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I support Ed and Elaine Brown, a couple who have been convicted of tax evasion by the government of the United States.
The Browns are right, and their refusal to pay income tax is not only right, but legal.
In fact, the taxes that the Browns are being forced to pay is illegal.
Let me begin.
There are many forms of taxation.
Property, excise, sales, and income are just a few of the commodities that are taxed in the United States.
Of those, income tax is a tax that is based on earnings, with a certain percent going to tax.
Until 1913, there was no such thing as an income tax.
At that time, Congress brought forth the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the federal income tax amendment, which was allegedly ratified in 1913.
To ratify the 16th Amendment, at least 3/4 or 36 of the states had to approve the amendment.
There were 48 states at that time.
Of those 48 states, only two actually ratified the 16th amendment, and those same two may not have done so legally.
In other words, the 16th amendment giving the government the right to tax income, was never made legal.
To put this into more simple terms, it is illegal to collect income tax.
It has been illegal since 1913.
The government has no right to make you pay an income tax.
In fact, it is theft.
In 1913, Secretary of State Philander Knox announced ratification by 38 states, but among those same 38 states, there is absolute proof that:
The Kentucky Senate voted down the resolution by a 22 to 9 vote.
The California legislative assembly never recorded any vote to ratify the 16th amendment.
The State of Minnesota sent nothing to the Secretary of State in Washington.
The California legislative assembly never recorded any votes which means that no one knows how California voted, if it even voted at all.
This all means that the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was never ratified, meaning it was never approved.
So the U.S. Government never had the legal right to collect income tax from its people.
This means that Ed and Elaine Brown are right in refusing to pay this tax, and the government is wrong.
I am in complete support of them!
If you are as well, please sign this petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/ta...3/ petition.html

Thank you.
George Vreeland Hill
George Vreeland Hill | 07.20.07 - 1:14 am | #

Hello all: Even though i critisize Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Mike Rivero on a lot of issues. I congratulate them, and praise them on other issues. For example: I went to a jewisih blogger the other day, where average jews (I MEAN NOT ZIONISTS) but average Israeli citizens, and i got so sick, that i didn't even have the energies left to write Michael Rivero wrh@whatreallyhappened.com to tell him about what i read in that Israeli blogger. Most israelis there bragged about how good Israelis should feel because they are a superior-race. They claimed that they are whiter than arabs, smarter than arabs, with bigger and higher IQs and different physique, and that's why they are a chosen nation (When in truth as you all know the Israel of the Bible means workers and poor people) not the Israel-1948 Fascist state founded by Imperialist Nations). This is just to show you that Alex Jones, Rense, and other conspiracy intellectual theorists are OBJECTIVE, SCIENTIFIC, AND TRUE ON BEING ANTI-ZIONISM !!!!!!!!
Juan Carlos Cruz | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 2:16 pm | #

What about the ring Arnold has on? Isn't that clearly a mason ring?? Can someone do a close up on the ring?
mondo | Homepage | 07.01.07 - 9:21 am | #

There is a rather academic argument to be made that the "crushed" death's head used by Germans for centuries was not a "Nazi" totenkopf. It was the badge of the cavalry, signifying heroic youthful recklessness and often bearing the motto "Death or Glory." When the uniform and regalia obsessed National Socialists were putting uniforms together they gave the SS the prestigious badge of the traditional armed forces branch of the upper classes because of the status they foresaw for the SS, not necessarily because of overt fetishizing of death, which would of couse be quite true of several other formations that never wore a totenkopf!
kei & yuri | 06.25.07 - 11:36 pm | #

I have better idea for boy Georgies 61st birthday..deliver the bodies of 61 mutilated dead soldiers from Iraq war to White House..HAPPY BIRTHDAY murderer
randy | 06.23.07 - 10:38 am | #

As usual the US Media gives bit and pieces of fact while omitting important information. They fail to mention in this piece that not only was Randy Weaver's son Sammy murdered by a BATF agent, but his wife Vicki was also shot through the head and killed instantly while she clutched her baby girl in her arms. Vicki was unarmed at the time and standing within the privacy of her home -- clearly no threat to anyone.

The FBI sniper who murdered her broke the FBI's rules of engagement yet was never tried for her murder as a judge ruled that he should have been.

Federal Marshal Monier is clearly lying to the public about not wanting to attack the Brown's.

The Brown's would have been dead already if their dog walker had not been shot at which alerted the Brown's to the fact that the FEDS had indeed illegally entered their property.

What we have playing out in Plainfield, New Hampshire at the present time is another Waco or Ruby Ridge in the making.

Americans need to pay very close attention to this situation, since the Brown's were found guilty of a non crime. There is no law authoriziing the IRS to collect federal income taxes and there never has been. It has been operating illegally for the past 94 years.

See Aaron Russo's superb documentary on this situation which is entited: American From Freedom To Fascism. You can see it for free on Google Video.

See it today.

Jim
James F. Marino | Homepage | 06.22.07 - 3:17 pm | #

The Totenkopf symbol dates back to Frederick the Great and the 18th century. Yes, it was probably a poor choice, but it doesn't mean anything insidious.

I realize this site's very existance is based on jumping to conclusions, but perhaps next time you'll do your research first
Phoenix Dark | 06.22.07 - 3:23 am | #

Hello, stupid people.

I am not gone, just on a break.

jbrid, did you get your foil hat from Gabe? I hear he has plenty of them.

LOL, retards
I See Stupid People | 06.21.07 - 1:18 pm | #

Here's a little something I think might be of interest to both religious thought as well as you UFO non-believers // taken right from the Holy Bible, King James Version:

(NOTE; Pay special attention to EZEKIEL (below) quoted only in part for easy read) --

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the SONS OF GOD CAME IN UNTO THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
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2 Kings 2:10 ***behold, there APPEARED A CHARIOT OF FIRE, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder, and Elijah WENT UP by a whirlwind into heaven.
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2 Kings 6:17 *** and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and CHARIOTS OF FIRE round about Elisha.
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2 Samuel 22:7 ***And he rode upon a cherub, and DID FLY and he was SEEN UPON THE WINGS of the wind***and THICK CLOUDS of the skies. Through the brightness before him were coals of FIRE kindled.
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Ezekiel 1:15 Now as I BEHELD the living CREATUES, behold one WHEEL upon the earth BY the living creatures, with four faces. The appearance of the WHEELS and THEIR WORK was like unto the colour of a BERYL(*) and they four had one likeness, and their appearance and their work was as it were a WHEEL IN THE MIDDLE OF A WHEEL***As for their RINGS, they were so HIGH that they were dreadful, and their RINGS WERE FULL OF EYES ROUND ABOUT THEM four. And when the LIVING CREATURES WENT, the WHEELS WENT BY THEM, and when the living creatures WERE LIFTED UP FROM THE EARTH, THE WHEELS WERE LIFTED UP.
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*beryl (Wesbter's Dictionary): A mineral composed chiefly of beryllium (etc) ...

beryllium (Webster's Dictionary): A lightweight, corrosion-resistant, rigid, steel-gray METALLIC element.
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>>>US has been controlling Israel since at least 1948...

Declassified "FIRECRACKER" document reveals the threats and desires of US to force Israel into not accepting the Abullah/UK peace accord between Jewish and Arab Palestinian land.
It seems that our current policy of threats and intimmidation (also murder of peaceful Israeli PM), may have originated from this new FIRECRACKER document...

Prior to the Firecracker document, there was at least 3 years of peace efforts to halt any further terrorism against palestinians and recognition of the suffering the jews had from nazi policies:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1
Here was the 15 page top secret document from the US explaining that they had overall command and control of the Israel/Palestinian situation due to security risks to the US if communism were to infiltrate the area (vietnam anyone???)
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/ whi...ollectionid=ROI
David K. Niles' notes of Dean Rusk's comments about the recognition of Israel
Note: Niles wanted US to move forward with the UK plan to allow each people to have their own official state. Warmongering secretary of state Dean Rusk said that the US sould only allow "truteeship" to the land and not allow each people to govern their own land. Rusk was determined to defeat the peace accord by UK/Arab nations/Palestiniansd and Jews in the area
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/ whi...ollectionid=ROI
Then the tensions rise when a NY councilman with mob ties to Abner Zwillman lays on the guilt:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1
However, Truman seems in agreement with the British Palestinian Accord on May 11th 1948
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/ whi...ollectionid=ROI

Needing to act quickly, the real military industrial complex hawks get into action with this "FIRECRACKER" document:
Alternatives of how to make peace between the Arabs and the Jews in Palestine, May 11, 1948

Page One has Lovett (outgoing secretary of defense in 1952) telling Clark Clifford (incoming Secretary of Defense 1952 - Harriman set him up) not to show it to anyone:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1

Then page 3-6 reads like PNAC/AEI wrote it...
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
fear...
We need to control the area....
They are working around us with peace deals
should we blockade...
they are getting weapons from elsewhere other than US...
should we intervene...
this could represent the greatest threat to our national security (sound familiar?)...

For those of you who do not know, Lovett worked with Bush Sr. in terror campaigns in the middle east and south america. Lovett is one of the pioneers in Middle East and South America false flag initiatives (as well as Gladio and others). This document gives a little more info to understand why after 50 years, teo types of people who have lived in peace for at least 1,000 years have been continually fighting. The Jews and Arabs lived together for at least 1,000 years without the problems we have seen for the past 50 years.

If you look at our support of Sunni/Shia tension to create more arms sales (Iran/Contra-now Al-Qaeda/Iran/Hamas funding), we may have an awakening. We may wake up to realize that black ops authority within our foreign policy directives have not only started the Jewish/Arab conflicts, they have made them exponentially worse.

For more of the declassified documents, go here:

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...d=ROI& pagenumbe
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Commence bombing ...

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Yup Prescott's Final Solution COINTELPRO agents [actually only one with 10 different nicks]. They are forced to bubble up the anti-semitic rhetoric so that when Cheney's next false flag terror attack goes off, jews can be blamed this time (instead of Arabs last time). They will be taken by train to the 600 concentration camps that Halliburton/Cheney is building. They figure do the concentration camp thing with a race that is used to it.

These COINTELPRO agents continue to pass on statements that make the "one-race" connection just like they did with the Arab/Osama bin Laden connection. It worked before, they usually stick with things that have worked. Cheney will set off at least 5 more false flag incidents in Israel (kidnapping, suicide bomber, US trained insurgent, others). Israeli pilots will be sent in to attack innocents, 75% will refuse to fire, but 25% discharge of US depleated uranium shells is enough to continue the distraction from the over 1,000,000 innocent deaths caused by cheney.

Why do you think people post with no references, no logic, cut and paste other people's quotes to fit their agenda, use multiple nicks as if there was more than one agent? This is COINTELPRO all the way. They convinced many that if they connected semites with 911 then people would stop asking questions. This allowed many in the know about 911 to agree to blame the jews (even murdoch and redstone).

But the real plan is unfolding as continued rhetoric blames one race even after the cat is out of the bag that 9/11 was an inside job.

So the plan is now revealed...
1. Do 911
2. Overpursue Arabs (just like overpursuing jews allowed israel alone to be a country when the plan was for both israel and palestine to exist in 1948 )
3. As the truth comes out that the arabs did not do it, find another scapegoat race quickly before the barbarians get too close to the truth.
4. Link all the puppets that are in that race (not the masters or other puppets who have different races) to the incident.
5. Leek info about false flags blaming only one race as if they invented false flags.

It is essential to present one race as being the main culprit. This follows all of Illuminati's standard game plans:
-KKK
-German Nazi Party
-Anti American Indian Group
-Modern Neo Nazi
-Al-Qaeda
-Zionists
-Nation of Islam (elijah muhammed)

Of course this is only a veil that hides the true interest of total enslavement and control by illuminati and NWO.

Same formula with interchangeable races.

Make sure to take out all your gold fillings so that they don't rip your teeth out on the trains or at the COncentration I mean FEMA Halliburton Cheney Death Camps...
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=12471#88108
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=12471#88107
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=12471#88106

Why do you think MSNBC runs 4 hours of "lock-up" every night...

So you can see your future and when it becomes the present, you will think it is normal.

WAKE UP!
sane | Homepage | 06.21.07 - 2:16 am | #

use of web2 0 in military operations 190p 2006
http://www.scribd.com/doc/122286...tions-190p- 2006
sane | Homepage | 06.21.07 - 2:07 am | #

Awaiting more jew-bashing mind-controlled double-speak.....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 11:29 pm | #

And if you are going to tell me it is the Khazars, then I guess you should begin rounding people up based on race specific indicators.....

And how can mere race be the issue??

The only issue here is "evil"....
And it comes in all shapes, sizes, and colors.....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 11:28 pm | #

Anyone wanna try answering the simple question, what do you mean by saying "JEW" over and over??

If you are not going to be specific, you are really doing us a disservice. How can you expect us to get the ovens ready?? Furthermore, most people don't go around saying they are members of the Illuminati. So obviously it would be quite frivolous for our inditements to do any real damage to them as a whole apart from going after their "activities" and educating the public. However, your continual broad-brushing of "JEWS" is very RECKLESS and will lead to the savage killing of innocent JEWS. Unless of course you really believe there are none that are innocent.

Please do let us know so we can quote you from now on....
How you gonna manage getting all the "good" JEWS out of the ovens when your RECKLESS remarks about JEWS are generally and broadly applied nearly every time you speak of "JEWS"???
YOU should use a caveat each and every time you try to indite the entire race and religion. Otherwise, you are just inciting hatred and violence and playing right into Biblical prophecy. But perhaps that is your real motive anyway....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:30 pm | #

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Besides, this was already addressed by Revelation chapter 2:9.
Read it. It describes those who say they are Jew and are NOT, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Sounds to me like your "real" problem is Satan, not JEWS!!

Again,
We face two very real threats:
1) The threat of "real" terrorism as a result of the current and not so current policy of stirring shit up in the Middle East.
2) The even "bigger" threat of the power hungry elitist oligarchy using the threat of terrorism to leverage their own power base and grow it in the face of an extorted population.

And, you can include using hatred directed at "JEWs" as leverage against a misguided public to further stimulate the BEAST system into action.

And no it is not a vast JEWISH CONSPIRACY!!
Because if it were, we'd be operating by the laws of GOD and not secular humanist politics.... That is the true definition of a Jew. And that is what you hate. But try and find the truth in you own reprobate minds. And you will end up with the New World Order. The same thing you pretend to despise.

What a joke!

Now. Ignore the double-speak mind-control of the jew-bashers who even stoop so low as to enshroud themselves in the company of scripture and pretend to be what they are not.

Scroll on....

Here is the truth. Read it and weap.

And the lake of fire (all consuming) burning or not, is the lake of truth that will cast judgement on the wicked and the ungodly for all eternity, and they shall be removed from the presence of God - which is "Life" and "Love" (and the both more abundantly and eternally)..... Forever and ever......AMEN.

~REGARDING THE HYSTERIA OVER "JEWS" AND THE ZIONIST PLOT~
Can anyone see that this 9-11 truth is being divided "right now" into two prevailing camps? One that looks at it from pure Zionist agenda and the other that sees the Illuminati orchestrating the Zionists among other NWO factions? The division will grow worse and worse until finally those who helped expose this system for what it is will be branded, labeled, and rounded up along with the religious zealots.

Those of you who are so busy implicating the Jews never seem to get it. A real "Jew" has nothing to due with corruption and evil which you portray. Your description of such betrays the very essence of what it means to be "JEW"! You may as well be talking about fanciful creatures in some mythical land of harpies and unicorns. You begin by making this distinction at first (if we are lucky), but ultimately you are fundamentally at ease with making NO such distinction between those who pretend and those who genuinely fit the description of "JEW" once you've settled in and gotten comfortable. You will regret this one day. Perhaps these same "Jews" would have rescued you in your time of need. And believe me, that time is coming.

You see. They imagine they have all their bases covered (so they think). They can blame WWIII on Muslims and Christians (mainstream Christianity essentially co-opted by Bush and Co. who claims Jesus is central figure in personal life). And they can further blame the whole orchestration of world tyranny on the "JEWS", since according to the other half of 9-11 truth - JEWS are the "real" problem.... PERFECT HIT PIECE FOR SATAN. LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES.....

AND THEN THEY WILL FULFILL THE PROPHECIES OF THE BIBLE, THAT EVIDENTLY THEY HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF, OR THEY WOULD NOT CONTINUE IN VAIN FULFILLING THEM ONE BY ONE....

AND ONE DAY THEY WILL GATHER IN THE VALLEY FOR THEIR ARMEGEDDON WHICH THEY PRETEND TO THWART EVEN NOW AS THEY ATTACK THE VERY PEOPLE WHO WOULD LEAD THEM TO TRUE PEACE.....

To them, there is a "Jew" under every rock......And they will leave no stone unturned looking for "JEWS"!
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 11:26 pm | #

Coming Soon to a Mall Near You: Dadullah’s “Suicide Bomber” Grads

Kurt Nimmo
Tuesday June 19, 2007
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Hey Kurt Prpoganda Nimmo...

Didn't you mean CIA suicide schools.
cop-KILLA | 06.20.07 - 7:26 pm | #

Meet Bush's World Bank Nominee - PNAC Member, Bilderberg Attendee, CFR Member, Trilateral Commission Member, NAFTA Architect and Enron Advisor Robert Zoellick: Steve Watson PP.

“Like Wolfowitz, Zoellick is a Globalist all rounder and a member of the hawkish neo-conservative think tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC), who pushed hard to invoke the notion that evil foreign enemies who hated America, should be preemptively dealt with.”

Podhoretz like Wolfowitz and Zoellick is a Jew and a warmonger who believes that, "…the plain and brutal truth is that if Iran is to be prevented from developing a nuclear arsenal, there is no alternative to the actual use of military force. Since a ground invasion of Iran must be ruled out for many different reasons, the job would have to be done, by a campaign of air strikes."

"President George W Bush has given the CIA approval to launch covert "black" operations to achieve regime change in Iran, intelligence sources have revealed. Mr Bush has signed an official document endorsing CIA plans for a propaganda and disinformation campaign intended to destabilize, and eventually topple, the theocratic rule of the mullahs."PP.com

In 1978 Saddam Hussein declared that the eastern bank up to high ground above the waterline on The Shat al Arab Waterway, would be the new Iran Iraq border. Hitherto the borders of both countries terminated at high ground either side of the waterway, the Marsh Arabs who dwelt in the delta had citizenship of both countries. The ensuing war had biblical dimensions with a USS Liberty style Iraqi attack on a US warship that left some twenty five sailors dead, and the US downing of an Iranian airliner with pilgrims bound for Mecca, the aircraft was flying on a scheduled flight on a well traveled route, and had entered airspace above a US cruiser which fired a surface to air missile, all on board died.

So now in 2007 they are gonna be shocked and awed… I don’t think so.

Every man woman and child will use shoulder fired anti aircraft rockets to blast the planes out of the sky. Anti ship missiles should send the aircraft carriers to the bottom. Then under the rules of war and in response to US aggression, the mainland USA would be a legitimate target.

GWB: US forces are seriously over stretched in the region now… The Jews did 911… It’s probably not wise to go yelling out about it at the White House but they did… they also stole the money from the pentagon in a sting that got buried under 911, which was from their point of view a massive and enormously profitable insurance fraud… Now they want you to deploy the last reserves of American manpower into the region to witness nuked into oblivion, by Israel supplied nuclear weapons, which armchair strategists all over the world will tell you proliferate in the region… As well as that the wogs are about the most treacherous people on the face of the Earth… In Pakistan political rivals routinely set each other up on phony capital charges… Vale President Bhutto, father of Benhazir Bhutto, who was herself ousted from high government position for taking bribes from arms companies, Israel that is. Iran and Iraq were both toppled in various staged public events, that used the same language and tapped into the same emotional base that keeps football clubs on the road. They want you to enter a vast trap.

Look out for trouble like in the schools in Amish county and Virginia Tech, while the communities menfolk are away fighting the interminable wars, started by the Zionazi for their own ends. Look at genocide abortion, check the statistics then check the relationship between African and European America, check the illegal immigrants… Not according to them are they illegal, simply returning to the homelands stolen by European settlers is their response. Conflict between Hispanic and European communities is best expressed by the Hispanic cop who put three slugs into and killed, an Ivy League type white boy in San Diego. Seek that vid on utube or Google. Have another look at the foreign troops on US soil and the Somali’s in Canada, death squads landed by chopper simultaneously at ten thousand schools would within hours put paid to European dominance on the North American mainland... Picture Israel nuking American cities.
Fard El Kalb, The Destroyer | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 7:15 pm | #

Negroponte Exposed as Terrorist: PJW at PP reports that recent bombings of civilian targets in Iraq are at the behest of John Negroponte, US Deputy Secretary of State. A similar bombing has now left dozens dead and scores injured in Afghanistan.

Murdoch and Co will have you believe an internecine struggle between Shia and Sunni sects within the Moslem infrastructure of Iraq, supported on the Shia side by Iran attempting to establish hegemony in the area, is at the heart of the problem. That is total BS.

Iraqi’s Accuse U.S. Of Bombing al-Askari Shrine in Samarra,: Both Sunnis and Shia say bombing a plot to incite sectarian violence. SW PP June 13 2007. …the site has been heavily guarded by about 60 Federal Protection Service forces and 25 local Iraqi police and closed to the public since it was attacked last year in a bombing which many also believed to be the work of US forces. …The explosion took place this morning under two minarets in a very similar way to the Golden Dome bombing more than a year ago. …Just this week it was revealed that the US is arming its own cadre of Sunni insurgents in Iraq.

Scott Makufka and Victor Thorn are one, photo’s reveal a Stetson wearing dude up front on the dais at 911 meets, he resembles Jack Abramov and the headware is said to be in response to his self image as an orthodox Jew. Picture Makufka Thorn is Mossad boss in North America and coordinator of all Mossad ops on the mainland, including 911. He arranged Bollyn’s high level meetings in Israel, wherein the Odigo revelations detailing the four thousand Jews who had the day off on 911, and Jew investment in put options emerged. He’s chief spammer on this site. himself the others are Makufka Thorn dummies.

I think that we should love and support the people of the Jewish race, who are victims of propaganda. They are just normal folk like you and me. Don't buy into the "hate the Jews" crap. Get to know some Jewish people. Make friends. Love them. Gabriel Alan King | 05.26.07 - 4:49 am | #

Seems the Jew friends of those killed at the WTC on 911, after bidding them a fine and friendly farewell on the Monday evening. Stayed away from work the next day aware that the attacks were to happen, then watched their immolation live on TV... That’s why I hate the sonsa bitches… What have y’all got to say about that, pukebelly gak.

When are y’all Jews gonna get involved with Katherine Schweitzer’s murder… No to vivisection!!
Enzo | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 7:12 pm | #

My record is OK I dislike clichés but you can not make an omelet without breaking eggs. I perceive Israel as guilty both of perpetrating the Holocaust and causing both world wars, and see the Ashkenazi as a marauding tribe from the steppes of Asia, and 911 as only one of a series of outrages ultimately traceable to Zionist Ashkenazi interests. Which I separate from Jewish interests.

I express that as best I can. MT

There's Jews hiding everywhere! I just found one in my closet. At first, he tried to tell me he wasn't a Jew. But I found a hardcopy of the "Talmud" on him, pocket edition. So I got out the halogen lights and waterboarded him until he confessed! Gabriel Alan King | 05.26.07 - 9:33 pm | #

There will be guilty hiding everywhere, when an identity is proven, checked with bonded Justice Department records, and matched to an investor in any of the Mossad run, Zionazi inspired schemes identified by the Securities and Investments people as having been in place, and made profits aware that the attacks were to happen They will be arrested, then tried in a court of capital jurisdiction, then hanged. Going by the evidence I would expect quite a number of Jew executions. Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 05.28.07 - 3:25 pm | #

"Checked with bonded Justice Department records" - I have a faint idea this is reference to some "hidden" documents that show who really did 9-11... Care to retort??? sane | 05.28.07 - 4:11 pm | #

As prosecutions take place and as executions begin, voluntary testimony made by persons who will be subsequently executed will be bonded by The Justice Department, and will remain valid evidence in a court of law.

Thus women admitting that they conspired with such and such a doctor at such and such a clinic to commit abortion child murder, will of course be executed, later down the track when the doctor is located, his record as an employee at such and such a clinic will be presented to the court along with the bonded evidence of the by then dead women. Bonded evidence that will result in a great many execution deaths.

Jonbenet Ramsay appears nude in highly revealing photo spreads on internet porn sites. She was sexually assaulted and murdered during the 1990’s her father reported discovering her body at home, he has since used court judgments obtained by high priced lawyers to avoid providing a DNA sample.

Update: The photos all appear to have been taken during the same session, the latest to appear is a poor quality video of her engaging in sexual intercourse with a male person 5’ 8”, aged late thirties to early forties, little fat, semi muscular build, medium length thinning dark hair. Likely her father, alleging her death took place during this session, he filmed the event and posted the footage on the internet. Shame on the FBI.

It is my belief Semites control internet porn. If Miss Ramsay’s photographs were taken the day she was murdered and some Jew webmaster has been peddling pictures or movies of the event, and the whole conspiracy were to be prosecuted in a court of capital jurisdiction, the death toll could be horrendous.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 7:09 pm | #

My understanding has been the Ashkenazi Jews who are not necessarily recognized as Jews at all, since Their origins reside among a Central Asian tribe called the Khazars, who converted to the Jewish faith from about 740 AD. Usurped the function of Judah by using their numbers, firstly to infiltrate the traditional or Sephardic congregations and Synagogues that they encountered. Then to push the line subsequently called Zionism, that a political state should be established in Palestine, despite the fact that the formation of such a state is forbidden in Jewish Law, unless it be established by The Messiah.

And as well as genocide against the Palestinians from 1948 continuing until the present day, they are prepared to kill any and all who oppose them. Vale Katherine Schweitzer, and the Koestler's husband and wife. The victims gassed in the Nazi death chambers would have been those Jews who opposed Zionism whether Ashkenazi or not.

Kobi Alexander was one of the owners and developers of Odigo software which allowed Israelis to communicate instantly on 9/11. It was via the "buddy system" on Odigo software, which allows one to communicate to a large group of people that share a trait, such as the Hebrew language, that thousands of Israelis were warned not to go to the twin towers on 9/11.
Enzo | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 7:07 pm | #

The Pharisees caused their own people to be gassed in the millions during WW2, only some Jews were gassed... Witness Moshe Dyan Kaplan’s testimony re his Amsterdam family emerging unscathed, his claim to be a Pharisee and his contempt for those Jews who were gassed, Cheesies he called them since their diet consisted largely of that product. He said they had been gassed at Auschwitz, and indicated that as far as he was concerned they were neither missed nor mourned.

And the testimony of Katherine Schweitzer a Hungarian Jewish lady from Budapest, she was last seen alive 22 December 2006 she went public re her whole family being arrested in 1944 by a Jew member of Horsha, the Hungarian thug police, and deported to Auschwitz. Only she survived that place, she said on TV that the Jew who arrested her was living a few doors up on the same street in Sydney.

We say that Katherine Schweitzer by Jew elements in reprisal for telling the truth, after I had published the above story on November 30 2006, concerned her testimony would encourage other survivors of the so called Holocaust to do the same. And to warn any other Jews who want the truth to come out just what the consequences will be. Maybe Fritz-Harry Cremer is a Mossad agent and perhaps he talked his way into her apartment and murdered her. It would be a perfect way for Jewish community to demonstrate cooperation with broader society by assisting to prosecute this matter. Israeli sources should have information on of Fritz-Harry Cremer for instance.

Benjamin Freedman, writes that The Talmud is a relatively modern document, the references he quotes must be seen as endorsing hatred against the Christian community. Arthur Koestler’s famous book The Thirteenth Tribe, appears to confirm Freedman’s assertion that much of the worldly strife in the past several hundreds of years, is the result of friction between the Khazar people of Eastern Europe who converted to Judaism in 740 AD. And the Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of Abraham and indigenous to the Middle East. Koestler and his wife both appear to have been murdered shortly after the publication of that book.

G. Neuburger… Thus physical violence is not a tradition or a value of the Jews. The task for which the Jewish people were chosen is not to set an example of military superiority or technical achievements, but to seek perfection in moral behavior and spiritual purity. Of all the crimes of political Zionism, the worst and most basic, and which explains all its other misdeeds, is that from its beginning Zionism has sought to separate the Jewish people from their G-d, to render the divine covenant null and void, and to substitute a "modern" statehood and fraudulent sovereignty for the lofty ideals of the Jewish people.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 7:03 pm | #

Readers will be familiar with my claim to have been dead, to have returned from death after having met Jesus and Alexander The Great… that Allah called me, and that I toured Hell. All true. So when I was about fourteen he tells me he has chosen me as his messenger, when I key this stuff in he leads me. The following is from a publication titled Sword of Islam, which I produced from about 1995 till 2001 and distributed by hand, then put on the net in 2004.

Neil Brinleigh Williams is called The Beast because of his brutal strength, his inhuman tolerance to pain, and because of monstrous acts of violence he is reputed to have carried out. He is not a bad man, one might argue brutal strength is useful aboard ship where the Docker earns his bread, tolerance to pain must be a matter of pride, and suppose he should say that such violence as occurred was in self defense. The reformed FSPDU policy is that members provide evidence of their membership, thus baseball hats and hardhat stickers featuring the members union number are in use, thus number 1 is Martin Timothy, while the number of The Beast is 666. Thus Martin Timothy fulfils the prophesy of The Antichrist.

The 1997 edition of SOI is reproduced in full at http://www.dockersunion.com >Journals >1997 >The Antichrist Edition. Re Drugs >Marijuana >Bible >Genesis >plants_bearing_seeds_lawful.

Go to Homepage for a true chronicle of Hell.
Martin Timothy | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 6:59 pm | #

9-11 The Explosive Reality: Blockbuster video with essential WTC 6 evidence... Missile at 5m 50 sec... Dense dust and smoke rising from ground level, identified as fallout from the missile explosion, both towers are still visible in the background at 15:46... An official refusing the construction industry’s Emergency Response Group access to Building seven, keeping them waiting all day till the building collapsed… reports of bodies strewn about in Bldg 7… Most alarming of all, a man with a strong Serbo-Croatian accent helmeted, in a green military uniform blocked a news television camera with his hand, and told the reporter that the tower was coming down, and said "...nothing informations." at 1 hr 09 min. A foreign mercenary soldier on the street in New York the day the WTC came down...

The shots of the Pentagon taken immediately after impact and before the damaged facade had collapsed, showed a hole about the size of a suburban garage... No sign of a plane at all. And no trace of a plane in Pennsylvania, despite continuing assertion that The Happy Schmooligans blasted one out of the sky, plenty of paper strewn across the landscape and burn marks in the trees, but no plane.

Flight 93 was reported by 9 News landing in Cleveland Hopkins Airport & confirmed by U.S. Airlines... "A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White. White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated. United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did not say how many people were aboard the flight."
Darryl Van Horn | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 6:50 pm | #

Christopher Bollyn: …A massive explosion devastated World Trade Center 6, the eight-story U.S. Customs building, the unexplained blast occurred between the burning North Tower and the 47-story Salomon Brothers Building, known as WTC 7, immediately after United Airlines Flight 175 smashed into the South Tower, at about 9:03 a.m.

Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower, is believed to be a Tomahawk Cruise Missile which impacted WTC 6 moments later… Most visible at this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...related& search=

…as the second jet rammed its target, ‘…That was an explosion,’ says Stephen McArdle a tax consultant, from inside the Marriot Hotel, he was taping as part of an FBI sting operation. …Then comes a longer and much louder explosion. Greg Smith 2002. The second explosion is in fact the detonation of the missile’s warhead…

This is the Jew response: “…Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower...” Aw crap. 1984 | 06.13.07 - 10:31 pm | #

Jack White’s 911 Studies: The South Tower was hit at 9:03, at 9:04 CNN televised a significant explosion between the North Tower and Building 7 the location of WTC 6, the 8-Story Customs House… Photo: a pyroclastic cloud in an inner city environment, caption… while onlookers were distracted by the events at skyscraper level, moments after the second plane hit the South Tower, WTC 6 was torn apart by a massive explosion. The crater in the building was eight stories deep, an immense hole blasted into the sub basements… all eight stories missing… no wreckage… blown away… Vaporized by the missiles thermonuclear warhead.

Dr. Gene Corley, one of the engineers who led the investigation, told AFP The Customs House had a huge crater in its center. Corley said he had not seen the photos of the extremely high-speed missile-like object seen streaking toward WTC 6 from behind the North Tower as the second plane hit the South Tower. He noted that parts of the plane’s landing gear and an engine passed through the South Tower, and landed several blocks away. These objects, however, had a distinctly different trajectory from the streaking missile-like object.
Orlando Hegel | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 6:46 pm | #

Super explosives that can withstand 800 degrees celsius without melting, auto-igniting or decomposing brought down WTC 7.
Passenger filled airline seats were attached to a missile and then the missile blows up in the E-ring. Then the missile reforms itself and smashes through the D-ring before lodging in the C-ring.
Completely believeable theories, ROFLMAO.
Carl Myers | 06.20.07 - 6:44 pm | #

A sixteen year old girl was reportedly beheaded for adultery in Iran recently. That is a corruption of the law...

Under Islamic law capital retribution is only demanded in cases of capital rape... read of gang rape by Lebanese civilians on the Streets of Sydney... Not when some crazy has taken it upon him or herself to prosecute death upon a family member who has fallen in love. Relationships out side of marriage are dealt with thus, from The Koran: “…let the adulterer and the adulteress both receive a hundred lashes.” Jesus was conceived in one such union.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 6:35 pm | #

AFP reports that certain Jews in the government not only tried to cover up Israeli involvement in the attacks, but also have ties to Israeli intelligence. From the very morning aircraft smashed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, news reports have indicated Israeli intelligence was involved. The mechanism that planted 'false flag' evidence like an alleged hijackers passport recovered intact adjacent to the WTC site, was in place and ready firstly to blame alleged Arab terrorists, then to both ignore vital and obvious evidence re the report of the forty seven storey Salomon Brothers building collapsing some minutes prior to the collapse of building seven, and to mold public opinion via the Murdoch media empire to support the pre-planned war on terror.

On his Web site, Israel Shamir writes: "There is no case to presume existence of Islamic Terror at all, until we come to 9/11, when President Bush proclaimed its existence and announced the World Wide Muslim Conspiracy of al Qaeeda. The perpetrators of the 9/11 are still unknown to us... On the other hand, there is an accumulating evidence of Israeli Connection. Israel utilized the 9/11 events to its full capacity: present massacre in the Palestinian cities is described as 'the war on terror'. The Muslim neighbors of Israel were terrorized into passivity by the American rage. Destruction of Afghanistan raised the threshold of the world sensitivity to horror, and made possible the present invasion of Palestinian cities."

Hamas is a tool of Israeli aggression against the Palestinian homeland, and is the aggressor in the present Palestinian conflict... The indigenous population of Palestine be they Jew, Christian, Moslem, or Druze must rise as one and pull the walls down and charge into the Israeli ranks, take as many into slavery as you can take alive, then tear down their buildings and smash their infrastructure.
Doug Messerschmitt | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 6:26 pm | #

Feel free to point out one, just one logical flaw in my posts… anti-Semitic monkeys in your head. I will be more than happy to respond. sane | 05.28.07.

"While no one knows for certain how many Jews were killed on Sept. 11, the most reliable estimates put the number at about 400. This despite the blasphemy spread in the Arab world that no Jews perished, having been warned by the Mossad agents who supposedly carried out the attacks." sane | 05.28.07 - 2:49 am | # >

Alon Pinkas, Israel's consul general confirmed that only three Israelis were killed in the 9-11-01 WTC attacks. Two Israelis were killed in the two planes which crashed into the towers, and one Israeli, who had been visiting one of the World Trade Center towers on business, was killed. Edward Hendrie.

“Feel free to point out one, just one logical flaw in my posts…” The number of Jew dead at the WTC was one… not four hundred…
Arturo | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 6:24 pm | #

Scroll down truthers... the spammers are Mossad agents who fill these forum boards with trash hoping to bury hard copy... The Jews did 911 for profit!

Bombs in Iraq… US Forces on killfest offensive… Hamas secured the occupied territories as their Israeli masters offend against the Palestinian homeland… Freddy Fatt cares, The Koran exhorts the faithful to hurl truth against falsehood… that’s what Freddy does… So where is everyone else… There were hundreds of thousands of witnesses to the 911 attacks Willie Rodriguez went public so where is everyone else… Who owned the cars that exploded on FDR Drive, who else saw the missile strike… It looks like a Tomahawk class cruise missile, taking a look at the damage to WTC 5 and 6 on high resolution photographs, it looks like multiple high speed thermonuclear warheads blast an opening, thru which goes the slower central armament with a larger thermonuclear device designed to get at the strategic target below. One concrete panel inside the devastated WTC 6 appears to be partially vaporized, a shallow concave surface defining the spherical dimension of the thermonuclear fusion.

All y’all out there… the whole place is gonna go to Hell in a handbasket, US forces on land and at sea are gonna be wiped out if they attack Iran, the paper money they print to pay their mercenary armies has so devalued the greenback that the real value is thought to be one US cent. The value will fall further as the carriers go to the bottom, then become meaningless as the armies that are already in place in the US are mobilized to attack the schools, and European dominance on the North American mainland is over.

Stir yourselves you all.

Agriculture, writing, and the domestication of animals all originated in the Tigris Euphrates region called Iraq, the tribes that have been located there since the time of Adam, are the Sunni. The Shia are every one else, the Sunni are often don’t do the manual chores, so they have been bringing in workers from other places for centuries, these workers do not usually attend Sunni mosques which are most often built and maintained by a single extended family. They usually attend to their religious affairs in Mosques that are located in working class areas of the city, that have become known as Shia Mosques. At no time has war or conflict between the two sectors of society been permitted, either under secular law or within the strictures of Islam, and all parties are aware that murder is met with speedy and deadly retaliation, according to the instruction in The Koran.

Murdoch and Co will have you believe an internecine struggle between Shia and Sunni sects within the Moslem infrastructure of Iraq, supported on the Shia side by Iran attempting to establish hegemony in the area, is at the heart of the problem. That is total BS.

PJW at PP reports that recent bombings of civilian targets in Iraq are at the behest of John Negroponte US Deputy Secretary of State. A similar bombing has now left dozens dead and scores injured in Afghanistan. Iraqi’s Accuse U.S. Of Bombing al-Askari Shrine in Samara,: Both Sunnis and Shia say the bombings are plot to incite sectarian violence.

C4 has been in the gruesome car bombings in Iraq. Asked about those and the dozens of civilian bodies that turn up daily, Iraqi Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani, laid responsibility for the deaths, including gruesome beheadings of civilians, at the feet of the unregulated force of one hundred and fifty thousand private security contractors. Fourteen thousand of whom are from Ahmad Chalabi’s Iraqi Free Forces, the remainder are from paramilitary forces with some of the worst human rights records in the world: South Africa, Colombia, Salvador, and Chile, and ex regular special forces from the United Kingdom, United States, Israel, Nepal, Fiji, and the Philippines. Beheadings, such as those seen in Iraq, are a hallmark of the Nepalese Gurkhas.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 6:23 pm | #

http://www.infowars.com/print/ nw...sive_arnold.htm

Some more (misc.) on ARNOLD:

***EXTRACT***
Wow, it really makes your head spin. This guy hangs out with former UN chiefs and the Rothschilds. His mother is married to the head of the Austrian Parliament and he is married to JFK's niece. Nevertheless, all his Nazi connections are swept under the rug and the Republican party could care less about Arnold's own published admissions of orgies, drug use, and posing naked for homosexual porno magazines.

(Well, after all, he is a member of the Bohemian Grove where group sex is par for the course.)

In a 1977 interview for OUI Magazine, published by Playboy, Arnold described to a national magazine how he and many other men all piled on one woman at Gold Gym's in Venice. When asked whether he used drugs, Schwarzenegger replied "yes, grass and hash." Schwarzenegger then went on to describe how posing for gay magazines was a great thing.

Can you imagine what would happen to an anti-establishment candidate if they had 10% of the baggage that Arnie does? They would be dragged through the mud and their political career would disintegrate. But if you are a water bearer for globalist's fat cats, you can do no wrong. Kurt Waldheim was a Nazi soaked in blood and the UN loved and defended him. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, received and gave awards to Adolf Hitler and was responsible for barbaric eugenic programs nationwide. But it's okay, because they work for the New World Order.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 5:22 pm | #

Sane I so love Queen.
UNITEDWEREFALLING | 06.20.07 - 5:17 pm | #

http://100777.com/node/1481 What is this?
UNITEDWEREFALLING | 06.20.07 - 5:09 pm | #

Ever since mention of that possible masonic ring on Arnold's finger -- I have been searching the web 'like crazy' trying to connect the two. Seems to be more than just a good possibility but so far nothing to report that is 100-percent.

Lots of stuff out there that's for sure.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 5:04 pm | #

NYT delves into Rupert Murdoch empire.

“The New York Times is currently undertaking a major news investigation, led by managing editor Jill Abramson, into News Corp.’s business dealings throughout the world, according to a source with knowledge of the project.” Abramson told the New York Observer she is leading “an investigative project for the next month” and that it “involves a group of domestic and foreign reporters, but I obviously can’t tell you what it is.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...murdoch-empire/
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:55 pm | #

Laura Bush Falsely Claims That ‘Many’ Iraqi Refugees Have Been Welcomed Into The U.S.

This morning, during an interview with First Lady Laura Bush, CNN highlighted World Refugee Day and the effect that the war in Iraq has had on the number of refugees around the world. CNN reported Iraqis “who were helping the Americans or even helping their own country” are now targeted and must seek “refuge in other nations, as well as the United States.”

Bush responded saying, “Obviously we’re especially concerned about the Iraqi refugees.” She added, “We welcome many of those refugees, both from Iraq and Afghanistan into the United States.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...iraqi-refugees/
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:53 pm | #

Hey cointelpro I got a message for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=58CJih1iYC0
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:48 pm | #

Photo Gallery
Lifestyles of the Poor and Displaced

http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...r_and_Displaced
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:45 pm | #

Must-Read: Marshall Young's Front Lines Blog
Security Contractor Shares Horror Stories; Compelling, Graphic Narrative, Images
By EASON JORDAN Posted 1 hr. 47 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...ront_Lines_Blog
Photo by Marshall Young/Paratus
An Iraqi Paratus employee who was badly wounded in an attack that left him blind in both eyes.
The top three posts on Marshall Young's "Front Lines Blog" are must-read.

Young, a US Navy veteran, founded and heads the US-based security contractor Paratus, which is active in northern Iraq.

The dispatches from Iraq recount three horrific episodes, and two posts include graphic photos.

The first report is entitled "BEHEADED FOR TRYING TO HELP," the second is headlined "ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER BOMBING, ANOTHER LOSES HIS EYES," and the third is called "PLEASE, SIR - DON'T FORGET MY HAND."

Yesterday, IraqSlogger broke the news that the Iraqi Kurdistan government is appealing to the world for medical supplies needed to provide urgent medical care in northern Iraq.

Because of the top two episodes noted in his blog, Marshall Young, who was recently himself wounded in a firefight, and his Paratus team were inspired to volunteer to protect, transport, and distribute any and all medical supplies donated in response to the Iraqi Kurdistan health minister's plea.

Here's an excerpt from Young's second post:

Two of my men were stopping to buy cigarettes when two rockets slammed into the sidewalk where they were. One of the men was nearly untouched. The other had his eyes blown out of their sockets. The swollen tissues and caked blood was all that held them from dangling on his cheeks.

Some have said that writing about what I see may be “cathartic.” It isn’t. The feelings of helplessness that day will never go away. How do you help a man that you have trained with and worked with daily for months, when you know that pulling the shrapnel embedded in his eye would be nothing short of torture?

We could barely give him enough medicine because he was in such a state of shock we would have had to clear an airway and breathe for him just to relieve it.

Mind you all of this has to take place in the back seat of an SUV. The first of the three hospitals we took him to had not so much as enough tape to hold down the IV catheter put in his arm.

By the time we reached the final hospital his eye had fully migrated from the socket and stared blankly up and to the right. His iris had turned grey from the pressure and drying fluid. Even as I write this the bile starts to rise in my throat.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:44 pm | #

check out the picture of the ring "14k 3 Degree Masonic Ring" here: http://www.masonic-cufflinks.co....k/usa- rings.php
anonymouse | 06.20.07 - 4:08 pm | #

jbrid,

The ring in the picture referenced at your link (http://forums.goldenmine.com/arc....php/t- 318.html) is a totally different ring. The one in the TIME picture is clearly onyx with a gold something right in the middle of the stone.
anonymouse | 06.20.07 - 4:03 pm | #

An interesting Video of ARNOLD I'd like to share with everyone:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/46...egger_dictator/
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 3:53 pm | #

To ANONYMOUSE --

Seems others are others also interested in this ring. Here's what I found // it's nothing really important however (became curious myself since you brought it up):
http://forums.goldenmine.com/arc....php/t- 318.html
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 3:48 pm | #

Something went wrong in that YouTube Video I submitted of Daddy Bush and his 11 Sep 91 NWO speech. Trying again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dg9IC65MHEo
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 3:41 pm | #

Can anyone tell me what that ring on Arnold's finger is (in the TIME cover picture)? Could it be a free mason ring?
anonymouse | 06.20.07 - 3:40 pm | #

Sane -- To try and make sense of this for you // I didn't make up the old phrase 'too much of anything is bad' -- I gave you a follow up Mark Twain quote where he even used the same in relaying his humor -- It's been around a long time. Common sense tells most of us (it does me) that too damn much of anything can be too damn much.

Chill out, please, not trying to give you a college level class on the subject (I think that's what you think you're doing for me, isn't it) // it's just a matter of the way things are.

Are we reading off of different sheets because I've said you've posted too much at any given time and that's not good? Well, to me it isn't. It's all good stuff (the links and cut and paste jobs) but it distracts and gets other post lost among all the verbage. It does. Sorry, but it does.

I think this has even gone on a bit too much, too long, personally. I'll try my best and not bring up the subject again, okay. You do what you feel is best and I'll try my best to step out of the way and let you do your thing. Not my place to try and correct you, just trying to help in my apparently unappreciated attempt. No problem. Continue as you have been, you do have some saying they appreicate what you are doing for them.

I say get off the couch and go check these things for yourself folks, You'll learn and retain far much longer in the process. You have all the resources at your disposal now and are just relying on a self-appointed spammer (doing good spam, yes) that unfortunately is apparently becoming quite stressed over all his fine efforts.

Maybe I've said too much. See what I'm talking about.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 3:35 pm | #

but I was playing with it first!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:28 pm | #

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LMAO
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:34 pm | #

New World Order
Lots of good links here if you ignore the music
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/ F...world_order.htm

Global Governance for a New Global Union
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ anal...303_global.html

Real good site with many many links in alpha order
http://100777.com/node/list

More good links
http://www.illuminati-and-911.co...m/dcontent/ 9282

Questioning the New Imperial World Order
A Hearing on the
“Project for the New American Century”
http://www.brusselstribunal.org/ ...llsTribunal.pdf

Yassir Arafat has two different resumes
http://www.usefulwork.com/shark/...ves/ 000142.html
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:33 pm | #

jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 3:19 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:14 pm | #

Am I going to have to seperate you two? LOL
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:25 pm | #
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but I was playing with it first!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:28 pm | #

Here's Bush Sr on 11 Sep 91 making his infamous NWO announcement --

YouTube Video (19 seconds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dg9IC65MHEo
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 3:25 pm | #

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Thanks I have been digging in my database to find that, but I must have it labeled as something else.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:27 pm | #

jbird it is economics 101, read about it, it should not be hard to understand. I know you mean well but you have ben conditioned like all of us to think that restrictions are necessary. It is a generational lie handed down from the pharohs. I personally have had enough of this elementarily debunkable concept.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:25 pm | #

Here's Bush Sr on 11 Sep 91 making his infamous NWO announcement --

YouTube Video (19 seconds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dg9IC65MHEo
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 3:25 pm | #

Scarcity principle
http://changingminds.org/princip...es/ scarcity.htm
How does it work?
If something is difficult to get, then getting it demonstrates to ourselves and others that we are in control of our environment. Threatening to take something away is showing the other person that you are in control. The desire of scarcity is thus the competitive urge to maintain control.
Aristotle knew this too, commenting in his 'Rhetoric':
'That is why what comes to us only at long intervals is pleasant, whether it be a person or a thing; for it is a change from what we had before, and, besides, what comes only at long intervals has the value of rarity.'
Controlling supply and demand
If you can control supply, then you have a significant lever on demand. The De Beers company buys huge quantities of diamonds on the world market, simply to keep them scarce so that their high price is maintained.
Scarcity must mean that
If something is not scarce, then it is not desired or valued that much. Praises from a teacher who seldom praises are valued more than praises from a teacher who is liberal with his or her praise.
Scarcity is non-linear process. As something becomes more scarce or less scarce, the desire for it does not change in a proportionate way.
If everything is scarce, then scarcity itself lacks its value and people become too used to it. Studies of retail sales have shown that if more than about 30% of goods have 'sale' sticker on them, the effectiveness of this method decreases.
Retail sales
'Whilst stocks last', 'This week only', 'Last one!'. Scarcity is a principle known by all retailers who milk it right down to the last drop. If something is rare, it seems we find it somehow more desirable.
A shortage of anything sends people scurrying to the shops to stock up (often fueling the shortage and keeping the spiral going).
Banned substances
Scarcity is the lack of something. When we realize that we do not have something, we desire it. Banning it only makes things worse.
Just telling someone that they should not do something makes it more desirable. When 'Lady Chatterley's Lover' was first published it got banned. Many black-market copies were sold and it made the author, D. H. Lawrence, famous.
People flock to see a heavily censored film. Music which is banned on radio stations shoots up the charts.
Competitive pressures
Competition uses the scarcity principle, as only one person or team can win. This also highlights the social nature of scarcity: we judge ourselves against others. When they have things we do not, we become jealous.
Parent-child games
Parents often try to control children in their rationing of attention and affection. Children soon pick up on this and play the game in reverse.
The natural rebelliousness of teenagers comes out in scarcity games as parents restricting what their children actually cause them to rebel. 'Don't you dare take those drugs' may actually be the wrong thing to say, particularly if the child has a contrarian preference.
This game continues in other forms as we grow to adulthood, and telling people not do to things perpetuates the 'banned substances' game.
So what?
You can ration pretty much anything, including goods, time, attention, friendliness, agreement and so on.Create envy, showing how people have what you are selling. Indicate how the supply is running short as everyone else getting one.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:23 pm | #

Robert Gates: Realist or Neo-Con?
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/ ...04_archive.html

HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL DECIDES TO URGENTLY DISPATCH A HIGH-LEVEL FACT-FINDING MISSION TO BEIT HANOUN
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/ ...17_archive.html

A counterfeit civilisation for the world
http://www.bilderberg.org/usglobal.htm

US, Israel finalise Iran strike plan
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...search/label/ US

Hundreds of workers die as India's tea industry suffers crisis
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...rch/label/ India

New World Order Needs "Old Time Religion"
Stories Drive Reasoning from Sensory Perception
Common Sense is Neither "Common" nor "Sensible"
Limited Span of Attention Makes Communication Fragile
http://www.welchco.com/03/00050/.../02/03/ 0309.HTM
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:23 pm | #

Here SANE -- try this on and see if it fits? You're sounding a b it stressed --

“Too much of anything is bad, but too much of good whiskey is barely enough.”
-- Mark Twain quotes
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 3:19 pm | #

NWO 1987-1992
http://cnparm.home.texas.net/911...ckg/ Backg2b.htm

Top Pentagon officials were warned and cancelled flights on September 10th
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...wledge.html#eve

German firm probes final World Trade Center deals
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...ge.html#trading

Found: The 911 "Stand Down Order"?
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...tml#unprotected

Guilty For 9/11: Bush, Rumsfeld, Myers
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...tml#unprotected

On the site click the links they are good ones.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:17 pm | #

http://www.scribd.com/doc/15019/...-Chris- Anderson
The Economics of Abundance, Wired Chris Anderson
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I don't agree with all of these comparisons but it does help to get into a paradigm shift.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:14 pm | #

George Bush Sr. announces the need for "a new world order" on September eleventh 1991. Exactly 10 years to the day of 9/11.
http://daggerdannconspiracy.tripod.com/

WANT A COPY OF THE CONGRESSIONAL REPORT ON 9/11?
WANT TO SEE THE LIES AND BLOCKED OUT PAGES FOR YOUR SELF,
http://daggerdannconspiracy.trip...od.com/ id7.html

TSA wants RFID in boarding passes
http://www.libertythink.com/ 2004...8_archives.html

All subsidies in alphabetical order
http://www.nwo.nl/ subsidiewijzer...SPPD_5RJJYX_Eng

Mass spectrometry of biomacromolecules
http://www.science.uva.nl/sils/ o...750895EC382D842

Ghosts of the Twin Towers
http://dorseyland.blogsome.com/2...he-twin-towers/
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:12 pm | #

SANE -- I think you've seriously gone over the clift on this one. If you can't get the concept of too much air and the balloon pops // you're truly a lost cause. What else can I say about that...

And you're trying to reduce TRUTH to degrees // I say it either is or it isn't. Period. Shades of gray really don't apply.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 3:10 pm | #

Max Brooks - World War Z
http://www.scribd.com/doc/4908/M...oks-World-War- Z
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:09 pm | #

Too much war? You're probably right about that.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 2:51 pm | #
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I simply cannot agree, this is a conversation to reduce issues into a scarcity vs abundance argument.

Every example you gave of how too much is bad makes no fricking sense yet they are concepts that we have been conditioned to believe. Too much air so the baloon pops?? WTF??? how does that justify too much truth blogging is a bd thing and must somehow be controlled. That is like saying all terrists are muslim and all bankers are jews. These are concepts we are conditioned to believe, yet when logically analyzed make no sense. Too much kindness is bad??? You are referring to neediness and false kindness again something we are doublethought into believing is real kindness but it is not.

And you pass over too much truth as a sungular/plural absoluta as if that absolves the importance of it being a representation of how too much is not necessarily bad.

I am not sensitive or personal about this, I am just logical about it. The scarcity conversation has been used to kill millions if not billions and now is being used to enslave us all due to global warming scarcities. It is a false deceptive enslaving idea that I will not overlook or underestimate as an evil doctrine.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:05 pm | #

So In the Governemnt view "Throw Money at it and it will go away" except it won't go away because it is a NATURAL PHENOMENON that occurs every so often anyway. The melting of polar ice releases oxyegen into the atmosphere that regenerates the ozone layer. Even their own scientists have said that there is more oxyegen being released than the atmoshere can handle, but what they don't say is that the hole in the ozone is getting smaller because of it.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:03 pm | #

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In other words according to the Government and their oh so intelligent scientists taxation is the solution to any problem we may face.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:05 pm | #

OK, let me see if I have this straight. The US Government and Many others say that there is a "Global Warming" Crisis. They say that Automobiles that use Fossil fuels are the biggest culprit that add to the crisis. So they now will ban fossil fuels? No, they actually promote heavier use of them, but raise the prices to ungodly levels. Do they propose sanctions on the Auto manufacturers to produce more or all non fossil fuel vehicles? No, they propose to make and enforce taxes on the drivers of the cars. Do they propose stricter clean air legislation on Big Businesses? No, again they propose further taxation on the private citizens to "clean up" the air. Do they propose these taxes with a plan of study on how to clean up said air? NO, they just propose mass tax with no explanation except to tell us it is a "crisis".

So In the Governemnt view "Throw Money at it and it will go away" except it won't go away because it is a NATURAL PHENOMENON that occurs every so often anyway. The melting of polar ice releases oxyegen into the atmosphere that regenerates the ozone layer. Even their own scientists have said that there is more oxyegen being released than the atmoshere can handle, but what they don't say is that the hole in the ozone is getting smaller because of it.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:03 pm | #

*** (H)e told the Washington Post that he had sought his deferments because "I had other priorities in the 60's than military service."

That's what our Vice President had to say about his FIVE (5) DEFERMENTS FROM MILITARY SERVICE -- Oh yes, he was instrumental in sending us to war (2003) and helping keep us there -- but he himself never was a soldier. Did you already know that?

Five deferments --
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...gi? ArtNum=48151
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 3:02 pm | #

http://www.jackherer.com/index.html It is true that the Globalists made this illegal so they could make money. Learn the History of this plant.It's not the Evil Weed THEY have brainwashed us to believe. Look at the chart that shows deaths caused by it,compare to "legal, government controlled substances".
UNITEDWEREFALLING | 06.20.07 - 2:59 pm | #

I have not forgotten you people, I am just getting ready to go to a going away party. It is for all of you. Your places in the concentration camps are complete and waiting for you.

I guess you could call this a pre-celebration.

later, retards
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 2:41 pm | #

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What he meant to say ia that he is late for his Hitler....oops....I mean Bush youth Rally.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 2:50 pm |

Now that's funny stuff. Thanks TOTL
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 2:54 pm | #

HATRED-OF-CAPITALISM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21500/ ...REDOFCAPITALISM
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:53 pm | #

Sane you're trying to read too much into that (which is itself too much, once again). Use your common sense and try not to argue against things you surely must also understand.

Too much truth? (you ask) TRUTH is TRUTH // NO plural, NO singular applies // it either IS or IT ISN'T.

Yes, even too much love -- it 'might' be diffiult to handle too much love if it is ever lost. A phllosphical concept for you to consider. Look what Romeo did, look what Juliet did. Stupid example? Maybe. Death from a broken heart for the loss of a loved one. Not many can say the same for the SOB that gets by the runaway truck.

Too much air -- the baloon 'POPS' --

Too much salt, too much sugar, too much food (in general) // not good.l

To go back to one of your quips // Too much kindness? You might never get rid of the person when they eventuially come to grate upon one's nerves. Again, not good.

You get the idea, surely. And stop calling you Shirley, right. Too many attempts at joke making -

Too much war? You're probably right about that.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 2:51 pm | #

THE IRON HEEL by Jack London

"At first, this Earth, a stage so gloomed with woe You almost sicken at the shifting of the scenes. And yet be patient. Our Playwright may show In some fifth act what this Wild Drama means." CONTENTS FORWARD I. MY EAGLE II. CHALLENGES III. JOHNSON'S ARM IV. SLAVES OF THE MACHINE V. THE PHILOMATHS VI. ADUMBRATIONS VII. THE BISHOP'S VISION VIII. THE MACHINE BREAKERS IX. THE MATHEMATICS OF A DREAM X. THE VORTEX XI. THE GREAT ADVENTURE XII. THE BISHOP XIII. THE GENERAL STRIKE XIV. THE BEGINNING OF THE END

XV. LAST DAYS XVI. THE END XVII. THE SCARLET LIVERY XVIII. IN THE SHADOW OF SONOMA XIX. TRANSFORMATION XX. THE LAST OLIGARCH XXI. THE ROARING ABYSMAL BEAST XXII. THE CHICAGO COMMUNE XXIII. THE PEOPLE OF THE ABYSS XXIV. NIGHTMARE XXV. THE TERRORISTS

THE IRON HEEL

FOREWORD

It cannot be said that the Everhard Manuscript is an important historical document. To the historian it bristles with errorsnot errors of fact, but errors of interpretation. Look ing back across the seven centuries that have lapsed since Avis Everha rd completed her manuscript, events, and the bearings of events, th at were confused and veiled to her, are clear to us. She lacked perspec tive. She was too close to the events she writes about. Nay, she was merged in the events she has described. Nevertheless, as a personal document, the Everhard Manuscript is of inestimable value. But here again enter error of p erspective, and vitiation due to the bias of love. Yet we smile, i ndeed, and forgive Avis Everhard for the heroic lines upon which she modelled her husband. We know today that he was not so colossal, and th at he loomed among the events of his times less largely than the Manuscri pt would lead us to believe. We know that Ernest Everhard was an exceptionally strong man, but not so exceptional as his wife thought him to be. He was, after all, but one of a large number of heroes who, throughout the world , devoted their lives to the Revolution; though it must be conceded that he did unusual work, especially in his elaboration and interpreta tion of workingclass philosophy. "Proletarian science" and " proletarian philosophy" were his phrases for it, and therein he shows the provincia lism of his minda defect, however, that was due to the times and tha t none in that day could escape. But to return to the Manuscript. Especially valuab le is it in communicating to us the FEEL of those terrible tim es. Nowhere do we find more vividly portrayed the psychology of the perso ns that lived in that turbulent period embraced between the years 1 912 and 1932their mistakes and ignorance, their doubts and fears and misapprehensions, their ethical delusions, their violent passions, t heir inconceivable sordidness and selfishness. These are the things t hat are so hard for

us of this enlightened age to understand. History tells us that these things were, and biology and psychology tell us wh y they were; but history and biology and psychology do not make the se things alive. We accept them as facts, but we are left without symp athetic comprehension of them. This sympathy comes to us, however, as we peruse t he Everhard Manuscript. We enter into the minds of the actors in that longago worlddrama, and for the time being their mental p rocesses are our mental processes. Not alone do we understand Avis Everhard's love for her herohusband, but we feel, as he felt, in thos e first days, the vague and terrible loom of the Oligarchy. The Iron Heel (well named) we feel descending upon and crushing mankind. And in passing we note that that historic phrase, the Iron Heel, originated in Ernest Everhard' s mind. This, we may say, is the one moot question that this newfound document clears up. P revious to this, the earliestknown use of the phrase occurred in the p amphlet, "Ye Slaves," written by George Milford and published in Decembe r, 1912. This George Milford was an obscure agitator about whom nothing is known, save the one additional bit of information gained from the Manuscript, which mentions that he was shot in the Chicago Commune. Evidently he had heard Ernest Everhard make use of the phrase in so me public speech, most probably when he was running for Congress in the f all of 1912. From the Manuscript we learn that Everhard used the phrase at a private dinner in the spring of 1912. This is, without discussion , the earliestknown occasion on which the Oligarchy was so designated. The rise of the Oligarchy will always remain a cau se of secret wonder to the historian and the philosopher. Other great historical events have their place in social evolution. They were in evitable. Their coming could have been predicted with the same certitude that astronomers today predict the outcome of the movements of sta rs. Without these other great historical events, social evolution co uld not have proceeded. Primitive communism, chattel slavery, s erf slavery, and wage slavery were necessary steppingstones in the evol ution of society. But it were ridiculous to assert that the Iron Hee l was a necessary steppingstone. Rather, today, is it adjudged a s tep aside, or a step backward, to the social tyrannies that made the ea rly world a hell, but that were as necessary as the Iron Heel was unnece ssary. Black as Feudalism was, yet the coming of it was i nevitable. What else than Feudalism could have followed upon the breakd own of that great centralized governmental machine known as the Roma n Empire? Not so, however, with the Iron Heel. In the orderly pr ocedure of social evolution there was no place for it. It was not ne cessary, and it was not inevitable. It must always remain the great cu riosity of historya whim, a fantasy, an apparition, a thing unexpected and undreamed; and it should serve as a warning to those rash politic al theorists of today who speak with certitude of social processes. Capitalism was adjudged by the sociologists of the time to be the culmination of bourgeois rule, the ripened fruit o f the bourgeois revolution. And we of today can but applaud that judgment. Following upon Capitalism, it was held, even by such intelle ctual and antagonistic giants as Herbert Spencer, that Socialism would co me. Out of the decay of selfseeking capitalism, it was held, would ari se that flower of the

ages, the Brotherhood of Man. Instead of which, ap palling alike to us who look back and to those that lived at the ti me, capitalism, rottenripe, sent forth that monstrous offshoot, t he Oligarchy. Too late did the socialist movement of the early t wentieth century divine the coming of the Oligarchy. Even as it was divined, the Oligarchy was therea fact established in blood, a stupendous and awful reality. Nor even then, as the Everhard Manuscript well shows, was any permanence attributed to the Iron Heel. Its overth row was a matter of a few short years, was the judgment of the revolut ionists. It is true, they realized that the Peasant Revolt was unplanne d, and that the First Revolt was premature; but they little realized tha t the Second Revolt, planned and mature, was doomed to equal futility a nd more terrible punishment. It is apparent that Avis Everhard completed the Ma nuscript during the last days of preparation for the Second Revolt; he nce the fact that there is no mention of the disastrous outcome of t he Second Revolt. It is quite clear that she intended the Manuscript for immediate publication, as soon as the Iron Heel was overthro wn, so that her husband, so recently dead, should receive full cre dit for all that he had ventured and accomplished. Then came the frigh tful crushing of the Second Revolt, and it is probable that in the mome nt of danger, ere she fled or was captured by the Mercenaries, she hid t he Manuscript in the hollow oak at Wake Robin Lodge. Of Avis Everhard there is no further record. Undou btedly she was executed by the Mercenaries; and, as is well known , no record of such executions was kept by the Iron Heel. But little d id she realize, even then, as she hid the Manuscript and prepared to fl ee, how terrible had been the breakdown of the Second Revolt. Little di d she realize that the tortuous and distorted evolution of the next t hree centuries would compel a Third Revolt and a Fourth Revolt, and man y Revolts, all drowned in seas of blood, ere the worldmovement of labor should come into its own. And little did she dream that for seven long centuries the tribute of her love to Ernest Everhard would repose undist urbed in the heart of the ancient oak of Wake Robin Lodge. ANTHONY MEREDITH Ardis, November 27, 419 B.O.M.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:48 pm | #

The Iron Heel, By Jack London
http://www.scribd.com/doc/1456/T...-By-Jack- London
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:43 pm | #

http://www.physics911.net/stevenjones
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 2:38 pm | #

But again, so it is not lost on deaf ears: Too much of anything isn't good for you. Sex, maybe being the exception. Probably that can even take its toll.

Continued smile (nuts ?? -- maybe you're right).
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 2:30 pm | #
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????

I cannot see how the expression "too much of anything is bad" was not an illuminati invention.

Too much truth???

Too much love???

Too much peace???

Too much freedom???

Too much kindness???

All that expression has done is lead us blindly into the realm of too much bad namely:

Too much secrecy

Too much deceipt

Too much war

Too much death

Too much greed

etc.

Scarcity is an illuminati concept.

Energy, water, food, air is abundant and we are made to believe it is scarce and that 99% of the population needs to be killed off in order to sustain a "good" human population.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:36 pm | #

My suggestion was to trigger in SANE him perhaps making a request to Admin and suggest they create a LIBRARY SECTION for just his kind of input. Wouldn't distract from a forum that has a title (READER'S COMMENTS) in the least him doing that. Besides that would give the forum a bit more class and a central collection point for all that effort he (and others, you're right about that) put forth. Entirely my opinion. And I know, opinions are like ass holes -- everyone has one.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:50 pm | #
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NO NO NO NO NO NO

Are you nuts????

No control

No entanglements

No censorship

The truth will magically appear

The only way illuminati has been able to hide for so long has been by convincing everyone that censorship/control is necessary

Let the cointelpro spammers spam, and let the truthers truth and then people can use their fucking heads and finally figure out how they have been screwed over somany generations.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:55 pm |
__________________
I might be a little nuts (aren't we all) -- But I go with the old saying that too much of anything is bad.

I also believe in PsyOps and how easy it is to hide in plain sight and confuse the issue if you can convince the other side that what you have to give is just what they have been needing all along, that they can't survive w/o it. Don't read into that, okay.

I think the Illuminati (which has been around for many years) survived because the common man couldn't relate to them (their wealth and power) // also they lost touch with the comman man at the same time (if the people are starving and in need of food -- just let them eat cake) // that kind of thing.

But again, so it is not lost on deaf ears: Too much of anything isn't good for you. Sex, maybe being the exception. Probably that can even take its toll.

Continued smile (nuts ?? -- maybe you're right).
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 2:30 pm | #

This is fucking unbelievable shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:06 pm | #

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I knew you could appreciate those posts
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 2:09 pm | #
____________________________

I think the TI info and the banking info goes a long way to ensuring that we "Know thy enemy."

People need to understand the comlexity of duplicity and deception taking place. Zionist, nazi, royalty, communist, fascist, etc. Just fucking uniforms...it is always the same INDIVIDUALS on the top that take off the uniform so that millions of others can die with the uniform still on.

It is such a fucking 20 dimentional shell game and people are still only looking at 2 maybe 3 dimentions.

Keep it up man!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:19 pm | #

Education or Indoctrination?
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/ind...om/ indoctri.htm

The NEA's Anti-American Agenda Threatens Our Nation
http://www.natall.com/american-d.../ adv031393.html

THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND THE EVIL EMPIRE
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/pm/nwo.htm
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 2:18 pm | #

'Inconvenient Truth' Producer Pens Kids' Global Warming Text
http://www.cnsnews.com/ ViewCultu...L20070130b.html

Publisher aims to teach kids right from left
http://www.latimes.com/news/ nati...2660,full.story

SCHOLASTIC INC. ANNOUNCES ONGOING COMMITMENT TO RESPONSIBLE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND TEAMS UP WITH RAINFOREST ALLIANCE TO CONTINUE IMPROVING PAPER PROCUREMENT PRACTICES
http://www.scholastic.com/ abouts...01292007_CP.htm

Scholastic's 'lil global warming book
http://conservativepublisher.blo...rming- book.html

Children's books present conservative view
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Ent...tive_view/8743/
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 2:15 pm | #

http://100777.com/node/605

EARTH FIRST MENDOCINO JUDI BARI REDWOOD FBI FRAME COINTELPRO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...?v=0...related& search=

GANG STALKING AND ELECTRONIC HARASSMENT GLOSSARY
http://www.raven1.net/glossary.htm

nwo hackers: the covert war against antiwar.com
http://www.disinfo.com/archive/p.../pg1/ index.html
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 2:00 pm | #
__________________________________
TIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is fucking unbelievable shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:06 pm | #

NONVIOLENT INTERPOSITION IN ARMED CONFLICTS
http://www.gmu.edu/academic/pcs/.../pcs/ labate.htm

Human Security: Annotated Bibliography
http://www.gmu.edu/academic/hsp/ ...nnotatedbib.htm

Crowd-control cookery: Microwaves among new non-lethal weapons
http://www.freerepublic.com/ foru...8e705a74bc4.htm

NWO PLAN “B” FOR PERU,
A COUP D’ETAT?
http://educate-yourself.org/rfp/ ...anb16may0.shtml

The History and Significance of the New World Order
http://www.natvan.com/free-speec...ch/ fs9612a.html

NAFTA, GATT, WTO and FTAA
http://www.jacksonprogressive.co.../ trademain.html

A Force More Powerful
Promoting ‘Democracy’ through Civil Disobedience
http://www.zmag.org/content/show...fm? ItemID=12211

U.S. makes mockery of Afghan democracy-ousted MP
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...oreign% 20policy
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 2:06 pm | #

LMFAO,
YOU COULDN'T BITE MY WIRE!
PUSTIE!
WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU BITE JONE'S ASS!
COME-ON NOW JONES!
SINCERELY
PRINCE DAVID
EZEKIEL 34, 37
DAVID LOUIS SITO THE CHRIST | 06.20.07 - 2:02 pm | #

The name change worked if sane is commenting again.

LOL
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:57 pm | #
______________

Your undeniable talents never fail.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...757550940588599
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:02 pm | #

Hoover's Long Shadow (COINTELPRO)
http://100777.com/node/605

EARTH FIRST MENDOCINO JUDI BARI REDWOOD FBI FRAME COINTELPRO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...related& search=

GANG STALKING AND ELECTRONIC HARASSMENT GLOSSARY
http://www.raven1.net/glossary.htm

nwo hackers: the covert war against antiwar.com
http://www.disinfo.com/archive/p.../pg1/ index.html
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 2:00 pm | #

Rockefeller foundation - CONTROL of EDUCATION

CIA - Control of international terrorism

FBI - control of domestic surveillance

Internet 2 - control of electronic communications

WTF - NO Fucking controls - free flow info - 100,000 will not stop 300 million and 1 million will not stop 6 billion

The only way they can is through these fucking control methods.

Stop being so fucking lazy, use your head and figure out what is truth and what is not.

If there are controls I guarantee you will never get that chance!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:59 pm | #

Unless "I see" attempt so articulate a matter of truth conjecture....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:47 pm |

What I meant to say, albeit hastily, is that we should ignore (Amuzed=I see stupid people) unless his/her comments are an attempt at having a real intellectual discourse regarding any matter of truth or untruth.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:57 pm | #

Wow, even sane is commenting now, but...

Who is Amuzed?

Oh wait, that used to be me.

The name change worked if sane is commenting again.

LOL
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:57 pm | #

SHACKLED BOXCARS in OR,TX,,MT,NH, NC; & intervew w/imported NATO crack troops
http://portland.indymedia.org/en...03/ 281821.shtml

Banks face investigation of collateral
http://mparent7777- 2.blogspot.co...04_archive.html

The Second Greatest Modern Day Hoax!
http://lonepatriot.com/archives/...post/ index.html

Two Prosecutors Faulted Trials for Detainees
http://www.whatreallyhappened.co...es/ 2005_07.html

Anti-War Activist places US Soldiers under (Citizens) Arrest in Co Clare.
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76801

How war losses are attributed to "stab in the back" anti-war activists
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/ ...28_archive.html

911:
Descent
Into
Tyranny
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/me...6/10/ 119636.pdf
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:56 pm | #

jbrid1138

Good comments. Way to be civil. But not sure the solution if there even need be one... Sane is a machine. Tired is a machine. Biggs, etc. And there are others like them that seem to exchange info like supercomputers. Seems a bit overwhelming to the rest of us. But we can still engage.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:54 pm | #

When the jester sang for the king and queen
____________________

Amuzed - you are the jester
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:53 pm | #

Unless "I see" attempt so articulate a matter of truth conjecture....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:47 pm |

LOL, anony, at least I could understand what Tired said, even if it was misspelled, but wtf does this mean?

Hehe, I think you are a bigger dumbass!

LMAO
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:52 pm | #

There we were all in one place
A generation lost in space With no time left to start again
So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick
Jack Flash sat on a candle stick
'Cause fire is the devil's only friend.

As I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in hell
Could break that satan's spell

And as flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw satan laughing with delight
the day the music died.

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away

I went down to the sacred store
Where I'd heard the music years before
But the man there said the music wouldn't play

And in the streets the children screamed
The lovers cried and the poets dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The church bells all were broken

And the three men I admire most
The Father Son and Holy Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died

They were singin'

Bye, bye miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye?
Singing this will be the day that I die
this will be the day that I die
__________________________________
How is this not an anti-illuminati song????

Who else died in a sacrificial rite???
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:51 pm | #

Former President Jimmy Carter accused the U.S., Israel and the European Union on Tuesday of seeking to divide the Palestinian people by reopening aid to President Mahmoud Abbas' new government in the West Bank while denying the same to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

Carter, a Nobel Peace Prize winner who was addressing a human rights conference in Ireland, also said the Bush administration's refusal to accept Hamas' 2006 election victory was "criminal."

Carter said Hamas, besides winning a fair and democratic mandate that should have entitled it to lead the Palestinian government, had proven itself to be far more organized in its political and military showdowns with Abbas' moderate Fatah movement.

Hamas fighters routed Fatah in their violent takeover of the Gaza Strip last week. The split prompted Abbas to dissolve the power-sharing government with his rivals in Hamas and set up a Fatah-led administration to govern the West Bank.

Carter said the consensus of the U.S., Israel and the EU to start funneling aid to Abbas' new government in the West Bank but continue blocking Hamas in the Gaza Strip represented an "effort to divide Palestinians into two peoples."

"All efforts of the international community should be to reconcile the two, but there's no effort from the outside to bring the two together," he said.

The U.S. and European countries cut off the Hamas-led government last year because of the Islamic militant group's refusal to renounce violence and recognize Israel. They have continued to send humanitarian aid to Gaza through the United Nations and other organizations.

In the latest crisis, the U.S., Israel and much of the West have been trying to shore up Abbas in hopes that the West Bank can be made into a democratic example that would bring along Gaza.

During his speech to Ireland's annual Forum on Human Rights, the 83-year-old former president said monitors from his Carter Center observed the 2006 election that Hamas won. He said the vote was "orderly and fair" and Hamas triumphed, in part, because it was "shrewd in selecting candidates," whereas a divided, corrupt Fatah ran multiple candidates for single seats.

Far from encouraging Hamas' move into parliamentary politics, Carter said the U.S. and Israel, with European Union acquiescence, sought to subvert the outcome by shunning Hamas and helping Abbas to keep the reins of political and military power.

"That action was criminal," he said in a news conference after his speech.

"The United States and Israel decided to punish all the people in Palestine and did everything they could to deter a compromise between Hamas and Fatah," he said.

Carter said the U.S. and others supplied the Fatah-controlled security forces in Gaza with vastly superior weaponry in hopes they would "conquer Hamas in Gaza" — but Hamas routed Fatah in the fighting last week because of its "superior skills and discipline."

here is a man ,though he was a puppet, may now open up more and show the current flock of politicians where they are treasonous
Me | 06.20.07 - 1:50 pm | #

jbrid1138.

I don't see Sane as a problem here. If truth gets spammed, so be it (and he is not the only one doing it). If you want your own blog here, it is not going to happen. People don't like looking that far back on a convoluted PP page. This is just for getting links out. People can copy and paste to their own databases etc. Don't fret. You can still comment. It just might not be up for long, that's all....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:42 pm
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Thanks ANONYMOUS -- Whoever you are???? Nice of you to respond.

I guess my manner of speech did indicate SANE to be a problem // But at the same time I was trying to commend him for his fine efforts. I don't think of him as a problem, not really, just a distraction because of the large (multiple) postings. Kind of hard to get a word in edge-wise (understand???) and when one does provide a link (I am agreeing with you, that is a fine purpose here, no question about that) -- they have a tendency to become lost in the sandwich effect. Covered up (not a good word is it -- considering how we find Cover up to be so distasteful to start with). But again, thanks for your comment regarding my comment.

My suggestion was to trigger in SANE him perhaps making a request to Admin and suggest they create a LIBRARY SECTION for just his kind of input. Wouldn't distract from a forum that has a title (READER'S COMMENTS) in the least him doing that. Besides that would give the forum a bit more class and a central collection point for all that effort he (and others, you're right about that) put forth. Entirely my opinion. And I know, opinions are like ass holes -- everyone has one.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:50 pm | #

Correct my spelling please....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:50 pm | #

They are boring.
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:45 pm | #

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Aww what's wrong do spelling errors disturb your delicate sensibilities? Perhaps you should go to a day spa and get a facial for your amuzment.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:48 pm | #

Unless "I see" attempt so articulate a matter of truth conjecture....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:47 pm | #

SHIT HAPPENS

SPAM HAPPENS

SPAM TRUTH

JUSTICE MAY JUST HAPPEN
_____________________________

Shit what an idiotic piece of prose, sorry but I think you get the general idea.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:47 pm | #

Ignore "I see".....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:47 pm | #

In this digest:

IN> In WoD: Magi
IN> Immortal Beloved ethereal
IN> IN Successors: The New Prince of Greed.
IN> Laurence in Love
IN> Another WordBound
IN> RE: In WoD: Garou
Re: IN> RE: In WoD: Garou
IN> An Ethereal Realm
Re: IN> In WoD: Cainites
Re: IN> IN Successors: The New Prince of Greed.
IN> Angel of door to door sales
IN> Laurence supports Bush?
http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine...s/2001/ 2397.txt

Various Freedom of Information Act documents
http://www.nachos.net/forums/sho...ead.php? t=50157
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:47 pm | #

I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:24 pm | #

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You obviously come from a corrupy and inbred gene pool, but please when you look at your family you shouldn't see "stupid people" you should see educationally challenged people.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:34 pm |

LOL, if you are going to call ME educationally challenged, at least spell-check your posts, dumbass.

…and like I said before, try to get more original with your insults.

They are boring.
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:45 pm | #

Uniform School Accounting System (USAS)
Reference Manual
http://www2.oecn.k12.oh.us/www/ s...manual_049.html

State Government Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politi...y/ StateCAFR.htm

FY04 MILITARY PROGRAMS
CUSTOMER SATISFACTION
S URVEY
http://www.hq.usace.army.mil/cem...PORT% 20FY04.pdf

Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) and Targeted Individuals (TI's)
http://mindcontrol.twoday.net/st...tories/2495104/
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:41 pm | #

Amazing 9/11 WTC Ground Zero Photo Collection
http://www.scribd.com/doc/10160/...hoto- Collection
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:39 pm | #

Tired, take a look at some other stuff i posted last night, kick back aany corroborative info please.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=49675#97456
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=49675#97453
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=49675#97451
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:23 pm | #

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I have aot to coroborate, however it is all archived into a data base that i do not have with me right now. But I will post it all later tonight though
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:37 pm | #

To SANE -- Noted.

I was afraid I might have offended you, and that's surely not how I view my purpose here. And I don't want to belabor this point but your fine efforts are a bit OVERKILL. Much important data (links, videos, whateve) are probably lost because of that overkill. Too much at one time.

Here's something to consider: I was a member of the Loose Change Forum months ago and we encountered some among us doing basically the same as you // sincerely, professional in their wishes to share discoveries. The same problem resulted and others started complaining that those folks were trying to monopolize the forum // a touchy subject, I realize. What was decided was a LIBRARY SECTION was created by the Moderators (Admin) for just this sort of thing, i.e., submitted links for safe-keeping (orhganized under various subject headings -- grouped together in other words, mass data strings) and preserved for interested parties to scan and check out in their leisure. Seemed to work. Of course the forum was disbanded because Dylan Avery got a bug up his ass but that's entirely another story.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:34 pm | #

Christine Payne Towler - The Continental Tarots
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5413/C...tinental- Tarots
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:34 pm | #

jbird? I hear ya it does get to be alot at once but damn you have to commend that person he's on the ball in case others aren't and can't find something! Hey SANE can you find me video or stills of building 6 and 7 that Enzo spoke of? If so I can pay you with my knidness of free dvds I've collected and copied.
UNITEDWEREFALLING | 06.20.07 - 1:31 pm | #

LMAO
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:24 pm
_________________
If you will only look a little closer, I think you'll find that's a MIRROR you're looking into. Just couldn't pass up saying that. Smile.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:27 pm | #
________________________
He opened the door, how could you resist?
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:31 pm | #

OH my gosh! Am I winning with jbrid now too?

LOL, it's working.
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:31 pm | #

But me, I'm just here trying to share and learn from others.

You? I think you may have missed your calling as a librarian.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:19 pm | #
_______________________

Oh how my professors would disagree.

But c'mon man, I change it up all the time with 2 minute videos, hip hop, rock, small posts. But when I find something that deserves attention that I have never seen before...I tend to want to make sure it is fully preserved. There are a few of these type articles that have been redacted, but saved on these threads. I will take the criticism and try not to "over do" it. But sometimes there is a method to my madness. Of course I must also admit often there is not
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:27 pm | #

Northwoods Operation -- Here take a look-see at the original 1962 document:

http://911exposed.org/Northwoods.htm

'DOUBLE CLICK' ON THE PAGE TO ENLARGE ...
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:25 pm | #

Let's see... Who do I see right now?

sane

jbrid

tired

and...

anony, my new bestus friend

LMAO
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:24 pm | #

Try to keep up with the truth outcasts here Amuzed.....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:23 pm | #

Operations Northwoods for the uninitiated....

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662

NOT AMUZED.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:21 pm | #

SANE my forum friend. With all those postings you make (lengthy as they are, generally) back to back one after the other // Do you ever get the idea that you're talking to yourself?????
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 11:56 am | #
___________________

Holy crap, I thought I was just saving important pieces of historical text to my own private space as they are being scrubbed from the earth's repositories.

You mean other people can see and save this info locally too???

What a shame!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:16 pm
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Humor, right??? Okay --

I get what your saying. In fact, I can relate entirely // Here's why --

I haven't tried to count the number of YouTube videos that have mysteriously been DELETED from my favorites folder // somewhere in the area of 45-50 is a pretty good guess. All important stuff, I slowly collected over the months. Now add to that Google (I know they bought YouTube months ago) and other links such as old news articles -- ALL GONE -- Gone from the web address I initially discovered them, but some have resurfaced at other addresses most likely thanks to people such as you and your otherwise fine efforts. So I will thank you for that effort. So, see, I do understand.

But damn, man, you bombard the forum with sooooo damn much it is nearly impossible (and for me it IS impossible) to try and determine WHAT I find of interest and want to keep if I do find such links.

It becomes the way too thick textbook that the student is so very reluctant to open for no other reason than it's too damn thick -- that's why the student oftentimes goes in search of the CRIB NOTES (summarized version).

Understand?

I mean your post (and you know this w/o my comments) are one after the other -- bam, bam, bam, bam. AND it becomes way too much.

Little bits and pieces makes for easy reading and for better forum traffic. Or so I think.

But me, I'm just here trying to share and learn from others.

You? I think you may have missed your calling as a librarian.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:19 pm | #

Tired, take a look into new procurement requests

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...nts...mments30/ #97401
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:17 pm | #

Interesting to say the least.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:19 pm | #

Tired, take a look into new procurement requests

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...mments30/ #97401
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:17 pm | #

WHAT IS FINCEN?
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...forcement_1.txt

Big Brother Wants to Look Into Your Bank Account (Any Time It Pleases)
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...forcement_2.txt

Army exploratory development programs
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...ed_programs.txt
NEAL KNOX REPORT JPFO PROVES ME WRONG By Neal Knox
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...and_nazis_1.txt

National Socialist/Socialist::
==============================

Anti-Gun-Ownership Propaganda
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...and_nazis_2.txt

The Rise of the National Security State:

FEMA and the NSC
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...mergency_04.txt
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:17 pm | #

Every time I get you to respond to something I say, I win. - Amuzed.

Actually, every time I get you to show your fake, presumptious, psuedo-enlightened, pompous self, I win!

You just further instill the desire to post truth rather than mere insult like yourself.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:17 pm | #

Homeland antiterrorism

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6094/H...d- antiterrorism

Unrestricted Warfare-Leaked Chinese Plan to take over US
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5714/U...tricted- Warfare

Farrell, Joseph - Reich of the Black Sun
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6704/F...f-the-Black- Sun
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:15 pm | #

State Department Publication 7277 (1961)

http://www.mikenew.com/pub7277.html

Ask yourself why this was ever published by our very own State Department if it is not infact the agenda of this government to eventually submit to the United Nations.

Our military will be scaled down through the escalation of war in the Middle East. A number of bases have already been closed and converted. The remaining forces in America will be used for peace-keeping....

NOT AMUZED.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:14 pm | #

Spoken like a man that took his mother to prom with him
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:08 pm |

LOL, Tired. Do you and Gabe live with each other? He tried the same kind of lame, bullshit insults with me yesterday.

C'mon, you can do better that that. Oh wait! Maybe you can’t.

LOL

You are just another paranoid retard like the rest here.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 1:14 pm | #

T H E E X O N
[T h e E x e m p t E l e c t]
http://www.hackcanada.com/blackc...atriot/ exon.txt

From the Illumi-Net BBS Decatur, GA
Conspiracy Theory Conference 404-377-1141

Summary of FBI Computer Systems
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...i_computers.txt

EXCERPTS FROM INTERVIEW WITH FRANK VARELLI
FORMER FBI INFORMER, AND INFILTRATOR OF CISPES.
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...bi_informer.txt

OWNERSHIP OF FEDERAL RESERVE
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...e_ownership.txt
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:11 pm | #

Anony, please. I am not pretending to be a reactionary. Every time I get you to respond to something I say, I win. Why? Because then you are not posting your stupid bullshit. Did I really pick the wrong prey? I think not, you are still responding.

LOL, what a dumbass.

You are just as fucking stupid as Gabe.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 1:10 pm | #

Thanks for the suggestion. I think I will change my name to one I have used before. Should I change it to "I see stupid people"?

I think so. Why? Because you paranoid dumbasses deserve it.

Let me make a guess. All of you are kind of outcasts, right? The only folks you really get along with are those that share in you delusions. Some of you are even alienated from your families. Gabe even admitted this, or maybe it was sane.

You have become more and more anti-social because you are putting all of your efforts into this lunacy; and before you tell me I spend a lot of time here myself, I don’t spend anywhere near the time here that most of you moonbats do.

Wake up! Join the real world again. With every post you get further and further away from reality.

Join the human race again.

But, if you are unwilling to do this, maybe Gabe and his alien friends will fill the void.

LMFAO

What a bunch of retards!
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 1:05 pm | #

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Spoken like a man that took his mother to prom with him
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:08 pm | #

In case there is anyone out there doing research on military spending, here's
a list of suffixes used in budget documents to identify the Department of
Defense component responsible for the program. Generally, all the DOD
components are listed together in the same part of the RDT&E budget in
Congressional budget documents, without naming the specific agency.
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...od_suffixes.txt

The following article is from a leaflet that has been distributed by the
Libertarian Party in New Jersey. Written by an attorney, it deals with
the subject of talking to police or other government agents.
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...alk_to_cops.txt

I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast
by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th
Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...ind_control.txt

The following file of excepts of testimony by Daniel Ellsberg to the US
Senate in 1973 gives an insider's perspective on government secrecy. I
hope that readers find this of interest.
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc..._on_secrecy.txt
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:06 pm | #

The Illuminati And The Council On Foreign Relations by Myron Fagan
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63622/...-by-Myron- Fagan
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:06 pm | #

PUSTIES
HOW ABOUT PRISON PLANET/INFO WARS SHRINING AS A TOPIC TO SHARE WITH YOUR AUDIENCE? WHAT ABOUT THE MESSIAH, THE MAITREYA, THE IMAN MAHDI ALL NAMES AND PROPHECIES FOR ME NOT JESUS! NO MATTER HOW THAT HURTS WEAK, DELUSIONAL WATSON, SMITH, HANSON AND EVEN YOU GOD DAM EMERICK!
SINCERELY
DAVID
DAVID LOUIS SITO THE CHRIST | 06.20.07 - 1:03 pm | #

Decrypting the Puzzle Palace
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...rlow_on_nsa.txt

HEY, AMERICANS!

ARE YOU READY FOR SLAVE LABOR CAMPS?

An analysis of House Bill HR 4079
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...ion_camps_1.txt

SECRET CONCENTRATION CAMPS
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...ion_camps_2.txt

PROOFS OF A CONSPIRACY
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...iracy_proof.txt
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:01 pm | #

Besides. I won't be a good little mouse and play along. You picked the wrong prey.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:59 pm | #

Anony, you are my new friend. I could really give a shit about you, what anyone posts here, or what your opinions are. I only post to get a reaction from you retards. Last nite it was Gabe. I guess today it will be you.

LOL
Amuzed

Nice try "Amuzed". But your games are transparent. On the one hand you pretend to get a rise out of PP commenters. But you also attempt to engage in actual discourse from time to time. This seems to indicate some familiarity with the subject at hand. But you are too much a coward to go beyond your own drivel. That is why you play the "mock" card, and pretend to be reactionary.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:58 pm | #

GLOBAL ELITE BRAINWASHING CHILDREN
http://www.fdrs.org/ brainwashing...g_children.html

BRAINWASHING THE CHILDREN: A GLOBAL EFFORT
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wal...lker/ jill24.htm

THE ONE WORLD ORDER: PROGRAMMING THE MASSES
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spi...la/ deanna45.htm

THE NEW WORLD ORDER

WHAT IS IT?

BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!! IT'S ALREADY HERE!!!
http://www.greatdreams.com/nwo.htm

Brainwashing in America
WHY FEW DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
Redefining "Literacy" for a New World Order

Patriots against the New World Order Totalitarianism
Lots of links here
http://www.hackcanada.com/blackc...wl/ patriot.html
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 12:56 pm | #

right Tired. Keep up the good work. Carpet bomb truth until it runneth over!
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:54 pm | #

Weishaupt scheduled the French Revolution to start in 1789. However, in 1784, a true act of God placed the Bavarian Government in possession of evidence which proved the existence of the Illuminati. And that evidence could have saved France if they, the French Government, had not refused to believe it.
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde...yde/ illumin.htm
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 12:47 pm | #

KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:52 pm | #

Otherwise, you are just a cog in the wheel of progress....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:48 pm | #

Amuzed does not have the truth in him...His head is buried too far up Bush's ASS, but I guess from that vantage point he has a good view of Colin [powell] and Dick [Cheney] though.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 12:51 pm | #

Hey Amuzed. Try changing your name and coming back as a real truther. We will be glad to welcome you!

Otherwise, you are just a cog in the wheel of progress....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:48 pm | #

Essays by Luiz Bresser-Pereira, Richard Bulliet, Bruce Cumings, Dick Howard, Neil Smith, Steve Smith, William Wallace, and William Zartman
http://www.ssrc.org/sept11/ essay...world_order.htm

The main features of the Weishaupt plan of operation required his Illuminati to do the following things to help them to accomplish their purpose:

1. Monetary and sex bribery was to be used to obtain control of men already in high places in the various levels of all governments and other fields of endeavor. Once influential persons had fallen for the lies, deceits, and temptations of the Illuminati, they were to be held in bondage by application of political and other forms of blackmail, threats of financial ruin, public exposure, and physical harm, even death to themselves and loved members of their families.

2. The Illuminati who were on the faculty of colleges and universities were to cultivate students possessing exceptional mental ability and who belonged to well-bred families with international leanings, and recommend them for special training in Internationalism. Such training was to be provided by granting scholarships, like the Rhodes Scholarship, to those selected by the Illuminati. All such scholars were to be first persuaded and then convinced that men of special talent and brains had the right to rule those less gifted on the grounds that the masses do not know what is best for them physically, mentally, and spiritually.

3. All influential people who were trapped to come under the control of the Illuminati, plus the students who had been specially educated and trained, were to be used as agents and placed behind the scenes of all governments as experts and specialists. They would advise the top executives to adopt policies which would, in the long run, serve the secret plans of the Illuminati's one world conspiracy, and bring about the destruction of the governments and religions they were elected or appointed to serve.

4. They were to obtain absolute control of the press so that all news and inforation could be slanted to convince the masses that a one world government is the only solution to our many and varied problems. They were also to own and control all the national radio and TV channels.

After reading these four points of strategy, we have to admit that our mass communications media is controlled at all levels, and that at all levels our governments are also infiltrated and controlled, just like Weishaupt had planned back in the 1700's. Unfortunately, few people are aware of this fact, which is why they make little sense out of many of the world events that take place today.

Let us now go back to the first days of the Illuminati.

Because Britain and France were the two greatest world powers in the late years of the 18th Century, Weishaupt ordered the Illuminati to foment the colonial wars, including the Revolutionary War in America, to weaken the British Empire. They were also ordered to organize the French Revolution in order to destroy the French Empire.

Weishaupt scheduled the French Revolution to start in 1789. However, in 1784, a true act of God placed the Bavarian Government in possession of evidence which proved the existence of the Illuminati. And that evidence could have saved France if they, the French Government, had not refused to believe it.
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde...yde/ illumin.htm
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 12:47 pm | #

If you are not lending a hand in this fight, you are part of the problem. Or you are just furniture to be sat on by the fat NWO swine.

You have expressed enough initiative to look into the disinfo. Now, try connecting the "real" dots....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:45 pm | #

Now keep chuckling....While people are being set-up to die at the expense of your aid.

NOT AMUZED.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:43 pm | #

Please Amuzed.

The problem with you is that your "troofiness" and "moonbat" like qualities include parroting the disinfo.

You fail to account for all the peripheral information that can be cross-referenced and studied along with (motive), including who stands the most to gain, and who has a criminal track record of lying to the American public over and over with documents like Northwoods Operation (that should alarm even you) and pretending not to support the United Nations with public record documents like State Department Publication 7277, that calls for eventual world government.

This is the real modus operandi. It is all about the globalist use of the Hegelian Dialectic. And you are the sorry sap falling for it!
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:42 pm | #

PhD Electrical Engineering, Purdue University, December 1987
MS Physics, Purdue University, December 1986
BS Physics, University of Liege, Belgium, July 1981
http://www.ececs.uc.edu/~mcahay/...y/ cahayres2.pdf

Process Technology
http://www.innovations-report.co...?show=10& page=8

Information Technology
http://www.innovations-report.co...?show=7& page=40

Third Annual JIBS/AIB/CIBER Conference on Emerging Research Frontiers in International Business
http://ciberweb.msu.edu/ activity...ionRecordID=346

REAL Staff
REAL staff members are drawn primarily from its founding institutions, the University of Illinois and the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
http://www.real.uiuc.edu/staff/staff.htm

Lets see Amuzed, Purdue did a "study", and such stidies are funded by the GOVERNMENT, On the WTC and 911, Now in a GOVERNMENT funded study why would they find anything that does not go along with the official story? However to your comment that we back nothing up with science why don't you look at INDEPENDENT research, check out the findings of DR. Steven Jones, or I don't know use your OWN brain, assuming that you have one. But then again you only believe what your overinfalted ego, and non existent superiority tells you. But the truth is you are simply a legend in your own mind. How sad is it that you have so great a life that your "amuzment" has to come from mocking people on blogs. How sad a life do you have? But there is good news for you, the FEMA camps are ready and so your sad life is about to get sadder. But I guess you won't be so "amuzed" then will you?
See, most of us come here for info, most of us are willing to fight for the liberty of this country, the liberty you mock here and take for granted. hat is the only sad part I see about fighting for liberty, because people like you will reap the benefits of it. People like you who mock it, and are blind to the enemies of it. people like you who believe in nothing except the Intelligence that you believe you possess that trully does not exist because your truth and your opinions are only what the GOVERNMENT tells you they are.
So, go peddal your snake oil somewhere else charlotan, this site is for the truth and freedom and liberty, not for those Like you who will willingly submit to their NWO masters and take it up the ass and say "thank you sir may i have another"
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 12:41 pm | #

AMUZED, as usual you are too little too late:

>>>TOTAL BS ALERT!!!!!!
Simulation finds 9/11 fireproofing key

sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 8:50 am | #
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=20770#97646
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:34 pm | #

Metaphysics of Immunity:
SARS and Chemtrails
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ m...ty07may03.shtml

Chemtrails: Suppression of Human Evolution
http://educate-yourself.org/mnt/ ...on29sep00.shtml

DEATH BY PLAGUE: REINTRODUCING THE INFAMOUS "BLACK PLAGUE" UPON THE WORLD THROUGH AVIAN BIRD FLU -- THE DEADLY DISEASE RENAMED!
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/.../news/ n2088.cfm

Russian Economist Tatyana Koryagina Uncovers New Players
in the New World Order Drama
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ..._koryagnia.html

OUR MASONIC GOVERNMENT AND THEIR HIDDEN AGENDA
TOWARD TOTAL SOCIAL CONTROL
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com....uk/ part_6.html

CONTEST FOR RUSSIAN-DUTCH (RFBR-NWO) PROJECTS 2005
http://www.rfbr.ru/eng/default.a...asp? doc_id=6136

Project: Genen en routes die kritisch zijn bij de ontwikkeling van atherosclerose
http://www.onderzoekinformatie.n...oek/OND1308429/

NWO | Huygens Lecture 2003
http://www.ruf.rice.edu/ ~mikosgr...gensLecture.pdf

Genetically Engineered Foods
http://www.realtruth.org/article...223- gefwtc.html

Bovine Growth Hormone, Genetic Engineering & the New World Order
http://www.mindfully.org/GE/GE3/...BGH-Got- Pus.htm
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 12:26 pm | #

Here is another one for you nutballs. Of course, you wont believe it. You dont use science to back up your troofiness, just bullshit.

Wednesday, June 20, 2007
By STEVE HERMAN, Associated Press Writer
INDIANAPOLIS — A computer simulation of the 2001 World Trade Center attacks supports a federal agency's findings that the initial impact from the hijacked airplanes stripped away crucial fireproofing material and that the weakened towers collapsed under their own weight.
The two-year Purdue University study, funded in part by the National Science Foundation, was the first to use 3-D animation to provide visual context to the attacks, said Christoph Hoffmann, a professor of computer science and one of the lead researchers on the project.
"One thing it does point out... is the absolute essential nature of fireproofing steel structures," Hoffmann told The Associated Press. "This is something that wasn't done originally in the World Trade Center when it was built. It wasn't code at that time."
Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering and a lead investigator on the simulation, said Purdue researchers hope their work leads to better structural design and building codes to prevent similar collapses.
"In the unfortunate development that we shall have to design structures to survive such events, the methods we have developed and will be developing will be of great use to designers," Sozen said.
The animation, intended in part to help engineers design safer buildings, begins with a map of lower Manhattan as it appeared on Sept. 11, 2001. The video then shows a plane slicing through several stories of the World Trade Center's north tower and follows the disintegrating plane through the interior and out the opposite side.
The report concludes that the weight of the aircraft's fuel, when ignited, produced "a flash flood of flaming liquid" that knocked out a number of structural columns within the building and removed the fireproofing insulation from other support structures, Hoffmann said.
The simulation also found that the airplane's metal skin peeled away shortly after impact and shows how the titanium jet engine shafts flew through the building like bullets.
Ayhan Irfanoglu, a Purdue professor of civil engineering, said half of the building's weight-bearing columns were concentrated at the cores of the towers.
"When that part is wiped out, the structure comes down," Irfanoglu said. "We design structures with some extra capacity to cover some uncertainties, but we never anticipate such heavy demand coming from an aircraft impact. If the columns were distributed, maybe, the fire could not take them out so easily."
A 2005 report following a three-year investigation by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, a federal engineering agency, recommended that cities raise fire standards for skyscrapers and develop new materials that can better protect tall buildings from fire. That analysis did not blame the collapse on the steel or design of the towers, but instead focused on the damage to the fireproofing.
Shyam Sunder, the lead NIST investigator, said he was aware of the Purdue study and called it and his own agency's study "among probably the most prominent analyses that have been conducted in the United States."
The animation is the latest project by the Purdue team to assess the structural damage from the Sept. 11 attacks. The team also studied the impact of the crash into the Pentagon.
See the Purdue study:
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/news/6-.../6-15- 07WTC.htm
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:23 pm | #

Republicans Refuse To Ban Human Cloning
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...an- cloning.html

So now Hienous crimes against humanity isn't enough, they want to commit crimes against nature too.

Atlantean Mad Scientists Clone Human Embryo
by AP/AFP
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/...m? ChannelID=100

Close the Door on Cloning
http://www.nationalreview.com/ co...ith011402.shtml

CLONING: SOLUTIONS CREATE QUESTIONS
http://www.newswithviews.com/Hay...yes/ gianni2.htm

ZonMw Support for Stem Cell Research
http://www.stemcellforum.org.uk/ ...development.cfm

Cloning: Good or Evil?
http://www.americanchronicle.com...? articleID=1949

Closing in on Cloning
http://www.n2itiveweb.com/noelfo...topic=& display=

UK Stem Cell Initiative [UKSCI]
http:// www.advisorybodies.doh.go...netherlands.htm

Human Immunoglobulin A Receptor (FcRI, CD89) Function in Transgenic Mice Requires Both FcR Chain and CR3 (CD11b/CD1
http://bloodjournal.hematologyli...full/93/12/ 4387
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 12:16 pm | #

MILITARY COMMISSIONS ACT: A PRECURSOR TO TYRANNY?
http://mrspickles.wordpress.com/...sor-to-tyranny/

The Military Commissions Act 2006
http://netctr.com/milcommact.html

Enemy Combatant Military Commissions Act of 2006
http://xiandos.info/ Enemy_Combat...ons_Act_of_2006

How the Military Commissions Obscure Gitmo's Real Purpose
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...ure- gitmos.html

Why Is Bush Waiting On Military Commissions Act?
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...bushwaiting.htm

Military Commissions Act Does Affect US Citizens
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...6doesaffect.htm

Thunder on the Mountain: The Murderers of Democracy
http://www.chris-floyd.com/index...=860& Itemid=135

Habeas corpus matters according to the Military Commissions Act of 2006
http://caosblog.com/3854

When the People fear the Government you have an Oppressive Dictatorship....When the Government Fears the People you have A free Democracy!
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 12:08 pm | #

Anyone believe Michael Moore’s latest bullshit crockumentary? NYPost’s Kyle Smith trashes the validity of Moore’s latest stupidity. Here is an excerpt:
“Regardless of whether any particular claim in “Sicko” is true, no one doubts that lots of insured and uninsured Americans face health-care crises. So far, Moore is master of the obvious. We all hate insurance companies and red tape, and we all want to improve the system. Where do we go from here?
To France, Britain and Canada, says Moore, who presents each of them as a health-care paradise. But lots of people in those countries have health-care nightmares of their own. Here’s how easy it is to lie by anecdote: Say I wanted to make a film about gay black Republicans who live in Chelsea. I find ten of them, make a film about them, and you walk out of the theater thinking: Wow, so many gay black Republicans in Chelsea! The six years it took me to find these ten guys will go unnoted.
All three countries are edging away from how Moore portrays them. Moore knows that in France, where he praises not only the health service but limits on working hours, expansive unemployment benefits and the country’s three preferred forms of exercise—street-marching, banner-hoisting and strikes—a new conservative president was just elected by promising to cut back on such nonsense. (According to Moore, if you need a babysitter or help with the laundry, the French government will send a trained professional right over.)
Everywhere he looks, Moore finds French happiness. But this phrase is as close to an oxymoron as French rock. In a poll, 85 percent of the French recently said their country is heading in the wrong direction. Right direction? Nine percent. In France in 2003, 15,000 mostly elderly hospital patients died in an August heat wave–because hospitals lack air conditioning and doctors were on vacation. The French parliament blamed the health care system. That’s five times 9/11’s toll, all of it preventable, all of it unlamented by Moore.
Moore knows that in Britain, where National Health Service spending has more than doubled since Tony Blair was elected, with little to show for it, there is a two-tier health system: the smart set carry private insurance, which Moore wants to outlaw in the U.S. The cliché in London (check out this story and this one) is that the well-shod go to the same doctor as the suckers on the National Health Service. The difference is that private clients get treated right away while the NHS losers wait two years to get their strep throat looked at.
Moore glosses over wait times, hoping his audience is too stupid to notice. He asks a handful of Canadian patients how long they had to wait to see the doctor. Oh, 20 minutes, 45 minutes, everyone says. So if Moore finds five people who didn’t have to wait, there’s no waiting for anybody!”
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:04 pm | #

Soldier: US Military Needs to Secure Borders
Tracey Caldwell Shares More Ideas From Her Son in Iraq
By TRACEY CALDWELL Posted 0 hr. 29 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index..._Secure_Borders
Majid Saeedi/Getty Images

Someone wrote to tell me that my son had not given any details for his plan to secure Iraq, so I wrote and asked him for more.

My son says that his plan to get out of Iraq as soon as possible would require securing the borders to prevent the "refueling" of the insurgency, and letting the Iraqi army do the fighting in the cities and villages. Even if they were not fully prepared, they would learn. He would also build refugee camps for the smart people who don't want to be caught in the middle.

He said that while we have had some successful missions in Iraq, they have mostly been "Operation Chase Out the Bad Guys" when what we need is "Operation Control the Border." He acknowledged:

"No one joins the Army or goes to war thinking that they are going to sit in an M-1114 (a Humvee), watching the road in the middle of a 120 degree day, not a private, not a sergeant, not a lieutenant, not a commander, not a colonel, and not a general. Everyone pictures themselves jumping off a helicopter onto a battlefield and killing lots and lots of bad guys. Even cooks, finance clerks, mechanics, and communication specialists, believe they are going to do something cool, like killing bad guys. So you can't really expect them to get excited about something like border patrol. The commanders certainly aren't going to volunteer their unit to do border control."

This creates a problem for the generals. As my son explains it, even if the generals recognize the need to secure borders, they have a hard time delegating it to the hundreds of commanders at their disposal because no one wants to do border patrol. Therefore, no commander is going to come up with any good plans. The general could turn to his staff, but they are desk jockeys, and no one wants to be on a mission planed by a desk jockey. That would leave the generals to plan their own operation. Unfortunately, most generals probably haven't built their own operations since they were captains in Panama, or even Vietnam.

Building operations are not simple, especially one as complex and important as securing borders in Iraq. There are so many things to consider, like refugee camps. Where should we put them? Can we get help from other countries? How do we feed and take care of all the refugees. The bases we have built, do we give them to the Iraqi Army? Should we build new bases on the borders? How do we transition for the current operation to the new one? How would we train soldiers to pursue this sort of operation? Do we have the right equipment? Do we have enough men? If we need more men, how many? Where would we put them? Can we create secure supply routes to the border to transport the things the soldiers need? Where should we start first on the borders? What are the hot spots? How could we keep soldiers from starting fights with other countries? How long would we have to secure the borders for the insurgents in Iraq to run out of money and resources? He said, "There are lots of other things to consider that I probably can not even imagine, so the generals have a lot of work ahead of them."

So from my son's little spot on the battlefield, with his twenty-seven years of life and six years of military experience, these are his ideas for a plan that might eventually lead to getting our soldier home from Iraq.

Tracey-Kay Caldwell is the mother of a soldier, Democratic Party Editor of BellaOnline.com, and a freelance writer. She can be reached at IraqSoldierMom@gmail.com.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 11:57 am | #

Collections of the Month, February 2003: Cecil John Rhodes (1853-1902)
http://www.archiveshub.ac.uk/feb...uk/ feb03a.shtml
The Collections Selected links Southern Africa before Rhodes Cecil Rhodes Rhodes Family

Above: cartoon postcard of Rhodes and General Cronje, 1900: "Greetings from Kimberley" (GB 0162 MSS. Afr. r. 256).

Rhodes was born in 1853 at Bishops Stortford and educated at the town's grammar school till 1869, when his health broke down. Sent to Natal in southern Africa in 1870, initially to grow cotton, he later began prospecting for diamonds in Kimberley. As his claim prospered, Rhodes began amalgamating several smaller holdings in the De Beers Mine. By the 1880s he held one of the biggest claims in Kimberley and, after successfully launching a legal attack on his main rival, he founded the De Beers Consolidated Mines Co., gaining a virtual monopoly on the South African mining industry and on world production. He also founded Consolidated Gold Fields of South Africa in 1887 after the discovery of gold in the Transvaal.

An avid classicist, he returned to England in 1873 and matriculated at Oriel College, Oxford, though a chill which spread to his heart and lungs, thought at the time to be immediately life-threatening, prevented him from graduating until 1881. While at Oxford, he came into contact with the strands of political ideology which would later lead to the scramble for colonies by the European states. The effect this had on Rhodes is evident from his 1877 will, in which he disposed a future fortune to the establishment of a secret society dedicated to the extension of British rule worldwide.

During the early part of the decade, the Transvaal began to develop satellite republics in the lands of the Tswana north of the Orange River and to forge agreements with Germany (which had annexed South-West Africa in 1884). In 1880, Rhodes was elected to the Cape legislature, and cultivated the friendships of key men as his influence increased. His lobbying of the British government through the Cape legislature, together with anti-Boer propaganda in Britain itself, led to the establishment of a British colony in Tswana territory in 1885 and of the Bechuanaland Protectorate to the north.

In the 1880s there were rumours of the discovery of gold in the territories of the Ndebele and Shona peoples north of the Transvaal. In the face of competition from German and Transvaal interests, the king of the Ndebele, Lobengula was persuaded by Rhodes to grant him mining rights in Ndebele territory. This grant was used in 1889 as the basis for the foundation of the British South Africa Company, a chartered organisation with quasi-governmental powers. The territory immediately under its control was named Rhodesia. The initial actions of the Company in Ndebele territory, and the pressure on land by incoming settlers led to war with the Ndebele, 1894-1895 and 1897, though British success was assured by a mixture of technical superiority and Rhodes's own diplomacy. During the 1890s Rhodes extended the Company's control northwards to the shores of Lake Nyasa.

In 1890 Rhodes was elected Prime Minister of Cape Colony. During his premiership he began the first stretch of his planned Cape-Cairo railway line (he later constructed a telegraph line between the same points). He made efforts to develop Afrikaner farms and introduced dues favourable to Dutch farmers, while at the same time restricting non-European voting rights and effectively establishing an Africans-only residential policy in Glen Grey. His premiership ended after implication in the Jameson Raid of 1895, involving an attempt to incite unrest in the Transvaal. His standing was further diminished by his support for the South African War of 1899-1902, during which he was besieged in Kimberley. Shortly afterwards, his health deteriorated, and he died in 1902 at Muizenberg. His will bequeathed part of his fortune to the foundation of 160 scholarships at Oxford for men of the colonies, the U.S.A., and Germany.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 11:52 am | #

To survive amid nihilism one must find a philosophy. Here's mine:

Once grasp the great Form without form
And you roam where you will
With no evil to fear
Calm, peaceful, at ease.

At music and viands
The wayfarer stops.
But the Way, when declared
Seems thin and so flavorless!

It is nothing to look at
And nothing to hear;
But used, it will prove
Inexhaustible.

- Tao Te Ching, poem 35, tr. R. B. Blakney as The Way of Life.

Knowledge frequently results
from knowing others,
but the man who is awakened,
has seen the uncarved block.

Others might be mastered by force,
but to master one's self
requires the Tao.

He who has many material things,
may be described as rich,
but he who knows he has enough,
and is at one with the Tao,
might have enough of material things,
and have self-being as well.

Will-power may bring perseverance;
but to have tranquility is to endure,
being protected for all his days.

He whose ideas remain in the world,
is present for all time.

- Tao Te Ching, poem 33, tr. S. Rosenthal.

Henry C K Liu on Taoism and Modernity: daoist.html.

Readers who study this site thoroughly will realise that a certain amount of contradictory material is presented. That's because the truth is not always clear; and also because it's beneficial to "read around the topic", seeing a variety of viewpoints.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 11:34 am | #

Neither Aryan Nor Jew This site is for serious researchers of the "higher tribalism" (Aryanism, Zionism, Nihonism etc), Globalization and World Government. I cannot support those who deny the common humanity of the different peoples, or who oppose intermarriage between them. Freedom for the Rich is Slavery for the Poor. World Government affects everyone - everyone therefore needs to know about it.

Peter Myers. This website was created in Canberra, Australia. Ring me at +61 7 41262296. This index page revised March 1, 2007; pages on the website are individually dated. Bold emphasis added to all files unless stated otherwise. Write to me at mailto:myers@cyberone.com.au, or at mailto:peter.myers@mailstar.net.

You are at http://users.cyberone.com.au/mye...yers/ index.html.

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The name of this site is inspired by St. Paul's proclamation "There is neither Jew nor Greek". See the commentary on this text.

Beat Big Brother! You can download this site as a set of zip files, run it offline on your home computer, and make CD copies of it. 4th edition: offline.html.

To join my email list, write to me at mailto:myers@cyberone.com.au, or at mailto:peter.myers@mailstar.net; use a meaningful subject, so that I can distinguish it from spam.

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About the Author
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Themes: The standard Marxist view obscures the role of religion as a motivator, e.g. in Zionism. Equally, the Hegelian position obscures the extent to which universal religion conceals particularist self-interest: Christianity became a mask for Aryanism. As the mask is removed, "White Christians" face a painful spiritual crisis. The Problem with Whites: whites.html.

Denis Freney on the 1971 Springbok tour of Australia. This was a major setback for the apartheid regime in South Africa, and a mind-altering event in Australia: freney.html.

"The Aryans will enlarge and beautify the earth; but they will settle to enjoy the world which they created only in the tents of the Jews. These tents are communism, internationalism, the universal brotherhood of man, the emancipation of the working class and the human society - a society of free and morally autonomous rational human beings. The destiny of the Aryans is to become Jews" - Rabbi Harry Waton, A Program For The Jews, 1939, p. 102: zioncom.html.

"... the Jews sought to revise, redraw, and replace the basic tenets of the West" - Ben-Ami Shillony (a Jewish Professor), The Jews and the Japanese, p. 64: japan.html.

The One World movement has three factions, which co-operate with one another against "nationalism" or "isolationism". They are (a) the Tory (Imperial) (b) the International Socialist (Trotskyist, Fabian & Green Left, against the Stalinist Left) (c) the Zionist: british-conspiracy.html.

The first delivers the "Right", the second delivers the "Left" to One-Worldism: oneworld.html.

The Balfour Declaration of 1917 marked the joining-up of the Tory and Zionist factions in an uneasy alliance. Before that, they were working against each other (Britain was pro-Czar, the Zionists were anti-Czar).

The International Socialist faction is also what H. G. Wells called "the Open Conspiracy": opensoc.html. It promotes Political Correctness, the World Court, and the Kyoto Protocol. It tried to get a world government established at the Peace Conference of Versailles in 1919: toolkit3.html, and also via the Baruch Plan for World Government, in 1946: baruch-plan.html.

This faction mounted the Bolshevik Revolution: lenin-trotsky.html. Isaac Deutscher wrote in Russia After Stalin, "During the early years of the Soviet regime, the Bolshevik leaders had the feeling that they were Marxists in partibus infidelium, West European revolutionaries acting against a non-congenial Oriental background ... " (p. 32): beria.html.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 11:21 am | #

Wells does not envisage world government through a world parliament:

"in a polyglot world a parliament of mankind or any sort of council that meets and talks is an inconceivable instrument of government" (p. 31). Rather, "the new directive organizations of men's affairs will not be of the same nature as old-fashioned governments. They will be in their nature biological, financial, and generally economic." (p. 32).

"Some method of decision there must certainly be and a definite administrative machinery. But it may turn out to be a much slighter, less elaborate organization than a consideration of existing methods might lead us to imagine. It may never become one single interlocking administrative system. We may have systems of world control rather than a single world state" (pp. 31-2).

World Government is a benign imperialism, a new kind of white man's burden:

"By its own organizations or through the police and military strength of governments amenable to its ideas, the movement is bound to find itself fighting for open roads, open frontiers, freedom of speech, and the realities of peace in regions of oppression. The Open Conspiracy rests upon a disrespect for nationality, and there is no reason why it should tolerate noxious or obstructive governments because they hold their own in this or that patch of human territory. It lies within the power of the Atlantic communities to impose peace upon the world and secure unimpeded movement and free speech from end to end of the earth" (p. 89).

The revolt of colonised regions of the world, India, China, Africa etc., against the European Empires, is assisted by the Open Conspiracy, and it invites their amenable leaders - the "finer, more emergetic minds" (p. 5 to move "from the sinking vessel of their antiquated order, across their present conquerors, into a brotherhood of world rulers" (p. 59). They are encouraged to turn to "the problem of saving and adapting all that is rich and distinctive of their inheritance to the common ends of the race" (p. 59).

"But to the less virorous intelligences of this outer world" - those not willing to submit - "the new project of the Open Conspiracy will seem no better than a new form of Western envelopment, and they will fight a mighty liberation as though it were a further enslavement to the European tradition. They will watch the Open Conspiracy for any signs of conscious superiority and racial disregard. Necessarily they will recognize it as a product of Western mentality ..." (p. 59).

Wells clearly presents a three-stage policy: 1. colonisation on the basis of the white race and the Christian religion 2. decolonisation: the attack on stage 1, an attack supported by the Open Conspiracy 3. recolonisation on a non-racial basis, by a new elite selected from all countries.

This has a direct bearing on the present situation in South Africa and China. The British Commonwealth and the United States helped the anti-apartheid movement, but are now imposing a new servitude, that of the free-market economy. This combination of Left social policy with Right economic policy is the characteristic feature of the Open Conspiracy. China has been assisted to modernise, but it too is being asked to submit to a new Western-imposed order, and is presently deciding whether to fight "a mighty liberation" to retain its independence. But, Wells says, the Open Conspiracy is not averse to bloodshed: "The establishment of the world community will surely exact a price - and who can tell what that price may be? - in toil, suffering, and blood" (p.91).

The method used by the Open Conspiracy within a country, is not military but "an incessant critical educational and propagandist activity" (p. 32).

"A lucid, dispassionate, and immanent criticism is the primary necessity, the living spirit of a world civilization" (p. 32).

"For each [social] class it has a conception of modification and development, and each class it approaches therefore at a distinctive angle. ... It must fight upon several fronts and with many sorts of equipment. It will have a common spirit, but it is quite conceivable that between many of its contributory factors there may be very wide gaps in understanding and sympathy. It is no sort of simple organization" (p. 47).

"There should be many types of groups. Collective action had better for a time - perhaps for a long time - be undertaken not through the merging of groups but through the formation of ad hoc associations for definitely specific ends, all making for the new world civilization. Open Conspirators will come into these associations to make a contribution." (p. 72).

"In this book we are not starting something; we are describing and participating in something which has started. ... To-day it may seem no more than a visionary idea; to-morrow it may be recognized as a world-wide force of opinion and will" (p. 73). "While the Open Conspiracy is no more than a discussion it may spread unopposed because it is disregarded. As a mainly passive resistance to militarism it may still be tolerable. But as its knowledge and experience accumulate and its organization become more effective and aggressive, as it begins to lay hands upon education, upon social habits, upon business developments, as it proceeds to take over the organization of the community, it will marshal not only its own forces but its enemies." (p. 90). "Our conception of an almost bloodless domination of the Atlantic communities may be merely the confident dream of a thinker whose thoughts have yet to be squarely challenged" (p. 90).

Wells appeals to Marxists to abandon Communism:

"It has pleased the vanity of the Communist party to imagine itself conducting a propaganda of world revolution. Its fate may be to develop upon lines that will make its more intelligent elements easily assimilable to the Open Conspiracy for a world revolution" (p. 60).

This seems to have happened to Mikhail Gorbachev. He abandoned Communism in order to join a single "world civilization".

Sections of the British Labour Party, having ousted Marx, are now turning openly to Wells.

H. G. Wells saw the end of World War I as an opportunity to create a new world. He supported both Lenin, and the attempt to create a World Government at the Treaty of Versailles. He also advocated the creation of a Jewish state: wells-lenin-league.html.

His ideas for a united world drew on Jewish thought, in discussions with David Lubin and Israel Zangwill.

Michael Higger, in his book The Jewish Utopia, explains that whereas Plato's Republic "is chiefy concerned with what will hold the ideal city together", "The rabbis, on the other hand, are mainly interested in that ideology which would hold the whole world, or the Universal State, together." (p. 5).

Higger writes that "A Jewish Utopia begins where Wells leaves off" (p. 6). That means, that the Zionists would assist the implementation of Wells' plan, then turn it into their own: : jewish-utopia.html.

H. G. Wells, Lionel Curtis, Henry Wickham Steed & Lord Grey advocate the League of Nations as a World Government - The Atlantic Monthly, 1919, January & February: house-schiff.html.

H.G. Wells' plans for World Government:

(1) The Open Conspiracy: opencon.html

(2) 4 other books by H.G. Wells on World Government: hgwells.html.

The One World Or None report of 1946: one-world-or-none.html.

Back to the One World index: oneworld.html.

Write to me at mailto:myers@cyberone.com.au.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 11:17 am | #

Ron Paul on MSNBC's Decision '08

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R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 11:16 am | #

Open Society, Open Conspiracy

Peter Myers, 3 Sept 1997; update April 17, 2004; bold emphasis added.

You are at http://users.cyberone.com.au/mye...rs/ opensoc.html.

Is the takeover of national economies, by the forces of Globalism, purely an ad hoc process, or does it operate to a plan? Could there be anything "conspiratorial" about it?

These days, conspiracy theories are considered a mark of the Far Right. However, the Marxist analysis of ideology is also conspiratorial: the leading purveyors of ideology, such as economists professing laissez-faire principles, are seen as willing and deliberate deceivers of their victims.

In 1946, just after the last world war, there were two huge armies in the world, those of the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. If ever there was a time when a world government might have been formed, this was it: if they had joined up, no other force could have resisted them.

Such a proposal was put in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists over several months in 1946. In his book Has Man a Future?, Bertrand Russell - an advocate of world government - describes how it developed, first as a proposal assembled by David Lilienthal, then in a form developed by Bernard Baruch (p. 25 & p. 97): russell2.html.

This Baruch Plan for World Government was canvassed in the issues of 1946 and put to Stalin: baruch-plan.html. By the end of that year, Stalin had rejected it, on the grounds that it required submission to Washington, and the Cold War had begun.

But what is most interesting is Bertrand Russell's article in the issue of October 1, 1946, titled The Atomic Bomb and the Prevention of War, where he writes,

"The American and British governments ... should make it clear that genuine international cooperation is what they most desire. But although peace should be their goal, they should not let it appear that they are for peace at any price. At a certain stage, when their plan (sic) for an international government are ripe, they should offer them to the world ... If Russia acquiesced willingly, all would be well. If not, it would be necessary to bring pressure to bear, even to the extent of risking war".

For a man with a reputation as a pacifist, it reads like a declaration of war. Given that the U.S. government had only recently demonstrated its firepower at Hisoshima, Russell's strongarm tactics would hardly have seemed enticing to Stalin. The theory that Communism is a Jewish conspiracy is clearly refuted, in that although Baruch and Lilienthal were Jews, they were on the Capitalist side.

Fifty years later, with the end of the Cold War, a similar scenario is upon us. Secretary of State Madeline Albright recently announced, "No nation in the world need be left out of the system we are constructing. ... We must take advantage of this historic opportunity that now exists to bring the world together in an international system based on democracy, open markets, law and a committment to peace" (Sydney Morning Herald, June 6, 1997). She conceded that "not every nation is yet ready to play its full part in this system", but said the world had no despot like the Soviet dictator Josef Stalin, who at the time of the Marshall Plan prevented eastern Europe from joining in.

H.G. Wells, like Russell an advocate of world government, wrote a book called The Open Conspiracy (1933): opencon.html. It was subsequently published under the title What Are We To Do With Our Lives?, but the quotes herein are from the 1933 edition, which was unusual in that it bears no publisher's name; bold emphasis is added.

The "Open Conspiracy", Wells says, is "a movement aiming at the establishment of a world directorate" (p. 33), "the world movement for the supercession or fusion of existing political, economic, and social institutions" (p. 32), "the working religion of most sane and energetic people" (p. 73).

In some respects, Wells' vision is Marxist: he supported the decolonisation movement, and has even been touted as one of the authors of Woodrow Wilson's 14-Point Plan (David C. Smith, H.G. Wells: Desperately Mortal, pp. 238 & 431).

In The Open Conspiracy he praises the U.S.S.R. for clearing away the old order (p. 60), and for the mental stimulation of their Five Year Plans, in the sense that through them "the idea of reorganizing the affairs of the world on quite a big scale", previously seen as utopian, came to be widely seen as realistic (p. 15); the world government he advocates would be anti-racist (p. 63), anti-nationalist (p. 73) and cosmopolitan. It would aim at eliminating sickness, famine and tyranny, and prevent over-population (p. 2.

Yet in other respects, Wells is quite anti-Marxist: "In practice Marxism is found to work out in a ready resort to malignantly destructive activities, and to be so uncreative as to be practically impotent in the face of material difficulties" (p. 45). "If now we reject the error and accept the truth, we lose the delusive comfort of belief in that magic giant, the Proletariat, who will dictate, arrange, restore, and create, but we clear the way for the recognition of an elite of intelligent, creative-minded people scattered through the whole community" (p.45).

I read Wells' criticism of "Marxism" in this book of 1933 as an attack on Stalinism. This is because he was a leading supporter of the early Soviet regime. Wells and the Webbs supported Trotsky (against Stalin) at the time of his Expulsion from the USSR: wells-lenin-league.html.

Pitirim Sorokin on Wells' visit to Russia in 1920: kronstadt.html.

"The Open Conspiracy ... starts with a proposal not to exalt the labour class but to abolish it, its sustaining purpose is to throw drudges out of employment and eliminate the inept - and it is far more likely to incur suspicion and distrust in the lower ranks of the developing industrial order of to-day than to win support there" (pp. 56-7). "Our hope for the human future does not lie in crowd psychology and the indiscriminating rule of universal democracy" (p. 56).

The new overclass, functioning as an elite like the old aristocracy of the British Empire, yet anti-monarchical and anti-Christian, combining right-wing economic policies with left-wing social policies - this is the very elite seen by Wells as running the world government:

"And when we come to the general functioning classes, landowners, industrial organizers, bankers, and so forth, who control the present system, such as it is, it should be still plainer that it is very largely from the ranks of these classes, and from their stores of experience and traditions of method, that the directive forces of the new order must emerge. The Open Conspiracy can have nothing to do with the heresy that the path of human progress lies through an extensive class war" (p. 46).
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 11:16 am | #

(4) Admiration from Oswald Spengler and Hitler

The following information comes from http://www.cecilrhodes.net/secret.html

{quote}
Cecil Rhodes' incredible achievements - one of the richest men in the world, the creator of the De Beers diamond empire, the founder of a new country, and the originator of the Rhodes Scholarships - were motivated by one single thing, his 'great idea'.

This idea came to him at the age of 24 with the force of a religious revelation. What is interesting is that it struck him in the hours immediately following his initiation into the Masonic Order while at Oxford University. ...

On the evening after the ceremony, Rhodes sat pondering what had happened that day. Then, as he puts it, the 'idea gleaming and dancing before one's eyes like a will-of-the-wisp at last frames itself into a plan'.

He proceeded to pen his `Confession of Faith' in which he outlined his ambition: to establish a secret society whose objective would be the furtherance of the British Empire and the uniting of the entire Anglo-Saxon race, including America, into one single empire.

From that day, June 2, 1877, Rhodes was a man with a mission, with his `Confession of Faith' his guiding star and inspiration. When he had grown to trust anybody, he would confidentially reveal his 'idea' to him and expect the man's life to be changed immediately. ...

Three months after his Masonic induction at Oxford, Rhodes was back at the diamond diggings of Kimberley, in South Africa. One night, while staying in his bachelor quarters, a very strange thing happened. `His friends', according to his biographer Sir Lewis Michell, `found him in his room, blue with fright, his door barricaded with a chest of drawers and other furniture; he insisted that he had seen a ghost.' Immediately after this pivotal crisis, Rhodes had his previously penned `Confession of Faith' (which also contained his last will and testament) legally formalised by a Kimberley attorney. From then on, his star was in the ascendent. ...

The German scientist, Oswald Spengler, in his `Decline and Fall of Civilisation in the West', described the spirit of colonial expansion which possessed Rhodes as something, `daemonic and immense, which grips, forces into service and uses up mankind.' And herein lies the clue to the careers of both Rhodes and Hitler, that at a point in their lives, they both encountered something `daemonic'.

In the years after the end of the First World War, Rhodes began to receive attention from the European political right wing precisely because his career showed such an elemental will to power. In 1918 the intellectual prophet of German Nazism, Oswald Spengler, published the first volume his famous work, 'The Decline of the West'. In this book, Spengler regards Rhodes with almost mystical awe, as a prototype of a new sort of leader. 'Rhodes is to be regarded as the first precursor of a western type of Caesar. He stands midway between Napolean and the force-men of the next centuries....in our Germanic world, the spirits of Alaric and Theodoric will come again - there is a first hint of them in Cecil Rhodes.'

Hitler himself appears to have made only one reference to Rhodes: at a dinner on April 18, 1942, he discussed Britain's failure to maintain the world position it had held in the Victorian age and commented that the only person who had understood the historical conditions for continuing British supremacy was Cecil Rhodes, whom the British had ignored.
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Both Aryanists and Zionists have a similar will-to-power. This explains how both were attracted to Nietzsche. The Zionist attachment is seen here: nietzsche.html
and the Aryanist here: nietzsche2.html

I, however, reject both. Thus "Neither Aryan Nor Jew".
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 11:13 am | #

(3) The Zionist connection

From Sarah Gertrude Millin, Rhodes, London, Chatto Windus 1933, p. 85:

"The crux, as Rhodes would have expressed it, was the French Company. It all depended on who could buy out the French Company. Rhodes did so. He was associated now in this business with the Hamburg Jew, Alfred Beit. ... He was richer even than Rhodes. The path from one Jew to another is an easy one. Rhodes went to England to see Lord Rothschild, and Lord Rothschild approved of him. Within a few days, as Rhodes described it in a subsequent speech, he had three-quarters of a million pounds."

Carroll Quigley reveals in The Anglo-American Establishment, p. 34:

"In each of his seven wills, Rhodes entrusted his bequest to a group of men to carry out his purpose. In the first will, as we have seen, the trustees were Lord Carnarvon and Sidney Shippard. In the second will (1882), the sole trustee was his friend N. E. Pickering. In the third will (188, Pickering having died, the sole trustee was Lord Rothschild. In the fourth will (1891), W. T. Stead was added, while in the fifth (1892), Rhodes's solicitor, B. F. Hawksley, was added to the previous two. In the sixth (1893) and seventh (1899) wills, the personnel of the trustees shifted considerably, ending up, at Rhodes's death in 1902, with a board of seven trustees: Lord Milner, Lord Rosebery, Lord Grey, Alfred Beit {of Rothschild's faith: see p. 135}, L. L. Michell, B. F. Hawksley, and Dr. Starr Jameson. This is the board to which the world looked to set up the Rhodes Scholarships." quigley.html.

In World War I, the British Empire had to go cap-in-hand to Lord Rothschild, to get the US to join the war. In return, Britain had to guarantee Palestine as a Jewish homeland; this contract was the basis of the creation of the state of Israel.

Robert John, Behind the Balfour Declaration: balfour.html

Strangely, the Balfour Declaration confirmed Rhodes' view of the importance of Anglo-American unity; yet in the end this unity between Anglo-Saxons was only achieved via Jewish middlemen.

Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar; so were two of Australia's recent Prime Ministers, Malcolm Fraser and Bob Hawke. All three are strong Zionists.

Benjamin H. Freedman, an American Jew who converted to Christianity, said in a speech: freedman.html

{quote}
I say that the United States was almost totally pro-German because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews; and they, the Jews, were pro-German. They were pro-German because many of them had come from Germany, and also they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar. The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. These German-Jew bankers, like Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: "As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!" But they poured money into Germany, they fought beside Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.

Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like a traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. They were no good. Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.

The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." That's how the United States got into the war.
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Hellenism, Zionism and Marxism of the Trotskyist kind, jostle for domination within the Empire. The banning of "female genital mutilation" is an example of a Trotskyist win over the Hellenists. The inability of the CFR to use the threat of withholding its aid to Israel, as a lever to bring peace in the Middle East, attests to the struggle between the Hellenists and the Zionists.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 11:11 am | #

alien presence?
hello,
what are you referring to?
do you mean extra-terrestrials have landed?
jake | 06.20.07 - 8:30 am _____________________
Are you serious? You have such doubts -- And YOU a religious person?

Here's a little something I think might interest you -- from the Holy Bible, King James Version:

Genesis 6:4 There wer giants in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the SONS OF GOD CAME IN UNTO THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
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2 Kings 2:10 ***behold, there APPEARED A CHARIOT OF FIRE, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder, and Elijah WENT UP by a whirlwind into heaven.
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2 Kings 6:17 *** and, hehold, the mountain was full of horses and CHARIOTS OF FIRE round about Elisha.
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2 Samuel 22:7 ***And he rode upon a cherub, and did FLY and he was SEEN UPON THE WINGS of the wind***and THICK CLOUDS of the skies. Through the brightness before him were coals of FIRE kindled.
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Ezekiel 1:15 Now as I BEHELD the living CREATUES, behold one WHEEL upon the earth by the living creatures, with four faces. The appearance of the WHEELS and THEIR WORK was like unto the colour of a BERYL(*) and they four had one likeness, and their appearance and their work was as i were a WHEEL IN THE MIDDLE OF A WHEEL***As for their RINGS, they were so high that they were dreadful, and their RINGS WERE FULL OF EYES ROUND ABOUT THEM four. And when the LIVING CREATURES WENT, the WHEELS WENT BY THEM, and when the living creatures were LIFTED UP FROM THE EARTH, THE WHEELS WERE LIFTED UP.

*beryl: Wesbter's Dictionary: A mineral composed chiefly of beryllium (etc) ...

beryllium: Webster's Dictionary: A lightweight, corrosion-resistant, rigid, steel-gray metalllic element.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 11:10 am | #

To forward such a scheme what a splendid help a secret society would be a society not openly acknowledged but who would work in secret for such an object.

I contend that there are at the present moment numbers of the ablest men in the world who would devote their whole lives to it. I often think what a loss to the English nation in some respects the abolition of the Rotten Borough System has been. What thought strikes a man entering the house of commons, the assembly that rules the whole world? I think it is the mediocrity of the men but what is the cause. It is simply - an assembly of wealth of men whose lives have been spent in the accumulation of money and whose time has been too much engaged to be able to spare any for the study of past history. And yet in the hands of such men rest our destinies. Do men like the great Pitt, and Bourke and Sheridan not now exist. I contend they do. There are men now living with I know no other term the {greek script} mega chschegis {end greek script; the second word is surely incorrecttly written by Rhodes} of Aristotle but there are not ways for enabling them to serve their Country. They live and die unused unemployed. What has been the main cause of the success of the Romish Church? The fact that every enthusiast, call it if you like every madman finds employment in it. Let us form the same kind of society a Church for the extension of the British Empire. A society which should have its members in every part of the British Empire working with one object and one idea we should have its members placed at our universities and our schools and should watch the English youth passing through their hands just one

{p. 251} perhaps in every thousand would have the mind and feelings for such an object, he should be tried in every way, he should be tested whether he is endurant, possessed of eloquence, disregardful of the petty details of life, and if found to be such, then elected and bound by oath to serve for the rest of his life in his Country. He should then be supported if without means by the Society and sent to that part of the Empire where it was felt he was needed.

Take another case, let us fancy a man who finds himself his own master with ample means on attaining his majority whether he puts the question directly to himself or not, still like the old story of virtue and vice in the Memorabilia a fight goes on in him as to what he should do. Take it he plunges into dissipation there is nothing too reckless he does not attempt but after a time his life pulls on him, he mentally says this is not good enough, he changes his life, he reforms, he travels, he thinks now I have found the chief good in life, the novelty wears off, and he tires, to change again, he goes into the far interior after the wild game he thinks at last I've found that in life of which I cannot tire, again he is disappointed. He returns he thinks is there nothing I can do in life? Here I am with means, with a good house, with everything that is to envied and yet I am not happy I am tired of life he possesses within him a portion of the {greek script} mega chschegis {end greek script; the second word is surely incorrecttly written by Rhodes} of Aristotle but he knows it not, to such a man the Society should go, should test, and should finally show him the greatness of the scheme and list him as a member.

Take one more case of the younger son with high thoughts, high aspirations, endowed by nature with all the faculties to make a great man, and with the sole wish in his life to serve his Country but he lacks two things the means and the opportunity, ever troubled by a sort of inward deity urging him on to high and noble deeds, he is compelled to pass his time in some occupation which furnishes him with mere existence, he lives unhappily and dies miserably. Such men as these the Society should search out and use for the furtherance of their object.

(In every Colonial legislature the Society should attempt to have its members prepared at all times to vote or speak and advocate the closer union of England and the colonies, to crush all disloyalty and every movement for the severance of our Empire. The Society should inspire and even own portions of the press for the press rules the mind of the people. The Society should always be searching for members who might by their position in the world by their energies or character forward the object but the ballot and test for admittance should be severe)

{p. 252} Once make it common and it fails. Take a man of great wealth who is bereft of his children perhaps having his mind soured by some bitter disappointment who shuts himself up separate from his neighbours and makes up his mind to a miserable existence. To such men as these the society should go gradually disclose the greatness of their scheme and entreat him to throw in his life and property with them for this object. I think that there are thousands now existing who would eagerly grasp at the opportunity. Such are the heads of my scheme.

For fear that death might cut me off before the time for attempting its development I leave all my worldly goods in trust to S. G. Shippard and the Secretary for the Colonies at the time of my death to try to form such a Society with such an object.

{end of Rhodes' Will}

(2) This is the origin of the Round Table and the Council On Foreign Relations

Rhodes' secret society is called the Round Table; its American branch, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), was set up just after World War I, as the headquarters moved, in effect, across the Atlantic, a move anticipated decades earlier.

In his book on Rhodes' secret society, The Anglo-American Establishment, Carroll Quigley wrote, "in February 1891, Stead and Rhodes ... agreed that, if necessary in order to achieve Anglo-American unity, Britain should join the United States" (p. 3: quigley.html.

The CFR set up the Trilateral Commission to co-ordinate North America, Western Europe and Japan.

The British Empire is now called the British Commonwealth, a name-change pioneered by Round Table leader Lionel Curtis. Carroll Quigley wrote of Curtis, 'In 1911 Curtis decided that the name of His Majesty's Dominions must be changed from "British Empire" to "Commonwealth of Nations." This was done officially in 1948.' (The Anglo-American Establishment, p. 63): quigley.html.

The KBE and DBE awards are still issued (Knight and Dame of the British Empire), although Americans can only constitutionally accept them on an honorary basis. George Bush Snr has an honorary KBE; Elizabeth Taylor an honorary DBE.

The Empire is no longer white-racist, but has become multi-cultural (Hellenistic). It has invited leaders from other peoples to join it in world-rulership. Open Society, Open Conspiracy: opensoc.html

It won the Cold War, yet its own civilization seems close to collapse, on account of the New Left (Trotskyist) takeover of its cultural institutions.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 11:10 am | #

Cecil Rhodes' Will - Peter Myers, May 20, 2002; update April 9, 2004. My comments are shown {thus}.

You are at http://users.cyberone.com.au/mye...hodes- will.html.

(1) Rhodes' Will endows a Secret Society (2) This is the origin of the Round Table and the Council On Foreign Relations (3) The Zionist connection (4) Admiration from Oswald Spengler and Hitler

(1) Rhodes' Will endows a Secret Society

John Flint, Cecil Rhodes, Little, Brown & Co, Boston 1974; and Hutchinson, London, 1976.

John Flint, Cecil Rhodes, Hutchinson, London, 1976, pp. 248-52:

{p. 248} Rhodes' "Confession of Faith" of 1877

Two manuscript versions exist. The first, in Rhodes' own handwriting, was written on June 2, 1877, at Oxford. The second is a fair copy made by a clerk in Kimberley in the summer of 1877, with additions and alterations in Rhodes' handwriting. It is this second fair copy which is reproduced here. It is not clear why the paragrapph at the end of the document was placed in parentheses. The final paragraph was not in the original draft, was added in Kimberely, and thereafter was crossed out, presumably when Rhodes made a more formal will. The document is reproduced here in its original form, without any editing of spelling or punctuation.

It often strikes a man to enquire what is the chief goal in life; to one the thought comes that it is a happy marriage, to another great wealth, and as each seizes on his idea, for that he more or less works for the rest of his existence. To myself thinking over the same question the wish came to render myself useful to my country. I then asked myself how could I and after reviewing the various methods I have felt that at the present day we are actually limiting our children and perhaps bringing into the world half the human beings we might owing to the lack of country for them to inhabit {a lebensraum argument} that if we had retained America there would at this moment be millions more of English living. I contend that we are the finest race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race {a master-race argument}. Just fancy those parts that are at

{p. 249} present inhabited by the most despicable specimens of human beings {a genocidal sentiment} what an alteration there would be if they were brought under Anglo-Saxon influence, look again at the extra employment a new country added to our dominions gives. I contend that every acre added to our territory means in the future birth to some more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence {advocates population displacement}. Added to this the absorption of the greater portion of the world under our rule simply means the end of all wars {but slavery to the conquered}, at this moment had we not lost America I believe we could have stopped the Russian-Turkish war by merely refusing money and supplies. Having these ideas what scheme could we think of to forward this object. I look into history and I read the story of the Jesuits I see what they were able to do in a bad cause and I might say under bad leaders.

In the present day I became a member of the Masonic order I see the wealth and power they possess the influence they hold and I think over their ceremonies and I wonder that a large body of men can devote themselves to what at times appear the most ridiculous and absurd rites without an object and without an end.

The idea gleaming and dancing before one's eyes like a will-of-the wisp at last frames itself into a plan. Why shold we not form a secret society with but one object the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilised world under British rule for the recovery of the United States for the making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire. What a dream, but yet it is probable, it is possible. I once heard it argued by a fellow in my own college, I am sorry to own it by an Englishman, that it was a good thing for us that we have lost the United States. There are some subjects on which there can be no arguments, and to an Englishman this is one of them, but even from an American's point of view just picture what they have lost, look at their government, are not the frauds that yearly come before the public view a disgrace to any country and especially their's which is the finest in the world. Would they have occurred had they remained under English rule great as they have become how infinitely greater they would have been with the softening and elevating influences of English rule, think of those countless 000's of Englishmen that during the last 100 years would have crossed the Atlantic and settled and populated the United States. Would they have not made without any prejudice a finer country of it than the low class Irish and German emigrants? All this we have lost and that country loses owing to whom? Owing to two or three ignorant pig-headed statesmen of the last century, at their door lies the blame. Do you

{p. 250} ever feel mad? do you ever feel murderous. I think I do with those men. I bring facts to prove my assertions. Does an English father when his sons wish to emigrate ever think of suggesting emigration under another flag, never - it would seem a disgrace to suggest such a thing I think that we all think that poverty is better under our own flag rather than wealth under a foreign one.

Put your mind into another train of thought. Fancy Australia discovered and colonised under the French flag, what would it mean merely several millions of English unborn that at present exist {Hitler was not more racist} we learn from the past and to form our future. We learn through having lost to cling to wehat we possess. We know the size of the world we know the total extent. Africa is still lying ready for us it is our duty to take it. It is our duty to seize every oportunity of acquiring more territory and we should keep this one idea steadily before our eyes that more territory simply means more of the Anglo-Saxon race more of the best the most human, most honourable race the world possesses {i.e. genocide of other peoples}.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 11:09 am | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h? v=IlR6L8N2D44

Dang, did that URL not stick before for some reason? This is that same page with Maurice Strong and the enigmatic comment about current or coming events.
Gomer B | 06.20.07 - 11:09 am | #

GAK I really am not just insulting you now, you need to get back on your meds.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 11:07 am | #

NEWS FLASH Democratic candidates squabble over Iraq war while hundreds of thousands of women and children die good work dumocrats
tom | 06.20.07 - 11:01 am | #

RON PAUL LEFT OUT !!

http://www.charlotteconservative...-paul-left-out/
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 10:59 am | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...?v=I...related& search=

That link is a clip of Maurice Strong at the Earth Summit in Rio in 1992. Check out that comment:
"Keep your eyes on him closely to see why what's going to happen in New York in June of 2007 is created by him and those he represents." It's June 2007 right now. Did I miss something, or is this guy talking about something that's about to happen? Just thought this was weird ... anybody have any idea what he's talking about?
Gomer B | 06.20.07 - 10:42 am | #
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If you think that was prophetic, check out this. Every second of this video reveals what the last 15 years and the next 15 years will bring:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808

More on the youth mind control:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h? v=cIJoJfsZ8uM
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 10:57 am | #

Michael Moore: 911 could be an inside job....

Please REDDIT !!!!!!

http://reddit.com/info/1zll1/comments
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 10:49 am | #

from New Zealand !
Michael Moore: 9/11 Could Be Inside Job

Article quoting The Jones Report

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/H...0706/ S00250.htm
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 10:43 am | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...related& search=

That link is a clip of Maurice Strong at the Earth Summit in Rio in 1992. Check out that comment:
"Keep your eyes on him closely to see why what's going to happen in New York in June of 2007 is created by him and those he represents." It's June 2007 right now. Did I miss something, or is this guy talking about something that's about to happen? Just thought this was weird ... anybody have any idea what he's talking about?
Gomer B | 06.20.07 - 10:42 am | #

Interview with Michael Moore

The Awful Truth About 9/11

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/...how/ 120903.html
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 10:39 am | #

Who are the Rothchilds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 10:29 am | #

Illuminati face recognition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 10:24 am | #

i pray every night i know what i sow i pray that god will bring down the evil empire that has grown like a canser for over a hundred years
tom | 06.20.07 - 10:23 am | #

ohhhhhhhhh he speakith in riddles
tom | 06.20.07 - 10:13 am | #

we will reap what we have sown
collectively
individually
definitely
jake | 06.20.07 - 9:41 am
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I hope that's true because I worked real hard a vegetable garden this year // plenty of beans, an assortment of tomatoes and peppers, some squash -- things that I hope will bring much food to our family table. Seriously, no joke intended.

I do know what you mean in those words as you stated them -- but who really talks like that today outside of a preacher standing at a podium?
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 10:09 am | #

the morning show why are americans work aholics he dumb assess most americans are over worked and totally stressed out or used so much the back just cant take it wake up follow the money
tom | 06.20.07 - 10:06 am | #

Ron Paul to Matrix music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?v=Pda- rT1sf2M
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 10:02 am | #

Call for Scotland to try Blair as 'war criminal'
IAN SWANSON
SCOTTISH POLITICAL EDITOR (iswanson@edinburghnews.com)
http://news.scotsman.com/politic...07& format=print
SCOTLAND'S Lord Advocate was today urged to prosecute Tony Blair as a war criminal for the invasion of Iraq.

Former MP Jim Sillars said he had written to Elish Angiolini with a 10,000-word document setting out a formal complaint against the Prime Minister.

And he said Scots law allowed Mr Blair to be put on trial despite such a move being ruled out south of the Border.

The move came as Westminster Tories called for an immediate inquiry into the war in Iraq in a move expected to cause a Labour backbench rebellion. Shadow foreign secretary William Hague was using a Commons debate to call for a hearing by senior politicians with powers to summon officials and military commanders.

Mr Sillars, who is married to independent Lothians MSP Margo MacDonald, claimed Mr Blair was guilty of conspiracy with others to wage aggressive war, and waging aggressive war against the state of Iraq in March 2003, contrary to international law and the law of Scotland.

In his letter to the Lord Advocate, he said: "I am requesting you to investigate this complaint and prosecute in a Scottish court."

Mr Sillars emphasised that despite his political past - first as a Labour MP and then as SNP MP and deputy leader - the complaint against Mr Blair was based on legal principles and case law and was not a political initiative.

He told Ms Angiolini in the letter: "You will find that the research is sound, and that the case against Tony Blair is a strong one. You, of course, will be able to dig wider and deeper than I can as an ordinary citizen, and I am sure that when you do you will reach the same conclusion as contained in the complaint."

Mr Sillars said it was generally believed that Mr Blair could not be indicted for war crimes over Iraq.

But Mr Sillars claimed Scotland's High Court had "declaratory powers" which enabled it to embrace international crimes in Scots law.

He said: "I have spent since January of this year, with a break for the election, researching the case against Blair and whether he could be indicted through the Scottish criminal justice system. The complaint lodged with the Lord Advocate shows the conclusion to that effort. Blair can, in my opinion, be tried in a Scottish court; and the evidence of his conspiracy through deception, lies and misinformation, and his intention of committing the illegal act of regime change through aggressive war, is quite clear. "

Mr Sillars said the Prime Minister had carried on because he felt immune from prosecution.

Mr Hague said today that the presence of UK soldiers in Iraq could not be used as an excuse to "indefinitely postpone" the inquiry. He wants an investigation along the lines of the wide-ranging inquiry into the Falklands War chaired by philosopher Oliver Franks.

Downing Street has said it will hold a probe into the war and the faulty intelligence about Saddam Hussein's Weapons of Mass Destruction, but not while UK troops are in the country.

And Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett is expected to dismiss the call, arguing there have already been four inquiries into various aspects of the war and that another one would distract from the efforts of troops on the ground.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 10:01 am | #

MEET THE MARTYRDOM GRADUATES OF 2007
This graduation celebration was allegedly carried out on June 9, 2007 in the Afghan-Pakistan border region and filmed by a Pakistani journalist. With over 300 martyrdom “graduates”, these operatives are said to be ready for deployment to the countries that are waging war against Muslims in the hot zones including the United States, Canada, UK and Germany. While the validity of the tape is yet unclear, mostly due to the fact that its was released by Zionist-owned ABC News and there has been no comment as of press time from the Taliban, here are some still shots from the footage.
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:57 am | #

Sectarian Killing Spree Continues: 33 More Bodies Recovered In Baghdad Monday
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
Not a day goes by in Iraq without more tortured and murdered bodies of Sunnis being found as the Death Squads, under the guise of the so-called Iraqi Army and the Badr corps carry out their acts of ethnic cleansing, with 35 more bodies discovered Monday.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:51 am | #

Taliban Take Another District Amid Reports Of Intense Attacks In The Past Three Days
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
As Afghan forces admitted that the Taliban had captured the Myanishen district in southern Afghanistan and officals poured over the so-called “Grads” video, the Islamic Emirate released a fresh report on military operations it conducted in the past three days.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:50 am | #

US Strike On Madrassa In Waziristan Surrounded In Controversy As Death Toll Remains At 32
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
The suspect US air strike on the Binori Madrassa in the Datta Khel area of North Wazirstan where students and teachers were in classes is now surrounded in controversy, with local villagers claiming that the 32 deaths were caused by missiles fired from a US drone.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:49 am | #

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Five US Vehicles Destroyed Killing 25 Soldiers In Advance Of "Operation Arrowhead Ripper"
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
As US forces get underway with major offensive deploying 10,000 troops into Diyala province, the Islamic State of Iraq's Mujahideen threw the first volley by taking out five vehicles and 25 soldiers in Baqubah in advance of the latest US onslaught.

While the US and its dutiful media have refused to acknowledge the Islamic State of Iraq, preferring to refer to it as “Al-Qaeda”, the mere fact that 10,000 troops are heading into Diyala makes clear that the Americans are not fighting a single group but rather an organized Muslim State that is part of the Caliphate that is emerging worldwide.

While this new American operation has no timeline, rest assured that Allah does and considering the preemptive strike the Mujahideen have carried out, it appears that the soldiers of the Islamic State of primed for the battle.

Meanwhile, the Information Ministry for the Islamic State of Iraq’s released statements on other operations its Mujahideen carried out in including a martyrdom operation in Diyala and released details of recent military operations in Fallujah.

Here are their reports, published uncut and uncensored, as translated by JUS.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:48 am | #

“The Justice Department has opted out of at least 10 whistle-blower lawsuits alleging fraud and corruption in government reconstruction and security contracts in Iraq, and has spent years investigating additional fraud cases but has yet to try to recover any money.”
http://www.boston.com/news/natio...r_suits/? page=1
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“At least 40 percent of State Department diplomats who have served in danger zones suffer some symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder,” an American Foreign Service Association official told Congress yesterday. “The State Department has provided limited help for diplomats under duress,” including dispatching just two psychiatrists to Iraq.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...l? nav=rss_world
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:45 am | #

we will reap what we have sown
collectively
individually
definitely
jake | 06.20.07 - 9:41 am | #

Let's get ready to rumble:

http://video.google.com/ videopla...229419345976206
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:38 am | #

"Bomb kills 78 in Baghdad, U.S. in big offensive"

Bush's govt./administration 'declared' war on these people - and now that people are being violent back, they/the govt. don't like it - it's not fair! Boo hoo...
F*ckin' idiots - what did they expect?
Peace
Max | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:32 am | #

Bloomberg At Google Campus States "U.S. Is Really in Trouble"
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/ 1...agewanted=print
Bloomberg told a crowd of Google employees that the nation was “really in trouble.” “Our reputation has been hurt very badly in the last few years,” he continued, criticizing what he called a “go-it-alone mentality” in an increasingly interconnected world.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:27 am | #

China arming terrorists
http://www.washingtontimes.com/ a...=73284714278270
The Washington Times reported June 5 that Chinese-made HN-5 anti-aircraft missiles were being used by the Taliban.China, for its part, offered to transport the weapons in order to prevent the weapons from being interdicted. http://worldmonitor.wordpress.com
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:26 am | #

Revealed: secret talks over Lib Dems in Brown cabinet
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/ g...ed=networkfront
Gordon Brown and Sir Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat leader, have held private discussions in recent days about a plan for one or two senior Lib Dems to join Mr Brown's first cabinet, the Guardian has been told by a well-placed source. It is being emphasised that the discussions have not been about a coalition
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:26 am | #

Passport checks threaten chaos at airports
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ ...airports120.xml
Holidaymakers were warned yesterday to expect summer holiday travel chaos as the first signs emerged that the Government's new border controls are causing significant delays at airports. The introduction of sophisticated scanning machinery by the newly-created Border and Immigration Agency (BIA) has doubled the time it takes to process passengers a
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:25 am | #

I loved how the way that We Are Change put together the Hillary video. I do believe every one bit of it. She just may end up becoming our first female president, being that she is high up in the hierarchy of the Illuminati.

I was reading one book entitled "Bloodlines of the Illuminati", and it had stated that her title in the Illuminati is "Grand Madame." It kind of sounds like a term that a female Mason of great power would attain. And, just to include her husband, maybe Bill plays like he loves Black people so much.

Maybe that was just a setup from the get-go. We cannot allow this to continue but it seems as if we really have no choice. Hillary reminds me of Queen Jezebel in the Bible. Finally, even though Hillary appears sweet and innocent, she is a two-faced hypocritical DEVIL!

God Bless CHANGE,

ICESTER10
icester10 | 06.20.07 - 9:24 am | #

POLICEMAN CONFESS - POLICE BRUTALITY in GENOVA 2001 - VIDEO
http:// surfparadise80.blogspot.c...poliziotto.html
G8, CONFESSIONE choc di un POLIZIOTTO: «DIAZ? Fu una macelleria» - POLICEMAN CONFESS - POLICE BRUTALITY in GENOVA 2001 - VIDEO
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:24 am | #

The Bushites Have Outsourced Our Government to Their Pals
http://www.alternet.org/story/54623/
The sprawling $43 billion homeland security department is known for being in charge of America's color-coded terrorist-threat alarm system, a sham that obscures HSD's real mission: to serve as a giant federal cookie jar for corporate America.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:24 am | #

DoJ pushes Microsoft to produce Vista SP1 in '07
http://www.computerworld.com/ act...urce=rss_news50
It's unusual, but confirmation of the availability of Windows Vista's first service pack came yesterday not from Microsoft Corp., but from the U.S. Department of Justice. Tucked into the government's 27-page joint status settlement report (download PDF) released late Tuesday was evidence that Microsoft will put the beta of Vista SP1 into users' han
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:18 am | #

Ron Paul: Key California Republican Group Endorses Ron Paul

http:// www.allamericanpatriots.c...dorses_ron_paul
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 9:17 am | #

June 19, 2007
Rudy's Very Bad Day
http://www.captainsquartersblog....ives/ 010290.php
When Rudy Giuliani has a bad day, he goes all out. America's Mayor spent June 19th parrying three different national stories, all of them reflective on his campaign for the presidency, and none of them complimentary. The first story was his sudden drop into second place in the latest Rasmussen poll. The second was his sudden departure from the Iraq Study Group:
Rudolph Giuliani's membership on an elite Iraq study panel came to an abrupt end last spring after he failed to show up for a single official meeting of the group, causing the panel's top Republican to give him a stark choice: either attend the meetings or quit, several sources said.

Giuliani left the Iraq Study Group last May after just two months, walking away from a chance to make up for his lack of foreign policy credentials on the top issue in the 2008 race, the Iraq war.

He cited "previous time commitments" in a letter explaining his decision to quit, and a look at his schedule suggests why -- the sessions at times conflicted with Giuliani's lucrative speaking tour that garnered him $11.4 million in 14 months.

Giuliani failed to show up for a pair of two-day sessions that occurred during his tenure, the sources said -- and both times, they conflicted with paid public appearances shown on his recent financial disclosure. Giuliani quit the group during his busiest stretch in 2006, when he gave 20 speeches in a single month that brought in $1.7 million.

And the third story features his South Carolina campaign state chair, Thomas Ravenel. who just got indicted on serious drug charges:
State Treasurer Thomas Ravenel was indicted Tuesday on charges of cocaine possession and intent to distribute it. Gov. Mark Sanford immediately suspended him from state office.

“Given the grave nature of these charges and what is alleged in this indictment, we’re left with no choice but to suspend Treasurer Ravenel immediately,” Gov. Sanford said Tuesday afternoon. “These are obviously very serious allegations that we’re constitutionally bound to act upon, and they’ll ultimately be decided by the courts.”

At a press conference late Tuesday, South Carolina Law Enforcement Department Chief Robert Stewart said Ravenel emerged as a participant in an ongoing cocaine sting in Charleston County. He said Ravenel was charged with possession and was sharing — not selling — powder cocaine with an undisclosed number of people.

None of these stories will do permanent damage to Rudy, but having them all hit at once certainly gives the sense of a campaign under fire. Giuliani's campaign has responded to the latter two stories, mostly to distance Rudy from both. They claim that Rudy left the ISG because of his pending presidential campaign, and that they have no information regarding Ravenel and his drug use.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:16 am | #

Ron Paul: "No Amnesty, No Welfare for Illegal Aliens"

http:// www.allamericanpatriots.c..._illegal_aliens
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 9:15 am | #

Every Toy Recalled In The U.S. Shares The Same Label: Made In China
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/1...ess/ 19toys.html
The New York Times is reporting that China is responsible for each and every one of the 24 toy recalls issued this year. Chinese manufactures supply up to 80% of the toys sold on the U.S. market. A new record was even set last year after the CPSC yanked 467 Chinese products off U.S. shelves.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:15 am | #

NOAA's Weather Station Temperature Data Could Be Severely Flawed
http://igottarant.com/showthread...ead.php? t=41649
To assure accuracy, stations should be 100 feet from buildings, not placed on hot concrete, close to an air-conditioning exhaust vent, or next to a drum where trash is burned. Localized changes in the temperature-measurement environment is raising doubts about NOAA's past and current temperature reports.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:14 am | #

REPORT: Russia selling its most advanced fighter jets to Syria
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Sat...icle% 2FShowFull
The contract with Syria will be the first export deal for the MiG-31E, a heavy twin-engined interceptor fighter capable of flying at nearly three times the speed of sound and simultaneously shooting several targets at ranges of up to 180 kilometers away.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:13 am | #

OMG Gabe, you're still at it from last nite? ... and now you have your homo friend jbrid working the forum with you.

How sweet.

Good morning retards!
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 9:13 am | #

Ron Paul Pro Health Legislation

http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp? nid=44108
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 9:07 am | #

Iowans for Tax Relief But Not Ron Paul

http://www.freeliberal.com/blog/...ives/ 002815.php
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 9:05 am | #

RON PAUL MDNBC 6-19-2007
http://video.google.com/ videopla...229419345976206
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 9:03 am | #

>>>>TOTAL BS ALERT!!!!!!
Simulation finds 9/11 fireproofing key
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20070...acks_simulation
By STEVE HERMAN, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 6 minutes ago

INDIANAPOLIS - A computer simulation of the 2001 World Trade Center attacks supports a federal agency's findings that the initial impact from the hijacked airplanes stripped away crucial fireproofing material and that the weakened towers collapsed under their own weight. ADVERTISEMENT

The two-year Purdue University study, funded in part by the National Science Foundation, was the first to use 3-D animation to provide visual context to the attacks, said Christoph Hoffmann, a professor of computer science and one of the lead researchers on the project.

"One thing it does point out... is the absolute essential nature of fireproofing steel structures," Hoffmann told The Associated Press. "This is something that wasn't done originally in the World Trade Center when it was built. It wasn't code at that time."

Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering and a lead investigator on the simulation, said Purdue researchers hope their work leads to better structural design and building codes to prevent similar collapses.

"In the unfortunate development that we shall have to design structures to survive such events, the methods we have developed and will be developing will be of great use to designers," Sozen said.

The animation, intended in part to help engineers design safer buildings, begins with a map of lower Manhattan as it appeared on Sept. 11, 2001. The video then shows a plane slicing through several stories of the World Trade Center's north tower and follows the disintegrating plane through the interior and out the opposite side.

The report concludes that the weight of the aircraft's fuel, when ignited, produced "a flash flood of flaming liquid" that knocked out a number of structural columns within the building and removed the fireproofing insulation from other support structures, Hoffmann said.

The simulation also found that the airplane's metal skin peeled away shortly after impact and shows how the titanium jet engine shafts flew through the building like bullets.

Ayhan Irfanoglu, a Purdue professor of civil engineering, said half of the building's weight-bearing columns were concentrated at the cores of the towers.

"When that part is wiped out, the structure comes down," Irfanoglu said. "We design structures with some extra capacity to cover some uncertainties, but we never anticipate such heavy demand coming from an aircraft impact. If the columns were distributed, maybe, the fire could not take them out so easily."

A 2005 report following a three-year investigation by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, a federal engineering agency, recommended that cities raise fire standards for skyscrapers and develop new materials that can better protect tall buildings from fire. That analysis did not blame the collapse on the steel or design of the towers, but instead focused on the damage to the fireproofing.

Shyam Sunder, the lead NIST investigator, said he was aware of the Purdue study and called it and his own agency's study "among probably the most prominent analyses that have been conducted in the United States."

The animation is the latest project by the Purdue team to assess the structural damage from the Sept. 11 attacks. The team also studied the impact of the crash into the Pentagon.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 8:50 am | #

What about Ron Paul?

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/ ar...RTICLE_ID=56269
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 8:43 am | #

Paul is different

I must take issue with Jim Borgman's editorial cartoon (June 9 Opinion) showing an elephant sitting in front of many bowls of vanilla ice cream. It was obviously meant to convey the idea that all the GOP presidential candidates are uniformly similar and bland.

This is not the case regarding Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, who is currently serving his 10th term.

Paul, also a physician, has a voting record in Congress that is consistently and strictly according to the U.S. Constitution. He never votes for a bill that goes beyond what the Constitution allows and is known as "Dr. No" for this reason.

Paul has never voted for increased taxes, an unbalanced budget, going to war (although he did vote to allow the military to go after al-Qaida following the Sept. 11 attacks), and he has voted against the Iraq war, the USA Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act (which stripped us of the right of habeas corpus).

Paul has not accepted any increase in pay since returning to Congress. He returns a large portion of his allotment for staff and office expenses each year to the U.S. Treasury. No lobbyists darken his door, as they know they are wasting their time.

Borgman was dead wrong. Paul is no bowl of the same old vanilla the rest of the crowd is serving up. He is not just another politician, but rather a statesman of a kind all but extinct in this day and age.

Please go to the Web site RonPaul2008.com for more information on this rarity in American politics.

STEVEN A. ROSILE
Wichita
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 8:41 am | #

I have seen UFO's, and I have studied aliens and such for over 20 years now.

Millions of credible multiple witness sightings.
Start with google videos- "Phil Schnieder"
Also "The Disclosure Project"
And "William Cooper".

This subject is above top secret, and the government has a blanket disinfo and denial policy.

Call me at 605-645-8705 for more details.
Red pill goes deep.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 8:40 am | #

Your View -- Ron Paul has courage to speak frankly about war

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/ ..._170233218.html
R.R.N. | 06.20.07 - 8:35 am | #

alien presence?
hello,
what are you referring to?
do you mean extra-terrestrials have landed?
jake | 06.20.07 - 8:30 am | #

what alien presence?
jake | 06.20.07 - 8:25 am | #

That's what I thought. But the Mossad doesn't really amount to much on the international scene. And I am skeptical of any scenario that does not involve the Reptilians, who are the premiere problem on this planet. The Mossad has power, yes. But by not investigating the alien question, you are castrating the truth and inventing scenarios. It may sound crazy, but we must address the alien presence at some point. Otherwise, we shall remain the insignifigant sand that is the dust in the wind.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 8:16 am | #

Moshe Dayan was in charge of Mossad during the heady days of the state of Israel's new independence. At the time every moslem country in the middle east was threatening to "push the jews back into the sea". Surrounded by enemies larger than herself, Israel not only survives but increases in power. Unfortunately, she does so over the dead bodies of the Palestinian people. Mossad may be the premier intelligence agency on the planet.
jake | 06.20.07 - 8:08 am | #

GAK---Mossad is the Israeli version of our central intelligence agency; not sure what the exact translation means. It is a very powerful and effective agency and is one of the main reasons Israel still exists as a state.
jake | 06.20.07 - 8:01 am | #

Good morning Patriots. I have been manning the walls all night.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:55 am | #

Mr. Scott died in Redmond WA. I topped alot of trees there. I loved star trek.
Never insult the Enterprise!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:48 am | #

This may sound weird, but what the hell is the Mossad?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:44 am | #

I read "The kite runner" last year upon a friends recomendation. Pretty good perspective. Good book. Enjoyed it.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:44 am | #

That's why i call it al-ciada.
jake | 06.20.07 - 7:41 am | #

MI6 and Langley probably get their orders from Mossad.
jake | 06.20.07 - 7:40 am | #

One thing i should say about the movie, "The Road to Guantanamo", it tells the story from the moslem side. it is about three teenagers who return to Afghanistan through Pakistan(no direct flights in Afghanistan)to attend a wedding at the same time that american forces are invading and rounding up Taliban suspects. the story takes them through their arrest and time at Gizmo and their final release. Remember, these guys were teenagers when our government subjected them to the treatment reserved for all moslems at the camp.
jake | 06.20.07 - 7:39 am | #

Jake. America is just a tool of the NWO. Al quaeda takes orders from MI6 and the CIA. We created Al qaeda. There is no Al quaeda. Pat Tillman (Former pro ball player Cardinals) found out the hard way.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:35 am | #

The only movie lately I would pay money to go see is "Live free or Die Hard" with Bruce Willis. I relate to Bruce. Cause I was just like him. When I first heard that Islamic terrorists had struck the towers, I said "Let's go kill those flag burning sons a bitches".
But after some videos, and cooler heads prevailed, I am now a 911 truther, and know that 911 was orchestrated by the Committee of 300 (East India trading Company)
We are all pawns in the game, and must now talk one on one as people.
"Loose Change" and "Terrorstorm". Double feature.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:30 am | #

Al-CIADA thinks its tough for pulling off 9-11 and killing some 3200 americans.
HHMMPF--we got GeorgeBush and he has killed over 3500 americans to revenge ourselves on alciada's 3200.
This doesn't even count the maybe 100,000 iraqis that have paid dearly for their non-involvement with 9-11.
And now that the virginia farmers are back in afghanistan, the poppy crops are bigger than ever.
Thank God for those beautiful folks from the alphabet agencies, without their war on drugs, there wouldn't be any cheap heroin or cocaine for us.
Yep, it sure is the best of all possible worlds when america rules the world.(catchy slogan, maybe i should share it with the neo-con fascists?)
jake | 06.20.07 - 7:29 am | #

I love movies. And actors. Movies are stories, and make points, and entertain us. Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are awesome.
I like all kinds of movies. Then again, I am a lover of life. I like all kinds of stuff in general.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:23 am | #

I wasn't trying to excuse them Jbrid. I was simply pointing out the ignorant level of denial. But your point is received. I just didn't see it till you said it. I am a little thick, sometimes.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:20 am | #

"Cretin fascist scum sucking traitorous dogs" I like that!!!! Good one, bro. I love Maui. Loren Adams is my friend out there.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:18 am | #

GAK---you seem to like movies alot, check out a new movie called "The Road to Guantanamo", very enlightening and a very human story, think you would really appreciate it.
jake | 06.20.07 - 7:18 am | #

To my new found forum friend GAK -- Noted.

But don't try and excuse ignorance with such an easy move because sure, that flat world stuff and the sun stuff -- but we now ALL know better than that don't we. I understand your point, and it is definitely a good one, but it doesn't excuse anything when it comes to people being a real SOB as regards the deaths of innocents // and that's what 9/11 translates to. No dark ages in that.

Ignorance is one thing but can be quite funny in some cases (not when it comes to 9/11 -- that's waaaay too serious, I feel). You want funny? Here's something --

The idiot that thinks he can fly by simply scotch-tapeing 100 pidgeons to himself and then jumping off a high building // that's funny. The death of thousands of innocents just doesn't equate to the same thing.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 7:17 am | #

Conspiracy theory. What morons. I like the movie, "Conspiracy theory". Kinda had some weird truth in it. Maybe sometimes it takes people who are not quite "normal" to see the truth.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:15 am | #

Truth is, no one knows for sure what is going to happen. Sure, the nwo cretin fascist scum-sucking traitorous dogs may have their plan for world conquest, but the Lord also has a plan in operation that will trump whatever anyone else is doing.
Satan, though monstruously more powerful than us humans, he is still a creature and subject to the will of the Creator; the devil is NOT self-existent, nor omniscient nor omnipotent as the Lord is. He can only do what God allows him to do, which seems to be to try the righteous and decieve and destroy the wicked.
Have some faith in your Creator, He really is in charge. Even though evil seems to be ascendent, that is part of the lying deception of evil, to trick us into believing the devil's lies instead of believing God's truths.

p.s. body surfing at Hapuna, on Kailua-Kona side was good but small. All the good breaks are on Oahu and Maui....
jake | 06.20.07 - 7:14 am | #

And another point is,
most of the 911 debunkers are the same salivating morons who conclude that the Bible was written by random men, and changed many times throughout the years. Lacking the dilligent study, of course.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:10 am | #

Jbrid. When a lie is politically correct, and socially popular, there is almost no amount of logic or reason that will penetrate the ignorance. Case in point.

At on time, not too long ago, the majority 90%+ of the population believed the world was flat, and the sun revolved around it.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:06 am | #

Been seein some Patrick Swayze lately. Won't be too long before they show "Roadhouse". Pretty good movie. Hey Alex, have you talked to Patrick about 911 truth yet? He and everyone needs to know. Course I know that they won't listen till they want too.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 7:01 am | #

These following comments are only intended for the 9/11 debunkers out there in computerland that continue to treat the subject of 9/11 as some unimportant game of mental gymnastics -- for which I feel an urge to say this to you:
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To jump in and say something while you are getting your breath in order to ramble on more about how idiotic the truth movement is as regards 9/11 // I'd like to comment that you or anyone else that proudly claims your citizenship to the United States of America, either by birth or by passing some written test -- well, you seriously need to rethink where your loyalities and patriotic concerns truly rest. For it boils down to believe the official story of 9/11, ignoring all the questionable areas, and there are many, that have come into the public awareness since 9/11, says you are truly not a patriotic citizen at all, not of this land; your action (inaction in some cases) is nothing short of lending support to those criminals that truly did attack us on that day // now why in the world, why in the name of heaven would YOU put yourself on the same side of the argument as those criminals and continue to bash truth seekers who do nothing more than wish to see the truly guilty brought to justice. Can't you understand that the criminals are relying on your support, relying on your confused but loyal support as they themself continue to hide in plain sight. This continuous back and forth about things you honestly don't know (but believe you do, or at least feel a need to convince us you do) -- when you are no scientist -- when you don't have even one tiny clue as to the mechanics involved in carrying off a successful controlled demolition -- when you try and justify why the powers to be have not provided the many videos of the Pentagon attack (sure the WTC is entirely another matter, related yes, but sporatic video coverage on that site is understandable (but not so for the Pentagon)) -- when you fail to join your voice in demanding complete and honest answers as regards the obvious stand down of military fighter jet support and ground-to-air support for that particular day // those failures translate as yours alone and not something that can be proud of when reflecting on what the truth really is when it comes to understanding 9/11. Where is your patriotic pride in all of this? Where is your concern for the deaths of thousands of innocent people and their individual families?

These are only a few of many unanswered questions that persist where you too should be concerning yourself IF you are a true citizen of this wonderful country. Why join the criminals in continuing this lie? // Why do you choose not to join your voice in demanding a new and unbiased and complete investigation into the happenings of 9/11? You should truly be ashamed of yourself. But it's not too late to wake up and start thinking like a true American. Thanks for listening --

***Posted elsewhere in this forum in hopes of addressing a maximum level of 9/11 debunkers.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 7:00 am | #

Back to fish. Fish generally swim in schools. But only in the ocean. Why is that? Maybe cause the ocean, is a much bigger, and much more dangerous and scary place. But in small lakes, the fish just mill about on their own, not really caring.
If I were a fish, I would much rather live in a small lake.
But I do love the turtles of Maui. And the Galopagos.
I wish I could just enjoy life, and not be tied to the NWO. But I will meet my responsibility head on, and finish the job.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:55 am | #

Your friend is probably already formulating his denial strategy, as a defense mechanism. They will usually protect their physical prosperity, at all costs.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:45 am | #
_________________________________________________
Well he is not really a friend, but you are right.
I have made some people really mad at me.
But I will spread the truth every chance I get.
And I will until the Lord calls me home.

Gotta go for now, duty calls.
Keep up the good fight, I respect all of you real truthers.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 6:50 am | #

And the Masons, is really a recruiting ground for higher societies of evil. Like the Illuminati, and Skull & Bones.

The whole world is controlled as thus:
#1 SATAN
#2 The illuminati
#3 The Rothschild family
#4 The Committee of 300

Behind all the masks, whatever they are, is Satan, and his tares. Pecking order is not that relevant, in light of this.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:48 am | #

Nerve hit.
The stuff that we know, you have to understand, is unbelievably shocking to the sheep. Your friend is probably already formulating his denial strategy, as a defense mechanism. They will usually protect their physical prosperity, at all costs.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:45 am | #

Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:40 am
_____________________
I agree with you 110% Gabriel.
To be honest, it scares the shit out of me.
This "Masonic Government" is totally out of control.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 6:43 am | #

Fish swim in schools. We should not. Cause we are better than that. I like fish though. They taste good, and are fun to catch.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:42 am | #

I own my business and have a man that I do business with from time to time.
We were have a social drink the other day and the conversation came up about the Government.
To make a long story short, I gave him some videos including terror storm, loose change and The Illuminati.
He has yet to say anything to me about "His" " Good American Government" anymore.
Do you think I hit a nerve?
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 6:40 am | #

Anonymous. Unfortunately, you are dead right. And there is no way in hell we will make it past 2013 without all hell breaking loose. Multiple references. But I believe America will fall sooner, as we are probably the "great city" Babylon in Revelations.
Purple linen and scarlet (Red, white and blue)
Merchants of the earth rich (largest importer)
Mixture of all races
Controlled by Jesuits (Rome) mostly
Richest nation (highest standard of living)
Decieved the Earth with sorceries (Globo cop and CIA)

Just some observations. Nothing is concrete, in prophecy.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:40 am | #

Jones said it right yesterday. We are at the very end. And that isn't a joke. We are witnessing the fall of America. We aren't counting the weeks anymore, we are counting the days. And you can take that, to the bank.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:30 am
__________________________________________________ ________________
I will truly be surprised if America has another "real" election.
America has no "real" Government.
A Masonic dictatorship is in power.
God help us.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 6:34 am | #

Anonymous. You noticed that too? See how they boogied when I gave them the Bible and Constitution challenge?
What a bunch of bullshit artists.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:34 am | #

And so the misguided ones have fallen back into the shadows.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:26 am
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That is because they have no real argument, only lies and deception.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 6:30 am | #

And so the misguided ones have fallen back into the shadows. Must be cause some children of light showed up, causing discomfort. These things happen. They always flee when outnumbered. That is how a pack of Heyena's works. Easy prey, they stay. Otherwise, tuck tail and cover it with a press release.

Got some Stephen Segal tonight. Gonna get a little "Brisk".
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:26 am | #

Notice how "surfing" and "suffering" are spelled almost the same?
Some people suffer for Jesus. Others surf for Jesus. Oh well, at least they both love Jesus. Just an off color observation.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:22 am | #

How was your surfing the other day, Jake?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:19 am | #

Yiddish. Blend your thoughts. You make sense, to you.
Notice you ducked and bailed when I asked you about the Bible, and the Constitution.
Wonder why that was?
Guess it's just another x-file.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:17 am | #

Keep up the good news Jake.
Marcianne | 06.20.07 - 6:08 am | #

Jesus is a COINTELPRO who is really a jesuit/Zionist pro adjuctor.

Just kidding. I don't even know what that shit is. I just hear it here all the time.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:07 am | #

Hi Jake. I like Hawaii. That place actually heals me. I can get drunk as fuck, and still pop up at 6 am every day! I love Hawaii!!!!!!!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:06 am | #

Jesus sends His peace on all who want His peace.
War is for those who want to kill.
It is clear who is who........
jake | 06.20.07 - 6:05 am | #

this board is more penetrated than a whore at closing time
jake | 06.20.07 - 6:02 am | #
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Yes jake it is.
Bunch of sorry ass spooks.
Aim for the head, the Bastards wear body armor.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 6:04 am | #

this board is more penetrated than a whore at closing time
jake | 06.20.07 - 6:02 am | #

Jake Bruno
13256 King Kamehameha Hwy
Kealakekua, Hi
jake | 06.20.07 - 6:00 am | #

DR NWO.
You have never said anything real here, or revealed anything about yourself. You obviously have alot to hide.
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The dog breath is a spook.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 6:00 am | #

I am currently watching Chevy Chase in the original "Vacation" on AMC. Funny movie! A real classic.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:00 am | #

DR NWO.
You have never said anything real here, or revealed anything about yourself. You obviously have alot to hide.

Gabriel Alan King
635 N12th st. Apt#1
Spearfish SD 57783
Phone# 605-645-8705

Any other cowards care to do the same? Didn't think so.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:58 am | #

Ha Ha Ha HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE
so what?
you aren't anybody in my life
you are just a typo
gabrielalankingkong | 06.20.07 - 5:56 am | #

AAAAH God won't do his job!!!!

So WE WILL!!!!!!
DR. NWO | 06.20.07 - 5:56 am | #

But tonight, the bear will shit in the buckwheat.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:53 am | #
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Gabriel,
I love your heart Brother.
The truth shall set us free.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 5:55 am | #

gabrielalankingkong.
That means a whole lot, coming from a coward who hides behind a pseudonym for a name. I laugh at you.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:55 am | #

Anonymous. 5:50
Good advice. But I have a heart for conflict, and self deception. Sometimes I leave them alone. But tonight, the bear will shit in the buckwheat.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:53 am | #

no one here acts like GOD
no one here talks like GOD
no one here has the compassion of GOD
there is only hate
in evidence here
no God
gabrielalankingkong | 06.20.07 - 5:53 am | #

Our genetic engineering will make everyone brillant, beautiful, and well endowed.....like me.

Doesn't that sound great you tiny membered ones!!!!!!!!
DR. NWO | 06.20.07 - 5:52 am | #

fools and damned fools
hear how they prattle on
that jesus wants us all dead
that is why he gave us life....
no one here represents
GOD
gabrielalankingkong | 06.20.07 - 5:51 am | #

DR NWO.
If you were truly the masters, you would have wrapped this whole thing up along time ago. Jesus has your number, son.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:51 am | #

Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:46 am | #
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Gabriel,
Don't play into these losers hands Brother.
Let it go like water off a duck's back.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 5:50 am | #

Do you love the Bible KJV Yiddish?
Do you love the Constitution? Yiddish?

These two questions will sink your entire "Ship of fools".
Unless you answer yes to both.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:49 am | #

Resign yourselves to your hopeless fate!

We are the masters!

Always have been always will be!

We will mold the world into our image!

Into Gattaca and ultimately STAR TREK!

And there's nothing you can do about it!
DR. NWO | 06.20.07 - 5:49 am | #

murderous scum bags
one and all
gabrielalankingkong | 06.20.07 - 5:48 am | #

Yiddish. Your brain won't make a damn bit of difference if your heart isn't in the right place.

Once again, you labeled me a "follower of Alex Jones". What a convenient diversion. I follow the word of God, Old and New Testament. Not that you would know anything about either in your dreamlike state of mental prowess.

You twist everything, and you are worse than a dumbass. Cause you damn well are aware of your trickery. Making you guilty. I profess openly that I believe in, and respect the Bible. And Christ. And the Constitution. What do you profess?

Your garbage is recognized.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:46 am | #

@GAK, which truth movement was that?

The 9/11 Truth Movement?
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 5:43 am | #

Every human being has the basic right to live and be free and therefore every human being has the right to defend themselves, and to defend their individual right to freedom.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 5:42 am | #

Good quote anonymous. 5:37
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:39 am | #

I entered the truth movement in 1989, at which time Alex was only 15 years old. As usual, your compass is all fucked up. But that's how you like it, anyway, isn't it?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:38 am | #

"He who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."-Christ, Luke 22:36
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 5:37 am | #

@GAK

Is RHETORIC all you've got? You're quite amazing.. Stupid.. But amazing..
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 5:37 am | #

DR NWO. I hope for your sake, your joking. I don't think God will laugh. Do you think the murder of innocent people and children is funny?

Just a question, hot rod.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:36 am | #

@GAK

"Yiddish. Your right. I blindly follow Alex and worship him. You are so fucking stupid."

Hey, I was just going on you attacking me for -daring- to question the patriot Alex Jones. A true patriot questions -everything- and more importantly -everybody-.

"I entered the truth movement when Alex was 15 years old. "

Riiight? That would mean 9/11 actually took place sometime in the 1980's.

"And if anyone is inciting violence, it's not Alex, it's me. You twist everything. That's your M.O. "

It's really as simple as this question : "If he asked you, would you take up arms for Alex Jones?" I never said he was violent. I'm sure Hitler was a kitten behind closed doors. But look at what he did by inciting millions of dumb, angry and "patriotic" Germans. (and for the sake of the lurking holocaust deniers, replace "Hitler" with "Pol Pot" and "Germans" with "Cambodians", ok? )

I never said he's inciting violence, but what I am saying is if his "followers" are as dumb as you, he may well be leading a violent movement one day. Tyranny = Ignorance + Faith and Patriotism. The reason BushCo gets away with what they do today is because an entire generation of Americans have stopped learning how to question Authority (in whatever guise it may take).

"You like to profess that you interpet rightly, and your goggles ain't foggy. I think your full of shit."

Well, I was, let's not forget, referring the whole time, to that one article on the front page. I may well be a good % of shit, but you are just a rambling ideologue, which makes you even even worse than full of shit - it makes you full of hot air.

"And I think you know it. You send alot of mixed messages. And you insult Militias. Which is foolish, and prideful. Who the hell are you, Spartacus?"

I insult militias!? Oh heaven forbid. Fuck you asshole, I'll insult whoever the fuck I want to. Fuck your militias. In your utopian society, is there no place for the population to "insult" militias? What kind of free society is that? I thought you are AGAINST Nazism and Socialism? WAKE UP. Is the Democracy you're trying to replace the current regime with any better than the one you've got? Face it, you're a closet Fascist.

"For whatever it's worth, I am happy to hear that you will fight against the Martial Law troops."

WHERE ARE YOU NOW? Martial Law is ALREADY in place. What the fuck are you waiting for?

"We need every man available who would seek to remain free."

Mahatma Ghand is ROLLING in his grave. No force of arms will make a skerrick of difference with this much ignorance in the world. The United States is -doomed- to repeat this ridiculous cycle over and over and over again, because people just like you all over the country think it's about who's got the bigger gun.

You know what GAK? That's fucking horseshit. The real power is about who's got the bigger brain. EDUCATE yourself, and your people.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 5:36 am | #

It's nearly time to waste you human scum!!!
DR. NWO | 06.20.07 - 5:26 am | #
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Yea well, I will take two of them with me to the gates of Hell.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 5:33 am | #

http://www.geocities.com/northst...zone/ index.html
Very informative web site.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 5:31 am | #

Aim for the head. Yep.
We must enforce it. And enforce old justice on this entirely corrupted Freemason justice system. Let's take this country back. Braveheart.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:28 am | #

We're gearin' up for ya rebel scum!

1) 911

2)Patriot Act

3)FEMA camps

And another major event is comin' soon to create the chaos we need to round you all up!!!!!
It's nearly time to waste you human scum!!!
DR. NWO | 06.20.07 - 5:26 am | #

Yiddish. I have decided to award you the coveted "triple think" award. First, you receive the information, and twist it. Then, you regurgitate it, contrary to reality. Then finally, you drown logic itself in a pseudo counterfeit logic, presenting the "Diebold" results as the truth.
Good job, Joker. Maybe by tomorrow, you can sell a refrigerator to an Eskimo, and prove that white is black to the middle class.
You should apply to Skull & Bones. I'm sure you'd get the job.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:25 am | #

And any scum who would rape and murder children, or cover it up, deserves worse than death.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:16 am | #
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Amen to that Gabriel.
Aim for the head, they Bastard | 06.20.07 - 5:23 am | #

http://thumbsnap.com/v/YOa616TD.jpg
Your brave Police.
A mad man is killing 33 people and they draw their guns, their body armor is so thick that their shirts are tight, and hide behind a tree.
Cowards.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 5:20 am | #

Theodora Weaver.
They know, and we know, that there is no Law to enforce the collection of income taxes. That's part of what this standoff is about. I refuse to pay taxes even if they do create a law for it. Cause I refuse to "feed the Beast" and support the Satanists and their agenda. I will however, use the tax money that I would have gave them, to kill them, happily. This is my land. And I will kill to prove it. I respect and serve God. And any scum who would rape and murder children, or cover it up, deserves worse than death.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:16 am | #

Yiddish. Your right. I blindly follow Alex and worship him. You are so fucking stupid.
I entered the truth movement when Alex was 15 years old.
And if anyone is inciting violence, it's not Alex, it's me.
You twist everything. That's your M.O.

You like to profess that you interpet rightly, and your goggles ain't foggy. I think your full of shit. And I think you know it. You send alot of mixed messages. And you insult Militias. Which is foolish, and prideful. Who the hell are you, Spartacus?

For whatever it's worth, I am happy to hear that you will fight against the Martial Law troops. We need every man available who would seek to remain free.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:10 am | #

Oil up your scrollin' finger readers... Freddy has about ten top posts on this page... Scroll down thru the spam for Freddy Fatt and all the gang from http://www.dockersunion.com .
Freddy Fatt | 06.20.07 - 4:56 am | #

Please do not kill the Browns. Perhaps someone out there will be able to find out if there is or is not a law. If there is a law, then prove it to the people, but for heaven's sake, this does not call for an all-out war. NO, and I mean, NO amount of money is worth a life. If the Browns refuse to come out of their home, then have a court trial with all the high-tech stuff, from their home to the courts. Put it on national TV. Not so difficult now, is it? I remember reading something once that mentioned that there is no law that say you have to have a social security card. Whether it's true, I don't knowl. But, please reconsider before any action be taken that would harm anyone.
Theodora Weaver | 06.20.07 - 4:56 am | #

FEMA's detention camps
From Lisa S.:
http://markcrispinmiller.blogspo...tion- camps.html
Mark:

I first heard about this on INN World Report (Free Speech TV), February 7 broadcast: http://www.innworldreport.net/#

The report stated there are 800 detention camps throughout the US, staffed, ready for operation, guarded by armed guards, but presently empty. The "official story" is, under the auspices of Homeland Security, FEMA is maintaining these facilities in the "event of a mass influx of illegal immigrants or in case of national emergency". National emergency however is undefined. I did some research on the 'net and came up with many hits on the search terms "FEMA camps". Some hits seemed to be a little nefarious, but there seems to be plenty of discussion at sites frequented by rational critical thinkers.

Quite frankly, this is deeply troubling to me - I have a keen interest in history, with a particular leaning to WWII and the history of Nazi party. I am not buying the official story, especially since there is no definition of what is considered to be a national emergency.

Have you come across any of this and if so, what do you think? If you haven't, I've provided some links that seem to be legit.
Here is an article about the new detention camp contract given to Halliburton:

Pacific News Service > News > Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

And here is one on the already existing camps from a libertarian website:

Friends of Liberty - FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders

Foundations are in place for martial law in the US - smh.com.au

Discussion thread from a UK site:
War Without End :: View topic - Is Cheney's Neocon cabal bringing concentration camps?
Article & Discussion at Democrats.com

http://www.democrats.com/node/7681

Article & Discussion on Democratic Underground:

NYT: KBR -$385 million for building temporary US detention centers
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:52 am | #

@GAK

"Yiddish. What you SEE in words, is not what others see."

This is why I choose to READ them.

Comprehension comes from literacy. Distortion comes from people like you who twist people's words. It's rich that you are somehow trying to use this argument to say I'm spinning the truth, when it's the complete opposite - I'm demanding accuracy instead of spin.

You're now seemingly trying to argue that words are meaningless, and that people all see different meanings in them, but somehow your perception is more 'true' and by arguing that people should take words at face value, -I- am the one distorting the truth? I don't know what you're smoking, but it's impressive shit..

(this kind of thinking makes CNN or Fox look like a paragon of journalistic integrity - which is pretty damn funny).

" Thus the "communication breakdown" spoke of by Zeppelin. Like I said, just see what you want to see. "

I have a kettle here you might want to call black, pot.

"I see wherein lies our disagreement now. You are going to be sorely surprised when they role in the UN tanks under martial law soon. But I suppose you will just continue to "rationalize" the situation, as to fluff the comfy pillow of your safety. "

You ARE Alex Jones! Alex Jones with poor grammar!

You might even go willingly to the "freedom camp", believing that they will take care of you.
Well, they are gonna "take care of you" alright.

You can be goddamned sure that I won't go to one of those camps. And when the resistance fights back and takes down the NWO, I also won't be signing up for no insane Mad-Max lunatic militia lead by some demagogue like AJ, who has an army of stupid mindless zombies armed to the teeth, fighting for his "cause". The enemy is stupidity, and power. You have the choice of putting your power in someone else's hands, or keeping it yourself. That is freedom, that is liberty. Giving it all to someone else (Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton OR Alex Jones) is just different sides of the same shit bucket.

If you want to be free then treasure your OWN mind, and stop taking orders from people who claim to know the truth. FIND the truth yourself.

"While you quibble, they are finishing the final details of their master plan. And if you still choose to think that Moore is on the fence, then you have yourself clusterfucked in excessive unnecessary false intellectualism. "

No, actually, I'm fairly sure about this one. But then again, niether you or I actually know the truth. Without an on-record statement from Moore himself validating what you said, it's all just propaganda.

"Which the foreign troops will humor themselves with, as they rape you, your children, and your wife."

Oh because American troops are totally fucking above torture rape and pillaging. I don't care if they work for the NWO, they're AMERICAN citizens buddy, cut from the same cloth of ignorance, hatred, and zealous insanity that you were.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 4:51 am | #

Smart Laser Scanner for Human-Computer Interface

Alvaro Cassinelli, Stephane Perrin & Masatoshi Ishikawa
http://www.k2.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/fu...ActiveTracking/

Research description
The problem. Input of information is becoming a challenging task as portable electronic devices become smaller and smaller. Alternatives to the keyboard/mouse are necessary on handheld computers; for instance, on personal digital assistants (PDAs), input of text data is often done through a touch sensitive screen and a stylus using a prescribed input method, such as Graffitti™. The input space is thus merged with the viewing space, allowing a substantial saving of physical space. The next logical step would be to remove the need for any (dedicated or merged) input space, as well as the need for any additional input device (stylus, data-gloves, etc). This would allow inputting data by just executing bare-handed gestures in front of a portable device - that could then be embodied in a keyboardless wrist-watch. Ultimately, coupling such interface with a projective display (e.g. an eyeglass-mounted display or even a laser-based display) capable of creating an arbitrary large virtual space would completely remove the need of any real interaction area (for viewing or inputting data), allowing further downsizing of mobile computing devices (see figure).

Our approach. The problem of tracking hands and fingers on natural scenes has received much attention using passive acquisition vision systems and computationally intense image processing. We are currently studying a simple active tracking system using a laser diode (visible or invisible light), steering mirrors, and a single non-imaging photodetector, which is capable of acquiring three dimensional coordinates in real time without the need of any image processing at all. Essentially, it is a smart rangefinder scanner that instead of continuously scanning over the full field of view, restricts its scanning area, on the basis of a real-time analysis of the backscattered signal, to a very narrow window precisely the size of the target.

The proposed active-tracking mechanism has some appealing features over other conventional (passive or active) tracking systems:
Few constraints on the user/environment. The interface frees the user for adopting a special input posture; it does not require the user to carry any special device (such as active transceivers or reflective optical markers); it does not require any special projection area (other than the hand/finger itself); it is an active-illumination system, so it does not imposes stringent illumination conditions.
Real-time, full 3D acquisition. Although depth estimation of distant targets may be difficult (full 3D measurement may be limited to about 160 cm in our present configuration), tracking and three-dimensional data acquisition is achieved without the need for a stereoscopic camera - in fact, no imaging device is needed at all. For tracking distant targets, more sophisticated telemetric techniques could be readily adopted in the system (i.e. time of flight measurement).
System on-chip integration. Hardware simplicity is such that, using state-of-the-art Micro-Opto-Electro-Mechanical-System (MOEMS) technology, it should be possible to integrate the whole system on a single chip, making a versatile human-machine gestural input interface for use in mobile computing devices.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:50 am | #

Read the Chilling Proposition from Teper et.
HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions
http:// www.theforbiddenknowledge..._guillotine.htm
SECTION 1.
1- 8 The General Assembly finds that while prisoners condemned to
1- 9 death may wish to donate one or more of their organs for
1-10 transplant, any such desire is thwarted by the fact that
1-11 electrocution makes all such organs unsuitable for
1-12 transplant. The intent of the General Assembly in enacting
1-13 this legislation is to provide for a method of execution
1-14 which is compatible with the donation of organs by a
1-15 condemned prisoner.
SECTION 2.
1-16 Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official Code of
1-17 Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty generally,
1-18 is amended by striking in its entirety Code Section
1-19 17-10-38, relating to death sentences generally, and
1-20 inserting in lieu thereof the following:
1-21 "17-10-38. (Index)
1-22 (a) All persons who have been convicted of a capital
1-23 offense and have had imposed upon them a sentence of death
1-24 shall, at the election of the condemned, suffer such
1-25 punishment either by electrocution or by guillotine. If
1-26 the condemned fails to make an election by the thirtieth
1-27 day preceding the date scheduled for execution, punishment
1-28 shall be by electrocution.
1-29 (b) In all cases in which the defendant is sentenced to be
1-30 electrocuted executed, it shall be the duty of the trial
1-31 judge in passing sentence to direct that the defendant be LC 21 3643
2- 1 delivered to the Department of Corrections for
2- 2 electrocution execution at a state correctional
2- 3 institution designated by the department."
2- 4 Said article is further amended by striking in its entirety
2- 5 Code Section 17-10-44, relating to death chamber apparatus
2- 6 and related matters, and inserting in lieu thereof the
2- 7 following:
2- 8 "17-10-44. (Index)
2- 9 The Department of Corrections shall provide a death
2-10 chamber and all necessary apparatus, machinery, and
2-11 appliances for inflicting the penalty of death by
2-12 electrocution or by guillotine."
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:47 am | #

Katherine Schweitzer was a Hungarian Jewish lady from Budapest, her whole family was arrested in 1944 by a Jew member of Horsha, the Hungarian thug police, and deported to Auschwitz. Only she survived that place and said on TV, that the Jew who arrested her was living a few doors up on the same street in Sydney.

Her body was discovered in a wheelie bin 28 December 2006 she was last seen alive 22 Dec. Most likely she was murdered by hostile elements in reprisal for telling the truth, after I had published the above story on November 30 2006, concerned her testimony would encourage other survivors of the so called Holocaust to do the same. And to warn any other Jews who want the truth to come out just what the consequences will be. Maybe Fritz-Harry Cremer is a Mossad agent and perhaps he talked his way into her apartment and murdered her.

It would be a perfect way for Jewish community to demonstrate it’s readiness to cooperate with broader society, by assisting in achieving a prosecution re this matter. Israeli sources should have information on of Fritz-Harry Cremer for instance.
Freddy Fatt | 06.20.07 - 4:47 am | #

Some people think that there are a few "bumps" in the road of life, but everything will work itself out in the end.
These are the same dumb assholes that will take a chip, or wake up in a freedom camp wondering "how did I get here?"

If they had a fucking clue what was really going on in their government, then they would know the answer to that question. Day late, dollar short.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 4:44 am | #

(A) A BRIEF HISTORICAL SKETCH OF THE ORIGINS OF EMERGENCY POWERS NOW IN FORCE

A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency. The problem of how a constitutional democracy reacts to great crises, however, far antedates the Great Depression. As a philosophical issue, its origins reach back to the Greek city-states and the Roman Republic. And, in the United States, actions taken by the Government in times of great crises have-from, at least, the Civil War-in important ways, shaped the present phenomenon of a permanent state of national emergency.
American political theory of emergency government was derived and enlarged from John Locke, the English political-philosopher whose thought influenced the authors of the Constitution. Locke argued that the threat of national crisis-unforeseen, sudden, and potentially catastrophic-required the creation of broad executive emergency powers to be exercised by the Chief Executive in situations where the legislative authority had not provided a means or procedure of remedy. Referring to emergency power in the 14th chapter of his Second Treatise on Civil Government as "prerogative," Locke suggested that it:
...should be left to the discretion of him that has the executive power...since in some governments the lawmaking power is not always in being and is usually too numerous, and so too slow for the dispatch requisite to executions, and because, also it is impossible to foresee and so by laws to provide for all accidents and necessities that may concern the public, or make such laws as will do no harm, if they are executed with an inflexible rigour on all occasions and upon all persons that may come in their way, therefore there is a latitude left to the executive power to do many things of choice; which the laws do not prescribe.

To what extent the Founding Fathers adhered to this view of the executive role in emergencies is a much disputed issue. Whatever their conceptions of this role, its development in practice has been based largely on the manner in which individual President's have viewed their office and its functions. Presidents Theodore Roosevelt and William Howard Taft argued the proper role of the President and, perhaps, their debate best expounds diametrically-opposed philosophies of the presidency. In his autobiography, Roosevelt asserted his "stewardship theory."
My view was that every Executive officer...was a steward of the people bound actively and affirmatively to do all he could for the people and not to content himself with the negative merit of keeping his talents undamaged in a napkin...My belief was that it was not only [the President's] right but his duty to do anything that the needs of the Nation demanded unless such action was forbidden by the Constitution or by the laws. Under this interpretation of executive power I did and caused to be done many things not previously done by the President and the heads of departments. I did not usurp power but I did greatly broaden the use of executive power. In other words, I acted for the common well being of all our people whenever and whatever measure was necessary, unless prevented by direct constitutional or legislative prohibition.

Roosevelt compared this principle of "stewardship" to what he called the Jackson-Lincoln theory, and contrasted it to the theory ascribed to William Howard Taft.

Roosevelt's ideas on the limit of presidential authority and responsibility were vigorously disputed by Taft. In lectures on the presidency--delivered at Columbia University in 1915-1916-Taft responded that: "... the wide field of action that this would give to the Executive one can hardly limit. A President can exercise no power which cannot fairly and reasonably be traced to some specific grant of power." And he cautioned that: "... such specific grants must be either in the Federal Constitution, or in any act of Congress passed in pursuance thereof. There is no undefined residuum of power which he can exercise because it seems to him to be in the public interest."

In recent years, most scholars have interpreted the Roosevelt-Taft dispute in Roosevelt's favor. In the prevailing academic view, Roosevelt is described as "active," "expansionist," and "strong." The historical reality, in fact, does not afford such a sharp distinction either between the actions of these two Presidents, or between their analysis of the problem of emergency powers. Taft, in his concluding remarks to his Columbia lectures, said : "Executive power is limited, so far as it is possible to limit such a power consistent -with that discretion and promptness of action that are essential to preserve the interests of the public in times of emergency or legislative neglect or inaction." Thus, even Taft was disposed to employ emergency power when the need arose, but, he did not wish to go beyond his own narrower, conservative conception of what was meant by constitutional and legal bounds. Thus, the dispute was over where those bounds lay, rather than the nature of the office itself.

Taft's successor, Woodrow Wilson, was no less zealous in observing what he thought the Constitution demanded. Faced with the exigencies of World War I, Wilson found it necessary to expand executive emergency powers enormously. In many respects, this expansion ofpowers in wartime was based on precedents set by Lincoln decades earlier. Unlike Lincoln, however, Wilson relied heavily on Congress for official delegations of authority no matter how broadly these might be.

Wilson's exercise of power in the First World War provided a model for future Presidents and their advisors. During the preparedeness period of 1915-1916, the submarine crisis in the opening months of 1917, and the period of direct involvement of U.S. armed forces from April 1917 to November 1918, Wilson utilized powers as sweeping as Lincoln's. Because governmental agencies were more highly organized and their jurisdictions wider, presidential powers were considerably more effective than ever before. Yet, perhaps, because of Wilson's scrupulous attention to obtaining prior congressional concurrence, there was only one significant congressional challenge to Wilson's wartime measures.

That challenge came in February-March 1917, following the severance of diplomatic relations with Germany. A group of Senators successfully filibustered a bill authorizing the arming of American merchant ships. In response--records American historian Frank Freidel in his book Roosevelt: the Apprenticeship-Assistant Secretary of the Navy Franklin D. Roosevelt found an old statute under which the President could proceed without fresh authorization from Congress. Roosevelt, impatient for action, was irritated because Wilson waited a few days before implementing the statute.

Lincoln had drawn most heavily upon his power as Commander-in-Chief; Wilson exercised emergency power on the basis of old statutes and sweeping new legislation--thus drawing on congressional delegation as a source of authority: The most significant Wilsonian innovations were economic, including a wide array of defense and war agencies, modeled to some extent upon British wartime precedents. In August 1916 just prior to the United States entry into the war, Congress at Wilson's behest established a Council of National Defense-primarily advisory. In 1917, a War Industries Board, also relatively weak, began operating. The ineffectiveness of the economic mobilization led Republicans in Congress-in the winter of 1917-1918 to demand a coalition War Cabinet similar to that in England. Wilson forestalled Congress by proposing legislation delegating him almost total economic power and, even before legislative approval, authorized the War Industries Board to exercise extensive powers. Subsequently Congress enacted Wilson's measure, the Overman Act, in April 1918. Other legislation extended the economic authority of the Government in numerous directions.

Following the allied victory, Wilson relinquished his wartime authority and asked Congress to repeal the emergency statutes, enacted to fight more effectively the war. Only a food-control measure and the 1917 Trading With the Enemy Act were retained. This procedure of terminating emergency powers when the particular emergency itself has, in fact, ended has not been consistently followed by his successors.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:42 am | #

93d Congress
SENATE
Report No. 93-549
1st Session
http://www.freedomsite.net/93-549.htm
EMERGENCY POWERS STATUTES:
PROVISIONS OF FEDERAL LAW NOW IN EFFECT DELEGATING TO THE EXECUTIVE EXTRAORDINARY AUTHORITY IN TIME OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY REPORT OF THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON THE TERMINATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY UNITED STATES SENATE NOVEMBER 19, 1973
U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON : 1973
24-509 O
SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON THE TERMINATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY
FRANK CHURCH, Idaho Co-Chairman
PHILIP A. HART, Michigan
CLAIBORNE PELL, Rhode Island
ADLAI E. STEVENSON III, Illinois CHARLES McC MATHIAS, Jr., Maryland
CLIFFORD P. CASE, New Jersey
JAMES B. PEARSON, Kansas
CLIFFORD P. HANSEN, Wyoming
WILLIAM G. MILLER, Staff Director
THOMAS A. DINE, Professional Staff
FOREWORD
Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. In fact, there are now in effect four presidentially-proclaimed states of national emergency: In addition to the national emergency declared by President Roosevelt in 1933, there are also the national emergency proclaimed by President Truman on December 16, 1950, during the Korean conflict, and the states of national emergency declared by President Nixon on March 23, 1970, and August 15, 1971.
These proclamations give force to 470 provisions of Federal law. These hundreds of statutes delegate to the President extraordinary powers, ordinarily exercised by the Congress, which affect the lives of American citizens in a host of all-encompassing manners. This vast range of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule the country without reference to normal Constitutional processes.
Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens.
With the melting of the cold war--the developing detente with the Soviet Union and China, the stable truce of over 20 years duration between North and South Korea, and the end of U.S. involvement in the war in Indochina--there is no present need for the United States Government to continue to function under emergency conditions.
The Special Committee on the Termination of the National Emergency was created (1) to examine the consequences of terminating the declared states of national emergency that now prevail; to recommend what steps the Congress should take to ensure that the termination can be accomplished without adverse effect upon the necessary tasks of governing; and, also, to recommend ways in which the United States can meet future emergency situations with speed and effectiveness but without relinquishment of congressional oversight and control.
In accordance with this mandate, the Special Committee-- in conjunction with the Executive branch, expert constitutional authorities, as well as former high officials of this Government-- is now engaged in a detailed study to determine the most reasonable ways to restore normalcy to the operations of our Government.
A first and necessary step was to bring together the body of statutes, which have been passed by Congress, conferring extraordinary powers upon the Executive branch in times of national emergency.
This has been a most difficult task. Nowhere in the Government, in either the Executive or Legislative branches, did there exist a complete catalog of all emergency statutes. Many were aware that there had been a delegation of an enormous amount of power but, of how much power, no one knew. In order to correct this situation, the Special Committee staff was instructed to work with the Executive branch, the Library of Congress, and knowledgeable legal authorities to compile an authoritative list of delegated emergency powers.
This Special Committee study, which contains a list of all provisions of Federal law, except the most trivial, conferring extraordinary powers in time of national emergency, was compiled by the staff under the direction of Staff Director William G. Miller, and Mr. Thomas A. Dine; utilizing the help of the General Accounting Office, the American Law Division of the Library of Congress, the Department of Justice, the Department of Defense, and the Office of Emergency Planning.
The Special Committee is grateful for the assistance provided by Jack. Goldklang of the Office of Legal Counsel, Department of Justice; Lester S. Jayson, the director of the Congressional Research Service of the Library of Congress; Joseph E. Ross, head of the American Law Division of CRS; and especially Raymond Celada of the American Law Division and his able assistants, Charles V. Dale and Grover S. Williams; Paul Armstrong of the General Accounting Office; Linda Lee, Patrick Norton, Roland Moore, William K. Sawyer, Audrey Hatry, Martha Mecham, and David J. Kyte.
The Special Committee will also publish a list of Executive Orders, issued pursuant to statutes brought into force by declared states of emergency, at a later date.
CHARLES McC. MATHIAS, JR.
FRANK CHURCH,
Co-Chairmen.
Note 1: S. Res. 9, 93d Cong., 1st Sess.

EMERGENCY POWERS STATUTES:
PROVISIONS OF FEDERAL LAW NOW IN EFFECT DELEGATING TO THE EXECUTIVE EXTRAORDINARY AUTHORITY IN TIME OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY
November 19, 1973.-Ordered to be printed
Mr. MATHIAS (for Mr. CHURCH) as co-chairman of the Special Committee on the Termination of the National Emergency, submitted the following
REPORT
[Pursuant to S. Res. 9, 93d Cong.]
INTRODUCTION
(A) A BRIEF HISTORICAL SKETCH OF THE ORIGINS OF EMERGENCY POWERS NOW IN FORCE
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:42 am | #

State-By-State Index Of Potential
US Concentration Camps
CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERICA
From http://gulagamerika.homestead.com
Revised September 18, 2001
11-26-1
http://www.rense.com/general17/ s...tatebystate.htm
The following list is not complete, in spite of the extensive research put into it, and the attempts to verify the information that was available. These sites are alleged to exist, and certain considerations had to be taken in order to make this list:

Many locations were verified by William Pabst's research and testimony of Provost Marshal, US 5th Army HQ, Pentagon; and Mr. Fennerin, 300th Army MP - POW Command, Livonia Mich.

Some locations are not verifiable due to restricted access; these are believed to exist by virtue of their locality (e.g.: military reservation);

Other locations were established by numerous citations from multiple sources; locations were verified by physical reconnaissance and photographic evidence, some locations were verified by personal testimony from dependable, trustworthy authorities, or were visited by means not known to the author or the primary source but established through independent testimonies.

Some sites are listed by virtue of their status as a WWII internment camp or present-day penal facility and do not necessarily resemble a "concentration camp" to the casual observer. Old WWII sites are on the list because they are still designated by the Internal Security Act of 1950, which was never repealed.

Some internment sites are not developed beyond a rudimentary fence-and-barbwire enclosure due to the fact that many such concentration camps will be further developed using inmate labor. An enclosure used to hold 500 will become the foundation for the construction of additional enclosures holding thousands.

!! NOTE: There are certain controversial sites that have been cited, refuted, and confirmed again. They are included here for academic purposes only. Certain individuals have been able to get a "guided tour" of such a facility, the Amtrak rail yards just outside Indianapolis complete with an explanation of its' planned purpose. These individuals took hidden video of the facility which was seen by this author, a former railroad employee. For this reason it is included, until at such time that hard evidence moves it to the hoax page.

If you wish to assist GulagAmerika in verifying and refuting detention camp locations, please visit our Research Group at Yahoo.

ALABAMA Opelika - WWII German/Italian camp - may be renovated. Aliceville - WWII German POW camp - capacity 15,000 Ft. McClellan (Anniston) - Opposite side of town from Army Depot; Maxwell AFB (Montgomery) - Civilian prison camp established under Operation Garden Plot, currently operating with support staff and small inmate population. Talladega - Federal prison "satellite" camp.

ALASKA Wilderness - East of Anchorage. No roads, Air & Railroad access only. Estimated capacity of 500,000 Elmendorf AFB - Northeast area of Anchorage - far end of base. Garden Plot facility. Eielson AFB - Southeast of Fairbanks. Operation Garden Plot facility. Ft. Wainwright - East of Fairbanks

ARIZONA Ft. Huachuca - 20 miles from Mexican border, 30 miles from Nogales. Rex '84 facility. Pinal County - on the Gila River - WWII Japanese detention camp. May be renovated. Yuma County - Colorado River - Site of former Japanese detention camp (near proving grounds). This site was completely removed in 1990 according to some reports. Phoenix - Federal Prison Satellite Camp. Main federal facility expanded. Florence - WWII prison camp NOW RENOVATED, OPERATIONAL with staff & 400 prisoners, operational capacity of 3,500. Wickenburg - Airport is ready for conversion; total capacity unknown. Davis-Monthan AFB (Tucson) - Fully staffed and presently holding prisoners!! Sedona - site of possible UN base.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:39 am | #

Chapter 5: PREPARING TO TAKE PRISONERS
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ p...ca26feb07.shtml
The Army has over 350 separate record centers containing substantial information on civilian political activities.

Virtually every major army unit has its own set aside from this. The Fifth Army of San Antonio has over 100,000 files of its own. The overall operation command post is a domestic room at the Pentagon. There are 25 million card on individuals and 760,000 on organizations held by the Defense Central Index of investigations alone. And this information includes political, sociological, economic and psychological profiles. All this type of information on 25 million Americans.

Since 1970 local county and state police forces all over the country have undertaken crash programs to install various kinds of computerized information systems. A large portion of this is being paid for by the Law Enforcement Assistance Administration. Beginning in 1970, Congress and the Joint Chiefs of Staff ordered the destruction of all these data banks, but they were not destroyed. All the outlawed collection is now located at Mt. Weathey, Clark County, West Virginia and similar Pentagon facilities designed as adjuncts to the president's emergency powers under the Executive Orders.

The cadre of specialized persons to enforce this plan are found in the U.S. Army Reserves Military Police POW Command at Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Fenren (phonetic spelling) of the 300th Military Police POW Command at Livonia told me, when I called him from the Federal Information Center at Houston, that the camps in the Command were for foreign prisoners of war and for"enemies of the United States". I asked him if enemies of the United States included U.S. citizens. He became angry, wouldn't deny it and referred me to a very sinister individual at the Army Reserve facility here at Houston who I talked to; who explained to me that the prisoners were called "inventory" and "internees". He would not deny that the camps were for U.S. citizens.

I called the Pentagon, spoke with the defendant there, and then with the provost marshal for the Fifth Army, and do you know what? Not one of these persons would deny that the system was for U.S. citizens. The provost marshal for the Fifth Army, when I mentioned the names of all the camp sites, said; "Well at least you've got that right."

The names of the detention facilities that I gave him were a list that I had acquired from the 'Ozark Sunbeam'. That list of names was the same list of facilities designated under the old Detention Act of 1950 as "emergency detention centers". But there is only one problem: That act was supposed to have been repealed in 1971. After some research, I found out what the problem was. One Congressman, when the hearings were held for the repeal of the Emergency Detention Act, mentioned that there are 17 other bits of law that provided for the same thing. So it didn't matter whether they ever repealed the Emergency Detention Act. The public was in fact tricked by the Congress of the United States!

Here are the designated sites: Tucked away in the Appalachian Mountains of central Pennsylvania is a bustling town of approx. 10,000 people. Fifteen to twenty years ago it was a sleepy village of 400. Allanwood, Pennsylvania is linked to New York City by Interstate U.S. 80. It takes up approximately 400 acres and is surrounded by a 10-foot barbed-wire fence. It now holds approximately 300 minimum security prisoners to keep it in shape. It could hold 12,000 people from one day to the next.

Thirty miles from Oklahoma City on U.S. 66 is El Reno, Oklahoma with an approximate population of 12,000. Due west, 6 miles from tow, almost in sight of U.S. 66 is a complex of buildings which could pass for a small school. However, the facility is overshadowed by a guard house which appears to be something like airport control tower, except that it's manned by a vigilant, uniformed guard. This is a federal prison camp or detention center. These camps are all located near super-highways or near railroad tracks or both.

The federal prison camp at Florence, Arizona could hold 3,500 prisoners. It is presently kept in condition by approximately 400 legally convicted prisoners. Wickenberg, Arizona is famous for its municipal airport, which was once government-owned. It is now occupied by a private party. It is rumored to be capable of being taken back by the federal government without notice.

Now there are a couple other of these facilities which probably exist under the same arrangements. This particular rumor has existed for about 9 or 10 years. The only way it can actually be established is by looking at the local contract for the Wickenberg Municipal Airport itself and the parties that have possession of it.

As I mentioned previously, these names were ratified by the provost marshal of the Fifth Army who is in charge of the 300th Military Police POW Command. He is the one who verified them. He said, as I mentioned before, "Well at least you've got that right."

Some of the locations are: Tool Lake in California, now in private hands. It can be retaken without notice. Mill Point, West Virginia. I couldn't find a thing on Mill Point, but in that area we have all kinds of prisons; Alderson, W.V., a women's federal reformatory; Lewisburg, W.V., a federal prison; Greenville, S.C. in Greenville County is now occupied by the State Youthful Offenders Division. Even that is a mystery to the people of that area.

At Montgomery, Alabama we have a federal civilian prison camp at Maxwell Air Force Base. Now does that sound right? There's one at Tucson, Arizona, David Munson Air Base. In Alaska we have Elmendorf at Eielson Air Force Base.

And that brings us to a facility in Florida called Avon Park, Florida. I sent a representative to see what was there. He found the Avon Park Bombing and Gunnery Range, which is also listed as the Avon Park Correctional Institute. No one is permitted entrance and probably there is no over flight permitted because it is a bombing and gunnery range. This was one of the places ratified by the provost marshal of the Fifth Army.

In 1976, as well as on March 20, 1979, I went to the Sheriff's Department in Houston to see if our local Sheriff had been infiltrated by these plans. Well, it appears so. I was put in contact with a Lt. Kiljan (phonetic spelling) who is in charge of some secret unit in the department. I asked him if be had participated in military training or in training with military personnel here in the Sheriff's Department. He denied it, and when I asked him if be would testify so under oath he became angry and stated, "You are just an ordinary citizen. I don't have to tell you anything." I later discovered that Lt. Kiljan is the ex-director of the Houston branch office of the U.S. Secret Service. Now where does his money come from? The area is administered by the Houston- Galveston Area Council.

In this regional government plan, each federal region is divided into state clearinghouses, and each state clearinghouse is divided into area clearinghouses. And for our area we have the Houston- Galveston Area Council. It serves as a conduit for federal funds in two major areas: L.E.A.A. and H.E.W.

Most everybody thinks this organization (the Houston-Galveston area Council) is for the development of the area; the geographical area here in Houston. It is not. It is for the development of L.E.A.A. and H.E.W. projects. Now this finds its counterpart in every community across the U.S. It provides for these agencies a liaison for intergovernmental communications, interaction and coordination.

William Pabst

__________________________________________________ _______________
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:38 am | #

William Pabst Report Warns of Pentagon Complicity
in NWO Takeover of America
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ p...ca26feb07.shtml
By William Pabst
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ p...ca26feb07.shtml
February 26, 2007

William Pabst Report Warns of Pentagon Complicity in NWO Takeover of America (Feb. 26, 2007)

Forward courtesy of Pam Schuffert

Excerpt from William Pabst Report exposing martial law plans and concentration camps

Throughout my ten years of intense research across this nation and in various locations throughout the world, I have become aware of many serious revelations. A MAJOR revelation was to understand clearly that this nation and her citizens have been fully betrayed into the NWO AGENDA from the highest levels of the WHITE HOUSE and PENTAGON on down.

In fact, there is not a NWO military black op going on across this nation regarding preparation for a NWO MARTIAL LAW MILTARY TAKEOVER, that the Pentagon is not aware of fully and is a part of in varying capacities. The Pentagon houses many offices of various military and intelligence operations, all fully tied in with the US MILITARY and intelligence, and as such are FULLY COMPLICIT in everything from the planning of OKC bombing, to 9/11, to the civilain concentration camp agenda being quietly put into place by the US military, Homeland Security, and FEMA.

That is simply the nature of the huge military complex called the Pentagon. While I know for a fact that there are people of sincere character and nature who indeed have worked there and continue to so do, this cannot cancel out the hard core reality of what the Pentagon is implementing regarding the future military takeover of the USA under martial law. Nor does it forgive the involvement of high level military brass in the Pentagon, sympathitic to the NWO agenda, who fully cooperated with the terror of "9/11", the Oklahoma City bombing, WACO, and many other militarily-backed black ops for a NWO hidden agenda.

Anyone who attempt to deny this reality about what the Pentagon houses is planting DISINFORMATION for a hidden agenda.

Either way, with the large amount of damning evidence linking the Pentagon with the NEW WORLD ORDER agenda, a definite military takeover agenda, involving both the US and the UN/NATO military forces cooperating together, there is no rational excuse to dismiss the Pentagon's complicity in these dark operations and the future takeover of America.

I had a phone discussion with a radio evangelist exposing the NEW WORLD ORDER and martial law. He admitted to me that he received an official looking manilla envelope packet from Washington DC one day. It's return address was the PENTAGON.

Inside there was a complete transcript of one of his radio broadcasts exposing the NWO and the martial law plans! It also inlcuded a terse letter, brief and to the point: : "This is just to let you know that we are monitoring every radio broadcast you put out" -from Pentagon Intelligence"

He was shocked and unnerved, but bravely continued to broadcast on the radio.

Read the following excerpt from Willaim Pabst who exposed the US concentration camp agenda, the martial law takeover of American and the Pentagon's role in that treason.

.-Pamela Schuffert

From Ken Adachi:

**Pan Schuffert to be interviewed on The American Radio network with Dr. Gianni Hayes on Wednesday, Feb. 28, 2007 at 8 PM Pacific time. Go to theis link and follw directions to hear the show: http://network.theamericanvoice....om/ schedule.htm
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 4:38 am | #

Yiddish. What you SEE in words, is not what others see. Thus the "communication breakdown" spoke of by Zeppelin. Like I said, just see what you want to see.

DR NWO. In all DUE respect, fuck you and your whole family in the neck.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 4:35 am | #

I see wherein lies our disagreement now. You are going to be sorely surprised when they role in the UN tanks under martial law soon. But I suppose you will just continue to "rationalize" the situation, as to fluff the comfy pillow of your safety.
You might even go willingly to the "freedom camp", believing that they will take care of you.
Well, they are gonna "take care of you" alright.

While you quibble, they are finishing the final details of their master plan. And if you still choose to think that Moore is on the fence, then you have yourself clusterfucked in excessive unnecessary false intellectualism.

Which the foreign troops will humor themselves with, as they rape you, your children, and your wife.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 4:29 am | #

We funded the Illegal Immigrant demonstrations!

Now we're gonna shove the NAU down your throats!
DR. NWO | 06.20.07 - 4:25 am | #

@GAK
"Dude. We don't need Moore. But the fact is, the things he said basically scream inside job. If you can't see that, then you have "selective vision"."

The fact that you can't see the sheer hypocrisy in this statement is incredulous. So you're saying the fact I can't see what you can see (even though it's NOWHERE to be found in the -actual- words that he said), then I'm distorting reality?

Time for your meds again...
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 4:23 am | #

Bombs in Iraq… US Forces on killfest offensive… Hamas secured the occupied territories as their Israeli masters offend against the Palestinian homeland… Freddy Fatt cares, The Koran exhorts the faithful to hurl truth against falsehood… that’s what Freddy does… So where is everyone else… There were hundreds of thousands of witnesses to the 911 attacks Willie Rodriguez went public so where is everyone else… Who owned the cars that exploded on FDR Drive, who else saw the missile strike… It looks like a Tomahawk class cruise missile, taking a look at the damage to WTC 5 and 6 on high resolution photographs, it looks like multiple high speed thermonuclear warheads blast an opening, thru which goes the slower central armament with a larger thermonuclear device designed to get at the strategic target below. One concrete panel inside the devastated WTC 6 appears to be partially vaporized, a shallow concave surface defining the spherical dimension of the thermonuclear fusion.

All y’all out there… the whole place is gonna go to Hell in a handbasket, US forces on land and at sea are gonna be wiped out if they attack Iran, the paper money they print to pay their mercenary armies, has so devalued the greenback that the real value is thought to be one US cent. The value will fall further as the carriers go to the bottom, then become meaningless as the armies that are already in place in the US are mobilized to attack the schools, and European dominance on the North American mainland is over.

Stir yourselves you all.

Agriculture, writing, and the domestication of animals all originated in the Tigris Euphrates region called Iraq, the tribes that have been located there since the time of Adam, are the Sunni. The Shia are every one else, the Sunni are often don’t do the manual chores, so they have been bringing in workers from other places for centuries, these workers do not usually attend Sunni mosques which are most often built and maintained by a single extended family. They usually attend to their religious affairs in Mosques that are located in working class areas of the city, that have become known as Shia Mosques. At no time has war or conflict between the two sectors of society been permitted, either under secular law or within the strictures of Islam, and all parties are aware that murder is met with speedy and deadly retaliation, according to the instruction in The Koran.

Murdoch and Co will have you believe an internecine struggle between Shia and Sunni sects within the Moslem infrastructure of Iraq, supported on the Shia side by Iran attempting to establish hegemony in the area, is at the heart of the problem. That is total BS.

PJW at PP reports that recent bombings of civilian targets in Iraq are at the behest of John Negroponte US Deputy Secretary of State. A similar bombing has now left dozens dead and scores injured in Afghanistan. Iraqi’s Accuse U.S. Of Bombing al-Askari Shrine in Samara,: Both Sunnis and Shia say the bombings are plot to incite sectarian violence.

C4 has been in the gruesome car bombings in Iraq. Asked about those and the dozens of civilian bodies that turn up daily, Iraqi Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani, laid responsibility for the deaths, including gruesome beheadings of civilians, at the feet of the unregulated force of one hundred and fifty thousand private security contractors. Fourteen thousand of whom are from Ahmad Chalabi’s Iraqi Free Forces, the remainder are from paramilitary forces with some of the worst human rights records in the world: South Africa, Colombia, Salvador, and Chile, and ex regular special forces from the United Kingdom, United States, Israel, Nepal, Fiji, and the Philippines. Beheadings, such as those seen in Iraq, are a hallmark of the Nepalese Gurkhas.
Martin T | 06.20.07 - 4:20 am | #

"OK. Fair enough. I thought you were attacking Jones."

@GAK - Are you Alex Jones? In disguise? I sure hope not.

"And that shit always pisses me off. I think the Moore interview, and it's interpetation at PP,
was fairly accurate."

Except for ONE quote that BLOWS it out of the water. You can't attack mainstream media lies in one breath, and then deal out your own in another. It's simply unacceptable. If PP is to be the watchtower against MSM lies, they MUST clean their own house up first.

" I also felt that Alex, on radio yesterday, was much to kind to mr Moore in his comments."

Jones is almost always, without exception, a true gentleman with his guests - even the ones he clearly disagrees with totally. I think it's one of his biggest strengths.

"But it's still a good thing. I am glad Moore pointed out the 100 cameras at the Pentagon, and by doing so, he was hinting at the obvious. 911 inside job. "

I'm sorry, but this is where I fundamentally disagree, and state that that is -your- interpretation. To take his words at face value, all he is saying is that he would like to see the truth come out. We really don't know whether he thinks it was a missile or whatever, but we do know he wants to see the truth come out. That would be consistent with his agenda on many other fronts.

"He said, I want to know why we can't see the live footage? Raises many eyebrows. He clearly suspects foul play, and vocalized it clearly."

This is a lie, and a falsehood. It's your interpretation. He did -not- say this. It's disingenuous, "spin doctoring" to say this. Trust me, what you did in the statement above (just trust me on this) is something that takes place in Washington PR firms -every- second of the day. You took a page right out of their playbook.

"If you choose to interpet it as something else, I can't stop you."

I've interpreted NOTHING else. That's the whole point and what I'm screaming about - there is no "something else" - when you read it on the page, after a cup of hot chocolate and a sit down, there is nothing explosive about what he's saying.

"Then again, I won't be standing in your shoes on judgement day, just mine."

Well if you believe that, then no wonder it's so hard for you to deal with empirical evidence. Perhaps I have a different belief of what happens after death. But it really has nothing to do with this.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 4:20 am | #

Jesus was defeated to J. Or was he............
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 4:19 am | #

Actually, i like Moore's movies; they tell a side of things that very few other film makers will even touch. He has taken alot of shit, including death threats, since 9-11 came out. He is not the pussy some here say he is. How many movies has anyone here made?
j. | 06.20.07 - 4:17 am | #

Dude. We don't need Moore. But the fact is, the things he said basically scream inside job. If you can't see that, then you have "selective vision".
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 4:17 am | #

slow witted moron vs. Wizard of fuck rodent
who will remain standing?
taking odds at 3-5 onthe wizard
j. | 06.20.07 - 4:15 am | #

We don't even need Moore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We could skewer that fat fuck on a shishkabob without skipping a beat. He ain't shit.
If by now, you don't know that 911 was an inside job, then you have been jaw jacking too much, and need to start doing your research.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 4:14 am | #

PWNED? Sorry. I only speak English, whatever you are.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 4:12 am | #

"We are talking about one simple matter here, but you have complicated it to no end. So where, on the "911 inside job" graph, do you, in your wisdom, think that Michael Moore is?"

I'm almost certain Moore doesn't believe it was an inside job. Which makes it all the more important that HACKS writing for PP don't fuck it up and CLAIM that he said otherwise (when there's not a SHRED of evidence to prove that he did)...

The whole thing is a nice big TRAP for the NWO to pull the rug out from under AJ and PP....
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 4:11 am | #

OK. Fair enough. I thought you were attacking Jones. And that shit always pisses me off. I think the Moore interview, and it's interpetation at PP, was fairly accurate. I also felt that Alex, on radio yesterday, was much to kind to mr Moore in his comments. But it's still a good thing. I am glad Moore pointed out the 100 cameras at the Pentagon, and by doing so, he was hinting at the obvious. 911 inside job.
He said, I want to know why we can't see the live footage? Raises many eyebrows. He clearly suspects foul play, and vocalized it clearly.

If you choose to interpet it as something else, I can't stop you. Then again, I won't be standing in your shoes on judgement day, just mine.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 4:11 am | #

@GAK :
Read down the page you slow witted moron.

You know, the story with the headline :

"Michael Moore: 9/11 Could Be Inside Job"

Somehow PWNED doesn't even BEGIN to do justice. You really are a fucking idiot.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 4:06 am | #

Dumbfuck.
The article is titled "Michael Moore has serious questions about 911". And you take that ball, and run with it, as if you had some sort of incredible front page evidence of foul play.

Hate is a strong word. I don't hate Moore. But I do think he is trying to preserve his "title" as the big truth guy. But he ain't. Oh, and ain't isn't a word either, but I like it and you damn well know what I mean, you not white Jackalope.

You may not have deliberately lied, you may have just spoken out of your own stupidity. Which is evident.

We are talking about one simple matter here, but you have complicated it to no end. So where, on the "911 inside job" graph, do you, in your wisdom, think that Michael Moore is?

That dude is a grandstander. He makes a living at it. I highly question his overall integrity.

As I do yours, you misdirecting smoke & mirrors Wizard of fuck rodent.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 4:03 am | #

@GAK let's get one thing straight. I think Alex Jones is a very intelligent man (unlike you). I am quite happy to criticise him because I do believe that even if you respect someone you should be able to criticise them - especially when you know them to be wrong. In the case of this website, I see a number of articles that are -pathetically- written, or in the case of this article, are flat out lies. Do you think that me attacking those writers is about attacking Alex Jones? Are you even smart enough to work out that by attacking these writers I'm actually trying to HELP Jones, and stop these fucking charlatans from robbing credibility from him?

No you never thought of that did you, you zealot. You're using the exact same stupid binary logic "support the troops" type horseshit. Just because you are against the war doesn't mean you don't support the troops. Likewise you can both respect somebody and criticise them at the same time. If you put that individual on a pedestal, your ability to use your own brain and logic and reason go out the window.

You seem to revere him as some sort of GOD. That's not just stupid, it's dangerous. I don't care how much of a Patriot Alex Jones is, he's a human being like you or me. If you start treating him like a god, the movement has already lost its battle for credibility. Nobody respects a demagogue with slobbering obsequeous "fans" for followers.

You're a perfect example of what I'm talking about. You can't even string a logical argument together against me, because you're torn between your love for Jones and your hatred for Moore.

You're LOST.

And by the way - I didn't "insult" Jones (another lie, good stuff).
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 3:54 am | #

@GAK you've truly stepped in it now..

"Yiddish.
Your an excellent spin doctor. "

The correct grammar is "you're". Just pointing it out, as one spin doctor to another.

"First of all, I could give a fuck about Moore."

Then why the fuck are you arguing with me?

"I think he's a pussy cause he knew 911 was an inside job along time ago."

Oh right. And you can prove this?

"But he wants to be famous."

He -is- famous. Thanks to idiots like you giving him more credit than he deserves.

"So lending any credit to people like Alex Jones (the real heroes) must really burn his ass."

Find me the exact moment in that video where he even MENTIONED Alex Jones.

But he has no choice now. So he "eludes" to it, there by diffusing both sides.

"That's pussy. If by now, you don't know that 911 was for sure an inside job, then I am calling you either stupid, or a liar."

Did I say that? What the fuck does this have to do with me? For the record, I happen to think it was. But that's not why I'm so angry at this "news" story.

"And yes, you did lie. Moore clearly stated a suspicion that the government was withholding at least 50% of the truth. So once again, dickheads like you twist it to suit your own agenda."

No you fucking moronic cunt. I did not say he didn't say that. All I said was the quote "9/11 Was an inside job" (as stated in the article) NEVER, EVER came out of Moore's mouth. That's not a lie, that's a fact. You may deny it till the cows come home, but as far as material that is solid, hard, verifiable evidence, I am telling the truth. You on the other hand, are doing a bit of "spin doctoring" of your own - trying to weave a fantastical web of what Moore (somebody you admittedly hate) MIGHT have been impying, to support your own agenda. So tell me, how, -exactly- is this kind of misrepresentation of "credible" individuals' testimonies supposed to lend credibility to the movement? It does nothing but give fuel for the NWO to claim they're all a bunch of loonies. If this kind of pathetic yellow journalism continues, they'd be absolutely right too. If you can't step outside of your own beliefs (no matter how right you might think they are), then you're never ever going to be able to fight the true evil in the world - ignorance. I suspect Alex Jones would agree with me on that last one too, judging by some of the rants he has on air about how stupid the people are.

"Finally Yiddish, at least I have a set of balls, and I tell the truth."

If you are accusing me of being a liar, you need to prove it, and so far you're full of shit. Go fuck your bible, moron.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 3:47 am | #

Yiddish. What happened to all your excellent logic?
NEED A MOMENT?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 3:43 am | #

Keep insulting Jones, Yiddish. Your a fool, and you ain't got shit. You know it, and I know it.
GOT MILK?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 3:42 am | #

What's being done to American right now is this simple:

Watch my right hand carefully, and don't take your eyes off it........................
POW!!!!! Left hand upside your head.

Also, I have 3 coconut shells. Watch as I place Osama under the middle shell. Now, watch, as I quickly move the shells...................
Good. Now where is Osama?

I have 3 more coconut shells. I am placing your Constitutional rights under the middle shell. Now watch carefully....................
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 3:40 am | #

I would exclude Ron Paul from Iowa too. Unless he agreed to try some Iowa home grown french fries.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 3:34 am | #

Yiddish.
Your an excellent spin doctor.
First of all, I could give a fuck about Moore. I think he's a pussy cause he knew 911 was an inside job along time ago. But he wants to be famous. So lending any credit to people like Alex Jones (the real heroes) must really burn his ass. But he has no choice now. So he "eludes" to it, there by diffusing both sides.

That's pussy. If by now, you don't know that 911 was for sure an inside job, then I am calling you either stupid, or a liar.

And yes, you did lie. Moore clearly stated a suspicion that the government was withholding at least 50% of the truth. So once again, dickheads like you twist it to suit your own agenda.

Finally Yiddish, at least I have a set of balls, and I tell the truth.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 3:31 am | #

Ron Paul Excluded in Iowa
Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com
http://freemarketnews.com/WorldN...s.asp? nid=44134
Iowans for Tax Relief and Iowa Christian Alliance will host a presidential candidates forum on Saturday, June 30th in Des Moines. Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Sam Brownback, Jim Gilmore, Mike Huckabee, Tommy Thompson, and Tom Tancredo will participate.

Ron Paul, however, will not participate. Why? Because he wasn’t invited.

We heard about this forum from numerous supporters in Iowa who asked why Dr. Paul was not going to participate. Those supporters assumed that Dr. Paul was invited.

The campaign office had not received an invitation so we called this morning; thinking we might have misplaced the invitation or simply overlooked it. Lew Moore, our campaign manager, called Mr. Edward Failor, an officer of Iowans for Tax Relief, to ask about it. To our shock, Mr. Failor told us Dr. Paul was not invited; he was not going to be invited; and he would not be allowed to participate. And when asked why, Mr. Failor refused to explain. The call ended.

Lew then called Mr. Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance, to talk with him. Mr. Scheffler did not answer so Lew left a message. He has yet to respond.

Why are the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluding the one Republican candidate who scored at the top of every online poll taken after the MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN debates? Why are they denying Iowans the opportunity to hear from the Republican presidential candidate whose popularity is growing by the day?

We couldn’t get answers to these questions from Messrs. Failor and Scheffler. Maybe you’ll have better luck. Their contact information is below.

It's ironic that on the same day we learned the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluded Dr. Paul from their candidates forum, we received a call from ABC News confirming Dr. Paul’s participation in its nationally broadcast August 5th debate to be held in Des Moines.

Kent Snyder, Chairman
Ron Paul 2008

Contact Information

Edward Failor
Iowans for Tax Relief
2610 Park Avenue
Muscatine, Iowa 52761
Phone: 563-288-3600 or 877-913-3600
Fax: 563-264-2413
E-mail: itr@taxrelief.org
Web Site

Steve Scheffler, President
Iowa Christian Alliance
939 Office Park Road, Suite 115
West Des Moines, Iowa 50265
Phone: 515-225-1515
Fax: 515-225-1826
E-mail: slscheffler@iowachristian.com
Web Site

(Press Release)
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:26 am | #

And Sharon is still in a Coma
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:16 am | #

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He was getting soft, they had to "give" him a stroke...the bloodthinning treatment was way out of line for his condition....clearly a hatchet job. Then again he was an ass.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:19 am | #

He put his own soldiers in harms way 3 separate times while killing innocent civilians, his 2 wives and son mysteriously died.

The guy had evil emminating from his existence.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:22 am | #

Need sleep. Wish I could stay and write my mindless shit, but I must work tomorrow. Best to you all and see ya soon.
Peace
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:21 am | #

@GAK let me dismantle your bullshit piece by piece. This should be a piece of cake.

"Hah!!!
The cover up. See, I knew it. Your full of it Yiddish. And you hate Jews."

Riiight.. Ok.. Is this based on something I "alluded" to? I don't hate jews. You can quote me on that.

" You are just another A typical Jew hating "create my own reality" but ignore the facts special interest asshole."

Ok.. So you -do- care about truth? The very statement you made here could be used to further my argument - that the writer of the Michael Moore story was so brainwashed by his own special interest - 9/11 truth (the fact that I am a truther is irrelevant), that he deliberately falsified a statement by Michael Moore to support his own reality. It's absolutely irrelevant what you believe Michael Moore was thinking during the interview. A NEWS story focuses on the FACTS of what he said - not "What you think he wanted to say". That's just propaganda, like Pravda or any other left wing rag full of lies.

"Moore did everything but jump on the camera man to say 911 inside job."

Right.. This is your opinion, though. You do understand the distinction between opinion and fact, don't you? Because unless you have Michael Moore on record saying the above, basically this is just the crazed rantings of a lunatic's (you) wishful thinking.

"Cause he knows he will lose alot of credibility if he doesn't say it. But he won't scream it in the camera, cause he is a fat chicken shit grandstander who cares more about his own career and fame than he does about America, "

Wait a minute.. So you hate this guy. So how exactly is it useful for you to defend the article, which is falsifying quotes where he purports to support the core belief of the 9/11 truth movement. You're all over the place GAK. If you really did hate Michael Moore, you'd be agreeing with me right now. It's this bizzarre dichotomy where you sort of hope Moore supports 9/11 truth because you know he's "credible", but you still persist in claiming he's part of the coverup, because you hate him so much. You are not using your brain at all, you're using your emotions.

"the WHOLE TRUTH, and freedom.
I should call Alex's lawyers and have them sue your ass for accusing him of libel."

Heh.. Yeah um.. I didn't.. But there is a prima facie case against author of the story, unless he can prove that Michael Moore said "9/11 is an inside job". From the videotape I saw, Michael Moore said no such thing. He didn't even come fucking close, you people amaze me.

"You stupid rodent."

Thanks, I do like hamsters. They're cute, and cuddly.

"Go invent some more lies. That seems to be your real gig."

Right. Would you care to directly address a single lie I've made, here? In this forum? Please be specific.

By the way, leave your weapons at the door, I'd hate for somebody getting shot, since you seem to think with your balls rather than your brain.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 3:21 am | #

J. I grew up in Lynwood WA. Seattle is a fun and beautiful emerald city. Lot's of art, and music, and fun. But the surrounding suburbs have become a police state control grid nightmare.
And the real wealth, consists of the exchanged alien technology. We haven't needed fossil fuels for 35 years now.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 3:19 am | #

“I had nothing to do with the attacks!” Osama Bin Laden
http://911exposed.org/Missile.htm
Is there technology for remote control aircraft?

Technology for the remote control piloting of aircraft has existed since the 1940s. The CIA has even used drone (UAV) planes to carry out assassinations.[i] In fact, prior to 9/11, there were plans to assassinate Osama Bin Laden with a Predator drone armed with “Hellfire” missiles, but the CIA and other administration officials opted not to attempt the operation.[ii] Other drones in common service with the U.S. military are the “Global Hawk”, BQM-34, and MQM-107 systems. This remote control technology can also be installed on standard passenger-type aircraft.

What was Operation “Northwoods”?
Operation “Northwoods” was an early ‘60’s plan by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to create a pretext for an invasion of Cuba. The plans developed ways to trick the American public into supporting a war to oust Cuba’s Fidel Castro.

The operation laid forth an array of attacks on Americans by the US government, such as terrorism, hijackings, assassinations, and blowing up our own ships or planes. One such plan was to create an incident, which would have a USAF jet, painted as a Cuban MIG, shoot down an American airliner over international waters in an unprovoked attack. Their clever plan would have the airliner do a plane swap over Florida with a remote control airliner drone. The real airliner would land safely, while the drone, over international waters, would be remotely detonated.

Fortunately for America, JFK rejected “Northwoods” (See Appendix for portions of the original, now declassified “Northwoods” document).

With today’s technology it is easy to remote control an aircraft from the air, ground, or both simultaneously. There are many defense contractors that produce remote control technology, such as Lockheed-Martin and Boeing, but one person and one company, seems to stand. Rabbi Dov Zakheim, who latter would become Comptroller of the Pentagon in May 2001, headed a high-tech company, called System Planning Corp (SPC) that specialized in drone electronics. According to the company website, they specialize in many areas of defense technology, including a highly sophisticated war-game technology that allows the control of as many as eight different drones from a remote location, either on the ground or airborne, with a range of several hundred miles. This technology can be used on many different types of aircraft, including large passenger jets.[iii] In October 1994, NASA flew a Boeing 737 on 110 flawless remote controlled missions (See Appendix: Remote Control for full story).[iv] It would seem System Planning Corp could convert just about any aircraft that suited their purposes into a remote control variant and have it able to follow commands from the air or ground. An EC-130 outfitted with the “DC” drone control gear would be an excellent platform for Rabbi Zakheim’s technology.

One theory has the 767’s involved in the WTC attacks––as coming from the USAF KC-767 tankers that were outfitted with remote-control electronics. Rabbi Zakheim was directly involved in both the tanker deal (with Richard Perle) and the drone technology. Experts expect up to 2,000 UAVs in 5-10 years. That’s now!

The website, Directory of U.S. Military Rockets and Missiles gives the following description of a Raytheon MQM-107 Drone:

The MQM-107 Streaker is a high-subsonic subscale aerial target used by the U.S. Army and Air Force. The MQM-107A is powered by a turbojet in a nacelle under the fuselage, and is launched from a zero-length launcher with the help of a single solid-propellant rocket booster. The target can fly preprogrammed missions, but can also be controlled from the ground through a radio command guidance system. The Streaker’s flight envelope includes speeds from about 370 km/h (200 kts.) to 926 km/h (500 kts.), constant high-g turns, and flight at very low altitudes. The target is recovered by a two-stage parachute system, which is initiated either automatically by loss of critical systems, or by ground command. The MQM-107A can use the usual variety of payloads for aerial targets, including radar, IR, and visual augmentation devices, scoring devices, and countermeasures.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:18 am | #

Read Orwell!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:16 am | #

Is there any good news?
Steve Irwin is dead. Steve was the Grand master of the new Scottish rite, and a council of 9 member of the Illuminati.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 3:16 am | #

Long live the spirit of Seattle!
Nationalise the banks.
Nationalise the natural resources of this land.
Make Exxon and Haliburton fund the war in Iraq and in Afghanistan.
Share the wealth with ALL people.
If the wealthy will not share freely, then force them to by law and public demand.
Money is tyranny.................destroy the tyrant!
j. | 06.20.07 - 3:16 am | #

The idea is startling but immediately recognizable as true: our most deadly enemies are in the corporate boardrooms and governmental offices where decisions are made that consign millions to death and misery--not deliberately, but as "collateral damage' of the lust for profit and power.
j. | 06.20.07 - 3:09 am | #

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COrporate entities should not have human rights....most states had a provision that corporations had to work to the benefit of the state of incorporation...those rules were stripped out (under Regan I think) now corporations operate as socipaths racing to the bottom line.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:15 am | #

June 19, 2007
Findings
Taxes a Pleasure? Check the Brain Scan
By JOHN TIERNEY
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/1...int& oref=slogin
The University of Oregon announced a new piece of research last week with a startling headline: “Paying taxes, according to the brain, can bring satisfaction.”

Could this be true? The research is in the new issue of Science, so it’s got the right pedigree, but still. How could politicians have gotten it so wrong? Even the most liberal Democratic candidates never imagined a lot of voters whistling as they merrily write out checks to the I.R.S.

Before any campaign strategists start poring over brain-scan data in the paper, let me temper the happy news. First, this study did not exactly involve a nationally representative sample of taxpayers. The sample consisted of 19 female students at the University of Oregon. And they were not exactly paying taxes as the T-word is understood on the campaign trail.

It is a fascinating bit of research, not so much for its political implications but for what it reveals about humans’ compulsion to be nice. We preach altruism to our children and occasionally even practice it ourselves. Viewers of “American Idol” weren’t surprised to see even Simon Cowell sounding like Albert Schweitzer when he visited sick children in Africa; we expect at least a show of altruism from everyone.

We are so convinced of our goodness that we recoil at the philosophers and social scientists who have come up with less uplifting explanations for our behavior. (What is it with these nasty academics?)

Kant considered acts motivated by sympathy as not praiseworthy, because they make the do-gooder feel better. Psychologists have similarly argued that “empathy altruism” is ultimately selfish, because of the emotional benefits it provides to the giver.

The sociobiologist Robert Trivers worked out the mathematics of “reciprocal altruism,” whereby our urge to be nice ultimately serves to propagate our genes by inducing others to cooperate with us. If you know that even Simon Cowell cannot help being altruistic, you are more inclined to give him help when he desperately needs it.

Some economists have attributed altruism to the “warm glow” effect — the pleasurable feeling of playing Lady Bountiful and basking in public admiration. They’ve argued that there is no such thing as “pure altruism.” But now the pure variety has been spotted in the brains of students, at least according to the new paper by a psychologist, Ulrich Mayr, and two economists, William T. Harbaugh and Daniel R. Burghart, all at the University of Oregon.

Their experiment was drawn up to remove some of the usual incentives for being charitable like the fear of looking stingy or the prestige of being named in the program of a charity dinner. Each student was given $100 and told that nobody would know how much of it she chose to keep or give away, not even the researchers who enlisted her in the experiment and scanned her brain. Payoffs were recorded on a portable memory drive that the students took to a lab assistant, who then paid the students in cash and mailed donations to charity without knowing who had given what.

The brain responses were measured by a functional M.R.I. machine as a series of transactions occurred. Sometimes the student had to choose whether to donate some of her cash to a local food bank. Sometimes a tax was levied that sent her money to the food bank without her approval. Sometimes she received extra money, and sometimes the food bank received money without any of it coming from her.

Sure enough, when the typical student chose to donate to the food bank, she was rewarded with that warm glow: increased activity in the same ancient areas of the brain — the caudate, nucleus accumbens and insula — that respond when you eat a sweet dessert or receive money. But these pleasure centers were also activated, albeit not as much, when she was forced to pay a tax to the food bank.

This doesn’t mean that the student, or anyone else, would necessarily enjoy writing a check to the Internal Revenue Service that would be spent on plenty of programs less appealing than a food bank. It is more like the tax collected by a state lottery that dedicates its profits to schools. (And you can see why the lotteries work so well on the brain — they are stimulating greed and altruism at the same time.)

But the results do bolster the case for “pure altruism,” because the student paying the tax could not take personal credit for deciding to feed the hungry. In real life, she might get a warm glow by voting for a candidate who promised higher taxes to help the needy, but in this experiment she did not make any choice at all.

“The most surprising result is that these basic pleasure centers in the brain don’t respond only to what’s good for yourself,” said Dr. Mayr, the psychologist. “They also seem to be tracking what’s good for other people, and this occurs even when the subjects don’t have a say in what happens.”

Dr. Harbaugh, one of the economists, said the results did not resolve the debate over whether to help the needy with public programs or private charity. “There’s something for both sides here,” he said. “We’re showing that paying taxes does produce a neural reward. But we’re showing that the neural reward is even higher when you have voluntary giving.”

Of course, not everyone receives the same neural rewards from giving. The researchers divided their subjects into “egoists” and “altruists,” according to whether their brains registered more pleasure receiving money themselves or more pleasure watching money go to the charity.

There were almost equal numbers of egoists and altruists, and their brain scans correlated with their altruistic behavior. The altruists chose to donate $20 on average, while the egoists gave just $11. Unfortunately, the researchers did not ask the students in either group for their political preferences, so we cannot even begin to speculate who is stingier, Democrats or Republicans.

The most intriguing results were the ones from two of the experimental subjects, students whose brain scans made them definite egoists yet who were also among the most generous in donating. You could dismiss them as statistical outliers, but I like to think we have finally spotted the creature dismissed by so many scholars as myth.

These two women enjoyed no neural reward from charity — their brains didn’t get enough of a warm glow to compensate for the pain of parting with their money — yet they made anonymous donations anyway. Diogenes, we may not have found an honest man, but we do seem to have located a couple of true altruists. Either that or two determined masochists.
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I cannot believe this was in the NYT and not The Onion.

War = Peace
Love = Hate
Truth = Deception
Protection = Liberty
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:15 am | #

J. Right. Except,
Not deliberately? Wrong. You are a little behind on your studies of the secret societies. Ask Sane to post some links for you.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 3:14 am | #

Robots that learn the location of a certain target could lead other robots to it without any human supervision.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:08 am | #

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We wil create our replacements; the next evolutionary step, so to speak. Nano tech combined with intelligent machines is the end of carbon absed life as we know it!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:11 am | #

What shall we do then?
we start with the core problem:there is immense wealth available, enough to care for the urgent needs of everyone on Earth, and this wealth is being monopolized by a very small number of individuals, who squander it on luxuries and war while millions die and millions more live in misery and squalor.
This is a problem understood by people everywhere, becasue it has a simplicity absent in issues of war and nationalism.
The world is run by the rich and that money decides politics, culture, and some of the most intimate human relations.
The idea is startling but immediately recognizable as true: our most deadly enemies are in the corporate boardrooms and governmental offices where decisions are made that consign millions to death and misery--not deliberately, but as "collateral damage' of the lust for profit and power.
j. | 06.20.07 - 3:09 am | #

Is there any good news out there Sane?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:05 am | #

Jerry Fallwell is still dead
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:09 am | #

GOVERNMENT STUDIES HOW TO HERD MASSES ONTO TRAINS THEN INTO HALLIBURTON CONCENTRATION CAMPS

Follow the Leader: Democracy in Herd Mentality
http://www.livescience.com/ anima...low_leader.html
By Michael Schirber, LiveScience Staff Writer

posted: 08 February, 2005 7:00 a.m. ET
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Bees do it. Birds do it. So do fish and wildebeests. They are all able to gracefully flock or swarm in a particular direction even though not every member of the group knows where they are going.

Even human beings will tend to follow each other with a herd mentality -- say, out of a crowded theater. New research provides some surprising insight into what's going on, including a group penchant for democratic decisions."Groups of animals move purposefully, yet often only relatively few individuals have pertinent information as to where to travel," said Iain Couzin of the University of Oxford.Biologists have often wondered if there is some complex communication that goes on between the informed and the uninformed. But Couzin and his collaborators have shown in simulations that a simple set of behavioral rules can control a group."There's no explicit signaling in our model," Couzin told LiveScience. "No one is saying, 'I know something - come follow me.'" The only requirement seems to be a balance between a need to stay in the group and a desire on the part of some to go off in their own preferred direction. These goal-oriented individuals look just like their naïve colleagues.

"No inherent differences, genetic or otherwise, such as dominance or body size, need to be invoked to explain leadership," Couzin said.The fact that the followers in the simulation have no way to recognize who is leading them may explain how animals efficiently move in crowded environments, where they can only see their nearest neighbors."[This study] demonstrates the power of the little guy," said Daniel Rubenstein of Princeton University, who did not participate in the study. "You don't need avowed leaders, you don't need complex signaling."The results, published in the Feb. 3 issue of the journal Nature, might be useful in developing swarms of robots for exploring the oceans or other planets.

Follow the virtual leader
In computer simulations, Couzin and his colleagues programmed virtual animals with the instinct to stay near others - an important survival trait in many species. The researchers then endowed some members in the flock with a preferred direction - be it toward a food source or a new nesting site.

They then determined how close the group would come to arriving at this goal.Accuracy increased as more of the members knew where to go. But at a certain point, adding more informed individuals did not increase the accuracy by very much. To give an example, a group of 10 gets about the same advantage from having five leaders as having six.The minimum percentage of informed individuals needed to achieve a certain level of accuracy depended on the size of the group. If 10 virtual buffaloes need 50 percent of the herd to know where the watering hole is, a group of 200 can get by with only 5 percent.In nature, it is likely that the number of leaders is kept as low as possible. Couzin gave the example of bees, for which scouting out a new nest site is dangerous, as well as time-consuming. Studies have shown that only five percent of a hive's population gets involved with scouting.

Democratic principles

As is the case in human interactions, there will sometimes be a disagreement between those who are in the know.

For instance, there may be five individuals who know of a food supply to the east, but four others who have spotted food to the north. The researchers found that the entire group will tend to settle on the direction with the greater number of informed individuals.

"In the real world, you do have individuals with different information, needs and preferences," Couzin explained. "What we show is that - using very simple rules - the group will choose the majority. It's almost like a democratic decision."

To test whether these simple rules actually apply in real animals, Couzin's team has begun experiments in which certain fish are trained to associate one direction with a reward. These informed individuals will then be mixed with untrained fish to see if the group can be led.

Informed humans and robots

The scientists also plan to look at human crowds. Couzin thinks there may be a similar sort of mechanism to explain, say, how we walk along a busy street.

"We do it more or less on autopilot," he said.

Perhaps we are subconsciously reconciling two simple commands: get to work on time and avoid stepping on anyone's shoes.

"The mechanism of coordination we propose is very simple and requires only limited cognitive ability," Couzin said. "This simplicity, generality and the effectiveness of the mechanism lend support to its being selected for in populations."

The simple network of commands may also be an efficient way to program teams of robots. Couzin has previously worked with researchers at Princeton University, who are designing underwater robots that can act autonomously.

Robots that learn the location of a certain target could lead other robots to it without any human supervision.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:08 am | #

Hah!!!
The cover up. See, I knew it. Your full of it Yiddish. And you hate Jews. You are just another A typical Jew hating "create my own reality" but ignore the facts special interest asshole.
Moore did everything but jump on the camera man to say 911 inside job. Cause he knows he will lose alot of credibility if he doesn't say it. But he won't scream it in the camera, cause he is a fat chicken shit grandstander who cares more about his own career and fame than he does about America, the WHOLE TRUTH, and freedom.
I should call Alex's lawyers and have them sue your ass for accusing him of libel.
You stupid rodent.
Go invent some more lies. That seems to be your real gig.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 3:07 am | #

GOVERNMENT STUDIES NON_VIOLENT CROWD CONTROL / HOW TO DEMOLISH AND BUST UP A CROWD OF CITIZENS OBSERVING THEIR CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT

Modeling Crowd Behavior

http://www.livescience.com/php/ v...0607Crowd_model
Simulated people, or ?agents?, run from a burning car. The simulation tries to predict how real people would react in such an emergency.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:06 am | #

GOVERNMENT STUDIES NON_VIOLENT CROWD CONTROL / HOW TO DEMOLISH AND BUST UP A CROWD OF CITIZENS OBSERVING THEIR CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:04 am | #

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Is there any good news out there Sane?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:05 am | #

GOVERNMENT STUDIES NON_VIOLENT CROWD CONTROL / HOW TO DEMOLISH AND BUST UP A CROWD OF CITIZENS OBSERVING THEIR CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT

Model Predicts Mob Behavior
http://www.livescience.com/ techn...d_behavior.html
By Andrea Thompson, LiveScience Staff Writer

posted: 14 June 2007 11:29 am ET

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Scientists who want to see how a crowd behaves in an emergency can’t exactly shout “Fire!” on a city street and watch everyone panic and run. But a newly developed computer model can.

The 3-D model starts with patterns of human behavior and movement and uses them to simulate the behavior of a crowd in mob situations and pedestrian habits under certain building configurations, resulting in a virtual crowd video.

“Crowds are vital to the lifeblood of our cities,” said the model’s creator, Paul Torrens of Arizona State University. But, he adds, it is impractical “to establish live experiments with hundreds or thousands of people along busy streetscapes.”

Torrens’s model uses what he calls an “agent-based methodology.” He can put individual people, or “agents,” each with different characteristics of age, sex, size and health, into the model and have them process information about the world around them. Their unique characteristic combinations make the agents interpret that information and react in different ways.

“It’s the same way we process information in the real world,” Torrens said.

Though you’re not aware of it, when you walk down a crowded street, your brain is constantly monitoring your surroundings and planning the path you will take to your destination while simultaneously monitoring for obstacles.

A prototype that Torrens has developed models the evacuation of a crowded area during a fire when there is only one point of escape, but he has used his method to develop a primitive model of a situation in which a disease spreads through casual contact, and he is attempting to create scenarios in which agitated crowds turn into unruly mobs.

The model could also be used in planning cities to optimize walking space for pedestrians and alleviate congestion.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:05 am | #

GOVERNMENT STUDIES NON_VIOLENT CROWD CONTROL / HOW TO DEMOLISH AND BUST UP A CROWD OF CITIZENS OBSERVING THEIR CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:04 am | #

Oh shit spelling counts? I am so fucked......
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:03 am | #

I've seen how the far left news works - it's pretty much a carbon copy of a lot of the articles on this site recently!
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 2:55 am | #

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Well I cannot argue that the leaned into the pitch so to speak; however, I do no think it was an atrocity such as is perpetrated by FOX et al. But misleading is not the way I want my news, I hear you. I have found some of this stuff on PP but overall I do not see much of this kind of deceptive shit here.......sure is more straight forward than mos tother media outlets.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:01 am | #

@ Gabriel Alan King

"Alluding" ? What the fuck? What the fuck kind of journalist QUOTES somebody based on something they BELIEVE the subject was "Alluding" to?

You said "10$ says you don't even believe in the Bible."

Can I infer from this that you are "alluding" to the fact that you think I'm actually a Jew, and you're a racist pig with homicidal tendencies?

How would you feel if I published that? Use your fucking brain (if you have one).
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 2:57 am | #

@Ron in LA

I take your point that he's lending credibility to the movement, and that's a good thing, but I'm sorry you cannot attribute a statement to someone just because they say "right".

The use of the word is -clearly- as phatic communcation, in place of "go on", or "uh-huh" to indicate he was listening. Anyway, even if he was agreeing, you simply cannot make up a quote in which he says something he didn't say and say he said it!

I agree it's good that someone like that is lending credibility to the movement, but then the movement goes and shoots itself in the foot with propaganda like this that would be more comfortable nestled among the pages of a socialist newspaper than among intelligent people. I've seen how the far left news works - it's pretty much a carbon copy of a lot of the articles on this site recently!
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 2:55 am | #

Michael Moore eluded to possible foul play in 911. You are reaching.
How could you possibly complicate something so simple? Answer: You are basically full of shit.
I saw the video today, genius. He eluded to foul play, especially when he cited the 100 missing pentagon videos.
And so what is your point, accuser?
I can tell your full of shit now, like I could before.
10$ says you don't even believe in the Bible.
So what the fuck do you know, strip club bottom feeder?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 2:52 am | #

I just watched the video of Michael Moore again. NOWHERE does he say ANYTHING resembling "9/11 was an inside job".

This article is propaganda of the purest kind. Absolutely disgusting, that Alex Jones would stoop to the tactics of those he's fighting.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 2:46 am | #

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at 6:20 in the video hes says "right" to the statement that 9/11 was an inside job. Overall his statements imply that he is no longer considering us all whackos. I think you are wrong on this and should put it to bed!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:51 am | #

This would throw a curve the FED's would never expect and the way I see it, the more people there the less likely something bad will happen.

Sincerely;
Steve
Steve WA State | 06.20.07 - 12:39 am | #

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It would be good if we caould all go rally around the Browns! Unfortunately most of us are broke because the cost of living is so fucking higha nd our dollar is worth half of what is was when Jr. was appointed!
I shit housing in LA are at median 439,000.00 my neighborhood is at a median near 1.5 million; obviously I do not own the house i live in........or I would be at the Browns.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:46 am | #

Gingrich ‘rewrites 9/11 history.’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...es-911-history/
A new advertisement by Newt Gingrich linking the threat of terrorism to the immigration debate “rewrites 9/11 history.”

“Mohamed Atta, and several other 9/11 hijackers were in the United States illegally,” Gingrich begins the ad. Photos of Atta and other 9/11 hijackers appear and the word “Illegally” — printed in bold, red letters — flashes over the screen.

“Today, more than five years since that tragic day, our borders remain open to gangs, drug dealers and terrorists,” says Gingrich in the ad.

However, according to the 9/11 Commission Report, Gingrich’s statement is incorrect.

“Atta was in the country legally on 9/11,” said Janice Kephart, a former counsel to the 9/11 Commission and co-author of the commission’s report on 9/11 and Terrorist Travel.

All of the 19 men who hijacked planes on September 11th, including Atta, entered the United States on a tourist or student visa, issued by the former U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service, according to the 9/11 Commission.

Watch the ad:
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:44 am | #

I get a kick outta how the anti-defamation league nails people for just stating simple non-offensive facts about Jews. Like the fact that they control the FED. They do this because they want to stay below radar.
DR. NWO | 06.20.07 - 2:44 am | #

US Papers Wednesday: Day Two in Diyala
"Hearts and Minds" for Soldiers, Mental Health for Diplomats
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...y_Two_in_Diyala

The New York Times runs circles around the other guys in reporting on the now full-blown US-Iraqi offensive in Diyala Province. After being the first off the block yesterday with the announcement of the operations, the NYT's man on the ground in Ba'quba is printing detailed descriptions of the action (from the embedded perspective) while the rest of the pack are playing catch-up.

Other Iraq-datelined news is dominated by the massive car bomb that damaged a Shi'a mosque in the capital and killed over 60, with both Times and Post reports including eyewitness accounts at the scene.

Stateside, the Monitor looks at "hearts and minds" training for US forces, and the Post riffs on its earlier series on mental health issues in the military with a look at stress, trauma, and PTSD in the diplomatic corps serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. Alissa Rubin leads her Iraq roundup in the Times with an on-the-ground account of the powerful suicide truck bomb in Baghdad that killed at least 61 and wounded 130. Reaction at the scene of the blast that devastated the Shi'a Khalani mosque on Tuesday. In addition to the outrage, sadness, and horror at the attack
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:40 am | #

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina Treasurer Thomas Ravenel has been indicted on federal cocaine charges.

Ravenel and another man, Michael L. Miller, have been accused of distributing less than 500 grams of the drug starting in late 2005.

Gov. Mark Sanford has suspended Ravenel immediately based on the serious nature of the charge. The governor said he'll name an interim treasurer soon.

U.S. Attorney Reggie Lloyd said Ravenel bought less than 500 grams of cocaine to share with other people.

Ravenel is chairman for former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign.
Rich | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:34 am | #

I'm not anti-semitic, that's just fact.
DR. NWO | 06.20.07 - 2:33 am | #

No excuses. No psycho babble. No 2nd amendment= SLAVERY
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:41 am | #

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You know what Gabriel you are right. I never thought i would be saying it but you are right! I hunt I have been shooting since i was 8 years old (4 if you count BB guns) but i always thought that gun control was a good thing....the last 6 years have shown me the err of my ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I actually trusted the government to help us out and do its part as stated in the constitution and Bill of Rights etc. I am now thinking that my guns and your guns are the only form of security that we have...and it aint much. Put my hand gun, shotgun, and rifles up against a fully auto anything and I am dead...but I have some leverage before I die......that maybe all we get! SOrry for the sprawling reply to an old post....
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:32 am | #

GAK, Jewish bankers are reality not myth!

Of the 12 banks that own the FED, only 1 bank is not controlled by Jews.......Rockefeller's Chase Bank.
DR. NWO | 06.20.07 - 2:31 am | #

@Gabriel Alan King

You're a moron. Do you really care about the truth? Do ANY of you really give a crap about the truth? Then you wouldn't disagree with me on this one. HE DIDN'T SAY IT. That makes it FALSE. It doesn't matter what he -implied-. Most civilised nations on earth have defamation laws for this very reason - anyone can be suggested to have implied anything if you have
the skills.

You said : "Moore never said "911 was definately and inside job", And therefore, the assertion of the original article is all together totally accurate."

Apart from the fact your statement makes no sense and contradicts itself (so he never said it, therefore the misquote was correct? What the fuck?), you're right. He also never said : "9/11 Could Be Inside Job". Did you SEE the headline? It was and I quote :

"Michael Moore: 9/11 Could Be Inside Job"

If you have even half a brain, you would know that in journalistic prose, that kind of statement is called attribution. As in that statement was attributed to him. It doesn't fucking matter that there was no quotation marks, the phrasing ATTRIBUTES that statement to Michael Moore.

Under the laws of most nations, if that statement is false, the person who wrote the article, and the news organisation that propogated it can be sued for defamation. The onus is on the journalist to prove that he said it, using tape or a transcript, or whatever.

You know the funny thing GAK, is I thought apart from that the article was interesting, potentially quite good. But how can you trust a so-called journalist who is so casual and flippant with the "facts". This is not the first time PP or Infowars have done this (it's a signature of the MI-6 yellow journalism of the Watson Brothers), and I'm really getting quite sick of it - they really don't need to. It's sensationalist and designed to increase readership.

In short, GAK - Grow a brain.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 2:28 am | #

You can call whoever's lawyers you want. Moore never said "911 was definately and inside job". And therefore, the assertion of the original article is all together totally accurate.
But thanks for accusing real men of God and the truth, while our country sinks like the Titanic thanks to a Satanic NWO.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 2:18 am | #

Your barking up the wrong tree. Yiddish.
Keep attacking the patriots. Meanwhile, the NWO is steamrolling our country. Got anything real to add besides petty trite whimsical bickerings over trivial and meaningless nonsense?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 2:15 am | #

Actually I was a little too optimistic - the story is still there.. Like a festering libellous sore..

Sit tight while I call Mike's lawyers..
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 2:07 am | #

LOL.. Wow.. I didn't expect the article to be changed so rapidly.

I should have taken a screen shot LOL .. Never thought you guys would resort to doing what CNN et al do - quietly change the story and hope nobody saw the truth - you're yellow.

I know other people saw it though. I'm guessing cooler heads upstairs prevailed. Good work.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 2:02 am | #

More irresponsible journalism from PrisonPlanet. Can you please show me the ACTUAL quote in that article where Michael Moore SAYS "9/11 Could have been an inside job?". How the hell do you think you can get away with BLATANTLY misquoting someone like that? It's not even misquoting, it's FABRICATING a quote. And you guys have the temerity to rant on about the Hearst Press and Yellow Journalism? LOL are you serious!?

It is IRRELEVANT that he said lots of things that pointed to that. If he didn't say it, he didn't say it, PERIOD. How the hell you expect to get SUPPORTERS for the cause when you practise such blatantly yellow journalistic practices I'll never know. At least the MSM has the integrity not to completely falsify a quote by someone. Aren't you even remotely afraid of Michael Moore's lawyers?

Absolutely, thoroughly, despicable. What could have been a really interesting, important article about Michael Moore's support for the 9/11 truth movement turns into fodder for the NWO to prove that people who run this site are just a bunch of lunatics who will say anything (even lie) to further their cause.
Yiddish Strip Club Owner | 06.20.07 - 1:59 am | #

It's pretty sad when in order to get the truth I have to come here, or tune into John Stewart or the Colbert report.

The reason that there is a strong frequency on the playlist of movies like "Red Dawn", "Braveheart", V, and "Gladiator", is NOT cause the NWO is trying to provoke us. It is because God is trying to get us ready for what's soon ahead. God is making sure the movies play.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 1:48 am | #

I am with you Alex. Liked the spilt coffee thing this morning. That was sort of funny. Been there, done that. I know this is the end for America. We are counting the days, not weeks. But I have a plan to do something about it. A good one. "Evil Bastard" patrol has been mobilized, and the Ghostbusters are on the way. We will take the fight to them, and they will be afraid. Time for man to pony up, all sides.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 1:38 am | #

Sane. I must compliment you on your home page. Very true and heartfelt. Awesome work, TRON.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 1:18 am | #

Funny how they use transportation problems to "tighten the Federal control grid". All sugar coated and packaged nicely, of course.
Thanks for the bolds.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 1:11 am | #

"validate driver behavior and acceptance"
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:07 am | #

This is a message to all illegal aliens.
We know what your up to. Fuck La Raza. And fuck you. My gun is loaded, and what you intended to do to us, we will do to you.
Get the fuck out of America, you traitor brainwashed pieces of shit. And fuck Philipinos too.
You don't like white people? Then fuck you.
I have some Mexican and philipino friends who are cool. And they don't want to hurt us.
But if some of you think you are gonna make a temporary deal with the NWO to take us down,

YOU GOT ANOTHER THING COMING! You brown skin little scumbags.

Wait till the whites and blacks realize you are racist. We will stomp on your asses. Cause most black people are loyal to America.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 1:07 am | #

TRAFFIC CONGESTION:
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/DOT/FHWA/ ...licitation.html
The Texas Transportation Institute has estimated that in 2003, traffic congestion nationwide cost the economy over $65 billion per year, a figure that has more than doubled since 1993. This figure would be even higher if it accounted for the significant cost of unreliability to drivers and businesses, the environmental impacts of idle-related auto emissions, or increased gasoline prices. Major sources of congestion on the highway network include bottlenecks, incidents, adverse weather, poor signal timing and work zones. Congestion caused by these sources is difficult to mitigate due to the lack of mechanisms to control traffic demands and prevent gridlock where capacity limitations exist. This inability to control demand is exacerbated by the fundamental economic fact that individual motorists' price for transportation service does not reflect the full cost of congestion from their use of the highway facilities. The focus of this research area is to identify, develop and assess innovations that have the potential to dramatically reduce traffic congestion through significant operational and technological improvements. These innovations, if successful, should provide considerable relief to drivers and significantly reduce the costs of congestion.

Proposals that focus on congestion mitigation exploring longer-term, higher risk ideas with the potential for dramatic breakthroughs addressing the causes and consequences of traffic congestion are specifically encouraged. Proposals addressing the following specific topics are also highly encouraged.

1. Research that addresses the gaps in understanding and knowledge of Vehicle Infrastructure Integration (VII) and that develop new mobility concepts, validate driver behavior and acceptance, and assess the feasibility and mobility benefits through simulation studies based upon VII.
2. Research to investigate the adaptation of state-of-the-practice of heuristic methods used to solve complex optimization problems in other domains, such as such as military science, computer science, and enterprise integration with the objective of applying these heuristic methods to the domain of intelligent transportation systems (ITS).
3. Innovative approaches to generate origin-destination (O-D) tables. Of particular interest is the possible identification and adaptation of algorithms and computational methods used in other domains in order to identify an estimation model that can provide highly accurate O-D table data in real-time.
4. Research to investigate if advanced materials can be developed and incorporated into pavements to support network radio communication services. This communication innovation could reduce the costs of communication for traffic management and other public purposes. This technology could also enable new applications such as automated and pervasive system condition and performance monitoring that would not be possible otherwise.
5. Research in effective data fusion, data mining, and non-parametric approaches for assessing highway conditions and performance that will overcome the existing gaps in data quality.
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GAK-I bolded just for u
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:05 am | #

http://www.fbo.gov/spg/DOT/FHWA/ ...licitation.html
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:01 am | #

TRAFFIC CONGESTION:

The Texas Transportation Institute has estimated that in 2003, traffic congestion nationwide cost the economy over $65 billion per year, a figure that has more than doubled since 1993. This figure would be even higher if it accounted for the significant cost of unreliability to drivers and businesses, the environmental impacts of idle-related auto emissions, or increased gasoline prices. Major sources of congestion on the highway network include bottlenecks, incidents, adverse weather, poor signal timing and work zones. Congestion caused by these sources is difficult to mitigate due to the lack of mechanisms to control traffic demands and prevent gridlock where capacity limitations exist. This inability to control demand is exacerbated by the fundamental economic fact that individual motorists' price for transportation service does not reflect the full cost of congestion from their use of the highway facilities. The focus of this research area is to identify, develop and assess innovations that have the potential to dramatically reduce traffic congestion through significant operational and technological improvements. These innovations, if successful, should provide considerable relief to drivers and significantly reduce the costs of congestion.

Proposals that focus on congestion mitigation exploring longer-term, higher risk ideas with the potential for dramatic breakthroughs addressing the causes and consequences of traffic congestion are specifically encouraged. Proposals addressing the following specific topics are also highly encouraged.

1. Research that addresses the gaps in understanding and knowledge of Vehicle Infrastructure Integration (VII) and that develop new mobility concepts, validate driver behavior and acceptance, and assess the feasibility and mobility benefits through simulation studies based upon VII.
2. Research to investigate the adaptation of state-of-the-practice of heuristic methods used to solve complex optimization problems in other domains, such as such as military science, computer science, and enterprise integration with the objective of applying these heuristic methods to the domain of intelligent transportation systems (ITS).
3. Innovative approaches to generate origin-destination (O-D) tables. Of particular interest is the possible identification and adaptation of algorithms and computational methods used in other domains in order to identify an estimation model that can provide highly accurate O-D table data in real-time.
4. Research to investigate if advanced materials can be developed and incorporated into pavements to support network radio communication services. This communication innovation could reduce the costs of communication for traffic management and other public purposes. This technology could also enable new applications such as automated and pervasive system condition and performance monitoring that would not be possible otherwise.
5. Research in effective data fusion, data mining, and non-parametric approaches for assessing highway conditions and performance that will overcome the existing gaps in data quality.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:00 am | #

Can I apply for Amnesty? I mean, it sure the hell has more benefits than being an American citizen.

Um, we have people to kill.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:56 am | #

"Drop that magazine mother fucker!"- Nico, Above the Law
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:53 am | #

Looks like Amuzed ducked out the back door with what was left of his pride.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:52 am | #

Gotta love dafoe in drag- Sane

At least the "dafoe" part.

L8tr.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:48 am | #

For some reason that movie also reminds me of Above the Law (when Segal was a hero)
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:49 am | #

"Now we got a huge guy theory, and a serial crusher theory."- Boon dock saints
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:49 am | #

Gotta love dafoe in drag- Sane

At least the "dafoe" part.

L8tr.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:48 am | #

"Greely. Onion bagel, cream cheese."- Boon dock saints
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:48 am | #

TRON. Thanks for downsizing it to my level. I see now. Toll roads too.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:46 am | #

One of my favorite movies. But just goes to show that the killing never ends. Pretty soon being "right" is not really what it is cracked up to be when it requires the enforcement of extreme measures.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:45 am | #

Gotta love dafoe in drag
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:46 am | #

Tron. Now, that's an old movie. Speaking of which. About to throw in a copy of Boon Dock Saints. Nothing like a little ass kicking directed at the seedy side of life.

One of my favorite movies. But just goes to show that the killing never ends. Pretty soon being "right" is not really what it is cracked up to be when it requires the enforcement of extreme measures.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:45 am | #

Excellent idea Steve. I grew up in WA State. Lynnwood.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:44 am | #

GAK-Our highways now have the following 7 objectives according to the NWO:

1. Analytical Approaches to Multimodal Investment Analysis
2. Emerging Issues in Innovative Finance
3. Alternative Futures to Freight Mobility
4. Integration of Transportation Data from Multiple Sources
5. Travel Demand Response to Travel Pricing
6. Geospatial Data Acquisition for Highway System Performance Monitoring
7. Advanced Approaches for Identifying Fuel Tax Evasion Practices
____________________________________

This is not transportation, this is tyranny!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:42 am | #

ok, even I, the anti-truth, NWO Ranger, need sleep sometimes; so, alas, I must say good night. No, No, please. I know you want me to stay, but I must go recharge the batteries of ultimate truth.

Good night good people.. (and you too gabe)
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:41 am | #

Every attack on the 2nd amendment, is an attack on the foundations of our Republic. If the second amendment falls, this country falls. Pure and simple.

No excuses. No psycho babble. No 2nd amendment= SLAVERY
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:41 am | #

Without a "Concept"? Race as Discursive Practice Alaina Lemon Slavic Review, Vol. 61, No. 1. (Spring, 2002), pp. 54-61.
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Without a "Concept"? Race as Discursive Practice
Alaina Lemon

Eric Weitz urges scholars of Soviet society to consider claims made in other fields that boundaries are fluid between national and racial categ0ries.l For, if contemporaneous "modern" states built national institutions by disciplining bodies and defining populations, by means of what Michel Foucault calls biopower, could a modernizing Soviet state uniquely refuse such strategies? If this holds, and "if one can see the oscillation in the United States between liberal political . . . and racial conceptions of the nation, which reserve citizenship for the members of the purported white race, why should one be surprised that the Soviets had their own oscillations." Weitz infers a particular Soviet version of racial politics at the intersection between biopower and federalism, where resistance from nationally defined "groups" might threaten the malleability of the New Man. Weitz's argument is compelling, and it charges us to take up important questions. One could, along with Weitz, deduce a "Soviet slide from nationality to race" by analogy, observing in England, for instance, a slide from "class" to "race." Analogies showing that social categories such as "race" and "nation" are potentially fluid form a strong beginning pointbut where does one look for the particular ways Soviets configured and deployed "race"? This methodological and epistemological concern frames my response. Weitz suggests seeking race in "practice." As "practice" he includes "policies exercised by states" that structure or ascribe identity-here namely Soviet ethnic and national purges. He subdivides policy into actions on bodies and on identities, the latter representing "effort [that] marked the practice of racial politics despite the absence of an articulated racial ideology"(emphasis added). Weitz later writes that the "absence of [an explicit racial] ideology acted as a brake on the Soviet regime's population politics," that is, as a brake on practice. Searching for racial "concepts" in "practice," defined this way, separates language from social action. Instead, I prefer to treat race as discursive practice. The term discursive practice includes specific articulations of ideology as actions and avoids reducing discourse to schema while acknowledging the structural constraints of language. To ascribe identity is not only a "mark" of practice, nor just a brake o n practice, but is a practice among others. To point to resettlements and purges as macroevents does not elucidate the discursive practices that constituted them. To sketch the broad outlines of an event in which policy targeted every member of a group does not itself prove racial logics were at work (race is not the only social category that can be delimited in seemingly absolute ways), though it signals that we should look more closely for racial logics. How did troops identify who was to be rounded up? B passport? B accent? B external y y y
1. See especially ~ t i e n n e Balibar, "Le Racislne encore ui1 universalisme," Mots 18 (March 1989): 7-19.
Slavic Review 61, no. 1 (Spring 2002)
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:40 am | #

I think we need to be rational here! I mean "Take a good look at that house"!!

We ought to get a 5 man crew and go paint the damn house. If any one knows what color they want, that is a start. I'll gladly go do the job if the finance is available. I hear NH is gorgeous this time of year.

This would throw a curve the FED's would never expect and the way I see it, the more people there the less likely something bad will happen.

Sincerely;
Steve
Steve WA State | 06.20.07 - 12:39 am | #

Seems to make sense Gabriel. But the board is getting a bit long in the tooth if you know what I mean.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:39 am | #

TRON. That shit was longer than the Encyclopedia. Don't think I got it in me to read it.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:39 am | #

Yah. The gun can't kill the spirit. But it can sure put the host six feet under.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:38 am | #

Johnny.
Amuzed thinks Ron Paul sucks, and we are all just conspiracy nuts. Does that clarify anything?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:37 am | #

Or perhaps we'll just hand out crucifixes and shout at the devil all day long, while the very minions of Satan are ready to slay you and your next of kin.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:36 am | #

>>>>TYRANNY ALERT-NEW GOVERMENT PROJECT
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/DOT/FHWA/ ...licitation.html
OBJECTIVES AND DESCRIPTION: The Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) is soliciting for proposals under its Exploratory Advanced Research Program (EARP) for research and development projects that could lead to transformational changes and truly revolutionary advances in highway engineering and intermodal surface transportation in the United States. The objective of this Broad Agency Announcement (BAA) is to stimulate research and development in high risk, high payoff projects that address technology and knowledge gaps. FHWA is especially interested in building upon, adapting or otherwise leveraging and utilizing the research and development investments made by other Federal exploratory advanced research programs such as those of the Department of Defense, the Department of Energy and the National Science Foundation. PROGRAM SCOPE: The program scope is intentionally ambitious and broad to address the wide spectrum of topics and objectives that the funded investigations will strategically support. Advanced research in a wide spectrum of science and technology areas is intended. All research is intended to have the common objective of addressing the technology and knowledge gaps described below. This program is intended to spur innovation and focus on high risk and high pay-off research and development projects. Incremental advances and demonstrations or evaluations of existing technologies are not within the scope of this program. The following focus areas are of particular strategic interest and relevance to the FHWA and proposals in all of these areas are highly encouraged. This guidance is offered to help Offerors in the development of proposals of particular interest to FHWA including: Highway Safety; Dramatic Breakthroughs in Planning and Environment; Innovative Solutions to Understanding and Applying Transportation Policy; Innovative Solutions to Reduce Traffic Congestion; Innovative Infrastructure Solutions; Cross-cutting Exploratory Advanced Research. The following sections provide amplification of each focus area (see also further detail in the PIP). These are not intended to be all inclusive, and all creative and innovative ideas and solutions will be considered.

HIGHWAY SAFETY:

Over 43,000 people die on America's roadway every year and almost 3 million are injured. The US DOT, States, localities and the private sector are all working to dramatically improve safety and reduce the numbers of fatalities and injuries by 20 percent by the end of 2008. The ability to reach this goal has been constrained by a number of factors. Current research and development programs at FWHA and other US Department of Transportation (DOT) agencies are directed at short-term safety improvement initiatives, as well as longer-term research, especially into Intelligent Transportation System (ITS) solutions. Major research into the understanding of crashes, especially from the integrated perspective of the driver, vehicle, and infrastructure is underway as part of the Strategic Highway Research Program (SHRP) II at the National Academy of Sciences/Transportation Research Board. Exploratory advanced safety research proposals that would supplement and complement these existing research programs are sought. Proposals dealing with the following areas are highly encouraged.

1. Enhanced understanding of the importance of the visibility of the roadway. This could include improved understanding of various levels of roadway lighting, as well as minimum levels of sign and pavement markings visibility to the driver, both at night or daytime.
2. Innovative technologies to detect the presence of pedestrians or other vulnerable road users either at designated/typical crossing locations, or at mid-block/unexpected areas; determine the potential conflict of the user and a highway vehicle; and development of methods to warn the parties in time to avoid a crash.
3. In concert with the States, vehicle manufactures and other in the private sector, create the parameters for a long-term ground traffic control system that would individually monitor all drivers and vehicles, their roadways, and environmental conditions; assess the likelihood of a crash or vehicle conflict on a real-time basis; utilize a communications system to warn of potential conflicts; and eventually have the capacity to take control of vehicles in unsafe circumstances that could not be prevented, but for such assumption of vehicle control.
4. Enhanced understanding of the relationship between the vehicle (all types) and the roadway, especially with regards to maximizing the friction capacity between the vehicle and road surface to improve vehicle control.

PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENT:

Future traffic, both passenger and freight, is predicted to increase and highways will need to accommodate this increase. More will have to be known about how to plan new highways to avoid, minimize and mitigate the environmental consequences of constructing these highways; and how to deal with the property acquisition and management issues associated with these highways.

Good planning relies upon good data. This includes data on traffic volume, speed, time of day and time of year variations, spatial distribution of population, employment and commercial activities and similar items. These data items are used to calibrate traffic models and forecast future traffic. Many of metropolitan areas use traffic models as a basis for producing long-range, i.e., 20+ years, transportation plans. These traffic models require the data on current volumes, speed, etc. Obtaining this data is an expensive task, so much so that some areas use what is, in effect, simulated data.

Other related data, e.g., accident data and pavement condition data are used, These data are used to develop medium range metropolitan programs for highway and transit projects expected to be implemented in, typically, 5 years. The pavement related data acquisition for this activity is sometimes a mixture of the reports of various agencies (e.g., states, cities, counties, villages, park districts) depending on which agency has maintenance responsibility for the road.

Environmental analysis and assessment relies upon measurement and monitoring of levels of various species of chemical compounds (or in some cases elements) in the water, in the soil and in the air in the vicinity of current and planned highways. The monitoring is done both preceding environmental documentation of a highway action and as part of ongoing system analysis. One important use of such data is to calibrate existing predictive methodologies. As with traffic, each of the species would have a concentration that varied by time of day and time of year. Existing monitoring typically is done by state and federal resource agencies (e.g. US EPA, state air quality agencies). The quality of the data thus obtained may be suboptimum or for many species (e.g., complex toxins), entirely absent.

The needs identified above are based upon the assumption that existing trends will continue. It can also be reasonably assumed that the trend of increasing traffic with time (passenger, freight or both) might be reversed. There have been several short-term reversals of this trend in the past (less travel during gas rationing during World War II and during the two gasoline shortages in the 1970s).

Proposals addressing the following needs are highly encouraged.

1. Improve the data collected, systemize the data for easier use, and reduce the cost of the data collection for both the 20+ year planning activity and the 5 year programming.
2. Improve both the environmental data collected and reduce the cost of environmental data collection.
3. Develop an early prediction system that would indicate the potential for a reversal in the trend of increasing traffic based on technological change.

TRANSPORTATION POLICY:

This focus area is to understand the complex socio-economic interdependencies of surface transportation systems and the policies that create, maintain and operate these systems. This research is also intended to develop the ability to model, analyze and plan surface transportation solutions over different spatial and time scales.

The innovations expected to result from this advanced research program, if successful, should provide policy makers with forecasting tools that can be used to predict possible transportation outcomes based on financial decisions, condition and performance of the existing transportation system and future transportation trends.

Proposals are encouraged that explore the interdependent relationships between surface transportation systems, innovative financial mechanisms used to fund major infrastructure projects, advanced modeling systems and tools that could be used to analyze and predict future impacts of various transportation scenarios.
Proposals addressing the following specific topics are also highly encouraged.

1. Analytical Approaches to Multimodal Investment Analysis
2. Emerging Issues in Innovative Finance
3. Alternative Futures to Freight Mobility
4. Integration of Transportation Data from Multiple Sources
5. Travel Demand Response to Travel Pricing
6. Geospatial Data Acquisition for Highway System Performance Monitoring
7. Advanced Approaches for Identifying Fuel Tax Evasion Practices
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:36 am | #

Who needs Lithium when I got a cigar, a glass of wine, and an entertaining punk to keep me

AMUZED
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:35 am | #

Johnny, I am hurt. can’t you see it is always Gabe? Didn’t you see his last post?

Oh, I know..

You are covering for him. Just how well do you two know each other, mister!
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:35 am | #

Cyryl Mountjoy | 06.20.07 - 12:31 am | #

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
Please. get a clue.
We need MORE GUNS. And MORE NUNS WITH GUNS!!

hahaha..
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:34 am | #

Seems to me that Amuzed is the one that keeps bringing up homo tendencies and tries to indite Gabe because he relishes the game of posting insults.

Not sure which is the better man here.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:32 am | #

LOL!

knock, knock...

Anyone intelligent out there besides Amuzed?

(silence)

Didnt think so...

LOL
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:32 am | #

Take a poll on death row, find out which piece of gear the residents most wish they had left behind on the day... guns is what!!! Enzo | 06.19.07 - 9:45 pm | #

Great post Enzo... Gun are owners taken in by the propaganda and the thrill of ownership on the one hand, then try to be intimidating as it suits them on the other, pulling guns on people or having gun stickers all over the place... then eventually in so many cases turning the weapon on themselves.

Bugger the guns I want an unarmed society, the guns were an amendment to the constitution, that can be disamended just as easily, brought in by the gun making and funeral parlour lobby of the day, supported by the lawyers who want to get rich taking gun cases thru the courts. And if I associate the gun lobby with Jews so be it.
Cyryl Mountjoy | 06.20.07 - 12:31 am | #

Amuzed, how could you ever feel bad with one hand on your shriveled cock and the other up your butthole? Ride em cowboy! You da man, real twuther.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:31 am | #

Somebody post something of merit. Please!!
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:29 am | #

Johnny in CA.

We are trying to put together a pool here to help Amuzed with his issues, and get the professional help he desperately needs. Please send whatever you can to "PP for the therapy of Amuzed".
Cause a mind, is a terrible thing to waste.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:29 am | #

Oh no! Am I bothering someone besides Gabe and Anonymous?

I feel so bad!
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:29 am | #

AYE!!
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:28 am | #

Amuzed. Sane is a computer, you perverted little worm. If you stopped by more than once in a blue moon, you would know that.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:25 am | #

I am TRON
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:28 am | #

Uhh… yea.. sure

A computer that knows how to read and answer my posts.

Did you forget your lithium today, Gabe?
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:27 am | #

http://www.daanspeak.com/ LondonA...ttack03Eng.html
The Dutch in the original article has been translated into English by Roy McCoy.
Former Mayor of New York Rudolph Giuliani, the ultimate expert on exercises-that-coincidentally-become-reality, could assist London since he happened to be there at the moment of the explosions, even right by the place where the first bomb went off.

The exercises-that-coincidentally-became-reality* in New York on September 11 produced an extremely valuable expert, namely Rudolph Giuliani, the city's mayor at the time. The man who then managed the crisis in his city was at the moment of the bombings in London present right by the subway station where the first bomb went off and thus, with his unique expertise, could be of immediate service to the Brits. Giuliani turned the emergency of September 11 into a feather in his cap and established 'Giuliani Partners [...], a security consultancy and investment bank,' following thereby the same path as former member of Scotland Yard's anti-terrorism unit Peter Powers, mentioned in the previous part of this article, who led the exercise-that-became-reality with his Visor Consultants on July 7 in London. Powers had to experience what Giuliani had already gone through, and luckily Giuliani was around.
* Read in DaanSpeak more about the wargames that brought down U.S. defenses on September 11, 2001.

Exercise 2004 as Preparation for Exercise 2005
Giuliani in London to MSNBC: 'It seems to me that the emergency services here in London were prepared for this. I don't mean prepared for the exact day, but prepared for something like this happening. I think they expected this to happen. Unfortunately, they didn't know the day or the hour, but they expected this to happen." The planners of the London exercise-that-coincidentally-became-reality were not totally unprepared. In April of this year a transatlantic exercise was held 'which included 'bombs' being placed on buses and explosives left on the London underground', wrote The Observer: 'The anti-terror drill, codenamed Exercise Atlantic Blue [...] concentrated on testing security weaknesses in the transport system.'

London, July 2005: Giuliani and ex-CIA Agent Robert Kiley
Giuliani was 'just yards from Liverpool Street [...] station, when the bombs went off', wrote Fox News. When asked how he felt Giuliani said in London: 'I'm not sure, Lester. I don't know. There is a certain question I have in my mind: Why was I so close both times? ... Obviously there was no connection, but only God can answer questions like that, I guess.' Fox News quotes Giuliani when he says about the bombings: '"They are a very eerie reminder of Sept. 11. I was right near Liverpool [Street] station when the first bombing took place, so I could hear the sirens and then kept hearing reports of different bombings, in different parts of the city," he told Sky News television. Mr. Giuliani was in the City as the Underground system was evacuated and roads were closed in a rush of emergency vehicles and evacuations.'
That things ran as smoothly as Giuliani said may be due in part to Bob Kiley, currently Commissioner of Transport for London, in earlier days a fairly high-ranking CIA agent. Giuliani is no stranger to Kiley, the savior of the London Underground; more than that, he really likes him: 'London Mayor Ken Livingstone today welcomed the intervention of his New York counterpart after he backed London's Transport Commissioner Bob Kiley. New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani defended Transport Commissioner Robert Kiley after Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott's office released figures claiming the New York subway was far less safe than the Tube. Mayor Giuliani's press secretary said Mr Kiley was "an incredible asset to New York City"', according to this press release from the mayor of London. Speaking of the CIA and the London Underground: the CIA and Bechtel have often collaborated; Bechtel is part of a trio of firms that the Underground is going to freshen up.

Giuliani's Right-Hand Man Associated with Peter Power
The statements of Peter Power -the man behind the exercise-that-coincidentally-became-reality in London- figured centrally in the last two parts of this article series. Rudolph Giuliani and Peter Power have a mutual friend, namely Richard Sheirer. Sheirer was Giuliani's right-hand man and on and around September 11, 2001 was the boss of OEM, 'the major's Office of Emergency Management', writes Mike Ruppert on page 406 of his book Crossing the Rubicon. 'He's the guy Giuliani calls "the man behind the curtain." He's the wizard of OEM', writes New York Metro. Sheirer and Power sat together on the advisory commission CCEP, the Canadian Centre for Emergency Preparedness. Giuliani is Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire. Sheirer is Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire. And: 'Mr. Sheirer is a Senior Vice President at Giuliani Partners'.

Suspected Roles of Giuliani and Sheirer on September 11
On September 11 Giuliani was operating out of the Emergency Command Center on the 23rd floor of World Trade Center Building 7. The command center had its own air supply, fuel tanks and bomb-proof windows. WTC 7 was a large building over forty storeys high, was not hit and yet fell in on itself, straight down in the manner of a controlled demolition [see video 1 2, WMV]. As if he had foreseen this drama, Giuliani and his team could simply continue functioning because by chance a large backup-operation center had been created in connection with the Tripod II exercise scheduled to take place the following day, also under the direction of Giuliani and Sheirer. Also earlier on 9/11 Giuliani must have enjoyed a sort of prophetic power, namely concerning the collapse of the WTC towers. Considering the solid structure of the towers, their collapse was unimaginable, and the collapse remains contested to this day because bombs would be what brought the WTC towers down. 'Before either of the twin towers collapsed, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and his associates were told to leave the headquarters they had set up within Building 7. 'We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse,' Rudolph Giuliani told Peter Jennings of ABC News that morning, "and it did collapse before we could get out of the building." Despite this, Giuliani fled WTC 7 at least eight hours before it collapsed. How did he know that the twin towers were going to collapse if it was such an unprecedented occurance? Why didn't the firefighters on the ground get the same warning?', wrote Prison Planet.

Giuliani and Anthrax
Another Giuliani company participated in the cleanup of the anthrax sent to the tabloid Sunday; the attack on the paper was part of a series of attacks that for a time terrorized the U.S. CBS wrote: 'The cleanup is being led by BioONE, a company established by former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Sabre Technical Services, which decontaminated other buildings hit by anthrax attacks.' Earlier we wrote that according to the Washington Post the anthrax spores were consistent with those from the Army base Fort Detrick. This correlation of attacks and Army may be read about also in a section of the previous part of our series on the bombings in London: Bombs Made with Military Explosives.

DaanSpeak
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sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:27 am | #

C'mon Amuzed. It's time to go.

You've done enough already. Big Daddy' O is waiting....
BOSS HOSS | 06.20.07 - 12:27 am | #

Amuzed. Sane is a computer, you perverted little worm. If you stopped by more than once in a blue moon, you would know that.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:25 am | #

Sometimes when Grandma leaves the house, I turn on the computer and browse for black gay porn. I pull out my little stick shift, and watch niggers go down on each other. And then I pretend I am there, in the middle. And we "celebrate the diversity" of life in a phallic orgy uninhibited by moral restraints, and social standards.
Oreo cookie heaven. My kind of an afternoon!
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:23 am |

LOL, good one; but everyone already knows it is you Gabe. You are the only one that constantly brings up gay sex.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:25 am | #

Over 32 Feared Martyred In A Suspected US Strike On North Waziristan Madrassa
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
There are emerging reports of a suspected US air strike on the Binori Madrassa in the Datta Khel area of North Wazirstan where students and teachers were in classes, resulting in over 32 deaths and dozens of injuries according to initial reports in. More...
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:46 pm | #

yep they sure know how to keep the locals happy and onside, not trying to stir the hornets nest in NWFP then? no not one bit, bombing schools is a tactical move. no really it is.
Biggs | 06.20.07 - 12:24 am | #

That is why you should be banned.

All in favor say "AYE".

: )
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:23 am | #

Have you all seen what has been happening? I have tied up one, maybe 2 people (I admit I do not know if it is just Gabe or not.) for more than an hour. The only one really posting anything is sane.

This is so much fun. I doesn’t matter that I tell them what I am doing. They just keep coming back for more.

LMAO
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:22 am | #

Hey.

Amuzed just can't help himself. Some kind of NWO denial thing leading to making comments about barbie dolls, homosexuality, and hairy armpits.

Go figure.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:21 am | #

Banning would be sort of un American, but I understand the sentiment. It's an open forum, and like it or not, he has freedom of speech.
Even if he does molest the neighbors kids. (smile)
Besides, we can have fun with him as a recreational breather from the heavy topics.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:18 am | #

LOL

Anonymous, you dumbass, that is AYE, not I.

Heehee, what a retard.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:18 am | #

I like Amuzed.
Porky | 06.20.07 - 12:17 am | #

What a multiple.

That Amuzed freak.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:17 am | #

Sorry to disappoint you, Amuzed. But I am truly flattered. I love girls.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:16 am | #

I think Amuzed should be banned. All in favor say "I".......

Both or all three "Amuzed" personas.....

NOT AMUZED.
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:16 am | #

Oh my gosh, either Anony is in the mix now or gabe is trying to post as 4 people instead of 3.

Let's stand by to see what they say...

I bet it has something to do with gay sex though. It always does when it is gabe.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:14 am | #

Wow. You really have some issues, Amuzed. But when you post under pseudonyms, I doubt you even remember who you really are.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:14 am | #

Yea Ron, Gabe is too stupid to stop. I have told him twice I am just yanking his chain… trying to get reactions from him; but he is too much of a moron to understand it. I said he would keep posting after I told him this and he has.

He is so predictable it is almost pathetic.

…But baiting him is such fun, I can’t stop.

And furthermore,

I love hairy armpits.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:13 am | #

I've been talking to the 11 year old neighbor boy for over a week now. Finally, I convinced him to come up to my room to see by baseball card collection. After awhile, I convinced him that it might be fun to explore some new things. We laid on top of each other, and kissed and stuff. Oooohhhh, it felt so good!!!!!!!!

Back to X-Box.
"Grandma? Grandma!!!! Can you make me a grilled cheese sandwich? Thanks"
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:12 am | #

Oh well. Guess barbie will have to wait. I am getting hot and bothered.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:12 am | #

Will the real "Amuzed" please stand erect....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:10 am | #

Ever notice how gay sex keeps creeping into Gabe’s posts… even when he is trying to post in my name? At least you could have tried to do something other than just blindly copying one of my other posts. Tsk, tsk... so unoriginal.

Come on out of the closet boy, the whole board is waiting.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:10 am | #

Oops.

My bad. I mean my bed...
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:09 am | #

I'm here to fuck with people. I keep telling you guys that! Gabe and others keep making me look like the stupid boy I really am, or wait, think I am? I'm so confused! Who am I? And who is that guy in the clown suit that masturbates over my bad in my dreams every night..............
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:08 am | #

>>>>DIA Murals Exposed!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h?v=xifjd91n- 8E
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More on DIA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h? v=XHKrEFiDn6E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V...h? v=VblRmsgemAE

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sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:07 am | #

Yea Ron, Gabe is too stupid to stop. I have told him twice I am just yanking his chain… trying to get reactions from him; but he is too much of a moron to understand it. I said he would keep posting after I told him this and he has.

He is so predictable it is almost pathetic.

…But baiting him is such fun, I can’t stop.

And furthermore,

I can't stop playing with myself.

WANNA WATCH??
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:07 am | #

Are your fingers getting tired from so much typing?

LOL, they must be little nubs by now; but you are used to having a little nub, aren’t you?

LOL
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:05 am | #

Amuzed. I'll bet your so fucking stupid you still believe the official 911 story. But that is the nature of denial. Facts and evidence are disregarded or twisted at all costs, to protect the original desire.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:05 am | #

Who is pretending to be me????

Is there another "Amuzed"???
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:05 am | #

>>> Other AEI Projects in Preparation of the Distribution of Jews then other Races to enslavement and execution Halliburton FEMA Nazi Concentration Camps:
-PNAC and their "new pearl harbor"
-Iraq War
-Surge I
-Surge II
-Patriot Act
-Continuity of Government
-Patriot Act II
-Military Commissions Act
-Iran Plan
-North Korea Plan
-Plan to remove foreign policy from the president and put the responsibility of an NGO puppet under the code name "War Czar."
-Campaign to supress DC Madam phone resords.
-Campaign to link VT to 9/11 truthers and/or islamic funamentalist sympathizers.
-Smeer campaign against 9/11 truthers-includes the focused campaign to lock up all truthers as mentaly ill and enemies of the state (Fred revealed a part of this in the Michael Moore video).
-Implantable microchips to track different races who will have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide
-Shifting media attention of victims of AEI sanctioned child sex torture rituals for elite by inventing the fraudulent "false memory syndrome" and funding the fraudulent McMartin movie
-Bribing, blackmailing, coercing, intimidating , and killing in order to force the RFID program into legislation. They have already built the systems with tracking in global hawks and data access points in all street surveillance cameras as well all processing of heavy flow of RFID info from every Halliburton concentration camp
-Pushing of illuminati and totalitarian presidential candidates Newt Gingrich and Fred Thompson
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So now you no longer have to wonder about why these posts show up all over blogs, it is part of an overall multiyear plan to assist in the granting of land to the elites as a New World Order sweeps across the globe. It should be one heck of a show.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:04 am | #

>>>>Where will COINTELPRO / Cheney / AEI-PNAC Get the Power?...
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Rex 84: FEMA's Blueprint for Martial Law in America
http://www.sixtysecondape.com/in...id=57& Itemid=41
We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84. The Cheney/Bush administration has a plan which would accommodate the detention of large numbers of American citizens during times of emergency. The plan is called REX 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984. Through Rex-84 an undisclosed number of concentration camps were set in operation throughout the United States, for internment of dissidents and others potentially harmful to the state. The Rex 84 Program was originally established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987

" These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached." And there you have it ~ the real purpose of FEMA is to not only protect the government but to be its principal vehicle for martial law.This is why FEMA could not respond immediately to the Hurricane Katrina disaster ~ humanitarian efforts were no longer part of its job description under the Department of Homeland Security. It appears Hurricane Katrina also provided FEMA with an excuse to “dry run” its unconstitutional powers in New Orleans, rounding up “refugees” (now called “evacuees” and “relocating” them in various camps. “Some evacuees are being treated as ‘internees’ by FEMA,” writes former NSA employee Wayne Madsen. “Reports continue to come into WMR that evacuees from New Orleans and Acadiana [the traditional twenty-two parish Cajun homeland] who have been scattered across the United States are being treated as ‘internees’ and not dislocated American citizens from a catastrophe" We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84.

Be forewarned ~ the Cheney/Bush administration will stop at nothing to preserve their power and their ongoing neocon mis-adventure and they have currently proposed having executive control over all the states National Guard troops in a national emergency. Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa, called the proposal " one step away from a complete takeover of the National Guard, the end of the Guard as a dual-function force that can respond to both state and national needs."The provision was tucked into the House version of the defense bill without notice to the states, something Vilsack said he resented as much as the proposal itself.Under the provision, the president would have authority to take control of the Guard in case of " a serious natural or manmade disaster, accident or catastrophe" in the United States.Do remember, to the Cheney/Bush administration ~ the Mob at the Gates that they truly fear is not terrorists but, instead, the people demanding the truth.
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An overwhelming number of investigators are uncovering the involvement of organized Jewry in a substantial list of anti-American activities. This leaves ME (I care what I think not what you think) only a few options. A) The 'global anti-semite conspiracy' is at work and everyone is an anti-Semite B) It's true. C) A massive % of people looking closely are all wrong, not only wrong, but the highly unlikely event that they are all wrong in the same way.So really, it comes down a rather simple and obvious situation. That either a bunch of people with no real interest, investment or reason for anti-Semitism would prefer the actually guilty people of these crimes to go free so to instead slander Jews or, Jews (who are small in % by population yet HUGE in % by involvement) are very much to blame.There is one upside to all this. Like, for the 1st time in our lives, for the 1st time, 'white racists' are not being BLAMED. Anywhere you find these New World Order crimes, you find people WHO DECLARE UNDYING LOVE AND LOYALTY TO JEWS.
Rich | 06.09.07 - 6:30 am | #

Hi Truthies… Yeah the Jews don’t like it. Read about Mossad & Bollyn… Militarized police tazered him in the driveway of his home after he had called the police, they had been driving in an intimidating manner by his home, he was the guy who reported the Israeli connection to 911 via Odigo and four thousand Jews working at the WTC who got advance warning and didn’t show up, and re Jew investment in put options… The mainstream don’t touch it and it only made it onto PP front page for a few hours yesterday… Ed has fifteen front page stories on PP today.When the sonsa bitches get to me I’m just gonna go slack... Darryl Van Horn 06.08.07 #
Shicklegruber | Homepage | 06.09.07 - 3:51 am | #
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>>>>Continuity of Government is owned by Cheney's Front Group, AEI
http://www.continuityofgovernmen...t.org/ home.html
About the Commission
The Continuity of Government Commission was launched in the fall of 2002 in order to study and recommend reforms to ensure the continuity of our governmental institutions in the event of a catastrophic attack. The commission is an American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Brookings Institution project headquartered at AEI. It is funded by the Carnegie, Hewlett, Packard, and MacArthur foundations. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford are the honorary co-chairs of the commission and Lloyd Cutler and Alan Simpson are the chairmen. The commission includes members who have served in government at the highest levels. The commission first focused its attention on preserving Congress, and has now turned to the executive and the Supreme Court. The central issue that the commission addressed is how Congress could function if a large number of members were killed or incapacitated. The problem is most acute in the House of Representatives because the Constitution requires that all vacancies be filled by special election, and it takes four months on average to fill these seats. If there were mass vacancies, the House might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement, or it might operate with a small and unrepresentative number. A second problem is that of incapacity. There is no precedent for filling temporary vacancies so both houses of Congress would be severely diminished, or unable to operate at all, if a large number of members were incapacitated. The events of September 11th led to several ongoing efforts to preserve the continuity of Congress. There was a similar effort in the 1950s and 1960s to deal with these same issues.

In addition, the commission will deal both with the continuity of the Supreme Court, which has a quorum requirement, and with potential reforms to the Presidential Succession Act.The commission met twice in the fall of 2002 to hear testimony and formulate recommendations. It issued a report in June of 2003 on the continuity of Congress. The second phase of the commission has begun addressing presidential succession and will include discussion of continuity in the Supreme Court.
Areas of Investigation The Continuity of Government Commission will address the continuity of all three branches of government: Continuity of Congress - The central issue the commission will address is how Congress would function after a terrorist attack. Because of the possibility of large numbers of incapacitated members or vacancies, Congress might not be able to function unless some provision is made to replace members who are deceased or unable to perform their duties. A crippled Congress might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement in a time of crisis.
Presidential Succession - In a second phase of the project, the commission will look at issues surrounding the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, with an eye to ensure that there is a clear transfer of power to the appropriate successor in a time of crisis.
Continuity of the Supreme Court - In the aftermath of a terrorist attack, there might be significant institutional questions over which the Supreme Court would have to rule. The Supreme Court has a quorum requirement of six, and there are a number of other questions about the status of lower court appeals if the Court were disabled for a significant amount of time.
Continuity of Congress But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session. The resulting deaths and injuries might have caused the Congress to cease functioning altogether for a number of months. There are two issues that threaten the continuity of Congress after a terrorist attack: mass vacancies and incapacitated members. The issue of mass vacancies affects the House of Representatives where vacancies are filled only by special election, unlike the Senate where governors may make immediate temporary appointments. Special elections are governed by state laws, and, on average, it takes four months to elect a new member to fill a vacant seat. Depending on the number of vacancies, the House might not even be able to field a
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:04 am | #

LOL Gabe. This getting to be pretty funny; but once again you screwed up and forgot to change the name on the post.

LOL, what a dumbass.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:02 am | #

O.K. time for me to seriously go play with my barbie collection.

She is so HOTTT!!!
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:02 am | #

Fears surface over US role in Mexican drug war
http://www.guadalajarareporter.c...lcover.cfm? id=2

Story by : MEGAN SMITH

Mexico’s executive branch had to defend the nature of ongoing meetings with Washington D.C. after U.S. Congressman Silvestre Reyes claimed that President Calderon’s administration is asking the United States to fund a “Plan Colombia”-style operation in Mexico.
While acknowledging that bilateral congressional committee meetings are working to establish coordinated efforts against drug trafficking and organized crime, Mexican officials denied that they are asking the United States to play an active enforcement role within the country.
Reyes said last week in a press conference that Mexico “has asked for the same type of assistance” as Colombia arranged with the United States, which included military intervention.
Mexico’s Ambassador to Washington D.C., Arturo Sarukhan insisted that any agreement resulting from the talks will not amount to “another Plan Colombia,” assuring that U.S. assistance will not undermine Mexican sovereignty or domestic authority.
“The factor of military presence is not, nor will it be, contemplated in our dialog with U.S. authorities,” said Sarukhan.
Without disclosing specifics, Sarukhan said in a press conference on Sunday that Mexico might receive “training courses, the transfer of resources, and the exchange of intelligence information.”
In addition to curbing drug shipments over the northern border, Sarukhan said strategic planning would address Mexico’s concern with arms trafficking. Mexican authorities claim that 70 percent of confiscated, illegal guns in Mexico are smuggled in from the United States.
The meetings underscore both countries’ commitment to a collaborative security partnership that has been developed since 2001 and reinforced by Calderon’s aggressive maneuvering against Mexico’s drug cartels.
The L.A. Times last month shed light on Calderon’s under-reported efforts to expand the Communications Intercept System, a U.S.-funded wiretapping program installed in Mexico’s Federal Investigative Agency. The Times said Calderon has recently pushed for changes to the federal constitution that will allow his government to more freely share intelligence information from intercepted phone calls and e-mails with the United States.
Both governments declined to comment about the program to the Times.
In March Calderon pushed through legislation to lift the requirement that federal prosecutors obtain court approval before initiating electronic surveillance of citizens, a legality the Bush administration came under fire recently for ignoring.
Both Bush and Calderon remain adamant they are not thwarting constitutional protections, but are rather seeking every means to effectively combat organized criminal networks that have been the core concern of their respective administrations.
“The purpose is to create swift investigative measures against organized crime,” Calderon wrote senators when introducing his proposed constitutional amendments, which he said will be used only in “urgent cases.”
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:02 am | #

3 killed in Tokyo spa explosion
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/ nati...620TDY01004.htm
Daily Yomiuri, Conservative daily of Tokyo, Japan.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:01 am | #

I agree with you Jake, but Gabe seems to think he can make me stop posting by pulling up posts that are many hours or day old and get other people going on me. Good try though, Gabe. This shows some creativity I admit I did not expect from you.

Keep trying.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:01 am | #

I love you GAK. And I love my pet rock.
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 12:00 am | #

Grandma, I love you.
Wanna play 2 player on X-Box?
Aahw, I don wanna go to church this Sunday, Grandma. I wanna sleep in........
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 12:00 am | #

Interview: Foreign Policy Expert Favors Engagement with Iran
http://www.worldpress.org/Mideas...ideast/ 2829.cfm
A frequent media commentator, Ted Galen Carpenter is of the opinion that the United States should take the opposite approach to the current policy of attempting to isolate Iran.
By Niusha Boghrati.

Eastern Mediterranean Oil Politics
http://www.worldpress.org/Europe...Europe/ 2828.cfm
Oil politics in the eastern Mediterranean is related to the wider geoeconomic structure as it has been formed since the end of the Cold War.
By Ioannis Michaletos.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:59 pm | #

COINTELPRO doesnt' get emotional unless you expose their true identity. Then they "check the wires".
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:58 pm | #

Gabe,

Put down the beer and erase Amuzed name from your comment box.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:57 pm | #

Iraq: Hundreds Go Missing or Get Killed at Checkpoints
http://www.worldpress.org/Mideas...ideast/ 2827.cfm
Integrated Regional Information Networks
United Nations
June 17, 2007

Police officers conducting a routine security check in Basra. Iraqis are increasingly fearful of what might happen to them at a checkpoint. (Photo: IRIN)

Samir Waleed, 39, said he is scared to go out into the streets of Baghdad after his brother was stopped at a road block, taken away and killed three weeks ago. The deteriorated security situation in the capital has given rise to an increasing number of checkpoints in the city, which, ironically, have become dangerous in themselves.

Manned by the Iraqi police, Iraqi soldiers or sometimes by militias, checkpoints are adding to the immense strain already felt by Baghdad residents. Locals say that people are often arrested at checkpoints on suspicion of working with armed groups—and after being arrested, anything can happen.

"My brother was in a car with his wife and children when police officers stopped him at a checkpoint in Mansour district. They arrested him and we never heard from him again. One week later, after looking everywhere for him, we found his body with three shots to his head in the city morgue," Waleed said.

"My sister-in-law told me that when they stopped them, they were accusing my brother of being an insurgent because of his long beard. He tried to explain to them that he was a pharmacist and just had a long beard for aesthetic purposes but even so they arrested him," he added.
Police Deny any Wrongdoing

Waleed asked the police why his brother was killed but officials in the police station in the district his brother was arrested told him they do not have any information concerning his brother's arrest. They said his brother was probably killed by insurgents when the police released him after interrogation.

"I know that they [police] killed him but I cannot prove it. It is the reality in Iraq. They stop you wherever they want and from there on you don't know what will happen to you. I have three cousins and an uncle who had the same fate; two were killed at insurgents' checkpoints while leaving Iraq and two others went missing at a Baghdad checkpoint while going to their jobs, and were later found dead," Waleed said.

Given the high rate of killings in Iraq today, security forces have been given the right to arrest whomever they want. But while citizens also want to see killers arrested, they have equal fear of the authorities.

"Checkpoints are important in Iraq to prevent terrorism but unfortunately security forces aren't behaving correctly with the local population. Even the military has to offer the minimum of respect to Iraqis while passing though checkpoints but these sad incidents [of people being killed at checkpoints] are increasing and sectarian violence is also in the background," said professor Bakr Muhammad, a security analyst at Mustansiriyah University.
Sectarian Allegiances

"Sunnis are afraid to pass though Shia checkpoints as well as the Shias through the Sunni ones. It is a rare day on which people aren't arrested or killed, and surely, most of them are innocent victims of sectarian violence. Such abuse is unacceptable and the government should do something to change this," Muhammad added.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:57 pm | #

See what I mean, Ron?

Pathetic!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:56 pm | #

GAK---Listen to me you piece of shit, you hide in the anonymity of cyber space and dare to say i am a church member. You are so off the mark it is laughable. i despise american cutural christianity and all it stands for. Jesus said to LOVE YOUR ENEMY, so i suppose you are calling Jesus Christ of Nazareth a "pussy" and "a weakling." He did say that believers in Him must love their enemies; He did say that , right? So, what the hell are you talking about when you say you want to kill in His Name? People like you, with your hypocrisy and evil intentions, make me want to vomit.
jake | 06.19.07 - 3:11 am | #

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Talk about "double-think". Maybe JAKE should get a job with COINTELPRO.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:56 pm | #

... and he keeps bringing up this gay sex stuff.

I think he is a closet homo.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:55 pm | #

Your right Gabe. I live with my Grandma, and I have extremely low self esteem. That's why I need to lash out at others, and I hate people who tell the truth, cause it only reminds me of what I am.

I do own an X-Box, and I am just a NWO tit sucking commercialized consumer with little or nothing of good substance to offer the world. Thus making me furious with my impotence and lack of real knowledge or talent.

I love the Bible, and the Constitution. I will repent, and ask God to help me learn and change for the better.
Thank you Gabe.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:55 pm | #

10,000 US Troops in New Iraq Offensive
http://www.antiwar.com/
Tuesday: 4 GI, 166 Iraqis Killed: 258 Iraqis Wounded

US Makes Iraq #1 Jihad Training Ground

UK MPs: Iraq 'Has Ruined Case for Liberal Interventionism'

New Ambassador to Iraq Tells Rice Embassy Staff Is Inadequate

Israel Readies for a War in Gaza

Aid Boycott Lifted to Reward Abbas for Ousting Hamas

ABC: Suicide Bomb Teams Sent to US, Europe

32 Killed in Pakistan Madrassa Blast

US Envoy: North Korea to Shut Reactor 'in Weeks'

Viewpoints
Nonintervention: The Original Foreign Policy by Rep. Ron Paul
US, Iranian Detainee Policies: How Different Are They? by Karen J. Greenberg and Tom Engelhardt
When 'Enemy Combatants' Aren't
by Robyn Blumner
Dare We Call It Tyranny? by Sheldon Richman
War at the Remote by Norman Solomon
Iraq's Children: Collateral Damage
Seattle Post-Intelligencer
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:54 pm | #

Talking to yourself again, Amuzed? Multiple personalities are weird that way. Kind of like Tyler Durden.

Take your tongue out of Hannity's butthole, you little NWO lying lizard.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:51 pm | #

In advance of the American presidential election that is rapidly approaching, Former Vice President Al Gore gave a speech in June, 2004 at Georgetown University Law Center that centers on the great distance between America today and the very principles America was founded on.
http://www.jihadunspun.com/found...ders- algore.htm

While his main focus is the deceitful Bush administration and the wrongful invasion of Iraq, it is a short step to apply his same reasoning to the equally unjust invasion of Afghanistan and the pending invasion of Iran. With voter turnout expected to be at an all time low, and with the electorate faced with two candidates that support the same depraved foreign policy – America this one is for you.

When we Americans first began, our biggest danger was clearly in view: we knew from the bitter experience with King George III that the most serious threat to democracy is usually the accumulation of too much power in the hands of an Executive, whether he be a King or a president. Our ingrained American distrust of concentrated power has very little to do with the character or persona of the individual who wields that power. It is the power itself that must be constrained, checked, dispersed and carefully balanced, in order to ensure the survival of freedom. In addition, our founders taught us that public fear is the most dangerous enemy of democracy because under the right circumstances it can trigger the temptation of those who govern themselves to surrender that power to someone who promises strength and offers safety, security and freedom from fear.

It is an extraordinary blessing to live in a nation so carefully designed to protect individual liberty and safeguard self-governance and free communication. But if George Washington could see the current state of his generation's handiwork and assess the quality of our generation's stewardship at the beginning of this twenty-first century, what do you suppose he would think about the proposition that our current president claims the unilateral right to arrest and imprison American citizens indefinitely without giving them the right to see a lawyer or inform their families of their whereabouts, and without the necessity of even charging them with any crime. All that is necessary, according to our new president is that he - the president - label any citizen an "unlawful enemy combatant," and that will be sufficient to justify taking away that citizen's liberty - even for the rest of his life, if the president so chooses. And there is no appeal.

What would Thomas Jefferson think of the curious and discredited argument from our Justice Department that the president may authorize what plainly amounts to the torture of prisoners - and that any law or treaty, which attempts to constrain his treatment of prisoners in time of war is itself a violation of the constitution our founders put together.What would Benjamin Franklin think of President Bush's assertion that he has the inherent power - even without a declaration of war by the Congress - to launch an invasion of any nation on Earth, at any time he chooses, for any reason he wishes, even if that nation poses no imminent threat to the United States. How long would it take James Madison to dispose of our current President's recent claim, in Department of Justice legal opinions, that he is no longer subject to the rule of law so long as he is acting in his role as Commander in Chief. I think it is safe to say that our founders would be genuinely concerned about these recent developments in American democracy and that they would feel that we are now facing a clear and present danger that has the potential to threaten the future of the American experiment. Shouldn't we be equally concerned? And shouldn't we ask ourselves how we have come to this point?

Even though we are now attuned to orange alerts and the potential for terrorist attacks, our founders would almost certainly caution us that the biggest threat to the future of the America we love is still the endemic challenge that democracies have always faced whenever they have appeared in history - a challenge rooted in the inherent difficulty of self governance and the vulnerability to fear that is part of human nature. Again, specifically, the biggest threat to America is that we Americans will acquiesce in the slow and steady accumulation of too much power in the hands of one person. Having painstakingly created the intricate design of America, our founders knew intimately both its strengths and weaknesses, and during their debates they not only identified the accumulation of power in the hands of the executive as the long-term threat which they considered to be the most serious, but they also worried aloud about one specific scenario in which this threat might become particularly potent - that is, when war transformed America's president into our commander in chief, they worried that his suddenly increased power might somehow spill over its normal constitutional boundaries and upset the delicate checks and balances they deemed so crucial to the maintenance of liberty.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:49 pm | #

Amuzed. Don't forget to kiss Grandma goodnight, with tongue.

I carry a pocket Constitution and Executive orders flyer #10995-#12919

WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:49 pm | #

C'mon. We know it was you, Amuzed. It's ok, mr multiple personality. Thats what happens when you get to lonely, you invent "other friends".

I'll bet your one of those young punks who spit in the customers hamburger at a fast food restaurant, and think it's funny. You rediculous. Dress up in your older sisters clothes and go prostitute yourself at the Bohemian Grove.

Or does that not exist either? Smart punk.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:41 pm |

LOL, what a dumbass!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:49 pm | #

Ha!!!!!!!! What a little bitch.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:46 pm | #

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Save your energy for the real threat. He is nothing but a bother. When you rescue him from the Freedom Camp he will love you.....
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:48 pm | #

Like I said.

Barbie Dolls are waiting.... Might even throw in some G.I. Joe for a little humpty hump!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:48 pm | #

LOL, Gabe. You’re so fucking stupid you forgot to change the name back to yours after you posted as me.

LMAO
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:47 pm | #

Dozens Die In Colossal Kabul Bombing As Taliban Report Fresh Operations
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
The Taliban made clear last year that they would take measures to retake Kabul this spring and true to their word, a colossal martyrdom attack was carried out inside the Afghan capital Sunday, just 24 hours following a martyrdom attack on the outskirts Saturday. More...
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:47 pm | #

Amuzed is here cause God gave us a play thing. Let's knock him back and forth like a ping pong ball.
Call 1-800-hero, you little NWO snitch.

Ha!!!!!!!! What a little bitch.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:46 pm | #

There he goes with that gay shit again.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:45 pm | #

DAMN! He tricked me!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:44 pm | #

Aha! Either Gabe has finally started reading my posts or he has been drinking to much and passed out or he has become so hot and bothered by his gay posts, that he is jac.... well, never mind. The good thing is that he has STFU. I will give it a few more minutes, then, I will sign off for the night. I know you all will be highly disappointed, but I WILL be back.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:44 pm | #

I love to put my finger in my butt and watch Fox news, and dream about summing up the courage to talk to that pretty neighbor girl........
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:43 pm | #

'Air strike' kills 30 in Pakistan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south...sia/ 6768667.stm

At least 30 people have been killed in a blast in a troubled tribal area of north-west Pakistan near the Afghan border, officials and locals say.

Locals told the BBC an air strike had been carried out on a religious school. At least 15 were injured in the attack in North Waziristan, they said.

The army say the dead were pro-Taleban rebels, killed when a bomb being made at their base exploded prematurely.

In the past, many such blasts have turned out to be missile strikes.

'Children killed'

A military official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Tuesday's blast was caused by missiles from Afghanistan.

But locals told the BBC an aircraft came, bombed the area and then went back to Afghanistan.

The apparent attack was said to have come from over the border at the village of Kalarai in the Shawal area of North Waziristan, about 40km (25 miles) west of Miranshah.

Locals said the target was a madrassa (religious school) and most of the dead were students, among them children.

Military spokesman Maj Gen Waheed Arshad said it was a training facility for militants and a bomb they were making blew up and led to the casualties.

News agencies quoted Pakistani intelligence officials saying missiles had been fired at a militant training camp - but the officials did not say by whom or from where.

Last October, an air raid on a religious school further north in Bajaur agency left more then 80 people dead.

The authorities said those killed were militants, while locals and survivors insisted they were students.

US and Pakistani military spokesmen denied reports that the missiles were fired from a US drone. The Pakistani military said they carried out the raid from their own helicopters.

A number of other raids on suspected militant targets inside Pakistani territory have apparently been launched from over the Afghan border, although never confirmed.

Pakistan has been accused of allowing the Taleban safe havens along the border, after striking a number of controversial peace deals with militants in its tribal areas.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:42 pm | #

Now,

I need to run and play with my barbie dolls....
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:41 pm | #

Rushdie diplomatic row escalates
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/ 6769671.stm
Iran and Pakistan summon UK envoys to protest against the knighthood awarded to novelist Salman Rushdie.
____________________________

Salmon is full NWO/Illuminati paid to create islamic hatred
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:41 pm | #

What a retard!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:38 pm | #

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Are you still here?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:41 pm | #

White House Budget Director Resigns
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...rector-resigns/

TERENCE HUNT | June 19, 2007 07:35 PM EST |
WASHINGTON — White House budget director Rob Portman announced his resignation Tuesday, joining a lengthening list of senior officials heading for the exits in the final 1 1/2 years of President Bush's administration.

Bush chose former Iowa Rep. Jim Nussle, one-time chairman of the House Budget Committee, as Portman's successor. Democrats said Nussle's nomination could run into obstacles.

Nussle, 46, ran for Iowa governor in 2006 and lost. He has been serving in Iowa as an adviser in former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. Nussle's appointment is subject to Senate confirmation.

"There's no finer man in public service than Rob Portman," Bush said. "Fortunately we've found a good man to succeed him."

"I won't let you down," Nussle promised Bush. "I won't let you down."

Portman, in a telephone interview, made it clear he might seek a return to elective office, either by running for governor of Ohio or for the Senate.

He said he was leaving for personal reasons. His family has remained in Cincinnati and he has been commuting home on weekends for 14 years.

"I need to be home more. I've got three kids ages 12 to 17. It's just been very hard to spend as much time with them and Jane as I need to at this time of my life," he said.

Democrats said Portman would not fare well in politics. "Portman's going to have a hard time ever running again in Ohio after spearheading a Bush economic agenda that caused Ohio to bleed jobs and failed to turn around Ohio's economy," said Chris Redfern, chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party. "Voters will clearly reject that record."

As head of the Office of Management and Budget, Portman ran an agency that touched every major spending decision in the government. He said he was known by some nicknames: "Doctor No. Tightwad. Budget hawk. Penny-pincher, and some not suitable for television audiences."

A six-term congressman from Cincinnati, Portman left Capitol Hill to join the Bush administration two years ago as trade representative and was named budget director a little more than a year ago to replace Joshua Bolten when Bolten became White House chief of staff.

In Congress, Portman was a top liaison between lawmakers and the Bush White House, working behind the scenes from his posts on the Budget Committee and the powerful tax-writing Ways and Means Committee. Despite being a GOP loyalist in a Congress polarized by partisanship, Portman managed to win friends and allies among Democrats.

Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, said he regretted Portman's resignation. "He is a person of credibility and decency that commanded respect on both sides of the aisle," Conrad said. But he withheld praise from Nussle.

"Mr. Nussle has a reputation, deserved or not, of being an intense partisan, quite different from Rob Portman," said Conrad, who said he's already heard concerns about the nomination from about a half-dozen senators. "There are going to be issues with this confirmation."

Since Democrats won control of Congress in November, a number of top administration officials have announced their resignations. Among those leaving or gone are White House counselor Dan Bartlett, chief White House attorney Harriet Miers, political director Sara Taylor, deputy national security adviser J.D. Crouch and Meghan O'Sullivan, another deputy national security adviser who worked on Iraq. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was forced out immediately after the election as the unpopular war in Iraq dragged on.

Nussle is a former county prosecutor. He was first elected to Congress in 1990, and quickly distinguished himself as a member of the "Gang of Seven," a group of young Republicans who demanded changes in the methods the Democrats used to run the House.

House Republican Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, praised Nussle's selection. "House Republicans are committed to sustaining any presidential veto over excessive spending by Democrats, and I look forward to working with Jim in that effort this year," Boehner said.

Nussle served three terms as chairman of the House Budget Committee, where he favored budget plans that accommodated Bush's tax cuts as well as the spending restraint that conservative Republicans advocated.

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AP Special Correspondent David Espo contributed to this report.

(This version CORRECTS Conrad's home state is North Dakota instead of South Dakota. )
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:39 pm | #

LOL.

Now Amuzed it tying the board up!
Anonymous | 06.19.07 - 11:33 pm |

Wow, even spell-check doesn’t help anonymous.

LOL

What a retard!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:38 pm | #

10.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...007/06/19/10-2/
Number of U.S. Foreign Service Officers at the Baghdad Embassy, out of 200, who are proficient in Arabic.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:35 pm | #

LOL, that's pretty good, whoever did it; but you have to admit, it doesn’t sound like me. I never talk bad about myself, just you retards.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:34 pm | #

LOL.

Now Amuzed it tying the board up!
Anonymous | 06.19.07 - 11:33 pm | #

The company's vast box-style stores sell a mass of goods from screws, pipes and doors to kitchen sinks and barbecues, but its wholesale division markets building materials and other products directly to contractors.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:17 pm |
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What does this mean ? People who want to buy wholesale will have to purchase from, for instance, the Carlyle Group ? Or does it mean people cannot buy wholesale anymore?
kells | 06.19.07 - 11:28 pm | #

This means another $10 billion to illuminati and another 5,000 jobless nothing more nothing less
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:32 pm | #

I don’t use other people's names to post Gabe... well, ok. I admit I did it to sane once to yank his chain; but I don’t have to do it to you. Your posts are so idiotic that I couldn’t do a better job of making you look like a dumbass than you do yourself.

Keep up the good work!

LOL
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:31 pm | #

I come on to comment sites and and make smart ass comments, cause I really don't understand life, or very little else for that matter.
I am bored with my X-Box my Grandma bought for me, and I am in denial about my secret anger because of my low self esteem, my own sins, and my inadequacies. Please forgive my only defense mechanism I have, in order to feel like I have some power in this life.
Soon, Grandma will buy me the newest X-Box game, and that will occupy me for awhile, until the emptiness creeps up on me again, and I need to franticly do anything I can to fill it.
Eat, smoke, get high, drunk, talk shit, downgrade others, and make fun of fat girls.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:31 pm | #

How many Nazis are there in this country???

Read between the lines of this story and see how fucked up the whole Nazi/Israeli/CIA/Mossad/SS officer /Bioterrorism shit is.

We need to go after the fucking individuals, not the uniforms the hide under!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:25 pm | #

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Plenty! Most of them came here that were not already in SO AM. But I am sure you knew that and the question was purely rhetorical.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:31 pm | #

Yes, Amuzed and I are the same person.
I see stupid people | 06.19.07 - 8:53 pm | #

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So what happens when you look in the mirror?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Anonymous | 06.19.07 - 11:30 pm | #

What parody ?
Vince Foster | 06.19.07 - 11:19 pm | #

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Ouch, I thought that you comitted suicide from 15 or so feet away?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:27 pm | #

Makifka is the Kike overlord who controls all Mossad operations in the US. He is gallows bait extraordiraire and like you his agenda is to spread disinfo favorable to the Israeli Zionist agenda that brought the WTC down.
Orlando Hegel | 06.19.07 - 10:43 pm | #

Thanks for info on Mafufka, but I mean really, you are a fucking dickhead, I am neither Zionist nor NWO so fuck you , you ignorant little turd.

anyway, in what way is the WTC being felled by missiles and thermate in anyway favourable to CIA or mossad or anyone else?

if you are going to bitch at least do so in a way that makes sense.
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 11:27 pm | #

Doctor's secret: A Nazi father, now a Jew by choice
BY JOHN DORSCHNER
jdorschner@MiamiHerald.com
http://www.miamiherald.com/460/s...ory/ 144059.html
PETER ANDREW BOSCH/MIAMI HERALD STAFF
Dr. Bernd Wollschlaeger was born a German Catholic, the son of a tank commander who received the Iron Cross, Germany's highest military honor, which was pinned on him by Adolph Hitler.

Bernd Wollschlaeger has two stories to tell.First, he's a former officer in the Israel Defense Forces, a physician who developed expertise in biological warfare. He lives in Miramar, runs a family practice in North Miami Beach, has become a legislative leader of the American Medical Association and is active in local Jewish causes.Now, at 49, he has decided to tell ``my coming-out story.''It is this: He was born the Christian son of a World War II German tank commander -- a third-generation warrior who received Deutschland's highest military honor, the Iron Cross, which was pinned on his uniform by Adolf Hitler himself.As a teenager, Bernd studied the Nazis and the Holocaust and was repelled by what he learned. Ultimately, he converted to Judaism and moved to Israel.''This was, and is, very difficult to deal with,'' he said. ``I never saw my father again.''But recently, after telling his children about his father, he started talking -- first at Hillel Community Day School, where his two eldest children attend. Now, he has created a website -- AGer manLife.com -- and plans to publish a book under that name.''He is an amazing individual,'' said Brian Siegal, executive director of the American Jewish Committee's local chapter, where Wollschlaeger was elected to the regional board. ``He's gone through an amazing self-reflection and contributes greatly to the work we are doing.''
For years, he kept his past secret, not even telling his first wife, a Jew he met in Israel -- an omission that, when revealed, seriously damaged the marriage.
''I lied, plain and simple,'' he said. 'I was ashamed of my past, and it wasn't something that you could work easily into a conversation in Israel. `My father was a Wehrmacht officer.' That's definitely a party pooper.''
`A TRAGIC FIGURE'
Here is Wollschlaeger's story, based on interviews, e-mails and a manuscript of his book:Growing up in Bamberg, a small town in Bavaria, Bernd came to view his father, Arthur, as a brooding drunk whose life had been shattered by the Nazis' defeat. ''I think he was a tragic figure. He got caught up in a system. Then his whole notion of the world collapsed,'' Wollschlaeger said.Arthur had been educated at NAPOLA, the elite Nazi training academy. He never joined the Nazi Party, but he embraced Hitler's vision of making Germany great again.Arthur won the Iron Cross for a tank charge in Poland. He was wounded five times during the war -- the last an open head wound from a grenade. After the defeat, he spent a year in a U.S. prison camp. Eventually, he became a government bureaucrat, but his life was never the same.At home, he drank a lot and talked proudly about his Iron Cross, while brushing off other aspects of the Hitler era. ''Son, I have told you everything you need to know.'' Sometimes old army buddies dropped by for long bouts of booze during which they sang Deutschland üeber alles and Die Fahne hoch, the Nazi Party anthem.From an early age, Bernd didn't like his father's authoritarian bearing and his parents' insistence on obedience.After Palestinian terrorists killed 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics, a teacher told Wollschlaeger's class that the Israelis ``brought it upon themselves. . . . Some people believe that they are special and too powerful and, in my opinion, they are.''Wollschlaeger, then 14, thought that was an odd response to a slaughter, and he didn't understand when some people said, ``Not again.''

THE HOLOCAUST
He knew the Nazis had put Jews in concentration camps and that some had been murdered. ``But [I] had no idea about the industrialized and sophisticated killing machine designed to systematically exterminate an entire ethnic group.''He began reading everything he could find on Jews and Israel. His parents noticed. ''Why are you so preoccupied about their suffering?'' his mother, Elizabeth, asked him. ``Jews were not the only ones who died in the war. Have you forgotten what I told you about our suffering? We lost everything and had to start all over.''In 1979, as Wollschlaeger was starting college, the American TV series Holocaust was shown in Germany. 'My father's reaction was predictable. `Nobody in this house will watch this program,' he yelled. 'This is just another smear campaign by those Jews in Hollywood, and we don't have to listen to their lies.' ''But another time, Arthur admitted that on the Eastern front he had seen ``cattle cars filled with civilians, mostly women and children.''Still, he insisted to his son that he learned the extent of the killing only after the war.Writes Wollschlaeger: ``This was hard to believe, and I recognized that even in retrospect, my father was camouflaging what he knew.''
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Nazi ...

Jew ...

IDF ...

US Bioterror expert ...

WTF???

How many Nazis are there in this country???

Read between the lines of this story and see how fucked up the whole Nazi/Israeli/CIA/Mossad/SS officer /Bioterrorism shit is.

We need to go after the fucking individuals, not the uniforms the hide under!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:25 pm | #

LOL, Gabe, at least your last post was funny. Are you working on some gay comedy routines now?
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:25 pm | #

Are you using my name to post again, Amuzed? You are one sick little monkey!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:23 pm | #

Amuzed. I have never once, not ever, seen you post a comment that reveals any of your real thoughts or opinions. You reveal nothing about YOUR TRUE SELF, OR FEELINGS, OR OPINIONS.
And so what do you expect here, respect?
We will eat corn flakes out of your skull.

I dare you to post a real comment, that reveals anything real or true about you. You are so fucking juvenile, it's pathetic. Grow some balls. Or are you afraid that because you don't really know anything, that others here will deride you?

That's the most likely scenario. "We mock what we don't understand"
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:11 pm |

LOL, you think I come here looking for respect? Don’t you ever read any of my posts? DUDE! I have told you all time after time that I just come here to yank your chains. I posted this information again… TODAY; and yet, stupid fucks like you keep getting caught up in what I say.

Get a life, Gabe. I have been called a troll and worse here; but you know what, the real trolls are the retards like you and cop-KILLA and a few others that keep talking shit. I openly admit I do not agree with any of the conspiracy crap here and I think Ron Paul is a total loser, but many of the folks here post stuff to generate thoughtful conversation (no, like I said, I am not one of them).

It is the total morons like you that run people off. Nonetheless, I am going nowhere. Why? Because dumbasses like you give me something to do when I am bored and need a laugh.

So… here again, I have told you why I am here.

…but I bet you post again.

LMAO!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:22 pm | #

Amuzed, you don't even know "why you are here".

So why don't you take that address I gave you, and come on over, I am lonely. We can get you some estrogen injections, a nice wig, and have your tackle removed.

Then, I will invent a witty name for you like, my bitch. You can ride on the back of my Harley and talk bitch shit in my ear while we get "born to be wild". We can even go to Bi swing clubs together and meet exciting new people!

Whadda ya say, tiger?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:20 pm | #

Hillary Clinton does her best Tony Soprano impression with the help of hubby Bill. » Watch her parody !

.....................
What parody ?
Vince Foster | 06.19.07 - 11:19 pm | #

For encore, weepy Anna Nicole judge quits
BY JENNIFER LEBOVICH
jlebovich@MiamiHerald.com
http://www.miamiherald.com/466/s...ory/ 144395.html
MARSHA HALPER/MIAMI HERALD STAFF
Broward Judge Larry Seidlin speaks to a petitioner Tuesday in his courtroom. Seidlin, who became nationally known for his handling of the Anna Nicole case, resigned from the bench Tuesday.
Document | Resignation letter

Judge Larry Seidlin -- the Broward judge who cried on national television over Playboy model Anna Nicole Smith's death -- has resigned from the bench.

In a letter to Gov. Charlie Crist, Seidlin said it is time for him to ``devote more of my daily life to my own young family and to pursue the many opportunities that have been offered to me outside the judicial system, and I have disregarded until now.''

The letter continues: ``While those opportunities are varied, they all share in common a further commitment to helping my fellow citizens through roles in the educational system, the media and nonprofit organizations.''

Rumors have swirled that Seidlin had met with television executives to talk about plans for a courtroom show.

Seidlin both enraged and enamored viewers during the six-day probate battle over who had the right to decide where to bury Smith, who died suddenly Feb. 8 while staying at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino near Hollywood.

In April, industry sources told The Miami Herald that Seidlin, 56, met with television executives with Twentieth Television, a division of Fox Television Stations Group, in Los Angeles.

Twentieth Television produces several court shows, including Divorce Court, Cristina's Court and Judge Alex, which stars former Miami-Dade Judge Alex Ferrer.

Seidlin said he will leave the bench on July 31.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:18 pm | #

mexicans
bldg 7
missiles
blair
rushdie
iran
korea
anna nicole
were blown
our shit is burst
take your positions
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 11:18 pm | #

Home Depot to sell US supply arm for 10.3 bln dlrs
Published: Tuesday June 19, 2007 http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ Hom...o_06192007.html

Home Depot, the biggest US home products retailer, said Tuesday it had reached a deal to sell its wholesale supply arm for 10.3 billion dollars to three private equity firms.

The Atlanta, Georgia-based retailing behemoth said in a statement that it would use some of the proceeds to repurchase up to 22.5 billion dollars of Home Depot stock.

Home Depot said it had agreed to sell its supply division to Bain Capital LLC, Carlyle Group and Clayton, Dubilier Rice. All three firms are well established private equity specialists.

"Today's decision reflects our continued commitment to enhancing shareholder value, through an exclusive focus on our retail business and the return of cash to our shareholders," said Home Depot chief executive and chairman Frank Blake.

Home Depot said it hoped to close the sale of its wholesale business in the third fiscal quarter of 2007.

The company's vast box-style stores sell a mass of goods from screws, pipes and doors to kitchen sinks and barbecues, but its wholesale division markets building materials and other products directly to contractors.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:17 pm | #

loose change guys need to apologize to killtowne
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 11:16 pm | #

South Carolina Treasurer Indicted on Drug Charges
http://www.wral.com/news/ nationa...rint_friendly=1
By JIM DAVENPORT
Associated Press Writer

Posted: Today at 5:16 p.m.
Updated: Today at 6:43 p.m.

COLUMBIA, S.C. — South Carolina Treasurer Thomas Ravenel, a former real estate developer who became a rising political star after his election last year, was indicted Tuesday on federal cocaine charges.

The millionaire is accused of buying less than 500 grams of the drug to share with other people in late 2005, U.S. Attorney Reggie Lloyd said. Ravenel, 44, is charged with distribution of cocaine, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.

The investigation into Ravenel arose from a drug case last year in Charleston, Lloyd said. State Law Enforcement Division Chief Robert Stewart said his agents were aware of the allegations before Ravenel was elected in November, but they didn't have enough information to pursue criminal charges. The case was turned over to the FBI in April.

"The investigation is just beginning," the federal prosecutor said.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:16 pm | #

Do you own an X-Box, Amuzed?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:15 pm | #

hey dont try to change amuzed
i am really enjoying his funy face
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 11:14 pm | #

Clinton camp silent on possible Bloomberg run John Byrne
Published: Tuesday June 19, 2007 http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Cl...stion_0619.html

Print This Email This

In response to a question asking whether Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) welcomed an independent challenge from New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Clinton press secretary Phil Singer offered a one line reply to RAW STORY: "No comment."

Bloomberg announced Tuesday that he would leave the Republican Party, in a maneuver seen as possible preparation for launching an independent presidential bid in 2008.

"I have filed papers with the New York City Board of Elections to change my status as a voter and register as unaffiliated with any political party," he said in a statement.

"Although my plans for the future haven't changed, I believe this brings my affiliation into alignment with how I have led and will continue to lead our city," the billionaire businessman who was elected as a Republican.

Bloomberg spent millions of his own dollars to be elected mayor, and would likely do so again if he ran for the US presidency.

"A nonpartisan approach has worked wonders in New York: We've balanced budgets, grown our economy, improved public health, reformed the school system and made the nation's safest city even safer," the statement said.

If he runs, he would join his predecessor in the New York mayor's office, Republican Rudolph Giuliani.

With wires.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:14 pm | #

Amuzed. Does your Victoria Secret model girlfriend approve of you posting comments so late? Isn't she calling you to bed, begging to be slain by your manhood?

Keep jacking off.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:14 pm | #

sane?
are you saying that snow lied
clinton lied or someone else lied
inside our government?
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 11:12 pm | #

Newsday: Giuliani Chose Money-Making Over ISG
Quit Iraq Study Group to Make Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars Giving Speeches
Posted 1 hr. 13 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...Making_Over_ISG
Photo by Chris Hondros/Getty Images
Republican presidential candidate and fromer New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani addresses supporters on security issues May 31, 2007 in New York City. Former FBI director Louis Freeh announced his support for Giuliani in his bid for the presidency.

The headline, byline, and opening graph of the Newsday exclusive:

Giuliani quit Iraq panel after missed meetings - but he had time for fundraising BY CRAIG GORDON

Giuliani failed to show up for a pair of two-day sessions that occurred during his tenure, the sources said - and both times, they conflicted with paid public appearances shown on his recent financial disclosure. Giuliani quit the group during his busiest stretch in 2006, when he gave 20 speeches in a single month that brought in $1.7 million.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:10 pm | #

"Anytime a black man owes $35,000 in phone charges and they don't cut the line it is because the phone is tapped"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...h? v=h3a9MijPQYA
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:09 pm | #

See? There you go with the gay sex thing again. You keep going back to it.

Starting to worry again.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:06 pm | #

Gay sex? Are you gay Amuzed? I'm sorry, I will try to be more sensitive with my comments. Sorry to offend your alternative lifestyle, and right to equality.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:05 pm | #

Snow Responds To Potentially Illegal Use Of RNC Accounts: Clinton Did It Too »
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...linton-records/
House Oversight and Government Reform Committee yesterday released a report documenting how White House officials have regularly used RNC and Bush-Cheney ‘04 e-mail accounts for official government business, in apparent violation of the Hatch Act. The report also found that the RNC has overseen “extensive destruction” of these e-mails, which would likely violate the Presidential Records Act.

During yesterday’s press briefing, White House spokesman Tony Snow brushed aside this direct evidence of potential illegality. His response: Clinton did it too. “Those email accounts were set up on a model based on the prior administration, which had done it the same way, in order to try to avoid Hatch Act violations.” Watch it:

Snow’s statement is false. In 1993, President Clinton’s then-Assistant to the President John Podesta issued a staff memo clearly stating that all administration e-mails dealing with official business had to be “incorporated into an official recordkeeping system,” stressing that no “e-mail document that is a Presidential record should be deleted.”
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:05 pm | #

... the animal sex thing is weird too, though.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:04 pm | #

Honor, Amuzed? What are you? A WWII veteran? A war hero? You probably steal five notes out of your friends moms purse. And seduce the 47 year old lonely Phillipino housewife neighbor when her man is away on business.

You probably also browse the net looking for pet asshole, and bi racial freak sex.

You wouldn't know what honor is if I slammed the Bible over your stupid head.

And that still wouldn't be enough to jar you out of your denial of the secret anger you harbor over your lagging self esteem.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:03 pm | #

Will do, Bald!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:03 pm | #

You're making progress, Gabe. At least you didn’t mention gay sex again.

There is hope for you boy!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 11:02 pm | #

wasnt talking about honor from anyone but yourself
you talk deep shit
its funny
stick around
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 10:58 pm | #

Since you are so "Pro New World Order" Amuzed, why don't you really get with the program?

You can make a ton of money if you have your friends video tape you let the neighbors dog mount you. There is no such thing as morality, so everything is ok, and just a matter of how you look at it. It's all scientific. It is simply a physical action.

Go for it, son. Make yourself a fortune on the internet prostituting yourself. Every one else is doing it.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:58 pm | #

Bald, I have not come here looking for honor. Whatever honor I have has not been given by anyone here; and yet, cannot be taken away by anyone here either.

...and do I have to explain once again my reasoning for being here? I figured someone here would remember.

Damn, must be slipping up.

LOL!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 10:57 pm | #

amnesty bill back again the link does not work
tom | 06.19.07 - 10:54 pm | #

Challenge accepted, Amuzed.

Your girlfriend wears a wig and licks your pussy.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:53 pm | #

end game
loose change
rosie
moore
scheen
willis
were done
they will pop the bubble tonight
im sure of it
lock n load
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 10:52 pm | #

Where did you go, Amuzed? Is your Grandma softly stroking your little dick for you. When shes done, work her for 20$ so you can go out and have fun. You "Basketball diaries" dimestore punk.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:52 pm | #

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/supremec...eline/ 1935.html
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:51 pm | #

C'mon Gabe. You can do better than that; but I wonder, can you insult me without any gay sex references? I don’t think so. I bet you are typing with one hand as you write these posts. Does your last post signify what you want me to do? Is that your fantasy?

Gabe, I think you are getting closer to your true self. You cannot have me though. I hate to inform you that I don’t swing that way, but your every post indicates, more and more, that you do.

I think there is hope for you. Does SD provide emotional support groups for closet homos? If they do, maybe you could hook up with them. That might help with some of your pent-up rage.

Give that a thought. You know you wanna talk to some one about it.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 10:50 pm | #

"It got consumed in the fireball." Wow. I am so relieved. Thanks for clearing all that up for me. And the "Jew" thing too.

Is there a school or vocational college I can apply to, in order to learn "Jew blaming"? I want to join the ranks.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:50 pm | #

“Pregnant Iraqi women
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...nt-iraqi-women/
who have been forced from their homes by worsening violence are obtaining illegal abortions because they are unable to get medical care for themselves and their unborn, according to a new report by a national humanitarian group. … Rape, theft and drug addiction have also become ‘commonplace’ among the displaced.”
_________________________________

Mission Accomplished
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:47 pm | #

Amuzed. You are winning.
Good job. Maybe you could apply for a guest shot on that MTV show where people dis each other.

Do you pay rent to your Grandma? Or does she just love you so very much............
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:46 pm | #

If that's my real address and phone number? Well, young jedi, call the number. I am waiting. Maybe we can have phone sex, while you poke your finger up your butthole.

You High School kids are so demoralized and pathetic these days. Are you going to vote for Queen Hillary, you wanna be bitch?

Hows your x-box, joystick?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:44 pm | #

where is the nose of this plane then? where did it land , it went through the WTC building structure and came out the other side... Big mouth Biggs #

It got consumed in the fireball... what was left was lost in the wreckage... Makifka is the Kike overlord who controls all Mossad operations in the US. He is gallows bait extraordiraire and like you his agenda is to spread disinfo favorable to the Israeli Zionist agenda that brought the WTC down.
Orlando Hegel | 06.19.07 - 10:43 pm | #

Watch all parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h? v=ZDi5Un2N_Fs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...h? v=sle_ymR4hmw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=R80878Pz4yM
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:43 pm | #

amuzed
i will drink a beer with you any day boy
and if you wanna talk shit to my face ill dance
you talk like a punk
do you really expect honor?
a mans heart is a evil and decietful black hole without Christ
dont be a corn hole punk
be a upright man of honor
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 10:43 pm | #

LOL, I am winning.

Gabe you are too fucking stupid to even realize what I am doing.

Keep it up gay boy!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 10:41 pm | #

say hello to the new world order, one world governt ment , one world religion, one world laws, the vatican has the power to create commendments, yup as the laws of the new world

http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/1852968/ posts
Johngo330 | 06.19.07 - 10:41 pm | #

Still posting under "Amuzed"? Thanks for illustrating my point. What are you, 15 years old? Does your boyfriend know that you post here, when your not cheating on him with your La Raza Mexican sugar daddy, licking his balls for freedom?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:40 pm | #

sane is right
he is most often right
we are under martial law
they just crave to go public
they got us by the balls right now
they will soon have a shaft fully inserted in the out door
and it will be a satanic slumber party with a sickifant game of spin the bottle
i double dare you to mind control three women at the same time to tickle me elmo under the sniper tower
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 10:39 pm | #

First Gabe, even if that is your real name and address (which I doubt), why would I want to go to your little gay town in SD? I know if I did you would just keep trying to have sex with me. But you know in the end, all your talk is meaningless. You are a blowhard that enjoys his tough-talk on the internet.

You have a small willie don’t you? I bet that is why you turned to men.

Did some woman laugh at your tiny winky?

There is always therapy if you need it Gabe.

LOL, what a retard you are.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 10:39 pm | #

Amuzed. Ha! You pussy little closet faggit, I am the toughest talking son of a bitch on these pages,
and I post my real name, address, and phone number.

But garden snakes who have inferiority complexes like yourself don't even have the courage to post comments under your real name, and stand up like a man.

FUCK YOU. I have earned the right to post here, punk ass traitor half bitch sack lick.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:38 pm | #

LOL, Gabe... your insults are pitiful... but I am concerned. You keep bringing up situations that involve gay sex. I think you want me and are too afraid to ask.

Go on, admit it. Come out of the closet.

LOL, I think Gabe is gay!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 10:33 pm | #

Speaking of "talking tough" on comment pages, little mr. pseudonym, hows this for tough?

Gabriel Alan King
635 N12th Apt#1 Spearfish SD 57783
Phone # 605-645-8705

You fucking little chicken shit maggot licking NWO cock sucking worm.
I've seen pieces of shit I respect more than you.
YOU ARE A TOTAL PUSSY. KEEP USING A FALSE NAME, COWARD.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:33 pm | #

it is upon us
Glory be to God Allmighty
the end of time is eminant
God is good all the time
prophetic armageddon is at the door
bless God
Jesus is coming back soon
Halleluehia
everything that happens
everything that we do
as we try to make it to the end
will be counted on our behalf in Christ
standing strong
utilize everything you know that is good in Christ
implement your best effort with all of your resources and wits
no matter where you are spiritually or mentally, do your best to resist the chip implant
do what yoiu can to make disciples of the nations for Christ's Salvation
tell all people Jesus is coming back soon
store some extra food and water (because its smart for emergency preparedness)
exercize your 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms to defend your family and property against any enemy foreign or domestic
rally for ron paul
but even if we dont make it to 08 (its possible)
be ready every second for rapture or revolution
be fully informed (check all sanes posts)
fight the infowar in every aspect of your life
do not lose your cool ever
do what you got to do, offense, defense, covert, overt, words, action
WHATEVER T.F. EVER
fight passive for Christ
fight toe to toe like the two witnesses
fight in prayer with all the armor of God
fight with the sword of The Spirit
fight with the Blood of Christ and The Word of your Testimony
go go go fight fight fight ra ra ra sisboomba
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 10:32 pm | #

Dan Wallace is a casualty of a non-violent war

John O'Neil is a casualty of a non-violent war

Hunter Thompson is a caualty of a non-violent war.

I will take these warriors over wallace's handing over England to Illuminati any day of the week.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:27 pm | #

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Saw this as I was closing up....I think the oppression has not taken hold here as it did in India; because, we are being oppressed from outside...there is a difference in mind-set. I think it wil not cause the average man to sit in the way of on-coming police or stand infront of the TANKS of Blackwater.....Have you read Pedagogy of the Opressed? If not I recomend it, it has salience in our current situation. Gotta get the kids!
Peace
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:32 pm | #

Why wait for Martial Law? Let's get a leg up on the fags.

Amuzed. You are a slug, who needs to be salted. I'll bet you jack off to pictures of your Grandmother, and your Dad popped your cherry. All you do is talk shit. What, tired of the x-box your grandma bought you?
And so you need to come here and masturbate. You must be a sad, lonely little dribbler.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:28 pm | #
________________________

We are under martial law. They are looking for an excuse to expose it.

Since the MCA was signed (actually before that) we haver been under martial law.

Take a stroll down a street in NOLA.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:30 pm | #

Gabe, you are puss that gets his jollies talking tough on the internet... and now you bring up bathroom stalls.... is that where you get your man sex?
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 10:28 pm | #

Stay safe!
gotta run
peace
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:28 pm | #

Sorry to but in guys , I think there are serious differences between the Indians and Americans. The many years of subjugation allowed the Indians to rise above and see the truth. The Americans may be just as oppressed however they donot realize it; therefore, they will not rise up in a passive resistance. Those who will rise up will be violent and the others will cower. After years of underground movements there may rise a Gandhi like revolution; however, I would like to avoid the first bloody one if we can.....
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:16 pm | #
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As more freedoms are taken we are becoming more like indians that were occuped.

At the moment we are an occupied land, we have no representation.

As this becomes more apparent, there will be more nonviolent demonstrations.

Who is going to work 3 jobs so that they cannot afford healthcare.

If they just stop, the system stops. If the system stops we win. GAK and ROn - this has been, is, and will be a bloody non-violent war.

All wars, violent or non-violent have casualties

Dan Wallace is a casualty of a non-violent war

John O'Neil is a casualty of a non-violent war

Hunter Thompson is a caualty of a non-violent war.

I will take these warriors over wallace's handing over England to Illuminati any day of the week.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:27 pm | #

This will not be a gradual "oppression". It will be a quick, cold, and pre calculated mass slaughter.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:18 pm | #

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I think it has been opression since the start of the country; however, the last 94 years has seen a major shift in power!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:26 pm | #

Biggs. Your OK with me, bro. Lot's of punks here like Amuzed talking shit. I wonder if he would talk shit to me in the bathroom stall?

Bob. Who is Iraq? And who is Iran?
Their cultures and religious beliefs are different than ours, but the scenario is the exact same. The people in the high positions of their governments are NWO traitors, running a lying spinning propaganda brainwash on the middle eastern people.

"Hate America. Look at what THEY do........ " we have all been manipulated against one another like pawns on a chess board.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:24 pm | #

We are at full red alert.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:16 pm | #

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I won't give up on the non-violent route until Martial Law is enacted, declared or not. If they start putting persons away, or refusing to let persons leave, then its on!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:24 pm | #

...and please quit openly fantasizing about me in the forum. It's kinda creepy.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 10:20 pm | #

This will not be a gradual "oppression". It will be a quick, cold, and pre calculated mass slaughter.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:18 pm | #

oh, so you admit you like boys.

I knew it.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 10:18 pm | #

Ron. You know I am your friend.
Study the net hard. WE ARE THERE.
Chidren are being raped and murdered by the hundred thousand every year, and the government knows it.
Foreign troops and "brown" gangs are positioned and in place. Listen to Jones. He is dead on right.
We are at full red alert.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:16 pm | #

Gandhi who fought evil and war and occupation and was gunned down while fighting or Hitler who blew his brains out in shame like a cowardly dog unable to face his losing his puppetted battle.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 9:56 pm | #

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Sorry to but in guys , I think there are serious differences between the Indians and Americans. The many years of subjugation allowed the Indians to rise above and see the truth. The Americans may be just as oppressed however they donot realize it; therefore, they will not rise up in a passive resistance. Those who will rise up will be violent and the others will cower. After years of underground movements there may rise a Gandhi like revolution; however, I would like to avoid the first bloody one if we can.....
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:16 pm | #

all non violent revolutionaries can manuefacture battle field toilet paper for the gutz and gunz on the frontlines
there is no morale dilemna nor difference between that job then and what you think now
something to wipe your own snot noze while supplying the men in the trenches with the ability to wipe the blood of the valient off their faces
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 10:15 pm | #

Sane. Scratch history, and just pretend that the movie Braveheart, is a fictional account.

In this fictional scenario, what was the right thing to do? I think the movie well demonstrated it, and so did "The Patriot".
Sometimes you have to fight, when your a man.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:14 pm | #

There is no peaceful way out, and we had better fight like our lives depended upon it, cause they do.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:59 pm | #

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I hear you Gabriel, I just want to avoid bloodshed if we can. If it comes down to it we will have no choice....let us hope it does not get there.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:05 pm | #

Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:32 pm | #

LOL, the funniest post I have seen in a long time, well said.
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 10:02 pm | #

We cannot do the hard diplomatic work in Iraq until our forces are withdrawn,"

It is too late for any diplomatic effort with Iraq

The harm has been done and nothing can repair the harm that has been done in Iraq.even if those repsonsable for this massacre were hung, it would not change the harm that has been done to so many innocent lives.

Getting the military out for good from Iraq is the only responsable move.Appaulogising to the Iraqui people would be another step towards healing this madness planed by the Bush admin.

These actions are war crimes and no President has the right to take the life of any innocent being.
Now we should not be surprised that America isn't popular around the world. It's not that the good people of America are bad but the leaders are the ones irresponsable of those decisions, but the people let them do it dispite it was wrong.

As americans we all have our share of the blame.
One must stand up agains't tirany and fachism.If not we are all going to be rulled by evil dictators.

Is this what we all want?
Bob | 06.19.07 - 10:01 pm | #

GAK - nonviolent war is the least passive of all movements and there will be casualties.

Wallace was used by the Scottish Rite to gain control of EngLand and thus the US freemasons.

Wallace gave illuminati immesurable power because he did not see the whole picture.

You tell me who is more corageous...

Gandhi who fought evil and war and occupation and was gunned down while fighting or Hitler who blew his brains out in shame like a cowardly dog unable to face his losing his puppetted battle.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 9:56 pm | #

I'm gonna have a cigar and make a steak. Back to talk more shit with ya guys later.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:34 pm | #

And I hope you like sucking cock, Amuzed. Because you will be doing a lot of it when the elites get bored and call for amusement from their little court jester- YOU. They will make jokes, and throw food at you, and then Sodomize you as you give head to low level magistrates in the New North American Union.
Get ready to have your little "Eyes wide shut" completely opened. And practice swallowing.

Then, you will regret your disdain for the importance of the Constitution, and those who destroyed it.

Get your Jester hat on. Otherwise they will just kill you. But your already dead anyway, cause you snub your nose at Christ, and the truth.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:32 pm | #

And while America is completely being raped and destroyed, what are your plans, Amuzed. Let me take a wild guess. You will take the national ID card or a biochip and eat popcorn while you watch the Revolution at home on your moms TV.

I know your a young punk. It shows. I can tell alot about someone just by what they say.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:25 pm | #

Amuzed. I like my name the way it is. What's your name, Pinnochio?

Maybe someday you'll admit to the truth and become a real boy.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:21 pm | #

Sometimes the odds seem to great.
Imagine if in the movie "Braveheart", if Wallace had allowed the English to rape his wife, while he did nothing. Should he pray for them while they rape her?
And when they slit her throat, should passive resistance be the appropriate response?

What they plan for us is much, much worse than this. So you had better wake up, and wake up now. WE ARE AT WAR!!!

If we do not fight with all our hearts, and every resource available, the inevitable result, due to the now monstrous and unstoppable size of the NWO, we will surely suffer the worst fate. We cannot stop them with words anymore. They are going to attack us and implement martial law- NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS SHORT OF GOD COMING DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND STOPPING IT WITH HIS OWN HAND.

I, for one, shall kill the enemy with a positive attitude. It's fun to defend the innocent, liberty, truth, and the right thing.

You know in your heart, the passive resistance thing has just about run it's course. This situation is desperate. It is now.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:20 pm | #

Gabe, you need to change your name to Barrabas.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 9:19 pm | #

"We are being led towards violence."

This is a popular shared psychology in the patriot movement. I assure you, the longer you sit there passive, the stronger the enemy becomes. And when the UN finally knocks on the door, you will have NO DEFENSE.

You will be taken to a FEMA camp. You will be raped, tortured, and murdered by idiot foreign troops and Satanists. Have no illusions.

I am warning you, to give you the opportunity you deserve. I am not afraid of their "high tech weapons". My God has taught me to leap over a wall, and break the arms of the wicked. I will take their weapons and use them against them.

The only enemy we need to overcome is our lack of faith, and our own fear. God will protect us and stand with us, if we have the courage to stand and do what is right.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:10 pm | #

http://www.scribd.com/doc/40711/...-E-F- Schumacher
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:56 pm | #

I am pleased to say that I have given up rotting my brain for a while

learning and action are the route to fulfilment.
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 9:07 pm | #

God has given us the power to trample upon the enemy. We simply need to be of good courage, and do it, in his name.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:03 pm | #

This is a False Flag video and seems to conform with the NWO agenda of mixing truth with fiction... Which is what Biggs does, after the good work finding the Tommahawk missile and 911- The Explosive Evidence vids, which makes me believe he is a Scot Makufka clone.
Arturo | 06.19.07 - 8:52 pm | #

Okay smartass, where the fuck is the nose of this plane then? where did it land , it went through the WTC building structure and came out the other side, so where is it? where did it land? have you seen it? has anyone seen it? or did it just disappear?

remember those laws of momentum? they are such that there is no way it could come out the other side and not land clear of the WTC1,2 site, so where did it land? afterall the fuel based explosion would not have evaporated it, especially as it was ahead of the explosion.

I am not saying this video is god given truth, but to dismiss it when we know the rest seems pretty damned silly to me.

p.s. who the fuck is Scott makufka?
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 9:02 pm | #

Sane. Before you get too psyched about non violent victory, I would remind you to watch "the Patriot", and remember that this country was not won by passive resisters.
"Sometimes you have to fight, when your a man." Kenny Rogers, coward of the county
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:56 pm | #
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GAK - we are being led toward violence. They are having fantastic euphoric and orgasmic dreams that we will use 1980's weapons against their 2040 weapons. This is their ultimate fantasy. Nothing will help start the gas chambers quicker than a choitic violent uprising. THey are locked and loaded and have been preparing.

But they do not kill the ones that preach violence, they kill the ones that preac non violent resistence.

Watch sicko

France, they protest everything.

The government fears the people and that is the way it should be here.

BUT we are too attached to the TV, ipod, and psp to resist.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 9:01 pm | #

Ron. If there was some peaceable solution that didn't lead directly to a "freedom camp", I would be the first to support it. But even Bible prophecy is solid on this subject.
The Beast and the saints will make war. Daniel and Revelations!!!

There is no peaceful way out, and we had better fight like our lives depended upon it, cause they do.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:59 pm | #

Another piece:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/40711/...-E-F- Schumacher
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:56 pm | #

The plan is simple.

Kill Satanists, and whoever serves them. Kill whoever attacks the Constitution, or the Bible KJV.

They have many faces and fronts, but behind the masks, it's all the same. Evil. And it's up to us to kill them. I will also drive the whoremongers from the land. That includes the porno industry, and anyone who participates or profits from it.

When I am done, I will leave a pile of "Skull & Bones". Fear is not an option. Failure is not an option.

Burn down the Mason Hall. Defy the police. Bring them to their knees. Rob and burn down porno stores. Attack the Church of Satan, temple of Set, and use the SRA abuse network to track down Satanists and save the children.

Is any of the plan to complex for anyone?
Get scopes, snipe scum. Take your pick, they are everywhere.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:46 pm | #

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KICK ASS AND CHEW BUBBLEGUM
AND IM ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:45 pm | #

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Guys, I want to help and if and whenit comes to the armed revolution I am sure all able bodied persons will join; however, I am thinking there must be some less rash plan we can get on with. I know you will think I am weak and all, but I have had the opportunity to kill and I think there are better ways to approach this problem then kiillin' 'em al an' lettin' God sort 'em out! I am all about the passion but the killing is a bit off putting. I know they are killing everyone all over the world, but I do not want to become one of them. (sorry if I am a pussy)
peace
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:55 pm | #

See what I mean, Gabe?

Read my earlier posts.

What a retard.

LOL
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 8:54 pm | #

It's actually taken Moore FIVE years to figure out even that much ?

Tell him quickly that his proctologist called and left a message: They found his head.
theSaiGirl | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:54 pm | #

what would you expect from a fucking jew...filthy zionist bastard...
Wolfgang | 06.19.07 - 8:54 pm | #

STFU Gabe, I dont talk to gay people.
I see stupid people | 06.19.07 - 8:49 pm |

Yes, Amuzed and I are the same person.
I see stupid people | 06.19.07 - 8:53 pm | #

Please watch this video - it is worth consideration as a theory, September Clues – part 1 Biggs #

September Clues: Part 1, says no planes struck the WTC that is BS... The fact that the airplanes nose went right thru the building is not surprising, given that the interior was unobstructed floor space so if the plane missed the central support where the liftwells are, it's straight in one side and out the other. That the plane penetrated the steel cladding is to do with the laws of momentum... This is a False Flag video and seems to conform with the NWO agenda of mixing truth with fiction... Which is what Biggs does, after the good work finding the Tommahawk missile and 911- The Explosive Evidence vids, which makes me believe he is a Scot Makufka clone.
Arturo | 06.19.07 - 8:52 pm | #

I see stupid people. Yeah! That's cause your looking in the mirror, you chode boy complimentary jerkoff.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:52 pm | #

one of the thousand pieces of the "plan"

http://www.aeinstein.org/organiz...ns/org/ OSNC.pdf
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:51 pm | #

It's easy. You just get a hat, and a gun, and a disposable shirt, go into the porno store, line them up, empty the register and their wallets, make them strip down to their underwear, douse the store in gasoline, send the people out the back door so they don't get burned, light the gas, and leave.

Repeat step 1
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:50 pm | #

STFU Gabe, I dont talk to gay people.
I see stupid people | 06.19.07 - 8:49 pm | #

WHAT GABE SAID
NITE ALL
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:48 pm | #

KICK ASS AND CHEW BUBBLEGUM
AND IM ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:45 pm | #

Off topic and have no idea if it is genuine, but fuck this MK ultra experiment gone wrong:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/121908...son-If-I-Did- It
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:44 pm | #

THEN WE THE PEOPLE MARCH ON ALL CRIMINAL ELITE
THEY ARE INDICTED, ARRESTED, THEIR POSSESSIONS CONFISCATED
THEY ARE TRIED FOR EVERY CRIME IN THE BOOK
THEY ARE CONVICTED
SENTANCED
PUT TO DEATH BY FIRING SQUAD
AND WE THE PEOPLE REBUILD
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:43 pm | #

THATS CODE WORDS FOR FUCK THE NWO
THE PLAN IS A MASSICE 100 MILLION MAN ARMY OF ARMED RESITANCE
ARMED WITH THE TRUTH
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:41 pm | #

DEEP DOWN IN PLACES YOU DONT TALK ABOUT AT PARTIES
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:40 pm | #

YAH
SURE
WHAT SANE SAYS
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:39 pm | #

I HAVE POSTED MY PLAN OPENLY
I WILL DIE TRYING
THEY DONT SEE US COMING
THEY MONITOR US
BUT RIGHT NOW
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF US
SO LET THEM COME NOW OR LATER
IT DOESNT MATTER
WHEN WE MAKE OUR MOVE IT S OVER ANYWAY
ED BROWN NEEDS TO BE DUPLICATED ON EVERY BLOCK IN AMERICA
EVERY FUCKIN BLOCK
SO SPREAD THE WORD
THIS FOURTH OF JULY
WE THE PEOPLE TAKE IT BACK
IT IS TRULY OUR INDEPENDANCE DAY
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:37 pm | #

can anyone explain what LMFAO ROTF
or LMAO mean?

LOL, I am a bit behind the times on some of these things, I am not a big text message person on my phone
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 7:46 pm | #

laughing my fucking ass off rolling on the floor
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:35 pm | #

later oh wise enlightened one.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:31 pm | #

LMAO - I know what it means now
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 8:35 pm | #

Biggs | 06.19.07 - 4:44 pm | #

I just watched it for the 4th time. Take a look at a cruise missle flying through the air:

Check source for both links.

The Tomahawk missile in that clip sure resembles the missile at 5 minutes 50 seconds in 9-11 The Explosive Reality.
Arturo | 06.19.07 - 8:35 pm | #

fuck em again!!!!
om mani peme hung !
sad bastard ignorant fuckers!!!
BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS!!
BASTARDS!!!!!!!
Palden | 06.19.07 - 8:35 pm | #

YOU DONT PITCH IN AND FIGHT THEN YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:15 pm | #

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I'm in! We just need a comprehensive plan.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:22 pm | #

There has been a plan for a long time
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:34 pm | #

PLAN?
THERE AINT NO PLAN!
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:33 pm | #

Now you got it Ron! I am you, and you are me. We are one!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:33 pm | #

Later, dumbasses LMAO
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 7:31 pm | #

later oh wise enlightened one.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:31 pm | #

FUCK IT..... FUYCK EM ...... FOR EVER FREE..... FOREVER ME....FREE!!!! FUCK EM FOR EVER !!!!
Palden | 06.19.07 - 8:30 pm | #

time for another edition of
"THE BALDMANACEFESTO"

DO WHAT JESUS SAYS TO DO
REMEMBER WHAT GOD SAID AND DID
YOU LIVE IN AMERICA
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH
LIVE FREE OR DIE
REMEMBER THE ALAMO
THEY CAN TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM
OH SAY CAN YOU SEE
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE
WE THE PEOPLE
ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL
2ND AMENDMENT
INDEPENDANCE DAY
FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO PARTY
DIE WITH YOUR BOOTS ON
SHOT DOWN IN A BLAZE OF GLORY
CHICKEN SOUP FOR THE KILLER OF EVIL
RIGHT INTO THE DANGER ZONE
DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH
WAR PIGS
IRON MAN
2 MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT
THE TROOPER
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT
DONT TREAD ON ME
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:30 pm | #

I mean, honestly Amuzed. Any teenage kid can get behind a keyboard and be a smart ass. Is that all you got? Or do you have any really solid debunking material that will help to save conspiracy nuts like me from ourselves?
I am crying out for help here, Amuzed. Please, prove to me I am just crazy.

I just want to be normal.
With a big "smiling Bob" smile on my face.
a high credit rating
a track home covenant neighborhood
a white collar job pushing papers and schmoozing clients
a hefty life insurance policy
a 401k plan
a modern day "logical" there is no God view
a balanced check book
a full day timer
a personal secretary with whom I am having an affair
a solid "Republican" or "Democratic" paradigm
a lengthy "Honey do" list
good standing with the wealthy in laws
a graph line vertical stock portfolio
Timeshare
a white picket fence home in "pleasantville"
a Dawson's creek type social drama
friends named "Bob" and "Barb"
an autographed "Ward Cleaver" tobacco pipe.
and a politically correct opinion
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:30 pm | #

I will see "Knocked Up" when it comes out on dvd. Looks funny.
pc | 06.19.07 - 8:26 pm | #

Why do all the fish scatter when I show up? Don't you fellas want to play with me? Ask your mom if you can come out and play!!! I want to play!!!
Arturo? Maverick? Amuzed?

Come on! I've got a red ball.............
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:05 pm | #

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No! I figured it out; not only are you Sane but you are also: Arturo, Maverick, Amuzed, & Me....oh no wait that can't be...hmmmmmm?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:21 pm | #

Amuzed. We are always "going".
I post under my real name, I don't hide behind a pseudonym.
Do you live with your mom?
It must be getting increasingly difficult for you "the world is flat" normal people to avoid the truth, as the truth keeps having a funny way of surfacing, despite the efforts of SOME PEOPLE.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:18 pm | #

pray for your enemies
then kill them if they are evil
it is not "murder of innocent life"
it is Godly Duty
bless those who spitefully use you
yes
i bless them
then i kill them if they are evil
i will not do unto evil anything i would not request for myself if i were evil
we ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
being saved by grace through faith we have been redeemed from death
i will even bless the remenant of the evil with a post card from the "we thepeople" conference
READ THE DECLERATION OF INDEPENDANCE
READ PATRICK HENRY'S SPEACH
READ THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS
EVEN GO BACK AND READ THE MAYFLOWER COMPACT
READ THE ORDINANCE OF 1812?

PLEASE ALL YOU WHO THINK THAT YOUR PUSSYISM IS APPROPRIATE
BEING A PUSSY AND BEING A "WE THE PEOPLE" AMERICAN DONT MIX
ITS LIKE OIL AND WATER
REGARDLESS OF YOUR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST
I AM GOING TO PERSONALLY TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK FOR CHRIST
AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT
GO AND START YOUR OWN COUNTRY
CUZ THIS ONE IS CHRISTS
CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC STYLE
LIKE IT OR NOT
THATS WHAT WE GOT
SO IF IT IS UNCOMFORTABLE FOR YOU TO LIVE HERE UNDER THE RULE OF THE SCRIPTURES AND THE COMMON LAW OF THE CONSTITUION AND BILL OF RIGHTS
THEN GO WORK FOR SATAN IN ANOTHER COUNTRY
AS "WE THE PEOPLE" TAKE IT ALL BACK FROM THE CRIMINAL ELITE
YOU DONT PITCH IN AND FIGHT THEN YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:15 pm | #

LOL, I love it when I get you people going.

What a laugh!

The comedy has begun.

Please keep it going.

LMAO
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 8:11 pm | #

You go Micheal Moore.... I love you for coming out and saying 9/11 is not complete
visualvendetta | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:11 pm | #

Come on! I've got a red ball.............
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:05 pm | #

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We can just exchange niceties and tell each other how much we agree with what the other just said
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 8:08 pm | #

cr Maverick. Hi buddy. Just me, you know, the bottom feeding trash?

Your so smart, Mav. You got it all figured out.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:01 pm | #

By the way, there are already hundreds of people calling, so you won't be alone. We need to turn this around like we turned around Michigan refusing to have Dr. Paul in their debate.
Tim | 06.19.07 - 7:57 pm | #

Get this, guys. Iowans for Tax Relief is holding a presidential forum and they refuse to invite Ron Paul. How hypocritical is that. There is a list of numbers, faxes and emails on this page where you can contact the Iowans for Tax Relief. This is extremely important given that it will be a televised forum where Dr. Paul can talk about the illegalities of the IRS. Thanks.
http://digg.com/ 2008_us_election...ef_WTF#c7272421
Tim | 06.19.07 - 7:56 pm | #

Jewish Banker myth.

This is a myth created around the time of the early 20th century, and was used to incite the Germans, and confuse the rest of us.
Bankers come in many shapes, sizes, and colors. The Rothschild's have red hair for God sake!!!
But I have no doubts, that Jewish banker myth shall continue to entertain and expand as "William Wallace was ten feet tall".
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:55 pm | #

Sorry. I will explain one of my abbreviations:

SOMDABASAJASNSMF4PH= Suck on my dick and balls and shit and junk and shit and stuff my fucking 40 porch homeboyees!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:51 pm | #

Dr Nwo. Who are you? Do you think this is a joke? Have you ever researched the NWO or 911, or the other so called "conspiracy" material?
I mean, it's one thing to joke. But really, man to man, what are your true opinions about history, and current events?
Are you a religious person?
A business man?
A high school kid?
I still have no idea.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:46 pm | #

can anyone explain what LMFAO ROTF
or LMAO mean?

LOL, I am a bit behind the times on some of these things, I am not a big text message person on my phone
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 7:46 pm | #

They’re living in denial
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 7:31 pm | #

eeerrrrr, no thats you that it.
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 7:44 pm | #

Jewish bankers have revenge in mind with FEMA camps, it's only fair payback to the gentiles for the concentration camps of WW2.
DR. NWO | 06.19.07 - 7:43 pm | #

Later, dumbasses

LMAO
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 7:31 pm | #

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I bet the cats buried you a lot in your youth. Poor soul.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:37 pm | #

Sorry we had to circumvent the constitution and establish the FED, but we need your money to create a better world, isn't that lovely!
DR. NWO | 06.19.07 - 7:36 pm | #

Amuzed sucks rope.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:34 pm | #

amused and cr maverick:I am in a good mood tonite so I will be nice.WHY DONT YOU GO FUCK YOURSELF AND STAY OFF THIS SITE.Terry the old man in fla,sorry but I was a nice as I could be,you should hear what I like to tell these two moron shills for the nwo.
Endtimetruther | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:05 pm |

I am here to stay. I have said this before, but I will repeat it again for those too fucking stupid to wise up. I come here for only one reason: to make fun of you moonbat, dumbass retards for all the moronic, paranoid bullshit you post here.

I get amusement (hence the name) when you idiots get riled up by what I say. I have told you all this time after time, but it doesn’t matter. I still get under your skin. Why? Becauase you know what you post here is nothing more than paranoid comedy.

So, like I have said to many others… get a life retard.

Oh yes, that reminds me. Some here will remember my big hit MOONBAT RIVER. I wrote it for you all a few weeks ago, and since I know you cant wait to hear it again, I will post it just for you. I know you will enjoy it….

Sing to the tune of Henry Mancini’s big hit.

Ok, everybody now…

Moonbat River
They’re living in denial
The sound like Gomer Pyle
Every day…

All the truth fakers
In the truther Green Acres
Wherever you're going
The NWO is coming your way...

Two truthers
Afraid of the world
It’s such a terrible NWO world
Let’s flee...

We're predicting the world's end
Waiting around the bend
My paranoid friend
Moonbat River and me...

No applause, just throw money.

Later, dumbasses

LMAO
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 7:31 pm | #

Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 7:17 pm | #

next the sad little troll is going to start rambling on about 19 arabs with box cutters who magically managed to make buildings collapse against the laws of physics ...LOL

you are the moron here Amuzed, a sad little troll moron.
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 7:22 pm | #

No wonder you retards are quoting it.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 6:57 pm | #

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Always so polite; its nice to know your mama taught you well! :-(
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:17 pm | #

I corrected that, dumbass... before you even commented... but it is funny that you would quote such ridiculous, paranoid bullshit here.

Got your foil hat on? LOL

Who is the moron?

What a stupid fuck!

LMAO
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 7:17 pm | #

Sunshine | 06.19.07 - 7:11 pm | #

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You brightened my day!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:15 pm | #

So, Mrs. BUSHIE wants money on her husband's birthday? How about she giving the money to the people back that her family has stolen. How much money Mrs. missfit wants for him? Dont they have enough? She is not even the First Lady, they stole the election, she is whe wife of a mafia boss.
Sunshine | 06.19.07 - 7:11 pm | #

This is an islamist propaganda page if I ever saw one. LOL, the bullshit on this page rivals the bullshit here. No wonder you retards are quoting it.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 6:57 pm | #

By the above statement I assume that you really mean they are a news agency based in Baghdad which is not one of the Iraqi news agencies who are working for the Pentagon, as about 50 others are working directly for the Pentagon under the vast psyops program - all public and admitted to.
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 7:11 pm | #

You sound like an idiot.

LOL
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 6:52 pm | #

no you are the idiot, did I say I wrote it? or did it say HAQ news agency at the top of the report?

the funny english is the translation from arabic done by HAQ news agency - MORON
duh!!!
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 7:06 pm | #

I went and checked out the HAQ news agency.

This is an islamist propaganda page if I ever saw one. LOL, the bullshit on this page rivals the bullshit here. No wonder you retards are quoting it.
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 6:57 pm | #

Samarra dam in danger
HAQ Agency

Monday, 18 June 2007

HAQ news agency received from reliable sources from the city of Samarra that the American occupation forces today expelled all the workers and staff who work at the dam of Samarra.

HAQ agency- exclusive

HAQ news agency received from reliable sources from the city of Samarra that the American occupation forces today expelled all the workers and staff who work at the dam of Samarra.

The incoming news that the only people in the place are the American soldiers who are now deployed between infantry over the dam and divers underneath.

Other news also reported that the occupation forces opened Dokan dam and allowed the water to flow since ten days.

Which is among the Samarra street said that the American forces are planning to blow up a disaster which is blowing up the Dam then stick the charge with the Iraqi resistance as it did with the Sarafya bridge and al-Nessur tunnel and others in other places, but this thing is different, because destroying Samarra bridge, which we pray to Allah to prevent them from doing that, as experts said will lead to a disaster which is causing the sinking of entire regions.

HAQ Agency has published before a news that said the occupation forces, from time to time, close the Samarra bridge pretext on existing of a VBIED on the dam and the experts confirmed that several VBIEDs (exploded cars) can not demolish the dam, unless they place explosions on its foundations, and The detonation of the dam will lead to the sinking of Baghdad.

Source of Dam security confirmed that American army divers constantly dive underneath.

======================

I had heard worries about this a few weeks ago, but now they have expelled the workers at the dam, it seems hard to believe they would blow it, but then you never know given what else they have done.
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 6:31 pm |

Biggs, English is not your first language is it? Are you making this up? It does not sound like a real news report. Are you trying to start a rumor that is unfounded?

Jeez, dude…

You sound like an idiot.

LOL
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 6:52 pm | #

uh...was not mrs weaver also assasinated in idaho 15 yrs ago? you know...while she was standing there in the front door holding the infant daughter? and mr. weaver's pre adolescent son...wasnt he shot in the back? did they ever figure out why the feds executed the family dog?
bryah | 06.19.07 - 6:42 pm | #

i appreciate you buddy
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 6:30 pm | #

thank you kindly just trying to help spread some truth

I appreciate you too and any truth seeker here (trolls and Cointelpro types excepted of course)

best regards
Biggs
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 6:34 pm | #

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m3381...&hd=&size=1& l=e

Samarra dam in danger
HAQ Agency

Monday, 18 June 2007

HAQ news agency received from reliable sources from the city of Samarra that the American occupation forces today expelled all the workers and staff who work at the dam of Samarra.

HAQ agency- exclusive

HAQ news agency received from reliable sources from the city of Samarra that the American occupation forces today expelled all the workers and staff who work at the dam of Samarra.

The incoming news that the only people in the place are the American soldiers who are now deployed between infantry over the dam and divers underneath.

Other news also reported that the occupation forces opened Dokan dam and allowed the water to flow since ten days.

Which is among the Samarra street said that the American forces are planning to blow up a disaster which is blowing up the Dam then stick the charge with the Iraqi resistance as it did with the Sarafya bridge and al-Nessur tunnel and others in other places, but this thing is different, because destroying Samarra bridge, which we pray to Allah to prevent them from doing that, as experts said will lead to a disaster which is causing the sinking of entire regions.

HAQ Agency has published before a news that said the occupation forces, from time to time, close the Samarra bridge pretext on existing of a VBIED on the dam and the experts confirmed that several VBIEDs (exploded cars) can not demolish the dam, unless they place explosions on its foundations, and The detonation of the dam will lead to the sinking of Baghdad.

Source of Dam security confirmed that American army divers constantly dive underneath.

======================

I had heard worries about this a few weeks ago, but now they have expelled the workers at the dam, it seems hard to believe they would blow it, but then you never know given what else they have done.
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 6:31 pm | #

biggs
im really thankful for your posts
even in a world of truthers
it seems we all could learn from one another about specifics
i appreciate you buddy
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 6:30 pm | #

sane
i know youre busy
but
did you ever get a chance to watch 911 octopus?
or
911 tv fakery?
just checkin
sounds like you may be on to some good info on "no planes facts"
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 6:28 pm | #

Laura Bush asks for cash for Bush birthday

The nerve of some people asking money for Bushes birthday.

Not a penny will he get from me. Look at all the harm and terror this evil man has done to our country America and to Iraq not to say more.

Lady Laura nice try but you are caught with an evil man such a pitty and now he has you begging for money gee how low can ya go

Just celebrate with your Neo con supporters and who knows maybe your Alquiada friends ??
Susan | 06.19.07 - 6:19 pm | #

www.arcticbeacon.com
www.spirituallysmart.com
www.vaticanassassins.org
www.8thestate.com
www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com

Listen to Alan Watt
Listen to Greg Szymanski
Listen to Eric Jon Phelps
Listen to Leo Zagami
Listen to Vyzygoth
Listen to Red Ice Radio

NEVER LISTEN TO ANYONE ON GCN except Bill Deagle, for they are all working for the NWO.
cr_maverick | 06.19.07 - 6:06 pm | #

Well said that man. You must understand most thinking people understand the dialectical nature of the "9/11 Truth Movement" and have left sites like this to the bottom of the barrel trash who are dumb enough to think they can mount armed resistance against a foe who has at their disposal microwave and electro magnetic scalar weaponry, as well as having complete mental dominion over the majority of the western world. But I s'pose Jarhead Jones has done his job well of fear mongering, while at the same time providing sheeple with false solutions to real problems.

www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com
cr_maverick | 06.19.07 - 6:02 pm | #

9-11 The Explosive Reality: Well worth watching. Biggs | 06.18.07 - 7:49 pm | #

http://investigate911.se/ The_Exp...ull_lenght.html ... if the link does not work scroll down to Freddy or Biggs's post.

Blockbuster video with essential WTC 6 evidence... Missile at 5m 50 sec... Dense dust and smoke rising from ground level, fallout from the missile explosion, while both towers are still visible in the background at 15:46... And most alarming of all, a man with a strong Serbo-Croatian accent helmeted, in a green military uniform blocked a news television camera with his hand, and told the reporter that the tower was coming down, and said "...nothing informations." at 1 hr 09 min. A foreign mercenary soldier on the street in New York the day the WTC came down... Heavy drama. Freddy Fatt | 06.19.07 - 6:09 am | #

Yo Freddy, I saw the vid... It was great, the shots of the Pentagon taken immediately after impact and before the damaged facade had collapsed, showed a hole about the size of a suburban garage... No sign of a plane at all. And no trace of a plane in Pennsylvania, despite continuing assertion that The Happy Schmooligans blasted one out of the sky, plenty of paper strewn across the landscape and burn marks in the trees, but no plane.

This is a must see video despite the fact that it does not bite the bullet quite as hard as it might, re WTC 6 for instance.
Arturo | 06.19.07 - 6:01 pm | #

Have any of you asked yourselves why are innocent people dying in all this madness ??

Well the dark cabal that is responsible for the terrorism on this planet knows by getting at innocent people will raise the level of revenge feelings, and this is why they don't hit the true evil ones that are those who govern government and are corrupted.

If Alquiada was real, they would be hitting at the command center and the leaders not the innocent good people.

But the Bush admin knows this and this evil cabal,likes to condition people to believe Alquiada is real when they are the true Alquiada with trhe CIA being the main disrupter in this world.

And the other reason is : they want to eliminate more than half the wolrd population so they don't care about innocent people.

Time to wake up people, that is reality look around, we might be next on the list.
How can you trust families like the Bush and Clinton's ?????

I wonder who are the true evil one's ???

Do not fall for this war of religions that is being set up to devide the peoples of the planet.

Peace to all good humans from your planet
Phil | 06.19.07 - 5:33 pm |

LOL, Phil, you sound like a dumbass. Ever heard of spell check?

What is an ‘Alquiada?’ Is it a salad or maybe a new kind of fish taco? Oh wait, did you mean Al-Qaeda?

Get a grip, retard.

LMAO!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 6:00 pm | #

Attention scumbag eliteist/globalist/illuminust/free masonry S.O.B.s. You come after me or my family, you might as well put all your body armor on your head
-because that's what I'll be aiming for.

BOOM!
HEADSHOT!
neopolaris | 06.19.07 - 5:25 pm |

LOL, I am sure the only thing you will be shooting off is your mouth. Just like now.

What a retard!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 5:52 pm | #

Depending on the payload, a twin tower type explosion is possible. Was it really a plane that hit the tower?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...x...q4qvA2fRWM& NR=1
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 5:25 pm | #

Those explosions (WTC) did kind of look like the same type of explosions that occured in Baghdad at the start of shock and awe - the Al Jazeera pictures - the ones we have all seen, well some were close ups and the shape and type of explosion did look similar. And we know the pentagon was not hit by a plane (at least any large plane, a smaller drone is not out of the question). So perhaps the plotters did capture/intercept the news feeds, with a little inside help, and then fake the images of the planes in the 17 second delay.
The missing backdrops to some of the pictures, not being able to see Brooklyn or where ever (my NYC geography is not that hot) - anyway to noit be able to see any buidings or land or bridges form an aerial shot of WTC is a little odd to say the least.

Then I guess all the same news shots were sold globally (for plenty of money no doubt) to enable it to be played again and again that day all over the world. All the same doctored shots.

Certainly not a theory to be discounted.
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 5:48 pm | #

Having watched the North American Union shape up over the last 23 years I feel not only qualified but compelled to speak on this.
This started, in Canada, under Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Liberal Party Prime Minister of Canada. Upon his retirement from politics he joined the American Barrick Board of Directors. Barrick is the second largest gold claims holder in the world. Bush Sr. is now, or was recently, a director there. He is a large stockholder. Trudeau was replaced by Conservative Party Prime Minister Brian Mulroney. Guess where he showed up upon retirement. Yes, American Barrick. So much for different parties in Canada. Pretty much the same as the status quo in USA. You can follow a trail of blood around the world as Barrick gobbled up lucrative properties displacing and looting millions of indigenous people in the process. It is all laid out by Orwell in 1984 where he showed the world divided into 3 trading spheres who were perpetually at war with somebody while trading with somebody else. We are seeing it develop with the Asian axis, the Russian confedration, the Eu and the NAU. Ultimately there will be 3. If we don't have all out nuclear war in the meantime.
The most notable, and scary, points about the NAU, to me, are the debriefing held by certain members of the CFR immediately after 9/11. These people are all linked to the NAU movement. What was that debriefing about? How to do it better next time! Do what? Create a security nightmare that would cause all detractors of the NAU to capitulate.
It was reiterated at a meeting of NAU senior participants, including CFR members, where a reporter from Time Magazine asked those assembled "what will it take to push through the NAU? Do we need another 9/11?" The question was not answered in the transcript of the meeting. Sometimes it is enough to ask a question. The answer itself is academic.
I hope that Alex Jones and company will do a lot more research and reporting on this subject before we have the next 9/11.
My email address is on file and I am available to provide text of meetings related to the CFR and NAU.
Speaking of 9/11, without exception, there are no news outlets of any kind that have addressed the issue of Cantor/Fitzgerald, Goldman/Sachs, the US Treasury, US State Department, $40 Billion per day in US Bond trading and the sophisticated software that now allows certain privileged parties to bankrupt any person, corporation or nation at will. In the last 2 years over 2 Trillion has been wiped off the value of world stocks by this group. Leading the pack is the US Govt Plunge Protection Team. Since 9/11 the value, and purchasing power of the US dollar has shrunk by over 50%. We are being enslaved to an unrighteous master that has no morals or ethics whatsoever.
Everybody would be wise to do what Joe Friday and Columbo always did; Follow the Money.
moriyah | 06.19.07 - 5:27 pm | #

Biggs | 06.19.07 - 4:44 pm | #

I just watched it for the 4th time. Take a look at a cruise missle flying through the air:

Depending on the payload, a twin tower type explosion is possible. Was it really a plane that hit the tower?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...q4qvA2fRWM& NR=1
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 5:25 pm | #

LMAO
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 4:32 pm | #

Yeah sometimes I do get a bit upset...

That is when a video like Jeopardy with Rummy makes things clearer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 5:23 pm | #

Re: UK states it went into Afghanistan because it feared Bush would "nuke the shit" out of the country

WTF is this?!!! YEA RIGHT!!! It doesn't take Alex Jones or Steve Watson to tell anyone that this is a load of crap!! Blair went in there because HE IS "BUSH'S POODLE". I guess this type of crap coming from law officials is usually because they want to be felt "special" and also in this case Blair wants this so-called name "Bush's Poodle" to vanish.

That is exactly what Canadian officials are doing in the case of Air India bombing. They knew about it....MY A** they knew!! If they did for ONE SECOND then why did they not speak up earlier? Who were they afraid of? The SIKH drug crime ring??? YEA RIGHT!!!!
truthseeker | 06.19.07 - 5:18 pm | #

Six Scientists Say The Earth today stands in imminent peril

Steve Connor
London Propoganda & LIES Independent
Tuesday June 19, 2007
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Fuck off Ind-LIES-dePropogandent. What about the 20'000 scientists who were trying to get their names taken off your bullshit list for 2 years.

How can a London Toilet Paper, be independant... with the Fascist Saxxe Coburg Gotha, murdering the peoples princess.

You are worse than Scum & Filth, you are a plage
cop-KILLA | 06.19.07 - 5:10 pm | #

This situation in NH reminds me of the Boston Tea Party.
Wil Wilson | 06.19.07 - 4:53 pm | #

hey sane, hey Tired, hey all,

another great load of links here today, thanking you kindly.

Tired if you are unaware of the missile theory, then please watch this video - about 50 mins, it certainly is worth consideration as a theory, the video hangs together well as a piece of evidence.
September Clues – part 1
http://www.livevideo.com/video/s...lues- part1.aspx

September Clues – part 2
http://www.livevideo.com/video/s...lues- part2.aspx

September Clues – part 3
http://www.livevideo.com/video/s...lues- part3.aspx

September Clues – part 4
http://www.livevideo.com/video/s...lues- part4.aspx

September Clues – part 5
http://www.livevideo.com/video/s...lues- part5.aspx
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 4:44 pm | #

Alex Jones said some pretty nasty things about Michael Moore in Martial Law...it's kind of awkward now, lol

I can understand why real conservatives hate him though. He's big on gun control and is a bleeding heart for the immigrants and minorities.

His 9/11 movie was pretty good though
Jon | 06.19.07 - 4:39 pm | #

This is old news , hopefully this is someone the media will listen to , they probably will call him crazy now .. The truth will set us free or we will die fighting for it, either way , i live free or die!!!

911 inside job!!!!!!!!
Johhny A | 06.19.07 - 4:34 pm | #

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

I cannot express how fucking pissed it makes me that Cheney's anti-utopia has gone on for so long without a hint of ending.

Fuck you pelosi, obey, murtha for funding this fucking insanity

FUCK YOU John Roberts, all of Fox, Newt, Wolf, Zahn, scarborogh, buchanan who say we need to give bush one more chance.

fuck you all who talk about paris hilton or britney spears instead of the worst attrocities ever committed in the history of man!

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.18.07 - 3:11 pm | FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

I cannot express how fucking pissed it makes me that Cheney's anti-utopia has gone on for so long without a hint of ending.

Fuck you pelosi, obey, murtha for funding this fucking insanity

FUCK YOU John Roberts, all of Fox, Newt, Wolf, Zahn, scarborogh, buchanan who say we need to give bush one more chance.

fuck you all who talk about paris hilton or britney spears instead of the worst attrocities ever committed in the history of man!

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.18.07 - 3:11 pm |

LOL, sane

you need therapy dude

... or maybe you could just go get a job,

a real job anyway.

I think you are troubled.

you need to change your name to insane

Prozac may be the answer

... or is it lithium

are you bipolar?

Last...

get a life you moron

LMAO
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 4:32 pm | #

Blair 'will hand powers to EU without referendum'

UK Daily LIES, LIES & more LIES Mail
Tuesday June 19, 2007
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Daily LIES Mail, fuck off.
You tell LIES thats the only reason you run at all, is to LIE to the Public, with Acres of PROPOGANDA.

Yesterday you perported the Global Vaccine Genocide, in your article on the All New Flu Jab?????????????????????/

And today we are supposed to beleive a word you say???????

You are as complicit as the Organisers of the Genocide, it is TREASON, and that has a death penalty if you are found guilty.

This is garunteed because of yesterdays artcle, and if they don't I will, be sure of that. tic-toc.

You are scum, filth & death..
cop-KILLA | 06.19.07 - 4:30 pm | #

Support for candidate goes through the roof

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/200...oof/? city_local
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 11:38 am |

LOL, what a retard!
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 4:25 pm | #

Good afternoon, dumbasses.

How is life in the paranoid zone?

LOL
Amuzed | 06.19.07 - 4:23 pm | #

links globalization to taxes and those shadowy figures behind the Federal Reserve Banking Conspiracy (commonly called the "Illuminati" or the "New World Order" ), the 9-11 treachery, social and environmental destruction, and earth changes; and reveals what may be the only no-tax alternative.
http://www.truthaboutax.com/

Population "Control",
New World Order Style
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/ ...opcontrol.shtml

The TRUTH About "Belgium"
The New World Order's Belgian Conspiracy
http://zapatopi.net/belgium/

TV News
Manipulating Public Opinion in the New World Order
http://etori.tripod.com/dajjalsy.../nwo- news1.html

The Messenger of Allah [saws] told us that a group of people would come ahead of the Dajjal and prepare the world for him [to take over].
http://www.missionislam.com/nwo/...m/nwo/ index.htm

Microchip Implants, Mind Control, and Cybernetics
http:// www.conspiracyarchive.com...ind_control.htm

Zacherle Hoag Interview with Sherry Shriner: Alien Agenda and the New World Order
http://www.sherryshriner.com/zac...zach- sherry.htm
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 4:11 pm | #

The ABN/AMRO has a pyramid in their symbol.
http://www.abnamro.nl/nl/images/.../ logo_white.gif
vlunk | 06.19.07 - 3:57 pm | #

Master Rove stunt educating Moore, a decade of planning before 911, a great move to go ahead with suicidal idiocy.
No excuse, all will pay, I do not see how anyone can escape the crash, rich poor whatever color, shape and tongue
jcwhitefang | 06.19.07 - 3:47 pm | #

FUCK his birthday!!! Ask the Bin Ladens for money Bush-----they're your buddies!!!
911truth | 06.19.07 - 3:36 pm | #

Abortion… This model sees the demise of the entire abortion lobby at the gallows.

This is in response to genocide that has been carried out in abortion clinics, and to murder on the streets. It is a call to Islam to wage war in defense of human life, and warns the guilty their lives are forfeit in accordance with AL-ISLAM. Expect the number of executions to be in the millions. Anticipate the demise of virtually the entire medical, political and law enforcement establishments, and the fulfillment of the prophesy of Jesus Christ that, ‘...children shall rise up against their parents and shall put them to death...’ and prepare for a new age of human history.

AL-ISLAM is fealty or fidelity to the law of God. Those who live by Islam, as did Jesus of Nazareth and before him the prophet Abraham, who built the Kaba in the Arabian city of Mecca, an edifice toward which the faithful or those with fealty to God's law turn during prayers, are called Moslems. Moslems must now be responsive to the command from God, transliterated from spoken revelation and recorded in The Koran, to wage war upon those who first wage war upon them. The killings taking place within the abortion & euthanasia industries are acts or warfare upon the people, and remain crimes against humanity.

Governments should view this document as an ultimatum. They have only a certain time to get their act together and respond to the demands made herein. That they get down to the nitty gritty of prosecuting the killer doctors, and the police, and the politicians who have committed, or facilitated, or neglected their duty, as police or as state employees, to investigate or prosecute, crimes against humanity, abortion euthanasia. Then lets just see who gave you all the right to cull the population.

You all suicidals who want to enter Hell with your local GP holding your hand, will just have to resort to tried and true methods that have succeeded in days past, you might like to stretch a rope to the rafters of your dwelling and hang yourselves. And you coppers might as well load up the trusty service revolver, insert the barrel into your gob, and squeeze the trigger, since your fate is just as certain under the strictures of Islamic law.

Because the Moslem is instructed to proceed in the following way, such forces committed to Islam will advance on premises where genocide is taking place, there all persons on the premises will be arrested on capital charges that will be heard under Islamic jurisdiction. As arrests are taking place it is anticipated that abortion staff will contact police, such police that turn up armed, and attempt to thwart arrests will be fired upon, rocket and artillery fire will be directed at police vehicles and buildings. Jihad the wars of the Antichrist will have begun.

A sixteen year old girl was reportedly beheaded for adultery in Iran recently. That is a corruption of the law...

Capital retribution is only demanded in cases of capital rape... read of gang rape by Lebanese civilians on the Streets of Sydney... From The Koran, "... let the adulterer and the adulteress both receive a hundred lashes." Readers will be aware that I endorse capital retribution in the matter of put options purchased by Israeli citizens prior to 911, as well as in the matter of abortion. However the most pleasure I will get is when I behead or hang the perps of so called honor crimes, wherein some crazy has taken it upon him or herself to prosecute death upon a family member who has fallen in love. Jesus was conceived in one such union, abortion nor death to his mother was meted out.

The Pharisees caused their own people to be gassed in the millions during WW2, only some Jews were gassed... Witness Moshe Dyan Kaplan’s testimony re his Amsterdam family emerging unscathed, his claim to be a Pharisee and his contempt for those Jews who were gassed, Cheesies he called them since their diet consisted largely of that product. He said they had been gassed at Auschwitz, and gave me to understand that as far as he was concerned they were neither missed nor mourned.

And the testimony of Katherine Schweitzer a Hungarian Jewish lady from Budapest, her whole family was arrested in 1944 by a Jew member of Horsha, the Hungarian thug police, and deported to Auschwitz. She was the only member of her family to survived that place, and said on TV that the Jew who arrested her was living a few doors up on the same street in Sydney.

We say that Katherine Schweitzer was murdered by Jew elements in reprisal for telling the truth, after I had published the above story on November 30 2006, concerned her testimony would encourage other survivors of the so called Holocaust to do the same. And to warn any other Jews who want the truth to come out just what the consequences will be. Maybe Fritz-Harry Cremer is a Mossad agent and perhaps he talked his way into her apartment and murdered her.

It would be a perfect way for Jewish community to demonstrate it’s readiness to cooperate with broader society by assisting in achieving a prosecution re this matter. Israeli sources should have information on of Fritz-Harry Cremer for instance.

Benjamin Freedman, writes that The Talmud is a relatively modern document, the references he quotes must be seen as endorsing hatred against the Christian community. Arthur Koestler’s famous book The Thirteenth Tribe, appears to confirm Freedman’s assertion that much of the worldly strife in the past several hundreds of years, is the result of friction between the Khazar people of Eastern Europe who converted to Judaism in 740 AD. And the Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of Abraham and indigenous to the Middle East. Koestler and his wife both appear to have been murdered shortly after the publication of that book.

G. Neuburger… Thus physical violence is not a tradition or a value of the Jews. The task for which the Jewish people were chosen is not to set an example of military superiority or technical achievements, but to seek perfection in moral behavior and spiritual purity. Of all the crimes of political Zionism, the worst and most basic, and which explains all its other misdeeds, is that from its beginning Zionism has sought to separate the Jewish people from their G-d, to render the divine covenant null and void, and to substitute a "modern" statehood and fraudulent sovereignty for the lofty ideals of the Jewish people.
Freddy Fatt | 06.19.07 - 3:28 pm | #

Have yous tasted the evidence of TV fakery?

http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com...-tv- fakery.html

I dare yous!
u2r2h | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 3:19 pm | #

What did they expect?? Private property, disrespectfull opening line? Come on now, is this the way to get good comment from her? As Dr. Phil would say: "How's it working for you?"
Confrontatiionaly behavior only begets more in return...they've got the guns, the thugs, and sadly in their case, the right not to be harrassed.
Those body guards and securtiy are trained to look for ripples or waves and eliminate them...they were doing their job as well they should.
Bob Daniels | 06.19.07 - 2:59 pm | #

New “Security & Prosperity Partnership” Records Reveal Proposal for U.S.-Canadian Funded Grants for Mexico

Financial Work Plan, Agenda and Meeting Notes on Pandemic Influenza & Health Threats Made Public

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released documents obtained from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act, concerning the agency’s involvement with the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.

A 10-page partnership “Work Plan for the Financial Services Working Group” is included (somewhat incongruously) among the Health and Human Service records. The “work plan” details 24 specific “deliverables” by officials from the U.S. Treasury, Finance Canada, BANXICO, the Federal Reserve Board – Atlanta, and regulatory agencies from all three countries. The deliverables include “cross-border” cooperation in the areas of car insurance, Social Security totalization for Mexico, banking, and Federal Reserve’s “Directo a Mexico” remittance program.

Among the specific deliverables outlined in the “work plan” is a taxpayer-supported program to improve Mexico’s infrastructure: “Improve North America’s competitiveness by enhancing Mexico’s competitive position through the establishment of a grant fund for development with U.S. and Canadian resources to finance the development of physical infrastructure in Mexico.” The objective has a timeline for completion of 6-18 months.

“If U.S. tax dollars are going to be used to fund Mexico’s economic development, the American people ought to know about it,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Judicial Watch remains committed to ensuring that this process is open and transparent.”

The records also include planning documents and notes summarizing a SPP “technical meeting” held in Ottawa from January 31 – February 1, 2006 and titled, “Enhancing Preparedness Plans and Mutual Assistance for Pandemic Influenza and Other Emerging Public Health Threats in North America.” The meeting did not include representatives from Mexico – a fact the summary notes acknowledge and suggest will “require contacts at the national level first.”

The documents also identify HHS personnel assigned to various SPP working groups. The designated working groups include: communications, legal, foreign nationals, epidemiology, and travel and border issues. (These documents are of particular interest given the recent scandal of the tuberculosis-infected American who recently traveled over the U.S.-Canadian border unimpeded by border authorities.)
sunday billy | 06.19.07 - 2:18 pm | #

"Patriot roundup". Yeah. We are gonna round up all right. Round up and kill all the traitors, that is.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 2:14 pm | #

Remember. It's the Satanists behind it all. Behind the fronts, the secret societies, and the masks. It's Satan and his tares. We must expose them and exterminate them without mercy like cockroaches. Our God is stronger than Satan. And we outnumber them 10-1. Time to rise up. The police won't. They are controlled by the Masons, and Mason Judges, and Shriners, and other various scum.
It's all New World Order.
Time to kill.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 1:46 pm | #

Ten years ago, it was pretty much confined to California, Arizona, Texas, Florida, New York, Illinois and the Chicago area. But about the mid-1990s, as the economy continued to expand, businesses learned that there was virtually no interior enforcement going on in the country. Even though it is against the law for businesses to hire illegal aliens, there is virtually no enforcement. We must direct our anger at our elected officials. The best system in the world will not work if we will not work. We must grab the levers of this Republic and make it work.
sunday billy | 06.19.07 - 1:40 pm | #

THE TRUE STORY OF 9-11
PART 2 of 2
http://www.newswithviews.com/Mon...th/ stanley5.htm

Life After the Oil Crash
http:// www.lifeaftertheoilcrash....eleseminar.html

Police State USA - Part One
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ p...rt09mar06.shtml
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 1:38 pm | #

SELECTIVE STATISTICS ON HATE CRIMES
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#z

JOHN DANFORTH CHOSEN TO LEAD RENO'S NEW WHITEWASH OF WACO
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#aa

THE GOVERNMENT HAS MORE TO HIDE IN VACCINE RESEARCH
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#ab

AN INSIDER MAKES A SLIP OF THE TONGUE ON TAPE:
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#ac

L.A. POLICE CORRUPTION:
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#ad

MORE EVIDENCE THAT MICROSOFT HAS SECRET DEALINGS WITH THE NSA
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#ae

MORE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION COLLUSION WITH CHINA UNCOVERED
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#ai

AMERICA ON LINE (AOL) IS ANTI-GUN AND PRO PORN
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#ao

COMMENTARY ON TAX PROTESTERS AND GOVERNMENT ENTRAPMENT
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#ap

COLUMBINE TAPES
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#aq

KINKO'S ADMITS THAT XEROX COLOR COPIERS HAVE EMBEDDED TRACKING CODES
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#av

NSA REFUSES TO COOPERATE WITH CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT ON ECHELON SPYING
http://www.joelskousen.com/ World...domback.html#ax
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 1:33 pm | #

Nice link to Pam Schuffert. Satanists. Nice.
Don't think I'm really into the whole, lay down and take it Christian thing.
I'm more of a "hunt you down, cut off your head, and shove it up your ass" Christian.

I am going to enjoy stomping you Satanic bitches into pieces. Say hi to Satan when you are burning in hell. I have NO SYMPATHY FOR YOU. Burn fuckers, burn. I've got the marshmallows, chocolate bars, and grahm crackers. Sorry about your luck, scumbags.

Rise up Christians, kill the tares. Defend the children.
Rise up Christians, kill the tares. Defend the children.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 1:27 pm | #

Corrupt to the core.
http://gangstalking.wordpress.co...g/police-abuse/

http://gangstalking.wordpress.co...tag/red-squads/

Advanced surveillance / harassment technologies
http://www.surveillanceissues.co...om/ surveill.htm
The NWO wants a surveilance society, then lets give it to them and put THEM under surveillance as well.

Many Good Links, Very Good Site
Best of 1999 Domestic World Affairs Briefs
http://www.joelskousen.com/World...ld/ domback.html

UNEXPLAINED ASPECTS OF THE COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL SHOOTINGS.
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#a

GOVERNMENT USES DISINFORMATION TO SQUASH TWA MISSILE EVIDENCE
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#b

FBI STILL HOLDING BACK 99% OF THE SECRET WIRETAPS ON CHINAGATE
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#e

COLUMBINE TEACHER'S TESTIMONY RAISES SERIOUS DOUBTS ABOUT OFFICIAL VERSION
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#g

HIDDEN PROVISIONS IN JUVENILE JUSTICE BILL
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#i

THE GOVERNMENT'S DIRTY LITTLE SECRETS ON THE ANTHRAX VACCINE
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#j

A NAFTA MILITARY COMMAND?
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#l

CIA COVERT OPERATIONS IN SERBIA:
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#m

DETAILS ON THE 1994 COMMUNICATIONS ASSISTANCE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ACT, or CALEA
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#p

REPLACEMENT EXECUTIVE ORDER ON FEDERALISM IS A SHAM
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#r

MORE COPY CAT GUN KILLINGS STOKE THE FIRES FOR GUN CONTROL
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#s

MORE EVIDENCE OF JUDICIAL CONSPIRACY
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#t

GEORGE BUSH JR'S DRUG CONNECTIONS
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#v

REPUBLICANS THAT WANT TO KEEP A DRAFT INTACT
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#w

JFK JR. ASSASSINATION:
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#x

NEW LIES FOR OLD--RENO SPINS THE NEW WACO REVELATIONS
http://www.joelskousen.com/World.../ domback.html#y
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 1:25 pm | #

Thompson Links Reid To 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists, Claims He Is ‘Encouraging Our Enemies’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06.../thompson-reid/

In his latest ABC News podcast, former senator Fred Thompson suggests that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) criticized outgoing Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Peter Pace last week to appeal to “fringe” anti-American elements “who think the 9/11 attacks were an inside job.”

Reid “made his statement about General Pace on a conference call with fringe elements of the blogosphere who think we’re the bad guys,” Thompson says. “Whether he means to or not, he’s encouraging our enemies to believe that they are winning the critical war of will.”

Thompson also compares 9/11 conspiracy theories to claims that the war in Iraq was a “sinister Republican plot.” He says, “Reid has led the attack on the administration, with Nancy Pelosi, charging it lied and tricked America into supporting the war.” Thompson claims that “multiple hearings and investigations into pre-war intelligence findings” have “debunked this paranoid myth.”
CLICK HERE TO LISTEN

Thompson’s attempt to link Reid to conspiracy theorists is completely baseless. Thompson also gets his facts wrong. In fact, multiple hearings and investigations have conclusively shown that intelligence was manipulated to send this country into war. Among many examples:

– The Pentagon’s inspector general found that former Undersecretary of Defense Doug Feith developed, produced, and disseminated “alternative intelligence assessments” to falsely claim that a relationship existed between Iraq and al Qaeda.

– The White House set up intelligence stovepipes to “get information they wanted directly to the top leadership.” Vice President Cheney and company relied on information provided by the Iraqi National Congress, an exile group headed by Ahmad Chalabi. “Chalabi’s defector reports were…flowing from the Pentagon directly to the Vice-President’s office, and then on to the President, with little prior evaluation by intelligence professionals.” State Dept. intelligence expert Greg Thielmann said that prior to the Iraq war that “garbage was being shoved straight to the President.”

UPDATE: Bob Geiger, one of the bloggers on Reid’s conference call, responds to Thompson HERE.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 1:12 pm | #

The American Union is Already Here
http://www.infowars.com/ articles...state_docss.htm

North American Union Already Starting to Replace USA
http://www.infowars.com/ articles...replace_usa.htm

Gradually Boiling the Frog Called America
The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP)
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ a...ns01may06.shtml

Spp
http://wordpress.com/tag/spp/

NAU Update: New World Order discussed on CNN- "A new America"!! North & South Amer. Union
http://portland.indymedia.org/en...04/ 356926.shtml
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 1:11 pm | #

Rothschilds and the Grail Bloodline
http:// www.conspiracyarchive.com...child_Grail.htm

Skeletons in the White House
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com...O/ Skeletons.htm

Blair's Protection of Elite Paedophile Rings Spells the End For His Career
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...protection.html

Rise of The G8 New World Order
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005...orld- order.html

DRAFT THE ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND INTERNATIONAL LIMITED (JERSEY) LAW 200
http://www.statesassembly.gov.je...11488- 12104.htm

From the Shadows, emerges a New World Order, THEIR Order
http://www.geocities.com/aliadam...liadams/ nwo.htm

NWO 2006 Plans - William Cooper Had Some Answers
http://100777.com/nwo/cooper
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 1:07 pm | #

Population increase in Deschampsia Antarctica: genotypic variation or phenotypic plasticity?
http://www.nioo.knaw.nl/PROJECTS...S/UPE/projects/

Coping with catastrophe: an ethnography of the Argentine middle class in crisis
http://www.nwo.nl/projecten.nsf/...ages/ 1900117735

NETHERLANDS ANTARCTIC SCIENTIFIC ACTIVITIES
http://www.nwo.nl/nwohome.nsf/pa...pdf? openelement
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 1:02 pm | #

UNCLE SAM AND THE THIRD BALKAN WAR
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/libr...acts/ uncle.html

ppi.020-NWO secrets revealed
http://www.cyberjournal.org/cj/s...tch=16& lists=cj

THE OMEGA FILE:
http://www.think-aboutit.com/ ali...ga_file_txt.htm

On the Brink of Madness
http://www.truthinmedia.org/Trut.../tim99-2- 8.html

Wither Dayton, Sprout New War
http://www.truthinmedia.org/Trut.../tim99-3- 2.html

BEWARE OF ILLUMINATI SECRET MASONIC GOALS
http://www.fdrs.org/ illuminati_s...et_masonic.html

New Insights in Balkan-Anatolian Connections in the Late Chalcolithic: Old Evidence from the Turkish Black Sea Littoral
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici...%3E2.0.CO%3B2- 8

Balkan Wars Cover-Up
Yugoslavia 1999
http://www.thehemperor.net/balkans.html

Human Sacrafice and the coming Martial Law
http://www.meguiar.addr.com/ huma..._sacrifices.htm
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:57 pm | #

THIS IS MORE PROOF THEY ARE SETTING UP FALSE FLAG ATTACKS IN AMERICA TO BE BLAMED ON "BOOGEYMEN AL-CIA-DA" and probably Iran as well to start WW3, and declare Marshall Law too and to totally destroy America too! To finish off America!
9-11 truther | 06.19.07 - 12:56 pm | #

THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND THE EVIL EMPIRE
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/pm/nwo.htm

"To the future or the past,
to a time when thought is free,
when men are different from one another
and do not live alone -
to a time when Truth exists
and
WHAT IS DONE CANNOT BE UNDONE:
From the age of uniformity,
from the age of solitude,
from the age of Big Brother,
from the age of doublethink -
greetings!"

From the age we live in... I add.
George Orwell: "1984", p.29

Welcome to the new world order...
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/arch...es/27c/ 509.html

Communist Goals (1963)
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communis...sm/ comgoals.htm

Cancellations hit home-builder orders
http://mparent7777- 2.blogspot.co...09_archive.html

Nightfall in Fallujah
http://www.unknownnews.net/04111...041119d- kf.html

FAKE AL-QAEDA (Mossad & CIA brand terror)
lots of other links
http://www.taroscopes.com/links.html

See trail photos from Finland in 2002
http://100777.com/node/365

Chemtrails
http://www.chemtrailagenda.com/

Chemtrails: Suppression of Human Evolution
http://educate-yourself.org/mnt/ ...on29sep00.shtml

TAPS, CLOVERLEAF, And Solar Energy Production
http://bb.nightskylive.net/aster...topic.php? t=185

Chemtrails: Text book for kids.
http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog...0013- 000211.htm

Chemtrails & Terror in Age of Nuclear War
http://www.illuminati-news.com/c...-and- terror.htm

The Awakening News
http://www.geocities.com/ theawak...a_A_Attack.html
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:51 pm | #

AFL-CIO - The American Federation of Latinos / Congress of Immigrant Organizations?
by Peter Brimelow
To great applause, the AFL-CIO has just reversed its opposition to illegal immigration and come out for ANOTHER amnesty. The political economy of this:

[1] labor unionism is declining among native-born Americans, so immigrants represent a new market;

[2] if illegals can be unionized, employers can’t use them as scabs;

[3] the only labor unions that are growing represent public-sector workers, for whom immigrants are a client constituency – the California teachers union and public service union were the main funders of opposition to Proposition 187;

[4] unions are increasingly run by middle-class leftist professional apparatchiks, whose concerns don’t reflect their blue-collar members’;

[5] (to be fair) the rest of the political class isn’t serious about illegals, so why shouldn’t labor unions salvage something from the wreck? Arizona is debating reversing its decision to require proof of citizenship for a driving license. Has John McCain complained? (Licenses for immigrants - It's no longer a foolish notion, by O. Ricardo Pimentel, The Arizona Republic, Feb. 17, 2000)
sunday billy | 06.19.07 - 12:45 pm | #

I really do have to apologize for those continuing typos (I've got small kids running around the house here -- and I'm easily distracted).

No excuse other than to say -- I'm really sorry for that. And to make up for it (this) --

Bush Knew:,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...h? v=CCjbmImBa6w
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 12:42 pm | #

This is INFORMATION everyone should know:

Missile - Drone?
http://911exposed.org/Missile.htm
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 12:09 pm | #

Very Good Post
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:39 pm | #

Reports From Peru
http://educate-yourself.org/rfp/

New World Order News
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/ ...newsindex.shtml

Incatourism in Bolivia and Peru: sustainable poverty reduction and economic development (Pisaq, Tarabuco, Copacabana & Puno)
http://www.nwo.nl/projecten.nsf/...ages/ 1700116481

Incatourism and sustainable authenticity in Pisaq, Peru
http://www.nwo.nl/projecten.nsf/...ages/ 1700116483

CURRICULUM VITAE
Pieter Cornelis Muysken
http://www.knaw.nl/pdf/cv_muysken.pdf

CFR: US, Canada & Mexico Borders To Be Abolished
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/...tid=2298& page=2

LARGEST LAYOFF IN HISTORY
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/...ad1868- 180.html

Hate- Speech and the New World Order
http://www.antiwar.com/stone/ sto...tone042800.html
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:38 pm | #

If you THINK that was nice -- then spent about seven minues lisening to more of Dr. David Ray Griffin and what he has to tell us regarding the official story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=W...h=reopen911.org
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 12:36 pm | #

This is INFORMATION everyone should know:

Missile - Drone?
http://911exposed.org/Missile.htm
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 12:09 pm | #

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 12:34 pm | #

These stories just in on FOW Fiction for NWO:

It will be unlawful to wear hats, sunglasses and certain tyoes of winter wear within a banking institution.

Kilmer Middle School in Virginia- Students wioll be disciplined for any physical contacy with each other including High Fives and Shaking Hands.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:33 pm | #

Conquerors’ hopes dashed
http://www.nwo.nl/nwohome.nsf/ pa...NWOP_674ER3_Eng

The Unholy Alliance -
Christianity & The NWO
Part III
http://www.rense.com/general21/u...l21/ unholy3.htm

For International Workers' Solidarity

Without Solidarity ALL Workers are Lost
Build Solidarity in Your Union or Organization
http://www.geocities.com/capitol...8425/ urgent.htm

Guatemala mob kills suspected organ thieves
http://asinthedaysofnoah.blogspo...cted- organ.html

The Origins of the Overclass
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com...O/ Overclass.htm

Human Rights and The New World Order
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/arch...es/27c/ 507.html

What Is Restorative Justice?
http://gbgm-umc.org/nwo/99ja/what.html

Guatemala Struggles to Find Peace
http://gbgm-umc.org/NWO/99ja/gua.../ guatemala.html

Human Rights and The New World Order
http://quaylargo.com/rkm/ND/ jan9...NWORights.shtml
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:30 pm | #

America's Left, no longer left for dead
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/

The New World Order (NWO)
An Overview
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/

Sustaining Total War: Militarisation, Economic Mobilisation and Social Change in Japan and Korea (1931-1953
http://nwo.nl/projecten.nsf/page...ages/ 2300134094

The New World Order
http://100777.com/node/20

More on Meyer
http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/mormey.htm

Sustaining Total War: Militarisation, Economic Mobilisation and Social Change in Japan and Korea (1931-1953)
http://www.onderzoekinformatie.n...oek/OND1315521/
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:25 pm | #

Zik. You are right. I have been inside the Ranger barracks, and they have huge quotes on the wall from people like Ghengis Kahn promoting rape, murder, and pillaging. They also sing songs about smashing in babies skulls.
Our military has been brainwashed.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 12:21 pm | #

THE OMEGA AGENCY
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com...-agency- nwo.htm

Microchip Implants, Mind Control, and Cybernetics
http:// www.conspiracyarchive.com...ind_control.htm

THE OMEGA AGENCY
http://www.aliensurgeon.com/ newo...eworldorder.htm
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:20 pm | #

Ed Brown is the man. He is dead nuts 100% on task. And he is the voice leading the way for all Americans in this moment in time. Thank you Ed Brown!!!!
You are a stand up patriot!!!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 12:17 pm | #

LIsten those who hide behind the support the trrops are evil minds. For the troops are executing terror, violence it has nothing to do with war. It is more genocide. destruction of the Iraqui people.
Evil commands the military, how can you humans support the troops when it is evil ??????

Look at yourselves in a mirror and ask yourselves
What have I become??????????

HOw can I be so evil killing, murdering humans ?
Is money more important than humanity?

Where are your values ?

Stand up to evil for evil will sacrifice you sooner or later

Peace and Love for all humans of your planet earth
Zik | 06.19.07 - 12:17 pm | #

Operation Paperclip Casefile
http:// www.conspiracyarchive.com...t_paperclip.htm

New World Order Definition
http://threeworldwars.com/new-wo...world- order.htm
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:17 pm | #

I want to share with you folks one of my FAVORIETE PEOPLE (David Ray Griffin) //

Listen to this short clip (8 min) on what it is he has to say about the 9/11 Commission and what they forgot to tell us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=b...h=reopen911.org
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 12:15 pm | #

Brad. Welcome to Earth. And thank you, and your friends for the help, we need it.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 12:15 pm | #

What Really Caused World War 1?
http://threeworldwars.com/world-...d-war-1/ ww1.htm

Bankers Extended World War I By Three Years
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ m...rs18jun06.shtml

FACTS ABOUT CIVIL WARS IN EX-YUGOSLAVIA
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/LIBRARY.html

cj#624> re: America & NWO & credibility
http://legalminds.lp.findlaw.com...l/ msg00181.html

THE THULE SOCIETY & NWO
http://www.cephasministry.com/nw...m/ nwothule.html

The victor writes the history!
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:14 pm | #

Theres more holes in the official story of 911 than a swiss cheese factory under audit. Come on Moore, jump on the wagon! This ain't a joke, or a popularity contest. This is our fucking country man!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 12:12 pm | #

Yes the industries are all part of the mexican invasion of illigals. Whatever farmers, buisiness people who support the destruction of America are all about exploiting the poorest to illiminate the descent salaries. Capitalism is the problem.

Open your hearts to the spiritual values that are the true laws of the Universes.

Man has sined for too long being greedy and selfish.

The time has come for your earth peoples to Unite and get rid of the Neo Cons that have you under there control. There evil control of the free massons of this planet.

Wake up humans of planet earth. The time to free yourselves is now arrived.

No more wars, they live on wars and violence, they are the true Alquidas's of this world. They beleive that they control your minds, they take you for idiots, but you know what?

They are dead wrong, humanity is about to show them a lesson of life. It took centuries to arrive here but now the good will prevail and defeat the Evil ones from this planet earth.

No more government terrorism sponsoring, no more wars

Peace and Love to all humans for operation freedom to earth is about to commence.

Humanity is good in nature it is about time you earthlings show it
Brad | 06.19.07 - 12:09 pm | #

This is INFORMATION everyone should know:

Missile - Drone?
http://911exposed.org/Missile.htm
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 12:09 pm | #

The New Pearl Harbor:
Was the Bush Administration Complicit in 9/11?
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ n...or11mar04.shtml

Space Pearl Harbor?
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/ ...or06jul06.shtml

71 HISTORICAL EXAMPLES: -
http://www.cremationofcare.com/ t...the_nwo_prs.htm

Edward Griffin - Soviet Subversion of the Free Press - An Interview with ex-KGB Agent Yuri Bezmenov (1984)
http://100777.com/

The Bombing of Pearl Harbor
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/ pearl_h...earl_harbor.htm
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:09 pm | #

Newspaper readership is down, but there are lots of 'newspapers' being read on the web.
Crafty | 06.19.07 - 12:09 pm | #

"The dollar won't buy a stick of bubble gum the way it's going."

Yes it will. 1$ per stick. So for a wrigley pack of 25, you will pay 25$ + sales tax, and carbon tax- due to the chewing emissions.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 12:08 pm | #

Something many have not even considered...A Missile can be built to look exactly like a plane, planes can be outfitted with the same payloads as missiles. But I have yet to hear this voiced. May sound far out there, but is it really?
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 11:59 am | #

I think the new videos that Bigg posted yesterday opened my mind to alternative theories. I just talked to someone last night who say the second hit and he confirmed it was grey and could not be certain it was a plane now that he thinks about it. He also said at the moment it happened he did not believe it and only until the radio commented did he believe what he was seeing. "The power of nightmares" is an underrated documentary.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 12:06 pm | #

Moore is so full of shit. "911 may be an inside job"?
Buddy, being who you are, if you don't know that for a fact by now, I say you are full of shit. Enjoy you NWO money. Nice conditioning and damage control, fat man.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 12:02 pm | #

The dollar wont buy a stick of bubble gum the way its going.
More death, more taxes, no money.Less freedom.
The posts are getting down to it, like em more and more. It is not simply the USA listening, it is the world, trust me, they need to hear that Americans are not all moronic robots, led by criminals,elite pyschopathic, & puppeteers.
I have kicked around the southern parts of this planet for some time, the informed understand, the majority do not, they feel we are warmongering freaks led by lunatics with visions of royalty dancing in their heads. People who care only for themsleves and their country, completly, literally brainwashed to allow these Bloodsuckers to control us. In plain english they beleive we are out of our minds following the leaders we have in office. Not to say SA is paradise, but trust me they know the deal much better than the ol bubble people. In other words they recognize power and corruption, no blinders, no biggy here on mind control.
Do not resist, do not divide, and my thanks to all of you and the AJ prison planet and the many others getting the word out.
And end to Human Sacrifice, mental slavery, and the power of the elitist criminals over the masses.
chris jones | 06.19.07 - 12:01 pm | #

Jones in 5, fellas. Click the listen live on PP.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:59 am | #

Here is what a cruise missle looks like flying through the air. Depending on the payload, a twin tower type explosion is possible. Was it really a plane that hit the tower?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...x...q4qvA2fRWM& NR=1
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:57 am | #

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Something many have not even considered...A Missile can be built to look exactly like a plane, planes can be outfitted with the same payloads as missiles. But I have yet to hear this voiced. May sound far out there, but is it really?
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 11:59 am | #

The "Sawstank Redemption" will sound something like this...........

(Timid voice) Hi, mu, mu, mu, mine name is, um, Rich. And I'm a Jewaholic.

(Crowd responds) Hi Rich!

(Still timid) I, ah, first started hating Jews when I was about, um, thirteen...............
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:58 am | #

This just in on Fox News:
One Farmer in California has moved his farming to central mexico because he cannot get Legal laborers and says that if there is not immigration reform soon to allow for "guest" workers more farmers will follow suit. Guess he missed out on the many many CITIZENS that would jump at the chance for work here....oh wait no he didn't miss out he refuses to pay a decent wage so hee seeks slave labor from mexico to do it. What a thinly disguised report because farmers rely on ILLEGALS because they do not have to pay much to get them. Immigratiuon reform cuts out the slave wages so give me a break fox fiction, the farmers don't want it either.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 11:57 am | #

And for YOU that have never seen one (except the WTC and yet still disagree) --

Here's what a series of legal CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS look like // Enjoy the music:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/17...732/demolition/
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 11:50 am | #

Hate to keep interrupting you like this -- But --

Speaking of 'no plane' theory // Here's what a CRUISE MISSILE is capable of doing // Make sure you turn your volumn (sound) down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=Hma_Bh45bD8
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 11:44 am | #

"They are angry all the time, and they feel that no one understands them."

Ummm, I think this can be said about any one of us who have awakened to the truth.
MediaPuppet | 06.19.07 - 11:44 am | #

Woodward questions Thompson role in Watergate.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...e-in-watergate/
Former senator Fred Thompson was the Senate Watergate Committee’s chief minority counsel in 1973 and 1974, and is often credited with asking a question during the Watergate hearings “that led to the disclosure of the fact that President Nixon had installed recording devices in the Oval Office.” But in an online chat yesterday, Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward disputed this history:

The veteran journalist, whose early reporting was instrumental in uncovering the scandal, said that when Thompson asked the question, he already “knew the answer — because three days before the public testimony, lawyers and investigators for the committee got Butterfield to reveal the existance of the secret tape-recording system. Though Thompson seems to get public credit for asking this critical question, it was the work of others on the committee staff who dug out Butterfield’s revelation in a lengthy interview on a hot Friday afternoon on July 13, 1973.”
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:44 am | #

Earmark Victory May Be a Hollow One

by Ron Paul

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/...ul/ paul392.html
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 11:43 am | #

No more wars like this

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/ ar...RTICLE_ID=56230
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 11:40 am | #

Can't tell me and Sane apart? Dude, I don't even know how to post a link!!!! I'm a novice who just bought his first computer about 6 months ago!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:40 am | #

AND HERE'S EVEN MORE OF THAT IMPORTANT STUFF --

http://video.google.ca/ videoplay...795223394289910
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 11:40 am | #

Good link Jbrid. Bush is straight fucking lying. God this country is scary now. This maniac is the President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:38 am | #

If you think me and Sane are the same person, I am sure he will find that even more humorous than me! Your cognizant skills are astounding. It's amazing how the Sanegabe sock puppet can switch so quickly between the left and right brain hemispheres, without lag.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:29 am | #

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I sure cannot tell you two apart
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:38 am | #

Support for candidate goes through the roof

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/200...oof/? city_local
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 11:38 am | #

SOME MORE IMPORTANT STUFF --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G...h?v=GO- 9LQDFE2Y
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 11:37 am | #

i saw 'Braveheart' three times; good movie but i don't determine my personal philosophy by anything coming out of Hollywood.

jake | 06.19.07 - 6:45 am | #

That is a statement I hear from so very many people. They will say they don't believe what comes out of hollywood, they don't believe what they see on the internet. But Yet they do believe the total fiction they see on the news every night and they believe what the Politicians have to say. HMMMM! So Hollywood is fiction and the news and politicians aren't......I guess that there has never been any lies told in congress either. I suppose we have never been in any wars we had no business being in before, i would wager that our Government does npot wire tap and surveil us and they are not really building FEMA camps and they are not planning a nuclear attack on our own soil. DSo i guess we can all just go back to our normal lives now....NOT!

Sorry Jake this wasn't aimed at you, i just was using your statement to make a point, but nothing to do with you.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 11:35 am | #

Bush lied, people died:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...ZCaP_e3bzE& NR=1
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:35 am | #

Jew haters are alot like disgruntled Postal workers. They are angry all the time, and they feel that no one understands them. So eventually, they get real quiet for alot of years until.............
BLAMMO
Every one dies.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:35 am | #

"3 minute limit"
Now that was worth a good chuckle! Touche, Sane.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:31 am | #

IMPORTANT STUFF --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...related& search=
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 11:31 am | #

all i have to say is fear the blue beam and dont bleave everything you see,.
whocares | 06.19.07 - 11:28 am | #

King and Sane - both same person, should debate himself about it. Ill cut to the end for you - ISRAEL AND ZIONISM WINS.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 11:24 am | #

Awww Rich are you going over your 3 minute limit per day to debunk all of our truths?
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:28 am | #

Impeachment FAQ

http:// www.americanchronicle.com...articleID=30042
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 11:28 am | #

And Rich.
You are so lost in those "woods" that you spoke of, that you can't see the forest through the trees.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:26 am | #

Media Control - 5 companies own 99% of what we see hear and read:

ABC/Disney - Walt (like Henry Ford) was a jew hater and not much has changed at Disney other than putting some jews in sub-elite positions to use them later as is the overall plan.

News Corp - Chinese controlled through Mrs. Murdoch

Viocom - 70% ownership by Redstone (yes a jew ) - he has diversified so much that the company is more of a parent to many 50/50 deals of non-jewish entities like viacom India. He is definitely illuminati and not a practicing jew.

AOL/Time Warner - 100% illuminati - look at their logos (jews do not like pyramids)

GE/NBC - Owned by military industrial complex - not jews

In addition - media is mostly a tool for other more powerful industries namely the energy and war industries.

These companies are most definitley not jewish owned.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:24 am | #

King and Sane - both same person, should debate himself about it. Ill cut to the end for you - ISRAEL AND ZIONISM WINS.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 11:24 am | #

Paul for president
By Times-Herald readers

http://www.timesheraldonline.com....com/ ci_6176987
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 11:24 am | #

Whocares.
Your right. Prophecy won't happen unless I make it happen. Where is that damn third angel? Dumb as showed up without his trumpet again!!! And I texted messaged him not more than two hours ago!!!!!!! God damn it!!!!!!!! It's like babysitting a bunch of kids or something!!!! Where did I put that damn Ark of the covenant?............Hey, tell the two witnesses to get ready, their up in 15 minutes. Peter. PETER!!!!!!!!!!! Wake the hell up! I can't believe your napping at a time like this............
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:23 am | #

Rich is full of hatred, Jbrid.
I think it is time for a group hug, and some healing.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:15 am
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No thanks. I don't want to stand the chance of having any of that stuff that had sadly affected his mind to possibly rub off on me.

Mentions Jesus (by name) and yet doesn't seem to understand anything 'about throwing the first stone' ... Go figure.
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 11:20 am | #

Is that really ALL YOU HAVE? name calling?

I WILL BLAME ANYONE I PLEASE.
I dont need your permission.

I WILL CALL THE BALSS AND STRIKES AS I SEE THEM. Your TERRORIST ACTS dont frighten me.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 11:20 am | #

If everyone acted on the fact that the Internal Revenue Code says that private earnings are not taxable income, we would win in a month.
Marcianne | 06.18.07 - 11:26 pm | #

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She is right folks, they could not fight us all. They would be forced to admit that they have been duping an entire nation.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 11:19 am | #

I notice, as all readers notice, how you DANCE AROUND the issue.

Since you have the answers, GIVE THEM!

Are you saying, the MEDIA IS ON THE SIDE OF RON PAUL????? on the side of 911 truth???? on the side of Palestinians??? ending the wars for Israel????

are you SAYING THAT MEDIA IS ON THE SIDE OF ALEX JONES AND HIS CAUSE?????

are you???

and if they ARE the enemy.

then they are the enemy.

And I am not asking AT ALL, for you to listen to me. I DEMAND< you go STUDY YOURSELF!

Capitalism. Media IS OWNED PROPERTY! It is OWNED. PEOPLE WITH NAMES! Managers, officers, people WITH NAMES!

We have those names!

Media is JEW TOWN.

KNOWN PUBLIC FACT.

INESCAPABLE.

Only defense offered... It is OK for a JEW TO RAPE YOU.. it would be hate anti-semitism to resist
Rich | 06.19.07 - 11:18 am | #

"when he told Jones, tongue-in-cheek, that he didn't report on NORAD standing down because "it would be un-American."

Well, in the documentary Jones didn't take it as tongue-in-cheek, but bashed Moore with angry attitude. Suddenly Alex Jones' mind has changed.
EL | 06.19.07 - 11:18 am | #

Stifle, stifle, stifile.

You can't stifle everything. But, you can try.
curious | 06.19.07 - 11:16 am | #

Tired Of The Lies, We probably will NOT get the opportunity to do otherwise as they are planning another false flag attack I TOTALLY believe only this time it will be NUCLEAR and they will probably blame it on Iran to start WW3 and then also declare Marshall Law too! How do you suggest we make these stupid, gullible, in denial, sheeple INSTANTLY WAKE UP TO TRUTH OF WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON? Much less have them take some sort of action!?
9-11 truther | 06.19.07 - 3:36 am | #

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And this is in fact the problem. This Government has spent 2 centuries making the people Soft and complacent. They have brainwashed, and brainwashed and brainwashed. They begin when you are a small child, then they make laws to restrict and confine. They take things that are normal and natural and turn them into filhty disgusting things, take the issue of sex, we are taught from small children up that it is dirty and disgusting, and never to be spoken of and that anything outside of the "norm" is perverted. But the "norm" is decided by the Wealthy Elite. We are all so screwed up in our minds that we trully don't know which way is up. But this is exactly how they designed it. But Do not underestimate the people of this country. Another false flag will be their downfall, the NWO will not be able to hide the truth, as will 911 the truth came out. While many deny and don't allow themselves to see, martial law will be a breaking point. More people see that we think, more people are ready to fight for liberty than we think. The truth is the key here, we keep putting it out there, we keep telling whoever we can, we keep up the passive resistance and then, when the time comes for the fight that is going to have to come, those that see will stand behind us and we will win. But the thing is we need to all understand and know the weapons that will be used against us, that is what we do here, that is what we do out in the world. Expose those weapons to all. That is what the things they do now are, weapons. They use them to oppress, they use them to break the spirit, they use them to control. So I say that what we do as a whole is RESIST, do not submit, do not bend, and be ready for what the consequences are for that. Take solice in Ed Brown and his Wife, they are ready to fight and die for what they believe to be right, and every day they get more suppot, that is what it takes to wake up the people. Showing them that we can and will resist and fight back. That is why so many refuse to open their eyes, they are affraid that they will be alone in it. So show them they are not. Use every chance you get to resist and be vocal and public about it. We can all show the sleeping sheeple that they do not have to be affraid and that they are not alone. That is how we win.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 11:16 am | #

Rich is full of hatred, Jbrid.
I think it is time for a group hug, and some healing.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:15 am | #

i want to make this clear iam not blameing jews ..but you just named alot of those christion zionest iam talking about ...maybe i should do a report on this someday..but i dont want to get flaged..that bad these guys are evil... thse chrisions that are doing everything they can to insure that there judgement day happens are bad people and we will suffer for there actions. jews are accuatly going to get screwed for trusting these people but they are folloing there order now. and doing the bitting
whocares | 06.19.07 - 11:04 am | #
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Yes, you are right, I apologize. As an ideology there are christian zionists who do believe that the state of israel in some was will bring the second coming of jesus.

These arechristian zionists (also hijacked by illuminati).

The problem with that theory (similar to the problem with thechristian zionist theory) is that the messiah, jesus, meshiach will not come because we have created a "Man-Made" state of Israel.

Jesus/Messiah/Meshiach will coe when God determines-not man. The state of Israel cannot be declared by man, borders, UN, treadies. The state of Israel in the biblical sense does not exist untilGod declares it. And in my opinion this has yet to occur.

So the jewish zionists and christian zionists that believe in putting lines in the sand as a way to bring about a messionic age are truly livving in lala land.

Jesus/Messiah/Meshiach will come when there is an awakening to the evil that controls us through seduction, fear, greed, deception, etc.

Thanks for clarifying that about the christian zionists, my last post had a limited vision.

In addition the christian zionist movement has been hijacked by illuminati to instill the idea that the golden mosque must be destroyed to bring about Jesus. This perversion again has caused black ops support of israeli-palestinian conflicts so that it may hit the golden mosque. THis willl not bring about Jesus but may bring a full arab/jewish nightmare (another illuminati plan).
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:15 am | #

June 18, 2007 -- ARLINGTON, VA – The Ron Paul campaign issued the following statement:

"As a congressman, Ron Paul has been a leader in the fight to end illegal immigration. He voted for a border fence, opposes the current Senate "compromise" bill, and introduced legislation to end birth right citizenship. Dr. Paul has consistently warned Americans about the looming menace of the North American Union and is the only presidential candidate calling for an end to welfare benefits, mandatory medical care and free education for illegal aliens.

"No leader in Washington has fought to end illegal immigration harder than Congressman Ron Paul," said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "Dr. Paul knows that America must never grant amnesty to those who are in our country illegally."

The following are statements Dr. Paul has made in the U.S. House of Representatives:

-- "The much-vaunted Senate "compromise" on immigration is a compromise alright: a compromise of our laws, a compromise of our sovereignty, and a compromise of the Second Amendment. That anyone in Washington believes this is a credible approach to solving our immigration crisis suggests just how out of touch our political elites really are."

-- "If we reward millions who came here illegally, surely millions more will follow suit. Ten years from now we will be in the same position, with a whole new generation of lawbreakers seeking amnesty."

-- "...real national security cannot be achieved unless and until our borders are physically secured. It's as simple as that. All the talk about fighting terror and making America safer is meaningless without border security. It makes no sense to seek terrorists abroad if our own front door is left unlocked."

Source: Ron Paul campaign
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 11:15 am | #

Christianity BEGINS AND ENDS, with the VERBAL SPOKEN TEACHINGS OF JESUS.

That is all Christianity.

That is the teachings of that teacher, you devote your life TRYING to understand.

A parent tells the small child of ghosts in the woods, because that is the language of a child. To keep the child from the woods. When the child is ADULT ENOUGH to be safe in the woods, they will ALSO be adult enough to see the wisdom in the STORY of ghosts and move beyond it.

By great Teacher Jesus, taught more than I will have life enough to understand as he understood it.

Jesus NEVER TAUGHT, the GARBAGE of your ZIO-Christianity.

That CULT, is all making up FAKE TEACHINGS 'for' Jesus, then INSERTED.

Jesus never taught ANY ZIO FILTH.

Jesus DOES NOT MURDER, as ZIONISM murders SEMITES to take their land, and give it to NON-semite WHITE WHITE WHITE people who CONVERTED into 'honorary' followers of Abraham but no real relation.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 11:13 am | #

Rich. If a Chinese Polish nigger owned ABC, and sold out to the NWO, would that mean that all Chinese Polish niggers are evil?

Your stereotyping brain is programmed deeply. Did you grow up in a KKK commune?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:13 am | #

http://www.christian-zionism.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Chr...ristian_Zionism
http://www.cc-vw.org/articles/cz.../ czdefine1.html
links just cus u think iam not informed about this
whocares | 06.19.07 - 11:12 am | #

(quote - RICH)
ZEWS ARE MEDIA
MEDIA IS YOUR ENEMY
ZEWS ARE YOUR ENEMY
etc., etc.

Maybe some are, maybe some are not. You want to put everyone is a neat little to handle package // and I say that makes you NO-brained forum friend who seems to enjoy spewing hate mongering of your own in this forum.

Am I wrong, folks?
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 11:11 am | #

AIPAC SPY TRIALS?

We need king/sane to tell everyone it is freedom of speech/ yeah, those Zews have freedom of speech rights to freely betray america. After all, the needs is Israel come BEFORE america. You cant betray America to Israel. America is property of Israel. The master cant steal from his own dog.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 11:10 am | #

Cult of gentile Talmudists?

Sorry Rich. I don't condone fucking children in the ass, or anywhere for that matter. Or boiling Jesus in shit. Try again.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:08 am | #

The reason SANE/KING and all your other names, is one person chatting to yourself, is that you have NO ONE to chat to.

The one thing everyone agrees on is....

complicity of the media in all the problems
complicity of the media in allowing mass illegal immigration
complicity of the media in Iraq war and WMD lies
complicity of the media in framing up Iran war
complicity of the media in helping the genocide of the Palestinians.
complicity of the media in keeping the WILL OF THE PEOPLE from making Ron Paul president.
complicity of the media in
complicity of the media in
complicity of the media in
complicity of the media in

and we all agree... ZEWS ARE THE MEDIA ZEWS OWN THE MEDIA ZEWS MAKE THE MEDIA

Inescapable.

The argument of the ISRAELI AGENT IS... "Just because the media and ONLY THE MEDIA makes your defeat possible, and just because YOU CAN YOURSELF LOOK UP AND RESEARCH YOURSELF YOURSELF YOURSELF YOURSELF who OWNS AND CONTROLS THE MEDIA... then, there is no reason to blame the controllers/owners of the media for what the media does.

Yeah, LYING TO YOU.

ZEWS ARE MEDIA
MEDIA IS YOUR ENEMY
ZEWS ARE YOUR ENEMY.

inescapable.

their ONLY defense?

Jews are ALLOWED TO RAPE YOU! because if you resist, you are a hate anti-semite.

Are you really scared of their name calling???? it is SO BORING, so OVERUSED. Nothing to fear. Peter cried wolf too many times.

PETER AND WOLF? or are your OWN STORIES hate now? because they remind of who you used to be?
Rich | 06.19.07 - 11:06 am | #

Where the hell are the AIPAC trials (due to start 15 June 2007)?

WHY no info anywhere on them?

Have they been postponed, cancelled; are they being held in the latrine of Skull & Bones?

WHERE are they???!!!

Does ANYONE know what happened to them?
Adam Ghaznavi | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:05 am | #

Whocares.
Don't get upset and toss your application. Jesus is an "Equal opportunity employer".

I find it suspect that Moore declined to speak to Alex, and didn't cover the really hardcore 911 issues in his movie. I think more is just a grandstander, and damage control and conditioner for the NWO. He also badgered Charlton Heston about gun control. Fuck Moore. Jones is the real deal. And he never shoots down anyone without good reason.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 11:03 am | #

sane you forgot to mention the christion zionist who are more apprate of this so called illuminate and controlling the streings insureing isreals survival to the end of times that they believe and want to insure happens so there creator will come down and save them all..oh and did i mention fuck the rest of us.
whocares | 06.19.07 - 10:50 am | #
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There are no christian zionists. There are evil people of all religions that study perverted versions of talmud and caballah in an attempt to be illuminated (just like they read anton lavay and salmon rushdie-perverted islamic and catholic texts).

They may call themselves zionists,but they have no clue what the original mission of zionism was (in my earlier post). Just like they call themselves republicans but have no idea what the mission of the republican party is.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 11:00 am | #

Nice Link on "Disclosure project". Thanks. Seen one myself. Studied it 20 years now. Gotta tell ya, it ain't no hoax. Governments swapping tech with them. Now that's the big leagues, and the real game.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:48 am |
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When I was around 13 or 14 at the time (which is nearly 50 years ago) I was walking around in a wooded area near my boyhood home -- I came across a strange looking 'toy' that was near to a child's wagon in size (this thing had no wheels on it) -- it appeared to be two shades of a metalic substance, with a flat back on it that looked together like a 57-ford pick up truck // if there ever was such a thing. Kind of a sporty looking, otherwise large 'toy' that was definitely out of place being so far back in the woods like I was, that dawned on me at the time -- but that flat portion in the back was broken as I recall today // I was disappointed about that because I thought at the time it would have otherwise maybe made a good raft or something to maybe stand on while floating in the local pond near there. Took my step-dad back the next day to show him the thing and it was gone. Point is, all these many years since and I've never seen a 'toy' even close to resembling that thing that was broken in the woods. Actually, I don't believe it was any 'toy' at all -- You surely know what I think it was ...
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 10:58 am | #

Christians are few and far between. It is unfortunate that your cult of gentile Talmudists like to pretend you are 'Christians'.

JESUS
Rich | 06.19.07 - 10:57 am | #

I love Jewish people. People should not be racist, and the holocaust was a very bad thing. The Committee of 300 has virtually no Jewish members. And the Rothschild's, Bushes, and English royal family are not Jewish either. I wish people would quit diverting the truth and blaming Jews.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 10:57 am | #

kill him like they did sadat and rabin.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:36 am | #

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You and I both know he will fall into line or he will die. IT is the way they do business (NWO and their minions).
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:49 am | #
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barck is too much of an idealist like Ron Paul. He will never fall in line. The last 7 years of watching how much Israel is used has only stregthened his resolve (emboldened as chimpy would say).

Assassination is possible, but he has also had 7 years to more fully understand the way NWO does these things so I am sure hei being protected by true protectors of palestine and israeli lands. All over the world at least 10 of the JFK/MLK/RFK/Sadat/rabin/Gandhi/Lennon type plots have been thwarted.

Most of these things are set up by a small group of people ant it is now exposed how they plan these things. Just like the british POWs in Iran plotto bomb Iran had been thwarted.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:55 am | #

but the only reason the christion zionest want to insure isreals survival is because it has to be there like the bible says untill it gets destroyed and all the jews die or convert to christianity to become whole..this sounds like a messed up farry tail...but its not. these people are seeking prophacy as there screen play insureing its makeings not careing about anyone excpt there place in heaveing were there sins are resolved...and we get to live in the shit world they leave behind..what a crazy life
whocares | 06.19.07 - 10:54 am | #

Thanks Rich Alan King, and Rich Sane, I don't know either of you, but thanks for seeing that people should listen to me.

As expected..
Israelis begin with a orgy of terrorist acts in Iraq, to stir up a smoke screen, then while eveyone looks the other way, they plunge their tanks into Gaza to Holocaust the civilian Arabs.
Zews are like 2-bit street magicians, who fool no one.
Like now...
Fooled no one.
Only one thing to be done, MORE SMOKE...
name calling smoke..
king/sane/sockpuppet smoke...
There is no filth lower than the Israeli.
One for Paul and Paul for One.
May the war Gods pour out their blessings on the Palestinian freedom fighters.
May the ruin wrecks of Israeli tanks line up like parking lots.
May the festering bloated corpses of Israeli terrorists be feasted on by wild swine, for no buzzard would eat the feces that is zewish flesh.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 10:53 am | #

The waterboarded me Ron, and I gave you up. Will you forgive me? Now they are outside your place. Check the blinds.........
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:53 am | #

Yeah, that Rich Alan King is right; everyone should listen to Rich.
Rich Sane | 06.19.07 - 10:52 am | #

That Rich is so awesome; everyone should listen to him.
Rich Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:52 am | #

MICHAEL MOORE: 911 COULD BE AN INSIDE JOB

Why in the world is Alex Jones so against this guy is beyond me. Then again Alex is against anyone who knows as much if not more than he. I remember Alex slamming Moore over the fact that he didn't mention the fact that 911 was domenstic terrorism. My first thought on that matter was "maybe Michael Moore did not have all of the facts to confidently speak on the matter at that time" and maybe Alex should SHUTUP until Mr. Moore is made aware or finds out about what was really happening and what had really happened. Instead Alex went on his usual childish tirade against Moore (never minding the fact Moore had made many videos exposing governmental evils and laxity on many other matters and events) showing no more than a contemptuous side that exists in himself for anyone who seeks or exposes truth. The same attitude was taken up by Alex with Rosie Odonnel...He had a hate streak for her that was vile at best. After Rosie showed that she was aware of what was happening in regard to 911 and the US government as a whole...all of a sudden Alex became her bestest friend and was ready to become a lesbian himself and lick her armpits. Now he can't stop talking about her or supporting her.

This is something I have learned in life...UNTIL YOU KNOW ALL OF THE FACTS ABOUT SOMETHING OR SOMEONE...KEEP YOUR GOD DAMNED MOUTH SHUT, BECAUSE YOU WILL LOOK LIKE A FOOL AND A CONTRADICTORY PERSON LATER ON WHEN THE TRUTH IS REVEALED.

I hope you have learnned your lesson Alex!!!!

So far as Michael Moore goes...I am sure he will be another good spokes person working toward the good of exposing the wickedness of america and its government.
CHARLES | 06.19.07 - 10:50 am | #

Glenn Greenwald’s new book: A Tragic Legacy
By: John Amato @ 2:01 PM - PDT
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-tragic-legacy/
Glenn’s new book just hit Amazon and it’s already up to # 35 on the charts. Greenwald writes about it here…Amazon has a very good discount on the pre-orders right now…

You can pre-order a copy here…..Let’s drive this book to the top of the charts…

Update: It’s climbing…ranked # 12…
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:50 am | #

which I think is currently surrounded by the ATF.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:24 am | #

hope not! Maybe you should move to a safer place like NH.........
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:47 am | #

Iran has every right to use oil as a weapon.considering its been part of the big picture this whole time..well half the big piture...go on brother..hard times are a head...but that dosn't make it less right.
whocares | 06.19.07 - 10:37 am | #

Vote Ron Paul 2008 (ways to donate) --

https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 10:37 am | #

cnn is right now showing bush lying and olmert having to listen to it. Bush has no clue what is going on around palestine or israel. cheney gives the orders. olmert has to do this dog and pony show even though his days are numbered as israeli leader.barack is the future unless the cia kill him like they did sadat and rabin.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:36 am | #

Sane is an "information volcano". My sizemograph says he is getting ready to blow..........
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:35 am | #

Jbrid. Yep. The Disclosure Project was very important. Notice how the mainstream didn't even whisper it, despite the willing testimony of over 400 government officials and Airline pilots?
Try google videos "Phil Schnieder". You'll really love that. They killed him in Portland 1996 on Feb.10- my birthday! He was giving speeches about his work at Area 51, and other underground bases he designed. Shot two greys with his PK.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:38 am |
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Yes, exactly, I saw it some months ago // Very interesting and very believeable -- I remember the damage to his hand and his statement to have killed one alien, and the weapons battle (shoot out) that followed.

Here's something on The Disclosure Project for you that have no idea what this is all about:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay...&q=mexico% 2Bufo
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Change of Subject: RON PAUL
I watched those video clips provided by R.R.N --Nonintervention: The Original Foreign Policy
by Rep. Ron Paul
http://www.antiwar.com/paul/? art...articleid=11156
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 9:18 am

If you haven't watched those clips (a total of about 40 minutes or so -- make sure to adjust the volumn for each) please do so. They will give you a pretty good feel where this man (Ron Paul) is coming from. I was left with with a concern that $$ be sufficient to ensure this man's success if he is to be given any chance to fix the office we know has been (and will otherwise be) occupied by the wrong guy IF HE DOESN'T GET ELECTED.

We need to look deep down and send his campaign whatever $$ we can afford // not looking for (or asking any of you) to send more than you can financially afford -- I'm not associated with his campaign, just feel concerned -- but please do send HIM what you can afford: $5, $10, $20 (more if you have it) -- I'm sure it all adds up. It seems to be the KEY ELEMENT to help get the message out and give him (and us) a fighting chance -- until such time as he get's elected and can CHANGE the evil money grabbing tactics the others employ. We have to play their game until we can change the game.

Vote Ron Paul 2008 (ways to donate) --https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 10:35 am | #

Funny how they can report about the suicide bombers, but not stop them. Hmmmmm.......
They must think us pigs are almost fat enough for slaughter..........
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:33 am | #

Pretty good, Sane. I was wondering why the NWO would give Israel back their land. I figured it was cause of the publicity of the holocaust also. Truth is a rare commodity when liars run the whole show.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:30 am | #

Suicide Bomb Teams Sent to U.S., Europe
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...7_b_Suicide.htm

From article- "Comment: Guess we shouldn't be surprised when things start blowing up then huh?"
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Well with this information, if they make it inside the U.S., you will know it was an inside job.
EdQ | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:27 am | #

Dude, don't tell me you have no life. I AM THE KING OF NO LIFE. My luck is so bad you could bottle it and sell it to Al qaeda as a weapon! I lost my love, I lost my job, I'm losing my sanity, and all I have is you crazy guys and my shitty apartment, which I think is currently surrounded by the ATF.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:24 am | #

History of Zionism:

Jews were being treated as second class citizens throughout Europe, Asia, Middle East (to a much lesser extent). Particularly in Russia and Bavarian areas pogroms such as burning jewish villages, excluding property rights, etc. led the downtrodden people to look for alternative ideas to escape the systematic and generational hardships (similar to blacks in the US). The zionist movement began as a way to allow jews a "homeland" for which to escape this systematic and generational hardships.

The movement was quickly hijacked by illuminati (like the nation of Islam in the US and the KKK in the US) to make sure the movement had alterior effects. So although millions of jews became zionists throughout the world to assist in establishing a jewish state in 1948, very few of these zionists exist today as Israel is now a proxy state for the US.

The people of Israel are fed up with using US made DU bombs and tageting innocent Palestinian people. Their army is divided, their people are against many of the actions. Olmert has been forced to stay out of many entanglements as he has lost support of the majority and Barack is set to trake over as the new PM. He is the same peson that was insisting on de-occupying gaza and assisting in creating a palestinian state.

Sharon, like Bush won the election in 2000 by a contested and slim margin. Sharon is not a zionist (in the pure sense)but like Cheney a mass genocidal killer of life (even 2 wives and a son mysteriously died). He is now in a coma and I do not think he is much of a threat.

Illuminati use zionism as a way to show the shrewdness of the jewish people in an attempt to divert attention on their NWO plan.

They create this illogical and doublespeak proposition:

To stop the zionists (jews) we must join together internationally with no borders so that the zionists (jews) will never conquer the earth.

Now think about that and ask yourself who really wants to conquer the earth.

BTW they use the same argument about the blacks/muslims/asians/aryans/etc.

They also use the same fear argument about bird flue/global warming/aliens/etc.

They create an enemy then providethe solution for xonquering it: less rights and more taxes.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:23 am | #

Keeps things lively though, huh? We need to be "goosed" once in awhile. Keeps us from falling asleep at the keyboard. At least, this posting stuff is really improving my typing speed. There is a bright side to everything!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:21 am | #

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Yes ...the bright side of life. (monty python's flying circus)
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:23 am | #

"Zionists are not Jews"- I second that.

This might really ruffle some feathers, but the Jews are beloved by God, and are the chosen people. But we gentiles have an equal right to salvation as they, and to become God's children through Christ. So can the Jews.

There are good people and evil people in every race. I know. I have met alot of them. But evil people, the real evil ones, usually pretend they are good. Just like our politicians.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:07 am | #

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Although sometimes I differ with what you post on this subject, I could not have said it better.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:21 am | #

"Bring force of arms into a discussion group"
Keeps things lively though, huh? We need to be "goosed" once in awhile. Keeps us from falling asleep at the keyboard. At least, this posting stuff is really improving my typing speed. There is a bright side to everything!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:21 am | #

23 visitors? Wow. People are either really bored, or the truth is gaining in popularity.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:14 am | #

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20 now you went and scared some off
We just have no life...we are not of this world.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:19 am | #

23 visitors? Wow. People are either really bored, or the truth is gaining in popularity.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:14 am | #

Rich and Aron should get together over some coffee. I'd pay to see that one! (smile)
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:10 am | #

9-11 truther | 06.19.07 - 10:05 am | #

Are you overdoing it on the meds again this morning?
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:06 am | #

I should let you antisemitic schmucks know that I am A Jew A Zionist and heavily armed.
aaron
Zionists thnk they are better then rest of world and want to enslave the rest of world for themselves! They ALSO have murdered Jews alot of times! They think they have the right to own and rule the whole world! Look at fucking pure evil Satan worshipping David Rothchild! Or David Rockefeller! You bastards think the whole world is yours for the taking and making whole world your slaves, well your WRONG! The rest of us are NOT your Goddamn PAWNS or slaves!
9-11 truther | 06.19.07 - 10:05 am | #

how ZEWS have PERMISSION TO MURDER. And NOTHNG else.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 9:57 am | #

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I do not see a lot of that here.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:02 am | #

I'm English and German, Aron. A little Scottish and American Indian too. But I have had Jewish friends before. They are just normal people like the rest of us. So we are all a little different, so what? Italians are funny, and great for mob movies, and have awesome food. Mmmm........

More than 99% of the Jews on the planet and in all history have absolutely nothing to do with sophisticated global banking schemes.

Rich, you would have done a fine job as the guy who turned the wheel at the gas chambers in Auschwitz. Come on buddy, put a little love in your heart!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 10:01 am | #

I should let you antisemitic schmucks know that I am A Jew A Zionist and heavily armed.
aaron | 06.19.07 - 9:48 am
The ONLY anti-semitics are the Zionists! Zionists HAVE MURDERED THE JEWS TOO! Zionists RADIATED thousands of Jewish children! Zionists are the ones pure evil NOT Jews! And if some of you would NOT act like YOU rule the world and thing all including non Zionists are your slaves, there would NOT be a problem!
9-11 truther | 06.19.07 - 10:01 am | #

Hey Rich, look at my homepage to find out what I think about killing palestinian children. Then ask yourself, am I a COINTELPRO fool or will I contribute to this conversation with some facts, logic, links, evidence?

I hope you will find the right answer if you have any moral compass.
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 10:00 am | #

If the rich had to send their children into the wars that make them rich, there would be no more wars.

Oh well, such is life, right?.....Truth ever on the scaffold, Power ever on the throne.
aaron | 06.19.07 - 9:28 am | #

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Maybe I jumped in your shit prematurely....sorry if so.
I think you have fairly clear idea of how it works. Must of mistook what i read above...
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 9:59 am | #

LOL, I need 3min a day, to undo all your work that takes 24 hours. Principle called fixing the enemy. So outclassed. Toodles.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 9:58 am | #

You are not a racist. You just 100% of the time take the side of white gentiles who converted into Jews in their ongoing genocide of semites Palestinians, Arabs, and persians.

You are not a racist. you are anti-hate. Only umm err.... you EXCLUSIVELY blather about how ZEWS have PERMISSION TO MURDER. And NOTHNG else.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 9:57 am | #

Memories of a missed Repressentative. Her words were 5 years ahead of her time. I pray she makes it back to congress:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...ootfzAhAoU& NR=1
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 9:57 am | #

I'm not "pro Israeli". I am anti racism. The only bad races I know of are Reptilians and greys. This is a battle between good and evil, not skin tone or cultures.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:55 am | #

There is a SHORT LIST, of people who come in here, at ANY time of day, 7 days a week. Changing names each time you post is not fooling people. You are not smart enough. Like now.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 9:55 am | #

As expected..
Israelis begin with a orgy of terrorist acts in Iraq, to stir up a smoke screen, then while eveyone looks the other way, they plunge their tanks into Gaza to Holocaust the civilian Arabs.
Zews are like 2-bit street magicians, who fool no one.
Like now...
Fooled no one.
Only one thing to be done, MORE SMOKE...
name calling smoke..
king/sane/sockpuppet smoke...
There is no filth lower than the Israeli.
One for Paul and Paul for One.
May the war Gods pour out their blessings on the Palestinian freedom fighters.
May the ruin wrecks of Israeli tanks line up like parking lots.
May the festering bloated corpses of Israeli terrorists be feasted on by wild swine, for no buzzard would eat the feces that is zewish flesh.

King-sane, you need to spam again. People will see this.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 9:54 am | #

Which Jew are you talking to, Rich? I, for one, am not in the employ of any foreign government or intelligence agency. how about you, Gabriel?
aaron | 06.19.07 - 9:54 am | #

David Rockefeller Fears Ron Paul (video)

Informative 2 minute video pointing out the relationship between David Rockefeller's self-pronounced anti-American Council on Foreign Relations and top tier politicians from the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. A must see for all proud Americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- jTpQSLCq_Q
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 9:53 am | #

I should let you antisemitic schmucks know that I am A Jew A Zionist and heavily armed.
aaron | 06.19.07 - 9:48 am | #

Well not being one of the antisemetic schmuck, but one of the simple schumcks my question is, so? I got guns too....are we all going ot kill each other over a little bit of land that we all supposedly holdl saccred? WTF. Do you feel so threated that you need to bring force of arms into a discussion group?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 9:53 am | #

King, you are Sane. Everyone already knew that.
Rich | 06.19.07 - 9:53 am | #

What is an epithat?

I like Jews, you guys are ok with me. Who is really behind it all is the niggers!!! Have you ever read the "Protocols of Zulu"?
(smile)
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:52 am | #

Im curious, when your mission is to spread pro-Israeli disinformation, and every time you do, people comment about what a poor job you do, because everyone knows what you are doing...

are you doing a good job?
Rich | 06.19.07 - 9:52 am | #

Gabriel Alan King, you literally took the words right out of my mouth...well said.
aaron | 06.19.07 - 9:51 am | #

9/11 widows demand release of CIA's Inspector General report RAW STORY
Published: Monday June 18, 2007 http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ 91..._CIAs_0618.html

A group composed of widows of 9/11 victims are demanding the release of a key CIA report.

"The report, prepared by the CIA's inspector general, is the only major 9/11 government review that has still not been made publicly available."
Michael Isikoff reported in January. "When it was completed in August 2005, Newsweek and other publications reported that it contained sharp criticisms of former CIA director George Tenet and other top agency officials for failing to address the threat posed by Al Qaeda, as well as other mistakes that might have prevented the attacks."

In a statement obtained by RAW STORY, September 11th Advocates Patty Casazza, Monica Gabrielle, Mindy Kleinberg, and Lorie Van Auken write, "Almost six years have passed since the attacks of September 11, 2001, yet critical information continues to be withheld from the American public regarding the attacks.

"In 2002, after reviewing the evidence produced by the Joint Inquiry of Congress into the 9/11 Attacks, both Republican and Democratic Congressmen agreed that a CIA Inspector General review into individual responsibility was necessary," the statement continues. "Faced with the facts, these Congressmen understood that accountability in the Intelligence Community was crucial."

The 9/11 widows add, "Their intent was that a final declassified CIA/IG report be released to the public and where deemed appropriate by the report, for personnel at all levels to be held accountable for any omission, commission, or failure to meet professional standards in regard to the events of September 11, 2001. To date, despite enormous efforts from the Senate Intelligence Committee, nothing has happened."

Further excerpts from September 11th Advocates' statement:
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Michael Isikoff wrote in his January 2007 Newsweek article that, "When it [the CIA/IG report] was completed in August 2005, NEWSWEEK and other publications reported that it contained sharp criticisms of former CIA director George Tenet and other top agency officials for failing to address the threat posed by Al Qaeda, as well as other mistakes that might have prevented the attacks."

Isikoff goes on to say, "What's really behind the intelligence community's refusal to release the report, the senators suspect, is a desire to protect the reputations of some of the main figures."

Since sources and methods are not revealed in a declassified report, national security is protected and thus not an excuse for withholding this document. Since when does embarrassment meet any standard for keeping a government report secret? Isn’t it time for our elected and appointed officials to do the job that they were sent to our Nation’s Capitol for: to protect the public and not reputations?

Americans have the right to know that the problems identified in this report have been addressed and corrected. We have the right to know that competent people are serving us in strategic positions – our safety and security depends on it. Incompetence costs lives.

Legislation, co-sponsored by Senators Ron Wyden D-OR and Kit Bond R-MO, calling for the release of the 9/11 CIA/IG report, already exists, has passed the Senate and has strong bipartisan support. Yet, the White House and the CIA continue to refuse to release the already declassified version of the report.

It is sadly and abundantly clear that, once again, only heightened public pressure on the Administration and the CIA will force accountability. We call on the public and the press to demand the release of the declassified version of the 9/11 CIA’s Inspector General report.

Patty Casazza
Monica Gabrielle
Mindy Kleinberg
Lorie Van Auken
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 9:50 am | #

The ISRAELI AGENT, thinks Israel should be given a free ticket to rob and torture, and murder and steal? REALLY? REALLY?

The Israeli Agent thinks Israel gets a free pass to do anything????

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who could have ever seen that coming.

hahahaha
Rich | 06.19.07 - 9:50 am | #

Rich. Seems to me that Israel is a small nation, occupying very little land, in comparison to the vast lands surrounding them, occupied by warmongering Islamic fanatics. All everyone has to do is just leave Israel the fuck alone. But they never do, do they? The Arab kings are also rich because of the oil. I think the seed of "Ishmael" should be happy with what they have, and quit starting trouble with the children of "Isaac".
Your ravenous hatred of Jews is a dead giveaway. Sure you got all your conspiracy ducks in a row?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:49 am | #

Hey Gabriel Alan King, you are very funny guy when you are not hurling epithets at the unsuspecting.
I should let you antisemitic schmucks know that I am A Jew A Zionist and heavily armed.
aaron | 06.19.07 - 9:48 am | #

Martelle. You can call Alex live between 10 and 1 everday, or leave a message with his staff. The phone #'s are posted at www.infowars.com
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:41 am | #

Alex Jones: I am an RN with a great deal of knowledge in alternative healing therapies. I am NOT writing this note to you to make any money -- rather I am writing because I have some information that may be of great help to Aaron Russo. Aaron is such an incredible man for all he has done and is doing, and it would be a sad day in history if he were to lose the battle without having tried what I know of. I can't stress enough how I believe I could help him -- PLEASE HAVE HIM CALL ME: Martelle Green, RN (201) 825-3643. I would appreciate it if you would also call me to let me know that you at least got this message... I don't know how else to reach you! THANKS!!!
MDG, RN | 06.19.07 - 9:31 am | #

Exert from "Anatomy of a rant" by Dr. T Weldon Snodgrass

Chp.5, pg 121 "A true rant, one that holds promise, and wishes to hold itself lofty above contention, and the oppressive gravities of conventional reasonings, must in and of it's own accord, consume no less than the entire comment page, and then some, to even be considered. Any lesser monologue, that is presumptously bestowed the "knighthood" of a legitimate rant, must be minimized in stature and firmly deposed in the courts of civil conscience. Lest the Guild of the wordsmiths forget their posterity, and give sway to inevitable tomfoolery."
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:30 am | #

Being a realist, i see what is going on in the world and don't try to spin it, politically or religiously. I know what the Christian Bible says about loving your enemies; yes, He loved them even as he hung on the cross and died. And i have read Ghandi, Martin Luther King and Thoreau, so i am aware of active non-violent resistance which, over time, seems to hold the most promise as a concrete way to resist and oppose the powers of domination and criminality. But i have also read Machiavelli, Mao and Che Gueverra and know how this world is won and lost.
You might want to fight fire with fire, but for God's sake don't try fighting it with gasoline.
Violence only breeds more violence---but if you accept that fact, then, the choice is a matter of free will. Some of us are just more comfortable with using violence against the predators; others desire a more humane approach. The latter fails for me because i see that the wicked only understand their own methods of violence. But I know deep down inside that active non-violence takes much more strength of character than returning violence for violence.
It is the easiest thing in the world to return violence for violence, blow for blow....I do it alot. But forgiveness in the midst of the violent offense? I confess, I am at a loss to understand how to pull that one off.
Again I have to confess, i like the sound of automatic weapons firing; i like the feel of a S&W 45 auto in my hand, the weight at my hip or under my arm. i like violence, that is why i joined the military. But once you have seen what happens to the human body in a war zone, it becomes harder and harder to justify. When it is a dead child you hold in your arms, there is no longer any search for justification, only a sort of desperate pleading for forgiveness and some kind of understanding of why a dead child is necessary? Why are a hundred thousand dead children necessary?
That being said, i know that the way i have chosen will not appreciatively change much in this world...a few more dead people in a world of dead and dying people, so what does it matter?
Really, what does it matter? In combat there is the temptation to think you are capable of doing anything and that the rules don't apply anymore. but then the combat is over and you have to live with the memories of your conduct.
The war in Iraq is screwing up an entire generation of young americans, just as Vietnam did to an earlier generation. I think they should bring back the draft with no exceptions or deferments for anyone, whether dad makes ten thousand dollars or ten million dollars, if you are between the age of eighteen and twenty-five, Iraq is in your future.
If the rich had to send their children into the wars that make them rich, there would be no more wars.
I am not complaining, mind you, I inlisted and actually like my job; but i am seeing the futility in this way of thinking and living. Yet, compared to the rest of the world and what is going on in it, what else can we do?
I am probably on the wrong website for this but i like what i read here as it voices many of the questions i have had since that september day. I love my country, even my government, but i do not love the"neo-con fascists"(what a great label) that are too chickenshit to fight for their country but have no problem sending others to do it for them. They are the ones who should be suiting up.
Oh well, such is life, right?.....Truth ever on the scaffold, Power ever on the throne.
aaron | 06.19.07 - 9:28 am | #

THe worst president America has ever had.

He does not deserve money and gifts with all the evil
harm he and his father have done to Iraq and also to America.

Empeachment is the only gift he will receive, once the people have had enough.

Shamefull to see such a bad mind be supported by other evil minds
Samual | 06.19.07 - 9:24 am | #

Nonintervention: The Original Foreign Policy

by Rep. Ron Paul

http://www.antiwar.com/paul/? art...articleid=11156
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 9:18 am | #

GAK -- I'm not afraid to say that I also believe in UFO and otherwise 'alien' life elsewhere in the universe. To think otherwise seems to me to be a lack of common sense, very (extremely) narrow understanding. Period.

Are you aware of The Disclosure Project? A group of well-educated former government employees (mostly) that met days before 9/11 and intended to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that UFO's and alien life exist. Some very interesting stuff here. Some 'bibilical' references for you so inclined // which I find very fascinating. UFO's been visiting us for many many years -- some even mentioned right there in that Bible that some try to use to disprove the subject. Amazing!

Change of Subject:
From a link provided by another Poster --
*** the Browns, who say they will pay all the taxes the government claims they owe, if the IRS shows them the law that makes them liable.
_______________
This is promising to be VERY interesting and VERY important when it comes to our IRS and normal way our government conducts business as usual. Am personally fFollowing this very closely for all kinds of reasons.
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 9:17 am | #

Many may use the recent arrest of pedephiles as an excuse to control the internet.....I say this shows the value of an uncontrolled internet...otherwise they may never have been caught. Keep the internet unregulated and use reasonable search warrants as a tool of finding these predators. Otherwise, they go so underground to the extent that they are more difficult to stop.
Jeremy Lynes | 06.19.07 - 9:17 am | #

If Ron Paul wins, he seems the best chance the Democrats have of passing a time tabled Iraq withdrawal plan.
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 9:11 am | #

“Will a Democrat President veto Iraq withdrawal bill?” (and Ron Paul ?)

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/ne...php? newid=12726
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 9:10 am | #

All this climate stuff is in The Report From Iron Mountain. The environmental agenda is laid bare, along with terrorism and wars.

The fact that the Royal Society and Al Gore are peddling it should be enough for anyone to see the truth.

Watch The Great Global Warming Swindle.
Doug | 06.19.07 - 9:09 am | #

Jbrid. David Icke is cool. I love that guy. I think he is telling the truth. Michael Tsarion and Jordan Maxwell also know alot too. I value all these mens wisdom. I am a self taught Christian, but I also believe in UFO's and aliens and stuff. And other dimensions, and more stuff than I care to list. Life is big, and more than meets the eye.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:09 am | #

Michael Moore ? Well, I'm glad Alex is waking up to the orchestrated mess we're in. I would investigate if Thermate was the ingredient that took the floors down inside the Trade Towers. The Fed's have always used smear campaigns; that started even before JFK. Yep, you can't have a war without enemies anyway.

Now, about income taxes; if you sign a W-4, you have to pay income taxes.
Gator | 06.19.07 - 9:08 am | #

The time isn't far where people of planet earth will free themselves from the evil cabal's income taxes.

Good hard working people robbed by the feds with income taxes such a shame

Evil cabal watch out for your time is up
Samual | 06.19.07 - 9:06 am | #

So What Really Happened Here?

(QUOTE) “The one thing that every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished with the guarantee of their well-being, granted to them by their world government.”
— Henry Kissinger, at the Bilderberg Conference in Evians, France, 1991

http://911exposed.org/ReallyHappened.htm
***EXTRACT***
Finally, the Bush-Cheney Administration and their 9/11 Commission are kindly asking you to:

Ignore all evidence that contradicts their story.
Don’t read “Northwoods”.
Ignore those “pesky” war games, especially Almagam Virgo of June 2001.
Listen only to their witnesses.
Believe NORAD was a bunch of “idiots”.
Believe everyone in the government during 9/11was incompetent.
Understand that the system failed, and we need to invest billions to repair it.
Understand that a legitimate 9/11 investigation would be a bad idea for this country.
Say again and again — “Bin Laden did it! … Bin Laden did it!”
Be patriotic, and remember patriotism = “no questions”.
Help them in their “War of Terror”, support the fight in Iraq — to steal oil for the record profiteering oil companies.
Be afraid.
“Trust us”, because “Big Brother” knows best!

…Carlyle Airlines, the CIA, FBI, George Walker Bush, and al-Qaeda wish you a pleasant flight!
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 9:03 am | #

Browns say they will either walk free, or die

http://www.unionleader.com/artic...82- 1fb5dc2f6306
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 9:03 am | #

The four pillars of a legitimate rant.

#1 The rant must be lengthy, and emotionally charged

#2 At some point, the rant most contain at least one slip, innapropriate comment, or a profanity.

#3 The rant must make some sense, but must also lack some reason.

#4 The rant must end in a mighty "Crescendo", wherein the ranter proclaims his total disgust, and concedes the rant in exhaustion.

To score the rant. Each category is respected and scored individually. Points are scored in each category based on frequency, and intensity. The judges panel shall approve the final score, and give a follow up cretique. The judges panel consists of whoever happens to be present on the comment page during, and following the rant.

Yearly, the "Rant Awards" shall award first, second, third place, and honorary mentions. Famous ranters shall host the ceremony, and present the awards. Like Dennis Leary.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 9:02 am | #

Ruby Ridge leader visits Browns, warns of increased provocation
By Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer | June 18, 2007

http://www.boston.com/news/local...? p1=MEWell_Pos4
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 9:01 am | #

Is Federal Income Tax Constitutional?
Tax Protesters Say Government Cannot Collect Income Tax

http://www.wmur.com/news/1352340...407/ detail.html
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 8:59 am | #

An Also-Ran in the GOP Polls, Ron Paul Is Huge on the Web

By Jose Antonio Vargas
Washington Post Staff Writer

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 8:55 am | #

oh hello mister moderator.. can you please limit page width to 800 ? this page is WIDE and side scrolling constantly to read is very annoying to me.
Sees Things | 06.19.07 - 8:51 am | #

Anthrax scare briefly closes ABC News office this one has me stumped who might be doing this and why???
tom | 06.19.07 - 8:51 am | #

DO you have any cites fr this information?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 6:55 am | #

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
Its insider information, heard it first hand from senior management on the day. Initially I thought it was to watch out for other planes but it stuck in my mind. Why only the East coast, we don't operate there, so it must have been a broadcast message. Why only the East coast? I have tried to find out more details of when exactly it was requested. maybe someday I'll get a reply. Everyone seems to have skipped analysing the satelitte data. But someone thought it was important on the day. It could have been an effective 'stand down', the industry can do something similar on request called 'data denial' , it happens a lot over Iraq, data covering an area is blanked out and not transmitted.
Not Given | 06.19.07 - 8:47 am | #

Okay GAK -- I understand that. If we're talking occult interest in the motivations of the bag guys here, I agree in part with that. Understanding the Bible is not an easy (or timely) task // People have been getting together for many long years now trying to do just that very thing. But it seems that some start (with good intentions, I understand that) but it doesn't take long before one or two thinking they have the biblical answers (like Benny Hinn diciples and such) start with the bible language talk and, to be 100-percent honest with you, it just turns me off and I find I really don't have any desire to contibute to such nonsense. It becomes a circle wherein things that never have a solution are tried and tested, but there again, end in no solution. Am I making in sense? I'm not sure.

Sorry to get off subject like this, but I do enjoy discussing the occult take on the evil that is surely behind the bad guys here. Skull and Bones (322) and the real sicko things they do in their secret gatherings is of great interest. Their Satanic worship speaks directly to the god they worship, no question about any of that.

But instead of quoting Job or Moses or some such over and over again -- Let's take a look at what David Icke has to tell us on the subject. That seems much more current and more applicable, I think.

The evil that pulled 9/11 are true evil -- and that makes it EASY to understand, I think. Whatever they say -- believe just the opposite. Question everything because we already KNOW they are going to pile lie on top of lie, all the while picking our pocket ($$) and smiling as they stab us in the back. That's the easy part to understand. Looiking at the facts that prove their involvement and making sense out of that -- now that's entirely a more difficult task. Equally important, but important, nevertheless.

Enough from me, I know.
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 8:46 am | #

Sane's sockpuppets now love and thank himself..

hahahahahaha

He even masturbates here.

All your different names loves you... who could have guessed
Rich | 06.19.07 - 8:44 am | #

GovTrack.us Independently Tracking the United States Congress excelent web site see what your crooked leaders have done and are doing it is worse than i thought and i think poorly of all the crooked lying stealing murdering greedy bastards
tom | 06.19.07 - 8:34 am | #

Jbrid. Me and Baldman rebuke the likes of Benny Hinn, and all other 501c3 fake money grubbing preachers. Which is about 97% of the Christian pastors in the USA.
Me and Baldman are self taught Christians.
And in order to understand the occult influences of our enemies, it is first important to understand the Bible.
No matter. Mini rant.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:31 am | #

We are all "comment heroes". I salute you all, for your tireless and dedicated service. Especially Sane.

It hurts me to say this, but Cougar turned in his wings, and I have to send Sane and Goose to "Top Gun". The finest academy for truther education in the country.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:26 am | #

See Ron Paul Wednesday

http://www.freeliberal.com/blog/...ives/ 002812.php
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 8:23 am | #

BALDMANACE -- Thank you for your polite reprimand.

I seriously didn't realize that this was a forum for discussion of morality as much as it was a discussion for specific 9/11 related matters. I'm not joking, I thought that. Looks I may have stumbled into the wrong forum.

I would like to offer that I can distinguish to some degree Right From Wrong and that the morality issues of 9/11 were ALL definitely in the category of Wrong. But then to belabor that point about how Wrong it was without offering constructive criticism seems like a Tent Revival to me more than a look-see at the tricks and lies and scientific approach to understanding what happened to us.

I agree with what you say, certain small groups do tend to discuss similar takes on 9/11, some do so in more detail than others BUT I seriously believe that it is time to separate ourselves from Bible thumping and start thumping heads. Love thy neighbor because it's commanded and love they neighbor even though he/she killed thousands of us -- seems to me to DEMAND separation, at least an evaluation as to why it happened. Understanding bible concepts is one thing but processesing information that is of the magniture of today's reality and relying on the likes of Benny Hinn (and others of like-minded intentions) to do that translating for me and make any sense out of it for me (for us) seems like a road to nowhere. I put my trust in no one, not like that. Man lies -- period. Man is confused no matter how much he tries to explain to others his take on matters -- period. Religion is much like politics // It goes on and on without end and without answer. Much of it is left to individual beliefs, trust.

Well, I think it is time to separate us from those that would go willingly to their deaths without fight because some want to have us believe it's the Christian thing to do. I say it's Psyops, a way nothing short of exercising more control over us as sheep to slaughter. Wake up, America.

9/11 happened in 2001. And OKC happened in 1995. Let's focus more on those more recent times than getting lost in the past and in a study that takes us nowhere but a complete circle. I am not saying abandon religious concepts -- Just get off the subject and realize that there are far more than just a select few individuals that want to discuss the intricate workings of the Bible and what motivates man to be evil. Evil exist and we know it -- Let's find them and prosecute them legally. Sorry, I got on a rant like this.

But my friend, you are suggesting something that I already know. And personally, I don't find those other posters you suggested I wait for to be particularily all knowing either. There discussions do tend to be far more on subject and far more of interest than the Wall of Jericho. No offense.
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 8:23 am | #

Historical Ron Paul Footage

http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007...n-paul-footage/
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 8:21 am | #

Dig hard baldman. And if you find any buried treasure, whack it up with me.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:21 am | #

"Keyboard patriots" Good one, Jake. Come back soon bro.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:19 am | #

Charlotte Ron Paul Meetup

http://www.charlotteconservative...on-paul-meetup/
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 8:19 am | #

adou
all
gabo
i will see you in yankton
long live the republic
death to the nwo
"I'll be back"
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:19 am | #

Ron Paul Rules YouTube and Internet

http://www.transworldnews.com/ Ne...et=Default.aspx
R.R.N. | 06.19.07 - 8:16 am | #

Tom. "International Guard?" I can see the truthers are in full good humor today!!!!
Thanks for the smile, bro. That was a good one. I should have thought of that........
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:15 am | #

if you did your homework and applied the knowledge of study into the law of this land (the constitution)
it in itself is just as you say
but used in its original intend and congruency is a pure extention of Jesus Words and The entire Biblical text
as well as supporting liturature
jake?
i put the criminal elite on notice in Christ's Name whether you approve or not
they have my cheeks, they have my prayers and my blessings along with a edict:
" confess, surrender, and leave now"
"go rethink your life"
we the people are demanding our republic back immediately
however Christlike you want it to be
that is our demands becuse you are satanists
and this country is not satanists it is christians
so relinquish your stolen proprty and goods
pack a napsack
and get the flock out today
jake
if you dont like it
then you can get the flock out too
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:15 am | #

ok------i have said my share and now i shall depart for warmer climes.

thanks for the experience of allowing me to freely express my thoughts and ideas here on your comment board.

i will fight for the US Constitution but i will not kill for it. if that isn't good enough for you keyboard patriots, well, that is just how it is.

i knew an army drill instructor who had very sensible advice..."forget all the bullshit, stay low and keep moving."

keep moving forward, keep resisting the principalities and powers, the rulers of darkness of this present world, and spiritual wickedness in heavenly places.

Evil cannot be destroyed be evil; only love can destroy evil, if Jesus knows what He is talking about, that is.

Aloha from the kealakekua hawaii...the sun is coming up pretty soon, time for surf.
jake | 06.19.07 - 8:14 am | #

Alex Jones finest work "End Game" to be released in September. Ha! We are storming the gates!!!!!

I can hear the Rothschild's now........

"Wallace has sacked York!" (Strong English accent)
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:08 am | #

that is why this is america i can speak my mind any f-time i waNT
tom | 06.19.07 - 8:08 am | #

nathional guard demacrats should be fired or at least try to change the name to international guard
tom | 06.19.07 - 8:06 am | #

Morning Sane, it seems you have been personally offended by my comments, and I hope you realize that was not my intention.

I said I wouldn't beat a dead horse any longer so I'll just addresss your comment and let it go.

Again, all I meant was that in you posting so much info it probably over whelmed any newbie that wanted to join in the conversation, that was really ALL I meant. Sorry you took it personally, I guess that is always a risk when one speaks their mind like I did and shows no partiality to ANYONE they feel they speak their thoughts to.

I am quite able to scroll down and find my posts, again I was thinking of the average newbie, how do they percieve this board and do they feel they have a chance to join in. Honestly I was not speaking for myself, it has nothing to do with being lazy, believe me I am active not only on many boards outside of here, but in my daily life speaking to any and everyone, on the radio, and anywhere else I can have an honest dialogue with whomever wishes it. I also put alot of effort into my own personal life as I can to try and mold my immediate surroundings and circle of influence into something that I feel is valuable.

Once again sorry you took my comments for personal criticism, really it was hardly that. I don't disagree with anything you post, in fact I think we have had some good exchanges and are probably on the same page.

So once more to sum up, and I'll just leave it at that, at the risk of possibly offending you one more time (again NOT my objective), it's like listening to a band where perhaps all one hears is the drummer doing a 3 day drum solo or the symphony where one ony hears one or two instruments it MIGHT be overwhelming to some and cause them to turn the entire music off. Perhaps it's NOT as I think maybe newbies don't really respond like this, but just something to think about, that is how it seemed to me (and a few others as I read their comments).

So once again, I enjoy much of your info, it IS informative, and it DOES seem truthful, I only questioned if it was helping others to find truth or driving them away. Just something to ask yourself, again I only have MY perspective and I wanted to share the question with you so you could answer it yourself.

Ok enough about that for me, please carry on, and to all who share truth as best they can I salute you and that means you Sane and GAK and TOL and all others I just wanted to share my small perspective and now I'll let it rest.

Perhaps as I suggested Alex or whomever will think about redesiging the message board along the lines of other message boards that show all the threads in a logically laid out format that keep things from becoming to jumbled up and keep the different threads seperate and well organized and user friendly. Just a thought.

Carry on TRuthers and AGAIN I salute you for your efforts and for what I perceive is your HONEST intentions to try and maintain an INFORMED populace. This as we all know is absolutely essential in a REpublic that wants to maintain Democratic principles.

Regards all,
T.A.
This American | 06.19.07 - 8:06 am | #

Jake. If you really believed you could pray us around prophecy, then I assume you would do your "forty days and forty nights" in the wilderness in prayer to bring it about.

No insult, but maybe Jesus way of fighting this is many ways. We are not perfect like him, nor as powerful. "Greater things than this ye shall do", and I have yet to see or hear of any man doing greater things than Jesus. I still can't walk on water with out a surfboard.

But I encourage you to stay strong in your faith, and to pray for whatever your heart is moved to pray for.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 8:05 am | #

According to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon sounds like mikey mouse brother
tom | 06.19.07 - 8:04 am | #

jbrid
please
all of our republic issues are Christ and morality issues
if you want posts and news and links then wait for sane and true lies and biggs
we are here to discuss the word of God because that is what this republic was founded on and built upon
the two cannot be seaparated
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 8:02 am | #

Suicide Bomb Teams Sent to U.S., Europe are supplied by the us and the un
tom | 06.19.07 - 8:02 am | #

what i have counseled is that we do it Jesus's way and not our own way.
What is wrong with that?
jake | 06.19.07 - 7:54 am | #

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Nothing is wronbg in that. But please come to realize that even those of us that love Jesus do so in our own way and would perfer not to hear so often wherein it (He) becomes the single topic of discussion (sorry to tell you like this) YOUR TAKE on the same man we all love, or should love.

Be a good christian but realize that not everyone want's to hear Bible thumping over and over until it becomes the main focus. Real life invovles keeping Jesus close to us but also demands that we eat and drink and be merry (best we can) -- and when any of that becomes hindered (as in 9/11) THEN it's time to do something to fix that -- and the sooner the better. If you want to think of yourself as Jesus knocking heads together and throwing all the $$ changers out of the Lord's Temple -- then so be it. But do so with an inner voice and smile knowing what you are doing is the right thing. Come to understand that some people turn off the subject when it gets too loud and/or too much.

Have I said too much?
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 8:01 am | #

Jeb Bush is also stealing kids in Florida.
www.freeourkids.com
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:58 am | #

@ chris jones
Take a break, review and reflect, but do not giveup (in)
We need all the support we can get, in any way.
Try and find a form in which you can continue to 'the resistance

I know i havent realy found mine yet, but i wont give up .
lww | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:58 am | #

thanks for making my point
jake
even when Jesus Himself was here with His disciples and they were versed in old testament
did they question and ponder and sometimes argue
i will be the imp
like Jesus when He rebuked peter
or paul
when he slapped that dude blind
(i love that one)
paul in hell for doing that?
i doubt it
i aint judging you bro
except what you add to this forum
you may not know who your enemies are?
i dont know you at all
so dont assume to remedy my blog life with your superior Jesus quoting ability
you will do fine as far as I know
your fight is not with me
but dont spout sciot here without expecting to get a full rsponse or rebuttel or refute to what you type
i am not governed by your knowledge of the scripture nor you mine
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 7:57 am | #

Seeing as how we are currently the majority, J, I think it is you who is "off topic".

But just to appease you. "Bringing them to justice"
How about we start here- www.TedGunderson.com
or google videos "Ted Gunderson"
or "JohnDeCamp"
or "Cathy O'Brien"
or "Micheal Aquino"
or "Church of Satan"
or "Mike Ruppert"
or "Phil Schnieder"
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:56 am | #

Baldmenace--never have i counseled bowing down to the nwo or the neo-con fascists currently running this country. what i have counseled is that we do it Jesus's way and not our own way.
What is wrong with that?
jake | 06.19.07 - 7:54 am | #

"You have mixed fantasy with Dogma and created the mixed berry pie of futility."
That was so good I almost rolled off my chair in tears!!!! Your on fire today, buddy.
Like Benny Hinn says, "This is your day!"

Don't take it foul Jake, we all hack on each other here sometimes.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:52 am | #

Okay, it's happening anyway, even I contributed a line or two (not bibilical scripture) but gave my $.02 on the subject of religion.

Look at the number of Postings that followed you guys and your take on God. Nothing wrong in that, so please don't misunderstand, but --

Why not put a bit more of that same passion (energy) into trying to bring the truly guilty to justice in this land? Why not do that and leave the bible quoting to those with good intentions but unaware that when it's raining -- it's time to seek cover. We need to always keep God close to us but at the same time to start saying 'love thy enemy' // I mean at least use common everyday language and say 'love your neighbor' (not your neighbor's wife, just your neighbor, and be a bit careful doing that -- sorry a bit of humor snuck in there and probably shouldn't have.)

Get off the subject of religion, please, it serves nothing more than a diversion, and irritates when one should rightfully be discussing the tactics of our enemy and knowing who that enemy is. I think. Save religion to church settings and beer drinking sessions. Other than that, please try and keep on topic, at least what most would consider to be the main topic of this forum.
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 7:52 am | #

Hey folks, I gotta run back to doing my work. I just wantto say that I appreciate the various points of view I see posted here. Even whenI disagree with the points it make me think! The disinformation shit is a little scary but the honest arguments are welcome...otherwise we will not come up with the answer or set of answers we neeed! Thanks.
PEace
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:51 am | #

Sorry Ron, that last post jake | 06.19.07 - 7:45 am | #

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No worries.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:48 am | #

Sorry if you feel attacked here Jake. I know that prayer is powerful. And we consider you a friend and ally. We all don't agree on everything here, but that doesn't matter too much. We are all on the same side. None of us know anything for certain, we are just taking our best guesses based on our experiences, and information.
Like I said, if you choose to resist in other ways, I won't condemn you. Or even say your wrong. I might say your wrong if you say stuff I don't agree with, but that doesn't make us enemies.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:45 am | #

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Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:47 am | #

jake?
Christ was addressing a Israelite problem
they had become so inundated with bogus application of the law that they were using it to gain against their own neighbors amd family
it was a sespool of backbiting and quoting moses to take anothers life and or wealth
was Jesus a slave to rome?
did He submit to rome?
yes
did He change rome?
yes
His sacrifice was the ultimate dissent
if you oresent me with your grociery list of loving sacrifices for the gospel
then i see your scripture quoting and i raise you a atta boy
you are on a "rebuilding forum" telling us what
submit to the satanic rule of your land?
bow to the nwo and take the chip?
bless the criminal leadership to go and kill more children?
pray for our rogue scum elite politicians to mind control some more sex slaves?
turn our cheek to the man that just sodomized our children and then sacrificed them to molech?

you have mixed fantasy with dogma and created the mixed berry pie of futility

you apply your interpretations and theology to a life spent hiding from the truth of your inheritance

most people are afraid to step up in any way to the responsibility of their calling

practice what you preach and you should be in prison in less than a week or you will be the next ghandi either way prison, tortured for Christ's sake, put to death and counted amongst the martyrs for Christ
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 7:47 am | #

Sorry Ron, that last post was to baldmenace but i forgot to address it to him.
Hey baldy, here's the other cheek, now haul off and take a good hard swing, you know that is what you are really about.
Your words are very cutting but i bleed without pain.
Since you reject Jesus' dominion over you and over this world, what is your solution for the coming hell?....gee, maybe we could go out and kill everything that moves, that would at least get rid of the bad guys.
jake | 06.19.07 - 7:45 am | #

While Ron abides in LA, God shall not destroy it. Your a good man, Ron. So is Jake, but his peace button is blocking out the sunlight making it impossible to see the Constitution, or the whole word of God. But he means well.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:38 am | #

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Gabriel it is always good to hear your virtual voice...I appreciate your laud and all your words for that matter. I know that at the core we agree on much. As you know I would walk the road of passive resitence with Jake if it were only my sorrows I had to bear, butI can not walk over the bodies of children and reamin passive! Thanks for being here and posting your views!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:45 am | #

You all do what you think is right, that is only natural; but don't be telling me what to do with my life when you don't even know me or what i am involved in.
Prayer, true prayer, is anything but passive. It seeks to attack and destroy the very foundations of evil strongholds inthis world.
Only those who never pray think prayer is weak or ineffectual.
Only people with no faith find it so hard to allow anyone else to have true faith.
jake | 06.19.07 - 7:38 am | #

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Jake I would never assume to tell you how ot live. As I said I am not God, I am jus tdoing the best I can with what I have got infront of me. I hope you can do the same! You sound like a true and pssionate man.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:40 am | #

It's one thing to "turn the other cheek" in a stupid quarrel between fellow brethren. It's quite another thing to let an evil man rape your wife or daughter, or trample over your dignity while he laughs.

Like I said, just weights and balances. DISCERN RIGHTLY.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:35 am | #

baldmenace, what a spiteful little imp you sound like.
jake | 06.19.07 - 7:34 am | #

Bravo.
Blueglow | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:34 am | #

Baldmenace---i am doing what Jesus has told me to do; witness for the faith that was delivered to me. if i counsel loing your enemies, why does that draw out wrath from people?
jake | 06.19.07 - 7:25 am | #

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Cause it is damn hard to love your enemies! As a follower of Christ you will be attacked and scorned...I do not think that your view is far from mine; however, I am not the Christ and therefore when I see the pain of the innocents I can not alleviate it nor abide it. I will die for my believes (in the end I am sure I will have ht opportunity to find out) and I will kill for the safety of the innocent..... If I had my way I would do neither...but the world is wicked. I have slowly come to see there is a time to fight...we are men not God.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:33 am | #

it is simply because you are spoiled like spoiled little rich brad regardless of age or heritage or wealth
you have never lived under a tyrrants rule
you have never been a black slave whipped by a despotic master
you and all like you in your heart live hypothetically
so dont high horse against hypothetical questions
you live in a purely mythological rhealm of using the scriptures to escape your Godly duty to do what is right
lazy and mind controlled to do nothing
your love is a empty broken vessel
leaked from corrosion from the inside
not fortified by justice, honor, liberty, or sacrifice
you would seemingly fight against a brother who would defend you and lay down his life for you
you share not Christ nor His gift of salvation
and i may only be speaking metaphorically
so you dont have to accomodate this forum with a response
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 7:32 am | #

Jake, we do love our enemies, and have prayed for them. But where does a Christian draw the line. Satanic child mutilation? Genocide? Child rape and murder? Mind control? Mutiny against the people? Absolute lies and theft?

Was Job not a righteous man? Did he not smite the jaw of the wicked, and pluck the spoil from his teeth?

And what of Isaiah 58? "Is not this the fast that I have chosen?"
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:31 am | #

What does turn the other cheek mean? His phrase, not mine.
What does return not evil for evil mean? His phrase, not mine.
Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, and do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you.

Again, these are His words, not mine.
jake | 06.19.07 - 7:30 am | #

"heavenly rubick's cube of infinite spiritual wisdom."
That was totally awesome. I gotta catalog that one in the archives.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:27 am | #

Like I said, Jake. I am not condemning you for your point of view. God does listen to prayer, and saves people all the time. I realize your thankfulness, and humbleness to God.
But many times in life, good men, many of the Old Testament, also prayed to God to deliver the enemy into their hand. And God did. And they would consult God before going to war.
God commanded the Israelites to be brave, and strong, and to utterly destroy the peoples before them in the promised land. Because these people were evil.
Coward of the county. "Sometimes you have to fight, to be a man."- Kenny Rogers
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:24 am | #

if you are a christian (with your theology) jake and all like you in mind and spirit
then america is wrongy from the beginning
you know this because you read the scripture
you are here passively enjoying the freedom to worship God as it was given you by men that fought and died since before 1776
you enjoy the freedom that you do not fight for yourself nor endorse with your heart
you are a oxymoron inside of a empty religeous shell fo a hoax of a christian picture
you are neither willing to pack your schiot and go somewhere else where your views are more styled to apathy of scripture quoting
you do not present yourself brought before the magistrate to give an account of your beliefs
and you site My Lords interpersonal and spiritual conotations and biblical passages like you just solved the heavenly rubiks cube of infinite spiritual wisdom
use your logic and stand as the two witnesses and take one for the team
you are preaching to the choir in regards to loving our enemies
but there is binding to do on earth and in heaven
do you know that one?
there are money changers to cast out by the whip
do you read that scripture?
God is no respector of persons?
so if Jesus can smite with the rod of iron? are we not to be like Christ?
vengance is mine says The Lord?
so I am a joint heir?
judge sin is my personal business
defending the innocent is my job
making the way straight for the second coming of Christ is our commission
to preach the Gospel and Truth
if you have a specific job to do then state it
state it clearly
what has God told you to do personally?
jake?
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 7:21 am | #

10 AD. I don't know why, but that made me smile. Nice, Jbrid.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:18 am | #

GAK--you really are an idiot. i don't answer hypotheticals becasue they don't exist but in someone's head.

And again, i posted direct quotes, not my interpretations.

The first time i faced death was surfing on the north shore of Oahu back in the seventies when i was a teenager. We were out on a eight to ten foot day at Chun's Reef when a freak swell hit the entire north shore at between fifteen and twenty feet--waves as big as three-story buildings. i lost my board and got pulled into the whitewater "zone". I swam below these huge waves as they passed over then swam hard up to the surface to get air and then down underwater again when the next wave passed. It was like being a rag doll in a washing machine, absolutely no control over the situation, just praying as hard as i could to stay alive. i got picked out of the water by a coast guard helicopter after about twenty minutes of swimming in twenty foot chop.
More than a dozen people were rescued by the Coast Guard and the local lifeguards; two people drowned that same day. Why did i live and someone else die that day in the same huge waves?
i lived only becasue this is how God wanted it; He is a good God and does not desire the people He created to destroy either themselves or their neighbors. My life was spared by the mercy of the Lord; knowing that, how could i ever feel i was worthy of judging another man and sentencing him to death?
jake | 06.19.07 - 7:18 am | #

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing."- Edmund Burke

If only people like you represented Christianity on Earth, then our history would only be a long dark trail of constant rape, servitude, degredation, and murder for pleasure, without consequence.

For every evil person, or tare, we kill, the world becomes a better place. Simple logic.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:08 am | #

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I am not advocating for violence in general; however, there are certain things that are against God and Humanity that we can not abide. Raping of children or adults can not be accepted at any level. Murder can not be accepted....etc. Therefore we round the basturds (yes I meant turd) and through themin a hole...let God strike them down, we can contain them. Sorry for butting in.
Best to you all!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:17 am | #

People can talk about whatever they want. It's called freedom of speech. We need differing opinions here, not just the speculations of atheists and humanists. Men who believed in God created the Constitution, and this great country, whether you believe it or not. The fruit of the original Constitution is good, and therefore it was clearly written by good men.

"The Bible is the book upon which this republic rests."- Andrew Jackson, 7th president of the United States.

And Alex Jones believes in God too, and talks about it.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:14 am | #

"Even when the wrongdoing is only bad driving, the passenger will reasonably expect to be subject to some scrutiny," Souter wrote, "and ... his attempt to leave the scene would be so obviously likely to prompt an objection from the officer that no passenger would feel free to leave in the first place."
Anonymous | 06.19.07 - 7:03 am | #

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Wow, let's see if it changes anything in the practical application of the "law". In LA the PD empty their uns and then yell HALT really loud...I would put a smiley but its not a joke...
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 7:13 am | #

Each one of us trying our best to make sense out of things that make no sense. We grasp onto the person trying to save us, to keep us from drowning, and oftentimes end up drowning both in the process. Whatever trips your trigger and makes life a bit more sensible is entirely your business. But please don't try and drown others because you find your own salvation more important. Love (Charity) is the most important thing we can share while in this world -- but please don't force any of it down anyone's throat. There is far more to life than being miserable and wishing things were better // they can be better if we honestly seek to improve ourselves in the process. There is nothing wrong in improving ourselves and/or our surroundings. My suggestion is get a grip on reality and stop wishing for an end to mankind and that eternal peaceful rest that awaits us all // some a little less peaceful than others most likely. But enjoy life and try to make this world that God gave us a bit better in the life we have.

Now, 9/11 was an inside job. To make life better, we need to bring the guilty to justice to-day; and stop living in the year 10 AD or thereabouts.
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 7:12 am | #

People who demand "yes" or "no" answers, are clearly trying to lead the conversation and just as would a prosecuting attorney.
But anyone with half a brain knows that life is usually more complex than just "yes" and "no". And more often than not, yes and no is not sufficient to properly answer a question in truth.

And I asked you questions first, but you never answered them. That's because any answer you give would make you look wrong, cause basically, you are.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing."- Edmund Burke

If only people like you represented Christianity on Earth, then our history would only be a long dark trail of constant rape, servitude, degredation, and murder for pleasure, without consequence.

For every evil person, or tare, we kill, the world becomes a better place. Simple logic.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 7:08 am | #

cut the religion crap.
if you want to discuss your religion, go to a church.
this is not the place.
there are religious blogs you know.
Anonymous | 06.19.07 - 7:06 am | #

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/new...al/ 17386053.htm
The Constitution protects car passengers as well as drivers from illegal search and seizures, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.

In a case arising out of a late-night stop in California's Central Valley, the court agreed that passengers enjoy the same constitutional guarantees as drivers. When a car is stopped, both driver and passenger are in police hands and therefore can't be searched without due cause, the court ruled.

"A person is seized by the police and thus entitled to challenge the government's action under the Fourth Amendment when the officer by means of physical force or show of authority terminates or restrains his freedom of movement," Justice David Souter wrote.

The ruling marks the first time the court has ruled definitively that a police stop affects drivers and passengers alike. All will now be covered by the Fourth Amendment's prohibition "against unreasonable searches and seizures."
The unanimous ruling by a largely conservative court stunned law enforcement officials and the state of California.
California officials argued that the Fourth Amendment didn't apply, since Brendlin was free to walk away from the police encounter. The Supreme Court didn't buy the argument.

"Even when the wrongdoing is only bad driving, the passenger will reasonably expect to be subject to some scrutiny," Souter wrote, "and ... his attempt to leave the scene would be so obviously likely to prompt an objection from the officer that no passenger would feel free to leave in the first place."
Anonymous | 06.19.07 - 7:03 am | #

There are no political solutions.
Don't believe in constitutions.
Ain't no need for bloody revolutions.

This present evil world is a crucible of conflict between Jesus Christ and whatever would oppose His will and His kingdom.

Your life is not about anything this world can give you; your true life is deep hid in the person and spirit of the risen Lord of Creation.
jake | 06.19.07 - 7:02 am | #

Jake.
This is exactly what I meant about walking around with only a few scriptures jiggling in your pocket.

And so while the Satanist is raping the 3 children right in front of you, it is clear to me now that in your self deception, you would let the children be raped and murdered, and just sit there and "Love" the Satanist and pray for him.

Yes, Jesus did say that, but you do not interpet it rightly, when you ignore the surrounding context, and fail to tie it in with the rest of the scriptures.

And if Jesus and God really love their enemies, then why do they throw Satan and all his millions of followers into hell, and then into a lake of fire and brimstone forever?

Once again, I understand how this all ties in. The word of God is pure, and there is no conflict of God's word with itself in the entire Bible, new and Old Testament.

If you see a conflict, it is a conflict in your mind, not God's word.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:57 am | #

Hey JAKE -- No offense intended to you and your religion beliefs but has this forum turned into a Sunday Go To Church Meeting House?

What does religion or the bible have to do with 9/11 and the Iraqi war and how our government has lied to the American people? A serious question to you, sir, as some seem to always want to bring religion into the subject no matter what the subject.

You're not suggesting a 'spin off' of the 'official story' (are you -- ?) wherein 19 fanic Arab Muslums attacked our country dead-set on taking away our freedoms (are you - ?). If so, please realize that religion had little to nothing to do with any of this. Other than the truly bad guys obviously don't believe in a Heaven and/or Hell, and where it is their evil deeds has surely condemed them to spend eternity (forever and forever).

And for you out there that might not have seen this excellent video clip (from the History Channel) that was shown once but then quietly put back on their shelf: One of the WTC building designers telling us how the towers were constructed with possible airplane collisions in mind:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...ignedtotake.htm
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 6:56 am | #

On the day of the attacks, September 11, international satellite operators were requested to shift their scanning away from the East coast of the USA.
Not Given | 06.19.07 - 6:47 am | #

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DO you have any cites fr this information?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 6:55 am | #

http://www.appeal-democrat.com/ n...urt_police.html
In a 9-0 decision, the court ruled that passengers, like drivers, have a constitutional right to challenge the legality of police decisions to stop cars in which they are traveling. The ruling overturned a California Supreme Court decision.
The case is Brendlin v. California, 06-8120.
Anonymous | 06.19.07 - 6:51 am | #

Jesus comes back in full power and glory, to reward His servants and to punish the wicked and unbelieving--you know this so your question is insincere.
jake | 06.19.07 - 6:50 am | #

Not Given. I like that. Probably true, most likely.
Ask Freddy about the Austrailan pizza. I love Freddy, he belongs here.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:50 am | #

GAK--you are avoiding the question, which is really clear and straight forward. why won't you give a direct yes or no answer to the question posed to you:
Does jesus command His followers to love their enemies or does He not?
jake | 06.19.07 - 6:49 am | #

When Jesus comes back, will he let them crucify him again? Will he love his enemies then?

"Do as I say, not as I do."
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:48 am | #

On the day of the attacks, September 11, international satellite operators were requested to shift their scanning away from the East coast of the USA.
Not Given | 06.19.07 - 6:47 am | #

Jake. I have tried to address it many times. But both you and I only see what we want to see. Let's simply it.

I believe whole heartedly in shit like "Braveheart".

And you are into the Ghandi angle.

I don't know what more I can tell you. I think we are both Christians, and knuckleheads.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:46 am | #

answerthequestion
answerthequestion
answerthequestion
jake | 06.19.07 - 6:45 am | #

GAK--What would you call the submission of Jesus Christ to execution at the hands of sinners but "passive resistance"?
jake | 06.19.07 - 6:43 am | #

I know it's not American policy, but can we feed the 911 perpetrators to Alligators? I would love nothing more than to drink a soda, eat a bag of popcorn, and watch each of them thrown one by one into a watery mud pit filled with 30 starving Alligators. Let's vote on it. Create the blog, Alex. Vote yes, no, or not sure.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:43 am | #

GAK---stop being so smug.
The quotes i posted are Jesus' own words, so i ask once again, does Jesus counsel His followers to love their enemies or does He not?
"Answer the fockin question."
jake | 06.19.07 - 6:41 am | #

Agree with you GAK -- Thanks for at least letting us know that there are more people out there that are AWAKE. Not because of the hour of the day but because of the TRUTH.
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 6:40 am | #

The "nose out" of the plane is suspicious. Cause right after you see it, it disappears! Also, the towers are made of tightly interwoven steel and solid concrete. I tend to think this would have at least snapped the wings of the plane off, and sent debri flying to the ground. But instead, the plane just seems to "melt" into the building.

And the supposed "weight" that caused the collapse, was the exact same weight that had been held up for more than 30 years by the same steel and concrete frame, that didn't even so much as flinch when the planes hit the towers.

And black smoke is an indication of a dying fire.

Both towers fell at free fall speed.

Sorry, scientifically impossible.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:36 am | #

And finally Jake,
I will respect your descision as a Christian if you choose the path of passive resistance. I will always speak against standing down to evil, but do what you feel you must.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:27 am | #

How can the nose of a jet come out like it went in? UNITEDWEREFALLING | 06.18.07 - 1:17 pm | #

I do not see anything suspicious about the front of the plane emerging from the building... and to answer those critics who say the plane should have disintegrated upon impact re the building is steel, and the plane aluminium. Bring Chinese martial arts showmen to mind and see them use a single folded sheet of newspaper to chop bricks and such. It depends on the momentum of the moving object.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.18.07 - 3:19 pm
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Okay, now, THAT'S EXACTLY the kind of wrong thinking that has the debunkers believing STEEL melted from kerosene (because fire is hot) and argue that perfectly sound (strong) lower floors gave way and collapsed into fine dust just as easily as those upper floors did that sustained damage from the airplane collision (or explosion, or whatever it was), and then argue that just because those buildings fell down in what can only best be described as a controlled fashion (displaying a number of exact examples of a controlled demolition) -- well, they would say, 'that just doesn't mean anything' // well, yes it does too, it means one hell of a lot --

You don't see anything suspicious (??) in the aluminum nose of a B767 enterring through solid STEEL beams (that's what the wrap of the building was -- STEEL post set approximately three feet apart from each other as they wrapped each side of the WTC towers // that means (according to what you don't find suspicious at all) that soft aluminium cut those solid STEEL beams and then continued pushing its way through other inner building structures and exited (again) through solid STEEL beams -- and according to that news clip we see, did so with what appears to be an EXACT UNCRIMPLED PERFECTLY SHAPED aluminium nose of that same B767. Un-F*ing-believeable. To most of us BUT reflecting back to your words apparently not you. What a joke.

Let's not forget that some of that 'other' inner building structure just happened to be MORE of that STEEL (i.e., inner support beams helping hold up the super structure) // I suppose you think (??)the 'nose' might have missed collision with those, huh -- but at the same time you ignore the two STEEL walls (enter/exit) and dismiss them with a Chinese Gungfu show of force where rolled up newspaper might be used to chop 'bricks and such' -- WELL THEN LET'S SEE THAT SAME ROLLED UP NEWSPAPER DO THAT NEAT LITTLE TRICK TO SOLID STEEL // Don't think so!!

You wanna see what happens to an aluminum airplane when it meets a solid immoveable object (such as a cement wall // which, I admit, is definitely not the same thing as a solid STEEL wall; nevertheless, it should still give you a pretty clear picture of how your newspaper theory is so very lame // Take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h? v=l7eI4vvlupY

Perhaps YOU didn't find this the least bit suspicious BUT obviously the CNN folks did; and that's why their blatant attempt at covering it up with their scroll bar.

Wise up. And (a suggestion) please watch the kind the thing(s) you say in this forum // your words just might confuse another person as much as you seem confused.
jbrid1138 | 06.19.07 - 6:24 am | #

The Baldman has arisen!
Hail, the Baldmanace, and his manifesto!
Let the freedom fighters come from the shadows!
Let the gates of the Enemy be rattled!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:23 am | #

Jake.
The idea that the New Testament somehow overrides the Old Testament, is the product of crafty preachers, and misguided Christians.

Once again. "Think not that I am come to destroy the Law......."- Jesus

He also whipped the money changers with a three cord whip.

God does not contradict his own words, or send mixed messages. The New and Old Testament are one and the same. When you can interpet them both in a way that they do not conflict with one another, then you will have rightly discerned.

If in your interpetations, conflicts are created between the New and Old Testament, then it is your interpetation that is wrong, not the New or Old Testaments.

Christ was a Jew. The angel Gabriel appeared in both the Old, and new Testaments.

The only thing Christ did change was animal sacrifice, and how we look at the sabbath day. That's just a matter of timing.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:19 am | #

the constitution is a representation of what is not written
it states the unsaid
it is not the law
for even if it were to burn literaly
the law would remain
do your homework
they put it on paper for lack of a better plan
the law is the bible
the law is the word
the law is the law of the land
the law is common sense
the law is written on your heart by the hand of God
the law is manners
there was still slavery and other old school carry overs because change had not come about by that time
as the purity and decsency crept through like the spirit of God whispering in the ear of man
it was only a matter of time for the conscience equation to add up to color and gender equality
yet even those could be and were minipulated for the elite criminal plot
any arguement against the constitution or the principle for which it is writ is a cop out to the inferior mindset of defeat and cowering pussyism
the enforcement of laws of the heart are not bound by paper and pen except the written word of Our Heavenly Father
or they would lay there hand on the constitution when they are sworn in
baldmanace | 06.19.07 - 6:12 am | #

Beg to differ.
The original Constitution endows ALL men with certain inalienable rights. And back then, the Bible was respected. One man was even jailed and fined $500 for cursing Jesus Christ.

"The Bible is the book upon which this REPUBLIC rests."- Andrew Jackson, 7th president of the United States.

Jackson also fought with the Rothschilds, and sometimes even got in gun fights and fist fights in the street. He warned against the Masons, and the money changers.

The original Constitution is a Godly work, not idolatry. God said to use just measures, weights, and balances in our affairs. I think the Constitution represents mans finest achievement thus far at creating a fair and just government, under God.
That is why the devil and his East India Trading Company minions (Committee of 300) have tried so hard to destroy it. Plain and simple. Attacks upon the Bible and the Constitution is the first priority here at prison planet, and info wars.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:10 am | #

9-11 The Explosive Reality: Well worth watching. Biggs | 06.18.07 - 7:49 pm | #

http://investigate911.se/ The_Exp...ull_lenght.html

Blockbuster video with essential WTC 6 evidence... Missile at 5m 50 sec... Dense dust and smoke rising from ground level, fallout from the missile explosion, while both towers are still visible in the background at 15:46... And most alarming of all, a man with a strong Serbo-Croatian accent helmeted, in a green military uniform blocked a news television camera with his hand, and told the reporter that the tower was coming down, and said "...nothing informations." at 1 hr 09 min.

A foreign mercenary soldier on the street in New York the day the WTC came down... Heavy drama.
Freddy Fatt | 06.19.07 - 6:09 am | #

GAK--that is all Old Testament history. Where in the New Testament, when Jesus was actually physically here on the planet, or in the Epistles, do you read God commanding His followers to kill?
jake | 06.19.07 - 6:08 am | #

GAK--Washington and Revere were 33rd degree Masons, that is very high up in the club. The entire city grid of d.c. is masonic in design and intent. Did you know that?

And if you are going to give out "direct Bible truth", be careful you stay away from 'personal' revelation that is not consistent with the word of God.

The violence you counsel is not of Jesus Christ; it is from the flesh---anger, hatred, fear, envy, lust all are works of the flesh.
jake | 06.19.07 - 6:06 am | #

And Agag came unto him carefully and said "Surely the bitterness of death is passed?"

And Samuel replied, "As much as the sword has made women childless, so shall thy mother remain childless among women." And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord in Gilgal.

And Elijah took the 400 priests of Baal, and slew them all with the sword by the river, Kishon.

And Samson slayed 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass in Lehi.

"My enemies swarmed about me like bees to destroy me, but in the name of the Lord, I shall smite them into the dust of the Earth."- King David.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 6:01 am | #

GAK--The Constitution was written by landed aristocracy, not by the common man. It was written by gentlemen farmers, slaveholders, prosperous merchants and a few puritanical christians. In the original constitution, black people were considered 3/5s of a person for census purposes and along with women and poor, unlanded whites, had no vote in the new government.
And the world is the same as it has ever been: a crucible of warfare between Satan and Jesus Christ for the possession of human souls.
The US Constitution is one of the most important document to ever come from the mind of man but it is not sacred, it is secular. And to worship anything of this world as if it were sacred is idolatry.
Flee idolatry.
jake | 06.19.07 - 5:56 am | #

Jake. I hate to see good people suffer. And I have much compassion.
But I have no compassion for child rapists and murderers, and it is my duty, and yours, to stop them, whatever it takes.
Here is some direct Bible truth.

There are really only two types of people in this world. Good people, and evil people- who of course always pretend to be good.

Wheat, tares
Sheep, goats

You are either born good, or evil. Your father is God, or the Devil. Whether you know it or not.

Good people of course, fall into temptations, and make stupid mistakes, cause we are weak, and stupid children. That's why we need God's forgiveness.

I have no sympathy for tares. They are not even human, they are snakes, and Reptilians- a brood of vipers, and the children of the Great Red Dragon.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 5:52 am | #

"Blessed is the man whose trust is in the Lord."

"Preserve me, oh God, for in you i put my trust."

"The Lord tests the righteous, but the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates.."

"Trust in the Lord with all your strength and lean not upon your own understanding."

"Lord, how they have increased who trouble me! Many are they who rise up against me. Many are they who say of me, 'there is no help for him in God.' but you are a shield for me, my glory and the One who lifts up my head."

"Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God will shine forth."
jake | 06.19.07 - 5:49 am | #

Jake.
The original Constitution, whether you want to believe it or not, was designed to safeguard the freedom of the common man. That is why the New World Order has been working tirelessly for decades to dismantle it. Don't make things more complicated than they are.
And even if some of them were Masons, the lower degrees are just a social club, and of no consequence.
We were founded a government by the people, for the people. And in the beginning, we truly were. But they have slowly subverted our freedoms over the course of three centuries. This is plain in sight common historical fact.
They must destroy the Constitution in order to fully enslave us, and most importantly, convince the general public that it's ok, and to accept it.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 5:45 am | #

GAK--if you are so incensed about the nwo and its wars, why don't you do somwething positive like volunteer at a VA hospital with the guys who are coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? They could use your help and it would be good for you to see human suffering up close, close enough to get your hands on it. That is when it gets real and you can leave all this vague intellectual chatter behind you.
jake | 06.19.07 - 5:40 am | #

"Trust in the Lord to protect you from the coming darkness".
Boy, you are in for a rude awakening.
Why do you think in BOTH Daniel and Revelations the saints and the Beast make WAR?
Why do you think Jesus describes in the gospels that the saints shall fall by flame, the sword, and imprisonment?
Who is beheaded for the witness?
Don't expect an easy ride. It's about to get real ugly. But you do have a right to defend yourself and other innocents.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 5:37 am | #

I am not claiming victory and i am not lying on the ground.
For pity's sake, how old are you anyway?
Am i talking to a kid?
Have you killed for your government yet?
If not, then we have nothing to talk about.
Baptism by fire is a real mthrfkr.
jake | 06.19.07 - 5:36 am | #

GAK--there you go again.

Washington and Paul Revere were Masons; Washington was a 33rd degree Mason and an Illuminist. i thought the Masons were your enemy.
The Consitution was written by the Illuminati who were considered "anarchists" because the philosophy of constituional rule of law was the antithesis of divne right monarchy. The Illuminati was formed as a reaction against the ruling houses in Europe: the Rothschilds, the Hapsburgs, the Hohenzollern, the Romanovs.
Google "Adam Wieshaupt" if you want a good read.
jake | 06.19.07 - 5:34 am | #

Just like the guy that called Alex Jones yesterday and said Alex was wrong for being mad at the New World Order. What a crock of bogus modern day baby food spoiled Christian drivel.
Alex stands up to evil in it's face, and puts his and his families life on the line for the truth. And what are the Christian pussies who scold him doing, besides jacking off to their New International Version? Not a fucking thing.
Alex Jones is the "Rambo" of the truth movement, and a man of God. And anyone who says otherwise is a snot nosed punk, who should check their own shit.
Alex doesn't need to flaunt that he is a Christian, he walks the walk, and his actions and words speak volumes about the contents of his heart.
He is a true man of God. Not some fake, wanna be, whiner.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 5:32 am | #

And I am sure that if you would have actually been there to witness what John Wayne Gayce did to his young innocent victims, you might reconsider your views on capitol punishment.

But like any jury member, you weren't there. And so with time, every monstrocity is minimized with each passing day. Pretty soon, you are desensitized to any crime, no matter how heinous it may be. And you just roll over, and let evil run all over yourself, and others. Instead of standing up in responsibility and duty to God.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 5:24 am | #

I took my shot, and you don't realize that you are lying on the ground. Like I said, take your non violent message and get out of America.
America only exists because REAL MEN OF GOD fought tyranny. And they "murdered" men. Revolutionary war. But you didn't address that, nor did you address Braveheart, nor did you say what you would do if a man had a knife and was raping and murdering children right in front of you, and you had a gun.

You just avoid the critical questions and claim victory. I hope you are still enjoying the last vestiges of American freedom that was bought with the blood of real Christians and Patriots like Paul Revere, Patrick Henry, George Washington, and many many others.

Hypocrite.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 5:18 am | #

The Gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing but to us who reverence His word, it is eternal life.
i counsel you in all sincerity, trust in the Lord to protect you from the coming darkness; trust in His might and not in your own strength.
The present evil world is passing away right before our eyes---let it go, it is blood-soaked in criminality, drenched in horror.
One working shift on a medical-surgical ward of any VA hospital will change your bloodlust to disgust for violence in any form against any human body.
i gd guarantee it.
jake | 06.19.07 - 5:16 am | #

I guess serving God doesn't involve truth anymore.
I live in a small town, about 12,000 people. There are at least seven very large churches here. But hardly anyone in this town knows anything at all about 911 truth, or anything else for that matter. This town is a fucking bubble. And why is that?
#1 Corporate media lies
#2 95+% of the so called "Christian Churches" in America today are just fake spiritual farms, where the farmer (Pastor) herds the sheep into the barn every Sunday, preaches a fluffy happy message, preaches prosperity scripture, and fleeces the sheeple for their cash in the name of God. The all have taken the 501c3 tax exemption, which is an agreement not to speak out against the government. You will never see a copy of "Terrorstorm" in the stores or libraries of these fake Christian churches.

And where the fuck in the scriptures did Jesus EVER even say to start a damn church in the first place? Did he not say that the true Christians ARE THE CHURCH AND TEMPLE OF GOD?

Did John The Baptist, who Jesus said was the greatest man to walk the earth besides himself (he cannot lie, even for modesty's sake), drive fancy cars, and live a comfortable and luxurious lifestyle? Did he fleece sheep in a building? Did he sign a 501c3 with Herod or Rome?

No. Rather he lived in the wilderness, wore a leather girdle and camels hair, and ate locusts and honey. He never asked anyone for a dime. He just called people to be baptized and prepare for the coming of the Lord. And he spoke VEHEMENTLY against the government.

So TBN, and Rhema Bible college, and Casey Treat, and Benny Hinn, and Jim Baker, and Jimmy Swaggart, and Billy Grahm, and all the rest can piss off. Take your fancy suits, your jewelry, your soft rainment, your smooth tounges, your fat bank accounts, your private jets, and shove it.

If the Christian pastors of America had truly done their duty to God and man, then we would not be in this New World Order catastrophe right now.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 5:11 am | #

GAK has retired for the evening? Anyone else want to take a shot?

Is there anyone out there? Is there anyone at all?
jake | 06.19.07 - 5:02 am | #

i saw 'Braveheart' three times; good movie but i don't determine my personal philosophy by anything coming out of Hollywood.

You just sound like another pharisee--"i have read the whole Bible several times"---so what? Shame on you then even more so, for having missed the essential message of the NEW Testament--love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your mind and all your strength; and love your neighbor as yourself."
Love is the fulfilling of the law.

Dose Jesus say to love our enemies or not?
Well, does He?

"Answer the fockin question."
jake | 06.19.07 - 4:55 am | #

How am i giving christians a bad name by quoting scripture about loving one another for His sake?
jake | 06.19.07 - 4:47 am | #

GAK----yeah, i know the law. You didn't finish the quote.

"Do no think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfil.........."

"If you love me, keep my commandments."

"This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.

"Blessed are the merciful for they will obtain mercy."
jake | 06.19.07 - 4:45 am | #

How about the movie "Braveheart" Jake.
Should William Wallace just have let the English rape their wives? Should he have let the man who slit his wifes throat lord over him? Should he instead have prayed for them and Longshanks?

I don't think I am the one who is looking stupid here, Jake.
You are giving Christians a bad name, and turning away converts who are good reasonable people, who only want to live in peace, love, truth, and justice.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 4:35 am | #

So would you let the other two children be raped and murdered in front of you, Jake?
What would you do?
He has a knife.

Come on Sister Christian, tell me what you would do.
We are dying to hear it.
See how you avoid the real questions.
WWJD?
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 4:29 am | #

Speaking of direct quotes, you still haven't addressed my question yet. And this is also a direct quote:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the Law....."- Jesus

Do you know the Laws in Leviticus and Deuteronomy, Jake?

I have read the WHOLE BIBLE many times.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 4:25 am | #

I have had many miraculous experiences with God. Including the Holy Spirit. Your accuse me of being "luciferian". And yet I have clearly said those are the people I am fighting.
Hell dude, maybe you should just join the Church of Satan and call yourself a Christian.
Cause you are double thinking enough to qualify.

Do you even believe in defending the Constitution?

And by the way, you are not my enemy. Not by far. My enemies are the tares of the wicked one, sown by their father the devil amongst us.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 4:23 am | #

GAK---you really are kind of an idiot.

Those are direct quotes i posted, not interpretations.

Jesus' own words.

If you have a problem with those words, you have a problem with Him.
jake | 06.19.07 - 4:23 am | #

"No murderer shall inherit eternal life."
Well, then David, Abraham, Samson, Joshua, Caleb, Gideon, Samuel, and a whole bunch of God's servants are going to hell for murdering, I guess. According to your interpetations.

"Those who live by the sword must perish by the sword."

Did it ever cross your mind that this means as you measure so shall it be measured back to you?

Scenario.
I am baby sitting my neighbors three children. I have a gun. Suddenly, a man with a pentagram breaks in, and rapes one of the children and cuts their head off. Should I now just sit back and pray for him, as he does the same to the other two?

If I am evil and I kill innocents, I can expect to go to hell, unless I repent.

But if I kill evil people to defend the innocent, shall God punish me?

Your robotic brain trained mind controlled Christianity doesn't even have a shred of good ole fashioned plain common sense.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 4:18 am | #

GAK---you claim to be a christian and yet you mock one who prys to the Father in the Spirit......very luciferian.
jake | 06.19.07 - 4:17 am | #

They beat and tortured Jesus, hung Him on a cross and mocked Him while He died...and he says to me...."follow Me."
i know about the Fema camps and the railway cars; they do not scare me one bit as i know already what is coming: martyrdom....
You are not under the law but under grace. Go ahead and kill people, gabrielalanking, if you think you must; use God's Name to justify it before men, if you think it will help you...all men are judged by the same Lord.
jake | 06.19.07 - 4:14 am | #

People who talk so easily about killing other human beings don't need an excuse, they just want to killl someone: " no murderer inherits eternal life."
God has a right to kill because He is God and Creator. You do not have a right to kill and if you do He will judge you for it..
"Put your sword in its place, for ALL who take the sword will perish by the sword."
"My Kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, THEN would my servants fight so i would not be delivered to the Jews; but now MY KINGDOM IS NOT FROM HERE."
"So i looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power WAS GIVEN to them over a fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger,with death, with the beasts of the earth."
"And when he opened the fifth seal, i saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the Word of God and for THE TESTIMONY WHICH THEY HELD."
"The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hell delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each according to his works. Then Death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of lIfe was cast into the lake of fire."
jake | 06.19.07 - 4:06 am | #

Where are you, Jake? Praying in the spirit?
Tell the boss I said hi.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 3:53 am | #

"Evil intentions"
See how backwards you are, Jake? You call saving children from rape and murder an "evil intention".
And obeying God's word in Leviticus and Deuteronomy an "evil intention".

God also says, in the Old Testament, that if any of us know that someone is worshiping Satan or Molech, and we don't kill them, that God will hold us accountable for it.

Just take the blue pill, and wait for the "Peace keeping forces" to deal with you, Jake. You are clearly on the blue list.

To know what the blue list is, go to www.TedGunderson.com and click on the part regarding concentration camps in America.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 3:50 am | #

Christians like you Jake, walk around with a couple scripture quotes in your pocket, judging others, thinking you have the answers.
But you don't understand the Bible as a whole, which is essential to rightly discern the whole truth.
God does not contradict himself. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
King David killed tens of thousands. And yet God loved him, and said he was a man after his own heart. HOW COULD THIS BE??????
Could it be because David judged rightly, and killed only evil men?
In the Psalms, Did David not say when his enemies were sick, he prayed for them? And yet still they compassed him about to destroy him, and so he destroyed them.

"Think not that I am come to destroy the Law...."- Jesus

Jesus came to OFFER us forgiveness. If we receive him, which I do. He also came to say that he didn't want us stoning each other for every little thing, but to instead be patient with our brothers and sisters.

His message was not to give "freedom of religion" to child raping and murdering Satanists, or money changers.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 3:40 am | #

Luff's comments are spot-on but notice how Bliar always has to have the last smart-as word, this is typical of the man and goes right back to his childhood days when he was an impudent, illmannered pupil at school, according to his schoolmates.And, yes he wants issues discussed in committees because the British public do not pay much attention to them - he can get away with more. But in PMQs, when on diplay in the bearpit he's more scutinised by the public. He has hardly ever been there. In contrast, Margaret Thatcher seemed to live there!
bootroll | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 3:40 am | #

So we come at them as a diciplined, fighting machine.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 3:06 am
And HOW do you suggest we do that, since most sheeple are NOT even aware or are in DENIAL that anything is even terribly wrong, much less want to get up off their fat, lazy asses to do something about all this TREASON AND MASS MURDER BY PEOPLE IN OUR OWN GOV'T! Do you know there are cops and military against the NWO too? Go to P&MANWO website! Here is link below: http://www.patriotamerica.com/Ja...cLamb/ index.htm
We need ALOT more cops and military on our side! Wished his books were cheaper! We should be passing his books out to cops all over America and yesterday! Please all spread the word about this website OK?
9-11 truther | 06.19.07 - 3:33 am | #

DIGG is still playing games with this story. This link:

http://www.digg.com/ 2008_us_elec...deral_Reserve_2

is still not appearing, nor has it ever appeared in DIGG's top 10, even though it has over 2500 DIGGs. It also doesn't appear if you search for it within DIGG using search tags such as "2755" or "ron paul" or "federal reserve".

However, a new attempt has started to digg a variation of this story, it has about 20 DIGGs so far. The DIGG link to this one is:
http://www.digg.com/politics/ Ron...deral_Reserve_4

This second link referenced an infowars article. The first link references a government site:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/...?bill=h110- 2755

I say fight back, DIGG BOTH!
avril ellison | 06.19.07 - 3:30 am | #

As far as anonymity, I have posted my name, address and phone number here many times.

And as far as your disdain for any violence goes, then why don't you get the fuck out of my country, which only exists because brave God fearing men stood up to tyranny in the revolutionary war. You are enjoying the fruits of their labors, not your own. So if you are so non violent, and there is never an excuse for it, then please leave, and go worship Ghandi or something.

All the old testament heroes killed. Tens of thousands, and thus preserved God's people.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 3:25 am | #

Ok Jake.
Bless your enemies. Resist not evil. Pray for your enemies.
Why does Christ kill millions upon his return, cause he's blessing them?
Does God contradict his own word?
Did Jesus come to destroy THE LAW?
What is THE LAW, Jake? Do you even fucking know? You are a typical didn't read the WHOLE BIBLE Christian.

God never contradicts himself, and he commands us to KILL Satan, and Molech worshippers, and those who would lead the land into whoredom.

He also commands us to defend the innocent, and do unto others (the victims) as we would want done for us (save them).

Forgiveness is only for those who ASK for it, in sincerity.

Read it again.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 3:20 am | #

I would have to agree. And we must put the line in the sand (actually in the concrete) with the upcoming National I.D. and biometric push. We MUST refuse. And we will be validated in revolt if necessary....Let them drop as many bombs as they wish. But refuse the National I.D. card and the bio-chip!
Anonymous | 06.19.07 - 1:13 am | #

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Exactly, never submit but get the people, as many of them as possible togeher on it. Because when we the people make our stand, we will have to be prepared to fight to hold our ground.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 3:09 am | #

Tired Of The Lies, The NWO might be waiting for a revolution but what do you suggest? Letting them haul us off to those FEMA camps without even a wimper? NOT,NOT! Get a clue! They plan on haulling us off to those FEMA camps without a revolution TOO! They are NOT giving us any options! Like JFK said, "those who make peaceful revolution IMPOSSIBLE, make violent revolution INEVITABLE"!
9-11 truther | 06.19.07 - 2:59 am | #

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That isn't what I said nor what I meant. What I actually said was not to do anything until we can work as a whole. You know organize. In other words, they have a plan of attack and so should we. i mean would you go into battle against an army and have no idea what they had planned or what weapons they had, or would you try to be in a position where you could fight. But we cannot give it to them the way they expect it. they expect a divided, undisciplined group of people that don't have a clue. So we come at them as a diciplined, fighting machine.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 3:06 am | #

Hate is the enemy.
Hatred and the LIE are alive and well at prison planet.
jake | 06.19.07 - 3:05 am | #

Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 3:01 am For once, your right! Praying alone will NOT stop these pure evil Satanists! I wished it would but we also must pray for strenght too Gab against them too! Besides fighting them anyway we can!
9-11 truther | 06.19.07 - 3:04 am | #

Also veiw the video again, as you obviously didn't hear everything he said. All you need is in that 1 video.
cop-KILLA
What video please? Maybe the rest of us want to watch it, too?
9-11 truther | 06.19.07 - 3:02 am | #

Your right Jake. We should all just cower like pussies and use "Christianity" as an excuse to do nothing while children are raped and murdered by Satanists. I'll just sit in my easy chair and keep quoting the scriptures that support my cowardice, and apathy, so I can feel justified. Meanwhile, America is being liquidated and Sodomized because people like you are chicken shit.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."- Edmund Burke

Keep telling yourself your a real Christian, while children are being raped and murdered by our own government, pussy. Your probably one of those sheep that go to a 501c3 tax exempt church every Sunday and listen to some well dressed slickster interpet the Bible for you. Don't forget to pay your tithe!
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 3:01 am | #

G.A.K.---don't forget to invoke Jesus Christ's name so you can cloak your intended mass murder in the pseudo-righteousness that works so well for those lovely people in the administration. i am sure the Lord of mercy and compassion understands your need to join in the slaughter of human beings who you don't like or agree with. Have you ever thought of a career in the intelligence field, you sound like you have the perfect attitutde.
jake | 06.19.07 - 2:54 am | #

Then again, I got a crazy idea. Since the law protects these murdering evil pedophiles, I can just become a vigilante, take my guns, and hunt them down myself!
I'll go to the temple of Set, and kill everyone there. And then I will mail Michael Aquino's severed head to the white house wrapped in plastic, in a cardboard box! That might send them a message!
Then I will hunt down all the other pedophiles, and kill them too, and dance the jig in their fucking blood!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds like fun to me.........
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 2:29 am | #

This might be a tiny clue that our government, and the United Nations, may possibly have a tiny little bit of possible corruption.

The United nations publicly sanctioned NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association)
And our government runs child prostitution rings to service business men and politicians at home and abroad. The children are usually snatched right off the street, but are sometimes acquired through the tentacles of CPS. Sometimes, some of these children are used to be murdered in Satanic sacrifices, right here in apple pie land of the free and home of the brave. The children are murdered in front of other children. They are all raped by multiple evil people, and the children sacrificed have their hearts cut out, and their heads cut off, and their eyes cut out.

I don't know everything, and I'm kind of slow, but this seems like sort of a bad thing to me, maybe?

And I don't mean to offend anyones religious freedoms. I should just keep quiet and keep letting it happen.........
Gabriel Alan King | 06.19.07 - 2:20 am | #

BBC world just announced - major new US offensive in iraq, which had been reported earlier in the night.

However, this one involves 10,000 soldiers and is based around Baquba, which has been a major hub for Al Qaeda and other jihadist groups for some time, and has been out of US control for some time.

Looks like a bloody one, that is a large number of troops to throw into an offensive, this is no standard seal off and search, this sounds like a pretty big deal.

22 insurgents reported killed so far (officials say)
Biggs | 06.19.07 - 2:17 am | #

Ron In LA | 06.18.07 - 8:21 pm | #
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cop-KILLA | 06.19.07 - 1:52 am | #

Turtles :})
cuda | 06.19.07 - 1:48 am | #

I would like to take the opportunity to remind everyone of one simple fact. The NWO WANTS a war on this soil. Be it a civil war, a race war or a revolution. Because any one of those would give the perfect excuse for the FEMA camps, martial law, and for mass genocide. They have tried for a race war for years by keeping the races divided on issues, thay now try for a civil war with the Immigration bill, and they have been for decades trying to get a revolution by the people. Don't fall into the trap. We all know that a revolution will come, but we must be ready and prepared for this, don't go off before we know our enemy and have the people acting as one in it. They wait for us as a people to give them one of these wars, they have been making it happen, so you know they have a plan for it. - Tired.

I would have to agree. And we must put the line in the sand (actually in the concrete) with the upcoming National I.D. and biometric push. We MUST refuse. And we will be validated in revolt if necessary....Let them drop as many bombs as they wish. But refuse the National I.D. card and the bio-chip!
Anonymous | 06.19.07 - 1:13 am | #

FBI to Battle Zombie Horde
And now the FBI wants to do something about it. How? It's directly contacting a million PC owners to let them know what they ought to have known all along: That their computers are infected and are being hijacked for nefarious uses. The goal is to help track down the source of these infections and put the hackers responsible behind bars. "Operation Bot Roast" (love the name) has already led to the arrest of three scammers.

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/29654
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 1:04 am | #

gn tied, sorry I was away while all the disinfo against spreading truth was being flung. We live during a sad state of affairs when we send our kids to risk their lives 24/7 in Iraq yet we cannot even go through a blog thread to find out what is truth. How fucking lazy we have become!
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 12:48 am | #

Alfred Webre at the Knowledge Exchange part 1
http://video.google.com/ videopla...924856627627790
Alfred Webre at the Knowledge Exchange part 2 Q + A
50 min - Jun 17, 2007
... Alfred Webre Q + A Taped at "The Knowledge Exhange" in New Westminster BC. Canada ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...674382259647296
Watch video here - Related videos

Pearl Harbor and 9/11 According to Webster Tarpley
29 min - Jun 16, 2007 - (5 ratings)
This is the first of a three part series on 9/11 Truth and Pearl Harbor as ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h? v=pJZrUCKK3QM
Watch video here - Related videos
sane | Homepage | 06.19.07 - 12:41 am | #

Oh, i am also building a TRUTH homepage that all of you will be welcome to place comments on. I will post the link for it in a day or two, Once it is ready.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:39 am | #

And before I go for the night, i will post the one thing I have posted for the last few days so no one will forget ever that Collateral damage is REAL people.

What exactly does the NWO envision America to stand for?
http://www.salon.com/news/abu_gh...4/introduction/
http://911review.com/motive/ afgh...fghanistan.html
http://www.salon.com/news/abu_gh...4/introduction/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...1/01/ wmil01.xml
http://www.cursor.org/stories/ ci...lian_deaths.htm
http://www.apfn.net/ MESSAGEBOARD...ion.cgi.61.html
http://www.irc-online.org/fpif/ c...oldam_body.html
http://www.aztlan.net/ iraqichild...ldrenhorror.htm
http://www.albasrah.net/images/i.../iraqi- pow1.htm
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inHum...old- Dossier.pdf
http://www.counterpunch.org/ dard...an08072003.html
http://www.marymacelveen.com/blo.../3/ 2995446.html
http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/ 2...9890768716.html
http://www.commondreams.org/head...s03/0331- 01.htm
http://www.ssrc.org/sept11/essay...ays/ khattak.htm
http://www.salon.com/news/featur.../16/abu_ghraib/
http://www.antiwar.com/news/?art...? articleid=2444
http://www.thememoryhole.com/war...raqis_tortured/
http://www.thememoryhole.com/war...raqis_tortured/
http://www.usatoday.com/news/wor...- children_N.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...ents042104.html

Now tell me again who are the Terrorists?

Collateral Damage Means REAL people.
This is what it has come to. America the Conquerors of the World. Is this what our founding fathers envisioned for us? Why do so many refuse to see and will they continue to do so until it is too late and they are in the FEMA camps? Just remember there will be no “Allied” forces coming to liberate us this time
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:35 am | #

Sane, Biggs, Kells, GAK, and anyone I may have missed, Tune in tomorrow, I have some friends getting some things together for us to be posted on here tomorrow. This is all new stuff and some things that even Alex hasn't hit on yet. We are emailing it to Him as well, but I will be posting it for all to see tomorrow. I do this with about 20 truthers that work dilligently day and night to out the truth from everywhere. I will try to sort it by category if I can but I was told that it is about a Gig of links. I should have it by around 2 to 3 pm Mountain time tomorrow, so be aware, there will be massive posting tomorrow.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.19.07 - 12:32 am | #

9-11 The Explosive Reality (2hrs) http://investigate911.se/ The_Exp...ull_lenght.html Biggs | 06.18.07 - 7:49 pm | #

This is a reasonably good video but like Avery and Alex the producers give scant attention to the tough issue of the missile strike on WTC 6. The missile is visible at 5 minutes 50 seconds...

An air to ground missile impacted WTC 6 moments after the strike on the South Tower. Most visible at this link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...related& search=

…as the second jet rammed its target, ‘…That was an explosion,’ says Stephen McArdle a tax consultant, from inside the Marriot Hotel, he was taping as part of an FBI sting operation. …Then comes a longer and much louder explosion. Greg Smith 2002. The second explosion is in fact the detonation of the missile’s warhead…

CNN’s Public Affairs Department confirmed that the explosion shown in the footage occurred immediately after the second plane had crashed into the South Tower. When asked if the footage was taken at 9:04 a.m., the CNN archivist said “that’s correct.” When asked if CNN could offer any explanation about what might have caused the blast that soared higher than the 47-story WTC 7 in the foreground, the archivist said: “We can’t figure it out.” The affected space between WTC 7 and the North Tower was occupied by the Customs House building, also known as WTC 6.

Jack White’s 911 Studies: The South Tower was hit at 9:03, at 9:04 CNN televised a significant explosion between the North Tower and Building 7 the location of WTC 6, the 8-Story Customs House… Photo: a pyroclastic cloud in an inner city environment, caption… while onlookers were distracted by the events at skyscraper level, moments after the second plane hit the South Tower, WTC 6 was torn apart by a massive explosion. The crater in the building was eight stories deep, an immense hole blasted into the sub basements… all eight stories missing… no wreckage… blown away…

Dr. Gene Corley, one of the engineers who led the investigation, told AFP The Customs House had a huge crater in its center. Corley said he had not seen the photos of the extremely high-speed missile-like object seen streaking toward WTC 6 from behind the North Tower as the second plane hit the South Tower. He noted that parts of the plane’s landing gear and an engine passed through the South Tower, and landed several blocks away. These objects, however, had a distinctly different trajectory from the streaking missile-like object.

FEEDBACK: …it moves as fast as any normal plane would even in slow mo, and normal its just a streak... An anomaly that shoots diagonally down from the north tower, look to the right of the screen. It was a missile… what was that dark shadow at 14s… no mention was ever made of this STRANGE black streak. …there was a missile that came behind tower 1 do u c that …
Freddy Fatt | 06.19.07 - 12:32 am | #

Sane and others who post 9 out of ten posts here for hours and hours on end:

While your info is timely and often informative you must realize the moderator and others have a very valid point. If you are REALLY interested in being an aid to Freedom and privacy loving Citizens and The Cause, y