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Cash for a knighthood...I think police lied and Blair and levy guiltyoif major cover up...Take a look a witness Courtney Coventry"s London Visit statement www.courtneycoventry.com
Philip Marinz | 07.25.07 - 3:47 pm | #

bout time someone stood up to our government.....U try pay n all those taxes upon taxes ....our gov gets way to much of our checks!! I cant even claim my child support or any of my little ones BS!! thank God for the Browns ..it all goes to illegals anyway whom run over our citizens when they r drunk!! section 8
T | 07.23.07 - 7:46 pm | #

Your just a damn baby, coward!
gregg | 07.13.07 - 2:57 am | #

Power to the truth, I sincerly hope that the internet can win nutrality because if it does'nt and is censored like the BBC and world media organisations we are ALL fucked!

What has really bothered me over the last few weeks is the fact that here in the UK the biggest Internet Cable company "NTL" sold out to "Virgin Media" (NO BIG DEAL YOU MAY SAY!) but at a loss to the subcribers in sevices, almost over night "Branson" the Brittish "Illuminati's Stepping Stone Sleeper Agent" has sold the Internet company onto a USA contingent!

This is sooo Bad as the USA Government are hell bent on "Killing the truth via" Free Speach on the web" I can see that money in our day and age can buy "ANYTHING" and "ANYONE" for any end game? and I know that those who win the "war" are those that re-right history to delude the masses further from the truth!

Whats even more worrying with "Branson" the fact that he wants so much to build an underground "Space Port" with his Company "Virgin Galactic" this really sucks! $400.000 a pop for a 10 min flight into space? and is getting the US Tax payer to foot the condtruction costs! for this portal?

Ive seen fotage of the Yellowstone park portal and is likned to the Satanic rites! Branson is a "Whore!"

xzonyx.. go figure?

The "Barbaric Briainwashing Cocksuckers (BBC) are NAZIS in sheeps cloathing...

God help us all!

Tim..
xzonyx | 07.12.07 - 3:19 pm | #

Ya know, you have been really on a defeatest attitude lately. This is a pretty big event for the freedom of information.

In addition, we will be able to request more documents that this one connects to.
sane | Homepage | 07.01.07 - 9:17 pm | #

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Yes, I agree, I am completely fucking depressed and disheartened. My apologies if it seems I am trying to bring anyone else into my gloom and doom bullshit. I just trust nothing nor anyone...I have been incapable of humor unless of the noir/gallows variety. Again, my negativity is not pointed at anyone here who is searching for the truth; even the folks with whom I disagree (there are a few). No disrespect intended, I just am completely incredulous and quite hopeless.
What else can I say...party on bro' (assuming you are male, I do not know). Thanks for what you do...as I have said before, I respect and appreciate what you do.
Ron in LA | 07.04.07 - 11:11 pm | #

Soo... Have Ed and Elaine removed themselves from the status of citizen? since citizenship was enstated by lincoln to 'give' african americans rights, and it just got adopted into the rest of our society thus making us second class.... things/entities under the control of those who created citizens... aka congress... so did they? how did they remove themselves from the courts jurisdiction?
there's no explination on this stuff. i'm piecing this slowly together from madddd different sites...
thanks

for the world

Era
Eranonymous | 07.03.07 - 4:36 pm | #

I live in Stoke-on-Trent just a few miles from where the supposed terrorist lives. The hospital he works at is my local hospital and I have been there many times. This area is a very poor area of the country and there are many immigrants living here - some Muslims, some Polish, all sorts of people really. I do not believe a doctor who has a baby boy would throw away all the time and money he spent training to be a doctor, just to take part in some terrorist plot that didn't even work.
gary | 07.02.07 - 3:51 pm | #

death to the elite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

in france we own our governments ass and we aint giving it up to suffer like the poor u.s.

liva la u.s.a!!! rise up!!!!!

we love you

death to the elite!!!!
deathtotheelite | 07.02.07 - 12:44 pm | #

all that CCTV footage of the 2 men & vehicle,but hundreds of CCTV's around Pentagon & we get just 5 frames of a blur of the missile slamming into the Pentagon on 9-11.Hmmmm
randy | 07.01.07 - 11:09 am | #

Gator, you're smoking crack if you think Rue Paul is going to win.

He's one of the biggest moonbats ever born.

LMAO
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 11:27 pm | #
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Moonbat??????????????

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Moonbat (also "barking moonbat" and "moonbat crazy") is a term often used currently in U.S. politics as a political epithet referring to anyone that is liberal or on the left.(12) "Wingnut" (or "right wing nut") is frequently preferred as the analogous epithet aimed at extremists on the political right.[1]

History of use
According to an article by New York Times language maven William Safire, the term was first used by the famous science fiction author Robert A. Heinlein in 1947.[1] Heinlein used the term in a 1947 short story, "Space Jockey", as the name of the third stage of a rocket bound for the moon.

Current use
Today Michelle Malkin uses the term "moonbat" in reference to news reporters that have given money to Democrat Party campaigns. This is used to back up her conspiracy theories of a "liberal media".[WTF Amuzed-this is your best word??? It makes no sense, you got a better definition?](12) According to Safire, "The prevailing put-down of right-wing bloggers is wingnuts; this has recently been countered by the vilification of left-wing partisans who use the Web as moonbats..."[1] The term has come into popular use among a few columnists at the Boston Herald newspaper. Howie Carr uses the term regularly in his columns.[2][3][4][5][6][7] Margery Eagan, another Herald columnist, has used the term several times to characterize some supporters of Democratic governor Deval Patrick,[8][9][10] and Michael Graham has also used the term.[11]
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Amuzed, this term was used by Heinlein [kick ass], the Malkin to describe an absurd and actually contra-reality theory. Now it is used to promote print media as being more genuine than the Internet???

Cool, use the Malkin then Print False SwiftBoat word. "It is like saying Guiliani will never win, he is such a boogedyboo."

Now we know he won't win because he is about to get caught in hiring people to kill apponents. Not presidential candidates, just anyone he thinks threatens him...well the list is getting long and he is bound to get caught the next time he orders a hit.

Calling him a boogedyboo, while funny has no affect without supporting material.

Something you always seem to forget
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 11:56 pm | #

Gator, you're smoking crack if you think Rue Paul is going to win.

He's one of the biggest moonbats ever born.

LMAO
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 11:27 pm | #

Vote for Ron Paul, he's gonna win anyway. We have to take back our country before we all get killed.
Gator | 06.30.07 - 7:01 pm | #

CIA's "Family Jewels" This is a 700 page report detailing illegal and embarrassing activities carried out by the CIA - including assassination plans, and secret drug tests on American citizens. If you think they've given up on these kind of activities, think again.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/127513...s-Family- Jewels
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More...

Unclassified Report: Valerie Plame WAS covert when they outed her When the Bush Administration leaked Valerie Plame's name to journalists, she was covert - this report proves it. They put her life in danger, and the lives of everyone she had done covert business with. Who knows how many died because of their petty desire to get revenge on Joe Wilson?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131682...-they-outed- her
FactSheet: The Vice President's Efforts to Avoid Oversight and Accountability A list of efforts by Dick Cheney shield the activities of his office from public scrutiny.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131681...- Accountability
Amendment to Defund Dick Cheney's Office When an office in the National Archives tried to get Cheney to comply with a records law, he tried to ABOLISH that office. It didn't work. Recently he had a new plan: Claim to be part of the legislative branch, rather than the executive. So, if he's not part of the executive branch, let's defund his office!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131680...-Cheneys- Office
National Intelligence Estimate: The Iraq War The 2007 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on the Iraq War, telling the progress we're making. Summary: NONE.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131679...te-The-Iraq- War
Memo: Niger/Uranium Lies - Bush Administration Knew they were Lies This memo proves that Bush's Niger Uranium story was based upon lies, and that he knew it and used the story anyway as a justification for us to go to Iraq.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131678...-they-were- Lies
Douglas Feith Iraq War Slideshow This is a slideshow used by Doughlas Feith to attempt to convince White House official to invade Iraq. It worked, obviously, but most of the information within has now shown to be either misleading or outright false.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131676...q-War- Slideshow
Fact Sheet on the Firings of U.S. Attorneys House and Senate Investigations Revealed Significant White House Involvement In US Attorney Firings .
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131613...of-US- Attorneys
Bud Cummins Testimony about US Attorney Firings Testimony of Bud Cummins, a US Attorney with positive job performance reviews, fired to make room for Karl Rove's friend Tim Griffin (Who has since resigned over his role in the "caging scandal" - preventing blacks votes from being counted!)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131612...ttorney- Firings
CIA Presidential Briefing April 2004: bin Laden Determined to Strike in US They were warned. This is part of the Presidential Daily Briefing in which Bush was warned that bin Laden wanted to attack us. Even warns of the methods (hijacking airplanes).
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131608...to-Strike-in- US
Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks They were warned. Declassified CIA documents.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131607...d-Other- Attacks
George Bush: Presidential Advance Manual
This manual was written by the Bush Administration as guidelines of what to do before the president arrived. Includes - how to hide protestors so the president doesn't have to see/hear them, and if that doesn't work, how to send your own people as a counter-protest to drown them out and block their view. This is real. There is a transcript of this document at YOURLEADERS.org.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131430...-Advance- Manual
Q & A from Committee for John McKay Fired U.S. Attorney Scandal
http://www.scribd.com/doc/128629...-for-John- McKay
Documents regarding fired U.S. Attorneys - release June 14th, 2007 These are justice department documents subpoena by the House of Representatives John Conyers. Released 6/14/07.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/127517...-June-14th- 2007
Rudolph Giuliani: Vulnerabilities In 1993, the man we now know as "The President of 9/11" was just plain old Rudolph, Giuliani. He is a weirdo, a crook, a wannabe warmonger, and a profiteer off the tragedy of 9/11. But back then, he was just a weirdo, a crook, a cousin-marrying draft-dodger, and a racist. He knew these facts about himself, and commissioned some folks to write a study which would spell out some of his ...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/ 126663...Vulnerabilities
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sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 2:45 pm | #

NOTICE THE SPLIT SCREEN!!!!!

Small window ..."LIVE"

Big window...Raging fire that is a FUCKING LOOP / same timeframe with different cameras to give impression the fire is worse!!!!!!

YOU FUCKERS ARE DOING THE TERRORISTS JOB FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 2:14 pm | #

EDITORIAL: Patriot Act knows no limits
Anti-terror bill used to go after those in Strip club probe

Do FBI agents believe the surviving leaders of the elusive Osama bin Laden terror network have been conducting strategy sessions over take-out tabouli and hummus, while holed up in the basement of the Jaguars Gentleman's Club, owned by Mike Galardi, near Sahara and Interstate 15?
Are there reliable reports of al-Qaida weapons stashes there and at the Cheetah's topless bar, just across the highway and also owned by Mike Galardi, in partnership with his father Jack?
Of course not. The Galardis and their lobbyist, former Clark County Commissioner Lance Malone, are under investigation by federal law enforcement agents who assert the bar owners paid off municipal officials here and in San Diego to create a more favorable regulatory environment for their establishments.
So what on earth were FBI agents thinking when they cited Section 314 of the USA Patriot Act as their grounds for faxing subpoenas to two Las Vegas stockbrokers on Oct. 28, seeking financial information on many of those who have been targeted in the ongoing Galardi probe?
"It's just as the ACLU said from the start," explains Gary Peck, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Nevada. "The Patriot Act, which was originally passed off as dealing solely with terrorism, in fact expands government power in areas that have nothing to do with terrorism."
Critics have warned from the start that provisions in the bill would gut what remains of our financial privacy under the Bill of Rights. The Bush administration responded the new powers were needed to fight Arab terrorists, and would be used sparingly.
The critics responded that once federal agents had these powers, there would be no limiting their application to only those cases where the suspects wear headcloths.
Sure enough, a mere two years after its enactment, the use of the Patriot Act in a case as far from "9-11" terrorism as the Galardi topless bar probe proves the skeptics were right.
The Patriot Act provision "was used appropriately by the FBI and was clearly within the legal parameters of the statute," argues Special Agent Jim Stern, a spokesman for the Las Vegas field office of the FBI.
If that's true, then major portions of this law need to be promptly repealed, unless the high court can get at them and overrule them, first.

aqua teen hunger force comment, the entire unconstitutional act needs to be repealed and its authors JAILED for treason!!!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.30.07 - 2:09 pm | #

SWEEEEEEEEEET......

Hey GE/AOL/News...

You are looping the fucking images.

And you are showing "NEW VIDEO" from the same fucking general area.

You guys are the real terrorists!!!!!!!!

You are terrorizing people on July 4th weekend. How can you call yourselves American??????

Stop terrorizing the world with your NEW VIDEOs showing the same fucking thing in the past.

It is a fucking car on fire you treasonous fucks!!!!!

And the dialog in the backround is so scripted it is hilarious.

Guys, watch the techniques. We will need to know these techniques to discern future false flag, media coordinated propaganda incidents that attempt to rob us of even more freedoms.

They are indicting themselves with the loopiing video and commercial free coverage.

Someone should check if they planned on running any commercials yesterday...

Track the fucking lies.

Who are the program coordinators?

Do they work for the CIA like AC???
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 2:06 pm | #

Big F U to Blair/Bush/Cheney regimes.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 12:50 pm | #

Sane,brother, this was the "red carpet" event for brown (replacing blair) don't you find it "funny" that as soon as moron brown says,"im gonna be tougher than blair" then "BANG" a dude of a car bomb he just wants to feel welcome as the new P.M. of that bastard state called England.
aqua teen hunger force | 06.30.07 - 1:53 pm | #

There is no way it takes 50 firemen 3 hours to put out that fire, either they are being told not to or all the stations are looping the fucking footage. Can anyone verify that this footage is being looped???

Something tells me that all 4 were supossed to go off at the same time and the "news" coverage was already planned, but they do not have enough explosions so they need to loop the same footage.

Can anyone check???
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 1:50 pm | #

Are there any cops with a spine in England or Scotland, erm, No, you spinless fucks, thats why I like Killing Cops
cop-KILLA | 06.30.07 - 12:56 pm | #

Killa,
truth is, there are still a few good people in the law enforcement "community" so you really aren't a "cop-KILLA", you really are a NWO cop killa!!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.30.07 - 1:45 pm | #

ALL THREE CONSPIRATORS...News Corp./GE/AOL-TimeWarner. All three are showing commercial free coverage of a car on fire for a full hour!!!!!
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In this same amount of time time...

At least 100 civilians died in Iraq.

At least 20 civilians died in Afghanistan

At least 10 people were evicted in New Orleans

At least 100 children were denied admission to a US hospital for care

At least 10,000 more Americans are being planned to get fired.

At least 1,000 Tons of poisonous food is being imported from China

At least 10 children are being raped in Halliburton juivenille centers.

At least 1,000 Americans developed cancer from GE/AOL/News Corp blacked out stories.

So watch the fucking car on fire to ease the real pains in this country and the world.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 1:43 pm | #

False Flag

Anyway, Iran is nowhere near a bomb, despite what you’ve heard. They’re years and years away and would stop tomorrow if you gave them a peace guarantee. They tried to do this in ‘03, as you remember. Anyway, they believe — the intelligence community keeps on saying, “There’s no bomb there.” And Cheney keeps on saying to the young briefing officers, “Thank you son, I don’t buy that,” in that nice pleasant tone.
aqua teen hunger force | 06.30.07 - 1:40 pm | #

I love MSNBC/GE/Creator of Death Camp Security Systems talking about the Scotland Jeep.

"They are saying hundreds if not more could have been killed and injured in this terrorist act."

Reality check....

The two guys IN THE FUCKING CAR when it exploded are still alive!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 1:30 pm | #

With all the heat this administration is under (and, finally, a little from our Bozo congressmen ...) the time is ripe for more "false flag" 'terrorism'. Heaven forbid a car with 50 gallons of gas were to explode (although much worse seems to happen everyday now in Iraq) ... maybe the "brave policeman" who put it out was a 'Barney Fife'-type carrying a squirt gun!

With "Presidential Directive #51" in place and fiasco of Bush Sr./W/Cheney's bumbling, criminal misappropriation of The Leo Wanta Settlement (www.worldreports.org), look for bigger and badder operations to happen over here soon. This is one desperate band of crooks ...
John McGuire | 06.30.07 - 1:16 pm | #

Police hunt for London car bomber

Beelzebub Corporation Brainwashing News
Friday, June 29, 2007
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Well they don't have to hunt far, just pop along to the other side of the river from the Parliment Buildings, knock on the door at the MI5 inteligence buildings, [you know, just opposite Strawberry Sundae, the Chunnel Club,] and there you can speak to the Bombers working for the Saxxe Coburg Gotha, who is really behind all the MUrder.
Suprising that just about everybody in the country knows she murdered Diana, but she's not even been questioned.
Are there any cops with a spine in England or Scotland, erm, No, you spinless fucks, thats why I like Killing Cops
cop-KILLA | 06.30.07 - 12:56 pm | #

Does anyone find it amusing that the MI6 cannot even hire competent terrorists? Out of 3 possible terrorist attacks, they have managed to kill or injure NOBODY. They should have got the CIA to do it.
bob dole | 06.30.07 - 12:41 pm | #

They are zero for 4 if you count each London car bomb separately:

Controlled explosion at Ibiza airport
Saturday, 30 Jun 2007 16:16
http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/...rt- $1104947.htm
A suspected Eta bomb has been safely detonated at Ibiza airport after a security alert. Earlier the entire complex was cleared on the Balearic island when Spanish police received a tip-off from Basque newspaper Gara. The newspaper has been traditionally used by separatist group Eta to announce planned attacks. Gara said an anonymous caller had informed it of an "explosive device" at the Spanish island's airport, which has now had all outgoing and incoming flights cancelled for today. Earlier this month Eta announced it was withdrawing from a unilateral ceasefire; one it had previously declared would last forever. But despite the truce last December two people died at Madrid's Barajas airport in an Eta blast. More than 800 people are thought to have died during the group's bloody struggle for an independent Basque state, despite the majority of resident in northern Spain and southern France saying they are content with their already high levels of autonomy.
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CIA-Alqaeda is still pissed that the Madrid bombs had the opposite effect there that it had here and in London. They tried to tie Eta to it in a Gara newspaper to later point the finger and say, "see Eta." Unfortunately, Madrid anti-terror experts already know this trick and use Gara as another of their many warning mechanisms.

Big F U to Blair/Bush/Cheney regimes.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 12:50 pm | #

Car bomb plot likely to be work of Al Qaida

Daily LIES LIES and more fucking LIES Mail
Friday, June 29, 2007
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You better go and interview the Head of Al Quida, Dick Cheney, as he has now been exposed for this as well
cop-KILLA | 06.30.07 - 12:48 pm | #

Weather control and the NWO
http://pesn.com/2005/09/06/96001...r_Modification/
scanner | 06.30.07 - 12:21 pm | #

>>>>Scotland attack was coordinated with the media...

Again as opposed to the C4 at G8, look at a sample of the headlines released within 37 minutes!!!!!

Car On Fire Outside Of Scotland Airport CBS 13, CA - 8 minutes ago (AP) GLASGOW, Scotland Police in Scotland say two cars have crashed outside Glasgow’s international airport, and one of them burst into flames. ...
http://cbs13.com/topstories/ tops..._181112221.html
Burning car crashes into Glasgow, Scotland airport 590 KLBJ News Radio, TX - 16 minutes ago Police in Scotland say two cars have crashed outside Glasgow's international airport, and one of them burst into flames. A police spokeswoman says the cars ...
http://www.590klbj.com/News/Stor...y.aspx? ID=70408
Breaking News: Crash & Explosion at Scotland Airport Stop the ACLU, PA - 12 minutes ago Initial reports say the fire is outside of the building, and that it did not penetrate the airport. The man inside the car “scuffled with police” according ...
http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/...otland-airport/
Car on fire drives into Scottish airport terminal-report Reuters.uk, UK - 33 minutes ago LONDON (Reuters) - A car on fire attempted to drive through the front doors of a terminal at Glasgow airport in Scotland, the BBC reported on Saturday, ...
http://uk.reuters.com/article/ UK...029242120070630
Report: Car on fire outside Glasgow airport | KXNet.com North ... KXMC
http://www.kxmc.com/News/139706.asp
Car rams into Scottish airport terminal - police Reuters India
http://in.today.reuters.com/news...ia-282608- 2.xml
'Car on fire' driven into Glasgow airport Telegraph.co.uk
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/.../ naiport130.xml
Report: Car on fire outside Glasgow airport USA Today - 26 minutes ago GLASGOW, Scotland (AP) — Two cars crashed outside Glascow's international airport Saturday, with one of them bursting into flames, police said. ...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/wor...- saturday_N.htm
Car on fire outside Glasgow airport International Herald Tribune
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2...rport- Crash.php
Report: Cars crash near Glasgow airport Houston Chronicle, United States - 6 minutes ago 2007 AP GLASGOW, Scotland — A driver tried to ram a burning Jeep Cherokee into the main terminal building of Glasgow airport Saturday, ...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story....ld/ 4934555.html
Report: Cars Crash Near Glasgow Airport Los Angeles Times, CA - 8 minutes ago By AP GLASGOW, Scotland -- Two cars crashed outside Glascow's international airport Saturday, with one of them bursting into flames, police said. ...
http://www.latimes.com/news/nati...world- headlines
No confirmation of possible Glasgow airport attack CTV.ca, Canada - 12 minutes ago AP GLASGOW, Scotland -- Police say one of two cars that collided outside Glasgow's international airport have burst into flames. A police spokeswoman says ...
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Articl...70630? hub=World
Report: Car on fire outside Glasgow airport WHO-TV, IA - 7 minutes ago AP - June 30, 2007 11:23 AM ET GLASGOW, Scotland (AP) - Police in Scotland say two cars have crashed outside Glasgow's international airport, ...
http://www.whotv.com/Global/stor...8& nav=menu100_2
Report: Car on fire outside Glasgow airport | KXNet.com North ... Reiten Television KXMB Bismarck, ND - 18 minutes ago AP GLASGOW, Scotland (AP) Police in Scotland say two cars have crashed outside Glasgow's international airport, and one of them burst into flames. ...
http://www.kxmb.com/News/139706.asp
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Take a screen shot, before it gets messed with - 37 fucking minutes and every news agency in the world is at DEFCON 1 !

http://news.google.com/news?q=sc...tland% 20airport

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UPDATE: MSNBC is tying the London Fake Bombs to this incident and saying that US needs to do more to protect its citizens from suck deadly and visious terrorist acts. They sound like Guiliani.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 12:06 pm | #

Larry Scott WXPK62 weather controller, from The Daily Show..enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h? v=QC1UHTKrVrY
scanner | 06.30.07 - 12:05 pm | #

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More on the US Terrorist attempt at the G8 Summit:

U.S. security caught smuggling C4 into Germany G8 Summit, Claimed ...U.S. security caught smuggling C4 into Germany G8 Summit, Claimed They Were Just Testing Security
http://www.roguegovernment.com/n...ews.php? id=2522
US agents try to smuggle C4 into G8 as a "test"US agents try to smuggle C4 into G8 as a "test" ... forced their way into a marine exclusion zone near the G8 summit at Heiligendamm in Germany on Thursday. ...
http://www.gnn.tv/threads/25883/ ...to_G8_as_a_test
LP: Terrorists Attempt Smuggling C4 into G8Get this: the U.S. Security personnel who were caught smuggling C4 into the G8 summit claimed they were just testing the capability of German G8 security. ...
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...i? ArtNum=191119
President Bush misses the G8 Summit.....perhaps it was to miss the ...Stomach bug strikes Bush at G8 summit Published: Friday June 8, ... security by trying to smuggle C4 plastic explosive past a checkpoint at Heiligendamm. ...
http:// www.evolutionofdeception....oiledterror.htm
G8 False Flag Terror Attack Averted?US "security men" attempted to smuggle C4 plastic explosive past checkpoint ... During the Genoa G8 summit in 2001, police planted petrol bombs in schools ...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...g8falseflag.htm
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Of course 20 days later only five links that even remotely mention this blockbuster story compared to just over 24 hours we have over 1,000 stories on TV and in print on the London facade.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 11:39 am | #

Sane (I assume your nickname is ironic)

I am not going to waste my time by responding to your inane posts any more. I am a "truther", but I now see that the MSM is correct in labelling some others who call themselves that foul-mouthed lunatics with intellects that would shame a baboon.

Have a nice day.
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 11:04 am | #
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Feel free to come back when the search for truth is a bigger priority in life than catering to your ego. It should be soon as Cheney seems to have built over 1,000 death camps with Halliburton/GE.

We'll be here unless someone CIA-Suicides us or Ken-Ley-Heart-Attacks us.
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 11:16 am | #

I sometimes think that "truthers" can be as callous and vicious as those whom they claim to be morally superior to. Sure, petrol and gas are not high explosives, but then neither are gunpowder or napalm. They all, however, can be as lethal and destructive as high explosive in the "right" circumstances. If the car bomb had gone off (as it seems that it was planned to do) as the nightclub was emptying, can anyone deny that scores, if not hundreds, of people could have been horribly maimed or killed by it? Or wouldn't that matter because whoever planted it couldn't get hold of the high explosives that it seems this blogger requires to stir his moral outrage and compassion for the potential victims?
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 9:13 am | #
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Sentence 1: I sometimes think that "truthers" can be as callous and vicious as those whom they claim to be morally superior to.

This is a misleading opening without any supporting evidence. If the rest of your post read something like the following, then your opening sentence would be completely appropriate:
...I recently saw a "truther" demolish a building using military grade explosives while rescue workers were trying to get victims out. The explosions caused most of the original victims plus the firefighters to die as a pretext to take civil liberties and start unnecessary wars. After this, another "truther" prevented reports on the condition of the area to be released so that the people cleaning up the area are now dying a slow death. In addition, these "truthers" have intimidated, blackmailed, payed of, and KILLED people who have attempted to find out what happened.

Notice how that would validate your opening sentence?????
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Sentence 2: Sure, petrol and gas are not high explosives, but then neither are gunpowder or napalm.

How fucking misleading can you be?? You are well aware this is a technique used to mind fuck people into rationalizing the progression of the system we now have. A system that systematically takes liberty from us which causes an exponential increase in terrorism. The issue with gunpowder is not how highly explosive it is, you disinfo artist. Since when do a billion people use gunpowder to drive a car? Since when is napalm used for anything else but scorcing the Earth and the bodies in its path. You offhandedly compare petrol and gas with banned and tracked substances to "pull a Guiliani" and make these items completely trackable and controllable. So now we can expect all financial records, increased odor surveillance [not used for petrol, but for an assortment of other surveillance], increased illegal police breakins, even further detirioration of civil liberties, etc.
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Sentence 3: If the car bomb had gone off (as it seems that it was planned to do) as the nightclub was emptying, can anyone deny that scores, if not hundreds, of people could have been horribly maimed or killed by it?

Yeah you disinfo agent, anti-terrorism expert Larry Johnson as well as thousands of other anti-terrorism experts can officially deny this worldwide fallacy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h?v=QK5- jIfOBjQ

Where did you study anti-terrorism, from Doug Feith or anyone else at AEI?
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Sentence 4: Or wouldn't that matter because whoever planted it couldn't get hold of the high explosives that it seems this blogger requires to stir his moral outrage and compassion for the potential victims?

Wow, that is a mouthful. How much moral outrage did you have when US black ops were caught at a German checkpoint transporting C4 to the center of the G8 protesters right after Bush left the meeting because he was "suddenly ill?" Gee do ya think the C4 was a little bit more of an issue than gasoline bombs that could only kill an occupant sitting inside the vehicle? Why is there no 24/7 coverage of the US black ops with the C4? Have you even heard about it? London can find out who did this in microseconds with their 4 million cameras. But they are playing it up and the MIC controlled media is LOVING IT!!! Breaking story after breaking story, and not one fucking word about Iraq or Afghanistan. Apparently you care more about propaganda threats than our children that are getting blown to pieces in our wars. Wars that are increasing the terrorism threat.
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Care to post anymore Bullshit on this thread so it can also be ripped to threads????
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 11:13 am | #

I sometimes think that "truthers" can be as callous and vicious as those whom they claim to be morally superior to. Sure, petrol and gas are not high explosives, but then neither are gunpowder or napalm. They all, however, can be as lethal and destructive as high explosive in the "right" circumstances. If the car bomb had gone off (as it seems that it was planned to do) as the nightclub was emptying, can anyone deny that scores, if not hundreds, of people could have been horribly maimed or killed by it? Or wouldn't that matter because whoever planted it couldn't get hold of the high explosives that it seems this blogger requires to stir his moral outrage and compassion for the potential victims?
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 9:13 am | #
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Sentence 1: I sometimes think that "truthers" can be as callous and vicious as those whom they claim to be morally superior to.

This is a misleading opening without any supporting evidence. If the rest of your post read something like the following, then your opening sentence would be completely appropriate:
...I recently saw a "truther" demolish a building using military grade explosives while rescue workers were trying to get victims out. The explosions caused most of the original victims plus the firefighters to die as a pretext to take civil liberties and start unnecessary wars. After this, another "truther" prevented reports on the condition of the area to be released so that the people cleaning up the area are now dying a slow death. In addition, these "truthers" have intimidated, blackmailed, payed of, and KILLED people who have attempted to find out what happened.

Notice how that would validate your opening sentence?????
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Sentence 2: Sure, petrol and gas are not high explosives, but then neither are gunpowder or napalm.

How fucking misleading can you be?? You are well aware this is a technique used to mind fuck people into rationalizing the progression of the system we now have. A system that systematically takes liberty from us which causes an exponential increase in terrorism. The issue with gunpowder is not how highly explosive it is, you disinfo artist. Since when do a billion people use gunpowder to drive a car? Since when is napalm used for anything else but scorcing the Earth and the bodies in its path. You offhandedly compare petrol and gas with banned and tracked substances to "pull a Guiliani" and make these items completely trackable and controllable. So now we can expect all financial records, increased odor surveillance [not used for petrol, but for an assortment of other surveillance], increased illegal police breakins, even further detirioration of civil liberties, etc.
__________________________
Sentence 3: If the car bomb had gone off (as it seems that it was planned to do) as the nightclub was emptying, can anyone deny that scores, if not hundreds, of people could have been horribly maimed or killed by it?

Yeah you disinfo agent, anti-terrorism expert Larry Johnson as well as thousands of other anti-terrorism experts can officially deny this worldwide fallacy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h?v=QK5- jIfOBjQ

Where did you study anti-terrorism, from Doug Feith or anyone else at AEI?

More coming...
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 10:58 am | #

As for the callousness and viciousness of some "truthers", I think I need point no further than your posts for supporting evidence .
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 10:55 am | #

""I sometimes think that "truthers" can be as callous and vicious as those whom they claim to be morally superior to."

This is a misleading opening without any supporting evidence. "

Would you care to inform me how I can give supporting evidence about what I sometimes think. Would a brain scan satify you, perhaps?
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 10:42 am | #

I will check back in later. I need to go help build concentration camp #801.
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 10:42 am | #

LOL, so troofers are terrorists blowing up buildings and killing people?

SANE!

I never thought you would admit it!
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 10:40 am | #

I knew you would eventually admit that I tell the truth.
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 10:29 am | #

Wake the fuck up!
I See Stupid People | 06.30.07 - 10:20 am | #

Amuzed, how ya been?

Are you saying you wish to use facts, logic, evidence, and references today???

AWESOME!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 10:24 am | #

Sane

Would you care to elaborate what in my statement you think isn't true? Then I can respond.

David Stanley

You don't think that the London car bombs should have been reported????????
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 10:24 am | #

A: it is irrelevant to the potential victim if he/she gets horribly maimed or killed by a high explosive or an incendiary bomb. B: if you think that all Jihadists are ready to make the ultimate sacrifice of their own lives when this is not necessary for the success of a particular operation, then I'm afraid that you are sadly misinformed and you need to do some research.
Alouet | 06.30.07 - 10:15 am | #
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Ok shithead, what the fuck are you talking about?

Of course the terrorists do not make the ultimate sacrifice...that is why Dick Cheney and Henry Kissinger are still alive you moron!
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 10:22 am | #

Damn sane, your good! You can post messages on reader comments 34 and 37, at the same time! Bravo!
Scanner | 06.30.07 - 10:11 am | #
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You don't know all the other sites I am posting to also at the same time
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 10:19 am | #

Damn sane, your good! You can post messages on reader comments 34 and 37, at the same time! Bravo!
Scanner | 06.30.07 - 10:11 am | #

Another report with anonymous sources. That isn't a report.

I do agree the public should be vigilant, take their cameras out and cover what is going on. Even former cabinet members have referred to the Metropolitan Police as a fiction factory, what they are up to should be scrutinised and recorded.

In response to a prior poster on what is and isn't an explosive, it would certainly be devisive to treat this incident in isolation. The UK, US and other allies have illegally invaded and occupied foreign nations, torturing and murdering their people. The bombs and butchery continue, and in such circumstances I don't think a car in London is newsworthy.

If London were seriously attacked, by whoever, this is likely to be the consequence of Anglo American foreign policy. I think sufficient evidence of that fact has been reported on this site, indeed failure to contest this as prisonplanet has done, would in principle be a war crime.
David Stanley | 06.30.07 - 10:05 am | #

The UN should declare Mars to be earth property an begin to auction individual plots of land. It's almost all mapped out anyway with coordinates. Then they could auction off neighboring solar systems, star clusters, even galaxies. How much for the black hole at the middle of the Milky Way?
Don't laugh.
pc | 06.30.07 - 9:01 am | #
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Whose laughing:

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These fuckers are way ahead of us in reality than we are in fantasy...WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 10:01 am | #

Sounds more like a punk who got carded at the club or an unpaid debt to extorsionists. More to fear out of Black ops trained crazy dudes with a pistol than car bomb rookie.
Nice car though seemed like a premium car to be using as a bomb.
A real terrorists would have committed suicide to ensure destruction and devastation so the fact that they didn't explode with people inside excludes any real Extremists right?
Starmadillo | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 9:53 am | #

Small bomb goes off at Spain's Ibiza airport
Sat Jun 30, 2007 08:40 AM EDT
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070...m/ spain_bomb_dc

Spain's Ibiza airport evacuated on bomb alert: report
Sat Jun 30, 2007 08:30 AM EDT
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/ 20070...n_evacuation_dc
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 8:49 am | #

>>>>>Bomb explodes at Spain's Ibiza Airport
sane | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 8:45 am | #

What happened to the photo that was with this story when I looked at it earlier today? Why would Prison Planet remove a photo?
Giordan Smith | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 8:40 am | #

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm...CA& chanID=sa003
Designer Enzyme Cuts HIV Out of Infected Cells
Bacterial enzyme turns the tables on deadly retrovirus
By JR Minkel

Scientists have constructed a custom enzyme that reverses the process by which the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) inserts its genetic material into host DNA, suggesting that treatment with similar enzymes could potentially rid infected cells of the virus. In tests on cultured human tissue, the mutated enzyme, Tre recombinase, snipped HIV DNA out of chromosomes.

The NWO Bastards that created HIV are going to love this!
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 6:56 am | #

We can always spot the NWO bunch when they speak of the directions.
Remember when Rummy said that Husain's wheapons of mass destruction were " East, West, South and North of Baghdad?
Gorbachev used the same phrase. Bush and his Father have also. A Clinton has.
It always starts with the East.
The rising Sun.
Most people say, North South East and West.
The NWO bunch say East. West. South and North.
East, the rising Sun and North is for War.
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 6:46 am | #

If we go back and look at the countries that the U.S. CIA has meddled with since 1933.
We find that on every occasion, that country has not been under the control of the International Bankers.
The countries that the U.S. is targeting today are free of the Banks.
This unrest today in the world is not to protect the interest of the American People, it is to expand the dominance of the International Bankers.
The American People have been duped for a very long time. The People of America, Canada and Europe have been and are being used for world dominance. Fact.
These One World Government People have spent a very long time and a lot of OUR wealth to get to the point they are at today.
They can see the prize of world dominance in sight. Almost in their grasp.
If the people of this world do not wake up and fight against these people very soon, it will be too late.
How can they sell a E.U. to the people of Europe?
Now it is North Americas turn.
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 6:15 am | #

The London Bomb Scare Crap is Totally NWO BS!
Some one please Shoot those Assholes at The News Media for Spinning NWO BULLSHIT!
Lets see what the Sex Pistol Said in a Song they Did
SEX PISTOLS LYRICS

Song title > "God Save The Queen"

God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb
God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming
Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems
Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid
When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dust bin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, you're future
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future
For you

I Guess That Sums it up Best For those Living in the UK , Keep being Stupid & Believe what Your Gov tells you & there will be NO FUTURE FOR YOU!
Wake up you Stupid English Fools!
TIME TO WAKE UP!!!!!!!!
doctor No NWO | 06.30.07 - 6:06 am | #

I work in that area and have had lunch in the Tiger Tiger nightclub a few times (by day a trendy middle class lunch venue, by night a popstar haunt with plenty of coloureds).

This story is something out of nothing - I've addressed this in the FC Blog accessible at www.politicalsoldier.net

All power to Alex Jones and this superb web-site!

Don't believe the Neo-Con lies!!!!
Final Conflict | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 5:51 am | #

Fascism

Doctrine; collection of concepts; and dictatorship by government of a country, often involving hostile nationalistic attitudes and private economic ownership under rigid government control. A fascist regime is often militarily belligerent.
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 5:44 am | #

fascism:
Definition: politics of dictatorship.
Antonyms: democracy.
1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
2. (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice. The term fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Benito Mussolini in Italy (1922-43), and the regime of the Nazis in Germany were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
In the post-war period, the term has been used, often prefixed by ‘neo’, to describe what are viewed as successors to these movements.
" neocons"
Genuinely fascist ideologies are: monist, that is to say, based upon the notion that there are fundamental and basic truths about humanity and the environment which do not admit to question; simplistic, in the sense of ascribing complex phenomena to single causes and advancing single remedies; fundamentalist, that is, involving a division of the world into ‘good’ and ‘bad’ with nothing in between; and conspiratorial, that is, predicated on the existence of a secret world-wide conspiracy by a hostile group seeking to manipulate the masses to achieve and/or maintain a dominant position.
In content, these ideologies are distinguished by five main components.
1. Extreme nationalism, the belief that there is a clearly defined nation which has its own distinctive characteristics, culture, and interests, and which is superior to others.
2.An assertion of national decline—that at some point in the mythical past the nation was great, with harmonious social and political relationships, and dominant over others, and that subsequently it has disintegrated, become internally fractious and divided, and subordinate to lesser nations.
3. This process of national decline is often linked to a diminution of the racial purity of the nation. In some movements the nation is regarded as co-extensive with the race (the nation race), while in others, hierarchies of races are defined generically with nations located within them (the race nation); in virtually all cases, the view is taken that the introduction of impurities has weakened the nation and been responsible for its plight.
4. The blame for national decline and/or racial miscegenation is laid at the door of a conspiracy on the part of other nations/races seen as competing in a desperate struggle for dominance
5.In that struggle, both capitalism and its political form, liberal democracy, are seen as mere divisive devices designed to fragment the nation and subordinate it further in the world order.
With regard to prescriptive content, the first priority is the reconstitution of the nation as an entity by restoring its purity. The second is to restore national dominance by reorganizing the polity, the economy, and society. Means to this end include variously: (1) the institution of an authoritarian and antiliberal state dominated by a single party; (2) total control by the latter over political aggregation, communication, and socialization; (3) direction by the state of labour and consumption to create a productionist and self-sufficient economy; and (4) a charismatic leader embodying the ‘real’ interests of the nation and energizing the masses. With these priorities fulfilled, the nation would then be in a position to recapture its dominance, if necessary by military means.

Such priorities were explicit in the inter-war fascist movements, which indulged in racial/ethnic ‘cleansing’, established totalitarian political systems, productionist economies, and dictatorships, and of course went to war in pursuit of international dominance. But such parties can no longer openly espouse these extremes, and national/racial purity now takes the form of opposition to continuing immigration and demands for repatriation; totalitarianism and dictatorship have been replaced by lesser demands for a significant strengthening in the authority of the state, allegedly within a democratic framework; productionism has become interventionism; and military glory has been largely eschewed.

Looks like America today.
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 5:26 am | #

As german news-site heise.de reports the following agreement was made:

- the amount of data-records per passenger is reduced from 34 to 19, but the effective amount of data remains the same as some records were combined (i.e. Street, Zip, City, Country to one Field "Contact-Information")

- duration of data-storage is now 15 years (was 3.5 years), wereas Michael Chertoff first wanted 50 years!

- German Minister of the Interior Wolfgang Schaeuble stated, that this agreement was low priority and that the german government also would have left the data-transfer unregulated.

- Minister Schaeuble now plans a similar system of data-retention about flight-passengers within the EU
mrworf | 06.30.07 - 4:48 am | #

I know you didn't ask that question, and, up to a point, I was, in fact, agreeing with you that no self-respecting alien would want to shake hands with George Bush or quite probably any other world "leader". However, I certainly disagree with you that aliens would have no interest in observing this planet, with particular concern for the mess that it is in. Perhaps they want to make sure that we don't eventually spread into space and eventually do to them what the US is now doing to Iraq, or perhaps (to be rather more pessimistic) they are sizing us up for invasion. At any rate, I hardly think they would just ignore us.

Peace to you.
Alouet | 06.29.07 - 5:18 pm | #

Dear Alouet,
must confront this~~
Perhaps they want to make sure that we don't eventually spread into space and eventually do to them what the US is now doing to Iraq, or perhaps (to be rather more pessimistic) they are sizing us up for invasion
I don't think they are planning on invasion, But I do think that if they are from "out there" somewhere, they are more concerned with making sure we don't poison their "space"

They prolly don't conduct warfare anyway, which would make sense because if they were warriors, they would have attacked LONG ago, before we invented those pesky lil nukes!!!
Peace to you "up north"
aqua teen hunger force | 06.30.07 - 4:31 am | #

Another LIe Repeater story puked from the arse of the globalist press shit-stains.

We don't beleive you, cos you told to many lies you stupid fucking pukers.
Fuck off with your bullshit. Who gives a fuck.
You will start dieng soon cos i've had enough of you lie-repeaters.
cop-KILLA | 06.29.07 - 7:59 pm | #

COP-KILLA,
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO SPEAK AND WRITE ENGLISH?
DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL TOUGH USING SUCH FOUL LANGUAGE?
YOU NEED TO PURGE YOURSELF OF THAT FOUL MOUTHED DEMON!
GOD | 06.30.07 - 4:21 am | #

We still hold about 60 percent of the land, but the bankers will move to take that from US! Thus, we cannot grow crops and raise cattle and sheep to feed and clothe ourselves. Land and private property are not only the sources of wealth; they are the sources of human survival and freedom. WWIII will cause just the terror needed to make every man, woman and child in America cling to government for protection. Then, our government will morph into the North American Union and eventually into the New World Order envisioned and created by the bankers.

We still have the power to stop all this. We are presently cooperating with the very organized criminals who are planning to enslave US. All we need to do is two things: first, organize and second, "DIS-COOPERATE!" Gandhi and King called this "civil disobedience." We are so much more entangled with our almighty central government that when we resist, we can bring this huge house of cards crashing down!
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 4:08 am | #

If the government fears resistance, then that is precisely what we should give them. If they fear organized citizens, then that's precisely what we should form. Do you now understand why Christianity and its religion and churches are under constant attack from the IRS branch of government? Americans are already organized through their churches. Do you now understand why we need a "separation of church and state" in order to preclude an organized voice? Why shouldn't churches mobilize a national religious protest against an immoral, mass-murdering, criminal and constitutionally-illegitimate government? Do you now understand why we need "hate crimes?" Freedom of speech MUST BE STOPPED!!!!
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 4:07 am | #

http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=0
Anonymous | 06.30.07 - 1:47 am | #

man, scary true. word.
anonymous | 06.30.07 - 12:04 am | #

You will start dieng soon cos i've had enough of you lie-repeaters.
cop-KILLA | 06.29.07 - 7:59 pm | #

I wanna strap em to a wall and let 1000 people use em for dartboards.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 8:05 pm | #

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=25151#102219

there.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 8:01 pm | #

US urges vigilance after London incident

Associated Propoganda Press, lieing for the IllumiNAZI
Friday, June 29, 2007
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Another LIe Repeater story puked from the arse of the globalist press shit-stains.

We don't beleive you, cos you told to many lies you stupid fucking pukers.
Fuck off with your bullshit. Who gives a fuck.
You will start dieng soon cos i've had enough of you lie-repeaters.
cop-KILLA | 06.29.07 - 7:59 pm | #

is why I said what I did about ron paul earlier. he's been in DC like 40 years, knows who's good and bad, and pussyfoots around about the real stuff. its a SHAM.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 7:59 pm | #

well sure the surge is creating even more soldiers deaths, its giving halliburton/KBR/blackwater more human shields to hide behind !! theres 200,000 troops there and 100,000 blackwater mercenaries doing anything they want without oversight or accountability MAKING "insurgents" HATE and KILL American soldiers. if our soldiers had any sense theyed declare war on BLACKWATER!!
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 7:35 pm | #
____________________

Step 1: Engage in an unneccessary war

Step 2: Use the war fallout to create a greater psyche of domestic fear and recruit more patsies

Step 3: Engage in false flag terrorism as a pretext for more unneccessary wars

Step 4: Repeat Steps 2 and 3 until there are only 50 million left for the elites to rule over.

1, 2, 3 What are we fighting for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...h? v=LBdeCxJmcAo
Anonymous | 06.29.07 - 7:49 pm | #

“No man is an island, apart from the main.”
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 5:32 pm | #

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well sure the surge is creating even more soldiers deaths, its giving halliburton/KBR/blackwater more human shields to hide behind !! theres 200,000 troops there and 100,000 blackwater mercenaries doing anything they want without oversight or accountability MAKING "insurgents" HATE and KILL American soldiers. if our soldiers had any sense theyed declare war on BLACKWATER!!
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 7:35 pm | #

SURGE CREATES LARGEST US DEATH TOLL DURING THE ENTIRE IRAQ WAR

Iraq Ambush Caps Bloodiest Months for US
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu.../20070629/iraq/
BAGHDAD — A huge bomb explosion followed by a hail of gunfire and grenades killed five U.S. soldiers, the military said Friday. The attack came as the Pentagon tallied up the deadliest three-month period for Americans since the war began.

Seven soldiers were wounded in the attack Thursday in the Rasheed district, a mixed Sunni-Shiite area of southern Baghdad where U.S.-led forces recently stepped up pressure on extremists. The commander of U.S. forces in Baghdad suggested the ambush could be part of an escalating backlash by Sunni insurgents.

Those deaths brought to 99 the number of U.S. troops killed this month, according to an Associated Press count. The toll for the past three months _ 329 _ made it the deadliest quarter for U.S. troops in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion. That surpasses the 316 soldiers killed during November 2004 to January 2005.
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 6:32 pm | #

We get the government we deserve, and this government does not care for us, it cares only for itself and the private, global, corporate interest it represents.
BG | 06.29.07 - 5:40 pm |

same story in the US nowadays too. all bullshit.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 6:02 pm | #

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It is the case worldwide. If we continue to buy into the corporate entity as a being with rights we are all going ot die! Corporations need to be severely limited in their rigths and powers!
peace
Ron in LA | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 6:09 pm | #

OOOh, isn't it great we have CCTV..paramedics at the right place, the right time. Traffic wardens (Nazi's in uniforms), doing their civil duty..doesn't it all fit nicely, he?

And ooooh, BBC news reports that in the last 5 mins the news just has enough time to report on the fact that one of the cars has "just" been inspected! Wow, are we glad the BBC is there at the right time, too..

It's all conveniently timed as a means of scarring the crap out of UK Citizens. Those citizens have put up with terrorism for years - this is nothing new. What is new, is the realisation that the terrorists may wear suits.

And let's now talk about London returning to "normal"..normal as in mayhem. The same for most of England. Normality here is crime, overcrowding, low wages and long hours, high taxes, pathetic lack of investment in education and health. Every single day in this country our citizens are being raped, robbed and murdered..try walking these streets; CCTV won't be there to help you whilst you're being killed..it will just pay to keep lawyers in jobs after the event. The media doesn't give a toss unless there's potential for spin, as demonstrated by the overwhelming focus on white-on-black crime despite statistics that paint a completely reversed representation. Fact is, this country is at war - if you are a UK citizen you are at war with the criminals on the streets, and the criminals in Whitehall.

So tell us something we don't know - tell us about a 'threat' to our already threatening environment. All the government is interested in is justifying it's own horrid behaviour and that is why we see timed events such as this.

We get the government we deserve, and this government does not care for us, it cares only for itself and the private, global, corporate interest it represents.
BG | 06.29.07 - 5:40 pm | #

My contribution to the UFO truths:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h? v=UbPR1yI3XSI

Proof they exist // And NASA keeping the truth from us.

Cover up // Hush up // Shut up // 7 UP // Don't even bother getting up -- Yet another TRUTH being kept from us.
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 5:39 pm | #

The lonely American
Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:08:00

By Gaither Stewart (http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/ article_2101.shtml)
Each day I watch the TV news images of American soldiers on the streets of Baghdad and wonder if the same images are shown in the United States. If they are shown, I wonder why the people do not rise up in revolt. Each day I feel a deep sympathy for the infinite loneliness of the American soldier in Iraq.
The soldier in dust-colored camouflage uniform and helmet, his bullet-proof vest (not really bullet- proof and certainly not bomb-proof, as I see each day: five of them died yesterday in Baghdad alone), brandishing his automatic weapon, standing alone at a Baghdad checkpoint, an empty look on his face (though he is terrified and wonders how he got into this chaos), surrounded by a world he does not understand, by people speaking a language he does not understand, in the middle of a war he does not understand, this bewildered American seems to be the loneliest man in the world.

Because I am an American, I watch this soldier sadly. I think that there stands the emblem of America’s isolation in the world. And I think also that something is dreadfully wrong in a country that still has a supply of volunteers to go to the deserts to kill strangers with super weapons and drop firebombs on cities from invisible planes in the stratosphere . . . and with a 10 percent chance of being killed themselves for the worst possible reasons.

Beyond politics, beyond the questions of war and peace, I wonder about Americans in general, so lonely in the universe. A whole people feeling the loneliness you feel behind locked doors. Behind walls. A kind of vacancy. What is it that other people have and we Americans do not? Or what do Americans have that others do not? Why are Americans different? I do not believe it was always that way. But it is today. And it is a mystery.

Recently I began asking friends in Italy where I have lived for over three decades those questions. Italians say that Americans are spoiled; they have it too good; they haven’t suffered enough. Europeans often think of Americans as children, difficult children, with a childlike air of impregnability about them, whom real life has not yet touched.

But there is no clear answer. Europeans do not understand my questions. I think my questions are not clear. Few Europeans admit that they consider Americans fundamentally different from other human beings. Few admit to anti-Americanism. For most people in the world we all belong to the same species. We are all just men. We all must aspire to feeling a oneness with the world.

Still, old friends in Europe occasionally ask me what I as an American think about one thing or another. They ask because they see how different things are in America. What do I think about ordinary things like national health services and pension plans, about unemployment compensation and welfare, about electoral systems and democracy? How is it possible, some ask, that America’s powerful presidents are elected by a minority? Very often they ask about the death penalty, non-existent in Europe. Today in these times, the most frequent questions concern war.

Now, some Americans might believe my answers to such questions are obvious: that of course I as a progressive favor a national health service for America, pension plans, unemployment compensation, welfare, immigrants, a multiparty political system, democracy, oppose capital punishment and reject war.

Still, that is not my point, either. I believe Europeans really want to ask what is wrong with America. Not wrong in the ethical sense of right and wrong. But wrong as in astray, as in to go wrong, But they do not know how to frame the question. They too speak of the differences of the nation of America but I believe that without realizing it they too want to know why Americans as individuals are different from other peoples.

What is missing in Americans? For example, what do Mexican people have that Americans lack?

When I settled in Europe in the sixties, Americans were still broadly well received throughout the continent; America still had a lot of credit for its help in World War II and for the Marshall Plan, although already then admiration was mixed with envy and resentment at American success and arrogance. Here I should say straight away that Americans were then well received except by part of the skeptical European Left that, as it turned out, was right in its suspicions.

The pre-Vietnam years were still good years for Americans. America was leading the “free world” alliance against the Soviet Union: Moscow’s quashing of the Hungarian revolution in 1956 and the Prague rebellion in 1968 covered America’s spreading dark spots in matters like Watergate, the crushing of democracy in Latin America and the growing involvement in Vietnam. The existence of the “evil” Soviet Union and the Cold War gave America’s rulers a free hand as it did for another two decades.

Though as a rule most governments lie to the governed, it was precisely the great Cold War lie that poisoned America and Americans. For it was a lie. In the name of anti-Communism, everything was permitted. Everything was justified in the same way everything is permitted today in the name of anti-terrorism. America was good. God was on America’s side. Few Americans doubted. My generation hardly even considered the question of right or wrong, of good or evil. Everything was clear: Communism and the Soviet Union were evil; America was blessed by God.

The most virulent anti-Communist propaganda filled the eighties: nuclear warfare scares, statistics and testimony showing that Communism’s conquest of the world was imminent; Soviet military-economic power was a terrible thing. What a surprise then for the Soviet experts that at the end of that same decade the Berlin Wall fell and overnight the whole shebang collapsed. It was a paper tiger.

Yet, by then more Europeans had begun doubting the state of American democracy. The category of skeptics broadened. Vietnam and American support of dictatorships from Chile to Nicaragua, from Iran to the Philippines, eroded doubts among many Europeans in whose minds America was now becoming the “empire of evil.” In America, dissident voices were labeled anti-American, Communist traitors -- and today, terrorists.

In Europe today, it is no longer a question of what reactionary Washington labels the European Left’s “visceral anti-Americanism.” The sad reality is that antipathy to this America has infected many if not most Europeans.” Now it has become a question of right and wrong, of good and evil.

Though most Americans believe in the myth of their democracy, European polls show an America far down the list of developed democracies. The criteria have to do with electoral systems (no one understands the American system!), political representation, the distribution of real powers, etc. For example, surprise, surprise, Germany’s democratic parliamentary system stands at the top of many lists.

Some Americans reductively think anti-Americanism is a question of hate and envy of America. But it is not true. It is my experience and the opinion of Italians, or French, or Dutch, or Germans, or Danes, that the quality of life in Europe is simply much higher than in America perennially preoccupied with comfort and ease. This is not to say that Europeans are not greedy and avaricious for creature comforts. On the contrary. They are. Yet, because of social correctors within the market economy, because of the social state, the poor in Europe are less poor than in America. Can any sane person believe Europe is craving for fast food joints and endless shopping malls and national flags and advertising banners waving everywhere and God on the lips of its fundamentalist leaders? Is this the progress America wants to export and go to war for?

The truth is Europeans see America as the land where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. They see a government that does little for its citizens in a land where the word social is taboo. And God has nothing to do with it.

Nor is it true, as many Americans might like to think, that Europeans want to be like them. Italian emigration to the USA? No more! Many Italians visit America or go to shop there -- everything costs less with European currency since the dollar has been artificially devalued in order to make Europe pay for the war in Iraq. But today I know no Italian who would like to live in America. But I know many Americans who would like to live in Italy. Though it is true that a tiny minority of Europeans still hold to America and imitate it, they are not the best of Europeans.

Perhaps never before have the differences between Americans and Europeans been greater. But why? What is it? Who is at fault? Why this gulf?
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 5:33 pm | #

Politics and economics and peace and war apart, I believe it is a question of Americans’ uncertain place in the human race. When I write here Americans, I admit I have in mind white conservative Americans of European heritage of the great American heartland. And also those who spend so much time speaking of tolerance and trying to decide which politically correct label to attach to Blacks and Indians and Latinos -- as if “African American” and “Indigenous American” and “Hispanic American” made things right. It is my experience that the majority of these Americans are not on the same wavelength as other people in the world.

Oh, the accused will gasp and say how naïve! How anti-American! How narrow-minded! How prejudiced! The fact remains that as human beings Latin Americans are on the same wavelength as other people in the world. Russians are. Arabs are. Asians are. Most black Americans and Latinos and Indians are.

So why not most white Americans? Many will be surprised -- though they shouldn’t be -- to hear that they are regarded in some of Europe in the same way they are among the ghettos of blacks and browns in LA or Miami or New York City.

And their government is largely at fault.

Their government, their society, and their lonely culture.

American tourists today cut pitiful figures traipsing curiously around Europe, seeing only quaintness and cuteness and condescendingly trying to imitate. They make countless digital snapshots but never quite get the real picture. As if living a year in a Tuscan village were bridging the gap. The local people will drink wine with you. They will reach out to you. They will try to love you. They want to be able to feel the real you. To feel that you are like them.

But, I fear, they will never understand you or even grasp why you are there. For Americans are a people of many emotions and sensations but embarrassed by feelings.

Even more. Such false relationships are symbolic of the more profound differences, the chasm separating Americans from the rest of the world. How, the European wonders, can a citizen of the leading power of the civilized world support the death penalty? Just think about that one point for a moment. How can you explain legalized state murder to a person who considers it barbarous?

Or, the average European wonders, how can a majority of voters in the land of freedom support a system dedicated to crushing freedom? How can citizens of the land of democracy vote for a government that sponsors dictatorships around the world and calls them democracy? How can a democratic nation exist in a political system of two parties, which though they have different points of departure and programs, in power are so similar as to form a one-party system? How can a people ready to go to war to export democracy sacrifice its own democracy in the process?

The mystery is why a majority of Americans who bother to vote sustain a government that fears and hates democracy and its own Constitution as ours does? Why are Americans as chained to their leaders as convicts are chained to their guards? And why do they tolerate a government that needs a wall around America?

Which leads inevitably to the danger of the gradual but inevitable degeneration of an enduring ideology based on anti-Communism, anti-Socialism, anti-terrorism, all of course with God’s special blessing and protection, straight into Fascism.

One could think that Americans are retiring from the world. That they have forgotten the rest of the human species. That they no longer even have the same weaknesses and strengths of other people. That they stand outside even themselves. Outside, and alone.

People from the prison of the former Soviet Union were once like that -- when they were let out they saw the rest of the world with astonished eyes.

I have not answered my question. I still do not know if I have posed the question correctly. We Americans want brief and concise answers to clear questions. Maybe that in itself is part of my point.

I feel ill at ease writing this. I am uncertain. I am sad. I am not objective. But life is not objective. Life is not accommodation. Life is not concise. Human life cannot be reduced to a few precise sentences. Life is not a short short story. Life is past, present and future.

Yet, Americans are different. In a negative sense. My gut feeling is that it is due to a lack of real connections with the rest. No wonder the national paranoia. No wonder America’s sense of loneliness.

Hopefully, Americans will begin to search for their lost kinship with the rest. For it will always be true as the English poet John Donne wrote, “No man is an island, apart from the main.”
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 5:32 pm | #

Lyne - Occult Science Dictatorship - The Official State Science Religion and How To Get Excommunicat
http://www.scribd.com/doc/69283/...- Excommunicated
...religious scientific thought-control zombies, who have fallen victim to the pressure to believe the science that Big Brother wants them to. In Occult Ether Physics (1997, 1998 ), Space Aliens From the Pentagon (1993, 1996), and Pentagon Aliens (1999), I expounded on and documented the most important discovery in science, Nikola Tesla's electrodynamic space propulsion. Tesla and his work were literally burie...

[conspiracy] Battles Beneath The Earth
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63611/...neath-The- Earth
...he public has been kept in total darkness about the reality of UFOs and 'aliens', is that the truth of the matter actually exists TOO CLOSE TO HOME TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT. How could a spokesman for the Pentagon dare admit that five or ten thousand feet underground EXISTS AN ENTIRE WORLD THAT IS 'FOREIGN' TO A BELIEF STRUCTURE WE HAVE HAD FOR CENTURIES? How could, for example, our fastest bomber be any challe...

Cooper, Milton William - The Ufo Conspiracy
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63654/...-Ufo- Conspiracy
...e you they're minor ones, if I have. "We have just recently, for those of you who didn't believe that the Jason Society of the Jason Scholars, the secret group, existed, we now have a letter from the Pentagon, with 51 names of the Jason Scholars, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold the highest security clearances in the nation, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold the protocol rank of...
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 5:32 pm | #

Terminator Seed Ban Proposed In Canada
When you buy some seeds, you own all of the plants descended from those seeds, right? Don't be so sure.
Sane,
Links please sir
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 4:50 pm | #

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Sc...sp? NewsNum=1073

Ya gotta love the visual!
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 5:27 pm | #

IF YOU HAD THE TECHNOLOGY TO TRAVEL LIKE THEY DO,(WHOMEVER 'THEY' ARE)
WOULD YOU COME TO THIS FILTHY PLANET?? OR, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME!!!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 4:57 pm | #

Michael Tarsion [sic] has an interesting answer to your question.

Also it is pretty well established that the elites love creating alien hoaxes.

Read Pentagon Aliens and Look into Mauri's Story:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6776/L...Pentagon- Aliens
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 5:25 pm | #

Just got done watching Dream Girls (Eddie's best acting role) and they mentioned that Elvis Presley's Hound Dog was stolen from an R&B Singer in one of the many deceptions that take place in the musc industry.

Here is an excerpt from the last year she was alive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...related& search=

Here is the original hound dog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...related& search=

Just pointing out all the industries these fuckers control to deceive us and create more tools for blackmail and corruption.

Enjoy!
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 5:21 pm | #

Calm down Patrick/aqua teen hunger force. I know you didn't ask that question, and, up to a point, I was, in fact, agreeing with you that no self-respecting alien would want to shake hands with George Bush or quite probably any other world "leader". However, I certainly disagree with you that aliens would have no interest in observing this planet, with particular concern for the mess that it is in. Perhaps they want to make sure that we don't eventually spread into space and eventually do to them what the US is now doing to Iraq, or perhaps (to be rather more pessimistic) they are sizing us up for invasion. At any rate, I hardly think they would just ignore us.

Peace to you.
Alouet | 06.29.07 - 5:18 pm | #

The Global Elite: Who are they?

There are two common misconceptions held by those who are critical of globalism. The first error is that there is a very small group of people who secretly run the world with all-powerful and unrestrained dictatorial powers. The second error is that there is a large amorphous and secret organization that runs the world. In both cases, the use of the word "they" becomes the culprit for all our troubles, whoever "they" might be. If taxes go up, it is "they" that did it. If the stock market goes down, "they" are to blame. Of course, nobody really knows who "they" are so a few figureheads (people or organizations) are often made out to be the scapegoats.

Depending on a person's politics and philosophy, the scapegoats could be the U.S. President, the ACLU, the Ford Foundation, or Vladimir Putin. The point is, the real power structure is not correctely defined, and thus escapes exposure. These misconceptions are understandable because when things are wrong, we all have a driving need to know who to blame! In some cases, elitist slight-of-hand initiates and then perpetuates false assumptions. This writer has never been accused of charging that all large corporations are guilty of initiating and perpetuating globalization. There are many businesses, including banks, who are led by moral, ethical and good-hearted businessmen or businesswomen. Just because a company might touch globalism does not mean it and its management or employees are evil.

Every bit of thirty-five years of research indicates that there is a relatively small yet diverse group of global players who have been the planners and instigators behind globalization for many decades. The primary driving force that moves this "clique" is greed; the secondary force is the lust for power. In the case of the academics who are key to globalism, a third force is professional recognition and acceptance (a subtle form of egoism and power.) It is also important to understand that core globalists have full understanding of their goals, plans and actions. They are not dimwitted, ignorant, missinformed or naive.

The global elite march in three essential columns: Corporate, Political and Academic. For the sake of clarity, these names will be used herein to refer to these three groups.In general, the goals for globalism are created by Corporate. Academic then provides studies and white papers that justify Corporate's goals. Political sells Academic's arguments to the public and if necessary, changes laws to accommodate and facilitate Corporate in getting what it wants.

An important ancillary player in globalism is the media, which we will call Press in this report. Press is necessary to filter Corporate, Academic and Political's communications to the public. Press is not a fourth column, however, because it's purpose is merely reflective. However, we will see that Press is dominated by members of Corporate, Political and Academic who sit on the various boards of directors of major Press organizations.This report will attempt to identify and label the core players in the globalization process. The intent is to show the makeup and pattern of the core, not to list every person in it. Nevertheless, many people will be named and their associations and connections revealed. This is done for two reasons.

First, it will equip the reader be able to accurately identify other core players as they are brought into focus. Secondly, the reader will be able to pass over minor players who may sound like "big fish" but in fact are only pedestrians.

Organizational Memberships
The old saying, "Birds of a feather, flock together" is appropriate for the perpetrators of globalism. Sociologically speaking, they are like any other people group with like interests: they naturally tend to form societies that will help them achieve their common interests. A side-benefit of fellowship is mutual support and encouragement. Once formed, such groups tend to be self-perpetuating, at least as long as common interests remain. In modern history, the pinnacle of global drivers has been the Trilateral Commission. Founded in 1973 by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski, this group is credited with being the founder of the New International Economic Order that has given rise to the globalization we see today.

Obviously, Corporate's partnerships with Political, Academic and Press has been very successful.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 5:14 pm | #

"If you were a creature from another world, would you really want to come "visit" this polluted, hateful planet??
Especially if you had the "technology" to travel anywhere you wanted??" Patrick

As an UFOlogist and someone who believes in the POSSIBILITY that we MAY be being visited by alien life, I can say that the only good thing that has come out of the Bush presidency for me is that I am no longer challenged by disbelievers with the question: "Well, if aliens ARE coming here in UFOs then why don't they land on the White House lawn?". The answer to that is now obvious to everyone.
Alouet | 06.29.07 - 4:40 pm | #

Alouet, you didn't read that question the way I posted it.read it again,~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If you were a creature from another world, would you really want to come "visit" this polluted, hateful planet??
Especially if you had the "technology" to travel anywhere you wanted??"
I said absolutly nothing about "landing on the white house lawn,duh, what I said, to make it easier to read:
IF YOU HAD THE TECHNOLOGY TO TRAVEL LIKE THEY DO,(WHOMEVER 'THEY' ARE)
WOULD YOU COME TO THIS FILTHY PLANET?? OR, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME!!!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 4:57 pm | #

Norman D. Livergood

http://www.hermes-press.com/ germ...germany1930.htm
We who live in the post-World War II period possess an immensely valuable symbol, even if we don't understand it or use it effectively: the example of Nazi Germany.
"The German experiment, except to those who are its victims, is particularly interesting, and, like the offer of a strong man to let himself be vivisected, should make a great contribution to political science. For the Germans are the most gifted and most highly educated people who ever devoted the full strength of a modern state to stopping the exchange of ideas; they are the most highly organized people who ever devoted all the coercive power of government to the abolition of their own intellectual life; they are the most learned people who ever pretended to believe that the premises and the conclusion of all inquiry may be fixed by political fiat."

Walter Lippmann. (1936), The Good Society

An Unknown Episode In American History

Nazi Germany was created by the criminal cabal that currently rules the United States and much of the world. One of the early underlings of this cabal was Prescott Bush, Dubya's grandfather. Prescott Bush was a director of the Union Banking Corporation, which the U.S. government took over in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corporation stock shares, all of which were owned by E. Roland Harriman, Prescott Bush, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Prescott Bush.
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:46 pm | #

Address by Richard M. Nixon to the Bohemian Club/1/

San Francisco, July 29, 1967.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/fru...xon/i/ 20700.htm
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:36 pm | #

Real life consists for most people of far more immediate threats, like paying the bills, advancing in one’s job, passing school exams, and getting a good parking spot at the office. Unfortunately, the time is upon us when none of these things will matter. All the "sensible" concerns of everyday life are about to become totally meaningless. As it is written:
They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will be an unclean thing. Their silver and gold will not be able to save them in the day of the LORD’s wrath.
Ezekial 7:19
It is difficult to envision that the seemingly stable North American culture could be overturned. That is because for most of us, we have not been exposed directly to war and disaster. Such things are only images on TV. They happen to other people in far away places.
But we are about to be consumed by the most horrifying and violent events in history. These events are foretold in the bible.

Wake up kids, time for schoooooollll !!!!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 4:35 pm | #

Bacteria Torture Tests Demonstrate Evolution
Dr. Richard Lenski has followed in the footsteps of famous sf writers, creating captive worlds and learning from them.

Terminator Seed Ban Proposed In Canada
When you buy some seeds, you own all of the plants descended from those seeds, right? Don't be so sure.

Dutch Growing Pork In Lab
Researchers at it again, in search of pulled pork not pulled from porkers.

Neuron Network Cyborg Has Memory
Is this cyborg-like combination of neurons and silicon a new proof of this kind of memory system?

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Sc...sp? NewsNum=1063

[From TOTL earlier]
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:32 pm | #

Patrick, have you read Pentagon Aliens yet?
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:31 pm | #

Just seeing your helpful posts,Sane, is enough reason to read your posts and leads!!
Love ya,Sane!
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 4:23 pm | #

Right back at ya bro!
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:29 pm | #

Just seeing your helpful posts,Sane, is enough reason to read your posts and leads!!
Love ya,Sane!
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 4:23 pm | #

The truth is that space research has, from the time of Gallileo, been a threat to your kind of dogmatic Christian, because it raises awkward questions about why God created such an immensely huge universe, if it is otherwise empty apart from us. And, if it is not empty, but perhaps teeming with alien life (some of which indeed may be visiting us) how does that square with the geocentric mythology that has been imposed on Jesus the moral teacher - does every planet in the universe with intelligent life get sent its own "savior" or does Jesus visit them all in turn and get crucified again on each?

Can't let this one go without comment,
You SAID"your kind of dogmatic Christian,"
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I AM A JUDEO-CHRISTIAN,I do not follow a lot of the dogmas preached in the government chuches!I am not a sheep in that respect, I do know my God and Saviour,Christ Jesus, PLUS- just because Christ had to die for our sins, DOES NOT MEAN the rest of the universe commited any sin and needed a saviour!From what I have read, Adam is the only one that disobeyed Gods command,so it is very likely that the rest if the intellegent universe did not sin and therefore DID NOT NEED a Saviour!
think about that!
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 4:21 pm | #

Guys someone uploaded all of Kurt Vonnegut's work at scribd.

You can donload them all to .pdf files.

Guys Kurt Vonnegut, like George Orwell saw the destruction in Dresden and knew what was coming. Slaughterhouse Five was banned in many countries because of the information it revealed. Books like these, when read by the population are some of the best defenses against long term nefarious plane.

Enjoy!

http://www.scribd.com/search? que...sortorder=views

______________________
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 4:05 pm | #

And to take your theory (which I don't condemn)
If you were a creature from another world, would you really want to come "visit" this polluted, hateful planet??
Especially if you had the "technology" to travel anywhere you wanted??
Seriously,
Dont you think there are a lot better things to do if you were a sinless creature with their capabilities in this vast expanse?
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 3:58 pm | #

Check out: Crazy Jamaicans confuse Zionist Extraterrestrials as "ghosts" so-called.
http://www.jamaica-star.com/thes...news/ news1.html

للمواقع الإخبارية والإعلامية !?!?!
ThePlanetHollywood | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 3:57 pm | #

If you see an aerial drone you can
1. waive at it and talk to it as a friend
2. swear at it and give it the finger
3. moon it
4. expose yourself*
this is my favorite, however it could shoot your weiner off
pc | 06.29.07 - 3:56 pm | #

Grteetings Alouet | 06.29.07 - 3:44 pm | #

Guess what, they never even went to the moon!!
there are no such thing as extra-terrestrails. those that have been abducted were taken by govbernment or demons.

As for lifespans, I have no problem with the claims of the bible that they lived for nine hundred + years. which would also explain where we came up with how to create some of the fantastic food dishes we enjoy as well as technological advances,

To me, it is conceivable that if you had the ability to think on things for a few hundred years, you will come up with answers that a person with only 50 or so years to think could never figure out. hope that makes "cents".
peace
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 3:52 pm | #

19 They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will be an unclean thing. Their silver and gold will not be able to save them in the day of the LORD’s wrath. They will not satisfy their hunger or fill their stomachs with it, for it has made them stumble into sin.
Ezek 7:19

This is for Alex and the rest of the gold advocates! It doesn't matter if gold was the medium of exchange for a million years, when the anti-christ takes his position, he will make it so no-one can buy or sell without the mark,not gold, the flipping mark of the beast!
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 3:45 pm | #

Hi Patrick

You say: "there is no way that any living creature can traverse the distances of space to visit earth." Well, although Einstein's theories suggest that spacecraft cannot travel faster than the speed of light, that would not, for example, prevent any living creatures from a planet around the star Alpha Centuri making the four year trip to visit us. Four years is a long time for us humans, but who knows what the lifespans of creatures from other worlds might be (if you believe in your Bible then you will know that it claims that the original inhabitants of Earth lived for centuries), and who knows how far they might be able to travel in their extended lifetimes even at restricted sub-light speeds. Then, of course, they could also use generational ships, like arks, in which the original crew members die, but their progeny carry on the mission. And then, finally, there is the fact that many physicists do not accept that the speed of light is an impassable barrier anyway (research tachyons - faster than light particles - and the warping of space-time to nullify distance and time).

The truth is that space research has, from the time of Gallileo, been a threat to your kind of dogmatic Christian, because it raises awkward questions about why God created such an immensely huge universe, if it is otherwise empty apart from us. And, if it is not empty, but perhaps teeming with alien life (some of which indeed may be visiting us) how does that square with the geocentric mythology that has been imposed on Jesus the moral teacher - does every planet in the universe with intelligent life get sent its own "savior" or does Jesus visit them all in turn and get crucified again on each?

You may think that I am being irreverent, but truth is truth and you cannot hide from it forever. At present there is NO evidence that the unimaginably vast universe that was created along with (in fact, for the most part, long before) the Earth was a mere pointless waste of God's time and energy, so rationally you cannot assume that it is. Unless God is a deceiver, he (she or it) wants us to discover and know the truth and not delude ourselves with comforting fantasies.
Alouet | 06.29.07 - 3:44 pm | #

WTC MISSILE UPDATE: Footage of a UFO seen in the same frame as the air strike on the South Tower, appears to be either a cruise missile or an air to ground missile which impacted the WTC complex moments later. Most visible at this link, the pieces of wreckage at 7 seconds and 19 seconds in The Smoking White Plane video, should not be confused with the missile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...related& search=

…as the second jet rammed its target, ‘…That was an explosion,’ says Stephen McArdle a tax consultant, from inside the Marriot Hotel, he was taping as part of an FBI sting operation. …Then comes a longer and much louder explosion. Greg Smith 2002. The second explosion was thought to be the detonation of the missile’s warhead…

The following statement is from Jack White’s 911 Studies: The South Tower was hit at 9:03, at 9:04 CNN televised a significant explosion between the North Tower and Building 7 the location of WTC 6, the 8-Story Customs House… Photo: a pyroclastic cloud in an inner city environment, caption… while onlookers were distracted by the events at skyscraper level, moments after the second plane hit the South Tower, WTC 6 was torn apart by a massive explosion. The crater in the building was eight stories deep, an immense hole blasted into the sub basements… all eight stories missing… no wreckage… blown away… vaporized by the thermonuclear warhead on the missile, it did seem. However the CNN footage and NY1 footage both reveal an absence of smoke, or any blast fallout at ground level simultaneous with the impact at 9:03, which one could associate with a guided missile strike.

Thus the above statement is in error, Torrent File 911-0856-1256 WABC-CNN footage, reveals the pyroclastic cloud event occurred at 10:04am simultaneous with the collapse of the South Tower. The explanation given on the web is that the cloud is associated with the collapse, this writer believes that the tremendous damage to WTC’s 45&6 was the cause, but that the alleged missile in the above vid arrived an hour too early to have done it.

Christopher Bollyn’s website has this story… Were DU Missiles Used on the World Trade Center: Photo’s …Caption: …The flame in the photos of the mysterious burning object passing through the South Tower is almost pure white, and leaves a dark trail… Is this the burning remnant of a DU penetrator? 23 October 2004. …The flaming wreckage Bollyn says might be a DU penetrator is not, he posted shots of wreckage thought to be an engine and part of the landing gear of the plane that struck the South tower, which had a different trajectory than the alleged missile. All in all Bollyn’s material is kinda suspect.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 3:42 pm | #

There is a danger in the present material comfort we enjoy. This comfort tends to allow us to over look signals and signs which should be making us change our lives. Earthquakes, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, volcanic eruptions, terrorism, bombings, wars, chemical and biological weapons. These things are a serious threat, and yet the present system we live in grinds along without any changes. There is a reason for this: The system we live in is engineered to destroy us. The system of governments, banks, corporations, media agencies, computer technology, and even the modern education system, is an intelligent, coordinated effort to destroy us. And it is orchestrated by Satan the devil, through occult and secret societies, who conduct the affairs of the world through unwitting politicians and corporate profit agendas.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:56 pm | #

The News Teachers and Childhood Psychology
We are told what is a big story and what is not. We are not allowed to decide for ourselves what to think about the items in the news. The news reporters, through the most subtle facial expressions and vocal intonations, are able to signal us exactly how we should react to each story. Watch for this the next time you watch CNN. The reporter will change his or her tone and facial expression ever so slightly to signal you how you should react to this story - whether you should be amused, outraged, saddened or inspired. Your reaction has been pre-engineered for you and it is waiting for you to adopt it as your own. And subconsciously we search for such signals because we have become so disoriented that we no longer have even enough self confidence to believe that our own interpretation of the story could be valid. We have been trained to repeat the version of the story exactly as it was given to us without question. This is a psychological continuation which the system began in our lives when we were in school. As children in the classroom, the teacher would introduce a topic and then "invite discussion" while gently and subtly leading the class towards the "right answer". Remember hints such as "That’s not quite the answer I was looking for."? The student who gave the answer that pleased the teacher was praised in front of the class, while those who gave their own opinion were encouraged to "try again next time". In this manner the subtle psychological message is implanted early and it is this: When the teacher/boss/newscaster/ authority figure talks about something, watch for the non-verbal hints to determine how you should feel about this subject, and then when you get a chance, make sure that you parrot the party line with all the heartfelt conviction you can muster.
But why would such a technique work so well on us? Are we really that weak? The reason is that from early childhood we seek love and approval and validation from our parents. When we are removed from them and plunked into schools, the teacher takes on the approval/validation role in our parents’ place, and so we begin to look to them. We learn to act and say whatever it takes to get their approval, and those who do not conform become deviants. This process is continued throughout life and the teacher is replaced by the boss and the newscaster, or anyone we deem to be in authority over us. The lack of childhood love and validation, which the system stole from us by taking us from our parents at an early age, forms a lifelong insecurity and search for validation which is never resolved, and it results in our seeking to please authority figures throughout our lives. The system does not want you to know that it works like this, because if you did you may actually free yourself.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:50 pm | #

The Master Plan
But what ties all these conspiracies together? What is behind them all? Are they all the independent efforts of various governments, spy agencies and corporations, each pursuing their own selfish agenda, or is there a "higher purpose" which underlies and coordinates all these diverse strategies into one master plan?
The author contends that the master plan is to destroy mankind and the master planner is Satan the devil. The spy agencies, governments, corporations, banks etc. are all, whether they realize it or not, simply carrying out the devil’s work. And the devil’s work is based upon deception, as it has from the beginning, when he deceived Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. Satan wants to prevent human beings from attaining their inheritance of citizenship in the Kingdom of God, and in order to do this he must obscure every element of truth which relates to history, religion, and human psychology. Why is deception the key to the devil’s work? Because, as Christ said, "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." (John 8:32). It is truth, and mature understanding of truth, which brings human beings into a mature relationship with God. Separation from truth separates us from God. Satan is the enemy of truth. Christ called him "the father of lies" (John 8:44). This denial of truth which characterizes the devil goes back to the time when God created the angels - including Satan, and Satan came to doubt God’s explanation of the created order. Satan questioned whether he and the angels were created by God and therefore subordinate to Him. The devil’s reasoning went along the lines that from the first recollection of their consciousness, the angels’ could not know how they came into being, and God could simply have come into being among them, telling them he was their creator in order to gain power over them. Satan successfully convinced a portion of the other angels that this was a plausible argument, and the confusion about the origins of the universe continue to this day, manifested in the theories of the big bang and evolution from apes. (The author does not dispute the big bang, but contends that if it occurs, it was by God’s hand. As for evolution, the author does not presume to know the extent to which human beings have evolved since their creation, but contends that human evolution within the human species does in no way conflict with the biblical account of creation.)
The establishment of God as Creator is so vital that God chose to make it the very first statement in the bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
If we want to be really analytical as to the first words in the bible, it is significant that the very first four words are simply "In the beginning God" - the implication is that God pre-existed everything - a fact well known to believers, but a point of stumbling for philosophers who seek a means to explain life apart from God:
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."
John 8:44-47
Successful deception depends upon injecting a little bit of truth along with the lies. This technique is central to Satan’s methods and can be seen in the tactics of all his organizations, especially the spy agencies, in the methods of their propaganda. This is due to the way the human mind processes information. When we hear any information, our "paradigm filters" automatically seek to put the new information into context with the established knowledge we already have. This causes us to associate the new information with other related facts we have stored. By mixing some truth with propaganda, disinformation is successful because it triggers the brain’s natural associative response. Propaganda specialists have learned that fooling people is actually very simple. All that is required is to present the false information within the context of information which people already believe. We all want to make sense of the world. For most of us, being able to make sense of the facts quickly, in order to feel more comfortable, takes precedence over an in-depth understanding. Most of us are lazy thinkers, and dictators take full advantage of this. Adolf Hitler said: "What luck for rulers that men do not think."
What are we to make of all the conspiracy theories we hear? They cannot all be true and they cannot all be false. In most cases, truth and lies are mixed up in every story. This makes it very hard to know how to deal with all the information. The key to understanding it all is to know the motives behind those giving the information. Christ said that we can tell whether a tree is good or bad simply by looking at the fruit which it produces. If it produces good fruit, it is a good tree, and if it is a bad tree, it will produce bad fruit. We can, therefore assume some things about the world we live in. The produce of this world is suffering, death and destruction. Therefore this world is evil. It is evil because Satan the devil has control over it. (1 John 5:19). If the devil has control over the world, he also has control over the organizations which produce the news. We already know that his plan is based on deception, so it follows that of all the organizations under his control, those organizations which can be used to mislead us are going to be most important to him. The most important human organization under his control is the media.
What then, is the purpose of the satanically controlled media? One of the most incredible efforts underway is to make us believe in the existence of aliens, an effort which will culminate in an attempt to discredit the second coming of Christ.
Most people believe that the government is trying to cover up alien encounters. That is exactly what they want you to believe. It is a simple case of using reverse psychology, by "leaking" just enough "classified information" (such as Roswell) to create suspicion of a cover-up, and then going to great lengths to maintain secrecy. The whole thing is a farce.
There are no aliens, except the ones which the CIA has invented. Why such an effort? Because the CIA works for the devil, and the devil can use belief in aliens to "precondition" us for the return of Jesus Christ, such that many people will think that the return of Christ is an alien invasion, and therefore reject Christ. In the book of Revelation it is written that when Christ returns, the armies of the nations will assemble to fight Him.
Why would anyone try to fight Christ? If you know it is God you know you cannot fight Him, since God is all powerful. The only way any person can be deceived into fighting Christ is if they do not believe it is Him. The alien fabrication is the only way in which the system can explain the supernatural events which will take place when Christ returns. Supernatural events which originate from God are meant to cause people to repent. In our scientific age, however, especially with the widespread belief in aliens, the stage is now set for an alternate explanation for the supernatural events which will culminate in Christ’s return. The movie Independence Day was certainly the most powerful example of this preconditioning. In this movie, the ominous clouds which concealed the alien spacecrafts were supernatural looking, especially since the bible reveals that Christ will return "in the clouds." Another theme which the movie adapted from the bible was the international coordination of the world’s military forces in fighting the invaders:
19 Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image.
Rev 19: 19-20
Note the words "deluded" and "miraculous signs" in the above scripture. The popular mind set which will fight against Christ will have been engineered - preconditioned - to see the supernatural events as a manifestation of alien forces rather than God. The Hollywood movies and popular media has created such a powerful belief in an imminent alien encounter, that many people have actually come to expect such an event. Discussion of alien encounters has in many cases taken precedence over discussion of the Christian hope - Christ’s return, which he promised to his disciples:
12 "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
Rev 22:12
The defining character which God gave us is free choice and independent thinking. God does not want us to be robots. He wants us to be individual, intelligent beings who choose good over evil. When human beings come to the point where they choose of their own free will to accept the sacrifice of Christ and to repent from evil and turn to God, a transformation occurs which culminates in humans being reconciled to God. This is the process which Satan wants to undermine, and to do so requires that the very definition of good and evil be contorted into "socially desirable vs. undesirable". If human beings can be deluded into thinking there is no such thing as sin, but instead are orientated to seek state-defined modes of acceptance, then the very basis of discussion for redemption is undermined. This is another way of saying that without the central belief in absolute good and evil, a
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:43 pm | #

Dang it, I forgot to laugh
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Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:36 pm | #

Bush: 'Good results' follow Iraq buildup
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By Maura Reynolds and Peter Spiegel, Tribune Newspapers: Los Angeles Times

June 29, 2007

NEWPORT, R.I. -- Faced with eroding support even among longtime Republican allies in Congress, President Bush argued Thursday that the U.S. troop buildup in Iraq is working and urged Americans and lawmakers to give the military operation more time to succeed.

In a speech to military scholars at the U.S. Naval War College, the president gave his own report on the plan's progress, detailing what he described as "good results" attributable to the buildup he authorized in the winter, including a decrease in sectarian killings and the capture of insurgent leaders.

Although he acknowledged setbacks and uneven progress, Bush made his most detailed case to date that the so-called surge is working and emphasized that the last brigade of additional troops had arrived in Iraq just weeks ago.

"It's a well-conceived plan by smart military people, and we owe them the time and we owe them the support they need to succeed," Bush said.

While expressing frustration with the Iraqi government's failure to enact political reforms, he appealed for leniency, saying that even "long-established democracies" work slowly. Bush's comments come at a time when popular and congressional support for the war -- and the troop increase initiated in January -- has diminished.

Earlier this week, a key administration ally, Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, the top Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee and a leading voice on international affairs, said in a speech on the Senate floor that he could no longer support the strategy.

The progress cited by Bush consisted of a mix of small tactical gains and broader signs that the Iraqi government was more effective in providing security for its people.

Bush said that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki had lived up to his commitments to provide troops for the new security plan and had effectively dealt with the fallout after the recent bombing of a Shiite mosque in Samarra. "They're becoming more capable and coming closer to the day when they can assume responsibility for defending their own country," Bush said.

The developments cited by Bush have been the subject of debate, however. For instance, U.S. military commanders in recent weeks have raised questions about the Iraqi army's ability to take over anytime soon. In addition, one of the advances cited by Bush, involving cooperation between U.S. forces and Sunni Arab sheiks in Anbar province, was under way before the start of the troop buildup. That initiative suffered a significant setback when several of the sheiks were assassinated in the bombing of a Baghdad hotel earlier this week.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:26 pm | #

The Anti-Gun Agenda
What is behind the gun control movement? Are the majority of citizens well served by laws which restrict the use of guns? Has gun control, where implemented, produced a reduction in crime and violence? Guns are unique as weapons because they remove the advantage of physical strength. Prior to the advent of firearms, weapons like swords required a great deal of skill and strength, but guns can be used effectively by anyone.
Guns are therefore a remarkable equalizing force in society, preventing the strong from abusing the weak. If every citizen was armed, or if it were widely known that any citizen had the right to be armed, would there be as many breakins? I suggest that we would be better served by requiring every household to possess a gun than by forbidding it. This I say to make a point and not as an actual recommendation. Let me put it this way: Have we not been told that the concept of mutually assured destruction, as a product of the cold war, was the only thing that prevented nuclear war between the superpowers? Why then does this same principle not apply to individuals? For if each home-owner on the street was armed, what would become of the wreckless youth gangs carrying out a "drive-by shooting" in the neighborhood? I suggest they would each commit such an atrocity only once, and it would be their last earthly act. The concept of mutually assured destruction, while understandably distasteful, was sufficient for the government to justify construction of the world’s most destructive military arsenal, yet it is somehow insufficient to justify the mass arming of ordinary citizens. This is a strange logic indeed. I suggest that the gun control movement is not justified by logic at all, but rather by an agenda which seeks to reduce citizens to frightened victims of crime, so afraid for their lives that they will support any government initiative, no matter how totalitarian, as long as it offers some hope of "safety".
Removing guns does nothing to protect ordinary citizens, since criminals only become more powerful in the wake of such mass disarmament. It is the system of government, including the arm of law enforcement which benefits, since it is now able to be the sole protector of the citizenry. But how effective is the police force at saving a person who’s home is under assault? The police can only intervene after the crime is committed, and therefore do not play an effective role in protecting citizens from violent crime in the first place. The only true protection is for the citizens to arm themselves. Gun control has exactly the opposite effect from that which its advocates present. Rather than increasing public safety, it reduces citizens to an inferior state in relation to criminals, since it becomes easier for criminals to obtain guns than for non-criminals.
What about the economic ramifications of gun control? Is gun control a cost effective method of dealing with crime? What is more sensible, to have a gun in each home so that the home owner has means to protect himself, or to dispatch a police helicopter to the scene in response to a call for help? I would suggest that any adult competent enough to be able to dial "911" is also competent enough to decide when the use of a gun is justified. Or are we of the opinion that it is quite acceptable for a citizen to defend his property with a baseball bat but not with a gun? The mere sight of a gun is often sufficient to deter an assailant. Do we think that the average citizen is not competent to use a gun safely? Once again, the question must be asked: Who is really driving the gun control agenda and whom does it serve? We are being led to believe that gun control is being implemented in response to public pressure. Is it believable that grass-roots pressure is behind the gun control agenda? Here again, the notion of male assertiveness comes into play. How many men have an aversion to guns? Most men are fascinated with them. At what point does this natural male preference for self protection disappear and give way to a politically correct view that wants to rely on the police? My point is that if public demand was forcing a democratic movement to remove guns, then such a demand is certainly not apparent from the natural male propensity for aggressive sports and video games, and therefore it is difficult to see how such a movement as gun control could possibly originate from a male dominated society which has shown such an historical preference for violence as a means to resolve disputes. Are the same male tendencies which formerly resulted in dueling and gunfights now resolved to pick up the phone and call 911? This is difficult to believe. I suggest that the gun control movement cannot be the result of democratic pressures, since there is no evidence to suggest that men have changed their preference for the masculine prerogative to defend them- selves. Are we to believe then that this movement is driven by an outcry from women, who want to disarm men who might threaten them? Hardly, since if equalization of might were the issue, it would scarcely serve women to be without the one means by which the physical disparity between the sexes can be overcome.
The author is not advocating the use of guns to resolve disputes. I am simply trying to make the point that there is no logical explanation of the gun control agenda originating from a democratic process of grass-roots public demand. Is not the democratic process driven by the individual voting in favor of those circumstances which improve his or her own personal condition? How then does gun control benefit any individual voter? If the individual sees himself surrounded by criminals with guns, it is hard to believe that he would elect to deny himself the only means of reasonable protection.
The gun control agenda is driven by governments, who realize that historically the gun has been so effective in equalizing physical force that it has prevented governments from using their power to oppress the citizens. Guns create problems for governments in two ways. First, they reduce the dependency of ordinary people on law enforcement agencies, by providing citizens with the means to protect themselves. This means that law enforcement agencies are less able to justify increases in forceful policing tactics, thereby reducing the power of the state to dominate people’s lives. Secondly, guns in the possession of the vast majority make it difficult for governments to use force to enact unpopular policies. This second point becomes more apparent when viewed in historical context, looking back on the age before guns were readily available. In such times, armored knights on horseback could be used to subdue vast numbers of people, and this was the basis for feudalism, whereby the vast majority were serfs working the land for lords and masters. When the gun became widely available, any discontented serf could dispatch the stately knight from his horse without difficulty - a situation which caused great distress for the feudal lords who depended on physical intimidation to control the population. This lesson of history is not lost on modern governments, since governments are always concerned with the problem of containing the actions of citizens in one way or another. No government has ever existed which, having developed the means to control a population, did not increase such control without end until the citizens finally rebel. It is the very nature of governments to seek to control people, and guns are, historically, the single greatest threat to this control, since they allow ordinary people the means to defend themselves against any aggressor.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:16 pm | #

Evil by Design
The problems we have in the world are not just happening by coincidence. The evil destroying us is a planned effort. It is coordinated and organized by Satan the devil and administered by those in high positions of power. Those of the human realm which are at the very top of the human hierarchy are well aware of the plan and the source of their success, but they will not repent because they are addicted to the power and wealth which is given as a reward to those who serve Satan. They have nothing to look forward to beyond this life, since the only pleasure they will ever enjoy is that which they have in this present evil world:
19 "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, `Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 "But Abraham replied, `Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.
Luke 16:19-25
But even though they have nothing beyond this life, the present reality is powerful enough to convince them that it is worth it. Many people can be convinced to sell their souls for earthly power and wealth. But God tells us not to put our hope in this present world:
19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Matt 6:19-21
The hope of Christians is that despite the evil we are suffering at the hands of Satan, our future is eternal life in the kingdom of God. The future we look forward to is well worth the pain we have to go through now:
10 Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
2 Pet 1:10-11
And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thou sand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
Rev 20:4-6
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:12 pm | #

Alien Abductions and the CIA
What about alien abductions? There are some very convincing stories from people who consistently report abduction stories, even under hypnosis. Could it be they are telling the truth? I suggest that some of these people have indeed been abducted, but not by aliens. I suggest that they are abducted by secret government agencies which are intent on creating an alien scare and manipulating the minds of its citizens. Why would they do such a thing? For one thing, belief in aliens is a powerful incentive to spend money on space research, which is expensive and thereby provides a good excuse for bigger government spending and which can be easily adapted to military purposes. If the public can be convinced that aliens might exist, there is a greater chance of gaining consensus for expensive space stations and lots of NASA contracts for the military contractors.
Another reason for the scam is a little more sinister, and is not likely to be believed by most people. This is the plan to stage alien invasions as a prelude to the return of Christ, and thereby deceive people into thinking that the return of Christ is simply an alien invasion. The problem with postulating about such evil schemes is that most people do not want to believe that any human organization would participate in plots of such evil. What must be understood is that somewhere in the hierarchy of human organization there exists that level of administration which serves Satan knowingly.
If Satan is the ruler of this world, then those who serve him must at some point in the organization be aware of the ultimate goal of the mission. Certainly it is common in all organizations for each level to report only to the layer above it, such that the motives of the very top are hidden from those carrying out the ground work. But at some point, there has to be a direct interface between the top ruler and the executive class. This interface does exist between the spirit realm and the powerful elite who run the world, otherwise there would be no means to manipulate human organizations so effectively. Not only do the highest levels of the human power structure commune with evil spirits, but the spirits give them the power to carry out the plans. This can occur either by revealing powerful technologies, or by providing special insight into the means of executing difficult problems.
It is inconceivable that the horrors carried out in the world today are simply driven by unrelated circumstance. Such atrocities can only be attributed to those who have dedicated themselves fully and irrevocably to the service of evil. They serve the devil knowingly, and in return they are granted power and wealth.
The promise of power and wealth in return for satanic allegiance is well documented in the scriptures:
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
Matt 4:8-9
Worldly power and wealth are also the reward obtained by rock musicians, who attain god-like status in return for promoting satanic themes in their music. The rock music phenomenon bears special attention, as it displays an unprecedented level of material reward. Never before in history has there been the means for a small group of musicians to broadcast their music around the world and to mesmerize millions of people simultaneously. Rock music is used as a powerful dividing force to separate children from their parents and from any traditional belief system. The message of rock music is the same as the law of the Satanists: "Do what you will shall be the whole law."
Rock music glorifies evil, rebellion, destruction, suicide, disrespect for elders, contempt for God, and everything else which is vile. The very appearance of certain rock musicians is designed to appeal to a satanic mind set. But the influence of rock music has evolved beyond the high energy rebellion music of the early musicians, and is now being used to promote not high energy rebellion but low energy passivity and acquiescence. The tone of modern Satan inspired music is less concerned with outward aggression than with inward self-loathing, self-mutilation and body piercing. The focus is no longer to smash guitars on stage, but rather to destroy the inner spirit with a message of complete hopelessness and the blackest sense of foreboding and doom. The new generation which is under attack by the popular music must be made to feel unloved and disconnected from other human beings in order to fulfill the final de-humanizing step in the satanic plan. Which is to create humans which no longer care to think.
How can this be achieved? By replacing the imagination of childhood with the dark images of endless media indoctrination, especially black and white footage depicting a hopeless view of history, giving the impression that every- thing has already been tried, that there are no solutions, and, most importantly, that God is as much a fiction as Santa Clause. Will this strategy work? No. The human spirit, imbued with the spirit of God, has proved resilient beyond the most vicious assaults. Humanity will survive this because, as the bible says:
4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
1 John 4:4
and...
33 "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."
John 16:33
The satanic agenda will fail. But in the near term, it is creating devastation of families, marriages, and entire nations.
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:07 pm | #

The Alien Agenda
The author does not believe that aliens exist. The author believes that man is the special and unique creation of God, destined to inherit the universe. But even if there were aliens - and I say this only to make the following point - there is no way that any living creature can traverse the distances of space to visit earth. My point is that the "alien encounters" which are so often documented originate from a very earthly agenda. That agenda is first to create confusion about the nature of man in relation to God, and more importantly to create a mind set which will cause human beings to reject Christ at His return. Many will believe that the supernatural events culminating in the second coming is nothing but an alien invasion.
The power of the media, and in particular Hollywood, to change human perception is incredible. Modern special effects, to say nothing of the subliminal messages impinging on us, have the power to re-orientate our thinking. The term brainwashing applies, but is perhaps ineffective because of the overuse of the term - it has lost its meaning. The millions of media images and especially the images Hollywood portrays are used to indoctrinate the public into certain very specific thought patterns.
What about the story of the asteroid from Mars that was found in Antarctica, with alien bugs fossilized on its surface? That story received a lot of attention. Afterward, many serious scientists questioned the finding. But it was too late. The intended effect had been achieved. The public had been brought one step closer to the belief that aliens exist.
Who is behind this alien life promotion? While we are being made to believe that the government is hiding evidence of alien contact, I suggest that the opposite is the case - that the government has manufactured the alien story and wants us to believe that it is hiding evidence, in order to create interest in the subject and to set us up for the scam of the century.
First of all, the real activity in flying saucer sightings occurred at exactly the time when the military was most active in developing aircraft - during the second world war. Are we to believe that this was a coincidence? Did the aliens who have to travel millions of miles to reach our planet time the visit so well as to coincide with our development of aircraft?
Some of the very first modern day documented flying saucer sightings were those reported by military pilots, who called the flying saucers "foo fighters". Examination of these reports reveals that the men who saw these aircraft naturally assumed that they were simply top secret military aircraft. It is only through the Hollywood alien scare that the association was made between high speed aircraft and aliens. Any society advanced enough to achieve inter- galactic space travel would also be advanced enough to remain undetected. No matter how fast a space ship flies, the laws of physics state that you cannot travel faster than the speed of light. And even at the speed of light, it takes thousands of years to travel around in the universe. Do we then accept the notion that these alien beings spend thousands of years traveling to visit us, and then go away without saying good-bye? Would you travel for a thousand years just to make a ten minute appearance?
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 2:05 pm | #

Yes. Legalize all drugs.
First of all, lets look at it from a moral perspective. Why do we assume that the government should have the power to control drug use any more than, say alcohol or tobacco use, or for that matter, herbal drugs which are an alternative to pharmaceutical drugs? If I want to take drugs (be assured I do not) then is it really the government’s prerogative to stop me? Nowhere in the ten commandments have I seen any law against using drugs (drugs have existed for thousands of years, and were certainly around during Old Testament times). Nor did Christ ever mention the topic. As a matter of sin, drug use is not even on the radar screen. What about the current trend in which the government is interfering in the use of natural herbal remedies - claiming that they do not have government approval? My point is this: when it comes to the use of any substance or drug, what is the government’s real motive for making themselves our exclusive doctor?
Where did we first get this idea that the government should be allowed to limit the personal use of any substance whatsoever? I suggest that the reason why drugs are illegal is so that the governments and the powerful elite can continue to profit from them. The government makes vast amounts of money from the drug trade. When drug profits are seized they can be confiscated and used by the government to "fight crime". This is the so called "proceeds of crime" bill. This presents a conflict of interest in my view. If the police know that the proceeds of crime can be seized and used to pay their own departments, is there not a conflict of interest in the sense that the police will sustain the drug trade and then simply swoop in at the last minute to make the bust and take the loot, all in the name of fighting crime? What about alternative medicine, including the use of marijuana, which seems to help to relieve pain for some people? Why should we need the government’s approval before we can decide for ourselves which substances we want to use to treat our own ailments? Is this being done so that we are forced to rely on the medical profession? The pharmaceutical companies and the medical profession want to remain as the only avenue through which people can obtain treatment. Is this right? Are we not free to seek out health and happiness in whatever way we find appropriate?
But what would happen if we did legalize all drugs? The same thing that happened when prohibition was abandoned. Some people drink, some people do not drink. Some people drink far too much and too often. Some people under the influence of alcohol even kill others. The same is true of drugs. But the point is that this tragic result occurs and will occur whether or not the substances are legal or illegal. Those who want the substances badly enough will obtain them one way or another. The lessons learned from prohibition are not lost on the powerful elite who control our laws. It is precisely because the powerful elite, connected with the bootleggers of the prohibition era, lost so much income from the legalization of alcohol, that they do not want to make the same mistake again.
There is far too much money at stake to legalize drugs. By keeping drugs illegal, the demand always exceeds the supply, keeping the price high and turning an incredible profit for all those connected with the drug trade, including governments, the CIA, and the police forces of the world. If drugs were suddenly legalized, you would be able to buy them anywhere, resulting in a huge price drop, and worse than that, eliminating the monopoly which the drug syndicates and governments now hold on the single most lucrative sector of the economy.
I am not promoting drug use. Rather I am saying that drug use will occur despite the best efforts of all the police forces in the world. And as long as it is illegal, there will always be so much money to be made from it that it will be very tempting for any law enforcement group to be corrupted by it. And that is precisely what has happened. The whole system which was supposedly brought about to fight the drug war is now sustained by it.
But chief among my suggestions is that the powerful elite who control our world are themselves profiting from the drug trade, and these are the same people who make the laws we live under. For this reason, the laws are not there to protect us, but to maintain the status quo and to protect the drug industry.
It is, in fact, impossible to control most substances. When coffee was first made available in Europe, the aristocracy tried in vain to prevent the commoners from drinking it. Any substance which is found to have desirable qualities will find its way to those who are willing to pay for it. There is simply no logical, moral or financial grounds for enforcing laws against drugs. Every attempt by governments to control substances has failed. And it is quite apparent that our modern war on drugs is also a failure. The use of any sub- stance, whether it is alcohol, drugs or, gunpowder, cannot be regulated.
Any attempt to do so will simply result in the profits of its trade being monopolized by those with political power.
It was because of prohibition that some of the wealthiest families became rich. Those who were adept at playing the corrupt political games of bribes and payoffs were the ones whose liquor made it past the police, and these were the families who did well as a result. The actual result of such laws in fact is an incentive to commit crime, since only those willing to break the law can profit from such laws. How does the average person profit from laws against drugs? He does not profit in any way. In fact he loses money because a large amount of his tax dollars are consumed in fighting the drug war, which can never be won. If drugs were legalized, the only people who would suffer are those who are now selling drugs illegally. And that is exactly why drugs are kept illegal.
When a topic is debated, especially one as charged with controversy as the legalization of drugs, most people do not asses the topic objectively. Instead they immediately react without thinking, feeling it necessary to align themselves instantly with one side of the debate or the other, without first carefully examining the facts. This is why the system can maintain power over us. Because we do not think through the problem carefully.
Adolf Hitler once said: "What luck for rulers that men do not think."
Most people are so consumed by the daily difficulties of life that they have no time or energy left at the end of the day to think about what is happening to them. And this is exactly why the system drives us at such a frantic, exhausting pace. There is a reason why the media assaults us constantly with conflicting, confusing statistics and there is a reason why we are mercilessly harassed in the workplace. It is done this way so that we become mentally, spiritually and emotionally exhausted, and so that we are unable to step back from the insanity and assess what is being done to us.
God says:
"My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge."
Hosea 4:6
The history of humanity is a story of people being oppressed, butchered, deceived and betrayed by a few powerful rulers. Nothing has changed.
And nothing will change until the ruler of this world, Satan the devil, is deposed from his throne and Jesus Christ takes his place. This is what the bible prophesies will happen.
Most people have not studied the bible carefully enough to understand what will happen in the future. For many people, bible knowledge comes second or third hand, from stories they have heard from other people. How many people take the time to actually sit down and read the most important book in the universe?
Patrick | 06.29.07 - 1:58 pm | #

do your own f**king poll. walk outside and ask 10 people the same question...it is more reliable than Zogby.
sane | Homepage | 06.25.07 - 1:39 pm | #

Ecellent advise once again Sane
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 1:53 pm | #

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New York Moves To Ban Public Filming And Photography
Broad rules do not exempt amateur photographers, independent reporters and filmmakers

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Friday, June 29, 2007

With vague reasoning and little explanation, moves are afoot in the city of New York to stamp out all forms of filming in public, be it by professional television crews, protestors or simply by tourists on sightseeing trips.
Some tourists, amateur photographers, even would-be filmmakers hoping to make it big on YouTube could soon be forced to obtain a city permit and $1 million in liability insurance before taking pictures or filming on city property, including sidewalks, reports the New York Times.

Though the Mayor’s Office of Film has said that the new rules are not aimed at families on vacation or amateur filmmakers or photographers, the enforcement would require any group of two or more people who want to use a camera in public for more than a half hour to get a city permit and insurance. The same ruling would also apply to any group of five or more people who plan to use a tripod in a public location for more than 10 minutes, including the time it takes to set up the equipment.

Even people simply holding cameras could be subject to the rules, the ACLU says.

The ACLU has pointed out that there is no distinction in the wording of the rules that excludes non professionals and it would be down to the discretion of the police as to whom to enforce the rules upon.

Given that camera crews are routinely threatened with arrest for filming peaceful demonstrations and the fact that cops have been caught stealing protestor's cameras in the past, the new ruling does not bode well for photographers and independent reporters.

Filming in public is a right every American citizen has under the first and fourth amendments, which is why the cops in the cases above had to steal the camera and the footage, because there was no legal basis to seize it.

We have even seen police seize cameras and film from innocent people under bogus charges of "wiretapping". Earlier this month a man was charged in Carlisle, Pennsylvania with filming police officers during a routine traffic stop and faces up to seven years in prison. Last year a North Middleton Twp. man was charged in a street racing case that involved a wiretapping charge. Police claimed the man ordered associates to tape police breaking up an illegal race after officers told him to turn off their cameras. Furthermore, last month a 48-year-old man from Dover, New Hampshire was arrested for "wiretapping" for allegedly recording police while they were investigating him for driving while intoxicated.

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The charge is invalid because it flouts privacy laws. Under the fourth amendment the expectation of privacy is not reasonable at such public places as automobile thoroughfares.

In other words filming on a public highway cannot be classed as an invasion of privacy.

Furthermore, the expectation of privacy is not reasonable if there exists a vantage point from which anyone, not just a police officer, can see or hear what is going on.

With the greater availability of camera technology there have been numerous incidents in recent years where the heavy handed police actions have importantly been caught on camera. Just yesterday we covered a story out of Hot Springs where a cop was caught on film choking out kids merely for skateboarding down the street. Without such evidence the cop might not have been placed on leave and an investigation may not have taken place.

While the Department of Homeland security is throwing money at cities and towns to put cameras everywhere to film the public, and police routinely film public gatherings, the right of citizens to film and photograph in the streets is under direct attack.

In addition, the Mayor of New York is Michael Bloomberg, who owns one of the biggest media outlets in the country. This move also therefore represents a direct conflict of interest on behalf of the mayor's office.

It seems that filming and photographing is now deemed to be a threat per se. Pick from any number of stories archived at www.freedomtophotograph.com for example.

In Seattle, police banned a photography student from a public park. He was taking photographs of a bridge for a homework assignment. The officers who ban him from the park do so without the knowledge of park officials and have no authority to do so.
In Texas a man was first threatened by neighbors and then reportedly accosted and sprayed with pepper spray by police. He was walking around his neighborhood, filming with his new video camera.
In New York, National Press Photographers Association members staged a protest in the New York subway system to bring attention to a proposed law to ban photography in the subway system.
In Philadelphia a magazine photographer was detained and questioned after a parade for taking architectural shots while waiting for a subway train.
In Harrisburg, PA a man was swarmed by 8 Police and accused of being a member of Al-Qaeda after shooting pictures of his new car under a bridge.
Such moves represent an attack on freedom of the press, liberty in general and the flow of information. They set a precedent for a national ruling to crack down on documentation of important events and incidents and give police the power to selectively enforce unconstitutional measures to restrict freedom.
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 1:48 pm | #

Ron Paul on the issues:
http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ro...TX/ Ron_Paul.htm
Scanner | 06.29.07 - 12:57 pm | #

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thanks, theres a lot there that really dont look so good.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 1:47 pm | #

Ron Paul on the issues:
http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ro...TX/ Ron_Paul.htm
Scanner | 06.29.07 - 12:57 pm | #

It is true why doesn't Ron Paul flush out these criminals, he's on the inside, he's in perfect position. But hey he has a huge pension waiting him, must not disrupt that. Who knows, maybe when he's not "selected", then he'll start some shit.
UNITEDWEREFALLING | 06.29.07 - 12:42 pm | #

my personal opinion, if Ron Paul were a man of action, being in there 10 terms he'd know the good from the bad.. and would take action. give a darn he's got "the good voting record" at this point in our nations history, he WONT make a real stand about anything and WONT TAKE ACTION if he DOES get lucky enough to be elected.. if the old man has ANY BALLS left, the time is NOW to purge these traitorous bastards from DC, anything less than this, he's just another politician.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 12:23 pm | #

response to Dr. Ron Pauls last E-mail alert:

immigration and naturalization: of course we already have good laws regarding this subject and they are being totally unenforced, by design from the top down for NAU and NWO crowd. this bill was shot down, geez, 4th time now ?! this illegal, this insistant = treason.

recent "proclaimations" by bush and cheney being above the law and unaccountable to anything is also treasonous. condoleeza rice too busy for a courtroom or hearing, treason.

alberto gonzales taking lessons from ollie "I dont recall" north, also treason.

all the above mentioned are guilty of treason, then theres 9-11-2001 being an inside job to push into an illegal war using Depleted Uranium munitions, scorched earth genocidal weapons totally against ANY international treaty.

DR. PAUL, you know these things yet you tiptoe around these realities out of fear or something. there isnt anyone high ranking in the military who can drag these bastards off in chains for treason?! 10 terms in congress and youre unsure of yourself ?!

oh gee, I'm so happy youre doing a separate PHOTO OP in IOWA..

the truth is, youre not about DOING ANYTHING REAL.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 12:12 pm | #

How can anyone, put in so much time into something, at SUCK at it so badly?
Rich | 06.29.07 - 5:34 am | #
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Have you seen "One Night in Paris"?

Sorry, but I can't resist....
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 11:28 am | #

Bolshevist Jew World Order..... all this suffering just over shitty little Israel which is never going to the the capital of the Earth, no matter what they try.
Rich | 06.29.07 - 11:21 am | #

Rich, you are back to recruiting I see, gave up on the dividing to do a little recruiting???

Oh well too bad your past is well documented on these threads.

BTW - when did Dick "The Death Camp King" Cheney become a Jew? Are you saying that he is now of the same religion as Jesus is? I find this hard to believe.

Please elaborate with references, logic, evidence.

Thanking you in advance for your continued effort in this patriotic duty
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 11:26 am | #

What I find interesting about Cheney, and this is true of a lot of other people, is his wildest dreams.

It begins with, what he actually does. Like: they torture people. Or 9-11 inside job. Things he really did. From there, he has things he tries. He is a new branch of government. He wants this or that.

But eventually you get deeper, to something no less real. IF, just IF in a Twilight Zone, Cheney had all the power, to do ANYTHING HE WANTS. If he could snap his fingers, and make any law he thinks up into reality... what would he do.

Clearly, no one, and certainly not Cheney gets to make their ever whim a reality. To judge but what he has done, and what he has tried to do, the actual depths of his desires have to be this - Bolshevist slaughterhouse of gulags and secret police.

Orwell in 1984 said many brilliant things. I think of how, language gets destroyed. The very words for certain things no longer exist, so no one can speak or think of them.

The Bolshevist-Zionist-Neocons make Propaganda. A lie. A useful political lie, but a lie. The lie is told as a truth in the media. So it is a lie, but you pretend it is true.

Then, like withthe real internet news of today, people expose the propaganda as a lie. It was a lie. But the Bolshevist liars call the truth a lie.

Is there a word for this 'criminal against the bolshevism'?

Cheney, in his desires, does want the person who tells the truth, arrested for lying by telling the truth, for their treason against him and patriotism to the country.

Words that don't exist to describe an every day situation.

Cheney wants to kill people, for being patriots. Patriotism = Treason. Truth = lies.

Bolshevist Jew World Order..... all this suffering just over shitty little Israel which is never going to the the capital of the Earth, no matter what they try.
Rich | 06.29.07 - 11:21 am | #

Kucinich is a traitor that should be castrated and then hung. The rest of his cronies should receive some good 'ole NWO torture before they die.

Death to all those bastards!
Reality Man | 06.29.07 - 11:20 am | #

And speaking of Impeachment Proceedings
-- (posted elsewhere in this forum) --

Congressman Kucinich (quote) // 13 Jun 07
***extract***
http://kucinich.house.gov/News/ D...ocumentID=67490
Since the introduction of the resolution the Vice President has continued along the path of conduct that led me to file the articles of Impeachment.

“The Vice President actively and systematically sought to deceive the citizens and Congress about an alleged threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. He has purposely manipulated the intelligence process to deceive us about the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda. And he openly lied to the America people and has publicly threatened aggression against Iran.

“Since the introduction, seven Members of Congress have signed on as co-sponsors of the resolution. They are Albert Wynn (D-MD), Barbara Lee (D-CA), Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), Yvette Clarke (D-NY), William Lacy Clay (D-MO), Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) and Maxine Waters (D-CA). Congresswomen Lee and Woolsey are co-chairs of the Progressive Caucus, the largest caucus in the Democratic Party.

“And with me now is the most recent cosponsor of H.Res. 333 – a woman who’s the driving force in organizing Democrats to try to come up with a strategy to try and take this country out of Iraq – Maxine Waters.

“Congresswoman Maxine Waters’ support on this issue is of national significance. She has demonstrated a capacity for courage and determination that everyone knows and everyone respects. And I’m proud to have her join this effort.

“I believe this is another milestone. With the support of the leaders of the Progressive Caucus and the leader of the Out of Iraq Caucus we will see more and more Members of Congress signing on in this effort to save our Constitution and protect the very values that bind us as a nation.”
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 10:40 am | #

Quotes and more, fom our decider and chief:
http://www.dubyaspeak.com/ freshd...reshdubya.phtml
Have a great day all!
Scanner | 06.29.07 - 10:20 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...0607Impeach.htm

yes to impeaching cheney, but this means bush, rice, gonzales, all of thier appointees and minions, and probably half of congress or more.
Sees Things | 06.29.07 - 9:41 am | #

It has been rumoured that George Bush is, in fact, the grandson of Aleister Crowley (the occultist and "Wickedest man in the world.", as one newspaper described him at the time). The rumour is based on circumstantial evidence concerning a relationship between Crowley and Bush's grandmother and also on photographic evidence of facial similarities between Crowley and Bush's mother, Barbara. I don't know if the rumour is true, and I am certainly not claiming that it is, but isn't it interesting that Crowley's core philosophy was "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."? Isn't that exactly the core philosophy of Bush and the people that he has gathered around him in his administration, who believe that they have a moral right to do anything they like, unrestrained by either Constitution, the law, or the democratic wishesl of the people?
Alouet | 06.29.07 - 9:24 am | #

The guy's a Dork.

Check this out as regards a blind reporter being told to remove his sunglasses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...related& search=
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 9:21 am | #

Video of a comment made to Dick Gregory by our pres regarding how he is looking today. What do ya 'think?

http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=0
Scanner | 06.29.07 - 9:09 am | #

9-11 TRUTHER -- Well said. Lot of truth in your words.

I want to take this one step further (back even before JFK) // of course with his murder our country did speed along even faster in a direction of corruption and greed -- no question about that.

But looking at Pearl Harbor and knowing today that Roosevelt KNEW in advance that the Japanese intended on attacking Pearl Harbor BUT allowed it to happen // Hey, something like that speaks of the same damn thing -- corrutpion and greed. Japan, Italy, Germany were all linked as one and the USA striking back at what Japan did to us (Pearl Harbor) sent us like a sling shot into WWII whereby fighting one we had to fight all three // and we did, and we prevailed. But only after dropping TWO atomic bombs (nuclear) on TWO otherwise innocent cities. The only country in the entire world to do something of such horrific nature. And as I have come to understand more of this corruption and greed -- Our President back then (Truman) KNEW that the war was coming to an end and that was before deciding to TEST a new bomb // and who better to test it on than an enemy? Terrible thing, for sure.

But you're right -- JFK's murder was a terrible thing as well. Especially when the table seems to be turning and we learn that the President that was to take his place (LBJ) may have very likely been involved in the shooting plot. Not Cuba as we were all told back then. Take a look at the Northwoods Operation (1962) and see how our government around that time BEFORE Kennedy was murdered wanted so badly to blame a reason for war on Cuba // all lies // false flag -- just like Pearl Harbor -- just like Iraq today.

We most likely could even step this further back in time. Corruption and greed. There's othing 'new' in a proposal for a New World Order.
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 8:31 am | #

I think they lied to our country quite well.
Joe in CA | 06.29.07 - 5:57 am
ALOT of the blame has to lie also with American sheeple WHO LET THEM DESTROY OUR PRECIOUS NATION AND FREEDOMS TOO! ALOT OF BLAME LIES WITH SHEEPLE TOO WHO ARE GULLIBLE, NAIVE AND PUT BUSH OR SOME OTHER POLITICIAN OF EITHER PARTY ABOVE OUR NATION OR FREEDOMS! Who has done next to nothing to save America as too busy with their lives or can't pick up phone for 5 minutes to call to help save America, much less riot in streets to save it! I know of several people who think their civic duty ends with voting! WRONG! Voting alone is NOT being a good American citizen! Defending our precious freedoms takes daily vigil! Especially from these treasonous, mass murdering, behind 9-11, Satan worshipping, bastards we have in our govt! Our nation was destroyed when they murdered JFK and did NOT demand a REAL investigation and did NOT demand NO 75 years til truth came out! People should have RIOTED BACK THEN! Ever since JFK's murder our nation has gone down hilll steadily ever since! EVERY WAR WAS STARTED OVER LIES,LIES AND MORE LIES! NAM, GULF WAR I, Iraq, Afghanistan and I pray NOT soon to be Iran and YET GULLIGLE, NAIVE STUPID SHEEPLE STILL DON'T RIOT OR STOP LETTING THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS ENLIST SO ELISTS CAN WAR PROFITEER OFF THEIR DEAD KIDS! Mind blowing how stupid, and gulllible American sheeple are most of time! And New World Order plays on it too!
9-11 truther | 06.29.07 - 8:14 am | #

Cavuto is such a lamebrain. I loved fr Paul's comment about in respsonse the taxes paying for the building he was standing in by reminded Cavuto that the building was put up before the income tax.
Apparently that statement was too much for Cavutos limited intellectual capacity to process.
Alex Paulsen | 06.29.07 - 8:06 am |
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Yeah, I also thought that was a great 'come back' at the loud mouth that kept pressing Dr. Paul // The guy was obviously intent on trying to put words in Dr. Paul's mouth but ended up (in my estimation) of biting his own tongue off. What a jerk he was.
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 8:13 am | #

I think they lied to our country quite well.
Joe in CA | 06.29.07 - 5:57 am
Well said and also f*cked it up more and totally destroyed it too! But then, we sheeple LET THEM DO IT TOO, without so much as mass riots in streets either or hanging any of them for TREASON, which not only does Bush and Cheney deserve but majority in Congress do too! Their all or most all part of NWO is WHY they are doing this to out and out PURPOSEDLY DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN!
9-11 truther | 06.29.07 - 8:05 am | #

Mind Control -- NWO //

Interesting video (9 min; 30 sec)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...related& search=
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 7:52 am | #

A New World Order (NWO) --

Nothing 'new' about it at all. The same old bullsh*t // power hungry greedy fools in charge taking unfair advantage of innocent people those same greedy bastards have been entrusted to serve.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dg9IC65MHEo
jbrid1138 | 06.29.07 - 7:31 am | #

THE NEWS MEDIA>

What news media? Factual and investigative jounalists have their hands tied. If this were not the case, we would not be in the middle of this abomination. In fact all of this could have been avoided, or at the very least the citizens of this nation would know the truth..
Politicians of all parties, for the most part have done nothing to stop these criminals. They have not upheld the constitution of this land. It appears they are lapping up the goodies, shuffling papers and making a fantastic show of the smallest detail to call attention off their true calling as elected officials of this nation and confronting this criminal regime..
Federal agencys, formed to protect the citizens of this nation, have betrayed it. High level employees and political electees.
Military High Echelon, have avoided and degraded their oath to uphold the consitution. Niether humanity nor America is in the forefront of their career. Or simply equate this with lack of moral courage. It must be that their masters have either persuaded them, or their own self interests are above the people and the country.
The population for the most part is in fear, 911 was a productive catalyst for this emotion. Not to forget that WMD's added to the fear. Homeland and FEMA didn not help eliminate their fear. They are buearacratic money makers for the masters.
The segment of people who I refer to as bubble people, are dillusional, and can not accept the fact we are ruled by a criminal element. Others unfortunelty do not give a twit as long as their lifestyle is and order.Add to these facts many people are not informed due to our news media,
Therfor are not involved nor care to research the truth. We must understand that there are people who's given day is but to provide food for their family and pay rent and taxes. Their initiative in life is consumed with the matter of survival on a monetary level.
End. were bankrupt & trillions in debt, war debt over 7oo billion, have killed 760,000 Iraq civilians since our illegal invasion.The consitution & Bill of Rights has been attacked.5000 troopers have ben killed. Domestic survelance was in effect for years, presidentialy ordered.
Enough, I just woke up and so I with hope you can understand the depth of my concern. Not so much for myself, but for our children. The innocent ones. Exactly what legacy, what future do we leave for them.
chris jones | 06.29.07 - 7:19 am | #

"The Worst President and Congress in U.S. History"

Oh come on. What are you talking about!

I think they lied to our country quite well.
Joe in CA | 06.29.07 - 5:57 am | #

I'm sure America will know what to do this time around.

It is like a deja vu all over agian.
Jeb Bush's links to the Florida 911 terrorists flight school and how he issued an executive order on September 7th 2001.

How Marvin Bush provided security for the world trade centers and his fathers connections to the Bin Laden family and it's links to terrorist organizations (after Sept 11) and US corporations that profit from these.

Not to mention Jeb's removal of thousands of voters from the rolls to give his brother the Whitehouse.
One story after the other.

The Bush family is a crime family like no other. They work with the highest levels of government and the lowest criminal factions around the world. They invaded Afghanistan to increase the opium production to 90% , because it was all but stopped by 2001 (opium is now a 500 billion dollar trade) But , America wants control of the world's resources and America always gets what it wants. And since oil is everything to the NWO plan is why the PNAC scheme is moving at a faster pace, simply because the devil knows it has but a short time. Right Condi? That is why the two former oil executives, who are now President and Vice Presiden were stuck in place along with other possibly mind controlled or just plain demonic ridden pyschos like Rumsfeld and Rove, to grab up the final few oil lands and make their masters happy.

By all accounts and the real connections to 911 , America should have invaded Saudi Land and Egypt. But Bush senior told the press to "back off" the Bin Laden family in November of 2001.
2003 "I'm not really worried about Osama right now." President Bush.

Like no other nation on this earth since the Roman empire, America's government is beyond corrupt and is now more than ready and threatens to to nuke any country standing in your way of total world conquest and that makes you the greatest threat to all life on this planet.

America needs to exercise the evil in it's land known as the neo-clut klan.
pariah gait | 06.29.07 - 5:45 am | #

Sane, you should turn your computer off for once, and have some 'you time'.

People working hard doing good works are NEVER ashamed. You are ashamed. Think on that. You are ashamed to be sane. Ashamed at how much you spam. Never heard of a good and just protestor before who was ashamed of protesting too much.

Your kind fail to grasp a LONG list of things. For one, there is NO ONE here to lie to. No one. This is not the mass jew media. People come here precisely because they take nothing at fase value.

Alex JOnes and Rense.com are listed by name by the Department of Justice, and various Neo-con agencies, as the #1 AGENTS OF DISINFORMATION, meaning, saying things the Neocons don't like said.

What does that mean? It means that OBVIOUSLY, they pay attention here, and MEGAPHONE the shit out of this. Of course, you need a suck head loser to devote their life to 'spamming a website' so it is not like they get any winners for the job.

People search through this shit like a journalist, seeking little clues, tidbits. Neocons hate whistle blowers. So they spy on this to catch any who might whistleblow here.

Do you really think, making up a new name, and lol, the REALLY BAD ACTING, of style change is going to fool people? duh, retard... totally new strangers don't suddenly show up at chat zones, and start flapping away like a chummy reg.

It is a hopeless cause. Your mass media techniques are doomed to failure in this arena. No one here believes shit by some simple virtue of being said.

TRUTH is a virus, something you catch. Bullshit, flings and sticks. So you FLING LIKE MAD, hoping anything sticks. A WHISPER of truth, infects all sorts of people simply because they know what they are looking at. So, your techniques for discouraging the general public are worthless here, THERE IS NO GENERAL PUBLIC TO DISCOURAGE, only conspiracy minded people, who DOUBLE CHECK EVERYTHING then triple check it.

How can anyone, put in so much time into something, at SUCK at it so badly?
Rich | 06.29.07 - 5:34 am | #

New names, Sane? Keep trying. You will pull it off someday. Not over me of course, but with someone, hopefully. *sigh*
Rich | 06.29.07 - 5:22 am | #

aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 3:24 am | #

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Eyes On The Ball!
Yes ! Good Posts!
doctor No NWO | 06.29.07 - 5:14 am | #

RCS | 06.28.07 - 11:17 pm Your WRONG about noone figuring it out about New World Order! It's simple! Pure evil Satan worshipping treasonous men and women in U.S. and worldwide worship Satan and ARE OUT TO DESTROY NOT ONLY AMERICA BUT WHOLE WORLD AND ENSLAVE WHOLE WORLD WHILE ALSO MASS MURDERING 80% OF WORLD'S POPULATION, FOR THE ELISTS, LIKE ROTHCHILD AND ROCKEFELLER'S OF WORLD FOR SATAN! While forcing the rest of us into slavery and forcing us into taking the "Mark of the Beast" eventually! WAKE UP TO THESE FACTS! And it's NOT just Alex who thinks so! DO RESEARCH! Google: New World Order quotes! You will see I am right!
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WELL SAID 9-11 truther ! & I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY!
The NEW WORLD ORDER is Made Up of a Bunch of So Called Evil Elite Satanic Fag's with Their Evil puppet Satanic Homosexual Servants & all worship Evil Satan/Lucifer The FAG!

Hey NWO, you all are a Bunch of EVIL puppet Fag's for Your False FAG God = Satan/Lucifer the Big FAG!
Do yourself a Favor & Kill your Selves now! You Evil NWO Fag's will Be Dead Before You Know it when we Get a Hold of You!
The Real God means Business this time! Not That Fag You Evil NWO Satanic Fag bastards Worship!
Why do you all Worship a Fake-God & a Homosexual Lying one at that Like Satan/ Lucifer the Fag?
Did I piss you Evil Bastards off yet? Well it's all Good truth!
I suppose you Evil Fags are Just pure Evil Sick Demented - Twisted Retarded Satanic Puppet Slave Fag's for Satan/Lucifer, Am I RIGHT?
& (Satan/ Lucifer the False God is truly a Big Fag!) & Promised You NWO puppets power & glory over the Earth,
NO WAY! It Will Not Happen Because You All believe A Lying Homosexual Fag (Want to Be) God = SATAN/LUCIFER the Lying Cheating Evil Homosexual!
So all you NWO Evil puppet Fag's that Serve as NWO Slave's Keep Gargling each others Mayonnaise, that's All the Reward you all will Get for Following A Lying Cheating Weak Fag Like Your evil False God Satan/Lucifer, It's The Truth!
What do you all do to each other You Evil Satanic Puppet Fag's at those So called Secret Meetings? = Piss & shit In a Big bowl Then Dip Crackers & Eat it! you Evil Fag's wont think twice about FUCKING EACH OTHER OVER for a higher position of authority in Your Evil Way of Life, & Knife Each other In the Back! There is No Love Lose Between You Evil Satanic Homosexual bastards, This Is Why the NWO is already doomed & You Evil Bastards have lost!
No You Can't beat the Real Thing & The Real God is Coming For You!
One More thing - DIE! you Evil Bastards DIE!
DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER!
doctor No NWO | 06.29.07 - 4:54 am | #

Cheney-Bush Planning
For New 911
By Ted Lang
Exclusive to Rense.com
6-28-7

If there are any doubts about the truth and accuracy of the allegation that the Cheney-Bush regime did 9/11, Dr. David Ray Griffin dispels each and every one of them in his latest book on the subject, Debunking 9/11 Debunking. He again emphasizes the stand-down order angrily reiterated by Cheney as overheard and observed by Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta, and to which the latter offered testimony to that fact during the 9/11 Commission hearings. The 9/11 Commission Report falsified the time of Cheney's presence in the bunker-command center, changing the time as occurring after 10:00 a.m. when in fact Cheney was reported by several as being in the bunker earlier at 9:25 a.m.

Griffin's book also brings General Richard Meyers and Donald Rumsfeld into the deadly cabal that day proving their direct involvement via the emergency teleconference they'd like to pretend they weren't part of, also at a much earlier time than the regime would have US believe. Griffin discusses how "journalist" Michael Bronner, when writing a propaganda piece for Vanity Fair, cleverly time-confused these events by relying upon NORAD tapes selectively given to him for his review by the Cheney-Bush perfumed princes of the military. Griffin makes an excellent case debunking the tapes by pointing out how long Cheney-Bush had them thereby facilitating their tampering, and goes on to prove how the timelines on those tapes conflict with the testimony given by the military during the 9/11 Commission hearings.

Even according to these tapes, Cheney wasn't in the bunker until sometime after 10:00 a.m. on the morning of 9/11. But as mentioned, actual eyewitnesses debunk both the 9/11 Commission Report AND the NORAD tapes. Griffin basically asks: Were the tapes wrong, or was the testimony wrong? Actually, the obvious answer is that either members of the military were lying at the time of their testimony, or the tapes were doctored or selectively edited, or both. Griffin proves that both the Bronner-Vanity Fair NORAD tapes and the 9/11 Commission Report conflict materially with the facts.

Cheney-Bush did 9/11 all right, and they probably have already finished plans for the next domestic terrorist event. But where's the proof you might be prompted to ask. The proof is in their very behavior, which increasingly, and on a daily basis, demonstrates their hatred and contempt for America, its people, and its Constitution. They are becoming braver and more arrogant by the day. They know Congress will not act, and part of the reason is probably that Congress knows already that another 9/11 has been planned and is on the way, and that if they attack Cheney-Bush, it is they, Congress, who will be blamed for having invited the attack by evidencing weakness on the Global War on Terror. GWOT is merely a synonym for the aggressive movement towards a global New World Order. And Cheney-Bush have AIPAC on their side and also ready to strike Congress if need be!

The most obvious anomaly of the Cheney-Bush criminal regime is the reverse order of its hierarchy: Cheney is America's real dictator, and Bush his chimpanzee-monkey boy protégé and the regime's White House Moron heat sink. Complaints of Cheney's meddling in military and foreign policy arrangements between Britain and the United States give credence to Cheney's dominating role. And a video of a Bush photo-video op with the press included a scene showing Cheney, likened to a stalking monster about to pounce if needed, and watching Bush from the rear of the room and behind the cameras. He hovered as if he knew Bush needed watching. And the present Cheney flap with the National Archives over the safeguarding of classified national security documentation led Cheney to assert that NO ONE has "oversight" over his activities. Then, following Cheney's absurd assertion, the chimpanzee-monkey boy chimed in: "Me too!" Neither is answerable to the "goddamned piece of paper," the people of America, or the spineless cowards in Congress.

As has been so often articulated in this space, 9/11 is the very source of this criminal administration's power; debunk their officially-stated conspiracy theory, as Dr. Griffin has done repeatedly, and both their source of unlimited power and their credibility will be forever destroyed. As reported by Steve Watson on Prisonplanet.com in an article posted June 25th entitled "Cheney and Bush Declare Autonomous Dictatorial Powers Exempt themselves from executive branch," Watson writes: "The Vice President and the President have casually declared their offices to be independent of the executive branch and completely autonomous, with Dick Cheney also attempting to abolish agencies his office is supposed to be accountable to." Said another way, Cheney-Bush have abolished the executive branch and replaced it with the Office of Dictator.

Watson references events relative to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and quotes from the Committee's report: "Vice President Cheney exempted his office from the presidential order that establishes government-wide procedures for safeguarding classified national security information. The Vice President asserts that his office is not an 'entity within the executive branch.' As described in a letter from Chairman Waxman to the Vice President, the National Archives protested the Vice President's position in letters written in June 2006 and August 2006. When these letters were ignored, the National Archives wrote to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in January 2007 to seek a resolution of the impasse. The Vice President's staff responded by seeking to abolish the agency within the Archives that is responsible for implementing the President's executive order. In his letter to the Vice President, Chairman Waxman writes: 'I question both the legality and wisdom of your actions. ... [I]t would appear particularly irresponsible to give an office with your history of security breaches an exemption from the safeguards that apply to all other executive branch officials.'"

What is wrong with Congress? Isn't it clear that Cheney runs the country? Where in the Constitution does Cheney get this authority? Certainly he is correct in asserting his only functional responsibility is that of President of the Senate. And he can function in an executive role only when needed to break a tie, which can happen given the possibility of an impasse resultant of an even divide considering two senators per state. But as Cheney claims this constitutional void as a defense for his being immune from the executive branch, he enjoys ruling over this nation based on precisely this very same constitutional void. In other words, there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS for his being the undesignated yet actual ruler of police state America! And it is precisely this lack of constitutional sanction that defeats Congressman Dennis Kucinich's motion for Cheney's impeachment.

Lack of constitutionally defined duties, however, is NO LONGER a viable argument for Cheney. He just abdicated executive branch accountability, while proving true, at the same time, the Alexander Haig assertion: HE IS INDEED IN CHARGE! And don't bother telling me that all of Washington DC doesn't know this! Watson continues citing excerpts from the mass media proving that even they are now beginning to see the dangers of the Cheney-Bush police state. Watson cites articles from not only the Washington Post, but also from the LA Times and theBoston Globe.

And NBC News chimed in as well, and their perspective was also carried by Prisonplanet .com quoting from a piece: "NBC News: Has the vice president gone too far?" The article by David Edwards and Muriel Kane, also posted June 25th, offers: "NBC called Cheney 'a master of stealth, even inside the White House,' describing how he put through HIS policy of holding detainees indefinitely without charges by handing his proposal to the president without the formal staff review. [Emphasis added.] NBC also noted that 'Cheney's influence turns out to be surprisingly wide-ranging,' encompassing everything from cutting the capital gains tax to ending the ban on snowmobiles in national parks."

We finally have nationally recognized news sources reporting that Cheney is 1) in charge of both domestic and foreign policy [national security information] and 2) is initiating as well domestic policy TOTALLY OUTSIDE HIS CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY! How did this come to be? Who cares?! It proves that Cheney is acting in not only an executive role from the White House, but doing so illegally and with the full cooperation of Bush and the Democratic Congress. Cheney, as chief executive, and Bush as deputy, are violations of all constitutional laws separating and specifically defining American governmental powers.

Impeaching at least one of these two co-conspirators was at one time necessary to defeat the neoconservative lunatic plan to launch World War III by nuking Iran to create the chaos needed for the global New World Order government. Now, impeaching them both is IMMEDIATELY necessary to prevent another 9/11! Considering Cheney-Bush insults directed at Congress framed in a you-can't-touch-us attitude, we are giving dangerous signals to this deadly criminal regime which they now obviously view as a green light for yet another 9/11 terrorist act.

As Watson observes later on in his commentary, "Last month it was also reported that a high-level group of government and military officials has been quietly preparing an emergency survival program named 'The Day After,' which would effectively end civil liberties and implement a system of martial law in the event of a catastrophic attack on a U.S. city." Considering the Cheney-Bush track record and the revelations concerning 9/11 documented by
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 3:24 am | #

Everybody Knows The Clock
Is Ticking Yet Nobody
Knows What Time It Is
Jim Kirwan
6-28-7

For most of the last ten days the news from Washington has been punctuated by the bizarre antics of Dick Cheney the man that puts the 'Vice' in the USpresidency. History gave us all a lesson during the Nixon years and Watergate, when the line between the laws and those who either make or enforce those laws was re-emphasized. No one then was allowed to place themselves above or beyond the law. That clock continues to tick: but apparently a lot of people have forgotten that presidents are not gods (or dictators), and that no president is or can ever be, allowed to remain above the laws of this nation that they supposedly lead.

Cheney and his apologists have been making a lot of noise about 'facts not in evidence,' concerning his vices within his role is this government. The claims being made by both Cheney and his invisible staff stretch credulity beyond the breaking point. He is currently claiming that he has a legislative role, because of his capacity as the tie-breaking vote in the Senate. According to the Constitution that does not make the-Vice a part of the legislative branch of government, anymore than it allows him to act as the White House Chief of Staff, without that title being formally conferred.

As for all of Cheney's "other functions" that have been 'given' to him by what has become an "absent without leave president" who is unwilling or unable to do those jobs that are his by virtue of his office. These additional duties should have been challenged at every turn by oversight committees of the Congress-but they gave themselves a semi-permanent vacation after they gave Cheney-Bush that "License to Kill" that enabled the unchecked Invasion of Iraq. Consequently not only has the 'Decider' been allowed to go berserk, but apparently Cheney has been acting for Bush in so many different "official" capacities that no one can tell where one man leaves off and the other begins. (1)

On first glace this seems complex-but in reality if one returns to the basics, there can be no confusion. There is only one president of the United States at a time. The Vice-president is nothing but an empty suit in waiting whose only other 'official' task is to break tie votes in the Senate. Every other job that is given to The-Vice should be delegated on the record and be transparent enough that the public is aware of the duty thus delegated by the president and approved by the congress!

However when all of this is done in secret, even from the other cabinet officers within the government: then questions arise. But no one officially questioned this steady stream of new and dubious 'responsibilities' that The-Vice has given to himself. (2)

The Constitution was written, in part, to give some order to the officers and responsibilities within the government: its definitions and responsibilities cannot be changed without written laws to the contrary. Yet both Cheney and Bush have placed themselves above and beyond the laws that govern this Republic: and for that just like Nixon, these two Outlaws must be held accountable. Nixon was impeached then allowed to resign because too many others in congress would have gone down with him, if his case had been tried before the Senate. Perhaps the same is true today-maybe that's why "Impeachment is off the table!" according to Nancy Pelosi?

One thing is extremely clear: The current confusion over who is actually pulling the strings of this government needs to be sorted out on the record and in public. On Democracy Now today:

"White House Subpoenaed for Domestic Spying Docs

The Senate Judiciary Committee has issued subpoenas ordering the Bush administration to turn over key documents on the National Security Agency program of spying on Americans without court warrants. On Wednesday, subpoenas were delivered to the offices of President Bush, Vice President Cheney, the national security adviser and the Justice Department. The Judiciary Committee is seeking internal discussions on the program's legality and the text of agreements with telecommunications companies that have aided the spying.

Senate Judiciary Chair Patrick Leahy: "We've had a consistent pattern of evasion and misdirection. In some ways it would have been better if they just ignored it. Instead they've evaded and they've tried misdirection. It's unacceptable. It is stonewalling of the worse kind and I think the reaction is spreading to both parties in the senate."

The subpoenas could set off a new legal showdown with the White House, which has until July Eighteenth to comply."

"Roll Call reports today that President Bush has requested $4.75 million in fiscal 2008 to fund the Vice President's operations (parts of which are housed, notably, in the Executive Office Building.)" $4.75 million for a government position that the constitution gives virtually no complex duties to, regardless of this so-called state of war. . . In this light Mary Lyon asks us all: "Are you Okay with this?" (3)

It's our money that is being used; our people that are wearing the uniforms that are prosecuting the wars of occupation, and our reputation that is being shredded in service to completely unworkable policies the world over. Millions of people have died; millions more have been displaced or mutilated in these unilateral military actions that were created from nothing more than a huge pack of deliberate and deceptive lies. Like it or not the facts on the ground belong to us - just as according to Bush himself: 'He owns the Iraq War.'

It's way past time for both Cheney & Bush to begin to pay for their actions, in public, and on the record. These two must answer those subpoenas and appear before the congress-and the public needs to keep the heat on the White House-to do just that!
aqua teen hunger force | 06.29.07 - 3:21 am | #

The real problem is the need for money thats causing all this hate on both sides of this culture war and the land we call america was theirs to begin with the people today CAN'T help that their ancestors didn't have the firepower to hold on to what was theirs so they run over because AMERICA made Mexico the shitty country that it is to day with the anti-freedom laws that we have about drugs and plants; the drug war we inflected on them has made them come over here this government has made them poor. To solve all this bullshit is to abolish all anti-freedom laws, boarders, and money to evolve in to one society that is equal and rich with peace of mind. anything else like enforcing the current laws or making new ones will not work ever.
andy self | 06.29.07 - 2:47 am | #

You are a coward and traitor.
MY ancestors conquered this land in a war against Mexico, and in case your dumass has forgotten, TO THE VICTOR GOES THE SPOILS,
Its because of historically ignorant asses like you that the La Raza gets most of the support for their ILLEGAL INVASION of soveirn U.S. territory!
WHITE-CHRISTIAN -anti-Semite | 06.29.07 - 2:57 am | #

The real problem is the need for money thats causing all this hate on both sides of this culture war and the land we call america was theirs to begin with the people today can help that their ancestors didn't have the firepower to hold on to what was theirs so they run over because AMERICA made Mexico the shitty country that it is to day with the anti-freedom laws that we have about drugs and plants; the drug war we inflected on them has made them come over here this government has made them poor. To solve all this bullshit is to abolish all anti-freedom laws, boarders, and money to evolve in to one society that is equal and rich with peace of mind. anything else like enforcing the current laws or making new ones will not work ever.
andy self | 06.29.07 - 2:45 am | #

The world, people, do not work that way. I think of Dr Campbell and his comparative mythology studies. What we are as human beings, is a timeless thing. Our story, plays out over and over because our natures do not really change over the centuries.

The NORMAL person. The AVERAGE person. Just think about those words. Like the word exceptional. Exceptionally smart, or exceptionally wise. Exceptional people TEACH normal people. Normal people hear EXCEPTIONAL things all day long. And they by their nature, feel like they are those things too, but because they are lazy or by choice, dont act exceptional as they are.

In fact, normal people are not exceptional.

Example: You are driving your car and someone cuts you off. People tend to think, 'That person was mean to me.' In fact, that person functions are far too low a level, to know you even existed. Never saw you. Never crossed their minds you exist at all, much less what you would like or what would make you angry.

The 'evil' people are the same. The are simple people, with simple minds. They act out of greed and stupidity.

What is true, is back to the word exceptional. I know all these things. But, my enlightenment has attached my life to good things. Other people who 'know' ARE evil. What makes them evil, MAKES THEM EVIL, is the KNOWING, and then exploiting that knowing.

Do they USE the stupid greedy people? OH YES.

A good test on all this is the propaganda. On one hand, you have explorers into this filth, who think, 'they all KNOW it was an inside job'.. or 'they all know they are betraying the country'.

I doubt that very much. They are far too stupid to know, far to greedy to bother to give a flying shit. What the immigration bill will or will not do, never even CROSSED THE MINDS of most of them.

They great apparatus of money and influence knocked on their door, told them how they were voting, they voted that way, then went back to molesting their interns.

Satanism? Child sex? Drugs? Drinking? Oh Yes! The stuff of the little mind, the opiates of the foolish, distractions fed to them by their diabolical masters.

Part of 'social systems' a HUGE part, is making sure exceptional people NEVER GET IN THE FRONT DOOR. The little minded peons marching around congress and Washington, do not think like you.

It is flattery to say, 'they thought, they decided, they betrayed.' Exceptional people do those things.

They are not pretending to be stupid. They are the real thing.
Rich | 06.29.07 - 2:43 am | #

"Modest" increase in phone calls to Senate MY ASS! They were SWAMPED with people calling against the horrorible, treasonous amnesty bill! "MODEST" MY ASS! So GET MORE PHONE LINES!
9-11 truther | 06.29.07 - 2:19 am | #

Hmm, Sane DOES NOT EVEN BOTHER TO DENY, that he has no job, he has no family. The time indexes on his endless spam prove that. He does NOTHING ELSE, but spam here, all hours of day and night, 7 days a week......

and... he is not a disinfo spammer... with a background like his, how can he not be trusted...

haha
Rich | 06.29.07 - 1:06 am | #

Still here, Sane? Well, you are never not here. Do you get paid for your disinformation? You do it out of loyalty?

How many posts you make a day, Sane?
NO NEED TO ASK, why you are TOO ASHAMED to answer that question. Take that for granted.

"My life of spamming Alex Jones with lies," screenplay by Sane.

I guess you cant say how many posts you make a day, since you think it is a secret you use all those OTHER NAMES to post too.

How many posts you spam daily? 2,500?
Rich | 06.29.07 - 1:04 am | #

Did you know this is Greenspan's wife?
Andrea Mitchell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ And...Andrea_Mitchell
Mitchell graduated with a B.A. in English literature from the University of Pennsylvania in 1967, where she served as News Director of student radio station WXPN. She joined Philadelphia NBC affiliate KYW radio and TV as a reporter that same year.

After several years at KYW, she moved to CBS affiliate WTOP in Washington, DC in 1976. Two years later, Mitchell moved to NBC's network news operation, where she served as a general correspondent. In 1979, she was named NBC News’ Energy correspondent and reported on the late 1970s energy crisis and the Three Mile Island nuclear accident. Mitchell also covered the White House from 1981 until becoming Chief Congressional Correspondent in 1988.

She has been the Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent for NBC News since November 1994. Previously, she had served as Chief White House Correspondent (1993-1994) and Chief Congressional Correspondent (1988-1992) for NBC News.

Mitchell, who is jewish, married her second husband, Alan Greenspan, formerly the Federal Reserve Chairman, in 1997. Her husband, first appointed to the position in August 1987 by President Reagan, retired in 2006. Previously, she was married to Gil Jackson; a marriage that ended in divorce in the mid 1970s.
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 12:37 am | #

http://www.worldreports.org/ news...span_jailed_as_

Has anyone seen this, it's saying Alan Greenspan has been Jailed, check it out, let me know, cos it seems a bit unreal at the mo.
cop-KILLA | 06.28.07 - 10:39 pm | #
yeap, about time | 06.29.07 - 12:30 am | #

tired, any input????
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 12:33 am | #

LOL, every time I come back to this place I realize what a bunch of brainless fucktards you all really are.

LMFAO

This is so funny
I See Stupid People | 06.29.07 - 12:30 am | #

US detains farmed Chinese seafood
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ US_...C_06282007.html
Chemicals found in fish, shrimp, eel spark superbug scare among Feds.

Top US judge pushes secret terror trials
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....om% 3Dpublic_rss
Judge pushes secret trials, Muslim surveillance, and bending Constitution.

DA refuses 'Catch a Predator' cases
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....2Fid% 2F19486893
Texas DA says Dateline pedophile sting TV show 'amateur,' tainted charges.

White House seals trade deals as clock ticks on fast-track
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ Whi...l_06282007.html
President George W. Bush's administration stepped up efforts Thursday to hammer down a series of bilateral free-trade agreements under a special negotiating authority that opposition Democrats plan to let expire.
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 12:17 am | #

US Ignites Nuke Race
http://freemarketnews.com/WorldN...s.asp? nid=44429
The only deterrent for some countries from being next on "Washington's hit list" is to have nuclear weapons themselves, a new policy report concludes. The report, released this week by the Independent Institute...

Largest US Prison Inmate Increase Since 2000
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...in2987952.shtml
Prisons and jails added more than 42,000 inmates last year alone, the largest increase since 2000. The total number of people incarcerated by federal or state authorities in the year ending June 30, 2006, was roughly 1.6 million.

Destroyer turned to peices by torpedo
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/54...d_by_a_torpedo/
A cool video made by the military about the effect of a torpedo on an American destroyer. The torpedo doesn't actually hit the destroyer, but it detonates a few meters under it, causing a big void. When water surges to replace that void, the force it creates, splits the destroyer in half. A really cool and amazing video

Rich Brit who lives in a 14th-century castle lives on state benefits!
http://www.swns.com/photoshoot.p...hoot.php? ID=412
A toff who lives in an historic stately home says he is so poor - he is claiming state BENEFIT. Posh Edward Simpson, 32, runs Burton Court, a Grade II-listed 14th-century manor house complete with 15 bedrooms and 19 acres

Swarms of ATF agents sent to eat out firearms dealers' substance
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56389
Firearms dealers are having their licenses revoked for inconsequential procedures violations and clerical errors by 5th-column badge-heavy judge/jury/executioner unelected bureaucrats. Legitimate sources for firearms are being driven out of business. Dealers are appealing to the people and to elected officials for justice.

Fox News is Disgusting
http://www.banapana.com/politics...s-is- disgusting
Fox News should have to apologize for the way they treated the Honorable Ron Paul.

Bearded dragon with two heads born in California [I do not fucking like two headed dragons!!!]
http://www.eitb24.com/new/en/B24...-heads-born-in/
Barbara Witte who breeds bearded dragons in her home in Fresno, says she has never seen a two-headed baby bearded dragon till that moment. It was born a week ago, and now each head has been named.
sane | Homepage | 06.29.07 - 12:11 am | #

Media Matters:AP uncritically reported reasons for excluding Ron Paul
http://mediamatters.org/items/20...ms/ 200706280007
The Associated Press uncritically reported that Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul was excluded from the Iowa presidential forum because, according to one of the groups sponsoring the event, Paul "didn't meet the criteria the groups drew up,"....
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Guys, everyone in media trusts media matters for their unbiased reporting and in depth analysis of facts.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:57 pm | #

Tired, no offense but I just got done with this link and it looks like a mirror of dockers rhetoric:
http://100777.com/plan
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:35 pm | #

Ok i just checked and that one was mislabeled and subsequntly placed into the wrong data base. it was supposed to be in the propoganda base to be cross referenced with things that show it to be propoganda. But Usually the 100777 sites have better things on them than that, so i can only guess that they too had it mislabeled as well
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 11:38 pm | #

No big deal, I read the hell out of that stuff to see where reality shifts to deception. It is very useful foridentifying similar arguments against all races/religions/nationalities. It is usually identical tactics depending on who is the "target of the day."
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:52 pm | #

Tired, no offense but I just got done with this link and it looks like a mirror of dockers rhetoric:
http://100777.com/plan
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:35 pm | #

100777 usually puts better stuff on their sites, i guess i just didn't catch it, Or it was mislabled in the data base. I have about 20 others that assist me to find all the stuff for our databases, so it is going to happen occasionally.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 11:32 pm | #

Anyone who denies 911 as an inside job is either brainless or heartless. I'm glad I don't clutch life as a person that is afraid to go to hell where they are all going. Really owning the world is for some kind of idiot. It won't work. 50 people want one seat.
Sony | 06.28.07 - 11:28 pm | #

Bush called out for his earmarks
http://thehill.com/leading-the-n...2007-06- 28.html
Democratic and Republican appropriators are accusing Bush of urging Congress to pack spending bills with pet projects despite his high-profile crackdown on earmarks this year. A House Appropriations Committee report accompanying legislation funding the Department of the Interior shows that Bush requested 93 of the 321 earmarks in the bill.

Scientists Racing to Harvest Antimatter Atoms
http://news.softpedia.com/news/S...oms- 58088.shtml
So it's by far not enough to use as a fuel for the propulsion of starships, like those in seen in Star Trek, where the energy of matter-antimatter annihilation is harnessed to create a warp bubble, or in weapons applications like the photon torpedoes.

The US Attorney Firings Expose a Deeper Plot
http://gdaeman.blogspot.com/2007...eeper- plot.html
Just one aspect of the Bush administration's criminal activity.

U.N. uselessness revealed, again - by Hal Lindsey
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56329
In this very sad commentary about the U.N., Hal Lindsey tells us how the U.N. would not label the murder of hundreds of thousands of people, mostly Christians, as genocide. And in fact, the Secretary-General explained that all the death and mayhem in Darfur is due to global warming, and of course, that is America's fault, so some people would say.

Inevitable: Democrats Demanding The US Pull Out Of Afghanistan Too
http://thehill.com/leading-the-n...2007-06- 26.html
When they won control of Congress in November, Democrats pressed their case to withdraw troops from Iraq and refocus on Afghanistan, but some are growing impatient with U.S. operations in Afghanistan as well.

Hitler in Reverse - Occupation 101
http://yannone.blogspot.com/2007...pation- 101.html
The People America rescued from Hitler's death camps have since turned on humanity... This is the same America-supported Israel that continues a brutal ethnic cleansing campaign in Palestine to this very minute.

Alaska scientist uses isotopes to trace marijuana
http://www.alaskareport.com/sf11068.htm
Police officers don't often get a straight story when they ask a driver where he got that bag of marijuana under his car seat. In the near future, they might be able to ask the marijuana itself.

Fox News and Venezuela: How the Network Has Misinformed Its Viewers
http://counterpunch.org/ liebertz...tz06212007.html
Perhaps ironically FOX News should be applauded for giving so much coverage to Venezuela - not necessarily a "popular" story. But unfortunately the highest-rated network so thoroughly butchered the truth, that it is not surprising that many Chavez supporters are becoming conspiracy theorists vis-à-vis the US media.

"Property Six" music video release and Ron Paul performance in Las Vegas
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/F...m? InfoNo=020580
Rap-n-Roll band "Property Six" revs up their Revolution with a new music video release (link), and will be in Las Vegas for the other Revolution to entertain the crowd at Ron Paul's visit in July. Paul-a-Polooza indeed.

15 Reasons Why Rudy Giuliani Sucks
http://www.who-sucks.com/people/...-giuliani- sucks
A list of reasons why 2008 presidential hopeful mayor Rudy Giuliani is not a great guy.

Brownback Scrubs Website of Earlier Immigration Vote
http://www.iowaindependent.com/s....do? diaryId=444
Senator Sam Brownback - a contender for president - has removed a press release from his website in which he explained why he voted for cloture on the Senate's massive illegal immigration amnesty bill. Down the memory hole!

Chris Dodds Corrupt Background
http:// thethoughtsontheworld.blo...background.html
Click to read more.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:23 pm | #

Jews are smart but they sure are stupid. Maybe they are just greedy but now we know who runs the show. How come they don't google 'ringworm children'?
Sony | 06.28.07 - 11:17 pm | #

DEATH TO THE NWO!
& THAT DAY IS COMING FOR YOU EVIL NWO BASTARDS VERY SOON!
doctor No NWO

Such a generic term "It's the NEW WORLD ORDER" It's the perfect trap, it will always be this big monster that nobody will ever figure out.

Genius, Alex Jones, just genius

ILLUMINATI, NEW WORLD ORDER, GERMANIC DEATH CULTS, LUCIFERIANS

LOL!!
RCS | 06.28.07 - 11:17 pm | #

Rothdchilds, Morgans and Rockefellers make Hiltler look like a bad boy! Illuminati. I used to think it was crazy but now that I know NOTHING mainstream says is true!
Sony | 06.28.07 - 11:12 pm | #

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name.
WHITE-CHRISTIAN -anti-Semite | 06.28.07 - 11:12 pm | #

The Smyrna document prophesizes the risen Antichrist, and foretells the treachery of the Jews at the time of his coming, and exhorts the faithful to steadfastness unto death in battle. The second bit is an affirmation from a psychopath that he is armed and in the mood to fulfill the part that says, "...whoever killeth you thinks he does a service to God."
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:03 pm | #

awwwww freddy, why did you leave out the paret about them being "fake" jews? Why did you leave out this piece of info????

Is it because you want to use the fake jews as an excuse to take ALL the Jews o Big Bick Cheney's Death Camps sponsored by GE and Halliburton???
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:08 pm | #

Video the authorities like police and the abuse they do

Bring the faces of evil to the people's attention show there abuse publically then the rats will start running like cock roaches for they know they are serving evil and are abusing there powers as law inforcement officers. Unforgivable behaviours must never be tolerated.

with all the video cameras out there they cannot keep there abuse silent. The guilty ones will be shown publically and they better find deep rat holes to hide for the innocent good people have enough of big brother's abuse.

Time big brother gets what he deserves.
They like to play tough well we will video tape there behaviours and those who abuse the powers that are trustly given to them will have to answer the abuse they do.

Good people of America united we will defeat these evil bumbs, that hide behind a badge to abuse good people. Like that police with the skateboard guy, POWER TRIPS

We are lucky many police are not evil and use there commun sence, lets hope they can stand up to the evil one's that are serving the Neo Cons.

Peace to all nice people
sam | 06.28.07 - 11:07 pm | #

so what do ya think??
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:34 pm | #

Basic stuff, what of it?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:06 pm | #

And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, ...and the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. ...Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

I tend toward the following: "...when the time is right for a sword, then I have one." ...He said. "...He that lives by the sword, shall by the sword perish!" ...So what do ya think. Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:34 pm | #

The Smyrna document prophesizes the risen Antichrist, and foretells the treachery of the Jews at the time of his coming, and exhorts the faithful to steadfastness unto death in battle. The second bit is an affirmation from a psychopath that he is armed and in the mood to fulfill the part that says, "...whoever killeth you thinks he does a service to God."
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:03 pm | #

And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet [are] like fine brass;
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last [to be] more than the first.
Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
But that which ye have [already] hold fast till I come.
And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
And I will give him the morning star.

What is this messege??
GAK,sane,anyone
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:59 pm | #

DEE-DEE-DEE

I work for the NWO, I am Gay and take it in the Arse.
You can beat me before you fuck me if you like.
I like to ware womens clothes, and I will suck anyones cock.
I'm frightend of the NWO anddecided to join up, and fight everyone else. I like the boys who work at the docks best.
Freddy Fat | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:09 pm | #
AND WHATS YOUR POINT?
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:51 pm | #

US vaccine case may have big implications

http://www.abc.net.au/news/audio.../12/ 1949438.htm

Transcript
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content...07/ s1949438.htm

Good to see the Australian People Are getting the Message on the Dangers of these NWO made Vaccines, Yes! Spread the Word!

News from the past > MMR legal bid blocked
& here we Have some NWO BBC bullshit spin from the past in Oct /2003, you can see how these Evil bastards work to misinform the Population!
MMR jab is highly controversial
Campaigners have had to shelve plans for legal action over the controversial measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/healt...lth/ 3155538.stm

Hey NWO, We will Not Let it Rest UNTILL JUSTICE WILL BE DONE & YOU & YOUR NWO DRUG COMPANIES ARE IN PRISION FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO THE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD!
YOU HAVE COMITTED CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY & KNOWINGLY DESTROYED THE LIVES OF CHILDREN WORLD WIDE!
YOU WILL ALL BE JAILED FOR YOU CRIMES & IF IT WAS UP TO ME TO DECIDE , I WOULD GIVE YOU NWO EVIL BASTARDS A LEATHAL INJECTION OF DEATH FOR YOUR EVIL CRIMES!
NO TRIAL FOR THE NWO, ONLY DEATH FOR YOU EVIL BASTARDS!

DEATH TO THE NWO!
& THAT DAY IS COMING FOR YOU EVIL NWO BASTARDS VERY SOON!
doctor No NWO | 06.28.07 - 10:46 pm | #

I am the power. ( Late night lunacy.)
You will pay what is taxed of you, this will be enforced by my tireless agents of the IRS.
You will send your children to war for we offer free of charge -bottom feeders, pissants and peons a chance of acquiring a future should they live.
You will not question our motives, as you are well aware we are your govenment elected officials and have your interest at heart. We are true and faithfull to our country and its people.
You will read our literature and formulate your beleifs as we will guide you.
You will cheer for us, and you will rally for this country with flag in hand.
Our code of secrecy is well protected by our NSA and of course many other agencys, please dont strain your thought process and attempt to investigate our various objectives , not only would it disorganize your thought process, but it may effect you mentaly and we would be burdened to clarify and clear your mind.
If in fact our camps and medical personell can not enlighten you, unfortunelty you will be considered a domestic terrorist, in that case you will be considered a enemy of the state, no habeus corpos would apply. This would mean in fact you are beyond our help.
Our enlightened government has eliminated millions of civilians who may have one day been your enemy, there is no need to thank us, we did this for you our citizens.
You will be pleased to know that we are capable of destroying this eath well over 3 times,which of course kepps our enemies at bay, that our nuclear and chemical arsenal is the largets globaly.
That are weaponry is high tech, the most expensive globably. Almost Godlike.
Homeland security will protect you and yours, we will weed out tthe rabble rousers and disidents, those who speak against this great country of ours, our county of freedom and justice. Our freinds and allies, Blackwater Security personell will be attached to Homeland Security, and other federal agencies to insure our freedoms.
It is your sacred and required duty to expose any citizen who may speak against us, we must be united for the good of our land and its people.
Please know, If your sons or daughters die in our wars of liberation, be proud, hang high your flag for all to see your sacrifice for your great nation. Do not concern yourselfs with the cost of burial , our great Governmet provides for this with dignity and honors given for the sacrifice.
Continue to honor your Commander and Chief, for he sacrifices his days and his nights in your behalf, to keep your freedoms intact.
We will continue survelance of domestic air and line communications traffic, to insure your safety.
Terrorists will infitrate our land, however we our prepared . Our alert codes will keep the public posted continualy, in the event of any threat, be it chemical, nuclear, or any domestic resistance to our nation we will be alerted to it and quickly overcome such terorist inhabitants of our great land. remember God Bless America, stand beside her.
Should members of your family become mentaly deranged, and speak out against our government, come to us, we await you with open arms, for should this in fact take place in your family, if a member of your family unit becomes mentaly unbalaced, we will provide the help your loved one is in need of.
Remember we have killed millions upon millions to insure our countrys safety. Be proud that your tax money was the key to our great strength, to fight the good fight, to keep the terrorists at bay.
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 10:42 pm | #

And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

what is so hard to understand about this statement to the Church at Smyrna??
Sane.
GAK
Sees things
any other bible knowers please
talk to me

I tend toward the following:
when the time is right for a sword, then I have one(as when I wore a shield)
But on the other hand He said~~~
"He that lives by the sword, shall by the sword perish!"

so what do ya think??
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:34 pm | #

Freddy Fat | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:09 pm | #

GAK is that you???
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:16 pm | #

I work for the NWO, I am Gay and take it in the Arse.
You can beat me before you fuck me if you like.
I like to ware womens clothes, and I will suck anyones cock.
I'm frightend of the NWO anddecided to join up, and fight everyone else. I like the boys who work at the docks best.
Freddy Fat | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:09 pm | #

me and 2 and a man named boo,livin and lovin on the land
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 10:08 pm | #

Article to defund the big Dick:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/129398...-re-Dick- Cheney
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:01 pm | #

Putin's Arctic invasion: Russia lays claim to the North Pole - and all its gas, oil, and diamonds

Daily LIES, LIES and even bigger LIES Mail
Thursday, June 28, 2007
------------------------------------

You puke for the NWO, you aren't trusted, therefore you have to get live video of anything Putin says. Get it you LIEING FUCKS.
Also why don't you mention Putin giving the NWO Satan Salute, with the index and little fingers on one hand held aloft in a secret signal to his counter parts in the West.
We know he is another Fucking Masonic Arse Raped Child, who wouldn't dare say shit or he'll be exposed.
Is that to much truth for the Daily LIES Mail. I notice you don't even put a journalists name on the Lie story today.
cop & Journalist-KILLA | 06.28.07 - 10:00 pm | #

VACCINE COVER UP!
http://www.newstarget.com/011764.html

Please enjoy the Site people
doctor No NWO | 06.28.07 - 9:56 pm | #

Why would I join your site ...I don't understand can you explain please... sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:20 pm | #

Since you are a Jew and silent re Schweitzer, I would not have you on board...
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:41 pm | #
_____________________

Really, you are already categorizing the jews, this early in Prescott's Final Solution???

I am as much of a jew as Jesus, Gandhi, or MLK.

Would they also not be allowed into your treasure chest of knowledge?

What about Blacks? are they allowed?

What about Mexicans?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:46 pm | #

SANE = Well Known Planted Spammer DISINFO TURD - doing a VERY BAD JOB - since everyone knows you as THAT.

Nice posts Rich and you are exactly right about Sane, EXACTLY. He is one of Jones stooges used to steer the propaganda.
RCS | 06.28.07 - 9:41 pm | #

OMG - please don't tell anyone the truth. ooooooh
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:44 pm | #

So join up... when you have a low number everyone will know that you were among the first... The parameters for membership are that a meaningful effort, ie assisting the prosecution process for the murder of Katherine Schweitzer, and that includes prosecuting the police who have ignored vital evidence and leads that identify Fritz-Harry Cremer as an interested party... The missiles on 911... WTC's45&6... abortion... Murder in the P&D's Union... all has to be investigated and prosecution levied against all the guilty... Millions of executions... It'll be
great. Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:51

Why would I join your site ...I don't understand can you explain please... sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:20 pm | #

Since you are a Jew and silent re Schweitzer, I would not have you on board...
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:41 pm | #

Your quotation has been corrupted by translators with a hidden agenda for hundreds and thousands of years... The same way BS re 911 is being foisted on the citizens of the republic, by similar elements who require falsity to replace truth.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:30 pm | #

Are you certain???

How did you get so intelligent????

Did that Jew Jesus tell you????
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:38 pm | #

Tired, no offense but I just got done with this link and it looks like a mirror of dockers rhetoric:
http://100777.com/plan
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:35 pm | #

Show this forum which Translation you get, "...These are they who have washed their robe clean in the blood of Islam."

'...white in the blood of the Lamb." New American Standard Bible © 1995 Lockman Foundation. Patrick | 06.28.07 - 9:14 pm | #

Your quotation has been corrupted by translators with a hidden agenda for hundreds and thousands of years... The same way BS re 911 is being foisted on the citizens of the republic, by similar elements who require falsity to replace truth.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:30 pm | #

So join up... when you have a low number everyone will know that you were among the first... The parameters for membership are that a meaningful effort, ie assisting the prosecution process for the murder of Katherine Schweitzer, and that includes prosecuting the police who have ignored vital evidence and leads that identify Fritz-Harry Cremer as an interested party... The missiles on 911... WTC's45&6... abortion... Murder in the P&D's Union... all has to be investigated and prosecution levied against all the guilty... Millions of executions... It'll be great.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:51

Freddy you never answer any of the tough questions on the site. You are not trying to disrupt, divide, recruit like COINTELPRO are you????

If join the site do I get 10 free pairs of chopsticks?

How come you never promote this video that shows the weakness in Illuminati?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...WyJJQbFago& NR=1

Why would I join your site when it is run by Halliburton to divert the truth movement, I don't understand can you explain please?????
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:20 pm | #

"AMERICA PREVAILED"!!
THANK-YOU MY FELLOW AMERICANS WHO TOOK ACTION AGAINSST THIS DANGEROUS IMMIGRATION BILL!!
ALSO: ALL SENATOR'S WHO VOTED AGAINST THIS BILL 1639 "ARE AMERICAN HERO'S" IN MY BOOK!!
PLEASE BESURE TO CALL AND THANK THEM!
CINDY | 06.28.07 - 8:51 pm | #
Dear sister,'
we did it just for you!!
this government needs to be fired for even bringing such an abomination to the floor! Not to mention passing the patriot act TWICE!!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 9:17 pm | #

The world government prophesied in Revelations, and confirmed in The Koran is the glorious rule of The Antichrist, who will defeat the enemies of Allah and lead the Jews to the establishment of New Jerusalem, at the commencement of the new age and the start of the thousand year Reich... Footsteps of The AChrist | Homepage | 06.26.07 - 12:16 am | #

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha …if it wasn't so sad. Patrick | 06.26.07 - 4:09 am | #

Footsteps of The AChrist, Screw You, you sick pure evil bastard! …Jesus deal Satan a blow and you too! …rot in HELL! 9-11 truther | 06.26.07 - 1:34 am | #

I think you are being a bit tough on the toad man ...Read the prophesies of the end times in the book of Revelations. "...These are they who have washed their robe clean in the blood of Islam." Referring to those former sinners who have ben swayed by the rhetoric of the risen Antichrist... who have gone willingly to battle execution and death. Every prophesy in every book of prophesy prophesized his return from death… or yet The Paraclete, …the Prince of This World, who is already judged… or in Islam …The self taught prophet who is unversed of the scriptures… reminds mankind he is the messenger of Allah to all, and that all who respond to that message carry out the will of God. The Koran. …At age nine my father beats me to death… I meet Jesus he tells me I can stay with him or go back, ...about ten days later after another beating in the family home God called me by name… went on to tell me at age fourteen he had chosen me as his messenger… Yes he still talks to me and guides my fingers on the keyboard.

Full story… Homepage.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:50 pm | #

O.K.
now for a reality check~

Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. kjv

I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
New American Standard Bible © 1995 Lockman Foundation

I answered, “Sir, you know.”

And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

New International Version © 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society

I told him, "My lord, you know." He said to me, "These are those who came out of the great tribulation. They washed their robes, and made them white in the Lamb's blood.
Hebrew Names Version 2000

and I have said to him, `Sir, thou hast known;' and he said to me, `These are those who are coming out of the great tribulation, and they did wash their robes, and they made their robes white in the blood of the Lamb;
Robert Young Literal Translation 1862, 1887, 1898 Info

And I said to him, "Sir, you are the one who knows." Then he said to me, "These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb and made them white.
New Living Translation © 1996 Tyndale Charitable Trust

Show this forum which Translation you get that assinine statement "These are they who have washed their robe clean in the blood of Islam."

FOOLS BELEIVING THEMSELVES TO BE WISE
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 9:14 pm | #

When y'all take the AC on board, the first step will be that you get a number that will be your union number in The Painters and Dockers Union, MT is number one, The Beast is number 666 > http://www.dockersunion.com , even though the secretary expelled the original Beast as a scab in 1991, the owner of number 666 often is called The Beast... like number 555 is called Hollywood, 777 is Lucky etc.

So join up... when you have a low number everyone will know that you were among the first... The parameters for membership are that a meaningful effort, ie assisting the prosecution process for the murder of Katherine Schweitzer, and that includes prosecuting the police who have ignored vital evidence and leads that identify Fritz-Harry Cremer as an interested party... The missiles on 911... WTC's45&6... abortion... Murder in the P&D's Union... all has to be investigated and prosecution levied against all the guilty... Millions of executions... It'll be great.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:51 pm | #

Note to truthers, I will be on here very little for the next few days as i am moving and until i get connected at the new home my access to the internet will be limited to Internet Cafe's and Dial up, both of which I trully hate, but will be coming back with much new stuff for all of you.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:32 pm | #

hurry back tired!!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 8:39 pm | #

HOT: [HOAX] 'ET' False Flag Operation to Begin in August
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/fo...hread288280/ pg1

WANT A COPY OF THE CONGRESSIONAL REPORT ON 9/11?
WANT TO SEE THE LIES AND BLOCKED OUT PAGES FOR YOUR SELF
http://daggerdannconspiracy.trip...od.com/ id7.html

The Plan against the New World Order
http://100777.com/plan

What in Hades Series
http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/...hival=& posts=45

Women demand a new world order.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/site...9& dopt=Abstract

Note to truthers, I will be on here very little for the next few days as i am moving and until i get connected at the new home my access to the internet will be limited to Internet Cafe's and Dial up, both of which I trully hate, but will be coming back with much new stuff for all of you.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:32 pm | #

>>>>Fred Thompson/AEI is Preparing to Nuke the US with this PNAC Style Film Promoting Terrorism:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...-suitcase-bomb/
Fred Thompson’s Made-For-Hollywood Terror Warning

Former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-TN) has dealt first-hand with nuclear weapons — on the Hollywood big screen. In 2005, he starred as President Charles Ross in Last Best Chance, a docudrama about terrorists trying to smuggle nuclear weapons into the United States.

One of Hollywood’s favorite plots is the threat of so-called suitcase nukes, like the one featured in the show “24.” But these nuclear bombs cleverly concealed in suitcases don’t exist in real life:

Nuclear bombs cleverly concealed in suitcases don’t exist in real life. Even so, they have long been a popular Hollywood plot point. […]

Arms control expert Charles Thornton of the Center for International and Security Studies at the University of Maryland calls the scenario “so highly unlikely as to be approaching fantasy.”

It appears that Thompson is allowing his Hollywood experience to shape his budding presidential campaign. During an event in South Carolina yesterday, Thompson raised the made-for-Hollywood scenario of terrorist Cubans smuggling in “suitcase bombs”:

In his speech, Thompson assailed “unbearable tax burdens,” called for restrained spending, and argued for a smaller federal government. He expressed his opposition to the immigration bill in Congress and decried the flow of illegal immigrants from Cuba, saying: “I don’t imagine they’re coming here to bring greetings from Castro. We’re living in the era of the suitcase bomb.”

Thompson should focus on the real nuclear threats to the United States. A 2004 CRS report for Congress explained:

Scenarios for smuggling a nuclear weapon across unguarded coasts or borders are similar to those for smuggling bales of marijuana, many of which are reportedly flown in, brought by small boats, or carried across land borders; the difficulty of patrolling the borders makes such scenarios feasible.
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It is Rebuilding American Defenses in Movie Form.

Everyone associated with this movie needs to be heavily monitored for punditry and planning nuke attacks on US soil. This is how they do it. Make some fucking movie showing the AEI candidate as saving us all after a nuke attack-then they execute a nuke attack with Dick Cheney's Google pixelled out location.

That is how they did 9/11 and all the others. It is now official that AEI/Lynn "hangin in the bunker before the plane hit" Cheney/Dick "Have You Heard Anything to the Contrary" Cheney/Guiliani (VP Contender)/Swatzenfucker/etc. want to kill tens of millions of Americans

WAKE UP!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:27 pm | #

EXPOSING THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
http://daggerdannconspiracy.tripod.com/

E.L.F. Psychotronic Tyranny
http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctr.../mctrl/ nwo.html

SYNTHETIC TELEPATHY
http://www.nwbotanicals.org/oak/.../ synthtele.html

Organized Crime Threatens the New World Order
http://www.namebase.org/news08.html

P1 Field Report Conclusion: What's new in law enforcement technology: Part 2
http://www.policeone.com/writers...ticles/1268407/

Talmud Institute for US Lawyers Applauded by Justices
http://100777.com/node/310

Tavistock
The Best Kept Secret in America
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/ ...eptsecret.shtml

The new world order and international health
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/f...l/314/7091/ 1404
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:25 pm | #

I was getting worried about you, good to see ya!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:11 pm | #

Thanks. nothing to worry about some friends and i do survival skills about once a month out in the desert.
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:19 pm | #

Voinovich Lashes Out At Hannity: ‘You’re Not Going To Intimidate Me,’ Then Hangs Up
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...ich-lashes-out/
Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS) said recently that “talk radio is running America” and that “we have to deal with that problem.” Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said “hate radio” has hijacked the political discourse with its “xenophobic, anti-immigrant” rhetoric.

Yesterday, Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH) released his frustration in a “hate radio” interview with Sean Hannity. “A lot of radio programs have really got out there and fired this thing up,” Voinovich said of the immigration debate. “And so people are really hot about it. And I’m getting calls from people that basically are intimidating me.” Voinovich told Hannity:

I’ve had people back home because of programs like yours said to me if you vote for this bill, it’s the end of your political career. I just want you to know and I want everybody else to know that you do not intimidate George Voinovich.

Fed up with Hannity’s efforts to turn the interview into a right-wing commentary, Voinovich lashed out, “I really don’t think it’s worthy to talk to you right now because you’ve got your mind made up.” Hannity then turned on Voinovich, telling him, “You’re running away because you can’t answer a simple question. … Oh, so I’m irrational because I disagree with you? You’re a mighty senator, ok I get it.” Voinovich then hung up.

Listen to the interview:

UPDATE: The right is outraged over Voinovich. Hot Air says he humiliated himself. KLo writes, “At least he didn’t cry.” Radio Equalizer asks, “How did these elected officials get so out of touch with reality?” And FrontPage calls him “Senator Embarrassment.”
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When Hannity is the voice of reason, the congress is truly in LA-LA land.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:18 pm | #

Freedom Isn't Free, and Silence is Consent!
http://www.raven1.net/

Loser Kerry wants to censor Conservatives on Talk Radio.
http://www.godlikeproductions.co...=405039& mpage=1

Notice Regarding The Availibility of Administrative Supplements to Support U.S. – Netherlands Binational Collaborative Research on Drug Abuse
http://grants.nih.gov/grants/gui...-DA-07- 003.html

Giuliani ‘More Concerned With Image Than Safety’ During Anthrax Scare: Fmr Bush EPA Chief
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...image- than.html

Research and Publications
http://www.dem.dcc.state.nc.us/M...ow- To7_AppC.pdf

Congressional Reports: Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities before and after the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serials...eports/ 911.html

U.S. Department of Justice
Office of Justice Programs
National Institute of Justice
http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/n.../nij/ 187083.pdf

The New Structure of Policing:
http://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles1/n.../nij/ 187083.txt

Islamberg, New York: "You can hear gunfire up there. I can't understand why the FBI won't shut it down"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archiv...ives/ 016411.php

Clitic Doubling, Reflexives, and Word Order Alternations in Yagua
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici...%3E2.0.CO%3B2- V

Great Links to News
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi- b...estcomments.cgi

U.S. Government Agencies
http://international.drugabuse.g....gov/ links.html

Good links for video
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?c...e? category_id=1
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:17 pm | #

Chris,
you may or may not be aware, you cannot achieve the rank of General (or Admiral)l in any U.S. branch of service unless you are a 33rd degree Freemason!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 7:55 pm | #
___________________

I heard being homosexual helps.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:16 pm | #

At age nine my father beats me to death… I meet Jesus he tells me I can stay with him or go back, ...about ten days later after another beating in the family home God called me by name… went on to tell me at age fourteen he had chosen me as his messenger… Yes he still talks to me and guides my fingers on the keyboard.

Full story… Homepage.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:50 pm | #

Good one, why do you think Cheney is building the 1,000 death camps with hijacked 19 billion to that Dubai company Halliburton that sells nukes to Iran through Giza as reported in dozens of declassified documents. I checked all around your site and all it said was that Cheney wants to stick all the jews, blacks, nexicans, gays, and handicapped into shackle chains on a superhighway to GE/Halliburton death camps. Was that a typo? can you clarify this possible minor issue???
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:14 pm | #

Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:08 pm | #

I was getting worried about you, good to see ya!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:11 pm | #

A new world order.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov...i? artid=1314162

MOLDING MINDS THROUGH GROUP MANIPULATION
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ber...itKjos/ kjos.htm

Muddling Through: World Orders and Globalization
http://www.blackwell- synergy.com...24.1992.00003.x

"WHATEVER IS COVERED UP WILL BE UNCOVERED AND EVERY SECRET WILL BE MADE KNOWN--
"YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE"--
http://www.freedomdomain.com/welcome.htm

Gaza Strip is 'abroad' in a strange way
http://mparent7777- 2.blogspot.co...14_archive.html

Editor's Note; Why Does the GOP Seek to Silence American Muslims?
http://mparent7777- 2.blogspot.co...08_archive.html

Probe Finds NIH Official Violated Government Regulations
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...l- violated.html

Washington hurting British bid to free crew
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/ ...02_archive.html

EuroYank NEW WORLD ORDER REPORTS
http://euroyank.blogspot.com/ 200...01_archive.html

Ex-councilwoman could be deported
http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/1855531/ posts
Tired Of The Lies | 06.28.07 - 8:08 pm | #

I do not excuse the Military higher ups, the Generals, Admirals, etc. They are obviously either mentaly ill, without concience , up to their necks in graft, or simply so egotistical they choose not to see the abomiantion their masters have created.

Chris,
you may or may not be aware, you cannot achieve the rank of General (or Admiral)l in any U.S. branch of service unless you are a 33rd degree Freemason!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 7:55 pm | #

who signed it?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:46 pm | #
----------------------------------

It's not the point. And you didn't mention the other issue either? 911 responsibility?

You say he's the only viable candidate, he's backing off all the fucking time.

Ed & Elaine Brown,for example, all 'Paul's' got to do is say well, IRS,......... show us the LAW.
That is no big deal and he would avoid becomming embroiled in something he's not wanting to become emersed in. But he would send a massive shock-wave back through the political system

Who the fuck is the campaign manager?? If it was me I would have jumped all over that.

He's missing way to much, lots of opportunity to to send political shots but he ain't takin them.
Have they got something on Ron Paul? is a question I had when I first saw him.

& another is, is he a tool to take the energy out of the decenters? Because trying to repeal the IRS or many other things are just stupid b4 he gets into the presidential office.

and whilst I'm in this mode, I ain't gonna tell you what you want to hear, cos I want you to stay alive & KICKING, get me. Sorry but it's the only way, to keep you conscious.

Trust no-one, let Paul prove himself, now, again and again, over & over, cos he just ain't up to the mark for me. I know he has good history, but today counts more than ever.

I mean in the Lee Rogers Interview, he almost condones the Murder the CIA were involved in, from their own documentation, and Paul dismisses it???? No mate, MURDER is MURDER in any Country. He could arrest all those fucks who did that shit now, cos they are still alive.

Something's wrong with Ron Paul, and this is a warning, take heed, I'm not usally wrong about such things.
cop-KILLA | 06.28.07 - 7:41 pm | #

re Low Approval Ratings

Bush and congress race to see who can get to 0% approval first.
pc | 06.28.07 - 7:35 pm | #

Democrats & Republicans, a total of 535 Elected offficials have done none less than nothing about the abomination we call the commander and chief, or his mentor, Mr. Cheney.
I would like tio hide in a big bubble and tell myself that we actualy live in a democracy a proud and righteous Republic , I would like to convince myself that our politicians care about their citizens. I would like to beleive our constitution is not disregarded, and above all I would seriously enjoy beleiving that I can be proud of this country and that those that sacrificed their lives for our land were not in vain, or for the profits and power of the elite manipulators.
I did once believe, I even fought for this country in a war. Sorry, but I can't hide in a bubble, no matter how much I would like to. I choose the red pill. I choose truth.
Our elected officials are cowards, they are traitors, and liars. If this were not the case impeachment,imprisonment, or lynching would be mandatory for a great multitude of the human waste who have sacrificed this land, its people, and civilians killed on foreign soil, after a illegal invasion, under false and deceptive lies of threatning the American public with WMD's.
I do not excuse the Military higher ups, the Generals, Admirals, etc. They are obviously either mentaly ill, without concience , up to their necks in graft, or simply so egotistical they choose not to see the abomiantion their masters have created.
In short, the military uppers are cowards-moraly.
Traitors to their oath to uphold the constituion be it foriegn or domestic enemies.
I was once in a bubble, I discovered it was programed that way, I have escaped their programing and deceptions, I will maintain my soul.
may these parrasitic powermongers be brought to justice.
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 7:03 pm | #

You rock , Chris Jones, keep up the good work brudder!!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 7:33 pm | #

thats a regular bobby dazzler mate
Snake Plisken | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:25 pm | #

Frosty Wooldridge Thursday, June 28, 2007... The worst president in U.S. history, George Bush, with a 24 percent disapproval rating by U.S. citizens along with the worst Congress with an 16 percent disapproval rating-- continue pushing the worst bill in American history.

There have been a lot of worst bills in US history and even more worse decisions in the US Supreme Court... else why have doctors come up with the term Pre-term Abortion which is capital infanticide... and allowed thug criminals to '...take the fifth,' the filthy fifth amendment that enabled scab thugs who had infiltrated the labor unions to thumb their noses at sworn proceedings.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 7:13 pm | #

Now is the follow through, which is to remove all of the Yes voters for this bill out of office.
Henry | 06.28.07 - 7:01 pm | #

Ex-Reagan Deputy Attorney General: Impeach Cheney Josh Catone
Published: Thursday June 28, 2007

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ex...heney_0628.html
Bruce Fein, who served as the Deputy Attorney General under Ronald Reagan, in a scathing editorial today called for the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney.

"Cheney has dulled political accountability and concocted theories for evading the law and Constitution that would have embarrassed King George III," he writes.

This is not the first time that Fein has taken on the Bush administration. In March 2006, Fein appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee to testify on Senate Resolution 398, which called for the censure of George Bush over the warrantless wiretap program.

Fein said in his 2006 testimony that by authorizing the domestic spying program, President Bush sought to "cripple the Constitution’s checks and balances and political accountability."

With the wiretap program back in the news following this week's congressional subpoenas of the White House and the office of the Vice President, and a subsequent refusal to cooperate, Fein unleashed his highly critical philippic.

Fein details "multiple crimes against the Constitution" committed by Cheney, including the creation of military commissions, the "kidnappings, secret detentions, and torture in Eastern European prisons of suspected international terrorists," the advocation of "signing statements" to ignore pieces of legislation, and the encouragement of the use of torture.

"The vice president has maintained that the entire world is a battlefield," writes Fein, saying the vice president has used the bugaboo of terrorism to justify a shoot first, ask questions later approach to dealing with suspected terrorists, even when that includes American citizens.

Fein also touches on the hot-button warrantless wiretapping program, over which he has butted heads with the administration in the past. He argues that Cheney engineered the program and has "orchestrated the invocation of executive privilege" to conceal information about it from Congress.

In the end, Fein makes the case that "Bush has ceded vast domains of his powers to Vice President Cheney," in violation of the US Constitution.

"President Bush regularly is unable to explain or defend the policies of his own administration, and that is because the heavy intellectual labor has been performed in the office of the vice president," he concludes. "Cheney is impeachable for his overweening power and his sneering contempt of the Constitution and the rule of law."
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:54 pm | #

Scientists step toward making synthetic life
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/ ...from=public_rss
SCIENTISTS have taken a first step toward making synthetic life by transferring genetic material from one bacterium into another, transforming the second microbe into a copy of the first.

They intend to use their technique to custom-design bacteria to perform functions such as producing artificial fuel or cleaning up toxic waste, the researchers report in today's issue of the journal Science.

“This is equivalent to changing a Macintosh computer to a PC by inserting a new piece of software,” Craig Venter, a genome pioneer who now heads his own institute in Rockville, Maryland, said in a telephone briefing.

“I think eventually we could make artificial cells,” Mr Venter added.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:51 pm | #

cop-KILLA | 06.28.07 - 6:40 pm | #

who signed it?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:46 pm | #

Claiming that Iraq was developing weapons of mass destruction the president maneuvered a malleable congress into an approval for a military attack. The same protocols are in place re Iran.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:12 pm | #

Freddy why do you avoid me?

Why do you avoid the really tough questions about 9/11, like what did Cheney/Guiliani do with all the Gold???????

Why id Cheney building the jew/black/hispanic/homosexual death camps?

why are you avoiding the really hard hiting evidence?

What are you hiding?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:46 pm | #

Ron Paul refused to sign a document for the Impeachment of Bush & Cheney????? Excuse me Mr Paul, you might want to pull your head out your arse and take another look.

ERRRR you don't think the American Administration had anything to do with the 911 Attacks???????
So why did Bush sit there in the school smirking with fucking book upside down he was reading from??????

Sorry all you Ron Paul supporters, you are wasting your time, he just ain't got it. He is also too OLD.
It is not with pleasure I say this either, I wish he was up to it, but he don't stand a chance.

Also from that interveiw with Lee Rogers, it looks absolutly garrunteed the NWO will launch an attack of some sort. This will give Bush a [right?] to declare himself dictator.
The best thing an American can do now is LOCK & LOAD, try to take out any member of the administration. All the members of the CFR, and the Feds too, as they are likely gonna be your biggest obstical.
cop-KILLA | 06.28.07 - 6:40 pm | #

PLEASE CHANGE YOUR PARTY AFFILIATION TO "REPUBLICAN!" SO YOU CAN VOTE IN THE PRIMARY FOR RON PAUL!!!

- yes i know that i'm "shouting" its IMPORTANT!
edward | 06.28.07 - 6:36 pm | #

No dictator can seize power and maintain control over a country without the support of subordinate, or lesser, despots. ibid

I gotta agree with you Darryl... the BBC vid is pure trash masquerading as responsible journalism...

"MI5 counter terrorism officer David Shayler uncovers the BBC's selective and distorted 9/11 coverage and the corporation's attempts to portray the 9/11 truth movement as a racist cult like group of mythology." Steve Watson PP

From one distortion to another... the video is no more than a cynical attempt to steer the audience away from real truth and real evidence...

Odigo... the Tomahawk Cruise Missile strike at WTC's5&6... Alex's puzzling broadcast late July 2001... was a cryptic message encoded into the transmission... did his usage of the words World Trade Centre ...Terrorism and Osama Bin Laden all in one sentence reveal him as a tool of opposing forces or as a patriot warning of the nation's danger...

Bearing in mind that his warning did not quite get it right... If he said the Jews who infiltrated the Pentagon whose goons in the person of GWB and awful warfull Dick Cheney, were planning an attack that resembled in every way an insurance fraud that would subsequently be blamed on OBL... well then we might have got somewhere...

Read that Mossad has just murdered an Egyptian national... Isn't that the way of the Jews... Katherine Schweitzer was murdered in Sydney in similar circumstances in Dec 2006... Ask Steve Watson about it... he's a denier... The Jew are mute... on and on...

Steve come on over mate, no one wants to hurt Alex's feelings but his record states his purpose...

Claiming that Iraq was developing weapons of mass destruction the president maneuvered a malleable congress into an approval for a military attack. The same protocols are in place re Iran.
Freddy Fatt | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 6:12 pm | #

These sick mofuks start fights then run like sissies, and or hire a bonehead to do the dirty work while they eat seafood watching court jeesters. Goddam even the Christians are stupid by the warped mason King James edition forgetting that there was the Gospel of Thomas and even Mary. Do you think Mary was so dumb that she couldn't write about her son? Watch what people tell you because people lie and don't tell the whole truth.
Sony | 06.28.07 - 5:55 pm | #

First as a Canadian I would like to thank you American Patriots for standing up for your own country. I spoke to Americans up here in Canada who are so dumbed down they haven't a clue what is going on. They said " Oh, that is just a California problem'. Then they jumped in their yaught and forgot about everything.

Thank god some of you have a brain and know your being duped. In fact it was Americans who clued me in to this stupendous crime of the millenia.

Good work Ron Paul. We know the crooks are the central banks and a piece of dogshit is worth more than a Rockefeller to the human species. The Bankers are a disease poisoning humanity with their limitless greed and we know that we can sustain a world of equalibrium population. The more the money that goes around the less offspring will result because the poor hope that one of their offspring wil take care of them.
Sony | 06.28.07 - 5:42 pm | #

re Dead Immigration Bill

Busch looses. I'm not buying any more of his beer either. All illegal alienz please report to Busch's Crawford, TX ranch for reassignment
pc | 06.28.07 - 5:13 pm | #

they should be setting exzamples and making 5.50 a fucking hour like all the rest of us fucking slaves
tom | 06.28.07 - 4:48 pm | #

who is he talking about Members of congress give themselves a pay raise
tom | 06.28.07 - 4:45 pm | #

see i told you people they are rich greedy fucking pigs
tom | 06.28.07 - 4:44 pm | #

Legal Memo Confirms White House Led Effort To Target And Remove U.S. Attorneys
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...clement-letter/
Today, White House counsel Fred Fielding released a letter informing Congress that President Bush will assert executive privilege over White House documents relating to the firing of U.S. attorneys. Fielding attached a legal memorandum written by Solicitor General Paul Clement, laying out the legal basis for the executive privilege claim.

Clement reviewed the documents that the Congress subpoenaed. In his letter, Clement reveals what investigators have suspected from the very beginning — that the White House was intimately involved in the attorney scandal. Upon examination of the White House documents, Clement writes:

Among other things, these communications discuss the wisdom of such a proposal, specific U.S. Attorneys who could be removed, potential replacement candidates, and possible responses to congressional and media inquiries about the dismissals.

The White House had “said that Mr. Bush’s aides approved the list of prosecutors only after it was compiled.” President Bush himself said that “the Justice Department made recommendations, which the White House accepted” regarding the removal of the attorneys.

On a related point, Marcy Wheeler writes that it is a serious conflict of interest for Clement to be advising Bush to assert executive privilege in the very same scandal that Clement is supposed to be investigating.

Paul Clement, as you’ll recall, is the guy currently in charge of any investigation into the US Attorney firings, since Alberto Gonzales recused himself some months ago. He’s the one who technically oversees the Office of Special Counsel investigation into whether politics played an improper part in Iglesias’ firing or the hiring of career employees in DOJ, he’s the one who oversees the joint Office of Professional Responsibility and Inspector General investigations into whether anything improper–including obstruction of justice–occurred in the hiring and firing of USAs. And now, he’s the guy who gets to tell the President that he doesn’t have to turn over what might amount to evidence of obstruction of justice in the Foggo and Wilkes case, among others.

Clement’s letter reveals the White House was deeply involved in selectively targeting attorneys for removal. These documents presumably reveal the motives of the White House in purging the U.S. attorneys. Now Clement is working to ensure those documents never become public.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:31 pm | #

>>>>Hersh: ‘Bush And Cheney’s Wet Dream Is Hitting Iran’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...ersh-bush-iran/

In February, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh wrote a piece in The New Yorker revealing that the Bush administration was setting its sights heavily on Iran, planning for a “possible bombing attack“:

Still, the Pentagon is continuing intensive planning for a possible bombing attack on Iran, a process that began last year, at the direction of the President. In recent months, the former intelligence official told me, a special planning group has been established in the offices of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, charged with creating a contingency bombing plan for Iran that can be implemented, upon orders from the President, within twenty-four hours.

Yesterday, Hersh spoke more on the Bush administration’s focus on Iran at the Campus Progress National Conference. He said that President Bush and Vice President Cheney are ignoring the actual intelligence on Iran. The “intelligence community keeps on saying, ‘There’s no bomb there.’ And Cheney keeps on saying to the young briefing officers, ‘Thank you son, I don’t buy that.’” Hersh added, “George Bush’s and Dick Cheney’s wet dream is hitting Iran.” Listen to Hersh’s remarks here:
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 4:29 pm | #

Alex Jones foretold the official story... That is circumstantial evidence of prior knowledge... Thus he would certainly have an agenda to see that the whole truth at least in so far as how he came to be spruiking about OBL and the WTC about ten weeks prior...
Freddy | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:51 pm | #

Great Freddy, why do you hide from the really key 911 questions like, how did Cheney get the gold out and was it split equally between Rockefeller/Rothschild/Cheney/Kissinger/Buffett/ Swarzzenneeger or did someone get a bigger share? Also have we hit 100 Halliburton/Cheney death camps yet?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:57 pm | #

The spam is from a single source believed to be Scott Makufka, Mossad chief in North America.

…I have to sit here scrolling through trash and wasting time… everything you just mentioned is totally unverifiable… this is a news site that sticks to what is provable... thanks to those who post sensible and informative comments… Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:40 pm | #

yeah or maybe its because everything you just mentioned is totally unverifiable and this is a news site that sticks to what is provable. Steve Watson | 06.26.07 - 7:34 pm | #

I certainly hope that you are not suggesting that the missile story or the death of Schweitzer are unverifiable... give me a break... Minetta was up front on day one... Odigo said 4000 Jews didn't show up on 911... The put options and Israeli investors also hit the newswires on day one... and have had no coverage since. How many stories did you do on Ed who dont like taxes... tough on Ed and that way no Odigo news gets on the web... The PP front page has had two Ron Paul listings all year and he has done nuthin...

Alex Jones foretold the official story... That is circumstantial evidence of prior knowledge... Thus he would certainly have an agenda to see that the whole truth at least in so far as how he came to be spruiking about OBL and the WTC about ten weeks prior...
Freddy | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:51 pm | #

Seems to me like the cop is out of control. He leaves one handcuffed "suspect" on the ground while he chases after another kid because the kid has a skateboard.
Sure there may be factors we are not aware of that set this cop off, but at the very least this guy shows he is not a professional.
Control freaks are exactly the type of people who shouldn't be cops, but they are exactly the kind of people attracted to police work. And for all the wrong reasons. IMHO.
Dave | 06.28.07 - 3:45 pm | #

Que lastimo Senor El Presidente
Snake Plisken | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:39 pm | #

Very well said Chris Jones. McManara is heard on telephone with Lydon Johnson ( I saw the tape) telling Mr Prez to down play incident Gulf of Tonkin, I believe his exact words were plausable denialibilty. These is all earily similiar to the reason so many contracters are in theatre in Iraq, so administration can use the excuse, nobody would have ever thought a private contractor would cross line.
Rush to war | 06.28.07 - 3:22 pm | #

Ancient Libertarian Wisdom From China?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8...ig8/ bryan1.html
From Chapter 17 of the Tao Te Ching: "In the highest antiquity, the people did not know that there were rulers. In the next age they loved them and praised them. In the next they feared them; in the next they despised them." "The people suffer from famine because of the multitude of taxes consumed by their superiors".

Cheney: If you think his abuse of power is scary now, consider this...
http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...oc/20070709/ huq
... consider what might happen when he counts Electoral College votes in a divisive 2008 election?

FDA Plan To Eliminate Vitamin Companies? Whose side are you on?
http://www.truthera.com/2007/06/...amin-companies/
I noticed a huge spike in negative mainstream news reporting on vitamins, dietary supplements and over the counter remedies starting about 8 months ago... obviously drug companies are pissed off about losing revenue and aren't satisfied with just f*cking over the consumer at the register... they want it all

Kansas City Star is censoring Ron Paul call the writer the number is below
http:// www.evolutionofdeception....nPaulCensor.htm
I suggest to you the reader is to call my local newspaper which is the Kansas City Star, and ask Steve Kraske why he chose to omit Ron Paul from the selection of Candidates in the Sunday June 24th, 2007 article on Politics? The number to call is 816-234-4312. While your at it send him an email and let him know what you think about him censoring Ron

Female police officer recorded hitting two parked cars, leaves the scene.
http://www.palmbeachdailynews.co...ayer/news/ 21328
Palm Beach, Florida. A West Palm beach police officer is captured via on board camera swerving over the double solid line a few times and finally hits two parked cars. She then leaves the scene and inspects the damage to her patrol car in a nearby parking garage. Floridas finest.

Eat a penis. The Beijing Penis Restaurant -- Seriously! [SFW]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/53715...5371500.stm? lsm
There are many thousands of Chinese restaurants around in the UK and everyone has their favourite dish, but only in China itself do chefs specialise in a range of slightly more unusual delicacies.

American Inventor - Device helps you hookup in bars [another reason for implantable chips-WTF is with this NWO invention and propaganda!!!]
http://www.flicklife.com/ c667d2e...up_in_bars.html
This device will alert you when someone has the same interests as you..It's your wingman that will never let you down!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 3:07 pm | #

MSNBC REPORTS that we shut down the Senate phone lines as they were inundated with calls against this bill!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:57 pm | #

Republican Senator Hazy Past
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Re..._past_0627.html
A Republican Senator who is a board member of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, is pointed out to have smoked pot in High School, and is asked to stop being a Hypocrite

Human Rights Council discontinues mandate against Cuba
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/...iew/5455/1/267/
At the end of its 5th Session in Geneva, the Human Rights Council decided to discontinue the mandate of the so-called personal representative of the High Commissioner for Human Rights in relation to Cuba.

Odd Aerial "Drones"?Over Lake Tahoe and Central California, Check This Out!
http:// www.earthfiles.com.vsd18....ory=Environment
What are these things? A Hoax or experimental aircraft? A new kind of UFO? Whatever it is, these people got some real close shots of them, so close you can even see some kind of writing on that wing like structure."The sound described is consistent with electrostatic field discharges." The shape of these things reminds me of some kind of Ion drive

Israeli president to admit to sex crimes
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle2001039.ece
Israel ’s president has agreed to a controversial plea bargain that will allow him to avoid a possible prison sentence on rape charges. Moshe Katsav will resign as Israeli President tonight after agreeing to plead guilty to sexual harassment.

Court: Feds Can Seize Half of House
http://www.breitbart.com/article...& show_article=1
A woman who claimed she was unaware that her husband was growing pot in the basement will get to keep her half of their house, while the government can seize her husband's share, a federal appeals court has ruled...

Exxon, Conoco Drop Venezuela Oil Projects
http://digg.com/world_news/ Exxon...la_Oil_Projects
Exxon Mobil Corp. and ConocoPhillips have decided to abandon their heavy crude oil projects in eastern Venezuela rather than cede majority ownership and operating control to the government, Venezuelan officials said Tuesday.

Vista security baloney
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/ ...3428189546.html
If you believe Jeff Jones, Microsoft's security strategy director, then Vista is much more secure than XP, Mac OS X, and Linux. Ah, you do know his paychecks are signed by Bill Gates, right?

Kidnapped politicians 'die in botched rescue'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle1998906.ece
Eleven kidnapped Colombian politicians held hostage for five years have been killed in the crossfire after the army attacked the jungle camp where they were being kept.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:53 pm | #

This officer is just too gung-ho. He should simply have warned the skaters. The skaters should follow the law and not have knowingly violated it. If I were on the jury - I would fine the skaters for skateboarding where they were in violation of known law, as it is a safety issue for pedestrians and others who must use the same busy sidewalk, maybe even safety issue for drivers. I would have to deal with the officer, too, and let him know that he needs to be courteous, respectful, and verbal PRIOR to roughing up and manhandling people, whom he is supposed to SERVE, not violate them and their rights. I guess I'd "desk" him for a week or so (longer, depending on his attitude) and get him some retraining.
Anonymous | 06.28.07 - 2:30 pm | #

Good thing that you will not be on the jury because you are obviously not open to evidence and have judged this case already [whole purpose for a judicial system].

I would like to know more about histories of all involved and check into written and oral orders from the chief on down.

Also I would investigate if/how federal procedures might have influenced local law enforcement in their judgement/actions. We want to make sure this is not a nationwide issue due to some new federal unconstitutional mandates.

That would just be a few of my considerations before even attempting to look into verdicts.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:40 pm | #

A Security Group Plans to Move Port Security Screening 14 Miles Offshore
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/ tec...ecbccdrcrd.html
The plan calls for pairs of 100-foot-wide platforms anchored outside the world's major ports. Equipped with an array of sensors and unmanned surveillance drones, the system monitors for chemical, biological and nuclear traces as ships travel between the platforms.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:21 pm | #

>>>>>Family Jewels - CIA's Strangeloves Altered The Mind Of A Girl Age 4
http:// www.theaustralian.news.co...1980496,00.html
EASILY lost on pg 425 of the "Family Jewels" files: a short paragraph outlining "potentially embarrassing Agency activities". Of all the heinous acts committed by the CIA in the name of national security, these experiments, done on the CIA's behalf by prominent psychiatrists on innocent victims - including children as young as 4 may be the darkest
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Now tell all those fuckers saying, "show me proof show me proof..."

I got yer proof right here!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:19 pm | #

WTF? am I sounding militant , or patriotic today, then again haven't these been synonymous in our countries history whenever change actually was effected?
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 2:04 pm | #

See Live Free or Die Hard-good movie for truthers [not as much as shooter, but we can see beyond the surface messages].
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:15 pm | #

Dems: Investigate Cheney for role in salmon die-off
http:// seattletimes.nwsource.com..._salmon28m.html
West Coast Democrats called for a hearing Wednesday into the role Vice President Dick Cheney may have played in the 2002 die-off of about 70,000 salmon near the California-Oregon border.

A Shill For the Police State: Awful Neil Cavuto
http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewr...ves/ 013782.html
Watching his exchange with Dr. Paul, I can't help but be disgusted by Neil Cavuto. This is what the modern right has become -- a shill for the police state's enforcement of draconian tax rates. But Cavuto does inform us of something important: He points out that if people were allowed not to pay their taxes, the whole system would collapse.

Benoit's Death Posted to Wikipedia 14 Hours Before Bodies Found !!!!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2...,287194,00.html
An anonymous user operating a computer traced to Stamford, Conn. — home to World Wrestling Entertainment — posted an entry to pro wrestler Chris Benoit's Wikipedia.com biography announcing the death of his wife Nancy more than 14 hours before police in suburban Atlanta said they found her body.

Document Fraud Ring Gearing Up for Immigration Amnesty Law; ICE Ignores
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/ a...ment_fraud.html
A $300 million national document fraud ring that provides all types of fake ID to illegal aliens, criminals, terrorists, and sundry other malefactors, is gearing up to create fraudulent documents that meet requirements for a Z-Visa under the Immigration Amnesty Bill.

WSJ Reporters Stage Mass Murdoch Protest
http://poynter.org/forum/view_po...st.asp? id=12696
Wall Street Journal reporters across the country chose not to show up to work this morning. Read the reasons after the break.

Ron Paul Rockets to First in Website Traffic
http://infowars.com/articles/us/ ...ite_traffic.htm
Hillary Clinton overtook Barack Obama in May, John Edwards and Rudy Giuliani held steady and Ron Paul rocketed from fifth place to first. That's according to Hitwise data showing the ebb and flow of traffic to the official sites of the Democratic and Republican presidential primary candidates.

Olbermann chews up, spits out Murdoch & O'Reilly
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...urdoch-oreilly/
Keith slams Rupert Murdoch for sanctioning censorship on the Chinese version of NewsCorp ’s MySpace and buying off Congress to keep his stranglehold on the US media, then smacks around Bill ORally for making an ass of himself…again.

Media Fail to Inform Public About OIC
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/...ntry=26043& only
In all the mainstream media articles about President Bush’s announcement that he’s appointing an envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference, not a single one actually looks at the history and statements of this hate-filled Islamic group, whose charter...

An Interview with Presidential Candidate Congressman Ron Paul
http://www.muckrakerreport.com/i....com/ id447.html
This one covers a wide spectrum of issues. Iraq. Israel. Guantanamo. AIPAC. Iran. Capitalism. NAFTA. Economics. IRS. Philosophy. Abortion. Federalism. Gay rights. Stem-cells. Racism. Free speech. Education. Health care. Immigration. REAL ID. Global warming. Kyoto. Marijuana. 9/11 Commission. Net neutrality. Role of government.

The Ron Paul Revolution is on its way to Iowa
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/F...m? InfoNo=020573
The Ron Paul Revolution - AZ branch is winging its way to Iowa, to have some fun. Many signs accompany the team. A big round of applause to those who showed up, donated their time under uncomfortable conditions to produce the signs, and those who contributed in other ways to this journey. Radio reports, images and video to follow.

Ron Paul in New Hampshire
http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/r...aul-in- new.html
June 28, 2007 Ron Paul in New Hampshire On Friday June 22nd, Congressman Ron Paul made his third trip to New Hampshire. The first stop was the recording of Arnie Arnesen's television show "Political Chowder" which aired on Sunday the 24th. "Political Chowder" is seen in over two million households across New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Vermon
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 2:13 pm | #

Truthers,
We are knowlegable on what is going on in this nation, so I am not going into it.
But, I'm attempting to get a handle on how long this mob has been preparing for this.
Why, when I was a young child everything was about America and freedom, sure this was after WWII, the 50's. Then along comes the cold war, and THEY the ol gov. put screeching loudspeakers to the front of our schools and tell us if they go of, we are under nuclear attack from Russia, and we must hide under our desks.FEAR upon FEAR, Sure, give the ol gov what they need, the commies are coming to eat the children RHETORIC. The domino theory, not the game, the hype they gave Russia, they will conquer us one nation at a time. FEAR.
Then JFK was shot to death, our president. Then his brother, who by the way wanted to stop Vietnam also, was shot to death.
Then LBJ got in the big chair and the Gulf of Tonkin epicode escalated the bombing and THEIR profits,( by the way proven to be a deception.)
Demonstrations by the millions against the money making war in Vietnam that was responsible for the death of four million civilians and 50,000 troops.
Now, 911 appears, who beleives this incident was not coordianted by some officials in our goverment and other elite factions needs to be enlightened or join them.
WMD's, after the horendous fear of 911, we hear of chemical and nuclear WMD's in Iraq, we hear how we must find and destroy these acropoliptic weapons of mass destruction, so in FEAR America cheered. There were none and THEY know it so do we. Years later we are still in Iraq, we invaded illegaly a soveriegn foriegn nation and killed over 750,000 civilians during our occupation. and 5000 of Americs sons and daughters, yet NO WMD'S
were found since 1991, we know it, they know it, the world knows it.
OK, to my point, I remember Eisenhowers warning us about the MIC, he said more or less, beware of those who profit from war. Have we, and how long has these pathetic deceptions been taking over our country.
The buble people dont know and many dont want to know, they live in a world of Rhetoric and misbeleif. But thruthers dont live there, you dont, thank GOD. Again, anyone have a handle on when the takeover began, becasue my memory brings me back to the fifties.???????????????????
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 2:06 pm | #

WTF? am I sounding militant , or patriotic today, then again haven't these been synonymous in our countries history whenever change actually was effected?
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 2:04 pm | #

so they "killed" the latest treasonous bill, finally!
we can sleep safe at night cause the illegals have disappeared!!
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 2:03 pm | #

Why the Iraq war won't engulf the Mideast
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007...on/ edtakeyh.php
By Steven A. Cook, Ray Takeyh and Suzanne Maloney
Published: June 28, 2007
Long before the Bush administration began selling "the surge" in Iraq as a way to avert a general war in the Middle East, observers both inside and outside the government were growing concerned about the potential for armed conflict among the regional powers.

Underlying this anxiety was a scenario in which Iraq's sectarian and ethnic violence spills over into neighboring countries, producing conflicts between the major Arab states and Iran as well as Turkey and the Kurdistan Regional Government. These wars then destabilize the entire region well beyond the current conflict zone, involving heavyweights like Egypt.

This is scary stuff indeed, but with the exception of the conflict between Turkey and the Kurds, the scenario is far from an accurate reflection of the way Middle Eastern leaders view the situation in Iraq and calculate their interests there.

It is abundantly clear that major outside powers like Saudi Arabia, Iran and Turkey are heavily involved in Iraq. These countries have so much at stake in the future of Iraq that it is natural they would seek to influence political developments in the country.
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Yet, the Saudis, Iranians, Jordanians, Syrians, and others are very unlikely to go to war either to protect their own sect or ethnic group or to prevent one country from gaining the upper hand in Iraq.

The reasons are fairly straightforward. First, Middle Eastern leaders, like politicians everywhere, are primarily interested in one thing: self-preservation. Committing forces to Iraq is an inherently risky proposition, which, if the conflict went badly, could threaten domestic political stability. Moreover, most Arab armies are geared toward regime protection rather than projecting power and thus have little capability for sending troops to Iraq.

Second, there is cause for concern about the so-called blowback scenario in which jihadis returning from Iraq destabilize their home countries, plunging the region into conflict.
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I pray they are right
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:53 pm | #

Have At it

Hot Springs Police Department

Joseph Williams jjec4@hsnp.com
641 Malvern Avenue
Hot Springs, AR 71901
Phone: 501-321-6789
Jason R. | 06.28.07 - 1:50 pm | #

Sadr: The March Will Go On
Moqtada Appeals to All Iraqis to Walk in a Show of Unity July 5
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...arch_Will_Go_On
Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr called on all Iraqis to join him in a demonstration of national unity on July 5, publicly confirming in a statement Thursday that his followers would go forward with their plan to march to the twice-bombed Golden Mosque in Samarra to mark the birth of the Prophet..
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:49 pm | #

Again I ask you folks, what do we do to insist the bad guys are removed? Taking no for an answer or allowing a change of subject just doesn't seem the answer. Not to me.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:26 pm | #

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My belief is that the ending to "Shooter" and the main method of the book "unintended Consequences" by John Ross is the way to most assuredly get these bastards attention. In the book over 600 F-troop agents and many from other agencies, many Senators are dead when the President changes laws ( bullshit gun laws and tax laws) and declares amnesty.
I think we outnumber them.........
One of the best deaths (staged) is for schumer (had a different almost identical name in the book) is found with several different semen samples in his stomack and rectum, died from overdose of cocaine/heroin shots........hell of a party......
Some of the key points to the book was work alone (or with someone you trust your life to)
Tell no-one what you're up to
if you're caught (as my grandfather would say and does often) KEEP YOUR FUCKIN MOUTH SHUT
aka KYFMS
when enough of these ck suckers have paid for their sins, the rest, as they walk into congressional offices past the hanging ex-congressmen, will begin to do their jobs and live by the oaths they all take..........
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:49 pm | #

Better beleive he will be the next President and we all will ghet rid of that military evil cabal that wants to rule the world.The german dictatorship did not loose ww2 like we all thought. They are still under this big evil agenda.
...... Joe | 06.28.07 - 1:26 pm | #

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yes exactly, the globalist illuminati bastards funded that whole NASI effort, operation paperclip brought the slave killing rocket scientists here to have NASA, and the "social engineers" who's specialties are mind control, brainwashing, and propaganda. these same genocidal exploitative bastards, are in control. they are ALL NAZI's!
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 1:43 pm | #

Point is there shouldn't have been even ONE killed in Vietnam (either side) just like there shouldn't have been even ONE killed in Iraq/Afghanistan (either side) -- because our government flat out lied to us in both cases. We shouldn't have been there.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 1:25 pm | #

Amen brother.

Sorry if I in any way put you on the spot.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:37 pm | #

this page might mess up soon, am seeing double I think.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 1:20 pm | #

Yeah wazzup with the DEJA VU?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:36 pm | #

So what the hell does any of that have to do with IMPEACHMENT OF THE CROOKS running (ruining) our country?

I've got a 4 year college degree, I'm 62 years old, my dog's name is Molly -- anything else you want to know?

You said put the pressure on -- okay fine, how?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:03 pm | #

Hi, j. i'm not 62 but im getting there. The bottom line, well i suppose you hit of a good part of it. Get rid of the parassites running this country. The problem, our elite elected officials in public office have done nothing about the swine, so I include them in this managery. We need to clean house and get back to the business of being America. This will be a task for truthers who are with integrity,courage,tenacity, and those who beleive in our constitution. So, your on the right site.
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chris jones | 06.28.07 - 1:30 pm | #

Ron Paul is for real

Better beleive he will be the next President and we all will ghet rid of that military evil cabal that wants to rule the world.The german dictatorship did not loose ww2 like we all thought. They are still under this big evil agenda.

Prescott Bush and Rockfeller financed Hitler and still are . Bush father in the 90's with the invasion of Iraq, Bush son in 2003 another major crime agains't humanity and look what they are doing to America.

What does is take to awake you and stop denying what is going on.

If terror is scaring you, this is because you let it, even if you keep your heads in the sand you won't escape what they want to do.

May the light follow Ron Paul and protect him so we can change this mad evil cabal and put them away so they cannot harm anymore.

Peace to all humanity who beleive in a world in a loving way and peacefull way.
Joe | 06.28.07 - 1:26 pm | #

Please do not take this in any way as disrespectful as I have not served my country in any way near the sacrifices you have made, but I am very curious if you were ever in combat and put in a position where you were foorced to kill. Feel free to tell me that you do not wish to answer as this is a very personal thing and I hope I am in no way insulting you by asking. I apologize if I am and will never ask again if you tell me not to.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:01 pm |
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My War Story --
Joining the army when I was 17 (a high school drop out at the time) I found myself in Germany -- and otherwise safe. Like many Americans at the time, thinking that war would be a glorious experience -- not thinking of the consequences -- and not thinking that our government would ever lie to any of us // I volunteered to change duty assignments and found myself soon thereafter in Vietnam. The entire country was considered a combat zone and we received 40 or 50 $$ extra each month (I forget now how much exactly) for putting our life on the line, so to speak. I was assigned initially to downtown Saigon City where at that time there was hardly any Americans // that felt strange walking around in the city and seeing only people that might or might not be the enemy (impossible to tell what their patriotic North/South concerns were, obviously). While there living in a hotel, another hotel (Victorial) located across town housing US military was blown up early one morning killing nearly everyone (a hundred or so, I suppose) // I left Saigon after about 6 or 7 months and went to live in a tent along the Bong Song River at a bombed out old French compound called Cat Lai. One morning the infantry company that was co-located with us was attacked while in a truck convoy enroute back to Cat Lai, many soldiers were killed that day and I over heard the General say 'go back and burn the damn village to the ground' // but NO I personally saw no actual, up close and dirty combat -- And for that I am quite happy. I thank God for that. A very close childhood friend of mine died there, as did another soldier-friend that I later helped be assigned to Vietnam -- felt terribly sad about both cases. Of course if you speak to another Vietnam Vet you might very well hear about the hundreds of RVN they killed // it truly all depended upon luck (or lack of it), timing, location and job assignment. The marines; and the infantry, the artillery, and armor units sustained many casualties overall. The Vietnam Memorial (Wall) has many names there for those not so lucky. Point is there shouldn't have been even ONE killed in Vietnam (either side) just like there shouldn't have been even ONE killed in Iraq/Afghanistan (either side) -- because our government flat out lied to us in both cases. We shouldn't have been there.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 1:25 pm | #

The Rockefeller Foundation helped found the German eugenics program and even funded the program that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz.

"Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California Connection," San Fransico Chronicle
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ articl...ING9C2QSKB1.DTL
Gomer Blavatsky | 06.28.07 - 1:22 pm | #

this page might mess up soon, am seeing double I think.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 1:20 pm | #

Imagine.
their is TALK of going against BUSH legaly for his ordering of the domestic survelance, WOW.
Arent they couragous. They let him have his wars, murder by the hundred of thousands after his invasion, simply forget about the lies and deceptions of WMD's in Iraq, forget we are bankrupt, forget we are in a war debt of 700Billion, forget 750,000 innocents have been killed, forget habeus corpus was deleted from our constitution, and they have the tanacity to shuffle papers about domestic survelance, boy havent we got some real Political Heroes now.. running this country. Anybody think he will not walk on this, think again. This creature and his mate Cheney can do anything they want to us, thewy are war criminals, comitted crimes against humanity, invaded a soveriegn nation based on lies and now they want him for diddle, and they wont get near him. Well they got some new, some names in the papers, maby a photo or two, so it appears these jokers got what they wanted.
It is without a doubt HUMAN SACRIFICE and we the people know it. Blood for money. And let us not forget the billions missing that was suppose to have gone to IRAQ, just up and disapeared.
They are traitors, and need to be held accountable, if not, if this is how low we have sunk, America has taken its last breath.
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 1:12 pm | #

Report: Pentagon Can't Account For $19 Billion Spent On Iraqi Forces

This is another reason the Browns are right in there fight with income tax none law.

The people have been robbed for long enough paying income taxes.Look what they do with the money 19 miilion unaccounted for, a real fraud.

imagine what we do not know about what they do with our income tax money

There is no law to pay income taxes.
The Browns are right in this. People wake up this income tax is a fraud.

and the people who take jobs as police in these days and serve the evil cabal are wrong .
Your abuse as a police officer is wrong just like what tthe IRS is trying to pull on the Browns.

People of earth time to unite agains't this evil criminal cabal. THe police states they are trying to impose must not be permitted to be . This is abuse by power trip fanaticts that think they have the right to arrest innocent people because they have a badge .

There still are good police people and they must stand agains't this evil just like the senetors who won't stand there grounds agains't the Bush administration.

People Evil is evil and the power trip to dominate people by force is the wrong way.

The right way is the laws of spiritual and Universal nothing else.

Time is here we still have 5 years before 2012 to get our acts together building a peacefull world in a loving spirituality.Those who keep vibrating in the low frequencies will remain in this ending 3rd dimensionnal world.

Disclosure of the ET'S our cousins is near

Denial cannot save you

Humanity has got itself in this mess because we have left the cabal disconnect our minds from our souls with the capitalist materialistic world and greed and selfishness.

We all know 911 show guilt of people evil people that are behind the madness we are going through.

it's the evil cabal that control this world and Bushes and Clintons are the puppets, in America and the rest of the countries governments it's the same thing. Builderbergs, Rockfelars, and Rothchilds and who ever is part of this evil cabal.

Consciousness awareness time to face the truth and the right ways to live wich are the spiritual ways and Universal ways.

May the light guide your journeys in a safe and loving way.

Fanatism only limits your capacities to figure out the truth. Discern what is going on. Much more than what the mainstream and tv are telling you.

The truth isn't what it seems to be or what the cabal mainstream media want you to beleive.

So be wise people and you can think for yourself and know what is right and what is wrong.

Peace and Love
Joe | 06.28.07 - 1:09 pm | #

Ladies and Gentlemen,officers of liberty,the future
of whats left of America is dependent on the LORD and His mercy, I think we may be given places of refuge but only by the Holy Spirits literally telling us where to go,when to stop etc,
think about it~~and plu-ese tell me what you other bible readers think
Patrick | 06.28.07 - 12:03 am | #

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One of my old theories, that I haven't spoken in years, is that the more evil in an area, the more destruction there will be,i.e. Washington DC, large cities, centers of manufacturing and military.......conversely, the less evil/the more natural environment/ecology, the less destruction. In other words if you can disappear into a great National forest and live off the land without being eaten by a bear, hunted down by UN trrops for trespassing, this would be good for survival, bearing in mind I recommend being underground..........
But yes, people are having dreams of areas surrounded by fire, that remain untouched. Follow your heart, that little voice, the Holy Spirit, you will find your way, if you are good and it is God's will..........otherwise hope yo're young, fertile and smart/pretty and I take you along.....or your weapons talents make you valuable enough to tolerate your shortcomings......
Michael D. | 06.28.07 - 1:08 pm | #

get a look at little (youngin!) luke redowski, is BRILLIANT at confronting these dogs, camera rolling and putting it online with www.wearechange.org yeah he's taking big risks and gets into some trouble for it.. he's awesome.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:51 pm | #

It was 2AM one night when I saw the video of him confronting Bryzinfuckhead.

I swear, I cried my eyes out in honor and pride for the young patriots in this country. When I was his age, I could care less about being so courageous.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:04 pm | #

america is rotten to the very core. just the removal of bush and cheney will not solve anything. you have to understand the way your military industrial complex works. america is actually doomed.
bob dole | 06.28.07 - 1:03 pm | #

But this is me calling up memories of long ago and has really NOTHING to do with nothing. Surely got nothing to do with this forum or how we hold our Congress to Impeachment proceedings.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:54 pm | #

Please do not take this in any way as disrespectful as I have not served my country in any way near the sacrifices you have made, but I am very curious if you were ever in combat and put in a position where you were foorced to kill. Feel free to tell me that you do not wish to answer as this is a very personal thing and I hope I am in no way insulting you by asking. I apologize if I am and will never ask again if you tell me not to.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 1:01 pm | #

Many people haven't woken up because they haven't been told.
I still worry though, there's so much to do, and no matter how much I do I feel like I'm doing nothing, and some people, older friends, find this stuff crazy, making me start feeling crazy feeling wrong.
mr.x | 06.28.07 - 12:34 pm | #

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Mr. x, thanks for your honesty, and Im happy to hear that you see the reality of what is happening in this country and globaly.
It is a chalenge of intelect and soul to face the abominations that are occuring and have occured. It is my sincerest hope that others open their eyes.
Thanks
chris jones | 06.28.07 - 12:59 pm | #

Were you ever in country? Where you ever in public affairs?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:33 pm |
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I still don't know what you're getting at -- (in country?) --

As I said somewhere in passing, a total of 26 years active duty with the U.S. Army // 14 years of that was overseas (various places); the remainder of that 26 was right here at various bases in the United States // Fort Bragg, NC; Fort Lee, VA; Fort Benjamin Harrison, IN; Fort Dix, NJ; Fort Leonard Wood, MO; Fort Riley, KS; Fort Ord, CA; and 4 & 1/2 years in Washington, DC. I am sure I have forgotten to mention a base or two.

Overseas: Saigon/Cat Lai (Vietnam); Baumholder, Finthen Army Airfield, Buedingen, and Heidelberg (all Germany assignments).

While I was (in country?) at Fort Ord, CA -- I attended a 47 week Department of Defense Language Course and learned how to read, write, and speak Japanese // Never was assigned to Japan, but that's how screwed up the army can be at times. All that good training and then never assign a person to where they can use it.

My primary occupational speciality (75Z5HLA3) was in the Career Field of Administration -- where in I was fortunate enough to advance to some of the highest job assignments available for enlisted personnel. For a year or two I was the only enlisted soldier in the entire army making (deciding) worldwide enlisted airborne assignments. But you see, being in Administration, I was assigned to many different types of units // for example: Medical, Engineer, Transportation (both boat and aviation) Major Training Institutes -- to name but a few. All types of units require support skills -- gotta have that pay, those promotions, vacations, duty location assignments, etc (that's the kind of thing involving combat support jobs).

No, never was in Public Affairs --

But this is me calling up memories of long ago and has really NOTHING to do with nothing. Surely got nothing to do with this forum or how we hold our Congress to Impeachment proceedings.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:54 pm | #

>>>>Bush just admitted defeat on a live Press Conference!!!

He then shifted to healthcare saying it is shambles and that budgets need to be balanced?!?!?!?!

He is the biggest cause of both of these problems!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:47 pm | #

Again I ask you folks, what do we do to insist the bad guys are removed? Taking no for an answer or allowing a change of subject just doesn't seem the answer. Not to me.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:26 pm | #

I cannot argue with the importance of impeachment. But it will not happen by yelling "impeach"

It will happen by confronting them where it gets their attention, here is an example:

Senator Byrd,why are not demanding impeachment iimpeachment? Is it because you are afraid of backlash of your KKK past or your raping of project monarch children in your congressional office in the 1980's? Could you please tell your constituents which of these past skeletons you are most fearful of?

_________________

You know Reality based questioning.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:41 pm | #

Don't worry about the past, push forward for Ron Paul; we'll pull the carpet out from under the crooks and murderers !
Gator | 06.28.07 - 12:38 pm | #

what is happening? I spend so much time now studying history--what we didn't even get close to in high school, what we didn't cover in college. I mean, I'm understanding what is happening right now so much better by this, but I still have intense questions about "reality." Obviously I need to study more, infer more, but really, there has been a cycle of elite becoming super kings, pushing to be called "gods," killing off so many millions of people, war with the lower classes, and blow out the civilization. Then those `elite' move to a new country where their cousins or whatever have set it up, and they start over...I really worry because people don't know these things, they don't, on average, know history. they don't know that any society, especially one with liberties like America, is going to be pushed on by these people, they're going to take hold of key positions so they can get kids to take medicines that make them twice as likely to have certain diseases, I mean--talk about any issue to anyone. Anyone, pizza guy, principle, girlfriends' mothers...somebody doesn't like taxes talk about that and move into fed rsv., don't like tickets, tell them every cop makes $300 grand for a city...for real, everybody is affected, if you reference it people can't stay unaffected...people have to realize if it is brought up. Many people haven't woken up because they haven't been told.
I still worry though, there's so much to do, and no matter how much I do I feel like I'm doing nothing, and some people, older friends, find this stuff crazy, making me start feeling crazy feeling wrong.
mr.x | 06.28.07 - 12:34 pm | #

Adjudant General Corp:
Branch Type: Combat Service Support
http://www.us-army-info.com/page...t/ adjutant.html
Birthday: The post of Adjutant General was established June 16th, 1775, and has been continuously in operation since that time. The Adjutant General's Department, by that name, was established by the act of 3 March 1813 and was redesignated the Adjutant General's Corps in 1950.

Mission Statement: To train leaders and soldiers in providing personnel service support for the Army of today and the 21st century through excellence in doctrine, leader development, organization, material, and soldiers.

Branch Type: Combat Service Support

Birthday: The post of Adjutant General was established June 16th, 1775, and has been continuously in operation since that time. The Adjutant General's Department, by that name, was established by the act of 3 March 1813 and was redesignated the Adjutant General's Corps in 1950.

Mission Statement: To train leaders and soldiers in providing personnel service support for the Army of today and the 21st century through excellence in doctrine, leader development, organization, material, and soldiers.

Career Management Fields:
Public Affairs
Administration
Chaplain Assistant
Personnel
Recruiting/Retention
Band
______________________
Were you ever in country? Where you ever in public affairs?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:33 pm | #

simple and cheap, make stencils.
one saying "BUSH" one saying "CHENEY"...
and attack stopsigns allover town with a spraycan. "they" sure hated www.infowars.com being painted on the side of a public building.. using paper plates on telephone poles would get a person in just as much trouble anyway if caught stapling them there. posting infowars and prison planet addies into chatrooms another way to get some people to start reading. when I stumble across a site with a petition that allows me to type stuff I let it fly, same for letters to representatives. I dont threaten, but tell them what I see as disgusting and traitorous. planting mental seeds where we can is working.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:30 pm | #

Okay, that's all fine and good. I do some of that myself. Got lots of people looking at me strange (family and friends) for my beliefs as regards 9/11 -- so what -- it seems truly not enough.

We should hold that Democratic Congress to their word about IMPEACHMENT and not allow them to come back after they've been elected and say 'impeachment is off the table' -- bullshit it is. It needs to be priority number f-ing one.

I think.

Toot your own horn all you like, forum friend, but come to understand there are many of us doing all we can as learning the truths // but learning is certainly not enough. Sure it will come in handy during election time (if we truly ever get to a new election) but IMPEACHMENT seems to me to be a fix all for what's wrong in our country.

And I must fix something: typos.

I was a Master Sergeant (E- when I retired from the army; and I'm 61, not 62 -- I got so damn angry in responding to you that my fingers took on a life of their own.

All the stuff you post is fine and dandy but it really doesn't fix one damn thing that's wrong in this mess we wake up to each morning (that's getting worse each day). Hold our Congress to IMPEACHMENT -- and only that -- seems like the true path to a fix all.

Change the subject, get it lost in the myriad of not so relatively important subjects, in comparison -- and serve those that would have us forget about impeachment. That's how I think we need to fix things // but I'm not one of those smart guys I call out for HELP.

Again I ask you folks, what do we do to insist the bad guys are removed? Taking no for an answer or allowing a change of subject just doesn't seem the answer. Not to me.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:26 pm | #

I am very sure that all of the laws of no touching, no unions without large percentage voting [leads to fake leaders], lock your doors, do not let kids play anywhere, etc. are designed so that we do not deal with each other human to human. I think this is NWO's greatest fear. Dude we are 300 Million people, they are like 50,000 [I am being OVERLY generous]. This is nuts. Just do not stop talking about it. They will at first call you crazy, spit on you, hang up phones and never wish to speak to you again.

This has been designed by NWO. Slowly as things get worse they will be the ones calling you for information and how to get it. Set up local screenings of Loose Change, others.

Use neighborhoods for what they are meant for.

Usually you can find a construction person around. Show him Building 7, their is no doubt.

This shit filters up, believe me. You know how timid congress is. They are scared of their own shadow. When they hear that everyone knows about their kickbacks, corruption, complacency in watching the constitution burn, etc. they fall into line for their constituents. FOr they know if they do not, all of the NWO plans will go up in smoke.

In addition, just for survival it is essential that you talk with everyone about what false flag terrorism is so that they will know it when it happens again and we do not wait 5 years, we will demand truth in 5 days! This is our best protection against terrorism.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:25 pm | #

You said put the pressure on -- okay fine, how?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:03 pm | #
____________________________

Well there are many methods I would imagine you would know better than me, but here are my suggestions....

#1. Let no lie go unchallenged! We are bombarded with lies all day long and it has warped our entire sense of reality. 99% of MSM, 90% of C-SPAN, and 75% of most internet news sources.

This leads to conversations based on lies throughout our community.

The shopping center, the bus trip, even telemarketers are opportunities to drop truth whispers and actually change the nation's conversation. The congress and their families feel it, believe me. Drop these whispers of truth everywhere.

For example, everyone is complaining today about something....show them what the source of the issues are...

When I was on line at a pharmacy, the person in front of me was giving the pharmacist a hard time because of price/quantity, etc.

I just pointed out that since Bush got $1 million on the pharma medicare kickback scam, he can expect to pay even more and since our coffers are growing by a trillion a month due to foreign policy he can expect it to get worse.

Dude, the whole drugstore almost started applauding, wtf.

Truth cuts through the matrix like a hot knife through butter.

I love talking to telemarketers...

Do you currently get the LA Times....

Why should I they never talk about how Cheney blew up the World Trade Center. I mean why should I support a CIA front group?

I am pissed that my tax money is being spent recruiting all of the LA Times journalists and are also going to fund the illegal wiretaping of this conversation.

I get a multitude of responses for this "ass-wipe" behavior, but it is necessary that we bring people to reality. Do not let complacency and head in sand attitudes continue.

Call everyone on the fog of BS we are being enslaved to lives in for generations.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:15 pm | #

"However, some members of London's Arab community believe he might have committed suicide after he was diagnosed with a serious illness."

yeah sure, he committed suicide as he walked in the door...who rewrites this shit?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 12:03 pm | #

I retired as a Masrer Sergeant, U.S. Army, Adjutant General Corps (second oldest branch in the military -- the first being infantry) // spent 14 years overseas, was an instructor, was a force management NCO, worked at HQDA in Washington, DC, worked at HQ Europe --

So what the hell does any of that have to do with IMPEACHMENT OF THE CROOKS running (ruining) our country?

I've got a 4 year college degree, I'm 62 years old, my dog's name is Molly -- anything else you want to know?

You said put the pressure on -- okay fine, how?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 12:03 pm | #

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ pages...in_page_id=1811

and another one gone, another one gone, another one bites the dust..
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 12:00 pm | #

Yes I was ass-wipe. What's your dumbass point now? You tell us smart guy HOW (??) to fix this mess short of demanding impeachment of the ones causing our problem. TELL US.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 11:58 am | #
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You were in country? Army, marines, infantry?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:59 am | #

>>>>>Bush suffers major defeat: immigration reform bill blocked in Senate
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ma..._bill_0628.html
President Bush suffered a major defeat Thursday as the immigration reform bill was defeated in the Senate. Although there had been strong conservative opposition to the bill, the president had been pushing for it hard the last few weeks.

"The Senate drove a stake Thursday through President Bush's plan to legalize millions of unlawful immigrants, likely postponing major action
Bush, seeking to salvage the biggest domestic initiative of his final two years in office, called senators earlier in the morning seeking help.

However, supporters needed 60 votes in the 100-member Senate to keep the bill alive. Aligned against it were conservatives who derided the legislation as a grant of amnesty for illegal behavior and some Democrats who said it would leave a new group of temporary workers vulnerable to exploitation.

Supporters pointed to the bill's tougher border security and workplace enforcement measures, along with an immediate infusion of $4.4 billion to pay for them, as reasons to keep the bill alive for a final vote Friday.

The carefully crafted compromise was left for dead after a similar vote three weeks ago but was revived by Bush and Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, who gave opponents more chances to change it.
___________________________

This is just one of the many differences we make!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:58 am | #

How do we do it. There must be some truly smart people out there in this land of ours -- How???????????????????????????
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 11:51 am | #

You served in Vietnam and were in the armed services for 26 years?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:55 am
__________________
Yes I was ass-wipe. What's your dumbass point now? You tell us smart guy HOW (??) to fix this mess short of demanding impeachment of the ones causing our problem. TELL US.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 11:58 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...kateboarder.htm

surprised the kid didnt bash the cops head in with a skateboard truck for seeing the bully choking his friend.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:53 am | #

>>>>>>>>>FTC: Net neutrality is unnecessary
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/...not- needed.html
The Federal Trade Commission today dealt a serious blow to "Net Neutrality" proponents as it issued a report dismissive of claims that the government needs to get involved in preserving the fairness of networks in the United States.
FCC forces rural phone companies to carry VoIP traffic
Analysis: Google's net neutrality position leaves unanswered questions
GAO report finds little competition, higher prices in deregulated markets
Net Neutrality: Craig-listing the issue

The report, entitled "Broadband Connectivity Competition Policy," was drafted in response to growing concerns about broadband competitiveness and network neutrality. The FTC intends the report to be consulted as a guideline by policy makers and legislators, but it has no binding force. Nevertheless, the report's findings are yet another sign that US government agencies are not particularly interested in the network neutrality problem right now. In fact, the FTC is essentially saying that they can find no evidence of a problem to begin with.

In a statement, Chairman Deborah Platt Majoras said, "This report recommends that policy makers proceed with caution in the evolving, dynamic industry of broadband Internet access, which generally is moving toward more - not less - competition. In the absence of significant market failure or demonstrated consumer harm, policy makers should be particularly hesitant to enact new regulation in this area."

The "hands-off" approach is the approach preferred by the telecoms, who will also be delighted that Chairman Majoras cleared them of any wrong-doing in their network management so far. Nevertheless, the FTC says that it will continue to monitor the situation, as will the FCC and DOJ. Perhaps more encouraging for proponents of such legislation, the FTC says that increased awareness of the debate will help them with monitoring the need for government regulation.

"As a byproduct of the ongoing debate over network neutrality regulation, the agencies have a heightened awareness of the potential consumer harms from certain conduct by, and business arrangements involving, broadband providers," the report states. "Perhaps equally important, many consumers are now aware of such issues. Consumers—particularly online consumers—have a powerful collective voice. In the area of broadband Internet access, they have revealed a strong preference for the current open access to Internet content and applications."

Indeed, while this appears to be another victory for the opponents of net neutrality, the language of the report suggests that should something more fishy arise, the FTC will be watching. In particular, the report says that the FTC will be watching a set of particular questions closely:
How much demand will there be from content and applications providers for data prioritization?
Will effective data prioritization, throughout the many networks comprising the Internet, be feasible?
Would allowing broadband providers to practice data prioritization necessarily result in the degradation of non-prioritized data delivery?
When will the capacity limitations of the networks comprising the Internet result in unmanageable or unacceptable levels of congestion?
If that point is reached, what will be the most efficient response thereto: data prioritization, capacity increases, a combination of these, or some as yet unknown technological innovation?

As you can see, these are all very fundamental questions, and indeed the answer to all of them involves a giant helping of "wait and see."

Further reading:
FTC Report (PDF)
http://www.ftc.gov/reports/ broad...70000report.pdf
FTC Statement
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/06/b.../ broadband.shtm
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:53 am | #

Keep the pressure on, we make a difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:44 am
________________________
I'd like to think that is true, but I'm not so sure.

What are any one of us doing to put that pressure on? I know who I intend to vote for come 2008 BUT that sure doesn't fix the mess right now. There was much talk about IMPEACHMENT before the Democrats got hold of the Congress// Well, they're there now and NO IMPEACHMENT.

That's where our pressure needs to be applied. Uniform steady pressure to get rid of the problem children first. Fix that, first. Nothing else is more important than first things FIRST.

Anyone got any good honest suggestions as to how to enforce IMPEACHMENT of all the gangsters in control of us? What difference can we make if those in control remain in control? None. Postponements, further lies -- that's about it. Get rid of the problem and the problem is no more. IMPEACH the bastards!!

How do we do it. There must be some truly smart people out there in this land of ours -- How???????????????????????????
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 11:51 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...kateboarder.htm

this story is outright disgusting, if the kids own PARENT did something like this theyed be jailed immediately, and the mayor calling this officer one of the cities 100 finest ?!!
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:50 am | #

what I find amazing is that members of congress or military havent hauled MANY people in DC away in chains, including bush, cheney, rumsfeld, rice, gonzalez, and all their appointees.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:40 am | #
+++++++++++++++++++++

Keep the pressure on, we make a difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:44 am | #

I missed yesterdays show

http://globalplantation.org/aj_radio/

for download, right click "save target as"
.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:43 am | #

Sane, you beat me to the immigration bill being blocked! That's okay though, it's great news.
Scanner | 06.28.07 - 11:39 am | #

RFID / AMNESTY BILL BLOCKED IN SENATE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course it will pop up again. We need to keep the heat on until at least July 4th!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:36 am | #

Sorry...against continuing debate!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:35 am | #

Immigration Bill pulled by Reid after vote of 53-46 AGAINST continuing debate!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:34 am | #

Tony Blair Is the Wrong Man for the Job
Bringing peace to the Middle East is a noble goal, but he wants to do too much.
By Shmuel Rosner
Posted Wednesday, June 27, 2007, at 5:18 PM ET
http://www.slate.com/id/2169291/...69291/nav/tap3/

It was a sunny day in London, and newly elected Prime Minister Tony Blair was sharing a press conference with his American friend and mentor President Bill Clinton. The future of progressivism was the topic of the day, and the two leaders bathed each other in compliments. "This is the generation that prefers reason to doctrine," explained the Brit. It is a generation "strong in ideals but indifferent to ideology, whose instinct is to judge government not on grand designs but by practical results."

With all the end-of-era commentary about Blair's relationship with President George W. Bush—"It was the last time they played Christopher Robin and Pooh," joked Conan O'Brien after their final Rose Garden press conference—it's easy to forget the Clinton-esque air of Blair's first years in office. But now, with the so-called international quartet—the United States, Russia, European Union, and United Nations—making Blair its special peace envoy to the Middle East, it seems that Blair is about to wrap up his tenure as he started it: the Clinton way. That is, by failing to achieve the "practical results" he praised on that sunny day at 10 Downing Street.

Like Clinton, who also dedicated his last days in office to the momentous task of bringing peace to the Holy Land, Blair was not shy about the goals he would like to achieve: "The only way of bringing stability and peace to the Middle East is a two-state solution, which means a state of Israel that is secure and confident in its security and a Palestinian state that is not merely viable in terms of its territory, but in terms of its institutions and government," he said. "I believe it is possible to do that, but it will require a huge intensity of focus and work."
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:31 am | #

Impeach Cheney
The vice president has run utterly amok and must be stopped.
By Bruce Fein
Posted Wednesday, June 27, 2007, at 5:06 PM ET
http://www.slate.com/id/2169292/...69292/nav/tap1/
Under Dick Cheney, the office of the vice president has been transformed from a tiny acorn into an unprecedented giant oak. In grasping and exercising presidential powers, Cheney has dulled political accountability and concocted theories for evading the law and Constitution that would have embarrassed King George III. The most recent invention we know of is the vice president's insistence that an executive order governing the handling of classified information in the executive branch does not reach his office because he also serves as president of the Senate. In other words, the vice president is a unique legislative-executive creature standing above and beyond the Constitution. The House judiciary committee should commence an impeachment inquiry. As Alexander Hamilton advised in the Federalist Papers, an impeachable offense is a political crime against the nation. Cheney's multiple crimes against the Constitution clearly qualify.

Take the vice president's preposterous theory that his office is outside the executive branch because it also exercises a legislative function. The same can be said of the president, who also exercises a legislative function in signing or vetoing bills passed by Congress. Under Cheney's bizarre reasoning, President Bush is not part of his own administration: The executive branch becomes acephalous. Today Cheney Chief of Staff David Addington refused to renounce that reasoning, instead laughably trying to diminish the importance of the legal question at issue.

The nation's first vice president, John Adams, bemoaned: "My country has in its wisdom contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived; and as I can do neither good nor evil, I must be borne away by others and meet common fate." Vice President John Nance Garner, serving under President Franklin D. Roosevelt, lamented: "The vice presidency isn't worth a pitcher of warm piss." In modern times, vice presidents have generally been confined to attending state funerals or to distributing blankets after earthquakes.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:30 am | #

aww, but cheney wants his agua-negro mercenaries too (the MF!!)
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:30 am | #

The immigration thing -- just watching it again on C-SPAN // those that want it so very bad // those that are telling their partners in the Senate how absolutely wrong this is -- same old stuff, over and over, no matter what the subject.

Look, Mexico has been hanging around down there under these United States for many a year now -- and we've had an influx of people coming here (in the millions, of course, no question) BUT the problem is one to easily fix -- those people are coming here because of the job that pay better than in their own country. The jobs, that's what's bringing them here -- stop those jobs -- stop those greedy people from hiring illegals and they won't have jobs, plain and simple.

But our government won't do that (a little here, a little more there) because our government wants to destroy our country as we know it. It's a very simple concept -- our government won't do anything about our borders or stopping those jobs because our government wants a blend of our two countries. That makes for more slaves in the over all. Give them what we got and they become cannon fodder to help fight our continuing wars. Wars aren't going away, they may even escalate. Most likely will; right now we use those low paying job to attract the people here; I believe the plan is to absorb them so they will do our fighting and dying right alongside those people that will lose their identify as former American citizens. All part of a New World Order where the ones in control now get even more control. People (regardless of where they now live) don't mean anything to those that are in control. Keep our troops away from our shores (here in the United States) tangled up in an unjust war (which we have no business being involved in anyway) and that makes it even easier to lose control over those borders. The borders are non-existent because our government wants it that way. If not they would be speaking with ONE VOICE to fix the flow and get our troops home to protect our homeland. They're not doing that for a reason, folks. Fight them over there (which is an absolute stupid concept -- but many sheep believe it regardless, as if they are going to come running to our shores to fight us all the way from across that vast ocean that serves as a natural border/barrier) -- a flat out lie, the government just wants to keep our troops away from where they are truly needed // right here in 'River City' defending our land, ensuring our continued freedoms and democracy. Our President thinks he's the President of Iraq more than the place he should be thinking about -- The United States of America.

Bush started the wheels in motion the first week he was 'made' our President -- that same week he spent time in Mexico with President Fox (Mexico) discussing the days ahead. It was all over that TV we watch entirely way too much but never seem to learn anything from it in the process.

People wanting to come to this land for a better life is not a new concept // that's what our land was founded upon -- and should continue to be. But this allowing change on purpose and calling it something else -- THAT'S TREASON.

We need to unite to IMPEACH the lot of them and then get things back on track once the obstacles have been removed. This is our country, our land, and we need to stand and fight for it -- not some other place thousands of miles away.

Demand IMPEACHMENT and get those liars out of office and into jail cells where they belong.

Vote Ron Paul 2008 but INSIST on changing things right now. 2008 is a long ways away // just like Iraq.

I feel a bit better after unloading all that on you guys. Sorry but I feel there is truth in it.

We've got to fix the first problem before we can fix the next. The first should be IMPEACH those crooks. All else should fall neatly into place.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 11:26 am | #

US Commanders In Iraq: We Expect Congress Will Impose Timeline For Withdrawal
http://www.latimes.com/news/nati...ack=8& cset=true
Outgoing Bush Counselor Bartlett: "If There Was Ever A Do-Over, [Mission Accomplished] Would Be It"
http://men.style.com/gq/ features...id=content_5737
Ann Coulter Loses It On "Morning Joe"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...n- _n_54129.html
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:25 am | #

repost from yesterday

part 1

Mainstream Media, the so called "NEWS" owned by a small handfull of corporations, omits the truth and lies to the people.
this is WHY there is a truth movement going strong online.

this is also WHY the corporations are lobbying to regulate the internet, "THEY" the corporations and the government that serves THEM, do not want the people informed with the TRUTH.

when the corporations have more influence over the government than the people, this is known as fascism.
when the news doesnt tell people the truth..
this is known as mind controlling propaganda.

look to the results of the polls, people know whats going on.
We The People, are NOT happy with this situation and the induviduals that are supposed to be representing US.

the US military is being dismantled and the UN military is being beefed up. Halliburton/KBR/Blackwater mercenary troops in the middle east are 1/3 of the forces over there, doing things our own military are forbidden to do, and making things far more dangerous for the LEGITEMATE armed forces who are there fighting because of corporate GREED, not "freedom".

all of OUR infrastructure is being sold to foreign interests, the roadways, water companies, utilities, and more. corporate welfare (3x what the people ever get) granted to companies to leave the country, to leave people HERE unemployed, is definitely unAmerican and outright treasonous. the politicians selling public property as if it were theirs personally!

THESE THINGS are why "the corporate government" wants to control the internet, so "they" can keep getting rich as they turn what was a free country into even MORE a fascist slave state than it already is. ALL the "LAWS" need to be reviewed, and anything against the constitution needs to be tossed.

I'm not the only one who understands how all this came about, this serfdom and slavery MESS.. all the courtrooms are flying a MARITIME LAW FLAG with the GOLD FRINGE, because a baby comes from the MOTHERS WATER ... through the BIRTH CANAL and into this country by way of a PORTMASTER who issues the receipt known as a birth certificate, so we are regarded as property, not citizens!! its LAWYERSPEAK !!

it's all the same reasons there was a revolution here for independance some 230 years ago, and actually a whole lot worse than what KING GEORGE was demanding back then.
if it comes to that I hope it is peaceful, the other way is ugly.
(and probably more likely)

Halliburton/KBR/Blackwater has some 800 FEMA CAMPS built and waiting that can hold maybe 20 million people, is the truth the media will not tell us, this wouldnt remind me of NAZI GERMANY at all (yeah right) and was all no-bid contracted by DICK CHENEY, former CEO of Halliburton, which has just moved to DUBAI.. near to Middle East OIL for some reason.

and were supposed to live in fear of "the terrorists" while we give up all our freedoms, as the southern border is wide open with 30 odd million illegal residents are here making demands!
(we already HAVE good immigration and naturalization laws)
the Mexican government is a corporate fascist state that is crying about people from there, can come here and purchase weapons too easily, that the US needs tougher gun control laws.
-which is only because the people there DO resist the tyranny.
I honestly feel as bad for the people there as the people here, the only difference being people here are far more unaware of the fascisms for having their heads in the sand, much of this is for the controlled news media, but the truth IS getting out and is unstoppable. choices will be made, procrastinated of course.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:17 am | #

theres another point we could allways drop or current cash for other contires money, ppl do that alot now aday but the exchange is a bitch sometimes, but if you say chain out to Yin you could still use american banking for transactions but the money flow wouldn't be there for the ill to gain
whocares | 06.28.07 - 11:16 am | #

repost from yesterday

part 2

I wouldnt know if you are a "good guy" or a "bad guy" regarding this New World Order.. one world government all controlled by corporate interests, all I know is global slavery and serfdom is NOT a good thing, Hitler tried it, he was funded by globalist "elite" bankers.. prescott bush was one of them.
(theres a TON more dirt on that BUSH FAMILY, skull and bones, bohemian grove, rockefellers, rothschilds, black nobility, etc.)
I also know serving these types of masters is a one way ticket to hell, history repeats itself and these plans ALWAYS fail!

(sidenote: operation paperclip after WW2 was to bring slave killing rocket scientists to the US so we could have NASA, and also "social engineers" who's specialties are mind control and propaganda. during WW2, wealthier 'jews' were about extorted to be able to leave germany, the only destination allowed was what is now known as ISREAL, where they had total control. the "STATE of ISREAL" has seats in congress and lobbyists from hell.. keep this NAZI connection in mind.)

the use of Depleted Uranium munitions in the middle east is scorched earth inhuman genocidal crimes against humanity, this only proves the "war" there is about the OIL, not for us to have and use it, but to keep it in the ground creating an artificial shortage to keep prices UP, no one gonna want to work the derricks there to glow in the dark and die of radiation poisoning to make someone else richer, period.

this "business as usual" has to stop sometime, and I really dont think the solution is instigating world war three (or four as the "elite" call it because the 3rd one is the economic warfare that is going on right now) and this "New World Order" junk is only more of the same, "business as usual". I know the plan is to wipe out some 90% of the global population and control what's left.. and all of it NAZI/FASCIST style with its alphabet soup of FBI CIA NSA KGB SS EU NAU UN etc etc. and its wrong!

http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanm.../ stanmeyer.html
-get a look at this, he was murdered for it.

the whole New World Order / Illuminati motto is order out of chaos.. create the chaos and create order by force.
problem>reaction>solution
create the problem, wait for the alarms, offer up a horrible solution, and one a LITTLE more reasonable to watch people reach for the "lesser evil". we understand this bad game.

GHW BUSH, was CIA and in charge of Air America (private like Blackwater) trading weapons for opium in korea and vietnam.
BUSH later as vice president under Reagan, oliver north and noriega trading cocaine for weapons... (with billyboy clinton taking cocaine shipments into MENA ARKANSAS, and HILLARY's ROSE LAW FIRM setting up TYSON CHICKEN as a big money laundering operation for it all..) john hinkley shoots Reagan, (coincidentally the hinkley family is friends of the bush family) then NANCY gets on the podium with the "JUST SAY NO" campaign .. tell the kiddies NO and turn youre back they reach right for it, this was advertizing the drugs because SOMEBODY had a LOT to get rid of. cocaine and amphetamine users will lie cheat and steal from friends and family to support their habit .. oh we need more police and more jails!! .. then the taxpayer funds em and they get "privatized", sold to a corporation. violent offenders are caught and released to keep pressure on the populace and more demand for "law enforcement" while the non violent are put to a workee-workee program.. inmate slavewaged to the corporations, while the taxpayers pay 50-60,000 a year per inmate for them to be there. inmates booking flights for TWA, telemarketing, PC troubleshooting for billy gates, etc etc.
- as the police state grows by leaps and bounds -
-this "war on drugs" is a farce allright-

(sidenote: they urinalyze for drugs but cocaine and amphetamines leave a persons system in 24-36 hours, but someone who might smoke a little pot.. it stays 30+ days detectable.. and these people are far less harmful than any powderhead.. they dont freak out stealing for not having pot. its the differences in the way these drugs affect the minds of the users! someone on powders is dangerous for always rushing in whatever they do when "UP", and always dangerously slacking when "DOWN", they call in sick when down too. they use a lot of alcohol to come down typically.
-and for burning the candle at both ends, they wont reach retirement age for social security, they have a lot of medical problems for the use/abuse, which is good for the medical and insurance industries. most non-violent offenders in lockup are pot heads. the insurance corporations and the AMA have made it so the better workers are more likely to be unemployed and locked up. it all works out well for "the unproductive police state")

the trouble with this, police, lawyers, judges, insurance corporations .. ARE NOT PRODUCTIVE, the do NOT produce goods for sale and profit, they are just an expense to the people. since the creation of the (non)federal reserve and going off the gold and silver backed monetary system, our WORTH was based on our productive capacity.. look at what these "free trade agreements" and "corporate welfares" have done to OUR WORTH. insurance companies make bank off the FEAR of WHAT IF.. and if something DOES happen they try to weasel out of making payment on a claim. and right now the president and vice president have declared themselves totally ABOVE THE LAW, any law. go figger.

exactly how much really treasonous manipulations do "these people in charge" think they can get away with, without everyone seeing it for what it is?

then theres 9-11-2001 with "terrorist arabs carrying box cutters" ... NO WAY !!
the buildings columns were precision cut with THERMATE to make them drop at freefall speed, larry silverstein's own words about a decision to "pull it" -controlled demolition takes weeks of preparation. who was in charge of security at the WTC but a BUSH, who's contract ENDED that day! coincidence? NOT!!
meanwhile CHENEY is in a bunker telling the stand down order is still in effect to make sure the planes hit thier targets!

so how much TREASON are "We The People" supposed to put up with?! we know what has gone on and what IS going on, but no one dares take these drug dealing THIEVES out of office. if anything, theyre in on the take, helping it all happen.
GEE THANKS
letter to congressmen thru JBS site.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:15 am | #

tidbit of reality and "federal reserve":
the whole illuminazi game is deceptions and lies, smoke and mirrors, rewriting histories, dumbing down populations to maintain controls. I think it would be fair to use the same "banking game" against them. Japan, England, much of Europe..
never repaid the US for rebuilding them after WW2, they ought to be told "you owe US, with interest for 60 years". my own father was a child slave laborer in a religion owned cannery filling boxcars of food for Europe after WW2, age 9-10 working long hours like an adult doing this, stolen childhood. I know why he is bitter about it.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:13 am | #

Blair quizzed again over corruption probe: report
Published: Thursday June 28, 2007 http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ Bla...n_06282007.html

Former prime minister Tony Blair has been questioned by police a third time over party political corruption allegations, the Press Association news agency said Thursday, quoting unnamed sources.

The "cash for honours" inquiry was launched last year amid claims that political parties had illegally offered seats in the unelected upper House of Lords to financial supporters.

Blair left office Wednesday and was replaced by former finance minister Gordon Brown, who was unveiling his ministerial team as the information about Blair emerged.

He had previously been interviewed twice as a witness and members of his cabinet have also been quizzed. Blair was the first sitting prime minister to be questioned as part of a criminal inquiry.

A spokeswoman for London's Metropolitan Police, which is leading the investigation, told AFP that they were "not prepared to discuss" the report. Blair's representatives were not immediately contactable.

Four people have been arrested during the probe, including two of Blair's closest aides, Lord Michael Levy, who was Labour's chief fundraiser and Middle East envoy, and Ruth Turner, a senior Downing Street official under Blair.

Levy and Turner, plus businessman and Labour Party backer Sir Christopher Evans, remain on bail. They deny any wrong-doing and no-one has been charged in the case.

Police have questioned at least 136 people either as witnesses or suspects and have now handed a 216-page dossier to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), which will decide whether anyone should face criminal proceedings.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:12 am | #

yeah i can agree with the financial slavery part, look at the times, we went from a strate cash society back in the hayday of the slave society, and now we are all slaves to a system that just usese and crrupts the founding idiology that was placed here for a reason, all aspects have been cruppted sense there makeing, the DCA The FCC the ITRS cia fbi blah blah.
whocares | 06.28.07 - 11:11 am | #

RAW STORY CONTINUES TO KICK MAJOR ASS!!

Frank Rich: Bush exists 'in a bubble...insulated from reality'
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Fr...about_0627.html
Showdown: White House won't turn over docs; Leahy accuses Bush of 'Nixonian stonewalling'
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Wh..._over_0628.html
Breaking: Court overturns race-based school admissions...
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Su...sions_0628.html
Economic growth worst in four years
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....y.html%3F.v% 3D6
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 11:11 am | #

yes the (non)Federal (nothing in)Reserve is a private bank/corporation with the rothschilds being a major shareholder. they print money out of nothing and LOAN it to the government charging interest. they've already cleared out fort knox of near all its gold.. it's whole purpose is to create an artificial national deficit that can never be repaid.. financial SLAVERY manipulations.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 11:03 am | #

"The times,
they are a changing"
When the Mexicans start pouring into American
{more so} and begin to flood the U.S. military with an
ever growing hate on for Americans because they still won't welcome all Hispanics with open arms. One has to wonder if they will thank the government for granting them amnesty and the self-elected government hints that it's payback time {people of greed now want triple returns and that includes congress} and start rounding up Americans of all ethnic backgrounds, and allowed to become soldiers of the Order. When the time comes, it's Mexicans who will be used to
point the guns at Mrs. Wilson and her children
and other nationals who dislike
the corrupted government
system and escort them to
the nearest halliburton-
blackwater family camp.
pariah gait | 06.28.07 - 11:00 am | #

that seems to be more benificual way to protest then get maced on the side of the road, just fucking leave..." I will leave, i already have plans on going to mexico when all the mexicans come here, you guys can have them will i chll at my lagoon
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:45 am | #

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I like it, Mexico is complaining that people FROM there can come here and buy GUNS too easily, that the US needs tighter gun control laws. what IF a massive amount of people FROM HERE just moved there, armed to the teeth.. lets see how THEIR GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE respond to "illegal immigration/invasion".. hell, it might even wake up these idiots destroying America in washington DC.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 10:59 am | #

list of senaters home phone numbers and addresses

http://halturnershow.com/ HomeAdd...onSenators.html
americanpeasant | 06.28.07 - 10:58 am | #

sethings, is it true about the micro chip part of this new bill that is comeing out, that would make more sense about them going cashless, although i stated before that this was already a cashless society from way back, do you know that the FR isnt really a gov thing, its a private thing easyly aboloshed ..and can be made illegal
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:56 am | #

pease be with you all, i do really beleave now thast the time of trubbles is starting, we are all liveing in a scary time, anything we can do to provent more attrosities, from being planned and exxicuted will make for a better tomorrow....in the eyes of the creator.
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:52 am | #

I heard that major supermarkets like Albertsons, Safeway, Von's and others are seriously considering doing away with cash at the checkout counter; their info tracking card becomes an inhouse credit card.
bill the cat | 06.28.07 - 8:05 am | #

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the money thing is less an issue than the tracking. it cost billions to implement the "preferred customer cards" put in heavily about 10-11 years ago.. using the card the prices are only a little higher than we were used to. without the cards... bend over! the cards arent necessary for the stores restocking inventory, the cash register scanners take care of this.. what the cards REALLY DO is ID youre purchases to you personally to know what you eat, how much, what color, and how stinky. this information is given to the insurance and medical industry so they know what to prescribe tomorrow for the symptoms of the crap you're eating today. this IS why they have done these things in the first place.
Sees Things | 06.28.07 - 10:50 am | #

sane, also made it a point a few ago, to come up with a humain way of dealing wiwith the problem at, hand...if we all go tell them we are leaveing in masses of millions .. i think they will listen to us
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:43 am | #

here, here these evil people only get there power from the masses, so this is waht i suggest you do.,.to fuck them over so they dont get more money.. you = $$$ to them that is all...a there was a bill passesd awhile back about 2000 that would if you so choose strip your american rights and they send you away, if we all leave they have no power, something to ponder.
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:40 am | #

wow, has anyone heard of them useing DU in the chemtrails acroess american attempting for us to get ready for a nuc attack? that's scarry, and does anyone know wither the amisty bill passes, i called 5 of my congress men to ban it.
whocares | 06.28.07 - 10:37 am | #

Where is she now? I've always thought it was odd that "one of their own" was killed on 9/11. As it is a virtual certainty that Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon, what happened to Mrs. Olson? Is she retired to the Islands? Was she terminally ill and went away to die having performed her part of the program? Was she offed and "put on the plane" as a convenient coverup? Just one more loose end that may unravel someday.
bop | 06.28.07 - 10:30 am | #

US Shielding Culture Minister From Arrest?
South American Contractors Reportedly Barred Iraqi Police From al-Rashind Hotel
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...ter_From_Arrest
Sabah Arar/AFP/Getty
Baghdad, IRAQ: A picture dated 24 June 2007 shows Iraqi Sunni Minister of Culture Asad Kamal al-Hashemi attending a ceremony in Baghdad to honour journalists who were killed in acts of violence in Iraq.
As'ad Kamal al-Hashemi, the culture minister being charged with acts of terrorism for a 2005 attack on Iraqi MP Mithal al-Alusi
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Terrorist does not get prosecuted and civilians get beheaded, WAKE UP!!!!

WE ARE NOT BEING ALLOWED TO WIN!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:13 am | #

Twenty Beheaded Bodies Found South of Baghdad
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...outh_of_Baghdad
All Those Killed Men in Civilian Clothes with Their Hands and Legs Bound
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We need to get the fuck out of there NOW!!!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 10:11 am | #

Here's an interesting article for you out there still interested in 9/11 truths vs. the many lies that continue:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ amr...amrarticle.html

Mr. Olson saying (after changing his story back and forth between seatback telephone and cell phone) claims his wife used the seatback telephone and called him collect BECAUSE she didn't have her credit card // doesn't make any sense since a credit card is necessary to activate the telephone in the first place.

What's this all about? Him getting caught in a BIG LIE, maybe.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 10:01 am | #

How to condition our children to a false flag terror attack so that they are tricked into obeying officials into getting a train ride to a Halliburton Death Camp. Use the Joe Camel method-ccol things like trading cards:
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Sick Idea: CDC Hands Out Disease Trading Cards - News Story - WSB ...They might not replace baseball trading cards as a hobby, but the Centers for Disease Control says sick trading cards are amazingly popular. It’s CDC’s way ...
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/135817...792/ detail.html
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:57 am | #

An entire class bullies a student when teacher leaves (video)
http://www.liveleak.com/view? i=0...=07b_1177957276
Poor kid.

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This is on purpose. Kids are being encouraged to practice bullying and kids who snitch, act smart are squashed. The bullies get minimal official reprimand and are put on a higher platform socially.

The activities in today's schools show much of the sociaty to come.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:51 am | #

This Planet Ain't Big Enough For The 6,500,000,000 Of Us
http:// www.belfasttelegraph.co.u...icle2715156.ece
Behind the climate crisis lies a global issue that no one wants to tackle: do we need radical plans to reduce the world's population? Chris Rapley sparks the debate

Anti-DRM Activists Take On the BBC
http://yro.slashdot.org/article....7/06/09/ 1454234
"Activists from Binary Freedom Boston have launched a campaign calling on the BBC to release their content online without DRM or proprietary formats. You might remember the BBC asking us about this earlier and even though the public chose not to use DRM by a landslide, they still decided to use it. EMI and Amazon have already ditched DRM.

Report: ‘Shadow Goverment’ Of Private Contractors Explodes
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...xman-contracts/
A new report by the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform concludes that, under the Bush administration, the “shadow government of private companies working under federal contract has exploded in size.

Man dies on stand testifying about death of California girlfriend
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/ sto...EMPLATE=DEFAULT
An Italian accused of killing his American girlfriend after he kidnapped their daughter suffered a heart attack and died on the stand Monday as he testified in court for the first time, his lawyer said.

Suspect Shoots Himself In The Head In Interrogation Room
http://www.snopes.com/photos/ gru...interrogate.asp
Read the Title, this is no BS and this page proves it.

No company has profited more from the carnage in Iraq than Halliburton
http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...070709/ truthdig
As the Iraq war that Vice President Dick Cheney created continues to shred American--and many more Iraqi--lives, further documentation has emerged proving that, even during failed wars, the merchants of death profit.

Voinovich self-destructs on Hannity
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp? ...RTICLE_ID=56414
Sean Hannity's persistent grilling about the senator's intentions on key cloture votes leading to a showdown on what is characterized as an "amnesty" bill that caused Voinovich to melt down before millions of listeners today.

Middletown Police threatened council members
http://middletownpolicenews.blog...il- members.html
The investigation should be dealt with as openly as possible to confirm the cloud of suspicion that has been raised over the police department, said Mayor Sebastian N. Giuliano.

As no-bid deals soar, congressional panel wants more oversight
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19470398/
Roughly half of the money spent on all federal contracts in 2006 was awarded with little or no competition, according to a congressional report released yesterday.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:45 am | #

Bush won't supply subpoenaed documents
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20070...jjm7jeS9Cys0NUE
The White House, moving toward a constitutional showdown with Congress, asserted executive privilege Thursday and rejected lawmakers' demands for documents that could shed light on the firings of federal prosecutors.

Students change university computers from Windows to Linux.
http://noticias.uol.com.br/ educa...lt4528u111.jhtm
Students occupying the University of Sao Paulo ´s chancellors office changed 46 computer's operating systems from Windows to Linux. Files were erased and 13 of the computers cant be fixed. [story in Portuguese]

The Randomization Failure That Rigged The 1969 Draft Lottery
http://www.rhodes.edu/Psych/ wetz...aftlottery.html
During the early part of the Vietnam war, males could be exempt from serving in the military (and being sent to war) by attending college. Eventually this practice was ruled unfair and a lottery was instituted. Except for the lottery wasn't exactly random.

A First! The Fed As a Presidential Campaign Issue
http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewr...ves/ 013791.html
Although Ron Paul's formal education is in medicine, he is qualified to discuss money and economics as he has long studied the works of the great free market economist Ludwig von Mises. Mises is famous for his writings on money and for having exposed the fallacy of a central authority controlling the money supply.

Zbigniew Brzezinski's Daughter Refuses To Report Propaganda Tabloid Trash
http://www.roguegovernment.com/n...ews.php? id=2772
Mika Brzezinski the daughter of Zbigniew Brzezinski a man heavily involved in globalization and pro New World Order organizations recently refused to report a story on Paris Hilton during an MSNBC news program. Brzezinski attempted to light the story on fire and eventually ended up putting the story in a paper shredder. Video is included.

Schwarzenegger Wants All World Countries Under One Environmental Treaty
http://www.jonesreport.com/ artic...ironmental.html
As California Governor Schwarzenegger visited Tony Blair, he announced his desire for a one-world environmental treaty, "a Kyoto kind of treaty" that would "bring all the countries of the world together," suggesting that Blair could head such an unsovereign treaty that would bind mankind under tyranny on quite a flimsy premise.

[PHOTOS] Tortures Devices. (St. Petersburg museum, Russia)
http://throughweb.net/?p=217
...in reality, the position assumed by the victim was the result of careful study and produces, even after only a few minutes, strong and painful muscular cramps in the abdomen and rectal areas. Eventually, cramps begin to plague the chest, neck, arms and legs causing more and more pain, especially in the abdomen and rectum.....

Stateless Dictatorships: How a Free Society Prevents ...
http://www.lewrockwell.com/ molyn...molyneux37.html
By far the most common objection to the idea of a stateless society is the belief that one or more private Dispute Resolution Organizations (DROs) would overpower all the others and create a new government. This belief is erroneous at every conceivable level, but has a kind of rugged persistence that is almost admirable.

[vid] Ron Paul on G4 "Attack of the Show" 6/26
http://www.freecentury.com/2007/...f-the-show-626/
Ron Paul interview 6/26/07

Holding America Hostage - Bush Won't Protect Nation Without Amnesty
http://www.infowars.com/ articles...out_amnesty.htm
MSNBC reported today that President Bush's Chief of Staff warned that without amnesty the government would leave the border open. America is being held hostage by a crazed criminal.

Independent Institute's Alvaro Vargas Llosa on Why Ron Paul?
http://independent.org/newsroom/...cle.asp? id=1988
"WASHINGTON —I was dumbfounded last week when three radio stations, one in Spain and two in Latin America, asked me to explain who American presidential hopeful Ron Paul is and why his candidacy in the Republican primaries has generated such a buzz."
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:40 am | #

How to Stop Our Political and Economic Systems From Stealing Our Future
June 26th, 2007 · No Comments
http://dissidentnews.wordpress.c...ing-our-future/
Paul Hawken, author of Blessed Unrest, discusses what he sees as the largest social movement in human history, and why that movement is so invisible to the media — and itself.

“It will be the stroke of midnight for the rest of our lives. It is too late for heroes. We need an accelerated intertwining of the over 1 million nonprofits and 100 million people who daily work for the preservation and restoration of life on earth. …The language of sustainability is about ideas that never end: growth without inequality, wealth without plunder, work without exploitation, a future without fear. A green movement fails unless there’s a black-, brown-, and copper-colored movement, and that can only exist if the movement to change the world touches the needs and suffering of every single person on earth.” –Worldchanging.org 12/26/06
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:29 am | #

SANE -- you continuing ass-wipe of a person: Today here on the East Coast of the United States it is Thursday, 28 June 2007. Why don't you go and try your best to find another meaning in me saying that. Talk about a dumbass -- YOU.

You want to argue different degrees of 'bad' -- well listen up ass-wipe WHEN this bad guy is eventually taken and charged and found guilty for all those many crimes (many of which are dripping 'war' related matters all over them, inside and out) and he is hanged for his crimes. You go and hang him a couple of more times just to make sure he gets what's coming to him. You do that.

Wait, you're the same guy that can't seem to get a handle on understanding that too much good can also be bad. Yet you are quick to follow up with varying degrees of bad. What a joke you are. Go back to bombarding the forum with your endless postings of others thoughts and links // that way at least we don't have to listen to you personally.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:28 am | #

The CIA’s Torture Teachers
http://dissidentnews.wordpress.c...rture-teachers/
Psychologists helped the CIA exploit a secret military program to develop brutal interrogation tactics — likely with the approval of the Bush White House

WASHINGTON — There is growing evidence of high-level coordination between the Central Intelligence Agency and the U.S. military in developing abusive interrogation techniques used on terrorist suspects. After the Sept. 11 attacks, both turned to a small cadre of psychologists linked to the military’s secretive Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape program to “reverse-engineer” techniques originally designed to train U.S. soldiers to resist torture if captured, by exposing them to brutal treatment. The military’s use of SERE training for interrogations in the war on terror was revealed in detail in a recently declassified report. But the CIA’s use of such tactics — working in close coordination with the military — until now has remained largely unknown.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:27 am | #

The SOB needs to be prosecuted and found guilty of anything and everything he has had his dirty hands upon. Anything/everything.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:22 am | #

Cool!
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:23 am | #

Okay, let me see a show of hands out there --

Who among this forum (other than SANE of course) actually thinks I was trying to avoid saying KISSINGER was (and is) a bad guy?

For you that might not get my dissatisfaction with this man -- The SOB needs to be prosecuted and found guilty of anything and everything he has had his dirty hands upon. Anything/everything.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:22 am | #

Kissinger - Vietnam - 3 million dead

Kissinger - Cambodia - 2 million dead

Kissinger - Africa - 5 million dead

Kissinger - Iraq - 2 million dead and counting

Kissinger - Bosnia - ???

Kissinger - DU poisoning - over 20 million infected including 1.5 million of our troops

Kissinger - biotech contamination - over 1 billion infected

War Criminal?????

Dude this guy is on a whole other level.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:20 am | #

Face it, ass-wipe, you don't like my artful way of expressing this thought .. plain and simple with you. Post Office wall was stated to indicate a criminal like all the others that need to be brought to justice -- FBI WANTED POSTERS of those wanted for rape, murder, kidnapping, etc., etc. Seemed like a good place for him to be associated with other than the CEO of some international house of pancakes -- criminals ALL on that wall. Get it? Or too complicated a concept for you?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:01 am | #
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Dude, Kissinger is above the FBI and the CIA and Mossad and many other law enforcement agencies. He does not commit one rape, or 100 rapes. He creates an environment where millions get raped slaughtered and retain depleated uranium for 10 generations. You call this an FBI wanted criminal???
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:14 am | #

Worse Than Crimes
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lind/...lind/ lind2.html

Why some war criminals are more equal than others
http://in.rediff.com/news/2007/j...an/ 11rajeev.htm

McCain, Kissinger and America as a Client State
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/t...beat? pid=190304

jbird...go here to see the difference between war criminal and criminal against humanity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Lis...t_of_war_crimes

Since Kissinger gets us into unnecessary wars, it is different than someone who is in war comiting a violation of the Geneva Convention. It is in a category of crimes against humanity (also his support of biochemical/DARPA/RFID/raping of Africa/etc. qualify too. )
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 9:11 am | #

Starting today tell one person what you believe( one person in the real world). That is how this war will be won.
strgzr | 06.28.07 - 9:10 am | #

Picture Kissinger standing naked before us. What could you feel but pitty for a man with such talent that waisted it for evil ends. We have the power. We only needs use it.
strgzr | 06.28.07 - 9:06 am | #

The House voted themselves a $4,400 cost of living pay raise yesterday, bringing their salaries to almost $170,000.
And what is their approval rating? 20%?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20070...gress_pay_raise
Scanner | 06.28.07 - 9:00 am |
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Thank you Scanner // this is not good information BUT an excellent Post nevertheless.

Those people in Congress just keep making themselves look worse and worse to this country. Their true colors shine brighter each day -- the color of sh*t brown.

They've lost touch with the common man -- something like this just goes to prove it w/o further comment.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:05 am | #

We can put Kissinger right up there on the Post Office wall as yet another war criminal, in my book.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:03 am
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Face it, ass-wipe, you don't like my artful way of expressing this thought .. plain and simple with you. Post Office wall was stated to indicate a criminal like all the others that need to be brought to justice -- FBI WANTED POSTERS of those wanted for rape, murder, kidnapping, etc., etc. Seemed like a good place for him to be associated with other than the CEO of some international house of pancakes -- criminals ALL on that wall. Get it? Or too complicated a concept for you?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 9:01 am | #

Again, ass-wipe, what part of 'war criminal' are you missing. Yes of course I consider Hitler to be a 'war criminal' -- he was.

Now does he deserve life imprisonment or death by firing squad or hanging or electric chair or lethal injection or or or or --

That's not up to me, a court of law properly convened for such things is how 'war criminals' should be prosecuted/handled. Hitler took the easy way out -- bullet in the head, self-inflicted, after killing his dog (Blondie) and his new wife (married on the 29th of April --dead on the 30th) // What a honeymoon that must have been.

Different degrees of evil, granted -- but all 'war criminals' in summary.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:56 am | #

We can put Kissinger right up there on the Post Office wall as yet another war criminal, in my book.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:03 am |
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And the post office wall???

There should be a thousand person task force dedicated to ensuring that he is confined and that his evil plans [like the false flag nuke for the Iran/Israel war] never see the light of day.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:53 am | #

We can put Kissinger right up there on the Post Office wall as yet another war criminal, in my book.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:03 am |
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What part of 'war criminal' didn't you understand?
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:46 am | #

Ollie North is a war criminal, Pol pot is a bigger war criminal. But Kissinger was the man behind the curtain for most war criminals for the past 50 years. Would you call Hitler a war criminal or something a little more powerful?
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:49 am | #

Paul Craig Roberts: America is being destroyed
June 26th, 2007 · No Comments
http://dissidentnews.wordpress.c...eing-destroyed/
And to Its Fabled Economy
Goodbye to the City on the Hill
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
“We shall be as a city upon a hill. The eyes of all people are upon us.”
–John Winthrop

America is being destroyed. Many Americans are unaware, others are indifferent, and some intend it.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:48 am | #

The guy doesn't even have a clue regarding constructive criticism // saying -- who's trying to control structure of information now?

What a jerk.

Of course the guy doing the SHOUTING can't see the forest for the trees // He thinks he's doing right in the first place, obviously. Listen to those in those 'billions' of other forum sites -- maybe they figured out the reason for this already. Not asking the jerk, he's too busy trying to save the world for all of us to realize there might possibly be a better way.

But oin the meantime, business as usual, put as much info out there as possible, allow the million and one links available in Google searches to 'bleed' freely into a forum that should be designed for discussion by everyone in attendance -- not basically someone's sounding board, their idea of churning out their own personal newspaper using other's thoughts and comments (link after link after link).

It's really turning me off, folks. Think I'll go check out and see what Alex Jones (one of my heroes) has provided at his news collection point. At least he keeps his news items separated from 'Reader Comments' -- or at least tries. Depends entirely upon what the readers in turn contribute as to their 'comments' of course.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:44 am | #

Wider Sale Is Seen for Toothpaste Tainted in China
By WALT BOGDANICH
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/2...28tooth.html? hp
Roughly 900,000 tubes containing a poison have turned up in hospitals for the mentally ill, prisons and even some hospitals serving the general public.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:43 am | #

Proposal to Implant Tracking Chips in Immigrants
http://www.livescience.com/ techn...rfid_chips.html
Scott Silverman, Chairman of the Board of VeriChip Corporation, has proposed implanting the company's RFID tracking tags in immigrant and guest workers. He made the statement on national television on May 16.

Silverman was being interviewed on "Fox & Friends." Responding to the Bush administration's call to know "who is in our country and why they are here," he proposed using VeriChip RFID implants to register workers at the border, and then verify their identities in the workplace. He added, "We have talked to many people in Washington about using it...."

The VeriChip is a very small Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tag about the size of a large grain of rice. It can be injected directly into the body; a special coating on the casing helps the VeriChip bond with living tissue and stay in place. A special RFID reader broadcasts a signal, and the antenna in the VeriChip draws power from the signal and sends its data. The VeriChip is a passive RFID tag; since it does not require a battery, it has a virtually unlimited life span.

RFID tags have long been used to identify animals in a variety of settings; livestock, laboratory animals and pets have been "chipped" for decades. Privacy advocates have long expressed concerns about this technology being used in human beings.
sane | Homepage | 06.28.07 - 8:40 am | #

We can put Kissinger right up there on the Post Office wall as yet another war criminal, in my book.
jbrid1138 | 06.28.07 - 8:03 am | #

???

The guy is single handedly responsible for almost every coup in the past 50 years. He is the death wizard. He is also responsible for the explosion of deaths in Vietnam and greatly responsible for Iraq and soon Iran.

He is already wanted in various countries for crimes against humanity. He probably is responsible for as many deaths as Hitler. He also likes to rape young boys and engage in ritual klillings as well as ritual mass murders.

The guy eminates evil for miles wherever he goes. You make it out like he is a local thug. He deserves a Nurenberg type expose into his gastly deeds.

Shit jbird, you must know this stuff, why give him such a low