Enter your comment at the foot of the page (Please be aware that comments are moderated).

I support Ed and Elaine Brown, a couple who have been convicted of tax evasion by the government of the United States.
The Browns are right, and their refusal to pay income tax is not only right, but legal.
In fact, the taxes that the Browns are being forced to pay is illegal.
Let me begin.
There are many forms of taxation.
Property, excise, sales, and income are just a few of the commodities that are taxed in the United States.
Of those, income tax is a tax that is based on earnings, with a certain percent going to tax.
Until 1913, there was no such thing as an income tax.
At that time, Congress brought forth the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the federal income tax amendment, which was allegedly ratified in 1913.
To ratify the 16th Amendment, at least 3/4 or 36 of the states had to approve the amendment.
There were 48 states at that time.
Of those 48 states, only two actually ratified the 16th amendment, and those same two may not have done so legally.
In other words, the 16th amendment giving the government the right to tax income, was never made legal.
To put this into more simple terms, it is illegal to collect income tax.
It has been illegal since 1913.
The government has no right to make you pay an income tax.
In fact, it is theft.
In 1913, Secretary of State Philander Knox announced ratification by 38 states, but among those same 38 states, there is absolute proof that:
The Kentucky Senate voted down the resolution by a 22 to 9 vote.
The California legislative assembly never recorded any vote to ratify the 16th amendment.
The State of Minnesota sent nothing to the Secretary of State in Washington.
The California legislative assembly never recorded any votes which means that no one knows how California voted, if it even voted at all.
This all means that the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was never ratified, meaning it was never approved.
So the U.S. Government never had the legal right to collect income tax from its people.
This means that Ed and Elaine Brown are right in refusing to pay this tax, and the government is wrong.
I am in complete support of them!
If you are as well, please sign this petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/ta...3/ petition.html

Thank you.
George Vreeland Hill


Hello all: Even though i critisize Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Mike Rivero on a lot of issues. I congratulate them, and praise them on other issues. For example: I went to a jewisih blogger the other day, where average jews (I MEAN NOT ZIONISTS) but average Israeli citizens, and i got so sick, that i didn't even have the energies left to write Michael Rivero wrh@whatreallyhappened.com to tell him about what i read in that Israeli blogger. Most israelis there bragged about how good Israelis should feel because they are a superior-race. They claimed that they are whiter than arabs, smarter than arabs, with bigger and higher IQs and different physique, and that's why they are a chosen nation (When in truth as you all know the Israel of the Bible means workers and poor people) not the Israel-1948 Fascist state founded by Imperialist Nations). This is just to show you that Alex Jones, Rense, and other conspiracy intellectual theorists are OBJECTIVE, SCIENTIFIC, AND TRUE ON BEING ANTI-ZIONISM !!!!!!!!


What about the ring Arnold has on? Isn't that clearly a mason ring?? Can someone do a close up on the ring?


There is a rather academic argument to be made that the "crushed" death's head used by Germans for centuries was not a "Nazi" totenkopf. It was the badge of the cavalry, signifying heroic youthful recklessness and often bearing the motto "Death or Glory." When the uniform and regalia obsessed National Socialists were putting uniforms together they gave the SS the prestigious badge of the traditional armed forces branch of the upper classes because of the status they foresaw for the SS, not necessarily because of overt fetishizing of death, which would of couse be quite true of several other formations that never wore a totenkopf!


I have better idea for boy Georgies 61st birthday..deliver the bodies of 61 mutilated dead soldiers from Iraq war to White House..HAPPY BIRTHDAY murderer


As usual the US Media gives bit and pieces of fact while omitting important information. They fail to mention in this piece that not only was Randy Weaver's son Sammy murdered by a BATF agent, but his wife Vicki was also shot through the head and killed instantly while she clutched her baby girl in her arms. Vicki was unarmed at the time and standing within the privacy of her home -- clearly no threat to anyone.

The FBI sniper who murdered her broke the FBI's rules of engagement yet was never tried for her murder as a judge ruled that he should have been.

Federal Marshal Monier is clearly lying to the public about not wanting to attack the Brown's.

The Brown's would have been dead already if their dog walker had not been shot at which alerted the Brown's to the fact that the FEDS had indeed illegally entered their property.

What we have playing out in Plainfield, New Hampshire at the present time is another Waco or Ruby Ridge in the making.

Americans need to pay very close attention to this situation, since the Brown's were found guilty of a non crime. There is no law authoriziing the IRS to collect federal income taxes and there never has been. It has been operating illegally for the past 94 years.

See Aaron Russo's superb documentary on this situation which is entited: American From Freedom To Fascism. You can see it for free on Google Video.

See it today.

Jim


The Totenkopf symbol dates back to Frederick the Great and the 18th century. Yes, it was probably a poor choice, but it doesn't mean anything insidious.

I realize this site's very existance is based on jumping to conclusions, but perhaps next time you'll do your research first


Hello, stupid people.

I am not gone, just on a break.

jbrid, did you get your foil hat from Gabe? I hear he has plenty of them.

LOL, retards


Here's a little something I think might be of interest to both religious thought as well as you UFO non-believers // taken right from the Holy Bible, King James Version:

(NOTE; Pay special attention to EZEKIEL (below) quoted only in part for easy read) --

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the SONS OF GOD CAME IN UNTO THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
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2 Kings 2:10 ***behold, there APPEARED A CHARIOT OF FIRE, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder, and Elijah WENT UP by a whirlwind into heaven.
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2 Kings 6:17 *** and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and CHARIOTS OF FIRE round about Elisha.
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2 Samuel 22:7 ***And he rode upon a cherub, and DID FLY and he was SEEN UPON THE WINGS of the wind***and THICK CLOUDS of the skies. Through the brightness before him were coals of FIRE kindled.
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Ezekiel 1:15 Now as I BEHELD the living CREATUES, behold one WHEEL upon the earth BY the living creatures, with four faces. The appearance of the WHEELS and THEIR WORK was like unto the colour of a BERYL(*) and they four had one likeness, and their appearance and their work was as it were a WHEEL IN THE MIDDLE OF A WHEEL***As for their RINGS, they were so HIGH that they were dreadful, and their RINGS WERE FULL OF EYES ROUND ABOUT THEM four. And when the LIVING CREATURES WENT, the WHEELS WENT BY THEM, and when the living creatures WERE LIFTED UP FROM THE EARTH, THE WHEELS WERE LIFTED UP.
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*beryl (Wesbter's Dictionary): A mineral composed chiefly of beryllium (etc) ...

beryllium (Webster's Dictionary): A lightweight, corrosion-resistant, rigid, steel-gray METALLIC element.
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>>>US has been controlling Israel since at least 1948...

Declassified "FIRECRACKER" document reveals the threats and desires of US to force Israel into not accepting the Abullah/UK peace accord between Jewish and Arab Palestinian land.

It seems that our current policy of threats and intimmidation (also murder of peaceful Israeli PM), may have originated from this new FIRECRACKER document...

Prior to the Firecracker document, there was at least 3 years of peace efforts to halt any further terrorism against palestinians and recognition of the suffering the jews had from nazi policies:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1
Here was the 15 page top secret document from the US explaining that they had overall command and control of the Israel/Palestinian situation due to security risks to the US if communism were to infiltrate the area (vietnam anyone???)
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/ whi...ollectionid=ROI
David K. Niles' notes of Dean Rusk's comments about the recognition of Israel
Note: Niles wanted US to move forward with the UK plan to allow each people to have their own official state. Warmongering secretary of state Dean Rusk said that the US sould only allow "truteeship" to the land and not allow each people to govern their own land. Rusk was determined to defeat the peace accord by UK/Arab nations/Palestiniansd and Jews in the area
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/ whi...ollectionid=ROI
Then the tensions rise when a NY councilman with mob ties to Abner Zwillman lays on the guilt:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1
However, Truman seems in agreement with the British Palestinian Accord on May 11th 1948
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/ whi...ollectionid=ROI

Needing to act quickly, the real military industrial complex hawks get into action with this "FIRECRACKER" document:
Alternatives of how to make peace between the Arabs and the Jews in Palestine, May 11, 1948

Page One has Lovett (outgoing secretary of defense in 1952) telling Clark Clifford (incoming Secretary of Defense 1952 - Harriman set him up) not to show it to anyone:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1

Then page 3-6 reads like PNAC/AEI wrote it...
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
fear...
We need to control the area....
They are working around us with peace deals
should we blockade...
they are getting weapons from elsewhere other than US...
should we intervene...
this could represent the greatest threat to our national security (sound familiar?)...

For those of you who do not know, Lovett worked with Bush Sr. in terror campaigns in the middle east and south america. Lovett is one of the pioneers in Middle East and South America false flag initiatives (as well as Gladio and others). This document gives a little more info to understand why after 50 years, teo types of people who have lived in peace for at least 1,000 years have been continually fighting. The Jews and Arabs lived together for at least 1,000 years without the problems we have seen for the past 50 years.

If you look at our support of Sunni/Shia tension to create more arms sales (Iran/Contra-now Al-Qaeda/Iran/Hamas funding), we may have an awakening. We may wake up to realize that black ops authority within our foreign policy directives have not only started the Jewish/Arab conflicts, they have made them exponentially worse.

For more of the declassified documents, go here:

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...d=ROI& pagenumbe


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It would not surprise me if the COINTEL plan to heard the jews in the Hallibutron/Dubai concentration camps was not developed on this naval base:
http://maps.google.com/maps?clie...7&t=k&z=18& om=1

But we all know the plan (I like to call it Operation "Prescott's Final Solution") was being developed for decades by the Nazi Paperclip scientists working at NASA and other covert government agencies.

More here:

http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88081
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88083
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88084
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88090
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88091
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88094
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88097
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88103
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88105


Concentration Camps
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88106
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88107
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88108

Escape of "terrorists:"
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88111

More...
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88117
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88133
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88147
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=26392#88156


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Commence bombing ...

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Yup Prescott's Final Solution COINTELPRO agents [actually only one with 10 different nicks]. They are forced to bubble up the anti-semitic rhetoric so that when Cheney's next false flag terror attack goes off, jews can be blamed this time (instead of Arabs last time). They will be taken by train to the 600 concentration camps that Halliburton/Cheney is building. They figure do the concentration camp thing with a race that is used to it.

These COINTELPRO agents continue to pass on statements that make the "one-race" connection just like they did with the Arab/Osama bin Laden connection. It worked before, they usually stick with things that have worked. Cheney will set off at least 5 more false flag incidents in Israel (kidnapping, suicide bomber, US trained insurgent, others). Israeli pilots will be sent in to attack innocents, 75% will refuse to fire, but 25% discharge of US depleated uranium shells is enough to continue the distraction from the over 1,000,000 innocent deaths caused by cheney.

Why do you think people post with no references, no logic, cut and paste other people's quotes to fit their agenda, use multiple nicks as if there was more than one agent? This is COINTELPRO all the way. They convinced many that if they connected semites with 911 then people would stop asking questions. This allowed many in the know about 911 to agree to blame the jews (even murdoch and redstone).

But the real plan is unfolding as continued rhetoric blames one race even after the cat is out of the bag that 9/11 was an inside job.

So the plan is now revealed...
1. Do 911
2. Overpursue Arabs (just like overpursuing jews allowed israel alone to be a country when the plan was for both israel and palestine to exist in 1948 )
3. As the truth comes out that the arabs did not do it, find another scapegoat race quickly before the barbarians get too close to the truth.
4. Link all the puppets that are in that race (not the masters or other puppets who have different races) to the incident.
5. Leek info about false flags blaming only one race as if they invented false flags.


It is essential to present one race as being the main culprit. This follows all of Illuminati's standard game plans:
-KKK
-German Nazi Party
-Anti American Indian Group
-Modern Neo Nazi
-Al-Qaeda
-Zionists
-Nation of Islam (elijah muhammed)

Of course this is only a veil that hides the true interest of total enslavement and control by illuminati and NWO.

Same formula with interchangeable races.

Make sure to take out all your gold fillings so that they don't rip your teeth out on the trains or at the COncentration I mean FEMA Halliburton Cheney Death Camps...
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=12471#88108
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=12471#88107
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=12471#88106

Why do you think MSNBC runs 4 hours of "lock-up" every night...

So you can see your future and when it becomes the present, you will think it is normal.

WAKE UP!


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Awaiting more jew-bashing mind-controlled double-speak.....


And if you are going to tell me it is the Khazars, then I guess you should begin rounding people up based on race specific indicators.....

And how can mere race be the issue??

The only issue here is "evil"....
And it comes in all shapes, sizes, and colors.....


Anyone wanna try answering the simple question, what do you mean by saying "JEW" over and over??

If you are not going to be specific, you are really doing us a disservice. How can you expect us to get the ovens ready?? Furthermore, most people don't go around saying they are members of the Illuminati. So obviously it would be quite frivolous for our inditements to do any real damage to them as a whole apart from going after their "activities" and educating the public. However, your continual broad-brushing of "JEWS" is very RECKLESS and will lead to the savage killing of innocent JEWS. Unless of course you really believe there are none that are innocent.

Please do let us know so we can quote you from now on....
How you gonna manage getting all the "good" JEWS out of the ovens when your RECKLESS remarks about JEWS are generally and broadly applied nearly every time you speak of "JEWS"???
YOU should use a caveat each and every time you try to indite the entire race and religion. Otherwise, you are just inciting hatred and violence and playing right into Biblical prophecy. But perhaps that is your real motive anyway....
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Besides, this was already addressed by Revelation chapter 2:9.
Read it. It describes those who say they are Jew and are NOT, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Sounds to me like your "real" problem is Satan, not JEWS!!

Again,
We face two very real threats:
1) The threat of "real" terrorism as a result of the current and not so current policy of stirring shit up in the Middle East.
2) The even "bigger" threat of the power hungry elitist oligarchy using the threat of terrorism to leverage their own power base and grow it in the face of an extorted population.

And, you can include using hatred directed at "JEWs" as leverage against a misguided public to further stimulate the BEAST system into action.

And no it is not a vast JEWISH CONSPIRACY!!
Because if it were, we'd be operating by the laws of GOD and not secular humanist politics.... That is the true definition of a Jew. And that is what you hate. But try and find the truth in you own reprobate minds. And you will end up with the New World Order. The same thing you pretend to despise.

What a joke!

Now. Ignore the double-speak mind-control of the jew-bashers who even stoop so low as to enshroud themselves in the company of scripture and pretend to be what they are not.

Scroll on....

Here is the truth. Read it and weap.

And the lake of fire (all consuming) burning or not, is the lake of truth that will cast judgement on the wicked and the ungodly for all eternity, and they shall be removed from the presence of God - which is "Life" and "Love" (and the both more abundantly and eternally)..... Forever and ever......AMEN.

~REGARDING THE HYSTERIA OVER "JEWS" AND THE ZIONIST PLOT~
Can anyone see that this 9-11 truth is being divided "right now" into two prevailing camps? One that looks at it from pure Zionist agenda and the other that sees the Illuminati orchestrating the Zionists among other NWO factions? The division will grow worse and worse until finally those who helped expose this system for what it is will be branded, labeled, and rounded up along with the religious zealots.

Those of you who are so busy implicating the Jews never seem to get it. A real "Jew" has nothing to due with corruption and evil which you portray. Your description of such betrays the very essence of what it means to be "JEW"! You may as well be talking about fanciful creatures in some mythical land of harpies and unicorns. You begin by making this distinction at first (if we are lucky), but ultimately you are fundamentally at ease with making NO such distinction between those who pretend and those who genuinely fit the description of "JEW" once you've settled in and gotten comfortable. You will regret this one day. Perhaps these same "Jews" would have rescued you in your time of need. And believe me, that time is coming.

You see. They imagine they have all their bases covered (so they think). They can blame WWIII on Muslims and Christians (mainstream Christianity essentially co-opted by Bush and Co. who claims Jesus is central figure in personal life). And they can further blame the whole orchestration of world tyranny on the "JEWS", since according to the other half of 9-11 truth - JEWS are the "real" problem.... PERFECT HIT PIECE FOR SATAN. LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES.....

AND THEN THEY WILL FULFILL THE PROPHECIES OF THE BIBLE, THAT EVIDENTLY THEY HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF, OR THEY WOULD NOT CONTINUE IN VAIN FULFILLING THEM ONE BY ONE....

AND ONE DAY THEY WILL GATHER IN THE VALLEY FOR THEIR ARMEGEDDON WHICH THEY PRETEND TO THWART EVEN NOW AS THEY ATTACK THE VERY PEOPLE WHO WOULD LEAD THEM TO TRUE PEACE.....

To them, there is a "Jew" under every rock......And they will leave no stone unturned looking for "JEWS"!


Coming Soon to a Mall Near You: Dadullah’s “Suicide Bomber” Grads

Kurt Nimmo
Tuesday June 19, 2007
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Hey Kurt Prpoganda Nimmo...

Didn't you mean CIA suicide schools.


Meet Bush's World Bank Nominee - PNAC Member, Bilderberg Attendee, CFR Member, Trilateral Commission Member, NAFTA Architect and Enron Advisor Robert Zoellick: Steve Watson PP.

“Like Wolfowitz, Zoellick is a Globalist all rounder and a member of the hawkish neo-conservative think tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC), who pushed hard to invoke the notion that evil foreign enemies who hated America, should be preemptively dealt with.”

Podhoretz like Wolfowitz and Zoellick is a Jew and a warmonger who believes that, "…the plain and brutal truth is that if Iran is to be prevented from developing a nuclear arsenal, there is no alternative to the actual use of military force. Since a ground invasion of Iran must be ruled out for many different reasons, the job would have to be done, by a campaign of air strikes."

"President George W Bush has given the CIA approval to launch covert "black" operations to achieve regime change in Iran, intelligence sources have revealed. Mr Bush has signed an official document endorsing CIA plans for a propaganda and disinformation campaign intended to destabilize, and eventually topple, the theocratic rule of the mullahs."PP.com

In 1978 Saddam Hussein declared that the eastern bank up to high ground above the waterline on The Shat al Arab Waterway, would be the new Iran Iraq border. Hitherto the borders of both countries terminated at high ground either side of the waterway, the Marsh Arabs who dwelt in the delta had citizenship of both countries. The ensuing war had biblical dimensions with a USS Liberty style Iraqi attack on a US warship that left some twenty five sailors dead, and the US downing of an Iranian airliner with pilgrims bound for Mecca, the aircraft was flying on a scheduled flight on a well traveled route, and had entered airspace above a US cruiser which fired a surface to air missile, all on board died.

So now in 2007 they are gonna be shocked and awed… I don’t think so.

Every man woman and child will use shoulder fired anti aircraft rockets to blast the planes out of the sky. Anti ship missiles should send the aircraft carriers to the bottom. Then under the rules of war and in response to US aggression, the mainland USA would be a legitimate target.

GWB: US forces are seriously over stretched in the region now… The Jews did 911… It’s probably not wise to go yelling out about it at the White House but they did… they also stole the money from the pentagon in a sting that got buried under 911, which was from their point of view a massive and enormously profitable insurance fraud… Now they want you to deploy the last reserves of American manpower into the region to witness nuked into oblivion, by Israel supplied nuclear weapons, which armchair strategists all over the world will tell you proliferate in the region… As well as that the wogs are about the most treacherous people on the face of the Earth… In Pakistan political rivals routinely set each other up on phony capital charges… Vale President Bhutto, father of Benhazir Bhutto, who was herself ousted from high government position for taking bribes from arms companies, Israel that is. Iran and Iraq were both toppled in various staged public events, that used the same language and tapped into the same emotional base that keeps football clubs on the road. They want you to enter a vast trap.

Look out for trouble like in the schools in Amish county and Virginia Tech, while the communities menfolk are away fighting the interminable wars, started by the Zionazi for their own ends. Look at genocide abortion, check the statistics then check the relationship between African and European America, check the illegal immigrants… Not according to them are they illegal, simply returning to the homelands stolen by European settlers is their response. Conflict between Hispanic and European communities is best expressed by the Hispanic cop who put three slugs into and killed, an Ivy League type white boy in San Diego. Seek that vid on utube or Google. Have another look at the foreign troops on US soil and the Somali’s in Canada, death squads landed by chopper simultaneously at ten thousand schools would within hours put paid to European dominance on the North American mainland... Picture Israel nuking American cities.


Negroponte Exposed as Terrorist: PJW at PP reports that recent bombings of civilian targets in Iraq are at the behest of John Negroponte, US Deputy Secretary of State. A similar bombing has now left dozens dead and scores injured in Afghanistan.

Murdoch and Co will have you believe an internecine struggle between Shia and Sunni sects within the Moslem infrastructure of Iraq, supported on the Shia side by Iran attempting to establish hegemony in the area, is at the heart of the problem. That is total BS.

Iraqi’s Accuse U.S. Of Bombing al-Askari Shrine in Samarra,: Both Sunnis and Shia say bombing a plot to incite sectarian violence. SW PP June 13 2007. …the site has been heavily guarded by about 60 Federal Protection Service forces and 25 local Iraqi police and closed to the public since it was attacked last year in a bombing which many also believed to be the work of US forces. …The explosion took place this morning under two minarets in a very similar way to the Golden Dome bombing more than a year ago. …Just this week it was revealed that the US is arming its own cadre of Sunni insurgents in Iraq.

Scott Makufka and Victor Thorn are one, photo’s reveal a Stetson wearing dude up front on the dais at 911 meets, he resembles Jack Abramov and the headware is said to be in response to his self image as an orthodox Jew. Picture Makufka Thorn is Mossad boss in North America and coordinator of all Mossad ops on the mainland, including 911. He arranged Bollyn’s high level meetings in Israel, wherein the Odigo revelations detailing the four thousand Jews who had the day off on 911, and Jew investment in put options emerged. He’s chief spammer on this site. himself the others are Makufka Thorn dummies.

I think that we should love and support the people of the Jewish race, who are victims of propaganda. They are just normal folk like you and me. Don't buy into the "hate the Jews" crap. Get to know some Jewish people. Make friends. Love them. Gabriel Alan King | 05.26.07 - 4:49 am | #

Seems the Jew friends of those killed at the WTC on 911, after bidding them a fine and friendly farewell on the Monday evening. Stayed away from work the next day aware that the attacks were to happen, then watched their immolation live on TV... That’s why I hate the sonsa bitches… What have y’all got to say about that, pukebelly gak.

When are y’all Jews gonna get involved with Katherine Schweitzer’s murder… No to vivisection!!


My record is OK I dislike clichés but you can not make an omelet without breaking eggs. I perceive Israel as guilty both of perpetrating the Holocaust and causing both world wars, and see the Ashkenazi as a marauding tribe from the steppes of Asia, and 911 as only one of a series of outrages ultimately traceable to Zionist Ashkenazi interests. Which I separate from Jewish interests.

I express that as best I can. MT

There's Jews hiding everywhere! I just found one in my closet. At first, he tried to tell me he wasn't a Jew. But I found a hardcopy of the "Talmud" on him, pocket edition. So I got out the halogen lights and waterboarded him until he confessed! Gabriel Alan King | 05.26.07 - 9:33 pm | #

There will be guilty hiding everywhere, when an identity is proven, checked with bonded Justice Department records, and matched to an investor in any of the Mossad run, Zionazi inspired schemes identified by the Securities and Investments people as having been in place, and made profits aware that the attacks were to happen They will be arrested, then tried in a court of capital jurisdiction, then hanged. Going by the evidence I would expect quite a number of Jew executions. Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 05.28.07 - 3:25 pm | #

"Checked with bonded Justice Department records" - I have a faint idea this is reference to some "hidden" documents that show who really did 9-11... Care to retort??? sane | 05.28.07 - 4:11 pm | #

As prosecutions take place and as executions begin, voluntary testimony made by persons who will be subsequently executed will be bonded by The Justice Department, and will remain valid evidence in a court of law.

Thus women admitting that they conspired with such and such a doctor at such and such a clinic to commit abortion child murder, will of course be executed, later down the track when the doctor is located, his record as an employee at such and such a clinic will be presented to the court along with the bonded evidence of the by then dead women. Bonded evidence that will result in a great many execution deaths.

Jonbenet Ramsay appears nude in highly revealing photo spreads on internet porn sites. She was sexually assaulted and murdered during the 1990’s her father reported discovering her body at home, he has since used court judgments obtained by high priced lawyers to avoid providing a DNA sample.

Update: The photos all appear to have been taken during the same session, the latest to appear is a poor quality video of her engaging in sexual intercourse with a male person 5’ 8”, aged late thirties to early forties, little fat, semi muscular build, medium length thinning dark hair. Likely her father, alleging her death took place during this session, he filmed the event and posted the footage on the internet. Shame on the FBI.

It is my belief Semites control internet porn. If Miss Ramsay’s photographs were taken the day she was murdered and some Jew webmaster has been peddling pictures or movies of the event, and the whole conspiracy were to be prosecuted in a court of capital jurisdiction, the death toll could be horrendous.


My understanding has been the Ashkenazi Jews who are not necessarily recognized as Jews at all, since Their origins reside among a Central Asian tribe called the Khazars, who converted to the Jewish faith from about 740 AD. Usurped the function of Judah by using their numbers, firstly to infiltrate the traditional or Sephardic congregations and Synagogues that they encountered. Then to push the line subsequently called Zionism, that a political state should be established in Palestine, despite the fact that the formation of such a state is forbidden in Jewish Law, unless it be established by The Messiah.

And as well as genocide against the Palestinians from 1948 continuing until the present day, they are prepared to kill any and all who oppose them. Vale Katherine Schweitzer, and the Koestler's husband and wife. The victims gassed in the Nazi death chambers would have been those Jews who opposed Zionism whether Ashkenazi or not.

Kobi Alexander was one of the owners and developers of Odigo software which allowed Israelis to communicate instantly on 9/11. It was via the "buddy system" on Odigo software, which allows one to communicate to a large group of people that share a trait, such as the Hebrew language, that thousands of Israelis were warned not to go to the twin towers on 9/11.


The Pharisees caused their own people to be gassed in the millions during WW2, only some Jews were gassed... Witness Moshe Dyan Kaplan’s testimony re his Amsterdam family emerging unscathed, his claim to be a Pharisee and his contempt for those Jews who were gassed, Cheesies he called them since their diet consisted largely of that product. He said they had been gassed at Auschwitz, and indicated that as far as he was concerned they were neither missed nor mourned.

And the testimony of Katherine Schweitzer a Hungarian Jewish lady from Budapest, she was last seen alive 22 December 2006 she went public re her whole family being arrested in 1944 by a Jew member of Horsha, the Hungarian thug police, and deported to Auschwitz. Only she survived that place, she said on TV that the Jew who arrested her was living a few doors up on the same street in Sydney.

We say that Katherine Schweitzer by Jew elements in reprisal for telling the truth, after I had published the above story on November 30 2006, concerned her testimony would encourage other survivors of the so called Holocaust to do the same. And to warn any other Jews who want the truth to come out just what the consequences will be. Maybe Fritz-Harry Cremer is a Mossad agent and perhaps he talked his way into her apartment and murdered her. It would be a perfect way for Jewish community to demonstrate cooperation with broader society by assisting to prosecute this matter. Israeli sources should have information on of Fritz-Harry Cremer for instance.

Benjamin Freedman, writes that The Talmud is a relatively modern document, the references he quotes must be seen as endorsing hatred against the Christian community. Arthur Koestler’s famous book The Thirteenth Tribe, appears to confirm Freedman’s assertion that much of the worldly strife in the past several hundreds of years, is the result of friction between the Khazar people of Eastern Europe who converted to Judaism in 740 AD. And the Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of Abraham and indigenous to the Middle East. Koestler and his wife both appear to have been murdered shortly after the publication of that book.

G. Neuburger… Thus physical violence is not a tradition or a value of the Jews. The task for which the Jewish people were chosen is not to set an example of military superiority or technical achievements, but to seek perfection in moral behavior and spiritual purity. Of all the crimes of political Zionism, the worst and most basic, and which explains all its other misdeeds, is that from its beginning Zionism has sought to separate the Jewish people from their G-d, to render the divine covenant null and void, and to substitute a "modern" statehood and fraudulent sovereignty for the lofty ideals of the Jewish people.


Abortion… This model sees the demise of the entire abortion lobby at the gallows.

This is in response to genocide that has been carried out in abortion clinics, and to murder on the streets. It is a call to Islam to wage war in defense of human life, and warns the guilty their lives are forfeit in accordance with AL-ISLAM. Expect the number of executions to be in the millions. Anticipate the demise of virtually the entire medical, political and law enforcement establishments, and the fulfillment of the prophesy of Jesus Christ that, ‘...children shall rise up against their parents and shall put them to death...’ and prepare for a new age of human history.

AL-ISLAM is fealty or fidelity to the law of God. Those who live by Islam, as did Jesus of Nazareth and before him the prophet Abraham, who built the Kaba in the Arabian city of Mecca, an edifice toward which the faithful or those with fealty to God's law turn during prayers, are called Moslems. Moslems must now be responsive to the command from God, transliterated from spoken revelation and recorded in The Koran, to wage war upon those who first wage war upon them. The killings taking place within the abortion & euthanasia industries are acts or warfare upon the people, and remain crimes against humanity.

Governments should view this document as an ultimatum. They have only a certain time to get their act together and respond to the demands made herein. That they get down to the nitty gritty of prosecuting the killer doctors, and the police, and the politicians who have committed, or facilitated, or neglected their duty, as police or as state employees, to investigate or prosecute, crimes against humanity, abortion euthanasia. Then lets just see who gave you all the right to cull the population.

You all suicidals who want to enter Hell with your local GP holding your hand, will just have to resort to tried and true methods that have succeeded in days past, you might like to stretch a rope to the rafters of your dwelling and hang yourselves. And you coppers might as well load up the trusty service revolver, insert the barrel into your gob, and squeeze the trigger, since your fate is just as certain under the strictures of Islamic law.

Proceed in the following way, advance on premises where genocide / abortion is taking place, there all persons on the premises will be arrested on capital charges that will be heard under Islamic jurisdiction. As arrests are taking place it is anticipated that abortion staff will contact police, such police that turn up armed, and attempt to thwart arrests will be fired upon, rocket and artillery fire will be directed at police vehicles and buildings. Jihad… the wars of the Antichrist will have begun.


Readers will be familiar with my claim to have been dead, to have returned from death after having met Jesus and Alexander The Great… that Allah called me, and that I toured Hell. All true. So when I was about fourteen he tells me he has chosen me as his messenger, when I key this stuff in he leads me. The following is from a publication titled Sword of Islam, which I produced from about 1995 till 2001 and distributed by hand, then put on the net in 2004.

Neil Brinleigh Williams is called The Beast because of his brutal strength, his inhuman tolerance to pain, and because of monstrous acts of violence he is reputed to have carried out. He is not a bad man, one might argue brutal strength is useful aboard ship where the Docker earns his bread, tolerance to pain must be a matter of pride, and suppose he should say that such violence as occurred was in self defense. The reformed FSPDU policy is that members provide evidence of their membership, thus baseball hats and hardhat stickers featuring the members union number are in use, thus number 1 is Martin Timothy, while the number of The Beast is 666. Thus Martin Timothy fulfils the prophesy of The Antichrist.

The 1997 edition of SOI is reproduced in full at http://www.dockersunion.com >Journals >1997 >The Antichrist Edition. Re Drugs >Marijuana >Bible >Genesis >plants_bearing_seeds_lawful.

Go to Homepage for a true chronicle of Hell.


9-11 The Explosive Reality: Blockbuster video with essential WTC 6 evidence... Missile at 5m 50 sec... Dense dust and smoke rising from ground level, identified as fallout from the missile explosion, both towers are still visible in the background at 15:46... An official refusing the construction industry’s Emergency Response Group access to Building seven, keeping them waiting all day till the building collapsed… reports of bodies strewn about in Bldg 7… Most alarming of all, a man with a strong Serbo-Croatian accent helmeted, in a green military uniform blocked a news television camera with his hand, and told the reporter that the tower was coming down, and said "...nothing informations." at 1 hr 09 min. A foreign mercenary soldier on the street in New York the day the WTC came down...

The shots of the Pentagon taken immediately after impact and before the damaged facade had collapsed, showed a hole about the size of a suburban garage... No sign of a plane at all. And no trace of a plane in Pennsylvania, despite continuing assertion that The Happy Schmooligans blasted one out of the sky, plenty of paper strewn across the landscape and burn marks in the trees, but no plane.

Flight 93 was reported by 9 News landing in Cleveland Hopkins Airport & confirmed by U.S. Airlines... "A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White. White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated. United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did not say how many people were aboard the flight."


Christopher Bollyn: …A massive explosion devastated World Trade Center 6, the eight-story U.S. Customs building, the unexplained blast occurred between the burning North Tower and the 47-story Salomon Brothers Building, known as WTC 7, immediately after United Airlines Flight 175 smashed into the South Tower, at about 9:03 a.m.

Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower, is believed to be a Tomahawk Cruise Missile which impacted WTC 6 moments later… Most visible at this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...related& search=

…as the second jet rammed its target, ‘…That was an explosion,’ says Stephen McArdle a tax consultant, from inside the Marriot Hotel, he was taping as part of an FBI sting operation. …Then comes a longer and much louder explosion. Greg Smith 2002. The second explosion is in fact the detonation of the missile’s warhead…

This is the Jew response: “…Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower...” Aw crap. 1984 | 06.13.07 - 10:31 pm | #

Jack White’s 911 Studies: The South Tower was hit at 9:03, at 9:04 CNN televised a significant explosion between the North Tower and Building 7 the location of WTC 6, the 8-Story Customs House… Photo: a pyroclastic cloud in an inner city environment, caption… while onlookers were distracted by the events at skyscraper level, moments after the second plane hit the South Tower, WTC 6 was torn apart by a massive explosion. The crater in the building was eight stories deep, an immense hole blasted into the sub basements… all eight stories missing… no wreckage… blown away… Vaporized by the missiles thermonuclear warhead.

Dr. Gene Corley, one of the engineers who led the investigation, told AFP The Customs House had a huge crater in its center. Corley said he had not seen the photos of the extremely high-speed missile-like object seen streaking toward WTC 6 from behind the North Tower as the second plane hit the South Tower. He noted that parts of the plane’s landing gear and an engine passed through the South Tower, and landed several blocks away. These objects, however, had a distinctly different trajectory from the streaking missile-like object.


Super explosives that can withstand 800 degrees celsius without melting, auto-igniting or decomposing brought down WTC 7.
Passenger filled airline seats were attached to a missile and then the missile blows up in the E-ring. Then the missile reforms itself and smashes through the D-ring before lodging in the C-ring.
Completely believeable theories, ROFLMAO.


A sixteen year old girl was reportedly beheaded for adultery in Iran recently. That is a corruption of the law...

Under Islamic law capital retribution is only demanded in cases of capital rape... read of gang rape by Lebanese civilians on the Streets of Sydney... Not when some crazy has taken it upon him or herself to prosecute death upon a family member who has fallen in love. Relationships out side of marriage are dealt with thus, from The Koran: “…let the adulterer and the adulteress both receive a hundred lashes.” Jesus was conceived in one such union.


AFP reports that certain Jews in the government not only tried to cover up Israeli involvement in the attacks, but also have ties to Israeli intelligence. From the very morning aircraft smashed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, news reports have indicated Israeli intelligence was involved. The mechanism that planted 'false flag' evidence like an alleged hijackers passport recovered intact adjacent to the WTC site, was in place and ready firstly to blame alleged Arab terrorists, then to both ignore vital and obvious evidence re the report of the forty seven storey Salomon Brothers building collapsing some minutes prior to the collapse of building seven, and to mold public opinion via the Murdoch media empire to support the pre-planned war on terror.

On his Web site, Israel Shamir writes: "There is no case to presume existence of Islamic Terror at all, until we come to 9/11, when President Bush proclaimed its existence and announced the World Wide Muslim Conspiracy of al Qaeeda. The perpetrators of the 9/11 are still unknown to us... On the other hand, there is an accumulating evidence of Israeli Connection. Israel utilized the 9/11 events to its full capacity: present massacre in the Palestinian cities is described as 'the war on terror'. The Muslim neighbors of Israel were terrorized into passivity by the American rage. Destruction of Afghanistan raised the threshold of the world sensitivity to horror, and made possible the present invasion of Palestinian cities."

Hamas is a tool of Israeli aggression against the Palestinian homeland, and is the aggressor in the present Palestinian conflict... The indigenous population of Palestine be they Jew, Christian, Moslem, or Druze must rise as one and pull the walls down and charge into the Israeli ranks, take as many into slavery as you can take alive, then tear down their buildings and smash their infrastructure.


Feel free to point out one, just one logical flaw in my posts… anti-Semitic monkeys in your head. I will be more than happy to respond. sane | 05.28.07.

"While no one knows for certain how many Jews were killed on Sept. 11, the most reliable estimates put the number at about 400. This despite the blasphemy spread in the Arab world that no Jews perished, having been warned by the Mossad agents who supposedly carried out the attacks." sane | 05.28.07 - 2:49 am | # >

Alon Pinkas, Israel's consul general confirmed that only three Israelis were killed in the 9-11-01 WTC attacks. Two Israelis were killed in the two planes which crashed into the towers, and one Israeli, who had been visiting one of the World Trade Center towers on business, was killed. Edward Hendrie.

“Feel free to point out one, just one logical flaw in my posts…” The number of Jew dead at the WTC was one… not four hundred…


Scroll down truthers... the spammers are Mossad agents who fill these forum boards with trash hoping to bury hard copy... The Jews did 911 for profit!


Bombs in Iraq… US Forces on killfest offensive… Hamas secured the occupied territories as their Israeli masters offend against the Palestinian homeland… Freddy Fatt cares, The Koran exhorts the faithful to hurl truth against falsehood… that’s what Freddy does… So where is everyone else… There were hundreds of thousands of witnesses to the 911 attacks Willie Rodriguez went public so where is everyone else… Who owned the cars that exploded on FDR Drive, who else saw the missile strike… It looks like a Tomahawk class cruise missile, taking a look at the damage to WTC 5 and 6 on high resolution photographs, it looks like multiple high speed thermonuclear warheads blast an opening, thru which goes the slower central armament with a larger thermonuclear device designed to get at the strategic target below. One concrete panel inside the devastated WTC 6 appears to be partially vaporized, a shallow concave surface defining the spherical dimension of the thermonuclear fusion.

All y’all out there… the whole place is gonna go to Hell in a handbasket, US forces on land and at sea are gonna be wiped out if they attack Iran, the paper money they print to pay their mercenary armies has so devalued the greenback that the real value is thought to be one US cent. The value will fall further as the carriers go to the bottom, then become meaningless as the armies that are already in place in the US are mobilized to attack the schools, and European dominance on the North American mainland is over.

Stir yourselves you all.

Agriculture, writing, and the domestication of animals all originated in the Tigris Euphrates region called Iraq, the tribes that have been located there since the time of Adam, are the Sunni. The Shia are every one else, the Sunni are often don’t do the manual chores, so they have been bringing in workers from other places for centuries, these workers do not usually attend Sunni mosques which are most often built and maintained by a single extended family. They usually attend to their religious affairs in Mosques that are located in working class areas of the city, that have become known as Shia Mosques. At no time has war or conflict between the two sectors of society been permitted, either under secular law or within the strictures of Islam, and all parties are aware that murder is met with speedy and deadly retaliation, according to the instruction in The Koran.

Murdoch and Co will have you believe an internecine struggle between Shia and Sunni sects within the Moslem infrastructure of Iraq, supported on the Shia side by Iran attempting to establish hegemony in the area, is at the heart of the problem. That is total BS.

PJW at PP reports that recent bombings of civilian targets in Iraq are at the behest of John Negroponte US Deputy Secretary of State. A similar bombing has now left dozens dead and scores injured in Afghanistan. Iraqi’s Accuse U.S. Of Bombing al-Askari Shrine in Samara,: Both Sunnis and Shia say the bombings are plot to incite sectarian violence.

C4 has been in the gruesome car bombings in Iraq. Asked about those and the dozens of civilian bodies that turn up daily, Iraqi Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani, laid responsibility for the deaths, including gruesome beheadings of civilians, at the feet of the unregulated force of one hundred and fifty thousand private security contractors. Fourteen thousand of whom are from Ahmad Chalabi’s Iraqi Free Forces, the remainder are from paramilitary forces with some of the worst human rights records in the world: South Africa, Colombia, Salvador, and Chile, and ex regular special forces from the United Kingdom, United States, Israel, Nepal, Fiji, and the Philippines. Beheadings, such as those seen in Iraq, are a hallmark of the Nepalese Gurkhas.


http://www.infowars.com/print/ nw...sive_arnold.htm

Some more (misc.) on ARNOLD:

***EXTRACT***
Wow, it really makes your head spin. This guy hangs out with former UN chiefs and the Rothschilds. His mother is married to the head of the Austrian Parliament and he is married to JFK's niece. Nevertheless, all his Nazi connections are swept under the rug and the Republican party could care less about Arnold's own published admissions of orgies, drug use, and posing naked for homosexual porno magazines.

(Well, after all, he is a member of the Bohemian Grove where group sex is par for the course.)

In a 1977 interview for OUI Magazine, published by Playboy, Arnold described to a national magazine how he and many other men all piled on one woman at Gold Gym's in Venice. When asked whether he used drugs, Schwarzenegger replied "yes, grass and hash." Schwarzenegger then went on to describe how posing for gay magazines was a great thing.

Can you imagine what would happen to an anti-establishment candidate if they had 10% of the baggage that Arnie does? They would be dragged through the mud and their political career would disintegrate. But if you are a water bearer for globalist's fat cats, you can do no wrong. Kurt Waldheim was a Nazi soaked in blood and the UN loved and defended him. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, received and gave awards to Adolf Hitler and was responsible for barbaric eugenic programs nationwide. But it's okay, because they work for the New World Order.


Sane I so love Queen.


http://100777.com/node/1481 What is this?


Ever since mention of that possible masonic ring on Arnold's finger -- I have been searching the web 'like crazy' trying to connect the two. Seems to be more than just a good possibility but so far nothing to report that is 100-percent.

Lots of stuff out there that's for sure.


NYT delves into Rupert Murdoch empire.

“The New York Times is currently undertaking a major news investigation, led by managing editor Jill Abramson, into News Corp.’s business dealings throughout the world, according to a source with knowledge of the project.” Abramson told the New York Observer she is leading “an investigative project for the next month” and that it “involves a group of domestic and foreign reporters, but I obviously can’t tell you what it is.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...murdoch-empire/


Laura Bush Falsely Claims That ‘Many’ Iraqi Refugees Have Been Welcomed Into The U.S.

This morning, during an interview with First Lady Laura Bush, CNN highlighted World Refugee Day and the effect that the war in Iraq has had on the number of refugees around the world. CNN reported Iraqis “who were helping the Americans or even helping their own country” are now targeted and must seek “refuge in other nations, as well as the United States.”

Bush responded saying, “Obviously we’re especially concerned about the Iraqi refugees.” She added, “We welcome many of those refugees, both from Iraq and Afghanistan into the United States.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...iraqi-refugees/


Hey cointelpro I got a message for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=58CJih1iYC0


Photo Gallery
Lifestyles of the Poor and Displaced

http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...r_and_Displaced


Must-Read: Marshall Young's Front Lines Blog
Security Contractor Shares Horror Stories; Compelling, Graphic Narrative, Images
By EASON JORDAN Posted 1 hr. 47 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...ront_Lines_Blog
Photo by Marshall Young/Paratus
An Iraqi Paratus employee who was badly wounded in an attack that left him blind in both eyes.
The top three posts on Marshall Young's "Front Lines Blog" are must-read.

Young, a US Navy veteran, founded and heads the US-based security contractor Paratus, which is active in northern Iraq.

The dispatches from Iraq recount three horrific episodes, and two posts include graphic photos.

The first report is entitled "BEHEADED FOR TRYING TO HELP," the second is headlined "ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER BOMBING, ANOTHER LOSES HIS EYES," and the third is called "PLEASE, SIR - DON'T FORGET MY HAND."

Yesterday, IraqSlogger broke the news that the Iraqi Kurdistan government is appealing to the world for medical supplies needed to provide urgent medical care in northern Iraq.

Because of the top two episodes noted in his blog, Marshall Young, who was recently himself wounded in a firefight, and his Paratus team were inspired to volunteer to protect, transport, and distribute any and all medical supplies donated in response to the Iraqi Kurdistan health minister's plea.

Here's an excerpt from Young's second post:

Two of my men were stopping to buy cigarettes when two rockets slammed into the sidewalk where they were. One of the men was nearly untouched. The other had his eyes blown out of their sockets. The swollen tissues and caked blood was all that held them from dangling on his cheeks.

Some have said that writing about what I see may be “cathartic.” It isn’t. The feelings of helplessness that day will never go away. How do you help a man that you have trained with and worked with daily for months, when you know that pulling the shrapnel embedded in his eye would be nothing short of torture?

We could barely give him enough medicine because he was in such a state of shock we would have had to clear an airway and breathe for him just to relieve it.

Mind you all of this has to take place in the back seat of an SUV. The first of the three hospitals we took him to had not so much as enough tape to hold down the IV catheter put in his arm.

By the time we reached the final hospital his eye had fully migrated from the socket and stared blankly up and to the right. His iris had turned grey from the pressure and drying fluid. Even as I write this the bile starts to rise in my throat.


check out the picture of the ring "14k 3 Degree Masonic Ring" here: http://www.masonic-cufflinks.co....k/usa- rings.php


jbrid,

The ring in the picture referenced at your link (http://forums.goldenmine.com/arc....php/t- 318.html) is a totally different ring. The one in the TIME picture is clearly onyx with a gold something right in the middle of the stone.


An interesting Video of ARNOLD I'd like to share with everyone:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/46...egger_dictator/


To ANONYMOUSE --

Seems others are others also interested in this ring. Here's what I found // it's nothing really important however (became curious myself since you brought it up):
http://forums.goldenmine.com/arc....php/t- 318.html


Something went wrong in that YouTube Video I submitted of Daddy Bush and his 11 Sep 91 NWO speech. Trying again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dg9IC65MHEo


Can anyone tell me what that ring on Arnold's finger is (in the TIME cover picture)? Could it be a free mason ring?


Sane -- To try and make sense of this for you // I didn't make up the old phrase 'too much of anything is bad' -- I gave you a follow up Mark Twain quote where he even used the same in relaying his humor -- It's been around a long time. Common sense tells most of us (it does me) that too damn much of anything can be too damn much.

Chill out, please, not trying to give you a college level class on the subject (I think that's what you think you're doing for me, isn't it) // it's just a matter of the way things are.

Are we reading off of different sheets because I've said you've posted too much at any given time and that's not good? Well, to me it isn't. It's all good stuff (the links and cut and paste jobs) but it distracts and gets other post lost among all the verbage. It does. Sorry, but it does.

I think this has even gone on a bit too much, too long, personally. I'll try my best and not bring up the subject again, okay. You do what you feel is best and I'll try my best to step out of the way and let you do your thing. Not my place to try and correct you, just trying to help in my apparently unappreciated attempt. No problem. Continue as you have been, you do have some saying they appreicate what you are doing for them.

I say get off the couch and go check these things for yourself folks, You'll learn and retain far much longer in the process. You have all the resources at your disposal now and are just relying on a self-appointed spammer (doing good spam, yes) that unfortunately is apparently becoming quite stressed over all his fine efforts.

Maybe I've said too much. See what I'm talking about.


but I was playing with it first!!!!!
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New World Order
Lots of good links here if you ignore the music
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/ F...world_order.htm

Global Governance for a New Global Union
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ anal...303_global.html

Real good site with many many links in alpha order
http://100777.com/node/list

More good links
http://www.illuminati-and-911.co...m/dcontent/ 9282

Questioning the New Imperial World Order
A Hearing on the
“Project for the New American Century”
http://www.brusselstribunal.org/ ...llsTribunal.pdf

Yassir Arafat has two different resumes
http://www.usefulwork.com/shark/...ves/ 000142.html


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Am I going to have to seperate you two? LOL
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but I was playing with it first!!!!!


Here's Bush Sr on 11 Sep 91 making his infamous NWO announcement --

YouTube Video (19 seconds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dg9IC65MHEo
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Thanks I have been digging in my database to find that, but I must have it labeled as something else.


jbird it is economics 101, read about it, it should not be hard to understand. I know you mean well but you have ben conditioned like all of us to think that restrictions are necessary. It is a generational lie handed down from the pharohs. I personally have had enough of this elementarily debunkable concept.


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sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:14 pm | #

Am I going to have to seperate you two? LOL


Here's Bush Sr on 11 Sep 91 making his infamous NWO announcement --

YouTube Video (19 seconds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dg9IC65MHEo


Scarcity principle
http://changingminds.org/princip...es/ scarcity.htm
How does it work?
If something is difficult to get, then getting it demonstrates to ourselves and others that we are in control of our environment. Threatening to take something away is showing the other person that you are in control. The desire of scarcity is thus the competitive urge to maintain control.
Aristotle knew this too, commenting in his 'Rhetoric':
'That is why what comes to us only at long intervals is pleasant, whether it be a person or a thing; for it is a change from what we had before, and, besides, what comes only at long intervals has the value of rarity.'
Controlling supply and demand
If you can control supply, then you have a significant lever on demand. The De Beers company buys huge quantities of diamonds on the world market, simply to keep them scarce so that their high price is maintained.
Scarcity must mean that
If something is not scarce, then it is not desired or valued that much. Praises from a teacher who seldom praises are valued more than praises from a teacher who is liberal with his or her praise.
Scarcity is non-linear process. As something becomes more scarce or less scarce, the desire for it does not change in a proportionate way.
If everything is scarce, then scarcity itself lacks its value and people become too used to it. Studies of retail sales have shown that if more than about 30% of goods have 'sale' sticker on them, the effectiveness of this method decreases.
Retail sales
'Whilst stocks last', 'This week only', 'Last one!'. Scarcity is a principle known by all retailers who milk it right down to the last drop. If something is rare, it seems we find it somehow more desirable.
A shortage of anything sends people scurrying to the shops to stock up (often fueling the shortage and keeping the spiral going).
Banned substances
Scarcity is the lack of something. When we realize that we do not have something, we desire it. Banning it only makes things worse.
Just telling someone that they should not do something makes it more desirable. When 'Lady Chatterley's Lover' was first published it got banned. Many black-market copies were sold and it made the author, D. H. Lawrence, famous.
People flock to see a heavily censored film. Music which is banned on radio stations shoots up the charts.
Competitive pressures
Competition uses the scarcity principle, as only one person or team can win. This also highlights the social nature of scarcity: we judge ourselves against others. When they have things we do not, we become jealous.
Parent-child games
Parents often try to control children in their rationing of attention and affection. Children soon pick up on this and play the game in reverse.
The natural rebelliousness of teenagers comes out in scarcity games as parents restricting what their children actually cause them to rebel. 'Don't you dare take those drugs' may actually be the wrong thing to say, particularly if the child has a contrarian preference.
This game continues in other forms as we grow to adulthood, and telling people not do to things perpetuates the 'banned substances' game.
So what?
You can ration pretty much anything, including goods, time, attention, friendliness, agreement and so on.Create envy, showing how people have what you are selling. Indicate how the supply is running short as everyone else getting one.


Robert Gates: Realist or Neo-Con?
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/ ...04_archive.html

HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL DECIDES TO URGENTLY DISPATCH A HIGH-LEVEL FACT-FINDING MISSION TO BEIT HANOUN
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/ ...17_archive.html

A counterfeit civilisation for the world
http://www.bilderberg.org/usglobal.htm

US, Israel finalise Iran strike plan
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...search/label/ US

Hundreds of workers die as India's tea industry suffers crisis
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...rch/label/ India

New World Order Needs "Old Time Religion"
Stories Drive Reasoning from Sensory Perception
Common Sense is Neither "Common" nor "Sensible"
Limited Span of Attention Makes Communication Fragile
http://www.welchco.com/03/00050/.../02/03/ 0309.HTM


Here SANE -- try this on and see if it fits? You're sounding a b it stressed --

“Too much of anything is bad, but too much of good whiskey is barely enough.”
-- Mark Twain quotes


NWO 1987-1992
http://cnparm.home.texas.net/911...ckg/ Backg2b.htm

Top Pentagon officials were warned and cancelled flights on September 10th
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...wledge.html#eve

German firm probes final World Trade Center deals
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...ge.html#trading

Found: The 911 "Stand Down Order"?
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...tml#unprotected

Guilty For 9/11: Bush, Rumsfeld, Myers
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...tml#unprotected

On the site click the links they are good ones.


http://www.scribd.com/doc/15019/...-Chris- Anderson
The Economics of Abundance, Wired Chris Anderson
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I don't agree with all of these comparisons but it does help to get into a paradigm shift.


George Bush Sr. announces the need for "a new world order" on September eleventh 1991. Exactly 10 years to the day of 9/11.
http://daggerdannconspiracy.tripod.com/


WANT A COPY OF THE CONGRESSIONAL REPORT ON 9/11?
WANT TO SEE THE LIES AND BLOCKED OUT PAGES FOR YOUR SELF,
http://daggerdannconspiracy.trip...od.com/ id7.html

TSA wants RFID in boarding passes
http://www.libertythink.com/ 2004...8_archives.html

All subsidies in alphabetical order
http://www.nwo.nl/ subsidiewijzer...SPPD_5RJJYX_Eng

Mass spectrometry of biomacromolecules
http://www.science.uva.nl/sils/ o...750895EC382D842

Ghosts of the Twin Towers
http://dorseyland.blogsome.com/2...he-twin-towers/


SANE -- I think you've seriously gone over the clift on this one. If you can't get the concept of too much air and the balloon pops // you're truly a lost cause. What else can I say about that...

And you're trying to reduce TRUTH to degrees // I say it either is or it isn't. Period. Shades of gray really don't apply.


Max Brooks - World War Z
http://www.scribd.com/doc/4908/M...oks-World-War- Z


Too much war? You're probably right about that.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 2:51 pm | #
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I simply cannot agree, this is a conversation to reduce issues into a scarcity vs abundance argument.

Every example you gave of how too much is bad makes no fricking sense yet they are concepts that we have been conditioned to believe. Too much air so the baloon pops?? WTF??? how does that justify too much truth blogging is a bd thing and must somehow be controlled. That is like saying all terrists are muslim and all bankers are jews. These are concepts we are conditioned to believe, yet when logically analyzed make no sense. Too much kindness is bad??? You are referring to neediness and false kindness again something we are doublethought into believing is real kindness but it is not.

And you pass over too much truth as a sungular/plural absoluta as if that absolves the importance of it being a representation of how too much is not necessarily bad.

I am not sensitive or personal about this, I am just logical about it. The scarcity conversation has been used to kill millions if not billions and now is being used to enslave us all due to global warming scarcities. It is a false deceptive enslaving idea that I will not overlook or underestimate as an evil doctrine.


So In the Governemnt view "Throw Money at it and it will go away" except it won't go away because it is a NATURAL PHENOMENON that occurs every so often anyway. The melting of polar ice releases oxyegen into the atmosphere that regenerates the ozone layer. Even their own scientists have said that there is more oxyegen being released than the atmoshere can handle, but what they don't say is that the hole in the ozone is getting smaller because of it.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 3:03 pm | #

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In other words according to the Government and their oh so intelligent scientists taxation is the solution to any problem we may face.


OK, let me see if I have this straight. The US Government and Many others say that there is a "Global Warming" Crisis. They say that Automobiles that use Fossil fuels are the biggest culprit that add to the crisis. So they now will ban fossil fuels? No, they actually promote heavier use of them, but raise the prices to ungodly levels. Do they propose sanctions on the Auto manufacturers to produce more or all non fossil fuel vehicles? No, they propose to make and enforce taxes on the drivers of the cars. Do they propose stricter clean air legislation on Big Businesses? No, again they propose further taxation on the private citizens to "clean up" the air. Do they propose these taxes with a plan of study on how to clean up said air? NO, they just propose mass tax with no explanation except to tell us it is a "crisis".

So In the Governemnt view "Throw Money at it and it will go away" except it won't go away because it is a NATURAL PHENOMENON that occurs every so often anyway. The melting of polar ice releases oxyegen into the atmosphere that regenerates the ozone layer. Even their own scientists have said that there is more oxyegen being released than the atmoshere can handle, but what they don't say is that the hole in the ozone is getting smaller because of it.


*** (H)e told the Washington Post that he had sought his deferments because "I had other priorities in the 60's than military service."

That's what our Vice President had to say about his FIVE (5) DEFERMENTS FROM MILITARY SERVICE -- Oh yes, he was instrumental in sending us to war (2003) and helping keep us there -- but he himself never was a soldier. Did you already know that?

Five deferments --
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...gi? ArtNum=48151


http://www.jackherer.com/index.html It is true that the Globalists made this illegal so they could make money. Learn the History of this plant.It's not the Evil Weed THEY have brainwashed us to believe. Look at the chart that shows deaths caused by it,compare to "legal, government controlled substances".


I have not forgotten you people, I am just getting ready to go to a going away party. It is for all of you. Your places in the concentration camps are complete and waiting for you.

I guess you could call this a pre-celebration.

later, retards
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 2:41 pm | #

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What he meant to say ia that he is late for his Hitler....oops....I mean Bush youth Rally.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 2:50 pm |

Now that's funny stuff. Thanks TOTL


HATRED-OF-CAPITALISM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21500/ ...REDOFCAPITALISM


Sane you're trying to read too much into that (which is itself too much, once again). Use your common sense and try not to argue against things you surely must also understand.

Too much truth? (you ask) TRUTH is TRUTH // NO plural, NO singular applies // it either IS or IT ISN'T.

Yes, even too much love -- it 'might' be diffiult to handle too much love if it is ever lost. A phllosphical concept for you to consider. Look what Romeo did, look what Juliet did. Stupid example? Maybe. Death from a broken heart for the loss of a loved one. Not many can say the same for the SOB that gets by the runaway truck.

Too much air -- the baloon 'POPS' --

Too much salt, too much sugar, too much food (in general) // not good.l

To go back to one of your quips // Too much kindness? You might never get rid of the person when they eventuially come to grate upon one's nerves. Again, not good.

You get the idea, surely. And stop calling you Shirley, right. Too many attempts at joke making -

Too much war? You're probably right about that.


I have not forgotten you people, I am just getting ready to go to a going away party. It is for all of you. Your places in the concentration camps are complete and waiting for you.

I guess you could call this a pre-celebration.

later, retards
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 2:41 pm | #

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What he meant to say ia that he is late for his Hitler....oops....I mean Bush youth Rally.


THE IRON HEEL  by Jack London 

"At first, this Earth, a stage so gloomed with woe   You almost sicken at the shifting of the scenes.  And yet be patient.  Our Playwright may show  In some fifth act what this Wild Drama means."  CONTENTS  FORWARD  I.     MY EAGLE  II.    CHALLENGES  III.   JOHNSON'S ARM  IV.    SLAVES OF THE MACHINE  V.     THE PHILOMATHS  VI.    ADUMBRATIONS  VII.   THE BISHOP'S VISION  VIII.  THE MACHINE BREAKERS  IX.    THE MATHEMATICS OF A DREAM  X.     THE VORTEX  XI.    THE GREAT ADVENTURE  XII.   THE BISHOP  XIII.  THE GENERAL STRIKE  XIV.   THE BEGINNING OF THE END

XV.    LAST DAYS  XVI.   THE END  XVII.  THE SCARLET LIVERY  XVIII. IN THE SHADOW OF SONOMA  XIX.   TRANSFORMATION  XX.    THE LAST OLIGARCH  XXI.   THE ROARING ABYSMAL BEAST  XXII.  THE CHICAGO COMMUNE  XXIII. THE PEOPLE OF THE ABYSS  XXIV.  NIGHTMARE  XXV.   THE TERRORISTS 

THE IRON HEEL 

FOREWORD 

It cannot be said that the Everhard Manuscript is  an important  historical document. To the historian it bristles  with errors­­not  errors of fact, but errors of interpretation. Look ing back across the  seven centuries that have lapsed since Avis Everha rd completed her  manuscript, events, and the bearings of events, th at were confused and  veiled to her, are clear to us. She lacked perspec tive. She was too  close to the events she writes about. Nay, she was  merged in the events  she has described.  Nevertheless, as a personal document, the Everhard  Manuscript is of  inestimable value. But here again enter error of p erspective, and  vitiation due to the bias of love. Yet we smile, i ndeed, and forgive  Avis Everhard for the heroic lines upon which she  modelled her husband.  We know to­day that he was not so colossal, and th at he loomed among the  events of his times less largely than the Manuscri pt would lead us to  believe.  We know that Ernest Everhard was an exceptionally  strong man, but not so  exceptional as his wife thought him to be. He was,  after all, but one of  a large number of heroes who, throughout the world , devoted their lives  to the Revolution; though it must be conceded that  he did unusual  work, especially in his elaboration and interpreta tion of working­class  philosophy. "Proletarian science" and " proletarian philosophy" were his  phrases for it, and therein he shows the provincia lism of his mind­­a  defect, however, that was due to the times and tha t none in that day  could escape.  But to return to the Manuscript. Especially valuab le is it in  communicating to us the FEEL of those terrible tim es. Nowhere do we find  more vividly portrayed the psychology of the perso ns that lived in  that turbulent period embraced between the years 1 912 and 1932­­their  mistakes and ignorance, their doubts and fears and  misapprehensions,  their ethical delusions, their violent passions, t heir inconceivable  sordidness and selfishness. These are the things t hat are so hard for

us of this enlightened age to understand. History  tells us that these  things were, and biology and psychology tell us wh y they were; but  history and biology and psychology do not make the se things alive. We  accept them as facts, but we are left without symp athetic comprehension  of them.  This sympathy comes to us, however, as we peruse t he Everhard  Manuscript. We enter into the minds of the actors  in that long­ago  world­drama, and for the time being their mental p rocesses are our  mental processes. Not alone do we understand Avis  Everhard's love for  her hero­husband, but we feel, as he felt, in thos e first days, the  vague and terrible loom of the Oligarchy. The Iron  Heel (well named) we  feel descending upon and crushing mankind.  And in passing we note that that historic phrase,  the Iron Heel,  originated in Ernest Everhard' s mind. This, we may say, is the one moot  question that this new­found document clears up. P revious to this, the  earliest­known use of the phrase occurred in the p amphlet, "Ye Slaves,"  written by George Milford and published in Decembe r, 1912. This George  Milford was an obscure agitator about whom nothing  is known, save the  one additional bit of information gained from the  Manuscript, which  mentions that he was shot in the Chicago Commune.  Evidently he had  heard Ernest Everhard make use of the phrase in so me public speech, most  probably when he was running for Congress in the f all of 1912. From the  Manuscript we learn that Everhard used the phrase  at a private dinner  in the spring of 1912. This is, without discussion , the earliest­known  occasion on which the Oligarchy was so designated.   The rise of the Oligarchy will always remain a cau se of secret wonder  to the historian and the philosopher. Other great  historical events  have their place in social evolution. They were in evitable. Their coming  could have been predicted with the same certitude  that astronomers  to­day predict the outcome of the movements of sta rs. Without these  other great historical events, social evolution co uld not have  proceeded. Primitive communism, chattel slavery, s erf slavery, and wage  slavery were necessary stepping­stones in the evol ution of society.  But it were ridiculous to assert that the Iron Hee l was a necessary  stepping­stone. Rather, to­day, is it adjudged a s tep aside, or a step  backward, to the social tyrannies that made the ea rly world a hell, but  that were as necessary as the Iron Heel was unnece ssary.  Black as Feudalism was, yet the coming of it was i nevitable. What else  than Feudalism could have followed upon the breakd own of that great  centralized governmental machine known as the Roma n Empire? Not  so, however, with the Iron Heel. In the orderly pr ocedure of social  evolution there was no place for it. It was not ne cessary, and it was  not inevitable. It must always remain the great cu riosity of history­­a  whim, a fantasy, an apparition, a thing unexpected  and undreamed; and  it should serve as a warning to those rash politic al theorists of to­day  who speak with certitude of social processes.  Capitalism was adjudged by the sociologists of the  time to be the  culmination of bourgeois rule, the ripened fruit o f the bourgeois  revolution. And we of to­day can but applaud that  judgment. Following  upon Capitalism, it was held, even by such intelle ctual and antagonistic  giants as Herbert Spencer, that Socialism would co me. Out of the decay  of self­seeking capitalism, it was held, would ari se that flower of the

ages, the Brotherhood of Man. Instead of which, ap palling alike to  us who look back and to those that lived at the ti me, capitalism,  rotten­ripe, sent forth that monstrous offshoot, t he Oligarchy.  Too late did the socialist movement of the early t wentieth century  divine the coming of the Oligarchy. Even as it was  divined, the  Oligarchy was there­­a fact established in blood,  a stupendous and awful  reality. Nor even then, as the Everhard Manuscript  well shows, was any  permanence attributed to the Iron Heel. Its overth row was a matter of  a few short years, was the judgment of the revolut ionists. It is true,  they realized that the Peasant Revolt was unplanne d, and that the First  Revolt was premature; but they little realized tha t the Second Revolt,  planned and mature, was doomed to equal futility a nd more terrible  punishment.  It is apparent that Avis Everhard completed the Ma nuscript during the  last days of preparation for the Second Revolt; he nce the fact that  there is no mention of the disastrous outcome of t he Second Revolt.  It is quite clear that she intended the Manuscript  for immediate  publication, as soon as the Iron Heel was overthro wn, so that her  husband, so recently dead, should receive full cre dit for all that he  had ventured and accomplished. Then came the frigh tful crushing of the  Second Revolt, and it is probable that in the mome nt of danger, ere she  fled or was captured by the Mercenaries, she hid t he Manuscript in the  hollow oak at Wake Robin Lodge.  Of Avis Everhard there is no further record. Undou btedly she was  executed by the Mercenaries; and, as is well known , no record of such  executions was kept by the Iron Heel. But little d id she realize, even  then, as she hid the Manuscript and prepared to fl ee, how terrible had  been the breakdown of the Second Revolt. Little di d she realize that  the tortuous and distorted evolution of the next t hree centuries would  compel a Third Revolt and a Fourth Revolt, and man y Revolts, all drowned  in seas of blood, ere the world­movement of labor  should come into its  own. And little did she dream that for seven long  centuries the tribute  of her love to Ernest Everhard would repose undist urbed in the heart of  the ancient oak of Wake Robin Lodge.  ANTHONY MEREDITH  Ardis,  November 27, 419 B.O.M. 


The Iron Heel, By Jack London
http://www.scribd.com/doc/1456/T...-By-Jack- London


I have not forgotten you people, I am just getting ready to go to a going away party. It is for all of you. Your places in the concentration camps are complete and waiting for you.

I guess you could call this a pre-celebration.

later, retards


http://www.physics911.net/stevenjones


But again, so it is not lost on deaf ears: Too much of anything isn't good for you. Sex, maybe being the exception. Probably that can even take its toll.

Continued smile (nuts ?? -- maybe you're right).
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 2:30 pm | #
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I cannot see how the expression "too much of anything is bad" was not an illuminati invention.

Too much truth???

Too much love???

Too much peace???

Too much freedom???

Too much kindness???

All that expression has done is lead us blindly into the realm of too much bad namely:

Too much secrecy

Too much deceipt

Too much war

Too much death

Too much greed

etc.

Scarcity is an illuminati concept.

Energy, water, food, air is abundant and we are made to believe it is scarce and that 99% of the population needs to be killed off in order to sustain a "good" human population.


My suggestion was to trigger in SANE him perhaps making a request to Admin and suggest they create a LIBRARY SECTION for just his kind of input. Wouldn't distract from a forum that has a title (READER'S COMMENTS) in the least him doing that. Besides that would give the forum a bit more class and a central collection point for all that effort he (and others, you're right about that) put forth. Entirely my opinion. And I know, opinions are like ass holes -- everyone has one.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:50 pm | #
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NO NO NO NO NO NO

Are you nuts????

No control

No entanglements

No censorship

The truth will magically appear

The only way illuminati has been able to hide for so long has been by convincing everyone that censorship/control is necessary

Let the cointelpro spammers spam, and let the truthers truth and then people can use their fucking heads and finally figure out how they have been screwed over somany generations.
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:55 pm |
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I might be a little nuts (aren't we all) -- But I go with the old saying that too much of anything is bad.

I also believe in PsyOps and how easy it is to hide in plain sight and confuse the issue if you can convince the other side that what you have to give is just what they have been needing all along, that they can't survive w/o it. Don't read into that, okay.

I think the Illuminati (which has been around for many years) survived because the common man couldn't relate to them (their wealth and power) // also they lost touch with the comman man at the same time (if the people are starving and in need of food -- just let them eat cake) // that kind of thing.

But again, so it is not lost on deaf ears: Too much of anything isn't good for you. Sex, maybe being the exception. Probably that can even take its toll.

Continued smile (nuts ?? -- maybe you're right).


This is fucking unbelievable shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:06 pm | #

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I knew you could appreciate those posts
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 2:09 pm | #
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I think the TI info and the banking info goes a long way to ensuring that we "Know thy enemy."

People need to understand the comlexity of duplicity and deception taking place. Zionist, nazi, royalty, communist, fascist, etc. Just fucking uniforms...it is always the same INDIVIDUALS on the top that take off the uniform so that millions of others can die with the uniform still on.

It is such a fucking 20 dimentional shell game and people are still only looking at 2 maybe 3 dimentions.

Keep it up man!!!


Education or Indoctrination?
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/ind...om/ indoctri.htm

The NEA's Anti-American Agenda Threatens Our Nation
http://www.natall.com/american-d.../ adv031393.html

THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND THE EVIL EMPIRE
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/pm/nwo.htm


'Inconvenient Truth' Producer Pens Kids' Global Warming Text
http://www.cnsnews.com/ ViewCultu...L20070130b.html

Publisher aims to teach kids right from left
http://www.latimes.com/news/ nati...2660,full.story

SCHOLASTIC INC. ANNOUNCES ONGOING COMMITMENT TO RESPONSIBLE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND TEAMS UP WITH RAINFOREST ALLIANCE TO CONTINUE IMPROVING PAPER PROCUREMENT PRACTICES
http://www.scholastic.com/ abouts...01292007_CP.htm

Scholastic's 'lil global warming book
http://conservativepublisher.blo...rming- book.html

Children's books present conservative view
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Ent...tive_view/8743/


This is fucking unbelievable shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 2:06 pm | #

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I knew you could appreciate those posts


http://100777.com/node/605

EARTH FIRST MENDOCINO JUDI BARI REDWOOD FBI FRAME COINTELPRO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...?v=0...related& search=

GANG STALKING AND ELECTRONIC HARASSMENT GLOSSARY
http://www.raven1.net/glossary.htm

nwo hackers: the covert war against antiwar.com
http://www.disinfo.com/archive/p.../pg1/ index.html
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 2:00 pm | #
__________________________________
TIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is fucking unbelievable shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


NONVIOLENT INTERPOSITION IN ARMED CONFLICTS
http://www.gmu.edu/academic/pcs/.../pcs/ labate.htm

Human Security: Annotated Bibliography
http://www.gmu.edu/academic/hsp/ ...nnotatedbib.htm

Crowd-control cookery: Microwaves among new non-lethal weapons
http://www.freerepublic.com/ foru...8e705a74bc4.htm

NWO PLAN “B” FOR PERU,
A COUP D’ETAT?
http://educate-yourself.org/rfp/ ...anb16may0.shtml

The History and Significance of the New World Order
http://www.natvan.com/free-speec...ch/ fs9612a.html

NAFTA, GATT, WTO and FTAA
http://www.jacksonprogressive.co.../ trademain.html

A Force More Powerful
Promoting ‘Democracy’ through Civil Disobedience
http://www.zmag.org/content/show...fm? ItemID=12211

U.S. makes mockery of Afghan democracy-ousted MP
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...oreign% 20policy


LMFAO,
YOU COULDN'T BITE MY WIRE!
PUSTIE!
WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU BITE JONE'S ASS!
COME-ON NOW JONES!
SINCERELY
PRINCE DAVID
EZEKIEL 34, 37


The name change worked if sane is commenting again.

LOL
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:57 pm | #
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Your undeniable talents never fail.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...757550940588599


Hoover's Long Shadow (COINTELPRO)
http://100777.com/node/605

EARTH FIRST MENDOCINO JUDI BARI REDWOOD FBI FRAME COINTELPRO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...related& search=

GANG STALKING AND ELECTRONIC HARASSMENT GLOSSARY
http://www.raven1.net/glossary.htm

nwo hackers: the covert war against antiwar.com
http://www.disinfo.com/archive/p.../pg1/ index.html


Rockefeller foundation - CONTROL of EDUCATION

CIA - Control of international terrorism

FBI - control of domestic surveillance

Internet 2 - control of electronic communications

WTF - NO Fucking controls - free flow info - 100,000 will not stop 300 million and 1 million will not stop 6 billion

The only way they can is through these fucking control methods.

Stop being so fucking lazy, use your head and figure out what is truth and what is not.

If there are controls I guarantee you will never get that chance!!!


Unless "I see" attempt so articulate a matter of truth conjecture....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:47 pm |

What I meant to say, albeit hastily, is that we should ignore (Amuzed=I see stupid people) unless his/her comments are an attempt at having a real intellectual discourse regarding any matter of truth or untruth.


Wow, even sane is commenting now, but...

Who is Amuzed?

Oh wait, that used to be me.

The name change worked if sane is commenting again.

LOL


SHACKLED BOXCARS in OR,TX,,MT,NH, NC; & intervew w/imported NATO crack troops
http://portland.indymedia.org/en...03/ 281821.shtml

Banks face investigation of collateral
http://mparent7777- 2.blogspot.co...04_archive.html

The Second Greatest Modern Day Hoax!
http://lonepatriot.com/archives/...post/ index.html

Two Prosecutors Faulted Trials for Detainees
http://www.whatreallyhappened.co...es/ 2005_07.html

Anti-War Activist places US Soldiers under (Citizens) Arrest in Co Clare.
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76801

How war losses are attributed to "stab in the back" anti-war activists
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/ ...28_archive.html

911:
Descent
Into
Tyranny
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/me...6/10/ 119636.pdf


My suggestion was to trigger in SANE him perhaps making a request to Admin and suggest they create a LIBRARY SECTION for just his kind of input. Wouldn't distract from a forum that has a title (READER'S COMMENTS) in the least him doing that. Besides that would give the forum a bit more class and a central collection point for all that effort he (and others, you're right about that) put forth. Entirely my opinion. And I know, opinions are like ass holes -- everyone has one.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:50 pm | #
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NO NO NO NO NO NO

Are you nuts????

No control

No entanglements

No censorship

The truth will magically appear

The only way illuminati has been able to hide for so long has been by convincing everyone that censorship/control is necessary

Let the cointelpro spammers spam, and let the truthers truth and then people can use their fucking heads and finally figure out how they have been screwed over somany generations.


jbrid1138

Good comments. Way to be civil. But not sure the solution if there even need be one... Sane is a machine. Tired is a machine. Biggs, etc. And there are others like them that seem to exchange info like supercomputers. Seems a bit overwhelming to the rest of us. But we can still engage.


When the jester sang for the king and queen
____________________

Amuzed - you are the jester


Unless "I see" attempt so articulate a matter of truth conjecture....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:47 pm |

LOL, anony, at least I could understand what Tired said, even if it was misspelled, but wtf does this mean?

Hehe, I think you are a bigger dumbass!

LMAO


There we were all in one place
A generation lost in space With no time left to start again
So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick
Jack Flash sat on a candle stick
'Cause fire is the devil's only friend.

As I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in hell
Could break that satan's spell

And as flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw satan laughing with delight
the day the music died.

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away

I went down to the sacred store
Where I'd heard the music years before
But the man there said the music wouldn't play

And in the streets the children screamed
The lovers cried and the poets dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The church bells all were broken

And the three men I admire most
The Father Son and Holy Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died

They were singin'

Bye, bye miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye?
Singing this will be the day that I die
this will be the day that I die
__________________________________
How is this not an anti-illuminati song????

Who else died in a sacrificial rite???


Former President Jimmy Carter accused the U.S., Israel and the European Union on Tuesday of seeking to divide the Palestinian people by reopening aid to President Mahmoud Abbas' new government in the West Bank while denying the same to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

Carter, a Nobel Peace Prize winner who was addressing a human rights conference in Ireland, also said the Bush administration's refusal to accept Hamas' 2006 election victory was "criminal."

Carter said Hamas, besides winning a fair and democratic mandate that should have entitled it to lead the Palestinian government, had proven itself to be far more organized in its political and military showdowns with Abbas' moderate Fatah movement.

Hamas fighters routed Fatah in their violent takeover of the Gaza Strip last week. The split prompted Abbas to dissolve the power-sharing government with his rivals in Hamas and set up a Fatah-led administration to govern the West Bank.

Carter said the consensus of the U.S., Israel and the EU to start funneling aid to Abbas' new government in the West Bank but continue blocking Hamas in the Gaza Strip represented an "effort to divide Palestinians into two peoples."

"All efforts of the international community should be to reconcile the two, but there's no effort from the outside to bring the two together," he said.

The U.S. and European countries cut off the Hamas-led government last year because of the Islamic militant group's refusal to renounce violence and recognize Israel. They have continued to send humanitarian aid to Gaza through the United Nations and other organizations.

In the latest crisis, the U.S., Israel and much of the West have been trying to shore up Abbas in hopes that the West Bank can be made into a democratic example that would bring along Gaza.

During his speech to Ireland's annual Forum on Human Rights, the 83-year-old former president said monitors from his Carter Center observed the 2006 election that Hamas won. He said the vote was "orderly and fair" and Hamas triumphed, in part, because it was "shrewd in selecting candidates," whereas a divided, corrupt Fatah ran multiple candidates for single seats.

Far from encouraging Hamas' move into parliamentary politics, Carter said the U.S. and Israel, with European Union acquiescence, sought to subvert the outcome by shunning Hamas and helping Abbas to keep the reins of political and military power.

"That action was criminal," he said in a news conference after his speech.

"The United States and Israel decided to punish all the people in Palestine and did everything they could to deter a compromise between Hamas and Fatah," he said.

Carter said the U.S. and others supplied the Fatah-controlled security forces in Gaza with vastly superior weaponry in hopes they would "conquer Hamas in Gaza" — but Hamas routed Fatah in the fighting last week because of its "superior skills and discipline."

here is a man ,though he was a puppet, may now open up more and show the current flock of politicians where they are treasonous


jbrid1138.


I don't see Sane as a problem here. If truth gets spammed, so be it (and he is not the only one doing it). If you want your own blog here, it is not going to happen. People don't like looking that far back on a convoluted PP page. This is just for getting links out. People can copy and paste to their own databases etc. Don't fret. You can still comment. It just might not be up for long, that's all....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 1:42 pm
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Thanks ANONYMOUS -- Whoever you are???? Nice of you to respond.

I guess my manner of speech did indicate SANE to be a problem // But at the same time I was trying to commend him for his fine efforts. I don't think of him as a problem, not really, just a distraction because of the large (multiple) postings. Kind of hard to get a word in edge-wise (understand???) and when one does provide a link (I am agreeing with you, that is a fine purpose here, no question about that) -- they have a tendency to become lost in the sandwich effect. Covered up (not a good word is it -- considering how we find Cover up to be so distasteful to start with). But again, thanks for your comment regarding my comment.

My suggestion was to trigger in SANE him perhaps making a request to Admin and suggest they create a LIBRARY SECTION for just his kind of input. Wouldn't distract from a forum that has a title (READER'S COMMENTS) in the least him doing that. Besides that would give the forum a bit more class and a central collection point for all that effort he (and others, you're right about that) put forth. Entirely my opinion. And I know, opinions are like ass holes -- everyone has one.


Correct my spelling please....


They are boring.
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:45 pm | #

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Aww what's wrong do spelling errors disturb your delicate sensibilities? Perhaps you should go to a day spa and get a facial for your amuzment.


Unless "I see" attempt so articulate a matter of truth conjecture....


SHIT HAPPENS

SPAM HAPPENS

SPAM TRUTH

JUSTICE MAY JUST HAPPEN
_____________________________

Shit what an idiotic piece of prose, sorry but I think you get the general idea.


Ignore "I see".....


In this digest:

IN> In WoD: Magi
IN> Immortal Beloved ethereal
IN> IN Successors: The New Prince of Greed.
IN> Laurence in Love
IN> Another WordBound
IN> RE: In WoD: Garou
Re: IN> RE: In WoD: Garou
IN> An Ethereal Realm
Re: IN> In WoD: Cainites
Re: IN> IN Successors: The New Prince of Greed.
IN> Angel of door to door sales
IN> Laurence supports Bush?
http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine...s/2001/ 2397.txt

Various Freedom of Information Act documents
http://www.nachos.net/forums/sho...ead.php? t=50157


I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:24 pm | #

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You obviously come from a corrupy and inbred gene pool, but please when you look at your family you shouldn't see "stupid people" you should see educationally challenged people.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:34 pm |

LOL, if you are going to call ME educationally challenged, at least spell-check your posts, dumbass.

…and like I said before, try to get more original with your insults.

They are boring.


jbrid1138.


I don't see Sane as a problem here. If truth gets spammed, so be it (and he is not the only one doing it). If you want your own blog here, it is not going to happen. People don't like looking that far back on a convoluted PP page. This is just for getting links out. People can copy and paste to their own databases etc. Don't fret. You can still comment. It just might not be up for long, that's all....


Uniform School Accounting System (USAS)
Reference Manual
http://www2.oecn.k12.oh.us/www/ s...manual_049.html

State Government Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politi...y/ StateCAFR.htm

FY04 MILITARY PROGRAMS
CUSTOMER SATISFACTION
S URVEY
http://www.hq.usace.army.mil/cem...PORT% 20FY04.pdf

Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) and Targeted Individuals (TI's)
http://mindcontrol.twoday.net/st...tories/2495104/


Amazing 9/11 WTC Ground Zero Photo Collection
http://www.scribd.com/doc/10160/...hoto- Collection


Tired, take a look at some other stuff i posted last night, kick back aany corroborative info please.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=49675#97456
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=49675#97453
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=49675#97451
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:23 pm | #

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I have aot to coroborate, however it is all archived into a data base that i do not have with me right now. But I will post it all later tonight though


To SANE -- Noted.

I was afraid I might have offended you, and that's surely not how I view my purpose here. And I don't want to belabor this point but your fine efforts are a bit OVERKILL. Much important data (links, videos, whateve) are probably lost because of that overkill. Too much at one time.

Here's something to consider: I was a member of the Loose Change Forum months ago and we encountered some among us doing basically the same as you // sincerely, professional in their wishes to share discoveries. The same problem resulted and others started complaining that those folks were trying to monopolize the forum // a touchy subject, I realize. What was decided was a LIBRARY SECTION was created by the Moderators (Admin) for just this sort of thing, i.e., submitted links for safe-keeping (orhganized under various subject headings -- grouped together in other words, mass data strings) and preserved for interested parties to scan and check out in their leisure. Seemed to work. Of course the forum was disbanded because Dylan Avery got a bug up his ass but that's entirely another story.


Christine Payne Towler - The Continental Tarots
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5413/C...tinental- Tarots


I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:24 pm | #

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You obviously come from a corrupy and inbred gene pool, but please when you look at your family you shouldn't see "stupid people" you should see educationally challenged people.


jbird? I hear ya it does get to be alot at once but damn you have to commend that person he's on the ball in case others aren't and can't find something! Hey SANE can you find me video or stills of building 6 and 7 that Enzo spoke of? If so I can pay you with my knidness of free dvds I've collected and copied.


LMAO
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:24 pm
_________________
If you will only look a little closer, I think you'll find that's a MIRROR you're looking into. Just couldn't pass up saying that. Smile.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:27 pm | #
________________________
He opened the door, how could you resist?


OH my gosh! Am I winning with jbrid now too?

LOL, it's working.


But me, I'm just here trying to share and learn from others.

You? I think you may have missed your calling as a librarian.
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 1:19 pm | #
_______________________

Oh how my professors would disagree.

But c'mon man, I change it up all the time with 2 minute videos, hip hop, rock, small posts. But when I find something that deserves attention that I have never seen before...I tend to want to make sure it is fully preserved. There are a few of these type articles that have been redacted, but saved on these threads. I will take the criticism and try not to "over do" it. But sometimes there is a method to my madness. Of course I must also admit often there is not


LMAO
I See Stupid People | 06.20.07 - 1:24 pm
_________________
If you will only look a little closer, I think you'll find that's a MIRROR you're looking into. Just couldn't pass up saying that. Smile.


NATIONAL DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES PREPAREDNESS
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...mergency_11.txt

National ID Card A Ticket "To Tyranny", Critics Warn
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...l_id_card_6.txt

WARNING NOTICE - INTELLIGENCE SOURCES OR METHODS INVOLVED
(WNINTEL)
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...eon_azimuth.txt

INTELLIGENCE SOURCES OR METHODS INVOLVED
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...n_azimuth_1.txt

U.S. government documents
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...n_azimuth_2.txt

Amendment the First
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...of_rights_2.txt

Why We Must Defeat Ollie North
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...onstitution.txt

All North's pilots ran drugs, says
former DEA agent
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...and_drugs_2.txt

The Occult Technology of Power
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...ch_of_power.txt


Northwoods Operation -- Here take a look-see at the original 1962 document:

http://911exposed.org/Northwoods.htm

'DOUBLE CLICK' ON THE PAGE TO ENLARGE ...


Let's see... Who do I see right now?

sane

jbrid

tired

and...

anony, my new bestus friend

LMAO


Tired, take a look at some other stuff i posted last night, kick back aany corroborative info please.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=49675#97456
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=49675#97453
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=49675#97451


Try to keep up with the truth outcasts here Amuzed.....


Operations Northwoods for the uninitiated....

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662

NOT AMUZED.


SANE my forum friend. With all those postings you make (lengthy as they are, generally) back to back one after the other // Do you ever get the idea that you're talking to yourself?????
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 11:56 am | #
___________________

Holy crap, I thought I was just saving important pieces of historical text to my own private space as they are being scrubbed from the earth's repositories.

You mean other people can see and save this info locally too???

What a shame!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 12:16 pm
____________
Humor, right??? Okay --

I get what your saying. In fact, I can relate entirely // Here's why --

I haven't tried to count the number of YouTube videos that have mysteriously been DELETED from my favorites folder // somewhere in the area of 45-50 is a pretty good guess. All important stuff, I slowly collected over the months. Now add to that Google (I know they bought YouTube months ago) and other links such as old news articles -- ALL GONE -- Gone from the web address I initially discovered them, but some have resurfaced at other addresses most likely thanks to people such as you and your otherwise fine efforts. So I will thank you for that effort. So, see, I do understand.

But damn, man, you bombard the forum with sooooo damn much it is nearly impossible (and for me it IS impossible) to try and determine WHAT I find of interest and want to keep if I do find such links.

It becomes the way too thick textbook that the student is so very reluctant to open for no other reason than it's too damn thick -- that's why the student oftentimes goes in search of the CRIB NOTES (summarized version).

Understand?

I mean your post (and you know this w/o my comments) are one after the other -- bam, bam, bam, bam. AND it becomes way too much.

Little bits and pieces makes for easy reading and for better forum traffic. Or so I think.

But me, I'm just here trying to share and learn from others.

You? I think you may have missed your calling as a librarian.


Tired, take a look into new procurement requests

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...nts...mments30/ #97401
sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 1:17 pm | #


Interesting to say the least.


Tired, take a look into new procurement requests

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...mments30/ #97401


WHAT IS FINCEN?
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...forcement_1.txt

Big Brother Wants to Look Into Your Bank Account (Any Time It Pleases)
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...forcement_2.txt

Army exploratory development programs
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...ed_programs.txt
NEAL KNOX REPORT JPFO PROVES ME WRONG By Neal Knox
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...and_nazis_1.txt

National Socialist/Socialist::
==============================

Anti-Gun-Ownership Propaganda
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...and_nazis_2.txt

The Rise of the National Security State:

FEMA and the NSC
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...mergency_04.txt


Every time I get you to respond to something I say, I win. - Amuzed.

Actually, every time I get you to show your fake, presumptious, psuedo-enlightened, pompous self, I win!

You just further instill the desire to post truth rather than mere insult like yourself.


Homeland antiterrorism

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6094/H...d- antiterrorism

Unrestricted Warfare-Leaked Chinese Plan to take over US
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5714/U...tricted- Warfare

Farrell, Joseph - Reich of the Black Sun
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6704/F...f-the-Black- Sun


State Department Publication 7277 (1961)

http://www.mikenew.com/pub7277.html

Ask yourself why this was ever published by our very own State Department if it is not infact the agenda of this government to eventually submit to the United Nations.

Our military will be scaled down through the escalation of war in the Middle East. A number of bases have already been closed and converted. The remaining forces in America will be used for peace-keeping....

NOT AMUZED.


Spoken like a man that took his mother to prom with him
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 1:08 pm |

LOL, Tired. Do you and Gabe live with each other? He tried the same kind of lame, bullshit insults with me yesterday.

C'mon, you can do better that that. Oh wait! Maybe you can’t.

LOL

You are just another paranoid retard like the rest here.


T H E E X O N
[T h e E x e m p t E l e c t]
http://www.hackcanada.com/blackc...atriot/ exon.txt

From the Illumi-Net BBS Decatur, GA
Conspiracy Theory Conference 404-377-1141

Summary of FBI Computer Systems
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...i_computers.txt

EXCERPTS FROM INTERVIEW WITH FRANK VARELLI
FORMER FBI INFORMER, AND INFILTRATOR OF CISPES.
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...bi_informer.txt

OWNERSHIP OF FEDERAL RESERVE
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...e_ownership.txt


Anony, please. I am not pretending to be a reactionary. Every time I get you to respond to something I say, I win. Why? Because then you are not posting your stupid bullshit. Did I really pick the wrong prey? I think not, you are still responding.

LOL, what a dumbass.

You are just as fucking stupid as Gabe.


Thanks for the suggestion. I think I will change my name to one I have used before. Should I change it to "I see stupid people"?

I think so. Why? Because you paranoid dumbasses deserve it.

Let me make a guess. All of you are kind of outcasts, right? The only folks you really get along with are those that share in you delusions. Some of you are even alienated from your families. Gabe even admitted this, or maybe it was sane.

You have become more and more anti-social because you are putting all of your efforts into this lunacy; and before you tell me I spend a lot of time here myself, I don’t spend anywhere near the time here that most of you moonbats do.

Wake up! Join the real world again. With every post you get further and further away from reality.

Join the human race again.

But, if you are unwilling to do this, maybe Gabe and his alien friends will fill the void.

LMFAO

What a bunch of retards!
Amuzed | 06.20.07 - 1:05 pm | #

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Spoken like a man that took his mother to prom with him


In case there is anyone out there doing research on military spending, here's
a list of suffixes used in budget documents to identify the Department of
Defense component responsible for the program. Generally, all the DOD
components are listed together in the same part of the RDT&E budget in
Congressional budget documents, without naming the specific agency.
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...od_suffixes.txt

The following article is from a leaflet that has been distributed by the
Libertarian Party in New Jersey. Written by an attorney, it deals with
the subject of talking to police or other government agents.
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...alk_to_cops.txt

I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast
by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th
Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...ind_control.txt

The following file of excepts of testimony by Daniel Ellsberg to the US
Senate in 1973 gives an insider's perspective on government secrecy. I
hope that readers find this of interest.
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc..._on_secrecy.txt


The Illuminati And The Council On Foreign Relations by Myron Fagan
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63622/...-by-Myron- Fagan


Thanks for the suggestion. I think I will change my name to one I have used before. Should I change it to "I see stupid people"?

I think so. Why? Because you paranoid dumbasses deserve it.

Let me make a guess. All of you are kind of outcasts, right? The only folks you really get along with are those that share in you delusions. Some of you are even alienated from your families. Gabe even admitted this, or maybe it was sane.

You have become more and more anti-social because you are putting all of your efforts into this lunacy; and before you tell me I spend a lot of time here myself, I don’t spend anywhere near the time here that most of you moonbats do.

Wake up! Join the real world again. With every post you get further and further away from reality.

Join the human race again.

But, if you are unwilling to do this, maybe Gabe and his alien friends will fill the void.

LMFAO

What a bunch of retards!


PUSTIES
HOW ABOUT PRISON PLANET/INFO WARS SHRINING AS A TOPIC TO SHARE WITH YOUR AUDIENCE? WHAT ABOUT THE MESSIAH, THE MAITREYA, THE IMAN MAHDI ALL NAMES AND PROPHECIES FOR ME NOT JESUS! NO MATTER HOW THAT HURTS WEAK, DELUSIONAL WATSON, SMITH, HANSON AND EVEN YOU GOD DAM EMERICK!
SINCERELY
DAVID


Decrypting the Puzzle Palace
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...rlow_on_nsa.txt

HEY, AMERICANS!

ARE YOU READY FOR SLAVE LABOR CAMPS?

An analysis of House Bill HR 4079
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...ion_camps_1.txt

SECRET CONCENTRATION CAMPS
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...ion_camps_2.txt

PROOFS OF A CONSPIRACY
http://www.hackcanada.com/ blackc...iracy_proof.txt


Besides. I won't be a good little mouse and play along. You picked the wrong prey.


Anony, you are my new friend. I could really give a shit about you, what anyone posts here, or what your opinions are. I only post to get a reaction from you retards. Last nite it was Gabe. I guess today it will be you.

LOL
Amuzed

Nice try "Amuzed". But your games are transparent. On the one hand you pretend to get a rise out of PP commenters. But you also attempt to engage in actual discourse from time to time. This seems to indicate some familiarity with the subject at hand. But you are too much a coward to go beyond your own drivel. That is why you play the "mock" card, and pretend to be reactionary.


GLOBAL ELITE BRAINWASHING CHILDREN
http://www.fdrs.org/ brainwashing...g_children.html

BRAINWASHING THE CHILDREN: A GLOBAL EFFORT
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wal...lker/ jill24.htm

THE ONE WORLD ORDER: PROGRAMMING THE MASSES
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spi...la/ deanna45.htm

THE NEW WORLD ORDER

WHAT IS IT?

BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!! IT'S ALREADY HERE!!!
http://www.greatdreams.com/nwo.htm

Brainwashing in America
WHY FEW DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
Redefining "Literacy" for a New World Order

Patriots against the New World Order Totalitarianism
Lots of links here
http://www.hackcanada.com/blackc...wl/ patriot.html


right Tired. Keep up the good work. Carpet bomb truth until it runneth over!


Anony, you are my new friend. I could really give a shit about you, what anyone posts here, or what your opinions are. I only post to get a reaction from you retards. Last nite it was Gabe. I guess today it will be you.

LOL


Weishaupt scheduled the French Revolution to start in 1789. However, in 1784, a true act of God placed the Bavarian Government in possession of evidence which proved the existence of the Illuminati. And that evidence could have saved France if they, the French Government, had not refused to believe it.
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde...yde/ illumin.htm
Tired Of The Lies | 06.20.07 - 12:47 pm | #

KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Otherwise, you are just a cog in the wheel of progress....
Anonymous | 06.20.07 - 12:48 pm | #

Amuzed does not have the truth in him...His head is buried too far up Bush's ASS, but I guess from that vantage point he has a good view of Colin [powell] and Dick [Cheney] though.


Hey Amuzed. Try changing your name and coming back as a real truther. We will be glad to welcome you!

Otherwise, you are just a cog in the wheel of progress....


Essays by Luiz Bresser-Pereira, Richard Bulliet, Bruce Cumings, Dick Howard, Neil Smith, Steve Smith, William Wallace, and William Zartman
http://www.ssrc.org/sept11/ essay...world_order.htm

The main features of the Weishaupt plan of operation required his Illuminati to do the following things to help them to accomplish their purpose:

1. Monetary and sex bribery was to be used to obtain control of men already in high places in the various levels of all governments and other fields of endeavor. Once influential persons had fallen for the lies, deceits, and temptations of the Illuminati, they were to be held in bondage by application of political and other forms of blackmail, threats of financial ruin, public exposure, and physical harm, even death to themselves and loved members of their families.

2. The Illuminati who were on the faculty of colleges and universities were to cultivate students possessing exceptional mental ability and who belonged to well-bred families with international leanings, and recommend them for special training in Internationalism. Such training was to be provided by granting scholarships, like the Rhodes Scholarship, to those selected by the Illuminati. All such scholars were to be first persuaded and then convinced that men of special talent and brains had the right to rule those less gifted on the grounds that the masses do not know what is best for them physically, mentally, and spiritually.

3. All influential people who were trapped to come under the control of the Illuminati, plus the students who had been specially educated and trained, were to be used as agents and placed behind the scenes of all governments as experts and specialists. They would advise the top executives to adopt policies which would, in the long run, serve the secret plans of the Illuminati's one world conspiracy, and bring about the destruction of the governments and religions they were elected or appointed to serve.

4. They were to obtain absolute control of the press so that all news and inforation could be slanted to convince the masses that a one world government is the only solution to our many and varied problems. They were also to own and control all the national radio and TV channels.

After reading these four points of strategy, we have to admit that our mass communications media is controlled at all levels, and that at all levels our governments are also infiltrated and controlled, just like Weishaupt had planned back in the 1700's. Unfortunately, few people are aware of this fact, which is why they make little sense out of many of the world events that take place today.

Let us now go back to the first days of the Illuminati.

Because Britain and France were the two greatest world powers in the late years of the 18th Century, Weishaupt ordered the Illuminati to foment the colonial wars, including the Revolutionary War in America, to weaken the British Empire. They were also ordered to organize the French Revolution in order to destroy the French Empire.

Weishaupt scheduled the French Revolution to start in 1789. However, in 1784, a true act of God placed the Bavarian Government in possession of evidence which proved the existence of the Illuminati. And that evidence could have saved France if they, the French Government, had not refused to believe it.
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde...yde/ illumin.htm


If you are not lending a hand in this fight, you are part of the problem. Or you are just furniture to be sat on by the fat NWO swine.

You have expressed enough initiative to look into the disinfo. Now, try connecting the "real" dots....


Now keep chuckling....While people are being set-up to die at the expense of your aid.

NOT AMUZED.


Please Amuzed.

The problem with you is that your "troofiness" and "moonbat" like qualities include parroting the disinfo.

You fail to account for all the peripheral information that can be cross-referenced and studied along with (motive), including who stands the most to gain, and who has a criminal track record of lying to the American public over and over with documents like Northwoods Operation (that should alarm even you) and pretending not to support the United Nations with public record documents like State Department Publication 7277, that calls for eventual world government.

This is the real modus operandi. It is all about the globalist use of the Hegelian Dialectic. And you are the sorry sap falling for it!


PhD Electrical Engineering, Purdue University, December 1987
MS Physics, Purdue University, December 1986
BS Physics, University of Liege, Belgium, July 1981
http://www.ececs.uc.edu/~mcahay/...y/ cahayres2.pdf

Process Technology
http://www.innovations-report.co...?show=10& page=8

Information Technology
http://www.innovations-report.co...?show=7& page=40

Third Annual JIBS/AIB/CIBER Conference on Emerging Research Frontiers in International Business
http://ciberweb.msu.edu/ activity...ionRecordID=346

REAL Staff
REAL staff members are drawn primarily from its founding institutions, the University of Illinois and the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
http://www.real.uiuc.edu/staff/staff.htm

Lets see Amuzed, Purdue did a "study", and such stidies are funded by the GOVERNMENT, On the WTC and 911, Now in a GOVERNMENT funded study why would they find anything that does not go along with the official story? However to your comment that we back nothing up with science why don't you look at INDEPENDENT research, check out the findings of DR. Steven Jones, or I don't know use your OWN brain, assuming that you have one. But then again you only believe what your overinfalted ego, and non existent superiority tells you. But the truth is you are simply a legend in your own mind. How sad is it that you have so great a life that your "amuzment" has to come from mocking people on blogs. How sad a life do you have? But there is good news for you, the FEMA camps are ready and so your sad life is about to get sadder. But I guess you won't be so "amuzed" then will you?
See, most of us come here for info, most of us are willing to fight for the liberty of this country, the liberty you mock here and take for granted. hat is the only sad part I see about fighting for liberty, because people like you will reap the benefits of it. People like you who mock it, and are blind to the enemies of it. people like you who believe in nothing except the Intelligence that you believe you possess that trully does not exist because your truth and your opinions are only what the GOVERNMENT tells you they are.
So, go peddal your snake oil somewhere else charlotan, this site is for the truth and freedom and liberty, not for those Like you who will willingly submit to their NWO masters and take it up the ass and say "thank you sir may i have another"


AMUZED, as usual you are too little too late:

>>>TOTAL BS ALERT!!!!!!
Simulation finds 9/11 fireproofing key

sane | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 8:50 am | #
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.../? a=20770#97646


Metaphysics of Immunity:
SARS and Chemtrails
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ m...ty07may03.shtml

Chemtrails: Suppression of Human Evolution
http://educate-yourself.org/mnt/ ...on29sep00.shtml

DEATH BY PLAGUE: REINTRODUCING THE INFAMOUS "BLACK PLAGUE" UPON THE WORLD THROUGH AVIAN BIRD FLU -- THE DEADLY DISEASE RENAMED!
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/.../news/ n2088.cfm

Russian Economist Tatyana Koryagina Uncovers New Players
in the New World Order Drama
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ..._koryagnia.html

OUR MASONIC GOVERNMENT AND THEIR HIDDEN AGENDA
TOWARD TOTAL SOCIAL CONTROL
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com....uk/ part_6.html

CONTEST FOR RUSSIAN-DUTCH (RFBR-NWO) PROJECTS 2005
http://www.rfbr.ru/eng/default.a...asp? doc_id=6136

Project: Genen en routes die kritisch zijn bij de ontwikkeling van atherosclerose
http://www.onderzoekinformatie.n...oek/OND1308429/

NWO | Huygens Lecture 2003
http://www.ruf.rice.edu/ ~mikosgr...gensLecture.pdf

Genetically Engineered Foods
http://www.realtruth.org/article...223- gefwtc.html

Bovine Growth Hormone, Genetic Engineering & the New World Order
http://www.mindfully.org/GE/GE3/...BGH-Got- Pus.htm


Here is another one for you nutballs. Of course, you wont believe it. You dont use science to back up your troofiness, just bullshit.

Wednesday, June 20, 2007
By STEVE HERMAN, Associated Press Writer
INDIANAPOLIS — A computer simulation of the 2001 World Trade Center attacks supports a federal agency's findings that the initial impact from the hijacked airplanes stripped away crucial fireproofing material and that the weakened towers collapsed under their own weight.
The two-year Purdue University study, funded in part by the National Science Foundation, was the first to use 3-D animation to provide visual context to the attacks, said Christoph Hoffmann, a professor of computer science and one of the lead researchers on the project.
"One thing it does point out... is the absolute essential nature of fireproofing steel structures," Hoffmann told The Associated Press. "This is something that wasn't done originally in the World Trade Center when it was built. It wasn't code at that time."
Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering and a lead investigator on the simulation, said Purdue researchers hope their work leads to better structural design and building codes to prevent similar collapses.
"In the unfortunate development that we shall have to design structures to survive such events, the methods we have developed and will be developing will be of great use to designers," Sozen said.
The animation, intended in part to help engineers design safer buildings, begins with a map of lower Manhattan as it appeared on Sept. 11, 2001. The video then shows a plane slicing through several stories of the World Trade Center's north tower and follows the disintegrating plane through the interior and out the opposite side.
The report concludes that the weight of the aircraft's fuel, when ignited, produced "a flash flood of flaming liquid" that knocked out a number of structural columns within the building and removed the fireproofing insulation from other support structures, Hoffmann said.
The simulation also found that the airplane's metal skin peeled away shortly after impact and shows how the titanium jet engine shafts flew through the building like bullets.
Ayhan Irfanoglu, a Purdue professor of civil engineering, said half of the building's weight-bearing columns were concentrated at the cores of the towers.
"When that part is wiped out, the structure comes down," Irfanoglu said. "We design structures with some extra capacity to cover some uncertainties, but we never anticipate such heavy demand coming from an aircraft impact. If the columns were distributed, maybe, the fire could not take them out so easily."
A 2005 report following a three-year investigation by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, a federal engineering agency, recommended that cities raise fire standards for skyscrapers and develop new materials that can better protect tall buildings from fire. That analysis did not blame the collapse on the steel or design of the towers, but instead focused on the damage to the fireproofing.
Shyam Sunder, the lead NIST investigator, said he was aware of the Purdue study and called it and his own agency's study "among probably the most prominent analyses that have been conducted in the United States."
The animation is the latest project by the Purdue team to assess the structural damage from the Sept. 11 attacks. The team also studied the impact of the crash into the Pentagon.
See the Purdue study:
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/news/6-.../6-15- 07WTC.htm


SANE my forum friend. With all those postings you make (lengthy as they are, generally) back to back one after the other // Do you ever get the idea that you're talking to yourself?????
jbrid1138 | 06.20.07 - 11:56 am | #
___________________

Holy crap, I thought I was just saving important pieces of historical text to my own private space as they are being scrubbed from the earth's repositories.

You mean other people can see and save this info locally too???

What a shame!!!


Republicans Refuse To Ban Human Cloning
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...an- cloning.html

So now Hienous crimes against humanity isn't enough, they want to commit crimes against nature too.

Atlantean Mad Scientists Clone Human Embryo
by AP/AFP
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/...m? ChannelID=100

Close the Door on Cloning
http://www.nationalreview.com/ co...ith011402.shtml

CLONING: SOLUTIONS CREATE QUESTIONS
http://www.newswithviews.com/Hay...yes/ gianni2.htm

ZonMw Support for Stem Cell Research
http://www.stemcellforum.org.uk/ ...development.cfm

Cloning: Good or Evil?
http://www.americanchronicle.com...? articleID=1949

Closing in on Cloning
http://www.n2itiveweb.com/noelfo...topic=& display=

UK Stem Cell Initiative [UKSCI]
http:// www.advisorybodies.doh.go...netherlands.htm

Human Immunoglobulin A Receptor (FcRI, CD89) Function in Transgenic Mice Requires Both FcR Chain and CR3 (CD11b/CD1
http://bloodjournal.hematologyli...full/93/12/ 4387


MILITARY COMMISSIONS ACT: A PRECURSOR TO TYRANNY?
http://mrspickles.wordpress.com/...sor-to-tyranny/

The Military Commissions Act 2006
http://netctr.com/milcommact.html

Enemy Combatant Military Commissions Act of 2006
http://xiandos.info/ Enemy_Combat...ons_Act_of_2006

How the Military Commissions Obscure Gitmo's Real Purpose
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...ure- gitmos.html

Why Is Bush Waiting On Military Commissions Act?
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...bushwaiting.htm

Military Commissions Act Does Affect US Citizens
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/ ...6doesaffect.htm

Thunder on the Mountain: The Murderers of Democracy
http://www.chris-floyd.com/index...=860& Itemid=135

Habeas corpus matters according to the Military Commissions Act of 2006
http://caosblog.com/3854


When the People fear the Government you have an Oppressive Dictatorship....When the Government Fears the People you have A free Democracy!


Anyone believe Michael Moore’s latest bullshit crockumentary? NYPost’s Kyle Smith trashes the validity of Moore’s latest stupidity. Here is an excerpt:
“Regardless of whether any particular claim in “Sicko” is true, no one doubts that lots of insured and uninsured Americans face health-care crises. So far, Moore is master of the obvious. We all hate insurance companies and red tape, and we all want to improve the system. Where do we go from here?
To France, Britain and Canada, says Moore, who presents each of them as a health-care paradise. But lots of people in those countries have health-care nightmares of their own. Here’s how easy it is to lie by anecdote: Say I wanted to make a film about gay black Republicans who live in Chelsea. I find ten of them, make a film about them, and you walk out of the theater thinking: Wow, so many gay black Republicans in Chelsea! The six years it took me to find these ten guys will go unnoted.
All three countries are edging away from how Moore portrays them. Moore knows that in France, where he praises not only the health service but limits on working hours, expansive unemployment benefits and the country’s three preferred forms of exercise—street-marching, banner-hoisting and strikes—a new conservative president was just elected by promising to cut back on such nonsense. (According to Moore, if you need a babysitter or help with the laundry, the French government will send a trained professional right over.)
Everywhere he looks, Moore finds French happiness. But this phrase is as close to an oxymoron as French rock. In a poll, 85 percent of the French recently said their country is heading in the wrong direction. Right direction? Nine percent. In France in 2003, 15,000 mostly elderly hospital patients died in an August heat wave–because hospitals lack air conditioning and doctors were on vacation. The French parliament blamed the health care system. That’s five times 9/11’s toll, all of it preventable, all of it unlamented by Moore.
Moore knows that in Britain, where National Health Service spending has more than doubled since Tony Blair was elected, with little to show for it, there is a two-tier health system: the smart set carry private insurance, which Moore wants to outlaw in the U.S. The cliché in London (check out this story and this one) is that the well-shod go to the same doctor as the suckers on the National Health Service. The difference is that private clients get treated right away while the NHS losers wait two years to get their strep throat looked at.
Moore glosses over wait times, hoping his audience is too stupid to notice. He asks a handful of Canadian patients how long they had to wait to see the doctor. Oh, 20 minutes, 45 minutes, everyone says. So if Moore finds five people who didn’t have to wait, there’s no waiting for anybody!”


Soldier: US Military Needs to Secure Borders
Tracey Caldwell Shares More Ideas From Her Son in Iraq
By TRACEY CALDWELL Posted 0 hr. 29 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index..._Secure_Borders
Majid Saeedi/Getty Images

Someone wrote to tell me that my son had not given any details for his plan to secure Iraq, so I wrote and asked him for more.

My son says that his plan to get out of Iraq as soon as possible would require securing the borders to prevent the "refueling" of the insurgency, and letting the Iraqi army do the fighting in the cities and villages. Even if they were not fully prepared, they would learn. He would also build refugee camps for the smart people who don't want to be caught in the middle.

He said that while we have had some successful missions in Iraq, they have mostly been "Operation Chase Out the Bad Guys" when what we need is "Operation Control the Border." He acknowledged:

"No one joins the Army or goes to war thinking that they are going to sit in an M-1114 (a Humvee), watching the road in the middle of a 120 degree day, not a private, not a sergeant, not a lieutenant, not a commander, not a colonel, and not a general. Everyone pictures themselves jumping off a helicopter onto a battlefield and killing lots and lots of bad guys. Even cooks, finance clerks, mechanics, and communication specialists, believe they are going to do something cool, like killing bad guys. So you can't really expect them to get excited about something like border patrol. The commanders certainly aren't going to volunteer their unit to do border control."

This creates a problem for the generals. As my son explains it, even if the generals recognize the need to secure borders, they have a hard time delegating it to the hundreds of commanders at their disposal because no one wants to do border patrol. Therefore, no commander is going to come up with any good plans. The general could turn to his staff, but they are desk jockeys, and no one wants to be on a mission planed by a desk jockey. That would leave the generals to plan their own operation. Unfortunately, most generals probably haven't built their own operations since they were captains in Panama, or even Vietnam.

Building operations are not simple, especially one as complex and important as securing borders in Iraq. There are so many things to consider, like refugee camps. Where should we put them? Can we get help from other countries? How do we feed and take care of all the refugees. The bases we have built, do we give them to the Iraqi Army? Should we build new bases on the borders? How do we transition for the current operation to the new one? How would we train soldiers to pursue this sort of operation? Do we have the right equipment? Do we have enough men? If we need more men, how many? Where would we put them? Can we create secure supply routes to the border to transport the things the soldiers need? Where should we start first on the borders? What are the hot spots? How could we keep soldiers from starting fights with other countries? How long would we have to secure the borders for the insurgents in Iraq to run out of money and resources? He said, "There are lots of other things to consider that I probably can not even imagine, so the generals have a lot of work ahead of them."

So from my son's little spot on the battlefield, with his twenty-seven years of life and six years of military experience, these are his ideas for a plan that might eventually lead to getting our soldier home from Iraq.

Tracey-Kay Caldwell is the mother of a soldier, Democratic Party Editor of BellaOnline.com, and a freelance writer. She can be reached at IraqSoldierMom@gmail.com.


SANE my forum friend. With all those postings you make (lengthy as they are, generally) back to back one after the other // Do you ever get the idea that you're talking to yourself?????


Collections of the Month, February 2003: Cecil John Rhodes (1853-1902)
http://www.archiveshub.ac.uk/feb...uk/ feb03a.shtml
The Collections Selected links Southern Africa before Rhodes Cecil Rhodes Rhodes Family

Above: cartoon postcard of Rhodes and General Cronje, 1900: "Greetings from Kimberley" (GB 0162 MSS. Afr. r. 256).


Rhodes was born in 1853 at Bishops Stortford and educated at the town's grammar school till 1869, when his health broke down. Sent to Natal in southern Africa in 1870, initially to grow cotton, he later began prospecting for diamonds in Kimberley. As his claim prospered, Rhodes began amalgamating several smaller holdings in the De Beers Mine. By the 1880s he held one of the biggest claims in Kimberley and, after successfully launching a legal attack on his main rival, he founded the De Beers Consolidated Mines Co., gaining a virtual monopoly on the South African mining industry and on world production. He also founded Consolidated Gold Fields of South Africa in 1887 after the discovery of gold in the Transvaal.

An avid classicist, he returned to England in 1873 and matriculated at Oriel College, Oxford, though a chill which spread to his heart and lungs, thought at the time to be immediately life-threatening, prevented him from graduating until 1881. While at Oxford, he came into contact with the strands of political ideology which would later lead to the scramble for colonies by the European states. The effect this had on Rhodes is evident from his 1877 will, in which he disposed a future fortune to the establishment of a secret society dedicated to the extension of British rule worldwide.

During the early part of the decade, the Transvaal began to develop satellite republics in the lands of the Tswana north of the Orange River and to forge agreements with Germany (which had annexed South-West Africa in 1884). In 1880, Rhodes was elected to the Cape legislature, and cultivated the friendships of key men as his influence increased. His lobbying of the British government through the Cape legislature, together with anti-Boer propaganda in Britain itself, led to the establishment of a British colony in Tswana territory in 1885 and of the Bechuanaland Protectorate to the north.

In the 1880s there were rumours of the discovery of gold in the territories of the Ndebele and Shona peoples north of the Transvaal. In the face of competition from German and Transvaal interests, the king of the Ndebele, Lobengula was persuaded by Rhodes to grant him mining rights in Ndebele territory. This grant was used in 1889 as the basis for the foundation of the British South Africa Company, a chartered organisation with quasi-governmental powers. The territory immediately under its control was named Rhodesia. The initial actions of the Company in Ndebele territory, and the pressure on land by incoming settlers led to war with the Ndebele, 1894-1895 and 1897, though British success was assured by a mixture of technical superiority and Rhodes's own diplomacy. During the 1890s Rhodes extended the Company's control northwards to the shores of Lake Nyasa.

In 1890 Rhodes was elected Prime Minister of Cape Colony. During his premiership he began the first stretch of his planned Cape-Cairo railway line (he later constructed a telegraph line between the same points). He made efforts to develop Afrikaner farms and introduced dues favourable to Dutch farmers, while at the same time restricting non-European voting rights and effectively establishing an Africans-only residential policy in Glen Grey. His premiership ended after implication in the Jameson Raid of 1895, involving an attempt to incite unrest in the Transvaal. His standing was further diminished by his support for the South African War of 1899-1902, during which he was besieged in Kimberley. Shortly afterwards, his health deteriorated, and he died in 1902 at Muizenberg. His will bequeathed part of his fortune to the foundation of 160 scholarships at Oxford for men of the colonies, the U.S.A., and Germany.


To survive amid nihilism one must find a philosophy. Here's mine:

Once grasp the great Form without form
And you roam where you will
With no evil to fear
Calm, peaceful, at ease.

At music and viands
The wayfarer stops.
But the Way, when declared
Seems thin and so flavorless!

It is nothing to look at
And nothing to hear;
But used, it will prove
Inexhaustible.

- Tao Te Ching, poem 35, tr. R. B. Blakney as The Way of Life.

Knowledge frequently results
from knowing others,
but the man who is awakened,
has seen the uncarved block.

Others might be mastered by force,
but to master one's self
requires the Tao.

He who has many material things,
may be described as rich,
but he who knows he has enough,
and is at one with the Tao,
might have enough of material things,
and have self-being as well.

Will-power may bring perseverance;
but to have tranquility is to endure,
being protected for all his days.

He whose ideas remain in the world,
is present for all time.

- Tao Te Ching, poem 33, tr. S. Rosenthal.

Henry C K Liu on Taoism and Modernity: daoist.html.

Readers who study this site thoroughly will realise that a certain amount of contradictory material is presented. That's because the truth is not always clear; and also because it's beneficial to "read around the topic", seeing a variety of viewpoints.


Neither Aryan Nor Jew This site is for serious researchers of the "higher tribalism" (Aryanism, Zionism, Nihonism etc), Globalization and World Government. I cannot support those who deny the common humanity of the different peoples, or who oppose intermarriage between them. Freedom for the Rich is Slavery for the Poor. World Government affects everyone - everyone therefore needs to know about it.

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Themes: The standard Marxist view obscures the role of religion as a motivator, e.g. in Zionism. Equally, the Hegelian position obscures the extent to which universal religion conceals particularist self-interest: Christianity became a mask for Aryanism. As the mask is removed, "White Christians" face a painful spiritual crisis. The Problem with Whites: whites.html.

Denis Freney on the 1971 Springbok tour of Australia. This was a major setback for the apartheid regime in South Africa, and a mind-altering event in Australia: freney.html.

"The Aryans will enlarge and beautify the earth; but they will settle to enjoy the world which they created only in the tents of the Jews. These tents are communism, internationalism, the universal brotherhood of man, the emancipation of the working class and the human society - a society of free and morally autonomous rational human beings. The destiny of the Aryans is to become Jews" - Rabbi Harry Waton, A Program For The Jews, 1939, p. 102: zioncom.html.

"... the Jews sought to revise, redraw, and replace the basic tenets of the West" - Ben-Ami Shillony (a Jewish Professor), The Jews and the Japanese, p. 64: japan.html.

The One World movement has three factions, which co-operate with one another against "nationalism" or "isolationism". They are (a) the Tory (Imperial) (b) the International Socialist (Trotskyist, Fabian & Green Left, against the Stalinist Left) (c) the Zionist: british-conspiracy.html.

The first delivers the "Right", the second delivers the "Left" to One-Worldism: oneworld.html.

The Balfour Declaration of 1917 marked the joining-up of the Tory and Zionist factions in an uneasy alliance. Before that, they were working against each other (Britain was pro-Czar, the Zionists were anti-Czar).

The International Socialist faction is also what H. G. Wells called "the Open Conspiracy": opensoc.html. It promotes Political Correctness, the World Court, and the Kyoto Protocol. It tried to get a world government established at the Peace Conference of Versailles in 1919: toolkit3.html, and also via the Baruch Plan for World Government, in 1946: baruch-plan.html.

This faction mounted the Bolshevik Revolution: lenin-trotsky.html. Isaac Deutscher wrote in Russia After Stalin, "During the early years of the Soviet regime, the Bolshevik leaders had the feeling that they were Marxists in partibus infidelium, West European revolutionaries acting against a non-congenial Oriental background ... " (p. 32): beria.html.


Wells does not envisage world government through a world parliament:

"in a polyglot world a parliament of mankind or any sort of council that meets and talks is an inconceivable instrument of government" (p. 31). Rather, "the new directive organizations of men's affairs will not be of the same nature as old-fashioned governments. They will be in their nature biological, financial, and generally economic." (p. 32).

"Some method of decision there must certainly be and a definite administrative machinery. But it may turn out to be a much slighter, less elaborate organization than a consideration of existing methods might lead us to imagine. It may never become one single interlocking administrative system. We may have systems of world control rather than a single world state" (pp. 31-2).

World Government is a benign imperialism, a new kind of white man's burden:

"By its own organizations or through the police and military strength of governments amenable to its ideas, the movement is bound to find itself fighting for open roads, open frontiers, freedom of speech, and the realities of peace in regions of oppression. The Open Conspiracy rests upon a disrespect for nationality, and there is no reason why it should tolerate noxious or obstructive governments because they hold their own in this or that patch of human territory. It lies within the power of the Atlantic communities to impose peace upon the world and secure unimpeded movement and free speech from end to end of the earth" (p. 89).

The revolt of colonised regions of the world, India, China, Africa etc., against the European Empires, is assisted by the Open Conspiracy, and it invites their amenable leaders - the "finer, more emergetic minds" (p. 5 to move "from the sinking vessel of their antiquated order, across their present conquerors, into a brotherhood of world rulers" (p. 59). They are encouraged to turn to "the problem of saving and adapting all that is rich and distinctive of their inheritance to the common ends of the race" (p. 59).

"But to the less virorous intelligences of this outer world" - those not willing to submit - "the new project of the Open Conspiracy will seem no better than a new form of Western envelopment, and they will fight a mighty liberation as though it were a further enslavement to the European tradition. They will watch the Open Conspiracy for any signs of conscious superiority and racial disregard. Necessarily they will recognize it as a product of Western mentality ..." (p. 59).

Wells clearly presents a three-stage policy: 1. colonisation on the basis of the white race and the Christian religion 2. decolonisation: the attack on stage 1, an attack supported by the Open Conspiracy 3. recolonisation on a non-racial basis, by a new elite selected from all countries.

This has a direct bearing on the present situation in South Africa and China. The British Commonwealth and the United States helped the anti-apartheid movement, but are now imposing a new servitude, that of the free-market economy. This combination of Left social policy with Right economic policy is the characteristic feature of the Open Conspiracy. China has been assisted to modernise, but it too is being asked to submit to a new Western-imposed order, and is presently deciding whether to fight "a mighty liberation" to retain its independence. But, Wells says, the Open Conspiracy is not averse to bloodshed: "The establishment of the world community will surely exact a price - and who can tell what that price may be? - in toil, suffering, and blood" (p.91).

The method used by the Open Conspiracy within a country, is not military but "an incessant critical educational and propagandist activity" (p. 32).

"A lucid, dispassionate, and immanent criticism is the primary necessity, the living spirit of a world civilization" (p. 32).

"For each [social] class it has a conception of modification and development, and each class it approaches therefore at a distinctive angle. ... It must fight upon several fronts and with many sorts of equipment. It will have a common spirit, but it is quite conceivable that between many of its contributory factors there may be very wide gaps in understanding and sympathy. It is no sort of simple organization" (p. 47).

"There should be many types of groups. Collective action had better for a time - perhaps for a long time - be undertaken not through the merging of groups but through the formation of ad hoc associations for definitely specific ends, all making for the new world civilization. Open Conspirators will come into these associations to make a contribution." (p. 72).

"In this book we are not starting something; we are describing and participating in something which has started. ... To-day it may seem no more than a visionary idea; to-morrow it may be recognized as a world-wide force of opinion and will" (p. 73). "While the Open Conspiracy is no more than a discussion it may spread unopposed because it is disregarded. As a mainly passive resistance to militarism it may still be tolerable. But as its knowledge and experience accumulate and its organization become more effective and aggressive, as it begins to lay hands upon education, upon social habits, upon business developments, as it proceeds to take over the organization of the community, it will marshal not only its own forces but its enemies." (p. 90). "Our conception of an almost bloodless domination of the Atlantic communities may be merely the confident dream of a thinker whose thoughts have yet to be squarely challenged" (p. 90).

Wells appeals to Marxists to abandon Communism:

"It has pleased the vanity of the Communist party to imagine itself conducting a propaganda of world revolution. Its fate may be to develop upon lines that will make its more intelligent elements easily assimilable to the Open Conspiracy for a world revolution" (p. 60).

This seems to have happened to Mikhail Gorbachev. He abandoned Communism in order to join a single "world civilization".

Sections of the British Labour Party, having ousted Marx, are now turning openly to Wells.

H. G. Wells saw the end of World War I as an opportunity to create a new world. He supported both Lenin, and the attempt to create a World Government at the Treaty of Versailles. He also advocated the creation of a Jewish state: wells-lenin-league.html.

His ideas for a united world drew on Jewish thought, in discussions with David Lubin and Israel Zangwill.

Michael Higger, in his book The Jewish Utopia, explains that whereas Plato's Republic "is chiefy concerned with what will hold the ideal city together", "The rabbis, on the other hand, are mainly interested in that ideology which would hold the whole world, or the Universal State, together." (p. 5).

Higger writes that "A Jewish Utopia begins where Wells leaves off" (p. 6). That means, that the Zionists would assist the implementation of Wells' plan, then turn it into their own: : jewish-utopia.html.

H. G. Wells, Lionel Curtis, Henry Wickham Steed & Lord Grey advocate the League of Nations as a World Government - The Atlantic Monthly, 1919, January & February: house-schiff.html.

H.G. Wells' plans for World Government:

(1) The Open Conspiracy: opencon.html

(2) 4 other books by H.G. Wells on World Government: hgwells.html.

The One World Or None report of 1946: one-world-or-none.html.

Back to the One World index: oneworld.html.

Write to me at mailto:myers@cyberone.com.au.


Ron Paul on MSNBC's Decision '08


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Open Society, Open Conspiracy

Peter Myers, 3 Sept 1997; update April 17, 2004; bold emphasis added.

You are at http://users.cyberone.com.au/mye...rs/ opensoc.html.

Is the takeover of national economies, by the forces of Globalism, purely an ad hoc process, or does it operate to a plan? Could there be anything "conspiratorial" about it?

These days, conspiracy theories are considered a mark of the Far Right. However, the Marxist analysis of ideology is also conspiratorial: the leading purveyors of ideology, such as economists professing laissez-faire principles, are seen as willing and deliberate deceivers of their victims.

In 1946, just after the last world war, there were two huge armies in the world, those of the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. If ever there was a time when a world government might have been formed, this was it: if they had joined up, no other force could have resisted them.

Such a proposal was put in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists over several months in 1946. In his book Has Man a Future?, Bertrand Russell - an advocate of world government - describes how it developed, first as a proposal assembled by David Lilienthal, then in a form developed by Bernard Baruch (p. 25 & p. 97): russell2.html.

This Baruch Plan for World Government was canvassed in the issues of 1946 and put to Stalin: baruch-plan.html. By the end of that year, Stalin had rejected it, on the grounds that it required submission to Washington, and the Cold War had begun.

But what is most interesting is Bertrand Russell's article in the issue of October 1, 1946, titled The Atomic Bomb and the Prevention of War, where he writes,

"The American and British governments ... should make it clear that genuine international cooperation is what they most desire. But although peace should be their goal, they should not let it appear that they are for peace at any price. At a certain stage, when their plan (sic) for an international government are ripe, they should offer them to the world ... If Russia acquiesced willingly, all would be well. If not, it would be necessary to bring pressure to bear, even to the extent of risking war".

For a man with a reputation as a pacifist, it reads like a declaration of war. Given that the U.S. government had only recently demonstrated its firepower at Hisoshima, Russell's strongarm tactics would hardly have seemed enticing to Stalin. The theory that Communism is a Jewish conspiracy is clearly refuted, in that although Baruch and Lilienthal were Jews, they were on the Capitalist side.

Fifty years later, with the end of the Cold War, a similar scenario is upon us. Secretary of State Madeline Albright recently announced, "No nation in the world need be left out of the system we are constructing. ... We must take advantage of this historic opportunity that now exists to bring the world together in an international system based on democracy, open markets, law and a committment to peace" (Sydney Morning Herald, June 6, 1997). She conceded that "not every nation is yet ready to play its full part in this system", but said the world had no despot like the Soviet dictator Josef Stalin, who at the time of the Marshall Plan prevented eastern Europe from joining in.

H.G. Wells, like Russell an advocate of world government, wrote a book called The Open Conspiracy (1933): opencon.html. It was subsequently published under the title What Are We To Do With Our Lives?, but the quotes herein are from the 1933 edition, which was unusual in that it bears no publisher's name; bold emphasis is added.

The "Open Conspiracy", Wells says, is "a movement aiming at the establishment of a world directorate" (p. 33), "the world movement for the supercession or fusion of existing political, economic, and social institutions" (p. 32), "the working religion of most sane and energetic people" (p. 73).

In some respects, Wells' vision is Marxist: he supported the decolonisation movement, and has even been touted as one of the authors of Woodrow Wilson's 14-Point Plan (David C. Smith, H.G. Wells: Desperately Mortal, pp. 238 & 431).

In The Open Conspiracy he praises the U.S.S.R. for clearing away the old order (p. 60), and for the mental stimulation of their Five Year Plans, in the sense that through them "the idea of reorganizing the affairs of the world on quite a big scale", previously seen as utopian, came to be widely seen as realistic (p. 15); the world government he advocates would be anti-racist (p. 63), anti-nationalist (p. 73) and cosmopolitan. It would aim at eliminating sickness, famine and tyranny, and prevent over-population (p. 2.

Yet in other respects, Wells is quite anti-Marxist: "In practice Marxism is found to work out in a ready resort to malignantly destructive activities, and to be so uncreative as to be practically impotent in the face of material difficulties" (p. 45). "If now we reject the error and accept the truth, we lose the delusive comfort of belief in that magic giant, the Proletariat, who will dictate, arrange, restore, and create, but we clear the way for the recognition of an elite of intelligent, creative-minded people scattered through the whole community" (p.45).

I read Wells' criticism of "Marxism" in this book of 1933 as an attack on Stalinism. This is because he was a leading supporter of the early Soviet regime. Wells and the Webbs supported Trotsky (against Stalin) at the time of his Expulsion from the USSR: wells-lenin-league.html.

Pitirim Sorokin on Wells' visit to Russia in 1920: kronstadt.html.

"The Open Conspiracy ... starts with a proposal not to exalt the labour class but to abolish it, its sustaining purpose is to throw drudges out of employment and eliminate the inept - and it is far more likely to incur suspicion and distrust in the lower ranks of the developing industrial order of to-day than to win support there" (pp. 56-7). "Our hope for the human future does not lie in crowd psychology and the indiscriminating rule of universal democracy" (p. 56).

The new overclass, functioning as an elite like the old aristocracy of the British Empire, yet anti-monarchical and anti-Christian, combining right-wing economic policies with left-wing social policies - this is the very elite seen by Wells as running the world government:

"And when we come to the general functioning classes, landowners, industrial organizers, bankers, and so forth, who control the present system, such as it is, it should be still plainer that it is very largely from the ranks of these classes, and from their stores of experience and traditions of method, that the directive forces of the new order must emerge. The Open Conspiracy can have nothing to do with the heresy that the path of human progress lies through an extensive class war" (p. 46).


(4) Admiration from Oswald Spengler and Hitler

The following information comes from http://www.cecilrhodes.net/secret.html

{quote}
Cecil Rhodes' incredible achievements - one of the richest men in the world, the creator of the De Beers diamond empire, the founder of a new country, and the originator of the Rhodes Scholarships - were motivated by one single thing, his 'great idea'.

This idea came to him at the age of 24 with the force of a religious revelation. What is interesting is that it struck him in the hours immediately following his initiation into the Masonic Order while at Oxford University. ...

On the evening after the ceremony, Rhodes sat pondering what had happened that day. Then, as he puts it, the 'idea gleaming and dancing before one's eyes like a will-of-the-wisp at last frames itself into a plan'.

He proceeded to pen his `Confession of Faith' in which he outlined his ambition: to establish a secret society whose objective would be the furtherance of the British Empire and the uniting of the entire Anglo-Saxon race, including America, into one single empire.

From that day, June 2, 1877, Rhodes was a man with a mission, with his `Confession of Faith' his guiding star and inspiration. When he had grown to trust anybody, he would confidentially reveal his 'idea' to him and expect the man's life to be changed immediately. ...

Three months after his Masonic induction at Oxford, Rhodes was back at the diamond diggings of Kimberley, in South Africa. One night, while staying in his bachelor quarters, a very strange thing happened. `His friends', according to his biographer Sir Lewis Michell, `found him in his room, blue with fright, his door barricaded with a chest of drawers and other furniture; he insisted that he had seen a ghost.' Immediately after this pivotal crisis, Rhodes had his previously penned `Confession of Faith' (which also contained his last will and testament) legally formalised by a Kimberley attorney. From then on, his star was in the ascendent. ...

The German scientist, Oswald Spengler, in his `Decline and Fall of Civilisation in the West', described the spirit of colonial expansion which possessed Rhodes as something, `daemonic and immense, which grips, forces into service and uses up mankind.' And herein lies the clue to the careers of both Rhodes and Hitler, that at a point in their lives, they both encountered something `daemonic'.

In the years after the end of the First World War, Rhodes began to receive attention from the European political right wing precisely because his career showed such an elemental will to power. In 1918 the intellectual prophet of German Nazism, Oswald Spengler, published the first volume his famous work, 'The Decline of the West'. In this book, Spengler regards Rhodes with almost mystical awe, as a prototype of a new sort of leader. 'Rhodes is to be regarded as the first precursor of a western type of Caesar. He stands midway between Napolean and the force-men of the next centuries....in our Germanic world, the spirits of Alaric and Theodoric will come again - there is a first hint of them in Cecil Rhodes.'

Hitler himself appears to have made only one reference to Rhodes: at a dinner on April 18, 1942, he discussed Britain's failure to maintain the world position it had held in the Victorian age and commented that the only person who had understood the historical conditions for continuing British supremacy was Cecil Rhodes, whom the British had ignored.
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Both Aryanists and Zionists have a similar will-to-power. This explains how both were attracted to Nietzsche. The Zionist attachment is seen here: nietzsche.html
and the Aryanist here: nietzsche2.html


I, however, reject both. Thus "Neither Aryan Nor Jew".


(4) Admiration from Oswald Spengler and Hitler

The following information comes from http://www.cecilrhodes.net/secret.html

{quote}
Cecil Rhodes' incredible achievements - one of the richest men in the world, the creator of the De Beers diamond empire, the founder of a new country, and the originator of the Rhodes Scholarships - were motivated by one single thing, his 'great idea'.

This idea came to him at the age of 24 with the force of a religious revelation. What is interesting is that it struck him in the hours immediately following his initiation into the Masonic Order while at Oxford University. ...

On the evening after the ceremony, Rhodes sat pondering what had happened that day. Then, as he puts it, the 'idea gleaming and dancing before one's eyes like a will-of-the-wisp at last frames itself into a plan'.

He proceeded to pen his `Confession of Faith' in which he outlined his ambition: to establish a secret society whose objective would be the furtherance of the British Empire and the uniting of the entire Anglo-Saxon race, including America, into one single empire.

From that day, June 2, 1877, Rhodes was a man with a mission, with his `Confession of Faith' his guiding star and inspiration. When he had grown to trust anybody, he would confidentially reveal his 'idea' to him and expect the man's life to be changed immediately. ...

Three months after his Masonic induction at Oxford, Rhodes was back at the diamond diggings of Kimberley, in South Africa. One night, while staying in his bachelor quarters, a very strange thing happened. `His friends', according to his biographer Sir Lewis Michell, `found him in his room, blue with fright, his door barricaded with a chest of drawers and other furniture; he insisted that he had seen a ghost.' Immediately after this pivotal crisis, Rhodes had his previously penned `Confession of Faith' (which also contained his last will and testament) legally formalised by a Kimberley attorney. From then on, his star was in the ascendent. ...

The German scientist, Oswald Spengler, in his `Decline and Fall of Civilisation in the West', described the spirit of colonial expansion which possessed Rhodes as something, `daemonic and immense, which grips, forces into service and uses up mankind.' And herein lies the clue to the careers of both Rhodes and Hitler, that at a point in their lives, they both encountered something `daemonic'.

In the years after the end of the First World War, Rhodes began to receive attention from the European political right wing precisely because his career showed such an elemental will to power. In 1918 the intellectual prophet of German Nazism, Oswald Spengler, published the first volume his famous work, 'The Decline of the West'. In this book, Spengler regards Rhodes with almost mystical awe, as a prototype of a new sort of leader. 'Rhodes is to be regarded as the first precursor of a western type of Caesar. He stands midway between Napolean and the force-men of the next centuries....in our Germanic world, the spirits of Alaric and Theodoric will come again - there is a first hint of them in Cecil Rhodes.'

Hitler himself appears to have made only one reference to Rhodes: at a dinner on April 18, 1942, he discussed Britain's failure to maintain the world position it had held in the Victorian age and commented that the only person who had understood the historical conditions for continuing British supremacy was Cecil Rhodes, whom the British had ignored.
{end text}

Both Aryanists and Zionists have a similar will-to-power. This explains how both were attracted to Nietzsche. The Zionist attachment is seen here: nietzsche.html
and the Aryanist here: nietzsche2.html

I, however, reject both. Thus "Neither Aryan Nor Jew".


(3) The Zionist connection

From Sarah Gertrude Millin, Rhodes, London, Chatto Windus 1933, p. 85:

"The crux, as Rhodes would have expressed it, was the French Company. It all depended on who could buy out the French Company. Rhodes did so. He was associated now in this business with the Hamburg Jew, Alfred Beit. ... He was richer even than Rhodes. The path from one Jew to another is an easy one. Rhodes went to England to see Lord Rothschild, and Lord Rothschild approved of him. Within a few days, as Rhodes described it in a subsequent speech, he had three-quarters of a million pounds."

Carroll Quigley reveals in The Anglo-American Establishment, p. 34:

"In each of his seven wills, Rhodes entrusted his bequest to a group of men to carry out his purpose. In the first will, as we have seen, the trustees were Lord Carnarvon and Sidney Shippard. In the second will (1882), the sole trustee was his friend N. E. Pickering. In the third will (188, Pickering having died, the sole trustee was Lord Rothschild. In the fourth will (1891), W. T. Stead was added, while in the fifth (1892), Rhodes's solicitor, B. F. Hawksley, was added to the previous two. In the sixth (1893) and seventh (1899) wills, the personnel of the trustees shifted considerably, ending up, at Rhodes's death in 1902, with a board of seven trustees: Lord Milner, Lord Rosebery, Lord Grey, Alfred Beit {of Rothschild's faith: see p. 135}, L. L. Michell, B. F. Hawksley, and Dr. Starr Jameson. This is the board to which the world looked to set up the Rhodes Scholarships." quigley.html.

In World War I, the British Empire had to go cap-in-hand to Lord Rothschild, to get the US to join the war. In return, Britain had to guarantee Palestine as a Jewish homeland; this contract was the basis of the creation of the state of Israel.

Robert John, Behind the Balfour Declaration: balfour.html

Strangely, the Balfour Declaration confirmed Rhodes' view of the importance of Anglo-American unity; yet in the end this unity between Anglo-Saxons was only achieved via Jewish middlemen.

Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar; so were two of Australia's recent Prime Ministers, Malcolm Fraser and Bob Hawke. All three are strong Zionists.

Benjamin H. Freedman, an American Jew who converted to Christianity, said in a speech: freedman.html

{quote}
I say that the United States was almost totally pro-German because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews; and they, the Jews, were pro-German. They were pro-German because many of them had come from Germany, and also they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar. The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. These German-Jew bankers, like Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: "As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!" But they poured money into Germany, they fought beside Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.

Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like a traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. They were no good. Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.

The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." That's how the United States got into the war.
{end quote}

Hellenism, Zionism and Marxism of the Trotskyist kind, jostle for domination within the Empire. The banning of "female genital mutilation" is an example of a Trotskyist win over the Hellenists. The inability of the CFR to use the threat of withholding its aid to Israel, as a lever to bring peace in the Middle East, attests to the struggle between the Hellenists and the Zionists.


alien presence?
hello,
what are you referring to?
do you mean extra-terrestrials have landed?
jake | 06.20.07 - 8:30 am _____________________
Are you serious? You have such doubts -- And YOU a religious person?

Here's a little something I think might interest you -- from the Holy Bible, King James Version:

Genesis 6:4 There wer giants in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the SONS OF GOD CAME IN UNTO THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
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2 Kings 2:10 ***behold, there APPEARED A CHARIOT OF FIRE, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder, and Elijah WENT UP by a whirlwind into heaven.
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2 Kings 6:17 *** and, hehold, the mountain was full of horses and CHARIOTS OF FIRE round about Elisha.
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2 Samuel 22:7 ***And he rode upon a cherub, and did FLY and he was SEEN UPON THE WINGS of the wind***and THICK CLOUDS of the skies. Through the brightness before him were coals of FIRE kindled.
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Ezekiel 1:15 Now as I BEHELD the living CREATUES, behold one WHEEL upon the earth by the living creatures, with four faces. The appearance of the WHEELS and THEIR WORK was like unto the colour of a BERYL(*) and they four had one likeness, and their appearance and their work was as i were a WHEEL IN THE MIDDLE OF A WHEEL***As for their RINGS, they were so high that they were dreadful, and their RINGS WERE FULL OF EYES ROUND ABOUT THEM four. And when the LIVING CREATURES WENT, the WHEELS WENT BY THEM, and when the living creatures were LIFTED UP FROM THE EARTH, THE WHEELS WERE LIFTED UP.

*beryl: Wesbter's Dictionary: A mineral composed chiefly of beryllium (etc) ...

beryllium: Webster's Dictionary: A lightweight, corrosion-resistant, rigid, steel-gray metalllic element.


To forward such a scheme what a splendid help a secret society would be a society not openly acknowledged but who would work in secret for such an object.

I contend that there are at the present moment numbers of the ablest men in the world who would devote their whole lives to it. I often think what a loss to the English nation in some respects the abolition of the Rotten Borough System has been. What thought strikes a man entering the house of commons, the assembly that rules the whole world? I think it is the mediocrity of the men but what is the cause. It is simply - an assembly of wealth of men whose lives have been spent in the accumulation of money and whose time has been too much engaged to be able to spare any for the study of past history. And yet in the hands of such men rest our destinies. Do men like the great Pitt, and Bourke and Sheridan not now exist. I contend they do. There are men now living with I know no other term the {greek script} mega chschegis {end greek script; the second word is surely incorrecttly written by Rhodes} of Aristotle but there are not ways for enabling them to serve their Country. They live and die unused unemployed. What has been the main cause of the success of the Romish Church? The fact that every enthusiast, call it if you like every madman finds employment in it. Let us form the same kind of society a Church for the extension of the British Empire. A society which should have its members in every part of the British Empire working with one object and one idea we should have its members placed at our universities and our schools and should watch the English youth passing through their hands just one

{p. 251} perhaps in every thousand would have the mind and feelings for such an object, he should be tried in every way, he should be tested whether he is endurant, possessed of eloquence, disregardful of the petty details of life, and if found to be such, then elected and bound by oath to serve for the rest of his life in his Country. He should then be supported if without means by the Society and sent to that part of the Empire where it was felt he was needed.

Take another case, let us fancy a man who finds himself his own master with ample means on attaining his majority whether he puts the question directly to himself or not, still like the old story of virtue and vice in the Memorabilia a fight goes on in him as to what he should do. Take it he plunges into dissipation there is nothing too reckless he does not attempt but after a time his life pulls on him, he mentally says this is not good enough, he changes his life, he reforms, he travels, he thinks now I have found the chief good in life, the novelty wears off, and he tires, to change again, he goes into the far interior after the wild game he thinks at last I've found that in life of which I cannot tire, again he is disappointed. He returns he thinks is there nothing I can do in life? Here I am with means, with a good house, with everything that is to envied and yet I am not happy I am tired of life he possesses within him a portion of the {greek script} mega chschegis {end greek script; the second word is surely incorrecttly written by Rhodes} of Aristotle but he knows it not, to such a man the Society should go, should test, and should finally show him the greatness of the scheme and list him as a member.

Take one more case of the younger son with high thoughts, high aspirations, endowed by nature with all the faculties to make a great man, and with the sole wish in his life to serve his Country but he lacks two things the means and the opportunity, ever troubled by a sort of inward deity urging him on to high and noble deeds, he is compelled to pass his time in some occupation which furnishes him with mere existence, he lives unhappily and dies miserably. Such men as these the Society should search out and use for the furtherance of their object.

(In every Colonial legislature the Society should attempt to have its members prepared at all times to vote or speak and advocate the closer union of England and the colonies, to crush all disloyalty and every movement for the severance of our Empire. The Society should inspire and even own portions of the press for the press rules the mind of the people. The Society should always be searching for members who might by their position in the world by their energies or character forward the object but the ballot and test for admittance should be severe)

{p. 252} Once make it common and it fails. Take a man of great wealth who is bereft of his children perhaps having his mind soured by some bitter disappointment who shuts himself up separate from his neighbours and makes up his mind to a miserable existence. To such men as these the society should go gradually disclose the greatness of their scheme and entreat him to throw in his life and property with them for this object. I think that there are thousands now existing who would eagerly grasp at the opportunity. Such are the heads of my scheme.

For fear that death might cut me off before the time for attempting its development I leave all my worldly goods in trust to S. G. Shippard and the Secretary for the Colonies at the time of my death to try to form such a Society with such an object.

{end of Rhodes' Will}

(2) This is the origin of the Round Table and the Council On Foreign Relations

Rhodes' secret society is called the Round Table; its American branch, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), was set up just after World War I, as the headquarters moved, in effect, across the Atlantic, a move anticipated decades earlier.

In his book on Rhodes' secret society, The Anglo-American Establishment, Carroll Quigley wrote, "in February 1891, Stead and Rhodes ... agreed that, if necessary in order to achieve Anglo-American unity, Britain should join the United States" (p. 3: quigley.html.

The CFR set up the Trilateral Commission to co-ordinate North America, Western Europe and Japan.

The British Empire is now called the British Commonwealth, a name-change pioneered by Round Table leader Lionel Curtis. Carroll Quigley wrote of Curtis, 'In 1911 Curtis decided that the name of His Majesty's Dominions must be changed from "British Empire" to "Commonwealth of Nations." This was done officially in 1948.' (The Anglo-American Establishment, p. 63): quigley.html.

The KBE and DBE awards are still issued (Knight and Dame of the British Empire), although Americans can only constitutionally accept them on an honorary basis. George Bush Snr has an honorary KBE; Elizabeth Taylor an honorary DBE.

The Empire is no longer white-racist, but has become multi-cultural (Hellenistic). It has invited leaders from other peoples to join it in world-rulership. Open Society, Open Conspiracy: opensoc.html

It won the Cold War, yet its own civilization seems close to collapse, on account of the New Left (Trotskyist) takeover of its cultural institutions.


Cecil Rhodes' Will - Peter Myers, May 20, 2002; update April 9, 2004. My comments are shown {thus}.


You are at http://users.cyberone.com.au/mye...hodes- will.html.

(1) Rhodes' Will endows a Secret Society (2) This is the origin of the Round Table and the Council On Foreign Relations (3) The Zionist connection (4) Admiration from Oswald Spengler and Hitler

(1) Rhodes' Will endows a Secret Society

John Flint, Cecil Rhodes, Little, Brown & Co, Boston 1974; and Hutchinson, London, 1976.

John Flint, Cecil Rhodes, Hutchinson, London, 1976, pp. 248-52:

{p. 248} Rhodes' "Confession of Faith" of 1877

Two manuscript versions exist. The first, in Rhodes' own handwriting, was written on June 2, 1877, at Oxford. The second is a fair copy made by a clerk in Kimberley in the summer of 1877, with additions and alterations in Rhodes' handwriting. It is this second fair copy which is reproduced here. It is not clear why the paragrapph at the end of the document was placed in parentheses. The final paragraph was not in the original draft, was added in Kimberely, and thereafter was crossed out, presumably when Rhodes made a more formal will. The document is reproduced here in its original form, without any editing of spelling or punctuation.

It often strikes a man to enquire what is the chief goal in life; to one the thought comes that it is a happy marriage, to another great wealth, and as each seizes on his idea, for that he more or less works for the rest of his existence. To myself thinking over the same question the wish came to render myself useful to my country. I then asked myself how could I and after reviewing the various methods I have felt that at the present day we are actually limiting our children and perhaps bringing into the world half the human beings we might owing to the lack of country for them to inhabit {a lebensraum argument} that if we had retained America there would at this moment be millions more of English living. I contend that we are the finest race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race {a master-race argument}. Just fancy those parts that are at

{p. 249} present inhabited by the most despicable specimens of human beings {a genocidal sentiment} what an alteration there would be if they were brought under Anglo-Saxon influence, look again at the extra employment a new country added to our dominions gives. I contend that every acre added to our territory means in the future birth to some more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence {advocates population displacement}. Added to this the absorption of the greater portion of the world under our rule simply means the end of all wars {but slavery to the conquered}, at this moment had we not lost America I believe we could have stopped the Russian-Turkish war by merely refusing money and supplies. Having these ideas what scheme could we think of to forward this object. I look into history and I read the story of the Jesuits I see what they were able to do in a bad cause and I might say under bad leaders.

In the present day I became a member of the Masonic order I see the wealth and power they possess the influence they hold and I think over their ceremonies and I wonder that a large body of men can devote themselves to what at times appear the most ridiculous and absurd rites without an object and without an end.

The idea gleaming and dancing before one's eyes like a will-of-the wisp at last frames itself into a plan. Why shold we not form a secret society with but one object the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilised world under British rule for the recovery of the United States for the making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire. What a dream, but yet it is probable, it is possible. I once heard it argued by a fellow in my own college, I am sorry to own it by an Englishman, that it was a good thing for us that we have lost the United States. There are some subjects on which there can be no arguments, and to an Englishman this is one of them, but even from an American's point of view just picture what they have lost, look at their government, are not the frauds that yearly come before the public view a disgrace to any country and especially their's which is the finest in the world. Would they have occurred had they remained under English rule great as they have become how infinitely greater they would have been with the softening and elevating influences of English rule, think of those countless 000's of Englishmen that during the last 100 years would have crossed the Atlantic and settled and populated the United States. Would they have not made without any prejudice a finer country of it than the low class Irish and German emigrants? All this we have lost and that country loses owing to whom? Owing to two or three ignorant pig-headed statesmen of the last century, at their door lies the blame. Do you

{p. 250} ever feel mad? do you ever feel murderous. I think I do with those men. I bring facts to prove my assertions. Does an English father when his sons wish to emigrate ever think of suggesting emigration under another flag, never - it would seem a disgrace to suggest such a thing I think that we all think that poverty is better under our own flag rather than wealth under a foreign one.

Put your mind into another train of thought. Fancy Australia discovered and colonised under the French flag, what would it mean merely several millions of English unborn that at present exist {Hitler was not more racist} we learn from the past and to form our future. We learn through having lost to cling to wehat we possess. We know the size of the world we know the total extent. Africa is still lying ready for us it is our duty to take it. It is our duty to seize every oportunity of acquiring more territory and we should keep this one idea steadily before our eyes that more territory simply means more of the Anglo-Saxon race more of the best the most human, most honourable race the world possesses {i.e. genocide of other peoples}.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h? v=IlR6L8N2D44

Dang, did that URL not stick before for some reason? This is that same page with Maurice Strong and the enigmatic comment about current or coming events.


GAK I really am not just insulting you now, you need to get back on your meds.


NEWS FLASH Democratic candidates squabble over Iraq war while hundreds of thousands of women and children die good work dumocrats


RON PAUL LEFT OUT !!


http://www.charlotteconservative...-paul-left-out/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...?v=I...related& search=

That link is a clip of Maurice Strong at the Earth Summit in Rio in 1992. Check out that comment:
"Keep your eyes on him closely to see why what's going to happen in New York in June of 2007 is created by him and those he represents." It's June 2007 right now. Did I miss something, or is this guy talking about something that's about to happen? Just thought this was weird ... anybody have any idea what he's talking about?
Gomer B | 06.20.07 - 10:42 am | #
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If you think that was prophetic, check out this. Every second of this video reveals what the last 15 years and the next 15 years will bring:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808

More on the youth mind control:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h? v=cIJoJfsZ8uM


Michael Moore: 911 could be an inside job....


Please REDDIT !!!!!!

http://reddit.com/info/1zll1/comments


from New Zealand !
Michael Moore: 9/11 Could Be Inside Job

Article quoting The Jones Report

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/H...0706/ S00250.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...related& search=

That link is a clip of Maurice Strong at the Earth Summit in Rio in 1992. Check out that comment:
"Keep your eyes on him closely to see why what's going to happen in New York in June of 2007 is created by him and those he represents." It's June 2007 right now. Did I miss something, or is this guy talking about something that's about to happen? Just thought this was weird ... anybody have any idea what he's talking about?


Interview with Michael Moore

The Awful Truth About 9/11


http://www.reason.com/blog/show/...how/ 120903.html


Who are the Rothchilds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...related& search=


Illuminati face recognition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...related& search=


i pray every night i know what i sow i pray that god will bring down the evil empire that has grown like a canser for over a hundred years


ohhhhhhhhh he speakith in riddles


we will reap what we have sown
collectively
individually
definitely
jake | 06.20.07 - 9:41 am
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I hope that's true because I worked real hard a vegetable garden this year // plenty of beans, an assortment of tomatoes and peppers, some squash -- things that I hope will bring much food to our family table. Seriously, no joke intended.

I do know what you mean in those words as you stated them -- but who really talks like that today outside of a preacher standing at a podium?


the morning show why are americans work aholics he dumb assess most americans are over worked and totally stressed out or used so much the back just cant take it wake up follow the money


Ron Paul to Matrix music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?v=Pda- rT1sf2M


Call for Scotland to try Blair as 'war criminal'
IAN SWANSON
SCOTTISH POLITICAL EDITOR (iswanson@edinburghnews.com)
http://news.scotsman.com/politic...07& format=print
SCOTLAND'S Lord Advocate was today urged to prosecute Tony Blair as a war criminal for the invasion of Iraq.

Former MP Jim Sillars said he had written to Elish Angiolini with a 10,000-word document setting out a formal complaint against the Prime Minister.

And he said Scots law allowed Mr Blair to be put on trial despite such a move being ruled out south of the Border.

The move came as Westminster Tories called for an immediate inquiry into the war in Iraq in a move expected to cause a Labour backbench rebellion. Shadow foreign secretary William Hague was using a Commons debate to call for a hearing by senior politicians with powers to summon officials and military commanders.

Mr Sillars, who is married to independent Lothians MSP Margo MacDonald, claimed Mr Blair was guilty of conspiracy with others to wage aggressive war, and waging aggressive war against the state of Iraq in March 2003, contrary to international law and the law of Scotland.

In his letter to the Lord Advocate, he said: "I am requesting you to investigate this complaint and prosecute in a Scottish court."

Mr Sillars emphasised that despite his political past - first as a Labour MP and then as SNP MP and deputy leader - the complaint against Mr Blair was based on legal principles and case law and was not a political initiative.

He told Ms Angiolini in the letter: "You will find that the research is sound, and that the case against Tony Blair is a strong one. You, of course, will be able to dig wider and deeper than I can as an ordinary citizen, and I am sure that when you do you will reach the same conclusion as contained in the complaint."

Mr Sillars said it was generally believed that Mr Blair could not be indicted for war crimes over Iraq.

But Mr Sillars claimed Scotland's High Court had "declaratory powers" which enabled it to embrace international crimes in Scots law.

He said: "I have spent since January of this year, with a break for the election, researching the case against Blair and whether he could be indicted through the Scottish criminal justice system. The complaint lodged with the Lord Advocate shows the conclusion to that effort. Blair can, in my opinion, be tried in a Scottish court; and the evidence of his conspiracy through deception, lies and misinformation, and his intention of committing the illegal act of regime change through aggressive war, is quite clear. "

Mr Sillars said the Prime Minister had carried on because he felt immune from prosecution.

Mr Hague said today that the presence of UK soldiers in Iraq could not be used as an excuse to "indefinitely postpone" the inquiry. He wants an investigation along the lines of the wide-ranging inquiry into the Falklands War chaired by philosopher Oliver Franks.

Downing Street has said it will hold a probe into the war and the faulty intelligence about Saddam Hussein's Weapons of Mass Destruction, but not while UK troops are in the country.

And Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett is expected to dismiss the call, arguing there have already been four inquiries into various aspects of the war and that another one would distract from the efforts of troops on the ground.


MEET THE MARTYRDOM GRADUATES OF 2007
This graduation celebration was allegedly carried out on June 9, 2007 in the Afghan-Pakistan border region and filmed by a Pakistani journalist. With over 300 martyrdom “graduates”, these operatives are said to be ready for deployment to the countries that are waging war against Muslims in the hot zones including the United States, Canada, UK and Germany. While the validity of the tape is yet unclear, mostly due to the fact that its was released by Zionist-owned ABC News and there has been no comment as of press time from the Taliban, here are some still shots from the footage.
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&


Sectarian Killing Spree Continues: 33 More Bodies Recovered In Baghdad Monday
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
Not a day goes by in Iraq without more tortured and murdered bodies of Sunnis being found as the Death Squads, under the guise of the so-called Iraqi Army and the Badr corps carry out their acts of ethnic cleansing, with 35 more bodies discovered Monday.


Taliban Take Another District Amid Reports Of Intense Attacks In The Past Three Days
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
As Afghan forces admitted that the Taliban had captured the Myanishen district in southern Afghanistan and officals poured over the so-called “Grads” video, the Islamic Emirate released a fresh report on military operations it conducted in the past three days.


US Strike On Madrassa In Waziristan Surrounded In Controversy As Death Toll Remains At 32
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
The suspect US air strike on the Binori Madrassa in the Datta Khel area of North Wazirstan where students and teachers were in classes is now surrounded in controversy, with local villagers claiming that the 32 deaths were caused by missiles fired from a US drone.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Five US Vehicles Destroyed Killing 25 Soldiers In Advance Of "Operation Arrowhead Ripper"
http://www.jihadunspun.com/inthe...ist=/index.php&
As US forces get underway with major offensive deploying 10,000 troops into Diyala province, the Islamic State of Iraq's Mujahideen threw the first volley by taking out five vehicles and 25 soldiers in Baqubah in advance of the latest US onslaught.

While the US and its dutiful media have refused to acknowledge the Islamic State of Iraq, preferring to refer to it as “Al-Qaeda”, the mere fact that 10,000 troops are heading into Diyala makes clear that the Americans are not fighting a single group but rather an organized Muslim State that is part of the Caliphate that is emerging worldwide.

While this new American operation has no timeline, rest assured that Allah does and considering the preemptive strike the Mujahideen have carried out, it appears that the soldiers of the Islamic State of primed for the battle.

Meanwhile, the Information Ministry for the Islamic State of Iraq’s released statements on other operations its Mujahideen carried out in including a martyrdom operation in Diyala and released details of recent military operations in Fallujah.

Here are their reports, published uncut and uncensored, as translated by JUS.


“The Justice Department has opted out of at least 10 whistle-blower lawsuits alleging fraud and corruption in government reconstruction and security contracts in Iraq, and has spent years investigating additional fraud cases but has yet to try to recover any money.”
http://www.boston.com/news/natio...r_suits/? page=1
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“At least 40 percent of State Department diplomats who have served in danger zones suffer some symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder,” an American Foreign Service Association official told Congress yesterday. “The State Department has provided limited help for diplomats under duress,” including dispatching just two psychiatrists to Iraq.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...l? nav=rss_world


we will reap what we have sown
collectively
individually
definitely


Let's get ready to rumble:

http://video.google.com/ videopla...229419345976206


"Bomb kills 78 in Baghdad, U.S. in big offensive"

Bush's govt./administration 'declared' war on these people - and now that people are being violent back, they/the govt. don't like it - it's not fair! Boo hoo...
F*ckin' idiots - what did they expect?
Peace


Bloomberg At Google Campus States "U.S. Is Really in Trouble"
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/ 1...agewanted=print
Bloomberg told a crowd of Google employees that the nation was “really in trouble.” “Our reputation has been hurt very badly in the last few years,” he continued, criticizing what he called a “go-it-alone mentality” in an increasingly interconnected world.


China arming terrorists
http://www.washingtontimes.com/ a...=73284714278270
The Washington Times reported June 5 that Chinese-made HN-5 anti-aircraft missiles were being used by the Taliban.China, for its part, offered to transport the weapons in order to prevent the weapons from being interdicted. http://worldmonitor.wordpress.com


Revealed: secret talks over Lib Dems in Brown cabinet
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/ g...ed=networkfront
Gordon Brown and Sir Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat leader, have held private discussions in recent days about a plan for one or two senior Lib Dems to join Mr Brown's first cabinet, the Guardian has been told by a well-placed source. It is being emphasised that the discussions have not been about a coalition


Passport checks threaten chaos at airports
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ ...airports120.xml
Holidaymakers were warned yesterday to expect summer holiday travel chaos as the first signs emerged that the Government's new border controls are causing significant delays at airports. The introduction of sophisticated scanning machinery by the newly-created Border and Immigration Agency (BIA) has doubled the time it takes to process passengers a


I loved how the way that We Are Change put together the Hillary video. I do believe every one bit of it. She just may end up becoming our first female president, being that she is high up in the hierarchy of the Illuminati.

I was reading one book entitled "Bloodlines of the Illuminati", and it had stated that her title in the Illuminati is "Grand Madame." It kind of sounds like a term that a female Mason of great power would attain. And, just to include her husband, maybe Bill plays like he loves Black people so much.

Maybe that was just a setup from the get-go. We cannot allow this to continue but it seems as if we really have no choice. Hillary reminds me of Queen Jezebel in the Bible. Finally, even though Hillary appears sweet and innocent, she is a two-faced hypocritical DEVIL!

God Bless CHANGE,

ICESTER10


POLICEMAN CONFESS - POLICE BRUTALITY in GENOVA 2001 - VIDEO
http:// surfparadise80.blogspot.c...poliziotto.html
G8, CONFESSIONE choc di un POLIZIOTTO: «DIAZ? Fu una macelleria» - POLICEMAN CONFESS - POLICE BRUTALITY in GENOVA 2001 - VIDEO


The Bushites Have Outsourced Our Government to Their Pals
http://www.alternet.org/story/54623/
The sprawling $43 billion homeland security department is known for being in charge of America's color-coded terrorist-threat alarm system, a sham that obscures HSD's real mission: to serve as a giant federal cookie jar for corporate America.


DoJ pushes Microsoft to produce Vista SP1 in '07
http://www.computerworld.com/ act...urce=rss_news50
It's unusual, but confirmation of the availability of Windows Vista's first service pack came yesterday not from Microsoft Corp., but from the U.S. Department of Justice. Tucked into the government's 27-page joint status settlement report (download PDF) released late Tuesday was evidence that Microsoft will put the beta of Vista SP1 into users' han


Ron Paul: Key California Republican Group Endorses Ron Paul


http:// www.allamericanpatriots.c...dorses_ron_paul


June 19, 2007
Rudy's Very Bad Day
http://www.captainsquartersblog....ives/ 010290.php
When Rudy Giuliani has a bad day, he goes all out. America's Mayor spent June 19th parrying three different national stories, all of them reflective on his campaign for the presidency, and none of them complimentary. The first story was his sudden drop into second place in the latest Rasmussen poll. The second was his sudden departure from the Iraq Study Group:
Rudolph Giuliani's membership on an elite Iraq study panel came to an abrupt end last spring after he failed to show up for a single official meeting of the group, causing the panel's top Republican to give him a stark choice: either attend the meetings or quit, several sources said.

Giuliani left the Iraq Study Group last May after just two months, walking away from a chance to make up for his lack of foreign policy credentials on the top issue in the 2008 race, the Iraq war.

He cited "previous time commitments" in a letter explaining his decision to quit, and a look at his schedule suggests why -- the sessions at times conflicted with Giuliani's lucrative speaking tour that garnered him $11.4 million in 14 months.

Giuliani failed to show up for a pair of two-day sessions that occurred during his tenure, the sources said -- and both times, they conflicted with paid public appearances shown on his recent financial disclosure. Giuliani quit the group during his busiest stretch in 2006, when he gave 20 speeches in a single month that brought in $1.7 million.

And the third story features his South Carolina campaign state chair, Thomas Ravenel. who just got indicted on serious drug charges:
State Treasurer Thomas Ravenel was indicted Tuesday on charges of cocaine possession and intent to distribute it. Gov. Mark Sanford immediately suspended him from state office.

“Given the grave nature of these charges and what is alleged in this indictment, we’re left with no choice but to suspend Treasurer Ravenel immediately,” Gov. Sanford said Tuesday afternoon. “These are obviously very serious allegations that we’re constitutionally bound to act upon, and they’ll ultimately be decided by the courts.”

At a press conference late Tuesday, South Carolina Law Enforcement Department Chief Robert Stewart said Ravenel emerged as a participant in an ongoing cocaine sting in Charleston County. He said Ravenel was charged with possession and was sharing — not selling — powder cocaine with an undisclosed number of people.

None of these stories will do permanent damage to Rudy, but having them all hit at once certainly gives the sense of a campaign under fire. Giuliani's campaign has responded to the latter two stories, mostly to distance Rudy from both. They claim that Rudy left the ISG because of his pending presidential campaign, and that they have no information regarding Ravenel and his drug use.


Ron Paul: "No Amnesty, No Welfare for Illegal Aliens"

http:// www.allamericanpatriots.c..._illegal_aliens


Every Toy Recalled In The U.S. Shares The Same Label: Made In China
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/1...ess/ 19toys.html
The New York Times is reporting that China is responsible for each and every one of the 24 toy recalls issued this year. Chinese manufactures supply up to 80% of the toys sold on the U.S. market. A new record was even set last year after the CPSC yanked 467 Chinese products off U.S. shelves.


NOAA's Weather Station Temperature Data Could Be Severely Flawed
http://igottarant.com/showthread...ead.php? t=41649
To assure accuracy, stations should be 100 feet from buildings, not placed on hot concrete, close to an air-conditioning exhaust vent, or next to a drum where trash is burned. Localized changes in the temperature-measurement environment is raising doubts about NOAA's past and current temperature reports.


REPORT: Russia selling its most advanced fighter jets to Syria
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Sat...icle% 2FShowFull
The contract with Syria will be the first export deal for the MiG-31E, a heavy twin-engined interceptor fighter capable of flying at nearly three times the speed of sound and simultaneously shooting several targets at ranges of up to 180 kilometers away.


OMG Gabe, you're still at it from last nite? ... and now you have your homo friend jbrid working the forum with you.

How sweet.

Good morning retards!


Ron Paul Pro Health Legislation

http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp? nid=44108


Iowans for Tax Relief But Not Ron Paul


http://www.freeliberal.com/blog/...ives/ 002815.php


RON PAUL MDNBC 6-19-2007
http://video.google.com/ videopla...229419345976206


>>>>TOTAL BS ALERT!!!!!!
Simulation finds 9/11 fireproofing key
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20070...acks_simulation
By STEVE HERMAN, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 6 minutes ago

INDIANAPOLIS - A computer simulation of the 2001 World Trade Center attacks supports a federal agency's findings that the initial impact from the hijacked airplanes stripped away crucial fireproofing material and that the weakened towers collapsed under their own weight. ADVERTISEMENT



The two-year Purdue University study, funded in part by the National Science Foundation, was the first to use 3-D animation to provide visual context to the attacks, said Christoph Hoffmann, a professor of computer science and one of the lead researchers on the project.

"One thing it does point out... is the absolute essential nature of fireproofing steel structures," Hoffmann told The Associated Press. "This is something that wasn't done originally in the World Trade Center when it was built. It wasn't code at that time."

Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering and a lead investigator on the simulation, said Purdue researchers hope their work leads to better structural design and building codes to prevent similar collapses.

"In the unfortunate development that we shall have to design structures to survive such events, the methods we have developed and will be developing will be of great use to designers," Sozen said.

The animation, intended in part to help engineers design safer buildings, begins with a map of lower Manhattan as it appeared on Sept. 11, 2001. The video then shows a plane slicing through several stories of the World Trade Center's north tower and follows the disintegrating plane through the interior and out the opposite side.

The report concludes that the weight of the aircraft's fuel, when ignited, produced "a flash flood of flaming liquid" that knocked out a number of structural columns within the building and removed the fireproofing insulation from other support structures, Hoffmann said.

The simulation also found that the airplane's metal skin peeled away shortly after impact and shows how the titanium jet engine shafts flew through the building like bullets.

Ayhan Irfanoglu, a Purdue professor of civil engineering, said half of the building's weight-bearing columns were concentrated at the cores of the towers.

"When that part is wiped out, the structure comes down," Irfanoglu said. "We design structures with some extra capacity to cover some uncertainties, but we never anticipate such heavy demand coming from an aircraft impact. If the columns were distributed, maybe, the fire could not take them out so easily."

A 2005 report following a three-year investigation by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, a federal engineering agency, recommended that cities raise fire standards for skyscrapers and develop new materials that can better protect tall buildings from fire. That analysis did not blame the collapse on the steel or design of the towers, but instead focused on the damage to the fireproofing.

Shyam Sunder, the lead NIST investigator, said he was aware of the Purdue study and called it and his own agency's study "among probably the most prominent analyses that have been conducted in the United States."

The animation is the latest project by the Purdue team to assess the structural damage from the Sept. 11 attacks. The team also studied the impact of the crash into the Pentagon.


What about Ron Paul?


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/ ar...RTICLE_ID=56269


Paul is different

I must take issue with Jim Borgman's editorial cartoon (June 9 Opinion) showing an elephant sitting in front of many bowls of vanilla ice cream. It was obviously meant to convey the idea that all the GOP presidential candidates are uniformly similar and bland.

This is not the case regarding Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, who is currently serving his 10th term.

Paul, also a physician, has a voting record in Congress that is consistently and strictly according to the U.S. Constitution. He never votes for a bill that goes beyond what the Constitution allows and is known as "Dr. No" for this reason.

Paul has never voted for increased taxes, an unbalanced budget, going to war (although he did vote to allow the military to go after al-Qaida following the Sept. 11 attacks), and he has voted against the Iraq war, the USA Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act (which stripped us of the right of habeas corpus).

Paul has not accepted any increase in pay since returning to Congress. He returns a large portion of his allotment for staff and office expenses each year to the U.S. Treasury. No lobbyists darken his door, as they know they are wasting their time.

Borgman was dead wrong. Paul is no bowl of the same old vanilla the rest of the crowd is serving up. He is not just another politician, but rather a statesman of a kind all but extinct in this day and age.

Please go to the Web site RonPaul2008.com for more information on this rarity in American politics.

STEVEN A. ROSILE
Wichita


I have seen UFO's, and I have studied aliens and such for over 20 years now.

Millions of credible multiple witness sightings.
Start with google videos- "Phil Schnieder"
Also "The Disclosure Project"
And "William Cooper".

This subject is above top secret, and the government has a blanket disinfo and denial policy.

Call me at 605-645-8705 for more details.
Red pill goes deep.


Your View -- Ron Paul has courage to speak frankly about war


http://www.mankatofreepress.com/ ..._170233218.html


alien presence?
hello,
what are you referring to?
do you mean extra-terrestrials have landed?


what alien presence?


That's what I thought. But the Mossad doesn't really amount to much on the international scene. And I am skeptical of any scenario that does not involve the Reptilians, who are the premiere problem on this planet. The Mossad has power, yes. But by not investigating the alien question, you are castrating the truth and inventing scenarios. It may sound crazy, but we must address the alien presence at some point. Otherwise, we shall remain the insignifigant sand that is the dust in the wind.


Moshe Dayan was in charge of Mossad during the heady days of the state of Israel's new independence. At the time every moslem country in the middle east was threatening to "push the jews back into the sea". Surrounded by enemies larger than herself, Israel not only survives but increases in power. Unfortunately, she does so over the dead bodies of the Palestinian people. Mossad may be the premier intelligence agency on the planet.


GAK---Mossad is the Israeli version of our central intelligence agency; not sure what the exact translation means. It is a very powerful and effective agency and is one of the main reasons Israel still exists as a state.


Good morning Patriots. I have been manning the walls all night.


Mr. Scott died in Redmond WA. I topped alot of trees there. I loved star trek.
Never insult the Enterprise!


This may sound weird, but what the hell is the Mossad?


I read "The kite runner" last year upon a friends recomendation. Pretty good perspective. Good book. Enjoyed it.


That's why i call it al-ciada.


MI6 and Langley probably get their orders from Mossad.


One thing i should say about the movie, "The Road to Guantanamo", it tells the story from the moslem side. it is about three teenagers who return to Afghanistan through Pakistan(no direct flights in Afghanistan)to attend a wedding at the same time that american forces are invading and rounding up Taliban suspects. the story takes them through their arrest and time at Gizmo and their final release. Remember, these guys were teenagers when our government subjected them to the treatment reserved for all moslems at the camp.


Jake. America is just a tool of the NWO. Al quaeda takes orders from MI6 and the CIA. We created Al qaeda. There is no Al quaeda. Pat Tillman (Former pro ball player Cardinals) found out the hard way.


The only movie lately I would pay money to go see is "Live free or Die Hard" with Bruce Willis. I relate to Bruce. Cause I was just like him. When I first heard that Islamic terrorists had struck the towers, I said "Let's go kill those flag burning sons a bitches".
But after some videos, and cooler heads prevailed, I am now a 911 truther, and know that 911 was orchestrated by the Committee of 300 (East India trading Company)
We are all pawns in the game, and must now talk one on one as people.
"Loose Change" and "Terrorstorm". Double feature.


Al-CIADA thinks its tough for pulling off 9-11 and killing some 3200 americans.
HHMMPF--we got GeorgeBush and he has killed over 3500 americans to revenge ourselves on alciada's 3200.
This doesn't even count the maybe 100,000 iraqis that have paid dearly for their non-involvement with 9-11.
And now that the virginia farmers are back in afghanistan, the poppy crops are bigger than ever.
Thank God for those beautiful folks from the alphabet agencies, without their war on drugs, there wouldn't be any cheap heroin or cocaine for us.
Yep, it sure is the best of all possible worlds when america rules the world.(catchy slogan, maybe i should share it with the neo-con fascists?)


I love movies. And actors. Movies are stories, and make points, and entertain us. Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are awesome.
I like all kinds of movies. Then again, I am a lover of life. I like all kinds of stuff in general.


I wasn't trying to excuse them Jbrid. I was simply pointing out the ignorant level of denial. But your point is received. I just didn't see it till you said it. I am a little thick, sometimes.


"Cretin fascist scum sucking traitorous dogs" I like that!!!! Good one, bro. I love Maui. Loren Adams is my friend out there.


GAK---you seem to like movies alot, check out a new movie called "The Road to Guantanamo", very enlightening and a very human story, think you would really appreciate it.


To my new found forum friend GAK -- Noted.

But don't try and excuse ignorance with such an easy move because sure, that flat world stuff and the sun stuff -- but we now ALL know better than that don't we. I understand your point, and it is definitely a good one, but it doesn't excuse anything when it comes to people being a real SOB as regards the deaths of innocents // and that's what 9/11 translates to. No dark ages in that.

Ignorance is one thing but can be quite funny in some cases (not when it comes to 9/11 -- that's waaaay too serious, I feel). You want funny? Here's something --

The idiot that thinks he can fly by simply scotch-tapeing 100 pidgeons to himself and then jumping off a high building // that's funny. The death of thousands of innocents just doesn't equate to the same thing.


Conspiracy theory. What morons. I like the movie, "Conspiracy theory". Kinda had some weird truth in it. Maybe sometimes it takes people who are not quite "normal" to see the truth.


Truth is, no one knows for sure what is going to happen. Sure, the nwo cretin fascist scum-sucking traitorous dogs may have their plan for world conquest, but the Lord also has a plan in operation that will trump whatever anyone else is doing.
Satan, though monstruously more powerful than us humans, he is still a creature and subject to the will of the Creator; the devil is NOT self-existent, nor omniscient nor omnipotent as the Lord is. He can only do what God allows him to do, which seems to be to try the righteous and decieve and destroy the wicked.
Have some faith in your Creator, He really is in charge. Even though evil seems to be ascendent, that is part of the lying deception of evil, to trick us into believing the devil's lies instead of believing God's truths.

p.s. body surfing at Hapuna, on Kailua-Kona side was good but small. All the good breaks are on Oahu and Maui....


And another point is,
most of the 911 debunkers are the same salivating morons who conclude that the Bible was written by random men, and changed many times throughout the years. Lacking the dilligent study, of course.


Jbrid. When a lie is politically correct, and socially popular, there is almost no amount of logic or reason that will penetrate the ignorance. Case in point.

At on time, not too long ago, the majority 90%+ of the population believed the world was flat, and the sun revolved around it.


Been seein some Patrick Swayze lately. Won't be too long before they show "Roadhouse". Pretty good movie. Hey Alex, have you talked to Patrick about 911 truth yet? He and everyone needs to know. Course I know that they won't listen till they want too.


These following comments are only intended for the 9/11 debunkers out there in computerland that continue to treat the subject of 9/11 as some unimportant game of mental gymnastics -- for which I feel an urge to say this to you:
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To jump in and say something while you are getting your breath in order to ramble on more about how idiotic the truth movement is as regards 9/11 // I'd like to comment that you or anyone else that proudly claims your citizenship to the United States of America, either by birth or by passing some written test -- well, you seriously need to rethink where your loyalities and patriotic concerns truly rest. For it boils down to believe the official story of 9/11, ignoring all the questionable areas, and there are many, that have come into the public awareness since 9/11, says you are truly not a patriotic citizen at all, not of this land; your action (inaction in some cases) is nothing short of lending support to those criminals that truly did attack us on that day // now why in the world, why in the name of heaven would YOU put yourself on the same side of the argument as those criminals and continue to bash truth seekers who do nothing more than wish to see the truly guilty brought to justice. Can't you understand that the criminals are relying on your support, relying on your confused but loyal support as they themself continue to hide in plain sight. This continuous back and forth about things you honestly don't know (but believe you do, or at least feel a need to convince us you do) -- when you are no scientist -- when you don't have even one tiny clue as to the mechanics involved in carrying off a successful controlled demolition -- when you try and justify why the powers to be have not provided the many videos of the Pentagon attack (sure the WTC is entirely another matter, related yes, but sporatic video coverage on that site is understandable (but not so for the Pentagon)) -- when you fail to join your voice in demanding complete and honest answers as regards the obvious stand down of military fighter jet support and ground-to-air support for that particular day // those failures translate as yours alone and not something that can be proud of when reflecting on what the truth really is when it comes to understanding 9/11. Where is your patriotic pride in all of this? Where is your concern for the deaths of thousands of innocent people and their individual families?

These are only a few of many unanswered questions that persist where you too should be concerning yourself IF you are a true citizen of this wonderful country. Why join the criminals in continuing this lie? // Why do you choose not to join your voice in demanding a new and unbiased and complete investigation into the happenings of 9/11? You should truly be ashamed of yourself. But it's not too late to wake up and start thinking like a true American. Thanks for listening --

***Posted elsewhere in this forum in hopes of addressing a maximum level of 9/11 debunkers.


Back to fish. Fish generally swim in schools. But only in the ocean. Why is that? Maybe cause the ocean, is a much bigger, and much more dangerous and scary place. But in small lakes, the fish just mill about on their own, not really caring.
If I were a fish, I would much rather live in a small lake.
But I do love the turtles of Maui. And the Galopagos.
I wish I could just enjoy life, and not be tied to the NWO. But I will meet my responsibility head on, and finish the job.


Your friend is probably already formulating his denial strategy, as a defense mechanism. They will usually protect their physical prosperity, at all costs.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:45 am | #
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Well he is not really a friend, but you are right.
I have made some people really mad at me.
But I will spread the truth every chance I get.
And I will until the Lord calls me home.

Gotta go for now, duty calls.
Keep up the good fight, I respect all of you real truthers.


And the Masons, is really a recruiting ground for higher societies of evil. Like the Illuminati, and Skull & Bones.

The whole world is controlled as thus:
#1 SATAN
#2 The illuminati
#3 The Rothschild family
#4 The Committee of 300

Behind all the masks, whatever they are, is Satan, and his tares. Pecking order is not that relevant, in light of this.


Nerve hit.
The stuff that we know, you have to understand, is unbelievably shocking to the sheep. Your friend is probably already formulating his denial strategy, as a defense mechanism. They will usually protect their physical prosperity, at all costs.


Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:40 am
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I agree with you 110% Gabriel.
To be honest, it scares the shit out of me.
This "Masonic Government" is totally out of control.


Fish swim in schools. We should not. Cause we are better than that. I like fish though. They taste good, and are fun to catch.


I own my business and have a man that I do business with from time to time.
We were have a social drink the other day and the conversation came up about the Government.
To make a long story short, I gave him some videos including terror storm, loose change and The Illuminati.
He has yet to say anything to me about "His" " Good American Government" anymore.
Do you think I hit a nerve?


Anonymous. Unfortunately, you are dead right. And there is no way in hell we will make it past 2013 without all hell breaking loose. Multiple references. But I believe America will fall sooner, as we are probably the "great city" Babylon in Revelations.
Purple linen and scarlet (Red, white and blue)
Merchants of the earth rich (largest importer)
Mixture of all races
Controlled by Jesuits (Rome) mostly
Richest nation (highest standard of living)
Decieved the Earth with sorceries (Globo cop and CIA)

Just some observations. Nothing is concrete, in prophecy.


Jones said it right yesterday. We are at the very end. And that isn't a joke. We are witnessing the fall of America. We aren't counting the weeks anymore, we are counting the days. And you can take that, to the bank.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:30 am
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I will truly be surprised if America has another "real" election.
America has no "real" Government.
A Masonic dictatorship is in power.
God help us.


Anonymous. You noticed that too? See how they boogied when I gave them the Bible and Constitution challenge?
What a bunch of bullshit artists.


And so the misguided ones have fallen back into the shadows.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 6:26 am
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That is because they have no real argument, only lies and deception.


Jones said it right yesterday. We are at the very end. And that isn't a joke. We are witnessing the fall of America. We aren't counting the weeks anymore, we are counting the days. And you can take that, to the bank.


And so the misguided ones have fallen back into the shadows. Must be cause some children of light showed up, causing discomfort. These things happen. They always flee when outnumbered. That is how a pack of Heyena's works. Easy prey, they stay. Otherwise, tuck tail and cover it with a press release.

Got some Stephen Segal tonight. Gonna get a little "Brisk".


Notice how "surfing" and "suffering" are spelled almost the same?
Some people suffer for Jesus. Others surf for Jesus. Oh well, at least they both love Jesus. Just an off color observation.


How was your surfing the other day, Jake?


Yiddish. Blend your thoughts. You make sense, to you.
Notice you ducked and bailed when I asked you about the Bible, and the Constitution.
Wonder why that was?
Guess it's just another x-file.


Keep up the good news Jake.


Jesus is a COINTELPRO who is really a jesuit/Zionist pro adjuctor.

Just kidding. I don't even know what that shit is. I just hear it here all the time.


Hi Jake. I like Hawaii. That place actually heals me. I can get drunk as fuck, and still pop up at 6 am every day! I love Hawaii!!!!!!!


Jesus sends His peace on all who want His peace.
War is for those who want to kill.
It is clear who is who........


this board is more penetrated than a whore at closing time
jake | 06.20.07 - 6:02 am | #
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Yes jake it is.
Bunch of sorry ass spooks.
Aim for the head, the Bastards wear body armor.


this board is more penetrated than a whore at closing time


Jake Bruno
13256 King Kamehameha Hwy
Kealakekua, Hi


DR NWO.
You have never said anything real here, or revealed anything about yourself. You obviously have alot to hide.
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The dog breath is a spook.


I am currently watching Chevy Chase in the original "Vacation" on AMC. Funny movie! A real classic.


DR NWO.
You have never said anything real here, or revealed anything about yourself. You obviously have alot to hide.

Gabriel Alan King
635 N12th st. Apt#1
Spearfish SD 57783
Phone# 605-645-8705

Any other cowards care to do the same? Didn't think so.


Ha Ha Ha HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE
so what?
you aren't anybody in my life
you are just a typo


AAAAH God won't do his job!!!!

So WE WILL!!!!!!


But tonight, the bear will shit in the buckwheat.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:53 am | #
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Gabriel,
I love your heart Brother.
The truth shall set us free.


gabrielalankingkong.
That means a whole lot, coming from a coward who hides behind a pseudonym for a name. I laugh at you.


Anonymous. 5:50
Good advice. But I have a heart for conflict, and self deception. Sometimes I leave them alone. But tonight, the bear will shit in the buckwheat.


no one here acts like GOD
no one here talks like GOD
no one here has the compassion of GOD
there is only hate
in evidence here
no God


Our genetic engineering will make everyone brillant, beautiful, and well endowed.....like me.

Doesn't that sound great you tiny membered ones!!!!!!!!


fools and damned fools
hear how they prattle on
that jesus wants us all dead
that is why he gave us life....
no one here represents
GOD


DR NWO.
If you were truly the masters, you would have wrapped this whole thing up along time ago. Jesus has your number, son.


Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:46 am | #
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Gabriel,
Don't play into these losers hands Brother.
Let it go like water off a duck's back.


Do you love the Bible KJV Yiddish?
Do you love the Constitution? Yiddish?

These two questions will sink your entire "Ship of fools".
Unless you answer yes to both.


Resign yourselves to your hopeless fate!

We are the masters!

Always have been always will be!

We will mold the world into our image!

Into Gattaca and ultimately STAR TREK!

And there's nothing you can do about it!


murderous scum bags
one and all


Yiddish. Your brain won't make a damn bit of difference if your heart isn't in the right place.

Once again, you labeled me a "follower of Alex Jones". What a convenient diversion. I follow the word of God, Old and New Testament. Not that you would know anything about either in your dreamlike state of mental prowess.

You twist everything, and you are worse than a dumbass. Cause you damn well are aware of your trickery. Making you guilty. I profess openly that I believe in, and respect the Bible. And Christ. And the Constitution. What do you profess?

Your garbage is recognized.


@GAK, which truth movement was that?

The 9/11 Truth Movement?


Every human being has the basic right to live and be free and therefore every human being has the right to defend themselves, and to defend their individual right to freedom.


Good quote anonymous. 5:37


I entered the truth movement in 1989, at which time Alex was only 15 years old. As usual, your compass is all fucked up. But that's how you like it, anyway, isn't it?


"He who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."-Christ, Luke 22:36


@GAK

Is RHETORIC all you've got? You're quite amazing.. Stupid.. But amazing..


DR NWO. I hope for your sake, your joking. I don't think God will laugh. Do you think the murder of innocent people and children is funny?

Just a question, hot rod.


@GAK

"Yiddish. Your right. I blindly follow Alex and worship him. You are so fucking stupid."

Hey, I was just going on you attacking me for -daring- to question the patriot Alex Jones. A true patriot questions -everything- and more importantly -everybody-.

"I entered the truth movement when Alex was 15 years old. "

Riiight? That would mean 9/11 actually took place sometime in the 1980's.

"And if anyone is inciting violence, it's not Alex, it's me. You twist everything. That's your M.O. "

It's really as simple as this question : "If he asked you, would you take up arms for Alex Jones?" I never said he was violent. I'm sure Hitler was a kitten behind closed doors. But look at what he did by inciting millions of dumb, angry and "patriotic" Germans. (and for the sake of the lurking holocaust deniers, replace "Hitler" with "Pol Pot" and "Germans" with "Cambodians", ok? )

I never said he's inciting violence, but what I am saying is if his "followers" are as dumb as you, he may well be leading a violent movement one day. Tyranny = Ignorance + Faith and Patriotism. The reason BushCo gets away with what they do today is because an entire generation of Americans have stopped learning how to question Authority (in whatever guise it may take).

"You like to profess that you interpet rightly, and your goggles ain't foggy. I think your full of shit."

Well, I was, let's not forget, referring the whole time, to that one article on the front page. I may well be a good % of shit, but you are just a rambling ideologue, which makes you even even worse than full of shit - it makes you full of hot air.

"And I think you know it. You send alot of mixed messages. And you insult Militias. Which is foolish, and prideful. Who the hell are you, Spartacus?"

I insult militias!? Oh heaven forbid. Fuck you asshole, I'll insult whoever the fuck I want to. Fuck your militias. In your utopian society, is there no place for the population to "insult" militias? What kind of free society is that? I thought you are AGAINST Nazism and Socialism? WAKE UP. Is the Democracy you're trying to replace the current regime with any better than the one you've got? Face it, you're a closet Fascist.

"For whatever it's worth, I am happy to hear that you will fight against the Martial Law troops."

WHERE ARE YOU NOW? Martial Law is ALREADY in place. What the fuck are you waiting for?

"We need every man available who would seek to remain free."

Mahatma Ghand is ROLLING in his grave. No force of arms will make a skerrick of difference with this much ignorance in the world. The United States is -doomed- to repeat this ridiculous cycle over and over and over again, because people just like you all over the country think it's about who's got the bigger gun.

You know what GAK? That's fucking horseshit. The real power is about who's got the bigger brain. EDUCATE yourself, and your people.


It's nearly time to waste you human scum!!!
DR. NWO | 06.20.07 - 5:26 am | #
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Yea well, I will take two of them with me to the gates of Hell.


http://www.geocities.com/northst...zone/ index.html
Very informative web site.


Aim for the head. Yep.
We must enforce it. And enforce old justice on this entirely corrupted Freemason justice system. Let's take this country back. Braveheart.


We're gearin' up for ya rebel scum!

1) 911

2)Patriot Act

3)FEMA camps

And another major event is comin' soon to create the chaos we need to round you all up!!!!!
It's nearly time to waste you human scum!!!


Yiddish. I have decided to award you the coveted "triple think" award. First, you receive the information, and twist it. Then, you regurgitate it, contrary to reality. Then finally, you drown logic itself in a pseudo counterfeit logic, presenting the "Diebold" results as the truth.
Good job, Joker. Maybe by tomorrow, you can sell a refrigerator to an Eskimo, and prove that white is black to the middle class.
You should apply to Skull & Bones. I'm sure you'd get the job.


And any scum who would rape and murder children, or cover it up, deserves worse than death.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.20.07 - 5:16 am | #
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Amen to that Gabriel.


http://thumbsnap.com/v/YOa616TD.jpg
Your brave Police.
A mad man is killing 33 people and they draw their guns, their body armor is so thick that their shirts are tight, and hide behind a tree.
Cowards.


Theodora Weaver.
They know, and we know, that there is no Law to enforce the collection of income taxes. That's part of what this standoff is about. I refuse to pay taxes even if they do create a law for it. Cause I refuse to "feed the Beast" and support the Satanists and their agenda. I will however, use the tax money that I would have gave them, to kill them, happily. This is my land. And I will kill to prove it. I respect and serve God. And any scum who would rape and murder children, or cover it up, deserves worse than death.


Yiddish. Your right. I blindly follow Alex and worship him. You are so fucking stupid.
I entered the truth movement when Alex was 15 years old.
And if anyone is inciting violence, it's not Alex, it's me.
You twist everything. That's your M.O.

You like to profess that you interpet rightly, and your goggles ain't foggy. I think your full of shit. And I think you know it. You send alot of mixed messages. And you insult Militias. Which is foolish, and prideful. Who the hell are you, Spartacus?

For whatever it's worth, I am happy to hear that you will fight against the Martial Law troops. We need every man available who would seek to remain free.


Oil up your scrollin' finger readers... Freddy has about ten top posts on this page... Scroll down thru the spam for Freddy Fatt and all the gang from http://www.dockersunion.com .


Please do not kill the Browns. Perhaps someone out there will be able to find out if there is or is not a law. If there is a law, then prove it to the people, but for heaven's sake, this does not call for an all-out war. NO, and I mean, NO amount of money is worth a life. If the Browns refuse to come out of their home, then have a court trial with all the high-tech stuff, from their home to the courts. Put it on national TV. Not so difficult now, is it? I remember reading something once that mentioned that there is no law that say you have to have a social security card. Whether it's true, I don't knowl. But, please reconsider before any action be taken that would harm anyone.


FEMA's detention camps
From Lisa S.:
http://markcrispinmiller.blogspo...tion- camps.html
Mark:

I first heard about this on INN World Report (Free Speech TV), February 7 broadcast: http://www.innworldreport.net/#

The report stated there are 800 detention camps throughout the US, staffed, ready for operation, guarded by armed guards, but presently empty. The "official story" is, under the auspices of Homeland Security, FEMA is maintaining these facilities in the "event of a mass influx of illegal immigrants or in case of national emergency". National emergency however is undefined. I did some research on the 'net and came up with many hits on the search terms "FEMA camps". Some hits seemed to be a little nefarious, but there seems to be plenty of discussion at sites frequented by rational critical thinkers.

Quite frankly, this is deeply troubling to me - I have a keen interest in history, with a particular leaning to WWII and the history of Nazi party. I am not buying the official story, especially since there is no definition of what is considered to be a national emergency.

Have you come across any of this and if so, what do you think? If you haven't, I've provided some links that seem to be legit.
Here is an article about the new detention camp contract given to Halliburton:

Pacific News Service > News > Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

And here is one on the already existing camps from a libertarian website:

Friends of Liberty - FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders

Foundations are in place for martial law in the US - smh.com.au

Discussion thread from a UK site:
War Without End :: View topic - Is Cheney's Neocon cabal bringing concentration camps?
Article & Discussion at Democrats.com

http://www.democrats.com/node/7681

Article & Discussion on Democratic Underground:

NYT: KBR -$385 million for building temporary US detention centers


@GAK

"Yiddish. What you SEE in words, is not what others see."

This is why I choose to READ them.

Comprehension comes from literacy. Distortion comes from people like you who twist people's words. It's rich that you are somehow trying to use this argument to say I'm spinning the truth, when it's the complete opposite - I'm demanding accuracy instead of spin.

You're now seemingly trying to argue that words are meaningless, and that people all see different meanings in them, but somehow your perception is more 'true' and by arguing that people should take words at face value, -I- am the one distorting the truth? I don't know what you're smoking, but it's impressive shit..

(this kind of thinking makes CNN or Fox look like a paragon of journalistic integrity - which is pretty damn funny).

" Thus the "communication breakdown" spoke of by Zeppelin. Like I said, just see what you want to see. "

I have a kettle here you might want to call black, pot.

"I see wherein lies our disagreement now. You are going to be sorely surprised when they role in the UN tanks under martial law soon. But I suppose you will just continue to "rationalize" the situation, as to fluff the comfy pillow of your safety. "

You ARE Alex Jones! Alex Jones with poor grammar!

You might even go willingly to the "freedom camp", believing that they will take care of you.
Well, they are gonna "take care of you" alright.

You can be goddamned sure that I won't go to one of those camps. And when the resistance fights back and takes down the NWO, I also won't be signing up for no insane Mad-Max lunatic militia lead by some demagogue like AJ, who has an army of stupid mindless zombies armed to the teeth, fighting for his "cause". The enemy is stupidity, and power. You have the choice of putting your power in someone else's hands, or keeping it yourself. That is freedom, that is liberty. Giving it all to someone else (Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton OR Alex Jones) is just different sides of the same shit bucket.

If you want to be free then treasure your OWN mind, and stop taking orders from people who claim to know the truth. FIND the truth yourself.

"While you quibble, they are finishing the final details of their master plan. And if you still choose to think that Moore is on the fence, then you have yourself clusterfucked in excessive unnecessary false intellectualism. "

No, actually, I'm fairly sure about this one. But then again, niether you or I actually know the truth. Without an on-record statement from Moore himself validating what you said, it's all just propaganda.

"Which the foreign troops will humor themselves with, as they rape you, your children, and your wife."

Oh because American troops are totally fucking above torture rape and pillaging. I don't care if they work for the NWO, they're AMERICAN citizens buddy, cut from the same cloth of ignorance, hatred, and zealous insanity that you were.


Smart Laser Scanner for Human-Computer Interface

Alvaro Cassinelli, Stephane Perrin & Masatoshi Ishikawa
http://www.k2.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/fu...ActiveTracking/

Research description
The problem. Input of information is becoming a challenging task as portable electronic devices become smaller and smaller. Alternatives to the keyboard/mouse are necessary on handheld computers; for instance, on personal digital assistants (PDAs), input of text data is often done through a touch sensitive screen and a stylus using a prescribed input method, such as Graffitti™. The input space is thus merged with the viewing space, allowing a substantial saving of physical space. The next logical step would be to remove the need for any (dedicated or merged) input space, as well as the need for any additional input device (stylus, data-gloves, etc). This would allow inputting data by just executing bare-handed gestures in front of a portable device - that could then be embodied in a keyboardless wrist-watch. Ultimately, coupling such interface with a projective display (e.g. an eyeglass-mounted display or even a laser-based display) capable of creating an arbitrary large virtual space would completely remove the need of any real interaction area (for viewing or inputting data), allowing further downsizing of mobile computing devices (see figure).

Our approach. The problem of tracking hands and fingers on natural scenes has received much attention using passive acquisition vision systems and computationally intense image processing. We are currently studying a simple active tracking system using a laser diode (visible or invisible light), steering mirrors, and a single non-imaging photodetector, which is capable of acquiring three dimensional coordinates in real time without the need of any image processing at all. Essentially, it is a smart rangefinder scanner that instead of continuously scanning over the full field of view, restricts its scanning area, on the basis of a real-time analysis of the backscattered signal, to a very narrow window precisely the size of the target.

The proposed active-tracking mechanism has some appealing features over other conventional (passive or active) tracking systems:
Few constraints on the user/environment. The interface frees the user for adopting a special input posture; it does not require the user to carry any special device (such as active transceivers or reflective optical markers); it does not require any special projection area (other than the hand/finger itself); it is an active-illumination system, so it does not imposes stringent illumination conditions.
Real-time, full 3D acquisition. Although depth estimation of distant targets may be difficult (full 3D measurement may be limited to about 160 cm in our present configuration), tracking and three-dimensional data acquisition is achieved without the need for a stereoscopic camera - in fact, no imaging device is needed at all. For tracking distant targets, more sophisticated telemetric techniques could be readily adopted in the system (i.e. time of flight measurement).
System on-chip integration. Hardware simplicity is such that, using state-of-the-art Micro-Opto-Electro-Mechanical-System (MOEMS) technology, it should be possible to integrate the whole system on a single chip, making a versatile human-machine gestural input interface for use in mobile computing devices.


Read the Chilling Proposition from Teper et.
HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions

http:// www.theforbiddenknowledge..._guillotine.htm
SECTION 1.
1- 8 The General Assembly finds that while prisoners condemned to
1- 9 death may wish to donate one or more of their organs for
1-10 transplant, any such desire is thwarted by the fact that
1-11 electrocution makes all such organs unsuitable for
1-12 transplant. The intent of the General Assembly in enacting
1-13 this legislation is to provide for a method of execution
1-14 which is compatible with the donation of organs by a
1-15 condemned prisoner.
SECTION 2.
1-16 Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official Code of
1-17 Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty generally,
1-18 is amended by striking in its entirety Code Section
1-19 17-10-38, relating to death sentences generally, and
1-20 inserting in lieu thereof the following:
1-21 "17-10-38. (Index)
1-22 (a) All persons who have been convicted of a capital
1-23 offense and have had imposed upon them a sentence of death
1-24 shall, at the election of the condemned, suffer such
1-25 punishment either by electrocution or by guillotine. If
1-26 the condemned fails to make an election by the thirtieth
1-27 day preceding the date scheduled for execution, punishment
1-28 shall be by electrocution.
1-29 (b) In all cases in which the defendant is sentenced to be
1-30 electrocuted executed, it shall be the duty of the trial
1-31 judge in passing sentence to direct that the defendant be LC 21 3643
2- 1 delivered to the Department of Corrections for
2- 2 electrocution execution at a state correctional
2- 3 institution designated by the department."
2- 4 Said article is further amended by striking in its entirety
2- 5 Code Section 17-10-44, relating to death chamber apparatus
2- 6 and related matters, and inserting in lieu thereof the
2- 7 following:
2- 8 "17-10-44. (Index)
2- 9 The Department of Corrections shall provide a death
2-10 chamber and all necessary apparatus, machinery, and
2-11 appliances for inflicting the penalty of death by
2-12 electrocution or by guillotine."


Katherine Schweitzer was a Hungarian Jewish lady from Budapest, her whole family was arrested in 1944 by a Jew member of Horsha, the Hungarian thug police, and deported to Auschwitz. Only she survived that place and said on TV, that the Jew who arrested her was living a few doors up on the same street in Sydney.

Her body was discovered in a wheelie bin 28 December 2006 she was last seen alive 22 Dec. Most likely she was murdered by hostile elements in reprisal for telling the truth, after I had published the above story on November 30 2006, concerned her testimony would encourage other survivors of the so called Holocaust to do the same. And to warn any other Jews who want the truth to come out just what the consequences will be. Maybe Fritz-Harry Cremer is a Mossad agent and perhaps he talked his way into her apartment and murdered her.

It would be a perfect way for Jewish community to demonstrate it’s readiness to cooperate with broader society, by assisting in achieving a prosecution re this matter. Israeli sources should have information on of Fritz-Harry Cremer for instance.


Some people think that there are a few "bumps" in the road of life, but everything will work itself out in the end.
These are the same dumb assholes that will take a chip, or wake up in a freedom camp wondering "how did I get here?"

If they had a fucking clue what was really going on in their government, then they would know the answer to that question. Day late, dollar short.


(A) A BRIEF HISTORICAL SKETCH OF THE ORIGINS OF EMERGENCY POWERS NOW IN FORCE

A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency. The problem of how a constitutional democracy reacts to great crises, however, far antedates the Great Depression. As a philosophical issue, its origins reach back to the Greek city-states and the Roman Republic. And, in the United States, actions taken by the Government in times of great crises have-from, at least, the Civil War-in important ways, shaped the present phenomenon of a permanent state of national emergency.
American political theory of emergency government was derived and enlarged from John Locke, the English political-philosopher whose thought influenced the authors of the Constitution. Locke argued that the threat of national crisis-unforeseen, sudden, and potentially catastrophic-required the creation of broad executive emergency powers to be exercised by the Chief Executive in situations where the legislative authority had not provided a means or procedure of remedy. Referring to emergency power in the 14th chapter of his Second Treatise on Civil Government as "prerogative," Locke suggested that it:
...should be left to the discretion of him that has the executive power...since in some governments the lawmaking power is not always in being and is usually too numerous, and so too slow for the dispatch requisite to executions, and because, also it is impossible to foresee and so by laws to provide for all accidents and necessities that may concern the public, or make such laws as will do no harm, if they are executed with an inflexible rigour on all occasions and upon all persons that may come in their way, therefore there is a latitude left to the executive power to do many things of choice; which the laws do not prescribe.

To what extent the Founding Fathers adhered to this view of the executive role in emergencies is a much disputed issue. Whatever their conceptions of this role, its development in practice has been based largely on the manner in which individual President's have viewed their office and its functions. Presidents Theodore Roosevelt and William Howard Taft argued the proper role of the President and, perhaps, their debate best expounds diametrically-opposed philosophies of the presidency. In his autobiography, Roosevelt asserted his "stewardship theory."
My view was that every Executive officer...was a steward of the people bound actively and affirmatively to do all he could for the people and not to content himself with the negative merit of keeping his talents undamaged in a napkin...My belief was that it was not only [the President's] right but his duty to do anything that the needs of the Nation demanded unless such action was forbidden by the Constitution or by the laws. Under this interpretation of executive power I did and caused to be done many things not previously done by the President and the heads of departments. I did not usurp power but I did greatly broaden the use of executive power. In other words, I acted for the common well being of all our people whenever and whatever measure was necessary, unless prevented by direct constitutional or legislative prohibition.

Roosevelt compared this principle of "stewardship" to what he called the Jackson-Lincoln theory, and contrasted it to the theory ascribed to William Howard Taft.

Roosevelt's ideas on the limit of presidential authority and responsibility were vigorously disputed by Taft. In lectures on the presidency--delivered at Columbia University in 1915-1916-Taft responded that: "... the wide field of action that this would give to the Executive one can hardly limit. A President can exercise no power which cannot fairly and reasonably be traced to some specific grant of power." And he cautioned that: "... such specific grants must be either in the Federal Constitution, or in any act of Congress passed in pursuance thereof. There is no undefined residuum of power which he can exercise because it seems to him to be in the public interest."

In recent years, most scholars have interpreted the Roosevelt-Taft dispute in Roosevelt's favor. In the prevailing academic view, Roosevelt is described as "active," "expansionist," and "strong." The historical reality, in fact, does not afford such a sharp distinction either between the actions of these two Presidents, or between their analysis of the problem of emergency powers. Taft, in his concluding remarks to his Columbia lectures, said : "Executive power is limited, so far as it is possible to limit such a power consistent -with that discretion and promptness of action that are essential to preserve the interests of the public in times of emergency or legislative neglect or inaction." Thus, even Taft was disposed to employ emergency power when the need arose, but, he did not wish to go beyond his own narrower, conservative conception of what was meant by constitutional and legal bounds. Thus, the dispute was over where those bounds lay, rather than the nature of the office itself.

Taft's successor, Woodrow Wilson, was no less zealous in observing what he thought the Constitution demanded. Faced with the exigencies of World War I, Wilson found it necessary to expand executive emergency powers enormously. In many respects, this expansion ofpowers in wartime was based on precedents set by Lincoln decades earlier. Unlike Lincoln, however, Wilson relied heavily on Congress for official delegations of authority no matter how broadly these might be.

Wilson's exercise of power in the First World War provided a model for future Presidents and their advisors. During the preparedeness period of 1915-1916, the submarine crisis in the opening months of 1917, and the period of direct involvement of U.S. armed forces from April 1917 to November 1918, Wilson utilized powers as sweeping as Lincoln's. Because governmental agencies were more highly organized and their jurisdictions wider, presidential powers were considerably more effective than ever before. Yet, perhaps, because of Wilson's scrupulous attention to obtaining prior congressional concurrence, there was only one significant congressional challenge to Wilson's wartime measures.

That challenge came in February-March 1917, following the severance of diplomatic relations with Germany. A group of Senators successfully filibustered a bill authorizing the arming of American merchant ships. In response--records American historian Frank Freidel in his book Roosevelt: the Apprenticeship-Assistant Secretary of the Navy Franklin D. Roosevelt found an old statute under which the President could proceed without fresh authorization from Congress. Roosevelt, impatient for action, was irritated because Wilson waited a few days before implementing the statute.

Lincoln had drawn most heavily upon his power as Commander-in-Chief; Wilson exercised emergency power on the basis of old statutes and sweeping new legislation--thus drawing on congressional delegation as a source of authority: The most significant Wilsonian innovations were economic, including a wide array of defense and war agencies, modeled to some extent upon British wartime precedents. In August 1916 just prior to the United States entry into the war, Congress at Wilson's behest established a Council of National Defense-primarily advisory. In 1917, a War Industries Board, also relatively weak, began operating. The ineffectiveness of the economic mobilization led Republicans in Congress-in the winter of 1917-1918 to demand a coalition War Cabinet similar to that in England. Wilson forestalled Congress by proposing legislation delegating him almost total economic power and, even before legislative approval, authorized the War Industries Board to exercise extensive powers. Subsequently Congress enacted Wilson's measure, the Overman Act, in April 1918. Other legislation extended the economic authority of the Government in numerous directions.

Following the allied victory, Wilson relinquished his wartime authority and asked Congress to repeal the emergency statutes, enacted to fight more effectively the war. Only a food-control measure and the 1917 Trading With the Enemy Act were retained. This procedure of terminating emergency powers when the particular emergency itself has, in fact, ended has not been consistently followed by his successors.


93d Congress
SENATE
Report No. 93-549
1st Session
http://www.freedomsite.net/93-549.htm
EMERGENCY POWERS STATUTES:
PROVISIONS OF FEDERAL LAW NOW IN EFFECT DELEGATING TO THE EXECUTIVE EXTRAORDINARY AUTHORITY IN TIME OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY REPORT OF THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON THE TERMINATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY UNITED STATES SENATE NOVEMBER 19, 1973
U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON : 1973
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SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON THE TERMINATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY
FRANK CHURCH, Idaho Co-Chairman
PHILIP A. HART, Michigan
CLAIBORNE PELL, Rhode Island
ADLAI E. STEVENSON III, Illinois CHARLES McC MATHIAS, Jr., Maryland
CLIFFORD P. CASE, New Jersey
JAMES B. PEARSON, Kansas
CLIFFORD P. HANSEN, Wyoming
WILLIAM G. MILLER, Staff Director
THOMAS A. DINE, Professional Staff
FOREWORD
Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. In fact, there are now in effect four presidentially-proclaimed states of national emergency: In addition to the national emergency declared by President Roosevelt in 1933, there are also the national emergency proclaimed by President Truman on December 16, 1950, during the Korean conflict, and the states of national emergency declared by President Nixon on March 23, 1970, and August 15, 1971.
These proclamations give force to 470 provisions of Federal law. These hundreds of statutes delegate to the President extraordinary powers, ordinarily exercised by the Congress, which affect the lives of American citizens in a host of all-encompassing manners. This vast range of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule the country without reference to normal Constitutional processes.
Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens.
With the melting of the cold war--the developing detente with the Soviet Union and China, the stable truce of over 20 years duration between North and South Korea, and the end of U.S. involvement in the war in Indochina--there is no present need for the United States Government to continue to function under emergency conditions.
The Special Committee on the Termination of the National Emergency was created (1) to examine the consequences of terminating the declared states of national emergency that now prevail; to recommend what steps the Congress should take to ensure that the termination can be accomplished without adverse effect upon the necessary tasks of governing; and, also, to recommend ways in which the United States can meet future emergency situations with speed and effectiveness but without relinquishment of congressional oversight and control.
In accordance with this mandate, the Special Committee-- in conjunction with the Executive branch, expert constitutional authorities, as well as former high officials of this Government-- is now engaged in a detailed study to determine the most reasonable ways to restore normalcy to the operations of our Government.
A first and necessary step was to bring together the body of statutes, which have been passed by Congress, conferring extraordinary powers upon the Executive branch in times of national emergency.
This has been a most difficult task. Nowhere in the Government, in either the Executive or Legislative branches, did there exist a complete catalog of all emergency statutes. Many were aware that there had been a delegation of an enormous amount of power but, of how much power, no one knew. In order to correct this situation, the Special Committee staff was instructed to work with the Executive branch, the Library of Congress, and knowledgeable legal authorities to compile an authoritative list of delegated emergency powers.
This Special Committee study, which contains a list of all provisions of Federal law, except the most trivial, conferring extraordinary powers in time of national emergency, was compiled by the staff under the direction of Staff Director William G. Miller, and Mr. Thomas A. Dine; utilizing the help of the General Accounting Office, the American Law Division of the Library of Congress, the Department of Justice, the Department of Defense, and the Office of Emergency Planning.
The Special Committee is grateful for the assistance provided by Jack. Goldklang of the Office of Legal Counsel, Department of Justice; Lester S. Jayson, the director of the Congressional Research Service of the Library of Congress; Joseph E. Ross, head of the American Law Division of CRS; and especially Raymond Celada of the American Law Division and his able assistants, Charles V. Dale and Grover S. Williams; Paul Armstrong of the General Accounting Office; Linda Lee, Patrick Norton, Roland Moore, William K. Sawyer, Audrey Hatry, Martha Mecham, and David J. Kyte.
The Special Committee will also publish a list of Executive Orders, issued pursuant to statutes brought into force by declared states of emergency, at a later date.
CHARLES McC. MATHIAS, JR.
FRANK CHURCH,
Co-Chairmen.
Note 1: S. Res. 9, 93d Cong., 1st Sess.

EMERGENCY POWERS STATUTES:
PROVISIONS OF FEDERAL LAW NOW IN EFFECT DELEGATING TO THE EXECUTIVE EXTRAORDINARY AUTHORITY IN TIME OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY
November 19, 1973.-Ordered to be printed
Mr. MATHIAS (for Mr. CHURCH) as co-chairman of the Special Committee on the Termination of the National Emergency, submitted the following
REPORT
[Pursuant to S. Res. 9, 93d Cong.]
INTRODUCTION
(A) A BRIEF HISTORICAL SKETCH OF THE ORIGINS OF EMERGENCY POWERS NOW IN FORCE


State-By-State Index Of Potential
US Concentration Camps
CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERICA
From http://gulagamerika.homestead.com
Revised September 18, 2001
11-26-1
http://www.rense.com/general17/ s...tatebystate.htm
The following list is not complete, in spite of the extensive research put into it, and the attempts to verify the information that was available. These sites are alleged to exist, and certain considerations had to be taken in order to make this list:

Many locations were verified by William Pabst's research and testimony of Provost Marshal, US 5th Army HQ, Pentagon; and Mr. Fennerin, 300th Army MP - POW Command, Livonia Mich.

Some locations are not verifiable due to restricted access; these are believed to exist by virtue of their locality (e.g.: military reservation);

Other locations were established by numerous citations from multiple sources; locations were verified by physical reconnaissance and photographic evidence, some locations were verified by personal testimony from dependable, trustworthy authorities, or were visited by means not known to the author or the primary source but established through independent testimonies.

Some sites are listed by virtue of their status as a WWII internment camp or present-day penal facility and do not necessarily resemble a "concentration camp" to the casual observer. Old WWII sites are on the list because they are still designated by the Internal Security Act of 1950, which was never repealed.

Some internment sites are not developed beyond a rudimentary fence-and-barbwire enclosure due to the fact that many such concentration camps will be further developed using inmate labor. An enclosure used to hold 500 will become the foundation for the construction of additional enclosures holding thousands.

!! NOTE: There are certain controversial sites that have been cited, refuted, and confirmed again. They are included here for academic purposes only. Certain individuals have been able to get a "guided tour" of such a facility, the Amtrak rail yards just outside Indianapolis complete with an explanation of its' planned purpose. These individuals took hidden video of the facility which was seen by this author, a former railroad employee. For this reason it is included, until at such time that hard evidence moves it to the hoax page.

If you wish to assist GulagAmerika in verifying and refuting detention camp locations, please visit our Research Group at Yahoo.

ALABAMA Opelika - WWII German/Italian camp - may be renovated. Aliceville - WWII German POW camp - capacity 15,000 Ft. McClellan (Anniston) - Opposite side of town from Army Depot; Maxwell AFB (Montgomery) - Civilian prison camp established under Operation Garden Plot, currently operating with support staff and small inmate population. Talladega - Federal prison "satellite" camp.

ALASKA Wilderness - East of Anchorage. No roads, Air & Railroad access only. Estimated capacity of 500,000 Elmendorf AFB - Northeast area of Anchorage - far end of base. Garden Plot facility. Eielson AFB - Southeast of Fairbanks. Operation Garden Plot facility. Ft. Wainwright - East of Fairbanks

ARIZONA Ft. Huachuca - 20 miles from Mexican border, 30 miles from Nogales. Rex '84 facility. Pinal County - on the Gila River - WWII Japanese detention camp. May be renovated. Yuma County - Colorado River - Site of former Japanese detention camp (near proving grounds). This site was completely removed in 1990 according to some reports. Phoenix - Federal Prison Satellite Camp. Main federal facility expanded. Florence - WWII prison camp NOW RENOVATED, OPERATIONAL with staff & 400 prisoners, operational capacity of 3,500. Wickenburg - Airport is ready for conversion; total capacity unknown. Davis-Monthan AFB (Tucson) - Fully staffed and presently holding prisoners!! Sedona - site of possible UN base.


Chapter 5: PREPARING TO TAKE PRISONERS
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ p...ca26feb07.shtml
The Army has over 350 separate record centers containing substantial information on civilian political activities.

Virtually every major army unit has its own set aside from this. The Fifth Army of San Antonio has over 100,000 files of its own. The overall operation command post is a domestic room at the Pentagon. There are 25 million card on individuals and 760,000 on organizations held by the Defense Central Index of investigations alone. And this information includes political, sociological, economic and psychological profiles. All this type of information on 25 million Americans.

Since 1970 local county and state police forces all over the country have undertaken crash programs to install various kinds of computerized information systems. A large portion of this is being paid for by the Law Enforcement Assistance Administration. Beginning in 1970, Congress and the Joint Chiefs of Staff ordered the destruction of all these data banks, but they were not destroyed. All the outlawed collection is now located at Mt. Weathey, Clark County, West Virginia and similar Pentagon facilities designed as adjuncts to the president's emergency powers under the Executive Orders.

The cadre of specialized persons to enforce this plan are found in the U.S. Army Reserves Military Police POW Command at Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Fenren (phonetic spelling) of the 300th Military Police POW Command at Livonia told me, when I called him from the Federal Information Center at Houston, that the camps in the Command were for foreign prisoners of war and for"enemies of the United States". I asked him if enemies of the United States included U.S. citizens. He became angry, wouldn't deny it and referred me to a very sinister individual at the Army Reserve facility here at Houston who I talked to; who explained to me that the prisoners were called "inventory" and "internees". He would not deny that the camps were for U.S. citizens.

I called the Pentagon, spoke with the defendant there, and then with the provost marshal for the Fifth Army, and do you know what? Not one of these persons would deny that the system was for U.S. citizens. The provost marshal for the Fifth Army, when I mentioned the names of all the camp sites, said; "Well at least you've got that right."

The names of the detention facilities that I gave him were a list that I had acquired from the 'Ozark Sunbeam'. That list of names was the same list of facilities designated under the old Detention Act of 1950 as "emergency detention centers". But there is only one problem: That act was supposed to have been repealed in 1971. After some research, I found out what the problem was. One Congressman, when the hearings were held for the repeal of the Emergency Detention Act, mentioned that there are 17 other bits of law that provided for the same thing. So it didn't matter whether they ever repealed the Emergency Detention Act. The public was in fact tricked by the Congress of the United States!

Here are the designated sites: Tucked away in the Appalachian Mountains of central Pennsylvania is a bustling town of approx. 10,000 people. Fifteen to twenty years ago it was a sleepy village of 400. Allanwood, Pennsylvania is linked to New York City by Interstate U.S. 80. It takes up approximately 400 acres and is surrounded by a 10-foot barbed-wire fence. It now holds approximately 300 minimum security prisoners to keep it in shape. It could hold 12,000 people from one day to the next.

Thirty miles from Oklahoma City on U.S. 66 is El Reno, Oklahoma with an approximate population of 12,000. Due west, 6 miles from tow, almost in sight of U.S. 66 is a complex of buildings which could pass for a small school. However, the facility is overshadowed by a guard house which appears to be something like airport control tower, except that it's manned by a vigilant, uniformed guard. This is a federal prison camp or detention center. These camps are all located near super-highways or near railroad tracks or both.

The federal prison camp at Florence, Arizona could hold 3,500 prisoners. It is presently kept in condition by approximately 400 legally convicted prisoners. Wickenberg, Arizona is famous for its municipal airport, which was once government-owned. It is now occupied by a private party. It is rumored to be capable of being taken back by the federal government without notice.

Now there are a couple other of these facilities which probably exist under the same arrangements. This particular rumor has existed for about 9 or 10 years. The only way it can actually be established is by looking at the local contract for the Wickenberg Municipal Airport itself and the parties that have possession of it.

As I mentioned previously, these names were ratified by the provost marshal of the Fifth Army who is in charge of the 300th Military Police POW Command. He is the one who verified them. He said, as I mentioned before, "Well at least you've got that right."

Some of the locations are: Tool Lake in California, now in private hands. It can be retaken without notice. Mill Point, West Virginia. I couldn't find a thing on Mill Point, but in that area we have all kinds of prisons; Alderson, W.V., a women's federal reformatory; Lewisburg, W.V., a federal prison; Greenville, S.C. in Greenville County is now occupied by the State Youthful Offenders Division. Even that is a mystery to the people of that area.

At Montgomery, Alabama we have a federal civilian prison camp at Maxwell Air Force Base. Now does that sound right? There's one at Tucson, Arizona, David Munson Air Base. In Alaska we have Elmendorf at Eielson Air Force Base.

And that brings us to a facility in Florida called Avon Park, Florida. I sent a representative to see what was there. He found the Avon Park Bombing and Gunnery Range, which is also listed as the Avon Park Correctional Institute. No one is permitted entrance and probably there is no over flight permitted because it is a bombing and gunnery range. This was one of the places ratified by the provost marshal of the Fifth Army.

In 1976, as well as on March 20, 1979, I went to the Sheriff's Department in Houston to see if our local Sheriff had been infiltrated by these plans. Well, it appears so. I was put in contact with a Lt. Kiljan (phonetic spelling) who is in charge of some secret unit in the department. I asked him if be had participated in military training or in training with military personnel here in the Sheriff's Department. He denied it, and when I asked him if be would testify so under oath he became angry and stated, "You are just an ordinary citizen. I don't have to tell you anything." I later discovered that Lt. Kiljan is the ex-director of the Houston branch office of the U.S. Secret Service. Now where does his money come from? The area is administered by the Houston- Galveston Area Council.

In this regional government plan, each federal region is divided into state clearinghouses, and each state clearinghouse is divided into area clearinghouses. And for our area we have the Houston- Galveston Area Council. It serves as a conduit for federal funds in two major areas: L.E.A.A. and H.E.W.

Most everybody thinks this organization (the Houston-Galveston area Council) is for the development of the area; the geographical area here in Houston. It is not. It is for the development of L.E.A.A. and H.E.W. projects. Now this finds its counterpart in every community across the U.S. It provides for these agencies a liaison for intergovernmental communications, interaction and coordination.

William Pabst

__________________________________________________ _______________


William Pabst Report Warns of Pentagon Complicity
in NWO Takeover of America
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ p...ca26feb07.shtml
By William Pabst
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ p...ca26feb07.shtml
February 26, 2007

William Pabst Report Warns of Pentagon Complicity in NWO Takeover of America (Feb. 26, 2007)

Forward courtesy of Pam Schuffert

Excerpt from William Pabst Report exposing martial law plans and concentration camps

Throughout my ten years of intense research across this nation and in various locations throughout the world, I have become aware of many serious revelations. A MAJOR revelation was to understand clearly that this nation and her citizens have been fully betrayed into the NWO AGENDA from the highest levels of the WHITE HOUSE and PENTAGON on down.

In fact, there is not a NWO military black op going on across this nation regarding preparation for a NWO MARTIAL LAW MILTARY TAKEOVER, that the Pentagon is not aware of fully and is a part of in varying capacities. The Pentagon houses many offices of various military and intelligence operations, all fully tied in with the US MILITARY and intelligence, and as such are FULLY COMPLICIT in everything from the planning of OKC bombing, to 9/11, to the civilain concentration camp agenda being quietly put into place by the US military, Homeland Security, and FEMA.

That is simply the nature of the huge military complex called the Pentagon. While I know for a fact that there are people of sincere character and nature who indeed have worked there and continue to so do, this cannot cancel out the hard core reality of what the Pentagon is implementing regarding the future military takeover of the USA under martial law. Nor does it forgive the involvement of high level military brass in the Pentagon, sympathitic to the NWO agenda, who fully cooperated with the terror of "9/11", the Oklahoma City bombing, WACO, and many other militarily-backed black ops for a NWO hidden agenda.

Anyone who attempt to deny this reality about what the Pentagon houses is planting DISINFORMATION for a hidden agenda.

Either way, with the large amount of damning evidence linking the Pentagon with the NEW WORLD ORDER agenda, a definite military takeover agenda, involving both the US and the UN/NATO military forces cooperating together, there is no rational excuse to dismiss the Pentagon's complicity in these dark operations and the future takeover of America.

I had a phone discussion with a radio evangelist exposing the NEW WORLD ORDER and martial law. He admitted to me that he received an official looking manilla envelope packet from Washington DC one day. It's return address was the PENTAGON.

Inside there was a complete transcript of one of his radio broadcasts exposing the NWO and the martial law plans! It also inlcuded a terse letter, brief and to the point: : "This is just to let you know that we are monitoring every radio broadcast you put out" -from Pentagon Intelligence"

He was shocked and unnerved, but bravely continued to broadcast on the radio.

Read the following excerpt from Willaim Pabst who exposed the US concentration camp agenda, the martial law takeover of American and the Pentagon's role in that treason.

.-Pamela Schuffert

From Ken Adachi:

**Pan Schuffert to be interviewed on The American Radio network with Dr. Gianni Hayes on Wednesday, Feb. 28, 2007 at 8 PM Pacific time. Go to theis link and follw directions to hear the show: http://network.theamericanvoice....om/ schedule.htm


Yiddish. What you SEE in words, is not what others see. Thus the "communication breakdown" spoke of by Zeppelin. Like I said, just see what you want to see.

DR NWO. In all DUE respect, fuck you and your whole family in the neck.


I see wherein lies our disagreement now. You are going to be sorely surprised when they role in the UN tanks under martial law soon. But I suppose you will just continue to "rationalize" the situation, as to fluff the comfy pillow of your safety.
You might even go willingly to the "freedom camp", believing that they will take care of you.
Well, they are gonna "take care of you" alright.

While you quibble, they are finishing the final details of their master plan. And if you still choose to think that Moore is on the fence, then you have yourself clusterfucked in excessive unnecessary false intellectualism.

Which the foreign troops will humor themselves with, as they rape you, your children, and your wife.


We funded the Illegal Immigrant demonstrations!

Now we're gonna shove the NAU down your throats!


@GAK
"Dude. We don't need Moore. But the fact is, the things he said basically scream inside job. If you can't see that, then you have "selective vision"."

The fact that you can't see the sheer hypocrisy in this statement is incredulous. So you're saying the fact I can't see what you can see (even though it's NOWHERE to be found in the -actual- words that he said), then I'm distorting reality?

Time for your meds again...


Bombs in Iraq… US Forces on killfest offensive… Hamas secured the occupied territories as their Israeli masters offend against the Palestinian homeland… Freddy Fatt cares, The Koran exhorts the faithful to hurl truth against falsehood… that’s what Freddy does… So where is everyone else… There were hundreds of thousands of witnesses to the 911 attacks Willie Rodriguez went public so where is everyone else… Who owned the cars that exploded on FDR Drive, who else saw the missile strike… It looks like a Tomahawk class cruise missile, taking a look at the damage to WTC 5 and 6 on high resolution photographs, it looks like multiple high speed thermonuclear warheads blast an opening, thru which goes the slower central armament with a larger thermonuclear device designed to get at the strategic target below. One concrete panel inside the devastated WTC 6 appears to be partially vaporized, a shallow concave surface defining the spherical dimension of the thermonuclear fusion.

All y’all out there… the whole place is gonna go to Hell in a handbasket, US forces on land and at sea are gonna be wiped out if they attack Iran, the paper money they print to pay their mercenary armies, has so devalued the greenback that the real value is thought to be one US cent. The value will fall further as the carriers go to the bottom, then become meaningless as the armies that are already in place in the US are mobilized to attack the schools, and European dominance on the North American mainland is over.

Stir yourselves you all.

Agriculture, writing, and the domestication of animals all originated in the Tigris Euphrates region called Iraq, the tribes that have been located there since the time of Adam, are the Sunni. The Shia are every one else, the Sunni are often don’t do the manual chores, so they have been bringing in workers from other places for centuries, these workers do not usually attend Sunni mosques which are most often built and maintained by a single extended family. They usually attend to their religious affairs in Mosques that are located in working class areas of the city, that have become known as Shia Mosques. At no time has war or conflict between the two sectors of society been permitted, either under secular law or within the strictures of Islam, and all parties are aware that murder is met with speedy and deadly retaliation, according to the instruction in The Koran.

Murdoch and Co will have you believe an internecine struggle between Shia and Sunni sects within the Moslem infrastructure of Iraq, supported on the Shia side by Iran attempting to establish hegemony in the area, is at the heart of the problem. That is total BS.

PJW at PP reports that recent bombings of civilian targets in Iraq are at the behest of John Negroponte US Deputy Secretary of State. A similar bombing has now left dozens dead and scores injured in Afghanistan. Iraqi’s Accuse U.S. Of Bombing al-Askari Shrine in Samara,: Both Sunnis and Shia say the bombings are plot to incite sectarian violence.

C4 has been in the gruesome car bombings in Iraq. Asked about those and the dozens of civilian bodies that turn up daily, Iraqi Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani, laid responsibility for the deaths, including gruesome beheadings of civilians, at the feet of the unregulated force of one hundred and fifty thousand private security contractors. Fourteen thousand of whom are from Ahmad Chalabi’s Iraqi Free Forces, the remainder are from paramilitary forces with some of the worst human rights records in the world: South Africa, Colombia, Salvador, and Chile, and ex regular special forces from the United Kingdom, United States, Israel, Nepal, Fiji, and the Philippines. Beheadings, such as those seen in Iraq, are a hallmark of the Nepalese Gurkhas.


"OK. Fair enough. I thought you were attacking Jones."

@GAK - Are you Alex Jones? In disguise? I sure hope not.

"And that shit always pisses me off. I think the Moore interview, and it's interpetation at PP,
was fairly accurate."

Except for ONE quote that BLOWS it out of the water. You can't attack mainstream media lies in one breath, and then deal out your own in another. It's simply unacceptable. If PP is to be the watchtower against MSM lies, they MUST clean their own house up first.

" I also felt that Alex, on radio yesterday, was much to kind to mr Moore in his comments."

Jones is almost always, without exception, a true gentleman with his guests - even the ones he clearly disagrees with totally. I think it's one of his biggest strengths.

"But it's still a good thing. I am glad Moore pointed out the 100 cameras at the Pentagon, and by doing so, he was hinting at the obvious. 911 inside job. "

I'm sorry, but this is where I fundamentally disagree, and state that that is -your- interpretation. To take his words at face value, all he is saying is that he would like to see the truth come out. We really don't know whether he thinks it was a missile or whatever, but we do know he wants to see the truth come out. That would be consistent with his agenda on many other fronts.

"He said, I want to know why we can't see the live footage? Raises many eyebrows. He clearly suspects foul play, and vocalized it clearly."

This is a lie, and a falsehood. It's your interpretation. He did -not- say this. It's disingenuous, "spin doctoring" to say this. Trust me, what you did in the statement above (just trust me on this) is something that takes place in Washington PR firms -every- second of the day. You took a page right out of their playbook.

"If you choose to interpet it as something else, I can't stop you."

I've interpreted NOTHING else. That's the whole point and what I'm screaming about - there is no "something else" - when you read it on the page, after a cup of hot chocolate and a sit down, there is nothing explosive about what he's saying.

"Then again, I won't be standing in your shoes on judgement day, just mine."

Well if you believe that, then no wonder it's so hard for you to deal with empirical evidence. Perhaps I have a different belief of what happens after death. But it really has nothing to do with this.


Jesus was defeated to J. Or was he............


Actually, i like Moore's movies; they tell a side of things that very few other film makers will even touch. He has taken alot of shit, including death threats, since 9-11 came out. He is not the pussy some here say he is. How many movies has anyone here made?


Dude. We don't need Moore. But the fact is, the things he said basically scream inside job. If you can't see that, then you have "selective vision".


slow witted moron vs. Wizard of fuck rodent
who will remain standing?
taking odds at 3-5 onthe wizard


We don't even need Moore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We could skewer that fat fuck on a shishkabob without skipping a beat. He ain't shit.
If by now, you don't know that 911 was an inside job, then you have been jaw jacking too much, and need to start doing your research.


PWNED? Sorry. I only speak English, whatever you are.


"We are talking about one simple matter here, but you have complicated it to no end. So where, on the "911 inside job" graph, do you, in your wisdom, think that Michael Moore is?"

I'm almost certain Moore doesn't believe it was an inside job. Which makes it all the more important that HACKS writing for PP don't fuck it up and CLAIM that he said otherwise (when there's not a SHRED of evidence to prove that he did)...

The whole thing is a nice big TRAP for the NWO to pull the rug out from under AJ and PP....


OK. Fair enough. I thought you were attacking Jones. And that shit always pisses me off. I think the Moore interview, and it's interpetation at PP, was fairly accurate. I also felt that Alex, on radio yesterday, was much to kind to mr Moore in his comments. But it's still a good thing. I am glad Moore pointed out the 100 cameras at the Pentagon, and by doing so, he was hinting at the obvious. 911 inside job.
He said, I want to know why we can't see the live footage? Raises many eyebrows. He clearly suspects foul play, and vocalized it clearly.

If you choose to interpet it as something else, I can't stop you. Then again, I won't be standing in your shoes on judgement day, just mine.


@GAK :
Read down the page you slow witted moron.

You know, the story with the headline :

"Michael Moore: 9/11 Could Be Inside Job"

Somehow PWNED doesn't even BEGIN to do justice. You really are a fucking idiot.


Dumbfuck.
The article is titled "Michael Moore has serious questions about 911". And you take that ball, and run with it, as if you had some sort of incredible front page evidence of foul play.

Hate is a strong word. I don't hate Moore. But I do think he is trying to preserve his "title" as the big truth guy. But he ain't. Oh, and ain't isn't a word either, but I like it and you damn well know what I mean, you not white Jackalope.

You may not have deliberately lied, you may have just spoken out of your own stupidity. Which is evident.

We are talking about one simple matter here, but you have complicated it to no end. So where, on the "911 inside job" graph, do you, in your wisdom, think that Michael Moore is?

That dude is a grandstander. He makes a living at it. I highly question his overall integrity.

As I do yours, you misdirecting smoke & mirrors Wizard of fuck rodent.


@GAK let's get one thing straight. I think Alex Jones is a very intelligent man (unlike you). I am quite happy to criticise him because I do believe that even if you respect someone you should be able to criticise them - especially when you know them to be wrong. In the case of this website, I see a number of articles that are -pathetically- written, or in the case of this article, are flat out lies. Do you think that me attacking those writers is about attacking Alex Jones? Are you even smart enough to work out that by attacking these writers I'm actually trying to HELP Jones, and stop these fucking charlatans from robbing credibility from him?

No you never thought of that did you, you zealot. You're using the exact same stupid binary logic "support the troops" type horseshit. Just because you are against the war doesn't mean you don't support the troops. Likewise you can both respect somebody and criticise them at the same time. If you put that individual on a pedestal, your ability to use your own brain and logic and reason go out the window.

You seem to revere him as some sort of GOD. That's not just stupid, it's dangerous. I don't care how much of a Patriot Alex Jones is, he's a human being like you or me. If you start treating him like a god, the movement has already lost its battle for credibility. Nobody respects a demagogue with slobbering obsequeous "fans" for followers.

You're a perfect example of what I'm talking about. You can't even string a logical argument together against me, because you're torn between your love for Jones and your hatred for Moore.

You're LOST.

And by the way - I didn't "insult" Jones (another lie, good stuff).


@GAK you've truly stepped in it now..

"Yiddish.
Your an excellent spin doctor. "

The correct grammar is "you're". Just pointing it out, as one spin doctor to another.

"First of all, I could give a fuck about Moore."

Then why the fuck are you arguing with me?

"I think he's a pussy cause he knew 911 was an inside job along time ago."

Oh right. And you can prove this?

"But he wants to be famous."

He -is- famous. Thanks to idiots like you giving him more credit than he deserves.

"So lending any credit to people like Alex Jones (the real heroes) must really burn his ass."

Find me the exact moment in that video where he even MENTIONED Alex Jones.

But he has no choice now. So he "eludes" to it, there by diffusing both sides.

"That's pussy. If by now, you don't know that 911 was for sure an inside job, then I am calling you either stupid, or a liar."

Did I say that? What the fuck does this have to do with me? For the record, I happen to think it was. But that's not why I'm so angry at this "news" story.

"And yes, you did lie. Moore clearly stated a suspicion that the government was withholding at least 50% of the truth. So once again, dickheads like you twist it to suit your own agenda."

No you fucking moronic cunt. I did not say he didn't say that. All I said was the quote "9/11 Was an inside job" (as stated in the article) NEVER, EVER came out of Moore's mouth. That's not a lie, that's a fact. You may deny it till the cows come home, but as far as material that is solid, hard, verifiable evidence, I am telling the truth. You on the other hand, are doing a bit of "spin doctoring" of your own - trying to weave a fantastical web of what Moore (somebody you admittedly hate) MIGHT have been impying, to support your own agenda. So tell me, how, -exactly- is this kind of misrepresentation of "credible" individuals' testimonies supposed to lend credibility to the movement? It does nothing but give fuel for the NWO to claim they're all a bunch of loonies. If this kind of pathetic yellow journalism continues, they'd be absolutely right too. If you can't step outside of your own beliefs (no matter how right you might think they are), then you're never ever going to be able to fight the true evil in the world - ignorance. I suspect Alex Jones would agree with me on that last one too, judging by some of the rants he has on air about how stupid the people are.

"Finally Yiddish, at least I have a set of balls, and I tell the truth."

If you are accusing me of being a liar, you need to prove it, and so far you're full of shit. Go fuck your bible, moron.


Yiddish. What happened to all your excellent logic?
NEED A MOMENT?


Keep insulting Jones, Yiddish. Your a fool, and you ain't got shit. You know it, and I know it.
GOT MILK?


What's being done to American right now is this simple:

Watch my right hand carefully, and don't take your eyes off it........................
POW!!!!! Left hand upside your head.

Also, I have 3 coconut shells. Watch as I place Osama under the middle shell. Now, watch, as I quickly move the shells...................
Good. Now where is Osama?

I have 3 more coconut shells. I am placing your Constitutional rights under the middle shell. Now watch carefully....................


I would exclude Ron Paul from Iowa too. Unless he agreed to try some Iowa home grown french fries.


Yiddish.
Your an excellent spin doctor.
First of all, I could give a fuck about Moore. I think he's a pussy cause he knew 911 was an inside job along time ago. But he wants to be famous. So lending any credit to people like Alex Jones (the real heroes) must really burn his ass. But he has no choice now. So he "eludes" to it, there by diffusing both sides.

That's pussy. If by now, you don't know that 911 was for sure an inside job, then I am calling you either stupid, or a liar.

And yes, you did lie. Moore clearly stated a suspicion that the government was withholding at least 50% of the truth. So once again, dickheads like you twist it to suit your own agenda.

Finally Yiddish, at least I have a set of balls, and I tell the truth.


Ron Paul Excluded in Iowa
Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com
http://freemarketnews.com/WorldN...s.asp? nid=44134
Iowans for Tax Relief and Iowa Christian Alliance will host a presidential candidates forum on Saturday, June 30th in Des Moines. Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Sam Brownback, Jim Gilmore, Mike Huckabee, Tommy Thompson, and Tom Tancredo will participate.

Ron Paul, however, will not participate.
Why? Because he wasn’t invited.

We heard about this forum from numerous supporters in Iowa who asked why Dr. Paul was not going to participate. Those supporters assumed that Dr. Paul was invited.

The campaign office had not received an invitation so we called this morning; thinking we might have misplaced the invitation or simply overlooked it. Lew Moore, our campaign manager, called Mr. Edward Failor, an officer of Iowans for Tax Relief, to ask about it. To our shock, Mr. Failor told us Dr. Paul was not invited; he was not going to be invited; and he would not be allowed to participate. And when asked why, Mr. Failor refused to explain. The call ended.

Lew then called Mr. Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance, to talk with him. Mr. Scheffler did not answer so Lew left a message. He has yet to respond.

Why are the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluding the one Republican candidate who scored at the top of every online poll taken after the MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN debates? Why are they denying Iowans the opportunity to hear from the Republican presidential candidate whose popularity is growing by the day?

We couldn’t get answers to these questions from Messrs. Failor and Scheffler. Maybe you’ll have better luck. Their contact information is below.

It's ironic that on the same day we learned the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluded Dr. Paul from their candidates forum, we received a call from ABC News confirming Dr. Paul’s participation in its nationally broadcast August 5th debate to be held in Des Moines.

Kent Snyder, Chairman
Ron Paul 2008

Contact Information

Edward Failor
Iowans for Tax Relief
2610 Park Avenue
Muscatine, Iowa 52761
Phone: 563-288-3600 or 877-913-3600
Fax: 563-264-2413
E-mail: itr@taxrelief.org
Web Site

Steve Scheffler, President
Iowa Christian Alliance
939 Office Park Road, Suite 115
West Des Moines, Iowa 50265
Phone: 515-225-1515
Fax: 515-225-1826
E-mail: slscheffler@iowachristian.com
Web Site


(Press Release)


And Sharon is still in a Coma
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He was getting soft, they had to "give" him a stroke...the bloodthinning treatment was way out of line for his condition....clearly a hatchet job. Then again he was an ass.
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He put his own soldiers in harms way 3 separate times while killing innocent civilians, his 2 wives and son mysteriously died.

The guy had evil emminating from his existence.


Need sleep. Wish I could stay and write my mindless shit, but I must work tomorrow. Best to you all and see ya soon.
Peace


@GAK let me dismantle your bullshit piece by piece. This should be a piece of cake.

"Hah!!!
The cover up. See, I knew it. Your full of it Yiddish. And you hate Jews."

Riiight.. Ok.. Is this based on something I "alluded" to? I don't hate jews. You can quote me on that.

" You are just another A typical Jew hating "create my own reality" but ignore the facts special interest asshole."

Ok.. So you -do- care about truth? The very statement you made here could be used to further my argument - that the writer of the Michael Moore story was so brainwashed by his own special interest - 9/11 truth (the fact that I am a truther is irrelevant), that he deliberately falsified a statement by Michael Moore to support his own reality. It's absolutely irrelevant what you believe Michael Moore was thinking during the interview. A NEWS story focuses on the FACTS of what he said - not "What you think he wanted to say". That's just propaganda, like Pravda or any other left wing rag full of lies.

"Moore did everything but jump on the camera man to say 911 inside job."

Right.. This is your opinion, though. You do understand the distinction between opinion and fact, don't you? Because unless you have Michael Moore on record saying the above, basically this is just the crazed rantings of a lunatic's (you) wishful thinking.

"Cause he knows he will lose alot of credibility if he doesn't say it. But he won't scream it in the camera, cause he is a fat chicken shit grandstander who cares more about his own career and fame than he does about America, "

Wait a minute.. So you hate this guy. So how exactly is it useful for you to defend the article, which is falsifying quotes where he purports to support the core belief of the 9/11 truth movement. You're all over the place GAK. If you really did hate Michael Moore, you'd be agreeing with me right now. It's this bizzarre dichotomy where you sort of hope Moore supports 9/11 truth because you know he's "credible", but you still persist in claiming he's part of the coverup, because you hate him so much. You are not using your brain at all, you're using your emotions.

"the WHOLE TRUTH, and freedom.
I should call Alex's lawyers and have them sue your ass for accusing him of libel."

Heh.. Yeah um.. I didn't.. But there is a prima facie case against author of the story, unless he can prove that Michael Moore said "9/11 is an inside job". From the videotape I saw, Michael Moore said no such thing. He didn't even come fucking close, you people amaze me.

"You stupid rodent."

Thanks, I do like hamsters. They're cute, and cuddly.

"Go invent some more lies. That seems to be your real gig."

Right. Would you care to directly address a single lie I've made, here? In this forum? Please be specific.

By the way, leave your weapons at the door, I'd hate for somebody getting shot, since you seem to think with your balls rather than your brain.


And Sharon is still in a Coma
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He was getting soft, they had to "give" him a stroke...the bloodthinning treatment was way out of line for his condition....clearly a hatchet job. Then again he was an ass.


J. I grew up in Lynwood WA. Seattle is a fun and beautiful emerald city. Lot's of art, and music, and fun. But the surrounding suburbs have become a police state control grid nightmare.
And the real wealth, consists of the exchanged alien technology. We haven't needed fossil fuels for 35 years now.


“I had nothing to do with the attacks!” Osama Bin Laden
http://911exposed.org/Missile.htm
Is there technology for remote control aircraft?

Technology for the remote control piloting of aircraft has existed since the 1940s. The CIA has even used drone (UAV) planes to carry out assassinations.[i] In fact, prior to 9/11, there were plans to assassinate Osama Bin Laden with a Predator drone armed with “Hellfire” missiles, but the CIA and other administration officials opted not to attempt the operation.[ii] Other drones in common service with the U.S. military are the “Global Hawk”, BQM-34, and MQM-107 systems. This remote control technology can also be installed on standard passenger-type aircraft.

What was Operation “Northwoods”?
Operation “Northwoods” was an early ‘60’s plan by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to create a pretext for an invasion of Cuba. The plans developed ways to trick the American public into supporting a war to oust Cuba’s Fidel Castro.

The operation laid forth an array of attacks on Americans by the US government, such as terrorism, hijackings, assassinations, and blowing up our own ships or planes. One such plan was to create an incident, which would have a USAF jet, painted as a Cuban MIG, shoot down an American airliner over international waters in an unprovoked attack. Their clever plan would have the airliner do a plane swap over Florida with a remote control airliner drone. The real airliner would land safely, while the drone, over international waters, would be remotely detonated.

Fortunately for America, JFK rejected “Northwoods” (See Appendix for portions of the original, now declassified “Northwoods” document).

With today’s technology it is easy to remote control an aircraft from the air, ground, or both simultaneously. There are many defense contractors that produce remote control technology, such as Lockheed-Martin and Boeing, but one person and one company, seems to stand. Rabbi Dov Zakheim, who latter would become Comptroller of the Pentagon in May 2001, headed a high-tech company, called System Planning Corp (SPC) that specialized in drone electronics. According to the company website, they specialize in many areas of defense technology, including a highly sophisticated war-game technology that allows the control of as many as eight different drones from a remote location, either on the ground or airborne, with a range of several hundred miles. This technology can be used on many different types of aircraft, including large passenger jets.[iii] In October 1994, NASA flew a Boeing 737 on 110 flawless remote controlled missions (See Appendix: Remote Control for full story).[iv] It would seem System Planning Corp could convert just about any aircraft that suited their purposes into a remote control variant and have it able to follow commands from the air or ground. An EC-130 outfitted with the “DC” drone control gear would be an excellent platform for Rabbi Zakheim’s technology.

One theory has the 767’s involved in the WTC attacks––as coming from the USAF KC-767 tankers that were outfitted with remote-control electronics. Rabbi Zakheim was directly involved in both the tanker deal (with Richard Perle) and the drone technology. Experts expect up to 2,000 UAVs in 5-10 years. That’s now!

The website, Directory of U.S. Military Rockets and Missiles gives the following description of a Raytheon MQM-107 Drone:

The MQM-107 Streaker is a high-subsonic subscale aerial target used by the U.S. Army and Air Force. The MQM-107A is powered by a turbojet in a nacelle under the fuselage, and is launched from a zero-length launcher with the help of a single solid-propellant rocket booster. The target can fly preprogrammed missions, but can also be controlled from the ground through a radio command guidance system. The Streaker’s flight envelope includes speeds from about 370 km/h (200 kts.) to 926 km/h (500 kts.), constant high-g turns, and flight at very low altitudes. The target is recovered by a two-stage parachute system, which is initiated either automatically by loss of critical systems, or by ground command. The MQM-107A can use the usual variety of payloads for aerial targets, including radar, IR, and visual augmentation devices, scoring devices, and countermeasures.


Read Orwell!


Jerry Fallwell is still dead
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Along with Franco...
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And Kurt Waldheim
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And Sharon is still in a Coma


Is there any good news?
Steve Irwin is dead. Steve was the Grand master of the new Scottish rite, and a council of 9 member of the Illuminati.


Long live the spirit of Seattle!
Nationalise the banks.
Nationalise the natural resources of this land.
Make Exxon and Haliburton fund the war in Iraq and in Afghanistan.
Share the wealth with ALL people.
If the wealthy will not share freely, then force them to by law and public demand.
Money is tyranny.................destroy the tyrant!


Jerry Fallwell is still dead
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Along with Franco...
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.20.07 - 3:12 am | #

And Kurt Waldheim


The idea is startling but immediately recognizable as true: our most deadly enemies are in the corporate boardrooms and governmental offices where decisions are made that consign millions to death and misery--not deliberately, but as "collateral damage' of the lust for profit and power.
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COrporate entities should not have human rights....most states had a provision that corporations had to work to the benefit of the state of incorporation...those rules were stripped out (under Regan I think) now corporations operate as socipaths racing to the bottom line.


June 19, 2007
Findings
Taxes a Pleasure? Check the Brain Scan
By JOHN TIERNEY
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/1...int& oref=slogin
The University of Oregon announced a new piece of research last week with a startling headline: “Paying taxes, according to the brain, can bring satisfaction.”

Could this be true? The research is in the new issue of Science, so it’s got the right pedigree, but still. How could politicians have gotten it so wrong? Even the most liberal Democratic candidates never imagined a lot of voters whistling as they merrily write out checks to the I.R.S.

Before any campaign strategists start poring over brain-scan data in the paper, let me temper the happy news. First, this study did not exactly involve a nationally representative sample of taxpayers. The sample consisted of 19 female students at the University of Oregon. And they were not exactly paying taxes as the T-word is understood on the campaign trail.

It is a fascinating bit of research, not so much for its political implications but for what it reveals about humans’ compulsion to be nice. We preach altruism to our children and occasionally even practice it ourselves. Viewers of “American Idol” weren’t surprised to see even Simon Cowell sounding like Albert Schweitzer when he visited sick children in Africa; we expect at least a show of altruism from everyone.

We are so convinced of our goodness that we recoil at the philosophers and social scientists who have come up with less uplifting explanations for our behavior. (What is it with these nasty academics?)

Kant considered acts motivated by sympathy as not praiseworthy, because they make the do-gooder feel better. Psychologists have similarly argued that “empathy altruism” is ultimately selfish, because of the emotional benefits it provides to the giver.

The sociobiologist Robert Trivers worked out the mathematics of “reciprocal altruism,” whereby our urge to be nice ultimately serves to propagate our genes by inducing others to cooperate with us. If you know that even Simon Cowell cannot help being altruistic, you are more inclined to give him help when he desperately needs it.

Some economists have attributed altruism to the “warm glow” effect — the pleasurable feeling of playing Lady Bountiful and basking in public admiration. They’ve argued that there is no such thing as “pure altruism.” But now the pure variety has been spotted in the brains of students, at least according to the new paper by a psychologist, Ulrich Mayr, and two economists, William T. Harbaugh and Daniel R. Burghart, all at the University of Oregon.

Their experiment was drawn up to remove some of the usual incentives for being charitable like the fear of looking stingy or the prestige of being named in the program of a charity dinner. Each student was given $100 and told that nobody would know how much of it she chose to keep or give away, not even the researchers who enlisted her in the experiment and scanned her brain. Payoffs were recorded on a portable memory drive that the students took to a lab assistant, who then paid the students in cash and mailed donations to charity without knowing who had given what.

The brain responses were measured by a functional M.R.I. machine as a series of transactions occurred. Sometimes the student had to choose whether to donate some of her cash to a local food bank. Sometimes a tax was levied that sent her money to the food bank without her approval. Sometimes she received extra money, and sometimes the food bank received money without any of it coming from her.

Sure enough, when the typical student chose to donate to the food bank, she was rewarded with that warm glow: increased activity in the same ancient areas of the brain — the caudate, nucleus accumbens and insula — that respond when you eat a sweet dessert or receive money. But these pleasure centers were also activated, albeit not as much, when she was forced to pay a tax to the food bank.

This doesn’t mean that the student, or anyone else, would necessarily enjoy writing a check to the Internal Revenue Service that would be spent on plenty of programs less appealing than a food bank. It is more like the tax collected by a state lottery that dedicates its profits to schools. (And you can see why the lotteries work so well on the brain — they are stimulating greed and altruism at the same time.)

But the results do bolster the case for “pure altruism,” because the student paying the tax could not take personal credit for deciding to feed the hungry. In real life, she might get a warm glow by voting for a candidate who promised higher taxes to help the needy, but in this experiment she did not make any choice at all.

“The most surprising result is that these basic pleasure centers in the brain don’t respond only to what’s good for yourself,” said Dr. Mayr, the psychologist. “They also seem to be tracking what’s good for other people, and this occurs even when the subjects don’t have a say in what happens.”

Dr. Harbaugh, one of the economists, said the results did not resolve the debate over whether to help the needy with public programs or private charity. “There’s something for both sides here,” he said. “We’re showing that paying taxes does produce a neural reward. But we’re showing that the neural reward is even higher when you have voluntary giving.”

Of course, not everyone receives the same neural rewards from giving. The researchers divided their subjects into “egoists” and “altruists,” according to whether their brains registered more pleasure receiving money themselves or more pleasure watching money go to the charity.

There were almost equal numbers of egoists and altruists, and their brain scans correlated with their altruistic behavior. The altruists chose to donate $20 on average, while the egoists gave just $11. Unfortunately, the researchers did not ask the students in either group for their political preferences, so we cannot even begin to speculate who is stingier, Democrats or Republicans.

The most intriguing results were the ones from two of the experimental subjects, students whose brain scans made them definite egoists yet who were also among the most generous in donating. You could dismiss them as statistical outliers, but I like to think we have finally spotted the creature dismissed by so many scholars as myth.

These two women enjoyed no neural reward from charity — their brains didn’t get enough of a warm glow to compensate for the pain of parting with their money — yet they made anonymous donations anyway. Diogenes, we may not have found an honest man, but we do seem to have located a couple of true altruists. Either that or two determined masochists.
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I cannot believe this was in the NYT and not The Onion.

War = Peace
Love = Hate
Truth = Deception
Protection = Liberty


J. Right. Except,
Not deliberately? Wrong. You are a little behind on your studies of the secret societies. Ask Sane to post some links for you.


Jerry Fallwell is still dead
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Along with Franco...


Robots that learn the location of a certain target could lead other robots to it without any human supervision.
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We wil create our replacements; the next evolutionary step, so to speak. Nano tech combined with intelligent machines is the end of carbon absed life as we know it!


What shall we do then?
we start with the core problem:there is immense wealth available, enough to care for the urgent needs of everyone on Earth, and this wealth is being monopolized by a very small number of individuals, who squander it on luxuries and war while millions die and millions more live in misery and squalor.
This is a problem understood by people everywhere, becasue it has a simplicity absent in issues of war and nationalism.
The world is run by the rich and that money decides politics, culture, and some of the most intimate human relations.
The idea is startling but immediately recognizable as true: our most deadly enemies are in the corporate boardrooms and governmental offices where decisions are made that consign millions to death and misery--not deliberately, but as "collateral damage' of the lust for profit and power.


Is there any good news out there Sane?
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Jerry Fallwell is still dead


GOVERNMENT STUDIES HOW TO HERD MASSES ONTO TRAINS THEN INTO HALLIBURTON CONCENTRATION CAMPS

Follow the Leader: Democracy in Herd Mentality
http://www.livescience.com/ anima...low_leader.html
By Michael Schirber, LiveScience Staff Writer

posted: 08 February, 2005 7:00 a.m. ET
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Bees do it. Birds do it. So do fish and wildebeests. They are all able to gracefully flock or swarm in a particular direction even though not every member of the group knows where they are going.

Even human beings will tend to follow each other with a herd mentality -- say, out of a crowded theater. New research provides some surprising insight into what's going on, including a group penchant for democratic decisions."Groups of animals move purposefully, yet often only relatively few individuals have pertinent information as to where to travel," said Iain Couzin of the University of Oxford.Biologists have often wondered if there is some complex communication that goes on between the informed and the uninformed. But Couzin and his collaborators have shown in simulations that a simple set of behavioral rules can control a group."There's no explicit signaling in our model," Couzin told LiveScience. "No one is saying, 'I know something - come follow me.'" The only requirement seems to be a balance between a need to stay in the group and a desire on the part of some to go off in their own preferred direction. These goal-oriented individuals look just like their naïve colleagues.

"No inherent differences, genetic or otherwise, such as dominance or body size, need to be invoked to explain leadership," Couzin said.The fact that the followers in the simulation have no way to recognize who is leading them may explain how animals efficiently move in crowded environments, where they can only see their nearest neighbors."[This study] demonstrates the power of the little guy," said Daniel Rubenstein of Princeton University, who did not participate in the study. "You don't need avowed leaders, you don't need complex signaling."The results, published in the Feb. 3 issue of the journal Nature, might be useful in developing swarms of robots for exploring the oceans or other planets.

Follow the virtual leader
In computer simulations, Couzin and his colleagues programmed virtual animals with the instinct to stay near others - an important survival trait in many species. The researchers then endowed some members in the flock with a preferred direction - be it toward a food source or a new nesting site.

They then determined how close the group would come to arriving at this goal.Accuracy increased as more of the members knew where to go. But at a certain point, adding more informed individuals did not increase the accuracy by very much. To give an example, a group of 10 gets about the same advantage from having five leaders as having six.The minimum percentage of informed individuals needed to achieve a certain level of accuracy depended on the size of the group. If 10 virtual buffaloes need 50 percent of the herd to know where the watering hole is, a group of 200 can get by with only 5 percent.In nature, it is likely that the number of leaders is kept as low as possible. Couzin gave the example of bees, for which scouting out a new nest site is dangerous, as well as time-consuming. Studies have shown that only five percent of a hive's population gets involved with scouting.

Democratic principles

As is the case in human interactions, there will sometimes be a disagreement between those who are in the know.

For instance, there may be five individuals who know of a food supply to the east, but four others who have spotted food to the north. The researchers found that the entire group will tend to settle on the direction with the greater number of informed individuals.

"In the real world, you do have individuals with different information, needs and preferences," Couzin explained. "What we show is that - using very simple rules - the group will choose the majority. It's almost like a democratic decision."

To test whether these simple rules actually apply in real animals, Couzin's team has begun experiments in which certain fish are trained to associate one direction with a reward. These informed individuals will then be mixed with untrained fish to see if the group can be led.

Informed humans and robots

The scientists also plan to look at human crowds. Couzin thinks there may be a similar sort of mechanism to explain, say, how we walk along a busy street.

"We do it more or less on autopilot," he said.

Perhaps we are subconsciously reconciling two simple commands: get to work on time and avoid stepping on anyone's shoes.

"The mechanism of coordination we propose is very simple and requires only limited cognitive ability," Couzin said. "This simplicity, generality and the effectiveness of the mechanism lend support to its being selected for in populations."

The simple network of commands may also be an efficient way to program teams of robots. Couzin has previously worked with researchers at Princeton University, who are designing underwater robots that can act autonomously.

Robots that learn the location of a certain target could lead other robots to it without any human supervision.


Hah!!!
The cover up. See, I knew it. Your full of it Yiddish. And you hate Jews. You are just another A typical Jew hating "create my own reality" but ignore the facts special interest asshole.
Moore did everything but jump on the camera man to say 911 inside job. Cause he knows he will lose alot of credibility if he doesn't say it. But he won't scream it in the camera, cause he is a fat chicken shit grandstander who cares more about his own career and fame than he does about America, the WHOLE TRUTH, and freedom.
I should call Alex's lawyers and have them sue your ass for accusing him of libel.
You stupid rodent.
Go invent some more lies. That seems to be your real gig.


GOVERNMENT STUDIES NON_VIOLENT CROWD CONTROL / HOW TO DEMOLISH AND BUST UP A CROWD OF CITIZENS OBSERVING THEIR CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT

Modeling Crowd Behavior

http://www.livescience.com/php/ v...0607Crowd_model
Simulated people, or ?agents?, run from a burning car. The simulation tries to predict how real people would react in such an emergency.


GOVERNMENT STUDIES NON_VIOLENT CROWD CONTROL / HOW TO DEMOLISH AND BUST UP A CROWD OF CITIZENS OBSERVING THEIR CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT
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GOVERNMENT STUDIES NON_VIOLENT CROWD CONTROL / HOW TO DEMOLISH AND BUST UP A CROWD OF CITIZENS OBSERVING THEIR CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT

Model Predicts Mob Behavior
http://www.livescience.com/ techn...d_behavior.html
By Andrea Thompson, LiveScience Staff Writer

posted: 14 June 2007 11:29 am ET

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Scientists who want to see how a crowd behaves in an emergency can’t exactly shout “Fire!” on a city street and watch everyone panic and run. But a newly developed computer model can.

The 3-D model starts with patterns of human behavior and movement and uses them to simulate the behavior of a crowd in mob situations and pedestrian habits under certain building configurations, resulting in a virtual crowd video.

“Crowds are vital to the lifeblood of our cities,” said the model’s creator, Paul Torrens of Arizona State University. But, he adds, it is impractical “to establish live experiments with hundreds or thousands of people along busy streetscapes.”

Torrens’s model uses what he calls an “agent-based methodology.” He can put individual people, or “agents,” each with different characteristics of age, sex, size and health, into the model and have them process information about the world around them. Their unique characteristic combinations make the agents interpret that information and react in different ways.

“It’s the same way we process information in the real world,” Torrens said.

Though you’re not aware of it, when you walk down a crowded street, your brain is constantly monitoring your surroundings and planning the path you will take to your destination while simultaneously monitoring for obstacles.

A prototype that Torrens has developed models the evacuation of a crowded area during a fire when there is only one point of escape, but he has used his method to develop a primitive model of a situation in which a disease spreads through casual contact, and he is attempting to create scenarios in which agitated crowds turn into unruly mobs.

The model could also be used in planning cities to optimize walking space for pedestrians and alleviate congestion.


GOVERNMENT STUDIES NON_VIOLENT CROWD CONTROL / HOW TO DEMOLISH AND BUST UP A CROWD OF CITIZENS OBSERVING THEIR CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT


Oh shit spelling counts? I am so fucked......


I've seen how the far left news works - it's pretty much a carbon copy of a lot of the articles on this site recently!
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Well I cannot argue that the leaned into the pitch so to speak; however, I do no think it was an atrocity such as is perpetrated by FOX et al. But misleading is not the way I want my news, I hear you. I have found some of this stuff on PP but overall I do not see much of this kind of deceptive shit here.......sure is more straight forward than mos tother media outlets.


@ Gabriel Alan King

"Alluding" ? What the fuck? What the fuck kind of journalist QUOTES somebody based on something they BELIEVE the subject was "Alluding" to?

You said "10$ says you don't even believe in the Bible."

Can I infer from this that you are "alluding" to the fact that you think I'm actually a Jew, and you're a racist pig with homicidal tendencies?

How would you feel if I published that? Use your fucking brain (if you have one).


@Ron in LA

I take your point that he's lending credibility to the movement, and that's a good thing, but I'm sorry you cannot attribute a statement to someone just because they say "right".

The use of the word is -clearly- as phatic communcation, in place of "go on", or "uh-huh" to indicate he was listening. Anyway, even if he was agreeing, you simply cannot make up a quote in which he says something he didn't say and say he said it!

I agree it's good that someone like that is lending credibility to the movement, but then the movement goes and shoots itself in the foot with propaganda like this that would be more comfortable nestled among the pages of a socialist newspaper than among intelligent people. I've seen how the far left news works - it's pretty much a carbon copy of a lot of the articles on this site recently!


Michael Moore eluded to possible foul play in 911. You are reaching.
How could you possibly complicate something so simple? Answer: You are basically full of shit.
I saw the video today, genius. He eluded to foul play, especially when he cited the 100 missing pentagon videos.
And so what is your point, accuser?
I can tell your full of shit now, like I could before.
10$ says you don't even believe in the Bible.
So what the fuck do you know, strip club bottom feeder?


I just watched the video of Michael Moore again. NOWHERE does he say ANYTHING resembling "9/11 was an inside job".

This article is propaganda of the purest kind. Absolutely disgusting, that Alex Jones would stoop to the tactics of those he's fighting.
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at 6:20 in the video hes says "right" to the statement that 9/11 was an inside job. Overall his statements imply that he is no longer considering us all whackos. I think you are wrong on this and should put it to bed!


This would throw a curve the FED's would never expect and the way I see it, the more people there the less likely something bad will happen.

Sincerely;
Steve
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It would be good if we caould all go rally around the Browns! Unfortunately most of us are broke because the cost of living is so fucking higha nd our dollar is worth half of what is was when Jr. was appointed!
I shit housing in LA are at median 439,000.00 my neighborhood is at a median near 1.5 million; obviously I do not own the house i live in........or I would be at the Browns.


I just watched the video of Michael Moore again. NOWHERE does he say ANYTHING resembling "9/11 was an inside job".

This article is propaganda of the purest kind. Absolutely disgusting, that Alex Jones would stoop to the tactics of those he's fighting.


Gingrich ‘rewrites 9/11 history.’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...es-911-history/
A new advertisement by Newt Gingrich linking the threat of terrorism to the immigration debate “rewrites 9/11 history.”

“Mohamed Atta, and several other 9/11 hijackers were in the United States illegally,” Gingrich begins the ad. Photos of Atta and other 9/11 hijackers appear and the word “Illegally” — printed in bold, red letters — flashes over the screen.

“Today, more than five years since that tragic day, our borders remain open to gangs, drug dealers and terrorists,” says Gingrich in the ad.

However, according to the 9/11 Commission Report, Gingrich’s statement is incorrect.

“Atta was in the country legally on 9/11,” said Janice Kephart, a former counsel to the 9/11 Commission and co-author of the commission’s report on 9/11 and Terrorist Travel.

All of the 19 men who hijacked planes on September 11th, including Atta, entered the United States on a tourist or student visa, issued by the former U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service, according to the 9/11 Commission.

Watch the ad:


I get a kick outta how the anti-defamation league nails people for just stating simple non-offensive facts about Jews. Like the fact that they control the FED. They do this because they want to stay below radar.


US Papers Wednesday: Day Two in Diyala
"Hearts and Minds" for Soldiers, Mental Health for Diplomats
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...y_Two_in_Diyala

The New York Times runs circles around the other guys in reporting on the now full-blown US-Iraqi offensive in Diyala Province. After being the first off the block yesterday with the announcement of the operations, the NYT's man on the ground in Ba'quba is printing detailed descriptions of the action (from the embedded perspective) while the rest of the pack are playing catch-up.

Other Iraq-datelined news is dominated by the massive car bomb that damaged a Shi'a mosque in the capital and killed over 60, with both Times and Post reports including eyewitness accounts at the scene.

Stateside, the Monitor looks at "hearts and minds" training for US forces, and the Post riffs on its earlier series on mental health issues in the military with a look at stress, trauma, and PTSD in the diplomatic corps serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. Alissa Rubin leads her Iraq roundup in the Times with an on-the-ground account of the powerful suicide truck bomb in Baghdad that killed at least 61 and wounded 130. Reaction at the scene of the blast that devastated the Shi'a Khalani mosque on Tuesday. In addition to the outrage, sadness, and horror at the attack


COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina Treasurer Thomas Ravenel has been indicted on federal cocaine charges.

Ravenel and another man, Michael L. Miller, have been accused of distributing less than 500 grams of the drug starting in late 2005.

Gov. Mark Sanford has suspended Ravenel immediately based on the serious nature of the charge. The governor said he'll name an interim treasurer soon.


U.S. Attorney Reggie Lloyd said Ravenel bought less than 500 grams of cocaine to share with other people.

Ravenel is chairman for former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign.


I'm not anti-semitic, that's just fact.


No excuses. No psycho babble. No 2nd amendment= SLAVERY
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You know what Gabriel you are right. I never thought i would be saying it but you are right! I hunt I have been shooting since i was 8 years old (4 if you count BB guns) but i always thought that gun control was a good thing....the last 6 years have shown me the err of my ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I actually trusted the government to help us out and do its part as stated in the constitution and Bill of Rights etc. I am now thinking that my guns and your guns are the only form of security that we have...and it aint much. Put my hand gun, shotgun, and rifles up against a fully auto anything and I am dead...but I have some leverage before I die......that maybe all we get! SOrry for the sprawling reply to an old post....


GAK, Jewish bankers are reality not myth!

Of the 12 banks that own the FED, only 1 bank is not controlled by Jews.......Rockefeller's Chase Bank.


@Gabriel Alan King

You're a moron. Do you really care about the truth? Do ANY of you really give a crap about the truth? Then you wouldn't disagree with me on this one. HE DIDN'T SAY IT. That makes it FALSE. It doesn't matter what he -implied-. Most civilised nations on earth have defamation laws for this very reason - anyone can be suggested to have implied anything if you have
the skills.

You said : "Moore never said "911 was definately and inside job", And therefore, the assertion of the original article is all together totally accurate."

Apart from the fact your statement makes no sense and contradicts itself (so he never said it, therefore the misquote was correct? What the fuck?), you're right. He also never said : "9/11 Could Be Inside Job". Did you SEE the headline? It was and I quote :

"Michael Moore: 9/11 Could Be Inside Job"

If you have even half a brain, you would know that in journalistic prose, that kind of statement is called attribution. As in that statement was attributed to him. It doesn't fucking matter that there was no quotation marks, the phrasing ATTRIBUTES that statement to Michael Moore.

Under the laws of most nations, if that statement is false, the person who wrote the article, and the news organisation that propogated it can be sued for defamation. The onus is on the journalist to prove that he said it, using tape or a transcript, or whatever.

You know the funny thing GAK, is I thought apart from that the article was interesting, potentially quite good. But how can you trust a so-called journalist who is so casual and flippant with the "facts". This is not the first time PP or Infowars have done this (it's a signature of the MI-6 yellow journalism of the Watson Brothers), and I'm really getting quite sick of it - they really don't need to. It's sensationalist and designed to increase readership.

In short, GAK - Grow a brain.


You can call whoever's lawyers you want. Moore never said "911 was definately and inside job". And therefore, the assertion of the original article is all together totally accurate.
But thanks for accusing real men of God and the truth, while our country sinks like the Titanic thanks to a Satanic NWO.


Your barking up the wrong tree. Yiddish.
Keep attacking the patriots. Meanwhile, the NWO is steamrolling our country. Got anything real to add besides petty trite whimsical bickerings over trivial and meaningless nonsense?


Actually I was a little too optimistic - the story is still there.. Like a festering libellous sore..

Sit tight while I call Mike's lawyers..


LOL.. Wow.. I didn't expect the article to be changed so rapidly.

I should have taken a screen shot LOL .. Never thought you guys would resort to doing what CNN et al do - quietly change the story and hope nobody saw the truth - you're yellow.

I know other people saw it though. I'm guessing cooler heads upstairs prevailed. Good work.


More irresponsible journalism from PrisonPlanet. Can you please show me the ACTUAL quote in that article where Michael Moore SAYS "9/11 Could have been an inside job?". How the hell do you think you can get away with BLATANTLY misquoting someone like that? It's not even misquoting, it's FABRICATING a quote. And you guys have the temerity to rant on about the Hearst Press and Yellow Journalism? LOL are you serious!?

It is IRRELEVANT that he said lots of things that pointed to that. If he didn't say it, he didn't say it, PERIOD. How the hell you expect to get SUPPORTERS for the cause when you practise such blatantly yellow journalistic practices I'll never know. At least the MSM has the integrity not to completely falsify a quote by someone. Aren't you even remotely afraid of Michael Moore's lawyers?

Absolutely, thoroughly, despicable. What could have been a really interesting, important article about Michael Moore's support for the 9/11 truth movement turns into fodder for the NWO to prove that people who run this site are just a bunch of lunatics who will say anything (even lie) to further their cause.


It's pretty sad when in order to get the truth I have to come here, or tune into John Stewart or the Colbert report.

The reason that there is a strong frequency on the playlist of movies like "Red Dawn", "Braveheart", V, and "Gladiator", is NOT cause the NWO is trying to provoke us. It is because God is trying to get us ready for what's soon ahead. God is making sure the movies play.


I am with you Alex. Liked the spilt coffee thing this morning. That was sort of funny. Been there, done that. I know this is the end for America. We are counting the days, not weeks. But I have a plan to do something about it. A good one. "Evil Bastard" patrol has been mobilized, and the Ghostbusters are on the way. We will take the fight to them, and they will be afraid. Time for man to pony up, all sides.


Sane. I must compliment you on your home page. Very true and heartfelt. Awesome work, TRON.


Funny how they use transportation problems to "tighten the Federal control grid". All sugar coated and packaged nicely, of course.
Thanks for the bolds.


"validate driver behavior and acceptance"


This is a message to all illegal aliens.
We know what your up to. Fuck La Raza. And fuck you. My gun is loaded, and what you intended to do to us, we will do to you.
Get the fuck out of America, you traitor brainwashed pieces of shit. And fuck Philipinos too.
You don't like white people? Then fuck you.
I have some Mexican and philipino friends who are cool. And they don't want to hurt us.
But if some of you think you are gonna make a temporary deal with the NWO to take us down,

YOU GOT ANOTHER THING COMING! You brown skin little scumbags.

Wait till the whites and blacks realize you are racist. We will stomp on your asses. Cause most black people are loyal to America.


TRAFFIC CONGESTION:
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/DOT/FHWA/ ...licitation.html
The Texas Transportation Institute has estimated that in 2003, traffic congestion nationwide cost the economy over $65 billion per year, a figure that has more than doubled since 1993. This figure would be even higher if it accounted for the significant cost of unreliability to drivers and businesses, the environmental impacts of idle-related auto emissions, or increased gasoline prices. Major sources of congestion on the highway network include bottlenecks, incidents, adverse weather, poor signal timing and work zones. Congestion caused by these sources is difficult to mitigate due to the lack of mechanisms to control traffic demands and prevent gridlock where capacity limitations exist. This inability to control demand is exacerbated by the fundamental economic fact that individual motorists' price for transportation service does not reflect the full cost of congestion from their use of the highway facilities. The focus of this research area is to identify, develop and assess innovations that have the potential to dramatically reduce traffic congestion through significant operational and technological improvements. These innovations, if successful, should provide considerable relief to drivers and significantly reduce the costs of congestion.

Proposals that focus on congestion mitigation exploring longer-term, higher risk ideas with the potential for dramatic breakthroughs addressing the causes and consequences of traffic congestion are specifically encouraged. Proposals addressing the following specific topics are also highly encouraged.

1. Research that addresses the gaps in understanding and knowledge of Vehicle Infrastructure Integration (VII) and that develop new mobility concepts, validate driver behavior and acceptance, and assess the feasibility and mobility benefits through simulation studies based upon VII.
2. Research to investigate the adaptation of state-of-the-practice of heuristic methods used to solve complex optimization problems in other domains, such as such as military science, computer science, and enterprise integration with the objective of applying these heuristic methods to the domain of intelligent transportation systems (ITS).
3. Innovative approaches to generate origin-destination (O-D) tables. Of particular interest is the possible identification and adaptation of algorithms and computational methods used in other domains in order to identify an estimation model that can provide highly accurate O-D table data in real-time.
4. Research to investigate if advanced materials can be developed and incorporated into pavements to support network radio communication services. This communication innovation could reduce the costs of communication for traffic management and other public purposes. This technology could also enable new applications such as automated and pervasive system condition and performance monitoring that would not be possible otherwise.
5. Research in effective data fusion, data mining, and non-parametric approaches for assessing highway conditions and performance that will overcome the existing gaps in data quality.
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GAK-I bolded just for u


http://www.fbo.gov/spg/DOT/FHWA/ ...licitation.html


TRAFFIC CONGESTION:

The Texas Transportation Institute has estimated that in 2003, traffic congestion nationwide cost the economy over $65 billion per year, a figure that has more than doubled since 1993. This figure would be even higher if it accounted for the significant cost of unreliability to drivers and businesses, the environmental impacts of idle-related auto emissions, or increased gasoline prices. Major sources of congestion on the highway network include bottlenecks, incidents, adverse weather, poor signal timing and work zones. Congestion caused by these sources is difficult to mitigate due to the lack of mechanisms to control traffic demands and prevent gridlock where capacity limitations exist. This inability to control demand is exacerbated by the fundamental economic fact that individual motorists' price for transportation service does not reflect the full cost of congestion from their use of the highway facilities. The focus of this research area is to identify, develop and assess innovations that have the potential to dramatically reduce traffic congestion through significant operational and technological improvements. These innovations, if successful, should provide considerable relief to drivers and significantly reduce the costs of congestion.

Proposals that focus on congestion mitigation exploring longer-term, higher risk ideas with the potential for dramatic breakthroughs addressing the causes and consequences of traffic congestion are specifically encouraged. Proposals addressing the following specific topics are also highly encouraged.

1. Research that addresses the gaps in understanding and knowledge of Vehicle Infrastructure Integration (VII) and that develop new mobility concepts, validate driver behavior and acceptance, and assess the feasibility and mobility benefits through simulation studies based upon VII.
2. Research to investigate the adaptation of state-of-the-practice of heuristic methods used to solve complex optimization problems in other domains, such as such as military science, computer science, and enterprise integration with the objective of applying these heuristic methods to the domain of intelligent transportation systems (ITS).
3. Innovative approaches to generate origin-destination (O-D) tables. Of particular interest is the possible identification and adaptation of algorithms and computational methods used in other domains in order to identify an estimation model that can provide highly accurate O-D table data in real-time.
4. Research to investigate if advanced materials can be developed and incorporated into pavements to support network radio communication services. This communication innovation could reduce the costs of communication for traffic management and other public purposes. This technology could also enable new applications such as automated and pervasive system condition and performance monitoring that would not be possible otherwise.
5. Research in effective data fusion, data mining, and non-parametric approaches for assessing highway conditions and performance that will overcome the existing gaps in data quality.


Can I apply for Amnesty? I mean, it sure the hell has more benefits than being an American citizen.

Um, we have people to kill.


"Drop that magazine mother fucker!"- Nico, Above the Law


Looks like Amuzed ducked out the back door with what was left of his pride.


Gotta love dafoe in drag- Sane


At least the "dafoe" part.

L8tr.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:48 am | #

For some reason that movie also reminds me of Above the Law (when Segal was a hero)


"Now we got a huge guy theory, and a serial crusher theory."- Boon dock saints


Gotta love dafoe in drag- Sane


At least the "dafoe" part.

L8tr.


"Greely. Onion bagel, cream cheese."- Boon dock saints


TRON. Thanks for downsizing it to my level. I see now. Toll roads too.


One of my favorite movies. But just goes to show that the killing never ends. Pretty soon being "right" is not really what it is cracked up to be when it requires the enforcement of extreme measures.
Johnny in CA | 06.20.07 - 12:45 am | #

Gotta love dafoe in drag


Tron. Now, that's an old movie. Speaking of which. About to throw in a copy of Boon Dock Saints. Nothing like a little ass kicking directed at the seedy side of life.

One of my favorite movies. But just goes to show that the killing never ends. Pretty soon being "right" is not really what it is cracked up to be when it requires the enforcement of extreme measures.


Excellent idea Steve. I grew up in WA State. Lynnwood.


GAK-Our highways now have the following 7 objectives according to the NWO:

1. Analytical Approaches to Multimodal Investment Analysis
2. Emerging Issues in Innovative Finance
3. Alternative Futures to Freight Mobility
4. Integration of Transportation Data from Multiple Sources
5. Travel Demand Response to Travel Pricing
6. Geospatial Data Acquisition for Highway System Performance Monitoring
7. Advanced Approaches for Identifying Fuel Tax Evasion Practices
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This is not transportation, this is tyranny!


ok, even I, the anti-truth, NWO Ranger, need sleep sometimes; so, alas, I must say good night. No, No, please. I know you want me to stay, but I must go recharge the batteries of ultimate truth.

Good night good people.. (and you too gabe)


Every attack on the 2nd amendment, is an attack on the foundations of our Republic. If the second amendment falls, this country falls. Pure and simple.

No excuses. No psycho babble. No 2nd amendment= SLAVERY


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Without a "Concept"? Race as Discursive Practice
Alaina Lemon

Eric Weitz urges scholars of Soviet society to consider claims made in other fields that boundaries are fluid between national and racial categ0ries.l For, if contemporaneous "modern" states built national institutions by disciplining bodies and defining populations, by means of what Michel Foucault calls biopower, could a modernizing Soviet state uniquely refuse such strategies? If this holds, and "if one can see the oscillation in the United States between liberal political . . . and racial conceptions of the nation, which reserve citizenship for the members of the purported white race, why should one be surprised that the Soviets had their own oscillations." Weitz infers a particular Soviet version of racial politics at the intersection between biopower and federalism, where resistance from nationally defined "groups" might threaten the malleability of the New Man. Weitz's argument is compelling, and it charges us to take up important questions. One could, along with Weitz, deduce a "Soviet slide from nationality to race" by analogy, observing in England, for instance, a slide from "class" to "race." Analogies showing that social categories such as "race" and "nation" are potentially fluid form a strong beginning pointbut where does one look for the particular ways Soviets configured and deployed "race"? This methodological and epistemological concern frames my response. Weitz suggests seeking race in "practice." As "practice" he includes "policies exercised by states" that structure or ascribe identity-here namely Soviet ethnic and national purges. He subdivides policy into actions on bodies and on identities, the latter representing "effort [that] marked the practice of racial politics despite the absence of an articulated racial ideology"(emphasis added). Weitz later writes that the "absence of [an explicit racial] ideology acted as a brake on the Soviet regime's population politics," that is, as a brake on practice. Searching for racial "concepts" in "practice," defined this way, separates language from social action. Instead, I prefer to treat race as discursive practice. The term discursive practice includes specific articulations of ideology as actions and avoids reducing discourse to schema while acknowledging the structural constraints of language. To ascribe identity is not only a "mark" of practice, nor just a brake o n practice, but is a practice among others. To point to resettlements and purges as macroevents does not elucidate the discursive practices that constituted them. To sketch the broad outlines of an event in which policy targeted every member of a group does not itself prove racial logics were at work (race is not the only social category that can be delimited in seemingly absolute ways), though it signals that we should look more closely for racial logics. How did troops identify who was to be rounded up? B passport? B accent? B external y y y
1. See especially ~ t i e n n e Balibar, "Le Racislne encore ui1 universalisme," Mots 18 (March 1989): 7-19.
Slavic Review 61, no. 1 (Spring 2002)


I think we need to be rational here! I mean "Take a good look at that house"!!

We ought to get a 5 man crew and go paint the damn house. If any one knows what color they want, that is a start. I'll gladly go do the job if the finance is available. I hear NH is gorgeous this time of year.

This would throw a curve the FED's would never expect and the way I see it, the more people there the less likely something bad will happen.

Sincerely;
Steve


Seems to make sense Gabriel. But the board is getting a bit long in the tooth if you know what I mean.


TRON. That shit was longer than the Encyclopedia. Don't think I got it in me to read it.


Yah. The gun can't kill the spirit. But it can sure put the host six feet under.


Johnny.
Amuzed thinks Ron Paul sucks, and we are all just conspiracy nuts. Does that clarify anything?


Or perhaps we'll just hand out crucifixes and shout at the devil all day long, while the very minions of Satan are ready to slay you and your next of kin.


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