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katrina Says:
July 7th, 2007 at 11:21 pm

LoL some nutty global warming denier gets totally pwned by Mayor Rothchild that gave up important pre-concert time - his family is sopnsoring the entire event, sacrificing hundreds of millions on promoting the event so that the Earth can be saved

http://prisonplanet.com/audio/ 06...7rothschild.mp3

Those deniers need to wake up and take care of the children!
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sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 11:39 pm | #
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Sees Things - how else would the environmental mind control pawns bring themselves to listen to the truth.

Watch http://voxfux.com to see the stategies he learned brom bryzensfuck.
sane | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 2:34 pm | #

I would think San francisco would be the attack that will be the most effective. There is a high concentration of protestors and they will most assurdly tell us how god hates queers and that Jee whiz who would have ever thought a enemy combatant could possibly penetrate the good ole USA.
Rush to War | 07.11.07 - 4:34 pm | #

Senior Military, Intelligence, and Government
Officials Question 9/11 Commission Report
http://www.wanttoknow.info/ offic...ommissionreport
jbrid1138 | 07.10.07 - 6:41 am | #

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Thanks for that jbrid! It gives me hope that we might see a reassesment of the facts...we cannot let the basturds (yes I mean turds) keep lying about what they have done....9/11 should be opened along other instances of crimes against the USA carried out by US operatives....I am getting crazier by the day...where is my tinfoil? I cannot accept this is the America I was taught about....THIS IS NOT AMERICA it is a sham!
Ron in LA | 07.11.07 - 5:04 am | #

it may be that, am more afraid the time for the voting games are overwith, personally. bush/cheney chomping at the bit for martial law.. is why I'd rather see the good ones in military take care of this situation immediately, which would also mean taking over the media and explaining the reality of why, 24/7, for weeks.
that apple cart overturned long ago and the maggots have destroyed the goods.. if we DO get a chance to vote, it'd be Ron Paul here too.

-I'd want to see the mega exploitative corporations slapped down along the way too. theres big differences between being successful in business and monopoly rape. of course to THEM I'm an anarchist and terrorist.. OOPS!!
Sees Things | 07.10.07 - 9:37 am | #

Careful what you ask for. I fear that a military coup of any sort will not result in a favorble redistribution of wealth nor power...if we can do it without the military getting into to it we are better off. I donot know what your experienceof the military is but mine is not good. There is a major corruption in the Armed forces of the USA; many of the good folks were forced into retirement during Clinton/GOre and it happened again and again duringthis adminsitration...the military is in seriously bad shape. Iremember the Navy that my grandfother spoke of and the Air Corp my Grandfather-in-law spoke of....even the Army of my brother's experience (during GUlf war I)...my experience with the Airforce proved to me all the rules had changed.........the honorable folk are pushed down or out of the military and the rats are promoted below the zone. It is a tough job to be in the military and i respect that...I just hate what has been done to the Armed forces!!!!!!! What a rmbling rant, sorry.
Ron in LA | 07.11.07 - 4:57 am | #

15 years worth of DC madam's phone records available online:

http://rawstory.com

download them locally and cross reference them with the most powerful people in Washington.

fun fun fun
Anonymous | 07.10.07 - 10:51 am | #

"An interesting comment,
a freind of mine sees a psychic........
said that the psychic predicted some big catastrophe in the next 2 months......."

had that same "vision" and was expecting it to happen 2003, but it was pushed back, a reprieve, for 5 years. the "dread vision" been with me since I was a teenager.. like 25+ years ago..

the false flag literally could be any day now, but like alex jones last year, I would expect it more in the fall with the onset of winter, logically strategically, better time to cut all services and more cripple us for the damn fema camps. the cold, the food, etc. this why I have 3-4 months worth of food (and growing), and some 150 gallons of water stored.. and wont stop thinking like this.
Sees Things | 07.10.07 - 10:45 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...707_a_moore.htm

I'm starting to like michael moore more nowadays
(with exception to the global warming position)
Sees Things | 07.10.07 - 10:34 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...0707_a_bill.htm

only proves again pelosi is not interested in looking out for the people. another to impeach.
Sees Things | 07.10.07 - 10:07 am | #

Perhaps he is smart enough to realize that laying it all out on the table like that might otherwise jeopardize certain votes. There's definitely a lot of nut cases here across our land, and not all of them are presently elected officials. Many are still blind, still asleep when it comes to 9/11 and the war. Hell, many still think Iraq is still hiding all those WMD from us. Some real idiots out there and perhaps Ron Paul is trying to not upset the apple cart too awfully much. I mean, again, he's surely not like any of the other candidates -- and for that alone, I will give him my vote.

I am hoping on top of all hope that once in office, Ron Paul will 'drop kick' all those complicit treasonist guilty bastards into jail cells, do that and more.

Have a nice day.
jbrid1138 | 07.10.07 - 8:13 am | #

it may be that, am more afraid the time for the voting games are overwith, personally. bush/cheney chomping at the bit for martial law.. is why I'd rather see the good ones in military take care of this situation immediately, which would also mean taking over the media and explaining the reality of why, 24/7, for weeks.
that apple cart overturned long ago and the maggots have destroyed the goods.. if we DO get a chance to vote, it'd be Ron Paul here too.

-I'd want to see the mega exploitative corporations slapped down along the way too. theres big differences between being successful in business and monopoly rape. of course to THEM I'm an anarchist and terrorist.. OOPS!!
Sees Things | 07.10.07 - 9:37 am | #

i see a dark future...the time of trubbles.
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 11:13 pm | #

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I am very curious, I can tell by your mispellings and tainted grammer, you are a foreigner, which is fine, you are welcome here.
I am just wondering where you are?
You have some good thoughts and I see wisdom in your words.
Michael D. | 07.10.07 - 9:30 am | #

http://www.sierratimes.com/archi.../ edcc080900.htm
Let's try that again........
the last link was not the one I was after........(although it is a good one)
It is a bout the main character of the book "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross...
Henry Bowman is the main character of a revolt that puts and end to the the tyranical bullshit of the batf and the gubmint in general......a must read.
Michael D. | 07.10.07 - 9:25 am | #

I don't often post links but ask that everyone look at this one........
http://www.sierratimes.com/
It is to do with the main character that acts in a way that puts an END to all this gubmint bullshit
Michael D. | 07.10.07 - 9:20 am | #

Sorry, you're stuck with me.
Those were some one elses words.
Guess you didn't read the posts below.........
Michael D. | 07.10.07 - 12:46 am | #
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I see your point. That is why I copy/paste when I reply to a post as maintains continuity in the thread. My apologies, Sir.
FinalChanceInTexas | 07.10.07 - 1:43 am | #

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Apology not necessary. I would like to talk to you.
My e-mail is sylvstrmchl@yahoo.com
Anyone that would like some of my dvd compilations give me an address also.......
Doing a mailing to freinds in the next couple days....
Michael D. | 07.10.07 - 8:42 am | #

I really shouldn't be posting back to back like this (Sane comes to mind) -- but these things regarding RON PAUL need to be clearly understood by everyone:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/
RON PAUL -- HOPE FOR AMERICA

Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
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My thoughts:
With a record like his WHO ELSE (??) should be our next President? Some sound as if we should just give up and allow the treasonist bastards to continue to run (ruin) our fine country.

When a person's hands get dirty // it's time to wash them. We need a good cleaning here in the USA // it's time to wash up by electing Ron Paul in 2008.
jbrid1138 | 07.10.07 - 8:23 am | #

To SEE THINGS -- Not confusing you today. Smile.

I agree with you, you've got damn good points there. Some of which have actually been bouncing around in my head of concern also.

I feel that Ron Paul is the best of what is available. Actually, that made him sound too much like he is cut from the same tin-plate -- which I don't think he truly is. I believe he is honest and cares for this land we ALL love and know has taken a wrong direction because of its corrupt and greedy leaders.

I intend to vote for Ron Paul because he is the best choice with a 'possible' favorable outcome.

Of course there is still the BIG chance of him being killed by the evil. There is a BIG chance of him not being given the office even if he is elected. That last sentence has a sour ring to it doesn't it. All possible. And if and when he is elected he might turn completely opposite of what his honest and long record indicates -- but I truly doubt that he would change from all his attributes that we have come to know him by.

Look, he's got to be better than Guiliani, Romey, McCain -- or -- Clinton. I would hope you can agree with that.

My concern is also that he hasn't come across as strongly as I would like to see regarding 9/11 being an inside job and the many lies that took us to war. That does bother me. And I've tried to make sense out of why not, why he hasn't made those two very important matters his main platform. Perhaps he is smart enough to realize that laying it all out on the table like that might otherwise jeopardize certain votes. There's definitely a lot of nut cases here across our land, and not all of them are presently elected officials. Many are still blind, still asleep when it comes to 9/11 and the war. Hell, many still think Iraq is still hiding all those WMD from us. Some real idiots out there and perhaps Ron Paul is trying to not upset the apple cart too awfully much. I mean, again, he's surely not like any of the other candidates -- and for that alone, I will give him my vote.

I am hoping on top of all hope that once in office, Ron Paul will 'drop kick' all those complicit treasonist guilty bastards into jail cells, do that and more.

Have a nice day.
jbrid1138 | 07.10.07 - 8:13 am | #

This needs to come full circle, to an end. 9/11 was an inside job // We need a new investigation that will document and record history honestly in this regard. We need the United States back again.
jbrid1138 | 07.10.07 - 6:24 am | #

not knocking what you're saying, the stuff needs to stop, corporatocracy = fascism and its headed straight into naziland. what I have a bit of an issue with is dr. Ron Paul. a person dont do 10 terms in congress without knowing the good from the bad, if he's a man of action I dont understand the tiptoeing around 911 truth in his campaign, and with bush/cheney so traitorous and flipping all the switches for martial law, it amazes me ron paul hasnt contacted many GOOD military officials, police, and seen these bastards hauled off in chains. I know it sounds impatient or radical, but I honestly have this little faith in the people in power. all of congress hasnt done squat to oust these creatures, theyre all too busy playing parliamentary proceedure games when they oughtta be using handcuffs. cant have representation when they are all corrupt covering each others asses and bought off. I dont think "we the people" here on line actually know more than the "representatives" do, more like they play stupid to deny it all, alberto gonzales and oliver north are prime examples. "I cant recall" well WE CAN.. youre outta there!! theyed never plead the 5th amendment because it implies guilt on their part, they just play dumb instead. all the state "governors" selling off roadways, schools, lotteries, services, jails, as if it were thier's personally to sell.. built by WE the PEOPLE. to be a politician nowadays means seeing how much treason you can get away with while lining youre own pockets. it needs to be stopped coldly, not song and dance parliamentary proceedures.
Sees Things | 07.10.07 - 7:58 am | #

Senior Military, Intelligence, and Government
Officials Question 9/11 Commission Report
http://www.wanttoknow.info/ offic...ommissionreport
jbrid1138 | 07.10.07 - 6:41 am | #

To CHRIS JONES --

Regarding one of your comments //

No I wasn't offended by anything you said. I understood where your mind was at, back then about the things you said, and now in addressing the concerns you have for the poor leadership in this country. Things have really gotten screwed up, that's for sure.

I'm with your way of thinking on most of what you said -- I also feel this country has been stolen, sold out to the highest bidder; and those that should know better -- simply don't, or don't care. Maybe both.

And maybe it's naive of me to think that this country can be taken back from the gangsters -- I truly continue to hope so -- and I suppose my military 'upbringing' turned that hope towards those general officers that spoke out about how poorly the war was being managed from the outset. GWB and his cronies (Rumsfeld) never paid one bit of attention to those proven soldiers that know better than anyone the mechanics and hardships of battle // GWB and his cronies just didn't listen to the advice they were getting -- I suppose it all comes back to lies // the generals were trying to make sense out of lies, and that doesn't always connect. They were going against the flow, the direction the bad guys intend to take this entire mess. That's why certain generals were singled out as 'wrong' while the true wrong continues to this very day.

If you don't like what your general on the field is saying -- simnply replace him (Bush tactic 101) // it's all so obvious.

I think that in the back of my mind, knowing that 9/11 and the war are all based upon one lie piled high upon another -- that others of standing and noted importance and training, those folks that truly have this wonderful country of ours at heart, might form together and step up to help all of us out of this mess. I mean if general officers can lead warriors like the 82d and 101st ABN and the 1st ID (plus others) then what would be keeping them from banding together to lead this country against the truly bad guys operating to destroy this country of ours. I am reminded --... against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC.

I know that sounds like mutiny or a revolution, but that might be what's truly needed.

So no one might think I've lost my mind, I am willing to give proper conduct its due // like for example: the election process coming up in 2008 -- as long as Ron Paul is elected our President and things start making sense again in this country of ours. But short of that, what I mean is if the election is stolen away from him (like it just might be when one considers the crooks that have their hooks sunk deep into our system already) if that doesn't change -- things will continue to be business as usual around here, i.e., corruption, greed, death and destruction.

This needs to come full circle, to an end. 9/11 was an inside job // We need a new investigation that will document and record history honestly in this regard. We need the United States back again.
jbrid1138 | 07.10.07 - 6:24 am | #

Australian Federal Police chief stutters "it is a new world order"

re:Australia police get more time to question doctor

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...stiondoctor.htm

During 3AW's leading morning drivetime radio talkback show...

Australian Federal Police chief declares we are living in "a new world order" that require special judicial considerations

Stuttering, Australian Federal Police Chief Mick Keelty states, “...it is a new world order in terms of investigating terrorist type offences.”

Chief Keelty tries to explain why Dr Haneef, in Queensland, suspected of links to UK failed fire bombings, is held for seven days in “dead time”, without charges or interviews. Under these ‘new world order terms’ Dr Haneef’s appointed lawyer Peter Russo says that he can be held indefinitely in ‘judicial arrest’.

Australian Federal Police (AFP) chief defends extra time
'We may request more time'
Mick Keelty has defended AFP investigators having an extra 48 hours to hold Gold Coast doctor Mohamed Haneef. Speaking to 3AW’s Neil Mitchell, Keelty said the AFP may apply for more time despite the ‘distinct possibility’ Dr Haneef will be released without charges being laid.
Paul7007 | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 5:54 am | #

If you're expecting modern muppet Brits. to get angry and take action over anything, well.......
The Bliar knew he could get away with murder here, and we would do absolutely nothing, nothing! Now, the Pig in the Wig will do the same. Typical Brit. saying for the new millenium, "Well, what can you do, you can't do anything about it" and then laugh at you for not just accepting all the c**p we get thrown at us.
By the way, nice timing, very tasteful. Alistair Campbell's cesspit diaries coming out just one week before the aniversary of Dr Kelly's highly suspicious death. How nice, how classy, how thoughtful, how f***ing typical, and the braindead fraggles will buy this garbage, watch this crap go to the top of the best-selling book list! and make him millions - nice one.
Oh yes, aren't the Fabians (new labour) looking after the flood victims well. Don't forget to vote for them again you soggy muppets.
bootroll | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 3:37 am | #
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Having worked with Brits for over 4 years I must say you are more correct than you stated. They, the common Brit are still "bruised" by the so-called Revolutionary War-----I know it for a fact. Great point and post, thanks, Sir.
FinalChanceInTexas | 07.10.07 - 3:44 am | #

I would suggest everyone follow this link and LISTEN.
New info regarding China, Japan and Russia. It is a Rense.com interview.
http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/ re...ford_070507.mp3
FinalChanceInTexas | 07.10.07 - 2:54 am | #

Of course no one knows what dictator Bush is gonna do but his inner circle and they ain't talking these people are specially picked because there fucking ruthless. Bush gets his shit from the lower level illumati controllers who come down from skull & bones branch there biggest trick is to let you think you know who the illuminati are rockefeller is the public face most likely just like the rothschilds I'm sure there someone above them If I was rockefeller I sure as fuck wouldn't run for senate and then let another relative blab to aaron russo about some big changes are gonna happen a year before 9/11 does this seem like some hardcore illumnati shit come on people this is all a fucking setup to get us up in arms and let there siuper fucking solders wipe us out. George Washinginton stated he had no problems with the illuminati which is understable he was a mason for fucks sakes oh then will give you crzay fucks the right to bear arms gotta love the second ammendment folks this has been a fucking setup since 1776 to use America as the the new Rome to take over the world capitoline capitol hill ancient roman designs its so obvioius.
blitzed421 | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 2:35 am | #

M: The smoking gun of NORAD stand down is enough proof and evidence to accuse NORAD for failing to deffend US
Juan Carlos Cruz | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 1:37 am | #
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It is Enough for me Juan!
FinalChanceInTexas | 07.10.07 - 1:39 am | #

M: The smoking gun of NORAD stand down is enough proof and evidence to accuse NORAD for failing to deffend US
Juan Carlos Cruz | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 1:37 am | #

Mike have a good trip, don't call us we'll call you!
FinalChanceInTexas | 07.10.07 - 12:37 am | #

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Sorry, you're stuck with me.
Those were some one elses words.
Guess you didn't read the posts below.........
Michael D. | 07.10.07 - 12:46 am | #

I'm seriously done hearing a lot this negative trash. Even if things were this bad, you make yourselves look like the crazy conspiracy theorists the world paints you to be, and they are probably right.

Great.
See ya.
Michael D. | 07.09.07 - 2:11 pm | #
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Mike have a good trip, don't call us we'll call you!
FinalChanceInTexas | 07.10.07 - 12:37 am | #

I'm seriously done hearing a lot this negative trash. Even if things were this bad, you make yourselves look like the crazy conspiracy theorists the world paints you to be, and they are probably right.

Great.
See ya.
Michael D. | 07.09.07 - 2:11 pm | #
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At first I thought you were the one saying that at the top. LOL. Phew.
Tim | 07.09.07 - 4:12 pm | #

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Jesus Michael, put your quotes from the nutjobs in quotation marks. You scared the shit outta me.
Tim | 07.09.07 - 4:08 pm | #

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That's fukin funny.
Takes a bunch to make me laugh.
I just try to not put duplicates in volume on the board, conversely, you must read the board to understand much of what I interject........
Michael D. | 07.10.07 - 12:22 am | #

my eyes are oen to the whole truthand iam more consurnd for our way of life.then any one of you will ever be ..as its called so fraggel ..is not going to be easy for long if we allow the SPP to make the NAU..then we we only be two steps from beeing united with EU and UN..whis is the real thing the global empire NAU EU and the leading body UN ...all with there own arms combined forces and grunt mercinaries to keep us policed...and terror and fear for deccades to come. i see a dark future...the time of trubbles.
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 11:13 pm | #

iam here for god and people not a place or an idea.or or a sociaty an organization a pholosify of life and the unreality that is ....that is how the world should loook other wise you treat others poorly...satan is real hell is now.. cruel is something thats going to happen...here and we have to make better chooices as a system of thought to the nature of the beast...and what its doing..and how it manupliates..what technology is doing to the system of controll thats being implaced with out our consent...these are issuses that i have problemes with a sociaty that hast to make fear and controll there prim agenda is something that needs to be changed..
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 11:05 pm | #

its a preaty said world out there when the most perscribed drug in our sociaty is anti-dippressants...people are already being numbed to the real world problems at hand..it needs to be more poublicy anoused these issuese that are hidden to the commonr that things red white and you means something still.....when if fact its not so true..we are going to be slaves to the UN beast soon i hate suggesting the reality that its all comeing down with in the next cenery or two...but if people are really woken up...spreaed the word on the money, get radio station something has to be told..alex does his thing i dont want to see a atom bomb go off in my near future and the fire that would come of it, what if it hit yellowstones supervolcano...
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 10:57 pm | #

terry in fla
Endtimetruther | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 8:55 pm |

I dont know "more" about it but yes the signs are all there like youre saying. the big corporate lobbies and legal actions to bury the small farmers every chance they get.. example monsanto "patented" vegetable and fruit genes pollenating nearby crops by wind birds and bees.. then they sue the small farmer for, hello.. acts of GOD that an insurance company wont even pay out on..
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 10:04 pm | #

George Stephanopoulos says hed bet everything against Ron Paul winning, He either knows the minds of the American people ......yeah as if......or really......he knows the system is rigged...seems to like it too doesnt he ?
Pretend journalists your age is fading
Nic meredith | 07.09.07 - 9:45 pm | #

Lou Dobbs tonite had a spot on the heat wave across america,they said this is the worst droughts in a 500 yrs history in farming states,Ala,Ga and some other states,yet its raining cats and dogs in Ks and few other places.I smell a rat here.We all know of weather control and HAARP,Chemtrails.Also Russia has these same powers.Looks like they want to destroy small farmers even more and cause famine maybe,you all know this Illuminati cabal needs to destroy america from with per CFR and etc.Or this could be just a Sun cycle that happens every so maney hundreds of years.I my self feel its a control destruction by the eleit powers.Also major fires out of control,maybe set on purpose also.As I shop for groceries more and more vegetables come from other countries.Read labels on food containers,take Mott apple juice,its from apples from Chilie,what the hell I grew up in Ohio,Mich and INd,apple grow up the cazuu,now we got to eat apples from Sou America.ADM owns 70 percent of the worlds food,that Rothshilds or Rockefellers.Does any out there beleive I am loseing it????Or am I onto something,most are more informed than I.Please post. terry in fla
Endtimetruther | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 8:55 pm | #

iam also starting to beleave that the antichrist that was sent to decive the massies and spread fauls daugma to the world has already been here and has deceivd the world...and we bear the ill faulse teachings of thos antichrist words today ...for iam the son of the morning lord..who is know as the devil. lucifer satan and many othe names...soon shall be the time of the real christ child..
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 8:51 pm | #

as such, its my choice to even inform you all about this, which i consider masses ..I'am projecting good in a safe enviroment, which i can trust not to be redicualed for my beleafs if i spoke like this at a chruck or in the real world,. people would shune me and call me a lunitic..but i see the truth in what is really going on...in this world...and i need to choose to do something about the disinformation
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 8:36 pm | #

..projecting good while altherthings enough, life will test you its apart of the game you choose when you came here.

iam not saying do nothing, do what thi will yet harm none. when you choose an evil path to take to get to a greater good, that path is still evil and mostlikely will be taken that way, is it worth risking your whole soul for? I Dont think so. if you inform the mass's about an evil plot that's projecting good onto the world...but fighting evil with evil is still evil..... its time people realise violence death and sacerfice are only helping the devil, words and wisedem help the creator.
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 8:28 pm | #

jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 11:31 am | #

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I wanted you to know that I have never shared that incident in 30 years. Becasue I was rebelious and incidently I still am, the focus of my disqust is not the soldiers bearing the battle, the cannon fodder, my resentment, anger, disilusionment,is not aimed at those who serve, it is directed at the masters who control. I hope you were not offended in any event.
The present regime, the Elite masters and their lapdog lakeys, offend my soul. When i think of these creatures, I invison parrasites feeding off humanity, a crimainal regime that has betrayed its citizens, crimes against humanity, mass murder, deceit , greed, and treason.
The very enemy our military is oathed to protect us against is their master, from full birds up they know this. The Genreals have obeyed the political masters but have betrayed their souls, and their country. We bear witness to human sacrifice for profit and power.
chris jones | 07.09.07 - 7:54 pm | #

beleave is realitiy for it is not.
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 7:05 pm | #

Hi Noneim.
Free will is the test, that final and eternal step we take.
The great divider, the wheat and shaff, so many terms, so many dogmas, so many phiosophys, they can become confusing.
we can wave flags and pay taxes, hail the chief, send our children to fight their wars. We can turn in our neghbors who speak out against the regime, there are so many senarios for those who are conviced of our countrys upstanding home of the free and land of the brave.
Or we can seek truths, afterall are they not the closest we can get to the ultimate knowledge. We spend time on this earth in this body of flesh and bone, but that light inside is who we are in truth. If in fact we denounce our ability to make a choice, if we deny free will ,we deny who bestowed us with this blessing. Its time, to decide for who the light shines, vegtables do not have that quality, humans do. The essence of soul is to be proven, the test is at hand and the evidence of choice is the use of free will. To deny, that test, to sit idly by and witness destruction of poplulations, innocent civilians, to remain voiceless when deceived and manipulated determines or define the indivduals soul.
Have i lost my point. I will quote someone unknown to me, evil exists because good men do nothing.
chris jones | 07.09.07 - 7:30 pm | #

we are in hell being tested..there is so much more to look forward to when we leave this realm..and move on, i don't know how to explain it anybetter then i have...there are more important things you need to be worrying about....iam not giveing times dates or questions things that will come,. the wikkid will allways rule in this realm of realitly theres nothing you can do to change it, this is the devials play ground...projecting good while altherthings enough, life will test you its apart of the game you choose when you came here...our spirits are very important dont get caught up in the mortal moccory of what is truly impportant is all iam saying
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 7:15 pm | #

beleave is realitiy for it is not.
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 7:05 pm | #

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reality is as you judge it. There is a reality in this way of being. You may shun the reality of this system as false or unimportant; however it is still there. I suspect that when we leave this world we take some of what we have learned and done with us...just a guess......
Ron in LA | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 7:08 pm | #

I'am not here to show the underlineing meaning behind the whole question of what comes from you desisions inlife, that is for the creator to deside, iam here to explain what is impportant..projecting good into the world....and do not be fooled by the temtations of the mortal flesh world we beleave is realitiy for it is not.
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 7:05 pm | #

when the pope said hell was a state of mind he wasn't lying he was misleading the real message, im not sure why but he had partial truth to those words.maybe he just doesnt think the world is ready to except the real reality yet..but i think hes wrong.
noneimportalsoul | 07.09.07 - 6:58 pm | #

do good..show good..and good will come....do bad and be destroyed.
noneimportantsoul | 07.09.07 - 5:22 pm | #

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Much of what you say in this post is teuth; however, sometimes working is the right thing to do; sometimes worry about the ills of society is the right thing; sometimes standing up for yourself or others is the right thing; and sometimes there is no right thing so you choose the best thing, which is then the right thing......I do not see it as black and white as I understand your post to be.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 6:58 pm | #

RON PAUL --
http://prisonplanet.com/ articles...0707ronpaul.htm

I think I detected a bit of warrior there in Ron Paul when he was told that him winning just wasn't gonna happen. I never have liked that little guy doing the interview -- He obviously was asking questions that came from a bit of deep seated hostility.

Vote Ron Paul 2008. Continue to donate to his campaign ONLY BECAUSE he needs us to help establish himself as a contender. That's the game they play ($$) // It doesn't matter what the message or who the messenger is -- just as long as $$ comes into play // the more the better -- they think. That's where their priorities lie.

And speaking of lie -- 9/11 and the official story.

Play their game (now) but only until such time as Ron Paul (as our next President) can change the playing field for future elections.
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 6:37 pm | #

do not allow the bussy niss of life to fool you, nothing in this life is important..every thing dosnt matter when your dead...you will loose everything you think you care about what should it matter to you now...dont get possesed in to the devials trickory test your faith and your soul..do good things and good will shine..as i am....iam here to allow you all to see the truth..i dont care if you berate me. that is the deval iam here to show the real path that you should be on..work doesnt matter societies dont matter, organizations dont matter, you matter...yourself and the goodness you project on the world....you have the holey spirit with in you..do good..show good..and good will come....do bad and be destroyed.
noneimportantsoul | 07.09.07 - 5:22 pm | #

evial will allways rule this world, there's nothing you can do about that, do good things and good willl come for you...do bad things and suffer later, do not fall into there web of evil do not let the deval destroy your soul he is a master triskter and hates you all..this is his realm were in and in will end soon
noneimportantsoul | 07.09.07 - 5:13 pm | #

There again, like some good 1SG and some bad 1SG -- not all general officers have spoken out either .
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 11:31 am | #

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Hi J.
Unfortunely, may of the brass waited for retirement to come forward.
What gets to me is they took an oath, it appears they took it lightly. These men are not fools, they know who their masters are, it appears though they may have bravado they are moral cowards.
Some, in my humble oppinion may be deeply involved. Ya J. that did happen in Nam, and in truth I didnt stop John to save the top kick, I didnt want to seem my freind in Levenworth prison over that peice of shit. By the way this top kick, hated my guts with a passion, and never found out I saved his bacon. I CS'd his underground bunker each night i passes it, and pissed in his air tubes, calling him out, by the way, he never came out.
chris jones | 07.09.07 - 4:35 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti...7/ 080707Tax.htm

truth is the power companies will never invest in or allow alternative energy because it would put them at risk of going out of business. theyre already raping our wallets, and want to rape more with carbon taxes, making US pay for THIER unwillingness to change. it's up to us as induviduals and we wouldnt be able to afford solar panels, windmills, and hydrogen extractors if were paying carbon tax. who's best interest are these idea's in ?!
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 4:20 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...a_kickedout.htm

disgusting.
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Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 4:14 pm | #

Jesus Michael, put your quotes from the nutjobs in quotation marks. You scared the shit outta me.
Tim | 07.09.07 - 4:08 pm | #

This is a chilling statement. This is the Harbinger of things to come!
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ july2007/090707_a_arrested.htm
After being arrested, Perry is now scared of the police. She says, "Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."
Ron in LA | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 3:12 pm | #

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Ron in LA | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 3:15 pm | #

Look who's lookin...
http://www.vortexhc.com/video.html
lww | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 3:04 pm | #

Spiritus Sancti , life is a test of the soul not to be taken seriously you chose to come here and be tested, do not fear death..do not choose to be wikked or your soul will be destroyed if you choose this path in this test, if you chose to be good and do good your essense will live for eturnity in the real realitiy that your being perpaired for.. open your eyes and realize that your body is just a shell, if you have ever done dugs and know about self detactment then you have a greater understanding of what this is about..we are only here for a short time, no one has to suffer for ever this is hell ..but only if your away from the creator enjoy it and understand that it wont last forever....but do not be fooled by the sins of the flesh..that is the devils own trickory to make you suffer later.
noneimportantsoul | 07.09.07 - 2:54 pm | #

I guess this seems pretty small in the overall scheme of things, but I notice that the Guardian Cif (`Comment is Free') section has acquired software that prevents the most pain in the ass elements (such as your present interlocuter) posting UNDER THEIR OWN NAME.

I had (without engaging in any abuse against others) worked my way up to `Adam21bansGhaznavi' (enough Cif medals to make it to 2nd Lt in North Korean army) & now find myself subject to a TOTAL lockout.

oops, looks like I made it through.

Still 4 bans in one day with only one post making it through (& that to complain about the censorship) is pretty heavy censorship.

I know, I know, for a bunch of fiat currency mongering paedophilic nuke war freaks that like to get their rocks of in fromt of a big stone owl, it might seem pretty small in the scheme of things, but I still say its just not cricket...
Adam Ghaznavi | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 2:52 pm | #

If Prison Planet wants to be taken seriously, then tone down, show some sanity by not raving on like a maniac, and show some ACTUAL PROOF.
M | 07.09.07 - 11:54 am |
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I'm just a participating member but one that feels that he's gotten a pretty good education when it comes to 9/11 truths. I by no means claim to know the inner workings of why and why not // just the FACTS (the actual proof) of what it is you wish to SEE -- see since it obviously doesn't really truly exist as evidence of any importance in the first place.

To that I must add that you either have FACTS in the opposite that you wish to personally align yourself with -- or-- you're just not too well-versed on all the FACTS that truly do exist when it comes to 9/11.

Here's a blind stab at some of those so-called facts // you know you should rightfully question when the 'obvious' has been purposefully withheld from view.

For example: Proof positive that 19 Arabs did in fact attack our country on 9/11. I mean to be of any true value and not just some wild 'conspiracy' theory standing alone without absolute 'Proof'-- then there needs to be proof that there were in fact Arabs involved, and if so, just how many truly was that (exactly), and who - - the culprits by positive identity. That seems a likely starting place to get a handle on all this conspiracy stuff that floats around the web. You know who I mean -- the crazy nut cases that would even question the basic facts involved in our nation's perhaps most serious crime ever.

All the lingering questions that surround those 19-Arab terrorist, such as government awareness in advance of who they were // you will surely recognize -- watching them afar while they (the terrorist) attended flight training -- not connecting the dots, watching from afar, but close enough to leap in a single bound and have on the evening news almost immediately the faces of 19 photographs and followed shortly thereafterdescriptions of who was in which airplane, etc. That's one thing BUT to then have the Director of the FBI admit that they (the government) might have not gotten every name and every possible descriptive right. Maybe that's WHY no Arab name shows up on any flight manifest -- and -- WHY no
'real' DNA evidence was every provided to show proof positive the culprits involved.

Wait, even the forreign press claims within days to challenge the FBI list because some of those exact same folks (to the tune of 8 or 9) came forward and explained they were still alive, that they (in one case) had no idea where Pennsylvania was prior to learning he had been instrumental in the the hijack and subsequent crash of flight 93. You'll remember that's the flight the government claims crashed -- and not shot down.

Why no question about that?

And then there is the obvious planted evidence. The over night bag that as luck would have it failed to make it on the airplane with the hijacker. The man thought to pack an over night bag on a one way trip, never to return, yet brought along his passport, his last will and testiment, a flight instructional manual, etc . But what if it HAD made it on the airplane (you might ask?) // what if it HAD been placed on the luggage cart -- especially since he had no control or not on over putting the actual bag on board the airplane, or not. Maybe it's just one of those things, huh, just like the crazy idea of taking a 'last will and testiment' aboard the airplane anyway -- what good would taking it along do all burned up in a firey crash? Any of that stuff. But it wasn't the FBI that planted that bag (since it didn't get boarded along with its owner) -- it was the hijacker that left it purposefully. He wanted it known to the world WHO he was. How absolutely nice of him to do that since it made our official story version so much more authentic.

Still that matter of those other hijackers still alive. Well, lets just not think about that too long // We wouldn't want to have a mental flameout worrying over all that now would we.

Then there's the paper passport of one of the hijackers that survived the firey inferno. Nothng else much survived that day // well, the steel did -- but that was quickly shipped overseas so no one would be troubled over having to stumble over all that mess. The sooner the better, clean up, I mean. Get the same old guys that did such a wonderful job back in 1995 -- when the Oklahoma City Federal Building was bombed, a certain team of experts were called in to save the day and demolish what the iniital bomb had failed to do. I mean it absolutely had to come down, couldn't leave it standing there like that in such a sad condition, especially since it had only been partially demolished // what an eye sore it was too // believe there were 'reports' of multiple bombs found inside, and cries to stop the clean up made by interested persons, and some even saying that the evidence seem to indicate that explosive forces were focused outwards more and not so much inwards. But, well again, there's go that stuff we really don't want to think long about // Only continues to give us headaches questioning stupid things like that anyway. Just more of the same old bullsh*t, isn't it.

Lots and lots of video coverage in an near the Pentagon that day // it was (is) the world's most heavily protected building afterall -- and video surveillance is something the government loves to do, all those cameras and security personnel watching screens, etc. Even some video cameras in use at nearby hotels, AAFES gas station, Navy Complex, etc. Lots of coverage that day. Not so much shown to us however.

And something else not so much shown to us is any of the four airplanes. We seem to lose focus on the two that were obviously destroyed when they struck the WTC, but that still leaves the Pentagon flight (11) and the Shanksville fllight (93). They (the government) claim the existence of both flights and even claim the damage to be caused by one. We think we saw one at the WTC from all the TV coverage -- but the area of operations just wasn't the same when it came to covering the Pentagon and that flight over open countryside. Too bad about that too, isn't it. All that conversary about an airplane that struick the Pentagon, or was it a missile, or was it a bomb, or was it even an airplane to start with (??). A simple little video evidence would at least put this line of questioning to rest. But no can do -- national security concerns take priority here.

Reflecting still on those last two flights (11 & 93) / where's all the government evidence -- by serial numbered parts cross-checked with appropriate documentation to verify same -- when in both cases we are 'required' to take it upon faith that there were airplanes involved and they were in fact the ones we are told they were // eventhough NO proof exists since no serial number (or Arab bodies) have surfaced to-date. There was some 'offical' certification that DNA evidence recovered from the charred remains of bodies at the Pentagon site have been identified as those Arabs the FBI told us about. Pretty amazing sc9ence involved in all that DNA collection, especially since no truly visible major airplane part(s) survived the stone walls of the building. No steel engines BUT there was DNA evidence. No wings, no luggage, no wheels, no airplane body BUT there was DNA evidence to test and certify. Wonder how they managed to obtain a sample to match that DNA up against? Just one of those stupid questions that pops into mind when trying to believe the official story version of 9/11.

And the questions go on and on. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck -- what do you think it is?

Had prior knowledge of pending attacks yet nation remained off guard and unprepared.

No air defense (no military fighter jets to the rescue), no ground to air missile defense employed.

And all that stuff about the West wall and round hole and smell of cordite and all those parts (evidence) found on nearby grounds -- they want us to know about it as such BUT fail to prove without a shadow of a doubt that it came from either airplane -- well all that does is really set the mind to unnecessasry swim doesn't it.

And the list goes on and on. Yet some prefer to get on the side of the official story as if NOT doing so would call into question their undying patriotism. Just like all those soldiers now serviing proudly in Iraq (3606 dead -- as of 7 July this year) // those guys are patriotic too. But they're getting paid $$ to be soldiers and doing the job that soldiers are ordered to do -- What motivates you?
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 2:35 pm | #

What the hell!!! Infowars used to be pretty! Now it comes out the depths of hell.

http://www.infowars.com/articles...s/police_state/ (old)

http://www.infowars.com/ police_s...lice_state.html (new)
Tim | 07.09.07 - 12:25 pm | #

Hi M.
To ttempt to way the oppinion of those who have seen behind the curtain of deception this goverment has erected, well my freind, we are needed. It is by coice yes, and necessity we pledge ourselfs to right the wrongs heaped upon us.
You must admit its quite difficult to beleive in the OL Gov. at this point in time.
I too beleive the majoirty aboard this web, want a better world a cleaner world, however many sincere and itelligent indiviuals have disputed the methods and reasoning. We perpetuate most often times truths, they perpetuate conspiracys.
Truths, and facts are not conspiracys, they expose conspiracys for what they are.

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Chris Jones,

That's good that you are standing for something you believe in, but a majority of these conspiracies (not all of 9/11) are just tossing up ideas into the air. The fact that every article I have seen recently on Prison Planet is always the opposite of what "actually happened" is clearly just open ended ideas that have no physical or reliable basis.

ie. The fact that most articles are written by people that are nameless Joes that have no backing to be trusted more than some writer for CBS/ABC, etc. If I am to take Prison Planet's stance on looking at everything in the news, every major event that takes place at the present with total skepticism, than I have to do the same with every article that is posted on this website!! I mean, come on, it's only logical and no one can be blamed for that. There has to be hardcore evidence and the only thing close to having enough evidence that shows things to be other than what they seem are many things about 9/11, 7/7, and the Iraq War.

Alex Jones seems like a genuinely good hearted person that is interested in bringing our country back to what it should be, but he falls into that grey area of people, just like people in govt., that your not sure you can really trust or even take seriously. Conspiracy Theories are not all illegitimate, but everything cannot be a conspiracy theory because you wouldn't be able to take anything seriously or look at anything with a sense of truth inside of it. 9/11 will never be proved to be an inside job, because those in power will make sure it is never proven, and secondly, they would never admit to it. All we can really say is that we don't know what the truth is. You can only speculate until the end of time what could be.

If Prison Planet wants to be taken seriously, then tone down, show some sanity by not raving on like a maniac, and show some ACTUAL PROOF.
M | 07.09.07 - 11:54 am | #

Daddy Bush --

Listen to what it is he says -- SEX (we've had some triumps, we've had some ...) // just goes to show where these people come from as regards their true self:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...h? v=oiPzM98h7NA

And this is a good one too as regards Nazis --http://video.google.ca/videoplay? docid=8795795223394289910
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 11:48 am | #

find and watch the JFK BUSH CONNECTION.. he named planes and ships after his wife, involved in all kinds of big dirty operations.
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 11:38 am | #

George Stephanopoulos tried to say that He is betting against Ron Paul in 08. But he is a piece of trash, and I'm voting for RP. He is the best bet this country has.
transduction | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 11:37 am | #

Man-Bush's father was a busy man in the sixties and seventies....
Gregory Lega | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 11:34 am | #

yup, Air America and CIA .. and HIS father prescott bush was funding NAZI GERMANY through WW2 until near the end when he was busted for it.
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 11:36 am | #

Man-Bush's father was a busy man in the sixties and seventies....
Gregory Lega | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 11:34 am | #

Wow -- CHRIS JONES

If that was a re-play of something that you truly know about, something that was for real // all I can say is -- Wow.

I too was in Vietnam (think we've discussed this briefly between us already) but what I just SAW in my mind's eye was the situation as you relayed it in that story you posted.

That lSG was certainly not a good first sergeant, not if he allowed you guys to serve basically unsupervised like that // as far as the clean shave and the polished boot look -- a lSG has to set an example for all to follow. And all means everybody. A shave is required even when in the field // (everything accepted and permitted) even in a war zone. To be tucked away safely while a fight is going down and not showing himself until ALL SAFE is sounded // and then on top of that to give his soldiers the finger ... well, I really don't know what to say about that other than the guy surely wasn't a good first sergeant. He wasn't a good 'anything' kind of sergeant.

During my time in service, I met some good ones and some bad ones -- even a few in between ones. But the good ones stand out as did the bad ones. You sound like you had a bad one.

I was an E-8 but a different kind of E-8 than most others. I was an Admin guy but served with the idea that grade really didn't matter -- it was getting the job done that was more important. I also believed that treating all others (regardless of pay grade) was more a basic right thing to do.

That kind of logic eventually paid off because I eventually became associated with the enlisted compassional review board at HQDA -- that's where we (enlisted all) made decisions on fellow soldier assignments based upon reason of extreme family hardships. Oftentimes we arranged for reassignment regardless of paygrade and current assignment // in other words if the situation permitted it, we might assign an E4 whose job was driving tanks to downtown Detroit, Michican (or another such assignment) where they certainly wouldn't be driving any tank // just because those select soldiers had severe personal family problems and deserved to be treated as an exception to the rules.

Sometimes the best leader was the informal (lower grade) person, just because he or she understood what it truly MEANS to lead another by example. Not everybody can do that -- sitting in a classroom and having someone tell you all about it -- it just doesn't always work out that way to be the best way. We are each of us a collection of everything -- how that comes out and is perceived by another is usually exactly what that collection indicates. And in your example of the 1SG -- an obvious collection of coward and arrogance and stupidity and disregard for fellow soldiers. Just someone who wanted the stripes and 'to hell with everyone else' kind of guy. Some put on the stripes and it goes right to their head // Sometimes that also applies to those that wear the bars and stars as well.

I think today our best leaders can be found in those General Officers that retired because they knew that t'hings' weren't quite right with the battle plans being directed by those folks all the way back in Washington. That's why they surfaced as disagreeing with GWB and their boss RUMSFELD on many things related to the progress of the war. There again, like some good 1SG and some bad 1SG -- not all general officers have spoken out either .
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 11:31 am | #

what really peevs me is cheney, bush, clintons.

halliburton/kbr/blackwater mercenaries in the middle east is about 1/3 the people there to fight and they are not accountable for their actions for hiding behind corporate policies. doing horrible things our troops are forbidden to, making it that much more dangerous for enlistee's sent there.

cheney giving halliburton no-bid contracts to build FEMA concentration camps on US soil when we've been there done that during WW2 against Americans of japanese descent. not any different than NAZI's doing unto Jewish people.

cheney claiming he is not part of the executive branch and above the law.. with georgie boy trying to follow suit on it, and they both handing more power to themselves at every turn.

"out hunting" at the SAFARI CLUB (where they open a cage so you can shoot an exotic animal!) cheney shoots another official claiming it was from 30 yards.. where alex jones proved it wasnt 30 feet.. but it was hushed up when cheney should have been arrested for attempted murder.

then thers the BUSH/NAZI connections, operation paperclip for NASA and "social engineers"...
and "poppy bush" running Air America, private company like blackwater.. trading weapons for opium thru korea and vietnam... then when vice president under reagan .. oliver north and noriega was the same thing for cocaine, with little buddy billyboy clinton taking shipments into mena arkansas airport when he was governor and hillary's rose law firm setting up tyson chicken as a money laundering operation for it... as nancy reagen gets on the soapbox with "just say no" to reverse psychology advertize all the drugs SOMEONE had an abundance of to sell.. followed up with a "war on drugs" and privatizing the jail systems .. the largest growing industry in America as all of our skilled manufacturing is outsourced overseas funded by corporate welfare grants from the government, leaving the taxpayers unemployed.. where a lot of em turn to peddling drugs to make a living...

if it doesnt look like conspiracies:

the preacher from his pulpit told me "the day had come" and that the sky was purple! a little later as I was exiting the church he handed me a pair of rose colored glasses, and as I stepped outside I saw indeed his words were truth.
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 11:14 am | #

Speaking of US Flags and military unforms:

-- I just discovered this from an Army source --
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/ a...uniformflag.htm
***extract***
When purchasing the flag, the only ones authorized for wear on the uniform is THE REVERSE FIELD FLAG in red, white and blue. Subdued flags and those in other colors are in violation of U.S. code, Morales said. Individuals should comply with Army Regulation 670-1, Wear and Appearance of the Army Uniform and Insignia.
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"The flag is worn on the right shoulder to give the effect of the flag flying in the breeze as the wearer moves forward,” Morales said. “This will serve as a vivid reminder that our nation is at war.”
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 10:57 am | #

My first Sargent.
My freind John and I were on a Listening post in tay Ninh Nam. We were hit by ground attack, fortunely only one man ws wounded, unfotuntly he lost his arm, as destiny would have it this man was a apprentice sculptor. The all clear was given the next morning, and low and behold along comes our first sargent. He had spent this night in his very deep underground bunker and his little luxurys.
Here he was in his jeep , his driver slowly folowing a track behind the bunker lines, he tood full hieght balancing himslef by holding the windshied. He was shaven wearing his starched unform, jaw forward so proud of himslef as he looked upon us.
My friend John gave this man the peice sign, he retaliated by giving my freind John the finger.
John was tired and broken feeling deeply our friends injury, his face and mine were blackened, but his tears had washed lines exposing his skin tone. In anger he raised an M16 to fire on this first sargent. I stoped my freind, not so much for the first sargent but for John, he is not worth it John, I told him as his tears continued to line his blackend face.
Two mentalitys interact, the human being,John, and the dillusional,sadistic,cowardly,egotisitcal, powermongering fake.
I attempted to draw a parrallel between this F. Sargent and those who use our blood and money for profit, though in truth they dont compute, those who manipulated this war though similar in many ways can not be compared, they are in a league of their own.
chris jones | 07.09.07 - 10:53 am | #

I say bring our troops home and send "their" asses over there to fight it since they are the ones who want it so bad. Give'em their fancy uniform with the backwards flag (which I might add has drifted over to the police forces here for a curious reason) and let them see how it is to actually have to work for a living. By the way, since when do our police forces need to "
our flag!! Right now it needs to fly one way, upside down for a distress call. God Bless True Americans.
Sons Of Liberty | 07.09.07 - 10:41 am |
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I took one look at that post (above) and wondered if I wasn't SLEEP TYPING (a form of sleep walking) // says exactly what I feel.

Thought it was just me, but I got to wondering about that backwards flag on the military uniform also -- seems to me the blue background with stars ought to be on the left side and not the right side of the flag. I'm not sure if I'm right or not and if I am -- not sure what the hell it means.

But, like I said --
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 10:50 am | #

was a guy back west in the mid 70's did a modified carburetor (it involved some water injection too) he was getting 75-80 mpg from a 500 cubic inch caddilac engine with about 12% loss of power. he and his son were killed, the surviving brother had plans for sale for a while in mother jones magazine then that also dissappeared. the subject was there briefly and less detail in the interview with the rothschild whelp. there is also information on a hydrogen extractor that the inventor was silenced the hard way http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanm.../ stanmeyer.html
-but the hydrogen cells commercially proposed involve uranium and very costly and pollutive to manufacture, unlike these other inventors efforts.
naaw, it isnt a conspiracy.
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 10:46 am | #

I wish PrisonPlanet quit attackiing the environmental organizations who rightfully believe global warming is real. I agree that we must make sure that the fight against global warming isn't led by the globalist elite, but I think various collective mvoments are absolutely fine. Let's not call everything a conspiracy, O.K.?
Martin Johnson | 07.09.07 - 10:34 am | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h? v=Z0Ag395cqUM

aww they left out osama bin ladin and al-CIAda!
they did get "el busho" with nookyalur lol. if he cant say nuclear, if he had any sense he'd use the word atomic .. but thats GWB for ya!

I'm optimistic in my pessimism, am capable of seeing the brightest spot on the darkest turd!
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 10:28 am | #

Oh please, I'm sorry but you guys have the most negative view on everything. Sure, it's good to be skeptical, but you really take it overboard into the level of obsession. Live Earth was a great step in the right direction. A lot better than splitting hairs and criticizing something that is obviously intended for good.

I was really into reading about 9/11 and other things, but after hearing everything is a conspiracy theory on this website (VA Tech, everything you focus on) I'm seriously done hearing a lot this negative trash. Even if things were this bad, you make yourselves look like the crazy conspiracy theorists the world paints you to be, and they are probably right.

You see the problem (Prison Planet) have passed into the land that makes everything a conspiracy theory, which is logically flawed. Skepticism is good, but once you cross over too far, everything has to be skeptical - even your hardcore conservative morals you claim to stand by.
M | 07.09.07 - 10:22 am | #

yuppers, sane is a web HOUND !! I'm amazed PP isnt hiring him to help with the PP articles to put in more related links.. more sources to verify and validate the truth even better to readers. its probably a small percentage of PP visitors that pop in here to haloscan.
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 10:19 am | #

I get bent around the axel so easily -- that's why I say some pretty stupid things at times.

SANE does seem to bombard the site with his million and one postings. I understand your point now about 'wait for it' // makes good sense.

This Sane person does do good here in that he/she (??) provides interesting links. The forum takes on an althogether different attitude when he's here and about // He seems like a personal newspaper all of our own. Our own mass media. Let's hope he stays away from assisting the cover ups and redirection of truths.

I've got nothing other than this for everyone's morning entertainment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h? v=Z0Ag395cqUM
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 10:13 am | #

Dafections, about time the military men and woman start waking up to the evil master plan.

They have served evil killing so many innocent people.
The honorable thing to do for humanity is to show Big Brother the game is over.
War lovers your time has come, no more will humanity fall for your lies and keep your terror for we now know who is the true enemy of humanity.

Peace and Love to those who can see through the smoke of disinformation of this evil cabal
Stewart | 07.09.07 - 10:10 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...apersplease.htm

I'm ticked about this one fer sher.. doing nothing wrong not "showing papers" they charged him, locked him up, tampered with his camera, dragging him into court today.. and wasnt long ago theyed grabbed up his KIDS !!
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 10:09 am | #

np jbrid, pizzagna an oldie tho..

the countdown was for our favorite resident 9-6 sane attacking cointel spammer richie, it was peaceful here all weekend lol.

he's an hour late by my clock.
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 10:05 am | #

what ya lookin here for? the joke is in youre hand!
are you serving a new hybrid dish of pizza and lasagna? -here, have it back lol.
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 9:59 am | _______________
I deserved that.
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 10:04 am | #

Hey SEE THINGS -- I have to apologize for one of my snide remarks to you. You're no joke, that was wrong of me to say something like that. I confused you with another that has a similiar signature // I really meant my remarks for him thinking it was him, etc. Sorry.

Great post you just made there concerning the concept of God and rights. You're right as rain. 100 percent. There always seems to be someone with a certain belief one way or the other that tries and force others to believe and 'see things' their way. Everyone has a right to their individual life and should be permitted to live that to its fullest. Restricting another in any fashion becomes control -- and who gives WHO the right to control another? That itself has to be wrong.

Again, sorry for the remark.
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 10:01 am | #

Fact or fable. Aproximetly 2 centuries past, a woman in her late thirties was know for her healing capabiltilities. One that comes to mind is she would attach to infected wounds moldy bread which in turn killed the infection.(basic peniclin).
The attention of her healings were brought to the local priest, in turn to the attention of the bishop etc. she was tried and burned at the stake for her satanic acts.
It appears the true message of Christ found its unevitable way into the hands of those who's basic and sadistic desire is the control of the masses. fear and control their being tool. I am certain this woman found herself in fire and brimstone for her deeds.
My point again lost, Fear kills logic, those who care to be our masters understand this, in fact are tutored in the art.A timeless aspect to their position of power.
This brings to mind street gangs, I can not explain why, however it does. When a gang leader decides it is time to expand his power and authority and of course profits. The most simple of methods is to sacrifice a few of his own gang members of course blaming this on his rivals. The effect is formidable, his gang seeks vengence, they must prove their loyalty to their colors and cheif, they color their retribution payback, they however simply been manipulated to increase their masters profit, power, control, ego, and so a sect for lack of a more enlightening definition is created to serve. Low level Government.
chris jones | 07.09.07 - 10:01 am | #

ST -- You're annoying. An individual with an obvious overly developed sense of self-importance // "Wait for it' // what a joke you are.
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 9:27 am | #

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what ya lookin here for? the joke is in youre hand!
are you serving a new hybrid dish of pizza and lasagna? -here, have it back lol.
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 9:59 am | #

the constitution is about validating inalienable God given rights, is why money printed "In God We trust". deny God if you want to but dont try to deny these rights to others.
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 9:55 am | #

how could anyone take Al Gore seriously about cutting energy consumption when he uses 20 times more energy than the average person?..yes its warmer but it has nothing to do with emissions or Al Gore...the sun is hotter..period....Gore is a phoney & fraud like all other politicans.... except Ron Paul of course
randy | 07.09.07 - 9:55 am | #

Not everybody believes in God, Please refrain from using him in anything American including money! Life is worth so much more when you realise it is the only chance you get!
Red | 07.09.07 - 9:26 am |
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Now why do you think I should refrain from making reference to God for no other reason than as you say -- not everybody believes in God.

I suppose you're saying you're one of those 'not everybody' crowd // and that's okay if you are -- no one is forcing you to believe anything, that included I would hope.

Your remarks seems so waaaay simplified; my way of thinking is it's a concept of belief in there being either a God, or there's not one. So what? Me believing one way or the other doesn't change the idea -- yes or no. And what does anyone's belief have to do with anything anyway? If you're looking for confirmation in this forum, you're looking in the wrong place -- look deep inside yourself and then take a few quiet moments to analyse what else exists inside this world we live in besides what has the hands of man upon it. Nature. Do you think the cockroach gets all hung up on there being a God or not? I doubt it -- but it wouldn't change anything anyway even if they did.

The universe is infinite =-- meaning it goes on forever and ever (or so it seems). What you see in the night sky as to stars are really suns, and around each of those suns circles planets and moons, etc -- they go on and on, forever deep.

If you don't want to believe in a simple concept like God -- that's your business entirely. But guess what? I believe there is one. Maybe far beyond any understanding of what our simple minds might conceive BUT still someone (??) far superior to anything found on this earth that might want to discuss Him -- yes or no.

My $.02
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 9:38 am | #

ST -- You're annoying. An individual with an obvious overly developed sense of self-importance // "Wait for it' // what a joke you are.
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As to the death of Jim Morrison -- this admission/testimony seems sincere. Makes good sense that he died like he did and was then transported to his bath tub for cover-up reasons.
http://prisonplanet.com/ articles...707morrison.htm

Jim Morrison (The Doors) has always been one of my all time favorites. Got their music; read their book; tried but failed to visit JM's grave while I was visiting in Paris -- next time.
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 9:27 am | #

Live Earth was a corparate sponsored mass dumb down!
marco51 | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 9:17 am | #

doing the countdown here lol
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 8:58 am | #

--wait for it... 10 minutes about..
Sees Things | 07.09.07 - 8:56 am | #

And they sure are that (SOB) for ignorning 9/11 truths; and not doing their part to ensure domestic tranquility.

Vote Ron Paul 2008.
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 5:33 am | #

Hi J. Domestic tranquility is not on the regimes agenda. On the contrary, fear and confusion are on the top of their hit list.
The terror and mindless fear created by the decievers of the 911 abomiantion, is exactly what was intended. it is human nature to seek out a protector against such an act.( the ol' Gov.)
To truly beleive that the Taliban inspired by BinLaden conceived and orchestrated 911 would be an insult to the intelligence to any individual with an IQ in excess of 80 . Those of lesser inteligence could be convinced the Taliban are super beings capable of any conceivable abomination despite the fact the USA maintains the most sophisicated technology on the planet earth to protect this country against such an act.
These same margin of of people could also easily be swayed to beleive the murder of 750,000 innocents,civilians in Iraq was a righteously Democratic and honorable act, of justifyable murder.
However, the flag must be waved and band must play, as our righteous leader rant and rave about the coming doom of WMD's in Iraq. (Cheny gave an excellant performance in this regard, he deserves an oscar injected into his anus for that one, I take that back he might enjoy it.)
chris jones | 07.09.07 - 7:59 am |
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CJ --
I don't know what you do in your civilian life as to a job BUT you should seriously consider the area of Psychology of Human Behavior, you certainly seem to have a knack for understanding.
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 8:51 am | #

Hi Gabe.
Comfort zones are a form of hypnotism. If I slap you in the face, it might alter your dreamstate a little.
The program runs deep.
Gabriel A King | 07.06.07 - 6:09 pm | #
True, instance,Mafia principal sends gang to destroy merchandise and intimidate the owner of a firm.
After the incident,The mafia sends it negotiators , become chums to owner and portect him from further violence and threats, for a percent, payment, tax on his income. Litte does the owner know the perpetrators of the crimes were in fact lakeys of this same Mafia.
Time past-Landowner desires property owned by farmers,so he sends his hired guns to burn and murder and a few families, leaving about arrows as the weapons used for this massacre and perhaps scalp a few of the family, indication & result, blame placed on the savage indians. Fear being contageous and mindbending causes the remaining farmers to sell their farms to the landdowner, motivated by Fear.
Fear, centriues past, priests sold tickets, holy documents,insuring the departed loved ones would get to heaven . to insure their souls were in good grace. FEAR
911, Fear, a atrocity created by the lordly elite to instill terror and fear into the hearts of Americans. Insuring their dominance over the masses, and their ability to dictate to them their sincere intentions of protection, and loyalty. Carde Blanche.
Who were the terrotists?
chris jones | 07.09.07 - 8:03 am | #

In an effort to improve and enhance the ongoing education of our MALE viewers //

Male Restroom Etiquette--
(YouTube Video - 9 min; 56 sec)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h? v=IzO1mCAVyMw
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 7:42 am | #

sane,
Have you not a had a good life?
You can always go to the wilds of Africa and live in the wilderness if you choose to do so.
I prefer a nice home, a nice cabin cruiser and food.
What do you want?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:40 pm | #
Depends on ones concience does it not, moral principles, honor, dignity, sence of right and wrong, religous belief, and we must not forget presence of soul.
Your philosphy would effect the families of the 750,000 dead civilians killed, to include infants, children and woman. Perhaps you can visit Iraq and present to them your lifestyle. Bring your cabine cruiser along.
chris jones | 07.09.07 - 7:15 am | #

This website reflects the REALITY OF WAR --
http://www.icasualties.org/oif/

_______________Current US Deaths (as of 8 July 2007) = 3606

(and there's this -- a confused breakdown of wounded and other serious injuries):
Wounded and medical evacuations (As reported by the DoD as of 6/30/2007) //
MEDICAL AIR TRANSPORTS (HOSTILE AND NON-HOSTILE) = 35,638

-- plus --

WOUNDED - NO MEDICAL AIR TRANSPORT REQUIRED = 18,609

________________TOTAL WOUNDED/INJURED= 54,247
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 6:40 am | #

These are probably demon ridden ,twisted sociopaths that we payed for, who sold their souls for wealth and pleasure because they believe in the Hitler theory.
Billy | 07.09.07 - 2:32 am | #
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I think that man is waking up to this, yes.
sane | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 2:48 am | #

Good one S.
chris jones | 07.09.07 - 6:18 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...707Giuliani.htm
***extract***
In response to another question, Giuliani warned against pulling out of Iraq, saying it would create a country run by terrorists. And he said Iran should be kept from getting nuclear weapons.

"No way, no how should Iran be a nuclear power," he said.

Giuliani was serving as grand marshal at the Daytona International Speedway's Pepsi 400 later Saturday
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This guy was formerly a Mayor of NYC -- so how in the hell does that make him an expert on Iraq?

And why would any major corporation (Pepsi) make him a grand marshal at one of their events? -- other than say those who were blinded by lies and continue to be blinded by same. Not facing the truth in 9/11 seems extremely BLIND in my opinion.

We continue to discuss these facts among ourselves while our Congress ignores TRUTH as if it was no more than an event that happened across town while they were away at the beach enjoying themself in the sun (a little 'son and a beach' -- if you can understand my pun here.

And they sure are that (SOB) for ignorning 9/11 truths; and not doing their part to ensure domestic tranquility.

Vote Ron Paul 2008.
jbrid1138 | 07.09.07 - 5:33 am | #

cop-KILLA | 07.09.07 - 4:04 am | #

Did you see that Alex posted this video and I have been posting DVD 2?

Part 1
http://video.google.com/ videopla...834925200441495
Part 2
http://video.google.com/ videopla...076800390535825

That is now 2 times you have educated me
sane | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 4:22 am | #

hey still have too much control of the old mainstream information, that they can slip through the cracks unscathed.
Billy | 07.09.07 - 3:24 am | #

What do you mean, you don't work for an omnicom subsidiary do you?

Here is some reality into this theory:

>>CEOS IN THE MEDIA IN AMERICA

National Amusement (CBS/Viacom): Sumner Redstone
Subsidiaries:
-Viacom: Philippe P. Dauman
-CBS: Les Moonves

GE (NBC): Jeffrey Immelt
Subsidiary:
-NBC: Jeff Zucker took over in 2/6/2007 from Robert C. Wright [After the insanity of the Cheney regime]

Disney: John E. Pepper Chairman/Bob Iger CEO
Subsidiaries:
-ABC: Ann Sweeney
-Walt Disney Studios: Dick Cook

Time Warner: Dick Parsons
Subsidiaries:
-AOL: Randel Falco
-Turner Broadcasting: Philip Kent
-Time: Ann Moore
-Time Warner Cable: Don Logan

News Corp: Rupert Murdoch
Subsidiaries:
-Fox Broadcasting: Pres. Ed Wilson [no ceo/chairman]
-Fox Filmed Entertainment: Jim Gianopulos/Tom Rothman [co-chairs]
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Sources:
http://www.onesource.com
http://forbes.com
Company websites
sane | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 4:20 am | #

British Terror Head: "Be a little bit un-British and inform on each other"

Patrick Anus Licker Hennessy
London propogandergraph
Sunday July 8, 2007
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With friends like Sir Alan West, who needs enemys?
I hope all your friends will snitch on you Alan West, you efeminate poof. you joined the correct department for benders ally, in the Navy.

How many times did you take it in the Arse? quite a few I'll bet

Well I'll be you first snitch, Cheney did 911, Blair did 7,7 & the Queen murdered Diana.
The catholic church is being run by the Black Pope, using the Jesuits who are the spiritual leaders of genocide and just about anything evil you can think of.
There is much more for you to do, but I suspect this is already too much for you.

Hey BBC radio four, yes I heard you PUKING out this same bullshit on your brainwashing airwaves, Guess wot happens too snitches?
They usally get murdered.
cop-KILLA | 07.09.07 - 4:04 am | #

How does that wise old saying go?
"You become the enemy,"?

Israel was created to build a safe place for all Jews, because of Hitler and his ties to rich men who wanted to draw man one step closer to the line. Men like the Bush's. Soon the Jews wanted revenge like the devil and created a world of savagery all around them. Even though it's waning, hey still have too much control of the old mainstream information, that they can slip through the cracks unscathed.
Billy | 07.09.07 - 3:24 am | #

What I mean is, will man have enough sense or conscience to know when more is at stake then just our freedoms, but our very souls.
These aren't just everyday people with Jeffry Dahmer grimaces we're looking at in our idiot box's, that smile down on us from on high thinking what fools we are while they watch children snuff movies in big government houses.
These are probably demon ridden ,twisted sociopaths that we payed for, who sold their souls for wealth and pleasure because they believe in the Hitler theory.
Billy | 07.09.07 - 2:32 am | #
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I think that man is waking up to this, yes.
sane | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 2:48 am | #

What do you suggest wedo about it, there Sane?
Billy | 07.09.07 - 1:25 am | #
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Do about what?
sane | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 2:09 am | #

Selling short?

Mindy Kleinberg (911 widow) testifying to the 911 Commission made a solid point as to who knew which aircraft titles would be used in terrorist attacks on New York City. She stated how United States Intelligence agencies use sophisticated trackers to keep a close and watchful eye on the market by using real-time programmes to seek out trends that may indicate a present or future crime.

And a week before September 11th, both the FCC and Intelligence agency ignored one major stock market indicator on the Chicago Board Options Exchange. And on September 4th, put options were purchased on both United and American airlines. The investors who placed these orders we're gambling that in the short term that stock prices on both these airlines would plummet.

Never before on the Chicago Exchange were such large amounts on United and American options traded.
Billy | 07.09.07 - 1:55 am | #
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Nice post Billy, it was aweful how the investigation stopped when it led to Deutch Bank and director of the CIA.

Keep doing a great job reminding us of these real terrorists!

More here:

9/11 Insider Trading“Selling Short” is the borrowing of stock, selling it at current market prices ... Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant Deutsche Bank, ...
http://www.hereinreality.com/ ins...dertrading.html - 54k - Cached - Similar pages

SEC Investigates 9/ 11'Short' Stock Sales.The US Government also admitted it was investigating short selling, ... Most of these transactions were handled primarily by Deutsche Bank-A.B.Brown, ...
http://www.middleeast.org/forum/...ic/1/ 4463.shtml - 22k - Cached - Similar pages

Conspiracy Planet - 9-11: Unanswered Questions - 9/11 Conspiracy ...Short selling of stocks involves the opportunity to gain large profits by passing shares ... 9/11 Conspiracy: SEC Stalls Probe of Deutche Bank by TBRNEWS. ...
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/...& contentid=1522 - 22k - Cached - Similar pages

NewsMine.org - 9 11 trading.txtBrown, the American investment banking arm of German giant Deutsche Bank, ... 11 attacks and unusual patterns in the short-selling of insurance, ...
http://newsmine.org/archive/9-11...-11- trading.txt - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

SUPPRESSED DETAILS OF CRIMINAL INSIDER TRADING LEAD DIRECTLY INTO ..."Selling Short" is the borrowing of stock, selling it at current market ... "The source familiar with the United trades identified Deutsche Bank Alex. ...
http:// www.whatreallyhappened.co...egaltrades.html - 17k - Cached - Similar pages
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Most of these transactions were handled primarily by Deutsche Bank-A.B.Brown, a firm which until 1998 was chaired by A. B.'Buzzy' Krongard, who later became executive director of the CIA.

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sane | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 2:07 am | #

Wow look at all the debris that gets projected everywhere:

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm? f...videoid=8845601
sane | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 2:02 am | #

Lets not forget what their trying to do. The Immigration bill failed cause the real intent was to get the NAU and the SPP passed...Thats why they wont enforce any laws that were passed to curb immigration. What they want to do is deflect you from thinking about this issue whey in the back they try to raise it again. Im from NM and believe me Dominichi voted for Selling America out then, in the leaked bid to help senator save face he voted to kill the bill on the floor. Don't be deceived he isnt for this countyr and his current police for energy should show too. They just want you to think about other things why they try to sell America out behind our backs. And Dominichi is one of these trying to save face and get elected again so they he can get the NAU and the SPP passed. This is all smoke and mirrors. So we need to put pressure on them to end the war but also keep reminding them that we haven't forgot their trying to sell America out so that they know we aren't stupid and will call them on their actions. They think that cause the public thinks when the beat something, like they just did, that they will move on and forgwet it while they try to pass parts in other bills to bring this about. We need to watch their every action and call em on it!
Kevin | 07.09.07 - 1:35 am | #

What do you suggest wedo about it, there Sane?
Billy | 07.09.07 - 1:25 am | #

ALL FALL DOWN: The Politics of Terror and Mass Persuasion
http://www.cam.net.uk/home/Nimma.../ revelation.htm
by William Thomas - written 12 Nov '01 (web posted 25 Nov'01 - book order UPDATED 14 Jan '02)

Summary of this page:
Will about his new book: "Nearly 40 years as a professional journalist are in this book. Every bit of craft and experience I posses has gone into its pages. I have accumulated enough evidence to prove that a silent coup had taken place in the U.S. Do not be afraid. Do not believe the lies.
Take the events Sept. 11: it couldn't be real, but it had to be true. We didn't ask why a plane supposedly driven by its passengers into two separate crash sites in the Pennsylvania countryside came apart in mid-air. We didn't ask why the CIA met with an ailing Osama bin Laden in an American hospital as the biggest British battle fleet since the Falklands sailed for waters off Afghanistan, why Washington gave the Taliban $43 millions in May, or why the FBI and Attorney General of the United States repeatedly ignored warnings and blocked investigations into the impending attacks......
We did not ask because we were not told what had really happened. This war is being fought to reinstate the real "god" - gold, oil and drugs. Ask yourself: 'Who benefits? Who gains?' "
sane | Homepage | 07.09.07 - 1:20 am | #

Comfort zones are a form of hypnotism. If I slap you in the face, it might alter your dreamstate a little.
The program runs deep.
Gabriel A King | 07.06.07 - 6:09 pm | #

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I reall like that Gabriel, that was profound!
Ron in LA | 07.09.07 - 12:48 am | #

OMG, I want to bar, I want to fight, ......I want to be Anarchy.....
Ron in LA | 07.08.07 - 11:12 pm | #

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I meant BARF
Ron in LA | 07.08.07 - 11:23 pm | #

Well bros, I think that the good lord is waiting for us to do something, the wheat and shaft. Where do you fit .
Cris; I believe you mean the wheat and the chaff. Chaff is the loose portion of wheat plant.
mike s | 07.08.07 - 11:19 pm | #

The Falling Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h? v=BXnA9FjvLSU
Tim | 07.08.07 - 10:05 pm | #

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OMG, I want to bar, I want to fight, ......I want to be Anarchy.....
Ron in LA | 07.08.07 - 11:12 pm | #

Only Empeachment can bring some justice in all this madness
Ralph | 07.08.07 - 4:27 pm | #

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It would be a start, a public statement; hoever, we need to review the records of the congress and change the House and the Senate into place where average persons cna hold office. I am not saying that none of the rich folks shouls have seats....just hold their feet ot the fire on the representation of the masses!
Ron in LA | 07.08.07 - 11:09 pm | #

The Falling Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h? v=BXnA9FjvLSU
Tim | 07.08.07 - 10:05 pm | #

In July of 1952 the world was electrified by large newspaper headlines and photos of squadrons of UFOs flying repeatedly over the nation's Capital in Washington, DC. Four months later, WW II General Dwight Eisenhower was elected President. The same month President Eisenhower took office (January, 1953), the CIA's Office of Scientific Intelligence (OSI) was ordered to determine if UFOs were interstellar vehicles. OSI convened the Robertson Panel of scientists, which recommended expansion of an Air Force study of UFOs, Project Blue Book.

People of planet earth about time you wake up.It isn't too late.Look around you how you have all been deceived by your leaders comtroled by an evil cabal wanting to enslave you all.

You have a man of integrety who is going for your presedentials, about time you support the right people.

Do not fall in the trap Hittler placed for his people iun Germany.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES wake up.

BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE

Peace and Love to all humans on planet earth
Smithy | 07.08.07 - 9:38 pm | #

Well bros, I think that the good lord is waiting for us to do something, the wheat and shaft. Where do you fit .
We can sit here and wait for the last battallion of Christ with sword in hand or we can defend the innocent being murdered. By the way didn't Christ leave us a helper , The Holy Spirit, or did i misread the book. If so, and we are filled with this helper, Christ promise, then we would not sit idly by and do nothing. Is not your concience your personel judge,so to say , of your morality, integrity,faith and honor. Are we or are we not our brothers keepers.my point, and i talk to much, my apoligies,
Our Ilustrious Senate and Congres make no mention nationaly about the 750,000 civilian deaths of infants, woman, children and men of Iraq.
How very corageous of them, 535 were elected to uphold the Constituion. Great job huh.
They turn my stomach.
chris jones | 07.08.07 - 9:28 pm | #

THE END OF THE MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING MYTH:

DNA reveals Greenland's lush past

Armies of insects once crawled through lush forests in a region of Greenland now covered by more than 2,000m of ice.
DNA extracted from ice cores shows that moths and butterflies were living in forests of spruce and pine in the area between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago.

Airplanes and SUV's weren't around back then!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/t...ech/ 6276576.stm
RESISTANCE UK | 07.08.07 - 9:03 pm | #

Endtimetruther | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 7:31 pm | #

He hasn't held up shit-and it is good to engage in critical dialog. I think it very healthy and shows the ways to get beyong talking points of shallow faux-debunkers. The outing of these fake issues allows truth to have even stronger meaning. People are being swayed into believing there are 2 sides to every dtory-BULLSHIT. There are many perspecives but there is a constitution that protects us if we can only get to see it clearly.

http://www.haloscan.com/ comments...eaderComments42

I am TRON
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 7:57 pm | #

To ANONYMOUS WHO IS RAGGING SANE ASS:I am almost 65 yrs old,have a 36 yr old daughter,a 40 year old son,one grandson,two granddaughters.You have no kids right,thats cause you been beleiveing all the communist bullshit you must of learned in some commie college someplace.And your a pagan beleive in the UN agendas,lets see you never served in the military neither,just a wild guess on my part.I am a firm beleiver in the Holy Bible KJV,I beleive in God,he said mutiply and subdue the world,and as matter of FACT,when Jesus Christ comes back to destroy this UN NWO ANTICHRIST SYSTEM,that your deceived dumb as beleives in.He is going to raise all the dead beleivers in Jesus Christ from the beginning of time,GEE THATS A LOT OF PEOPLE,and we are going to live on earth for 1000 years and go onto big and better things after that.The world is in deep shit for one reason morons like who are cowards who refuse to see the truth,Christians feed the poor and employed,in america its called welfare.I been paying for that for 45 years and still do even tho I am on pension.Gee if your so worried about you selfcentered stupid ass and that america is going to sink and your poor ass is going to starve,just you right you have not kids,you have no fucking brains.There are 40 million illegal mexicans comeing here all the time for years now,why dont you go down and join the Minute man border patrol,so those mexican wont eat all your food you asshole.Dont worry your govt wont let you starve,they got fema camps for you 3 hots aday and then some slave labor for ya,then they will fry you in the ovens like Nazies did.You are one self serveing asshole.I drive from Fla to Ohio from time to time,I see nothing but miles upon miles of wide open spaces and forests,oh yea we are out of trees too.Your a dumb as who never traveled the world as I have and you dont have a fucking clue.Sane why do you give this fuckhead the time of day,he is holding up all the good info you give with you smarts on the use of the home computor,which I kinda like alot from you.Said my peice,let someone else jump in here and show this dumbass that is is just that a dumbass. terry in fla
Endtimetruther | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 7:31 pm | #

lets go red sox!
Ghost of Tom Jones | 07.08.07 - 6:21 pm | #

Rothschild books

Rothschild states in his book that Jupiter & Saturn are nearer to the Sun. Alex sated that this is lies. Now that is true from an average citizens point of view.But Rothschild is 100% Illuminati. So think about it.

So why would his book state that Saturn & Jupiter are nearer to the Sun than the other planets?

Simple. Think Rome think ancient Greece. Think Pagan Gods. In the Greco Roman Pantheon Jupiter & Saturn, the Gods not the Planets are closer to the Sun in terms of Hierrachy.

The book is thus a hidden message about paganism.
Graham | 07.08.07 - 5:28 pm | #
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Do you have any reference for this?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 5:56 pm | #

Al Gore and the elite Banking military complex politburo have disregarded all environmental laws.
We are beeing sprayed with CHEMTRAILS. The Banks have invested massive amounts in China . The Worlds Greatest polluter. Yet they want us all to stop our wasteful habits. HAHAHA. The concerts were being sprayed with Chemtrails but no one was looking up.

Ironic hypocricy utterly Hilarious.
Graham | 07.08.07 - 5:44 pm | #

Al Gore and the elite Banking military complex politburo have diregarded all environmental laws .
We are beeing sprayed with CHEMTRAILS. The Banks have invested massive amounts in China . The Worlds Greatest polluter. Yet they want us all to stop our wasteful habits. HAHAHA. The concerts were being sprayed with Chemtrails but no one was looking up.

Ironic hypocricy utterly Hilarious.
Graham | 07.08.07 - 5:39 pm | #

OF things to come. England, Mr West has told the pubilic to keep an eye on people,"" other citizens"" and report anything unusual.
Sound familiar, this is how it started in Germany. Don't worry we will be given the same rhetoric here soon enough. THE WORLD IS IN DANGER, THE TALIBANS ARE ON THE LOOSE. Red alert..
ol H.Goering was right when he told reporters, to control a nation you must give them an enemy, you must keep them in Fear, then your in total control of the ol masses, its easy he said, it works that way in any country.
We and our alies have killed 750,000 civilians in Iraq, now thats diplomacy for ya.
The insanity of it all is that so many people will not accept the reality. Does anyone beleive that after this genocide we have made freinds, or nurtured allies in the democratic system. After all this was democracy in action, if this is still America.
Just ask the regime in place, as if they would give you the time of day.
chris jones | 07.08.07 - 5:25 pm | #

Don't sound so defeated!
WE ARE WINNING THE INFO WAR!
what are you doing to help Stop the NWO today?
What did you do yesterday & Last week? month? year?
Are you Just sitting there & doing Nothing? or are you Handing out flyer's or Cd's in your Hood, Shopping Malls etc,
Do you write ( PrisionPlanet.com & Infowars.com 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB & BUSH DID IT! ) on the NWO money you spend to wake up other sleeping people?
Or do you Attack the NWO evil umbrella orgs like Alex Jones dose head On! Bullhorning the hell out of these evil NWO bastards! Yes! God Bless ALEX JONES!
Do you Like ( Myself & others in My org ) fly thousands of miles in a week hunting down these Evil NWO puppet Satanic bastards that molest your Children!
What the Fuck Are You Doing To Stop the NWO?
DON'T JUST SIT THERE! DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
You can warn people you know with your PCs! right NOW!
DO something! Every little bit you Do is a Nail in the Coffin of the New World Order!
What the Hell are you waiting for? Your Death in a FEMA Death camp?
Don't Just sit There! DO SOMETHING!
STAND STRONG PEOPLE OF TRUTH! God Bless America & the People of the World Fighting Against The EVIL GLOBAL EMPIRE / New World Order!
DEATH TO THE NWO!
doctor No NWO | 07.08.07 - 5:10 pm | #

Kick Bush and his bumbs out of office.

Only Empeachment can bring some justice in all this madness
Ralph | 07.08.07 - 4:27 pm | #

About this British terror bombs, wake up people
NOt all Britts are asswholes.Only those elite evil ones that are trying to control this planet. The rest of Britts are like us Americans or Canadians or Mexicans.

The bad ones need to be taken out of power thats all.

When we as ordinary humans realise that if we unite these evil people will fall

Have a great day and Pecae and Love

Important notice:

don't let there fear terror take away your brains and good side of humanity you stand on.

About time we let governement know that time to satnd for what is right.

this is : Peace and Love
Jack | 07.08.07 - 4:23 pm | #

carbon tax being pushed by commycrats in dc
driving the wedge to wipe out the economy
Bob Jones | 07.08.07 - 4:20 pm | #

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/ 0...agewanted=print
Bob Jones | 07.08.07 - 4:18 pm | #

its comming down hard and fast, comming down from the east coast democrap states http://www.reuters.com/article/e...&rpc=22& sp=true
Bob Jones | 07.08.07 - 4:08 pm | #

The britts are pomp-pus ass holes
Bob Jones | 07.08.07 - 4:04 pm | #

nwo is moving fast hupnotizing the masses, soon the will be kicken the people ass's
Bob Jones | 07.08.07 - 4:01 pm | #

sorry this bullshit http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/0...n/ 07carbon.html?
Bob Jones | 07.08.07 - 3:54 pm | #

Alex is right, (never Doub't him) Rothchild is a piece of steaming shit, they could't wait to clean up the mess at the world wide nazi concerts to hand us this bullshit, http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.pls
Bob Jones | 07.08.07 - 3:50 pm | #

we will all be soon takeing order from sovern powers not bent on your selfentrest makeing you take there drugs to make your mind numb and commit to there will salves is something i shall never be thi kindom come they will be done a shepperd shalli ever be....we well all belong to the UN soon we will be there dogs, that ill never be
whocares | 07.08.07 - 3:29 pm | #

america is a very fragial system of society if you kil the power were you live enough they will lose lost of money..and if lots of people do it they wont be able to fix the porblem easly..and i mean cut the power by destroy the grids....and emp bomb would be the best but if 1000 of people in different places start cutting there power from its source they will looose lots of money i suggest it happens in the EU to ...sence its all the same global empire
whocares | 07.08.07 - 2:43 pm | #

why hasnt anyone taken out the iluminitee yet, we know its ral we know were they hang out...take them out before they take you out this alq is there cover operateions to destroy britten and the us.....look at whats happening the americas or NAU EU and UN are the 3 headed beast of the bible and the great sation trying to make the world a global empire it wont work we need deversity we cannot be slaves ....we must act now..now now now sooon soon they will come kill us alll or most of us so they can slave the rest to there faulse vision of the world....blow you the skull and bones building if you care blow up the state of liberity if you care its just a fuck you symble anyways....take america back now
whocares | 07.08.07 - 2:37 pm | #

""Britishness does not normally involve snitching or talking about someone," he said."

In other words, I'll decide what you are thinking as British people (despite no substantiation). What next - classify the freedom movement as terrorists and 'snitch' on them....?

Oh, and I do talk about people: Gordon Brown intends to calve England up into regions, all controlled by the EU. The English have no say over matters in England.

"Britishness" means having the right to stick two fingers up at the people telling the British what they are supposed to think!
BG | 07.08.07 - 2:34 pm | #

9/11 was an inside job.

Just thought I'd remind everybody of that.
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Bush is still our President and Cheney still our Vice President. And no official impeachment action has yet been done. The same for a true and unbiased and official look-see into the happenings of 9/11. And the 9/11 Commission Report was a joke and an insult to the American People and justice and those that died on 9/11.

Just thought I'd remind everybody of that also.
jbrid1138 | 07.08.07 - 2:07 pm | #
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Sometimes I do lose focus, but look who just sold this country out:

>>>Michael Ware has completely lost his fucking mind.

He is either preparing Ameica for Hillary to continue the plan to bring the US to bankruptcy by staying in Iraq.

He works for CNN and is now using the Pottey Barn argument, "you broke it, you fix it."

For the past few years he has been criticised as telling the US too much truth about how insane the war is.

Well there will be no more of that criticism because he just had his final MK Ultra session and now is an NWO shill. He was just on CNN talking about how the US has no choice to stay in Iraq and continue dying as we prevent the Iraqis from controlling their own destiny.

He continues to propagatet the idea that Iran is infiltrating and causing the American deaths. It is surreal to watch because in the next sentence he talks about how Al-Qaeda controls many more cities in Iraq.

Since the shia iranians would kill any al-qaeda onsite, and vice-versa, this is a weird argument for someone who has previously worked hard to tell the truth.

In addition he fails to expose the hundreds of bombs that the US special forces use to blow up mosques in an attempt to create more bloodshed.

He continues to ignore the underlying issues and is waving the "stay in Iraq for the next 20 years" flag.

Watch him on CNN and see how he now kisses the asses of the disinfo artists, Anderson Cooper and the generals on the ground who can only tell us the truth when they retire.
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BTW - look at his old reports to see the difference in his new rhetoric.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:14 pm | #

sane,
I fight these Bastards every way I can.
If you only knew what I have done.
If they could prove it, I would go to prison.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 1:03 pm | #
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I am sure there are a million others doing the same, and each fight as they are capable of doing until they are all removed.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:11 pm | #

A Modest Proposal By Jonathan Swift (1729)
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For Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland From Being Aburden to Their Parents or Country, and For Making Them Beneficial to The Public
It is a melancholy object to those who walk through this great town or travel in the country, when they see the streets, the roads, and cabin doors, crowded with beggars of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six children, all in rags and importuning every passenger for an alms. These mothers, instead of being able to work for their honest livelihood, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg sustenance for their helpless infants: who as they grow up either turn thieves for want of work, or leave their dear native country to fight for the Pretender in Spain, or sell themselves to the Barbadoes.

I think it is agreed by all parties that this prodigious number of children in the arms, or on the backs, or at the heels of their mothers, and frequently of their fathers, is in the present deplorable state of the kingdom a very great additional grievance; and, therefore, whoever could find out a fair, cheap, and easy method of making these children sound, useful members of the commonwealth, would deserve so well of the public as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the nation.

But my intention is very far from being confined to provide only for the children of professed beggars; it is of a much greater extent, and shall take in the whole number of infants at a certain age who are born of parents in effect as little able to support them as those who demand our charity in the streets.

As to my own part, having turned my thoughts for many years upon this important subject, and maturely weighed the several schemes of other projectors, I have always found them grossly mistaken in the computation. It is true, a child just dropped from its dam may be supported by her milk for a solar year, with little other nourishment; at most not above the value of 2s., which the mother may certainly get, or the value in scraps, by her lawful occupation of begging; and it is exactly at one year old that I propose to provide for them in such a manner as instead of being a charge upon their parents or the parish, or wanting food and raiment for the rest of their lives, they shall on the contrary contribute to the feeding, and partly to the clothing, of many thousands.

There is likewise another great advantage in my scheme, that it will prevent those voluntary abortions, and that horrid practice of women murdering their bastard children, alas! too frequent among us! sacrificing the poor innocent babes I doubt more to avoid the expense than the shame, which would move tears and pity in the most savage and inhuman breast.

The number of souls in this kingdom being usually reckoned one million and a half, of these I calculate there may be about two hundred thousand couple whose wives are breeders; from which number I subtract thirty thousand couples who are able to maintain their own children, although I apprehend there cannot be so many, under the present distresses of the kingdom; but this being granted, there will remain an hundred and seventy thousand breeders. I again subtract fifty thousand for those women who miscarry, or whose children die by accident or disease within the year. There only remains one hundred and twenty thousand children of poor parents annually born. The question therefore is, how this number shall be reared and provided for, which, as I have already said, under the present situation of affairs, is utterly impossible by all the methods hitherto proposed. For we can neither employ them in handicraft or agriculture; we neither build houses (I mean in the country) nor cultivate land: they can very seldom pick up a livelihood by stealing, till they arrive at six years old, except where they are of towardly parts, although I confess they learn the rudiments much earlier, during which time, they can however be properly looked upon only as probationers, as I have been informed by a principal gentleman in the county of Cavan, who protested to me that he never knew above one or two instances under the age of six, even in a part of the kingdom so renowned for the quickest proficiency in that art.

I am assured by our merchants, that a boy or a girl before twelve years old is no salable commodity; and even when they come to this age they will not yield above three pounds, or three pounds and half-a-crown at most on the exchange; which cannot turn to account either to the parents or kingdom, the charge of nutriment and rags having been at least four times that value.

I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.

I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout.
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A Modest Proposal By Jonathan Swift (1729)
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I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that of the hundred and twenty thousand children already computed, twenty thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one-fourth part to be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle or swine; and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in the sale to the persons of quality and fortune through the kingdom; always advising the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to render them plump and fat for a good table. A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter.

I have reckoned upon a medium that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds, and in a solar year, if tolerably nursed, increaseth to 28 pounds.

I grant this food will be somewhat dear, and therefore very proper for landlords, who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have the best title to the children.

Infant's flesh will be in season throughout the year, but more plentiful in March, and a little before and after; for we are told by a grave author, an eminent French physician, that fish being a prolific diet, there are more children born in Roman Catholic countries about nine months after Lent than at any other season; therefore, reckoning a year after Lent, the markets will be more glutted than usual, because the number of popish infants is at least three to one in this kingdom: and therefore it will have one other collateral advantage, by lessening the number of papists among us.

I have already computed the charge of nursing a beggar's child (in which list I reckon all cottagers, laborers, and four-fifths of the farmers) to be about two shillings per annum, rags included; and I believe no gentleman would repine to give ten shillings for the carcass of a good fat child, which, as I have said, will make four dishes of excellent nutritive meat, when he hath only some particular friend or his own family to dine with him. Thus the squire will learn to be a good landlord, and grow popular among his tenants; the mother will have eight shillings net profit, and be fit for work till she produces another child.

Those who are more thrifty (as I must confess the times require) may flay the carcass; the skin of which artificially dressed will make admirable gloves for ladies, and summer boots for fine gentlemen.

As to our city of Dublin, shambles may be appointed for this purpose in the most convenient parts of it, and butchers we may be assured will not be wanting; although I rather recommend buying the children alive, and dressing them hot from the knife, as we do roasting pigs.

A very worthy person, a true lover of his country, and whose virtues I highly esteem, was lately pleased in discoursing on this matter to offer a refinement upon my scheme. He said that many gentlemen of this kingdom, having of late destroyed their deer, he conceived that the want of venison might be well supplied by the bodies of young lads and maidens, not exceeding fourteen years of age nor under twelve; so great a number of both sexes in every country being now ready to starve for want of work and service; and these to be disposed of by their parents, if alive, or otherwise by their nearest relations. But with due deference to so excellent a friend and so deserving a patriot, I cannot be altogether in his sentiments; for as to the males, my American acquaintance assured me, from frequent experience, that their flesh was generally tough and lean, like that of our schoolboys by continual exercise, and their taste disagreeable; and to fatten them would not answer the charge. Then as to the females, it would, I think, with humble submission be a loss to the public, because they soon would become breeders themselves; and besides, it is not improbable that some scrupulous people might be apt to censure such a practice (although indeed very unjustly), as a little bordering upon cruelty; which, I confess, hath always been with me the strongest objection against any project, however so well intended.

But in order to justify my friend, he confessed that this expedient was put into his head by the famous Psalmanazar, a native of the island Formosa, who came from thence to London above twenty years ago, and in conversation told my friend, that in his country when any young person happened to be put to death, the executioner sold the carcass to persons of quality as a prime dainty; and that in his time the body of a plump girl of fifteen, who was crucified for an attempt to poison the emperor, was sold to his imperial majesty's prime minister of state, and other great mandarins of the court, in joints from the gibbet, at four hundred crowns. Neither indeed can I deny, that if the same use were made of several plump young girls in this town, who without one single groat to their fortunes cannot stir abroad without a chair, and appear at playhouse and assemblies in foreign fineries which they never will pay for, the kingdom would not be the worse.

Some persons of a desponding spirit are in great concern about that vast number of poor people, who are aged, diseased, or maimed, and I have been desired to employ my thoughts what course may be taken to ease the nation of so grievous an encumbrance. But I am not in the least pain upon that matter, because it is very well known that they are every day dying and rotting by cold and famine, and filth and vermin, as fast as can be reasonably expected. And as to the young laborers, they are now in as hopeful a condition; they cannot get work, and consequently pine away for want of nourishment, to a degree that if at any time they are accidentally hired to common labor, they have not strength to perform it; and thus the country and themselves are happily delivered from the evils to come.
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A Modest Proposal By Jonathan Swift (1729)
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I have too long digressed, and therefore shall return to my subject. I think the advantages by the proposal which I have made are obvious and many, as well as of the highest importance.

For first, as I have already observed, it would greatly lessen the number of papists, with whom we are yearly overrun, being the principal breeders of the nation as well as our most dangerous enemies; and who stay at home on purpose with a design to deliver the kingdom to the Pretender, hoping to take their advantage by the absence of so many good protestants, who have chosen rather to leave their country than stay at home and pay tithes against their conscience to an episcopal curate.

Secondly, The poorer tenants will have something valuable of their own, which by law may be made liable to distress and help to pay their landlord's rent, their corn and cattle being already seized, and money a thing unknown.

Thirdly, Whereas the maintenance of an hundred thousand children, from two years old and upward, cannot be computed at less than ten shillings a-piece per annum, the nation's stock will be thereby increased fifty thousand pounds per annum, beside the profit of a new dish introduced to the tables of all gentlemen of fortune in the kingdom who have any refinement in taste. And the money will circulate among ourselves, the goods being entirely of our own growth and manufacture.

Fourthly, The constant breeders, beside the gain of eight shillings sterling per annum by the sale of their children, will be rid of the charge of maintaining them after the first year.

Fifthly, This food would likewise bring great custom to taverns; where the vintners will certainly be so prudent as to procure the best receipts for dressing it to perfection, and consequently have their houses frequented by all the fine gentlemen, who justly value themselves upon their knowledge in good eating: and a skilful cook, who understands how to oblige his guests, will contrive to make it as expensive as they please.

Sixthly, This would be a great inducement to marriage, which all wise nations have either encouraged by rewards or enforced by laws and penalties. It would increase the care and tenderness of mothers toward their children, when they were sure of a settlement for life to the poor babes, provided in some sort by the public, to their annual profit instead of expense. We should see an honest emulation among the married women, which of them could bring the fattest child to the market. Men would become as fond of their wives during the time of their pregnancy as they are now of their mares in foal, their cows in calf, their sows when they are ready to farrow; nor offer to beat or kick them (as is too frequent a practice) for fear of a miscarriage.

Many other advantages might be enumerated. For instance, the addition of some thousand carcasses in our exportation of barreled beef, the propagation of swine's flesh, and improvement in the art of making good bacon, so much wanted among us by the great destruction of pigs, too frequent at our tables; which are no way comparable in taste or magnificence to a well-grown, fat, yearling child, which roasted whole will make a considerable figure at a lord mayor's feast or any other public entertainment. But this and many others I omit, being studious of brevity.

Supposing that one thousand families in this city, would be constant customers for infants flesh, besides others who might have it at merry meetings, particularly at weddings and christenings, I compute that Dublin would take off annually about twenty thousand carcasses; and the rest of the kingdom (where probably they will be sold somewhat cheaper) the remaining eighty thousand.

I can think of no one objection, that will possibly be raised against this proposal, unless it should be urged, that the number of people will be thereby much lessened in the kingdom. This I freely own, and 'twas indeed one principal design in offering it to the world. I desire the reader will observe, that I calculate my remedy for this one individual Kingdom of Ireland, and for no other that ever was, is, or, I think, ever can be upon Earth. Therefore let no man talk to me of other expedients: Of taxing our absentees at five shillings a pound: Of using neither cloaths, nor houshold furniture, except what is of our own growth and manufacture: Of utterly rejecting the materials and instruments that promote foreign luxury: Of curing the expensiveness of pride, vanity, idleness, and gaming in our women: Of introducing a vein of parsimony, prudence and temperance: Of learning to love our country, wherein we differ even from Laplanders, and the inhabitants of Topinamboo: Of quitting our animosities and factions, nor acting any longer like the Jews, who were murdering one another at the very moment their city was taken: Of being a little cautious not to sell our country and consciences for nothing: Of teaching landlords to have at least one degree of mercy towards their tenants. Lastly, of putting a spirit of honesty, industry, and skill into our shop-keepers, who, if a resolution could now be taken to buy only our native goods, would immediately unite to cheat and exact upon us in the price, the measure, and the goodness, nor could ever yet be brought to make one fair proposal of just dealing, though often and earnestly invited to it.

Therefore I repeat, let no man talk to me of these and the like expedients, 'till he hath at least some glympse of hope, that there will ever be some hearty and sincere attempt to put them into practice.

But, as to my self, having been wearied out for many years with offering vain, idle, visionary thoughts, and at length utterly despairing of success, I fortunately fell upon this proposal, which, as it is wholly new, so it hath something solid and real, of no expence and little trouble, full in our own power, and whereby we can incur no danger in disobliging England. For this kind of commodity will not bear exportation, and flesh being of too tender a consistence, to admit a long continuance in salt, although perhaps I could name a country, which would be glad to eat up our whole nation without it.

After all, I am not so violently bent upon my own opinion as to reject any offer proposed by wise men, which shall be found equally innocent, cheap, easy, and effectual. But before something of that kind shall be advanced in contradiction to my scheme, and offering a better, I desire the author or authors will be pleased maturely to consider two points. First, as things now stand, how they will be able to find food and raiment for an hundred thousand useless mouths and backs. And secondly, there being a round million of creatures in human figure throughout this kingdom, whose whole subsistence put into a common stock would leave them in debt two millions of pounds sterling, adding those who are beggars by profession to the bulk of farmers, cottagers, and laborers, with their wives and children who are beggars in effect: I desire those politicians who dislike my overture, and may perhaps be so bold as to attempt an answer, that they will first ask the parents of these mortals, whether they would not at this day think it a great happiness to have been sold for food, at a year old in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortunes as they have since gone through by the oppression of landlords, the impossibility of paying rent without money or trade, the want of common sustenance, with neither house nor clothes to cover them from the inclemencies of the weather, and the most inevitable prospect of entailing the like or greater miseries upon their breed for ever.

I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my country, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing. THE END
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sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:09 pm | #

Here is more ammo to deal with the NWO BS population control nonsense...
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:08 pm | #

sane,
I fight these Bastards every way I can.
If you only knew what I have done.
If they could prove it, I would go to prison.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 1:03 pm | #

sane,
Now I have to admit I was just fucking with you.
Man, I hate the Bastards and will fight these control freaks to the death.
Death to the New World Order!!
I love ya sane.
Never give up your guns.
This can and will be a better world when we defeat these Bastards!
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 1:00 pm | #

I can go Hawaii or London for a weekend if i choose to do so.
Who made that possible?
I do not want to kill the hand that feeds me.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:50 pm | #
_________________________

You are a nice tame slave aren't you?

Keep saying that as Rothschild has your entire comunity put into a Halliburton/Cheney death camp.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:55 pm | #

sane,
Have you not a had a good life?
You can always go to the wilds of Africa and live in the wilderness if you choose to do so.
I prefer a nice home, a nice cabin cruiser and food.
What do you want?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:40 pm | #
_______________________________

I want to continue fighting the number one cause of selite support by the masses - deception. So I continue to do my small and mostly insignificant part in that struggle by correcting the lies and requesting that others ask tough questions of the people that do not believe they need to answer them.

I am not cutting and running like Halliburton.

I am not in any way shape or form giving any credibility to the outright lie that Rothschild are anything less than elitist murdering used car salesment who try to promote worldwide slavery.

Here is a Rothschild in the raw:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:54 pm | #

I can go Hawaii or London for a weekend if i choose to do so.
Who made that possible?
I do not want to kill the hand that feeds me.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:50 pm | #

You can always go live in the wilderness and get eaten by bugs.
If you get an infection, no Doctors.
You have to give if you are going to take.
What do you want?
Go and do it.
How do you have the ability to communally respond to me?
Not in the trees.
It's your choice.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:45 pm | #

sane,
You hate the Rothschild's? You hate the Rockefeller's?
They have given you a blessed life.
The best life that any Human could hope to live.
All they ask is to help support their vision for the Planet.
What is the alternative?
A hunter gather life?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:29 pm | #
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You cannot possibly be fucking serious.

They killed hundreds if not thousands of my relatives. And their vision is total control and plying war games like....

Let's let the Germans be rulers this year, not let's let France be rulerts, isn't this fun???

And in the process millions get slaughtered.

Ooooh we should all bow to the consientious Lord Rothschid.

C'mon that was a joke right?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:39 pm | #

Who has given you the BLESSED LIFE that you have?
The POWERS THAT BE !!
The Illuminati!
And you want to kill the people that have given you the best life on earth!
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:22 pm | #
_______________________________

I want to stop the dependency on the church and her agents the illuminat, the freemasons, the scottish rite, knights of malta, etc.

They gave me nothing, they attempted to enslave me before I was born and the constitution held them back.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:36 pm | #

sane,
over half the population of the world does not have enough food to eat.
You see the World in the U.S. that the Illuminati has built for you.
That is not the real world, Bud.
Wake up! Wake the FUCK UP !!
You are an uneducated person that has a closed mind that I will bet a years salary, you have never been hungary and have never seen the real world.
I feel sorry for you.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:14 pm | #
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Do you ever wonder why?

Do you realize what is causing this?

Have you ever looked past "what illuminati is telling you?"

Do you think Bush's family has a hard time eating?

Do you think that if we stopped supporting the criminals in Africa then maybe this number would move to 25%?

Do you actually know the causes of poverty?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:34 pm | #

sane,
Are you there?
What is your answer?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:30 pm | #

Who has given you the BLESSED LIFE that you have?
The POWERS THAT BE !!
The Illuminati!
And you want to kill the people that have given you the best life on earth!
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:22 pm | #

You keep trying to tell me what other people are telling you .
Do you not have your own mind?
What would you do?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:08 pm | #
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Dude, I doubt you will find another soul on the planet that has written the words in my posts.

Oh man, just like Jonathon Swift predicted, when confronting the population control issue logic will cease and personal attacks will flourish.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:13 pm | #

sane, For the love of God, look at this in a reality manner. Stop telling me what someone else has said. Can you speak for yourself? Would you let you family suffer? Would you let your Child die a horrible death? Do you want to starve to death? You Damn well may. Answer my question! What would you as the leader of the world do to stop the suffering of humanity?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:02 pm | #
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Please elaborate...who exactly is starving????

Who is suffering????

How is this not an extention of NWO elites???

Who's words am I using if not mine?

After NAFTA, poverty in Mexico rose by 500%, child mortality rate in both their and our country rose.

Please tell me who is killing our children because it ain't the planet's scarcity of resources.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:09 pm | #

I don't care if 95% of the planet is not inhabited.
How many people can the World support.
You keep trying to tell me what other people are telling you .
Do you not have your own mind?
What would you do?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:08 pm | #

Forgetting the fact that I do not believe the world works this way
sane
_____________________________ As I have before-- you are not not looking at the world in a reality since.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:57 am | #
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Au contraire...I used to think population control was very necessary and the most immediate threat to the world's survival...then I woke up and saw the real threat:

go here, zoom in and find out that 95% of the planet is not inhabited:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&...60&t=k&z=2& om=1
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:05 pm | #

The over population of this world is KILLING our planet.
We are destroying our own home.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 12:05 pm | #

Why all th e silence people?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:49 am | #

they are here:

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...aderComments42/
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 11:57 am | #

If I have 5 people living on an acre of land that will only support 4 people, do I kill one?
I would do that.
But I would say let the oldest die of natural causes and not replace that person.
I would have only the two most supportive survive and replace their genes with one Child.
Then all will prosper.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:40 am | #

If I can not feed a child, why would I bring that child into being?
To watch my Child suffer and die a horrible death?
Why would I do that?
I am 56 years old and have never had a child.
I do not want to bring a Human into this world.
We as the human race must control our world for the benefit of all.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:35 am | #

sane,
You are not even talking in rational terms here.
Do you want to let everyone on the boat?
Look, just do not have more Children than WE as a people can support.
If I can not feed a child, why would I bring that child into being?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:30 am | #
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Forgetting the fact that I do not believe the world works this way [i.e. it is a scarcity argument...what farm cannot support 5 people?]:

Why is it that you feel that this is such an important family for our generation?

Our generational moral dilemma has to do with elitest power not population control.

Your choice to have a child is your own and should be respected as much as onone else's choice to have 10 children. If they can afford it, great.

In addition and as a general note the same arguments you are using:

farm needs to kill one because it can only feed 4

boat needs to drown 5 because it can only fit 10 of the 15

etc.

can always be attacked wioth the corralaries:

farm needs 10 people becuse 5 is too little to harvest the food necessary for at least 4 people.

boat needs at least 20 to man becuse with 10, it will never be able to weather the storm, etc.

My random assumptions come from the same place as yours...thin air.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 11:55 am | #

Why all th e silence people?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:49 am | #

I must say and I have to admit that I have studied this for many years.
I have looked at this from all directions.
We as Humans must survive as Humans.
Is everything pretty?
No it's not!
Is it needed?
I ask you.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:48 am | #

If I can not feed a child, why would I bring that child into being?
To watch my Child suffer and die a horrible death?
Why would I do that?
I am 56 years old and have never had a child.
I do not want to bring a Human into this world.
We as the human race must control our world for the benefit of all.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:35 am | #

sane,
You are not even talking in rational terms here.
Do you want to let everyone on the boat?
Look, just do not have more Children than WE as a people can support.
If I can not feed a child, why would I bring that child into being?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:30 am | #

We must control the population of this planet, or we all suffer and die.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:26 am | #
______________________________

I am sorry to say, but how is that logical?

If we end up being too many, than we all instantly die?????

How can this possibly be true?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 11:30 am | #

Do we just run headlong into a brick wall?
Or do we just let the boat get so crowded that it sinks and we all die?
The boat will only float with so many people.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:21 am | #
_______________________________

Again, #1 I do not agree with you.

#2 how much is too much, if you recommend that only 2 people be on a boat when it will fit 20-leaving 18 to die [like those on the titanic] then I question where you are getting your information.

Until we rid ourselves of the criminals, there will be no unbiased report on this and it is just as invalid a "clear and present danger" now as it was 600 years ago.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 11:26 am | #

Look, all I am saying is people have the God given right to pass on their genes.
People should be able to replace themselves.
But if that Child dies of natural causes? That is the way of Nature.
We must control the population of this planet, or we all suffer and die.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:26 am | #

colonizing other friendly planets may be possible
__________________
I absolutely agree with you on that fact!
But as of now We can't do that.
How do We get there if all of our resources are spent on the sustaining a world of people that can not support themselves?
Help me to understand this.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:17 am | #
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No problem, it is my belief that we need to first rid ourselves of central power before we can address these issues.

Since we now have an open source of communication, there actually is so much less of a need of central power.

So put the power in local hands and have them accountable for their own resources.

That is just a start and the most important issue facing our planet because these guys are not hesitant about pressing the red button as power has completely removed rational thought from their activities.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 11:23 am | #

Do we just run headlong into a brick wall?
Or do we just let the boat get so crowded that it sinks and we all die?
The boat will only float with so many people.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:21 am | #

And who decides how many?

Who decides who lives and who dies?
______________ that is my question to you sane!!
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:18 am | #

Anon I think we are missing the fun on 42
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 11:17 am | #

If I have a heard of sheep and only have so much grass to feed them, how do you make the choice which ones to put down?
Do you let them all starve or do you select the most productive ones and have a better heard?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:10 am | #
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C'mon man, sheep? Please pick a better analogy.

And who decides how many?

Who decides who lives and who dies?

If there are more localized powers, these decisions to deal with their area of resources will be theirs and not foreign elite rulers.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 11:14 am | #

I am a pompous dickhead.
______________
Yea, but I love ya anyway.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:14 am | #

But I do see the collapse of the human race if it continues on the present course.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:03 am | #

_____________________

I know you are not against me, it is just that I am a pompous dickhead.

But imagine that the theories of human race collapse have been written by the same elites who want to also convince us that NWO is the answer to all of our problems.

Look with your own eyes at what is available in the world.

I believe this planet will need to start addressing that prtoblem when maybe there are 100,000 Trillion on the planet which we are far from.

By that time, perhaps colonizing other friendly planets may be possible [if we do not do it already].

But if you still think that long term population stabilization [not the NWO word, "control"] is necessary to study, I would recommend looking into what creates population explosions. As far as I can see the papal's and thus the elites' mandates against contraceptions might be a good starting place.

And I guess that might have been your point and sorry for adhering to my nature of attacking before listening to the entire argument.

I just want to make sure everyone knows that this argument has been used by elites for at least 600 years to justify worldwide bloodshed.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 11:12 am | #

Only so many people can live in a house.
Only so many people can live on this planet.
That is a fact!
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:11 am | #

You are not answering my question.
How do we as people survive?
Do not come with your " it isn't right"
How do we survive?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:00 am | #
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Survive what exactly?

What are the threats to our survival that you believe need addressing via population control?

Another plan from NWO is to convince all the educated non-elites to engage in personal population control to bring about the future seen in the Mike Judge movie, Idiocracy. Watch that movie then ask why it was minimally marketed and how easy it would be to control that population.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 11:04 am | #

sane.
I am not against you.
I am looking at this with an open mind.
But I do see the collapse of the human race if it continues on the present course.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:03 am | #

Are the masses causing that or the elites?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 10:57 am | #
__________________________________________________ _____
You are not answering my question.
How do we as people survive?
Do not come with your " it isn't right"
How do we survive?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 11:00 am | #

If I have a heard of sheep and only have so much grass to feed them, how do you make the choice which ones to put down?
Do you let them all starve or do you select the most productive ones and have a better heard?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:54 am | #
_______________________________

Scarcity argument we were taught to believe from cradle to grave, it is absurd, false, and has no reality to it.

Go on Google Earth and see how much land and resources there are on this planet. The scarcity argument is a LIE!
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 10:58 am | #

It was invalid then and it is invalid now.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 10:46 am | #
__________________________________________________ ______
How is it invalided sane?
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:50 am | #

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Uh how is it valid??

Just because NWO trains us to think that resources are scarce does not make it so.

The genocide of the worldwide farmers does not create more food.

The chemtrails in the sky does not create more breathable air.

The oil spills in the ocean does not create more water.

Are the masses causing that or the elites?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 10:57 am | #

I must admit that in a lot of way's I agree with the Illuminati way of thinking.
We as a race must control the expansion of people.
But not in a cruel way!
The planet can only support so many people.
But We need to do this in a humane manner.
There are ways to do this the right way.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:42 am | #
________________________

I must admit that this argument has been used byy the illuminati when there were less than 300 million humans on the planet.

It was invalid then and it is invalid now.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 10:46 am | #

http://conspiracyrealitytv.com/c...cy-confessions/
Watch it.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:37 am | #

Rabbit hole, Blue pill, what ever.
It is all the same thing.
The Evil powers of this world will kill you so their family's have it all.
That is the goal.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:35 am | #

Rob O'Loughlin ,
The people that are fighting for the Illuminati do believe that they are fighting for the American way.
And in a way they are, Energy is power.
If the American Illuminati control the worlds power, they control the world.
That is their goal!
Welcome to the real world.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:33 am | #

Iraq and Afghanistan... its just outright mass murder of civilians now isn't it? How do these soldiers, sailors and airmen live with what they do?
Are the entire armed forces, Gestapo and SS completely mind controlled zombies. You are all writing yourself OUT of the book of life... forever.
Rob O'Loughlin | 07.08.07 - 10:28 am | #

The Muslims know what is going on and they have most of the worlds energy.
If you control the energy, you control the Worlds economy.
It is really simple, wake up!
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:28 am | #

Rob O'Loughlin,
The only reason the the powers that be want to attack Iran is that they are not and refuse to become a part of the International Banking System.
They are fighting the Illuminati.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:25 am | #

All the performers flying in to promote scaring the crap out of you about your families future if you don't join the cause,is like telling your kids not to smoke and than blowing smoke in their face."Climate Crisis"? Should be:"Chemtrail Crisis"
Eddie | 07.08.07 - 10:23 am | #

"No way, no how should Iran be a nuclear power," he said (Julie)
No way no how should the US be a nuclear power as they can't wait to drop them!
Iran is is non issue!
Rob O'Loughlin | 07.08.07 - 10:18 am | #

John F. Kennedy's father said:
50 men run America, and that's a high figure.

I say Hang the Bastards.
That is why they want a Police State America.
To protect themselves from us " U.S."
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:18 am | #

If WE as a people do not take our Government back, we have lost it.
Fuck the IRS and fuck the Bush Cabal.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:13 am | #

Inform on others! OK ....Bliar, Bush, Brown, Cameron.... what you aren't going to do anything??? What a crock. I could stop terrorism in Britain inside a week! You politicians are total scum. When you are all in your underground cities cowering.... we will come and destroy you if not before.
Rob O'Loughlin | 07.08.07 - 10:13 am | #

I will pay no income taxes, EVER!!!
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:07 am | #

The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over City, State, and nation... It seizes in its long and powerful tentacles our executive officers, our legislative bodies, our schools, our courts, our newspapers, and every agency created for the public protection..."

"To depart from mere generalisations, let me say that at the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller-Standard Oil interest and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as the international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes."

"They practically control both parties, write political platforms, make catspaws of party leaders, use the leading men of private organisations, and resort to every device to place in nomination for high public office only such candidates as will be amenable to the dictates of corrupt big business..."

"These international bankers and Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country. They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government...."

This "invisible government", Hylan and others argued, exercised its control of the US Government through the Federal Reserve.

John F. Hylan
Mayor of New York 1918-1925
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 10:03 am | #

Just because I am a pompous dick head
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 9:51 am | #
__________________________________________________ _
Well hell sane, we all know that.
But we love ya anyway.
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 9:58 am | #
_________________________

To know the world is entrancing, to know thyself is sublime.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 9:59 am | #

i think sane looks cool riding his high horse
baldmanace | 07.08.07 - 9:58 am | #

Since I have entered Politics, I have men's views confided to me privately.
Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture are afraid of something.
They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not
speak of ot above their breath when they speak in comdemnation of it.
I have unwittingly ruined my Country.
A great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit.
Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men.
We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world.
No longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of
small groups of dominate men.

Woodrow Wilson 1913:
Anonymous | 07.08.07 - 9:55 am | #

Sane, get off your high horse and quit being so smug. Ok, so global warming is a hoax...so?Jesus, i hate people who think they have the right to tell other people what to do, simply becuase trhey don't like what the person is saying or speaking about.Americans are a bunch of fascists, no wonder God is rejecting us.
jake | 07.08.07 - 9:42 am | #
_____________________________

Just because I am a pompous dickhead does not justify that comment.

My methods ar harsh and raw, and I apologize for preaching what gndhi, jesus, and mlk said without following their methods, but geez think about your arguments.

and it is becomming more and more obvious to all of us how much god loves this country and is assisting all of us in waking up and seeing the truth.

BTW - want to know how to clean up the government?

Take a lesson from Spain and Argentina:

http://video.google.com/ videopla...591910224149865

http://video.google.com/ videopla...453033984487696

Argentina: When the people had enough, they clened out the US dictatorial government theough 4 separate removals in a matter of days.

Impeach Bush/Cheney...

If Pelosi acts up, impeach her, continue down the line until we get public SERVENTS not public elites.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 9:51 am | #

jake
there are source materials and background research on every person and every piece of information in the global warming warming scam
UNCED
grobachev
iron mountain
behind the green curtain
sustainable developement
international biosphere
eugenics

go and google barbara marx hubbard

read what she says and then research all the real plans behind their environmental agenda

it is about population control, slavery, control, money and greed

it puts the criminal elite into a position of ultimate power
and they can spin any situation into a global warming web of deceit

the new age thing is a false god, and if you reject Christ for it
then you have been deceived and you are mind controlled by banksters

pursue the things you can do to live a pure life

but if you give over your will and volition to a cause that is satanic at its foundation

you will find yourself turning against people (for disposal!!!!!!!!!) to supposedly "SAVE" the planet??????????????????????????????

so ask the leaders of the movement:

1. how long before the planet crumbles under the environmental threat at current supposed rates of global and environmental impacts?

2. who is going to be selected for depopulation and what is the criteria for the upper class who will rule the lower class when the world is depopulated by (in their own words) HALF! or more

3. what are the possible global impacts of multi billions of dead bodies and the cremations and disposals of multi billions of these bodies

4. when it is all said and done and the worlds population has gotten rid of anyone who does not buy into the nwo deception, everyone will be fully decieved by the criminal elite, they will rule over the remainder of the world in a? eutopia? describe for me your idea of eutopia, because my question is? what is these elitists grande design for this eutopia of population control, global saviorization, and despotism?

there are many more questions and so many answers both scientifically and common sensically,
that if you have bought into the faux globalist environmental scam THEN you are the most gullible of the most gullible people in the history of the world
it represents that you want the problem, you need the problem, you justify the problem and you will promote the problem
BECAUSE
that is exactly what you are being mind controlled to do
baldmanace | 07.08.07 - 9:49 am | #

Sane, i am in the right place because without people like me, all you would have are a bunch of creepy yes-people; preaching to the choir so to speaK
tRY TOLERANCE ONCE IN AWAHILE...IT CAN BE GOOD FOR THE SOUL.
jake | 07.08.07 - 9:45 am | #

I like Alex Jones and what he is doing but i don't listen to him for his scientific expertise; i listen to him becasue he is a rabble rouser of the first order, a true muck-raking idealist...but a scientists he ain't.
jake | 07.08.07 - 9:37 am | #
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Dude, you are in the wong place, we read here. Go to a site where shallow accusations with no foundation actually convince people.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 9:39 am | #

I notice that when someone wants to debunk the theory of global warming, they never deal with the very real issues of the loss of the polar caps, desertification, deforestation, loss of animal species, mean average sea levels rising.
If it isn't global warming, what do you think is causing these very observable and demonstable effects?
I have read two National Geographic magazines devoted to the subject of global warming.
I have read accounts in the foreign press, European and Asian, with a consensus of most of the world's leading scientists, as to the validity of the theory.
It is discussed at length on the website for the NOAA.
But one guy with a keyboard knows more than all these scientists that are actually studying the matter.
Believe what you want...
It is not important to me what you think....
jake | 07.08.07 - 9:17 am | #
___________________________

I noticed that the global warning apologists never answer the really tough quesions like...

Let us say consumption is a cause for global warning...

Why will Madonna not submit her carbon footprint, but supports all of us being taxed on it?

Do you really think that Monsanto, Halliburton, GE, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin are going to get taxed one carbon cent? ...the taxes and invvasions of privacy are for the barbarians, not the elites.

How do you blame car pollution when one nuclear test damages the ozone more than 10 years of every human on the planet driving a hummer every day for 100 miles?

If you really wanted to control consumption and polution, did you know that rothschild/rockefeller/shultz/buffett could reduce the world carbon footprint by 50% in one day?

This is besides the obvious question of...

How do you explain that other planets are also getting warmer, does our use of lightbulbs affect Saturn?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 9:37 am | #

Yawn.
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God
"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Gutteral utterances.

The Military Oath

The Commissioning Oath

"I, _____ , having been appointed an officer in the (Service) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)
Sounds familiar, but then again rhetoric is.
The integrity of our elected officals and military brass is smothering me.
chris jones | 07.08.07 - 8:56 am | #

A new priest at his first mass was so nervous he could hardly speak.

After mass he asked the monsignor how he had done.

The monsignor replied, "When I am worried about getting nervous on the pulpit, I put a glass of vodka next to the water glass. if I start to get nervous, I take a sip."

So next Sunday he took the monsignor's advice. At the beginning of the sermon, he got nervous and took a drink. He proceeded to talk up a storm.

Upon his return to his office after mass, he found the following note on the door:
1. Sip the Vodka, don't gulp.
2. There are 10 commandments, not 12.
3. There are 12 disciples, not 10.
4. Jesus was consecrated, not constipated.
5. Jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass.
6. We do not refer to Jesus Christ as the late J. C.
7. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not referred to as Daddy, Junior and the Spook.
8. David slew Goliath, he did not kick the shit out of him.
9. When David was hit by a rock and was knocked off his donkey,don't say he was stoned off his ass.
10. We do not refer to the cross as the "Big T."
11. When Jesus broke the bread at the Last Supper he said, "Take this and eat it for it is my body." He did not say "Eat me"
12. The Virgin Mary is not called "Mary with the Cherry,"
13. The recommended grace before a meal is not: Rub-A-Dub-Dub thanks for the grub, yeah God.
14. Next Sunday there will be a taffy pulling contest at St. Peter's, not a Peter pulling contest at St. Taffy's!
Sees Things | 07.08.07 - 7:41 am | #

and if you were listening and paying attention to the debate between the rothschild punk and alex jones.. Rothschild attempts to dismiss solar-system wide global warming by claiming that Mars, Saturn and Jupiter are closer to the Sun than earth. his tactics in this so called debate: use that "reasonable british accent" and ask question after question after question then attack alex claiming he didnt answer the question. alex in no way got "owned", rothschild showed himself as a tactician for unfair debating. the punk is smart and evil both, and VERY manipulative. but remember one thing ..Rothschild attempt to dismiss solar-system wide global warming by claiming that Saturn and Jupiter are closer to the Sun than earth is a blatant falsehood, so obvious that if you believe ANYTHING he says after that youre a complete fool.
Sees Things | 07.08.07 - 7:37 am | #

Global warming is indeed a reality because scientists are measuring the loss of icecaps at both polls, measuring the increase in the overall temperature of the sea, which is causing reefs to die, among other things; they are measuring the increased desertification of more of the planet, observing the disruption in weather patterns and in the seasonal migratory habits of animals.

Check your facts, man, or show us the respect of not posting your disinformation.
jake | 07.08.07 - 4:48 am | #

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when I was a kid and this is a VERY short time compared to the lifetime of this planet.. the big scare was GLOBAL COOLING, the new ice age is coming the ice age is coming! ok jake?
Sees Things | 07.08.07 - 7:25 am | #

Believe what you want 'cause i don't have to prove a f**king thing to you. But my money is on nature setting things right again, put mankind in its place once and for all. Our lifestyle has poisoned the planet so now the planet will poison our lifestyle.
jake | 07.08.07 - 5:33 am | #

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This is all nucking futs.

The indian holy men cal what has begun as the "Great Cleansing"
Much of human kind will kill itself
but the earth has begun a period of earth changes, volcanic and tectonic activity unseen in recorded history.
Sunami, great volcanic explosions and huge earth quakes that will be off the scale
For interesting reading try Immanuel Velikovski
Worlds in Collision or Ages in Chaos.......
Michael D. | 07.08.07 - 6:15 am | #

GAK--
R you being intentionally dense about this or what?

Global warming issues have appeared on at least two front covers of National Geographic magazine that i have read. There are web sites all over the net, just type in global warming on Google and spend some time reading. Or go to the science page of truthout.com, which is where i get alot of my info.
i am not pushing any agenda, but to say that over a hundred years of industrial pollution and waste, massive carbon monoxide emmissions, deforestation, especially of equatorial rainforests, desertification(look at the temperatures for most of the US), dying and dead reefs in Australia, the Mariannas, northern Hawaiian archipelago, to mention a few, dying species of animals, birds, insects and sea creatures, the increased frequency and size of hurricanes....it is nuts to say all that is going on in the degradation of the planet is not happening at all, just some political hoax.
Yeah, right...

Believe what you want 'cause i don't have to prove a f**king thing to you. But my money is on nature setting things right again, put mankind in its place once and for all. Our lifestyle has poisoned the planet so now the planet will poison our lifestyle.
jake | 07.08.07 - 5:33 am | #

This is all nucking futs.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.08.07 - 5:07 am | #

I mean dude. Fuck. Dude.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.08.07 - 5:05 am | #

Jake. You are probably right about the "dont worry be happy" dude.
However. Melting ice caps? Is that all you got?
How about just calculating thermometer levels? Sounds a bit more scientific than making shit up.
PROVE GLOBAL WARMING, SPANKY.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.08.07 - 5:04 am | #

that should be:
measuring the loss of icecaps at both POLES.

mea culpa
jake | 07.08.07 - 4:49 am | #

GAK---ain't you just a sack of misinformation tonight.

Bobby McFerrin is the singer who wrote, "don't worry, be happy" for the soundtrack of the Tom Cruise movie, "Cocktail." He is alive and well and teaching music at the Omega Institute in NYC.

Global warming is indeed a reality because scientists are measuring the loss of icecaps at both polls, measuring the increase in the overall temperature of the sea, which is causing reefs to die, among other things; they are measuring the increased desertification of more of the planet, observing the disruption in weather patterns and in the seasonal migratory habits of animals.

Check your facts, man, or show us the respect of not posting your disinformation.
jake | 07.08.07 - 4:48 am | #

GAK:

http://www.snopes.com/music/arti...ts/ mcferrin.asp
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 2:45 am | #

"million'th council"?
Overlap?
Billy | 07.08.07 - 2:05 am | #

FYI. The guy who sang "don't worry be happy" committed suicide.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.08.07 - 2:04 am | #

US and UK are killing ten times more civilians than any Al Qaeda in the world! So who's the real threat? And yet, the world remains silent...
CNN was ranting for whole week about masquarade events in London and Glasgow where no one got hurt, yet they barely mentioned hundreds of dead civilians in Afghan and Iraq. Same thing happened in my country in 1999. Democracy? No, thank you.
Lazar Gorenc | 07.08.07 - 1:52 am | #

Roger Waters and band did a killer job today on Live Earth. I really wish he would reconcile with the original bandmates.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.08.07 - 1:32 am | #

Cockroach Controlled Mobile Robot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:17 am | #

Scalable Learning and Inference in Hierarchical Models of the Neocortex
http://video.google.com/ videopla...275382500312900
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:13 am | #

I miss my cat, oh well I can just go to Wal-Mart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 1:13 am | #

So wheres all the crew tonight? The pub?
Gabriel Alan King | 07.08.07 - 12:40 am | #

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Been sleeping for 3 hours. Thinkin' about it........
Michael D. | 07.08.07 - 1:08 am | #

3d google

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...related& search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...related& search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:42 am | #

So wheres all the crew tonight? The pub?
Gabriel Alan King | 07.08.07 - 12:40 am | #

Cool, we have better surveillance tewchnology than our troops in iraq

http://video.google.com/ videopla...467158219683667

http://video.google.com/ videopla...668728353654549

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...related& search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...related& search=
(pretty sure they will not do this for Iraq)
Crisis in Darfur, enables people to visualize and better understand the genocide currently unfolding in Darfur. The Museum has assembled content—photographs, data and eyewitness testimony—from a number of sources that are brought together for the first time in Google Earth. This information appears as a Global Awareness layer in Google Earth.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:35 am | #

There is no scientific proof of global warming. And so why are we having rock concerts for it? Hey, good musicians, lots of fun, but global warming is a myth.
Just watch the thermometer and log the dates yearly.
There ain't no fucking warming.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.08.07 - 12:28 am | #

Live Earth is promoting green to save the planet - what planet are they on?
Last updated at 15:42pm on 7th July 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ pages...in_page_id=1879
Comments (7)
As Madonna bounds on to the huge Wembley stage to save the planet, how the assembled Greenies will cheer.

The superstar is today fronting the massive Live Earth event, with nine concerts played over 24 hours across seven continents before an audience of two billion.

The much-hyped bid to save the world is being masterminded by former U.S. vice president Al Gore - who helped focus attention on the environmental movement with his Oscar-winning film, An Inconvenient Truth - and features artists including The Police, Red Hot Chili Peppers, UB40 and Metallica.

No doubt to rapturous applause, Madonna will call for mass global change to reduce carbon emissions and to tackle 'climate crisis'.

Watching the veteran star lap up the adoration, her entourage could, however, be forgiven for exchanging slightly jaded glances - having witnessed her jet in for the concert from New York.

For her 2006 World Tour, she flew by private jet, transporting a team of up to 100 technicians and dancers around the globe. Waiting in the garage at home, she has a Mercedes Maybach, two Range Rovers, an Audi A8 and a Mini Cooper S.
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:27 am | #

I posted a couple comments of the church of Satan website. I am not trying to make enemies. Only reason with folks and try to find a common ground. They haven't xnayed me yet, but soon they probably will. I even told them I was Christian. You guys should register to and post comments.
I ain't afraid of jack fucking shit.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.08.07 - 12:26 am | #

GAK - don't you think her comment might have been sarcastic enough to get under the screeners radar, but allows anyone to hear the interview for themselves?
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:26 am | #

Suck on my junk, bitch.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.08.07 - 12:18 am | #

http://showbizblog.ctv.ca/blog/ _...ml#post_comment
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Re: Live Earth: Blogging all weekend long
by elms321 on Sat 07 Jul 2007 03:21 AM EDT | Permanent Link
dont you think if they didnt put on these massive concerts that consume million watts of power, we would be more environmental friendly?!?! how can these ppl think putting on these concerts are good for the environment??! we are just using even more power! how does that make sense?!
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Gotta love live earth blogging
sane | Homepage | 07.08.07 - 12:15 am | #

hahahahahahahahaha
http://climateprogress.org/2007/...-hear/ #comments

Post away guys...

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katrina Says:
July 7th, 2007 at 11:21 pm

LoL some nutty global warming denier gets totally pwned by Mayor Rothchild that gave up important pre-concert time - his family is sopnsoring the entire event, sacrificing hundreds of millions on promoting the event so that the Earth can be saved

http://prisonplanet.com/audio/ 06...7rothschild.mp3

Those deniers need to wake up and take care of the children!
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sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 11:39 pm | #

Sorry, that link was fux0red ... okay, this is the right one--the ex-cop one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...related& search=
Free | 07.07.07 - 11:24 pm | #

Ex-cop tells the truth about how police are addicted to adrenal highs and how they hope for friction with the public.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...related& search=
Free | 07.07.07 - 11:22 pm | #

Tribes Stockpile Weapons, Driving up Prices
Report: Arming of Anti-Qa'ida Tribes Sparks Arms Race Among Anbar Clansmen
Posted 16 hr. 59 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...iving_up_Prices
Photo by Mohammad Khodor/AFP.
A Kalashnikov is raised at the funeral of Sheikh Kamal Shakur, the head of Falluja city council in Feb. 2005.
Tribes in western Iraq, and in and around Anbar province specifically, have begun stockpiling different sorts of weapons, driving up the prices of weapons in the Iraqi market, al-Malaf Press reports in Arabic.

The agency writes that the alleged tribal buildup focuses on Kalashnikov rifles, in addition to other types of light and medium weapons such as mortar shells and launchers, PKCs and others.

Because the tribal arms buildup has reached unprecedented levels, the prices of arms have spiked to new highs in the area, al-Melaf Press reports.

One Kalashnikov in Anbar province goes for 750,000 Iraqi dinars (ID), while earlier an AK rifle could be had in Anbar province for less than 400,000 ID.

Similar price spikes are observed in the province for other types of arms, al-Malaf Press reports.

While there are differing interpretations of this phenomenon, the agency reports that the most prominent explanations involve the Americans. Many tribal members in Anbar feel that US forces have offered support in a seemingly unlimited way to members of the Anbar Salvation Council, effectively working towards the creation of a kind of Sunni militia in Anbar province, al-Malaf Press writes.

Because of the area’s tribal and clan rivalries, al-Malaf Press suggests, this has left other tribes wary of the possibilities that the hands of some groups could be strengthened at the expense of others, touching off a tribal arms race as a kind of defensive response and self-protection policy.

Still others express fears of fighting between the new Sunni militias themselves, al-Malaf Press points out, writing that at least some see a connection between the phenomenon and the attack at the al-Mansour Hotel last month in which an explosion killed six tribal leaders, and some suggest that the conflict is rooted in government attempts to strengthen one party at the expense of another. The Islamic State of Iraq, an extremist organization with links to al-Qa'ida claimed responsibility for the attack, claiming it was avenging the alleged violation of a young Muslim girl in Anbar by anti-al-Qa'ida forces likely supported by the Iraqi central government or the US.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 11:13 pm | #

Iraqi TV Journalist Gunned Down in Samawa
Reportedly Killed by Sniper Fire While Entering Samawa TV Building
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index..._Down_in_Samawa
Posted 12 hr. 48 min. ago
Baghdad, Jul 7, (VOI)- The Iraqi Society for Defending Journalists' Rights said on Saturday an Iraqi journalist was killed in the clashes that erupted between security forces and fighters of the Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi army in the southern Iraqi city of Samawa during the last two days.

"The society's office in Samawa was informed of the death of journalist Ali Watan who was working for Samawa local TV, with a sniper's bullet while entering the Samawa TV building on Friday afternoon," the society said in a statement received by the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).

The body of Watan was received on Saturday morning, the statement added.

The society, a non-governmental organization that monitors violations against journalists in Iraq, re-appealed to the Iraqi government to take all necessary measures to protect the journalists working in the country.

Samawa was a scene of clashes between fighters loyal to the Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and security forces during Thursday and Friday. A truce was worked out between the two warring parties after an official delegation arrived in Samawa coming from Baghdad.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 11:12 pm | #

A picture is worth a thousand words:

http://www.iraqslogger.com/image...mn/ 75261567.jpg
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 11:09 pm | #

To Gabriel Alan King: NO, do not go to that website to join it. Not for fun, not for a joke, not to try to even crush them. They are under the influence of darkest power. Stay away from them. You would not cross the street when a car was coming, so don't join the church of satan.
CF | 07.07.07 - 10:38 pm | #

You're not anybody until a big shot sees you and shits his pants.
pc | 07.07.07 - 10:35 pm | #

Flat tax supporters jeer Giuliani in Jacksonville
http://www.newsday.com/news/loca...egion- apnewyork
By RON WORD
Associated Press Writer

July 7, 2007, 2:43 PM EDT

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani ran into a buzz saw of opposition Saturday when he explained his opposition to a flat federal income tax.

Giuliani addressed a group of about 500 people in a standing-room only crowd at a town hall meeting at the University of North Florida, answering questions on a variety of topics from Iraq and Iran to Social Security and his plan for tax cuts.

Several dozen people wearing white flat tax T-shirts and hats and carrying signs jeered when Giuliani, in response to a question, said he would not be in favor of a flat tax.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 10:34 pm | #

Delphi Details Shrinking UAW Workforce
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....ap-d8q7ujeg1% 26
Saturday July 7, 3:28 PM EDT
TROY, Mich. (AP) — Struggling auto parts maker Delphi Corp. expects to have as few as about 2,300 United Auto Workers union members at its four remaining UAW plants by 2012, the company said in a court filing.

That would be less than a tenth of the 24,000 UAW members it employed when it filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in 2005.

Since that filing, Delphi said its UAW membership has dropped to about 17,000 due to buyouts and early retirements, and by the end of this year, it expects to have 4,703 UAW employees as it closes and sells plants. Total UAW employment could drop to as low as 2,306 in 2012, it said this past week in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court filing in New York.

Delphi spokesman Lindsey Williams noted that the company earlier had announced its intention to exit most of its core businesses.

Members of the UAW, Delphi's largest union, approved a contract last month that cuts wages for many longtime workers but secures thousands of jobs.

The pact would leave Delphi operating four UAW plants: Grand Rapids; Kokomo, Ind.; Lockport, N.Y.; and Rochester, N.Y.

Delphi plans to sell, close or consolidate plants in Ohio, Alabama, Indiana and Texas.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 10:33 pm | #

No-Confidence Vote Looms Over Iraq's PM
CBS News Exclusive: The Iraq Project To Call For A July 15 No-Confidence Vote For Al-Maliki
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...in3027794.shtml
(CBS) For four years, Iraqis have been waiting in lines at gas stations in Baghdad, waiting for their lives to get better. But, as CBS News chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan reports, the situation has gotten worse and their government is now in crisis. That has led senior Iraqi leaders to demand drastic change. CBS News has learned that on July 15, they plan to ask for a no-confidence vote in the Iraqi parliament as the first step to bringing down the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Even those closest to the Iraqi prime minister, from his own party, admit the political situation is desperate. "I feel there is no strategy, so the people become hopeless," said Faliy al Fayadh, an MP from the Dawa Party. "You can live without petrol, without electricity, but you can't live without hope." Iraq's prime minister is facing his most serious challenge yet. The no-confidence vote will be requested by the largest block of Sunni politicians, who are part of a broad political alliance called the Iraq Project. What they want is a new government run by ministers who are appointed for their expertise, not their party loyalty. The Iraq Project is known to the highest levels of the U.S. government. CBS News has learned it was discussed in detail on Vice President Dick Cheney's most recent visit to Baghdad, when he met with the Iraqi Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi. Al-Maliki has announced his own alliance to try save his government, but even his vice president says that's little more than a short-term fix. "Cosmetic change is not going to serve the interests of Iraqis is not going to stabilize, is not going to improve security , what we need is much bigger that that," said al Hashimi, the leader of the Iraqi Islamic Party. Leaders of the Iraq Project claim they have the necessary votes to force al-Maliki to resign, but that has yet to be tested in parliament. For now, the U.S. is still standing by the Iraqi leader – publicly at least.

"I feel there is no strategy, so the people become hopeless. You can live without petrol, without electricity, but you can't live without hope."
Faliy al Fayadh
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It is not a bad strategy....it is 4 years of NO strategy.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 10:32 pm | #

Suicide Truck Bomb Kills 100 in Iraq
http://rawstory.com/ showarticle....FD8Q7TDKG0.html
TUZ KHORMATO, Iraq (AP) - A suicide bomber detonated a truck full of explosives in the market of a Shiite farm town on Saturday, killing more than 100 people and levelling nearby mud-brick buildings, police officials said.

Separately, eight American troops and a British soldier were killed in fighting over two days.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 10:26 pm | #

Obama's Davenport field office burglarized
http://www.wqad.com/global/ story...tType=Printable
DAVENPORT, Iowa (AP) - The Davenport campaign headquarters for Senator Barack Obama was burglarized last night.

Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, says that two laptop computers and some campaign literature were taken. A campaign worker discovered the burglary this morning, and a report was filed with Davenport police.

Vietor says that it doesn't appear that it was anything sensitive or irreplaceable was taken.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 10:25 pm | #

Ex-JonBenet Ramsey Murder Suspect John Mark Karr Arrested for ...
FOX News - 10 hours ago
http://www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2...,288530,00.html
AP Police in Georgia arrested John Mark Karr Saturday after a 911 call reporting domestic violence at his Sandy Springs home. Karr was arrested but taken to ...

John Mark Karr Arrested Again Entertainment Tonight
http://www.etonline.com/news/48902/

John Mark Karr Arrested by Police GameSHOUT
http://www.gameshout.com/news/ jo...article9254.htm

John Mark Karr arrested for domestic violence 9NEWS.com
http://www.9news.com/news/articl...x? storyid=73254
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Now tell us what really happened!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 10:20 pm | #

Do these people at all the live earth concerts realize that Rothschild [promoter of the concert] could end all the wars in the world in 24 hours?

But obviously does not.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 10:12 pm | #

I bet most American's will find they can relate to Gore's son's smoking habits. Not bad, not bad.
Billy | 07.07.07 - 9:52 pm | #

"Since the end of the Vietnam War, approximately 150,000 veterans have taken their own lives."
Ol Gov told us it only 50,000, about the same killed in the war.
Just body counts, numbers , you know, but I'm real curious how much profit did the MIC, the elite and the contractors profit from the war. Now theres a number I'd be interested in.
Dead men don't lie.
Ya know I almost slipped into the abyss, I looked into it and was revolted,nausiated, and filled with a hatred, those feeling never did leave me.
Free will, tell me about it.
chris jones | 07.07.07 - 9:47 pm | #

And seal your fucking fate.
Billy | 07.07.07 - 9:44 pm | #

Notice Al Gore wouldn't give an answer to a simple question from the chick at NBC. Given a "yes or no" question if he would run for President and the little zionist boy declined to answer. The hero during the earth changes will emerge in 2008.
Billy | 07.07.07 - 9:44 pm | #

It is time we analyze why Americans tolerate the bureaucratic nonsense that is the Department of Eduction.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:15 pm | #

Education, the 3R's, the rest was brainwashing rhetoric. Pledge allegiance to bush and friends.
Free will and free thought are brothers, not in our Fed.books their not.
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chris jones | 07.07.07 - 9:19 pm | #

Well now live earth seems to be filling in in London.

Beastie Boys kicked ass, then walked off the stage as if saying fuck you.

Roger Waters is coming up [please roger, let the know what is up].

Here is some info about Roger Waters' love for establishment:

In September 2004, Waters released two new tracks, "To Kill The Child" and "Leaving Beirut". These were released only on the Internet. Both of these tracks were inspired by the U.S./UK 2003 invasion of Iraq. Waters, who currently resides in the U.S., has said that the songs were written immediately after the start of the war, but he delayed releasing them until just before the 2004 Presidential election, hoping to derail George W. Bush's re-election. The lyrics included "Oh George! Oh George! That Texas education must have fucked you up when you were very small" (from "Leaving Beirut"). Although the songs' criticism was primarily aimed at the American government, Tony Blair is also referenced: "Not in my name, Tony, you great war leader". They were also released as a limited edition on CD in Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rog...ki/ Roger_Waters
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 9:08 pm | #

http://infowars.net/articles/ jul...060707gangs.htm

yup, this the one "impressed" me..
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 8:36 pm | #

I guess we must be leaning something from the Iraqi police:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...Xolf463YbM& NR=1
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 8:23 pm | #

This video was found in Iraq after the fall of Saddam. It shows how the Iraqi police treated there prisoners.
BE WARNED, this is hard to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?sea...d&v=0IjpJYh-x- E

WTF are we still doing there???
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 8:18 pm | #

Soldiers having fun with taser gun
http://www.toxicjunction.com/get...m/ get...get.asp? i=V2611
When you are in Iraq having not much to do than getting IEDed regularly, electrocuting yourself with a taser gun might help you get through the days easier.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:58 pm |

more geniuses! geez!
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 8:04 pm | #

But it is not all fun and games for the Iraqi police, looks like these guys were trained by Guiliani on how to take care of First Responders:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 8:04 pm | #

Have you ever wondered why the new Iraq police and army are so crap and the security in Iraq is getting worse and worse well this is why.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...related& search=

Iraqi Police 1st Pay Check. he gotta celebrate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 8:01 pm | #

$100 Billion for training? The US wants to send more troops to train Iraqi forces. You think it will work?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=5F9rC8n9VKM
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 8:00 pm | #

Punishment for looting in Iraq [same method coming to New Orleans soon]:
http://www.toxicjunction.com/get...m/ get...get.asp? i=V1738
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:50 pm | #

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"stealing" wood .. for what, to keep warm or cook dinner... this is LOOTING? its just punks with weapons and equipment abusing people. and notice it WAS a hispanic's logic "das wut happen wen you loot"
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 8:00 pm | #

Soldiers having fun with taser gun
http://www.toxicjunction.com/get...get.asp? i=V2611
When you are in Iraq having not much to do than getting IEDed regularly, electrocuting yourself with a taser gun might help you get through the days easier.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:58 pm | #

What do Civilian contractors in Iraq do for fun?

http://www.toxicjunction.com/get...get.asp? i=V2609
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:55 pm | #

Punishment for looting in Iraq [same method coming to New Orleans soon]:
http://www.toxicjunction.com/get...get.asp? i=V1738
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:50 pm | #

Bronx Zoo ain't got nothing on Iraq:

http://www.toxicjunction.com/get...get.asp? i=V1771
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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:47 pm | #

Iraq Parliament Bombing caught on tape
http://www.toxicjunction.com/get...get.asp? i=V2369
An explosion went off inside the cafeteria of the Iraqi parliament building on Apr 12. It is believed to be one of the worst security breaches of the heavily fortified Green Zone that houses parliament. The whole scene was caught on tape by a camera man who was interviewing an official. At least 8 people were killed in the bombing.
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Wow look how good the surge was going in April. Now with a full surge they are able to breach the green zone as needed. That is why everyone needs to wear full body armor now.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:46 pm | #

You guys will totally love this.
Just type in "Church of Satan" on your main search engine and see the official website of Satan and his children.
Ha! I might actually join and post comments.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 7:45 pm | #

every department of federal beaurocracy is parasytic
the only thing that should be happening is every state should send their reps to tell the collective what we do local
its a pipe dream
but all these departments need a good shot of human RAID
debug the entire system by abandoning all money sucking projects and councils immediately
turn over all funding to the bottom up for money into infrastructures
massive agricultural infusing of funding and resources
a local plan to take all tax moneys and infuse it perpetually back into the local ownership of land and businesses
kinda catherine austin fittz on steroids
whatis a plain and simple target is simply:
the porn industry (all of it)
and the satanic worship/ or seth worship
and any and all crimes against children accross the board
this is the core of all your drug money, bankster elite, criminal sickifants and corrupt leadership
wether you go from the top up or the bottom down
its all the same secret society freaks pulling the strings
all is fair in love and war
no tactic will be frowned upon
the entire proactive solution spectrogram will be filled from right to left and top to bottom with a vast array of past present and future manifestations of action
infowar
revolution
restoration
it all starts when you get involved
the war is allready being fought for years
dudes are in prison
kids being killed
coverups of every evil thing
lies and grande deceptions from the tip of your toes to the hair on your head
300 are my peacemakers just to get the party rolling
where it goes from there is anyones guess
join now
right here right now
fight in any and every way your spirit is led
pure
holy
with justice for all
we are the judges
wisdom and love are our shield and sword
God goes before us, making our way to eternity
we are but vapors in the wind
take america back from the criminal elite sickifants today
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 7:43 pm | #

"If this is your army, then why does it go?"
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 7:38 pm | #

Bill O'Reilly just cannot stop commiting treason by lying to the American People in order to kill more Americans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...z0QD0XLqM& eurl=
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:37 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti...07/ 070707EU.htm

this'll start waking em up there, and it'll be the same here with the NAU, all our taxes will still be there but they'll add more taxes to support even more leechers thinking theyre in charge.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 7:37 pm | #

Disappeared: Five Years in Guantanamo
http://www.alternet.org/rights/55993
In 2001, 19-year-old Murat Kurnaz was an innocent man caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. Accused of being a terrorist, he spent five years in Guantanamo before being released -- now he's telling his story
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:31 pm | #

why do they bury politicians and lawyers face up?
no one wants to hear from those assholes.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 7:29 pm | #

What happens when 30 million march against tyranny?

Well it is kind of like what happens to this car:

http://www.toxicjunction.com/get...get.asp? i=V2287
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:29 pm | #

the mission was so dangerous
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 7:27 pm | #

The Department of Education: Destroying the Education System $67.2 Billion
http:// copiousdissent.blogspot.c...destroying.html
It is time we analyze why Americans tolerate the bureaucratic nonsense that is the Department of Eduction.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:15 pm | #

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
heres some factoids about the subject.. locally here all the school districts have "corporation" at the end of the name. they printed a little legislative survey asking if printed educational material could be exempt from sales tax.

heres the reality, corporation means run for profit and not owned by the public. if the schools were public owned they would qualify as a non-profit organization and be exempt from sales tax on the books. if the schools have all been privatized why in the hell are we paying property taxes to support school districts?! I dont have a kid in school, do I get a friggin refund ?!
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 7:27 pm | #

India gets sub-based nuke warhead
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/indi...ad/44268- 3.html
India has declared itself capable of launching a nuclear missile from a submarine and has announced that a submarine-based cruise missile Sagarika has been developed and tested successfully.
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Can't mention another nuke threat without singing this song:

http://www.youtube.com/?v=fU2mwrxRQyA

Notes and Lyrics:
http://www.atomicplatters.com/mo...p? id=70_0_1_0_M
...one particular bit of advice which I recall, which is the reason I bring up this whole dreary story, is something he said once before they took him away to the Massachusetts State Home for the Bewildered, he said, "Life is like a sewer. What you get our of it depends on what you put into it!" So it seemed to me that this is precisely the sort of dynamic, positive thinking that we so desperately need today in these trying times of crisis and universal brouhaha, and so with this in mind I have here a modern, positive, dynamic uplifting song in the tradition of the great old revival hymns. This one might be more accurately termed a survival hymn, it goes like this…

When you attend a funeral / It is sad to think that sooner or / Later those you love will do the same for you / And you may have thought it tragic / Not to mention other adjecTives, to think of all the weeping they will do / (But don't you worry.)

No more ashes, no more sackcloth / And an arm band made of black cloth / Will some day nevermore adorn a sleeve / For if the bomb that drops on you / Gets your friends and neighbors too / There'll be nobody left behind to grieve

And we will all go together when we go / What a comforting fact that is to know / Universal bereavement / An inspiring achievement / Yes, we all will go together when we go

We will all go together when we go / All suffused with an incandescent glow / No one will have the endurance / To collect on his insurance / Lloyd's of London will be loaded when they go

Oh we will all fry together when we fry / We'll be French fried potatoes by and by / There will be no more misery / When the world is our rotisserie / Yes, we all will fry together when we fry

Down by the old maelstrom / There'll be a storm before the calm

And we will all bake together when we bake / There'll be nobody present at the wake / With complete participation / In that grand incineration / Nearly three billion hunks of well-done steak

Oh we will all char together when we char / And let there be no moaning of the bar / Just sing out a Te Deum / When you see that I.C.B.M. / And the party will be come-as-you-are

Oh, we will all burn together when we burn / There'll be no need to stand and wait your turn / When it's time for the fallout / And Saint Peter calls us all out / We'll just drop our agendas and adjourn

You will all go directly to your respective Valhallas / Go directly, do not pass Go, do not collect two hundred dollahs

And we will all go together when we go / Every Hottentot and every Eskimo / When the air becomes uranious / We will all go simultaneous / Yes, we all will go together / When we all go together / Yes we all will go together when we go

Tom Lehrer [1959] We'll All Go Together When We Go(Tom Lehrer)Lehrer Records TL 202S LP 'An Evening Wasted With Tom Lehrer'
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:25 pm | #

i have lost or mis apropriated everything ive ever been brainwashed into believing
i believe in friends that stick closer than brothers
words dont mean shit to me
its the principle
blah blah blah blah blah blah
over and over until the moneys gone or whatever, the beers gone, lotta talk and a liquid badge
and even when the chiot really does hit the fan
ed brown stands alone
if it were what it is in spirit
we would all boston tea party their ass right now
simultaneously
some will make a bigger demonstration of Gods Law and Power
justice against sickifants and molech worshippers should be our main goal
the criminal elite have convinced us that we are all bad and we are all vulnerable
we the people are invincible
we the people cannot be stopped
we the people will prevail
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 7:22 pm | #

wether im sober, drunk, high or sleeping
it all pans out the same
gabes right
we the people need to go buck wild now
kill all the criminal elite
start simple, right near your own state
get intel
go about doing good
robin hood style
john cofee
john rambo
john conner
john matrix
john belushi
jon bon jovi
john the baptist
jon the revelator
john f kenedy
john trauchman

any other johns i forgot

build it and they will come
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 7:14 pm | #

Pols: NY Stiffed Again on Terror Funds
http://www.breitbart.com/article...article=1& cat=0
The city where a terrorist attack destroyed the World Trade Center towers has again been stiffed in the distribution of federal anti- terrorism funding, members of the state's congressional delegation complained Saturday.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:14 pm | #

Thieves using stolen credit cards to make donations !
http://www.newsday.com/business/...s- leadheadlines
Newsday.com reports, "They might seem like modern-day Robin Hoods, but they're really just cyber-robbers. Some fraudsters have become generous -- with other people's money, donating to charities with stolen credit cards to verify the numbers are valid before selling them, the security firm Symantec Corp. said Friday on its blog. "
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:14 pm | #

Keith Urban and crew just did a good set. Come over to my house Keith, let's drink some beers.
Don't tell Nicole, s how the shit is.
Well invite Eddie too after he gets out of Betty Ford.
Musicians curse, got the t shirt.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 7:13 pm | #

As a doctor, he did not accept Medicare or Medicaid. He would do the work for free or work at a greatly lowered payment or payment plan for needy patients.

Paul supported his children during their undergraduate and medical school years, not allowing them to take part in subsidized federal student loan programs.

He had decided to enter politics on August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon went off the gold standard completely. He said, “After that day, all money would be political money rather than money of real value. I was astounded.”

Paul delivered babies on Mondays and Saturdays during his entire term as the 22nd District representative.

Paul said that he was doing more during his 1988 presidential run than reach office: he was trying to spread his liberty-minded ideas and would often talk to school groups that weren’t old enough to vote. “We’re just as interested in the future generation as this election. These kids will vote eventually, and maybe, just maybe, they’ll go home and talk to their parents.”
Paul has said that when he has money left over from campaigns, he either transfers it to his next campaign fund or donates it to charity.

In an “overwhelmingly rural region,” Paul opposes farm subsidies because they go to big corporations rather than small farmers. Despite voting against bills with large support in Congress, such as the farm bill, the congressman’s “contrarian nature” and devotion to lowering taxes appeals to voters in the 14th District.

He attends graduations, civic ceremonies, and Boy Scout honor ceremonies. In an expansive district, it is not unusual for him to log more than 300 miles per day visiting constituents or handling their concerns. He is particularly effective at reaching 14th District voters on veterans’ issues, such as procuring medals for war veterans who lost or never received their medals; he holds medal ceremonies for those whose medals are being presented.

Paul was one of 17 members of a bipartisan coalition of members of Congress who filed a lawsuit against President Bill Clinton in 1999 over his conduct of the war in Kosovo. In the filing, they accused Clinton of not reporting to Congress within 48 hours on the status of the action as required by the 1973 War Powers Resolution and not first obtaining a declaration of war from Congress as required in the Constitution.

Paul introduced legislation to declare war on Iraq in October 2002. He said he would not vote for his own bill, but if his fellow members of Congress wished to go to war in Iraq, they should follow the Constitution and declare war.

Unlike many political candidates, Paul receives the overwhelming majority of his campaign contributions (96.8% in 2005–2006) from individuals.

http://marcg.net/blog/archives/90
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:12 pm | #

It's amazing how the elite paint such a pretty picture, and then act like they aren't behind it.
Earth aid whatever. Gores mansion uses 20 times the power of the average American household, and global warming is a myth.
Scientific folklore with no real facts to back it up. Just more enslavement tactics. Iron Mountain.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 7:08 pm | #

Aliens exist, but we're not looking right - Scientific Report
http://www.news.com.au/ sundaytel...from=public_rss
Recent discoveries of extremophiles - organisms living in conditions of heat, cold and dark and using chemicals once thought incompatible with life - have changed ideas of where life can survive. Prof Baross said lab experiments also showed water did not necessarily have to be the basis for life. Yet Mars Robots look for evidence of water.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:05 pm | #

Some one better head over to baldmans house, I think he is finally losing it........
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 7:05 pm | #

Hillary's Bizarre History of the Iraq War
http://www.counterpunch.com/ land...au07072007.html
Blame the puppet.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:05 pm | #

nice mental image king
cntrl-alt-del
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 7:04 pm | #

White house or the priesthood. Good job Chris, about right on.

It's amazing how big your cock looks in a three year olds hand............

(Sorry. Old Ranger sick humor)
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 7:02 pm | #

its a dry heat
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 7:00 pm | #

I do not care about any feedback on this, but if a grwon man forces sex on a child, castrate and emasculate him in the entirety, now he has two choices get a job at the White house or Join the preisthood.
One more- this threat of other suprises for America, that will alter our minds about the war. What did he realy say, did you get it. we, America are defenseless against terorism, with all our recources,homeland,FBI,military intel, CIA, etc. it will happen. To me, that is a blatant threat ( al ittle subliminal jag there) they want their way and will get it no matter what happens to American citizens. If they have to pull off another 911 they will do it.
Go ahead, tell me I lost it complety, its ok. I hate these maggot rats sucking of us and destroying what is left of this county.
chris jones | 07.07.07 - 6:59 pm | #

soryy bro
i farten down on 8th
the prevailing heat wave is coming your wat
state farm sells flagilant insurance
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 6:58 pm | #

Now Gore is talking in random BS figures.

Ethridge is going to have to eat her words one day and I think she knows it.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:57 pm | #

All I could find on Swiss stuff
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Mr Charles O. Prince may have noticed that the Chief Executive of Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS) left his post suddenly on 6th July 2007, and that even CNN has reported this fact (without, naturlich, taking the trouble to explain WHY).
http://www.worldreports.org/ news..._funds_switched
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 6:51 pm | #

Wow
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:55 pm | #

once you go black
you never go back
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 6:53 pm | #

It's so damn hot in Spearfish today, I might actually buy into the global warming shit.
But then again, it could just be HAARP.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:52 pm | #

>>>Melissa Ethridge keeps it real and defends the constitution on Live Earth, AWESOME!!!!!

She breaks Globalization Protocol and talk about the constitution and when we had an unjust war and an criminal president.

She then talks about going back to work and look for the truth:

"When justice is being OBSTRUCTED we will enact justice. Isn't that what we do America?

Imagine going into work and saying "ENOUGH, I don't care if my credit cards are maxed out, ENOUGH"
If not now when, if not today, when, what happens tomorrow.

I have been given the American Dream, and I know some things. I am tired of them splitting us up.

The American Dream is Freedom

Just because Freedom does not have an a Brand Name

We are America!!!

Tomorrow I am going to tell the truth

I am an American

A citizen of the whole wide world [small give in to NWO]

We are coing to lead like we always do

We are going to speak the truth

No matter how inconvenient it is [shameless Gore, plug-but worth it]

Truth is love the people by the people for the people

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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now she is singing her Al Gore dick sucking song wake up, but look for the first song when it hits you tube, that is where her human spirit and everyone'e is- people are getting the truth.

An old school girl, she steels back the thunder from the globalists [who hijacked the grass roots music movement] and is rallying truth [even for 3 minutes]!

I am sure a wizard is scolding Gore for that!

Also, the fans were going ape shit over the first song, but now they are just bored with lies again.

Truth = life

Lies = death
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:50 pm | #

UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR, a short term paper by Gabriel Alan King.

OK, here is the deal. NAMBLA? Nambla stands for North American man boy love association, and it is sanctioned by the United Nations.

OK. I love and appreciate freedom just as much as the next common idiot, but come on people. Where do we draw the line? Grown men having sex with young boys is sanctioned by the UN?

Hmm. Truth is gonna raise brows. This is rediculous. And it is not up for debate or discussion with me.

(Sharp sound of gavel slapping wood) JUDGEMENT ISSUED.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:46 pm | #

Is that you, Candy cane?
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:40 pm | #

Have they checked the Vatican Swiss accounts for the money yet?
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:27 pm | #

I do not know, I will have a quick lookie to see if I can find anything.

oh here is a court docket link about Wanta: -
http://dockets.justia.com/docket...istrict% 20Court
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 6:40 pm | #

There was this one freak, who wrote into "The Stranger" fringe rag in Seattle, about how all the world's problems could be solved if men and boys all learned to masturbate together.
Freedom of speech is a necessary thing, And boy oh boy. The Stranger let this guy fill more than 3 pages with his twisted homosexual fantasies. I basically just though it was funny, and laughed my ass off. I'm actually glad they let him comment. I had a good laugh. This guy said he was some kind of Sun child and he liked to serve the sexual gratifications of other men. I mean, I probably couldn't have come up with something more whacked if I tried on a student loan.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:39 pm | #

I prefer darker beers usually, like Guiness. It helps cut through the bullshit.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:34 pm | #

Beer will save us, if we only find the strength to believe in it.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:33 pm | #

Let's all worship Satan, and have blood orgys, and study the works of Aleister Crowley and Albert Pike. Satan will give us power if we prove our dedication to evil, and our devotion to Satan.
Only by doing evil, can we truly be good.
Empty your minds.
Embrace nothingness.
Mind control yourself.
fantasize about murdering your neighbors with a hockey mask on.
Raping children is good. The CIA does it, they will protect you if you bring them children.
If we don't fall for anything, then we will stand for something, and that can't be right.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:31 pm | #

a video cameras eye is single
think about it
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 6:30 pm | #

greenspan in solitary - LMFAO , oh ho ho ho ho it is Christmas, perhaps Santa will come down the chimney and give me a present.
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 5:36 pm | #
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Have they checked the Vatican Swiss accounts for the money yet?
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:27 pm | #

SHAKIRA IS FUCKING LIP SINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The whole thing is a farce!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:23 pm | #
___________________________

Shakira's only natural live voice was an Arabic celebration call. Awesome!

That was the worst performance I ever saw her do, wow.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:26 pm | #

I am going to join the Temple of Set, and get my setion I pendant medallion. www.TempleofSet.com official website.
Mmmm, I can already taste the blood of children.........
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:26 pm | #

SHAKIRA IS FUCKING LIP SINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The whole thing is a farce!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:23 pm | #

I worship Satan dude. He is really actually a good guy. Sometimes I get together with my Mason buddy Tony Blair and we both "channel the light" together, and then we have a freewill swinger orgy in the blood of innocents.
I'm so glad my mind has been truly opened.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:20 pm | #

and the worms ate into his brain
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 6:19 pm | #

Hell, while we are at it let's sacrifice a virgin to the Sun God so the crops grow next year.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:18 pm | #

ultimately
all war is the mindfruck of one guy
follow the clinched fist to the criminal elite at the top
and they will answer to satan himself
even the ultimately decieved are serving satan even when they swear to "God" they dont worship him
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 6:17 pm | #

Live Earth. Maybe they should end it with a bunch of Druids reciting love poetry. And then some Satyrs fornicating around an asher pole.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 6:15 pm | #

better to burn out
than to fade away
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 6:13 pm | #

as for the red mosque deal?
i liked the movie red heat
the movie blue velvet
the movie true lies
sex lies and videotape sucked but was a good mind fruck
the first wave of the infowar was the vhs video revolution
many wonderful underground videos
copy em all and get em out to the rest of the world
then bada bing bada boom DVD'S

alex jones and the gcn radio station
rockin it as hard as possible

we the people will prevail one beer at a time
we the people will stand and rise up one twix at a time
we the people will prophesy against the beast one revelation at a time
God Saves
Environmentalists are criminal elite satan worshippers
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 6:11 pm | #

i dig the gold spandex pants
gives a sorta goldmember angle to the show
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 6:03 pm | #

Musharraf issues ultimatum to militants holed up in the Red Mosque , Islamabad. "Surrender or die"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...sia/ 6280172.stm
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oh fuck, could be a bad one, if they storm the Red Mosque they could easily start a civil war, this could be the story of the year so far.

Let us hope for something other than a massacre and a reasonable resolution rather than a bloodbath. The potential consequences of a slaughter, in terms of uprisings and civil conflict, are potentially very grave for Pakistan and indeed the whole region and world.
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 6:00 pm | #

Candy cane..........
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 5:58 pm | #

live earth pumping strong
whoooohooooo
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 5:57 pm | #

LOL, high Gabe
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 5:54 pm | #

I brought a bottle of pink champaign, Candy cane..........
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 5:52 pm | #

Is that you, Candy cane?
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 5:48 pm | #

I have been a bit quiet I admit, but not lazy, simply studious.
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 5:42 pm | #

>>>The Pope and Papacy LOVES our children:

Sex Crimes And Vatican [eng] part 1 of 4
10 min - Jul 4, 2007 - (3 ratings)
... for sex crimes. Crimen Sollicitationis was written in 1962 in Latin and given ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...h? v=CdxfOVikt78
Watch video here - Related videos
Sex Crimes And Vatican [eng] part 2 of 4
10 min - Jul 6, 2007
... habeas corpus allowing the president to declare you an 'enemy combatant' and ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h? v=pX1GlLWTk5Y
Sex Crimes And Vatican [eng] part 3 of 4
10 min - Jul 4, 2007 - (1 rating)
... for sex crimes. Crimen Sollicitationis was written in 1962 in Latin and given ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h?v=Ro5L- 4hZE20
Watch video here - Related videos
Sex Crimes And Vatican [eng] part 4 of 4
9 min - Jul 4, 2007 - (1 rating)
... for sex crimes. Crimen Sollicitationis was written in 1962 in Latin and given ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h? v=PpMDt5ZPxms
Watch video here - Related videos
Sex Crimes And Vatican
39 min - Jun 16, 2007 - (3 ratings)
A secret church directive is covering up sex crimes.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...183295028801019
PEDOPHILE & VATICAN
39 min - May 17, 2007 - (1834 ratings)
SEX CRIMES AND THE VATICAN.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...322232469003782
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:40 pm | #

The real reason for Scooter Libby's pardon.......
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HE REAL, SECRET REASON FOR PRESIDENT BUSH'S DECISION ON LEWIS LIBBY
Another of the Bushes’ characteristics is, of course, the familiar problem of double-mindedness and double standards. The latest example of this concerns President Bush Jr.’s ‘decision’ to commute the 30-month prison sentence imposed upon Vice President Richard B. Cheney’s side-kick, Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby. In June 2007, Libby was sentenced to a mere two and a half years in prison, fined $250,000 and sentenced also to two years of probation, having been convicted in March 2007 on four counts of perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements in connection with the unmasking of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative.

This Presidential ‘decision’ gave rise to 18 immediate public statements by prominent personages, including Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, Senator Dick Durbin [D-Illinois], former Senator Fred Thompson [R-Tennessee], Senator Patrick Leahy [D-Vermont], Rep. Roy Blount [R-Missouri], Senator Barack Obama [D-Illinois], former New York Mayor, Rudi Giuliani, Senate Majority leader, Harry Reid [D-Nevada], Senator Hillary Clinton [D-New York], House of Representatives Speaker, Nancy Pelosi [D-California], Senator Joe Biden [D-Delaware], Senator Christopher Dodd (Stalin’s grandson, D-California), Senator John Kerry [D-Massachusetts], the Governor of New Mexico, Bill Richardson, and Valerie Plame’s husband, Joseph Wilson (4).

Most (but not all) of the comments immediately forthcoming from these figures were critical, but not a single one of them divulged the REASON for President Bush’s deciding to ‘commute’ Mr Libby’s 30-month prison sentence.

What was the reason? Why, it was because Lewis Libby had threatened, as rats in a sack are apt to do, to rat on Vice President Richard Cheney, and to spill the beans on the hornets’ nest of financial corruption over which Cheney, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Paulson, Chertoff and the other scum who are collectively responsible for bringing the whole world to the brink of financial calamity, have been presiding. And if anyone knows, IN DETAIL, what abominations these people have perpetrated, and the scale of the financial corruption and theft that continues to this day, it is ‘Scooter’ Libby.

One of Mr Libby’s clients was none other than Marc Rich (Reich), exposed by this Editor as the long-range German Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst (DVD) operative Hans Brand (5). DVD is the Nazi Continuum HQ, located, of all places, in Dachau.
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 5:40 pm | #

Bush fucks with Putin - silly boy...
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PRESIDENT PUTIN LIED TO BY THE BUSHES AT KENNEBUNKPORT
According to the sources, the Wanta Settlement was ‘attempted’, yet again, on Friday 29th June, but was torpedoed by further interference with the codes perpetrated by the criminal operatives and bankers referenced above. When President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin took his leave of George Bush Sr. and Jr. after their ‘fishing trip’ (during which they imagined that American and foreign intelligence eavesdroppers could not hear what they were discussing), the Bushes promised Mr Putin – who is owed $30 billion under the Reagan-Mitterrand Protocols to be implemented by Ambassador Wanta in accordance with his obligations to the late President Reagan and under the Settlement – that the Wanta payment would be effected that very day.

However no funds were placed in the securities account with Morgan Stanley, New York, operated in the name of AmeriTrust Groupe, Inc., Ambassador Leo Wanta’s Virginia-based Corporation – so that either President Vladimir Putin was lied to by the Bushes, or else the information that Putin was promised that the Settlement would be honoured that day, was false.

A third, and obvious, alternative, is that the Bushes have bribed President Putin so that he may have ceased to be a powerful and reliable advocate for the Settlement. We are inclined to dismiss this hypothesis, on the grounds not least that the Russian GRU-President, who is extremely well informed, would be aware that we would come to know that he had been bribed, and would likely publicise this fact.

Since he is presiding over a clean-up operation at home, any hint that he has accepted a bribe at this late stage of the crisis, would be liable to be counterproductive from his point of view.

So the obvious likelihood is that President Putin was lied to by the Bushes, who lie to everybody and whose assurances are notoriously worthless.
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 5:39 pm | #

more highlights: -
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FORMER GOVERNOR SIR EDDIE GEORGE ARRESTED FOR ALLEGED WANTAGATE FRAUD
LONDON: On 2nd July 2007, the former Governor of the Bank of England, Sir Eddie George, was reported to have been arrested, after he had been apprehended ‘in flagrante’ interfering with the banking codes and sequences affecting the Wanta Settlement.

Also arrested on that date, according to sources special to this service, were a group of between 15 and 20 bankers, consisting of central bankers in the United Kingdom, and key international bankers in the United States, found to be involved in the Eddie George criminal ring – one of the groups that has been sabotaging the Wanta Settlement payment of $4.5 trillion, thus bringing the whole world to the brink of an historically unprecedented financial and economic catastrophe.

Sir Eddie George has therefore joined the former chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, Dr Alan Greenspan, in disgrace, and for the same generic reason: his illegal retention and exploitation of banking codes and information acquired when he was serving as head of his country’s central bank.
GREENSPAN INCARCERATION CONFIRMED BY 'MULTIPLE SOURCES'
Our sources confirm that there have been ‘multiple confirmations’, since we first reported the matter, that Greenspan himself was arrested. Although there have been conflicting reports from unreliable sources about his fate, the preponderance of authoritative reports from Group of Eight intelligence community and Gold Badge informants, reiterate that Dr Alan Greenspan is in solitary confinement, with no access to a telephone, and that he was not granted bail (1).

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greenspan in solitary - LMFAO , oh ho ho ho ho it is Christmas, perhaps Santa will come down the chimney and give me a present.
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 5:36 pm | #

And well I am afraid we all know that the plan is to collapse the dollar and there is more confirmation here of that fact.[/b]
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 5:30 pm | #
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Where ya been????

More Wanta!!!!

I want wanta!!!!!!

Like Bush says, follow the money.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:33 pm | #

July 7, 2007
Ron Paul actually 2nd in Fundraising ahead of Mitt and McCain
Filed under: News — jellygal @ 1:28 pm
http://ronpaulpledge.com/wordpress/?p=10
According to ABC News, Mitt’s numbers are inflated because he donated $9 million dollars from his personal wealth into his campaign. In addition, they report his numbers would be around McCain’s if he hadn’t plugged in his own money.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:32 pm | #

Fitzgerald probe: Sen. Clinton withdrew stolen funds from Grenada bank

http://www.stewwebb.com/ fitzgera...renada_Bank.htm
Prosecutor in possession of documents, numbered bank accounts, trusts —and alleged film evidence of Senator Hillary Clinton withdrawing stolen U.S. Treasury funds from bank in Grenada as Fitzgerald probe expands to $742 billion theft
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:30 pm | #

Hey sane and all, good evening

WANTAGATE UPDATE

Ex governor of the Bank of England arrested over illegal transfer (i.e. theft) of Queens gold to Bush family, Cheney, Greenspan, Paulson et al.

http://www.worldreports.org/ news...r_bank_of_engla

It is a rather long article, so extended highlights extracted here: -
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THE QUEEN PINS THE BLAME ON BLAIR AND ASKS FOR GORDON BROWN'S ASSISTANCE
On 27th June, the outgoing intelligence operative, Tony Blair, was driven in the official Prime Ministerial car to Buckingham Palace, where he tendered his resignation to The Queen. Instead of indulging in parting pleasantries, the outgoing Prime Minister spent 35 minutes with Her Majesty, who was reported on reliable authority to have informed Mr Blair that she holds him personally responsible for the return of her stolen gold. (This information could only have been obtained from intercepts of subsequent conversations between Mr Blair’s successor, and foreign leaders).

Not long afterwards, the incoming Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, was driven with his elegant and much respected wife Sarah, to the Palace, where Mr Brown spent no less than 55 minutes with Her Majesty. Constitutional experts pointed out that for an incoming Prime Minister to have such a long audience of the Monarch was historically unprecedented, and it was.

For the Queen and her new First Minister, who she knows well, were not discussing flowers or football. The subjects of their extended conversation?

Why, of course they were (a) the crisis over the stealing by the American office-holding criminals of the Queen’s gold and the grave implications of this outrage for Anglo-American relations; and (b) the Leo Wanta Settlement, which The Queen has been pressing for, given not least that she knows Ambassador Leo Wanta and awarded him an honorary knighthood in recognition of the exceptional services that he rendered in the past to the United Kingdom.

BOTCHED 'EXPLOSIONS' IN BRITAIN A DISTRACTION FROM GOLD HEIST CRISIS
We are reliably informed that the latest outbreak of 'mock' terrorism perpetrated by 'radicalised' Muslims in Britain (who have turned out to be operatives infiltrated into the country as doctors) was orchestrated specifically in order to distract attention from the stealing of The Queen's gold.

PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM EXHAUSTS ITS ELASTICITY AND IS CLOSED DOWN
Meanwhile the so-called Plunge Protection Team, run by the US Treasury, which falsifies the values of US stock prices when the market goes into free-fall, as happened on 29th June, has stretched its elasticity to such an extreme extent, that it has effectively run out of resources, after moving into the market in New York last Friday.

This means, to be blunt, that we will be lucky to get through July without a global stock market and generalised financial crash, absent the Wanta Settlement – some of the tax proceeds of which will become available for use to ‘stabilise’ the stock market, although the Plunge Protection Team itself, using fiat money resources taken from ‘off the books’, has been closed down.

GEOPOLITICAL AIM OF DESTROYING THE $, BUYING UP U.S. ASSETS FOR ZILCH?
But a more sinister explanation for the behaviour of Cheney, the Bushes, et al, given their dubious foreign connections, and given that vast amounts of the fiat resources they have generated and stolen by exploiting the Ambassador’s assets, have been translated into Euros and into pounds sterling, may have been to collapse the dollar – thus enabling their clients, answering to the ‘Black Nazi’ continuum based at Dachau, to buy up US assets at fire-sale prices.

We cannot possibly exclude such treasonous intentions, given for instance that Libby’s client was DVD operative Hans Brand (Marc Rich) – President Clinton’s buddy and the man whom Clinton or his treacherous CIA handlers activated, to get the Swiss authorities to seize Ambassador Wanta illegally and to thrust him into one of their stinking dungeons on 7th July 1993.

Once he was 'inside', the Swiss proceeded to try to murder him on behalf of ‘the syndicate’ by feeding him poisoned cheese. As previously reported, since Leo Wanta does not eat cheese, he gave it inadvertently to a fellow prisoner, who died shortly afterwards. A Swiss prison doctor subsequently instructed Leo on what food was safe to eat in the jail, pointing out that the Swiss authorities are in the habit of murdering inmates considered to be political prisoners.

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[b]Wow, this is hardcore stuff, if the Plunge Protection Team is out of funds that means the US stock market will collapse, the PPT has been keeping it going since the start of the year in the face of housing market collapse and beginnings of liquidity crisis in subprime debt of all kinds and repricing of debt risks, plus the China market crash.

Good to know the Queen has roasted Blair, about time somebody did.

And well I am afraid we all know that the plan is to collapse the dollar and there is more confirmation here of that fact.[/b]
Biggs | 07.07.07 - 5:30 pm | #

Ron Paul TV interview Part 1- 06/24/2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D...related& search=
Part 1- He talks about the Federal reserve System, the IRS, and the Plunge Protection Team.

Ron Paul TV interview Part 2- 06/24/2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...related& search=
health care, abolishing big government agencies, the CIA/NSA, global government, the New World Order the North American Union, investigating secretive organizations like the Council on Foreign Relations and global government organizations like the UN

Ron Paul TV interview Part 3- 06/24/2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...ogspot%2Ecom% 2F
He talks about American imperialism, Iraq, the global war on terror, illegal immigration, the move by the establishment to tax and regulate the Internet, the prospect of global taxation, gun control, the militarization of police, Bush's Homeland Security Directive (HPSD-51) that makes the President a dictator in the case of an emergency.

Ron Paul TV interview Part 4- 06/24/2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...related& search=
He talks about the possibility of martial law in the United States, explains his stance on a new independent investigation on the events of 9/11 and if he would support the impeachment of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:29 pm | #

Google HQ Rolls Out Red Carpet for Ron Paul
http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewr...ves/ 013969.html
At the invitation of that great capitalist enterprise, Ron Paul will tour the Google campus on Friday, July 13, make a YouTube, and deliver a company-wide address to all employees, in person and by streaming video around the world.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:25 pm | #

>>Website called Transworld News is a phishing spy site that ran the following disinfo article:

Ron Paul Supporters Catching Attention of the FBI?

CapitolHillBlue.com is reporting several threatening voicemails to its office after recent reports of less than expected fundraising numbers from the campaign. The web site would like to caution all supporters of any campaign that making a phone threat across states lines is considered a federal crime.

Here is the info on the site:

Domain Name: TRANSWORLDNEWS.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS13.ZONEEDIT.COM
Name Server: NS17.ZONEEDIT.COM
Name Server: NS8.ZONEEDIT.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 16-jun-2007
Creation Date: 29-dec-2001
Expiration Date: 29-dec-2011
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:24 pm | #

Google can recognize faces!
http://www.techyantra.net/2007/0...ecognize-faces/
[Poster describes it as COOL]
I saw a video tutorial at Veoh (I lost the link so I can’t link the actual video to you) by which you can search for personalities in Google Images. Some of you may already know this trick. I am just posting this for the others who may actually find this useful. Actually I was looking for such a service some months ago (while preparing for a quiz competition). Okay enough nonsense talk lets get to the point.

Oh by the way before we start let me make my stand clear. This feature has been available in Google for sometime and this not a post announcing the release of such a feature.

Step 1:Go to Google Images and search for anything you wish. I did a search for ‘Halo’

Step 2:You will get a search result page as shown in Picture 2. Now to the end of the url add &imgtype=face as shown in picture 3(highlighted). Now press Enter

Step 3:You are done. See the image results now.

How does it work?
According to the video, Google uses the same technology modern digital cameras uses to Auto Focus on faces.

Accuracy
I did a lot of tests and I found only one error. When i searched for technology some kind of pie chart like diagrams (its actually 3 circles overlapping each other. Click on the thumbnail to see) showed up. This might be due to the round figures which are very similar to human face.
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sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:18 pm | #

Pennsylvania Government Shuts Down
http://www.davickservices.com/ PA...nt_shutdown.htm
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:15 pm | #

USA Elections Poll - Ron Paul Back into list of TOP CANDIDATES
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/...paign- news.html
Ron Paul is dominating every other candidate in online polls. If they truly make up just 2% of the Republican support that he is getting but consistently gets 70% in our straw polls, that would suggest that his supporters are 35 times more passionate than the supporters of Giuliani, McCain, Romney, and Thompson combined. Instead of trying to restrict the speech of Ron Paul supporters like other blogs and websites we encourage them. But we also say shame on you to the supporters of the other campaigns. Speak up, make a post, write a blog, send some emails, make some youtube videos, get on myspace, donate a buck. You guys are looking really pathetic compared to Ron Paul's supporters, not only on our website but every other website on the Internet.

As a result of all this, Ron Paul is now back into our list of top candidates in the right menu.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:14 pm | #

DHS computer security still sucks
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/...ty-still-sucks/
Government auditors told a Congressional committee last week that computer security at the Department of Homeland Security still needs improvement, even after years of work to remedy the problems.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:11 pm | #

Bush accuses US Cong of failing to meet its duties
http://newscraze.blogspot.com/20...ng-to- meet.html
Washington, July 07: President George W Bush on Saturday accused Democratic lawmakers of being unable to live up to their duties, citing Congress' inability to pass legislation to fund the federal government......
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:09 pm | #

Blackberry CEO Says Steve Jobs & Apple Screwing Over AT&T.
http://www.ceosmack.com/2007/07/...ewing-over-att/
There have long been reports that Steve Jobs and Apple have a reputation for using its partners to its benefit, and then giving them none of the credit for a product ’s success. If a product does well, Apple gets the spotlight…but if a product has a bug or if there is a technical problem, Apple leaves their partners to shoulder the blame.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:08 pm | #

Reid Thinks He Has the Votes for a Withdrawl Vote
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ De..._sway_0707.html
The New York Times will report Sunday that the Democrats' Senate chief is increasingly confident that he'll be able to sway the Senate into voting for withdrawal.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:08 pm | #

about the rothschild interview, the second the punk said mars saturn and jupiter are closer to the sun I'd have jumped up yelling thats an obvious lie and for you saying that I will not believe anything else you ever try to tell me.

look at the PP article about the carbon footprint of putting on these concerts, lighting off 5000 giant bonfires to combat global warming makes more sense.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 5:04 pm | #

http://infowars.net/articles/jul.../ 060707Cams.htm

cops surveillance blah-blah-blah.. then
However, war veteran Michael Moody told Local 6 News that he appreciated the cameras and unseen security at the Orlando celebration and that it reminded him of what the U.S. Army uses in Iraq.

-since when are WE the iraqi's ?
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 4:57 pm | #

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eight Al Qaeda fanatics working for the police (but they don't dare sack them)

By STEPHEN WRIGHT
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ pages...ticle_id=466832
Up to eight police officers and civilian staff are suspected of links to extremist groups including Al Qaeda. Some are even believed to have attended terror training camps in Pakistan or Afghanistan. Their names feature on a secret list of alleged radicals said to be working in the Metropolitan and other forces. The dossier was drawn up with the help of MI5 amid fears that individuals linked to Islamic extremism are taking advantage of police attempts to increase the proportion of ethnic staff. Astonishingly, many of the alleged jihadists have not been sacked because - it is claimed - police do not have the "legal power" to dismiss them. We can also reveal that one suspected jihadist officer working in the South East has been allowed to keep his job despite being caught circulating Internet images of beheadings and roadside bombings in Iraq. He is said to have argued that he was trying to "enhance" debate about the war.

Classified intelligence reports raising concerns about police staff's background cannot be used to justify their dismissal, sources said. Instead, the staff who are under suspicion are unofficially barred from working in sensitive posts and are closely monitored. Political correctness is blamed for the decision not to sack them. It is widely feared that "long-term" Al Qaeda sleepers are trying to infiltrate other public sector organisations in the UK. In November last year, it was revealed that a leading member of an extremist Islamic group was working as a senior official at the Home Office. MI5 has warned in the past that suspects with "strong links" to Osama Bin Laden's killers have tried to join the British security services and, in January, exiled radical Omar Bakri claimed that Islamic extremists were infiltrating the police and other public sector organisations. Suspicions are growing that the gang behind the failed London bomb attacks could have received inside information about rescue procedures in the aftermath of an atrocity in the capital.

The Daily Mail can reveal that the second device parked near Haymarket was left at a designated "evacuation assembly point" where civilians and the emergency services would have gathered had the first bomb gone off. Investigators are trying to establish whether the bombers knew the significance of the location. Sources said it is unlikely that the Met is the only force which may have been infiltrated by Al Qaeda sympathisers. Omar Altimimi, a failed asylum seeker jailed for nine years yesterday for hoarding manuals on how to carry out car bombings, had applied to work as a cleaner for the Greater Manchester force. In a separate development, it is understood that a policeman was removed from his post after concerns about his conduct in the aftermath of a major anti-terrorist operation in the past two years.

For legal reasons, the Mail cannot reveal any more about the case. The MI5 list of suspected Islamists working in the police is said to have been drawn up in the aftermath of the 7/7 terror attacks in London. MI5 checked staff details at the Met and other forces with intelligence databases on individuals said to have attended radical Islamic schools - or Madrassas - and terror training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan. It is thought that intelligence files on those who frequently visit pro-Jihad websites and who have associated with so-called preachers of hate were also compared to details of officers and civilian staff in the Met. As a result of the review, eight officers and civilian staff were identified as Al Qaeda sympathisers or people of concern because of their links to Islamic extremists. The disclosure will raise concerns about the system for vetting new recruits, each of whom is the subject of counter-terrorism checks to ensure they are suitable to join the police. Scotland Yard's vetting unit is regarded as one of the best in the country.

But sources said it is often impossible to carry out satisfactory checks on recruits who were raised overseas or who have spent considerable periods out of Britain before applying to join the Met. In such cases, the Met has to rely on overseas agencies to carry out intelligence checks on their behalf. Privately, officials doubt whether certain countries in Africa, Middle East or the Indian sub-continent are able to carry out meaningful vetting. As a result of the Stephen Lawrence public inquiry report, which accused the Met of being "institutionally racist", Scotland Yard has in recent years employed thousands of officers and civilian staff from the ethnic minorities in an attempt to reach recruitment targets. A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "All employees upon joining the Met and during their careers undergo a range of security checks. These are robust and vary according to the type and sensitivity of individual postings. "We take matters of security very seriously and if an issue arises, people may be subjected to further assessment. "This may lead to restrictions in relation to where an individual works in the organisation or whether they are suitable to remain in the service."
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:57 pm | #

Anyway, David Rothschild was polite and well spoken.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 4:38 pm | #
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Just like the rest of them as they plan our enslavement.

He is not stupid, he is quite brilliant [hint, he does hot get an education from Rockefeller books].

I love that Alex did not give him a fluff interview. People like that are so calculating, they plan things out for GENERATIONS.

Protect Yourself At ALL Times - Clint Eastwod, Million Dollar Baby
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:44 pm | #

Really. How do you do it Sane. Meth? Amphetamines? Weed? TRON 2.0
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 4:30 pm | #
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Maybe I am a Pissed off Grey in Area 51 that got access to a keyboard.

Maybe I am an abused slave under the Vatican that got access to a Jesuit's Blackberry.

Or maybe I am like hundreds of millions across the globe that are tired of seeing our children dying and spreading blood all over their grand chessboard.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:41 pm | #

Jones went a little hard on Rothschild. I think it may have been a better idea to just befriend him. Then again, I don't know. David didn't offer any evidence for global warming, he just made blanket comments. And he even said Saturn and Jupiter are closer to the sun, probably some kind of inside joke.
Anyway, David Rothschild was polite and well spoken. I will give him that. But he couldn't answer any of Alex's questions and eventually resorted to calling Alex a conspiracy theorist.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 4:38 pm | #

Distorted Morality: America's War on Terror
http://video.google.com/ videopla...493778274694422
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:38 pm | #

Rageh Inside Iran
1 hr 30 min - Feb 17, 2007 - (414 ratings)
... Rageh Omaar embarks on a unique journey inside what he describes as one of the most misunderstood countries in the world, looking at the country through the eyes of ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...201962695917482

China Blue
1 hr 27 min - Jan 31, 2007 - (6 ratings)
... overtime pay. They only get paid about $50 to $60 a month after all these long ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...727527393238859
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:35 pm | #

Really. How do you do it Sane. Meth? Amphetamines? Weed? TRON 2.0
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 4:30 pm | #

Edited by T.A.

" Rick Santorum predicts some unfortunate events will give Americans a very different view of this war" (GET READY 9-11 False Flag Part 2)

9/11 Blogger
Saturday July 7, 2007

Yesterday, on the Hugh Hewitt show, former PA Senator Rick Santorum made references to learning the lessons of 9-11 and the recent 'attacks' in England. Then when asked by Hewitt whether he felt the leading Republican Presidential candidates were speaking with enough "seriousness" about the war, Santorum proceeded to say that alot was going to change in the next year.

"You know, I’ve talked to all three of the major candidates, that I think will be the major candidates, and that’s Giuliani, Romney and Thompson. I think those will be the three major candidates when we head into the final analysis. And I think all of them understand the issue very, very well, they understand particularly the importance of Iran, and confronting Iran in the Middle East as an absolute lynchpin for our success in that region, and I think they are committed to that. And while it may not be a popular thing to talk about right now, and I know public sentiment is against it, they understand the importance of the national security of this country, and they also understand that between now and November,* A LOT OF THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN*, and I believe that by this time next year, the American public’s going to have a very different view of this war, and it will be because, I think, (I KNOW) edit* *OF SOME UNFORTUNATE EVENTS*, that like we’re seeing unfold in the UK.

PLEASE ALERT THE FBI TO SANTORIUMS' VEILED TERRORIST THREATS!!! This is about as close to admitting he KNOWS about another FALSE FLAG in the works-- to try and swing America around to attacking Iran for the Neo-Con Agenda-- as one can get without coming right out and anouncing it!!!

PRISON PLANET.com Copyright © 2002-2007 Alex Jones All rights reserved.
This American | 07.07.07 - 4:25 pm | #

Good music. It's sort of hot out today, hey! maybe the globe is warming. And then again, maybe it isn't.

I got a better idea. How about a bunch of bands to support "Secrecy aid". You know, a big concert to oppose secrecy in the government?
Until we do that, we won't ever know what the fuck is really warming or cooling.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 4:16 pm | #
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Every once in a while you hit the nail SQUARE ON THE HEAD! Nice!
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:23 pm | #

>>>If Our Kids Have the Courage to Deal with this War Every Second for Years, The Least We Can Do is Stop Hiding From What Their Life Is Like

"Paying the Price: Killing the Children of Iraq" by John Pilger
1 hr 15 min - Nov 21, 2006 - (52 ratings)
After Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, the United Nations (backed strongly by ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...691819991815704

John Pilger - Flying the Flag (Arming the World)
51 min - Jan 23, 2007 - (40 ratings)
John Pilger and David Munro look behind the political rhetoric and discover ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...356728565502659

John Pilger - Breaking the Mirror (The Murdoch Effect)
52 min - Jan 22, 2007 - (20 ratings)
The British public were told that the new information technology, heralded ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...752483917353600
Watch video here - Related videos

Stealing a Nation, a Special Report by John Pilger
56 min - Sep 29, 2006 - (106 ratings)
STEALING A NATION (John Pilger, 2004) is an extraordinary film about the plight ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...764379758632511

John_Pilger - Truth Game
1 hr 19 min - Jan 23, 2007 - (39 ratings)
John Pilger looks at world-wide propaganda surrounding the nuclear arms race. ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...389096643641702

The Death Squads
45 min - Dec 3, 2006 - (319 ratings)
The torture and slaughter of Iraqi civilians is reaching unprecedented heights ...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...952052252839443

The Killing of Children, That's What War Is
6 min - Feb 20, 2007 - (268 ratings)
The Killing of Iraqi children during "Operation Iraqi Freedom". We are not ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h? v=XVmpFJEZ4ps
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Who Voted For This War in Our Name?

Who is Continuing to Support It after "I did not know" can no longer be a valid excuse?
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:20 pm | #

Secret_Files_of_the_Inquisition_- _Pt1_(The_Land_Of_Terror).avi
http://video.google.com/ videopla...656248085601862

Can't find Part 2

Secret_Files_of_the_Inquisition_- _Pt3_(The_War_Of_Ideas).avi
http://video.google.com/ videopla...430838876000383

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News Flash-The Inquisition Never Ended - We are still Living It
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:13 pm | #

soviet afghan war
http://video.google.com/ videopla...756878294549745

great documentary on the soviet afghanistan war, the mujahedeen and the taliban fighting with the help and aid of the cia, american weapons, manuals, intelligence and money to buy chinese weapons.

The strategies used in their hit and run guerrilla tactics which is still used today in Afghanistan with great effect.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:09 pm | #

Iraq: The Continuous War
http://video.google.com/ videopla...111290591945086

German Documentary
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:08 pm | #

Uncovered: The Whole Truth about the Iraq War
http://video.google.com/ videopla...776154611312378
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:07 pm | #

The Ground Truth: The Human Cost of War

http://video.google.com/ videopla...599301918606321
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:03 pm | #

Mission Accomplished
http://video.google.com/ videopla...538587917689000

Tell us the Mission
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=HVvnWZtAJss
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:00 pm | #

Dear America - Letters Home from Vietnam
http://video.google.com/ videopla...118938804047863
The definitive Vietnam War Movie
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:54 pm | #

Judgement - Lies to get us into Bosnia:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...713002681041859
Just like Iraq, the real Naziesque killing did not start until we came in-Like father like son, WAKE UP!!!!

The phony pictures were broadcast worldwide starting on August 6th. Twenty minutes after they were shown on US Television…

On 6 August 1992 just *20 minutes* after the pictures were broadcast, George Bush, Sr. held a press conference at a Colorado Air Base:

“Reports say that 20 minutes after the ITN footage was shown in the United States, President George Bush changed his hands-off policy and promised to ‘press hard for quick passage’ of a UN Security Council resolution authorising the use of force in the Balkans.”
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:53 pm | #

Iraq: The Women's Story
http://video.google.com/ videopla...726274906424048
The invasion of Iraq heralded promises of freedom from tyranny and equal rights for the women of Iraq. But three years on, the reality of everyday life for women inside Iraq is a different story.

By Zeena Ahmed This Channel4 Dispatches film provides a compelling account of life inside Iraq that is rarely seen on news bulletins: stories of ordinary women whose struggle to survive has only worsened since the war.
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WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:50 pm | #

With God on Our Side
http://video.google.com/ videopla...135304712574299
George W. Bush and the Rise of the Religious Right in America
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:48 pm | #

CFR Creates Media Lies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...related& search=

NBC Plants Incendiary Devices to explode a GM Car [check out the young Stone Phillips]

ABC commits treason and stops truth about the 1995 OK City bombing

Bosnian hype to get us into war [you think WMD was the first time we went to war under false pretense?]
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:47 pm | #

We MUST TRIPLE our efforts to STOP the NAU and SPP and NOW! And to educate public about how bad it really is! Most people don't even know about it! Per this website, according to article they are supposed to bring up to Congress by end of summer! WE MUST NOW EDUCATE PUBLIC BIG TIME ON HOW THIS WOULD FINISH OFF AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT AND WOULD END OUR PRECIOUS FREEDOMS TOO! PLEASE, ALL write letters to editors, and papers and call on radio talk shows and the like and GET THE WORD OUT THAT NAU AND SPP WOULD DESTROY AMERICA PERIOD! PURE EVIL, SATAN WORSHIPPING BUSH AND COHORTS FROM BOTH PARTIES ARE OUT AND OUT TRAITORS AND ONLY THE BLIND, DEAF AND DUMB STILL SUPPORT THEM! RAISE HELL AND NOW! PLEASE, IF YOU LOVE AMERICA, GET THE WORD OUT ASAP ON HOW THIS WOULD DESTROY AMERICA AND FAST AND WIDELY! PLEASE? We only have month to tell all of America how bad NAU and SPP is and STOP IT! IF CONGRESS VOTES FOR NAU AND SPP, ONLY THING THAT WILL SAVE AMERICA IS A REVOLUTION PERIOD!
9-11 truther | 07.07.07 - 3:45 pm | #

Santorum probably knows there will be another false flag attack in U.S. Someone needs to grill him unmercifully and NOW, on what he knows! How does he KNOW things will change in one year? Why didn't fucking reporter quiz the shit out of Santorum further?
9-11 truther | 07.07.07 - 3:40 pm | #

>>ROBERT PASTOR IS A TRAITOR TO AMERICA!!!

YouTube - Lou Dobbs Drills Robert Pastor
true american, robert pastor is a traitor to America! (Reply ...
Watch video - 5 min -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h?v=WBB- SkrBqrY
YouTube - The Dangers of the "North American Union"
President Bush is a traitor!!!! I hope all of your spies hear ...
Watch video - 28 min -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h? v=cxzs46Nxohk
Consortiumnews.comKerry Attacker Protected Rev. Moon. By Robert Parry October 15, 2004 ..... a video that virtually calls Kerry a traitor for his anti-Vietnam War activities. ...
http://consortiumnews.com/2004/1...004/ 101504.html - 43k - Cached - Similar pages
Netctr.com - The Coming North American UnionThis man is a traitor, and proud of it. His Council on Foreign Relations should be opposed .... jrc Meet Robert Pastor: Father of the North American Union ...
http://netctr.com/ north_american...ican_union.html - 41k - Cached - Similar pages
Robert Hett Chapman, 5 Mar. 1771-18 June 1833On leaving Chapel Hill, Chapman went as pastor to the Presbyterian church in Leesburg, Loudon County, ... Return to Documenting the American South Home Page ...
http://docsouth.unc.edu/browse/ b...000298_bio.html - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Digg - Officials Meet To Implement North American UnionRobert Pastor, designer of the whole North American Union concept has been quoted as .... you're nothing but a wretched communist and a traitor to Canada. ...
http://digg.com/politics/ Officia..._American_Union - 50k - Cached -
DownThisVideo! - Download videos from YouTube, GoogleVideo ...North American Union Abomination. Robert Pastor and the Rockefeller Council on Foreign Relations are seeking now to overhtrow the US Constitution. ...
http://downthisvideo.com/tag/pastor - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:36 pm | #

And when you're caught in a lie -- well -- take a look at this short video of CHENEY and you decide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h? v=BbnpN07J_zg
jbrid1138 | 07.07.07 - 3:19 pm | #

NICE!

They continue to implicate themselves.

It is like watching someone on self destruct!
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:33 pm | #

NAU

Lou Dobbs, Virgil Goode, and Ron Paul vs. THE CFR and non-elected Robert Pastor Elitist Pig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:32 pm | #

I've posted this before BUT some things demand re-posting.

When you're hot, you're hot; when you're not, you're not

And when you're caught in a lie -- well -- take a look at this short video of CHENEY and you decide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h? v=BbnpN07J_zg
jbrid1138 | 07.07.07 - 3:19 pm | #

OMG - this is too fucking funny, ever look at video of Woodstock, Monterey, Live Aid, a, and of the 100 Amnesty International Concerts?

Watch Live Earth on Bravo....the stadium is HALF EMPTY!!!!!!!!

Is this a fucking joke??????

The commentators are almost falling asleep from boredome

Even London Stadium has large pockets of empty seats.

Sorry King Rothschild, we ain't buying anymore BS that ensslaves the next 10 generations of humans.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:13 pm | #

Open Complicity: Anatomy of the 9/11 Cover-Up
http://video.google.com/ videopla...655064407137426
If this theory is correct, it has serious ethical, health and policy implications. In particular, it points to the danger of interspecies transfer of material through vaccinations, organ transplants, etc., which could lead to new variants of AIDS as well as other new diseases. As well, studying the theory may lead to insights about responding to AIDS and preventing new diseases.

On several occasions, critics have claimed that the theory has been refuted. The Wistar Committee in 1992 said the death of a British sailor in 1959, whose tissues later tested positive for HIV, made the theory implausible. However, several years later, more sensitive tests showed no HIV in the tissues.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:59 pm | #

Is there some reason that none of the flight data recorder info correlates with ANY of the pfficial story?

Over 10 hours of on over 100 videos:

http://video.google.com/ videosea...924626286859522

more info at:

http://pilotsfor911truth.org
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:50 pm | #

The US company Canatxx plans to store huge amounts of gas in salt caverns beneath the River Wyre estuary. This short film looks at the history of the area, its wildlife and the safety issues it raises.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...210564702045756
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:46 pm | #

I just love it when an honest and sincere mechanical engineer examines the collapse of the towers of the World Trade Center and reports on the obvious unvarnished TRUTH. 9/11 was an inside job // no other way to explain all those explosive charges that were prepositioned to bring the towers down to earth. Sad but true. And the hell of it is -- those that pushed the plunger (or whatever means today's explosive charges use to set into motion the power of the same) did so without concern for human life. Murder without concern for anyone or anything demands equal treatment -- bring those guilty bastards to justice // the sooner the better for all the innocents concerned:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../ 070707Ross.htm
jbrid1138 | 07.07.07 - 2:38 pm | #

I should be well informed and more awake shortly
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:22 pm | #

cool, ya found it someplace!
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 2:23 pm | #

10 places
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:28 pm | #

I should be well informed and more awake shortly
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:22 pm | #

cool, ya found it someplace!
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 2:23 pm | #

ring of power was made by amenstop productions if thats a help to locating the right file.. the name amenstop is about how we are conditioned to say AMEN at the end of a prayer, this is calling the names of AMON RA, AMENHOTEP, etc.. the egyptian sun god, or pagan man-gods .. conditioning, brainwashings. the power of words.
to most "hard nosed christians" this is to suggest total blasphemy, but ring of power shows it all as a real possibility and conspiracy.. as well as false flag attacks, the rothschilds, the pope, the tribe of DAN, VIkings, its something else sane.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 2:13 pm | #

hell, if I could contact ya without opening personal cans of worms I'd send ring of power at ya there. it was torrented.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 2:04 pm | #

I can do that, I'll check it out.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:09 pm | #
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I should be well informed and more awake shortly
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:22 pm | #

off the wall but here goes somethin.. lol

and the preacher from his podium told us all that the great day was upon us, and the sky was purple.. as I was heading out the door he handed me a pair of rose colored glasses, when I stepped outside I saw indeed his words were true.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 2:19 pm | #

hell, if I could contact ya without opening personal cans of worms I'd send ring of power at ya there. it was torrented.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 2:04 pm | #

I can do that, I'll check it out.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:09 pm | #

9/11 Mysteries Second Edition On Line Now

911 Mysteries Part 1 - Demolitions (2ed.) 1of3
http://video.google.com/ videopla...331984890658202
911 Mysteries Part 1 - Demolitions (2ed.) 2of3
30 min - Jun 23, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...616329475082196
911 Mysteries Part 1 - Demolitions (2ed.) 3of3
31 min - Jun 23, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...263701753064760
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:06 pm | #

hell, if I could contact ya without opening personal cans of worms I'd send ring of power at ya there. it was torrented.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 2:04 pm | #

And King James is looked at as preceding the major NWO revisions by the Papal coup d'tat of religious freedoms.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:54 pm | #

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wait till ya watch "ring of power" sane... its even more real than that..
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:59 pm | #
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I saw the 5 hours of vatican assassins videos and find about 5 pieces of "questionable issues."

But there is some incredible information there.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:01 pm | #

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=15289#106383

I like this idea better than martial law.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:46 pm | #
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I still think they will try to convince us that the planet is uninhabitable and lead US into the underground...the movies are conditioning us for this.

But truth is traveling fast so they might be giving up on this plan.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:56 pm | #

Sorry for the bible thumping but I present this to demonstrate a logical point. It seems disinfo agents are now using the whole "see the bible said we need NWO." as another in the long line of lies. Luckily the Internet has a few cherry resources to examine each verse in a multitude of versions and revisions. Take dipshit's book/verse and see the many interpetations:
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American Standard Version
For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual `hosts' of wickedness in the heavenly `places'.
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Amplified® Bible [wow someone trademarked a bible-WAKE UP!!!]
For we are not wrestling with flesh and blood [contending only with physical opponents], but against the despotisms, against the powers, against [the master spirits who are] the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spirit forces of wickedness in the heavenly (supernatural) sphere.
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Contemporary English Version
We are not fighting against humans. We are fighting against forces and authorities and against rulers of darkness and powers in the spiritual world.
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Darby English Version
because our struggle is not against blood and flesh, but against principalities, against authorities, against the universal lords of this darkness, against spiritual [power] of wickedness in the heavenlies.
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Good News Bible
For we are not fighting against human beings but against the wicked spiritual forces in the heavenly world, the rulers, authorities, and cosmic powers of this dark age.
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International Standard Version
For our struggle is not against a human opponent, but against rulers, against authorities, against cosmic powers in the darkness around us, against evil spiritual forces in the heavenly realm.
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King James Version
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Young's Literal Translation
because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places;
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Here are the weapons against the fake followers:
http://bibletools.org//index.cfm...ID/1/eVerseID/ 1
http://www.biblegateway.com/

And King James is looked at as preceding the major NWO revisions by the Papal coup d'tat of religious freedoms.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:54 pm | #

patriot; I do not believe it is yet too late. But I do agree that such a time is apon us. As I Have said to many people. The power granted to us to amend or abolish any part of our government lies in the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independance. Anyone can find this at www.archives.gov The Declaration of Independance: A Transcription.
The power to do something is not enough. Action is required. My suggestion would be to utilize our grass roots movements to organize and concentrate our efforts toward these specific ends.
A) Establish in petition form those persons portions or powers we wish to abolish or amend
Make it realistic. -(No one is going to agree with suplanting our whole government and rightly so.)
B) Establish an agreeable solution to that which should be corrected.
C) Locate credible information recources to help gather the incriminating evidence we need to present to the general public as reason for action. (although we ourselves are not officers of the law or providing evidence to a court and therby not duly required by law to obtain search warrents credibility itself is of great importance)
D) Submit this to the people of this country and start getting signitures.
I'm quite aware that it is not this simple. But it is a place to start. A conciderable amount of evidence is already available as most people know. But perhaps a bit of follow up or formatting may be needed.
I'd love to here some responses on this.
mike s | 07.07.07 - 1:53 pm | #

what they did for scooter libby is about the same as what/why they did for donald rumsfeld..
"hey boy, youre name is a little too hot lets get ya out of the spotlight"
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:51 pm | #

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=15289#106383

I like this idea better than martial law.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:46 pm | #

Asleep at the Wheel: Press ignores congressional OK for martial law
http://911truth.org/article.php? ...070705155751872
The following was just published in the Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting magazine, EXTRA! In addition, another excellent article is posted there right now, entitled "The Media's Mayor: Mythologizing Guiliani and 9/11" by Steve Rendall.
— Ed.
Police at G8 Protest in Georgia. Photo by Ben Dangl On October 17, 2006, when George W. Bush signed the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2007—a $538 billion military spending bill—he enacted into law a section called “Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies.” In the view of many, this Act substantially changed fundamental laws of the United States, giving Bush—and all future U.S. presidents—new and sweeping powers to use the U.S. military anywhere in the United States, virtually as he sees fit—for disaster relief, crowd control, suppression of public disorder, or any “other condition” that might arise. News coverage of these significant changes in the law has been virtually nonexistent. At nearly every stage when it might have received coverage, the news media have completely ignored the story: When the NDAA was debated, when it was passed in the House on September 29 and in the Senate on Sept. 30, 2006, when it was signed into law on October 17, and even when Senate Judiciary chair Patrick Leahy (D.-Vt.) introduced his own bill on February 7, 2007 to overturn the Oct. 17 measures, mainstream media have provided no news coverage. Only on April 24, 2007, when the first hearings were held on Leahy’s bill, did a handful of mainstream media reports appear.

What could happen under the new law? As just one example, let’s say hundreds of demonstrators in Boston engaged in civil disobedience, sitting-in on the Boston Common to protest the country’s policies in Iraq, and traffic ground to a halt. Under the new law, the president could order in the Massachusetts National Guard to clear out the protesters even if the Massachusetts governor opposed this.
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sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:44 pm | #

The Libby Commutation: Coincidence, or Conspiracy?
http://911truth.org/article.php? ...070706104326405
Thom Hartmann appropriately focuses in on a deeply troubling aspect of the Libby commutation. He asks whether Libby, Bush and Cheney conspired to buy Libby's silence on the question of White House involvement in the Plame scandal, in return for commuting and/or pardoning Libby.

The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. Libby clammed up all of a sudden in February 2007, and withdrew threats to call Cheney, Karl Rove and other White House staffers to the stand during his trial. No one does that without an assurance that they will be repaid for it.

Best of all for the criminal conspirators, since the conspiracy is ultimately unprovable, the gutless mockingbirds in the corporate press can stay silent on the conspiracy and claim there's no 'hard evidence' any deal was cut. Never mind, of course, that there is not a one of them that doesn't believe a conspiracy of silence was hatched.

Welcome to post-Constitutional USA, where obvious cover-ups are engineered in plain sight, everyone in the media knows it and no one does a goddamned thing about it. The very definition of 'dual consciousness'.

— Ed.

So here was the defense’s case: The President and Vice President of the United States conspired to cover up their own outing (through the proxy of their underlings) of a CIA officer and her undercover operation, damaging the intelligence apparatus of the United States and intimidating CIA officers worldwide, purely for political payback against Wilson and to intimidate CIA officers who may think of speaking out (or anybody related to a CIA officer who may think of speaking out).

Former President George H.W. Bush had once famously said: “I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors.”

But now that Libby’s defense team had suggested in open court that this conspiracy to expose the name of a CIA source had originated with his son, the former President was conspicuously silent.
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sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:42 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...7Airstrikes.htm

exerpt.. U.S. and NATO military officials say their tactics minimize civilian casualties and accuse the Taliban of using villagers as human shields and sheltering from raids in people's homes.

Taliban mortar bombs landed in a civilian compound in a village in Helmand province on Saturday. "Extremists have continued to show a disregard for the safety of Afghans," a U.S. spokesman said.

--oh but nevermind the blackwater mercenary contractors in the middle east who are about using the US military as human shields or cannon fodder as they do the horrible things the people in the military are forbidden to do.. leaving the soldiers to catch the bullets.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:40 pm | #

"Because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places."
Ephesians 6:12
anonymous | 07.07.07 - 1:20 pm | #
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Hey dipshit, what kind of revisionist bullshit are you peddling here. Go to King James at least [less revision before that you NWO spy]. Preddle your BS on a site where people do not have any grey matter, we are AWAKE here!

King James Translation:
6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Where the hell does it say governments [it does not even say authorities]? And spiriual wickedness in hish places does not mean wicked spirit forces in heavenly places. I cannot believe you posted that pro NWO crap here!

More in Ephesians about who the TRUTHERS are:
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6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:37 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07civilians.htm

and of course consider "terrorists" over THERE know how to make and use a car bomb, unlike the ones in england the press makes so much more noise about.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:33 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07civilians.htm

Fifty civilians, 6 U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq

Dean Yates
Reuters
Saturday July 7, 2007

too bad the "civilians" arent BLACKWATER MERCENARIES.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:31 pm | #

I'll be watching and waiting for 9:05am eastern time, when he punches his timecard and boots up the company pc....
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:27 pm | #

Morning, guess Rich has weekends off huh, wow 9-5 / M-F disinfo artist...like a new NWO factory worker. He should change his name to Winston.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:23 pm | #

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yup, it'll be peaceful till monday according to script.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:26 pm | #

lol mornin sane
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:20 pm | #
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Morning, guess Rich has weekends off huh, wow 9-5 / M-F disinfo artist...like a new NWO factory worker. He should change his name to Winston.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:23 pm | #

Whatever happened to what is right and what is wrong??????
Can one condone murder of others simply because he or she is of a US nationality.?
Any man or woman with a fully functional brain who beleives the Invasion of Iraq, the killing of 750,000 civilians was our duty as Americans, and that we as a nation are correct, are either thouroughly brainwashed, dillusional, moral cowards, followers of power, or involved in profits. Unquestionably they have no regard for our constitution, or for other human life other than their own.
Do these Iluustrious politicians we have elected, fight for our constitution, does it appear to you they have a concience allowing the murder of civilians in a Sovereign Nation we invaded under false pretense.
Senators and congressmen must have an IQ in excess of 90, yet, they do not question nor debate the abomination of 911, they do not pursue the truth to the murder of American Citizens on this day. What conclusion can anyone with a funtioning mind come to.
Habeus Corpus, our right of defense, freedom and literaly survival has been abolished. How very moral of our Goverment. Torture has become a tool of our goverment, do we as Americans find Pride in this fact.
A president of our nation was murdered, yet we accepted whatever rhetoric we were told by our Goverment. As citizens,were Americans allowed complete revelation as to the context of this atrocity. His supposed assassin Oswald was murdered by a thug, and for what reason, is it not obvious that LEE might have disproven the Elites goverments coverup. Hi brother RFK was murdered as he had declared his ambition to stop the war in vietnam. Were Americans allowed the details of the horrendous act.Or did they accept the Gov. rhetoric.
The Gulf of Tonkin,(LBJ) escalated the war and provided fortunes for the MIC and coherts, yet it was a proven deception. Did our elected officals stand up for American sons being killed becasue of this. Nor did a show of conceince move them to consider the 4 Million Civilians killed in North and South Vietnam.
The USA has a stockpile of nuclear weapons which I have been told could destroy this planet 3 times over. Is the Elite Gov. attempting to play God to third world countries who have none, or is it simply the power over others.
We have been their money to be used, their blood to be spilled, and lives lost for decades. Has this been for the American way, the Republic, the citizens, or for the Elite who control and reap power and profit.
I pray to my creator that each and every human peice of waste who profited from acts such as these are in chains, theior fortunes confiscated, and incarcerated ,war criminals, cimes against humanity, the constitution, the American people, and of course treason.
chris jones | 07.07.07 - 9:00 am | #

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chris jones | 07.07.07 - 1:23 pm | #

But can I be alone in thinking this `green' Rothschild creature is a timely intervention, in order to aid the credibility of the WORST elements of especially British greens, to say `there you are, you cannot question the official narrative of 9/11 AND be seriously interested in the Q of the phenonemon of global warming'? It may be appropriate for a Rothschild to rescue George Monbiot's `credibility' (& I stretch the term to near breaking point to encompass the smug self satisfied unthinking elements of the green movement prone to accept without Q the official narrative of 9/11 & declare anyone that Qs the ability of Bin laden to effect the NORAD standown to be a flat earther), but it surely is not ours...
Adam Ghaznavi | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:00 pm | #
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Nice one Adam (the first man fallen by that slippery devil, jk) - way to look beyond the surface level to see the puppets controlled by the papal initiatives like the green rothschilds. As you noted, it is important for us to see the JP Morgans, BP's that are funding this "green" movement so that we do not just attack the cannon fodder and go after the real criminals like the Deutche Banks that did the 911 insider trades and the Vatican that wants to use the attack to demolish the separation of church and state in this country, more here:

Understanding of the causes and reasons for the 4 reich's , 9/11 and the federal reserve:

Part 1
http://video.google.com/ videopla...834925200441495

Part2
http://video.google.com/ videopla...076800390535825

And an overall understanding of the 9/11 and the federal reserve:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...481422995115331

Keep it up Adam! Good job!
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:20 pm | #

lol mornin sane
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 1:20 pm | #

I sleep lots here, but I wonder about sane sometimes lol
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 10:43 am | #
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Me too
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:08 pm | #

Ron Paul on ABC News Speaking About $$$

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SfjdD7-2qIY
R.R.N. | 07.07.07 - 1:01 pm | #

REFLECTIONS ON THE ROLE OF THE `GREEN' ROTHSCHILD

A very rough rule of thumb is, don't do what your enemy wants you to do.

While I accept that because we have only developed the technology to study the planet properly very recently, there is at least the threat of reading more significance in the impact of a series of events (which are new to us, by virtue of the fact that we can now record them properly) than is proportionate (kind of like a man waking up from a hangover, whose senses are only blurringly coming back to him & prone in some respects to counter productive panic as to what to do, as he finds himself naked & tied up in Harlem - which may be a grave emergency, but may require a different response than the aforesaid panic produces)...
...and it IS perfectly understandable (even neccessary) to be perfectly sceptical about ANYTHING we are told from a media/ establishment that has suppressed all mention of the Fed Reserve cabal or the Petrodollar & correspondingly maintained an entirely fictitious narrative regarding the entire scope of geo political economic affairs for as long as it has been in existence...
...& it also DOES facilitate social movements (the orthodox left in supporting unlimited immigration function as a prop to hyperfascism, as the corresponding demorilisation of the USA citizenry is the DECISIVE factor allowing the core elite to retain control of the internal agenda ENABLING it to wage its Petrodollar wars to try to prop up its fraudulent currency at the point of a nuclear sixshooter) conducive to its interests...

...I think the type of all encompassing systemic fabrication of process that would have to be involved for the global warming hypothesis to be wrong are qualitatively different from those that produce the fraud in political economy (as political economy is the frontline where finance has to bring its concentration of forces to bear, to maintain their imperium).

This is not to deny that it can & does repress scientific development in areas which it does not want developed. Solar springs to mind, as solar powered microgeneration puts power literally in the hands of the (correspondingly sovereign) individual; thus breaking the power of the nexus of energy barons, banksters & secureaucrats whose power is based on the Petrodollar.

But can I be alone in thinking this `green' Rothschild creature is a timely intervention, in order to aid the credibility of the WORST elements of especially British greens, to say `there you are, you cannot question the official narrative of 9/11 AND be seriously interested in the Q of the phenonemon of global warming'?

It may be appropriate for a Rothschild to rescue George Monbiot's `credibility' (& I stretch the term to near breaking point to encompass the smug self satisfied unthinking elements of the green movement prone to accept without Q the official narrative of 9/11 & declare anyone that Qs the ability of Bin laden to effect the NORAD standown to be a flat earther), but it surely is not ours...
Adam Ghaznavi | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 1:00 pm | #

Seems to me Alex needs to learn some interrogation techniques, he could have got Rothchild, to run his mouth a little more, Rangers Guide to Interviews, Investagations and Interrigations. would be a good read for him
Bob Jones | 07.07.07 - 12:58 pm | #

time to wake up and smell the coffee
one man will rise up and most likely fall
this has happened and will continue to happen
many have come and gone for truth
in america it is a mans job to stand for truth
it may be a truthers job to die for liberty and justice
and even if the story is not known to all the world here
it will be a story that angels will sing in heaven
many will be imprisoned, and many will be taken
but "we the people" will rise to meet the chalenge
we will persist, and we will prevail
so look accross the landscape of images in your mind
analyze them before you put your mind in motion
you gotta fully learn to use your right mind before
you learn to us deadly force of any sort
ah but havent we been fighting this thing since 1776
hasnt it been a battle between men since Jesus died on the cross and rose again the third day?

every year that has went by from then (and before that) til right now this moment has been this same everbuilding saga

ready to climax in our lifetime (possibly)

and we are here

with:

a. a knowledge of God and Christ in the end times of TIME ITSELF

b. a citizenship to heaven and america the one eternal and the other WITH FOUNDING FATHERS THAT KICKED SOME
BUTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO WAKE UP

on this day

7-7-07

this is the day that The Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it
baldmanace | 07.07.07 - 12:24 pm | #

there is no one else can lay the hole problem out like that so short and right to the truth
Anonymous | 07.07.07 - 11:24 am | #

Patriot im without words speachless no one not even ron could put it any better excellent
Anonymous | 07.07.07 - 11:22 am | #

This response will probably be lost in the flood of e-mails being posted but I ask one thing of the next reader here to notice my input - PASS THIS ON!

IT IS ALREADY TOO LATE to take our government back without a fight. And I say this for one reason - the pardon of Libby by our Moron-in-Chief. In that deliberately defiant act, Bush literally gave WE THE PEOPLE the finger! And he did so because he KNOWS that martial law is just around the corner. Both he and Insaney Cheney KNOW that there will not be enough time for either of them to be impeached for their collective and individual heinous and treasonous acts. Speaker-ette Nancy PeLousy saw to that when she said, right after her Party won last November, that "Impeachment of either men will not happen." That one treasonous statement has given the Diabolical Duo seven more months to plan for and act on when they will unleash the next level of Hell on this nation.

PLEASE - if you have even an ounce of courage in your body and you want to save not only yourself but your loved ones, start calling your local television and radio stations and newspapers and tell them that you will not listen to the lies that they are propagating for this evil administration. That's all you have to do - just call those stations and tell them you are wise to the lies they are collaborating to spread.

Forget contacting the traitors in DC. Every one of them is a lost cause. ACT LOCALLY! Put the screws to your local powers-that-be. Pressure them to remember that they can become targets of local pressure, in whatever forms needs to be taken. Push back on those closest to home and make them nervous, which will send a collective message to the traitors in DC that WE THE PEOPLE will no longer give shelter and comfort to the traitors of this nation.

There is no more time to waste. If you do not act NOW at your local level, then I fear that within a very short time, the Diabolical Duo will have unleashed the next level of Hell and it will too late to fight martial law (which Bush is just aching to test out.)

ACT LOCALLY - ACT LOCALLY - ACT LOCALLY. And get t-shirts and signs out there that say "WE ARE WISE TO THE LIES."

God Bless and help us to save this great NATION!!!!!!!!!
Patriot | 07.07.07 - 11:06 am | #

US concerns over China weapons in Iraq the us exports more weapons than anybody it in newsweek you got to be kidding me they think people are still that nieave and stupid
Anonymous | 07.07.07 - 11:05 am | #

great idea ?

first generate a huge nuclear threat, then when all the "officials" and "elite" run and hide in their bomb shelter bunkers, seal them in from the outside and leave them there forever, thereby removing the majority of the terrorists from the face of the earth.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 10:50 am | #

I sleep lots here, but I wonder about sane sometimes lol
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 10:43 am | #

I read through the comments section sometimes and what do I notice???

Two posters are the bulk of the comments.

SANE and SEES THINGS.

Holy Carpel Tunnel Syndrome Batman!

When do you two sleep?
Citizen Pawn | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 10:40 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...070707green.htm

yes exactly, lets build 300 huge bonfires to combat global warming... fathom the logic.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 10:23 am | #

who the fuck do these people think they are!!! MAN, im loosin my hope in the American people, everyones soo fucking concernced about there football games or 22inch rims on there fucking cars while the ground enfolds! man, im only 21 and I have learned more in the past 2 years than any 50 year old man!!!!!!!
jesse | 07.07.07 - 10:18 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...070707China.htm

US concerns over China weapons in Iraq

Demetri Sevastopulo
FT.com
Saturday July 7, 2007

The US has raised concerns with the Chinese government about the discovery of Chinese-made weapons in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Richard Lawless, departing senior Pentagon official for Asia, on Friday said Washington had flagged the issue with Beijing. In recent months, the US has become increasingly alarmed that Chinese armour-piercing ammunition has been used by the Taliban in Afghanistan and insurgents in Iraq......

like THIS is a surprise ?!! them in DC have bent over backwards to help move near all production of consumer goods to there making America unemployed.. unless ya work at a damn Walmart..
and the chinese are funding this bogus war with the profit capability that was handed them... it's a surprise they took some lessons from the rothschild's to fund both sides of a war to control the outcome ?! DUUUHH !!
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 10:11 am | #

Unfortunate events that Dick fully supports.
Blueglow | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 9:57 am | #

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yup, one of the biggest bullying control freaks we got.. cheney.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 10:02 am | #

Unfortunate events that Dick fully supports.
Blueglow | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 9:57 am | #

I'm not a violent person and to instigate violence is a dishonorable thing. if someone brings violence upon me, it is also not dishonorable to grab up something heavy and bash the livin chit out of them. if they happen to wear a badge and a gun the same rule applies, and trust that I'm not thinking about rules at that point, only unleashing the wrath of god. anyone looking to punish ME or defend the creature who had attacked me is of the same evil as the attacker. think about it.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 9:09 am | #

http://infowars.net/articles/ jul...060707gangs.htm

police are gangs(ters!) too!

.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 8:57 am | #

>>>>>ABC Commits Terror...AGAIN...Tells Everyone the Internet Creates Global Terror!
_____________________________________
Actual headline:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?...TC- RSSFeeds0312
"Internet the Breeding Ground for Global Terrorism"

Subheadline:
_______________________________
Fertile Ground for Recruitment
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Three men were jailed Thursday in London for allegedly inciting terror on the Internet.

They are accused of posting recruitment videos and terror attack footage and hosting online chat forums about terrorism. One message, posted in 2005, reads: "We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America."

The possible targets mentioned in those Internet posts include a naval base in Florida, an unspecified army base in Virginia and the Guantanamo Bay detention center.

FBI officials tell ABC News those threats are most likely terrorist bravado, but they are still being cautious.

"Any threat should be taken seriously and chatter sometimes results in attacks," said FBI agent Glen Jenvey.

Web sites also serve to encourage terrorist recruits.

"It's the growth place for terrorist recruitment, and particularly among the 15- to 25-year-old," said Sally Leivesley, a terrorism adviser to the British government, "and sometimes they're recruited either as fighters, suicide bombers or even to do reconnaissance on our cities."
____________________________________

We all know that the Internet has been the greatest preventer of the global war on terror as we no longer allow the bullshit to go without checks and balances, like the lies about terror leaders dying twice!
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:51 am | #

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the BIGGEST promoter of terrorism by the actual terrorists is the "we are out to get you" declarations. "we are watching, we will catch you, we have declared war upon you" where it is now viewed as a threat and a challenge, games of fear and revenge. the BIGGEST instigator of the so called "homegrown terrorists" is attacks upon our god given constitutionally mentioned freedoms. if "the new sherriff in town" is a totally corrupt violent bastard prick and gets shot in the head - is the person who served real justice a terrorist? they are if the system that hired the evil prick is as much a corrupt violent bastard prick.
a terrorist to the evil ones. its all as brilliant as the FOXworthy test.. if you punch a bully in the nose and draw blood.. you might be a terrorist!

its ALL a sick game they are playing, trying to take rights and freedoms is the same as terrorisms and commands issued by a bully. the governments have no excuse for playing like this.
the BULLY is the unhappy one
the BULLY is the control freak
the BULLY.. is the terrorist.
Sees Things | 07.07.07 - 8:49 am | #

Alice Bailey - Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle

http://www.scribd.com/doc/5368/A...Etheric- Vehicle
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:28 am | #

Andrew Jackson Davis - Death and the After- Life
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5371/A...-the-After- Life
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:27 am | #

Posted 1 hr. 4 min. ago
ANBAR'S WAR
Tribes Stockpile Weapons, Driving up Prices
Report: Arming of Anti-Qa'ida Tribes Sparks Arms Race Among Anbar Clansmen
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...Dems_Prez_Hopes
Photo by Mohammad Khodor/AFP.
A Kalashnikov is raised at the funeral of Sheikh Kamal Shakur, the head of Falluja city council in Feb. 2005.
Tribes in western Iraq, and in and around Anbar province specifically, have begun stockpiling different sorts of weapons, driving up the prices of weapons in the Iraqi market, al-Malaf Press reports in Arabic.

The agency writes that the alleged tribal buildup focuses on Kalashnikov rifles, in addition to other types of light and medium weapons such as mortar shells and launchers, PKCs and others.

Because the tribal arms buildup has reached unprecedented levels, the prices of arms have spiked to new highs in the area, al-Melaf Press reports.

One Kalashnikov in Anbar province goes for 750,000 Iraqi dinars
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:20 am | #

Footage From Ex-Priest's Slaying on Net
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...eoghan-slaying/
BOSTON — A prison security video showing guards struggling to enter a cell where a convicted killer was strangling a defrocked pedophile priest has turned up on the Internet.

State prison officials were investigating how the 10-minute video, shot from outside former Roman Catholic priest John Geoghan's cell during his slaying, made it onto YouTube.

The video was posted last month and may have been brought to the Boston Herald's attention by Joseph Druce, who was convicted in January of killing Geoghan at the Souza-Baranowski maximum security prison in August 2003.

"The truth about officer involvement in John Geogan's (sic) death," a handwritten note sent to the Herald and signed "Joseph Lee Druce" says.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:05 am | #

Federal Plans For Border Crossing Station Found In KXAN Dumpster
http://www.kxan.com/global/story...y.asp? s=6752652
Sensitive government documents turned up in KXAN Austin News' Dumpster in Central Austin. Included in the bound 189-page document were preliminary plans for the expansion of a U.S.-Mexico border crossing station in El Paso. "It was before our Sunday 5 p.m. show, and I was just coming out here to catch a break, gather my thoughts and get ready for the show," said technical director Robert Lovelace after he found the documents. "And I walked down this way, and I just happened to look over at this temporary Dumpster, and I saw the words 'Homeland Security' in big black letters on a piece of paper here, which of course, piqued my curiosity." Lovelace stumbled on a document prepared for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. General Services Administration. "Everything, sprinkler systems, electrical, structure points, stress points, everything that if I was a bad guy, I would want to get my hands on," Lovelace KXAN Austin News showed the documents to a representative of the General Services Administration who was not authorized to comment, but he informed the regional GSA office in Fort Worth. A representative there declined a request for an on-camera interview, but Scott Armey, the agency's regional administrator issued this statement:

"The U.S. General Services Administration takes its responsibility on security matters very seriously. Therefore, this matter has been referred to the GSA Inspector General's Office. The contract relating to the Ysleta project requires documents that no longer needed to be destroyed. Destruction shall be done by burning or shredding hardcopy. We have sent formal letters of instruction to our prime contractors on this project to make sure all rules and responsibilities of the contract are followed. Further action could be taken following the completion of the inspector general's investigation."

No one from the GSA or any other federal agency requested the return of the documents.

The temporary Dumpsters behind KXAN Austin News are for the work crews that have put the finishing touches on the station's brand-new set.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 7:03 am | #

Confession to the Jesuits No. 30: Jesuits have silenced President Lincoln's words but finally these words have been uncovered.
http://arcticbeacon.com/articles...3-Jun- 2007.html
Lincoln warned Americans about the Papacy and Jesuit's true intentions and for that he was killed just like President Kennedy.

By Greg Szymanski, JD
June 13, 2007

The Jesuit Order has kept its deep, dark and evil past well hidden form
the world, including the apathetic, mind-controlled, manipulated and
brainwashed American people.

Credible researchers contend the Jesuit Order are the real spiritual
controllers of the New World Order, controlling this world takeover with
enormous hidden wealth and a stranglehold over world government leaders,
including those in control of fascist America.

However, no matter how much credible information comes forward, both the
alternative and mainstream media cover it up since researchers contend
the Jesuit power and money influence has almost total control of American
freedom of speech.

To illustrate how corrupted most alternative and mainstream media outlets
have become, why have they ignored the words of President Abraham Lincoln
when solid evidence exists he was killed by an organized Jesuit hit team.

Since the intentions of the Papacy and its Jesuit henchmen never change,
that being total world fascism and genocide of all Jews, Christians and
Muslims, here are Lincoln's words about Jesuit evils during the Civil War
and a reprinting of the Jesuit Fourth Vow, illustrating just how history
will repeat itself if the Jesuits are not exposed and then ousted from
this country like they have been in scores of other countries throughout
the course of history.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:53 am | #

ISN'T IT STRANGE FOR JESUIT PRIESTS TO HOLD SUCH PATENTS?
http://arcticbeacon.com/articles...4-Jun- 2007.html
"Jesuit Patents http://www.wired.com/wired/archi...start.html? pg=4

According to Wired, the Jesuits own the following equipment patents: Patent No. 5,054,310: Ultrasonic beam tester "The California Province of the Society of Jesus, a Jesuit organization, holds the patent on this curious contraption, used to calibrate and test ultrasonic medical equipment such as the pulse-echo body scanner."

"Patent No. 4,403,916: Wind turbine "Another Jesuit group, the Chicago
Province of the Society of Jesus, holds the patent on this electricity-generating windmill. The device powers farm well pumps and air compressors and boasts of a "novel oscillating tail structure."

From: http://dappledphotos.blogspot.co...hty- mitres.html

"Papal financier and banker Illuminists, Warren Buffett, and one of the
keepers of the Vatican treasury, Lord Jacob Rothschild, backed Masonic
Fascist Gov. Arnold S. with Christoph Cardinal Schoenborn of Vienna at a
Mass for the Dead."
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/ 7...l_und_Arnie.jpg

Caption reads:

"Christoph Cardinal Schoenborn, the Archbishop of Vienna, is shown here after celebrating a Mass for the Dead. As befits such an austere ceremony, the Cardinal is wearing the simple mitre of plain white damask. This would also be the kind of mitre he would wear if in thepresence of the Pope."
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:52 am | #

Now praying gets 7 Christians arrested-Cops call holding Bibles while lying prostrate 'disturbing peace'
Posted: July 7, 2007 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Bob Unruh
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56544
Christians have been arrested recently at "gay" festivals for nothing more than having a protest sign that is "wider than their torso," but now police have gone even further, targeting Bible-carrying ministers for praying on public property and for standing on a public sidewalk near a "gay" festival. One of the new cases comes from Elmira, N.Y., where police arrested seven Christians who went into a public park where a "gay" fest was beginning and started to pray, faces down, while holding their Bibles. They were cited for "disturbing the peace," and Assistant Police Chief Mike Robertson told WND that the seven are accused of a "combination" of allegations under that statute, which includes the "intent" to cause a public inconvenience, any "disturbance" of a meeting of persons, obstructing vehicular or pedestrian traffic, or taking part in "any act that serves no legitimate purpose."

Could immigration plan return? Senator says 'folks want to focus on enforcement' now
Posted: July 7, 2007 1:00 a.m. Eastern
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56557
The comprehensive immigration reform plan to legalize the estimated 12-20 million illegal aliens in the U.S. is dead for now, but a prominent senator who supported the compromise crafted by President Bush, Democrats and key Republicans says the problem remains and must be addressed. "I think the bill we had on the Senate floor is dead," Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., told Hugh Hewitt's radio show on KRLA radio. "[But] it doesn't mean there won't be some effort to work on the problem. The problem still exists," Kyl said. "But I'm not sure the political will is there to do anything."

Illegal alien law could be nation's toughest
County set to pass plan denying services, requiring police to check status
Posted: July 6, 2007 7:05 p.m. Eastern
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56555
Prince Williams Country Supervisor John T. Stirrup Jr. A Virginia county is considering possibly the nation's toughest local measures to stop illegal immigration, including a requirement that police check residency status of anyone detained for breaking the law, no matter how small the infraction. Prince William County, the state's second largest, also wants schools and agencies, including medical clinics and swimming pools, to verify the legal status of people who want to use their services, the Washington Post reports. The paper said a resolution to be voted on the county Board of Supervisors Tuesday could prompt legal challenges as courts have upheld the right of illegal immigrants to a public education.

Hazleton mayor loses key argument for illegal immigrant crackdown
MICHAEL RUBINKAM The Associated Press
http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp? h...tcrackdown.html
ALLENTOWN, Pa. - The mayor of Hazleton has long cited the May 2006 shooting death of a 29-year-old city man as the impetus for his widely emulated crackdown on illegal immigrants. But on Friday, prosecutors dropped homicide charges against the two illegal immigrants accused of shooting Derek Kichline , depriving Mayor Lou Barletta of one of his key arguments for kicking illegal immigrants out of Hazleton. Luzerne County prosecutors said they abandoned the case against Joan Romero and Pedro Cabrera because key witnesses were either unavailable or unreliable, not because they were convinced of Romero's and Cabrera's innocence. But Barletta's critics quickly pointed to the decision as evidence that the mayor jumped to conclusions when he accused illegal immigrants of wrecking his northeastern Pennsylvania city of more than 30,000. "This dismissal of charges adds to the long list of discredited claims Barletta has made in the course of demonizing undocumented immigrants for allegedly destroying Hazleton," said Witold J. Walczak, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania. Barletta called Walczak's statement "repulsive."
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:44 am | #

The Federal Reserve is PRIVATELY OWNED by Thomas D. Schauf
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63639/...Thomas-D- Schauf
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:13 am | #

cyber counterinsurgency by Thomas
http://www.scribd.com/doc/119093...gency-by- Thomas
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:12 am | #

T. Jefferson- S. Adams letters
http://www.scribd.com/doc/12305/...S-Adams- letters
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:02 am | #

David Hatcher Childress - Antigravity and the world grid (1987)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/91705/...world-grid- 1987
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 6:01 am | #

Testimony of Jessica Lynch
http://www.scribd.com/doc/179300...f-Jessica- Lynch
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:57 am | #

The Use of RNC E-Mail Accounts by White House Officials
http://www.scribd.com/doc/179296...House- Officials
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:56 am | #

The Project Gutenberg EBook of Secret Societies And Subversive Movements
http://www.scribd.com/doc/66302/...rsive- Movements
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:55 am | #

>>George W. Bush's Presidential Advance Manual
http://www.yourleaders.org/ georg..._advance_manual
This manual was written by the Bush Administration as guidelines of what to do before the president arrived. Includes - how to hide protestors so the president doesn't have to see/hear them, and if that doesn't work, how to send your own people as a counter-protest to drown them out and block their view. This is real. Most of it is redacted. Below is both an embedded PDF version, which can be downloaded as a PDF, .DOC, or text file, and below that is a transcript of the document which can be cut and pasted.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 5:48 am | #

FOX: Clinton gains support from 'Extraterrestrial Phenomenon PAC' David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Friday July 6, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ FO...strial_0706.htm
"Is the government covering up the existence of aliens?" Fox News asked on the 60th anniversary of the 1947 incident in Roswell, New Mexico. Fox then spoke to Stephen Bassett, executive director of of the Extraterrestrial Phenomenon Political Action Committee, which believes all the presidential candidates "need to speak to this issue. I've had people inside government confirm the ET presence to me," said Bassett, citing New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson as someone who has stated that the Roswell incident ought to be reinvestigated. Bassett supports a Hillary Clinton-Bill Richardson ticket in 2008, because he believes the White House under Bill Clinton was aware of extraterrestrials. "This is serious business," Bassett concluded. The following video is from Fox's Fox & Friends, broadcast on July 6.
Anonymous | 07.07.07 - 5:38 am | #

Just a thought. If the Elite want one world order. Who at the moment is standing in thier way,? Apart from Alex Jones and others. or should I put the question is the Iraq war about defeating Islam because the followers allegiance will be with Allah and not the New World Order. Just as Cristianity and Jesus stands in the way of the Elites Utopia.
Peter Buck | 07.07.07 - 4:16 am | #

BREAKTHROUGH! Supercomputer's algo predicts HIV's stealthy moves
http://www.newscientist.com/arti...e.ns? id=dn12205
With the help of a supercomputer and a clever algorithm, scientists can now pinpoint how specific viral mutations allow HIV to hide from the body's defences, and thereby wreak havoc within cells. The researchers believe that their new study provides a "cheat-sheet" detailing the stealthy moves the virus can make.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:02 am | #

Does Tony Blair Deserve a Congessional Medal? by Ron Paul
http://www.house.gov/paul/congre...03/ cr062503.htm
Ron Paul owns everyone who supports this type of thing.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:02 am | #

An Open Letter to High-School Students: Pay Attention to Government
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0703d.asp
To every high-school student in this country between the ages of 15 and 18, this letter is to you. If there is ever something that you should take the time to learn about, it is government.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:01 am | #

Teachers - What you need to know about Politicians & No Child Left Behind
http://robina-beyondnumbers.blog...s.blogspot.com/
Would you pay $100 to educate your child if you knew only $30 would be used for that purpose. That's what the Department of Education does. The DOE absorbs 60% of Federal Tax dollars earmarked for Education, only 40% is returned to the States - 10% is wasted by the States on compliance. NCLB almost doubled the size of DOE = Less $ for Schools
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 4:00 am | #

War on Drugs Goes Low-Tech After $5 Billion Wasted
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...mail/ components
Tax-funded U.S. high-tech solution fails.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:59 am | #

Scientists Want to Search for “weird life”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/0...l? ex=1341460800
A panel of scientists convened by the country ’s leading scientific advisory group says the hunt for extraterrestrial life should be greatly expanded to include what they call “weird life”: organisms that lack DNA or other molecules found in life as we know it.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:57 am | #

correction: Internet is the greatest preventer of global terrorism [not GWOT]

but in actuality GWOT has increased terrorism tenfold, so maybe preventing GWOT will prevent global terrorism.
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:55 am | #

Hey teacher, leave those kids alone:
http://www.cinestatic.com/infini...sans- 713195.jpg
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:40 am | #

Taking the Temperature of the Presidential Candidates
http://www.michaelmoore.com/sick...ale/candidates/
Contributions from the Health Industry - January 1st to March 31st, 2007
HMOs, pharmaceutical companies, physicians and other health professionals.
(First FEC cycle of 2007) Source: Center for Responsive Politics
Hillary Clinton $848,872
Mitt Romney $830,285
Barack Obama $566,638
John McCain $409,751
Rudy Giuliani $401,422
John Edwards $212,200
Bill Richardson $185,000
Christopher Dodd $84,900
Joseph Biden $57,775
Sam Brownback $38,050
Mike Huckabee $18,050
Ron Paul $11,000
Tommy Thompson $9,100
Jim Gilmore $7,500
Dennis Kucinich $7,050
Tom Tancredo $5,050
Duncan Hunter $4,250
Mike Gravel $500
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:39 am | #

"The priesthood have, in all ancient nations, nearly monopolized learning. And ever since the Reformation, when or where has existed a Protestant or dissenting sect who would tolerate A FREE INQUIRY? The blackest billingsgate, the most ungentlemanly insolence, the most yahooish brutality, is patiently endured, countenanced, propagated, and applauded. But touch a solemn truth in collision with a dogma of a sect, though capable of the clearest proof, and you will find you have disturbed a nest, and the hornets will swarm about your eyes and hand, and fly into your face and eyes." - letter to John Taylor
http://altreligion.about.com/ lib...ndersquotes.htm
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 3:28 am | #

do you darn Patriots ever quit??

Sure - when it's a cold day in hell.

People who care for this country and worry about what is being done in it's name, are the last obstacle. Without these people the NWO has a clear path to tyranny. So I'll quit when my cold, lifeless body is no more and even then, where I lay another shall rise.

It's not something patriots worry about because basically fighting for something better, something right and just, is in their blood - it's second nature and the day we close out mouths in order to please other people is as mentioned, the day hell freezes over.
BG | 07.07.07 - 3:25 am | #

>>>Founding Fathers Point of View on The Roman Catholic Church and the Jesuits
http://www.zenhell.com/GetEnligh...oundingFathers/
__________________________
John Adams
"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?" ..........To F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816

"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved--the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!" ..........To Thomas Jefferson

"What havoc has been made of books through every century of the Christian era? Where are fifty gospels, condemned as spurious by the bull of Pope Gelasius? Where are the forty wagon-loads of Hebrew manuscripts burned in France, by order of another pope, because suspected of heresy? Remember the 'index expurgatorius', the inquisition, the stake, the axe, the halter and the guillotine." ..........To John Taylor
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Abraham Lincoln
"The bible is not my book and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long complicated statements of Christian dogma."

"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them."
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>>>Founding Fathers Point of View on The Roman Catholic Church and the Jesuits
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Thomas Jefferson
"But the greatest of all reformers of the depraved religion of his own country, was Jesus of Nazareth. Abstracting what is really his from the rubbish in which it is buried, easily distinguished by its lustre from the dross of his biographers, and as separable from that as the diamond from the dunghill, we have the outlines of a system of the most sublime morality which has ever fallen from the lips of man. The establishment of the innocent and genuine character of this benevolent morality, and the rescuing it from the imputation of imposture, which has resulted from artificial systems, invented by ultra-Christian sects (The immaculate conception of Jesus, his deification, the creation of the world by him, his miraculous powers, his resurrection and visible ascension, his corporeal presence in the Eucharist, the Trinity; original sin, atonement, regeneration, election, orders of the Hierarchy, etc.) is a most desirable object." ..........To W. Short, Oct. 31, 1819

"The Christian god is a three headed monster, cruel, vengeful, and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites."

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."

"Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus."

I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and state...........Letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, January 1, 1802

"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read, 'a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;' the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination."

"When we see religion split into so many thousands of sects, and I may say Christianity itself divided into it's thousands also, who are disputing, anathematizing, and where the laws permit, burning and torturing one another for abstractions which no one of them understand, and which are indeed beyond the comprehension of the human mind, into which of the chambers of this Bedlam would a man wish to thrust himself. The sum of all religion as expressed by it's best preacher, 'fear god and love thy neighbor,' contains no mystery, needs no explanation - but this wont do. It gives no scope to make dupes; priests could not live by it." ..........Letter to George Logan, November 12, 1816

"In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot ... they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purpose."
..........To Horatio Spafford, March 17, 1814

"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." .........."Notes on Virginia"

"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." ..........To Peter Carr, Aug. 10, 1787

"It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they believe in the Platonic mysticisms that three are one, and one is three; and yet that the one is not three, and the three are not one. But this constitutes the craft, the power and the profit of the priests." ..........To John Adams, 1803

"But a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of the Jewish religion, before his principles were departed from by those who professed to be his special servants, and perverted into an engine for enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in Church and State." ..........To S. Kercheval, 1810

"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose." ..........To Baron von Humboldt, 1813

"On the dogmas of religion, as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarreling, fighting, burning and torturing one another, for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and to all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension of the human mind." ..........To Carey, 1816

"It is not to be understood that I am with him (Jesus Christ) in all his doctrines. I am a Materialist; he takes the side of Spiritualism; he preaches the efficacy of repentance toward forgiveness of sin; I require a counterpoise of good works to redeem it. Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others, again, of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being. I separate, therefore, the gold from the dross; restore him to the former, and leave the latter to the stupidity of some, the roguery of others of his disciples. Of this band of dupes and imposters, Paul was the great Coryphaeus, and the first corruptor of the doctrines of Jesus." ..........To W. Short, 1820

"The office of reformer of the superstitions of a nation, is ever more dangerous. Jesus had to work on the perilous confines of reason and religion; and a step to the right or left might place him within the grasp of the priests of the superstition, a bloodthirsty race, as cruel and remorseless as the being whom they represented as the family God of Abraham, of Isaac and of Jacob, and the local God of Israel. That Jesus did not mean to impose himself on mankind as the son of God, physically speaking, I have been convinced by the writings of men more learned than myself in that lore." ..........To Story, Aug. 4, 1820

"The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man. But compare with these the demoralizing dogmas of Calvin.
1. That there are three Gods.
2. That good works, or the love of our neighbor, is nothing.
3. That faith is every thing, and the more incomprehensible the proposition, the more merit the faith.
4. That reason in religion is of unlawful use.
5. That God, from the beginning, elected certain individuals to be saved, and certain others to be damned; and that no crimes of the former can damn them; no virtues of the latter save." ..........To Benjamin Waterhouse, Jun. 26, 1822
"Creeds have been the bane of the Christian church ... made of Christendom a slaughter-house." ..........To Benjamin Waterhouse, Jun. 26, 1822
"The truth is, that the greatest enemies of the doctrine of Jesus are those, calling themselves the expositors of them, who have perverted them to the structure of a system of fancy absolutely incomprehensible, and without any foundation in his genuine words. And the day will come, when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." ..........To John Adams, Apr. 11, 1823
"The metaphysical insanities of Athanasius, of Loyola, and of Calvin, are, to my understanding, mere lapses into polytheism, differing from paganism only by being more unintelligible."
..........To Jared Sparks, 1820
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Benjamin Franklin
"The nearest I can make it out, 'Love your enemies' means, 'Hate your Friends'."

The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason. -- Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758

"If we look back into history for the character of the present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practiced it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England blamed persecution in the Romish Church, but practiced it upon the Puritans. They found it wrong in Bishops, but fell into the practice themselves both here (England) and in New England."

"As to Jesus of Nazareth...I think the system of morals and his religion, as he left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupting changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England, some doubts as to his divinity."

"I think vital religion has always suffered when orthodoxy is more regarded than virtue. The scriptures assure me that at the last day we shall not be examined on what we thought but what we did." ..........Letter to his father, 1738

"I cannot conceive otherwise than that He, the Infinite Father, expects or requires no worship or praise from us, but that He is even infinitely above it." .........."Articles of Belief and Acts of Religion", Nov. 20, 1728

"I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works ... I mean real good works ... not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing ... or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity." ..........Works, Vol. VII, p. 75
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James Madison
"Every new and successful example therefore of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance" ..........James Madison, 1822, Writings, 9:101

"Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history" ..........James Madison, undated, William and Mary Quarterly, 1946, 3:555

"Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."

"What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not." .........."A Memorial and Remonstrance", 1785

"Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." ..........."A Memorial and Remonstrance", 1785

"The appropriation of funds of the United States for the use and support of religious societies, [is] contrary to the article of the Constitution which declares that 'Congress shall make no law respecting a religious establishment'"..........James Madison, 1811, Writings, 8:133
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Thomas Paine
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church."

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."

"I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to that book (the Bible)."

"It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible."

"Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses. Here is an order, attributed to 'God' to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and to debauch and rape the daughters. I would not dare so dishonor my Creator's name by (attaching) it to this filthy book (the Bible)."

"Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins...and you will have sins in abundance."

"The Christian church has set up a religion of pomp and revenue in pretended imitation of a person (Jesus) who lived a life of poverty."
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What a joke. We should actually have the roaming gnome as a president.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 3:19 am | #

Since I seem to have the floor, I will take advantage.
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Keep an eye on the enemy.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 3:10 am | #

I take periodic breaks, but I still muse about the NWO. Never quit.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.07.07 - 3:09 am | #

do you darn Patriots ever quit??
Michael D. | 07.07.07 - 1:56 am | #

FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.07.07 - 2:16 am | #

Guess I should listen more and talk less sometimes.
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Indeed
Michael D. | 07.07.07 - 1:59 am | #

do you darn Patriots ever quit??
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Colombia fights back, and it is only starting
http://www.topix.net/world/spain...s-only- starting
There was an election today in Colombia and the FARC lost by landslide. In every major city of Colombia hundreds thousands of people , all in white shirts went out to demand that the FARC stops violence, that ... via Venezuela News And Views

Seven world wonders contest courts controversy
http://www.topix.net/world/spain...rts- controversy
“You cannot measure artistic quality with a popular vote” - "Voting was often based on nationalism rather than objective criteria, and there was no control to prevent the same people from voting many times, observers said." Lisbon, July 6 Two millennia after the Greeks ... via Nerve News

Some common sense from Javier Solana
http://www.topix.net/world/spain...m-javier- solana
“We're in the eye of the cyclone. You will, therefore, need to stay in contact with us.” After the attack against a Spanish patrol two Sundays ago, Spain's military began cooperating with Hizbullah in the investigation to determine who had killed its soldiers. via The Daily Star

US auto group Delphi and unions agree to shut Spanish plant
http://www.topix.net/world/spain...t-spanish- plant
“It is a bit hard to sign an accord closing a factory with 1,600 people, but it is the lesser evil because Delphi wanted to leave in paying the strict minimum of 20 days work a year” Handout image from the auto parts supplier Delphi Corp., shows bottles of brake and clutch fluid. via TurkishPress.com
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>>>>VIDEOS: We are using the cross-breeding projects we created through eugenics programs in Iraq, WTF!!!!
Rumors of Strange Creatures Abound in Basrah
Sightings Spread Horror, Conpiracy Theories Among Locals
By ZEYAD KASIM Posted 23 hr. 7 min. ago

UPDATE:

Slogger reader Eike Wulfmeyer, of the University of Cologne, sends the following helpful information:
These are not hog badgers but honey badgers (Mellivora capensis, known as "ratel" in southern Africa). Fierce critters for their size; lions usually avoid them because they're not worth the effort. They might attack humans if - for example if food is scarce due to adverse weather conditions (what's the summer like this year down in Basrah?), they'll enter settled areas and feed on livestock which naturally brings them into conflict with local residents.

They have two habits that make them particularly scary: First, as they favor honey over other food, their skin is thick and loose to ward off bee stings. So if you try to catch it, it can "turn around" in its own skin and bite you. Second, if cornered, it will try to go for the scrotum; it can't jump very high and consequently they go for the most vulnerable accessible area.

In short, this is a no-nonsense predator.
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Reports blame Salafis for attack on peacekeepers
http://www.topix.net/world/spain...on- peacekeepers
BEIRUT/MADRID: A Salafi extremist group carried out the June 24 bomb attack in South Lebanon that left dead six UN peacekeepers serving with the Spanish contingent, media reports said on Tuesday. via The Daily Star

Agustine Velloso: Should Spain Withdraw from Lebanon?
http://www.topix.net/world/spain...aw-from- lebanon
Zapatero desires an impossible miracle: that Spanish troops in Lebanon serve "the cause of peace and solidarity", as he stated in the Spanish Congress, while at the same time selling weapons to Israel, joining ... via Palestine Chronicle
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GOP Defections on Iraq: Who's Next?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...070706/us-iraq/
ANNE FLAHERTY | July 6, 2007 07:34 PM EST |
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WASHINGTON — After the recent defection of prominent Republicans on the Iraq war, the big question in Washington is who might be next.

More than a dozen Republican senators who are running for re-election next year head the list of lawmakers to watch. But others, too, have expressed concerns that the GOP has grown increasingly vulnerable on the issue. As the clock ticks toward Election Day, voter pressure is building against any lawmaker still standing with President Bush on the war.
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>>>>VIDEOS: We are using the cross-breeding projects we created through eugenics programs in Iraq, WTF!!!!
Rumors of Strange Creatures Abound in Basrah
Sightings Spread Horror, Conpiracy Theories Among Locals
By ZEYAD KASIM Posted 23 hr. 7 min. ago
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...bound_in_Basrah
For over a month now, people in Basrah have been circulating rumors about a “strange,” bear-like deadly creature that attacks people at night with its strong claws. Locals in rural areas around Basrah claim it has killed three people and injured six others, and that it usually pounces on its victims as they are sleeping outdoors during hot summer nights, when electric power outages are common. Farmers at Garmat Ali, Abu Skheer, Jisr and Shikhatta were so alarmed, they assigned guarding duties at night to prevent its attacks, the Nahrain website and Radio Sawa reported last week. Eventually, several animals were caught or killed – up to 28, locals claimed – and cell phone videos of them were published on Iraqi websites and forums. The dead creatures look like honey badgers, compact but vicious omnivores that typically consume insects and small animals. Honey badgers are more prevalent in Iran--their presence in Iraq dwindled after the destruction of the salt marsh habitat in the south. Residents of Garmat Ali, north west of Basrah, hanged one of the killed badgers on the Garma bridge that connects the southern city to the main Baghdad-Basrah highway, according to M