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When I discovered Jesus , apart from what religions said about him, I found what I needed. Every other truth merely orbits around the embodiment of truth that he is.
Every other indvidual truth makes contact with him just long enough to " spin off" and start a "new ' religion .
I am not good at explaining it but I have simply never known anything as spiritual as Jesus Christ. You would not believe the things that have happened to me since I left religion and found this love. You simply wouldnt' believe it.
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Beautifully said, Kells, thanks!
But I think you are sweet to want to bless me !
Blessings Shallel !
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Yes I do like you and think you are sweet!
In case you didn't know, that was me, kells
Kells, I really think you would appriciate the writing of Mary Sparrodancer. Her website is sparrowdancer.com -
Blessings
Shallel | 08.02.07 - 11:54 am |
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I have looked into, and sometimes been part of, the multiplied thousands of " religions" out there, while I was searching for anything that I could be sure of , anything real.
I don't like religion anymore because it complicates a relationship with the Creator that should be so simple that a child can understand.
As I went through the revolving door of religions , I came full circle and re-discovered Jesus Christ. He was suddenly completely, naturally, and breathtakingly spiritual. I thought at one time that " Jesus" was the problem. But as I pressed in to the Creator begging for the truth, I found that it was religion that was the problem all along .
Religions seek to eradicate OR minimize the person of Jesus Christ. Anti -christ religions seek to eradicate completely the person of Jesus Christ and subsitute another '' Christ "
Pro- Christ religions ( Christianity's sects) each take a shot at minimizing the person of Jesus Christ a peice at a time. Sect one says " We believe THIS "
Sect two says " Well we believe THAT "..... and on it goes until Jesus is stripped of all semblence of meaning, and purpose, and personhood.
What they " believe" becomes a substitute for truth. What they "believe" becomes a god to them.
I am done looking Shallel. When I discovered Jesus , apart from what religions said about him, I found what I needed. Every other truth merely orbits around the embodiment of truth that he is.
Every other indvidual truth makes contact with him just long enough to " spin off" and start a "new ' religion .
I am not good at explaining it but I have simply never known anything as spiritual as Jesus Christ. You would not believe the things that have happened to me since I left religion and found this love. You simply wouldnt' believe it.
Mary Sparrowdancer appears to me, to be substituting , or minimizing his person, just like Christianity's 10,000 sects have been so successful at doing , as well as non - christian religions.
But I think you are sweet to want to bless me !
Blessings Shallel !
just to comment on the use of surveillance devices and listening devices, the goal of their use is to maintain security. in the article Telstra faces probe over spy claims, it should be noted that any type of listening device or tracking device used for surveillance should not red flag the police into thinking that any wrong doing was taking place.
Shallel, you sure have got a lotta learning to do about the bible. Next time you try to quote scripture, make sure you understand what you're talking about please as to you won't be deceived or deceive others. I read the entire 8th chapter of john and "nowhere" did jesus call God a liar. Also, God is called Yaweh, and The Father while Jesus is referenced to sometimes as :The Lamb, Melchezidek, and Son of the Father. I am not trying to chide you or be argumentative, but you're printing falsehoods here with your replies. I won't be getting anymore comments in my email on this blog anymore, my space is always cluttered with more than 200 replies daily.
Kells, I really think you would appriciate the writing of Mary Sparrodancer. Her website is sparrowdancer.com -
Blessings
Ron Paul was considered a maverick up until this interview. Now, I'm not sure what to think of the man.
MrNOITALL | 08.01.07 - 12:28 pm |
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Do you have the link to the video? I'd like to see it if you do.
call me an "Atheist for Christ"
Peace
Shallel | 08.01.07 - 12:28 pm |
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Atheist for Christ - funny....
Me too Shallel. Catholic grade, middle, and even 2 years of high school.
I stopped going to church before I found out about any atrocities. I just stopped because I had heard it all before and I wasn't interested in hearing it repeated, every sunday, anymore. Same stuff ( mass) , different priest.
Thanks for answering me , I find people very interesting and I appreciate you.
Ron Paul is a Republican. Need I say More?
Ron has no idea how these comments will effect his support. Who is the idiot interviewing him anyway? I'd like to kick that piss-ant in the teeth.
Ron,
We need you buddy, If your comments in regards to 911 are honest, then I question your ability to interpret reality. If those comments are political in nature and you don't really believe them yourself, then I'm afraid a good percentage of your supporters are going to find them insulting.
Ron Paul was considered a maverick up until this interview. Now, I'm not sure what to think of the man.
Hey kells, I was raised Catholic including Catholic School, gave it up when I learned of the atrocities committed by the Church. Connected with my Higher Self through meditation and visualization, so I get direct truth in that way now. (Including a direct knowledge of Jesus and Christ Conciousness) I guess you could
call me an "Atheist for Christ" 
Peace
Ron's comments on 911 felt like being kicked in the gut. I am very disappointed in him. He stands up in front of Congress and talks about Terrorism being use as a tool by the US Government. In an interview with Alex Jones, Ron Paul agrees that another false flag operation is possible and then he categorically designs that 911 was an inside job and by doing so kicks half of his supporters squarely in the teeth. I don't get it. He is still the only Candidate I will support and i will support him but My respect for the is wavering after this interview.
no really this interview really nakes me ponder about the true pres. paul
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Net neutrality is a bad name for a bad idea. Just like the patriot act has nothing patriotic about it. If he voted against it , thats good.
so first we find out he is against net nutrality now he moved to the left of us on the 911 issue..... i wonder what will ron paul divulge about him self that we didnt know...... next thing you know he'll be calling for the arrest of 911 truthers lol..... no really this interview really nakes me ponder about the true pres. paul
Guess you gotta point.
Cheers,
tsukato
I wonder why all his supporters don't organize more, and work/fight for some real change, instead of letting one man take the brunt.
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Ron Paul knows what he is up against. As far as his supporters , I have been to a few of his meetups where people can form groups locally to work together for RP and the cooperation and comraderie is amazing. These people are working hard for him and taking money out of pocket to buy their own supplies , ads , etc.
You and I should be so lucky to have the love and support he has.
There is no candidate running for the nomination that has more loyal and committed people. I hope he knows how much he is loved and appreciated.
I happen to believe that working for RP is on many levels, working for real change. If he doesn't get nominated on the republican ticket , its all over anyway. No harm done.
I hope this helps clarify things, and I do wish you blessings, and hope you will not be deceived.
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It does, I thank you , and since we all stand the same chance of being deceived, getting to the truth is of utmost importance.
Since all of us are deceived on one level or another, in one area or another, I hope we can learn how to not be deceived together. Into the truth together is my prayer.
May I ask what your religious background is ?
I hope this helps clarify things, and I do wish you blessings, and hope you will not be deceived.
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I absolutely support Mr. Paul 100%, however, with things being the way they are, if he gains any really substantial following, he will be tagged a dead man. I wish it were so simple that one man could bring change to this absolutely F*cked up system, but I am afraid that anything short of a real blood letting will be futile. Theres too much to be lost ,by too many souless monsters contolling this country. It seems that by organizing and supporting Mr. Paul, we all may end up bringing a wonderful man's life to a tragic end. I wonder why all his supporters don't organize more, and work/fight for some real change, instead of letting one man take the brunt.
kells, Let me simplify.
I love Christ, and I recognize his compassion in you. I hate Satan, who is also known by the names Jahovah, Yahwey, Allah, and God. He is the God of Abraham, who would command Abramham to kill his son. He is the War God, and Christians, Jews, and Moslems have indeed been doing his bidding as U can see in the world today. He is the wrathful one who will have no other gods before him.
Christ came to tell us of His Father in Heaven, who is pure Love and always everywhere, even in the hearts of Men.
Jesus came to illustrate our nature as Loving Co-creators of Heaven on Earth.
He came to break the spell of the WRATHFUL God, but the message has been
corrupted and Jesus was linked to the God of the Jews.
I hope this helps clarify things, and I do wish you blessings, and hope you will not be deceived.
Cheney is a unique creature, in the same way that satan is.
Shallel | 07.31.07 - 12:28 pm |
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This is so convoluted in so many ways it is impossible to know how or where to start.
But it is also impossible to miss the underlying anger and hatred you have for God .
If I believed for one second that God was demented and doubleminded ( the way you make him out to be) then I would hate him too.
So the question at this moment is , which version is true. Your interpretation / understanding of the bible and a hateful God , or my interpretation / understanding of the bible and a loving God.
We can't both be right.
" Understanding that Jesus was, indeed, the opponent of Jehovah also helps one understand the otherwise incomprehensible dialogue that appears in John 8 of the New Testament. There, Jesus refers to Jehovah as a liar, a murderer and the devil. These are not words coming from a loving son. They are the words coming from Jehovah's staunch and unrelenting political opponent. A quiet, wounded prophet from an opposing god, he is an opponent who has quietly refused to give up on a battle that has been waged over humanity's freedom since Genesis "
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Isn't it sad that these "Christians" don't know Christ at all?
"There is but one god, is there not?"
In actuality, monotheism is a myth. One has only to read the Old Testament to see that there were other gods, many having attributes quite different from the war god most Christians think is the "god of the universe." Belief in an unknowable god of the universe or the god of nature would more correctly be termed "deism." "Monotheism" suggests that a selection among various gods has taken place, and that one god from among them has been chosen.
Whether one places any belief in the bible or completely dismisses everything within it, when its literal, fundamental interpretation and its out-dated standards of conduct suddenly begin metastasizing into the governing instrument for one of the world's most powerful nations, all would do well to become familiar with the Old Testament. This should be done while keeping in mind that the English translations vary considerably from what was actually written in Hebrew. Regardless, reading the Old Testament might, in fact, serve as a scriptural "heads-up" for a world that is now largely in awe of what is happening. It might explain the current tailspin that America seems to be experiencing.
It is in the latter chapters of the book of Zechariah that Jehovah, the old Judeo Christian war god, begins having another of his jealous and coveting mood swings. These are mood swings for which Jehovah is well-known throughout the Old Testament, because when Jehovah has mood swings, death and destruction soon follow. One will notice that the destruction is not necessarily carried out by Jehovah, of course. The murder and destruction are carried out by those listening to Jehovah, taking literally his biblical instructions to destroy and kill again, and again, and again--and thus doing his bidding, again, and again, and again.
In reality, however, the split personality found in Zechariah occurred because more than one author penned the book of Zechariah. According to the New American Bible, scholars date the first eight chapters of Zechariah's prophecy to 520 B.C. No one, those scholars say, knows who wrote the last six chapters, or even the dates when they were written. They were simply penned by an unknown author or authors. Because those chapters are contained in "the bible," however, they are viewed by fundamentalists as the "inspired word of God."
In Chapter Ten, another angry wrath of god begins growing, this one against shepherds. All of Judah will be turned into warriors, and "They shall wage war because Jehovah is with them."
"Strike the shepherd that the sheep may be dispersed," sings Jehovah. This certainly does not sound like a father speaking about his beloved, "only begotten son." It sounds like a jealous god who is going to strike down the works of a shepherd whose teachings oppose the teachings of Jehovah.
"I will turn my hand against the little ones," Jehovah further sings, and one third of the people will be "refined" and Jehovah will then say (according to Zechariah), "They are my people," and the people will say, "Jehovah is my god."
At this time, one-third of the people on earth are Christians. They have been "refined" in part due to the works of the Early Church Fathers who decided to teach that the god of Jesus was Jehovah, the war god of Israel, thus defeating the purpose of Jesus--and his attempt to replace the draconian/Jehovah laws with laws that respected human rights and civil liberties.
One-third of the people on earth, including the majority of people living in the United States, have been "refined" into followers and soldiers of Jehovah. This explains the contradiction in terms of "Christian soldiers." It is the "Christian soldier" who has been conveniently doing the bidding of Jehovah for the better part of 2000 years. With such help, the bloodiest wars on earth have been made possible. With the Christian beliefs that we must bear as many children as capable of bearing, we will be assured of an endless supply of Christian soldiers who, as little ones, are taught in the innocence of childhood that there is none other than Jehovah, and there is no escaping him.
The recent emergence of the Gospel of Judas affirms what many will find to be the strangest of all concepts--that the one commonly referred to as Jesus was not the son of Jehovah, but he was instead the opponent of Jehovah.
He had come (again) to reestablish rights and liberties, replacing the harsh unbending and unforgiving laws of those whose ways were in need of change. The existence of this Gospel of Judas was known to the Early Church Fathers, but it was kept hidden from the public.
Understanding that Jesus was, indeed, the opponent of Jehovah also helps one understand the otherwise incomprehensible dialogue that appears in John 8 of the New Testament. There, Jesus refers to Jehovah as a liar, a murderer and the devil. These are not words coming from a loving son. They are the words coming from Jehovah's staunch and unrelenting political opponent. A quiet, wounded prophet from an opposing god, he is an opponent who has quietly refused to give up on a battle that has been waged over humanity's freedom since Genesis 2.
At this time, as people ask others on the internet "Who would Jesus bomb?" it really makes much more sense to ask instead the old standard question: WWJD, or "What would Jesus do?"
According to what has been written since ancient times, he would most likely do exactly as he has always done. He would oppose Jehovah. #
Mary Sparrowdancer is the author of "The Love Song of the Universe," and of numerous papers and articles, including "The Gospel of Judas, Barbelo and Long-Kept Secrets," which can be seen here: http://www.rense.com/general71/d.../
defmo.htm Mary is a health, science, political and spiritual writer with extensive studies in laboratory sciences, ancient history and biblical studies in four languages. www.sparrowdancer.com. sparrowdancer1@earthlink.net
For the lost ones in this blog who denounce christ, I actually see people who don't even know him, which explains your ignorance as to what's happening and who's the orchestrator of it all. Common biblical knowledge shows that satan was cast outta heaven because he thought he was as powerful as the most high (God), yet God made lucifer one of the most beautiful angels ever, but he tossed him and his cherubs to earth to reign here until he decided to send back his son (Jesus). God created man perfect, but it was lucifer who corrupted him, thus initiating free-will of the flesh, which is what we're seeing today within our world leaders! Nothing but pure greed rules the world now, and yet many diss scripture because it explains everything as it unfolds. The argument after an event takes place is that when something happens, christains use scripture to justify their bibles, but the real mystery is that when an event does take place, a book that was written over 2000 years ago comes to life before all of our eyes and the non-believers refuse to fathom it because they know they can't control the writings and satan knows that he has but a short time left to deceive as many souls as possible! True and faithful followers of Christ have nothing to fear at all, for they know where they're going when the time comes, but sinners and non-believers, well, their flesh professes a big rebellion on the outside, and that's satan using them for all he can, but in even their hearts they walk around daily, watching events unfold and ask themselves, hmmmm, what if those christains were right?! I've got one single thing to say to sinners and anyother non-believers, Try Jesus, afterall, satan will always take you back!
You Christian are a sick bunch, worshipping you war god, Jehovah or Yahwey or Satan.
You won't make the cut. You will be deceived.
Wake up you flock of dumb sheep!
Your Apocalypse is a stage play by the Pentagon!
What worms!
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It's amazing what some people have to say (forum or to their shit before it's flushed down the toilet and away // where I might add it must take their brains along with it).
I really wanted to repost this crap (above) if only to show how lame brained a few people truly can be. He or she has combined our plight that we are faced with here in the USA having gangsters as our controllers INTO something that is our fault, more so the fault of those that believe in the Bible. I've sat that for more than a few minutes trying to connect the dots on that and it is beyond me to understand the logic that person wishes to relay. It's crap -- plain and simple.
They want to bash us (the USA) and they want to bash us (the ones that believe in Christ) //
What they do in the process is bash themself in the head with their idiotic far too stupid remarks. But thanks for sharing.
"Libel suits aren't vehicles to rewrite history," Peter Canfield, attorney for the AJC"
No... they are vehicles to rewrite false history.
What a turkey.
Marjorie, Will you please repost what Bald Menace said? I don't know how to figure out pages!
9-11 truther | 07.30.07 - 9:41 pm
Okay, here it is:
Are they really that diluted to think they can defeat THE LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS
JESUS CHRIST??
now a question for you that favor violent reaction to the NWO, do you think you can stop these "people" with your guns?
How long is that "pristine running brook" you ""know"" o,f going to go un-poisoned??
How long do you really expect to survive a man hunt after they have all the sheep corraled??
I give you a week to 10 days before they find and poison you?? But I beleive If you trust in the inner voice of His Holy spirit you will find sanctuary in the earth, In other words, God has some "hididng places for us during tribulation,
Do not trust in your own "stash" ( i pray it IS there for you, but don't be surprised if its gone!,and maybe agents watching your spot and waiting?)
Remember peeps, we are dealing with individuals that no doubt have satans centuries of human watching and know how to deceive you into thinking you are safe!
Trust in the LORD with all your heart,mind and soul, and do not depend on your earthly preperations.
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Marjorie, Will you please repost what Bald Menace said? I don't know how to figure out pages!
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I was wrong; it was Aqua Teen Hunger Force. And this is how you change pages: Go up to the "address" and left click on the last number like "6" if you are on page 56. Then go to your right arrow and move it over one space to the right andl the pink screen will disappear. Then move your left arrow back and type in the right number, delete the other if it is still there, and then hit the "go" bar or just hit enter. If you make a mistake, just hit the Esc key and it will all come back. Good luck!
alfonso , GO to hell you evil bastard! You probably worship Satan! F YOU! Moderator, if you would fucking post my message the first time, I would NOT have to retype!
Tear up those fucking bibles and you may recover!
Sickening, sniveling "Christians"!
alfonso | 07.30.07 - 9:57 pm
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shut-up and come to bed my preciousssssssssss
ive made it niiiisssssse and HOT for you
hisssssshisssssssbooooohahahahahahhahaha
Tear up those fucking bibles and you may recover!
Sickening, sniveling "Christians"!
Well, the Bible tells you how you can protect your family. Bald Menace is on the right track over on 57 (I think that's his name).
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.30.07 - 7:54 pm
Please repost as I don't know how to go to that page, please?
Marjorie, Will you please repost what Bald Menace said? I don't know how to figure out pages!
How do you figure out what page is where? I don't know how to change the pages??
You Christian are a sick bunch, worshipping you war god, Jehovah or Yahwey or Satan.
You won't make the cut. You will be deceived.
Wake up you flock of dumb sheep!
Your Apocalypse is a stage play by the Pentagon!
What worms!
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Well, the Bible tells you how you can protect your family. Bald Menace is on the right track over on 57 (I think that's his name).
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No, it's Aqua Teen Hunger Force. He's pretty close to the truth.
Not sure if anyone has seen this yet. At least I haven't until today!
Not sure but I do think this is Loose Change Final Cut.
At least I think it is an hour long rough draft of it.
Loose Change Final Cut:
http://www.visualvendetta.com/to...b/
viewlink.html
I really do think it is a draft version. I hope it is a draft version. I looks so raw. But it is still good. Alex Jones is in it. Not sure why Mark Dice isn't. I was told that he was suppose to be in there. Anyways.
Marjorie, And how are you going to protect your family? I DO believe we MUST pray but not prayer alone! Do you know what I have heard they have planned for us Christian's? Do you? Putting us up on telephone phones and cruxifing us like Jesus til we renounce God and Jesus! Remember what Bible says! We will NOT be able to buy or sell ANYTHING WITHOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST! IF I were you I would start stocking up on ALL survival gear and NOW! Including guns and ammo too! They will drag you kicking and screaming to one of their 800 FEMA camps, to rape and torture you! Yes, they have more guns then we do, and bigger but IF and this is BIG IF,we can really try to become media and WAKE the fucking sheeple up including cops and military (some of whom are in bed with them,too) we stand a better chance! And there ARE some cops and military on our side in this fight,too! Just not enough yet! Margie, your a fool NOT to try and protect your family!
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Well, the Bible tells you how you can protect your family. Bald Menace is on the right track over on 57 (I think that's his name).
Marjorie, You can DO both! Stock up on guns and ammo and also keep an eye on this guy too! What we ALL have to do is No.1 spread the word about truth about 9-11 and fast and also tell people Marshall Law is coming and also tell people how damn bad NAU is too! And urge ALL to stock up on silver coins too so when they collapse our dollar on purpose, pure evil Zionist Rothchild, it will NOT hurt us that badly! IF we can not stop them! We MUST try to STOP ALL of this first and spread word but at same time, stock up on all stuff too! Marjorie, WHY can't you do both about watching that guy? It is said Anti-Christ is Price Charles as his name equals 666 in all 3 languages! I don't know if that is true or not! And your right on about praying too but we must not just pray for help either! Didn't God say I help those that help themselves? They might have bigger guns BUT who will man them if we convince people of what is truth? Unless they use foreign troops?
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They'll use everything. They are very well-ordered and very organized. The Bible says they will be given power to overcome us and we will go into captivity and under their control. Those who kill with the sword (or gun) will be killed with the sword, and this is to test the faith and belief of the saints--much like God tested Abraham when He ordered him to kill his son Isaac and then stopped him at the last second. This is why Abraham is the father of us all. He proved his worth and devotion and allegiance to God. He received a great reward to be forever revered by us (all his posterity) and to be on the right hand of God along with his son, Isaac and grandson, Jacob (with the 12 sons who make up the House of Israel.)
The Bible also says that your gold and silver will not save you. Your gold will be taken from you and your silver will be tossed away like a "menstrous cloth." (It really does say that.)
In my opinion, the thing to be saving is pennies, because from what I have read in the Bible, this will be the method of paying for goods. But, who knows for sure if it will be our kind of pennies?
And, as per other posts, I do believe in stocking up on groceries and other goods, etc. And I'm glad that we are a nation who still has possession of our guns.
Marjorie, I too believe we MUST pray to God and Jesus for help and forgiveness too but I do not want to go to those FEMA camps! And I intend to die a free person,too! Why can't we do both???
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Well, I sure don't want to go to the FEMA camps. And I don't want to die, either. I do want to be free and independent and autonomous. Plus I do want to be where Jesus and God are. The Bible tells me how I can do this.
I do feel that Jesus will come in my lifetime as he said, "This generation will not pass until all these things come about." I am a baby-boomer and that is the only generation that stands out in all of the earth's history.
So, I guess the best thing to do is to read the Bible and get real close to Jesus and Heavenly Father. There are experiences I have had (like many others, I'm sure ) which tells me they are very close by. It's a personal thing.
Unfortunately, many will die when in the captivity of this NWO (1/4 of the world's population). But the good news is that some will receive "instant sainthood" and be given a white robe and will be precious to Jesus. Jesus died and then reappeared three days later, alive and well, and in power. That tells us a lot.
I wish you and yours safety and success, but I do not agree with the path you are taking. May God bless you and keep you and your family safe. May you not suffer the fate you have spoken for me and mine. Oh God I pray!
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You have a good heart Marjorie. So sorry about your child.
I may not agree with your understanding of the bible but lets try this : Do we agree that satan will rot in hells fire for what he did to your baby and the rest of humanity ?
I like to think so.....please hope with me !
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Thank you for your kind words. Right at first I was horrified that I didn't see this autism stuff coming and put a stop to it.
But, in a way, it turned into a blessing! He is the sweetest, kindest, most helpful soul I have ever seen.
It's sort of like turning lemons into lemonade. You have to look at the positive side and concentrate on that in order to make it work.
Satan and his clan will all burn in the "lake of fire" forever, and the worms crawling on their dead bodies will never die for all they have done.
The only thing we can do is wait for future events to all happen in order to verify whether my version is accurate or not. But I must warn you, lately for about the last 10 or 12 years, I have been knocking a lot of balls clear out of the field.
If the writer of the article is using the term "African-American" for blacks then shouldn't they be using "European-American" for whites? I mean, if you're going to be PC, it goes both ways. No one ethnic group deserves special treatment over another.
Yeah, but it's GOOD dope!
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Online Journal
Monday July 30, 2007
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That is awsome
Thanks -
Well, at least that explains it. We can't all be THAT lucky.
Yeah, but it's GOOD dope!
have a nice day!
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Immature teen on dope.
KILL THEM! KILL THEM ALL! BLOOD, DEATH, GUTS, BURNED FLESH! HEEE HEEEE HEEE!
FUCK THEIR CORPSES! EAT THEIR ENTRAILS!
ROLL IN THEIR BLOOD AND POOP!
HEEE HEEE HEEE!
DEATH HELL SATAN!
have a nice day!
You're welcome. You think I have any respect for a dipshit that is so willing to announce to the world his willingness to kill them. Yeah, you're one wrapped too tight little puppy there forum firend.
Fuck you, too!
I will kill them.
Shallel | 07.30.07 - 10:15 am |
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You should really try and relax a bit forum friend. No one is asking you to 'kill' anybody. In fact saying something like you did makes me question if your medication is the right dosage? Might want to look into that.
Fox Snooze gets the bad rap, but their propaganda is so obvious, that you can easily determine the truth by taking the opposite of what is said.
They are the lightning rod taking the heat off CNN who are the true Fucking Bastard traitors!
I will kill them.
SELDOM DO I PRINT AN ENTIRE ARTICLE BUT THIS NEEDS PRINTING -- AND READING
http://infowars.net/articles/
jul...07Something.htm
Something happened on 9-11
Sheila Samples
Online Journal
Monday July 30, 2007
Strange how something happens and you're unaware that it "registers" with you. Later, perhaps, something will trigger that buried memory and things begin to fall into place.
Something happened on 9-11.
The day began with CNN's Wolf Blitzer frantically reporting that planes had smashed into Buildings 1 and 2 of the World Trade Center. They stood there, so tall that the smoke billowing from their upper floors could be seen for 20 miles. The scene was shocking, grisly, and the horror was broken only by the further news that a plane had rammed into the Pentagon. Death and destruction everywhere. Happening now -- right before our eyes.
In an amazing "Breaking News" alert, CNN Pentagon reporter Jamie McEntyre shot down Blitzer's "plane hit the Pentagon" report. McEntyre said flatly, "Although it may appear that way, from my close-up inspection, there is NO evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only pieces left are small enough you can pick them up in your hand. There are no pieces lying around that would indicate a plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon."
Whoop! Happening now . . . Quick! Back to Ground Zero . . . Just in time to see WTC 2, then WTC 1, sink eerily into their own footprints -- tons and tons of cement blasting instantly into a fine powder, rolling majestically through the streets like an Iraqi sandstorm. Anyone who had ever seen one -- even one -- controlled demolition knew without a doubt what he had just witnessed.
But no time for that -- yet another plane had rammed into a Pennsylvania field with such force there was just a smoking pit at the site with the debris scattered over an eight-mile area . . .
But wait! Don't ask! Still happening now! We're treated to yet another controlled demolition display when WTC 7, struck by no plane, inexplicably collapsed in exactly the same fashion as the first two buildings.
Within hours, CNN had pinned this four-pronged attack on our "homeland" on Saudi billionaire and former CIA operative Osama Bin Laden, and was parading the photographs of 19 terrorists -- 15 from Saudi Arabia -- non-stop across our TV screens. Never mind that in the ensuing weeks, most of them were found alive and well and minding their own business in various parts of the world. For now, they are vicious killers, four of them wannabe pilots who flunked out of flight school, and conveniently left their flight manuals in their cars at the airport.
Then, according to Blitzer, these amazing Boeing stunt pilots, armed with deadly box cutters, evaded multiple layers of airport security, outsmarted the entire intercept and identification operations of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and destroyed 2,974 innocent human beings.
It wasn't long until McEntyre, his feet back on the ground and marching orders in hand, responded to Blitzer's question about his earlier comments -- "Web sites often take statements out of context, such as the exchange from CNN, in which I, myself appear to be questioning whether a plane really hit the building. In fact, Wolf," McEntyre continued, while rapidly pulling my trigger, "I was answering a question about an eyewitness account that a plane had crashed short of the Pentagon, and I was making the point that, no, not near the Pentagon. The only plane that crashed was at the Pentagon."
That's what happened on 9-11. Throughout the day, Blitzer narrated each step over and over again -- a grisly, staccato date-rape drug seared into our national consciousness . . . unimaginable heartbreak . . . horror like none we've ever seen before . . . devastating grief . . . incredible force of crashing airplanes . . . unbelievable horror . . . people running for their lives in desperation through massive debris . . . Stay tuned -- dramatic new pictures of people being swallowed by the smoke and flames . . . happening now . . .
By the time the sun set, our absentee president concluded his day-long zig-zag dash from one hidey-hole to another, and was back at the helm of this shaken nation whose citizens, thanks in large part to CNN, were in the throes of universal post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). That evening, in his address to a paralyzed world, Bush, leaving no doubt he was answering the call of the Almighty, declared war on the terrorists. That evening, Bush, and those like Dick Cheney who control him, began waging war on the terrified.
With the enthusiastic support of CNN, Bush has relentlessly used the singed flesh of the people slaughtered on 9-11 to justify the monstrous lies that took us into war, and the lies that keep us there. Since that day, he has ruled through signing statements and executive orders, setting himself above the US Constitution, the justice system, the entire government. He IS the law -- the Decider, the Privileged Executive, the Tyrant.
Some say one branch of our corporate mainstream media is neither better nor worse than the other branches. I disagree. Perhaps it's because CNN is the Ministry of Truth's chief operative, panting for war, death, and profit, lying -- "catapaulting Bush's propaganda" -- while portraying itself as "The Most Trusted Name in News." Or maybe it's just when the Mockingbirds come home to roost, they all seem to light on the CNN branch.
CNN is very adept at transmitting fear and lies, fraudulent polls, and false-flag alarms over and over and over again to cover up the crimes, treason and mass murder committed by the Bush administration. Blitzer rigidly controls what is aired -- spun -- on CNN as news in his "Situation Room" in the late afternoon and evening. The rest of the 24-hour cycle is spent in news-team giggling, vacuous coverage of Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, and sex predators on the MySpace website. Did you know that last Wednesday there was an explosion in Dallas, a truck turned over in North Carolina, peanuts can kill you, obesity is contagious, and a cat roaming the halls of a nursing home points out who is next to die?
But this absurd little Machiavellian fool and the servile CNN courtiers who obediently spin his stupid slogans fail to realize that our freedom is not theirs to destroy. Our children are not Bush's, as political philosopher Etienne de la Boetie so eloquently wrote in either 1552 or 1553, "to be led into his battles, to be delivered to butchery, to be made the servants of his greed and the instruments of his vengeance."
Something happened on 9-11 -- something so horrible that the American people acquiesced for a time in their own subjection.
They will not succumb to their own destruction. Enough is enough.
BY
Sheila Samples
Online Journal
Monday July 30, 2007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/
Henry_Bowman
Can't tell in the writing window if the link is lit blue....don't know why didn't highlight the first time.........
Michael D.
Henry Bowman , Is this your real name? WHY did they have to let them go? Orders or what?
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Where have you been??
Michael D. (my real name) has metamorphised...
To Henry Bowman. (And I thought 8 beers was too much for me for 4 hours....)
See here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Bowman
going back to bed.
Xena, the warrior princess.....old show for pervs...do a google search.
Where the heck are you? The south pole? How cum you didn't know that??
This is the best costume I could come up with on short notice doll........
Kells, yer a mess.
Tell the kids I feel honored.
ST, What is xena costume please? Glad your here!
Bin Laden torture
Did you know that the UK New Fabian gov.have a initiated a new dept. at M16? It's called the Terrorist Embroidery Circle for poor traumatised didums.
The fact that Wiki doesn't have a "The information in this article is disputed" warning at the top of the Bin Laden page proves the point of this article. Too bad it wasn't written better.
just lettin people know, been busy here at home, didnt dissappear, still reading forum when I can too. get yer xena costume on kells
Sees Things | 07.29.07 - 11:21 pm |
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I am glad you are still around here ST! Very glad.
kells | 07.30.07 - 12:07 am | #
Me too, hey ST, check these out kinda got in a little pissed off mood about how illegal this whole war really is, it is so beyond comprehension:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=22160#117135
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=22160#117146
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=22160#117150
just lettin people know, been busy here at home, didnt dissappear, still reading forum when I can too. get yer xena costume on kells
Sees Things | 07.29.07 - 11:21 pm |
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I am glad you are still around here ST! Very glad.
Henry,
You would have been so proud .
All 3 kids were shooting targets this morning.
In honor of you and your gun show today.
My 14 year old is a very good shot !
I am ... not so good yet....
just lettin people know, been busy here at home, didnt dissappear, still reading forum when I can too. get yer xena costume on kells
Sees Things | 07.29.07 - 11:21 pm |
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Thanks !
This is the best costume I could come up with on short notice doll;
http://thumbsnap.com/v/yKJp2z5J.jpg
You like ?
: )
I wish you and yours safety and success, but I do not agree with the path you are taking. May God bless you and keep you and your family safe. May you not suffer the fate you have spoken for me and mine. Oh God I pray!
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:01 pm | ````````````
You have a good heart Marjorie. So sorry about your child.
I may not agree with your understanding of the bible but lets try this : Do we agree that satan will rot in hells fire for what he did to your baby and the rest of humanity ?
I like to think so.....please hope with me !
just lettin people know, been busy here at home, didnt dissappear, still reading forum when I can too. get yer xena costume on kells
Michael D.
Henry Bowman , Is this your real name? WHY did they have to let them go? Orders or what?
Henry, Please keep in touch! You realize don't you that Fed's are probably reading every word we type right? F*ck 'em! I hope the treasonous Satan worshipping bastards burn iin hell for all eternity and they will! It's nice to know we are making some head way! Gives me hope alittle anyway! I like the best one is 9-11 What's the truth! Keep in touch OK? I am going to bed, see you at same post OK? I just minumize it at bottom for night is all!
Yes, Truther, I know the zionist side. Met a state trooper that was in NY on 9-11. he was in the station when they arrested those 5 lackeys from Mossad and had to let them go.
This is like a multifaceted gem, there are many groups that had a hand in it. Qiut beating us up wih just the Zionist face of it. Luv ya anyway.....at least you've calmed down and stopped yelling.
Going to bed. Long day. need to find a turbine to work on, so Ill be up early beating the phone.
Michael D.
Henry Bowman, Must have been a gun show nationwide? We had one here too! Did cops seem to agree it was an inside job too? You do know Israel helped do 9-11 right? Israel has ADMITTED letting Richard Reid board that plane!
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Everyone in the world-including israel knows that israel was in on it. We knew on 9/12/2001.
Do you have any new information?
Henry, Go to http://www.patriotamerica.com/Ja...cLamb/
index.htm and get them to go there too or download info or send for pathlets on it OK? Operation Vampire killer 2000! I pray we turn around cops and military for sure and ALL! We MUST! Do you believe there is foreign troops already on U.S. soil? I have heard there is! I went to gun shop today and 5 people were in there and I told them all to stock up on all survival gear and also told couple about FEMA camps complete with gas chambers and this lady asked me "here in America"? I said YES, here in America! I don't know who I am more pissed off at Henry, treaonous mass murdering Bush and cohorts or fucking MSM and even "left gatekeeper's" for keepng ALL this treasonous shit from sheeple for all damn long, even before JFK was murdered by Bush Sr. and Arlen Spector helped cover it up and others in our OWN gov't including CIA and LBJ too! Right then and there gutless, splineless Americans should have revolted til they got the truth about who murdered JFK! I was just a kid or about 13 when it happened or I damn sure would have rose up and demanding some answers or revolted! We damn sure SHOULD have had a 2nd American revolution LONG before NOW BIG TIME! A long time ago!
Henry Bowman, Must have been a gun show nationwide? We had one here too! Did cops seem to agree it was an inside job too? You do know Israel helped do 9-11 right? Israel has ADMITTED letting Richard Reid board that plane!
My Grandfather is one of the wisest men I've ever met. He knows. My half brother is an ignorant pot head that owes me money, I don't think he knows anything well except whores and dope.
dvds today were 9-11 mysteries, Loose Change, Terrorstorm on one disc, Free channel 9-11 with 68 video files, 8 hours long, and 9-11 Ripple Effect, a new one, shows photos of missile pods on military craft that erely match the size and shape of extra equipment on planes hitting the Twin towers..........Maybe 40 given out. Woulda been more but just found out about the show late last night.
The cops at this show were intelligent and good men. Same as last show, same place. They acted as if they enjoyed it as much as I.
Never saw so many beautiful old guns in one place before. Several collections, of 50 or so, Garands, colt .45's, you name it. Doubles and on and on........
"Unintended Consequences"
I saw 3 copies at one book dealer today.
I thought of you.
I bought $140 in books, just on the AR-15, today. Never owned one before today, now I own 2 of the best. Within one week, I will know 95% of all knowledge on the Ar-15.
Within 1 week, I will be more proficient than 95 % of all military that use the AR-15. I will not tolerate this Tyranny. will you?
I didn't go to a lake today or yesterday, didn't do the bar thing
Friday or Saturday.
Talk is cheap, I'll stop by FEMA and see how you're doing (remember "Red Dawn"?)
What are you going to do this week to get ready for what is to come? I gave out 50 dvds at the gun show today, including 3 police officers.....(bronze balls I've got)
You'll know better in the morning, after my words are absorbed by your subconcious.
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I was thinking of you.
All of you.
Henry, Does your family believe you or do they think your nuts? How was the reception today with cops? How was reception with others? PLease Henry ikeep in touch OK? If you like email me OK? Sue4986@aol.com but my mailbox is full most days! In case we don't met up on this website some where that is my email!
Henry, "Unintended Consequences"
I saw 3 copies at one book dealer today.
I thought of you.
Please post who you mean by YOU when you say that OK? I HAVE been given out DVD's too! Along time now! Do you need some for NAU too? We MUST,MUST also educate people on that especially! And fast! Congress is supposed to vote on it by end of summer! And MOST sheeple have NOT even heard of it! Henry, we MUST become the media, you know this right? And go to website http://www.patriotamerica.com/Ja...cLamb/
index.htm This is Police and Military against NWO! They have pamlets to pass out to cops and military too! I am doing all I can! Wished lazy, gutless, apathical UNPATRIOTIC SHEEPLE WOULD NOT ONLY WAKE UP BUT SPREAD WORD AND FIGHT BACK AND NOW! IF we lose America and our freedom'si it will be THEIR fault for not being patriotic and getting up of their dead lazy f*cking asses and stop being soo damn guillilbe and naive and IN DENIAL!
Henry Bowman, What DVD's did you give out? About 9-11 or NAU or what? I too gave out DVD's today too! And have for along time now! What pisses me off about damn near ALL DVD"S about 9-11 is majority do not add in there about 5 dancing Israeli's or like! And STILL wrongly lay blame for highjackings at "Arabs" and not Mossad agents! But yes, I did give out DVD's today and have and talked with people at gun shop too and they all believe me now too! We MUST convince all cops and military of truth! And fast! Some already know! Go to P&MANWO website! Moderator YOU never posted this the first time!
"Unintended Consequences"
I saw 3 copies at one book dealer today.
I thought of you.
I bought $140 in books, just on the AR-15, today. Never owned one before today, now I own 2 of the best. Within one week, I will know 95% of all knowledge on the Ar-15.
Within 1 week, I will be more proficient than 95 % of all military that use the AR-15. I will not tolerate this Tyranny. will you?
I didn't go to a lake today or yesterday, didn't do the bar thing
Friday or Saturday.
Talk is cheap, I'll stop by FEMA and see how you're doing (remember "Red Dawn"?)
What are you going to do this week to get ready for what is to come? I gave out 50 dvds at the gun show today, including 3 police officers.....(bronze balls I've got)
You'll know better in the morning, after my words are absorbed by your subconcious.
Just ask to re-investigate how aluminum jets can slice through steel ? The truth is it can't be done ! Try it in a machine shop, it can't be done ! Do a re-enactment; it can't be done !
In over 5,000 years they have not built a weapon to defeat it.
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Thank you Sane. A clear mind in a muddle of midgets.
This is one reason I have tried so much to get you all to read "Unintended Consequences"
It has many heroic stories, the greatest of which (I feel) is the story of Warsaw, turned into a mass prison camp by the Nazis, ONE MAN took one pistol from one Naz (with a club), then the jews, as a group, studied this weapon. they took it, used it to take another pistol and a rifle.
They then studied these, as a group.
They used these 2 pistols and one rifle to further their inventory........and take over the whole city.
If you do not know history, you will repeat it.
I willl not stand for this tyranny, for I KNOW HISTORY.
Thnk about that and keep your mouths closed for the rest of the evening, all you Marjories out there.
Give me your thoughts in the morning, after you speak with the Lord. When you do, keep your mouth shut then too.
Wait, there's more! I saw how the CEO of Wikipedia grilled the whistle blowers on the construction fraud at the Bhagdad Embassy. He tried to smear the contractor by saying he was drunk at his job. What a Cronie!
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Where????
Wait, there's more! I saw how the CEO of Wikipedia grilled the whistle blowers on the construction fraud at the Bhagdad Embassy. He tried to smear the contractor by saying he was drunk at his job. What a Cronie!
I repeat! Their weapons are far superior to yours (even if we have a whole division and everybody has tons of bullets).
Marjorie, I pity you.
the Russians could not control Afghanistan, we are far advanced over them and have much greater numbers and clearly finer, more modern firepower than the Afghanies had.
Faith is wonderful, but you my dear are a fool.
You better look again in our Book, the only way evil has EVER been suppressed in ALL of recorded history.
Fight violence with GREATER violence.
This is the only thing they understand, and the only force that will prevail.
God bless these patriots.
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07 - 9:13 pm | #
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We are 300 Million, they are 100,000 tops!
Every weapon they build can be used against them.
What do you think would happen if LRAD's were everywhere. As of now every cruise ship in the world has at least 3. A generator and an LRAD could do a little damage.
But more importantly we have a weapon they will never have:
We have the indestructible weapon of the human spirit.
In over 5,000 years they have not built a weapon to defeat it.
I repeat! Their weapons are far superior to yours (even if we have a whole division and everybody has tons of bullets).
Marjorie, I pity you.
the Russians could not control Afghanistan, we are far advanced over them and have much greater numbers and clearly finer, more modern firepower than the Afghanies had.
Faith is wonderful, but you my dear are a fool.
You better look again in our Book, the only way evil has EVER been suppressed in ALL of recorded history.
Fight violence with GREATER violence.
This is the only thing they understand, and the only force that will prevail.
God bless these patriots.
911 frauder, this should keep ya busy for awhile:
Here is a five minute teaser of Ring of Power:
http://www.veoh.com/videos/
v8205...v820510ea8cQyMJ
Does Rome Still Rule Part 1
http://video.google.com/
videopla...834925200441495
Does Rome Still Rule Part 2
http://video.google.com/
videopla...076800390535825
Zeitgeist:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...481422995115331
Ghandhi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h?
v=jnByy_r2ZKk
John Lennon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h?v=I-
NRriHlLUk
http://video.google.com/
videopla...046699234389996
JFK:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...662559138481080
http://www.infowars.com/
articles...iety_speech.htm
MLK on Vietnam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h?v=b80Bsw0UG-
U
Malcolm X on Ballots v. Bullets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...h?
v=CRNciryImqg
The Papers of Thomas Jefferson:
http://www.princeton.edu/~tjpapers/
And the video that first opened my eyes to how clear and present this danger of NWO is [care of ak48]:
George Hunt:UN UNCED Earth Summit 1992
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
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Marjorie, I too believe we MUST pray to God and Jesus for help and forgiveness too but I do not want to go to those FEMA camps! And I intend to die a free person,too! Why can't we do both???
During his time as head of the EPA (after he resigned as governor) he instated the testing of pesticides on little minority children, to take effect 6 months after he left the EPA and became the head of the powerful Health and Human Services. We need to be watching him and reporting on him as he is joined closely to the false prophet!
That's what I am walking about by saying "fight them."
Marjorie Kidman
Marjorie, You can DO both! Stock up on guns and ammo and also keep an eye on this guy too! What we ALL have to do is No.1 spread the word about truth about 9-11 and fast and also tell people Marshall Law is coming and also tell people how damn bad NAU is too! And urge ALL to stock up on silver coins too so when they collapse our dollar on purpose, pure evil Zionist Rothchild, it will NOT hurt us that badly! IF we can not stop them! We MUST try to STOP ALL of this first and spread word but at same time, stock up on all stuff too! Marjorie, WHY can't you do both about watching that guy? It is said Anti-Christ is Price Charles as his name equals 666 in all 3 languages! I don't know if that is true or not! And your right on about praying too but we must not just pray for help either! Didn't God say I help those that help themselves? They might have bigger guns BUT who will man them if we convince people of what is truth? Unless they use foreign troops?
AMEN, but we MUST ask for God's help also in fighting these pure evil bastards TOO!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:27 pm | #
sane, You never answered me,do you believe in God?
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:24 pm | #
who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:36 pm | #
Who's interpretation of who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:37 pm | #
who's translation of who's interpretation of who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:38 pm | #
who's evangelizing of who's translation of who's interpretation of who's god?
AMEN, but we MUST ask for God's help also in fighting these pure evil bastards TOO!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:27 pm | #
sane, You never answered me,do you believe in God?
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:24 pm | #
who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:36 pm | #
Who's interpretation of who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:37 pm | #
who's translation of who's interpretation of who's god?
AMEN, but we MUST ask for God's help also in fighting these pure evil bastards TOO!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:27 pm | #
sane, You never answered me,do you believe in God?
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:24 pm | #
who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:36 pm | #
Who's interpretation of who's god?
AMEN, but we MUST ask for God's help also in fighting these pure evil bastards TOO!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:27 pm | #
sane, You never answered me,do you believe in God?
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:24 pm | #
who's god?
Marjorie, And how are you going to protect your family? I DO believe we MUST pray but not prayer alone! Do you know what I have heard they have planned for us Christian's? Do you? Putting us up on telephone phones and cruxifing us like Jesus til we renounce God and Jesus! Remember what Bible says! We will NOT be able to buy or sell ANYTHING WITHOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST! IF I were you I would start stocking up on ALL survival gear and NOW! Including guns and ammo too! They will drag you kicking and screaming to one of their 800 FEMA camps, to rape and torture you! Yes, they have more guns then we do, and bigger but IF and this is BIG IF,we can really try to become media and WAKE the fucking sheeple up including cops and military (some of whom are in bed with them,too) we stand a better chance! And there ARE some cops and military on our side in this fight,too! Just not enough yet! Margie, your a fool NOT to try and protect your family!
As for me and my house, we will send as many of these satanists to hell as we can, as fast as we can..........
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07 - 7:45 pm
AMEN, but we MUST ask for God's help also in fighting these pure evil bastards TOO!
sane, You never answered me,do you believe in God?
I think I rather follow Henry's advice.
More and more my eyes are open to the real reason for the second amendment, it was not put there by accident.
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:03 pm |
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The 2nd amendment is great and it is what is keeping us safe for the time being. But I believe this present tac that you are both taking will certainly place your families in jeopardy and may bring about what you fear.
I repeat! Their weapons are far superior to yours (even if we have a whole division and everybody has tons of bullets).
There will be a "no contest." Then how will you protect your families, being incompacitated or dead? Then what will happen to your familes? Think it through.
Verbally fight, with no weapons right Marjorie??
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Henry, you are funny. You make me laugh!
Well, those who have used "weapons" will probably be long gone.
No, sorry, Marjorie, you are funny.
Like I've told you before, you and your children will be raped and pillaged.
I feel sorrow for you and yours.
As for me and my house, we will send as many of these satanists to hell as we can, as fast as we can..........
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07 - 7:45 pm | #
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Marjorie when the shit hits the fan, you can sit in a corner and pray as all the pious jews did in nazi germany, or the jesus loving christians did for 605 years during the Inquisition.
I think I rather follow Henry's advice.
More and more my eyes are open to the real reason for the second amendment, it was not put there by accident.
Like I've told you before, you and your children will be raped and pillaged.
I feel sorrow for you and yours.
As for me and my house, we will send as many of these satanists to hell as we can, as fast as we can..........
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07 - 7:45 pm | #
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Don't be so sure, Henry Bowman. All my cards are not on the table. And I closely adhere to the admonitions in the Bible which puts me in the safest place possible.
I wish you and yours safety and success, but I do not agree with the path you are taking. May God bless you and keep you and your family safe. May you not suffer the fate you have spoken for me and mine. Oh God I pray!
Verbally fight, with no weapons right Marjorie??
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07
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Henry, you are funny. You make me laugh!
Well, those who have used "weapons" will probably be long gone.
No, sorry, Marjorie, you are funny.
Like I've told you before, you and your children will be raped and pillaged.
I feel sorrow for you and yours.
As for me and my house, we will send as many of these satanists to hell as we can, as fast as we can..........
Flight 93 was shot down.
9/11 was an inside job. I think.
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Yeah, I agree, I think.
I'd also bet that all planes were remotely controlled and had missile pods........I've not seen nor heard of ANY bodies, luggage, or other remains of a real commercial flight, even at shanksville (12,000 pound jet engines??). i think this one was going to the White House and some commander pissed in their Weaties by ordering it shot down........
Still, no bodies or luggage.......
Verbally fight, with no weapons right Marjorie??
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07
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Henry, you are funny. You make me laugh!
Well, those who have used "weapons" will probably be long gone.
Be fight, I think it means to expose them, to watch them, to speak out against them, to have our hands in their throat as much as we can (just like we are now doing), to refuse to be a part of them or go along with them.
When "Mormon Utah Governor" Michael Leavitt was chairman of the National Governors Association (NGA) in about 1999, he kept talking about the "new economy" and said in at least three speeches (WTTE/words to the effect), "Those who go along with us will do okay. Those who embrace us will prosper. But those who oppose us are going to die."
During his time as head of the EPA (after he resigned as governor) he instated the testing of pesticides on little minority children, to take effect 6 months after he left the EPA and became the head of the powerful Health and Human Services. We need to be watching him and reporting on him as he is joined closely to the false prophet!
That's what I am walking about by saying "fight them."
sane, Fuck off! The only frauder here and disinformant here is YOU!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:23 pm | #
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Hey, Truther, quit already, ok, you are quickly making YOURSELF very unwelcome..........
Who is this fucking idiot?
Our what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...U8c7ZoDAI&
NR=1#
Bush DRUNK.........
THIS IS THE SAME GUY *HE IS AN ADMIN* WHO BANNED MY NAME WITHIN 5 MINUTES OF EDITING MORTON DEVONSHIRE'S PAGE. THIS GUY IS A FIRST RATE PUNK B&^&^ AND SHOULD BE TAUGHT A LESSON ABOUT PATRIOTISM - AS ALL OF THEM SHOULD.
I hope I look like that warrior princess person.
kells | 07.29.07 - 4:11 pm | #
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Carrying an AR-15 and a Glock..........
Hope I didnt' confuse you as this was pretty long and lengthy. So if we take the right path, there will be wonderful rewards, especially to us who fight against the NWO.
And that is how I interpret what it says in the Bible. And I feel it is fairly accurate.
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 6:46 pm | #
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Verbally fight, with no weapons right Marjorie??
When I try to access PP this is the message I get:
You are not authorized to view this page
You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied.
WTF ? This has never happened before.
kells | 07.29.07 - 1:50 am | #
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I got a feeling this is new protocol that is coming soon.....you can get it if you're NSA,CIA,FBI, NEOCON SHILL...........coming soon to a computer near you.........
31/2 years into the 7 years of tribulation Jesus comes in air , unseen , and the graves open and the ones who died in Christ rise up out of the graves and the living in Christ are caught away with them and we are all together with Jesus.
for the next 31/2 years all hell breaks loose on earth. That is my understanding. Then we return WITH Jesus invisible or what I don't know but we will have new bodies.
I hope I look like that warrior princess person.
kells | 07.29.07 - 4:11 pm | #
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Well, something like that. The way I understand it, we will be under the control of the "beast" until the "dividing of times," which is right there between the "daily sacrifice (or time of cleansing)" and the "abomination that maketh desolate" ( totaling 2300 days all together as per Daniel 8 v.13).
It is up to us as to whether we stay under this "beastly" control by the "choices" we have made and will make. That's why we need to pray and get to know Jesus and be in his good graces; for he has wonderful things instore for those who love him and want to be with him.
The Bible says to "pray that you will be found worthy to escape all these things and stand on the sea of glass."
The sea of glass will be the Holy City made of Jasper and all kinds of jewels, with its streets of pure gold which will look like glass) which will (at about that time) come down out of Heaven and be placed on a hill in the "top of the mountains." It will be a little over a mile square (each side--height, breadth, and length the same) and will probably reach up into the clouds.
Rev.15 v.2 (plus other places) says: "And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire; and them that had gotten the victory over the beast and over his image and over his mark and over the number of his name stand on the sea of glass having the harps of God."
So, a great many followers of Jesus will come to the "top of the mountains" via a "holy highway" (which will be laid out for them wherein no evil people will be allowed), and they will have a "plant of renown" to feed on along the way.
The outcasts of Israel (who are of the House of Judah and also of David) and others will also be gathered and brought there, also.
We will stand outside on a "sea of glass" or a platform (??) of solid gold outside of the temple.
Rev. 15 v.8: "And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple till the seven plages of the seven angels were fulfilled."
Ch. 16: "And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth."
Then, after that we will all be "caught up into the clouds" and probably be on the top of the mile-high holy city and unite with Jesus, and it will be very spiritual (which I can't even imagine how wonderful it will be).
People will continue to come on this holy highway from all over the world and will be comforted, and their needs will be taken care of when they arrive. Many will be sick as a result of pollutions, vaccinations, poisonous and GM foods, etc. And as per Revelation 22v.2, there will be a "tree of life" on each side of a river with 12 kinds of fruits (one for each month) for the healing of the nations.
The tents of Judah will be saved first (Zechariah 12 v.7), who are Jesus' goodly horse of battle (as in Zechariah 10 v.3) who are those outcasts (like you and I who are of the House of Judah and didn't even know it) who are awake and have fought hard and refused (no matter what it takes) to join the beast and take his mark or to "bear the shame of heathen" who are joined to the beast.
Three or four fasts will be dedicated to the House of Judah for all their bravery and refusal to succomb to the dictates of the NWO. (Many wil lbe found and gather from caves, out in the desert [where streams of water will start magically flow forth], or wherever else they can find to hide. And when the time is right, they [the House of Judah which includes the House of David] will be gathered and be rewarded with life everlasting where they will not see death, but will live with Jesus for 1000 years.) The others will live to be a 100 or so years old and will be able to bear children late into their old age.
Zephaniah 3, v.17: "The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing."
And Jesus says, "Whatsoever you ask the Father in my name, he will give it to you." For our Heavenly Father and Jesus are the "temple" in the New Holy Jerusalem, and Jesus will show our Heavenly Father to us.
Then the "door will be shut" and there will be a high wall (about 70') all around the city. Beyond that will be all the war mongers and other evil people wondering around or passing by until the "abomination of desolation" time is finished. Then those who have survived and haven't taken the "mark of the beast" will be allowed to come in and have a part in the great blessings in store for those who are within. Each house of the 12 houses of Israel will be given plots all around the "holy City" according to which house they belong.
And the "House of Jacob," who are decendants of the House of Joseph (who are certain selected Indians of the Americas) will also have their portion there, too as per God's promise to their ancestral father, "Jacob" (not the Jacob who is the father of the 12 tribes of Israel, but the Jacob who is a decendant of that Jacob.) And it will all be marvelous in our eyes!
Hope I didnt' confuse you as this was pretty long and lengthy. So if we take the right path, there will be wonderful rewards, especially to us who fight against the NWO.
And that is how I interpret what it says in the Bible. And I feel it is fairly accurate.
Here is what it is like when you approach someone with a copy of "Loose Change".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...?v=u...related&
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OOps, long day at the gun show........forgot to paste GAK's thing about the Matrix.......
how I explain to people about knowing the truth about 9-11 and our gubmint.........
I have actually explained it just this way to many people that I give 9-11 Mysteries, Loose Change and Terrorstorm to, on one disc........
You guys missed a helluva good gun show today....At airport north of Kansas City. Biggest I've been to in years.
picked up 2 AR's and got a line on 2 Glocks and a couple smith .44's for good money.......
Fools are still taking worthless green paper for firearms!!!
Be aware, there is new legislation limiting how much powder/primers/bullets, I think, on the horizon......stock up now or forever hold your peace....almost no-one had reload supplies at this or last 3 shows because of stiff fines for transporting without propper expensive permits...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...7shotsfired.htm
Thank God the Brown's are OK! They should be flying their flag upside down though because our nation is under distress BIG TIME!
sane, Praying on your part sane might help too! That is if you believe in God!?
Ladies, I think we just had church....
kells
Your both soo very right on! May God help us and Jesus too defeat these pure evil Satan worshipping bastards and save not only America but world too from them! We sooo very desperately need a worldwide revolution and NOW before they pull something else, like nuking our own people, which I totally believe they are planniing too but I pray NOT! We MUST, absolutely MUST convince our military and troops and cops to be on our side! It's imparitive the understand what the F*ck is really going on and NOW! The pure evil bastard's want us killing each other and fighting each other rather then them! And don't be fooled by Hellary, Obama, Ghouliani, Biden, or rest, they are ALL, ALL in bed with Bush only just acting slightly different for the grand dog and pony show to make us peons think we have a real choice when in reality THEIR ALL NWO puppet's and members! Any of them that say they will "protect' Israel, YOU KNOW fucking well what they mean! That means they put pure evil Israel/Zionist agenda above America and our people and are following Protocals of Elder's Zion, i.e. Satan's bible! Jewish people in Israel needs to revolt too and NOW! I heard an excellent comment the other day, and I totally believe it is true, pure evil Israeli leader's use non-existance threat "anti-semtic" fear and continous wars to keep their citizen's in line to keep them from revolting too and keep them from overthrowing their own corrupt as hell leadership too! And if that doesn't do it,Zionists have been known before to murder Jews to make them hate Palenstian's and other Arab's too to start them fighting! It's their MO! They purposedly murderer Jews to start wars or conflicts with other Arab's or dress up as Arab's and kill Jews too! If I were Jewish and lived either in America or Israel, I would be raising so much hell over Zionists, and leadership, too right now! Just like I am raising hell over our mass murdering treasonous bastard illegal stold election Satan worshipping bastard who stold the W.House twice and his cohorts in Congress from BOTH parties too!
Ladies, I think we just had church....
kells | 07.29.07 - 5:08 pm | #
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Great now can we go to Pancake House?
that was a good one.
>> Crooks and Liars Update...
When I tried to repost the following:
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specter=bush=lieberman=clinton=obama=pelosi
AEI=Skull and Bones=CFR=Bilderberg
All want to destroy the sovereignty of the USA as they throw this country deeper into bankruptcy by killimg millions of innocents abroad.
Ony Kucinich/Paul/Gravel are true Americans the rest get jet setted around the world in favor af an elitest world society where all of us get screwed.
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They stripped it before even reviewing.
hahahahahaha
oh yeah I also posted the following link:
http://100777.com/myron
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Way to go faux liberals who are just ensuring a speedy road to totalitarianism-they kept the Hilary outing, guess as long as you mention only one culprit you are safe. Once you start saying they are all equal....freedom of speech no longer exists.
| We need to pray for help from God and Jesus! Big Time! To help fight Satan and his worshipper's!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 3:46 pm |
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Very true words-- well spoken! We're in for the fight of our lives alright!
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 4:28 pm |`````
Ladies, I think we just had church....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ana...against_Fascism
Anarchism is the way we need to strive towards, free-association confederation
We need to pray for help from God and Jesus! Big Time! To help fight Satan and his worshipper's!
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Very true words-- well spoken! We're in for the fight of our lives alright!
31/2 years into the 7 years of tribulation Jesus comes in air , unseen , and the graves open and the ones who died in Christ rise up out of the graves and the living in Christ are caught away with them and we are all together with Jesus.
for the next 31/2 years all hell breaks loose on earth. That is my understanding. Then we return WITH Jesus invisible or what I don't know but we will have new bodies.
I hope I look like that warrior princess person.
Saints are not perfect 911 truther. They just mean well. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. But the road to heaven is too.
Here is how us truthers are perceived by the rest of society..........
10 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h?
v=4UIO2dAGjgE
trial of the faith of the saints. GAK, but I am not a saint! On a different note, does anyone know how Ed Brown is doing?
3 911 victims family members carefully examine the "contents" of the 911 commission report.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h?
v=Ug75diEyiA0
Daniel, the gospels, and Revelation clearly define the persecution and trial of the faith of the saints.
Gabriel Alan King
That is news to me? I thought from what I have been told, which I need to read Bible but I have been told that God will remove his faithful so they will NOT have to go through this, and take them up to rapture is this not so?
GAK, I disagree with you in part! I think Hellary and Obama supporter's want to sooo desperally believe they are different from Bush,etc. that they over look their TRUE stand is NOT much different the mass murderer Bush's! To hear Hellary say she is a Progressive, she is TOTALLY FUCKING FULL OF SHIT! When does she think she is "progressive"? One week before election? Hell her and Bill go on vacation together with Bush Sr. and Jr. for goodness sakes! They ONLY act like they don't get along like rest of NWO player's who try to put on a dog and pony show for us peons! To make us think there is a difference so we don't rise up AND REVOLT! WHICH WE GODDAMN SURE NEED TO AND THE SOONER THE BETTER! We should have ALL had a 2nd American revolution LONG before now, when they murdered JFK! Lazy, Unpatriotic, apathical, f*cking gullible American sheeple are lettiing these treasnous mass murdering Satan worshipping NWO scum destroy America and our freedom's without so much as one shot being fired! IT'S TREASONOUS ON PART OF AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE ALLOWED THIS TREASON TO GO ON THIS LONG! We all should be RIOTING in the streets by now, LONG before now!
911 truther. I totally agree. Don't cross your fingers for a rapture though. Daniel, the gospels, and Revelation clearly define the persecution and trial of the faith of the saints.
Has anyone seen the new HP commercial ? The guy with the tin foil hat talking about children performing mind control on their parents ? ( to get them to buy them a new HP computer ) ?
I cannot believe this. He is seated behind a presidential desk with the flag next to him and a seal behind him.
I agree with you about the "matrix" thing. All I am saying is that both Hillary and Obama are full of shit, and they are contracting for the New World Order. And their supporters are scum. Cause there is so much truth available right now, I am not giving ANYONE an excuse anymore for not knowing it.
GAK, Hellary and Obama, Biden and rest are ALL part of NWO too! Hell, Biden even wrote a book called "How I learned to love the NWO" The ONLY 3 out of whole damn Prez race that I think MAY, key word here MAY not be NWO is Gravel, Kucinich and Paul! All one's who puts America first not Israel or AIPAC or any other nation either for that matter! But we are NOT going to have to worry about voting anyway, because before long there WILL be another false flag attack only this time using nukes, thanks to help from Israeli Mossad again and orginal cast of mass murderer's, Bush WILL declare Marshall Law and he and pure evil cohorts will bomb needlessly, innocent men,women and kids in large part for fellow Zionist Satan worshipper's in Israel leadership, which will make people hate the decent Jews, which is WHY Jews should be against Zionism and alot are, and to start WW3 to bring about the Anti-Christ and then force people into those 800 FEMA camps or take "Mark of Beast" or die! And somewhere in between this, pure evil, supposedly talks with Satan himself, Zionist Rothchild will purposedly collapse our dollar and force us onto
"amero" and into NAU and SPP to the final destruction of America and our precious freedom's too! And somewhere between there after nuking needlessly Iran we will have WW3 and he/they will set off the destruction the like's we have never seen and use ethic bombing to wipe out Chinese to leave their population down to 500,000. And maybe he will use chemical weapons on our own people too, I would NOT put ANY FUCKING PURE EVIL TREASONOUS MASS MURDERING SHIT PAST THEM! Remember he and his equally treasonous mass murdering father will be MOVING to Paragay after the MF'ers totally destroy America and world and even with military security provided by us taxpayer's too! I just pray there is a rapture and God calls me home before the shit hits the fan! We need to pray for help from God and Jesus! Big Time! To help fight Satan and his worshipper's!
Sane. Obama is a stooge, and so is Hillary, and most of their supporters know this, because they are stooges too. The so called "ignorance" of these people is deliberate, and premeditated. It's not really all that complex. They are the "FUCKERS", and we are the good guys.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.29.07 - 3:39 pm | #
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GAK 250-299 million citizens are stooges and under mind control, just like the millions of germans, BUT IT IS NOT FREE WILL AND IT IS NOT DELIBERATELY DONE BY THEM.
If the Germans knew what 1942 Germany would look like, do you think they would have packed the commie, jews, and gays into the trains?
If the citizens in Dresden knew what was comming do you think they would have supported Hitler.
It is our job to dismantal the matrix that keeps the mind control programming, how can you not see that as a signifance piece of the NWO puzzle?
We need to show that the divisions are created by them and that they are BS.
I cannot understand your logic, but I am glad that you are now obviously back at your computer.
The government of Israel, is manipulated and controlled the same way that the rest of the governments of the world are, including America. The commoners of Israel are not to blame, same as the commoners of all countries.
Sane. Obama is a stooge, and so is Hillary, and most of their supporters know this, because they are stooges too. The so called "ignorance" of these people is deliberate, and premeditated. It's not really all that complex. They are the "FUCKERS", and we are the good guys.
THIS SAYS IT ALL! SOO VERY TRUE! With "allies" like Israel WHO the HELL needs ENEMIES?? Israel is NOT a "good ally" fact! This is soo very true!
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Israel will catch theirs you can be sure of that. The Bible says that half of them (that's a lot!) will be taken out before Jesus touches down on the Mount of Olives.
There are many people there who do not even have one drop of Israelite blood in them even though they claim they are of the House of Israel. And like America, the evil leadership has taken complete control.
Plus, Zechariah 14 v.12 says: "And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem. Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth."
I think the Bible pretty well tells it like will be. I sure don't want to have any part of incurring that kind of condemnation.
Like America, Israel still has a lot of good people left. And the last I heard, they are not even allowed to have a seat in the UN, where even Cuba has a place. Talk about discrimination!
Many nations will come and fight against Israel. The only thing that is stopping them is America's intervention...
I do not know if I am Jewish or not. According to my family, I am English, German, a little Scottish, and American Indian. I am also a direct descendant of Isaac Newton. The Caucuses mountains are north of Israel, thus "Caucasians". We might all have a little "Jew" in us.
Beauty is only skin deep.
Fuck Obama and Hillary. I'll cleave those bitches melons in twain with a bastard sword.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.29.07 - 3:25 pm | #
C'mon GAK...the Clinton disinfo people are on too low a level to knoiw that Clinton/Obama work together.
In the meantime, Obama supporters are now going to rightly so question the validity of C&L
then C&L will try to show the support Obama...
this will start pissing off the edwards guys [again too low a level to know they work for the same team]..
until everyone realized that they have been set up to no longer look for truth but that they are being led as to what to believe.
Once they realize this...the matrix is demolished.
just stay 2 steps ahead so that the wizards are forced to change positions on the grand chessboard.
this will confuse the masses so much because they are being forced to take change sides too quickly.
911 truther. If commoners and "couch TV idiots" like you and me can figure out the truth, just imagine what politicians know. Of course parliment was involved! No one gets up the ladder unless they "play ball". Tony Blair is a high ranking Mason and an Illuminist. He even stated that he "channels the light".
WTC WTF? Arabs w/box cutters my ass.
If I lied everyday, I would get drunk too. Here is a good speech from Bush, drunk. If he ain't drunk, then tell me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h?
v=eGU8c7ZoDAI
Gabriel Alan King, Thanks GAK! Are you Jewish? It doesn't matter, but in sane's case he is ungrateful as hell! You said earlier that Parliment was involved too, how so please? And Queen? I have heard MI5 or MI6 were also involved but don't know how? I DO believe they all were involved in 7/7 too though as well as company ICTS too!
Fuck Obama and Hillary. I'll cleave those bitches melons in twain with a bastard sword.
911 is the most obvious and blatant slap in the face to date.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h?
v=Wj5SZb2R2Oc
Guys, just outed Crooks and Liars as a Hillary Clinton site after they kept fucking with my comments .
It was so funny because I just kept posting under the name martial law:
Specter=Bush
then
Specter=Bush=Lieberman
then
Specter=Lieberman=Clinton
then whamo - off topic
so I posted this [which will soon disappear]:
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[Deleted. Your comments are removed not because you are exposing some grand conspiracy, they are removed because they are off topic. Do you have anything to add to the discussion that is actually close to the topic? — Sitemonitor]
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sitemonitor—YES!!!
You are a Clinton Agent, everyone check out the 25 articles about Hilary availabler on this site….notice anything???
notice how Obama gets bashed if he dares talk not nice about Hillary the Queen
Guess we won’t find any Vince Foster murder articles or Waco evidence tampering here will we.
the crybaby comment gave me the hint.
An obama supporter would neversay such a thing.
And don’t bother sending Larry Potts over to “rub me out” We already know all about him and ISI.
Have a nice day
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I still like you 911 truther. Here is how the New World Order is making me feel...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...related&
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And I will NOT be forced to take the "Mark of Beast" either without a fucking huge fight!
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The second you take the "mark of the beast", you belong to them forever. You are like a cow being branded. I just pray I never get put in that position. I will do all that I can to stay out of their control.
Let me tell you something that I have come to believe -- speaking of flight 93:
Not that I have any PROOF of this, nothing more than the otherwise 'circumstancial evidence' I've gathered, but it all sure in the heck seems to lend itself heavy in the direction of proof --
Where does one draw the line on proof and say, 'okay, no murder weapon, but the (1000 and 1) other things sure in the heck make it look like a murder happened' -- when does common sense take over and leave behind all the demands for 100-percent bonafide PROOF before we start believeing what we have? Was that too long a question? Maybe my point was lost, sorry if so.
Let me say this about that -- on September 11th, WE KNOW (by means beyond Minetta's testimony, the same that was omitted from the infamous Commission's report) that Cheney was aware of our land being attacked. And many of us have come to believe (enough proof as it is/common sense logic) that he was most likely involved in not so much being in a bunker but by his actions had something (??) to do with setting events in motion that day. His behavior afterwards adds even more to this belief.
Are any of you aware (you're about to be) that there was plenty of 'hero' types onboard flight 93 that day. I won't mention everyone, just a couple:
-- One of the flight assistants was a former Florida Police Officer (not sure what that really means as far as bringing important credentials into play -- but it suggest that being a police officer they were trained in survival skills (to some degree, they had to be), that's just the way it is -- not the Barney Fife character we might think, but someone capable of really handling themself, most likely); another was a judo expert (an expert, a champion, not a sometimes watch Bruce Lee Kung Fu kind of expert, but a real life EXPERT in a known effective form of self-defense); another was a bonafide pilot.
That last one is the one that brings me to tell you all of this -- a pilot. Not THE pilot of flight 93, but a pilot on board as a passenger kind of pilot.
When those folks got their head together and saw what they were up against (the most likely scenario) they decided to try and do something. Safey in numbers, that's the way it usually is. There was more of us than there was them -- that's for sure -- even as low passenger count as there was on each of the airplanes that we've been told about -- the numbers were in our favor. There is some reason to believe that the flight (93) was being taken back, that certain (heroic) passengers and flight assistants were gaining access to the airplane //
Not saying they succeeded -- we know the results is the airplane didn't make a safe landing any which way it is turned. But the very remote possibility that the passengers were regaining the controls MAY HAVE WORRIED the hell out of one Mr. Cheney.
A man whom you KNOW was fully aware of everything unfolding that day -- surely our technology allows for the communication of ground to air, and in the opposite direction as well // if on and being observed by others // that communication might be reason for worry -- for some.
If the one doing the listening THOUGHT that it might be possible that an airplane could be taken back under control // that control would translate as EVIDENCE (that same kind of PROOF we all like to have) being discovered, being made available.
Perhaps hearing 'we have control' was sufficient to announce to a military escort fighter jet following nearby to SHOOT down the terrorist.
And then cover it up with a story about Heros // How the heros tried, gave it their best, but just couldn't quite save the day. That would be easier to digest than hearing that we (our government) shot down one of our civilian airplanes when we had all the other matters of 9/11 to contend with, i.e., WTC, the Pentagon, etc.
Why add into the mix ANYTHING (??) that might otherwise be grounds for someone to look a bit further into the lies that were being told us -- Keeping us believing all damange was a result of Arabs, why upset the boat and make things more complicated to understand. If it was known that the airplane was shot down it might (and rightfully so) be cause for someone to check into matters deeper to make sure it was as it seemed. Let the matter rest with the people believing that there are 'heros among us' that sent that airplane to the ground, and carry that thought into making even more heroes on the battlefield the one that was (then from that moment on) right around the corner for our sleeping country.
They've done something very similar in the Pat Tillman case. An American was SHOT DOWN and then made the hero on a battfield of lies // Lies that are being question by the family more so than anyone in the government.
What I think happened is the airplane was either taken back or about to be taken back, and the guilty panicked and made sure to dispose of the evidence. Shooting it out of the skies sure took care of that problem-- by speading it over an 8-mile debris field.
If you THINK the guilty are above disposing of evidence -- Let me remind YOU of the WTC steel that was quickly gathered, placed on flatbed trucks each with GPS watching their every move, taken direct to the loading docks where the steel was just as quickly shipped by boat to places far-far away (China, India, etc). They got rid of that evidence as we all watched, in plain sight.
Flight 93 was shot down.
9/11 was an inside job. I think.
"Life is too short and friends, so is freedom.
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Beautifully said, Chris.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 2:13 pm | #
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You Un-American son of a bitch!
Give me your Papers.
Apparently, I am a Conspirator!
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 2:10 pm | #
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What?
You mean to tell me that that you refuse to fall into the goose step with Faux Noise?
You Un-American asshole.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Iraq win Asian Cup!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/...als/
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Iraq have won a historic win in the Asian cup final! A truly momentous day for Iraqi's in Iraq & across the world. Please digg to show your support!
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Great NWO fixed another sporting event to shift dissenting voices; now let's get the fuck out of there!!!!!
Apparently, I am a Conspirator!
http://www.graphictruth.com/
2007...onspiritor.html
Conscientious, web-savvy Conservatives, Libertarians and even Liberals with a civil Libertarian bent are turning toward Ron Paul. This phenomenon is being dismissed by pundits of Left and Right. They say that folks like me represent a conspiracy by just a few dozen fanatic supporters to "spam the web." Damn TASTY spam!
911 truther is a girl? I didn't know.
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No She is a whacho.
But she has the right to say her piece.
rather we agree with it or not.
It let's us see that there really are nut cases out there.
Militarty rule. Nam 1974.
President thu, rode by win his little limo, and motorcade, jeeps and soldieors. The crowd watched from the sidewalks,.
A man reached into his jackaet, the MIl.Police shot the man, he died in the gutter, his two daughters bent over him screaming and crying. The shooters kicked his jacket open and found he was looking for his ciggaretes. ** Martial Law**., they got back in their jeep and left the man in the gutter with his two daughters screaming.
Tre resisters were monks, one lit himlelf on fire in the street with a crowd watching, he was protesting the war in his spiritual fashion.
Mrs. Thui, presidents wife. , laughed and said to the effect another barbeque.
RE:Bush Wants Terrorism Law Updated
"Congress needs to act immediately to pass this bill,"
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No, what Congress needs to do is have this Bastard and all of his cabal arrested and tried for the attempted overthrow of this Republic.
Why is Congress letting this be done to our country?
They want a One World Government!
911 truther is a girl? I didn't know. I don't think he/she has an ulterior motive. Just a differing viewpoint.
Here is some up n' Adam for ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...related&
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RED ALERT - Ed and Elaine Brown UNDER ATTACK! Remember Ruby Ridge and Waco?
http://your-rights.com/permalink...malink/721/
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Subject: shots fired shots fired red alert Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:35 PM 30 to 40 rounds fired behind the house nose heard in the woods every one is at battle stations this in not a drill i repeat this in not a drill -- danny -- WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED THIS EMAIL FROM THE BROWN PROPERTY. START POSTING TO EVERY BLOG, WEBSITE, START EMAILING!
JFK about 9/11 and the emergence of a communist New World Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...?
v=fuiQj1WQzPQ#
Exposes the monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that killed Kennedy after he refused to go along with their plans and warned humanity for everything that has happened since his death. In his speech to the American press, JFK talked about the Illuminati and their ancient goal of a New World Order. This transformation has now been justified by 9/11...
It is Very Easy to be Generous with Taxpayer's Money
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/323
Why did Ron Paul vote against Congressional Gold Medals for Ronald Reagan and Rosa Parks? Because he refuses to spend taxpayer money on unconstitutional authorizations. But he happily offered to spend his own money.
...This is the most corrupt and racist American administration in over 80 years."
- Ken Livingstone, the MAYOR of LONDON
911 truther, don't let the Zionist "Jew" stuff make you dizzy. Evil is more than skin deep.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.29.07 - 1:54 pm | #
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C'mon GAK we have been trying to edumacate her for months, can't you see she has an alterior motif?
its 1984 wher they go back and change history.
History is written by the victorious?
steve | 07.29.07 - 1:50 pm | #
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OK guys, this is where it gets tricky...
when 911-frauder fails, steve mr. NWO walks in quoting the bible and interpreting it in a way to tell us to abndon the constitution in favor of a one world religion.
It is like tag team wrestling with COINTELPRO agents.
It is getting to the point of surreal.
So instead of all the Nazi rhetoric, he brings in all the one world religion communist rhetoric [la verdad is another one btw] where he says the founding fathers should be exposed for their crimes on humanity [interesting argument btw if you do not look deeper into their lives] and that the constitution is already not used so it must be destroyed in favor of a one world inquisition style of justice where people get beheaded in speedy trials with only 2 witnesses deciding a persons guilt and capital punishment.
You'll see stay tuned for the fun!
Good morning Jbrid! And all you fellow truthers. I need a cup o java.
And 911 truther and Sane. My God, I never thought I would come here and see you at each others throats! In the words of Joe from "Team America", the war is out there!
911 truther, don't let the Zionist "Jew" stuff make you dizzy. Evil is more than skin deep.
Falling Down - I want breakfast
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Absolutely great. Thanks for sharing. Great movie.
its 1984 wher they go back and change history.
History is written by the victorious?
Are you looking for a great job?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?
v=Pxsn5Mm6fzA
Be all that you can be.
How in the hell old are you anyway? Ten?
jbrid1138 | 07.29.07 - 1:44 pm | #
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No shit, I thought the same thing the first day she was posting!
jbrid1138 | 07.29.07 - 1:44 pm | #
Once again you come across as a verry wise man i bet you`re a grandfather with alot of experience and wisdom i honor you sir, and keep them posts coming
PP is up and runing now btw
I don't know what your military background is BUT my suggestion is stop telling any of us what soldiers have done by dying for us -- okay. If you can trump my 26-years active duty then go ahead maybe I'll listen a bit more carefully to your words. But right now all you seem to do is rant and carry on like some crazy person who has a little bit of the truth and doesn't seem to 'get it' that others do also. You're not alone in your knowledge, but you sure in the hell are pushing your limit with all your insane insults. They seem based in racial matters (slurs) and NOTHING (even the truth you say) makes your slurs and slanderous remarks acceptable. How in the hell old are you anyway? Ten?
Grow up and knock off all that bullshit language. It gets old quite quick, believe me. I'm sure there might be one or two others out there with your same anger but most of us are angry at those that lie to us (our government) and not so much each other. Wise up. And others out there WAKE UP.
My $.02
Lol nothing gets thru to this guy/lady, you can agre with him defend his right to speak his noncense and he just goes on and on and on like some duracel bunny.
Listen moron we all know the zionist where in on it but dont cheat you self by focusing on only one enemy they are many and as of right now you`re doing them a favor stop with the israel rant already. or are you just some spook or disinfo agent trying to poison this well?
Here is how I start my mornings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=-
eREiQhBDIk
jbrid1138 | 07.29.07 - 1:31 pm | #
I apologize but I really tried the same angle when i first traded posts with her, there are just some people that are under a very deep spell and it is difficult to release them. I really wish it were easier. And I apologize about getting frustrated sometimes. I have a commitment to out the disinfo artists early though but sometimes get wrapped up in it though.
sane, Millions of U.S. servicemen and women have died for YOUR lousy ass and are dying now in large part to warmongering Israel, needlessy as U.S. ALWAYS has to do Israel's fighting for them, and do you CARE, HELL NO, you don't! You ungrateful piece of SHIT, you! Do you even care thousands of American's have died for your assholes like you and are now in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you even care? TELL ME ONE FUCKING THING ISRAEL HAS EVER, EVER DONE FOR AMERICA NOT TO AMERICA, JUST ONE,SANE! I am waiting! Tell me ONE Goddamn thing sane! This "good ally' BULLSHIT has gone on long enough! It's a fucking 1 way street! For a Goddamn fact! Tell me one thing sane Israel has done FOR America NOT to America, just one! THERE IS NONE! NONE! This "good ally" bullshit is just that, ALL one way!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:29 pm | #
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now now frauder, you are commiting a sin to jesus by breaking the 9th commandment with that post. the new inquisition that you are assisting in bringing may use it against you in the future.
who would jesus bear false witness against???
Let's clear up something 911-TRUTHER -- I used your statement as a quote, yes I did, a starting place, it seemed to fit the video link I provided. But I'm pretty damn sure I didn't write that rant (or for that matter go in search of any video for your entertainment alone) // I found myself soon on a rant, not because of you, personally.
And you do take things personally, don't you. No reason to act like that forum buddy. It doesn't accomplish one thing, well yes it does too -- it gets you and others upset in the exchanges I've seen that follow.
Listen, no hard intentions sent your way by me, okay. As to what you said about flight 93, and Rumsfeld, and the flight being shot down. HELL YES -- I believe that 100-percent. Also that stuff yesterday about LARRY SILVERSTEIN and his obvious 'share' in the 9/11 booty-$$ // I believe that too.
But speaking of flight 93, there was considerable research I did on the matter myself. I went and purchased a book by a New York Times reporter, Jere Longman, titled 'Among the Heroes' // still reading it but learning as I go, it's all about flight 93. Also have a book by James M. Ennes, Jr titled "Assault on the Liberty" -- same as in that video clip // Haven't started it yet -- I try and keep as many book going on a given subject as possible. I'm not recommending either of these two, just wanted to relay that I'm reading, and learning. And in that vein, one of my favorite authors is David Ray Griffin, got a couple of his books that I have finished. Those I do recommend to EVERYBODY -- YOU included. Okay, smile a bit, it can't hurt none.
Looking at online web-pages I've discovered news articles written near the time of the SHOOT DOWN // discovered some pretty amazing things that lead me to also believe that the airplane was shot down and nothing resembling the official story version of events. I personally chose NOT to watch the recently released (flop) movie titled Flight 93 because I considered it would most likely be biased. I prefer to push away those things I find I question honesty in or around.
There was mention of an 8-mile debris field, part of it over a large lake that had airplane debris raining down over from the skies above -- people witnessed this happening. The FBI showed up afterwards and carted off large black platic bags full of the stuff. There was a heavy (nearly one-ton) airplane engine part discovered far from the alleged crash site. No bodies, no airplane that was ever reconstructed. Not because the parts were plenty (well maybe that to some degree) but because the evidence would have been clear.
I read about that pilot that did the shooting, from a National Guard base out West if I recall correctly. And here's that Rumfeld slip of the tongue regarding the airplane that was 'SHOT DOWN' over Pennsylvania -- can't get much clearer than this, now can one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=x...search=rumsfeld
Let me close by saying -- relax -- fellow forum member. We're all in this together, the search for the TRUTH. If we encounter someone (??) anyone (??) along our way that start talking about things in the opposite from what we have come to understand // that's okay them doing that // because we know who they are, and them doing that doesn't mean one thing to what the truth really is, now does it. They can try their best to convince us of a LIE but that's getting harder and harder for them to be of any value to those that really did 9/11. We've caught on to their little game and there isn't too awfully much you can do about changing that knowledge.
If you will permit me to say: once the toothpaste is out of the tube // It becomes too hard (certainly not possible) to put it back; that's for sure.
Relax. There's nearly 100 MILLION (or more of us -- ??) out here that know 9/11 was an inside job. Varing degrees of that belief, I realize that -- but the toothpaste is out of the tube. Enough from me.
kells, Your the one who emailed me remember? And you wanted to keep in touch!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:10 pm |
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Yes because you put your info out there. After your first 3 emails I decided not to write you back because you seemed very combative and angry.
I don't know if you work for someone or not on this board but I dont feel like taking any more chances. There are so many unknowns here.
Sorry if I have hurt your feelings, I just don't want to feel vulnerable right now.
sane, Millions of U.S. servicemen and women have died for YOUR lousy ass and are dying now in large part to warmongering Israel, needlessy as U.S. ALWAYS has to do Israel's fighting for them, and do you CARE, HELL NO, you don't! You ungrateful piece of SHIT, you! Do you even care thousands of American's have died for your assholes like you and are now in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you even care? TELL ME ONE FUCKING THING ISRAEL HAS EVER, EVER DONE FOR AMERICA NOT TO AMERICA, JUST ONE,SANE! I am waiting! Tell me ONE Goddamn thing sane! This "good ally' BULLSHIT has gone on long enough! It's a fucking 1 way street! For a Goddamn fact! Tell me one thing sane Israel has done FOR America NOT to America, just one! THERE IS NONE! NONE! This "good ally" bullshit is just that, ALL one way!
sane, Fuck off! The only frauder here and disinformant here is YOU!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:23 pm | #
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Please out of my over 100,000 posts point out one piece of disinformation, just one, please I beg you.
Maybe PP is down becuase the Browns are getting slaughtered this very minute?
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Police: No Activity At Home Of Couple Convicted Of Tax Evasion
WMUR, NH - 5 hours ago
A supporter of Ed and Elaine Brown who is staying at their home tells an online radio station that he heard gunshots at around 11:30 pm on Saturday. ...
http://www.wmur.com/news/1377650...502/
detail.html
Police have released the name of a woman killed in a house fire on ...
Cowichan Valley News Leader, Canada - Jul 28, 2007
Theresa Elaine Brown was named as the lone occupant in the home at the time of the blaze. The cause of the fire that quickly engulfed the home and filled it ...
http://www.cowichannewsleader.co...=1034699&
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[Was this a black ops message to the browns? Look what we can do to another Elaine Brown???]
Israel is the 51st state of the US which is the 5th state of UK [Canada/Australia, yada yada], which is a staging ground for the Vatican's plans, and so on and so on
Just find the traitors no matter where the hell they are from, WIF, how hard is this to see?
sane, Fuck off! The only frauder here and disinformant here is YOU!
I'm very disappointed
almost as if someone got to him.
if we don't expose 9-11 then the BS will continue & WW III will escalate into armageddon.
randy | 07.29.07 - 12:39 pm | #
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-----------The coin has two sides my freind, if he jumped om 911 now he would get buried. Or you may be correct.
One item no Politiciain can run from is WMD's, they did not exist.
I have heard no politician remark on this subject, has anyone????
We know they found few from 1991, we know civilian investigators searched Iraq endlessly a nd found none, We know we invaded a soveriegn country, and found none.
OK, this is not an issue huh, 800,000 innocents were killed, nothong, about 4-5 thousand troopers nothong, Air service troppers dressed as muslims killing police, heard none, oh well , the truth is there, but not in the media, or the halls of congress, jusice department, seanate, FBI, CIAS, NSA, or our illustrious Administration.
I just cant get it, destroy a ntion umder the guise of WMDs and not a squek from anywhere.
my oppinion- it is Insanity.
2006 by Mark Glenn
THIS SAYS IT ALL! SOO VERY TRUE! With "allies" like Israel WHO the HELL needs ENEMIES?? Israel is NOT a "good ally" fact! This is soo very true! And sane, I don't know WHY your worried about survival, you will be in like "flint' when your buddie's in Mossad pull another false flag attack or you turn snitch on patriotic American's one or other! I am sure you and Larry and PNAC group will be in all your glory!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:17 pm | #
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And those are the kind of emails that you will receive when you are the winner of the private room of 911frauder.
Shit after reading this I am going straight to iamthewitness and learn more about the "truth" about 911!!!
Israel, We Bless Thee
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Today, while driving through town, I wound up behind a minivan that had a big sticker on the back. The sticker had an Israeli flag in the middle of it, and under it the quotation from the book of Genesis that reads “I will bless those who bless thee.”
I would like to take this time to list my own reasons for thanking and blessing Israel, our lone ally in the Middle East, for everything she has done for us, since I am quite sure most Americans are unaware of just what kind of friend she has been to us.
For extorting from me and my fellow Americans $4,000,000,000.00 a year for the last 4 decades, we bless thee.
For taking our most sophisticated weapons technology and stealing it for yourself without paying the American patent holders, we bless thee.
For taking that high-tech military technology and selling it to our enemies, such as the Russians and Chinese, thus further endangering us, we bless thee.
For using that weaponry in a sustained attack against a United States ship, the USS Liberty, in an attempt to sink her, thus preventing US servicemen from revealing to the rest of the world information concerning the war crimes they witnessed you commit against Egyptian soldiers in the Sinai Desert during the Six Day War, as well as for the purposes of dragging the US into yet another one of your murderous adventures, we bless thee.
For killing 35 and wounding 170 American sailors aboard the USS Liberty, we bless thee.
For bribing the United States government into covering it up, preventing any justice from being done for the benefit of the families of the lost sailors - as well as the American People, we bless thee.
For sending your agents into Egypt and blowing up American buildings for the purpose of blaming the Arabs in an event known as the Lavon Affair, we bless thee.
For sending your agents into Libya during the Reagan administration, and broadcasting radio messages in Arabic that were designed to sound like “terrorist cell planning” so that the US would initiate military strikes against Khadafi in an event known as Operation Trojan Horse, we bless thee.
For withholding information from us concerning the planned attacks against the US Marine barracks in Lebanon, attacks you knew about through your moles in the Islamic world and about which you deliberately refused to warn us in order to further your interests against the Arabs, we bless thee.
For employing Jonathon Pollard, an American serviceman paid to spy for Israel in order to steal even more of our National Security secrets for your parasitic purposes, we bless thee.
For blackmailing President Clinton through one of your sayanim, Monica Lewinsky, in order to prevent a coherent peace program from being pushed forward between yourself and the Palestinian people whom you have brutalized and murdered for the last 50 years, we bless thee.
For breaking every agreement you have made with your Arab neighbors, stealing their land, displacing, murdering, and treating them like the animals you see them as, we bless thee.
For using your agents within the first Bush administration to involve us in the first Gulf War, causing the deaths of American men and women, and exposing our servicemen to whatever bioweapons were and are responsible which have led to Gulf War Syndrome, we bless thee.
For your role in the September 11 attacks in this country, and for blackmailing and bribing the US government into deporting back to Israel the 100 or more intelligence agents that were arrested after the attacks, we bless thee.
For suppressing the information from the American people of your involvement in the September 11 attacks and sending us in the wrong direction in search of answers, we bless thee.
For using one of your agents in the US Army Weapons Lab to steal anthrax and distribute it into our mail system, terrorizing US citizens and killing several in order to blame the Arabs, we bless thee.
For using your agents in the US Government, namely, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Abrams, and the rest into initiating this war in the Middle East so that you could bring to heel all the enemies you have made during the last 50 years, we bless thee.
For using your agents in the media to lie to us on a minute by minute basis about the war, lying to us as to how “just” this cause is, and what the real reasons behind it are, we bless thee.
For using your agents in the Christian Evangelical community, such as Falwell, Graham, Swaggert, Robertson and the rest who praise you as God’s chosen people and further keep Americans in the dark about who you really are what you have done, and what you are truly about, we bless thee.
For bringing idiots like Limbaugh, Liddy, Hannity, Beck, O’Reilly and Savage to the forefront as paid liars who will support you and further lead Americans astray, we bless thee.
For making America your attack dog, and for sending her sons and daughters to fight and die in all your future wars, we bless thee.
For using your influence in the media to hide the real statistics about the war, the dead and wounded on both sides, we bless thee.
For using us in such a way that not only further inflames the Arab world against us, but as well has succeeded in our alienating ourselves against those nations with whom we have been friendly for over a century, we bless thee.
And finally, for using your influence in our media and academia to flood our minds with pornography and lies, as well as inculcating in us a hatred for our history, religion, and culture, for dividing our nation between races and sexes, and for releasing into our society all of your plagues and filth that have left us a rotted out corpse of a once great nation, oh Israel, our friend,
we bless thee.
2006 by Mark Glenn
THIS SAYS IT ALL! SOO VERY TRUE! With "allies" like Israel WHO the HELL needs ENEMIES?? Israel is NOT a "good ally" fact! This is soo very true! And sane, I don't know WHY your worried about survival, you will be in like "flint' when your buddie's in Mossad pull another false flag attack or you turn snitch on patriotic American's one or other! I am sure you and Larry and PNAC group will be in all your glory!
Hey S. I statred trying to access prison planet since 10:00 AM, i kept getting this quote forbidden entrace to this site.
Is this a computer glich, gov. BS , spy shit.or what.
I know Im not compter wiz, but this one had me going. I know they got me glaged but I didnt know they had this.
CJ
chris jones | 07.29.07 - 1:06 pm | #
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The theory is it is the Israeli...I mean Wiki Defense Force and their black ops.
All I can say is if it is, then PP is about to get 10,000,000 new viewers because one thing that internet users hate is when one group tries to subvert and prevent the freedom of speech of a targeted site.
It is so contrary to the entire purpose of the fricking internet.
So if wki dudes are fucking with PP, then they just helped create PP into a real mainstream Internet site!
Guess they take lessons from 911frauder
GET READY FOR SOME BLOWBACK!!!!!!
kells, Your the one who emailed me remember? And you wanted to keep in touch!
sane, Tell me just 1 fucking thing Israel has ever done FOR AMERICA NOT TO AMERICA? JUST ONE FUCKING THING? And I am not a "Nazi" propaganda you bastard you! My father fought in WW2 for you you asshole, and got his ear drums busted and that is thanks we American's get is assholes like you who think you need to run the fucking world and asshole's like you who are ungratefull as HELL! FUCK YOU SANE! And to think my Dad got his ear drums busted for your sorry, ungrateful ass!
why the hell do people need to email each other anyway? aren't we into open flow of information? what cannot be said here? I never understood the whole, email me shit.
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 12:55 pm |
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I understand it. I have written people who put their info out here, in hopes of making a connection that will continue on long after the internet is gone. This is very real to me with real people, sincere people who I don't want to lose contact with. Haloscan is just a brief window.
sane, A BIG FUCK YOU sane! And I don't spread "Nazi" proganda just truth about how YOUR Zionist friends are trying to kill the rest of us! But hell you don't care do you!? You are a TOTALLY fucking asshole! Figure it out yourself sane on how to survive I am sure you can be a "snitch" when your Zionist mass murder friends pull another 9-11! You'll be in like flint! And I don't get "paid" anything, It's you to gets paid for spreading misinformation about truth about Mossad involvement on 9-11 and truth! YOUR THE ONE GETTING PAID NOT ME!FUCK YOU SANE! A BIG FUCK YOU! I hope you and asshole treasonous Larry Silverstein will be very happy! Your such a piece of shit! you lying bastard you!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:04 pm | #
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Easiest way to have a hater show their true colors, just keep posting truth, and then the truthful comments finally come out.
Nice job!
Even I did not think you were that wacko, wow!
You ever get a restraining order for stalking?
Hey S. I statred trying to access prison planet since 10:00 AM, i kept getting this quote forbidden entrace to this site.
Is this a computer glich, gov. BS , spy shit.or what.
I know Im not compter wiz, but this one had me going. I know they got me glaged but I didnt know they had this.
CJ
In case you guys ever want to drop quotes as if you are really intelligent [hehehe], I'll let you know just one of my favorite sites to rob quotes from:
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/fa...a/
famous_quotes
sane, A BIG FUCK YOU sane! And I don't spread "Nazi" proganda just truth about how YOUR Zionist friends are trying to kill the rest of us! But hell you don't care do you!? You are a TOTALLY fucking asshole! Figure it out yourself sane on how to survive I am sure you can be a "snitch" when your Zionist mass murder friends pull another 9-11! You'll be in like flint! And I don't get "paid" anything, It's you to gets paid for spreading misinformation about truth about Mossad involvement on 9-11 and truth! YOUR THE ONE GETTING PAID NOT ME!FUCK YOU SANE! A BIG FUCK YOU! I hope you and asshole treasonous Larry Silverstein will be very happy! Your such a piece of shit! you lying bastard you!
Love your site sane werry disturbing, to think that those are the pictures the world remembers about america. dicusting and its all being done in your name damn..
Lars | 07.29.07 - 12:59 pm | #
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Seeing how incredibly uninformed and misinformed so many Americans seem to be, I felt strongly, desperately even, the need to get this this information out to people, to wake them up to this danger, so that we might form some sort of defense against this fast creeping, ever growing threat. And like Bill Moyers, I believe that defense has to begin with information: i.e., the truth. I realize I'm just Some Guy, Joe Average Citizen, with even less credibility than Dick Cheney. You may think I'm overstating, exaggerating, hysterical, even paranoid; but I don't expect you to take my word for it. That's why this introduction, (and this site) is bolstered with quotes and interviews with Smart People, people like Walter Cronkite, Bill Moyers, Kurt Vonnegut, Nelson Mandela and the Mayor of London. People who know a little of what's going on. People who are telling us the danger is real, and it's now. You don't have to take my word for anything. But I hope you'll listen and hear them. Your freedom, and your life, and the lives of your family, and the survival of our democracy, our country, and our planet, depend on it. To continue following them down their path of greed, fear and violence can only ultimately destroy us all, in a vicious downward spiral of endless lies, terrorism and war. Did we learn nothing from the example of Israel and Palestine? Did we learn nothing from Vietnam? Did we learn nothing from Watergate and October Surprise and Iran Contra? Did we learn nothing from the the assisted coups and the collusions with dictators and death squads in South and Central America, whose greatest enemies were true Christians and missionaries? Did we learn nothing from the example of Germany in the 1930's? What have we become? What have we allowed ourselves to become? Caught between the comfort of our delusions and the anxiety of fears stoked by our court-appointed rulers, we have blindly followed them down a dark path, possibly of No Return. With fear as a prod, we're being lured into a monumental quagmire--not just in Iraq--but, likely, a world wide conflagration--as in World War III.
About This Site's Creator: JOSEPH BARNEY [A true American Superhero!!!!!!]
Joseph Barney began his career as an illustrator at Continuity Associates in New York, the commercial art studio commandeered by comics legend Neal Adams. He also worked on Madison Avenue, turning out hundreds of storyboards and 'animatics' for TV commercials. He free-lanced as a comic book penciller as well, working on such famous Marvel Comics characters as The Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, and Fantastic Four. In the nineties Joe moved west to work in the burgeoning multimedia arena. Among his recent projects: character design for Broderbund software's Carmen Sandeigo nemesis Chase Devineaux; animation artwork for the CD-ROM games Mysterious Island and Marty the Mouse for Elliot-Portwood Productions; a web adventure comic series for Eplay, an educational children's web site; production paintings and storyboards for the CGI 'cinematics' of Crystal Dynamics' Akuji the Heartless Playstation game; and a 'film noir' comic book for the I.T. consulting firm Xpedior. Joe is also an instructor in comic book illustration at the Academy of Art in San Francisco. You can see some his work at http://www.communicomics.com/
kells, Another thing to get is crank weather radio with capablities to charge cell phone too, or like and they have some with lanterns too,etc. Also stock up on any medications you need and get plenty of pain killer's too!
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C'mon someone else posted that right?
I do not promote the engaging in nick frauding, but sometimes it is humourous.
Love your site sane werry disturbing, to think that those are the pictures the world remembers about america. dicusting and its all being done in your name damn..
"The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact. They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution."
Henry A. Wallace 33rd Vice President of the United States
kells, Another thing to get is crank weather radio with capablities to charge cell phone too, or like and they have some with lanterns too,etc. Also stock up on any medications you need and get plenty of pain killer's too!
Change of pace.
They spent a couple of days and nights on the farm of what would be considered a very poor family.
On their return from their trip, the father asked his son, "How was the trip?"
"It was great, Dad."
"Did you see how poor people live?" the father asked.
"Oh yeah," said the son.
"So, tell me, what did you learn from the trip?" asked the father.
The son answered:
"I saw that we have one dog and they had four.
We have a pool that reaches to the middle of our garden and they have a creek that has no end.
We have imported lanterns in our garden and they have the stars at night.
Our patio reaches to the front yard and they have the whole horizon.
We have a small piece of land to live on and they have fields that go beyond our sight.
We have servants who serve us, but they serve others.
We buy our food, but they grow theirs.
We have walls around our property to protect us, they have friends to protect them."
The boy's father was speechless.
Then his son added, "Thanks Dad for showing me how poor we are."
Isn't perspective a wonderful thing? Makes you wonder what would happen if we all gave thanks for everything we have, instead of worrying about what we don't have.
Appreciate every single thing you have, especially your friends!
"Life is too short and friends, so is freedom.
Lets keep it simple.
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why the hell do people need to email each other anyway? aren't we into open flow of information? what cannot be said here? I never understood the whole, email me shit.
Agreed ?
kells | 07.29.07 - 12:36 pm
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Prepare to get spammed with Nazi propaganda, she gets paid like a few pennies for every COINTELPRO attachment and reference she sends. Use a deleatable email account.
Been there done that.
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 12:45 pm
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On second thought Sue , there is nothing we need to discuss that can't be said right here.
Lets keep it simple.
This does not really bother me much because Wikipidia is not a credible source anyways. Anybody can go on there and type up some bullshit...
One of 9-11 Frauder's good buddies:
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You see it's the Evil Jews at the top who illiminate the the average Jew at the bottom ,then blame it on ,say Germans or 911 truthers .They label them as anti-semitic (through the Jewish controled media no less)The world is outraged then the world rallies behind the Zionist without ever knowing it was the Zionist who did it in the first place .Hence gullible Goyim!Theodor Herzl's plan is almost Flawless it has worked time and time again .You see SAne this leads me to believe that you are either buddy's with Theodor Herzl plan or a useful idiot to it.You defend the Zionist tooth and nail then when confronted you post silly links showing us that ,hey look I have Talked nagatively about the Zionst (sort of).You know damn well what your doing too .I've never said you were stupid ,in fact I think your clever .But I see the pattern in your post's you might be fooling half of this forum probably more, but I'm NOT fooled .You see Sane I'm armed with the Truth it may not be popular(right now) but it will prevail .I think what piss's me of the most about you is that I think that you do know everything about the obvious Zionist /Jew part in it all and you purposely decieve and mislead .I think your a Zionist Sane!
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It is the bad jews, not the good jews.
So the plan is probably to take them out with the same precision we use in Iraq to take out the bad muslims and not the good ones.
This is NWO's favorite trick.
Not all the Sunni's just Al-Qaeda
Not all the Shia's just Iran';s elite fighters
Not all the blacks, just the gangbangers
Not all the Frence, just the ones that live in France...
on and on and on, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
Agreed ?
kells | 07.29.07 - 12:36 pm
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Prepare to get spammed with Nazi propaganda, she gets paid like a few pennies for every COINTELPRO attachment and reference she sends. Use a deleatable email account.
Been there done that.
Has anyone heard how Ed Brown and wife are?
But are YOU to be the judge and jury on an entire people because of geographic boundaries alone that separate us from them
I have NEVER judged an entire people adn YOU damn well know it,too! And I DO HATE ALL ZIONISTS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH JEWS! Because ALL AND I DO MEAN ALL ZIONISTS ARE PURE FUCKING EVIL, EVER LAST ONE OF THEM! NOT to be confused with real Jews! Satan's bible is NOT called the Protocols of Elder's Zion for nothing! Zion as in Zionist,people!
Ron Paul LIVELEAK interview...
Ron Paul is distancing himself further & further from 9-11 truth IMO
the 2 towers & WTC # 7 were absolutely,100% brought down by controlled demolition IMO
if he can't stand with 9-11 truth at least on that much then I can no longer support RP
I thought the Ron Paul campaign would be built on a "truth" platform & if he is going to run away from 9-11 then what else will he run away from in the next year leading up to the elections??
I'm very disappointed
almost as if someone got to him.
if we don't expose 9-11 then the BS will continue & WW III will escalate into armageddon.
jbrid1138, Have I EVER said on this board I hate ALL Jews? NEVER! Have I ever blamed all of Israel for 9-11 NO! And your forgetting Lavon affair and spying on U.S. too! And I DO blame Israeli's THEY COULD HAVE REFUSED! One Israeli pilot DID refuse to bomb our ship the U.S.S. Liberty! And I think the troops who refuse to go to Iraq and Afghanistan are MORE hero's then one's who go and strongly defend them!
kells, Email me OK? We never got to finish our posting and I lost where we were at on board!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 12:23 pm
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I will on two conditions Sue : 1) don't send me anymore huge emails... my computer can't handle it. I have four or five from you right now. I have read your position about our government and who you want for president in your first email , don't keep sending your position to me.
And - 2) don't scream questions at me, it is very upsetting, and I am telling you now , I won't be able to answer you if you do that to me.
Agreed ?
sane, Now WHY in hell would Cheney be pissed that pilot shot down Flight 93 when it was him to ordered it shot down so NO survivor's to tell what REALLY happened? WRONG! Cheney ordered the plane shot down by one Lt.. Rick Gibney! Boy for someone who is supposed to know alot about 9-11 truth YOU KNOW NOTHING or are faking it one! Or are disinformation specialist one! Lt. Rick Gibiney SHOT down Flight 93 but it was NOT to save "Capital" passenger's were winning battle in cockpit, mike was open, Cheney gave orders to shoot down Flight 93 as they couldn't have any LIVE witness's, one sidewiinding missile hit ground, probably on purpose to fake BULLSHIT story of plane crashing or maybe pilot just missed 1st time, then he hit it with another sidewinder missile exploding it in mid-air hence scattered debris and No evidence of crash at site! Hence they gave Lt. Gibney servicemen's medal of honor for doing so 1 year after 9-11, when they said he was a "hero" yet WHY hide fact if he was by giving it to him 1 year later, and quietly in N. Dakota!? FLIGHT 93 WAS SHOT DOWN, THEY COULD NOT AFFORD TO HAVE LIVE WITNESS'S! FACT! There is even a video of the award ceremony too! sane, You don't know truth about 9-11 at all or not all of it!
(snip) And especially NOT Israel who has murdered American's before!
911-TRUTHER
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Yes, understood -- and thinking about that, the attack upon the U.S.S. Liberty jumps to mind.
Seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...related&
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-- BUT -- Now that you've seen that //
Don't fail to understand that the ones doing the attacking were no more loyal or no more less loyal to their government than our own American Forces are to our leaders in charge -- judge accordingly in other words.
Sure they did it, but listen carefully to the dialogue in the video -- How the attacking airplane was reluctant to attack an American ship // the U.S. flag flying proud and strong in the sun in waters near a foreign port // they did it for sure; and did horrific things like machinegun distressed sailors blown over board, left floating in those international waters -- horrible as that truly was and truly sounds. The attackers were following orders issued by their own government -- blessed by OUR own government // corrupt as all that surely was (and is) //
But don't lose sight of the overall //
The attackers were loyal wooden soldiers following orders -- just as our own wooden folk have been known to do, in looking outwards.
Do YOU wish to cut off our own nose by condeming our soldiers also? Is there something I'm missing about the definition of war and what crazy things happen and are capable of happening when a government i turns corrupt?
9/11 jumps back into my head.
But are YOU to be the judge and jury on an entire people because of geographic boundaries alone that separate us from them? They didn't all attack us, now did they.
It wasn't right, it can't be excused, but those are the facts. And then there are those that were subjected to the actual attack -- i.e., those that survived. They went on to live long lives. Threatened lives, no question about it, but long lives, nevertheless.
And I might add that threatened part (??) -- not by Israel -- threatened by OUR government.
A false flag operation that was nearly successful and would have been if there hadn't been witnesses (which has actually persisted withouti prosecution -- this happened back in the 1960s, folks). A time of great confusion in our land, our President had been shot and killed a few years before; what do you call something lke that? Oh yes -- We had gangsters sitting at our table // our controlling governmental tables -- very similar to the way it is now. Probably even stronger now.
So remember YOU few that do lose perspective so easily, there are far greater and finely detailed matters to weigh. It is understood at times these things are much easilier delt with in our own heads if we lay them at the feet of another // such as in al Qaeda //such as in Iraqi // such as those crazy Iranians asking for it -- and while we're at it someone else throws in those unholy North Koreans every now and again just to keep the pot of anger and confusion simmering in stir mode. Add to the mix one-half teaspoon of anger and one shake of patriotic pride, making sure to stir slowly (our government's hand in it) so as not to boil and ruin the soup.
Don't blame Israel // blame their gangster element in charge. They are all brothers and sisters in crime // a thing said like that isn't confined to some religious following you know. Brotherhood knows no silly boundaries either.
Just like you shouldn't blame America for what it's soldiers do (in carrying out orders best they can when people are shooting back at them -- who started what and why (??) is long behind at that point, survival kicks in) // Blame the gangsters in control that are dead set to trick us -- to force us into submission. It's their game.
Be it by the price of gasoline creeping even higher -- evenually the dog eat dog world we live in will DEMAND we take the oil away from under those foreign lands that have it --it being theirs doesn't mean one damn thing // If we want it // if our people DEMAND it -- we (within our government) that can and are willing, are damn well gonna go and get it for them. Even to the degree of thinking what they do is patriotic and well within their own religious concepts // something there about becoming caloused to reality and losing perspective on decency.
Thing is -- it truly doesn't have to be this way.
That dog eat dog 'thought-speak' is the language of gangsters, it's how their individual mind works.
Ours -- the peace-loving Hippies that we are --just want to lve and let live.
Vote Ron Paul 2008. We could do a lot worse. It's worse right now -- for example, turn off the TV and THINK.
My Sunday morning rant. I feel a hell of a lot better now that I got that out of my system. Until later.
Some brave pilot blew the Unmanned aircraft out of the sky and AEI/PNAC/Cheney are so pissed.
sane, Where does it say that at? Where?
kells, Email me OK? We never got to finish our posting and I lost where we were at on board!
Flight 93 WAS SHOT DOWN! Rummie even admitted it once on video! FACT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h?
v=k0v0_HDwg84
Rummie has also admitted missile hit Pentagon and he is right on BOTH counts! FACTS! Period!
I do pray for you my friends but prayers alone wont help God does not hand out favors but he will give you an opurtunity to help you selfs..
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I am looking to God for opportunities to help
us . The prayers will help us hear the Creator as he leads and guides us THROUGH this nightmare and directs our ( my) focus.
My God is a hands-on real- time God Lars . Sorry if I gave you any other impression.
: )
>>>>Continuity of Government is owned by Cheney's Front Group, AEI
http://www.continuityofgovernmen...t.org/
home.html
About the Commission
The Continuity of Government Commission was launched in the fall of 2002 in order to study and recommend reforms to ensure the continuity of our governmental institutions in the event of a catastrophic attack.
The commission is an American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Brookings Institution project headquartered at AEI. It is funded by the Carnegie, Hewlett, Packard, and MacArthur foundations. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford are the honorary co-chairs of the commission and Lloyd Cutler and Alan Simpson are the chairmen. The commission includes members who have served in government at the highest levels.
The commission first focused its attention on preserving Congress, and has now turned to the executive and the Supreme Court. The central issue that the commission addressed is how Congress could function if a large number of members were killed or incapacitated. The problem is most acute in the House of Representatives because the Constitution requires that all vacancies be filled by special election, and it takes four months on average to fill these seats. If there were mass vacancies, the House might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement, or it might operate with a small and unrepresentative number. A second problem is that of incapacity. There is no precedent for filling temporary vacancies so both houses of Congress would be severely diminished, or unable to operate at all, if a large number of members were incapacitated. The events of September 11th led to several ongoing efforts to preserve the continuity of Congress. There was a similar effort in the 1950s and 1960s to deal with these same issues.
In addition, the commission will deal both with the continuity of the Supreme Court, which has a quorum requirement, and with potential reforms to the Presidential Succession Act.The commission met twice in the fall of 2002 to hear testimony and formulate recommendations. It issued a report in June of 2003 on the continuity of Congress. The second phase of the commission has begun addressing presidential succession and will include discussion of continuity in the Supreme Court.
Areas of Investigation
The Continuity of Government Commission will address the continuity of all three branches of government:
Continuity of Congress - The central issue the commission will address is how Congress would function after a terrorist attack. Because of the possibility of large numbers of incapacitated members or vacancies, Congress might not be able to function unless some provision is made to replace members who are deceased or unable to perform their duties. A crippled Congress might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement in a time of crisis.
Presidential Succession - In a second phase of the project, the commission will look at issues surrounding the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, with an eye to ensure that there is a clear transfer of power to the appropriate successor in a time of crisis.
Continuity of the Supreme Court - In the aftermath of a terrorist attack, there might be significant institutional questions over which the Supreme Court would have to rule. The Supreme Court has a quorum requirement of six, and there are a number of other questions about the status of lower court appeals if the Court were disabled for a significant amount of time.
Continuity of Congress But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session. The resulting deaths and injuries might have caused the Congress to cease functioning altogether for a number of months. There are two issues that threaten the continuity of Congress after a terrorist attack: mass vacancies and incapacitated members. The issue of mass vacancies affects the House of Representatives where vacancies are filled only by special election, unlike the Senate where governors may make immediate temporary appointments. Special elections are governed by state laws, and, on average, it takes four months to elect a new member to fill a vacant seat. Depending on the number of vacancies, the House might not even be able to field a quorum, or it might have to operate with a skeleton crew of members not representative of the country as a whole. The second issue of incapacitated members affects both the House and the Senate. Neither body has regular procedures to deal with incapacitated members. In the past, members who have serious incapacities that prevent them from performing their duties were left in place until the end of their terms. If a large number of members were temporarily unable to perform their duties due to injuries or infectious diseases, both bodies might not be able to function because of a lack of a quorum. In the 1950s and 60s, the Senate passed three constitutional amendments giving governors the power to make temporary appointments to fill House vacancies when there were mass vacancies. The House did not act on these measures. After September 11th, Norman Ornstein wrote "What if Congress were Obliterated?" in Roll Call addressing this very issue. On a parallel track, Congressman Brian Baird introduced H.J. Res. 67. A number of other proposals have been introduced or suggested. There have also been a number of hearings before committees in the House.
http://www.continuityofgovernmen...mages/
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Did you guys get that?????
Some brave pilot blew the Unmanned aircraft out of the sky and AEI/PNAC/Cheney are so pissed. Here it is again:
Continuity of Congress: But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session.
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WAKE UP ... Ledeen found Ron Paul to be a great threat to the Neocon agenda back in 2003, what do you suppose Michael Ledeen thinks of Ron Paul now??????
Ledeen is in direct communication with Cheney's Black Ops group and AIPAC.
People need to know who is pulling the strings!
Not that Ledeen is also not just another puppet for NWO, MIC and Energy, but keep climbing up the ladder of treasonous war criminals tather than focusing on the lower steps.
Concerning Ledeen v. Ron Paul
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=13220#116663
Let us look at PNAC/AEI and all of their fine work:
"new pearl harbor"
Iraq War
Surge I
Surge II
Patriot Act
Continuity of Government
Patriot Act II
Military Commissions Act
Iran Plan
North Korea Plan
Plan to remove foreign policy from the president and put the responsibility of an NGO puppet under the code name "War Czar."
Campaign to supress DC Madam phone resords.
Campaign to link VT to 9/11 truthers and/or islamic funamentalist sympathizers.
Smeer campaign against 9/11 truthers-includes the focused campaign to lock up all truthers as mentaly ill and enemies of the state (Fred Thompson revealed a part of this in the Michael Moore video and Kagan revealed it in his writings).
Also the Continuity of Government
I do pray for you my friends but prayers alone wont help God does not hand out favors but he will give you an opurtunity to help you selfs..
"During a war, news should be given out for instruction rather than information." -Joseph Paul Goebbels
The war made possible for us the solution of a whole series of problems that could never have been solved in normal times." -Joseph Paul Goebbels
"Not every item of news should be published. Rather must those who control news policies endeavor to make every item of news serve a certain purpose."-Joseph Paul Goebbels
"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion."-Joseph Paul Goebbels
My dad lost everything when we didnt come back he died a few years later of a "stroke in the brain" yes i know he loved us verry much, problem was the entire family culd not leave someone had to stay behind so that they culd be punished incase we didnt come back,
Lars | 07.29.07 - 11:26 am |
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Oh my God . So sorry.
You are kind to be here in hopes of helping us.
Bless you. If you believe , please pray for us.
Thank you.
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GOEBBELS v. BUSH/Rove
http://bunker.defcode.com/
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Goebbels: Communism with the Mask Off
Bolshevics carry on a campaign, directed by the Jews, with the international underworld, against culture as such. Bolshevism is not merely anti-bourgeois; it is against human civilisation itself.
GWB: State of the Union 9/20/01
The leadership of al Qaeda has great influence in Afghanistan and supports the Taliban regime in controlling most of that country. In Afghanistan, we see al Qaeda's vision for the world.
GWB: Statement by the President in His Address to the Nation 9/11/01
America was targeted for attack because we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining."
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Goebbels: New Year's Eve 31 December 1943
Our people survived so brilliantly the test of enemy air terror during the year 1943 that the enemy can bury the hopes he had for it. The nights of bombing have indeed made us poorer, but also harder. The misery of air terror is to some degree the mortar that holds us together as a nation in the midst of all dangers. Our people have not fallen apart during the nightly fire storms as our enemies hoped and wished, rather have become a firm and unshakable community.
GWB: Statement by the President in His Address to the Nation 9/11/01
The pictures of airplanes flying into buildings, fires burning, huge structures collapsing, have filled us with disbelief, terrible sadness, and a quiet, unyielding anger. These acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. But they have failed; our country is strong.
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Goebbels: Communism with the Mask Off
Bolshevism denies religion as a principle, fundamentally and entirely. It recognises religion only as an "opium for the people". For the help and support of religious belief, however, National Socialism absolutely places in the foreground of its programme a belief in God and that transcendental idealism which has been destined by Nature to bring to expression the racial soul of a nation. Even ignoring the past, the present refutes the stupid and base claims our enemies use to conceal their actions, which oppose or destroy culture. It is a rape of sound understanding to justify the attacks of English or American terror planes on German or Italian cities on cultural grounds.
GWB: President Discusses War on Terrorism 11/8/01
This new enemy seeks to destroy our freedom and impose its views. We value life; the terrorists ruthlessly destroy it. We value education; the terrorists do not believe women should be educated or should have health care, or should leave their homes. We value the right to speak our minds; for the terrorists, free expression can be grounds for execution. We respect people of all faiths and welcome the free practice of religion; our enemy wants to dictate how to think and how to worship even to their fellow Muslims.
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Goebbels: In the Front Ranks
Whether man, woman or child, they were victims of a cynical enemy that is trying to win by evil and perfidious air terror what he is unable to do by force of arms: to break our people's morale. I do not need to talk about that. We all know what this war is about. The enemy himself has told us often enough that, if we are weak, we will have a peace compared to which war is a blessing. They are about an insidious attempt to exterminate the greatest and proudest people on earth. The German nation is resisting with unanimity, strong weapons, and the strong hearts of men, women and children. With unprecedented moral strength, they are withstanding the enemy's insidious attacks, its cowardly assault on their national honor, unity, and steadfastness, Our dead are their witnesses. I wish to speak so loudly here that no one can fail to hear. I stand here as an accuser before the world public. I accuse the enemy of conducting brutal air terror for no other reason than to torture a defenseless civilian population, to inflict sorrow, horrors, pain and death upon them as a way of forcing them to betray their nation. Such an attempt will never succeed. These cowardly deeds will only bring eternal shame on the nations whose governments carry on such contemptible and insidious warfare against women, old people and children. The Anglo-American military leadership differs only in that they not only make no distinctions between men, women and children, but do not even wish to. They intentionally and cynically carry the war to civilian areas, turn them into a battlegrounds, and force women, the aged and children to live and fight like soldiers.
GWB: President Bush's Address on Homeland Security 11/9/01
This enemy tries to hide behind a peaceful faith. But those who celebrate the murder of innocent men, women, and children have no religion, have no conscience, and have no mercy.
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Goebbels: The Winter Crisis is Over
True and loyal allies, the Axis nations, stand at our side. They too are fighting for their lives. Nearly all of Europe is working to support our war effort. The fruits of our common fighting and industry will one day come. After victory, our part of the world will be a powerful continental community comprised of free peoples who have devoted themselves to a great common cause.
GWB: President Discusses Year-End Accomplishments in Cabinet Meeting 12/11/03
Let me make sure everybody understands that men and women from our country, who proudly wear our uniform, risked their life to free Iraq. Men and women from other countries, in a broad coalition, risked their lives to free Iraq. And the expenditure of U.S. dollars will reflect the fact that U.S. troops and other troops risked their life. Now, we want to work with all countries. We have a common goal, and that is to see that Iraq is free and peaceful. It is in every nation's interest that Iraq be free and peaceful. And we welcome contributions, we welcome people's willingness to participate in this difficult, yet important job of rebuilding Iraq.
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Goebbels: Total War
A Bolshevization of the Reich would mean the liquidation of our entire intelligentsia and leadership, and the descent of our workers into Bolshevist-Jewish slavery. They find workers for the Siberian tundra in the forced labor battalions of Moscow, as the Führer said in his proclamation on 30 January.
GWB: Remarks by the President on the Six-Month Anniversary of the September 11th Attacks
Here is what we already know: some states that sponsor terror are seeking or already possess weapons of mass destruction; terrorist groups are hungry for these weapons, and would use them without a hint of conscience. And we know that these weapons, in the hands of terrorists, would unleash blackmail and genocide and chaos.
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Folks, I tuned in Prison planet and this notice turned up, forbidden to enter.
Fimaly I go in, or so it appears, maby Ill have more problems, but is this Gov. playing, a spy reder, or just an internet blip.
Thanks for respnonding.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels
“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over” Joseph Goebbels
“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” Joseph Goebbels
“Intellectual activity is a danger to the building of character” Joseph Goebbels
“Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” Joseph Goebbels
“If the day should ever come when we [the Nazis] must go, if some day we are compelled to leave the scene of history, we will slam the door so hard that the universe will shake and mankind will stand back in stupefaction..” Joseph Goebbels
“Whoever can conquer the street will one day conquer the state, for every form of power politics and any dictatorship-run state has its roots in the street.” Joseph Goebbels
“If we are attacked we can only defend ourselves with guns not with butter.”
Joseph Goebbels
Al Fatah's Nazi training was CIA-sponsored
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/ci...l/cia-
fatah.htm
Historical and Investigative Research - 22 July 2007
by Francisco Gil-White
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/ci...l/cia-
fatah.htm
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The US government has been pushing very hard to give Mahmoud Abbas’s Al Fatah its own state, carved out of the Jewish state. Al Fatah (also known as 'the PLO') was trained in the 1950s by CIA-sponsored German Nazis.
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These facts are not widely known or understood.
During the 1948 war, the United States and Britain assisted the Arab attack against the Israeli Jews, which attack, in the words of Azzam Pasha, secretary general of the Arab League (a British creation), would be “a war of extermination and a momentous massacre, which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades.”[1] The US government placed an arms embargo on the Israeli Jews, and the British government used the troops it still had not evacuated from what had been British Mandate Palestine to help the Arabs, going also to the length of sending the Arab armies captured Nazi officers to assist the genocidal effort [see 1947-48 section].[1a] In spite of all this, the combined Arab armies suffered a bewildering, humiliating defeat in the War of 1948, and perhaps especially so the Egyptian army.
Historian Christopher Simpson has documented, with material obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, that immediately after 1945 the US government began secretly recruiting a great multitude of Nazis, including many notorious war criminals, in order to construct the US intelligence services [see 1945 section]. As the Washington Post wrote in its review of Simpson's book, “It is no longer necessary -- or possible -- to deny the fact: the U.S. government systematically and deliberately recruited active Nazis by the thousands.”[1b] The Washington Post should have written that it was tens of thousands, however.
Frank Wisner was one of the main architects of the absorption of Nazis to create the CIA.[2] Following Egypt’s defeat in the 1948 war, Simpson explains, “Frank Wisner had dispatched his top troubleshooter to the Mideast, Kermit (‘Kim’
Roosevelt, to Cairo as early as 1951 to open secret negotiations with Colonel Gamal Abdel Nasser and his insurgent Society of Free Officers,” who were getting ready to launch a coup d’état in that country.[3]
Egypt loses its genocidal war against Israel; the CIA sends its “top troubleshooter.” A failed genocidal war against Israel is something to fix.
Roosevelt reported to his superiors that there was, in his words, “a large area of agreement” with Nasser. “Nasser asked Roosevelt for aid in building up Egypt’s military intelligence and internal security squads,” the inferiority of which had been demonstrated by their defeat against the Israeli Jews. “So CIA director Allen Dulles turned to [Reinhard] Gehlen in 1953 for help in the Egyptian situation.”[3]
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The article goes into great lengths to uncover the almost 100,000 nazi's got positioned all over the world.
The article however fails to mention the nazi's that also went to israel and that israel is proxied into conflicts of interest when attention needs to be diverted from the superpowers' abuses of power.
It also fails to mention the influential supposedly "pro-israel" people that are more influential at ensuring her demise like AIPAC/Sharon/Zionism/AEI/PNAC/Kissinger/Energy Lobby/Military Lobby
They all are in support of billions in new weaponry to the area guaranteeing that WWIII will be started in the Middle East.
This is an at least 50 year plan that was almost compromised by Sadat and Rabin.
About the only ones talking about both sides of the coin are Ron Paul, Seymore Hersh, PP, Moyers, Feingold, I am sure there are others.
I am so happy for you in your new life Lars. I am sorry about your father though. Is he still in Poland?
He must have loved you very much, and yes, he is a hero.
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My dad lost everything when we didnt come back he died a few years later of a "stroke in the brain" yes i know he loved us verry much, problem was the entire family culd not leave someone had to stay behind so that they culd be punished incase we didnt come back,
I thank you for the kind words though, I`m fine i have no emotional scars other that i hate tyrany and love freedom i live in denmark now wich i consider my country i have a butiful danish wife and two butiful kids i just pray for you my friends. American martial law will be bigger and bether than anything we have seen before
Lars | 07.29.07 - 11:08 am |
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I am so happy for you in your new life Lars. I am sorry about your father though. Is he still in Poland?
He must have loved you very much, and yes, he is a hero.
Immigration_by_the_Numbers
http://video.google.com/videopla...q=numbersusa&
hl
Roy Beck's celebrated demonstration of the population consequences of current U.S. immigration policies has entertained and shocked audiences across the country. This video is packed with the facts and analysis that make moral and practical sense of a complex and highly contentious issue.
I thank you for the kind words though, I`m fine i have no emotional scars other that i hate tyrany and love freedom i live in denmark now wich i consider my country i have a butiful danish wife and two butiful kids i just pray for you my friends. American martial law will be bigger and bether than anything we have seen before
30 Billion Dollars Of Taxpayer Money To Go To Israel For Arms!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/
6920988.stm
So their arming gulf states that hate israel... and israel as well and then some people are naive enough to believe the USA wants peace in middle east.
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WAKE UP!!!
$30 Billion to Israel
$20 Billion to Saudis
$122 Billion for Iraq that always makes its way to ISI in Pakistan that fund the Al-Qaeda war machine and Giza spinoffs in Turkey that fund the Iran war machine
>>HARPER"S REPORTS ON THE BBC DOCUMENTARY-EVEN MENTIONS BUSH!
1934: The Plot Against America. By Scott Horton
http://harpers.org/archive/2007/...07/hbc-
90000651
July 28, 2007
I’m back from the land of heather and thistles, not to mention wee drams and lukewarm ale, but on my way out a friend at the BBC alerted me to this, a not-to-miss program on the BBC this morning, accessible over the next several days by internet. It’s the story of the Plot Against America. I don’t mean the Philip Roth novel, nor even the Sinclair Lewis book, It Can’t Happen Here, but rather the historical events upon which these two works of fiction were based.
In November 1934, federal investigators uncovered an amazing plot involving some two dozen senior businessmen, a good many of them Wall Street financiers, to topple the government of the United States and install a fascist dictatorship. Roth’s novel is developed from several strands of this factual account; he assumed the plot is actually carried out, whereas in fact an alert FDR shut it down but stopped short of retaliatory measures against the plotters. A key element of the plot involved a retired prominent general who was to have raised a private army of 500,000 men from unemployed veterans and who blew the whistle when he learned more of what the plot entailed. The plot was heavily funded and well developed and had strong links with fascist forces abroad. A story in the New York Times and several other newspapers reported on it, and a special Congressional committee was created to conduct an investigation. The records of this committee were scrubbed and sealed away in the National Archives, where they have only recently been made available.
The Congressional committee kept the names of many of the participants under wraps and no criminal action was ever brought against them. But a few names have leaked out. And one is Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the incumbent president. Prescott Bush was of course deep into the business of the Hamburg-America Lines, and had tight relations throughout this period with the new Government that had come to power in Germany a year earlier under Chancellor Aldoph Hitler. It appears that Bush was to have formed a key liaison for the group with the new German government.
Prescott Bush, of course, went on to service as a U.S. Senator from Connecticut, and his son, George H.W. Bush emerged from World War II as a hero.
The Plot Against America portrayed in this episode of the BBC series “Document” gives fascinating insight into a dark and little known piece of American history in which the nation stood on the brink of betrayal. The role of the most powerful political dynastic family in the nation’s history in this whole affair is shocking.
Thank you Lars.
I have a huge amount of respect for people who have already been through what we, by all indications, will be facing soon.
How are you doing now ?
God bless you and keep posting friend
kells | 07.29.07 - 10:03 am | #
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Im not some hero i wass just a kid, and me my brother and mum where able to flee the county in 86 ( my grandfather was a policeman) but we had to leave our dad and everything behind, my dad sacrificed him self so we culd live in freedom hes the hero,
General Clark's Hackers, LimeWire, and over 200 classified documents
http://www.betanews.com/article/...Wire/
1185501675
Speaking on behalf of a security software he a board member of, the Former General and Presidential Candidate, Wesley Clark reported findings that his company was able to access and compromise US Government information security through LimeWire.
Iraqi security forces & U.S. advisors [WTF is a US advisor???] battle Mahdi Army in Karbala
http://billroggio.com/archives/
2...ity_force_2.php
While al Qaeda in Iraq has been identified as the primary enemy by the U.S. military leadership in Iraq, Coalition and Iraq security forces have aggressively pursued the Iranian-backed "rogue" elements of the Mahdi Army and the Special Groups. Over the past two days, Iraqi security forces, backed by U.S. Special Forces advisors, conducted two. . .
Al Sadr Wants U.N. To Make America Stop Attacking His Army
http://patdollard.com/2007/07/27...cking-his-army/
In a weird ploy, he claims the U.S. wants to attack specific towns where his army is entrenched not to attack his army, but to commit mass murder against civilians.
America's Enemies Within the CIA [Book Release]
http://www.sabotagebook.com/offe...r.php?
id=SAB002
Since the attacks on September 11, 2001, intelligence collection has become the number-one weapon in the effort to defeat al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. A plot penetrated is an attack stopped. And to the outside observer, the CIA has performed well as a key partner in the Bush administration’s War on Terror. But as Rowan Scarborough reveals in this groundbreaking new book, Sabotage, significant elements within the CIA are undermining both the president and national security through leaks, false allegations, and outright sabotage.
Using his first-rate sources in all levels of national security—from field officers to high-ranking analysts to former intelligence heads—Scarborough paints a disturbing picture of partisan politics endangering the success of our campaigns abroad and the very lives of our soldiers and agents.
Mining of Data Prompted Fight Over Warrantless Surveillance
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...serland&
emc=rss
A fierce dispute within the Bush administration in early 2004 over a National Security Agency warrantless surveillance program was related to concerns about the NSA's searches of huge computer databases, the New York Times reported today.
Liberal Activists Step Up Campaign Against FOX News
Sunday, July 29, 2007
http://www.foxnews.com/story/
0,2...,291246,00.html
NEW YORK — Liberal activists are stepping up their campaign against FOX News Channel by pressuring advertisers not to patronize the network. MoveOn.org, the Campaign for America's Future and liberal blogs like DailyKos.com are asking thousands of supporters to monitor who is advertising on the network, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. Once a database is gathered, an organized phone-calling campaign will begin, said Jim Gilliam, vice president of media strategy for Brave New Films, a company that has made anti-FOX videos.The groups have successfully pressured Democratic presidential candidates not to appear at any debate sponsored by FOX, and are also trying to get Home Depot Inc. to stop advertising there. At least 5,000 people across the U.S. have signed up to compile logs on who is running commercials on FOX, Gilliam said. The groups want to first concentrate on businesses running local ads, as opposed to national commercials. "It's a lot more effective for Sam's Diner to get calls from 10 people in his town than going to the consumer complaint department of some pharmaceutical company," Gilliam said. Some of the videos produced by Gilliam's company compile statements made by FOX anchors and guests that the activists consider misleading, such as those that question global warming. Representatives for FOX News Channel did not immediately return calls for comment. Home Depot has not had an unusual number of calls, said spokesman Jerry Shields, and the home improvement chain will not change its advertising strategy. "We're not in the business of censoring media," Shields said. "We need to reach our customer base through all mediums available." Groups like the Sierra Club have targeted Home Depot because they believe it's inconsistent for the company to promote environmentally friendly products while advertising on a network that has questioned global warming. The groups seem particularly angry at FOX's Bill O'Reilly, who has done critical reports on left-wing bloggers. On July 16, O'Reilly said the DailyKos.com Web site is "hate of the worst order," and sent a reporter to question JetBlue Airways Corp. CEO Dave Barger about the airline's sponsorship of a gathering run by DailyKos. He'll never ride on JetBlue again, O'Reilly said. FOX said JetBlue has since asked that its name be removed from the DailyKos.com Web site. MoveOn.org is campaigning against FOX because it says the network characterizes itself as a fair news network when it consistently favors a conservative point of view, said Adam Green, the organization's spokesman. "We're not trying to silence anybody," Green said. "(Conservative radio talk show host) Rush Limbaugh has a right to be on the air — he admits his point of view. FOX doesn't."
[Disclaimer:] FOX News is owned by News Corp., the parent company of FOXNews.com
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Let me repeat the sentence in this FOXNews.com article:
"Representatives for FOX News Channel did not immediately return calls for comment."
And then...
"FOX News is owned by News Corp., the parent company of FOXNews.com"
Priceless!
How a district attorney can legally abuse children
http://freestudents.blogspot.com...ally-
abuse.html
Students in a Oregon school routinely swatted each other on the butt. But two have been singled out for prosecution and face the potetial of prison time and being registered as sex offenders. Here are the facts, including the prosecutor ’s defense of his actions and what you can do about this injustice.
I know that living in it can make one blind to it. But looking from outside with a bigger perspective america is already a military dictatorship people just dont know it yet because fox news tels them everything is a-ok.
Its not a-ok friends you never had any support from the rest of the world to invade iraq it was a lie there was big protests all over the world, they used your good name to comit war crimes torture etc. the world is looking at america with dicust and laughter at it, but its a nervus laughter America is a giant and when it falls it will shake us all. I just cant belive you culd let it go so far its incredible you where once my heroes the beacon of freedom and justice in the world and in 10 years its all down the drain you will be free once again all dictators fall, maybe it will be a good lesson for all the sheep living in a dream, creating their own reality. my hart is with all you patriots though you dont deserve this
>>>HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Ledeen v. Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is from 2003!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same shit they started doing with Senator Wellstone before they executed him and his family in a sacrificial rite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Ledeen is one of the wizards wt American Enterprise Institute that is a key suspect in the 3,000 deaths of American citizens on 9/11/2001, the over 10,000 American soldiers that have already died in Iraq and Afghanistan, the over 1,000,000 Ameriucan soldiers that will slow bleed from DU, PTSD, and other nasty Ledeen inspired war wounds, the over 1,000,000 dead innocent women and children in Iraq, the over 1,000,000 Ledeen policy inspired muslim prostitutes, and the over 5,000,000 displaced.
Here is Ledeen's article in 2003 about Dr. Ron Paul, anyone now wonder who the real traitors to the constitution are????
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Dishonorable Congressman
RE: Ron Paul.
http://www.nationalreview.com/
le...edeen091003.asp
In July 10, Ron Paul, a congressman from Texas, delivered a tirade against his version of neoconservatism. He called it "Neo-Conned!" and he posted it on his website and had it distributed as best he could. A considerable part of it is devoted to his version of my writings, and is so inaccurate, so distorted, and so nasty, as to make me wish once again that this country had a decent libel law so that I could at least get some money from him and give him a healthy dose of the public humiliation he deserves. Unfortunately, members of Congress are protected from such suits. We've exchanged a few e-mails, and the best he could come up with was a generic "if I've gotten it wrong, I'm sorry," which is clearly not good enough from a man who accuses me of advocating the very opposite of what I have clearly written. He makes me into an advocate of big government, when I wrote Freedom Betrayed, a book that calls for open revolution against expanding governmental power. He brands me an advocate of military invasion of Iran, when I've written scores of articles and a good chunk of a well-known book, The War Against the Terror Masters, that explicitly defines military action against Iran a mistake. I want political action.
He takes many of my descriptions of Machiavelli's thought (from my Machiavelli on Modern Leadership) and turns them — often in distorted form — into my own advocacy. It's hard to explain to someone who doesn't read very well that there's a difference between authors and the subjects they write about. And he hasn't bothered to read my Tocqueville on American Character, in which I discuss the urgency of combating centralized state power and the centrality of human freedom in modern conflict.
The worst of Ron Paul's diatribe is his total sliming of all those he calls neocons. He says that, among other crazy and dangerous beliefs they (and therefore I): accept the notion that the ends justify the means; express no opposition to the welfare state; believe pertinent facts about how a society should be run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not have the courage to deal with it; hold Leo Strauss in high esteem; say that 9/11 resulted from the like of foreign entanglements, not from too many; endorse attacks on civil liberties, such as those in the Patriot Act; unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party. The last is the usual garbage from extremists who don't like Jews. The rest are wrong. The "ends and means" nonsense isn't even Machiavelli, although Paul thinks it is. He says "there is a recognized philosophic connection between modern-day neoconservatives and Irving Kristol, Leo Strauss, and Machiavelli." More nonsense. In fact, when Irving Kristol commented on my Machiavelli book, he went out of his way to criticize me for writing on such a subject, because he felt so negatively about Machiavelli.
The heart of Paul's attack on me is this paragraph:
In Ledeen's most recent publication, The War Against the Terror Masters, he reiterates his beliefs outlined in this 1999 Machaivelli book. He specifically praises: "Creative destruction…both within our own society and abroad…(foreigners) seeing America undo traditional societies may fear us, for they do not wish to be undone." Amazingly, Ledeen concludes: "They must attack us in order to survive, just as we must destroy them to advance our historic mission." If those words don't scare you, nothing will? He conveniently leaves out the context, which is a discussion of the basic conflict between us and the terror masters: a conflict between freedom and tyranny. I argue, as I argued during the Cold War with regard to Communism, and as I argued in my books on fascism earlier, that the conflict between America and tyrants is inevitable. It stems from the very nature of America, from our unique freedom and creativity, which has often been described as "creative destruction." Every serious writer about America has noticed the amazing speed with which we scrap old ideas, technologies, art forms and even the use of the English language. And it's obvious that more rigid societies, particularly those governed by tyrants, are frightened by the effects and the appeal of freedom on their own subjects. Our existence threatens them, undermines their legitimacy, and subverts their power. Therefore "they must attack us in order to survive," and, sooner or later, we must confront them and, I hope and trust, defeat them in order to advance our mission of spreading freedom. It should embarrass Congressman Paul to publicly expose himself as an ignoramus and a fool, and if he had the integrity he so loudly proclaims in his own behalf, he would have quietly apologized. But no; he just offers a weasely e-mail. A final point: Paul's accusations are not simply political disagreements, and his language is not merely critical. He is trying to demonize an entire group of people. He says we are not only wrong, but morally evil and an active danger to American society and the peace of the world. His attack, like those coming from the likes of Pat Buchanan and extremists on the other end of the political spectrum (look at David Frum's recent encounter with some of my leftist attackers), are incitements to personal violence. And this self-proclaimed libertarian hides behind the skirts of the very nanny state he so loudly deplores. If we had a libel law worthy of the name, he'd either quickly correct his statements and apologize to those he's libeled, or find himself looking for the money to pay the damages he has certainly incurred.— Michael Ledeen, an NRO contributing editor, is most recently the author of The War Against the Terror Masters. Ledeen is resident Scholar in the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute.
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Dr. Ron Paul wrote about these fuckers back in 2003 and Ledeen felt he had authority back then to show how the neo-con stand of giving up liberty for freedom and killing for peace was right and just and american.
Well almost 4 years later, let us see who is the honorable congressman and who is the mass murdering war criminal and traitor to this beautiful country!
Apple and AT&T a marriage made in hell?
http://www.itwire.com.au/content...ent/view/13746/
When Steve Jobs gave the stage at Macworld to the CEO of Cingular Stan Sigman to announce the Apple-AT&T collaboration, it seemed an unlikely marriage. Jobs in jeans and long sleeved black T-shirt and Sigman in his suit reading from cue cards. Are signs emerging that it was a marriage made in hell? AT&T sales staff don't seem to want to sell iPhone
>>>Action Alert: Executive Order signed July 17th could affect YOU!
http://www.opednews.com/
articles...t_3a__execu.htm
If you think this EO applies only to those who have committed or intend to commit acts of violence, then read the words again: It applies to any person who poses "a significant risk of committing an act of violence." Who would that be?It is an affront to common sense and a travesty of justice to punish people for crimes they did not commit
Bush to Congress: Trust me, we will only spy on foreigners
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com...calls-on-
c.html
Bush is calling on Congress to "modernize" FISA because terrorists use disposable cell phones and the Internet.
YouTube preps video fingerprinting
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20070....9RiILlk1ojtBAF
Google Inc.'s YouTube hopes recognition technology will be in place in September to stop the posting of copyrighted videos on the popular Web site, a lawyer Friday told a judge presiding over copyright lawsuits.
Ron Paul: Protecting Your Tax Dollars
http://principledpolitics.blogsp...ax-
dollars.html
What will Ron Paul do to protect your money? Will he deny a friend a prestigious award? Will he donate his money? Will he stand alone for what is right? Watch...and find out.
HOW CAN ANYONE DEFEND THE 800 CONCENTRATION CAMPS
HOW FAR HAVE WE GONE????
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 10:21 am | #
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I agre the camps are scary, and shuld wake everyone up they are not building them for fun.
Ron Paul - San Antonio Rally
http://www.mysanantonio.com/
news...ok.31d8592.html
In a brief speech to more than 200 supporters, Paul, a physician, called for abolishing the income tax and the Federal Reserve system, getting out of the United Nations and pulling troops from Iraq.
what i remember the most was the fear of sniches, you culdnt trust your family friends or even your own kids,
Lars | 07.29.07 - 10:15 am | #
WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE
they are gonna crash the market/cheney will issue the false flag/bird flu keeps popping up
It does not matter how
THERE SHOULD NEVER BE CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN THE US!
Please show me in the constitution where it says we need concentration camps
HOW CAN ANYONE DEFEND THE 800 CONCENTRATION CAMPS
HOW FAR HAVE WE GONE????
Paul Beats Romney, Giuliani and McCain
http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/r...aul-beats-
.html
Today, Ron Paul received more votes in the Georgetown County (South Carolina) Republican Party presidential primary straw poll than did Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani and John McCain. Congressman Paul was second in the poll. Fred Thompson placed first.
According to a press release issued today by Georgetown County Republican Chairman Tom Swatzel, there were 223 total votes cast. He said, "For our first ever straw poll, I am pleased with the turn out. It was an enthusiastic crowd that was the essence of grassroots politics at its best."
Romney's economic record - The Boston Globe
http://www.boston.com/news/globe...conomic_record/
AS MITT ROMNEY pursues his bid for the presidency, his record as Massachusetts governor will come under scrutiny, including how the state's economy performed during his administration. Our analysis reveals a weak comparative economic performance of the state over the Romney years, one of the worst in the country.
You can foget any thing about ellections, unions etc. only few people had tellephones, there was work for every one even tho you had 5 people doing the job of one if u didnt work or go to school you wuld disapher, any free thinker peole with higher education where closely monitored. what i remember the most was the fear of sniches, you culdnt trust your family friends or even your own kids, and the mille long ques for toilet paper and bread. But this was all long time ago and werry low tech i cant even imagine what its gonna be like in us with all the high tech hardware cameras. drones, micro chips etc. Well America always does anything bigger and bether damn. from what i hear you wont even be able to hide in the forests with metal detectors wires and treetop cameras being set up there to, I pray for you my friends
Amputations bring health crisis to Iraq
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/
w...2137035,00.html
Peter Beaumont in Mosul Sunday July 29, 2007The Observer
Iraq is facing a hidden healthcare and social crisis over the soaring number of amputations, largely of lower limbs, necessitated by the daily explosions and violence gripping the country. In the north of Iraq, the Red Crescent Society and the director general for health services in Mosul have told US forces, there is a requirement for up to 3,000 replacement limbs a year. If that estimate is applied across the country, it suggests an acute and looming long-term health challenge that has been largely ignored by the world.
I was just a kid back then but here is what i remember: we had russian troops with tanks and machine guns in the streets, talking to them or even looking at them was a no no, you shuld always cary your papers on you, no right to guns no right to leave the country, food and every essential you shuld have stams for you got a sheet each month with so many stamps and and if there was anny you culd only buy so and do much bread, milk etc. the police had special rights like bether food and housing. all religion was banned and churches closed. sniches everywhere parrents afraid of their own kids might say something in shool. people disaphear in the night. i especialy remember one time i woke up in the night and went to the kitchen to get a glass of wather i found my father sitting there listening to a scrambled radio station (radio bbc) he quickly jumped on hes feet grabed me i culd se the fear in his eyes he held me tight and told me i was never to say anything to anyone about this or they wuld take him and my mum. wather and electicity was cut at random during the day, i`ll write more as i come to think of it, need to take a litle break my son is hungry be back in a few :P
Lars | 07.29.07 - 10:00 am | #
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Please share as many stories as possible, they may mean nothing to you, but to us they may be our salvation!
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
you forget one thing sane stock pilling any thing will be a crime and make you the first targert. just a word of advice i lived with martial law for 10 years in polland
Lars | 07.29.07 - 9:40 am |
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Thank you Lars.
I have a huge amount of respect for people who have already been through what we, by all indications, will be facing soon.
How are you doing now ?
God bless you and keep posting friend
Coming up next: The human sensor web
http://www.ogleearth.com/2007/
07...ng_up_next.html
Suddenly it is all so clear: The next big corporate race is going to be getting the biggest mobile crowdsourcing network. Mobile location-aware communications devices will make great georeferenced information collection networks, perfect for data-mining. The corporate challenge: Building, buying or otherwise gaining access to such a network.
Cops vs. Nazis in german anti-fascism protest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...h?
v=oXNqJSTv1BQ
Like the title says... interesting video
please share as much as you can because it is obviously coming
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 9:48 am | #
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I was just a kid back then but here is what i remember: we had russian troops with tanks and machine guns in the streets, talking to them or even looking at them was a no no, you shuld always cary your papers on you, no right to guns no right to leave the country, food and every essential you shuld have stams for you got a sheet each month with so many stamps and and if there was anny you culd only buy so and do much bread, milk etc. the police had special rights like bether food and housing. all religion was banned and churches closed. sniches everywhere parrents afraid of their own kids might say something in shool. people disaphear in the night. i especialy remember one time i woke up in the night and went to the kitchen to get a glass of wather i found my father sitting there listening to a scrambled radio station (radio bbc) he quickly jumped on hes feet grabed me i culd se the fear in his eyes he held me tight and told me i was never to say anything to anyone about this or they wuld take him and my mum. wather and electicity was cut at random during the day, i`ll write more as i come to think of it, need to take a litle break my son is hungry be back in a few :P
Does Jeff Gannon Run LittleGreenFootballs?
http://cindysbeentrippin.com/blog/?p=46
Just ran across this blog, looks pretty big. LGF sure have his psuedoconservative scare the masses with terrorism sham down while they slam anyone that doesn ’t goose step a long with the Bush / Cheney failed ideology. I bet they’ve never mentioned how Rudy Giuliani likes to dress as a woman before...
FIGHT THE POWER:
http://www.ufovideo.net
Wonder if it was a server problem or Spook Hackers why PrisonPlanet vanished?!?
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Gravel Exhibits True Courage
http://cdnfreepress.zakyoung.com...&id=82&
Itemid=3
Mike Gravel demonstrates leadership and bravery on the presidential campaign trail.
is it me or was prision planet hacked last night by the people who own wikipidea and possible other crooks
tom | 07.29.07 - 9:41 am | #
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If it was hacked by wiki agents then PP is about to get the biggest jump in free marketing, nothing promotes a site more than when one piece of the internet ostensibly and recklessly tried to dominate another.
wiki dudes, do it again and again....
10,000,000 new net users will be drawn to PP wondering why wiki even gives a shit
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 9:51 am | #
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First they ignore you...
then they ridicule you...
then they fight you...
then you win.
-Gandhi
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http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi...cgi?
read=106835
This is good advice! Found it somewhere yesterday! That list sane, I got yesterday is imcomplete alittle, it forgot food! Plus, a crank weather radio with ablities to charge cell phone is good to get too. Plus rope, duct tape too.
is it me or was prision planet hacked last night by the people who own wikipidea and possible other crooks
tom | 07.29.07 - 9:41 am | #
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If it was hacked by wiki agents then PP is about to get the biggest jump in free marketing, nothing promotes a site more than when one piece of the internet ostensibly and recklessly tried to dominate another.
wiki dudes, do it again and again....
10,000,000 new net users will be drawn to PP wondering why wiki even gives a shit
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good 2 c the site is backup
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...7martiallaw.htm
This needs to be spread widely and fast! IF thiis dont wake sheeple up NOTHING WILL! IF this doesn't scare the HELL out of every American NOTHING FUCKING WILL!
you forget one thing sane stock pilling any thing will be a crime and make you the first targert. just a word of advice i lived with martial law for 10 years in polland
Lars | 07.29.07 - 9:40 am | #
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You need to educate us, just expose wildly what it is like under martial law.
what is it like on the streets, talking with friends, family
public spaces
phone calls
gun laws
walking with papers
elections
food distribution
power outages
missing people
please share as much as you can because it is obviously coming
Truther i like you bether without the swearing bro :P i can uderstand you`re mad though im not even in usa and im freaked out,
How the Electoral College Works
http://people.howstuffworks.com/...ral-
college.htm
After the 2000 U.S. presidential election, just about everybody in the United States was talking about the Electoral College. In the end, of course, Gore won the popular vote (more Americans voted for him), but Bush actually won the presidency, because he was awarded the majority of the votes in the Electoral College.
Anybody know how Ed and wife are? I pray they are OK! How did someone here know shots have been fired?
Ron Paul vs Patriot Act
http://www.peekvids.com/ron-paul...vs-patriot-act/
Presidential candidate Ron Paul discusses the pitfalls of the Patriot Act.
you forget one thing sane stock pilling any thing will be a crime and make you the first targert. just a word of advice i lived with martial law for 10 years in polland
Lars
A BIG FUCK THE GOV"T! If they think I or my family is going to starve or do without they can GO FUCK THEMSELVES PERIOD! And I will NOT be forced to take the "Mark of Beast" either without a fucking huge fight!
is it me or was prision planet hacked last night by the people who own wikipidea and possible other crooks
you forget one thing sane stock pilling any thing will be a crime and make you the first targert. just a word of advice i lived with martial law for 10 years in polland
Prisonplanet up and running
(TIME) Giuliani To Skip YouTube Debates
http://www.time.com/time/
printou...1647805,00.html
The Rudy Giuliani campaign has cited scheduling conflicts in saying it will skip the Republican version of this week's Democratic debate, while Mitt Romney has mocked the seriousness of the questions and also seems likely to withdraw.
The Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency
http://baconreport.blogspot.com/...rst-
during.html
1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.)
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
More...
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Of course thanks to bush the real first things to go are the constitution and the bill of rights!
NY Times calls for the impeachment of Alberto Gonzales
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...igg&
exprod=digg
Americans have been waiting months for President Bush to fire Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who long ago proved that he was incompetent and more recently has proved that he can't tell the truth.
Iraq war veteran kills self after VA denies psychiatric help
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Sat...icle%
2FShowFull
This is how the Bush Administration supports our troops....23-year-old Jeffrey Lucey killed himself after he returned from a tour of duty in Iraq, asked for treatment of mental problems and was denied by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.
Action alert
BREAKING: Twin Towers Actually Brought Down By Planes and Fire
http://www.popularmechanics.com/...aw/
1227842.html
The conspiracy theorists have let their flawed logic and painful gaps in reason show on Digg, now it's time to fight back against mindless conjectures. If you're of the sane group of people who believe what actual science, the experts, and the processes of millions of rational minds have already concluded, then digg this. 9/11 wasn't an inside job.
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i challenge anyone to find anything in that post that is real and not a "mind control" induced "fact"
9/11 Victim's Family Member Demands News Coverage, Brings Story to Media
http://www.jonesreport.com/
artic..._911_media.html
During a rally cry for more groups within the anti-war movement to help expose 9/11 truth, Manny Badillo, whose uncle, Thomas J. Sgroi, died in the WTC Towers on September 11, took time out to bullhorn a local news van in attempt to persuade greater news coverage of 9/11 truth. How could you blame victim's families for wanting real answers?
WACO: The Big Lie/ ATF agent shoots at 3 ATF former Clinton bodyguards.
http://video.google.com/
videopla...116450757675658
Great video and explanation of what happened at WACO April 19, 1993. See an ATF agent apparently throw a grenade and fire into the building after 3 other agents had just entered. The 3 were former Clinton bodyguards and were 3 or the 4 agents killed during the raid.
Google" account security" - In favor of the hacker?! - This may shock you.
http://geekishrantings.blogspot....n-favor-
of.html
Some of you may be familiar with how Google account security works, I unfortunately, was not. A hacker is having a little party in my Google account right now, but what is worse, is just how EASY Google makes hostile ACCOUNT TAKE-OVER (for the hacker) & how helpless you will be, if this ever happens to you. Read this and protect yourself!
The EU constitution is back and more dangerous than ever!
http://infowars.com/articles/
nwo...s_than_ever.htm
Do you remember the European Constitution? Yes, the one rejected by the French and Dutch? That same European Constitution on which the Labour Government promised the British people a referendum before the last General Election?
Google Sued to De-list Scientology Critics' Site
http://www.chillingeffects.org/d...gi?
NoticeID=232
Don't hate Scientology they will sue ya, or worse. The site in question was www.xenu.net
Smoking Gun Leads to Oval Office
http://thelibertysphere.blogspot...val-
office.html
Important and shocking facts have surfaced within the last few days that may indicate high level corruption at the Bush White House. These facts may well lead straight to the Oval Office itself.
Breaking News! Ed & Elaine Brown Fired Upon.
http://patriotessdame.wordpress....&day=2007-07-
28
Red Alert! Shots Fired! Ed & Elaine Brown under attack around 11:45 PM eastern time Saturday night. This was not a drill, 20-30 shots were fired near the duck pond on their property. No one was injured.
>>Cheney determined to strike in US with WMD this summer; only impeachment and removal, or a general strike, can stop him
By Webster G. Tarpley
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/
...icle_2220.shtml
The greatest threat now is “a 9/11 occurring with a group of terrorists armed not with airline tickets and box cutters, but with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities.” --Dick Cheney on Face the Nation, CBS, April 15, 2007
A few days ago, a group of lawyers from western Massachusetts met with the local congressman, Democrat John Olver. Their request was that Olver take part in the urgent effort to impeach Bush and Cheney. Olver responded by saying that he had no intention of doing anything to support impeachment. He went further, offering the information that the United States would soon attack Iran, and that these hostilities would be followed by the imposition of a martial law regime here.
According to reports in the British press, the Cheney war party has gained the upper hand in the secret councils of the Bush White House, pushing aside the purported hesitations of Miss Rice, Secretary Gates, and the NATO allies to chart a direct course towards war with Iran:
‘The balance in the internal White House debate over Iran has shifted back in favour of military action before President George Bush leaves office in 18 months, the Guardian has learned. The shift follows an internal review involving the White House, the Pentagon and the state department over the last month. Although the Bush administration is in deep trouble over Iraq, it remains focused on Iran. A well-placed source in Washington said: "Bush is not going to leave office with Iran still in limbo." . . . at a meeting of the White House, Pentagon and state department last month, Mr Cheney expressed frustration at the lack of progress and Mr Bush sided with him. "The balance has tilted. There is cause for concern," the source said this week. . . ."Cheney has limited capital left, but if he wanted to use all his capital on this one issue, he could still have an impact," said Patrick Cronin, the director of studies at the International Institute for Strategic Studies.’ (“Cheney pushes Bush to act on Iran; Military solution back in favour as Rice loses out; President 'not prepared to leave conflict unresolved',” Guardian, July 16, 2007.)
Deluded supporters of the Democratic Party may soon have to throw away their pathetic countdown clocks, those self-consoling little devices that remind them of how much time remains until noon on January 20, 2009, the moment when it is thought that Bush will finally leave office. These countdown clocks make no provision for the Cheney doctrine, which calls for a new super 9/11 with weapons of mass destruction in the US, to be used as the pretext for a nuclear attack on Iran and for martial law at home. Those who think the Republicans cannot hold the White House in 2008 have forgotten that neocons always prefer a coup d’etat to an election. As Cheney told Bob Schieffer of CBS’s Face the Nation on April 15, 2007: ‘The greatest threat now is “a 9/11 occurring with a group of terrorists armed not with airline tickets and box cutters, but with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities.”’
Pelosi and Reid need to toss out their fatuous countdown clocks, and get out their impeachment stopwatches -- fast.
Chertoff’s gut feeling for terrorism
Integral to the Cheney strategy has always been to orchestrate a climate of public terror. As Cheney told WLS in Chicago on Friday April 13: "It’s important that people remember 9/11.”
Nine-eleven remains the basis of every one of Cheney’s intrigues. One of Cheney’s terror facilitators in this sense is Michael Chertoff, the cadaverous secretary of Homeland Security. Although an experienced bureaucrat, Chertoff is now contemplating his navel as he searches for new ways to intimidate the American people, who have essentially no natural enemies at all, into the hallucination that they face an acute existential threat of being wiped out from one moment to the next. Chertoff told the editorial board of the Chicago Tribune -- once the voice of isolationism -- that the US faces an increased danger of attack in the summer of 2007. This wild fabrication, not based on any specific information of any kind that he could cite, Chertoff called his "gut feeling . . . the nation faces a heightened chance of an attack this summer.” "I believe we are entering a period this summer of increased risk," said Chertoff. "Summertime seems to be appealing to them. . . . We worry that they are rebuilding their activities."
The desperate demagogues of the Republican Party are facing a hecatomb at the polls in November 2008. Their idea seems to be that of the fascist Prime Minister Aznar of Spain in March 2004: if you are sure to lose an election, stage a terror attack, declare martial law, and perpetuate your power that way. Aznar was stopped by a general strike of about one third of the entire Spanish people. If all else fails, would Americans be capable of a mass strike against war and dictatorship? We may soon find out.
Chertoff’s troubled gut has already given rise to a White House interagency group of top intelligence and law enforcement functionaries that meets every Friday afternoon at 1 p.m. Will this committee run the coup? Reports followed of dozens of FBI agents fanning out to pursue a “worry list” of some 700 alleged leads, including 100 in the New York area. Some of these derived from the recent British terror stunts in London and Glasgow used by MI-5 and MI-6 to smooth the transition from the Tony Blair quasi-police state to the Gordon Brown version of the same thing.
MI-5 and MI-6 displayed the same mixture of comic ineptitude and phlegmatic homicide which was their hallmark during the long years when London was the prey of bombs by the “Irish Republican Army,” now revealed to have been top-heavy with government intelligence agents who called the shots. The Glasgow airport event consisted of a burning car crashed into a building, the films of which were shown all afternoon the by the US cable news networks. One was tempted to propose a caption: “Only one burning car -- a good day on the Cross-Bronx Expressway.” Yet for one burning car, the world was supposed to stop. These British events had been preceded by several weeks of hysteria about allegedly looming terror attacks against US installations in the Rhein-Main area of Germany, featuring the Wiesbaden spa, all based on CIA claims made to the government in Berlin and relentlessly trumpeted through the controlled media.
Anything on Fox news ? Or any other News ?
I am going to notify Link TV
A UN official has said soldiers from countries whose armies are suspected of torture and abuse should not be considered for peacekeeping operations.
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 9:12 am | #
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That rulles out the US. To think the bastards use torture in our name
UN requires 'better' peacekeepers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/
6920867.stm
A UN official has said soldiers from countries whose armies are suspected of torture and abuse should not be considered for peacekeeping operations.
American Evangelicals Issue Letter in Support of a Palestinian State
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...=rssnyt&
emc=rss
Leaders sent a letter to President Bush saying that both Israelis and Palestinians have “legitimate rights stretching back for millennia to the lands of Israel/Palestine,” and that they support the creation of a Palestinian state “that includes the vast majority of the West Bank.”
Ed & Elaine Brown
401 Center of Town Road
Plainfield, New Hampshire 03781
Get to the Browns house now!
If you are unable, use this list below, call them and dont stop calling!
Please flood the phones and do not stop till good things start to happen.
1: Sullivan County, NH (Plainfield is located here) Sheriff Michael Prozzo -- 603-863-4200
Please call the sheriff's office and urge him to act under his authority as the supreme law enforcement official in Sullivan County. He is the only elected law enforcement "official" and has the authority to tell the feds to back off. But so far he hasn't done anything but hide from this whole matter. Urge him to do something RIGHT NOW!!!
2: New Hampshire State Governor John Lynch -- 603-271-2121
Please call Gov. Lynch's office right now! They will likely try to skirt the issue and tell you to call the U.S. Marshall's office. Don't let them off the hook! Tell them that the GOVERNOR is supposed to have the authority over New Hampshire -- not the feds!!! Ed does not live on federal land! Ed is not under federal jurisdiction! Plainfield isn't on federal land, the county isn't, and the state isn't. The feds have no business there. The governor could act to stop it and keep the feds out. As with the sheriff, so far he has not!!! Call and tell them HE ABSOLUTELY MUST EXERCISE HIS AUTHORITY AND STOP THE FEDS.
3: The U.S. Marshall's office: 603-225-1632
Please call and tell them they have no authority, no business, and should immediately stop the violent actions they are taking against the Browns. They will likely ask for your name and number -- that's what they asked from me -- you can give it to them if you'd like, or not if you don't want to -- but don't be scared of these guys. Get your message that this should be resolved without the continued use of violence and the threat of violence. Tell them we are watching!
OTHER NUMBERS TO CONTACT:
Sullivan County Sheriff's Office14 Main St.P.O. Box 27Newport, NH 03773
PH 603.863.4200
FAX 603.863.0012
Representative Matthew S. Houde
Home Address:Matthew S. HoudeP.O. Box 66Meriden, NH 03770-0066Phone: (603)504-2744
matthewhoude@yahoo.comBusiness Address:Vermont Law SchoolChelsea St., PO Box 96S. Royalton, VT 05068Phone: (802)831-1241
Representative Carla M. Skinder
Carla M. Skinder465 East RoadCornish, NH 03745-4433Phone: (603)542-6065Phone: (603)543-6895FAX: (603)863-
8383cskinder@vrh.orgcarla.skinder@leg.state.nh.us
Senator Peter Hoe BurlingSenate Office:Statehouse107 N. Main St., Room 105Concord, N.H. 03301(603) 271-2642
peter.burling@leg.state.nh.usHome:20 Lang RoadCornish, N.H. 03745-4209(603) 675-6255
Governor LynchOffice of the GovernorState House25 Capitol StreetConcord, NH 03301(603)271-2121(603)271-7680 (fax)
http://edbrownvlog.blogspot.com/
30 to 40 rounds fired behind the house noise heard in the woods every one is at battle stations this in not a drill i repeat this in not a drill.
Danny
http://www.wtprn.com/listen.shtml
Sane - did you ever post on the Yahoo news comments section ?
kells | 07.29.07 - 1:09 am | #
nope, dont know how
you mean our lovin beast like police wuld harm them? lets all pray for Ed an Eline
Why the f... is the site down? is it the loving feds or just technical problems?
Thought Criminal
Don't know but Propaganda matrix site is up and it ALWAYS mirrors Prison planet! I haven't seen any info about Ed there yet! I PRAY they don't murder Ed and wife and make NO mistake about it, IT WILL BE MURDER!
Iraqi Political Cartoonist, Family Killed
http://www.iraqslogger.com/
index...t_Family_Killed
Chalabi-Allied Cartoonist and 11 Family Members Among Car Bomb Victims
Bush Blocks Efforts At Stem Cells Without Harming Embryos
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml?
hpid=topnews
Iraqi PM May Ask Washington To Withdraw Petraeus
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...aq-hot-tempers/
Why the f... is the site down? is it the loving feds or just technical problems?
FBI: Gang Activity In Military "Threat To National Security"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/
2...tr=HOME_3107316
this is the dude that the neocons credit for their inspiration for O.B.E.
clinton referenced this dude for helping muelers inspiration and corroberation
baldmanace
Please explain what O.B.E. is for us who might not know, OK? Muelers, too?
Propaganda matrix website is up and running but nothing on Ed or wife! Go to www.propagandamatrix.com
kells, Email me OK? I pray Ed Brown and family are OK! Pray for them!
cant read story on disinfo agents getting aforbidden 403 whats going on?
noplacebo | 07.29.07 - 3:24 am | # i keep getting 403 too. Can't get on prison Planet.
cant read story on disinfo agents getting aforbidden 403 whats going on?
we go to war!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.crystalinks.com/
djwha...djwhalkhul.html
this is the dude that the neocons credit for their inspiration for O.B.E.
clinton referenced this dude for helping muelers inspiration and corroberation
FIGHT THE POWER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h?v=jym-
RtHHG0s
i love rap
but like chris rock
i hate defending it all
but this is top shelf
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=0
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=0
god you gotta love al pacino
if only he would run for president
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=0
this is exactly how i feel about if they are hitting ed brown
and also
if they are hitting prison planet
post all around...
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...ad-545/
#respond
infowars is still kickin?
its on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PRISON PLANET IS DOWN - THEY ARE GOING AFTER THE BROWNS - THIS IS PROBABLY A HIT
i am also getting a 403 forbidden error on prison planet?
any explainations yet?
Sometimes, you have to press for your rights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=-
eREiQhBDIk
Katrina: 'Citizens died because US refused aid'
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
Re...reign_0727.html
British source tells of CIA torture
http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...37144%
2C00.html
Iraqi MI5 agent gives the first ever account of 'extraordinary rendition.'
Here is how to organize the 911 truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...related&
search=
More fun taxpayer dollars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h?v=pz0XNGJ-
ep8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h?
v=2XK_WAy1wCI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h?v=lSXWsRMX-
j0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...HZWxtuN8MI&
NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...related&
search=
When I try to access PP this is the message I get:
You are not authorized to view this page
You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied.
WTF ? This has never happened before.
update from Brown's friend Danny,
the shots were fired about an hour and a half were fired. Shots were fired from treeline at the Brown's home. So a reckon was sent out and there is still movement in the trees from authority groups, however, the firing has desisted for now.
Ed Brown is telling everyone to remain calm and they are in a defensive posture having fallen back to the house.
So it is a wait and see, but they think so far it is a test of their reactions rather than THE attack - or at least so they are hoping.
Everybody help Ron Paul in Iowa now that the two big candidates are out lets bump it up a notch. Find out from your local RP meetup group what you can do.
Here is a good example of the moral integrity of Law enforcement today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...related&
search=
Scary shit if true, I hope they get through it in one piece, brave souls that they are.
Biggs | 07.29.07 - 1:20 am |
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Thats terrible, thanks for the update.
We need to pray and now, they are brave souls for sure.
That song reminded me of a post about Nana on the old Yahoo site.
Anyway - if you really like that song , please check out a singer named Nana Mouskouri.
You won't be disappointed .
I just heard Ed and Elaine Brown are under attack, I do not know if true but the message reads as below and can be found here: -
http://edbrownvlog.blogspot.com/
I also heard that infowars and PP have been down in the last hour.
Message on Brown's vlog site: -
==============================
30 to 40 rounds fired behind the house noise heard in the woods every one is at battle stations this in not a drill i repeat this in not a drill.
Danny
http://truthorlies.org/listenlive.html
==============================
Scary shit if true, I hope they get through it in one piece, brave souls that they are.
Here is one place you can go to get some 911 truth videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...h?
v=3TKrMbM0K6E
Sane - did you ever post on the Yahoo news comments section ?
My home growing up was alot like this.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the 911 truth anthem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G...h?
v=Gs37NSLy3z4
Here is something you can still do, in America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A...h?v=AoFB4-
5MLN0
I take my hat off to this guy. A true man of steel. Not one drop spilt, 5 beer chug.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O...GcybZgljfE&
NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...related&
search=
This pure evil bastard needs to hang and have his neck stretched and be sent to Gitmo for what he has done to America and Libermann also and Pelosi too ALL of whom are laughing about NO WMD"S! ALL are fucking traitors! Including the crowd who is there also! MOTHERFUCKING TRAITORS! They ALL fucking ALL are out and out traitors! PERIOD! IF every American is NOT TOTALLY PISSED OFF OVER THIS, THEY ARE UNAMERICAN AS HELL! AND WATCH FUCKING "NUKE IRAN FOR ISRAEL" LIARMANN TOO! I HATE HIM TOO! He needs to go back to fucking Israel where the treasonous bastard belongs since he doesn't give a FUCK ABOUT AMERICA!
Here is a man who viewed a copy of "Loose Change" and felt brisk about it.
Then he went to Congress to "sort it out".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h?
v=5q9kYKtvYU0
What really Happened website:
Report details US refusals of foreign aid after Katrina
A new report reveals the US government turned down offers of help from across the globe in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, telling one diplomat "human assistance of any kind is not on our priorities list."
"A review of the State Department documents reveals distressing ineptitude," CREW's executive director Melanie Sloan said in a prepared statement. "Countries were trying to donate desperately needed goods and services, but as a result of bureaucratic bungling and indifference, those most in need of these generous offers and of aid never received it."
Posted Jul 28, 2007 08:22 AM PST
Category: COVER-UP/DECEPTIONS
It's always comforting to know just how expendable the people of this country are to this administration.
What really happened is one of best websites on net! Moderator, if you would post stuff the 1st damn time, I would not be typing this twice!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...mail/
components
Fuck Bush for this! And every other treasonous Motherfucking thing he does too! I hope he burns in HELL and then some!
Here is what it is like when you approach someone with a copy of "Loose Change".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...related&
search=
Shit | 07.27.07 - 2:29 pm
Don't kid yourself, NOONE had to force Bush into signing that 51 making him a dictator! He has always said he wanted to be one! Globists did NOT have to 'FORCE" him into anything! He wanted to be dictator and IS!
It all really comes down to this, gentlemen.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...related&
search=
On CMT right now, the son in law......
Beatin him up in the mud ,
mud wrestling a fat girl.
funny shit.
i found my country...it is stuck in the movie..."Bobby"
Here is how you order at the drive through.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h?v=FLn45-
7Pn2Y
Dudes. I just fell in love with Macdonalds all over again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...MUb0aQCaz8&
NR=1
Who screams? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h?
v=FJOEA56y7qA
Of course the Royal family is involved. No one is allowed that high up the ladder unless they are 100% committed to the New World Order.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=20673#116124
And how can we call aliens "illegal" when we are still debating whether they exist or not? I mean, there is actually a law that it is illegal to shoot the sasquatch.........
Just picture at the end he screams, "Rothschild!!!!!"
Gabriel Alan King
Who screams?
GAK, How do you figure Pariment was involved in 9-11 too? Or Queen! I have read several places where MI6 was involved too, do you know anything about this? How do you figure Parliment?
You mean the United States of Mexico is in Israel?
card51short, I know what you said and what I am trying to tell you is IF we know for sure and we do that certain people were involved in 9-11 or certain companies, with ties to Mossad like ICTS has and has been involved in 3 out of 4 attacks, we MUST try to find out more about them to 1. STOP the next false flag attacks, then 2. finish waking people up to truth about 9-11! Our 1st job is to make our nation secure! Then we can try to wake gullible asses up! Stopping the next attacks is needed asap, waking more people up takes too much time!
San Francisco: Turn in a gun, get a $100.-$200. gift card
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ ar...eed=rss.bayarea
The public can unload unwanted firearms at San Francisco's Civic Center Plaza today - no questions asked -- and receive $100 to $200 gift cards in return. People who turn in rifles or shotguns will receive a $100 gift card; a revolver or semiautomatic will bring a $150 gift card. Those who bring an assault-type firearm will receive a $200 gift card
sane
How very thoughtful of SF when dual citizenship Chertoff says SF is one of cities possibly hit by bogus "Al-CIA-da' in next attacks! How nice they are trying to disarm the citizens of SF so when Bush declares Marshall Law after next false flag attack those foreign troops or God knows who, can drag the SF citizens out to be taken to one of those 800 FEMA camps!
dude where the fuck is my country????
sane
It's obviously in Israel! I just couldn't resist!
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touche, and without the yelling...Nice!
Illuminati recruiting attempts are not always successful............
Here is an example. 54 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h?
v=kB69pVvLrhk
dude where the fuck is my country????
sane
It's obviously in Israel! I just couldn't resist!
Apparently Nancy Boyda didn't get the Builderberg invitation.........
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 10:52 pm | #
dont think she will be getin it next year either Nice one!
Apparently Nancy Boyda didn't get the Builderberg invitation.........
This is how to do revolution, and succeed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/
Henry_Bowman
"see prescott bush was a jew because his mom was abducted by zionist aliens on the jesuit mothership...HOW COME PP DOES NOT TALK ABOUT THIS!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 10:38 pm | #
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hehe yeah how come?
Just picture at the end he screams, "Rothschild!!!!!"
more truth in the halls of congress
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...h?
v=gS5Y17z91Jc
The common citizens of Russia, and America, and all nations need to ban TOGETHER and prepare to fight the New World Order. Here is some inspiration crew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...?v=FJOEA56y7qA!
This happened thursday in congress and the military industrial complex mainstream media will NOT COMMENT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h?
v=YM8OaUoGxQE
Listen to what truth sounds like in the halls of congress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK who the hell is using GAK's computer????
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 9:51 pm | #
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No shit.........
Henry Bowman | 07.28.07 - 10:36 pm | #
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he is making too much sense, it would be like me saying:
"see prescott bush was a jew because his mom was abducted by zionist aliens on the jesuit mothership...HOW COME PP DOES NOT TALK ABOUT THIS!!!!
Nice song sane! They will probably use it as a soundtrack for the FEMA camp executions DVD! (smile)
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 10:34 pm | #
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I think it will be Carl Orff Carmina Burana
OK who the hell is using GAK's computer????
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 9:51 pm | #
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No shit.........
Chickenhawk Congressman Smears Military Expert
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...michael-turner/
Center for American Progress military expert Lawrence Korb testified before the House Armed Services Committee this morning, challenging escalation proponents to have the courage of their convictions and call for a draft if they would like the surge to continue indefinitely.
One right-wing Ohio Congressman, Michael Turner, desperately tried to smear Korb during his question and answer period. Turner started off his smear attacks against Korb by questioning his credentials to speak before the panel:
TURNER: I was looking at your bio…that incorrectly I believe referred to you as Doctor Korb. And you do not have a PhD.
KORB: I do.
TURNER: You do have a PhD?
After humiliating himself once, Turner next turned his guns on Korb’s prepared written testimony. “I’ve not seen citations like this before the committee,” Turner said, noting that Korb referenced research sources in his statement. Korb said he provided the citations for the lawmakers as a reference point for more information. He noted that Gen. Jack Keane, a co-panelist, “did not have any footnotes. His were all opinions.”
After falling flat in his numerous stabs at Korb, Turner moved onto the next smear. Taking a comment made by Korb completely out of context, Turner asserted that you’ve told us “you’re not a military expert.” Korb responded:
I’ll put my record in terms of scholarship, in terms of analysis of war in terms of military issues up against anybody.
Watch it:
After propagating his false smears, Turner refused to allow Korb time to answer and attempted to flee the committee room quickly. Chairman Ike Skelton (D-MO) told Turner to sit down and listen to Korb’s response.
ThinkProgress contacted Turner’s office for comment on the incident. Andy Bloom, communications director for Turner, told us that Turner has never served in the military and has no substantive military experience. Asked if Turner was participating in a coordinated effort to smear Korb, Bloom said, “I can’t be certain.”
Turner is a classic “chickenhawk,” a term used to refer to strident war proponents who have never personally experienced war. Korb, on the other hand, is a Navy captain who served in Vietnam. He has served in the Pentagon, taught at the Naval War College and Coast Guard Academy, and has twice traveled to Iraq. He recently returned from a 10-day visit to Baghdad (see his dispatch here).
If you wish to contact Turner’s office, you can do so here.
UPDATE: Commenter Midwest Product fine-tunes the definition of “chickenhawk”: “A chickenhawk is someone who ascribes the bravery of soldiers in wartime to themselves because they take a pro-war position.”
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TRAITORS - NO OTHER EXPLANATION!
“No, Mitt, see, it’s this series of tubes…” Romney Confuses MySpace and YouTube
By: Nicole Belle @ 6:31 PM - PDT
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...ce-and-youtube/
Chicago Tribune:
Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney traveled along the Interstate 35 corridor near the site of next month’s straw poll Thursday, promoting his call to try to keep pornography away from children.[..]
Romney earlier in the day said he would encourage computer manufacturers to install internet filtering software on computers sold at retail to help parents protect their children from pornography.
But Romney showed some unfamiliarity with the Internet when he discussed the problem of sexual predators and children.
“YouTube is a website that allows kids to network with one another and make friends and contact each other,” Romney explained. “YouTube looked to see if they had any convicted sex offenders on their web site. They had 29,000.”
Actually, YouTube is the popular site that allows Internet users to upload and watch a variety of videos. The web site, which is owned by search-engine behemoth Google, also was a co-sponsor of the Democratic presidential debate held on Monday night.
The web site MySpace is the one to which Romney actually was referring. MySpace, owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp., said this week it had found 29,000 registered sex offenders who had submitted profiles to its site and removed them.
Hmm….I guess that’s why Mitt refused to commit to the YouTube Debate. By the way, Mitt’s raising a lot of money in Utah (which shouldn’t be too surprising), but he’s also spending a lot of money there too. Guess what on? Mitt bobble-head dolls. I kid you not. Given out to donors who gave more than $96 during a campaign fund drive.
Nice song sane! They will probably use it as a soundtrack for the FEMA camp executions DVD! (smile)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O...related&
search=
missing airliner debris explained.........
Now the politicians try to explain to the truthers about the missing airliner debris...........
29 seconds
"LiveLeak Exclusive Interview with Ron Paul"
I only have two words to say to this: HIT PIECE!!!
What's with the incriminating questions? You almost think this guy was a paid professional who was handed his script.
But then you hear Ron Paul and he lick's 'im and sets 'im straight.
Mmmm......... Tuborg looks tasty! America imports everything! Wish we would import some more good stuff, but that might interfere with certain marketing competitors. I like Guiness though.
Three 911 victims family members closely examine the "content" of the 911 commission report.............
30 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h?
v=Ug75diEyiA0
only problem is you americans dont have any proper beer
Lars | 07.28.07 - 10:16 pm | #
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i doubt you will find any argument to that
but yuenglueng ain'ty bad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuborg
=Proper beer
I have no idea why [don't even know what the frick she is saying], but this song removes every bit of stress from my soul. Just minimize the video, it makes no sense and sit back and listen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...related&
search=
I am making sense because I am dead sober. But that I am about to correct that problem...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h? v=rFcrh2CN5bQ
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 10:13 pm | #
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only problem is you americans dont have any proper beer
I am making sense because I am dead sober. But that I am about to correct that problem...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h?
v=rFcrh2CN5bQ
Here is how I really feel about all you truthers.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...?v=7...related&
search=
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 10:07 pm | #
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Lol nice :P
Sane! A personal thanks from pc for all your diligance and thoughtfullness. Whatever weaknesses I or you have we feel your heart is in the right place.
On this end, we are working nonstop to solve the missing bee problem. ------------
pc | 07.28.07 - 10:07 pm | #
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waterboard the execs at monsanto and GM...problem solved
Here is how I really feel about all you truthers.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...related&
search=
Sane! A personal thanks from pc for all your diligance and thoughtfullness. Whatever weaknesses I or you have we feel your heart is in the right place.
On this end, we are working nonstop to solve the missing bee problem. ------------
I am GAK! I just learned how to post links today. Now I am going to OUTSPAM you!
And there is something you should know......
I am not left handed either!
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 9:59 pm | #
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you are not you are making too much sense
Sir, are you an idiot are you just here to stir up trouble?(snip)
*sigh* it will just carry on and on...
card51short | 07.28.07 - 9:39 pm | #
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Because he`s either a troll, some white supremecist or as you already said an idiot, either way he`s geting a bit anoing now.
Wikipedia is censoring freedom of speech... anyone ever heard of project monarch? it was another one of those CIA mind control programs... try making a wikipedia article about it
I am GAK! I just learned how to post links today. Now I am going to OUTSPAM you!
And there is something you should know......
I am not left handed either!
CNN Calls Republicans’ Bluff, Reschedules YouTube Debate
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...bate-postponed/
On July 23, all eight Democratic presidential candidates participated in the CNN/YouTube debate. By uploading a 30-second video to YouTube, “voters could directly question a presidential candidate during the debate.” Steve Grove, YouTube’s news and politics editor, called this new debate format “more democratic than ever.”
Yet so far, just three Republican presidential candidates — Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), and as of yesterday, Tommy Thompson — have confirmed that they will participate in the Sept. 17 debate. Both former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney have said that they have scheduling conflicts.
CNN has called their bluff. The website for Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) reports today that CNN has postponed the September debate:
We received word yesterday that the CNN/YouTube/Florida GOP presidential candidates debate scheduled for September 17 has been postponed. A new date has yet to be determined.
ThinkProgress spoke with the Paul campaign today, who confirmed that CNN contacted them and said that it is rescheduling the debate. The campaign said that it believes it was done to accommodate the schedules of the other candidates. Earlier today, the New York Times reported that CNN “said it would work with the campaigns to find a new date.”
It’s unclear whether the other candidates will actually participate in the rescheduled debate. Romney recently mocked the debate, stating, “I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman,” referring to a citizen dressed as a snowman who submitted a question about global warming.
The New World Order is a complex web of interconnecting secret societies, corporations, institutions, fronts, organizations, associations, and alphabet soup groups.
There is very little "in fighting" in the New World Order. They realize that their collective "gains" are solely dependent upon each other, and they must stay in league with the devil and his master plan, or suffer the horrible consequences. These "birds of a feather" definately flock together.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 9:46 pm | #
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OK who the hell is using GAK's computer????
Here is a funny "take a break" video. A cop maces a young girl drive through attendant after wrongfully accusing her of short changing him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...h? v=oaHyuWgir8U
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 9:32 pm | #
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dude where the fuck is my country????
The New World Order is a complex web of interconnecting secret societies, corporations, institutions, fronts, organizations, associations, and alphabet soup groups.
There is very little "in fighting" in the New World Order. They realize that their collective "gains" are solely dependent upon each other, and they must stay in league with the devil and his master plan, or suffer the horrible consequences. These "birds of a feather" definately flock together.
The "pecking order" of secret societies and the "whodunnit?" can get a bit confusing at times. That is why Alex Jones refers to the all mysterious "THEM" as simply THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
Who are the guilty? Who are THEM? Well, basically anyone with power or influence who operates in secrecy within any political power structure. We need to arrest all of them.
We are not pickering on who is #2! You all just don't want to PUT MOSSAD OR ZIONISTS even on the list! You don't want it out the truth about Israel is all! And about how it was Mossad flying those planes!And rest of info I posted! The TRUTH! And you say you don't care who did 9-11? While our poor troops are dying in large part because of Israel and soon Bush will start another war for Israsel NEEDLESSLY ON IRAN TOO!
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Sir, are you an idiot are you just here to stir up trouble?
Have you read my posts...I said, I quote "I BELIEVE ISRAEL IS BEHIND IT FOR SURE"
But why is that all you talk about? Of course the MOSAD was involved!!!
Why do you put words in my mouth?
*sigh* it will just carry on and on...
card51short, "But who cares?" Zionist (fake Jews) leadership in Israel gets U.S. nuclear security guarding and also treasonous Bush gives them computer security over at Pentagon and YOU DON'T F*ckning care??? 3 out of 4 terrorist attacks have ALL had ICTS as security firm and YOU don't F*CKING care?
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911 truther i've now come to the conclusion you are just here to bicker and fight.
I'll address this post then i'm done with you.
You quoted only part of what i said. I said "WHO CARES WHO WAS REALLY BEHIND 9/11" we just need to expose it's a lie and tell people about it.
I DIDN'T SAY WHO CARES ABOUT PEOPLE DYING IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.
Oh my god...give it a rest...I care about bringing the perps of 9/11 to justice immediately.
Not about bickering who exactly all was behind it WHEN WE CAN NEVER KNOW UNTIL WE BRING THEM TO COURT.
But fine, I don't care about people dying...you're right...*sigh*
Here is a funny "take a break" video. A cop maces a young girl drive through attendant after wrongfully accusing her of short changing him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...h?
v=oaHyuWgir8U
Princess Diana used to refer to the house of Windsor as "Those lizards". Strange comment.
I am not sure which European country "Wilhelmsbad" resides in. But a few men who infiltrated the societies like John Robison wrote books way back then attempting to expose the conspiracy.
Apparently, Jews were allowed to join the Freemasons, and depending upon their "usefulness" and moral fiber, determining their rate of advancement, and elligibility for Illuminist membership.
When any person joins into the higher levels of the secret societies, their former allegiances be it racial, religious, or other, are discarded as petty.
Albeit crazy sounding, my research into the Reptilian race has lead me to conclude that it may well be real. Which would help to explain some of the totally inhuman atrocities perpetrated by the shadowy elites. These "fallen angels" and tares "children of the great Dragon" are refered to as a nest of vipers, serpents, so on and so forth in the Bible.
A new book called "The Dragons Legacy" by Prince Nicolas de Vere Von Drakenburg describes a gene that has been lab analyzed and confirmed as not human by scientists, that runs in Drakenburgs and other Royal houses. Drakenburg is highly intelligent and well spoken. He granted Tracy Rt. Wyman an interview that can be read in full on her website.
Congress of Wilhelmsbad, What was this please? Is it a place or what please? GAK, good post! Thanks!
The "spider web" has so many strands, it's hard to remember even all the major players off the top of my head. That's an indication of how bad things are. Even the secret societies are a complex bueracracy!@
Gabriel Alan King, When you say Jews were finally allowed to become members, of which! Illumanti or Freemason's?
GAK, #13 The Reptilians Who are these please? I hate to even think about them! It's David Icke stuff right? I don't like him! You forgot no.1 person Cheney and also FBI too! And no.1 group PNAC too you forgot Zionist PNAC group! They should be right up there!
pg.18
On July 6, 1782, at the Congress of Wilhelmsbad, an alliance between Freemasonry and the Order of the Illuminati was sealed. This event united approximately three million members of the leading secret societies of the time.
One order of business at the Congress was to allow Jews to become members. Because of the Catholic Churches influence, Jews had few right in Europe and were being sorely persecuted. The House of Rothschild bankers used their influence to cause the change. All that transpired at this meeting will never be known because all attending were sworn to complete secrecy.
"What passed at this terrible Congress will never be known to the outside world, for even those men who had been drawn unwittingly into the movement, and heard for the first time the real designs of the leaders, were under oath to reveal nothing. One honest Freemason, the Comte de Virieu......... when questioned on the tragic secrets he had brought back with him, replied: I will not confide them to you. I can only tell you that all this is very much more serious than you think. The conspiracy which has been woven is so well thought out that it will be, so to speak, Impossible for the Monarchy and the Catholic Church to escape from it. From that time on, says his biographer, M. Costa de Beauregard, the Comte de Virieu could only speak of Freemasonry with horror". (Nesta Webster, World Revolution pg. 1
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Taken from David J. Smith's "Newswatch Magazine"
If they come here and see us bickering about who is #2 on the list, they're gonna think we're little kids.
card51short
We are not pickering on who is #2! You all just don't want to PUT MOSSAD OR ZIONISTS even on the list! You don't want it out the truth about Israel is all! And about how it was Mossad flying those planes!And rest of info I posted! The TRUTH! And you say you don't care who did 9-11? While our poor troops are dying in large part because of Israel and soon Bush will start another war for Israsel NEEDLESSLY ON IRAN TOO!
But who cares"? card51, we are bombing innocent men,women and kids in Afghanistan and Iraq in MAJOR part because of fucking Zionists and Israel and you don't care? Our precious Nation is being destroyed from within and YOU don't care who did 9-11? Our nation is BANKRUPT from cost of needless wars fought in large part because of Zionists in Israel and America too and also because we have stupidly given a wealthy nation like Israel BILLIONS in aide while our OWN people suffer and YOU DON"T CARE??
card51short, "But who cares?" Zionist (fake Jews) leadership in Israel gets U.S. nuclear security guarding and also treasonous Bush gives them computer security over at Pentagon and YOU DON'T F*ckning care??? 3 out of 4 terrorist attacks have ALL had ICTS as security firm and YOU don't F*CKING care?
Gabriel Alan King, You forgot some major player's in 9-11, namely Cheney and FBI too!
WHY DO I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR JAKE THEN FOR BUSH??????????
jbrid1138, I don't like David Icke! He says he is son of God which he is NOT! He is not Jesus brother in that sense of word!
YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE GREAT ABOUT NOW? THE BUSH DAUGHTERS DOING SOMETHING PORNO.... MAYBE A LESBO THING OR SOMETHING WITH THE CHENEY WHORE!
CNN: Dog fighting worse than raping a woman.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...raping-a-woman/
On Thursday, CNN sports anchor Larry Smith commented on Atlanta Falcons’ quarterback Michael Vick’s recent arrest for running a dogfighting ring:
SMITH: Yes, well, that’s — he’s been in a lot of trouble lately, when you think about all the other incidents, and this is just the worst one of all. Keep in mind, too, that while Kobe Bryant is a situation we can sort of compare this to, this really is much worse. Not only can you argue that the crimes are much worse in terms of, you know, killing dogs and that kind of thing, but as an NFL starting quarterback, you are the most visible face in that city. I’ve said all along, in fact, you know, if you go through and, you know, very quickly name 10 mayors of major cities in the country…
GRACE: Larry Smith, did I just hear you say…
SMITH: … you could have a harder time doing that…
GRACE: … mistreatment of…
SMITH: … than naming 10 NFL starting quarterbacks.
GRACE: Did I just hear Larry Smith, CNN sports correspondent and anchor, state that crimes on a dog are much worse than crimes on a woman? Did I hear that?
Meet DAVID ICKE --
http://video.google.co.uk/videop...earch&
plindex=0
The August Review --
http://illuminati-news.com/0/glo...ho-are-
they.htm
U.S. vets' high-blood pressure tied to Agent Orange
http://www.reuters.com/article/
h...728076420070727
U.S. veterans exposed to the defoliant Agent Orange during the Vietnam War may face an increased risk of high blood pressure, an expert panel said on Friday, citing what it called limited but important evidence.
Shocking New Book About the CIA!
http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-A...A/dp/
1596985100
Using his first-rate sources in all levels of national security-from field officers to high-ranking analysts to former intelligence heads-bestselling author Rowan Scarborough [relative of joe "dead intern in office"???]reveals how CIA bureaucrats are undermining the War on Terror through disinformation, incompetence, and outright sabotage.
Here is an audio presentation "Exposing the Illuminati" by one of the original Old Schoolers. Helped wake me up in the beginning. How old? Born in the 1800's. A director and playwriter.
http://100777.com/myron
US May Keep Troops in Europe
http://www.spiegel.de/
internatio...,496654,00.html
The Pentagon may slow or stop its removal of US forces stationed in Western Europe. With the Iraq war spiralling out of control, increasing turmoil in Afghanistan and tensions with Russia, it turns out Western Europe is still an important staging ground.
Ron Paul Double Digits in National Polling?
http://askmrs.com/
Is Ron Paul a double digit canidate? go to : http://askmrs.com
It's the worse case scenario --
Future Weapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h?
v=YjY0Us7NOns
Elite Meltdown? (Ron Paul is the only hope but we need him now!)
http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp?
nid=46376
Friday, July 27, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com Though I am not American, I am a fan of what America was and hopefully can be again. Congressman Ron Paul “gets it” – that America is in danger of drifting into a situation where the republic can no longer be reclaimed.
What happens to some of the people who leave Guantanamao Bay
http://blogs.news.com.au/heralds...t_wanted_freed/
Andrew [Bush Lover] Bolt comments on what happens to people from Guantanamao Bay.
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The real scandal isn’t that the US has locked up suspects at Guantanamo Bay, but that it’s let so many of them go free - free to resume their terrorism: AT LEAST 30 former Guantanamo Bay detainees have been killed or recaptured after taking up arms against allied forces following their release. They have been discovered mostly in Afghanistan and Pakistan, but not in Iraq, a US Defence Department spokesman told The Age yesterday… His comments follow the death this week of Taliban commander and former detainee Abdullah Mehsud, who reportedly blew himself up rather than surrender to Pakistani forces. In December 2001, Mehsud was captured in Afghanistan and held at Guantanamo Bay until his release in March 2004. He later became the Taliban chief for South Waziristan.How many people have now been murdered by fanatics set free from Guantanamo Bay, at the urging of so many civil libertarians and Leftist activists? How many deaths do those civil libertarians now have on their conscience?
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Notice that they engage in catch and release of the real terrorists while the fake ones get locked up forever. just like posada. kill for cheney and you get out of jail free. what this moron fails to notice is that bush/cheney want more terrorism as they have an unconscionable conflict of interest.
GAK -- you're one sicko, but funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h?
v=dGtdpauw9hc
Depleted Uranium-Bush's Favorite WMD-Blamed For Surge in Cancer in Iraq
http://www.commondreams.org/arch...007/07/24/2742/
The Pentagon continues to insist that DU is not harmful.
Michael Moore's Challenge to the Presidential Candidates
http://www.alternet.org/healthwe...hwellness/
57982
The Democratic presidential candidates are fighting to show how in touch they are with the plight of everyday Americans, but Michael Moore has a way for them to prove how serious they are.
Big bro alert
New Infrared Camera Counts HOV Passengers
http://www.therawfeed.com/2007/0...counts-
hov.html
UK scientists have invented an infrared camera system called Dtect, which COUNTS THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS inside cars driving in high-occupancy vehicle (HOV) lanes (called "car share lanes" in the UK). The system can distinguish dummies and dogs from people.
They have not declared a dictatorship yet , that would be foolish and they are not that. Phycotic, sadistic, imoral, decetfull, pathetic, pyscopaths,egomaniacs, yes, but not stupid.
However it is a **dictaorship**,and we know it. Too bad the silent majority canot see it, guess they will have to learn the hard way.
Their kids will hate them for their ignorence ,illusions and cowardice, or they will become browhshirts. I just cant be sarcsitic anymore, fact is I just feel for the children of this land, the flag shakers and bubble heads can smother for all I give a shit.
http://www.autoweapons.com/
produ...uppressors.html
Time to get on it, boys. Don't tread on us.
There are many others, but these are the main controlling players pulling the strings in the fake war on terror, and the rest of the Globalist scam.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 7:22 pm | #
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I am plaigerizing your stuff, shit man you been off the sauce for a while
I think maybe even old Bela Lugosi (aka Dracula) may have had a little PNAC in his blood //
A Race Of Atomic Supermen, Which Will Conquer The World --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...related&
search=
Paul Wolfowitz – as Deputy Secretary of Defense, he headed a group of about 700 military experts. The huge “think tank” had formulated plans to remove Saddam Hussein and for the invasion of Iraq.
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A-1,,J. good post
There are many others, but these are the main controlling players pulling the strings in the fake war on terror, and the rest of the Globalist scam.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 7:22 pm |
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Good post GAK -- I don't think you missed any of the heavy players. Outstanding.
We don't know exactly all of the culprits of 911? Pardon me, but I pretty much do.
Here is a list of the major players running the whole game:
#1 Lucifer
#2 The Council of 13
#3 The Illuminati
#4 The Committee of 300 (Formerly known as East India trading company) and Builderberg elites social club.
#5 The Rothschild counterfeiting ring
#6 The Royal family
#7 The Freemasons
#8 The Jesuit Order
#9 The Zionist "fake" Jews
#10 The Club of Rome
#11 Skull & Bones
#12 Certain members of the Council on foreign relations
#13 The Reptilians
#14 The Trilateral Commission
#15 NSA, CIA, and MI6
#16 US and British demolitions experts and contractors
#18 THE WHOLE OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
#19 The Parliment, the Senate, and the US House of Representatives.
#20 The whole Bush family, Guliani, and Larry Silverstien
There are many others, but these are the main controlling players pulling the strings in the fake war on terror, and the rest of the Globalist scam.
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What?! You put the mainstream media at #16?! It should be #13.5!!! Oh my god, you are covering up for the mainstream media! I can't believe it! All these days I thought you were good!
Don't you see how stupid it is to be debating on who exactly did it?
We know it was the NWO and their followers. So lets attack them instead of debating who did more or who deserves to be punished worse.
NONE OF US know all the culprits!
But who cares! Lets spread the word on why 9/11 is false and people will wake up.
If they come here and see us bickering about who is #2 on the list, they're gonna think we're little kids.
We don't know exactly all of the culprits of 911? Pardon me, but I pretty much do.
Here is a list of the major players running the whole game:
#1 Lucifer
#2 The Council of 13
#3 The Illuminati
#4 The Committee of 300 (Formerly known as East India trading company) and Builderberg elites social club.
#5 The Rothschild counterfeiting ring
#6 The Royal family
#7 The Freemasons
#8 The Jesuit Order
#9 The Zionist "fake" Jews
#10 The Club of Rome
#11 Skull & Bones
#12 Certain members of the Council on foreign relations
#13 The Reptilians
#14 The Trilateral Commission
#15 NSA, CIA, and MI6
#16 US and British demolitions experts and contractors
#18 THE WHOLE OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
#19 The Parliment, the Senate, and the US House of Representatives.
#20 The whole Bush family, Guliani, and Larry Silverstien
There are many others, but these are the main controlling players pulling the strings in the fake war on terror, and the rest of the Globalist scam.
And speaking of English ability -- What's up with this guy? No excuse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...related&
search=
Now FOX is complaining about bloggers! I'd like to give Bill O'Reilly a Columbian neck tie, live on FOX TV.
Good smash on Guilliani on infowars, more Guilliani scams.
Don't you people think that if there were any idea of Israel being involved with 9-11, Bush should NOT be giving our security away to Israel? Our U.S. security should NOT be given to ANY FOREIGN NATION, PERIOD! Why is it OK to lay guilt for 9-11 ONLY at Bush's feet but NOT at Mossad feet too? WHY NOT? I am telling you it is NO fucking coincidence that 3 out of 4 terrrorist attacks ALL have ICTS as security! NO fucking way it was "accident" NONE! And it's BULLSHIT to say we don't know who was involved in 9-11 because we sure fucking do! Bush/Cheney, Mossad, FBI, Rummie, to name a few!
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I said we don't know EXACTLY ALL of the culprits...which no one but the culprits themselves really knows. Sure, we can have theories and it's good to get them out in the open and discuss..but you seem to be attacking people for no reason. I believe Israel was involved for sure but don't place them above any other of the culprits.
well im not an american i live in europe.my english is from waching american tv i speak 4 launguages by the way how about you?
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My apologies, Lars, I didn't realize that you were not American and that English was not your native language. You have reason to be proud of your accomplishments...4 languages is actually quite impressive. It beats the mere 3 languages that I speak. I just assumed that you were a victim of the American public schools...that was the wrong thing to do. Again, I apologize.
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 7:00 pm | #
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shit i don't even speak english good
My apologies, Lars, I didn't realize that you were not American and that English was not your native language. You have reason to be proud of your accomplishments...4 languages is actually quite impressive. It beats the mere 3 languages that I speak. I just assumed that you were a victim of the American public schools...that was the wrong thing to do. Again, I apologize.
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So the troll does have compassion! In all honesty, it took guts to post that comment...but, of course, you had to throw in that you speak a "mere" 3 languages. It's OK...I respect the post.
Don't you people think that if there were any idea of Israel being involved with 9-11, Bush should NOT be giving our security away to Israel? Our U.S. security should NOT be given to ANY FOREIGN NATION, PERIOD! Why is it OK to lay guilt for 9-11 ONLY at Bush's feet but NOT at Mossad feet too? WHY NOT? I am telling you it is NO fucking coincidence that 3 out of 4 terrrorist attacks ALL have ICTS as security! NO fucking way it was "accident" NONE! And it's BULLSHIT to say we don't know who was involved in 9-11 because we sure fucking do! Bush/Cheney, Mossad, FBI, Rummie, to name a few!
More for your viewing pleasure:
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:45 pm | #
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Way to go sane.
I wish I could buy you an ice cold beer.
oldman | 07.28.07 - 6:57 pm | #
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I can't remember didn't I act likje an asshole to you?
think maybe i should apoloigize or something?
i forget
I am very proud of your for your ability to write English as well as you do -- Keep up the good work.
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 6:55 pm | #
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Thanks bro this means much to me, and once again sorry for my response to you on the Pat Tillman post i misunderstod your point later guys
card51short, WRONG! WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE! I know who all were involved and it Goddamn FOR SURE WAS ISRAELI LEADER'S AND MOSSAD AGENTS TOO ALONG WITH BUSH AND COHORTS! You just want to forget Mossad involvement while Bush gives away the ALL security to Israel when it is PROVEN THEY WERE FUCKING INVOLVED, TOO!
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Ummm what? I didn't deny any involvement by anyone. What are you talking about?
OK Israel is behind the entire thing. OK...9/11 was an inside job...now lets get active and stop bickering over complete nonsense...
WHO CARES WHO EXACTLY DID IT?!
The whole establishment is letting it happen and if we're gonna bicker about who we should go after we're gonna sit here till the cows come home.
I respect your work and your passion, 911 truther, but saying that you know who exactly was behind the attacks is a pretty bold statement.
Was MOSAD involved? Sure...did they make NORAD stand down? No.
All current governments are our enemies...Israel, US, UK...all of em! I'm not pointing out one and saying they are more involved than the others...THEY ALL LET IT HAPPEN.
Lets get them all!
well im not an american i live in europe.my english is from waching american tv i speak 4 launguages by the way how about you?
Lars | 07.28.07 - 6:44 pm | #
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My apologies, Lars, I didn't realize that you were not American and that English was not your native language. You have reason to be proud of your accomplishments...4 languages is actually quite impressive. It beats the mere 3 languages that I speak. I just assumed that you were a victim of the American public schools...that was the wrong thing to do. Again, I apologize.
Well its geting late here i`d bether get some sleep, love all you guys good luck saving the republic, and please deal with the troll
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He dealt with himself. Immediately after requesting a debate, he (like many other trolls before him) scurried away in fear of actually being informed.
card51short, WRONG! WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE! I know who all were involved and it Goddamn FOR SURE WAS ISRAELI LEADER'S AND MOSSAD AGENTS TOO ALONG WITH BUSH AND COHORTS! You just want to forget Mossad involvement while Bush gives away the ALL security to Israel when it is PROVEN THEY WERE FUCKING INVOLVED, TOO!
The only ones that truly know the inner workings of 9/11 were the evil bastards involved in it. The rest of us have to learn what we can as outsiders. An open mind helps..
More for your viewing pleasure:
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:45 pm | #
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Way to go sane.
I wish I could buy you an ice cold beer.
sane and truther...cmon guys we're on the same team? None of us know all the people involved in 9/11. We just know that it isn't what they said it is. Don't you listen to AJ? Stop all this in fighting when it is really getting us nowhere.
card51short | 07.28.07 - 6:54 pm | #
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AMEN brother! 9/11 truther please understand we are on your side
Well its geting late here i`d bether get some sleep, love all you guys good luck saving the republic, and please deal with the troll
Israel is "guarding" our nukes, thanks to TREASONOUS mass murdering Bush and those traitors in our gov't who let him give them that authority! http://
www.whatreallyhappened.co...edbyisrael.html
Read this all!
7thson = another troll scurrying back to his cave after getting completely owned and denying a debate.
Run away, lil guy! You're scared of the truth!
well im not an american i live in europe.my english is from waching american tv i speak 4 launguages by the way how about you?
Lars
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I just love it! A great come back. You'll probably find that the one critizing you on your grammar speaks nothing but poor English himself, maybe took Spanish or Latin in high school -- but that's about it.
I personally spent nearly 14 years in Germany (as an American soldier) but speak little of the Language. I went to Vietnam and learned a little Vietnamese -- but that was over 40 years ago and what I knew back then // wouldn't come in handy today anyway. I did study Japanese language for 47 weeks (seven days a week) and learned how to read, write, and speak // but sadly those skills are gone too. I grew up in Illinois but have a hell of a time with English, personally. I do not like to critize others. I am very proud of your for your ability to write English as well as you do -- Keep up the good work.
sane and truther...cmon guys we're on the same team? None of us know all the people involved in 9/11. We just know that it isn't what they said it is. Don't you listen to AJ? Stop all this in fighting when it is really getting us nowhere.
http://
www.whatreallyhappened.co...edbyisrael.html
Read this all! This proves me right and sane WRONG, again!
Papal aide warns of 'Islamisation of Europe'
http://news.scotsman.com/interna...m?
id=1171152007
He made it clear that Europe's Christian roots are under threat from a resurgent Islam. He also spoke of Islam not being a single force but a religion of extremes, with extremists who "turn to rifles for their goals".
Sane, what are you talking about?
www.patriotsquestion911.com
www.ae911truth.org
Obviously the 500+ names of Professors, Scientists, Government officials, politicians, military leaders, 9-11 Commission members, Celebrities, Pilots, Architects and Engineers who believe 9/11 was an inside job or have serious questions are all "loonies".
7thson said it, it has to be true! But wait...he did say it on the internet...so now its not true...hmm...now i'm confused!
well im not an american i live in europe.my english is from waching american tv i speak 4 launguages by the way how about you?
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Hahah...owned?
7th son, since my debating skills are obviously superior [actually they suck...but i got truth on my side], maybe now you would like to get edumacated:
9-11 coincidence theory:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...492071990669218
More for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...WyJJQbFago&
NR=1
http://video.google.com/
videopla...289437231286745
http://video.google.com/
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http://video.google.com/
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http://video.google.com/
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I think PNAC was before they quietly slid out the backdoor as an organized THINK TANK was pretty much a collection of membership (many high ranking government officials) who got too damn big for their own britches, so to speak. Being a THINK TANK they got to thinking that they were better than everyone else, even at the expense of what was (is -?) at the heart of our wonderful nation. They threw that in the toilet thinking they were the high and mighty few who had a right to rule the world. They set the plans that Bush and his cronies would implement (9/11 -- a new Pearl Harbor) and (war with Afghanistan & Iraq -- step number one and two on the road to world domination). What a bunch of jerks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...related&
search=
Here's what many of us THINK about one of their ultra VIP's (William Kristol):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...h?
v=8ov8nJ1lOa8
By the way, Lars, I think that remedial courses in spelling and grammar could do you a world of good. They might be worth considering.
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:39 pm | #
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well im not an american i live in europe.my english is from waching american tv i speak 4 launguages by the way how about you?
By the way, Lars, I think that remedial courses in spelling and grammar could do you a world of good. They might be worth considering.
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:39 pm | #
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well we need not your glamorous diplommas and higher levels of IQ like all the AEI traitors to smell BS when it is posted.
By the way, Lars, I think that remedial courses in spelling and grammar could do you a world of good. They might be worth considering.
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Lars...are you gonna take that? I mean this guy just hit below the belt...grammar and spelling?! Oh my god, I would sue for slander if I were you.
This guy is really hitting us hard today.
First, an elvis joke now he's making fun of grammar and spelling?!
This HAS to cease!
Get this. Because of the floods in the UK these wankers are going to put up out Water Bills? And they are the twats that keep building on Flood Plains??? Their madness knows no end!
7thson...guess you don't to debate...what a surprise!
Carry on with your name-calling and Elvis jokes, instead. You're really hitting us hard!
This guy tells me to get a life and he's actually sitting on a message board with people who he calls insane to debate with them. This would be like me rolling up to the gates of a mental institution and pointing and saying "you are all idiots!" for hours and when one of them replies I state: "You're such a loser replying to me! Get a life!"
But, we all know, deep inside, 7thson knows there is something wrong and that is why he is here.
He's not ready to accept the "conspiracy theory" because he is still holding on to the last strands of his crumbling paradigm.
Carry on with your Elvis jokes...you're hilarious!
all these links do is put shit together for ya cause ya obviously are incapable of that.
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:33 pm | #
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Tsk, tsk, sane. Now who's getting into ad hominem attacks?
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:35 pm | #
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um, do you understand or comprehend the meaning of ad hominem????
since you just put off over 50 hours of 5 years worth of investigative research, I assumed that you were a bit lazy and do not care about the victims of 911
am I wrong?
am i mistaken that you cannot be bothered to find out why our brothers sisters mothers fathers sons daughters wives husbands siblings died and continue to do because of the events of 911?
is it ad hominem to point out that your apparent pomposaity toward the evidence is an indicator that you care little for the million that have died due to 911?
is that too much of a stretch?
tsk tsk, try again
By the way, Lars, I think that remedial courses in spelling and grammar could do you a world of good. They might be worth considering.
all these links do is put shit together for ya cause ya obviously are incapable of that.
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:33 pm | #
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Tsk, tsk, sane. Now who's getting into ad hominem attacks?
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Sane, what are you thinking?! You know only the coincidence theorists can use ad-hominem attacks! If we use them, we are considered immature and our entire movement is criticized!
News flash Lars....ALL news lies to you!
You deny Larry Silverstein and his connection to 9-11
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How can anyone (??) deny this guy's involvment? He's dirty // His public announcement of 'pull it' goes without true challenge (I know there are those that say 'pull it' means firemen -- but I don't believe that load of crap) // His asking (and getting) all that money may be legal (insurance) but his claims of double the settlement saying two towers equal two attacks -- give me a F-ing break // the guy's a crud. He's a rich one but he's a dirty one. The very idea that he insured the WTC for terrorist attacks and did this weeks before 9/11 might be construed by some as a shrewd businessman BUT I consider it a display of advance knowledge.
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 6:31 pm | #
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Silverstein is a traitor to the American republic and the entire human race. he should have been the first one investigated, then cheney, then rumsfeld, then rockefeller, then condi, then larry potts, then all of AEI/PNAC etc. etc.
how the hell is anyone here saying, let larry skate by on this one...fuck him, no matter what happened on 9/11 i am pretty sure he gave the order to kill dan wallace and for that he deserves eternal hell.
sane, What's the matter, cat got your tongue? Answer my questions! You have work to do? Like what, evade my valid questions? What do you think of Larry, sane? What? Or PNAC group?
My humblest apologies. If it's on the internet, it MUST be true! What was I thinking?
The7thSon
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Well did you actualy take some time to study the evidence? i know its had to have your paradigme shatered. Me i was chearing my self when the troops invaded afganistan but i wised up the evidence is overwhelming . Heck boot lickers like you wont even mather its true patriots found here that can make any change you`ll just lick the boots of who ever is in power, and here`s a litle tip for you Fox News Lies to you
all these links do is put shit together for ya cause ya obviously are incapable of that.
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:33 pm | #
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Tsk, tsk, sane. Now who's getting into ad hominem attacks?
My humblest apologies. If it's on the internet, it MUST be true! What was I thinking?
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:26 pm | #
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btw, since you are on the internet, i thought i would send you some linjks...you can go to barnes and noble if you like, or you can go to a symposium, or a meetup group, or a college, or the mainstream media, or the white house, or the pentagon, or NY, or congress.
all these links do is put shit together for ya cause ya obviously are incapable of that.
And 9-11 truther why are you so mad? i actualy begining to think you are a troll atempting to poison the well with your zionist noncense
Lars
I am damn mad because I am tired of ANYONE questioning U.S. aid or such to Israel being labelled "anti-Semtic" or like! Fucking tired of Congress putting Israel FIRST AND NOT AMERICA FIRST! MAD AS HELL THE BUSH AND REST ARE HAVING ANY,ANY OTHER NATION DO OUR NUCLEAR SECURITY MUCH LESS ISRAEL WHO HAVE MURDERED ALOT OF AMERICAN'S BEFORE TOO! I put America first NOT Israel as should ALL American's INCLUDED AMERICAN JEWS TOO, sane!
My humblest apologies. If it's on the internet, it MUST be true! What was I thinking?
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Do you have any critical thinking? Or do you just use blanket statements?
Are you saying that everything on the internet is a lie? What is your basis for proving a lie? If you don't agree with something on the internet, is it a lie?
Do you care to debate the lies or just yell out spastically what you think is a truth and lie with no debate or critical logic used whatsoever?
Do you care to debate with us "loonies" or do you just want to make jokes and deny reality?
It's up to you...i'm up for a debate today...we can go deep into it if you like.
Or we can just name-call back and forth like a 3rd grader...up to you.
If you choose to accept, we'll start with Larry Silverstein's "pull it" comments...what did he mean by pull it?
You deny Larry Silverstein and his connection to 9-11
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How can anyone (??) deny this guy's involvment? He's dirty // His public announcement of 'pull it' goes without true challenge (I know there are those that say 'pull it' means firemen -- but I don't believe that load of crap) // His asking (and getting) all that money may be legal (insurance) but his claims of double the settlement saying two towers equal two attacks -- give me a F-ing break // the guy's a crud. He's a rich one but he's a dirty one. The very idea that he insured the WTC for terrorist attacks and did this weeks before 9/11 might be construed by some as a shrewd businessman BUT I consider it a display of advance knowledge.
sane, IS not blaming the WRONG people for doing 9-11 "dividing" the movement? Is not bombing innocent men,women and kids FUCKING IMMORAL!? I am NOT "dividing" the movement by placing BLAME WHERE IT FUCKING BELONGS! AND THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES! ISRAEL WAS INVOLVED IN 9-11 TOO! FACT!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 6:28 pm | #
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i told you i am busy working we can go outside and play later, now go chew on your bone for a few hours ....
9-11 Truther.
It would be far more effective to go after the individuals that are causing this meltdown of civilization than to label amorphous groups and give them strength by admission.
Yes, they exist. yes they are dangerous to those who threaten them. Yes they depend on financing from on high...
http://wearechange.org/forum/YaB...?
num=1184408392
.
Don't waste your energies on minnows when there's sharks about.
Bipedal crocodiles, too.
Bonne nuit.
The7thSon is a troll i`ve seen his posts elsewhere don waste your breath on him he`s a boot licker
Neo: why does my eyes hurt?
Morpheus: because you never used them before
i admit i`ve stolen that
Lars | 07.28.07 - 6:24 pm | #
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Wow, Lars! You've seen my other posts? That's quite an accomplishment since today is the first time I've posted anything...
My humblest apologies. If it's on the internet, it MUST be true! What was I thinking?
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:26 pm | #
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well you are on the internet...
are you TRUE?????
or are you assisting NWO in preventing the truth from getting out?
or are you purposefully spreading disinfo and teasing generals, nato supreme commanders, congressmen, scientists, doctors, lawyers, VICTIMS, iraqi war veterans to serve some fucked up personal interest????
care to answer that one SPARKY?
sane, IS not blaming the WRONG people for doing 9-11 "dividing" the movement? Is not bombing innocent men,women and kids FUCKING IMMORAL!? I am NOT "dividing" the movement by placing BLAME WHERE IT FUCKING BELONGS! AND THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES! ISRAEL WAS INVOLVED IN 9-11 TOO! FACT!
hey buddy...see if you can turn off the mind control for a few minutes so that reality can penetrate...
9-11 coincidence theory:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...492071990669218
More for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...W...WyJJQbFago&
NR=1
http://video.google.com/ videopla...289437231286745
http://video.google.com/ videopla...179074068244932
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sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:15 pm | #
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My humblest apologies. If it's on the internet, it MUST be true! What was I thinking?
ak48, Division my ass! The facts are ALL in my posts! Israel, i.e. Mossad agents helped do 9-11 along with Bush and cohorts too! sane, and rest how do you like Larry? ANSWER ME DAMN IT! How do you feel about Larry? Or PNAC group?
Is this not a method for dividing a movement?
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 5:56 pm |
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Yes.
The7thSon is a troll i`ve seen his posts elsewhere don waste your breath on him he`s a boot licker
Neo: why does my eyes hurt?
Morpheus: because you never used them before
i admit i`ve stolen that
And 9-11 truther why are you so mad? i actualy begining to think you are a troll atempting to poison the well with your zionist noncense
Lars
WRONG! You and sane are Zionist apologists! You deny Larry Silverstein and his connection to 9-11! Your soo very wrong and you damn well know it too! Your denying the LOGIC in what I have said here that 3 out of 4 attacks have happened at sites where ICTS has security at! How do either troll sane or you explain this? HOW? Stop changing the subject here and tell me WHY in hell did Israel let Richard Reid board that plane, WHY? How do either of you shills explain FACT that ICTS was involved in 3 out of 4 bogus "terrorist attacks'"? EXPLAIN LAST TWO QUESTIONS! The only shills here are you two!
sane, yes it could be a way to cause division. In the later posts however it seems rather sincere. Could it be that you both got off to a bad start? I will go and read some old posts to get some perspective.
ak48 | 07.28.07 - 6:07 pm | #
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Nope we actually got off to a great start, that is why i make a point to out her early. she goes in with the:
"yes 911 was an inside job wake up people....
bush and cheney are traitors don't you guys realize that...
and the zionists and the bush's always work together....
israel controls all of our nuclear weapons wake up people [she actually said this, i shit you not]....
zionists are ashkenazis where the real jews are sephardic, ashkenazis are the ones that are evil [similar argument used by weissmann-russian jews/polish jews similar to bush dividing arabs into shia/sunnis]..."
and it just gets worse from there, check the history...you are a phenomenal researcher. I am pretty sure you will figure it out...or you will end up making me look foolish by educating me [for which i amn very thankful]...AGAIN!
The Bush administration has decided to supply billions of dollars in advanced new weapons to Saudi Arabia, other Arab allies of the United States and to Israel, senior State Department officials and congressional aides said Friday.
The Motherfucking traitor has BANKRUPTED AMERICA ON PURPOSE THE BASTARD ALONG WITH BASTARDS IN CONGRESS TOO! AMERICA IS DEAD! THANKS TO TRAITOR'S IN OWN GOV'T AND OUR SO CALLED "ALLIES" TOO!
First of all: What in hell is a "coincidence theorist"? Second: The only real joke is loonies like you who see a Government conspiracy behind every event and a black helicopter behind every cloud. GET A REAL LIFE...OKAY?
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You, my friend are a coincidence theorist. Someone who just rationalizes everything as a coincidence and trusts the government on everything.
You're telling me to get a life when I am on a message board talking to people I agree with and who share the same beliefs.
You are on a message board with people you think are insane and yet you stick around long enough to reply to my post.
If we are truly "loony" then why not, instead of just making very funny jokes, debate with us?
We'll start by Larry Silverstein saying pull it....do you think he was referring to the firefighters?
First of all: What in hell is a "coincidence theorist"? Second: The only real joke is loonies like you who see a Government conspiracy behind every event and a black helicopter behind every cloud. GET A REAL LIFE...OKAY?
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:06 pm | #
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hey buddy...see if you can turn off the mind control for a few minutes so that reality can penetrate...
9-11 coincidence theory:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...492071990669218
More for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...WyJJQbFago&
NR=1
http://video.google.com/
videopla...289437231286745
http://video.google.com/
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I told ya she dont read too good. I also would defend her right to express herself. I have not shut her up, I only enrage her so that she shows her true colors thus contradicting herself. She outs herself via her emotionally powered absense of logic and sanity. I think the past few posts of hers kind of proves my point.
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:02 pm | #
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and i agree that injecting the zionist idea is only hurting our cause sheeple will look at this and think we`re jew haters and racist I`m neither of those
And 9-11 truther why are you so mad? i actualy begining to think you are a troll atempting to poison the well with your zionist noncense
sane, yes it could be a way to cause division. In the later posts however it seems rather sincere. Could it be that you both got off to a bad start? I will go and read some old posts to get some perspective.
Wow good one! You coincidence theorists should write for SNL on your spare time (when you aren't deleting posts and trolling message boards).
Seriously, is that all you can say? Do you have anything intelligent to bring to the conversation or is everything a joke to you?
You're a clown...go back to Wikipedia where you can censor all you want.
card51short | 07.28.07 - 6:00 pm | #
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First of all: What in hell is a "coincidence theorist"? Second: The only real joke is loonies like you who see a Government conspiracy behind every event and a black helicopter behind every cloud. GET A REAL LIFE...OKAY?
Lars and sane, Screw BOTH of YOU! I have NOT bashed the "Jews" but the FUCKING ZIONISTS WHO CARRIED OUT 9-11!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 5:22 pm | #
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I give up i actualy trying to stand up for your right to express your opinion and thats the thatnks i get, well i`ll still defend your right to your opinion please read my post again and know that it was not ironic, maybe its my english thats realy bad i dont know. I didnt try to offend you or call you a racist you`re not
Lars | 07.28.07 - 5:53 pm | #
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I told ya she dont read too good. I also would defend her right to express herself. I have not shut her up, I only enrage her so that she shows her true colors thus contradicting herself. She outs herself via her emotionally powered absense of logic and sanity. I think the past few posts of hers kind of proves my point.
I read your article about the Feds tampering with Wikipedia. You're right. I looked up Elvis Presley, and found NO mention of the CIA faking his death so that they could train him secretly as a sniper/assassin. This is a perfect plan because, after all, who would EVER suspect Elvis??
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Wow good one! You coincidence theorists should write for SNL on your spare time (when you aren't deleting posts and trolling message boards).
Seriously, is that all you can say? Do you have anything intelligent to bring to the conversation or is everything a joke to you?
You're a clown...go back to Wikipedia where you can censor all you want.
I read your article about the Feds tampering with Wikipedia. You're right. I looked up Elvis Presley, and found NO mention of the CIA faking his death so that they could train him secretly as a sniper/assassin. This is a perfect plan because, after all, who would EVER suspect Elvis??
sane, I dont want to debate the topic too extensively, so I will try to sum up my point this way:
Not all freemasons are bad people, in fact almost all of them think they are doing something good. However at 14th degree you learn that your god is lucifer, above that you begin to realize that it is an elitist organisation and eventually you are informed that the plan is world government and mass murder of roughly 90% of the population. (freemasonry is called the age of reason, the same name appears on the Georgia Guidestones which have been linked to the rosicrucians).
Now I ask you this, since only a small fraction of the freemasons are aware of this, even fewer are part of the deciding body, but still freemasonry is part of the vehicle that makes the implementation of the plan possible... is freemasonry in itself a bad thing? Almost all freemasons want to do good, almost all CFR members think they are part of shaping the world into something better... zionism is no different. I am against all three, I say no to masonry, no to zionism and no to CFR.
ak48 | 07.28.07 - 5:47 pm | #
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Again, I agree and do not see any issue between us.
but have you taken a look at the history to see that 911 frauder [and others like her, rich, freddy fatt, etc] does not agree and believes that all evil comes from zionism rather than all of the heads of the secret societies?
Is this not a method for dividing a movement?
Lars and sane, Screw BOTH of YOU! I have NOT bashed the "Jews" but the FUCKING ZIONISTS WHO CARRIED OUT 9-11!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 5:22 pm | #
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I give up i actualy trying to stand up for your right to express your opinion and thats the thatnks i get, well i`ll still defend your right to your opinion please read my post again and know that it was not ironic, maybe its my english thats realy bad i dont know. I didnt try to offend you or call you a racist you`re not
sane, I dont want to debate the topic too extensively, so I will try to sum up my point this way:
Not all freemasons are bad people, in fact almost all of them think they are doing something good. However at 14th degree you learn that your god is lucifer, above that you begin to realize that it is an elitist organisation and eventually you are informed that the plan is world government and mass murder of roughly 90% of the population. (freemasonry is called the age of reason, the same name appears on the Georgia Guidestones which have been linked to the rosicrucians).
Now I ask you this, since only a small fraction of the freemasons are aware of this, even fewer are part of the deciding body, but still freemasonry is part of the vehicle that makes the implementation of the plan possible... is freemasonry in itself a bad thing? Almost all freemasons want to do good, almost all CFR members think they are part of shaping the world into something better... zionism is no different. I am against all three, I say no to masonry, no to zionism and no to CFR.
some reliable military grade stuff and some .3oo win mag brass.......
What is this?
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Shopping list for tomorrows gun show.
Jesus Camp Movie --
http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/
(I have not watched this and probably won't)
I'm sorry, I can't watch that much Guiliani without having my stomach pumped afterwards.
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 5:39 pm | #
it is almost as gut wrenching as jesus camp
US Accuses Saudis of Telling Lies About Iraq
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/1...les/
146697.html
The extent of the deterioration in US-Saudi relations was exposed for the first time yesterday when Washington accused Riyadh of working to undermine the Iraqi government.
I'm sorry, I can't watch that much Guiliani without having my stomach pumped afterwards.
Why Is Rudy Skipping Debate? His YouTube Greatest Hits May Explain All!
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/
elec...may_explain_all
A rival campaign has sent Election Central a collection of Rudy Giuliani s greatest YouTube hits. The idea is to show that the real reason Rudy is threatening to bail on the YouTube debate is because there s too much video ammo from his past that could be used against him by citizens asking tough questions.
Israel was not alone in this warning of a pending attack on the United States // France, Germany, Great Britian // even USAma bin Laden // to name a few more expressed concern in our direction.
Did Bush Know? (of course he did)
http://www.mediamonitors.net/
mos...mosaddeq36.html
San Francisco: Turn in a gun, get a $100.-$200. gift card
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/
ar...eed=rss.bayarea
The public can unload unwanted firearms at San Francisco's Civic Center Plaza today - no questions asked -- and receive $100 to $200 gift cards in return. People who turn in rifles or shotguns will receive a $100 gift card; a revolver or semiautomatic will bring a $150 gift card. Those who bring an assault-type firearm will receive a $200 gift card
iPhone Customer Files Sealed Battery Class-action Lawsuit Against Apple
http://www.dailytech.com/article...spx?
newsid=8218
One iPhone customer wasn't happy at all with the iPhone's battery life or the two alternatives to replacing a defective battery and filed a class-action lawsuit against Apple as a result.
With Gonzales Under Fire, FBI Violation Gains Notice
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml?
hpid=topnews
The violation was the only one after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that the FBI has specifically flagged as intentional. But it has attracted fresh attention because Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales testified six months later that no "verified case of civil liberties abuse" had occurred since the USA Patriot Act was enacted.
Organised "sex camps" for Russia's teenagers
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
pages...in_page_id=1770
Nashi's annual camp, is attended by 10,000 uniformed youngsters and involves two weeks of lectures and physical fitness. Alcohol is banned, but sex is encouraged, especially if it "produces" a baby.
I went to www.iamthewitness.com,and it seems clear to me now that they are trying to diminish the roll of any other political/global movement ACCEPT Zionism.They name call and beat people up at every turn.Pathetic.O.K.,so P.N.A.C. was authored by those who lead you to you believe they are are Zionists,and they very well may be,but that dosen't mean the only foe of peace is Zionism.Evil works as a team.If Hufschmid and company were not so quick to point the finger at others who are trying to shed some light on the darkness we face from EVERY evil faction,not just Zionism,maybe they could use they're knowledge to bring people together NOT tear them apart.The tone of the website is suspicious in my view.
When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always.
Mahatma Gandhi
Just because Mossad warned CIA that bogus boogeymen " Al-CIA-da" were in U.S. does NOT mean they were NOT involved in 9-11! What fucking better way to frame others! It's the Mossad's MO!
Ron Paul On WPHT w/ Michael Smerconish PT 1 of 2
http://
gocampaign2008.blogspot.c...smerconish.html
Presidential Candidate Ron Paul appeared on WPHT 1210AM Philadelphia on 7-5-07. He discusses his voting record, United States relations with foreign countries, including Pakistan and Iraq, and why the terrorists attacked our nation on September 11th.
Letters written by Hillary Clinton in the '60s
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...=rssnyt&
emc=rss
In other letters, she would convey a mounting exasperation with her rigid conservative father and disdain for both “debutante” dormmates and an acid-dropping friend. She would issue a blanket condemnation of the “boys” she had met and also tell of an encounter she had with “a Dartmouth boy”.
in spain when Franco attempted to seaze power, the anarchist and the libretarian socialists revolted and reganized society in parts of Spain for awhile, until they were betrayed by the stalinists and the Republic
Having sex with a non-consenting woman is legal, as long as she's dead
http://wcco.com/local/
local_stor..._207143827.html
The three men went to a cemetery in Cassville in southwestern Wisconsin on Sept. 2 to remove the body of Laura Tennessen, 20, who had been killed the week before in a motorcycle crash.
The Bush administration has decided to supply billions of dollars in advanced new weapons to Saudi Arabia, other Arab allies of the United States and to Israel, senior State Department officials and congressional aides said Friday.
Just fucking wonderful! Now the SAME Goddamn country that helped do 9-11 Bush is giving more arms too!
the 1930 were not all about fascism and state-communism, two sides of the same coin called tyranny.
the 30's were also a time a great agitation by conservative libretarians as well as "freecommunism" libretarian socialism and anarchism, marginalized idiologies that constantly get swept under the rug
http:// www.cooperativeresearch.o...eytriedtowarnus
They Tried to Warn Us: Foreign Intelligence Warnings Before 9/11
***extract***
Some have claimed that the existence of this spy ring shows that Israel was behind the 9/11 attacks, an argument that is beyond the scope of this essay. But if the mainstream media is to be believed, Israel gave the US several specific warnings of the 9/11 attacks. In the second week of August 2001, two high-ranking agents from the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, came to Washington and warned the CIA and FBI that 50 to 200 al-Qaeda terrorists had slipped into the US and were planning an imminent “major assault on the US” aimed at a “large scale target” [Telegraph, 9/16/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01, Ottawa Citizen, 9/17/01 Fox News, 5/17/02]. Near the end of August, France also gave a warning that was an “echo” of Israel’s. [Fox News, 5/17/02]
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 5:21 pm | #
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nice catch i have heard that but you put it to an undebunkable state, but it was not just mossad, german russian phillipine uk intelligence also warned us.
our own fbi tried to warn us.
these guys are above any group/nation/race/religion
they just believe that the world is theirs and we are breathing their air.
The Bush administration has decided to supply billions of dollars in advanced new weapons to Saudi Arabia, other Arab allies of the United States and to Israel, senior State Department officials and congressional aides said Friday.
sane, You forgot to mention Israel too! Don't forget his is rewarding Israel also!
Let's Save the Country with Ron Paul
http://principledpolitics.blogsp...h-ron-
paul.html
This is 40 minute re-mix of all major Ron Paul media appearances, it was designed to be distributed on DVDs. 13000 DVDs have been printed for distribution in Iowa (which has the earliest primaries and an important straw poll).
Lars and sane, Screw BOTH of YOU! I have NOT bashed the "Jews" but the FUCKING ZIONISTS WHO CARRIED OUT 9-11! All of PNAC group is Zionists and you KNOW they brainstormed 9-11! Screw both of you! It's NOT the damn "Jews" I am bashing but Zionists you assholes and YOU FUCKING KNOW IT TOO! Shove mass murdering Larry Silverstein up your asses! sane, I am sure you like Larry don't you? You love Larry don't you sane! What about Larry sane? Or PNAC group sane? Huh? What about those Zionists one and all ,sane? You think they are OK too don't you sane? Answer me! For the last fucking time here stop saying I hate "Jews" when I have said thousand of times it's Zionists I hate! Who have also murdered Jews too but you know all this don't you sane! Your just trying to defend your mass murdering Zionist friends by trying to discredit me is all! And trying to shift discussion away from facts that Mossad helped do 9-11 too are you sane? And the ICTS has been involved in 3 out of 4 bogus "terrorist attacks' too! Moderator, post my damn comments, the first time I would NOT have to retype them the second time! Now post this!
MIT: Building the Real Transformers
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...?
pagewanted=all
At the Humanoid Robotics Group at M.I.T., a robot ’s “humanoid” qualities can include fallibility and whininess as much as physical traits like head, arms and torso. But these early incarnations of sociable robots are also much more than meets the eye.
http://
www.cooperativeresearch.o...eytriedtowarnus
They Tried to Warn Us: Foreign Intelligence Warnings Before 9/11
***extract***
Some have claimed that the existence of this spy ring shows that Israel was behind the 9/11 attacks, an argument that is beyond the scope of this essay. But if the mainstream media is to be believed, Israel gave the US several specific warnings of the 9/11 attacks. In the second week of August 2001, two high-ranking agents from the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, came to Washington and warned the CIA and FBI that 50 to 200 al-Qaeda terrorists had slipped into the US and were planning an imminent “major assault on the US” aimed at a “large scale target” [Telegraph, 9/16/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01, Ottawa Citizen, 9/17/01 Fox News, 5/17/02]. Near the end of August, France also gave a warning that was an “echo” of Israel’s. [Fox News, 5/17/02]
Wikipedia and the Intelligence Services
http://english.ohmynews.com/arti...374006&
rel_no=1
I had learned from a recently released U.S. National Archives file that Shin Bet, the Israeli Security Agency, had infiltrated the PFLP and helped the Entebbe hijackers (Israeli commandos rescued the hostages in Uganda in 1976), so I wanted to learn more about the link between the PFLP and the PFLP-GC.
According to Fox News 4chan Is A Terrorist Organization
http://video.google.com/videopla...+Fox11&total=1&
Forget Al-Qaeda, Anonymous is the real terrorist! They are "hackers on steroids" who do not forget or forgive. They destroy peoples lives in order to get "lulz". They get BIG "lulz" from pulling random pranks. Lock your doors and shut your windows, there is no escaping them!
Good knight! New images found in Da Vinci's 'Last Supper'?
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...7/70725061/
1001
A computer analyst says he has discovered new images in Leonardo Da Vinci ’s “The Last Supper,” one of the world’s most loved religious paintings. But some experts were skeptical, dismissing the claim as another spin-off of Dan Brown’s best-selling novel “The Da Vinci Code.”
First Class Action Lawsuit Against Apple and AT&T
http://mashable.com/2007/07/27/a...action-lawsuit/
Apple and AT&T now have a class action lawsuit that’s been filed against them.
World Net Daily Attempts to Debunk Tillman Murder Evidence As Leftist Consp
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...bunktillman.htm
World Net Daily today sought to dismiss clear evidence that Pat Tillman was murdered by attempting to marginalize the issue as a leftist conspiracy theory and by suggesting Wesley Clark and Keith Olbermann didnt lend credence to the murder angle - when they clearly did.
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Ron Paul has more substance than any other candidate
http://www.transworldnews.com/
Ne...et=Default.aspx
Ron Paul will never avoid a question.
BushCo announces rewards for 9/11-backing Saudis
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...-
a_n_58202.html
The proposed $20-billion package of advanced weaponry for Saudi Arabia, which includes advanced satellite-guided bombs, upgrades to its fighters and new naval vessels, has made Israel and some of its supporters in Congress nervous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...related&
search=
PLease watch this good video!
Communes Make A Comeback In Australia
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/
...4559990249.html
"They are no longer run by hippies, anarchists and potheads but a much more familiar breed: the suburban professional concerned about climate change and soaring house prices; the cashed-up city slicker seeking a simpler life; and parents wanting space for their kids to play."
Tax Man Views Your House from Space to Reach New Highs
http://www.davickservices.com/
sa...elp_tax_man.htm
Tax authorities are using satellite images generated by a free program called Google Earth to re-evaluate your home values, track down fraud, and wage ‘real war’ on fiscal deficits.
CINDY SHEEHAN: Hillary Clinton 'my least favorite Dem'...
http://thehill.com/20-questions/...2007-05-
02.html
That figures....
Google Plans YouTube Antipiracy Tool for September
http://www.pcworld.com/
printable...printable.html#
YouTube will launch a system in September designed to prevent pirated material from going up on the site. Google plans to generate a library of digital video fingerprints that would be used to screen clips being uploaded to YouTube, said Philip Beck, one of the attorneys representing Google and YouTube.
Bush has helped drive a generation of young people into the Dem Party
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...ds-are-alright/
Once they make up their minds in their twenties which party they like better, they generally stick with it for the rest of their lives. So the Republican Party ’s deal with the devil to embrace the Christian Right might have helped them out for a while, but in the long term it’s a disaster.
The US Army begins using a new combat training for soldiers going to Iraq.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?
i=9...=92d_1185628915
The US Army begins using a new live fire combat training technology (MMSR) for soldiers going to Iraq and Afghanistan.
Los Angeles DWP in Crisis
By: Nicole Belle @ 11:31 AM - PDT
Our infrastructure is aging across the country, case in point the explosion in New York the other week. In Los Angeles, the workers at the Department and Water and Power have been warning for years that the DWP is just not prepared to respond to a heat wave, let alone a major disaster like a heat wave. They have no idea where the weak points in the system are, and equipment is decades past life expectancy. The DWP is vastly undermanned and it is putting the power supply and safe drinking water for millions at risk.
The workers have produced a video to draw public attention to the issue before it is too late. As one worker so bluntly puts it: “The infrastructure is on it’s last legs. It is ready to take a dump.”
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-dwp-in-crisis/
Who Killed John O'Neill?
http://video.google.com/
videopla...who+killed+john
911-TRUTHER i feel with you, You dare to badmouth the jews and the wrath of god `s own people comes down on you, even though i think you`re wrong for thinking that zionist are responsible you shuld still be able to express your opinion i dont think any one grup is responsible they all in on it im sure the israeli had something to do with it but the real criminals are bush and tricky dicky thats just my opinion though, they wont be able to hide this for long either the entire world knows, a large portion of americans know, the train ir rolling and the devil worshipers cant stop te truth no mather what they try next
Lars | 07.28.07 - 4:57 pm | #
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i feel for her too and do not think anyone should be bashed for expressing their opinion.
it is definitely not the place for a free society.
California State Voting Machines Fail Test Performed By Hackers
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/
ar...MNGP6R8TJO1.DTL
State-sanctioned teams of computer hackers were able to break through the security of virtually EVERY model of California's voting machines and change results or take control of some of the systems' electronic functions.
911-TRUTHER i feel with you, You dare to badmouth the jews and the wrath of god `s own people comes down on you, even though i think you`re wrong for thinking that zionist are responsible you shuld still be able to express your opinion i dont think any one grup is responsible they all in on it im sure the israeli had something to do with it but the real criminals are bush and tricky dicky thats just my opinion though, they wont be able to hide this for long either the entire world knows, a large portion of americans know, the train ir rolling and the devil worshipers cant stop te truth no mather what they try next
Judge Orders Lesbian Mom to Marry A Man Or Lose Her Kids
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/pe...ogs/peek/58196/
Jessica Valenti: A judge in Spanish child custody case links lesbians with satantic sects.
Bush | Modernized Wiretaps, Anyone? Everyone?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/
2...in3107310.shtml
The only thing more outrageous than the administration's call for even more unfettered power is a Congress that would consider giving it to them
Ron Paul Finishes 2nd in Georgetown SC Republican Straw Poll
http://ronpaul.typepad.com/my_we...aul-
finish.html
I just got off the phone with Tom Swatzel, chairman of the Georgetown County Republican Party. Here are the official results of the straw poll out of 223 votes cast: Fred Thompson - 102 Ron Paul - 40 Mitt Romney - 37 Duncan Hunter - 15 Rudy Giuliani - 13 John McCain - 7 Sam Brownback - 6 Newt Gingrich - 2 Daniel Gilbert - 1
U.S. to Sell Arms to Six Pro-Western Gulf States
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...mail/
components
In move to offset Iran's influence, White House plans its largest-ever weapons sale to allies in region, plus new aid packages for Egypt, Israel.
Irony alert: Microsoft, AT&T oppose Google/DoubleClick merger on antitrust
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/...st-
grounds.html
Over the weekend, executives from convicted monopolists Microsoft and AT&T both raised antitrust questions about the proposed merger between Google and DoubleClick, which could give the combined company control of 85 percent of the online advertising market.
What is the True Cost of Windows?
http://www.astralsin.com/archive...ost-of-windows/
Another memorable tale of the battle of Linux vs Windows and why switching to Linux can save you stress on the pocketbook and your sanity.
If Microsoft Joins In, Can Open Source be a "Revolution"?
http://www.technewsworld.com/rss...tory/
58552.html
Microsoft stopped fighting the existence of the Linux open source operating system Manage remotely with one interface and began selling it. Indeed, Microsoft was one of three diamond sponsors of the O'Reilly convention in Portland, Ore., last week. All this is not sitting well with some old revolutionaries.
Dining With Hitler In Asia: Hitler-themed Bars & Restaurants
http://www.who-sucks.com/people/...ars-
restaurants
Weird Hitler Themed Restaurants and Bars
Fox News Leaks Secret Files
http://www.astalavista.com/?sect...ils&
newsid=4036
FOX NEWS has been telling the world+dog about its doings thanks to an insecure web server. Insecurity experts found a gaping security hole in Fox News Network Web site which revealed file directories and sensitive content. Several directories were visible on a server for Fox News that should normally not be accessible by a Web browser over the
Ron Paul knows the Federal Reserve is...
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=0
Ron Paul knows exactly what this video goes to show. It's a long one, so sit back, and relax, and learn something. THEN you'll understand Candidate Paul's legislative positions, and you might just take a few of them with you!
Accountant Wins $662,363 in Whistleblower Suit against Police
http://www.davickservices.com/
ac...660000_suit.htm
Eric Heckmann, a former accountant with the City of Detroit was just doing his job when he wrote a letter to officials reporting what he believed to be evidence of financial misconduct within the police department...
Mike Gravel - On Soldiers Dying "In Vain" in Vietnam and Iraq
http://www.gravel2008.us/?q=node/1822
"Let me be clear: I believe our soldiers are both patriotic and professional, but they are dying unnecessarily because of the immoral decisions of our civilian leaders. ” The real threats now to a sane Middle East policy to stop the killing are the so-called “voices of reason” who advocate a “new direction” and a phased withdrawal..."
First Flight of X-48B Blended Wing Body Aircraft Prototype
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/the-r...type-
283547.php
Here's a pic of the new X-48B, Boeing's Blended Wing Body research aircraft in flight for the first time. The prototype, developed by Boeing Phantom Works with cooperation from NASA and the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory, flew for 31 minutes, reaching an altitude of 7,500 feet. Check the sexy gallery and jump for more details about the BWB.
Hiding the bad news
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...g-the-bad-news/
For some inexplicable reason, Republicans have been preoccupied for quite some time with Baghdad ’s electrical supply, pointing to it as one of the good-news stories that Americans allegedly don’t hear about.
UNANSWERED 9/11 MIRACLES
http://www.opednews.com/
articles...9_2f11_mira.htm
Eventually, hopefully during our lifetime, Pandora's Box will be fully opened regarding the 9/11 cover-up and the world will reel in shock and awe ~ when the monstrous truth is known to one and all : Allen L Roland
Sorry frauder, the anger quickie was fun but I gotta get back to work...
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Former telco chief jailed for six years
http://newsindetails.com/eng/bus...business/40572/
A US federal judge has handed Joseph Nacchio, former chief of imploded telecom giant Qwest, six years in prison for insider trading and ordered him to pay $US71 million ($83m).
911-TRUTHER //
Here's something for you to think about when it comes to 9/11 -- When we say that 9/11 was an inside job THAT MEANS that a rogue element operating from within our own government is the ones responsible. There may very well have been others employeed (follow the $$) to assist in this effort BUT the true culprits in 9/11 are homegrown crazies. Did those in power here within our government use patsies in their evil plans? Probably, most likely, sure. Did those in power here within our own government work hand in hand with some questionable foreign rogue element in assisting in the suc