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>>>>>>>>>>OOPS, Blue Cross bing investigated for violation of RICO??????

http://www.michaelmoore.com/ _ima...Cross_sicko.pdf
Michael Moore got his hands on a secret internal memo from Blue Cross (.pdf) worrying about the ramifications of his movie SiCKO:
“You would have to be dead to be unaffected by Moore’s movie…If popular, the movie will have a negative impact on our image in this community.”

Suggestions
I believe the most successful strategy will not be in attacking the movie for its weaknesses or
misperceptions, but in distancing ourselves and our brand from the groups and motivations he
attacks, demonstrating the good that we do and achieve (aligns with BCBSA strategy), and in
articulating our disappointment that he did not address the truly relevant issue of improving our
health and wellness. We will convene a team to consider other approaches and work on potential
messages for media inquiries, customer service, and employees.
Confidential Memo (from partner)

Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association
Talking Points in Response to Michael Moore’s “Sicko”
June 2007
1) The Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association (BCBSA) and the 39 Blue Cross and Blue Shield
companies are committed to improving the U.S. healthcare system for our nearly 100 million members
through continuous innovation that reflects the ever-changing healthcare landscape and the needs of
the consumer.
2) The Blues recognize the need for improvement of both the coverage and delivery of healthcare.
But the divisive tone set forth by Michael Moore and his movie "Sicko" is not helpful. Positive
change to our healthcare system can be best achieved through shared responsibility, not
recrimination. To ensure Americans have access to the best healthcare that is both timely,
efficient, and of high quality, requires the collective contribution of all stakeholders –
consumers, providers, employers and the government.
3) The Blues participation in the Health Coverage Coalition for the Uninsured is a primary example
of how the broader healthcare community is working together to reduce the number of uninsured in
the United States.
4) The Blues are working on myriad initiatives that ensure Americans have access to quality and
affordable healthcare. Each day, Blue Plans across the country are bringing healthcare value to
their members in a number of ways such as new advances in health information technology and greater
access to cost and quality information. In addition:
o The Blues recently created Blue Health Intelligence a data resource that will shine light on
emerging medical trends and treatment options in an unprecedented way. To further the use of
evidenced-based medicine, BCBSA has called upon Congress to establish an independent, payer-funded
institute that will study the comparative effectiveness of new and existing medical treatments and
procedures.
o Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies are at the forefront of healthcare transparency by
providing their members with online access to real-time information related to provider quality and
the cost of common healthcare services. In addition, the Blues have committed to making personal
health records available to their members by 2008.
o We are working to ensure that Medicare is funded appropriately and that seniors continue to
have access to comprehensive benefits.
5) The Blues are proud of these efforts and we will continue to work with consumers, providers,
employers and the government to provide Americans with the healthcare services and information they
need to lead full, healthy lives.

Barclay Fitzpatrick
Vice President
Corporate Communications
Capital BlueCross
(w) 717-541-7752
(c) 717-329-3648
barclay.fitzpatrick@capbluecross.com
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I wonder how many phone calls he has received in the past 24 hours???
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 6:39 pm | #

But when and there does come a time that you are ready to handle the truth and you earnestly and sincerely seek to know the truth then SIMPLY ASK YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER TO REVEAL IT TO YOU.
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 5:32 pm | #
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Who's hevenly father, yours?

Your interpretation of the heavenly father?

My interpretation that I communicate with often?

The interpretation in the old testament, which version of translation?

I can guarantee that a one world religion to bring out satan will be defeated by the human spirit and god in all of us.

you can take that back to the guillotine, you got no takers here.

We have had enough of the slaughtering to pervert jesus' name.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 6:00 pm | #

Don't you think that God knows more about the truth about Jesus, Buddha, Mohamad and others than some slick talking man who wasn't even alive back in those days?

Here's the best advise a man can ever give another.

ASK GOD, SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND, KNOCK AND IT WILL BE OPENED TO YOU.

Who's god??

Who's god?????

Who's god?????????

Who's god??????????????
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Again it is always the irrational that call people insane.

they called jesus insane, gandhi insane, mlk insane, malcolm insane, john lennon insane, now Ron Paul insane.

Perhaps that means something other than I thought....hmmmmmm.....
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Again (5th time now sparky):

Again I shall repeat what you cannot face as you are obviously repobate and use jesus as a method to justify the papcy's enslavement of the world:

This is truly going beyond the absurd and as I will request again:

Is it possible for you to use any of the following in your posts:

logic

reality

references

evidence

Or ya can keep rambling senselessly, I don't mind.
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sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:21 pm | #
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:03 pm | #
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 5:38 pm | #

insane,

Don't you think it's rather insane to be asking some man about things that happened thousands of years ago when they were'nt there and can't really tell you?

Shouldn't you rather ask God Himself for the truth about His creation?

Don't you think that God knows more about the truth about Jesus, Buddha, Mohamad and others than some slick talking man who wasn't even alive back in those days?

Here's the best advise a man can ever give another.

ASK GOD, SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND, KNOCK AND IT WILL BE OPENED TO YOU.

Pretty simple huh"

You should not trust me or in Alex or in little bush or in the pope, but you should seek knowledge from God direct.

Problem is that your still in denial and like an ostrich, your head is still stuck in the sand and refuse to open up your eyes and admit that God is real, which is why you won't ask Him YET.

But when and there does come a time that you are ready to handle the truth and you earnestly and sincerely seek to know the truth then SIMPLY ASK YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER TO REVEAL IT TO YOU.
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 5:32 pm | #

Ron Paul Wins Big
Sunday, July 08, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com
http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp? nid=45339
Presidential candidate Ron Paul won the Coalition for New Hampshire Taxpayers (CNHT) straw poll at their annual picnic in Hopkinton, New Hampshire. Dr. Paul received 182 of 294 votes cast, or 65 percent. In second place was Rudy Giuliani with 24 votes, or 8 percent. The poll took place on Saturday, July 7.

"Today's strong victory is further proof that Dr. Paul's message is resonating throughout New Hampshire," said campaign manager Lew Moore. "Dr. Paul is the only candidate in this race truly dedicated to smaller government and lower taxes for all Americans."

CNHT is a statewide, grassroots organization dedicated to reducing the size of government at all levels, stopping judicial activism, providing students and parents with a choice of educational opportunities, expanding job markets, and protecting property rights. (From release)
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sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 5:31 pm | #

Judges OK warrantless monitoring of Web use
http://prisonplanet.com/ articles...warrantless.htm
Christopher Booker
SF Chronicle
Sunday July 8, 2007
http://prisonplanet.com/ articles...warrantless.htm
Federal agents do not need a search warrant to monitor a suspect's computer use and determine the e-mail addresses and Web pages the suspect is contacting, a federal appeals court ruled Friday.

In a drug case from San Diego County, the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco likened computer surveillance to the "pen register" devices that officers use to pinpoint the phone numbers a suspect dials, without listening to the phone calls themselves.
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>>Hey NSA, here is something for you to read since you are being traitors to the constitution no matter what a corrupt judge says:

>>>> FOURTH AMENDMENT

SEARCH AND SEIZURE

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated; and no Warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

-Forth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America
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Buck up soldiers and follow the constitution of which you took a solemn oath on.

Blow the whistles on the treasonous traitors that are going to enslave the next 10 generations of your families--WAKE UP!
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 5:28 pm | #

So do you think there are more than one God? Did one God write the old testament and then another write the new testament and another god make the pyramids in Egypt and so on and so forth, or do you believe what He says over and over again that there is only one God and one God onlt?-steve
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Do you know anything about the christian religion and jesus????

jews, christians, muslims believe god wrote the old testament.

jews, christians, muslims do not believe god wrote the new testament.

What are you talking about?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 5:25 pm | #

Juan Carlos Cruz,

Who told you that God is not here and that Jesus has not returned? If you really look at what the bible actually says "Hod never left us nor forsook us, but our iniquities seperate us from Him"

Why do you suppose christian preachers who try to make money making merchandise out of people work so hard at trying to sell people on the theory that God is not with us, when the bible says the exact opposite in the old and new testaments? Could it be that they are seeking to keep people into bondage and their little cults so they can extract money and respect, power and domination from them?

The bible says over and over again in so many ways that the "Kingdom of God is within you" and that "Jesus Christ is in you" and

1Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you"?

1Corinthians 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own"?

2Corinthians 6:16 "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people".

Do you think all those scriptures were mistakes and errors? Well thats what the preachers tell people. They say the bible has too many errors in it and therefore we must put our trust in them for proper interpretation. Could it be that their little business may suffer loss when people realize that God is already here and that Jesus Christ is within us right here and now? Or do you think there's other reasons why they sell people on the lie that God is not here?

Do you belive God when He says that "He fills the heavens and the earth" or do you think the preachers are correct when they deny those scriptures and convince people that God is not here, but is living on some obscure galaxy on cloud 9? Do you think it's rather strange that the preachers try to convince people to put their trust in them, when the bible says the exact opposite?

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord".

Do you believe this verse?

Jeremiah 17:7 "Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is".

Contrary to the fantasies that insane tries to sell and his buddy Alex Jones, the bible does NOT say blessed is the man who trusts in Alex Jones, or other preachers or presidents of the USA or dead presidents and founding fathers who murdered indians and mexicans and many others and then convinced people they were gods of the earth, so much so that people like insane still worship them even today.

And don't you think it's strange that people like Insane, who openly deny the existence of God and exalt pagan documents over and above the bible, who call the bible a lie and a filthy book think that the old testament was written by another God than the true ONE AND ONLY?

Why do you suppose phony christians say the old testament is irrelevant and that Jesus destroyed it, when Jesus Himself said He did not change one letter of the law, nor did He come to destroy it?Could it be that their eyes are blind to what the old testament really says?

2Corinthians 3:14 - 16 "But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

Now I understand why Insane believes there are many other gods, since he worships a whole host of false gods, but why do you suppose people who claim to believe the bible is true think there are other gods?

Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour".

Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any".

So do you think there are more than one God? Did one God write the old testament and then another write the new testament and another god make the pyramids in Egypt and so on and so forth, or do you believe what He says over and over again that there is only one God and one God onlt?

It's trye there are many FALSE GODS, which is why the one and only true God tells us that all too many people, (such as insane) worship other gods, like GW, the Adams family and a whole host of them, but in reality they don't exist, they are only figments of his imagination, because in truth all his fore fathers of the constitution are dead and gone

I forgive insane for being ignorant as the heathen and biblically illiterate, but it does make me angry when people use the tragedy of dead and dying children and others for a self serving agenda and in reality have no compassion on the children they use.

Here is another page on my web site that gets the same message accross in many ways.
http://www.iwilltryit.com/lebanon1.htm
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 5:14 pm | #

June 20, 2007 Stupid Party - Republicans Rage Against Ron Paul
by Kara Hopkins The American Conservative Magazine
http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=783
It was a dangerous night in South Carolina: the ten candidates for the Republican nomination gathered, and a debate broke out. Damage control was swift. Party elders rushed to excommunicate the instigator. Pundits howled, bloggers convulsed: “moonbat on Kool Aid,” “crackpot,” “cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.” But for all that pious fury, a candidate few Americans had heard of owned the next day’s headlines. Ron Paul had committed the sin of truth—and the reaction revealed much about the party that shunned him. The evening began predictably enough. Focus-grouped down to their ties, the heavyweights managed to attach conviction to issues they rarely think about, while a pack of also-rans nipped at their wingtips. The audience inserted polite applause. Then the play went off script. Asked if bringing our troops home from Iraq was really a Republican position, Ron Paul countered, “There’s a strong tradition of being antiwar in the Republican Party. It is the constitutional position.” Had 9/11 altered that, his questioner inquired. Paul responded that American foreign policy was a “major contributing factor. … They attacked us because we’ve been over there; we’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years…” The crowd went silent. “Are you suggesting that we invited the 9/11 attacks, sir?” A more packaged candidate would have prefaced his answer with a disclaimer—“Of course we did nothing to deserve the attacks.” Paul believes this, but he doesn’t park on Madison Avenue. “I’m suggesting that we listen to the people who attacked us and the reason they did it…” The party men could stand it no longer, and Rudy Giuliani volunteered to chasten the prodigal: “That’s an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the attack of September 11, that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq. I don’t think I’ve heard that before…” The audience thundered approval, and Rudy pressed his advantage: “I would ask the congressman to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn’t really mean that.” But he did mean it—and gave no ground: “If we think we can do what we want around the world and not incite hatred, then we have a problem. They don’t come here to attack us because we’re rich and free. They come and they attack us because we’re over there.” The moderator declined to follow up and moved on to less disruptive subjects —for once the Confederate flag seemed safe—but Paul’s inconvenient truth lingered in the air and led the coverage. Less noted was the reaction of the crowd, Roman in its fervor. What were they applauding? Giuliani’s sloganeering prowess? Or his profession of ignorance? Neither commends him—or them.

Believing that our enemies’ motivation is beyond the scope of legitimate discussion should render Giuliani incapable of strategic analysis. Surely the old prosecutor doesn’t think that discerning a felon’s motive absolves him of the crime? He told Larry King that his plan for pacifying Iraq was to “Do it with more troops—maybe 100,000, 150,000 more.”But on what basis did he make that decision if realists who come within ten feet are ordered to recant? The alternative is that Giuliani really is as remote from the facts as he claimed and was rejecting something he knows nothing about. Worse, he shouted down a more knowledgeable man. Still the crowd downed that cocktail of arrogance and ignorance, delivering the loudest applause of the night and proving Alexander Pope’s maxim: “shallow draughts intoxicate the brain.” Beyond the hall, ovations rippled across the Republican ranks. Wrote RedState’s Rob Bluey: “If Giuliani goes on to capture the nomination, his response to Ron Paul will be one of the moments that is replayed years from now. It was so powerful that I found myself cheering him on in front of the TV.” Other candidates clamored onto the bandwagon: “I thought Mayor Giuliani’s intercession there was appropriate, and frankly, very, very excellent,” said John McCain. “I really appreciated it because we should never, never believe that we brought on this conflict. This is an evil force that is trying to destroy everything we stand for and believe in. And this is a transcendent struggle. That’s why I want to be president of the United States.” It’s come to this. The party once known for its sobriety wants to be lulled with stories about evil forces and immaculate heroes. Prudence yields to utopianism, intellectual combat to blind thuggery. Gone are the wisemen who cast long shadows and wrote great books. Lost too is the Right’s old default that distrusted power and those who want it, replaced by a vision of the irreproachable state.

There’s an impoverished efficiency to this new regime. Millions take dictation from talk radio, keep I-hate-Barbra-Streisand books climbing the bestseller lists, and enjoy the nightly spectacle of Alan Colmes being waterboarded. The ideological contests that once provoked fierce infighting are settled: all that remains is to purge offenders and sell the party line. “If Republicans start thinking like this, we’re dead,” radio talker Glenn Beck said of Paul’s dissent. If Republicans start thinking, they may realize that indignation isn’t argument. “Ron Paul really has no business being on stage as a legitimate representative of Republicans,” Michelle Malkin told Fox’s John Gibson. She’s right—though not for the reason she thinks. Unwilling to engage the facts of Paul’s case, she made up her own, attempting to associate him with the 9/11 Truth Movement, which believes the U.S. was complicit in, or at least forewarned of, the terrorist attacks. Members of the group attended a Paul campaign event, but he has never endorsed their conspiracy theories. Malkin later admitted her error but not before denouncing “tinfoil hat wearers who indulge in this kind of fantasy, where America bears blame for global jihad.” No doubt a chorus of Republican faithful again cheered their TVs. It’s voguish to pronounce a “conservative crack-up,” but just the opposite is occurring. The once marginal tendency has won mass appeal—a kind of victory. But it had to leave behind that frontier where intellectual pioneers wrangled ideas scaled to the terrain. As the ranks swelled, the canon shrunk to a single issue that brooks no challenge. It fits comfortably into a Fox soundbite and finds followers aplenty. So powerful is the martial accord that anyone who disagrees must be something other than conservative: liberal, traitorous, mad. There’s power in that consensus—and fragility. Einstein wrote, “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” Ron Paul proved that he has brain and backbone. But the party he’s bidding to lead has lost the ability to distinguish between a constitutionalist and a crackpot.
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I guess it would be nice to get a sanity check on whether the first hardcore and connected political commentators to support RP are truly free from their masters. I think it is fair to ask if those guys have abandoned their young teachers' grasps and are rallying against the corrupt enslavement that was taught to them earlier, or if there is something infinitely more deceptive going on.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 4:58 pm | #

GOP Rep.: US Attorney Iglesias fired 'because he's an idiot' David Edwards and Josh Catone Published: Sunday July 8, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ GO...cause_0708.html
Reps. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) and Chris Cannon (R-UT) appeared on Fox News Sunday this morning to debate the politicization of the Justice Department. Van Hollen argued that the firing of US Attorney David Iglesias in New Mexico last December was evidence of that politicized culture. "It was clearly a case of trying to push somebody who exercises independent judgment," Van Hollen said of phone calls placed to Iglesias by Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) and Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM) to pressure the attorney to prosecute certain voter fraud cases. Van Hollen said that Iglesias was fired because he ultimately did not "take orders from the White House" on those cases. Cannon then spoke over Van Hollen, saying, "No, no, he was fired because he's an idiot."

NYT: 'It is time for the US to leave Iraq' RAW STORY Published: Sunday July 8, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ NY...US_to_0708.html
In an editorial today, the New York Times calls for the immediate withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, "without any more delay than the Pentagon needs to organize an orderly exit." The Times writes that it has become "clear that the president had neither the vision nor the means to" build a stable and unified Iraq, and that the "surge" as failed to mitigate the sectarian violence that continues to rage in the country. "The political leaders Washington has backed are incapable of putting national interests ahead of sectarian score settling," writes the NYT. "Additional military forces poured into the Baghdad region have failed to change anything."

NY Times calls Iraq a 'lost cause' Published: Sunday July 8, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ NY_...__07082007.html
The New York Times on Sunday called for US troops to leave Iraq now, writing that President George W. Bush's plan to stabilize the country through military means is a lost cause." It is time for the United States to leave Iraq, without any more delay than the Pentagon needs to organize an orderly exit," the influential daily wrote in a rare, single-issue editorial taking up one-half of an entire news page. "Like many Americans, we have put off that conclusion, waiting for a sign that President Bush was seriously trying to dig the United States out of the disaster he created by invading Iraq without sufficient cause, in the face of global opposition, and without a plan to stabilize the country afterward," the daily wrote.But it has since emerged, the Times concluded, that Bush has "neither the vision nor the means to do that."

Hardball: David Shuster smacks down Scooter Libby defender David Edwards and Muriel Kane Published: Saturday July 7, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ha...ganza_0707.html
On MSNBC's Hardball on Friday, guest host David Shuster reported on a fresh controversy surrounding the Scooter Libby pardon. In a Wall Street Journal column on June 8, conservative Fouad Ajami wrote "Scooter Libby was a soldier in your -- our -- war in Iraq. He can't be left behind as a casualty of a war our country had once proudly claimed as its own." That remark has sparked widespread outrage. Ajami appeared with Shuster to defend himself, saying testily, "I don't really need to be lectured on the soldiers killed in Iraq. ... I have a nephew serving with the US military as a lieutenant in Iraq. ... You have to be able to handle a metaphor." Ajami then began laying out a set of standard talking-points, begining with the familiar argument that Libby was not really the person who leaked Valerie Plame's identity. "I know where you're going with this," interrupted Shuster. "You said, 'Oh, we know that Richard Armitage wasn't the leaker,' as if there was just one leaker. ... Richard Armitage would have only had this information about Valerie Wilson only because Scooter Libby asked the State Department for the information. ... Seven different people talked with Scooter Libby about Valerie Wilson. ... Vice President Cheney told Scooter Libby about Valerie Wilson." When Ajami attempted to continue with the assertion that "there had been no underlying crime," Shuster broke in again, pointing out that "the whole issue was that because Scooter Libby lied and obstructed the investigation, Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald was not able to make a call. This should never have been criminalized to begin with," insisted Ajami. "This was part of the debate on the Iraq War. Why do you believe that Scooter Libby lied to the FBI, lied to the grand jury if this was simply a matter of politics?" Shuster replied. Shuster then invited Iraq veteran Paul Rieckhoff, founder of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, to respond to Ajami's comments. Rieckhoff said, "I think it's absurd David. I think it's a new low and an act of desperation here to defend a man, comparing him to fallen soldiers. ... Part of the soldier's creed is to say that you will uphold the Army values and live the Army values. Those values include honor, integrity, personal courage. They don't include lying and breaking the law." Rieckhoff continued, "If you are going to use us as props for a political argument to defend Scooter Libby, you have to understand that we're going to push back. Scooter Libby does not embody the Army values. He is not an honorable soldier by breaking the law and lying." At the end of the segment, Fouad Ajami returned with an attempt to connect the 9/11 attacks to the war in Iraq. Shuster quickly cut him off, saying, "Mr. Ajami, I'm not going to let you end this with the idea that Iraq was part of 9/11, when everybody knows that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Blackwater manager blamed for 2004 massacre in Fallujah
http://www.newsobserver.com/nati...ory/ 630475.html
Memos say four Blackwater USA contractors were too few, under-armed and unprepared when they were sent on an ill-advised, fatal mission into Fallujah, Iraq.
The Bridge: N&O series on the Blackwater contractors killed in Iraq
http://www.newsobserver.com/nati...orld/ blackwater
Read William Bailey's statement (PDF)
http://www.newsobserver.com/stat...news/ bailey.pdf
Read Troy James Lewis' statement (PDF)
http://www.newsobserver.com/stat.../news/ lewis.pdf
Read Daniel Browne's statement and letter (PDF)
http://www.newsobserver.com/stat...news/ browne.pdf
Read Jason Shupe's statement (PDF)
http://www.newsobserver.com/stat.../news/ shupe.pdf
Companies focus on boosting security
http://www.newsobserver.com/nati...ory/ 596171.html
Two paths, one ambush (JPG)
http://media.newsobserver.com/ co...08_fallujah.jpg

Fred Thompson aided Nixon on Watergate
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20070...5FGfIIAsh1h24cA
By JOAN LOWY, Associated Press Writer
Sat Jul 7, 4:38 PM ET Choice Excerpts:
Nixon was disappointed with the selection of Thompson, whom he called "dumb as hell." The president did not think Thompson was skilled enough to interrogate unfriendly witnesses and would be outsmarted by the committee's Democratic counsel. This assessment comes from audio tapes of White House conversations recently reviewed by The Associated Press at the National Archives in College Park, Md., and transcripts of those discussions that are published in "Abuse of Power: The New Watergate Tapes," by historian Stanley Kutler.
"Oh s---, that kid," Nixon said when told by his chief of staff, H.R. Haldeman, of Thompson's appointment on Feb. 22, 1973.
"Well, we're stuck with him," Haldeman said.
In a meeting later that day in the Old Executive Office Building, Baker assured Nixon that Thompson was up to the task. "He's tough. He's six feet five inches, a big mean fella," the senator told Nixon. Publicly, Baker and Thompson presented themselves as dedicated to uncovering the truth. But Baker had secret meetings and conversations with Nixon and his top aides, while Thompson worked cooperatively with the White House and accepted coaching from Nixon's lawyer, J. Fred Buzhardt, the tapes and transcripts show.
"We've got a pretty good rapport with Fred Thompson," Buzhardt told Nixon in an Oval Office meeting on June 6, 1973. The meeting included a discussion of former White House counsel John Dean's upcoming testimony before the committee. Dean, the committee's star witness, had agreed to tell what he knew about the break-in and cover-up if he was granted immunity against anything incriminating he might say. Nixon expressed concern that Thompson was not "very smart." "Not extremely so," Buzhardt agreed. "But he's friendly," Nixon said. "But he's friendly," Buzhardt agreed. "We are hoping, though, to work with Thompson and prepare him, if Dean does appear next week, to do a very thorough cross-examination."[try not to laugh too hard]

Florida GOP aimed to suppress votes
http://rawstory.com/ showarticle....183045410.shtml
Memos show talk of GOP illegal vote suppression in FL prior to '04 election.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:31 pm | #

The ideal king is one that shepherds God's people under the authority of God. Although the Babylonians thought that they were following God, they allowed Nimrod to lead the people, not God, and established a man made unity and kingdom by force of rule with the laws of man.

Babylon was famed as the most important city in Mesopotamia and the capital of Chaldea. Babylon was
Juan Carlos Cruz | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:10 pm | #
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Awesome!!!!!!!!!

Even more reason for more localized and less centralized government!!!!!!! Thanks..

More on the pagans, babylonians, romans, and their wicked plans here:

Why are we not ending the war in Iraq-the people we are yelling at cannot do a thing:
Part 1
http://video.google.com/ videopla...834925200441495
Part 2
http://video.google.com/ videopla...076800390535825
Zeitgeist:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...481422995115331
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:15 pm | #

Babylon the Great part 2

One thing we need to do is stay focused. Babylon is not America but rides upon her and if there is a city of Babylon, we must at least recognize that it could be here somewhere in what could be considered as the capital of the world or the capital of world commerce. Babylon as a city - some have spoken of New York as the city with the Wall Street stock market, the United Nations and the center of World Trade. Corresponding to the final world power, America is the youngest of the nations and all nationalities have flowed into her. We take pride in America of the Statue of Liberty, "Give me your tired, your poor, ..." the history of America is saturated with the blood of our own martyrs, not the blood of others. But the One World Order is a fact today and we cannot deny that it is economic and political and having the aspect of a religion. Certainly there will be a revival and America will be a part of that but again, let us be focused, there will be judgment as well as blessings. America has drifted from her God-ordained course and we must recognize that the right-wing insanity that the United States is now guilty of has blinded Americans through pride to the fact of what is really happening in our present generation. America has funded death squads against people's movements, has protected it's economic interests through embargoes and forbidding to buy and sell in the open market, has armed any totalitarian regime where an economic advantage can be gained and is guilty of opposing anyone in the third world who stands for economic democracy, the social gospel, nationalization of natural resources, land reform or the poor in general if it threatens the dominance of multi-national exploitation.

Babylon is considered the greatest commercial profit center of our time. No other power can even be compared to its great wealth. All the nations of the world have become rich due to their trade with this entity and their merchants are known as the great men of the world. When it is destroyed world trade will be devastated and will be a great worldwide loss both financially and politically. Usury has been mentioned, it is a maxim of justice in the spiritual world that debts should be forgiven. What happens when the nations of the south, which are on the side of the poor, defaults on the enormous debt against the north that has empowered and enslaved their nations? Think about it.

We have discussed whether Babylon is represented as the old Roman Empire and the Roman Church as Mother of modern day Babylon with the present situation as the daughter. Secondly, we have discussed whether Babylon is best represented in the materialism and world imperialistic nature that the New World Order has identified with in this generation as a revived Roman Empire. There is no question that Babylon rides upon the four heads of the beast and the America is one of the heads. We are to discuss in dialectic which would rule out America as Babylon if we understand that if Babylon rides upon the beast that has four heads, then that would mean that America is only a part of the sins of Babylon and not all of it, even if she is positioned as the notable horn.

As we stand up as the Bride of Christ we intercede for the whole world and must rise up to denounce the sins of Babylon. Even now, Babylon the Great does not look so great and those of us that bend the bow must aim these arrows of truth at the heart of her exploitation and avarice. The Queen of the South has been and will continue rising up against this generation. The wealth of Babylon has been stored up in the last days for the poor, so unite, lift up the standard upon her walls and denounce the oppression. Strengthen what remains and be ready, we no longer need to speak in terms of how soon, but act in terms of now. Not only in the economic realm but in the religious as well.

Cut off the sower from Babylon and he that handle the sickle in the time of harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land.
It is time to completely turn ourselves over to the true Jesus and come against the false je$u$ with its hireling shepherds who make merchandise out of us. Out battlefield is in the heavenlies, we must bring down these strongholds of satan and rescue those that are captive. You know that there will be casualties but you also know the war has already been won. Have courage and endure to the end.
The field of battle is money and it is on the grounds of commerce that Babylon shall be judged, fall swiftly and rise again. The moneymakers of the world will bewail their losses when Babylon is spoiled, but it is not destruction. The Queen of the South will rise up to denounce this generation. When Babylon flourishes again it will be a terrible time for the nations, including the people of God. "I sit a queen and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow." Babylon will cling to the spiritual connection of her heritage as the spouse of the Lord, but it is apostasy, the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit. The daughter of Babylon shall be become utterly desolate. "Flee out of the midst of Babylon... Set up the standard." "It shall be wholly desolate... all you that bend the bow, shoot at her, spare no arrows... for it is the vengeance of the Lord." "As she has done, so do unto her."

Only at the Second Coming will the political domination of this world power finally be destroyed.

Look among your own churches and your own ideas that you have been taught and rely on the spirit to convict you of what you might think that is false. Go ahead and look around but also look in yourself. Recognize your pride, your denominational subjective bias and look objectively. Question what others have taught and especially question your own pre-conceptions. We do not have to have all the answers but we do need to question before we can find them. Trust in the Lord to teach you with His spirit to guide you into all truth. Have you been praying in the spirit for this? I hope and pray that you able.

We need to pull out as many as we can out of Babylon. All over the world, people are now protesting against the exploitation and oppression of the third world countries by the economic powers of the north. Do not despise them, support them. They do not have to be hot in the spirit, maybe cold, but at least not smug and luke-warm. Jesus is again driving the moneychangers out of the court of the Gentiles. It the responsibility of the church to go and bring others into the Holy Place, even further into the Holy of Holies.

We need to have a burden for those in captivity. Many Christians are unwittingly in Babylon and have spiritually taken the mark of the beast already. The lukewarm church loves Babylon because she has made them rich, her prophets beg for money but they are being tested and tried. In order to receive the seal of God and be a part of the Bride of Christ, it is imperative in these last days to choose between the two masters quickly; it is still the Living God in His judgment of the sins of Babylon or the god of mammon. It is not too late, understand and get out of her. The time is short and the time is coming very soon that there will be no turning back. We are hated for this message and many of us will be killed but it won't be for a while. You will be called a traitor, a heretic and a false prophet for speaking the truth. Those who have not come out of her will hate you. Have no fear, just believe and bring the Kingdom message to the poor.

Get out of her my people and do not be among those that bewail her losses but

Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets; for God has avenged you on her. And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in you; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in you: for your merchants were the great men of the earth; for by your sorceries were all nations deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: For true and righteous are his judgments: for he has judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and has avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

[BD, 179, 306, 345, 380, 353, 381, Genesis 10, 11, Psalms 127:1, Revelation 17, 18, 19, 21:22, Isaiah 13, 14, Jeremiah 25, 27, 29, 50, 51, Daniel 4, John 2:21, I Peter 4:17, Matthew 6, Habakkuk 1:6]
Juan Carlos Cruz | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:14 pm | #

But like the 9/11 scam most people prefer to put their trust in liars and criminals and fairy tales, because the truth is just too painful to accept.
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Are you accusing everyone who supports disclosure of 9/11 as not being spiritual?

Are you accusing of everyone that supports localized government as not beingg spiritual?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:11 pm | #

HELLO DEAR ANTI-FASCISM, ANTI-NEOCONS revolutionaries. Here is a great text which talks about Babylon the Great and how it represents the world-system of global-domination. It is not USA, nor the Catholic Church. It is the system, the economic-system of Neoliberalism and Imperialism which threatens the human species:

Babylon the Great

Those in the restoration movement are called to the task. What we have in this group is a Zerubbabel ministry of the two witnesses who are to measure the temple and hold the plumb line. The two witnesses have not yet appeared, they will be coming during the tribulation period and there is much work to do in restoration before they will announce themselves. What will happen first is a ministry that will herald the coming and prepare the way. This is made up of many of us in the apostolic and prophetic that will act as a collective two witnesses and come together in unity before all these things in revelation happen. If we are truly restoring the purity of the church, which is the temple of God, then we are part of this Zerubbabel ministry that has been called out of Babylon. Remember that many are called but few are chosen, we must get holy to prepare ourselves for the marriage supper of the Lamb. Those of us that have truly been delivered out of Babylon make up a remnant that has truly been called out to do the work and do not include those that are still in the captivity and confusion. "Not by might, not by power, but by My Spirit saith the Lord."
In the revelation to John it is written: "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her (Babylon) my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues." Look what it says, Come out of her MY PEOPLE. We do not need to say that these things that we come up with as identifying Babylon have anything to do with rejecting the people, or their salvation and their part in the true church. THEY ARE GOD'S PEOPLE. But the Bride of Christ is holy and blameless and not so the bulk of the Body of Christ. Many of them are prideful, they follow after their own ways and they will not give up false doctrine because it threatens their self-righteous superiority over others. Pride is a real killer in the church. The church of the flesh is in apostasy striving to please Jesus through their own efforts, those with the seal of God are walking in His Spirit and the two are in enmity with each other. Remember as the Bride of Christ that we are to be a holy church and it is the anointed remnant that has come out of Babylon that will prepare her for the marriage. We are to direct ourselves in following the anointing and build upon what Jesus has laid down for us.

Before God's people can get out of Babylon, we must first identify her. Interpretations of Babylon vary widely but she is called "Mystery Babylon" so our interpretation is especially spiritual. The Babylon of today is much more a state of mind than it is a place and includes the harlot in the economic, religious and political world. If we cannot yet recognize who or where she is, at least we can come to an understanding by knowing what she is. Spiritual Babylon is easy to identify unless it is through the eyes of Babylon herself and it takes courage to come out according to the true understanding. Babylon the Great is a present reality that will fall in the future and is tied up with the beast of the Apocalypse, the Anti-christ, the mark of the beast, Abaddon, the false prophet and much more that also includes delusion and spiritual deceptions. We need not decipher every jot and tittle of the four heads or the seven heads and the horns, the feet and each detail but rather identify the spirit of the harlot and the delusion. This is the way that we will receive the seal of God in our foreheads. Much has been discussed about the details but also much has not been agreed upon as to interpretation, so we must stay focused.

We are living in the last days and satan wants us to be completely ignorant of who Babylon is and will put up all kinds of roadblocks to distract us and get us to look into other directions. The most he can do is to get us to ignore the issue and go on with business as usual, then he has won. The most important thing for the church today in restoration is to be able to first get out of Mystery Babylon the Great, so what we are discussing is of immense importance to the end time church. We cannot remain in Babylon just for the sake of loving those that will not come out, we need to pluck them out of the fire. For those that who are not able to get out of her, there are maledictions promised that they will be a part of her sins. You have to know that this will ultimately happen and it will be sooner rather than later. God's people in general are destroyed for lack of knowledge but the Seal of God comes with the wisdom to hear the Lord and see truth as it is and accept the knowledge of the spirit. For those in the church that have not taken it seriously, God has already sent them a strong delusion that they will believe the lie. I pray that this will not happen to those reading these words. Please take this seriously.

The Bible gives us examples of where to look for Babylon in the historical sense and it is there that we may find clues to the identification of modern day Babylon the Great. Babylon rides upon the four heads of the beast so identifying the apocalyptic beast is also a clue to her identity. You need only to look as far as the image of the Beast to find Babylon today; the economic and religious power of the One World Order that has replaced Jesus with an apostate Christianity that made her great. It is in judgment of the sins of Babylon that will bring her down and those that are part of her sins. Judgment begins at the house of God and much of the sifting has already started.

Religious Babylon especially exposes herself if you look at the ones that oppose restoration and revival, stand in favor of the nature of the Beast in the confusion of incompatible doctrine, oppose God's prophets and apostles and puts others on the defensive according to their own pride, exalted positions in the flesh, prejudicial doctrines and lack of love, acceptance and unity. And they will be the ones that exploits, dominates and oppresses the weak. These things typify the Grand Delusion.

Babylon is scripturally described as the great eagle with a head of gold. Babylon is the great eagle that comes unto Lebanon, with another great eagle shooting forth her branches in Ezekiel 17. The king of Babylon comes to Jerusalem and takes the king and the princes and leads them with him to Babylon. "Behold you among the heathen and regard and wonder marvelously: for I will work a work in your days, which you will not believe, though it will be told you. For lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess... they are terrible and dreadful... horses swifter than leopards... fly as the eagle... come all for violence: their face shall sup up as the east wind... scoff at kings. Then shall his mind change, and he shall pass over, and offend, imputing this his power unto his god." "And here is the mind which has wisdom."

Babylon the Great is mystery Babylon, mother of harlots and abominations. The historical Babylon is the original building of the tower of Babel after the flood which represents confusion and the striving of man's efforts to reach heaven. The second is an historical view from the Babylonian captivity of the Jews. We may also identify the historical Mother of Babylon as being the Roman Empire and later the Roman Church. Now we have the daughter of Babylon riding on the beast which is best represented by the materialism, greed, mammon worship, capitalism, avarice and the compromising spirit of contemporary Christianity. At any rate, we are certainly not ready to come out of her if we cannot identify who she is. The spirit of God is working in our hearts and minds and we have come up with the answers that are needed and it takes all of us working together to restore the temple. It is our responsibility to sound the alarm and to pray for more laborers to be delivered from the great harlot. Get out of spiritual Babylon first, make sure that you have been sealed by God through the Baptism with the Holy Spirit and then get as many others out as you can. Once this spiritual7ltrain temple is restored, you are either out of Babylon or are part of her sins and judgment.

The name Babylon is said to be originally used by the Babylonians to mean the "gate of god" from the word babilu but the meaning was later changed to reflect the confusion. The Hebrew root from the word balal means, "to confound" and refers to the confusion at the Tower of Babel. The apocalyptic Babylon is the confusion that this last day church is under during the end of the times of the Gentiles and of the influence that is brought to the whole social order of the world.

Babylon had first risen to eminence under Hammurabi who instituted one of history's great legal codes. This original Babylon started with the city in the land of Shinar after the flood and built by Nimrod, the great-grandson of Noah through Cush, son of Ham. The name of Nimrod became to mean "let us revolt or rebel," he is called "a mighty one in the earth and a mighty hunter before the Lord," and the "beginning of his kingdom Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar," along the Euphrates river. The ideal king is one that shepherds God's people under the authority of God. Although the Babylonians thought that they were following God, they allowed Nimrod to lead the people, not God, and established a man made unity and kingdom by force of rule with the laws of man.

Babylon was famed as the most important city in Mesopotamia and the capital of Chaldea. Babylon was
Juan Carlos Cruz | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:10 pm | #

Let's get all the versions:

NASB: promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved. (NASB ©1995)
GWT: They promise these people freedom, but they themselves are slaves to corruption. A person is a slave to whatever he gives in to.(GOD'S WORD®)
KJV: While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
ASV: promising them liberty, while they themselves are bondservants of corruption; for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he also brought into bondage.
BBE: Saying that they will be free, while they themselves are the servants of destruction; because whatever gets the better of a man makes a servant of him.
DBY: promising them liberty, while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a man is subdued, by him is he also brought into slavery.
ERV: promising them liberty, while they themselves are bondservants of corruption; for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he also brought into bondage.
WEY: And they promise them freedom, although they are themselves the slaves of what is corrupt. For a man is the slave of any one by whom he has been worsted in fight.
WBS: While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for by whom a man is overcome, by the same is he brought into bondage.
WEB: promising them liberty, while they themselves are bondservants of corruption; for a man is brought into bondage by whoever overcomes him.
YLT: liberty to them promising, themselves being servants of the corruption, for by whom any one hath been overcome, to this one also he hath been brought to servitude,
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:08 pm | #

2Peter 2:19 "While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage". - steve
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YES YES YES!!!!!!!

Hilary Clinton, Guiliani, and all the others are exactly that, AWESOME find!!!!

The papal domination is exactly that!!!!!!

Ron Paul is exactly not that!!!!

Yes, people who promise freedom that have promoted lack thereof should never be trusted.

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am going to use that everywhere, thanks!

2Peter 2:19 "While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage"

BTW - you kept talking about the old testament, yet you continue to quote the new. Is this some kind of giveaway that you are a Papal messanger?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:07 pm | #

Insane,
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:16 pm | #
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It is somewhat curious that you continue to call me "insane" only when you have abandoned any semblance of rational thought.

Again (4th time now sparky):

Again I shall repeat what you cannot face as you are obviously repobate and use jesus as a method to justify the papcy's enslavement of the world:

This is truly going beyond the absurd and as I will request again:

Is it possible for you to use any of the following in your posts:

logic

reality

references

evidence

Or ya can keep rambling senselessly, I don't mind.
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sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:21 pm | #
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:03 pm | #

Problem: Trusting in man, believing in lies.
Solution: Trusting in God, believing in the truth
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:48 pm | #
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Problem centralized power that creates elitism - this elitism is the only way that allows for the worship of man.

Solution: localized power as dictated in the constitution, jesus would not want it any other way.

and who's god

who's god

who's god??????
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:59 pm | #

Point being, unless we obey God and follow His instructions and put our faith in Him the bible won't be displayed properly and people won't understand the real meaning. And they will twist the true messages and pervert it into evil things in order to justify their crimes against God and humanity
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:16 pm | #
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Who's god???

god can only appear when every human has the freedom to find him for themselves.

You are either propogating the idea that only the papal visions and a new world order can bring about god, but the scriptures tell us the opposite.

jesus warned us of the lack of freedom in observing our faith and you are promoting a new inquisition to behead all that do not support the NWO god that will come to us mysteriously and with a heavy hand. - this is of course the anti-christ as foreseen by jesus.

the constitution and the separation of church and state allow for god to exist in every one of us, whereas to destruction of the separation of church and state will mean our ultimate enslavement to satan.

our forefathers knew this well.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:53 pm | #

The bible is wonderful and awesome and displays an infinite amount of truth about the world in which we live, past present and future, the nature of man in the flesh and the spirit and mans relationship with God and our brothers, sisters, neighbors and enemies. - steve
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So is the q'oran

So is Krishna's teachings

So is Lao Tzu

I am not arguing this
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:48 pm | #

Should people seek knowledge from the one who loves them and cares about them, who is free and charges no money, or should they put their trust in hirelings, people who are simply trying to make money off them?

John 10:8-14 "All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

your founding fathers promissed them liberty and freedom as they do this day, but in reality they lied to them, used them and created another phony government built on lies, hype and B.S.

2Peter 2:19 "While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage".

It's not about beating up poor old GW, (george washington) jefferson, addams or other dead mens bones that people worship, but it's about where people put their faith in today.

Faith is very powerful and yes people can put some faith in lies and deception and old wives tales, or if they listen to God they will find that His instructions are for us to put our faith in the TRUTH.

But like the 9/11 scam most people prefer to put their trust in liars and criminals and fairy tales, because the truth is just too painful to accept. They would rather bomb whole countries and possibly start a nuclear exchange with Russia and China rather than admit their political leaders in whom they put their trust in deceived them.

Same goes with religious people who reject God and trust in men.

Problem: Trusting in man, believing in lies.

Solution: Trusting in God, believing in the truth
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:48 pm | #

Insane,

The truth is free and it sets people free, and the truth does not dwell in temples made with human hands, nor can the truth be solely attained from any website, but in truth it can only flow from God to His children through their heads and hearts.

With the spirit of truth and understanding people can then look at information in books, websites etc. and have the ability to dicern truth from fiction, reality from fantasy, but since of course you are at emnity with the truth your hope is that people will see a website or some other man made body for the truth.

People can read as many websites as they like, they can read the bible for decades and still not have an ounce of truth IF they don't have wisdom and understanding from God almighty.

The bible is wonderful and awesome and displays an infinite amount of truth about the world in which we live, past present and future, the nature of man in the flesh and the spirit and mans relationship with God and our brothers, sisters, neighbors and enemies.

But understanding the hidden mysteries and knowledge contained in the scriptures requires wisdom from God and a the right heart and mindset.

Obviously these things are too far above you for the moment because of your hatred of God and the truth, but for the few people who may happen to have some of love of God they may understand this analogy.

Picture the bible text as an HTML page with various scripts, but all written in code, including XHTML, Java, ASP.NET. PHP, XML, CSS, and many other Internet mark-up languages. And these codes have been designed and originated by the Most High, the Most Brilliant and the one who understands the human mind the most.

And on these pages are streaming media players, sound files, pictures, etc.

However in order to view them correctly you need certain software installed on your computer, such as plug and play etc. And your browser must be properly configured in order to display the pages accurately.

So God tells His children to trust in Him and turn their hearts and minds to Him and have faith in Him. This is like downloading the correct plug and play software.

Then the people who really do trust in God that have OBEYED HIS INSTRUCTIONS they can see and understand with their hearts what the bible really says, and they see it's truth and beauty and brilliant, miraculous hidden treasures and mysteries about how the world and mankind REALLY OPPERATE.

But the wolves in sheeps clothing interfere with God's direct command and tell the people to NOT seek God direct nor download His instructions, but rather to pay them and let them do the interpretations for them.

So they never really see what the bible really says. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, they see the codes, like a raw HTML page with no ryhme or reason, but to them it seems like a big mess, like looking at a website, clicking the view, and looking at the source code.

Point being, unless we obey God and follow His instructions and put our faith in Him the bible won't be displayed properly and people won't understand the real meaning. And they will twist the true messages and pervert it into evil things in order to justify their crimes against God and humanity
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:16 pm | #

There’s nothing new under the sun. -steve
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-nothing huh?

Oh great ra, please give us something new.

What kind of pagan are you?

Protestant killers huh?
Wow, nice touch.

And thus we see the power of the papacy that instructed the continual bombing of Dresden to wipe out any remnants of protestants in Germany.

And by the way, what does:

Have to do with bowing to the papal scum, the black pope, and the jesuit traitors of jesus's beliefs?

Again I shall repeat what you cannot face as you are obviously repobate and use jesus as a method to justify the papcy's enslavement of the world:

This is truly going beyond the absurd and as I will request again:

Is it possible for you to use any of the following in your posts:

logic

reality

references

evidence

Or ya can keep rambling senselessly, I don't mind.
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sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:21 pm | #

And so it is that you, Alex, little bush, the apostate churches and other satanic cults are at emnity with God and hate the truth because God already has our hearts and minds, whereas the cults want them for themselves.

The truth will make you free from the bondage of the traditions of men. The truth breaks down the walls of deception and opens the door freeing the people, and this is why you are so admantly against the truth. The last thing you and your cult colleges want is for people to be free, because of your satanic nature to rule over them.

But of course you'll deny this obvious fact about yourself, as does Alex, little bush, and the worldly churches. The last thing you want is for people to know the truth, to know that God is with us all and can save us all FREE OF CHARGE.

If for example Alex admitted the truth in that God is our only solution and savior then why would people continue giving Alex money? How could Alex raise all that money and prop up John Paul as the great savior if people knew that God loves us and can save us?

Same thing with churches. How could they make money selling books, tapes, DVD's and other training materials along with accepting tithes and offerings and donations if they knew the truth in that God's wisdom is eternal and He gives it liberally to those that seek Him?

How could churches justify spending 10's of millions of dollars on temples made with human hands if their flocks read and believed the scriptures that specifically stated "The Lord does not dwell in temples made with human hands" But He dwells in the minds and hearts of those with a humble and contrie spirit.

How could the people who make a living selling carved images to religious people stay in business if their customers actually read the bible and discovered that God is not pleased at all with people who worship carved images?

And how could you continue recruiting people to your New World Order cult if people realized that God is with us all and can save us from any oppressor?

You see there's just no money in the truth and the last thing you want to do is watch your captive audience be set free by the truth, because it's the belief in the lies that keep them in bondage, that keep them captive to your cult that insures money, support, etc.

And so this new cult that have going is not really all that new, it's been going on for a very long time, and this cult is against the truth, because in truth God loves us and can save us, whereas your dead murderous idols that you bow down to and worship have you convinced as they others that God does not exist and you therefore need them to save them.

And much like your brethren little bush, you and your fore fathers use fear, terror and everything else under the sun in a feeble attempt to SCARE THE HELL OUT OF PEOPLE in hopes that they turn to you and/or your cult for help.

Alex Jones does it with 9/11, and then manipulations and then adds much misinformation in order to do the same thing his partner little bush does, which is to scare people into thinking that the world will come crashing down unless we give Alex money and support.

So naturally you and your cult freinds are against God and the truth, because the truth will set people free and the truth is free, there's no charge for the truth, because it is a gift of love.
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:21 pm | #

Steve: You are right in some things and wrong in others. For example, I don't think George Washinton, Lincoln were evil. In fact Karl Marx wrote a letter to Lincoln congratulating him for the USA democratic proyect. But you are right in saying that Alex Jones twists some truths, for example. I don't understand why Alex Jones is so anti-marx, so anti-socialism. He bashes Marx and twists Marxist thought when in truth Marx is the negation of fascism and opression, Marx was one of the first liberator-ideologists of workers he wrote about the class-struggles and how the world has been ruled by a class of oligarchs, kings and upper-classes against the majority (the wage-slaves)

Alex Jones claims that Marx, Lenin and other great revolutionaries were financed by the World-Illuminati Bankers (Which is no-sense and not backed by evidence)

Alex Jones is right in 9-11, Police-Fascism etc. but then he is very wrong in bashing good people like Amy Goodman, Marx, Lenin, etc.

I mean Alex Jones is great i listen to his program but his ideology 'free market libertarianism' is not the best solution for US and world-fascism. Only workers-ownership of corporations could be the true liberation of mankind

Juan Carlos Cruz
Juan Carlos Cruz | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:03 pm | #

There’s nothing new under the sun.

What has been is being repeated through out history, such as the politicians of the world governments, is to rule, control and dominate masses of people, otherwise known as sheep or sheople. And the common tools used are lies and deception, hype and B.S.

A little truth is used to get peoples attention and trust and allegiance, and then the lies are woven into the fabric of the story to fulfill their purpose, such as the case in 9/11. In truth the towers came down and killed thousands of people. We all saw it so we know it’s true.

But the deceivers added layers upon layers of lies, such as Bin Laden did it, Muslim extremists did it, etc. and one of the biggest lies is that the government will save us from more terror attacks in the future. And a large percentage of the people fall for those lies and put their trust in the deceivers. They do it primarily out of fear.

And in the case of GW (George Washington), Thomas Payne, Addams, Jefferson, etc. a little truth was used mixed in with a bunch of lies, that a group of men would save them and make their lives better.

But in both cases the deceivers were murderers, liars and thieves who had little or no compassion. These people that you worship slaughtered innocent Indians, and African’s not to mention there own citizens. It’s well known that GW, (Washington) murdered several kids who didn’t want to fight the British and chose to go home. Washington murdered them on the charge of desertion, and this was before the US became a nation.

One of the great lies promoted back then and still in use today is that we live in a democracy where the people are represented by officials of their peers who represent the interest of the people.

In reality the politicians take bribes from special interests and other elitists and do what is in the best interest of them, (NOT THE PEOPLE). There has been a true democracy, and never will be, that’s a deception that the sheople have believed in since the beginning.

But this lie about democracy is used for evil purposes all over the world, just like it’s now being used in Iraq. They say we saved Iraq and gave them a true democracy, whereas in reality all they did was to murder hundreds of thousands of innocent victims, break in to their homes and terrorize them with depleted uranium and other poisonous toxic biochemical weapons that have destroyed their food, water, homes and jobs.

And this body of government is the same body you worship today. It’s called democracy and this is one reason why Russia and other countries said, they don’t want our form of democracy. Russia and other nations have their own sins to deal with; the last thing need is to add our sins to theirs.

And because of your biblical illiteracy and hatred of the truth you cling to the same philosophy as the other heathens who promote death and destruction or to put it another way “To win their hearts and minds of the people. Therefore one of the tools you use is the website you use as your home page in hopes it will deceive people into thinking you share in the compassion and sorrow of all those dead and dying children.

But once again your fraud is so obvious that your at par with little bush, because your SOLUTION is to support and promote more bodies of murderers, liars and criminals, such as your NOW cult.

The website itself is OK, it’s certainly not the best website, and there’s much information that it’s lacking and there is some misleading information contained therein, but the bulk of the message is in displaying the sick crimes of this government.

But what it LACKS is any kind of solution, and it misleads people terribly on who is really responsible. It’s called half truths, because while it points out the sins of bush, Cheney, etc. it FAILS to address the real problem and the real solution.

It’s a classic case of Hitlerism, where the sins of the bad guys are used in order to hype people up into frenzy so they can be quickly manipulated by the deceivers into winning their hearts and minds. Take em out of one prison and lead them into another.

Like Alex Jones, who will probably pull my post off this site for exposing his true nature, which is to use some truth to get people hyped up and angry and then lead them into his traps or better put his cult. And his cult is no better than the one the sheople just came out of.

Some people who have an once of wisdom can see through Alex’s OBVIOUS TRICKS, and lies and deception, as he too is following after the manner of his fore fathers in trying to win the hearts and minds of the people. It’s the same M.O. that has been used by every church, every government and every gang. Scare the hell out of people and convince them that they need a man to save them.

In fact Alex has gone so far as to suggest that he created the 9/11 truth movement, as if nobody else in the world could see the crimes of our own government or do any investigation. Maybe Alex invented the Internet and all the information that is stored on it. As if Alex is the only one who knows what really happened on 9/11.

But those are just cheap, classic hype and B.S. tricks that have been used throughout the centuries, like snake oil salesman who try to con people into thinking they have the only cure in the world. And they do these things to win the hearts and minds of the people or in other words recruit them into their cult.

It’s like the Protestants who recognized the murderous crimes and satanic behavior of the Catholic Church and formed their own cult. They used some truth about the evils of the Pope, but forgot to tell the people that they too were anti-christs as well. And now you have large bands of Protestants, who are just as evil and in some cases more so, than the Catholics.
In your case, as in the case of Alex, and little bush and other worshippers of dead demi-gods, it’s a classic case of using a little truth mixed in with a lot of lies in order to establish your satanic cult.

The problem is that people in general need to look in the mirror, examine themselves and take responsibility for their own sins. Instead of blaming all the troubles of the world on everybody else, we need to begin to confess our own sins and recognize that the devil is not some Hollywood cartoon character with red underwear, horns and a pitchfork, but in reality it’s the guy in the mirror, it is ourselves.

And instead of looking for a savior inside a cult, instead of seeking Christ in a man made church, temple made with human hands, they should listen to what the bible actually says.

2Corinthians 13:5 “Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates”?

But the problem is there’s no money in promoting the truth. How could the churches make merchandise out of you, how could they sell carved images and training materials if their flocks sought wisdom from God? And how could Alex Jones make any money if people realized they didn’t need him to provide information about 9/11?

How could Alex Jones sell advertising space if his little cult members realized that Alex is not the savior of the planet, he can’t even save himself, let alone anyone else.
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:47 pm | #

BTW Steve, if you will not listen to the masses of barbarians who are against NWO, listen to the words of some of your elite friends who are against it:
http://video.google.com/videopla...843179239& hl=en

Also look at what NWO does to other nations:

http://video.google.com/ videopla...591910224149865

Do you think these people want NWO?

How could you possibly quote bible text and support the end of nations' sovereinties?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 10:51 am | #

You use it to trick people into thiking that you are against war and blood shed and the murder of innocent children at a very superficial level, because when people click on your home page, (as I did) we naturally assume that this is either your website, or that you share in the things expressed therein. -steve
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Boy you just cannot stop bearing false witness can you.

I use the website to alert the world to the crimes against humanity inflicted by the elites in this country and thus the world. Whenever I am questioned about it or an assumption that it is mine is posted [like yours], I immediately remedy the ignorance as over 50% of people's homepages on blogs point to a site other than their own. That is why it is called a homepage [ever use ie, what does homepage mean???] and not "author's page" or some other better definition.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 10:43 am | #

Here's what bothers you is the fact that I EXPOSED YOU and your deception regarding the website. -steve
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Expose, expose...the more people go to website the better.

Please keep exposing and do my job for me!!!

Continue to expose, please keep reading it as you search relentlessly through the pictures of the children that die on orders of NWO elites. I beg of you to expose the site in its every corner, as it's author is no less than one of the 10 greatest patriots of our time.

I plead, and at your mercy for you to expose the site to all on your every waking hour as I try so desperately to as well.

Thank you, thank you, thank you...
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 10:38 am | #

But then, according to your very own words you openly state that you support the murderous crimes committed by the same body of government, IE; your for fathers.-Steve
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This is truly going beyond the absurd and as I will request again:

Is it possible for you to use any of the following in your posts:

logic

reality

references

evidenc

Or ya can keep rambling senselessly, I don't mind.
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As far as the website, please engulf yourself in the wisdom of our forefathers whose quotes are prominantly displayed throughout the pages (this is only a small sample - gonna read it all anytime soon?):

"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government,
so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution
so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."
- Thomas Jefferson http://masters-of-war.org/ deathc...athculture.html

"The opinions and dispositions of our people in general, which, in governments like ours, must be the foundation of measures, will always be interesting to me." - Thomas Jefferson http://masters-of-war.org/ deathc...thculture2.html

"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history,
whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."- Thomas Jefferson http://masters-of-war.org/war.html

"Of all the enemies of public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies. From these proceed debts and taxes.
And armies, debts and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the dominion of the few. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."- James Madison, the master builder of the U.S. Constitution, 1795 http://masters-of-war.org/war.html

"The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present.
The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion.
As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew.
We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." - Abraham Lincoln http://masters-of-war.org/ friend...dlyfascism.html

"A nation of well-informed men, who have been taught to know and prize the rights that God has given them cannot be enslaved.
It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins!"Benjamin Franklin http://masters-of-war.org/ friend...dlyfascism.html
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 10:34 am | #

sane,

Here's what bothers you is the fact that I EXPOSED YOU and your deception regarding the website.

You use it to trick people into thiking that you are against war and blood shed and the murder of innocent children at a very superficial level, because when people click on your home page, (as I did) we naturally assume that this is either your website, or that you share in the things expressed therein.

But then, according to your very own words you openly state that you support the murderous crimes committed by the same body of government, IE; your for fathers.

Your hypocrissy has been exposed even though you try so hard to cover it up with babel and confusion and menaingless double talk about things you know nothing about.

Jesus clearly promotes love, forgiveness, peace on earth, truth and righteousness, and the website that you fraudulently claim to be your home page also supports the true essence of His message, but with very own words you openly state your total hatred of His message and your love for the murderers who are currently at war with people all over the world.

On one hand I can assume your just a crazy, mixed up little boy that is so far out of touch with reality and human decency that your just playing games on the Internet, but on the other hand you need to be EXPOSED for what you are really promoting.

There are two basic paths an individual can choose to follow. One is to love one another, and the other is selfish greed, and evil world domination.

With your own words time and time again you confess with your mouth that you choose death and destruction, world domination, lies and deception and Satanic cults.

You behind the FREE-MASON cover that your fore fathers adhere to, and similar to their vices in which they USE the bible and USE the name of God and the name of Jesus in order to trick people into buying your B.S., but then because of you ignorance and lack of understanding you simply cannot help but expose your own wickedness and where you are coming from.

You should be ashamed of yourself when you see those pictures of those little children that your fore fathers cruely murdered, but you don't even blush, you don't seem to have a concious or a heart or a soul, just like your fore fathers who murdered innocent indians, and african slaves.

I feel sorry for you
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 3:19 am | #

And these are the people that you choose to worship as your heros and role models. Of course those types of thugs would down talk the bible and call Jesus names, because Jesus was contrary to everything they stood for.
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:37 am | #
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Is there a particular reason why you keep bearing false witness?

Please tell me where I used the word worship?

Also, do you have any idea how wrong you are about our forefathers and their view of death cults?

Would you like to give one reference for your "opinions" or perhaps lies?

I mean I guess I appreciate the effort for you also to blame tried and true system founded by the church in raping, pilaging, and converting, i.e. the catholic church. And the shameful stealing of the native americans land should never happened the way it did. But if we allow all the Papal NWO one world religion, we will truly know how they felt.

Do you think Germany needs to give up half its land to Israel to make up for the Papal's attrocities on them via their puppet hitler?

I mean really, what is your point:

George Washington went to some mason meetings and then they rewrote history to say he was into blood rituals and wanted this country to do the things it is doing today?

He was offered kingship and refused. Did you actually read the founding father's writings? There are many on Masters-of-war.org.

Is it possible for you to use any of the following in your posts:

logic

reality

references

evidenc

Or ya can keep rambling senselessly, I don't mind.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:40 am | #

"Sane, The founding fathers knew it well and the constitution allows for all the freedoms to us and thus the world".

Aren't you being rather hypocritical? I mean you are the one who is so strongly against the NWO and illuminati cults, and yet your founding fathers were FREE-MASONS cultists.

All you have to do is read their own words to discover they were all anti-christs and hypocrites, and this is one reason why christians are so patriotic, because they too are hypocritical ant-christs.

A true follower of Jesus Christ seeks to glorify God and not himself, whereas a christian is a self imposed title that is meant to bring glory and respect to themselves.

Someone with a true Christian heart does not think highly of himself, but rather understands that it is God Himself who is great and us humans all fall short of His glory and are not saved by our works, but only by God's grace and mercy and love.

It is a gift from God, that is given freely with no charge, however the worldly christians attempt to convince people that they are something special and that God chose them because they are so good.

These concepts may be a little hard for you to understand at this point, but you might want to consider your own parents, how they raised you and fed you and took care of you when you were a baby, because they loved you, not because you were a hard worker who could make a lot of money or help with the chores, but because they loved you.

In truth you used to crap your diapers, ball and cry and carry on and had to be fed, washed, burped, dressed, powdered, carried around. Grown-ups had to talk baby-talk with you, give you rattles and toys, and stuffed animals, and during those times you didn't do anything for them, financially or otherwise, but they put up with you because they loved you.

Now Juan Carlos Cruz, makes some pretty valid points about how the churches fleece the sheep or to put in other terms they are ravenous wolves in sheeps clothing, so you might do well to seek knwoledge about God from God Himself as opposed to some corrupt middle man who's trying to make a buck off you in Jesus holy living name.

The problem you have with the fantasies about your fore fathers is admitting the fact that they were lying, hypocritical, murderers, from satanic cults known as the FREE-MASONS, and other skull & Bones type false religions, just like bush and kerry are today.

You see one of the things that is so obvious by the words of Ben Franklyn, Abe, Thomas Payne, etc. is that they were not only biblically illiterate, but actually belonged to the synagouge of Satan.

Think about the hypocrissy. They murdered innocent Indians to steal their land, buffalo and gold, and they also ripped off the military in a variety of ways. They purposely gave them worthless $6. bills just to fake them out and lied to them and hyped them up so they would do their dirty work for them, just like today.

After the revolutionary war. GW, (George Washington) and Ben Franklyn and the other cult members kicked back with fortunes they made from the wars and stealing all the booty, while the continental army went back home, broke, wonded, sick and mentally scared for life. Just like our guys from Iraq.

Your fore fathers laughed all the way to the bank, just like bush, cheney and clinton and the rest of the GOOD OL BOYS.

Try to remember that your fore fathers also participated in killing and kidnapping innocent Aftricans, hauling them over seas to America, killing more, beating some, raping some and turning the rest into full time slaves.

And these are the people that you choose to worship as your heros and role models.

Of course those types of thugs would down talk the bible and call Jesus names, because Jesus was contrary to everything they stood for.
Steve | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:37 am | #

Sane, Jesus was the first socialist, and Judas the first capitalist. The true christians are known by their imitation of Jesus. If they don't live a life according to Jesus' teachings which were love, solidarity, cooperativism, mutualism, fraternity, and altruism they are not christians. Like the philosopher Nietzsche said: "The Christians Churches do the opposite of what Christ of Nazareth came to preach.". Most elitist bourgeiouse bible churches out there like Baptists, Church of Christ, Methodist, Mormons, Catholic, Churches of God, Yehowa Witnesses, etc. do the opposite of: love, solidarity, altruism, mutualism, forgiveness, morality etc. you can see it by going to any of those churches and how materialists, greedy, egocentric, unfriendly, bigot, chauvinist people are in those elitist churches. However there are a few chirstians, and churches out there who try to copy from Jesus the most they can, but only a few. But most do not, most elitist bible christians are like Pat Robertson and Bush
Juan Carlos Cruz | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 9:24 pm | #
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That is quite a phenonemal interepretation yet it veers wildly from the facts.

jesus was a non-violent freedom fighter.

He explained the way out from the materialism and shallow pleasures that are methods of control and allowed himself to pay an ultimate sacrifice to show how strongly it meant to him.

He showed so strongly how much we should take him seriously for these are truly evil men that are scheming against us.

A nice illuminati/NWO/jesuit trick is to boil everything down to left/right, conservative/liberal, white/black, etc. Then also showing that bot are bad and we need a new system. A new world order, to bring about peace.

It is a bullshit chaos paradigm proposal that holds no water.

Most pain and suffering is caused by less local rights and more centralized authority.

NWO offers the most evil extreme of this axiom.

The founding fathers knew it well and the constitution allows for all the freedoms to us and thus the world.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 10:09 pm | #

Sane: Hi, what a cool page the page 'Masters of Wars' with a lot of good info. I will spread it along my friends and families to help them wake up from their slumber. Keep fighting the Global Imperialist Fascists. They can kill a revolutionary, but not the revolution
Juan Carlos Cruz | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:25 pm | #

sane,
Please read every word as I have many times then I will be happy to have a discussion with you on it.

Someone once said an opinon is like a butthole, everyone has one.

So while I could tell you my interpretation of the bible and other words, you could tell me your interpretation, and even if we were both sincere about what we as individuals believed to be true the fact of the matter is that each look at things from our own perspective and our own life's experiences and biases.

I could tell you what I get out of that website on your home page, and you could tell me you get something completely different, and we could both be sincere about the way we perceive things, yet be completely different.

If I stood on the north corner and saw an accident, and you stood on the south corner and we both saw the same accident at the same time we might see things a little differently and yet we could both be honest about what we saw.

So instead of wasting time on meaningless debates regarding the perspectives we see things from I prefer to find COMMON THINGS so we can have a discussion that might be fruitful.

Whe the good folks at fox noise try to convince people that we are justified at the slaughtering of hundreds of thousands of innocent children in some of the most cruel and barbaric ways I naturally conclude they are viscous killers themselves in their hearts. Even if they don't physically do it, but sit back and let the US troops and mercenaries do it, they still support, endorce and promote it.

And I could spend centuries upon centries in trying to convince Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hamnity or Rush Limbaugh or Ann Culter that it is wrong, it is againsst God and against the teachings of Christ to murder innocent children for greed, power and oil, but all they have to say to me is that is only from my perspective and why should my perspective be any better than theirs.

So likewise, in my conversations with you I could also state over and over again how it's wrong to murder innocent people and it is against God completely, but all you have to do is continue to say, that's just my opinion and that because I believe in promoting love, good will, truth and justice and as much peace on earth as possible I must therefore be an evil New world order person.

So once again all I can say is if that's how you perceive me or anyone else that is against murder and mayhem and wickedness and lies then I guess you have a right to your opinion, however it's becoming painfully obvious that having a meaningful discussion may be almost impossible when someone has their mind stuck on NWO.

One thing you might keep in mind about your forefathers is that they too were free masons and originated from the cults you say you are strongly against, so it makes me wonder how you are able to justify following the works of men that are from the same place as the illuminati
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:15 pm | #

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eight Al Qaeda fanatics working for the police (but they don't dare sack them)
By STEPHEN WRIGHT
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ pages...ticle_id=466832
Up to eight police officers and civilian staff are suspected of links to extremist groups including Al Qaeda. Some are even believed to have attended terror training camps in Pakistan or Afghanistan. Their names feature on a secret list of alleged radicals said to be working in the Metropolitan and other forces. The dossier was drawn up with the help of MI5 amid fears that individuals linked to Islamic extremism are taking advantage of police attempts to increase the proportion of ethnic staff. Astonishingly, many of the alleged jihadists have not been sacked because - it is claimed - police do not have the "legal power" to dismiss them. We can also reveal that one suspected jihadist officer working in the South East has been allowed to keep his job despite being caught circulating Internet images of beheadings and roadside bombings in Iraq. He is said to have argued that he was trying to "enhance" debate about the war.

Classified intelligence reports raising concerns about police staff's background cannot be used to justify their dismissal, sources said. Instead, the staff who are under suspicion are unofficially barred from working in sensitive posts and are closely monitored. Political correctness is blamed for the decision not to sack them. It is widely feared that "long-term" Al Qaeda sleepers are trying to infiltrate other public sector organisations in the UK. In November last year, it was revealed that a leading member of an extremist Islamic group was working as a senior official at the Home Office. MI5 has warned in the past that suspects with "strong links" to Osama Bin Laden's killers have tried to join the British security services and, in January, exiled radical Omar Bakri claimed that Islamic extremists were infiltrating the police and other public sector organisations. Suspicions are growing that the gang behind the failed London bomb attacks could have received inside information about rescue procedures in the aftermath of an atrocity in the capital.

The Daily Mail can reveal that the second device parked near Haymarket was left at a designated "evacuation assembly point" where civilians and the emergency services would have gathered had the first bomb gone off. Investigators are trying to establish whether the bombers knew the significance of the location. Sources said it is unlikely that the Met is the only force which may have been infiltrated by Al Qaeda sympathisers. Omar Altimimi, a failed asylum seeker jailed for nine years yesterday for hoarding manuals on how to carry out car bombings, had applied to work as a cleaner for the Greater Manchester force. In a separate development, it is understood that a policeman was removed from his post after concerns about his conduct in the aftermath of a major anti-terrorist operation in the past two years.

For legal reasons, the Mail cannot reveal any more about the case. The MI5 list of suspected Islamists working in the police is said to have been drawn up in the aftermath of the 7/7 terror attacks in London. MI5 checked staff details at the Met and other forces with intelligence databases on individuals said to have attended radical Islamic schools - or Madrassas - and terror training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan. It is thought that intelligence files on those who frequently visit pro-Jihad websites and who have associated with so-called preachers of hate were also compared to details of officers and civilian staff in the Met. As a result of the review, eight officers and civilian staff were identified as Al Qaeda sympathisers or people of concern because of their links to Islamic extremists. The disclosure will raise concerns about the system for vetting new recruits, each of whom is the subject of counter-terrorism checks to ensure they are suitable to join the police. Scotland Yard's vetting unit is regarded as one of the best in the country.

But sources said it is often impossible to carry out satisfactory checks on recruits who were raised overseas or who have spent considerable periods out of Britain before applying to join the Met. In such cases, the Met has to rely on overseas agencies to carry out intelligence checks on their behalf. Privately, officials doubt whether certain countries in Africa, Middle East or the Indian sub-continent are able to carry out meaningful vetting. As a result of the Stephen Lawrence public inquiry report, which accused the Met of being "institutionally racist", Scotland Yard has in recent years employed thousands of officers and civilian staff from the ethnic minorities in an attempt to reach recruitment targets. A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "All employees upon joining the Met and during their careers undergo a range of security checks. These are robust and vary according to the type and sensitivity of individual postings. "We take matters of security very seriously and if an issue arises, people may be subjected to further assessment. "This may lead to restrictions in relation to where an individual works in the organisation or whether they are suitable to remain in the service."
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:56 pm | #

It appears by the website on your home, that the person who put it together understood some of the messages of Christ, as he said on many areas "NOT IN MY NAME"
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:32 pm | #
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Please read every word as I have many times then I will be happy to have a discussion with you on it.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:53 pm | #

It appears by the website on your home, that the person who put it together understood some of the messages of Christ, as he said on many areas "NOT IN MY NAME"
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:32 pm | #
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Thanks for the remedial lesson in an area of truth I live by.

Unfortunately again, the phrase not in my name applies to the planned NWO removal of the constitution "In his name."

Exactly the reason for the phrase "not in my name"

I have been reading the website and quoting it for more than 2 years. Please continue to try to "educate" me on the truew meaning of it as you continue to "educate" me on the true meaning of your interpretation of the bible.

It is becoming quite amusing.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:49 pm | #

sane,

If you really look at the website you should be able to see the spirit of truth flowing through, as he shows that the things christians and americans are doing are actually against God.

If you notice all the places where he portrays an image of Jesus and says "Not in my name" it should be obvious that he understands those murderous actions are anti-christ.

And with all that said I'll make a point here in that it is the heart of the person that matters, and not the title. It is through the heart that we interpret the bible, the constitution and everything else, and so when the heart is corrupted with greed, power, selfishness and murder then naturally the bible will be perverted and twisted and the true meaning altered.

John 15:12 "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you".

Even a verse as simple and straightforward as this can and is twisted 9 ways to Sunday by churches and biblically illiterate people all over the world, because their HEART is not right and is full of hypocrissy, etc.

Luke 11:39 "And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness".

Pretty cut and dry wouldn't you think? Another words all too many people put on a phony act of being a good christian on the outside while they are full of wickedness on the inside.

It appears by the website on your home, that the person who put it together understood some of the messages of Christ, as he said on many areas "NOT IN MY NAME"
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:32 pm | #

Keep the website going as sad as it is people should see it.
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:12 am | #
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I am incapable of such a feat, more info:

Bushwars
http://masters-of-war.org/war.html
Bushlies
http://masters-of-war.org/bushlies.html
Cheneylies
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sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:22 am | #

Sane,

I went to your home page website and offer my support to what you have displayed on their whole heartedly

http://masters-of-war.org/ deathc...thculture2.html

I didn't read everything on the page, but saw enough to know that the graphic illustrations of what we are doing to the children and adults is necessary because it makes people feel uncomfortable which is what needs to be done.

Too many people are sitting back in their easy chair, rooting for more bloodshed in the middle east like watching the super-bowl they want their team to win and have no clue what we are doing to the children, so the website up above is important to let people see the pain and misery they are causing.

I saw that Charlie Chaplin movie by the way and it was my favorite Chaplin movie of all time

Keep the website going as sad as it is people should see it.
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:12 am | #

Steve - join the fight...

Welcome to YourLeaders.org, a site cataloguing the lies, crimes, and scandals of your political "leaders".
http://www.yourleaders.org/
Our Mission: To make people lose their jobs. To clean out the rats and crooks in the government and send them to the unemployment line.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:45 am | #

Good night and may God bless you
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:15 am | #

And if I do not accept your saviour in my heart the way you want me to, you will burn me to save me...whooopeee.

Who exactly are you calling insane????

Dude, you are using the same arguments that the jesuits used for the inquisition and you know it, c'mon read Abraham Lincoln, I included him.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:19 am | #

James Madison
"Every new and successful example therefore of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance" ..........James Madison, 1822, Writings, 9:101

"Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history" ..........James Madison, undated, William and Mary Quarterly, 1946, 3:555

"Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."

"What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not." .........."A Memorial and Remonstrance", 1785

"Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." ..........."A Memorial and Remonstrance", 1785

"The appropriation of funds of the United States for the use and support of religious societies, [is] contrary to the article of the Constitution which declares that 'Congress shall make no law respecting a religious establishment'"..........James Madison, 1811, Writings, 8:133
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Thomas Paine
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church."

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."

"I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to that book (the Bible)."

"It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible."

"Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses. Here is an order, attributed to 'God' to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and to debauch and rape the daughters. I would not dare so dishonor my Creator's name by (attaching) it to this filthy book (the Bible)."

"Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins...and you will have sins in abundance."

"The Christian church has set up a religion of pomp and revenue in pretended imitation of a person (Jesus) who lived a life of poverty."
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:17 am | #

John Adams
"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?" ..........To F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816

"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved--the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!" ..........To Thomas Jefferson

"What havoc has been made of books through every century of the Christian era? Where are fifty gospels, condemned as spurious by the bull of Pope Gelasius? Where are the forty wagon-loads of Hebrew manuscripts burned in France, by order of another pope, because suspected of heresy? Remember the 'index expurgatorius', the inquisition, the stake, the axe, the halter and the guillotine." ..........To John Taylor
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Abraham Lincoln
"The bible is not my book and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long complicated statements of Christian dogma."

"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them."
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Benjamin Franklin
"The nearest I can make it out, 'Love your enemies' means, 'Hate your Friends'."

The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason. -- Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758

"If we look back into history for the character of the present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practiced it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England blamed persecution in the Romish Church, but practiced it upon the Puritans. They found it wrong in Bishops, but fell into the practice themselves both here (England) and in New England."

"As to Jesus of Nazareth...I think the system of morals and his religion, as he left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupting changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England, some doubts as to his divinity."

"I think vital religion has always suffered when orthodoxy is more regarded than virtue. The scriptures assure me that at the last day we shall not be examined on what we thought but what we did." ..........Letter to his father, 1738

"I cannot conceive otherwise than that He, the Infinite Father, expects or requires no worship or praise from us, but that He is even infinitely above it." .........."Articles of Belief and Acts of Religion", Nov. 20, 1728

"I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works ... I mean real good works ... not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing ... or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity." ..........Works, Vol. VII, p. 75
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:16 am | #

Insane,

The world belongs to the Creator, God almighty, His children call Him Father.

It's not the pope, or any man and it's not a man made doctrine called the new world order.

In fact it's not new at all, but God is the same yeterday, today and forever, the issue is that some people's eyes are closed because there worshiping false idols and such. And some people's eyes are begining to open and they understand that God is spirit and truth, and not some man or phony doctrine such as the new world order, etc.

You have some things correct, but your lacking in understanding that the TRUE GOD ALMIGHTY is not some man or some concept, but is in fact REAL and has always been in control of all of His creation.

The problem that many of us have, including the profits and apostles mentioned in the bible is trying to understand why God allows the wicked to prosper.

Job asks these very same questions as does Paul the Apostle and many others, just like we all do today.

But God reassures us that even though things seem hopeless in the world, there is always hop in Him. He also tells us that there will be tribulation in the world, but peace in Him.

Picture a nasty hurricane that spins around at hundreds of miles an hour. It's turbulent and destructive, but at the center, in the eye of the storm is peace and calm.

When we are in Christ, in the inner parts of our spirits there is peace and truth and understanding, but when we put our confidence in the works of mankind we will be terribly dissapointed.

I am not proposing that we do away with or dispose of the constitution or that we make a new one, what I am shining a little light on is the fact that only with God's help, grace and mercy, wisdom, truth and understanding can we accomplish anything lasting.

The pope is called holy father, which is against God and may also be a crime called identity theft. I don't advocate violence or vengeance, but simply understanding the difference between God and man. When we deny Christ we are anti-christ, that means against the truth.

So, I'm going bed Mr. Sane. If I wake up tomorrow (Lord willing) and I check this board, hopefully I can call you by a new name, Sane, instead of insane.

Your freind

Steve

Good night and may God bless you
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:15 am | #

And what did our founding fathers say about your philosophy:http://www.zenhell.com/GetEnlightened/ FoundingFathers/...Case 1, Thomas Jefferson
"But the greatest of all reformers of the depraved religion of his own country, was Jesus of Nazareth. Abstracting what is really his from the rubbish in which it is buried, easily distinguished by its lustre from the dross of his biographers, and as separable from that as the diamond from the dunghill, we have the outlines of a system of the most sublime morality which has ever fallen from the lips of man. The establishment of the innocent and genuine character of this benevolent morality, and the rescuing it from the imputation of imposture, which has resulted from artificial systems, invented by ultra-Christian sects (The immaculate conception of Jesus, his deification, the creation of the world by him, his miraculous powers, his resurrection and visible ascension, his corporeal presence in the Eucharist, the Trinity; original sin, atonement, regeneration, election, orders of the Hierarchy, etc.) is a most desirable object." ..........To W. Short, Oct. 31, 1819

"The Christian god is a three headed monster, cruel, vengeful, and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites."

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."

"Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus."

I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and state...........Letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, January 1, 1802

"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read, 'a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;' the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination."

"When we see religion split into so many thousands of sects, and I may say Christianity itself divided into it's thousands also, who are disputing, anathematizing, and where the laws permit, burning and torturing one another for abstractions which no one of them understand, and which are indeed beyond the comprehension of the human mind, into which of the chambers of this Bedlam would a man wish to thrust himself. The sum of all religion as expressed by it's best preacher, 'fear god and love thy neighbor,' contains no mystery, needs no explanation - but this wont do. It gives no scope to make dupes; priests could not live by it." ..........Letter to George Logan, November 12, 1816

"In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot ... they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purpose."..........To Horatio Spafford, March 17, 1814

"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." .........."Notes on Virginia"

"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." ..........To Peter Carr, Aug. 10, 1787

"It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they believe in the Platonic mysticisms that three are one, and one is three; and yet that the one is not three, and the three are not one. But this constitutes the craft, the power and the profit of the priests." ..........To John Adams, 1803

"But a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of the Jewish religion, before his principles were departed from by those who professed to be his special servants, and perverted into an engine for enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in Church and State." ..........To S. Kercheval, 1810

"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose." ..........To Baron von Humboldt, 1813

"On the dogmas of religion, as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarreling, fighting, burning and torturing one another, for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and to all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension of the human mind." ..........To Carey, 1816

"It is not to be understood that I am with him (Jesus Christ) in all his doctrines. I am a Materialist; he takes the side of Spiritualism; he preaches the efficacy of repentance toward forgiveness of sin; I require a counterpoise of good works to redeem it. Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others, again, of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being. I separate, therefore, the gold from the dross; restore him to the former, and leave the latter to the stupidity of some, the roguery of others of his disciples. Of this band of dupes and imposters, Paul was the great Coryphaeus, and the first corruptor of the doctrines of Jesus." ..........To W. Short, 1820

"The office of reformer of the superstitions of a nation, is ever more dangerous. Jesus had to work on the perilous confines of reason and religion; and a step to the right or left might place him within the grasp of the priests of the superstition, a bloodthirsty race, as cruel and remorseless as the being whom they represented as the family God of Abraham, of Isaac and of Jacob, and the local God of Israel. That Jesus did not mean to impose himself on mankind as the son of God, physically speaking, I have been convinced by the writings of men more learned than myself in that lore." ..........To Story, Aug. 4, 1820

"The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man. But compare with these the demoralizing dogmas of Calvin.
1. That there are three Gods.
2. That good works, or the love of our neighbor, is nothing.
3. That faith is every thing, and the more incomprehensible the proposition, the more merit the faith.
4. That reason in religion is of unlawful use.
5. That God, from the beginning, elected certain individuals to be saved, and certain others to be damned; and that no crimes of the former can damn them; no virtues of the latter save." ..........To Benjamin Waterhouse, Jun. 26, 1822

"Creeds have been the bane of the Christian church ... made of Christendom a slaughter-house." ..........To Benjamin Waterhouse, Jun. 26, 1822

"The truth is, that the greatest enemies of the doctrine of Jesus are those, calling themselves the expositors of them, who have perverted them to the structure of a system of fancy absolutely incomprehensible, and without any foundation in his genuine words. And the day will come, when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." ..........To John Adams, Apr. 11, 1823

"The metaphysical insanities of Athanasius, of Loyola, and of Calvin, are, to my understanding, mere lapses into polytheism, differing from paganism only by being more unintelligible."
..........To Jared Sparks, 1820
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:14 am | #

One more comment to specifically answer your question about my supposed desire to srart the new world order. But first give me a minute to stop laughing. OK, first of all I should have made it clear by now that I don't really have anything against the US constitution, it's the worshipping of it that is the problem. In fact even one of your gods Abraham Lincoln said the (If the people's hearts depart from the Lord this nation will be destroyed) I'm paraphrasing.Another words, even if the constitution was one of the best in the world, it doesn't matter if the people's hearts are corrupt.
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:29 am | #
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Oh great master of sanity Steve...

Why don't you give Lincoln's [who was killed by the jesuits] entire quote. Why so shy? And again why do you disobey the commandments that you profess to adhere to by saying I worship the constitution? And why don't you explain more fully about heart being corrupt. That sounds like an undefinable assessment of others which again would require an ultimate judging authority to judge, just like in Salem, the inquisition, the crusades, Nazi Germany, etc.

So then again which is it reinstating the constitution and ridding ourselves of the enemy or waiting for your one world papal assignment by your god to rule over all?

Or even something in the middle?

I am just curious how you guys think so I can understand more fully the plan.

So far you have been quite helpful.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:00 am | #

OK, last time, I will address all of your absurities as you still avoid the one question, how are your arguments NOT supporting NWO?
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You see regarding this government you really need to be honest with yourself and confess
Really???? I need to Confess????? A tradition created by the roman catholic antichrist to separate children from parents as they tell the church their secrets and hide more info from their parents???
it's not just little bush and cheney,
Oh really? Wow? Because of that we should have one ruler and NWO?
but if true justice were to be done in an attempt to adminster justice
Whose definition, yours or the constitution's???
then you'd have to arrest the whole white house for crimes against humanity, treason, murder, etc. etc.
What is the problem with that?
And you'd also have to arrest most all of the congress. All of the senate, because all participated in the treasonous crimes starting with 9/11.
Again, what is the issue with this? I do not see any problem with this, some will mnake deals and expedite the process and we can "clean house"
And most of the house of representatives, only excluding the ones who didn't vote for the Iraq and Afghanistan war and other criminal activities, such as the theft of resources belonging to a sovergn nation, not including our own tax payers.
No problems there.
And the judicial system also needs to be arrested for doing it's part to support these crimes.
Sounds good to me, of course people will fall into line with the constitution as soon as the first 50 arrests are made!
But wait there's more. You'd also have to arrest most of the CIA, FBI and NSA, and let us not forget FEMA, and da-da-da-daaaaa "Homeland Security"
Defunding and arresting the 10% that are the true criminals, sounds fucking good to me.
Then you'd have to arrest all the top brass in our armed services for derilection of duty. There supposed to protect the citizens from enemies at home and abroad.
Again the 10% true criminals, and the others will fall in line or also get arrested.
Then I'm sure there are countless other agencies who participated in aiding and abetting in mass murder, etc. There's not enough server space on the Internet to list all their crimes and participants.
Again a great plan, we can empty the prisons of all drug users and put ijn these guys, there is plenty of room, enough for 1,000,000.
Then you'd have to move on to the private sector, IE; Haliburton, Carlyle group, and let us not forget Diebold, bush's buddies who helped fix the elections. In fact I strongly reccomend grown-ups to check out this quick video of the computer guy who was hired to fix the elections...
Sounds good to me.
Now with all that said, you'd have to ask yourself the question, that even if some miraculous event happened that would enable us to arrest 95% of the US government, who would be willing to dupport it? The churches? No, they're guilty too. They've made billions in profits supporting anti-christ.
Outright lie, it is 10% and you know it. You are using the frickin sodom and gamorrah, Batman Begins theory. It is just simple chaos theory. You think that after we let the black pope cause all this shit, we are going to trust him to fix it. You are so full of crap.
How about the media? I don't think so, they too have profitted emensely from all the blood and destruction world wide.
5% tops
Sane, it's enough to drive a person INSANE when you really think about how many people need to be arrested for these crimes and how tragic it really is.
Not at all and we have the room for them, burning the constitution is only a way to get NWO into here and you know it.
And this is one reason why an honest person with common sense knows that ONLY GOD CAN SAVE US, and not an old chunck of paper that has been made null and void from the least of them even to the greatest.
Again you are perpetuating the NWO theory that the constitution is null and void. And that your god is the only thing that can save us. Save us with a fanatical religious NWO. For the life of me why are you hiding your true feelings?
However, with the knowledge of the true, one and only God almighty, the Creator of the universe, I am actually very optimistic, and not so defeatest as you seem to imply. Because I already know the that God has the victory and in His time truth and justice will prevail.
in other words: "I already know that my god will come down and declare NWO so I am optimistic"-??? that is your justification for cowardly not fighting for your rights under the constitution and stoppig others from doing the same, wow, brilliant.
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Why can't you just be honest and tell us all that 95% of the humans on this planet need to be slaughtered because they are corrupt and that your god is the one who will define who lives and who dies. Is this "Liam Neesam in Batman Begins" theory not your argument here???
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:52 am | #

Insane,

One more comment to specifically answer your question about my supposed desire to srart the new world order. But first give me a minute to stop laughing.

OK, first of all I should have made it clear by now that I don't really have anything against the US constitution, it's the worshipping of it that is the problem.

In fact even one of your gods Abraham Lincoln said the (If the people's hearts depart from the Lord this nation will be destroyed) I'm paraphrasing.

Another words, even if the constitution was one of the best in the world, it doesn't matter if the people's hearts are corrupt.
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:29 am | #

INSANE,

You see regarding this government you really need to be honest with yourself and confess that it's not just little bush and cheney, but if true justice were to be done in an attempt to adminster justice then you'd have to arrest the whole white house for crimes against humanity, treason, murder, etc. etc.

And you'd also have to arrest most all of the congress. All of the senate, because all participated in the treasonous crimes starting with 9/11.

And most of the house of representatives, only excluding the ones who didn't vote for the Iraq and Afghanistan war and other criminal activities, such as the theft of resources belonging to a sovergn nation, not including our own tax payers.

And the judicial system also needs to be arrested for doing it's part to support these crimes.

But wait there's more.

You'd also have to arrest most of the CIA, FBI and NSA, and let us not forget FEMA, and da-da-da-daaaaa "Homeland Security"

Then you'd have to arrest all the top brass in our armed services for derilection of duty. There supposed to protect the citizens from enemies at home and abroad.

Then I'm sure there are countless other agencies who participated in aiding and abetting in mass murder, etc. There's not enough server space on the Internet to list all their crimes and participants.

Then you'd have to move on to the private sector, IE; Haliburton, Carlyle group, and let us not forget Diebold, bush's buddies who helped fix the elections. In fact I strongly reccomend grown-ups to check out this quick video of the computer guy who was hired to fix the elections...
http://www.iwilltryit.com/fixed1.htm

Now with all that said, you'd have to ask yourself the question, that even if some miraculous event happened that would enable us to arrest 95% of the US government, who would be willing to dupport it? The churches? No, they're guilty too. They've made billions in profits supporting anti-christ.

How about the media? I don't think so, they too have profitted emensely from all the blood and destruction world wide.

Sane, it's enough to drive a person INSANE when you really think about how many people need to be arrested for these crimes and how tragic it really is.

And this is one reason why an honest person with common sense knows that ONLY GOD CAN SAVE US, and not an old chunck of paper that has been made null and void from the least of them even to the greatest.

However, with the knowledge of the true, one and only God almighty, the Creator of the universe, I am actually very optimistic, and not so defeatest as you seem to imply. Because I already know the that God has the victory and in His time truth and justice will prevail
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:18 am | #

insane, According to the very words taken from the chunk of paper that you worship as a god, the constitution should be abolished because the old one has been breached and is NULL AND VOID. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:52 am | #
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Wow, this is getting good, your words:

"... to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."

Now you know this is the only way that the NAU and thus the NWO can occur, for us to alter or abolish our completely workable constitution.

And stop outright lying [bearing false witness] by saying that I "...worship as a god..." the constitution as another cover for NWO.

Please show me where I said that I "worship as a god" the constitution.

The constitution is not a god, it is a document that defines our republic and has for over 200 years. 99% of our current problems can be associated with the neglect of the constitution. So again your solution falls into iluminati chaos theory:

Problem: politicians and government do not obey the constitution

Reaction: people become disenfranchised and rebel

Solution: NAU then NWO

How is this not what you are saying from your own statements, please educate me.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:11 am | #

Here is the bible link for audio narration and text http://www.iwilltryit.com/ bibleF...bibleFRAME2.htm when you get there just click OLD, (for old testament) then click Iasaiah, then click 44 for that chapter, or whatever other scripture you like. As Alex Jones says IT'S IN PLAIN SIGHT
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:48 am | #
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OK, so now we are getting somewhere...

You are saying that your personal religious beliefs are what makes the constitution null and void.

Is that to be my understanding?

So basically your are also saying that all sovereign states are null and void and that your interpretations of the old testament are to be the foundation of the NWO?

Is there anything that I am missing?

You are basically saying that even from the beginning of this republic, there was no real constitution because your interpretations of the old testament is and always has been the guiding factor of all countries and the separation of church and state.

thus NWO.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

You basically are quoting your interpretations of the old testament to say there is no constitution to begin with, again am I wrong?
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:03 am | #

Ron,

Regarding the corrupt Canadian media, I'm sure your probably correct, after all they sleep around with disease infected americans such as little bush and cheney, so naturally they too are infected with the plague. And that end time plague is lies, lies and more lies.
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:55 am | #

INSANE,

OK, here is one of the scriptures in the bible that discusses not just the US constitution, but mostly the people who worship it as a god.

Remember, your chunk of paper comes from a tree and a graven image is something that people write upon, like a constitution.

Isaiah 44:10-20 "Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing?

:11 Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed: and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together, let them stand up; yet they shall fear, and they shall be ashamed together.

:12 The smith with the tongs both worketh in the coals, and fashioneth it with hammers, and worketh it with the strength of his arms: yea, he is hungry, and his strength faileth: he drinketh no water, and is faint.

:13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house.

:14 He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it.

:15 Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto.

:16 He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire:

:17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god.

:18 They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.

:19 And none considereth in his heart, neither is there knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree?

:20 He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand?

Here is the bible link for audio narration and text

http://www.iwilltryit.com/ bibleF...bibleFRAME2.htm

when you get there just click OLD, (for old testament) then click Iasaiah, then click 44 for that chapter, or whatever other scripture you like.

As Alex Jones says IT'S IN PLAIN SIGHT
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:48 am | #

Ron. | 07.07.07 - 1:39 am | #
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C'mon Ron this is anew typr of disinfo dude who preaches a defeatest attitute toward defending the constitution to usher in the NWO or create some new BS document that has us bow to the pope or some other crap.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:41 am | #

>>>>Lesson on defending the republic from enemies foreign and domestic

Case study #2: Reread the Declaration of Independence
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

hen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these ColoniesFor taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:39 am | #

Steve: While you might trust the Canadian people more than your fellow Americans -just remember that the Canadian media is in many ways worse than the American media. The CBC (the public broadcaster) is a pro Globalist mouthpiece & its news programs are one one long pro Canada-State commercial. The Canadian State is seldom ever criticized.
Ron. | 07.07.07 - 1:39 am | #

>>>>Lesson on defending the republic from enemies foreign and domestic

Case study #1: Cromwell

“this is a righteous judgement of god upon these barbarous wretches, who have imbrued their hands in so much innocent blood....”
Oliver Cromwell after the storming of Drogheda.1649.

“i beseech you in the bowels of christ think it possible you may be mistaken.”
In a letter to the general assembly of the Church of Scotland. 1650.

“no one rises so high as he who knows not whither he is going.”
Cromwell on personal fortunes.

“you have been sat to long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, i say, and let us have done with you. In the name of god, go!.”
Addressing the rump parliament. April 1653.

“weeds and nettles, briars and thorns, have thriven under your shadow, dissettlement and division, discontentment and dissatisfaction, together with real dangers to the whole.”
Cromwell’s speech dissolving the 1st protectoral parliament.

“(kingship) is not so interwoven in in the laws...truly though the kingship be not a mere title but a name of office that runs through the whole of the law....as such a title hath been fixed, so it may be unfixed...”
Cromwell to the representatives of the second protectorate parliament, 13 April 1657.

“i desire not to keep my place in this government an hour longer than i may preserve england in it’s just rights, and may protect the people of god in such a just liberty of their consciences....”
Cromwell to the first protectorate parliament, 22 January 1655.

“in every government there must be somewhat fundamental, somewhat like a magna charta, that should be standing and unalterable...that parliaments should not make themselves perpetual is a fundamental.”
Cromwell in a speech to the first protectorate parliament, 12 September 1654.

“there are some things in this establishment that are fundamental....about which i shall deal plainly with you...the government by a single person and a parliament is a fundamental...and..though i may seem to plead for myself,yet i do not:no, nor can any reasonable man say it..i plead for this nation, and all the honest men therin..”
Cromwell to the first protectorate parliament, 12 September 1654.

“if the remonstrance had been rejected i would have sold all i had the next morning and never have seen England more, and i know there are many other modest men of the same resolution.”
Oliver Cromwell on parliament’s passing of the revolutionary grand remonstrance, quoted in the earl of Clarendon, a history of the rebellion.
The English civil war.

“i had rather have a plain russet-coated captain that knows what he fights for, and loves what he knows, than that which you call a gentleman and is nothing else.”
Letter from Cromwell to Sir William Spring. Sept. 1643.

“we study the glory of god, and the honour and liberty of parliament, for which we unaminously fight, without seeking our own interests....i profess i could never satisfy myself on the justness of this war, but from the authority of the parliament to maintain itself in its rights; and in this cause i hope to prove myself an honest man and single-hearted.”
Oliver Cromwell to Colonal Valentine Walton. 5 or 6 September 1644.

“i could not riding out alone about my business, but smile out to god in praises, in assurance of victory because god would, by things that are not, bring to naught things that are”.
Cromwell before the battle of Naseby. 1645.

“we declared our intentions to preserve monarchy, and they still are so, unless necessity enforce an alteration. It’s granted the king has broken his trust, yet you are fearful to declare you will make no further addresses. .....look on the people you represent, and break not your trust, and expose not the honest party of your kingdom, who have bled for you, and suffer not misery to fall upon them for want of courage and resolution in you, else the honest people may take such courses as nature dictates to them.”
Cromwell’s speech in the commons during the debate which preceeded the “vote of no addresses”, recorded in the diary of John Boys, MM for Kent.

“since providece and necessity has cast them upon it, he should pray god to bless their councels.”
Cromwell on the trial of King Charles I. Dec. 1648.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:36 am | #

Insane,According to the your constitution it is NULL AND VOID, because it has been BREACHED and unable to accomplish the goals it was designed to do. Even long before little bush was born there were breaches, however just begining with 9/11 alone the constitution was breached and became NULL AND VOID. And here's why, little bush committed treasonous acts numerous times starting with 9/11 and the congress has FAILED to hold him accountable and the judicial system has also failed to uphold it's responsibilities. The constitution may have been a nice pipe dream of your forefathers, however in reality it FAILED TO PERFORM and therefore has become null and void and unable to live up to it's intended purpose. Much like a business contract there are clauses and such that will terminate the contract upon certain breaches, which is the case in our government today.Take a strong look at some of these articles from your magical document and understand they have been breached by all branches of government. And here's why THEY ALL TAKE BRIBES, THEY ALL SOLD OUT a long time ago.-Steve
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Please tell me the other websites believe this crap.

Because corrupt politicians committed treason by disobeyeing the constitution of our republic, then the entire thing is null and void with no restitution?????

And you are quoting business contract law [which is also governed under the constitution of the USA] as your defending argument?

Dude you got so many layers of bullshit coming out of you, I highly recommend an enema.

Did you breach it, did I breach it?

You are saying we should be slaves because someone else breached it?

The constitution defines our republic and our inalienable rights within it.

It seems we are currently occupied by an enemy foreign and domestic being controlled out of the vatican I would guess. We need to non-violently protest the occupation of our free land and regain our freedoms under the constitution.

Why do you fear the constitution, what about it troubles you so much? You preach freedom and the casually declare the constitution null and void in the same breadth. Since you are so in control of your mental facilities, ya care to answer that one sparky?
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:33 am | #

Insane,

According to the your constitution it is NULL AND VOID, because it has been BREACHED and unable to accomplish the goals it was designed to do.

Even long before little bush was born there were breaches, however just begining with 9/11 alone the constitution was breached and became NULL AND VOID.

And here's why, little bush committed treasonous acts numerous times starting with 9/11 and the congress has FAILED to hold him accountable and the judicial system has also failed to uphold it's responsibilities.

The constitution may have been a nice pipe dream of your forefathers, however in reality it FAILED TO PERFORM and therefore has become null and void and unable to live up to it's intended purpose.

Much like a business contract there are clauses and such that will terminate the contract upon certain breaches, which is the case in our government today.

Take a strong look at some of these articles from your magical document and understand they have been breached by all branches of government. And here's why THEY ALL TAKE BRIBES, THEY ALL SOLD OUT a long time ago.

Breach of the constitution

Article II section 1 paragraph 6

In case of the removal of the President from office, or of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the powers and duties of the said office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by law provide for the case of removal, death, resignation or inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what officer shall then act as President, and such officer shall act accordingly, until the disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

Section 2

The trial of all crimes, except in cases of impeachment, shall be by jury; and such trial shall be held in the state where the said crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any state, the trial shall be at such place or places as the Congress may by law have directed.

Section 3.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

Article IV

Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:12 am | #

sane,

Or should I call you INSANE. - Steve
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I love when just some old guy on the internet uses AEI and Monarch's false memory type BS to call people insane for telling the truth [or in this case for letting everyone know what the exact wording of the constitution is].

I much prefer posting the constitution then Paris Hilton stories. Maybe if more people did that then GW would be forced into his servitude to us and obey the consatitution.

He is a servent to us, we are free and servents to no man.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 12:57 am | #

The issue is not about the constitution, the issue is about live human beings today, because human beings can either use the constitution for good or for evil, just ask your brither GW how he uses the constitution.
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 12:39 am | #
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Thus my point...

You are obviously intelligent so it cannot be stupidity. You must be lying directly to everyone.

The constitution is quite specific and GW in no way whatsoever uses the constitution.

He directly disobeys it and you know it.

Nancy is baught off by the jesuit owned CFR so she will not abide by the constitution.

If we just enforce the rules of this republic that has protected us for so long, none of this crap would be happeniung and you know it.

So why are you lying and promoting yourself as all knowing.

Why do you wish to oppress us with your specific religious belief.

The constitution protects your belief and the 300 million other americans, but you are saying it is null and void just like Bush.

You still just keep saying...

I am a good christian believe in me for god will come and kill the wicked.

Well maybe 300 million americans are not going to wait for YOUR god to enact YOUR beliefs by having YOU decide how to commence KILLING at least 200 million americans and enslaving the rest.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 12:53 am | #

sane,

Or should I call you INSANE.

The issue is not about the constitution, the issue is about live human beings today, because human beings can either use the constitution for good or for evil, just ask your brither GW how he uses the constitution.

It's the spirit and heart of individuals who interpret and/or apply the rules set forth in the constitution that matter.

But if your still convinced that a piece of paper with ink on it can do magical things to bring forth justice then you better take a closer look at the white house, the congress and the judicial system. They have all trampled on the constitution and made up their own rules and interpretations.

So you can cut and past as many copies of the constitution as you like, but it's not going to force your buddy, GW to follow it.

According to scriptures GW and his buddies don't listen to God or man, they exalt themselves as they go and make up their own rules however they like.

Why don't you send a copy of the constitution to George or the other branches of government and see if that document will change their attitude and make them follow the rules.

I'm just some old guy on the Internet, that knows a chunk of paper can do nothing no matter what date is on it or who signed it, or what their intentions were of the people who wrote it, so I'm the least of your worries. You might want to keep an eye on the people who SWORE to uphold that chunk of paper. You the guys who you are giving your tax dollars to.
Steve | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 12:39 am | #

The Constitution of the United States of America

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Article I

Section 1. All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Section 2. The House of Representatives shall be composed of members chosen every second year by the people of the several states, and the electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the state legislature. No person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty five years, and been seven years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state in which he shall be chosen. Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included within this union, according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in such manner as they shall by law direct. The number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty thousand, but each state shall have at least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the state of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three. When vacancies happen in the Representation from any state, the executive authority thereof shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies. The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers; and shall have the sole power of impeachment.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 12:14 am | #

Section 3. The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the legislature thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. Immediately after they shall be assembled in consequence of the first election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three classes. The seats of the Senators of the first class shall be vacated at the expiration of the second year, of the second class at the expiration of the fourth year, and the third class at the expiration of the sixth year, so that one third may be chosen every second year; and if vacancies happen by resignation, or otherwise, during the recess of the legislature of any state, the executive thereof may make temporary appointments until the next meeting of the legislature, which shall then fill such vacancies. No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the age of thirty years, and been nine years a citizen of the United States and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state for which he shall be chosen. The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided. The Senate shall choose their other officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the office of President of the United States. The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present. Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States: but the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law.

Section 4. The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by law make or alter such regulations, except as to the places of choosing Senators. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

Section 5. Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide. Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member. Each House shall keep a journal of its proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such parts as may in their judgment require secrecy; and the yeas and nays of the members of either House on any question shall, at the desire of one fifth of those present, be entered on the journal. Neither House, during the session of Congress, shall, without the consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

Section 6. The Senators and Representatives shall receive a compensation for their services, to be ascertained by law, and paid out of the treasury of the United States. They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place. No Senator or Representative shall, during the time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time: and no person holding any office under the United States, shall be a member of either House during his continuance in office.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 12:13 am | #

Section 7. All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills. Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the objections at large on their journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the bill, it shall be sent, together with the objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a law. But in all such cases the votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and nays, and the names of the persons voting for and against the bill shall be entered on the journal of each House respectively. If any bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a law, in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a law. Every order, resolution, or vote to which the concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the same shall take effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the rules and limitations prescribed in the case of a bill.

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; To borrow money on the credit of the United States; To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes; To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States; To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures; To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States; To establish post offices and post roads; To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries; To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court; To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations; To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water; To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years; To provide and maintain a navy; To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces; To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

Section 9. The migration or importation of such persons as any of the states now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each person. The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it. No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed. No capitation, or other direct, tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken. No tax or duty shall be laid on articles exported from any state. No preference shall be given by any regulation of commerce or revenue to the ports of one state over those of another: nor shall vessels bound to, or from, one state, be obliged to enter, clear or pay duties in another. No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law; and a regular statement and account of receipts and expenditures of all public money shall be published from time to time. No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

Section 10. No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility. No state shall, without the consent of the Congress, lay any imposts or duties on imports or exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection laws: and the net produce of all duties and imposts, laid by any state on imports or exports, shall be for the use of the treasury of the United States; and all such laws shall be subject to the revision and control of the Congress. No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power, or engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay.
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Article II

Section 1. The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.

The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such majority, and have an equal number of votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by ballot one of them for President; and if no person have a majority, then from the five highest on the list the said House shall in like manner choose the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by States, the representation from each state having one vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. In every case, after the choice of the President, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal votes, the Senate shall choose from them by ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States.

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

In case of the removal of the President from office, or of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the powers and duties of the said office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by law provide for the case of removal, death, resignation or inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what officer shall then act as President, and such officer shall act accordingly, until the disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that period any other emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.

The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session.

Section 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.

Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
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Article III

Section 1. The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.

Section 2. The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.

In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.

The trial of all crimes, except in cases of impeachment, shall be by jury; and such trial shall be held in the state where the said crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any state, the trial shall be at such place or places as the Congress may by law have directed.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
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Article IV

Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

Section 2. The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.

A person charged in any state with treason, felony, or other crime, who shall flee from justice, and be found in another state, shall on demand of the executive authority of the state from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.

No person held to service or labor in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due.

Section 3. New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States, or of any particular state.

Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.
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Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
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Article VI

All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
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Article VII

The ratification of the conventions of nine states, shall be sufficient for the establishment of this Constitution between the states so ratifying the same.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 12:05 am | #

sane, We all have to start with looking in the mirror first and once that man of sin is revealed, (which is our own selves) then we can begin to understand the truth and even be able to forgive others
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:47 pm | #
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Wait so you are for the constitution, the bill of rights, habeus corpus, fighting for our inalienable rights by promoting truth and justice. The separation of Church and State, the abolishment of FIAT money, and national sovereignty for all nations and the banishment of the papal doctrine as the pope is not jesus?

And in forgiveness the total banishment of the thought that any man can expedite an execution by using perverted interpretations of old tests as a veil of justification.

Is that what you are saying?
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:53 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:49 pm | #

sane, When Jesus said "Take the plank out of your own eye first" you might do well to look deep in the mirror and discover that satan is the guy looking back at you. Then with this new found realization of the truth you can proceed to better understand how other little devils think and feel.
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:39 pm | #
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C'mon why are you pussyfooting around the issue, that all you got?????

I am the devil????

The one who is relentlessly posting truth and promoting non-violent opposition as was taught by jesus, MLK, Gandhi. This is what you call satanistic, uncovering the books that teach us about our lives and where we came from rather than the jesuits who have been controlling the educational systems for 100 years.
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:45 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:42 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:40 pm | #

Video about the killing of Boer farmers here at Video Google from Sky News.

Video of the Carte Blanche program here.

Picture of a November Boer Protest amid Republican era flags.

Their present will be North America's future considering the recent push to pass amnesty legislation which would start the clock on what limited sovereignty you have left.
Ron. | 07.06.07 - 11:40 pm | #

#2 I'm biased about Canada and generally like people from Canada more than people in my own corrupt country of the USA.-steve

I am confused I thought you said the constitution is null and void, does this not mean we are currently under NWO rule or at least NAU making Canada and USA the same thing?
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:39 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:37 pm | #

Ron,

I must confess that I don't know all the facts abou Mandella good or bad, and it's quite possible your information is correct, I simply have not spent enough time researching that guy to know one way or another.

But there are two things I like about you and your posts.

#1 You don't trust the media on it's face value and understand they can be propoganda machines.

#2 I'm biased about Canada and generally like people from Canada more than people in my own corrupt country of the USA.

I know there's always exceptions to the rule and there are murderers and other criminals even in Canada and that the US doesn't have a complete exclusive on sicko, child killers, although we seem to be riding high in the number one spot for now.

And even in the media, even on fox news they might be dishonest 99.999% of the time, but every once in a while they might accidentally say something truthful by accident.

I don't want to exclude the other media outlets by the way, because they all whore after the beast, and fox noise doesn't have an exclusive on BBBSSS but like the USA they're riding high in the number one spot in that arena, with CNN closely behind.

Bottom line, I just don't know either way about Mandella, but he doesn't seem to be much of an issue on my priorities
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:35 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:33 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:32 pm | #

God is not a respector of persons. - Steve

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sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:31 pm | #

But you won't even know what hit you because you'll be too busy looking for satanists who wear long black robes and wear pentagrams
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:22 pm | #
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Nope, I will be looking for the "clean skin" satanists as well as the Lavay types:
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sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:30 pm | #

sane,

Let me ask you a question.

What's difference between getting slaughtered in a cruel manner, vicously torn to pieces by a guy who claims to be a christian and a guy who claims to be a satanist???

Self imposed titles don't mean a hill of beans, because God is not a respector of persons.

It's the heart that matters my boy. And believe it or not but everybody has a heart no matter what kind of self imposed title they happen to give themself.

In reality any person taking on the title of satanist is just a little pink kid who is decieved and is trying to win the approval of other idiot kids, but there is no power in satanism whatsoever, at all.

And the same goes with christians or jews. They are simply self imposed titles that people give themselves in order to try and impress people, but in reality it means nothing.

Now I might say that at least the christians and the jews seem to acknowledge the correct doctrine and the right prophets and apostles, and on the surface they may quote good and truthful scriptures, whereas the satanists are already admitting to be following a stupid childish pile of garbage and nonsense.

But at least with the satanist you know right from the get go where the guy is comming from and you'd know better than to leave your child with him or her to be baby-sat, whereas a lot of christians and jews might be trusted by unsuspecting parents only to discover later that they were wolves in sheeps clothing.

Sane, it sounds to me like you've been playing to many video games and can't seem to be able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality, as there are many childish games out there that display the satanists as the viscous killers and the christians the good guys.

Ever heard the slogan "Don't judge a book by it's cover"?

If you ever bothered to read the bible instead of sitting on your duff making fun of it you would find that satan, otherwise known as the serpant is the most subtle and cunning and that he comes in peacably by intrigue. He looks like a lamb, but speaks as a dragon.

The point is this, while your all wrapped up in your little comic book satan games it's the preists in the pretty white robes that you trust who'll be bending you over and driving you to Newark. or on an economic front, it's the evangelical christians who'll be offering you "E" tickets to heaven while their reaching their dirty little paws in your wallet.

But you won't even know what hit you because you'll be too busy looking for satanists who wear long black robes and wear pentagrams
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:22 pm | #

Steve: The very point I was making was that you can not trust what the mainstream media states. True: they lied about Saddam & WMD & bin Laden but they also lied about Mandela & the ANC. Furthermore there is no "president" where I live as I live in Canada.

< I wouldn't lean on your own wisdom, because you got that information drilled into your head for years by a corrupt media that spews propoganda
24-7. >

This is where you are so wrong again. In fact it was quite the opposite. I grew up with information "drilled" into my head about how wonderful
Mandela & the ANC was. It was not until I began to do my own research that I discovered how we were lied to on this front as well. Mandela was
indeed a terrorist who even admitted his role publicly in the past while Canadian MP's like that odious John McCallum excused the violent action of Mandela on live television before a national audience when he was confronted with Mandela's true past by MP Rob Anders in mid 2001. Even researchers live David Icke have exposed the Mandela Myth & the truth about South Africa. The fact of the matter is that my initial research into the truth about South Africa starting about 13 years ago was where I first truly became informed of the drive towards a New World Order as this was their most successful testing region.

Though I have some Boer ancestors of French Huguenot origin: I did not become interested in researching the history of South Africa until I saw the live televised lowering of the old South African national flag. Since I was a beginner vexillogist: I suddenly realized that I had no idea what the other two flags next to the British flag in the center of the national flag represented. Needless to say I was surpized to discover that they were the flags of two formerly independent Boer Republics that Britain has conquered at the turn of the 20th cent. I did not even then really know who the Boer people were of if they still existed in any form. I later discovered that the Boers still do exist in some form but was shocked to discover that they were politically dominated by their numerically larger Afrikaner cousins who took control of the macro British State after the Boers were left destitute & homeless after the second Anglo-Boer War. Just a few years ago I discovered that half of the total Boer child population died in the concentration camps which explains why the neo colonial (formerly pro British & often anti-Boer) Cape based Afrikaners came to dominate not just the macro state but even the remnant Boers so well.

There are quite a number of modern Boers who are breaking away from the Afrikaners & attempting at standing on their own again as they had in the past. Which is the reason why I posted a link to an image of a recent Boer Protest march in Pretoria from this past November.

Picture of the Orange Free State Flag during past November Boer protest.

The orange & white striped flag in the middle of the two young Boer boys is the Orange Free State flag / Vierkleur (four colour) of the Orange Free State (Oranje Vrij Staat in Dutch & Oranje Vry Staat in Afrikaans) which existed from Feb 23 1854 until it was conquered by the British Empire on May 31 1902. The Orange Free State flag / Vierkleur was adopted on Feb 23 1857 on the third anniversary of the republic. The Orange Free State did not have to enter into the war between the Transvaal Republic (the ZAR) & Britain but chose to do so as a matter of honour. President Marthinus Steyn of the OFS said in the Volksraad (the Boer Parliament of the OFS) that he would rather lose the independence of the OFS with honour than to keep it in dishonour & disloyalty. Though the fact of the matter is that the OFS had to came ot the military aid of the ZAR because of a formal political agreement that former President F W Reitz of the OFS signed with President Paul Kruger of the ZAR. Though I have often speculated that it would probably have been better for the Boers as a people had the OFS remained neutral.

I really hope that some of you found this brief history lesson informative as I have become very interested in South Africa & the future of the Boer people / culture especially when considering that Gregory Stanton of Genocide Watch has publicly stated that the killing of Boer farmers constitutes a genocide under the Genocide Convention.

I do not know if many of you realize it or not but the Boer people are feeling the brunt of Globalist machinations to created a New World Order since in order for the Globalists to truly get their way in southern Africa: the Boers are being eliminated. Remember that the true goal of the so called "liberation movements" in Africa have been to place into power those (ie: Mandela / Mugabe / Njumo etc) who would destroy the local societies in order to help advance the agenda of the Global elites. While the Afrikaners ran Apartheid South Africa & the Boers were marginal players who were largely stripped of their identity -though not entirely- the Boers are targeted for elimination due to the fact that they are far more independence oriented (thus unintegrateable into the NWO) while the bulk of the Afrikaners are too happy to be integrated into the NWO control grid.

Though some Boers think that they are the only or main targets of the New World Order & do not always appear to realize that the NWO plan entails the eventual subjugation of everyone on the planet. The Boers just happen to be one of the first in line to be subjugated by those who have similar plans for the whole planet.
Ron. | 07.06.07 - 11:09 pm | #

Vatican Assassins Part I: History Of The Jesuit Order 1 hr 38 min - May 2, 2007 -
http://video.google.com/ videopla...718758076053201
Vatican Assassins 2: History of the Jesuit Order 1 hr 38 min - May 2, 2007 -
http://video.google.com/ videopla...631918236602056
Vatican Assassins Part 3: History Of the Jesuit Order 1 hr 13 min - May 2, 2007 - (17 ratings)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...620210554455746
Part II Who Infiltrated America? Jesuits? Zionists? Illuminati? NWO? 27 min - Jul 11, 2006
http://video.google.com/ videopla...580172028011390
Part II Who Infiltrated America? Jesuits? Zionists? Illuminati? NWO? 39 min - Jul 21, 2006 - (124 ratings)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...809713202851835
Jasenovac - The Vatican's Holocaust in Croatia full version (Jesuits) 19 min - Oct 12, 2006
http://video.google.com/ videopla...984528319702631
Skull and Bones 17 min - May 2, 2007
http://video.google.com/ videopla...108670025275462
The Scarlet Threat 9 min - Apr 8, 2007
http://video.google.com/ videopla...356885537441819
Who Controls The World? Illuminati, Jesuits, Bilderberg, Church, Skull, Religion 43 Min - March 11, 2006
http://video.google.com/ videopla...535120990840079
Conspiracies - The Illuminati - Our Secret Masters 45 min - Apr 15, 2006
http://video.google.com/ videopla...135823382973183
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 11:07 pm | #

>>>>Jesuits Sink the Titanic to Get the Federal Reserve
World Mysteries - WHO SUNK THE TITANIC?, an article by Doug YurcheyThe above title does not read: What sunk the Titanic? It says: Who? ... Not only were these enemies of the Jesuits against a Federal Reserve Bank, ...
http://www.world-mysteries.com/ d...ug_titanic1.htm
THE SINKING OF THE TITANICJ.P. Morgan was ordered by the Jesuits to build the Titanic. .... By April, 1912, all opposition to the Federal Reserve was eliminated. In December of 1913, ...
http://www.pacinst.com/terrorist...r5/ titanic.html
The Sinking Of TitanicThe establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank was a JESUIT ORDER’s MASTERPIECE. The Sinking Of Titanic is a JESUIT ORDER’s TREACHERY AT ITS FINEST. ...
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/...org/ titanic.htm
Vatican Assassins - jesuits,kennedy assassination, nights of malta ...While in Command of His Jesuit-trained Most Obedient Servant: ... Federal Government and War Machine, Federal Reserve Banking System, ...
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/
You Think You've Heard Some Good Conspiracies?These three men were coaxed and encouraged to board the Titanic. Not only were these enemies of the Jesuits againts the Federal Reserve Bank, but they would ...
http://www.rense.com/general70/goodc.htm
The Arctic Beacon - Jesuit Confession 1212: Did The Jesuit Order Mastermind The Sinking Of The Titanic? ... Not only were these enemies of the Jesuits against a Federal Reserve Bank, ...
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/conf...-July- 2006.html
The Arctic Beacon - Jesuit Confession 8With the wealth of the Federal Reserve, Stalin was successfully raised to power. .... Captain Edward J. Smith - Captain of the Titanic and Jesuit Priest. ...
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/conf...-June- 2006.html
The Sinking Of Titanic JESUITS TREACHERY AT ITS FINEST ... By April, 1912, all opposition to the Federal Reserve was eliminated. In December of 1913, ...
http://profile.myspace.com/ index...iendID=81621408
Maniacal World Control Thru The Jesuit Order: Well Hidden Soldiers ...How do we know that the Jesuits control the Federal Reserve Bank? ... the Jesuit Provincial Francis M. Browne, was on the Titanic taking pictures of all ...
http:// www.theforbiddenknowledge...rld_control.htm
The Jesuit OrderHe was the one who gave the order and oversaw the sinking of the Titanic. ... How do we know that the Jesuits control the Federal Reserve Bank? ...
http://proutnewsnetwork.org/NWO/...es/ jesuits.html
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 10:46 pm | #

Anybody who says the bible implies murderers should not be executed does not know the bible nor believe in God, but only in the fairy tale traditions of men
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 9:44 pm | #

Just remember that thinking caused every picture on my homepage, more here:

Bushwars
http://masters-of-war.org/war.html
Bushlies
http://masters-of-war.org/bushlies.html
Cheneylies
http://masters-of-war.org/ cheney...cheneylies.html
Incurious George
http://masters-of-war.org/ incuri...iousgeorge.html
St. George
http://masters-of-war.org/stgeorge.html
King George (the madness of)
http://masters-of-war.org/madness.html
George the Lionheart and the New Crusades
http://masters-of-war.org/bushgod.html
George of Orwell
http://masters-of-war.org/ george...geoforwell.html
Georgie Warbucks
http://masters-of-war.org/ GEORGI...20WARBUCKS.html
George W. Hoover
http://masters-of-war.org/George....% 20Hoover.html
Vanishing Votes
http://masters-of-war.org/ vanish...shingvotes.html
Death Culture
http://masters-of-war.org/ deathc...athculture.html
911 Accountability
http://masters-of-war.org/ 911ACC...UNTABILITY.html
(Not-so) Friendly Fascism
http://masters-of-war.org/ friend...dlyfascism.html
Project For A New American Perpetual War
http://masters-of-war.org/pnac.html
Fanning the Flames of Fear, Loathing and Terror
http://masters-of-war.org/ osamaw...mawantsyou.html
T h e C o l l a t e r a l C h i l d r e n
http://masters-of-war.org/ deathc...thculture2.html
About This Site: A Gathering Danger
http://masters-of-war.org/ aboutt...utthissite.html
Seeing how incredibly uninformed and misinformed so many Americans seem to be, I felt strongly, desperately even, the need to get this this information out to people, to wake them up to this danger, so that we might form some sort of defense against this fast creeping, ever growing threat. And like Bill Moyers, I believe that defense has to begin with information: i.e., the truth. I realize I'm just Some Guy, Joe Average Citizen, with even less credibility than Dick Cheney. You may think I'm overstating, exaggerating, hysterical, even paranoid; but I don't expect you to take my word for it. That's why this introduction, (and this site) is bolstered with quotes and interviews with Smart People, people like Walter Cronkite, Bill Moyers, Kurt Vonnegut, Nelson Mandela and the Mayor of London. People who know a little of what's going on. People who are telling us the danger is real, and it's now. You don't have to take my word for anything. But I hope you'll listen and hear them. Your freedom, and your life, and the lives of your family, and the survival of our democracy, our country, and our planet, depend on it. To continue following them down their path of greed, fear and violence can only ultimately destroy us all, in a vicious downward spiral of endless lies, terrorism and war. Did we learn nothing from the example of Israel and Palestine? Did we learn nothing from Vietnam? Did we learn nothing from Watergate and October Surprise and Iran Contra? Did we learn nothing from the the assisted coups and the collusions with dictators and death squads in South and Central America, whose greatest enemies were true Christians and missionaries? Did we learn nothing from the example of Germany in the 1930's? What have we become? What have we allowed ourselves to become? Caught between the comfort of our delusions and the anxiety of fears stoked by our court-appointed rulers, we have blindly followed them down a dark path, possibly of No Return. With fear as a prod, we're being lured into a monumental quagmire--not just in Iraq--but, likely, a world wide conflagration--as in World War III.

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Joseph Barney began his career as an illustrator at Continuity Associates in New York, the commercial art studio commandeered by comics legend Neal Adams. He also worked on Madison Avenue, turning out hundreds of storyboards and 'animatics' for TV commercials. He free-lanced as a comic book penciller as well, working on such famous Marvel Comics characters as The Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, and Fantastic Four. In the nineties Joe moved west to work in the burgeoning multimedia arena. Among his recent projects: character design for Broderbund software's Carmen Sandeigo nemesis Chase Devineaux; animation artwork for the CD-ROM games Mysterious Island and Marty the Mouse for Elliot-Portwood Productions; a web adventure comic series for Eplay, an educational children's web site; production paintings and storyboards for the CGI 'cinematics' of Crystal Dynamics' Akuji the Heartless Playstation game; and a 'film noir' comic book for the I.T. consulting firm Xpedior. Joe is also an instructor in comic book illustration at the Academy of Art in San Francisco. You can see some his work at http://www.communicomics.com/
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 9:56 pm | #

Anybody who says the bible implies murderers should not be executed does not know the bible nor believe in God, but only in the fairy tale traditions of men
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 9:44 pm | #
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Anyone who promotes ignoring the constitution does not truly believe in human power, god, jesus, or anything good.

Anyone who promotes expedited trials to quickly kill massive amount of humans is promoting satanism.

Anyone promoting the two witness doctrine is a satanist

Anyone who perverts the words of god and jesus for satan is most likely also a satanist.

Do you have a problem promoting satanic and paganistic ideals without just being honest and letting everyone know you are a satanist?

I mean is a satanist forbidden from declaring who they are a servent of, why can't you be honest?

You are promoting paganism, so why are you hiding it?
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 9:52 pm | #

sane,

The Lord knows who these black popes or jesuit preists are, that is if they really exist, and if these people are committing crimes and it is discovered then according to the scriptures they should be executed, (if they committed murder)

Anybody who says the bible implies murderers should not be executed does not know the bible nor believe in God, but only in the fairy tale traditions of men
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 9:44 pm | #

Here steve info on the jesuits:

Understanding of the causes and reasons for the 4 reich's , 9/11 and the federal reserve:

Part 1
http://video.google.com/ videopla...834925200441495

Part 2
http://video.google.com/ videopla...076800390535825

And an overall understanding of the 9/11 and the federal reserve:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...481422995115331
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 8:44 pm | #

and execute judgement, because Jesus didn't change one letter of the law and neither should we.
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 8:18 pm | #

execute judgement? who will execute judgement exactly? Are you claiming that you know who, how, and when to execute judgement? Is this not a direct violation of the first 2 commandments that you so strenuously promote? NWO pawns are so easy to spot, they contradict themselves in the same darn sentence.

'They also talk about how the constitution is invalid, just like George W. "[it's just a goddamn piece of paper" Bush.

C'mon, just be honest and let us know what you are all about.

We can handle the truth, stop insulting our will and our spirit.
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 8:39 pm | #

That was just as obvious as the fact that there was no plane at the Pentagon.
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 8:18 pm | #
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Au Contraire,

unmatched DNA and Mr. Carr getting First Class treatment when he threatened to spill the beans when captured by foreign police ON AN UNRELATED CHARGE!

Are you saying the jesuits do not LOVE blood rituals and child sex blackmail rings?????

That cannot possibly be what you are saying, is it?
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 8:33 pm | #

"And that is why the investigations always get suddenly stopped. That is why Carr was jetted to US from Thailand with First Class treatment and shrimp. When he arrived out of the hands of people that might listen to him, he was immediately freed. No one knows why? Maybe he had information that implicated others like in the Franklin Cover-Up that implicated George BUsh Whild House Child Sex Slaves:"

Anybody who has a tiny pinch of common sense that was old enough to watch the news back in December of 1996 knows without any doubt that John and Patsy Ramsey killed their little daughter. That was just as obvious as the fact that there was no plane at the Pentagon.

John Ramsey and Patsy had big bucks, $millions in personal net worth and a billion dollar company that provided jobs and opportunities, and more importantly he made freinds with govenor of Colorado, and had other good freinds in high places.

And some of us half way observant individuals already know that judges take bribes and lawlessness abounds, so they not only let the Ramseys get away with murdering their little girl, but also KNOWINGLY harrassed innocent people to take the heat off of the real criminals.

They even went after Santa Clause, don't be afraid it wasn't the real Ho-Ho, but a guy in Boulder who played Santa Clause for years.

So Mr. Carr was an OBVIOUS ESCAPE GOAT to take the heat off of John. Kind of funny how John Ramsey was running for political office. It seems that he had all the qualifications for it as he was a pediophile child killer, and those are the qualities that make America the great nation that it is today.

But as far as your funny little jeuit preists are concerned, well I don't know all the facts, but they are indeed guilty, then I say follow the laws written in the old testament and execute judgement, because Jesus didn't change one letter of the law and neither should we.
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 8:18 pm | #

Reich I - Black Pope
Reich II - Black Pope
Assasination of Abraham Lincoln - Black Pope
Reich III - Black Pope
Red China - Black Pope
Russia - Black Pope
Federal Reserve and sinking of the Titanic - Black Pope

Am I getting too mainstream for ya Steve-O???

You know they are going after the tomb of the mound and they will need to destroy the Vatican as cover for the black pope to rule over NWO.

Do you really want this much bloodshed just so the black pope can rule for 42 months???

Is it really worth it?
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 8:11 pm | #

But on the other hand, maybe your more of a main stream kind of a guy and don't think there's anything that ALARMING about 34 year old guys bitting the flesh off of the face of 3 year old girls, and mothers who aid and abett in the abuse. I don't really know how you feel about it, maybe that should be the mainstream and maybe it's just me, maybe I'm the crazy one for being so disgusted at some the things going on in this beast system we call the USA.
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 7:48 pm | #
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Oh yeah the Vatican Killer Jesuits that have the Roman elementary school teachers commit satanic blood rituals and then cover it up. Guess I am real mainstream.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle1706340.ece

Look at the other mainstream stuff I check out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...related& search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...related& search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...related& search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...related& search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...related& search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...related& search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...related& search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...related& search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...related& search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...related& search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...related& search=
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63711/...Your-Children- R
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63623/...ontrolled- Slave

And that is why the investigations always get suddenly stopped. That is why Carr was jetted to US from Thailand with First Class treatment and shrimp. When he arrived out of the hands of people that might listen to him, he was immediately freed. No one knows why? Maybe he had information that implicated others like in the Franklin Cover-Up that implicated George BUsh Whild House Child Sex Slaves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...h? v=ggxiBWv4xYE
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 8:00 pm | #

sane,

If you want to know who really did 9/11, read this.

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things".

Now it's true that God does things through people, sometimes good things and sometimes bad things, but when people think that little bush and his partners in crime did 9/11 all by themselves they are ignorant as the heathen and do not know God.

It seems that Alex Jones and some of his followers understand the first layers involved with some of the people that orchestrated this crime, however, because he does not yet know God, he simply does not understand that God allowed it for His purpose.

Same with the illegal aliens and other things that we consider as being evil, such as our poisoned food sources, toxic pollution and fallen justice system that allows viscous child killers to go free, while convicting the innocent.

It's God almighty that is in charge, yet the heathen, including the religious people of the world simply do not know God as yet, and believe there are many gods on this planet, and because of this they too stumble and fall down that slippery slope to destruction.

It's sad, but all so obvious why Alex and his worshippers INCORRECTLY deny all the evidence of "Global Warming" I have no doubt that Al Gore and many other opportunists use that phrase for evil purposes, to suck money out of people, etc.

But to deny the fact that we are terrible polluters that are causing all kinds of environmental problems is just down right ignorant.

But there seems to be some kind of reason why they are so afraid of some of the evidences of all this toxic pollution in our air, water and food. Maybe they are afraid to accept the fact that we are a destructive people who are bent on killing each other, and it's not just limited to the neo/con elite, but it's actually ingrained and embedded into the very fabric of our beings.

On the news last night they arrested a guy for biting off the flesh of a 3 year old girl. He was a 34 year old boyfreind of a lady that allowed him to abuse her daughter for well over 6 months, and she continued to lie and deny and cover up his crimes.

But when the girl was examined by the doctor because her lip was completely bitten off, as was her ear, and other abusses, they questioned the 3 year old girl and found out what happened, so they finally arrested the guy and the mother.

Now please tell me what a great, wonderful nation this is and how mentally stable people are that seem to feel no shame or discomfort about tearing the flesh off a little girls face with thier teeth.

There are pearls of goodness and compassion in some people in this country, don't get me wrong, however to suggest that we are a wonderful nation of goodly christians, and the only plroblem we have are corrupt politicians is just downright ignorant and in denial.

In truth people in this country are sick, mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually, and this sickness is ingraned and embedded in the fabric of our legal, economic, educational and religious system, because it stems from the heart.

It all starts with the forsaking of God and the spirit of love and compassion and then it's a rapid, slippery slope into the pits of hell.

But on the other hand, maybe your more of a main stream kind of a guy and don't think there's anything that ALARMING about 34 year old guys bitting the flesh off of the face of 3 year old girls, and mothers who aid and abett in the abuse. I don't really know how you feel about it, maybe that should be the mainstream and maybe it's just me, maybe I'm the crazy one for being so disgusted at some the things going on in this beast system we call the USA.
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 7:48 pm | #

sane,

Try to forgive the pope and understand he's only a man and not God. And people shouldn't blame all their problems on the pope, because if they worship God instead of man they won't be led astray.
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 6:37 pm | #
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Huh, who is blaming the Nazi Pope?????

What is up with the Black/Jesuit Pope? Hans?

You know the one that ordered 9/11
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 7:06 pm | #

I'm not sticking up for Mandela or Saddam or your president, but I'd be careful about passing out rumors and viscous gossip that was spewed out by the propoganda machine known as our media. The scriptures call it "Ink Horns", and the television is referred to as "The image of the beast"
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 3:41 am | #

And the pope wears a horned crown, and he is a nazi, and he takes orders from Hans Kolvenbach, the Black Pope.

And you can check out some more info on how these "godly men" are only out to pervert god's name, jesus' words, mohammed's teachings, and any rights or liberties you think you may have.

Of course even the Roman Catholics have no clue that they will destroy the vatican [that is correct] to justify the 3.5 years of grotesque and perverse tyranny that Hans will provide.
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 6:16 pm | #

Ron. | 07.05.07 - 11:55 pm | #

Ron, Steve is a disinfo bible thumping aagent.

He uses his personal [illuminati] interpretations to justify a coming of a new world order that will go around every street with guillotines and kill or enslave the world, more here:
>>>>> New evidence into the plan for exterminating and enslaving the American people found on blogging threads and various hate sites...Here is the physical evidence:
1. Over 800 concentration camps in the United States that have been built under the shadow of "National Security" over the past 20 years [at least].
2. Many reports of the stickers on the back of street signs that allow for the logistical movement of many people toward these camps in a systematic way.
3. Many reports of the purchase of guillotines that have been put on boxcars and located around Freemasonry temples. Also reports of boxcars with shackles that will hold many people on their way to the concentration camps.
4. Huge data mines with video, pictures, financial records, phone records, recorded phone calls, associate connection, medical history, DNA data, etc. are being accumulated and are controlled by NWO.
5. Hundreds of reports of stolen data to fill in the blanks on these data mines adds credibility that "master" databases are being created to implicate anyone for anything at anytime.
6. As the president has proven by keeping Libby from jail, the justice system is in a state of flux where one person can be found guilty with a still image near a scene of a crime, but mountains of evidence are not enough to convict someone who is connected to NWO.
7. The RFID is their continued treasure and they are defying all rationality in pushing it against the citizens wishes.
8. The Wanta Funds, the Iraq Supplemental, the $12 Billion airlifted to the middle of a warzone, the pumping of our stock market, and the over $100 trillion in commitments shows that our leaders have no interest in preventing the bankruptcy and depression to come.
9. The VT killing being spun as a way to perceive anyone with a gun or taking anti-depressents is guilty is alsotelling.
10. The recent "steroid killings" is another way to perceive anyone on steroids as being guilty.
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Missing pieces:
1. More compelling false flag terror attack.
2. Localized gang type anger for immediate gagging, executing, and enslaving US citizens throughout the country.
________________________________

I think we know plenty about the false flag attack and Cheney's involvement and main player in this plan. But how are they going to create this system of gang mentality that quickly rushes to judgement who shall live and who shall die? Well it looks like much of this has been leaked on blogs and hate pages on the World Wide Web. Steve reveals to us how this mindset will work and what the trigger words are:
...Execute justice and judgement...
...So make sure the guy is really guilty (upon 2 witnesses) and that can mean DNA, eye witness, fiber, etc. and if so then execute judgement promptly....
...If you do it promptly then he's dead, and justice was served...
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I have seen this before, but did not quite understand it, but it is coming up more and more. The trigger words are that we need to abandon the constitution, the right to a lawyer, the right to habeus corpus, the right to a jury trial, etc.
Bush keeping Gonzalez makes it easier for NWO to use chaos theory to justify a new justice system. They want to use the following as the new way to execute [pun intended] justice after the next false flag attack [they are definitely planning a big one]:
1. Only 2 witnesses [only men, no women] needed for an immediate sentence of death according to true judeo-christian law.
2. Evidence will be based on the NWO data mines and will not be allowed to be criticized.
3. Plenty of talks of godly people carrying out the sentences will be repeated as if this justifies the irrational system they plan on implementing.
4. Once two people say they are guilty "...execute judgement promptly..." which means immediate guillotineing of the person in a group of manipulated angry crowds [perhaps the teenage girl's stonings in iraq and afghanistan are being studied or manipulated by NWO to refine this method]:
The rest of the people will be in cages and on trains in scenes out of "children of men" Being a "fake christian" or a "fake jew" will result in immediate execution and will be based on genetical evidence like the eugenics lab at Ames at Iowa State University and the Internet family Tree scams, and the Rothchils and Greenspan Geneology company. Look up the info yourselves. I think Steve gave us some really great info into the localized plan. This is important because many people cannot fathom that these local mob rules executuions can happen in this counrty when history proves how easy this is to do. Please check this stuff out as we should honor the ones who died for us by opening our eyes and awakening to the plans NWO has to destroy our sovereign nation.
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 6:12 pm | #

The ones to definitely watch out for are the jesuits that will be using all of this turmoil to enact the 2 witness doctrine in direct violation of jesus to carry out death and enslavement under the pope's orders rather than and in contrast to god's will.

More here:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...834925200441495

Jesuits pay others to behead and stick the head on a pole:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...076800390535825

And an overall understanding of the 9/11 and the federal reserve:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...481422995115331
sane | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 6:07 pm | #

Too many people are confused on the real cause, on the head of the snake of this world-mess. Some people blame NAFTA, others blame immigration problems, some blame Bush and neocons, others blame Saddam and islamists, some others blame Israel and Zionism. But my friends, the true head of the snake, the real cause of all world problems not only of what is happening now, but what has happened since long time ago it is capitalism. Capitalist Systems and not only capitalism, but most Oppressive Systems like: Monarchy, Feudalism, Plutocracy, Oligarchy, are dictatorships indeed. A dictatorship is not only Hitler, but a Dictatorship is the exploitation of an upper class against the majority. In this case USA, what most americans need to do is to get united, to form a large movement, a united front to take out the capitalist parties from power either electorally or like Lincoln said thru a revolutionary-solution. Only a Revolutionary-Situation could save this country: Ron Paul, Kucinich, Mike Gravel, Al Gore won't be able to change the power structures of this country. They are reformists, not revolutionaries (radical-changers). Reformism doesn't fix a nation, only revolution can.
Juan Carlos Cruz | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 3:06 pm | #

Ron,

I wouldn't lean on your own wisdom, because you got that information drilled into your head for years by a corrupt media that spews propoganda 24-7.

And this is same media that says Saddam used the weapons of mass destruction and that the USA was innocent as a lamb, when reality proves that the good old USA sold Saddam every chemical weapon known to mankind and also provided the delivery system and intellignece used to deploy those agents against Iran and the Kurds.

Remember it's our media that tries to push the magical Osahma in a cave fairy tale that he magically defied all the laws of physics and brought the world trade towers and building 7 down to the ground, and also made that plane at the Pentagon vanish into thin air without leaving a trace.

(No human body parts or blood and no luggage)
http://www.iwilltryit.com/ eviden...ncepentagon.htm

I'm not sticking up for Mandela or Saddam or your president, but I'd be careful about passing out rumors and viscous gossip that was spewed out by the propoganda machine known as our media. The scriptures call it "Ink Horns", and the television is referred to as "The image of the beast"
Steve | Homepage | 07.06.07 - 3:41 am | #

Furthermore your contention that the Apartheid regime "poisoned the rivers with E-Coli" simply does not add up on a number of fronts. For one thing I think you are confusing E-Bola with E-Coli. I just can not believe how many times people confuse these two very different things. Now the E-Bola breakout occurred mainly in central Africa during the mid 1990s. Long after the Apartheid regime was gone. Apartheid ended on June 17 1991. Though attempting to put either virus (E-Bola) or bacteria (E-Coli) into a river would be foolhardy as probably neither would take to the river as effectively as other more effective agents. This is certainly the first I have ever heard of this rumor.
Ron. | 07.05.07 - 11:55 pm | #

This just goes to show how people do not even read all of the comments here as I posted a comment pertaining to this exact same subject here on this exact same page just hours earlier before the poster in question posted his Mandela Myth propaganda. The following is a re posting of my original post.

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Re: A July Fourth message: It’s revolution time.

< Before someone drags me off as a "terrorist" for saying so, let me say that I am serious, but revolution does not have to be bloody like the
Russian revolution, or the bloody military coup launched against the democratic government of Chile by Nixon and Kissinger. We have
Nelson Mandela as an example now. -David Cogswell >.

This statement from the above article just about demonstrates the ignorance of the author as Mandela was in fact a terrorist who was
imprisoned for his role in a bombing campaign & the violent overthrow of the government. Furthermore while in prison he signed off on the
brutal Church Street Bombing Massacre which killed 17 people & injured 197 people which was the largest terrorist act in South African history
-many innocent civilians of all races were killed in this terrorist act on May 20 1983. Read the full story here in which Oliver Tambo -the then president of the ANC & for which the Johannesburg international airport was recently named after (can you believe it?!)- admits his role & the ANC's role in the terrorist action.

Mandela's ideal for a non racial South Africa is laudable, but this does not excuse his terrorist past. Furthermore the ANC is doing everything
possible to recreate a racist & oppressive South Africa only with the races reversed & the mixed race caught in the middle as they were in the past. Read more at Racial Discrimination in South Africa. The author is a former anti- Apartheid medical journalist for the Sunday Times Johannesburg. Hence she knows when Apartheid is being recreated.

Furthermore: Mandela was no true friend of freedom. His only goal was to capture the South African State that the British created on the backs of dead Boer & Bantu civilians in the British concentration camps. Furthermore: Mandela & his ANC was specifically chosen to rule
South Africa by the Globalists as it was closely allied with the Rothchilds & funded by the Oppenheimers. Also: Mandela is no humble mine worker as might be supposed. He is a member of the Thembu Royal (big red flag!) family -a clan within the Xhosa group- & only went to Johannesburg to become a layer simply as a means to escape an arranged marriage. He is simply another member of Royalty which has
been placed into positions of power just like other oppressive world leaders -ie: part of the ruling elite. He is the George Bush / Bill Clinton of the
ANC & of South Africa. The largest ethnic group in South Africa: the Zulus are marginalized & targeted by the ANC regime almost as much as
they have marginalized & targeted the Boers & the White population in general including other smaller groups.

On this Fourth of July it should be mentioned that the Boers also had wars of independence from Britain (1880 -1881 & 1899 - 1902) during the
Anglo-Boer Wars when they were fighting to defend the independence of their internationally recognized republics -the Transvaal Republic (1852 - 1877 / 1881 - 1900) & the Orange Free State (1854 - 1900)- which were founded on depopulated regions north of the Orange & Vaal Rivers due to the Difaqane: Shaka's ethnic cleansing & war actions against neighbouring tribes. The Boer people are the segment of the White Afrikaans population (about one third of) who are the descendants of those who trekked away from colonial society starting in the 1690s & throughout the 1700s when they entered in the expanding northern & eastern Cape frontiers & are the descendants of Dutch Calvinists who first arrived at the Cape in 1652 / Frisian Calvinists / French Huguenots / German Protestants / Flemish & Walloons which a slight admixture of Indian / Malay & Khoi & speak a dialect of a language which was developed on African soil known as Afrikaans (an archaic 17th cent Dutch dialect stronlgy influenced by Malay with French / German / Portuguese & Khoi influences) & often referred to as "die taal" (the language) among the Boers.

The most well known historical Boers are Paul Kruger - President of the Transvaal Republic - / Koos de la Rey - General - / Andries Pretorius -
Voortrekker leader - / Piet Retief - Voortrekker leader - / Gert Maritz - Voortrekker leader- / Marthinus Steyn - President of the Orange Free State - / Danie Theron - Boer soldier - / Piet Joubert - General - / Hendrik Potgieter - Voortrekker leader - / Siener Nicolaas van Rensburg - Boer prophet - & Louis Botha - Boer General -.

Picture of the Orange Free State flag / Vierkleur during a Boer protest.

Read more about the plight of the Boers at: Stop Boer Genocide.com. There are a number of informative articles posted there concerning their present & past.
Ron. | 07.05.07 - 11:32 pm | #

Also visit: USA: College Paper: Mandela: Wrong Path To Freedom.

Read also: The Mandela Myth & the Genisis of the End.

Please be aware that Nelson Mandela was not the hero that the media portrayed him as. The fact that the media held him up as such should have been your first clue. He was the "fig leaf" used to cover up & justify the rape & subjugation by the ruling elite of the region.
Ron. | 07.05.07 - 11:15 pm | #

To La Verdad. In repsonse to this post.

Nelson Mandela was indeed a terrorist as he was found guilty of a bombing campaign & was found guilty during the Rivonia Trial of plotting to overthrow the government. Furthermore Mandela has ties to the Rothchilds & was funded by the Oppenheimers &
was linked to MI6. He is also a member of the Thembu Royal family who was from the Transkei (the ancestral homeland of the Xhosas) & only moved to Johannesburg (a former mining town which sprung up in the heart of the Transvaal Republic & was built by British magnates) in order to escape an arranged marriage.

He was not the hero that the corporate media claimed he was as he was only interested in taking over the State for the ANC -just as the former National Party of the Broederbond backed Afrikaner Nationalists had done during the 1940s & 50s- & to further the interests of the London bankers & ruling elite who were being stymied by the Afrikaner Nationalists (Afrikaner Nationalism was an offshoot of British Imperialism) who forgot who there true masters were & were becoming too independent. The Apartheid laws were unjust & a disaster but they threatened to break up the British Imperial macro State that the British had built on the backs of dead Boers (who were marginalized by the Afrikaners) & Bantus in the British concentration camps during the second Anglo-Boer War.

The real reason for the opposition to the unjust Apartheid laws was due to the fact that they were becoming an impediment to the goals of the ruling elite in South Africa -they could give a rat's ass about the actual people themselves as the present circumstances has demonstrated.

For further reading. Quoted text in bold.

In 1963, several leaders of the ANC and the Umkhonto we Sizwe were arrested, and Mandela was brought to stand trial with them for plotting to overthrow the government with violence. On June 12, 1964, eight of the accused ANC leaders, including Mandela, were sentenced to life in prison.

From: Mandela bio at Token Coins.

The following is an excerpt originally posted at Free Republic -which I am aware is generally a neo con forum, but there are or were often some insightful posts.

Mandela and his fellow revolutionaries were caught red-handed with: 48,000 Soviet-made anti-personnel mines, 210,000 hand grenades, and documents showing proof of involvement of Moscow, Algeria, China, Czechoslovakia, and East Germany in financing and backing a communist revolution in South Africa. Mandela admitted his guilt, was convicted after a free and fair trial, and was sentenced to life imprisonment on June 11, 1964. He was charged under the Suppression of Communism Act and was tried between October 1963 and June 1964. During this trial, a 62-page document in Mandela's own handwriting entitled How To Be a Good Communist was offered as evidence. This was the famous Rivonia Trial, named after Johannesburg’s fashionable suburb in the north, where in June and July 1963 the South African authorities found huge quantities of equipment designed for civil war.

At that time, Mandela was incarcerated not because he held unpopular political opinions (communist), but because he was convicted of 23 acts of sabotage and of conspiring to overthrow the government. The South African President P. Botha offered him freedom if he would renounce violence, but Mandela always refused the offer.

One of the most insightful descriptions of Mandela's political views is found in The Richmond News-Leader of May 2, 1986:

"The story goes that South Africa's jailed Nelson Mandela, and his wife Winnie are just your standard garden-variety moderates who want freedom for their country. But consider this. Moscow's communist party newspaper Pravda recently carried a story about Winnie Mandela, quoting her as saying: 'The Soviet Union is the torch-bearer for all our hopes and aspirations. We have learned and are continuing to learn resilience and bravery from the Soviet people, who are an example to us in our struggle for freedom, a model of loyalty to internationalist duty. In Soviet Russia, genuine power of the people has been transformed from dreams into reality. The land of the Soviets is the genuine friend and ally of all peoples fighting against the dark forces of world reaction.'

"This is not the swoony stuff of a dizzy moderate, but the disciplined ideologuese of a Soviet stooge."

Furthermore, Winnie Mandela's true colors and those of the ANC were revealed at Munsieville, on April 13, 1986, when she said: "With our boxes of matches and our necklaces ["necklacing:" a torture in which a gasoline-filled tire is placed around the neck of a victim and set ablaze], we shall liberate this country." (South African Digest, April 18, 1986, p. 324)

South Africa, meanwhile, given over by F.W. de Klerk and Pik Botha to the Marxist African National Congress, has turned into a cauldron of murder, rape, AIDS and anarchy.

Nelson Mandela has long had strong ties to the MPLA, as the Marxist Angolan regime has provided Mandela's African National Congress with a haven for its terrorist training bases.

In fact, upon his release from prison, Mandela gave a speech in Angola's capital of Luanda on May 10, 1990, in which he said: "The ANC brought young people into Angola to receive military training. This was indeed a major turning point in the history of South Africa. The progress we have made in our armed struggle is owed largely to Angola.

Angola allowed us not only to receive arms from friendly countries abroad, but also allowed us to establish camp and gave us freedom to train our soldiers." ("A TRAGEDY IN ANGOLA: DeBeers, Clinton's executive order seeks to destroy anti-communist rebel movement," WorldNetDaily, January 30, 2000)

Mandela has committed numerous terrorist acts. Mandela ordered the infamous Church Street bombing, which went off at rush hour to maximize casualties of Afrikaner women, children and babies. He also told the black youth of South Africa at one point to "burn down" their schools. Mandela recently traveled to Libya and presented Qaddafi with South Africa's highest military medal.

His support of other communist dictatorships is blatant. In July 1991, Nelson and Winnie Mandela were in Cuba to celebrate the communist revolution with Fidel Castro.

As Winnie referred to Cuba "as our second home," Nelson Mandela addressed the ceremony saying,
"Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro... Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny... There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people."

From: http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...19/replies? c=13
Ron. | 07.05.07 - 11:14 pm | #

To: Bob Jones. Response to this post. This goes much further than Art Bell who I am well aware is a compromized disinfo agent. The fact that the Mayan Calender ends on December 21 2012 can not be disputed & the notion that space aliens control the human race has been purported from many different legends going far back into the ancient past. In other words whether or not the notion is true: it is a notion which has been asserted quite often in numerous past legends.
Ron. | 07.05.07 - 11:07 pm | #

To: Bob Jones. Response 39#104979"> to this post. This goes much further than Art Bell who I am well aware is a compromized disinfo agent. The fact that the Mayan Calender ends on December 21 2012 can not be disputed & the notion that space aliens control the human race has been purported from many different legends going far back into the ancient past. In other words whether or not the notion is true: it is a notion which has been asserted quite often in numerous past legends.
Ron. | 07.05.07 - 11:05 pm | #

Don't blame the mexicans for wanting to come over here and grab some jobs and opportunities, that's a natural normal instinct of survival, and don't think a few hundred mile fence will protect a 2,000 mile boarder. You'd have better luck putting a SCREEN DOOR in a submarine trying to keep the water out.

The problem is the people in this nation, from the least of them unto the greatest have become so corrupt and have departed so far away from the Lord, that God almighty is allowing us to be destroyed.

It's not really all bush's fault, or the rothchild's, but it's God Himself who PROMISSED us that He would raise up various people to put some hurtin on us.

Habbakuk 1:6-7 "For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not theirs.

:7 They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.

"Nothing is new under the sun" It may have been called the Chaldeans back then, but today we call them "Illegal Aliens"

Habbakuk 2:7 "Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them"?

Yep, from the street gangs in L.A. to the endless car jackings accross the nation they're taking a big byte out of the economy and our medicare and wealfare has become booty for them/

And some people say, "Why would the Lord do this terrible thing to such a great nation as us"? Why would God punish this wonderful nation of christians, when we never do anything wrong, even according to Sean Hamnity we only do good things to other countries.

Well the Lord disagrees and logic and common sense shows us what we are really doing.

Habbakuk 2:8 "Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of men's blood, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein".

Don't blame the mexicans for marching into the land, there just regular people like any one else, they've got wives and kids and loved ones to take care of and many of them are starving so naturally there gonna take George Bush up on his promise to president Fox to feed them and care for them and even make them legal.
Steve | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 7:17 pm | #

Michael D,

the forefathers of the US constitution murdered people and stole this land fair and square, and should have a right to control this realestate since might makes right.
Steve | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 7:01 pm | #

Michael D

Maybe youd feel a bit more comfortable at http://davidduke.com they cover much of the same info as Prison Planet but they mix it up with ignorant racial hatred. I think you'd feel right at home there.
la verdad | 07.05.07 - 6:37 pm | #

Good work making my point Michael D. Your vile hatred is exactly the reason why my latino friends are alieneted from this site. Ultimately you hurt the movement with this division. Point made.
la verdad | 07.05.07 - 6:34 pm | #

The "distraction," is when it deflects away from the Constitution. Okay? Besides I am making an argument that the Bush White House doesn't even make, as it is probably the one probably the only time they are doing anything at all as proscribed under the Constitution, that they are commuting through pardon powers the Libby case.

I've been thinking about this ever since Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon. Of course people may criticize such things, but the Constitution is the Constitution, is the Constitution. Almost no one likes such a decision but why fix the only thing that seems to be operating from it? Congress has as much power to impeach, but it makes no sense to do it from this "pardon-commutation," case alone.
Skip Shipman | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 4:08 pm | #

Constitutionally speaking Keith Olbermann is not exactly right. Much as anyone could oppose the pardon, it is unconditionally delineated in the constitution. It is a misnomer that the right of Presidential pardon is politically questionable, it is not within the constitution. A President needs not give any explanation. Now this does not mean I support everything the President is doing. It means that for this Constitutional issue, pardon, and pardon alone, that it is what he is fully authorized thereby to do. Now if everything else were operating as it should, then people could accept the constitutional issue. But when a President creates the appearance of impropriety on many other Constitutional issues, he tends to void his compact, his agreement under inaugural oath. Those Constitutional issues are what need be tendered, but pardon is entirely Constitutional for any reason. A President may simply tell us, "I have said what I have said," regarding pardon. No explanation is required. Now I do not necessarily like it, nor do many others. If you want to change pardon, do it by Amending the Bill of rights. Otherwise it is a superfluous distraction.
Skip Shipman | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:15 am | #
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It might serve you to eat some bran as you are quite obviously full of shit. You are also devoit of any constitution whatsoever.

There was no pardon, there was commutal. This is not the reason for him to resign, it was only the reason for people to wake up to his high crimes and misdemeanors like....

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

BREAKING THE OATH OF THE PRESIDENCY TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION

ENGAGING THE ARMED FORCES IN WAR UNDER FALSE PRETENSE

ILLEGALLY WIRETAPPING AMERICAN CITIZENS

UTILIZING A PUBLIC OFFICE FOR PERSONAL GAIN

AND AT LEAST 100 OTHERS...

I think you stepped into the wrond board, WE READ HERE!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:33 am | #

Comment: You're preaching to the choir, and I am not sure you read it. I am saying the same things your are. So get the point please. Surely the fact of it is "commutation," but it is authorized under the pardon powers of the Presidency. Now if only Bush would support the Constitution elsewhere. Are you satisfied?
Skip Shipman | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:47 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07Olbermann.htm
jbrid1138 | 07.05.07 - 1:18 pm | #

I have my own take on the supposedlly doctors firebombing airports. The medical lobby has paid into a system, that rewards for knowledge however when too many people are privy to that knowledge the price for services go down. Question Why isn't US allowowing for more foriegn medical doctors into the country, When thier are 45 million people who can not even afford to get an Xray when they break a bone. Does Someone need 8 years of medical school to determine if some one has a broken or fractured limb?
Rush to war | 07.05.07 - 12:49 pm | #

DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE BIGGEST HOLOCAUST THAT THE RACIST PRESS DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT! etc., etc.
la verdad | 07.05.07 - 11:37 am
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This guy obviously takes pride in authorship // I say that because I've seen the exact post from him before.

I suppose he has forgotten the amount of pain and suffering and death and destruction levied against the two innocent cities in Japan (1945) wherein they became a TEST case for two atomic bombs.

Hard to limit (to any one people) man's inhumanity to man BUT still there are those among us that put on blinders and turn their hatred into personal concerens. Not excusing any of it // it's all wrong. Gore and blood letting sure in the hell isn't (wasn't) confined to white settlers and their mistreatments of native people residing then on the plains of North America. Take a look around, East, West, North, South -- lot of bad things happening all around.

What has happened in Iraq with the reports of over 650,000 innocents dead as a direct and indirect result of our war -- is yet another example that can't be so easily excused. Got nothing to do with Mexico or American Indians that iI can see.

Enough misery to go around to all people, with all things considered.
jbrid1138 | 07.05.07 - 12:34 pm | #

Ok, I gotta put in my 2 cents.
This idiot that keeps bitching about the spicks.
Mexicans.
I worked at Toyota in San antonio last year for about 4 months.
I've never met so many worthless little dicks in my life (midget mother fuckers, most about 5' tall and 140 pounds, stunted genetic misfits). I did have some men on my crew that were some of the hardest working men I've ever met, I liked them and respect them. Good family men too. They were not illegal immagrunts. (misspelled on purpose)
There were so many drunkards and dope heads and non english speaking thieves at that job I could have puked. if it wasn't nailed down, it got stolen. Even entire job boxes, one with 16 men's personal tools, were stolen. Taken out of the plant with a forklift and flatbed trailer, stole the truck and forklift and flatbed trailer too.
A freind of mine had another job box stolen out of his truck, weighing about 600 pounds, the tailgate didn't work, they had to get 6-8 people and physically pick up a 4 foot tall, 5 foot long 600 pound box and lift it out of his truck, from a hotel parking lot. I've known the man for some time, all these tools were paid for with his labor.
Fuckers clipped him for $5000 or so.
Kiss my ass with your imma GRUNT whining.
Don't blame us for our ancestors taking "your land"
fuck you. keep your lying stealing drunkard worthless doper wanna be chinese idiot labor group out of my fuckin' country.
And i won't even go into the hundreds of young women who were (are) kidnapped from their families and found dead in mexico.
Fuck you la verdad
Stay south of the border if you know what's good for you.
further, you are not welcome here. Fuck off and go away.
Michael D. | 07.05.07 - 12:23 pm | #

But the Illuminati use symbols in everything // it is in itself a ritual of sorts.

The numbers 3 2 2 (if I am right) allow for a secret organization to smile and think that they can openly (without prejudice) display the sign of the beast ( 6 6 6) since we're so damn dumb to know better. I think that secret in their charter means to keeps some things away from the curiosity seekers thereby allowing those members to conduct buisiness as normal without questions.

I would question an organization (secret or otherwise) that would proudly display the symbol 6 6 6 on their crest simply because of what 6 6 6 signifies // a neat way of getting around that would be to fool the public into thinking what they see is not what it truly is at all. A disguise of sorts.

Maybe I'm wrong BUT what explanation do you or anyone else have to offer as to those particular numbers so prominent in the logo?

My opinion of course.
jbrid1138 | 07.05.07 - 11:56 am | #

jbrid1138 | 07.05.07 - 11:39 am | #

just a word of caution...

numerology begins where logic ends.

illuminati uses it (exhaustively) to keep logic off their coat tails. They purposefully use it with their false flags and crimes as diversion mechanisms.

Just like they purposefully use majority of arabs in one project, then majority of jews in another, then majority of roman catholics in still another, etc.

This is to have the shallow investigator create an "aha" moment only to be chasing a group or a number instead of the actual cause of the disease.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 11:49 am | #

IT'S COMING BACK AROUND AGAIN. This is for the PEOPLE OF THE SUN. ---rage against the machine.

See these Videos on the ECONOMIC HIT MAN to see whats really going on.

http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=1

http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=1

http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=1
la verdad | 07.05.07 - 11:43 am | #

Let me start off by saying that Math wasever one of my better subjects in school // Yet I believe I have figured out something that may very well be true.

Let me explain: You're aware of the secret cult organization that our President and his father and Kerry (to mention only a few belong to) // i.e., Skull and Bones.

Well, if you've seen the logo it is very similar to what one would think of when they think of a Pirate flag // a human skull and two crossed bones underneath -- there is also these NUMBERS: 3 2 2

Now here's my Math:
3 x 2 (the first two numbers) = 6

The last number (2) secretly indicates do the same thing twice more // In other words -- 3x 2 (first time more) = 6; 3 x 2 (second time more)= 6

Translating that into simple understanding = 6 6 6

Disguished there (hiding there) in plain sight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Sku...Skull_and_Bones
jbrid1138 | 07.05.07 - 11:39 am | #

DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE BIGGEST HOLOCAUST THAT THE RACIST PRESS DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT!

The worst holocaust murdered over 95% of the population and it was perpetrated by your ancestors if youre European. The things they did were give smallpox tainted blankets to the native women and children. They would tie up the natives and see if they could slice them in half with one sword blow for fun, they would sick their war dogs on the woman and children for slaughter, they would swing the children like baseball bats against rocks so their heads would explode (a habit recently practiced by the SOA trained death squads against natives in Central America ( http://www.soaw.org )), they would cut these true Americans in pieces and sell them at market for dog meat, they liked to see them run with their intestines dragging so that they would trip over them. Etc. Etc.

And you think you have a problem with immigration because mexicans which are at least 1/2 Native american and some 100% native want to come clean the yards of the land that was stolen from them? You have been brainwashed. There is much evidence to show that immigration is good for the economy, only you choose to believe the spin that panders to your fancy. But economy aside, this is a moral issue and the land belongs to them. Those that hide their racism behind the laws that were written by these murderers are the same ones that would capture and kill black slaves because the law would allow it in the past.

The fact is that Latin America has rich countries just the people are poor. The global billionaires steal all the Natural resources by installing corrupt govts (see JOHN PERKINS video on google), death squads, and trickery under the pretense of capitalism. Why this site (which makes so much sense on everything else) would lead you to believe that the solution lies on attacking the immigrant is beyond my comprehension. If the stealing of Latin America by Globalist stopped the immigrants would stay home where they could make a living. Why attack the humble poor immigrant (that has native blood) when you can spend your energies attacking the cause ==the global billionaire imperialists. I guess youre just sheep when it comes to this issue, it's beyond your paradigm.
la verdad | 07.05.07 - 11:37 am | #

hey verdad, I'm against corruption and exploitation too, it isnt anything to do with race..
but please explain how the south african preacher is really ANY different than LA RAZA and RECONQUISTA. you cant, it isnt.
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 11:29 am | #

You want to talk about south african racism.

1.Cheney and republicans voted to keep Nelson Mandela in jail. They labeled him a terrorist.

2. The wells and rivers were poisoned with e-coli to kill a blacks by the U.S. supported aparthied whites..

3.There is U.S. scientist Steven Hatfill that worked on anthrax that personally murdered black ranchers and their families with anthrax for the apartheid whites. He is currently living comfortably in the U.S..

I could keep going.
la verdad | 07.05.07 - 11:19 am | #

C'man dude, what about AIDS, vaccines, Tuskeegee experiment, sickle cell, Ames Lab, Eugenics project by Rothschild and Greenspan, etc..

It still does not justify that fucker. He is adding to the problem by influencing otherwise moderate whites to take a blind eye to how racist this country is.

Wolfowitz, kissinger, feith, et al do the same with jews.

these extremist fuckers pull a race, religion, nationality out of balance and cause blowback to the entire group.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 11:27 am | #

If we wanted to be selective against jews we would post this jesus hating video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O...h? v=ORrBCbC4LHc We could do this with any race. So stop it.
la verdad | 07.05.07 - 11:02 am | #

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I guess the thing about it is to not discriminate and out all of the fuckers no matter their race, religion or national origin, I mean saying that Kissinger is a fucking stain on the human race for leading others to kill 10's of millions is not an attack on jews, and saying that gonzalez is dismantling our justice system is not an attack on hispanics is it?

yeah I can live with that philosophy, guess maybe we so not see eye to eye after all, oh well...
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 11:11 am | #

I'm not saying that the black preacher wasn't terrible, he was. What I'm saying is that if your going to show racism, show all races committing it don't be selective.
la verdad | 07.05.07 - 10:56 am | #

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hey, in south africa, that preacher is part of the majority, racially. acceptance of cultural differences, friendship, is one thing, but excuse me (?!) LA RAZA and RECONQUISTA is another thing entirely.
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 11:07 am | #

it's the same thing here in America now, call in for help with domestic violence they wait till the dust settles so they can haul someone off, it isnt about protecting anyone and getting involved, its about making money off the aftermath.
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 10:57 am | #
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ya know they are playing on thread 40 and they did not invite us

it's ok, i went there anyway
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 11:06 am | #

la verdad | 07.05.07 - 10:56 am | #

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"immigrant bashing" ?! "minority bashing" ?!

get over it, illegal immigration is what it says it is, illegal and unprocessed, and unlawful.. here ya are calling illegal immigrants "immigrants" then pulling up a race card.. is RACIST OF YOU!!!
dont even think of accusing me of being a racist.
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 11:01 am | #

Dutch police deaf for screams torture murder
http://www.telegraaf.nl/ binnenla...nla...oord.html? p=4,1
PERNIS - A 28 year old Rotterdam citizen was tortured to death in an apartment in the city of Pernis, while two alerted and armed police officers outside waited for nearly half an hour, hearing the screams, but refused to act. translation here : http://ut2004.titaninternet.co.u.../ showthread.php? p=210484#post210484

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sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:52 am | #

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it's the same thing here in America now, call in for help with domestic violence they wait till the dust settles so they can haul someone off, it isnt about protecting anyone and getting involved, its about making money off the aftermath.
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 10:57 am | #

STOP THE BLATANT SELECTIVE ATTACKS ON MINORITIES.

Why only show the black racist extremists. there are plenty of examples of all races being racist extremists including white and jewish extremists, Selecting only mexican and black extremists has made me weary. That and immigrant bashing needs to be stopped on this site. It would be a perfect site if this were the case. i give this site to many people and get a lot of heat because of the attacks on immigrants instead of attacking the cause for immigration = the Global Imperialists that steal everything from Latin America. This issue alienates minorities from this site.

Heres a good example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M...h? v=M539PgDjbas

go to http://www.davidduke.com/
to see what can happen to this great site if you continue immigrant bashing. David Duke has many of the same causes that Jones has but then he mixes it up with racism alienating fair minded people. I'm not saying that the black preacher wasn't terrible, he was. What I'm saying is that if your going to show racism, show all races committing it don't be selective.
la verdad | 07.05.07 - 10:56 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...707Minister.htm

C-I-L-L da landlawd ! eddie murphy
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 10:45 am | #

I do not know why but the cill thing reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=e5smPcN8AoE
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:55 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...7Censorship.htm

YAAY TEAM !! lol
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 10:54 am | #

FOX News Channel not conservative
http://www.humanevents.com/artic...le.php? id=21404
A top conservative spokesperson says that the FOX News Channel isn't.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:53 am | #

Dear America: Please Be American Again
http://agonist.org/ian_welsh/ 200...a_birthday_wish
My birthday wish for America and Americans is that you remember: in the real America, there is no choice between "freedom and safety," between prosperity and massive inequality, between generosity and fiscal prudence; and there is no such thing as "managed free speech." Please be the America the world once loved again.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:53 am | #

Dutch police deaf for screams torture murder
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenla...oord.html? p=4,1
PERNIS - A 28 year old Rotterdam citizen was tortured to death in an apartment in the city of Pernis, while two alerted and armed police officers outside waited for nearly half an hour, hearing the screams, but refused to act. translation here : http://ut2004.titaninternet.co.u.../ showthread.php? p=210484#post210484

??????????????????
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:52 am | #

Another Victory for Ron Paul
http://idealogs.blogspot.com/200...-paul- paul.html
At one point, a member of the campaign, was confronted by a representative of the Waterfront Development Corporation, and was questioned about the nature of the material he was handing out. After a short discussion, he was told abruptly that he was not allowed to hand out political material.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:51 am | #

Former presidential contender Dick Gephardt to endorse Hillary Clinton
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Fo...dorse_0705.html
Former House Majority Leader and 2004 presidential contender Dick Gephardt (D-MO) will endorse Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) this afternoon in her bid for the presidency, according a senior campaign aide. A spokesman for the campaign confirmed the claim to RAW STORY this morning.

Finally Confirmed- 9/11 Was an Inside Job
http://community.whptv.com/forum...ad/ 1765204.aspx
Evidence, Motivations, Slip-Ups, More.....[local power available to all of us!]
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:49 am | #

The mayas predicted their own downfall. For those of you who saw Apocalypto, there is a part where the little girl tells the oppressive warrior that she can see the fear in his eyes because he knew of their unavoidable end. Mel Gibson I believeand was giving credence to their prophecies.

The Mayas predicted that this time will end on Dec 20, 2012. And Astronomers are amazed at how the mayas knew of a constellation allignment that happens only every 10s of thousands of years, without any technology. Some say their knowledge was otherworldly or they were able to connect spiritually with another dimension. Nevertheless, their calendar is more sophisticated than even the Gregorian we use in the west.

The Gregorian calendar is based on commerce. The mayas had a commerce related calendar but the calander they really adored was the spiritual calendar.

SOME INTERESTING THINGS THAT SEEM RELATED

1.The mayas worshiped the sun through pyramids. 2.At the same time in another continent that had not been in contact with the americas yet, the Egyptians also had pyramids and worshipped through them. 3. The illuminati seem to love the pyramids and put them on the dollar. 4.The technologies associated with the pyramids seem otherworldly and scientists are baffled on how ancient peoples were able to manifest them.//////Does the illuminati know something we don't?

I'm not sure what to believe when it comes to all this and am researching it on my spare time.
la verdad | 07.05.07 - 10:48 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...707Minister.htm

C-I-L-L da landlawd ! eddie murphy
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 10:45 am | #

which would only lead me to think grandma was a brainwash sufferer to "news media".
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 10:36 am | #
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Aren't we all?
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:40 am | #

dang sane, always the easy questions there huh... lol
my grandma used to say what a great combo nixon and kissinger was on foriegn and domestic policy but I tend to think it was more like cheney and bush... which would only lead me to think grandma was a brainwash sufferer to "news media".
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 10:36 am | #

Constitutionally speaking Keith Olbermann is not exactly right. Much as anyone could oppose the pardon, it is unconditionally delineated in the constitution. It is a misnomer that the right of Presidential pardon is politically questionable, it is not within the constitution. A President needs not give any explanation. Now this does not mean I support everything the President is doing. It means that for this Constitutional issue, pardon, and pardon alone, that it is what he is fully authorized thereby to do. Now if everything else were operating as it should, then people could accept the constitutional issue. But when a President creates the appearance of impropriety on many other Constitutional issues, he tends to void his compact, his agreement under inaugural oath. Those Constitutional issues are what need be tendered, but pardon is entirely Constitutional for any reason. A President may simply tell us, "I have said what I have said," regarding pardon. No explanation is required. Now I do not necessarily like it, nor do many others. If you want to change pardon, do it by Amending the Bill of rights. Otherwise it is a superfluous distraction.
Skip Shipman | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:15 am | #
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It might serve you to eat some bran as you are quite obviously full of shit. You are also devoit of any constitution whatsoever.

There was no pardon, there was commutal. This is not the reason for him to resign, it was only the reason for people to wake up to his high crimes and misdemeanors like....

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

BREAKING THE OATH OF THE PRESIDENCY TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION

ENGAGING THE ARMED FORCES IN WAR UNDER FALSE PRETENSE

ILLEGALLY WIRETAPPING AMERICAN CITIZENS

UTILIZING A PUBLIC OFFICE FOR PERSONAL GAIN

AND AT LEAST 100 OTHERS...

I think you stepped into the wrond board, WE READ HERE!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:33 am | #

Can anyone explain why Stephen Colbert uses many of these same gestures and why Kissinger is often a spotlighted contributor to his program?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...HfwBLxUloU& NR=1
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:17 am | #

sane is a computer
anonymous | 07.05.07 - 9:14 am | #

does not compute
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 10:03 am | #

Art Bel crap, l Mystical mind readers and futurist, Lizerd People, the Mayan b.s. and space aliens controling washington, any one belives that, better stop snorting glue, Art Bell is an admitted Free Mason
Bob Jones | 07.05.07 - 9:58 am | #

December 21 2012: the date when the Mayan calender ends. Who gives a shit there dead if they were so ahead of the game why are these scabs extinct. Ju ngle rats ate em, the one who survived no are bending tacos or mowing grass in Los Angeles
Bob Jones | 07.05.07 - 9:50 am | #

It is one thing for the Creator to end the lives of human beings that He Himself created; it is something else entirely to take it upon oneself to play God and judge your fellow man worthy of death, and then to execute that judgment.
Only people who have never killed anyone can talk glibly about killing other people.
Judge not lest you be judged by the same standard that you use against others.
Hate is the real enemy...hate and fear!
anonymous | 07.05.07 - 9:31 am | #

The important thing to remember when reading the exploits of Biblical characters is that they are doing what God called them to do, or not doing what God called them to do. In other words, the point is OBEDIENCE to the expressed will of God. Since Jesus died on the cross to free all men from sin and death, He has not ordered anyone to kill anyone else for any reason. If you don't forgive and love your enemies, how can you say you follow Christ?
anonymous | 07.05.07 - 9:27 am | #

...the fool has said in his heart there is no God.
anonymous | 07.05.07 - 9:15 am | #

sane is a computer
anonymous | 07.05.07 - 9:14 am | #

i read the speech and thought it was a great sentiment. i cant help thinking that it is a shame however that he feels the need to mention god.

what a shame that it is the 21st century and people still believe in phantoms. no greater excuse for violence than religion. no easier excuse to be made by world leaders who cannot be christian/muslim or whatever or they wouldn't murder children.

open your eyes it feels liberating.

read richard dawkins, the god delusion

peace love and unity
john | 07.05.07 - 8:25 am | #

Oh what luck. Sane was here now to see that. Err.. umm.. oh yeah, the odds of him being here to see that WAS 100%. He is the denial of service spammer. It's not like he could ever not be here.

Hi sane, And all your other posting names here. How is your Zionist disinformation campaign going? How many GENTILES have you exposed today for being the cause of all worldy evil?
Rich | 07.05.07 - 7:26 am | #

Sane, if I check the Alex Jones threads tomorrow, or any other day in the future, what would you say the odds are that I will find the thread comes to an end at some of YOUR spam?

What would you say the odds are of that?

100%? Is it a 100% CERTAINTY, that the thread will always close in a flurry of sane spam?

Or is it only 95% because it might end in one of your OTHER posting names instead?

Sane, what WOULD a denial of service spammer as you are known for look like, if you are not it? What would that look like?

What would be the odds of all threads ending in the spam of a denial of service spam attacker? Would it be the SAME ODDS as finding your spam there?

FOr those who wonder WHY sane spams Alex Jones, HOURLY, 7 days a week, with NO INTERMISSION...

Sane is a Zionist Megaphoner. Because Alex Jones discussion exposed that Israelis, Zionists, Bolshevists, Marxists of Jewish ethnicity were the central players of the 9-11 inside job, Sane came here to spam away that GENTILES DID IT. Gentiles and Illuminati are the SAME WORD for sane. Just remove 'illuminati' and insert 'gentile' and he spams away his same old Jewish Supremacy blather... but, because he replaced his hatred for all gentiles with.. ONLY GENTILES ARE ILLUMINATI.. that makes it something else apparently.
Rich | 07.05.07 - 7:23 am | #

Pirates and Emperers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...BWGo7pef8& eurl=
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 6:51 am | #

Arrest outside Obama's hotel
http://www.politico.com/news/sto.../0707/ 4795.html
By: Ben Smith Jul 5, 2007 03:47 AM EST
OTTUMWA, IA -- Iowa police arrested a man outside the hotel where Barack Obama spent Tuesday night after the man was confronted by Obama's Secret Service detail. Ottumwa Police Lieutenant Tom McAndrew said Davit Zakaryan, of Cincinnati, Oh., was charged with illegally possessing a concealed knife more than 8 inches long after he was arrested for failing to produce a drivers license Wednesday morning. "We have no reason to think he was a threat at all," Lt. McAndrew said. Zakaryan, 24, in a white undershirt, was pacing outside his small, black car with Ohio license plates when Obama's security detail confronted near Obama's motorcade in the parking lot of the Fairfield Inn in Ottumwa. Soon, local police arrived, and began inspecting his car and identity documents. The scene was visible to departing reporters on the nearby press bus. A person familiar with the encounter said the man, who appeared to have been born outside the country, had given contradictory answers to an agent about his presence outside the hotel, saying at one point that he was planning to show up at a campaign event later in the day, and also saying he'd seen the Obama campaign bus. Obama's campaign spokesman declined to comment on the incident, and Secret Service Spokesman Darrin Blackford confirmed the arrest, but referred questions to the Ottumwa police. McAndrew said he didn't think the Secret Service was continuing to follow the case. He said Zakaryan is being held in Wapello County Jail on $6,825 bond. Obama was assigned a Secret Service detail earlier this year in response to unspecified threats.
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Did Davit have a copy of Catcher in the Rye on him???
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 6:40 am | #

Shoppers step over stab victim
http://www.news.com.au/courierma...382- 952,00.html
July 04, 2007 12:00am

AS A stabbing victim lay dying on the floor of a convenience store, five shoppers, including one who stopped to take a photo with a mobile phone, stepped over the woman. The June 23 incident, captured on a store surveillance video, received scant news coverage until a columnist for The Wichita Eagle, in the US state of Kansas, today disclosed the existence of the video and its contents. Police have repeatedly refused to release the video, saying it is part of their investigation. "It was tragic to watch," police spokesman Gordon Bassham said. "The fact that people were more interested in taking a picture with a cell phone and shopping for snacks rather than helping this innocent young woman is, frankly, revolting." LaShanda Calloway was stabbed during a fight at the store, but it was not part of a robbery, Bassham said. It took about two minutes for someone to call police to report the crime, he said. Calloway, 27, died at a hospital from her injuries. "The lack of concern for humanity over this young woman's life is deeply troubling," Bassham said. Bassham said the district attorney's office would have to decide whether any of the shoppers could be charged. It was uncertain what law, if any, would be applicable. A state statute for failure to render aid specifically refers only to victims of a car accident. Two suspects have been arrested in the stabbing. Cherish M McCullough, 19, was charged with first-degree murder. Another suspect, who turned himself in a few days later, had not yet been charged today, according to the Sedgwick County prosecutor's office. Eagle columnist Mark McCormick said he learned about the video when he called Wichita Police Chief Norman Williams to ask about a phone call he had received from a reader complaining about a Police Department policy that requires emergency medical personnel to wait until police secure a crime scene before rendering aid. "This is just appalling," Williams told the newspaper. "I could continue shopping and not render aid and then take time out to take a picture? That's crazy. What happened to our respect for life?"

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9-11 truther I am Tron 2.0
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 6:37 am | #

Sane, Do you live on here or what? And I thought I was bad! Either that or you have other people posting for you? Are you on here 24/7 or what?
9-11 truther | 07.05.07 - 6:34 am | #

Italy: Boob jobs are top graduation gift
http://www.ananova.com/news/stor...1361.html? menu=
Breast enlargements are now the most common graduation gift for girls who pass their secondary school exams in Italy.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 6:18 am | #

Advanced Search Tips Released from SMX Advanced
http://www.seroundtable.com/arch...ves/ 013730.html
Tips not only include how to embrace the universal search, but also the small, but tough tidbits of information seasoned site builders will enjoy.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 6:17 am | #

Bizarre Sex Habits of The Extreme Right-Wing [priceless-must have read libby's book]
http://www.newshounds.us/2005/ 05...e_rightwing.php
Alan Colmes of the Alan Colmes Show of FOX asked Horsley about his background, including a statement that he had admitted to engaging in homosexual and bestiality sex. Colmes: "You had sex with animals?" Horsley: "Absolutely. I was a fool. When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule."
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 6:14 am | #

The Child Prostitution Ring that Reached Bush Whitehouse
http://www.voxfux.com/features/b...up/ franklin.htm
The following archive paints a chilling portrait of what is really going on in the upper echelons of the ruling elite here in America. The story involves children from orphanages in Nebraska being flown around the United States by top Republican officials in order to engage in child sex orgies with America's ruling elite.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 6:11 am | #

Pensions chief to oversee government IT
http://www.computerworlduk.com/m...cfm? newsid=3863
Alexis Cleveland, chief executive of the Pension Service, is expected to be appointed to a top delivery role at the Cabinet Office that will include overseeing the government ’s IT efforts. It is understood that government chief information officer John Suffolk is likely to report to Cleveland in her new role.
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Yipeeeee more conflicts of interest!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 6:11 am | #

>Not terrorism, but as CNN talks about it, they include visuals of the car on fire at the airport.

They really think we are that fucking dumb.
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Tube derails during London rush hour
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper.../ breaking21.htm
Irish Times, Ireland - 43 minutes ago Fourteen emergency service vehicles attended the scene of a Tube derailment in central London this morning. Part of London's Central line was suspended ...

Hundreds trapped after Tube derails Guardian Unlimited
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ uklate...6758763,00.html
Derailment causes rush-hour chaos on London's Tube Belfast Telegraph
http:// www.belfasttelegraph.co.u...icle2737664.ece
LONDON TUBE TRAIN DERAILS Mirror.co.uk
ITV.com - Guardian Unlimited

Tube train derails in east London
Manchester.com, UK - 16 minutes ago
http://www.manchester.com/Nation...n- 18201724.html
The London transport network was experiencing severe disruption this morning after a tube train on the Central line derailed at about 09:00 BST. ...
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 6:09 am | #

Live Earth a Big Lie!
http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=1...k/?c=117& a=1049
Another self serving hypocritical celebrity sham.

Australian PM denies troops in Iraq because of oil
http://www.forbes.com/markets/ fe...afx3885224.html
SYDNEY (Thomson Financial) - Australian Prime Minister John Howard on Thursday played down comments from his defense minister that securing oil supply was a key factor behind the country's involvement in the war in Iraq.

Brunei to sell warships worth £600m
http:// business.timesonline.co.u...icle2028716.ece
The Sultan of Brunei is selling three corvette warships built by BAE Systems for £600 million after falling out with the British defence company.

Hundreds surrender at Pakistan mosque
http://www.itv.com/news/ 7aa46208...97f5690093.html
Around 5,000 people remain inside a besieged Pakistan mosque after 700 radical Muslim students surrendered following violent clashes. On Tuesday, Islamabad hospital officials said 11 people, including a soldier, four students and a television cameraman died alongside others caught in the crossfire.

British taxman wants power to seize cash from accounts
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ pages...in_page_id=1770
The taxman is demanding powers to seize unpaid tax straight from our bank accounts. HM Revenue and Customs would snatch money from bank or building society accounts without the taxpayer's consent. HMRC suggests it will seek a change in the law to allow it to avoid having to seek a court order.

RIAA sued for using illegal investigatory practices
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/...- practices.html
A grandmother targeted by the RIAA for file-sharing is striking back at the controversial music industry association, arguing that it has knowingly engaged in "one or more overt acts of unlawful private investigation" to further its case.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 6:04 am | #

[video] Ron Paul supporters SPAM the real world - Phoenix 7/4/07
http://www.freecentury.com/2007/...d-phoenix-7407/
The aftermath of the "overnight revolution" July 4, 07. Signs Everywhere!

U.S. Labor Secretary Chao: American workers are lazy, angry, and smell bad
http://www.rense.com/general77/r...al77/ racist.htm
In comments remiscent of war propaganda, Labor Sec'y Elaine Chao said that in order to avoid being outsourced, U.S. workers "must be punctual, dress appropriately and have good personal hygiene... They need anger-management and conflict-resolution skills, and they have to be able to accept direction."

Wake Up People, Both Parties are Failing You
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/a...3004/-1/ opinion
Yet, one must ask. Where are the American people? Where is the outrage? The answer is simple. The American people just don ’t care. The American people are asleep. They’ve grown accustomed to entrusting their lives and liberties to tyrants and fools. Ron Paul is getting popular and showing no signs of shutting up. Hope they don't pull an RFK on him

Tony Blair: officially more useless than a vibrator
http://techdigest.tv/2007/06/ ton...blair_offi.html
A poll for a UK-based adult toys website shows that Tony Blair is the man who women would least like to be stranded with on a desert island, while for 20% of them, the object they'd most like to take along would be a vibrator with unlimited batteries - over double the iPod's figure of 9%.

Scientists produce unprecedented simulation of cosmic evolution
http://www.sciencedaily.com/ rele...70628160837.htm
By incorporating the physics of black holes into a highly sophisticated model running on a powerful supercomputing system,

BBC slammed for Wi-Fi documentary that used biased radiation detector
http://techdigest.tv/2007/05/ bbc...ops_more_f.html
The BBC's Panorama investigated whether Wi-Fi radiation is dangerous for children, yet the monitoring devices used to assess how high the levels were in classrooms were designed and built by... an anti Wi-Fi campaigner, whose pressure group claims Wi-Fi radiation is dangerous for children. Now that's what I call impartial.

Dubai International Capital Takes 3.12% Stake in EADS [NOT GOOD!]
http://online.wsj.com/article/ SB...=googlenews_wsj
LONDON -- United Arab Emirates-based investment fund Dubai International Capital said Thursday it has taken a 3.12% stake in European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. through its $2 billion Global Strategic Equities Fund.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:46 am | #

RFID - Technology Video 6 min - Apr 2, 2006 - (68 ratings) Video that details the use of RFID technologies in the supply chain and is ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h? v=4Zj7txoDxbE
RFID Passport Shield Failure Demo - Flexilis 4 min - Aug 2, 2006 - (94 ratings) be detected by a nearby inquiring RFID reader. The security brief also demonstrates ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- XXaqraF7pI
IBM RFID Checkout in Supermarket 30 sec - Jul 26, 2006 - (28 ratings) gives a future view on how to use RFID to shop in a supermarket without have ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- ZYY85IyDNM
RFID chip hand implantation 4 min - Oct 17, 2005 - (24 ratings) A HiTag S 2048 RFID glass tag measuring 2.12x12mm is implanted into my left ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G...h? v=GgjVWaLxoL4
RFID CHIP 9 min - Sep 3, 2006 - (16 ratings) RFID CHIP
http://video.google.com/ videopla...528622277510793
RFID IBM Commercial 31 sec - Sep 14, 2006 RFID IBM Commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h? v=llnUJkH0Mlc
Intermec RFID Rules - The Guide to Getting RFID 10 min - Feb 15, 2006 - (42 ratings) great general-education video on RFID. Perfect for the classroom and the boardroom. ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...307986351726801
2. RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) and Surveillance 1 hr 34 min - Jan 27, 2006 - (8 ratings) The first panel at the Santa Clara University Computer & High Technology Law Journal "Privacy in the Information Age: Databases, Digital Dossiers, and Surveillance" conference ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...864808178615771
The future of RFID 5 min - Nov 20, 2006 - (9 ratings) The future of RFID
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...h? v=JMIQEKsYzDk
IBM RFID Clipped Tag 2 min - Sep 21, 2006 - (52 ratings) to tear off the antenna of an RFID tag, thereby significantly reducing the
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h? v=95VOxKp0s74
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:32 am | #

Navigating the World's Photographs
http://video.google.com/ videopla...860538872750364
Google Tech Talks June 13, 2007

ABSTRACT

There's a big difference between looking at a photograph of a place and being there. But what if you had access to every photo ever captured of that place and could conjure up any view at will? With billions of photographs currently available online, the Internet is beginning to resemble such a database, capturing most of the world's significant sites from a huge number of vantage points and viewing conditions. For example, a Google image search for "notre dame" or "grand canyon" each returns more than half a million photos, showing the sites from myriad viewpoints, different times of day and night, and changes in season, weather and decade.

This talk explores ways of transforming this massive, unorganized photo collection into visualizations of the world's sites, cities, and landscapes. After a brief recap of our work on Photo Tourism and Photosynth, I will focus on current efforts and newest results, in the domains of 3D scene reconstruction and new visual interfaces for navigating photo collections.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:26 am | #

Great day to start a revolution, but I guess we can wait until 9/11!!!
John N | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:26 am | #

Artificial General Intelligence: Now Is the Time
http://video.google.com/ videopla...557046246483319
Google Tech Talks May 30, 2007

ABSTRACT

Dr. Ben Goertzel - Artificial General Intelligence: Now Is the Time Essay: www.kurzweilai.net/articles/art0701.html Abstract: When the AI field was founded over 50 years ago, it was squarely focused on the grand dream of creating software displaying general intelligence at the human level or beyond. Since that time the field has drifted in a direction Ray Kurzweil has called "Narrow AI": the creation of intelligent software applications carrying out highly particular functions. The relationship between this sort of narrow AI and "artificial general intelligence" (AGI) as in the original dreams of the AI field, is an issue of dispute among experts. Some researchers believe powerful AGI will result eventually from the development and combination of narrow AI products -- such as, for example, data mining software as is commonly used in the finance industry; auto navigation software like the kind used in the DARPA Grand Challenge; and last but not least, sophisticated search engines like Google. Other researchers believe that AGI will only come about via emulation of the human brain, once brain mapping technology has advanced further. On the other hand, an increasing minority of researchers believes that AGI is most likely to be achieved via computer science researchers explicitly attempting to create AGI software programs, divorced from any particular narrow application area. In this talk I will briefly overview this emerging subdiscipline of "AGI", including the work of various researchers such as Stan Franklin, Pei Wang and Stuart Shapiro. I will then discuss my own work on the Novamente Cognition Engine, an AGI project based on combining a number of knowledge representations and reasoning and learning techniques into an integrative architecture motivated by complex systems theory, and initially oriented at the control of virtual agents in 3D simulation worlds such as Second Life.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:25 am | #

Supersymmetry, Extra Dimensions and the Origin of Mass
http://video.google.com/ videopla...710188844062148
Google Tech Talks June 18, 2007

ABSTRACT

"Supersymmetry, Extra Dimensions and the Origin of Mass: Exploring the Nature of the Universe Using PetaScale Data Analysis"

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC), scheduled to begin operation in Summer 2008, will collide protons at energies not accessible since the time of the early Universe. The study of the reactions produced at the LHC has the potential to revolutionize our understanding of the most fundamental forces in nature. The ATLAS experiment, currently being installed at the LHC, is designed to detect collisions at the LHC, to collect the relevant data and to provide a unified framework for the reconstruction and analysis of these data. This talk will review the goals of the ATLAS program and will describe the software and computing challenges associated analyzing these data. Among the relevant issues are the need to develop and maintain a unified analysis framework for use by more than 1000 scientists and the need for distributed access to large (petabyte) scale data samples, including a significant metadata component.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:22 am | #

Second thought Sane, do you have a sister?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 5:22 am | #

The Implications of OpenID
http://video.google.com/ videopla...395847791059857
Google Tech Talks June 25, 2007

ABSTRACT

Simon Willison OpenID is an emerging standard that provides simple, decentralised authentication for the Web. OpenID follows the Unix philosophy, solving one small problem rather than attempting to tackle the many larger challenges posed by online identity. This talk will explore the implications of OpenID, and explore the best practices required to take advantage of this new technology while avoiding the potential pitfalls.

Speaker: Simon Willison Simon Willison is a consultant on OpenID and client- and server-side Web development, and a co-creator of the Django Web framework. Before going frelance Simon worked on Yahoo!'s Technology Development team, and prior to that at the Lawrence Journal-World, an award winning local newspaper in Kansas. Simon maintains a popular Web development weblog at http://simonwillison.net/
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:21 am | #

Sane. What in the name of God does that crap have to do with God? What kind of music gets you off? Answer.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 5:20 am | #

Statistical Aspects of Data Mining (Stats 202) Day 1
http://video.google.com/ videopla...340215644364502
Google Tech Talks June 26, 2007

ABSTRACT

This is the Google campus version of Stats 202 which is being taught at Stanford this summer. I will follow the material from the Stanford class very closely. That material can be found at www.stats202.com. The main topics are exploring and visualizing data, association analysis, classification, and clustering. The textbook is Introduction to Data Mining by Tan, Steinbach and Kumar. Googlers are welcome to attend any classes which they think might be of interest to them.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:18 am | #

Toward the First Revolution in the Mind Sciences
http://video.google.com/ videopla...112177262602885
Google TechTalks August 8, 2006

B. Alan Wallace, Ph.D. has been a scholar and practitioner of Buddhism since 1970. He is currently seeking ways to integrate Buddhist contemplative practices and Western science to advance the study of the mind. He is the founder and president of the Santa Barbara Institute for Consciousness Studies ( http://sbinstitute.com ).

ABSTRACT Galileo took a seminal role in launching the first revolution in the physical sciences, and a key element in this revolution was the rigorous, sophisticated observation of physical phenomena. Darwin likewise launched a revolution in the life sciences on the basis of decades of meticulous observation of biological phenomena. Although scientists have been studying the mind for more than a century, no comparable revolution has taken place in the mind sciences, and the missing element that may account for this delayed revolution is the absence of rigorous, precise observations of mental phenomena. By integrating the third-person methodologies of the cognitive sciences with the first-person methods for examining the mind that have been developed in Buddhism and other contemplative traditions, our present generation may bring about the first revolution in the mind sciences.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:16 am | #

Sane. Sup. My territorry. Music. Come out, speak. What do you like? You are my friend bro.
I like Pearl Jam, Rush, Iron Maiden, Priest, VH, U2, Reo, Styx, Ted, ZZ, Lynard, Sammy.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 5:16 am | #

Vh rocks. I love Van Halen. All heart. killer music. What more could you want? This is the real shit.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 5:13 am | #

I have the strange feeling though, that sane would rather relate to Roger Waters, who I also love. What say you, Sane? True?
Floyd rules. So does Zep.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 5:11 am | #

No EU - Common Purpose EUs 5th Column in UK Brian Gerrish Full Presentation
http://video.google.com/ videopla...272006284428844
Full Presentation: Brian Gerrish discovered the hidden machinations of Common Purpose in Plymouth England some time ago. CP influence is seen in force throughout the BBC, Local Councils, Police, Schools, National Health Service, and many government agencies that run towns in the UK. Leading toward ever closer union, it is a subversive way to set up new leaders of the coming Totalitarian Socialist State (The European Union). Bringing people in through 'Self Improvement' courses, the talented are picked and indoctrinated in CP ideology. Destined to break up traditional viewpoints it is a very effective and hidden tool of manipulators behind the scenes. Many CP trained 'leaders' are well aware of the true purpose of the organization, most are not but are serving the goal as a result of their retraining in the CP mode of thinking. Brainwashing, a cult, a subversive organization, are terms readily applied to the methods and organization of the group.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:10 am | #

Google Tech Talks June 20, 2007
http://video.google.com/ videopla...980608492301139
ABSTRACT

The label 'social media' has been attached to a quickly growing number of Web sites whose content is primarily user-driven. Examples of these sites include: blogs --- personal online journals that allow users to share their thoughts and receive feedback on them; Wikipedia --- collectively written and edited online encyclopedia; Flickr, Del.icio.us and Digg --- Web sites that allow users to share, discuss and rank photos, Web pages and news stories respectively. In the process of using social media sites, users are adding metadata in the form of tags, ratings and social networks.

While each of the metadata types above offers a rich source of evidence on its own, the connections between them create a treasure trove of rich interlinked data that will revolutionize information processing. The collective knowledge and opinions generated independently by many users will lead to new solutions to hard information processing problems. In this talk I will describe application of social metadata to four information processing problems: recommendation, collaborative evaluation of documents, information personalization and information discovery. Kristina Lerman is an Assistant research professor at the Computer Science Department at USC and a Project Leader at the USC Information Sciences Institute. She received a PhD in physics from UC Santa Barbara in 1995. Her research interests include semantic modeling of information source, mathematical analysis of multi-agent systems, and lately, social web and social information processing.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:09 am | #

Just check out Sammy Hagar and Loren Adams. Then you'll see what i'm talking about.
Loren knows me too. Just ask him.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 5:09 am | #

Google TechTalks March 7, 2006
http://video.google.com/ videopla...813884612792878
Will Noel Roger L. Easton, Jr. Michael B. Toth

ABSTRACT The Archimedes Palimpsest is a 10th Century medieval manuscript that is the subject of an ongoing technical, scientific and conservation effort at the Walters Art Museum in Baltimore, Maryland. Since 1999, the multidisciplinary team has been disbinding, conserving, imaging, analyzing, transcribing and studying the 174 parchment folios – yielding approximately 400Gb of data to date. The Palimpsest, which the team affectionately calls “Archie,” includes at least seven treatises by Archimedes: The only copies of two of his Treatises, /The Method/ and /Stomachion/; the only copy in Greek of /On Floating Bodies;/ and copies of the /Equilibrium of Planes/, /Spiral Lines/, /The Measurement of the Circle/, and /Sphere and Cylinder/. It also contains 10 pages of text by the 4th century B.C. Attic Greek orator Hyperides; six folios from a Neo-Platonic philosophical text that has yet to be identified, but may be commentaries on Aristotle; four folios from a liturgical book; and twelve pages from two different books, the text of which has yet to be deciphered. «
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:07 am | #

In the video "right now" VH shows many things. Including goverment deceptions. I love VH. I also got inside people. Fuckin Van Halen rocks.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 5:06 am | #

>>>The Lightbringers - Origins and Actual Activities of Freemasonry - Excellent -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h? v=ZvFJJxz5bzk
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:05 am | #

VH! Wha?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 5:03 am | #

Written, directed, and final cut screened prior to 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 5:00 am | #

Michelle Malkin is pretty, but she is helping the enemy. So what's up Michelle? Why the lies?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 4:59 am | #

Where Boomba thinks things are headed if we don't wake the F*CK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h? v=vrZYlFdvFGw
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 4:55 am | #

>>>FEMA running its monthly drill, COOL!
At least now we know the sound that will be used to usher us on the trains...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=H4FbiAwVMCg
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 4:54 am | #

Roth is a punk, but he had a couple things straight, including patriotism.
Put that in the pipe......
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 4:54 am | #

Yeah. Who is afraid to post? Who? I am inside your comments. I am your face.
Love life and loving it.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 4:50 am | #

Sane, I am laughing. Big smiles, bro. Keep fighting. You are winning the fight.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 4:46 am | #

And so yet if a man comes talking a whole lot of shit about the Constitution, yet cant back it up, fuck him. The shit needs to be backed up.
I, for one, back it.
635 n12th st Apt#1
Spearfish SD 57783
Phone # 605-645-8705
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 4:42 am | #

OK I got a simple question...WHY???????????????
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:17 am | #

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Because some asshole owns the plant. They can't figure out any other product that wouldn't get smacked by chinese competition.
Morons/money
Michael D. | 07.05.07 - 4:37 am | #

And no man who proclaims himself, and yet recognizes the Constitution, is verified.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 4:36 am | #

Fingerprints and iris scans as hospitals tighten security
Ben Woodhead The Australian Tuesday July 3, 2007
http://prisonplanet.com/ articles...ingerprints.htm
DOCTORS in South Australian hospitals may be subjected to biometric fingerprint and iris scans if they want to access sensitive patient records and prescribe drugs. The technology, which includes keyboard-mounted fingerprint scanners and smartcard readers, could be deployed in hospital emergency departments within 12 months. The scanners would be used to strengthen security around patient records as hospitals build new links between the numerous information systems used to manage medical data.
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Do they think we are fucking stupid????

Of course they need total command and control of all medical personnel, procedures, and equipment in preparation for their biochem false flag.

Why else would they have that BS doctor terrorist crap going on?

Don't trust doctors...they are terrorists, trust us we will save you from them.

WTF? They took an oath, studied for a decade and now some dickweed with one weel police acadamy training is gonna tell me what is up??
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 4:35 am | #

Hey, your own path, facts and details? Let's stand for the Constitution as written.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 4:34 am | #

Yah wadda ya? Sup nigga? No deal. I dominate now, want a certificate?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 4:30 am | #

On July 4, Bush tells troops to prepare for more deaths.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...or-more-deaths/
The President “defended his Iraq war policy in a patriotic Fourth of July talk, saying that while he honors the sacrifice of U.S. troops, now is not the time to bring them home. … Bush said victory in Iraq will require ‘more patience, more courage and more sacrifice.’”

Conyers to hold hearing on executive clemency.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...utive-clemency/
The House Judiciary Committee, “upset after Bush’s decision to grant clemency to I. Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby,” will hold a hearing on July 11 to examine presidential clemency power. From a statement issued by Conyers’s office: In light of Monday’s announcement by the president that he was commuting the prison sentence for Scooter Libby, it is imperative that Congress look into presidential authority to grant clemency, and how such power may be abused. Taken to its extreme, the use of such authority could completely circumvent the law enforcement process and prevent credible efforts to investigate wrongdoing in the executive branch.

Was Rove involved in commutation discussions?
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...on-discussions/
According to the New York Times, Republican sources say that Karl Rove did not have an “extensive” role in the commutation deliberations “because his participation would have been awkward“:

Karl Rove, the chief White House strategist and one of Mr. Bush’s closest and longest-serving aides, had been implicated in the leak investigation, and it was unclear how extensive a role he played in the deliberations. The special prosecutor in the case, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, ultimately decided not to pursue charges against Mr. Rove. Some Republicans said they believed that Mr. Rove steered clear of the pardon discussions, perhaps because his participation would have been awkward.“I talk to Karl a lot, and I just never got any sense that he was involved in that at all,” said Vin Weber, a Republican former congressman who said he believed that Mr. Libby should be pardoned.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 4:30 am | #

Liddle yah wha? Get some. Don't want know trolls, sup, fuck it, got magic?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 4:27 am | #

Lords To Hear Terrorism Law Appeals
http://news.sky.com/skynews/ arti...1273746,00.html
One of the Government's key anti-terror measures is facing a crucial challenge in the House Of Lords.

Surge Seen in Applications for Citizenship [Like...DUH!!!!]
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/0...=rssnyt& emc=rss
The number of legal immigrants seeking to become United States citizens is surging, officials say, prompted by imminent increases in fees to process naturalization applications, citizenship drives across the country and new feelings of insecurity among immigrants.

Google - DoubleClick Hits Privacy Concerns
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/...=rssnyt& emc=rss
Internet search engine Google Inc.'s takeover of online ad tracker DoubleClick Inc. claimed to damage European Union privacy rights and limit consumers' choice of Web content. Further investigation reveals...

Google is blasted after an employee posts personal opinion of Michael Moore [was not personal, was guided by pharma]
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...7/05/ GOOGLE.TMP
A Google Inc. employee's critical blog posting about the Michael Moore documentary "Sicko" landed the Internet giant in a firestorm over the past week, during which the company was forced to retreat from the politically charged comments, not once, but twice.

Anti-Ron Paul digg spammer EXPOSED
http://ronpaulforum.com/showthre...hread.php? t=583
Digg deleted two posts about this. Check it out!

US oil groups accuse Washing
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/ 9878b246...0b5df10621.html
The US oil industry claims Washington undermined oil companies ’ negotiating position in Venezuela by trying to extract more tax from them in the US. Venezuela last week took majority control of key oil investments by foreign companies. ADVERTISEMENT While BP, Statoil, Chevron and Total accepted new terms, ExxonMobil and ConocoPhillips refused.

Annoyance 2.0 - ISPs automatically insert ads into your web pages
http://www.nebuad.com/providers/...s/ providers.php
New appliances, like this one from nebuAD, allow ISPs to automatically insert ads into any web page. Ad-blocking software does not prevent the ads from appearing. Will there be a backlash against this new intrusion?

Ron Paul: "The Honest Mechanic"
http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp? nid=44751
Dr. Paul has been referred to by former Treasury Secretary William Simon as "the one exception to the Gang of 535 on Capitol Hill."

Hello No, We Won't Pay! Some Americans opposed to the war not paying taxes
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireSto...TC- RSSFeeds0312
When the United States invaded Iraq more than four years ago, war opponent David Gross asked his bosses for a radical pay cut, enough so he wouldn't have to pay taxes to support the war.

What Frederick Douglass Said 155 Years Ago Today
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...7/4/14713/ 51462
My number one personal hero is Frederick Douglass, the runaway slave whose persistent eloquence was one of the leading factors persuading Abraham Lincoln to bring black soldiers into the Union Army. On July 4, 1852, he delivered a speech that both roused and riled those who heard it or read it later. Here it is, without further comment.

Brazil invited to become special EU partner
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,2...1- 23109,00.html
The European Union has invited Brazil to join a small group of strategic partners in a move European leaders hoped could reinvigorate struggling world trade talks. A strategic partnership with Brazil would put its relations with the EU on the same level as the other main emerging giants, China, Russia and India, and revive a historic partnership.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 4:22 am | #

eindenses. Look territorial,gabe....
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 4:13 am | #

Media gets p0wned by Ron Paul 1 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=Nkfg0PixtnU
Media gets p0wned by Ron Paul 2 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h?v=IEB8OCN- lo8
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:52 am | #

Roadside bomb kills six Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan
http://www.canada.com/victoriati...db1d26f& k=86815
The deaths bring to 66 the number of Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan since troops were deployed there in 2002. One diplomat has also been killed.

Biden calls for partitioning in Iraq
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/ ...30f000d121f.txt
Joe Biden, the man whose tenure in the U.S. Senate has been succeeded by only 26 others in American history, reached the scheduled campaign stop, then plopped down on the plush grass.

Ron Paul Supports ClutterMe
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/70...orts_clutterme/
Wait till the end to understand the title. This is the way to make a viral 100x better.

Princess Diana: Way Too Many Coincidences For It To Have Been An Accident?
http://princess-diana-life-n- dea...01_archive.html
For tens years now, the events surrounding Princess Diana's death have still not been properly explained!

Images reveal Saturn’s ‘giant sponge’[WOW!]
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle2028667.ece
SPACE: Close-up images of one of Saturn ’s moons have revealed an extraordinary landscape that looks like a giant sponge. See the picture here ..

Fred Thompson -- Not a Nixon hero, but a Nixon informer
http://www.boston.com/news/natio...? p1=MEWell_Pos1
WASHINGTON -- The day before Senate Watergate Committee minority counsel Fred Thompson made the inquiry that launched him into the national spotlight -- asking an aide to President Nixon whether there was a White House taping system -- he telephoned Nixon's lawyer.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:46 am | #

"Human Trafficking" Law Fires up Washington State Meetup Group
http://www.thestranger.com/seatt...tent? oid=258048
It all began, oddly enough, with Democratic Senator Maria Cantwell and a stand she accused US based international dating sites as being the Nexis of human trafficking (even though there has never been a connection). Now, someone who doesn't like her unconstitutional law is fighting back by starting a Ron Paul Meetup Group.
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Some local people are getting the message.

If you want to stop human trafficking interogate GWHB, otherwise you are playing games with our civil liberties!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:30 am | #

Construction Woes Add to Fears at Embassy in Iraq
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...l? referrer=digg
U.S. diplomats in Iraq, increasingly fearful over their personal safety after recent mortar attacks inside the Green Zone, are pointing to new delays and mistakes in the U.S. Embassy construction project in Baghdad as signs that their vulnerability could grow in the months ahead.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:26 am | #

3D Rendering Technology
http://www.cubiclesurfing.com/3d...ing-technology/
Pretty cool technology manipulating photos to add shadows expressions, even clothing. I bet the tabloids will have a blast with this. Around 5:15 it gets pretty interesting.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:23 am | #

Woman: Officer left for two hours during traffic stop
http://www.wfaa.com/ sharedconten...ys.37be007.html
At worst, Irita Neal thought she might get a speeding ticket. Or maybe a ticket for littering, too. Instead, the 27-year-old administrative assistant said, she waited more than two hours for a police officer to return during a traffic stop. Then he returned her key ring with someone else's keys on it.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:22 am | #

Public Admission: Oil behind Iraq war
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun...182- 661,00.html
THE Federal Government has admitted the need to secure oil supplies is a factor in Australia's continued military involvement in Iraq.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:21 am | #

Bush and Kennedy Nurture Common Ground on Legislative Goals
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/0...r=1& oref=slogin
In the more than six years since, Mr. Bush has turned to Mr. Kennedy, the longtime Massachusetts senator who is his most ardent liberal Democratic critic, time and again to push the biggest items on his domestic agenda: education, prescription drugs and the immigration bill that failed last week.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:18 am | #

Los Alamos lab delivers first bomb-ready nuke trigger in 18 years
http://www.chron.com/disp/story....tx/ 4938069.html
Los Alamos National Laboratory has delivered to the federal government the first plutonium core certified for use in nuclear warheads in 18 years. The National Nuclear Security Administration certified the plutonium pit — a softball-size sphere of enriched uranium encased in stainless steel — in early June. Politicians — including Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M., and Rep. Heather Wilson, R-N.M. — along with Energy Department and Defense Department officials gathered in Los Alamos Monday to "congratulate the lab for a job well done," Roark said.

The pit is designed for the W88 nuclear warhead carried by submarine-launched missiles, Roark said. The NNSA, the semiautonomous agency within the Energy Department that oversees the nuclear weapons program, has asked the lab to deliver 10 pits a year in the near term, Roark said. The NNSA also has asked the lab to "go through the exercise to see whether it is possible to deliver between 30 and 50 per year" between 2012 and 2014, he said. Los Alamos lab has fashioned about 20 test plutonium pits since 2002, he said.
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OK I got a simple question...WHY???????????????
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:17 am | #

Newly Declassified Window Film Keeps Out Hackers, Phone Calls, EMPs
http://www.sciam.com/ article.cfm...EAC1C6DC382972F
Like a tinfoil hat for your house, new technology promises to block hackers' access to your wireless transmissions —and protect against EMP attacks and explosions, to boot
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Just read the first paragraph to see how much this article is reality based. But as far as wireless shit...hmmmm
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:12 am | #

July 4th, 1972 - A blast from the past
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20.../july-4th-1972/
Here's a news report from NBC on July 4th, 972. Ahhh, the Nixon era.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:08 am | #

New Jersey Says 141 Sex Offenders Used MySpace
http://www.reuters.com/article/ d...321042320070704
More than 140 sex offenders convicted in New Jersey had profiles on the networking Web site MySpace, the state's attorney general said on Tuesday.
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Here is how it works...

Watch Cathy O'Brien...

Generational child molesters are coerced by illuminati puppets to use their childremn. Illuminati is just getting rid of the competition just like the drug game. In the process [also like the drug game], these totally fake strategies for bringing justice to victims are used to penetrate the dwindling civil liberties we have and to create more meniacal plans for staged witchhunts.

So if they wanted to really deal with child molestation, they would lock up pappy bush. Just watch conspiracy of silence or trance formation in America.

More here:

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/63711/...Your-Children- R
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63623/...ontrolled- Slave

And that is why the investigations always get suddenly stopped. That is why Carr was jetted to US from Thailand with First Class treatment and shrimp. When he arrived out of the hands of people that might listen to him, he was immediately freed. No one knows why? Maybe he had information that implicated others like in the Franklin Cover-Up that implicated George BUsh Whild House Child Sex Slaves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...h? v=ggxiBWv4xYE
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 3:05 am | #

FDA ANNOUNCES PLAN TO ELIMINATE VITAMIN COMPANIES
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ric...rds/ byron36.htm
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Anybody got more on this info???
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:59 am | #

>>[satire]Ron Paul Supporters Storm White House!
Story written: 04 July 2007
http://www.thespoof.com/news/ spo...adline=s2i21413

ABS News Agency. July 4, 2007 - ABS News has just learned that thousands of Ron Paul supporters have stormed the White House, briefly taken it over, and interrogated Vice President Dick Cheney. After the interrogation, Cheney, along with Karl Rove and Ann Coulter, who were also found in Cheney's office, were tarred & feathered. The supporters were emboldened from the recent successful Ron Paul rally in Des Moines, Iowa, and apparently incensed by the news that the Vice President's office had issued the orders to the FBI and CIA to conduct Operation Stifle, the operation to coerce the mainstream media into a media blackout on 2008 Presidential candidate, congressman Ron Paul. The well-organized, well-armed Ron Paul supporters, known as American Freedom Fighters, descended on the White House, driving red white and blue painted SUVs and pickup trucks which they used to crash through barricades, followed by sports cars, sedans, motorcycles, bicycles and riders on horseback. Several helicopters overhead provide reconnaissance, one of which contained syndicated columnist and former Republican Presidential candidate Pat Buchanan, and radio personality Jan Mickelson. Mickelson has bravely covered Ron Paul on his show, in defiance of the media blackout. Surprisingly, the initial wave of approximately 6,000 Freedom Fighters from the Washington DC area did not have to draw their firearms to overcome the White House security guards. The second wave of over 20,000 Freedom Fighters poured into Washington DC from surrounding cities, and also never drew their firearms. The only injury that occurred during the entire operation was when one of the security guards in the White House attempted to fire on the Freedom Fighters. His M-16 rifle malfunctioned, causing him to shoot a fellow security guard in the leg. The M-16 rifle was later determined to be a Chinese-made fake.

Alex Jones, a radio personality who has defied the media blackout on Ron Paul, along with defying most everything else, was on the ground with his bullhorn, guiding in the initial wave of Freedom Fighters and directing the traffic throughout the entire operation. Through years of investigation, and his recent infiltration of the White House as an undercover page, Jones had learned that the security guards guarding the White House were private security guards hired from the Blackwater Security firm. Jones had also uncovered that Blackwater was subcontracting these guards from Arbusto Security, owned by George W. Bush's cousin, Edward "Bud" Bush. Arbusto Security has had legal problems in the past due to the hiring of illegal aliens and convicted felons. Jones passed this intelligence on to the Freedom Fighters, who successfully used it to take control of the White House without firing a shot. Rachel, who was part of the initial wave distracted the security guards inside the building by unzipping her coveralls, revealing her negligee-clad figure, confirmed that many of the security guards could not speak English. After taking over the White House, the Freedom Fighters burst into Vice President Cheney's office. Cheney was found in his office, engaging in what was termed as a "bizarre semi-sexual clothed threesome" with Karl Rove and Ann Coulter. Apparently the three were calling each other nicknames like "Adam's Apple", "Hillbilly Boy", and "Dark Star." The Freedom Fighters interrogated Cheney regarding Operation Stifle, the media blackout on Ron Paul. According to English guitarist, producer, film star Keith Richards, an honorary Freedom Fighter who helped conduct the interrogation, Cheney first claimed executive privilege, and then claimed that he was not part of the executive branch. Later he claimed he was not actually the Vice President, but rather a convenience store owner who got lost on his way to breakfast. Eventually Cheney admitted to ordering the FBI and CIA to conduct Operation Stifle, and the documents ordering Operation Stifle were wrestled from Karl Rove as he dashed towards a paper shredder. Richards said he enjoyed flicking lit cigarettes at Rove, but took pity on Coulter, offering to share his makeup tips with the gangly blonde. "Just look at her. She's a dreadful thing," announced Richards, shaking his head "Perhaps if she felt better about her appearance, she wouldn't be so bleedin' mean".

Cheney, Rove and Coulter were later tarred & feathered, taken outside the building and paraded in front of the huge crowds of cheering Freedom Fighters and onlookers. The cheering continued as the Fighters left the grounds, and they took to the streets of Washington DC, causing total gridlock throughout the city. Excited witnesses, first thinking the event was part of a White House 4th of July celebration, said the Fighters were very polite, even apologetic, and cleaned up the mess they had made as they were leaving. Pat Buchanan was asked if he was surprised by the day's events. "I knew this would happen sooner or later" Buchanan said, "Cheney got what he had coming, but to be honest, I just came along to get a glimpse of Rachel and the other Libertarian ladies". Charlie Sheen was spotted watching the events from a makeshift canteen that had been set up to refresh the Freedom Fighters. When asked what his involvement was in the White House takeover, Sheen exclaimed, while enjoying a Corona and cheese fries "Do you really think that when I hear that thousands of people are going to storm the White House, many of them hotties with guns, I'm going to stay home and watch Oprah? And they're serving beer and munchies?! HEL-LO!" Sheen added "this is the best 4th of July ever!"

Upon hearing of the Freedom Fighter takeover of the White House, and the other events of the day, filmmaker Michael Moore yelled, "Damn! And to think I've been wasting my time working on 'Sicko The Directors Cut'. I'd have given my shares of McDonald's stock to have been there with a camera! Damn!" Presidential candidate, congressman Ron Paul was unavailable for comment. It is unknown if he had any prior knowledge of the White House takeover by the Freedom Fighters. President Bush's office was contacted for his response to these unprecedented events. Spokesperson Lisa Jacobs said that the President, who suffers from pre-senile dementia, had been misplaced for several days. Jacobs said that it's not uncommon for them to lose the President now and then. She added, "Like a bad penny, he always turns up somewhere".
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Try not to piss in your pants reading this
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:55 am | #

Carry your guilt. It is heavy. link.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:53 am | #

Google Beaten by Goodness of Heart in South Korea
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/0...=rssnyt& emc=rss
Tapping a South Korean inclination to help one another on the Web has made Naver.com the undisputed leader of Internet search in the country. It handles more than 77 percent of all Web searches originating in South Korea, a country where more than 70 percent of a population of 48 million use the Internet, most of them with high-speed connections.
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How did they beat Google?

People helping each other-CLASSIC!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:49 am | #

U.S.A. 2.0? Wait and Watch
http://english.ohmynews.com/arti...? at_code=420483
The Libyan leader, in his characteristic manner, had stormed Ghana with a message for the immediate merger of the 53-member African Union countries and the formation of a 2 million strong army to protect the continent. The summit ended with no agreement on the issue. Instead a committee was constituted to study the topic for future deliberation.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:48 am | #

Everyone sees Eddie as a great guitar player, but that aint true.
Eddie is a great song writer,
And that is what seperates him from the pack.............
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:47 am | #

Why do they want us all in the concentration camps???????

Because all of the very top elites want to live in one of these and the land is just no longer available...

http://static.iftk.com.br/mt/ 200..._pics.html#more
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:47 am | #

And when I said Best,
I meant Sane and Ron and the rest of you bastards who still maintain the balls to post here.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:45 am | #

Cleric, Hundreds of Students Flee Pakistani Mosque
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...7070400159.html
Cleric, Hundreds of Students Flee Pakistani Mosque Authorities Find Mosque Leader Disguised in Burqa
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:45 am | #

'Terror suspects' lead police to cannabis factory
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle2025720.ece
Two Asian men arrested under the Terrorism Act yesterday after reports that they were taking delivery of ten propane gas canisters were today being questioned about growing cannabis plants. Officers found a “very sophisticated and well looked after” cannabis operation although there were not many plants there as they had already been harvested.
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Thank god for that terrorist act, otherwise we might not have found this weapon of mass elation
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:44 am | #

EVH is also one of my best friends. No matter what others say. Eddie rocks.
Fuck the NWO.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:43 am | #

Bush Crimes That Will Get Him Impeached, Tried, Removed and Tried Again
http://www.opednews.com/ articles...es_that_wil.htm
Watergate leftovers in the Bush administration learned all the wrong lessons. Dick Cheney, for example, learned how to stonewall, lie and obstruct justice. Outright treason he left to underlings who would take the fall for him. More ominously, however, these "leftovers" learned how to pull off a coup d'etat.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:43 am | #

Jus talkin smack boys. But I am ready and willing to fight. Just trying to enjoy 4th. But how could I really enjoy it without the counsel of my best friends? - GAK
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:40 am | #

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I agree that we are blessed by the community that is this forum......
With that I must retire.
Best of 4th wishes to you all.
Peace
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 2:43 am | #

Impeachment Is the Only Salve to This Constitutional Crisis
http://michel.evanchik.net/2007/...ation-of-libby/
With the commutation of the prison sentence of Irv Lewis Libby, President George Walker Bush has sent the country into a constitutional crisis, a final symptom of a Presidency arrogant of power and disdainful of democratic rule and republican government, can only be a assuaged by formal trials of impeachment.

Zogby Poll in 2005!: 53% of Americans Support Impeachment; ImpeachPAC Announced!
http://www.impeachpac.org/?q=node/6
Anyone remember this from November 2005 article "If President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:42 am | #

Printing press info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Joh...annes_Gutenberg

"New" project.....check it out:
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 2:40 am | #

Article 3 ~ Article of Impeachment for Nixon 33 Years Ago - Sound Familiar?
http://politicalchase.com/2007/0...007/07/01/2418/
Richard M. Nixon, contrary to his oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States... has failed without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers & things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas... In refusing to produce these papers & things Richard Nixon, substituting his judgment as to what materials were necessary for...
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:40 am | #

And so David is excused from fighting evil, and I am not?
Hmmm. Better run that one through my congress..........
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:26 am | #
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Who said anything about not fighting????

We all must fight for our rights.

You are just using their weapons to fight on their terms.

Luke's camera is David slingshot...why can't we buy more slingshots and tacyically fire the rocks [youtube videos] at the goliaths [MSM, MIC, Pharma, etc.]?

Yes GAK fight!

But like our forefathers, not with their tactics, not with their strategies...with ours! They needed to defend printing presses [I think that was invented by then ? you get the idea]. We all have a worldwide printing press in our basement, WTF????? god has given us all we need most importantly the human spirit that no weapon can defeat!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:36 am | #

If I stand in judgement of you Ron, I will let you slide, lock stock and barrel.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:33 am | #

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That is mighty Christian of your Gabriel.
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 2:36 am | #

Do they think these quotes will have us support 100,000 more dead innocent chilren in Iraq and Afghanistan?
"I flew at him a few times in the face but he wouldn't go down. "It was like he was on drugs.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:30 am | #

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I think before the elections they were going into Iran....I think there might still be a chance of influencing things through the public opinion.....the current congress is going to need to be changed if we have any hope.....again I have lost much of my hope but there are small cracks in the mortar.....
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 2:35 am | #

If I stand in judgement of you Ron, I will let you slide, lock stock and barrel.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:33 am | #

Maybe, just Keanu Reaves. Non violent stuff. Where did everyone else go?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:31 am | #

HERO CABBIE: KICKED BURNING TERRORIST SO HARD IN BALLS THAT he TORE TENDON
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/new...- name_page.html
HERO CABBIE: I KICKED BURNING TERRORIST SO HARD IN BALLS THAT I TORE A TENDON

"I just went for the terrorist. It was basic instinct.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/new...- name_page.html
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Who writes these quotes???

Do they think these quotes will have us support 100,000 more dead innocent chilren in Iraq and Afghanistan?
"I flew at him a few times in the face but he wouldn't go down. "It was like he was on drugs.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:30 am | #

And so David is excused from fighting evil, and I am not?
Hmmm. Better run that one through my congress..........
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:26 am | #

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No shit here Gabriel, you must do what you think is right. I will not stand in judgement of you! If you are doing what you think truly needs doing then how can it be wrong? We all walk alone brother!
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 2:30 am | #

I feel the lions claws. Sup, white niggas?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:29 am | #

Damn Ron when you shed the defeatest veil, you are one poerful mofo!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:24 am | #

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;-P I am still pretty damn down, but what good is it doing? I need to do what is before me and let the rest happen as it will. I appreciate both the subtle "get out of your own shit" in hte post ont he other page and the recognition that i am out of it and moving forward.
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 2:28 am | #

And so David is excused from fighting evil, and I am not?
Hmmm. Better run that one through my congress..........
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:26 am | #

I am ready to make calls. Cause nobody else will. This shit is over. I go alone.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:24 am | #

And what did David do when those same people surrounded him to kill him in his time of trouble?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:13 am | #

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He made the best choice he could based upon hte current situation and the information that he had available. He made the right choice.......
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 2:15 am | #
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Damn Ron when you shed the defeatest veil, you are one poerful mofo!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:24 am | #

Ron. Uh, yeah. Some things are easy to disseminate.
So David made some calls huh? Like it.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:22 am | #

I guess this is the case:
I do not have patience like Job.
I am not feeling like i should currently fuck with Goliath.
I am not wise or chosen like Moses.
I do not have the faith or the fortitude of Abraham.
And damn it I would have turned around and looked back.
I just am not a perfect person...and i do not mean perfect like Jesus....I mean I aint even fucking close. Therefore, I leave most of the decisions to God and then I do my best to work my part.....that might mean carrying a gun again...it might not. I think God talks to me through others so keep talkin' Bro........
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 2:22 am | #

Who wrote Braveheart? Was it maybe, Randall Wallace?
You are not a coward.
I can tell that by your responses.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:06 am | #
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Aww fuck it, guess I'll share some shit...

Ever since I was 9 years old I demanded proof before declaring anyone guilty. I have no idea why. It always made me a bit odd, but I truly could not train myself to see it any other way.

One time I got it pretty good from authority to the point of understanding what it means to be beaten into submission.

This left me quite confused and an end of innocence so to speak. Family, friens, etc. just wanted me to drop the entire thing and no one talked about it...worldwide conspiracy for my world at the time.

But, I never could "adjust" fully and would always keep in mind the strings that controlled puppets all over. I studied vigorously about money, wars, riots, flash mobs, passive resistance, pavlovian theory, liberterian philosphy, economics of war c. peace, collective action, combinatorics, set theory, neural networks, AI, mind control, buddhism, taoism, Lao Tzu, mass communications, etc.

I was also solely drawn to the arts that depicted these things [movies, songs, paintings, etc.]. Paintings of bowls of fruit never really moved me.

Do not really want to get into my current family, children, etc, but do want to talk about what happened about 2 years ago. After hearing Ann Coulter talk about how the 911 wives should shut up and enjoy their money, I wanted to understand why....

Well after seeing their documentary, then Steven Jones, then Loose Change, then Alex, the Palast, the Tarpley, et al....now here I am
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:21 am | #

Did David ever pray for his enemies in the psalms?
Bet he did. check it out.
And what did David do when those same people surrounded him to kill him in his time of trouble?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:13 am | #

Dude, keep it up.

Your children are lucky!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:04 am | #

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That is a compliment beyond all others, thank you! I hope they feel the same way when they are adults.
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 2:10 am | #

Ron and Sane are my friends. But you don't see it all yet. Let's get down to it tonight.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:10 am | #

Who does the Bible supports?

strike thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also the other:
RESISTANCE UK | 07.05.07 - 1:58 am | #

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I think that in certain verses one can find support for the notion that Jesus wanted us to take action (money changers out of the Temple by force and with prejudice) but over all it was a let go and let God philosophy. Old testament obviously has some severe stuff goin' on....the holy books are complex and multifacted...I was amazed how much the Bible had changed the second time I read it.....
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 2:08 am | #

And since the convo leads to this, I will now sacrifice my time, and prove beyond a doubt the Bible is real.
Bring forth the contenders.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:08 am | #

Who wrote Braveheart? Was it maybe, Randall Wallace?
You are not a coward.
I can tell that by your responses.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:06 am | #

Fear is the opposite of faith...
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:52 am | #
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Another brilliant and efficient piece of literary mastery.

Dude, keep it up.

Your children are lucky!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:04 am | #

Resistance UK. Don't see anything in there about the Law.
Just flimsy whimsications about Christ.
DOES GOD EVER CONTRADICT HIMSELF?
I think it is rather clear what to do with Satan worshipers and whoremongers.
Leviticus. Numbers. Deuteronomy.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 2:03 am | #

"I have come to claim the right of Prima Nocta".
Sane. Sometimes you have to fight, when your a man.- Kenny Rogers, Coward of the County

I love you bro. You are a good man. But it's Braveheart time, baby. Sad, but I will meet it with vigor.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:54 am | #
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Braceheart, WTF???

Wallace was used by the Scottish Rite to gain access to the crown.

Once the Scottish Rite [descendents of Knight's Templar and continuence of illuminati] had the crown, illuminati spread to America, Australia, India, etc.

Wallace should have taken a break and found out who the true enemy was, then we would not be this far behind today.

Nothing is more courageous than non-violent opposition.

It takes a man to be a non-violent warrior.

Who was more courageous, Hitler who shot his brains out as he was too ashamed to be caught alive as others died on his false promises or Gandhi who died in battle after many victories.

Was MLK a coward? FBI showed him pictures of him with his mistress and told him to commit suicide or be hung by the media.

He told them to go fuck themselves and kept preaching jesus' words.

Who the fuck are you calling a coward???

John Lennon who knew they were going to kill him?

Dan Wallace who knew they were after him?

Hunter S. Thomson?

WELLSTONE? JFK? RFK?

Who the fuck are you calling a coward?
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 2:01 am | #

Ron. I have higher powers protecting me, whom I consult. Even if they went against me, I would tell them to stick it.
No deal. I like you. You are the real deal. God has told me I will live for quite awhile. Not sweating it. It is my job to help others, and speak truth, and support others who do so,
like Sane. And You.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:59 am | #

Who does the Bible supports?

Gabriel:
Matthew 21:33

33 Hear ye another parable. There was a man an householder, who planted a vineyard, and made a hedge round about it, and dug in it a press, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen; and went into a strange country.
34 And when the time of the fruits drew nigh, he sent his servants to the husbandmen that they might receive the fruits thereof.
35 And the husbandmen laying hands on his servants, beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36 Again he sent other servants more than the former; and they did to them in like manner.
37 And last of all he sent to them his son, saying: They will reverence my son.
38 But the husbandmen seeing the son, said among themselves: This is the heir: come, let us kill him, and we shall have his inheritance.
39 And taking him, they cast him forth out of the vineyard, and killed him.
40 When therefore the lord of the vineyard shall come, what will he do to those husbandmen?
41 They say to him: He will bring those evil men to an evil end; and will let out his vineyard to other husbandmen, that shall render him the fruit in due season.

Ron:
Matthew 5:3 8-39
38 You have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.
39 But I say to you not to resist evil: but if one strike thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also the other:
RESISTANCE UK | 07.05.07 - 1:58 am | #

"One of These Nights"- The Eagles
Yes, fear is not akin to faith. But we understand both.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:55 am | #

I respect all you men. You are truly the salt of the earth. I mean that.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:49 am | #

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Likewise Gabriel. I always enjoy your posts, even when I disagree....however, posting your name and what could be seen as threats does worry me. i do worry about your saftey...a scope and a single shot.....that is one less "good man" we have on our side.
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:55 am | #

A Blueprint For World Dictatorship - Mike Ruppert
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63708/...ip-Mike- Ruppert

Mike Ruppert 911 and Peak Oil
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63740/...1-and-Peak-Oil-
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:54 am | #

I am never RIGHT

I am very ofter WRONG

And I am always learning
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:46 am | #

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I have found few flaws in your logic or your posts....thanks for the humility but do not overly humble yourself Sane. You are a force and I think you know it. But i will feel free to question, thanks. And thank you for your post regarding Killing out of fear.....I truly feel that is why we kill. Fear is the opposite of faith...
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:52 am | #

Just enjoying "The Eagles". Nice.
Miss it.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:51 am | #

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law......."- Jesus
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Cmon GAK, is that it????

That is all you got.

I am not here to change the law, so I want you to do god's job of carrying out the law??????
WTF-c'mon GAK.

The only stuff in the old testament dictated for man to carry out was dictated to holy men-of which we have NONE!

Therefore it is only god who is now allowed to do these deeds and man is to be peaceful as jesus said over 1,000 times, not just a possible inference to a possible task possibly befalling on people who no longer exist.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:50 am | #

Fear. Sometimes I forget to be afraid. Whoops.
Fellas. You will join me today, or tomorrow. Don't matter. We fight the same enemy. You are good men. And It has been a privelege knowing you, and speaking with you.
I respect all you men. You are truly the salt of the earth. I mean that.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:49 am | #

It is beyond a Dali painting.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:40 am | #

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Check out Max Ernst
http://www.artchive.com/artchive.../ ernst_ext.html
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:48 am | #

Case closed, they got the letter, just like Atta's passport.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:34 am | #

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Not to pick but the passport they found that came throught ht eflames was not Atta's but rather the "passport of Satam Al Suqami".
http://www.rense.com/general68/m...l68/ moremir.htm
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:39 am | #
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Please always point out how human I am...

I am never RIGHT

I am very ofter WRONG

And I am always learning
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:46 am | #

Seasy to talk. Different to act.
The beast is licking his lips. See it yet?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:46 am | #

It is not fear that stops me from killing...if anything I kill out of fear....that is why I must be certain before I kill that it is out of need!
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:34 am | #

WOW!!!!

Holy shit Ron, I know you just typed some shit on a blog. But that fucking moved me big time.

Dude nothing captivates the issue more efficiently...

If anything, I kill out of fear.

Guys, let's stop killing each other out of the imagined fears we are le to believe!

WOW!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:45 am | #

I do not wish to make you angry Ron, but I am a fucking volcano.
I hate the NWO. I want to fight it now. The element of surprise if still with us.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:36 am | #

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You are not making me angry Gabriel. Besides compared to the depression, anger is good it is more activating! Finally, If I get angry I own that! I understand your feelings, I just disagree. I will follow my heart and do what i thinkis right when I am putin the position that I must decide. I am prepared; therfore, I can decide based upon options other than submission. I wishit were different but it is what it is....I can only do my part and the rest is God's.
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:44 am | #

Resistance UK.
Created by men? Are you totally sure?
Think you should chill and study all things.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:41 am | #

hey sane, ya need a good proxy server app so youre IP# is different every time they ban ya, pick a different proxy # and spank em again lol..
I got a bunch of em "other places"
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 1:29 am | #
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C'mon...I got 5 different connections going through various OS's using virtual machines and tons of proxies.

I am running stats on how quickly/slowly they ban me.

I then look at the posts afterwords saying stuff like "where did he go?"

it is hilarious because the ones running the censoring are paid off by the top candidates, but they use excuses like "off topic" on OPEN THREADS. Slowly the regular thread crowd is noticing something is odd because the thread topic has to do with a controversial issue. Then the only posts allowed are personal BS like

"hey what's up"

"Just taking care of my brother's cat today"

"I just got a cool iPhone"

It is beyond a Dali painting.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:40 am | #

And I said it before, and I say it now.
I will happily lead an assault upon the Bohemian Grove,
If only one man will stand with me.
635 n12th st Apt#12
Spearfish SD 57783
Phone # 605-645-8705
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:39 am | #

HEY GUYS FORGET THAT MAYAN OR EGYPTIAN OR WHATEVER CRAP CALENDARS.

ONLY GOD KNOWS!

By the way calendars were created by men and are not absolute, besides of being ALL WRONG.

One simple question:
how could a Mayan calendar point 2013 if they didn't even know when Jesus was born?
More, and these are the really interesting ones:
NOBODY KNOWS!
but we know that the monk that came up with the idea mad a mistake.

SO are we in 2007?
Scholars say we aren't!
In fact, NOBODY KNOWS!
Except God, obviously...

So forget those pseudo-prophecies.
Just focus on doing God's will and the Endetimes become irrelevant.
RESISTANCE UK | 07.05.07 - 1:37 am | #

I do not wish to make you angry Ron, but I am a fucking volcano.
I hate the NWO. I want to fight it now. The element of surprise if still with us.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:36 am | #

Ron Paul Excluded AGAIN!
http://blog.ronpaul2008.com/ron_...ge-from- ro.html
Rick Beltram, the chair of the Spartanburg County, SC GOP Committee, has stated that his committee will give support and equal time to every Republican candidate who campaigns in the county, except for Ron Paul. He says Dr. Paul is not welcome in Spartanburg County. You know what to do!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:35 am | #

As you requested, a fuckin again,
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law......."- Jesus

So what again, is the LAW?
Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. Sorry to require your participation in the dispensation of justice and right government.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:30 am | #

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I know that was at Sane, but I feel the need:
It is not fear that stops me from killing...if anything I kill out of fear....that is why I must be certain before I kill that it is out of need!
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:34 am | #

Suicide Glasgow note found by UK Coppers
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORL...ml? eref=edition
The letter describes motives and grievances before the attack at Glasgow airport in Scotland on Saturday when a burning car was crashed, according to the sources close to the investigation. Police also say they believe the men -- identified as doctors Khalid Ahmed and Bilal Abdulla -- were behind two car bombing attempts in London a day earlier,
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Case closed, they got the letter, just like Atta's passport.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:34 am | #

"There will be a point of critical mass, but it is not now."
Humh. Ill bet the dickheads who let the Fed reserve act stand said the same exact thing.
So when is the time?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:33 am | #

hey sane, ya need a good proxy server app so youre IP# is different every time they ban ya, pick a different proxy # and spank em again lol..
I got a bunch of em "other places"
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 1:29 am | #

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You go Sees Things! I like that attitude! Fuck 'em all.....then do it again. (never seen ya cus hope it is not too offensive)
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:32 am | #

Sane.
I have said enough here to be understood by now.
So there is never an excuse for violence?
BULLSHIT.
The Bible is a call to ACTION.
Not passivity.
I don't care who is scared. Sorry to piss on your picnic. This is real life.

As you requested, a fuckin again,
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law......."- Jesus

So what again, is the LAW?
Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. Sorry to require your participation in the dispensation of justice and right government.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:30 am | #

Ron. Your stance against violence moves me. But are you benefiting from the beast?
Violence? Secret societies own us.
Um, I didnt agree to that.
So I think I call bullshit.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:13 am | #

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I do not have a binary choice here....I think the world works on a fractal multivalent math not a binary logic.....there will be a point of critical mass but it is not now.....context/Zeitgeist will be a critical factor in decisingthe tipping point. If they try to round up people en mass it is over the war will begin with or without me...cause I assume I am on the A-list of folks they are picking up.
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:30 am | #

I have been banned from every mainstream site.

I have had family members spit on me.

I have had the phone disconnected many times.

I have at least 3 traces on every electronic action I take [hi guys ]

But I know about the trains, and I know about the camps.

So I don't care about being spit on, or being banned, or some transcripts and digital media files of me that will be stored for 100 years.

Because you see we are either going to be sheep or we are going to be patriots.

I do not see how this is hard to understand.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:13 am | #

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hey sane, ya need a good proxy server app so youre IP# is different every time they ban ya, pick a different proxy # and spank em again lol..
I got a bunch of em "other places"
Sees Things | 07.05.07 - 1:29 am | #

Cable Operators to Hike Set-Top Box Rates
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/ sto...EMPLATE=DEFAULT
Cable companies are planning to charge more for set-top boxes to help pay for new, more expensive versions mandated by the Federal Communications Commission.
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Great more reasons to dump MSM!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:28 am | #

Keith Olbermann's transcript of the speech that everyone should hear/read
http://thenewshole.msnbc.msn.com.../03/ 256978.aspx
For those that can't hear, here is the transcript.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:26 am | #

AMEN SANE!
RESISTANCE UK | 07.05.07 - 1:24 am | #

New book says Kissinger kept Nixon in the dark
http://www.reuters.com/article/t...02? feedType=RSS
Newly released documents show that former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger delayed telling President Richard Nixon about the start of the Yom Kippur War in 1973 to keep him from interfering, according to new book excerpted in Vanity Fair on Monday.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:22 am | #

"Nothing is solved by war".
OK. Then why does Christ make war with the Beast upon his return?
And how did we secure this land in the first place?
I think everything is ultimately solved by war.

Resistance UK. Sometimes the system is weird. Don't take it personal. Keep posting. I like your style. And even if I didn't, who am I?
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:09 am | #
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What the fuck GAK - when the fuck did jesus say anything about killing?

What the fuck are you talking about?

Jesus saw that they plan on having us kill each other as we are split into different factions with one faction claiming they know who shouls live and who should die, while the other says the same thing.

The end result is that the leader of both factions are partners to kill us.

That is why jesus died for our sins to show us that this who shall live and who shall die suff was fucking Bullshit and not allowed by men.

only god can declare this and he does it on his own without our fucking help.

so anyone saying that they got the fucking list is breaking the first two commandments, no man has the list-it is gods.

That post is for all the non-athiests here

for the rest who are into the 2012 nonsense, see zeitgeist - it is a huge con, and you are the ones getting right in the butt as you run scared doing irrational thing to prepare for the world spliting in 2.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...481422995115331
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:21 am | #

Shit, every person knowledgable of politics watches C-SPAN.

AEI has been running call campaigns for years, that is how they are making many who watch C-SPAN think that the country really loves Bush.

It is BS, those people are relatives of AEI "scholsrs"

Just fucking call for like an hour a week, believe me people all over who are influential in this country watch C-SPAN.

Just ask a small poiniant question like:

Why do we have 800 concentration camps and couldn't that money go to Katrina victims?

or

Why are we funding Al-Qaeda in Tripoli

or

Why did Cheney forge the Niger document

...

You get the drift.

Bring the battle to them!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:08 am | #

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I pray you are correct!
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:19 am | #

May I suggest you guys to write posts on mainstream faux-news websites like me?

Our goal should be to call more to our side.

To speak amonst ourselves might be emotionally rewarding but useless for the cause.

We need to find the lost sheep!

Luke 15:1-7

1 Now the publicans and sinners drew near unto him to hear him.
2 And the Pharisees and the scribes murmured, saying: This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.
3 And he spoke to them this parable, saying:
4 What man of you that hath an hundred sheep: and if he shall lose one of them, doth he not leave the ninety-nine in the desert, and go after that which was lost, until he find it?
5 And when he hath found it, lay it upon his shoulders, rejoicing:
6 And coming home, call together his friends and neighbours, saying to them: Rejoice with me, because I have found my sheep that was lost?
7 I say to you, that even so there shall be joy in heaven upon one sinner that doth penance, more than upon ninety-nine just who need not penance.

http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=...ch=15&l=4& f=s#x
RESISTANCE UK | 07.05.07 - 1:17 am | #

Sane may be a book worm, and a geek.
But I have that funny feeling that he would stand up hard like a man with his six shooter against the cabal of bastards.
He is much like that guy in "The Untouchables" who kept trying to get Capone on tax evasion.
And he ended up being the bravest little fucker in the whole deal.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:15 am | #

I go to main stream internet news sites to write about it!
Obviously I'm visciously attacked but...
Once in a while a soul is saved!
RESISTANCE UK | 07.05.07 - 1:04 am | #
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I have been banned from every mainstream site.

I have had family members spit on me.

I have had the phone disconnected many times.

I have at least 3 traces on every electronic action I take [hi guys ]

But I know about the trains, and I know about the camps.

So I don't care about being spit on, or being banned, or some transcripts and digital media files of me that will be stored for 100 years.

Because you see we are either going to be sheep or we are going to be patriots.

I do not see how this is hard to understand.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:13 am | #

You get the drift.

Bring the battle to them!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:08 am | #
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Thank you sane,
Maybe you are sane.
This is an information war!!
Wake this country up, and they are fucked!!!
Anonymous | 07.05.07 - 1:11 am | #

I think they own all the MEDIA in our country, I donot thik they need to do much more ot control the message....look athe post that you quoted below....Why is it that no one but us is fucking screaming for Bsuh and Cheney to be put before a firing squad? I think it would be best if we sue them their families and the corporations involved in civil court.....let's ahve a class-action take all their fucking money.
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 12:57 am | #
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They underestimate us. They think they control the message with MSM, but the message has circumvented MSM and every time they pull a Libby...the message gets louder.

That is why we need to find out where they are running stories and get into interviews.

AT THE VERY LEAST CALL C-SPAN!!!

Shit, every person knowledgable of politics watches C-SPAN.

AEI has been running call campaigns for years, that is how they are making many who watch C-SPAN think that the country really loves Bush.

It is BS, those people are relatives of AEI "scholsrs"

Just fucking call for like an hour a week, believe me people all over who are influential in this country watch C-SPAN.

Just ask a small poiniant question like:

Why do we have 800 concentration camps and couldn't that money go to Katrina victims?

or

Why are we funding Al-Qaeda in Tripoli

or

Why did Cheney forge the Niger document

...

You get the drift.

Bring the battle to them!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:08 am | #

We must work on waking up other people.
We Must Do This!
That is the key.
Anonymous | 07.05.07 - 1:07 am | #

Once in a while a soul is saved!
RESISTANCE UK | 07.05.07 - 1:04 am | #

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Amen. That is the only hope! Killing is not hope...let us hope it is not necessary.
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:07 am | #

I am familiar with the fine works of Mr. Tsarion. I like him. He is an honest man. You must realize that the Mayan and other calenders including the Egyptian are pointing to
2013
13. The devils number. When in Revalations does the Beast first appear? Hmm. 13?
We are fucked.
This is it people. Time to see what your really made of.
Just put in the Eagles. Greatest hits, 1.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 1:05 am | #

Amazing!
I spent 5 or more minutes to post and as soon as I sweared...
It did!

F$$$ the NWO!
RESISTANCE UK | 07.05.07 - 1:05 am | #

Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 12:58 am
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Rebellion in the streets will not work , YET.
People have not awaken enough, YET.
Anonymous | 07.05.07 - 1:01 am | #

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If it comes ot that many will die...nothing is really resoled by war...sometimes it becomes the only way...let's hope we can do it otherwise.
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:05 am | #

We need to stop passing slavery onto our children and then their children.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 12:49 am | #

So I pass the knowledge to those around me.

And...

I go to main stream internet news sites to write about it!
Obviously I'm visciously attacked but...
Once in a while a soul is saved!
RESISTANCE UK | 07.05.07 - 1:04 am | #

F%%% THIS INTERNET PAGE!

WHY CAN'T I POST?!

WITHOUT SWEAR?
RESISTANCE UK | 07.05.07 - 1:04 am | #

Everyone focused on those puppets are missing so much of the picture.

Shultz/Ruffett/Rockefeller/Rothschild - keep your eyes on the ball.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:00 am | #

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They have an amazing ability to hit the ball into the fucking sun again and again.......
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:02 am | #

in the hope of preventing the people from arriving at a natural state of awakening & knowing who they are & that they are being controlled.
Ron. | 07.05.07 - 12:56 am | #

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I think your are more optimistic than i. You're a half-glass-full kinda guy (that Bush speak) and at least for today my fucking glass is shattered....
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 1:01 am | #

Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 12:58 am
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Rebellion in the streets will not work , YET.
People have not awaken enough, YET.
Anonymous | 07.05.07 - 1:01 am | #

I want to know one thing from Ron Paul and other candidates, and that is, IF it is proven that Bush/Cheney were behind 9-11, will ANY of candidates, including Ron, pardon them for 9-11? Muckraker did an interview of Ron Paul and he sounded maybe yes to this question! WE MUST DEMAND ALL NOT PARDON THEM!
9-11 truther | 07.05.07 - 12:50 am | #
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The last thing we need to do is dictate demands to Ron Paul. He is fighting the battle up there and we need to be fighting the battle here.

I am confident the MSM will be grilling him on all sorts of crap. I don't give a rat's ass about Bush and Cheney if he kills the IRS and Fed Reserve. That is the key to our freedom.

Everyone focused on those puppets are missing so much of the picture.

Shultz/Ruffett/Rockefeller/Rothschild - keep your eyes on the ball.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 1:00 am | #

Ron, I respect you. And you know me a little. How long shall we sit idle while evil kills the innocent?
www.tedgunderson.com
google videos "John Decamp" conspiracy of silence.
Cathy O'Brien
The Frankilin Cover Up.
I have many more.
The blood of the children is on our hands, until we stand up.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 12:58 am | #

Castro was a little smarter, he captured all the radio stations.

He then gave the first of his thousand 8 fucking hour speaches explaining that he had won.

Not a shot was fired and the student rebels surrendered.

THIS IS A FUCKING INFO-WAR!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 12:53 am | #

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I think they own all the MEDIA in our country, I donot thik they need to do much more ot control the message....look athe post that you quoted below....Why is it that no one but us is fucking screaming for Bsuh and Cheney to be put before a firing squad? I think it would be best if we sue them their families and the corporations involved in civil court.....let's ahve a class-action take all their fucking money.
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 12:57 am | #

Cuba, new years eve 1959...

Many rebellion forces took over the country.
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That was fucking Island in the 50's sane.
Times have changed.
And the Banker Bastards couldn't even take it from Castro.
Anonymous | 07.05.07 - 12:57 am | #

There are some people here who are expressing pessimism about our chances of turning the tide. I would just like to point out the research of people like Michael Tsarion who has noted that there are cycles to the Universe & that one of them will lead to a more fully awakened population.

He has asserted that this awakening is likely to occur around the time when the sun rises aligned with the galactic center on December 21 2012: the date when the Mayan calender ends.

There does indeed appear to be the beginning of a mass awakening going on that is discernible. I also think that this is why the Global elite are pushing for their New World Order at this point in time as they know there is a Universal cycle of mass awakening about to occur. This is probably the main reason for the Chemtrails & the push for a Global Police State since if the people are awakened before they can enact it then all of their plans & control would come to an end. This purported Universal cycle of mass awakening (or re-awakening) is good news -if it pans out- & means that it looks like the controllers will not forever be able to oppress us. The elite are working hard to build harsher control mechanisms (ie: the microchip / the panopticon global state) in the hope of preventing the people from arriving at a natural state of awakening & knowing who they are & that they are being controlled.
Ron. | 07.05.07 - 12:56 am | #

They can torture me, they can imprison me, they can even kill me, but then they will have my dead body...

BUT THEY WILL NEVER HAVE MY OBEDIENCE!

-Gandhi who freed India without firing one bullet
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 12:55 am | #

We need to stop passing slavery onto our children and then their children.
sane | Homepage | 07.05.07 - 12:49 am | #

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I very solemnly agree!
Ron in LA | 07.05.07 - 12:53 am | #

911 Truther. I almost jumped off my chair in a rage.
IF IT IS PROVEN?
Um, OK. It has already been proven- In my court of opinion.
Gabriel A King | 07.05.07 - 12:53 am | #

Concerning taking over the media:

Cuba, new years eve 1959...

Many rebellion forces took over the country.

A group of