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It is good to know the Canadians see this bull#@$^ going on and want it stopped too. There are many many more of us than them.


the queen doesn't fuck...
she's a fridged bitch that pretends she's somehow valid...
prince philip fucks anything that moves and they killed princess di...
hold your head up you british mfckers...
i'm canadian...and my pm can go fuck himself too...
look up the security and prosperity partnership that both our governments are planning...
i don't want american soldiers on my soil telling me what to do...
i'm sure you don't want canadian soldiers on your soil telling you what to do...
harper is stepping up our military here...buying from the u.s. government...
wonder why? look into it...
before they start filtering the internet...
that is their next step...


I haven't really tried, but I would love to hear that music again someday.
Marjorie Kidman
i've heard it too...and i will again...and so will you...
when this is all over...
i believe that...with all my heart...
we are not here to be so much fodder for the elite...
we are here to make a difference...
we are here and they are here so that our spirits will rise above everything that they tell us to believe...
we will overcome everything we wanted to believe...
we are spirits...
they can torture us...but they can't destroy us...we have power...
that is why they try continually to disempower...the spirit...
keep your spirit...don't regard them and what they do...
they are blind...you are not......


Free your ass and you mind will follow
--George Clinton
THE ILLUSTRIOUS MR. KISSINGER | Homepage | 07.26.07 - 2:08 pm |
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You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.
-- I have no idea who to credit for this quote, but it is one I have always liked.


Dog that searched for 9/11, Katrina victims dies
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16885986/

Check out your local bookstore as regards other 9/11 rescue animals and their sad, untimely fate. Same as people who went to the rescue of those in need, heroes in everyway, many to become terribly sick (ill) and basically forgotten by the government for their truly outstanding efforts. We will never foget any of you. Nor will we forget that 9/11 was an inside job.


Reptilians Ahoy:

http://www.librarising.com/ astro...onincancer.html

Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized.
--Adolf Hitler

Free your ass and you mind will follow
--George Clinton


this only moves me to sorrow...
one day soon i won't even be allowed to share this...

I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
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Artychic:

I once heard some beautiful music that moved me to tears. I don't think there were words to it. It just drew me right into it.

When it was over, the announcer said it was called "The Last Words of David."

I haven't really tried, but I would love to hear that music again someday.


Rules are only for us peons. The neo-cons will be the first to go drown the drain when the diabolical Rothschild plans finally are enacted. Reason is simple. The PTB understand that if these people will do this to their peers they certainly can not be trusted by the PTB. They will be locked up first.


its kinda well really crazy they sell bongs papers high times look around all kinds of stough to grow the whole world is doing it and wants it and is behind it but when you get caught smoking a joint you get a fine someone gets money another unhappy coustomer to me thats the problem the question is how many in washington smoke dope lynyard skynyard got murdered for singing i think they just set up there and just get high talking about the gov thats what i think if you can keep up


and i would guess thats how they use people to blow themself up drugs have you ever looked into the eyes or shake the hand of a man who has been strung out heavy for months or years and then been denied the drugs witch does raise the question why does drug rehab just make fake looklike doctors $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


can you imagine how much time god put into making all the good plants to get high on they are not just for the new world order druglords they are for everyone


i rember when i first herd about the drug wars on the crooks tv about two weeks later the price of maryjane trippled and has remained


kings and evil dictraters can be saved but i think they must do something realy good for mankind


NOTHING MATTERS WHEN A MAN HAS NOTHING LEFT TO LOOSE


lohan is in california killing in iraq im in the middle you guess witch was on tv


(a quote from the article/link I provided earlier, below)
The last time a soldier was prosecuted for making contemptuous statements about a superior officer was in 1965, when an officer faced a court martial for holding a sign at a Vietnam protest that suggested the country's leader was a fascist. That soldier was sentenced to a two-year prison term.

Watada is in trouble for denouncing the Iraq war at a news conference he held June 7. He told reporters that he had researched the evidence for going to war in Iraq and concluded that the country entered the war under false pretenses.
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I believe I mistated the officer having served a prior tour in Iraq, I may have that wrong // there have been so many that have gone (repeatedly) back and forth to Iraq and have since spoken out against the war, that I may have blended this officer with those. But the point isn't lost // Here's an active duty officer who WOKE UP and realized that our government was lying to America (and to the world) about the wa; and he simply refused to participate in this lie. That stuff I said about the Courts-Martial charges just quietly going away, tucked under the rug -- TRUE


i just love it when god steps in and kicks ass read the bible he brought down the biggest dictraters and kings i try to stay on his side it is a wise idea because its going to be glory for some and the others well just say forever in hell does not sound like any fun wake up follow the money where are your tax dollars realy being spent oh i see big houses really big houses i see our kings living in them over seas remindes me of a man someone hanged they showed him alot on tv im looking around i havent seen a peep of the war on the two free local chanles we get sence we turned off the lies wana hear a poll ?i bet 89% of america would vote for ron if they hade a tv or internet its really scary they$ know it it might be close to the end times game over you loose imagine no ending to the sky and stars i knew an old man and all his money$ could not another miinute buy


America is an "ARMED CAMP" nwo, come get some,when you send in those faggot Canadian MP to police our streets or some taco bender federalies from Mexico, enforce your bullshit we will be waiting. Fuck the Queen, no you fuck the Queen.

Janet Reno for President


Have a nice day
THE LAST AMERICAN STANDING | 07.26.07 - 8:01 am
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I'm not so sure I like your signature (above) // I'm an American, and I'm still standing (also), I didn't realize we were in a line where you might consider yourself 'last' --

Well, that said --

Have to agree with your observation regarding the military and the young man whose name is closely associated with Loose Change and how that JUST MIGHT be reason the government backed off him, initially. Might very well be the case. Give you an example of yet another, proven example --

An officer who announced to the military that he had no intention of returning to Iraq (I'll find you a link shortly) was chastised by the military for being a coward and brought up on Charges and Specifications for Courts-Martial // the military judge looking at the case decided best to just drop all charges // Seems he was getting loads of unwanted attention (unwanted by certain authorities shall we say), bringing Iraq and soldier dissent to the foreground. Amazing isn't it.

Here's one reference (link) for you interested few:
http://www.coxwashington.com/ rep..._ADV09_COX.html


Hey, guys, we're up to page 53........


You people better stop sniffin glue about that reptilian bull shit and wake the fuck up,

My concerns is that as the Bush/Chanie Cartel gets more and more desperate as the American people awake, that something is about to jump off. its a Dr Stange Love program there running.

The Arrest of Rowe a Army deserter, and subsequint release. was a shallow move on there part showing their house of cards is falling down, they are getting desperate, and a cornered rat is a dangerious thing, The most patriotic thing to do as a militaryman is to dis obay an unlawful order, and flee an unlawful war, if the SS would have done this hitlers army would have fallen apart
from within, As far as I see it Rowe was fighting terrorism as a military man, when he reported for duty, when he co wrote and made, Loose Changed. The Military did't releas Rowe because yheir nice guys, they would hanh him if they could, No the orders came from on high, to drop it, they new the world would be watching the trail giving untold pubplicity an quadriple the focus on the loose changed new movie, it would have been better if he went to trial, and exposed the rats, Rowe grow a sack and take it to trial, Expose the maggots,

As we see the pigs (police)kicking in school doors, and sibk their dogs on our kids, Abu Grave style, you see they do it more in some towns, then big citys because if a riot jumps off like it did in L.A. because they accidentently shot or hurt one of are kids, the people would rip their friggen heads off and stick their MP5s up their ass and hang em high on a lamp post, all that swat training and miltary tactics go right out the window wgen a mob is draggen your ass thru the steets kicking your balls in backwards and stomping you a new face, As the saying go's you may shot some of us but you won't get all of us, you will run out of ammo, you will be over run, so you cops think about it when you play war games with our kids and familys, remember when you go into the schools to kick ass and take names from our little prople, there maybe big people waiting out side for YOU faggts. Keep it in mind shit bags.

Have a nice day


(snip) it wouldn't surprise me if Oprah was a reptilian. etc
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A DAVID ICKE fan I see -- me too.


Yeah Pluto, it wouldn't surprise me if Oprah was a reptilian. There is something strange about Oprah, and that is because she is ridiculously succesful. She must have had backing from someone. I hate all of those crap TV talk shows, Tyra Banks is like a carbon copy of Oprah so I think that these types of shows will be around for a very long time.

This is something I am deadly serious about, I was watching a similar talk show the other day on TV. I started watching it and realised that the logo for the show was the all seeing eye which is a logo of the "elite".

The show had two presenters, one was a tall bald guy, I think his name was Doctor Phil. He is a pretty weird guy, but he seems like a human. However, he had a female presenter along side him about 40 years of age. I am sure that she was a reptilian, she had such a cold weird look. I mean, I couldn't stop watching her face because it was the most brilliant thing I had ever seen. Basically she was no human, humans don't have the ice glaze look in their eyes with a slimy fake smile. What was disturbing were the fans crowding around idolising her, I was thinking they should get the hell away from that dirty reptiod.

Your observations of the audience at these types of shows are accurate Pluto. I'm not sure what was scarier, the reptilian humaniod or the zombie crowd. They lose all knowledge that they are people with strength and dignity, and end up bowing down to these false idols licking their damn boots......it disgusts me.

On a lighter note, if there is such a a thing as a 12 foot lizard humaniod I would like to fight one of them, Conan style. My weapon of choice would be a double sided axe.....the reptilian would be allowed to have a weapon as well to make it a fair fight.


this only moves me to sorrow...
one day soon i won't even be allowed to share this...

I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty
in the moonlight
overthrew you
She tied you
To a kitchen chair
She broke your throne,
she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Maybe I've been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

There was a time you'd let me know
What's real and going on below
But now you never show it to me do you?
Remember when I moved in you?
The holy dark was moving too
And every breath we drew was hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Maybe there's a God above
And all I ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
It's not a cry you can hear at night
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah


And alot of others also worship SATAN! FACT! ALOT of politicians worship Satan worldwide! they are all part of pure evil New World Order!


Anthony65 | 07.20.07 - 10:25 am
Right On, Anthony! RIGHT ON! YOU CAN SMELL THE SULFUR AROUND BUSH!Just like Chavez said! BUSH WORSHIPS SATAN FACT! AS DOES CHENEY AND BOTH CLINTON'S TOO! Read this:

EXPOSING GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER
Christians Demand Bush be Impeached for Worshiping Satan
04-30-2007
www.roguegovernment.com
(MANCHESTER, NH) -- A Christian based group known as the Christian's Liberation Movement has concluded that George W. Bush is a fake Christian and worships Satan. The group is demanding his impeachment not only for his crimes against humanity but for lying to the American people about his worship of Satan. It is highly doubtful that George W. Bush would have been elected President two times had the American people known about his secretive worship of Satan. Although this claim might seem difficult to believe, when one looks at the secret societies that George W. Bush has been involved with it becomes clear that George W. Bush is anything but a good Christian man.
"There is no question that George W. Bush worships Satan," proclaims Lee Rogers spokesman for the group.
"George W. Bush and any other member of the administration that secretly worships Satan should be removed from office immediately. It is one thing if Bush openly announced that he worshiped Satan and was elected, but the fact that Bush poses as a Christian and secretly worships Satan is deeply offensive to the moral values of Christians," Rogers continues.
Evidence of George W. Bush's worship of Satan is clear when one considers the secret societies that he is affiliated with. These include Skull and Bones as well as the Bohemian Club. Both organizations are confirmed to be heavily involved with Satan worship.
George W. Bush's Affiliation with Skull and Bones
George W. Bush, his father George H.W. Bush and his grandfather Prescott Bush all became members of Skull and Bones a secret fraternal society located at Yale University. Founded in 1832, the official legal name of the society is the Russell Trust Association named after one of the founding members of the society. Skull and Bones at one point was actually known as The Brotherhood of Death if that gives any sort of indication as to what this group is all about. Each year, 15 new members are recruited into Skull and Bones and meet in a building known as “The Tomb”. The group's symbol is a skull and crossbones with the number “322” located underneath the crossbones.
Here is the American Heritage Dictionary's definition of the word crossbones.
crossbones - A representation of two bones placed crosswise, usually under a skull, symbolizing danger or death.
Obviously from the description alone, Skull and Bones is no Christian group. It becomes even more disturbing when one learns of the rituals members of Skull and Bones must participate in so they can be reborn into this satanic order of death. Newly tapped members of Skull and Bones participate in a ritual where they are reborn into the order by laying naked in a coffin. Members must also recount their entire sexual history, pretend to slit a nude woman's throat and participate in other bizarre satanic rituals.
As if this wasn't bad enough, George W. Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush along with other Skull and Bones members actually robbed the grave of Apache warrior Geronimo and stole Geronimo's skull in 1918. A group of Native Americans have actually petitioned Congress to investigate the Skull and Bones group as part of an effort to return the remains of Geronimo for reburial. Geronimo's grandson, Harlan Geronimo, has even asked George W. Bush to return his grandfather's skull and has volunteered to undergo DNA testing to prove ownership.
It is ridiculous to believe that a good Christian man as Bush claims he is would have anything to do with a group that participates in these things. At the very least Bush should help facilitate the return of Geronimo's skull and apologize to Harlan Geronimo for the actions of his grandfather.
George W. Bush's Affiliation with the Bohemian Grove
George W. Bush and his father are also both members of a group called the Bohemian Club. The all male Bohemian Club's membership which consists of America's wealthy and political elite, meet every summer in a place known as the Bohemian Grove. The Bohemian Grove is located in the town of Monte Rio in the middle of the redwood forests of northern California. Each year, they conduct a satanic ritual called the “Cremation of Care” where they burn an effigy of a child to Molech a large demon owl. The ceremony could best be described as a mock human sacrifice and is hardly anything a Christian man would take part in.
This is especially true considering that Molech is actually referenced in the Old Testament. In the book of Leviticus, God denounces the sacrifice of children to Molech as shown here.
Leviticus 18:21
And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.
Leviticus 20:2
Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech: he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.
Security at the Bohemian Grove is taken seriously as members of the press are not allowed to film inside the encampment. Members value their privacy and apparently do not want people to know that they participate in a satanic ritual and engage in other bizarre behavior. That all changed in the year 2000 when radio host and documentary film maker Alex Jones along with camera man Mike Hanson snuck into the Bohemian Grove and filmed the entire “Cremation of Care” ritual via a hidden video camera. Jones released the video footage of the ritual in his documentary film Dark Secrets: Inside the Bohemian Grove. It is clear from the video footage contained in the film that the “Cremation of Care” ceremony is in fact a satanic ritual.
There have also been reports of rampant homosexual prostitution in the Bohemian Grove. The NY Post reported that a gay porn star by the screen name Chad Savage was brought into the Bohemian Grove to service the moguls there. Members of the Bohemian Club are also said to run around naked, dress in drag, engage in drug use as well as urinate openly within the encampment. There are even allegations of snuff films being filmed within the Bohemian Grove during the 1980's. Details of these allegations can be found in former state senator John Decamp's book The Franklin Cover-up.
Richard Nixon was even recorded on audio tape referring to the Bohemian Grove as “the most faggy godd**ned thing you could ever imagine.”
Why would a Christian man be associated with an organization that has members who secretly engage in homosexual acts, satanic rituals and other bizarre behavior?
George W. Bush's Actions Are Immoral and Not Christian
If George W. Bush were really a good Christian man why would he wage an endless war on terror based on lies and propaganda? It has already become clear that the war in Iraq was based off of lies and has thus far resulted in the deaths of nearly one million people. It is also becoming increasingly clear that the attacks of September 11th, 2001 were a government inside job, meaning that the entire war on terror that Bush promotes is also based off of lies and falsehoods.
The United States is spending close to one billion dollars building an embassy in Iraq that is going to be as big if not bigger than Vatican City. How can Bush justify spending this money on an embassy when Baghdad is still in shambles and the Veteran's Administration in the United States is in complete disarray? It is clear that Bush doesn't care about U.S. military personnel, or the Iraqi people. Instead, Bush is more concerned with building a new modern day version of Babylon as part of an effort to further the influence of his satanic New World Order masters. Bush and his New World Order masters believe that they themselves are living gods on earth and exempt from divine judgment.
The evidence is overwhelming. George W. Bush's association with these secret societies coupled with his actions that have caused an untold amount of death and destruction is clear proof that he worships Satan. We are demanding that Bush and any other member of his administration that poses as a fake Christian and worships Satan in secret be removed from office immediately.
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The Christian's Liberation Movement is a Christian based news organization and liberation movement dedicated to exposing government corruption and the New World Order.

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IMPORTANT LINKS
CNN: Geronimo's Heir Wants Bush to Return 'Skull and Bones'
Found Letter Indicates Yale Club has Geronimo's Skull
NY Post: Gay Porn Star Services Bohemian Grove Members
Wikipedia: Bohemian Grove Entry
Wikipedia: Skull and Bones Entry
New Embassy in Iraq a Mystery

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VIDEO CLIPS
Dark Secrets: Inside the Bohemian Grove
Nixon Discussing the Bohemian Grove
Alex Jones Questions David Gergen About The Bohemian Grove
1981 ABC News Report on the Bohemian Grove
Sean Hannity Afraid to Talk about the Bohemian Grove
George W. Bush and John Kerry Questioned about Skull and Bones
ABC News Report on Skull and Bones Ritual
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CONTACT
Lee Rogers
E-Mail:lee@roguegovernment.com
Web Site:www.roguegovernment.com


wade, While your right about next terrorist attack being an inside job like 9-11 was too, GET A CLUE! RON PAUL CANNOT, NOT SAVE AMERICA BY HIMSELF! PLUS, BUSH IS GOING TO DECLARE MARSHALL LAW SOON AND WIPE OUT ANY AND ALL ELECTIONS! FACT! WAKE UP AND NOW AND STOCK UP ASAP ON FOOD AND WATER AND GUNS AND LOTS OF AMMO TOO! AND NOW!GODDAMN RON PAUL CAN NOT,NOT SOLVE AMERICA'S PROBLEMS ALONE! Plus we are NOT going to have any more elections anyway! thanks to Bush! and Cohorts in Congress and Cheney! Moderator, I KNOW I already said this but YOU didn't fucking post it the FIRST TIME!


2Th 2:11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,
2Th 2:12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

the american government has dealt with some countries through stealth and deceit and slaughter...like darfur...
they have demonized other countries and taken their resources...like iraq...iran is next...
they bought my country...through the banks and by buying the politicians...
we were your friends...but no more...
the politicians may not have a conscience...but the people do...
for all that they have done you yourselves have gained nothing...
only the blame for being indifferent and selfish...
i really believe that the end is approaching...
only because there is nowhere to go from here...
there is a judgement coming upon america...
you can't deficate all over the planet and not expect something in return...
it really starts to stink after a while..
i wash my hands of america...
i would invite you here but you've fucked up canada too.......
ok.....i'm here.....
yeah...i'll take you in...
we're canadian...we do that...


in the end it's about conscience...but the majority don't even know what that is anymore...
politics have taken these things and made them powerplay issues...
we fight for this and that...rights we say...
what a great lie...
i'm certain that the abortion issue was implanted in women to liberalize them...
to make it a political issue..
prior to that what thinking individual would ever think that killing a fetus was an option...
but the government orchestrated it so that you would be poor if you didn't make that choice...
but giving you that choice gave you power...
think about it...


There is a time to fight and a time not to fight.If you are a x F18 piolet maybe you could commiecasie the whitehouse and be a hero.You are not going to take them on in a unruley,unorganized mob,I have some knowledge as I was in riot control in my stint in army in 1964-6.Way back then riots were not to hard to end,I been there done that.Have you that knowledge,if not stop ragging the truthers and patroits on this site.I hear a hear battleship mouth backed by a rowboat ass from you son. terry in fla
Endtimetruther | Homepage | 07.25.07 - 10:21 pm | #
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Finaly i got some responce, I just hoppe you people will wake up soon before its to late and the foregin troops move in cause they will shoot your ass. And what i sugested was a peaceful revolution like the one in Russia and germany hundreds of thousants of people show up and dont go home, one thing is to have the hardware tanks drones microwawe guns another thing is to use it on your own pople the foregin troops will. understand my fustration im over here i cant fight the fight for you, and yes i am a wimp only thing i ever killed was a bird with a bb gun. Im just trying to raise my children in peace, my fustration with the American people is great as i have looked up to ya all my life, now i wuldnt go there if it was free, wich is practicualy is with the plunging $ .I can`t get it to my head how the larger public can be so blind, and then there is the israel worship im not even going to in to that, they efin killed jesus. i gues what i am trying to say is im sorry, im sorry to se my heroes turned into mush potatoes and mindles zombies im trully sorry if i offended any trutheres or wets that was not my intention it wass more a cry for atention i read the articles every day i hit the monitor i clench my fist until the knucels turn white, i se cnn the copper 360 thing i se and old black man being savagely atacked by 5 ,6 cops until he is strawbery jam the cop goes free i get ill, i actualy got sick waching it and had to throw up, and they talking about it like its no big thing i dono what else to do i had to express my fustration right now


What is a christian to expect in 2007 and beyond as the multi-tudes turn away, as scripture indicates
haven't you heard? you are a criminal...
yes you are...
because you are a christian..
isn't it ironic that the right wing christians that got this sob into power for the sake of having their own power with respect to telling people how to think regarding abortion or gay rights are now subject to his power also..
you are a criminal according to g.w. bush ...if you are a christian...funny how things turn out...


See, I don't need no introduction, I just remember a safer time for all in america before they allowed the invasion to occur!


Yes,
A.T.H.F. Is correct! Satan is coming against you with tricks you could never imagine!
He that has ears to hear, hear!


i'm listening to hallelujah (from shrek) right now...sad...and singing it...
and feeling lost because the u.s. military is allowed to enter my country to tell me that i can't protest...in my own country...canada...
that's how i see america...insidious...like cockroaches...
you say you have nothing to do with it but you love the spoils...
you will soon have our trees and water and land...
i wonder what they sing in darfur....where the u.s. is taking all of their natural resources and killing them liberally...
but boy...look at those mineral deposits...
same thing...different tactics...
anyone of you that knows what is going on and does nothing are criminals...
iraq is the same...criminal...
don't blame your government if you do nothing...
artychic | 07.25.07 - 10:57 pm | #

2Th 2:1 Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him,
2Th 2:2 that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.
2Th 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for {it will not come} unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,
2Th 2:4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.
2Th 2:5 Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?
2Th 2:6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains {will do so} until he is taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming;
2Th 2:9 {that is,} the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders,
2Th 2:10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.
2Th 2:11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,
2Th 2:12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.
2Th 2:13 But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.
2Th 2:14 It was for this He called you through our gospel, that you may gain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Th 2:15 So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word {of mouth} or by letter from us.
2Th 2:16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace,
2Th 2:17 comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work and word.

See what I mean people??


Steve:Jesus said if you want to go to the Kingdom of heaven,give all you have to the poor and repent.Im poor,my address is 666 Santanic Hwy,New York City 66611,my name is Mr JW Bloomberg.You bible dumbfuck,hurry up turn on tv,Pat (33degree)Robinson is on and in deep fucking prayer.You give bible beleivers a bad name. terry in fla
Endtimetruther | Homepage | 07.25.07 - 10:29 pm | #
Come on, ETT., simmer down, buuuuddddyyyyy!
Not every body is a false teacher or prophet, If they receive your wisdom, you have won a convert, if not, why "cut 'em down," Peace, bro, Peace


i'm listening to hallelujah (from shrek) right now...sad...and singing it...
and feeling lost because the u.s. military is allowed to enter my country to tell me that i can't protest...in my own country...canada...
that's how i see america...insidious...like cockroaches...
you say you have nothing to do with it but you love the spoils...
you will soon have our trees and water and land...
i wonder what they sing in darfur....where the u.s. is taking all of their natural resources and killing them liberally...
but boy...look at those mineral deposits...
same thing...different tactics...
anyone of you that knows what is going on and does nothing are criminals...
iraq is the same...criminal...
don't blame your government if you do nothing...


When I grew up, my favorite TV show was "Get Smart" and I always thought "Chaos" was the enemy. Over the years I finally realize the USA secret government under the leaership of our retarded, idiot, thief, murderous, president was and is "Chaos" a.k.a Al Qaida etc... etc... etc...


Boehemian Grove in full swing last 2 wks of july,why is there a blackout ??Is Bush 41 and Kissenger sleep together in same pup tent under the cremation of care OWL.Is bush jr and Newt under the covers in a cabin in the woods,again why the BLACKOUT ON THIS SITE AND OTHERS ??I smell something fishy here. terry in fla


Totally,
What anonymous is saying is true.
I recall a time when men would stand up for women in dangerous situations,kids could play anywhere w/o fear of "disappearing", my mom would stop at the grocery store, leave 4 little boys in the car for a half hour, and "suprise" we were there when she came back!!!!
Now we would be boys home and she'd be in prison!
Very rotten nation in her core now,
I am not certian at all that natioanal repentance is possible!
1) Men you go to church and work with turn into "potty mouths" when the women arent around, (or they are actually at the church)l
2)NO telling how the girls at church talk and think if the men are as "crooked" as they are
3) I'm just rambling by putting a third point in here, just thought it would make the thread look more important!

SO................................................ .......

What is a christian to expect in 2007 and beyond as the multi-tudes turn away, as scripture indicates
I think that we can expect to hear audably the voice of His Spirit as to how to survive one day at a time, until He finally crushes Satan under His feet, Destroys the advasary with the sword of His mouth, and the brightness of His coming!!!!!!!!!!!


YES REJOICE PPL,M THIS COULD GO CATAGORY 5 IN NO TIME AT ALL!

HERE IS WHAT I SAY~~~

H-A-LL-A-LL-U-YAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MARANATHA


I have seen this coming for some time...
and i'm a canadian...
i new that it would ooze across the borders and affect our lives here too...
i've been warning americans for some time on this forum or that...
often getting booted because of my sense of urgency...
my insistence on their waking up to whats going on..
well....it's here now...
on my side of the border...
most here are not aware either...
or they choose to ignore it...
but that is the governments way...
to manipulate you or lull you...depending on the atmosphere...
and now it may be too late to wake up...
perhaps it's just our turn...
too many in the rest of the world have had to endure worse because of our needs and our indifference...
this world is not what we thought it was...
we won't have a choice but to wake up soon...
NEO: why do my eyes hurt?
MORPHEUS: because you've never used them before...
hallelujah....


WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY HERE IS: HOW AND WHEN HAS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TURNED INTO SUCH BOOTLICKING LAZY FAT WIMPS??
Lars | 07.25.07 - 7:10 pm | #

Dear Lars,
I'm fifty and have been here all my life,back as a toddler, I started noticing americans getting "lazy" back then, its like it started when we were FORCED to bow down and serve the United Nations by sacrificing our boys in the koreas!
The protocols say that as far as possible, wars will not be for conqouring and occupation, but for all govts. to worship at the half round building "Rocky" built in New Babylon way back in his heyday!
(the un)

anyway from a lifelong american as well as,
usaf veteran
A.T.H.F.


Steve:Jesus said if you want to go to the Kingdom of heaven,give all you have to the poor and repent.Im poor,my address is 666 Santanic Hwy,New York City 66611,my name is Mr JW Bloomberg.You bible dumbfuck,hurry up turn on tv,Pat (33degree)Robinson is on and in deep fucking prayer.You give bible beleivers a bad name. terry in fla


Lars:How old are you??You can not even carry a gun in DC,matter of fact if you had guns in your car and traveled thru other states,unless you have a right to carry permit.Look at it like this,if say 1000 hero s like you went to the whitehouse,they have snipers and high tech toys,that tell you have metal on you from at least 500 yards,(go see the new Die Hard movie)the illuminati are showing you what they got.They want you to attack,they have microwave shit that can fry a whole city block of people,or make you blind forever and worse.Do the fucking reseach hero and dont call us cowards on a key board,there are vietnam vets and gulf war vets and others here.I am one of them.The worst thing you can do is attack them out in the open,I assume you have no military experience.Do like I and millions of underground patroits will do,wait till they attack us again maybe this august per chennydickhead,jewjackoff.When they declare marshall law,then you better have guns and lots of ammo,and food and water stored.They will come for you and your guns and then you can be a hero or fucking die or go to the fema camps for beheading.There is a time to fight and a time not to fight.If you are a x F18 piolet maybe you could commiecasie the whitehouse and be a hero.You are not going to take them on in a unruley,unorganized mob,I have some knowledge as I was in riot control in my stint in army in 1964-6.Way back then riots were not to hard to end,I been there done that.Have you that knowledge,if not stop ragging the truthers and patroits on this site.I hear a hear battleship mouth backed by a rowboat ass from you son. terry in fla


hey i got an idea why dont you all stop whining about it here day after day and do sumthing, we all know what is happening whining about it wont do anything so go do sumthing, march on the white house and stay there until the traitors run away enugh of you come it will work it was done in russia, rumenia and other coutrys i cant think of right now its called a peacefull revolution but you wuld have to be without your x-box for serval days though hmm maybe it wont work in the us you people are doomed oh well it might be up to EU to "save" you with a Nato force, WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY HERE IS: HOW AND WHEN HAS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TURNED INTO SUCH BOOTLICKING LAZY FAT WIMPS??
Lars | 07.25.07 - 7:10 pm | #
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Good post, however there is much you may not know about what us fat lazy Americans are doing behind the CURTAIN of time. Stay tuned my Eastern EU Friend and that is said in friendship. Incite us!


You people do good work.


I'm so thankful he's been released...
I actually cried tonight for him and because I can see them trying to make an example of truthers...
To me he's a hero...
He fought in afghanistan...even though that was a farce...
He's fighting here too...
I'm worried they won't allow the rest of the soldiers to come back..they will continue to extend their tours...for just that reason...
they will be activists against the war and the government when they do come back...
I hope to God that i'm wrong...


So basically the War in Iraq is a clusterfuck.....


check out lc's blog; Korey's been released, he is still traveling down to clear up the confusion. but he has been released!


I agree about "doing something" and not whining. So I am.


SOMEBODY . . . tell us all what to do to help Korey???????

Phone numbers, email addresses, fax numbers we can fax. A sympathetic congressman we can call.

A petition we can sign and circulate ?????


hey i got an idea why dont you all stop whining about it here day after day and do sumthing, we all know what is happening whining about it wont do anything so go do sumthing, march on the white house and stay there until the traitors run away enugh of you come it will work it was done in russia, rumenia and other coutrys i cant think of right now its called a peacefull revolution but you wuld have to be without your x-box for serval days though hmm maybe it wont work in the us you people are doomed oh well it might be up to EU to "save" you with a Nato force, WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY HERE IS: HOW AND WHEN HAS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TURNED INTO SUCH BOOTLICKING LAZY FAT WIMPS??


The evidences are overwelming, the BUsh admin and brown nosers are evil people.
Prescott Bush preceeded these evil ones long ago but the tendency is still here.

Empeachmenat is a must.Lets kick the criminals out and the criminal bankers that are behind all this madness.

You will see what happens when humanity unites for peace in a better loving world.

EVil one's prepare for you are loosing the battle and only the right gods way will win in the end.
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Stan,
there are 4 people playing cards in addition to yourself. You lose every hand and they refuse to allow you to resign the game. Little did you know that the other 4 players were all brothers and the game was rigged! Get it? Impeachment is NOT going to happen. They play by an ever changing set of rules.........do you see what I am saying? We must either ARREST them for High Treason and NUMEROUS felonies IMHO. Our Congress is playing on their side in the card game!


The evidences are overwelming, the BUsh admin and brown nosers are evil people.
Prescott Bush preceeded these evil ones long ago but the tendency is still here.

Empeachmenat is a must.Lets kick the criminals out and the criminal bankers that are behind all this madness.

You will see what happens when humanity unites for peace in a better loving world.

EVil one's prepare for you are loosing the battle and only the right gods way will win in the end.


That was too important to screw up (should read: DD Form 214) // sorry for the typo.


whoever has the elite behind them will win the presidency...that's the way it has been for decades! Watch the movie on youtube Zeitgeist - the federal reserve parts 1-5,
They want us to divide, so they can conquer...we need to unite...everyone on the planet!


DD Formk 214 -- the official documentation given all military at time of their discharge/separation.

With this important document (DD Form 214) would have been permanent orders issued to spell out what is to be done with the matter of discharge/separation, i.e., where to go and when to report, etc.

A very simple process, indeed. I don't know how anybody could get something like that wrong. They can't. I'm not defending anyone and I'm not accusing anyone but something isn't quite right in all of this. Mistakes do happen but separation from the military service can be easily proven because it is so routinely and expertly documented. Always.


Was Korey Rowe actually dishonorably discharged after his arrest months ago? Or was he just 'released'?


So it begins....


Then you might go on and discuss our President staying seated in an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida the morning of 9/11. A pre-announced location, done well in advance and yet his secret service agents did NOTHING to remove their boss to an otherwise undisclosed and better, safer-haven in the event of more attacks on the USA. After all the President of the United States during a time of great crisis is a likely target // wouldn't you say so // of course you would, and you're not assigned to the secret service, most likely. Brings into question that they knew they were in no danger -- that's obvious.
jbrid1138 | 07.23.07 - 3:05 pm
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jbird
Thanks for jumping in with some good talking points. I never considered what you pointed out as obvious. thanks again.


Helo Grasshooper, your name reminds me of of a movie about KUng foo.
chris jones | 07.23.07 - 2:52 pm
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Thanks for the feedback. it is encouraging to know that so many talkers are doers as well. Also, i did take that name from the movie. Die you know that Bruce Lee was rejected for the part in the TV series in favor of David Carradine? What a brain fart that idea was.


Can't believe it. Two weeks just bought Michelin Tires, and if they are really chipped, I will bring them back, and drive on the wheels.


Gun grabbin NWO Mayor Dailey,cess pool scum sucker, if you look up corruption, you see his picture. The NWO F.E.M.A boys are hard at work recruiting the dirt bag preachers to play with the mind of the ghetto rats, to give up their protection, so only the gang bangers have guns. good plan. the Nazis are good, they want you to be dependent on them for every thing.


Conyers won't impeach now: Cindy Sheehan Arrested
http://impeachforpeace.org/impea...sh_blog/? p=2782


You can be sure the evil bastards you are talking about are doing more than just talking about it.

Please forgive me if i have needlessly offended any of you
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Anyone that might be offended shouldn't be.
It's like the guys that never go to union meetings, or have anything useful to say if they ever did, are always the ones that bitch the most about how things are.

If you can't get involved to stem the tide of evil, you deserve a FEMA camp, YOU AND YOUR KIDS

Now get off your ass and do something


Congressmen and woman , elected employees of the American people, HAH. Once they get in office we re the pissants. Where have you done folks, hiding from Bush and his gang, or part of his dictorship. D an Rathers said, the news media needs a spine transplant , so do you, those of you who sit back getting your paycheck and bennys and don't consider for one minute our troops being killed looking for WMD's that do not exist, 800,000 civilians killed, and now our freedoms threatened. Your realy something, pathetic does not get there. Pelosi, shame on you and your cronys, once you got ther impeachment is off the table, impeachment is the only moral way to redeeem this country and show the world we are not the asshole with all the weapons tha will kill them. You screwed up. Bush and cheney broke the law of the land and you hold his hand. God have mercy on your soul. Go visit the graves of the dead, and the morgues, take away our freedoms and let these parrasites bleed us dry and remove any freedom we night have had.
hang your heads down, you have betrayed this land by your inaction or perhaps complicity.


Please forgive me if i have needlessly offended any of you
grasshopper | 07.23.07 - 1:17 pm |
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I for one am NOT offended // the subject is too personal and too important to allow words to offend me and send me off to a corner for an hour or two.

I say do what you can in bringing these matters up in conversation (often); watch for your chance and then drop a couple of -- "You probably won't believe this, but -- "

Then off-load a few things regarding your education as pertains to 9/11. You don't have to be an expert by any shape or form -- just be yourself, and make sure you relay the truth as you have come to know it.

9/11 was an inside job --

WTC7 is (was) a perfect example of a controlled demolition. The BBC reported the building had collapsed but did so BEFORE the actual happening -- remind everyone of that and also that no steel-framed high-rise building had ever before in history (or since) collapsed due to a fire alone. And WTC7 had no airplane; and the fires were few and controllable. But no, the owner said 'pull it' meaning bring the WTC7 down (as in a pre-set series of explosions) as is done legally world-over in the number of thousands each and every year. The only problem with that being there was no time to set these explosive devices other than admit that the same had been done months, weeks, days before 9/11. Complicity -- Plain and simple.

Talk about the Stand Down, you know, nearly TWO HOURS before any military jet fighter support was sent to the rescue. About the Pentagon's round hole and no ground to air defense mechanism kicking in. Impossible to accept. The stuff about the unreleased videos. That stuff about no positive body (Arabs) identification and no actual airplanes (by serial number) ever discovered. Talk about the removal of the WTC steel and how the ones doing the removing refused to stop, refused to listen to the family members calling for them to stop until such time as further investigation might be properly conducted. It didn't happen, the stuff was shipped overseas and is now soup cans and trinkets, etc.

Then you might go on and discuss our President staying seated in an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida the morning of 9/11. A pre-announced location, done well in advance and yet his secret service agents did NOTHING to remove their boss to an otherwise undisclosed and better, safer-haven in the event of more attacks on the USA. After all the President of the United States during a time of great crisis is a likely target // wouldn't you say so // of course you would, and you're not assigned to the secret service, most likely. Brings into question that they knew they were in no danger -- that's obvious.


Helo Grasshooper, your name reminds me of of a movie about KUng foo.
Please know the great majority of the people invoved in this site, spread the word, distrubute DVD's with authentic details of todys abomination. Write to their congress and senate, investigate their facts and generally back them up and if not possible question others who may have this information. Rally in the streets, carry signs,many are advocates of R.Paul and support him with donations, pamphlets and word of mouth.
Then there are guys like me who do what i can do, but at times share the fact I am revolted by these pathetic physcos who call themselfs our leaders, by the lack of interest in our troops and the innocnents being murdered by our bombs. And the controlling of what was once a free nation of integrity.


WHAT THE WHO THE.
FUCK DOS BUSH THINK HES DOING, BANNING FREE SPEECG STEELING THE PRIVATE PROPERTY
OF PEOPLE WHO DONT GO WITH HIS WAR.


I have been reading the seemingly endless pages of information for a while now. Some of the entries have provided interesting and even some useful stuff. I am not one who enjoys sitting and watching very much so you need to take what i say from that perspective.

I believe that some of you who spend time posting have hearts of passion for the cause of truth and would like to do more than just talk about it. But most of what i have read over and over again tells me that most of you just want to talk about it. in some ways it reminds me of some churches i have attended over the years. for the most part most of them want to stay in the box and just talk about it or preach about it to others who just want to think about it.

Why dont you get out from in front of your computers and go DO what you are able to stem the tide of evil that is going on around you. If you really want to DO something, why not join a Ron Paul meetup and get busy changing the system that allows the kind of evil you love to talk about. Or hit the streets with and hand out DVDs on 911. Or find a local church that is doing something rather than just talking about it. then the next time you come on the board you can tell us what you have done rather than what you know. If the shoe fits etc. You can be sure the evil bastards you are talking about are doing more than just talking about it.

Please forgive me if i have needlessly offended any of you


I am having some "criminal" thoughts right about now.

LOL.


why do you THINK they want hillary in the white house? business as usual maybe?


bet on it, daddy's little war criminal is looking out for the family business interests.


king george and his predecessors were making a fortune with the east india shipping company exporting slaves from Africa and opium from india to china. when chinese leaders tried to stop the opium, the UK rolled out the gunships and bombed the hell out of them.

we know prescott bush was busted funding hitler, but george senior through korea and vietnam was running Air America, a private airline shipping company, trading weapons for opium. later as vice president under reagan we had oliver north / noriega , doing the same with cocaine. nancy reagan gets on the podium with the "just say no!" campaign to reverse psychology sell drugs for people who had a LOT to get rid of. bill clinton was governor of arkansas, taking shipments into MENA airport. hillary's rose lawfirm set up tyson chicken for money laundering.


Britain is protecting the biggest heroin crop of all time
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...20707heroin.htm

dont think for a second that this is just Britain there. the taliban were set up by the US and UK to grow opium. when a pipeline was proposed through their turk, they agreed to a cut of the take, when they were going to be short-changed they got mad and burned all the opium crops, this is when the media demonized them. this is why they are at war on opium now there.

the queen of england and the bush's are related. big oil, opium and cocaine, are family businesses to them.


Watch this related (impeachment related) video clip from 12 July this year:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ku...ep_to_0712.html


Instead of walking around with banners held high -- saying -- "9/11 Was An Inside Job'

Instead, say something similar to -- 'Congress Needs To Do Its Job -- Impeach Now'

Everyone watch this video and sign this petition:
http://impeachcheney.org/


Welcome to Hell folks.
Oldman | 07.23.07 - 8:55 am
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No thanks. Not even later, if you don't mind. I want our CONGRESS to do what it is paid (and too much at that) to do -- Impeach for High Crimes.

Is it against the law of the land to impeach someone who meets all the necessary check points in making such a decision? I would think NOT doing impeachment is a crime itself.

Isn't this right? Who out there knows the insides of this law of the land? Doesn't impeachment have to be for just cause? I would think murder, and robbery to be pretty severe crimes -- if only by association -- (and destroying our very Constitution from the inside/out to be a severe enough concern for consideration).

I would still think these matters would have to be proven BUT so what hasn't there been some pretty convincing evidence already bounced around back and forth in places such as this forum and elsewhere? Believe so. Believe one heck of a lot of us believe so.

You'd think that an honorable man holding the two highest offices in our land might have some awareness of what we are thinking. I believe they do but feel protected.

Congress needs to do its job!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...30707outlaw.htm

"el Busho" proclaims protesting the war is illegal..

FU BUSH, and F youre illegal war, haul BUSH, CHENEY and OTHERS off in CHAINS and bring the troops home NOW !!


Fascism: Governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry and commerce, and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

Welcome to Hell folks.


Yeah, I mean what would be the big rush?

Get him out of office fast, yes; but punishment should be equal the crime. But now how in the hell could something like that (??) ever be truly realized?

First start with impeachment. Fair and honest. Follow our Constitution, the part they haven't managed to change to meet their own evil ways.

Actually, I'm not sure I know what part that might be -- seems our representatives (an important word in its meaning) whose job it is to protect and serve that Constitution aren't doing their job.


I like the idea of good ol' rope and tree therapy, but I think in this instance that some small horses would be more appropriate, (to drag out the outcome, pun intended)
Especially in cheney's case, he's so fat you'd have to use a short rope (to reduce the snap force) to keep his head from popping off....
Henry Bowman | 07.23.07 - 8:05 am | #
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Just hang him, slowly.


(snip) Who does this Bastard think he is?
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Dictator of the NOT SO FREE world. But he truly isn't that; and he truly should be impeached and his cronies right along with him prosecuted for their own individual related crimes. No exceptions/guilty media-types included.


RE: The outlaw president outlaws all war protest.
Bill of Rights.
Bill of Rights
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Who does this Bastard think he is?
Fuck Bush!!!
Bush is a Criminal and should be hung for treason.


I mean, just allow yourself to sit quietly for a few moments. Allow your mind to absorb these FACTS --

RUMSFELD announcing to Congress that DoD couldn't account for over 2.3 TRILLION $$. Said (written) once again -- trillion -- and as far as I know, no one held accountable for the missing cash. How much is a trillion, anyone know for sure?

SILVERSTEIN getting all that WTC insurance $$.

And all that unaccounted wealth ($$) the gold, the silver, the precious gems formerly held for safe-keeping in the vaults under the WTC. Sure there was some gold found and returned to one of the bank located at the WTC -- but I read somewhere where there was 'a hell of a lot more' yet unaccounted for. Again, I must question: Who is to be held liable/responsible for the missing $$. Bin Laden?

And speaking of missing -- How about the yet missing victims of 9/11? Tiny bone fragments found as of recent months and yet no one is truly being held liable/responsible for this horrific crime. An obvious controlled demolition of the site, sound arguments regarding the same. But yet nothing concrete (our justice system) is done to bring the guilty to justice. Is that the way real life works? Hundreds still missing in both $$ and in human remains BUT -- no one is to be held accountable!

The entire matter of 9/11 is to be packaged and dismissed as 19-Arabs who bravely gave their own life so others might receive the benefit of continuing mayhem and greed. Is that what we are to be left to believe? Is nothing more to be done?

We have a farce of a Commission investigating the incident -- which itself is immediately called into question BUT -- again nothing is done to fix the wrong.

What the hell is going on?

Impeach and prosecute the guilty. WAKE UP people the crooks have us surrounded.


What do I have to do, get on by knees and beg?
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No, but while you're there, some prayer would be in order.......


Sorry, I geuss my point being that Blackwater people would be the guys holding the IED trigger button, so they rarely would get hit by the rare real IED (from actual Iragi/muslim bombers), or sniper fire, since it is mostly their people shooting US troops........


Since you bring it up CJ -- That Blackwater mention --

Are you aware there are more contractors in Iraq than there are military? It's true, read that somewhere. Got me to checking on the death rate among the group since all we hear about is the military (approaching 4000) // What I discovered didn't seem realistic -- the number count being reported was really super low, in the 10 or 20 range as I remember. Seems to me reasoning out that if there are more contractors (Blackwater included, and their main combat support role included) there rightfully ought to be more deaths we weren't hearing about. Those would still be Americans in many cases, I would think so. Maybe immigrant volunteers doing the work --

Not sure where I'm going with that --

Just something that popped into my 'insane' head.
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Again I've held my tongue, I believe Blackwater is doing most of the IED"S, a part of their agenda is to cripple or military manpower to insure we can't (are they in for a surprise) defend our land when they want to send UN troops here for a "police action".......and more mexican and other foreign troops (to make up the shortfall in recruiting) will have no mental block when ordered to fire on Americans that refuse to give up firearms/get on FEMA trains.............


(high treason was punishable by being hanged, drawn and quartered )
chris jones | 07.23.07 - 7:38 am | #

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I like the idea of good ol' rope and tree therapy, but I think in this instance that some small horses would be more appropriate, (to drag out the outcome, pun intended)
Especially in cheney's case, he's so fat you'd have to use a short rope (to reduce the snap force) to keep his head from popping off....


Your right CJ -- and you too HENRY BOWMAN.

Yes, I remember he asked for twice the amount calling the two towers two separate incidents of terror -- that itself should have been cause for suspicion and jail time and so forth -- but no. And was granted maybe not the entire twice in total payment but came pretty damn close to receiving twice. Like I'm supposed to have some compassion and understanding for his plight in not getting everything coming to him. Well, he certainly didn't, at least hasn't yet to-date, and I sure in the hell don't mean $$.


WHY would they hold out but end up paying for something that so very many of us have come to question? I mean we're talking BILLIONS here -- not a dollar and a quarter late video rental fees.
jbrid1138 | 07.23.07 - 7:52 am | #

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Simple, payoffs and kickbacks and bribes.
It wouldn't surprise me if he paid out fully half (you recall he received double, that probably went as payoff the theinsurance execs) or more to get his piece without question......
I'm sure several were involved in the money split.


Just something that popped into my 'insane' head.
jbrid1138 | 07.23.07 - 7:29 am | #

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HiJ.

I do not have faith in the US body count they throw at us either, nor do they include Blackwater Mercs, in the media.
Fact is I beleive the news media sits back and prints what they tell them to.
Investigative reporting died long ago, as D.Rathers sadid the news media of today needs a spine transplant. Though I feel they might be a tad intimidated if they told the truth.
As far as i know our Ol Gov. has prohibited the news media from showing funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq.


Here's something bothering me, folks. I need some help in understanding this --

LARRY SILVERSTEIN. I know what he said, and when, and yes, I do believe he was 'involved' in allowing the WTC destruction, paid BILLIONS for his 'involvement' // to what degree I can only imagine since he did indicate giving the okay to bring WTC7 down (because there had been so much loss of life already ... etc., etc.., sure tell me another one and see if I'll believe your concern even more so) // Don't think so.

But I'm having trouble understanding WHY the insurance companies (Allegiance or whatever the last name was holding out final payment until only recently) -- PAID the guy anything? I thought insurance companies wanted to keep their $$ // that they had investigators whose job was (is) to make sure they keep the $$ even at the expense of the insured, like Katrine, like medical and death payments, etc.

WHY would they hold out but end up paying for something that so very many of us have come to question? I mean we're talking BILLIONS here -- not a dollar and a quarter late video rental fees.


exactly.


the news media tells us "contractors" being killed as the general public thinks "bob the builder" not mercenary hitmen.


Just something that popped into my 'insane' head.
jbrid1138 | 07.23.07 - 7:29 am | #

heres the deal, they are granted no-bid cheney contract, paid more money, but funded from the same place and unaccountable for atrocities committed for hiding behind a "private corporate banner". they do things that make the people there hate Americans MORE, making the GI's job far more dangerous, in effect using them as human shields, scapegoats.


Treason

GOOD DAY TO THE CONGRESS, THE SENATE, THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE ENTIRETY, THE MIC, THE WEAPONS CONTRACTORS, THE KICKBACKERS AND THE LAKEYS, AND ANY OTHER SON OF A BITCH WHO PROFITED OF THIS INVASION & WAR, WHO DECEIVED THE PEOPLE AND RAPED THIS NATION.
noun

Willful violation of allegiance to one's country: sedition, seditiousness, traitorousness. See trust/distrust.
Willful betrayal of fidelity, confidence, or trust: perfidy, treacherousness, treachery. See trust/distrust.

tHE DEATH PENALTY BY HANGING IS THE SUGESTED SENTENCE.
These phony,pathetic human beings who call themselfs our leaders have sucked this country dry, ordered our military to invade a foriegn sovereign nation, killing 800 thousand innocents.
Deceived us about WMD's, only we have those, we just proved that fact. And our military enlisted men most of whom had no idea what they were getting in to, and took a chance to use this to further their education or to eat , and now must face their involvment and do not have choice, run by the POLS. Not by your fellow Americans.
(high treason was punishable by being hanged, drawn and quartered )


Since you bring it up CJ -- That Blackwater mention --

Are you aware there are more contractors in Iraq than there are military? It's true, read that somewhere. Got me to checking on the death rate among the group since all we hear about is the military (approaching 4000) // What I discovered didn't seem realistic -- the number count being reported was really super low, in the 10 or 20 range as I remember. Seems to me reasoning out that if there are more contractors (Blackwater included, and their main combat support role included) there rightfully ought to be more deaths we weren't hearing about. Those would still be Americans in many cases, I would think so. Maybe immigrant volunteers doing the work --

Not sure where I'm going with that --

Just something that popped into my 'insane' head.


I did check out the Mark Dice (Harry Potter) video book release // What a bunch of jerks. Living in dreamland. Can understand why but not ignoring truly important matters, this surely puts these otherwise fine folks in a group all to themselves -- Hopefully not a very big group, but probably one of the BIGGEST, considering.

Saved the site as favorite.


Paul Rever is riding through Boston,screaming his warning loud and clear.
THE NEOCONS ARE COMING, THE NEOCONS ARE COMING.
Not funny huh?
But then again neither are tne Neocons, what pathetic human beings they are. It takes all types to make this world, but these guys are in a class of their own.
By the way, the clock is ticking, times a wasting, 2008 my freinds is too late.
If the bubble people and chest beating US stamped and approved citizens do not wake up to the reality, lets mail them to Iraq to support the troops, along with the congress, senate, and regime ( Elites).
No food on the table, no lights in the hsoue, or no electricity, Blackwater Mercs in the street or Nato, freespeach contrary to the Ol Gov. a crime punishable by imprisonemnt by homeland, no habeus Corpus, no money in the bank, and forclosures right and left. Maby they will get the hint. Their CONCIENCE didnt wake them up maby this will. kINDA LATE THOUGH ,huh/


Jbrid. That last link is so important, I had to comment early. I recently put away my last beer.
Not that it was my actual last, but my last intended.
Upon getting your "link" , I pulled it out again. Thanks for renewing my faith. I will now continue the watching the dissertation.


Hey, there's only six of us Visitors online // and 3 or 4 of those are probably in other sections of the forum. While waiting for the truly insane to join -- pay close attention to this, please, it's important:

Male Restroom Etiquette
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h? v=IzO1mCAVyMw


im taking to the hills today
locked and loaded
i will only comeback if no nukes go off before 2:30


Just to re hash for you truants,
patriotsquestion911.com has a new forum
50+airline and aviation pilots who question 911
GET IT NOW


Good morning Baldmanace. You are the dragonslayer. On the edge.


www.MarkDice.com
New video. Check it out.


gabe
there is only one difference between us and them

their gunna dieieieieiieieieeieieieieieei

welcome to the jungle baby


OK. Coffees up people. Me and Jbrid are tired of manning the cannons. Time to get into the fight. Don't make me talk to myself all damn day.
What do I have to do, get on by knees and beg?


Did the "Red Shield" ever call you back Alex?


Alex, I know it is totally self indulgent, but please sneak David Icke onto the show on an off day. We totally love him.


And who is this in this photo of the Bohemian Grove? "Tricky dicky! Uncle Ron!"- David Icke

Accurate, and revealing. Good damn job David.


Gabe and Jbrid man the walls, while noble truthers gain their much needed rest. We shall unsheath our swords should an enemy appear out of the fog!


If I were to truly describe how I have always felt about "Newt Gingrich", I am sure that I would be permanently barred from posting comments at this forum. And those of you who know me, know me to be a very "liberal conservative".

Attention all patriots. Mark Dice has just posted a rather funny new video on his website www.MarkDice.com regarding the new "Harry Potter" release.

check it.


And speaking of DAVID ICKE // I recommend reading 'Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster' // A perfect title for an important subject. An education all by itself.

The man is a true genius. Doesn't matter if you believe or not -- He is -- it shows up quite clearly in his writings and his observations of the things he tells us. Not all of it good. Just open your minds and listen, and THINK --

That last part is always important.


One 'insane' (slight insulted) person checking in with the forum here -- thinking about Newt Gingrich's earlie low class and lame brained idiotic statement regarding truthers -- calling us 'insane' // I want to take this opportunity to wish the other 'insane' truthers out there in forum land a Happy-Happy Day with possible impeachment on the horizon; and best wishes to each of you poor 'insane' people who in your efforts to seek a better tomorrow for the entire world -- must encounter such lame brained remarks as coming from Mr. Newt Gingrich and crowd.

A better tomorrow -- That's exactly what would result if the current Administration was called out for what they are (and impeached) -- i.e., gangsters; no better or worse than Al Capone and his mob of thugs. This time around, the bad guys are a bit more educated (many of them lawyers, many of them inside our Congress) but still guilty of doing the same stupid crimes against humanity // On a much grander scale. And granted their weapons are a tad more sophisticated. Jets and bombs and Psyops.

For you 'others' reading this -- those 'true-blue' patriotic followers of the official story of 9/11 -- in actuality, the sad yet asleep lot you are -- The ones feeling a confused thought or two (that's okay that's just YOU starting to question the idiotic happenings yourself -- turning a bit 'insane' yourself) // My sincere wishes for you too to fully WAKE UP -- and in doing so -- a hearty WELCOME extended to you too in helping restore our wonderful country. Better late than never.

And those WAKING TO THE TRUTH -- congratulations, you've gotten past the difficult anger part, past the equally difficult disbelief part, and have just now started to see things in an entirely different light. Amazing isn't it -- tricked for so long and didn't even realize it.

Makes you sick to remember you too were on the side of nonsense, believing truly 'insane' things in NOT BELIEVING THE TRUTH. Calling others 'insane' -- well --

9/11 was an inside job.

What a jerk this Newt Gingrich is // And his parents too -- I mean who names their son "NEWT"? That should have been clue number one.


And everyone stop making fun of David Icke. David is an intelligent and well spoken man. People use to laugh at those who said the world was flat. I think we owe David the benefit of the doubt. I have looked at many of his presentations, and there is nothing "scam" about it.
If we are not willing to listen, how will we ever hear?
Even the most famous of generals leaned from their horses to hear a child speak, or a dog bark.

I like David Icke. Something tells me he is a good person. I trust him.


The truth is gonna raise brows. Show the law to Edward and Elaine Brown, or else throw the case out.

www.Phillip morris.com


In fact, I am currently so disgruntled, I am about to launch my own personal website entitled.....

www.911truthsonofabitch.com

If you ever post a comment there that does not include at least one profanity, or a violent connotation, you will be barred from participating.


In fact, to tell the embarrasing truth, there are only six registered members at 911 truth Virginia.
That is totally a joke.
I don't even remember how many at Grand Junction, but it aint much.


Hi Ron.
Hey people, we need more members at 911 truth Grand junction and Virginia. There is literally a damn echo in there!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Virginia is OUR NATIONS CAPITOL!!!!!!!!!!
Every one log on and let's get these sites a rolling with some truth steam!

I swear to God, I was the first commenter on BOTH SITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is rediculous. Cause they just tolerate me here at the PP.


I am not worried about cholesterol. I am not worried about aids. I am not worried about cancer.
I am worried about God.
HELLOOOOOO!!!! There is a big echo in here.....
Gabriel Alan King | 07.23.07 - 4:00 am | #

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Echo, echo.........


Many Hollywood movies and TV shows are actually quite good. But they need to be confronted and tempered with the truth. I don't care if Bruce Willis makes a movie called "Live free of Die Hard". What does it mean to me, Bruce?

Until you join www.patriotsquestion911.com, I am angry.
What is the hold up, the photo op? I am a fan of yours Bruce. I watch all the Die Hard movies, they are awesome. Please get on with Charlie Sheen. America needs your leadership. NOW.


I am not worried about cholesterol. I am not worried about aids. I am not worried about cancer.
I am worried about God.
HELLOOOOOO!!!! There is a big echo in here.....


Actually, Dick Chaney literally begged Norm Minetta to stop the planes, but Norm bitch slapped him. Yeah, right.

Chaney you piece of shit. I'll kill you with my bare hands you Satanic devil. Burn hot in hell you son of a bitch. What kind of Vice President is he? I mean, just look at him! Everyone knows he is pure evil!

Bush is just a mind controlled Homo who loves the circus and the money. He likes the attention. He is also a comedian. I actually feel sorry for Bush jr. The lies are twisting him like a red rope.

That is why I offer him amnesty if he confesses.


Definately freedom fighters. I don't need big brother eye balling me!

Hey, news break. New section on www.patriotsquestion911.com

50+pilots and Aviation professionals question the official story.


Vandals, freedom fighters or patriots, you decide, have been targeting speed cameras near the Scottish border along the A68, the A1 and the A697 in Berwickshire. Seven attacks in three years have officials and Big Brother supporters worried.

Hurray!!! I've decided: freedom fighters and patriots. No doubt about it !


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The truth is, America was founded through non violent protest. You see, when the Red coats advanced with their bayonets and black powder rifles, George Washington and the militia just sat unarmed on the ground. Eventually, the British became perplexed and just left America.
The French were non violent too. Cause that is how you maintain a powerful nation in Europe. You just sit there with your fucking finger up your ass while your wives and daughters are raped.

"And a fine fit you were, Mistress Macgregor."- Archie, Rob Roy.

So let's all just cower like pussy worms to the New World Order.


Remember to squint one eye and grit your teeth as you say "ARGGG!". Proper form.


Course I gotta find me a treasure first. Maybe I'll just rouse up some seadogs and steal the fucking gold they found under the WTC wreckage!

ARGGG!!!!!!!


Maybe I should just get an eye patch, a parrot, a ship, and a treasure map. That is about how alienated I feel from the "normal people".

Yo ho ho and a bottle of Rum. I don't count sheep to get to sleep, I count Arabs with box cutters.


And George, stop with the whole Al Qaeda thing, it's getting old. Bigfoot is real. Osama is not. 6 fucking years and the most powerful nation on earth and her allies still haven't caught him?
Just stand up the Chaney George. Stand up the Rockefeller and the Rothschilds and the Committee of 300. I know you can you little rascal. We will totally back you. Our whole military will.
Fuck the bad aliens too. We can dupe their wookie! Let's tell America the truth and kick all their asses. Come on George, overcome the mind control. Lucifer isn't God. He is a punk with too many toys.


Is George Bush jr a President, or a comedian? It's hard to tell sometimes. Usually we laugh at him. Sometimes we laugh with him. The guy is a damn celebrity. The man we love to hate.
Hey George, stop the charade and bring the troops home. We are not going to prosecute you cause you were born and raised in a fucked up family. Cut the shit, golf boy.


I wonder what they are doing at the Bohemian Grove tonight? Sure we won't see it on CNN. Wake up people. Occult caananite rituals? A 40ft stone owl? Secrecy?

Somebody lend me a semi automatic weapon and 2000+ rounds and ill get it done myself. Wanna play with the real Chucky?


Forgive my, inhospitalities. I feel as if I am just twiddling my thumbs waiting to see ENDGAME. It's driving me nuts. I think it is scheduled for release in September?
Rats.


Ah, the whole comment page all to myself!

"You are mine to toy with.........."


"For those about to truth, we salute you!"


Hey folks, Kermit "the " frog here for Sesame street news. Larry Silverstein recently admitted that his "pull it" comment was referring to a sexual organ! Thanks for the intel Larry, a little more than we needed to know.

And bi curious George Bush jr. the "Skull & Bones cowboy" says that Al Qaeda is planning a nuclear strike using suitcase bombs against Sesame street! So please report any suspicious activity, to Gonzo, Big Bird, or Animal.


Hey Ted, you need to be a member of a local "Bear" lodge to say that. You'll find one at the "fork in the road"!!!


I'm not evil! I am just a fat alcoholic who loves hookers and pretending we have a "democratic" government.

Yes, I am your Teddy bear!


I don't know what is wrong with you guys. I voted for an evil government!

Just bypass the names and the political parties, and at the bottom it says "Check good, or evil" and I always check evil. That is my political party. The evil party.

Light cannot exist without the darkness. But darkness can exist without the light. That is the beauty of it!

So vote for evil, CAUSE YOUR GONNA GET IT ANY WAY.

(I hope to God you don't take this seriously)


It's time we use our love to heal the sick. Thanks. Tim.

Rick Seigel discusses misuse of his video on the John Gibson Show.
http://www.911researchers.com/ fi...el17Jul2007.mp3
http://911researchers.com/node/ 7...720#attachments

Jim Hoffman from 911research.wtc7.net talks about Jim Hoffman and 9/11 Scholars (19th box down on this page)
http://www.visibility911.com/arc...om/ archives.php
http://visibility911.libsyn.com/ ...post_id=237474#
http://archive-b02.libsyn.com/ po...911_hoffman.mp3
Tim | 07.22.07 - 11:48 pm |
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Maybe the reason the truth movement isn't having the effect we think it should is because we spend too much time on facts and not enough on compassion. In our hurry to be first or best or brightest , we stampede on those who , given a little more time , and patience , and love would have been able to come on board.
Tim, you have made me realize its not about timing. We are in a hurry tp get the info out before the next --- whatever --- happens. In a hurry because of fear mostly. And pride too.
Maybe we should remember what is important. People as individuals. Like a republic should be.
Whether we are making a film or just making a point.
I am sorry if I have been hard on anyone here today. You know who you are , and if I have hurt you , I pray and ask you to forgive me.
Maybe the truth movement isn't lacking in facts, its lacking love , and we ourselves are hampering the cause we cherish.
We need to give the Creator more credit. He is on our side . Lets take courage in that !!!!!!!.
And lets be careful out there ( and in here)


OK a joke is a joke, but really, the person that has been sending posts out as ted kennedy,bill clinton, condi rice etc.etc

STOP WASTING SPACE!
creep!

P.S.
not even funny!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 07.23.07 - 12:22 am
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I love the stuff you post ATHF.
However...
I thought it was very clever and funny. I couldn't stop laughing !
But humor is a very personal thing its true. So I respect you and your opinion very much. I just wanted to offer mine.
sincerely,


What I find most disturbing is that when you research the information, it's so obvious huge parts of what's going on in the USA... yet if you try to tell anyone almost, they immediately look at you like you're nuts.

Talk about brainwashed! Even intelligent people I previously thought, thought for themselves. Truth seekers are labeled conspiracy theorist loonies by our mass media, and apparently even those who watch very little television are receiving the required dose of crap.

Anywho, I've only just this past week stumbled upon these truths, such as the Federal Reserve's roll in our government and the US's true financial condition, peek oil, what the patriot act and it's 2006 ammendments and such mean to us people, as well as emergency health acts put into effect, (don't remember the exact name) and what all this means and adds up to.

I will continue researching truth. I am so grateful for the internet as it stands today, though encrouched upon and things disappear at times, a certain freedom is still available to us for now to find out the truth, though I'm guessing we will soon lose parts of that freedom.


THEY ARE MAKING THEIR MOVE ON US NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!, TONIGHT AND THIS MORNING.................


OK a joke is a joke, but really, the person that has been sending posts out as ted kennedy,bill clinton, condi rice etc.etc

STOP WASTING SPACE!
creep!

P.S.
not even funny!


I am so angry at the New World Order, that if I were "Dr. David Banner" I would have turned into the Hulk long ago.


I replaced everything with hand-cranked versions, no batteries, anyone that buys anything battery powered in todays society is nuts!

http://www.ufovideo.net/NIGHTMARE2.htm


Labor playing politics with Haneef case: Downer
July 23, 2007 - 8:00AM
Source: ABC
Foreign Minister Alexander Downer has accused Labor of trying to undermine the Australian Federal Police (AFP) for political purposes.

Queensland Premier Peter Beattie has compared the police handling of the Mohamed Haneef terrorism investigation to the "Keystone Cops".

But Mr Downer claims Mr Beattie is taking up the attack on the police investigation on behalf of Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd.

"He is trying to undermine public support in the Federal Police for party political reasons, to try by one remove to attack the Howard Government, and I think we can do better than that as a society from our premiers," he said.

Meanwhile Mr Downer says the courts, not the media, should be deciding the merits of the case against Haneef.

Today's The Australian newspaper says police wrote the names of overseas terrorism suspects in Haneef's diary and then later questioned him about whether he had made the entries.

The paper says the police later admitted their mistake.

Mr Downer says the judicial process should be allowed to run its course.

"Let the court decide on these things, let's not have the media trying to hear the whole case before the court does - that's the job of the court," he said.

But a former head of counter-terrorism in the Attorney-General's Department says it is the Federal Government which is using legal processes for political advantage.

Alan Behm says the Government has promoted issues like the prosecution of Haneef and the Tampa refugee affair to boost its political stocks.

"When careful investigation and legal matters are under way it's simply unwise for governments to intrude in the matter, to tell everyone how well they're going," he said.

"You simply become a hostage to fortune then, if the evidence falls over and the case is dismissed and you're left looking silly."

Mr Beattie says he remains concerned about inconsistencies in the case and the Federal Government's failure to explain the cancellation of Haneef's visa.

"The other thing that worries me is if we go through this, trying to deal with this problem - and I'll use that in a general sense - and we don't adequately and fully explain it, then at the end of it the terrorists win because they undermine public confidence in the anti-terrorism laws," he said.
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OK! This is for those Who don't Know,
Dower is a NWO puppet Just like his Boss John Howard who is the head puppet of the NWO in Australia Just Like Bush is Here in the USA,
9/11 was a Inside JOB!
& these Clowns Sing the same old NWO song = Terrorism! Terrorism!Terrorism! We the Gov have to Keep the Population Safe From The Gov Fabricated Terrorists! But at the Sacrifice of all Your Rights & Freedoms to Protect you,

Yeah Right!( Fuck You!) EVIL GOV NWO BASTARD TERRORISTS FOR A NOT SO SAFE WORLD!
YOU DID the 9/11 Attacks & Now You Want To Keep Us All Safe Form YOU? NO THANKS! &
FUCK YOU EVIL NWO GOV PUPPET BASTARDS!!!

Proves with out a doubt These Evil NWO puppet bastards ALL Work With Bush & the New World Order (Gangster-berg Mob!)

DEATH TO THE THE AUSTRALIAN NWO TOO!
DEATH TO ALL YOU EVIL POLITICAL NWO PUPPETS! & YOUR EVIL NWO CONTROLLED MEDIA WORLD WIDE!
DEATH TO THE NWO!


Many of the guns turned in the past were old, beat up, forgotten, never used in crimes, and quite possibly never would be, but Chicago police officer Ron Holt, who lost his son, argues that any gun turn in is meaningful.

"It'll definitely make a difference. We don't care. No questions asked," said Ron Holt, victim's father.

Blair Holt's dad and mom and the other parents who came to City Hall Thursday were praised by aldermen and the mayor for their strength and for channeling their grief and anger into activism.

What a bunch of CRAP!

Again I say, show me one firearm that woke up one morning and said "think I'll go kill someone today!" not realistic,people murder people, guns do not!


Hi guys. I had no idea that Rick Seigel (9/11 EyeWitness) was pissed that his video from Hoboken was supposedly manipulated to make the video 9/11 Mysteries. Everyone should listen to this interview from the MSM John Gibson radio show. I don't think Rick even realized that this show ended up using him to discredit the 9/11 Truth movement as a whole (although I'm not sure that was the aim of it from the start - that is where it went). Rick just wanted to air his discontent with certain people in the movement, not discredit the movement as a whole.
There is a lot of anger amongst the different elements of the 9/11 Truth movement lately. A lot of anger over issues, that, while important to straighten out (ie. no plane theory), are distracting away from the facts that everyone agrees on, the most important being the controlled demolition of the towers as well as many others. This anger is splitting the 9/11 movement into pieces. Jim Fetzer has also been alienated to a degree. Whether rightly so or not I don't know.
One thing I am sure of is that conflict is usually never just one side's fault. We all have fault when it comes to impatience, miscommunication and anger. I am really concerned about all that is going on in the movement. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I think the only way that we are going to make it through this is if all groups begin to at least listen to each other without calling each other crazy and other names. Just to be listened to in entirety and not jump to dismissal without discussion helps to create bonds and further the thinking process, even if we know that the person being listened to is way off base. We have to band together to win this fight and start trusting each other, and if parting ways is inevitable, then to do our best to remain on amicable terms.
This is a call to everyone on Prison Planet to keep an eye open for splintering within the 9/11 Truth movement and to try to help mend bridges wherever possible. While we can't force people to not be angry with each other, we can try to facilitate listening and discussion and friendship as much as possible. Sometimes it takes a lot of time to get over anger. But with people there to help, it can make a big difference. We have spent a lot of time over the last few months building a great family here. Some have even been here for years. We aren't the only 9/11 Truth family, but we are a damn good one. It's time we use our love to heal the sick. Thanks. Tim.

Rick Seigel discusses misuse of his video on the John Gibson Show.
http://www.911researchers.com/ fi...el17Jul2007.mp3
http://911researchers.com/node/ 7...720#attachments

Jim Hoffman from 911research.wtc7.net talks about Jim Hoffman and 9/11 Scholars (19th box down on this page)
http://www.visibility911.com/arc...om/ archives.php
http://visibility911.libsyn.com/ ...post_id=237474#
http://archive-b02.libsyn.com/ po...911_hoffman.mp3


Relative still waiting for permission to visit Haneef: lawyer
July 23, 2007 - 12:15PM
Source: ABC
The lawyer representing Gold Coast-based doctor Mohamed Haneef says a relative who flew in from India over the weekend has not yet received permission to see the accused terrorism supporter.

Imran Siddiqui is the cousin of Haneef's wife and has vowed to remain in Australia until he can take Haneef home.

Lawyer Peter Russo says he has made an application to the Australian Federal Police (AFP) for Mr Siddiqui to visit Haneef.

But Mr Russo has warned him he may have to stay in Australia for a long time.

"At the moment I'm just trying to sort through some of the family issues," he said.

"Now that Imran is here, obviously I have to spend some time with him trying to resolve some of the issues with him.

"There's a few things we need to sit down and get down so that he can explain it properly to the family back in India."


Govt hiding behind anti-terrorism cloak: Beattie
July 23, 2007 - 11:46AM
Source: ABC

Police faulted on case: Gold Coast doctor Mohamed Haneef

Queensland Premier Peter Beattie has accused the Federal Government of "incompetence" and of hiding behind a cloak of anti-terrorism secrecy in the case against accused terrorism supporter Mohamed Haneef.

Speaking on Southern Cross Radio, Mr Beattie said leaks and inconsistencies in the case against Haneef were undermining public confidence in Australia's anti-terrorism laws.

"I've got to tell you I've never seen such an incompetent explanation of what's going on from the Federal Government, they should wake up to themselves," he said.

"I don't enjoy being in this position, they should just wake up to themselves and tell the Australian people the truth."

He says if mistakes have been made, authorities should own up.

"The Minister, at the end, the buck stops with him, [he] should be explaining it," he said.

"You either say 'we stuffed it up, I'm sorry we stuffed it up and this is now what we're going to do', or you find some explanation that frankly I can't find at the moment."

Yesterday Mr Beattie said the AFP's handling of the case had been reminiscent of the "Keystone Cops".

His comments today came as The Australian newspaper reported that AFP officers wrote the names of terrorism suspects in Haneef's personal diary after he was taken in for questioning in Brisbane.

The paper said police then asked Haneef if he had written the names, before admitting their mistake.


Oh what A Mess! !


http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanm.../ stanmeyer.html

gabe, did you download all the notes and drawings for that hydrogen extractor ?
theres a guy on e-bay selling plans too.


Bush may attack Pakistan just for something to do. They should tell him to take his bombs and stuff, to shine them up real pretty, turn them sideways and stick them straight up his candy ass (thanks Rock).
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worst part is Bush would Enjoy it because Bush is a Evil NWO Homosexual! So are most of those At the White House, Bush's Bum Buddies !


Bush may attack Pakistan just for something to do. They should tell him to take his bombs and stuff, to shine them up real pretty, turn them sideways and stick them straight up his candy ass (thanks Rock).


Monday July 23, 11:49 AM
Police criticised for Haneef 'blunder'
The case against Mohamed Haneef has unravelled further with police being accused of doctoring evidence against the man charged with supporting a terrorist organisation.
Reports suggested police had written the names and contact numbers of overseas terror suspects in Haneef's personal diary, or on extracts from the diary, before asking the accused during an interview if the potentially incriminating notes were his handwriting.
Haneef, 27, told police he had not written the notes, according to extracts from the record of interview published in The Australian and conducted shortly after Haneef's arrest at Brisbane airport on July 2.
The damaging claim followed revelations that, contrary to evidence presented to a Brisbane court by prosecutors, Haneef's mobile phone SIM card was not found in a burning car that crashed into Glasgow airport on June 30.
On Sunday, Australian Federal Police commissioner Mick Keelty also denied News Ltd reports that Haneef was being investigated for plotting to bomb the Gold Coast's Q1 tower, the world's tallest residential building.
Haneef's barrister Stephen Keim said there were serious questions about why police would write on a diary that could be required as evidence.

"Why would investigating police officers write on something which may later turn out to be evidence?" Mr Keim told ABC Radio.

"So it's more a question of an issue of policing rather than issues in the case against my client."

He did not suggest police had tried to trick his client.

The federal government in turn accused Haneef's lawyers of waging a campaign to undermine anti-terrorism laws through a series of politically damaging leaks about aspects of the case.

"These matters should not be dealt with in the way in which they have, either by leak or by counter-leak or whatever," Attorney-General Philip Ruddock told Southern Cross Broadcasting.

Asked whether the case was a mess, he replied: "No, what I think has happened is that people who have views about the nature of the law are determined to try and bring it into disrepute.

"That's what I think is happening."

Deputy Prime Minister Mark Vaile rejected suggestions the case against Haneef was "a political arrest" for an election year.

"It's got nothing to do with desperation to get a conviction and it's got everything to do with ensuring that all Australians are secure within our borders," Mr Vaile told Southern Cross Broadcasting.

"We, as a government, have absolute confidence in Mick Keelty as the head of the Australian Federal Police and they are highly regarded across the world.

"I'm sure that Mick would be very concerned that the organisation that he heads up is having these assertions made about it. He would be very keen to clear the matter up."

Queensland Premier Peter Beattie said the federal government needed to explain inconsistencies in the case against Haneef, who is being held in custody in Brisbane.

"My only concern with all of this is to ensure that this is properly and adequately explained to the Australian people," Mr Beattie told ABC Radio.

"The level of cynicism which is developing here is going to continue, and then that undermines public confidence in the anti-terrorism laws."

The constant leaking of material had been "crazy and unacceptable", he said, as all levels of government and police were working to defeat terrorism.

Mr Beattie's criticism contrasts with federal Labor's support for the AFP and its refusal to attack the decision of Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews to cancel Haneef's visa after the accused was granted bail.

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said Mr Beattie was trying to undermine public support for the AFP.

Mr Keim said broader public policy questions had to be asked after the series of blunders in the case.

Greens Senator Kerry Nettle called for an investigation into the leaks that have plagued the Haneef case, particularly the false information given to Sunday newspapers that the hospital registrar may have been planning to attack the Q1 tower.

"I am deeply concerned that this case is raising both serious and ongoing questions about the possibility of government involvement in trying to tarnish Dr Haneef's name," Senator Nettle said in a statement.

"In particular, there needs to be an investigation into who leaked the untrue claims that Dr Haneef was looking at skyscrapers in Australia for a sinister purpose."

She challenged Mr Keelty to explain whether police had written in Haneef's diary, as reported by The Australian.

Hey NWO evil Bastards! looks like your all coming Unstuck at your Evil seams & the The Truth is Spilling Out
Just Wait till that Evil NWO Bubble Bursts! Oh what a tangled Web We Weave When We Practice to Deceive! Oh What A Mess & I see it Happening Very Soon!
The World is Ready to Condemn You Evil bastards for all your Crimes Against Humanity, YOU CAN'T STOP THE TRUTH FORM COMING & THE TRUTH IS REACHING THE WORLD FASTER THAN YOU EVIL NWO BASTARDS CAN SPIT VENOM & LIES, YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED & DEATH TO ALL YOU EVIL NWO BASTARDS!


Thanks for the "waterpoweredcar" link. That was totally awesome.


I don't understand why Alex never speak about the power of Rome. It is the key of the Kingdom of Lucifer.
Maria | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 9:37 pm | #

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the vatican, london, washington DC , the 3 city states of the planet... consider this when you hear the name "trilateral comission". they each have their OWN constitutions that are NOT the law of the surrounding land. also, rothschild's are banker to the vatican. the picture begins to form..


Yes, but you aren't in the club.
They are saving that for after they have squeezed every dollar they can out of oil.
oldman | 07.22.07 - 8:49 pm | #

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lol yup, why to supply 4-5 homes on a unit, call it a local power corporation.. and not brag about it


To understand why Bush and others governments put the same dictatorial NWO, you have to know what is going on.

Please read The Black Pope and his world ruling - Jesuit Priest of Baal - (Connection with the Vatican) http://www.sherryshriner.com/bla.../black- pope.htm
and Vatican Assassins http://www.focusnz.com/ tractsfor...anAssassins.pdf

I don't understand why Alex never speak about the power of Rome. It is the key of the Kingdom of Lucifer.


Thanks to Alex, Violet, Paul, Steve, and the whole crew there at infowars! God bless you and God willing we shall put this nightmare behind us!


Buy silver and stash it.
Buy guns and ammo, and stash them.
I have compound bows also.
Have enough food for 6 months, stashed, not where it can be found.
If you live in a large city, get out now.
Have a short wave radio and a CB radio.
I have an old generator from an old truck, and yes ,you really can crank it to charge the battery.
I built the crank myself and it works well.


Stan Meyer's Water Powered Dune Buggy.
They murdered him, as they have most people that have tried to bring this technology to the public.
They either murder them or put them in prison on some trumped up charge.
We know for a fact that hydrogen works.
Is any company doing the real R&D on it?
Yes, but you aren't in the club.
They are saving that for after they have squeezed every dollar they can out of oil.


We hear of polution daily, yet no politician that I know of has formed a commite to investigate legitimate and inexpensive alterantives. Thus paving the way not only for less polution, but bringing the oil companys legitiante competition, and reducing their profits, a no, no.
Oil is king and will not reliquish its throne.Its my oppinion either the inventors and scientist are on a enormous payroll or payoff, or dead.
chris jones | 07.22.07 - 8:15 pm | #

prime example: http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanm.../ stanmeyer.html
this man was killed in 98, wanted it for the world.
download his notes and diagrams at the bottom of the page. big oil and paid off politicians will not help, it is up to we the people to make it happen.

think, a 4 cylinder car engine powered by clean burning hydrogen extracted from water running 4-5 homes... the money saved by the homes in just a few years can allow to go all out with solar and wind power, and not have to rebuild or overhaul the engine every 2 years, nor produce the heat.


"Double your pleasure, Double your fun. Two towers fell, Double mint gum!"

I carry copies of Terrorstorm.

"WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET?"
Pretty blonde girl | 07.22.07 - 7:48 pm | #
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LOL
My sparkling new Fascist National ID Card.


We are gonna be nuked.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.22.07 - 8:04 pm | #
Gabe,
i think it is coming.
Just look at the rhetoric coming from the noe-fascists.
They NEED another terrorist attack to excite the masses for their push toward world dominance.


World polution, the subject of front page news and media spin, and the Patent Bureau WDC.
Inventors and scientists have for decades developed means of power that do not utilize fossil fuel, OIL.,GASOLINE. etc,etc,
Unfortunelty and imoraly these patents are purhased by, guess who.
I am not a scientist, I confess my knowledge of fuels severly limited.(quicky) But I met a man in 1963, I was a teenager and and was witnessed a stituation involving fuel usage and a experiemntal carberator. A neighbor purchased a new auto, he beleived the fuel gauge was defective and came to my father for advise. The carborator itself was stamped experimental and detroit was also on the stamp. My father advised the man to keep the car.46 miles per gallon was calculated in 1963. The man did not take the advise and returned to the dealer, who of course gave him a new model luxury convertibale in trade.
An inventor in I beleive it was New Hampshire developed a home heating devise during the energy crisis. He was wealthy and gave his patent to the public at no charge, he was wealthy and wanted to assist( a good man). The cost to use this machine was 30% the cost of heating fuel per month. At this time old folks were freezing to death in htier homes for lack of fuel and money to pay.The ceremony and transfer of the patent was to be given cermoniasly on a Suday morning before the man, his wife and son went to church. The camera crews and new media stations were prepared and waiting the time passed, the family did not appear,. In final the sheriff of the town being a freind and ally entered their home to find the kitchen table set for their breakfast. The inventor and his family wer never seen again, nor was the patent.
Moral of these stories, we spend billions on war, yet seek no final solution other than fossil fuel. The oil companys will not allow realistic alternatives. They flaunt unaceptable alterantives in our faces.
We hear of polution daily, yet no politician that I know of has formed a commite to investigate legitimate and inexpensive alterantives. Thus paving the way not only for less polution, but bringing the oil companys legitiante competition, and reducing their profits, a no, no.
Oil is king and will not reliquish its throne.Its my oppinion either the inventors and scientist are on a enormous payroll or payoff, or dead.
chris jones | 07.22.07 - 8:15 pm | #
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I trust in what you say, however________Where is the BEEF?


World polution, the subject of front page news and media spin, and the Patent Bureau WDC.
Inventors and scientists have for decades developed means of power that do not utilize fossil fuel, OIL.,GASOLINE. etc,etc,
Unfortunelty and imoraly these patents are purhased by, guess who.
I am not a scientist, I confess my knowledge of fuels severly limited.(quicky) But I met a man in 1963, I was a teenager and and was witnessed a stituation involving fuel usage and a experiemntal carberator. A neighbor purchased a new auto, he beleived the fuel gauge was defective and came to my father for advise. The carborator itself was stamped experimental and detroit was also on the stamp. My father advised the man to keep the car.46 miles per gallon was calculated in 1963. The man did not take the advise and returned to the dealer, who of course gave him a new model luxury convertibale in trade.
An inventor in I beleive it was New Hampshire developed a home heating devise during the energy crisis. He was wealthy and gave his patent to the public at no charge, he was wealthy and wanted to assist( a good man). The cost to use this machine was 30% the cost of heating fuel per month. At this time old folks were freezing to death in htier homes for lack of fuel and money to pay.The ceremony and transfer of the patent was to be given cermoniasly on a Suday morning before the man, his wife and son went to church. The camera crews and new media stations were prepared and waiting the time passed, the family did not appear,. In final the sheriff of the town being a freind and ally entered their home to find the kitchen table set for their breakfast. The inventor and his family wer never seen again, nor was the patent.
Moral of these stories, we spend billions on war, yet seek no final solution other than fossil fuel. The oil companys will not allow realistic alternatives. They flaunt unaceptable alterantives in our faces.
We hear of polution daily, yet no politician that I know of has formed a commite to investigate legitimate and inexpensive alterantives. Thus paving the way not only for less polution, but bringing the oil companys legitiante competition, and reducing their profits, a no, no.
Oil is king and will not reliquish its throne.Its my oppinion either the inventors and scientist are on a enormous payroll or payoff, or dead.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO


"Let's name this one, DICK."


Dickn'Bush are Americas two biggest front men. And you think America isn't the whore of Babylon? We are gonna be nuked.


Oddly enough, the twin towers fell right around the time Peter Jacksons "The Two Towers" was released. Aren't coincidences just a little to weird?


Re: Romney caught comparing ...

Paaahlease!!!!!

Hey guys don't dillute the important work you're doing with silly stories about Romney taking a campaign picture next to somebody's whimsical sign.

Mark


Actually, we use Jason Bourne as our American contact for 911. When he finished the op, we erased his memory.


THE HUNT FOR THE BOHEMIAN GROVE SASQUATCH - PICS & VIDEOS!!!!

http://www.ufovideo.net/ SKUNKAPE...UNKAPE_DVDS.htm


"Double your pleasure, Double your fun. Two towers fell, Double mint gum!"

I carry copies of Terrorstorm.

"WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET?"


Of course, I don't judge any man by the size of his burger alone, even if he is a clown! I do admit though, I like your fries, clown. Very salty!


My burgers bigger than your burger! And we are running a 911 truth theme next month. We are gonna have 911 collector cups, and kids meal boxes! Top that, Ronald.


Oh. Pluck it and stuff it Condi. I'll tell George myself.


DARTH VADER'S, err, I MEAN "GEORGE BUSH's" LAIR:

http://www.ufovideo.net/EMPIRE2.htm


"Yes, I have a laptop in the woods. I stole it from these campers, and charge the battery at peoples cabins when they are not there. I started watching and listening to Alex Jones 2 years ago. I just feel even lonier than ever now, cause all the other sasquatches just think I am crazy."


Dammit Dick! Now what am I going to tell the President? You have just created an domestic crisis that may create a rippling effect throughout the hemisphere.


my business partner Douglass says his new invention can deliver cheeseburgers and depleted uranium to the middle east at mach 4


"Grrrr!!! 911 was and inside job. Grrr!!!"


BANG! BANG!

Got IM!

I got that ugly turkey!


Bohemian Grove?


"Aaeeyee. Yo Potsie!"


Shake it J-LO!

Shake it!!

WHOOAAAA....

The ricter scales are going crazy.


"Oh baby, ooo, ooo, ooooooo."


Give that man a cigar!


"And I loved that basketball.........."


You are a strange and delusional sort. Usually to be expected from Christian types.

Perhaps you should give Mr. Gore a "burn notice". I need some blood.
Lillith Aquino | 07.22.07 - 7:33 pm | #
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U R MADE!!!!!!!!!!


Domo Wally Gato Mr. ROBOTO!

DOMO!!

DOMO!!


"And I loved that basketball.........."


I'll get my white hood. We could burn some crosses and bring the HOUSE down!


You are a strange and delusional sort. Usually to be expected from Christian types.

Perhaps you should give Mr. Gore a "burn notice". I need some blood.


Here. Here.

I mean YES! YES!


Hey Al! Right on Buddy. Do the moonwalk for us too! That will make me laugh as I sip my drink!
Ted Kennedy | 07.22.07 - 7:30 pm | #

Put some turkey feathers on him and chase him around like my 'ol lady....
Dick Cheney | 07.22.07 - 7:29 pm | #
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What a great American..........?


I don't think that is appropriate Vice President. Your heart is a bit weak for such mischief.


Hey Al! Right on Buddy. Do the moonwalk for us too! That will make me laugh as I sip my drink!


Put some turkey feathers on him and chase him around like my 'ol lady....


Actually I grabbed 2 twenty ounce "mello yello's". They were two for a buck!
Now who can complain about that? That should be enough to pee my pants.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.22.07 - 7:22 pm | #
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I said: Call Me..............GAK!


I am putting a stand down order on Al Gore. He is out of control....

Might even get my shot gun.


I hate my damn brothers!!!!!!!! Everybody loves them, but no one gives a damn about me!

Well ha ha ha. I'm still alive! That's all I ever hear about and I am sick of it!!!!

"Oh, John is so great! Oh, Jack is so handsome!" Mom always liked them best.

I need a prostitute and a fucking drink.


PP is down with the CLOWN!!


I am going to do the Robot like you never seen it done before. Move dat ass!


Is Prison Planet down?


Now G.A.K.

All you need is a glass of milk, so we can hear about the whale spray from you nose.


Ok OK!!! I admit it! Monica Lewinsky did suck my dick. But she didn't inhale.........


Actually I grabbed 2 twenty ounce "mello yello's". They were two for a buck!
Now who can complain about that? That should be enough to pee my pants.


Now Bill,

I want you home by 11 p.m. Anything else, will be considered grounds for impeachment. And those right wing nut jobs are going to infiltrate that block party and expose you before you do....


DER IT IZ!
Bill Clinton | 07.22.07 - 7:18 pm | #

O.K. O.K.

I don't mind it.
Al Gore | 07.22.07 - 7:17 pm | #

Now I don't want to be an alarmist. But J-LO can shake it and cause a mild tremor. This might be mistaken for global warming, and I don't want to be responsible for causing unreversable hysteria.
Al Gore | 07.22.07 - 7:16 pm | #
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WANKERS!


my real last name is Hitler but my mother made it half jewish so the russian soldiers could teach me some good sex. I feel very at home in COWlifornya, may the schwartz be with you.


WHOOP!

DER IT IZ!


O.K. O.K.

I don't mind it.


Now I don't want to be an alarmist. But J-LO can shake it and cause a mild tremor. This might be mistaken for global warming, and I don't want to be responsible for causing unreversable hysteria.


See you later kiddies.


Did someone say J-LO is having a block party?

Now that is FO SHNIIZZZLE!


OOOHHH.

YAAYAAAAAH....


What's up knucklehead--------I mean Pan Head?


Get Down On IT!

If YOU REALLY WANT IT!


Let's pull it together though O.K.? I don't want anybody peeing their pants.


We all have to pull together and see this through as Americans. Our country is in a climate of change...Bill

You can say that again. "Climate of Change".

Typhoons, Hurricanes, Earthquakes. It's all coming and you know it.


I'm gonna go grab a mountain dew. But in the words of Arnold "I'll be back". Then maybe after I drink enough of it I can pee my pants too!

Ohh...... kinky!


omg I am laughing so hard I think I peed myself,
is that legal ?


Oh, and Queeny,

Bring the beer.

Putin has some good R&B licks he is gonna sing for us.


I'll bring the little boys so we can all have an orgy with them. Maybe even sacrifice one to Satan. I love being out of prison. Back in the Repub! Back in the Game!

Hey, somebody whack that John De Camp guy. He's hurtin my rep!


We all have to pull together and see this through as Americans. Our country is in a climate of change. We must find unity in diversity.

Is your wife home alone right now? I got a baggy of Cocaine literally burning a hole in my pocket.....


I am having a block party. You are all invited. Condi, bring the ice. Rummy bring the moves. Henry K. bring the lozanges.


I wanna party and do some Cocaine off my 2 girlfriends tits!
David Rothschild | 07.22.07 - 6:55 pm | #

I look forward to serving you too sir.


O.K. j. If the South it is.... Then so be it. I will get my boyz right on it.

We are like Cool and The Gang. Ready to "Get Down On IT!"

"If you REALLY WANT IT!"


um l.a sucks to begin with so...... oh well......i think the dirty boamb if the new world order is smart should be in austin or somewhere in the south where the guns are. the south is a huge threat to the new world order as a matter of fact the south is the only threat to the new world order simply because of the patriots


I can't wait to get my hands on all that fuckin money! All dad said I had to do was stay out of trouble and fake people out with this global warming shit. My girlfriends love my money, and all my houses and fancy cars.

But I worked so hard for it all. I AM A GOD!!!!!!
I hope daddy won't make me go to another boring Freemason lodge meeting with Tony this weekend.
I wanna party and do some Cocaine off my 2 girlfriends tits!


please, no applause, it's supposed to be a secret I control everyone in government everywhere. those countries that want me for war crimes are just lying.


Who are these imposters??


Where is my Combe when you need him. I think I have a hair out of place.


But then one goes to your homepage, and it would seem we are together in this fight. So why the condemnation of your brothers in arms??

Please clarify Stevo, my "boy"!
Mr. Thought Crime | 07.22.07 - 5:47 pm | #
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Steve-O is an agent, just read some of his old posts, it becomes pretty obvious he wants us to burn the constitution in favor of NWO provided by steve's interpretation of what god is...most likely a papal inquisition type future


I am CUTIE PIE!

I am here to vanquish the liberal lies and promote water-boarding for ALL!!

I need a Combe....


I, um, didn't receive that paper work as of yet to my office. I believe Oliver North or Mr Schwazkopff has that information. If you send it to me, I will take a look at it.


This board is more fun than me !
WAIT ~~~ Maybe this IS me !


I am on to you Rummy.....


Certainly all of these conspiracy theories are giving me a mild headache. Charles, Charles!?!? Would you bring mumy an aspirin my boy?


I have a question Mr Rumsfeld.... What is up with the P2OG? You down with OPP?

Ya, you know me.


We are attempting to answer questions. I believe the 911 commission report covered all the pertinent questions. We are currently reviewing intelligence in cooperation with our international allies. The threat of terror is a looming shadow. We are doing our best to track the enemy. I think it's going to take more money from congress though to provide a more comprehensive analysis though.

Next question please.


I will terminate your Ass Putin! I have the jolly rancher belt buckle to prove it......


Since Pat Tillman is not around, maybe his brother can say what's up...
http://www.truthdig.com/report/i..._pats_birthday/
Scanner | 07.22.07 - 6:41 pm | #
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Thank You.


I gotta big 'OL nuke you can ride Uncle Sam!


Since Pat Tillman is not around, maybe his brother can say what's up...
http://www.truthdig.com/report/i..._pats_birthday/


We are talking Chris, aren't we?
Final Chance in South Dakota | 07.22.07 - 6:39 pm | #
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CALL!


Get THEE behind me NEWT!!


He is not Osama, I am!!!!!!!!!
You damn American capitolist Satan pigs. I will get you all, unless Batman stops me first! But I have planes, (hmm) I mean plans for HIM!!!

The last Osama was actually the ghost of Pat Tillman!
Osama Bin Laden | 07.22.07 - 6:37 pm | #
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You DO NOT EXIST! Only in the mind of Neo-ConN's!


We are talking Chris, aren't we?


I am the grinch that stole the Bill of Rights.

I have some DU for your stockings......


Did you sleep with Bush, Condi?


Timewatch: Operation Gladio - Behind False Flag Terrorism & 9/11 (part1)
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=0

Part 2
http://video.google.com/ videopla...206682910394510


He is not Osama, I am!!!!!!!!!
You damn American capitolist Satan pigs. I will get you all, unless Batman stops me first! But I have planes, (hmm) I mean plans for HIM!!!

The last Osama was actually the ghost of Pat Tillman!


Hey punk! I aint talking to no one on the phone today. NO ONE. Just bloggin & chillin. Too long a week.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.22.07 - 6:34 pm | #
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Well I AM ME-------not no one, so answer the fuckin% phone bud!


Can I get an AMEN??


Excuse me sir, but that was uncalled for.


Looking for me?


Hey punk! I aint talking to no one on the phone today. NO ONE. Just bloggin & chillin. Too long a week.


There is no way any one in this administration could have predicted terrorists using planes as weapons......

What? Oh.

Well, yes, we got confused cause we were running simultaneous drills of planes being flown into buildings on the very day 911 happened.
But I didn't know that!

Donald? Where is Donald?
Condaleeza Rice | 07.22.07 - 6:29 pm | #
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Well if Donald was up your ___ we would know where he is at...........just kidding. Donald is doing the same bullshit he has been doing for 30 years, making money off the sheep or...........


My boyfriend uses DU cologne, it's very sexy.


There is no way any one in this administration could have predicted terrorists using planes as weapons......

What? Oh.

Well, yes, we got confused cause we were running simultaneous drills of planes being flown into buildings on the very day 911 happened.
But I didn't know that!

Donald? Where is Donald?


Time to bomb Pakistan, George. Be sure to use the DU shells.


It's amazing how far the lies have gotten in America. But I guess that's what happens in a brainwashed country where people care more about money and selfish desires than they do about the truth, or doing what is right.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.22.07 - 6:15 pm | #
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Hey punk answer your phone!


YEAH!!!
Don't mess with my friend George! He is a real Cowboy! Remember, if your not with us- your with the terrorists!!!

So you guys just watch it! Ok? You better think about what your saying! I mean business! Grrr..............


We played "Monopoly" in Skull & Bones too. I always ended up owning the whole board. But if one of the other guys started winning, I just got mad and called my dad.........


Hey!!!
You guys are saying alot of bad stuff about me here! I am doing the best I can for America, and fighting Al Qaeda is a full time job in itself!

Sure I was in Skull & Bones. But it was just another harmless fraternity for God's sake! Usually we just sat around drinking beer and playing cards and Bingo and stuff. Some times we would get a little crazy and play hide and seek, or pin the tail on the donkey, but honestly, we never did anything bad!

And that stuff about laying naked in a coffin is just made up. Don't believe everything you hear. I am just trying to keep America safe. And if it takes martial law and the "safety camps" to do that when Al Qaeda attacks again, so be it.

Your President,


It's amazing how far the lies have gotten in America. But I guess that's what happens in a brainwashed country where people care more about money and selfish desires than they do about the truth, or doing what is right.


Now, back to Alex. I will join Steve in the audience.

hehehe....


But it would seem you have an axe to grind, and think we are naive. You continue throwing our molestation accusations and questioning our allegiance to the Spirit of Truth in Christ.

That is what leads one to believe you are a disinfo agent. Or just less than average I.Q. Or you just don't "READ" what is posted.....
Mr. Thought Crime | 07.22.07 - 5:43 pm | #

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Yeah, what he said!


I wanted to pull him out of his truck and curb stomp him. But cooler heads prevailed.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.22.07 - 6:05 pm | #

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who's cooler heads... surely not yourz.

hehehehe.... : )


If that is the best preaching we got scanner, we have a lot of work to do.

Funky beat though.


I saw yet another old lady in a hoveround on the sidewalk today. She had the little American flag. I couldn't get close enough to see if she had the "support the troops" sticker on the back though. I'll bet my butt she is on some kind of prescription drugs though!

I saw another guy in a truck, and I distinctly noticed among many stickers on the back, and "Bush and Chaney" support sticker. I wanted to pull him out of his truck and curb stomp him. But cooler heads prevailed.


a couple of brothers preachin'...( Don't bother if you don't care for ICP).
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=4


Steve secretly likes being called "my boy", don't you?

Again, not a close resemblance of the Spirit that you say you conted for....

// "contend" for....

My posts are hasty. Sorry. Need to check my post before submitting.


And as far as what our fore fathers "DID" to the Indians, Mexicans, and blacks, I think you are painting with a very broad brush.
Conflicts arise between peoples in every part of the world, and war is always inevitable. White settlers were massacred at times by the Indians. And the papers of the time promoted the indians as "murdering savages" thus enflaming the conflict. Just as we are being told today about "evil terrorists" and everyone believes it.
The Mexicans were warriors, and they wanted some, and they got some. Period and end of story there.
The black people were mostly GIVEN THEIR FREEDOM. White people have always fought to the death for theirs.
Sure, blacks deserve much credit for their participation in this country, and eventually differences were more than resolved.

Apparently, it appears we are at war with Mexico again. But when is the last time you heard of Canadians streaming over the border unchecked and getting away with bloody murder unmolested by the fucking bought and paid for police?

Hmmm? The plot thickens.


In fact some of you other posters are completely rotten to the core either. You've all been molested, physically and/or spiritually and your angry at God for allowing it to happen. So everyone has their reasons.
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You know Steve, you are the one who keeps bringing up the molestation stuff. Are you the one who was molested and now angry ? Is that why you feel so combative and religious ?
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Dude, who stole my country?
Gabriel Alan King | 07.22.07 - 5:37 pm
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I can only think of one creature ultimately.
and I agree that only the Creator can lead us out of this mess . Question is does the Creator need us to get the job done, or does he have another plan?


Steve secretly likes being called "my boy", don't you?

Again, not a close resemblance of the Spirit that you say you conted for....


I swear openly when I deem appropriate, because I am not a hypocrite trying to PRETEND I am perfect.

Fuckn'shitn'stuff

I am a Christian not because I am perfect, but because I believe in he who is.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.22.07 - 5:49 pm | #

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And that is the whole point. Our righteousness is as filthy rags, because it is only the Lord God who convicts the heart of unrighteousness and leads us on the straight and narrow path. It is not as much our choice as it is the leading of the Holy Spirit. Very hard for a self-righteous churchy type to understand.....


I swear openly when I deem appropriate, because I am not a hypocrite trying to PRETEND I am perfect.

Fuckn'shitn'stuff

I am a Christian not because I am perfect, but because I believe in he who is.


But then one goes to your homepage, and it would seem we are together in this fight. So why the condemnation of your brothers in arms??

Please clarify Stevo, my "boy"!


No one here is fool enough to think the Constitution is still in effect Steve. Probably a big misunderstanding. Who did that restroom stop go? (smile)


excuse me ... meant to say "throwing out".


Please Steve. Give us a break. We know all about the Executive Tyranny due to the War Powers Act and countless Executive Orders allowing the other checks and balances (including the Constitution) to be nullified... If you have been around this forum long enough, that is very apparent. But it would seem you have an axe to grind, and think we are naive. You continue throwing our molestation accusations and questioning our allegiance to the Spirit of Truth in Christ.

That is what leads one to believe you are a disinfo agent. Or just less than average I.Q. Or you just don't "READ" what is posted.....


Gabriel Alan King,

Jesus never destroyed the law or the prophets, but you do everytime you open up your potty mouth.


So EXCUSE ME but I've gotta go to the bathroom for a while and flush out some of the human waste I've had to read on this board.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 5:36 pm | #

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Flush twice, it's a long way to your brain
Ass hole. Idiot fucking moron.


Kool. I just like to remain Anony from time to time. But oh well. Still getting calls from govt. operatives.


Oh, and we are so "FREE" now, that we can't even video tape a group of cops pulling a "Rodney King" or anything else. It's called "Felony wiretapping", and for it you can receive prison and fines!!!

Dude, who stole my country?


Maybe I should start a list of catchy names. Anony's might find one they like.


Mr Hate Speech.
Anonymous | 07.22.07 - 5:34 pm | #

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tat would work.
you give many good contributions to this forum, it would be a way for us to separrate your words from newbies.......


Anonymous,

Sane like's it when I call him boy. It reminds him of the good old days when he used to go to church.

But in all seriousness I don't have anything against sane personally. I know the poor guy is just a mentally derranged mixed up teenager that's trying to make sense of this messed up world.

In fact some of you other posters are completely rotten to the core either. You've all been molested, physically and/or spiritually and your angry at God for allowing it to happen. So everyone has their reasons.

But even though it's painful and it may seem unbarable at times, a little truth won't kill you, it might even help you out a little.

If anyone has ever read a history book, or went to elementary school and found out what your fore fathers did to the Indians, Mexicans, African's etc. it might open your eyes a little about how corrupt your forfathers really were.

I'm not saying they were any more corrupt than the current administration, but "Nothing is new under the sun" And in the same way we're illegally invaded Iraq and slaughtered innocent people they did it to the Indians, Mexicans and Africans, SO LET'S GET REAL HERE.

i DON'T EVEN COMPLETELY DISAGREE with the US constitution, in fact there are what I consider to be some pretty good laws written in it, the problem is NOBODY IN GOVERNMENT FOLLOWS THE CONSTITUTION IT'S NULL AND VOID.

Or are you happy campers about the way the current check and balance system works?

The president was supposed to be a public servant, HIRED HELP, and there were supposed to be checks and balances in the system, but anyone with an ounce of honesty will admit that the white house is corrupt, the congress is bought and paid for by lobbyists and the judicial system is nothing more than a cheap prostitute.

And I hope the lady's of the night who rent their bodies out for some money don't take any offence, because I didn't mean to insult them by calling some of the worse scum on the planet by the same name they go by.

Point being. You people that think the constitution has not been breached or is still in effect are at par with the people who still buy the governments fairy tale about 9/11 and the scam about the Iraq war. So when I hear some of your worthless nonsense about how great the constitution is and how an old chunk of paper will save us it makes me want to throw up.

Listening to some of you guys vomit out what you call posts is like listening to Sean Hamnity. I can only stomach so much. Even though I forgive you for your blind ignorance, I'm only human and can only take so much B.S.

So EXCUSE ME but I've gotta go to the bathroom for a while and flush out some of the human waste I've had to read on this board.


Or perhaps...

Mr. Thought Crime


How 'bout this name Michael?... I kinda like this:

Mr Hate Speech.


The Constitution is not our "MASTER". It merely affords us the opportunity to serve our "MASTER" with greater liberty.
Anonymous | 07.22.07 - 5:26 pm |

Whichever master that is. Free will allows us to choose. Without free will there is no love.


Steve is busy, he's listening to Alex.


WARNING: Information provided here will challenge your comfort zone and will involve some reading and research.

Can you handle the truth ?

All this nonsense needs to stop! People need to wake up to the reality of what is truly going on with this country known as America. Most importantly, this raises the defining question, do you really wish to be classified as a U.S. Citizen? When I ask people --

Are you a US Citizen? .... and of course, most say YES, then I inform them about the US Code, actual citing 28 USC 3002 (15) A]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscod.../html/uscode28/ usc_sec_28_00003002----000-.html

and it defines the UNITED STATES as a corporation; then I ask them, "can you be a Citizen of Wal-Mart or Microsoft "? then of course they say NO, but then some try to say, well this is a country....which my response to that is ....not by definition it is not! The united States of America was a nation set up as a republic, but when you read this link:

www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html

you find out when that all changed in 1933 and why it is now a corporation.

The UNITED STATES CODE (USC) is the UNITED STATES corporation's governing code, period. Then some will attempt to say that they are citizens of the "California" (insert any State here) Republic. Ok, but there is no longer a Republic, anywhere, any more! People need to start reading and understanding how attorneys/ lawyers have altered the meaning of some common every day words to serve the corporation''s purposes. Some may call it legalese, and of course that is what it is.... but this has all been cloaked on purpose.

The attorneys, serving their masters, the international banking cartel or "banksters", used legal trickery to form these non-existent legal entities -- cities, counties, states, supposed federal governments, and in doing so, have created a monster big brother police state corporation.

Yes, indeed, boys and girls, the STATES are not sovereign as some people think, they are all under the big corporate umbrella --UNITED STATES -- and interestingly enough, this happened in 1933 as well. www.csg.org or go research the USC ! In 1933, the government was incorporated, or commercialized. To Commercialize means to "EXPLOIT." Therein lies the reason why the powers that be, "THE ATTORNEYS", change this conventional government to a legal fiction. This was to exploit with words, and done by the very men or women that hide behind the names or words.

Excerpt from book, "WOE UNTO YOU LAWYERS", written in 1939 by the late Fred Rodell, Professor of Law, Yale University:

It is the lawyers who run our civilization for us - our governments, our business, our private lives. Most legislators are lawyers; they make our laws. Most presidents, governors, commissioners, along with their advisers and brain-trusters are lawyers; they administer our laws. All the judges are lawyers; they interpret and enforce our laws. There is no separation of powers where the lawyers are concerned. There is only a concentration of all government power - in the lawyers. As the schoolboy put it, ours is "a government of lawyers, not of men."

It is not the businessmen, no matter how big, who run our economic world. Again it is the lawyers, the lawyers who "advise" and direct every time a company is formed, every time a bond or a share of stock is issued, almost every time material is to be bought or goods to be sold, every time a deal is made. The whole elaborate structure of industry and finance is a lawyer-made house. We all live in it, but the lawyers run it.

And in our private lives, we cannot buy a home or rent an apartment, we cannot get married or try to get divorced, we cannot die and leave our property to our children without calling on the lawyers to guide us. To guide us, incidentally, through a maze of confusing gestures and formalities that lawyers have created.

LINK to entire text of the book: www.constitution.org/lrev/rodell/ woe_unto_you_lawyers.htm

Okay, so let's put this real simply, someone nearly has to look at a city's police car to find out who they (the police officers) are truly "protecting and serving". For example, in the city known as Chicago, it is clearly displayed on the car, "City of Chicago, Incorporated 1837" along with it's corporate seal. www.chipublib.org/004chicago/chiseal.html Okay, now I know that all society's need order and a set of laws. I'm an advocate of common law myself. If you don't know what that is, go look it up.

To get an idea how whacky this corporation driven system has become, people who are working for these corporations after a while realize that there is indeed some thing terribly wrong, but most just keep their mouths shut, because it is job security and they say "hey, I am just doing my job". Getting back to the example of common law - how can a man or a woman injure a fictional entity, non-existent corporation?? They cannot, it is impossible! For even further research, do yourself a favor and read some of the great articles at

http://www.adventuresinlegalland.com

Excerpt example:

Marc: Am I entitled to a fair trial/hearing? Judge: Yes you are. Marc: Could I get a fair trial/hearing if there is a conflict of interest? Judge: No, you could not. Marc: If there was a conflict of interest, would you recuse yourself? Judge: Yes I would. Marc: Who do you represent? Judge: The State. Marc: If you represent the state, and the state is the plaintiff, then you represent a party (in this case), isn't that a conflict of interest?


Lastly, do you recall this line in the movie, "The Interpreter"? (starring Nicole Kidman & Sean Penn). Well, the truth is often revealed in movies, just people don't see or hear it for what it's sharing. A great example of an allegory movie was "Wizard of Oz" - read this link:

http://freedom-school.com/ the_wi...izard_of_oz.pdf

"Despite all the flags on First Avenue, there are no nations any more, only companies - international companies. lt's where we are. lt's what we are". -- Kuman-Kuman to Sylvia Broome in the movie "The Interpreter" in reference to the United Nations on First Avenue at 46th St. in New York.

... incidentally, the tagline for the film: The truth needs no translation.

There is something we can ALL actually do --on July 17th-- 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time

www.FireTheGrid.org a worldwide event --- One hour of prayer/ meditation to begin healing the planet

---- 7:11 am EDT ---- 6:11 am CDT ---- 5:11 am MDT ---- 4:11 am PDT ---

The author, One, Steven, is a well-researched man and is not a person, not a subject or citizen nor has any allegiance to any country, State or States in contract, not a U.S. Citizen or National, not a civilian, not a resident, not an legal entity dolus trust, not an enemy combatant, and One is not a member of any Jural, political or religious society/body. Be it also known that "person" is a word of the Private Civil Law, and a "man" is a word of nature. One governs life under natural, moral and Universal Laws of Love, Honor and Respect.

Well, what did you expect?


Thanks Henry. Forgot Alex is on Sundays.
Anonymous | 07.22.07 - 5:24 pm | #

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You're welcome.
We would appreciate it if you would choose a name.
Michael D. is now Henry Bowman.


Steve. If Jesus destroyed THE LAW of the old Testament, besides animal sacrifice and the strictness of the sabbath, and merciless stonings for misdemeanors, then by all means enlighten me. I would review Leviticus 20 and Deuteronomy 13. God ain't all fluffy happy love muffins stand down to evil.

"Think not that I have come to destroy the Law........"-Jesus

The American government, as originally penned, I the best I feel so far. But capitolism still needs fine tuning, and there are many good ideas in socialism. A blend of the two would be productive. As long as the peoples vote truly counted, and rich elites were not allowed to be secret and seize power over the government. Until we end government secrecy, both capitolism and socialism are doomed. Both are just fascism, ruled by a cabal of twisted dictators.

And government should have solid moral guidelines in line with the Bible, which cannot be overwritten.

Supposedly, our right to keep and bear arms was never to be infringed. But now the government requires licensing for everyone (infringement), and bans men ACCUSED of misdemeanors from owning a gun. They are also actively banning gun stores, and certain types of guns.

Our God given rights have been violated, and we have done little or nothing. Were fucked.


Steve, you are SO backwardz......How do you make sense of yourself?


Now regarding the constitution worshippers, who idolize a chunk of paper and worship it like a god, it's only natural that they likewise reject God's word, because "You can't serve 2 masters"
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 4:58 pm | #


The Constitution is not our "MASTER". It merely affords us the opportunity to serve our "MASTER" with greater liberty.


Thanks Henry. Forgot Alex is on Sundays.


Didn't the Bible say that God hated Esau (among others of HIS own creation). Yet for God so loved the World.... But it was in the apple of His eye so to speak, and to be brought unto "perfection"....


Rapley nedds to have a pole stuck up his ass and sent packen to the north pole


Clinton: No Military Action on Iran Without Congressional OK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h? v=ZH57L0Rw79U

Clinton all through this address to Congress repeatedly says " Our democracy" .
We do not have a Democracy, We have a democratic Republic.
Have you noticed that NON of these globalist will say America is a republic?
They ALWAYS Americas Democracy.
It is like if they say it enough times, they will get their wish.
I hate that bitch.


But Sane, the way you equate the true teachings of Jesus and all of the scriptures with your fairy tale new world order should seem rediculous, even to the likes of you. - Steve


What fairy tale New World Order???

Steve, you're losing it.


At the rate we are going, we would be as well of with Albert Pike as president and Aliester Crowley as vice.

Hate, is not necessarily evil. It is OK to "hate" eating peas, or squash, or dogshit if you so desire. Hate and evil are two different words, thus have two separate meanings. Of course, it is not good to hate our brothers because we are supposed to love them and be forgiving. But it is OK to hate evil, and those like Bush who do nothing but. But still we must occaisionally offer up prayers that the wicked will turn from their ways.

Man without government, is lawless anarchy. The law of the jungle. In nature, if a lion attacks and eats a gazelle, the gazel does not have "rights". But we humans are not like animals. We are distinctly different, and have much control, power, and choice over our behavior.

Government is necessary for the progress and protection of all men. What kind of government, is the question. All governments eventually become corrupted by lying seditious greedy evil individuals, and eventually dissolve into chaos and revolution. No matter how well intend. Neither capitolism nor communism will ever bridge the gaps to success until the people understand the utmost importance of dissolving the secret cabals that control both systems.

When we allow governments to operate in secrecy, we are only inviting the Devil. The original Constitution was a pretty good document. And the Bill of rights. But now the secret cabal of traitors in America is doing away with both piece by piece. And in all other countries as well.

Thus finally, the fourth kingdom, 7 heads, ten horns. Dreadful and terrible, treading down the whole earth, different from all kingdoms before it. "Who is like unto the beast, who can make war with him?"
And isn't that what everyone is really thinking?

It's gonna take God himself to clean up this mess. And cast the wicked out. Only when the wicked are removed, will governments have a chance to flourish in goodness.


Alex is on..........


Now regarding the constitution worshippers, who idolize a chunk of paper and worship it like a god, it's only natural that they likewise reject God's word, because "You can't serve 2 masters"
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 4:58 pm | #

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Do I need to look up the scriptures about obeying the law of the land, or do you own a good Bible?

Fucking moron.


to look back on earlier pages just edit your address box to whatever page you want.../ReaderComments50/ for instance to ReaderComments49/..easy


Steve is just like Wolfy. If anyone remembers old Wolfy, and I am sure many of you do.....


But when you or your ilk mislead people about what the scriptures say and the messages that Jesus spoke, then it's time for me to EXPOSE YOU and let the board know how rotten your fruits really are.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 2:43 pm | #


fucking stupid ass.


The Constitution is a safeguard STEVO! We hardly "worship" that historical document as you might presume. The LAW is also a safeguard. But laws are more easily rewritten than the Constitution. Perhaps that is why you spend so much time attacking it. If you really were of God, you would back off. But it would seem you wish to discredit everyone who is attempting to keep the fabric of this country in one piece. There are some things worth fighting for. Just go ask our servicemen (deceived as they may be about the exploitation of their patriotism, they are patriots nonetheless).


wow steve
i was under your spell a little earlier
but now youve got me fully mesmorized

way to put it
but lay off sane
he works hard
and for you
if the shoe fits wear it
"no planes fact"
911 octopus
911 tv fakery


Is Stevo making any sense???

By the way, your condescending approach to others on this board by calling them "boy" etc... will get you nowhere. You aren't a very proficient COINTELPRO.


Sane,

Look my boy, I understand how painful it must be to talk about God, Jesus and the scriptures since you were obviously molested by some wolves in sheeps clothing who claimed to be men of God, and like many other catholics you've completely turned away from anything to do with the bible.

I'm sure it was a very sad and painful experience you had, but you should try to understand that those preists who molested you were not of God, nor is the pope, nor any other religious wolf that uses God's name to rob, molest and murder.

In fact the scriptures warn us about people who do those things and anybody who has read the words of Jesus would understand that Jesus told us these people are vipers, snakes and murderers. He also said "Woe to those who offend the children" and "It would be better for him if a milstone were hanged about his neck and he was cast into the sea"

But Sane, the way you equate the true teachings of Jesus and all of the scriptures with your fairy tale new world order should seem rediculous, even to the likes of you. The scriptures have been around a lot longer than your new world order fantasy land games.

Now regarding the constitution worshippers, who idolize a chunk of paper and worship it like a god, it's only natural that they likewise reject God's word, because "You can't serve 2 masters"

Since ignorance is bliss some you probably feel like your in heaven living in denial and pretending that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and all those guys who slapped you constitution together were equal to Zeus, Hercules and other great gods.

And because of all this deception, naturally the truth is something none of you can come close to accepting, such as the fact that the people you worship illegally tresspassed on American soil, murdered thousands of Indians, Mexicans and kidnapped Africans, who were later murdered, raped, tortured and sold into slavery.

The people who did those cruel acts against humanity are the same people that you worship, and the same people that christians bow down to and idolize as great role models.

So feel free to continue spewing out your mindless nonsense that only brain dead zombies agree with, but don't try to impress me with your childish statements of blind ignorance and stop pretending to be 9/11 truthers when in reality you support the same regieme that is responsible for these things.


How do you look back on earlier pages??


Your worse enemy is within you, but God told you to forgive your enemies, so as long as you obey His command you should be OK, but if you worship pagan idols like the constitution which is null and void then you really don't love God, but are just a typical liar.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 1:03 pm | #

What an ass. You make me sick. Fuck off and die.


Our security is being put at even greater risk by the Bush Administration's continuing threats against Iran.
http://representativepress.blogs...07/ chomsky.html


Are You A US Citizen Or Not ?
http://www.rense.com/general77/citiz.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...YxsM7W2F8g& NR=1
Illegal Immigration Sanctuary City Policy in Tulsa Oklahoma


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...related& search=
I love this.


Ken Adachi has a sight called Educate-Yourself.org. Here is his overview of the New World Order and it's agenda:
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/
And yes, bald is beautiful!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice...r/06/ bush.shtml
Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq " And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
Abu Mazen was at the same meeting and recounts how President Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."
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Bush really is insane.


At the very least, we cannot let them do away with cash. But that is the plan. When everything becomes electronic, we will see the real resistance.....


RE: What ever happened to Wolfy anyway??
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He got his bible thumping ass ran off.
People got sick of it.


Good. Seems he forgot the verse about the beam in your own eye!


where is next door???


US marine charged over runway breach
July 22, 2007 - 7:08PM
Source: ABC
A US marine has been charged with seven offences after allegedly driving drunk onto the tarmac at Darwin International Airport last night.

Australian Federal Police (AFP) were called to the airport in the early hours of this morning after reports that an unidentified car was being driven in a restricted area.

The 21-year-old has been charged with damaging Commonwealth property, trespassing, having a restricted item in a security zone and driving under the influence.

AFP Assistant Commissioner Mandy Newton says it appears the man drove from the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) base onto the tarmac.

"The man's believed to have been staying at the RAAF base and had unlawfully driven the vehicle through the gates to the main runway area of Darwin International Airport," she said.

"As you'll appreciate, the Darwin RAAF base is adjoining the airport area and the whole of the areas are both secure areas."


Go Homer Simpson! USA! USA! USA!
Berrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!


Chris Jones rocks.
Tim | 07.22.07 - 10:22 am | #

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Hi Tim, good to see you back, we have a long road ahead of us.


RE: What ever happened to Wolfy anyway??
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He got his bible thumping ass ran off.
People got sick of it.


ownership, jordan maxwell explained it pretty well.when youre born from youre mothers waters through the birth canal into this land the portmaster/doctor issues a certificate or receipt of goods received. you have youre name, but also youre name in all capital letters, the state/corporate owned entity.


i am parked next door


The Greatest Hoax..Who owns you?
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issu...x/ whoownsu.html


Now that were even, can't we all just get along?


hehe, still parked on another page waitin an waitin...


baldmance: strange you would bring homosexuality up so quick ..think about that much? Stupid ass.


scanner?
bald is beautiful my friend!

i would concider it a curse for God to grow my hair back

once you go bald
you never go back


DEATH TO ALL YOU NWO BASTARDS!
doctor No NWO | 07.22.07 - 3:44 pm | #

same for diabetes gone rampant, it is ultimate power to them to be able to deny insulin. same results.


Cartman sings about Jesus:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OZp9hqJt-LE


steve is rich 2.0. he got hired to replace rich that recently got fired from the Omnicom subsidiary....

More on omnicom

If anyone ever wondered if there were active efforts to rewrite history, just look at how active this Wikipedia user has been in just about every topic remotely associated with the various conpiracies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spe...ns/ Tom_harrison
Charlie | 07.09.07 - 2:30 am | #

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This guy is working overtime to rewrite history. He has the intellectual accumen of Ledeen and Kagan. He also shares their lack of a human soul. Could he be the same Thomas Harrison who is the CEO of this 66,000 person Advertising/Marketing company that grossed $12 Billion last year [which allowed him to personally take $4 million in total compensation last year]?
________________________________
http://www.forbes.com/finance/ mk...tGuideId=158359
CEO, Subsidiary/Chairman of the Board, Subsidiary at Omnicom Group, Incorporated New York, New York
SERVICES / ADVERTISING AGENCIES
Officer since May 1998 59 years old
Thomas L. Harrison was appointed Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of DAS in May 1998.
Cash Compensation (FY December 2006)
Salary $900,000
Bonus $0
Latest FY other short-term comp. $0
Latest FY other long-term comp. $3,186,238
Latest FY long-term incentive payout $0
Total $4,086,238
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He is the CEO of the type of company that is capable of rewriting history:
_________________________________
http://wrightreports.ecnext.com/ ...MPANY_681919106
Omnicom Group Incorporated - Company Profile SnapshotCompany Profile: Omnicom Group Incorporated
Ticker: OMC
Exchanges: NYSE
2006 Sales: 11,377,000,000
Major Industry: Miscellaneous
Sub Industry: Advertising Agencies
Country: UNITED STATES
Employees: 66000
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But could this company really be a COINTELPRO rewriting history and conducting nefarious intelligence activitied for the government??????
_________________________________
http://www.corpwatch.org/article...le.php? id=11836
According to the House report, companies owned by New York-based Omnicom have a virtual monopoly -- 89 percent -- of government PR contracts awarded between 2001 and 2004. The company, whose headquarters are on Madison Avenue, the heart of the advertising industry, reeled in $8.6 billion in revenue in 2003 from clients like Kodak, Dow Chemical and Heinz ketchup. Ketchum held $97 million, one-third of the total, followed by the Matthews Media Group ($52 million), Fleishman-Hillard ($41 million) and Porter Novelli ($33 million). While it is not known how many of these contracts involve practices such as the Williams deal, the government seems to take the scandal seriously. The list of agencies looking into PR contracts, in one way or the other, includes the Government Accountability Office, the Inspector General, the Federal Communications Commission, Congress and the Pentagon. Ketchum, which has earned numerous Silver Anvils (the industry’s highest honor) from the Public Relations Society of America as well as a 2002 “Agency of the Year” award from PR Week, the popular industry magazine, initially responded to the incident via a January 13 PR Week editorial by Ray Kotcher, chief executive officer of Ketchum. In the editorial, Kotcher put a positive spin on the scandal, calling it a “transformational event.” He referred to Williams' behavior as "an oversight" and implied that the scandal was politically motivated. “It is no coincidence that this activity occurred in Washington,” Kotcher wrote, “where political divisiveness is at an all-time high." He also suggested the rise of punditry had something to do with the whole affair:

“Williams' unusual role as both a pundit and information source – through his ad-production firm – would seem to blur the lines that once so clearly defined journalism and news organizations,” Kothcer wrote. “I'm not sure even the media itself can agree anymore on how to strictly define and distinguish journalists and news organizations.” As reporters hounded the firm, Ketchum released a later statement saying it had made a “lapse in judgment” -- but didn’t make the statement available on its website, as Jay Rosen, a journalism professor at New York University noted. In his blog, PressThink, Rosen wrote that Ketchum’s site “shows no awareness at all that it is the ‘live’ public face of a company in the news and under pressure from peers. This would be mildly comical in the case of a chemical company. It is more amusing, and ironic in the instance of a public relations agency fighting for its reputation …”

In another curious development, a site on http://www.ketchum.com that touts the virtues of influencing public opinion leaders – through a special tool Ketchum calls “Influencer Relationship Management” – is no longer working.
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steve
youre strange
its kinda sexy
scanner may be looking for a date
you can preach to his pie hole
all the warm fuzzy bow to kings verses etc...


Sees Things,

So now your saying that I'm threatening you?

Sounds like you've got a pretty bad case of paranoia, or maybe it's your own guilt for LYING in God's name that gives you that uneasy feeling.

Now as far as being a traitor to the world, I consider that a compliment, so thank you all for pointing out the my kingdom is not of this world.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 3:32 pm | #
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Another note, steve utilizes an illuminati/AEI technique of slowly dropping whispers as to one's sanity or paranoia to illicit emotions that [he hopes] will frustrate one from simply using logic against his baseless and rather disruptive posts.


Sydney holds key AIDS conference
July 23, 2007 - 0:30AM
Source: ABC
The world's largest conference on AIDS has begun in Sydney Australia.

More than 5,000 HIV experts and community leaders from around the world will review progress on tackling AIDS.

(So you tell me until now THESE EXPERTS DON"T KNOW AIDS IS A NWO BIOLOGICAL WEAPON? BS!!!
GIVE ME A BRAKE PLEASE )

The organisers are urging delegates to sign a declaration calling on governments to spend 10 per cent of all resources dedicated to AIDS on research.

(Oh THEY NEED MORE MONEY FOR RESEARCH & TO MAKE Placebo CURES & FUND New World Order Ops)

The co-chairman of the Sydney conference, Pedro Kahn, says it is possible to curb the pandemic if there is political will.
(NOT A FAT CHANCE IN HELL OF THAT EVER HAPPENING!)

"Science has given us the tool to treat and prevent HIV effectively," he said.

( BUT NEVER THE CURE BECAUSE THE NWO WILL NEVER DISCLOSE IT TO THE WORLD POPULATION!
THEY SIT ON THE CURE & WILL NOT LET IT BE KNOWN THAT AIDS IS A NWO MAN MADE BIOLOGICAL WEAPON CONSTRUCTED TO KILL OFF THE WORLDS POPULATION! )

"The fact that we have not yet translated this science into practice and that most people in the world who need access to prevention strategies and effective treatment do not have access is a shameful failure on the part of the global community."

(Bull Shit!!!YOU F***ING EVIL BASTARDS! So NOW ITS OUR FAULT YOU RELEASED AIDS!
YOU MEAN GLOBAL GOVERNMENT & THE NWO!
HOW ABOUT RELEASING THE CURE FOR AIDS YOU EVIL BASTARDS HAVE ALREADY SHELVED Just Like Free Energy! , WHAT? WITH ALL THAT MONEY & SCIENCE UP UNTIL NOW NOTHING BUT MORE BS? )

Delegates at the four-day meeting will also be presented with a new study showing that male circumcision can reduce the risk of HIV infection in young men by 60 per cent.
(YOU NWO SCIENCE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE SHOT UP WITH LD 50!)

Sorry to all those here that may have this New World Order Made Virus Call AIDS
May God Cure you & Help You to Recover

& for those Who dont know what LD 50 is, (LD 50) is Lethal Dose 50 , I believe some Prisoners on death row are executed with LD 50.
Made by the Same NWO people who made AIDS etc,

DEATH TO ALL YOU NWO BASTARDS!


Steve and Wolfy would have gotten a long quite nicely. What ever happened to Wolfy anyway?? Always condemning us here for supporting Alex Jones, yet his own website was riddled with Alex memorabilia....hehehehe....


Sees Things,

So now your saying that I'm threatening you?

Sounds like you've got a pretty bad case of paranoia, or maybe it's your own guilt for LYING in God's name that gives you that uneasy feeling.

Now as far as being a traitor to the world, I consider that a compliment, so thank you all for pointing out the my kingdom is not of this world.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 3:32 pm | #
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Please note that steve often breaks 3 commandments on this board

1st, 2nd, and 9th

he either portrays himself to be god or bears false witness as to what others post [kinda dumb, since we can just go back and look at it]


It is not the first time I have heard the allegations against Paul. So perhaps he is really a saint or really a devil. Seems that he is not to be found anywhere in between.....


Sees Things,

So now your saying that I'm threatening you?

Sounds like you've got a pretty bad case of paranoia, or maybe it's your own guilt for LYING in God's name that gives you that uneasy feeling.

Now as far as being a traitor to the world, I consider that a compliment, so thank you all for pointing out the my kingdom is not of this world.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 3:32 pm | #

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youre not a threat, too stupid and transparent to be a threat. lube up the toilet seat real good and push the flush lever so you can join youre family.


Actually, everything the pope says is supposed to be the word of god. - sane

Ain't that some stuff!

The infallible Pope. What a joke!


I think it would be more insightful to ask Sane if he agrees with the Thomas Jefferson quote earlier.... If so, why?? Is Paul really the great corrupter?
Anonymous | 07.22.07 - 3:19 pm | #

Actually, i lack jefferson's research or experience by about 99% so i am not sue.

i do know that many that followed paul's teachings were also put to death by the inquisition as they did not coincide with pope innocent 3rd.

so paul can't be that bad

but people should know that Paul lived over 300 years after jesus' crucifiction
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More:
Who Founded Christianity: Jesus or Paul? -- Beliefnet.comIf we are to locate both Jesus and Paul within the world of first-century Judaism, within the turbulent theological and political movements and expectations ...
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/ 1...ry_14300_1.html - 29k - Cached - Similar pages

Paul, Christianity, Jesus, Marcus Borg -- Beliefnet.comMany who admire or adore Jesus don't care for Paul. The most common charges against him are twofold. First, he seriously distorted the message of Jesus. ...
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/ 1...ry_14275_1.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages

Do Jesus and Paul Differ?We read the words of Jesus recorded in Acts 26:16. The account is a rehearsal of Paul's encounter with Jesus Christ on the Damascus Road. Jesus says to Paul ...
http://www.brfwitness.org/Articl...es/ jpdiffer.htm - 7k - Cached - Similar pages

Who Founded Christianity - Jesus or St. Paul?Upon closer scrutiny of the scriptures, however, we find that Jesus and Paul are not at all in contradiction with one another, and that most of what Paul ...
http://debate.org.uk/topics/theo...eo/jes- paul.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

Jesus and Paul: the word and the witnessAnd the one who made that happen more than anyone else was the apostle Paul. Even though he never knew Jesus, Paul became the main character in the Bible ...
http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/ sun...rticle_1741.asp - 65k - Cached - Similar pages

History, Archaeology and Jesus by Paul L. MaierExtra-biblical references to Christ and to people named in the New Testament.
http://www.issuesetc.org/resourc...ives/ maier3.htm - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

muslixPaul had NO interest in the WORDS or TEACHINGS of Jesus? Paul's gospel was an anti-Law accommodation to the corrupt governments? ...
http://www.christian-thinktank.c...com/ muslix.html - 6k - Cached - Similar pages

Jesus & Paul, by J. Gresham MachenReformation Ink presents Jesus and Paul by J. Gresham Machen.
http://homepage.mac.com/ shaneros...gmjesuspaul.htm - 81k - Cached - Similar pages

Paul vs. Jesus -- disagreement and contradictions between the ...Paul (originally Saul of Tarsus) was the brilliantly-successful missionary who transformed the fledgling sect of Christians into a movement that spread ...
http://www.wordwiz72.com/paul.html - 42k - Cached - Similar pages

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http://www.voiceofjesus.org/ paul...aulvsjesus.html - 56k - Cached - Similar pages

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Well, put David. I am sure he has this rehearsed so he can pivot on a dime when the circumstances should require a rearticulation of the facts..... That is how these guyz play the game. Make general statements that can have duplicate meanings, but never answer the actual question with a specific answer (so as not to get pigeon holed). In essence, by not answering the question directly, he shows an endorsement for the LIE of 9-11.


I'll tell you what..If God can grow hair on MY bald head, before i die, I'll believe in him
How 'bout that?


Sees Things,

So now your saying that I'm threatening you?

Sounds like you've got a pretty bad case of paranoia, or maybe it's your own guilt for LYING in God's name that gives you that uneasy feeling.

Now as far as being a traitor to the world, I consider that a compliment, so thank you all for pointing out the my kingdom is not of this world.


No Baldmanace... I'll pass on that.


lol, am STILL on that other page here..


cmon scanner
wouldnt ya like to get yur soul saved?


it may have been the cough syrup
sorry buddy
my bad


Let us look at the real axis of evil circa 1938....

Benito Mosselini and Adolf Hitler.....

And who gave them all the religious power?

The VATICAN

What happened to the evil countries??????

Vatican was granted sovereignty by Benito and never was called in to REPENT for its sins.

Actually, everything the pope says is supposed to be the word of god.

WWII killed what 20 million????

All sanctioned by the infallible pope, woweeeee

And now the nazi youth is the white pope. They do not even bother hiding it anymore, could anything get more obvious?


Newts right... If one thinks the 9-11 attacks was not an 'enemy' attack , then they are insane.
Who ever attacked us is the enemy of the US and its constitution . The question is though,, is that enemy of foreign or domestic origin, and if domestic,, is it from inside or outside of the halls of government. Newts right,, in that one statement. Orwellian double think


The Pope says the Catholic Church is as good as it gets....

Ya right!


More of Steve's BS here:

http://www.haloscan.com/ comments...eaderComments40
sane | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 2:59 pm |

"Anyone who believes steve was not an enemy attack is insane."
Sees Things | 07.22.07 - 3:02 pm |
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Thats right.
I am off to play now but I know that I leave this board in capable hands.
For the record, that post Jbrid put up on page 49:
jbrid1138 | 07.19.07 - 8:08 am -- was a knockout. I never saw that before but it lines up with recent info I received.
And Tim put up a video link that I cant find right now that was awesome.
The information exchange is awesome isn't it ? I love hearing/ learning what you guys know.
Later,
I appreciate you all ,


I think it would be more insightful to ask Sane if he agrees with the Thomas Jefferson quote earlier.... If so, why?? Is Paul really the great corrupter?


Religion is a joke.
Here's George Carlin talking about the 10 COMMANDMENTS:
http://www.georgecarlin.com/mp3/ ...ommandments.mp3


hey steve
read the decleration of independance
and then come here and spout off about taking it in the arss


Maybe I am not communicating correctly....

teachings of jesus....good

perversions of the teachings of jesus...bad

Does that help???

I think I am reiterating your point baldmenace, man fucks with god all the time and we should only listen and pray to god not man's interpretation of god.

how have i ever said anything different to this?


What have you been drinking er taking this morning baldy??

Sane is hardly the enemy of Christ.


But you and your ilk, including Sees Things are typical fraud artists, who use God's name to justify murder and torture and every other abomination under the sun.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 2:43 pm | #

Your a real piece of work Steve. False accuser of the brethren..... Hmmmm.


sane?
either do your homework or stay off the Jesus kick
men use religeon
that is not Gods way
God is Good all the time
everything good comes from God and God finishes all good works
there is no lyeing in Him
Jesus is The Christ!
period
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Sorry for stating what I feel is obvious....

where exactly did I disagree with any of this?


so the steve guy is a piece
sane has the goods onit
i still love you buddy
i just had to vent
you are 99.9% right on


Thanks Kells...

you know, I was looking back for old steve debunking and I gotta admit....

i post a whole lotta shit on this board!


sane?
either do your homework or stay off the Jesus kick
men use religeon
that is not Gods way
God is Good all the time
everything good comes from God and God finishes all good works
there is no lyeing in Him
Jesus is The Christ!
period
it is as american as apple pie
more so
Christ is the real deal
the arguements against Christ are fairy tale arguements
when we the people reorg the republic back to its original state
it will be inder the premise of all the principles of The Bible
right over wrong
good over evil
holiness over wickedness
cleanliness over corruption
salvation and heaven over death hell and the grave

im sorry i butted into the conversation
but gese people
are even the 911 truth movement not clever enough to see God reality and Christ Truth?

if you have woken out from under the 911 scam
then how can you still not understand the simple plan of salvation
God Saves!
Jesus is The Christ!


Hi Kells!!!!!!! I said hi the other day but it got lost in the traffic. :D
Tim | 07.22.07 - 1:37 pm |
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Sorry I missed that !
You are loved and am I'm glad you're back : )


I love you . I love how you kick disinfo butt.
kells | 07.22.07 - 2:58 pm | #

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ty kells

"Anyone who believes steve was not an enemy attack is insane."


More of Steve's BS here:

http://www.haloscan.com/ comments...eaderComments40


sane | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 2:53 pm
Sees Things | 07.22.07 - 2:53 pm |

I love you . I love how you kick disinfo butt.


awwww, steve don't like to play with me no more


But when you or your ilk mislead people about what the scriptures say and the messages that Jesus spoke, then it's time for me to EXPOSE YOU and let the board know how rotten your fruits really are.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 2:43 pm | #

who's god steve?

who's god will tell us who lives and who dies?

you're god?

you're interpretations of god?

your false prophecies of god?

you obviously with to inspire hate, anger, and division....

i doubt that you would argue that...

who else gets such pleasure from invoking such emotions in others?

jesus?

the anti-christ?

hmmmmmmmmmmm...


But when you or your ilk mislead people about what the scriptures say and the messages that Jesus spoke, then it's time for me to EXPOSE YOU and let the board know how rotten your fruits really are.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 2:43 pm |
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You make no sense to me. I cannot stand Pat Robertson , Rush etc.
I don't torture children or believe in people who abuse their power to do so.
You sound so convoluted to me


But you and your ilk, including Sees Things are typical fraud artists, who use God's name to justify murder and torture and every other abomination under the sun.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 2:43 pm | #

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again, you dont know me and wont get the chance to, and you can take youre accusations and self righteous BS and stuff it.
youre empty threats are amazing, with about as much logic as screen doored submarines.
YOU LIE!
I've never called this current government legitemate.
I've never murdered or molested CHILDREN
NEVER taken advantage of someone for their money or anything else (fraud artist!)
thou shalt not bear false witness..
YOU get to live with that one steve
I'm telling the truth, youre a twisted asshole.


Read the words...

"...absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers..."

He was talking about the perversions of the teachings of jesus, not the actual teachings.

How does the vatican get away with killing over 50 million during more than 600 years of rule?

How do they get away with killing over 700,000 just in croatia to set up the new catholic extension of the vatican?

How do they get away with raping every child they can get their hands on?

because they are perverting the teachings of jesus...

just like steve


"Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus."--Thomas Jefferson
sane | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 2:38 pm |
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Jefferson was brilliant but I am not buying that one sane.
The reason what Jesus taught was corrupted is because it worked to make people free. And that had to be stopped.


Are you concluding that Jesus wants millions of people to be tortured ? Or our Creator does ?
kells | 07.22.07 - 2:32 pm | #
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Sounds like your a typical Sean Hamnity, rush limbaugh parot that always turns things upside and backwards in a feeble attempt to trick people and hide who you really are.

Anyone who has read any of my posts knows how I feel about murder, torture, child molestation and LYING. They also know I'm well learned in the scriptures and have faith in God in Jesus holy living name.

They also know how I've constantly reminded people of what Jesus really said in that we should love one another and not murder them for oil and greed and power.

But you and your ilk, including Sees Things are typical fraud artists, who use God's name to justify murder and torture and every other abomination under the sun.

You think your clever and subtle, but your own words manifest where you're really coming from in that you justify the sick behavior of this corrupt regiem that you call a legitimate government.

In reality this nation is so corrupted it's not even funny. Yeah, people such as yourself, including Pat Robertson, John Haggie and Benny Hin HIDE behind the constitution and pretend to be good christians who support your government.

And this is fine and dandy with me, because if you want to justify murder, torture and child molestation there's nothing I can do, that's between you and God.

But when you or your ilk mislead people about what the scriptures say and the messages that Jesus spoke, then it's time for me to EXPOSE YOU and let the board know how rotten your fruits really are.


George Washington anyone??????

What did George say about what to do with the officers that fucked with other country's religions?

"As the contempt of the religion of a country by ridiculing any of its ceremonies, or affronting its ministers or votaries, has ever been deeply resented, you are to be particularly careful to restrain every officer from such imprudence and folly, and to punish every instance of it...."
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What did he say about the protection of our rights to any religion?

"...On the other hand, as far as lies in your power, you are to protect and support the free exercise of religion of the country, and the undisturbed enjoyment of the rights of conscience in religious matters, with your utmost influence and authority."

- George Washington, to Benedict Arnold, September 14, 1775 from The Washington papers edited by Saul Padover


Hey Steve, how about this one...

"Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus."--Thomas Jefferson


Hey Steve here is what the reborn founding fathers feel about your papal NWO plans to execute and enslave Americans:

"I have sworn upon the altar of my God eternal opposition to any form of tyranny over the mind of Man--that is why the clergy oppose me." -Inscription on the Jefferson Monument (the last line was omitted on the monument, in the interest of brevity).


Hey Steve,
Are you concluding that Jesus wants millions of people to be tortured ? Or our Creator does ?


still at that other page here btw sane..


Your worse enemy is within you, but God told you to forgive your enemies, so as long as you obey His command you should be OK, but if you worship pagan idols like the constitution which is null and void then you really don't love God, but are just a typical liar.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 1:03 pm |
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The beauty of the Constitution is that it establishes in writing, for an entire nation, that which we already individually know to be true in our souls. And it recognizes a Creator.
Coincidentally , ( or not) the Christian version of Creator gave us inalienable rights too. And they don't run contrary to the Constitution.
You should love the Constitution whether or not you are a Christian.


youre a traitor to humanity with that BS steve.
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Yes, I'm a traitor to your pediophile group, because I am against molesting and killing little children. But obviously you support it, so naturally your gonna defend it
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 2:15 pm | #
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It is the righteous Steve that has been blessed by jesus, moses, muhammed, and krishna. the all knowledgeable steve that wishes to go town to town with GE boxcars and round up or guillotine all american citizens under the papal's NWO orders.

Hey steve, do you also endorse the 605 years of torture brought about by pope innocent that slaughtered over 50 million bible loving and jesus loving christians in the name of papal superiority to god??????????

Which do you prefer.....

The judas chair

the iron maiden

the bloody mary

go ahead, take your pick, it ain't going to last 65 minutes before 300 million realize where all of this pain and suffering is coming from...yes or great and knowing steve...jesus has fortold our awakening and your false prophecies...
http://video.google.com/ videopla...538940742386630


Yes, I'm a traitor to your pediophile group, because I am against molesting and killing little children. But obviously you support it, so naturally your gonna defend it
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 2:15 pm | #

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you dont know me and you can stuff youre accusation where the sun dont shine.


youre a traitor to humanity with that BS steve.
Sees Things | 07.22.07 - 1:57 pm | #
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Yes, I'm a traitor to your pediophile group, because I am against molesting and killing little children. But obviously you support it, so naturally your gonna defend it


Your worse enemy is within you, but God told you to forgive your enemies, so as long as you obey His command you should be OK, but if you worship pagan idols like the constitution which is null and void then you really don't love God, but are just a typical liar.
Steve | Homepage | 07.22.07 - 1:03 pm | #

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dang, looks like the garbage truck lost some of its load! the constitution is a reminder of god given inalienable rights, not something null and void, and not a pagan idol either.

youre a traitor to humanity with that BS steve.


The problem with USA is that it doesn't have a united left. Like Venezuela, Chile, Spain, Argentina and other nations had prior to their old right wign governments, and that's why it was easier for them to overthrow their fascistic oppressive regimens, unlike USA which has a divided left and a divided anti-bush opposition.

a divided anti-Bush opposition is a killer, it's a major block that might bring us a solution. and to tell u the truth, i don't see a light at the end of the tunnel, but instead all i see is a big train that is gonna crash us all in the opposition together [what a kicker !!]


The only valid reason people support bush, cheney and this corrupt regime of a government is because it reinforces their murderous, pediophile tendencies. It makes them feel justified for wanting murder and molest little children and have power over people.

Another words it brings out the demons inside them and they like it. That's why it's so easy to spot a phony christian, wolf in sheeps clothing, "You'll know them by their fruits"


Hi Kells!!!!!!! I said hi the other day but it got lost in the traffic. :D


WHAT WE NEED IS SOCIAL CONSCIOUSNESS !!

social consciousness

Social consciousness is consciousness shared within a society. It can also be defined as social awareness; to be aware of the problems that different societies and communities face on a day-to-day basis; to be conscious of the difficulties and hardships of society.





Debate
There is debate as to exactly what the term means. Some people define social consciousness as a society's consciousness of itself.[1] Others argue against this definition, saying that society does not have a mind of its own, and therefore is not conscious: rather, the people that make up society are individually conscious.[2] Social consciousness is similar to collective consciousness.





Theory
Many studies have been done to examine the roots of social consciousness. It is believed to arise as a response to social injustice experienced by the individual or in the lives of others around the individual.[3] There are three levels of social consciousness: acquired, awakened, and expanded.





Acquired
A subject with an acquired social consciousness derives his or her viewpoint from the mainstream culture.[4] This individual avoids identifying himself or herself with a marginalized culture. This individual generally is either not aware of or does not acknowledge the way that differences among people affect the way that they are treated within society. The individual is not fully active in society. The person with an acquired social consciousness does not question mainstream viewpoints, and acts accordingly, without confrontation.


Awakened
A subject with an awakened social consciousness explores alternatives to the dominant cultural viewpoint.[5] This person might identify with a marginalized group, but the mainstream culture is central to his or her questioning or exploration. The subject recognizes and challenges social injustice. The person actively resists power and authority. The focus of discontent and action is often over the right to be visible, to have choice, or to be self-determining.


Expanded
A subject with an expanded social consciousness strongly identifies with their marginalized group.[6] This person views status as a continuously changing social construct, thus viewing responses as a lifelong process. This individual has an understanding of the complexity of the social hierarchy, and acts carefully after weighing both sides.


Implications
Social consciousness brings moral implications. Often, people with an awakened social consciousness become socially active.[7] A socially conscious person tends to be empathetic towards others regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, class, or sexual identity.


here it is folks. I have the answer, the solution, the reason of why most americans support Bush and Hillary and nobody else. Because most people at least in US have an "Acquired Social Consciousness".

Here is the definition of the sociological term 'Acquired Social Consciousness'.

Acquired Social consciousness = A subject with an acquired social consciousness derives his or her viewpoint from the mainstream culture.[4] This individual avoids identifying himself or herself with a marginalized culture. This individual generally is either not aware of or does not acknowledge the way that differences among people affect the way that they are treated within society. The individual is not fully active in society. The person with an acquired social consciousness does not question mainstream viewpoints, and acts accordingly, without confrontation.


A person can not watch this documentary and walk away without having questions about the real truth regarding 9/11 and the aftermath caused by that day.
http://prisonplanet.com/ articles...00707_b_con.htm


Newt is, in a way correct. 9/11, as he asserts, was an attack by an enemy of America. The enemy , however, are unlikely to be "disaffected foreigners, but an unknown number of senior figures within the US Government and military. The facts of the day, and motivation, all support that conclusion.


He is all the power I need.
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Your worse enemy is within you, but God told you to forgive your enemies, so as long as you obey His command you should be OK, but if you worship pagan idols like the constitution which is null and void then you really don't love God, but are just a typical liar.


Tim | 07.22.07 - 12:34 pm
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Hey Tim m is that you ? If yes , welcome back !!!!!
So nice to see you here.

If no, welcome aboard Tim.


DoD and Halliburton are trying to connect to this guys Vista without his permission.
http://digg.com/microsoft/ Window..._Spy_on_your_PC
http://www.abandonia.com/forum/i...opic=15364& st=0


but with a 5' heel on the
oops, make that a 5" (inch) heel about 6 inches up from base


I have no doubt that real men (and women) will step up to that plate when it's time.
kells | 07.22.07 - 12:20 pm | #

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Count on it. I have 2 special railroad equipment spike pullers, came from a scrap yard, bout the size of a "johnson bar", but with a 5' heel on the base and a big camel toe to hook the nails, basically a 5' prybar/nail puller.
Cool tool.........
I've been having dreams for years about being out and putting one to work.


Anybody got a few 100 federal bras in .300 winmag layin' around?? Got a keg of 4350 and a few 100 of match sierra 200gr. hpbt that need stuffin..........
Gonna start reloading this week. Haven't done much in years. The 3-4000 rounds I dug up aren't gonna last long (various calibers)
I only have about 700 in .300 for thae high powered rifle though.........
Does anyone make a target with shiny white helmet bulls eye? Now that would be a good seler....


sometime recently a fear was expressed that "terrorists" would be sabotaging bridges and train tracks.. if they roll the trains for FEMA CAMPS, I guarantee it wont be terrorists doing things like that.
Sees Things | 07.22.07 - 12:08 pm |
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If I'm on a train , I will be counting on that promise. And I have no doubt that real men (and women) will step up to that plate when it's time.


And I hope we really do have a well armed militia.
kells | 07.22.07 - 12:05 pm | #

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Oh, we do.
you think the ruski's had a tough time in Afghanistan?
wait till these fucks mess with us!!


This seems like a good news site, and has a good video from the Nederlands on the last Bilderberg meeting with anchors who really seem interested.
http://inteldaily.com/?c=120
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...om%2F%3Fc% 3D120


"The hottest layers of hell, are reserved for those who in times of moral crisis, maintain their nutrality."
-Dante


You know what I mean... : )


sometime recently a fear was expressed that "terrorists" would be sabotaging bridges and train tracks.. if they roll the trains for FEMA CAMPS, I guarantee it wont be terrorists doing things like that.


A bit of fire power doesn't hurt either. It's our right .
I love the Constitution. And I hope we really do hope we have a well armed militia.


A bit of fire power doesn't hurt either. It's our right .
I love the Constitution. And I hope we really do have a well armed militia.


Be of good courage when you face your enemy, so God can love you and honor you.
jake | 07.22.07 - 4:22 am |
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It is because God loves me that I will have courage when I face my enemy.
If I am afraid, He runs to my aid.
He is all the power I need.


I dont want the UN to even begin to claim righteousness in this regard, theyre NOT!!

Yeah but those shiny white helmets make really fine targets!!


"elite" scumball inbred genocidal freak devil worshipping NAZI globalist/banker/theives. only begins to describe how I feel about them. a good dose of old fashioned "rope and tree psychology" may do wonders.


this isnt happening in just the US either, the UK with blair proclaiming over 5 laws per day for years, it affects canada, new zealand and australia. then theres the EU garbage too. Alex Jones summed it up with the metaphor of an ocean liner, that countries and borders are needed to ensure freedom just like the compartments and hatches of a ship. if one section leaks it can be closed off to stay afloat, but if its all the same and one bug hull, it WILL sink.
the action to fix this would have to be global and all at once in ALL countries to lock these "elite" scumball inbred genocidal freak devil worshipping NAZI globalist/banker/theives. a swift and radical change that does mean the end of things as we know it.. it isnt great now with 0.1% of the population owning 97% of the wealth, and using their influence to plan everyone elses destruction. they are also the ones with their trigger finger on "the red button", the fact of it does define who the real terrorists are.


I sense a slippery slope if we look for rescue from the U.N.
kells | 07.22.07 - 11:24 am | #

yup, I dont want the UN to even begin to claim righteousness in this regard, theyre NOT!!
the UN just another NWO machine!


I'm not a fan of the global government NWO style. but if a global court were to step in where a government is abusive and out of control to what their own laws are supposed to be, and put the criminals on trial according to that country's own laws (not NWO laws!) .. fine by me.
Sees Things | 07.22.07 - 10:04 am |
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I sense a slippery slope if we look for rescue from the U.N.


Hi Sane, I read your peice that included W.Colby.
In 1974 someone that iknew had a short metting with this man.
He as gentle in his behavior, common in appearance, but behind those eyes was an intelligence that few have. I am not suprised Mr. George Bushy Sr. replaced this man quickly and without reserve.Under curious circumstances.


Chris Jones rocks.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...7_b_charged.htm

Expanding claim of executive authority, White House official tells paper staff can't be charged

John Byrne
Raw Story
Friday, July 20, 2007

A senior Bush Administration official unveiled a new strategy in Friday's Washington Post -- anonymously -- to combat Democrats in Congress who are clamoring to file contempt charges against officials who refuse to talk about the firings of nine US prosecutors.

In sum, this strategy amounts to, "once we say no, we can't be charged."

BS!! that is taking the fifth amendment, the right not to testify for fear of self incrimination and nothing more, then its up to the courts to present the evidence against them and proceed with real charges. this bart simpson defense is BS!!


Looks like some people really don't like the white race..

http://www.youtube.com/user/PaganSlayer


I'm not a fan of the global government NWO style. but if a global court were to step in where a government is abusive and out of control to what their own laws are supposed to be, and put the criminals on trial according to that country's own laws (not NWO laws!) .. fine by me.


ARREST THE TRAITORS!
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exactly, and by not doing it they are complicit. I dont have a problem with a world court stepping in and trying them ALL by our own law.
Sees Things | 07.22.07 - 9:55 am | #

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Agree with both of you, be it US Marshals, Govt. Elected officials, F.B.I., D.I.A, Military High Echelon,M.I., C.I.A, FAA, MIC & affiliates, any and all who betrayed this country and its people, murdered masses of innocents for profit and power. Tot the full extent of the law. TREASON


How can they not act? These people took oaths to perform their constitutional duties..............
ARREST THE TRAITORS!
jake | 07.22.07 - 9:41 am | #

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jury of 100 citizens, present the real case and see how far they get.


ARREST THE TRAITORS!
jake | 07.22.07 - 9:41 am | #

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exactly, and by not doing it they are complicit. I dont have a problem with a world court stepping in and trying them ALL by our own law.


US Marshalls should arrest Cheney and Bush for treason, high crimes and misdemeanors, and for the war crimes coming from the illegal and immoral and unchristian invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. The Marshalls are required by their oaths to the US Constitution to defend this Republic against "all enemies, foreign and domestic." Cheney and Bush with their "unitary executive" theory of "velvet fascism"are attempting a coup d'etat agaisnt the rightful authority of the US Congress and the American people.
How can they not act? These people took oaths to perform their constitutional duties..............
ARREST THE TRAITORS!


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07_b_geneva.htm
Bush orders CIA to comply with Geneva Conventions

another BAD JOKE. geneva convention also says deestroying a country's infrastructure and harming/killing innocent civilians is war crimes. also agreed is use of nuclear weapons is criminal. about everything used in the middle east from rifle to tank rounds is depleted uranium, nuclear waste! this administration approved this stuff, not the people. congress didnt declare this war but for inaction to stop it, are complicit. world courts want many of this administration for war crimes, we oughtta hand them over.


ron paul summed it up in the debate real quick too.
GHOULiani showed himself for the A-hole he really is when he was outraged at the concept of blowback. we HAVE been beating up the middle east a dozen years, I wouldnt blame them if they DID take a baseball bat to the bullies. and no, I dont think for a second this is the reality of 9-11.
insurance claims, put options, perfect freefall into the (3!) buildings footprints, by 19 guys with box cutters and 7-8 of em reported still alive? no way.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...707Giuliani.htm
Giuliani: U.S. should focus more on Pakistan

buncha baloney, we oughtta focus more on GHOULiani. see the video "guiliani time" how he used iron fisted nazi tactics against the poorer people of new york, complete with stormtroopers.
learn that GHOULiani's lawfirm is representing CINTRA building the NAFTA SUPERHIGHWAY to shovel monies to a foreign interest, and to make more Americans unemployed when its completed.
and this bastard is running for president?!! 9-11 was the only thing that pulled his ass out of a political FIRE, the majority of new york dont like him for how he ran things, then he uses 9-11 to be "America's mayor" ?! propaganda. brainwash.
it's bullshit.


Soldiers Speak Out:
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=3


Mornin'...More FKN News:
http://www.vydi.com/viewVideo.ph...2_07& ref=Mcdeek


P.S.
I can not find the words to express the respect I have for the many people involved in the truth movement, and my friends I have come to know on AJ's site. You have given me a ray of hope in this time of life i so desperatly needed it. Thanks to all.


Morality and religion. There are many religious leaders who support the war in Iraq. WHY?
There were may religous leaders who supported the war in Vietnam, WHY?
Power, money, fame, ego?
Innocents killed in Iraq, 800,000, in Vietnam 4 Million civilians killed.
Now thats hypocracy.
Human beings know the difference between right and wrong. ( its in our souls)
History has proven humans can be controlled.No big story this time, simply put have Americans been controled for the past 4 decades.?
I was a blind patriot at the age of 17 years, tutored and raised by masters of the rhetoric. I then went to war at 18, I am no longer a man who will give his soul to those in power.
Were the civilians killed in Nam, for God and country, democracy or money.
Are the civilians being killed in Iraq.
In the month of July US forces dropped 1,666 bombs on Iraq. How many children died, were maimed for life and crippled. And they say this is liberation, justice, freedom, democracy.
The gift of soul is precious not to be betrayed, if the clever one control your mind does it not folow they have seperated you from the essence of your soul. Maby it is time for Americans to question individualy who they truly are. To accept reality and truth and see through the curtain of deceptions, this requires soul.
Or wave the flag, the mightiest nation on earth, the greatest armada of nuclear weapons etc. and beat their chests with pride, ingnoring the screams of the innocent ones.
Ifin fact martial law is put into effect, be it by false flag tricks or not, I will resist them as I have for many years, they will kill me for I will not be imprisoned. I fear not for me but for the children, for this generation, for our land and country, and its future.It is spiritualy offensive to mold the minds of children as if they were but putty in their hands, that they may be seperated from their soul.


Newt: Anyone Who Believes 9/11 Was Not an Enemy Attack is Insane hey dumb assess we know newt is a fucking crook like the rest of the crooks in the white house we the people are going to throw them all out and send the criminals to jail the whole bush regime dictatorship is going to jail


Tried your best rifle lately??
Got plenty of ammo???


God Bless all Patriots.
Prepare to water the tree of Liberty.........


Damn, Tron sleeps? or is it a refrag?
God bless the Tron. I've had to add 30% more brain matter just to assimilate the latest info.........


I really am so confused.
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Hey, at least we are being honest........


Every night and every morn, some to misery are born;
And every morn and every night, some are born to sweet delight;
Some are born to sweet delight,
And some are born to endless night.


In the fiery furnace of affliction the true metal of faith is purified, burning away the dross of doubt and self-will, making us white hot.
It is in affliction and suffering that we come back to our Creator and through great tribulation shall we enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
The fall and destruction of Babylon is upon us; a storm rages all around, surely it will roar. Babylon, mighty Babylon, is fallen, is fallen, for in one moment is the greatness turned to utter destruction.
A vain hope betrays for the end of the world draws near.


Be of good courage when you face your enemy, so God can love you and honor you.


Always speak the truth even if it means your death.


I still need a clear large pic of Bin Laden laying in his Cave relaxing!!

Here's Bin Laden working at 9 Eleven (7-11):

http://www.ufovideo.net/NIGHTMARE.htm

Plus Good large pics at:

http://www.ufovideo.net/NIGHTMARE2.htm

DARTH VADERS EMPIRE AT:

http://www.ufovideo.net/EMPIRE2.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h? v=PQnACcW046Q

this link is about a drug that being develop for Radiation Protection
and as it looks that the drug was working but i have a feeling that the USA government whats this drug for themselves not for We The People!! click or copy and paste this link/url and keep in mind that it's a little funny that this is happening now when the risk is so high that our own government is going to attack us..cheers Alex Jones


CLICK THE URL REALLY..Potassium iodide may also be used to protect the thyroid from radioactive iodine in the event of an accident or attack at a nuclear power plant, or other nuclear attack, especially where a nuclear reactor is breached and the volatile radionuclides, which contain significant amount of 131I, are released into the environment. Radioiodine is a particularly dangerous radionuclide because the body concentrates it in the thyroid gland. Potassium iodide cannot protect against other causes of radiation poisoning, however, nor can it provide any degree of protection against a dirty bomb unless the bomb happens to contain a significant amount of radioactive iodine. In case of a nuclear emergency, iodine used for the cleaning of wounds should not be ingested.[7] It is a poison.


Do you all remember Alex telling us that the stores in Texas are scanning everyones ID that buys tobacco and alcohol?
Well they are doing it in Arkansas now.
They started scanning all ID's this week, at least in the area that I was in.
I wonder why they are doing this.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 9:37 pm | #

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They were doing this in Wisconsin in February when I was there. If your id is old and won't scan they log it in writing in a book........
I would geu they are doing this so later they can say something like: you have a drinking problem, you need psych testing....... and then of course psychotropic drugs.


I never said our enemies didnt do 911.

You are very much my enemy as i am yours

wink wink


Hawkins | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 11:18 pm | #

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Well done.
I am at over 2300 dvds out now, in one year.
I am now doing alot of Ron Paul stuff, "Meet Ron Paul" is what I'm giving out now.


so looks like Myspace is censoring the letter "I"
Lol, thats pretty lame. If they can do that, i wonder what they can do.......WAKE UP PEOPLE>


No one expects the Spanish Inquisition...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...h?v=nHGOl- jfUK0


>>MORE
http://vids.myspace.com/ index.cf...eoID=1597556236

We can see in this ABC News Special from 1979 what the CIA has been up to, and how they've been corrupted to consider dehumanizing American citizens and the rest of the World as "normal". To learn how to weaken and control people they conducted hundreds of "Nazi'esque" experiments, no surprise since the CIA was founded by hiring thousands of Nazi's after WWII. These included many at McGill University in Montreal, Canada, among other institutions, and "Operation Phoenix", which involved horrible acts of psychological and physical torture against the Vietnamese, and it's it's newborn Satanic baby today in the rather public sequels in Afghanistan and Iraq, and in Guantanamo and hundreds of other secret prisons. These are run by "people" who our tax-dollar pay for, and who could just as easily work "here". Our apathetic reaction or even twisted support of these holocaust-worthy crimes is the result of the mind control experiments that have destroyed our character, and we may be ready to be "apathetic about" or "support" concentration camps domestically, as have been announced for immigrants. This also how "good" intelligence agents on the "inside" and other government employees are trained to participate in clearly illegal and immoral acts, such as NSA spying and torture, and to share the elite's disdain for the average "stupid" person who's kept confused and clueless as to how the World really works. This video is from almost 30 years ago, and came to light when the Church Committee was investigating the CIA's hundreds of illegal activities during the Vietnam War. Just as they were gettting to some serious information, CIA Director William Colby was fired and replaced with George Bush Sr., who up until that point had no CIA experience - in public. In reality he got a cover CIA job coming out of Skull and Bones, and inexplicably to most quickly became Director to stop the Church Committee investigations by refusing the CIA's cooperation. They have introduced a variety of illegal drugs to not only engage in mind control experiments, but to secretly fund their covert activities - e.g. the "War on Drugs is FAKE!", as the late investigative journalism hero Gary Webb irrefutably uncovered. Our willingness to believe the hundreds of lies we're sold on a daily basis has weakened us intellectually and morally, and now we're being fed into the endless meat-grinder of history that is the endless "War on Terror". Let's wake up to HOW we've been put to sleep before we're trapped in this paranoid madness forever...

DOWNLOAD -

http://www.xenutv.com/cults/ mind...mindcontrol.htm

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http://lisatrust.freewinds.cx/Me...dia/ general.htm

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http://mysite.verizon.net/res7dh...s7dhyg/ id3.html

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http://www.thedossier.ukonline.c...k/ video_CIA.htm


"Thank you for shopping at 7-Eleven. Please shop again. Where convienence is #1."


ABC News 1979 Special: Mission Mind Control (29 mins)
http://vids.myspace.com/ index.cf...eoID=1597556236

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HOLY SHIT!!!


By 2013, just to get a hot dog at 7 eleven, people will have to scroll "yes" through 20,000 electronic pages of licensing and contract agreement before entering their hand into the biometric scanner, or placing their fore heads against the "blue dot", which will then automatically deduct 80 credits from their bank account.

Of course the Neo con traitors will "Unlimited Chips" thus bypassing the licensing, and near unlimited credits in their accounts.

Finally, an electronic voice from the computer will say. "Your hot dog purchase has been approved. Please select the appropriate letter and number corresponding to your selected hot dog, which you can then retrieve when the safety door opens. For additional condiments, please quickly scroll through our additional terms and licensing agreements on the help screen..........."


Holocaust ain't got shit on this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=Rx8PdvOELvY
Most people have some knowledge of the holocaust. The 6 years of torture and atrocities that the Jews suffered under Hitler and the Nazis during the Second World War. While in no way downplaying the terrible events of the holocaust, such a massacre does not compare to the severity to the torture and murder that took place under Papal authority during the 605 years of the Inquisition. From the beginning of the Papacy, until the present time, it is estimated by credible historians that more than 50,000,000, men and women have been slaughtered for the crime of heresy charged against them by Papal Rome. This Video contains actual photographs of some of the instruments of torture that were used. Since we consider this Video on the Inquisition one of the more important message that we have given, please make it known to others, and if possible post the link on your own website. Live broadcasting - http://www.warneveryone.com


Hi old man. I just think this whole "Jesus was a myth" thing is being taken way to far, and is not proven. These people fail also to debunk the life works of "Ron Wyatt", and prophecy itself.
And most of the debunkers have not read the Bible over 10 times personally like myself. They just point out fake preachers and then condemn the entire Christian faith.
They do have interesting points that need to be addressed, but I am far from giving up my faith to some guys who just wanna play "intellectual" to get a much needed ego boost.


Example.
Horus, could very well have been a creation of the astrologers of Egypt, who were very adept at magick as well by the way. Read in Exodus when Moses first asks the Pharaoh to let the people go. And then Pharaoh calls for his astrologers and court magi.
By using astrology through the aid of demonic forces, the magi are influenced to understand "Universal laws" in astrology, and thus influenced to create actual false religious characters like "Horus" and a pantheon of Gods based upon astrology.
These false religions, like those in Egypt created by the magi and elites of the time, were used to control the masses. And could justify their control, because much in astrology is accurate.
But it is important to understand that God created astrology, and only he has total mastery of it.

Would you allow a 3 year old child to tamper with nitro glycerin?
And so God does not consider us competent to interpet astrology.

High sciences, numerology, and astrology have been used for eons to control mankind. Only God and true spiritual masters can use these things and interpet them correctly.

Just because the magi, who were selfish and greedy and loved power, used astrology and such to plaugerise Christ, does not mean that Christ is not the genuine article. There were over 500 prophecies directly concerning the coming of Christ in the Old Testament. Jewish history is pretty solid. The magi knew this, and twisted it to their advantage.


"Meet The Press"
United States Senator Joseph Lieberman

"Almost every day we see news reports of al Qaeda bombing attacks in Iraq. So why do Democrats still keep calling it a "civil war"? Al Qaeda terrorists are not Iraqis fighting a "civil war." It has been reported that Iran is responsible for 80% of American deaths in Iraq, either by Iranian fighters, or by Iranian weapons and bombs provided to insurgents and al Qaeda. Neither the American government nor the press is exploiting Irans responsibility for these deadly attacks, which are Iranian acts of war against America and must be considered as such. This alone should provide justification for an attack on Iran."
"We must send a message to the rest of the Islamic world that Mecca and Medina are next if the terrorism doesn't stop now. The alternative is a long and dirty war that will last for decades. Is that what we want to live with when we have the ability to avoid it? Utter devastation worked with Japan and Germany. It will work with Islam. All we need is the courage and the will to stand up and again be the strong country that we once were. We didn't get to where we are today by bowing to the will of weak foreign powers and worrying about what they think of us.
The only thing Islam respects is brutality and overwhelming force. It's how they've lived for over a thousand years. That is why Saddam Hussein and other Islamic dictators were successful for so many years.


Just like they morphed Osama Bin Ladin into Saddam Hussein in 2002, neocons morph Al Qaeda into Iran today, with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the new Saddam Hussein who we must be trained to fear. And it is working. They are making significant steady progress in alarming the general public about Iran. They act like slippery weasels and say "True, Iraq was never a grave threat, but Iran actually was, and now the Iranian threat is getting greater all the time. It doesn't matter if you think attacking Iraq was a mistake, because Iran is the real deal, and now we finally must face up to something we should have dealt with a long time ago"
Republican Neocons, and some of their hawkish Democratic allies, not only believe that war with Iran is inevitable AND in the long term interests of the United States, they believe that the sooner we get it on the better.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...6/15/133035/ 232


I need a large clear pic of Osama Bin Laden laying down in his Cave relaxing! Anyone?? Post a link to a pic on my site if you know where one is or can upload one to "imageshack" and post the link here or on my site, I'll check back... I can't get Alex Jones show here in Lubbock Texas, I listen on-line, they may ban it here like they ban the Dixie Chicks even tho they're from here! The movie "Sicko" never played here either, no surprise, I plastered "InfoWars.Com" and "9/11 Was An Inside Job" stickers all over town and handed out hundreds of copies of "Loose Change" at Texas Tech (pop. 30,000+ students) but nothin' in the news about it, no surprise either.... I was surprised the local Nazi Police didn't arrest me for possessing non-brain-washing materials! lol They've tased several black and hispanic people here, some on video, one guy just stepped out of his car and they let him have it several times then joked about it afterwards... one guy died from hitting his head when he hit the floor of his own home when they tased him. Both those cases were minor, one a minor traffic stop and the other a minor domestic call... Police State USA


Gabriel Alan King,
Hello Gabe,
Whay's up?
Hope you have had a good day.


What I am trying to say, is that God is the "chicken".
And Jesus is the real "egg".
And any omlette the New World Order is cooking up for us is not real egg, but just some lab bioengineered soy product with a 666 stamp on the packaging.


Some people are drawing forward assumptions rather speedily.
They say that Christ wasn't real because of numerology, Horus similarities, and Astrology and occult tampering.
However, did it ever occur to you that you may be assuming that the chicken laid the egg?

Maybe, because God CREATED the heavens and the earth, and God himself has always existed, that there are certain patterns and orders in creation that we cannot yet fully understand. The occultists and astrologers understand some of these patterns, and capitalize upon them.

What I am suggesting, is that Jesus was real, and his life was a pivitol point in history, and a sort of fulcrum and anomaly, a stumbling block. He was special, and thus his life reflected the deepest and most important "keys" to the universes mysteries. If we presume to discount him over some whimsical evidence, we are discrediting the overall search for the truth.

Evil does not endorse good behavior. The Bible endorses good behavior. Therefore the Bible is a moral guidepost, whether Christ be real or not. I still believe in Jesus, and I think the devil is trying harder than ever right now to conceal his own identity, and the truth of Christ.

Only when the heart is right, will the mind see clearly.
And yet we always confuse with the mind, what the heart already understood.
'


If you're looking for Bush humor -- Go here:
http://www.spikedhumor.com/ artic...nniversary.html


Get well soon Bush, the devil is waiting for you. Have all the fun you want.............


Funny and Said 9/11 Pages - New Bin Laden Tape!!!!
http://www.ufovideo.net/NIGHTMARE.htm
http://www.ufovideo.net/EMPIRE.htm


Extra ... Extra ... Read All About It!!!

A fine article written in May 2002 -- Just as true five (5) years ago as it it this evening:
http://www.rense.com/general25/k...25/ knewknow.htm


Why Indeed Did The WTC Buildings Completely Collapse? // by Professor Steven E. Jones
http:// www.journalof911studies.c...rade_Center.pdf

Makes for good night''s reading --


Newt responded: Anyone Who Believes 9/11 Was Not an Enemy Attack is Insane . . .
http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../ 210707Newt.htm
***extract***
At last count there are: 100+ Senior Military, Law Enforcement and Government Officials, 160+ Architects and Engineers, 140+ Professors, 110+ Survivors and Family Members, 80+ Entertainment and Media Professionals, who have gone on the record questioning 9/11 or believing that 9/11 was an inside job.
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You see, the point is, the man didn't lie in his comment, he just used the truth to make it sound as if you believed it -- well -- there is another more' sane' version when he speaks of an enemy // His and others /;/ He just forgets to tell you that it is POSSIBLE for an enemy to be domestic.

That military oath we all took (those of us prior and current) -- against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Tjhey seem to want us to forget that last part. Understandable. But. then, that makews them the enemy too, doesn't it.

Here's a reference as regards those that have been coming around to the possibility of 9/11 being an insdie job: Makes you have to stop and question who the truly insane is (it's not those in this link:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/ 07061...sorsquestion911


We are nothing to them bu t cannon fodder, taxes and pissants.
chris jones | 07.21.07 - 6:57 pm | #
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One of the my best friends in my whole life has not lived in a building since he came home from Nam.
He is an fantastic person too.
He will not use a phone at all.
I joined the navy in 72, but they fucked my friend up for life. And all for a lie.
I truly hope God is vengeful.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 7:03 pm | #

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I have a buddy who lives in South America, he was in Vietanam IN 69-70, he has never stepped on American soil since he left Vietnam. A nicer man you couldn't meet...STATISTICS
58,209 American soldiers died during the Vietnam War, since the troops returned home in 1973 an additional 200,000 American Vietnam veterans become subsequent casualties of the Vietnam War when they committed suicide, and today half of the homeless people around the United States are Vietnam War veterans.
Our souls may remain fortified against evil, the mind is not quite as adapt, wars are the gardens of the Elites.
What kind of human beings can live with the destruction, killing, maiming, lying, and deceptions, all for power and control.
I can understand parasites, it is their nature and surivial, but not human beings sucking the blood ,freedom,liberties,basic welfare, and lives from their own citizens and those of other nations.
Enough said.


And no, "GOD" is not a construct of "Mind-Control". GOD is GOD. And man is man.
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Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 9:52 pm | #
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And right you are sir, The religion part of it with the rituals,symbols, robes,writtings and shinny things its all pure mind control though, im sure there is some truth in the bible it has just been perverted by the scum that wrote it, even though Jesus apear to be a masonic inside joke, i actualy belive he was real, we are missing a huge part of his life storry and are only being told perverted lies..


"Illumined" is just another word to describe the worship of self in vain.

It is all vanity.....The elite and their nonsense. They will be utterly deposed by the babes and fools of our world... Those they like to think and believe they "rule" over.....


You see. The confusion of our day has its origins in our misconception of reality. We tend to want credit for everything including the natural. Yet we forget that man knows NOT from where it comes and to where it goes.....

That just further demonstrates our "sin" nature, wanting to believe we are in control, giving mere mortal man the utmost credit and perpetuating the confiscation of our inner knowledge of God. What is scripted, is not man's doing ultimately. Permissive will is no different than active will when your are the cause of everything that has come into being......I AM THAT I AM.


after seeing riddles in stone and all the demonic/egyptian/babylonian symbols everywhere, and stuff by old jordan maxwell, obvious this kind of evil has been with us forever, it rises, falls, hides, rises again..


Expanding claim of executive authority, White House official tells paper staff can't be charged
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These people are trying to cover their asses.
If I had done what this Cabal had done, I would try to cover me ass too.
I just pray it doesn't work.
But the powers that be will not prosecute anyone once the new pawns are in office.
It will be just as the JFK case was handled.
It will swept under the rug and drowned in more turmoil.


Basically, the Tofflers are a couple of Nazi's. Go read the book for yourself. It is called "Creating a New Civilization, The Politics of the Third Wave" by Alvin and Heidi Toffler and foreworded by Newt Gingrich (our illustrious and illumined Washington D.C. insider)........


Where are these people coming up with the story that not all humans are from the DNA?
Alex mentioned, last week I believe, something about this.
And I was reading a story on Web that scientist are looking at this to see if it is a fact.
How can that be?
Is David Icke right?
That is strange.


Expanding claim of executive authority, White House official tells paper staff can't be charged

John Byrne
Raw Story
Friday, July 20, 2007

A senior Bush Administration official unveiled a new strategy in Friday's Washington Post -- anonymously -- to combat Democrats in Congress who are clamoring to file contempt charges against officials who refuse to talk about the firings of nine US prosecutors.

In sum, this strategy amounts to, "once we say no, we can't be charged."

Ironically, President Bush's new legal argument hinges on whether one of his own US prosecutors can file charges against his staff.

According to the Post, "Administration officials argued yesterday that Congress has no power to force a U.S. attorney to pursue contempt charges in cases, such as the prosecutor firings, in which the president has declared that testimony or documents are protected from release by executive privilege. Officials pointed to a Justice Department legal opinion during the Reagan administration, which made the same argument in a case that was never resolved by the courts."


"A U.S. attorney would not be permitted to bring contempt charges or convene a grand jury in an executive privilege case," a senior official told the Post, which granted the official anonymity because 'he was not authorized to discuss the issue publicly.' "And a U.S. attorney wouldn't be permitted to argue against the reasoned legal opinion that the Justice Department provided. No one should expect that to happen."

Under law, a contempt citation by the House or Senate must be submitted to Washington, D.C. US attorney, who then brings the charge to a grand jury.

"It has long been understood that, in circumstances like these, the constitutional prerogatives of the president would make it a futile and purely political act for Congress to refer contempt citations to U.S. attorneys," the anonymous Bush official added.

George Mason University professor of public policy Mark J. Rozell called the administration's stance "astonishing" in the article.

"That's a breathtakingly broad view of the president's role in this system of separation of powers," Rozell told the reporter. "What this statement is saying is the president's claim of executive privilege trumps all."

This president needs to be arres!ted


And no, "GOD" is not a construct of "Mind-Control". GOD is GOD. And man is man.

And we are about to find that out. Illuminati are but pawns in the handiwork of God's creation. And they don't even realize it. Taking for themselves to be God. Their writings, their innerworkings, their secret dealings, their wickedness in high places, all allowed, even willed into creation by the Almighty who is going to restore the cornerstone that the builders rejected......


Anyway, the "First Wave" is considered the agricultural revolution....

The "Second" - the industrial revolution....

And the "Third Wave" is considered the (information) revolution.....

But I say, nothing new under the sun. Evil and elitism abound everywhere. And the "Third Wave" is just an excuse to consolidate power and ultimately continue the class struggle. Putting themselves above one another and even God if given the chance.


That man is a hard core Zionist that wants to connect Israel with Zionism.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 8:51 pm | #

That man is such a little turd in the grand chessboard.

c'mon, would you say that all of our problems are due to the KKK, when Pike started the freicking thing?

of course not.

relating all of the world's problems...

musharreff, putin, ahminijaberwocky, nk, china, uk, aussie skin heads, saudi royals, nazi pope, etc. to christian and jewish zionism is a bit far fetched and undoubtedly will receive a backlash from people who are looking to end elitest slavery, deception, mass murder no matter who they associate themselves with.

unfortunately concerning mind control, we are raised from cradle to grave by the great illuminati walt disney's constant polarization of one piece of evil that once killed will allow peace forever and ever.

i wish it were that simple


That is the ultimate goal.
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yup, religious beleifs have little to do with it, nor does skin color, they use those things to divide and conquer US the people.. stir it all up to make us help do their job for them. their "religion" is anti-religion and devil worship, human sacrifice, exploitation and misery, the more they can cause the more important they are to each other.


They started scanning all ID's this week, at least in the area that I was in.
I wonder why they are doing this.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 9:37 pm | #

It is called conditioning. And like it or not. It is prophecied...or scripted....whichever you prefer. Still seems to be the same result.


More from the Tofflers (with Newt's no doubt "Illumined" endorsement)....


pg. 105, "Yet what lies ahead as the super struggle intensifies is not a replay of any previous revolutionary drama-no centrally directed overthrow of the ruling elites by some vanguard party with the masses in tow; no spontaeous, supposedly cathartic, mass uprising triggered by terrorism. The creation of new political structures for a Third Wave civiliation will not come in a single climatic upheaval but as a consequence of a thousand innovations and collisions at many levels in many places over a period of decades." (not decades by just a few more years - my embellishment)

"This does not rule out the possibility of violence along the way to tomorrow. The transition from First Wave to Second Wave civilization was one long, blood-drenched drama of wars, revolts, famines, forced migrations, coups d'etat and calamities. Today the stakes are much higher, the time shorter, the acceleration faster, the dangers even greater."

"Much depends on the flexibility and intelligence of today's elites, sub-elites and super-elites. If these groups prove to be as shortsighted, unimaginative and frightened as most ruling groups in the past, they will rigidly resist the Third Wave and thereby escalate the risks of violence and their own destruction." (In otherwords, drop trow and just take it! And who are these super-elites? That must make the Tofflers "super-duper" elites of the most enlightened realm of illumined and ascended masters the human race will likely never know.)


I've said it before and will say it again, here pre-WW2 we had prescott bush, IBM, and scads of others funding hitler. later on the wealthier were about extorted to be able to leave germany, the only allowed destination is now, after WW2, known as isreal.. was a nazi playground, still IS. then we have operation paperclip to bring slave killing rocket scientists to the US to form NASA, and "social engineers" -the propagandists and brainwashers right on up to total mind control.
call them what they are, these globalist/elite/banker/theives biggest acheivement was the NAZI's, that is what they are, NAZI's. they want total control fascism and everyone living in fear while they get richer, and kill us all off so the world belongs to them.
Sees Things | 07.21.07 - 9:35 pm | #
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And that Sir, is pretty much the bottom line.
They want to make sure their genes survive to rebuild the human race the way the think is right.
That is the ultimate goal.


Do you all remember Alex telling us that the stores in Texas are scanning everyones ID that buys tobacco and alcohol?
Well they are doing it in Arkansas now.
They started scanning all ID's this week, at least in the area that I was in.
I wonder why they are doing this.


I've said it before and will say it again, here pre-WW2 we had prescott bush, IBM, and scads of others funding hitler. later on the wealthier were about extorted to be able to leave germany, the only allowed destination is now, after WW2, known as isreal.. was a nazi playground, still IS. then we have operation paperclip to bring slave killing rocket scientists to the US to form NASA, and "social engineers" -the propagandists and brainwashers right on up to total mind control.
call them what they are, these globalist/elite/banker/theives biggest acheivement was the NAZI's, that is what they are, NAZI's. they want total control fascism and everyone living in fear while they get richer, and kill us all off so the world belongs to them.


I see you are trying to make that distinction oldman and most of our argument arises from lack of explanation and further elaboration (which is par for the course).
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Thank You.


More from the Tofflers (with Newt's no doubt "Illumined" endorsement)....


pg. 106, "The sooner we begin to design alternative political institutions based on the three principles described above-minority power, semidirect democracy and decision division- the better our chances for a peaceful transition. It is the attempt to block such changes, not the changes themselves, that raises the level of risk. It is the blind attempt to defend obsolescence that creates the danger of bloodshed."


I see you are trying to make that distinction oldman and most of our argument arises from lack of explanation and further elaboration (which is par for the course).


Thus, oldman, we are careful with our words and make no attempt to lump categorically all the deceived into the same agenda. Their are those who do the deceiving, and those who are deceived. We ought not to set our cross-hairs mistakenly (whether by intent or reckless inference) on those who are a bit more innocent than the top of the pyramid.


One day, the truth will prevail.
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I hope and pray you are right.
But I must be honest, I am really worried about what I see happening in the world today.
It is very frightening.


We have a long way to go before that happens.
I hope We have enough time.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 9:15 pm | #
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Me to brother i realy do for our kids , well its 3 in the morning here i bether get some sleep now, i culdnt sleep because of this thread but if only one here understans me thats enough for me so for the last time good night fellas


attacking "Zionism" and bashing "Jews" simultaneously.
Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 9:13 pm | #
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And i wish that would truly change.
The Jewish People are good people .
Most Jewish people want peace and understanding from everyone.
I have some really good friends that are Jewish. They actually explained how it all works to me.
And yes, I do love them, they are my friends.


Someone actually has eyes to see and ears to hear.
What a truly educated and refreshing post.
I wish every person on this planet could read this post and fully understand it.
We have a long way to go before that happens.
I hope We have enough time.
oldman

Actually oldman, what we are trying to do here is save some lives. Many of us fully understand the Masonic mind-control. Many have yet to understand. The religions are but a part of their plan to enslave us. And unfortunately, we must use the mind-control of religions to portray the mind-control. It is a tedious game of deconstruction and ironic to say the least. One day, the truth will prevail.


I hope We have enough time.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 9:15 pm | #

lol, I followed it perfectly.. go lars!


More from the Tofflers (with Newt's no doubt "Illumined" endorsement)....

p. 106, "Elites, no matter how enlightened, cannot by themselves make a new civilization. The energies of whole peoples will be required. But those energies are available, waiting to be tapped. Indeed if we, particularly in the high-technology countries, took as our explicit goal for the next generation the creation of wholly new institutions and constitiutions, we could release something far more powerful even than energy: the collective imagination."


christians, jews muslims its all a fraud anyway, even here you ppl. obey your mind contol. "oh i didnt say jew". like it was some dirty word, jew jew jew. you`re all mad and who gave jews the right to genocide the palestinian people hitler? dear americans pull your nose out of israels but they can take care of them selfs they got nukes you know, i used to love evrything about usa all my life, the lifestylle the cars the movies but now.. heh i can still love u if u put boy george and dictator cheney and adolf guliany back in their coffins where they belong. 70% of the people are against the "war of terror" what is he still doing in the white house???!!! the effing morron i trully hate him and tricky dicky and adolf guliany Ron poul is your only chance sadly the devil worshipers wont let him anywhere near the white house and he will prob have an acident or comit suicide oh well maybe then america will wake up but i doubt it afterall you got fox news to tell you what reality is.. talking about jesus isynt it funny how he died 33 years old? 33 is a masonic number. 33 degres is also the highest point the sun reaches on the sky, 12 disiples 12 months, born by a virgin just like osiris and all the other babylonian gods, its all a masonic lie good night sirs and poor jew loving lady
Lars | 07.21.07 - 9:06 pm | #
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Someone actually has eyes to see and ears to hear.
What a truly educated and refreshing post.
I wish every person on this planet could read this post and fully understand it.
We have a long way to go before that happens.
I hope We have enough time.


Why is it so confusing to the Christians of this country to separate those two factions of people.
- oldman

Because most spend all their time attacking "Zionism" and bashing "Jews" simultaneously. Thus the apprehensive nature of many here and elsewhere when you speak of such things. The distinction is rarely made and most certainly falls short of any real clarity.....


NEWT... ( Gingrich claiming those who believe that those who believe 9/11 wasn't an enemy attack: )

from Wikipedia:
the characteristics of a Newt: ummmm.. not nice...
how to handle them: Handling newts

Theoretically it is safe to handle newts provided one thoroughly washes one's hands as newts secrete a toxin that is harmful if swallowed or if it comes into contact with mucous membranes.[citation needed] Like reptiles and other amphibians, newts may carry the salmonella bacteria, and proper hand-washing and sanitation practices should be employed in handling newts.[2][3]

Some people just get a name more appropriate then they could have ever dreamed of.....


O.K.

The names are Alvin and Heidi Toffler. And one of the books is titled "Creating a New Civilization, The Politics of the Third Wave".

Newt Gingrich wrote the forward to this book.\

On page 92 qoute, "The first, heretical principle of Third Wave government" (where we are headed) "is that of minority power. It holds that majority rule, the key legitimating principle of the Second Wave era" (the one we are leaving) "is increasingly obsolete. It is not majorities but minorities that count." (hence the elitism we are witnessing running rampant) "And our political systems must increasingly reflect that fact."


christians, jews muslims its all a fraud anyway, even here you ppl. obey your mind contol. "oh i didnt say jew". like it was some dirty word, jew jew jew. you`re all mad and who gave jews the right to genocide the palestinian people hitler? dear americans pull your nose out of israels but they can take care of them selfs they got nukes you know, i used to love evrything about usa all my life, the lifestylle the cars the movies but now.. heh i can still love u if u put boy george and dictator cheney and adolf guliany back in their coffins where they belong. 70% of the people are against the "war of terror" what is he still doing in the white house???!!! the effing morron i trully hate him and tricky dicky and adolf guliany Ron poul is your only chance sadly the devil worshipers wont let him anywhere near the white house and he will prob have an acident or comit suicide oh well maybe then america will wake up but i doubt it afterall you got fox news to tell you what reality is.. talking about jesus isynt it funny how he died 33 years old? 33 is a masonic number. 33 degres is also the highest point the sun reaches on the sky, 12 disiples 12 months, born by a virgin just like osiris and all the other babylonian gods, its all a masonic lie good night sirs and poor jew loving lady


An enemy attack? yes , true, but not the enemy they want us to believe according to the official version.

Who are the insane ones???


How is Bush going to take peoples property if they protest the war in Iraq?
Are they going to jail us and freeze our assets?
Is it everyone or violent protesters?
Well I'm buying more Silver and hiding it.


Newt is such a globalist whore!
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Yes he is and has been for a long time.
As is Lieberman and McCane.
Gun grabbing traitors.


if you think that zionists are illuminati [which seems to be the case today for the upper eschelon], why not include all the elitest pigs who are zionist or other?
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 8:37 pm | #
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I do sane.
They are all in the club.
Don't you see that these people will always try to connect all Jewish People with the small fraction that are Zionist?
And not Zionist are Jewish.
sane,
Why is it so confusing to the Christians of this country to separate those two factions of people.
Why when someone says Zionist does the image of a jewish person come to their mind?
Because that is what they have had engraved in their mind. It was done on purpose.
Who is that big really fat televangelist that is always spouting the right of Israel to protect themselves?
That man is a hard core Zionist that wants to connect Israel with Zionism.
If you say anything negative about the Zionist party, you are an anti-Semite.
Nothing can be farther from the truth.
Zionism is a political belief. That has nothing to do with the Jewish People of Israel.
Damn, why is that so hard to understand with Americans?
Because they have been taught from childhood that if you are against Zionism, you are against Israel.
gees!


Money talks. And bullshit walks. Then it pins on a badge or finds a podium to pound.


Newt is such a globalist whore! Can't even speak the truth about his intentions nor those of the Neo-Cons and their continual duping of good and decent patriotic Americans.

Tsk. Tsk.

What a bunch of extortionists.....


The U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security discusses(see lies about) port and supply-chain security and public infrastructure protection.


Rep. Jane Harman (36th district, California), chair of the Homeland Security Subcommittee on Intelligence, Information Sharing & Terrorism Risk Assessment, will attend the event, which is hosted by the USC Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events.

Established in 2003, CREATE is the first university center of excellence funded by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. The center is focused on developing advanced models and tools for the evaluation of the risks, costs and consequences of terrorism against the United States.

If you would like to attend this free event, please RSVP and find details at www.usc.edu/esvp. Use the event code "CREATE".
February 15, 2005, Judge Michael Chertoff was sworn in as the second secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. Chertoff formerly served as U.S Circuit Judge for the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals.

Secretary Chertoff was previously confirmed by the Senate to serve in the Bush administration as assistant attorney general for the Criminal Division at the Department of Justice. As assistant attorney general, he helped trace the September 11 terrorist attacks to the Al Qaeda network and worked to increase information sharing within the FBI and with state and local officials.

Before joining the Bush administration, Chertoff was a partner in the law firm of Latham & Watkins. From 1994 to 1996, he served as special counsel for the U.S. Senate Whitewater Committee.

Prior to that, Chertoff spent more than a decade as a federal prosecutor, including service as U.S. attorney for the District of New Jersey, first assistant U.S. attorney for the District of New Jersey and assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. As United States attorney, Chertoff investigated and prosecuted several significant cases of political corruption, organized crime and corporate fraud.

Chertoff graduated magna cum laude from Harvard College in 1975 and magna cum laude from Harvard Law School in 1978. From 1979 to 1980, he served as a clerk to Supreme Court Justice William Brennan Jr.

All those credentials don't mean shit when you are a treasonous bastard to start with!


Newt Gingrich is one of the biggest traitors to American soveriegnty most will never have the priviledge of recognizing as such. I used to listen to him endorse Alvin and Heidi Teoffler (spelling?) and the Future Shock and Third Wave writings back in the 90's which have shaped and formed a good portion of our military and political agendas.

He should be strung up and hung out to dry for playing dumb. He knows exactly what he is doing, and is one of the biggest insiders in Washington D.C. (District of Criminals).

http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../ 210707Newt.htm


I know it is hard to see reality for some people.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 8:33 pm | #
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c'mon old man, we all live in our own reality.

i think again the word zionist has been so perverted by so many and has been used to misleed millions of jews just looking for answers that the controversy will always come up.

if you think that zionists are illuminati [which seems to be the case today for the upper eschelon], why not include all the elitest pigs who are zionist or other?


Well, now. .... They wouldn't be "real" Christians or "real" Jews now would they??? More exploiting by Illuminati mind-control.
Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 8:24 pm | #
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Can you understand what you are reading?
Where did I use the word "Jew"?
I didn't.
So understand the post, if you can, before you respond to one of my post.
Please.
I know it is hard to see reality for some people.


Sees Things | 07.21.07 - 8:28 pm | #

meet you on 10

did you see live free or die hard?


Delivery Agent | News | Press Release ArticleDELIVERY AGENT RAISES $18.5 MILLION BRINGING TOTAL FUNDING TO $35 MILLION ... traditional advertising models," said Mike Fitzsimmons, CEO of Delivery Agent. ...
http://www.deliveryagent.com/new...0070502- funding
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I am watching this guy on CSPAN letting us know that sows like desperate housewives does over 200 product placements per episode.

he is also dealing directly with the celebrities, so he deals directly with Paris Hilton that had her use her jeans when walking out of jail.

More of the creation of the virtual world, more webs of deceit, but now they come out and tell us to our faces, they are so proud of it.

Google guy is there to also there talking about how Google tracks every miniscule aspect of onliners to create and profile them without them ever knowing and then be able to direct market them via massive data mining.


Neocons have no answer to the mess they created, you fucking deceptive pigs that followed blindly into the pits of hell your pitiful masters!!!!!

sane
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Amen brother


Well, now. .... They wouldn't be "real" Christians or "real" Jews now would they??? More exploiting by Illuminati mind-control.
Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 8:24 pm | #
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Not Jews brother.
Zionist.
Not even in the same ballpark.
You aren't one of the confused ones that believe all Jewish people are Zionist, are you?


HEY SANE... lol you gotta know this question
because I'm a dedicated PEST !!

you watched "Ring of Power" yet?

lol


They need retarded COINTELPRO to post here. Anyone with any shred of integrity and intellect will become educated if they stay long enough. That probably explains why they must resort to the less than average and rely on their broken english to keep them from getting a clue. Just a guess. The rest are just evil. And no amount of education will liberate them from the mind-control of their sin nature......
Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 7:04 pm | #

it's a job for TROY when he gets fired.
Sees Things | 07.21.07 - 7:11 pm | #

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Nah, he'll probably get a bonus. Sad.


The Zionist are a HUGE part of the plan and they are using American Christians to implement their plans for the overthrow of Our Republic.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 7:45 pm | #

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Well, now. .... They wouldn't be "real" Christians or "real" Jews now would they??? More exploiting by Illuminati mind-control.


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Hi old man, this is the same as Nam, vets are lost when they get back to the states, iKnow, Il ived in a makeshift tent on the wooded border of a town for months, in fact it took me years just to get 1/2 back in society, if I ever did.
I destest these funguses sucking of humanity.
We are nothing to them bu t cannon fodder, taxes and pissants.
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I think the one difference is that many were led to blame the troops rather than the foreign policy that sticks them in this situation.

the abu graib, haditha shit is nothing compared to what is going on and it ain't the troops it is the foreign policy.

this time we know that the ones in the stockade are pure scapegoats for cheney/rumsfeld/halliburton/ge/bp/aei/blackwater/ dyncorp/rand/rockefeller/buffett/etc.
chris jones | 07.21.07 - 6:57 pm | #


I'm so sick of David Brooks I can barely see straight.


New York Times columnist David Brooks said last night on the PBS Newshour that hes more confused than ever about Iraq. Let me say, Im more uncertain about what to do than Ive ever been in this war, he said. I really have no clue. So I almost have no judgment on what we should do, stay or go. I really am so confused.
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 8:05 pm | #
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As are most people.
That is what they want.
Mass confusion and no thinking.


Have you ever seen the movie where the man says" Just tell me truth and is told, you can't handle the truth"?
Welcome to the real world.
Most people today can not handle the truth.
It will burst their comfort bubble.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 8:02 pm | #
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...h? v=8hGvQtumNAY
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SCREENPLAY FOR A FEW DEMENTED NEO-CONS

CHENEY: You want answers?

CONSTITUTIONAL ATTORNEY: I think I'm entitled to them.

CHENEY: You want answers?

CONSTITUTIONAL ATTORNEY: I want the truth!

CHENEY: You can't handle the truth!

Son, we live in a world that has terrorists. And those terrorists have to be killed by men with guns.

Who's gonna do it? You Ron Paul? You Dennis Kucinich? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom.

You weep for the 9/11 victims and you curse the Black Ops that pulled off 9/11. You have that luxury.

You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that 3,000 deaths on 9/11, while tragic, probably saved Military and Energy corporate profits.

And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves Halliburton, AIG, Deutche Bank, Kissinger, AEI, DynCorp, and Blackwater from congressional hearings...

You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me raising the Dow Industrial Average.

You need me promoting the ideology that Americans have the right to be superior.

We use words like terrorists, fear, "by any means necessary"...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent raking in energy and military profits while conducting sick occultist rituals.

You use 'em as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very stellar corporate profits I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it!

I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way.

Otherwise, I suggest you read AEI propaganda and be a FOXNews pundit.

Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!

CONSTITUTIONAL ATTORNEY: Did you give the stand down order?

CHENEY: (quietly) I did the job Rockefeller sent me to do.

CONSTITUTIONAL ATTORNEY: Did you give the stand down order?

CHENEY: You're goddamn right I did!!


Neocons have no answer to the mess they created, you fucking deceptive pigs that followed blindly into the pits of hell your pitiful masters!!!!!

David Brooks: ‘I’m so confused’ about what to do in Iraq.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...-to-do-in-iraq/
Fresh off his hero worship of President Bush, New York Times columnist David Brooks said last night on the PBS Newshour that he’s more confused than ever about Iraq. “Let me say, I’m more uncertain about what to do than I’ve ever been in this war,” he said. “I really have no clue. So I almost have no judgment on what we should do, stay or go. I really am so confused.”


Great Job Lucus.


Have you ever seen the movie where the man says" Just tell me truth and is told, you can't handle the truth"?
Welcome to the real world.
Most people today can not handle the truth.
It will burst their comfort bubble.


Take the example of Jesus. He did not preach to the "religious" Pharasies and Sadducies. He knew it was a waste of time. He taught the people who needed it most, the sinners and those undesirables considered to be "lower class" Some listened and were converted and saved.

Obviously you consider this to be your very own site where you can speak and rehash your very agenda. I didn't know you could put your "dibs" on it like that. How selfish and self-centered! I believe this is a forum for free speech. Isn't that what alex is fighting so hard for along with a lot of other freedoms we are losing to the NWO?

I have a right to say and speak my mind. If you don't like it, skip over it--like I do with some of yours.

I have always been ahead of the times and have studied hard for what I know. I'm sorry if it offends some of you.

Rebuke a fool and he will remain a fool. Rebuke a wise man and he will learn from it.


Liberty Bound
http://video.google.ca/ videoplay...601709558101431
Tim | 07.21.07 - 12:31 pm | #
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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


C'mon oldman, let's go back a bit further...
sane
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Yes Sir.


enslavement through deception, division, and false fears.
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That pretty much says it.
But the masses are waking up.


sane,
What are the ancient mysteries?
( The control of the masses by the few)
oldman | 07.21.07 - 7:53 pm | #
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on the back of the dollar, the fucking pyramid with the EVIL ALL SEEING EYE on the top.


sane,
What are the ancient mysteries?
( The control of the masses by the few)


C'mon oldman, let's go back a bit further...

pharoahs, romans, knight's templar, scottish rite, freemasons, skull and bones, etc.

But it is all the same shit elitest enslavement through deception, division, and false fears.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=20532#112518


I think it is called " Opticolrectoses"


You told the truth, and there is a lot more to learn. I have prayed for men like yourself to step forward and speak against the tyranny.

I know what evils this govenment has perpetrated on the world's population. U.S. government is the creator of death, destruction and lies. We as a people need to show the rest of the world that a Constitutional Republic can work, that it does work, and the people are in charge.
I will pray for you and all that join in the fight to free America.


sure hope they severed that optic nerve when they got to bush's colon
Sees Things | 07.21.07 - 7:43 pm | #
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Someday you may deeply regret that you didn't pay more attention to what WE have tried to tell you.
I truly do wish you will go and study and see the lies that have told to you.
America was drug into WW2 to establish a Israel and a United Nations.
It is all in the plan.
They " the globalist" are using the Christian right in this country support the destruction of the Muslim religion because they will not do the goose step for the creation of a One World Government.
The Zionist are a HUGE part of the plan and they are using American Christians to implement their plans for the overthrow of Our Republic.


I find many of your postings boring also, but I still read them and try to learn from them.
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 7:33 pm | #
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Also for the record, I think many of my posts are too wordy and I am still working on transitioning from one piece of logic to the other. Guess when I reread them it does seem a bit boring, I'll work on it.


sure hope they severed that optic nerve when they got to bush's colon


if I offended anyone im sorry, i just get so efing angry i got two small children i wuld like them to have a life in peace. so sorry folks i will go to bed now good night
Lars | 07.21.07 - 7:39 pm | #
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Just for the record, I personally found nothing offensive, g'night


pffft, I know how they play
kill prophets for profits.


if I offended anyone im sorry, i just get so efing angry i got two small children i wuld like them to have a life in peace. so sorry folks i will go to bed now good night


Sane. How do you think we are going to get out of this mess we are in? Well, good luck to you if you think you can do it for yourself(ves). You obviously do not recognize the time we are in and the opposition we are up against. Someday you may deeply regret that you didn't pay more attention to what I have tried to tell you.

I find many of your postings boring also, but I still read them and try to learn from them.
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 7:33 pm | #
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Well you and steve can wallow in your falalism waiting for the second coming, who will most likely be a "false prophet" who tricked you into praying for the wrong things and diminishing your human courageous spirit through lies, deception, and fear.


Marjorie one of the greatest lies propagated for centuries is the whole second coming will happen when israel rebuilds the temple on the dome of the rock.

#1 it is a manipulated form of dis info that has little reference to actual text

#2 even if you did believe that BS, the whole state of israel is according to hassidic jews, religious and pious christians, and devout and learned muslims is a fraud as god is the only one that can create a country, not men though drawing lines in the sand.

so the protection of the fucked up military industrial complex pawns that run israeli foreign policy is one of the greatest jokes among religiuos judeo-chistian-muslim scholars. it is a fricking farce intended to support some second coming that will only bring about more death, destruction, and hatred between humans all over the planet.

we need to stop supplying everyone in the middle east with weapons of mass and minimal destruction ASAP!

It is the equivalent of the COINTELPRO inner city programs where we shipped in thousands of handguns/shotguns/bullets into the inner cities so that poor blacks would kill each other.

we do the same in africa, the same in sunni/shia lands, the same in bosnia, etc, etc.


Sorry Marjorie, but you do seem to be getting into the lost world of blind bible thumping which has been proven to be another distraction by COINTELPRO, probably gonna have to side with oldman on this one.
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Sane. How do you think we are going to get out of this mess we are in? Well, good luck to you if you think you can do it for yourself(ves). You obviously do not recognize the time we are in and the opposition we are up against. Someday you may deeply regret that you didn't pay more attention to what I have tried to tell you.

I find many of your postings boring also, but I still read them and try to learn from them.


I dont understand no,enlighten me please. why is usa licking israels but holle like it was made out of icecream? please tell me


Marjorie Kidman,
I truly am sorry if I offended you.
That is just a real touchy point with me.
I am sorry I mistook your intent.


your loving goverment is about to start world war three to protect a litle state in the midle east with no right to be there in the first place. if i hear someone say israel one more time im going to puke
Lars
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I do not understand what is hard to understand.
That does make since doesn't it?


Yes Mame.


Marjorie Kidman , your loving goverment is about to start world war three to protect a litle state in the midle east with no right to be there in the first place. if i hear someone say israel one more time im going to puke f. you f. israel and f. the nwo


Marjorie Kidman,
I do not and did not mean to insult you.
But if you want to discuss religion, there are sites for that.
You will never change my mind.


Old man: I am posting not for you or your comments but for the benefit of the masses. So, please let it be. I do not like you.


shhh, actually that troy caller cracks me up.


Marjorie Kidman ,
Girl, you are totally fucked up with this shit.
The " Zion" in the Bible has absolutely "NOTHING" to do with Zionism or these Zionist.
Why can't you get that through your religious saturated brain?
Please do not approach me again with your religious fanatic beliefs.
I really "Do NOT Care".
Beleave what you want.
Go and donate money to the Zionist and praise them with your Televangelist.
You have been given the facts and you choose not to study and find the truth.
You have the right to do so if that is what you chose to do.
I feel sorry for you.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 7:11 pm | #
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Sorry Marjorie, but you do seem to be getting into the lost world of blind bible thumping which has been proven to be another distraction by COINTELPRO, probably gonna have to side with oldman on this one.


well anonymus im yust trying to live my life and raise my children in peace, its your efing fault we are in this mess its you the ignorant american people who live in your own litle world with no clue about the real world who elected that pchycopat not once but twice now u cry about it? whats the mather? war is peace ignorance is strenght slavery is freedom right? so call me chinese laugh at my brokken english and enjoy your slavery you brought it down on your selfs i saw u wawing the chinese made amarican flags like you have lost your minds . there is an old saying in my country
you reap what you sow. enjoy


Some will accept the truth and deal with it, but others will take the banner on prison planet cover seriously and think they can live forver if they give some huckster a bunch of money, but there will come a time that they'll realize they wasted their money and put their trust in a scam.
Steve | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 4:48 pm | #

More "Steve" fun posts...

In the case of Ron Paul, your gonna see at least a few million raised by poor sheeople that give every last dime they have in hopes of saving america, only to discover that Ron Paul and some of his advertisers make some nice profit, but the people who put their trust in him get nothing but a false dream.
Steve | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 8:08 pm | #

I knew 9/11 was control demolition long before I ever met Alex and there's a new thing on the Internet called "SEARCH ENGINES" so that people can find out all kinds of information even without having to pay Alex a membership fee.
Steve | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 2:03 pm | #

And I'm sure that Alex knows he'll always have his following of loyal sheeople, that will never question his motives, but will follow him to the pits of hell.
Steve | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 1:52 pm | #

And you won't find God on some cultist page written by Alex Jones, because his goal is to make merchandise out of you by taking some truth, adding a lot of lies and twisting all up so forsake the true God and bow down and worship him.
Steve | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 10:31 am | #

Alex already knows the elections are fixed so why would he mislead you all into thinking Ron Paul can become president? Why does Alex advertise Ron Paul so much??? OH YEAH, ALEX IS IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING ADVERTISING.
Steve | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 6:57 am | #


Marjorie Kidman ,
Girl, you are totally fucked up with this shit.
The " Zion" in the Bible has absolutely "NOTHING" to do with Zionism or these Zionist.
Why can't you get that through your religious saturated brain?
Please do not approach me again with your religious fanatic beliefs.
I really "Do NOT Care".
Beleave what you want.
Go and donate money to the Zionist and praise them with your Televangelist.
You have been given the facts and you choose not to study and find the truth.
You have the right to do so if that is what you chose to do.
I feel sorry for you.


They need retarded COINTELPRO to post here. Anyone with any shred of integrity and intellect will become educated if they stay long enough. That probably explains why they must resort to the less than average and rely on their broken english to keep them from getting a clue. Just a guess. The rest are just evil. And no amount of education will liberate them from the mind-control of their sin nature......
Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 7:04 pm | #

it's a job for TROY when he gets fired.


Newt afronts the military brass who beleive 911 was an inside job, calling anyone who beleive ist was not our enmy is insane,
He is the enemy, the domestic one. Glad to see the Military Brass getting moral courage.
Hi Newt, eat sheet and die.
chris jones | 07.21.07 - 6:42 pm | #
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Well he is right, you know.
You just need to know who the enemy really is.
And we know who the enemy is and We know who is attacking America.
And they ain't in a fucking cave either.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 6:46 pm | #
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Newt and Fred Thompson are owned 150% by AEI

The same AEI that has all the blueprints of the continuity of government.

They are planning the coup with Dicky boy down to the daily torture schedule on Windows Live Meeting....

http://www.continuityofgovernmen...t.org/ home.html
About the Commission
The Continuity of Government Commission was launched in the fall of 2002 in order to study and recommend reforms to ensure the continuity of our governmental institutions in the event of a catastrophic attack. The commission is an American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Brookings Institution project headquartered at AEI. It is funded by the Carnegie, Hewlett, Packard, and MacArthur foundations. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford are the honorary co-chairs of the commission and Lloyd Cutler and Alan Simpson are the chairmen. The commission includes members who have served in government at the highest levels. The commission first focused its attention on preserving Congress, and has now turned to the executive and the Supreme Court. The central issue that the commission addressed is how Congress could function if a large number of members were killed or incapacitated. The problem is most acute in the House of Representatives because the Constitution requires that all vacancies be filled by special election, and it takes four months on average to fill these seats. If there were mass vacancies, the House might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement, or it might operate with a small and unrepresentative number. A second problem is that of incapacity. There is no precedent for filling temporary vacancies so both houses of Congress would be severely diminished, or unable to operate at all, if a large number of members were incapacitated. The events of September 11th led to several ongoing efforts to preserve the continuity of Congress. There was a similar effort in the 1950s and 1960s to deal with these same issues.

In addition, the commission will deal both with the continuity of the Supreme Court, which has a quorum requirement, and with potential reforms to the Presidential Succession Act.The commission met twice in the fall of 2002 to hear testimony and formulate recommendations. It issued a report in June of 2003 on the continuity of Congress. The second phase of the commission has begun addressing presidential succession and will include discussion of continuity in the Supreme Court.
Areas of Investigation The Continuity of Government Commission will address the continuity of all three branches of government: Continuity of Congress - The central issue the commission will address is how Congress would function after a terrorist attack. Because of the possibility of large numbers of incapacitated members or vacancies, Congress might not be able to function unless some provision is made to replace members who are deceased or unable to perform their duties. A crippled Congress might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement in a time of crisis.
Presidential Succession - In a second phase of the project, the commission will look at issues surrounding the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, with an eye to ensure that there is a clear transfer of power to the appropriate successor in a time of crisis.
Continuity of the Supreme Court - In the aftermath of a terrorist attack, there might be significant institutional questions over which the Supreme Court would have to rule. The Supreme Court has a quorum requirement of six, and there are a number of other questions about the status of lower court appeals if the Court were disabled for a significant amount of time.
Continuity of Congress But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session. The resulting deaths and injuries might have caused the Congress to cease functioning altogether for a number of months. There are two issues that threaten the continuity of Congress after a terrorist attack: mass vacancies and incapacitated members. The issue of mass vacancies affects the House of Representatives where vacancies are filled only by special election, unlike the Senate where governors may make immediate temporary appointments. Special elections are governed by state laws, and, on average, it takes four months to elect a new member to fill a vacant seat. Depending on the number of vacancies, the House might not even be able to field a quorum, or it might have to operate with a skeleton crew of members not representative of the country as a whole. The second issue of incapacitated members affects both the House and the Senate. Neither body has regular procedures to deal with incapacitated members. In the past, members who have serious incapacities that prevent them from performing their duties were left in place until the end of their terms. If a large number of members were temporarily unable to perform their duties due to injuries or infectious diseases, both bodies might not be able to function because of a lack of a quorum. In the 1950s and 60s, the Senate passed three constitutional amendments giving governors the power to make temporary appointments to fill House vacancies when there were mass vacancies. The House did not act on these measures. After September 11th, Norman Ornstein wrote "What if Congress were Obliterated?" in Roll Call addressing this very issue. On a parallel track, Congressman Brian Baird introduced H.J. Res. 67. A number of other proposals have been introduced or suggested. There have also been a number of hearings before committees in the House.
http://www.continuityofgovernmen...mages/ quote.jpg
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>>> Other AEI Projects in Preparation of the Distribution of Jews then other Races to enslavement and execution Halliburton FEMA Nazi Concentration Camps:
-PNAC and their "new pearl harbor"
-Iraq War
-Surge I
-Surge II
-Patriot Act
-Continuity of Government
-Patriot Act II
-Military Commissions Act
-Iran Plan
-North Korea Plan
-Plan to remove foreign policy from the president and put the responsibility of an NGO puppet under the code name "War Czar."
-Campaign to supress DC Madam phone resords.
-Campaign to link VT to 9/11 truthers and/or islamic funamentalist sympathizers.
-Smeer campaign against 9/11 truthers-includes the focused campaign to lock up all truthers as mentaly ill and enemies of the state (Fred revealed a part of this in the Michael Moore video).
-Implantable microchips to track different races who will have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide
-Shifting media attention of victims of AEI sanctioned child sex torture rituals for elite by inventing the fraudulent "false memory syndrome" and funding the fraudulent McMartin movie
-Bribing, blackmailing, coercing, intimidating , and killing in order to force the RFID program into legislation. They have already built the systems with tracking in global hawks and data access points in all street surveillance cameras as well all processing of heavy flow of RFID info from every Halliburton concentration camp
-Pushing of illuminati and totalitarian presidential candidates Newt Gingrich and Fred Thompson
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So now you no longer have to wonder about why these posts show up all over blogs, it is part of an overall multiyear plan to assist in the granting of land to the elites as a New World Order sweeps across the globe. It should be one heck of a show.


Holy shit, they removed the somewhat trained operatives like Rich, Freddy, Commenter, Amuzed, Steve and have decided to go cheap with the chinese slave auto posters...AWESOME!!!!!!

You know the ones that have no relevance to the thread whatsoever and just drop generic whispers as if we were still under propagated mind control, cool!!!

Guess the funding is getting thin since Cheney used it all for exta time on the "World's Most Dangerous Game" ranch. - Sane



They need retarded COINTELPRO to post here. Anyone with any shred of integrity and intellect will become educated if they stay long enough. That probably explains why they must resort to the less than average and rely on their broken english to keep them from getting a clue. Just a guess. The rest are just evil. And no amount of education will liberate them from the mind-control of their sin nature......


We are nothing to them bu t cannon fodder, taxes and pissants.
chris jones | 07.21.07 - 6:57 pm | #
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One of the my best friends in my whole life has not lived in a building since he came home from Nam.
He is an fantastic person too.
He will not use a phone at all.
I joined the navy in 72, but they fucked my friend up for life. And all for a lie.
I truly hope God is vengeful.


The word Zion in the Bible has absolutely nothing to do with Zionism or Zionist.

Do not confuse religion for politics.

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I don't believe that that Zion is a religion. I suppose it can be construed to be. What it was was a place with a direct connection (like Moses' connection) between a man (David) and God and a prophesy and promise with a seal put in place by God for the decendents of David (See II Samuel 7). Both the decendents of Judah and of David have a major part to play, especially when Jesus comes.

The Bible says certain decendents of Judah (his goodly horse in battle) who have been scattered to the four corners will be the first to receive God's blessings (As per Zechariah 3v.12 and Amos I v.20-21.)

The place, Zion, and the top of the mountains shall be the new gathering place for the people who are found worthy. There will be a Holy Highway and many from all over the world "will flow to the new Jerusalem." (Zechariah 8 v.23 "Thus saith the Lord of hosts. In those days it shall come to pass that ten men shall take hold of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.")

Micah 4,v.2 "And many nations shall say, Come and let us go to the mountain of the Lord and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways and we will walk in his paths; for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off, and they shall beat their swords into plow shares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

In the Bible, Jerusalem is oftentimes referred to as the old Jerusalem (in the country of Israe)l where Zion was when David reigned there. And now Zion refers to the "top of the mountains" in America where the holy city called the "New Jerusalem" will come down.

So there are two places that are are prominent and to be blessed by God. 1) Israel and the old Jerusalem built by Solomon which was destroyed after Jesus' death (which will be rebuilt when Jesus returns as per Amos 9 v.11.)

and, 2) the New Jerusalem (Rev. 21v.2) to be located in the "top of the mountains" with our Heavenly Father and Jesus there who are the temple in it.

These happenings and many other events will take place right in between the the "daily sacrifice" (lasting 995 days), and the the abomination of desolation, ( lasting 1305 days.)

It is my belief that any other variation of "Zion" has been set up as a distraction and an evil connotation in order to keep us from learning about the "real Zion."


I have no credit cards.
Everything I have is paid for.
I only put money in the bank that I have a contract for.
I have had it with these scum bags.
No more support from me, at all.


An estimated 8,000 female veterans are homeless in the US the most in the nation's history and a number that is expected to increase as more women return from the war in Iraq.
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And this how Bushit treats his heroes he is so proud of?
I wish someone would shoot the scum.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 6:22 pm | #

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Hi old man, this is the same as Nam, vets are lost when they get back to the states, iKnow, Il ived in a makeshift tent on the wooded border of a town for months, in fact it took me years just to get 1/2 back in society, if I ever did.
I destest these funguses sucking of humanity.
We are nothing to them bu t cannon fodder, taxes and pissants.


i dono if to laugh or cry or just run for the hills, the dictators use the cattle Prod of terror and the sheepole
continue to buy the propaganda i`ve given up i dont even try to tell the truth to anyone anymore they think im insane and there is nowhere to run the neo con dictatorship of terror is evryhvere europe us it dosent mather unless the sheepole wake up we are all screwed. god help us
and sorry for my brokken english my brotheres im eurotrash tought at a public "education" centre so go figure


I have started giving people i contract for a 10% discount if they pay me cash.
And I do not write a contract.
It is a hand shake and cash.
I buy all the material for the job in cash.
I will not pay taxes to these Bastards.
Fuck The NWO.


I am so sick of this shit.
How in hell are We going this Republic?
Our representatives don't represent Us.
They represent the Elite and themselves.
God help the Republic.


HL Opposing Force Guide 1: in french
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=8


Newt afronts the military brass who beleive 911 was an inside job, calling anyone who beleive ist was not our enmy is insane,
He is the enemy, the domestic one. Glad to see the Military Brass getting moral courage.
Hi Newt, eat sheet and die.
chris jones | 07.21.07 - 6:42 pm | #
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Well he is right, you know.
You just need to know who the enemy really is.
And we know who the enemy is and We know who is attacking America.
And they ain't in a fucking cave either.


RE: Newt: Anyone Who Believes 9/11 Was Not an Enemy Attack is Insane
http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../ 210707Newt.htm

Well, he is right you know. We were 'Attacked By the Enemy'. Just not the Enemy they want us to believe.


hallelujah brother


Newt afronts the military brass who beleive 911 was an inside job, calling anyone who beleive ist was not our enmy is insane,
He is the enemy, the domestic one. Glad to see the Military Brass getting moral courage.
Hi Newt, eat sheet and die.


Death is too good for that SOB.
He wants torture so bad?
He should get it every hour of every day for the rest of miserable life.
Long live Bush!


careful oldman u`re not a terrorist are you? You must speak of our savior and emperor with respect or else the terrorist wil eat us. i personaly wish he wuld die an slow and painful cancer death.


RE: Criminalizing the Antiwar Movement.

Bush thinks he can write the laws of this country?
Him and his signing statements.
I have a statement for Bush, Fuck You!
That Bastard is going to too far.
Bush is not a fucking Dictator, at least not yet.


An estimated 8,000 female veterans are homeless in the US the most in the nation's history and a number that is expected to increase as more women return from the war in Iraq.
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And this how Bushit treats his heroes he is so proud of?
I wish someone would shoot the scum.


AOL radio offers free 24/7 radio FREE...It is good and it's the only place I can hear the shit I like METAL!
http://music.aol.com/radioguide/bb


Dear Us and A.
I support your war of terror!
Let Boy George Bush and dictator Cheney drink the blood of every single Iraqi man woman and child, may you drop so much depleted uranium on them so not even a single lizard can live in their desert for a 1000 years
and always remember:
War is peace, ignorance is strenght, and freedom is slavery.


Gary Busey was dead for several minutes after a motorcycle crash..Alex almost got him to talk about it..One last post:
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=0


Turkey threatens Iraq incursion
July 22, 2007 - 0:35AM
Source: ABC
Turkey has warned that it could send troops into northern Iraq after today's general elections if talks with Iraqi and US officials fail to produce effective measures against Kurdish rebels based there.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan says he has invited his Iraqi counterpart, Nouri Al Maliki, to visit Ankara after the vote to discuss the presence of Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) rebels in northern Iraq.

Accusing Washington of failing to fulfil its pledge of curbing the PKK, Mr Erdogan says he will seek trilateral talks in order to resolve the problem.

"We will ask them to take whatever steps are necessary or we will do whatever is necessary," he said.

Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul says the country will not hesitate to act to eliminate the threat posed by the PKK, which both Ankara and Washington list as a terrorist organisation.

"Our aim is not to enter Iraq but to neutralise the terrorist organisation," he said.

"We will use our right [to self-defence] as long as the terrorist organisation continues to harm Turkey."

The PKK has been fighting for self-rule in Turkey's mainly Kurdish south-east since 1984 in a bloody conflict that has claimed more than 37,000 lives.

The rebels have stepped up their attacks this year and the Army has massed troops on the border with Iraq, fuelling speculation of a cross-border operation.

In the latest fighting, PKK rebels armed with rocket launchers attacked a police checkpoint late on Friday in the south-eastern town of Semdinli, close to the border with Iraq and Iran, the Anatolia news agency reported.

It said two police officers were slightly injured in the attack.

Dominant issue

Mounting PKK violence has been a dominant campaign issue ahead of today's vote, with the opposition accusing Mr Erdogan and his Justice and Development Party (AKP) of being soft on the rebels.

Some Government ministers have been the targets of protest by angry crowds at funerals for soldiers slain in fighting with the rebels.

Opinion surveys tip the AKP to win today's elections and secure a second term in power, with some suggesting that it may garner more than 40 per cent of the vote for a solid parliamentary majority.

The main opposition Republican People's Party (CHP) and the right-wing Nationalist Action Party (MHP), which both advocate a tougher stance against the PKK, are expected to make it into Parliament as well.

Ankara says the rebels enjoy safe haven in northern Iraq, where they obtain weapons and explosives for cross-border attacks against Turkish targets.

It also accuses northern Iraqi Kurds of turning a blind eye to the PKK presence on their territory and even of supporting the rebels.

Washington opposes any Turkish military action, fearing this could destabilise the relatively peaceful region and further strain already tense ties between Ankara and the Iraqi Kurds, staunch allies of the United States.


you know , whats really stupid is know all governments can go bad , being they have only one so called leader , this makes it even worse , because thats way to much power for anyone to handle , its no different the 1 single person trying to fly the space shuttle , it just cant be done..
these so called world leaders seem to think they know whats best for the whole darn planet.. little do they actually know .
funny thing is , here they are showing them selfs as being smarter , and if they cant see that this planet is about in a case of turmoil , then they ain't to smart ...


From the SPLC website...

Lately, the paranoia about the SPP process has become so intense that a proposed highway linking Canada, Mexico and the United States is seen as...

Wait a second...I thought that there *weren't* any plans for a proposed superhighway...at least that is what we're all being told. Hmm


The majority of the American people must be insane. This violates the 2nd 4th and 5th amendments.
Sony | 07.21.07 - 4:49 pm | #

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But it's All to do with Keeping Us Safe from ( US Government inflicted Terrorism)...mmm

We have NO rights or liberties & Freedom under the Protection of Big Brother & The NWO, that is the Way the NWO like it!
Perfect for the NWO = No resistance from the Population

The NWO Just love Our Resistance to them & their Way of life ...Right?

I Smell Fear & see panic from the NWO!
The world is Singing (9/11 WAS a INSIDE JOB!)
& they (the NWO/Evil Empire) Know they Can't Stop the Truth!!!

Death to the NWO!!!

VICTROY WILL BE OURS!


pardon, my browser is not clearing..
Hope this works...
The Great Alex Jones interviewing Gary Busey:
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=0


The GREAT Alex Jones interviews Gary Busey:
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=2


Could this make the truth movement illegal?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ind...ext=va& aid=6377


The majority of the American people must be insane. This violates the 2nd 4th and 5th ammendment.


We're All Gonna Die
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Columnist
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When did they figure that one out? The banner on prison planet's cover said you can "LIVE FORVER"

Here's a new revelation of truth, that's hard to accept, and many people try to deny it, but some of us have learned to accept it and deal with it.

Every man, woman, child, beast, insect, animal and plant will die some day. In fact I'll be willing to bet you that within 200 years or less everybody that's alive today, even new born infants will be dead and gone. That's part of nature my friends.

But here's the good news. Generally speaking, new generations will spring forth, our kids will have kids and their kids will have kids and so on and so forth.

So now that you have this new found wisdom of truth and accept the fact that we're all going to die the question is, how do you want to spend your last few days, hours, months, years or decades that you have remaining?

Some will accept the truth and deal with it, but others will take the banner on prison planet cover seriously and think they can live forver if they give some huckster a bunch of money, but there will come a time that they'll realize they wasted their money and put their trust in a scam.


Fight the Power..Fight the powers that be! Public Enemy:
http://video.google.com/videopla...deopla...earch& plindex=0
scanner | 07.21.07 - 3:37 pm | #

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Doing Just That FULL TIME!
Good Video Clip & Great Song!

Death to the NWO!


Check out the latest executive order. You can have your assets taken from you if you speak against the war. Wait till this one hit the public Because 70% are against the war.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ind...ext=va& aid=6377


Fight the Power..Fight the powers that be! Public Enemy:
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=0


We're All Gonna Die
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Columnist

Friday 13 July 2007

We are all wired into a survival trip now.

- Hunter S. Thompson


Who can forget the incredible scandal that erupted back in May of 2002? Around about the middle of that month, details began to emerge about the August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing that specifically warned Bush about Osama bin Laden's determination to strike the United States.

Wait. Actually, everyone forgot, because two days later, the Bush administration unleashed a blizzard of dire warnings about impending terrorist attacks. FBI Director Robert Mueller intoned such attacks were "inevitable," and the Department of Homeland Security announced the imminent, explosive destruction of all American railroads, along with the Brooklyn Bridge and the Statue of Liberty.

Who can forget the incredible scandal that erupted back in June of 2003? Over the course of two days, reports emerged about serious doubts held by the CIA regarding the credibility of the administration's claim Iraq tried to buy uranium from Niger. On the heels of this, Congress unfurled its 9/11 report, which criticized all levels of the Bush administration for its performance before and during the attacks.

Wait. Actually, everyone forgot, because the Bush administration unleashed another blizzard of warnings about impending terrorist attacks. Specifically, the Department of Homeland Security warned terrorists were, once again, preparing to attack the United States with suicide missions using commercial airliners as bombs.

Who can forget the incredible scandal that erupted back in December of 2003? 9/11 Commission chairman Thomas Keane declared the attacks of 9/11 should have been prevented. The next day, a Federal appeals court ruled against the administration on the case of suspected terrorist Jose Padilla, stating Padilla could not be held indefinitely without being charged.

Wait. Actually, everyone forgot, because the Bush administration increased the terrorism threat level to Orange and claimed more suicide planes were about to come zooming out of the sky. Six international flights were diverted due to potential terrorist actions of some passengers who were later identified as an insurance salesman, an elderly Chinese woman and a five-year-old boy.

Who can forget the incredible scandal that erupted back in May of 2004? Secretary of State Colin Powell appeared on Meet the Press and stated the intelligence on Iraqi WMD he'd been given for his UN presentation had been "inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading." Horrifying new pictures of the torture, rape and murder of prisoners by Americans at Abu Ghraib prison became public. The American military accidentally bombed a wedding party in Iraq, killing 40 civilians.

Wait. Actually, everyone forgot, because FBI Director Mueller and Attorney General John Ashcroft announced they had reports from multiple sources of al Qaeda's "specific intention to hit the United States hard." The threat levels were not raised, but dire warnings of impending catastrophe were offered by the administration for the next several days.

The recipe is simple, like the directions on the back of a shampoo bottle. Damaging reports of Bush administration malfeasance emerge. Warnings of imminent terrorist-borne doom immediately follow, all spread far and wide by said Bush administration. Lather, rinse, repeat.

There are many more instances of this curious timing to be found, but apparently, no one in the administration is concerned this dubious pattern - spreading fear among the populace to change the subject, an act of terrorism itself - might start to wear thin.

Who is going to forget the incredible scandals of June and July of 2007? The Bush administration leaves Nixon in the dust by commuting the prison sentence of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. This action strongly suggests the existence of a quid pro quo between Libby and Bush's people to cover up the criminal activities of powerful officials like Vice President Dick Cheney, who had recently claimed his office wasn't part of the executive branch to avoid handing papers over to the National Archives.

The administration deploys spurious claims of Executive Privilege to avoid subpoenas regarding the patently illegal NSA wiretapping of American citizens. That privilege is extended to deny Congressional access to Harriet Miers, former White House counsel, regarding the issue of fired US attorneys. Contempt charges are threatened against Miers, and the NSA subpoena stonewall comes closer to getting openly challenged in court. Alberto Gonzales is exposed as having lied to the Senate in his testimony about FBI abuses of the Patriot Act.

Few of the benchmarks for success in Iraq are met. Desperate to halt a tide of GOP defections from his Iraq policy, Bush again coughs up the totally discredited link between 9/11 and Iraq, saying, "The same people that attacked us on September the 11th is a crowd that is now bombing people, killing innocent men, women and children." The House again votes to withdraw American troops from Iraq. A new Harris poll on Bush's approval rating is published. The number reads 26 percent.

Wait.

Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff all but guarantees devastating new terror attacks against the United States this summer. He bases this warning on a "gut feeling." White House spokesman Tony Snow threatens that withdrawal from Iraq would bring terrorism "to a shopping mall near you."

Meanwhile, al Qaeda is alleged to be as secure in Pakistan and Afghanistan as they were before 9/11, yet no one in the administration connects this new security to the drain of resources happening in Iraq. Additionally, no one in the administration points out the fact that, if Chertoff's gut is indeed correct, and we are indeed attacked again, responsibility for that attack will fall upon those who manufactured war in Iraq. Never mind the fact that if an attack is allowed to happen, even a minor one, more of our constitutional rights and protections will be eviscerated by the very same people who failed to stop it again.

Will everyone forget about the scandals of June and July 2007 amid these deadly warnings of coming death?


theres your answer, sane, ol chap!


Sane,
you can find all for original aircraft at the bottom of the atlantic.
The scum that flew the original aircraft bailed out just before crashing them in the drink and were rescued by the coast guard!
The passengers have been fish food for the last 6 years, prolly not much left of their bodies by now


Know your rights:
http://action.aclu.org/site/DocS...h.pdf? docID=182


And I'm not even drinking


Let's Impeach the President..Neil yourng..Trin' again:
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=4


Songs may not have heard...Neil Young's, Lets Impeach tha President...http://video.google.com/videoplay? docid=-232162142634288709&q=neil+young+anti+war& total=34&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search& plindex=4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...h? v=1p3riJGbAlg
check out this video on RFID


Country Joe McDonald..1,2,3, what are we fighten' for?.. (from Woodstock)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s5btZWbViPA


great! I freakin live 5 minutes from downtown L.A. I'm in Spain for the next 10 days. Maybe it is fate.


>>>Ok, we now know that there were no large body passenger planes that hit WTC/Pentagon/shanksville on 9/11/2001...but what about the passengers...

This is the only argument left for the AEI Neocons and the "dead intern in his office" scarsborough.

Well when is the documentary coming out to completely expose what has already been written?????

Not many plane crash victims
http://desip.igc.org/NoPlanesOn911.html
A frequently asked and presently unanswerable question is: what happened to the passengers and crew of the four passenger jets that were supposed to have crashed? While very little information about their deaths has surfaced there is evidence that there were fewer victims than has been reported.

NY based researcher Vincent Sammartino claims that the government seems to have faked the number of plane victims and also faked the number who claimed victim compensation.[25] According to Sammartino, of the 266[26] official names of passengers and crew who were supposed to have died in the four passenger jets, only 52 names have appeared on the Social Security Death Index (SSDI), a privately owned website not affiliated with the Social Security Administration. According to Sammartino, of the 52 listed as dead in the SSDI, which has an accuracy rate of about 83%, only 11 of the family members have claimed victim compensation (not counting 9/11 plane crash widow, Ellen Mariani, who has pointedly refused compensation).

Sammartino writes that his research was spurred in part because of a radio interview he heard with Ms. Mariani and her lawyer in which they spoke of their inability to locate other family members of the purported plane passengers.

If Sammartino’s figures are closer to reality than official reports, the discrepancies also go some way to advancing the NPT. If no planes were involved in the 9/11 attacks, and if Holmgren is right that Flights 11 and 77 did not fly that day (and Flights 93 and 175 did not crash that day), then it might have been easier for the terrorists to have diverted and perhaps disposed of merely 50-60 victims rather than many more bodies.

Thus the NPT helps us to advance, as Holmgren suggests, a combination missile, and preplanned explosives theory to explain the explosions and fires at the Twin Towers and the Pentagon and the lack of any big passenger plane evidence at those sites. It also helps to explain why relatively few "plane crash" victims have come forward. Evidence also indicates that that no big passenger plane (or any other plane) crashed in Shanksville, PA. The episode may have been cooked up simply for purposes of distraction.

Occam’s Razor

As an independent researcher with little at stake in any particular theory, it has been relatively easy for me to follow the NPT evidence where it leads. I have joined the No Planes group because it seems to me most in conformity with Occam’s Razor, the least complex theory that accounts for the available data.

Over and above scores of non-passenger plane related 9/11 anomalies, the NPT seems to provide a common sense explanation for many of the unanswered questions and inconsistencies. For example, the NPT explains:
why government BTS records show that two of the four planes never took off that day and two others were not decommissioned until four years later.
why the government has refused (or been unable) to present "a single airplane part by serial number for independent corroboration," and why there is no confirmed debris of any of the alleged four planes, so that all of them have disappeared without a trace;
why the passenger lists are phony; why no Arabic names are on any of the passenger lists; and why there are remarkably few alleged plane victims’ families requesting compensation
why several of the purported hijackers have turned up alive and why the government apparently felt it necessary to produce such unpersuasive evidence as hijacker passports, training manuals, etc.
why in the immediate aftermath of the attacks, the government claimed that there were terror cells operating in at least 40 states but hasn’t produced even one untainted terror cell in the last five years.
why there is no reliable video of the Pentagon and the NYC Twin Tower attacks. In the case of the Pentagon video released by the government first as photo stills and then as video, no plane is in evidence; nor would it be possible for a big passenger jet to come in at ground level at high speed.
why there was no air cover in NYC or in Washington, D.C. until after the Pentagon attack at 9:37. If there were no hijacked planes there would have been no need for interceptions.
why there are no credible witnesses to ANY of the alleged four planes.
why the authorities destroyed the tapes of the flight controllers’ recollections of the events of that day. Those tapes might contain evidence that flights 11 and 77 did not take off that day and that 175 and 93 did not crash.
why ALL the cell phone calls were fabricated including the iconic "Let’s Roll," call as well as the Ted Olson-Barbara Olson exchange.[27]


HOPE Conference is dead! =(
http://www.hope.net/
*From 2600.com* Check the hope.net website for an important announcement regarding the Hackers On Planet Earth conference. Updates will be posted as they become available.


MORE BIG BROTHER...

iPhone Remote Desktop
http://iphoneapplicationlist.com...remote-desktop/
Access your mac from your iPhone!!!! Some features are:- Screen capture with mouse click and basic typing support - Simple iTunes Remote control (Control iTunes with your iPhone! maybe your iTV also?) - Browse your files - Run applescript remotely - iSight image capture (See whats going on in your house!!!)


Pink Police Arrest RNC (Reckless Negligent Criminals)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=imbfvaZaJQ8
Wash. DC Friday July 20, 2007 Pink Police surrounded a hotbed of criminal activity today at the Republican National Committee offices in the nations capitol. Delivering a cease and desist order, the Pink Police warned the suspects to not touch any of the evidence on the crime scene. An independent media reporter posted the scene at YouTube


China is Zim's 'best friend'
20/07/2007 20:49 - (SA)
http://www.news24.com/News24/ Afr...2150899,00.html
Harare - Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe has pronounced China his country's top co-operation partner, Harare's Herald newspaper reported on Friday.

Its website quoted him as saying: "Currently, we are being driven by our Look East policy and our first country for co-operation is China."

Mugabe was addressing a delegation from the Communist Party of China at a meeting in Harare on Thursday.

He said relations between the two countries dated back to the struggle for independence, which Beijing backed to the hilt.

"Now that we are independent and sovereign, we have pursued together ways of how we can transform our socio-economic systems for the benefit of our people."

The two countries had done this realising that there were areas where they must observe their oneness especially on the international forum.

Zimbabwe and China had always been criticised by Western countries at international forums on false grounds that they did not uphold human rights.

But the United Nations had always found nothing wrong with the human rights records of China and Zimbabwe, Mugabe said.


The night Mitch McConnell became the leader of the Republican Party
http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/3...10- 43afa8091ee5
A remarkable thing happened in the United States Senate earlier this evening, and it occurred over a rather unremarkable piece of legislation that was being debated. Conservatives, frustrated at the lack of a genuine leader of their party, may have finally found one in Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell.


Taliban Rising...Pakistan aids the Resurgence with U.S. Culpability
http:// newssophisticate.blogspot...resurgence.html
How is the Taliban rearming themselves and gaining strength while we are pursuing them fiercely in the 'war on terror'?We are only adding kindling to the fire and if Kristol and the Bush regime get their way.... It will not be a minor blaze...these Machiavellian 'fellas are seeking a forest fire and are sure to get it.


U.S. to lift ban on lighters on flights
http://www.reuters.com/article/ n...038388620070721
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Screeners at U.S. airports will stop confiscating common cigarette lighters because authorities now consider them a distraction from efforts to find bombs and other threats.


YOU WILL NOT SEE TOO MUCH OF THIS REPORT:
What Is And Should Never Be -- Homeless Female Veterans
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/07...p02s01- usmi.htm
Rachel Caesar served in the National Guard and Army Reserve for 14 years. Today, three years after returning from a tour of duty in Afghanistan, she's out of an apartment, out of work, and, on some days, ready to "run away and hide."
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BECAUSE YOU WILL BE MIND CONTROLLED WITH THIS ONE:
Women "lie, cheat and steal" to get an advantage in a relationship.
http:// www.manchestereveningnews...archive=archive
A new survey of women's attitudes to truth, relationships, and behavior, said the overwhelming majority (96%) admit to lying. Not news to many perhaps, but now there's statistics to back it up.
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Fuck you you genocidal media monopoly!


Liberty Bound
http://video.google.ca/ videoplay...601709558101431


Demark secretly evacuates 200 Iraqi aides ahead of it's withdrawl
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007.../21iraq- web.php
Denmark has secretly airlifted about 200 translators and other Iraqi employees and their relatives out of Iraq to try to keep them from coming to harm after it withdraws its ground forces later this summer, the Danish government disclosed Friday. They will be offered asylum in Denmark.


Big Brother Alert
AWESOME: Software spots key players in online communities
http://www.newscientisttech.com/...line- news_rss20
By analysing the connections between thousands of messages on several topics, the work could help website designers automatically reward, or highlight, the most valuable members of a community, or improve methods for searching through a conversation for the most relevant information.


Marine Corps Maj Gen Walter Gaskin, who commands US troops in Iraq's Anbar province, said Iraqi security forces need at least two more years of mentoring and support.
Longest training course in history isn't it? They could have got 3 PHD's in the time they've been 'training'. Mind Control not working as expected or what?
Rob O'Loughlin | 07.21.07 - 12:13 pm | #
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UK troop reserves 'almost gone'
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps...ews/ 6909550.stm
The head of the Army has warned that British troops are so stretched that the nation's military reserves are "almost non-existent". In the memo, leaked to the Daily Telegraph, Gen Sir Richard Dannatt said the Army was undermanned because of operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. He also said vital equipment was being used "at the edge of sustainability".

A spokesman for the Ministry of Defence said the forces were working hard but the current situation was "manageable". Gen Dannatt also said the Army has "almost no capability to react to the unexpected". He said: "It is difficult to predict the long-term effect of this level of pressure on people. It is critical that we improve manning as quickly as we can." There is reportedly just one battalion of 500 troops, called the Spearhead Lead Element, available to be used in an emergency, such as a major domestic terrorist attack or a rapid deployment overseas. BBC defence correspondent Paul Wood said the Army currently comprised about 98,000 personnel, some 2,000 soldiers short of capacity. He said the internal memo was leaked to put political pressure on the government ahead of a spending review. "Although clearly there's politics at play here, I think this is a heartfelt plea from Gen Dannatt that if things are just about sustainable now, it cannot go on for much longer like this," our correspondent added.

Revisit planning
The document also said that Britain's second back-up unit, the Airborne Task Force, which is formed around the Parachute Regiment, could not deploy fully. It blamed this on "shortages in manpower, equipment and stocks". The MoD conceded that if "operations continue at this pace, we will have to revisit our planning assumptions". The spokesman added: "In recent months, we have drawn down our force levels in a number of operations. "The Armed Forces' mission in Northern Ireland will end on 31 July; we withdrew the bulk of our forces from Bosnia-Herzegovina earlier this year and... we will reduce further our force levels in Iraq by 500. "We are certainly not complacent about the longer term implications, which we are acutely aware of and are addressing."

Liam Fox, the shadow defence secretary [WTF is this fucking Illuminati position???], said the lack of reserves was "an appalling situation and damning indictment" of the way the government handled the Services. "They are being asked to carry out tasks for which they are neither funded nor equipped. There is an urgent need to review our strategic approach because we cannot continue over-stretching our Forces." In October Gen Dannatt said that the presence of UK armed forces in Iraq "exacerbates the security problems" and they should "get out some time soon". He also said that initial planning for the post-war period had been poor.


US Papers Sat: Madison Avenue Goes to War?
Marketing for Hearts and Minds, Contractors Convicted; Struggle over September
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...nue_Goes_to_War
Neither big daily files an Iraq update today, and most important Iraq-related readings focus on the stateside debates, raging on as September draws nearer.

The Bush administration spun back at yesterday’s story that its Iraq commanders are seeking more "surge" time, but not without subtly trying to ratchet down expectations for September's "benchmarks" report.

Be sure to check out the Post’s front-pager on a Rand report urging the Pentagon to look to Madison Avenue for victory in Iraq, and the NYT’s profile of the beginnings of GOP campaign strategy in a time of unpopular war. Also take a look at the short piece in the Times about a federal case involving a KBR subcontractor's scheme to overcharge the Pentagon for cargo hauling.

This whole insurgency thing could just be one big misunderstanding, according to a new Rand study commissioned by the US Joint Forces Command. Karen DeYoung writes in the Post that the study’s author, Todd Helmus, clinical psychologist, advocates a “marketing approach” to the Pentagon Iraq strategy.


US Mil Deaths Down in July vs Previous Months
Death Toll Among US Military in Iraq: Month, Year, War to Date, and Trend LinesUS Mil Deaths Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun July YTD WTD

Fatalities 83 80 81 104 126 101 53 629 3632
Days 31 28 31 30 31 30 21 202 1585
Daily Average 2.68 2.86 2.61 3.47 4.06 3.37 2.52 3.11 2.29
Source: icasualties.org
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...Previous_Months
BUT THEY DO NOT EXPLAIN THE EXPONENTIAL JUMP IN RAPES / PTSD / DEATHS WITHIN 6 MONTHS OUT OF COUNTRY / SUICIDES / COMPLETE DISINTEGRATION OF ANY RATIONAL THOUGHT PROCESS


Marine Corps Maj Gen Walter Gaskin, who commands US troops in Iraq's Anbar province, said Iraqi security forces need at least two more years of mentoring and support.
Longest training course in history isn't it? They could have got 3 PHD's in the time they've been 'training'. Mind Control not working as expected or what?


After reading this board I wonder if collective madness isn't taking place already. I worry about your big cities America. If I lived there I think a trip to the country might be in order, or else march on Washington... now! We have kids being placed on the Terrorist database just for handing out 9/11 leaflets these days in the UK. Things are beginning to get crazy and these dullards we call police 'think' they are on the side of the righteous.
Good luck everyone. I think we'll need it soon.
Rob O'Loughlin | 07.21.07 - 11:56 am | #
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UK seems to be 1 year ahead of us on its path to total enslavement, the 4 million cameras in London, the RFID, the children fingerprinting and DNA mapping, etc.

When I was there a few months ago, everyone talked in low tones when discussing anything about princess di, 911, or 77.

Take care bro, you be the the Cromwell and we will be the founding fathers...


After reading this board I wonder if collective madness isn't taking place already. I worry about your big cities America. If I lived there I think a trip to the country might be in order, or else march on Washington... now! We have kids being placed on the Terrorist database just for handing out 9/11 leaflets these days in the UK. Things are beginning to get crazy and these dullards we call police 'think' they are on the side of the righteous.
Good luck everyone. I think we'll need it soon.


utter garbage!utter pub talk you colourless nonentity!stop posting trash!yes 911 was an inside job....this is sheer speculation from an unreliable source!it cant be ratified!dickheads....make us a laughing stock
stephen | 07.21.07 - 11:47 am | #

Holy shit, they removed the somewhat trained operatives like Rich, Freddy, Commenter, Amuzed, Steve and have decided to go cheap with the chinese slave auto posters...AWESOME!!!!!!

You know the ones that have no relevance to the thread whatsoever and just drop generic whispers as if we were still under propagated mind control, cool!!!

Guess the funding is getting thin since Cheney used it all for exta time on the "World's Most Dangerous Game" ranch.


utter garbage!

utter pub talk you colourless nonentity!

stop posting trash!

yes 911 was an inside job....this is sheer speculation from an unreliable source!

it cant be ratified!

dickheads....make us a laughing stock


Why Autogenocide?

In a 1978 letter of resignation from his position of president of the UAW, Douglas Fraser wrote, "I believe leaders of the business community, with few exceptions, have chosen to wage a one-sided class war today in our country --a war against working people, the unemployed, the poor, the minorities, the very young and the very old, and even many in the middle class of our society..."

1. Autogenocide has been solving the population problems of the American elite since the beginning of the country. Its been applied in many different forms over the centuries: small pox blankets and starvation for Indians; cannons fired at protesters in the mid-1800's, the disappearances of little towns who resisted selling out to the Railroad Barons; the CIA introduction of crack to ghetto neighborhoods; criminalizing anything to keep the prisons full of members of certain groups; letting Dickensian poverty in its modern form make people suffer and die prematurely. Thus, American Autogenocide is "business as usual, " making American Autogenocide inherently institutional.
2. American autogenocide hides the deficiencies of American-Anglo Saxon (AASAX) capitalism until it controls all the markets of the world. Capitalism, by its nature alone, simply cannot provide enough paying work for all the workers who need work in America. More, the number of jobs are declining while the number of workers is rising. Quite simply: industry has no use for many people.
3. Killing off the excess population is cheaper, easier and faster than having to deal with them. In capitalistic thought and lexicon, this is called "efficiency." Low, non or negative producers are costly for a pay-as-you-go, you're-on-your-own (YOYO), pull-yourself-up-with-your-bootsraps merchant society. People without work or with little work and/or without money, still need food, shelter, emergency help, medical care, so forth. Since the famous "restructuring" of the economy (which is also a restructuring of society back to a close resemblance of the old white patriarchal power hierarchy), more and more people-usually those from the lower tiers of society--can not earn enough money to properly live. This leads to tax money spent on social and emergency services. The rich complain that the tax money could have been better used-used for the priorities of the elite: tax reduction; reduction of capital gains taxes to zero; greater dividends to rich investor; huge salaries and pay packages to CEOs; so forth.
4. As mentioned above, the political and economic elite are restructuring society back to its original institutional, constitutional model of plutocracy and its support model, the elite patriarchal hierarchy of subordination.
5. Autogenocide is utilitarian but the sacrifice of the victims is not for the benefit of the village, but for the benefit of the economic and political elite.
6. Now that the country's infrastructure is in place and hardwired into the federal government, surplus people aren't needed and won't be needed in the future.
7. The wealthy elite and many big businesses are against paying taxes (cuts into their net profits) and governments (local, state and federal) have to raise taxes to support the poor and disenfranchised. Eliminate as much poor as you can so the demand for helping them (and for taxes to do it) drops.
8. Too many unwanted people might figure it out and organize themselves as a force to be reckoned with.
9. Too many people with no hope, no hope for the future and nothing to lose can result in organizing, protests, strikes and rage-fueled riots.
10. Too many poor, disenfranchised and/or minorities with votes threaten the established power and wealth structures. Within 50 years, it is projected that there will be more minorities than whites. This new majority could take out the elite, white patriarchal system. This makes the current autogenocide a "preemptive" genocide. It guarantees continued power and wealth of the elite by keeping the majority of votes in the hands of whites.
11. It is negative population control. America is running out of room for its current population which is continually expanding. Over population can result in greater pollution, social suffering and epidemics. In the mind of patriarchal leaders, somebody has to be removed, so the powerless-the people few will speak up for-are quietly and invisibly removed.
12. Autogenocide can remove enough people to let the earth heal so the rich and powerful can continue plundering it and enslaving the world's populations.
13. Symbolically and literally scapegoats and punishes the powerless for the deeds of the real culprits, the ruling and financial elite. Vents the anger and frustration of the remaining villagers at someone "safe" to blame.
14. It is a result of the natural institutional racism of the System.
15. It is a predictable result of corrupt patriarchal power.
16. It is modern witch-burning. Male economics has historically struggled with the problem of unemployed women and women without male sponsors. Patriarchal societies have historically responded by killing/burning them as witches. It is estimated that ten million people, mostly women, were killed as witches from 1400-1750 and most of these killings were related to economics, patriarchal control of females and the use of scapegoats to soothe the village's anger/tension over corruption, plagues, wars, so forth.
17. Arrogance and racism.
18. Pleasure and the thrill of being able to kill and get away with it.
19. Greed and selfishness.
20. Entrenches more power and wealth in the hands of elite.
21. Shapes reality and the country to the elite's patriarchal, market ideology, will and dreams.
21. Reduces the numbers in slums. Slums are incubators for plagues and civil wars or civil rights movements.
22. Thins out the middle-class. As with all patriarchal hierarchies, there are sub-hierarchies within them. Examples are the hierarchy of white women, the hierarchy of minorities (by skin color, gender, age, so forth). For example, the federal government has several categories for Hispanics, including "White Hispanic." There is also a sub-hierarchy for the middle-class.


And the last step to make American Autogenocide perpetual????
http://www.signs-of-the- times.or...an+Autogenocide
9. Denial. Because American Autogenocide is carried out in the abstract, thus the surreal, it is hard to prove. That's the evil beauty of it. The deed doesn't lead directly back to the leaders, but to the village itself. The blood is shared collectively and equally in the village because it is collective murder: it happened in a "democracy" (even if its mostly rich people directing it) and thus, the crime is owned by the whole village.

This phenomenon of community evil spreads the blood around so thinly that the remaining people don't see it on their hands. People who did not stand up against the autogenocide are as equally guilty as the leaders who caused it. This makes a village of denial and this enables the autogenocide to continue.

More, the corporate owned media ignores or downplays the suffering and death. These are forms of denial because hiding is a form of denial. If the media is someday confronted about the autogenocide and feels it has to "cover" itself, then it will work to deny the holocaust that happened under its watch.

Graduate students, organizations and others are having difficulty performing mortality studies (especially those related to the poor and/or minorities and singe women) on the local and state level. More, they are having a hard time getting any completed studies results reported by the media, including the internet. This makes connecting other studies and statistics difficult, if not impossible to prove the massive autogenocide. Hiding and distorting mortality rates plus preventing scholars, statisticians and other professional people from adding up the mortality numbers of other American communities and cities keeps the autogenocide invisible, thus denied.

Genocide is never directly traceable to the leaders who wanted it. This makes it easy for the elite, politicians, captains of industry and other instigators to deny it. Again, to this day, there is no physical proof (papers, orders) to link Hitler to the Nazi holocaust. Underlings gave the orders and executed the genocide, but everyone knows that orders for the holocaust came from the top.


OK, let us now move on to the more sinister of the 9-step process for US Autogenocide...Extermination:
http://www.signs-of-the- times.or...an+Autogenocide
8. Extermination. The New Romans use the modern tactic of Silent Siege (Silent Slaughter) , which indirectly kills people. Isolate and starve people economically, physically, mentally, psychologically, materially, artistically, financially, spiritually, socially, and culturally (except for the nationalism and christian cultures that are toxic in themselves), and predictably, people will die of premature deaths from the stress caused by the isolation and starvation. Its not immediate death like the Nazi Holocaust, but it achieves the same result.

The media continues to keep the autogenocide hidden.

High stress factors lead to high mortality rates. Unleash ruthless, deadly social forces against certain individuals, groups, neighborhoods and/or communities and they will begin to implode. Every social worker, sociologist, psychologist, doctor, nurse, police, urban planner, politician, historian, military strategist, so forth knows this.

Add in all the factors of Stages of 7 and 8, and the body bags really begin to add up.

There is a scientific name for the "weathering away" of poor people by stress: AXIOM OF BIOLOGICAL STRESS FROM POVERTY. I believe that this name limits the scope of death by stress in the American landscape. The proper name to describe suffering and mortality should be: AXIOM OF BIOLOGICAL STRESS FROM OPPRESSION.

The victims are always blamed ("poor life choices" when they had no choices or only a choice of bad choices). They are blamed for their stress when the stressors are external and almost all are socially engineered, and socially engineered to kill.

When safety nets are gutted and politicians/economists/business leaders/sociologists/urban planners/scientists know it will result in the deaths of countless citizens, that is called socially engineering and "framing" social forces to target and kill the Untermenschen.

When politicians won't or refuse enact national healthcare insurance, knowing full well that it will result in premature death for a large number of people with no or low socio-economic value, that is called socially engineering autogenocide. It doesn't matter that the politicians are owned by pharmaceutical companies and private health care groups through campaign donations. When you enact legislation knowing full well that it will lead to enormous amounts of preventable death and you vote for it, you are committing autogenocide.


Oh I got it... this is when you got hit with the Pentagon's Bobby Fischer, Mel Gibson, John Forbes Nash Anti-Semitism Bomb...
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FascistUSA, AMEN! TOO MANY IN CONGRESS ARE AIPAC BOUGHT OFF AND CARE ONLY FOR AIPAC AND FUCKING WARMONGERING ISRAEL! IT IS HIGH TIME, THEY PUT AMERICA FIRST AND NOT FUCKING AIPAC NOR ISRAEL! This is BULLSHIT AND TREASON TO Let these firefighter's die and NOT be able to sue the city of NY nor sue fucking mass murdering Rudy Guilani either! I can't believe that piece of SHIT, treasonous bastard even has the nerve to run for President but the rest of field ALSO ARE OUT AND OUT TRAITORS TOO! Except for maybe Ron Paul and Dennis! Key word here is MAYBE! F*CK THE PURE EVIL SATANIC NEW WORLD ORDER AND BOTH BUSH'S AND BOTH CLINTON'S AND KERRY TOO! They ALL SUCK BIG TIME AND ALL, ALL ARE ON THE SAME FUCKING SIDE, NAIVE GULLIBLE SHEEPLE! WE NEED A 2ND AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND SOON!
9-11 TRUTHER! | 04.25.07 - 10:30 pm | #


Or this girl???

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Vince, YOUR a TOTAL moronic, gullible, sheeple,TOTALLY! THIS fight is NOT about lib's versus conservative's nor left versus right, YOU IDIOT but about patriotic American's fighting against TRAITORS FROM BOTH SIDES OF AISLE YOU MORONIC SHEEPLE! GET A F*CKING CLUE! 9-11 WAS,WAS an inside job along with ALL the other BOGUS 'TERRORISTS ACTS" TOO! The CIA and Mossad CREATED AND MANTAIN THE DAMN BOGUS BOOGEYMEN "ALQUEDA" YOU IDIOT! "WAR ON TERRORISM' IS PURE BOGUS, PURE BOGUS AND DONE BY NWO, YOU IDIOT! And NO, I NEVER want Marshall Law, you idiot! It is YOUR FACIST MASS MURDERING PRESIDENT THAT YOU PROBABLY VOTED FOR TWICE, THAT INTENDS TO HAVE MARSHALL LAW AFTER HE AND HIS CRONIES DO ANOTHER 9-11 TYPE ATTACK AGAIN ON AMERICA OR WORSE BESIDES PURPOSEDLY COLLAPSING OUR DOLLAR, AND BY THE WAY, MOST R'S LIKE "BIG GOV'T" WHEN THEY MILK US TAXPAYER'S AND/OR OTHERWISE "MILK" Big gov't for what THEY can get out of it but when it comes to gov't helping little guy or gal, NO way! That is FACT! What are you going to do moronic stupid, gullible sheeple when fascist mass murdering Bush calls out foreign troops on YOUR ass and tries to put YOU into one of those 800 FEMA camps? And YES some Dem's SUCK TOO!
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What happened to this girl???

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To say this Catholic school is TOTALLY HYPOCRITAL, is an understatement! First they ask teacher's to discuss the issue of shootings, which this teacher was trying to show if those victim's had been armed, shooter would have NOT murdered all those kids. And furthermore, to have a Catholic school be HYPOCRITES since Pope and Catholic church KNOWINGLY passed around those pedofile priests and did NOTHING but move them to unknowingly parrishes is mind boggling! Not to mention the Pope's recent decision to ask for "advice" none other then mass murdering, war criminal, total traitor Henry Kissinger for 'advice" when Pope knows Kissinger is a mass murderer and war crminal is beyond belief! What "advide" did the Pope hope to get from the war criminal? What BS by this school who tries to portray as being so damn innocent! Give me a break! And NO, I am not just bashing Catholic's here either!
9-11 truther, Sue | 04.23.07 - 10:10 pm | #


More "Steve" fun posts...

In the case of Ron Paul, your gonna see at least a few million raised by poor sheeople that give every last dime they have in hopes of saving america, only to discover that Ron Paul and some of his advertisers make some nice profit, but the people who put their trust in him get nothing but a false dream.
Steve | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 8:08 pm | #

I knew 9/11 was control demolition long before I ever met Alex and there's a new thing on the Internet called "SEARCH ENGINES" so that people can find out all kinds of information even without having to pay Alex a membership fee.
Steve | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 2:03 pm | #

And I'm sure that Alex knows he'll always have his following of loyal sheeople, that will never question his motives, but will follow him to the pits of hell.
Steve | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 1:52 pm | #

And you won't find God on some cultist page written by Alex Jones, because his goal is to make merchandise out of you by taking some truth, adding a lot of lies and twisting all up so forsake the true God and bow down and worship him.
Steve | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 10:31 am | #

Alex already knows the elections are fixed so why would he mislead you all into thinking Ron Paul can become president? Why does Alex advertise Ron Paul so much??? OH YEAH, ALEX IS IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING ADVERTISING.
Steve | Homepage | 07.10.07 - 6:57 am | #
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Wow good thing the revisionists have not infiltrated this site otherwise it might be hard to be sane.


Back to Autogenocide....Are we currently in the phase before EXTERMINATION????
http://www.signs-of-the- times.or...an+Autogenocide
7. Preparation. The village, victims, survivors and those in power are prepared for the genocide.

The autogenocide has to be conceived in invisibility and executed in invisibility. Suffering and resulting premature deaths have to blamed on something else: diseases, violence, hunger, homelessness, hopelessness, accidents, suicides, murders, so forth.

No one is going to visibly agree or assist in the holocaust. This means that its all done in the abstract. Welfare "reform" laws and other laws are hyped as "tough love" that means, in Orwellian or Alice-in-Wonderland language, that powerless people are being left to their own devices to survive without resources or enough resources to survive or have any kind of a quality of life.

Social forces from Mandora's Box are released from legal, third-parties. This includes legislation, non-legislation, bureaucracies and male institutions.

The groups to be removed are isolated. If they were isolated before, they are made more isolated

The young men are taken out of of the Targeted Neighborhoods/Groups. Before any kind of genocide can be carried out, the men of "battle age" (15-45) are always removed. Since the beginning of history, this has been the standard practice.

It also explains why laws and incarceration in America are aimed at imprisoning and/or disenfranchising men from groups scheduled to be removed. The major population of prisons in America are packed with poor and/or minority males of "prime" age. More and more of these males are being imprisoned all the time, thus emptying the ghettos, reservations, barrios and poor rural areas of men.

With males not around to physically, financially and emotionally protect their women, children, relatives and neighbors, these people are easy targets to disappear.

Social safety nets and jobs programs are removed or altered. This forces poverty, reinforces poverty and depresses the quality of life to the point people start dying in record numbers.

Racism and disenfranchises women/minorities/disabled from decent work so they're ushered into work that doesn't pay a living wage, plus workers without social power are many times forced to work dangerous jobs.

Public transportation in "red zones" does not help the people get to other areas of the cities so they can get better work. Medical insurance is impossible to afford or get from the low-wage jobs the disenfranchised work.

People are pushed deeper into debt and other crises like homelessness, hunger, disease, despair.

Civil wars between sub-groups are started by the elite and media to keep them not only isolated, divided and conquered, but to keep them in so much chaos that these groups have no chance to confederate and become a big enough political power to stop the suffering and deaths.

Schools in "useless eater" areas are purposely underfunded, thus bringing down the quality of life for individuals and communities. Quality of Life is very important: read on.

Quality of Life affects Life Outcome. If Quality of Life is high, people are usually healthier and live long. If Quality of Life is low or non-existent, many people will get sick and usually die from premature death. Bring down the overall quality of life in individuals/communities/groups and make sure that Quality of Life does not go up even an increment, and people will start dying in droves. Every professional politician knows this.


The 54th Mistress of America's Mayor, Rudy Giuliani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...h? v=_VFEj8yeBuI


BUSH IS OUT OF SURGERY, DID HE TAKE BACK PRESIDENTIAL POWER?????


I don't know if this article is for or against Ron Paul but it seems that the NYTs is going to attack him tommorrow.
http:// www.editorandpublisher.co...t_id=1003614862
Sony | 07.21.07 - 10:53 am | #

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Since Guiliani pays over 100 million to NYT, you can bet it will be as hard a hit piece [without overtly seeming to be a hit piece] as possible.

But make no mistake this is PROGRESS!

First they ignore you

Then they ridicule you

Then they fight you

Then you win.

-Gandhi


3. Just a plain jerk!
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 2:13 am | #
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I actually might have a problem arguing that point, touche


I don't know if this article is for or against Ron Paul but it seems that the NYTs is going to attack him tommorrow.
http:// www.editorandpublisher.co...t_id=1003614862


sane, Your video about the owl was f*cking STUPID and childish!
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 10:46 am | #
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You gotta be kidding me, that is your only direct difinitive criticism????

WTF, can you just answer this question I posed earlier to shed light on your preposterous allegations?
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sane, I am NOT a "hate sniper" sane! Maybe YOU like the fact that Zionists murdered American's and JEWS too, i.e. radiated thousands of Jewish kids,i.e. ringworm scandal, Lavon affair, U.S.S. Liberty but I DON"T! Your obviously no.1 Zionist or 2. Jewish who doesn't realize the difference between the two! 3. Just a plain jerk! I was wondering when you were going to get back from vacation and clog up message boards, with thousands of posts!
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 2:13 am | #

Let me ask you a question...

Is this man a zionist, a nazi, or a member of something superior to both?

http://www.theledger.com/article.../707070383/ 1326

something that is so powerful that it allows him to change uniforms from nazi to zionist to member of the AMA while the groups he helped create get left to die as he continues the NWO master plan.
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 2:18 am | #
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WELL???????????

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sane, Your video about the owl was f*cking STUPID and childish!


sane, Unlike YOU, I put America FIRST, NOT ISRAEL! Unlike YOU, I realize how pure evil ZIONISTS ARE, NOT JEWS BUT ZIONISTS, DO YOU HEAR ME, SANE??? ZIONISTS, NOT JEWS! ZIONISTS WHO HAVE MURDERED JEWS TOO! ZIONISTS WHO MURDERED AMERICAN SERVICEMEN ON THE U.S.S. LIBERTY AND TRIED TO BOMB OUR U.S. EMBASSY TOO AND WHO HAVE SPIED ON AMERICA, ETC.,ETC.ETC. BUT ALL THESE THINGS ARE OK WITH YOU, OBVIOUSLY! BECAUSE YOUR A ZIONIST TOO!
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 10:41 am | #
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oooh yeahhhh more all caps, more all caps. you know how to post, yeah baby...

for the record, please explain how calling israel a puppet proxy state that bows to the same elites that the us foreign policy does has me put israel ahead of the greatest sovereign nation in the history of the world...the good ol US of A????????

How come I answer all of your questions yet you cannot answer one of mine?


Oops-#6 is for you 911-Faux Toofer...
http://www.signs-of-the- times.or...an+Autogenocide
6. Polarization. Extremists drive the groups apart. Hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. Extreme right groups and representatives target moderates to intimidate and silence the center.

Privileged, educated males from the extreme right start writing books like the "Bell Curve" (Charles Murray, Jr. and Richard Herrnstein) to "prove" that certain groups are subhuman or as the Nazis called them, "Untermenshen."

This separates the favored groups over the ones selected for permanent removal. The polarization forces the people who are safe from genocide to side with the government if they want to remain comfortable and/or live. Remember, anyone who doesn't agree with the American federal government is considered a "traitor" and traitors are scorned, ridiculed, hated, publicly denounced, humiliated and called "Benedict Arnold."

The middle-class try to stay "neutral," but by their silence and acceptance, they are on the side of autogenocide. The middle-class has to stay silent. Their privileged way of life for them and their children depends on this silence. In America, anyone can "fall from grace" and the best way to do this is to be a person of conscience and do or say something against the status quo.


sane, Unlike YOU, I put America FIRST, NOT ISRAEL! Unlike YOU, I realize how pure evil ZIONISTS ARE, NOT JEWS BUT ZIONISTS, DO YOU HEAR ME, SANE??? ZIONISTS, NOT JEWS! ZIONISTS WHO HAVE MURDERED JEWS TOO! ZIONISTS WHO MURDERED AMERICAN SERVICEMEN ON THE U.S.S. LIBERTY AND TRIED TO BOMB OUR U.S. EMBASSY TOO AND WHO HAVE SPIED ON AMERICA, ETC.,ETC.ETC. BUT ALL THESE THINGS ARE OK WITH YOU, OBVIOUSLY! BECAUSE YOUR A ZIONIST TOO!


Maybe because you just send spam of nazi propaganda that insinuates the jews are behind every smidgen of evil for the last 6,000 years.
sane
sane, No. 1, I was NOT talking to YOU! No.2, I do NOT spam and it is NOT Nazi propaganda, and I do NOT insinuate Jews are behind ANYTHING but ZIONISTS, WHICH TO YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW THE F*CKING DIFFERENCE! No.3. It was wonderful when you were on vacation! No.4. STOP ACCUSING ME OF BEING "ANTI-SEMITIC" FOR STANDING UP FOR AMERICA FIRST AND NOT ISRAEL! STOP PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH ALSO! AND STOP SAYING I HATE JEWS WHEN IT IS ZIONISTS I HATE! AND FINALLY, GET A FUCKING LIFE AND STOP POSTING HERE 24/7 AND LET OTHERS POST HERE!
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 10:38 am | #
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I love it when you use all caps, the screaming is so exiting...

Now on to more about AutoGenocide...this may assist you 911-Faux Toofer...
http://www.signs-of-the- times.or...an+Autogenocide
5. Organization. Because autogenocide has to be perceived as non-existent, it has to remain invisible. Thus, it has to be organized and spread by surreal methods such as symbols, innuendoes, urban myths, propaganda, other forms of non-direct, non-verbal communication and/or by "cocktails" (mixtures) of some or all methods. Messages for organization, propaganda, improved propaganda, so forth, for the autogenocide are presented and distributed regularly or daily on the internet. Gop.com and the conservative "think-tanks" are prime conveyers.

Right-wing radio, "think-tanks" and other conservative/patriarchal organizations begin to verbally attack and demonize the targeted people, but they never infer to their permanent removal. This would make the autogenocide transparent. Still, these organizations and institutions, plus the corporate-owned media, purposely spread xenophobia throughout the land.

Local, state, and national politicians begin demonizing the citizens to be culled. They write and pass legislation to start the Siege. They try to become blissfully ignorant of the suffering and death and even when they know the truth, they respond by doing nothing (premeditated non legislation). Politicians do this because this is not what the hidden elite want (their reasons will be discussed later).

The media, owned, dominated and run by members of the elite continue to hide the truth from the village or minimize it when the truth comes to fore.

Support systems are taken away while others are bribed. Government help is cut off as much as possible. "Crises" are created (like a war, threats of terrorism, a virtual war, energy shortages) so public money must first be spent on those things. This purposely drains the public treasury of money and resources to try to save the unwanted.

Religion is bribed from speaking up by offering them juicy government contracts to privatize "charity." This swells their coffers and at the same time, hires members who will faithfully tithe part of their salaries back into the churches' coffers. The Christian "standard" for tithing is ten percent. More, evangelists get the bonuses of having captive audiences of desperate people to sell their religion and will to. Many of the extreme poor end up trading their souls for a bowl of soup and a sandwich at government-funded Christian soup kitchens and/or homeless shelters.

The internal police is built-up ("Homeland Security") and files are maintained on every citizen they can build a file on (so far its about 256 million Americans). The ruling patriarchs keep information on everyone just in case someone might decide to say something public about the autogenocide. The information kept by the government is used to Bully, Blackmail or Buy people (including politicians and victims) to keep their heads down, their eyes closed and their mouths shut.

A note about "Super Censuses": It helps those behind autogenocide determine who is to be "cleansed"/culled. Intrinsic things are factored in: gender, race, age, ethnicity, disabilities/physical handicaps, family lineage, socio-economic standing, perceived physical beauty/desireability (particularly for females), membership in "approved" religions, perceived power and/or potential, amount of loyalty/subjugation to authority established in patriarchal structures and systems, so forth.


Maybe because you just send spam of nazi propaganda that insinuates the jews are behind every smidgen of evil for the last 6,000 years.
sane
sane, No. 1, I was NOT talking to YOU! No.2, I do NOT spam and it is NOT Nazi propaganda, and I do NOT insinuate Jews are behind ANYTHING but ZIONISTS, WHICH TO YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW THE F*CKING DIFFERENCE! No.3. It was wonderful when you were on vacation! No.4. STOP ACCUSING ME OF BEING "ANTI-SEMITIC" FOR STANDING UP FOR AMERICA FIRST AND NOT ISRAEL! STOP PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH ALSO! AND STOP SAYING I HATE JEWS WHEN IT IS ZIONISTS I HATE! AND FINALLY, GET A FUCKING LIFE AND STOP POSTING HERE 24/7 AND LET OTHERS POST HERE!


sane, Do you have a life? While I come here daily your here 24/7! Do you have a life?
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 10:31 am | #
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I am trying to guarantee a long life by demolishing the lies that enslave us all.

A life spent battling the 100 year multi-trillion dollar dis info and re-education program that will enslave us and the next 10 generations of humans throughout the world.


Sees Things, Would you PLEASE email me? I have asked you several times, why haven't you? Please do!
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 10:29 am | #

Maybe because you just send spam of nazi propaganda that insinuates the jews are behind every smidgen of evil for the last 6,000 years.


sane, Do you have a life? While I come here daily your here 24/7! Do you have a life?


If you think AIPAC or Israel or Zionists are more powerful than GE/Raytheon/Halliburton/Rand/Monsanto/BP/ ExxonMobile you definitely need your head examined!
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 10:27 am | #

It is as preposterous as thinking that hitler was more powerful than the vatican, or that al-qaeda is more powerful than our cia covert ops, or that vietnam was the biggest threat to our national security.

keep your eyes on the All Seeing Evil Eye!


Sees Things, Would you PLEASE email me? I have asked you several times, why haven't you? Please do!


GE Founders:
Thomas Edison
Edwin J. Houston
Elihu Thomson

Corporate directors
James Cash, Jr.
William Castell
Ann Fudge
Claudio Gonzalez
Susan Hockfield
Jeffrey Immelt
Andrea Jung
Alan Lafley
Robert Lane
Ralph Larsen
Rochelle Lazarus
Sam Nunn
Roger Penske
Robert Swieringa
Douglas Warner
Bob Wright

Primary business units
GE Commercial Finance
GE Consumer Finance
GE Healthcare
GE Industrial
GE Infrastructure
GE Transportation
NBC Universal
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Iif you want to know who has the most to gain from a war with Iran...Here ya go, just one of the cornerstones of the Military Industrial Complex!!!!!!

If you think AIPAC or Israel or Zionists are more powerful than GE/Raytheon/Halliburton/Rand/Monsanto/BP/ ExxonMobile you definitely need your head examined!


Bush's NCLB Act does football...
http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/ ncl...nclb_sports.htm


Bush jokes, Crowd laughes, Girls cries...
http:// video1.washingtontimes.co...ident_bush.html


Wal-Mart being used for continuity of government

AJ talked about this yesterday and I wanted to point out some more obvious facilities and how they seem to have popped up out of nowhere all over major traffic hubs across this country....

OUTLET MALLS
Usually only one way in and one way out, unless it is a super big "steal all your cash and let you rot" outlet mall where multiple traffic entrances are allowed because these will be prisoner transport stations. Go ahead and get some aerial views from Google satellite on how perfect these detention locations are for mass roundup of humans.

Also, do you notice the moats around the reinforced concrete structures?

And who provides all the security equipment for these [soon to be death camps] malls:
The U.S. controls around 80% of the security and safety equipment market and is a major supplier of high-quality systems for vehicle, fire and burglar alarms, CCTV and video surveillance, access control, metal detection and x-ray equipment. Japan, Korea, Taiwan and China manufacture a vast array of alarms, CCTV and telephone entry systems, marketed at very reasonable prices to commercial and residential customers.

And who is the number one security supplier: GE/NBC/MSNBC

That is right!!! The same MSNBC that plays eight hours a day of "LOCK-UP" so that we will think the concentration camps we are sent to represent normal human life!
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WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the same GE that...
Works with Monsanto to fuck with ethenol corn and mutated bees.
Is a suspect into the funding of the VT false flag terror attack via their pharmeceutical subsidiaries
Major player in global nuclear weaponry
Major player in the financial bancrupting of USA via GE Money

Other fine subsidiaries that accelerate the trip to our demise:
General Electric Industrial Controls Systems, Inc.
General Electric Railcar Services Corp. [cool! they do not need to subcontract the guillotine railcars, yipppeeeee]
GE Commercial Aviation Services
GE Capital International Services [#1 BPO for outsourcing of American jobs to India, yeeeehaaaaw]
GE Healthcare Life Sciences
GE Healthcare Surgery
GE Healthcare is the new owner of the IDX tracking and mapping of all humans via health information

There are at least 200 more subsidiaries of this fucking monster!


>>BENJAMIN BUFORD ARTICLES
http://benjaminfulford.com/ index...dexEnglish.html

Anti-Semitism is anti-Satanism [curiously removed from the site????]

The New Cambrian explosion

How the Celtic peoples were enslaved by Babylonian tyrants

The secret history of the Freemasons in Japan


DISAPPEARED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...h? v=3QyCTQGptb4
a project by Visible Collective/Naeem Mohaiemen that uses films, installations, & lectures to trace migration impulses, hyphenated identities and post-9/11 security panic. The majority of migrants detained in recent security hysteria were from the invisible underclass of cities like New York-- the shadow citizens who drive our taxis, deliver our food, clean our restaurant tables, and sell fruit, coffee, and newspapers. The only time we "see" them is when we glance at the hack license in the taxi partition, or the ID card around the neck of a vendor. When detained and deported, they cease to exist in the American consciousness. This desire to create a sinister outsider with dubious "loyalty" has a long pedigree, witness the World War I incarceration of German-Americans; the 1919 detention of 10,000 immigrants in the Anarchist bomb scare; the 1941 internment of 110,000 Japanese-Americans; the trial and execution of the Rosenbergs; the HUAC "red scare" under Senator McCarthy; the harrassment of Deacons For Defense; the COINTELPRO infiltration of Black Panthers; and the continuing rise of the Minutemen militia.


How scared are we??? Do you think the founding fathers would have reacted the same way???? This is a fun elitist trick used all the time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O...related& search=

Hey let's fucking scare the Bohemian Grove Owl and see how annorexic it gets!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...related& search=


Alex talks a lot about the dehuminization that is apparent throughout the US [stepping over dying bodies, etc.] . We need to understand that Alex is letting us know that this is a major piece of the overall puzzle in total enslavement. Again I go back to this important document....
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NINE STAGES OF AMERICAN AUTOGENOCIDE
http://www.signs-of-the- times.or...an+Autogenocide
4. Dehumanization. Dehumanization overcomes the normal human revulsion against murder. One group denies the humanity of the other group. People to be destroyed are justified/equated as lesser forms of life. They are scapegoated as factors for lower quality of village life caused by political and economic corruption.

All the genocide propaganda comes from the conservative right in America, although it is silently supported by some members of the left. The representatives of the old order never stop demonizing people/victims that don't fit perfectly into the white patriarchal power model, the needs of industry and/or are a real/potential threat to established white patriarchal power.

The right-wing politicians, with right-wing "think-tanks" institutions and the media demonize the poor/minorities/independent women and spread patriarchal justification that these groups deserve "what" they get because they are dragging the rest of the villagers down.

Institutions that exist solely to promote the status quo (GOP, conservative "think-tanks," conservative media institutions, federalist societies, so forth) start executing skewed studies and statistical surveys whose conclusions always point in the favor of dehumanizing the groups that are to be permanently eliminated.

The media starts releasing and recycling the "conclusions" of the studies and surveys, while all the time, never questions their authenticity and procedure, nor probes to find out who funded it and why. More, the media is always blissfully ignorant of all the negative, hurricane-strength social forces it unleashes and creates when it broadcasts the dehumanizing information.

The media constantly reports the rise of bastard babies, violence, HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, criminal activities, sexually transmitted diseases and other diseases: diseases associated with sloth, sexual promiscuous, filthy living conditions, thus connecting the targeted people as unhuman. The media either portrays these people as dangerous and as "carriers of disease," that threaten the larger society, or the media helps the village forget these people by ignoring them in their newscasts. This has been what's happening lately. By ignoring the other humans of the group, the media has dehumanized them because if these people were important to society, the media would be reporting on them and favorably about them like they do the middle and upper classes.

Conservative politicians jump on the bandwagon and denounce the traitorous citizens who "refuse" to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and join the homogenized, "melting pot," American family of workers. "Self-reliance" and "self-initiative" is stressed and the causes of un- or under-employment or the real amount of jobs available (or not available) is ever addressed.

The stronger group denies the humanity of the other group. The stronger group's rhetoric segues into arguing/selling the idea that the people to be eliminated from are less human and more like animals or insects, particularly (economic) leeches and (cockroach) people.

Welfare recipients are demonized by being called "welfare queens" by politicians and the media. Black males are demonized by being portrayed by the media as drug dealers, pimps and other kinds of criminals. White trash is made fun of. Jerry Springer and South Park are good examples of this, and any kind of fringe group are always the target of white comedians.

In Mel Brook's movie, The History of the World, Part I, there is a scene of Roman senators discussing the probability of funding housing for the poor when they all reach a conclusion: F**k the Poor! The Symbolization for genocide is everywhere in the American tapestry and it has been for a long time. Demonization and Symbolism for genocide were masked in Mel Brook's remarks in a 1983 movie that has been seen billions of times. Any time a powerless and/or helpless member of the human community is demonized by forces greater than them, it is a part of the symbolization process.

Laziness is considered worse than a disease in a society that continuously promotes a work ethic that primarily benefits well-connected white males. Laziness is connected to moral diseases (sloth, shamefulness, immorality, drug taking, drinking, bad health, so forth). Through twisted metamorphoses of the symbolic/symbiotic connection of those who don't work (for any reason) or are poor for any reason (because the world's richest nation is sold as the "land of opportunity" where "everyone" can get rich if they work hard enough), autogenocide is righteously sold and justified by Symbolism.


From page 47..........
Michael D. | 07.21.07 - 9:09 am | #
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Oh yeah, I think there are like 100 other examples of the Steve bait and switch technique.

Steve, did you find your moral compass yet???

blast from the past concerning infiltration and informants by COINTELPRO:
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/ co...lreportIIId.htm
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Read it or experience it in full 3-D reality....The choice is yours!


More info on Carmina Burana:

http://www.classical.net/music/c...cb/ carmina.html
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Lyrics and their origin
The poems include the freshness of medieval love lyrics, exuberance of the drinking song, the zest of the sinner's 'confessions', the wild humour of the hymns to gambling and gluttony, the stoic litany to Lady Luck ('Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi') which Orff chose to open and close his score. Sex is also a dominant theme in many of the songs. The Richard Hickox production has further details in the cover notes.

Who were these richly gifted poets? They called themselves 'goliards' (defrocked monks and minstrels). Traditionally they have been identified as 'vagantes' (vagrant students, vagabond monks and minor clerics), said to have been 'better known for their rioting, gambling and intemperance than for their scholarship'. Yet whatever their social status, their artistic and technical skill seem to place them among the clerical and academic elite of the age.
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Cover Notes
Carmina Burana was an instantaneous success at its first performance at Frankfurt am Main n 1937 and for the fifty years since it has never faltered in its standing as one of the most universally popular works produced by a 20th century "contemporary" composer. Carl Orff (1895-1982), born into an old Bavarian military family, found himself lionised overnight at the age of 42 after years as a teacher of music. Although he was to consolidate his reputation with a wide-ranging canon of music, distinctively unlike anyone else's, over the subsequent forty years, he was never able to escape the cachet of "the Carmina Burana composer". Orff conceived his "scenic cantata" for the stage. His explicit ambition for it was "total theatre" in which words, music and movement were co-ordinated to create an effect of all-round involvement and it was in the idiom of the theatre that its early performances took place. Gradually, however, it became the province of purely choral forces and it is in concert performance that the work is familiar nowadays. For his texts Orff took 25 verses from a collection of 13th century poems discovered in the early 20th century in the abbey of Benediktbeuren near Munich, his native city. Carmina Burana in Latin means Songs of Beuren.

Variously written by itinerant scholars in low Latin and early German, the poems mingle Christian piety and pagan hedonism in a spirit of simplicity and unselfconscious directness which were intrinsic in the medieval approach to mortality. They amount to an uninhibited celebration of the pleasures of life, and, particularly, love. Bed and bawdiness figures strongly in them. The work is divided into three parts under the titles of "Spring", "In the Tavern" and "Love". The verses themselves are a paeon to the delights those words evoke. Orff's settings of them throb with a sense of youth and exuberance unshadowed by the sobrieties of moral rectitude or religious moderation. Throughout all his music he made a virtue of simplicity and an incessant rhythmic pulse and stylised configurations of harmonies, structured in massive blocks for large orchestral and choral forces, are the interacting elements which distinguish Carmina Burana. The exhiliration his music generates is that of both the flesh and the spirit.
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I personally have loved this music since I was 12, but it is important to know that we are listening to pagan poems set to aryan nationalistic beats similar to Wagner's.


Maybe some of you used to have an ability to think a little bit, but got into some kind of accident in which your minds were completely destroyed, whatever the case may be it's pretty sad that so many people would put their trust in a phony politician that's taking you all for a ride.
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Steve, you are such a disapointment. Just when I thought you could be rational, you go back to being a n ass. Go away, you are not welcome here.
Since we are so stupid, leave us to our foolishness in peace. The human spirit must have hope. I too know Ron Paul has no chance, even if nominated they would kill him and/or diebold him out of the race.
Point being you don't belong here and are not conducive to giving the masses hope.
Fuck off and die you government fool.
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hey buddy, any chance you can show the same courtesy by answering the same question you posed to me?????


A familiar classical piece is often played to drum up emotions. It is Carl Orff's Carmina Burana.

Just as stimulating as the music, are the lyrics. Here is some background info and 10% of the lyrics translated to English:
http://classicalmusic.about.com/ ...mina_burana.htm
Background of Carmina Burana
Composed in 1936, Orff's Carmina Burana (Songs of the Beuern) can be heard on stages, televisions, and silver screens across the globe. The song's text, Carmina Burana, was discovered in 1803 at the Monastery of Benediktbeuren near Munich as part of a collection of Latin poetry written by the goliards dating back to the 12th century. Written exclusively for entertainment, the Carmina Burana confronts issues similar to the issues we face today: love, sex, drinking, gambling, fate, and fortune. Because of their intended use, the text was written in vernacular Latin, medieval French, and German so as to be easily understood and accessible. When composing Carmina Burana, Carl Orff selected 24 of the poems and arranged them by thematic content: Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi (Fortune, Empress of the World), Primo vere (Springtime), In taberna (In the tavern), and Cours d’amour (The Court of Love).
Notes on O Fortuna
O Fortuna (O Fortune), undoubtedly the most famous piece of this work, is recognized by millions of people all over the world. I consider it to be one of those unknown-but-known works. Orff brilliantly captures the meaning and nature of the Wheel of Fortune. Opening with a pounding timpani and large chorus, the listener is introduced to the Wheel's magnitude, while the haunting/foreboding text and melody sitting atop a river of endlessly repeating orchestral accompaniment, mimicks its constant rotation.

O Fortune,
like the moon
you are changeable,
ever waxing
and waning;
hateful life
first oppresses
and then soothes
as fancy takes it;
poverty
and power
it melts them like ice.

Fate - monstrous
and empty,
you whirling wheel,
you are malevolent,
well-being is vain
and always fades to nothing,
shadowed
and veiled
you plague me too;
now through the game
I bring my bare back
to your villainy.

Fate is against me
in health
and virtue,
driven on
and weighted down,
always enslaved.
So at this hour
without delay
pluck the vibrating strings;
since Fate
strikes down the string man,
everyone weep with me!


of course 9/11 was an enemy attack, the question lies in whether some of those enemy elements are in positions within our own government


Bush cedes power to VP during colonoscopy
Cheney temporarily in charge; screening procedure described as routine

CAMP DAVID, Md. - President Bush transferred the powers of the presidency to Vice President Dick Cheney on Saturday just before being sedated for a routine screening to detect colon cancer.

With a signed letter to the leaders of the House and Senate, Bush temporarily transferred his authority at 7:16 a.m. EDT to Cheney, who is at his home on the Chesapeake Bay in St. Michaels, Md., about 30 miles east of Washington.

The vice president is now serving as acting president, White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said.


Guys read the whole frickin thing, this shit needs to be exposed big time. It was the reason for much of the COINTELPRO activity, and the major reason for the genocides we support accross the globe...soon to escalate at home!
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http://www.signs-of-the- times.or...an+Autogenocide

THE NINE STAGES OF AMERICAN AUTOGENOCIDE

Gregory H. Stanton presented his model of Eight Stages of Genocide to the Yale University Center for International and Area Studies in 1998. It is a fine model, but he missed the biggest and most important stage: The Decision to Kill. Whether singular or collective, the decision starts the genocide.

1. Decision. Like other forms of genocide, autogenocide is a process started from the top down. The planning begins at the top of the elite patriarchal hierarchy and works its way down the social pyramid to all levels through male channels.

The decision is made in a way so it is never traced all the way to the top. To this day, no paper has ever surfaced to tie Hitler directly to ordering the holocaust.

At least 95% of all communication is non-verbal, thus the language transforms into something else, something usually less concrete and more surreal. Non-verbal communication can (and usually does) becomes or evolves into one or more of the following forms: symbolic, semantic, rhetorical, allegorical, cryptographic, metamorphic, philosophical, psychological, hypnotic, controlling, patriarchal, oppressive, numerological, occult, erotic, homoerotic, theological, prophetic, epiphanic, spiritual, so forth. Many messages with double/triple meanings are woven/hidden within these forms on non-verbal communications.

Most of the messages for autogenocide are conveyed non-verbally, indirectly or through a third-person.

The order is usually "innocent" and done in an indirect way. The elite are always surrounded with males from upper social levels and these males lean on every one of their masters' words.

The order is usually given in an informal atmosphere where the ultra rich go. The order can be given at a club, a country club, smoking room, a fancy restaurant, a sauna, a dining or meeting room of an estate, an executive bathroom, on the golf course (where much of the world's fate has been decided for decades), at "charity" functions, posh parties of the rich, so forth.

There are always lower tiers of the elite at these places, including politicians, plus business and society journalists. The males of these upper groups, plus the media (that are basically owned by the elite) and other conveyers of culture are conditioned and socialized to hear and obey the males above them in the hierarchy. That is how patriarchies work and that is how the ruling patriarchs spread their messages.

The top elite male will start a conversation about one thing and segue it into something else that leads into the "problem." Afterwards, he will make his complaint in an indirect way. He hesitates for a few moments while changing his posture, then tone of voice into a more authoritarian one. After silently and discreetly checking for responses of the male faces in the room and to make sure the right ears are listening, he adds more power to his non-verbal language: he segues from a man to a divine person as he begins to talk like the biblical-type wise man/savior of the village. Although charismatic, his language-verbal and nonverbal- gain in authority, thus high patriarchy. He is at the top of the patriarchal chain, so he must exhibit a great amount of power in a subdued, but apparent way.

After he is sure the right male ears are listening, he begins his list of complaints to strengthen and justify his original complaint. The male ears at the table, urinal, golf club, country club, boardroom, fundraiser, so forth, listen and wait for the "solution" that is really a secret command in the world of males.

Then it comes. The Man of Power will make short, casual, "benign" remarks like, "Something has to be done about this," "The numbers (statistics of growing populations that threaten power) have to change,"or "Back in other times, they knew how to fix this" (it may sound nostalgic, but this is an indirect order to solve the "problem" by using classic patriarchal methods of rule, including the patriarchal authority of violence and genocide. Never once does the patriarch offer any concrete suggestions as to how the numbers of unwanted people are to be changed. This is a phenomenon of Denial, the Ninth Stage listed below.

It is up to the elite males below the aristocratic elite to carry out the order by creating and unleashing legal, social forces at the individual/s, groups, population, so forth, designated for removal.

Right from the beginning, the media is always there, helping in every way. They disseminate the propaganda, weaken opposition by various methods including direct and indirect demonizing of the victims and those individuals/groups who support them, as explained throughout this essay, so forth.

As the order for autogenocide goes through the male channels, it will be picked up and sculpted for palatable delivery in earnest politicians' speeches of the extreme right or in the speeches of those politicians who seek the support/help of the political right, including the Christian right.

The males from the other parts of the social pyramid hear it and if they agree (particularly if they benefit from white privilege), they will repeat the mantra until it is spread throughout the entire community. This starts the denial process of the community. When everyone is in denial, almost all will ignore the truth in front of them.

2. Classification. All cultures have categories to distinguish people into "us and them" by ethnicity, race, religion and most recently, nationality (e.g., muslims, middle-easterners that aren't Jews from Israel, illegal Hispanic workers, so forth).

In patriarchal hierarchies, every one has a class worth with another value that appraises women according to the set patriarchal beauty standards in the culture. In plutocracies, human value is awarded or subtracted by the wealth you own with race, gender and other categories factored in such as "good breeding."

Then there is monetary worth. Everything, from air to people, is for sale in the free market, thus everyone and everything in the capitalist marketplace has a monetary value. Insurance actuary tables prove this, but so does the recent settlement payments to the survivors of the 9/11 victims of the World Trade Center. Survivors of dishwashers (who worked in the fancy restaurants in the towers) received about $200,000 while survivors of bankers and stock brokers got at least ten times that.

In America, not only are Americans classified along race, gender, religion, age, so forth, they are also classified by their worth (or negative worth) to plutocracy and industry.

Having wealth can give you a better classification, but it didn't help the wealthy Jews in Nazi Berlin and it didn't help O.J. Simpson or Michael Jackson and a host of other wealthy people. That's because wealth doesn't always guarantee power. Power is held in select, white paternal hands. Oprah can buy some power with her wealth (opulent lifestyle and choices) but if she doesn't stay to the script (she's an entertainer, not a journalist), the males at the top of the media chain will pull the plug on her entertainment products.

Because its their System, aristocrats, whether titled, merchant or military, do not die of autogenocide unless a new type of government is installed.


The modern American autogenocide is also a hybrid. Like the Nazis, it is a hybrid of all five types of genocide.

Retributive: Since Barry Goldwater in the 1960's, the conservatives have done nothing but attack and demonize/dehumanize the poor, until they lost all their perceived humanity. The lazy, tax-sucking, tax-dependent poor had to be morally "saved" by eliminating social safety nets so they would be "motivated to work" when in reality, there was little if any work for them and certainly no work that paid a living wage.

Institutional: The old, established order of elite males rule by terror or what is known as the "patriarchal authority of violence." Institutional genocide reinforces this kind of violence. The autogenocide going on in America right now is politically-sanctioned mass murder. It is politically sanctioned through legislation and through non-legislation (e.g., the continued dismantling of social programs when they are needed more than ever and lack of energy, motivation to reinstate them) and through patriarchal institutions. More, it is politically sanctioned by bureaucracies, male institutions and the corporate-owned media.

Utilitarian: Some people have to die so others can live well, including receiving more share of the community distribution of wealth and more chances for work.

Monopolistic: Autogenocide is internal genocide. The autogenocide being committed against Americans is done to keep the wealth and power in the hands of the established white male order for now and for the future. Think of it as negative, "preemptive" population control to keep the System as it has existed for over two hundred years for the next two hundred years.

Ideological: The conservative right claimed that the poor were dragging the country down morally and economically because they were costing society (living on welfare or getting some other public benefit) when in the "Land of Opportunity "anyone" who "really wanted" a job could get one. The right's "think-tanks" and other institutions launched and paid for "studies" to "prove" their ideologies in their favor. Afterwards, they flooded the social tapestry with "evidence" to sway public opinion in the corner of the right.

In the late 1990's, the American village was constantly covered in propaganda from the government and media proclaiming a "perfect economy" and bemoaning that there were not enough workers to fill all the jobs available. Years later, all of this has been disproved, but it still worked: Part of the American autogenocide became more ideological because of the enormous propaganda released in American communities to stir up civil wars and xenophobia.


Five Types of Genocide

Roger Smith (1999) identified five genocide typologies. They are as follows: retributive genocide; institutional genocide; utilitarian genocide; monopolistic genocide; and, ideological genocide.

Retributive genocide may play a role in all genocide. It is usually rare as a principle motive and used mainly as a rationalization. It usually flows from the dehumanization attached to victims.

Institutional genocide was politically sanctioned mass murder in ancient and medieval times. It is a universal result of conquest and is an inherent form of warfare. It is motivated by the desire to terrorize and exert dominative power and eliminate any possible retaliation.

Utilitarian genocide was very prominent from the 16th to 19th centuries. It is used for the colonial domination and exploitation of indigenous peoples, although many would argue that the free market system dominates and exploits all groups of people who have no economic or political power. The basic proposition of utilitarian genocide is that some people must die so others can live well and the major force driving it is ethnocentrism and greed.

The most frequent cause of genocide in the 20th century and early 21st century has been the struggle to monopolize power. Monopolistic genocide is a tool for the elite to monopolize and centralize power in the hands of a few.

Most genocide prior to the 20th century was external with the goal of conquest and colonial expansion. Today, most genocide is internal or domestic (groups within the same territorial boundaries are destroyed). Issues not at stake in external genocide are the center of internal genocide: who belongs; who is to have voice in politics; what is the shape of the community; what should the purposes of community be.

The fifth type of genocide is ideological genocide. Religion usually provides a rationale. In many cases, the genocides are carried out to protect and defend a particular religious faith, including certain forms of nationalism.

Camus explained ideological genocide as a metaphysical revolt against humanity in which an attempt is made to create/reestablish a system providing for order and justice that humanity thought to be lacking. At the same time, ideological genocide strives for a type of salvation that strives to eliminate all that is perceived to be impure.

A Modern Genocide Usually Consists of More Than One Kind of Genocide

Most types of modern genocide are a hybrid of two or more kinds. For example, the Nazis committed retributive genocide as well as institutional, utilitarian, monopolistic and ideological genocide.

Retributive: The Jews had to be punished for killing Christ and for controlling finance. They and other "enemies of the state" had to be punished for running down decent society in general.

Institutional: Nazis mass-murdered large groups of people, usually with the help of locals. All was politically-sanctioned.

Utilitarian: Some people had to die so others could live well.

Monopolistic: Nazi Germany committed both external and internal genocide. A premiere reason behind this was to monopolize power.

Ideological: Untermenchen (sub-humans) and other defective people were dragging German society down. Religion provided the perfect rationale as the early Christian fathers and Martin Luther wrote/instructed that the Jews killed Jesus, thus were a cursed and hated people. This was taught for millennia in churches and theological schools.


Flashback: America's Darkest Secret: The Nine Stages of American Autogenocide
http://www.signs-of-the- times.or...an+Autogenocide
Martha Rose Crow M.S.
hiddenmurder.blogspot.com
Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:00 EST
U.S. News

Auto comes from the Greek reflexive pronoun while genocide comes from the Latin words gens meaning "race, tribe" and -cidere meaning "kill." (source)

American Autogenocide is the deliberate, systematic and legal murder of American citizens by socially-engineering the die-off of populations that are "problematic" for the interests of wealth and power. Most victims prematurely die from social forces targeted at them to cause them to wear out by stress. This process is called "Weathering Away" or "Attrition By Stress."

Although it has to be "legal," autogenocide is always committed under the radar so the media won't be compelled to report it and so the people won't see it or understand it. More, the genocide is blamed on the victims and their deaths are hidden-attributed-to other causes rather than the primary one of autogenocide.

What is different between this genocide and other genocides is that this unique genocide doesn't produce mass graves. Instead, the victims are spread over a large geographic area and buried singly, thereby hiding the body count. This keeps the deaths sanitized and homogenized. It also keeps the autogenocide surreal; thus enabling the village to deny It's existence when clues to It's existence are ambundant and abundantly transparent.

Six Primary Factors to Genocide

There are six primary factors underlying genocide. First, there is an overpopulation of people from groups that are not economically or socially important and/or viable to the political and economic elite.

Second, genocides usually happen in times of shortages. The shortage behind the current American autogenocide is work. America is losing jobs while the population continues to grow. The wealthy and industry are loathe to pay taxes to support negative or low producers (useless eaters) because the costs of maintaining these people (via increased taxes and social costs) affects their profits and earnings.

More, when there are too many people in times of great shortages, they become restless and can group together to force democratic and social changes the economic/political/military elite don't want and work tirelessly and relentlessly against.

The third factor is that genocides are common to patriarchal societies. The stronger the institutional and cultural patriarchy, the stronger the chances for acts of genocide to exist, whether external or internal.

Threat to power (now or in the future) is the fourth underlying factor of genocide. For example, approximately one-third of all Americans are minorities and that number is expected to rise unless that population begins to die off. If minorities become the majority, the old, established rule of the country by white male elite will not hold for long unless the country becomes a dictatorship.

The fifth primary factor to genocide is that women and children are the primary targets. Women are exterminated because of their fertility. Eliminate them and the next generation of unwanted people will automatically be eliminated or at least be considerably downsized. This applies to the elimination of children as well.

Six, modern autogenocides don't happen without the help of the media. They constantly distribute the propaganda preparing the village psyche for acceptance of the deaths. They officially ignore the suffering and premature death, thus lending approval to its justification and execution.

As good servants to the status quo, the media "hides" the parts of America the ruling and economic elite don't want the majority of the village to see. Only when a fluke thing happens, like an Act of God like Hurricane Katrina, will America see its other, darker side. Now even that has faded and become buried as the national media has mostly forgotten it at the request of their elite masters. Autogenocide has to be hidden until all the people that are considered liabilities (debit people) in the books of the Patriarchal Capitalist Country are disappeared.


Giuliani On Terror: "You Know, In The Horror Movie You Kill The Monster, And The Hand Re-Emerges"
http://www.usatoday.com/news/pol...- pakistan_N.htm

Bush On Iraq Amputee: "Good Man, We're Gonna Get Him Some New Legs..."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 20...go_n_57083.html

Drug Czar Says American Cocaine In Short Supply
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...caine-shortage/

Report: Gore's Son Was Found With 140 Vicodin Pills
http://www.people.com/people/ art...0047643,00.html

Poll: 41 Percent Of Americans Think Muslim Culture Glorifies Suicide
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1987.../site/newsweek/

Daddy Dearest: Redstone Tries To Force Daughter Off Board
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...- t_n_57047.html

OxyContin Makers Hit With $634.5 Million In Fines
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...oxycontin-plea/


The soul and the mind can work together, the body will follow along.
For all the flag wavers, jobs are needed in Iraq for body clean up and burial, the pay is great and you get a brown shirt with a flag on the shoulder.
Upon a years tour you receive a printed document of merit from MR.BUSH


Zyklon B on the US Border
http://www.counterpunch.org/ cock...rn06232007.html
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN

Zyklon B came to El Paso in the 1920s. In 1929, for example, a U.S. Public Health Service officer, J.R. Hurley, ordered $25 worth of the material--hydrocyanic acid in pellet form--as a fumigating agent for use at the El Paso delousing station, where Mexicans crossed the border from Jurez. Zyklon, developed by DEGESCH (the German Vermin-combating Corporation) was made in varying strengths, with Zyklon C, D and E representing gradations in potency and price. As Raul Hilberg describes it in The Destruction of the European Jews, " strength E was required for the eradication of specially resistant vermin, such as cockroaches, or for gassings in wooden barracks. The 'normal' preparation, D, was used to exterminate lice, mice, or rats in large, well-built structures containing furniture. Human organisms in gas chambers were killed with Zyklon B." In 1929, DEGESCH divided the world market with an American corporation, Cyanamid, so Hurley presumably got his Zyklon B from the latter.

As David Dorado Romo describes it in his marvelous Ringside Seat to a Revolution: An underground history of El Paso and Jurez : 1893-1923 (available from Cinco Puntos Press, El Paso), Zyklon B had become available in the U.S.A. in the early 1920s when fears of alien infection had been inflamed by the alarums of the eugenicists, most of them from the "progressive" end of the political spectrum. In 1917, the U.S. Congress passed and Wilson--an ardent eugenicist--signed the Immigration Law. The United States Public Health Service simultaneously published its Manual for the Physical Inspection of Aliens.

The Manual had its list of excludables from the U.S. of A., , a ripe representation of the obsessions of the eugenicists: "imbeciles, idiots, feeble-minded person, persons of constitutional psychopathic inferiority (homosexuals), vagrants, physical defectives, chronic alcoholics, polygamists, anarchists, persons afflicted with loathsome or dangerous contagious diseases, prostitutes, contracts laborers, all aliens over 16 who cannot read." In that same year U.S. Public Health Service Agents "bathed and deloused" 127,123 Mexicans at the Santa Fe International Bridge between Jurez and El Paso.


Pick your favorite scrubbed historical facts, this one looks juicy...

1944 Oscar Ewing is put on the payroll of the Aluminum Company of America (ALCOA), as an attorney, at an annual salary of $750,000. Within a few months, Ewing was made Federal Security Administrator, with the announcement that he was taking a big cut in salary. The US Public Health Service, then a division of the FSA, comes under the command of Ewing , and he begins to vigorously promote fluoridation nationwide. Ref: May 25-27 Hearings before the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. A by-product of aluminum manufacture is toxic c. Ewings public relations strategist for the fluoride campaign was the nephew of Sigmund Freud, Edward L. Bernays. Bernays conducts a public relations campaign to promote fluorine ingestion by applying Freudian theory to induce public acceptance. It was one of Bernays most successful campaigns.


1943 General vaccine program against influenza begins in the US.

1943 Infantile paralysis epidemic kills 1200 and cripples more in US.

1943 Penicillin "successfully used in the treatment of chronic diseases".

1943 The Journal of the American Medical Association on September 18, 1943, states, "fluorides are general protoplasmic poisons, changing the permeability of the cell membrane by inhibiting certain enzymes. The exact mechanism of such actions are obscure. The sources of fluorine intoxication are drinking water containing 1ppm or more of fluorine, fluorine compounds used as insecticidal sprays for fruits and vegetables (cryolite and barium fluoro- silicate) and the mining and conversion of phosphate rock to superphosphate, which is used as a fertilizer. That process alone releases approximately 25,000 tons of pure fluorine into the atmosphere annually."

1943 Child psychologist LeoKanner observes a new illness appearing in US children, "inborn autistic disturbance of affective contact". The problem became known as "infantile autism" or simply "autism".

Outstanding features of this new problem: self-absorbed alienation, inability to relate in the ordinary way to people and situations from the very beginning of life, detachment, nervous hostility with strangers, emotional bluntness and isolation, impaired relationships, and reading with little or no comprehension and inability to process experience. .

1943 Diptheria cases in Nazi occupied France rise to 47,000 after Germans force compulsory vaccination. In nearby Norway, which refused vaccinations, there were 50 cases of Diptheria.

1944 Asperger in Vienna describes the first cases of adult "autism" to appear.

1944 The city manager of Grand Rapids, Michigan announces that the Michigan State Department of Health is planning a long range experiment with fluoridated water and that Grand Rapids was selected as the location for the experiment. The city commission approves a motion to fluoridate on July 31, and decide it is to begin in January 1945, despite the warning issued three months earlier by the American Dental Association. Grand Rapids becomes the first city in the United States to conduct this experiment. It was to serve as the test city to be compared against un-fluoridated Muskegon for a period of ten years relative to tooth decay, at which time it would be determined whether or not fluoride was "safe and effective." Dr. H. Trendley Dean was put in charge of the project. The experiment was terminated early with the pronouncement that fluorides in public water supplies was "safe". See 1945.

1944 Oscar Ewing is put on the payroll of the Aluminum Company of America (ALCOA), as an attorney, at an annual salary of $750,000. Within a few months, Ewing was made Federal Security Administrator, with the announcement that he was taking a big cut in salary. The US Public Health Service, then a division of the FSA, comes under the command of Ewing , and he begins to vigorously promote fluoridation nationwide. Ref: May 25-27 Hearings before the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. A by-product of aluminum manufacture is toxic c. Ewings public relations strategist for the fluoride campaign was the nephew of Sigmund Freud, Edward L. Bernays. Bernays conducts a public relations campaign to promote fluorine ingestion by applying Freudian theory to induce public acceptance. It was one of Bernays most successful campaigns.

1944 Health Practitioners Journal, June 1944, reports Dr.S.S.Goldwater, the New York Commissioner of Hospitals states "as a result of the drugs, vaccines and other suppressive treatments used to check diseases, chronic diseases are growing at such a rate that America may become a nation of invalids."

1944 The Journal of the American Dental Association on October 1, 1944 warned that "We do know that the use of drinking water containing as little as 1.2 to 3.0 ppm of fluorine will cause such developmental disturbances in bones as osteoporosis, and we cannot run the risk of producing such systemic disturbances in applying what at present is a doubtful procedure intended to prevent development of dental disfigurement in children. In the light of our present knowledge or lack of knowledge of the chemistry of the subject, the potentialities for harm far outweigh those for good."

1944 The American Cancer Society (ACS) is reorganized, chiefly under the wing of Albert Lasker (an advertising tycoon) and Elmer Bobst (president of two drug companies, Hoffman LaRoche and Warner Lambert).

Mary Lasker in New York was the driving force of the ACS for decades. The Albert and Mary Lasker Foundation, which is based on the Lasker advertising fortune, provides the impetus to dominate cancer research.

1945 1952 I.G. Farben split into BASF, Bayer, and Hoechst.

1945 A survey of 10,000 boys in the US having had the smallpox vaccination also notes that 6% were associated with crime.

1945 Newburgh, New York has their water supply fluoridated. Subsequent exams of the children by x-ray reveal that almost 14% have cortical defects in bone, compared to the nearby unfluoridated town of Kingston, where 7.5% have bone defects.

1945 As a result of government propaganda on fluorides, the ten year Michigan study was terminated after 1 year. The fluoride-free control city, Muskegon, was then fluoridated to conceal any differential between the two cities.

1945 Japan surrenders twice, followed by US bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki and a third and final surrender. The Allies mandate compulsory vaccination in Japan. The first cases of autism follow pertussis vaccine introduction.

1945 Postwar nitrate supplies designated to be added to food chain as fertilizer.

1945 Dr. Edwin Katzen-Ellenbogen, former member of the faculty at Harvard Medical School, sentenced to life in prison at Nuremberg for his role at Buchenwald. Ellenbogen became a member of the faculty at Harvard in 1910, left the US in 1915 and reappeared in Paris in 1941. He was heavily involved in the killing at Buchenwald.


I personally think that OBL has been under some sort of control by handlers since 9/10/01 and that getting closer to his body dead or alive could only be fruitful in the fight against the true enemies of this republic.
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Agreed to 100%.


1939 Compulsory vaccination in Germany raises diptheria cases to 150,000.

1939 Psychiatrists in Brandenburg Germany begin operation of gas chambers to kill mental patients.

1939 Germany invades western Poland. Russia invades eastern Poland. Both Germany and Russia commit atrocities and mass murder.

1939 Dr.Emanuel Josephson reveals AMA coverup of Vitamin E benefits.

1939 Dr.Weston Price, a research dentist, publishes Nutrition and Physical Degeneration: A Comparison of Primitive and Modern Diets and Their Effects, which proved that refined foods and sugar causes physical degeneration and disease as opposed to natural unrefined foods.

1940 Germany orders compulsory mass immunization for children. As a result, by 1945, Germany's Diptheria cases increase from 40,000 to 250,000.

1940 Soviet concentration camps maintained by fluoride administration to inmates to decrease resistance to authority and induce physical deteriorization.

1940 American intake of petroleum-based food colorings/additives increases ten-fold (to 1977). Most of the additives prove later to be carcinogenic.

1941 Louis Sauer of Evanston, Illinois, an avid supporter of mass vaccination, reports that only 27% of a group of 89 babies developed "protective antibodies" when vaccinated at three months of age or less." Sauer urges that Pertussis vaccination "begin no earlier than seven months" because "most of these infants did not yet possess the power to develop adequate immunity when they were injected so early in life".

1941 AMA "approves" I.G. Farben subsidiary "sulfathiazole", which kills many.

1941 Wilhelm Reich meets with Albert Einstein to discuss discovered phenomena. A second meeting follows. Einstein retains use of orgone accumulator until 1942 for study. Later, Einstein is silent about the accumulator and refuses to return it to Reich, whose work ultimately means discredit to Einstein's theories.

1941 Among the American corporations supporting Germany were Sterling Drug (Bayer).

1942 I.G. Farben known to be operating using slave labor from Nazi camps.

1942 Epidemic of typhus in Egypt and North Africa into 1943.

1942 Germany becomes world's largest producer of aluminum (and Sodium Fluoride)

1943 Researchers from the US Public Health Service examine the health of residents of Bartlett, Texas to see if the 8ppm fluoride in the drinking water was affecting their health. It was checked again in 1953. They find that the death rate in Bartlett was three times higher than a neighboring town which contained 0.4 ppm fluoride.

1943 American vaccine researcher Pearl Kendrick reports that adding a metallic salt seemed to heighten the capacity of the Pertussis vaccine to produce anti-bodies. (Metal salt is an "adjuvant" in this way). Some metallic salts used are those of aluminum (alum). Pearl Kendrick is the researcher that urged that Pertussis vaccine be combined with Diptheria vaccine. Later the Tetanus vaccine was added, producing the nefarious DPT Vaccine.

1943 Dr. John Tinterta rediscovers the vital importance of the endocrine system, and connects sugar use to production of hyper-adrenocortic episodes in humans intolerent to sugar. This is where adrenal hormones are suppressed, producing inability to think clearly, allergies, inability to handle alcohol, depression, apprehension, craving for sweets and low blood pressure.


1933 Diptheria cases decline in Britain over the period of a year.

1933 I.G. Farben gives Nazis 4.5 million RM.

1933 World Fair in Chicago has amoebic dysentary outbreak. AMA conceals it.

1934 Denmark sugar consumption is 113 pounds per person annually.

1934 Death rate for diabetes in Denmark is 19 per 100,000.

1934 Drs. Chaffee and Light publish manuscript entitled "A Method for Remote Control of Electrical Stimulation of the Nervous System".

1934 IG. Farbenindustrie completely under Nazi control.

1935 Lobotomy introduced in the United States. In the next 30 years, over 100,000 people would have their brain mutilated in American institutions. At the University of Mississippi Medical Center, Dr. Orlando J. Andy would apply lobotomy to six-year-old children.

1936 Pertussis vaccine introduced in the United States. Autism begins to appear in children shortly thereafter. (Autism: A mental illness of children characterised by inability to communicate or to relate to other people and, often, mental subnormality).

1936 Diptheria vaccine injures 75 in France.

1936 I.G. Farben produces Zyklon B gas for extermination camps.

1937 German manufacturing trials for nerve gas Tabun begin using fluorides.

1937 Another outbreak of encephalitis in St. Louis, Missouri.

1937 AMA "approves" drug sulfanilamide with diethylene glycol. Kills people.

1938 Fifty-eight British physicians sign a mandate against compulsory immunization in Guernseypoint to the virtual disappearance of Diptheria in Sweden, a country without Diptheria vaccination.

1938 Sandoz Pharmaceuticals, now a subsidiary of I.G. Farben, begins manufacture of LSD / Lysergic acid.

1938 Ugo Cerletti becomes the first to use electroconvulsive treatment in fascist Italy. The first victim was a 39 year old engineer who was found wandering on trains without a ticket. Present at this event was Lothar Kalinowsky, who would become a member of the American Psychiatric Association and an avid promoter of electroshock in the United States.

1938 German chemist Schrader discovers Sarin, 10 times more lethal than Tabun, which is made with various compounds including Sodium Fluoride, which is later dumped into planetary water supplies to placate the population.

1938 Food, Drug and Cosmetics Act certifies 19 dyes for use in foods.

1938 The idea of "booster shots" arose as a "solution" to poor antibody response in infants and newborns. These become customary in the 1940's.

1938 Reich Air Ministry is shipped 500 tons of tetra-ethyl lead gas additive from Standard Oil of New Jersey (EthylStandard) in the United States, through I.G. Farben, with payment secured through Brown Brothers Harriman on Sept 21, 1938.

1938 Germany invades Austria.

1938 Compulsory immunization instituted in Hungary. Diptheria cases rise 35% by 1940.

1938 Ugo Cerletti introduces electroshock into the psychiatric hospitals in Italy.

1939 Health Practitioners Law (Heilpraktikergesetz) is put into practice in Germany. Allowed psychotherapists to advance their professional claims within the field of health and medicine during the Third Reich. The law ended the 'freedom to cure' that had existed in Germany since 1870. The 'freedom to cure' which had given personal and professional access to all aspects of healing, current and future, instead of the narrowly defined parameters which exist today.

In future, the government would supervise all training of medical personnel, including officially approved health practitioners.


1928 John D. Rockefeller interlocks his empire with I.G. Farben in Germany.

1929 Dr. Wileys book "The History of a Crime Against the Food Law" published, detailing the subversion of the food purity laws and government corruption. All books produced are mysteriously bought up, and no copies can be found.

Wiley's Bureau of Chemisty is dismantled and replaced by the Food Drug and Insecticide Administration, precursor of the FDA. All lists of "dubious compounds in food" were declared "Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS)".

1929 Consumption of refined sugar in Sweden 120 pounds per person annually.

1929 I.G. Farben, Standard Oil and Shell Oil consumated agreement.

1929 I.G. Farben concluded limited cartel agreements with Dupont Chemical in US.

1930 William Wirt, who pioneered Carnegie's German Wundt school system in Gary, Indiana and tried it in New York, is committed to an insane asylum in Washington, D.C where he died in 1932. Wirt was committed because he began to make public speeches saying that he had been part of a world wide conspiracy to bring about a controlled state in the hands of certain people - the same people, no doubt, who committed him.

1930 Max Theiler develops a yellow fever vaccine.

1930 Diptheria vaccinations injure 32 and kill 16 in Columbia.

1931 Fluoride in drinking water is found to be the cause of brown teeth - now known as dental fluorosis.

1931 H.Trendley Dean of the U.S. Public Health Service initiates studies on fluorides under the jurisdiction of Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon. Mellon is founder of Alcoa aluminum, who is one of the main suppliers of toxic sodium fluoride as a by-product of aluminum manufacture. He publishes a purposely skewed study showing that, at 1ppm, fluoride results in the reduction of tooth decay.

1931 I.G. Farben and Alcoa Aluminum sign Alig Agreement pooling patents.

1931 Roosevelt endorses polio "immune serum", precursor to vaccines in 1950's.

1932 The US Public Health Service initiates a study in Tuskegee, Alabama where black men are given syphilis. Four hundred men were unwittingly given the disease. No medical care was offered. The study ended when it was discovered in 1972, after 40 years. The office supervising this study was the predecessor of the Center for Disease Control unit now in charge of the AIDS program.

1932 Diptheria vaccines injure 171 and kill 1 in Charolles, France.

1932 Research (Young) indicates that neuritis is commonly precipitated following vaccination with anti-tetanus, anti-pneumococcal, and anti-meningitis serums.

1932 Third International Congress of Eugenics held in New York. Dr. Theodore Russell Robie of the Essex County Mental Hygiene Clinic in New Jersey presents "Selective Sterilzation for Race Culture", in which he called for the sterilzation of at least 14 million Americans who had received low IQ scores since World War I.

1933 Danish researcher Thorvald Madsen discovers the Pertussis vaccine's ability to kill infants without warning (SID). He reports that two babies vaccinated immediately after birth died in a few minutes.

1933 Outbreak of encephalitis in St. Louis, Missouri.

1933 American researchers report that children react to Pertussis vaccine with fever, convulsions and collapse.

1933 Vaccination programs against Yellow Fever begin in the United States.

1933 Compulsory immunization instituted in Geneva.


1924 Heroin, originally created by I.G. Farben, is outlawed as a prescription drug in the United States.

1924 Diptheria vaccinations kill 25 in Bridgewater, Connecticut and 20 in Concord, New Hampshire.

1925 Danish researcher Thorvald Madsen tries a modified Pertussis vaccine during an epidemic in the Faroc Islands. It did not prevent Pertussis. (See 1933).

1925 Doctors at the Paris Academy of Medicine discuss deaths occurring shortly after vaccination in Holland and other European countries.

1925 In England, less than 50% of infants are vaccinated for smallpox. 6 deaths occur. (See 1872).

1925 General vaccine programs against tuberculosis began in the United States.

1925 I.G. Farben is reorganized by the Warburgs as a merger between Badische Anilin, Bayer, Agfa, Hoechst, Welierter-Meer, and Griesheim Elektron.

1926 American I.G. founded as a holding company controlling I.G. Farben assets in the United States. Some board members were Edsel Ford, Charles Mitchell (President of Rockefeller's National City Bank of New York), Walt Teagle (President of Standard Oil), Paul Warburg (Federal Reserve chairman and brother of Max Warbug, financier of Nazi Germany's war effort and Director of American I.G.) and Herman Metz, a director of the Bank of Manhattan, controlled by the Warburgs. Three other members of the Board of Governors for American I.G. were tried and convicted as German war criminals.

1926 General Medical Society for Psychotherapy created in Germany, an international organization.

1927 Conference at the Hague, under the auspices of the League of Nations, on the subject of vaccination-caused deaths in Europe.

1927 Oliver Wendell Holmes writes the US Supreme Court decision in the case Buck v. Bell. In the case, a psychiatric inmate, Carrie Buck, was chosen for sterilization after having a child because she was deemed "feeble-minded"; Oliver Wendell Holmes writes, "It is better if society can prevent our being swamped with incompetance, it is better to prevent those who are manifestly unfit from breeding their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting of the fallopian tubes ... three generations of imbeciles is enough".

They then sterilized Carrie Buck. The crux of the matter is that Carrie Buck was not retarded, but just a little slow, based on environmental conditions. Her child grew to be an honor student.

1927 Diptheria vaccinations injure 37 and kill 5 people in China.

1927 Austrian psychiatrist Menfred Sakel develops insulin shock (insulin coma treatment, ICT). Patients are overdosed with insulin, which induces a coma. By 1937, all neuropsychiatric hospitals in Germany would use ICT.

1927 British government appoints a committee to inquire into "vaccine lymph", as it is noticed that the "glycerinated calf lymph" used in vaccinations causes deaths from "sleepy sickness". Two London professors bring notice of the problem to the government in 1922. It takes 5 years before the government responds.

1927 Smallpox in England dwindles almost to the vanishing point. Fatality of the unvaccinated cases is less than half of the vaccinated cases.

1928 Edward L.Bernays, nephew to Sigmund Freud, writes the book Propaganda, in which he explains the structure of the mechanism which controls the public mind, and how it is manipulated by those who wish to create public acceptance for a particular idea or commodity.

Says Bernays, "those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. Our minds are molded, our tastes are formed, largely by men we have never heard of."

1928 Cases of post-vaccination encephalitis force creation of two Committees of Investigation in Britain.

1928 Fleming discovers penicillin.

1928 Development of the discovery of the EEG machine and brain waves.

1928 Third International Congress of Eugenics. At the conference, a Dr. Robie calls for the sterilization of 14 million Americans with low IQ scores.

1928 Henry Ford merges assets with I.G. Farben.


1913 John D. Rockefeller founds Rockefeller Institute with $100 million grant.

1913 The American Cancer Society is formed. .

1915 A doctor in Mississippi alters the diet of 12 prison inmates and is successful in producing pellegra, in a curious attempt at reverse contradictory logic in an "attempt to find a cure for the disease".

1915 J.P. Morgan organizes control of US newspaper businesses.

1915 Tetanus epidemics in trenches of World War I.

1916 The first evidence of brown mottling of teeth is reported in the United States.

1917 Constituents try and force Harrison Drug Control Act on Coca-Cola and are defeated.

1917 Freud writes "Introduction to Psychoanalysis".

1917 Wagner von Jauregg treats syphilitic paralysis by injecting malaria.

1917 Post WW1 supplies of chlorine designated to be added to water supplies.

1917 AMA hostility toward compulsory health insurance.

1917 Outbreaks of encephalitis in China and Europe.

1917 Fifteen states in the US have eugenics laws on the books which authorize sterilization of criminals, epileptics, the retarded and insane.

1918 Great influenza epidemic attributed to widespread use of vaccines.

1918 The Surgeon General of the United States issues a report that states that tuberculosis is the leading cause for discharge of men from the Armed Forces.

1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas.

1919 Death rate from encephalitis accelerates. Between 1919 and 1928, over 500,000 deaths and 1,000,000 cases of neurological impairment were attributed to this disease, which affects males more than females. Recent research indicates that this epidemic was a late manifestation of the post World War I influenza outbreaks, and that both were due to the appearance of a swine flu virus.

1920 Prohibition in the US brings narcotics trafficking and large scale organized crime into the US.

1920 Dr. Otto Walberg experiments with human cells. Removes 35% of the oxygen and cells become non-reversibly cancerous.

1921 Second International Congress of Eugenics held in New York City. Sponsoring committee includes Herbert Hoover and the presidents of Clark University, Smith College and the Carnegie Institute of Washington (owned by Rockefeller Foundation).

1921 Ghandi begins agitating against the British opium imports into India. He would be eventually assassinated.

1921 BCG tuberculosis vaccine developed.

1922 Aluminum production (along with production of toxic by-product sodium fluoride) increases. Aluminum cookware is mass introduced in the US, beginning the gradual accumulation of aluminum in the brains of Americans. Additional aluminum is injected into society in "antacids".

1922 Coca-Cola plant built in Ashtabula, Ohio. The drink contains coal tar derivatives , flavoring, and massive amounts of sugar.

1922 By 1922,more than 100 radiologists died from X-ray induced cancer.

1922 A study by Samuel Torrey Orton connects emotional disturbance with neurological problems. This insight was lost after World War II when psychology, psychiatry and psychoanalysis became popular, breaking the connection.

The emotional disturbances caused by vaccines then became financial fodder for the new psych-industries. With the causes suppressed, a new industry was born.

1923 Canadian physician Frederick Banting receives Nobel Prize for discovery of a way to extract the hormone insulin , which permitted control of blood sugar in those with diabetes. This opens a whole new medical market because of the growing sugar addiction in the US public.

1923 Earl of Inchscape publishes his report which insists that British opium trade must be maintained to protect the revenue of the British Empire, much to the protest of the League of Nations.

1924 Dr. Seale Harris of the University of Alabama discovers that sugar can cause hyperinsulinism and recommends people cut sugar consumption. The medical establishment comes down on Harris and his work is suppressed. Harris would be awarded a medal by the AMA 25 years later, as pharmaceuticals to control low blood sugar are developed and put into production. The basic contribution of refined sugar to the problem remains suppressed.


1907 England passes the Vaccination Act of 1907, after the newly elected government comes to power. The act allowed a statutory objection from a parent relative to a child vaccination before the child was four months old.

1907 Bureau of Chemistry empowered by Congress to police quality of US food.

1909 Massachusetts Senate introduces bill prohibiting compulsory vaccination.

1909 Rockefeller Sanitary Commission established. Beginning of Rockefeller Foundation.

1909 New York Press, January 26, 1909 publishes a report by W.B. Clark which states, " cancer was practically unknown until cowpox vaccination began to be introduced. I have seen 200 cases of cancer, and I never saw a case of cancer in an unvaccinated person."

Scientific evidence begins to mount that where human lymph is employed in a vaccine, syphilis, leprosy and TB soon follow. Where calf lymph is employed in the creation of a vaccine, TB and cancer soon follow. (Cancer and Vaccination by Esculapius).

1910 Japan acquires a source of cheap and abundant sugar on Formosa. Incidence of tuberculosis (TB) rises dramatically in Japan.

1910 First TB Sanitarium opened. TB death rate 180 per100,000.

1910 AMA requests Carnegie Foundation to survey all US medical schools. Simon Flexer (later to be a director of the Rockefeller Foundation) produces the report.

1910 Dr.James Douglas founds the National Radium Institute for treatments.

1911 Denmark sugar consumption 82 pounds per person annually. (This goes up to 113 lb per person in 1934).

1911 Death rate for diabetes in Denmark is 8 per 100,000. (This goes up to 19 per 100,000 in 1934).

1911 General vaccination programs against typhoid begin in the United States.

1911 Britain passes the "Official Secrets Act" which prevents future discussion of anything the government deems secret.

1911 Encyclopedia Brittanica contains "a guide for acquisition, operation and care of the opium pipe."

1912 Dr. Robert Boesler, New Jersey dentist, notes that "modern manufacturing of sugar has brought about entirely new diseases. Sugar has caused a vast degeneration of the people."

1912 First International Congress of Eugenics at the University of London. The president of the Congress is Leonard Darwin, son of Charles Darwin. One of the first English vice presidents is Winston Churchill. American vice- presidents included Charles Elliot, president emeritus of Harvard, and Alexander Graham Bell. Also attending was Starr Jordon, president of Stanford University.

1912 First whooping cough (Pertussis) vaccine created by two French bacteriologists, Jules Bordet and Octave Gengou, who wanted to use it in Tunisia. After they grew Pertussis bacteria in large pots, they killed it with heat, mixed it with formaldehyde (used to embalm bodies) and injected it into children.


1893 Johns Hopkins Medical School established. Headquarters of German Allopathic Medicine. Vaccine, public health history links below.
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1893 Johns Hopkins Medical School established. Headquarters of German Allopathic Medicine.

1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting until 1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 8,900 died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 cases were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a fatality rate of 6%.

1896 Carlo Ruta, a professor at the University of Perugia in Italy, states that "vaccination is a world-wide delusion and an unscientific practice, with consequences measured today with tears and sorrow without end."

1897 AMA formally incorporated, paying $3 fee to State of Illinois.

1897 Chloride of lime first used to sterilize drinking water.

1897 Freud writes that "masturbation is the prime habit and addiction which is replaced by addiction to alcohol, morphine and tobacco". Freud neglects to mention his own further addiction to sugar and cocaine, leading one to assume Freud was eternally high and sexually frustrated, and that this was projected to form the sexually dependent theories taken up later by psychiatry.

1898 Rockefeller interests have a prime goal of control of medical education in USA.

1898 Vaccination Act of 1898 in England. Elections held for the "board of guardians", the administrators of the vaccination laws, and by 1898 over 600 boards in England were pledged not to enforce the law. The Act of 1898 contained the first "conscience clause", although no claims of conscience were ever approved by magistrates.

1898 Marie Curie discovers radium.

1898 J.R. Ewald, professor of physicology at Strassbourg University in Germany experiments using brain electrode implants.

1900 By 1900, all PhD's in the United States were trained in Prussia (Germany). The degree is a German invention. These German educated men would become presidents of American Universities, heads of research facilities (both corporate and government).

1900 AMA began to achieve goal of replacing existing medical system with allopathy (system that treats diseases with drugs).

1900 Cancer causes 4% of deaths in the United States.

1900 Deaths from measles were 13 per 100,000.

1901 Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research founded.

1902 The Chicago Health Department develops its "vaccination creed", which states that "true vaccination repeated until it 'no longer takes' always prevents smallpox. Nothing else does." The policy is immediately taken up by the US military.

1904 Eugenics (the study of the hereditary improvement of the human race by controlled selective breeding) established as a course at University College in London.

1904 Eugenics laboratory established at Cold Springs Harbor on Long Island, constructed by Charles B. Davenport. Cold Springs facility is funded in excess of $11 million by the Harrimans and the Rockefellers.

1905 Food and Drug Act passed in the United States.

1905 Eleven states in the US have compulsory vaccination laws; 34 states do not. No states physically force injections on citizens, Vaccination was made compulsory without state legislation providing for analysis of its history.

1906 First Pure Food and Drug law in the United States passed.

1906 Investigations into the content of Coca-Cola are halted by the US Secretary of Agriculture.


Ohio House Bill 68
Testimony before Ohio House Health Committee
May, 2004
Related Links
HB 68
http://www.consciencelaws.org/Ex...gal/ Legal22.htm
Testimony of Robert Garbe, R.Ph.
Chairman White and members of the House Health Committee, thank you for allowing me to testify today on House Bill 68, the Pharmacists Conscience Clause legislation. My name is Robert Garbe, and I am a pharmacist with 43 years experience in the practice of pharmacy. My professional background includes: patent holder of a unit dose medication delivery system, owner of an independent pharmacy, supervisor in a manufacturing pharmacy, and for the last ten years community pharmacy practice for a large retail chain. I hope to continue working for many more years.

I support H.B. 68, sponsored by Representative Keith Faber, because I will most likely lose my job if I follow my conscience and not fill a prescription that will kill a baby. There is an unwritten rule that if I do not satisfy the customer’s legal requests I will place my employment in serious jeopardy. I have never before been in the position of this moral dilemma in the years of my pharmacy practice.

This is important to pharmacists because we spend a considerable portion of our work day evaluating, advising and subsequently preventing harmful medication from reaching pregnant or potentially pregnant women. We are consistently being questioned by customers concerning safety for the baby when using over the counter medication to treat the mother's illness.

My personal belief (as is the belief of many of my colleagues) is that killing of the innocent life in the womb is every bit as heinous as the killing of the "Undesirables" by Nazis in the 1940's Germany and Poland. To require and intimidate me with regulations that will terminate my livelihood if I "do not go along" is as reprehensible as it must have been to the guards who ushered the Innocent into the gas chambers. Excuses like "It is just my job" cannot be good enough to participate in this killing of life. Please prevent this dilemma that many pharmacist like myself face. In these hearings considerable testimony has been given to advocate for the woman. Who, if not the pharmacist, will speak for the baby in the womb?

Thank you very much: I hope that you will favorably report H.B. 68 from this committee. I would be happy to answer any questions you may have.

Testimony of Karen Brauer, M.S., RPh
House Bill 68 addresses the need for protecting a pharmacist's right to choose to dispense only those drugs which promote life and health of a patient. There is a long medical tradition admonishing the health care professional to do no harm. This tradition codified most clearly in the Hippocratic Oath has unfortunately been set aside by many. Others of us wish to adhere to a practice of preserving and promoting human life.

A pharmacist, whether as employee or business owner, bears individual clinical, legal, and moral responsibility for his or her dispensing decisions. Authority to make the decisions needs to be protected. Without this authority, the practice of pharmacy is untenable.

While it has proven possible to bring a legal defense of the pharmacist's right to avoid killing humans, in the state of Ohio, it is quite difficult. After being fired from K-Mart pharmacy in 1996, for refusal to dispense an abortifacient birth control drug, I won the opportunity to present my case in federal court. This procedure required the benevolent assistance of the American Center for Law and Justice, a public interest law firm. It should be mentioned that no local lawyers felt that I had a case with a chance of success in the state of Ohio. The usual pharmacist, after losing a job, does not have the funding to initiate a legal battle which may extend for so many years as mine has taken. Also the usual pharmacist might not be able to spend years of effort, publicizing an issue on the internet until it attracts the interest of the news media and the general public. It should not be necessary, nor is it desirable, to assist in bringing about the bankruptcy of a large corporation with so many employees, in order to draw attention to an abrogation of those human rights which were traditionally respected in the United States.

A clearly written law, protecting the dispensing authority of pharmacists who choose not to kill will serve the needs of women who deserve to be fully informed concerning their means of birth control. In a state in which medical professionals are not expected to end human life, women will understand that there is also not an expectation for them to do the same. There will be incentive and opportunity to directly address the problems of rape and sexual abuse, rather than to conceal them by the various means of abortion. A clearly written law will help to define the relationship of health care professionals and their employers. An employer may continue to expect that an employee pharmacist should bring profitability to the company, but not that he or she kill in order to do so.

The prospect of being forced to participate in ending human life serves as a deterrent for many capable people who would otherwise be attracted to the health professions. A perceived shortage of providers of chemical and surgical abortion is driving such organizations as NARAL and Planned Parenthood to coerce participation by the unwilling. These organizations also seek to protect their income stream by denying or obfuscating the information about the birth control in question, which is found in the physician package inserts of the drugs, and in the medical literature.

At issue today are the rights of patients and medical professionals who wish to avoid ending human life at any stage of development. Patients deserve information and care from health care providers who are free to avoid killing in their practice. This pharmacist is grateful to Representative Keith Faber for introducing House bill 68, and urges the support of this legislation by the Health Care Committee.

For your convenience and for paperwork reduction, pertinent review articles from Archives of Family Medicine and The Annals of Pharmacotherapeutics are linked at this internet location: http://forums.delphiforums.com/p...sages? msg=986.1


"Cheney to be in charge during Bush colonoscopy"
sure, always knew he was a major A**e F**er
And little George Scherff..erm i mean Bush likes it that way..


Hi S. You have made a good point. I have a feeling that our congressman has his strong points, and his weak points.
If Bin Laden is alive, and was captured the only positive result would be his statement of non participation in actual destruction of Sept. 11.
I beleive he ( Bin Laden)may have agreed to using his name and spinning fantasies of super Talibans and Osmin, but my humble oppinion ends there.
My end truth, chains for the involved Elites, MIC, and any and all of their cronys involved either physically or monetarily. Any who profited from or had prior knowledge of 911. High Treason, and crimes against humanity for starters..
The Redemption of this country, Constitutional rights returned, troops home, and rivers of tears shed for the innocents killed. Global admission we were, Americans ,deceived and led to war by Elite and self serving parasites. Perhaps then we can remove the bubbles from the minds of the brainwhashed and controled within our land.
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I personally think that OBL has been under some sort of control by handlers since 9/10/01 and that getting closer to his body dead or alive could only be fruitful in the fight against the true enemies of this republic.


www.davidduke.com/writings/10-03-01.shtml - 35k
Nik | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 6:42 am | #

The Big Lie The true reason behind the attack of September 11Of course, Mr. Bush did not tell us the truth; he simply repeated the Big Lie put .... We believe that this administration represents Israel inside America. ...
Nik | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 6:33 am | #
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Gotta love the "Death to Smoochy" fans that keep attempting to get us to go to a pro-american-nazi rally


http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../ 210707Newt.htm

Newt: Anyone Who Believes 9/11 Was Not an Enemy Attack is Insane

well yes "mister ginGRINCH" I'm not insane, I never said it was not an enemy attack, nice dodge ya SOB.. I know youre part of that enemy.


Mega Indian Ocean Excercise Planned

http://www.defensetech.org/archi...ves/ 003603.html


why do you think he is concerned about pakistan?
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 4:06 am | #

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Hi S. You have made a good point. I have a feeling that our congressman has his strong points, and his weak points.
If Bin Laden is alive, and was captured the only positive result would be his statement of non participation in actual destruction of Sept. 11.
I beleive he ( Bin Laden)may have agreed to using his name and spinning fantasies of super Talibans and Osmin, but my humble oppinion ends there.
My end truth, chains for the involved Elites, MIC, and any and all of their cronys involved either physically or monetarily. Any who profited from or had prior knowledge of 911. High Treason, and crimes against humanity for starters..
The Redemption of this country, Constitutional rights returned, troops home, and rivers of tears shed for the innocents killed. Global admission we were, Americans ,deceived and led to war by Elite and self serving parasites. Perhaps then we can remove the bubbles from the minds of the brainwhashed and controled within our land.


www.davidduke.com/writings/10-03-01.shtml - 35k


Clearly, the Dubya and his Nazi cabal have no plans for another presidential election, and all the clowns and stooges in Washington know that, including those running for president nine years before the election. All that puffing and pontificating is theatre, the prelude to another false flag terrorist attack, 50 times worse than 9/11 because this one will be nuclear. Then comes martial law, the long salivated over attack on Iran, and curtains for us when Putin puts the nukes to America. End of story. Simple, clear cut and deadly. Even a fried egg has sense enough to see this coming.


The Big Lie The true reason behind the attack of September 11Of course, Mr. Bush did not tell us the truth; he simply repeated the Big Lie put .... We believe that this administration represents Israel inside America. ...


BOMBS
Right now they're making an average of 200 bombs a day here at this Army ammunition plant, a total of about 74,000 bombs a year. What they like to say here is if it doesn't come out of a gun, it's very likely that they make it here in McAlester, Oklahoma. The bombs they make range from 20-millimeter tank rounds to 5,000-pound bombs.

Children victims
As many as 60 per cent of the victims in south-east Asia are children, the Cluster Munition Coalition said
The weapons have recently been used in Iraq, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Lebanon, it said.
The CBU (cluster bomb unit) 26, which was widely used in Laos, is an anti-personnel fragmentation bomb that consists of a large bombshell holding 670 tennis ball-sized bomblets, each of which contain 300 metal fragments. If all the bomblets detonate, some 200,000 steel fragments will be propelled over an area the size of several football fields, creating a deadly killing zone.
During the Gulf War over 30 MILLION
cluster bomblets were dropped on Kuwait and Iraq
Hi folks, a little info on bombs. How would you like you and your family to live in a country that gets bombed daily. If you and family are fortunate enough to wake in the morning, you now haveto shovel bodies out of your path to get to whatever work you do, or just burry bodies all day.
American people do not see the result of this sickening devesation, I have and I can still not live with it.
The UN estimated that Israel dropped as many as 4 million bomblets in southern Lebanon during last year's war with Hezbollah, with as many 40 per cent failing to explode on impact.
Children can be attracted to the unexploded bombs by their small size, shape and bright colors, activists say.As many as 10,000 non-combatant civilian deaths during 2003 have been reliably reported in the invasion.
What fun the Regime is having, what profits, what power. They are sitting around a large toilet flushing our country and flag down the drain and whooping it up. Parassites by definition need a host to feed from, we are the host. The Elites controling our country are of course the parasitic group feeding of us.
We need look no further for WMD's in Iraq, we brought them there.


"The Failure of Intelligence: The Decline and Fall of the CIA."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=RQWkiQoYNLU
Goodman said the CIA has existed for almost 60 years and has produced a mix of success and controversy and created a need for secrecy that works counterintuitively to the ideals of democracy.

"Here is an agency that has existed in a world of controversy," Goodman said. "So it shouldn't be any surprise that there's still controversy surrounding the CIA."

Goodman focused on the history of the CIA, including its successes in strategic intelligence and verification and monitoring of arms treaties.

He said the CIA was the first government agency to anticipate the split between the Soviet Union and China in the 1970s, leading to the Triangular Diplomacy under President Nixon and Henry Kissinger.

However, Goodman said, the tactical intelligence branch of the CIA has been a different story. He said it is difficult to anticipate events that come as a surprise to the international community, giving the example of the Chinese entry into the Korean War.

Goodman left his harshest criticism for the clandestine activities and espionage branch of the CIA. He said too many people in government tend to put too much faith in espionage and regime change through clandestine activities.

Goodman said the worst decision ever made by a president was George W. Bush's resolve for war with Iraq for regime change.

He said all analysts needed to look at was the CIA's record of regime change to see disastrous consequences, including installing the Shah of Iran in the 1950s leading to the Islamic revolution in 1979.

"When you look at the strategic side of clandestine activities, particularly covert action, I would say there have been no strategic successes that I can think of and very serious strategic failures," he said.

Goodman also talked about CIA intelligence used by Bush to justify the war with Iraq. He said in the run-up to war nearly every piece of evidence given by the administration was challenged and has proven to be false. He said the day after former Secretary of State Colin Powell's speech to the United Nations about Saddam Hussein's supposed weapon's program, the Washington Post ran seven op-ed pieces with every one taking up Powell's argument.

The speech consisted of more than 20 points, Goodman said, that all proved to be false, and it was written by then-CIA director George Tenet and deputy director John McLaughlin.

Goodman said in the last 20 years the CIA has become too political and not focused enough on nonbiased intelligence. "Bush looks at intelligence the way he looks at all government agencies — they are there to be politicized," he said.

Goodman said he is concerned about what he sees as the erosion of the Constitution and civil liberties in America since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

"We have given up a lot of what we stand for as a people, in terms of the meaning of America," Goodman said. "Right now I'm not prepared to give up any more."


WE ARE CHANGE DOT ORG - Luke Skywalker Strikes Back!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=ux6oriG_zvM


Flight 77 and Pentagon (uranium too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...h? v=CzXoIQgnW3w


Pentagon Police State 3/17/07 ANSWER Anti-War Rally
http://video.google.com/videopla...582017130& hl=en


Ron Paul has said several times in the debates and in interviews that the US should be focusing on Pakistan and going after Bin Laden rather than
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:28 am | #

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Why would Ron Paul advocate going after Bin Ladden when he knows damn well who really did 9/11?
Steve | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:50 am | #
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Maybe the remnants of brzynsky's fucked up project are still a threat to US security.

Maybe there are some answers on the afghan/pakistan border that can shed light on how fucked up this whole islamo fundamentalist CIA project really is?

just a guess
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:56 am | #

Maybe Pakistan is a nuclear country that has been infiltrated by illuminati backed terrorists that are about to take over the gov and thus create an actual threat to us rather than the fake one iraq presented?

just another guess

why do you think he is concerned about pakistan?


Where is the media for this prized Hillary moment?

http://video.google.com/videopla...935872164& hl=en


RUMSFELD THE SILENT KILLER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...related& search=


Ron Paul has said several times in the debates and in interviews that the US should be focusing on Pakistan and going after Bin Laden rather than
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:28 am | #

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Why would Ron Paul advocate going after Bin Ladden when he knows damn well who really did 9/11?
Steve | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:50 am | #
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Maybe the remnants of brzynsky's fucked up project are still a threat to US security.

Maybe there are some answers on the afghan/pakistan border that can shed light on how fucked up this whole islamo fundamentalist CIA project really is?

just a guess


>>We are change shows Alan Colmes what free speech is all about!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...CYLQ_GlOo& eurl=


Ron Paul has said several times in the debates and in interviews that the US should be focusing on Pakistan and going after Bin Laden rather than
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:28 am | #

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Why would Ron Paul advocate going after Bin Ladden when he knows damn well who really did 9/11?


>>Philly 911 truthers KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://philly911truth.org/ audiov...audiovideo.html

AUDIO

- RICK ROBERTS Conservative Radio Host Confronted on WTC7 and 9|11 Truth Issues

VIDEO

- JULY 16th, 2007: Confronting Former Congressman Tom DeLay (R-TX) on 9|11
- JULY 2nd, 2007: Confronting Hillary Clinton with 9|11 Truth - ACORN Event Pt. I
- JULY 2nd, 2007: Asking Senator John Edwards About Bilderberg and 9|11- Acorn Event Pt. II
- JULY 2nd, 2007: Rep. Kucinich Asked of 2nd Amendment Gun Legislation - Acorn event Pt. III
- JUNE 11th, 2007: "11th Day of Every Month Action" - FREEWAY BLOGGING in Philadelphia!
- JUNE 10th, 2007: "Educating the Public" - Odunde African American Festival in Philadelphia
- MAY 11th, 2007: "11th of Every Month Action" ~ Philly 9|11 Truth Takes to the Streets!
- APRIL 28th, 2007: Philly 9|11 Truth Speaks on False Flag Terrorism, etc. at Impeachment Rally
- APRIL 28th, 2007: Philly 9|11 Truth Leads "9/11 Truth" Chants at Impeachment Rally
- ALAN DERSHOWITZ Confronted by Philly 9|11 Truth Members on 9|11 and False Flag Terrorism
- CINDY SHEEHAN Tells Her Opinion on the Truth Movement to Philly 9|11 Truth
- MARCH 17th, 2007: Philly 9|11 Truth "Exposes The Police State" at the ANSWER Anti-War Rally
- MARCH 11th, 2007: "11th of Every Month Action" ~ Philly 9|11 Truth Takes to the Streets!
- JESSE JACKSON Confronted on Questions on 9|11 Truth and His CFR Involvement
- JANUARY 18th, 2007: Mike from Florida Confronts the Peace Movement

______________________________________

Hey you elitist fucks, how do you like playing the world's most dangerous game?

how do you like feeling like there is nowhere to run and nowhere to hide?


NOT TOO FUN A GAME IS IT??????

Too bad we just ask questions concerning our release from slavery while you play the game to kill torture and rape for elitist gangbangs.....

Now who is the terrorist?????


Study: 1 in 25 Youths Asked for Sex Pictures
http://www.physorg.com/ news10408...s104084722.html
4 percent of American youths online have been asked to send a sexually explicit photo of themselves over the Internet, researchers say in a new study. Of the 65 youths in the study who reported receiving a request, only one actually complied. But researchers say that's still a troubling number:


Benicio del Toro to Play "Che" Guevara in New Steve Soderbergh Film
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20070...ople_del_toro_2
Film reunites del Toro with Soderbergh for the first time since "Traffic," for which del Toro won an Academy Award for best supporting actor.


Iranian General: Iran and Saudi Arabia to Guarantee Persian Gulf Security
http://www2.irna.com/en/news/ vie...70676010331.htm
Secretary General of the Drugs Campaign Headquarters Brigadier General here on Monday called for expansion of Iran-Saudi Arabia cooperation to guarantee further security in the Persian Gulf Region. "Iran and Saudi Arabia as two influential states in the region can effectively contribute to growing security there...foreign presence fuels terror."


Rudy Giuliani says "Me Too" to Ron Paul
http://marcg.net/blog/archives/119
Ron Paul has said several times in the debates and in interviews that the US should be focusing on Pakistan and going after Bin Laden rather than spending an endless amount of money in Iraq. Now Rudy Giuliani is coming around (kind of).


Body Found in Jetliner's Wheel Well
http://www.boston.com/news/natio...on.com+% 2F+News
A man who died while traveling from China in the wheel well of a jetliner likely fell victim to asphyxiation or hypothermia during the 11-hour flight, officials said


The Insurgency on the Right
http://arizona.typepad.com/blog/ ...nsurgency_.html
An Arizona Democrat, sick of his party's pro-war stance, is helping his local GOP support Ron Paul. He believes we all need to come together and save the world from the Republicrats before it's too late.


Radioactivity leaked unchecked for three days
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle2110707.ece
The nuclear power station at Kashiwazaki-Kariwa pumped radioactive particles into the air for nearly three days after Monday ’s massive Niigata earthquake. Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco), admitted earlier today that iodine had escaped from the exhaust pipe of one of seven reactors at the plant, which was near the epicentre of the quake.


Current nuclear threat worse than during Cold War
http://en.rian.ru/russia/2007071...9/ 69294610.html
The risks of an accidental nuclear war have increased since the Cold War as Russia's early warning capability has deteriorated, a former U.S. defense official said.


LSD assisted psychotherapy study to start in Switzerland
http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/ 20...ed_psychot.html
The study is similar in design to an already approved study looking at psilocybin (Magic mushrooms) assisted psychotherapy for anxiety in cancer patients, and will be the first LSD psychotherapy study for 35 years.


Catholic church apologises for sex attacks
http://www.thelocal.se/7948/20070720/
Sweden's Catholic church has apologised for sex attacks against a child that were committed by a priest 50 years ago. The apology emerged in the form of a newspaper advertisements.


Bill Moyers Interviews Lew Rockwell
http://video.google.com/videopla...663860474& hl=en
A controversial interview between Bill Moyers and Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul's head intellectual cheerleader. The interview is an indepth discussion on American Foreign Policy, the economy and the state of the union in general. Lee Rockwell is a libertarian and the head of the Ludwig von Mises institute.


OJ featured in all-pro football 2k8!
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/2...8-mascot-drama/
OJ Simpson is featured in this game....out of all the fake teams they have, he is place on the Assassins!! And to add insult to injury there mascot makes a stabbing motion when he scores...check out the video


White House seeks legal cover from Gonzales.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...-from-gonzales/
The New York Times reports that the White House is confidently asserting that any attempts by Congress to hold White House staffers in contempt will be stymied by Alberto Gonzales’ Justice Department:

“The Justice Department would be likely to block any efforts by Congressional Democrats to seek contempt charges against present and former White House officials for refusing to give information to Congress, a White House spokesman said Friday. […]

A White House spokesman, Tony Fratto, said Congressional threats to have presidential aides charged with criminal contempt would probably end in failure. “It has been the Justice Department’s long-held view that the law does not permit Congress to require a U.S. attorney to convene a grand jury or otherwise pursue a prosecution” when someone refuses on the basis of executive privilege to testify or turn over documents, Mr. Fratto said.”


>>>New York Times: Exec pleads guilty in Iraq contractor bribery scheme
Published: Friday July 20, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ne...uilty_0720.html
As the New York Times reports in its Saturday edition, at least eight people connected to former Halliburton subsidiary KBR (formerly Kellogg, Brown and Root), so far receiving $20 billion for war-related services, have been implicated in an investigation into kickbacks and bribes stemming from a scheme to overcharge for freight services to Iraq.

Kevin Andre Smoot, managing director for KBR subcontractor Eagle Global Logistics Incorporated, pleaded guilty to dispensing the bribes along with lying to investigators.


Tycoon puts in new bid for Dow Jones
Entrepreneur submits new bid in effort to save the Dow from Murdoch.
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ Int...r_07202007.html


I have seen that.
The Children worshiping George Bush.
Is the Nazi or what?
oldman | 07.21.07 - 2:32 am | #

nazi/zionist/christian right/papal prophecy all rolled up into one NWO fuckfest for the elites.

But also look at the triggers for it to be used as even more illuminati propaganda...

the filmakers point out that 75% of home schooled kids are evangelical christians, well I think that is michael moorian of them.

It creates an impression that riding home schoolers creates an end to mind controlling kids when the opposite is true.


Beddy by time for the oldman.
See you all tomorrow.


No matter what flag they wrap themselves in.
God Bless the republic.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 2:30 am | #

I could not have said it [or even dreamt it] better myself.


I have seen that.
The Children worshiping George Bush.
Is the Nazi or what?


To come into this world is to come into a world in which there is conflict between the forces of light and the forces of evil. We did not make or start the war. We have no option whether to fight or not to fight. Refusal to fight the battle is to settle for defeat. We cannot settle for defeat for we are bound to conquer if we are on the side of God and truth.
I for one will never stop fighting the evil Bastards that would enslave humanity.
No matter what flag they wrap themselves in.
God Bless the republic.


OK, this movie might make you scream, "I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore!"
http://video.google.com/ videopla...553334967300072
But you need to know what is going on [that we know about] to our children.

I could not watch the whole thing at once, it was too sickening [and i usually got a pretty strong stomach for all sorts of shit]


Take care bud. God just wanted me to step in for some reason. I believe you are on the same path and we walk side by side Sane.

God Bless you.

And Good Night.


i thought i would give you a heads up
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 2:21 am | #
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Thank you,
And I will remember your advise.


It is me sane. Riley. Just dropping by....but not for long.
Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 2:15 am | #

nice timing dude, but i have been taking some days off as requested by the love of fellow truthers that have been down the road i am on and do not want me to burn out.

again, nice timing


So much for the moment of silence.


Labels and affiliations. Factions and the resulting strife.

I suppose that is why I walk "alone"......

Seeking after my Creator in Truth and Love.

Bye for now.


PETER ANDREW BOSCH

I wouldn't trust the Bastard as far as I could see him.
A leopard con not change his spots.


sane,
we are all here to share what ever information we have and to share with like minded people.
I am honored to call you a friend.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 2:15 am | #

oldman, i think you might want to think twice before siding too clisely with 9-11 troother, she seems to be under some weird trance by the american nazi party that rewards her for sending them links to conspiracy stuff. she also seems to be rewarded by how many emails she can send promoting american nazi propaganda.

just my opinion, but since we are friends i thought i would give you a heads up


Tribulation against anyone who would aspire for the "TRUTH".....


I still fully believe we will be emersed in WWIII before the end of 2008.

Then comes great Tribulation soon after.


sane, I am NOT a "hate sniper" sane! Maybe YOU like the fact that Zionists murdered American's and JEWS too, i.e. radiated thousands of Jewish kids,i.e. ringworm scandal, Lavon affair, U.S.S. Liberty but I DON"T! Your obviously no.1 Zionist or 2. Jewish who doesn't realize the difference between the two! 3. Just a plain jerk! I was wondering when you were going to get back from vacation and clog up message boards, with thousands of posts!
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 2:13 am | #

Let me ask you a question...

Is this man a zionist, a nazi, or a member of something superior to both?

http://www.theledger.com/article.../707070383/ 1326

something that is so powerful that it allows him to change uniforms from nazi to zionist to member of the AMA while the groups he helped create get left to die as he continues the NWO master plan.


I suppose I feel like I am reading a book backwards.... Seeing the end from the beginning. Watching everyone continue to step into the pitfalls and traps laid waiting....

Tired of warning...

But you Sane, are seemingly inexhaustible. Glad you are still at it.


It is me sane. Riley. Just dropping by....but not for long.


sane,
we are all here to share what ever information we have and to share with like minded people.
I am honored to call you a friend.


We should pity ourselves.....


Leave it to you, sane to defend the pure evil Zionists! You ALWAYS do, no matter WHAT murders they commit even against Jews!


Yet we fight and bicker amongst ourselves, while they laugh and mock us for being so easily misled and deceived; whilst they contend for eternal life amongst the stars, they will be damned by their own lust for power and worship. They will reign in HELL!!!
Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 2:08 am | #

And there not just "globalists", they are "universalists".....meaning THEY (ILLUMINATI) want it ALL!!!! Probably why they say the meek shall inherit the earth.....They love to keep us confounded in our scripts......passing out religions like candy.
Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 2:05 am | #

wow interesting perspective, cool


sane, I am NOT a "hate sniper" sane! Maybe YOU like the fact that Zionists murdered American's and JEWS too, i.e. radiated thousands of Jewish kids,i.e. ringworm scandal, Lavon affair, U.S.S. Liberty but I DON"T! Your obviously no.1 Zionist or 2. Jewish who doesn't realize the difference between the two! 3. Just a plain jerk! I was wondering when you were going to get back from vacation and clog up message boards, with thousands of posts!


Let us have together a moment of silence for the indoctrinated masses. We should pity them and attempt to help them rather than set one against the other and play right into the Illuminati master plan for dominance of the human spirit.......


Right on oldman! Your soo very right! Zionists are pure EVIL! ALL OF THEM! Be they American Zionists or otherwise! Jewish or NOT!
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 2:10 am | #
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That Sir, Is a fact.


can't argue with that, i am only arguing with the proposed solution of "killing all zionists" to grant the world freedom, it was a very similar argument that hitler used and cheney uses against arabs.
sane
WRONG, sane, since Zionists are pure EVIL and are ones doing all this pure evil stuff! Like the man said, Zionists are NOT same a Jews! STOP defending Zionists, sane!
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 2:03 am | #

who the fuck is defending zionists, wtf????

am i defending nazis????

am i defending the kkk????

am i defending vatican assassins????

am I defending the evangelical mind control teachers in jesus camp????

I am just trying to keep my eye on the evil eye of the illuminati not their cannon fodder they throw our way


And there not just "globalists", they are "universalists".....meaning THEY (ILLUMINATI) want it ALL!!!! Probably why they say the meek shall inherit the earth.....They love to keep us confounded in our scripts......passing out religions like candy.
Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 2:05 am | #
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Those who have an eye, let him see.Those who have an ear, let him hear.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12.


Right on oldman! Your soo very right! Zionists are pure EVIL! ALL OF THEM! Be they American Zionists or otherwise! Jewish or NOT!


can't argue with that, i am only arguing with the proposed solution of "killing all zionists" to grant the world freedom, it was a very similar argument that hitler used and cheney uses against arabs.
sane
WRONG, sane, since Zionists are pure EVIL and are ones doing all this pure evil stuff! Like the man said, Zionists are NOT same a Jews! STOP defending Zionists, sane!
9-11 truther | 07.21.07 - 2:03 am | #
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oh man the hate sniper comes out from beyond the grassy knoll for a head shot, hahahaha


Yet we fight and bicker amongst ourselves, while they laugh and mock us for being so easily misled and deceived; whilst they contend for eternal life amongst the stars, they will be damned by their own lust for power and worship. They will reign in HELL!!!


And there not just "globalists", they are "universalists".....meaning THEY (ILLUMINATI) want it ALL!!!! Probably why they say the meek shall inherit the earth.....They love to keep us confounded in our scripts......passing out religions like candy.


Aside from arising from exile, all the deeds of the Zionists are diametrically opposed to the Faith and the Torah. Because the foundation of the Faith and Torah of Israel is that the Torah was revealed from heaven, and there is reward for those who obey it and punishment for those who transgress it. The entire People of Israel is required to obey the Torah, and whoever doesn't want to, ceases to be part of the congregation of Israel.


can't argue with that, i am only arguing with the proposed solution of "killing all zionists" to grant the world freedom, it was a very similar argument that hitler used and cheney uses against arabs.
sane
WRONG, sane, since Zionists are pure EVIL and are ones doing all this pure evil stuff! Like the man said, Zionists are NOT same a Jews! STOP defending Zionists, sane!


I am just concerned that you are creating division by calling a subset the root cause
sane
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I haven't created or tried to create a division anywhere.
Why would I do that.
I just spoke the truth.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 1:48 am | #

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Saying zionism is the definition of illuminati creates division.

pagans-knights templar-scottish rite-illuminati

illuminati created...

kkk

zionism

thule society-nazi's

skull and bones

freemasons

etc, etc

oh and of course, do not leave out the vatican assassins-the jesuits


I am just concerned that you are creating division by calling a subset the root cause
sane
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I haven't created or tried to create a division anywhere.
Why would I do that.
I just spoke the truth.


They are One World Government shit heads.
Illuminati is Illuminati no matter what name they take.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 1:37 am | #
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no doubt, I am just concerned that you are creating division by calling a subset the root cause while the wizards behind the curtain escape justice yet again.

Millions of germans were slaghtered under the same pretext of riding the world of the fascist NWO fuckheads while the elites escaped justice via project paperclip, gladio, etc.

Same as the elite taliban getting flown out of afghanistan while a million innocent muslims get slaughtered.


They are One World Government shit heads.
Illuminati is Illuminati no matter what name they take.


A zionist is also called ANTI-CHRIST and Anti-God. The true Jewish people are strongly against zionists.

http://iwilltryit.com/zion1.htm
Steve | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 1:31 am |

can't argue with that, i am only arguing with the proposed solution of "killing all zionists" to grant the world freedom, it was a very similar argument that hitler used and cheney uses against arabs.


A zionist is also called ANTI-CHRIST and Anti-God. The true Jewish people are strongly against zionists.

http://iwilltryit.com/zion1.htm
Steve | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 1:31 am | #
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Thank You Sir.
They are One World Government shitheads.
Illuminati


The people that want to destroy our Republic are right in line with the Socialist Zionist Party out of Israel.
The Zionist party has a lot of influence in America, and they lobby very hard to get Congress to achieve what their political views are.
That is just a fact.
And they will use every tactic they can to archive their political goals.
Including calling and branding ANYONE that disagrees with them as an anti-Semite.
Come on sane, you are smarter than that.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 1:26 am | #
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Everything you are saying can be accounted for under the theory that zionism is just another pagan hijacked tool like the vatican or the christian right, or even the republican party.

however your theory cannot account for the nazi youth pope's influence over the US, the christian right's influence, Aquino, Cheney, Putin, all of south america and asia, etc.

it is global elite wizards who use things like zionism as cannon fodder to protect themselves by dividing the masses into thinking it is one race/religion/nation/political party/etc.

they change costumes to keep us one step behind.

well look 2 steps forward and there ain't no zionists, just a bunch of pagan elites who distracted us yet again with such enemies like "zionists" as we headed willingly into the elites plan for world slavery.


A zionist is also called ANTI-CHRIST and Anti-God. The true Jewish people are strongly against zionists.

http://iwilltryit.com/zion1.htm


zionism is like saying vaticanism or chritian rightism or evangelicalism or neoconnism, they are petty groups used and disposed of as necessary and shift their philosophies from fascism to communism as necessary
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 1:19 am | #
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I think you pretty much have it sane.
It is the same shit under a different name.


The world of Bush Jr.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...947554308578197


sane.
I have tried to explain it as straifgt forward and as plain as i know how.
If you truly do not understand what i am saying, there is nothing I can say to make you see it.
You will just have to go and a lot of reading.
The people that want to destroy our Republic are right in line with the Socialist Zionist Party out of Israel.
The Zionist party has a lot of influence in America, and they lobby very hard to get Congress to achieve what their political views are.
That is just a fact.
And they will use every tactic they can to archive their political goals.
Including calling and branding ANYONE that disagrees with them as an anti-Semite.
Come on sane, you are smarter than that.


sorry, fascism or corporatism or socialism or communism leads to elitism

zionism is like saying vaticanism or chritian rightism or evangelicalism or neoconnism, they are petty groups used and disposed of as necessary and shift their philosophies from fascism to communism as necessary


>>"The basic principle of modern feminism appears to be that men and women are the same, that any observable differences are superficial and unimportant"

No it isn't. This man sounds like a male feminist (complete with his hysterical rantings about boy behaviors). Feminists claim that women are lifegivers and men are degenerate filth:

"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men." Elizabeth Cady Stanton (early feminist suffragette)

"Rational men want to be squashed, stepped on, crushed and crunched, treated as the curs, the filth that they are, have their repulsiveness confirmed." (Valerie Solanas, SCUM manifesto)

"Men love death. In everything they make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, stilling their sobs as they mourn the emptiness and alienation of their lives." -- Andrea Dworkin


Right now in the world we live in,if you talk bad about the direction of the republican party, you are a traitor or a terrorist.
If you disagree with the Zionist party, you are an anti-Semite.
Same shit, different name.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 1:06 am | #

WTF??????

where is the zionist party, who is its leader?

who the hell is called an anti-semite by disagreeing with this abstract concept.

I think people are questioning if someone is anti-semitic when they say ignorant things like "zionist controlled media" when it is controlled by illuminati global energy/military/pharmaceutical companies.


fascism of socialism and Zionismit doesn't frickin matter they both lead to elitism.


Marjorie Kidman,
The word Zionism or Zionist is never mentioned in the Bible.
The word Zion in the Bible has absolutely nothing to do with Zionism or Zionist.
Honey, please, Do Your Homework!!
Do not confuse religion for politics.


There are a lot of Jewish people that want a true " Democratic" Government.
But the Zionist want a Socialist Government.
It is as simple as that.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 1:02 am | #
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I don't think anyone on this board wants a democratic government, they want a constitutional republic that has democratically elected public servents....get it servents...the government SERVES us, we do not SERVE the government.

fascism of socialism it doesn't frickin matter they both lead to elitism.

stop fighting progressive socialists and progressive conservatives. we need to band together and fight the elites who are pinning us against each other, watch this patriot letting go of his differences to bring back the constitution and restore this country to its foundation that made her great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...LJcGvBCFo& eurl=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...related& search=


I do not know how beautiful it was from the beginning
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Sane, read II Samuel chapter 7.


Right now in the world we live in,if you talk bad about the direction of the republican party, you are a traitor or a terrorist.
If you disagree with the Zionist party, you are an anti-Semite.
Same shit, different name.


c'mon this is low level bs and represents again a subset of the larger "zionists control the media" issue.
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 12:49 am | #
sane,
right now we have a republican controlled media.
The Zionist are a political, Jewish party.
Just like a republican or a democrat.
Why is this so hard for Americans to understand this fact? Because they have been conditioned by the evangelist and the media.
There are a lot of Jewish people that want a true " Democratic" Government.
But the Zionist want a Socialist Government.
It is as simple as that.


A Nation down the Drain ( Jesus Camp ) part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...related& search=

Talk about pagans hijacking a religion, look at how they operate with small town christian children.....


65 minutes of Ron Paul answering the toughest questions ever put to him by the super elite mensa crew at Google.

I wonder how the other candidates answered such touch questions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...M_wQy4YVg& eurl=


It has absolutely nothing to do with religion.
oldman | 07.21.07 - 12:54 am | #
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Dude, the word Zion is a hebrew word/letter. She is pointing out that illuminati has hijacked the word to make it a sign of evil kinda like the vatican does every day with christianity and fucking with jesus' words and the words of both the new and old testament.

the pagans take a religion and totally fuck with it.


Harry Potter is the Devil - JESUS CAMP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...IYsGVyg8M& eurl=
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As a side note, I do believe that Harry Potter is an illuminati propaganda series, but this lady is frickin nuts!!!!!!


The Bible says "Zion" (or Sion) is David
Marjorie Kidman
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You must be really confused.
Zionism is a socialist party.
It began as the socialist labor party.
It has absolutely nothing to do with religion.


July 20, 2007
Moving to New Office
http://blog.ronpaul2008.com/ron_...g-to-new- o.html
Campaign headquarters will be closed today. We're moving to a bigger office. Photos will be posted after we get the place up and running.


The Beginnings of Socialist Zionism
http://www.wpunj.edu/~newpol/iss.../ schulman35.htm
oldman | 07.21.07 - 12:44 am | #
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c'mon this is low level bs and represents again a subset of the larger "zionists control the media" issue.


Old man: No matter what it has turned into, the name "Zion" comes from the very roots of the House of Judah or Judaism through David. They own that word.


This is just a scare story, if ya know what I mean!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 07.21.07 - 12:39 am | #
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couldn't last 30 seconds in the "green zone"


The Beginnings of Socialist Zionism
http://www.wpunj.edu/~newpol/iss.../ schulman35.htm


"She's pointing that there's something in the front," he said. "I said, 'Let me come down and take a look,' and I saw a little soldier on it and I said, 'Whoa, that's a missile launcher or something!'"

Quinn says he originally thought the launcher was just a pipe, but after noticing the picture of the soldier -- which he described as a soldier kneeling and holding a launcher -- he realized it looked similar to a missile launcher he'd seen on television.

"I got scared myself," he said. "It looked like a bazooka, and right away you think what does somebody want with something like that?"

isnt that special, some gangster lost his launcher in a drunken stupor or worse,and this poor "civilian" found it and wuz skeered,awwww, dont ya feel her pain? This is just a scare story, if ya know what I mean!


The Bible says "Zion" (or Sion) is David. David was of the House of Judah. Except for a couple of things, David was a great leader and gained great favor from God. Jesus is a direct decendent of David through David's sons Solomon and also Nathan (from both his mother and father Joseph's lineage).

I believe the name "Zionism" has been taken over and has been changed from something that was originally very pure and beautiful, and turned it into something with an evil connotation.
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 12:26 am | #
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I do not know how beautiful it was from the beginning, but millions belived it was as they had no one else to turn to [again a very clever illuminati method].

Also, before the illuminati hijacking of zionism, jews and muslims lived in peace for over 1,000 years. many jews were in the highest offices of arab countries [and still are], when hitler came to morrocco and said "give us all your jews," the king said, "if you take the jews, you take all of us, we are the same"

This whole jewish/arab conflict has been mind controll created via false flag terror and propaganda over the past 50 years. it is so fucking crazy. it is the same way iran-contra revealed how we exacerbated sunni/shia conflict for decades.


I have a news paper article where Bushie Boy says that radical Muslims flew planes into the WTC and the heat from jrt fuel made them turn to dust too.
Does it make it so?
oldman | 07.21.07 - 12:22 am | #

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I believe what happened to the Serbians is an atrocity. They occupied Serbia for 1000 years and were forced to let ethnic Albanian Muslems into their country by the United Nations in 1945. The Albanians proliferated and flourished and with the help of NATO in the 1990's were able to take the Serb's country away from them. Even Bush recently went over there and encouraged that the Albanians officially are now the occupiers of that country (now called Albania). My point is that a supposed Christian prophet of a Christian church is supposed to be able to state truths and prophesy righteously and correctly. In my opinion, he did not, which says something more about him.


The Life and Death of Socialist Zionism
http://dmoz.org/Society/Politics...ionism/History/


Keep up the great work Sane. You are the one and only Energizer Bunny!!
Anonymous | 07.21.07 - 12:28 am | #
Sane rocks, but PLEASE Anon, get a nic!
Elmer Fudd is free! lol


Aust could become US nuclear waste dump: expert
By David Mark

Posted Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:36pm AEST
Updated Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:10pm AEST


Foreign Minister Alexander Downer says nuclear cooperation talks with the US could lead to Australia joinng a new global nuclear group. (ABC TV)
The nuclear genie has escaped the bottle once again, with confirmation today that Australia is talking to the United States about nuclear cooperation.

Critics of the Federal Government argue Australia is being courted by the US about nuclear cooperation so that it will become the world's nuclear waste dump.

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer says talks with the US about nuclear cooperation could lead to Australia joining a new nuclear group known as the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership (GNEP).

The partnership includes the US, Russia, Japan, China and France, and aims to keep information about nuclear technology and the disposal of waste within the nuclear club.

But the Labor Party and environmentalists say they do not trust assurances by the Federal Government that Australia will not accept nuclear waste.

Mr Downer claims that the US approached Australia.

"The United States Department of Energy came to us and suggested we might be interested in negotiating some sort of update agreement of the 1982 agreement on nuclear cooperation, particularly in areas like research and development, and safeguards," he said.

He says it is all about developing a safer nuclear industry.

"It's a real possibility that we could build a relationship with the Americans under the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership (GNEP) but their work on that isn't even finished yet," he said.

"But in general terms, we are absolutely in favour of working with them on safeguards on research and development, looking for safer and better ways of developing the peaceful nuclear industry, the nuclear power industry. Why wouldn't we be?"

mY THOUGHTS,
THESE THUGGS ARE GONNA KEEP ON DOING THEIR PLAN UNLESS FORCED TO STOP.


Bush's nuclear plan

Last year, US President George W Bush announced his plans to form the GNEP and this May, some of the world's other major nuclear powers signed on.

Under the plan, the entire nuclear cycle would be kept within this nuclear club, from control over nuclear fuel to reprocessing and disposal of waste.

Disposal of nuclear waste is exactly why the critics are sceptical about today's news that Australia is talking nuclear with the US.

Opposition spokesman for climate change and the environment Peter Garrett says he does not think the Government is particularly credible on the issue.

"The first thing to point out is that the Liberal Party Federal Council in June of this year unanimously called on Australia to embrace worldwide nuclear waste storage, including for remote areas that Australia has to offer," he said.

"Minister [Mark] Vaile has said we need to be open-minded about it, and with discussions under way between America and Australia that we knew nothing about, I think all roads lead to Rome."

Today the Government was on the defensive.

"We have a policy of not accepting nuclear waste and we're certainly not in the game of changing that policy, we've made that very clear to the Americans," Mr Downer said.

But Prime Minister John Howard clarified that the Government's policy was not to accept other people's waste.

Mr Downer also appeared to leave the door open to storing nuclear waste in the future.

"To the best of my knowledge at the moment, enrichment in any case is not commercially viable in Australia, so it's not likely to happen," he said.

But Mr Garrett has been quick to respond.

"That's Mr Downer seeking to lessen the political damage that inevitably would result as a consequence of these discussions becoming public," he said.


Keep up the great work Sane. You are the one and only Energizer Bunny!!


I believe the name "Zionism" has been taken over and has been changed from something that was originally very pure and beautiful, and turned it into something with an evil connotation.
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 12:26 am | #
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Honey,
Go back to sleep, it's all going to be all right.


Do you even know what a zionist is?
sane | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 11:45 pm | #
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Yes sane, sadly I do.
As I have stated before, Zionism is political view.
It has absolutely nothing to do with being Jewish.
There are a lot of White American Zionist.
There are a lot Christian Zionist.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 11:51 pm | #
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The Bible says "Zion" (or Sion) is David. David was of the House of Judah. Except for a couple of things, David was a great leader and gained great favor from God. Jesus is a direct decendent of David through David's sons Solomon and also Nathan (from both his mother and father Joseph's lineage).

I believe the name "Zionism" has been taken over and has been changed from something that was originally very pure and beautiful, and turned it into something with an evil connotation.


Sane:you got to be a jew,talk about cointell shit,your it man.terry old man in fla
Endtimetruther | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 12:09 am | #

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Terry,

I don't know where you get off. But check your Bible Mr Endtimestruther..... The jews are chosen and at the same time "lost" and must be redeemed. But they have a purpose nonetheless. As far as your broadbrushing "Jew" crap, go read Revelation. It says that I know those who say they are Jew and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. That hardly pronounces judgement on the "Jews" but rather those who pretend to have faith in God and yet are involved in the inner workings of darkness, leading many astray. You are being deceived.....


A newspaper article I have quotes Gordon Hinckley as saying, "Can you imagine Christians acting like this?"
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 12:12 am | #
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I have a news paper article where Bushie Boy says that radical Muslims flew planes into the WTC and the heat from jrt fuel made them turn to dust too.
Does it make it so?


you guys can all testify that somebody owes me a big fucking paycheck!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 12:16 am | #
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ABSOLUTELY sane.
Are you buying the beer after you collect?
oldman | 07.21.07 - 12:19 am | #
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shit if i was being paid for all the "disinfo" I am supposedly spreading, rather than running a jackhammer through the matrix out of a sense of self preservation, I could buy the world a beer.


you guys can all testify that somebody owes me a big fucking paycheck!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 12:16 am | #
_________________________________________________
ABSOLUTELY sane.
Are you buying the beer after you collect?


Sane:you got to be a jew,talk about cointell shit,your it man.terry old man in fla
Endtimetruther | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 12:09 am | #

i believe that I have answered this on numerous occassions already....

i am a jew, a christian, a buddhist, a muslim, a hindu, etc.

i read the writings in the new and old testament, i believe in jesus, i believe in mohammed being a prophet, i believe in the q'uoran, lao tzu, buddha, etc.

i love god and god loves me back.

as far as being cointelpro, if that is so...

you guys can all testify that somebody owes me a big fucking paycheck!!!!!!!


In March, 1999, through NATO, the U.S. began bombing Serbia, ostensibly to "save the (Muslim)ethnic Albanians from the atrocities of (Orthodox Christian) Serbians", following an undisclosed agenda to establish the authority of a "New World Order", which I call InterNaziism, disguised as humanitarianism

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A newspaper article I have quotes Gordon Hinckley as saying, "Can you imagine Christians acting like this?"


But it is more than that. This is more of the internal hassidic jew v. zionist jew issue. wheras what I am talking about is the whole zionist power issue where anyone with some reading skills can find out that zionist are just another pyramid secret society group that was hijacked by illuminati paganists that seek to rule the earth like the pharohs did.
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 12:06 am | #
___________ Yes sane,
I do agree with you.


Sane:you got to be a jew,talk about cointell shit,your it man.terry old man in fla


But it is more than that. This is more of the internal hassidic jew v. zionist jew issue. wheras what I am talking about is the whole zionist power issue where anyone with some reading skills can find out that zionist are just another pyramid secret society group that was hijacked by illuminati paganists that seek to rule the earth like the pharohs did.
sane | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 12:06 am | #

So, then, are we skeered e nuff now?FRIGGIN WOSSIES!
"TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND DO NOT LEAN ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING"


the

prison

is


open,


but hobodys nome.


http://thumbsnap.com/v/5TFEwb2o.jpg
oldman | 07.20.07 - 11:56 pm | #
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Nice!!!!

But it is more than that. This is more of the internal hassidic jew v. zionist jew issue. wheras what I am talking about is the whole zionist power issue where anyone with some reading skills can find out that zionist are just another pyramid secret society group that was hijacked by illuminati paganists that seek to rule the earth like the pharohs did.


Do you even know what a zionist is?
sane | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 11:45 pm | #
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Yes sane, sadly I do.
As I have stated before, Zionism is political view.
It has absolutely nothing to do with being Jewish.
There are a lot of White American Zionist.
There are a lot Christian Zionist.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 11:51 pm | #
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Zionism was set up out of Illuminati chaos theory:

problem: random genocide of jews worldwide

reaction: jews need protection

solution: zionism to create a state that protects jews

Then...

Fuckheads all over the world including some powerful jews declined to allow jews from nazi germany to escape to create another "chaos theory" solution:

problem: jews are really being slaughtered

reaction: we need to help the jews

solution: give them a part of palestine and give non jews there the other part of palestine

then...

fuckhead sharon works with Lovett, Clifford, and Harriman as well as ex-Nazis to dump the abdulla/jewish peace accord and only create a jewish state ensuring long lasting tension in the Middle East that could be controlled by US military industrial complex [have you read the Lovett "firecracker" memo???]
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1

then mossad is created by illuminati MI5/CIA/ex-Nazis to ensure long lasting fun in the middle east and always leaving a jewish/zionist scapegoat for the crimes against humanity, yippppeeeee!!!!!!


http://thumbsnap.com/v/5TFEwb2o.jpg


Pentagon Aliens - CONCLUSION
In his original foundations for the Bavarian Illuminati, officially instituted by Adam Weishaupt on May 1,1776, his stated purposes were good: "Princes and nations will disappear... Reason will be the only code of man. " Weishaupt recognized no divine power outside of Man, and often referred to "...Nature and Nature's God". The original purposes of the Declaration of Independence stated by Thomas Jefferson and other American revolutionaries, on Jury 4, 1776—only two months after Weishaupt's declaration—were good, also referring to "...Nature and Nature's God", just as Weishaupt had done. The original purposes of Michael Bakunin, in the founding of his Internationale (the Alliance Internationale Sociale Democratique), in Switzerland, in 1864, was good...seeking an instrument to destroy the tyranny of the confiscatory state, and motivated by a genuine horror of his own experiences under despotism. The original purposes of Theodor Hertzl, in calling together the first International Zionist Congress, of March, 1897, in Basle, Switzerland, were good, advocating that "...sovereignty be granted us over a portion of the globe large enough to satisfy the rightful requirements of a nation," intended by Hertzl to be guided by the individualistic premises of Friedrich Nietzsche. The problem with these and similar endeavors, is that the Pseudo-Illuminati—by whatever name we know of it—lurks behind the scenes, more ruthless, powerful, and thorough than ever, always poised to take over and convert all organizations to its own use, in a manner diametrically opposite to its stated purposes. Organizations and movements originally intended to create a new religion of "reason and nature", were converted into ones for the mass psychological mind control of society, using religion, political mysticism and superstition to prohibit the higher development of mankind, to conceal technology, truth and higher knowledge, and to create and maintain a false economic dependence on Illuminati-controlled governments and the archaic technology of Illuminati industries. Meanwhile, the medical establishments and world health organizations are controlled and used to distribute and conceal population control methods developed and expedited by secret military weapons laboratories, so as to maintain world populations at "controllable levels". The Illuminati, hypocritically styling itself as the "...Bringer of Light and Knowledge...", preys upon the sincere beliefs of religious people, and promotes irrational, mystical, superstitious or exploitative ideas or means, contrary to what might have been initially good purposes, showing the consciously designed, sociopathic conspiracy to control the world through deceitfully planned ignorance, mysticism, dependency, and the promotion and exploitation of weakness. Philosophy—the "master control" of rational scientific thinking—has its "first laws"...irreducible primaries which must first be accepted by presupposition, before further rational thought may proceed. These first laws must rest on the facts of reality, before we can reach other reliable conclusions, such as that involving a possible 'origin'...if there was an origin...of the universe. This question was first begged in religious 'creationist' myths of the most infantile sort, just as UFOlogists begged the question that flying saucers are extraterrestrial. A god in the image of man, space aliens in the image of man, and 'extraterrestrial' flying saucers in the image of man-made flying saucers. On the issues of God, the Big Bang, Space Aliens, and Flying Saucers, rational people have been crowded into a corner as the 'nut cases', defending the "irrational" positions of the nonexistence of God, the infinity of the universe, the absence of evidence of aliens, and the terrestrial origins of flying saucers. That time has now ended. The Big Liars can prevail only by exerting absolute control over the press, public speech, and the media. They are now frantically multiplying their redundant Tired Old Big Lies in the public media. The Illuminati eventually came to secretly advocate the use of unethical and murderous methods by its members, to cause unnecessary struggle and conflict of every kind, and to exploit mystical religious or political organizations, racial concentrationism, and military nationalism, in order to set up conflicts needed to create constant chaos and instability, in the midst of which they maintain and increase their wealth and economic control. The Jesuit and Masonic orders fell to Illuminati control, as did Bakunin's Anarchist Internationale (expropriated by Marx and his Communists). The American Government fell to Illuminati control, via exploitation of the conveniently covert natures of the CIA, FBI, NSA, the Masonic Order, the Jesuits, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Bilderberg group. After the 1919 failure of "Morgenthau's Pastoral Policy" to exterminate the "German race", at the end of WW I, the S.S. was formed later that same year, as an experiment in mass psychological control, financed by the World Bankers, the Rockefeller Commission (now the Trilateral Commission), acting through the S.S., under the auspices of the Hogg Foundation for Mental Health and "Eugenics Program" of the University of Texas, and the American Psychiatric Association. Their purpose was the control of the world through religion. To this end, a new religion, called "OSTARA "—'designed' by Georg Lanz von Liebenfels—was promoted through the S.S. and the Thule Society. This new Nazi religion used ancient religious mythology as its basis, falsely depicting the 'gods' as "aliens". For example, the Egyptian God of Darkness, Apepi (Apophis), a serpent, was claimed to be a "reptilian alien god" which lived under the Great Pyramid at Giza. In the mass-psychology experiment, the Nazi alien religion was used to stretch the credulity of the German people, so they would believe whatever Big Lies their government told them. It was decided in 1923 that Adolf Hitler was to lead the German people in this experiment, to culminate in a mass suicide of the German people, in a "Wagnerian tragedy", then to fake his own suicide and make his secret exit. After the fall of Germany, and "destruction of the weak", the Illuminati "New World Order" was to come into being in 1945, as the United Nations. Hitler handed over the flying saucer secrets to his benefactors in the Trilateral Commission, in a secret deal cut between the World Bankers and Industrialists, Trilateralists, CFR, Rockefellers and the Nazis, with the U. S. government acting as "security guard." The Nazi alien religion has since been promoted covertly by the U. S. government to conceal the flying saucer secrets, so that "UFOs" can be depicted as "alien technology", and kept from the people. With the fall of the Soviet State, the U.S. political leadership soon began to bully and officiously intermeddle into the affairs of smaller, troubled, disadvantaged countries. Wars, pseudo-justified as "humanitarianism", are incredibly lucrative for IllumiNazi war industries. In March, 1999, through NATO, the U.S. began bombing Serbia, ostensibly to "save the (Muslim)ethnic Albanians from the atrocities of (Orthodox Christian) Serbians", following an undisclosed agenda to establish the authority of a "New World Order", which I call InterNaziism, disguised as humanitarianism. After the French Revolution of 1789, Robbespierre became known as "the humanitarian with a guillotine," in a "reign of terror". An "humanitarian with laser-guided bombs" is no less a terrorist, and has no business sticking the American nose into an ancient, foreign religious squabble, using this "wedge" as a pretext to establish world InterNazi authority. The mainstay of the IllumiNazis are their monopoly of energy, minerals, raw materials, war materiel and military weaponry, related technology, and the media and communications industries through which they control information. The flying saucer represents their single most important technology, the continued secrecy of which is indispensable to the maintenance of Illuminati world control, because of its incredible fuel efficiency, speed, and electrical performance characteristics—all of which conveniently make the hoax more convincing—which mandates a priority of utmost urgency, to be pursued by them "at all costs". That is the reason these secrets have thus far remained concealed behind the Nazi "alien" religion. Meanwhile, our physicists and aeronautical engineers stand idly by in their dumb government jobs with their thumbs up their butts, awaiting their next checks. The exact same Nazi alien religion is being promoted covertly today by the U. S. government and the Illuminati, through fancy, well-financed TV productions, books, movies, UFOlogy and New Age groups, which spread the lie that flying saucers are "extraterrestrial", to serve the dual purpose of concealing flying saucer technology and hypnotizing the American masses. We have an InterNazi government.

IN THE NAME OF THE FREEDOM-LOVING PEOPLES OF THE WORLD, I HEREBY TAKE BACK THE FLYING SAUCER SECRETS THE ILLUMINATI STOLE FROM US, SO THAT WE MAY LIBERATE OURSELVES FROM THE ILLUMINATI, AND CREATE A PROSPEROUS NEW FREE WORLD CIVILIZATION, BASED ON THE CREATIVE PROCESS, INDIVIDUALITY, PEACEFUL LIFESTYLES, FREE TRADE, FREE TRA VEL, AND LITTLE OR NO GOVERNMENT

http://www.scribd.com/word/downl...6? extension=pdf


Do you even know what a zionist is?
sane | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 11:45 pm | #
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Yes sane, sadly I do.
As I have stated before, Zionism is political view.
It has absolutely nothing to do with being Jewish.
There are a lot of White American Zionist.
There are a lot Christian Zionist.


All major media in the English speaking world is run by Zionist.
And let's please not get into the Zionist thing.
No I do not hate the Jewish people.
I hate Zionist.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 11:40 pm | #
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Au Contraire ...

I thought we went over this already...less than 21% at the top 2 levels...

less than 10% at the top 3 levels...

less than 5% at the top 4 levels...

etc. etc.

>>CEOS IN THE MEDIA IN AMERICA

National Amusement (CBS/Viacom): Sumner Redstone
Subsidiaries:
-Viacom: Philippe P. Dauman
-CBS: Les Moonves

GE (NBC): Jeffrey Immelt
Subsidiary:
-NBC: Jeff Zucker took over in 2/6/2007 from Robert C. Wright [After the insanity of the Cheney regime]

Disney: John E. Pepper Chairman/Bob Iger CEO
Subsidiaries:
-ABC: Ann Sweeney
-Walt Disney Studios: Dick Cook

Time Warner: Dick Parsons
Subsidiaries:
-AOL: Randel Falco
-Turner Broadcasting: Philip Kent
-Time: Ann Moore
-Time Warner Cable: Don Logan

News Corp: Rupert Murdoch
Subsidiaries:
-Fox Broadcasting: Pres. Ed Wilson [no ceo/chairman]
-Fox Filmed Entertainment: Jim Gianopulos/Tom Rothman [co-chairs]
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Sources:
http://www.onesource.com
http://forbes.com
Company websites
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Do you even know what a zionist is?


Kuhn's Pro Nazi Rally at Madison Square Garden 2/2/1939
http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/b...4/ msg00259.html

Hearst newsreel cameramen filmed almost 10 minutes of the one at Madison Square Garden on Feb 20, 1939, but none of it was used in their twice weekly newsreel NEWS OF THE DAY. UCLA preserved this footage as part of the NEH "Prelude to War" project several years ago. "Prelude to War" was released as a set of video tapes. The Archive Research and Study Center at UCLA has a copy available for viewing, and I understand a few other institutions have copies as well, including the University of Louisville. If you want to persue this further, in addition to looking up the German American Bund, I would recommend searching for "Fritz Kuhn" who was the main speaker at that event. (Later in 1939 Hearst's newsreel did cover Kuhn's arrest and conviction for forgery and larceny calling him a "would-be American Fuehrer".)

UCLA's cataloging record gives the following description of what Hearst's cameramen filmed:

Various long high shots of the massing of colors, crowds, recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance, and Fritz Kuhn speaking. In one disturbance, Ethel Moses is escorted out by police; in another, "a man named Greenbaum jumped on stage and tried to reach Kuhn but was stopped by police and Nazis [and] taken from platform but minus his pants, lost in the fracas." In Kuhn’s speech, he mocks his description by the "Jewish-controlled press" as the devil, saying he has "not the honor to be in the confidence" of Hitler, who according to press reports, must be too busy planning the seizure of the Ukraine, liquidating the Monroe Doctrines, and [accepting?] the invitation of New Jersey, to devote time to Kuhn; the Bund is opposed to no form of religion and is in complete accord with the Bill of Rights; it is actively fighting for a social[ly] just white Gentile-ruled U.S., and Gentile-controlled labor unions free from Jewish Moscow-directed domination. Closes with various shots of police and protesters outside the Garden.

Blaine M. Bartell
Senior Newsreel Preservationist
UCLA Film and Television Archive
tel. 323-462-4921 x26
fax. 323-469-9055
bbartell@ucla.edu
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Are we gonna go back to Kuhn's claim from 1939 to describe the reason for the problems with America?


OK folks, here's a scenario. Bush goes to sleep, never wakes up.

Cheney takes over, but he has a heart attack and dies.

Nancy Pelosi becomes the first female president and then as new commander n chief ends the Iraq war and brings our troops home.

Then a week later bush wakes up and says "What the heck"!


Could you explain to me what a "Zionist run news media" is?
sane | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 11:35 pm | #
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Let's see.
All but the very few.
You are kidding me, right?
All major media in the English speaking world is run by Zionist.
And let's please not get into the Zionist thing.
No I do not hate the Jewish people.
I hate Zionist.


RE: PAPER CLIP DOLLS
Is there no end to the madness?
Are these people human?
Who could hurt a child?
I can not even imagine gaining the trust of an innocent child and hurting them, how sick can a person get and their family and friends not see it?
How can anyone that does the atrocities that have been done in this world live with themselves?
A lot of questions with answers that i will never be able to understand.


Zionist run news media.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 11:23 pm | #

Could you explain to me what a "Zionist run news media" is?


PAPER CLIP DOLLS

Lynns' Page Extended BibliographyPaperclip Dolls. Self Published, 1999. O'Brien, Cathy. ... MKULTRA: The CIA's Top Screet Program in Human Experimentation and Behavioral Modification. ...
http://www.lynnsart.net/biblio.htm - 14k - Cached - Similar pages

[CTRL] Paperclip Dolls by Annie McKenna"PAPERCLIP DOLLS, would tell you how Jerry most likely became the paranoid adult ... PAPERCLIP DOLLS might be described as a psychothriller involving covert ...
http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl...m/ msg95048.html - 9k - Cached - Similar pages

CIA Experiments with Mind Control on ChildrenEventually, people from the inner core of the CIA program filmed each other, ... Paper Clip Dolls --->> http://www.paperclipdolls.com/ht.../html/ book.html ...
http://homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/i...7957/ index.html - 13k - Cached - Similar pages

Conspiracy Planet - Review: Book: 'Secret Weapons' by Ted Schwarz ...As a propagandist (the CIA has an actual job title called "strategic .... read "Paperclip Dolls" by Annie McKenna, an intelligently written book about ...
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/...iewid=20& page=2 - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

Ted Schwarz WhitewashesTed Schwarz is an apologist for CIA mind control atrocities. .... read "Paperclip Dolls" by Annie McKenna, an intelligently written book about survival in ...
http://www.meta-religion.com/ Sec...es_cia_mind.htm - 23k - Cached - Similar pages

Child Sexual Abuse and the Shadow World of Freemasonry, Satanism ...Paper Clip Dolls: Project Monarch, MK-ULTRA, Mind Control and Project Paperclip ... operation for CIA mind control and child-sex entrapment operations. ...
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/ F...exual_abuse.htm - 55k - Cached - Similar pages

Calamity Kim: Paper Doll Party Hat Swap!!! A Cool Way To PlayListed below are links to weblogs that reference Paper Doll Party Hat Swap! .... Cia's Palette - Fabric for quilting, sewing and fabric art ...
http://calamitykim.typepad.com/c...-doll- part.html - 85k - Jul 19, 2007 -

Antiques : By Period, Style : Restoration :Magnificent 22" CIA (C.I.A.) MANNA Italy Classic Lady - Restoration .... Base has a neat spot for paper clips or whatever- rewired for safety. ...
http://search.rubylane.com/ antiq...,id=4.5.51.html - 55k - Jul 19, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages

SMARTNEWS's Issue #28 - Sept. '99"Paperclip Dolls - One Survivor's Story of Remembering and Healing" .... United States, a litigation for the Canadian victims of CIA brainwashing ...
http://members.aol.com/smartnews...le-Issue- 28.htm - 54k - Cached - Similar pages


http://www.brasschecktv.com/page.../page...m/page/ 108.html

This is amazing.
I have never seen this.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 9:52 pm | #

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yes it sure is. nice find. I know alex jones isnt going to play with the "no plane theory" but it fits.
I knew that morning it was pearl harbor new york
my dad laughed, knowing it was correct and he wasnt worried about what happened that day, but what they were going to use it all for.
Sees Things | 07.20.07 - 11:04 pm | #
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September Clues was the first to move me into the "not passenger planes but some sort of military projectile" world.

There needs to be much more of this.

Excellent work!
sane | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 11:12 pm | #

I knew that!
pendeko | 07.20.07 - 11:16 pm | #
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The one that amazes me is the fact that that 17 first hand witnesses that spewed their crap on the morning of the crime, and they all worked for the Zionist run news media.
What a crock of shit the people of this world were fed.
And what amazes me is there are people right here in my town that actually believe that Ben did it.
DUH.


Paper Clip DollsPaper Clip Dolls: Project Monarch, MK-ULTRA, Mind Control and Project Paperclip .... as an unwitting subject in the CIA's top secret project, MK-Ultra. ...
http://www.the7thfire.com/ Politi..._clip_dolls.htm - 69k -

rene5.htmThe U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, or CIA, has a technology to put itself well ... Youngsters can play paper doll-like games of dressing up spies in a ...
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literacyconnection4http://www.odci.gov/cia/ ciakids/index.html. Cool Science for Curious Kids ... Paper Dolls-Portal- history of paper dolls, paper dolls to print ...
http://www.tamucc.edu/~sgarrett/...rrett/ sites.htm - 22k - Cached - Similar pages


YA THINK???????????????????????


"Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said. "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said.


Canada's top court rules pointing and saying "Bang" is the same as real gun
sane
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I swear, the judges that ruled on that need to removed from the bench, NOW.
Are these people out of their fucking mind?
Where is reality in this world anymore?
Sometimes I am glad to old, I can't stand much more madness.


http://www.brasschecktv.com/page.../page...m/page/ 108.html

This is amazing.
I have never seen this.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 9:52 pm | #

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yes it sure is. nice find. I know alex jones isnt going to play with the "no plane theory" but it fits.
I knew that morning it was pearl harbor new york
my dad laughed, knowing it was correct and he wasnt worried about what happened that day, but what they were going to use it all for.
Sees Things | 07.20.07 - 11:04 pm | #
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September Clues was the first to move me into the "not passenger planes but some sort of military projectile" world.

There needs to be much more of this.

Excellent work!
sane | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 11:12 pm | #

I knew that!


Just as the Catholic Priests have been exposed in their cover-up sexual abuse, Gordon B. Hinckley and other LDS Hierarchy need to be exposed in their corruption. Gordon B. Hinckley is responsible for the theft of the "Lord's Gold Mine" (Bullfrog Mine, Nevada) while he served on Zion's Bank Board. Afterall, who would dare to make war with the anti-Christ? (see "Daniels Prophecy" on this website)
In Cathy O'Brien's book she quotes Senator Byrd member of the KuKluxKlan justifying the atrocities of mind control/torture/sexual abuse to bring about the prophesied One World Order Millennium of Peace and states that afterall the Pope and the Mormon Prophet are fully in support of the MKUltra mind control program.
sane | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 6:06 pm | #

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Try to find the book, "Paper Dolls." It's about the following story:

A few years back I talked with a mother whose daughter had been sexually abused along with about 8 or 10 other children in Bountiful, Utah (in about 1988 or 89). The group perpertrating the neighborhood sex ring were an affluent LDS group including about 30 or more of LDS members in high standing, LDS Bishops, Stake Presidents, and even a son of one of the prophets of the church. They were able to do this because of the pervasive and all-encompassing trust they had with their Mormon neighbors, and by shooting a drug (via needle) into the children's hip area, which would make them docile and submissive. She also told me they cut off kitten's paws and threw them into a gunny sack and then rammed them against a concrete wall, to traumatize these children.

At the time I talked to her, she stated that out of the 8 or so children who were abused, there were only a couple of children who were still alive, her daughter being one. They had all died violently (car wrecks or something) or by suicide. She stated her daughter (who was about 19) had deterioration of her hip bone (from infection caused by the injections), and she said this daughter would probably end up in a wheel chair sometime in the near future.

They were found out because one mother went into the bathroom and caught her child and another one performing sex. And she wanted to know "where were they learning this?"

This woman I talked to said she and another mother whose child was also sexually abused had an official meeting with the heads of the LDS church (about 1988 or 89) and told them their story. Instead of being sympathetic, the LDS Presidency stated for them to keep their mouth shut or they would be excommunicated. Only one man, an architect, was ever put in prision for his part in this Bountiiful children sex abuse crime.

And unbelievably, at the time I talked to her, she was still a devout and constant Mormon Church goer, although she had to move to another ward with a smaller house because all their money went to give her child psychiatric help.

This sex ring type stuff also happened in Lehi, Utah, a few years before this but was hushed up and was considered to be just a rumour.

In the Bible it says: "They that are lead of them are destroyed."


Here is the entire 1 hour of September Clues on Google Video:

http://video.google.com/ videopla...542387672451515


http://www.brasschecktv.com/page.../page...m/page/ 108.html

This is amazing.
I have never seen this.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 9:52 pm | #

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yes it sure is. nice find. I know alex jones isnt going to play with the "no plane theory" but it fits.
I knew that morning it was pearl harbor new york
my dad laughed, knowing it was correct and he wasnt worried about what happened that day, but what they were going to use it all for.
Sees Things | 07.20.07 - 11:04 pm | #
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September Clues was the first to move me into the "not passenger planes but some sort of military projectile" world.

There needs to be much more of this.

Excellent work!


Your Guide to 2008 Presidential Candidates' Positions on Top 25 Issues
http://www.2decide.com/table.htm
All 18 democrat and republican candidates' positions on issues arranged in an easy to read table.
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Check out Mr. No on No to all federal BS except the immediate withdrawal from Iraq!


Woman Receives Severe Chemical Burns From Walmart Flip Flops
http://consumerist.com/consumer/...urer- 280572.php
A woman from Florida claims to have purchased some flip flops from Walmart, put them on her feet... only to suffer some sort of severe chemical burn along the lines where the straps of the flip flop met her feet. Picts of the chemical burn at the bottom.
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Could they have been....

MADE IN CHINA????


Google Earth and NASA Complete Project
http://mashable.com/2007/07/20/g...gle-earth-nasa/
Google Earth and NASA have completed their project for a NASA layer in Google Earth. This was initiated in an effort to raise awareness and promote NASA’s earth programs.


CHINA TO U.S: Don't 'F' with us on imports - WE OWN YOU

I'll bet my last buck Wally World had a hand in writing that.


http://www.brasschecktv.com/page...m/page/ 108.html

This is amazing.
I have never seen this.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 9:52 pm | #

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yes it sure is. nice find. I know alex jones isnt going to play with the "no plane theory" but it fits.
I knew that morning it was pearl harbor new york
my dad laughed, knowing it was correct and he wasnt worried about what happened that day, but what they were going to use it all for.


Maybe it's poetic justice. Little bush has been cornholing the american public for so long, now it's his turn to take it up the behind. And Cheney will be president tomorrow. Can you imagine that?
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God help us.


Copyright Board of Canada gives thumbs-up to "iPod tax"
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/...o-ipod- tax.html
The Copyright Board of Canada released its decision today on whether iPods and other digital music players can be subject to a levy meant to compensate musicians for their efforts. It gave the go-ahead for Canada's government to create the levy, but also made some worrying comments about cell phones and computers potentially falling under


Canada's top court rules pointing and saying "Bang" is the same as real gun
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2...-use.html? =bang
Threatening someone with a gun may be enough to warrant being charged with a firearms offence, even if one isn't being carried, Canada's top court ruled Friday. In a unanimous ruling, the nine-member Supreme Court of Canada upheld a court decision in B.C. that convicted a man of gun possession, even though he argued he never had the weapon on him.


AP Poll: GOP pick is 'none of the above' - Or maybe Ron Paul,,
http://www.graphictruth.com/2007...bove- yahoo.html
The only thing that makes him "less credible" is that every other Republican and all the usual suspects within the MSM and the partisan noise machine are unanimous in not talking about him. That alone is enough of a reason. Send money.


Newt needs to be investigated for treason!
sane | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 10:52 pm | #
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Investigated my ass, he needs to hung in the town square.


Sen. Mike Gravel: Open Letter to Senate Dems: End the Iraq War
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ se...id_b_57084.html
If you really want to shape war policy, you must call up a cloture vote every single day. Of course you wouldn't have the votes at first, but that's why you need to force the Senate to remain in session seven days a week to vote every day on cloture throughout the summer. The same tactic would apply for both the House and Senate to override a veto.


Why Is Bush Cheery with Awful Approval Ratings? Bush's Cognitive Dissonance
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...id=opinionsbox1
Bush was "not at all weary or anguished" and in fact was "very energized," wrote Michael Barone of U.S. News & World Report. He was "as confident and upbeat as ever," observed Rich Lowry of National Review.Excuse me?


Bill Kristol, The Worst Kind of Reactionary
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/8833
He tells us that we should be grateful to Bush for a lack of terror attacks in the US. Why should the terrorists come to the US when we have brought our best and brightest over to them to kill? Not only that, for every Iraqi that dies from “collateral damage” ten new jihadists born. That’s OK though; The Bush family is planning on moving to Paragua


Maybe it's poetic justice. Little bush has been cornholing the american public for so long, now it's his turn to take it up the behind. And Cheney will be president tomorrow. Can you imagine that?

Well at least Russia and China will have a good laugh at GW getting it up the butt.

Maybe this is a preview of what's to come in the near future, (if justice goes forth) then little bush will be taking it up the butt frequently


Power Of Induction - the best version of the MIT wireless energy experiment
http://www.sciencenews.org/artic...070721/ bob8.asp
The WiTricity story itself is nothing new, we all voted for it, but this guy at ScienceNews did a terrific write-up on the history of the efforts and how it came to pass now. Or maybe it isn't that terrific to you. That's why you get to vote.


Me Chinese, Me play joke
Me go Pee-Pee in your coke


Cointelpro? Does anybody think they'll make a bad boys 3? I hope so they have some of the best action scenes on film. Also, lawrence and smith have great chemistry on screen.
THE ILLUSTRIOUS MR. KISSINGER | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 10:51 pm | #
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Oh yeah, Bad Boys, revealing more CIA/Illuminati techniques like the body in the garbage can, that is a good one and the control of traffic lights, another over 20-year old illuminati technique. Also the replication of the "the soldier"/"untouchables" deception technique of fake killing a suposed suspect (in "the soldier" it was a fake bullet. In "untouchables" and "bad boys 2" it was someone who was already dead.) Of course this allows illuminati to keep using this technique and even further deceiving by using a real bullet when a fake one was supposedly intended or killing a live victim and telling others he was already dead.

Bravo Michael Bay, way to keep illuminati strong via your wonderful use of Disney inspired visual mind control!


CHINA TO U.S: Don't 'F' with us on imports - WE OWN YOU
http://www.reuters.com/article/n...0070719? sp=true
"It is unfair and irresponsible for the U.S. media to single China out, play up China's food safety problems and mislead the U.S. consumer," 中华人民共和国 | Oh Yeah? Well tell that to some poor 90 year old Grandma who just lost her poodle 'Muffycakes' to a can of the poison shit on a stick you're selling. Time for America to make it's own stuff again.


Newt Gingrich: "Anyone Who Believes 9/11 Was Not an Enemy Attack is INSANE"
http://www.jonesreport.com/ artic...7_newt_911.html
Newt Gingrich responded to questions about high level military officials and heads of aerospace and defense programs who believe 9/11 was an inside job from WeAreChange.org and Infowars.com reporters. Newt responded, "Anyone who believes 9/11 was not an enemy attack is insane," including former high-ranking military officials named in the VIDEO.
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Anyone who believes an AEI/PNAC/Cheney Stooge like Newt has lost all concepts of reality and is still under neo-conned mind control.

Newt needs to be investigated for treason!


RE: Will Smith

Once every year Will takes his mother to Canyon Ranch spa in Tucson, Arizona for a week.
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Bravo, Mr. Sane, if by Canyon Ranch spa you mean "Deep Underground Military Bases", and if by his mother you mean Plague Species Dwarf Alien Reptoid.

Cointelpro? Does anybody think they'll make a bad boys 3? I hope so they have some of the best action scenes on film. Also, lawrence and smith have great chemistry on screen.


The Terrible Scandal of UK Social Services Adoption Targets
http://portent.org/index.php/200...option-targets/
In the UK, Social Services through secretive Family Courts where normal standards of law don't apply, the word of a Social Worker is enough to remove children from a home. Not because the children are at risk but because Social Services find it easier to meet Government Targets. If a family protests by trying to publish details they are jailed!


New Fingerprint Technique Could Reveal Diet, Sex, Race
http://www.livescience.com/ techn...erprinting.html
A victim might not care if a murderer is a smoker or a vegetarian.


RIAA Targets 23 NEW Schools in Latest Campus Piracy Crackdown
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/ 891...iracy+Crackdown
Wants to spread around the litigation "love" to previously untouched colleges and now piss off the entire country not just parts of it.


Thanks for all of the great links folks,it'll take me all weekend to look at them.
sane, you must to be an encyclopedia or ensanelopedia.I have no idea how you find the time.
I have no particular rant so far,just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their efforts and let you know it's appreciated.
Peace


Hastert to resign?
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...tert-to-resign/
According to the Politico, columnist Robert Novak will report this weekend:

Former House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert has indicated to a close former aide that it is likely he will not run for a 12th term from his northern Illinois district and may even resign from Congress before his present term concludes. That runs counter to widespread speculation on Capitol Hill that Hastert will continue in the House for another two years as a private member with no leadership responsibilities.


Bush’s New Interrogation Order Contains Loophole: ‘Does Not Create Any Right Enforceable At Law’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...-interrogation/
In October 2006, Bush signed the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which provided for the continuation of so-called CIA “black sites” for interrogating terrorism suspects and allowed evidence obtained through torture to be used against them. In its lengthy series on the Vice President, the Washington Post reported that the bill gave Cheney everything he wanted:

For all the apparent setbacks, close observers said, Cheney has preserved his top-priority tools in the “war on terror.” After a private meeting with Cheney, one of them said, Bush decided not to promise that there would be no more black sites — and seven months later, the White House acknowledged that secret detention had resumed.

The Military Commissions Act, passed by strong majorities of the Senate and House on Sept. 28 and 29, 2006, gave “the office of the vice president almost everything it wanted,” said [John] Yoo, who maintained his contact with [David] Addington after returning to a tenured position at Berkeley.

Today, the AP reports that President Bush has issued a new executive order “prohibiting cruel and inhuman treatment, humiliation or denigration of prisoners’ religious beliefs.” The order seems to be an effort to bring the administration’s interrogation regime closer to the requirements stipulated in the Geneva Convention.

The new order is intended to apply to CIA interrogators. “The White House declined to say whether the CIA currently has a detention and interrogation program, but said if it did, it must adhere to the guidelines outlined in the executive order.”

The new order does not appear to shut down the “black sites.” Moreover, the text of the executive order suggests that any CIA personnel or others who engage in violations of the new regime will not be subject to any repercussions.

Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Subject to subsection (b) of this section, this order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity, against the United States, its departments, agencies, or other entities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

(b) Nothing in this order shall be construed to prevent or limit reliance upon this order in a civil, criminal, or administrative proceeding, or otherwise, by the Central Intelligence Agency or by any individual acting on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency in connection with the program addressed in this order.

The Post reported that exempting “CIA case officers and other government employees from prosecution for past war crimes or torture” was a “technical provision [that] held great importance to Cheney and his allies.” So while the administration is saying that it will not torture, it appears to be turning a blind eye in the event that it happens.

UPDATE: Marty Lederman provides an interpretation: “[I]f a form of violence is not already prohibited by federal criminal law, and is not ‘comparable’ to the forms of violence prohibited by the War Crimes Act, the CIA is not prohibited from using it.”


Who Is John D. Bates?
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07.../20/john-bates/
Yesterday, federal district Judge John D. Bates “dismissed a lawsuit filed by former CIA officer Valerie Plame and her husband [Joe Wilson] against Vice President Cheney and other top officials over the Bush administration’s” retaliatory leak of Plame’s identity. Bates’s decision yesterday is in line with a long record of injecting his personal political agenda into the administration of law. Some other recent examples include:

- In August 2006, Bates “ruled that it was acceptable for the president to sign a bill that had not been passed by Congress.” A clerical error resulted in the President receiving a version of a law approved by only one half of Congress. Bates upheld the law, despite the President being warned of the error before signing the bill. [LINK]

- In December 2002, Bates protected the Bush administration by narrowly dismissing a lawsuit filled by the U.S. Comptroller General David M. Walker against Cheney. Walker “wanted Mr. Cheney to reveal the names of industry executives who helped the administration develop” its energy policy. Bates argued turning the records over to Walker “would hobble an administration’s essential, legitimate ability to receive frank information and advice.” [LINK]

- From September 1995 to March 1997, Bates served as Deputy Independent Counsel to Whitewater investigator Ken Starr. During that time, Bates wanted open access to what Sen. Pat Leahy called, the “dresser drawers of the White House.” At the time, Bates “successfully argued that the White House had to turn over documents related to then-first lady Hillary Clinton.” [LINK]

Furthermore, shortly after he was appointed to the FISA court, the Bush administration sought and received approval to continue its domestic spying program.


Court rules against govt restrictions in detainee cases.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...detainee-cases/
In a unanimous decision, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit “rejected the Bush administration’s plan to limit what judges and the detainees’ attorneys can review” when Guantanamo Bay detainees challenge their status as “enemy combatants.” “The court has resoundingly rejected the government’s effort to control the record and to limit an investigation into the truth,” said Sabin Willet, the attorney who argued the case for the detainees.


Suggestions for ‘President’ Cheney’s to-do list.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...eys-to-do-list/
The National Review posted its favorite suggestions for what Dick Cheney should do during his three hours as acting President while Bush is under anesthesia for his colonoscopy tomorrow:

Bomb Iran.
Commute the sentences of those border agents.
Fire Mike Chertoff.
Tell Harry Reid to … well, you know…
Pardon Scooter.


SCREENPLAY FOR A FEW DEMENTED NEO-CONS

CHENEY: You want answers?

CONSTITUTIONAL ATTORNEY: I think I'm entitled to them.

CHENEY: You want answers?

CONSTITUTIONAL ATTORNEY: I want the truth!

CHENEY: You can't handle the truth!

Son, we live in a world that has terrorists. And those terrorists have to be killed by men with guns.

Who's gonna do it? You Ron Paul? You Dennis Kucinich? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom.

You weep for the 9/11 victims and you curse the Black Ops that pulled off 9/11. You have that luxury.

You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that 3,000 deaths on 9/11, while tragic, probably saved Military and Energy corporate profits.

And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves Halliburton, AIG, Deutche Bank, Kissinger, AEI, DynCorp, and Blackwater from congressional hearings...

You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me raising the Dow Industrial Average.

You need me promoting the ideology that Americans have the right to be superior.

We use words like terrorists, fear, "by any means necessary"...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent raking in energy and military profits while conducting sick occultist rituals.

You use 'em as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very stellar corporate profits I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it!

I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way.

Otherwise, I suggest you read AEI propaganda and be a FOXNews pundit.

Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!

CONSTITUTIONAL ATTORNEY: Did you give the stand down order?

CHENEY: (quietly) I did the job Rockefeller sent me to do.

CONSTITUTIONAL ATTORNEY: Did you give the stand down order?

CHENEY: You're goddamn right I did!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...h? v=8hGvQtumNAY


>>The real reason for the Michael Vick Media Attention....Divert US Human Torture Attrocities by propagating Michaelk Vick as the "Satan of the Day" [there can be only one

Did Bush just admit to torture?
By: John Amato @ 2:37 PM - PDT
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...mit-to-torture/
While telling the nation that he’s getting a colonoscopy—did Bush just admit that the US has been torturing?

President Bush signed an executive order Friday prohibiting cruel and inhuman treatment, including humiliation or denigration of religious beliefs, in the detention and interrogation of terrorism suspects..

The White House declined to say whether the CIA currently has a detention and interrogation program, but said that if it did it must adhere to the guidelines outlined in the executive order. The order targets captured al-Qaida terrorists who have information on attack plans or the whereabouts of the group’s senior leaders.

CIA Director Michael Hayden said on Friday it provides clarity for CIA interrogators and other agency officials worried about the legal liabilities of their involvement in secret detention operations.

Why the clarification if there was never a problem to begin with?


Alex, you and your associates are great, the modern day equivalent of John The Baptist. Pay no mind to the critics who work for the powers of darkness. Your light has shown the way for many a confused, lost soul. If anyone has done more to bring truth to America than Alex Jones and associates, I would like to know who it is. As a retired military officer, I will never be same after viewing Russo's "From Freedom To Fascism." What fools we have been. And this web site, and the courageous souls who built and feed it, had a lot to do with that wonderful documentary. What a difference you make in our lives. Keep giving the Devil hell until God comes and relieves you. That could come very shortly in the form of a surprise nuclear attack from Russia, as implied in Revelatrions Chap 18 where the US is symbolized as Babylon.


>Animal Cruely BS has been used for decades to undermine the US constitution

It is the same old argument...

"The constitution does not allow us to prosecute...,blah blah blah"

That is because you purposefully fuck with investigations and disrupt grass roots organizations that can deal with the investigations. And you promote this behavior in testing labs and fucked up occultist agencies. The constitution has nothing to do with it and is being singled out as the culprit. You know it is coming with this Michael Vick case, watch for it.
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BlogRunner: First Amendment Claim in Cockfight SuitZDNet Government: Cockfighting is illegal in 49 states and it's a federal crime to sell depictions of animal cruelty... But Advanced Consulting and ...
http://blogrunner.com/snapshot/D...946D3C079E981E/ - 22k - Cached - Similar pages

American Civil Liberties Union : FBI / JTTF SpyingACLU Requests Federal Government Records of Spying on Grassroots Groups In Montana ... PETA - FBI apparently plans surveillance of animal rights event ...
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/ spy...es20060131.html - 46k - Cached - Similar pages

Dog Law :: - State and Local Regulation > Impounding and ...But the government's authority is limited by the U.S. Constitution. .... Lawsuits challenging such policies on animal cruelty grounds have failed. ...
http://doglaw.hugpug.com/doglaw_012.html - 19k - Cached - Similar pages


>>>Media Ignores the true Animal Killers and Torturers
http://www.insidehls.com/insidehls.htm
LS has been the subject of five undercover investigations exposing the horrendous animal cruelty and incompetence that goes on inside HLS. HLS employees have been exposed violently punching and shaking four-month-old beagle puppies, performing a necropsy (dissection) of a live monkey, transplanting a frozen pig's heart into a baboon, being drunk and taking drugs at work, falsifying scientific data, and breaking animal welfare laws. These investigations have resulted in HLS employees being convicted of animal cruelty, fined by the USDA and almost shut down by the UK government.

Explore the five undercover investigations inside of Huntingdon Life Sciences:
1989 - Sarah Kite
1996 - Zoe Broughton
1997 - Michelle Rokke
2000 - Xenotranplantation scandal
2001 - Investigation at HLS's Occold facility

Huntingdon is not an exception in the vivisection industy, its the norm. Follow these links to other undercover investigations into similar animal research facilities:
(ALL LINKS ARE EXTERNAL SITES NOT AFFILIATED WITH INSIDEHLS.COM)

Columbia Unversity
http://www.columbiacruelty.com/

Sinclair Research (doing research for Proctor & Gamble/IAMS pet food)
http://www.iamscruelty.com/

Oregon Health & Sciences University
http://www.boycottohsu.com/

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Note: PETA and other animal rights sites are already on terrorist watch lists and are thus open to all the lovable methods of COINTELPRO like the ones they use on the "LEFT":

(1) preparing leaflets designed to discredit student demonstrators, using photographs of New Left leadership at the respective universities. "Naturally, the most obnoxious pictures should be used";

(2) instigating "personal conflicts or animosities" between New Left leaders;

(3) creating the impression that leaders are "informants for the Bureau or other law enforcement agencies";

(4) sending articles from student newspapers or the "underground press" which show the depravity of the New Left to university officials, donors, legislators, and parents. "Articles showing advocation of the use of narcotics and free sex are ideal";

(5) having members arrested on marijuana charges;

(6) sending anonymous letters about a student's activities to parents, neighbors, and the parents' employers. "This could have the effect of forcing the parents to take action";

(7) sending anonymous letters or leaflets describing the "activities and associations" of New Left faculty members and graduate assistants to university officials, legislators, Boards of Regents, and the press. "These letters should be signed 'A Concerned Alumni,' or 'A Concerned Taxpayer'";

( using cooperative press contacts" to emphasize that the "disruptive elements" constitute a "minority" of the students. "The press should demand an immediate referendum on the issue in question";

(9) exploiting the "hostility" among the SDS and other New Left groups toward the SWP, YSA, and Progressive Labor Party;

(10) using "friendly news media'' and law enforcement officials to disrupt New Left coffeehouses near military bases which are attempting to "influence members of the Armed Forces";

(11) using cartoons, photographs, and anonymous letters to "ridicule" the New Left, and

(12) using "misinformation" to "confuse and disrupt" New Left activities, such as by notifying members that events have been cancelled. 110


Evidence of video image manipulation in "live" news reports on 9/11
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page...m/page/ 108.html
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This is amazing.
I have never seen this.


From the Dept. of Irony: PETA Employees Face Animal-Cruelty Trial On January 22
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/p...cfm? release=190
Expert On The Animal Rights Movement Available For Interview

Winton, NC -- Nineteen months after their arrest, two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) will face felony animal-cruelty charges in Hertford County Superior Court on January 22. The defendants, Andrew Benjamin Cook and Adria Joy Hinkle, each face 22 counts of Cruelty to Animals and 3 counts of Obtaining Property By False Pretenses. If convicted, they could face between 25 and 30 months in prison for each Cruelty to Animals count.

On June 15, 2005, police in Ahoskie, North Carolina witnessed Hinkle and Cook throwing trash bags -- containing the bodies of 18 dead pets -- into a shopping-center dumpster. After arresting them, police recovered 13 additional dead animals from the PETA-owned van in which the two were traveling. Witnesses from the Ahoskie Animal Hospital and the Bertie County Animal Shelter later confirmed that Hinkle and Cook had collected the animals, including puppies and kittens, earlier that day on the promise that PETA would find them adoptive homes.

"This trial will really open the eyes of people who don't know about PETA's darker side," said David Martosko, Director of Research at the Center for Consumer Freedom, a nonprofit watchdog that monitors the animal rights movement. "This is an animal rights group that takes in $25 million and kills 90 percent of the pets it receives. That's not ethical. It's hypocritical."

Mr. Martosko will be available to media before, during, and after the North Carolina trial. To arrange an interview, contact Sarah Longwell at 202-463-7112. Daily updates from the trial will be available at www.PetaKillsAnimals.com beginning January 23.

Government records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services show that in 2005, the Norfolk-based PETA killed 90 percent of the animals it took in for adoption. By comparison, the nearby Norfolk SPCA killed less than 4 percent of its animals in that same year. The state average was 43 percent. Since 1998, PETA has put down over 14,400 dogs and cats. PETA's 2006 numbers will be made public by the end of January.

For more information about PETA's felony charges, including evidence and press photographs from the scene of the 2005 arrests, visit www.PetaKillsAnimals.com.

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They kill 90% of the pets they receive??????

That has to be more than Michael Vick!


I don't know who the people who wrote this or what the host is all about but I found this "prayer of repentence from Freemasonry" on the web for to talk about:

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkw...ion/ masonic.pdf


impeachment is just a buncha drama to me,
brick wall and darts anyone?


Whereas Bush/Cheney killed over 3,000 Americans and over 1,000,000 others, where the hell are the priorities in the grand jury system???
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I agree there too, vick totally wrong for animal abuse of course, then henry friggin kissinger refers to military as animals and cheney cant be charged by the SPCH? (society for the prevention of cruelty to humans)

and btw, yeah I like pitbulls, the challenge is raising them to be GOOD KIDS, athletic, loyal, playful, protective comes naturally... raised right only a small percentage are jerks needing put down. raising them with abuse, training to be mean or fight is criminal.


The Real Terrorists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...%2Ftag%2F911% 2F


I suspect they might be first in line at the red list FEMA camp.........
Michael D. | 07.20.07 - 9:23 pm | #

count on it


Man this is such fucking bullshit, Michael Vick gets indicted by a grand jury and faces 6 years and s going to have to leave the NFL.

Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, take a look around...

Michael Vick should go through due process according to the state laws, whereas the ONLY way to get to Bush/Cheney is through a grand jusry since all other methods have proved useless.

They are gonna try and fuck with grand juries here as they are overstretching and NEED to be used for high crimes and misdemeaners against public officials that think they are above the law.

since when is michael vick above the law WTF?????

GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION FOR BUSH/CHENEY!!!!

stop fucking with people power by wasting it on a possible crime that the courts can deal with.

Bush/Cheney killed over one million innocent people, Vick was engaging in / promoting / whatever other charges on dogs.

Even if a dog's life equals a human life, he could not have possibly killed more than 1,000,000 of them. Probably not even 3,000.

Whereas Bush/Cheney killed over 3,000 Americans and over 1,000,000 others, where the hell are the priorities in the grand jury system???


That scares the shit out of me to think even a congresman is denied access, This tells me that it is almost here, the capital treason against the people of the USA. For you own safety, stop this administration, it is a matter of life and death.
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The worst part of this whole situationis our worthless congress that isn't impeaching......falsely believing they are part of the ruling club. What they don't realize is that under martial law they no longer have any purpose and would be the biggest whiners......after losing their "power"
I suspect they might be first in line at the red list FEMA camp.........


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07_b_denied.htm

Congressman Denied Access To Federal Post-Terror Attack Plans

JEFF KOSSEFF
The Oregonian
Friday, July 20, 2007

T R E A S O N !!
that of itself is enough reason to throw the bastards out of the hot seat.
Sees Things | 07.20.07 - 9:10 pm | #
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Where the hell ya been, I guess AJ saw the fascism alert:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=33588#112398


Hey oldman, here ya go an excuse for a failed war used over 100 years ago, does it fit today?????
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France and l'affaire Dreyfus revisited
http://www.hindu.com/2006/06/23/ ...62301821000.htm
Vaiju Naravane
The 100th anniversary of the rehabilitation of Captain Alfred Dreyfus is an occasion for an analysis of past wrongs. This can be salutary at a time when France is in the process of re-examining its criminal justice system.


A HUNDRED years ago, on July 12, 1906, France's highest court, the Cour de Cassation, finally rehabilitated Captain Alfred Dreyfus, giving him back his honour, snatched on December 22, 1894, when he was falsely accused of high treason. The court thus closed one of the darkest chapters in French judicial history, setting right a wrong that has been described not as a "miscarriage of justice" but as "a judicial crime."

To commemorate the centenary of its own "rebirth" and rehabilitation as an institution of the Republic that guarantees justice to its citizens without fear or favour, the Cour de Cassation has organised a seminar entitled "Justice in the Dreyfus Affair." Open to the public, it brings together jurists, historians, military and constitutional experts in the very room where the Jewish officer was finally exonerated of all charges and reinstated.

At a time when France is in the process of re-examining its criminal justice system with the establishment of a special parliamentary commission to enquire into a high-profile paedophile trial that wrongly imprisoned and condemned 13 innocent persons — some were kept in preventive detention for over three years — because of the dogged determination of the examining magistrate and systemic failures within the judiciary, such an analysis of past wrongs can but be salutary.

Guy Cavinet, the Court's president, told The Hindu : "In the last analysis, not one particle of the charges against Dreyfus holds up. The significance of this Court's verdict is the same today as it was on the day of its pronouncement. It continues to affirm and demonstrate the total innocence of Captain Dreyfus and his wrongful conviction on two successive occasions. The Court's decision to quash his convictions stands as a sentinel to us today, we who are the direct inheritors of that legacy — magistrates, lawyers, and intellectuals who must confront political threats and manoeuvres, the ignominy of odious press campaigns and the violence of crowds unleashed by nationalism and anti-Semitism."

The institutionalised anti-Semitism that led to Dreyfus' condemnation did not go away. On the contrary, it was strengthened in the period just before the Second World War and during the occupation when France's collaborationist government operating from Vichy passed anti-Jewish legislation, going far beyond what the Nazis asked of it. The anti-Semitic extreme right continues to prosper in France and now a new layer of anti-Jewish sentiment has been added to the mix in the form of hatred for Israel (and by extension of the Jews) as expressed by French Muslims of mainly immigrant extraction espousing the Palestinian cause.

The seminar also coincides with the European Union's criticism of France for its overcrowded prisons, its treatment of immigrants in custody, and the widespread and abusive use of preventive detention as a tool to extract confessions.

"The Dreyfus case illustrates what can happen when a democracy becomes a tyranny. But the courage of Dreyfus' supporters, especially men like Bernard Lazare, the first to take up cudgels against the War Council that condemned Dreyfus, Leon Blum, Jean Jaures or Emile Zola, whose open letter to the French president on January 13, 1989, in the form of a front page editorial against the army's despicable manoeuvring entitled J'Accuse ... ! in the newspaper L'Aurore unleashed a furore in the western world, stands out as an example of how democratic forces can win back their democratic rights," said Vincent Duclert, a renowned historian who has just published a remarkable biography of Alfred Dreyfus.

The Cour de Cassation's decision in 1906 to declare Dreyfus innocent and rehabilitate the officer was a courageous one. In the first civilian trial in 1898, a court in Rennes found him guilty a second time (the first was his conviction and degradation by a military court in 1894). Anti-Semitism was the flavour of the day, judges were under attack and the government and parliament for "reasons of state" were both against Dreyfus' reinstatement despite clear evidence of his innocence.

For the Captain and his family it was the culmination of a 12-year-long battle for justice. His conviction, deportation, retrial and re-conviction for a crime committed by another brought down shame and opprobrium on France, a country that saw itself as a unique upholder of justice and human rights.

Captain Alfred Dreyfus came from a wealthy Jewish family in Alsace, northeastern France. The family was so much a product of the Enlightenment and so well integrated in the fabric of French society that its members thought of themselves as progressive liberals, French first, Jewish later. A brilliant student, Alfred Dreyfus decided to serve his country by joining the army where he quickly climbed up the ladder and in 1892 was appointed to Army Headquarters where he was the only Jew.

France and Germany were hostile neighbours and the French realised a traitor was selling army secrets to the Germans. Suspicion immediately fell on Dreyfus because he was a Jew. His trial opened on December 19, 1894, and on December 22, on the basis of fabricated evidence, he was convicted of high treason and ordered to be deported to Devil's Island, one of the world's harshest penal colonies located in shark-infested waters off the coast of French Guyana.

As he was being stripped of his epaulettes in a "degradation" ceremony before elite troops at France's Military Academy, Dreyfus cried out "My countrymen, I am innocent."

The Dreyfus case divided France straight down the middle. The "Dreyfusards" who stood for a republic based on the values of the Enlightenment, on tolerance and the notion that all men are equal despite differences of religion, birth or social rank were fighting for justice and truth. The "anti-Dreyfusards" who were mainly Christian conservatives harbouring a deep suspicion and hatred of the Jews whom they saw as the embodiment of the Anti-Christ, tended to side with the army "for reasons of state."

With intellectual heavyweights like Emile Zola and Jean Jaures taking up their quills to defend the Captain, the Dreyfus affair unleashed a furious public debate in France that was to continue for over a decade and which gave the French press its finest hour. Dreyfus' supporters faced formidable odds in the form of vicious attacks launched by extreme right wing movements like Action Francaise and anti-Semitic newspapers like La Libre Parole, which played a major role not just in the 1894 conviction but in all subsequent attempts to overturn the first guilty verdict.
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Just some history as to the roots of anti-semitism as they undoubtably will be using the same formula as to the real cause of 9/11, Iraq, etc. when we all know it has nothing to do with religion, nationality, or race.

It was elitist power grabbing by members of a club that we ain't a part of.


That scares the shit out of me to think even a congresman is denied access, This tells me that it is almost here, the capital treason against the people of the USA. For you own safety, stop this administration, it is a matter of life and death.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07_b_denied.htm

Congressman Denied Access To Federal Post-Terror Attack Plans

JEFF KOSSEFF
The Oregonian
Friday, July 20, 2007

T R E A S O N !!
that of itself is enough reason to throw the bastards out of the hot seat.


http://www.counterpunch.org/ wals...sh04172007.html
AIPAC!" was the forceful one-word answer of Congressman Michael Capuano when we asked him, "Why was the Iran clause forbidding war on Iran without Congressional approval taken out of the recent supplemental for the Iraq war funding?" I nearly fell out of my chair at his reply - not because this was news but because of who had just said it.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 8:56 pm | #

Oh man wtf, Cheney controls AIPAC and AIPAC does not speak on behalf of jews or israelis, they are a military and energy lobby.

how is it possible to be this deceived?????

have you ever read the COINTELPRO docs????
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/ co...nationalist.htm
The forces which are most anxious to weaken our internal security are not always easy to identify. Communists have been trained in deceit and secretly work toward the day when they hope to replace our American way of life with a Communist dictatorship. They utilize cleverly camouflaged movements, such as peace groups and civil rights groups to achieve their sinister purposes. While they as individuals are difficult to identify, the Communist party line is clear. Its first concern is the advancement of Soviet Russia and the godless Communist cause. It is important to learn to know the enemies of the American way of life.

The FBI conducted more than 2000 COINTELPRO operations before the the programs were officially discontinued in April of 1971, after public exposure, in order to "afford additional security to [their] sensitive techniques and operations."
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What makers you believe for a moment that AIPAC is NOT an AEI/COINTELPRO/Cheney group.

They are truly looking for Israel to be forced into a nuclear war, how the hell is that in anyone but MIC/Energy/Cheney's interests wtf????


Dr. Dahlia Wasfi - Life in Iraq Under U.S. Occupation
For Iraqis, it`s 9/11 everyday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...%2Ftag%2F911% 2F


Month ago I posted pictures of the fighters in Palestine using M16's.
I ask then, where are they getting American made weapons?
This has been going on for a long time.
There is more to this shit than meets the eye.
And when it does meet the eye of someone who is actually looking, no one believes you.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 8:46 pm | #
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Oh great wise wizard, please tell us how long....

Since arabs were blamed for 9/11?

Since Duetche Bank did short sells prior to 9/11, since Atta met with german and austrian terrorists months before 9/11?

since russia and communism was the reason for so much weapons build up in this world?

since the nazi's were brought to the most secretive war projects in the most influential countries: US/UK/Russia/China/Israel/Brazil/Switzerland?

Since prescott bush, harriman, ford, IBM, the pope, and hitler decided to blame the jews for all the worlds problems so that fascism could be declared all over the planet?

Wow how long? Since JP Morgan and Harriman killed the jewish US bankers that deposed the federal reserve in the titanic?

Since the time that france blamed jews for their defeat with prussia?

since the inquisition, the crusades?

since that jew jesus tried to alert the other jews of the paganists infiltrating religion in preparation of setting up a state religion like the vatican?

since that jew moses led other jews from illuminati pyramidic slavery?

when, please tell me, how long has the desire for slavery by elite men through blaming one religion/race/nation been going on?


http://www.counterpunch.org/ wals...sh04172007.html
AIPAC!" was the forceful one-word answer of Congressman Michael Capuano when we asked him, "Why was the Iran clause forbidding war on Iran without Congressional approval taken out of the recent supplemental for the Iraq war funding?" I nearly fell out of my chair at his reply - not because this was news but because of who had just said it.


Do you all remember a few months ago when it came out main stream media that the Afghanis were using shoulder launched surface to air missals?
I debunked that one.
I posted pictures on this blog, the pictures were of Afghanis carrying rocket propelled grenades , they were NOT surface to air missals.
The public are sheeple being lead to slaughter.


US Reportedly Investigating PKK Weapons
Turkey Says US Admits Corrupt Personnel May Have Played a Supply Role
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...ing_PKK_Weapons
sane | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 8:38 pm | #
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sane,
Month ago I posted pictures of the fighters in Palestine using M16's.
I ask then, where are they getting American made weapons?
This has been going on for a long time.
There is more to this shit than meets the eye.
And when it does meet the eye of someone who is actually looking, no one believes you.


>>>US has been controlling Israel since at least 1948...

Declassified "FIRECRACKER" document reveals the threats and desires of US to force Israel into not accepting the Abullah/UK peace accord between Jewish and Arab Palestinian land.

It seems that our current policy of threats and intimmidation (also murder of peaceful Israeli PM), may have originated from this new FIRECRACKER document...

Prior to the Firecracker document, there was at least 3 years of peace efforts to halt any further terrorism against palestinians and recognition of the suffering the jews had from nazi policies:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1
Here was the 15 page top secret document from the US explaining that they had overall command and control of the Israel/Palestinian situation due to security risks to the US if communism were to infiltrate the area (vietnam anyone???)
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/ whi...ollectionid=ROI
David K. Niles' notes of Dean Rusk's comments about the recognition of Israel
Note: Niles wanted US to move forward with the UK plan to allow each people to have their own official state. Warmongering secretary of state Dean Rusk said that the US sould only allow "truteeship" to the land and not allow each people to govern their own land. Rusk was determined to defeat the peace accord by UK/Arab nations/Palestiniansd and Jews in the area
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/ whi...ollectionid=ROI
Then the tensions rise when a NY councilman with mob ties to Abner Zwillman lays on the guilt:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1
However, Truman seems in agreement with the British Palestinian Accord on May 11th 1948
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/ whi...ollectionid=ROI

Needing to act quickly, the real military industrial complex hawks get into action with this "FIRECRACKER" document:
Alternatives of how to make peace between the Arabs and the Jews in Palestine, May 11, 1948

Page One has Lovett (outgoing secretary of defense in 1952) telling Clark Clifford (incoming Secretary of Defense 1952 - Harriman set him up) not to show it to anyone:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1

Then page 3-6 reads like PNAC/AEI wrote it...
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI& groupid=
fear...
We need to control the area....
They are working around us with peace deals
should we blockade...
they are getting weapons from elsewhere other than US...
should we intervene...
this could represent the greatest threat to our national security (sound familiar?)...

For those of you who do not know, Lovett worked with Bush Sr. in terror campaigns in the middle east and south america. Lovett is one of the pioneers in Middle East and South America false flag initiatives (as well as Gladio and others). This document gives a little more info to understand why after 50 years, teo types of people who have lived in peace for at least 1,000 years have been continually fighting. The Jews and Arabs lived together for at least 1,000 years without the problems we have seen for the past 50 years.

If you look at our support of Sunni/Shia tension to create more arms sales (Iran/Contra-now Al-Qaeda/Iran/Hamas funding), we may have an awakening. We may wake up to realize that black ops authority within our foreign policy directives have not only started the Jewish/Arab conflicts, they have made them exponentially worse.

For more of the declassified documents, go here:

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI& pagenumber=1


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Documents
The following documents are in PDF format.
You will need to download and install the free Adobe Acrobat Reader to view.

Document 1: U.S. Department of Defense, Office of the Assistant Secretary for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict; and Office of the Assistant Secretary, Near East and South Asian Affairs (Special Plans) White Paper Entitled, "'Rapid Reaction Media Team' Concept;" January 16, 2003; Includes Briefing Slides.
Source: Declassified through the Freedom of Information Act

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/ NSA...aq_media_01.pdf
Recommends creation of a "Rapid Reaction Media Team" using "hand-picked" American, British, and Iraqi media experts to prepare for the establishment of an "Iraqi Free Media" following the invasion of Iraq. Discusses the team's mission, personnel requirements, required tasks, and plans for "on-the-shelf" programming, and outlines topics and themes to be disseminated to the Iraqi public.

Document 2: U.S. Department of Defense, Office of the Inspector General Audit Entitled, "Acquisition: Contracts Awarded for the Coalition Provisional Authority by the Defense Contracting Command-Washington," March 18, 2004.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/ NSA...aq_media_02.pdf
Reports on actions taken by the Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance/Coalition Provisional Authority - the entities created to govern Iraq following the U.S. invasion of March 2003 - and the Defense Contracting Command-Washington, which was in charge of administrating private sector activity in support of the invasion and occupation - when awarding contracts. The inspector general undertook this inquiry after the Defense Contract Audit Agency "found irregularities in both the award and administration of the contracts" and recommended an in-depth review. During the time span under consideration in the audit, the Defense Contracting Command awarded 24 contracts, valued at $122.5 million, of which 13, valued at $111 million, were sole-source (non-competitive.) The audit, which categorizes "media support" as "humanitarian assistance," discusses a contract for the Iraqi Free Media Program that was granted on a no-bid basis to the Science Applications International Corporation. The Iraqi program is discussed in detail on pages 10, 16-17, 21-22, 26-29, and 33-36.

Document 3: U.S. Department of Defense, Inspector General Report Entitled, "Review of the Pre-Iraqi War Activities of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy," February 9, 2007.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/ NSA...aq_media_03.pdf
The review underlying this report was performed at the request of Sen. Pat Roberts [R-Kans.], Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and Sen. Carl Levin [D-MIch.], ranking minority member of the committee, because of substantive questions raised about some of the conclusions of the July 7, 2004 report of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence entitled, "Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Pre-War Intelligence Assessments on Iraq," particularly in regard to the possible politicization of intelligence. The inspector general's review found that "The Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy developed, produced, and then disseminated alternative intelligence assessments on the Iraq and al-Qaida relationship, which included some conclusions that were inconsistent with the consensus of the Intelligence Community, to senior decision-makers. While such actions were not illegal or unauthorized, the actions were, in our opinion, inappropriate . . . " Therefore, "the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy did not provide 'the most accurate analysis of intelligence' to senior decision-makers." (p. ii)
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Pentagon "Rapid Reaction Media Team" for Iraq
By Joyce Battle
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/ NSA...aq_media_01.pdf
A White Paper and PowerPoint briefing obtained through the Freedom of Information Act and published today by the National Security Archive describe Pentagon planning for a "Rapid Reaction Media Team" that was to be a critical part of an information campaign "during [the] pre-hostilities phase of the Iraq mission." As a "bridge" after the overthrow of Iraq's government and before the establishment of an "'Iraqi Free Media' network," the rapid reaction team would create narratives leading Iraqis to feel, Pentagon planners enthused, like North Koreans who turned off state TV at night and in the morning turned on "the rich fare of South Korean TV . . . as their very own." Foreshadowing the unfolding of the U.S. government's Iraq media policy, preliminary work would not come cheap - Defense Department planners recommended paying two U.S. consultants $140,000 each for a campaign of six months duration.

The White Paper was prepared in January 2003 by two Defense Department offices - Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, and Near East and South Asian Affairs (Special Plans). The first is in charge of psychological warfare; the second was set up to covertly plan for the invasion of Iraq. As reported by Knight Ridder Newspapers, by mid-2002 it was clear to veteran Pentagon workers that President Bush was "methodically preparing an invasion to oust" Saddam Hussein. A planning unit - later referred to as the "Office of Special Plans" -- was to coordinate "the non-military and political aspects of any campaign, as opposed to drawing up actual invasion plans." More details of the unit's activities have subsequently become known, particularly through a July 9, 2004 report by the Senate Intelligence Committee and the efforts of Senator Carl Levin [D-Mich.] and his staff. On October 21, 2004 the senator released a report focusing on the activities of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, which oversaw these secretive planning activities, and Levin was instrumental in obtaining the February 2007 declassification of what he called a "devastating" report by the Defense Department's inspector general, who said the office's role in developing and disseminating alternative intelligence analyses on Iraq - directed by Under Secretary Douglas Feith, and authorized by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz - was "inappropriate."

According to the media White Paper, "civil-military transition of the new Iraq to a broad representative government" would take "1-2 years," and the U.S. government would establish - in 12 months - an information system that would serve "as a model for free media in the Arab world." To ensure that the message would be controlled, Iraq was to be provided with a "Temporary Media Commissioner" to regulate against "hate media". He or she would operate in a receptive environment: the team would "identify the media infrastructure that we need left intact, and work with CENTCOM targeteers to find alternative ways of disabling key sites." (Evidently the Baghdad headquarters of Arab satellite network al-Jazeera was not part of "the media infrastructure that we need left intact.")

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This is a pretty good documentary on what people are doing about police brutality.

Cop Watch- These Streets Are Watching:
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=228& Itemid=27

It might be are only defense against in this new police state.


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Also.....

Declassified Documents: Bechtel Planned to Evade Iraq "Genocide" Sanctions in 1988
http://www.democracynow.org/arti...3/12/24/ 1524247
Newly declassified documents reveal how construction firm Bechtel planned to evade economic sanctions imposed by Washington after Saddam Hussein used poison gas on Iraq's Kurdish minority and additional documents show that Donald Rumsfeld went to Baghdad for a second visit in March 1984 deliver a private message about WMDs. Newly declassified documents obtained by the non-profit National Security Archive show that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld went to Baghdad in March 1984 with instructions to deliver a private message about weapons of mass destruction. The Washington Post reports the message was that Washington's public criticism of Iraq for using chemical weapons would not derail U.S. attempts to forge a better relationship. The 1984 visit was Rumsfeld's second visit to Iraq on behalf of President Ronald Reagan. Rumsfeld met with Saddam Hussein in Baghdad in December 1983.

Uncovered documents also reveal that construction firm Bechtel planned to evade economic sanctions imposed by Washington after Saddam Hussein used poison gas on Iraq's Kurdish minority. According to a 1988 confidential State Department cable, then-U.S. Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie wrote that Bechtel officials threatened then to use non-U.S. suppliers to sidestep the sanctions. In April of this year, Bechtel landed the largest U.S. Agency for International Development contract to date for infrastructure repair work in Iraq. The deal is worth an initial payment of 34.6 million dollars and up to 680 million dollars in total.
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MORE FOREIGN POLICY BLUNDERS COMING.................

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IRAQ: THE MEDIA WAR PLAN
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Documents shed light on role of intelligence, stealth technology and space systems in the Gulf War
For more information contact:
Joyce Battle - 202/994-7000
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSA...BB219/ index.htm
Washington D.C., May 8, 2007 - In January 2003 Defense Department planners recommended the creation of a "Rapid Reaction Media Team" to serve as a bridge between Iraq's formerly state-controlled news outlets and an "Iraqi Free Media" network, according to a White Paper and PowerPoint slides that were obtained through the Freedom of Information Act and are posted today on the Web by the National Security Archive.

The Pentagon team would portray a "new Iraq" offering hope of a prosperous and democratic future, which would serve as a model for the Middle East. American, British, and Iraqi media experts would be hand-picked to provide "approved USG information" for the Iraqi public, while an ensuing "strategic information campaign" would be part of a "likely 1-2 years . . . transition" to a representative government. A new weekly Iraqi newspaper would feature "Hollywood" along with the news.

Defense Department planners envisioned a post-invasion Iraq where the U.S., in cooperation with a friendly Baghdad government, could monopolize information dissemination. They did not account for independent media outlets, the Internet, and all the other alternative sources of information that are available in the modern world. The U.S. media campaign has not been able to control the message - but its execution was privatized, and contracting has made it a profitable enterprise for those able to capitalize on the Pentagon's largesse.

Today's posting also includes an "Iraq Media Timeline" that summarizes the U.S. media campaign and the difficult conditions faced by reporters in Iraq.
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U.S. Planned Invading Gulf In 1973 : UK Documents
http://www.islamonline.net/ Engli...article02.shtml
The Republican administration of Nixon was prepared to take the risks than be threatened by another Arab oil embargo
LONDON, January 1 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) - The U.S. mulled military invasion of the Arab Gulf region to seize oilfields during an oil embargo in 1973, but feared a possible counter-attack by Iraq whose vice-president at the time was none other than Saddam Hussein, said recently declassified British government documents.Although the 1973 war – launched by Egypt and Syria to end Israeli occupation of Sinai and Golan Heights - was over after three weeks, a secret assessment drawn up by the British Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) -- including the heads of MI5 and MI6 -- concluded Washington was ready to use force to lay hands on oilfields. Arab countries decided in October 1973 to impose a complete oil embargo on the U.S. over its support for Israel and slashed down production, sending oil prices sky high. The JIC assessment concluded that oilfields seizure was "the possibility uppermost in American thinking when they refer to the use of force; it has been reflected, we believe, in their contingency planning." According to the BBC News Online, this came after British Ambassador in Washington Lord Cromer quoted the then U.S. Defense Secretary James Schlesinger as saying "it was no longer obvious to him that the United States could not use force." The documents, released under the 30-year-rule for declassification, indicate that London took the threat so seriously that it drew up a detailed assessment of what the Americans might do.

Ten-year Invasion

The JIC calculated the Americans could guarantee sufficient oil supplies for themselves and their allies by taking the oilfields in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the Gulf state of Abu Dhabi, with total reserves of more than 28 billion tons, Agence France-Presse (AFP). The JIC warned the American occupation would need to last 10 years, as the West developed alternative energy sources, and would result in "total alienation" of Arabs and much of the rest of the third world, as well as "domestic dissension" in the U.S.However, the committee said the Republican administration of President Richard Nixon could be prepared to take the risks, if it was faced with the "dark scenario" of renewed Arab-Israeli conflict and further protracted oil restrictions. Iraq Intervention Fears The declassified documents said that although the attacks would not be fraught with ferocious resistance, given the modest military capabilities of the would-be invaded countries, the U.S.feared the counter-intervention of then-advanced Iraqi forces to expel them. "For Saudi Arabia, the operation could be fairly straightforward. The peacetime garrison of Dhahran is one lightly armed National Guard battalion and a Hawk SAM battery," it said. "The initial assault could be made by a brigade tasked to knock out the Hawk battery, seize the airfield, and so far as possible prevent sabotage to the oilfields.

"For Kuwait the operational problems are greater. The Kuwaitis have about 100 tanks, mostly concentrated near the airport. This means that although the initial assault could still be made by a brigade, the assault force would need to be rapidly reinforced, say within six hours, by tanks of its own." A "complication" in the case of Abu Dhabi was the presence of some seconded British officers in the Abu Dhabi Defense Force, and for this reason, the JIC said Washington could ask London to carry out that operation. The JIC said that the U.S.would probably give the Soviet Union prior notice of its intentions, and that Kremlin opposition would "probably stop short of direct military intervention" However, in a reversal of what was actually to happen 18 years later, the JIC said that if the Americans seized Kuwait, Iraq may try to mount a counter-invasion to expel them. "The greatest risk in the Gulf would probably arise in Kuwait, where the Iraqis, with Soviet backing, might be tempted to intervene," it said.

The intelligence also warned that American military intervention could create strains among the Western allies. "Since the United States would probably claim to be acting for the benefit of the West as a whole and would expect the full support of allies, deep U.S.-European rifts could ensue," it said. The declassified documents said other possibilities, such as the replacement of Arab rulers by "more amenable" leaders or a show of force by "gunboat diplomacy", were rejected as unlikely. The episode shows how the security of oil supplies is always at the forefront of governments' planning, commented the BBC. It also draws attention to the current situation, as it revives memories of the U.S.-British cooperation to invade Iraq, that sits on the world’s second largest oil reserves. War opponents have long insisted that the war on the oil-rich Arab country was rather an attempt to keep a tight grip on oil production not only in Iraq but the entire Gulf region. Washington claimed the war was to dismantle weapons of mass destruction, nothing of which have been found so far nine months after occupation and a few weeks of the capture of ousted president Saddam Hussein. The U.S. has military bases in almost all Gulf countries, including the three countries it earlier planned to invade, and its companies landed a majority of contracts there.

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oldman, either you have been swindled by COINTELPRO agents like so many others or something else is going on...here is some reality for you:

US NOT ONLY TOOK CONTROL OF ISRAEL AND PREVENTED THE ARAB PALESTINIAN STATE, THE FOREIGN POLICY PLAN WAS TO TAKE OVER OTHER ARAB COUNTRIES

More declassified documents over the past 5 years point to a trend for US Foerign policy to:


Not allow a palestinian arab state
Force Israel's hand by starting false flag terror attacks on both sides and sell arms to both groups.
Work a deal for the USS Liberty to sink whereby Israel was promised increased weapons and security by US being able to get into the Middle East war. Planners were the same ones in the FDR Coup attempt.
And in the past 30 years-a plan to seize middle east oil from Saudi Arabia, Dubai, etc.....

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Britain Says U.S. Planned to Seize Oil in '73 Crisis
by Lizette Alvarez
http://www.commondreams.org/head...s04/0102- 01.htm
LONDON — The United States government seriously contemplated using military force to seize oil fields in the Middle East during the Arab oil embargo 30 years ago, according to a declassified British government document made public on Thursday. The top-secret document says that President Richard M. Nixon was prepared to act more aggressively than previously thought to secure America's oil supply if the embargo, imposed by Arab nations in retaliation for America's support for Israel in the 1973 Middle East war, did not end. In fact, the embargo was lifted in March 1974. The declassified British memorandum said the United States considered launching airborne troops to seize oil fields in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Abu Dhabi, but only as a "last resort." President Nixon's defense secretary, James R. Schlesinger, delivered the warning to Lord Cromer, the British ambassador in Washington at the time. In the document, Lord Cromer was quoted as saying of Mr. Schlesinger, "it was no longer obvious to him that the United States could not use force."

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What's amazing is they're doing it thru Dick Cheney!
Anonymous | 07.20.07 - 8:35 pm | #
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Well we all know that dubya can't tie his shoe laces.


Move! American Convoy Coming Through
Watch From Driver's Seat as US Humvee Negotiates Iraqi Traffic
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index..._Coming_Through

US Reportedly Investigating PKK Weapons
Turkey Says US Admits Corrupt Personnel May Have Played a Supply Role
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...ing_PKK_Weapons


http://www.winnipegfreepress.com...p- 4580413c.html
A black American leader scheduled to attend a rally at the Ontario legislature and deliver a lecture in Toronto was apparently denied entry to Canada on Tuesday amid acrimonious accusations of racism, anti-Semitism and questions about free speech.


Why is everyone looking at Geo. Bush, I can it's the Pentagon that's running his butt. What's amazing is they're doing it thru Dick Cheney!


http://www.counterpunch.org/ stcl...ir06082007.html
Rockets, Napalm, Torpedoes & Lie - Israel's Attack on the USS Liberty, Revisited .

When are the Christians in this country going to wake up and realize they are being used?


It is also completely unnecessary and the documentary is superb without it!
sane
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I have to agree with you.
Without the music it would be one of the best information pieces I have seen yet.
But I must be honest.
I couldn't even finish watching it, I was getting a headache. The music is way too loud.


http://www.thejewishweek.com/new...hp3? artid=14212
Keeping Talk Radio Pro-Israel.

And the Zionist haven't taken over American Media?
Right.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 8:23 pm | #
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Oh man, wtf????

How many times must we be educated into reality???

>>CEOS IN THE MEDIA IN AMERICA

National Amusement (CBS/Viacom): Sumner Redstone
Subsidiaries:
-Viacom: Philippe P. Dauman
-CBS: Les Moonves

GE (NBC): Jeffrey Immelt
Subsidiary:
-NBC: Jeff Zucker took over in 2/6/2007 from Robert C. Wright [After the insanity of the Cheney regime]

Disney: John E. Pepper Chairman/Bob Iger CEO
Subsidiaries:
-ABC: Ann Sweeney
-Walt Disney Studios: Dick Cook

Time Warner: Dick Parsons
Subsidiaries:
-AOL: Randel Falco
-Turner Broadcasting: Philip Kent
-Time: Ann Moore
-Time Warner Cable: Don Logan

News Corp: Rupert Murdoch
Subsidiaries:
-Fox Broadcasting: Pres. Ed Wilson [no ceo/chairman]
-Fox Filmed Entertainment: Jim Gianopulos/Tom Rothman [co-chairs]
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Sources:
http://www.onesource.com
http://forbes.com
Company websites


I really couldn't finish watching the ultimate con, too damn much loud music.
I wish they could remake it without that damn music.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 8:18 pm | #
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Now that I must disagree with.

jesus it is like you want a revolution spoon fed to you without commercial interuptions while you lay on your couch wondering if you should watch an old episode of "Charmed" or a new 911 truth video, wtf?

Wake up man!

The revolution will not be televised, it will be live:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=uTCQSk2l8bc


http://www.thejewishweek.com/new...hp3? artid=14212
Keeping Talk Radio Pro-Israel.

And the Zionist haven't taken over American Media?
Right.


RE: The Ultimate Con.
I don't know who made this clip but the information and the way it was done was great and would be really great tool to help educate people.
But the music ruins it.
You have to really try to hear the segments because of the music.
If I wanted to hear music during a documentary I would turn on a radio.
oldman | 07.20.07 - 8:13 pm | #
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Now on this one, I must agree. It is supposed to be an undebunkable documentary, but the music obviously attempts to convey opinion.

It is also completely unnecessary and the documentary is superb without it!

I have been waiting for it for months because I was so impressed with the trailer.


I really couldn't finish watching the ultimate con, too damn much loud music.
I wish they could remake it without that damn music.


Timeline of the 2007 Lebanon conflict - Wikipedia, the free ...In a report by Lebanon's Defense Minister Elias Murr to al Arabiyeh TV recounted that the attack on UNIFIL was not a suicide bomb but it was a remotely ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Tim...ebanon_conflict - 73k - Cached - Similar pages

Iraq insurgents kill top police, hit US convoyMaster Sergeant Robert Powell, a spokesman for U.S. forces in the area, said it was believed to have been remotely detonated and not a suicide bomb attack. ...
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/ eng...tent_399471.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

German V2 Missiles ImagesThat is actually not a suicide bomb.. The pilot is supposed to aim it in manually and then eject.. Check this site out if you want info about german WWII ...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/fo.../thread2804/ pg1 - 51k - Cached - Similar pages

Bombings Rock 2 Turkish Cities (washingtonpost.com)"It was not a suicide bomb," he said outside the hospital where the wounded were carried, half a block from the tree-lined commercial street where the ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...- 2004Jun24.html - Similar pages

Car bomb kills 30 in market east of Baghdad - ABC News (Australian ..."It was not a suicide bomb," he said. "A car parked in the middle of the square and later it blew up." More than 200 people have been killed in bombings ...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stori.../18/ 1462630.htm - 16k - Cached - Similar pages


RE: The Ultimate Con.
I don't know who made this clip but the information and the way it was done was great and would be really great tool to help educate people.
But the music ruins it.
You have to really try to hear the segments because of the music.
If I wanted to hear music during a documentary I would turn on a radio.


Documentary banned by Republicans in 1994 (related to Bush Sr. and the Franklin Affair)
http://video.google.ca/videoplay...earch& plindex=0


I guess the news is just pissing me off again as usual.


If people are wondering where little bush's head is, maybe the doctor who performs the colonoscopy will find it stuck up there where the sun don't shine.

But aside from that it's quite possible that little bush might not wake up, and you'll all have to bow down to Dick as your new fearless leader.

Only God knows, but maybe this was pre-planned to let Dick have the reigns for a while, just long enoguh to attack Iran and get that war with Russia and China under way.

It seems that most Americans think that Russia doesn't have a military anymore and that when the walls came down and the USSR broke up that all their NUKES vanished away and they can no longer attack, but these same people also believe that chickens have lips and global warming doesn't exist.

In reality Russia has enough NUKES to destroy the planet many times over and I'm pretty positive that China could ruin your whole day if it decided to LAUNCH against the US, the question is will your master Dick and company continue to push them beyond the point of no return.

Here's a possible scenario.

Israel attempts to LUANCH against Iran, Russia then takes out Israel COMPLETELY. After all they are an anti-christ, nazi, cancer upon the earth and nothing more than a base of operations for the US and Brittain.

So the US has a choice, either accept it, and kiss Israel by-by or try to do something stupid like retaliate against Russia, and/or China.

If the US decides to take out Russia then guess what folks? Prison Planet may go off line, and even if it stayed on line, all the members and readers won't be able to see it because they'll be dead. And guess what happens to the new world order? It will be dust and ashes.

So neither the US, nor Russia, nor China wants a 3rd world war because WE ALL DIE in that event, except for a few thousand people that have to spend eternity in bunkers bellow the ground, as the air, water and food will be deadly.

But the problem is that when your dealing with PSYCHOTIC SERIAL KILLERS, like Cheney, and his partners in crime you never know just how crazy they will get.

But then again, if it gets close to that happening it's also possible that some of our military personel will stop playing the treasoness games they've been playing and arrest these criminals and their buddies before they can start pushing those buttons. If the military arrests some of the criminals, and possibly prevents 3rd world war, then maybe, just maybe things can turn around.

But as long as these psycho serial murderers like cheney and the christian right wingnut extremists are allowed to continue committing crimes of murder, treason and every other sin under the sun justice will take a back seat and lies and crime will reign. Electing Hillary or Ron or anyone else won't accomplish a thing by itself. The serial murderers have to go lest we start a 3rd world war, and I mean a REAL 3rd world war with NUKES


Fucking cool videos and site.
Banned message to the American People
http://ahmedismailibrahim.wordpr...deo-reuploaded/
For Iraq, it's 9/11 everyday
http://ahmedismailibrahim.wordpr...ss.com/tag/911/ (2nd video down)


I am getting tired of all the fake "suicide bombing" stories that seem to put the elite in a warmongering trance. Well as they will probably relate the next terror attack to a group of "suicide" bombers, let us review some historical evidence:

Madrid 'Terror Suspects' Did NOT Conveniently Commit Suicide
http://www.vialls.com/myahudi/ma...udi/ madrid.html
Local Madrid residents are choked by deliberate smoke screens and blinded by bright battle lamps, five seconds BEFORE the Spec Ops explosion which surgically tore the front off the 'suspect' apartment block
Are you ready for the American 'War on Terror' explanation about the exploding terrorist suspects in the Madrid apartment? Here it is, quoted verbatim from "The Australian" newspaper, which is naturally quoting other newspapers, which in turn are quoting unnamed western security experts. I kid you not, you'll die laughing at this one - the mythical 'al Qaeda' now has a printed suicide manual that its invisible members leave at crime scenes!
"The [Madrid] terrorists who blew themselves up while shouting 'God is great' were following al-Qa'ida's textbook policy of self-destruction when cornered. Sarhane ben Abdelmajid Fakhet, as ringleader of the Spanish train massacre plot, was taking no chances. A suicide belt found on his body had been packed with at least 2kg of explosives.
"The defence of the bombers' lair was an al-Qa'ida textbook operation. Security services have got to know the thinking of Osama bin Laden's tacticians since a manual was discovered by British Special Branch officers who raided the Manchester home of terror suspect Anas al-Liby in 2000. Al-Liby, a Libyan, is on the run from the FBI with a $US25million ($33million) bounty on his head.
"Entitled Military Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants, the 180-page textbook lays down rules for choosing a flat and preparing to be attacked. Under the heading Security Precautions Relating to Apartments, volunteers are told to devise ways of leaving a flat in case of a surprise attack. Spain's Interior Minister, Angel Acebes, admitted two or three people might have escaped before the Madrid suicide explosion on the weekend.
"'When renting these apartments, one should avoid isolated or deserted locations, so the enemy would not be able to catch those living there easily,' the manual states. The Madrid bombers were holed up in the densely packed suburb of Leganes Norte, which had to be cleared before police could storm the building, giving time for some suspects to flee.
"'All members of the group should be committed to a security plan to 'minimise the work loss as much as possible' in case of a raid. Some should be assigned to monitor the flat; one should be planted close to the nearest police station 'to communicate the first sign of enemy movement'; and an armed guard should be posted.
"The al-Qa'ida manual says it should be agreed in advance which members will engage the enemy with bullets and who will flee with important documents. The occupants of the first-floor flat in Madrid spotted the police and began firing. The manual lays down the qualities required by a volunteer. Under the heading Sacrifice, it states: 'He has to be willing to do the work and undergo martyrdom.'
"Under Tranquillity and Unflappability, it states that the member 'should have a calm personality that allows him to endure ... traumas such as killing one or all of his organisation's comrades' ".



Clear photos taken immediately after the blast prove that this was an expert demolition job. The thin front walls of the Madrid apartment block have been neatly blown out with light frame charges, leaving the pillars, floors and rear walls in pristine condition, unmarked by soot. Pay special attention to the painting on the inside wall in the right-hand photo. It is covered with fragile 3-mm glass, which is not even cracked.


For now. Just refuse the national I.D. coming as a result of the next terror false flag. They will blame "US" for not passing the amnesty bill and the resulting wave of terror that could have been prevented in their estimation with the bill's hidden mandate for a biometric solution to the border crisis (a problem created by greed and corruption - one that is most definitely not going to be fixed by the terror masters).


MInd control.

Just take a good look at the silent majority waving their flags.


You told Noory you had a zero point energy device, pc, all you have in your hand is your dick.


Anyone see the movie "Shooter"?


That is what it is gonna be like.


Is Bush sick? They're going to look up his butt.
yours truly | 07.20.07 - 7:10 pm | #

-------------------------------------------------- ---------------They won' like what they find, Bushy must learn to control his passions.


When that does happen. We can thank our congress and our president for whoring themselves out to the globalists. They should be the first to go down. Along with the extremely rich and wealthy who do nothing but feed off the rest of us through this BEAST system.

There is gonna be Hell to pay!


You can't even spell, you moron.


When they bring the bio-chips, they better bring their armies. Cause their is going to be war. And breast milk will be the least of their concerns.


They out to kick you off the site, and take your dog with you.


Nursing mothers (according to Brian Williams, nightly news) are now "allowed" to carry breast milk aboard airplanes.....


What a bunch of sick mother fuckers. We are going down the shit hole. "ALLOWED"..... please.


Oops! You're not supposed to know I'm the same person!


That's better, that's my Sandy.


Just acting silly, I guess. You know me shit, I'm no quitter.


What's wrong Sandy? You sound depressed.


Cheney will be acting pres on sat. Launch those bunker busters! Attack the entire middle east! Go, go, go! Kill everyone, I'm tired of paying my bills and my crappy life.


Concerning Will Smith and the New World Order:
Personal life

Smith married Sheree Zampino in 1992. They had a son, Willard Christopher III, also known as "Trey", but divorced in 1995. Trey appeared in his father's music video for the 1997 single, "Just The Two Of Us." Smith married actress Jada Pinkett in 1997. Together they have had two children: Jaden Christopher Syre (born 199, his co-star in The Pursuit of Happyness, and Willow Camille Reign (born 2000). Along with his brother, Harry Smith, he owns Treyball Development Inc., a Beverly Hills-based company named after his first son. He has been consistently listed in Fortune Magazine's "Richest 40" list of the forty wealthiest Americans under the age of 40. Smith and his family reside on Star Island (Florida) in Miami, Florida, and in Philadelphia. He helped the community by giving money to Katrina victims.

On July 2, 2005, Smith served as host for the Live 8 concert in his native Philadelphia in front of an enormous crowd, and later performed a set with DJ Jazzy Jeff.

Smith also produced All of Us, a program loosely based on his love life and family, in 2005.

Smith is an enthusiast for the games of chess, bingo and rummoli. He is also quite fond of video games.

Once every year Will takes his mother to Canyon Ranch spa in Tucson, Arizona for a week.

Although there were claims Will had converted to Islam after filming Ali, he remains a committed Christian but is still open to all faiths.

Smith remains good friends with Tatyana Ali, former co-star on Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Will was the one that mainly convinced her to enter the field of music, due to her singing shown on some episodes of the show.
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Sounds like the perfect COINTELPRO NWO agent to me!

What about this great Illuminati TV moment
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zLIPYlfwBA

COINTELPRO:
COINTELPRO used a broad array of methods, including: "Infiltration: Agents and informers did not merely spy on political activists. Their main purpose was to discredit and disrupt. Their very presence served to undermine trust and scare off potential supporters. The FBI and police exploited this fear to smear genuine activists as agents." [5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

More on the great program of COINTELPRO:
Techniques Carrying A Serious Risk of Physical, Emotional, or Economic Damage.

The Bureau recognized that some techniques were more likely than others to cause serious physical, emotional, or economic damage to the targets. Any proposed use of those techniques was scrutinized carefully by headquarters supervisory personnel, in an attempt to balance the "greater good" to be achieved by the proposal against the known or risked harm to the target. If the "good" was sufficient, the proposal was approved. 39 For instance, in discussing anonymous letters to spouses, the agent who supervised the New Left COINTELPRO stated:

[Before recommending approval] I would want to know what you want to get out of this, who are these people. If it's somebody, and say they did split up, what would accrue from it as far as disrupting the New Left is concerned? Say they broke up, what then....

[The question would be] is it worth it? 39a

Similarly, with regard to the "snitch jacket" technique -- falsely labeling a group member as a police informant -- the chief of the Racial Intelligence Section stated:

You have to be able to make decisions and I am sure that labeling somebody as an informant, that you'd want to make certain that it served a good purpose before you did it and not do it haphazardly. . . . It is a serious thing. . . . As far as I am aware, in the black extremist area, by using that technique, no one was killed. I am sure of that. 40

Moore was asked whether the fact that no one was killed was the result of "luck or planning." He answered:

"Oh, it just happened that way, I am sure." 41

It is thus clear that, as Sullivan said, "No holds were barred, 42 although some holds were weighed more carefully than others. When the willingness to use techniques which were concededly dangerous or harmful to the targets is combined with the range of purposes and criteria by which these targets were chosen, the result is neither "within bounds" nor "justified" in a free society. 43


Icke had made accusations against Bob Hope (who surely must have seen the humour in them), George Bush Sr and George Bush Jr, Ted Heath, Boxcar Willie, the Queen of England, Kris Kristofferson and Al Gore, among others, denouncing them as illuminati reptilians from the stratosphere...

...but what about Will Smith, the Fresh Prince of Bel Air ?

LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Smith


Is Bush sick? They're going to look up his butt.


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"What line?" Clinton feigned suprise and ignorance. He looked at Hal Meadows as he continued, "You mean I've left that state of mine? In the state of mind I'm in, there are no boundaries anyway." He walked over to the table and snorted a line of cocaine. "I come here to get away from it all. This kind of business is pleasure."

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"She's minding her own business. I'm just here to unwind, see the show, maybe do a little hunting (referring to A MOST DANGEROUS GAME). I've got a bird (helicopter) ready to fly me back when I'm through. Hey speaking of 'Byrd' (he gestured my way) I hear she's moved up to the big house (White House)." Referring to his friend and mentor Senator Byrd he asked, "So what's his position now?"

"The same." Houston answered. "Probably like this..." Houston pantomimed a lewd sodomy pose while everyone laughed. "He still runs the show."


Clinton kept his eyes fixed on Houston's "caboose" and said "Why don't you show her (referring to me) the way out and show me that again?" If I could have thought at the moment, I would have realized Bill Clinton was/is bisexual. My personal sexual experience with Clinton was limited, but I had witnessed him engaged in homosexual activity during an orgy at Swiss Villa.

..Clinton added to what Houston said, talking in local colloquialisms. "Bottom line is, we've got control of the (drug) industry, therefore, we've got control of them (suppliers and buyers). You control the guy underneath ya' and Uncle (Sam) has ya' covered. What have you got to lose? No risk. No one's gonna hang ya' out to dry. And whatever spills off the truck as it passes through (he laughed and snorted another line of coke) you get to clean up.

..Clinton gestured to me and told Houston, "Get her out of here".

Houston didn't move and laughed. "She's a Presidential Model. She's kept secrets bigger than yours."

Clinton responded "I don't care. Get her the fuck out of here."

Hall's wife led me away and locked me in a back bedroom. After an indeterminate period of time, I heard her telephone Hillary at the guest villa. She then drove me up the mountain through the dark to meet with Hillary. Although I had previously met Hillary we had very little to say to each other -- particularly since I was still dazed and tranced from the tortures I had endured at the CIA Near Death Trauma Center in Lampe. Hillary knew I was a mind-controlled slave, and, like Bill Clinton, just took it in stride as a "normal" part of life in politics


Money--An Abstraction That Ensnares
http://www.savethemales.ca/
July 14, 2007 By Henry Makow Ph.D.

Midsummer seems a good time to poll my readers on how they deal with the temptation to devote most of their energy to making money.

Beyond a certain modicum necessary for survival and security, money becomes an abstraction. In the words of Samuel Butler, "enough is always a little more than one has."

The material world literally is organized to steal our souls from God. Like spiders, the central bankers, who serve Lucifer, spin this money out of nothing in order to ensnare us in a web of debt. And like spiders, the ultimate plan seems to be to devour us, body and soul.

How much of your thought and energy is devoted to money?

Stock market trading on the Internet literally has placed a slot machine in every home or hand. Millions of people trade during their workday. As a result, millions obsess constantly about money.

There is a tendency to think stock trading is cool if you're making money but morally corrupt if you're losing it. It can’t be both. Is "good" defined by success?

The trader is ensnared as long as he is successful, and can only find peace when he is bankrupted. Eventually there will be a crash and we all will be liberated.

Making money by stock trading is very enticing. It's often easy. Latch on to an Apple, for example. Money is very empowering. It lets you do things. It gives you freedom. It's a rush.

Of course, losing money is very debilitating. It's a bummer. It's easy to get hooked on the highs and lows. But some experienced traders manage to take them in stride.

I made a lot of money from "Scruples" and lost much of it gambling on options. I really didn’t know what I was doing and was arrogant and slow to learn. People who are successful in one realm mistakenly think they can do anything.

When I came into money, I lost my identity. My money owned me. I became a money manager. Instead of using it to advance personal goals, my sense of self waxed and waned with my balance. When my broker asked, "How are you?" I'd say to myself, "You tell me."

I didn’t have clear goals, so it was easy to be sidetracked. I was a product of the male arrested development endemic in this culture.

In retrospect, I'd be laughing if I had just bought blue chips and forgot about them. I wish I could say I had that wisdom and character.

The stock market is the only real democracy left. By cutting the vast middle class in on their wealth, the bankers ensure their loyalty. People don't care about truth and freedom, war and peace, as long as they have comfortable houses, BMW's and jacuzzis.

Many people put their faith in Gold. They say money is paper but isn't gold just a stone after all? The market is manipulated. The bankers could demolish the price of gold simply by raising interest rates. Friday July 13, gold hovered around $666 all day. Coincidence?

We will do anything to avoid serving God, anything to avoid taking the ego out of gold (symbolized by the l.) God really means serving "ourselves" since I believe obeying God is the principle of our personal development. Worship is serving our ideal selves, the person God created us to be.

IT'S NOT WHAT YOU HAVE

When I was rich I found I didn’t appreciate having things as much as I did as a grad student. I used to live on about $10K and wanted for nothing. I actually saved. It's not what you have; it's how much you appreciate what you have. And if it comes too easily, you tend to appreciate it less.

My first car, a nearly new Mazda GLC, took all my savings ($7K.) It meant the world to me. I became nauseous when some kids sat on the hood and made a dent. My last car, purchased when I was rich, was an Infiniti J30. I wrote a cheque for $37K and thought, "what the hell, it's OK."

Money is an abstraction that ensnares. Beyond our necessities, it just steals our lives. How did Ted Turner manage when his $10 billion fortune was reduced to $3 billion (after AOL bought Time Warner?) Did it sting to go from the 12th richest man to the 48th? I bet it did. Did it affect his lifestyle? I doubt it!

We can't buy happiness but we keep on trying. Money makes us feel good and feeling good is what motivates us. Only, the feeling doesn’t last. I have a hunch that Love (God) is what provides the permanent feel-good experience. We have substituted money for love. As a result, we can't love.

Henry David Thoreau said, "A man is rich in proportion to the time he can devote to other things than money." In those terms, many people–especially the rich-- are poor. Those "other things" are what make us human.

I'd like to hear your concise comments on how much thought and energy you devote to money, and how you feel about it.


Sen. Ted Kennedy discusses the importance of net neutrality as it relates to our democracy
YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...h? v=6UlCXXZTTh8

SENATOR CARL LEVIN NUMBER ONE RECIPIENT OF AIPAC MONEY
MAY 01, 2007 DEMOCRACY NOW
YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h? v=PUV6XEjIREI

New Dodd TV Ad: "Global"
Senator Chris Dodd's tv ad on global warming and his plan to institute a Corporate Carbon Tax. The ad is on the air in New Hampshi Senator Chris Dodd's tv ad on global warming and his plan to institute a Corporate Carbon Tax. The ad is on the air in New Hampshire and Iowa.
YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...h? v=1E5eLlvRYPE


9/11 Event, Genoside, Chemtrails, Satanism & Bohemian Grove.
"Illuminati Sex Slaves Paint Horrifying Picture" By Henry Makow Ph.D. Two women tortured, brainwashed and prostituted by the Illuminati paint a disturbing picture of how the world is really run. Both say they were prostituted to world leaders as children. They are Brice Taylor, author of Thanks for the Memories (1999) and Cathy O'Brien (with Mark Phillips) author of Trance-Formation of America (1995). These books are consistent and confirm the revelations of Illuminati programmer "Svali" ("Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy.") If you want to understand the world, you must read these three women. Essentially every country is run by a shadow government, which owes its loyalty to the New World Order controlled by a 13-member Illuminati Council. According to Svali, "each
YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h?v=d9G6dJPZ- OQ


LDS Judge Jay Bybee and Donald Rumsfield Justifies Child Sex Abuse & Torture in Iraq!
It's the MKUltra LDS/CIA Mind Control In Action and Fully Exposed In Iraq and Still Under-Cover in the U.S.

Dear friends,

The following is a powerful article on the extent of abuse and torture committed by the US military and contractors in Iraq. The US media have failed to cover the abuse and rape of Iraqi children. Thanks to people like Seymour Hersh of the New Yorker and William Rivers Pitt of the excellent news source truthout.org, some people are learning the truth. Please help to spread the news so that this kind of abuse never happens again.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/...4/ 072004A.shtml

Torturing Children
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Tuesday 20 July 2004

The biggest story of the Iraq war is not about missing weapons of mass destruction, or about deep-cover CIA officers getting their covers blown by vengeful White House agents, or even about 896 dead American soldiers. These have been covered to one degree or another, and then summarily dismissed by the American mainstream news media. The biggest story of the Iraq war has not enjoyed any coverage in America, though it has been exploding across the international news media for several weeks now.

The biggest story of the Iraq war is about the torture of Iraqi children.

A German TV magazine called 'Report Mainz' recently aired accusations from the International Red Cross, to the effect that over 100 children are imprisoned in U.S.- controlled detention centers, including Abu Ghraib. "Between January and May of this year, we've registered 107 children, during 19 visits in 6 different detention locations," said Red Cross representative Florian Westphal in the report.

The report also outlined eyewitness testimony of the abuse of these children. Staff Sergeant Samuel Provance, who was stationed at Abu Ghraib, said that interrogating officers had gotten their hands on a 15 or 16 year old girl. Military police only stopped the interrogation when the girl was half undressed. A separate incident described a 16 year old being soaked with water, driven through the cold, smeared with mud, and then presented before his weeping father, who was also a prisoner.

Seymour Hersh, the New Yorker reporter who first broke the story of torture at Abu Ghraib, recently spoke at an ACLU convention. He has seen the pictures and the videotapes the American media has not yet shown. "The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling, and the worst part is the soundtrack, of the boys shrieking," said Hersh. "And this is your government at war."

Hersh described the prison scene as, "a series of massive crimes, criminal activity by the president and the vice president, by this administration," and that there has been, "a massive amount of criminal wrongdoing that was covered up at the highest command out there, and higher."
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William Rivers Pitt is a New York Times and international bestseller of two books - 'War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You To Know' and 'The Greatest Sedition is Silence.'
http://www.mormon.citymax.com/LD...m/ LDSJudge.html
The justification for TORTURE was written by LDS Judge Jay Bybee (see articles on this site-Iraq Torture), graduate of BYU and politically supported and endorsed in his views on torture by LDS Senators: Orrin Hatch of Utah, Harry Reid of Nevada, Robert Bennett of Utah, Michael Crapo of Idaho, and Gordon Smith of Oregon.
Cathy O'Brien, mind-control sex slave victim stated in front of witnesses in July of 2001 that she had seen Orrin Hatch with two mind-control sex slaves. Neal A. Maxwell, recently deceased Apostle in the LDS church was married to a Hinckley and WAS a CIA agent as reported in the SLC Tribune Newspaper. Neal was involved in the MKUltra Mind Control. Neal worked for Wallace Bennett (father to Bob Bennett) back in Washington DC. Robert Bennett and Bill Bennett along with Senator Byrd, George Bush, Sr., Dick Cheney, (Bush,Jr. was a victim who we feel is rebelling against this insanity thanks to his wife and Christianity) are all mentioned in Cathy O'Brian's Book "Trance Formation of America" as being involved with the MKUltra Mind Control project. Cathy O'Brien names names of those responsible for the sexual abuse, mind control involving drugs and torture which was done by government leaders, CIA agents, psychologists, military leaders, Catholic Religious Leaders, LDS Religious Leaders. We were given four CD's that contain over 28,000 documents of proof. All information presented in her book was reviewed by a panel of lawyers and judges before her expose book was published. She can not be sued for slander or defamation because it's true. Senator Frank Church exposed the reality of the MKUltra mind control in late 70's - it went underground and continues still today! The torture in Iraq is true. The torture being justified by LDS Judge Jay Bybee is true. LDS political leaders backing up his justification of torture is true. Rumsfield signed the memo approving torture. All of the corruption needs to be exposed. They can no longer come up with an "excuse" to cover their justification of evil actions.
Just as the Catholic Priests have been exposed in their cover-up sexual abuse, Gordon B. Hinckley and other LDS Hierarchy need to be exposed in their corruption. Gordon B. Hinckley is responsible for the theft of the "Lord's Gold Mine" (Bullfrog Mine, Nevada) while he served on Zion's Bank Board. Afterall, who would dare to make war with the anti-Christ? (see "Daniels Prophecy" on this website)
In Cathy O'Brien's book she quotes Senator Byrd member of the KuKluxKlan justifying the atrocities of mind control/torture/sexual abuse to bring about the prophesied One World Order Millennium of Peace and states that afterall the Pope and the Mormon Prophet are fully in support of the MKUltra mind control program.


Darrel Scott, father of Craig (watched two of his friends murdered at Columbine High School) and Rachel Joy Scott (murdered in same school after professing her faith in God), spoke before the Subcommittee on Crime House Judiciary Committee, United States House of Representatives, on Thursday, May 27, 1999, at 2:00 p.m., at 2141 Rayburn House Office Building.
http://www.wiolawapress.com/educatio.htm
The following is the speech he gave:
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"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good and evil in the heart of men and of women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher and the other children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers. The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.

"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughters death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent. I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy - it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of that blame lies here in this room. Much of that blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves..

"I wrote a poem just four nights ago that express my feelings best. This was written way before I knew l would be speaking here today.

'Your laws ignore our deepest needs
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage.
You've outlawed simple prayer.

'Now gunshots fill our classrooms.
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere.
And ask the question "WHY"?

'You regulate restrictive laws.
Through legislative creed.
Add yet you fail to understand.
That God is what we need!'

"Men and women are three part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our makeup, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual influences were present within our educational Systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historic fact.

"What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God and in doing so, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs - - politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that continue to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our OWN hearts. Political posturing and restrictive legislation is not the answers. The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched!

"We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy Television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored. We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God. As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes. He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America and around the world to realize that on April 20, 1999 at Columbine High School - - prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your conscience and denies your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA - I give to you sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before you cast the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain. The young people of this country will not allow that to happen."
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well naturally THEY want us NOT to have guns.. and then they can really do their SATANIC AGENDAS of BLOOD RITES and HUMAN SACRIFICIAL MURDER even more FREELY and KILL OUR CHILDREN IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ANYTIME THEY WANT TO OR DRAG OUR CHILDREN OUT OF OUR HOMES INTO THEIR SATANIC BLOOD RITE RELIGION !!!


http://www.wiolawapress.com/educatio.htm
This is from page 110 and 111 of Cathy's book about her MON_ARCK meaning MONKEY INTO BUTTERFLY MIND CONTROL SLAVE AND AQUINO'S CHAMBERS OF HORRORS
Intensive mind-control. behavior programming began at once, and Houston ensured that I was taken to my appointed destinations under the guise of his travels in the country music industry.. In the early 1980's , my base programming was instilled at Fort Campbell, Kentucky by U S> Army LT. Colonel Michael Aquino.. Aquino holds a TOP SECRET clearance in the Defense Intelligence Agency's Psychological Warfare Division (Psy Ops) .. He is a professed Neo -Nazi, the founder of the Himmler inspired satanic Temple of Set, and has been charged with child ritual and sexual abuse at the Presidio Day Care in San Francisco, California.. But like my father and Cox, Aquino remains " ABOVE THE LAW" while he continues to traumatize and program CIA destined young minds in a quest to reportedly create the "superior race" of Project Monarch Mind-Controlled slaves.. I quickly learned that Aquino did not adhere to his profoundly professed occult superstition any more than I did.. His "satanic power" was in the form of numerous variations of high voltage stun guns, which he used on me regularly.. Although Aquino used occultism(blood trauma ) as a trauma base, his programming was high tech and "clean" not muddled in a proverbial witches' brew of ignorance.. He quickly dispelled the Cox influence, and began programming me according to Byrd's specifications as his "own little witch" for sadistic sex, covert CIA drug muling , black mail and prostitution operations..

During the three months I was back with Cox, a muscle in my upper vaginal wall was cut and dropped in preparation for Houston to flesh carve a hideous witch's face for Senator Byrd's perversion.. Aquino provided the ancient instructions on how to mutilate me. and Houston used silver nitrate and hot exacto knives to carve the details of the face without any from of anesthesia.. By flexing the muscle downward, the face protruded out of my vagina. Not only did this surgery give Byrd a vagina suited to his minute, underdeveloped penis, it also provided an equitable "curiosity" to be displayed over and over again in both commercial and non-commercial pornography and prostitution......................


Drugs.. which Aquino helped develop over the years.. that were purposely used on at least one of the students KLEBOLD or HARRIS, and OTHER students who were part of the Murdering of a teacher and Students at COLUMBINE today on June 8th..1999.. Darrel Scott father to Craig and Rachel Joy Scott, who was murdered.. had this to say about the events at Columbine.. that were actually orchestrated to take away the SECOND AMENDMENT... the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS by these Satanist MIND CONTROL OPERATIVES


Home schooling has become the norm in this country. Senator Byrd has said that he would withhold funding to the various states until it reached a point where state governments would be reliant on the federal government to come in and help them with the education system. This year, every state in the United States accepted the Outcome Based Education financing, because they were told it was the only way they could receive any federal funding or any grant money. Every state in the United States accepted Outcome Based Education but one. One governor said the federal government has no business meddling with our children's minds, and that is Fob James Jr. of Alabama.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sm4csi/nwo...brien- part2.htm


her job as leading peacemaker to the region.
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Condi rice is doing a helluva job, I'd say.


As soon as Kelly was born, Senator Byrd ordered that we be transferred back to Nashville, Tennessee, where we would be under the control of our second mind control handler, Alex Houston. Alex Houston was the stage hypnotist and ventriloquist in the country music industry that Mark referred to earlier. Alex Houston would provide a means of Kelly and I traveling throughout the United States to various military and NASA installations for mind control programming, in and out of Washington DC, into Canada, throughout Mexico, and throughout the Caribbean.

The country music industry would provide the perfect cover because I dressed like a prostitute and I acted like a total air head, and people tended to think that was probably the norm for the life of a country music entertainer. That was the public image that was protected.

When Senator Byrd ordered that Kelly and I were taken in for mind control programming, we were subjected to sophisticated mind control programming by our primary mind controller at that time, programmer, Lt. Col. Michael Aquino. This is the Lt. Colonel of the psychological warfare division, and founder of the occult Temple of Set, that is proliferating on our military bases. The same Lt. Col. Michael Aquino that is named in the Presidio daycare scandal.

He uses occultism as a trauma base for mind control, and it is my experience that his satanic power was in the form of a stun gun. This high voltage stun gun was used in conjunction with sleep, food and water deprivation, to compartmentalize memory of programs into my child's brain. He knew that this method of mind control would be sufficient for carrying out government operations.

In 1983, Senator Byrd ordered that I attend a White House cocktail party, and he acted in the capacity of a pimp, and prostituted me to then president Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan, as you all well know, is an actor, and he was acting to create an illusion of something entirely different to the American populace, while behind the scenes he was very much involved in implementing New World Order controls and eroding our constitutional values.

I heard Ronald Reagan say to then Prime Minister Brian Mulroney of Canada, who was also involved in this New World Order effort, that he believed the only way to world piece was through mind control of the masses. I know from personal experience that there can be no peace of mind under mind control, and I wonder what kind of a world peace could we possibly have with people that have no peace of mind? Since I wasn't in control of my own mind, I had no free will, and without a free will, I had no ability to express soul. I had no ability to express spirituality, and I am deeply concerned for a plan of mind control of the masses, and deeply concerned for the plan for a totally robotic society for the purposes of world peace? It certainly isn't my definition of peace, and certainly is one more reason why it is so imperative that all of you know what mind control entails, so you can think about it and take action now, while there is still time.

At that point in time, I also heard Senator Byrd talking about how he was counting on the American populace to do absolutely nothing about all of this. Because he said good people don't think to look for criminal activity. Good people don't have criminal minds and they don't think criminally, and therefore when we have something put in front of us like "world peace," something that we all hold so precious and dear, we're not apt to look behind that, at what the reality is behind the scenes, and they were counting on good people to do absolutely nothing and to assume absolutely nothing.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sm4csi/nwo...brien- part2.htm


This problem of formaldehyde in these FEMA trailers, is this because of use of (I thought outlawed) foam insulation??
I wonder if some gubmint greedy fuck let 'em use this shit to dispose of old stockpiles, at a profit??
Kind of reminds me of the flouride scam.......


At that time, there was a musician playing music behind him named Wayne Cox. Later, Wayne Cox told me that musically wasn't the only way that he also backed Senator Byrd, but that he backed him politically as well. Wayne Cox subjected me to an occult ritual during which I was so traumatized that my suggestible mind accepted the program that Wayne Cox would become my first handler in this CIA MK Ultra project. As my handler, Wayne Cox would follow orders from Senator Byrd, to make sure that I was at designated places at specific times for whatever purposes Senator Byrd ordered.

The first thing that happened is I was taken to Wayne Cox's home state, to Chatham Louisiana. Senator Byrd wanted Wayne Cox to become my first handler because he knew that I would be subjected to further trauma. Senator Byrd wanted more compartments developed in my brain. He wanted more compartments to be programmed for the criminal covert operations that I would be forced to participate in. And therefore I was subjected to numerous occult rituals. This manipulated me by my religion, and made me feel totally hopeless in what was going on.

Wayne Cox was using trauma to trigger other mercenaries into operation at that time, because in the state of Louisiana, under the direction of Louisiana Senator J. Bennett Johnston, there was a mercenary operation in full swing. And these mercenaries had all been Dissociative Identity Disorder children who had been targeted by the CIA for mercenary purposes. They had been trained to carry out these secret operations, and to keep the secret within the compartments of their brain. J. Bennett Johnston was directing them. And Wayne Cox, under the direction of J. Bennett Johnston, would go and trigger through trauma these mercenaries into operation while delivering J. Bennett Johnston's orders.

By 1978, it was determined that I had endured sufficient trauma to be programmed on a more sophisticated level, and J. Bennett Johnston took to me Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma. It was there that I endured the first extensive military mind control programming that would force me to participate in a trial run operation. At that time, J. Bennett Johnston was sending the mercenaries into South America, and he firmly believed that when the airplanes went to South America with the mercenaries, that they should not come back empty. Therefore, the airplanes were coming back full of cocaine, that would further fund the CIA's criminal covert operations, and usher in the New World Order.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sm4csi/nwo...brien- part2.htm


I also learned at Mackinac Island Michigan about the Catholic's involvement in mind control. Now this is certainly not to say that all Catholics are bad. Not any more than I'm saying that all CIA is bad. I've since learned that seems to be a criminal faction running through most aspects of our society, and it was my experience, having come from a predominantly Catholic area and being raised a Catholic, that I was subjected to the Catholic aspects of mind control. At that time, then Prime Minister of Canada, Pierre Trudeau, who claims publicly to be Jesuit, was very much interested in mind control, was interested in mind control of the masses. He was a part of that intelligence arm of the Vatican that was interested in becoming the one world church in the New World Order. I heard many conversations pertaining to how criminal covert activity is going on in this country and around the world, would be funneled through the Catholic Church and designated immune, for implementing what Adolph Hitler and George Bush term "New World Order."

It was around that time, 1966 to be exact, that I made first communion at our local Catholic Church, Muskegon St. Francis de Salles. At that time, Father Don was the head of our church, and was bringing mind control in on a mass scale. I'm sure many of you all know the Catholics have been sued for vast amountsof money for child abuse proliferated in the church. And this is one reason why. In 1966, after I made my first communion, I was subjected to what was termed "The Rite To Remain Silent." That's R-I-T-E, as in ritual. And I was subjected to an occult ritual. Occultism is of course a reversal of the Catholic Mass, and this was in keeping with that "reverse psychology" that my father learned. This was in keeping with the language of the subconscious, and this was in keeping with the incomprehensible.

At that time, VanderJagt came in and joined Father Don in exposing me to a blood trauma that was so horrific to me that it just blew my mind. When this happened, they used the hypnotic language, the language of the subconscious, to manipulate my subconscious in such a way that I lost control of my own switching processes at that time.

In other words, that compartmentalization that I was talking about, like where I had that compartment that would deal with my father's sexual abuse, as needed. I no longer had the ability to switch into that compartment that dealt with his abuse. I completely lost that ability with the "Rite To Remain Silent." Instead, they placed a series of hypnotic codes, keys and triggers in place of my natural switching mechanism, so that they could decide when, where and how that particular compartment of my brain could be accessed. That way, when I was programmed later on with specific government messages, and with specific perversion that I was forced to carry out, that they would decide when and how it would be accessed, by using those codes, keys and triggers to access that part of my brain.

After this "Rite to Remain Silent," I no longer heard voices in my head, which really was my own voice, because I used to make decisions by pulling from different compartments and perspectives of my brain, and trying to forumulate a decision by arguing back and forth to make the decision. After the "Rite to Remain Silent," it was silent. All I heard from then on were the voices of my abusers telling me exactly what it was I was supposed to do. I had no ability to express any free will at all after that, and I certainly would not have participated in any of these events that I was forced to participate in of my own free will.

After this "Rite to Remain Silent," I was exposed to and dedicated to who would become my owner in the MKUltra project, U.S. Senator Robert C. Byrd. Senator Byrd had been in office as long as I had been alive. He's still in office today. He's head of our Senate Appropriations Committee. He's holding our country's purse strings, and his agenda is for New World Order control, and has nothing to do with the constitutional values and freedoms that we've enjoyed in this country.

As my owner, Senator Byrd would decide where I would be taken, for what purposes, and how I would be programmed. He decided which various military and NASA installations I would be taken to for sophisticated mind control programming, and later on, throughout the Reagan/Bush administration, it was Senator Byrd who decided what criminal covert operations I would be forced to participate in.

Senator Byrd was extremely brutal in his perversions, which further compartmentalized my memory of the horrors that I was experiencing and being subjected to.
One of the first things that Senator Byrd ordered was that I be sent to Muskegon Catholic Central High School. At Muskegon Catholic Central, the groundwork for the Outcome Based Education was already in full swing. They were testing the effects of trauma on the human mind, because it was my understanding, from everything that I heard and experienced, that the Catholics had long since learned the effects of trauma on the human mind, through such things as the Spanish Inquisition. They have been gathering information for centuries. And they were taking that knowledge, that certain criminal faction within the church that needs to be exposed and taken out of the Catholic Church. They had gathered up information and combined it with the information that the CIA had gathered through the Hitler/Himmler genetic mind control research. Together, it was very powerful mind control information. It was extremely effective.

At Catholic Central, I was subjected to occult rituals during school hours, as were many others who attended Catholic Central. As a result, I was photographically recording everything that I learned in school. I got straight A's in school. I was doing excellent, but yet I wasn't comprehending anything. I didn't know how to use the different knowledge I was gaining. But, nevertheless, my brain was being packed in full of knowledge because of the trauma that I was enduring.

It was while I was in Catholic Central that Gerald Ford went into the office of President. This furthered what I had been conditioned to believe: that I had no place to run and no place to hide. Of course, since then, since I've been deprogrammed, I know I do have a place to run, and it's right at them. And I'm not the one with anything to hide. They're the ones who are hiding their secrets under this cloak of so-called "national security." But, nevertheless, that then was absolutely devastating to me because I sensed, I really couldn't think or rationalize, but yet I sensed that the whole world condoned child abuse, that the whole world was somehow involved in this, and that I'd long since lost my hope that there was a place in the world where good people even existed.

I truly felt that there was no place to turn to or run for help. Who was I to run to? My parents? The church? My school? Local politicians? Now I knew I couldn't even turn to the President of the United States. I felt totally trapped in mind control, which is exactly what they want, because the more helpless I felt, the more control that they had.

In 1977, Senator Byrd ordered that I be transferred to Nashville, Tennessee. In Nashville, Tennessee, mind control was in full swing. The CIA operations that were being to run through the country music industry. Drugs were being distributed throughout the country, particularly cocaine. And the proceeds were going into the CIA's "black budget." This was funding New World Order control. Even now I wonder at how we could have any kind of a national debt, when I know that all the money that was being generated in this country was being used to fund these New World Order controls. If we had access to the money that was being used against us, we wouldn't have any national debt.

Yet the country music industry was very much a part of the CIA's criminal covert operations at that time, and Senator Byrd had strong connections into Nashville Tennessee because he fancied himself an entertainer of sorts. He fancied himself a fiddler. Even though he was from West Virginia, he was a Nashville (unintelligible) that he'd fiddle on the Grand Old Opry. On the occasions that I was sent to Nashville, Senator Byrd was fiddling on the Opry.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sm4csi/nwo...brien- part2.htm


Robert Byrd-Terrorist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=5clp1pjj_t8

Stand up and be counted recruitment video {Senator Byrd recruitment video???]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...related& search=


Troy in West Virginia

Turnpike Chevrolet
4125 1st Ave
Nitro, West Virginia, 25143
Phone: 3047558301, Fax: 3047557624


Robert Byrd Campaign Ad - Voluntary Prayer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...HuNfefu8pI& NR=1

Robert C. Byrd Campaign Ad -"True"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...related& search=

Ed visits with Senator Byrd to explain that people are dying all over WV due to his lack of controlling big corps fucking over the American people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...related& search=

Big Daddy a.k.a Robert Byrd-Byrd thinks it is so funny that such an old man is around to "declare respect" all over the halls of congress, yet he misses the point that he is unable to help get our kids home from Iraq because he is looked at as either senile, racist, hipocritical, or just plain evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...related& search=


Senator Robert Byrd says "white niggers" on TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h?v=0FIBJt- c2o0
Look at the baby Tony Snow, boy the White House ages a neocon.

Sen. Robert Byrd sleeping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...related& search=


Senate President Pro Tempore Robert Byrd is old and shaky, but he's still got the fire in his belly when he wants to call it up. That was on full display Thursday afternoon when this business of dog fighting drove the longest serving Senator to the Senate floor for a speech the likes of which other, younger senators might have liked to summon during the Iraq War debate this week.

He declared that he has seen one execution in his life -- a man put to death in the electric chair. "Its not a beautiful thing," he said. "I could say I could witness another one if it involves (long pause) this cruel, sadistic, cannibalistic, business of training these vulnerable creatures to kill."

Byrd outlines what happens in a dog fight, punctuating his speech with shouts of "SHAME! SHAME!" How inhuman! How dastardly!"

"God created the dog to be man's companion," Byrd cried.

"Two dogs are placed in a pit. placed in a pit. get that. and turned loose against each other. The fight can go on for hours," he declared. The fight can go on for hours. hear me? (whole body shaking). The fight can go on for hours!"

"Who are the real animals? Who are the real animals? The creatures inside the ring? Or the creatures outside the ring?"

"Barbaric. Barbaric! May god help those poor souls. Hear me."

Talking about why he loves dogs, Byrd said, "The mere petting of these social creatures can lower the blood pressure of humans."

Byrd said he is proud that people perpetrating dogfights "will have to answer to our judicial system. And may god help their souls."

Byrd has given impassioned homily's on Man's Best Friend before. In April of this year, he spent his time during a Senate hearing on the dog food recall talking about his Shih Tzu, Trouble, named by his late beloved wife Erma, who Byrd says said "here comes trouble" the first time she saw the dog coming.

Byrd calls the dog, which sleeps on his bed, Baby.


Choice comments on Byrd:
kosei89 (3 hours ago)
dogfighting is bad but more importantly who the fuck is this dude and how is he not in a retirement home.

dvangild (5 hours ago)
what a fruit? Has this guy been sleeping for that past 34 years? If he is so outraged by little puppies turning into mean animals, then why isn't he outraged by 20 million+ little babies getting torn apart? I tell you why because he's an insane liberal.

ESCOXTC (6 minutes ago)
LOL! Fuck this old man. He acts like that's the worst going on out there.

viewfinderbob (16 minutes ago)
I have respect for my elders, however, I'm making an exception in this case. This 'wacko Democrat' (pardon my redundancy) needs to be in a rocking chair on a porch in West Virginia. On second thought, he's zoned-out about as much as Hillary, Edwards and Hussein Obama. Why is Byrd even receiving a paycheck?

vuttondon (20 minutes ago)
Madame president, what a fucking idiot

thastankanator (1 hour ago)
I think he must have been in the back room smoking a blunt with Clinton and Obama or something.


HOLY SHIT...WATCH THIS!!!!

Dogfight Part I: Michael Vick vs. Senator Robert Byrd
10 min - Jul 19, 2007 - (2 ratings)
the dog coming. Byrd calls the dog, which sleeps on his bed, Baby....Robert Byrd Michael Vick Senate Floor Dogfighting dog fighting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h? v=qT3zrs4xR8M
Watch video here - Related videos

Dogfight Part II: Michael Vick vs. Senator Robert Byrd
10 min - Jul 19, 2007
the dog coming. Byrd calls the dog, which sleeps on his bed, Baby....Robert Byrd Michael Vick Senate Floor Dogfighting dog fighting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h? v=mX9HRMDvZ_0
Watch video here - Related videos

Dogfight Part III: Michael Vick vs. Senator Robert Byrd
5 min - Jul 19, 2007 - (1 rating)
the dog coming. Byrd calls the dog, which sleeps on his bed, Baby....Robert Byrd Michael Vick Senate Floor Dogfighting dog fighting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A...h?v=ACotE_dgt- k

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I would like to remind everyone that Seantor Robert Byrd is an ex-KKK peodophile that like to rape little children and convince them that he is an alien from another planet that controls all of their thoughts and dreams.

I cannot stop thinking about the eddy of hypocricy every time I hear him say "barbaric."

Well Senator Byrd, I guess you would propose an old fashion lynching of the barbarian, huh?????

Should be easy to get an audience sine MSNBVC/CNN/FOX are running non-stop dogfighting videos that is recruiting more interest in this "sport" while also showing black teens ppunching old people and steeling their stuff.

WHAT ABOUT THE VIDEOS OF THE WHITE TEENS KILLING BLACK HOMELESS PEOPLE???????

Hey Robert Byrd, is this really the worst thing in the world????

The Iraq rapes of 4 year olds and quartering of insurgents is not more barbaric????


Guerilla Warfare is by far the winner in the long run.
Hit and run. One shot addicts and demolition specialists.
Civilian voluteers in mass, with the capacity to interfere with and confuse security forces during staging and mission completion.
No command bunker to be utilized, movement is essential. Weapons cashes to be moved intermitently in divided quantities.
One time cell phone usage and diposal.
Computer techs on line 24 hours, call signs buried daily.
Lines of communication, for mission control, human contact only.
Safe house and area scouts, seperate contact, 2 per state.
Primary targets will be securitys defensive positions. Infiltration points, personell contact area workers, etc. Small teams, 2 contacters 4 spotters. Seperate and independent, aknowledged by code names only.
A guy told me this stuff a long time ago,about 37 years back. he lived in a room over a bar that he owned in Saigon a few months before the final days. He was a intersting man, but very depressed, he finaly killed himslef after two attempts. Now why the hell have I though about this after all of these years?
Im sorry if i confused you folks, sometimes i Spin off, agent orange, or DSPS, who knows, maby Im just getting old, I was warned about premature senility.


July 20, 2007
We're From the Government, and We're Here to Help
Posted by Mike Tennant at July 20, 2007 08:04 AM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/...ves/ 014209.html
According to the Washington Post:
The Federal Emergency Management Agency since early 2006 has suppressed warnings from its own field workers about health problems experienced by hurricane victims living in government-provided trailers with levels of a toxic chemical 75 times the recommended maximum for U.S. workers, congressional lawmakers said yesterday.

A trail of e-mails obtained by investigators shows that the agency's lawyers rejected a proposal for systematic testing of the levels of potentially cancer-causing formaldehyde gas in the trailers, out of concern that the agency would be legally liable for any hazards or health problems. As many as 120,000 families displaced by hurricanes Katrina and Rita lived in the suspect trailers, and hundreds have complained of ill effects.

Yep, they really care about you in Washington.

You do have to feel sorry for a guy who's lost his religion, though: "'We have lost a great deal through our dealings with FEMA,' said Paul Stewart, a former Army officer living in a trailer with his wife in Mississippi, 'not the least of which is our faith in government.'" The problem, of course, was that he ever had faith in government in the first place.


Ron Paul most popular @GoogleTalk ever
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/...ves/ 014171.html
Ron Paul's GoogleTalk video is that it has only been on the net for TWO DAYS. Ron's video currently has 48,266 views, a number that will certainly be outdated by the time I post it. The next closest video is Hillary with less than 30,000 after having been on the web for 4 months.


Vista is a giant step backward for your freedoms
http://badvista.fsf.org/what-s-w...t-windows- vista
Windows Vista includes an array of "features" that you don't want. These features will make your computer less reliable and less secure. They'll make your computer less stable and run slower. They will cause technical support problems. They may even require you to upgrade some of your peripheral hardware and existing software. They're DRM.


Bush Administration Claims Broader Privilege Scope
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
Bush administration officials unveiled a bold new assertion of executive authority yesterday in the dispute over the firing of nine U.S. attorneys, saying that the Justice Department will never be allowed to pursue contempt charges initiated by Congress against White House officials once the president has invoked executive privilege.


Disguise yourself as Googlebot to browse Paysites
http://www.secinfinity.com/disgu...se- paysites.htm
The parameter we have to change is called the User Agent. The user agent defines the browser and version that you use. For example it would show Internet Explorer as your browser if you are using this one.


NY Press and John DeSio want to kill more Americans by dissuading rational investigations into 9/11

Laughing in the face of 9/11 conspiracy theorists
http://nypress.com/20/29/news&co...s/ JohnDeSio.cfm
Despite multiple debunkings of the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, from both the left and the right, the movement continues to roll on. Popular Mechanics published a huge report examining the technical claims of the conspiracy theorists, but “truthers” simply brushed off the magazine as government agents and part of the conspiracy.


Get Paid to Take Surveys
http://getpaidsurveyreviews.word...d-take-surveys/
Get paid to take surveys online
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Surveys and polls are a clear indicator of the voice of the nation...

YEAH RIGHT!


College Professor Says Textbooks Are Too Expensive, Quits Using them
http://consumerist.com/consumer/...them- 280753.php
Instead of textbooks, Hammond has been assigning journal articles and other reading materials that his students can check out from the library or download from the internet, a practice which, if every one of their professors did it, would save students (on average) $900 a year.


Rice: I'm in charge of Middle East peace not Blair
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ pages...in_page_id=1770
She said Mr Blair should instead stick to his narrow remit of mending the Palestinian economy and political system, a role merely complementary to her job as leading peacemaker to the region.


America plans new crackdown on European businesses trading in Iran
http:// business.timesonline.co.u...icle2106530.ece
British businesses with investments in Iran face punitive sanctions from American authorities under proposed legislation expected to be approved by Congress. The Bill is causing deep concern among diplomats in Washington who have sent officials to Capitol Hill warning about the possible consequences of igniting a transatlantic trade dispute.
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Wow, what about Halliburton that sells nuke parts to Iran, any crackdown on them?


FOX poll: In no scenario does the GOP candidate beat the Democrat
http://www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2...,289970,00.html
In seven different head-to-head matchups, the poll shows the Democratic candidate tops the Republican. While this had been the case when Clinton was tested against Romney and Thompson, this is the first time she has the advantage over Giuliani.
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More proof that Fox loves Hillary!


World's first luxury underwater hotel planned for Dubai
http://igottarant.com/showthread...ad.php? p=210205
Shcduled to open in late 2007, Hydropolis is the world's first luxury underwater hotel. It will include three elements: the land station, where guests will be welcomed, the connecting tunnel, which will transport people by train to the main area of the hotel, and the 220 suites within the submarine leisure complex.
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Wow, Halliburton's new home country has money to build underwater hotels...AWESOME

Cheney's favorite place to play "the world's most dangerous game"

Truly nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.


You have a narrow and myopic idea of "girls" versus "boys". Every behavior you detailed for boys, fit me as a girl. I boasted about injuries, I played as hard as the boys - with the boys. I shot guns, I got in fights. I had to LEARN how to be a girl. But to this day, I still can't stand regular girl banter. To this day, most of my friends are guys, and I am now 39. I know I am also not alone, as I have met quite a few women such as myself. Both of my daughters are just like me. And you might be thinking I'm gay - but I've never had a gay bone in my body. I love men so much so that I emulated them when I was growing up. On the other side of the coin, I've also known many, many boys (who are not gay) who ran to their mommies, acted and talked more like girls. The subject is not as clear-cut as you portray. Feminism is based on equality. I'm no rabid feminist - I think extremists of any rank need to take a course in moderation and temperance, but I do enjoy the more level playing field my generation has with regard to job opportunities, wages, etc. The simple fact is the feminist movement was positive for women as a whole and men had to adjust to the changes, which is why you have your jock strap in a wad. Get over it. Oh - and take a writing course would you, because much of your writing is incoherent for such a straight-talking man.


Underground lake that scientists hoped can help end Darfur War is DRIED !
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/afric...ica/ 6908224.stm
Alain Gachet, who used satellite images and radar in his research, said the area received too little rain and had the wrong rock types for water storage.
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Guess Bush's "crazy" war buddies are happy


Bizarro 'Libertarianism'
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/ in...articleid=11306
Fake libertarian legal scholar crawls out of the woodwork to attack Ron Paul's antiwar stance. Author Justin Raimondo skewers and barbecues Randy Barnett's notion that neocon interventionism is "libertarian".


The Free and Open Source PC
http://mashable.com/2007/07/20/f...open-source-pc/
The price of hardware continues to drop, with WalMart now offering a PC for $299 that includes Vista Home Basic and Open Office. With the combination of open source and commercial (but free) web-based software, the price of computing has never been lower. Here is a look at some of our favorite software available for the reasonable price of $0.


TO ALL WHO THINK THE PRESIDENT CAN CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION
http://bensguide.gpo.gov/9-12/do...tion/ amend.html


Trapped, Imaged Single Atoms May Enable Powerful Quantum Computing
http://www.physorg.com/ news10414...s104144531.html
Quantum computers have the potential to vastly out-perform present-day “classical” computers – if scientists can identify and manipulate promising quantum bits, or “qubits,” the basic information-storing units of a quantum computer.


White House preparing to stage new September 11
http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/a.../article/ 135541
WASHINGTON, July 20 - A former Reagan official has issued a public warning that the Bush administration is preparing to orchestrate a staged terrorist attack in the United States, transform the country into a dictatorship and launch a war with Iran within a year. "The American people don't really understand the danger that they face".
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Another sane blogger's comments:
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This is not so surprising.
WE are back to where we were in September 2001 with yet another imploding asset bubble, the housing bubble, and the US thinking that another 'guns and butter' war would revive the economy. That is NOT going to happen. The staged inside job project (PNAC for a new 'Perle", Cheney Energy Task Force ) on 9-11 served many purposes. The two immediate ones were to:

(1) artificially boost nationalism (which has since evaporated) to promote the phony war on terror and
(2) the second was to prop the collasped economy with government deficit (debt) spending as consumption and business investment declined and the US having to import everything.

In addition, to the staged 9-11 attacks, the US also tried several other economic remedies such as massive liquidity (evil jew Greenscam printing up worthless dollars), a tax cut for the rich (who saved their cuts rather than spend forcing the govt to finance the cuts and the interest with even more debt with no boost in aggregate demand), 40-year low interest rates that produce the now collapsing housing asset bubble and the US doesn't have another asset bubble to replace it. The Social Security Privatization schemes was supposed to be housing asset bubble replacement until the American public wised up knowing that will lose their savings. and massive government (debt) spending (on a useless military, phony war on terror) propping up the collapsed economy. Seventy percent of the growth in GDP is now from government deficit spending. All of these measures failed to reverse the US econominc decline as consumers, businesses and the government itself can no longer absorb any more debt.

The US is now desperate, another staged attack will do no good. None of the economy policies can be retried since they all failed, there is no new asset bubble to blow up and the US military has been defeated in Iraq. The US has seen that staged attacks evaporate rather quickly and Americans as functionally illiterate as they are, won't be fooled a second time. Americans like Roberts are now looking for a staged attack. Bernake is now in a bind. He can't lower interest rates because the housing bubble and the dollar have both collapsed. And he desperately needs to raise interest rates to prevent investors from abandoning the dollar and fleeing to the euro but there is the problem of all those interest only loans having to be reset.

As the financial melt down is occuring with Bear Stearns/hedge fund leading the way, the US is attempting to hide this problem with even more of the silly Ben-laden tapes in which old footage is spliced together in a rather tacky scare campaign.

There is a direct correlation between the financial melt down and the terror warnings in the US, as the melt down becomes more unbearable, we get more terror warnings as a distraction.

The US military has been defeated in both Iraq and Afghanistan and the US doesn't have the resources financial or human resources for another prolonged war with Iran.

The Iraq war has already been economically self-defeating with higher oil prices causing the bankruptcy for GM, Ford and their suppliers.

Since both GM and Ford were earning most of their income from loans, mortgages and financial services, the housing bubble implosion has been more detrimental than is being reported.

Ford and GM should be considered banking entitities, not car manufacturing companies.

The US can't invade Iran, the same nationalism that defeated the US in Korea, Vietnam and Iraq is the same nationalism that will defeat the US in Iran.

The US created it own destruction by printing up too much worthless dollars, wasting its dwindling resources on too many war, having to borrrow to give foreign aid and too many useless military bases around the globe.

There isn't going to be a '1000-year benevolent empire' like the ignorant jews wanted.

The US empire is long over.


RE: Captain Sherlock Solves 9-11
That is how they guided the planes into the buildings.
And more pieces of of the puzzle come togeather.


President Bush orders CIA to follow Geneva Conventions!
http://www.reuters.com/article/ p...029519720070720

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Uh sure, just like the order not to give a "code red" to santiago right before giving select members other orders minutes later.


Romney Campaign Made Fake Police Badges to Avoid Tolls, Strongarm Media
http://news.bostonherald.com/ pol...ticleid=1012402
In an apparent violation of the law, a controverisal aide to ex-Gov. Mitt Romney created phony law enforcement badges that he and other staffers used on the campaign trail to strong-arm reporters, avoid paying tolls and trick security guards into giving them immediate access to campaign venues, sources told the Herald.


FEMA lawyers nixed trailer tests for toxicity
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19854845/
WASHINGTON - The Federal Emergency Management Agency has suppressed warnings from its own Gulf coast field workers since the middle of 2006 about suspected health problems that may be linked to elevated levels of formaldehyde gas released in FEMA-provided trailers, lawmakers said today.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FASCISM ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congressman refused access to continuity of the government documents.
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/o...8910.xml& coll=7
As a member of the U.S. House on the Homeland Security Committee, DeFazio, D-Ore., is permitted to enter a secure "bubbleroom" in the Capitol and examine classified material. So he asked the White House to see the secret documents. On Wednesday, DeFazio got his answer: DENIED.

"I just can't believe they're going to deny a member of Congress the right of reviewing how they plan to conduct the government of the United States after a significant terrorist attack," DeFazio says.

Homeland Security Committee staffers told his office that the White House initially approved his request, but it was later quashed. DeFazio doesn't know who did it or why.

"We're talking about the continuity of the government of the United States of America," DeFazio says. "I would think that would be relevant to any member of Congress, let alone a member of the Homeland Security Committee."

Bush administration spokesman Trey Bohn declined to say why DeFazio was denied access: "We do not comment through the press on the process that this access entails. It is important to keep in mind that much of the information related to the continuity of government is highly sensitive."

Norm Ornstein, a legal scholar who studies government continuity at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, said he "cannot think of one good reason" to deny access to a member of Congress who serves on the Homeland Security Committee.

"I find it inexplicable and probably reflective of the usual, knee-jerk overextension of executive power that we see from this White House," Ornstein said.

This is the first time DeFazio has been denied access to documents. DeFazio has asked Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., to help him access the documents.

"Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio said.
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Remember to shave your head and take out all gold teeth, the trains are coming


FEMA Spends $12.5 Mil to Store Katrina Ice for 2 Years.
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/hur...9990017? cid=222
Now finally they figured that ice stored for so long may not be good for human consumption any more. FEMA, reportedly will pay a company another $3Mil to Melt The Ice.


Proof that Social Media is Affecting Today's Journalism
http://www.techipedia.com/2007/0...cts-journalism/
Are social media sites like Digg affecting today's journalism and how we all get our news? You bet it does! Here's proof that social media is having a big effect on journalism.


MSNBC perfectly illustrates the president's face during his colonoscopy
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nan...ntel/860560520/
Another tragic example of the dangers of automatic ad placement.


Google May Bid In FCC Auction If Condition Added
http://www.javno.com/en/economy/...ak.php? id=63850
Google Inc said on Friday it would take part in a major auction of wireless spectrum airwaves, meeting a minimum required bid of $4.6 billion, if U.S. regulators added a key condition that Google said would promote an open wireless market.


Kubby Endorses Ron Paul
http://ronpaulquest.com/blog/?p=87
I have never heard of a Presidential candidate endorsing another candidate and remaining in the race. Here is a press release from Steve Kubby, Libertarian for President: “ALL TOGETHER NOW” … LIBERTARIAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ENDORSES PAUL Fort Bragg, CA — Citing overwhelming support from his own party’s members and lackluster response to...


Canadian Police beats Chilean soccer team. Literally.
http://tsn.ca/soccer/news_story/...214113& hubname=
A brawl between an irate Chilean soccer team and Toronto police that left players bloodied and sporting officials stunned has swelled into an international incident between Canada and Chile, which plans to make a formal complaint over "unjustified aggression" by police officers.


UK corporate increases usage of social media
http://www.bzztube.com/2007/07/2...f-social-media/
UK organisations have significantly increased their investment in interactive media over the last year. In last year ’s survey 70% said blogging was not a priority and only 4% had a company blog but this year 44% said they had done a podcast in the past year, 41% have created a company blog and 15% had posted a video on YouTube.


Ron Paul grills Bernanke on the irresponsibility of the Federal Reserve
http://igottarant.com/showthread...ad.php? p=214033
Video of why Ron Paul is the only person in DC who "gets" how the Federal Reserve robs us all of our wealth.


Defense source warns of threat to states hosting missile shield
http://en.rian.ru/russia/2007071...9/ 69266916.html
A source in Russia's Defense Ministry warned Thursday that countries that host missile defense systems are not improving their own security, but are putting themselves and their neighbours at risk.


Women Stuffs Her Dead Husband Into a Suitcase
http://www.nj.com/news/ index.ssf...tencing_in.html
"The depravity of this murder simply shocks the conscience of this courtroom," said the judge, calling the crime especially "heinous" and "cruel." "The nature and the complexity and the scope of this criminal episode involved many, many overt actions committed over a three-week period in four states.
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Henry potrait of a serial killer, illuminati killer and the only death pardon by governor bush loved the suitcase routine....

any illuminati connections on this crazy bitch?


Ron Paul’s Supporters Flocking to Change their Party
http://libertyman.wordpress.com/...ge-their-party/
Nice video featuring Rachel in North Carolina bringing in lines of voters all changing their party affiliation to Republican so they can vote for Paul in the North Carolina Republican Primary. Republicans, Democrats, and Libertarians alike all find their pick for the Republican Presidential Nominee in 2008 to be Texas Congressman Ronald E. Paul.


Internet via Power Lines set to Launch; Hope It's Faster than Current US *!
http://www.physorg.com/ news10415...s104156604.html
"A plan to offer consumers Internet access through their home's power lines may soon come to fruition for residents of Grand Ledge, Mich." Plus a whole new set of problems for really stupid end-users, I could see more than a few losers getting shocked with the home install kits!


House Republican takes aim at CIA 'secret prison' whistleblowers
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ho...t_CIA_0720.html
The top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee pressed Friday for an investigation of Central Intelligence Agency officers who allegedly supplied information to a European probe of the US intelligence community's system of 'black sites.'


Suspect Missing in Evolution Death-Threat Case
http://www.wired.com/science/ dis...olorado_threats
An anti-evolutionary Christian extremist suspected of sending threatening letters to biology professors at the University of Colorado has gone on the lam, according to a staff member familiar with a police investigation into the matter.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...00707Course.htm

George Bushs presidency proves a dismal failure. What if he stopped doing what hes doing and served the best interests of America for the next 18 months? What actions might he take to pull his presidency out of the toilet?

18 months?! hell, he could do it in 18 minutes if he took lessons from that CHO kid at V-tech!


Why the heck does New York have steam pipes, anyway?
http://blog.sciam.com/index.php? ...k_have_steam_pi
Once I'd gotten past the shock of the tragedy itself, I began to wonder, why is there all this steam pouring out of the streets of New York City 24/7, anyway?
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Oh yeah and the pipes can be used to transmit false flag terror packages to such building that the pipes run to like the UN and the empire state building...thanks CNN for that bit of info!


sorry -- ended up duplicating one of my postings. I meant to give you guys this instead:
(Video -- Simpsons -- 5 min; 28 sec)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=83vL7...related& search=


The Conqureror: The John Wayne movie that gave 91 people cancer
http://books.google.com/books? id...DvoXk#PPA412,M1
It's hard to believe, but 41% of "The Conqureror's" crew later came down with cancer (including Wayne, who got it twice). The common factor? The movie was shot in Utah's Escalante Desert, where 11 atomic bombs had been tested, including two particularly dirty ones. As many people have noted, it was a large price to pay for such a bad movie.


Why the heck does New York have steam pipes, anyway?
http://blog.sciam.com/index.php? ...k_have_steam_pi
Once I'd gotten past the shock of the tragedy itself, I began to wonder, why is there all this steam pouring out of the streets of New York City 24/7, anyway?
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Another sane blogger????

I heard 18,000 customers use steam in NYC.

Think about that for a minute... miles of asbestos covered pipes to serve less than .01% of the population which has led to at least 2 explosions and at least 4 deaths in the past 10 years, wtf????

Could it be the unwillingness of the city to deal with the asbestos problem like silverstein was to the twin towers.

could the steam pipes be ripe for using as a false flag so that the city would not have to deal with the cleanup like silverstein blew up the towers so he did not have to deal with the asbestos?

I am sure the asbestos companies like monsanto do not condone killing of innocent americans to avoid oversight into how destructive and cancer inciting their wide range of products actually are...

http://mindprod.com/politics/asb...s/ asbestos.html


http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti...7/ 200707car.htm

feds grab browns car

THEY have already taken the property, structure, equipment that elaine used to make a living, THEY have already threatened raids and bodily harm, THEY have just taken a car now too. this is all probably worth a lot more than the initial claim against the browns, where THEY refuse to "show them the law" (because they cant!) now THEY add injury to insult with additional fines for "failure to pay" "not cooperating" (like not showing them the law IS cooperating?) "and dont forget the fines for "not bending over without lubricants"
I'm disgusted with these mafioso tactics, hitmen, collection enforcers.


Yes sir, this guy gets it:
http://prisonplanet.com/ articles...onservative.htm

I too am a registered Republican, voted Republican many times (even voted for GWB first time around) BUT one morning I woke to the truth.

My waking was a bit untimely considering, I had 26-years of active duty military conditioning to deal with. Been retired for 17 years now but don't think that made it any the easier -- it didn't, it hasn't.

My family pretty much understands many things now that we all never considered until about a year ago -- thanks to my rants they understand a hell of a lot. But they don't seem to worry much about the happenings, they just go with the flow. I suppose there's not too awfully much any one of us can do other than help spread the word and be aware of who it is we vote for in the future.

Vote Ron Paul 2008 // if and when he is ever made available to us as a bonafide choice. My immediate concern is we don't find ourself waking one morning to an event equal to or surpassing 9/11 just so the incumbent feels it necessary to stay on as President (dictator) of the then threatened and more so 'weakened' United States of America. What was it he said earlier -- I'm a wartime President. He seems to enjoy the concept of that way too much. It has me greatly worried, folks.

In the meantime, from me to you -- 9/11 was an inside job. No doubt about it. I've read the books, I've watched the videos, I've read the articles -- I've opened my eyes (and my mind) and see things clearly, now, finally. I'm worried silly about the obstacle that is yet to be overcome if we are ever to regain control of our country.

Impeach Cheney; impeach Bush -- ASAP.
http://impeachcheney.org/


FBI ducks questions about its remotely installed spyware
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3...-9747666- 7.html
There are plenty of unanswered questions about the FBI spyware that, as we reported earlier this week, can be delivered over the Internet and implanted in a suspect's computer remotely. Many of the questions hearken back to the old debate over the FBI's Carnivore wiretapping system, which technical luminaries Steve Bellovin, Matt Blaze...


Video: Bernanke: Ron Paul Is Absolutely Right
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1..._1184906133& p=1
Ron Paul's testimony to U.S. House Financial Services Committee and Fed Chair Ben Bernanke's response July 18, 2007.


http://infowars.net/articles/ jul...0707Mercury.htm
Bush To Veto Ban On Mercury In Vaccines
Clear links to neurological disorders ignored, removed from animal vaccines but fine for babies

only becuase bush hates the idea of someone being smarter or less addled than he himself is.


Mania: The link between psychiatric drugs, suicide, violence & mass murder
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56536
Psychiatric evaluation of mass murderers finds the link between commonly prescribed anti-depressants and mass murder.


Hannity experiences blowback live on the radio inflicted by smart caller.
http://thespinfactor.com/thetrut...paul-supporter/
Statistics from the FEC shock Sean Hannity when he is tricked into liking Ron Paul by a very smart caller.


http://prisonplanet.com/ articles...onservative.htm

Yes sir, this guy's gets it.

I too am a registered Republican, voted Republican many times (even voted for GWB first time around) BUT one morning I woke to the truth.

My waking was a bit untimely considering, I had 26-years of active duty military conditioning to deal with. Been retired for 17 years now but don't think that made it any the easier -- it didn't, it hasn't.

My family pretty much understands many things now that we all never considered until about a year ago -- thanks to my rants they understand a hell of a lot. But they don't seem to worry much about the happenings, they just go with the flow. I suppose there's not too awfully much any one of us can do other than help spread the word and be aware of who it is we vote for in the future.

Vote Ron Paul 2008 // if and when he is ever made available to us as a bonafide choice. My immediate concern is we don't find ourself waking one morning to an event equal to or surpassing 9/11 just so the incumbent feels it necessary to stay on as President (dictator) of the then threatened and more so 'weakened' United States of America. What was it he said earlier -- I'm a wartime President. He also seemed to enjoy the concept of that. It has me greatly worried, folks.

In the meantime, from me to you -- 9/11 was an inside job. No doubt about it. I've read the books, I've watched the videos, I've read the articles -- I've opened my eyes (and my mind) and see things clearly, now, finally. I'm worried silly about the obstacle that is yet to be overcome if we are ever to regain control of our country.

Impeach Cheney; impeach Bush -- ASAP.
http://impeachcheney.org/


My $.02


FBI taps remote spyware to trace bomb threat
http://securityblog.itproportal....rtal.com/? p=979
I was impressed to learn that the FBI has used a remotely installed piece of spyware to track down the person responsible for emailing a series of bomb threats to a Washington High School.


NY Times - Ron Paul full article
http://dissentradio.com/eg/rp-nyt.html
What started as a somewhat "fair" article turns into a half-assed brush off. It seems the article's author Chris Caldwell shares the same psychic ability as ABCs George Stephanopoulos.They both sign off at the end of their pieces with the same personally smearing predictions. They should just tell us WHO will win and save us the trouble of voting


Ron Paul gets international attention...
http://www.economist.com/world/ n..._id=9514241#top
The Economist: Ron Paul, a libertarian Republican congressman from Texas, likes to say what he thinks. And among the things he thinks is that the census is a violation of privacy. He has opted out of the congressional pension programme. He claims never to have voted for a tax increase, or for an unbalanced budget, or for a congressional pay rise.


Join the Marines and get a free pass to kill innocent Iraqi civilians
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...& type=printable
Can someone tell me again how this was different under Saddam's regime?


Here is a fine book written by one of the would be scapegoats...

Gilman/Katz-Antisemtism in of Time OF Crisis.
http://www.buchfreund.de/v2-book...book- 33844.html

How prophetic....


Well Michael Panchet gets a few hits:

Technicians TO NUKE NY City in August? *LINK*Michael Panchet. His specialty is reconnaissance and logistics. His ... Michael PANCHET Height: 5 10" Weight: 145 pounds Eyes: Brown ...
http://www.bbsradio.com/cgi-bin/...rames/read/ 1724 - 73k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

BreakForNews.com Forum - Warning Imminent Attack on NY - Iran a ...Michael PANCHET Height: 5 10" Weight: 145 pounds Eyes: Brown ... Doing an Internet-wide Google for Michael-Panchet yields only two pages at www. ...
http:// breakfornews.proboards44....read=1124185761 - 56k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

Conspiracy Central :: View topic - Never seen anything like this ...Michael PANCHET Height: 5 10" Weight: 145 pounds Eyes: Brown Hair: Dark brown, straight, fashionably cropped Features: Roman nose, suntanned, ...
http://control-alt-delete.ca/v- w...5859e0f1664e779 - 70k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

THE TECHNICIANS (Page 1)The team currently working the hit in New York is headed up by a man called Michael Panchet. His specialty is reconnaissance and logistics. His no. ...
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/s....com/ s_s01.html - 14k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

ORBIT: BLASTS HEAVEN AND EARTH... Intelligence Leaks and Eschatology: An Exopolitical Perspective The Demonic Cabal by Norman D. Livergood A Nation in Peril Michael Panchet ...
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/ i...dexback171.html - 74k - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.cyberspaceorbit.com ]

The Next 911: Intel Agent Leaks Plans?Michael Panchet. His specialty is reconnaissance and logistics. His no. 2 is a guy called Don Riley. Both are elite ex-SAS operatives. ...
http://neverknwo.gnn.tv/blogs/ 82...ent_Leaks_Plans - 68k - Cached - Similar pages


2008 IS TOO LATE.

The truth movement is on a roll. things are looking good. RP is a hot number, and geting more press.
America is waking up.
Good News it is.
But, the necons know this, due to their prior atrocitys its safe to say they have plans upon plans as what to do, they are not about to loose the power they have gained,nor their fortunes.
The weight lies on the American people , our elected and illustrious Senate and Congress, our Fed. Units with integrity, and military higher ups.
And faith in God that we can bring these parrasiitic crimanals to justice and save this land.
Human life is sacred so is freedom.


hey look at the continued false flag terror predictions that are on the cached version of this youtube:
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=ca...us& client=opera
freeminder (1 hour ago)
Mossad false flag terror 7-22-7 Shmuel Harriman Yitzhak Frenkel Menahem Vitman Don Palder Ari Itzkovich Jay "Crow" Stimpson Michael Panchet Don Lineweaver Yocheved Gilman-Katz
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How many false flag terror predictions on various days are these people supposed to be responsible for.

Look up their names and find out for yourself:
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Like I said, these guys are getting clever....

post a shitload of predictions implicating one country/race....

wait for some shit to happen....


you got your scapegoat race/country


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h? v=B6pYW6ydFos

nice stuff ...

hey look at the continued false flag terror predictions that are on the cached version of this youtube:
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=ca...us& client=opera
freeminder (1 hour ago)
Mossad false flag terror 7-22-7 Shmuel Harriman Yitzhak Frenkel Menahem Vitman Don Palder Ari Itzkovich Jay "Crow" Stimpson Michael Panchet Don Lineweaver Yocheved Gilman-Katz
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How many false flag terror predictions on various days are these people supposed to be responsible for.

Look up their names and find out for yourself:

Shmuel Harriman [of the US-Nazi harrimans????]

Yitzhak Frenkel

Menahem Vitman

Don Palder

Ari Itzkovich

Jay "Crow" Stimpson

Michael Panchet

Don Lineweaver

Yocheved Gilman-Katz
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I am sure there is a lot of fun facts you can find with these names...


Blast from the past 2003:

So what is the CIA equivalent of Kidon Unit, and how many Kidon are trained by Nazi Youth?

ISRAEL ORDERS MOSSAD TO MURDER AMERICANS IN THE USA
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/...TML/ 001168.html
Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the 'war on
terror' that will include staging targeted killings [murders] in the
United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli
intelligence officials told United Press International [UPI].

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has forbidden the practice until
now, these sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Israeli statements were confirmed by more than a half dozen
former and currently serving U.S. foreign policy and intelligence
officials in interviews with United Press International.

But an official at the Israeli Embassy in Washington told UPI: "That
is rubbish. It is completely untrue. Israel and the United States
have such a close and co-operative intelligence relationship,
especially in the field of counter-terrorism, that the assertion is
ludicrous."

(Yeah, Right! The Mossad and CIA operate hand in hand. SATANIST peas in a pod! CIA AND MOSSAD worked TOGETHER on 9-11!)

With the appointment of Meir Dagan, the new Director of Israel's
Mossad secret intelligence service, Sharon is preparing "a huge
budget" increase for the spy agency as part of "a tougher stance in
fighting global jihad [or war against all evils]," one Israeli official said.

Since Sharon became Israeli Prime Minister, Tel Aviv has mainly
limited its practice of targeted killings [murders] to the West Bank
and Gaza because "no one wanted such operations on their territory,"
a former Israeli intelligence official said.

Another former Israeli government official said that under
Sharon, "diplomatic constraints have prevented the Mossad from
carrying out 'preventive operations' (targeted killings [murders]) on
the soil of friendly countries until now."

He said Sharon is "reversing that policy, even if it risks
complications to Israel's bilateral relations."

A former Israeli military intelligence source agreed: "What Sharon
wants is a much more extensive and tough approach to global
terrorism, and this includes greater operational maneuverability."

Does this mean assassinations on the soil of allies?

"It does," he said.


"WOO HOO what a ride!"
Oldman | 07.20.07 - 12:51 pm | #

with a smoke hangin' outa yer mouth and a pint a Crown in yer pocket.
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Ya gotta love this guy........


You have to have a video editing program to alter video.

Who posts bullshit here?

You do!
Alex Jones | 07.20.07 - 2:28 pm | #

Amuzed, get a job already. Why do you still hang out here?


HOLY CRAP...

... It appears that the explosion in NY city on Wednesday was actually an aborted false flag operation.

The government video is heavily Photoshopped... and someone posted details of the operation 4 days ahead of time... right date and time, too.

You've got to see this:
http://snipr.com/1oi63

And you can spread the word by Digging the story at:
http://digg.com/politics/ Problem...de_Job_Pcitures
Click_ Here: | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 2:20 pm | #
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Wow, these guys have gotten clever, haven't they...

another great story linked on the thread:
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/ loc..._201113005.html


HOLY CRAP...

... It appears that the explosion in NY city on Wednesday was actually an aborted false flag operation.

The government video is heavily Photoshopped... and someone posted details of the operation 4 days ahead of time... right date and time, too.

You've got to see this:
http://snipr.com/1oi63

And you can spread the word by Digging the story at:
http://digg.com/politics/ Problem...de_Job_Pcitures
Click_ Here: | Homepage |

Dumbass, you can't photshop a video. Photoshop is for still photography or images you create within it.

You have to have a video editing program to alter video.

Who posts bullshit here?

You do!


sane,
how do you get the smileys and italics in your posts?
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 07.20.07 - 2:05 pm | #

ancient chinese secret

actually it is pretty simple scripting code. I will put in spaces that you will need to remove

< i > = italic begin

< / i > = italic end

: ) =

for bold, just replace i with b


HOLY CRAP...

... It appears that the explosion in NY city on Wednesday was actually an aborted false flag operation.

The government video is heavily Photoshopped... and someone posted details of the operation 4 days ahead of time... right date and time, too.

You've got to see this:
http://snipr.com/1oi63

And you can spread the word by Digging the story at:
http://digg.com/politics/ Problem...de_Job_Pcitures


alex jones speaks the truth but is a tool still...
listen to the bill cooper show on him from 99 tryin to build hype for y2k.
today, he sounds the same.
Anonymous | 07.20.07 - 12:53 pm |

You are right. Alex Jones is a tool!
Ron in LA | 07.20.07 - 2:04 pm | #

you should 'ave heard yourself, you said tool, eh-hee eh heee-eee-hee!


not yet available in Iowa...
WHAT is WITH Iowa...


http://vids.myspace.com/ index.cf...ideoID=13482547

This is our President ?

Pressure of evil doing is making its way, this clip is worth a thousand words


sane,
how do you get the smileys and italics in your posts?


alex jones speaks the truth but is a tool still...
listen to the bill cooper show on him from 99 tryin to build hype for y2k.
today, he sounds the same.
Anonymous | 07.20.07 - 12:53 pm |

You are right. Alex Jones is a tool!


[wouldn't want to go to a club that would let me in as a member],
CRACK ME UP!ah-hahahahahahahahaha


Remember this motto to live by:

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, margarita in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
Oldman | 07.20.07 - 12:51 pm | #

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Yup. and like you I was lost in the blustering patriotic America, untill a stint in Nam. My bubble broke. But, the kids of this country need a chance, lets let them have it. If by oldman you mean your geting on in years, welcome to the club, then you know what I'm trying to say here, lets clean up this land for the young ones.


your way of thought can instantly tell when someone plagerizes your nic!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 07.20.07 - 1:56 pm | #

Sorry for pulling a groucho [wouldn't want to go to a club that would let me in as a member], but I wish that no one suffers from my "way of thought"



I'm sorry, sane. Maybe you and I and GAK can hook up.. you know, all three of us together?


Who gives a fuck what some bozo claiming to be me thinks?
Alex Jones | 07.20.07 - 1:55 pm | #

Say, "Alex Jones"You are fairly talented to be full time posting AND doing your live show RIGHT NOW!
HAHAHAHAHAHA,dum ass!

DEE-DEE-DEE!


Sane, Fear not my kindred spirit, we that have learned of you and your way of thought can instantly tell when someone plagerizes your nic!


Who gives a fuck what some bozo claiming to be me thinks?


You can tell Alex is seriously pissed about this prick!
so "Alex Jones" You need to find yourself another nic,
(Cartoon Network has thousands to choose from,
And since you are already a clown,the transision to cartoon isnt that great a chasm for ya!lol)

So, you are trying to convince us that you are the real A.J.???hummmmm, prove it.

wait,(hahahahahaha......................)


GAK is mine, do you hear!

Stay away Ron, you cock stealer!
sane | 07.20.07 - 1:52 pm | #
_________________________

Amuzed, are you angry with me?????


GAK is mine, do you hear!

Stay away Ron, you cock stealer!


Please leave, you dumbasses
Alex Jones | 07.20.07 - 1:40 pm | #

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I think the: "I see stupid people" nick is much better...what you say is still meaningless and, therefore, unworthy of further comment.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 1:44 pm | #
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I love it when Amuzed admits defeat by using the tried and true methods of deception to cause COINTELPRO outcomes:

divide
disrupt
recruit


The remaining good military men and woman will desert the Bush evil machine. They know it is wrong what is being done in Iraq and Afganistan, and there good natures will prevail on evil.

Peace to all peacefull humans
Gordan | 07.20.07 - 12:47 pm | #

Thanks Gordon.I beleive in the military, not in the MIC nor the politicians e ELitists. I detest seeing our armed forces being used the way that they are.
Yes, there are good men, honorable men,I look to the Brass to define this to the regime. I look to the leaders within, from full birds up to make a stand against these criminals. and so do the American people. These are the men of oaths, these are the men that have turned their back on the country, not the EM's and junior officers, i know that.It is a question of moral courage not of bravado.
Bring the boys home, this is where our military is needed, and the big dogs on high know that. I am so sick of this regime sucking our blood, their deceitfull lies and manipulations.
Military is needed in this country, for defense, yes.


Please leave, you dumbasses
Alex Jones | 07.20.07 - 1:40 pm | #

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I think the: "I see stupid people" nick is much better...what you say is still meaningless and, therefore, unworthy of further comment.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 07.20.07 - 1:44 pm | #

Alex is talking about this one bozo that is running around impersonating him.

Sees stupidpeople has to be looking in the mirror, eh Ron!!


Where is GAK? I haven't had man sex for a while.


France and l'affaire Dreyfus revisited
http://www.hindu.com/2006/06/23/ ...62301821000.htm
Vaiju Naravane
The 100th anniversary of the rehabilitation of Captain Alfred Dreyfus is an occasion for an analysis of past wrongs. This can be salutary at a time when France is in the process of re-examining its criminal justice system.





A HUNDRED years ago, on July 12, 1906, France's highest court, the Cour de Cassation, finally rehabilitated Captain Alfred Dreyfus, giving him back his honour, snatched on December 22, 1894, when he was falsely accused of high treason. The court thus closed one of the darkest chapters in French judicial history, setting right a wrong that has been described not as a "miscarriage of justice" but as "a judicial crime."

To commemorate the centenary of its own "rebirth" and rehabilitation as an institution of the Republic that guarantees justice to its citizens without fear or favour, the Cour de Cassation has organised a seminar entitled "Justice in the Dreyfus Affair." Open to the public, it brings together jurists, historians, military and constitutional experts in the very room where the Jewish officer was finally exonerated of all charges and reinstated.

At a time when France is in the process of re-examining its criminal justice system with the establishment of a special parliamentary commission to enquire into a high-profile paedophile trial that wrongly imprisoned and condemned 13 innocent persons — some were kept in preventive detention for over three years — because of the dogged determination of the examining magistrate and systemic failures within the judiciary, such an analysis of past wrongs can but be salutary.

Guy Cavinet, the Court's president, told The Hindu : "In the last