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hey is anyone here or is my 'puter just messing with my head? i posted the below post a long time ago,and it says there are 20 ppl in here, somebody please respond

S-0-S !!!!!!!!!
MAYDAY,MAYDAY


HEY!!! AND YES, I AM YELLING!!!

I CAN'T FIND THE COMMENT BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM OF P.P. STORIES ANYMORE!!!CAN ANYONE ELSE??

I THINK THEY ARE FILTERING ALREADY,THAT CRAP THE SENATE HAS PASSED LAST WEEK

WHERE IS THE CHANGE, MS. PELOSI?????????????
WHERE IS THE CHANGE WE VOTED FOR????

YOU TRAITOR!!
YOU AND REID,AND ALMOST ALL THE REST OF YOU "REPRESENTATIVES" WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF RON PAUL AND GRAVIL, THE REST OF YOU WILL GO TO JAIL FOR SUBVERTING THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!!
LIARS, CON MEN AND CON WOMEN

PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, YOUR GOVERNMENT IS INFESTED WITH LIARS,SWINDELERS, CROOKS AND PERVERTS.
T-R-A-I-T-O-R-S
TRAITORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MURDERERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How do people figure out pages here? When they call out pages how do they figure what pages are?
9-11 truther | 07.26.07 - 12:45 am | #

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http://www.haloscan.com/comments...ents52/? a=29941

Right now you are here.....Page 52
Left click on the left end of the address bar, slide your mouse to the right (while holding left down)
Right click on the blue
left click, move your cursor next to 52, backspace, make it 53...........

did I get it right this time???


Don't forget. The government has been hording it for years, so they can run into their bunkers after pushing bright shiny red buttons.


I couldn't give a damn about what the government thinks, desires, or wants us to do with food storage....

They can kiss my ass.


This list is too long and missing stuff! Like rope for one thing! And I don't think shaving gear is important! They forgot no.1 thing and that is WATER and plenty of it and FOOD TOO!
9-11 truther | 07.26.07 - 12:10 am |
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It is not meant to be an exhaustive link truther. It is just one resource like you asked for earlier today.
speaking of exhaustive, i am there.
goodnight


How do people figure out pages here? When they call out pages how do they figure what pages are?


Looking for a serious sponser.
Serious shooter out of practice.
My last great rifle.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/ROaC3doV.jpg
The Boyse 50 cal. BMG
(big mother fuckin gun)
47 pounds, unloaded.
Henry Bowman | 07.25.07 - 9:34 pm | #

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Fuck it, goin to bed. Reload press is set up finally.....
God bless all you Patriots.


Yes, a definate must read, a "how to" of revolution, if I can't get you to read one of the best books of all time........
One short page.


Yes, dammit, this link works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/ Henry_Bowman


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/ Henry_Bowman

Sorry, disregard all the previous idiocy........


Fuckin computers......
Or, if it doesn't work again, left click on the link, slide across entire link (including the name)
shit!
right click and select "copy"
shit!
left click on address window to highlight it, backspace wipes address window clean, paste url of Henry owman there. then go to right end of address bar and click "Go"
Henry Bowman | 07.26.07 - 12:22 am | #

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...i/ _Henry_Bowman

Fuckin computers......
Or, if it doesn't work again, left click on the link, slide across entire link (including the name)
left click on address window to highlight it, backspace wipes address window clean, paste url of Henry owman there. then go to right end of address bar and click "Go"


SCENES?
Grammatically and spelling handicapped.......
But I'm a helluva shot!!


This list is too long and missing stuff! Like rope for one thing! And I don't think shaving gear is important! They forgot no.1 thing and that is WATER and plenty of it and FOOD TOO!


must read, how to guide for successful revolution.
Henry Bowman | 07.25.07 - 10:47 pm
Where in hell is the link?
9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 11:07 pm | #

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/ Henry_Bowman
Henry Bowman | 07.25.07 - 4:35 pm | #

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Haloscan has been fucked up most of the day...
I think NSA/CIA is working overtime behind the seens...........


http://www.disasternecessities.c...519/product/ C70
You might want to get this!? I think all you have to do is plug in phone in wall,right?


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"Survival-in-a-Can"
What is this? Also what about storage for gasoliine? That's hard to store and unsafe?
9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 11:47 pm |

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I don't know . I just got the link myself while looking for the answer to my post today . I haven't read thru it all yet either.


"Survival-in-a-Can"
What is this? Also what about storage for gasoliine? That's hard to store and unsafe?


misquoting me!
9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 11:08 pm |
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I simply didn't grab your entire last sentence truther, only a part of it , like above.....
I wasn't trying to quote you .


They keep blocking my posts! I AM Pissed! I keep getting an error message! Probably fucking treasonous fed's! Anyway, I don't believe ALL FBI are corrupt and evil but most I believe are, but not all, rest are just afraid of their jobs, which is BULLSHIT since they took an oath to defend our nation and our precious Constitution too against ALL enemies foreign and domestic and fucking treazonous Bush/Cheney and some Dem's and R's alike are OUT AND OUT TRAITOR'S! FACTS! AND LET THIS FUCKING POST GO THROUGH!


right click, save target as

Sees Things | 07.25.07 - 11:00 pm |
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I tried that, I think you posted that a page or two ago . For some reason I can't play realplayer or mediaplayer anymore. Something about codecs. Technology challenged I am : )


They just want us fighting each other and NOT them! FACT!
9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 11:02 pm | #

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that was my point, consider their motivation
a person would be a fool to "work for them"


kells | 07.25.07 - 11:06 pm
kells, I said NOT to panic! NOT to panic! Stop misquoting me!


A must read, how to guide for successful revolution.
Henry Bowman | 07.25.07 - 10:47 pm
Where in hell is the link?


people panic!
9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 10:55 pm |
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I havent done half of what I need to do yet myself . These links are for me as well as anyone else who might find it useful.
Mantles are little silk things that go in a coleman kerosene lantern. It is the equivalant of a light bulb. It is the thing that glows or burns once the lantern is lit. If you don't have them you can't light the lantern , hence, have extras.


kells
will you be coming on IM tonight?


Sees Things. FUCKING FBI helped do 1st WTC bombing, OKC bombing too! And they are trying to turn American's against American's so fucking treasonous bastards can further their agenda,i.e destroyiing America from within! FUCK THE FBI, MOST OF THEM ARE IN BED WITH BUSH! HELL, THEY EVEN ADMITTED PROVIDING EXPLOSIVES FOR 1ST WTC BOMBING! They just don't want us joining forces and HANGING THEIR TREASONOUS ASSES IS ALL! WE MUST NOT LET THOSE TRAITORS DIVIDE US! WE ALL MUST FIGHT THEM TOGETHER! They just want us fighting each other and NOT them! FACT!


I haven't heard Alex in over a month. I am still going thru withdrawal. : (
kells | 07.25.07 - 10:27 pm | #

download the shows at:
http://globalplantation.org/aj_radio/

right click, save target as


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti..._informants.htm

FBI Proposes Building Network of U.S. Informants

know what happens to a rat in jail ?
gee lets turn America into a jail and recruit some rats.
takes care of some population pretty quick.


I would get crank flashlights so you don't have to mess with batteries!


9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 10:29 pm |
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I know. This is some of the hardest information I have ever had to process. Its a nightmare and I am wide awake.


kells | 07.25.07 - 10:31 pm
Thanks, Kells! I emailed you! What are these please? Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. ? How should we stock up on gas? Any clues? We MUST help each other out here and DON"T have people panic!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/ Henry_Bowman
Henry Bowman | 07.25.07 - 4:35 pm | #

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A must read, how to guide for successful revolution.


I found out about it because I read in the paper that some homeless people could keep an entire room warm with a tuna can and some cardboard.
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.25.07 - 9:29 pm
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I love this tip...simple. Its a keeper !


More preparedness info:
http://www.thepowerhour.com/ news...appearfirst.htm


kells | 07.25.07 - 7:52 pm
FUCK THEM kells! I don't care what they say and don't you listen to them either! They just want us under their thumbs and under their control! So they can force us to take the MARK OF THE BEAST WHICH I WILL NOT TAKE! PERIOD! FUCK THEM KELLS! DON'T LISTEN TO THEIR SHIT! THEY ARE PURE EVIL!


Alex is on.......
Henry Bowman | 07.25.07 - 10:17 pm |
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I haven't heard Alex in over a month. I am still going thru withdrawal. : (


Alex is on.......


In the event you are stuck somewhere (like in your car) and are cold and hungry, I found something that is cheap, easy to carry and will keep you warm and heat you some soup or coffee (or even water) at the same time.

When my furnace motor in my home went out a few years back, I was able to keep my house fairly comfortable even in the coldest of winter until I could get the furnace fixed by using a couple of bread pans this way.

You will need an empty tuna can or two, or a bread pan or two (or as a lid you can use aluminum foil), and a metal cup, and possibly a coat hanger bent to hold up the cup (for the hot water).

Plus you will need some matches and cardboard. You tear (or cut) the cardboard in 1" or so wide strips and wind them loosely in circular fashion in the tuna can until the space is taken up. Then pour in some alcohol until the cardboard is all wet. Light it and set it in a safe place. You can even hold it and it won't get too hot. As the alcohol gets used up, hold your alcohol bottle up high and carefully pour in some more. It will last quite a while (even on one bottle), and it produces a goodly amount of heat and give light off at the same time.

In the freezing cold winter months when I have to travel in wilderness areas, I always take this heating kit with me (plus a new 8x10 tarp) so that in the event of car trouble or getting stuck because of slick roads, we can be fairly comfortable until help arrives. (In the past, it has been so cold sometimes that if my car had given out (or we got stuck somewhere), I think we would have instantly frozen to death unless we had with us this method to keep warm.)

If you don't have a lot of alcohol with you, You can cover the burning can with another can and it will put out the fire; and then you can light it back up as needed. I guess the trick is to have enough alcohol and matches with you.

How many times last winter would this method to keep warm have saved those who were stranded in the snow? (Probably every time.)

But alas! they didn't know about it.

I found out about it because I read in the paper that some homeless people could keep an entire room warm with a tuna can and some cardboard.


of other stuff too! Oh, I forgot to mention getting matches that are water proof and like, too! I wished I could afford MRE's as they keep longer but their expensive!
9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 1:23 pm |


dip strike anywhere kitchen matches in clear nail polish


of other stuff too! Oh, I forgot to mention getting matches that are water proof and like, too! I wished I could afford MRE's as they keep longer but their expensive!
9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 1:23 pm |
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That is good info truther.
I am back home and looking for the link on 2 weeks food storage but it might be like Henry said and it's actually 2 months.
Here is a very helpful link for food storage:
http://www.ssrsi.org/rah/bin/ sto...stockpiling.htm
Copy and paste I guess it doesn't appear blue right now.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/ Henry_Bowman
This is a must read. If I can't convince you all to get the book, this is a short explanation on bringing revolution, successfully


Too damn many exclamations points 9-11 Truther. Try to use them a bit more sparingly. We all know what is up around here.....


: )


Hey, 9-11 truther, I was gonna ask if you've had your blood pressure checked lately, as a comercial for "Caduet" comes on.......coincidence?
Hey, relax, I'm on your side, did you notice the name I gave Clinton????
Maybe I do have a clue.


Henry Bowman, GET A CLUE! Both Bush's and BOTH Clinton's are in bed together and HAVE BEEN! For along time now! BOTH FAMILIES SUCK AND ARE PURE EVIL! Period! Hell, they even go on vacation together, what does that tell you sheeple? Get a clue! I hate them ALL as they are ALL on same side, stop being so f*cking naive and gullible! Bush's and Clinton's are ALL on same side as well as others! ALL part of pure evil NWO! FACTS! This is NOT about left versus right nor about "libs" versus conservatives but about patriotic American's fighting TREASONOUS, LYING BASTARDS FROM BOTH PARTIES AND TRYING TO STOP PEOPLE IN BOTH PARTIES FROM DESTROYING AMERICA FROM WITHIN AND OUR PRECIOUS CONSTITUTION TOO! WAKE THE FUCK UP TO THIS PLEASE AND NOW!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/ Henry_Bowman


I think the source of much of the restrictive executive orders were under the Clinton administration. Hellery knows best...........
Think Bill Clinton Walker Bush Signed over 1000 while in the oral office......


I'll be damned.......Been looking for this gun picture for 2 or more years.......lost this Boyse 50 BMG 3 years ago, borrowed against it to pay for school.......
Any wealthy patriot care to sponsor a serious shooter? I promise to put it to good use soon.....Lost the truck too, money for school....
Anonymous | 07.25.07 - 3:51 pm | #

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computer challenged......


Try again.......
http://thumbsnap.com/v/ROaC3doV.jpg


Last time the subject came up, I think in my Guns and Ammo magazine,
You are also limited to 1000 rounds of ammo.
shit, I got more than that in each of several calibers........I agree, fuck them.


Sorry, damn computer is picking on me.http://thumbsnap.com/v/ROaC3doV.jpg
Damn computers.......


We desperately need a REAL fucking Revolution and have for along time now! And I do mean a real one!


Henry Bowman, Like I said before, law or no law, anyone abidding by their fucking treasonous, UN Constitutional laws DESERVES TO STARVE! PERIOD! YOU CAN ABIDE BY MASS MURDERING TRAITOR'S LAWS IF YOU WANT TO! BUT I INTEND TO FEED MY FAMILY AND ME TOO! And FUCK anyone who tries to stop me! ONLY fucking stupid, naive gullible sheeple would follow these mass murdering TREASONOUS MOTHERFUCKER'S ILLEGAL, UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS! Those who do DESERVE TO STARVE! END OF DISCUSSION! By the way, this is PROVE to stupid fucker's out there in America what these Motherfucker's have in store for U.S.! And world too pure evil bastards! And Rest of you are moronic, STUPID SHEEPLE IF YOU ABIDE BY THIS TREASONOUS SHIT, TOO!


I'll be damned.......Been looking for this gun picture for 2 or more years.......lost this Boyse 50 BMG 3 years ago, borrowed against it to pay for school.......
Any wealthy patriot care to sponsor a serious shooter? I promise to put it to good use soon.....Lost the truck too, money for school....


All the information you didn't want to know about the illegality of hoarding food. If I remember right, you are allowed only1 or 2 months worth of food.........
http://www.google.com/search? hl=...C+food+hoarding


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...mayorsigned.htm
This just in! NO "conspiracy theory' MY ASS! This guy is a TRAITOR! FACT! WE NEED TO RAISE HOLY HELL WITH ALL THESE MOTHERFUCKERS' AND NOW! RAISE HELL AND NOW OR LIVE IN TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION AND STOP LETTING THEM DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN! STOP NAU AND SPP AND NOW!


Anonymous, POST THE LINK! POST THE LINK! Smartass!


jbrid1138, I agree 1000% ! And FUCK the UNpatriotic act, which is TOTALLY UN constitutional, period! SHOW US THE LINK, ASSHOLE! POST THE LINK!


I think you mean JERK OFF, you dipshit.

Again, you say it is -- and that's supposed to make it so? Prove it. Extract the words so we might all become educated as you are on the subject. Provide us a simple link. Do that, please do. I want to see exactly what it is you claim to know all about. I'm not in support of the Patriot Act // I believe it to be unpatriotic // but at the same time PROVE your words or don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. Dipshit.


Prove what you say
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Read the Patriot Act!!
It IS the LAW In the U.S. Now
Jurk-off


Who the fuck are you to come on this site with this shit?
Educate yourself, if you are able to do so.
Anonymous | 07.25.07 - 2:37 pm |
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Yes, I'm able to do so.

Prove what you say, dipshit; and stop with the show boating. Prove what you say (in so impolite terms) or shut the F-up. Inciting people to riot is against the law, that's for sure. You sound like one to yell from the back of the crow '' get a rope' -- Prove your claim, dipshit (anonymous) and then I'll be more than welcome to agree to panic. Other than that -- take a long F-ing walk off a short plank, dipshit //


Who the fuck are you to come on this site with this shit?
Educate yourself, if you are able to do so.
Anonymous
Because I have NEVER heard of it before! And YOUR an asshole! I post here regularly do you? And "who am I to come on this site with this shit?" I HAVE A FUCKING RIGHT ASSHOLE TO ASK FOR PROOF! THAT'S WHAT! FUCKHEAD, Anonymous! And if ANYONE abides by their fucked up laws, THEY DESERVE TO STARVE! PERIOD! Fucked up UN CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS I might add too!


jbrid1138 | 07.25.07 - 2:30 pm |
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I smell a RAT right here!!


to believe extra food is now
jbrid1138 | 07.25.07 - 2:30 pm | #
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Hey, I don't know where you are coming from.
I see post after post from you in doubt.
Go and read your Patriot Act Jurkoff.
Hording food is illegal, they can seize your property if they deem that you are hording food.
Who the fuck are you to come on this site with this shit?
Educate yourself, if you are able to do so.


(quote from link)
In some locations, storing food is prohibited or limited by law. When packaging and storing food, always obey local food storage laws and sanitation guidelines.
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This is certainly not proof nor is it reason to panic, not that I can see. Am I missing something?


What is MJTF troops and biometric measures?

Multi Joint Task Force
this is foreign troops, feds, police, recruited gang members too. they plan on using gang members to roust houses first, extricate or kill the residents, take whatever they want and get paid for it. disposable. the gangs would be better off shooting those who would try to recruit them.


(quoting myself)
// Not joking about THEM banning food //
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Two things in that one sentence // the words 'NOT joking' and the words 'about THEM' --

I truly don't put anything past THEM but why run and tell everyone the sky is falling when there is no proof of same? A simple but important question, I believe.

I don't care how many people might have joined in an become excited to believe extra food is now (or will be) illegal -- all I'm asking is --

Show me proof of it. I'm sure others would be equally interested.


Why can't a person use milk cartons(plastic type) for water storage? They say biodegradable but isn't plastic container's with sealed up water in them same thing or not? I would use them for at least shower water, and like maybe not to drink out of! Suggestions?
9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 2:23 pm | #

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plastic milk jugs are fer squat, they dont last and will leak. 2 liter soda bottles much better and can handle freezing too. a good water filter even better, not near as heavy as stored water. plastic isnt great stuff at all really.. but if its what you got, it will be better than not having any water.
I know for experience on this one.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...owearrested.htm

4 years served is a deserter ?!! BS !!
FALSE ARREST !!


Why can't a person use milk cartons(plastic type) for water storage? They say biodegradable but isn't plastic container's with sealed up water in them same thing or not? I would use them for at least shower water, and like maybe not to drink out of! Suggestions?


http://www.myfavoriteezines.com/...od- storage.html
This might be helpful! While bottom does say laws about food storage, I think they mean like for warehouses and the like!


Show me.
jbrid1138 | 07.25.07 - 2:12 pm
Your the one saying you were joking about banning of stock piling food and were joking with me! kells also said there was a ban too and another person too! But you yourself admitting joking about it!


I am going by what was told me by a reliable source re the food storage laws. And I thought I ran across it myself online.
I am looking for a link now and not finding anything yet. I will let you know.
I am sorry if mispoke but I will let you know either way. Real sorry ! I didn't mean to upset anyone I feel bad at the moment


Anonymous, What is MJTF troops and biometric measures?
This shit will hit the fan before end of next year you can BANK ON IT! It will hit before Bush supposedly gets out of office, hence WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET HIM OUT OF OFFICE PERIOD! ONLY FORCEABLY!


For clarification // Not joking about them banning food // joking with you only.

I don't believe this first of all. It makes no sense on many levels. Of course there are tons of things as relates to our government that makes no sense -- but something like food and survival is an entirely different matter, I believe, I think, I feel. Surely not.

Why get all bent around the axel on something (??) ANYTHING that hasn't been proven? There's enough of the proven to worry about as it is. Don't inject pure and utter nonsense into people; that plays the same as PsyOps // control by fear. Not saying you're an agent of PsyOps -- but for God's sake -- Where does it say that keeping extra food (and water) is illegal?

Show me.


Don't worry. This is a smart move.
Tim | 07.25.07 - 1:53 pm
Tim, Ron has flipped flopped on this issue! How do YOU know he will reopen 9-11? LOU DOBBS WILL! PLEASE ALL SIGN LOU'S PETITION TO URGE HIM TO RUN! It's lower on message board! Lou WILL demand a new 9-11 but like I have said before, we are not going to have a different President as Bush is going to declare Marshall Law before long! FACT! SO FORGET ABOUT NEXT ELECTION AND START STOCK PILING ALL SURVIVAL GEAR AND NOW AND WARNING OTHERS TO DO THE SAME!


jbrid1138, And others, joking about them banning stockpiling of food is NO joke! I would NOT put anything past these treasonous, mass murdering Motherfucker's! But kells also said there is a law! And getting out of town won't help! I know Professor Jones, and have talked with him personally several times! He is wonderful man! He is soo very nice, too!


Don't worry. This is a smart move.
Tim | 07.25.07 - 1:53 pm |
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Yes it is.
I personally don't believe he is a shill.


call me "T.C." for short.
Mr Thought Crime | 07.25.07 - 1:44 pm

That is a quick synopsis.
Anonymous | 07.25.07 - 1:42 pm
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Thanks TC.


Post the link where the MF'ers say we can't have more then two weeks of food! Post it please! Anyone abidding by these criminals illegal, unconstitutional laws, DESERVES TO STARVE!


9-11 TRUTHER -- It's okay, I'm just joking with you a little bit; not to upset you (you seem that already) just trying to relax the conversation a bit around here. Guess it didn't work quite like that.

I don't know if anything that says it's against the law to stock pile food // If there is -- please show it to me and get out of the way. Because I'll be on the next fastest bus out of town, for sure. That can't be, surely not.

I know that Mormons are big on food and water storage. It makes good sense, always has (in the event of any kind of emergency -- weather, job lay off, just too tired to head off to the corner market -- and yes in the event of something really terrible as well, I suppose. The Mormons have been doing it as doctrine for many years. They also believe in minimal to no debt and chipping in to help one another whether that help is asked for or not, within reason. Some are just too proud to ask, others need it and there is no shame in helping one another. Another thing they believe strongly in is maintaining a farm or garden -- fresh grown vegetables aplenty, for themself indivdiually and to others -- much is even exported to others for variety. They have a pretty darn good plan in effect for survival, in other words.

I used to be a practicing Mormon, a convert, but got away from the rigors as it was becoming too encompassing. That was the fault of myself and others of good intention, I'm sure. Unfortunately, many devout Mormons forget about other things of this world -- some bad, but some not so bad. Anytime man puts his hand in the 'works' things tend to get screwed up. But their basic practices remain sound.

Just thought I'd share that with everyone. So, if you are having questions regarding anything related to this matter of food storage and survival -- contact a Mormon for guidance. Not joking, being serious in saying that.

PS. Our good Professor Steven E. Jones, author of "Why Indeed Did The World Trade Center Collapse' (thermate) is a Mormon. Here's a video of him and a few of his fellow supporters regarding 9/11:
(52 min)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...ruthseekers.org


Anonymous, What is MJTF troops and biometric measures? It WILL happen before end of next year! It will happen BEFORE Bush is to get out of office! YOU CAN BANK ON IT! Bush did NOT get authority to call Guard out without using it! YOU CAN F*CKING BANK ON IT! I think it will happen as soon as August! This is what I think they have planned, 1. Do another false flag attack, only this time with nukes or mini-nukes, set off in one or more U.S. cites, and 2. blame Iran for it then 3. Bomb needlessly Iran and invade them, then according to EVEN that Congressman, 4. declare Marshall law and 5. Try to round up all the dissentants and take to those 800 FEMA "civilian detention camps" they have. 6. Sometime, purposedly collapse our dollar too to force U.S. onto "amero" and try to force U.S..Canada too and Mexico into treasonous NAU and SPP, too! And possibly have a false flag attack in Canada as well to scare the Canadian's into accepting NAU too! EVEN that Congressman says Marshall Law after we attack Iran! But I believe another false flag attack is coming before we attack Iran, so they can blame Iran for it! And soon! Like maybe next month! How does Bush know August will be "bloodiest' month? HOW?


Ron Paul's official position is not associating himself with 9/11. I understand his thinking now. He's deliberately doing this guys to not alienate anyone so he can get into office. Once he's in office, he will let an investigation progress and not interfere with it. Don't worry. This is a smart move.


Oh, before I go. This was a funny one jb.....

Some 'Chill Pills' might be a good idea. Can never get enough of those things.
jbrid1138 | 07.25.07 - 12:35 pm


Any way,

Carry on folks. Just dropping in to add my couple cents.

Later.


My focus, means that I am subjecting my hopes and aspirations to nothing short of the inevitable. In otherwords, no more pretending that things are going to get better. And concentrating from here out as to how I might get through the coming mess.....


jbrid1138, I said I didn't care which you were! Please don't take offense, just wondering is all! I didn't say you did error message to me, just board or something! Probably fucking treasonous fed's!


Wow. We have 88 now 84 visitors.

Hope you are all on the side of truth. If not, get there!


"mostly becoming more focused this next year" What does this mean, please, anonymous? I believe we will have Marshall Law and another false flag attack as early as August! Why has Bush said August will be a bloody month? How in HELL does he know? How does he know?


jbrid1138, I love you and your right on! I have tried to post this same comment 4 times now! Keep getting 502 error message! By the way, are you a guy or girl? Just wondering?
9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 12:59 pm |
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JB don't play that game, forum friend.

If my hair is a bit too long in back, that don't make me a girl; and if my hair is a bit short all around -- that don't make me no lesbo either. What the hell does it matter to anyone, guy or girl? It shouldn't -- But thanks for asking.

Here's something that might interest you:
Male Restroom Etiquette --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h? v=IzO1mCAVyMw


Kells. That was me posting last couple.

Mr. T.C.

call me "T.C." for short.


But I am debt free and that is a start. I am buying survival gear, water, food, ammo, gun or two, and mostly becoming more focused this next year. I am not getting a national I.D. card, nor a bio-chip. So I guess when they come to enforce these things I will be an outlaw, and they will be the "LAWLESS" for they are now beginning to encroach on what is not theirs. Render unto Ceasar only goes so far in my book, as well as many others. The fight is coming. Unfortunately.
Anonymous | 07.25.07 - 1:37 pm
And I am with you 100% Anonymous too! I too will be an "outlaw" and we will be "resistance" which they will try to take to those 800 FEMA camps so get LOTS of ammo and at least 2 guns and NOT whimpy ones either but heavy duty ones! "they will be the "LAWLESS" for they are now beginning to encroach on what is not theirs" BUT they already have been "lawless" ones and have been for some time now! IF you other people plan on abidding by their fucked up treasonsous laws, why not just give up now? You might as well!


As far as how it will "shake" down....

They will kill many of our own military in the meat grinder called the Middle East, and implode things purposefully from within here in the good 'ol USA. This will happen VERY SOON. Like, the end of next year in my estimation.

We will accept the guise of foreign aid (MJTF troops) and they will begin to enforce biometric measures to keep the so-called "peace" (which is a mere illusion for the enslavement of mankind).

That is a quick synopsis.


ALL, STOP ABIDDING BY THEIR FUCKING, ILLEGAL, UNCONSTITUTIONAL BOGUS LAWS AND NOW! That is how we got into this terrorible mess in first place! STOP ABIDDING BY THEIR TREASONOUS, TRAITOR LAWS IF YOU WANT TO SURVIVE! Stock up on more then just 2 weeks of food! FUCK THEIR TREASONOUS, ILLEGAL UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS! PERIOD! IF YOU ALL ARE GOING TO ABIDE BY THEIR FUCKED UP LAWS, YOUR DONE FOR ALREADY! FACT!


There are too many unknowns. But I am suspecting more of what I've already seen. Checkpoints, helicopters, pricey gas to limit our movement, no leaving the country without your papers, in time , maybe no crossing the state borders without your papers.
How do you think it will shake down and how have you prepared ?
kells | 07.25.07 - 10:22 am | #

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Well, Kells I am not a man of great finances. But I am debt free and that is a start. I am buying survival gear, water, food, ammo, gun or two, and mostly becoming more focused this next year. I am not getting a national I.D. card, nor a bio-chip. So I guess when they come to enforce these things I will be an outlaw, and they will be the "LAWLESS" for they are now beginning to encroach on what is not theirs. Render unto Ceasar only goes so far in my book, as well as many others. The fight is coming. Unfortunately.


Show me their fucking law about stock piling food! Post the link! A BIG FUCK THEM, NOONE should be abidding by their fucking fucked up laws, PERIOD! STOP ABIDDING BY TREASONOUS ASSHOLES LAWS IF YOU WANT TO SURVIVE!


Show me the fucking law where they say it is illegal to stock pile food!? FUCK THOSE TREASONOUS BASTARDS BIG TIME! ANYONE ABIDDING BY ANY OF THESE TREASONOUS BASTARDS, TRAITOROUS LAWS DESERVES TO STARVE AND DESERVES WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM! STOP ABIDDING BY THEIR FUCKING FUCKED UP LAWS, PERIOD!


IF hording food is illegal in U.S what does that fucking tell you ALL? They ARE planning Marshall Law and FUCK THEM ALL TO HELL! I WILL STOCK PILE ENOUGH FOOD AND WATER FOR ME AND MY FAMILY AND FUCK THEM! PERIOD! MOTHERFUCKING FASCISTS! SINCE WHEN!? FUCK THEM AND THEIR GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING TREASONOUS ILLEGAL UNCONSTITUTIONAL FUCKING FUCKING LAWS, ALL TO HELL! They want us dependent on them, WELL A HUGE FUCK THEM TO HELL AND BACK! ANYONE GOING BY THIS FUCKING SHIT IS OUT AND OUT STUPID! Anyone abidding by their fucking treasonous laws DESERVES TO STARVE!


Hording food is now illegal in the U.S.
How fucked up is that?
Anonymous | 07.25.07 - 1:22 pm
Since when? Says WHO? FUCK THEM! Let them try and take it from me! Just fucking try! WHO said!? FUCK THEM AND THEIR ASSINE FUCKING MARSHALL LAW FUCKING TREASONOUS LAWS! FUCK THEM! A BIG FUCK THEM!


kells, I have stock piled food, water, gas mask, nuke pills, first aid kit, crank weather radio, water decontamination pills which are too expense so I only have a few, no seeds yet but I think that is good idea. Wished my family would listen to me and stock up too! I had a friend who was from Hungrary and seen alot and sent me a long list of survival gear to get but she had a stroke and I was stupid and didn't save list! And now she can't remember! She said to get 50 or 100 feet of rope too and NO not to hang yourself either and rifle to shoot game with, and alot of other stuff too! Oh, I forgot to mention getting matches that are water proof and like, too! I wished I could afford MRE's as they keep longer but their expensive!


we are not allowed to store more than two weeks of food
9-11 truther__________________________

Hording food is now illegal in the U.S.
How fucked up is that?


kells," because we are not allowed to store more than two weeks of food" WHO fucking said this, please? Who? I will store as much food as I can! And your wonderful for helping out homeless! Kells, I emailed you! Did you get my email? Your Maria right? Why hertiage seeds? And where can you get them at?


kells and others, I think we need to DRAFT LOU DOBBS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT! He definitely wants an new 9-11 investigation and was instrumental in stopping the horrorible immigration bill too! PLEASE sign his petition to urge him to run! http://www.loudobbs4president.net/ SPREAD THIS WIDELY AND FAST! We MUST urge Lou to run, although I would hate to lose him as commentator either! But please sign petition for him to run and help him out! He has said publicly that he wants a new 9-11 investigation, unlike Ron Paul, whom I like but don't trust completely! Hell, I don't trust ANYONE completely but Lou has said publicly we need a new 9-11 investigation! And that is good enough for me! He is good on trade issues too and immigration too! PLEASE SPREAD THIS WIDELY AND FAST! Urge Lou Dobbs to run for President, even though I don't think we will get a chance to vote again as Bush will declare Marshall Law before election, YOU CAN BANK ON IT!


I would get the nuke iodine, forget what its called but someone posted the other night that it will only protect in limited circumstances. I would still get it.
I would order heritage seeds and plant some all around where you live because we are not allowed to store more than two weeks of food. plant stuff that will return year after year ( seed itseslf)
get a water filter ( berkey makes them and many others) and start storing water and canned goods.
Order large containers of wheat flour / honey / salt/ any thing that is a staple and has a long shelf life. Start a garden with heritage seeds, Keep some aside in special containers along with several bags of dirt and growlights incase you have to grow food in your home due to contamination.
Stock up on painkillers (otc) alcohol , hydrogen peroxide, bandages, surgical needles antibiotic ointment, Purchase some orgegano oil and other herbs and herbal remedies because they will be outlawed eventually.
THis sounds like a lot but do a little every week .


I am going to campaign for RP. Maybe I am a fool for that but I need to have hope right now. It will help me personally but that's not why I am doing it.
This board--- grasshopper, Sees Things, Tim,Jbrid, Henry, Chris, sane and many others have given me hope. Your hearts are so good and you have such an information arsenal.
I was not going to get involved in the RP thing. But I took my kids out one day , and we put Ron Paul flyers on cars in parking lots. I encountered some people as I did this. Have you looked around lately when you are out shopping, gassing up etc? Have you not seen how very poor people are becoming ? I know what its like to be able to afford only basics. I identify with poor people. I am vastly blessed compared to some I see.
When I handed them a flyer, one lady said " thanks- I need some hope " . I fully expected people to say ' F- off ' and I was so surprised at the reaction. One other couple , in their 20's said
"Is he like Bush ? " I answered - "He is completely opposite- end the war end the IRS, limited government" So she said " we will vote for Ron Paul. Anything but Bush " . That was it ! The NWO has overplayed their hand. In their pride and zeal they have taken too much too fast. The Country is angry, and poor and confused. They don't know what to do.
Campaigning is a way to wake up people to what our government is doing. Its a way to introduce politics and the truth movement with or without 9-11 truth. And hope.
IF Ron p is a shill , then at least a lot more people will be in a position to save themselves when it hits the fan as I campaign for him and open their eyes to the government lies even if they never register or vote.


jbrid1138, I love you and your right on! I have tried to post this same comment 4 times now! Keep getting 502 error message! By the way, are you a guy or girl? Just wondering?


Some 'Chill Pills' might be a good idea. Can never get enough of those things.
jbrid1138 | 07.25.07 - 12:35 pm
What are these please? Are you talking about Vicoden? Or what? I do have "nuke pills" just in case! You can get them at www.nukepills.com and other places online! This is TWICE I have posted this info on this website only to have first time deleted! I am getting tired of this! Someone or group of treasonous bastards in gov't must be deleting them? jbrid1138, Your right on! Anything else we should stock up on? Any suggestions, Sees Things or jbrid1138 or kells? Or anyone else?


Agreed! There are some among us that would water theif house plants right before a major flood event.

Some that would chose horseshit over bullshit simply because they like horses.

Some that would try and push a chain --

While others in this same category would argue spelling mistakes and simply typos and NOT see the importance behind the thought being relayed.

Dumbasses. Ass wipes. Lame brains. Idiots.

9/11 was an inside job. Prove me wrong -- dumbasses, ass wipes, lame brains of this forum. Dare you.


This board, like many on the net, offers direct insight to the grammatically challenged state of the electorate. It's kind of sad.
curious | 07.25.07 - 9:25 am
Leave it to some moron, to worry about "grammatically challenged" when Marshall Law is about to break out!


Some 'Chill Pills' might be a good idea. Can never get enough of those things.


I would also stock up on any medications for at least 3 months incase something does happen soon! Sees Things, Can you think of anything else to stock up on? Besides what we have talked about?


I want a new investigation. I'm an American citizen that feels that 9/11 was wrong on many levels. I won't ignore that in any shape or fashion. Never.
jbrid1138 | 07.25.07 - 6:53 am
RIGHT ON! RIGHT ON! ME EITHER! AND SCREW ANYONE INCLUDING RON PAUL WHO DOES NOT WANT A NEW INVESTIGATION! PERIOD! How do we know that Ron Paul is not a "shill" for NWO? How? Besides he can NOT save America by himself! We need a REVOLUTION! ONLY thing that will ave world and America! FACT!


yes the corrupt ones will have a place in the NWO, but the few real ones get the axe.


http://www.911blogger.com/node/10130
Read the FIRST paragraph of this article closely where a fucking treasonous Congressman says there is Marshall Law coming and he is ALL fucking for it and against impeachment! Proving like I have said thousands of times here, that ALL or damn near ALL in Congress are IN BED WITH BUSH/AND COHORTS! FACT! So please wake up to it! And to The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker, how's this for NEWS? It's NOT always what Alex posts that makes news here but COMMENTS, that has important info in it!! Read where that Congressman says he is against impeachment yet wants Marshall Law! Call him up and RAISE HOLY HELL AND NOW!


Sees Things | 07.25.07 - 12:03 pm WRONG, Sees Things as MOST of them are in BED WITH BUSH! FACT! And I am fucking tired of my posts not being posted here! They vanish after I write them!


congress disbanded will be the biggest bunch of whiners and wannabe leaders, first to get the guillotine. they dont think about this.


http://www.slobokan.com/archives...he-entire-list/

another castleberry list.


Checkpoints, helicopters, pricey gas to limit our movement, no leaving the country without your papers, in time , maybe no crossing the state borders without your papers.
How do you think it will shake down and how have you prepared ?
kells | 07.25.07 - 10:22 am
Kells, Your right on about Marshall Law! This is what I think they have planned, first another false flag attack to blame on Iran, then invade and bomb Iran, then declare Marshall Law and sometime in there purposedly collapse our dollar too then force NAU and SPP on to Congress, or hell just disband Congress altogether like Operation Garden Plot and Cable Splicer does, and wipe out local gov't too, then start rounding up dissenter's to take to those 800 "civilian detention camps" they have! This link should be of help! http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi...cgi? read=106835 I have posted this post TWICE NOW, since 1st time it did NOT post at all!


http://www.webmd.com/food-recipe...-widened? page=2

big list of their products and sub-labels
(but I'd ditch anything from these people)


http://www.webmd.com/food-recipe...? src=RSS_PUBLIC

read up.


released a little too soon and discovered ?
who owns castlebury ?
Sees Things | 07.25.07 - 11:20 am
What was released too soon and discovered?


what all labels does castlebury produce for ?


big recall on literally tons of canned foods containing botulism from castlebury factory
think these NWO bastards trying to poison peoples emergency supplies for when there will be no electric power, no gas .. ?

released a little too soon and discovered ?
who owns castlebury ?


Are you preparing to survive within or (apart from) the system?
Mr Thought Crime | 07.25.07 - 2:29 am |
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What do you mean ?
We are part way off the grid now . Takes a lot of money to do it and time. Working on fully off grid. Lots of water. Filters.
I have children so I won't be running through the woods survivalist style. I hope. I wouldn't ' survive' .
I am staying put and making preparations for our family and those left homeless to possibly join me.
If I knew exactly what was coming - martial law / nuclear disaster/ here comes a bomb from Russia or China or Iran all of the above - it would help me be more focused.
There are too many unknowns. But I am suspecting more of what I've already seen. Checkpoints, helicopters, pricey gas to limit our movement, no leaving the country without your papers, in time , maybe no crossing the state borders without your papers.
How do you think it will shake down and how have you prepared ?


This board, like many on the net, offers direct insight to the grammatically challenged state of the electorate. It's kind of sad.
curious | 07.25.07 - 9:25 am |
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It is sad. Imagine what might have happened if in our 'free' nation we had been 'allowed' to be homeschooled? Without having to jump all of the financial and legal hoops ?
You are looking at the end result of a public-school education in this county.


More distractions, ready, hand on the buzzer, hope this doesn't distract from the scary martial law being brought in next year, but what the fuck...
The meaning of life...Part 3
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=5


I want a new investigation. I'm an American citizen that feels that 9/11 was wrong on many levels. I won't ignore that in any shape or fashion. Never.
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I agree with you 100%.
Right now insisting Ron Paul address this, especially if he said he knows it was an inside job, would insure he would never be elected.
That's all I'm saying.
He's a smart man, I'm sure he believes as firmly as you, but the man is no fool.


This board, like many on the net, offers direct insight to the grammatically challenged state of the electorate. It's kind of sad.


So, Ron Paul does not support the position that 911 was an inside job, and he has read the internet and rarely see's it (that it was). If you then think he will win the election and change his mind or or open his eyes you are mistaken. Ron Paul is not for real and will not get my vote. I'd rather vote for Nader or or even the dead guy Harry Brown.


Why don't you source your articles? Jay-zus! I can't quote you if you don't link to the place where you found this information.

Also, when PrisonPlanet uses its own articles to source itself, without linking or at least footnoting more authoritative sources, is cheating.

As things stand this is not a newswebsite; it's a gossip column. Just sayin.


Bush can say whatever he wants about AlQuiada but the facts are he has no credibility left.

Easy to predict terror when one is behind that terror.

They are not our saviours but more our butchers

Beware of evil leaders


Real News --
UNCLASSIFIED -- FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY --
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnb...t% 20warning.pdf


VEry well stated CJ -- and you're right.

News has turned into a show, not reporting, not exactly, but more a show (presented for its entertainment value) // as we used to say in the army -- 'Knock off that bullshit talk, and get back to work.'

Their work should be -- Tell us the NEWS.

If we want entertainment -- We'll go to Blockbuster and find a nice video.


NEWS MEDIA-Aren't they something.
New York Times columnist David Brooks admitted to using a made-up statistic in order to argue against withdrawal from Iraq.
To justify the word Genocide he has used, Bob Woodward asked him about how many would be lkilled in Iraq after the buildup.
He said, 10,000, when asked why 10,000, he claimed he just picked it out ofthe air.
Stalin, remember him, He said" One death is a tragedy, 10,000 is just a number."
We have no news media. Just propoganda.


Me again // sorry to monopolize the forum, I truly don't believe in doing something like that. But I wanted to add a few word thoughts as regards the earlier postings from me this morning. Not that it's that important, I just want to set the record straight since I'm a member (like you are).

Truth isn't always best when it's upfront and in your face, I know that. I know that in Germany (where I lived for 14 years, off and on) those folks avoid anything related to Nazi in their teachings in schools. I found this odd, but it makes sense -- they don't want to face the TRUTH. Naturally so.

The same can be said in our own schools, to some degree, we avoid the details (as in beating the subject to death) of how we locked up innocent Japanese-American citizens, putting them inside labor (concentration) camps at the outset of WWII, for stated reasons of national security. Again, avoiding the TRUTH, naturally, understandably.

I suppose 9/11 will eventually have to go to that place of less discussion also in each of us for all those same reasons above. It's very difficult accepting the horrors of the events as it is, and equally difficult engaging in serious conversations with many who right now would just as well avoid the TRUTH for reasons that are understandable. No one wants to belabor BAD // we as human beings need to always look for GOOD and to strive for that means to look forward and not so much live in the past. Can't forget history because that only leads to repeating the bad, but that's part of us being human too. I know that.

But 9/11 was an inside job -- we know that. And we know the ones responsible deserve to be identified and punsihed for their crimes against humanity. They deserve no less. And yet I also know that TIME marches on and we need to look forward for better days. Not sure how we'll get there exactly but we still need to look forward and not so much backwards.

New panel to investigate seems important (to me) and I can only imagine the difficulty the TRUTH will bring those facing the issues. Thanks for listening.

Felt that needed to be relayed to you nice, kind folks out there.

My continuing thoughts.


I want a new investigation. I'm an American citizen that feels that 9/11 was wrong on many levels. I won't ignore that in any shape or fashion. Never.
jbrid1138 | 07.25.07 - 6:53 am | #

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Hi J..All of us want a valid investigation, beggining with the victims families to the American people, and the remaining countires of this world.
This present regime of bloodsukers will never alow it.
This abomination, was high treason, mass murder, crimes against humanity, and more.
Only, and beleive only when these parrasites are expeled from office will the truth be know.
They got away scott free from the Vietanam profiteering, their Gulf of Tonkin set up, JFK,RFK,
BUT, they will not get away with this. I beleive that. You are right of course, we need the answers, we need to prosecute and hang the guilty, but at this moment in time they are the demigods of this nation, they have the congress and senate in their pocket, they are ravaging the people with fear, and confussing issues upon issues, other changes in our system being dumped on us at the same time.
Our news media was once Americanism, now it is BUshism, controled.
A invasion, and illegal war,immigration tactics, hiring mercenaries, homeland security, Iran, we re being dumped on, but we will never put asside 911, never. WE, US, the people will overcome.
We, truthers, and others of concience will not allow this to dissapear.


9/11 is reason for the wars, the patriot act, the excecutive order to declare marshall law. It's the reason for the tyranny we are facing now in this 21 century. It can't be ingnored. I don't believe Ron Paul is ignoring the issue. Let's give him some time. Based on what his message is I think it will only be a matter of time once he is office that the investigation of 9/11 will be reopened.


Do me a favor, ignore the 9-11 issue as regards RP
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No, I will NOT do you a favor as regards this. Don't ask me something like that ever again and expect me to agree with you. Thousands (world over) dead as a direct result of 9/11, the world completely changed as a result of 9/11 -- and YOU want me to ignore what's at the heart and soul of 9/11 as it comes to our next President // get serious. And I mean that, sincerely.

I want a new investigation. I'm an American citizen that feels that 9/11 was wrong on many levels. I won't ignore that in any shape or fashion. Never.


I don't intend to say much more on this subject // I want to believe in Ron Paul, his stated goals seem the right direction // It takes us away from the evil presently in control, and I want to get away from that, as nearly everyone of us do.

I believe Ron Paul is the best candidate for 2008 // I say that even if his "Absolutely Not!" remains firm in his own personal belief. Perhaps on this one subject (as major as it is) he is simply not yet fully awake. But he obviosuly is on many other important subject // money matters, foreign investments and entanglements, the war -- those are all good topics that I believe I understand him clearly on.

I'm not so sure when it comes to 9/11. And that rightfully does need to be decided not by any one man (Ron Paul) but a collective panel with this task as their main focus. The President needs to concern himself with the overall of everything. I can't let 9/11 go in that regard because it would be part of that everything, and I would hope he wakes up soon and realizes that as well.

I'm afraid that even with Ron Paul as our next President (good as that would truly sincerely be for us) if he does not pursue that panel and a relook into 9/11 -- He will be excusing the gangsters that did 9/11 and it will disappear into time and be forgotten as we focus more on TV celebs, etc. This is truly too important to be forgotten.

We all know that Ron Paul does not support impeachment of Bush and/or Cheney -- We KNOW this without a shadow of any doubt simply because he has not signed on as a supporter of same in Congress. That's sad but true. And he has stated his perspective on this subject quite clearly when asked if he supports such cause -- his answer is NO he does not.

Our best choice yet he comes with a major shortfall -- He doesn't believe 9/11 to be an inside job. Somehow he needs to be awake to this, fully awake; it will give him better ground for which to stand and fight against the crumb bums running the show. He needs to be fully aware of things like many of us are. He might very well be too close to the forest to see the trees.

He needs to become aware (awake) tro make him a better contender for the position he seeks. He's up against some pretty hard-hitting competition with some equally hard-hitting backing (the folks that pulled off 9/11) // You can't go into battle only half-prepared. Not sure what Sun Tsu had to say about that, but bet it was close.

My continuing thoughts.


Where has he said he intends on an unbiased thorough honest relook into 9/11? That is super important to me -- and to EVERYONE out there in the USA that supports Ron Paul. Where?
jbrid1138 | 07.25.07 - 6:11 am | #

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Do me a favor, ignore the 9-11 issue as regards RP
If for no other reason (for lack of a better argument)
He is the least of all evils running for prez......
He's for the constitution and for dealing with the Fed Reserve.
Ignore the 9-11 issue with him, let's get him elected first.........


A COLD SHOWER

R. Paul, honest . dedicted, and alive. If this man admits to 911 being orchestrated by factions in this goverment. He will be digging his grave, along with any hope at all of election. (I understand those who are dissapointed by his denial.)

Money.- Not votes is the fuel of past elections, if money is not a sure bet rigged elections are.
Public exposure requires money, remember the silent majority, they see, they hear, they beleive, the tube, and the news media, money$$

Unfortunetly Americans, again the S. majority will not react untill they get hit in the head with a 2 x 4.( I mean to say when it effects their lives personaly.) Most are still in the bubble syndrome, controlled that is. You are not programed,nor lethargic, nor uncaring, in short you on board have conceince and seek a moral solution. It may hurt when you think,( realitys downside) but you bear the pain, the truth being you aim, and your freedoms. and this land.

Thirty years ago, vietnam was the issue, it took mass demonstrations and ten years to stop. 60,000 of Americans sons died, and four million Vietnamise innocent civilians.

I dream of a land of freedom, moraliy, integrity, and honor. I would fight for this land. I would give what is left of my time on earth to see the next generation inherit this dream.
Do not ever resist, nor divide.

Then too we have the Super patriots, those who wave their flags, beat their chest, scream for more bombs and invasion, and have no concept of our constitutional base. Good SS prospects for the profilers.


(snip)
but dont start attacking him now man
also dont think that all our apples need to be in his cart
he is not Christ
hes just ron paul
do for him the same you'd do for peter or paul
they werent perfect
but they kept trying
we give them the benefit of the doubt
give ron paul the benefit of the doubt
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My feels also, that's why I have related to your earlier comments. But this --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h?v=cfdq6hoe- XY

Damn! I'm not so sure. Not attacking the man. Just reevaluating my deep seated feelings.

Where has he said he intends on an unbiased thorough honest relook into 9/11? That is super important to me -- and to EVERYONE out there in the USA that supports Ron Paul. Where?


i am not the link man
im out of time allready
gottas go to work at 4am
but i have watched his speaking on the house floor
about patriotism
about winning wars
about all kinds of stuff
it may not be his job from his current position to start fighting the 911 fight
the links are this
give him the benefit of the doubt
he has to follow the "official line" until the same thing happens like juliani did
juliani mispoke
and ron paul used our own intel to debunk him bad
so he is smarter than you think
he will bait the hook
he will duck and weave
he will play coy
and then when some dumbass makes a stupid move
he will use the official line to real them in on their own stupidity and lies
let him stay on his own track
but dont start attacking him now man
also dont think that all our apples need to be in his cart
he is not Christ
hes just ron paul
do for him the same you'd do for peter or paul
they werent perfect
but they kept trying
we give them the benefit of the doubt
give ron paul the benefit of the doubt
then keep the pressure on the other 99% of our job in every other area
we can do what he cannot
we can keep the pressure on high for 911 truth
let him do what he has to do to win the presidency
then we will meet in the3 middle
and he can re-write a bunch of executive orders restoring our republic


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h?v=cfdq6hoe- XY


Still only words, but I understand -- but I'm not going to allow myself to fall completely asleep on something like this // that's the way it was before, believing in anything our government wanted us to believe // always trying to make excuses for their behavior -- even going to war -- even things more closely related to 9/11 that truly didn't make a lick of sense, even back then. But I'm not giving up complete hope yet -- I want somebody to SHOW ME this is only a trick. SHOW ME or I might seriously begin thinking otherwise. That's just me.

Why couldn't he have changed the subject, the way trained politicans do // the man has many years of this type experience. Why not say for sure that he intends on a new investigation into 9/11 and leave it at that. Saying "Absolutely Not!" came waaay too quick in response, or so I think.


J
I TOTALLY AM (ON ONE HAND) FEELING THE SAME WAY
sorry caps on
but im not going to freak out on ron paul
none of the other dumbasses have a truth bone in them
look at the body of what ron has said for twenty years
he knows what is going on
that doesnt mean he has the latitude to do anything he wants
"he is not the president yet!"
so i go at ron paul like anything else
i support him not for his perfection
i support him because he is the best right now
he can say whatever he needs to say
im not going to attack him
or stop supporting the things he is on track for
911 is a cluster bomb
he touches it
and all the other stuff explodes into unrecognizable dung cheeze
he would be crucified in one hour
they will probably allready have to snuff him anyway
why add fuel to their satanic fire
everybody has a job to do, remember remember


SHOW ME, please -- link appropriate, not just words, that won't do it.

Repeating myself here: The very subject is at the heart of our problem (i.e., 9/11 being an inside job) -- it is the very HEART & SOUL of what is wrong with this place in time (history) as regards our government // Think Bush; think Cheney; think Rumsfeld; think WTC; think Pentagon; think 19-Arabs; think prior knowledge; think stand down; think controlled demolitions; THINK.

Absolutely Not!" gives me true concern.


nobody is soley resting on ron paul to save us
ron paul is 1% of the truth equation
the other 99% is God, Gutz and Gunz in every other area of life
vote for ron paul
support ron paul
rally for ron paul
but keep at all the other things in every breath you have left until the end
tell people about Jesus and Salvation
fight the good fight of faith
stand against the whiles of the devil
resist tyranny
help widows and orphans
champion the poor, the innocent, and the afflicted
help our troops come home NOW
death to the NWO "one step at a time"
long live the republic
and what it stands for in our hearts
NOT THE COUNCIL OF 13
FRUCK THE COUNCIL OF 13
ESPECIALLY THE EMPTY CHAIL MRUTHRA FRUCKA
HE CAN GO TO HELL WHERE HE BELONGS
GET BEHIND ME SATAN


BALDMANACE -- We have agreed on many things. Not sure about this one. Want to believe everything you say -- but that Loose Change stuff I wrote about earlier keeps bothering me // that stuff about Congress and Impeachment. Look at what they've done (or didn't do).

I want to believe Ron Paul is one smark cookie // just making sure he remains alive and healthy and wise. Upsetting the wrong people might not be a wise move for sure. But there is still something else as regards this.

Even you said he intends to get to the bottom of 9/11 and supports a new investigation. This is what has been bothering me // when asked about a new investigation (earlier interview, somewhere, would have to go in search of it again) he said NO, don't see it necessary. It was confused inside comments made regarding conspiracies and the murder of JFK, but the new investigation was a direct response to 9/11.

Now this.

Show me where my concerns are really the wrong direction, please. I'm asking you to SHOW ME, give me a link, rekindle my hope in Ron Paul. Seriously. Thanks.


Ron Paul should come out and say he believes 9/11 was an inside job. Then someone can stick a fork in him, because he'll be done. President Rudy? Well at least he KNOWS 9/11 was an inside job. So let's not get ahead of ourselves. If we even get to vote again it will be a miracle. Get Ron Paul in the white house, then move for a new investigation. One step at a time, if GWB and Cheney let us.


listen here bout ron paul
he may be the smartest man alive
he may be the antichrist
but one thing he is not
is stupider than the bush regime

he will say what he has to say
he cannot come off on the sideways track
what he has said
is that he definitely wants to get to the bottom of the 911 mess
he is all for a new investigation
hes playing political coy
it is the only way he can swindle the evil bastards into getting trapped by their own stupid double think


C'mon Tim.

Ron is just playing stupid. He knows what is going on. And he also knows that the media is swimming around like vultures waiting to devour his candidacy.....
Mr Thought Crime | 07.25.07 - 2:22 am |
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Found this earlier reply to Ron Paul and as regards his reply of "Absolutely Not!" when asked if he believed 9/11 to be an inside job.

Very discouraging, folks. Say what you will in defense of his words -- but -- something tells me 'reevaluate' might not be a bad idea. And quick.

The very subject is at the heart of our problem (i.e., 9/11 being an inside job) -- it is the very HEART & SOUL of what is wrong with this place in time (history) as regards our government // Think Bush; think Cheney; think Rumsfeld; think WTC; think Pentagon; think 19-Arabs; think prior knowledge; think stand down; think controlled demolitions; THINK.

Absolutely Not!" gives me true concern.

I want to say this too, in another forum (Loose Change) some well-intentioned members just couldn't face the reality of what was said by the newly elected Congress when it came to impeachment of Bush, et all -- they went as far as defending the Congress, saying they are just being wise in their judgements; that they (Congress) didn't want to upset the apple cart by 'mentioning' impeachment, especially since they had only just begun their tenture -- that the day was just around the corner, however.

Didn't happen did it -- not yet, guess it's still around the corner. I suppose saying it's not on the table was just a trick // that they actually still intend on doing something, they're just waiting for the right time. Wake up, fools. See this for what it is, I say.

"Absolutely Not!" -- has me concerned.


What.... the.... fuck.... Ron Paul doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5......_1185293237& p=1
Tim | 07.25.07 - 12:31 am |
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Yeah, I was afraid that might be the way it is -- something in what he didn't say when answering a question a few weeks ago.

When asked if he believes the government was involved in 9/11 and he says 'Absolutely not!" -- that is true reason for concern, folks.

I've supported Ron Paul ($$), but not much, but still, and my intent was (is) to vote for him come 2008. But how can he NOT believe 9/11 was an inside job? This is very upsetting, needs further evaluation. Does not compute; warning, warning, Will Robinson.

What do you folks have to say?


That's right 9-11 truther. Find the Lord Jesus Christ in your life and walk away from your sins. That is the real "NWO".


Yah, I know he has to do it this way. Smart I guess.

We're doing the best we can 911.


How many f*cking times must I say this?? Ron Paul alone can NOT STOP the NWO! Or their pure evil agenda! FACT! SO WAKE UP TO IT! Who we need running for sure is Cythnia McKinney! ONLY one in Congress with ANY BALLS on issue of 9-11 and wonderful Congressperson too!


Ah, ok, I get it now. It freaked the hell out of me at first cause of the way Dr. Paul emphatically denied believing 9/11 Truth. But now I see this is just his official position on the topic.
Tim | 07.25.07 - 2:16 am
How do you and rest know he doesn't really feel this way? We can NOT, NOT I repeat can NOT rely solely on Ron Paul to STOP these bastards! PERIOD! FACT! And what if he is a "shill" for NWO too? Anyone think of that?


I am not dreaming. It will take a miracle yes but I believe in miracles. If I do nothing I can expect as much. I am not going to sit here and die without a fight. And for the record, when my congressman gets back from Wash. I am going to speak with him because I cannot predict if he has been bought and paid for. I will be scared but I don't care anymore. I have to try.
I am also preparing to survive the system. - Kells.

There are more than one way to "Fight" as you know Kells. And God speed to your actions....

Are you preparing to survive within or (apart from) the system?


96 points?

That's just to "even" the score.....


C'mon Tim.

Ron is just playing stupid. He knows what is going on. And he also knows that the media is swimming around like vultures waiting to devour his candidacy.....


Let's put it this way Kells,

The score is 99-3 in favor of the NWO. We are getting our first string quarterback (Ron Paul) into the lineup and we have roughly 2 minutes to score 96 points. It will take more than a miracle....

It will take Jesus Christ!


Ah, ok, I get it now. It freaked the hell out of me at first cause of the way Dr. Paul emphatically denied believing 9/11 Truth. But now I see this is just his official position on the topic.


Honestly, you are better suited to get ready to leave the system altogether and attempt to survive while it implodes in on itself after a small increment of time. If we the people are the true litmus for change, then God help us. Trying to turn things around after it has gone this far this bad for this long is absolutely ludicrous. But we can dream can't we???
Mr Thought Crime | 07.24.07 - 9:36 pm
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I don't see how you or anyone else has the ability to know exactly when we will be finished as a country. Until I know differently, I will behave as though we have time. It is all I can do. I like reading and learning on this board but , I have to also DO something. Not everyone can and I know that, but I can !
I am not dreaming. It will take a miracle yes but I believe in miracles. If I do nothing I can expect as much. I am not going to sit here and die without a fight. And for the record, when my congressman gets back from Wash. I am going to speak with him because I cannot predict if he has been bought and paid for. I will be scared but I don't care anymore. I have to try.
I am also preparing to survive the system.
God help us is right.
kells | 07.25.07 - 1:10 am | #

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Don't worry.... I'll vote for Ron Paul - -

If we get the chance.

Not like it will do a hill of beans.

But it is the thought that counts.


: )


Here, I put it on You Tube.

Ron Paul denies 9/11 Truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h?v=cfdq6hoe- XY


Honestly, you are better suited to get ready to leave the system altogether and attempt to survive while it implodes in on itself after a small increment of time. If we the people are the true litmus for change, then God help us. Trying to turn things around after it has gone this far this bad for this long is absolutely ludicrous. But we can dream can't we???
Mr Thought Crime | 07.24.07 - 9:36 pm |
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God help us is the best solution and I think he would if we would ask him together with the right attitude. I don't see much hope unless He does.

I think Ron Paul has a real faith in Jesus Christ, unlike bushyboy. I have heard people pray before he begins to speak. One of many thing I like about him is that he doesn't care what people think about him and his beliefs about God or his political stand on issues. He is an honest man. I believe his faith will make him a great leader for this nation. I for one am doing all I can to help elect him.


9-11 truther | 07.25.07 - 12:54 am | #

I know they control the air we breath too, so if all doors are closed, is THERE NO WINDOW OPEN? do we loose hope, SHOULD WE USE FORCE? OR SHOULD WE USE OUR VOICES TO MAKE THEM HEAR OUR CRY TO GET 911 TRUTH OUT? if they are not guilty why do they fear the truth? all who support bush still are all guilty of war crimes accomplice in the lies of 911, COWARDS.


Honestly, you are better suited to get ready to leave the system altogether and attempt to survive while it implodes in on itself after a small increment of time. If we the people are the true litmus for change, then God help us. Trying to turn things around after it has gone this far this bad for this long is absolutely ludicrous. But we can dream can't we???
Mr Thought Crime | 07.24.07 - 9:36 pm
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I don't see how you or anyone else has the ability to know exactly when we will be finished as a country. Until I know differently, I will behave as though we have time. It is all I can do. I like reading and learning on this board but , I have to also DO something. Not everyone can and I know that, but I can !
I am not dreaming. It will take a miracle yes but I believe in miracles. If I do nothing I can expect as much. I am not going to sit here and die without a fight. And for the record, when my congressman gets back from Wash. I am going to speak with him because I cannot predict if he has been bought and paid for. I will be scared but I don't care anymore. I have to try.
I am also preparing to survive the system.
God help us is right.


Here, you can download it from this site. I could only extract an flv file. So I hope you have the codec installed for flv or a player that can play flv.

Ron Paul denies 9/11 Truth
http://upload2.net/page/ download...+Truth.flv.html


Yah, let me download it and post up somewhere else.


What.... the.... fuck.... Ron Paul doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5......_1185293237& p=1
Tim | 07.25.07 - 12:31 am | #

Tim,
Are you sure about that?
I cant get audio from liveleak!!!


Natasha, Earth to Natasha, "educate fast the public about the lies, get the media to bring the truth out" What do you think we in 9-11 truth movement have been trying to do for years now? And getting the MSMedia to bring truthout will NEVER HAPPEN! BECAUSE MSMedia is in bed with THEM! And owned BY them too! And in part they also own and control the "left gatekeeper's" TOO!


I salute you! You are dead on. Expect the end of America by '09.
Mr Thought Crime | 07.24.07 - 9:13 pm
And What do you suggest to stop the end of America? What? What I think we need is an out and out revolution and a worldwide one too! How can we save America from these Motherfucking, treasonous, mass murdering traitors in BOTH parties? And YES, Dem's are guilty too for some of them I know KNOWS 9-11 was an inside job yet do nothing to bring bastards to justice over it! Hence, are accomplacies in 9-11 by NOT helping get to truth!


someone has to make the first step towards the revolution, who has the power more, It can start from europe to canada and so on, we must organize, educate fast the public about the lies, get the media to bring the truth out, make OUR VOICES SCREAMS HEARD WORLDWIDE, the first step is the hardest, if u HAD ENOUGH OF THIS GAME, U MUST SAY UR VOICE LOUDLY, GET THE ATTENTION TO THE MEDIA, NO MATTER WHAT, MAKE THEM HEAR YOU LOUD. Good luck to all of us, as we all needed. use YOUTUBE IS THE BEST TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT. GET BUSY


Natasha | 07.24.07 - 11:54 pm
Your soo right! We DO need a worldwide revolution to rid not only America but world of pure evil New World Order and the faster the better! Only HOW? How do we get the whole world to revolt?


What's up with the punk reference??
Mr Thought Crime | 07.24.07 - 9:21 pm |
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I dont really consider you punks ! Just wanted to grab your attention MTC.


What.... the.... fuck.... Ron Paul doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5..._1185293237& p=1


Americans are placing the future of their children in the hands of sadistic, parrasitic, criminal, Elite physcotics.May they drown for all eternity in the lakes of blood they have spilled.
chris jones | 07.24.07 - 6:50 pm | #

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I second that Brother CJ,
Amen!!!

I am Ready America, I will Defend America with all my Brothers & Sisters, Shoulder to Shoulder we will Rise & Defeat the Evil Empire on American Soil With God as our Commander!!!
We Will Fight with God at Our Side!
This is It! Stand NOW & Attack The Evil Ones!
You All have the Power! Just DO IT!
Stop putting your Hopes in the NWO Jar!
The NWO have Rigged the Game so no matter What they Win!
Vote all you want & it will change nothing!
The Game is Rigged!

The power is in You All to Stop them NOW!
Stop playing the NWO Game of being Pawns for the NWO Chess Game, the elections are always RIGGED FOR THE NWO!
Take their Laws & Shove them up All their Evil Assholes!
Stand Strong & be Clever, Out Smart the evil Rats! bait them & trap them! Attack NOW!
Time has come to Get Real with these Evil bastards!
So what are you all waiting for? the death of America , you & your families maybe?
NO WAY!!! come on Lets Rise NOW!
I'm Ready are You?
God Bless You All to Victory! Amen!


living room when I see one
Sees Things | 07.24.07 - 11:36 pm |
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: )


BUSH IS NOT WELCOMED IN CANADA. SHAME ON U HARPER. SHAME ON ALL CANADIANS IF THEY ACCEPT THIS COMEDY TO CONTINUE, WE HAVE A FOX AS A LEADER, HE IS NOTHING BUT a FOLLOWER, A COPY OF BUSH, SECRETLY PLAYING HIS PLANS, forget the media, they are similar to yours in the usa, all controlled to chear the leader even when the leader is nothing but a liar and a war criminal. DRUMS OF REVOLUTION WAKE UP. enough of this stupid bloody painful comedy. seriously


WE seriously need a worldwide revolution, to clean our world from those pathetic war criminals. it is become A LUNATIC CRAZY NOT A JOKE.
Natasha | 07.24.07 - 11:54 pm | #

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yes exactly, it IS global and needs to be handled globally all at once.


I hate this silence in canada, bush is coming to quebec, he is wanted for war crimes in canada, there is a case against him here, what happen to that case against bush. As for Harper, I didnt not vote for him, he does not represent me, a war criminal with another war criminal oh great, Nazi leaders are uniting, oh wow, how shameful, how disgusting, SAY NO TO BUSH, DEMONSTRATE PEOPLE WHAT IS WRONG WITH U, BREAK THAT SHIT SILENCE, wake up the people in every nation, enough with those criminals travelling everywhere, free, they should be LOCKED BEHIND BARS NOW. WE seriously need a worldwide revolution, to clean our world from those pathetic war criminals. it is become A LUNATIC CRAZY NOT A JOKE.


Allright you punks listen up and listen good: ...
sincerely ,
kells | 07.24.07 - 5:52 pm | #

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I know an invitation to chase kells around the living room when I see one


http://apfn.net/apfn/DU.htm
DU web site.
There are videos and a LOT of information on DU.
Anyone who says that DU is not being used or that it is not dangerous, simple is not informed.


Army made video warning about dangers of depleted uranium but never showed it to troops
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/du_2007.htm


Soldiers test positive to DU
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/ du_au...u_australia.htm


Alex' show is working tonight, for those that couldn't get it today............from 9-12 on the internet


http://www.utah911truth.com/
good web site.


Where'd you put the other 3000 rounds of 50 BMG match ammo, my barrel finally cooled off, I'm out again..........


http://video.google.com/ videopla...183141197207653
911 Coincidence Theory
1 hr 47 min - Jan 16, 2007
_
I have never seen this documentary.
If you are completely new to 9/11 "alternative theories" or just curious about why so many people question the official account, this is a good place to start. This presentation is not sexy or flashy but the information is meticulously presented and cited in detail.


http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=0

kt | 07.24.07 - 10:33 pm | #
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You must think we are retarded, or you are.
Depleted Uranium
Dr. Doug Rokke.
This my friend is what the truth really is.


kt | 07.24.07 - 10:33 pm | #
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You must think we are retarded, or you are.
Depleted Uranium
Dr. Doug Rokke.
This my friend is what the truth really is.


I have talked with a half dozen Iraqis who were very anti-Saddam while living in Iraq. Four of them are in the medical field, two of them doctors. When asked about the issue of depleted uranium from American munitions on their populace...they have commented firmly, "Even though we don't like America starting two wars in Iraq and the death they have brought and would love to have a real reason to further condemn America's war atrocities, we can honestly state that the depleted uranium stories are all false and propaganda." I state to them all of the stories about this problem and they said, "Yes, we have read them too, they are false." I asked how that could be. They replied that reporters and officials can be bought off to say anything.
kt | 07.24.07 - 10:33 pm | #
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I do not believe this shit for 10 seconds.
There are too many American's that their job to clean DU up.
You sound like a spook to me.


I have talked with a half dozen Iraqis who were very anti-Saddam while living in Iraq. Four of them are in the medical field, two of them doctors. When asked about the issue of depleted uranium from American munitions on their populace...they have commented firmly, "Even though we don't like America starting two wars in Iraq and the death they have brought and would love to have a real reason to further condemn America's war atrocities, we can honestly state that the depleted uranium stories are all false and propaganda." I state to them all of the stories about this problem and they said, "Yes, we have read them too, they are false." I asked how that could be. They replied that reporters and officials can be bought off to say anything.


On the page about the police state takeover of schools, http://www.infowars.net/ articles...0707Schools.htm , you provided a link that was described simply as a prisonplanet.com search for "school."

However, if you actually click it, it searches prisonplanet.com for both "school" and "taser."


President George W. Bush get the hell out of office you incompetent war lover.Puppet for the world bankers that promote wars and violence.

Mr BUsh the people's of the world know for what you stand for. And it isn't behind God bless you always use in your speaches people beleive you are christian and religious.

You are for evil drugs and oil control.

Empeach Bush and Cheney


Honestly, you are better suited to get ready to leave the system altogether and attempt to survive while it implodes in on itself after a small increment of time. If we the people are the true litmus for change, then God help us. Trying to turn things around after it has gone this far this bad for this long is absolutely ludicrous. But we can dream can't we???


This is what happens when you type on a small desk, reaching your fingers over the top of your Chinese food dinner.

sorry : )


excuse me... meant to say we "know" you mean "well"l....


Allright you punks listen up and listen good:
-kells

What's up with the punk reference??

We no you mean what kells, but I am cetain that Ron Paul is not the fix all. We got so many converging forces that are literally setup at a moments notice to take this country down. I would love to see time enough to get him elected. But I am certain that what the powers that be really don't want is for us to say to Hell with their laws altogether. They prefer for us to keep playing along......


So, let's get this straight. 1) In 1933, America's WAS declared into a state of emergency, which has never been rescinded. We ARE PRESENTLY in a declared state of emergency (and have been for nearly 75 years), 2) multiple paramilitary systems have been raised, readied, operating, and practicing — beginning in 1974, and 3) the president of the united States need only sign a piece of paper to END the constitutional government of the united States.

On May 9, 2007, our president signed a National Security Presidential Directive — an unconstitutional piece of paper — which gave to himself the powers of total dictatorship over the entire nation (NSPD-51) and CONgress has no say so whatsoever. Can you say "total dictatorship?"

But more to the point, the question we must ask ourselves is this: are we NOW under Martial Law? We know for a fact that our constitutional rights have been politically and bureaucratically eliminated; we know for a fact that the global government has been raised; we know for a fact that the NAU is a fast-track reality; we know for a fact that the United Nations has absconded with our traditional military (who are not coming back to the states); we know for a fact that the United Nations Agenda 21 mandates that we live, believe, think, and act according to their worldly directives; we know for a fact that the International Property Maintenance Code has silently maneuvered itself into ALL American communities — much like Eminent Domain and land trust organizations — patiently awaiting the directive to seize MOST American homes; we know for a fact that the Civilian Labor Camps are up and readied; we know for a fact that disarmament is sneaking up on us like all global-political veils; we know for a fact that a shadow dictatorship manages our 2-Party system; we know for a fact that the largest global corporations in the world buy all laws into existence, AND we know for a fact that our FEAR is translating into a completely FRACTURED resistance to all-the-above. WE are in DEEP TROUBLE, America! The whole world is in deep trouble.

It is this writer's opinion that we ARE in a passive state of Martial Law RIGHT NOW. However, once the "BIG Emergency" is called into play and strategic reality, we WILL see the EXPECTED results of our 2-Party maneuvering, which is the permanent END of OUR FREEDOM AND NATION.

And amidst all this, what do the American people do? They play the "bring our soldiers home" game or the "illegal immigration" game. They play "the debates" game and the "global warming" game. People! You cannot see the forest for the dialectic trees! Why, why, why can't you put the pieces together to see the FACTS BEFORE YOUR FACES??? America IS the sacrificial lamb! YOUR freedom is GONE! -People


I salute you! You are dead on. Expect the end of America by '09.


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Time for a little humor --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...related& search=


(snip) hello, iv been reading a lot lately on the relationships about alien mythes and stories of Atlantis (etc)
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May I recommend someone for you to check into // same subject: EDGAR CASEY


Very interesting BALDMANACE -- Thanks

Here's yet another 'nut case' giving the secret hand signal of Satan:
(Pat Robertson)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FBtEBCba3DI


hello, iv been reading a lot lately on the relationships about alien mythes and stories of Atlantis..i ve discovered that the alien myths Atlantis wasn't a small place on the earth but a hovering cloud city that stretched the globe, and there are apparently tunnels that go underground, according to this myths...and there are certain places like Arizona,based of old Indian mythes and bible references, in a lot of cultures, few in Brazilian, Mexico and other places that still have tunnles in places like spirit mountain ..or volcanoes, that link into an underground system leading down into a hollow earth.
now these tunnels would be great place to hide, survive any kind of suffice based attack is why i even bring it up. and if the legends are true they lead down to some place were the eden is spouse; and leads to other things.


The way I see it.
This is a dictatorship.
We have no congress, nor senate.
If we did Impeachment would have taken place years ago.
The Justice Department has been dimished to the point of nonfunctioning, (federaly)
Homeland security is a sham, money, influnce and a final step to control domestically.
Bush & Cheny without a doubt are sadistic & physcotic.
Americas base has been attacked and overpowered, American people with an IQ above 70 know this, so do educated people in other countires.
The news media is a puppet for the Elite.
A country who has lost its moral and integrity is without heart, therfor without soul.
Either we do nothing and submit to this dictatorship or we revolt. As it stands now, the silent majority shoose not be involved, beleive in the propaganda, or do not care. This is about to change.
Beleifs in equal justice nd equality for all, is a lie, The invasion of Iraq a blatant lie, 911 a abomination, mass murder sanntione or palneed by power seekers within this very goverment.
There is no place to run, and no place to hide, either we resist or become cannon fodder, or serfs for the elite. Time to face it.
Americans are placing the future of their children in the hands of sadistic, parrasitic, criminal, Elite physcotics.May they drown for all eternity in the lakes of blood they have spilled.


http://www.theforbiddenknowledge...wtc/ index02.htm
sane has probably allready posted this
but alex had the lt colonel on today
and the committee of 39 (bilderberg) answers to the 13 (policy committee
of which there are 12 people and one empty chair
this may be the same thing the guest was speaking of


Ron Paul 2008 Meetups on the Map -- Find one near you
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/about/


Allright you punks listen up and listen good:
I am leaving my house in an hour after working today , to drive for an hour and a quarter to attend a Ron Paul meet-up meeting. The guy that started our local meetup said " I have no plan at all. I just started it because someone had to" . The first meeting was 4 people strong . One month later , we are 50.
Half of the people in that room had never even HEARD of Alex Jones ! That means he is not the biggest promoter of Ron. People are hearing about it from other sources and word of mouth.
You are in front of your computers right now. I want you to type in " ron paul meetup , your town , your state " and get yourself involved , because this window is only open for a little while. In 2 weeks here in NYS it will be too late for people to switch from democrat to republican so they can vote in the primaries. ITs different state to state probably. If he doesnt get on the ballot, its all over anyway. What do we have to lose?
I gave out flyers in a parking lot after the last meeting and you should see the hope in their faces when you tell them what Ron Paul believes in. What if we can make this happen ? This is a patriot's dream come true. We will never have a shot like this again.
I never hassle people to do anything usually. But this window is so small and what if we are able to pull off a freaking miracle here ?
We need you. We need all of us together to get it done. I have never seen so many people so eager to get something done in one place as at the meetup. Go. You will remember what its like to have hope.
Try it , and then come back and tell us what happened at your meetup so we can share the best ideas in the shortest amount of time.
Thanks for reading this through.
sincerely ,


As an American Patriot, I spit on the Pakistan's army for aiding and abetting GW Bush before, during and after 9/11! It is my solemn duty to kill any pakistan official on the spot for conspiring to kill over 3000 americans on 9/11. May God have mercy on your souls.....


Empeach Bush and Chenney and fire Pelosi fast

Pelosi is another evil puppet controled by the evil minds behind the Bush admin wrong doings

Vote Ron Paul for next President he is the man that can change this evil government around.

Empeach GWBush and his evil supporters like Cheney and Rice and other military evil war lovers


Bot 1 collapses. I held it's little bot head in my hands. "You will not have died in vain". (working on zero point energy project) Now I present, for your approval, son of bot 1.


scrub-woman=mop, broom, bucket, scrub brush. mostly cleans floors, but bathrooms can be done too


“I have done nothing wrong, have always played by the rules of the German courts, have continued paying child support, but have not seen my children in almost six years. Physical and psychological bonds have been severed between two children and a father who loves them.” (Gebhard, 2000).





Today’s internationally abducted children find themselves searching for answers and some sense of identity in their adult years. Many of the Lebensborn children are now grandparents and a new generation of lost children are being harvested by Germany.


“As adults, many victims of bitter custody battles who had been permanently removed from a target parent, whisked away to a new town and given a new identity, still long to be reunited with the lost parent. The loss cannot be undone. Childhood cannot be recaptured. Gone forever is that sense of history, intimacy, lost input of values and morals, self-awareness through knowing one’s beginnings, love, contact with extended family, and much more. Virtually no child possesses the ability to protect him-or herself against such an undignified and total loss”. (Clawar & Rivlin, p.105).


Germany is a signatory to the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. This international treaty sets forth ideals regarding the basic rights of children. This treaty addresses issues of parental abduction and the right of every child to know their parent and extended family members. It provides for the “ethnic” protection of children and for children and parents to have access to each without fear of reprisal from governments. The ideals and beliefs that children have rights and are entitled to certain protection are the to be ensured by the signatory country.


Germany has not only failed in implementing the Hague Convention, but has grossly infringed on the basic rights of the child as defined in the Child’s Rights Convention by arguing the “best interests of the child” resembling many of the Lebensborn ideals, polices and practices. There is no room in the civilized world for the barbaric and inhuman practices against children to continue, regardless of how well disguised under the auspices of “best interests of the child”, in programs such as the Lebensborn or refusing to return children because they have been “Germanized”. The German social and welfare attitudes based in the Lebensborn ideology have failed to recognize abduction and denial of access as abuse, just as the SS refused to consider the State ordering of child abduction to be “Crimes Against Humanity”. The current practice of German authorities in the handling of the vast majority of children abducted to Germany, not only of children from American, but also from countries like France, likewise are not handled nor viewed as child abuse. A closer look at the attitudes that continue to influence the German system, supporting abduction and Germanization, may provide a basis for restructuring that system so that it falls within the acceptable western norm in regards to the handling of children’s issues.


Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That Congress urges--


(1) all contracting parties to the Hague Convention, particularly European civil law countries that consistently violate the Hague Convention such as Austria, Germany and Sweden, to comply fully with both the letter and spirit of their international legal obligations under the Convention;


(2) all contracting parties to the Hague Convention to ensure their compliance with the Hague Convention by enacting effective implementing legislation and educating their judicial and law enforcement authorities;


(3) all contracting parties to the Hague Convention to honor their commitments and return abducted or wrongfully retained children to their place of habitual residence without reaching the merits of any underlying custody dispute and ensure parental access rights by removing obstacles to the exercise of such rights;


(4) the Secretary of State to disseminate to all Federal and State courts the Department of State's annual report to Congress on Hague Convention compliance and related matters; and


(5) each contracting party to the Hague Convention to further educate its central authority and local law enforcement authorities regarding the Hague Convention, the severity of the problem of international child abduction, and the need for immediate action when a parent of an abducted child seeks their assistance.


“Germanization” is another term for programming [brainwashing] a child to acclimate to the German culture, giving preference to those things that are German, whilst divorcing themselves from those things not considered German, thus retarding any sense of ethnicity outside that which is German. In Dr. Nancy Faulkner’s presentation to the United Nations, Human Rights Commission, 1999, Parental Child Abduction is Child Abuse, she writes, “Children who have been psychologically violated and maltreated through the act of abduction are more likely to exhibit a variety of psychological and social handicaps. Faulkner’s seventeen page report outlines the emotional and psychological effects that abduction can have on children, including alienation.


“‘Brainwashing’ and ’programming’ are terms used more and more frequently by experts of parental child abduction. These terms may initially offend or alienate the reader who is not familiar with Parental Alienation and abduction dynamics. ‘Brainwashing’ and ‘programming’—or changing a child’s belief systems,--may be intentional, or, it may be the unintentional process of a parent imposing their belief systems on the child through an extended period of inadvertent repetition.”. (Faulkner,1999).


In the process of “Germanizing” American abducted children, different forms of alienation, and programming [brainwashing] are being used to program any sense of being American out of them.


“Naomi (now 12) exhibits the mentality of a hostage. She is afraid to talk to me freely on the phone in her father's presence. In CA she was an excellent student, but in Germany she barely passed to the next grade level. Her teacher for the previous two years commented on her report card, "she cannot formulate her own independent ideas", contradicting the German Youth Authority and judges who said, she was mature and capable of forming her own opinions. She told us, she has difficulties concentrating in school.” (Gerbatsch-Bornemisza, 2000).


Records indicate that American children have had their names changed by the abductor. The vast majority of abducted children are forbidden to contact their parents in the United States.


“…it will be 3 years since I have seen my children or spoken with them. The German authorities refuse to tell me where they are.” (Marquette, 2000).


Abducted American children are taught to speak German, forgetting English. Many abducted children under the Lebensborn program were not returned after the war because they had become too “Germanized”, so is the reasoning for German authorities in not returning children abducted today.


“Daniel and Michelle now speak only German and cannot understand English. The German courts have used this language barrier as another justification for keeping them in Germany.” (Jeffreys, 2000).





“…because the children had been living in Germany for over a year now (This was due to the fact that the case was dragged on despite the requests my lawyers and I made to have the case speeded up) and because they were in German schools and adapting well, it would cause undue stress to have then moved back to the US.” (Vajko, 2000).





“A German court ruled in 1995 that the children had bonded with the foster family and would suffer if they were returned to their father.” (CNN, 2000).


Economic incentives also exist today for German abductors. German courts are issuing orders for American parents to pay child support for their illegally kidnapped child whom they are denied access to. German foster care families receive money from the German government on a monthly basis. The amount of money these foster care families receive is dependent on the number of children they have taken in.


“Wehs, who have six foster children and get paid the equivalent of $1,000 a month for each…” (Jeffreys, 2000).


The effects of the Nuremberg laws as the Lebensborn policies put into place during the Nazi era in regards to the roles and responsibility of family members are still being felt. It may be these, the social and welfare policies and practices of Germany, that are retarding the return of internationally abducted children, rather than the Hague Treaty, citing failure of the Hague as one of the casualties of social welfare policies and practices. Allegations against Germany in its non-return policy of abducted children come not only from the United States,[ but also France].


“I informed him [German Judge] that the "new" German law stated that I had unquestionable rights to visitation. The judge told me that he "did not believe in the new law". (Gebhard,2000).


The current practice of those that have abducted children to Germany as well as the systems that support and enable these abductions, i.e. German social welfare services and German child psychologists are ‘Germanized’ using a variety of techniques. They include:


1. The forced separation from family


2. Denial of access to family


3. Forced separation from friends


4. Forced separation from community


5. Restrictions on speaking any language but German


6. Children being often told their parents were dead, did not want them or they were unfit


7. Children being told that the German way was superior than their own culture


8. Children being denied knowledge of their past


9. German abductors being eligible for economic incentives from German government.


Concern over abduction complaints regarding Germany, the governments of both France and the United States have resulted in meetings with German authorities in an attempt to remedy the problem. There was no question that the complaints by brokenhearted parents were true. Children were being abducted to Germany and German authorities were not returning them to their parents as per the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction. Even with the Presidents of both the United States and Germany meeting and discussing the problem, little has been accomplished except promised visitation to a selected few cases. The United States Congress responded to allegations of German non-compliance by urging compliance to the Hague.


“Whereas some contracting states, for example Germany, routinely invoke Article 13 as a justification for non-return, rather than resorting to it in a small number of wholly exceptional cases …[H. Con. Res. 293].





The House passed Congressional Resolution naming Germany as one of the countries in violation of the Hague treaty in regards to their refusal to return American children, or even ensure access between the children and the American parent.


Abductions from The United States of America


Today, children are still being abducted to Germany from other countries. While these abductions are no longer ordered by the German government, German practice in regards to the return of these children as well as “germanizing” them, appear to find more similarity in the Lebensborn Program than in the Hague Treaty, an International treaty providing language that provides for the return of children that have been illegally abducted to Germany. The Hague Treaty is not the only treaty which Germany has ratified in regards to the treatment of children.


As a signatory to the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, obligations towards recognition of a child’s rights as well as obligations towards to signatory state to implement policies and resources that would ensure those rights, particularly in regards to parental abduction, have been ignored. While the Child’s Rights Convention is not provide for any mechanism by which individual grievances can be heard, it does recognize that children are deserving of special consideration and protection. In regards to parental abduction, the Rights of the Child Convention states that signatories, at the highest level, will ensure these rights:


1. The right to know and be cared for by his or her parents.


2. The right of the child to preserve his or her identity, including nationality, name and family relations as recognized by law without unlawful interference.


3. Where a child is illegally deprived of some or all of the elements of his or her identity, States Parties shall provide appropriate assistance and protection, with a view to speedily re-establishing his or her identity.


4. Ensure that a child shall not be separated from his or her parents against their will


5. Respect the right of the child who is separated from one or both parents to maintain personal relations and direct contact with both parents on a regular basis


6. In accordance with the obligation of States Parties under article 9, paragraph 1, applications by a child or his or her parents to enter or leave a State Party for the purpose of family reunification shall be dealt with by States Parties in a positive, humane and expeditious manner. States Parties shall further ensure that the submission of such a request shall entail no adverse consequences for the applicants and for the members of their family.


7. A child whose parents reside in different States shall have the right to maintain on a regular basis, save in exceptional circumstances personal relations and direct contacts with both parents.


8. Respect the right of the child and his or her parents to leave any country, including their own, and to enter their own country.


9. States Parties shall take measures to combat the illicit transfer and non-return of children abroad.


10. shall respect the rights and duties of the parents and, when applicable, legal guardians, to provide direction to the child in the exercise of his or her right in a manner consistent with the evolving capacities of the child


11. No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honor and reputation.


12. Shall use their best efforts to ensure recognition of the principle that both parents have common responsibilities for the upbringing and development of the child


13. Measures to protect the child from all forms of physical or mental violence, injury or abuse, neglect or negligent treatment, maltreatment or exploitation, including sexual abuse, while in the care of parent(s), legal guardian(s) or any other person who has the care of the child.


14. When considering solutions, due regard shall be paid to the desirability of continuity in a child's upbringing and to the child's ethnic, religious, cultural and linguistic background


15. States Parties shall take all appropriate measures to promote physical and psychological recovery and social reintegration of a child victim of: any form of neglect, exploitation, or abuse; torture or any other form of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment; or armed conflicts. Such recovery and reintegration shall take place in an environment which fosters the health, self-respect and dignity of the child.


The underlying theme to all the right dues to a child is “in the child’s best interest”. It is in the context that the German social Welfare system appears to define a child’s best interest as that of being “German”, even to the extent of “Germanizing” the child as per the Lebensborn policy. It is under the theory of “best interest of the child” that German psychologist, family courts and social welfare services, apply policies and practice in direct violation of both The Hague Convention and the Rights of the Child Treaty. German social welfare does not recognize child abduction as child abuse, and therefore, the perpetrators are often rewarded and protected by the German system, further enabling the abuse of the child. German social welfare system also does not recognize reunification, deferring rather to denial of access in the event a child has been brainwashed or “Germanized” as seen in many of the Lebensborn cases.


"Their view of the child's welfare is such -- and it's so distorted -- that there's no way they can conceive of a child ever being better off in any country outside of Germany," Feinerman said. [Law professor]. (CNN, 2000).


The Child Victims


The effects of the Lebensborn program are evident more than half a century later as the children that were products of this program, defined in the Nuremberg Trails as crimes against humanity, struggle for identity. Several groups exist in Europe for Lebensborn children to cope with the decades of uncertainty and their search for identity.


“The personal histories of the children of Lebensborn who ended up in East Germany were hidden for decades by the authorities of that postwar Communist state. .. says Wilhelm Lenz, head of the department for documents from the Third Reich. "Until recently, many didn't know or suspect they were Lebensborn children." (Williams, 2000).




"Before the change (in 1989), no one ever talked about the past," says Harzendorf, who still lives barely half a mile from the orphanage. "All my foster mother ever told me was that I didn't have any parents anymore and I was coming to live with her. She was a good person and would never have imagined such things (as Lebensborn) ever existed." (Williams, 2000).




“After the war, many of the Lebensborn children grew up scorned as Nazi progeny and tormented by dark uncertainties about their origins." (Hammer, 2000).




“Having rejected our origins, we have ended up as refugees in our own country. The result is that most of us don't know other NS children but our own brothers and sisters. .. we NS children have fought a battle lasting forty-five years more than our parents' war. This one lasted only five years. We have been in continuous struggle with society, with our parents and with ourselves." (Klüwer , 2000).


Lebensborn: State Ordered International Child Abduction


The encouragement of producing Aryan children lead to the lebensborn program. This program not only encouraged Aryan women to have children, but also rewarded those efforts through economic incentive. Lebensborn homes were set up in Germany and occupied countries for the benefit of Aryan mothers to live during their pregnancy and delivery. The demand for children brought with it a change in moral code regarding unwed mothers. Unwed mothers were elevated to the status of the married woman, including the ability to use Mrs. In front of their name. These children were often adopted out or housed in orphanages. Nazi SS men were ordered to father children with Aryan women. It has been suggested by John Hooper, that economic incentives offered to those women prompted some into compliance at a time when the economy was in a disastrous state.


“Though portrayed as a way of getting young Nazi to “, mate for the fatherland”, the Lebensborn project had some characteristics of a welfare scheme for single mothers.” (Hooper, 1999).


While many Aryan children were being conceived and born under the Lebensborn program, authorities were not satisfied with the rate of population increase of Aryan children and expanded the Lebensborn program. Himmler (1943) ordered the international kidnapping of children from those countries they had conquered. In a speech to the SS Group leaders in Poznan, Himmler ordered those children meeting racial qualifications be abducted from families in conquered countries, particularly Poland. These children were placed with German families in Germany.


“Such good blood of our own kind as there may be among the nations we shall acquire for ourselves, if necessary by taking away the children and bringing them up among us.” (Himmler, Oct ,1943)


The children abducted under the policy and programs of the Third Reich, specifically the SS, fell under the Lebensborn program. The Intent was to “Germanize” these abducted children. German authorities believed that younger children would acclimate easier than did older children. As such, age limits were discussed in regards to those children that should be kidnapped.


“Dear comrade Brandt, Concerning the matter "children of executed Czechs" I wish to reply to your letter as directed to SS-Lieutenant General Frank, date 6 February of this year, diary index No. 26/2/44 g Bra/H, that the conversation between SS-Lieutenant General Frank and SS Colonel Sollmann took place on 2 July of last year in Prague. Colonel Sollmann stated during this conversation that racially valuable children up to six years would be considered eligible by the "Lebensborn"... It was intended, to have children up to six years and suitable for Germanization brought into German families through the "Lebensborn"... It is intended to have the racially acceptable elements of the collectively housed children transferred through the "Lebensborn" to German families or to a children's home whereas the children over 16 years are to be sent to a concentration camp. “ (the Minister of State for the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, 1944).


Abducted children taken into the Lebensborn program were systematically “Germanized” by programming [brainwashing] the child into what the authorities expected him or her to be. Names were changed and they were encouraged not to speak any language other than German. The children were not allowed to contact their families and were often told that their families no longer existed or that their families did not want them.


“Thousands of children were transferred to the "Lebensborn" centers in order to be "Germanized". In these centers, everything was done to force the children to reject and forget their birth parents. As an example, the SS nurses tried to persuade the children that they were deliberately abandoned by their parents. The children who refused the Nazi education were often beaten.” (JSOURCE, 2000).


While the Actual numbers of children internationally abducted through the Lebensobrn program are unknown, estimates reach as high as a quarter of a million. Ironically, even after Europe was liberated, many German families refused to return the kidnapped children to their families, citing they were too ‘Germanized” to return.


“In 1946, it was estimated that more than 250,000 were kidnapped and sent by force to Germany. Only 25,000 were retrieved after the war and sent back to their family. It is known that several German families refused to give back the children they had received from the Lebensborn centers. In some cases, the children themselves refused to come back in their original family: they were victims of the Nazi propaganda and believed that they were pure Germans. It is also known that thousand of children not "good enough" to be Germanized were simply exterminated.” (Châtel & Ferree, 1997-2000).




Children abducted under the Lebensborn program that were targeted for ‘Germanization’ were programmed [brainwashed] using a variety of techniques. They included:

1. The forced separation from family

2. Denial of access to family

3. Forced separation from friends

4. Forced separation from community

5. Restrictions on speaking any language but German


6. Children were often told their parents were dead, did not want them or they were unfit

7. Children were told German way was superior than their own culture

8. Children denied knowledge of their past

9. German abductors can qualify for economic incentives from German government.


British Floods

Yet again bunkum.

The floods are due entirely to Ariel Spraying of Chem Trails. Cloud seeding & floods are now tactical strategic Political tools of the Dictatorship . It is simply distraction & diversion. We in the U.K have had no truthful U.S.A. news except David Beckham ,L.A. Galaxy , Paris Hilton & Hilary Clinton . There has been no coverage of Real Politics in the U.S.A. or any criticism of the E.U.
Gordon Brown has been in Power less than a month. We have had an E.U. coup via Blair, Two Massive Floods on two seperate weeks. A Cash for Honours corruption scandle. Each U.K. political crisis or E.U. dictatoship edict or U.S.A. Bush Cheney directives has been simply ignored.

Even though the British are liable to riot ,protest & demostrate for any reason there has been no protoest against the E.U. or Blair treason. This is despite the fact that 80% of the population do not want E.U. dictatorship. Add to this the Finger Printing of School Children which normally would produce massive civil rights protest. Yet there has been none.

What a suprise. Floods floods floods gobal warming propoganda & the Chemtrails / H.A.A.R.P. weather modification is denied or ignored. The U.K. Department D.E.F.R.A. has flatly denied the existence of CHEMTRAILS. Despite the Thousands of Photographs, Chemical Analysis Eye Witness reports & very Monsoon like weather.

We should not be shocked. After all the Ministry of Defense denied the U.F.O. phenomena for 50 years. Yet just this year released the Governments documents related to U.F.O.
Governments lie.


What is a "scrub woman"?
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A woman that White Washers Lies, IMO


What is a "scrub woman"?


Chris Jones,
Sir,you are an honorable man!Please don't assume that all here have heard your wisdom. Please don't get dis-couraged and continue to share the things you know with us!


Yes, she is a scrub-woman and not a very good one (apparently) at that.


ATTORNEY GENERAL ALBERTO R. GONZALES ANNOUNCES ARRESTS OF MORE THAN 10,000 FUGITIVES THROUGH OPERATION FALCON


WASHINGTON, DC — Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales and Ben Reyna, Director of the U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), today announced that the USMS, working closely with its federal, state and local partners, has successfully completed the largest fugitive apprehension operation in American history. Through Operation FALCON (“Federal And Local Cops Organized Nationally”), which was conducted April 4–10, 2005, Deputy U.S. Marshals and their law enforcement partners arrested a total of 10,340 fugitives and cleared more than 13,800 felony warrants.

“Operation FALCON is an excellent example of President Bush’s direction and the Justice Department’s dedication to deal both with the terrorist threat and traditional violent crime,” said Attorney General Gonzales. “This joint effort shows the commitment of our federal, state, and local partners to make our neighborhoods safer, and it has led to the highest number of arrests ever recorded for a single initiative of its kind. We will use all of our Nation’s law enforcement resources to serve the people, to pursue justice, and to make our streets and Nation safer.”

“This operation, which produced the largest number of arrests ever recorded during a single initiative, would not have been possible without the cooperation of our law enforcement partners on the federal, state, and local levels,” said Director Reyna. “Working together, we were able to take more than 10,000 fugitives off the streets, making our communities safer for everyone.”

Nearly 960 federal, state, and local agencies helped the USMS identify thousands of the nation’s most dangerous fugitives during Operation FALCON. The Marshals Service’s five regional fugitive task forces and three foreign field offices joined forces with their counterparts to put more than 3,000 law enforcement officers on the street during each day of the operation. The members of the task force prioritized for arrest those involved in homicides, sexual assaults, gang-related crimes, kidnappings, major drug offenses, crimes against children and the elderly, and unregistered sex offenders.

Operation FALCON task force members sought foreign fugitives believed to be in the United States, handled cases referred by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, and received support from the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) at the Department of Justice. INTERPOL and the State Department’s Diplomatic Security Service assisted in the investigations of persons wanted by law enforcement worldwide. Sixteen foreign and international fugitives who were arrested during Operation FALCON now face deportation or extradition proceedings.

One such fugitive arrested through Operation FALCON is a Connecticut man who was wanted in Hartford for murder and assault after shooting three individuals. While the Marshals Service, the Hartford Police Department, the Connecticut State Police, and the Connecticut Department of Probation actively pursued their investigation, the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement determined that the man had fled to Jamaica, where he had relatives. Leads were forwarded to the USMS foreign field office in Kingston, Jamaica, where Deputy U.S. Marshals, working in coordination with the Jamaica Constabulary Force, located him at his mother’s residence. The man is now being detained pending extradition.

“I applaud the achievements of every Deputy Marshal, police officer, detective, trooper, investigator, deputy sheriff, and special agent who hit the street virtually around-the-clock for seven days,” said Robert J. Finan II, the Marshals Service’s Assistant Director for Investigative Services. “Also of note is that during the course of this initiative, there were no serious incidents or serious injuries to either law enforcement officers or those who were taken into custody.”

Operation FALCON coincided with the beginning of the U.S. Department of Justice’s “National Crime Victims’ Rights Week.” During his remarks announcing the results of Operation FALCON, the Attorney General praised the efforts of the participating agencies, noting that targeting violent fugitives provides justice for the victims of those crimes and ensures safer communities. “By taking violent fugitives off the streets and putting them behind bars where they belong,” said Attorney General Gonzales, “we’ve honored the victims and made our streets safer.”

Doesn't it do your heart good to know such honorable men are working on your behalf to keep you safe from the boogiemen that will reach out from under your bed at night and take you away!


You are saying that Pelosi is a scrub woman?


I don't take questions from scrub-women like you, Sandy or "speaker" Pelosi.


You are very hard on them, citizen. Do you not hear their hearts cry out?


Have you all seen CNN's reporting on this???? It doesn't say WHY she was arrested... leaving that entirely up to the 'already-made-up-minds' of the sheep that only watch mainstream media. *which is government ran btw* It's enough to make me sick...


I just sat down here and wrote for over an hour, then i deleted it. How come, there is no need for me to tell you folks things you already know.
One thing only, I am seriously pissed off, I'm getting on in years and not very concerned about my end coming. What im concerned about is our children being dominated by these sadistic freaks, having their minds bent by propaganda and fear. thats what is breaking my cookies.
I can not stomach the though of the death and destruction this nation is commiting, nor the fact our children will not know freedom of mind, free thinking, free speach, that they will be putty in the hands of the parrasitic power. that they will be in peril of loosing their souls.
We are headed for some rough times. This nation is now a dictatorship. Our congress is wallpaper, window dresing for the masses. They betrayed our trust and their oath.
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You stand Strong with GOD no matter what Happens brother!
We must Do all we Can do & some to defeat the Evil that is Shadowing the Globe at the moment, God has a plan for Us & we Must be ready to act on GOD'S command when he calls upon those to do GOD'S will, Have FULL FAITH in GOD & put your best foot forward, there is no time to fear, there is no time to be afraid, This is the Final Stand , YES This is it!
STAND STRONG WITH GOD & WE WILL DEFEAT ALL EVIL!
THE NWO think Lucifer is GOD but Wait Until you see the TRUE POWER OF GOD & what GOD will do to these EVIL NWO BASTARDS & their False God Lucifer!
These Evil Mental Case's wont Know What Hit them , Just wait & SEE!
STAND STRONG PEOPLE OF GOD & NEVER FEAR NO MATTER WHAT!
BE STRONG IN FAITH NOW!


Hey CJ -- Looks like we got more in common than I thought. Me too, that age thing, except I'm looking to be around for at least 100 (or more) years myself. I would like that to be truly pleasant years. Only one way that's gonna happen is this nightmare goes away and we that are awake take charge and band together. There's millions of us, if that's any consolation tp you. It is to me.

I also have concerns regarding my own children (4 adult, fully grown, still asleep no matter how much I prod and push -- well, that's not entirely true, they are awake, just not wanting to fully accept like most people. Can't blame them in that regard. My grandchildrejnh (six of them) -- I want to have a life much as I have had // that means no GWB; no CLINTON; no Bohemian Grove -- and as to those false flag operations (that I had no knowledge of back then) // I want them to go away and STOP and be no more. That's the kind of thing that led us to this mess, I'm sure of it.

Gangsters thinking they could get away with anything (murder included) // and the more they did and the more they saw they could get away with it -- the more they took.

We all need to band together and use our good intentions to help fix this mess we're in. Not to become one of the terrorist // that's what they're on the verge of calling us as it is -- you're either with us or you're with the terrorist. Well, I'm personally neither of those things -- regardless of what some 'selected' person in power wants to label me. I'm a proud citizen of the United States of America, who pays my taxes on time (as illegal as they might very well be) and a veteran of 26 years of active military service. That's a hell of a lot more than many in our Congress and Executive Branch can say // Bush and Cheney wrapped together. Besides I didn't have anything to do with 9/11 and it being an inside job -- they did. They're the terrorist.


NWO only exists in a vacuum. Present alternative. Hint: Whining doesn't qualify.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07Canadians.htm
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If our citizenry allows the North American Union to come into existence, then our way of life will change drastically, for the years to come. With privatization of our resources, increased foreign ownership, and a Canadian government with less and less authority, our children and grandchildren will be come ‘North Americans’ and our quality of life will drastically decline.

The founding fathers of Canada must be rolling over in their graves.
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True, true. And what else is true is that you can just as easily change where 'Canada 'appears in the article (above) by substituting 'USA'.

The same to be said for all of us a bit further South, and our founding fathers as well.


I just sat down here and wrote for over an hour, then i delted it. How come, there is no need for me to tell you folks things you allready know.
One thing only, I am seriously pissed off, Im getting on in years and not very concerned about my end coming. What im concerned about is our children being dominated by these sadistic freaks, having their minds bent by propaganda and fear. thats what is breaking my cookies.
I can not stomach the though of the death and destruction this nation is commiting, nor the fact our children will not know freedom of mind, free thinking, free speach, that they will be putty in the hands of the parrasitic power. that they will be in peril of loosing their souls.
We are headed for some rough times. This nation is now a dictatorship. Our congress is wallpaper, window dresing for the masses. They betrayed our trust and their oath.


Scanner: Our current president signed an affidavit before he became president that he would make sure there would be no more mercury (thymerosal) put in our vaccinations. He has yet to keep his promise.
Thank you.
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.24.07 - 1:52 pm | #

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The power of the Dark-Side knows NO limit to the evil it Infects mankind with, The bad part is that Mothers & Dads that think these Vaccines with a Triple Dose of (thimerosal) in them will Save their Children from Virus Have Shit for Brains them selves!
If you tell them that These Vaccines Have the Second most Toxic & deadly metal to Uranium in the Vaccines & they are about to Inject this substance called ( thimerosal ) into their Child they say " but it is worth the risk so my Child will not get a Virus" :
You must be the most Stupid People on the Planet!
Your Child is Now a Victim Of the NWO & the NWO used Your Child as a Lab Rat & the Sad part about all this is YOU HELPED THEM DO IT TO YOUR CHILD!
YOU HELPED THE NWO DESTROY YOUR CHILDS LIFE!

Then the Child grows up & develops Autism & other Server health Issues!
& you Have Condemned You & Your Child to A life of Misery & Suffering!
How do I Know?

I work with The VICTIMS of these Vaccines!

But That's OK you Stupid Mon's & Dad's, Yes Let The Government Turn your Children into a Vegetable over night literally!

http://video.google.com/videopla...id+Ayoub% 2C+M.D

http://www.health-reports.com/au...com/ autism.html

http://www.newstarget.com/011764.html

For those of You Who have Autistic Children Because of these Vaccines or Heavy Metal Poisoning I have had Many Success in reversing the Effects of the Damage These Vaccines have Caused & here are some links to help You

Look up > Heavy Metal Nano-Detox____#472_aut
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Please let others Know about this information,
God bless


i think he got cut off cause he started talking about herbs (thats when the guy put his finger on the button) and then when he said "assets" the guy thought he was saying "asshole". the guy was rambling and should have made his point.
Tim | Homepage | 07.24.07 - 3:11 pm |
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Yeah, I thought the exact same things.

Would have liked to see how C-SPAN handled a similar caller.


Posted elsewhere in this forum --

SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE INTERRUPTED 'CHOPPY' LAST SNORE (SNORT) OF SOMEONE IN THE PROCESS OF WAKING FROM A PEACEFUL DREAM // WELCOME, CONGRESSMAN, TO THE REAL NIGHTMARE --
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...7martiallaw.htm

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Congressman Peter DeFazio (D - OR) was asked by his constituents to see what was contained within the classified portion of the White House's plan for operating the government after a terrorist attack.

Since DeFazio also sits on the Homeland Security Committee and has clearance to view classified material, the request would have appeared to be routine, but the Congressman was unceremoniously denied all access to view the documents, and the White House wouldn't even give an excuse as to why he was barred.

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"Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," DeFazio concluded.

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"I just can't believe they're going to deny a member of Congress the right of reviewing how they plan to conduct the government of the United States after a significant terrorist attack," DeFazio told the Oregonian on Friday.


i think he got cut off cause he started talking about herbs (thats when the guy put his finger on the button) and then when he said "assets" the guy thought he was saying "asshole". the guy was rambling and should have made his point.


these other issues will be completely forgotten and we will only dream of the days when we had such problems. I can't believe how many Americans are NOT WAKING UP the real issue here.///////////////////
Hi Yikes. Good póst.


Fuckers, started out to be one of his better shows. The 24/7 doesn't work for me either, not sure why, using hughesnet sattelite.
Damnit. Wanted my Alex fix today.


HENRY,

Wow, odd you should say that because I've had the same problems too AND his website keeps crashing down!!!!!!!!

Honestly though, how much longer did we all think bush was going to allow such open internet access and communication from us all. I'm certain the next thing to be taken away from us, aside our freedom, is OUR COMMUNICATION. Think about it, how many of us email often? How many of us rely heavily on our computers and the internet? How many of us are LEARNING of the truth via the internet?

I just knew that the "plug" would be pulled soon from us and one of the first to go would be Alex Jones cause he's our passionate hot blooded American speaking out loud and clear. One by one, the sites will disappear and then BAMM, all communications will stop, ALL....tv, phone, cell phone, internet, newspaper and so on.


I agree with the writer above....lack of health care is very serious but just a distraction for us all to not pay attention to our capture. The illegal alien talk, distraction.........with the north american union going into play soon, WHY BOTHER? This will soon be one melting pot of people........just a distraction. All of this talk on TV about the 2008 elections........NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. The "king" has set everything up already. Did you really think he would leave office in 18 months???? Just when the blood of thousand Americans is being poured at his feet. He's been waiting for this moment. All of these, other distractions, have you noticed have taken the focus OFF what's really going on? How close we ARE to the final stage in martial law? Health care sucks here, yes......politics suck here, yes....elections taking place, never....illegal ailens issues, won't matter very soon.

These things are all a distraction by the king and the bought out news channels. Your life has been completely controlled by the elite and it's final stage is about to hit us all sometime this summer. Which is more important to talk about........martial law and how to protect yourself and lay low..........or health care? Martial law........or the 2008 fake elections? Martial law or global warming. When martial law takes hold of us all...........these other issues will be completely forgotten and we will only dream of the days when we had such problems. I can't believe how many Americans are NOT WAKING UP the real issue here. king butthead WILL NEVER BE IMPEACHED. He is a criminal and now has a criminal administration. He cannot be stopped so prepare for this wrath and pray that God takes you quickly.

Peace!!!


Am I the only person not able to listen to Alex' show online today? It worked for 45 minutes, then did a time out. Can't get a connection with either of my computers on realplayer. Anyone else having problems??


A security company called Stratesec acquires an $8.3 million contract to help provide security at the World Trade Center. It is one of numerous contractors hired in the upgrade of security at the WTC following the 1993 bombing. Stratesec, which was formerly called Securacom, is responsible for installing the “security-description plan”—the layout of the electronic security system—at the World Trade Center. It has a “completion contract” to provide some of the center’s security “up to the day the buildings fell down,” according to Barry McDaniel, its CEO from January 2002. Another of Stratesec’s biggest security contracts, between 1995 and 1998, is with the Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority, providing electronic security for Reagan National Airport and Dulles International Airport. Their work includes maintaining the airfield access systems, the CCTV (closed circuit television) systems, and the electronic badging systems. American Airlines Flight 77—one of the planes hijacked on 9/11—takes off from Dulles. Marvin P. Bush, the youngest brother of future President George W. Bush, is a director at Stratesec from 1993 to June 2000, when most of their work on these big projects is done. Wirt D. Walker III, a distant relative of George W. Bush, is chairman of the board at Stratesec from 1992, and its CEO from 1999 until January 2002. Another of Stratesec’s directors, from 1991 to 2001, is Mishal Yousef Saud Al Sabah, who is a member of the Kuwaiti royal family. Al Sabah is also chairman of an investment company called the Kuwait-American Corporation (KuwAm), which, between 1993 and 1999, holds a large, often controlling share of Stratesec. In 1996, it owns 90 percent of the company; by 1999 it owns 47 percent. According to Wayne Black, the head of a Florida-based security firm, it is delicate for a security company serving international facilities to be so interlinked with a foreign-owned company. He suggests: “Somebody knew somebody.” Black also points out that when a company has a security contract, “you know the inner workings of everything.” Furthermore, if another company is linked to the security company, then “what’s on your computer is on their computer.” After 9/11 Stratesec CEO Barry McDaniel is asked whether FBI or other agents have questioned him or others at Stratesec about their security work related to 9/11. He answers, “No.” [American Reporter, 1/20/2003; Prince George's Journal, 2/4/2003; Progressive Populist, 3/1/2003; Progressive Populist, 4/15/2003; Washington Spectator, 2/15/2005]


Scanner: Our current president signed an affidavit before he became president that he would make sure there would be no more mercury (thymerosal) put in our vaccinations. He has yet to keep his promise.
Thank you.


So, let's get this straight. 1) In 1933, America's WAS declared into a state of emergency, which has never been rescinded. We ARE PRESENTLY in a declared state of emergency (and have been for nearly 75 years), 2) multiple paramilitary systems have been raised, readied, operating, and practicing — beginning in 1974, and 3) the president of the united States need only sign a piece of paper to END the constitutional government of the united States.

On May 9, 2007, our president signed a National Security Presidential Directive — an unconstitutional piece of paper — which gave to himself the powers of total dictatorship over the entire nation (NSPD-51) and CONgress has no say so whatsoever. Can you say "total dictatorship?"

But more to the point, the question we must ask ourselves is this: are we NOW under Martial Law? We know for a fact that our constitutional rights have been politically and bureaucratically eliminated; we know for a fact that the global government has been raised; we know for a fact that the NAU is a fast-track reality; we know for a fact that the United Nations has absconded with our traditional military (who are not coming back to the states); we know for a fact that the United Nations Agenda 21 mandates that we live, believe, think, and act according to their worldly directives; we know for a fact that the International Property Maintenance Code has silently maneuvered itself into ALL American communities — much like Eminent Domain and land trust organizations — patiently awaiting the directive to seize MOST American homes; we know for a fact that the Civilian Labor Camps are up and readied; we know for a fact that disarmament is sneaking up on us like all global-political veils; we know for a fact that a shadow dictatorship manages our 2-Party system; we know for a fact that the largest global corporations in the world buy all laws into existence, AND we know for a fact that our FEAR is translating into a completely FRACTURED resistance to all-the-above. WE are in DEEP TROUBLE, America! The whole world is in deep trouble.

It is this writer's opinion that we ARE in a passive state of Martial Law RIGHT NOW. However, once the "BIG Emergency" is called into play and strategic reality, we WILL see the EXPECTED results of our 2-Party maneuvering, which is the permanent END of OUR FREEDOM AND NATION.

And amidst all this, what do the American people do? They play the "bring our soldiers home" game or the "illegal immigration" game. They play "the debates" game and the "global warming" game. People! You cannot see the forest for the dialectic trees! Why, why, why can't you put the pieces together to see the FACTS BEFORE YOUR FACES??? America IS the sacrificial lamb! YOUR freedom is GONE!

All the take-over/conquering systems have been raised with YOU watching and realizing nothing! And all of the red-flag wavers, who have been TRYING for decades to drop the FACTS in your laps, are on severely borrow time. When communications are taken over by the paramilitary systems, you will never again be privy to TRUTH of any kind — only dictatorship, rules, labor, lies, regional masters, brute force, and conquerors.

Think, people think! What happens to the elderly, the infirmed, the "imperfect," your pets, your infants, your autistic grandchildren, your school children, your homes, your possessions, your bank accounts, your automobiles, your health — when EVERYTHING YOU NOW DO AND KNOW BECOMES ILLEGAL AND MANAGED BY PARAMILITARY GROUPS? All of written history gives you the answer!

EVERY SCHOOL has lock-down policies. EVERY PERSON in the united States, according to the same man who created and handed ALL POWER in this nation TO HIMSELF via NSPD-51, says WE ALL have to be EVALUATED FOR MENTAL ILLNESS. You're a lunatic if you're a Christian. You're a lunatic if you're a patriotic American. You're a lunatic if you question the WARS. You're a lunatic if you think or live according to the laws of the Constitution. You're a lunatic if you refuse to take Big Pharma drugs. You're a lunatic if you choose to take supplements. You're a lunatic if you are straight and monogamous. You're a lunatic if you want to have children. You're a lunatic if you prefer marriage to hooking up. You're a lunatic if you question global warming. You're a lunatic if you question the mental health systems in your schools. You're a lunatic if you're overweight. And you're a lunatic criminal if you smoke cigarettes, don't wear seat belts, can't afford to get your property up to new "international codes," or drive cars.

And THEN, there is biotechnology waiting in the wings to "fix" your flaws — to make you "desirable" — to and for the pathological elites in charge. Welcome to academic and DNA-based eugenics. Welcome to designer and assigned babies. Welcome to permission slips to breed. Welcome to indoor farming. Welcome, "citizens," to Martial Law. If in doubt, ask the NAU regional King in charge of it ALL and his 2-Party army. I suppose when we're mostly a homeless population, sick with designer diseases, and crazed in the streets, the labor camps will look pretty good to us.

So, exactly how long are you going to deny the neon flashing lights on the walls??? What does it take for the 300 million of us to indivisibly demand that "government," as it now stands armed and against US, cease and desist?


A Complete 9/11 Timeline

An excellent education. Save this as one of your favorites -- and refer to it often --
http://complete911timeline.org/ t...300#a1010defcon


Hopefully I can stay well because I don't feel I can completely trust medical doctors and hosptitals anymore.
Marjorie Kidaman | 7.24.07 - 12:46 pm |

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Marjorie, an estimated 195,000 died to potentially preventable hospital accidents in the USA in 2001, 2002, and 2003.. I was glad to get out! I too depend and rely on vitamans and herb supplements for health and only in the last year have I had to depend on blood pressure medicine. I've gotten lazy, drink a little to much, and just don't eat right, exercise as a much... though I still walk alot, do chi-gong, and weight lift. Medicine has always been a last resort for me.
As far as vaccinations, I believe our decider has promised to veto a bill which would disallow mercury in vaccines, and we all know who's hand is in the pharmaceutical industry.
You and your's take care


I just watched nearly four (4) hours of the continuing GONZALES (Justice) hearing // the man should resign immediately.

He refused to be clear in a repeated question by Senator Shummer (D-NY) IF HE (Gonzales) was instructed by White House (BUSH/CHENEY) to go to the hospital bedside of then Attorney General John Ashcroft for the purpose of seeking wire tap blessings. He refused to answer, instead giving a reply that did not answer -- which itself was an answer, in my opinion. The Senator, too, I'm sure.

He needs to resign. There is so much more // the man still supports torture, clarifies by saying certain things must be but then avoids direct questioning. That stuff about the political involvment in firing attorneys -- get rid of this guy, he's just an enabler to making corrupt plans a reality.


BRZEZINSKI: "A TERRORIST ACT IN THE US BLAMED ON IRAN"

The Democratic Party Congressional leadership has known all about Cheney's plans for six months or more, as can be shown from the public record. On February 1, 2007, Zbigniew Brzezinski warned the Senate Foreign Relations Committee of ongoing machinations designed to procure war with Iran and beyond: "A plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran involves Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks, followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure; then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran; culminating in a 'defensive' US action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan." Over the past half year, events have followed Brzezinski's scenario closely. Blaming Iran for the missed benchmarks in Iraq is now the daily stock in trade of the Bush administration and the US Central Command, who whine continuously about Iranian interference in Iraq. There have been several military provocations in Iraq which the US has tried to pin on Iran, most notably March 23, 2007 incident involving 15 British Royal Navy and Royal Marines personnel who were taken into custody by the Iranians. This incident was a part of Cheney's winter-spring war drive, which peaked with two US B-1 bombers deliberately violating Iranian airspace over the city of Abadan in oil-rich Khuzestan province on March 31. This crisis was defused by a mobilization of persons of good will around the world, with Russian President Putin and the RIA-Novosti news agency playing a critical role. In particular, a pointed March 28 warning from Putin to Bush about attacking Iran created enough uncertainty in Washington about how Moscow might respond to nuclear aggression against Iran so that cooler heads than Cheney's prevailed.


In the late winter, Pelosi, House Majority Leader Stenny Hoyer and Reid had bowed to the demands of AIPAC, the subversive pro-Israeli lobbying organization whose employees have been implicated in espionage, and removed from the defense bill a provision warning Bush that he was required to consult Congress before attacking Iran. A similar provision pushed for a while by Senator Webb of Virginia has also disappeared from view. As for the Republican presidential candidates, on June 7 they ­ with the solitary exception of maverick Ron Paul ­ outbid one another in enthusiasm for a nuclear attack on Iran. These ultra-Hitlerian outbursts occurred in response to manipulation by Wolf Blitzer, an obvious asset of the war party. For the good of the American people, the warmonger GOP candidates, along with Blitzer, should have been hauled away at once in a net by burly orderlies in white coats.


We need cheaper health care in this country if not a form of national health care.
Thanks for the time to vent and inform.
Scanner | 07.24.07 - 10:44 am | #

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Hopefully I can stay well because I don't feel I can completely trust medical doctors and hospitals anymore. I like the naturepathic method.

I was dutiful and followed their advice and took my son to them for all his vaccination shots, and now he has full-blown autism. If I hadn't taken him to the doctors, he wouldn't have autism now. They may not have meant to harm him but they did. That's the crux of the matter.

I study hard to figure out what foods and supplements help his body to function at an optimum level. So far so good! And my son has a really fine (tall and lean) healthy body because of the good eating and good supplements and vitamins he has taken over the years; and I would not accept his picky eating when he was younger (as most autistic children are realy picky eaters and have health problems as a result).

I just remember Bob Salter who was a talk show host in SL back in the 80's and he was probably one of the first to be onto the skum taking over our country; and he talked about it on his radio program often. And he went on vacation to Southern Utah and got sick and had to be taken to the hospital. And they (knowing who he was) beat him with rubber hoses and tortured him (you just can't know where they all are) until he paid them off and promised not to tell anyone if they would just let him go.

When he got back on the air, he could barely speak and was really sick (and he did die not to long after that). But he told what they did to him (the whole story) because that's the fighting spirit he had in him, right to the end.

To me, I would feel so vulnerable when in their care. They can shoot anything they want into your body and they make plenty of mistakes and lots of people die as a result. It's kinda like playing Russian Roulette, especially if you make yourself and your opinions known like Bob Salter did.


Hi jbrid1138! Keep up the good work on here!

The worse things get, the more clear it becomes where our allegiances lie! And what our priorities must be!

The bad guys feed on fear and hatred. So let's stay positive, put our faith in God and picture how the world will be when the bad guys push too far.

Good men and women of America: Show the world that the heart of America is noble and true!

God bless you all!
Anthony


Just keep remembering that we didn't do anything wrong // not us -- THEY DID IT. They are the ones that deserve punishment // not us. THEM.

And they will eventually get what's coming to them, if not of this earth -- EVENTUALLY. And the hell of it is (pardon the pun) these idiots think they've gotten away with murder. Not.

Take a few minutes and watch this video. It has a nice beat and a way about it that brings one's spirit back to the surface again. Where we (the good guys, remember that) belong. Enjoy --

We didn't start the fire - Billy Joel
(Music Video -- 4 min; 32 sec)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h? v=rq3PVHVn0kE


With all this talk about the health care system namely with new film Sicko, by Michael Moore, here's my own health care story. I admitted myself into the emergency room about 2 months ago thinking I may be having the beginnings of either a stroke or heart attack. Admitted and kept overnight and tests ran the next day, all my heart came back negative except the old high blood pressure, high cholestrol, and high heart enzymes (which is why they kept me overnight. ) I did stay in the emergency room for 7 hrs, since there was no beds availible in the hospital but when I did get a room it was private and everyone on the staff were great. Wonderful people.
Well i'm back on my meds and doing good but recently have begun getting the invoices of the costs to my insurance company. The latest revealed the hospital stay cost approxiomately $16,000. Yes, $16,000 for a day's stay in the cardiac care unit. Moral of the story. My insurance is paying 100% of the costs and i'm good to go, but if you don't have health care insurance you are going to be paying huge bills off, if you ever have surgery, or even tests ran.
We need cheaper health care in this country if not a form of national health care.
Thanks for the time to vent and inform.


Sometimes I just want to walk away from this entire establishment, find a place out in the wilderness, build a house underground and say bye-bye!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 07.24.07 - 9:59 am |
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I hate to tell you this BUT you just described a grave, my forum friend.

It's our country // they should be the ones forced underground. We didn't start the fire --
They did.
jbrid1138 | 07.24.07 - 10:00 am | #

DING,DING,DING!
YOUR THE GRAND PRIZE WINNER IN THE "WHAT WAS AQUA TEEN DESCRIBING" CONTEST!!

YEP SOME TIMES I JUST REALLY DO NOT WANT TO BE HERE ON EARTH AT THIS TIME!


I also haven't been one to read much of the Bible, but I've heard it quoted by people that 'seem' to think the words have a special meaning -- some of which I am sure it does.

I recently heard one such quote for which I would like to say makes for all kinds of special meaning // the quote came from Professor Steven E. Jones, a nuclear physist, an excellent resource for truth when it comes to demolition of the WTC, who was until late employeed as a physics professor at Brigham Young University (BYU) in Utah. A Mormom university, himself a devoted Mormom (me too once upon a time, but that's another story).

Professor Jones was conducting research on the WTC dust, samples taken from a nearby Ground Zero apartment, and other locations thoughout NYC. My point is -- Professor Jones managed to isolate a specific signature for thermate, a unique combination of certain 'elements' that without a shadow of a doubt clearly identify the use of said explosive at the site. Thermate, visible under an electron microscope, so small it is hidden on individual dust particles BUT seen quite clearly with that microscope. All attempts at disposing of the evidence at the WTC (i.e., the steadfast removal of WTC steel, shipped overseas at protest of ignored 9/11 families) SHOWS UP in the dust, of all places. The same dust that has subsequently been responsible for even more deaths and illness as a result of the initial clean up efforts.

Professor Jones made mention (that Bible quote) of Isaish // saying the truth will be whispered from the dust.

That made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck -- I went in search of the exact quote // Here it is for you nice folk:
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From the King James Version: ISAIAAH 29:4

And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.
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See what I mean? This information has yet to make big time news distribution // But wait for it, it's on the way. Evidence. Proof Positive. Controlled Demolitions of the World Trade Center; the evidence of the same, i.e., the TRUTH whispered to us out of the dust. The WTC dust.
jbrid1138 | 07.24.07 - 9:43 am | #

Very astute observation!
more "clues" to come!


Yeah, that's great. Got to be one of the all time best shots at the guy.


Remember this?
Cheney making significant progress after Katrina and a fed up citizen says "go fuck yourself Mr. Cheney". Pure gold.
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch& plindex=0


Sometimes I just want to walk away from this entire establishment, find a place out in the wilderness, build a house underground and say bye-bye!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 07.24.07 - 9:59 am |
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I hate to tell you this BUT you just described a grave, my forum friend.

It's our country // they should be the ones forced underground. We didn't start the fire --
They did.


Dear Mr. Bush: The "folks" who alledgedly bombed us came from Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Not Iraq. Not Afghanistan. Not Iran. So if you want to bomb the alledged perpetrators you will have to bomb the "folks" in Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
Geoffrey Allen. | 07.24.07 - 9:55 am |
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Damn good point. But that would mean he would then also have to BOMB Dubai (for they certainly had alleged participants in the 9/11 attack) and yet Dubai was the country GWB was so willing to sign over our major sea Ports to a few months back. Remember?

He even got angry when certain folks started questioning his logic. Imagine that.


Sometimes I just want to walk away from this entire establishment, find a place out in the wilderness, build a house underground and say bye-bye!


http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...0707Sheehan.htm
***extract***
Conyers had raised the possibility of impeaching Bush more than a year ago while Republicans were in charge of Congress.
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Read between the lines here // Conyers used that 'possibility' to help get them all elected. Once elected, impeachment was taken off the table // Hell it was never on the table. And they (the Democrats) sure in the hell haven't ended the war yet either have they.


Dear Mr. Bush: The "folks" who alledgedly bombed us came from Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Not Iraq. Not Afghanistan. Not Iran. So if you want to bomb the alledged perpetrators you will have to bomb the "folks" in Saudi Arabia and Egypt.


Posted elsewhere -- But something I wanted to ensure you folks know and didn't miss:

I also haven't been one to read much of the Bible, but I've heard it quoted by people that 'seem' to think the words have a special meaning -- some of which I am sure it does.

I recently heard one such quote for which I would like to say makes for all kinds of special meaning // the quote came from Professor Steven E. Jones, a nuclear physist, an excellent resource for truth when it comes to demolition of the WTC, who was until late employeed as a physics professor at Brigham Young University (BYU) in Utah. A Mormom university, himself a devoted Mormom (me too once upon a time, but that's another story).

Professor Jones was conducting research on the WTC dust, samples taken from a nearby Ground Zero apartment, and other locations thoughout NYC. My point is -- Professor Jones managed to isolate a specific signature for thermate, a unique combination of certain 'elements' that without a shadow of a doubt clearly identify the use of said explosive at the site. Thermate, visible under an electron microscope, so small it is hidden on individual dust particles BUT seen quite clearly with that microscope. All attempts at disposing of the evidence at the WTC (i.e., the steadfast removal of WTC steel, shipped overseas at protest of ignored 9/11 families) SHOWS UP in the dust, of all places. The same dust that has subsequently been responsible for even more deaths and illness as a result of the initial clean up efforts.

Professor Jones made mention (that Bible quote) of Isaish // saying the truth will be whispered from the dust.

That made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck -- I went in search of the exact quote // Here it is for you nice folk:
_______________
From the King James Version: ISAIAAH 29:4

And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.
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See what I mean? This information has yet to make big time news distribution // But wait for it, it's on the way. Evidence. Proof Positive. Controlled Demolitions of the World Trade Center; the evidence of the same, i.e., the TRUTH whispered to us out of the dust. The WTC dust.


Have any of you looked into Niel Bush the presidents brother? Little bro the banker.


A good fick to show the clinton's scams was clinton cronicles.
I think it was 2 banks that went broke as they got no-interest loans for Tyson and other buiseness freinds, loans never repaid, banks losses paid off by tax money through FICA, your money.....
over 200 people have turned up dead that were too knowledgable about clinton buiseness.......


from page 50
Sees Things | 07.23.07 - 7:47 pm

the queen of england and the bush's are related. big oil, opium and cocaine, are family businesses to them.
Sees Things | 07.23.07 - 10:05 am |

hillary's rose lawfirm set up tyson chicken for money laundering.
Sees Things | 07.23.07 - 10:12 am |
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How do you know the inner workings so well ? Your knowledge of the connections really amazes me. There is so much information to uncover of how we have been hoodwinked all these years. Please keep tying it together like you do because if it helps me, I am sure it helps others.
ty ST ....


http://www.jonesreport.com/ artic...7_fema_911.html

A good video on FEMA
But I learned that by clicking on the "menu" of the video window, you get a whole list of good FEMA videos..........if you haven't seen the one on the Indiana FEMA camps I suggest you watch this one..........Complete with red and blue zone and large gas incinerators and the rail lines and helicopter pads neccesary to feed them........


echo echo echo


why do you THINK they want hillary in the white house? business as usual maybe?
Sees Things | 07.23.07 - 10:15 am | #

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bet on it, daddy's little war criminal is looking out for the family business interests.
Sees Things | 07.23.07 - 10:14 am | #

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king george and his predecessors were making a fortune with the east india shipping company exporting slaves from Africa and opium from india to china. when chinese leaders tried to stop the opium, the UK rolled out the gunships and bombed the hell out of them.

we know prescott bush was busted funding hitler, but george senior through korea and vietnam was running Air America, a private airline shipping company, trading weapons for opium. later as vice president under reagan we had oliver north / noriega , doing the same with cocaine. nancy reagan gets on the podium with the "just say no!" campaign to reverse psychology sell drugs for people who had a LOT to get rid of. bill clinton was governor of arkansas, taking shipments into MENA airport. hillary's rose lawfirm set up tyson chicken for money laundering.
Sees Things | 07.23.07 - 10:12 am | #

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Britain is protecting the biggest heroin crop of all time
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...20707heroin.htm

dont think for a second that this is just Britain there. the taliban were set up by the US and UK to grow opium. when a pipeline was proposed through their turk, they agreed to a cut of the take, when they were going to be short-changed they got mad and burned all the opium crops, this is when the media demonized them. this is why they are at war on opium now there.

the queen of england and the bush's are related. big oil, opium and cocaine, are family businesses to them.
Sees Things | 07.23.07 - 10:05 am | #

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from page 50


hey..
CHECK ONE
CHECK TWO
thump-thump-thump
is this mic working ?


have been reading the seemingly endless pages of information for a while now. Some of the entries have provided interesting and even some useful stuff. I am not one who enjoys sitting and watching very much so you need to take what i say from that perspective.

I believe that some of you who spend time posting have hearts of passion for the cause of truth and would like to do more than just talk about it. But most of what i have read over and over again tells me that most of you just want to talk about it. in some ways it reminds me of some churches i have attended over the years. for the most part most of them want to stay in the box and just talk about it or preach about it to others who just want to think about it.

Why dont you get out from in front of your computers and go DO what you are able to stem the tide of evil that is going on around you. If you really want to DO something, why not join a Ron Paul meetup and get busy changing the system that allows the kind of evil you love to talk about. Or hit the streets with and hand out DVDs on 911. Or find a local church that is doing something rather than just talking about it. then the next time you come on the board you can tell us what you have done rather than what you know. If the shoe fits etc. You can be sure the evil bastards you are talking about are doing more than just talking about it.

Please forgive me if i have needlessly offended any of you
grasshopper | 07.23.07 - 1:17 pm | #

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Brought from page 50........

Anyone that might be offended needs their ass kicked.
If you were offended by this YOU AND YOUR KIDS DESERVE A FEMA CAMP.

Get off your ass and do something to stem the tide of evil,
or keep your damn mouth shut when they rape your kids and put your ass in a camp where you belong........
Offend them hell!!
Henry Bowman | 07.23.07 - 5:54 pm | #

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From page 50 and 51, If I offended anyone, I'm glad, now do something.


give a talkative kid a microphone and show them the red recording light is on, silence! lol


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