the upper limit. The pilot had been performing low-level acrobatics while his copilot took pictures on videotape (which he later destroyed).
In response to outrage in Italy and calls for vigorous prosecution of those responsible, the marine pilots argued that their charts were inaccurate, that their altimeter had not worked, and that they had not consulted U.S. Air Force units permanently based in the area about local hazards. A court-martial held not in Italy but in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, exonerated everyone involved, calling it a "training accident." Soon after, President Bill Clinton apologized and promised financial compensation to the victims, but
on May 14, 1999, Congress dropped the provision for aid to the families because of opposition in the House of Representatives and from the Pentagon.
This was hardly the only such incident in which American service personnel victimized foreign civilians in the post-Cold War world. From Germany and Turkey to Okinawa and South Korea, similar incidents have been common-as has been their usual denouement. The United States government never holds politicians or higher-ranking military officers responsible and seldom finds that more should be done beyond offering pro forma apologies and perhaps financial compensation of some, often minimal sort. On rare occasions, as with the Italian cable cutting, when such a local tragedy rises to the level of global news, what often seems strangest to Americans is the level of national outrage elsewhere over what the U.S. media portray as, at worst, an apparently isolated incident, however tragic to those involved.
Certainly, the one subject beyond discussion at such moments is the fact that, a decade after the end of the Cold War, hundreds of thousands of American troops, supplied with the world's most advanced weaponry, sometimes including nuclear arms, are stationed on over sixty-one base complexes in nineteen countries worldwide, using the Department of Defense's narrowest definition of a "major installation"; if one included every kind of installation that houses representatives of the American military, the number would rise to over eight hundred. There are, of course, no Italian air bases on American soil. Such a thought would be ridiculous. Nor, for that matter, are there German, Indonesian, Russian, Gree, or Japanese troops stationed on Italian soil. Italy is, moreover, a close ally of the United States, and no conceivable enemy nation endangers its shores.
All this is almost too obvious to state-and so is almost never said. It is simply not a matter for discussion, much less of debate in the land of the last imperial power. Perhaps similar thinking is second nature to any imperium.
Perhaps the Romans did not find it strange to have their troops in Gaul, nor the British in South Africa. But what is unspoken is no less real, nor does it lack consequences just because it is not part of any ongoing domestic discussion.... it is past time for such a discussion to begin, for Americans to consider why we have created an empire-a word from which we shy away-and what the consequences of our imperial stance may be for the rest of the world and for ourselves. Not so long ago, the way we garrisoned the world could be discussed far more openly and comfortably because the explanation seemed to lie at hand-in the very existence of the Soviet Union and of communism. Had the Italian disaster occurred two decades earlier, it would have seemed no less a tragedy, but many Americans would have argued that, given the Cold War, such incidents were an unavoidable cost of protecting democracies like Italy against the menace of Soviet totalitarianism.
With the disappearance of any military threat faintly comparable to that posed by the former Soviet Union, such "costs" have become easily avoidable. American military forces could have been withdrawn from Italy, as well as from other foreign bases, long ago. That they were not and that Washington instead is doing everything in its considerable powers to perpetuate Cold War structures, even without the Cold War's justification, places such overseas deployments in a new light. They have become striking evidence, for those who care to look, of an imperial project that the Cold War obscured. The byproducts of this project are likely to build up reservoirs of resentment against all Americans-tourists, students, and businessmen, as well as members of the armed forces-that can have lethal results.
For any empire, including an unacknowledged one, there is a kind of balance sheet that builds up over time. Military crimes, accidents, and atrocities make up only one category on the debit side of the balance sheet that the United States has been accumulating, especially since the Cold War ended. What we have freed ourselves of, however, is any genuine consciousness of how we might look to others on this globe. Most Americans are probably unaware of how Washington exercises its global hegemony, since so much of this activity takes place either in relative secrecy or under comforting rubrics. Many may, as a start, find it hard to believe that our place in the world even adds up to an empire. But only when we come to see our country as both profiting from and trapped within the structures of an empire of its own making will it be possible for us to explain many elements of the world that otherwise perplex us.
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The term "blowback," which officials of the Central Intelligence Agency first invented for their own internal use, is starting to circulate among students of international relations. It refers to the unintended consequences of policies that were kept secret from the American people. What the daily press reports as the malign acts of "terrorists" or "drug lords" or "rogue states" or "illegal arms merchants" often turn out to be blowback from earlier American operations. One man's terrorist is, of course, another man's freedom fighter, and what U.S. officials denounce as unprovoked terrorist attacks on its innocent citizens are often meant as retaliation for previous American imperial actions. Terrorists attack innocent and undefended American targets precisely because American soldiers and sailors firing cruise missiles from ships at sea or sitting in B-52 bombers at extremely high altitudes or supporting brutal and repressive regimes from Washington seem invulnerable. As members of the Defense Science Board wrote in a 1997 report to the undersecretary of defense for acquisition and technology, "Historical data show a strong correlation between U.S. involvement in international situations and an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States. In addition, the military asymmetry that denies nation states the ability to engage in overt attacks against the United States drives the use of transnational actors [that is, terrorists from one country attacking in another]."
The most direct and obvious form of blowback often occurs when the victims fight back after a secret American bombing, or a U.S.-sponsored campaign of state terrorism, or a ClA-engineered overthrow of a foreign political leader. All around the world today, it is possible to see the groundwork being laid for future forms of blowback. In pursuing the war in Vietnam in the early 1970s, President Richard Nixon and his national security adviser Henry Kissinger ordered more bombs dropped on rural Cambodia than had been dropped on Japan during all of World War 11, killing at least three-quarters of a million Cambodian peasants and helping legitimize the murderous Khmer Rouge movement under Pol Pot. In his subsequent pursuit of revenge and ideological purity Pol Pot ensured that another million and a half Cambodians, this time mainly urban dwellers, were murdered. Americans generally think of Pol Pot as some kind of unique, self-generated monster and his "killing fields" as an inexplicable atavism totally divorced from civilization. But without the United States government's Vietnam-era savagery, he could never have come to power in a culture like Cambodia's, just as Mao's uneducated peasant radicals would never have gained legitimacy in a normal Chinese context without the disruption and depravity of the Japanese war. Significantly, in its calls for an international tribunal to try the remaining leaders of the Khmer Rouge for war crimes, the United States has demanded that such a court restrict its efforts to the period from 1975 to 1979-that is, after the years of carpet bombing were over and before the U.S. government began to collaborate with the Khmer Rouge against the Vietnamese Communists, who invaded Cambodia in 1978, drove the Khmer Rouge from power, and were trying to bring some stability to the country.
Even an empire cannot control the long-term effects of its policies. That is the essence of blowback. Take the civil war in Afghanistan in the 1980s, in which Soviet forces directly intervened on the government side and the CIA armed and supported any and all groups willing to face the Soviet armies. Over the years the fighting turned Kabul, once a major center of Islamic culture, into a facsimile of Hiroshima after the bomb. American policies helped ensure that the Soviet Union would suffer the same kind of debilitating defeat in Afghanistan as the United States had in Vietnam. In fact, the defeat so destabilized the Soviet regime that at the end of the 1980s it collapsed. But in Afghanistan the United States also helped bring to power the Taliban, a fundamentalist Islamic movement whose policies toward women, education, justice, and economic well-being resemble not so much those of Ayatollah Khomeini's Iran as those of Pol Pot's Cambodia. A group of these mujahedeen, who only a few years earlier the United States had armed with ground-to-air Stinger missiles, grew bitter over American acts and policies in the Gulf War and vis-a-vis Israel. In 1993, they bombed the World Trade Center in New York and assassinated several CIA employees as they waited at a traffic light in Langley, Virginia. Four years later, on November 12, 1997, after the Virginia killer had been convicted by an American court, unknown assailants shot and killed four American accountants, unrelated in any way to the CIA, in their car in Karachi, Pakistan, in retaliation.
It is likely that U.S. covert policies have helped create similar conditions in the Congo, Guatemala, and Turkey, and that we are simply waiting for the blowback to occur. Guatemala is a particularly striking example of American imperial policies in its own "backyard." In 1954, the Eisenhower administration planned and the CIA organized and funded a military coup that overthrew a Guatemalan president whose modest land reform policies were considered a threat to American corporations. Blowback from this led to a Marxist guerrilla insurgency in the 1980s and so to CIA- and Pentagon-supported genocide against Mayan peasants. In the spring of 1999, a report on the Guatemalan civil war from the U.N.-sponsored Commission for Historical Clarification made clear that "the American training of the officer corps in counterinsurgency techniques" was a "key factor" in the "genocide.... Entire Mayan villages were attacked and burned and their inhabitants were slaughtered in an effort to deny the guerrillas protection. According to the commission, between 1981 and 1983 the military government of Guatemala-financed and supported by the U.S. government-destroyed some four hundred Mayan villages in a campaign of genocide in which approximately two hundred thousand peasants were killed. Jose Pertierra, an attorney representing Jennifer Harbury, an American lawyer who spent years trying to find out what happened to her "disappeared" Guatemalan husband and supporter of the guerrillas, Efrain Bamaca Velasquez, writes that the Guatemalan military officer who arrested, tortured, and murdered Bamaca was a CIA "asset" and was paid $44,000 for the information he obtained from him.Visiting Guatemala in March 1999, soon after the report's release, President Clinton said, "It is important that I state clearly that support for military forces and intelligence units which engaged in violence and widespread repression was wrong, and the United States must not repeat that mistake.... The United States will no longer take part in campaigns of repression." But on virtually the day that the president was swearing off "dirty tricks" in other people's countries, his government was reasserting its support for Turkey in its war of repression against its Kurdish minority. The Kurds constitute fifteen million people in a Turkish population estimated at fifty-eight million. Another five million Kurds live largely within reach of Turkey's borders in Iraq, Iran, and Syria. The Turks have discriminated against the Kurds for the past seventy years and have conducted an intense genocidal campaign against them since 1992, in the process destroying some three thousand Kurdish villages and hamlets in the backward southeastern part of the country. Former American ambassador to Croatia Peter W. Galbraith comments that "Turkey routinely jails Kurdish politicians for activities that would be protected speech in democratic countries." The Europeans have so far barred Turkey from the European Union because of its treatment of the Kurds. Because of its strategic location on the border of the former Soviet Union, however, Turkey was a valued American ally and NATO member during the Cold War, and the United States maintains the relationship unchanged even though the USSR has disappeared.
After Israel and Egypt, Turkey is the third-highest recipient of American military assistance. Between 1991 and 1995, the United States supplied four-fifths of Turkey's military imports, which were among the largest in the world. The U.S. government, in turn, depends on the NATO base at Incirlik, Turkey, to carry out Operation Provide Comfort, set up after the Gulf War to supply and protect Iraqi Kurds from repression by Saddam Hussein-at the same time that the United States acquiesces in Turkish mistreatment of its far larger Kurdish population. One obvious reason is that communities like Stratford and Bridgeport, Connecticut, where Black Hawk and Comanche helicopters are made, depend for their economic health on continued large-scale arms sales to countries like Turkey. At the time of the Gulf War, a senior adviser to the Turkish prime minister said to John Shattuck, assistant secretary of state for human rights, "If you want to stop human rights abuses do two things-stop IMF credits and cut off aid from the Pentagon. But don't sell the weapons and give aid and then complain about the Kurdish issue. Don't tell us about human rights while you're selling these weapons."
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The capture in February 1999 of the Kurdish guerrilla leader Abdullah Ocalan exposed the nature of American involvement with Turkey, in this case via a CIA gambit that holds promise as a rich source of future blowback. The CIA term for this policy is "disruption," by which it means the harassment of terrorists around the world. The point is to flush them out of hiding so that cooperative police forces or secret services can then arrest and imprison them. According to John Diamond of the Associated Press, "The CIA keeps its role secret, and the foreign countries that actually crack down on the suspects carefully hide the U.S. role, lest they stir up trouble for themselves." There are no safeguards at all against misidentifying "suspects," and "the CIA sends no formal notice to Congress." Disruption is said to be a preemptive, offensive form of counterterrorism. Richard Clarke, President Clinton's antiterrorism czar, likes it because he can avoid "the cumbersome Congressional reporting requirements that go with ClA-directed covert operations" and because "human rights organizations would have no way of identifying a CIA role." The CIA has carried out disruption operations in at least ten countries since September 1998. In the case of Ocalan's capture, the United States "provided Turkey with critical information about Ocalan's whereabouts." This was the first time some of the details of a "disruption" campaign were made public.
Because we live in an increasingly interconnected international system, we are all, in a sense, living in a blowback world. Although the term originally applied only to the unintended consequences for Americans of American policies, there is every reason to widen its meaning. Whether, for example, any unintended consequences of the American policies that fostered and then heightened the economic collapse of Indonesia in 1997 ever blow back to the United States, the unintended consequences for Indonesians have been staggering levels of suffering, poverty, and loss of hope. Similarly, the unintended consequences of American-supported coups and bombing in Cambodia in the early 1970s were unimaginable chaos, disruption, and death for Cambodians later in the decade. Our role in the military coup in Chile in 1973, for example, produced little blowback onto the United States itself but had lethal consequences for liberals, socialists, and innocent bystanders in Chile and elsewhere. On the nature of American policies in Chile, journalist Jon Lee Anderson reports, "The plan, according to declassified United States government documents, was to make Chile ungovernable under [elected socialist president Salvador] Allende, provoke social chaos, and bring about a military coup.... A CIA cable outlined the objectives clearly to the station chief in Santiago: 'It is firm and continuing policy that Allende be overthrown by a coup.... We are to continue to generate maximum pressure toward this end utilizing every appropriate resource. It is imperative that these actions be implemented clandestinely and securely so that United States Government and American hand be well hidden."
No ordinary citizen of the United States knew anything about these machinations. The coup d'etat took place on September 11, 1973, resulting in the suicide of Allende and the seizure of power by General Augusto Pinochet, whose military and civilian supporters in their seventeen years in power tortured, killed, or "disappeared" some four thousand people. Pinochet was an active collaborator in Operation Condor, a joint mission with the Argentine militarists to murder exiled dissidents in the United States, Spain, Italy, and elsewhere. This is why, when Pinochet traveled to England in the autumn of 1998 for medical treatment, Spain tried to extradite him to stand trial for genocide, torture, and state terrorism against Spanish citizens. On October 16, 1998, the British police arrested Pinochet in London and held him pending his possible extradition. Although few Americans were affected by this covert operation, people around the world now know of the American involvement and were deeply cynical when Secretary of State Madeleine Albright opposed Pinochet's extradition, claiming that countries like Chile undertaking a "transition to democracy" must be allowed to guarantee immunity from prosecution to past human rights offenders in order to "move forward." America's "dirty hands" make even the most well-intentioned statement ~ about human rights or terrorism seem hypocritical in such circumstances. Even when blowback mostly strikes other peoples, it has its corrosive effects on the United States by debasing political discourse and making citizens feel duped if they should happen to take seriously what their political leaders say. This is an inevitable consequence not just of blowback but of empire itself.
What, then, of the very idea of an American empire or, for that matter, American imperialism? "Hegemony," "empire," and "imperialism" have often been used as epithets or fighting words. They lie at the heart of Marx's and, especially, Lenin's condemnation of capitalism. During the Cold War, Communists asserted that imperialism was one of the "contradictions" of capitalism and hence a root cause of class struggle, revolution, and war. However, the terms also evoke images of the Roman and British empires, as well as of the Pax Romana and the Pax Britannica that were said to have accompanied them. Imperialism is further associated with the racism and exploitation that accompanied European, American, and Japanese colonialism in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries and with the violent reactions to it that dominated the non-Western world in the wake of the Second World War. In 1917, the Soviet Union inherited an older czarist empire in Europe and central Asia, a multinational union of peoples based on conquest and a particular civilization ... [the] seven "people's democracies" in Eastern Europe that formed the heart of the Communist camp until its collapse in 1989: East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Albania, and Bulgaria. Its American equivalent was not NATO ... but the system of satellites the United States created in East Asia. These included at one time regimes in Japan, South Korea, Thailand, South Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Philippines, and Taiwan.
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Over time, and with the development of a nuclear arms race between the United States and the USSR, the two empires based on satellite regimes created after World War 11 expanded into much more extensive alignments based on ideology, economic interactions, technology transfers, mutual benefit, and military cooperation. For the Soviet Union this was the world that for a brief moment during the 1950s stretched from Moscow to Hanoi in the east and to Havana in the west and that even included, at least formally, China. For the United States it came to include most of the rest of the world-places where the United States assumed responsibility for maintaining some ill-defined "favorable" military environment (what the Pentagon now likes to call "stability") and where we insisted on free access for our multinational corporations and financiers (what our economists now call "globalization"). Unlike in Europe, the main Cold War conflicts in East and Southeast Asia were not between democracy and totalitarianism but between European colonialism and national independence movements. The reluctance of the main European powers to give up their colonies led to wars of national liberation in Indochina against the French, in Malaya against the British, and in Indonesia against the Dutch, in all of which the United States supported the side of imperialism. The Dutch were finally driven from Indonesia; the British, after a decade-long war, finally acquiesced in Malaya's independence, followed by its becoming two independent countries, Malaysia and Singapore. After the French were defeated militarily in Vietnam, the United States fought an incredibly bloody and prolonged conflict before it, too, was forced to abandon its imperial role there. The United States also supported a long counterinsurgency struggle in the Philippines against a guerrilla movement that considered the post-independence Filipino government a creature of the Americans. Only after our defeat in Vietnam did we begin to adjust to the idea that East Asia was different from Europe...South Korea has been occupied by American forces virtually continuously since the end of World War II. It was the scene of the most important armed conflict of the early Cold War years, the place where the United States and China fought each other to a standstill and froze relations with each other for two decades. Thanks to the United States and the Soviet Union, which in 1945 divided the country for their own convenience, a half century later Korea remains the last place on earth whose borders are determined by where the armies of World War 11 stopped. South Korea's rise during the 1960s as a "miracle economy" and its spectacular financial collapse of 1997 were directly related to its status as a satellite of the United States.
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