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Cash for a knighthood...I think police lied and Blair and levy guiltyoif major cover up...Take a look a witness Courtney Coventry"s London Visit statement www.courtneycoventry.com
Philip Marinz | 07.25.07 - 3:47 pm | #

bout time someone stood up to our government.....U try pay n all those taxes upon taxes ....our gov gets way to much of our checks!! I cant even claim my child support or any of my little ones BS!! thank God for the Browns ..it all goes to illegals anyway whom run over our citizens when they r drunk!! section 8
T | 07.23.07 - 7:46 pm | #

Your just a damn baby, coward!
gregg | 07.13.07 - 2:57 am | #

Power to the truth, I sincerly hope that the internet can win nutrality because if it does'nt and is censored like the BBC and world media organisations we are ALL fucked!

What has really bothered me over the last few weeks is the fact that here in the UK the biggest Internet Cable company "NTL" sold out to "Virgin Media" (NO BIG DEAL YOU MAY SAY!) but at a loss to the subcribers in sevices, almost over night "Branson" the Brittish "Illuminati's Stepping Stone Sleeper Agent" has sold the Internet company onto a USA contingent!

This is sooo Bad as the USA Government are hell bent on "Killing the truth via" Free Speach on the web" I can see that money in our day and age can buy "ANYTHING" and "ANYONE" for any end game? and I know that those who win the "war" are those that re-right history to delude the masses further from the truth!

Whats even more worrying with "Branson" the fact that he wants so much to build an underground "Space Port" with his Company "Virgin Galactic" this really sucks! $400.000 a pop for a 10 min flight into space? and is getting the US Tax payer to foot the condtruction costs! for this portal?

Ive seen fotage of the Yellowstone park portal and is likned to the Satanic rites! Branson is a "Whore!"

xzonyx.. go figure?

The "Barbaric Briainwashing Cocksuckers (BBC) are NAZIS in sheeps cloathing...

God help us all!

Tim..
xzonyx | 07.12.07 - 3:19 pm | #

Ya know, you have been really on a defeatest attitude lately. This is a pretty big event for the freedom of information.

In addition, we will be able to request more documents that this one connects to.
sane | Homepage | 07.01.07 - 9:17 pm | #

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Yes, I agree, I am completely fucking depressed and disheartened. My apologies if it seems I am trying to bring anyone else into my gloom and doom bullshit. I just trust nothing nor anyone...I have been incapable of humor unless of the noir/gallows variety. Again, my negativity is not pointed at anyone here who is searching for the truth; even the folks with whom I disagree (there are a few). No disrespect intended, I just am completely incredulous and quite hopeless.
What else can I say...party on bro' (assuming you are male, I do not know). Thanks for what you do...as I have said before, I respect and appreciate what you do.
Ron in LA | 07.04.07 - 11:11 pm | #

Soo... Have Ed and Elaine removed themselves from the status of citizen? since citizenship was enstated by lincoln to 'give' african americans rights, and it just got adopted into the rest of our society thus making us second class.... things/entities under the control of those who created citizens... aka congress... so did they? how did they remove themselves from the courts jurisdiction?
there's no explination on this stuff. i'm piecing this slowly together from madddd different sites...
thanks

for the world

Era
Eranonymous | 07.03.07 - 4:36 pm | #

I live in Stoke-on-Trent just a few miles from where the supposed terrorist lives. The hospital he works at is my local hospital and I have been there many times. This area is a very poor area of the country and there are many immigrants living here - some Muslims, some Polish, all sorts of people really. I do not believe a doctor who has a baby boy would throw away all the time and money he spent training to be a doctor, just to take part in some terrorist plot that didn't even work.
gary | 07.02.07 - 3:51 pm | #

death to the elite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

in france we own our governments ass and we aint giving it up to suffer like the poor u.s.

liva la u.s.a!!! rise up!!!!!

we love you

death to the elite!!!!
deathtotheelite | 07.02.07 - 12:44 pm | #

all that CCTV footage of the 2 men & vehicle,but hundreds of CCTV's around Pentagon & we get just 5 frames of a blur of the missile slamming into the Pentagon on 9-11.Hmmmm
randy | 07.01.07 - 11:09 am | #

Gator, you're smoking crack if you think Rue Paul is going to win.

He's one of the biggest moonbats ever born.

LMAO
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 11:27 pm | #
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Moonbat??????????????

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Moonbat (also "barking moonbat" and "moonbat crazy") is a term often used currently in U.S. politics as a political epithet referring to anyone that is liberal or on the left.(12) "Wingnut" (or "right wing nut") is frequently preferred as the analogous epithet aimed at extremists on the political right.[1]

History of use
According to an article by New York Times language maven William Safire, the term was first used by the famous science fiction author Robert A. Heinlein in 1947.[1] Heinlein used the term in a 1947 short story, "Space Jockey", as the name of the third stage of a rocket bound for the moon.

Current use
Today Michelle Malkin uses the term "moonbat" in reference to news reporters that have given money to Democrat Party campaigns. This is used to back up her conspiracy theories of a "liberal media".[WTF Amuzed-this is your best word??? It makes no sense, you got a better definition?](12) According to Safire, "The prevailing put-down of right-wing bloggers is wingnuts; this has recently been countered by the vilification of left-wing partisans who use the Web as moonbats..."[1] The term has come into popular use among a few columnists at the Boston Herald newspaper. Howie Carr uses the term regularly in his columns.[2][3][4][5][6][7] Margery Eagan, another Herald columnist, has used the term several times to characterize some supporters of Democratic governor Deval Patrick,[8][9][10] and Michael Graham has also used the term.[11]
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Amuzed, this term was used by Heinlein [kick ass], the Malkin to describe an absurd and actually contra-reality theory. Now it is used to promote print media as being more genuine than the Internet???

Cool, use the Malkin then Print False SwiftBoat word. "It is like saying Guiliani will never win, he is such a boogedyboo."

Now we know he won't win because he is about to get caught in hiring people to kill apponents. Not presidential candidates, just anyone he thinks threatens him...well the list is getting long and he is bound to get caught the next time he orders a hit.

Calling him a boogedyboo, while funny has no affect without supporting material.

Something you always seem to forget
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 11:56 pm | #

Gator, you're smoking crack if you think Rue Paul is going to win.

He's one of the biggest moonbats ever born.

LMAO
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 11:27 pm | #

Vote for Ron Paul, he's gonna win anyway. We have to take back our country before we all get killed.
Gator | 06.30.07 - 7:01 pm | #

CIA's "Family Jewels" This is a 700 page report detailing illegal and embarrassing activities carried out by the CIA - including assassination plans, and secret drug tests on American citizens. If you think they've given up on these kind of activities, think again.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/127513...s-Family- Jewels
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More...

Unclassified Report: Valerie Plame WAS covert when they outed her When the Bush Administration leaked Valerie Plame's name to journalists, she was covert - this report proves it. They put her life in danger, and the lives of everyone she had done covert business with. Who knows how many died because of their petty desire to get revenge on Joe Wilson?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131682...-they-outed- her
FactSheet: The Vice President's Efforts to Avoid Oversight and Accountability A list of efforts by Dick Cheney shield the activities of his office from public scrutiny.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131681...- Accountability
Amendment to Defund Dick Cheney's Office When an office in the National Archives tried to get Cheney to comply with a records law, he tried to ABOLISH that office. It didn't work. Recently he had a new plan: Claim to be part of the legislative branch, rather than the executive. So, if he's not part of the executive branch, let's defund his office!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131680...-Cheneys- Office
National Intelligence Estimate: The Iraq War The 2007 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on the Iraq War, telling the progress we're making. Summary: NONE.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131679...te-The-Iraq- War
Memo: Niger/Uranium Lies - Bush Administration Knew they were Lies This memo proves that Bush's Niger Uranium story was based upon lies, and that he knew it and used the story anyway as a justification for us to go to Iraq.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131678...-they-were- Lies
Douglas Feith Iraq War Slideshow This is a slideshow used by Doughlas Feith to attempt to convince White House official to invade Iraq. It worked, obviously, but most of the information within has now shown to be either misleading or outright false.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131676...q-War- Slideshow
Fact Sheet on the Firings of U.S. Attorneys House and Senate Investigations Revealed Significant White House Involvement In US Attorney Firings .
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131613...of-US- Attorneys
Bud Cummins Testimony about US Attorney Firings Testimony of Bud Cummins, a US Attorney with positive job performance reviews, fired to make room for Karl Rove's friend Tim Griffin (Who has since resigned over his role in the "caging scandal" - preventing blacks votes from being counted!)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131612...ttorney- Firings
CIA Presidential Briefing April 2004: bin Laden Determined to Strike in US They were warned. This is part of the Presidential Daily Briefing in which Bush was warned that bin Laden wanted to attack us. Even warns of the methods (hijacking airplanes).
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131608...to-Strike-in- US
Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks They were warned. Declassified CIA documents.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131607...d-Other- Attacks
George Bush: Presidential Advance Manual
This manual was written by the Bush Administration as guidelines of what to do before the president arrived. Includes - how to hide protestors so the president doesn't have to see/hear them, and if that doesn't work, how to send your own people as a counter-protest to drown them out and block their view. This is real. There is a transcript of this document at YOURLEADERS.org.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131430...-Advance- Manual
Q & A from Committee for John McKay Fired U.S. Attorney Scandal
http://www.scribd.com/doc/128629...-for-John- McKay
Documents regarding fired U.S. Attorneys - release June 14th, 2007 These are justice department documents subpoena by the House of Representatives John Conyers. Released 6/14/07.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/127517...-June-14th- 2007
Rudolph Giuliani: Vulnerabilities In 1993, the man we now know as "The President of 9/11" was just plain old Rudolph, Giuliani. He is a weirdo, a crook, a wannabe warmonger, and a profiteer off the tragedy of 9/11. But back then, he was just a weirdo, a crook, a cousin-marrying draft-dodger, and a racist. He knew these facts about himself, and commissioned some folks to write a study which would spell out some of his ...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/ 126663...Vulnerabilities
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sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 2:45 pm | #

NOTICE THE SPLIT SCREEN!!!!!

Small window ..."LIVE"

Big window...Raging fire that is a FUCKING LOOP / same timeframe with different cameras to give impression the fire is worse!!!!!!

YOU FUCKERS ARE DOING THE TERRORISTS JOB FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 2:14 pm | #

EDITORIAL: Patriot Act knows no limits
Anti-terror bill used to go after those in Strip club probe

Do FBI agents believe the surviving leaders of the elusive Osama bin Laden terror network have been conducting strategy sessions over take-out tabouli and hummus, while holed up in the basement of the Jaguars Gentleman's Club, owned by Mike Galardi, near Sahara and Interstate 15?
Are there reliable reports of al-Qaida weapons stashes there and at the Cheetah's topless bar, just across the highway and also owned by Mike Galardi, in partnership with his father Jack?
Of course not. The Galardis and their lobbyist, former Clark County Commissioner Lance Malone, are under investigation by federal law enforcement agents who assert the bar owners paid off municipal officials here and in San Diego to create a more favorable regulatory environment for their establishments.
So what on earth were FBI agents thinking when they cited Section 314 of the USA Patriot Act as their grounds for faxing subpoenas to two Las Vegas stockbrokers on Oct. 28, seeking financial information on many of those who have been targeted in the ongoing Galardi probe?
"It's just as the ACLU said from the start," explains Gary Peck, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Nevada. "The Patriot Act, which was originally passed off as dealing solely with terrorism, in fact expands government power in areas that have nothing to do with terrorism."
Critics have warned from the start that provisions in the bill would gut what remains of our financial privacy under the Bill of Rights. The Bush administration responded the new powers were needed to fight Arab terrorists, and would be used sparingly.
The critics responded that once federal agents had these powers, there would be no limiting their application to only those cases where the suspects wear headcloths.
Sure enough, a mere two years after its enactment, the use of the Patriot Act in a case as far from "9-11" terrorism as the Galardi topless bar probe proves the skeptics were right.
The Patriot Act provision "was used appropriately by the FBI and was clearly within the legal parameters of the statute," argues Special Agent Jim Stern, a spokesman for the Las Vegas field office of the FBI.
If that's true, then major portions of this law need to be promptly repealed, unless the high court can get at them and overrule them, first.

aqua teen hunger force comment, the entire unconstitutional act needs to be repealed and its authors JAILED for treason!!!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.30.07 - 2:09 pm | #

SWEEEEEEEEEET......

Hey GE/AOL/News...

You are looping the fucking images.

And you are showing "NEW VIDEO" from the same fucking general area.

You guys are the real terrorists!!!!!!!!

You are terrorizing people on July 4th weekend. How can you call yourselves American??????

Stop terrorizing the world with your NEW VIDEOs showing the same fucking thing in the past.

It is a fucking car on fire you treasonous fucks!!!!!

And the dialog in the backround is so scripted it is hilarious.

Guys, watch the techniques. We will need to know these techniques to discern future false flag, media coordinated propaganda incidents that attempt to rob us of even more freedoms.

They are indicting themselves with the loopiing video and commercial free coverage.

Someone should check if they planned on running any commercials yesterday...

Track the fucking lies.

Who are the program coordinators?

Do they work for the CIA like AC???
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 2:06 pm | #

Big F U to Blair/Bush/Cheney regimes.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 12:50 pm | #

Sane,brother, this was the "red carpet" event for brown (replacing blair) don't you find it "funny" that as soon as moron brown says,"im gonna be tougher than blair" then "BANG" a dude of a car bomb he just wants to feel welcome as the new P.M. of that bastard state called England.
aqua teen hunger force | 06.30.07 - 1:53 pm | #

There is no way it takes 50 firemen 3 hours to put out that fire, either they are being told not to or all the stations are looping the fucking footage. Can anyone verify that this footage is being looped???

Something tells me that all 4 were supossed to go off at the same time and the "news" coverage was already planned, but they do not have enough explosions so they need to loop the same footage.

Can anyone check???
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 1:50 pm | #

Are there any cops with a spine in England or Scotland, erm, No, you spinless fucks, thats why I like Killing Cops
cop-KILLA | 06.30.07 - 12:56 pm | #

Killa,
truth is, there are still a few good people in the law enforcement "community" so you really aren't a "cop-KILLA", you really are a NWO cop killa!!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.30.07 - 1:45 pm | #

ALL THREE CONSPIRATORS...News Corp./GE/AOL-TimeWarner. All three are showing commercial free coverage of a car on fire for a full hour!!!!!
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In this same amount of time time...

At least 100 civilians died in Iraq.

At least 20 civilians died in Afghanistan

At least 10 people were evicted in New Orleans

At least 100 children were denied admission to a US hospital for care

At least 10,000 more Americans are being planned to get fired.

At least 1,000 Tons of poisonous food is being imported from China

At least 10 children are being raped in Halliburton juivenille centers.

At least 1,000 Americans developed cancer from GE/AOL/News Corp blacked out stories.

So watch the fucking car on fire to ease the real pains in this country and the world.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 1:43 pm | #

False Flag

Anyway, Iran is nowhere near a bomb, despite what you’ve heard. They’re years and years away and would stop tomorrow if you gave them a peace guarantee. They tried to do this in ‘03, as you remember. Anyway, they believe — the intelligence community keeps on saying, “There’s no bomb there.” And Cheney keeps on saying to the young briefing officers, “Thank you son, I don’t buy that,” in that nice pleasant tone.
aqua teen hunger force | 06.30.07 - 1:40 pm | #

I love MSNBC/GE/Creator of Death Camp Security Systems talking about the Scotland Jeep.

"They are saying hundreds if not more could have been killed and injured in this terrorist act."

Reality check....

The two guys IN THE FUCKING CAR when it exploded are still alive!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 1:30 pm | #

With all the heat this administration is under (and, finally, a little from our Bozo congressmen ...) the time is ripe for more "false flag" 'terrorism'. Heaven forbid a car with 50 gallons of gas were to explode (although much worse seems to happen everyday now in Iraq) ... maybe the "brave policeman" who put it out was a 'Barney Fife'-type carrying a squirt gun!

With "Presidential Directive #51" in place and fiasco of Bush Sr./W/Cheney's bumbling, criminal misappropriation of The Leo Wanta Settlement (www.worldreports.org), look for bigger and badder operations to happen over here soon. This is one desperate band of crooks ...
John McGuire | 06.30.07 - 1:16 pm | #

Police hunt for London car bomber

Beelzebub Corporation Brainwashing News
Friday, June 29, 2007
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Well they don't have to hunt far, just pop along to the other side of the river from the Parliment Buildings, knock on the door at the MI5 inteligence buildings, [you know, just opposite Strawberry Sundae, the Chunnel Club,] and there you can speak to the Bombers working for the Saxxe Coburg Gotha, who is really behind all the MUrder.
Suprising that just about everybody in the country knows she murdered Diana, but she's not even been questioned.
Are there any cops with a spine in England or Scotland, erm, No, you spinless fucks, thats why I like Killing Cops
cop-KILLA | 06.30.07 - 12:56 pm | #

Does anyone find it amusing that the MI6 cannot even hire competent terrorists? Out of 3 possible terrorist attacks, they have managed to kill or injure NOBODY. They should have got the CIA to do it.
bob dole | 06.30.07 - 12:41 pm | #

They are zero for 4 if you count each London car bomb separately:

Controlled explosion at Ibiza airport
Saturday, 30 Jun 2007 16:16
http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/...rt- $1104947.htm
A suspected Eta bomb has been safely detonated at Ibiza airport after a security alert. Earlier the entire complex was cleared on the Balearic island when Spanish police received a tip-off from Basque newspaper Gara. The newspaper has been traditionally used by separatist group Eta to announce planned attacks. Gara said an anonymous caller had informed it of an "explosive device" at the Spanish island's airport, which has now had all outgoing and incoming flights cancelled for today. Earlier this month Eta announced it was withdrawing from a unilateral ceasefire; one it had previously declared would last forever. But despite the truce last December two people died at Madrid's Barajas airport in an Eta blast. More than 800 people are thought to have died during the group's bloody struggle for an independent Basque state, despite the majority of resident in northern Spain and southern France saying they are content with their already high levels of autonomy.
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CIA-Alqaeda is still pissed that the Madrid bombs had the opposite effect there that it had here and in London. They tried to tie Eta to it in a Gara newspaper to later point the finger and say, "see Eta." Unfortunately, Madrid anti-terror experts already know this trick and use Gara as another of their many warning mechanisms.

Big F U to Blair/Bush/Cheney regimes.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 12:50 pm | #

Car bomb plot likely to be work of Al Qaida

Daily LIES LIES and more fucking LIES Mail
Friday, June 29, 2007
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You better go and interview the Head of Al Quida, Dick Cheney, as he has now been exposed for this as well
cop-KILLA | 06.30.07 - 12:48 pm | #

Weather control and the NWO
http://pesn.com/2005/09/06/96001...r_Modification/
scanner | 06.30.07 - 12:21 pm | #

>>>>Scotland attack was coordinated with the media...

Again as opposed to the C4 at G8, look at a sample of the headlines released within 37 minutes!!!!!

Car On Fire Outside Of Scotland Airport CBS 13, CA - 8 minutes ago (AP) GLASGOW, Scotland Police in Scotland say two cars have crashed outside Glasgow’s international airport, and one of them burst into flames. ...
http://cbs13.com/topstories/ tops..._181112221.html
Burning car crashes into Glasgow, Scotland airport 590 KLBJ News Radio, TX - 16 minutes ago Police in Scotland say two cars have crashed outside Glasgow's international airport, and one of them burst into flames. A police spokeswoman says the cars ...
http://www.590klbj.com/News/Stor...y.aspx? ID=70408
Breaking News: Crash & Explosion at Scotland Airport Stop the ACLU, PA - 12 minutes ago Initial reports say the fire is outside of the building, and that it did not penetrate the airport. The man inside the car “scuffled with police” according ...
http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/...otland-airport/
Car on fire drives into Scottish airport terminal-report Reuters.uk, UK - 33 minutes ago LONDON (Reuters) - A car on fire attempted to drive through the front doors of a terminal at Glasgow airport in Scotland, the BBC reported on Saturday, ...
http://uk.reuters.com/article/ UK...029242120070630
Report: Car on fire outside Glasgow airport | KXNet.com North ... KXMC
http://www.kxmc.com/News/139706.asp
Car rams into Scottish airport terminal - police Reuters India
http://in.today.reuters.com/news...ia-282608- 2.xml
'Car on fire' driven into Glasgow airport Telegraph.co.uk
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/.../ naiport130.xml
Report: Car on fire outside Glasgow airport USA Today - 26 minutes ago GLASGOW, Scotland (AP) — Two cars crashed outside Glascow's international airport Saturday, with one of them bursting into flames, police said. ...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/wor...- saturday_N.htm
Car on fire outside Glasgow airport International Herald Tribune
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2...rport- Crash.php
Report: Cars crash near Glasgow airport Houston Chronicle, United States - 6 minutes ago 2007 AP GLASGOW, Scotland — A driver tried to ram a burning Jeep Cherokee into the main terminal building of Glasgow airport Saturday, ...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story....ld/ 4934555.html
Report: Cars Crash Near Glasgow Airport Los Angeles Times, CA - 8 minutes ago By AP GLASGOW, Scotland -- Two cars crashed outside Glascow's international airport Saturday, with one of them bursting into flames, police said. ...
http://www.latimes.com/news/nati...world- headlines
No confirmation of possible Glasgow airport attack CTV.ca, Canada - 12 minutes ago AP GLASGOW, Scotland -- Police say one of two cars that collided outside Glasgow's international airport have burst into flames. A police spokeswoman says ...
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Articl...70630? hub=World
Report: Car on fire outside Glasgow airport WHO-TV, IA - 7 minutes ago AP - June 30, 2007 11:23 AM ET GLASGOW, Scotland (AP) - Police in Scotland say two cars have crashed outside Glasgow's international airport, ...
http://www.whotv.com/Global/stor...8& nav=menu100_2
Report: Car on fire outside Glasgow airport | KXNet.com North ... Reiten Television KXMB Bismarck, ND - 18 minutes ago AP GLASGOW, Scotland (AP) Police in Scotland say two cars have crashed outside Glasgow's international airport, and one of them burst into flames. ...
http://www.kxmb.com/News/139706.asp
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Take a screen shot, before it gets messed with - 37 fucking minutes and every news agency in the world is at DEFCON 1 !

http://news.google.com/news?q=sc...tland% 20airport

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UPDATE: MSNBC is tying the London Fake Bombs to this incident and saying that US needs to do more to protect its citizens from suck deadly and visious terrorist acts. They sound like Guiliani.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 12:06 pm | #

Larry Scott WXPK62 weather controller, from The Daily Show..enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h? v=QC1UHTKrVrY
scanner | 06.30.07 - 12:05 pm | #

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More on the US Terrorist attempt at the G8 Summit:

U.S. security caught smuggling C4 into Germany G8 Summit, Claimed ...U.S. security caught smuggling C4 into Germany G8 Summit, Claimed They Were Just Testing Security
http://www.roguegovernment.com/n...ews.php? id=2522
US agents try to smuggle C4 into G8 as a "test"US agents try to smuggle C4 into G8 as a "test" ... forced their way into a marine exclusion zone near the G8 summit at Heiligendamm in Germany on Thursday. ...
http://www.gnn.tv/threads/25883/ ...to_G8_as_a_test
LP: Terrorists Attempt Smuggling C4 into G8Get this: the U.S. Security personnel who were caught smuggling C4 into the G8 summit claimed they were just testing the capability of German G8 security. ...
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...i? ArtNum=191119
President Bush misses the G8 Summit.....perhaps it was to miss the ...Stomach bug strikes Bush at G8 summit Published: Friday June 8, ... security by trying to smuggle C4 plastic explosive past a checkpoint at Heiligendamm. ...
http:// www.evolutionofdeception....oiledterror.htm
G8 False Flag Terror Attack Averted?US "security men" attempted to smuggle C4 plastic explosive past checkpoint ... During the Genoa G8 summit in 2001, police planted petrol bombs in schools ...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...g8falseflag.htm
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Of course 20 days later only five links that even remotely mention this blockbuster story compared to just over 24 hours we have over 1,000 stories on TV and in print on the London facade.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 11:39 am | #

Sane (I assume your nickname is ironic)

I am not going to waste my time by responding to your inane posts any more. I am a "truther", but I now see that the MSM is correct in labelling some others who call themselves that foul-mouthed lunatics with intellects that would shame a baboon.

Have a nice day.
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 11:04 am | #
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Feel free to come back when the search for truth is a bigger priority in life than catering to your ego. It should be soon as Cheney seems to have built over 1,000 death camps with Halliburton/GE.

We'll be here unless someone CIA-Suicides us or Ken-Ley-Heart-Attacks us.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 11:16 am | #

I sometimes think that "truthers" can be as callous and vicious as those whom they claim to be morally superior to. Sure, petrol and gas are not high explosives, but then neither are gunpowder or napalm. They all, however, can be as lethal and destructive as high explosive in the "right" circumstances. If the car bomb had gone off (as it seems that it was planned to do) as the nightclub was emptying, can anyone deny that scores, if not hundreds, of people could have been horribly maimed or killed by it? Or wouldn't that matter because whoever planted it couldn't get hold of the high explosives that it seems this blogger requires to stir his moral outrage and compassion for the potential victims?
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 9:13 am | #
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Sentence 1: I sometimes think that "truthers" can be as callous and vicious as those whom they claim to be morally superior to.

This is a misleading opening without any supporting evidence. If the rest of your post read something like the following, then your opening sentence would be completely appropriate:
...I recently saw a "truther" demolish a building using military grade explosives while rescue workers were trying to get victims out. The explosions caused most of the original victims plus the firefighters to die as a pretext to take civil liberties and start unnecessary wars. After this, another "truther" prevented reports on the condition of the area to be released so that the people cleaning up the area are now dying a slow death. In addition, these "truthers" have intimidated, blackmailed, payed of, and KILLED people who have attempted to find out what happened.

Notice how that would validate your opening sentence?????
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Sentence 2: Sure, petrol and gas are not high explosives, but then neither are gunpowder or napalm.

How fucking misleading can you be?? You are well aware this is a technique used to mind fuck people into rationalizing the progression of the system we now have. A system that systematically takes liberty from us which causes an exponential increase in terrorism. The issue with gunpowder is not how highly explosive it is, you disinfo artist. Since when do a billion people use gunpowder to drive a car? Since when is napalm used for anything else but scorcing the Earth and the bodies in its path. You offhandedly compare petrol and gas with banned and tracked substances to "pull a Guiliani" and make these items completely trackable and controllable. So now we can expect all financial records, increased odor surveillance [not used for petrol, but for an assortment of other surveillance], increased illegal police breakins, even further detirioration of civil liberties, etc.
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Sentence 3: If the car bomb had gone off (as it seems that it was planned to do) as the nightclub was emptying, can anyone deny that scores, if not hundreds, of people could have been horribly maimed or killed by it?

Yeah you disinfo agent, anti-terrorism expert Larry Johnson as well as thousands of other anti-terrorism experts can officially deny this worldwide fallacy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h?v=QK5- jIfOBjQ

Where did you study anti-terrorism, from Doug Feith or anyone else at AEI?
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Sentence 4: Or wouldn't that matter because whoever planted it couldn't get hold of the high explosives that it seems this blogger requires to stir his moral outrage and compassion for the potential victims?

Wow, that is a mouthful. How much moral outrage did you have when US black ops were caught at a German checkpoint transporting C4 to the center of the G8 protesters right after Bush left the meeting because he was "suddenly ill?" Gee do ya think the C4 was a little bit more of an issue than gasoline bombs that could only kill an occupant sitting inside the vehicle? Why is there no 24/7 coverage of the US black ops with the C4? Have you even heard about it? London can find out who did this in microseconds with their 4 million cameras. But they are playing it up and the MIC controlled media is LOVING IT!!! Breaking story after breaking story, and not one fucking word about Iraq or Afghanistan. Apparently you care more about propaganda threats than our children that are getting blown to pieces in our wars. Wars that are increasing the terrorism threat.
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Care to post anymore Bullshit on this thread so it can also be ripped to threads????
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 11:13 am | #

I sometimes think that "truthers" can be as callous and vicious as those whom they claim to be morally superior to. Sure, petrol and gas are not high explosives, but then neither are gunpowder or napalm. They all, however, can be as lethal and destructive as high explosive in the "right" circumstances. If the car bomb had gone off (as it seems that it was planned to do) as the nightclub was emptying, can anyone deny that scores, if not hundreds, of people could have been horribly maimed or killed by it? Or wouldn't that matter because whoever planted it couldn't get hold of the high explosives that it seems this blogger requires to stir his moral outrage and compassion for the potential victims?
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 9:13 am | #
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Sentence 1: I sometimes think that "truthers" can be as callous and vicious as those whom they claim to be morally superior to.

This is a misleading opening without any supporting evidence. If the rest of your post read something like the following, then your opening sentence would be completely appropriate:
...I recently saw a "truther" demolish a building using military grade explosives while rescue workers were trying to get victims out. The explosions caused most of the original victims plus the firefighters to die as a pretext to take civil liberties and start unnecessary wars. After this, another "truther" prevented reports on the condition of the area to be released so that the people cleaning up the area are now dying a slow death. In addition, these "truthers" have intimidated, blackmailed, payed of, and KILLED people who have attempted to find out what happened.

Notice how that would validate your opening sentence?????
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Sentence 2: Sure, petrol and gas are not high explosives, but then neither are gunpowder or napalm.

How fucking misleading can you be?? You are well aware this is a technique used to mind fuck people into rationalizing the progression of the system we now have. A system that systematically takes liberty from us which causes an exponential increase in terrorism. The issue with gunpowder is not how highly explosive it is, you disinfo artist. Since when do a billion people use gunpowder to drive a car? Since when is napalm used for anything else but scorcing the Earth and the bodies in its path. You offhandedly compare petrol and gas with banned and tracked substances to "pull a Guiliani" and make these items completely trackable and controllable. So now we can expect all financial records, increased odor surveillance [not used for petrol, but for an assortment of other surveillance], increased illegal police breakins, even further detirioration of civil liberties, etc.
__________________________
Sentence 3: If the car bomb had gone off (as it seems that it was planned to do) as the nightclub was emptying, can anyone deny that scores, if not hundreds, of people could have been horribly maimed or killed by it?

Yeah you disinfo agent, anti-terrorism expert Larry Johnson as well as thousands of other anti-terrorism experts can officially deny this worldwide fallacy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h?v=QK5- jIfOBjQ

Where did you study anti-terrorism, from Doug Feith or anyone else at AEI?

More coming...
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 10:58 am | #

As for the callousness and viciousness of some "truthers", I think I need point no further than your posts for supporting evidence .
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 10:55 am | #

""I sometimes think that "truthers" can be as callous and vicious as those whom they claim to be morally superior to."

This is a misleading opening without any supporting evidence. "

Would you care to inform me how I can give supporting evidence about what I sometimes think. Would a brain scan satify you, perhaps?
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 10:42 am | #

I will check back in later. I need to go help build concentration camp #801.
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 10:42 am | #

LOL, so troofers are terrorists blowing up buildings and killing people?

SANE!

I never thought you would admit it!
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 10:40 am | #

I knew you would eventually admit that I tell the truth.
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 10:29 am | #

Wake the fuck up!
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 10:20 am | #

Amuzed, how ya been?

Are you saying you wish to use facts, logic, evidence, and references today???

AWESOME!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 10:24 am | #

Sane

Would you care to elaborate what in my statement you think isn't true? Then I can respond.

David Stanley

You don't think that the London car bombs should have been reported????????
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 10:24 am | #

A: it is irrelevant to the potential victim if he/she gets horribly maimed or killed by a high explosive or an incendiary bomb. B: if you think that all Jihadists are ready to make the ultimate sacrifice of their own lives when this is not necessary for the success of a particular operation, then I'm afraid that you are sadly misinformed and you need to do some research.
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 10:15 am | #
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Ok shithead, what the fuck are you talking about?

Of course the terrorists do not make the ultimate sacrifice...that is why Dick Cheney and Henry Kissinger are still alive you moron!
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 10:22 am | #

Damn sane, your good! You can post messages on reader comments 34 and 37, at the same time! Bravo!
Scanner | 06.30.07 - 10:11 am | #
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You don't know all the other sites I am posting to also at the same time
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 10:19 am | #

Damn sane, your good! You can post messages on reader comments 34 and 37, at the same time! Bravo!
Scanner | 06.30.07 - 10:11 am | #

Another report with anonymous sources. That isn't a report.

I do agree the public should be vigilant, take their cameras out and cover what is going on. Even former cabinet members have referred to the Metropolitan Police as a fiction factory, what they are up to should be scrutinised and recorded.

In response to a prior poster on what is and isn't an explosive, it would certainly be devisive to treat this incident in isolation. The UK, US and other allies have illegally invaded and occupied foreign nations, torturing and murdering their people. The bombs and butchery continue, and in such circumstances I don't think a car in London is newsworthy.

If London were seriously attacked, by whoever, this is likely to be the consequence of Anglo American foreign policy. I think sufficient evidence of that fact has been reported on this site, indeed failure to contest this as prisonplanet has done, would in principle be a war crime.
David Stanley | 06.30.07 - 10:05 am | #

The UN should declare Mars to be earth property an begin to auction individual plots of land. It's almost all mapped out anyway with coordinates. Then they could auction off neighboring solar systems, star clusters, even galaxies. How much for the black hole at the middle of the Milky Way?
Don't laugh.
pc | 06.30.07 - 9:01 am | #
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Whose laughing:

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These fuckers are way ahead of us in reality than we are in fantasy...WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 10:01 am | #

Sounds more like a punk who got carded at the club or an unpaid debt to extorsionists. More to fear out of Black ops trained crazy dudes with a pistol than car bomb rookie.
Nice car though seemed like a premium car to be using as a bomb.
A real terrorists would have committed suicide to ensure destruction and devastation so the fact that they didn't explode with people inside excludes any real Extremists right?
Starmadillo | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 9:53 am | #

Small bomb goes off at Spain's Ibiza airport
Sat Jun 30, 2007 08:40 AM EDT
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070...m/ spain_bomb_dc

Spain's Ibiza airport evacuated on bomb alert: report
Sat Jun 30, 2007 08:30 AM EDT
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/ 20070...n_evacuation_dc
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 8:49 am | #

>>>>>Bomb explodes at Spain's Ibiza Airport
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 8:45 am | #

What happened to the photo that was with this story when I looked at it earlier today? Why would Prison Planet remove a photo?
Giordan Smith | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 8:40 am | #

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm...CA& chanID=sa003
Designer Enzyme Cuts HIV Out of Infected Cells
Bacterial enzyme turns the tables on deadly retrovirus
By JR Minkel

Scientists have constructed a custom enzyme that reverses the process by which the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) inserts its genetic material into host DNA, suggesting that treatment with similar enzymes could potentially rid infected cells of the virus. In tests on cultured human tissue, the mutated enzyme, Tre recombinase, snipped HIV DNA out of chromosomes.

The NWO Bastards that created HIV are going to love this!
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 6:56 am | #

We can always spot the NWO bunch when they speak of the directions.
Remember when Rummy said that Husain's wheapons of mass destruction were " East, West, South and North of Baghdad?
Gorbachev used the same phrase. Bush and his Father have also. A Clinton has.
It always starts with the East.
The rising Sun.
Most people say, North South East and West.
The NWO bunch say East. West. South and North.
East, the rising Sun and North is for War.
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 6:46 am | #

If we go back and look at the countries that the U.S. CIA has meddled with since 1933.
We find that on every occasion, that country has not been under the control of the International Bankers.
The countries that the U.S. is targeting today are free of the Banks.
This unrest today in the world is not to protect the interest of the American People, it is to expand the dominance of the International Bankers.
The American People have been duped for a very long time. The People of America, Canada and Europe have been and are being used for world dominance. Fact.
These One World Government People have spent a very long time and a lot of OUR wealth to get to the point they are at today.
They can see the prize of world dominance in sight. Almost in their grasp.
If the people of this world do not wake up and fight against these people very soon, it will be too late.
How can they sell a E.U. to the people of Europe?
Now it is North Americas turn.
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 6:15 am | #

The London Bomb Scare Crap is Totally NWO BS!
Some one please Shoot those Assholes at The News Media for Spinning NWO BULLSHIT!
Lets see what the Sex Pistol Said in a Song they Did
SEX PISTOLS LYRICS

Song title > "God Save The Queen"

God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb
God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming
Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems
Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid
When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dust bin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, you're future
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future
For you

I Guess That Sums it up Best For those Living in the UK , Keep being Stupid & Believe what Your Gov tells you & there will be NO FUTURE FOR YOU!
Wake up you Stupid English Fools!
TIME TO WAKE UP!!!!!!!!
doctor No NWO | 06.30.07 - 6:06 am | #

I work in that area and have had lunch in the Tiger Tiger nightclub a few times (by day a trendy middle class lunch venue, by night a popstar haunt with plenty of coloureds).

This story is something out of nothing - I've addressed this in the FC Blog accessible at www.politicalsoldier.net

All power to Alex Jones and this superb web-site!

Don't believe the Neo-Con lies!!!!
Final Conflict | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 5:51 am | #

Fascism

Doctrine; collection of concepts; and dictatorship by government of a country, often involving hostile nationalistic attitudes and private economic ownership under rigid government control. A fascist regime is often militarily belligerent.
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 5:44 am | #

fascism:
Definition: politics of dictatorship.
Antonyms: democracy.
1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
2. (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice. The term fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Benito Mussolini in Italy (1922-43), and the regime of the Nazis in Germany were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
In the post-war period, the term has been used, often prefixed by ‘neo’, to describe what are viewed as successors to these movements.
" neocons"
Genuinely fascist ideologies are: monist, that is to say, based upon the notion that there are fundamental and basic truths about humanity and the environment which do not admit to question; simplistic, in the sense of ascribing complex phenomena to single causes and advancing single remedies; fundamentalist, that is, involving a division of the world into ‘good’ and ‘bad’ with nothing in between; and conspiratorial, that is, predicated on the existence of a secret world-wide conspiracy by a hostile group seeking to manipulate the masses to achieve and/or maintain a dominant position.
In content, these ideologies are distinguished by five main components.
1. Extreme nationalism, the belief that there is a clearly defined nation which has its own distinctive characteristics, culture, and interests, and which is superior to others.
2.An assertion of national decline—that at some point in the mythical past the nation was great, with harmonious social and political relationships, and dominant over others, and that subsequently it has disintegrated, become internally fractious and divided, and subordinate to lesser nations.
3. This process of national decline is often linked to a diminution of the racial purity of the nation. In some movements the nation is regarded as co-extensive with the race (the nation race), while in others, hierarchies of races are defined generically with nations located within them (the race nation); in virtually all cases, the view is taken that the introduction of impurities has weakened the nation and been responsible for its plight.
4. The blame for national decline and/or racial miscegenation is laid at the door of a conspiracy on the part of other nations/races seen as competing in a desperate struggle for dominance
5.In that struggle, both capitalism and its political form, liberal democracy, are seen as mere divisive devices designed to fragment the nation and subordinate it further in the world order.
With regard to prescriptive content, the first priority is the reconstitution of the nation as an entity by restoring its purity. The second is to restore national dominance by reorganizing the polity, the economy, and society. Means to this end include variously: (1) the institution of an authoritarian and antiliberal state dominated by a single party; (2) total control by the latter over political aggregation, communication, and socialization; (3) direction by the state of labour and consumption to create a productionist and self-sufficient economy; and (4) a charismatic leader embodying the ‘real’ interests of the nation and energizing the masses. With these priorities fulfilled, the nation would then be in a position to recapture its dominance, if necessary by military means.

Such priorities were explicit in the inter-war fascist movements, which indulged in racial/ethnic ‘cleansing’, established totalitarian political systems, productionist economies, and dictatorships, and of course went to war in pursuit of international dominance. But such parties can no longer openly espouse these extremes, and national/racial purity now takes the form of opposition to continuing immigration and demands for repatriation; totalitarianism and dictatorship have been replaced by lesser demands for a significant strengthening in the authority of the state, allegedly within a democratic framework; productionism has become interventionism; and military glory has been largely eschewed.

Looks like America today.
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 5:26 am | #

As german news-site heise.de reports the following agreement was made:

- the amount of data-records per passenger is reduced from 34 to 19, but the effective amount of data remains the same as some records were combined (i.e. Street, Zip, City, Country to one Field "Contact-Information")

- duration of data-storage is now 15 years (was 3.5 years), wereas Michael Chertoff first wanted 50 years!

- German Minister of the Interior Wolfgang Schaeuble stated, that this agreement was low priority and that the german government also would have left the data-transfer unregulated.

- Minister Schaeuble now plans a similar system of data-retention about flight-passengers within the EU
mrworf | 06.30.07 - 4:48 am | #

I know you didn't ask that question, and, up to a point, I was, in fact, agreeing with you that no self-respecting alien would want to shake hands with George Bush or quite probably any other world "leader". However, I certainly disagree with you that aliens would have no interest in observing this planet, with particular concern for the mess that it is in. Perhaps they want to make sure that we don't eventually spread into space and eventually do to them what the US is now doing to Iraq, or perhaps (to be rather more pessimistic) they are sizing us up for invasion. At any rate, I hardly think they would just ignore us.

Peace to you.
Alouet | 06.29.07 - 5:18 pm | #

Dear Alouet,
must confront this~~
Perhaps they want to make sure that we don't eventually spread into space and eventually do to them what the US is now doing to Iraq, or perhaps (to be rather more pessimistic) they are sizing us up for invasion
I don't think they are planning on invasion, But I do think that if they are from "out there" somewhere, they are more concerned with making sure we don't poison their "space"

They prolly don't conduct warfare anyway, which would make sense because if they were warriors, they would have attacked LONG ago, before we invented those pesky lil nukes!!!
Peace to you "up north"
aqua teen hunger force | 06.30.07 - 4:31 am | #

Another LIe Repeater story puked from the arse of the globalist press shit-stains.

We don't beleive you, cos you told to many lies you stupid fucking pukers.
Fuck off with your bullshit. Who gives a fuck.
You will start dieng soon cos i've had enough of you lie-repeaters.
cop-KILLA | 06.29.07 - 7:59 pm | #

COP-KILLA,
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO SPEAK AND WRITE ENGLISH?
DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL TOUGH USING SUCH FOUL LANGUAGE?
YOU NEED TO PURGE YOURSELF OF THAT FOUL MOUTHED DEMON!
GOD | 06.30.07 - 4:21 am | #

We still hold about 60 percent of the land, but the bankers will move to take that from US! Thus, we cannot grow crops and raise cattle and sheep to feed and clothe ourselves. Land and private property are not only the sources of wealth; they are the sources of human survival and freedom. WWIII will cause just the terror needed to make every man, woman and child in America cling to government for protection. Then, our government will morph into the North American Union and eventually into the New World Order envisioned and created by the bankers.

We still have the power to stop all this. We are presently cooperating with the very organized criminals who are planning to enslave US. All we need to do is two things: first, organize and second, "DIS-COOPERATE!" Gandhi and King called this "civil disobedience." We are so much more entangled with our almighty central government that when we resist, we can bring this huge house of cards crashing down!
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 4:08 am | #

If the government fears resistance, then that is precisely what we should give them. If they fear organized citizens, then that's precisely what we should form. Do you now understand why Christianity and its religion and churches are under constant attack from the IRS branch of government? Americans are already organized through their churches. Do you now understand why we need a "separation of church and state" in order to preclude an organized voice? Why shouldn't churches mobilize a national religious protest against an immoral, mass-murdering, criminal and constitutionally-illegitimate government? Do you now understand why we need "hate crimes?" Freedom of speech MUST BE STOPPED!!!!
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 4:07 am | #

http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=0
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 1:47 am | #

man, scary true. word.
anonymous | 06.30.07 - 12:04 am | #

You will start dieng soon cos i've had enough of you lie-repeaters.
cop-KILLA | 06.29.07 - 7:59 pm | #

I wanna strap em to a wall and let 1000 people use em for dartboards.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 8:05 pm | #

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=25151#102219

there.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 8:01 pm | #

US urges vigilance after London incident

Associated Propoganda Press, lieing for the IllumiNAZI
Friday, June 29, 2007
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Another LIe Repeater story puked from the arse of the globalist press shit-stains.

We don't beleive you, cos you told to many lies you stupid fucking pukers.
Fuck off with your bullshit. Who gives a fuck.
You will start dieng soon cos i've had enough of you lie-repeaters.
cop-KILLA | 06.29.07 - 7:59 pm | #

is why I said what I did about ron paul earlier. he's been in DC like 40 years, knows who's good and bad, and pussyfoots around about the real stuff. its a SHAM.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 7:59 pm | #

well sure the surge is creating even more soldiers deaths, its giving halliburton/KBR/blackwater more human shields to hide behind !! theres 200,000 troops there and 100,000 blackwater mercenaries doing anything they want without oversight or accountability MAKING "insurgents" HATE and KILL American soldiers. if our soldiers had any sense theyed declare war on BLACKWATER!!
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 7:35 pm | #
____________________

Step 1: Engage in an unneccessary war

Step 2: Use the war fallout to create a greater psyche of domestic fear and recruit more patsies

Step 3: Engage in false flag terrorism as a pretext for more unneccessary wars

Step 4: Repeat Steps 2 and 3 until there are only 50 million left for the elites to rule over.

1, 2, 3 What are we fighting for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...h? v=LBdeCxJmcAo
Anonymous | 06.29.07 - 7:49 pm | #

“No man is an island, apart from the main.”
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 5:32 pm | #

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well sure the surge is creating even more soldiers deaths, its giving halliburton/KBR/blackwater more human shields to hide behind !! theres 200,000 troops there and 100,000 blackwater mercenaries doing anything they want without oversight or accountability MAKING "insurgents" HATE and KILL American soldiers. if our soldiers had any sense theyed declare war on BLACKWATER!!
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 7:35 pm | #

SURGE CREATES LARGEST US DEATH TOLL DURING THE ENTIRE IRAQ WAR

Iraq Ambush Caps Bloodiest Months for US
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu.../20070629/iraq/
BAGHDAD — A huge bomb explosion followed by a hail of gunfire and grenades killed five U.S. soldiers, the military said Friday. The attack came as the Pentagon tallied up the deadliest three-month period for Americans since the war began.

Seven soldiers were wounded in the attack Thursday in the Rasheed district, a mixed Sunni-Shiite area of southern Baghdad where U.S.-led forces recently stepped up pressure on extremists. The commander of U.S. forces in Baghdad suggested the ambush could be part of an escalating backlash by Sunni insurgents.

Those deaths brought to 99 the number of U.S. troops killed this month, according to an Associated Press count. The toll for the past three months _ 329 _ made it the deadliest quarter for U.S. troops in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion. That surpasses the 316 soldiers killed during November 2004 to January 2005.
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 6:32 pm | #

We get the government we deserve, and this government does not care for us, it cares only for itself and the private, global, corporate interest it represents.
BG | 06.29.07 - 5:40 pm |

same story in the US nowadays too. all bullshit.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 6:02 pm | #

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It is the case worldwide. If we continue to buy into the corporate entity as a being with rights we are all going ot die! Corporations need to be severely limited in their rigths and powers!
peace
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 6:09 pm | #

OOOh, isn't it great we have CCTV..paramedics at the right place, the right time. Traffic wardens (Nazi's in uniforms), doing their civil duty..doesn't it all fit nicely, he?

And ooooh, BBC news reports that in the last 5 mins the news just has enough time to report on the fact that one of the cars has "just" been inspected! Wow, are we glad the BBC is there at the right time, too..

It's all conveniently timed as a means of scarring the crap out of UK Citizens. Those citizens have put up with terrorism for years - this is nothing new. What is new, is the realisation that the terrorists may wear suits.

And let's now talk about London returning to "normal"..normal as in mayhem. The same for most of England. Normality here is crime, overcrowding, low wages and long hours, high taxes, pathetic lack of investment in education and health. Every single day in this country our citizens are being raped, robbed and murdered..try walking these streets; CCTV won't be there to help you whilst you're being killed..it will just pay to keep lawyers in jobs after the event. The media doesn't give a toss unless there's potential for spin, as demonstrated by the overwhelming focus on white-on-black crime despite statistics that paint a completely reversed representation. Fact is, this country is at war - if you are a UK citizen you are at war with the criminals on the streets, and the criminals in Whitehall.

So tell us something we don't know - tell us about a 'threat' to our already threatening environment. All the government is interested in is justifying it's own horrid behaviour and that is why we see timed events such as this.

We get the government we deserve, and this government does not care for us, it cares only for itself and the private, global, corporate interest it represents.
BG | 06.29.07 - 5:40 pm | #

My contribution to the UFO truths:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h? v=UbPR1yI3XSI

Proof they exist // And NASA keeping the truth from us.

Cover up // Hush up // Shut up // 7 UP // Don't even bother getting up -- Yet another TRUTH being kept from us.
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 5:39 pm | #

The lonely American
Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:08:00

By Gaither Stewart (http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/ article_2101.shtml)
Each day I watch the TV news images of American soldiers on the streets of Baghdad and wonder if the same images are shown in the United States. If they are shown, I wonder why the people do not rise up in revolt. Each day I feel a deep sympathy for the infinite loneliness of the American soldier in Iraq.
The soldier in dust-colored camouflage uniform and helmet, his bullet-proof vest (not really bullet- proof and certainly not bomb-proof, as I see each day: five of them died yesterday in Baghdad alone), brandishing his automatic weapon, standing alone at a Baghdad checkpoint, an empty look on his face (though he is terrified and wonders how he got into this chaos), surrounded by a world he does not understand, by people speaking a language he does not understand, in the middle of a war he does not understand, this bewildered American seems to be the loneliest man in the world.

Because I am an American, I watch this soldier sadly. I think that there stands the emblem of America’s isolation in the world. And I think also that something is dreadfully wrong in a country that still has a supply of volunteers to go to the deserts to kill strangers with super weapons and drop firebombs on cities from invisible planes in the stratosphere . . . and with a 10 percent chance of being killed themselves for the worst possible reasons.

Beyond politics, beyond the questions of war and peace, I wonder about Americans in general, so lonely in the universe. A whole people feeling the loneliness you feel behind locked doors. Behind walls. A kind of vacancy. What is it that other people have and we Americans do not? Or what do Americans have that others do not? Why are Americans different? I do not believe it was always that way. But it is today. And it is a mystery.

Recently I began asking friends in Italy where I have lived for over three decades those questions. Italians say that Americans are spoiled; they have it too good; they haven’t suffered enough. Europeans often think of Americans as children, difficult children, with a childlike air of impregnability about them, whom real life has not yet touched.

But there is no clear answer. Europeans do not understand my questions. I think my questions are not clear. Few Europeans admit that they consider Americans fundamentally different from other human beings. Few admit to anti-Americanism. For most people in the world we all belong to the same species. We are all just men. We all must aspire to feeling a oneness with the world.

Still, old friends in Europe occasionally ask me what I as an American think about one thing or another. They ask because they see how different things are in America. What do I think about ordinary things like national health services and pension plans, about unemployment compensation and welfare, about electoral systems and democracy? How is it possible, some ask, that America’s powerful presidents are elected by a minority? Very often they ask about the death penalty, non-existent in Europe. Today in these times, the most frequent questions concern war.

Now, some Americans might believe my answers to such questions are obvious: that of course I as a progressive favor a national health service for America, pension plans, unemployment compensation, welfare, immigrants, a multiparty political system, democracy, oppose capital punishment and reject war.

Still, that is not my point, either. I believe Europeans really want to ask what is wrong with America. Not wrong in the ethical sense of right and wrong. But wrong as in astray, as in to go wrong, But they do not know how to frame the question. They too speak of the differences of the nation of America but I believe that without realizing it they too want to know why Americans as individuals are different from other peoples.

What is missing in Americans? For example, what do Mexican people have that Americans lack?

When I settled in Europe in the sixties, Americans were still broadly well received throughout the continent; America still had a lot of credit for its help in World War II and for the Marshall Plan, although already then admiration was mixed with envy and resentment at American success and arrogance. Here I should say straight away that Americans were then well received except by part of the skeptical European Left that, as it turned out, was right in its suspicions.

The pre-Vietnam years were still good years for Americans. America was leading the “free world” alliance against the Soviet Union: Moscow’s quashing of the Hungarian revolution in 1956 and the Prague rebellion in 1968 covered America’s spreading dark spots in matters like Watergate, the crushing of democracy in Latin America and the growing involvement in Vietnam. The existence of the “evil” Soviet Union and the Cold War gave America’s rulers a free hand as it did for another two decades.

Though as a rule most governments lie to the governed, it was precisely the great Cold War lie that poisoned America and Americans. For it was a lie. In the name of anti-Communism, everything was permitted. Everything was justified in the same way everything is permitted today in the name of anti-terrorism. America was good. God was on America’s side. Few Americans doubted. My generation hardly even considered the question of right or wrong, of good or evil. Everything was clear: Communism and the Soviet Union were evil; America was blessed by God.

The most virulent anti-Communist propaganda filled the eighties: nuclear warfare scares, statistics and testimony showing that Communism’s conquest of the world was imminent; Soviet military-economic power was a terrible thing. What a surprise then for the Soviet experts that at the end of that same decade the Berlin Wall fell and overnight the whole shebang collapsed. It was a paper tiger.

Yet, by then more Europeans had begun doubting the state of American democracy. The category of skeptics broadened. Vietnam and American support of dictatorships from Chile to Nicaragua, from Iran to the Philippines, eroded doubts among many Europeans in whose minds America was now becoming the “empire of evil.” In America, dissident voices were labeled anti-American, Communist traitors -- and today, terrorists.

In Europe today, it is no longer a question of what reactionary Washington labels the European Left’s “visceral anti-Americanism.” The sad reality is that antipathy to this America has infected many if not most Europeans.” Now it has become a question of right and wrong, of good and evil.

Though most Americans believe in the myth of their democracy, European polls show an America far down the list of developed democracies. The criteria have to do with electoral systems (no one understands the American system!), political representation, the distribution of real powers, etc. For example, surprise, surprise, Germany’s democratic parliamentary system stands at the top of many lists.

Some Americans reductively think anti-Americanism is a question of hate and envy of America. But it is not true. It is my experience and the opinion of Italians, or French, or Dutch, or Germans, or Danes, that the quality of life in Europe is simply much higher than in America perennially preoccupied with comfort and ease. This is not to say that Europeans are not greedy and avaricious for creature comforts. On the contrary. They are. Yet, because of social correctors within the market economy, because of the social state, the poor in Europe are less poor than in America. Can any sane person believe Europe is craving for fast food joints and endless shopping malls and national flags and advertising banners waving everywhere and God on the lips of its fundamentalist leaders? Is this the progress America wants to export and go to war for?

The truth is Europeans see America as the land where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. They see a government that does little for its citizens in a land where the word social is taboo. And God has nothing to do with it.

Nor is it true, as many Americans might like to think, that Europeans want to be like them. Italian emigration to the USA? No more! Many Italians visit America or go to shop there -- everything costs less with European currency since the dollar has been artificially devalued in order to make Europe pay for the war in Iraq. But today I know no Italian who would like to live in America. But I know many Americans who would like to live in Italy. Though it is true that a tiny minority of Europeans still hold to America and imitate it, they are not the best of Europeans.

Perhaps never before have the differences between Americans and Europeans been greater. But why? What is it? Who is at fault? Why this gulf?
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 5:33 pm | #

Politics and economics and peace and war apart, I believe it is a question of Americans’ uncertain place in the human race. When I write here Americans, I admit I have in mind white conservative Americans of European heritage of the great American heartland. And also those who spend so much time speaking of tolerance and trying to decide which politically correct label to attach to Blacks and Indians and Latinos -- as if “African American” and “Indigenous American” and “Hispanic American” made things right. It is my experience that the majority of these Americans are not on the same wavelength as other people in the world.

Oh, the accused will gasp and say how naïve! How anti-American! How narrow-minded! How prejudiced! The fact remains that as human beings Latin Americans are on the same wavelength as other people in the world. Russians are. Arabs are. Asians are. Most black Americans and Latinos and Indians are.

So why not most white Americans? Many will be surprised -- though they shouldn’t be -- to hear that they are regarded in some of Europe in the same way they are among the ghettos of blacks and browns in LA or Miami or New York City.

And their government is largely at fault.

Their government, their society, and their lonely culture.

American tourists today cut pitiful figures traipsing curiously around Europe, seeing only quaintness and cuteness and condescendingly trying to imitate. They make countless digital snapshots but never quite get the real picture. As if living a year in a Tuscan village were bridging the gap. The local people will drink wine with you. They will reach out to you. They will try to love you. They want to be able to feel the real you. To feel that you are like them.

But, I fear, they will never understand you or even grasp why you are there. For Americans are a people of many emotions and sensations but embarrassed by feelings.

Even more. Such false relationships are symbolic of the more profound differences, the chasm separating Americans from the rest of the world. How, the European wonders, can a citizen of the leading power of the civilized world support the death penalty? Just think about that one point for a moment. How can you explain legalized state murder to a person who considers it barbarous?

Or, the average European wonders, how can a majority of voters in the land of freedom support a system dedicated to crushing freedom? How can citizens of the land of democracy vote for a government that sponsors dictatorships around the world and calls them democracy? How can a democratic nation exist in a political system of two parties, which though they have different points of departure and programs, in power are so similar as to form a one-party system? How can a people ready to go to war to export democracy sacrifice its own democracy in the process?

The mystery is why a majority of Americans who bother to vote sustain a government that fears and hates democracy and its own Constitution as ours does? Why are Americans as chained to their leaders as convicts are chained to their guards? And why do they tolerate a government that needs a wall around America?

Which leads inevitably to the danger of the gradual but inevitable degeneration of an enduring ideology based on anti-Communism, anti-Socialism, anti-terrorism, all of course with God’s special blessing and protection, straight into Fascism.

One could think that Americans are retiring from the world. That they have forgotten the rest of the human species. That they no longer even have the same weaknesses and strengths of other people. That they stand outside even themselves. Outside, and alone.

People from the prison of the former Soviet Union were once like that -- when they were let out they saw the rest of the world with astonished eyes.

I have not answered my question. I still do not know if I have posed the question correctly. We Americans want brief and concise answers to clear questions. Maybe that in itself is part of my point.

I feel ill at ease writing this. I am uncertain. I am sad. I am not objective. But life is not objective. Life is not accommodation. Life is not concise. Human life cannot be reduced to a few precise sentences. Life is not a short short story. Life is past, present and future.

Yet, Americans are different. In a negative sense. My gut feeling is that it is due to a lack of real connections with the rest. No wonder the national paranoia. No wonder America’s sense of loneliness.

Hopefully, Americans will begin to search for their lost kinship with the rest. For it will always be true as the English poet John Donne wrote, “No man is an island, apart from the main.”
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 5:32 pm | #

Lyne - Occult Science Dictatorship - The Official State Science Religion and How To Get Excommunicat
http://www.scribd.com/doc/69283/...- Excommunicated
...religious scientific thought-control zombies, who have fallen victim to the pressure to believe the science that Big Brother wants them to. In Occult Ether Physics (1997, 1998 ), Space Aliens From the Pentagon (1993, 1996), and Pentagon Aliens (1999), I expounded on and documented the most important discovery in science, Nikola Tesla's electrodynamic space propulsion. Tesla and his work were literally burie...

[conspiracy] Battles Beneath The Earth
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63611/...neath-The- Earth
...he public has been kept in total darkness about the reality of UFOs and 'aliens', is that the truth of the matter actually exists TOO CLOSE TO HOME TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT. How could a spokesman for the Pentagon dare admit that five or ten thousand feet underground EXISTS AN ENTIRE WORLD THAT IS 'FOREIGN' TO A BELIEF STRUCTURE WE HAVE HAD FOR CENTURIES? How could, for example, our fastest bomber be any challe...

Cooper, Milton William - The Ufo Conspiracy
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63654/...-Ufo- Conspiracy
...e you they're minor ones, if I have. "We have just recently, for those of you who didn't believe that the Jason Society of the Jason Scholars, the secret group, existed, we now have a letter from the Pentagon, with 51 names of the Jason Scholars, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold the highest security clearances in the nation, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold the protocol rank of...
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 5:32 pm | #

Terminator Seed Ban Proposed In Canada
When you buy some seeds, you own all of the plants descended from those seeds, right? Don't be so sure.
Sane,
Links please sir
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 4:50 pm | #

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Sc...sp? NewsNum=1073

Ya gotta love the visual!
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 5:27 pm | #

IF YOU HAD THE TECHNOLOGY TO TRAVEL LIKE THEY DO,(WHOMEVER 'THEY' ARE)
WOULD YOU COME TO THIS FILTHY PLANET?? OR, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME!!!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 4:57 pm | #

Michael Tarsion [sic] has an interesting answer to your question.

Also it is pretty well established that the elites love creating alien hoaxes.

Read Pentagon Aliens and Look into Mauri's Story:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6776/L...Pentagon- Aliens
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 5:25 pm | #

Just got done watching Dream Girls (Eddie's best acting role) and they mentioned that Elvis Presley's Hound Dog was stolen from an R&B Singer in one of the many deceptions that take place in the musc industry.

Here is an excerpt from the last year she was alive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...related& search=

Here is the original hound dog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...related& search=

Just pointing out all the industries these fuckers control to deceive us and create more tools for blackmail and corruption.

Enjoy!
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 5:21 pm | #

Calm down Patrick/aqua teen hunger force. I know you didn't ask that question, and, up to a point, I was, in fact, agreeing with you that no self-respecting alien would want to shake hands with George Bush or quite probably any other world "leader". However, I certainly disagree with you that aliens would have no interest in observing this planet, with particular concern for the mess that it is in. Perhaps they want to make sure that we don't eventually spread into space and eventually do to them what the US is now doing to Iraq, or perhaps (to be rather more pessimistic) they are sizing us up for invasion. At any rate, I hardly think they would just ignore us.

Peace to you.
Alouet | 06.29.07 - 5:18 pm | #

The Global Elite: Who are they?

There are two common misconceptions held by those who are critical of globalism. The first error is that there is a very small group of people who secretly run the world with all-powerful and unrestrained dictatorial powers. The second error is that there is a large amorphous and secret organization that runs the world. In both cases, the use of the word "they" becomes the culprit for all our troubles, whoever "they" might be. If taxes go up, it is "they" that did it. If the stock market goes down, "they" are to blame. Of course, nobody really knows who "they" are so a few figureheads (people or organizations) are often made out to be the scapegoats.

Depending on a person's politics and philosophy, the scapegoats could be the U.S. President, the ACLU, the Ford Foundation, or Vladimir Putin. The point is, the real power structure is not correctely defined, and thus escapes exposure. These misconceptions are understandable because when things are wrong, we all have a driving need to know who to blame! In some cases, elitist slight-of-hand initiates and then perpetuates false assumptions. This writer has never been accused of charging that all large corporations are guilty of initiating and perpetuating globalization. There are many businesses, including banks, who are led by moral, ethical and good-hearted businessmen or businesswomen. Just because a company might touch globalism does not mean it and its management or employees are evil.

Every bit of thirty-five years of research indicates that there is a relatively small yet diverse group of global players who have been the planners and instigators behind globalization for many decades. The primary driving force that moves this "clique" is greed; the secondary force is the lust for power. In the case of the academics who are key to globalism, a third force is professional recognition and acceptance (a subtle form of egoism and power.) It is also important to understand that core globalists have full understanding of their goals, plans and actions. They are not dimwitted, ignorant, missinformed or naive.

The global elite march in three essential columns: Corporate, Political and Academic. For the sake of clarity, these names will be used herein to refer to these three groups.In general, the goals for globalism are created by Corporate. Academic then provides studies and white papers that justify Corporate's goals. Political sells Academic's arguments to the public and if necessary, changes laws to accommodate and facilitate Corporate in getting what it wants.

An important ancillary player in globalism is the media, which we will call Press in this report. Press is necessary to filter Corporate, Academic and Political's communications to the public. Press is not a fourth column, however, because it's purpose is merely reflective. However, we will see that Press is dominated by members of Corporate, Political and Academic who sit on the various boards of directors of major Press organizations.This report will attempt to identify and label the core players in the globalization process. The intent is to show the makeup and pattern of the core, not to list every person in it. Nevertheless, many people will be named and their associations and connections revealed. This is done for two reasons.

First, it will equip the reader be able to accurately identify other core players as they are brought into focus. Secondly, the reader will be able to pass over minor players who may sound like "big fish" but in fact are only pedestrians.

Organizational Memberships
The old saying, "Birds of a feather, flock together" is appropriate for the perpetrators of globalism. Sociologically speaking, they are like any other people group with like interests: they naturally tend to form societies that will help them achieve their common interests. A side-benefit of fellowship is mutual support and encouragement. Once formed, such groups tend to be self-perpetuating, at least as long as common interests remain. In modern history, the pinnacle of global drivers has been the Trilateral Commission. Founded in 1973 by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski, this group is credited with being the founder of the New International Economic Order that has given rise to the globalization we see today.

Obviously, Corporate's partnerships with Political, Academic and Press has been very successful.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 5:14 pm | #

"If you were a creature from another world, would you really want to come "visit" this polluted, hateful planet??
Especially if you had the "technology" to travel anywhere you wanted??" Patrick

As an UFOlogist and someone who believes in the POSSIBILITY that we MAY be being visited by alien life, I can say that the only good thing that has come out of the Bush presidency for me is that I am no longer challenged by disbelievers with the question: "Well, if aliens ARE coming here in UFOs then why don't they land on the White House lawn?". The answer to that is now obvious to everyone.
Alouet | 06.29.07 - 4:40 pm | #

Alouet, you didn't read that question the way I posted it.read it again,~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If you were a creature from another world, would you really want to come "visit" this polluted, hateful planet??
Especially if you had the "technology" to travel anywhere you wanted??"
I said absolutly nothing about "landing on the white house lawn,duh, what I said, to make it easier to read:
IF YOU HAD THE TECHNOLOGY TO TRAVEL LIKE THEY DO,(WHOMEVER 'THEY' ARE)
WOULD YOU COME TO THIS FILTHY PLANET?? OR, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME!!!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 4:57 pm | #

Norman D. Livergood

http://www.hermes-press.com/ germ...germany1930.htm
We who live in the post-World War II period possess an immensely valuable symbol, even if we don't understand it or use it effectively: the example of Nazi Germany.
"The German experiment, except to those who are its victims, is particularly interesting, and, like the offer of a strong man to let himself be vivisected, should make a great contribution to political science. For the Germans are the most gifted and most highly educated people who ever devoted the full strength of a modern state to stopping the exchange of ideas; they are the most highly organized people who ever devoted all the coercive power of government to the abolition of their own intellectual life; they are the most learned people who ever pretended to believe that the premises and the conclusion of all inquiry may be fixed by political fiat."

Walter Lippmann. (1936), The Good Society

An Unknown Episode In American History

Nazi Germany was created by the criminal cabal that currently rules the United States and much of the world. One of the early underlings of this cabal was Prescott Bush, Dubya's grandfather. Prescott Bush was a director of the Union Banking Corporation, which the U.S. government took over in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corporation stock shares, all of which were owned by E. Roland Harriman, Prescott Bush, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Prescott Bush.
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:46 pm | #

Address by Richard M. Nixon to the Bohemian Club/1/

San Francisco, July 29, 1967.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/fru...xon/i/ 20700.htm
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:36 pm | #

Real life consists for most people of far more immediate threats, like paying the bills, advancing in one’s job, passing school exams, and getting a good parking spot at the office. Unfortunately, the time is upon us when none of these things will matter. All the "sensible" concerns of everyday life are about to become totally meaningless. As it is written:
They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will be an unclean thing. Their silver and gold will not be able to save them in the day of the LORD’s wrath.
Ezekial 7:19
It is difficult to envision that the seemingly stable North American culture could be overturned. That is because for most of us, we have not been exposed directly to war and disaster. Such things are only images on TV. They happen to other people in far away places.
But we are about to be consumed by the most horrifying and violent events in history. These events are foretold in the bible.

Wake up kids, time for schoooooollll !!!!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 4:35 pm | #

Bacteria Torture Tests Demonstrate Evolution
Dr. Richard Lenski has followed in the footsteps of famous sf writers, creating captive worlds and learning from them.

Terminator Seed Ban Proposed In Canada
When you buy some seeds, you own all of the plants descended from those seeds, right? Don't be so sure.

Dutch Growing Pork In Lab
Researchers at it again, in search of pulled pork not pulled from porkers.

Neuron Network Cyborg Has Memory
Is this cyborg-like combination of neurons and silicon a new proof of this kind of memory system?

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Sc...sp? NewsNum=1063

[From TOTL earlier]
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:32 pm | #

Patrick, have you read Pentagon Aliens yet?
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:31 pm | #

Just seeing your helpful posts,Sane, is enough reason to read your posts and leads!!
Love ya,Sane!
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 4:23 pm | #

Right back at ya bro!
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:29 pm | #

Just seeing your helpful posts,Sane, is enough reason to read your posts and leads!!
Love ya,Sane!
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 4:23 pm | #

The truth is that space research has, from the time of Gallileo, been a threat to your kind of dogmatic Christian, because it raises awkward questions about why God created such an immensely huge universe, if it is otherwise empty apart from us. And, if it is not empty, but perhaps teeming with alien life (some of which indeed may be visiting us) how does that square with the geocentric mythology that has been imposed on Jesus the moral teacher - does every planet in the universe with intelligent life get sent its own "savior" or does Jesus visit them all in turn and get crucified again on each?

Can't let this one go without comment,
You SAID"your kind of dogmatic Christian,"
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I AM A JUDEO-CHRISTIAN,I do not follow a lot of the dogmas preached in the government chuches!I am not a sheep in that respect, I do know my God and Saviour,Christ Jesus, PLUS- just because Christ had to die for our sins, DOES NOT MEAN the rest of the universe commited any sin and needed a saviour!From what I have read, Adam is the only one that disobeyed Gods command,so it is very likely that the rest if the intellegent universe did not sin and therefore DID NOT NEED a Saviour!
think about that!
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 4:21 pm | #

Guys someone uploaded all of Kurt Vonnegut's work at scribd.

You can donload them all to .pdf files.

Guys Kurt Vonnegut, like George Orwell saw the destruction in Dresden and knew what was coming. Slaughterhouse Five was banned in many countries because of the information it revealed. Books like these, when read by the population are some of the best defenses against long term nefarious plane.

Enjoy!

http://www.scribd.com/search? que...sortorder=views

______________________
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:05 pm | #

And to take your theory (which I don't condemn)
If you were a creature from another world, would you really want to come "visit" this polluted, hateful planet??
Especially if you had the "technology" to travel anywhere you wanted??
Seriously,
Dont you think there are a lot better things to do if you were a sinless creature with their capabilities in this vast expanse?
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 3:58 pm | #

Check out: Crazy Jamaicans confuse Zionist Extraterrestrials as "ghosts" so-called.
http://www.jamaica-star.com/thes...news/ news1.html

للمواقع الإخبارية والإعلامية !?!?!
ThePlanetHollywood | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 3:57 pm | #

If you see an aerial drone you can
1. waive at it and talk to it as a friend
2. swear at it and give it the finger
3. moon it
4. expose yourself*
this is my favorite, however it could shoot your weiner off
pc | 06.29.07 - 3:56 pm | #

Grteetings Alouet | 06.29.07 - 3:44 pm | #

Guess what, they never even went to the moon!!
there are no such thing as extra-terrestrails. those that have been abducted were taken by govbernment or demons.

As for lifespans, I have no problem with the claims of the bible that they lived for nine hundred + years. which would also explain where we came up with how to create some of the fantastic food dishes we enjoy as well as technological advances,

To me, it is conceivable that if you had the ability to think on things for a few hundred years, you will come up with answers that a person with only 50 or so years to think could never figure out. hope that makes "cents".
peace
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 3:52 pm | #

19 They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will be an unclean thing. Their silver and gold will not be able to save them in the day of the LORD’s wrath. They will not satisfy their hunger or fill their stomachs with it, for it has made them stumble into sin.
Ezek 7:19

This is for Alex and the rest of the gold advocates! It doesn't matter if gold was the medium of exchange for a million years, when the anti-christ takes his position, he will make it so no-one can buy or sell without the mark,not gold, the flipping mark of the beast!
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 3:45 pm | #

Hi Patrick

You say: "there is no way that any living creature can traverse the distances of space to visit earth." Well, although Einstein's theories suggest that spacecraft cannot travel faster than the speed of light, that would not, for example, prevent any living creatures from a planet around the star Alpha Centuri making the four year trip to visit us. Four years is a long time for us humans, but who knows what the lifespans of creatures from other worlds might be (if you believe in your Bible then you will know that it claims that the original inhabitants of Earth lived for centuries), and who knows how far they might be able to travel in their extended lifetimes even at restricted sub-light speeds. Then, of course, they could also use generational ships, like arks, in which the original crew members die, but their progeny carry on the mission. And then, finally, there is the fact that many physicists do not accept that the speed of light is an impassable barrier anyway (research tachyons - faster than light particles - and the warping of space-time to nullify distance and time).

The truth is that space research has, from the time of Gallileo, been a threat to your kind of dogmatic Christian, because it raises awkward questions about why God created such an immensely huge universe, if it is otherwise empty apart from us. And, if it is not empty, but perhaps teeming with alien life (some of which indeed may be visiting us) how does that square with the geocentric mythology that has been imposed on Jesus the moral teacher - does every planet in the universe with intelligent life get sent its own "savior" or does Jesus visit them all in turn and get crucified again on each?

You may think that I am being irreverent, but truth is truth and you cannot hide from it forever. At present there is NO evidence that the unimaginably vast universe that was created along with (in fact, for the most part, long before) the Earth was a mere pointless waste of God's time and energy, so rationally you cannot assume that it is. Unless God is a deceiver, he (she or it) wants us to discover and know the truth and not delude ourselves with comforting fantasies.
Alouet | 06.29.07 - 3:44 pm | #

WTC MISSILE UPDATE: Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower, appears to be either a cruise missile or an air to ground missile which impacted the WTC complex moments later. Most visible at this link, the pieces of wreckage at 7 seconds and 19 seconds in The Smoking White Plane video, should not be confused with the missile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...related& search=

…as the second jet rammed its target, ‘…That was an explosion,’ says Stephen McArdle a tax consultant, from inside the Marriot Hotel, he was taping as part of an FBI sting operation. …Then comes a longer and much louder explosion. Greg Smith 2002. The second explosion was thought to be the detonation of the missile’s warhead…

The following statement is from Jack White’s 911 Studies: The South Tower was hit at 9:03, at 9:04 CNN televised a significant explosion between the North Tower and Building 7 the location of WTC 6, the 8-Story Customs House… Photo: a pyroclastic cloud in an inner city environment, caption… while onlookers were distracted by the events at skyscraper level, moments after the second plane hit the South Tower, WTC 6 was torn apart by a massive explosion. The crater in the building was eight stories deep, an immense hole blasted into the sub basements… all eight stories missing… no wreckage… blown away… vaporized by the thermonuclear warhead on the missile, it did seem. However the CNN footage and NY1 footage both reveal an absence of smoke, or any blast fallout at ground level simultaneous with the impact at 9:03, which one could associate with a guided missile strike.

Thus the above statement is in error, Torrent File 911-0856-1256 WABC-CNN footage, reveals the pyroclastic cloud event occurred at 10:04am simultaneous with the collapse of the South Tower. The explanation given on the web is that the cloud is associated with the collapse, this writer believes that the tremendous damage to WTC’s 45&6 was the cause, but that the alleged missile in the above vid arrived an hour too early to have done it.

Christopher Bollyn’s website has this story… Were DU Missiles Used on the World Trade Center: Photo’s …Caption: …The flame in the photos of the mysterious burning object passing through the South Tower is almost pure white, and leaves a dark trail… Is this the burning remnant of a DU penetrator? 23 October 2004. …The flaming wreckage Bollyn says might be a DU penetrator is not, he posted shots of wreckage thought to be an engine and part of the landing gear of the plane that struck the South tower, which had a different trajectory than the alleged missile. All in all Bollyn’s material is kinda suspect.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 3:42 pm | #

There is a danger in the present material comfort we enjoy. This comfort tends to allow us to over look signals and signs which should be making us change our lives. Earthquakes, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, volcanic eruptions, terrorism, bombings, wars, chemical and biological weapons. These things are a serious threat, and yet the present system we live in grinds along without any changes. There is a reason for this: The system we live in is engineered to destroy us. The system of governments, banks, corporations, media agencies, computer technology, and even the modern education system, is an intelligent, coordinated effort to destroy us. And it is orchestrated by Satan the devil, through occult and secret societies, who conduct the affairs of the world through unwitting politicians and corporate profit agendas.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:56 pm | #

The News Teachers and Childhood Psychology
We are told what is a big story and what is not. We are not allowed to decide for ourselves what to think about the items in the news. The news reporters, through the most subtle facial expressions and vocal intonations, are able to signal us exactly how we should react to each story. Watch for this the next time you watch CNN. The reporter will change his or her tone and facial expression ever so slightly to signal you how you should react to this story - whether you should be amused, outraged, saddened or inspired. Your reaction has been pre-engineered for you and it is waiting for you to adopt it as your own. And subconsciously we search for such signals because we have become so disoriented that we no longer have even enough self confidence to believe that our own interpretation of the story could be valid. We have been trained to repeat the version of the story exactly as it was given to us without question. This is a psychological continuation which the system began in our lives when we were in school. As children in the classroom, the teacher would introduce a topic and then "invite discussion" while gently and subtly leading the class towards the "right answer". Remember hints such as "That’s not quite the answer I was looking for."? The student who gave the answer that pleased the teacher was praised in front of the class, while those who gave their own opinion were encouraged to "try again next time". In this manner the subtle psychological message is implanted early and it is this: When the teacher/boss/newscaster/ authority figure talks about something, watch for the non-verbal hints to determine how you should feel about this subject, and then when you get a chance, make sure that you parrot the party line with all the heartfelt conviction you can muster.
But why would such a technique work so well on us? Are we really that weak? The reason is that from early childhood we seek love and approval and validation from our parents. When we are removed from them and plunked into schools, the teacher takes on the approval/validation role in our parents’ place, and so we begin to look to them. We learn to act and say whatever it takes to get their approval, and those who do not conform become deviants. This process is continued throughout life and the teacher is replaced by the boss and the newscaster, or anyone we deem to be in authority over us. The lack of childhood love and validation, which the system stole from us by taking us from our parents at an early age, forms a lifelong insecurity and search for validation which is never resolved, and it results in our seeking to please authority figures throughout our lives. The system does not want you to know that it works like this, because if you did you may actually free yourself.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:50 pm | #

The Master Plan
But what ties all these conspiracies together? What is behind them all? Are they all the independent efforts of various governments, spy agencies and corporations, each pursuing their own selfish agenda, or is there a "higher purpose" which underlies and coordinates all these diverse strategies into one master plan?
The author contends that the master plan is to destroy mankind and the master planner is Satan the devil. The spy agencies, governments, corporations, banks etc. are all, whether they realize it or not, simply carrying out the devil’s work. And the devil’s work is based upon deception, as it has from the beginning, when he deceived Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. Satan wants to prevent human beings from attaining their inheritance of citizenship in the Kingdom of God, and in order to do this he must obscure every element of truth which relates to history, religion, and human psychology. Why is deception the key to the devil’s work? Because, as Christ said, "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." (John 8:32). It is truth, and mature understanding of truth, which brings human beings into a mature relationship with God. Separation from truth separates us from God. Satan is the enemy of truth. Christ called him "the father of lies" (John 8:44). This denial of truth which characterizes the devil goes back to the time when God created the angels - including Satan, and Satan came to doubt God’s explanation of the created order. Satan questioned whether he and the angels were created by God and therefore subordinate to Him. The devil’s reasoning went along the lines that from the first recollection of their consciousness, the angels’ could not know how they came into being, and God could simply have come into being among them, telling them he was their creator in order to gain power over them. Satan successfully convinced a portion of the other angels that this was a plausible argument, and the confusion about the origins of the universe continue to this day, manifested in the theories of the big bang and evolution from apes. (The author does not dispute the big bang, but contends that if it occurs, it was by God’s hand. As for evolution, the author does not presume to know the extent to which human beings have evolved since their creation, but contends that human evolution within the human species does in no way conflict with the biblical account of creation.)
The establishment of God as Creator is so vital that God chose to make it the very first statement in the bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
If we want to be really analytical as to the first words in the bible, it is significant that the very first four words are simply "In the beginning God" - the implication is that God pre-existed everything - a fact well known to believers, but a point of stumbling for philosophers who seek a means to explain life apart from God:
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."
John 8:44-47
Successful deception depends upon injecting a little bit of truth along with the lies. This technique is central to Satan’s methods and can be seen in the tactics of all his organizations, especially the spy agencies, in the methods of their propaganda. This is due to the way the human mind processes information. When we hear any information, our "paradigm filters" automatically seek to put the new information into context with the established knowledge we already have. This causes us to associate the new information with other related facts we have stored. By mixing some truth with propaganda, disinformation is successful because it triggers the brain’s natural associative response. Propaganda specialists have learned that fooling people is actually very simple. All that is required is to present the false information within the context of information which people already believe. We all want to make sense of the world. For most of us, being able to make sense of the facts quickly, in order to feel more comfortable, takes precedence over an in-depth understanding. Most of us are lazy thinkers, and dictators take full advantage of this. Adolf Hitler said: "What luck for rulers that men do not think."
What are we to make of all the conspiracy theories we hear? They cannot all be true and they cannot all be false. In most cases, truth and lies are mixed up in every story. This makes it very hard to know how to deal with all the information. The key to understanding it all is to know the motives behind those giving the information. Christ said that we can tell whether a tree is good or bad simply by looking at the fruit which it produces. If it produces good fruit, it is a good tree, and if it is a bad tree, it will produce bad fruit. We can, therefore assume some things about the world we live in. The produce of this world is suffering, death and destruction. Therefore this world is evil. It is evil because Satan the devil has control over it. (1 John 5:19). If the devil has control over the world, he also has control over the organizations which produce the news. We already know that his plan is based on deception, so it follows that of all the organizations under his control, those organizations which can be used to mislead us are going to be most important to him. The most important human organization under his control is the media.
What then, is the purpose of the satanically controlled media? One of the most incredible efforts underway is to make us believe in the existence of aliens, an effort which will culminate in an attempt to discredit the second coming of Christ.
Most people believe that the government is trying to cover up alien encounters. That is exactly what they want you to believe. It is a simple case of using reverse psychology, by "leaking" just enough "classified information" (such as Roswell) to create suspicion of a cover-up, and then going to great lengths to maintain secrecy. The whole thing is a farce.
There are no aliens, except the ones which the CIA has invented. Why such an effort? Because the CIA works for the devil, and the devil can use belief in aliens to "precondition" us for the return of Jesus Christ, such that many people will think that the return of Christ is an alien invasion, and therefore reject Christ. In the book of Revelation it is written that when Christ returns, the armies of the nations will assemble to fight Him.
Why would anyone try to fight Christ? If you know it is God you know you cannot fight Him, since God is all powerful. The only way any person can be deceived into fighting Christ is if they do not believe it is Him. The alien fabrication is the only way in which the system can explain the supernatural events which will take place when Christ returns. Supernatural events which originate from God are meant to cause people to repent. In our scientific age, however, especially with the widespread belief in aliens, the stage is now set for an alternate explanation for the supernatural events which will culminate in Christ’s return. The movie Independence Day was certainly the most powerful example of this preconditioning. In this movie, the ominous clouds which concealed the alien spacecrafts were supernatural looking, especially since the bible reveals that Christ will return "in the clouds." Another theme which the movie adapted from the bible was the international coordination of the world’s military forces in fighting the invaders:
19 Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image.
Rev 19: 19-20
Note the words "deluded" and "miraculous signs" in the above scripture. The popular mind set which will fight against Christ will have been engineered - preconditioned - to see the supernatural events as a manifestation of alien forces rather than God. The Hollywood movies and popular media has created such a powerful belief in an imminent alien encounter, that many people have actually come to expect such an event. Discussion of alien encounters has in many cases taken precedence over discussion of the Christian hope - Christ’s return, which he promised to his disciples:
12 "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
Rev 22:12
The defining character which God gave us is free choice and independent thinking. God does not want us to be robots. He wants us to be individual, intelligent beings who choose good over evil. When human beings come to the point where they choose of their own free will to accept the sacrifice of Christ and to repent from evil and turn to God, a transformation occurs which culminates in humans being reconciled to God. This is the process which Satan wants to undermine, and to do so requires that the very definition of good and evil be contorted into "socially desirable vs. undesirable". If human beings can be deluded into thinking there is no such thing as sin, but instead are orientated to seek state-defined modes of acceptance, then the very basis of discussion for redemption is undermined. This is another way of saying that without the central belief in absolute good and evil, a
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:43 pm | #

Dang it, I forgot to laugh
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Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:36 pm | #

Bush: 'Good results' follow Iraq buildup
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By Maura Reynolds and Peter Spiegel, Tribune Newspapers: Los Angeles Times

June 29, 2007

NEWPORT, R.I. -- Faced with eroding support even among longtime Republican allies in Congress, President Bush argued Thursday that the U.S. troop buildup in Iraq is working and urged Americans and lawmakers to give the military operation more time to succeed.

In a speech to military scholars at the U.S. Naval War College, the president gave his own report on the plan's progress, detailing what he described as "good results" attributable to the buildup he authorized in the winter, including a decrease in sectarian killings and the capture of insurgent leaders.

Although he acknowledged setbacks and uneven progress, Bush made his most detailed case to date that the so-called surge is working and emphasized that the last brigade of additional troops had arrived in Iraq just weeks ago.

"It's a well-conceived plan by smart military people, and we owe them the time and we owe them the support they need to succeed," Bush said.

While expressing frustration with the Iraqi government's failure to enact political reforms, he appealed for leniency, saying that even "long-established democracies" work slowly. Bush's comments come at a time when popular and congressional support for the war -- and the troop increase initiated in January -- has diminished.

Earlier this week, a key administration ally, Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, the top Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee and a leading voice on international affairs, said in a speech on the Senate floor that he could no longer support the strategy.

The progress cited by Bush consisted of a mix of small tactical gains and broader signs that the Iraqi government was more effective in providing security for its people.

Bush said that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki had lived up to his commitments to provide troops for the new security plan and had effectively dealt with the fallout after the recent bombing of a Shiite mosque in Samarra. "They're becoming more capable and coming closer to the day when they can assume responsibility for defending their own country," Bush said.

The developments cited by Bush have been the subject of debate, however. For instance, U.S. military commanders in recent weeks have raised questions about the Iraqi army's ability to take over anytime soon. In addition, one of the advances cited by Bush, involving cooperation between U.S. forces and Sunni Arab sheiks in Anbar province, was under way before the start of the troop buildup. That initiative suffered a significant setback when several of the sheiks were assassinated in the bombing of a Baghdad hotel earlier this week.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:26 pm | #

The Anti-Gun Agenda
What is behind the gun control movement? Are the majority of citizens well served by laws which restrict the use of guns? Has gun control, where implemented, produced a reduction in crime and violence? Guns are unique as weapons because they remove the advantage of physical strength. Prior to the advent of firearms, weapons like swords required a great deal of skill and strength, but guns can be used effectively by anyone.
Guns are therefore a remarkable equalizing force in society, preventing the strong from abusing the weak. If every citizen was armed, or if it were widely known that any citizen had the right to be armed, would there be as many breakins? I suggest that we would be better served by requiring every household to possess a gun than by forbidding it. This I say to make a point and not as an actual recommendation. Let me put it this way: Have we not been told that the concept of mutually assured destruction, as a product of the cold war, was the only thing that prevented nuclear war between the superpowers? Why then does this same principle not apply to individuals? For if each home-owner on the street was armed, what would become of the wreckless youth gangs carrying out a "drive-by shooting" in the neighborhood? I suggest they would each commit such an atrocity only once, and it would be their last earthly act. The concept of mutually assured destruction, while understandably distasteful, was sufficient for the government to justify construction of the world’s most destructive military arsenal, yet it is somehow insufficient to justify the mass arming of ordinary citizens. This is a strange logic indeed. I suggest that the gun control movement is not justified by logic at all, but rather by an agenda which seeks to reduce citizens to frightened victims of crime, so afraid for their lives that they will support any government initiative, no matter how totalitarian, as long as it offers some hope of "safety".
Removing guns does nothing to protect ordinary citizens, since criminals only become more powerful in the wake of such mass disarmament. It is the system of government, including the arm of law enforcement which benefits, since it is now able to be the sole protector of the citizenry. But how effective is the police force at saving a person who’s home is under assault? The police can only intervene after the crime is committed, and therefore do not play an effective role in protecting citizens from violent crime in the first place. The only true protection is for the citizens to arm themselves. Gun control has exactly the opposite effect from that which its advocates present. Rather than increasing public safety, it reduces citizens to an inferior state in relation to criminals, since it becomes easier for criminals to obtain guns than for non-criminals.
What about the economic ramifications of gun control? Is gun control a cost effective method of dealing with crime? What is more sensible, to have a gun in each home so that the home owner has means to protect himself, or to dispatch a police helicopter to the scene in response to a call for help? I would suggest that any adult competent enough to be able to dial "911" is also competent enough to decide when the use of a gun is justified. Or are we of the opinion that it is quite acceptable for a citizen to defend his property with a baseball bat but not with a gun? The mere sight of a gun is often sufficient to deter an assailant. Do we think that the average citizen is not competent to use a gun safely? Once again, the question must be asked: Who is really driving the gun control agenda and whom does it serve? We are being led to believe that gun control is being implemented in response to public pressure. Is it believable that grass-roots pressure is behind the gun control agenda? Here again, the notion of male assertiveness comes into play. How many men have an aversion to guns? Most men are fascinated with them. At what point does this natural male preference for self protection disappear and give way to a politically correct view that wants to rely on the police? My point is that if public demand was forcing a democratic movement to remove guns, then such a demand is certainly not apparent from the natural male propensity for aggressive sports and video games, and therefore it is difficult to see how such a movement as gun control could possibly originate from a male dominated society which has shown such an historical preference for violence as a means to resolve disputes. Are the same male tendencies which formerly resulted in dueling and gunfights now resolved to pick up the phone and call 911? This is difficult to believe. I suggest that the gun control movement cannot be the result of democratic pressures, since there is no evidence to suggest that men have changed their preference for the masculine prerogative to defend them- selves. Are we to believe then that this movement is driven by an outcry from women, who want to disarm men who might threaten them? Hardly, since if equalization of might were the issue, it would scarcely serve women to be without the one means by which the physical disparity between the sexes can be overcome.
The author is not advocating the use of guns to resolve disputes. I am simply trying to make the point that there is no logical explanation of the gun control agenda originating from a democratic process of grass-roots public demand. Is not the democratic process driven by the individual voting in favor of those circumstances which improve his or her own personal condition? How then does gun control benefit any individual voter? If the individual sees himself surrounded by criminals with guns, it is hard to believe that he would elect to deny himself the only means of reasonable protection.
The gun control agenda is driven by governments, who realize that historically the gun has been so effective in equalizing physical force that it has prevented governments from using their power to oppress the citizens. Guns create problems for governments in two ways. First, they reduce the dependency of ordinary people on law enforcement agencies, by providing citizens with the means to protect themselves. This means that law enforcement agencies are less able to justify increases in forceful policing tactics, thereby reducing the power of the state to dominate people’s lives. Secondly, guns in the possession of the vast majority make it difficult for governments to use force to enact unpopular policies. This second point becomes more apparent when viewed in historical context, looking back on the age before guns were readily available. In such times, armored knights on horseback could be used to subdue vast numbers of people, and this was the basis for feudalism, whereby the vast majority were serfs working the land for lords and masters. When the gun became widely available, any discontented serf could dispatch the stately knight from his horse without difficulty - a situation which caused great distress for the feudal lords who depended on physical intimidation to control the population. This lesson of history is not lost on modern governments, since governments are always concerned with the problem of containing the actions of citizens in one way or another. No government has ever existed which, having developed the means to control a population, did not increase such control without end until the citizens finally rebel. It is the very nature of governments to seek to control people, and guns are, historically, the single greatest threat to this control, since they allow ordinary people the means to defend themselves against any aggressor.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:16 pm | #

Evil by Design
The problems we have in the world are not just happening by coincidence. The evil destroying us is a planned effort. It is coordinated and organized by Satan the devil and administered by those in high positions of power. Those of the human realm which are at the very top of the human hierarchy are well aware of the plan and the source of their success, but they will not repent because they are addicted to the power and wealth which is given as a reward to those who serve Satan. They have nothing to look forward to beyond this life, since the only pleasure they will ever enjoy is that which they have in this present evil world:
19 "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, `Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 "But Abraham replied, `Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.
Luke 16:19-25
But even though they have nothing beyond this life, the present reality is powerful enough to convince them that it is worth it. Many people can be convinced to sell their souls for earthly power and wealth. But God tells us not to put our hope in this present world:
19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Matt 6:19-21
The hope of Christians is that despite the evil we are suffering at the hands of Satan, our future is eternal life in the kingdom of God. The future we look forward to is well worth the pain we have to go through now:
10 Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
2 Pet 1:10-11
And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thou sand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
Rev 20:4-6
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:12 pm | #

Alien Abductions and the CIA
What about alien abductions? There are some very convincing stories from people who consistently report abduction stories, even under hypnosis. Could it be they are telling the truth? I suggest that some of these people have indeed been abducted, but not by aliens. I suggest that they are abducted by secret government agencies which are intent on creating an alien scare and manipulating the minds of its citizens. Why would they do such a thing? For one thing, belief in aliens is a powerful incentive to spend money on space research, which is expensive and thereby provides a good excuse for bigger government spending and which can be easily adapted to military purposes. If the public can be convinced that aliens might exist, there is a greater chance of gaining consensus for expensive space stations and lots of NASA contracts for the military contractors.
Another reason for the scam is a little more sinister, and is not likely to be believed by most people. This is the plan to stage alien invasions as a prelude to the return of Christ, and thereby deceive people into thinking that the return of Christ is simply an alien invasion. The problem with postulating about such evil schemes is that most people do not want to believe that any human organization would participate in plots of such evil. What must be understood is that somewhere in the hierarchy of human organization there exists that level of administration which serves Satan knowingly.
If Satan is the ruler of this world, then those who serve him must at some point in the organization be aware of the ultimate goal of the mission. Certainly it is common in all organizations for each level to report only to the layer above it, such that the motives of the very top are hidden from those carrying out the ground work. But at some point, there has to be a direct interface between the top ruler and the executive class. This interface does exist between the spirit realm and the powerful elite who run the world, otherwise there would be no means to manipulate human organizations so effectively. Not only do the highest levels of the human power structure commune with evil spirits, but the spirits give them the power to carry out the plans. This can occur either by revealing powerful technologies, or by providing special insight into the means of executing difficult problems.
It is inconceivable that the horrors carried out in the world today are simply driven by unrelated circumstance. Such atrocities can only be attributed to those who have dedicated themselves fully and irrevocably to the service of evil. They serve the devil knowingly, and in return they are granted power and wealth.
The promise of power and wealth in return for satanic allegiance is well documented in the scriptures:
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
Matt 4:8-9
Worldly power and wealth are also the reward obtained by rock musicians, who attain god-like status in return for promoting satanic themes in their music. The rock music phenomenon bears special attention, as it displays an unprecedented level of material reward. Never before in history has there been the means for a small group of musicians to broadcast their music around the world and to mesmerize millions of people simultaneously. Rock music is used as a powerful dividing force to separate children from their parents and from any traditional belief system. The message of rock music is the same as the law of the Satanists: "Do what you will shall be the whole law."
Rock music glorifies evil, rebellion, destruction, suicide, disrespect for elders, contempt for God, and everything else which is vile. The very appearance of certain rock musicians is designed to appeal to a satanic mind set. But the influence of rock music has evolved beyond the high energy rebellion music of the early musicians, and is now being used to promote not high energy rebellion but low energy passivity and acquiescence. The tone of modern Satan inspired music is less concerned with outward aggression than with inward self-loathing, self-mutilation and body piercing. The focus is no longer to smash guitars on stage, but rather to destroy the inner spirit with a message of complete hopelessness and the blackest sense of foreboding and doom. The new generation which is under attack by the popular music must be made to feel unloved and disconnected from other human beings in order to fulfill the final de-humanizing step in the satanic plan. Which is to create humans which no longer care to think.
How can this be achieved? By replacing the imagination of childhood with the dark images of endless media indoctrination, especially black and white footage depicting a hopeless view of history, giving the impression that every- thing has already been tried, that there are no solutions, and, most importantly, that God is as much a fiction as Santa Clause. Will this strategy work? No. The human spirit, imbued with the spirit of God, has proved resilient beyond the most vicious assaults. Humanity will survive this because, as the bible says:
4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
1 John 4:4
and...
33 "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."
John 16:33
The satanic agenda will fail. But in the near term, it is creating devastation of families, marriages, and entire nations.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:07 pm | #

The Alien Agenda
The author does not believe that aliens exist. The author believes that man is the special and unique creation of God, destined to inherit the universe. But even if there were aliens - and I say this only to make the following point - there is no way that any living creature can traverse the distances of space to visit earth. My point is that the "alien encounters" which are so often documented originate from a very earthly agenda. That agenda is first to create confusion about the nature of man in relation to God, and more importantly to create a mind set which will cause human beings to reject Christ at His return. Many will believe that the supernatural events culminating in the second coming is nothing but an alien invasion.
The power of the media, and in particular Hollywood, to change human perception is incredible. Modern special effects, to say nothing of the subliminal messages impinging on us, have the power to re-orientate our thinking. The term brainwashing applies, but is perhaps ineffective because of the overuse of the term - it has lost its meaning. The millions of media images and especially the images Hollywood portrays are used to indoctrinate the public into certain very specific thought patterns.
What about the story of the asteroid from Mars that was found in Antarctica, with alien bugs fossilized on its surface? That story received a lot of attention. Afterward, many serious scientists questioned the finding. But it was too late. The intended effect had been achieved. The public had been brought one step closer to the belief that aliens exist.
Who is behind this alien life promotion? While we are being made to believe that the government is hiding evidence of alien contact, I suggest that the opposite is the case - that the government has manufactured the alien story and wants us to believe that it is hiding evidence, in order to create interest in the subject and to set us up for the scam of the century.
First of all, the real activity in flying saucer sightings occurred at exactly the time when the military was most active in developing aircraft - during the second world war. Are we to believe that this was a coincidence? Did the aliens who have to travel millions of miles to reach our planet time the visit so well as to coincide with our development of aircraft?
Some of the very first modern day documented flying saucer sightings were those reported by military pilots, who called the flying saucers "foo fighters". Examination of these reports reveals that the men who saw these aircraft naturally assumed that they were simply top secret military aircraft. It is only through the Hollywood alien scare that the association was made between high speed aircraft and aliens. Any society advanced enough to achieve inter- galactic space travel would also be advanced enough to remain undetected. No matter how fast a space ship flies, the laws of physics state that you cannot travel faster than the speed of light. And even at the speed of light, it takes thousands of years to travel around in the universe. Do we then accept the notion that these alien beings spend thousands of years traveling to visit us, and then go away without saying good-bye? Would you travel for a thousand years just to make a ten minute appearance?
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:05 pm | #

Yes. Legalize all drugs.
First of all, lets look at it from a moral perspective. Why do we assume that the government should have the power to control drug use any more than, say alcohol or tobacco use, or for that matter, herbal drugs which are an alternative to pharmaceutical drugs? If I want to take drugs (be assured I do not) then is it really the government’s prerogative to stop me? Nowhere in the ten commandments have I seen any law against using drugs (drugs have existed for thousands of years, and were certainly around during Old Testament times). Nor did Christ ever mention the topic. As a matter of sin, drug use is not even on the radar screen. What about the current trend in which the government is interfering in the use of natural herbal remedies - claiming that they do not have government approval? My point is this: when it comes to the use of any substance or drug, what is the government’s real motive for making themselves our exclusive doctor?
Where did we first get this idea that the government should be allowed to limit the personal use of any substance whatsoever? I suggest that the reason why drugs are illegal is so that the governments and the powerful elite can continue to profit from them. The government makes vast amounts of money from the drug trade. When drug profits are seized they can be confiscated and used by the government to "fight crime". This is the so called "proceeds of crime" bill. This presents a conflict of interest in my view. If the police know that the proceeds of crime can be seized and used to pay their own departments, is there not a conflict of interest in the sense that the police will sustain the drug trade and then simply swoop in at the last minute to make the bust and take the loot, all in the name of fighting crime? What about alternative medicine, including the use of marijuana, which seems to help to relieve pain for some people? Why should we need the government’s approval before we can decide for ourselves which substances we want to use to treat our own ailments? Is this being done so that we are forced to rely on the medical profession? The pharmaceutical companies and the medical profession want to remain as the only avenue through which people can obtain treatment. Is this right? Are we not free to seek out health and happiness in whatever way we find appropriate?
But what would happen if we did legalize all drugs? The same thing that happened when prohibition was abandoned. Some people drink, some people do not drink. Some people drink far too much and too often. Some people under the influence of alcohol even kill others. The same is true of drugs. But the point is that this tragic result occurs and will occur whether or not the substances are legal or illegal. Those who want the substances badly enough will obtain them one way or another. The lessons learned from prohibition are not lost on the powerful elite who control our laws. It is precisely because the powerful elite, connected with the bootleggers of the prohibition era, lost so much income from the legalization of alcohol, that they do not want to make the same mistake again.
There is far too much money at stake to legalize drugs. By keeping drugs illegal, the demand always exceeds the supply, keeping the price high and turning an incredible profit for all those connected with the drug trade, including governments, the CIA, and the police forces of the world. If drugs were suddenly legalized, you would be able to buy them anywhere, resulting in a huge price drop, and worse than that, eliminating the monopoly which the drug syndicates and governments now hold on the single most lucrative sector of the economy.
I am not promoting drug use. Rather I am saying that drug use will occur despite the best efforts of all the police forces in the world. And as long as it is illegal, there will always be so much money to be made from it that it will be very tempting for any law enforcement group to be corrupted by it. And that is precisely what has happened. The whole system which was supposedly brought about to fight the drug war is now sustained by it.
But chief among my suggestions is that the powerful elite who control our world are themselves profiting from the drug trade, and these are the same people who make the laws we live under. For this reason, the laws are not there to protect us, but to maintain the status quo and to protect the drug industry.
It is, in fact, impossible to control most substances. When coffee was first made available in Europe, the aristocracy tried in vain to prevent the commoners from drinking it. Any substance which is found to have desirable qualities will find its way to those who are willing to pay for it. There is simply no logical, moral or financial grounds for enforcing laws against drugs. Every attempt by governments to control substances has failed. And it is quite apparent that our modern war on drugs is also a failure. The use of any sub- stance, whether it is alcohol, drugs or, gunpowder, cannot be regulated.
Any attempt to do so will simply result in the profits of its trade being monopolized by those with political power.
It was because of prohibition that some of the wealthiest families became rich. Those who were adept at playing the corrupt political games of bribes and payoffs were the ones whose liquor made it past the police, and these were the families who did well as a result. The actual result of such laws in fact is an incentive to commit crime, since only those willing to break the law can profit from such laws. How does the average person profit from laws against drugs? He does not profit in any way. In fact he loses money because a large amount of his tax dollars are consumed in fighting the drug war, which can never be won. If drugs were legalized, the only people who would suffer are those who are now selling drugs illegally. And that is exactly why drugs are kept illegal.
When a topic is debated, especially one as charged with controversy as the legalization of drugs, most people do not asses the topic objectively. Instead they immediately react without thinking, feeling it necessary to align themselves instantly with one side of the debate or the other, without first carefully examining the facts. This is why the system can maintain power over us. Because we do not think through the problem carefully.
Adolf Hitler once said: "What luck for rulers that men do not think."
Most people are so consumed by the daily difficulties of life that they have no time or energy left at the end of the day to think about what is happening to them. And this is exactly why the system drives us at such a frantic, exhausting pace. There is a reason why the media assaults us constantly with conflicting, confusing statistics and there is a reason why we are mercilessly harassed in the workplace. It is done this way so that we become mentally, spiritually and emotionally exhausted, and so that we are unable to step back from the insanity and assess what is being done to us.
God says:
"My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge."
Hosea 4:6
The history of humanity is a story of people being oppressed, butchered, deceived and betrayed by a few powerful rulers. Nothing has changed.
And nothing will change until the ruler of this world, Satan the devil, is deposed from his throne and Jesus Christ takes his place. This is what the bible prophesies will happen.
Most people have not studied the bible carefully enough to understand what will happen in the future. For many people, bible knowledge comes second or third hand, from stories they have heard from other people. How many people take the time to actually sit down and read the most important book in the universe?
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 1:58 pm | #

do your own f**king poll. walk outside and ask 10 people the same question...it is more reliable than Zogby.
sane | Homepage | 06.25.07 - 1:39 pm | #

Ecellent advise once again Sane
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 1:53 pm | #

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New York Moves To Ban Public Filming And Photography
Broad rules do not exempt amateur photographers, independent reporters and filmmakers

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Friday, June 29, 2007

With vague reasoning and little explanation, moves are afoot in the city of New York to stamp out all forms of filming in public, be it by professional television crews, protestors or simply by tourists on sightseeing trips.
Some tourists, amateur photographers, even would-be filmmakers hoping to make it big on YouTube could soon be forced to obtain a city permit and $1 million in liability insurance before taking pictures or filming on city property, including sidewalks, reports the New York Times.

Though the Mayor’s Office of Film has said that the new rules are not aimed at families on vacation or amateur filmmakers or photographers, the enforcement would require any group of two or more people who want to use a camera in public for more than a half hour to get a city permit and insurance. The same ruling would also apply to any group of five or more people who plan to use a tripod in a public location for more than 10 minutes, including the time it takes to set up the equipment.

Even people simply holding cameras could be subject to the rules, the ACLU says.

The ACLU has pointed out that there is no distinction in the wording of the rules that excludes non professionals and it would be down to the discretion of the police as to whom to enforce the rules upon.

Given that camera crews are routinely threatened with arrest for filming peaceful demonstrations and the fact that cops have been caught stealing protestor's cameras in the past, the new ruling does not bode well for photographers and independent reporters.

Filming in public is a right every American citizen has under the first and fourth amendments, which is why the cops in the cases above had to steal the camera and the footage, because there was no legal basis to seize it.

We have even seen police seize cameras and film from innocent people under bogus charges of "wiretapping". Earlier this month a man was charged in Carlisle, Pennsylvania with filming police officers during a routine traffic stop and faces up to seven years in prison. Last year a North Middleton Twp. man was charged in a street racing case that involved a wiretapping charge. Police claimed the man ordered associates to tape police breaking up an illegal race after officers told him to turn off their cameras. Furthermore, last month a 48-year-old man from Dover, New Hampshire was arrested for "wiretapping" for allegedly recording police while they were investigating him for driving while intoxicated.

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The charge is invalid because it flouts privacy laws. Under the fourth amendment the expectation of privacy is not reasonable at such public places as automobile thoroughfares.

In other words filming on a public highway cannot be classed as an invasion of privacy.

Furthermore, the expectation of privacy is not reasonable if there exists a vantage point from which anyone, not just a police officer, can see or hear what is going on.

With the greater availability of camera technology there have been numerous incidents in recent years where the heavy handed police actions have importantly been caught on camera. Just yesterday we covered a story out of Hot Springs where a cop was caught on film choking out kids merely for skateboarding down the street. Without such evidence the cop might not have been placed on leave and an investigation may not have taken place.

While the Department of Homeland security is throwing money at cities and towns to put cameras everywhere to film the public, and police routinely film public gatherings, the right of citizens to film and photograph in the streets is under direct attack.

In addition, the Mayor of New York is Michael Bloomberg, who owns one of the biggest media outlets in the country. This move also therefore represents a direct conflict of interest on behalf of the mayor's office.

It seems that filming and photographing is now deemed to be a threat per se. Pick from any number of stories archived at www.freedomtophotograph.com for example.

In Seattle, police banned a photography student from a public park. He was taking photographs of a bridge for a homework assignment. The officers who ban him from the park do so without the knowledge of park officials and have no authority to do so.
In Texas a man was first threatened by neighbors and then reportedly accosted and sprayed with pepper spray by police. He was walking around his neighborhood, filming with his new video camera.
In New York, National Press Photographers Association members staged a protest in the New York subway system to bring attention to a proposed law to ban photography in the subway system.
In Philadelphia a magazine photographer was detained and questioned after a parade for taking architectural shots while waiting for a subway train.
In Harrisburg, PA a man was swarmed by 8 Police and accused of being a member of Al-Qaeda after shooting pictures of his new car under a bridge.
Such moves represent an attack on freedom of the press, liberty in general and the flow of information. They set a precedent for a national ruling to crack down on documentation of important events and incidents and give police the power to selectively enforce unconstitutional measures to restrict freedom.
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 1:48 pm | #

Ron Paul on the issues:
http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ro...TX/ Ron_Paul.htm
Scanner | 06.29.07 - 12:57 pm | #

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thanks, theres a lot there that really dont look so good.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 1:47 pm | #

Ron Paul on the issues:
http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ro...TX/ Ron_Paul.htm
Scanner | 06.29.07 - 12:57 pm | #

It is true why doesn't Ron Paul flush out these criminals, he's on the inside, he's in perfect position. But hey he has a huge pension waiting him, must not disrupt that. Who knows, maybe when he's not "selected", then he'll start some shit.
UNITEDWEREFALLING | 06.29.07 - 12:42 pm | #

my personal opinion, if Ron Paul were a man of action, being in there 10 terms he'd know the good from the bad.. and would take action. give a darn he's got "the good voting record" at this point in our nations history, he WONT make a real stand about anything and WONT TAKE ACTION if he DOES get lucky enough to be elected.. if the old man has ANY BALLS left, the time is NOW to purge these traitorous bastards from DC, anything less than this, he's just another politician.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 12:23 pm | #

response to Dr. Ron Pauls last E-mail alert:

immigration and naturalization: of course we already have good laws regarding this subject and they are being totally unenforced, by design from the top down for NAU and NWO crowd. this bill was shot down, geez, 4th time now ?! this illegal, this insistant = treason.

recent "proclaimations" by bush and cheney being above the law and unaccountable to anything is also treasonous. condoleeza rice too busy for a courtroom or hearing, treason.

alberto gonzales taking lessons from ollie "I dont recall" north, also treason.

all the above mentioned are guilty of treason, then theres 9-11-2001 being an inside job to push into an illegal war using Depleted Uranium munitions, scorched earth genocidal weapons totally against ANY international treaty.

DR. PAUL, you know these things yet you tiptoe around these realities out of fear or something. there isnt anyone high ranking in the military who can drag these bastards off in chains for treason?! 10 terms in congress and youre unsure of yourself ?!

oh gee, I'm so happy youre doing a separate PHOTO OP in IOWA..

the truth is, youre not about DOING ANYTHING REAL.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 12:12 pm | #

How can anyone, put in so much time into something, at SUCK at it so badly?
Rich | 06.29.07 - 5:34 am | #
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Have you seen "One Night in Paris"?

Sorry, but I can't resist....
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 11:28 am | #

Bolshevist Jew World Order..... all this suffering just over shitty little Israel which is never going to the the capital of the Earth, no matter what they try.
Rich | 06.29.07 - 11:21 am | #

Rich, you are back to recruiting I see, gave up on the dividing to do a little recruiting???

Oh well too bad your past is well documented on these threads.

BTW - when did Dick "The Death Camp King" Cheney become a Jew? Are you saying that he is now of the same religion as Jesus is? I find this hard to believe.

Please elaborate with references, logic, evidence.

Thanking you in advance for your continued effort in this patriotic duty
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 11:26 am | #

What I find interesting about Cheney, and this is true of a lot of other people, is his wildest dreams.

It begins with, what he actually does. Like: they torture people. Or 9-11 inside job. Things he really did. From there, he has things he tries. He is a new branch of government. He wants this or that.

But eventually you get deeper, to something no less real. IF, just IF in a Twilight Zone, Cheney had all the power, to do ANYTHING HE WANTS. If he could snap his fingers, and make any law he thinks up into reality... what would he do.

Clearly, no one, and certainly not Cheney gets to make their ever whim a reality. To judge but what he has done, and what he has tried to do, the actual depths of his desires have to be this - Bolshevist slaughterhouse of gulags and secret police.

Orwell in 1984 said many brilliant things. I think of how, language gets destroyed. The very words for certain things no longer exist, so no one can speak or think of them.

The Bolshevist-Zionist-Neocons make Propaganda. A lie. A useful political lie, but a lie. The lie is told as a truth in the media. So it is a lie, but you pretend it is true.

Then, like withthe real internet news of today, people expose the propaganda as a lie. It was a lie. But the Bolshevist liars call the truth a lie.

Is there a word for this 'criminal against the bolshevism'?

Cheney, in his desires, does want the person who tells the truth, arrested for lying by telling the truth, for their treason against him and patriotism to the country.

Words that don't exist to describe an every day situation.

Cheney wants to kill people, for being patriots. Patriotism = Treason. Truth = lies.

Bolshevist Jew World Order..... all this suffering just over shitty little Israel which is never going to the the capital of the Earth, no matter what they try.
Rich | 06.29.07 - 11:21 am | #

Kucinich is a traitor that should be castrated and then hung. The rest of his cronies should receive some good 'ole NWO torture before they die.

Death to all those bastards!
Reality Man | 06.29.07 - 11:20 am | #

And speaking of Impeachment Proceedings
-- (posted elsewhere in this forum) --

Congressman Kucinich (quote) // 13 Jun 07
***extract***
http://kucinich.house.gov/News/ D...ocumentID=67490
Since the introduction of the resolution the Vice President has continued along the path of conduct that led me to file the articles of Impeachment.

“The Vice President actively and systematically sought to deceive the citizens and Congress about an alleged threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. He has purposely manipulated the intelligence process to deceive us about the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda. And he openly lied to the America people and has publicly threatened aggression against Iran.

“Since the introduction, seven Members of Congress have signed on as co-sponsors of the resolution. They are Albert Wynn (D-MD), Barbara Lee (D-CA), Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), Yvette Clarke (D-NY), William Lacy Clay (D-MO), Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) and Maxine Waters (D-CA). Congresswomen Lee and Woolsey are co-chairs of the Progressive Caucus, the largest caucus in the Democratic Party.

“And with me now is the most recent cosponsor of H.Res. 333 – a woman who’s the driving force in organizing Democrats to try to come up with a strategy to try and take this country out of Iraq – Maxine Waters.

“Congresswoman Maxine Waters’ support on this issue is of national significance. She has demonstrated a capacity for courage and determination that everyone knows and everyone respects. And I’m proud to have her join this effort.

“I believe this is another milestone. With the support of the leaders of the Progressive Caucus and the leader of the Out of Iraq Caucus we will see more and more Members of Congress signing on in this effort to save our Constitution and protect the very values that bind us as a nation.”
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 10:40 am | #

Quotes and more, fom our decider and chief:
http://www.dubyaspeak.com/ freshd...reshdubya.phtml
Have a great day all!
Scanner | 06.29.07 - 10:20 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...0607Impeach.htm

yes to impeaching cheney, but this means bush, rice, gonzales, all of thier appointees and minions, and probably half of congress or more.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 9:41 am | #

It has been rumoured that George Bush is, in fact, the grandson of Aleister Crowley (the occultist and "Wickedest man in the world.", as one newspaper described him at the time). The rumour is based on circumstantial evidence concerning a relationship between Crowley and Bush's grandmother and also on photographic evidence of facial similarities between Crowley and Bush's mother, Barbara. I don't know if the rumour is true, and I am certainly not claiming that it is, but isn't it interesting that Crowley's core philosophy was "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."? Isn't that exactly the core philosophy of Bush and the people that he has gathered around him in his administration, who believe that they have a moral right to do anything they like, unrestrained by either Constitution, the law, or the democratic wishesl of the people?
Alouet | 06.29.07 - 9:24 am | #

The guy's a Dork.

Check this out as regards a blind reporter being told to remove his sunglasses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...related& search=
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 9:21 am | #

Video of a comment made to Dick Gregory by our pres regarding how he is looking today. What do ya 'think?

http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=0
Scanner | 06.29.07 - 9:09 am | #

9-11 TRUTHER -- Well said. Lot of truth in your words.

I want to take this one step further (back even before JFK) // of course with his murder our country did speed along even faster in a direction of corruption and greed -- no question about that.

But looking at Pearl Harbor and knowing today that Roosevelt KNEW in advance that the Japanese intended on attacking Pearl Harbor BUT allowed it to happen // Hey, something like that speaks of the same damn thing -- corrutpion and greed. Japan, Italy, Germany were all linked as one and the USA striking back at what Japan did to us (Pearl Harbor) sent us like a sling shot into WWII whereby fighting one we had to fight all three // and we did, and we prevailed. But only after dropping TWO atomic bombs (nuclear) on TWO otherwise innocent cities. The only country in the entire world to do something of such horrific nature. And as I have come to understand more of this corruption and greed -- Our President back then (Truman) KNEW that the war was coming to an end and that was before deciding to TEST a new bomb // and who better to test it on than an enemy? Terrible thing, for sure.

But you're right -- JFK's murder was a terrible thing as well. Especially when the table seems to be turning and we learn that the President that was to take his place (LBJ) may have very likely been involved in the shooting plot. Not Cuba as we were all told back then. Take a look at the Northwoods Operation (1962) and see how our government around that time BEFORE Kennedy was murdered wanted so badly to blame a reason for war on Cuba // all lies // false flag -- just like Pearl Harbor -- just like Iraq today.

We most likely could even step this further back in time. Corruption and greed. There's othing 'new' in a proposal for a New World Order.
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 8:31 am | #

I think they lied to our country quite well.
Joe in CA | 06.29.07 - 5:57 am
ALOT of the blame has to lie also with American sheeple WHO LET THEM DESTROY OUR PRECIOUS NATION AND FREEDOMS TOO! ALOT OF BLAME LIES WITH SHEEPLE TOO WHO ARE GULLIBLE, NAIVE AND PUT BUSH OR SOME OTHER POLITICIAN OF EITHER PARTY ABOVE OUR NATION OR FREEDOMS! Who has done next to nothing to save America as too busy with their lives or can't pick up phone for 5 minutes to call to help save America, much less riot in streets to save it! I know of several people who think their civic duty ends with voting! WRONG! Voting alone is NOT being a good American citizen! Defending our precious freedoms takes daily vigil! Especially from these treasonous, mass murdering, behind 9-11, Satan worshipping, bastards we have in our govt! Our nation was destroyed when they murdered JFK and did NOT demand a REAL investigation and did NOT demand NO 75 years til truth came out! People should have RIOTED BACK THEN! Ever since JFK's murder our nation has gone down hilll steadily ever since! EVERY WAR WAS STARTED OVER LIES,LIES AND MORE LIES! NAM, GULF WAR I, Iraq, Afghanistan and I pray NOT soon to be Iran and YET GULLIGLE, NAIVE STUPID SHEEPLE STILL DON'T RIOT OR STOP LETTING THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS ENLIST SO ELISTS CAN WAR PROFITEER OFF THEIR DEAD KIDS! Mind blowing how stupid, and gulllible American sheeple are most of time! And New World Order plays on it too!
9-11 truther | 06.29.07 - 8:14 am | #

Cavuto is such a lamebrain. I loved fr Paul's comment about in respsonse the taxes paying for the building he was standing in by reminded Cavuto that the building was put up before the income tax.
Apparently that statement was too much for Cavutos limited intellectual capacity to process.
Alex Paulsen | 06.29.07 - 8:06 am |
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Yeah, I also thought that was a great 'come back' at the loud mouth that kept pressing Dr. Paul // The guy was obviously intent on trying to put words in Dr. Paul's mouth but ended up (in my estimation) of biting his own tongue off. What a jerk he was.
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 8:13 am | #

I think they lied to our country quite well.
Joe in CA | 06.29.07 - 5:57 am
Well said and also f*cked it up more and totally destroyed it too! But then, we sheeple LET THEM DO IT TOO, without so much as mass riots in streets either or hanging any of them for TREASON, which not only does Bush and Cheney deserve but majority in Congress do too! Their all or most all part of NWO is WHY they are doing this to out and out PURPOSEDLY DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN!
9-11 truther | 06.29.07 - 8:05 am | #

Mind Control -- NWO //

Interesting video (9 min; 30 sec)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...related& search=
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 7:52 am | #

A New World Order (NWO) --

Nothing 'new' about it at all. The same old bullsh*t // power hungry greedy fools in charge taking unfair advantage of innocent people those same greedy bastards have been entrusted to serve.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dg9IC65MHEo
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 7:31 am | #

THE NEWS MEDIA>

What news media? Factual and investigative jounalists have their hands tied. If this were not the case, we would not be in the middle of this abomination. In fact all of this could have been avoided, or at the very least the citizens of this nation would know the truth..
Politicians of all parties, for the most part have done nothing to stop these criminals. They have not upheld the constitution of this land. It appears they are lapping up the goodies, shuffling papers and making a fantastic show of the smallest detail to call attention off their true calling as elected officials of this nation and confronting this criminal regime..
Federal agencys, formed to protect the citizens of this nation, have betrayed it. High level employees and political electees.
Military High Echelon, have avoided and degraded their oath to uphold the consitution. Niether humanity nor America is in the forefront of their career. Or simply equate this with lack of moral courage. It must be that their masters have either persuaded them, or their own self interests are above the people and the country.
The population for the most part is in fear, 911 was a productive catalyst for this emotion. Not to forget that WMD's added to the fear. Homeland and FEMA didn not help eliminate their fear. They are buearacratic money makers for the masters.
The segment of people who I refer to as bubble people, are dillusional, and can not accept the fact we are ruled by a criminal element. Others unfortunelty do not give a twit as long as their lifestyle is and order.Add to these facts many people are not informed due to our news media,
Therfor are not involved nor care to research the truth. We must understand that there are people who's given day is but to provide food for their family and pay rent and taxes. Their initiative in life is consumed with the matter of survival on a monetary level.
End. were bankrupt & trillions in debt, war debt over 7oo billion, have killed 760,000 Iraq civilians since our illegal invasion.The consitution & Bill of Rights has been attacked.5000 troopers have ben killed. Domestic survelance was in effect for years, presidentialy ordered.
Enough, I just woke up and so I with hope you can understand the depth of my concern. Not so much for myself, but for our children. The innocent ones. Exactly what legacy, what future do we leave for them.
chris jones | 06.29.07 - 7:19 am | #

"The Worst President and Congress in U.S. History"

Oh come on. What are you talking about!

I think they lied to our country quite well.
Joe in CA | 06.29.07 - 5:57 am | #

I'm sure America will know what to do this time around.

It is like a deja vu all over agian.
Jeb Bush's links to the Florida 911 terrorists flight school and how he issued an executive order on September 7th 2001.

How Marvin Bush provided security for the world trade centers and his fathers connections to the Bin Laden family and it's links to terrorist organizations (after Sept 11) and US corporations that profit from these.

Not to mention Jeb's removal of thousands of voters from the rolls to give his brother the Whitehouse.
One story after the other.

The Bush family is a crime family like no other. They work with the highest levels of government and the lowest criminal factions around the world. They invaded Afghanistan to increase the opium production to 90% , because it was all but stopped by 2001 (opium is now a 500 billion dollar trade) But , America wants control of the world's resources and America always gets what it wants. And since oil is everything to the NWO plan is why the PNAC scheme is moving at a faster pace, simply because the devil knows it has but a short time. Right Condi? That is why the two former oil executives, who are now President and Vice Presiden were stuck in place along with other possibly mind controlled or just plain demonic ridden pyschos like Rumsfeld and Rove, to grab up the final few oil lands and make their masters happy.

By all accounts and the real connections to 911 , America should have invaded Saudi Land and Egypt. But Bush senior told the press to "back off" the Bin Laden family in November of 2001.
2003 "I'm not really worried about Osama right now." President Bush.

Like no other nation on this earth since the Roman empire, America's government is beyond corrupt and is now more than ready and threatens to to nuke any country standing in your way of total world conquest and that makes you the greatest threat to all life on this planet.

America needs to exercise the evil in it's land known as the neo-clut klan.
pariah gait | 06.29.07 - 5:45 am | #

Sane, you should turn your computer off for once, and have some 'you time'.

People working hard doing good works are NEVER ashamed. You are ashamed. Think on that. You are ashamed to be sane. Ashamed at how much you spam. Never heard of a good and just protestor before who was ashamed of protesting too much.

Your kind fail to grasp a LONG list of things. For one, there is NO ONE here to lie to. No one. This is not the mass jew media. People come here precisely because they take nothing at fase value.

Alex JOnes and Rense.com are listed by name by the Department of Justice, and various Neo-con agencies, as the #1 AGENTS OF DISINFORMATION, meaning, saying things the Neocons don't like said.

What does that mean? It means that OBVIOUSLY, they pay attention here, and MEGAPHONE the shit out of this. Of course, you need a suck head loser to devote their life to 'spamming a website' so it is not like they get any winners for the job.

People search through this shit like a journalist, seeking little clues, tidbits. Neocons hate whistle blowers. So they spy on this to catch any who might whistleblow here.

Do you really think, making up a new name, and lol, the REALLY BAD ACTING, of style change is going to fool people? duh, retard... totally new strangers don't suddenly show up at chat zones, and start flapping away like a chummy reg.

It is a hopeless cause. Your mass media techniques are doomed to failure in this arena. No one here believes shit by some simple virtue of being said.

TRUTH is a virus, something you catch. Bullshit, flings and sticks. So you FLING LIKE MAD, hoping anything sticks. A WHISPER of truth, infects all sorts of people simply because they know what they are looking at. So, your techniques for discouraging the general public are worthless here, THERE IS NO GENERAL PUBLIC TO DISCOURAGE, only conspiracy minded people, who DOUBLE CHECK EVERYTHING then triple check it.

How can anyone, put in so much time into something, at SUCK at it so badly?
Rich | 06.29.07 - 5:34 am | #

New names, Sane? Keep trying. You will pull it off someday. Not over me of course, but with someone, hopefully. *sigh*
Rich | 06.29.07 - 5:22 am | #

aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 3:24 am | #

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Eyes On The Ball!
Yes ! Good Posts!
doctor No NWO | 06.29.07 - 5:14 am | #

RCS | 06.28.07 - 11:17 pm Your WRONG about noone figuring it out about New World Order! It's simple! Pure evil Satan worshipping treasonous men and women in U.S. and worldwide worship Satan and ARE OUT TO DESTROY NOT ONLY AMERICA BUT WHOLE WORLD AND ENSLAVE WHOLE WORLD WHILE ALSO MASS MURDERING 80% OF WORLD'S POPULATION, FOR THE ELISTS, LIKE ROTHCHILD AND ROCKEFELLER'S OF WORLD FOR SATAN! While forcing the rest of us into slavery and forcing us into taking the "Mark of the Beast" eventually! WAKE UP TO THESE FACTS! And it's NOT just Alex who thinks so! DO RESEARCH! Google: New World Order quotes! You will see I am right!
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WELL SAID 9-11 truther ! & I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY!
The NEW WORLD ORDER is Made Up of a Bunch of So Called Evil Elite Satanic Fag's with Their Evil puppet Satanic Homosexual Servants & all worship Evil Satan/Lucifer The FAG!

Hey NWO, you all are a Bunch of EVIL puppet Fag's for Your False FAG God = Satan/Lucifer the Big FAG!
Do yourself a Favor & Kill your Selves now! You Evil NWO Fag's will Be Dead Before You Know it when we Get a Hold of You!
The Real God means Business this time! Not That Fag You Evil NWO Satanic Fag bastards Worship!
Why do you all Worship a Fake-God & a Homosexual Lying one at that Like Satan/ Lucifer the Fag?
Did I piss you Evil Bastards off yet? Well it's all Good truth!
I suppose you Evil Fags are Just pure Evil Sick Demented - Twisted Retarded Satanic Puppet Slave Fag's for Satan/Lucifer, Am I RIGHT?
& (Satan/ Lucifer the False God is truly a Big Fag!) & Promised You NWO puppets power & glory over the Earth,
NO WAY! It Will Not Happen Because You All believe A Lying Homosexual Fag (Want to Be) God = SATAN/LUCIFER the Lying Cheating Evil Homosexual!
So all you NWO Evil puppet Fag's that Serve as NWO Slave's Keep Gargling each others Mayonnaise, that's All the Reward you all will Get for Following A Lying Cheating Weak Fag Like Your evil False God Satan/Lucifer, It's The Truth!
What do you all do to each other You Evil Satanic Puppet Fag's at those So called Secret Meetings? = Piss & shit In a Big bowl Then Dip Crackers & Eat it! you Evil Fag's wont think twice about FUCKING EACH OTHER OVER for a higher position of authority in Your Evil Way of Life, & Knife Each other In the Back! There is No Love Lose Between You Evil Satanic Homosexual bastards, This Is Why the NWO is already doomed & You Evil Bastards have lost!
No You Can't beat the Real Thing & The Real God is Coming For You!
One More thing - DIE! you Evil Bastards DIE!
DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER!
doctor No NWO | 06.29.07 - 4:54 am | #

Cheney-Bush Planning
For New 911
By Ted Lang
Exclusive to Rense.com
6-28-7

If there are any doubts about the truth and accuracy of the allegation that the Cheney-Bush regime did 9/11, Dr. David Ray Griffin dispels each and every one of them in his latest book on the subject, Debunking 9/11 Debunking. He again emphasizes the stand-down order angrily reiterated by Cheney as overheard and observed by Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta, and to which the latter offered testimony to that fact during the 9/11 Commission hearings. The 9/11 Commission Report falsified the time of Cheney's presence in the bunker-command center, changing the time as occurring after 10:00 a.m. when in fact Cheney was reported by several as being in the bunker earlier at 9:25 a.m.

Griffin's book also brings General Richard Meyers and Donald Rumsfeld into the deadly cabal that day proving their direct involvement via the emergency teleconference they'd like to pretend they weren't part of, also at a much earlier time than the regime would have US believe. Griffin discusses how "journalist" Michael Bronner, when writing a propaganda piece for Vanity Fair, cleverly time-confused these events by relying upon NORAD tapes selectively given to him for his review by the Cheney-Bush perfumed princes of the military. Griffin makes an excellent case debunking the tapes by pointing out how long Cheney-Bush had them thereby facilitating their tampering, and goes on to prove how the timelines on those tapes conflict with the testimony given by the military during the 9/11 Commission hearings.

Even according to these tapes, Cheney wasn't in the bunker until sometime after 10:00 a.m. on the morning of 9/11. But as mentioned, actual eyewitnesses debunk both the 9/11 Commission Report AND the NORAD tapes. Griffin basically asks: Were the tapes wrong, or was the testimony wrong? Actually, the obvious answer is that either members of the military were lying at the time of their testimony, or the tapes were doctored or selectively edited, or both. Griffin proves that both the Bronner-Vanity Fair NORAD tapes and the 9/11 Commission Report conflict materially with the facts.

Cheney-Bush did 9/11 all right, and they probably have already finished plans for the next domestic terrorist event. But where's the proof you might be prompted to ask. The proof is in their very behavior, which increasingly, and on a daily basis, demonstrates their hatred and contempt for America, its people, and its Constitution. They are becoming braver and more arrogant by the day. They know Congress will not act, and part of the reason is probably that Congress knows already that another 9/11 has been planned and is on the way, and that if they attack Cheney-Bush, it is they, Congress, who will be blamed for having invited the attack by evidencing weakness on the Global War on Terror. GWOT is merely a synonym for the aggressive movement towards a global New World Order. And Cheney-Bush have AIPAC on their side and also ready to strike Congress if need be!

The most obvious anomaly of the Cheney-Bush criminal regime is the reverse order of its hierarchy: Cheney is America's real dictator, and Bush his chimpanzee-monkey boy protégé and the regime's White House Moron heat sink. Complaints of Cheney's meddling in military and foreign policy arrangements between Britain and the United States give credence to Cheney's dominating role. And a video of a Bush photo-video op with the press included a scene showing Cheney, likened to a stalking monster about to pounce if needed, and watching Bush from the rear of the room and behind the cameras. He hovered as if he knew Bush needed watching. And the present Cheney flap with the National Archives over the safeguarding of classified national security documentation led Cheney to assert that NO ONE has "oversight" over his activities. Then, following Cheney's absurd assertion, the chimpanzee-monkey boy chimed in: "Me too!" Neither is answerable to the "goddamned piece of paper," the people of America, or the spineless cowards in Congress.

As has been so often articulated in this space, 9/11 is the very source of this criminal administration's power; debunk their officially-stated conspiracy theory, as Dr. Griffin has done repeatedly, and both their source of unlimited power and their credibility will be forever destroyed. As reported by Steve Watson on Prisonplanet.com in an article posted June 25th entitled "Cheney and Bush Declare Autonomous Dictatorial Powers Exempt themselves from executive branch," Watson writes: "The Vice President and the President have casually declared their offices to be independent of the executive branch and completely autonomous, with Dick Cheney also attempting to abolish agencies his office is supposed to be accountable to." Said another way, Cheney-Bush have abolished the executive branch and replaced it with the Office of Dictator.

Watson references events relative to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and quotes from the Committee's report: "Vice President Cheney exempted his office from the presidential order that establishes government-wide procedures for safeguarding classified national security information. The Vice President asserts that his office is not an 'entity within the executive branch.' As described in a letter from Chairman Waxman to the Vice President, the National Archives protested the Vice President's position in letters written in June 2006 and August 2006. When these letters were ignored, the National Archives wrote to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in January 2007 to seek a resolution of the impasse. The Vice President's staff responded by seeking to abolish the agency within the Archives that is responsible for implementing the President's executive order. In his letter to the Vice President, Chairman Waxman writes: 'I question both the legality and wisdom of your actions. ... [I]t would appear particularly irresponsible to give an office with your history of security breaches an exemption from the safeguards that apply to all other executive branch officials.'"

What is wrong with Congress? Isn't it clear that Cheney runs the country? Where in the Constitution does Cheney get this authority? Certainly he is correct in asserting his only functional responsibility is that of President of the Senate. And he can function in an executive role only when needed to break a tie, which can happen given the possibility of an impasse resultant of an even divide considering two senators per state. But as Cheney claims this constitutional void as a defense for his being immune from the executive branch, he enjoys ruling over this nation based on precisely this very same constitutional void. In other words, there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS for his being the undesignated yet actual ruler of police state America! And it is precisely this lack of constitutional sanction that defeats Congressman Dennis Kucinich's motion for Cheney's impeachment.

Lack of constitutionally defined duties, however, is NO LONGER a viable argument for Cheney. He just abdicated executive branch accountability, while proving true, at the same time, the Alexander Haig assertion: HE IS INDEED IN CHARGE! And don't bother telling me that all of Washington DC doesn't know this! Watson continues citing excerpts from the mass media proving that even they are now beginning to see the dangers of the Cheney-Bush police state. Watson cites articles from not only the Washington Post, but also from the LA Times and theBoston Globe.

And NBC News chimed in as well, and their perspective was also carried by Prisonplanet .com quoting from a piece: "NBC News: Has the vice president gone too far?" The article by David Edwards and Muriel Kane, also posted June 25th, offers: "NBC called Cheney 'a master of stealth, even inside the White House,' describing how he put through HIS policy of holding detainees indefinitely without charges by handing his proposal to the president without the formal staff review. [Emphasis added.] NBC also noted that 'Cheney's influence turns out to be surprisingly wide-ranging,' encompassing everything from cutting the capital gains tax to ending the ban on snowmobiles in national parks."

We finally have nationally recognized news sources reporting that Cheney is 1) in charge of both domestic and foreign policy [national security information] and 2) is initiating as well domestic policy TOTALLY OUTSIDE HIS CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY! How did this come to be? Who cares?! It proves that Cheney is acting in not only an executive role from the White House, but doing so illegally and with the full cooperation of Bush and the Democratic Congress. Cheney, as chief executive, and Bush as deputy, are violations of all constitutional laws separating and specifically defining American governmental powers.

Impeaching at least one of these two co-conspirators was at one time necessary to defeat the neoconservative lunatic plan to launch World War III by nuking Iran to create the chaos needed for the global New World Order government. Now, impeaching them both is IMMEDIATELY necessary to prevent another 9/11! Considering Cheney-Bush insults directed at Congress framed in a you-can't-touch-us attitude, we are giving dangerous signals to this deadly criminal regime which they now obviously view as a green light for yet another 9/11 terrorist act.

As Watson observes later on in his commentary, "Last month it was also reported that a high-level group of government and military officials has been quietly preparing an emergency survival program named 'The Day After,' which would effectively end civil liberties and implement a system of martial law in the event of a catastrophic attack on a U.S. city." Considering the Cheney-Bush track record and the revelations concerning 9/11 documented by
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 3:24 am | #

Everybody Knows The Clock
Is Ticking Yet Nobody
Knows What Time It Is
Jim Kirwan
6-28-7

For most of the last ten days the news from Washington has been punctuated by the bizarre antics of Dick Cheney the man that puts the 'Vice' in the USpresidency. History gave us all a lesson during the Nixon years and Watergate, when the line between the laws and those who either make or enforce those laws was re-emphasized. No one then was allowed to place themselves above or beyond the law. That clock continues to tick: but apparently a lot of people have forgotten that presidents are not gods (or dictators), and that no president is or can ever be, allowed to remain above the laws of this nation that they supposedly lead.

Cheney and his apologists have been making a lot of noise about 'facts not in evidence,' concerning his vices within his role is this government. The claims being made by both Cheney and his invisible staff stretch credulity beyond the breaking point. He is currently claiming that he has a legislative role, because of his capacity as the tie-breaking vote in the Senate. According to the Constitution that does not make the-Vice a part of the legislative branch of government, anymore than it allows him to act as the White House Chief of Staff, without that title being formally conferred.

As for all of Cheney's "other functions" that have been 'given' to him by what has become an "absent without leave president" who is unwilling or unable to do those jobs that are his by virtue of his office. These additional duties should have been challenged at every turn by oversight committees of the Congress-but they gave themselves a semi-permanent vacation after they gave Cheney-Bush that "License to Kill" that enabled the unchecked Invasion of Iraq. Consequently not only has the 'Decider' been allowed to go berserk, but apparently Cheney has been acting for Bush in so many different "official" capacities that no one can tell where one man leaves off and the other begins. (1)

On first glace this seems complex-but in reality if one returns to the basics, there can be no confusion. There is only one president of the United States at a time. The Vice-president is nothing but an empty suit in waiting whose only other 'official' task is to break tie votes in the Senate. Every other job that is given to The-Vice should be delegated on the record and be transparent enough that the public is aware of the duty thus delegated by the president and approved by the congress!

However when all of this is done in secret, even from the other cabinet officers within the government: then questions arise. But no one officially questioned this steady stream of new and dubious 'responsibilities' that The-Vice has given to himself. (2)

The Constitution was written, in part, to give some order to the officers and responsibilities within the government: its definitions and responsibilities cannot be changed without written laws to the contrary. Yet both Cheney and Bush have placed themselves above and beyond the laws that govern this Republic: and for that just like Nixon, these two Outlaws must be held accountable. Nixon was impeached then allowed to resign because too many others in congress would have gone down with him, if his case had been tried before the Senate. Perhaps the same is true today-maybe that's why "Impeachment is off the table!" according to Nancy Pelosi?

One thing is extremely clear: The current confusion over who is actually pulling the strings of this government needs to be sorted out on the record and in public. On Democracy Now today:

"White House Subpoenaed for Domestic Spying Docs

The Senate Judiciary Committee has issued subpoenas ordering the Bush administration to turn over key documents on the National Security Agency program of spying on Americans without court warrants. On Wednesday, subpoenas were delivered to the offices of President Bush, Vice President Cheney, the national security adviser and the Justice Department. The Judiciary Committee is seeking internal discussions on the program's legality and the text of agreements with telecommunications companies that have aided the spying.

Senate Judiciary Chair Patrick Leahy: "We've had a consistent pattern of evasion and misdirection. In some ways it would have been better if they just ignored it. Instead they've evaded and they've tried misdirection. It's unacceptable. It is stonewalling of the worse kind and I think the reaction is spreading to both parties in the senate."

The subpoenas could set off a new legal showdown with the White House, which has until July Eighteenth to comply."

"Roll Call reports today that President Bush has requested $4.75 million in fiscal 2008 to fund the Vice President's operations (parts of which are housed, notably, in the Executive Office Building.)" $4.75 million for a government position that the constitution gives virtually no complex duties to, regardless of this so-called state of war. . . In this light Mary Lyon asks us all: "Are you Okay with this?" (3)

It's our money that is being used; our people that are wearing the uniforms that are prosecuting the wars of occupation, and our reputation that is being shredded in service to completely unworkable policies the world over. Millions of people have died; millions more have been displaced or mutilated in these unilateral military actions that were created from nothing more than a huge pack of deliberate and deceptive lies. Like it or not the facts on the ground belong to us - just as according to Bush himself: 'He owns the Iraq War.'

It's way past time for both Cheney & Bush to begin to pay for their actions, in public, and on the record. These two must answer those subpoenas and appear before the congress-and the public needs to keep the heat on the White House-to do just that!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 3:21 am | #

The real problem is the need for money thats causing all this hate on both sides of this culture war and the land we call america was theirs to begin with the people today CAN'T help that their ancestors didn't have the firepower to hold on to what was theirs so they run over because AMERICA made Mexico the shitty country that it is to day with the anti-freedom laws that we have about drugs and plants; the drug war we inflected on them has made them come over here this government has made them poor. To solve all this bullshit is to abolish all anti-freedom laws, boarders, and money to evolve in to one society that is equal and rich with peace of mind. anything else like enforcing the current laws or making new ones will not work ever.
andy self | 06.29.07 - 2:47 am | #

You are a coward and traitor.
MY ancestors conquered this land in a war against Mexico, and in case your dumass has forgotten, TO THE VICTOR GOES THE SPOILS,
Its because of historically ignorant asses like you that the La Raza gets most of the support for their ILLEGAL INVASION of soveirn U.S. territory!
WHITE-CHRISTIAN -anti-Semite | 06.29.07 - 2:57 am | #

The real problem is the need for money thats causing all this hate on both sides of this culture war and the land we call america was theirs to begin with the people today can help that their ancestors didn't have the firepower to hold on to what was theirs so they run over because AMERICA made Mexico the shitty country that it is to day with the anti-freedom laws that we have about drugs and plants; the drug war we inflected on them has made them come over here this government has made them poor. To solve all this bullshit is to abolish all anti-freedom laws, boarders, and money to evolve in to one society that is equal and rich with peace of mind. anything else like enforcing the current laws or making new ones will not work ever.
andy self | 06.29.07 - 2:45 am | #

The world, people, do not work that way. I think of Dr Campbell and his comparative mythology studies. What we are as human beings, is a timeless thing. Our story, plays out over and over because our natures do not really change over the centuries.

The NORMAL person. The AVERAGE person. Just think about those words. Like the word exceptional. Exceptionally smart, or exceptionally wise. Exceptional people TEACH normal people. Normal people hear EXCEPTIONAL things all day long. And they by their nature, feel like they are those things too, but because they are lazy or by choice, dont act exceptional as they are.

In fact, normal people are not exceptional.

Example: You are driving your car and someone cuts you off. People tend to think, 'That person was mean to me.' In fact, that person functions are far too low a level, to know you even existed. Never saw you. Never crossed their minds you exist at all, much less what you would like or what would make you angry.

The 'evil' people are the same. The are simple people, with simple minds. They act out of greed and stupidity.

What is true, is back to the word exceptional. I know all these things. But, my enlightenment has attached my life to good things. Other people who 'know' ARE evil. What makes them evil, MAKES THEM EVIL, is the KNOWING, and then exploiting that knowing.

Do they USE the stupid greedy people? OH YES.

A good test on all this is the propaganda. On one hand, you have explorers into this filth, who think, 'they all KNOW it was an inside job'.. or 'they all know they are betraying the country'.

I doubt that very much. They are far too stupid to know, far to greedy to bother to give a flying shit. What the immigration bill will or will not do, never even CROSSED THE MINDS of most of them.

They great apparatus of money and influence knocked on their door, told them how they were voting, they voted that way, then went back to molesting their interns.

Satanism? Child sex? Drugs? Drinking? Oh Yes! The stuff of the little mind, the opiates of the foolish, distractions fed to them by their diabolical masters.

Part of 'social systems' a HUGE part, is making sure exceptional people NEVER GET IN THE FRONT DOOR. The little minded peons marching around congress and Washington, do not think like you.

It is flattery to say, 'they thought, they decided, they betrayed.' Exceptional people do those things.

They are not pretending to be stupid. They are the real thing.
Rich | 06.29.07 - 2:43 am | #

"Modest" increase in phone calls to Senate MY ASS! They were SWAMPED with people calling against the horrorible, treasonous amnesty bill! "MODEST" MY ASS! So GET MORE PHONE LINES!
9-11 truther | 06.29.07 - 2:19 am | #

Hmm, Sane DOES NOT EVEN BOTHER TO DENY, that he has no job, he has no family. The time indexes on his endless spam prove that. He does NOTHING ELSE, but spam here, all hours of day and night, 7 days a week......

and... he is not a disinfo spammer... with a background like his, how can he not be trusted...

haha
Rich | 06.29.07 - 1:06 am | #

Still here, Sane? Well, you are never not here. Do you get paid for your disinformation? You do it out of loyalty?

How many posts you make a day, Sane?
NO NEED TO ASK, why you are TOO ASHAMED to answer that question. Take that for granted.

"My life of spamming Alex Jones with lies," screenplay by Sane.

I guess you cant say how many posts you make a day, since you think it is a secret you use all those OTHER NAMES to post too.

How many posts you spam daily? 2,500?
Rich | 06.29.07 - 1:04 am | #

Did you know this is Greenspan's wife?
Andrea Mitchell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ And...Andrea_Mitchell
Mitchell graduated with a B.A. in English literature from the University of Pennsylvania in 1967, where she served as News Director of student radio station WXPN. She joined Philadelphia NBC affiliate KYW radio and TV as a reporter that same year.

After several years at KYW, she moved to CBS affiliate WTOP in Washington, DC in 1976. Two years later, Mitchell moved to NBC's network news operation, where she served as a general correspondent. In 1979, she was named NBC News’ Energy correspondent and reported on the late 1970s energy crisis and the Three Mile Island nuclear accident. Mitchell also covered the White House from 1981 until becoming Chief Congressional Correspondent in 1988.

She has been the Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent for NBC News since November 1994. Previously, she had served as Chief White House Correspondent (1993-1994) and Chief Congressional Correspondent (1988-1992) for NBC News.

Mitchell, who is jewish, married her second husband, Alan Greenspan, formerly the Federal Reserve Chairman, in 1997. Her husband, first appointed to the position in August 1987 by President Reagan, retired in 2006. Previously, she was married to Gil Jackson; a marriage that ended in divorce in the mid 1970s.
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 12:37 am | #

http://www.worldreports.org/ news...span_jailed_as_

Has anyone seen this, it's saying Alan Greenspan has been Jailed, check it out, let me know, cos it seems a bit unreal at the mo.
cop-KILLA | 06.28.07 - 10:39 pm | #
yeap, about time | 06.29.07 - 12:30 am | #

tired, any input????
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 12:33 am | #

LOL, every time I come back to this place I realize what a bunch of brainless fucktards you all really are.

LMFAO

This is so funny
I See Stupid People | 06.29.07 - 12:30 am | #

US detains farmed Chinese seafood
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ US_...C_06282007.html
Chemicals found in fish, shrimp, eel spark superbug scare among Feds.

Top US judge pushes secret terror trials
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....om% 3Dpublic_rss
Judge pushes secret trials, Muslim surveillance, and bending Constitution.

DA refuses 'Catch a Predator' cases
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....2Fid% 2F19486893
Texas DA says Dateline pedophile sting TV show 'amateur,' tainted charges.

White House seals trade deals as clock ticks on fast-track
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ Whi...l_06282007.html
President George W. Bush's administration stepped up efforts Thursday to hammer down a series of bilateral free-trade agreements under a special negotiating authority that opposition Democrats plan to let expire.
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 12:17 am | #

US Ignites Nuke Race
http://freemarketnews.com/WorldN...s.asp? nid=44429
The only deterrent for some countries from being next on "Washington's hit list" is to have nuclear weapons themselves, a new policy report concludes. The report, released this week by the Independent Institute...

Largest US Prison Inmate Increase Since 2000
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...in2987952.shtml
Prisons and jails added more than 42,000 inmates last year alone, the largest increase since 2000. The total number of people incarcerated by federal or state authorities in the year ending June 30, 2006, was roughly 1.6 million.

Destroyer turned to peices by torpedo
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/54...d_by_a_torpedo/
A cool video made by the military about the effect of a torpedo on an American destroyer. The torpedo doesn't actually hit the destroyer, but it detonates a few meters under it, causing a big void. When water surges to replace that void, the force it creates, splits the destroyer in half. A really cool and amazing video

Rich Brit who lives in a 14th-century castle lives on state benefits!
http://www.swns.com/photoshoot.p...hoot.php? ID=412
A toff who lives in an historic stately home says he is so poor - he is claiming state BENEFIT. Posh Edward Simpson, 32, runs Burton Court, a Grade II-listed 14th-century manor house complete with 15 bedrooms and 19 acres

Swarms of ATF agents sent to eat out firearms dealers' substance
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56389
Firearms dealers are having their licenses revoked for inconsequential procedures violations and clerical errors by 5th-column badge-heavy judge/jury/executioner unelected bureaucrats. Legitimate sources for firearms are being driven out of business. Dealers are appealing to the people and to elected officials for justice.

Fox News is Disgusting
http://www.banapana.com/politics...s-is- disgusting
Fox News should have to apologize for the way they treated the Honorable Ron Paul.

Bearded dragon with two heads born in California [I do not fucking like two headed dragons!!!]
http://www.eitb24.com/new/en/B24...-heads-born-in/
Barbara Witte who breeds bearded dragons in her home in Fresno, says she has never seen a two-headed baby bearded dragon till that moment. It was born a week ago, and now each head has been named.
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 12:11 am | #

Media Matters:AP uncritically reported reasons for excluding Ron Paul
http://mediamatters.org/items/20...ms/ 200706280007
The Associated Press uncritically reported that Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul was excluded from the Iowa presidential forum because, according to one of the groups sponsoring the event, Paul "didn't meet the criteria the groups drew up,"....
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Guys, everyone in media trusts media matters for their unbiased reporting and in depth analysis of facts.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:57 pm | #

Tired, no offense but I just got done with this link and it looks like a mirror of dockers rhetoric:
http://100777.com/plan
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:35 pm | #

Ok i just checked and that one was mislabeled and subsequntly placed into the wrong data base. it was supposed to be in the propoganda base to be cross referenced with things that show it to be propoganda. But Usually the 100777 sites have better things on them than that, so i can only guess that they too had it mislabeled as well
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 11:38 pm | #

No big deal, I read the hell out of that stuff to see where reality shifts to deception. It is very useful foridentifying similar arguments against all races/religions/nationalities. It is usually identical tactics depending on who is the "target of the day."
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:52 pm | #

Tired, no offense but I just got done with this link and it looks like a mirror of dockers rhetoric:
http://100777.com/plan
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:35 pm | #

100777 usually puts better stuff on their sites, i guess i just didn't catch it, Or it was mislabled in the data base. I have about 20 others that assist me to find all the stuff for our databases, so it is going to happen occasionally.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 11:32 pm | #

Anyone who denies 911 as an inside job is either brainless or heartless. I'm glad I don't clutch life as a person that is afraid to go to hell where they are all going. Really owning the world is for some kind of idiot. It won't work. 50 people want one seat.
Sony | 06.28.07 - 11:28 pm | #

Bush called out for his earmarks
http://thehill.com/leading-the-n...2007-06- 28.html
Democratic and Republican appropriators are accusing Bush of urging Congress to pack spending bills with pet projects despite his high-profile crackdown on earmarks this year. A House Appropriations Committee report accompanying legislation funding the Department of the Interior shows that Bush requested 93 of the 321 earmarks in the bill.

Scientists Racing to Harvest Antimatter Atoms
http://news.softpedia.com/news/S...oms- 58088.shtml
So it's by far not enough to use as a fuel for the propulsion of starships, like those in seen in Star Trek, where the energy of matter-antimatter annihilation is harnessed to create a warp bubble, or in weapons applications like the photon torpedoes.

The US Attorney Firings Expose a Deeper Plot
http://gdaeman.blogspot.com/2007...eeper- plot.html
Just one aspect of the Bush administration's criminal activity.

U.N. uselessness revealed, again - by Hal Lindsey
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56329
In this very sad commentary about the U.N., Hal Lindsey tells us how the U.N. would not label the murder of hundreds of thousands of people, mostly Christians, as genocide. And in fact, the Secretary-General explained that all the death and mayhem in Darfur is due to global warming, and of course, that is America's fault, so some people would say.

Inevitable: Democrats Demanding The US Pull Out Of Afghanistan Too
http://thehill.com/leading-the-n...2007-06- 26.html
When they won control of Congress in November, Democrats pressed their case to withdraw troops from Iraq and refocus on Afghanistan, but some are growing impatient with U.S. operations in Afghanistan as well.

Hitler in Reverse - Occupation 101
http://yannone.blogspot.com/2007...pation- 101.html
The People America rescued from Hitler's death camps have since turned on humanity... This is the same America-supported Israel that continues a brutal ethnic cleansing campaign in Palestine to this very minute.

Alaska scientist uses isotopes to trace marijuana
http://www.alaskareport.com/sf11068.htm
Police officers don't often get a straight story when they ask a driver where he got that bag of marijuana under his car seat. In the near future, they might be able to ask the marijuana itself.

Fox News and Venezuela: How the Network Has Misinformed Its Viewers
http://counterpunch.org/ liebertz...tz06212007.html
Perhaps ironically FOX News should be applauded for giving so much coverage to Venezuela - not necessarily a "popular" story. But unfortunately the highest-rated network so thoroughly butchered the truth, that it is not surprising that many Chavez supporters are becoming conspiracy theorists vis-à-vis the US media.

"Property Six" music video release and Ron Paul performance in Las Vegas
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/F...m? InfoNo=020580
Rap-n-Roll band "Property Six" revs up their Revolution with a new music video release (link), and will be in Las Vegas for the other Revolution to entertain the crowd at Ron Paul's visit in July. Paul-a-Polooza indeed.

15 Reasons Why Rudy Giuliani Sucks
http://www.who-sucks.com/people/...-giuliani- sucks
A list of reasons why 2008 presidential hopeful mayor Rudy Giuliani is not a great guy.

Brownback Scrubs Website of Earlier Immigration Vote
http://www.iowaindependent.com/s....do? diaryId=444
Senator Sam Brownback - a contender for president - has removed a press release from his website in which he explained why he voted for cloture on the Senate's massive illegal immigration amnesty bill. Down the memory hole!

Chris Dodds Corrupt Background
http:// thethoughtsontheworld.blo...background.html
Click to read more.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:23 pm | #

Jews are smart but they sure are stupid. Maybe they are just greedy but now we know who runs the show. How come they don't google 'ringworm children'?
Sony | 06.28.07 - 11:17 pm | #

DEATH TO THE NWO!
& THAT DAY IS COMING FOR YOU EVIL NWO BASTARDS VERY SOON!
doctor No NWO

Such a generic term "It's the NEW WORLD ORDER" It's the perfect trap, it will always be this big monster that nobody will ever figure out.

Genius, Alex Jones, just genius

ILLUMINATI, NEW WORLD ORDER, GERMANIC DEATH CULTS, LUCIFERIANS

LOL!!
RCS | 06.28.07 - 11:17 pm | #

Rothdchilds, Morgans and Rockefellers make Hiltler look like a bad boy! Illuminati. I used to think it was crazy but now that I know NOTHING mainstream says is true!
Sony | 06.28.07 - 11:12 pm | #

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name.
WHITE-CHRISTIAN -anti-Semite | 06.28.07 - 11:12 pm | #

The Smyrna document prophesizes the risen Antichrist, and foretells the treachery of the Jews at the time of his coming, and exhorts the faithful to steadfastness unto death in battle. The second bit is an affirmation from a psychopath that he is armed and in the mood to fulfill the part that says, "...whoever killeth you thinks he does a service to God."
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:03 pm | #

awwwww freddy, why did you leave out the paret about them being "fake" jews? Why did you leave out this piece of info????

Is it because you want to use the fake jews as an excuse to take ALL the Jews o Big Bick Cheney's Death Camps sponsored by GE and Halliburton???
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:08 pm | #

Video the authorities like police and the abuse they do

Bring the faces of evil to the people's attention show there abuse publically then the rats will start running like cock roaches for they know they are serving evil and are abusing there powers as law inforcement officers. Unforgivable behaviours must never be tolerated.

with all the video cameras out there they cannot keep there abuse silent. The guilty ones will be shown publically and they better find deep rat holes to hide for the innocent good people have enough of big brother's abuse.

Time big brother gets what he deserves.
They like to play tough well we will video tape there behaviours and those who abuse the powers that are trustly given to them will have to answer the abuse they do.

Good people of America united we will defeat these evil bumbs, that hide behind a badge to abuse good people. Like that police with the skateboard guy, POWER TRIPS

We are lucky many police are not evil and use there commun sence, lets hope they can stand up to the evil one's that are serving the Neo Cons.

Peace to all nice people
sam | 06.28.07 - 11:07 pm | #

so what do ya think??
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:34 pm | #

Basic stuff, what of it?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:06 pm | #

And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, ...and the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. ...Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

I tend toward the following: "...when the time is right for a sword, then I have one." ...He said. "...He that lives by the sword, shall by the sword perish!" ...So what do ya think. Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:34 pm | #

The Smyrna document prophesizes the risen Antichrist, and foretells the treachery of the Jews at the time of his coming, and exhorts the faithful to steadfastness unto death in battle. The second bit is an affirmation from a psychopath that he is armed and in the mood to fulfill the part that says, "...whoever killeth you thinks he does a service to God."
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:03 pm | #

And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet [are] like fine brass;
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last [to be] more than the first.
Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
But that which ye have [already] hold fast till I come.
And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
And I will give him the morning star.

What is this messege??
GAK,sane,anyone
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:59 pm | #

DEE-DEE-DEE

I work for the NWO, I am Gay and take it in the Arse.
You can beat me before you fuck me if you like.
I like to ware womens clothes, and I will suck anyones cock.
I'm frightend of the NWO anddecided to join up, and fight everyone else. I like the boys who work at the docks best.
Freddy Fat | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:09 pm | #
AND WHATS YOUR POINT?
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:51 pm | #

US vaccine case may have big implications

http://www.abc.net.au/news/audio.../12/ 1949438.htm

Transcript
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content...07/ s1949438.htm

Good to see the Australian People Are getting the Message on the Dangers of these NWO made Vaccines, Yes! Spread the Word!

News from the past > MMR legal bid blocked
& here we Have some NWO BBC bullshit spin from the past in Oct /2003, you can see how these Evil bastards work to misinform the Population!
MMR jab is highly controversial
Campaigners have had to shelve plans for legal action over the controversial measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/healt...lth/ 3155538.stm

Hey NWO, We will Not Let it Rest UNTILL JUSTICE WILL BE DONE & YOU & YOUR NWO DRUG COMPANIES ARE IN PRISION FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO THE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD!
YOU HAVE COMITTED CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY & KNOWINGLY DESTROYED THE LIVES OF CHILDREN WORLD WIDE!
YOU WILL ALL BE JAILED FOR YOU CRIMES & IF IT WAS UP TO ME TO DECIDE , I WOULD GIVE YOU NWO EVIL BASTARDS A LEATHAL INJECTION OF DEATH FOR YOUR EVIL CRIMES!
NO TRIAL FOR THE NWO, ONLY DEATH FOR YOU EVIL BASTARDS!

DEATH TO THE NWO!
& THAT DAY IS COMING FOR YOU EVIL NWO BASTARDS VERY SOON!
doctor No NWO | 06.28.07 - 10:46 pm | #

I am the power. ( Late night lunacy.)
You will pay what is taxed of you, this will be enforced by my tireless agents of the IRS.
You will send your children to war for we offer free of charge -bottom feeders, pissants and peons a chance of acquiring a future should they live.
You will not question our motives, as you are well aware we are your govenment elected officials and have your interest at heart. We are true and faithfull to our country and its people.
You will read our literature and formulate your beleifs as we will guide you.
You will cheer for us, and you will rally for this country with flag in hand.
Our code of secrecy is well protected by our NSA and of course many other agencys, please dont strain your thought process and attempt to investigate our various objectives , not only would it disorganize your thought process, but it may effect you mentaly and we would be burdened to clarify and clear your mind.
If in fact our camps and medical personell can not enlighten you, unfortunelty you will be considered a domestic terrorist, in that case you will be considered a enemy of the state, no habeus corpos would apply. This would mean in fact you are beyond our help.
Our enlightened government has eliminated millions of civilians who may have one day been your enemy, there is no need to thank us, we did this for you our citizens.
You will be pleased to know that we are capable of destroying this eath well over 3 times,which of course kepps our enemies at bay, that our nuclear and chemical arsenal is the largets globaly.
That are weaponry is high tech, the most expensive globably. Almost Godlike.
Homeland security will protect you and yours, we will weed out tthe rabble rousers and disidents, those who speak against this great country of ours, our county of freedom and justice. Our freinds and allies, Blackwater Security personell will be attached to Homeland Security, and other federal agencies to insure our freedoms.
It is your sacred and required duty to expose any citizen who may speak against us, we must be united for the good of our land and its people.
Please know, If your sons or daughters die in our wars of liberation, be proud, hang high your flag for all to see your sacrifice for your great nation. Do not concern yourselfs with the cost of burial , our great Governmet provides for this with dignity and honors given for the sacrifice.
Continue to honor your Commander and Chief, for he sacrifices his days and his nights in your behalf, to keep your freedoms intact.
We will continue survelance of domestic air and line communications traffic, to insure your safety.
Terrorists will infitrate our land, however we our prepared . Our alert codes will keep the public posted continualy, in the event of any threat, be it chemical, nuclear, or any domestic resistance to our nation we will be alerted to it and quickly overcome such terorist inhabitants of our great land. remember God Bless America, stand beside her.
Should members of your family become mentaly deranged, and speak out against our government, come to us, we await you with open arms, for should this in fact take place in your family, if a member of your family unit becomes mentaly unbalaced, we will provide the help your loved one is in need of.
Remember we have killed millions upon millions to insure our countrys safety. Be proud that your tax money was the key to our great strength, to fight the good fight, to keep the terrorists at bay.
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 10:42 pm | #

And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

what is so hard to understand about this statement to the Church at Smyrna??
Sane.
GAK
Sees things
any other bible knowers please
talk to me

I tend toward the following:
when the time is right for a sword, then I have one(as when I wore a shield)
But on the other hand He said~~~
"He that lives by the sword, shall by the sword perish!"

so what do ya think??
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:34 pm | #

Freddy Fat | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:09 pm | #

GAK is that you???
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:16 pm | #

I work for the NWO, I am Gay and take it in the Arse.
You can beat me before you fuck me if you like.
I like to ware womens clothes, and I will suck anyones cock.
I'm frightend of the NWO anddecided to join up, and fight everyone else. I like the boys who work at the docks best.
Freddy Fat | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:09 pm | #

me and 2 and a man named boo,livin and lovin on the land
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:08 pm | #

Article to defund the big Dick:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/129398...-re-Dick- Cheney
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:01 pm | #

Putin's Arctic invasion: Russia lays claim to the North Pole - and all its gas, oil, and diamonds

Daily LIES, LIES and even bigger LIES Mail
Thursday, June 28, 2007
------------------------------------

You puke for the NWO, you aren't trusted, therefore you have to get live video of anything Putin says. Get it you LIEING FUCKS.
Also why don't you mention Putin giving the NWO Satan Salute, with the index and little fingers on one hand held aloft in a secret signal to his counter parts in the West.
We know he is another Fucking Masonic Arse Raped Child, who wouldn't dare say shit or he'll be exposed.
Is that to much truth for the Daily LIES Mail. I notice you don't even put a journalists name on the Lie story today.
cop & Journalist-KILLA | 06.28.07 - 10:00 pm | #

VACCINE COVER UP!
http://www.newstarget.com/011764.html

Please enjoy the Site people
doctor No NWO | 06.28.07 - 9:56 pm | #

Why would I join your site ...I don't understand can you explain please... sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:20 pm | #

Since you are a Jew and silent re Schweitzer, I would not have you on board...
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:41 pm | #
_____________________

Really, you are already categorizing the jews, this early in Prescott's Final Solution???

I am as much of a jew as Jesus, Gandhi, or MLK.

Would they also not be allowed into your treasure chest of knowledge?

What about Blacks? are they allowed?

What about Mexicans?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:46 pm | #

SANE = Well Known Planted Spammer DISINFO TURD - doing a VERY BAD JOB - since everyone knows you as THAT.

Nice posts Rich and you are exactly right about Sane, EXACTLY. He is one of Jones stooges used to steer the propaganda.
RCS | 06.28.07 - 9:41 pm | #

OMG - please don't tell anyone the truth. ooooooh
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:44 pm | #

So join up... when you have a low number everyone will know that you were among the first... The parameters for membership are that a meaningful effort, ie assisting the prosecution process for the murder of Katherine Schweitzer, and that includes prosecuting the police who have ignored vital evidence and leads that identify Fritz-Harry Cremer as an interested party... The missiles on 911... WTC's45&6... abortion... Murder in the P&D's Union... all has to be investigated and prosecution levied against all the guilty... Millions of executions... It'll be
great. Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:51

Why would I join your site ...I don't understand can you explain please... sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:20 pm | #

Since you are a Jew and silent re Schweitzer, I would not have you on board...
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:41 pm | #

Your quotation has been corrupted by translators with a hidden agenda for hundreds and thousands of years... The same way BS re 911 is being foisted on the citizens of the republic, by similar elements who require falsity to replace truth.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:30 pm | #

Are you certain???

How did you get so intelligent????

Did that Jew Jesus tell you????
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:38 pm | #

Tired, no offense but I just got done with this link and it looks like a mirror of dockers rhetoric:
http://100777.com/plan
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:35 pm | #

Show this forum which Translation you get, "...These are they who have washed their robe clean in the blood of Islam."

'...white in the blood of the Lamb." New American Standard Bible © 1995 Lockman Foundation. Patrick | 06.28.07 - 9:14 pm | #

Your quotation has been corrupted by translators with a hidden agenda for hundreds and thousands of years... The same way BS re 911 is being foisted on the citizens of the republic, by similar elements who require falsity to replace truth.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:30 pm | #

So join up... when you have a low number everyone will know that you were among the first... The parameters for membership are that a meaningful effort, ie assisting the prosecution process for the murder of Katherine Schweitzer, and that includes prosecuting the police who have ignored vital evidence and leads that identify Fritz-Harry Cremer as an interested party... The missiles on 911... WTC's45&6... abortion... Murder in the P&D's Union... all has to be investigated and prosecution levied against all the guilty... Millions of executions... It'll be great.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:51

Freddy you never answer any of the tough questions on the site. You are not trying to disrupt, divide, recruit like COINTELPRO are you????

If join the site do I get 10 free pairs of chopsticks?

How come you never promote this video that shows the weakness in Illuminati?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...WyJJQbFago& NR=1

Why would I join your site when it is run by Halliburton to divert the truth movement, I don't understand can you explain please?????
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:20 pm | #

"AMERICA PREVAILED"!!
THANK-YOU MY FELLOW AMERICANS WHO TOOK ACTION AGAINSST THIS DANGEROUS IMMIGRATION BILL!!
ALSO: ALL SENATOR'S WHO VOTED AGAINST THIS BILL 1639 "ARE AMERICAN HERO'S" IN MY BOOK!!
PLEASE BESURE TO CALL AND THANK THEM!
CINDY | 06.28.07 - 8:51 pm | #
Dear sister,'
we did it just for you!!
this government needs to be fired for even bringing such an abomination to the floor! Not to mention passing the patriot act TWICE!!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 9:17 pm | #

The world government prophesied in Revelations, and confirmed in The Koran is the glorious rule of The Antichrist, who will defeat the enemies of Allah and lead the Jews to the establishment of New Jerusalem, at the commencement of the new age and the start of the thousand year Reich... Footsteps of The AChrist | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 12:16 am | #

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha …if it wasn't so sad. Patrick | 06.26.07 - 4:09 am | #

Footsteps of The AChrist, Screw You, you sick pure evil bastard! …Jesus deal Satan a blow and you too! …rot in HELL! 9-11 truther | 06.26.07 - 1:34 am | #

I think you are being a bit tough on the toad man ...Read the prophesies of the end times in the book of Revelations. "...These are they who have washed their robe clean in the blood of Islam." Referring to those former sinners who have ben swayed by the rhetoric of the risen Antichrist... who have gone willingly to battle execution and death. Every prophesy in every book of prophesy prophesized his return from death… or yet The Paraclete, …the Prince of This World, who is already judged… or in Islam …The self taught prophet who is unversed of the scriptures… reminds mankind he is the messenger of Allah to all, and that all who respond to that message carry out the will of God. The Koran. …At age nine my father beats me to death… I meet Jesus he tells me I can stay with him or go back, ...about ten days later after another beating in the family home God called me by name… went on to tell me at age fourteen he had chosen me as his messenger… Yes he still talks to me and guides my fingers on the keyboard.

Full story… Homepage.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:50 pm | #

O.K.
now for a reality check~

Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. kjv

I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
New American Standard Bible © 1995 Lockman Foundation

I answered, “Sir, you know.”

And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

New International Version © 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society

I told him, "My lord, you know." He said to me, "These are those who came out of the great tribulation. They washed their robes, and made them white in the Lamb's blood.
Hebrew Names Version 2000

and I have said to him, `Sir, thou hast known;' and he said to me, `These are those who are coming out of the great tribulation, and they did wash their robes, and they made their robes white in the blood of the Lamb;
Robert Young Literal Translation 1862, 1887, 1898 Info

And I said to him, "Sir, you are the one who knows." Then he said to me, "These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb and made them white.
New Living Translation © 1996 Tyndale Charitable Trust

Show this forum which Translation you get that assinine statement "These are they who have washed their robe clean in the blood of Islam."

FOOLS BELEIVING THEMSELVES TO BE WISE
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 9:14 pm | #

When y'all take the AC on board, the first step will be that you get a number that will be your union number in The Painters and Dockers Union, MT is number one, The Beast is number 666 > http://www.dockersunion.com , even though the secretary expelled the original Beast as a scab in 1991, the owner of number 666 often is called The Beast... like number 555 is called Hollywood, 777 is Lucky etc.

So join up... when you have a low number everyone will know that you were among the first... The parameters for membership are that a meaningful effort, ie assisting the prosecution process for the murder of Katherine Schweitzer, and that includes prosecuting the police who have ignored vital evidence and leads that identify Fritz-Harry Cremer as an interested party... The missiles on 911... WTC's45&6... abortion... Murder in the P&D's Union... all has to be investigated and prosecution levied against all the guilty... Millions of executions... It'll be great.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:51 pm | #

Note to truthers, I will be on here very little for the next few days as i am moving and until i get connected at the new home my access to the internet will be limited to Internet Cafe's and Dial up, both of which I trully hate, but will be coming back with much new stuff for all of you.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:32 pm | #

hurry back tired!!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 8:39 pm | #

HOT: [HOAX] 'ET' False Flag Operation to Begin in August
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/fo...hread288280/ pg1

WANT A COPY OF THE CONGRESSIONAL REPORT ON 9/11?
WANT TO SEE THE LIES AND BLOCKED OUT PAGES FOR YOUR SELF
http://daggerdannconspiracy.trip...od.com/ id7.html

The Plan against the New World Order
http://100777.com/plan

What in Hades Series
http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/...hival=& posts=45

Women demand a new world order.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/site...9& dopt=Abstract

Note to truthers, I will be on here very little for the next few days as i am moving and until i get connected at the new home my access to the internet will be limited to Internet Cafe's and Dial up, both of which I trully hate, but will be coming back with much new stuff for all of you.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:32 pm | #

>>>>Fred Thompson/AEI is Preparing to Nuke the US with this PNAC Style Film Promoting Terrorism:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...-suitcase-bomb/
Fred Thompson’s Made-For-Hollywood Terror Warning

Former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-TN) has dealt first-hand with nuclear weapons — on the Hollywood big screen. In 2005, he starred as President Charles Ross in Last Best Chance, a docudrama about terrorists trying to smuggle nuclear weapons into the United States.

One of Hollywood’s favorite plots is the threat of so-called suitcase nukes, like the one featured in the show “24.” But these nuclear bombs cleverly concealed in suitcases don’t exist in real life:

Nuclear bombs cleverly concealed in suitcases don’t exist in real life. Even so, they have long been a popular Hollywood plot point. […]

Arms control expert Charles Thornton of the Center for International and Security Studies at the University of Maryland calls the scenario “so highly unlikely as to be approaching fantasy.”

It appears that Thompson is allowing his Hollywood experience to shape his budding presidential campaign. During an event in South Carolina yesterday, Thompson raised the made-for-Hollywood scenario of terrorist Cubans smuggling in “suitcase bombs”:

In his speech, Thompson assailed “unbearable tax burdens,” called for restrained spending, and argued for a smaller federal government. He expressed his opposition to the immigration bill in Congress and decried the flow of illegal immigrants from Cuba, saying: “I don’t imagine they’re coming here to bring greetings from Castro. We’re living in the era of the suitcase bomb.”

Thompson should focus on the real nuclear threats to the United States. A 2004 CRS report for Congress explained:

Scenarios for smuggling a nuclear weapon across unguarded coasts or borders are similar to those for smuggling bales of marijuana, many of which are reportedly flown in, brought by small boats, or carried across land borders; the difficulty of patrolling the borders makes such scenarios feasible.
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It is Rebuilding American Defenses in Movie Form.

Everyone associated with this movie needs to be heavily monitored for punditry and planning nuke attacks on US soil. This is how they do it. Make some fucking movie showing the AEI candidate as saving us all after a nuke attack-then they execute a nuke attack with Dick Cheney's Google pixelled out location.

That is how they did 9/11 and all the others. It is now official that AEI/Lynn "hangin in the bunker before the plane hit" Cheney/Dick "Have You Heard Anything to the Contrary" Cheney/Guiliani (VP Contender)/Swatzenfucker/etc. want to kill tens of millions of Americans

WAKE UP!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:27 pm | #

EXPOSING THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
http://daggerdannconspiracy.tripod.com/

E.L.F. Psychotronic Tyranny
http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctr.../mctrl/ nwo.html

SYNTHETIC TELEPATHY
http://www.nwbotanicals.org/oak/.../ synthtele.html

Organized Crime Threatens the New World Order
http://www.namebase.org/news08.html

P1 Field Report Conclusion: What's new in law enforcement technology: Part 2
http://www.policeone.com/writers...ticles/1268407/

Talmud Institute for US Lawyers Applauded by Justices
http://100777.com/node/310

Tavistock
The Best Kept Secret in America
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/ ...eptsecret.shtml

The new world order and international health
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/f...l/314/7091/ 1404
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:25 pm | #

I was getting worried about you, good to see ya!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:11 pm | #

Thanks. nothing to worry about some friends and i do survival skills about once a month out in the desert.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:19 pm | #

Voinovich Lashes Out At Hannity: ‘You’re Not Going To Intimidate Me,’ Then Hangs Up
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...ich-lashes-out/
Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS) said recently that “talk radio is running America” and that “we have to deal with that problem.” Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said “hate radio” has hijacked the political discourse with its “xenophobic, anti-immigrant” rhetoric.

Yesterday, Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH) released his frustration in a “hate radio” interview with Sean Hannity. “A lot of radio programs have really got out there and fired this thing up,” Voinovich said of the immigration debate. “And so people are really hot about it. And I’m getting calls from people that basically are intimidating me.” Voinovich told Hannity:

I’ve had people back home because of programs like yours said to me if you vote for this bill, it’s the end of your political career. I just want you to know and I want everybody else to know that you do not intimidate George Voinovich.

Fed up with Hannity’s efforts to turn the interview into a right-wing commentary, Voinovich lashed out, “I really don’t think it’s worthy to talk to you right now because you’ve got your mind made up.” Hannity then turned on Voinovich, telling him, “You’re running away because you can’t answer a simple question. … Oh, so I’m irrational because I disagree with you? You’re a mighty senator, ok I get it.” Voinovich then hung up.

Listen to the interview:

UPDATE: The right is outraged over Voinovich. Hot Air says he humiliated himself. KLo writes, “At least he didn’t cry.” Radio Equalizer asks, “How did these elected officials get so out of touch with reality?” And FrontPage calls him “Senator Embarrassment.”
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When Hannity is the voice of reason, the congress is truly in LA-LA land.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:18 pm | #

Freedom Isn't Free, and Silence is Consent!
http://www.raven1.net/

Loser Kerry wants to censor Conservatives on Talk Radio.
http://www.godlikeproductions.co...=405039& mpage=1

Notice Regarding The Availibility of Administrative Supplements to Support U.S. – Netherlands Binational Collaborative Research on Drug Abuse
http://grants.nih.gov/grants/gui...-DA-07- 003.html

Giuliani ‘More Concerned With Image Than Safety’ During Anthrax Scare: Fmr Bush EPA Chief
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...image- than.html

Research and Publications
http://www.dem.dcc.state.nc.us/M...ow- To7_AppC.pdf

Congressional Reports: Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities before and after the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serials...eports/ 911.html

U.S. Department of Justice
Office of Justice Programs
National Institute of Justice
http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/n.../nij/ 187083.pdf

The New Structure of Policing:
http://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles1/n.../nij/ 187083.txt

Islamberg, New York: "You can hear gunfire up there. I can't understand why the FBI won't shut it down"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archiv...ives/ 016411.php

Clitic Doubling, Reflexives, and Word Order Alternations in Yagua
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici...%3E2.0.CO%3B2- V

Great Links to News
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi- b...estcomments.cgi

U.S. Government Agencies
http://international.drugabuse.g....gov/ links.html

Good links for video
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?c...e? category_id=1
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:17 pm | #

Chris,
you may or may not be aware, you cannot achieve the rank of General (or Admiral)l in any U.S. branch of service unless you are a 33rd degree Freemason!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 7:55 pm | #
___________________

I heard being homosexual helps.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:16 pm | #

At age nine my father beats me to death… I meet Jesus he tells me I can stay with him or go back, ...about ten days later after another beating in the family home God called me by name… went on to tell me at age fourteen he had chosen me as his messenger… Yes he still talks to me and guides my fingers on the keyboard.

Full story… Homepage.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:50 pm | #

Good one, why do you think Cheney is building the 1,000 death camps with hijacked 19 billion to that Dubai company Halliburton that sells nukes to Iran through Giza as reported in dozens of declassified documents. I checked all around your site and all it said was that Cheney wants to stick all the jews, blacks, nexicans, gays, and handicapped into shackle chains on a superhighway to GE/Halliburton death camps. Was that a typo? can you clarify this possible minor issue???
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:14 pm | #

Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:08 pm | #

I was getting worried about you, good to see ya!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:11 pm | #

A new world order.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov...i? artid=1314162

MOLDING MINDS THROUGH GROUP MANIPULATION
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ber...itKjos/ kjos.htm

Muddling Through: World Orders and Globalization
http://www.blackwell- synergy.com...24.1992.00003.x

"WHATEVER IS COVERED UP WILL BE UNCOVERED AND EVERY SECRET WILL BE MADE KNOWN--
"YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE"--
http://www.freedomdomain.com/welcome.htm

Gaza Strip is 'abroad' in a strange way
http://mparent7777- 2.blogspot.co...14_archive.html

Editor's Note; Why Does the GOP Seek to Silence American Muslims?
http://mparent7777- 2.blogspot.co...08_archive.html

Probe Finds NIH Official Violated Government Regulations
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...l- violated.html

Washington hurting British bid to free crew
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/ ...02_archive.html

EuroYank NEW WORLD ORDER REPORTS
http://euroyank.blogspot.com/ 200...01_archive.html

Ex-councilwoman could be deported
http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/1855531/ posts
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:08 pm | #

I do not excuse the Military higher ups, the Generals, Admirals, etc. They are obviously either mentaly ill, without concience , up to their necks in graft, or simply so egotistical they choose not to see the abomiantion their masters have created.

Chris,
you may or may not be aware, you cannot achieve the rank of General (or Admiral)l in any U.S. branch of service unless you are a 33rd degree Freemason!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 7:55 pm | #

who signed it?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:46 pm | #
----------------------------------

It's not the point. And you didn't mention the other issue either? 911 responsibility?

You say he's the only viable candidate, he's backing off all the fucking time.

Ed & Elaine Brown,for example, all 'Paul's' got to do is say well, IRS,......... show us the LAW.
That is no big deal and he would avoid becomming embroiled in something he's not wanting to become emersed in. But he would send a massive shock-wave back through the political system

Who the fuck is the campaign manager?? If it was me I would have jumped all over that.

He's missing way to much, lots of opportunity to to send political shots but he ain't takin them.
Have they got something on Ron Paul? is a question I had when I first saw him.

& another is, is he a tool to take the energy out of the decenters? Because trying to repeal the IRS or many other things are just stupid b4 he gets into the presidential office.

and whilst I'm in this mode, I ain't gonna tell you what you want to hear, cos I want you to stay alive & KICKING, get me. Sorry but it's the only way, to keep you conscious.

Trust no-one, let Paul prove himself, now, again and again, over & over, cos he just ain't up to the mark for me. I know he has good history, but today counts more than ever.

I mean in the Lee Rogers Interview, he almost condones the Murder the CIA were involved in, from their own documentation, and Paul dismisses it???? No mate, MURDER is MURDER in any Country. He could arrest all those fucks who did that shit now, cos they are still alive.

Something's wrong with Ron Paul, and this is a warning, take heed, I'm not usally wrong about such things.
cop-KILLA | 06.28.07 - 7:41 pm | #

re Low Approval Ratings

Bush and congress race to see who can get to 0% approval first.
pc | 06.28.07 - 7:35 pm | #

Democrats & Republicans, a total of 535 Elected offficials have done none less than nothing about the abomination we call the commander and chief, or his mentor, Mr. Cheney.
I would like tio hide in a big bubble and tell myself that we actualy live in a democracy a proud and righteous Republic , I would like to convince myself that our politicians care about their citizens. I would like to beleive our constitution is not disregarded, and above all I would seriously enjoy beleiving that I can be proud of this country and that those that sacrificed their lives for our land were not in vain, or for the profits and power of the elite manipulators.
I did once believe, I even fought for this country in a war. Sorry, but I can't hide in a bubble, no matter how much I would like to. I choose the red pill. I choose truth.
Our elected officials are cowards, they are traitors, and liars. If this were not the case impeachment,imprisonment, or lynching would be mandatory for a great multitude of the human waste who have sacrificed this land, its people, and civilians killed on foreign soil, after a illegal invasion, under false and deceptive lies of threatning the American public with WMD's.
I do not excuse the Military higher ups, the Generals, Admirals, etc. They are obviously either mentaly ill, without concience , up to their necks in graft, or simply so egotistical they choose not to see the abomiantion their masters have created.
In short, the military uppers are cowards-moraly.
Traitors to their oath to uphold the constituion be it foriegn or domestic enemies.
I was once in a bubble, I discovered it was programed that way, I have escaped their programing and deceptions, I will maintain my soul.
may these parrasitic powermongers be brought to justice.
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 7:03 pm | #

You rock , Chris Jones, keep up the good work brudder!!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 7:33 pm | #

thats a regular bobby dazzler mate
Snake Plisken | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:25 pm | #

Frosty Wooldridge Thursday, June 28, 2007... The worst president in U.S. history, George Bush, with a 24 percent disapproval rating by U.S. citizens along with the worst Congress with an 16 percent disapproval rating-- continue pushing the worst bill in American history.

There have been a lot of worst bills in US history and even more worse decisions in the US Supreme Court... else why have doctors come up with the term Pre-term Abortion which is capital infanticide... and allowed thug criminals to '...take the fifth,' the filthy fifth amendment that enabled scab thugs who had infiltrated the labor unions to thumb their noses at sworn proceedings.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:13 pm | #

Now is the follow through, which is to remove all of the Yes voters for this bill out of office.
Henry | 06.28.07 - 7:01 pm | #

Ex-Reagan Deputy Attorney General: Impeach Cheney Josh Catone
Published: Thursday June 28, 2007

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ex...heney_0628.html
Bruce Fein, who served as the Deputy Attorney General under Ronald Reagan, in a scathing editorial today called for the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney.

"Cheney has dulled political accountability and concocted theories for evading the law and Constitution that would have embarrassed King George III," he writes.

This is not the first time that Fein has taken on the Bush administration. In March 2006, Fein appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee to testify on Senate Resolution 398, which called for the censure of George Bush over the warrantless wiretap program.

Fein said in his 2006 testimony that by authorizing the domestic spying program, President Bush sought to "cripple the Constitution’s checks and balances and political accountability."

With the wiretap program back in the news following this week's congressional subpoenas of the White House and the office of the Vice President, and a subsequent refusal to cooperate, Fein unleashed his highly critical philippic.

Fein details "multiple crimes against the Constitution" committed by Cheney, including the creation of military commissions, the "kidnappings, secret detentions, and torture in Eastern European prisons of suspected international terrorists," the advocation of "signing statements" to ignore pieces of legislation, and the encouragement of the use of torture.

"The vice president has maintained that the entire world is a battlefield," writes Fein, saying the vice president has used the bugaboo of terrorism to justify a shoot first, ask questions later approach to dealing with suspected terrorists, even when that includes American citizens.

Fein also touches on the hot-button warrantless wiretapping program, over which he has butted heads with the administration in the past. He argues that Cheney engineered the program and has "orchestrated the invocation of executive privilege" to conceal information about it from Congress.

In the end, Fein makes the case that "Bush has ceded vast domains of his powers to Vice President Cheney," in violation of the US Constitution.

"President Bush regularly is unable to explain or defend the policies of his own administration, and that is because the heavy intellectual labor has been performed in the office of the vice president," he concludes. "Cheney is impeachable for his overweening power and his sneering contempt of the Constitution and the rule of law."
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:54 pm | #

Scientists step toward making synthetic life
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/ ...from=public_rss
SCIENTISTS have taken a first step toward making synthetic life by transferring genetic material from one bacterium into another, transforming the second microbe into a copy of the first.

They intend to use their technique to custom-design bacteria to perform functions such as producing artificial fuel or cleaning up toxic waste, the researchers report in today's issue of the journal Science.

“This is equivalent to changing a Macintosh computer to a PC by inserting a new piece of software,” Craig Venter, a genome pioneer who now heads his own institute in Rockville, Maryland, said in a telephone briefing.

“I think eventually we could make artificial cells,” Mr Venter added.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:51 pm | #

cop-KILLA | 06.28.07 - 6:40 pm | #

who signed it?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:46 pm | #

Claiming that Iraq was developing weapons of mass destruction the president maneuvered a malleable congress into an approval for a military attack. The same protocols are in place re Iran.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:12 pm | #

Freddy why do you avoid me?

Why do you avoid the really tough questions about 9/11, like what did Cheney/Guiliani do with all the Gold???????

Why id Cheney building the jew/black/hispanic/homosexual death camps?

why are you avoiding the really hard hiting evidence?

What are you hiding?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:46 pm | #

Ron Paul refused to sign a document for the Impeachment of Bush & Cheney????? Excuse me Mr Paul, you might want to pull your head out your arse and take another look.

ERRRR you don't think the American Administration had anything to do with the 911 Attacks???????
So why did Bush sit there in the school smirking with fucking book upside down he was reading from??????

Sorry all you Ron Paul supporters, you are wasting your time, he just ain't got it. He is also too OLD.
It is not with pleasure I say this either, I wish he was up to it, but he don't stand a chance.

Also from that interveiw with Lee Rogers, it looks absolutly garrunteed the NWO will launch an attack of some sort. This will give Bush a [right?] to declare himself dictator.
The best thing an American can do now is LOCK & LOAD, try to take out any member of the administration. All the members of the CFR, and the Feds too, as they are likely gonna be your biggest obstical.
cop-KILLA | 06.28.07 - 6:40 pm | #

PLEASE CHANGE YOUR PARTY AFFILIATION TO "REPUBLICAN!" SO YOU CAN VOTE IN THE PRIMARY FOR RON PAUL!!!

- yes i know that i'm "shouting" its IMPORTANT!
edward | 06.28.07 - 6:36 pm | #

No dictator can seize power and maintain control over a country without the support of subordinate, or lesser, despots. ibid

I gotta agree with you Darryl... the BBC vid is pure trash masquerading as responsible journalism...

"MI5 counter terrorism officer David Shayler uncovers the BBC's selective and distorted 9/11 coverage and the corporation's attempts to portray the 9/11 truth movement as a racist cult like group of mythology." Steve Watson PP

From one distortion to another... the video is no more than a cynical attempt to steer the audience away from real truth and real evidence...

Odigo... the Tomahawk Cruise Missile strike at WTC's5&6... Alex's puzzling broadcast late July 2001... was a cryptic message encoded into the transmission... did his usage of the words World Trade Centre ...Terrorism and Osama Bin Laden all in one sentence reveal him as a tool of opposing forces or as a patriot warning of the nation's danger...

Bearing in mind that his warning did not quite get it right... If he said the Jews who infiltrated the Pentagon whose goons in the person of GWB and awful warfull Dick Cheney, were planning an attack that resembled in every way an insurance fraud that would subsequently be blamed on OBL... well then we might have got somewhere...

Read that Mossad has just murdered an Egyptian national... Isn't that the way of the Jews... Katherine Schweitzer was murdered in Sydney in similar circumstances in Dec 2006... Ask Steve Watson about it... he's a denier... The Jew are mute... on and on...

Steve come on over mate, no one wants to hurt Alex's feelings but his record states his purpose...

Claiming that Iraq was developing weapons of mass destruction the president maneuvered a malleable congress into an approval for a military attack. The same protocols are in place re Iran.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:12 pm | #

These sick mofuks start fights then run like sissies, and or hire a bonehead to do the dirty work while they eat seafood watching court jeesters. Goddam even the Christians are stupid by the warped mason King James edition forgetting that there was the Gospel of Thomas and even Mary. Do you think Mary was so dumb that she couldn't write about her son? Watch what people tell you because people lie and don't tell the whole truth.
Sony | 06.28.07 - 5:55 pm | #

First as a Canadian I would like to thank you American Patriots for standing up for your own country. I spoke to Americans up here in Canada who are so dumbed down they haven't a clue what is going on. They said " Oh, that is just a California problem'. Then they jumped in their yaught and forgot about everything.

Thank god some of you have a brain and know your being duped. In fact it was Americans who clued me in to this stupendous crime of the millenia.

Good work Ron Paul. We know the crooks are the central banks and a piece of dogshit is worth more than a Rockefeller to the human species. The Bankers are a disease poisoning humanity with their limitless greed and we know that we can sustain a world of equalibrium population. The more the money that goes around the less offspring will result because the poor hope that one of their offspring wil take care of them.
Sony | 06.28.07 - 5:42 pm | #

re Dead Immigration Bill

Busch looses. I'm not buying any more of his beer either. All illegal alienz please report to Busch's Crawford, TX ranch for reassignment
pc | 06.28.07 - 5:13 pm | #

they should be setting exzamples and making 5.50 a fucking hour like all the rest of us fucking slaves
tom | 06.28.07 - 4:48 pm | #

who is he talking about Members of congress give themselves a pay raise
tom | 06.28.07 - 4:45 pm | #

see i told you people they are rich greedy fucking pigs
tom | 06.28.07 - 4:44 pm | #

Legal Memo Confirms White House Led Effort To Target And Remove U.S. Attorneys
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...clement-letter/
Today, White House counsel Fred Fielding released a letter informing Congress that President Bush will assert executive privilege over White House documents relating to the firing of U.S. attorneys. Fielding attached a legal memorandum written by Solicitor General Paul Clement, laying out the legal basis for the executive privilege claim.

Clement reviewed the documents that the Congress subpoenaed. In his letter, Clement reveals what investigators have suspected from the very beginning — that the White House was intimately involved in the attorney scandal. Upon examination of the White House documents, Clement writes:

Among other things, these communications discuss the wisdom of such a proposal, specific U.S. Attorneys who could be removed, potential replacement candidates, and possible responses to congressional and media inquiries about the dismissals.

The White House had “said that Mr. Bush’s aides approved the list of prosecutors only after it was compiled.” President Bush himself said that “the Justice Department made recommendations, which the White House accepted” regarding the removal of the attorneys.

On a related point, Marcy Wheeler writes that it is a serious conflict of interest for Clement to be advising Bush to assert executive privilege in the very same scandal that Clement is supposed to be investigating.

Paul Clement, as you’ll recall, is the guy currently in charge of any investigation into the US Attorney firings, since Alberto Gonzales recused himself some months ago. He’s the one who technically oversees the Office of Special Counsel investigation into whether politics played an improper part in Iglesias’ firing or the hiring of career employees in DOJ, he’s the one who oversees the joint Office of Professional Responsibility and Inspector General investigations into whether anything improper–including obstruction of justice–occurred in the hiring and firing of USAs. And now, he’s the guy who gets to tell the President that he doesn’t have to turn over what might amount to evidence of obstruction of justice in the Foggo and Wilkes case, among others.

Clement’s letter reveals the White House was deeply involved in selectively targeting attorneys for removal. These documents presumably reveal the motives of the White House in purging the U.S. attorneys. Now Clement is working to ensure those documents never become public.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:31 pm | #

>>>>Hersh: ‘Bush And Cheney’s Wet Dream Is Hitting Iran’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...ersh-bush-iran/

In February, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh wrote a piece in The New Yorker revealing that the Bush administration was setting its sights heavily on Iran, planning for a “possible bombing attack“:

Still, the Pentagon is continuing intensive planning for a possible bombing attack on Iran, a process that began last year, at the direction of the President. In recent months, the former intelligence official told me, a special planning group has been established in the offices of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, charged with creating a contingency bombing plan for Iran that can be implemented, upon orders from the President, within twenty-four hours.

Yesterday, Hersh spoke more on the Bush administration’s focus on Iran at the Campus Progress National Conference. He said that President Bush and Vice President Cheney are ignoring the actual intelligence on Iran. The “intelligence community keeps on saying, ‘There’s no bomb there.’ And Cheney keeps on saying to the young briefing officers, ‘Thank you son, I don’t buy that.’” Hersh added, “George Bush’s and Dick Cheney’s wet dream is hitting Iran.” Listen to Hersh’s remarks here:
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:29 pm | #

Alex Jones foretold the official story... That is circumstantial evidence of prior knowledge... Thus he would certainly have an agenda to see that the whole truth at least in so far as how he came to be spruiking about OBL and the WTC about ten weeks prior...
Freddy | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:51 pm | #

Great Freddy, why do you hide from the really key 911 questions like, how did Cheney get the gold out and was it split equally between Rockefeller/Rothschild/Cheney/Kissinger/Buffett/ Swarzzenneeger or did someone get a bigger share? Also have we hit 100 Halliburton/Cheney death camps yet?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:57 pm | #

The spam is from a single source believed to be Scott Makufka, Mossad chief in North America.

…I have to sit here scrolling through trash and wasting time… everything you just mentioned is totally unverifiable… this is a news site that sticks to what is provable... thanks to those who post sensible and informative comments… Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:40 pm | #

yeah or maybe its because everything you just mentioned is totally unverifiable and this is a news site that sticks to what is provable. Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:34 pm | #

I certainly hope that you are not suggesting that the missile story or the death of Schweitzer are unverifiable... give me a break... Minetta was up front on day one... Odigo said 4000 Jews didn't show up on 911... The put options and Israeli investors also hit the newswires on day one... and have had no coverage since. How many stories did you do on Ed who dont like taxes... tough on Ed and that way no Odigo news gets on the web... The PP front page has had two Ron Paul listings all year and he has done nuthin...

Alex Jones foretold the official story... That is circumstantial evidence of prior knowledge... Thus he would certainly have an agenda to see that the whole truth at least in so far as how he came to be spruiking about OBL and the WTC about ten weeks prior...
Freddy | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:51 pm | #

Seems to me like the cop is out of control. He leaves one handcuffed "suspect" on the ground while he chases after another kid because the kid has a skateboard.
Sure there may be factors we are not aware of that set this cop off, but at the very least this guy shows he is not a professional.
Control freaks are exactly the type of people who shouldn't be cops, but they are exactly the kind of people attracted to police work. And for all the wrong reasons. IMHO.
Dave | 06.28.07 - 3:45 pm | #

Que lastimo Senor El Presidente
Snake Plisken | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:39 pm | #

Very well said Chris Jones. McManara is heard on telephone with Lydon Johnson ( I saw the tape) telling Mr Prez to down play incident Gulf of Tonkin, I believe his exact words were plausable denialibilty. These is all earily similiar to the reason so many contracters are in theatre in Iraq, so administration can use the excuse, nobody would have ever thought a private contractor would cross line.
Rush to war | 06.28.07 - 3:22 pm | #

Ancient Libertarian Wisdom From China?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8...ig8/ bryan1.html
From Chapter 17 of the Tao Te Ching: "In the highest antiquity, the people did not know that there were rulers. In the next age they loved them and praised them. In the next they feared them; in the next they despised them." "The people suffer from famine because of the multitude of taxes consumed by their superiors".

Cheney: If you think his abuse of power is scary now, consider this...
http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...oc/20070709/ huq
... consider what might happen when he counts Electoral College votes in a divisive 2008 election?

FDA Plan To Eliminate Vitamin Companies? Whose side are you on?
http://www.truthera.com/2007/06/...amin-companies/
I noticed a huge spike in negative mainstream news reporting on vitamins, dietary supplements and over the counter remedies starting about 8 months ago... obviously drug companies are pissed off about losing revenue and aren't satisfied with just f*cking over the consumer at the register... they want it all

Kansas City Star is censoring Ron Paul call the writer the number is below
http:// www.evolutionofdeception....nPaulCensor.htm
I suggest to you the reader is to call my local newspaper which is the Kansas City Star, and ask Steve Kraske why he chose to omit Ron Paul from the selection of Candidates in the Sunday June 24th, 2007 article on Politics? The number to call is 816-234-4312. While your at it send him an email and let him know what you think about him censoring Ron

Female police officer recorded hitting two parked cars, leaves the scene.
http://www.palmbeachdailynews.co...ayer/news/ 21328
Palm Beach, Florida. A West Palm beach police officer is captured via on board camera swerving over the double solid line a few times and finally hits two parked cars. She then leaves the scene and inspects the damage to her patrol car in a nearby parking garage. Floridas finest.

Eat a penis. The Beijing Penis Restaurant -- Seriously! [SFW]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/53715...5371500.stm? lsm
There are many thousands of Chinese restaurants around in the UK and everyone has their favourite dish, but only in China itself do chefs specialise in a range of slightly more unusual delicacies.

American Inventor - Device helps you hookup in bars [another reason for implantable chips-WTF is with this NWO invention and propaganda!!!]
http://www.flicklife.com/ c667d2e...up_in_bars.html
This device will alert you when someone has the same interests as you..It's your wingman that will never let you down!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:07 pm | #

MSNBC REPORTS that we shut down the Senate phone lines as they were inundated with calls against this bill!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:57 pm | #

Republican Senator Hazy Past
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Re..._past_0627.html
A Republican Senator who is a board member of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, is pointed out to have smoked pot in High School, and is asked to stop being a Hypocrite

Human Rights Council discontinues mandate against Cuba
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/...iew/5455/1/267/
At the end of its 5th Session in Geneva, the Human Rights Council decided to discontinue the mandate of the so-called personal representative of the High Commissioner for Human Rights in relation to Cuba.

Odd Aerial "Drones"?Over Lake Tahoe and Central California, Check This Out!
http:// www.earthfiles.com.vsd18....ory=Environment
What are these things? A Hoax or experimental aircraft? A new kind of UFO? Whatever it is, these people got some real close shots of them, so close you can even see some kind of writing on that wing like structure."The sound described is consistent with electrostatic field discharges." The shape of these things reminds me of some kind of Ion drive

Israeli president to admit to sex crimes
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle2001039.ece
Israel ’s president has agreed to a controversial plea bargain that will allow him to avoid a possible prison sentence on rape charges. Moshe Katsav will resign as Israeli President tonight after agreeing to plead guilty to sexual harassment.

Court: Feds Can Seize Half of House
http://www.breitbart.com/article...& show_article=1
A woman who claimed she was unaware that her husband was growing pot in the basement will get to keep her half of their house, while the government can seize her husband's share, a federal appeals court has ruled...

Exxon, Conoco Drop Venezuela Oil Projects
http://digg.com/world_news/ Exxon...la_Oil_Projects
Exxon Mobil Corp. and ConocoPhillips have decided to abandon their heavy crude oil projects in eastern Venezuela rather than cede majority ownership and operating control to the government, Venezuelan officials said Tuesday.

Vista security baloney
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/ ...3428189546.html
If you believe Jeff Jones, Microsoft's security strategy director, then Vista is much more secure than XP, Mac OS X, and Linux. Ah, you do know his paychecks are signed by Bill Gates, right?

Kidnapped politicians 'die in botched rescue'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle1998906.ece
Eleven kidnapped Colombian politicians held hostage for five years have been killed in the crossfire after the army attacked the jungle camp where they were being kept.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:53 pm | #

This officer is just too gung-ho. He should simply have warned the skaters. The skaters should follow the law and not have knowingly violated it. If I were on the jury - I would fine the skaters for skateboarding where they were in violation of known law, as it is a safety issue for pedestrians and others who must use the same busy sidewalk, maybe even safety issue for drivers. I would have to deal with the officer, too, and let him know that he needs to be courteous, respectful, and verbal PRIOR to roughing up and manhandling people, whom he is supposed to SERVE, not violate them and their rights. I guess I'd "desk" him for a week or so (longer, depending on his attitude) and get him some retraining.
Anonymous | 06.28.07 - 2:30 pm | #

Good thing that you will not be on the jury because you are obviously not open to evidence and have judged this case already [whole purpose for a judicial system].

I would like to know more about histories of all involved and check into written and oral orders from the chief on down.

Also I would investigate if/how federal procedures might have influenced local law enforcement in their judgement/actions. We want to make sure this is not a nationwide issue due to some new federal unconstitutional mandates.

That would just be a few of my considerations before even attempting to look into verdicts.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:40 pm | #

A Security Group Plans to Move Port Security Screening 14 Miles Offshore
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/ tec...ecbccdrcrd.html
The plan calls for pairs of 100-foot-wide platforms anchored outside the world's major ports. Equipped with an array of sensors and unmanned surveillance drones, the system monitors for chemical, biological and nuclear traces as ships travel between the platforms.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:21 pm | #

>>>>>Family Jewels - CIA's Strangeloves Altered The Mind Of A Girl Age 4
http:// www.theaustralian.news.co...1980496,00.html
EASILY lost on pg 425 of the "Family Jewels" files: a short paragraph outlining "potentially embarrassing Agency activities". Of all the heinous acts committed by the CIA in the name of national security, these experiments, done on the CIA's behalf by prominent psychiatrists on innocent victims - including children as young as 4 may be the darkest
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Now tell all those fuckers saying, "show me proof show me proof..."

I got yer proof right here!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:19 pm | #

WTF? am I sounding militant , or patriotic today, then again haven't these been synonymous in our countries history whenever change actually was effected?
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 2:04 pm | #

See Live Free or Die Hard-good movie for truthers [not as much as shooter, but we can see beyond the surface messages].
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:15 pm | #

Dems: Investigate Cheney for role in salmon die-off
http:// seattletimes.nwsource.com..._salmon28m.html
West Coast Democrats called for a hearing Wednesday into the role Vice President Dick Cheney may have played in the 2002 die-off of about 70,000 salmon near the California-Oregon border.

A Shill For the Police State: Awful Neil Cavuto
http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewr...ves/ 013782.html
Watching his exchange with Dr. Paul, I can't help but be disgusted by Neil Cavuto. This is what the modern right has become -- a shill for the police state's enforcement of draconian tax rates. But Cavuto does inform us of something important: He points out that if people were allowed not to pay their taxes, the whole system would collapse.

Benoit's Death Posted to Wikipedia 14 Hours Before Bodies Found !!!!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2...,287194,00.html
An anonymous user operating a computer traced to Stamford, Conn. — home to World Wrestling Entertainment — posted an entry to pro wrestler Chris Benoit's Wikipedia.com biography announcing the death of his wife Nancy more than 14 hours before police in suburban Atlanta said they found her body.

Document Fraud Ring Gearing Up for Immigration Amnesty Law; ICE Ignores
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/ a...ment_fraud.html
A $300 million national document fraud ring that provides all types of fake ID to illegal aliens, criminals, terrorists, and sundry other malefactors, is gearing up to create fraudulent documents that meet requirements for a Z-Visa under the Immigration Amnesty Bill.

WSJ Reporters Stage Mass Murdoch Protest
http://poynter.org/forum/view_po...st.asp? id=12696
Wall Street Journal reporters across the country chose not to show up to work this morning. Read the reasons after the break.

Ron Paul Rockets to First in Website Traffic
http://infowars.com/articles/us/ ...ite_traffic.htm
Hillary Clinton overtook Barack Obama in May, John Edwards and Rudy Giuliani held steady and Ron Paul rocketed from fifth place to first. That's according to Hitwise data showing the ebb and flow of traffic to the official sites of the Democratic and Republican presidential primary candidates.

Olbermann chews up, spits out Murdoch & O'Reilly
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...urdoch-oreilly/
Keith slams Rupert Murdoch for sanctioning censorship on the Chinese version of NewsCorp ’s MySpace and buying off Congress to keep his stranglehold on the US media, then smacks around Bill ORally for making an ass of himself…again.

Media Fail to Inform Public About OIC
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/...ntry=26043& only
In all the mainstream media articles about President Bush’s announcement that he’s appointing an envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference, not a single one actually looks at the history and statements of this hate-filled Islamic group, whose charter...

An Interview with Presidential Candidate Congressman Ron Paul
http://www.muckrakerreport.com/i....com/ id447.html
This one covers a wide spectrum of issues. Iraq. Israel. Guantanamo. AIPAC. Iran. Capitalism. NAFTA. Economics. IRS. Philosophy. Abortion. Federalism. Gay rights. Stem-cells. Racism. Free speech. Education. Health care. Immigration. REAL ID. Global warming. Kyoto. Marijuana. 9/11 Commission. Net neutrality. Role of government.

The Ron Paul Revolution is on its way to Iowa
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/F...m? InfoNo=020573
The Ron Paul Revolution - AZ branch is winging its way to Iowa, to have some fun. Many signs accompany the team. A big round of applause to those who showed up, donated their time under uncomfortable conditions to produce the signs, and those who contributed in other ways to this journey. Radio reports, images and video to follow.

Ron Paul in New Hampshire
http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/r...aul-in- new.html
June 28, 2007 Ron Paul in New Hampshire On Friday June 22nd, Congressman Ron Paul made his third trip to New Hampshire. The first stop was the recording of Arnie Arnesen's television show "Political Chowder" which aired on Sunday the 24th. "Political Chowder" is seen in over two million households across New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Vermon
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:13 pm | #

Truthers,
We are knowlegable on what is going on in this nation, so I am not going into it.
But, I'm attempting to get a handle on how long this mob has been preparing for this.
Why, when I was a young child everything was about America and freedom, sure this was after WWII, the 50's. Then along comes the cold war, and THEY the ol gov. put screeching loudspeakers to the front of our schools and tell us if they go of, we are under nuclear attack from Russia, and we must hide under our desks.FEAR upon FEAR, Sure, give the ol gov what they need, the commies are coming to eat the children RHETORIC. The domino theory, not the game, the hype they gave Russia, they will conquer us one nation at a time. FEAR.
Then JFK was shot to death, our president. Then his brother, who by the way wanted to stop Vietnam also, was shot to death.
Then LBJ got in the big chair and the Gulf of Tonkin epicode escalated the bombing and THEIR profits,( by the way proven to be a deception.)
Demonstrations by the millions against the money making war in Vietnam that was responsible for the death of four million civilians and 50,000 troops.
Now, 911 appears, who beleives this incident was not coordianted by some officials in our goverment and other elite factions needs to be enlightened or join them.
WMD's, after the horendous fear of 911, we hear of chemical and nuclear WMD's in Iraq, we hear how we must find and destroy these acropoliptic weapons of mass destruction, so in FEAR America cheered. There were none and THEY know it so do we. Years later we are still in Iraq, we invaded illegaly a soveriegn foriegn nation and killed over 750,000 civilians during our occupation. and 5000 of Americs sons and daughters, yet NO WMD'S
were found since 1991, we know it, they know it, the world knows it.
OK, to my point, I remember Eisenhowers warning us about the MIC, he said more or less, beware of those who profit from war. Have we, and how long has these pathetic deceptions been taking over our country.
The buble people dont know and many dont want to know, they live in a world of Rhetoric and misbeleif. But thruthers dont live there, you dont, thank GOD. Again, anyone have a handle on when the takeover began, becasue my memory brings me back to the fifties.???????????????????
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 2:06 pm | #

WTF? am I sounding militant , or patriotic today, then again haven't these been synonymous in our countries history whenever change actually was effected?
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 2:04 pm | #

so they "killed" the latest treasonous bill, finally!
we can sleep safe at night cause the illegals have disappeared!!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 2:03 pm | #

Why the Iraq war won't engulf the Mideast
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007...on/ edtakeyh.php
By Steven A. Cook, Ray Takeyh and Suzanne Maloney
Published: June 28, 2007
Long before the Bush administration began selling "the surge" in Iraq as a way to avert a general war in the Middle East, observers both inside and outside the government were growing concerned about the potential for armed conflict among the regional powers.

Underlying this anxiety was a scenario in which Iraq's sectarian and ethnic violence spills over into neighboring countries, producing conflicts between the major Arab states and Iran as well as Turkey and the Kurdistan Regional Government. These wars then destabilize the entire region well beyond the current conflict zone, involving heavyweights like Egypt.

This is scary stuff indeed, but with the exception of the conflict between Turkey and the Kurds, the scenario is far from an accurate reflection of the way Middle Eastern leaders view the situation in Iraq and calculate their interests there.

It is abundantly clear that major outside powers like Saudi Arabia, Iran and Turkey are heavily involved in Iraq. These countries have so much at stake in the future of Iraq that it is natural they would seek to influence political developments in the country.
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Yet, the Saudis, Iranians, Jordanians, Syrians, and others are very unlikely to go to war either to protect their own sect or ethnic group or to prevent one country from gaining the upper hand in Iraq.

The reasons are fairly straightforward. First, Middle Eastern leaders, like politicians everywhere, are primarily interested in one thing: self-preservation. Committing forces to Iraq is an inherently risky proposition, which, if the conflict went badly, could threaten domestic political stability. Moreover, most Arab armies are geared toward regime protection rather than projecting power and thus have little capability for sending troops to Iraq.

Second, there is cause for concern about the so-called blowback scenario in which jihadis returning from Iraq destabilize their home countries, plunging the region into conflict.
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I pray they are right
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:53 pm | #

Have At it

Hot Springs Police Department

Joseph Williams jjec4@hsnp.com
641 Malvern Avenue
Hot Springs, AR 71901
Phone: 501-321-6789
Jason R. | 06.28.07 - 1:50 pm | #

Sadr: The March Will Go On
Moqtada Appeals to All Iraqis to Walk in a Show of Unity July 5
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...arch_Will_Go_On
Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr called on all Iraqis to join him in a demonstration of national unity on July 5, publicly confirming in a statement Thursday that his followers would go forward with their plan to march to the twice-bombed Golden Mosque in Samarra to mark the birth of the Prophet..
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:49 pm | #

Again I ask you folks, what do we do to insist the bad guys are removed? Taking no for an answer or allowing a change of subject just doesn't seem the answer. Not to me.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:26 pm | #

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My belief is that the ending to "Shooter" and the main method of the book "unintended Consequences" by John Ross is the way to most assuredly get these bastards attention. In the book over 600 F-troop agents and many from other agencies, many Senators are dead when the President changes laws ( bullshit gun laws and tax laws) and declares amnesty.
I think we outnumber them.........
One of the best deaths (staged) is for schumer (had a different almost identical name in the book) is found with several different semen samples in his stomack and rectum, died from overdose of cocaine/heroin shots........hell of a party......
Some of the key points to the book was work alone (or with someone you trust your life to)
Tell no-one what you're up to
if you're caught (as my grandfather would say and does often) KEEP YOUR FUCKIN MOUTH SHUT
aka KYFMS
when enough of these ck suckers have paid for their sins, the rest, as they walk into congressional offices past the hanging ex-congressmen, will begin to do their jobs and live by the oaths they all take..........
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:49 pm | #

Better beleive he will be the next President and we all will ghet rid of that military evil cabal that wants to rule the world.The german dictatorship did not loose ww2 like we all thought. They are still under this big evil agenda.
...... Joe | 06.28.07 - 1:26 pm | #

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yes exactly, the globalist illuminati bastards funded that whole NASI effort, operation paperclip brought the slave killing rocket scientists here to have NASA, and the "social engineers" who's specialties are mind control, brainwashing, and propaganda. these same genocidal exploitative bastards, are in control. they are ALL NAZI's!
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 1:43 pm | #

Point is there shouldn't have been even ONE killed in Vietnam (either side) just like there shouldn't have been even ONE killed in Iraq/Afghanistan (either side) -- because our government flat out lied to us in both cases. We shouldn't have been there.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 1:25 pm | #

Amen brother.

Sorry if I in any way put you on the spot.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:37 pm | #

this page might mess up soon, am seeing double I think.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 1:20 pm | #

Yeah wazzup with the DEJA VU?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:36 pm | #

So what the hell does any of that have to do with IMPEACHMENT OF THE CROOKS running (ruining) our country?

I've got a 4 year college degree, I'm 62 years old, my dog's name is Molly -- anything else you want to know?

You said put the pressure on -- okay fine, how?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:03 pm | #

Hi, j. i'm not 62 but im getting there. The bottom line, well i suppose you hit of a good part of it. Get rid of the parassites running this country. The problem, our elite elected officials in public office have done nothing about the swine, so I include them in this managery. We need to clean house and get back to the business of being America. This will be a task for truthers who are with integrity,courage,tenacity, and those who beleive in our constitution. So, your on the right site.
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chris jones | 06.28.07 - 1:30 pm | #

Ron Paul is for real

Better beleive he will be the next President and we all will ghet rid of that military evil cabal that wants to rule the world.The german dictatorship did not loose ww2 like we all thought. They are still under this big evil agenda.

Prescott Bush and Rockfeller financed Hitler and still are . Bush father in the 90's with the invasion of Iraq, Bush son in 2003 another major crime agains't humanity and look what they are doing to America.

What does is take to awake you and stop denying what is going on.

If terror is scaring you, this is because you let it, even if you keep your heads in the sand you won't escape what they want to do.

May the light follow Ron Paul and protect him so we can change this mad evil cabal and put them away so they cannot harm anymore.

Peace to all humanity who beleive in a world in a loving way and peacefull way.
Joe | 06.28.07 - 1:26 pm | #

Please do not take this in any way as disrespectful as I have not served my country in any way near the sacrifices you have made, but I am very curious if you were ever in combat and put in a position where you were foorced to kill. Feel free to tell me that you do not wish to answer as this is a very personal thing and I hope I am in no way insulting you by asking. I apologize if I am and will never ask again if you tell me not to.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:01 pm |
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My War Story --
Joining the army when I was 17 (a high school drop out at the time) I found myself in Germany -- and otherwise safe. Like many Americans at the time, thinking that war would be a glorious experience -- not thinking of the consequences -- and not thinking that our government would ever lie to any of us // I volunteered to change duty assignments and found myself soon thereafter in Vietnam. The entire country was considered a combat zone and we received 40 or 50 $$ extra each month (I forget now how much exactly) for putting our life on the line, so to speak. I was assigned initially to downtown Saigon City where at that time there was hardly any Americans // that felt strange walking around in the city and seeing only people that might or might not be the enemy (impossible to tell what their patriotic North/South concerns were, obviously). While there living in a hotel, another hotel (Victorial) located across town housing US military was blown up early one morning killing nearly everyone (a hundred or so, I suppose) // I left Saigon after about 6 or 7 months and went to live in a tent along the Bong Song River at a bombed out old French compound called Cat Lai. One morning the infantry company that was co-located with us was attacked while in a truck convoy enroute back to Cat Lai, many soldiers were killed that day and I over heard the General say 'go back and burn the damn village to the ground' // but NO I personally saw no actual, up close and dirty combat -- And for that I am quite happy. I thank God for that. A very close childhood friend of mine died there, as did another soldier-friend that I later helped be assigned to Vietnam -- felt terribly sad about both cases. Of course if you speak to another Vietnam Vet you might very well hear about the hundreds of RVN they killed // it truly all depended upon luck (or lack of it), timing, location and job assignment. The marines; and the infantry, the artillery, and armor units sustained many casualties overall. The Vietnam Memorial (Wall) has many names there for those not so lucky. Point is there shouldn't have been even ONE killed in Vietnam (either side) just like there shouldn't have been even ONE killed in Iraq/Afghanistan (either side) -- because our government flat out lied to us in both cases. We shouldn't have been there.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 1:25 pm | #

The Rockefeller Foundation helped found the German eugenics program and even funded the program that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz.

"Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California Connection," San Fransico Chronicle
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ articl...ING9C2QSKB1.DTL
Gomer Blavatsky | 06.28.07 - 1:22 pm | #

this page might mess up soon, am seeing double I think.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 1:20 pm | #

Imagine.
their is TALK of going against BUSH legaly for his ordering of the domestic survelance, WOW.
Arent they couragous. They let him have his wars, murder by the hundred of thousands after his invasion, simply forget about the lies and deceptions of WMD's in Iraq, forget we are bankrupt, forget we are in a war debt of 700Billion, forget 750,000 innocents have been killed, forget habeus corpus was deleted from our constitution, and they have the tanacity to shuffle papers about domestic survelance, boy havent we got some real Political Heroes now.. running this country. Anybody think he will not walk on this, think again. This creature and his mate Cheney can do anything they want to us, thewy are war criminals, comitted crimes against humanity, invaded a soveriegn nation based on lies and now they want him for diddle, and they wont get near him. Well they got some new, some names in the papers, maby a photo or two, so it appears these jokers got what they wanted.
It is without a doubt HUMAN SACRIFICE and we the people know it. Blood for money. And let us not forget the billions missing that was suppose to have gone to IRAQ, just up and disapeared.
They are traitors, and need to be held accountable, if not, if this is how low we have sunk, America has taken its last breath.
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 1:12 pm | #

Report: Pentagon Can't Account For $19 Billion Spent On Iraqi Forces

This is another reason the Browns are right in there fight with income tax none law.

The people have been robbed for long enough paying income taxes.Look what they do with the money 19 miilion unaccounted for, a real fraud.

imagine what we do not know about what they do with our income tax money

There is no law to pay income taxes.
The Browns are right in this. People wake up this income tax is a fraud.

and the people who take jobs as police in these days and serve the evil cabal are wrong .
Your abuse as a police officer is wrong just like what tthe IRS is trying to pull on the Browns.

People of earth time to unite agains't this evil criminal cabal. THe police states they are trying to impose must not be permitted to be . This is abuse by power trip fanaticts that think they have the right to arrest innocent people because they have a badge .

There still are good police people and they must stand agains't this evil just like the senetors who won't stand there grounds agains't the Bush administration.

People Evil is evil and the power trip to dominate people by force is the wrong way.

The right way is the laws of spiritual and Universal nothing else.

Time is here we still have 5 years before 2012 to get our acts together building a peacefull world in a loving spirituality.Those who keep vibrating in the low frequencies will remain in this ending 3rd dimensionnal world.

Disclosure of the ET'S our cousins is near

Denial cannot save you

Humanity has got itself in this mess because we have left the cabal disconnect our minds from our souls with the capitalist materialistic world and greed and selfishness.

We all know 911 show guilt of people evil people that are behind the madness we are going through.

it's the evil cabal that control this world and Bushes and Clintons are the puppets, in America and the rest of the countries governments it's the same thing. Builderbergs, Rockfelars, and Rothchilds and who ever is part of this evil cabal.

Consciousness awareness time to face the truth and the right ways to live wich are the spiritual ways and Universal ways.

May the light guide your journeys in a safe and loving way.

Fanatism only limits your capacities to figure out the truth. Discern what is going on. Much more than what the mainstream and tv are telling you.

The truth isn't what it seems to be or what the cabal mainstream media want you to beleive.

So be wise people and you can think for yourself and know what is right and what is wrong.

Peace and Love
Joe | 06.28.07 - 1:09 pm | #

Ladies and Gentlemen,officers of liberty,the future
of whats left of America is dependent on the LORD and His mercy, I think we may be given places of refuge but only by the Holy Spirits literally telling us where to go,when to stop etc,
think about it~~and plu-ese tell me what you other bible readers think
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 12:03 am | #

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One of my old theories, that I haven't spoken in years, is that the more evil in an area, the more destruction there will be,i.e. Washington DC, large cities, centers of manufacturing and military.......conversely, the less evil/the more natural environment/ecology, the less destruction. In other words if you can disappear into a great National forest and live off the land without being eaten by a bear, hunted down by UN trrops for trespassing, this would be good for survival, bearing in mind I recommend being underground..........
But yes, people are having dreams of areas surrounded by fire, that remain untouched. Follow your heart, that little voice, the Holy Spirit, you will find your way, if you are good and it is God's will..........otherwise hope yo're young, fertile and smart/pretty and I take you along.....or your weapons talents make you valuable enough to tolerate your shortcomings......
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:08 pm | #

get a look at little (youngin!) luke redowski, is BRILLIANT at confronting these dogs, camera rolling and putting it online with www.wearechange.org yeah he's taking big risks and gets into some trouble for it.. he's awesome.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:51 pm | #

It was 2AM one night when I saw the video of him confronting Bryzinfuckhead.

I swear, I cried my eyes out in honor and pride for the young patriots in this country. When I was his age, I could care less about being so courageous.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:04 pm | #

america is rotten to the very core. just the removal of bush and cheney will not solve anything. you have to understand the way your military industrial complex works. america is actually doomed.
bob dole | 06.28.07 - 1:03 pm | #

But this is me calling up memories of long ago and has really NOTHING to do with nothing. Surely got nothing to do with this forum or how we hold our Congress to Impeachment proceedings.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:54 pm | #

Please do not take this in any way as disrespectful as I have not served my country in any way near the sacrifices you have made, but I am very curious if you were ever in combat and put in a position where you were foorced to kill. Feel free to tell me that you do not wish to answer as this is a very personal thing and I hope I am in no way insulting you by asking. I apologize if I am and will never ask again if you tell me not to.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:01 pm | #

Many people haven't woken up because they haven't been told.
I still worry though, there's so much to do, and no matter how much I do I feel like I'm doing nothing, and some people, older friends, find this stuff crazy, making me start feeling crazy feeling wrong.
mr.x | 06.28.07 - 12:34 pm | #

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Mr. x, thanks for your honesty, and Im happy to hear that you see the reality of what is happening in this country and globaly.
It is a chalenge of intelect and soul to face the abominations that are occuring and have occured. It is my sincerest hope that others open their eyes.
Thanks
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 12:59 pm | #

Were you ever in country? Where you ever in public affairs?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:33 pm |
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I still don't know what you're getting at -- (in country?) --

As I said somewhere in passing, a total of 26 years active duty with the U.S. Army // 14 years of that was overseas (various places); the remainder of that 26 was right here at various bases in the United States // Fort Bragg, NC; Fort Lee, VA; Fort Benjamin Harrison, IN; Fort Dix, NJ; Fort Leonard Wood, MO; Fort Riley, KS; Fort Ord, CA; and 4 & 1/2 years in Washington, DC. I am sure I have forgotten to mention a base or two.

Overseas: Saigon/Cat Lai (Vietnam); Baumholder, Finthen Army Airfield, Buedingen, and Heidelberg (all Germany assignments).

While I was (in country?) at Fort Ord, CA -- I attended a 47 week Department of Defense Language Course and learned how to read, write, and speak Japanese // Never was assigned to Japan, but that's how screwed up the army can be at times. All that good training and then never assign a person to where they can use it.

My primary occupational speciality (75Z5HLA3) was in the Career Field of Administration -- where in I was fortunate enough to advance to some of the highest job assignments available for enlisted personnel. For a year or two I was the only enlisted soldier in the entire army making (deciding) worldwide enlisted airborne assignments. But you see, being in Administration, I was assigned to many different types of units // for example: Medical, Engineer, Transportation (both boat and aviation) Major Training Institutes -- to name but a few. All types of units require support skills -- gotta have that pay, those promotions, vacations, duty location assignments, etc (that's the kind of thing involving combat support jobs).

No, never was in Public Affairs --

But this is me calling up memories of long ago and has really NOTHING to do with nothing. Surely got nothing to do with this forum or how we hold our Congress to Impeachment proceedings.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:54 pm | #

>>>>Bush just admitted defeat on a live Press Conference!!!

He then shifted to healthcare saying it is shambles and that budgets need to be balanced?!?!?!?!

He is the biggest cause of both of these problems!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:47 pm | #

Again I ask you folks, what do we do to insist the bad guys are removed? Taking no for an answer or allowing a change of subject just doesn't seem the answer. Not to me.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:26 pm | #

I cannot argue with the importance of impeachment. But it will not happen by yelling "impeach"

It will happen by confronting them where it gets their attention, here is an example:

Senator Byrd,why are not demanding impeachment iimpeachment? Is it because you are afraid of backlash of your KKK past or your raping of project monarch children in your congressional office in the 1980's? Could you please tell your constituents which of these past skeletons you are most fearful of?

_________________

You know Reality based questioning.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:41 pm | #

Don't worry about the past, push forward for Ron Paul; we'll pull the carpet out from under the crooks and murderers !
Gator | 06.28.07 - 12:38 pm | #

what is happening? I spend so much time now studying history--what we didn't even get close to in high school, what we didn't cover in college. I mean, I'm understanding what is happening right now so much better by this, but I still have intense questions about "reality." Obviously I need to study more, infer more, but really, there has been a cycle of elite becoming super kings, pushing to be called "gods," killing off so many millions of people, war with the lower classes, and blow out the civilization. Then those `elite' move to a new country where their cousins or whatever have set it up, and they start over...I really worry because people don't know these things, they don't, on average, know history. they don't know that any society, especially one with liberties like America, is going to be pushed on by these people, they're going to take hold of key positions so they can get kids to take medicines that make them twice as likely to have certain diseases, I mean--talk about any issue to anyone. Anyone, pizza guy, principle, girlfriends' mothers...somebody doesn't like taxes talk about that and move into fed rsv., don't like tickets, tell them every cop makes $300 grand for a city...for real, everybody is affected, if you reference it people can't stay unaffected...people have to realize if it is brought up. Many people haven't woken up because they haven't been told.
I still worry though, there's so much to do, and no matter how much I do I feel like I'm doing nothing, and some people, older friends, find this stuff crazy, making me start feeling crazy feeling wrong.
mr.x | 06.28.07 - 12:34 pm | #

Adjudant General Corp:
Branch Type: Combat Service Support
http://www.us-army-info.com/page...t/ adjutant.html
Birthday: The post of Adjutant General was established June 16th, 1775, and has been continuously in operation since that time. The Adjutant General's Department, by that name, was established by the act of 3 March 1813 and was redesignated the Adjutant General's Corps in 1950.

Mission Statement: To train leaders and soldiers in providing personnel service support for the Army of today and the 21st century through excellence in doctrine, leader development, organization, material, and soldiers.

Branch Type: Combat Service Support

Birthday: The post of Adjutant General was established June 16th, 1775, and has been continuously in operation since that time. The Adjutant General's Department, by that name, was established by the act of 3 March 1813 and was redesignated the Adjutant General's Corps in 1950.

Mission Statement: To train leaders and soldiers in providing personnel service support for the Army of today and the 21st century through excellence in doctrine, leader development, organization, material, and soldiers.

Career Management Fields:
Public Affairs
Administration
Chaplain Assistant
Personnel
Recruiting/Retention
Band
______________________
Were you ever in country? Where you ever in public affairs?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:33 pm | #

simple and cheap, make stencils.
one saying "BUSH" one saying "CHENEY"...
and attack stopsigns allover town with a spraycan. "they" sure hated www.infowars.com being painted on the side of a public building.. using paper plates on telephone poles would get a person in just as much trouble anyway if caught stapling them there. posting infowars and prison planet addies into chatrooms another way to get some people to start reading. when I stumble across a site with a petition that allows me to type stuff I let it fly, same for letters to representatives. I dont threaten, but tell them what I see as disgusting and traitorous. planting mental seeds where we can is working.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:30 pm | #

Okay, that's all fine and good. I do some of that myself. Got lots of people looking at me strange (family and friends) for my beliefs as regards 9/11 -- so what -- it seems truly not enough.

We should hold that Democratic Congress to their word about IMPEACHMENT and not allow them to come back after they've been elected and say 'impeachment is off the table' -- bullshit it is. It needs to be priority number f-ing one.

I think.

Toot your own horn all you like, forum friend, but come to understand there are many of us doing all we can as learning the truths // but learning is certainly not enough. Sure it will come in handy during election time (if we truly ever get to a new election) but IMPEACHMENT seems to me to be a fix all for what's wrong in our country.

And I must fix something: typos.

I was a Master Sergeant (E- when I retired from the army; and I'm 61, not 62 -- I got so damn angry in responding to you that my fingers took on a life of their own.

All the stuff you post is fine and dandy but it really doesn't fix one damn thing that's wrong in this mess we wake up to each morning (that's getting worse each day). Hold our Congress to IMPEACHMENT -- and only that -- seems like the true path to a fix all.

Change the subject, get it lost in the myriad of not so relatively important subjects, in comparison -- and serve those that would have us forget about impeachment. That's how I think we need to fix things // but I'm not one of those smart guys I call out for HELP.

Again I ask you folks, what do we do to insist the bad guys are removed? Taking no for an answer or allowing a change of subject just doesn't seem the answer. Not to me.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:26 pm | #

I am very sure that all of the laws of no touching, no unions without large percentage voting [leads to fake leaders], lock your doors, do not let kids play anywhere, etc. are designed so that we do not deal with each other human to human. I think this is NWO's greatest fear. Dude we are 300 Million people, they are like 50,000 [I am being OVERLY generous]. This is nuts. Just do not stop talking about it. They will at first call you crazy, spit on you, hang up phones and never wish to speak to you again.

This has been designed by NWO. Slowly as things get worse they will be the ones calling you for information and how to get it. Set up local screenings of Loose Change, others.

Use neighborhoods for what they are meant for.

Usually you can find a construction person around. Show him Building 7, their is no doubt.

This shit filters up, believe me. You know how timid congress is. They are scared of their own shadow. When they hear that everyone knows about their kickbacks, corruption, complacency in watching the constitution burn, etc. they fall into line for their constituents. FOr they know if they do not, all of the NWO plans will go up in smoke.

In addition, just for survival it is essential that you talk with everyone about what false flag terrorism is so that they will know it when it happens again and we do not wait 5 years, we will demand truth in 5 days! This is our best protection against terrorism.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:25 pm | #

You said put the pressure on -- okay fine, how?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:03 pm | #
____________________________

Well there are many methods I would imagine you would know better than me, but here are my suggestions....

#1. Let no lie go unchallenged! We are bombarded with lies all day long and it has warped our entire sense of reality. 99% of MSM, 90% of C-SPAN, and 75% of most internet news sources.

This leads to conversations based on lies throughout our community.

The shopping center, the bus trip, even telemarketers are opportunities to drop truth whispers and actually change the nation's conversation. The congress and their families feel it, believe me. Drop these whispers of truth everywhere.

For example, everyone is complaining today about something....show them what the source of the issues are...

When I was on line at a pharmacy, the person in front of me was giving the pharmacist a hard time because of price/quantity, etc.

I just pointed out that since Bush got $1 million on the pharma medicare kickback scam, he can expect to pay even more and since our coffers are growing by a trillion a month due to foreign policy he can expect it to get worse.

Dude, the whole drugstore almost started applauding, wtf.

Truth cuts through the matrix like a hot knife through butter.

I love talking to telemarketers...

Do you currently get the LA Times....

Why should I they never talk about how Cheney blew up the World Trade Center. I mean why should I support a CIA front group?

I am pissed that my tax money is being spent recruiting all of the LA Times journalists and are also going to fund the illegal wiretaping of this conversation.

I get a multitude of responses for this "ass-wipe" behavior, but it is necessary that we bring people to reality. Do not let complacency and head in sand attitudes continue.

Call everyone on the fog of BS we are being enslaved to lives in for generations.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:15 pm | #

"However, some members of London's Arab community believe he might have committed suicide after he was diagnosed with a serious illness."

yeah sure, he committed suicide as he walked in the door...who rewrites this shit?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:03 pm | #

I retired as a Masrer Sergeant, U.S. Army, Adjutant General Corps (second oldest branch in the military -- the first being infantry) // spent 14 years overseas, was an instructor, was a force management NCO, worked at HQDA in Washington, DC, worked at HQ Europe --

So what the hell does any of that have to do with IMPEACHMENT OF THE CROOKS running (ruining) our country?

I've got a 4 year college degree, I'm 62 years old, my dog's name is Molly -- anything else you want to know?

You said put the pressure on -- okay fine, how?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:03 pm | #

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ pages...in_page_id=1811

and another one gone, another one gone, another one bites the dust..
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:00 pm | #

Yes I was ass-wipe. What's your dumbass point now? You tell us smart guy HOW (??) to fix this mess short of demanding impeachment of the ones causing our problem. TELL US.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 11:58 am | #
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You were in country? Army, marines, infantry?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:59 am | #

>>>>>Bush suffers major defeat: immigration reform bill blocked in Senate
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ma..._bill_0628.html
President Bush suffered a major defeat Thursday as the immigration reform bill was defeated in the Senate. Although there had been strong conservative opposition to the bill, the president had been pushing for it hard the last few weeks.

"The Senate drove a stake Thursday through President Bush's plan to legalize millions of unlawful immigrants, likely postponing major action
Bush, seeking to salvage the biggest domestic initiative of his final two years in office, called senators earlier in the morning seeking help.

However, supporters needed 60 votes in the 100-member Senate to keep the bill alive. Aligned against it were conservatives who derided the legislation as a grant of amnesty for illegal behavior and some Democrats who said it would leave a new group of temporary workers vulnerable to exploitation.

Supporters pointed to the bill's tougher border security and workplace enforcement measures, along with an immediate infusion of $4.4 billion to pay for them, as reasons to keep the bill alive for a final vote Friday.

The carefully crafted compromise was left for dead after a similar vote three weeks ago but was revived by Bush and Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, who gave opponents more chances to change it.
___________________________

This is just one of the many differences we make!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:58 am | #

How do we do it. There must be some truly smart people out there in this land of ours -- How???????????????????????????
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 11:51 am | #

You served in Vietnam and were in the armed services for 26 years?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:55 am
__________________
Yes I was ass-wipe. What's your dumbass point now? You tell us smart guy HOW (??) to fix this mess short of demanding impeachment of the ones causing our problem. TELL US.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 11:58 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...kateboarder.htm

surprised the kid didnt bash the cops head in with a skateboard truck for seeing the bully choking his friend.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:53 am | #

>>>>>>>>>FTC: Net neutrality is unnecessary
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/...not- needed.html
The Federal Trade Commission today dealt a serious blow to "Net Neutrality" proponents as it issued a report dismissive of claims that the government needs to get involved in preserving the fairness of networks in the United States.
FCC forces rural phone companies to carry VoIP traffic
Analysis: Google's net neutrality position leaves unanswered questions
GAO report finds little competition, higher prices in deregulated markets
Net Neutrality: Craig-listing the issue

The report, entitled "Broadband Connectivity Competition Policy," was drafted in response to growing concerns about broadband competitiveness and network neutrality. The FTC intends the report to be consulted as a guideline by policy makers and legislators, but it has no binding force. Nevertheless, the report's findings are yet another sign that US government agencies are not particularly interested in the network neutrality problem right now. In fact, the FTC is essentially saying that they can find no evidence of a problem to begin with.

In a statement, Chairman Deborah Platt Majoras said, "This report recommends that policy makers proceed with caution in the evolving, dynamic industry of broadband Internet access, which generally is moving toward more - not less - competition. In the absence of significant market failure or demonstrated consumer harm, policy makers should be particularly hesitant to enact new regulation in this area."

The "hands-off" approach is the approach preferred by the telecoms, who will also be delighted that Chairman Majoras cleared them of any wrong-doing in their network management so far. Nevertheless, the FTC says that it will continue to monitor the situation, as will the FCC and DOJ. Perhaps more encouraging for proponents of such legislation, the FTC says that increased awareness of the debate will help them with monitoring the need for government regulation.

"As a byproduct of the ongoing debate over network neutrality regulation, the agencies have a heightened awareness of the potential consumer harms from certain conduct by, and business arrangements involving, broadband providers," the report states. "Perhaps equally important, many consumers are now aware of such issues. Consumers—particularly online consumers—have a powerful collective voice. In the area of broadband Internet access, they have revealed a strong preference for the current open access to Internet content and applications."

Indeed, while this appears to be another victory for the opponents of net neutrality, the language of the report suggests that should something more fishy arise, the FTC will be watching. In particular, the report says that the FTC will be watching a set of particular questions closely:
How much demand will there be from content and applications providers for data prioritization?
Will effective data prioritization, throughout the many networks comprising the Internet, be feasible?
Would allowing broadband providers to practice data prioritization necessarily result in the degradation of non-prioritized data delivery?
When will the capacity limitations of the networks comprising the Internet result in unmanageable or unacceptable levels of congestion?
If that point is reached, what will be the most efficient response thereto: data prioritization, capacity increases, a combination of these, or some as yet unknown technological innovation?

As you can see, these are all very fundamental questions, and indeed the answer to all of them involves a giant helping of "wait and see."

Further reading:
FTC Report (PDF)
http://www.ftc.gov/reports/ broad...70000report.pdf
FTC Statement
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/06/b.../ broadband.shtm
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:53 am | #

Keep the pressure on, we make a difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:44 am
________________________
I'd like to think that is true, but I'm not so sure.

What are any one of us doing to put that pressure on? I know who I intend to vote for come 2008 BUT that sure doesn't fix the mess right now. There was much talk about IMPEACHMENT before the Democrats got hold of the Congress// Well, they're there now and NO IMPEACHMENT.

That's where our pressure needs to be applied. Uniform steady pressure to get rid of the problem children first. Fix that, first. Nothing else is more important than first things FIRST.

Anyone got any good honest suggestions as to how to enforce IMPEACHMENT of all the gangsters in control of us? What difference can we make if those in control remain in control? None. Postponements, further lies -- that's about it. Get rid of the problem and the problem is no more. IMPEACH the bastards!!

How do we do it. There must be some truly smart people out there in this land of ours -- How???????????????????????????
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 11:51 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...kateboarder.htm

this story is outright disgusting, if the kids own PARENT did something like this theyed be jailed immediately, and the mayor calling this officer one of the cities 100 finest ?!!
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:50 am | #

what I find amazing is that members of congress or military havent hauled MANY people in DC away in chains, including bush, cheney, rumsfeld, rice, gonzalez, and all their appointees.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:40 am | #
+++++++++++++++++++++

Keep the pressure on, we make a difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:44 am | #

I missed yesterdays show

http://globalplantation.org/aj_radio/

for download, right click "save target as"
.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:43 am | #

Sane, you beat me to the immigration bill being blocked! That's okay though, it's great news.
Scanner | 06.28.07 - 11:39 am | #

RFID / AMNESTY BILL BLOCKED IN SENATE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course it will pop up again. We need to keep the heat on until at least July 4th!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:36 am | #

Sorry...against continuing debate!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:35 am | #

Immigration Bill pulled by Reid after vote of 53-46 AGAINST continuing debate!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:34 am | #

Tony Blair Is the Wrong Man for the Job
Bringing peace to the Middle East is a noble goal, but he wants to do too much.
By Shmuel Rosner
Posted Wednesday, June 27, 2007, at 5:18 PM ET
http://www.slate.com/id/2169291/...69291/nav/tap3/

It was a sunny day in London, and newly elected Prime Minister Tony Blair was sharing a press conference with his American friend and mentor President Bill Clinton. The future of progressivism was the topic of the day, and the two leaders bathed each other in compliments. "This is the generation that prefers reason to doctrine," explained the Brit. It is a generation "strong in ideals but indifferent to ideology, whose instinct is to judge government not on grand designs but by practical results."

With all the end-of-era commentary about Blair's relationship with President George W. Bush—"It was the last time they played Christopher Robin and Pooh," joked Conan O'Brien after their final Rose Garden press conference—it's easy to forget the Clinton-esque air of Blair's first years in office. But now, with the so-called international quartet—the United States, Russia, European Union, and United Nations—making Blair its special peace envoy to the Middle East, it seems that Blair is about to wrap up his tenure as he started it: the Clinton way. That is, by failing to achieve the "practical results" he praised on that sunny day at 10 Downing Street.

Like Clinton, who also dedicated his last days in office to the momentous task of bringing peace to the Holy Land, Blair was not shy about the goals he would like to achieve: "The only way of bringing stability and peace to the Middle East is a two-state solution, which means a state of Israel that is secure and confident in its security and a Palestinian state that is not merely viable in terms of its territory, but in terms of its institutions and government," he said. "I believe it is possible to do that, but it will require a huge intensity of focus and work."
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:31 am | #

Impeach Cheney
The vice president has run utterly amok and must be stopped.
By Bruce Fein
Posted Wednesday, June 27, 2007, at 5:06 PM ET
http://www.slate.com/id/2169292/...69292/nav/tap1/
Under Dick Cheney, the office of the vice president has been transformed from a tiny acorn into an unprecedented giant oak. In grasping and exercising presidential powers, Cheney has dulled political accountability and concocted theories for evading the law and Constitution that would have embarrassed King George III. The most recent invention we know of is the vice president's insistence that an executive order governing the handling of classified information in the executive branch does not reach his office because he also serves as president of the Senate. In other words, the vice president is a unique legislative-executive creature standing above and beyond the Constitution. The House judiciary committee should commence an impeachment inquiry. As Alexander Hamilton advised in the Federalist Papers, an impeachable offense is a political crime against the nation. Cheney's multiple crimes against the Constitution clearly qualify.

Take the vice president's preposterous theory that his office is outside the executive branch because it also exercises a legislative function. The same can be said of the president, who also exercises a legislative function in signing or vetoing bills passed by Congress. Under Cheney's bizarre reasoning, President Bush is not part of his own administration: The executive branch becomes acephalous. Today Cheney Chief of Staff David Addington refused to renounce that reasoning, instead laughably trying to diminish the importance of the legal question at issue.

The nation's first vice president, John Adams, bemoaned: "My country has in its wisdom contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived; and as I can do neither good nor evil, I must be borne away by others and meet common fate." Vice President John Nance Garner, serving under President Franklin D. Roosevelt, lamented: "The vice presidency isn't worth a pitcher of warm piss." In modern times, vice presidents have generally been confined to attending state funerals or to distributing blankets after earthquakes.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:30 am | #

aww, but cheney wants his agua-negro mercenaries too (the MF!!)
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:30 am | #

The immigration thing -- just watching it again on C-SPAN // those that want it so very bad // those that are telling their partners in the Senate how absolutely wrong this is -- same old stuff, over and over, no matter what the subject.

Look, Mexico has been hanging around down there under these United States for many a year now -- and we've had an influx of people coming here (in the millions, of course, no question) BUT the problem is one to easily fix -- those people are coming here because of the job that pay better than in their own country. The jobs, that's what's bringing them here -- stop those jobs -- stop those greedy people from hiring illegals and they won't have jobs, plain and simple.

But our government won't do that (a little here, a little more there) because our government wants to destroy our country as we know it. It's a very simple concept -- our government won't do anything about our borders or stopping those jobs because our government wants a blend of our two countries. That makes for more slaves in the over all. Give them what we got and they become cannon fodder to help fight our continuing wars. Wars aren't going away, they may even escalate. Most likely will; right now we use those low paying job to attract the people here; I believe the plan is to absorb them so they will do our fighting and dying right alongside those people that will lose their identify as former American citizens. All part of a New World Order where the ones in control now get even more control. People (regardless of where they now live) don't mean anything to those that are in control. Keep our troops away from our shores (here in the United States) tangled up in an unjust war (which we have no business being involved in anyway) and that makes it even easier to lose control over those borders. The borders are non-existent because our government wants it that way. If not they would be speaking with ONE VOICE to fix the flow and get our troops home to protect our homeland. They're not doing that for a reason, folks. Fight them over there (which is an absolute stupid concept -- but many sheep believe it regardless, as if they are going to come running to our shores to fight us all the way from across that vast ocean that serves as a natural border/barrier) -- a flat out lie, the government just wants to keep our troops away from where they are truly needed // right here in 'River City' defending our land, ensuring our continued freedoms and democracy. Our President thinks he's the President of Iraq more than the place he should be thinking about -- The United States of America.

Bush started the wheels in motion the first week he was 'made' our President -- that same week he spent time in Mexico with President Fox (Mexico) discussing the days ahead. It was all over that TV we watch entirely way too much but never seem to learn anything from it in the process.

People wanting to come to this land for a better life is not a new concept // that's what our land was founded upon -- and should continue to be. But this allowing change on purpose and calling it something else -- THAT'S TREASON.

We need to unite to IMPEACH the lot of them and then get things back on track once the obstacles have been removed. This is our country, our land, and we need to stand and fight for it -- not some other place thousands of miles away.

Demand IMPEACHMENT and get those liars out of office and into jail cells where they belong.

Vote Ron Paul 2008 but INSIST on changing things right now. 2008 is a long ways away // just like Iraq.

I feel a bit better after unloading all that on you guys. Sorry but I feel there is truth in it.

We've got to fix the first problem before we can fix the next. The first should be IMPEACH those crooks. All else should fall neatly into place.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 11:26 am | #

US Commanders In Iraq: We Expect Congress Will Impose Timeline For Withdrawal
http://www.latimes.com/news/nati...ack=8& cset=true
Outgoing Bush Counselor Bartlett: "If There Was Ever A Do-Over, [Mission Accomplished] Would Be It"
http://men.style.com/gq/ features...id=content_5737
Ann Coulter Loses It On "Morning Joe"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...n- _n_54129.html
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:25 am | #

repost from yesterday

part 1

Mainstream Media, the so called "NEWS" owned by a small handfull of corporations, omits the truth and lies to the people.
this is WHY there is a truth movement going strong online.

this is also WHY the corporations are lobbying to regulate the internet, "THEY" the corporations and the government that serves THEM, do not want the people informed with the TRUTH.

when the corporations have more influence over the government than the people, this is known as fascism.
when the news doesnt tell people the truth..
this is known as mind controlling propaganda.

look to the results of the polls, people know whats going on.
We The People, are NOT happy with this situation and the induviduals that are supposed to be representing US.

the US military is being dismantled and the UN military is being beefed up. Halliburton/KBR/Blackwater mercenary troops in the middle east are 1/3 of the forces over there, doing things our own military are forbidden to do, and making things far more dangerous for the LEGITEMATE armed forces who are there fighting because of corporate GREED, not "freedom".

all of OUR infrastructure is being sold to foreign interests, the roadways, water companies, utilities, and more. corporate welfare (3x what the people ever get) granted to companies to leave the country, to leave people HERE unemployed, is definitely unAmerican and outright treasonous. the politicians selling public property as if it were theirs personally!

THESE THINGS are why "the corporate government" wants to control the internet, so "they" can keep getting rich as they turn what was a free country into even MORE a fascist slave state than it already is. ALL the "LAWS" need to be reviewed, and anything against the constitution needs to be tossed.

I'm not the only one who understands how all this came about, this serfdom and slavery MESS.. all the courtrooms are flying a MARITIME LAW FLAG with the GOLD FRINGE, because a baby comes from the MOTHERS WATER ... through the BIRTH CANAL and into this country by way of a PORTMASTER who issues the receipt known as a birth certificate, so we are regarded as property, not citizens!! its LAWYERSPEAK !!

it's all the same reasons there was a revolution here for independance some 230 years ago, and actually a whole lot worse than what KING GEORGE was demanding back then.
if it comes to that I hope it is peaceful, the other way is ugly.
(and probably more likely)

Halliburton/KBR/Blackwater has some 800 FEMA CAMPS built and waiting that can hold maybe 20 million people, is the truth the media will not tell us, this wouldnt remind me of NAZI GERMANY at all (yeah right) and was all no-bid contracted by DICK CHENEY, former CEO of Halliburton, which has just moved to DUBAI.. near to Middle East OIL for some reason.

and were supposed to live in fear of "the terrorists" while we give up all our freedoms, as the southern border is wide open with 30 odd million illegal residents are here making demands!
(we already HAVE good immigration and naturalization laws)
the Mexican government is a corporate fascist state that is crying about people from there, can come here and purchase weapons too easily, that the US needs tougher gun control laws.
-which is only because the people there DO resist the tyranny.
I honestly feel as bad for the people there as the people here, the only difference being people here are far more unaware of the fascisms for having their heads in the sand, much of this is for the controlled news media, but the truth IS getting out and is unstoppable. choices will be made, procrastinated of course.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:17 am | #

theres another point we could allways drop or current cash for other contires money, ppl do that alot now aday but the exchange is a bitch sometimes, but if you say chain out to Yin you could still use american banking for transactions but the money flow wouldn't be there for the ill to gain
whocares | 06.28.07 - 11:16 am | #

repost from yesterday

part 2

I wouldnt know if you are a "good guy" or a "bad guy" regarding this New World Order.. one world government all controlled by corporate interests, all I know is global slavery and serfdom is NOT a good thing, Hitler tried it, he was funded by globalist "elite" bankers.. prescott bush was one of them.
(theres a TON more dirt on that BUSH FAMILY, skull and bones, bohemian grove, rockefellers, rothschilds, black nobility, etc.)
I also know serving these types of masters is a one way ticket to hell, history repeats itself and these plans ALWAYS fail!

(sidenote: operation paperclip after WW2 was to bring slave killing rocket scientists to the US so we could have NASA, and also "social engineers" who's specialties are mind control and propaganda. during WW2, wealthier 'jews' were about extorted to be able to leave germany, the only destination allowed was what is now known as ISREAL, where they had total control. the "STATE of ISREAL" has seats in congress and lobbyists from hell.. keep this NAZI connection in mind.)

the use of Depleted Uranium munitions in the middle east is scorched earth inhuman genocidal crimes against humanity, this only proves the "war" there is about the OIL, not for us to have and use it, but to keep it in the ground creating an artificial shortage to keep prices UP, no one gonna want to work the derricks there to glow in the dark and die of radiation poisoning to make someone else richer, period.

this "business as usual" has to stop sometime, and I really dont think the solution is instigating world war three (or four as the "elite" call it because the 3rd one is the economic warfare that is going on right now) and this "New World Order" junk is only more of the same, "business as usual". I know the plan is to wipe out some 90% of the global population and control what's left.. and all of it NAZI/FASCIST style with its alphabet soup of FBI CIA NSA KGB SS EU NAU UN etc etc. and its wrong!

http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanm.../ stanmeyer.html
-get a look at this, he was murdered for it.

the whole New World Order / Illuminati motto is order out of chaos.. create the chaos and create order by force.
problem>reaction>solution
create the problem, wait for the alarms, offer up a horrible solution, and one a LITTLE more reasonable to watch people reach for the "lesser evil". we understand this bad game.

GHW BUSH, was CIA and in charge of Air America (private like Blackwater) trading weapons for opium in korea and vietnam.
BUSH later as vice president under Reagan, oliver north and noriega trading cocaine for weapons... (with billyboy clinton taking cocaine shipments into MENA ARKANSAS, and HILLARY's ROSE LAW FIRM setting up TYSON CHICKEN as a big money laundering operation for it all..) john hinkley shoots Reagan, (coincidentally the hinkley family is friends of the bush family) then NANCY gets on the podium with the "JUST SAY NO" campaign .. tell the kiddies NO and turn youre back they reach right for it, this was advertizing the drugs because SOMEBODY had a LOT to get rid of. cocaine and amphetamine users will lie cheat and steal from friends and family to support their habit .. oh we need more police and more jails!! .. then the taxpayer funds em and they get "privatized", sold to a corporation. violent offenders are caught and released to keep pressure on the populace and more demand for "law enforcement" while the non violent are put to a workee-workee program.. inmate slavewaged to the corporations, while the taxpayers pay 50-60,000 a year per inmate for them to be there. inmates booking flights for TWA, telemarketing, PC troubleshooting for billy gates, etc etc.
- as the police state grows by leaps and bounds -
-this "war on drugs" is a farce allright-

(sidenote: they urinalyze for drugs but cocaine and amphetamines leave a persons system in 24-36 hours, but someone who might smoke a little pot.. it stays 30+ days detectable.. and these people are far less harmful than any powderhead.. they dont freak out stealing for not having pot. its the differences in the way these drugs affect the minds of the users! someone on powders is dangerous for always rushing in whatever they do when "UP", and always dangerously slacking when "DOWN", they call in sick when down too. they use a lot of alcohol to come down typically.
-and for burning the candle at both ends, they wont reach retirement age for social security, they have a lot of medical problems for the use/abuse, which is good for the medical and insurance industries. most non-violent offenders in lockup are pot heads. the insurance corporations and the AMA have made it so the better workers are more likely to be unemployed and locked up. it all works out well for "the unproductive police state")

the trouble with this, police, lawyers, judges, insurance corporations .. ARE NOT PRODUCTIVE, the do NOT produce goods for sale and profit, they are just an expense to the people. since the creation of the (non)federal reserve and going off the gold and silver backed monetary system, our WORTH was based on our productive capacity.. look at what these "free trade agreements" and "corporate welfares" have done to OUR WORTH. insurance companies make bank off the FEAR of WHAT IF.. and if something DOES happen they try to weasel out of making payment on a claim. and right now the president and vice president have declared themselves totally ABOVE THE LAW, any law. go figger.

exactly how much really treasonous manipulations do "these people in charge" think they can get away with, without everyone seeing it for what it is?

then theres 9-11-2001 with "terrorist arabs carrying box cutters" ... NO WAY !!
the buildings columns were precision cut with THERMATE to make them drop at freefall speed, larry silverstein's own words about a decision to "pull it" -controlled demolition takes weeks of preparation. who was in charge of security at the WTC but a BUSH, who's contract ENDED that day! coincidence? NOT!!
meanwhile CHENEY is in a bunker telling the stand down order is still in effect to make sure the planes hit thier targets!

so how much TREASON are "We The People" supposed to put up with?! we know what has gone on and what IS going on, but no one dares take these drug dealing THIEVES out of office. if anything, theyre in on the take, helping it all happen.
GEE THANKS
letter to congressmen thru JBS site.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:15 am | #

tidbit of reality and "federal reserve":
the whole illuminazi game is deceptions and lies, smoke and mirrors, rewriting histories, dumbing down populations to maintain controls. I think it would be fair to use the same "banking game" against them. Japan, England, much of Europe..
never repaid the US for rebuilding them after WW2, they ought to be told "you owe US, with interest for 60 years". my own father was a child slave laborer in a religion owned cannery filling boxcars of food for Europe after WW2, age 9-10 working long hours like an adult doing this, stolen childhood. I know why he is bitter about it.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:13 am | #

Blair quizzed again over corruption probe: report
Published: Thursday June 28, 2007 http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ Bla...n_06282007.html

Former prime minister Tony Blair has been questioned by police a third time over party political corruption allegations, the Press Association news agency said Thursday, quoting unnamed sources.

The "cash for honours" inquiry was launched last year amid claims that political parties had illegally offered seats in the unelected upper House of Lords to financial supporters.

Blair left office Wednesday and was replaced by former finance minister Gordon Brown, who was unveiling his ministerial team as the information about Blair emerged.

He had previously been interviewed twice as a witness and members of his cabinet have also been quizzed. Blair was the first sitting prime minister to be questioned as part of a criminal inquiry.

A spokeswoman for London's Metropolitan Police, which is leading the investigation, told AFP that they were "not prepared to discuss" the report. Blair's representatives were not immediately contactable.

Four people have been arrested during the probe, including two of Blair's closest aides, Lord Michael Levy, who was Labour's chief fundraiser and Middle East envoy, and Ruth Turner, a senior Downing Street official under Blair.

Levy and Turner, plus businessman and Labour Party backer Sir Christopher Evans, remain on bail. They deny any wrong-doing and no-one has been charged in the case.

Police have questioned at least 136 people either as witnesses or suspects and have now handed a 216-page dossier to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), which will decide whether anyone should face criminal proceedings.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:12 am | #

yeah i can agree with the financial slavery part, look at the times, we went from a strate cash society back in the hayday of the slave society, and now we are all slaves to a system that just usese and crrupts the founding idiology that was placed here for a reason, all aspects have been cruppted sense there makeing, the DCA The FCC the ITRS cia fbi blah blah.
whocares | 06.28.07 - 11:11 am | #

RAW STORY CONTINUES TO KICK MAJOR ASS!!

Frank Rich: Bush exists 'in a bubble...insulated from reality'
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Fr...about_0627.html
Showdown: White House won't turn over docs; Leahy accuses Bush of 'Nixonian stonewalling'
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Wh..._over_0628.html
Breaking: Court overturns race-based school admissions...
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Su...sions_0628.html
Economic growth worst in four years
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....y.html%3F.v% 3D6
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:11 am | #

yes the (non)Federal (nothing in)Reserve is a private bank/corporation with the rothschilds being a major shareholder. they print money out of nothing and LOAN it to the government charging interest. they've already cleared out fort knox of near all its gold.. it's whole purpose is to create an artificial national deficit that can never be repaid.. financial SLAVERY manipulations.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:03 am | #

"The times,
they are a changing"
When the Mexicans start pouring into American
{more so} and begin to flood the U.S. military with an
ever growing hate on for Americans because they still won't welcome all Hispanics with open arms. One has to wonder if they will thank the government for granting them amnesty and the self-elected government hints that it's payback time {people of greed now want triple returns and that includes congress} and start rounding up Americans of all ethnic backgrounds, and allowed to become soldiers of the Order. When the time comes, it's Mexicans who will be used to
point the guns at Mrs. Wilson and her children
and other nationals who dislike
the corrupted government
system and escort them to
the nearest halliburton-
blackwater family camp.
pariah gait | 06.28.07 - 11:00 am | #

that seems to be more benificual way to protest then get maced on the side of the road, just fucking leave..." I will leave, i already have plans on going to mexico when all the mexicans come here, you guys can have them will i chll at my lagoon
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:45 am | #

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I like it, Mexico is complaining that people FROM there can come here and buy GUNS too easily, that the US needs tighter gun control laws. what IF a massive amount of people FROM HERE just moved there, armed to the teeth.. lets see how THEIR GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE respond to "illegal immigration/invasion".. hell, it might even wake up these idiots destroying America in washington DC.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 10:59 am | #

list of senaters home phone numbers and addresses

http://halturnershow.com/ HomeAdd...onSenators.html
americanpeasant | 06.28.07 - 10:58 am | #

sethings, is it true about the micro chip part of this new bill that is comeing out, that would make more sense about them going cashless, although i stated before that this was already a cashless society from way back, do you know that the FR isnt really a gov thing, its a private thing easyly aboloshed ..and can be made illegal
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:56 am | #

pease be with you all, i do really beleave now thast the time of trubbles is starting, we are all liveing in a scary time, anything we can do to provent more attrosities, from being planned and exxicuted will make for a better tomorrow....in the eyes of the creator.
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:52 am | #

I heard that major supermarkets like Albertsons, Safeway, Von's and others are seriously considering doing away with cash at the checkout counter; their info tracking card becomes an inhouse credit card.
bill the cat | 06.28.07 - 8:05 am | #

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the money thing is less an issue than the tracking. it cost billions to implement the "preferred customer cards" put in heavily about 10-11 years ago.. using the card the prices are only a little higher than we were used to. without the cards... bend over! the cards arent necessary for the stores restocking inventory, the cash register scanners take care of this.. what the cards REALLY DO is ID youre purchases to you personally to know what you eat, how much, what color, and how stinky. this information is given to the insurance and medical industry so they know what to prescribe tomorrow for the symptoms of the crap you're eating today. this IS why they have done these things in the first place.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 10:50 am | #

sane, also made it a point a few ago, to come up with a humain way of dealing wiwith the problem at, hand...if we all go tell them we are leaveing in masses of millions .. i think they will listen to us
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:43 am | #

here, here these evil people only get there power from the masses, so this is waht i suggest you do.,.to fuck them over so they dont get more money.. you = $$$ to them that is all...a there was a bill passesd awhile back about 2000 that would if you so choose strip your american rights and they send you away, if we all leave they have no power, something to ponder.
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:40 am | #

wow, has anyone heard of them useing DU in the chemtrails acroess american attempting for us to get ready for a nuc attack? that's scarry, and does anyone know wither the amisty bill passes, i called 5 of my congress men to ban it.
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:37 am | #

Where is she now? I've always thought it was odd that "one of their own" was killed on 9/11. As it is a virtual certainty that Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon, what happened to Mrs. Olson? Is she retired to the Islands? Was she terminally ill and went away to die having performed her part of the program? Was she offed and "put on the plane" as a convenient coverup? Just one more loose end that may unravel someday.
bop | 06.28.07 - 10:30 am | #

US Shielding Culture Minister From Arrest?
South American Contractors Reportedly Barred Iraqi Police From al-Rashind Hotel
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...ter_From_Arrest
Sabah Arar/AFP/Getty
Baghdad, IRAQ: A picture dated 24 June 2007 shows Iraqi Sunni Minister of Culture Asad Kamal al-Hashemi attending a ceremony in Baghdad to honour journalists who were killed in acts of violence in Iraq.
As'ad Kamal al-Hashemi, the culture minister being charged with acts of terrorism for a 2005 attack on Iraqi MP Mithal al-Alusi
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Terrorist does not get prosecuted and civilians get beheaded, WAKE UP!!!!

WE ARE NOT BEING ALLOWED TO WIN!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:13 am | #

Twenty Beheaded Bodies Found South of Baghdad
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...outh_of_Baghdad
All Those Killed Men in Civilian Clothes with Their Hands and Legs Bound
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We need to get the fuck out of there NOW!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:11 am | #

Here's an interesting article for you out there still interested in 9/11 truths vs. the many lies that continue:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ amr...amrarticle.html

Mr. Olson saying (after changing his story back and forth between seatback telephone and cell phone) claims his wife used the seatback telephone and called him collect BECAUSE she didn't have her credit card // doesn't make any sense since a credit card is necessary to activate the telephone in the first place.

What's this all about? Him getting caught in a BIG LIE, maybe.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 10:01 am | #

How to condition our children to a false flag terror attack so that they are tricked into obeying officials into getting a train ride to a Halliburton Death Camp. Use the Joe Camel method-ccol things like trading cards:
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Sick Idea: CDC Hands Out Disease Trading Cards - News Story - WSB ...They might not replace baseball trading cards as a hobby, but the Centers for Disease Control says sick trading cards are amazingly popular. It’s CDC’s way ...
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/135817...792/ detail.html
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:57 am | #

An entire class bullies a student when teacher leaves (video)
http://www.liveleak.com/view? i=0...=07b_1177957276
Poor kid.

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This is on purpose. Kids are being encouraged to practice bullying and kids who snitch, act smart are squashed. The bullies get minimal official reprimand and are put on a higher platform socially.

The activities in today's schools show much of the sociaty to come.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:51 am | #

This Planet Ain't Big Enough For The 6,500,000,000 Of Us
http:// www.belfasttelegraph.co.u...icle2715156.ece
Behind the climate crisis lies a global issue that no one wants to tackle: do we need radical plans to reduce the world's population? Chris Rapley sparks the debate

Anti-DRM Activists Take On the BBC
http://yro.slashdot.org/article....7/06/09/ 1454234
"Activists from Binary Freedom Boston have launched a campaign calling on the BBC to release their content online without DRM or proprietary formats. You might remember the BBC asking us about this earlier and even though the public chose not to use DRM by a landslide, they still decided to use it. EMI and Amazon have already ditched DRM.

Report: ‘Shadow Goverment’ Of Private Contractors Explodes
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...xman-contracts/
A new report by the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform concludes that, under the Bush administration, the “shadow government of private companies working under federal contract has exploded in size.

Man dies on stand testifying about death of California girlfriend
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/ sto...EMPLATE=DEFAULT
An Italian accused of killing his American girlfriend after he kidnapped their daughter suffered a heart attack and died on the stand Monday as he testified in court for the first time, his lawyer said.

Suspect Shoots Himself In The Head In Interrogation Room
http://www.snopes.com/photos/ gru...interrogate.asp
Read the Title, this is no BS and this page proves it.

No company has profited more from the carnage in Iraq than Halliburton
http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...070709/ truthdig
As the Iraq war that Vice President Dick Cheney created continues to shred American--and many more Iraqi--lives, further documentation has emerged proving that, even during failed wars, the merchants of death profit.

Voinovich self-destructs on Hannity
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp? ...RTICLE_ID=56414
Sean Hannity's persistent grilling about the senator's intentions on key cloture votes leading to a showdown on what is characterized as an "amnesty" bill that caused Voinovich to melt down before millions of listeners today.

Middletown Police threatened council members
http://middletownpolicenews.blog...il- members.html
The investigation should be dealt with as openly as possible to confirm the cloud of suspicion that has been raised over the police department, said Mayor Sebastian N. Giuliano.

As no-bid deals soar, congressional panel wants more oversight
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19470398/
Roughly half of the money spent on all federal contracts in 2006 was awarded with little or no competition, according to a congressional report released yesterday.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:45 am | #

Bush won't supply subpoenaed documents
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20070...jjm7jeS9Cys0NUE
The White House, moving toward a constitutional showdown with Congress, asserted executive privilege Thursday and rejected lawmakers' demands for documents that could shed light on the firings of federal prosecutors.

Students change university computers from Windows to Linux.
http://noticias.uol.com.br/ educa...lt4528u111.jhtm
Students occupying the University of Sao Paulo ´s chancellors office changed 46 computer's operating systems from Windows to Linux. Files were erased and 13 of the computers cant be fixed. [story in Portuguese]

The Randomization Failure That Rigged The 1969 Draft Lottery
http://www.rhodes.edu/Psych/ wetz...aftlottery.html
During the early part of the Vietnam war, males could be exempt from serving in the military (and being sent to war) by attending college. Eventually this practice was ruled unfair and a lottery was instituted. Except for the lottery wasn't exactly random.

A First! The Fed As a Presidential Campaign Issue
http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewr...ves/ 013791.html
Although Ron Paul's formal education is in medicine, he is qualified to discuss money and economics as he has long studied the works of the great free market economist Ludwig von Mises. Mises is famous for his writings on money and for having exposed the fallacy of a central authority controlling the money supply.

Zbigniew Brzezinski's Daughter Refuses To Report Propaganda Tabloid Trash
http://www.roguegovernment.com/n...ews.php? id=2772
Mika Brzezinski the daughter of Zbigniew Brzezinski a man heavily involved in globalization and pro New World Order organizations recently refused to report a story on Paris Hilton during an MSNBC news program. Brzezinski attempted to light the story on fire and eventually ended up putting the story in a paper shredder. Video is included.

Schwarzenegger Wants All World Countries Under One Environmental Treaty
http://www.jonesreport.com/ artic...ironmental.html
As California Governor Schwarzenegger visited Tony Blair, he announced his desire for a one-world environmental treaty, "a Kyoto kind of treaty" that would "bring all the countries of the world together," suggesting that Blair could head such an unsovereign treaty that would bind mankind under tyranny on quite a flimsy premise.

[PHOTOS] Tortures Devices. (St. Petersburg museum, Russia)
http://throughweb.net/?p=217
...in reality, the position assumed by the victim was the result of careful study and produces, even after only a few minutes, strong and painful muscular cramps in the abdomen and rectal areas. Eventually, cramps begin to plague the chest, neck, arms and legs causing more and more pain, especially in the abdomen and rectum.....

Stateless Dictatorships: How a Free Society Prevents ...
http://www.lewrockwell.com/ molyn...molyneux37.html
By far the most common objection to the idea of a stateless society is the belief that one or more private Dispute Resolution Organizations (DROs) would overpower all the others and create a new government. This belief is erroneous at every conceivable level, but has a kind of rugged persistence that is almost admirable.

[vid] Ron Paul on G4 "Attack of the Show" 6/26
http://www.freecentury.com/2007/...f-the-show-626/
Ron Paul interview 6/26/07

Holding America Hostage - Bush Won't Protect Nation Without Amnesty
http://www.infowars.com/ articles...out_amnesty.htm
MSNBC reported today that President Bush's Chief of Staff warned that without amnesty the government would leave the border open. America is being held hostage by a crazed criminal.

Independent Institute's Alvaro Vargas Llosa on Why Ron Paul?
http://independent.org/newsroom/...cle.asp? id=1988
"WASHINGTON —I was dumbfounded last week when three radio stations, one in Spain and two in Latin America, asked me to explain who American presidential hopeful Ron Paul is and why his candidacy in the Republican primaries has generated such a buzz."
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:40 am | #

How to Stop Our Political and Economic Systems From Stealing Our Future
June 26th, 2007 · No Comments
http://dissidentnews.wordpress.c...ing-our-future/
Paul Hawken, author of Blessed Unrest, discusses what he sees as the largest social movement in human history, and why that movement is so invisible to the media — and itself.

“It will be the stroke of midnight for the rest of our lives. It is too late for heroes. We need an accelerated intertwining of the over 1 million nonprofits and 100 million people who daily work for the preservation and restoration of life on earth. …The language of sustainability is about ideas that never end: growth without inequality, wealth without plunder, work without exploitation, a future without fear. A green movement fails unless there’s a black-, brown-, and copper-colored movement, and that can only exist if the movement to change the world touches the needs and suffering of every single person on earth.” –Worldchanging.org 12/26/06
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:29 am | #

SANE -- you continuing ass-wipe of a person: Today here on the East Coast of the United States it is Thursday, 28 June 2007. Why don't you go and try your best to find another meaning in me saying that. Talk about a dumbass -- YOU.

You want to argue different degrees of 'bad' -- well listen up ass-wipe WHEN this bad guy is eventually taken and charged and found guilty for all those many crimes (many of which are dripping 'war' related matters all over them, inside and out) and he is hanged for his crimes. You go and hang him a couple of more times just to make sure he gets what's coming to him. You do that.

Wait, you're the same guy that can't seem to get a handle on understanding that too much good can also be bad. Yet you are quick to follow up with varying degrees of bad. What a joke you are. Go back to bombarding the forum with your endless postings of others thoughts and links // that way at least we don't have to listen to you personally.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:28 am | #

The CIA’s Torture Teachers
http://dissidentnews.wordpress.c...rture-teachers/
Psychologists helped the CIA exploit a secret military program to develop brutal interrogation tactics — likely with the approval of the Bush White House

WASHINGTON — There is growing evidence of high-level coordination between the Central Intelligence Agency and the U.S. military in developing abusive interrogation techniques used on terrorist suspects. After the Sept. 11 attacks, both turned to a small cadre of psychologists linked to the military’s secretive Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape program to “reverse-engineer” techniques originally designed to train U.S. soldiers to resist torture if captured, by exposing them to brutal treatment. The military’s use of SERE training for interrogations in the war on terror was revealed in detail in a recently declassified report. But the CIA’s use of such tactics — working in close coordination with the military — until now has remained largely unknown.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:27 am | #

The SOB needs to be prosecuted and found guilty of anything and everything he has had his dirty hands upon. Anything/everything.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:22 am | #

Cool!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:23 am | #

Okay, let me see a show of hands out there --

Who among this forum (other than SANE of course) actually thinks I was trying to avoid saying KISSINGER was (and is) a bad guy?

For you that might not get my dissatisfaction with this man -- The SOB needs to be prosecuted and found guilty of anything and everything he has had his dirty hands upon. Anything/everything.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:22 am | #

Kissinger - Vietnam - 3 million dead

Kissinger - Cambodia - 2 million dead

Kissinger - Africa - 5 million dead

Kissinger - Iraq - 2 million dead and counting

Kissinger - Bosnia - ???

Kissinger - DU poisoning - over 20 million infected including 1.5 million of our troops

Kissinger - biotech contamination - over 1 billion infected

War Criminal?????

Dude this guy is on a whole other level.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:20 am | #

Face it, ass-wipe, you don't like my artful way of expressing this thought .. plain and simple with you. Post Office wall was stated to indicate a criminal like all the others that need to be brought to justice -- FBI WANTED POSTERS of those wanted for rape, murder, kidnapping, etc., etc. Seemed like a good place for him to be associated with other than the CEO of some international house of pancakes -- criminals ALL on that wall. Get it? Or too complicated a concept for you?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:01 am | #
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Dude, Kissinger is above the FBI and the CIA and Mossad and many other law enforcement agencies. He does not commit one rape, or 100 rapes. He creates an environment where millions get raped slaughtered and retain depleated uranium for 10 generations. You call this an FBI wanted criminal???
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:14 am | #

Worse Than Crimes
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lind/...lind/ lind2.html

Why some war criminals are more equal than others
http://in.rediff.com/news/2007/j...an/ 11rajeev.htm

McCain, Kissinger and America as a Client State
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/t...beat? pid=190304

jbird...go here to see the difference between war criminal and criminal against humanity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Lis...t_of_war_crimes

Since Kissinger gets us into unnecessary wars, it is different than someone who is in war comiting a violation of the Geneva Convention. It is in a category of crimes against humanity (also his support of biochemical/DARPA/RFID/raping of Africa/etc. qualify too. )
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:11 am | #

Starting today tell one person what you believe( one person in the real world). That is how this war will be won.
strgzr | 06.28.07 - 9:10 am | #

Picture Kissinger standing naked before us. What could you feel but pitty for a man with such talent that waisted it for evil ends. We have the power. We only needs use it.
strgzr | 06.28.07 - 9:06 am | #

The House voted themselves a $4,400 cost of living pay raise yesterday, bringing their salaries to almost $170,000.
And what is their approval rating? 20%?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20070...gress_pay_raise
Scanner | 06.28.07 - 9:00 am |
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Thank you Scanner // this is not good information BUT an excellent Post nevertheless.

Those people in Congress just keep making themselves look worse and worse to this country. Their true colors shine brighter each day -- the color of sh*t brown.

They've lost touch with the common man -- something like this just goes to prove it w/o further comment.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:05 am | #

We can put Kissinger right up there on the Post Office wall as yet another war criminal, in my book.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:03 am
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Face it, ass-wipe, you don't like my artful way of expressing this thought .. plain and simple with you. Post Office wall was stated to indicate a criminal like all the others that need to be brought to justice -- FBI WANTED POSTERS of those wanted for rape, murder, kidnapping, etc., etc. Seemed like a good place for him to be associated with other than the CEO of some international house of pancakes -- criminals ALL on that wall. Get it? Or too complicated a concept for you?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:01 am | #

Again, ass-wipe, what part of 'war criminal' are you missing. Yes of course I consider Hitler to be a 'war criminal' -- he was.

Now does he deserve life imprisonment or death by firing squad or hanging or electric chair or lethal injection or or or or --

That's not up to me, a court of law properly convened for such things is how 'war criminals' should be prosecuted/handled. Hitler took the easy way out -- bullet in the head, self-inflicted, after killing his dog (Blondie) and his new wife (married on the 29th of April --dead on the 30th) // What a honeymoon that must have been.

Different degrees of evil, granted -- but all 'war criminals' in summary.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:56 am | #

We can put Kissinger right up there on the Post Office wall as yet another war criminal, in my book.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:03 am |
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And the post office wall???

There should be a thousand person task force dedicated to ensuring that he is confined and that his evil plans [like the false flag nuke for the Iran/Israel war] never see the light of day.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:53 am | #

We can put Kissinger right up there on the Post Office wall as yet another war criminal, in my book.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:03 am |
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What part of 'war criminal' didn't you understand?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:46 am | #

Ollie North is a war criminal, Pol pot is a bigger war criminal. But Kissinger was the man behind the curtain for most war criminals for the past 50 years. Would you call Hitler a war criminal or something a little more powerful?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:49 am | #

Paul Craig Roberts: America is being destroyed
June 26th, 2007 · No Comments
http://dissidentnews.wordpress.c...eing-destroyed/
And to Its Fabled Economy
Goodbye to the City on the Hill
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
“We shall be as a city upon a hill. The eyes of all people are upon us.”
–John Winthrop

America is being destroyed. Many Americans are unaware, others are indifferent, and some intend it.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:48 am | #

The guy doesn't even have a clue regarding constructive criticism // saying -- who's trying to control structure of information now?

What a jerk.

Of course the guy doing the SHOUTING can't see the forest for the trees // He thinks he's doing right in the first place, obviously. Listen to those in those 'billions' of other forum sites -- maybe they figured out the reason for this already. Not asking the jerk, he's too busy trying to save the world for all of us to realize there might possibly be a better way.

But oin the meantime, business as usual, put as much info out there as possible, allow the million and one links available in Google searches to 'bleed' freely into a forum that should be designed for discussion by everyone in attendance -- not basically someone's sounding board, their idea of churning out their own personal newspaper using other's thoughts and comments (link after link after link).

It's really turning me off, folks. Think I'll go check out and see what Alex Jones (one of my heroes) has provided at his news collection point. At least he keeps his news items separated from 'Reader Comments' -- or at least tries. Depends entirely upon what the readers in turn contribute as to their 'comments' of course.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:44 am | #

Wider Sale Is Seen for Toothpaste Tainted in China
By WALT BOGDANICH
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/2...28tooth.html? hp
Roughly 900,000 tubes containing a poison have turned up in hospitals for the mentally ill, prisons and even some hospitals serving the general public.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:43 am | #

Proposal to Implant Tracking Chips in Immigrants
http://www.livescience.com/ techn...rfid_chips.html
Scott Silverman, Chairman of the Board of VeriChip Corporation, has proposed implanting the company's RFID tracking tags in immigrant and guest workers. He made the statement on national television on May 16.

Silverman was being interviewed on "Fox & Friends." Responding to the Bush administration's call to know "who is in our country and why they are here," he proposed using VeriChip RFID implants to register workers at the border, and then verify their identities in the workplace. He added, "We have talked to many people in Washington about using it...."

The VeriChip is a very small Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tag about the size of a large grain of rice. It can be injected directly into the body; a special coating on the casing helps the VeriChip bond with living tissue and stay in place. A special RFID reader broadcasts a signal, and the antenna in the VeriChip draws power from the signal and sends its data. The VeriChip is a passive RFID tag; since it does not require a battery, it has a virtually unlimited life span.

RFID tags have long been used to identify animals in a variety of settings; livestock, laboratory animals and pets have been "chipped" for decades. Privacy advocates have long expressed concerns about this technology being used in human beings.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:40 am | #

We can put Kissinger right up there on the Post Office wall as yet another war criminal, in my book.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:03 am | #

???

The guy is single handedly responsible for almost every coup in the past 50 years. He is the death wizard. He is also responsible for the explosion of deaths in Vietnam and greatly responsible for Iraq and soon Iran.

He is already wanted in various countries for crimes against humanity. He probably is responsible for as many deaths as Hitler. He also likes to rape young boys and engage in ritual klillings as well as ritual mass murders.

The guy eminates evil for miles wherever he goes. You make it out like he is a local thug. He deserves a Nurenberg type expose into his gastly deeds.

Shit jbird, you must know this stuff, why give him such a low level of exposure into his monumental crimes?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:38 am | #

Sane---don't let the nithering naabobs of negativity slow you down or change what you are doing.
Any one got any tangible ideas on how to monkey-wrench things a little?
bill the cat | 06.28.07 - 8:02 am |
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Yeah, Bill, I have a suggestion: Forum Admionistration needs to take people like SANE out of the mainstream forum traffic and have him work them (for all of us actually) in a separate but connected portion of this forum called a library.

Let him and other of like-mind intention build up an extensive library where interested parties can go and research materials that are organized under specific headings -- where we can take the time to link-up and read and the material stays there quite handy when needed for later reference.

But trying to focus and discuss subjects with this conveyor belt of information steadily speeding (coming and going) and a majority of it being nothing more than disjointed and confused materials -- is a waste of his time -- and the forum could do better if his efforts were properly utilized. A library, a reference place with link after link -- kept forever, updated accordingly.

It's like trying to discuss matters with this guy now SHOUTING over the necessary quiet (study time to come and understand) read this, look here, more, more, more.

Understand?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:12 am | #
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Awww jbird, who is trying to control the structure of information now???

Start a blog...

Add a library section....

And I will contribute.

Trying to rearrange the entire structure of this freeflow of truth is ridiculous.

There are a billion websites that do what you are proposing. This is the only blog that allows for so much truth to be posted 24/7 with the only controls being committed truthers.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:26 am | #

I heard that major supermarkets like Albertsons, Safeway, Von's and others are seriously considering doing away with cash at the checkout counter; their info tracking card becomes an inhouse credit card.
bill the cat | 06.28.07 - 8:05 am | #
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They will start with discounting and fast tracking customers who comply. More here:

Neil Cowburn - RFID: A solution to supermarket queues?Some supermarkets have introduced what they call 'Scan & Pack'. This is where the cashier will scan and then pack the items themselves. ...
http://blog.opennetcf.org/ ncowbu...rketQueues.aspx
Declan McCullagh, Confidentially Yours, The Difference between ...So far, no retailer appears to be sticking RFID tags on products, though WalMart .... Instead, supermarket managers use the cards to evaluate the effects of ...
http://www.econlib.org/library/ C...ghsnooping.html
Complexes: RFID @ homeNo more queues! Like with barcodes, the shops can use RFID tags to track ... would save loads of time for people who don't like to waste it in supermarkets. ...
http://complexes.blogspot.com/20.../rfid- home.html
METRO Group will roll out Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) across ... is no bar code on the item, or additional money is needed in the cashier desk. ...
http://download.microsoft.com/ do...Study_final.doc
Supermarket Discount Cards'Loyalty cards' mean no privacy in store. Cashiers at supermarkets .... All the material about Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) technology has been ...
http://www.akdart.com/priv6.html
Global Logistics & Supply Chain Strategies is read by over 40000 ...That’s when the conglomerate turned one of its Extra supermarkets into the ... CDs, DVDs and videos, among other products, use RFID tags with I-Code ...
http://www.glscs.com/archives/02...d.htm? adcode=10
RFID Viruses and WormsMany supermarkets have plans in this direction because RFID scans are faster ... can be done by the customers, eliminating the expense of having cashiers). ...
http://www.rfidvirus.org/
Hence, we hope to incorporate the use of RFID (the technology which is used in the smart .... of the Smart Shopping system, there is no need for a cashier. ...
http://www.research.smu.edu.sg/ f...rt.Shopping.doc
Slashdot | Gillette Buys Half a Billion RFID TagsIt is funded by large companies who want to use RFID to track goods and who ..... You leave. No cashier to deal with. No lines. No need to even remove the ...
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?s...=thread& tid=126
RFIDetail"Paints a 1984-ish picture of how corporations would like to use RFID ... A member of the Senate Banking Committee denounced RFID "no-swipe" ...
http://go.rfidetail.com/section/...n/RFID%20R.O.I/
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They are also implanting the chips into drunk patrons at discos for MK Ultra studies that release mood altering drugs into the participants' bodies. This is to study the effects of releasing the different moods [sexual, numb, anger, exitement, etc.] onto other moods. This allows them to get a surveillance view of the "live" project with the Club's surveillance systems. These broadcasts are made available for the head of the projects worldwide. They also can track you for years after you leave the club to assist in seeing how the release of chemicals effect you later on. Many times 2 chips are placed in so that if the subject "sobers up" and has one removed, they will not know about the second one.

Baja Beach Club in Barcelona, Spain Launches Microchip ..."We are the only company today offering human implantable ID technology," said Scott ... The Baja Beach Club disco/bar ( in the Olympic port, a great night ...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...jabeachclub.htm
SAITS news February 2007Do you still have a bit of that 1970s disco strut left? Look around - You might not be the ..... Patients, doctors staying away from implantable RFID chips ...
http://www.sics.se/privacy/news-...ive/2007/ 2.html
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:22 am | #

Time to kick those incompetent evil leaders out of office.

Empeachment time people.They have harmed humanity and do not deserve to be leaders. The senators who are afraid of standing for the rights and the constitution of America, step aside also.
We need people with spines and good social moral values not people afraid of Bush and his criminal friends.

Peace to all good humans and lests unite our thoughts to change this world for a better one.

Consciousness social consciousness will help us free us all from this tirant government who is above the Universal laws.They have gone too far and must be set aside replaced by the right kind of people like Ron Paul to name one.
Bill | 06.28.07 - 8:15 am | #

Sane--i go to quite a few of your links and appreciate them very much. You do post alot of info and I think that is excellent, just can't figure how you do it so fast.
No matter---knowledge is power and truth is freedom.
bill the cat | 06.28.07 - 8:10 am | #

Sane---don't let the nithering naabobs of negativity slow you down or change what you are doing.
Any one got any tangible ideas on how to monkey-wrench things a little?
bill the cat | 06.28.07 - 8:02 am | #

If you have seen me over the past few months you know this hardly stops me...but I am human and your comment helps a lot. Thanks!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:07 am | #

sane it's not that I don't appreciate the many links you put up, I just think the topic many times gets lost in the blizzard of stuff you post. Then too 1/2 my bookmarks came from you. So I guess I don't realy know if I would rather, you slowed down or kept up your usual pace. .... Keep up the pace.
strgzr | 06.28.07 - 7:54 am | #
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I ain't frickin Einstein and have only been posting for 3 months. I am abrasive and a prick. I freely admit to this. But I try to learn from others that try to point me to truth. Shit look at the fricken blitzkreig when I put down Michael T on this thread-but it had me look into is again and that is where I came up with 20 new ebooks that I posted this morning.

I also feel it is very important to out the agents. They cause more distractions than I ever could. They must be identified every time when we see them. They are truly the cancer on free speech and they have been very successful in getting controls set on 99% of the boards out there.

Shit Steve W even replied to one of those fuckers yesterday [maybe 2 days ago]. Why the fuck should he have to be distracted with that shit when we can easily out these COINTELPRO type agents. Don't you think that is the least we can do?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:04 am | #

To CHRIS JONES -- Yes, I agree with what you said. The military is and always has been a politically controlled machine. Robots, following orders --

And then that incident happened we both know about where good American soldiers following orders just simply up and killed innocent women and children and old men // because they were told by their good Captain that these were the enemy. Terrible thing, being a robot and not able to think for oneself.

Believe there was something in the news recently (GEN PACE -- who I truly don't think made the best Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and neither did GEN MEYERS) --

Where we were reminded that it is a soldier's responsibility to follow orders but only lawful orders. Well, that can become quite confused as to what is and is not lawful. Has even come up a time or two recently in Iraq when guards shot their prisoners in the back after first turning them loose; and that stuff about the prisons.

You mentioned Henry Kissinger -- another guy I've never liked. Hard to understand that voice of his for one thing. The day of 9/11, minutes after the first tower fell down, he was on CNN preaching to the world that this was another Pearl Harbor and how the United States should go get the bad guys. And anyone that has come to understand what that means (Pearl Harbor) understands false flag operations. This guy is an obvious spokes-person for the official story // the 9/11 family members recognized him for that when GWB finally agreed to looking into the happenings of 9/11 and appointed Kissinger as Chairman of the 9/11 Commission. Short of being dragged out into the light of day, he declined the appointment. We can put Kissinger right up there on the Post Office wall as yet another war criminal, in my book.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:03 am | #

EU Warns Bulgaria and Romania on Corruption
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,491087,00.html
The European Commission has told Bulgaria and Romania they are not doing enough to tackle judicial reform and corruption. But the European Union's newest member states have avoided sanctions from Brussels -- for now

Swedish Sex Offender Allowed to Have Porn
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490946,00.html
Sweden is a land known for cheap furniture, meatballs, blonde women and, well, porn. In fact, it seems porn is such a national institution that it can't even be denied to the nation's sex offenders.

Russian Agents Plot to Steal German Military Technology
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490759,00.html
Russian intelligence agents have recently been trying to steal German military technology with an intensity unknown since the end of the Cold War. But the spies who have been arrested so far have got off scot-free -- thanks to their diplomatic immunity.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:57 am | #

"The lack of controls actually gives this board power." you are right.
strgzr | 06.28.07 - 7:56 am | #

Search where the search takes me -- not where you want me to go, but go where I choose based upon time to absorb some of the massive data that exists out there.-jbird

How the heck am I stopping you from anything, how the heck is this threatening?

You sre totally right, anyone here can do what I am doing. But for some reason, they don't.

So, I do.

If you truly believe that my postings "lead people" to a self righteous ego trip, then prove it by doing the same and leading me to your places.

I think you are totally misinterpreting my issue of this being total free speech.

You wish it to have controls like other boards.

The lack of controls actually gives this board power.

How can you not see this?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:51 am | #

jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 7:44 am | # I agree
strgzr | 06.28.07 - 7:49 am | #

Your post are similar to sitting in front of the television set watching CNN, trying to watch and listen all the while trying to keep up with that little scroll bar that creeps across the bottom of the screen. Before anyone can fully absorb the subject -- it's off to the next topic. Things of importance get lost like that -- ass-wipe.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 7:44 am | #
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I respect your opinion(s). I just do not agree with it (most of them).
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:46 am | #

SANE -- you're insane.

I came to understand that 9/11 was an inside job waaaay before ever encountering your self-appointed 'teacher' of the class approach // your long listings of links (yes some do have merit, no question about that, individually) but mostly serve NOT to WAKE UP but more so to put some of us even further asleep -- they go on and on and on -- without interruption -- at times, one after the other.

Any comments forum members make are oftentimes lost (sandwiched) between your lengthy cut-and-paste jobs.

I don't need your listings; I've come to know 'things' without you and your efforts --

You most likely have no concept of how something like that is even possible, do you. Without you there to tell me where I should go and what I should read. Well, it is possible without you. Your self-appointed 'teacher' approach is super boring and lengthy, but mostly without benefit of human exchange (there's no way to comment other than jump into the speeding lane, and then, any comment made quickly falls off the screen before more of your on-going bombardment happens without let up again) so much in fact that I personally avoid reading or 'clicking' on much of anything you provide.

You monopolize the forum,be it intentional or otherwise. And I believe it more intentional // which makes me wonder why that is????

You're not really doing anything that couldn't be done by any one of us. BUT you at the same time are providing so much info I would bet to guess the average person just skips over it all and really doesn't benefit from it.

There's a million-times MORE information available than even what you dish out, simple matter of conducting Google searches on our own. That works fine. That's how I learned. And exchanging comments with fellow forum members that had put their individual thoughts on the screen. You had nothing to do with that, ass-wipe, and thank goodness for that or I most likely wouldn't know a damn thing as to 9/11.

Search where the search takes me -- not where you want me to go, but go where I choose based upon time to absorb some of the massive data that exists out there.

You do serve one good purpose: You've proven there are tons of info 'links' available. You sure capture a lot of it -- But who is it that asked you to do this for them?

Your post are similar to sitting in front of the television set watching CNN, trying to watch and listen all the while trying to keep up with that little scroll bar that creeps across the bottom of the screen. Before anyone can fully absorb the subject -- it's off to the next topic. Things of importance get lost like that -- ass-wipe.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 7:44 am | #

Feingold Speaks
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...eingold-speaks/
It has been more than a year and a half since it was first disclosed that the President authorized an illegal warrantless wiretapping program. After a year and a half of stonewalling by the Administration, the Judiciary Committee is finally taking appropriate action by issuing subpoenas for inform ation that will tell us how and why high-ranking officials authorized this illegal program. The bipartisan support for issuing these subpoenas demonstrates that both Democrats and Republicans are fed up with the misleading st atements from the Attorney General and the Administration about this illegal program.

” Though most members of the Committee have been kept in the dark about the program, the Administr ation has asked us to overhaul the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. It would be wrong for this committee to even consider legislation making wholesale changes to the FISA statute without access to information about how the executive branch and the judicial branch interpret th at law. These subpoenas will help make sure that Congress finally starts getting the answers it deserves.”
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:44 am | #

CREW just released a new blockbuster report: The Best Laid Plans: The Story of How the Government Ignored Its Own Gulf Coast Hurricane Plans.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...id-plans-arent/
Best Laid Plans details the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) plan to respond to a hurricane of Katrina’s magnitude and, very importantly, FEMA’s subsequent failure to implement that plan. The full report can be found here.

Shortly after Katrina struck, on September 7, 2005, CREW sent a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), of which FEMA is a component, seeking records related to the federal government’s long-term planning for a hurricane on the Gulf Coast as well as its immediate preparations for and response to Hurricane Katrina.

The Best Laid Plans is based on the 7,500 records DHS provided in response. What we found is disturbing — and dangerous.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:42 am | #

Criminal Corruption Investigation Opened Over Arms Dealer
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...er-arms-dealer/
The US Department of Justice is preparing to open a corruption investigation into the arms company BAE, the Guardian has learned. It would cover the alleged £1bn arms deal payments to Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia.

Washington sources familiar with the thinking of senior officials at the justice department said yesterday it was “99% certain” that a criminal inquiry would be opened under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA). Such an investigation would have potentially seismic consequences for BAE, which is trying to take over US arms companies and make the Pentagon its biggest customer.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:41 am | #

Thank you for your patience. Should you experience any problems with my web CONTACT FORM, please call my office at 202-224-3353 and my staff will be happy to guide you through the electronic correspondence process. Sincerely, George V. Voinovich United States Senator
clearly starts off with a threat
Anonymous | 06.28.07 - 7:36 am | #
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It so completely sucks ass that they do not represent the people in any way shape or form.

I posted the entire Declaration of Independence here:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=47340#101640
The parallels are frightening.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:38 am | #

Miniature sensor replicates human touch
http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/...es-human-touch/
A group of researchers have created a millimeter sized sensor that is capable of recreating a number of our tactile abilities, such as force and position of contact, softness of a grasped object, and slippage. The technology -- which utilizes polystyrene beams that bend when put in contact with a soft surface -- might be able to assist doctors in performing minimally invasive surgery (or MIS) by adding additional force-feedback information from the subject (up until now, surgeons have had to rely heavily on visual data transmitted from an endoscope). The tiny sensors could be micromachined (a type of integrated circuit manufacture), and would thus be simple and cost effective to fabricate for medical uses. The next stages will be further miniaturization, integration with MIS tools, and animal tissue testing.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:36 am | #

i have been signing petitions on line here is what i get from Correspondence from Senator Voinovich Thank you for contacting my office. I genuinely appreciate your e-mail and thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. As with all communications with my office, your views have been recorded.

Every day, I hear from the people of Ohio through their phone calls, letters and faxes to my office. As you can imagine, I also receive a significant number of e-mails daily. Mass-generated e-mails sent by a third-party group, which are usually form text, have hindered my ability to respond to the e-mails, phone calls, letters and faxes that I receive. Due to the increasing number of mass-generated e-mails received by my office, effective March 16, 2007, my office will be implementing changes to the constituent correspondence process.

Consequently, I have established a new system on my website to better serve Ohio constituents. If you would like a written response to your e-mail, please go to http://voinovich.senate.gov and click on the CONTACT tab to fill out the web CONTACT FORM. By filling out this form, you will receive a written response from my office.

Thank you for your patience. Should you experience any problems with my web CONTACT FORM, please call my office at 202-224-3353 and my staff will be happy to guide you through the electronic correspondence process.

Sincerely,

George V. Voinovich
United States Senator

clearly starts off with a threat
Anonymous | 06.28.07 - 7:36 am | #

I think it was based upon people that were working from inside (like VP Cheney is today and was then as well -- with all his connections) who really could give a good g-damn about our military.
Sir.
The military, is and allways has been a controlled machine, politicaly operated. The miliitary does not run the military, please, the politicians run it.
You were in Vietnam during the year of the dog, so was I. Fact, I detest what we did to those human beings from the bottom of my soul.
The pols dont, nor do their cohorts who profited.
Kissinger claimed the military was nothing but dumb animals. Why, becasue they did wahtever the pols told them to do no matter what, no questions, nor moral courage, no concience on the part of the big dog 4 stars.
The military did not defend Amerca,democracy or God and country, it made trillions for the Elite
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 7:34 am | #

Blubber Bots, or ALAVs (Autonomous Lighter than Air Vehicles) just want to party with you, and maybe eat a little something while they're at it. These helium filled fliers contain SunSPOT CPUs, which control the bots and allow them to respond to various stimuli such as movement, sound, light and heat. The floating blobs are also able to interact via "conversations" with cell phone signals, follow "food", and can bellow to one another using high frequency vibration.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/...d-make-friends/
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:34 am | #

Murdoch Says Everything Is "Done," Just Waiting For Bancroft's Final Approval
http://www.reuters.com/article/ t...777137620070627
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:21 am | #

Segments, fractions,sects, etc. Of many a nation were involved in the takedown of America, and crimes against humanity.
Nail one an all of them, but please begin in our house first. My point again is vaporized, how about we get America back together, then weed out the other bloodsuckers as we go along.
The blame, if we can call it that, starts right here in this country. If at all possible America could clean house, we could then round up inprison or lynch those who colaborated with our criminal regime.To include the Elected officials who hide behind their office. Identify and incarcerate any and all people how profited from the death of civilians, who disobeyed the constitution, who disregarded our bill of rights, and put themselves above the law of the land. I am certain if this could be accomplished we could then hunt down each and every bloodsuker who profited from our misery and that of millions of civilians killed. Possibly even freeze the fortunes and put America back on board as a funtioning industrial nation. our old values did not die, they just got shiit on by this mob of Elite, parrasitic criminals.
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 7:19 am | #

At Least 25 Iraqis Killed in Car Bombing
Carnage at Bus Stop in Sunni Neighborhood of Baghdad

http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index..._in_Car_Bombing
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:18 am | #

you an ass-wipe.

You are.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 7:08 am | #

I cannot argue with that, I can be a serious ass-wipe. I expanded my quick ass-wipe comment. Hope you find it less ass-wipish.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:15 am | #

And I mean no offense by this - fuck off.

smile
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:58 am |
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I'm sure you must. You're an ass-wipe, without a doubt. Comments like you just made to me speak clearly NOW as to your constant bombardment of info. Folks reading this need to see you for what you truly are -- a person whose place (early in the day and day long) is to put so very much information on the screen that simple conversations between forum members become difficult and lost. There's no better way to explain YOU other than to call you an ass-wipe.

You are.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 7:08 am | #

I mean shit jbird if you spent 1/10th the energy reading as I do posting, you would see what truths and info is being posted by me. You would also see that it is important to out the agents every time all the time. This ain't candyland. There is an info-civil-war going on in this country and they are spending over $100 million with over 10K agents to stop it from gaining even more momentum. WTF. You keep talking about how hard it is to search through posts, are you for real? I read every post all the time and still try to do my part in this patriotic battle. You keep talking about how scarce the blog is and keep shifting this to a scarcity issue because that is what we are made to believe cradle to grave...

Energy

Water

soon air and food

There ain't no frickin scarcity of those items just as there is no scarcity of storage for 0's and 1's in theserver for this blog.

Really man, stop whining about having to look through posts it insults both of our intelligence levels and makes me think you are promoting a couch potato approach to this whole info-war that will require much more energy than you seem willing to give.

So that was my meaning in the below shorter post and it ain't personal, I would reply the same way to anyone attempting to limit free speech.

The agents whole agenda is to put controls on this board, like 99% of the others. The main point of those controls is limiting free speech. Here the agents regularly bash AJ, RP, or connect them to all sorts of lies.

But the truth becomes the greatest for of control and they are easily seen as agents.

This truly is a free speech board and that makes it one of the most powerful weapons against the NWO plans.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:08 am | #

(quote) The only reason their is no draft at this moment is simply becasue America ...
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I think it was based upon people that were working from inside (like VP Cheney is today and was then as well -- with all his connections) who really could give a good g-damn about our military.

Let's not forget that Mr. 'Dick' Cheney received FIVE (5) DEFERMENTS from military service right smack in the middle of the Vietnam era. Of course he wasn't alone // most in our Congress today have no military background to speak of. A few exceptions // and those let you know of it at every chance they get -- McCain, Warner, a limited number of others --

I spent 26 years active duty and was a volunteer for Vietnam (served 16 months in country) back in 1966-67. I come from a poor family and couldn't afford college at the time, and volunteered for the military at age 17 because home life was so horrible for me. The military life was a good life, in the overall. I feel sorry as can be for today's soldiers with today's leaders (the civilians really in charge) // buy my point is getting lost here // those in charge really don't care about the military. If they did -- they'd never have sent them to an unjust war and then refuse to bring them home. Simple.

My rant.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 7:04 am | #

But now, as I ask, based upon your remarks to me -- please explain. You seem to indicate me also doing the same as you two guys. Don't think so. I engage in no truly useless back and forth exchanges of name calling -- other than a remark (short and to the point) as it were in suggesting you not bombard this forum with your shotgun approach to information over-load. Somewhere in all that I even indicated I meant you no offense.

I am sure you mean well, your information links are outstanding. But forum friend you do not give anyone suitable time to comment and/or exchange thought without launching yet another attack (probably not the right word, sorry). Relax, breathe deeply, exchange thought and stop standing in front of the room and reading today's lesson so damn fast that we have trouble keeping up with you. Smile.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 6:54 am | #
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And I mean no offense by this - fuck off.

smile
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:58 am | #

Corpus Hermeticum
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6668/C...rpus- Hermeticum

Daniel Cohen - Great Conspiracies and Elaborate Cover Ups
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6679/D...orate-Cover- Ups

Daniken, Erich Von - The Gold of the Gods
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6685/D...old-of-the- Gods
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:56 am | #

Okay, I'll give you that as a possibility -- but you my forum well-intentioned friend play right along with him in the exchange of 'clutter' // I suppose it is something easily to do if called out and belittled as I have seen but still -- your replies take on a refection of similar content when you strike back at him. Anyone believing that Jews (an entire population) is responsible speaks of their own limitations in understanding. We with some degree of common sense have come to understand that. Bait and tackle, that's all it is.

But now, as I ask, based upon your remarks to me -- please explain. You seem to indicate me also doing the same as you two guys. Don't think so. I engage in no truly useless back and forth exchanges of name calling -- other than a remark (short and to the point) as it were in suggesting you not bombard this forum with your shotgun approach to information over-load. Somewhere in all that I even indicated I meant you no offense.

I am sure you mean well, your information links are outstanding. But forum friend you do not give anyone suitable time to comment and/or exchange thought without launching yet another attack (probably not the right word, sorry). Relax, breathe deeply, exchange thought and stop standing in front of the room and reading today's lesson so damn fast that we have trouble keeping up with you. Smile.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 6:54 am | #

Involvment.
Since when has the average J.Q citizen been ivolved in Goverment decisions, or asked for a opinion.
Going back a while, say the 60's, did the Government ask the youngsters who went to Vietnam if they wanted to go. Or, did they say, *drafted* go now, or prison.
Did the ol Gov ask you if you wanted your taxes raised.
Or, did they tell they were raised, we tell you what to do, and watch out if you didn't.
I can ramble so I'll keep it short.The only reason their is no draft at this moment is simply becasue America knew Vietnam was money maker for the Elite and the MIC. The people went to the street and rallied against their abomination. Kids with intelligence abd concience left their homes and country because they knew it was a scam for the rich.( They didnt want to be killed nor did they want to killl for the rich)
Now they have a volunteer system, and you can bet the troops are realy screwed.
Ok, made a point, maby, maby not,. Lobyists seem to get attention, for votes that is. Average Joe Peon get attention, i dont think so. In fact, what they get is, do as we say, pay you taxes, and dont ever talk against the ol Gov.And beleive everything the government says and does is for God and country.
This is America, yup.
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 6:54 am | #

Secret rituals fucking exposed:
The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn
http://www.scribd.com/doc/94658/...deptus-Minor- 56

WTF is wrong with these fucking people??????

Eyes wide shut did not even scratch the surface
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:50 am | #

Hey jbird - the agents need to be exposed. If you truly are concerned with extra posts that add to the distraction, then why do you do it
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:35 am |
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Please explain.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 6:38 am | #
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Rich is an agent attempting to connect RP to anti-semitism. If you think this is one poster having a name calling fight with another, you should read most of the 33rd thread. He is an agent probably for one of the top tier candidates attempting to do a "Death to Smoochy" move with RP and he needs to be exposed.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:46 am | #

According to this info we in the UK don't have a tax law either????

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/ boar...ghlight=pay+tax
Rob O'Loughlin | 06.28.07 - 6:32 am |
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I think we have a lot more in common than language. I believe that the two governments are working hand-in-hand in corruption and control -- have been and will continue to be. Until both our peoples wake up and do something about it. I'm afraid to say that the same forces working to confuse you guys is the same forces we have here as well // all reading off the same sheet of instructions. 7/7 is pretty much a mirror of 9/11 in all so many ways.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 6:37 am | #

What benefit (other than adding even more verbage to the screen) does such exchanges offer? Nothing. Calling each other names // Nazi, Jew Hater, etc., etc -- let's not forget who the true enemy is here okay. Not us (not unless you're part of the intentional PsyOps plan to confuse, redirect, misinform, etc., that is) // focus.

Thanks.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 6:33 am | #

Hey jbird - the agents need to be exposed. If you truly are concerned with extra posts that add to the distraction, then why do you do it
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:35 am | #

My dog is innovative than you.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 6:30 am | #

Like I said, it is like you are not even trying anymore. You used to at least have a semblance of rationality. Oh well, at least you stopped using 10 fake nicks. I suppose that is an improvement- oh yeah here is your emote
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:34 am | #

Okay you two guys, making this personal and exchanging all those cute but idiotic comments back and forth (sock puppet, indeed) only serve to clutter this forum even more.

What benefit (other than adding even more verbage to the screen) does such exchanges offer? Nothing. Calling each other names // Nazi, Jew Hater, etc., etc -- let's not forget who the true enemy is here okay. Not us (not unless you're part of the intentional PsyOps plan to confuse, redirect, misinform, etc., that is) // focus.

Thanks.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 6:33 am | #

According to this info we in the UK don't have a tax law either????

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/ boar...ghlight=pay+tax
Rob O'Loughlin | 06.28.07 - 6:32 am | #

Cleckley, Harvey - Mask Of Sanity
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6646/C...-Mask-Of- Sanity
Hervey Cleckley, M.D. Clinical Professor of Psychiatry, Medical College of Georgia, Augusta, Ga.; author of The Caricature of Love and of The Three Faces of Eve (with Corbett H. Thigpen)
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:32 am | #

I'm not trying anymore; you're an idiot. Your last post is the total perfect example of you..

C'mon dude, at least form complete sentences. geez it is like you are not even trying anymore.

Respond to nothing.
Answer nothiong.
Comment to nothing.
Make no point.
Have no point.

Just fill in space with yet another of your spam.

You have been offered DOZENS of issues.. you miserably failed to tackle any of them.

Like you will do again now. You will make some dickless reference, weblinks, and commentary, that contain no answers, refering back to answers you never made before. You will spam away pages of bullshit that are ENTIRELY OFF TOPIC.

How many times did you fall flat on your face in failure about your beloved topic of Cheney? About 5 times now.

You even admitted to me, that YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT CHENEY SAYS about his own political, religious, and global affiliations. That - THE ACTUAL FACTS OF THE MAN, were IRRELEVANT TO YOU, because, in your fantasy, you already manufactured all known facts. When the 'nazi illuminati world' intrudes into your fantasies, it is all lies.

In the REAL WORLD... Cheney has spent his ENTIRE LIFE.. in the think tanks, business and political relationships of the ISRAELIS. And from him DEVOTING HIS LIFE TO THE NEEDS OF ISRAEL.. you concluded he is a 'nazi with death camps'.

Then, after declaring that ONLY JEWS ARE NOT IN THE ILLUMINATI, but CHENY IS, you are asked... why do the Jews who DONT WORK FOR THE ILLUMINATI all WORKING WITH CHENEY THE ILLUMINATI? You are such a bumbling amateur, you cant even keep your own fantasies in order.

The reality is, we have MOUNTAINS OF REAL WORLD FACTS AND PROOF THAT CHENEY IS A ZIONIST.. what is your word for real world hard facts... 'alien undead Nazi illumiati mindcontrol lies?"

And when asked for REAL WORLD FACTUAL PROOF that Cheney is actually a death camp building anti-semite Nazi.... you... trail off in spam and lunatic babble.

It IS a great honor for you to have someone like me even notice you. I can write; I can form arguments. I can take you limb from limb each time you open your mouth. You in turn... plod there like an idiot...... to finally type something like...

C'mon dude, at least form complete sentences. geez it is like you are not even trying anymore.

then copy and paste a bunch of bullshit and add an emote.

My dog is innovative than you.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 6:30 am | #

Make a female sockpuppet name, Sane, then you can... well, you know. I like the emotes. Suits you so perfectly. What is my official title as a billionaire Illuminati overlord? Call me by that from now on. Let everyone know you exposed me as a black bishop of the global elite.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 6:14 am | #
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C'mon dude, at least form complete sentences. geez it is like you are not even trying anymore.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:18 am | #

Pleases, PLEASE HELP STOP THIS HORRORIBLE IMMIGRATION BILL AND NOW! Please tell others about how bad it is, instead of posting here all day? Please, time is running out! I am begging you, if you love America to do everything in your power to STOP these treasonous bastards and NOW! Please?
9-11 truther | 06.28.07 - 6:07 am
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Here's something of related interest:

Watching C-SPAN over the past months, I have come to recognize certain Senators that obviously support GWB and his idiotic direction for this country // One such Senator is Senator Sessions, from Alabama.

But boy am I confused. The last couple of days this guy has been begging his fellow Senators to WAKE UP and come to see this Immigration Bill for what it truly is -- He seems sincere in explaining that the quick fix is nothing more than this country moving quickly in the wrong direction. He acknowledges that the 12 million illegal immigrants is more closely akin to 20-25 million. He acknowledges that the low wages being paid to our working poor is because of the low wages being paid to illegal immigrants to do jobs that used to be paid more to American citizens for the same work, same hours, etc. This guy is pleading that his fellow Senators READ the bill and come to discover that it is not a workable plan // that the same will not stabalize and/or improve our borders but will surely errode them even more so. He calls it like it is -- a free pass to illegal aliens to bring their family members // wives, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, in-laws, etc, etc. This guy seems to have WAKEN from his own sleep as regards this poorly devised plan and is recruiting others to wake also. It's either that or he is worried about reelection coming soon.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 6:18 am | #

Thomas More - Utopia
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11613/...mas-More- Utopia
15th century English Author who was very involved in the politics of the time.

Project Gutenberg, the house that Jill Built
http://www.scribd.com/doc/70389/15678
Written in 1892

Reich, Wilhelm - The Mass Psychology of Fascism
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6859/R...logy-of- Fascism
THE MASS PSYCHOLOGY OF FASCISM By WILHELM REICH English translation by THEODORE P. WOLFE

Redfield, James - The Celestine Prophecy
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6858/R...estine- Prophecy
THE CELESTINE PROPHECY An Adventure JAMES REDFIELD A Time Warner Company For Sarah Virginia Refield ˜™ And those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of Heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. But for you, Daniel, these words and seal up the book until the end of time. Many will go back and forth...

Reade, Winwood - The Veil of Isis
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6857/R...he-Veil-of- Isis
THE THE VEIL OF ISIS; OR, MYSTERIES OF THE DRUIDS BY W. WINWOOD READE. (1861) "By the bright circle of the golden sun, By the bright courses of the errant moon, By the dread potency of every star, In the mysterious Zodiac's burning girth, By each and all of these supernal signs, We do adjure thee, with this trusty blade To guard yon central oak, whose holy stem, Involves the spirit ...

Ramacharaka - Science Of Breath
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6856/R...ience-Of- Breath
Page: 1 THE HINDU-YOGI SCIENCE OF BREATH By YOGI RAMACHARAKA THE HINDU-YOGI SCIENCE OF BREATH By YOGI R A M A C H A R A K A Author of "Yogi Philosophy and Oriental Occultism", "Advanced Course in Yogi Philosophy", "Hatha Yogi", "Psychic Healing", etc. Copyright 1903 (Expired) If you enjoy this book please pass it on to as many people as you possibly can. Digital Version 1.00 b...

Ra Material - The Law of One - Books I to V
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6855/R...ne-Books-I-to- V
The Law Of One: Book I THE RA MATERIAL By Ra, An Humble Messenger Of The Law Of One Copyright © 1984 by James Allen McCarty, Don Elkins, and Carla Rueckert All rights reserved. No part of this work may be reproduced or used in any forms or by any means—graphic, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying or information storage and retrieval systems—without written permission from the c...

Pernety - A Treatise On The Great Art
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6841/P...n-The-Great- Art
The Great Art page 2 A TREATISE ON The Great Art A SYSTEM OF PHYSICS ACCORDING TO HERMETIC PHILOSOPHY AND THEORY AND PRACTICE OF THE MAGISTERIUM. BY Dom ANTOINE-JOSEPH PERNETY, Benedictine Monk of the Congregation of Saint-Maur, Abbot of Burgel in Thuringe, Librarian of Frederick the Great, king of Prussia, etc. EDITED BY EDOUARD BLITZ, M. D., Doctor In Kabbalah, Doctor ...

Pepin, Jerry - Handbook of the Navigator
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6840/P...f-the- Navigator
THE HANDBOOK OF THE NAVIGATOR THE HANDBOOK OF THE NAVIGATOR By Eric J. Pepin Edited by Christopher E. Robison

Pease, Allan - Body Language
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6838/P...n-Body- Language
BODY LANGUAGE How to read others’ thoughts by their gestures ALLAN PEASE is the managing director of a management consultancy company based in Sydney, Australia. He produces books, films, and cassettes that are used by numerous organisations around the world to train personnel in communication skills. He did ten years’ study, interviewing and research before writing BODY LANGUAGE. Over...

ODonnell, Gerald - Remote Influencing
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6836/O...ote- Influencing
The Academy of Remote Viewing Proudly presents Remote Influencing Thought and Reality Out of The Matrix The Key to The ONE 1 Remote Influencing Thought and Reality Course Welcome to the Academy of Remote Viewing's newest course: Remote Influencing Thought and Reality. With this course, you will learn the remote influence thought and through it create your reality. We are about ...
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:17 am | #

when you masturbate tonight, there is some demented fantasy to fuel your fires.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 6:07 am | #
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Thanks-I always like a good visual
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:11 am | #

Good intentions. Good information. Good sense of humor.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 6:08 am | #

Sane, you lost every argument we ever had. Your ONLY GOAL, is to frustrate people and waste their time. I will never follow one of your weblinks. I will never sift through your.. what is it.. about 1,300 posts a day of spam.. searching through all your drivel for answers that are not there. Why would anyone waste their time.

You argued that 'Jews are not running the media' then, when FORCED BY ME to look, you finally admitted, oh, they do have more control than ANY OTHER group. Blacks for example - HAVE NO CONTROL.

Then you blathered on how Cheney was a 'Nazi'. Then, his STAGGERING HISTORY AS A ZIONIST was slapped into your face, so you fell apart, ranted and babbled.

Most importantly Sane, there is no reason to hurry, in any sense. YOU ARE NOT GOING ANY WHERE. You will be RIGHT HERE, any moment of any day. When I want to slap you around, you will be available, spamming your nonsense, and having 'relationships with yourself' through your MANY OTHER POSTING NAMES YOU USE.

SANE = Well Known Planted Spammer DISINFO TURD - doing a VERY BAD JOB - since everyone knows you as THAT.

Let's not forget Sane, as you pointed out, I am a 33rd level Illuminati Mason overload, with control over all nations and people... err. did I say all..???? Well, as YOU POINTED OUT... ONLY JEWS.. ONLY ISRAEL... are too SUPERIOR to be controlled by the Illuminati. But I do control all the lower, inferior, filth from birth, animal, gentile races and peoples, and governments. So... when you masturbate tonight, there is some demented fantasy to fuel your fires.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 6:07 am | #

I guess one way to find that 'needle' is to take off your shoes and jump in that haystack with barefeet // it's bound to find YOU.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 6:01 am | #
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You are more than welcome to slam dance barefoot on the haystacks I am creating
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:03 am | #

Good intentions. Good information.

-- But too much good, is bad.

It's like trying to find a needle in the haystack (as in looking for that one important bit of information BUT it becomes hidden in plain sight because of all extra that surrounds it.....)

I said I wouldn't comment on this again but looks like I can't keep a promise. It's good, it's bad -- all at the same time.

I guess one way to find that 'needle' is to take off your shoes and jump in that haystack with barefeet // it's bound to find YOU.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 6:01 am | #

Cant win a debate cany answer a question, you know when he lost cause he spams like mad. He read this the moment it landed, cause it's his only job to spam Alex Jones.. spammity spam,, ZIONAZI SPAM
Rich | 06.28.07 - 5:50 am | #
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I answered the question...CATCH UP
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 5:52 am | #

SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, 24hr 7-day a week disinfo spam SANE!

SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM...

Cant win a debate cany answer a question, you know when he lost cause he spams like mad. He read this the moment it landed, cause it's his only job to spam Alex Jones.. spammity spam,, ZIONAZI SPAM
Rich | 06.28.07 - 5:50 am | #

What government wouldn't want the ability to tranquilize a entire city during a Riot, or better yet keep all of its citizens content or happy by continually feeding them prerecorded emotions! (quote) Imagine how small Police Forces might become if we could be controlled in this manner. Imagine how thrilled tyrants like Adolf Hitler , Josef Stalin, or Saddam Hussein would have been had they had devices like this, which could control the feelings and emotions of entire populations!
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It's already here, been here long time -- it's called television // mainstream media experts controll our emotions. We only know what we're told and MOST of us get told by the media only what it is THEY want us to know. Wake up and smell the cordite --

Ever wonder why it is that we become so interested in a murder of a pretty white girl who lives 2000 miles away in a city we may or may not have ever visited? Terrible, yes, but consider all the crimes that take place between where you sit watching the news and the location of that murder // yet we are focused on that one particular case, it's on all channels, it's on each and everyday and goes on and on and on --

It ususally follows something really truly important our government wants us to not think long about -- like 655,000 Iraqi deaths since our bombing campaign began -- or -- some such thing. Understand? Hope so. It's already here and doing fine, thank you very much. Wake up!!!!!!
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 5:50 am | #

George Van Tassel - The Council Of Seven Lights
http://www.scribd.com/doc/39229/...Of-Seven- Lights
...tes all things through the "A" positive, and "B" negative lines of force. The center of our planet consists of a sun. This sun, as the core, rotates in the opposite direction to the moving crust. Between the fiery center of the positively charged core and the negative crust is an insulating, nonconductive strata of fluid glass (obsidian), six hundred miles in thickness. All ruptures of the cru...

Serpent Code
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80515/...15/Serpent- Code
...e Serpent Code Serpent worship was once common in Ireland until Christianity's dominance systematic wiped it out. Yet according to Philip Gardiner the signs of this ancient wisdom lore can still be found today throughout the world. Ireland, St Patrick and the Pests Ireland was once infested with snakes. So say the Christian stories of St. Patrick, who supposedly expelled them

Spirals symbols and snakes - Finding clues to our serpent worshipping past
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80516/...bols-and- snakes
...e snake. In this Article I want to extend that now a little and for us to journey around the world of symbols. By understanding what many of these symbols mean and just how universal they are we will be guided into this lost world of our past. We will begin with a symbol of life itself from the world's greatest ancient civilisation. Ankh The Ankh is the Crux Ansata. A simple T-Cross

Fritz Springmeier - Bloodlines Of The Illuminati (1995)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63614/...Illuminati- 1995
Illuminati Bloodlines converted into PDF

Reade, Winwood - The Veil of Isis
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6857/R...he-Veil-of- Isis
...e mysterious Zodiac's burning girth, By each and all of these supernal signs, We do adjure thee, with this trusty blade To guard yon central oak, whose holy stem, Involves the spirit of high Taranis: Be this thy charge."-MASON DEDICATION. TO EMILY***. As those presents are always the most fashionable, and sometimes the most valued, which cannot be used, I give you this book, which you will not be...

Heindel, Max - Message of the Stars
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6724/H...ge-of-the- Stars
...who rule the planets and the signs of the Zodiac, and that passage of the Sun and the planets through the twelve signs of the Zodiac, marks man's progress in time and in space. Therefore it is not to be wondered at, that in the course of their investigations into the spiritual development of mankind, the writers have also encountered much that deals with the Zodiac which is the boundary of our evolut...

The Watchers - The history of those who watch us
http://www.scribd.com/doc/72940/...40/The- Watchers
...d symbolism still used today by the Freemasons, Rosicrucians and many others. It is the tale of the Watchers - otherwise known as the 'sons of God' and in Hebrew as Eyrim (Irim). In doing so we shall be taking a look at the very origins of the first secret societies and the influences of astrotheology and serpent worship upon them. We must first turn to Sumeria. Zecharia Sitchin in The Stairway t...

SHAAH-NAAME OF FERDOWSI (The Epic of Kings )
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48807/...e-Epic-of- Kings
Translated by Helen Zimmern HISTORY OF THE PERSIAN EMPIRE HERE YOU FIND A COLLECTION OF ORIGINAL WRITINGS ABOUT POLITICS AND RELIGION IN ANCIENT IRAN (PERSIA) ...master of the world. He took up his abode in the mountains, and clad himself and his people in tigerskins, and from him sprang all kindly nurture and the arts of clothing, till then unknown. Men and beasts from all parts of the earth came to do him homage and receive laws at his hands, and his glory was like to the sun. Then Ahriman the Evil, when he saw how the Shah's honour was increased, waxed en...
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 5:46 am | #

The Wireless Cloud Experiment
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com.../news/ part1.htm
What government wouldn't want the ability to tranquilize a entire city during a Riot, or better yet keep all of its citizens content or happy by continually feeding them prerecorded emotions! Imagine how small Police Forces might become if we could be controlled in this manner. Imagine how thrilled tyrants like Adolf Hitler , Josef Stalin, or Saddam Hussein would have been had they had devices like this, which could control the feelings and emotions of entire populations!

Our government evidently understands the potential of control over entire populations, as evidenced by their recent "Wireless Cloud Experiment"!

NEWS BRIEF: "How can people tap into a wireless 'cloud'?", By Marsha Walton, CNN Sci-Tech, July 31, 2002.

"ATHENS, Georgia (CNN) -- Applications for a wireless "cloud" may not seem obvious at first, but organizers of the high-tech project in Athens, Georgia, say there are many ways in which it can be used. The University of Georgia has joined with local government to create WAG, the Wireless Athens Group. They're building a cloud over several blocks of the downtown area where anyone with the right equipment can have free Internet access. The cloud now covers about three blocks, and it will soon expand to 24.

CNN's Marsha Walton looks into how users can tap into it.

* Sports -- University of Georgia students already have successfully tested some options ... They used wireless technology to provide instant replays on personal digital assistants (PDAs) at a recent college baseball game. for the really devoted (or lazy) fan, students have come up with a prototype for this possibility: Beam your beer and snack order directly to a computer at the concession stand, punch in your seat number, and the food will be delivered. You never have to miss a pitch, a hit, or an argument with the umpire.

* Music -- On any given night in this college town, 40 bands might be taking the stage at local bars and coffee houses. For a student unfamiliar with most of the performers, and unwilling to part with a $3 cover charge for music he or she doesn't like, the wireless "cloud" could provide a chance to sample a song or two from some of these bands.

* Retail -- People walking out of class or an office and in a rush for lunch could pull up a menu from a local restaurant, place an order, even pay online via their PDA. By the time they walked a few blocks to the cafe, their food would be ready to go.

* World market -- A wireless cloud in central or south America could empower people who have little access to telecommunications infrastructure now ... (customers will) be able to communicate at a very cheap rate."

However, this technology has a very dark lining. This same "Wireless Cloud" hovering over a city can also communicate with, and control, MMEA chips implanted in people! Conceivably, RF transmissions from this cloud could cause everyone in whom this chip is implanted to feel euphoria, depression, or any other emotion at the same time, totally at the will of the people controlling the BMI software. If the controllers wanted to sedate the entire population, they could easily do so. If they wanted to implant thoughts in the minds of the people, they conceivably can implant them.

Therefore, when New Age writings say that thoughts will be implanted in people's minds when "The Christ" arises, is this the technology which will produce those implanted thoughts?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 5:37 am | #

Osama bin Laden --

Sometimes spelled -- Usama bin Laden

-- (As in 'USA'ma bin Laden)

Look at that again -- 'USA' ma.Why?? // because he was a CIA operative, of course; that's why.
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Just my way of saying Good Morning, forum people. Time's now 5:28 in the a.m. here on the East Coast of the good ol' USA. Looks like it's gonna be a hot one today. Think I'll just sit back and read your posted comments -- stay out of the heat -- maybe I'll learn something. Write on.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 5:34 am | #

D.A.R.P.A. IS FUNDING AN IMPLANTABLE CHIP FAR MORE ADVANCED THAN"DIGITAL ANGEL"!
M.M.E.A. - MULTIPLE MICRO ELECTRODE ARRAY IS SO ADVANCED IT CAN FULFILL REV 13:16-18!
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com.../news/ part1.htm
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 5:34 am | #

Mullins - The World Order - A Study in the Hegemony of Parasitism (1985)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63847/...Parasitism- 1985

Marrs - Rule by Secrecy - The Hidden History That Connects The Trilateral Commission, The Freemasons
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63846/...t-Pyramids- 2000

Kundalini - Preventing the Apocalypse - Sam Fryman
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63845/...ypse-Sam- Fryman

Icke - Children of the Matrix - How an Interdimensional Race has Controlled the World for Thousands
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63841/...Still-Does- 2001

Guillen - The Vatican's Mafia (ex-Monsignor exposes corruption inside Vatican) (2003)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63840/...de-Vatican- 2003

Bernays - Propaganda (how the media molds your mind) (1928 )
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63837/...-your-mind- 1928

100 Ways to Disappear and Live Free
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63836/...r-and-Live- Free

KAP, Quantum Gravity, Generalized Theory of Gravitation, and Superstring Theory
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63835/...sed- Unification

Edgar Cayce, The Children Of The Law Of One And The Lost Teachings Of Atlantis - By Jon Peniel
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63834/...s-By-Jon- Peniel

lluminati - Mind Control (DID-MPD child abuse torture satanism lsd cia ufo 748pg)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63832/...d-cia-ufo- 748pg

The Power of Now - A Guide to Spiritual Enlightment by Eckhart Tolle
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63831/...y-Eckhart- Tolle
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 5:02 am | #

Confessions of an Economic Hitman-John Perkins
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19489/...manJohn- Perkins
"Economic hit men (EHMs) are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars," Perkins writes. Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is an extraordinary and ...
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:46 am | #

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776-The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
http://www.scribd.com/doc/12190/...of- Independence
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within. He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers. He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance. He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures. He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world: For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury: For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences: For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. [9/11???] He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, Amnesty Bill????]already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation. He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.[tell on your neigbors/we want names!!!] He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. [ok, that was racist]

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred. to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends. We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
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GUYS, PLEASE READ EVERY FUCKING WORD OF THIS AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:37 am | #

Published in 1776, Common Sense challenged the authority of the British government and the royal monarchy. The plain language that Paine used spoke to the common people of America and was the first work to openly ask for independence from Great Britain.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/99317/...17/Common- Sense
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:26 am | #

Thomas Paine Origin of Freemasonry 1818
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13184/...-of- Freemasonry
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:25 am | #

It was the images of workers tumbling thru the air en route to the pavement from the ninety second floor that did it for me... And plants masquerading as journalists… Watson posts spam about Ed and his hillbilly mate, and claims the missile evidence does not exist…
Darryl Van Horn | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:13 am | #
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Good post Darryl, you do the Australia/Scottish Rite/US Freemason trilateral commission proud. Hey when we get 1200 Cheney/Halliburton CFR/AEI Death Camps up and running can we start using the superhighway to route all the amero minorities to the ovens. If you still got that line into Lynn's vibrating satan phone can you ask? We just want to know when to use the 9/11 Cheny special thermate on the guilotine boxcar tracks. Do you think you can bother satan spawn's wife to get that question answered?

Oh and tell Rothschild and Rockefeller that the Ames eugenics/DNA fuck your kids in sacrificial Rites lab but pretend we are just studying pigs has also been identified as a weapon against the American people. How the fuck do you get so much hidden funding for this shit. You are supposed to be defending the citizens not enslaving them, what is your general malfunction soldier???
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:18 am | #

Banned Books:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/45597/...97/Banned- Books
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:16 am | #

General Relativity by Albert Einstein:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/127168...eral- Relativity

Albert Einstein - Contemplating the cosmos:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/103152...ting-the- cosmos

Albert Einstein - The World As I See It
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48868/...rld-As-I-See- It

Albert Einstein - Relativity
http://www.scribd.com/doc/53770/...tein- Relativity

Einstein & Faith
http://www.scribd.com/doc/25697/.../Einstein- Faith
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:16 am | #

Way to go Freddy... Guess you don't want to be called an antisemite but you have been posting the Katherine Schweitzer story all year... and looky at the Jews posting trash... All and all and all things considered the only Jew I ever liked was Katherine S... and she got murdered for speaking up about Jew complicity in The Holocaust... That is the parameter for Jew respect. I respect the Jews whose efforts are directed toward achieving a prosecution for her murder... Since there are no Jews doing so there are no Jews for whom I have respect.

Ed Brown and Ron Paul… Two losers, it’s the same old story… the same tactic… infiltrate the medium… kill hard stories, post anything at all except the truth. Steve Watson’s way…

Ed Brown says, “…Feds have no jurisdiction in New Hampshire.” Ed does not want to pay tax… Alex knew about 911 in advance else why did he mention WTC OBL and Terrorism in one breath two months before. Look at the wanker that turned up to support Ed… what a vile mob of dogs… Steve Watson doesn’t like it when I direct attention to Alex’s lack of attention to 911 facts… Ed Brown is a clown, his mate is a dangerous idiot… Alex Jones is part of the conspiracy and has been at least since July 2001.

This is the truth…

Odigo an Israel based computer firm is identified shortly after 911, as both having warned as many as four thousand Israeli’s not to go to the WTC on 911, and as being linked to the laundering of some hundreds of millions of dollars, also shortly after 911 said to be profits from massive Israeli share trading. Odigo and Mossad are based in Herzliya north of Tel Aviv, after 9/11 Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology, another Israeli company, within a year five executives from Comverse were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from "insider trading." RBN News

Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower, is an air to ground missile which impacted WTC’s 45&6 moments after the impact on the South Tower. There was no plane at the Pentagon nor in Shanksville… else where is the wreckage.

What I find very interesting is that it doesn't matter what message board you go onto, bigots seem to take over and spout the usual canards and racial epithets. I can't imagine harboring that much hate in my mind or body. What does it feel like? Have they ever known a time when they didn't feel that way? What made them so mean? Marci | 06.05.07 - 6:00 pm | #

It was the images of workers tumbling thru the air en route to the pavement from the ninety second floor that did it for me... And plants masquerading as journalists… Watson posts spam about Ed and his hillbilly mate, and claims the missile evidence does not exist…
Darryl Van Horn | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:13 am | #

Senate kills efforts to make legalization more difficult.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...more-difficult/
“The Senate today killed a Republican proposal to require all adult illegal immigrants to return home temporarily in order to qualify for permanent lawful status in this country. Also defeated was a Democratic bid to restrict legal status to those who have been in the United States for four years.”
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TOTAL AMNESTY- No going back home and the day you cross is the day you are a citizen. It is gonna be like the Mariel boatlifts x 100,000!!!! GET READY FOR 100,000 NEW SCARFACES
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:05 am | #

Durbin: Judge Misled Senate About Role In Forming Detainee Policy As WH Lawyer
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...rbin-kavanaugh/
Last year, when Brett Kavanaugh, a former White House lawyer, was sworn-in as a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, President Bush said he chose him because of “the strength of his character.” That character has now come into serious question.

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL), a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, wrote a letter to Kavanaugh yesterday, accusing him of misleading the Senate about his role in formulating detainee policies as a lawyer in the Bush Administration.

Durbin says a recent Washington Post article contradicts Kavanaugh’s sworn testimony:

In [the Washington Post] article, you are reported to have participated in a “heated” White House meeting in 2002 about whether U.S. citizens who had been declared enemy combatants should be given access to lawyers. The information in this article was confirmed today by a report on National Public Radio.

These reports appear to contradict sworn testimony you gave to the Senate Judiciary Committee on May 9, 2006 at your nomination hearing. […]

I asked: “What did you know about Mr. Haynes’s role in crafting the Adminstration’s detention and interrogation policies?”

You testified: “Senator, I did not — I was not involved and am not involved in the questions about the rules governing detention of combatants — and so I do not have the involvement with that.”

In the Post article, which is part of a series on Vice President Dick Cheney, Kavanaugh is said to have argued that Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, for whom he had clerked, “would never accept absolute presidential discretion to declare a U.S. citizen an enemy and lock him up without giving him an opportunity to be represented and heard.”

A spokesman for Kavanaugh claimed his testimony was “accurate.”

Judge Kavanaugh’s confirmation testimony was accurate, and Judge Kavanaugh will continue to carefully address recusal issues based on the law and the facts of each case.

Durbin requested that Kavanaugh “provide the Senate Judiciary Committee with an explanation for this apparent contradiction” as well as recuse himself from “all pending and subsequent cases involving detainees and enemy combatants.”

UPDATE: Jonathan Adler at National Review’s Bench Memos blog posts on the letter too, which is noteworthy for his lack of attempt to either defend Kavanaugh or dispel Durbin’s accusation.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:03 am | #

Senate Conservatives Aggressively Obstructing Critical Legislation
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...te-obstruction/
Senate conservatives in the 110th Congress are obstructing and blocking legislation at a rate more than double that of the past two Congresses combined.

During the first six months of the current Congress, there have been 13 cloture votes on motions to proceed — “each one wasting days of Senate time.” In comparison, there were just four cloture votes on motions to proceed during the the first sessions of the 108th and 109th Congresses combined.

The result: The House of Representatives has passed 239 pieces of legislation during the 110th Congress yet few have made it through the Senate, with conservatives “objecting to just about every major piece of legislation” that Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has tried to bring up.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:03 am | #

Bush less trusted than Putin by U.S. allies.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...n-by-us-allies/
“In one measure of Bush’s unpopularity,” a new Pew poll shows “he is less trusted on foreign policy than Russian President Vladimir Putin by allies Britain, Germany and Canada, even as faith in Putin has plummeted.”

The poll also found that majorities in 26 countries now have a less favorable view of the United States than they did in 2002. Also, “opinions of the American people have declined over the past five years in 23 of 33 countries where trends are available.”
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:01 am | #

http://www.whiterosesociety.org/

Many interesting talk shows
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:55 am | #

http://www.911lies.org/ republica...nvlovement.html

Check this out....
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:53 am | #

This may be too mainstream for some of you, but I think this guy knows his stuff:
http://www.thomhartmann.com/

He has his show archived:
http://www.thomhartmann.com/archive.htm
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:32 am | #

This just in from the Father of the US Constitution, James Madison:

"Of all enemies of TRUE LIBERTY(emphasis mine), war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies and from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the KNOWN INSTRUMENTS(emphasis mine) for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In a war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect of republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities for fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and morals, engendered in both. NO NATION CAN PRESERVE ITS FREEDOM IN THE MIDST OF CONTINUAL WARFARE(emphasis mine).....War is in fact the true nurse of executicve aggrandizement. In a war, a physical force is to be created; and it is the executive will, which is to direct it. In a war, the public treasuries are to be unlocked; and it is the executive branch which is to dispense them. In war, the honors and emoluments of office are to be multiplied; and it is the executive patronage under which they are to be enjoyed; and it is the executive brow they are to circle. The strongest passions and most dangerous weaknesses of the human breast; ambition, avarice, vanity, the honorable or venal love of fame, are all in conspiracy against the desire and duty of peace."
jake | 06.28.07 - 3:29 am | #

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...remain-unknown/
Read Greenwald’s full essay.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/gre...ping/ index.html
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:15 am | #

New Post-Katrina Investigations Reveal More Federal Waste And Incompetence
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...investigations/
Three new investigations shed further light on how the Bush administration betrayed Gulf Coast residents during Hurricane Katrina, and how New Orleans and other affected areas are still suffering from federal waste and incompetence.

Some key highlights of the reports:

EPA allowed toxic chemicals to harm poor Katrina victims: A GAO report revealed that EPA publicly downplayed the risk of asbestos inhalation, which is often released during home demolition, to city residents and failed to deploy air monitors in predominantly African-American neighborhoods. Furthermore, EPA waited nearly eight months to inform residents that short-term visits could expose them to dangerous levels of asbestos and mold.

FEMA ignored its own hurricane plan: Prior to Katrina, FEMA created a “Southeast Louisiana Hurricane Backup Plan” which forecasted specific consequences and action-plans in the event of a hurricane. But “post-Katrina FEMA documents demonstrate that that the plan was never implemented.” The day before Katrina hit, FEMA Deputy Director Patrick Rhode sent an e-mail to Michael Brown’s assistant with the subject line, “copy of New Orleans cat plan,” stating, “I never got one — I think Brown got my copy — did you get one?”

FEMA guaranteed billions in profits for big companies: Following Katrina, federal agencies “doled out more than $2.4 billion in cost-plus contracts,” which “offer companies no incentive to save money or keep costs from ballooning.” FEMA was responsible for nearly 94 percent of all of the hurricane-related cost-plus contracts, with the remainder being issued primarily by the EPA and U.S. Air Force.

Fortunately, Congress has taken action to address some of these issues. In March, the House voted to limit the use of cost-plus contracts. That bill is currently stalled in the Senate, where it awaits action by Homeland Security Chairman Joe Lieberman (I-CT).
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:14 am | #

Bush’s domestic surveillance targets remain unknown.
Bush’s domestic surveillance targets remain unknown.

Glenn Greenwald responds to the New York Times’ assertion this morning that President Bush’s domestic surveillance activities “appear so far to have been aimed at mostly people believed to pose a terrorist threat, not a political threat.”

This passage…is simply misleading. There is no basis whatsoever for claiming that Bush’s NSA warrantless (and illegal) eavesdropping activities were “aimed at mostly people believed to pose a terrorist threat, not a political threat.” It is true — as [reporter Scott] Shane writes — that “there is no evidence” that the administration used its eavesdropping powers against, say, political opponents, but that fact is not exculpatory, because there is “no evidence” at all, one way or the other, regarding how the administration eavesdropped.

There has been no disclosure by the administration of any kind — not to Congress, nor to courts, nor to anyone else — of information revealing who was subjected to the administration’s warrantless eavesdropping program, a program which (by its terms and by design) was conducted in complete secrecy.
Glenn Greenwald responds to the New York Times’ assertion this morning that President Bush’s domestic surveillance activities “appear so far to have been aimed at mostly people believed to pose a terrorist threat, not a political threat.”

This passage…is simply misleading. There is no basis whatsoever for claiming that Bush’s NSA warrantless (and illegal) eavesdropping activities were “aimed at mostly people believed to pose a terrorist threat, not a political threat.” It is true — as [reporter Scott] Shane writes — that “there is no evidence” that the administration used its eavesdropping powers against, say, political opponents, but that fact is not exculpatory, because there is “no evidence” at all, one way or the other, regarding how the administration eavesdropped.

There has been no disclosure by the administration of any kind — not to Congress, nor to courts, nor to anyone else — of information revealing who was subjected to the administration’s warrantless eavesdropping program, a program which (by its terms and by design) was conducted in complete secrecy.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:13 am | #

Guys...dating sites, so many more with this kind of crap:

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psychometric personality test?????

tell me this ain't part of the Ames Eugenics series of data mining.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:10 am | #

Marcianne---

it ain't me, babe, no, no, no, it ain't me......

Could be another jake---two jakes(sounds like a movie) OR
could be a disinformation specialist using my handle to confuse new age heresies with the revealed truth of Jesus of Nazareth.
It is an old ploy but their evil mechanations shall not prosper.
jake | 06.28.07 - 3:02 am | #

US banks on Blair after years of failed American diplomacy
Published: Thursday June 28, 2007 http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ US_...a_06282007.html
The United States pushed hard for Tony Blair to be the diplomatic quartet's Middle East envoy, hoping the close friend of President George W. Bush can make peace inroads after years of failed US diplomacy, experts say.The advantage in the ex-British premier playing that critical role is that he is, despite being a US ally, a European statesman with very good negotiating skills and more outspoken than Washington in underlining the need for an Israeli-Palestinian settlement. "Tony Blair is distinguished from the United States in that respect," said Reginald Dale, a scholar at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. "He is not going to be representing the United States but also the United Nations and the European Union particularly, which is much more likely to counterbalance the United States by being more sympathetic to the Palestinians," said Dale, a senior fellow of the center's European program. Although the quartet -- the European Union, Russia, United Nations and United States -- said Blair would focus on building Palestinian institutions that would form the basis of a Palestinian state, they have left the door open for him to play the role of mediator. The quartet announcement Wednesday said Blair would back up their efforts to promote an end to the Palestinian-Israel conflict, "in conformity with the road map," whose key objective is a two-state solution for Palestinians and Israelis. "Obviously he would not take the job if he didn't think he would have some influence," Dale said. Reports have said that the EU and the Russians were not too keen about Blair's appointment but decided not to block it.

Blair may be well regarded in Israel but reviled in the Arab world for Britain's role in the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq and his support of Israel's war in Lebanon last summer. The United States, the main backer of Israel, has been waging a diplomatic offensive for years to bring about peace in the region. Top negotiator Henry Kissinger carried on a "shuttle diplomacy" which eased tensions after the 1973 war, president Jimmy Carter helped efforts to forge the Camp David accords between Egypt and Israel in 1978, and president Bill Clinton brought Yasser Arafat and Ehud Barak to Camp David in 2000. Bush, with 18 months to go before vacating the White House, is banking on Blair to realize a two-state solution, five years to the month after he became the only president to have proposed an independent Palestinian state. The task would be very challenging amid the current Palestinian turmoil following the bloody ousting by Hamas of Fatah forces in Gaza led by Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas. "Over the last six years, the United States has continued to champion the two-state solution in theory but to undermine it in practice," said Nathan Brown of the Washington-based Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

"In sum, official US statements reflect a deep disconnect from and a denial of the realities on the ground," he said. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who came up with the idea of roping Blair to the envoy job, has been trying for the last year to get the United States back in the peace-process business that was all but abandoned in 2000. But due to "difficult circumstances," her efforts were confined to mere 'confidence-building measures,' noted Noah Feldman of the US Council on Foreign Relations. The State Department made it clear that despite Blair's appointment, Rice would continue to push ahead with Middle East peace talks. Bush and Rice will "focus intensely" on "political negotiations -- advancing the Israeli-Palestinian track, advancing the Israeli-Arab track," department spokesman Sean Mccormack said. The New York Times blames what it calls the Bush administration’s abdication of leadership for the current mess in the region, citing the "endemic" violence and the "hardened" attitudes of the Israelis and Palestinians, among other factors. "If Mr Blair is prepared to speak these home truths to his good friend George Bush and insist on more consistent and evenhanded American engagement, he could restore some of his luster and increase the chances for peace," it said.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:58 am | #

Iraqi Papers Thur: Iraqi "Moderates"' Unite
Major Shi'a-Kurdish Alliance Breathes New Life Into Maliki's Cabinet
By AMER MOHSEN Posted 0 hr. 47 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...Moderates_Unite
Az-Zaman
Iraqi and Arab papers are abuzz with the news of the formation of a new political coalition designed to prop up al-Maliki’s government.

Media outlets have termed the new coalition “the alliance of the moderates,” and it mainly consists from the Shi'a Da'wa and al-Hakeem’s SIIC parties, in addition to the two mainstream Kurdish parties. In other terms, the political groups that remain supportive of al-Maliki within the parliament.

The new coalition is also seeking to gain the Sunni Islamic Party on its side, and – potentially- several deputies from 'Allawi’s bloc, in order to maintain the image of a “non-sectarian” project, as some of the coalition’s engineers are referring to their new political front.

The “coalition of the moderates” intends to establish a smaller cabinet headed by al-Maliki. By distancing parties that –formally- make part of the current Maliki cabinet, but are actively trying to undermine it, the “moderates” hope to create a more harmonious, stable governmental alliance.

Al-Hayat spoke to a leading Kurdish deputy, Mahmud 'Uthman, who described the negotiations leading to the creation of the new front. 'Uthman said that a meeting held earlier this week between SIIC, Da'wa and the two Kurdish parties resulted in “an understanding between the four parties on a number of guidelines and a patriotic political program aiming to support al-Maliki’s government and defeat the hurdles it is facing.”

The “hurdles” 'Uthman was referring to are - most likely - the growing number of parties that are openly opposed to al-Maliki staying in his office; and are continually in negotiations to assemble enough deputies to reverse his parliamentary majority.

Al-Maliki’s opponents, however, were unable to materialize a coalition that could unseat the Prime Minister; while an alliance of the four Kurdish and Shi'a parties, supported by some additional deputies from smaller groups may be able to –mathematically- secure a slight majority in the parliament and guarantee al-Maliki’s post until the next elections. Al-Mada quoted the Shi'a vice-president, 'Adil 'Abdel Mahdi, who had launched a wave of criticism against the government last week, as announcing his support for al-Maliki and the new coalition and denying his intention to challenge the Prime Minister. Al-Mada also relayed that 'Abdel Mahdi met with Ayatollah Sistani in Najaf, in order to inform him about the new coalition. After the meeting, Sistani allegedly announced his support for further unity among the –Shi'a- I'tilaf bloc.

Mathematically speaking, the new coalition represents a retrenchment of the Maliki majority, with the distancing of the Sadrist bloc and most of the Sunni “Accord” coalition. The new coalition, if it materializes, will also further exclude Sunni participation from the government, even if the Islamic Party joins the front. But it will also be the natural result of the failure of the anti-Maliki mosaic to form a viable coalition to challenge the current government.

In other news, Az-Zaman is reporting on a planned demonstration to bring over a million Shi'a into Samarra in a call for the reconstruction of the bombed Shi'a shrine in the city. This “million-man march” is organized by the Sadrist Current and is eliciting fears of violent and reprisals against the demonstrators.

The city of Samarra is located north of Baghdad, in a Sunni-dominated area; the prospect of bringing hundreds of thousands of religious Shi'a to the site is seen by many as extremely risky, given recent sectarian tensions.

Az-Zaman spoke to members of the municipal council of Dujail, where the demonstration is expected to pass, and the local officials expressed worries that “the noble purposes behind the demonstration ... may be abused to plant sedition.” Az-Zaman reported on several rumors surrounding the demonstration, one of which stating that members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard will “infiltrate” the demonstrations.

A member of Dujail’s local council, who spoke to Az-Zaman by phone, said that several tribal and local leaders have elected to move away from the demonstration’s path into the rural countryside, in anticipation of the worst.

Lastly, al-Hayat said that residents of Basra expressed dismay when fellow Basris celebrated a recent victory of the Iranian soccer team over the Iraqi national squad in an Asian tournament.

The newspaper said that shots were fired in celebration in the southern city following Iran’s victory in West Asia’s Cup last week. The Iranian team faced Iraq in the final match and won by one goal to nil.

Many of the Iraqis cheering the Iranian team, the paper explained, are among the Iraqis who lived in neighboring Iran and returned recently to their country of origin following the ouster of Saddam Husain.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:54 am | #

US Papers Thu: Contracting Iraq
Light Violence in Baghdad; Oil Deals to be 'Amended'
By CHRIS ALLBRITTON Posted 0 hr. 58 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...ontracting_Iraq
News from and about Iraq was sparse and scattered today, what with all the news about Tony Blair stepping down. Accordingly, no single story rises to the top. If it can be said there is any thematic linkage in the coverage, it would be God, Money and Oil -- pretty much what you would expect out of Iraq.

The New York Times provides the sole daily roundup of Iraq's events, with Alissa Rubin leading with the news that talks are underway regarding the arrest warrant for Culture Minister Asad al-Hashimi, wanted for plotting the assassination of a rival politician in 2005. According to a spokesman for Hashimi, the talks involve three demands: release of the minister's 42 bodyguards who were arrested, the "restoration of the minister’s good name" and a new, independent investigation. Since the bodyguards have already been released, it sounds like he just wants the whole thing to go away.

Elsewhere in Iraq, an American soldier was killed and four others injured in mainly-Shi'ite eastern Baghdad by a roadside bomb, 21 bodies were found throughout Baghdad and a bomb killed a policman. Rubin describes the violence as "scattered." A car bomb in the usually quiet Kadhimiya killed two people and wounded four. Another roadside bomb killed three people north of Baghdad. A deadly encounter in Sadr City is disputed by local residents and American troops, and Americans are trying to break off locals from insurgents in the Sunni neighborhood of Adhimiya -- with little success. The U.S. military announced the death of a Marine in Anbar on Tuesday.

Northern Iraq is heating up, Rubin writes, probably because of militants from Baqoubah who fled Operation Arrowhead Ripper. Kirkuk police arrested 10 gunmen from Diyalah who carried material referring to the Islamic State of Iraq, a front group for Al Qaeda in Iraq. Another journalist was killed in Mosul and four cops, along with two civilians, killed in Samarra after a bomb exploded and the police opened fire.

The Christian Science Monitor's Sam Dagher reports on the War of the Mosques going on in Iraq, as rival Shi'ite and Sunni clerics and politicians jockey to claim credit for protecting the respective sects' holy places. Iraqi vice president didn't really help things one Friday when he told worshippers at the Khulani that Sunni extremists "want to strike your religion, sect, and faith. They trespass on the shrines of our imams." Other than stirring up sectarian passions, the government doesn't seem to be doing much. In the last month, six of Iraq's most important Shi'ite mosques and shrines have been attacked by bombings, Dagher reports, with Shi'ite leaders blaming the U.S. and its "agents" in order to extend its stay in Iraq and Sunni leaders blaming the Iran, as part of a "Persian plot" to eradicate Sunnis. The Sadrists are guarding the Shi'ite mosques, while the Sunnis are using the attacks as a rallying cry to the insurgency. It's a very tense situation.

The Washington Post offers no reporting out of Iraq, but does look at the all-important logistics contract that for years had been dominated by one firm (KBR in recent years). This time, the $150 billion contract has been awarded to three firms, including KBR, ostensibly in order to encourage competition and accountability. Dana Hedgpeth reports that the contract to house and feed troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kuwait has been granted to Fluor Intercontinental of Greenville, S.C., DynCorp International of Fort Worth and KBR of Houston, with each company awarded $5 billion a year in a contract that can be extended for up to nine more years. Because of allegations of overcharging, poor record-keeping and inside influence thanks to Vice President Dick Cheney, awarding KBR part of the contract partially vindicates it, according to Lexington Institute, a defense research organization. The Times runs an un-bylined piece that adds nothing to what the Post covered.

The Wall Street Journal runs a story by Ayesha Daya about Iraq's move to change some of its old Hussein-era oil contracts in preparation for the new oil revenue law expected to be passed within the next two months. Contracts with China, India, Indonesia and Vietnam would be altered under the new law, but, frustratingly, Daya doesn't explain how the contracts would be changed or renegotiated. Thamer al-Ghadhban, an advisor to Prime Minister Nouri al-Malaki, said only that the contracts would be "amdended," over and over again.

USA Today runs a pair of stories by Matt Kelley on Iraqis' increasing sophistication in Washington's corridors of power. That's right: they're hiring more lobbyists. Since the start of the war in March 2003, 18 lobbyists and firms have registered to represent Iraqis, who have paid the lobbyists more than $16.7 million through January of this year -- more than 10 times the amount Iraqi opposition groups spent in the 12 years prior to the invasion, Kelley writes. Within the Iraqi government, seven politicians or factions have hired lobbyists, including the Kurds, a Sunni group called al-Tawafuq and Ayad Allawi. The Kurds want increased investment in the north and backing for the plan to seize Kirkuk, while al-Tawafuq wants more Sunnis in the security forces. Allawi presumably wants to be prime minister again. The biggest spender, however, is the Iraqi government ($13.4 million) in its quest to reduce Iraq's foreign debt from $140 billion to $30 billion and investigate fraud in the Oil-for-Food Program under Saddam.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:54 am | #

Ahmadinejad: "I am not anti-Semitic"
http:// www.informationclearingho...rticle17925.htm
Palestinians should Decide on Two-State Solution. Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul continue to show themselves among the few in Congress with any integrity and backbone. They declined to go along with a resolution charging Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad with incitement to genocide, given his alleged call for Israel to be 'wiped off the face of the map.'

Candidate Hillary Does Iraq
http:// www.informationclearingho...rticle17929.htm
Hillary categorizes the situation in Iraq as “extraordinarily difficult”. Maybe, but there is a solution although she wouldn’t like it. She would find it “impossibly” difficult. As a nation we confess to the crime of aggression, apologize, arrest and punish the perpetrators, and pay reparations. Continue

Informed Witness Vs. Ignoramus
http:// www.informationclearingho...rticle17927.htm
California 46th District Republican Dana Rohrabacher’s questioning of witnesses descended into a near-rant during an April 17, 2007 joint subcommittee hearing of the U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs. Although the subject of the hearing was extraordinary rendition Rohrabacher’s harangue illustrates the flawed thinking that has made the entire “war on terror” such a misguided enterprise. Continue

Political Attention Deficit Disorder – New Psychiatric Condition
http:// www.informationclearingho...rticle17928.htm
Nearly 80 percent of adult American citizens are unable to pay sustained attention to issues and problems associated with their government. They are unable to accept their responsibility as citizens, including their obligation to vote, read in-depth articles and books on political issues. Continue

Village disputes story of deadly attack :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/ 6239896.stm
They say that of 16 guards, 11 were killed and five others injured - two of them seriously - when US helicopters fired rockets at them and then strafed them with heavy machinegun fire.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:51 am | #

GOP quietly giddy about New Orleans’ black diaspora
http://scholarsandrogues.wordpre...black-diaspora/
Posted by Mike Sheehan in 2008 election, African-Americans, Louisiana, Mary Landrieu, racial politics, Bobby Jindal, Robert Novak, diaspora, race, Karl Rove, GOP, politics, Republicans, Democrats, New Orleans, Senate, Katrina. 5 comments

So Bob Novak snidely suggests in his latest political report. Talking about upcoming US Senate races, Novak has this to say about Louisiana, which he feels is the GOP’s “best pickup opportunity” in 2008:

Republicans were already on the upswing here before Hurricane Katrina, and at the local level, the villains in the story of Katrina were nearly all Democrats. The election of 2007 could be promising for Republicans at the state level.

If Rep. Bobby Jindal (R) wins the race for governor this fall — and indications are that he will — then the governor and one senator will be Republicans. Of course part of the thinking, voiced publicly by no one, is that the state’s black population in New Orleans largely disappeared with Hurricane Katrina, significantly diminishing the base vote for Landrieu.

Gotta love those Acts of God, especially when the Lord smiles on the Grand Old Party and smites the swarthy sons of Canaan.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:46 am | #

>>>>>Revived immigration bill will lead to REAL ID–and to identity theft and data breaches
http://scholarsandrogues.wordpre...-data-breaches/
June 27, 2007
Posted by Martin in economic collapse, border patrol, sellouts, consumer affairs, Latino politics, REAL ID, xenophobia, scandal, Privacy, training, immigration, morons, identity theft, terror, politics. trackback

Like a zombie lurching from the grave, the Senate has decided to resurrect the behemoth “guest worker compromise” immigration bill. And just as before, not only will this bill create a permanent underclass of indentured slave labor that will depress American wages and crush union negotiating clout, but it will be a security disaster that will expose millions of workers to identity theft, and offer a back door to a default national identity card.

Carolyn Lockhead at the SF Chronicle accurately predicted on Monday how much of a mess implementing this new law will be:

A government that cannot issue passports to 3 million U.S. citizens in time for summer holidays is expected to create a vast work-authorization system for more than 7 million U.S. employers and eventually all 146 million U.S. workers that is quick, accurate and safe.

Yet according to a confidential new study commissioned by the Department of Homeland Security, the system that would do this — known as Web Basic Pilot — is vulnerable to identity theft, employer misuse, privacy breaches and data inaccuracies. Heavy enforcement would be required to prevent it from being evaded by illegal workers and employers alike.

I’ve written on several occasions that the basic weakness in these verification systems is the ability to forge “breeder documents” — birth certificate, Social Security card, driver’s license, etc. Without a system to effectively verify literally billions of paper documents–an expensive proposition in its own right–any sort of employer database is not only going to be a goldmine for thieves and hackers, but it will be riddled with such bad information that it’ll make a credit bureau look like a model of accuracy.

This proposition will never succeed as it stands. Employers will balk at the onerous reporting requirements. Workers will balk at giving up more of their information. IT departments will balk at the huge costs and effort of implementing these reporting requirements. So the architects of the immigration bill are using a “back door”–by requiring employees to have a REAL ID-authenticated ID card to be considered “verified.”

REAL ID is a monstrously unpopular program that is opposed by the governors and state legislatures of over half the fifty states. It is an unfunded mandate, which means that states will have to come up with the money to fund upgrading their DMVs, training their workers, and now creating the IT systems necessary to ensure the licenses comply with the immigration bill’s verification system. Anyone who has ever spent a day at their local DMV can tell you how foolhardy the idea of making these folks the frontlines for antiterrorism and immigration enforcement is.

And just like the REAL ID bill itself was shoehorned into an Iraq war authorization bill with no debate, now it’s going to be used as the “reacharound” to ensure that the immigration bill’s otherwise deeply flawed security provisions get the duke. And that can’t be allowed to happen.

I wrote a little bit about this at Private Intelligence as well, including links to get help to stop this from becoming law.
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Fuck yeah, the news is finally getting to some mainstream blogs, SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:38 am | #

World's distrust of US grows: massive poll-Distrust US foreign policy on the rise; many blame US for environmental ills.
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....%3Fid% 3D6365578
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:36 am | #

Report: Cheney backs off on claim that he is 'fourth branch of government' Michael Roston
Published: Wednesday June 27, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ch..._that_0627.html
With a vote looming in Congress on Thursday to defund the Office of the Vice President in the White House's annual appropriation, a report at The Politico claims that the White House will no longer advance the argument that the Vice President's office is not a part of the executive branch.

Posted on PP homepage as well.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:34 am | #

Cheney, others served with subpoenas by wiretapping investigators Michael Roston
Published: Wednesday June 27, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ch...as_by_0627.html
The Senate Judiciary Committee has served Vice President Dick Cheney and other officials in the White House and Justice Department with subpoenas over President George W. Bush's warrantless wiretapping programs.

"Over the past 18 months, this Committee has made no fewer than nine formal requests to the Department of Justice and to the White House, seeking information and documents about the authorization of and legal justification for this program," Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in a statement released to RAW STORY. "All requests have been rebuffed. Our attempts to obtain information through testimony of Administration witnesses have been met with a consistent pattern of evasion and misdirection."

The subpoenas were authorized last week by the Judiciary Committee by a 13-3 vote, and target "documents related to authorization and reauthorization of the program or programs; the legal analysis or opinions about the surveillance; orders, decisions, or opinions of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) concerning the surveillance; agreements between the Executive Branch and telecommunications or other companies regarding liability for assisting with or participating in the surveillance; and documents concerning the shutting down of an investigation of the Department of Justice’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) relating to the surveillance," according to the release.

In the subpoena letters, Leahy made particular reference to the Bush administration's attempts to roll back existing oversight of the domestic spying program conducted through the National Security Agency.

"This Committee’s inquiry into this warrantless electronic surveillance is essential to the performance of its constitutional legislative and oversight responsibilities," he wrote. "The Administration has asked Congress to make sweeping changes to FISA – a crucial national security authority over which the Judiciary Committee has jurisdiction. It is impossible to make informed legislative decisions without understanding fully the Administration’s interpretation of FISA and the perceived flaws in that legislation that led the Administration to operate a program outside of its provisions for more than five years."

The letters were sent to the Justice Department, the Office of the White House, the Office of the Vice President, and the National Security Council. The recipients of the subpoenas are called on to comply with the subpoenas by July 18.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:32 am | #

Legal expert: White House stonewalling may force Congress to charge president with criminal offenses
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Wednesday June 27, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ La..._open_0627.html

Keith Olbermann announced on Wednesday's Countdown that the White House is refusing on grounds of executive privilege to honor Senate subpoenas and release documents relating to its warrantless wiretapping. In addition, Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, David Addington, has sent a letter to Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) saying Cheney's office will not comply with oversight by the National Archives because it is not "an agency."

Olbermann then turned to law professor Joanathan Turley, who agreed tentatively that the administration might move slowly enough to "run out the clock" on its time in office. "But there is one thing that might concern them about the court," Turley said, "and that is, you know, for many years, since we first found out about this program, some of us have said that this was a clearly criminal act that the president called for. ... If we're right, not only did he order that crime, but it would be, in fact, an impeachable offense."

"Both sides, both Democrats and Republicans, have avoided this sort of pig in the parlor," Turley continued. "They don't want to recognize that this president may have ordered criminal offenses. But they may now be on the road to do that, because the way Congress can get around the executive privilege in court is to say, we're investigating a potential crime."

Olbermann went on to joke that the attempt to pin down Cheney's real nature is starting to sound like a game of 20 Questions. Turley laughed and said, "The position adopted by Mr. Addington and Mr. Cheney, to put it bluntly, was absurd. ... In past administrations, if someone like Mr. Addington made such a moronic argument as this one, they would be out of a job the next week. ... I think that what it really shows is the lack of sort of adult supervision within the administration."

Olbermann probed further into why Cheney has given up claiming he is not part of the executive branch but is still not complying with the order. "Is this an attempt to stop what Congressman Emanuel talked about yesterday, cutting off the funding? Is it just more smokescreen?"

"This administration, I have to say, has a certain contempt for the law," said Turley. "They treat it like some of my criminal defendents used to treat it. ... They come up with any argument that might work. ... It's a sort of shocking development. ... But at the end of the day, they will lose, and they're making the situation worse."
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:31 am | #

Dude, I am here pretty much all the time. If I miss more than 5 days in a row-I am most likely dead, so ask me anything anytime and I will do what I can to answer.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:15 am | #

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I knew when ya was gone for 4 days a week ago lol
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 2:23 am | #

It was not 4 days, was it?

I will let you guys know in the future.

You have really become like a 4th family.

In any case I am worried about AK and Tired of the Lies....

Could you guys check in????
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:26 am | #

this 5 hr documentary basically starts with egypt and secret societies, and into present day with 9-11 being inside job.. and david icke hits on some truth too about reptilians, bloodlines and "demon possessions".. tsarian (spelling?) looking into the celtic/druidic side of world history.. for what little I saw in that 1 hr, is onto the same type of things
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 2:20 am | #
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I really like a lot of Icke's stuff but the reptillian thing cannot easily be explained even by him. Tsarion gives some more logical explanations in my humble opinion.

I will check out Icke again though as I was prtty much 99% wrong about Tsarion until 24 hours ago.

Also like in Shooter, just when you think you got the answer...you don't.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:24 am | #

http://www.preferrednetwork.com/ ..._details_66.htm

this 5 hr documentary basically starts with egypt and secret societies, and into present day with 9-11 being inside job.. and david icke hits on some truth too about reptilians, bloodlines and "demon possessions".. tsarian (spelling?) looking into the celtic/druidic side of world history.. for what little I saw in that 1 hr, is onto the same type of things
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 2:20 am | #

The bottom line is that illegal alien amnesty bills help terrorists kill Americans.

The September 2005 CIS report also states that "The 1986 amnesty program was fraudulently used five times in attempts to establish residency. One terrorist, Mir Aimal Kansi, sought amnesty under the 1986 law for illegal entrants. Four others, three convicted for their roles in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and one in the 1993 Landmarks case, sought amnesty under the Special Agricultural Workers Program. Three who sought amnesty under this program attained it."

Nevertheless, Senator Reid, with White House support, wants to push a similar amnesty bill. The new bill includes all the same enforcement provisions that were included in the 1986 bill but never carried out. The only difference between then and now is there are now more illegal aliens in this country. There were less than 3 million illegal aliens in the U.S. in 1986. But, depending on estimates, there are now between 12 and 20 million illegal aliens in the U.S.

So here's the question: if five terrorists used the 1986 Amnesty bill in attempts to establish residency, what happens now that there might be ten times as many illegal immigrants in this country? Could there be 20 terrorists illegally living in the U.S. right now who could be granted amnesty by a new "comprehensive immigration reform" bill? Could there be 50? 100? Or More?

Voting in favor of an amnesty bill under these circumstances is tantamount to turning a blind eye to terrorists on American soil plotting to kill Americans. Why do we tolerate the spectacle of our government officials putting our lives at risk?

Let's build the fence and identify and isolate the illegal aliens. Then, at the very least, let's immediately deport those with terrorist ties before they try to kill us again. This is the only "immigration reform" that makes any sense.

Why can't Bush, Democrats and Republicans agree on that? Why do they insist on putting us all in danger? And why won't the media do their jobs and insist on a solution that will protect America from another terrorist attack?
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 2:19 am | #

Senator Reid's Amnesty for Terrorists Bill
By Andy Selepak | May 30, 2007 It should not have come down to the terrorists' stupidity that led them to be caught.
After the capture by federal authorities of six alleged Muslim terrorists, three of whom were illegal aliens, charged with planning a terrorist attack on the Fort Dix military base in New Jersey, Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) was quoted by ABC News on May 10, 2007, as saying, "I think it would be a real tragedy if we tried to make this immigration debate one dealing with terrorism."

Reid thinks it would be a tragedy if the debate over immigration addressed how potential terrorists enter the United States? Isn't the purpose of an immigration bill to regulate and restrict who enters this country? Shouldn't it be a given that terrorists are to be kept out of the U.S.?

On one level, Reid's statement might be seen as a gaffe or misstatement. Politicians make them occasionally. But in light of the Fort Dix case, his statement must be seen as far worse. It should be viewed as designed to ignore a problem that continues to pose a mortal danger to every American. That's why the Senate's amnesty legislation has to be derailed before politicians make a bad situation even worse.

Nevertheless, Reid got away with this shocking statement because the media, like the Democrats, President Bush and some Republicans, have a blind spot on how America's immigration policy has facilitated the entry into the U.S. of people who want to kill us.

We should recall the facts about the so-called "Fort Dix Six." They included Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, 22, from Jordan; Eljvir Duka, 23, Dritan Duka, 28, and Shain Duka, 26, all from the former Yugoslavia and ethnic Albanians; Serder Tatar, 23, from Turkey; and Argon Abdullahu, 24, from the former Yugoslavia and an ethnic Albanian. Abdullahu is charged with helping the Dukas illegally obtain firearms. Only Shnewer was a U.S. citizen, Tatar and Abdullahu were described by the Post as being "legal residents," and the three Duka brothers were all residing in the U.S. illegally.

The Star Ledger reported on May 10, 2007, that "The Duka family entered the United States illegally through Mexico in October 1984," including the three brothers' mother and father, Zurata and Ferik Duka.

Senator Reid's statement about separating the immigration debate from terrorism represents a break with reality. Why isn't he held accountable by our media for this blindness?

Although three of the Fort Dix Six were illegal aliens, they were not uncovered by the U.S. immigration system, the Patriot Act, the FBI, or the CIA. According to the May 9 Washington Post, the would-be terrorists were "undone after attempting to have jihad training tapes copied onto a DVD." The paper noted that "Had they not offered up an alleged jihadist video to be duplicated at a nearby Circuit City, they might never have been spotted."

It should not have come down to the terrorists' stupidity that led them to be caught. The fact is that the Duka brothers would never have had the opportunity to train in the Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania, or film their training, if it were not for a broken U.S. immigration system. And all this only six years after 9/11, when terrorist attacks carried out by foreign nationals, here both legally and illegally, killed nearly 3,000 Americans.

The 1993 World Trade Center bombings and September 11th should have prompted an immediate overhaul of our badly broken immigration system, but Reid doesn't want the terrorist threat to get in the way of allowing millions of illegal aliens to stay in the U.S. and making a large number of them U.S. citizens and Democratic Party constituents. Short-term political gain trumps keeping America safe.

In the Fort Dix case, American soldiers and civilians were needlessly put in danger and almost killed because our government refuses to enforce our immigration laws.

Hundreds could have been killed and/or wounded, and the blame would have fallen on President Bush, both political parties and both Houses of Congress. Our immigration system is broken, but so is our government. We have a federal system of government unable or unwilling to protect and defend our borders.

While the Dukas had evaded immigration authorities for 23 years, they had not avoided the New Jersey police. They had been stopped dozens of times a year for speeding, illegal passing and driving without a license. In addition, on May 10, the Washington Post reported that Dritan Duka pleaded guilty in 2000 to possession of drug paraphernalia and Shain Duka to possession of marijuana.

The article continued that "Only one brother had a driver's license, and only briefly. But they drove anyway and were ticketed regularly by Cherry Hill police…" In fact, "The three had their driving privileges suspended-meaning they could not even apply for a license-54 times in less than a decade."

Incredibly, the Post reported that "William Kushina, a Cherry Hill Police Department spokesman, said the department could do nothing about serial unlicensed driving except continue to issue tickets and suspend privileges."

The incompetent enforcement of our immigration laws at the federal level is also evident at the local level. Meanwhile, the American people remain vulnerable to attack. Illegal aliens, including potential terrorists, seem to break laws at will, confident they will never be caught, or if they are, never deported.

In this case, it was a clerk at Circuit City that prevented what would have been a massive attack on a U.S. military base on U.S. soil. Thankfully, an individual with a conscience saved the day. Our government at many levels failed us. But now the federal government wants to give amnesty to even more illegal aliens on American soil-who may be potential terrorists.

The fact that illegal aliens were planning a deadly attack on American soldiers and on U.S. soil at a military base is lost on supporters for amnesty for illegals. ABC News reported that Democrats, for instance, "reject the argument" that the Duka brothers or Abdullahu prove anything.

Sadly, this is an old story of the government providing amnesty to illegal aliens and ignoring the consequences. Our government never learns, essentially guaranteeing another terrorist attack.

According to a Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) report from September 2005, "of 94 terrorists who operated in the United States between the early 1990s and 2004, including six of the September 11th hijackers…about two-thirds (59) committed immigration fraud prior to or in conjunction with taking part in terrorist activity." But they stayed in the U.S. anyway. The September 2005 CIS report discloses that, in 1983, "9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM)…enrolled first at Chowan College, a Baptist school in Murfreesboro, North Carolina, and then at North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University in Greensboro. There, one of his classmates was Ramzi Yousef's brother, who himself later became an al-Qaeda member while Yousef planned the 1993 World Trade Center and Bojinka plots with KSM."

In a report entitled "The Open Door, How Militant Islamic Terrorists Entered and Remained in the United States, 1993-2001" the CIS reported that "Past amnesties for illegal aliens have facilitated terrorism. Mahmud Abouhalima, a leader of the 1993 Trade Center bombing, was legalized as a seasonal agricultural worker as part of the 1986 amnesty."

The report says that Mohammed Salameh, another conspirator in the 1993 Trade Center bombing, "applied for the same amnesty as Abouhalima and was denied" but "continued to live and work in the United States illegally and ultimately took part in the 1993 attack."
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 2:19 am | #

Your point is MY point. We know we are in the RIGHT camp. It really makes no difference whether the outcome is as we choose only that we stand for TRUTH. As far as casting our pearls before swine, I shout the truth and care not(we are likeminded) what anyone thinks. If you or I wake up one slumbering person we have VICTORY.............Agreed?
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 2:08 am | #

I could not have typed it better myself.

You really should post more. Your comments have enlightened ...let's see...at least 50 non cointelpro visitors and thousands of others that just download these pages for later reading and investigating.

In addition the COINTELPRO guys have to document everything, so every sentence of truth goes out to like 25 different gov groups. It is like they are doing our work for us

Dude, I am here pretty much all the time. If I miss more than 5 days in a row-I am most likely dead, so ask me anything anytime and I will do what I can to answer.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:15 am | #

Sees Things-this is the one actually, that one was later and I haven't watched it yet:

http://video.google.com/ videopla...143451055817989
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:01 am | #

was good stuff, but locked my browser.. so it was watch it thru or close the browser. and yup, Sees much is someone else.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 2:14 am | #

Well Sane the insanity of this little war or what could be better described as a battle is just THAT. We outnumber them by by STUPID odds. It is simply a lack of courage by a lazy majority.PERIOD! The simplicity of it is that we collectively cannot lose but as it is there is no figure person to rally the knowing!
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 2:00 am | #
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This NWO planned issue is a good and bad thing [all their plans/weapons can/will be used against them-they ALWAYS underestimate the human spirit]

bad because we have not declared our sovereignty under the declaration, constitution, bill of rights for a few generations.

good because no matter how many leaders they kill/turn....as jesus predicted...the awakening will need no leaders.

we will need no false gods to tell us what to do, we will simply know.

The elites are slowly realizing this and the ones that are too addicted to power [cheney] are causing so much infighting.

They are promoting escalation of NWO plans and the more patient satanists [rockefeller/rothschild] only want to pull the trigger when there is no doubt of total and complete control.

I think a lot of this is also becomming obvious...shills like Jon Stewart are there to put all the blame on Cheney/Bush and not Gore/Rockefeller/Bryzinfuckhead/Kissinger

Jon-Why are you hurting this country? Please stop, you have a real opportunity to save this country and you do not. How do you sleep at night [he said these same things to the pundits at crossfire]
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:08 am | #

I know many UNION crane operators. At one time I thought they were independent thinkers, especially the Crane Rental types. They are as much sheep by and large as any other segment of the population. They care only for THEIR comfort ZONE, Sane. I was Union for 2 years only because I had to be, I was qualified and was given a "BOOK" cause I had the nuts to run the IRON!
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 1:53 am | #
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Middle tier brother, middle tiers everywhere are getting fucked over. This is the greatest stock of future truthers. They know enough to see the truth and they are having all their toys taken away. They are usually blackmailed but due to healthcare, the invasions of privacy and dumbing and drugging our kids thay are looking for ansers around the MSM saying that nothing is going on or the disinfo artists that give no real answers.

Theis middle level of dissatisfaction and downright anger is moving up at lightning speed and unless someone is at the very top or very bottom, they do want to know things.

Also keep in mind that many people I know want to spit on me sometimes, but I just keep fucking spreading truth.

Over the past 6 months, they are starting to ask me for more and more answers. To be honest I stopped seeking many of them and now they are seeking me.

every pebble you throw in the ocean makes a million mile wave.

Throw in enough pebbles and there will be an awaening of truth accross the world [I think this is becomming more and more obvious].
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:00 am | #

Sane,
My mindset is that violnce is NOT the answer initially. I believe that speaking to people thru love and knowledge are the best weapons--PERIOD. I am well versed in the use of .......however this is not the track we should follow at this time, Sir.
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 1:44 am | #
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Brother, say no more. I think we are completely aligned here.

I also see that most old time truthers have a higher level of communication that does not require much communication. Kind of like some of the latter scenes in the movie "the rock" where everone was well aware of who is a patriot and who is a common criminal. I believe that spending time on this board also reveals this. All of their arguments and techniques are being exposed. This will help us greatly later it is like the training manual at School of the Americas is being exposed all over this board [except for all the torture, poisoning to induce insanity, and child raping in front of their parents of course].

So when it is time for the 300 million to stand up to the 50,000 [max hardcore satanists in the US] with maybe 1,000,000 max unproven "others" [probably will not be used for a hundred years-they are so fricking faulty], it will not even be close.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:52 am | #

Michael D,
I worked Crane Rental for MANY years. Operated the largest crawler crane on this planet for 10 months. I will not subject myself to any inspection of my person. This is not an inditement against you, only my personal choice--Sir. (my spelling sucks at times)
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 1:39 am | #
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FYI - if you know any union guys, please make sure they know about Hillary, she has brokered a deal between NWO and union leaders. Make sure the middle level union guys know this is a fucking sell out. She is working night and day trying to ram this amnesty bill through with Bush/Kennedy
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:44 am | #

There is a time and season for ALL things. Peace and non-violence MAY work however I am not OPTOMISTIC at this point but I will advocate education and peacefull resolution until it becomes NON-viable option's. When it gets to the latter stages then I will pray for our enemies!
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 1:24 am | #
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Don't know if I can be any judge of when violence ends and self-defense starts. But I cannot help but think they really are gunning for us to break out guns.

I just keep spreading truth to military personnel, cops, government personnel, religious leaders, etc. You know the higher up the ladder they are, the more they agree with me. Isn't that odd.

I think the plan is to have some really ignorant people like the ones in the Terrorstorm clips start violent race crimes [they already have done many of these-Manson was one of the biggest ironically].

That is why I also got a bunch of friends in the hood that I talk to and they have NO problem relating to this cause!

Talk to EVERYONE, try it out for yourself. As Cheney/Bush/Ckinton keep running this train off the cliff, more people are waking up.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:37 am | #

It is quite amazing how the peoples/sheep are blinded to the obvious. It has been so for many thousands of years. I have no issue as to the the division they promote, I understand their process. GABE (GAK) is probally correct as to the cure..........We WILL RESIST. Life in the present vehicle we inhabit is temporal. Lick their boot's or resist----your choice.
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 1:32 am | #

There was also a genetically implied news piece on msm tonight about finger length and femininity, as though having feminine hands makes it ok (predisposed) to be queer (so bush or some perv can get yer butt, and you won't make any more useless eaters.........)
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:32 am | #

Have a good, shill free evening. Gotta be at Ford in the morning for drug test and safety orientation (gee, Iwonder if I'll pass the piss test)
and thanks for the recognition. Following my lead will get you heat though........
really looking forward to Live Free or Die Hard...watched shooter on dvd twice this week..
motivation. Dang, gunnie shoots better than me. Practice, practice, practice..........
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:29 am | #

Sexual preferences is a choice, so if you are a fag then you are still human but a fag.
Sony | 06.28.07 - 1:18 am | #
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Well I ain't touching that one, but you should realize that this whole thing is an excuse to:

1. Test all children on mobility/traits/charachteristics/phisical attributes - this is done to separate them as workers/thinkers/fighters/sex slaves [both girls and boys are being tested]/spies/deceivers/etc.

2. Labeling 25% of the children as gay so that they can further invade their privacy and civil liberties in more testing/therepy/drug testing...

The whole NWO eugenics and blackmail project is so anti-freedom I cannot believe it is being done here!

WAKE UP!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:28 am | #

Sane,
I am well familiar with Gabe however I have seen nothing from the others. If I were able to type at a reasonable speed I would contribute more to the thread's as I have studied for MANY years--but I am imprisoned by my lack of mobility Sir. You should continue your contribution's my friend. The veil of darkness is being pulled away!!!!!!
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 1:15 am | #
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Thanks man, also I just found out that the numbers of visitors online has been controlled [I test it at least once a day-don't ask]. They did this when I outed COINTELPRO as moving the surveillance from 25-60 whenever some BS goes down like the attempted slaughtering of the Browns in a Sacrificial Rite to Molech.

Ever I exposed how silly this obvious gov surveillance was, they keep the numbers from 2-15. It is more like 100-200. They do this to try and make us think that we don't make a difference. That is why I use "playback" often to see the differences we make. I can assure you - we are kicking serious ass in the truth department.

Dude they got $100 million budget and 10,000 employees working on subverting our efforts. Unfortunately many employees are disillusioned and the mind control ones' transistors are smoking because millions are posting truth these days.

Anyway, I only type with two fingers when I am not texting from my blackberry
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:24 am | #

Sexual preferences is a choice, so if you are a fag then you are still human but a fag.
Sony | 06.28.07 - 1:18 am | #

Oh yeah, working a major auto plant next week (one of the few still in existence in the US), planning on 100 dvds given out........
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:12 am | #

I know the feeling, the more we can accomplish now, the less we will have to endure later......
I wish some would read "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross, it is the story of how we must deal with the traitors, revolution, before much longer, and details of how to survive it and not get caught..........
Damn magazines, always gotta give 'em a tuneup before they'll work right. My door greeter is now a cabled (attached, locked) mini-14 with handload hollow points and 30 round mags......I know they're coming. Stashed 3 rifles today, got out more of my hand load ammo. Will be buying good Garands later this month with luck........Still want something that shoots their ammo......that one I found with stainless bull barrel and 20 round mags, semi-auto might have a new home soon..... along with a good quality target scope (target knobs)
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:10 am | #
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Sorry, forgot to mention, Michael D. also has some cool shit.

And Visual Vendetta was the first to post Sicko [that I know of] This was a huge win for this board.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:16 am | #

How the hell can Cheney be a free man with enough crimes for the ultimate sentence? He is guilty until proven innocent. That the way he likes it and who elevated him to be the Boss, an untouchable?
Sony | 06.28.07 - 1:16 am | #

.......That will bring me to 2200 given away........
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:15 am | #

Sane continue please. The sheep (singular) Rich has left the building and been put to bed.
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 1:00 am | #
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Here is something I posted on 35 and is another reason for the RFID/Amnesty/National ID Bill:

>>>NWO declares no one has the right to choose sexual preference/All children to be tested for homosexuality

Various Machiavellian projects instrumented by the CIA through various now funded American Universities are being promoted throughout the mainstream media monopoly:

One at Northwestern University involves attaching lights all over a child's joints and then asking them to walk around in the dark. The movements are tracked and analyzed with computer data technology to show gay/straight patterns and then define children as gay/straight. They then track the children to adult life and conclude that they have empirical evidence that patterns in movement and behavior in children can define homosexuality.

The purpose of this now study is to further invade the privacy of families by mandating even more personality/characteristic testing in schools to “tag” children as gay/strait. This will later be used as is the tagging of brilliant students for later NWO projects. It is also to be included in child/DNA/National ID/RFID tracking to further divide the American people by labeling everyone. The importance for NWO in labeling everyone is 2-fold. First for eugenics studies. Second for creating false flags and identifying a specific type as the cause than creating sacrificial wars between identified groups [like a big game of army men].

Refuse these tests on our children wherever you see them. They will be positioned as "we want to identify gayness in your child to better help him/her cope with the world." This insane excuse seems preposterous now, but there is a 2 year media project to get the "BUZZ" out that these types of tests are helpful.

WATCH FOR IT!!!

The Science of Gaydar - New Research on Everything From Voice ...New York Magazine News & Features. Skip to content, or skip to search. ... That’s what we mean by gaydar—not the skill of the viewer so much as the telltale ...
http://nymag.com/news/features/33520/
Molecular Genetic Study of Sexual OrientationResearchers from the Evanston Northwestern Healthcare Research Institute, Northwestern University, University of Chicago, and University of Illinois at ...
http://www.gaybros.com/
What Makes People Gay? - The Boston GlobeAnd now, a large-scale, five-year genetic study of gay brothers is underway ... Researchers at Northwestern University, outside Chicago, are doing this work ...
http://www.boston.com/news/globe...kes_people_gay/
Science behind the stereotype? - Gender non-conformity in ...Gender non-conformity in childhood may predict being gay, study says ... Gerulf Rieger, a psychology doctoral student at Northwestern University, ...
http://www.southernvoice.com/200...onal/ gender.cfm
Bailey and Greenberg to discuss homosexual eugenicsto be held at Northwestern University on April 28, 2005: ... his writings on anti-gay eugenics (the parental prevention of gay children by genetic selection ...
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/...r%204-28- 05.htm
NU PROFESSOR DEFENDS CONTROVERSIAL GAY, TRANS RESEARCH, by Gary ...A skeptical audience gave controversial Northwestern University psychology ... Bailey stated that even if parents chose to avoid having gay children for "a ...
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/...s%205-04- 05.htm
PadillaThe School of Social Work at The University of Texas. ... *A Demographic Approach to the Study of Child Health and Development in the Mexican American ...
http://www.utexas.edu/ssw/facult...aculty/padilla/
Report on bisexuality study angers gay activists - Washington BladeThe study advertised for subjects in a gay newspaper and an alternative newspaper ... Alan Cubbage, vice president of university relations for Northwestern, ...
http://www.washblade.com/2005/7-...onal/ report.cfm
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:14 am | #

Oh yeah, working a major auto plant next week (one of the few still in existence in the US), planning on 100 dvds given out........
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:12 am | #

Larry: So why do you do it?

McClane: Because there is no one else doing it and it has to get done.

I am doing it because I am here, believe me I wish someone else was doing it I really do. But there is no one else and it has to get done.

I know the feeling, the more we can accomplish now, the less we will have to endure later......
I wish some would read "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross, it is the story of how we must deal with the traitors, revolution, before much longer, and details of how to survive it and not get caught..........
Damn magazines, always gotta give 'em a tuneup before they'll work right. My door greeter is now a cabled (attached, locked) mini-14 with handload hollow points and 30 round mags......I know they're coming. Stashed 3 rifles today, got out more of my hand load ammo. Will be buying good Garands later this month with luck........Still want something that shoots their ammo......that one I found with stainless bull barrel and 20 round mags, semi-auto might have a new home soon..... along with a good quality target scope (target knobs)
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:10 am | #

Sorry, I just realized that Sees Things and Sees Much are probably 2 different posters.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:10 am | #

Here are the shills

Anyone who uses dockersunion as their homepage, Rich, Amuzed/I see stupid people...as I see more I will out them.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:07 am | #

Sane continue please. The sheep (singular) Rich has left the building and been put to bed.
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 1:00 am | #

No prob dude, most of my stuff is on pgs 28-35. But you need to look at stuff posted by Tired of the Lies. He has some incredible links posted, light years ahead of anything I have posted. Check his stuff out and RRN and Sees Things, Marcianna, GAK [when he is not drunk], AK48 used to be here and also is light years ahead of me as a truther. Check his stuff out over the past 3 months.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:06 am | #

Sees Things-this is the one actually, that one was later and I haven't watched it yet:

http://video.google.com/ videopla...143451055817989
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:01 am | #

Sane continue please. The sheep (singular) Rich has left the building and been put to bed.
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 1:00 am | #

I watch mainstream news only to read between the lines to see what they're up to.

ART OF WAR

Know your enemy.
Sees Much | 06.28.07 - 12:53 am | #
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Absolutely...GAK, Cop-Killa and others hogtied me and forced me to watch Michael Tsarion [jk].

Take a look at Freeman anfd him. They expose that if you watch MSM at a different frequency level [you know a frequency level where we are awake and not under mind control] the tells are obvious!

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=- 2252069094929951596
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:00 am | #

Old stuff works better anyway and has less RFID nanos!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:52 am | #

yuppers on the new junk and the rfid crud.. and I get better stuff really, sometimes have to fix it too. this disposable culture is a large part of the problem.. it broke, replace with new.. and the corporations look at things the same way.. till they catch flack for child slave labor overseas!!

with all the production overseas, theres lots of unemployed skilled workers, few positions available, -add the laws of supply and demand- gee, how does 5 bucks an hour sound? no? fine, we'll hire rich for 4.90 an hour, he wants and needs a job.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 1:00 am | #

If you want to find out who most of the traitors are, just pull up old press briefings of chimpboy or walking hardon-they confess to us all. Here is a choice piece:

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Thanks for being here. I'm proud to call John Boehner my friend. I know you're proud to call him Congressman. He's doing a great job on the people of this part of the world, and I appreciate serving with him.

I wish Laura were here to see the size of this crowd. (Applause.) She's not going to believe when I tell her how many people came. (Applause.) She's going to say it was just a Texas tall tale. Laura is a great mother, a wonderful wife, a terrific First Lady. (Applause.) I'm going to give you some reasons why I hope you put me back into office today, but perhaps the most important one of all is so that Laura will be the First Lady for four more years. (Applause.)

I'm proud of my running mate, Dick Cheney. (Applause.) Listen, I didn't pick him because of his wavy hair. (Laughter.) I picked him because of his sound judgment, his vast experience. I picked him because he can get the job done. (Applause.)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040828- 2.html
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:56 am | #

Rich,
You are NOT rich-------you are poor of mind and when you collect your check I hope youunderstand that you will recieve 7 fold in repayment. As an aside to this statement, if you are posting that I AM sane under a different screen name you are mistaken. sane simply speaks facts and YOU are a TROLL who offers NOTHING to rebut his post's. Go and collect your pay JUNIOR!
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 12:55 am | #

I watch mainstream news only to read between the lines to see what they're up to.

ART OF WAR

Know your enemy.
Sees Much | 06.28.07 - 12:53 am | #

Also MSNBC runs 4 hours of lock up every night so that we are conditioned to accept prison life as if it is normal. They humanize the prisoners and show how they can have a succesful place in society behind bars. They show how they can be individuals, enjoy freedoms, have nice relationships with guards and they respect each other.

GUYS, GE owns MSNBC and provides most of the infrastructure for Cheney/Halliburton Death Camps.

WAKE UP!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:39 am | #

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yeah I know, commenting on comments here.. I knew a kid that partied too much and did dumbass things to support his habits, to friends and family too.. he'd be let out springtime, play "good boy" then when halloween hit he'd do something stupid so he had room&board thru wintertime.. "on vacation". if the drugs dont kill him, or the people he burns.. the system will. he's a youngin, and all of this garbage is normal to him. for it, all he learns is how to be a better criminal -if he aint dead already.. this is what the war on drugs is FOR !!
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:52 am | #

I dont watch the mainstream news garbage, one of the last things I saw was an AD for chinese cars to be sold in America, I knew it was an AD posing as "news" that only translated to, get ready to be even further unemployed people.
I dont buy "brand new", I dont like the brand new pricetag or the fact its ALL made in CHINA anymore, and I pass on anything new that I can that is chinese made. I know where the profits end up. its a personal boycott for 5 years now.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:44 am | #
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I support your ban of new products until they are made here!

Old stuff works better anyway and has less RFID nanos!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:52 am | #

FOrtunely, I can come back tomorrow. 1) Sane is too stupid to answer anyway. 2) it is 100% certain he will be here no matter when I come back. 3) In 20min a day, I can destroy 20hours of his blather.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 12:31 am | #
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Dude, I look forward to it. BTW - I know you have backed away a bit, sleep well and stay safe. Your employers are truly fucked up.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:41 am | #

AND THIS IS WHAT IS SO INTERESTING: Right after the China bit THEY did a piece on our pathetic overcrowded jails. I believe THEY purposely followed with this piece. It was classic SUBLIMINAL SUGGESTION. They wanted us to make the association between our inefficient system and China's efficient system that is unburdened by humanitarian concerns.
Sees Much | 06.28.07 - 12:34 am | #
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You definitely see much!

Also MSNBC runs 4 hours of lock up every night so that we are conditioned to accept prison life as if it is normal. They humanize the prisoners and show how they can have a succesful place in society behind bars. They show how they can be individuals, enjoy freedoms, have nice relationships with guards and they respect each other.

GUYS, GE owns MSNBC and provides most of the infrastructure for Cheney/Halliburton Death Camps.

WAKE UP!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:39 am | #

ANYONE WATCH ABC NEWS TONIGHT!!!!!!!

They did a piece on how China is coming down hard on industrialists who are using dangerous agents in their products at low cost to increase profits. THEY don't want Chinese products to get a bad rep here since we buy all their crap now. THEY just love China, that's where THEIR doing most of THEIR reinvesting. After THEY implode the US, THEY'LL use the Chinese model to take over the world since of course THEY prefer it. THEY wouldn't want Chinese products to get a bad rep, after all their money is at stake.

THEY SHOWED ONE INDUSTRIALIST BEING SENTENCED TO EXCECUTION

AND THIS IS WHAT IS SO INTERESTING: Right after the China bit THEY did a piece on our pathetic overcrowded jails. I believe THEY purposely followed with this piece. It was classic SUBLIMINAL SUGGESTION. They wanted us to make the association between our inefficient system and China's efficient system that is unburdened by humanitarian concerns.
Sees Much | 06.28.07 - 12:34 am | #

911-Truther make sure to let everyone know the true reason for the RFID/Amnesty bill [hint-it ain't only for amnesty]:

WELCOME TO THE UNHACKABLE NATIONAL ID TECHNOLOGY
RFID Hack Could Allow Retail FraudA German consultant has released a tool that its creator says will allow modifications of the code stored within RFID tags, theoretically allowing consumers ...
http://www.eweek.com/article2/ 0,...,1628696,00.asp
Exxon Mobile SpeedPass Hack via RFIDTired of paying for gas Are you a geek with a laptop, knowledge of the Texas Instruments RFID spec and live near an Exxon Mobile gas station equipped with ...
http://www.marketingshift.com/20...ck-via- rfid.cfm
Wired 14.05: The RFID Hacking UndergroundThey can steal your smartcard, lift your passport, jack your car, even clone the chip in your arm. And you won't feel a thing. 5 tales from the RFID-hacking ...
http://www.wired.com/wired/archi...14.05/ rfid.html
Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise. - Engadgetas far as a retailer not takeing numbers, there are plenty of places that would. the person that is hacking rfid for peoples information is not going to go ...
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/...s-big-surprise/ - 128k
rfid music player - Hack a DayFiled under: misc hacks, portable audio hacks. sid rfid. don't take off your tinfoil hats quite yet, but just when you thought rfid tags were all about the ...
http://www.hackaday.com/2005/03/...d-music-player/
rfid dartmail - Hack a DayThe head of the Dart contains an RFID tag. By waving the tag over the reader, the 'shooter' can attach a handle to any electronic file (located in a shared ...
http://www.hackaday.com/2005/02/.../rfid-dartmail/
The RFID Weblog: Software to Hack RFID TagsImplementation and Application of RFID technology.
http://www.rfid-weblog.com/ 50226...k_rfid_tags.php - 106k
RFID Hack Tool Released at Blackhat--Ridge RFID Hack Could Allow Retail Fraud By Mark Hachman July 29, 2004 LAS VEGAS-A German consultant has released a tool that its creator says will allow ...
http://www.interesting-people.or...8/ msg00012.html
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All of our soldiers now use RFID Tags on their body armor, weapons, Identification, almost every standard issue. How do you think the enemy (directed by Dick Cheney), knows exactly where our kids are????????? The RFID in the military is one of the greatest national security threats around. Soon we will all carry this easily fraudable units. It will have data on our children such as pictures and locations so that whenever an elite gets an urge, whooopppeeeee

For more on how elites "pick" the abductable child before they are abducted using creative surveillance read the Franklin Cover-Up or watch Conspiracy of Silence.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...110250157218995
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Con...racy_of_Silence
http://www.rense.com/general61/ a...onspiracyof.htm
http://www.franklincase.org/silence.htm
http://www.thelawparty.com/Frank...linCover- up.htm
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ f...upexcerpt.shtml
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...4johndecamp.htm
http://www.franklincase.org/

The elites truly love our children. They want to eat them up and love them to death.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:34 am | #

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amen
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 12:33 am | #

Sane, - this is your idea of Cheney's hatred of JEws??????
Rich | 06.28.07 - 12:29 am | #

Yes, it is just as much a hatred of j's as Guiliani's recruiting of pawn black leaders exposes a hatred of lower class blacks and Bush's tricking the christian right and televangestist shows contempt of christianity [that and child sacrifices to Molech].
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:33 am | #

awritie then!!

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Patrick | 06.28.07 - 12:29 am | #

Sane, I noticed you failed to answer the direct question of how you are NEVER NOT HERE. Perhaps you would explain it now, since YOU ARE HERE. Well, you are NEVER not here. So, you are here. Explain why you never leave. EVER.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 12:20 am | #
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I apologize for not answering and I believe that this is a fair question. For a while I really could not answer this question completely...

But I just gor out of seeing "Live Free or Die Hard" and there was a dialogue that made me cry in the middle of the theater.

I do not really care how you try to spin this post, I am just gonna let you know what happened.

McClane [sic?] was in the car with the hacker sidekick. I think his name was Larry, I am terrible with the names and this will be off but it is how I remember it:

Larry: Why are you doing this? Why are you trying to be a hero?

McClane: Believe me kid, this ain't about being a hero. A hero gets written off to live in some hole, divorced, kids don't talk to ya...

Larry: So why do you do it?

McClane: Because there is no one else doing it and it has to get done.

I am doing it because I am here, believe me I wish someone else was doing it I really do. But there is no one else and it has to get done.

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Anyway, I was balling like a baby and could not wait to lose more sleep by posting truth.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:29 am | #

Founded as a study group in the mid-1970s aimed at learning the lessons of the 1973 Yom Kippur War—which included ensuring the that United States would come to the assistance of Israel in a conflict—JINSA transformed itself into a "defense education group" in 1979 that endeavors to create strong ties between the U.S. and Israeli militaries.

JINSA joined a chorus of neoconservatives in and out of the Bush administration, like former Pentagon number two Paul Wolfowitz, in arguing that Iraq should be a target of the war.

Richard Perle, James Woolsey, and Kenneth Timmerman. Dick Cheney, John Bolton, Douglas Feith,

According to its website, JINSA's core annual activities include "sponsoring a trip for retired United States Flag and General Officers to Israel and a study program in Israel for cadets and midshipmen from the Naval Academy, the Military Academy at West Point, and the Air Force Academy. JINSA also arranges interchanges between Pentagon officials and Jewish community leadership and sponsors lectures and conferences at the national military academies and leading national security think tanks.

Sane, - this is your idea of Cheney's hatred of JEws??????

Oops - you been punked, AGAIN
Rich | 06.28.07 - 12:29 am | #

funny as all hell, rich probably thinks I'm you sane

ROFLLMAO
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:24 am | #

Sane, we cant talk about Cheney. You already tried and lost badly and got real angry. You can lose again.

Explain in detail Cheney's relationship with JINSA AND ISRAEL.

Explain in detail why only JEws are ABOVE BEING ILLUMINATI, and gentiles are the most deeply illuminati contaminated.

OOPS. now you will have to spam more.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 12:23 am | #

Dude, Hail Maries don't work when you never moved the ball an inch the entire game.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:19 am | #

GOTCHA !! lol
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:23 am | #

Sane talking to his sockpuppets again. Sane #1-#20 all like each other. Who would have guessed all sane's different posting names would be friends.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 12:21 am | #

the playbook is the same as was nazi germany in the late 30's and the same players.. son, grandson DUBYA.. are at the helm here now. operation paperclip was just shifting the bastards to a stronger base of operations, the US.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:21 am | #

REAL 9-11 Truth sticks to every-man basic issues that will LEAD TO THE GOAL, of an open, honest public investigation of 9-11. Your WILD FANTASTIC STORIES are INTENDED to make it sound crazy and scare people away.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 12:18 am | #

Yes, sweet. Stick to the main issues and you are welcome here. Try to stick any race on the Cheney/Halliburton Guillotine trains to the Cheney/Halliburton death camps and I will expose your intentions.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:21 am | #

you know when theres 5 seconds on the clock and you have 75 yards to go to win the game?
what do you do rich?
HAIL MARY | 06.28.07 - 12:17 am | #

Begs for a BOTTLE or Sucks his thumb. 5TH Group Rich!

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FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 12:20 am | #

you know when theres 5 seconds on the clock and you have 75 yards to go to win the game?
what do you do rich?
HAIL MARY | 06.28.07 - 12:17 am | #

ROTFL LMAO

Dude, Hail Maries don't work when you never moved the ball an inch the entire game.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:19 am | #

As Alex Jones frequently mentions.. NO ONE IN THE 9-11 TRUTH MOVEMENT, actively supports your magical planes, micro-nukes, space rays, ect. - these ARE ALL KNOWN AS MATERIAL OF DISINFORMATION SPAMMERS hoping to rot the movement from within.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 12:16 am | #
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Uh, I never said anything about micronukes or space rays. As far as missles that can look like planes, please direct me to the mp3 or article where AJ says this.

Perhaps you have missed the BIG NEWS???
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:18 am | #

you know when theres 5 seconds on the clock and you have 75 yards to go to win the game?
what do you do rich?
HAIL MARY | 06.28.07 - 12:17 am | #

Sane sure is getting extremely angry about how rich exposed him as a lying fraud. Sane is spamming like mad trying to bury all this so people dont see him for what he is. I think sane will succeed. He lives with a bucket under his chair for the feces and never moves day or night. His entire life 18 hours a day is spent on Alex Jones threads telling lies.
Laffytaffy | 06.28.07 - 12:11 am | #

Shut up, get against the wall, do as your told or they will put a bullet in YOUR head. Read about the NAZIS and compare yourself to history junior. Your head was not designed primarily as a hat rack. It is a container for a BRAIN! USE YOUR BRAIN MORON!

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FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 12:16 am | #

WHO IS DANIEL WALLACE? What's a "Kerry moment"? PLEASE LOBBY AGAINST THIS HORRORIBLE AMNESTY BILL AND NOW! MAKE SURE YOU ALL CALL YOUR SENATORS IN MORNING BEFORE 9AM ET. AND KEEP CALLING! DEMAND THEY VOTE AGAINST CLOSURE AND IF CLOSURE IS INVOKED THEN VOTE DOWN THIS MOTHERFUCKING TREASONOUS BILL AND NOW! WE CAN NOT, NOT CHANCE IT PASSING IN HOUSE! ANYONE VOTING FOR THIS AMNESTY BILL IS AN OUT AND OUT TREASONOUS TRAITOR WHO IS OUT TO DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN! PERIOD! GOD, WE SO DESEPERATELY NEED A REAL REVOLUTION AND HAVE FOR ALONG TIME NOW! I pray the sheeple wake up NOW and raise up BIG TIME AND NOW!
9-11 truther | 06.28.07 - 12:10 am | #
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Here ya go ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMkkA16mNJk&eurl=

He was executed 2 hours before a scheduled meeting with the Loose Change producers.

He found out the Silverfuckhead [what is with Murdoch and Silverrsteinfuckhead marrying asian teenagers anyway?] got a phone call on 9/11 not to have breakfast with his daughter as they ALWAYS do on top of the tower.

He then scurried away before the attacks.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:16 am | #

Sane? Is that you? How can I be so fortunate? That you would happen to be here. Oh wait. You are NEVER NOT HERE. Why is that? Oops. a direct quesion. You never answer those. Your answer would be undead alien computer generated illuminati nazi conspiracy. Better spam instead.
Rich | 06.28.07 - 12:15 am | #

ROFL how rich keeps changing names like a crackhead, dude, put the pipe down and go do some homework.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:14 am | #

Thank you, Rich! You do a great job. We can all now be certain that sane and all his other names he uses talking to himself about how wonderful he is are just megaphone zionists who hate america.
Horrible Harry | 06.28.07 - 12:13 am | #

Sure is easy to see which names are just Sane against changing his name. All they care about is offerinf sane flattery or echoing his adhominem against people who exposed sane as a fraud. Good thing sane will always be here every minute of every day to demonstrate this for himself. Good thing sane does not have a boss looking over his shoulder at how he is being laughed at as an amateur bungler who was caught spamming disinformation.
Crazy Lary | 06.28.07 - 12:09 am | #

Rich, at least think of less obvious nicks. I bet I know your next chess move [if not, guess I am just giving it to you ... uh-oh maybe a trap].

You will use my nick as if you were me and post some BS that everyone will realize is not from me. Whoopee.

Guess you have now officially declared total surrender.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:13 am | #

What a loon.
Rich | 06.27.07 - 11:54 pm | #

YOU WILL SOON LEARN WHO THE LOON IS, BOY.
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 12:10 am | #

SANE, Everyone here knows my stand on 9/11 and how all inquiries are a sham and how Daniel Wallace and Hunter S. Thompson were EXECUTED by Rockefeller/CFR/Kissinger [here comes another Kerry moment]/AEI/Dick & Lynn Cheney's Black Ops to stop any inquiry.

WHO IS DANIEL WALLACE? What's a "Kerry moment"? PLEASE LOBBY AGAINST THIS HORRORIBLE AMNESTY BILL AND NOW! MAKE SURE YOU ALL CALL YOUR SENATORS IN MORNING BEFORE 9AM ET. AND KEEP CALLING! DEMAND THEY VOTE AGAINST CLOSURE AND IF CLOSURE IS INVOKED THEN VOTE DOWN THIS MOTHERFUCKING TREASONOUS BILL AND NOW! WE CAN NOT, NOT CHANCE IT PASSING IN HOUSE! ANYONE VOTING FOR THIS AMNESTY BILL IS AN OUT AND OUT TREASONOUS TRAITOR WHO IS OUT TO DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN! PERIOD! GOD, WE SO DESEPERATELY NEED A REAL REVOLUTION AND HAVE FOR ALONG TIME NOW! I pray the sheeple wake up NOW and raise up BIG TIME AND NOW!
9-11 truther | 06.28.07 - 12:10 am | #

Yes, that Rich guy sure exposed Sane for what he is, a Zionist Megaphone spammer of lies and disinformation. And you are right that - sane IS ALWAYS HERE - every moment all days of the week to respond within SECONDS, that is so strange. That proves he is planted here like a tree to span nonsense against the whole thread to try and drive all the people away who have any sense.
Happy Dan | 06.28.07 - 12:06 am | #

Lucky thing that sane happend to be here right now. What are the odds of that? That sane is always here, every day, day and night, to respond within moments, then moments later, the names change, so people can agree with him as the leader of mankind and a great messiah. it is almost like, an active ongoing disinformation effort.. being done by person or persons who look really INCOMPOTENT right now, since they are being talked about for what they are, when it was supposed to be covert and tricking people.
Fred Flintostone | 06.28.07 - 12:04 am | #

Yeah, that sane sure is a fool. He loses every argument. All he does is make ad hominem fallacy, then ask what ad hominem means.
Tiny Tim | 06.28.07 - 12:02 am | #

Thanks for confirming that Sane, and his dozen other names here are frauds sent here to discredit Alex Jones.
Ben and Jerry | 06.28.07 - 12:00 am | #
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C'mon Rich, are you reaching a new low????

Reminds me of Robert Downy, Jr. in less than zero.

You have now avoided all forms of argument and are again doing exactly what you accuse me of. This is too frickin funny.

Now I know what you will soon implement as it will be whatever moronic stuff you accuse me of. I read bryzfuckhead's "Grand Chessboard." This machavelian crap is way too old dude.

How can you possibly spend this much time and energy denying 300 million Americans their rights to freedom with this type of behavios. How do you sleep at night Rich?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:08 am | #

Sane,
pretty good thinkin dude, whats the real solution without stooping to their level,sane, Gabe, chris,wut do we do to return to life,liberty and the pursuit of HAPPINESS?
can't we just declare autonamy, then become a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal
Ladies and Gentlemen,officers of liberty,the future
of whats left of America is dependent on the LORD and His mercy, I think we may be given places of refuge but only by the Holy Spirits literally telling us where to go,when to stop etc,
think about it~~and plu-ese tell me what you other bible readers think
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 12:03 am | #

STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, BROTHER!

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FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 12:08 am | #

9-11 truther | 06.28.07 - 12:05 am | #

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already told 2 chatrooms about it and gave em the PP link to whats up.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:07 am | #

What a loon.
Rich | 06.27.07 - 11:54 pm | #

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ROFL the attacks, I havent seen "ricky" post any links to back up his babblings, even a PP article to comment about. hmm, rich, richard, dick, CHENEY !! yeah thats it, rich is DICK CHENEY HIMSELF.. trying to discredit sane and stir the drama so no one looks to the great links he posts here!
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:06 am | #

Sees Things, Please Get ALL to lobby against this horrorible immigration/amnesty bill! PLEASE HELP SAVE AMERICA AND NOW! Get lots to call tomorrow OK? Please? We MUST STOP this horrorible legislation and NOW! Or America is done for! Read my other posts on how bad it is Tell the bastards in Senate NOT to vote for closure but if closure is invoked to vote this fuckign treasonous bill down and NOW! We can NOT chance House possibly voting it down! RAISE HELL WITH FUCKING HARRY REID TOO AND NOW! AND WITH OTHER TRAITORS IN SENATE! TELL THEM HOW FUCKING HORRORIBLE IT IS TOO! TELL THEM ABOUT HOW CHILD MOLESTOR'S GET AMNESTY TOO! AND ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS WITH TIES TO TERRORISM GET AMENSTY! DON'T BELIEVE THEM WHEN THEY SAY THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN BILL THEN THEY GODDAMN SHOULD NOT,NOT BE VOTING FOR THE BILL PERIOD! I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THOSE LYING MOTHERFUCKER'S SAY THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE FUCKING BILL! IT'S BULLSHIT AND LIES! WE NEED AN OUT AND OUT REAL REVOLUTION AND NOW!
9-11 truther | 06.28.07 - 12:05 am | #

TinyTim,
Stay in your TINY box. Your screen name say's what it say's about YOU!
FinalChance in Texas | 06.28.07 - 12:05 am | #

Lucky thing that sane happend to be here right now. What are the odds of that? That sane is always here, every day, day and night, to respond within moments, then moments later, the names change, so people can agree with him as the leader of mankind and a great messiah. it is almost like, an active ongoing disinformation effort.. being done by person or persons who look really INCOMPOTENT right now, since they are being talked about for what they are, when it was supposed to be covert and tricking people.
Fred Flintostone | 06.28.07 - 12:04 am | #

A (fallacious) ad hominem argument has the basic form:
Person A makes claim X
There is something objectionable about Person A
Therefore claim X is falseBullshit is bullshit, no matter how many big woerds are used. This shallow trickery is a staple of Cheney/Rove/AEI as they explain the BS surge I and surge II, when we all know the only reason for it is to create more domestic death squads and protect Cheney's oil.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 11:09 pm | #

Sane,
pretty good thinkin dude, whats the real solution without stooping to their level,sane, Gabe, chris,wut do we do to return to life,liberty and the pursuit of HAPPINESS?
can't we just declare autonamy, then become a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal
Ladies and Gentlemen,officers of liberty,the future
of whats left of America is dependent on the LORD and His mercy, I think we may be given places of refuge but only by the Holy Spirits literally telling us where to go,when to stop etc,
think about it~~and plu-ese tell me what you other bible readers think
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 12:03 am | #

Rich | 06.27.07 - 11:54 pm | #
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Holy shit such a long post and you only used zion/zionist/jinsa/jew/israel once!

Good puppy, you are learning. Did your puppetmasters tell you that since you totally fucked up that argument and the ad-hominem argument that you now must resort to just actually using ad-hominem attacks. I love COINTELPRO shills, accuse someone of something, then do that very thing that you accused them of. Here are some examples:

Dick Cheney - "Democrats do not support our troops"

AEI - "Liberal Media controls the content so that the truth will not be seen in the mainstream."

etc. etc.

And dude, I pray to all that I kn ow that we will have an independent investigation into 9/11.

Everyone here knows my stand on 9/11 and how all inquiries are a sham and how Daniel Wallace and Hunter S. Thompson were EXECUTED by Rockefeller/CFR/Kissinger [here comes another Kerry moment]/AEI/Dick & Lynn Cheney's Black Ops to stop any inquiry.

Why don't you go ask one of them why there was no investigation?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:03 am | #

Yeah, that sane sure is a fool. He loses every argument. All he does is make ad hominem fallacy, then ask what ad hominem means.
Tiny Tim | 06.28.07 - 12:02 am | #

Thanks for confirming that Sane, and his dozen other names here are frauds sent here to discredit Alex Jones.
Ben and Jerry | 06.28.07 - 12:00 am | #

Please ALL spread word on how treasonous immigration amnesty bill really is and FAST! AND NOW! AND GIVE MASSES PHONE NUMBERS TO CALL TOO! Here is link for individual phone numbers too if other number is busy! RAISE HELL AND NOW! AND RAISE HELLW ITH FUCKING TREASONOUS HARRY REID TOO! AND NOW! AND WITH REST OF MFING TRAITORS TOO,EXCEPT THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST IT! http://www.senate.gov/general/ co...enators_cfm.cfm
9-11 truther | 06.28.07 - 12:00 am | #

yup, food AND drug administration
first they "administer" the bad food
then they "administer" the bad drugs

this wouldnt be in conflict of interest ... naaw..

had fun earlier with that fat letter of discontent of the US "administration" of bush's and clintons.. wasnt enough room for much on illegal immigration. was a bit on the "war on drugs" and the growth of the nazi police state. copy/paste and send it where it counts.. or describe it as you see things personally.. hell, I know I just rant sometimes, oops!
Sees Things | 06.27.07 - 11:58 pm | #

ALL, CALL YOUR SENATORS TODAY AND CALL TOMORROW BEFORE 9AM! WE MUST, MUST STOP THIS FUCKING TREASONOUS AMNESTY BILL NOW! IT WILL DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN AND ANYONE VOTING FOR IT IS AND OUT AND OUT TRAITOR! PERIOD! RAISE HOLY HELL WITH FUCKING TREASONOUS HARRY REID TOO! WHO IS SPONSOR OF BILL! DEMAND HE SCRAP THIS MOTHERFUCKING TREASONOUS BILL AND NOW! DEMAND YOUR SENATOR VOTE AGAINST CLOSURE AND ALSO IF CLOSURE IS INVOKED, VOTE DOWN THIS MF'ING BILL AND NOW! In it, illegal aliens with terrorists ties have AMNESTY! WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU SHEEPLE WHO STILL BELIEVE THE BULLSHIT GOV'T FAIRYTALE OF HOW 9-11 HAPPENNED? Also, we taxpayer's would have to pay for tuition of illegal aliens too and H1B visas would increase too which means more layoffs of white collar workers! Plus, bill puts on fast track SPP too which would wipe out America TOO! STOP THIS MOTHERFUCKING TREASONOUS BILL AND NOW! GET ALL TO CALL THEIR SENATORS TOMORROW AND DEMAND THE TREASONOUS BASTARDS STOP THIS BILL! And Thank Senator Sessions and Senator's Demint and McCaskill too! Call 1-202-224-3121, and urge your Rep too to STOP This bill NOW! ITS TREASONOUS AND WOULD WIPE AMERICA OUT AND ALSO IT HAS IN IT WHERE CHILD SEXUAL MOLESTOR'S ARE GIVEN AMNESTY TOO, THE CURRENT AND PAST ONES!
9-11 truther | 06.27.07 - 11:57 pm | #

Rich,
YOUR A PUNK. When you collect your 20 pieces of silver do you back-up to your master THE FED TO GET YOUR BASTARD PAY. do you feel warm and fuzzy? YOU LITTLE BITCH, GO COLLECT YOUR PAY YOU WHORE!!!!!!! Your a Punk and Paid for!!!!!!!!!
FinalChance in Texas | 06.27.07 - 11:56 pm | #

SANE,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, SIR! FUCK THE BITCHES!
FinalChance in Texas | 06.27.07 - 11:55 pm | #

Sane, how many sockpuppet names you use? You are such a joke. You lose every debate you enter. You MADE UP A STORY. This is key to you. You KNOW EVERYTHING before you begin. You are just like the amateur in religion. You BEGIN knowing everything, THEN - seek to prove it.

When asked about a politician, you NEVER research anything. What the person has done or not done, never comes into play. You just take a moment and think, 'What does this person NEED TO BE - to make my Illuminati Nazi conspiracy work... hmm.. oh WHAT LUCK.. the person is that."

How do I know? Well, that is really the one east part. I AM ME. Nice thing about being ME, since I AM ME, is I know ALL ABOUT ME. When Me BEING ME, needs to know ABOUT ME, there is no WHAT IF even possible. There is no room for mistake or illusion, cause I AM ME.

So - what was I again, in your fantasy. It was quite flattering. I am a Grand Pooba 33rd World Mind-controller Illuminati Mason master? Gee.. I think that is flattering. Well, more like, I tore you a new ass every time you say anything, so in your fantasy.. ONLY SATAN HIMSELF could bitch slap you around like that...

What a wacko you are.

Invisible planes? It is not about.. is it possible. It is not about, is it true. Those things are not important. What is important is 2 main factors. 1) CAN YOU KNOW IT IF IT IS TRUE 2) Does talking about it, further or harm, the 9-11 Truth movement as a whole.

As Alex Jones frequently mentions.. NO ONE IN THE 9-11 TRUTH MOVEMENT, actively supports your magical planes, micro-nukes, space rays, ect. COULD THEY BE TRUE? Sure, truth is a strange thing. Scret government technology. But as pointed out, EVEN IF IT WERE, you HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING IT, besides making up what you WANT TO SEE, as you are known for.

What matters is, real world, every-man things. Things that lead to the GOAL. What is the GOAL? the GOAL is a large scale PUBLIC INVESYIGATION OF 9-11.

That is why the collapse of building 7 is important. That is why where Cheney was is important.

The ONLY GOAL - is to bring the investigation into HONEST HANDS.

So, you are not only a KNOWN Zionist Jewish Supremacist Anti-gentile racist. you are also a 9-11 Inside Job DISINFORMATION TRAITOR.. you seek to DRIVE HONEST PEOPLE AWAY from every man issues of the cause, and LIE TO THEM, you LIE TO THEM, that the 9-11 Truth REAL INVESTIGATORS, support your BABBLING NONSENSE. Take your alien invasion invisible undead Nazis illuminati crap, and stuff it up your ass where IT CAME FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

By the way - you need MORE sock puppet names. See, by using same names too much, people can list the TIMES OF DAY, and DAYS OF WEEK, you post on the Alex threads. Pretty odd, you are here, EVERY DAY, at ALL HOURS OF THE DAY.

(This is where you try and lie - cause you know you are BUSTED ON THIS TOO - that you are 'posting from work') OH YOU ARE POSTING FROM WORK, we agree on that... as a FULL TIME 'Megaphone site thread spammer' which is your job.

SANE (+his 40 other names who show up immediately to tell him how much he admires himself) = THE ALEX JONES DININFORAMTION SPUD

Oh, wait, no, that is me! I am the disinformation spud. Just ask SANE, he exposed me as the 33rd circle black bishop world comptroller, or whatever his psycho naming shit was.

What a loon.
Rich | 06.27.07 - 11:54 pm | #

Jake...you're sounding like a new-ager here. What's up with that.
Marcianne | 06.27.07 - 11:46 pm | #
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If we all sing KUMBAYA in a circle, world evil will go away.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 11:49 pm | #

Peace to all and may the light guide your way to safety
Jake | 06.27.07 - 10:58 pm | #
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Jake...you're sounding like a new-ager here. What's up with that.
Marcianne | 06.27.07 - 11:46 pm | #

FDA says unmoved by aspartame- cancer report
Sees Things | 06.27.07 - 11:24 pm | #
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Well someone needs to MOVE THEM out of the way of food, drugs, and administration. The whole agency is commited to killing us in a slow bleed and prevent true medicine from appearing [except for E.D. cures]
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 11:44 pm | #

http://infowars.net/articles/jun...7/ 270607FDA.htm

FDA says unmoved by aspartame- cancer report

well of course!! if they cant put CRAP in the food then they cant sell as many CRAPPY DRUGS for it later on.
Sees Things | 06.27.07 - 11:24 pm | #

At least we don't believe in lies and orchestrated lies. I'm starting to see that just maybe, there were no passenger deaths in those fake photos of jets melting into towers. Lord knows, not a skull or a bone fragment of the passengers at the Pentagon showed up ?
Gator | 06.27.07 - 10:52 pm | #

yup, your eyes are opening
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 11:16 pm | #

A (fallacious) ad hominem argument has the basic form:
Person A makes claim X
There is something objectionable about Person A
Therefore claim X is false
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Dude I point to your exact statements not you as a person. Every time you lie, I call it a lie and give supporting evidence. Please do more research into logical reasoning. The people on this board are not so limited in their skills that they cannot look this up themselves and see that the sho don't fit.

I know that disinformationalists like to use latin argument phrases to somehow diffuse truth from hiting the masses. You know phrases like: Accent / Ad hoc / Affirmation of the consequent / Amphiboly / Anecdotal evidence / Argumentum ad antiquitatem / Argumentum ad baculum / Appeal to force / Argumentum ad crumenam / Argumentum ad hominem / Argumentum ad ignorantiam / Argumentum ad lazarum / Argumentum ad logicam / Argumentum ad misericordiam / Argumentum ad nauseam / Argumentum ad novitatem / Argumentum ad numerum / Argumentum ad populum / Argumentum ad verecundiam / Audiatur et altera pars / Bifurcation / Circulus in demonstrando / Complex question / Fallacy of interrogation / Fallacy of presupposition / Fallacies of composition / Converse accident - Hasty generalization -Converting a conditional / Cum hoc ergo propter hoc / Denial of the antecedent / The fallacy of accident / Sweeping generalization /Dicto simpliciter / Fallacy of division / Equivocation - Fallacy of four terms / The extended analogy / Ignoratio elenchi - Irrelevant conclusion / The Natural Law fallacy - Appeal to Nature / The "No True Scotsman..." fallacy / Non causa pro causa / Non sequitur / Petitio principii - Begging the question / Plurium interrogationum - Many questions / Post hoc ergo propter hoc / Red herring / Reification / Hypostatization / Shifting the burden of proof / The slippery slope argument / Straw man / Tu quoque / Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle / "A is based on B" fallacies / "...is a type of..." fallacies

But with the internet, people can look this shit up and see that it is a weak attempt to lie about a logical argumentative structure by spouting off "big words" as if people will feel insecure about their intelligence level and scurry like cockaroaches when the lights go on. Unfortunately these guys have been fucked over for generations by the likes of you "intellectually superior" elites and we realize the secret:

Bullshit is bullshit, no matter how many big woerds are used. This shallow trickery is a staple of Cheney/Rove/AEI as they explain the BS surge I and surge II, when we all know the only reason for it is to create more domestic death squads and protect Cheney's oil.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 11:09 pm | #

All or most the blogs subjects might seem impotant but all this interresting exchange of opinions will not push away 2012.

Consciousness about time some start spending and investing there time understanding what has begun and what is coming, no place to hide!!!!!

Spirituality is your only saving realm. The Universal laws are there to stay and so are the spiritual laws.

As a species we have generally ignored them.

Now with only years to prepare to the transition many are loosing time talking about things like :

Could Barbara Olson Have Made Those Calls?

Proof has not need to be done , for many now know the reality behind 911.

The cabal is desperate and are making a move in dispare trying to kill as much humans as possible.

Awareness time folks. Denial won't get you out of this major problem we all got ourselves in.

Peace to all and may the light guide your way to safety
Jake | 06.27.07 - 10:58 pm | #

a giant idiot ad hominem fallacy.
Rich | 06.27.07 - 10:11 pm | #

Again, do you even know what this means?
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:54 pm | #

Rich is a pawn for a Rep/Dem candidate that is attempting to relate RP to the American Nazi Party [similar setup like the one fictionalized in "Death to Smoochy"]. When he was called out on this and went running around like a headless chicken with cries of shame, he had to think up personal attacks on anything the posters who outed him said [I being one of them]. After attempting to catch me in "Kerry moments" then repeated these sentence fragments ad infinitum, I called him out on again lack of logic, evidence, references, or truth of any kind. This finally had him so dazed with his failure that he is now trying to say I am a jesus in some [for the 3rd time] shallow attempt to dissuade truth from being heard. Like the other 2 times, he will fail at this too. To Bad we are not playing baseball, otherwise he would be out

a giant idiot ad hominem fallacy.

Debate over, you lost.

as expected.

For reference look at the last 3 days on the 33rd thread (just start here and then look at any other post by Rich going upward. It really gets surreal near the end. If you are loo lazy just look at the last 20 posts or so on the 33rd thread.[wow 33rd, hmmm...]:
Rich | 06.27.07 - 10:11 pm | #
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Dude, thanks for the acknowledgement!
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:49 pm | #

You are such an easy chump to slap down, with your Jewish Supremacy bullshit. Jews - always right. not Jews = Illuminati Nazis THE PHILOSOPHY OF SANE. -how deep-you are a Zionist, and ashamed of it, which is the only right things about you. you SHOULD be ashamed
Rich | 06.27.07 - 10:16 pm | #
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Back to theater of the absurd again, huh. You study Ionesco with Camus at the School of the Americas. Are some of the South American Kissinger death squaders your colleagues [uh-oh another Kerry moment I mentioned the big Illuminati-Zionist Kissinger, guess this will be repeated 100 times. Who gives a fuck??? Kissinger is so fucking evil and he is BUFU buddies of Bush and Cheney and Johnny Gosh/Jeff Gannon].

What is that JINSA??????

Dude Cheney has only one master-Satan. He takes orders from the Energy/MIC heads. Why would you ever think anything else?

This is where he gets his money. This is who he keeps protecting. This is where his wife works-AEI. Are ou saying Cheney is a jew, well if he is, he must be a traitor as he has put Israel/Iran in the crosshairs of the upcomming nuke false flag that EVERYONE knows about.

He also is working desperately on tying 9/11 truth to an anti-semitic movement. "the jews did 9/11" is the Cheney doctrine. AIPAC/ADL/etc. are moving Israel and jews toward the concentration camps on Cheney's orders. Cheney is totally entwined with these lobbying powers that take orders from NWO Energy/ MIC/Pharma firms.

See Sicko and see how sick these people are. See Iraq for sale and Moyers Secret Government and Conspiracy of Silence.

These guys are totally into SATAN and nothing else. 99.9% of the population are slated to be slaughtered. Read something and get another job. You seem somewhat talented, I'm sure you could unless they kill you because you know too much.

But then again they could just erase your memory
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:47 pm | #

SANE, you were offered numerous exact questions. -Rich
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Really, I was "offered" questions??????

Wow, thank you oh wise Plato for offering me such delicious baited questions like how many jews this and how many jews that. You sound like an IBM jew calculation machine.

Vear are all ze judens???
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:36 pm | #

part 1

Mainstream Media, the so called "NEWS" owned by a small handfull of corporations, omits the truth and lies to the people.
this is WHY there is a truth movement going strong online.

this is also WHY the corporations are lobbying to regulate the internet, "THEY" the corporations and the government that serves THEM, do not want the people informed with the TRUTH.

when the corporations have more influence over the government than the people, this is known as fascism.
when the news doesnt tell people the truth..
this is known as mind controlling propaganda.

look to the results of the polls, people know whats going on.
We The People, are NOT happy with this situation and the induviduals that are supposed to be representing US.

the US military is being dismantled and the UN military is being beefed up. Halliburton/KBR/Blackwater mercenary troops in the middle east are 1/3 of the forces over there, doing things our own military are forbidden to do, and making things far more dangerous for the LEGITEMATE armed forces who are there fighting because of corporate GREED, not "freedom".

all of OUR infrastructure is being sold to foreign interests, the roadways, water companies, utilities, and more. corporate welfare (3x what the people ever get) granted to companies to leave the country, to leave people HERE unemployed, is definitely unAmerican and outright treasonous. the politicians selling public property as if it were theirs personally!

THESE THINGS are why "the corporate government" wants to control the internet, so "they" can keep getting rich as they turn what was a free country into even MORE a fascist slave state than it already is. ALL the "LAWS" need to be reviewed, and anything against the constitution needs to be tossed.

I'm not the only one who understands how all this came about, this serfdom and slavery MESS.. all the courtrooms are flying a MARITIME LAW FLAG with the GOLD FRINGE, because a baby comes from the MOTHERS WATER ... through the BIRTH CANAL and into this country by way of a PORTMASTER who issues the receipt known as a birth certificate, so we are regarded as property, not citizens!! its LAWYERSPEAK !!

it's all the same reasons there was a revolution here for independance some 230 years ago, and actually a whole lot worse than what KING GEORGE was demanding back then.
if it comes to that I hope it is peaceful, the other way is ugly.
(and probably more likely)

Halliburton/KBR/Blackwater has some 800 FEMA CAMPS built and waiting that can hold maybe 20 million people, is the truth the media will not tell us, this wouldnt remind me of NAZI GERMANY at all (yeah right) and was all no-bid contracted by DICK CHENEY, former CEO of Halliburton, which has just moved to DUBAI.. near to Middle East OIL for some reason.

and were supposed to live in fear of "the terrorists" while we give up all our freedoms, as the southern border is wide open with 30 odd million illegal residents are here making demands!
(we already HAVE good immigration and naturalization laws)
the Mexican government is a corporate fascist state that is crying about people from there, can come here and purchase weapons too easily, that the US needs tougher gun control laws.
-which is only because the people there DO resist the tyranny.
I honestly feel as bad for the people there as the people here, the only difference being people here are far more unaware of the fascisms for having their heads in the sand, much of this is for the controlled news media, but the truth IS getting out and is unstoppable. choices will be made, procrastinated of course.
Sees Things | 06.27.07 - 10:34 pm | #

part 2

I wouldnt know if you are a "good guy" or a "bad guy" regarding this New World Order.. one world government all controlled by corporate interests, all I know is global slavery and serfdom is NOT a good thing, Hitler tried it, he was funded by globalist "elite" bankers.. prescott bush was one of them.
(theres a TON more dirt on that BUSH FAMILY, skull and bones, bohemian grove, rockefellers, rothschilds, black nobility, etc.)
I also know serving these types of masters is a one way ticket to hell, history repeats itself and these plans ALWAYS fail!

(sidenote: operation paperclip after WW2 was to bring slave killing rocket scientists to the US so we could have NASA, and also "social engineers" who's specialties are mind control and propaganda. during WW2, wealthier 'jews' were about extorted to be able to leave germany, the only destination allowed was what is now known as ISREAL, where they had total control. the "STATE of ISREAL" has seats in congress and lobbyists from hell.. keep this NAZI connection in mind.)

the use of Depleted Uranium munitions in the middle east is scorched earth inhuman genocidal crimes against humanity, this only proves the "war" there is about the OIL, not for us to have and use it, but to keep it in the ground creating an artificial shortage to keep prices UP, no one gonna want to work the derricks there to glow in the dark and die of radiation poisoning to make someone else richer, period.

this "business as usual" has to stop sometime, and I really dont think the solution is instigating world war three (or four as the "elite" call it because the 3rd one is the economic warfare that is going on right now) and this "New World Order" junk is only more of the same, "business as usual". I know the plan is to wipe out some 90% of the global population and control what's left.. and all of it NAZI/FASCIST style with its alphabet soup of FBI CIA NSA KGB SS EU NAU UN etc etc. and its wrong!

http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanm.../ stanmeyer.html
-get a look at this, he was murdered for it.

the whole New World Order / Illuminati motto is order out of chaos.. create the chaos and create order by force.
problem>reaction>solution
create the problem, wait for the alarms, offer up a horrible solution, and one a LITTLE more reasonable to watch people reach for the "lesser evil". we understand this bad game.

GHW BUSH, was CIA and in charge of Air America (private like Blackwater) trading weapons for opium in korea and vietnam.
BUSH later as vice president under Reagan, oliver north and noriega trading cocaine for weapons... (with billyboy clinton taking cocaine shipments into MENA ARKANSAS, and HILLARY's ROSE LAW FIRM setting up TYSON CHICKEN as a big money laundering operation for it all..) john hinkley shoots Reagan, (coincidentally the hinkley family is friends of the bush family) then NANCY gets on the podium with the "JUST SAY NO" campaign .. tell the kiddies NO and turn youre back they reach right for it, this was advertizing the drugs because SOMEBODY had a LOT to get rid of. cocaine and amphetamine users will lie cheat and steal from friends and family to support their habit .. oh we need more police and more jails!! .. then the taxpayer funds em and they get "privatized", sold to a corporation. violent offenders are caught and released to keep pressure on the populace and more demand for "law enforcement" while the non violent are put to a workee-workee program.. inmate slavewaged to the corporations, while the taxpayers pay 50-60,000 a year per inmate for them to be there. inmates booking flights for TWA, telemarketing, PC troubleshooting for billy gates, etc etc.
- as the police state grows by leaps and bounds -
-this "war on drugs" is a farce allright-

(sidenote: they urinalyze for drugs but cocaine and amphetamines leave a persons system in 24-36 hours, but someone who might smoke a little pot.. it stays 30+ days detectable.. and these people are far less harmful than any powderhead.. they dont freak out stealing for not having pot. its the differences in the way these drugs affect the minds of the users! someone on powders is dangerous for always rushing in whatever they do when "UP", and always dangerously slacking when "DOWN", they call in sick when down too. they use a lot of alcohol to come down typically.
-and for burning the candle at both ends, they wont reach retirement age for social security, they have a lot of medical problems for the use/abuse, which is good for the medical and insurance industries. most non-violent offenders in lockup are pot heads. the insurance corporations and the AMA have made it so the better workers are more likely to be unemployed and locked up. it all works out well for "the unproductive police state")

the trouble with this, police, lawyers, judges, insurance corporations .. ARE NOT PRODUCTIVE, the do NOT produce goods for sale and profit, they are just an expense to the people. since the creation of the (non)federal reserve and going off the gold and silver backed monetary system, our WORTH was based on our productive capacity.. look at what these "free trade agreements" and "corporate welfares" have done to OUR WORTH. insurance companies make bank off the FEAR of WHAT IF.. and if something DOES happen they try to weasel out of making payment on a claim. and right now the president and vice president have declared themselves totally ABOVE THE LAW, any law. go figger.

exactly how much really treasonous manipulations do "these people in charge" think they can get away with, without everyone seeing it for what it is?

then theres 9-11-2001 with "terrorist arabs carrying box cutters" ... NO WAY !!
the buildings columns were precision cut with THERMATE to make them drop at freefall speed, larry silverstein's own words about a decision to "pull it" -controlled demolition takes weeks of preparation. who was in charge of security at the WTC but a BUSH, who's contract ENDED that day! coincidence? NOT!!
meanwhile CHENEY is in a bunker telling the stand down order is still in effect to make sure the planes hit thier targets!

so how much TREASON are "We The People" supposed to put up with?! we know what has gone on and what IS going on, but no one dares take these drug dealing THIEVES out of office. if anything, theyre in on the take, helping it all happen.
GEE THANKS
letter to congressmen thru JBS site.
Sees Things | 06.27.07 - 10:34 pm | #

Stay cool Freddy... you have got them on the defensive, ...I saw the misslie, it's at 5m:50 sec, on 911 The Explosive Evidence vid, the hi res shots at Killtown are convincing evidence a Cruiser slammed into the Pentagon and another one hit 45&6. fredfatt.com

Yo Freddy, ...I guess you made it to number one 911 researcher... Goin' onto your home site I do see you have a well defined agenda... AC
Enzo | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:20 pm | #
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Good post enzo, you do the Australia/Scottish Rite/US Freemason trilateral commission proud. Hey when we get 1200 Cheney/Halliburton CFR/AEI Death Camps up and running can we start using the superhighway to route all the amero minorities to the ovens. If you still got that line into Lynn's vibrating satan phone can you ask? We just want to know when to use the 9/11 Cheny special thermate on the guilotine boxcar tracks. Do you think you can bother satan spawn's wife to get that question answered?

Oh and tell Rothschild and Rockefeller that the Ames eugenics/DNA fuck your kids in sacrificial Rites lab but pretend we are just studying pigs has also been identified as a weapon against the American people. How the fuck do you get so much hidden funding for this shit. You are supposed to be defending the citizens not enslaving them, what is your general malfunction soldier???
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:32 pm | #

SANE, you were offered numerous exact questions. After scanning through your sewer of babble I found...

Scooter Libby = pawn that writes about girl being stuck in a cage with a raping bear Dick Cheney = an evil evil man

This is the moronic drivel of an idiot. -Rich
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Rich-please use references when stating what you call "babble." Also if you read you would know that Scooter Libby writes about peadaphilia beastiality. Here is one of his choice excertps:

Scooter Libby, erotic novelist
November 1, 2005 5:06 AM
I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby is (a) Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, (b) facing a five-count indictment from the special prosecutor in the CIA leak case, (c) the author of The Apprentice, a book that is, in the words of The New Yorker's Lauren Collins, "Libby's 1996 entry in the long and distinguished annals of the right-wing dirty novel," or (d) all of the above. Via Making Light.
http://www.metafilter.com/46298/...erotic- novelist

The Apprentice: A Novel (Paperback)
by Lewis Libby (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido...r-20/ref=nosim/
Libby's debut has distilled his diplomatic experiences in Japan with the U.S. State and Defense Departments into a subtle, if sometimes attenuated, story of innocence and temptation halfway across the world and a century ago.
Copyright 1996 Reed Business Information, Inc.

Convicted Perjurer I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby Reports Early for Imprisonment
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...6/15/7391/ 05364

Scooter's weapon of mass deception: The dirty book
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=47427
How could recently indicted Bush-Wah administration Straw Man-Scapegoat-Stooge I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby III's nearly simultaneous ascent to internationally celebrated trash-lit novelist possibly have escaped my attention, even ever so briefly?

Waiting out, um, Erection Day among the Whispering Pines of my natal state is one thing, but I apologize for what's tantamount to criminal neglect as a columnist on my part, for momentarily ignoring for a single nanosecond the unfortunately nicknamed fellow's joining the celebrated ranks of the Right-Wing Failed-Smut Writers League.
Will you possibly forgive me for my lapse, neglecting this sudden surge of pseudo-patriotic pornography?

In case you haven't yet snagged your own signed or unsigned if dog-eared and suspiciously stained copy of Scooter's "The Apprentice" doubtlessly selling for hundreds and hundreds of dollars on eBay by now you must know this smarmy excuse for fiction by the Officially Deconsecrated Boosh Bad-Boy advocates erotic encounters between very young, very nubile human females and hold on to your party registration bears and deer.

That's bestiality, folks, against the law in your state and mine. I love animals, but oh, you kid! Even worse, armadas of ignorant newscasters, overcome with the sordid sensational scandal-mongering of it all as they're awash in their own frenzied slobber and drool, are mispronouncing this crime against nature, if not good taste, as "beastiality."
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:27 pm | #

Half life 2 ha ha, does it matter?
prison planet
scanner | 06.27.07 - 10:19 pm | #

halo 2 explains it all well, nothing really.
(keep the debate going)
http://video.google.com/videopla...0& q=half+life+2
scanner | 06.27.07 - 10:17 pm | #

Sane, you are exposed as an idiot.

This is your argument.

I asked you to explain CHENEY AND HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH JINSA, and his RELATIONSHIP WITH ISRAEL. for YOU TO EXPLAIN IT.

Your answer - THAT YOUR OWN OWN OWN OWN explanation, would be a Nazi conspiracy

I asked you, to name WHAT GROUPS< WHAT PEOPLE< WHAT NATIONS are NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT in your Nazi illuminati conspiracy.

Once again your answer wsa THAT YOUR OWN ANSWER woud be a nazi illuminati conspiracy

THEY ARE YOUR ANSWERS, moron.

YOURS.

YOu are in a conspiracy against yourself?

I asked you to explain WHY. do you list ONLY JEWS, no one else, ONLY JEWS - as being 'above the Illuminati membership and conspiracy' and why you listed WHITE GENTILES, as the MAIN BODY of the illuminati conspiracy.

and your own answer was - YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER ON THE GROUNDS THAT YOUR OWN ANSWERS MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

Oh, you got me. Your OWN ANSWERS are illuminati conspiracy.

You are such an easy chump to slap down, with your Jewish Supremacy bullshit.

Jews - always right.
not Jews = Illuminati Nazis

THE PHILOSOPHY OF SANE.

how deep

you are a Zionist, and ashamed of it, which is the only right things about you. you SHOULD be ashamed
Rich | 06.27.07 - 10:16 pm | #

On "Coast" impressions are very important. Sane, you perhaps live in a more specific fact based world. Have you seen the "Chad" fotos of the arial drone? Any thoughts, or is this just something that fell off "the baloney wagon."
pc | 06.27.07 - 7:28 pm | #
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Dude the aerial drone is some new defense (lol-more like domestic fuck with your minds offense) weapon, they are seen everywhere. They were in brooklyn before 9/11. They can cloak for short periods of time and use magnetic energy to avoid normal physical limitations of most aircraft, so what does that have to do with anything. The technology has been used out of aerial 51 for at least 10 years and it ain't reptilian.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:16 pm | #

SANE, you were offered numerous exact questions. After scanning through your sewer of babble I found...

Scooter Libby = pawn that writes about girl being stuck in a cage with a raping bear Dick Cheney = an evil evil man

This is the moronic drivel of an idiot. This is your DEEP POLITICAL SCIENCE? what an idiot you are

Dude I ain't no jesus, gandhi, mlk, or x. = more blather

just a concerned american who started blogging 3 m onths ago. = blather

it don't take jesus to see you have an obvious agenda. = blather

Rich is a pawn for a Rep/Dem candidate that is attempting to relate RP to the American Nazi Party [similar setup like the one fictionalized in "Death to Smoochy"]. When he was called out on this and went running around like a headless chicken with cries of shame, he had to think up personal attacks on anything the posters who outed him said [I being one of them]. After attempting to catch me in "Kerry moments" then repeated these sentence fragments ad infinitum, I called him out on again lack of logic, evidence, references, or truth of any kind. This finally had him so dazed with his failure that he is now trying to say I am a jesus in some [for the 3rd time] shallow attempt to dissuade truth from being heard. Like the other 2 times, he will fail at this too. To Bad we are not playing baseball, otherwise he would be out

a giant idiot ad hominem fallacy.

Debate over, you lost.

as expected.

For reference look at the last 3 days on the 33rd thread (just start here and then look at any other post by Rich going upward. It really gets surreal near the end. If you are loo lazy just look at the last 20 posts or so on the 33rd thread.[wow 33rd, hmmm...]:
Rich | 06.27.07 - 10:11 pm | #

Readers... the situation is grim and getting grimmer as we speak... subliminal content on infowars.com, PP's sister site is as compelling as it is wicked... The abortion lobby is the eugenic lobby that espouses genocide, and Alex is up to his ears in it... Watson is a stooge, along with the spammers here who constantly post trash ...read about the Reptilians, then scroll down to Freddy's post re the missile and look at the vid then take a look at the hi res shots of WTC's 45&6.

Read about the push to attack Iran then read of that country's determination to defend... What about the Somali's in Canada, the eugenic lobby has had full rein there, ...just check the end result, they killed the kids then brought two hundred thousand Sonali immigrants in... See the vid 911 The explosive Evidence ...The Missile Watson can't see is at 5m:50sec, Check the foreign soldier at 1hr 09m, see Alex say WTC and OBL and terrorism all at once July 2001... he foretold not the actual event, but the official explanation of the event.

The Koran exhorts the faithful to hurl truth at falsehood... FF does that.

Hi Freddy, Great posting man… Say your story re the Readers Digest article re the explosives built into the WTC during construction has paid off… Great journalism man… I’ll republish the story here… A big fatt raspberry to Steve W… he says FF’s stuff doesn’t verify… what a wanker.

From The Files of Freddy Fatt: …The Readers Digest ran a story during the WTC construction stating explosives would be built into the buildings to facilitate their eventual demolition. Update: …Here's the scoop behind the "pre installed explosives" thing, … Paul Laffoley worked in the early 1960's for Emery Roth and Sons, a prominent New York City architectural design firm. On Mike Hagen Radio Orbit on February 21 2007, he said he helped to design the WTC with explosive charges built into the towers, in order to take them down neatly at any time.

…I have to sit here scrolling through trash and wasting time… everything you just mentioned is totally unverifiable… this is a news site that sticks to what is provable... thanks to those who post sensible and informative comments… Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:40 pm | #

Here it is once more Steve… Imagine you are in court charged as an accessory… the vid link is shown to the court with photographic evidence and witness testimony… Do you sneer at the court the same way you sneer at the evidence on this forum.

Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower, is believed to be a multi warhead Tomahawk Cruise Missile which impacted WTC’s 4, 5 & 6 moments later…
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 8:48 pm | #

No reading on reptilians (and the Nazi connection), would be complete without the Dulce book. And here it is:
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/d...ce/ chapter1.htm
scanner | 06.27.07 - 8:19 pm | #

all you might need to know about the lizard reptilians:
http://www.crystalinks.com/ repti...reptilians.html
have fun
scanner | 06.27.07 - 8:04 pm | #

Sorry for the cryptic terminology, but I am a "Coastie" at heart, and more specifically a "Noorite".
pc | 06.27.07 - 7:14 pm | #

re Immigration Reform-Our reptilian congress will take their special interest money, payoffs, donations, etc. then vote for the bill and slither off leaving most of the rest of us holding the bag.
pc | 06.27.07 - 6:57 pm | #
?????????????????

Who is a reptilian?
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 7:09 pm | #

re Immigration Reform

Our reptilian congress will take their special interest money, payoffs, donations, etc. then vote for the bill and slither off leaving most of the rest of us holding the bag.
pc | 06.27.07 - 6:57 pm | #

Number for Capital switchboard is 1-202-224-3121, just ask for you Senator! Thank Senator's Session and Demint and McCaskill too! DEMAND ALL VOTE AGAINST CLOSURE TOMORROW BUT IF IT PASSES TO VOTE THE FUCK DOWN THE BILL ITSELF! Go to this website for individual Senators if other number is busy but email ALL your lists tonight and tell them how horrorible this bill is! http://www.senate.gov/general/ co...enators_cfm.cfm
What does it tell you sheeple that they are allowing illegal alien sexual child abuse people amnesty in this BILL? Current and past abusers! Or that they are allowing illegal aliens with ties to terrorists AMNESTY in this bill!? IT PROVES THEY ARE IN BED WITH THE "TERRORISTS" AND THEY ARE THE REAL "TERRORISTS" THAT'S FUCKING WHAT! Not to mention increase in H1B visas or fact that we taxpayer's will have to foot bill for illegal aliens tuition or fact that it FAST TRACKS TREASONOUS SPP TOO!
9-11 truther | 06.27.07 - 6:53 pm | #

CALL AGAINST THE AMNESTY BILL AND NOW! CALL ALL SENATORS AND ESPECIALLY BITCH OUT TREASONOUS HARRY REID TOO AND DEMAND HE SCRAP THIS PIECE OF SHIT, TREASONOUS LEGISLATION AND NOW! CALL TOMORROW BEFORE 9AM TOO! AND EMAIL TONIGHT ALL YOUR LISTS TO DEMAND THEY CALL TOO TO STOP THIS TREASONOUS PIECE OF SHIT LEGISLATION! IT'S TREASON! Illegal aliens with ties to terrorism would get amnesty and that is SUPPOSEDLY WHAT THIS FUCKING BILL WAS SUPPOSED TO STOP! IT'S ABOUT DESTROYING AMERICA FROM WITHIN! PERIOD! RAISE HOLY HELL AND NOW! TELL YOUR FUCKING SENATOR EITHER HE/SHE VOTES AGAINST CLOSURE TOMORROW OR YOU WILL TOSS THEM OUT, PERIOD! AND IF CLOSURE IS INVOKED THEN THEY BY GOD NEED TO VOTE THIS PIECE OF SHIT LEGISLATION DOWN AND NOW! What does it say to you stupid sheeple who still believe they are ALL not in bed together when they KNOW iillegal aliens with ties to terrorists are allowed amnesty??? NOW WILL YOU STUPID, GULLIBLE MF'ERS BELIEVE 9-11 WAS INSIDE JOB AND CONGRESS KNOWS IT AND IS IN BED WITH THEM, 90% OF THEM ANYWAY!
9-11 truther | 06.27.07 - 6:47 pm | #

Now do you beleive the Browns when they say there is no law about income taxes

See how true this is!!!!

They let illagal immigrants invade America this is proof income taxes never should have been implimented in the first place. All your income tax money went to finance this treason to America.

Wake up people it is never too late.
Thought is creative consciousness united can turn this all around.It's all up to each and every one of us not the criminal government and worshipers of evil.
George | 06.27.07 - 6:26 pm | #

Chemtrails to bind DU particles in air, bring them down where they are less harmful. Still. Hmmm.
pc | 06.27.07 - 6:18 pm | #

http://www.kirkbytimes.co.uk/ ima...aqi_soilder.jpg

Mission Accomplished
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 5:45 pm | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...related& search=

look and listen to this what do you make of this?
is this true? | 06.27.07 - 4:41 pm | #

Dr. Gene Corley, one of the engineers who led the investigation, told AFP The Customs House had a huge crater in its center. Corley said he had not seen the photos of the extremely high-speed missile-like object seen streaking toward WTC 6 from behind the North Tower as the second plane hit the South Tower. He noted that parts of the plane’s landing gear and an engine passed through the South Tower, and landed several blocks away. These objects, however, had a distinctly different trajectory from the streaking missile-like object.

In July 2001 Alex Jones used the words, …terrorism ….Osama Bin Laden …World Trade Centre, all in one sentence, that is circumstantial evidence of prior knowledge… AJ has long been the leader of the 911 Was an Inside Job movement, Dracula in charge of the blood bank is an apt analogy maybe.
Doug Messerschmitt | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 4:17 pm | #

Great posting guys, can you also look into how Dick Cheney ordered the missles to hit the towers and then ordered the explosions from the bunker where he and his Satanic Wife were sabotaging the US?

Can you also look into the 600 then 800 now maybe more than 1,000 Cheney/Halliburton death camps for the jews in this country...then of course the blacks, hispanics, homosexuals, asians, pretty much everyone who is not part of the elite illuminati.

Keep researching guys how the IRS is a sham and how the Rockefellers and Rothschilds are slow bleeding this country into submission.

Keep researching the Bohemian Grove ritual child sacrifices.

Don't stop!!!!

Keep uncovering the way Monsanto, BP, Halliburton, Raytheo use child sex rings to blackmail politicians so that they will never see the inside of a courtroom for their crimes against humanity.

Keep researching COINTELPRO on how Cheney wants to subvert, divide, disrupt peaceful love for the Constitution of the United States.

Heck of a job Brownie
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 4:28 pm | #

Hi Freddy, Great posting man… Say your story re the Readers Digest article re the explosives built into the WTC during construction has paid off… Great journalism man… I’ll republish the story here… A big fatt raspberry to Steve W… he says FF’s stuff doesn’t verify… what a wanker.

From The Files of Freddy Fatt: …The Readers Digest ran a story during the WTC construction stating explosives would be built into the buildings to facilitate their eventual demolition. Update: …Here's the scoop behind the "pre installed explosives" thing, … Paul Laffoley worked in the early 1960's for Emery Roth and Sons, a prominent New York City architectural design firm. On Mike Hagen Radio Orbit on February 21 2007, he said he helped to design the WTC with explosive charges built into the towers, in order to take them down neatly at any time.

…I have to sit here scrolling through trash and wasting time… everything you just mentioned is totally unverifiable… this is a news site that sticks to what is provable... thanks to those who post sensible and informative comments… Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:40 pm | #

Here it is once more Steve… Imagine you are in court charged as an accessory… the vid link is shown to the court with photographic evidence and witness testimony… Do you sneer at the court the same way you sneer at the evidence on this forum.

Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower, is believed to be a multi warhead Tomahawk Cruise Missile which impacted WTC’s 4, 5 & 6 moments later… Most visible at this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...related& search=

…as the second jet rammed its target, ‘…That was an explosion,’ says Stephen McArdle a tax consultant, from inside the Marriot Hotel, he was taping as part of an FBI sting operation. …Then comes a longer and much louder explosion. Greg Smith 2002. The second explosion is in fact the detonation of the missile’s payload…

This is the Jew response: “…Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower...” Aw crap. 1984 | 06.13.07 - 10:31 pm | #

Jack White’s 911 Studies: The South Tower was hit at 9:03, at 9:04 CNN televised a significant explosion between the North Tower and Building 7 the location of WTC 6, the 8-Story Customs House… Photo: a pyroclastic cloud in an inner city environment, caption… while onlookers were distracted by the events at skyscraper level, moments after the second plane hit the South Tower, WTC 6 was torn apart by a massive explosion. The crater in the building was eight stories deep, an immense hole blasted into the sub basements… all eight stories missing… no wreckage… blown away… Vaporized by the missiles thermonuclear warhead.

Dr. Gene Corley, one of the engineers who led the investigation, told AFP The Customs House had a huge crater in its center. Corley said he had not seen the photos of the extremely high-speed missile-like object seen streaking toward WTC 6 from behind the North Tower as the second plane hit the South Tower. He noted that parts of the plane’s landing gear and an engine passed through the South Tower, and landed several blocks away. These objects, however, had a distinctly different trajectory from the streaking missile-like object.

In July 2001 Alex Jones used the words, …terrorism ….Osama Bin Laden …World Trade Centre, all in one sentence, that is circumstantial evidence of prior knowledge… AJ has long been the leader of the 911 Was an Inside Job movement, Dracula in charge of the blood bank is an apt analogy maybe.
Doug Messerschmitt | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 4:17 pm | #

did anyone see the history channel monday nite in reference to the masonic curse intended for America~told about Washington and Franklin being Grand worshipful masters as well as the layout of the streets to flaunt their satanic symbols in Gods face!! they aren't hiding their plans anymore!
Patrick | 06.27.07 - 3:50 pm | #
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Just like they hijacked [or created much more likely] freemasonry.
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http://www.saintsalive.com/ freem...founders_fm.htm
In addition, many founding fathers spoke out about secret societies after seeing that they were being used by illuminati:

George Washington, in his Farewell Address, made it perfectly clear that he was opposed to Freemasonry and all it stood for:

“All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.

However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”

Further, Governor Ritner, in response to a communication from the Legislature of Pennsylvania, prepared a vindication of President Washington from the stigma of adherence to secret societies, in which he proved from authentic documents:
That in 1768 Washington had ceased regular attendance in the Lodge
That in 1798, shortly before his death, his opinions were the same as thirty years before, when he was thirty-six years old.
That he was never “grand Master” or “Master of any particular lodge.
That in 1781, as appears by the record of King David Lodge, Newport, Rhode Island, it was agreeable to Washington to be addressed as a private Mason.
That all the letters said to be written by Washington to lodges are spurious.

Washington was initiated into Masonry when a young man, but in his mature years it was distasteful to him to be addressed as a Mason, and in reply to a letter from Dr. Snyder, declared that he had not been in a lodge of Masons but once in or twice in thirty years. He was to all intents and purposes a seceding Mason.

Aaron Burr and Benedict Arnold were good Masons, lived and died as such and so were nearly all the Southern generals of the War of the Rebellion, but to connect General Washington’s name with Freemasonry now is an insult to his memory and every honest and intelligent Mason knows it.
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Just another perspective from ex-mormons:
http://saintsalive.com/who.html
"We are a Christian nonprofit corporation founded upon the call of God to witness Jesus to those lost in Mormonism and other cults."
-Saints Alive
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 4:17 pm | #

Zionists Kill True Jews! And Were Involved With Hitler! …NETUREI KARTA: The name was given to a group of Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem who refuse to recognize the existence or authority of the so-called "State of Israel" and make a point of publicly demonstrating their position, the position of the Torah and authentic unadulterated Judaism.

did anyone see the history channel monday nite in reference to the masonic curse intended for America~told about Washington and Franklin being Grand worshipful masters as well as the layout of the streets to flaunt their satanic symbols in Gods face!! they aren't hiding their plans anymore!
Patrick | 06.27.07 - 3:50 pm | #
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There are hundreds of Jewish Hassidic Sects that do not recognize the state of Israel. Also Zionism caught up millions of worldwide jews looking for an answer to the Holocaust only to be hijacked [or even invented] by illuminati. Just like the nazi party was hijacked [or invented] early on, the KKK, the christian right, the islamic fundamentalists, etc. etc.

Nothing new, just another way to hijack, control, and use a platform for illuminati.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 3:58 pm | #

....and some people think terrorists are trying to destroy America.
JudgeDredd | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 3:42 pm | #

Isn't the Federal Govt. wonderful to be trying to do this to their own fellow citizens???????????
Patrick | 06.27.07 - 3:30 pm | #

Federal bill would rob poor, benefit corporations

CHIP ROGERS
AJC.com
Wednesday June 27, 2007

Assume Congress was considering a "comprehensive" plan to reduce wages for the poor, increase crime in minority neighborhoods, further diminish already failing pubic schools, and seriously strain an overburdened health care system.

Surely such a proposal would be dismissed as "un-American."

Yet this is exactly what the current amnesty/guest worker bill would accomplish.

While multinational corporations brazenly urge Congress to decriminalize the subsidized illegal labor of an estimated 20 million illegal aliens, there has been little public exposure of what would happen to low-income U.S. citizens, particularly minorities.

T. Willard Fair is president of the Urban League of Greater Miami, and in his own words devoted much of his adult life to "helping black men build constructive lives."

During recent testimony before Congress, Fair asked real-life questions striking at the heart of the proposed amnesty:

"Think about it this way: If there's a young black man in Liberty City, where I live, who's good with his hands and wants to become a carpenter, which is more likely to help him achieve that goal — amnesty and more immigration, or enforcement and less immigration?

"Which is more likely to help an ex-convict or recovering addict get hired at an entry-level job and start the climb back to a decent life — amnesty and more immigration, or enforcement and less immigration?

"Which is more likely to persuade a teenager in the inner city to reject the lure of gang life and instead stick with honest employment — amnesty and more immigration, or enforcement and less immigration?"

Norman Matloff is a highly regarded professor and former chairman for the University of California, Davis, Affirmative Action Committee. Influenced by his childhood in predominantly Latino East Los Angeles, Matloff's professional career has been devoted to helping minorities. He is married to an immigrant. During testimony before Congress, Matloff summarized his lengthy and detailed research into the destructive impact of illegal/legal immigration on minorities: "The adverse impacts are both economic and noneconomic in nature: increased job competition; lowered wages; reduced opportunities for entrepreneurs; reductions in quality of education and housing; increased exposure to disease."

Monroe Anderson, a well-respected African-American columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, recently penned a column entitled "Immigration Hurts Blacks." He describes the current Senate amnesty proposal this way: "so rich and rewarding — for the rich. Illegal immigration allows the rich to get cheaper and cheaper goods and services and the black working class and poor to get hustled and trickled-down on."

A 2006 raid at a chicken processing plant in Stillmore resulted in an employer, Crider Inc., turning to the Georgia employment office for the first time in years. The result cast doubt on the long-standing claim "these are jobs Americans won't do."

More than 400 applicants came looking for work. Almost every new Crider employee is African-American. As elites in Washington seek to satisfy their corporate masters, while simultaneously attempting to purchase a new ethnic voting block, faithful public servants such as Fair of the Urban League must pick up the pieces of those left behind.

Perhaps we should all listen to his advice, "The interests of black Americans are clear: No amnesty, no guest workers, enforce the immigration law."
Patrick | 06.27.07 - 3:29 pm | #

Jew history reveals the Scribes and Pharisees of Jesus day were themselves corrupt, who took umbrage at Jesus claim that they were plunderers who were using the mores and traditions of Judah for evil purposes. Claims that DNA evidence has linked the Jews of Jesus era to the modern Ashkenazi, only means that the Khazar infiltration of Judah has been going on a lot longer than the date of 740 AD, usually given as the time of the Khazar conversion. This writer suggests that the Jew residence in Babylon documented in The Bible was the first contact between Jew and Khazar, and it was during this era that enterprising Khazars recognized then took advantage of the vulnerability of Judah, to infiltration and control.

My purpose is to liberate the Jews from Khazar oppression. And in that respect more resemble The Golem than any fictional character.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 3:11 pm | #
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Hey Freddy, I was just looking into Leviticus:
20:2. Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel: If any man of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that dwell in Israel, give of his seed to the idol Moloch, dying let him die. The people of the land shall stone him.

Now why does Dick Cheney partake in the cremation of care [praying to while sacrificing an effigy child to Molech] and build Halliburton Death camps for the result of what you are propogating?
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 3:28 pm | #

What idiot is going to fall for the "bad cop, good cop" routine that Bliar and Brown are staging in relation to the EU. It is obvious that they have a Common Purpose. See:
www.eutruth.co.uk
bootroll | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 3:19 pm | #

Young Americans Love Obama, Clinton…

Who says they do… Just because it is on the news it does not mean it is the truth…

…yeah or maybe its because everything you just mentioned is totally unverifiable and this is a news site that sticks to what is provable.
Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:34 pm | #

Alex Jones used the key words Osama Bin Laden, Terrorism and the World Trade Centre on 25 July 2001. In a broadcast statement 26 June 2007, his guest described the technique forces of evil use to recruit persons who will subsequently do the hands on jobs to carry out the Eugenic agenda of the NWO… Losers are recruited and skills tested, psychopaths are separated put thru an indoctrination process that inflates their ego’s, read of Japanese kill units operating in Manchuria in 1937… and of the Nanking massacre… The Japanese paramilitaries who carried out the killing and atrocity were told that they were, “…boon companions of the Emperor.”

So the propaganda machine used Alex to disseminate a message of rebellion against the 911 criminals, inflated the public’s perception that he was this fearless fighter and that he was gonna stick to the truth… keep goin’… bullhorning, while in reality the BS he was on about simply diverted attention from the mountain of evidence implicating Israel and Jews, that’s lying around on the internet which Watson says does not exist. Thus Watson was recruited by the same machine that endorsed Alex as the champion freedom fighter, then compromised the whole process by making sure that his hero worship of Alex, who had after all lifted him from obscurity and put him in charge of the PP website, overrode all other considerations including the truth… Thus if it is from Alex it is gospel truth, and unless Alex endorses it, it is worthy only of contempt.

…I have to sit here scrolling through trash and wasting time… Much thanks to those who post sensible and informative comments. Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:40 pm | #

Don’t waste your time with this stuff Steve you are long ago part of the corrupt system… Scroll on down you idiot, the spammers here gloat when they read your trash…

Zionists Kill True Jews! And Were Involved With Hitler! …NETUREI KARTA: The name was given to a group of Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem who refuse to recognize the existence or authority of the so-called "State of Israel" and make a point of publicly demonstrating their position, the position of the Torah and authentic unadulterated Judaism. http://www.nkusa.org/ RESISTANCE UK | 06.20.07 - 6:49 am | #

Great post R UK, The nkusa site has a lot of very refreshing content, which endorses the view that the occupation and settlement of Palestine allegedly under the auspices of Hebrew culture, was a profane and unlawful interpretation of Jewish law, and was in keeping with the Zionist agenda that caused millions to be gassed during WW2, as Khazar Zionists went ahead with their disastrous agenda...

Witness Moshe Dyan Kaplan’s testimony re his Amsterdam family emerging from the Holocaust unscathed, his claim to be a Pharisee and his contempt for those Jews who were gassed, Cheesies he called them since their diet consisted largely of that product. He said they had been gassed at Auschwitz, and gave me to understand that as far as he was concerned they were neither missed nor mourned.

It would be great if the nkusa folk would get a little involved with this matter…

Katherine Schweitzer was a Hungarian Jew the only member of her family to survive The Holocaust, last seen alive in Sydney 22 December 2006, on 30 November 2006 her account of her arrest and internment in Auschwitz, went onto the net. She was arrested by a Jew who was living on the same street in Sydney… December 28 2006: The strangling of an 80-year-old Sydney woman and dumping of her body in a wheelie bin has baffled police and her neighbors. They are at a loss to explain such a callous killing.

We say that Katherine Schweitzer was murdered by Jew elements in reprisal for telling the truth, the above story went onto the net on November 30 2006, concerned her testimony would encourage other survivors of the so called Holocaust to do the same. And to warn any other Jews who want the truth to come out just what the consequences will be. Fritz-Harry Cremer could be a Mossad agent, and perhaps he talked his way into her apartment and murdered her.

It would be a perfect way for the Sephardic community to demonstrate it’s cooperation with broader society, by assisting re this matter. Data bases maintained in Israel might have useful information re the deportment of Fritz-Harry Cremer for instance.

This is the feedback I have had from the spammers here… Freddy the anti-semite… sane | 05.16.07 - 10:35 pm | #

My reply: Sane… you are using the same old well worn canard, that criminal Jews have been relying on for centuries. Claiming that justice seekers who have identified Jews as criminals, are not interested in prosecuting criminality at all, but are venting hatred against Jews simply because they are Jews.

Sephardic Jews number around seven percent of the total, the remainder are The Ashkenazi a tribe from Kazakhstan who converted to Judah. The Zionazi, an extreme sect of the Ashkenazi then usurped the function of that religion, firstly by establishing themselves as Scribes and Pharisees and lording it over the rest, brutally repressing more moderate elements with pogrom and persecution. Eventually gassing all and any opposition in The Holocaust, then establishing the rogue Modern State of Israel.

Bad people surely but not bad Jews, since they are not Jews at all but are worshipers of Arion the Horse God, offspring of the violent and incestuous union between Poseidon and Demeter his beautiful sister. He had conceived a lust for her, and knowing she would assume the shape of a beautiful mare to gallop across the Earth, he sent spies to watch her. When they reported she was in this form, he changed himself into a stallion and raped her. The fierce eye of the Quarter Horse is the inheritance of Arion.

Jew history reveals the Scribes and Pharisees of Jesus day were themselves corrupt, who took umbrage at Jesus claim that they were plunderers who were using the mores and traditions of Judah for evil purposes. Claims that DNA evidence has linked the Jews of Jesus era to the modern Ashkenazi, only means that the Khazar infiltration of Judah has been going on a lot longer than the date of 740 AD, usually given as the time of the Khazar conversion. This writer suggests that the Jew residence in Babylon documented in The Bible was the first contact between Jew and Khazar, and it was during this era that enterprising Khazars recognized then took advantage of the vulnerability of Judah, to infiltration and control.

My purpose is to liberate the Jews from Khazar oppression. And in that respect more resemble The Golem than any fictional character.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 3:11 pm | #

impeachment is to good for Cheney, indict
Snake Plisken | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 2:57 pm | #

While borders are wide open and illigals are flowing in preparing the downfall of America, people still watch american idol and what mainstream entertainement show on television while all this is going on.

They rob us with income taxes that are unjustified additionnally to all this madness.So people can't you see income tax is a scam?????????

If they let so many illigals enter the borders, how can they justify income taxes ????

Wake up people
Alice | 06.27.07 - 2:49 pm | #

THE UNDERGROUND EMPIRE

reference :

http://ufo.whipnet.org/xdocs/und...pire/ index.html
Dedric | 06.27.07 - 2:42 pm | #

Sidric | 06.27.07 - 2:25 pm | #
Sidric | 06.27.07 - 2:14 pm | #
Sod | 06.27.07 - 2:05 pm | #

You gonna ramble stuff without any references all day or is this just a 20 min stint for you?
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 2:35 pm | #

Dodd says impeaching Cheney won't work. We must give him time to realize another 911 and invade Iran.
Amnesty is on the way in , now they have their Military recruits.& Now they will be in place actualize their Invasion of Iran.
There will be much,much, more going on than this tid bit, I can assure you.
chris jones | 06.27.07 - 1:18 pm | #
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Exactly, Cheney is the biggest threat in creating a false flag attack on Iran. He needs to be taken down ASAP!

Dodd need to fucking stop promoting cowardism among the American people. He obviously takes orders from the same people and has had his balls snipped already.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 2:30 pm | #

People take time and read

One of the major deceptions which the 'Draconians' have used to subvert humanity, especially intelligence agencies, is the idea that THEY -- the aliens -- genetically created the human race and placed us on this planet, and therefore they are our 'gods'. And so, powerful individuals with whom the aliens interact -- and who have been given promises which sound too good to be true, because they ARE, in exchange for their cooperation -- have opened the door for the alien infiltration and infestation of all levels of our society. That is, the infiltration of our society by collectivist-interventionist reptilian-based entities known as the 'Greys' and 'Reptiloids'. And the ancient black Gnostic 'serpent cults' of Bavaria, Germany were ready and willing to enter into a 'marriage of convenience' with these draconians because like the aliens themselves, they also wished to rule the planet. The aliens needed the global economic and fraternal connections of the 'Bavarian' secret societies, whereas the human 'elite' needed the alien mind control technology. The Bavarian elitists agreed to a certain percentage of the planet once th
Sidric | 06.27.07 - 2:25 pm | #

Down with income taxes

Time has come to cut the power that feeds the evil cabal.

THey have abused us all and time is here where we will show them the game is up.

Refusal of paying income taxes is now arrived.
Refusal of bying drugs is now arrived.

These realities is what feeds the dark illigal government that has abused humanity for too long now.

People time to stand for you have no other choice but submit as a slave but even then they will sacrifice your no spine attitudes if that is the case.

The agenda they have in store is to kill 90% of humanity.

So people of earth it's live or die one way or the other you are solicited to stand for your rights and freedoms.

Peace and may the light help you all resolve this drama that is unfolding.

You are not dreaming, this is not fiction.

There is no where to run, you have permitted this to unfoald by your lack of taking responsability as a human race. NOw is the time to save what can be saved.

May your nightmares be accompanied by the light to help you find the way out of this madness.
Sidric | 06.27.07 - 2:14 pm | #

You blind or braiwashed humans time to wake up:

Nazi's really didn't loose World War II. I know this may sound incredible, but read on.

The joint reptilian-fascist underground empire, complete with massive 'concentration camps' which make those in Nazi Germany pale by comparison, has chosen America as its major target because the Americas are the last bastion of freedom on earth. The 'takeover' is more-or-less complete within the underground systems, however numerous attempts to implement a joint Draconian-Fascist dictatorship in America have failed because of heavy resistance and support for a Constitutional form of government. God and the 2nd Amendment are really the only forces standing in the way of a complete takeover. This has prevented the 'outer world' from succumbing to this draconian invasion. Now that their secret is beginning to be exposed throughout the media in TV series' such as DARK SKIES, they are desperate. Their window of opportunity is closing and they must act fast, before the alien-manipulated military-industrial-complex comes under the control of the 'patriots', and the 'alien' technology in their possession is commandeered by TRUE Americans. This would mean that everyone -- not just the mind-controlled 'elite' -- will have access to interplanetary technology, which in turn would mean that freedom-loving Americans would eventually come to the defense of those interstellar cultures who have fallen under the oppression and control of the Draconian-Orion imperialists.

Time to move humans who still beleive freedom is possible.

Your leaders are captive and slaves and for some accomplises of ther evil who want to take over the planet.

Washington is corrupted as many high profile leaders are under the control of this enemy of humanity

This is not fiction, mainstream media might not talk about it but they also are controled.

Only humans can act and act now before we all become slaves .
Sod | 06.27.07 - 2:05 pm | #

Get out there & do your thing People!
Time is short!
GET MOVING NOW!
MOVE IT ! MOVE IT! MOVE IT!
THE TIME IS NOW! SAVE AMERICA NOW!

DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER!
doctor No NWO | 06.27.07 - 1:24 pm | #

I also believe that I was greatly mistaken as far as Tsarion's evil inclination. I believe now that he is a passionate believer in the fall of man and is very interested in waking people up for the good of mankind.

I do think he could use a speech coach (jk). I do really think that a show having someone like him and someone like freeman represents a nice counterbalance to allow the truth to get through without being distracted by one method of communication being too extreme.

I really like his take on TV and watching at a different frequency level-I have been doing it for 2 months and it is so obvious the weapons they use against us.

Again thanks for waking me up to him.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 1:03 pm | #

Just watched Tsarion on Freeman-ok there is some interesting stuff. This guy has some interesting knowledge, but I am definitely trying to save our country and her sovereignty first and deal with the genetical manipulation of the human being second [I know there is a relation between the two-but first things first.]

Also this genetical manipulation is well known from Plato and Watt is very clear on this stuff.

So I will watch and listen read more of his stuff, thanks for your persistence in this.

I do not believe I will take the 22 DVD course yet though.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:56 pm | #

Sick and Sicker: Two Models of Health Care Rationing
http://www.counterpunch.org/ rose...al06272007.html

Bush and the Everglades: Rebranding Failure as Success
http://www.counterpunch.org/ fara...go06272007.html

Sen. Russ Feingold-Secrecy and the Federal Death Penalty
http://www.counterpunch.org/ fein...ld06272007.html

The Footprints of Democracies
http://www.counterpunch.org/ buch...it06272007.html
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:39 pm | #

FBI Spying on the National Lawyers Guild
Targeting Dissent

By MARJORIE COHN
http://www.counterpunch.org/ cohn...hn06272007.html
In 1937, the American Bar Association refused to allow people of color to join its ranks. With the blessing of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, the National Lawyers Guild was founded as a multi-racial alternative to the ABA. The Guild's founding members included the attorney general, several judges, some congressmen, and the head of the National Labor Relations Board.

Three years after the creation of the National Lawyers Guild, the FBI began to conduct secret surveillance of the Guild. From 1940 to 1975, the FBI wiretapped Guild phones, burglarized Guild offices, and sent informers into Guild meetings. The June 25, 2007 New York Times report on the FBI's program of spying on the Guild omits FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover's primary rationale for undertaking this surveillance: "to blunt the Guild's criticism of the FBI and, if possible, to destroy the organization," in the words of Michael Krinsky, one of the lawyers who filed the 1977 lawsuit against the FBI.

The Guild, which provided legal support for the people, was a thorn in Hoover's side. In 1950, the Guild was about to release a big exposé on the FBI, prepared by Yale law professor and ex-Guild president Thomas Emerson. No other organization was undertaking such a comprehensive criticism of the FBI. Through illegal wiretaps and informants the FBI learned of the Guild's impending report. In advance of the report's release, the FBI launched a pre-emptive strike at the Guild by causing people in the press and the Senate to denounce the report. "So the story became the Lawyers Guild, not the FBI," Krinsky said.

The FBI asked Richard M. Nixon, a member of the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), to call for an investigation of the Guild, on the eve of the release of the Guild report. The investigation led to the 1950 HUAC report titled, "National Lawyers Guild: Legal Bulwark of the Communist Party." It concluded with a call to the attorney general to designate the National Lawyers Guild a "subversive organization." The AG complied in 1953, but when no evidence to support the designation was forthcoming, he dropped it in 1958.

From the 1950s through the early 1970s, the FBI continued to focus on the National Lawyers Guild. The FBI had a list called The Security Index, which identified people, including Guild leaders, to be rounded up in the event of a national emergency.

Hoover's COINTELPRO (Counter-Intelligence Program) engaged in illegal surveillance of other organizations and individuals as well as the Guild. For example, in a program called Racial Matters, the FBI wiretapped Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s hotel rooms and tried to drive him to divorce and suicide. Dr. King's voter registration campaign and especially his vocal opposition to the Vietnam War incurred the wrath of J. Edgar Hoover, who went after Dr. King with a vengeance. Groups such as the Committee in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador (CISPES) were also on Hoover's surveillance list.

The revelation of President Richard Nixon's illegal surveillance of groups opposed to his policies as well as hearings by a select Senate committee chaired by Senator Frank Church led to the enactment of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and other curbs on the power of the FBI and the CIA. Today we are faced with President George W. Bush's secret domestic spying program, which, as I explain in my book, Cowboy Republic: Six Ways the Bush Gang Has Defied the Law, violates not only FISA, but the Fourth Amendment as well.

Bush's predecessors illegally targeted those who criticized their policies, under the guise of fighting communism. Bush's rationale for bending the Constitution is fighting terrorism, but his attacks are leveled at disssenters.

The HUAC report and the AG's designation of the Guild not only violated the Constitution; they nearly succeeded in destroying the organization. Membership in the Guild fell to about 300 members. But the Guild survived and today it boasts nearly 6,000 members.

Members of the National Lawyers Guild continue to work beside those who struggle for economic, racial and sexual equality, and against imperial wars and occupations. I'm proud to have been a Guild member for more than half of its 70-year life.

Marjorie Cohn is a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law and president of the National Lawyers Guild. Her new book, Cowboy Republic: Six Ways the Bush Gang Has Defied the Law, will be published in July.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:35 pm | #

I SAY
DEATH TO THE NWO!
& SO SAY THE PEOPLE OF GOD
DEATH TO THE NWO!
DEATH TO THE NWO!
DEATH TO THE NWO!
doctor No NWO | 06.27.07 - 12:33 pm | #

April 29, 2002
Henry Kissinger: the Wanted Man
http://www.counterpunch.org/ reil...reilly0429.html
by Christopher Reilly

Henry Kissinger's dark past seems to be enclosing around him as various countries in South America and Europe have sought to question him about actions taken by the Nixon and Ford administrations in which Kissinger was National Security Adviser and Secretary of State respectively.

The latest move to question Kissinger was by Peter Tatchell, a British human rights activist. While Kissinger was speaking in Britain at the UK's Institute of Directors annual conference on April 24, Tatchell attempted to have him arrested for committing war crimes under the Geneva Conventions Act.

Judge Nicholas Evans at the Bow Street magistrates' court rejected Tatchell's request because Tatchell did not present enough evidence implicating Kissinger to war crimes. However, according to Tatchell, the judge left the door open for future attempts to arrest the former U.S. official if suitable evidence is presented.

According to Tatchell's recent contribution to London's The Guardian, if he is able to "produce stronger evidence of Kissinger's culpability in the killing, maiming, torture and forced relocation of civilian populations in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia in the late 60s and early 70s," then there is a possibility an arrest warrant for Kissinger may be issued in the future.

Tatchell believes that Kissinger is responsible for tens of thousands of deaths in Indochina. Tatchell mentions how the Nixon Administration dropped "nearly 4.5 million tons of high explosives on Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia"; an amount double that dropped during the entire Second World War.

Tatchell explains that much of the evidence against Kissinger and his role in Indochina is highlighted in the book, The Trial of Henry Kissinger, by Christopher Hitchens. According to Hitchens, Kissinger approved bombing runs that resulted in widespread civilian casualties.

Kissinger was also responsible for the "premeditated, wholesale destruction of the environment using chemical defoliants such as Agent Orange," as Tatchell wrote in The Guardian. "These are war crimes under the 1957 Geneva Conventions Act." More...
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:27 pm | #

"Mad Max" vs. Taliban?
By Noah Shachtman June 26, 2007 | 10:05:00 AMCategories: Armor, Ground Vehicles
http://blog.wired.com/defense/20...ax-vs- tali.html
The U.S. military may be encasing its soldiers in thicker and thicker armor -- buying thousands of heavily reinforced, bomb-resistant vehicles. The Brits are taking an entirely different approach, with an open-air, off-road, four-ton, 4X4 called the Supacat.

The Daily Mail, in the understated style you've come to expect from the British press, calls it an "80 mph 'Mad Max' monster target the Taliban." Well, not quite yet.

the Ministry of Defence is buying 130 of the light-armoured beasts – which can reach a maximum 80mph – and will take delivery of the first early next year.

One senior Army officer described the new super-truck as a "serious bit of kit", adding it would be a "huge boost to our long-range patrolling capability"...

Senior defence sources say the Supacats will particularly come into their own against the Taliban in Afghanistan's Helmand Province, which has no roads.

Defence Minister Lord Drayson said last night: "These vehicles are well armed, swift and agile and will boost our capability with some serious firepower.

"The MoD and the Treasury have worked hard to get them to our troops in quick time, and they start going out to theatre early next year."
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Look at the picture...

How is this not an easy IED target?
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:17 pm | #

and yeah, Dodd isnt FOR getting rid of cheney.. he's dead wrong about that... I just agree taking cheney out wouldnt help. ( unless all his little minions are yanked on out along with him.)
Sees Things | 06.27.07 - 12:06 pm | #
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Once you can Bush/Cheny...the new Pres/VP does get rid of the minions, that is the way the executive branch is set up. The only one I would keep is Robert Gates [unless I am missing something].

And dumping Cheney would tip the balance of power to Rice/Gates who want to close Gitmo and bring some sanity to this out of control regime. Cheney is [for all relative purposes] the 1st overt American Dictator and must be overthrown. It would be a huge step for this country.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:13 pm | #

The Astounding Leo Wanta $27 Trillion Banking Crisis
http://www.rense.com/general72/c...al72/ crooks.htm
Crunch Time For The Banks And The Crooks
By Christopher Story
Editor, International Currency Review, London
WorldReports.org
6-21-6
LONDON, 21 June 2006 The integrity of the international banking system is on the line this week. This is because the behaviour of certain banks is being closely watched by a team of informed observers who are privy to scandals that the banks in question hope can still be swept under their plush boardroom carpets.

Collectively, the scandals represent the most brazen attempt by banks to seize the funds of their depositors, in history. The relevant funds, which amounted when fitfully paid out in 1989-93 to about $27.5 trillion, are now believed to be worth approaching $70 trillion. They represent assets corralled on Presidential instructions by the US Treasury's most distinguished Secret Service financial agent, Leo E. Wanta. He remains the Trustor of these funds.

The financial war chest was amassed for geostrategic purposes at the 'end of the Cold War', after Mikhail Gorbachëv had received $10 billion via certain American-assisted international financial transactions. He has since constructed a colossal headquarters campus outside Moscow, with some of this money*.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:06 pm | #

gotta take out the devil and ALL his little minions to begin to have effect.
Anonymous | 06.27.07 - 11:51 am | #

OOPS, cleared the cookie bin here...
Sees Things | 06.27.07 - 12:03 pm | #

11:11 and want it means this is a steping stone for a jurning byound the doors of enlightment with one's true self, we are approtching a new age of self awareness with god, creation and the comeing of the kingdom of god upon this land, were the laws of spirit and material will coninside...iam a lightworker iam here to make matter that dosnt' posses self spirit and give it my energy i'am here to help ..iam not here to be famous or meet people iam here to inform..there is a new age comeing be prepaird and open your mind and heart....the lightworkers are among you doing what there intended to do for god...and only god..
11:11 | 06.27.07 - 12:02 pm | #

PhRMA Launches National Campaign To Support SCHIP Reauthorization
http://www.phrma.org/news_room/p...eauthorization/
Washington, D.C. (May 21, 2007) — America’s pharmaceutical research companies launched a national education campaign today to improve awareness of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), a program which helped more than 6 million low-income children last year alone get the healthcare they need.

“For parents, there is no greater issue of importance than ensuring the health of their children,” said PhRMA President and CEO Billy Tauzin. “That’s why Congress must act quickly to reauthorize the SCHIP program which provides a critical safety net of care for children.”

To increase awareness of the program and support its reauthorization by the U.S. Congress, PhRMA’s new national television and print advertising campaign emphasizes the critical role SCHIP has played to improve the health and lives of millions of children across the nation.
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Fuck you PhRMA! No more pushing your drugs on our kids. No more pharmeceutical fascism and corporate corruption using American children as cannon fodder!
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:02 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...0607_b_Dodd.htm

Dodd is right that hauling cheney off in irons wouldnt help, but omits the fact taking cheney down would have to include every MoFo he ever recommended or appointed to positions of responsibility. reading several articles about how cheney operates, this is the obvious step towards success, gotta take out the devil and ALL his little minions to begin to have effect.
Anonymous | 06.27.07 - 11:51 am | #
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He is not right. It is critical to the country that Bush and Cheney be impeached ASAP and if Pelosi spews CFR BS, she needs to be impeached days later. And we should just go down the line until all NWO traitors to the constitution are thrown out of public servitude.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 11:58 am | #

I believe the official story of 911.
We will always be safe, comfortable, and prosperous, as long as we vote and do whatever the government decides.
We can all trust the corporate media, there are no grand conspiracies.
And I am glad the ATF brought those crazy people in Waco to justice, and cyanide gassed and burned their children. Maybe that will teach all lawbreakers and anti government types like you guys a lesson!!!

I'm going to work now, that makes me a good honest tax paying citizen.
I support an NAU, and a World government, let's all get our chips early!!! Where do we apply? Are there benefits to taking the electronic tattoo?
Plus if you get lost, they can find you.

I love it when my boss takes me in the back room and puts his finger in my rectum. He says pretty soon I will be promoted to supervisor..............
I See stupid people | 06.27.07 - 11:58 am | #

>>>TURKEY MILITARY SMELLS BLOOD
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index..._Iraq_Incursion
The head of the Turkish military spoke of the need for an incursion into northern Iraq on Wednesday, and acknowledged some planning discussions had been undertaken, but said the operation would require political directive from the government.

“I cannot say that we will go in and finish off the PKK (the Kurdistan Workers’ Party), but a cross-border operation will deliver a big blow,” Chief of General Staff Gen. Yasar Buyukanit told a televised news conference from a training camp in the southwestern town of Egirdir.

Buyukanit said the army needed a “political directive” and guidelines from the government for such an operation.

“All cross-border operations have a political target,” Buyukanit said. “Military planning starts with a political directive.

“It is one thing to go into northern Iraq to fight PKK rebels or, for example, it is another thing to come under attack from local Kurds while doing that,” Buyukanit said. “If the political target is determined, the armed forces would determine what kind of force it needs and seek formal approval.”

Buyakanit reminded reporters that he has been saying since April that a cross-border operation against the PKK in northern Iraq would be beneficial, "Today I think the same thing," Buyukanit said Wednesday, confirming that "some planning was under way."

When the current border crisis erupted in early June, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's initial response was to say that he wouldn't block a military request for authorization.

"If there are to be over-the-border operation steps taken, we will first enter into talks with our security forces, and then it will be carried to the Parliament. If a request comes from the armed forces, we will not stand in front of them. What the time comes, we will do what is needed."

But then Erdogan indicated before a meeting with his military commanders two weeks ago that he would resist calls for an incursion into northern Iraq, saying Ankara was concentrating on fighting rebels who are currently active on Turkish territory.

"There are 5,000 terrorists in the mountains in Turkey. Is the struggle against them over? Is this issue resolved so that we can come to dealing with the 500 terrorists in northern Iraq?" Erdogan was quoted as saying by the Anatolia news agency.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said more recently that the Turkish government would authorize a military cross-border operation into northern Iraq to crack down on Kurdish PKK rebels if required.

"We are continuing discussions with the armed forces. If needed we will take the necessary steps (for a cross-border operation) because we cannot allow the PKK any longer to carry out attacks."
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Kissinger/Cheney own Turkey, we need to close this loophole to US foreign policy and get the fuck out of the WWIII zone now!
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 11:35 am | #

Journalist, Father of Five, Killed in Baghdad
Iraqi Reporter Killed in Hail of Gunfire Last Night
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...lled_in_Baghdad
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 11:33 am | #

Iraqi Papers Wed: Govt Min Sought for Murders
Where's Elusive Culture Minister?; Maliki Considering Govt Reshuffle
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...ght_for_Murders
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 11:32 am | #

Photo of the Day: Baquba Bodies-Dozens of Bodies of Iraqi Men Are Lined Up on Ground Outside Hospital
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...y_Baquba_Bodies
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WTF are we still doing in this meat grinder training camp for US Fascism???
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 11:31 am | #

I see stupid people never has any facts, he talks about having a real jop, yeah right, He makes no sense, he is definately some-one who could care the less about what is good for the country. I saw the list of richest people and boy to they have every reason in the world to head us off. If we the people stop backing thier Pyrimid scheme, their fortunes become worthless.
Fuck you seeing stupid people | 06.27.07 - 11:05 am | #

Polluter-In-Chief
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
Cheney Undercuts Environmental Regulations For Business Benefits… Whitman Resigned EPA Post Over His Insistence On Easing Air Pollution Controls…Major “Pet Peeve” Was Yellowstone Snowmobile Ban…Pushed For Yucca Mountain To Be Nuclear Dumping Ground
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:59 am | #

a 'civilian' company whose name is Controlled Demolitions Inc.

THE WRECKING BALL
http://video.google.ca/videoplay...eoplay...earch& plindex=0
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 10:54 am | #
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Get a good look at their faces because if you ever see them coming out of a highrise...

NEVER WALK IN THAT HIGHRISE AGAIN!
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:56 am | #

To JAKE, again.

No sir, I believe you're wrong about that -- thermite is available to anyone with $$ // not reserved for only the military -- as I understand it.

The military use it because it does have it's purpose(s) but it can be also useful by others, especially those in the 'civilian' demolition business.

The compound thermate cuts through thick solid steel like a hot knife might cut through butter (or so I am told by those in the know). RDX (an assortment of explosive compounds) can be seen in use in this video produced by the History Channel -- not military folks, but a 'civilian' company whose name is Controlled Demolitions Inc.

THE WRECKING BALL
http://video.google.ca/videoplay...earch& plindex=0
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 10:54 am | #

Pentagon Revises Position On Gays In The Military
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...-gays-military/
Today, the Service Members Legal Defense Network released a Pentagon statement that “includes the first language from Pentagon leaders suggesting that lesbian and gay service personnel should continue to use their skills in support of national security efforts, even after facing dismissal under the law.” The statement reads:

These separated members have the opportunity to continue to serve their nation and national security by putting their abilities to use by way of civilian employment with other Federal agencies, the Department of Defense, or in the private sector, such as with a government contractor.

The Pentagon’s statement recognizing gays marks a positive step forward. In the 1990’s, the military’s policy was that “homosexuality is incompatible with military service,” claiming the prohibition was necessary for “group cohesion.” In March, backed by Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, Gen. Peter Pace controversially claimed that the “military should not condone immoral acts,” referring to homosexuality.

But the Pentagon still will not call for the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” Since the policy was instituted in 1993, at least 11,000 servicemembers, hundreds of whom had key speciality skills such as training in Arabic, have been forced out of service. With our currently overstretched armed forces, the military could lure as many as 41,000 recruits if gays could serve openly.

With the State Department facing a dearth of Arabic translators, yesterday, Reps. Tom Lantos (D-CA) and Gary Ackerman (D-NY) urged the Department to hire bilingual gays expelled from the military as a result of DADT:

We are writing to urge the Department of State to take a specific step — the hiring of our unfairly dismissed, language-qualified soldiers — so our nation might salvage something positive from the lamentable results of this benighted policy. … under-investment in critical foreign languages presents an urgent and immediate threat to our national security, a threat that cannot be ignored while we train new foreign-language experts.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:47 am | #

Justice Department Lies, Whitewashes Administration’s Failure To Comply With FOIA
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...ce-foia-comply/
In Dec. 2005, President Bush issued an executive order mandating that federal agencies better administrate the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). The order stipulated that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales would submit reports documenting agencies’ progress in meeting FOIA “milestones.”

In its June 2007 report, the DoJ proclaimed “diligent and measurable progress” in FOIA compliance across the federal government. FOIA activists, however, claim the DoJ has wildly overstated its success, as the new DoJ report distorts and misleads on key benchmarks:

Claim #1: Agencies are making “significant progress” with FOIA. The DOJ reported that more than half of the agencies successfully met their milestones, “and that 90 percent made meaningful progress.” But the report’s graphics show that only 11 of 25 agencies met all their milestones, and three agencies did not meet a single target.

Claim #2: Agencies have decreased the number of unprocessed FOIA requests. “The report cites no data to support the claim. … The number of unprocessed requests among the 25 agencies highlighted actually increased 13 percent.” In fact, several agencies, such as Housing and Urban Development, State Department, and Homeland Security, piled on FOIA backlogs at faster rate than they received requests. “Three agencies — NASA, the CIA and Treasury — reported fewer requests but their backlogs still rose.”

Bush’s DoJ has opposed FOIA reform and open-government efforts for years. In the 109th Congress, the Department “squelched efforts to pass the OPEN Government Act.” Last month, Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) blocked a bipartisan attempt to update FOIA because of the Justice Department’s concern that “it could force them to reveal sensitive information.”

According to Meredith Fuchs of the National Security Archives, the report “is essentially smoke and mirrors designed to discourage Congress from enacting a law that would mandate improvement in FOIA processing.”
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:45 am | #

LOL, now you all think sane is Jesus? Why am I not surprised?
I See Stupid People | 06.27.07 - 10:24 am | #
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Amuzed, you are way behind, let me fill you in...

Rich is a pawn for a Rep/Dem candidate that is attempting to relate RP to the American Nazi Party [similar setup like the one fictionalized in "Death to Smoochy"]. When he was called out on this and went running around like a headless chicken with cries of shame, he had to think up personal attacks on anything the posters who outed him said [I being one of them].

After attempting to catch me in "Kerry moments" then repeated these sentence fragments ad infinitum, I called him out on again lack of logic, evidence, references, or truth of any kind. This finally had him so dazed with his failure that he is now trying to say I am a jesus in some [for the 3rd time] shallow attempt to dissuade truth from being heard. Like the other 2 times, he will fail at this too.

To Bad we are not playing baseball, otherwise he would be out

For reference look at the last 3 days on the 33rd thread (just start here and then look at any other post by Rich going upward. It really gets surreal near the end. If you are loo lazy just look at the last 20 posts or so on the 33rd thread.[wow 33rd, hmmm...]:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=42885#100545
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:41 am | #

Senate committee approves war czar.

In a 22-2 vote, the Senate Armed Services Committee yesterday approved the nomination of Lt. Gen. Douglas E. Lute to become the Bush administration’s new war czar. A vote in the full Senate “could come this week.”
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This is fucking crazy. Lynn Cheney's AEI [NGO that owns Busah, Thompson, many others] was the one that created the war czar position as well as the Patriot Act, MCA, Iraq War, Surge I, II, and III, Iran War, 911, 7/7, VT, JFK fake-plot, and just about every fucked up thing in the past 6 years.

This position does not exist in the framework of the executive branch and bypasses the NSA, Secretary of Defense, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

It was created as a way for NGO's to "fully own" the foreign policy agenda of the US, bypassing all checks and balances.

AEI's Newt Gingrich proposed this 6 months ago and I thought it would be quickly realized how treasonous this new fake position is.

But, the Senate is a fucking pawn to the VP and if they accepted this cancer on US foreign policy [especially in the middle of the self afflicted wounds Cheney has waged] they will undoubtedly accept the Easy-to-Temper National ID Card/Amnesty Bill.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:28 am | #

LOL, now you all think sane is Jesus?

Why am I not surprised?
I See Stupid People | 06.27.07 - 10:24 am | #

Bill Moyers, The Secret government and it's origins. 1987
http://video.google.com/videopla...900925247& hl=en
Take care
Scanner | 06.27.07 - 10:05 am | #
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One of the most important documentaries for every American to see. This should be shown in grade school and secondary school.It represents a greater past, current, and future threat than terrorism, global warming, or even a fuure extraterrestrial attack. Watch it many times and watch other documentaries by Bill Moyers to understand the inner workings of the United States.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:15 am | #

CIA paid off Nixon bombing backers-$33,000 paid to those who thanked Nixon for Cambodia invasion.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomber...rg/ adr1egpkkeo0
Angry protests flare in Iran over gas rationing-Youths torch stations, long lines form at pumps after Iran begins fuel rationing.
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ Ang...p_06272007.html
New study links Nutrasweet, cancer-FDA says 'no need' to review safety of drug Rumsfeld got approved.
http://rawstory.com/ showarticle....2623862983.html
Billionaire hosts Clinton fundraiser
http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...onnaire- bu.html
Group: China detains 8 church leaders
http://rawstory.com/ showoutartic...FD8Q11O9O0.html
Graphic: Images 'of Iraq birth defects' -[finally Raw Story goes where others dare not!]
http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/ V...eformities.html
New questions on Cheney, 9/11
http://digg.com/world_news/ Norma...nd_Down_on_9_11
Wiretapping today dwarfs CIA 'jewels'
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ti...warfs_0626.html
Murdoch agreement 'not on paper'
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ New...d_06262007.html
Court's close-call rulings lean right
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....s% 3D102x2894797
US probing arms co. over Saudi deals
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ BAE...u_06262007.html
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:08 am | #

Bill Moyers, The Secret government and it's origins. 1987
http://video.google.com/videopla...900925247& hl=en
Take care
Scanner | 06.27.07 - 10:05 am | #

You are a Jesus, only you can save us from the evil only you can see.....
Rich | 06.27.07 - 7:07 am | #
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Dude I ain't no jesus, gandhi, mlk, or x.

just a concerned american who started blogging 3 m onths ago.

it don't take jesus to see you have an obvious agenda.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 10:02 am | #

Sane, since Cheney is an anti-semite Nazi, what does that make Scooter Libby? If they are on opposite sides, why are they on the same side?
Why does the WHO IS WHO of Zionism, all want scooter libby set free? Do Zionists want Nazis freed? Only you can see the illuminati nazi conspiracy, so help us out here. SAVE THE WORLD. You are a Jesus, only you can save us from the evil only you can see.....
Rich | 06.27.07 - 7:07 am | #
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Scooter Libby = pawn that writes about girl being stuck in a cage with a raping bear

Dick Cheney = an evil evil man
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 9:55 am | #

JBIRD

The thing about Thermite is that the only people who possess it are the military. And they don't need God, they have power.

These are the days Jesus warned us about.

These are the kind of events that will reach Biblical proportions...planetary enslavement under the antichrist and one-world government.

That sounds EXACTLY like what Alex Jones et al are talking about.

Wait until they cut the food and water supply....all hell will break lose.

Trust in the Lord with all your might, for He is well able to protect you from the coming shit-storm.

Only with your eyes, will you see the judgment of the wicked...it shall not come near those who are under the protection of Jesus of Nazareth.
jake | 06.27.07 - 9:51 am | #

No offense intended JAKE, I mean that seriously.

Yes, I believe that 9/11 can be linked to Jesus Christ (for all those souls that died that day at the hands of the evil doers) and I know that Jesus told us that where your heart lies, so lies your treasure. And if your heart is in the right place in what you say and how you say it -- It is not up to me to question that. Just an observation I made that your words seems to be missing the target (the people that truly need to hear it) // It's almost like preaching to the choir, in other words.

Wanna talk bible talk for a moment longer? Here's something that I find absolutely fascinating:

Recently Professor Steven E. Jones made mention of a discovery wherein thermate (an explosive compound) is without a shadow of a doubt present in the World Trade Center DUST. He discovered this recently upon doing a closer electron microscope examination of the dust and found the exact signature of said thermate. Not something to be so easily dismissed as evidence -- not as easily as it was for the evil doers in disposing of all that WTC steel quickly after 9/11. The secret remained trapped in the dust.

He also pointed out that in ISAIAH 29:4 there is reference to the voices speaking to us from the dust, revealing the truth. That gives me a chill but it also reinforces my belief in a superior being watching over all of us. No secrets kept from Him.

Here's a King James version translation of that passage: And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, anbd thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.

SEE WHAT I MEAN?
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 9:25 am | #

The culprits who are responsible for 9-11 and the illegal wars of occupation in iraq and afghanistan are known to God, and they are not going anywhere.

It must needs be that offenses come, but WOE UNTO HIM THROUGH WHOM THEY COME.
jake | 06.27.07 - 9:23 am | #

i see stupid people spends too much time looking at himself in the mirror.

How we see others is shaped by how we see ourselves. Most people project their own fears and prejudices onto others in an effort not to deal with their own psychological shortcomings.

If your eye be light, your whole body will be full of light; but if your eye be darkness, how great is that darkness?
jake | 06.27.07 - 9:19 am | #

JBIRD

My point being on this forum occassionally is to get the truth.

Jesus says He is the truth.

9-11 truth and Jesus Christ are related.
jake | 06.27.07 - 9:15 am | #

To ISSP:

No, see there, you're wrong. Completely wrong. Just because I respond to your idiotic comments doesn't mean anything more than what I've said. It doesn't bother me what you say (or write) because you're a dumbass and like I said earlier -- not someone I should be pointing fingers at or making fun of. I feel sorry for you. Truly.

You've got a sick mind and a twisted sense of reality thinking you're important and with some ability to understand reaction. Just look at what it is you say (and write) -- if you can do that and NOT figure out someone might find you offensive then you're really lost. A lost cause anyway, I'm sure of that without further exchange with you.

Try and have a nice day.
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 9:14 am | #

OMG...

They actually pay you spam. What a job. Or do you call it a "career"? A living?

LOL
curious | 06.27.07 - 9:12 am | #

Later moonbats.

Off to work... a real job... which obviously most of you do NOT have.

I will see you again tomorrow, or maybe the next day.

I know you will miss me.
I See Stupid People | 06.27.07 - 9:11 am | #

To JAKE. I for one believe that Jesus is the Christ; my savior. Don't know (??) exactly what your remarks have to do with this forum // seems like you have something of importance to say -- but my suggestion would be put it in writing and send it to those that did 9/11 on us and sent our innocent and misinformed but brave soldiers off to an unjust war. Those are the ones needing your message more so than most of us // not the brave soldiers, they're not the ones that need hear your message -- the ones that sent them off to war, they're the ones that can't hear it enough in my opinion.
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 9:09 am | #

LOL, got ya! If you read my posts you know I could care less what you really think. I come here to yank chains and you bought it.

If what I say does not matter, why does it bother you so much?

I have obviously struck a nerve about you and gabe.

I KNEW IT!

LOL

Retards
I See Stupid People | 06.27.07 - 9:09 am | #

ISSP: Ha ha ha ha!!!

One of the worst. Ha ha ha ha!!! I can't believe you, you are so simple-minded, but funny, at times. My mother told me years ago not to point and make fun of people such as you -- birth defects, that kind of thing -- and I admit I do forget that at times. My apologies for calling you on your stupid remarks. But you know what? They are. You're mind seems to stay in the gutter. You've definitely got some strange sick hang up regarding "man sex' (to use one of your earlier words) -- you're just simple-minded and sick (mentally). Have a nice day.

PS
You might want to seriously consider contributing something of substance to this forum other than allowing yourself to slip in the gutter like you do. Perhaps share with us your vast undisputed knowledge on the subject of world events and/or 9/11 as that seems to be closer to the topics presented herein. Just my polite way of encouraging you to participate a bit more on an adult level // but do wash you hands and zip up those trousers before you come out to play with all of us. Okay? Thanks for your attention.

Clink on the link provided // are you afraid of some unnamed computer virus? You make it sound as if you have reservations regarding the same -- you do have a virus checker installed don't you? For whatever it's worth -- I would not knowingly provide a contaminated link // not even to YOU, forum friend.
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 9:04 am | #

The human heart is desperately wicked and deceitful above all else, who can trust it?

Put not your faith in princes nor trust in the sons of men, for each one follows what is in their own self-interest; there is none that seek for God, no not one.

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word of God, are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night: in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat; the earth also, and the works that are there in shall be burned up.

For if you believe not that Jesus Christ is Lord, you shall die in your sins.
jake | 06.27.07 - 8:52 am | #

What’s that link to? Another cartoon? Maybe how Dick Cheney is really the Silver Surfer?

LOL

Retards.

jbrid, you are one of the worst. Right up there with gay-boy gabe.

You two married yet, or just living together?
I See Stupid People | 06.27.07 - 8:51 am | #

"when the action gets hot keep the rhetoric cool" Richard Milhaus Nixon - all of the cool customers need indictments, Kissinger, Brezinski, The Bush crime family, the nazi radio bloviators, the traitors voting yea, on the illegal alien invasion proclamation S.1639, anyone who launched a cruise missle, press for indictment they must atone for 911
Snake Plisken | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 8:48 am | #

ISSP:

Which one of these people in this video are you???
http://www.brentrasmussen.com/lo...m/log/node/ 1125
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 8:41 am | #

The Presidential Forum is scheduled for Saturday, June 30th in Des Moines, Iowa. It is being co-sponsored by the Iowa Christian Alliance and Iowans for Tax Relief. Attendees include Rep. Tancredo, Sen. Brownback, Rep. Hunter, Gov. Thompson, Gov. Huckabee, and Gov. Romney. Invitations were also extended to Sen. McCain, Mayor Giuliani and Gov. Gilmore.
____________________
AND THE JOKE IS; These select jerks in Iowa actually think that by calling themselves CHRISTIAN // that they are. Like I said -- and the joke is ...
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 8:39 am | #

LOL, I just realized something. You all spend as much time congratulating yourselves and patting each other on the back as you do posting your idiotic psychobabble.

No wonder you think you are the saviors of the world, exposing evil.

LMFAO

Still reading comic books?

Dumbasses
I See Stupid People | 06.27.07 - 8:37 am | #

They are indirectly telling us that they know Dr. Paul will be followed as was Gandhi. They blew it
Snake Plisken | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 8:32 am | #

This feels lik old news, but at least it's official proof of what everyone in Cyprus, Turkish and Greek alike, knows..that Kissinger had a literal hand in the coup!...we keep on blaming the British but it's clear that the US is the worse offender!
OTS | 06.27.07 - 8:31 am | #

That stuff about how many Americans still believe that Iraq had WMD -- this is why (sad but true):
http://www.brentrasmussen.com/lo...m/log/node/ 1125
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 8:21 am | #

Tancredo Campaign: Presidential Candidate Tancredo Calls for Rep. Paul to be Included in Iowa Presidential Forum
6/26/2007

http://www.iowapolitics.com/inde...l? Article=98957
R.R.N. | 06.27.07 - 8:17 am | #

Important !

Paul denies report he compared NH tax evaders to Gandhi

http://www.boston.com/news/ local...denies_rep.html
R.R.N. | 06.27.07 - 8:16 am | #

Here's an EXAMPLE of brainwashing // say it enough and people will start believing the lies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h? v=Z0Ag395cqUM
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 8:14 am | #

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------

Please try the following:

If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.

Open the www.prisonplanet.com home page, and then look for links to the information you want.
Click the Back button to try another link.
Click Search to look for information on the Internet.

HTTP 404 - File not found
Internet Explorer

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Prison Planet, can you please check the link on the Blair meets Swarchenegger story. the above is all I can see. based in UK, maybe it's blocked from this end.
cop-KILLA | 06.27.07 - 8:12 am | #

The Tao of Ron Paul!!!

Must Read

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8...ig8/ bryan1.html
R.R.N. | 06.27.07 - 8:11 am | #

“Dr. No” Doesn’t Say No To Spending In His District

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlin...es/ 8188982.html
R.R.N. | 06.27.07 - 8:06 am | #

Larson Praises Republican on YouTube

http://www.courant.com/news/loca...headlines- local
R.R.N. | 06.27.07 - 7:45 am | #

Gave me a good laugh this morning. Leave It To Beaver thing. Thanks.

I liked the reference to Al Capone and the baseball bat // THUMP // a perfect example of how much like truly care so little for each other -- they're just out for their own survival at the expense of anyone and everyone who might otherwise disagree or get in the way.
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 7:32 am | #

Ceasar//.
Held the power of life or death over his people. Exactly as our executive office does today. They invade nations and ruled them, extracted payment or taxes, exactly as we do. The words, or rhetoric may have changed as have the weaponry but the methods are quite simular.
Hitler// controlled a nation, he began his supremacy over the German people using FEAR. as his primary method. Please remer this, after he achieved complete control, he dominated a nation.
The stories of S.S. atrocities began with torture of those who disgreed with Adolf and the Nazi Regime. The News Media was controled by the Regime. Does this ring a bell.
Bush and cheney have taken this method a step further, for what they have accomplished in these few years was a aceleration of the domination process. Human Sacrifice.,treason,crimes against humanity. The takedown of America.
chris jones | 06.27.07 - 7:28 am | #

ty jbrid
love ya bro
maybe she hangs out in her slippers and makes coffee for her dick
fetches the paper and prpares breakfast
like the cleavers
all the while plotting the extermination of 80% of the worlds population
never mind the little things
we may have to give credit where credit is due
shes bringin home the bacon
fryin it up in a pan

just some humor
gotta go to work
see you guys in guantanimo
baldmanace | 06.27.07 - 7:26 am | #

remember the scene in the untouchables when deniro is walkingaround the round table describing baseball
then THUMP
same thing happens with theses criminal elite bastards
every so often someones gotta thump someone else to show of force exercize control and demonstrate power
they will eat their own if it puffs them up or covers up feels up wuts up
your arguements are one dimentional dumbass
this world wide threat is supradimentional
and you have stopped at your hate and taken residence
like those before you
you have been dragged into a q&a that you dont have the answer to
so you latch onto the hate jews lifering
or hate zionist lifeboat
or HATE anything raft
it must make all your shattered psychy pieces fall right into place
when you wake up and a jew is healing your wounds and a ?zionist bastard? is paying your bill
you will pray to your HATE demigod and wish for death before your version of dishonor
baldmanace | 06.27.07 - 7:21 am | #

To BALDMANACE -- Good points you make there // the evil female witch thing amongt others. I'm not so surprised by female involvement -- I think of Coindi Rice -- I think of EPA Whitman // to name two.

But, again, you make a damn fine point and good observation as usual. Thanks.

My hang up as regards Mrs. Cheney is that she was 'available' at that early hour on September
11th, 2001 to be by her husband's side there in the buniker. Who took the time to go get her at that hour? Was she already there, and if so, why? Seems to me that prior knowledge thing keeps creeping in.
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 7:12 am | #

good morning rich bot
r u some one else in disruise?
rich
???????
how many jew haters does it take to screw in a light bulb?
baldmanace | 06.27.07 - 7:08 am | #

Sane, since Cheney is an anti-semite Nazi, what does that make Scooter Libby? If they are on opposite sides, why are they on the same side?
Why does the WHO IS WHO of Zionism, all want scooter libby set free?
Do Zionists want Nazis freed?

Only you can see the illuminati nazi conspiracy, so help us out here. SAVE THE WORLD. You are a Jesus, only you can save us from the evil only you can see.....
Rich | 06.27.07 - 7:07 am | #

Mr. Cheney.
Is a man capable of of anything that will fullfill the goals of the Elitists. Money,power, and control being the basic equation.
NORAD, is the most highly tech. military tracking center on this planet. In short, they are our protection, our sheild against invasion.
It would require either an act of God or a executive order to stand dwon these professionals if a threat to America is tracked. The response time to this threat and the capabilitys of the fighter pilots who respond are an example of the most highly trained professionals on the globe.
Therfor the truth, the facts, not theorys, prove a executive order for a standown was given prioity.
Only one branch of Govement is capable of this order, the white house.
This senario was in fact the murder of American citizens. Not theory. This treasonous act was a crime against Americans and foreigners alike, this act was a crime against humanity to further their goal which in part was manipulation of the masses to insure a illegal invasion into the Soveriegn nation of Iraq.
Homeland security was a piece of cake for the administration after 911, they now have spent billions of tax dollars to fullfill only one of their phases of domination. Homeland security was not necessary for America and its citizens, it was a ploy to further their power of us the citizens.
Verfied by our Military, and suprisingly by Mr. Powell himself, there were no WMD's in Iraq. This is fact, no theory, however the FEAR this country encountered after 911 made it easy for the executive office to Invade Iraq, by the way killing over 760,000 civilians.
We are manipulated Nation, deceived by a elite group who will do anything, no holds barred to gain their power over us, and of course other nations.
The bullet that killed JFK, mortaly wounded America. And so the war in Vitnam esclated, as did the elites profit and power. 911 killed America as we know it. This abomination and others is Human Sacrifice for power, money, control.
chris jones | 06.27.07 - 7:06 am | #

hey jbrid
it shouldnt shock anybody to know that a woman was a driving force behind the 911 clockwork
they have used woman as a criminal tool for decades
i think the psychological advantage is the tipping of the power scales
a woman will go the extra mile of evil when turned to the dark side (penis envy i think)
once theyve tasted the blood, they constantly crave more and more
blood thirsty witchy woman vamps
it is not surprising that most of the so called voodoo woman, witches, some bad queens, and the whore that rides the scarlet beast have one thing in common
gonaherpasifilaids
i think
i may be wrong
or not
baldmanace | 06.27.07 - 7:05 am | #

Sane, why do you go on about Cheney. In your own words to me, you know nothing about Cheney.

How did JINSA Cheny become an anti-Semite? I mean, besides your fantasies run wild.

Cheney is the #1 Zionist in Washington. His 'Scooter' Libby is headed to prison, from treason with the Zionists.

How is it that the more Zionist crimes he does, the less Zionist he becomes? When the facts are what you want.. they are facts. When the facts (nearly all of them) are the OPPOSITE of what you want.. they are a 'secret illuminati conspiracy' and thus, reverso-facts.

It would be nice for you to go into detail explaining Cheney's relationship with JINSA, but all you will do is spam weblinks, never answer the direct question, and scramble to change the subject.

The ONLY people going into your supposed eath-camps.. will be WHITE CHRISTIAN 'anti-Semites' who don't LOVE ISRAEL like you do.

Also sane, (it is very difficult to get any straight answers out of you)

LIST FOR US - the racial/national/political groups of the world in order of them NOT BEING CONTROLLED BY YOUR ILLUMINATI. List for us, the people 'good and wise and superior enough to AVOID being controlled by the illuminati'

Here I'll start your list for you:

TOP OF THE LIST: Jews - are the greatest of all humans, above Illuminati membership and control.

BOTTOM OF THE LIST: White Christians, totally the backbone and blood of the evil illuminati mind control.

Fill in the middle. Does ANYONE rank as HIGH as the superior Jews? or are they ALONE and all other lower humans crawl as illuminati agents? enlighten us...
Rich | 06.27.07 - 7:02 am | #

As a follow up on that Mrs. Cheney thing -- I went to Richard A. Clarke's book 'AGAINST ALL ENEMIES' and found this on page 18:

In the Presidential Emergency Operations Center the castwas decidedly more political. In addition to the Vice President and Condi Rice, there was the Vice President's wife, Lynn; his political advisor Mary Matalin, his security advisor, Scooter Libby; Deputy White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten; and Whtie House communications director Karen Hughes. The monitors were simultaneously blaring the coverage from five networks.

On one screen, I could see the Situation Room. I grabbed Mike Fenzel. "How's it going over here?" I asked.

"It's fine," Major Fenzel whispered, "but I can't hear the crisis conference because Mrs. Cheney keeps turning down the volume on you so she can hear CNN . . . and the Vice President keeps hanging up the open line to you." Mrs. Cheney was more than just a family member who had to be protected. Like her husband, she was a right-wing ideologue and she was offering her advice and opinions in the bunker.

etc., etc.
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 6:39 am | #

Isn't it amazing that we are now learning that Mrs Cheney was also present in the White House bunker along with members of Cheney's staff (him too of course) when former Secretary of Transportation Minetta arrived --

So all that stuff about how the Secret Service grabbed him and rushed him away to safety seems a bit weaker in reality, considering.

Considering that it took some time (minutes, hours) to get all those folks together at that early hour // almost sounds as if THEY had inside knowledge that things were about to unfold -- How else can such a group be explained (to include Mrs. Cheney's presence!!!)?

Of course they knew, they knew the exact time and date of the attack -- and just made damn sure they stepped along in the right direction so as not to get in the way of everyone else running around frantic like a chicken without its head that morning. Of course they knew // and took a little extra precaution to protect their loved ones (that's why Mrs. Cheney was beside her husband, of course) just in case something went amiss with all those airplanes and/or missiles flying around that morning. That's why.
jbrid1138 | 06.27.07 - 6:22 am | #

800+ death camps... Are you too scared to talk about small townfolks being burned in ovens... sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:15 pm | #

Not at all, ...however while the perpetrators of the last gassing and burning spree remain both at large, and protected by complicit journalism, I see it as my role to bring them to heel in the first instance and to the gallows in the next... Katherine Schweitzer is the latest Jew to die in the Ashkenazi assault which is what The Holocaust was. I want to prosecute her killer or killers and that looks like Mossad... The fact that I am alone in this does not mean that my endevours are without merit, it just indicates the level of enemy infiltration... War on Israel.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:55 pm | #
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Are you sure it is Mossad, what if you were wrong like Hitler was and end up having to shoot Eva in the head before you popped yourself in the skull as a coward leading other's to die for your misguided hate.

Buy that would suck wouldn't it.

I guess history repeats itself for those who do not read and just toss out random statements as if they have any basis in reality.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 3:30 am | #

I like to wear my sisters clothes and panty hose, but when my dad caught me he beat me up............
I still bear the emotional scars, and cry when I masturbate looking at gay porn on the net.
I See stupid people | 06.27.07 - 3:30 am | #

OMG, do you assholes have a life other than running around trying not to get hit by pieces of sky?

LMAO

What a bunch of retards.
I See Stupid People | 06.27.07 - 2:28 am | #

Yeah we are funny, hey amuzed:

there were 600 Cheney/Halliburton death camps last year, 800 last month, how many are there now? Can you walk into the VP's office and ask?
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 3:28 am | #

OMG, do you assholes have a life other than running around trying not to get hit by pieces of sky?

LMAO

What a bunch of retards.
I See Stupid People | 06.27.07 - 2:28 am | #

Motassadeq Loses Appeal
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,482445,00.html
After a legal marathon that lasted five years, Mounir el Motassadeq has lost his final appeal against his conviction for involvement in the Sept. 11 terror plot. Germany's Federal Court of Justice has rejected his appeal, meaning he will now spend 15 years in jail. more...

Madrid Terror Trial Is Broadcast on the Internet
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,481733,00.html
The trial of the men accused of carrying out the Madrid train bombings in 2004 is being broadcast live on television and the Internet. The Spaniards believe that this type of publicity can help them establish the truth. By Helene Zuber more...

Five Years After 9/11, Bin Laden's Network Is Back
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,476324,00.html
As Western intelligence agencies are discovering, al-Qaida is by no means finished. Training camps have reappeared in Afghanistan and now in Pakistan, as Osama bin Laden's terrorist network regains its strength. By Yassin Musharbash more...

500 Terror Attacks in EU in 2006 - But Only 1 by Islamists
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,476599,00.html
There were almost 500 acts of terrorism across the European Union in 2006 -- but only one, the foiled suitcase bomb plot in Germany, was related to Islamist terror, a new EU report reveals. Meanwhile the trial of one of the main suspects in the German plot has been adjourned in Lebanon. more...

'Guantanamo Sends the Wrong Signal to the Muslim World'
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,475676,00.html
Ernst Uhrlau, 60, president of the German foreign intelligence agency, the BND, discusses the groups hoping to benefit from al-Qaida's brand name, the damage done to the US's reputation by Guantanamo and the threat from Iran. more...

The US Prepares its First Guantanamo Trials
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,475676,00.html
The Pentagon is launching its first trials of long-term detainees at Guantanamo. The trials will take place before military tribunals, which grant very few rights to defense attorneys. Ironically, it became clear long ago that the overwhelming majority of the prisoners at Guantanamo were not terrorists. By Britta Sandberg in Washington more...

Terrorism Trial Opens After Almost Three Years
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,473018,00.html
The survivors of a terrorist cell accused of the 2004 Madrid train bombings went on trial Thursday in Spain, where up to 650 witnesses may testify in the coming months. The trial follows a long international investigation. more...

Terror Suspect Zammar Gets Twelve Years
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,465783,00.html
The German-Syrian Mohammed Haydar Zammar has been given a 12-year sentence by a court in Damascus. A friend of the 9/11 leader Mohammed Atta, Zammar was one of the first victims of the CIA's so-called "extraordinary renditions" program. Now he has been convicted of being a member of the banned Muslim Brotherhood. more...

US to Set Up Military HQ for Africa in Germany
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,464827,00.html
The US has announced plans to set up a new military command headquarters for Africa, reflecting the continent's increasing strategic importance in the war against terror. The HQ will initially be based in Stuttgart, according to media reports. more...

Munich to US: "Don't Send Your CIA Thugs out into Europe's Streets"
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,463765,00.html
In a historic first, German prosecutors have issued arrest warrants for 13 suspected CIA agents thought to have illegally kidnapped a German citizen as part of the war on terror. The decision has been universally welcomed by German commentators. more...
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 1:54 am | #

I appreciate all the time and energy and passion all you people put into the effort to educate people to the facts. HATS OFF!
finalchance in Texas | 06.27.07 - 1:04 am | #

Google Threatens to End E-Mail Service in Germany
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490492,00.html
If a proposed German surveillance law goes into effect unchanged in 2008, Google says, it would shut down Gmail for German customers rather than comply.

Opinion: Watching Your Every Move
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,488522,00.html
Data Retention: Europe's Plan to Track Phone and Net Use
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,467475,00.html

Germany Reports New Bird Flu Infections
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490500,00.html
In the first cases to emerge in a year, officials in the Bavarian city of Nuremberg have reported deadly outbreaks of the H5N1 strain of bird flu.

BP's Russian Deal Oils the Wheels
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490484,00.html
It looks like the London energy company has formed a strategic alliance with state-owned Gazprom that will improve the situation for both.

The Fresh Impetus that Europe Desperately Needs
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490304,00.html
All of Europe's internal divisions were revealed at the Brussels summit. Once again, selfish national interests were promoted with tricks, threats and embarrassing haggling. Nevertheless, the result is a step forward for the European Union.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:58 am | #

Holy shit I missed this until now...

The head of Fred Thompson's AEI was in the bunker with Big Dick before the plane hit the Pentagon!!!!!

Lynn Cheney!

WTF was she doing there?

Where the hell was Laura???

Who is running this country???
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:53 am | #

sane
you crack me up
i thought the same thing
when i first started checking michael out
it was just a turnaround after reviewing what he had online for free
then i saw what he had on dvd from his website
and his webpage
i gotta give credit where credit is due
hes firin' on all cylinders, and there is much truth in him
i still do want to check out his 22 dvd set
maybe that would change my initial (8 hrs worth) mind
but even so
he grew on me quick, and i endorse researching his research as worth the time at least
baldmanace | 06.27.07 - 12:04 am | #
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Damn another fricking 8 hours of research, not like I ain't asking for it.

Thanks guys, I promise to empty my cup for the 100th time before viewing again, and I will try to not get hung up on the accent.
sane | Homepage | 06.27.07 - 12:40 am | #

cop killa?
i get your point
i share your disdain for bullshmidt
and i will call bullshmidt if it is warranted
i dont know the extent of your knowledge or experience with God or Jesus or The Bible
if you ever want to see stuff on absolute fact based research into the bible or Christ
check out the life work of Dr. Thomas Hoyle out of Tacoma WA
he has dedicated his entire proffessional life to scouring the earth for physical and written evidence of all things God and Christ and bible
david j smith is another endless bottomless limitless resource for biblical fact based historical reference and evidence points, validated, tracked and catalogued
i love a good chalenge
but its really not my job
i would point anyone in the best direction i can offer
but im allready taken this conversation far past my "zone"
you arent fighting me or what i may know
the fight is with your own research, time invested, and truly seeking the truth in regards to God, The Bible, and Christ
i gotta go to bed
i love all you guys
you are my family online
God Truly Bless you all
baldmanace | 06.27.07 - 12:15 am | #

me last post went a bit haywire, i'm tired and calling it a day 4 today, see ya laterrs.
cop-KILLA | 06.27.07 - 12:12 am | #

i appreciate a view that God is a fantasy or Jesus is a myth
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 11:36 pm | #
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I didn't say God is fantasy or that Jesus wasn't real, I think possibly he did, but you or anyone else alive today for that matter, cannot prove one way or the other, as to what the text's are saying, they are interpreted for us, do you speak fluent ancient Hebrew??? I think not. Not even Half the Jewish Scholars understand it today, and it was 2000 years ago.
As sane refers to Steven Jones's, evidence is required, and must be spelt out ABC 123, so there are no misunderstandings at all.

But I take this a little further, If you are able to trust the Teacher because you can see him, and understanding everyone is human, but the intent is to delve into the rabbit hole looking for answers, then we are able to go further than science is.
Wasn't it science who said the Maya were foolish to have a calander tracking 16.4 billion years of evolution. [which they still disagree with]
Didn't science tell us the Helicopter was impossible, and that the world was flat.

If that is science and stuff we can test, then Religion's have 0.0% credibility, with me.
cop-KILLA | 06.27.07 - 12:02 am | #

go get 'em FF
do a press release when you get the goods
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 11:59 pm | #

sane c'mon man?
you like michael dont you?
tell the truth
you can do it!!!!!!!!!!!
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 11:56 pm | #
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Before tonight I just thought he was a fearmongering pompous dick, but I will aquiesce to GAK, Killa, and you to take another gander at the evidence.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:59 pm | #

sane c'mon man?
you like michael dont you?
tell the truth
you can do it!!!!!!!!!!!
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 11:56 pm | #

But if you do come accross evidence of connections to illuminati please let me know, it's always interesting to see history's.
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 11:41 pm | #

I will look into it, I have no direct evidence and I do not think he is a current part of illuminati. I just think he has been exposed to that world, like freeman and russo to an extent. I do not see that he is at peace with it, that is all. But it may be a cultural thing. I will look into him again, thanks for the input. I pretty much wrote him off before tonight.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:56 pm | #

let me restate
i love michael and all his work
i would never denounce his research
the only thing
as myself
would hope for
is a divine experience with God
(thats my perspective) as a believer in Jesus
i want his dvd set
i would buy it if i had the money
i dont proffess to debunk anything he has evidence of
id review it and weigh it against any other evidence there was
michael is fricken cool, a literal breath of fresh air in a world of stagnant thinking and mind control
tsarion is most likely the most "not mind controlled" person ive ever heard speak
he has a synthesis of ssssssssssoooooooooo much information its just plain scary
he is the man
hands down, one of the premier teachers of the truth movement in regards to alternative history
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 11:54 pm | #

Sane wrote:
Michael expplains things as if it was a chor or as if he deserves recognition for his a-ha moments
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I think it's his accent that gets you a bit, also he does got an attitude, but it's OK, cos he has been raised by an Indian Mother who was herself a world authority on the Esoteric Arts and Divination. Also I read he was raised in Rosecrusionism. [a disturbing word in itself] But he was 9 years old, and you can't blame him for that.
I think he has been saying it for a long, long, time, and sees most people are blind. What is that like?

I think a good explanation of this is: people like us trying to explain to the Average Serf, who don't know 911 was illuminati/Masonic ritual conducted from London.
People like Alex Jones would just laugh when you tell him, people are calling me a conspiracy nut when I try to help them.
And we know his answer too, get the fuck out there and tell em again, I hear him saying, inside my soul.
Just think how tough it was, when absolutly no-one beleived him, no mass consciousness to bear the heavy-load. The wieght must have been intolerable.
Well that is the same for Tsarion, And he's saying things a whole lot bigger, that is for sure.

Also His Northern Irish, is grating to the ears, but thats how they survive in Northern Ireland when the British forces are attacking you and your mother from all directions.
His mother was not even allowed to place an advert in the paper in Ireland, or she would be arrested. But I think he's alright, hey know-ones perfect.
But if you do come accross evidence of connections to illuminati please let me know, it's always interesting to see history's.
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 11:41 pm | #

Russian Agents Plot to Steal German Military Technology
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490759,00.html
Russian intelligence agents have recently been trying to steal German military technology with an intensity unknown since the end of the Cold War. But the spies who have been arrested so far have got off scot-free -- thanks to their diplomatic immunity.

Support Group for Spies: From East German Spooks to West German Victims
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,486390,00.html

Turkey Rejects German Appeals to Release Student
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490860,00.html
Turkey has rejected direct appeals by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier to release a 17-year-old German student arrested for having sex with a 13-year-old girl. The case is attracting growing attention in Germany where politicians are warning it could hurt Turkey's bid to join the EU. more...

'We Want to Re-Write History'
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490811,00.html
Estonian President Toomas Hendrik Ilves discusses the dispute over the Soviet memorial in Tallinn, why the Nazis were not necessarily worse than the Soviets, and the ethnic Russians plotting against the Estonian state. more...

German Army Destroyed Secret Files About Foreign Missions
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490782,00.html
A "technical defect" destroyed intelligence reports gathered on German army missions abroad between 1999 and 2003, according to a German television report. That means data concerning Murat Kurnaz, a Germany resident who spent five years in Guantanamo and has accused German soldiers of mistreating him, could be lost forever. more...

The Case of the Missing CIA Transcripts: German Intelligence Agency 'Misplaces' Kurnaz Files
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,467369,00.html
Meeting Murat Kurnaz: A Visit with a Man Wrongly Detained at Guantanamo
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,437087,00.html
"Bremen Taliban" Case: Kurnaz Mistreated by German Soldiers?
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,440720,00.html
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:40 pm | #

cop killa
im not trying to make you or anyone believe anything
i was just stating my personal experience and study
everytime i come accross a researchers study into christs or anti-type christs or christ like figures in history
i review all evidence i can find on it and study all known eye witness accounts
horace was probably the most closest emulating many of the typical virgin birth diety attributes etc...
budda, muhammed, unepsheptam, enoch, thoth, halls of amenti, akakor, many ascended masters, dwahl khul, the list goes on and on and on and on
i appreciate your attempts to latch onto the legends and lore of more than 25,000 years of alternative historical evidenc
and thats before you even get into michaels cornicopia of escoteric knowledge of old earth historical evidence
you can delve into a 250,000 year old civilization like mu and atlantis (even without tsarions commentary) just the read alone leads you in a childlike simplistic look at the very possible origins of our original relationship with God and creation
the bootom line is this
we are here now
we got a more than 5000 people eye witness accounts of Jesus from Nazareth
you can squirm all you like against people like me and my own testamony to the person of Jesus, His Salvation, God in heaven, The Holy Spirit and every thing from every book and chapter in the bible
it will not overbear my own knowledge of God
it will not easily overtake the volumes of miracle evidence and life changing Power of our Father in Heaven
again
i appreciate a view that God is a fantasy or Jesus is a myth
my only request is that you go over the days and times in Jerusalem and the roman records themselves
then spend some time reviewing the hundreds of prophesies specifically pinointed to the life and times and mission of Jesus from nazareth
and how they have systematically been fullfilled point for point, time and time again, like clockwork
once youve debunked those finer points
then do a indepth research of the other figures, and validate the death, burial and resurection of any of the other "christ -like" figures, what they accomplished, what the said, and where they went?????????????????????????????????
been there done that got the t-shirt
so im stickin with the simple fact based life of Jesus of nazareth
God inspired Word
my job
OUT
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 11:36 pm | #

Nude Merkel Montage Raises ... Eyebrows
http://www.spiegel.de/ internatio...,490795,00.html
By Charles Hawley

It's not the first time the Polish weekly Wprost has gotten in trouble in Germany. This week, the cover depicts Chancellor Angela Merkel breast-feeding the Kaczynski twins. But it could have been worse, the editor-in-chief points out. At least they used a 21-year-old model.

"Europe's Step-Mother:" Polish magazine Wprostdoes it again.
It's not exactly how one expects to see German Chancellor Angela Merkel: The broad, friendly smile seems completely at odds with her open blouse, two bare breasts spilling out. On each breast, one of Poland's governing Kaczynski twins is affixed -- Prime Minister Jaroslaw is suckling on the left, President Lech has attached himself to the right. One of them is holding up the "victory" sign right in Merkel's cleavage.
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Talk about a raw story. Way to put the elites in a visual for all the world to see.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:35 pm | #

If he's understating like most Dr's do, we're in deep shit. lol [:>
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 9:10 pm | #

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Not to be all gloom and doom but I think we are in deep shit!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:28 pm | #

Elizabeth Edwards Makes Live Call To Ann Coulter: "I'm Asking You To Stop These Attacks"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...- l_n_53899.html
MSNBC | June 26, 2007 05:08 PM
From MSNBC: Elizabeth Edwards, wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards called into to MSNBC"s "Hardball" to give columnist Ann Coulter a piece of her mind. Host Chris Mathews allowed Coulter and Edwards to engage in debate for about three minutes. Edwards asked Coulter numerous times to "stop making political attacks," especially personal ones that have targeted her husband and her deceased son Wade. In response, Coulter told Edwards to "stop raising money on the web page."
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:25 pm | #

Religion is finished, and good-bloody-riddens to it.
Jesus H Christ. {:>
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 11:11 pm | #
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Just one comment, as far as religion being finished...just be aware of NWO's master plan to use this as a way to create a one world religion. I am sure you are familiar with Hunt's UN CED video in 1992 that blew the whistle on the Rothschild/Rockefeller plan for this.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:21 pm | #

I like Ian Lungolds thesis on this, he says, Christ's Consciousness is in us all. Isn't it that we all have the consciousness and are awakening to the truth of Christ's message. I.E. the Message was what was important.
I'm not religious at all, and I've seen the King James Bible quoted often here, but again, the King James Bible, was the Official Bible people were allowed to see, King James and his cohorts burned all the other books.
So how can anyone trust the Bible. Any Bible?
The only thing people can trust is their inner knowing, intuition, or gut, which ever.

How to rule & divide the people with the Crown & Religion, ehh.

Religion is finished, and good-bloody-riddens to it.
Jesus H Christ. {:>
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 11:11 pm | #
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I do not have any love for organized religion, especially ones with blind faith as a stable of membership. I also know about the other "christs" and have no inherent issue with your entire posty. I just mostly do not like the way he presents the material. I got the other "christs" argument from zeitgeist and although I hold beliefs outside that video, I do realize that much of what we are told is outright lies in an attempt to divide, control, and exterminate.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:19 pm | #

PP put small town stories up, FF posts hard topic... Alex knew.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:11 pm | #
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FF is too scared to talk about the Cheney/Halliburton 800+ death camps. C'mon everyone sees the death camps. Are you too scared to talk about small townfolks being burned in ovens news????
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:15 pm | #

Residents were dismayed by the vandalism in Bentonville... I was shocked one resident said...

I get kinda dismayed when I see the Tomahawk Cruiser streaking toward WTC45&6... and shocked when Steve Watson says there is no verifiable evidence...

PP put small town stories up, FF posts hard topic... Alex knew.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:11 pm | #

butt his putting could use some evangelism by God Himself
a little "Holy Spirit" inspiration and revelation to Salvation in Christ Jesus
thats all I have to say about that
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 10:49 pm | #
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You know I think Tsarions right about the Christians and Evan-Galist's, which applies to the great Eric John Phelps, of all people, eh???

It's simply outside christian's paradigm to realise that God did not create christianity or any-other religion, through Christ or anyone else.

Did you know there were 16 Christs [apparently] before Jesus??

I like Ian Lungolds thesis on this, he says, Christ's Consciousness is in us all. Isn't it that we all have the consciousness and are awakening to the truth of Christ's message. I.E. the Message was what was important.
I'm not religious at all, and I've seen the King James Bible quoted often here, but again, the King James Bible, was the Official Bible people were allowed to see, King James and his cohorts burned all the other books.
So how can anyone trust the Bible. Any Bible?
The only thing people can trust is their inner knowing, intuition, or gut, which ever.

How to rule & divide the people with the Crown & Religion, ehh.

Religion is finished, and good-bloody-riddens to it.
Jesus H Christ. {:>
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 11:11 pm | #

same as Dr Jones, he takes the time to explain simply so everyone can understand
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 10:42 pm | #
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I do not agree with this [just my opinion]. I find that Jones does take the time to explain things, because for him, it is so naturally intuitive and he truly enjoys the world of science and teaching. It appears to me that Michael expplains things as if it was a chor or as if he deserves recognition for his a-ha moments. Again these are the type of lecturers I avoid. Jones is pure in his interests I have no doubt and he sacrificed his career and his life. Michael seems to be looking for popularity, fame, and huge fortune-again elitest tells. I am not saying that he is pure evil, just that his evil inclination seems to have a hold of him at times.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:08 pm | #

Anybody know how to activate my bootleg copy of 123 studios dvdxcopy platinum???
Michael D. | 06.26.07 - 11:04 pm | #

Sane wrote
On another note, I do not care for Michael...he is knowledgeable, but way to power hungry and has been in illuminati for so many years he should know better
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Please can you provide evidence to support this thesis.

Freemans cool, but disorganised, although I like that, it's Authentic. But he refernces Tsarion a lot.

I'm not Tsarions best buddy, but into learning as much as is possible. I don't see him as Illuminati mainly because, same as Dr Jones, he takes the time to explain simply so everyone can understand, But educate me. I'm always open to new Ideas, as you can see with Dr. Deagle. and I agree he's dirty.
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 10:42 pm | #
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I probably would have to do time markings on a video of his. You got a favorite for about 1-2 hours and I will time mark comments.

For the record this is only my opinion. I saw him do 2 hours on female/male symbolism in print ads. I did not mind his conclusions but did not see all the connections he did and to be honest I found many contradictory and open to various interpretations.

I also saw a 2 hour speach he was giving in a dark hall with a projector and found his voice ominous and mysterious. He talks often about having different types of info that he gives to different people [again illuminati-esque need to know basis crap]. I think he freely expresses that he got his info from some type of elitist visionary teachings. He also seems to think he is right 100% of the time-something I try to avoid when listening to a lecturer.

I also found that he leaves many open interpretations to events as if we are supposed o figure it out. Freeman does this to, but it is not like a "I know an you don't" attitude.

I also do not find much spiritual grounding with him like I do with Tax, Jones, AJ, ex-vampire dude, even freeman comes across to me as a spiritual dude, kind of gandhi-esqe.

Again, send me a one-two hour google link and I will time stamp my comments.

Also, these are really just my personal beliefs about him. But maybe I wrote him off too soon, we'll see.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 11:02 pm | #

Very good documentary on how corporate america is selling "cool" to brainwash our children into being their consumer slaves.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...com/in...id=88& Itemid=27
Visual Vendetta | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:45 pm | #

Look up Live free or Die Hard in German, I think a bittorrent was released. Check into it, I tried telling you a few days ago.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:53 pm | #

anyone got tsarions 80 hours on dvd?
like 22 dvds
you wanna know where hes coming from
be willing to review his entire work
its exhaustive
and he is a prolithic researcher
his knowledge of alternative history is very extensive
freeman jumps on the hip hip hooray bandwagon a bit too much
there are missing elements in tsarions personal testimony
it should not be held against his work or his investigations
but he does draw some very spirited conclusions on a diverse aray of topics
i like the guys approach
butt his putting could use some evangelism by God Himself
a little "Holy Spirit" inspiration and revelation to Salvation in Christ Jesus
thats all I have to say about that
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 10:49 pm | #

Very good documentary on how corporate america is selling "cool" to brainwash our children into being their consumer slaves.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...id=88& Itemid=27
Visual Vendetta | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:45 pm | #

farb
youve got em
sink the ping bro
youre the man
your truth is the truthiest
you and dvh and FF
you are the dynamic trio
you will single handedly destroy all the bad people at the local royal fork buffet
good job pig
that'll do
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 10:37 pm | #

daryl van horn ??????????????
please bro!!!!!!!
what in the hell do you got on 911 octopus you goof ball
killtowne has PROVEN "no plane facts"
you got anything solid or just spew................
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 10:33 pm | #

Stay cool Freddy... you have got them on the defensive, ...I saw the misslie, it's at 5m:50 sec, on 911 The Explosive Evidence vid, the hi res shots at Killtown are convincing evidence a Cruiser slammed into the Pentagon and another one hit 45&6.

If others canna see that maybe there are other more compelling reasons.
Fard El Kalb, The Destroyer | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:15 pm | #
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Yeah we all saw it and needed more info on whether Dick Cheney launched it from the bunker or were the Krull/ISI/AIG black ops running this piece of the op from Building 7?

Do you guys have more info on this???

BTW, there were 600 Cheney/Halliburton death camps last year, 800 last month, how many are there now? Can you walk into the VP's office and ask? Can you find out if the "Prescott's Final Solution" plan to blame the j's is a go, or have you let the cat out of the bag with your nonsensical posts?
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:21 pm | #

Fmr Education Dept Officials Speak Out Against "No Child Left Behind"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 20...ci_n_53770.html
Washington Post | Amit R. Paley | June 26, 2007 08:40 AM
President Bush urged lawmakers yesterday to renew No Child Left Behind, his landmark education initiative, but one of his biggest political liabilities in achieving that goal comes from an unlikely source: his former aides.

Five years after they helped craft and implement the initiative, senior administration officials from Bush's first term are speaking out against the law with increasing boldness. The shift, combined with mounting criticism from both the political right and left in Congress, is causing supporters of the law to worry that it might not win renewal this year.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:17 pm | #

GOP To Bush: Time's Up
http://huffingtonpost.com
Lugar: "The Longer We Delay The Planning For A Redeployment, The Less Likely It Is To Be Successful"...Warner: “I Hail" Lugar's Call For Iraq Withdrawal...Voinovich Calls For “Gradual Military Disengagement"…Sessions: Reduce Troop Levels “As Soon As It Is Realistic”
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:16 pm | #

Stay cool Freddy... you have got them on the defensive, ...I saw the misslie, it's at 5m:50 sec, on 911 The Explosive Evidence vid, the hi res shots at Killtown are convincing evidence a Cruiser slammed into the Pentagon and another one hit 45&6.

If others canna see that maybe there are other more compelling reasons.
Fard El Kalb, The Destroyer | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:15 pm | #

Sorry for the repost, but people need to know what the amnesty bill is really for:
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All of our soldiers now use RFID Tags on their body armor, weapons, Identification, almost every standard issue. How do you think the enemy (directed by Dick Cheney), knows exactly where our kids are????????? The RFID in the military is one of the greatest national security threats around. Soon we will all carry this easily fraudable units. It will have data on our children such as pictures and locations so that whenever an elite gets an urge, whooopppeeeee

For more on how elites "pick" the abductable child before they are abducted using creative surveillance read the Franklin Cover-Up or watch Conspiracy of Silence.
http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=-4946110250157218995
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Con...racy_of_Silence
http://www.rense.com/general61/ a...onspiracyof.htm
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http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ f...upexcerpt.shtml
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...4johndecamp.htm
http://www.franklincase.org/

The elites truly love our children. They want to eat them up and love them to death.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:09 pm | #

Immigration Bill Advances in Senate
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...ation-congress/
JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS | June 26, 2007 09:52 PM EST |
WASHINGTON — The Senate resurrected the immigration bill that could legalize millions of unlawful immigrants Tuesday, but the delicate compromise faces the same threats that derailed it earlier this month.

The White House and Republican and Democratic architects of the bill hailed the crucial test vote that revived the legislation, and they predicted approval of the measure by week's end.

Their victory was fleeting, though, giving way just hours later to stalling tactics by GOP foes. Conservatives succeeded in delaying until Wednesday consideration of a package of amendments designed to pave the way for a final vote on the bill.

They did so by using Senate rules to insist that the entire 373-page package be read aloud, relenting only when Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., agreed to postpone action on the amendments.
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THIS RFID NAZI LEGISLATION MUST BE STOPPED!
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:07 pm | #

Kissinger is NOT a 'Dr."
Ric von Maur | 06.26.07 - 9:56 pm | #

He is Dr. Evil!
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:01 pm | #

...Well I'm, not gonna stay silent, Schweitzer was murdered cos she revealed the truth about the Holocaust... She said inside job ... like the Jews avoid the subject... My reputation hinges on truth I am gonna stay on side with the deceased Katherine S... I never met her, I can guarantee that when I saw her on TV telling the truth despite the considerable danger that entailed, I began to admire and respect the lady.
Darryl Van Horn | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 9:55 pm | #
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Look by all means do not stay silent, but do not be a BOT, is it possible for you to engage in a discussion without sending packets to Australia/Beijing/Langley for approval only to have it washed over a forth time at your HQ in California, you know...this building:
http://maps.google.com/maps?clie...7&t=k&z=18& om=1
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 10:01 pm | #

Kissinger is NOT a 'Dr."
Ric von Maur | 06.26.07 - 9:56 pm | #

9/11 and the British Broadcasting Conspiracy... Another teaser... makes two in two days, 911 Octopus was a similar attempt to cloud the whole 911 issue... Just checking... FF appears to be the worlds foremost 911 scholar... AJ Jones has given up the ghost many moons ago... come to think of it he was spruiking about OBL & WTC & Terrorism months before the event... Sinister implications there.

Freddy stays on track just the same... WTC's 4, 5 & 6... that's where it's at baby... Whoosh the Tomahawk Class cruiser slams into the WTC, the multiple thermonuclear warheads destroy those buildings and Freddy owns the story.... Whoo hooo to yooo Mr Steve Watson one half of the Watson boys from Birmingham England... AJ picked them up out of the gutter brought them over to the US, sat them down in front of a computer and said ... Go Boys, ...but lay off of the truth...

WTC truth AJ style is what the BBC vid had, which is no truth at all... Steve is gettin all sweatty cos the Jews have told him ...stop the rot!! Freddy Fatt's message must be silenced... or its back to the Gorballs for the Watson boys... Yes ...that is the truth.

...Well I'm, not gonna stay silent, Schweitzer was murdered cos she revealed the truth about the Holocaust... She said inside job ... like the Jews avoid the subject... My reputation hinges on truth I am gonna stay on side with the deceased Katherine S... I never met her, I can guarantee that when I saw her on TV telling the truth despite the considerable danger that entailed, I began to admire and respect the lady.
Darryl Van Horn | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 9:55 pm | #

Cop-Killa-It was Prophesy Club and not Granada Forum for the Ex-Vampire [oops]:

Exposing the Illuminati from Within. Part 1 - Bill Schnoebelen 1 hr 55 min - May 17, 2006 - (329 ratings) ... from Within. Part 1. Bill Schnoebelen was a Satanic and Voodoo High Priest, ...
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sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 9:54 pm | #

Bill Schnoebelen - Interview with an ExVampire: A True Story - Part 1
1 hr 1 min - Jun 16, 2006 - (142 ratings)
... This was his world : Adept, Occultist, Satanic Priest, Black Magician, Vampire. ...
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sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 9:51 pm | #

>>>New documents link Kissinger to two 1970s coups
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ In...le_in_0626.html
Larisa Alexandrovna and Muriel Kane
Published: Tuesday June 26, 2007
Release of CIA’s ‘Family Jewels’ provides insight into political juggernaut and Bush Administration adviser. Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger pushed for the 1974 Turkish invasion of Cyprus and allowed arms to be moved to Ankara for an attack on that island in reaction to a coup sponsored by the Greek junta, according to documents and intelligence officers with close knowledge of the event.

Nearly 700 pages of highly classified Central Intelligence Agency reports from the 1970's, known collectively as the "Family Jewels," are slated for public release today.

However, the National Security Archive had previously obtained four related documents through the Freedom of Information Act and made them public Friday.

“In all the world the things that hurt us the most are the CIA business and Turkey aid,” Kissinger declares in one of those documents, a White House memorandum of a conversation from Feb. 20, 1975. On the surface, the comment seems innocuous, but the context as well as the time period suggests Kissinger had abetted illegal financial aid and arms support to Turkey for its 1974 Cyprus invasion.

In July and August of 1974, Turkey staged a military invasion of the island nation of Cyprus, taking over nearly a third of the island and creating a divide between the south and north. Most historians consider that Kissinger – then Secretary of State and National Security Advisor to President Gerald Ford – not only knew about the planned attack on Cyprus, but encouraged it.

Some Greek Cypriots believed then, and still believe, that the invasion was a deliberate plot on the part of Britain and the US to maintain their influence on the island, which was particularly important as a listening post in the Eastern Mediterranean in the wake of the October 1973 War between Israel, Egypt, Jordan and Syria.

According to columnist Christopher Hitchens, author of the book The Trial of Henry Kissinger, "At the time, many Greeks believed that the significant thing was that [Prime Minister Bulent] Ecevit had been a pupil of Kissinger's at Harvard."

Several intelligence sources, who wished to remain anonymous to maintain the security of their identity, confirmed to RAW STORY that Kissinger both pushed for the Turkish invasion of Cyprus and allowed arms to be moved to Ankara.

However, a former CIA officer who was working in Turkey at the time, suggests that Kissinger's statement in the memorandum about Turkish aid likely means the Ford administration, following Kissinger’s advice, conducted business under the table with right-wing ultra-nationalist General Kenan Evren, who later dissolved Parliament and became the dictator of Turkey in a 1980 coup.

“The implication is that the US government was dealing directly with General Evren and circumventing the [democratically elected] Turkish government,” the former CIA officer said. “This was authorized by Kissinger, because they were nervous about Ecevit, who was a Social Democrat.”

“We technically cut off military aid for them,” the officer added, referring to an arms embargo passed by Congress after the invasion. “Technically… technically, but this would imply that the military and/or probably CIA aid continued even after the aid was cut off by Congress. This may substantively be what led to the overthrow eventually of Ecevit.”

According to the former CIA officer, Turkey’s democratically elected President Ecevit had good relations with the Johnson administration, but the Nixon administration, where Kissinger served as National Security Advisor and Secretary of State, had issues with Ecevit.
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WTF????? Find any coup in the last 45 years and Kissinbger will be the one pulling the fucking strings! Is he still allowed in the White House??? OUR WHITE HOUSE????
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 9:48 pm | #

I have a suggestion for Alex Jones... You not have a RSS Feed of your web site ?!! c'mon! that can be great idea for you and your readers..
Mike | 06.26.07 - 9:43 pm | #

Excellent point Jan. My sentiments exactly. But add in some fight club. Truthers are silenced, accused, harassed, blamed, and generally attacked ridiculed and made fun of by the corporate media. No matter how many facts we present, or how much evidence we have.
"Spin city".
Gabriel Alan King | 06.26.07 - 9:43 pm | #

Personally I got serious doubts about him, except he was put on by the Granada Forum, who seem to provide a platform for a lot of good people to get noticed. Michael Tsarion being one.
Also Redice creations put him up on their site, so I listend.But,here we go. What he talks about, gives us like, no-chance at defence. They even call him Dr-Doom & Gloom in his own lecture!! 2nd, as a Medic, who reckons he remote heals all the time, he's obese and not a good example of how to mange health. I'm not slagging off fatso's here, just He is a Doctor, You must walk your talk to get credibility, especially advising others on health issues.3rd He says 'I'm a whistle-blower, I'm a whistle-blower. And by the way did i tell you I'm a whistle-blower.He actually says this over & over to the audience, just like a repeater would.Over-all he instills so much fear in his talk, it took me back to a time, before I became fully aware of what is transpiring, and it felt like fear-based-control, again. You know, like, just keeping every-one on the back-foot hoping from one to other, and like you say Ron he seems to be operating from an ego perspective at first glance, me, me, me, I important listen to me.However I think someone of his inteligence is foolish at best to do this, and this makes me think he is a fear-monger.
If correct this might be a good sign for the 'Truth Movement,' Is this the best they can throw out from behind the curtain? Just to terrify them?I am speculating of course, and it does worry me that RedIce, and The Granada forum did not see this, But time will tell. Lets hope he is a BS-er. If he's understating like most Dr's do, we're in deep shit. lol [:>
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 9:10 pm | #

I have watched over 2 hours of this crap [sorry call em like I see em].

He consistently collapses many theories in an attempt to confuse. He also does not follow any logic in his transistions in an attempt to have us follow and be left open to debunking. This guy is an intelligent agent. He does this stuff on purpose and is VERY aware of what he was doing. If you used the RFID sniper on him, I bet you would find him going in and out of DC's office or Langley to receive more orders. Watch him with Steven Jones and becomes very apparent that he is meant to follow COINTELPRO rules 100%:

Disrupt
Divide
Recruit

Sorry again, but I think you already discovered this stuff and the fear factor also is a clear sign [notice how calm Steve Jones is?]

Anyway-I also agree that I have learned much from the Granaga Forum. I think that is where I heard the Vampire [maybe that was prophesy club, oh well]. I found him to be very matter of fact, spiritual, and believable.

On another note, I do not care for Michael...he is knowledgeable, but way to power hungry and has been in illuminati for so many years he should know better. In my opinion, Freeman gives better info without the control, fear tactics, or "word of god" prophecies.

But Cop-Killa, please continue to send me this stuff, I have so much to learn and seek it everywhere. IU apologize if my views do not align with yours and I am open to them being wrong. I just get feelings about these guys having watched thousands of hours of this stuff [as I am sure you have too].
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Jones and Deagle: http://video.google.com/ videopla...826770885695772
Just search for "Freeman Perspective" on Google Video; he has like 30 videos. He is a decendant of very high up freemasons and has chosen a non-secretive life. His knowledge of symbolism is pretty intense.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 9:38 pm | #

dear steve watson
i hope and pray that when you do skim through this section, you find the high quality posts from so many dedicated truthers
we try to stay possitive and go at the nwo head on, exposing links and thoughts on pp news and infowar stuff to stand against the beast system and the criminal elite plot
thankyou so very much for what you and alex do, we all hope to be a asset to the site here on the blog, day in and day out, again many diligently make possitive statements and inspirational ideas the norm
i will also appologize for the truthers doing nasty battle against these stupid bots of disinfo and idiocy, though they may spark an interest that makes clear our true mission, it is not meant to make your life harder than it is allready
God Bless you sir
we all appreciate you guys
you are all doing so much
it doesnt seem like enough, to just say thanks, but every day we inch closer to all yours and our hard work paying off and we win this thing
all thes twists and turns on the blog are context notes to know who the fringe enemy is and what the mindless enemy drones ooze out of their gray fecal matter brains
long live The Republic
death to the nwo
baldmanace | 06.26.07 - 9:33 pm | #

I am NOT promoting graffiti when I say this BUT this is the sort of thing that happens when a group CANNOT and WILL NOT be heard by the media and the government. I'ts like, OK, now you are going to listen !! It looks like the begining of a REVOLUTION To me ?
Jan | 06.26.07 - 9:32 pm | #

Vandals splash conspiracy theory on the walls of the county courthouse

Michael Fascist Roston
Raw Propoganda Story Lied straight from Satans Arse
Tuesday June 26, 2007
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Hey Fascist, fuck you. I'm gonna use a Nail gun on ya forehead, and write, in nails;
"Prison Planet Fucking Rules Ok"
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 9:30 pm | #

You might be better off doing a bit of investigative journalism yourself... The fact that Alex Jones was on about the official story two months before the fact is circumstantial evidence of complicity.
FF | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 7:58 pm | #
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Hey Freddy Bot, you got any cutting edge piece of journalism that you wish to promote here other than the Nazi Docker's party?
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 9:14 pm | #

My unasked for opinion
Peace
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 7:19 pm | #

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Na, thats cool, all views welcome.
Personally I got serious doubts about him, except he was put on by the Granada Forum, who seem to provide a platform for a lot of good people to get noticed. Michael Tsarion being one.
Also Redice creations put him up on their site, so I listend.
But,
here we go. What he talks about, gives us like, no-chance at defence. They even call him Dr-Doom & Gloom in his own lecture!!

2nd, as a Medic, who reckons he remote heals all the time, he's obese and not a good example of how to mange health.
I'm not slagging off fatso's here, just He is a Doctor, You must walk your talk to get credibility, especially advising others on health issues.

3rd He says 'I'm a whistle-blower, I'm a whistle-blower. And by the way did i tell you I'm a whistle-blower.
He actually says this over & over to the audience, just like a repeater would.

Over-all he instills so much fear in his talk, it took me back to a time, before I became fully aware of what is transpiring, and it felt like fear-based-control, again.
You know, like, just keeping every-one on the back-foot hoping from one to other, and like you say Ron he seems to be operating from an ego perspective at first glance, me, me, me, I important listen to me.
However I think someone of his inteligence is foolish at best to do this, and this makes me think he is a fear-monger.
If correct this might be a good sign for the 'Truth Movement,' Is this the best they can throw out from behind the curtain? Just to terrify them?

I am speculating of course, and it does worry me that RedIce, and The Granada forum did not see this, But time will tell. Lets hope he is a BS-er. If he's understating like most Dr's do, we're in deep shit. lol [:>
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 9:10 pm | #

They are now giving Alex alot of heat about the graffiti, and so Alex can not publicly promote it, without violating some sort of Law.
I think what Alex means to say no is, "hey fellas, don't do graffiti." (wink, wink).

If you ask me, we should be doing a lot more than a little graffiti. I think we are well past fight club level.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.26.07 - 9:07 pm | #

i used to hear things, then i sobered up
Snake Plisken | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 9:04 pm | #

Regarding the socalled graffitti vandalism: I have heard Alex Jones say on his radio show once that that was acceptable because this is a war! So I am confused
Danish | 06.26.07 - 8:49 pm | #

Freddy. Now Alex is warning us about the NAU, and the implementation of biometrics. I suppose when these come to pass, you will cite him for "complicity" as well? I mean, is it too hard to imagine that some people just stay well informed and draw conclusions based upon context, history, charts and graphs, evidence, analyzing political and social relationships, timeliness, well known tactics and agendas, articles, documents, and the statements of political leaders?

Accusing Alex of being a New World Order payoff,
Is the same as accusing Christ of being the devil.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.26.07 - 8:49 pm | #

Poppy production has risen, not because of insurgency but because of the British Army's encouragement: http://www.guardian.co.uk/ afghan...2067007,00.html

The Taleban almost completely eliminated poppy production when they were in power:

"Afghanistan is the world’s largest producer of opium. Because poppy plants are used to make opium, poppie growing is illegal in most countries, and only frown in highly controlled and specially designated areas. In 2002, the revenue generated by the sale of opium from Afghanistan on the world market exceeded $1 billion at the farm level – almost 5% of Afghanistan's GDP. During the 1990’s, Afghanistan poppies supplied approximately 70% of the world’s opium, but in 1999 the Taliban's fatwa prohibitted the planting of poppies and was 96% successful in eliminating the crops. However, the Taliban government allowed for the trade of opium, and taxed it heavily. Since the US invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001 and the subsequent ousting of the Taliban, crop production resumed with full-force. The poppies are processd into opium, and the opium is traded throughout the region and into Western Europe. The illegal trade of poppies has created transnational disputes and directly led to the decline in civil society in the countries through which it is traded. Under the Taliban and in post-Taliban Afghanistan, the profits from opium sales have been used to fund tribal warlords and fuel armed conflict."

http://www.american.edu/TED/tali...liban- poppy.htm
See Dubya | 06.26.07 - 8:16 pm | #

yeah or maybe its because everything you just mentioned is totally unverifiable and this is a news site that sticks to what is provable. Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:34 pm | #

I certainly hope that you are not suggesting that the missile story or the death of Schweitzer are unverifiable... give me a break... Minetta was up front on day one... Odigo and the put options also hit the newswires on day one... and have had no coverage since. How many stories did you do on Ed who dont like taxes... tough on Ed and that way no Odigo news gets on the web... The PP front page has had two Ron Paul listings all year and he has done nuthin...

You might be better off doing a bit of investigative journalism yourself... The fact that Alex Jones was on about the official story two months before the fact is circumstantial evidence of complicity.
FF | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 7:58 pm | #

Steve, a timely point. Politics and Religion tend to bring out the worst in people, in terms of "bickering" and differing opinions. And there are some people who just come here to start trouble.
I like all the articles I have ever read on Prison Planet and Infowars. As far as I am concerned, you guys are doing a great job. Just keep doing what you have been doing...demonstrate just how far we have drifted into a fascist police state.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.26.07 - 7:54 pm | #

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Yea what Gabe said.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 7:57 pm | #

Steve, a timely point. Politics and Religion tend to bring out the worst in people, in terms of "bickering" and differing opinions. And there are some people who just come here to start trouble.
I like all the articles I have ever read on Prison Planet and Infowars. As far as I am concerned, you guys are doing a great job. Just keep doing what you have been doing. I really like the articles about the latest "petty crimes" they are turning in to felonies, like kids with rubber band guns. Don't forget those! They make me laugh, and demonstrate just how far we have drifted into a fascist police state.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.26.07 - 7:54 pm | #

yeah or maybe its because everything you just mentioned is totally unverifiable and this is a news site that sticks to what is provable.
Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:34 pm | #

Damn Steve, please don't waste time with the Freddy COINTELPRO bot, it is a set of 10 nicks pointing to the same American Nazi Party website.

None of us believe anything by a poster using the dockers website, it is just a bot. Usually it comes in a series of 10 posts congradulating each other's fake nicks and trying to bring attention to the same website, there is more on the exposure here:

http://www.haloscan.com/ comments...omments32#99736

Keep up the great work!
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 7:50 pm | #

Two (2) wankers reply to DVH...

... he supports the gun lobby when it is guns that fill cemetaries and death row...DVH | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 4:18 pm | #

I challenge you,DVH, to show me one (1) time that a gun has filled any cemetary!! just one where a gun (inanimate object) woke up one morning ,rolled over, kissed mrs. gun good morning, got up and said" think I'll go kill someone today, after all , the sun is shining, the birds are singing, and dog-gone it I just feel like killing someone today!!" moron! Patrick | 06.26.07 - 4:51 pm | #

Fragging... Vietnam Corporal pleads and begs New PLt. Leader to alter his methods, becasue the men are getting zapped in heavy numbers. The Luey, arrogance will not pay heed his ego Men begged him teary eyed, please, use point, use flanks, use drags, he refused, more men died. This luitenant was KIA... This was not a chickenshit fragging... chris jones | 06.26.07 - 5:25 pm | #

A more complete wanker would be difficult to envisage than this fragger... Go tell Bob Convery's parents that at age twenty two he deserved death for arrogance and egotism... Then hop up onto the gallows.
FF | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 7:45 pm | #

Also can we remember that this is not a chat room or place to fling insults around at each other, please just stick to comments on the articles, other wise I have to sit here scrolling through trash and wasting time.

sorry to sound gripy, but come on!!

Much thanks to those who post sensible and informative comments.
Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:40 pm | #

yeah or maybe its because everything you just mentioned is totally unverifiable and this is a news site that sticks to what is provable.
Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:34 pm | #

The Norman Minetta story is nearly six years old, it's being redone now just to keep hard news off the net... Odigo... Missile... WTC's 4, 5 & 6... Two (2) only aircraft missing and unaccounted for, out of four allegedly hijacked on 911... No plane at the Pentagon... and despite continuing and ongoing assertion that one went down in Pennsylvania, no plane there either.

None of this stuff makes it onto Alex's agenda... makes me think he is a double agent... a sleeper... a mole.
FF | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 7:28 pm | #

sane, deagle, any observations?
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 7:06 pm | #

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My feedback was not asked for: however, I did watch the entire thing. I commented before, but I will chance annoying by again stating, I think he is off on a few fronts. he continually messes up his own time-lines (first instance was at or about 20 minutes in to the first talk). He seems to have a pathological need to be the "keeper" of the special knowledge. i do not disagree with much of what he says; however, I think he is either confabulating, exaggerating, or outright lying regarding certain parts of his story.
My unasked for opinion
Peace
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 7:19 pm | #

sane, deagle, any observations?
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 7:06 pm | #

Shit, I downloaded them but have not watched them yet. I will do it now since Ann Coulter is on with Mathews (acchhhh) and Beck is on with himself (double aaaccchhh).

I'll let you know later tonight or tomorrow.

Sorry again.
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 7:12 pm | #

We will win
Anonymous | 06.26.07 - 7:07 pm | #

sane, deagle, any observations?
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 7:06 pm | #

LOL, I go away for a few days, and you dummies are still at it.OMG, what a bunch of retards.This is better than watching comedy central.
I See Stupid People | 06.26.07 - 6:31 pm | #
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No it's not, scrubs kicks ass! BTW Amuzed wazzup w/the Halliburton/Cheney Death Camps?

There were 600 last year, 800 last month, how many are there now?

anyway gotta go,

lol
sane | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 7:01 pm | #

bbc - conspiracy

It was actually an embarrassment watching the bbc's documentary, the beeb are capable of lying more professionally than that, but I presume they were being realistic. The best they could do was appeal to the lowest of mindsets, effectively raising a position of the form 'would the American government really blow up it its own people?', a question they already knew yes was the answer to.

I was genuinely worried when they went on air against Alex Jones, they have a lot of resources and experience at make believe, but that is when their credibility was shot wholesale.

I am glad the BBC did this, it exposed them, and having been shown up as fools as well as liars, I don't expect they will be back.

Being British, I do apologise to the Americans for the BBC, it wasn't always this bad.
David Stanley | 06.26.07 - 6:49 pm | #

I am stupid people. Retards? What?
Did your momma finally show you the real results of that old I.Q. test? Oh we'll, you can always get a job as a chode boy with an "erotic" production company.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.26.07 - 6:48 pm | #

Freddy. Alex predicted accurately that a false flag terror op would be executed, and most likely blamed on Osama Bin Laden, AKA "Tim", a known CIA asset. You failed to mention that one little detail in your comprehensive micro analysis. Thus, what YOU say, and not what Alex says, more or less fits the profile of "spin".

And DVH. "Peripheral issues"? Um, no. I think Alex pretty much tackles the most important issues, which are provable beyond doubt, with a true and patriotic fervor- tempered with the edicut of a professional yet honest radio personality, and the dilligence of a true investigative journalist. I, for one, appreciate the efforts of Alex Jones, and his team of truth investigators and reporters. Your accusations are baseless, and foolhardy.
Gabriel Alan King | 06.26.07 - 6:39 pm | #

LOL, I go away for a few days, and you dummies are still at it.

OMG, what a bunch of retards.

This is better than watching comedy central.
I See Stupid People | 06.26.07 - 6:31 pm | #

Blairs 'excuse' for not having a referendum, 'our red lines are not being crossed' is complete garbage and totally irrelevant. Our 'red lines are being crossed' by him in the sense that hes involved in taking away our
sovereignty and ability to self govern ourselves WITHOUT THE BRITISH PUBLICS PERMISSION. On an issue of this importance it his mandatory duty, to arrange a referendum vote, for the British people period. The British people should be totally up in arms about this major issue period. The reason why Blair, wont allow the people to have a vote over this issue, is because he knows they will vote against involvement with this european fascist superstate nonsense.
(and this latest stunt by Blair, was always one of his illuminati tasks that he was required to do before leaving office)
ANTHONY uk | 06.26.07 - 6:15 pm | #

Settle down KILLA, you silly boy!!
Patrick | 06.26.07 - 5:53 pm | #
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Blow it out ya arse, you 'goblin'
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 6:15 pm | #

Blair set to clinch job as world’s man in the Middle East

Tom Baldwin, Greg Hurst and Philip Webster
London's LIEING Times Propoganda
Tuesday June 26, 2007
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Sending Blair as a mid-east envoy, erm, err, isn't that like sending Hitler to negociate on behalf of the Jews?
You have to laugh, i mean even a 'conspiracy nut,' couldn't come up with something as riddiculas as that.
Maybe England won't get the chance to HANG Blair, he'll probably get his head blown off when he's out there.
cop-KILLA | 06.26.07 - 6:13 pm | #

http://www.lse.co.uk/ ShowStory.a...tory=OL2238881G

Muslim Mob Burns St George's Cross On Streets Of London

22nd June

Extremist British Muslims called for the Queen to "Go to Hell" as they burnt the flag of St George on the streets of London.

The furious mob waved placards and chanted angrily in protest over Satanic Verses author Salman Rushdie being given a knighthood.

Around two dozen protestors, some clad in Mujahideen-style face scarves, called for Rushdie to be "punished not praised" and wished death on Tony Blair as they waved banners demanding "may God curse the Queen" outside the gates of the London Central Mosque in Regent's Park.

One rabble rouser shouted: "Salman Rushdie is a devil. He should be attacked. We as Muslims should never forget how he insulted the Prophet.

"We have a responsibility to hold the Queen accountable for standing with the people who insult Islam."

Another loony protestor spat: "Brothers and sisters, make no mistake, the British government and the Queen are your enemies.

"Their design is your ruin. Hatred is uttered from their tongues but what's in their hearts is far worse."

He added: "They have made Tony Blair a middle east envoy. Surely he will go to the middle east as an envoy and come back in a box, insh'Allah. [God willing]"

Some of the group jumped up and down with glee as they set light to a homemade English flag.

The protestors acted angrily as photographers tried to capture them, shouting: "You can't take our photos - you're not Muslim."

But most of the thousand or more worshippers streaming out of the mosque after prayers ignored the demonstrators as they r