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When I discovered Jesus , apart from what religions said about him, I found what I needed. Every other truth merely orbits around the embodiment of truth that he is.
Every other indvidual truth makes contact with him just long enough to " spin off" and start a "new ' religion .
I am not good at explaining it but I have simply never known anything as spiritual as Jesus Christ. You would not believe the things that have happened to me since I left religion and found this love. You simply wouldnt' believe it.
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Beautifully said, Kells, thanks!
But I think you are sweet to want to bless me !
Blessings Shallel !
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Yes I do like you and think you are sweet!
In case you didn't know, that was me, kells
Kells, I really think you would appriciate the writing of Mary Sparrodancer. Her website is sparrowdancer.com -
Blessings
Shallel | 08.02.07 - 11:54 am |
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I have looked into, and sometimes been part of, the multiplied thousands of " religions" out there, while I was searching for anything that I could be sure of , anything real.
I don't like religion anymore because it complicates a relationship with the Creator that should be so simple that a child can understand.
As I went through the revolving door of religions , I came full circle and re-discovered Jesus Christ. He was suddenly completely, naturally, and breathtakingly spiritual. I thought at one time that " Jesus" was the problem. But as I pressed in to the Creator begging for the truth, I found that it was religion that was the problem all along .
Religions seek to eradicate OR minimize the person of Jesus Christ. Anti -christ religions seek to eradicate completely the person of Jesus Christ and subsitute another '' Christ "
Pro- Christ religions ( Christianity's sects) each take a shot at minimizing the person of Jesus Christ a peice at a time. Sect one says " We believe THIS "
Sect two says " Well we believe THAT "..... and on it goes until Jesus is stripped of all semblence of meaning, and purpose, and personhood.
What they " believe" becomes a substitute for truth. What they "believe" becomes a god to them.
I am done looking Shallel. When I discovered Jesus , apart from what religions said about him, I found what I needed. Every other truth merely orbits around the embodiment of truth that he is.
Every other indvidual truth makes contact with him just long enough to " spin off" and start a "new ' religion .
I am not good at explaining it but I have simply never known anything as spiritual as Jesus Christ. You would not believe the things that have happened to me since I left religion and found this love. You simply wouldnt' believe it.
Mary Sparrowdancer appears to me, to be substituting , or minimizing his person, just like Christianity's 10,000 sects have been so successful at doing , as well as non - christian religions.
But I think you are sweet to want to bless me !
Blessings Shallel !
just to comment on the use of surveillance devices and listening devices, the goal of their use is to maintain security. in the article Telstra faces probe over spy claims, it should be noted that any type of listening device or tracking device used for surveillance should not red flag the police into thinking that any wrong doing was taking place.
Shallel, you sure have got a lotta learning to do about the bible. Next time you try to quote scripture, make sure you understand what you're talking about please as to you won't be deceived or deceive others. I read the entire 8th chapter of john and "nowhere" did jesus call God a liar. Also, God is called Yaweh, and The Father while Jesus is referenced to sometimes as :The Lamb, Melchezidek, and Son of the Father. I am not trying to chide you or be argumentative, but you're printing falsehoods here with your replies. I won't be getting anymore comments in my email on this blog anymore, my space is always cluttered with more than 200 replies daily.
Kells, I really think you would appriciate the writing of Mary Sparrodancer. Her website is sparrowdancer.com -
Blessings
Ron Paul was considered a maverick up until this interview. Now, I'm not sure what to think of the man.
MrNOITALL | 08.01.07 - 12:28 pm |
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Do you have the link to the video? I'd like to see it if you do.
call me an "Atheist for Christ"
Peace
Shallel | 08.01.07 - 12:28 pm |
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Atheist for Christ - funny....
Me too Shallel. Catholic grade, middle, and even 2 years of high school.
I stopped going to church before I found out about any atrocities. I just stopped because I had heard it all before and I wasn't interested in hearing it repeated, every sunday, anymore. Same stuff ( mass) , different priest.
Thanks for answering me , I find people very interesting and I appreciate you.
Ron Paul is a Republican. Need I say More?
Ron has no idea how these comments will effect his support. Who is the idiot interviewing him anyway? I'd like to kick that piss-ant in the teeth.
Ron,
We need you buddy, If your comments in regards to 911 are honest, then I question your ability to interpret reality. If those comments are political in nature and you don't really believe them yourself, then I'm afraid a good percentage of your supporters are going to find them insulting.
Ron Paul was considered a maverick up until this interview. Now, I'm not sure what to think of the man.
Hey kells, I was raised Catholic including Catholic School, gave it up when I learned of the atrocities committed by the Church. Connected with my Higher Self through meditation and visualization, so I get direct truth in that way now. (Including a direct knowledge of Jesus and Christ Conciousness) I guess you could
call me an "Atheist for Christ" 
Peace
Ron's comments on 911 felt like being kicked in the gut. I am very disappointed in him. He stands up in front of Congress and talks about Terrorism being use as a tool by the US Government. In an interview with Alex Jones, Ron Paul agrees that another false flag operation is possible and then he categorically designs that 911 was an inside job and by doing so kicks half of his supporters squarely in the teeth. I don't get it. He is still the only Candidate I will support and i will support him but My respect for the is wavering after this interview.
no really this interview really nakes me ponder about the true pres. paul
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Net neutrality is a bad name for a bad idea. Just like the patriot act has nothing patriotic about it. If he voted against it , thats good.
so first we find out he is against net nutrality now he moved to the left of us on the 911 issue..... i wonder what will ron paul divulge about him self that we didnt know...... next thing you know he'll be calling for the arrest of 911 truthers lol..... no really this interview really nakes me ponder about the true pres. paul
Guess you gotta point.
Cheers,
tsukato
I wonder why all his supporters don't organize more, and work/fight for some real change, instead of letting one man take the brunt.
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Ron Paul knows what he is up against. As far as his supporters , I have been to a few of his meetups where people can form groups locally to work together for RP and the cooperation and comraderie is amazing. These people are working hard for him and taking money out of pocket to buy their own supplies , ads , etc.
You and I should be so lucky to have the love and support he has.
There is no candidate running for the nomination that has more loyal and committed people. I hope he knows how much he is loved and appreciated.
I happen to believe that working for RP is on many levels, working for real change. If he doesn't get nominated on the republican ticket , its all over anyway. No harm done.
I hope this helps clarify things, and I do wish you blessings, and hope you will not be deceived.
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It does, I thank you , and since we all stand the same chance of being deceived, getting to the truth is of utmost importance.
Since all of us are deceived on one level or another, in one area or another, I hope we can learn how to not be deceived together. Into the truth together is my prayer.
May I ask what your religious background is ?
I hope this helps clarify things, and I do wish you blessings, and hope you will not be deceived.
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I absolutely support Mr. Paul 100%, however, with things being the way they are, if he gains any really substantial following, he will be tagged a dead man. I wish it were so simple that one man could bring change to this absolutely F*cked up system, but I am afraid that anything short of a real blood letting will be futile. Theres too much to be lost ,by too many souless monsters contolling this country. It seems that by organizing and supporting Mr. Paul, we all may end up bringing a wonderful man's life to a tragic end. I wonder why all his supporters don't organize more, and work/fight for some real change, instead of letting one man take the brunt.
kells, Let me simplify.
I love Christ, and I recognize his compassion in you. I hate Satan, who is also known by the names Jahovah, Yahwey, Allah, and God. He is the God of Abraham, who would command Abramham to kill his son. He is the War God, and Christians, Jews, and Moslems have indeed been doing his bidding as U can see in the world today. He is the wrathful one who will have no other gods before him.
Christ came to tell us of His Father in Heaven, who is pure Love and always everywhere, even in the hearts of Men.
Jesus came to illustrate our nature as Loving Co-creators of Heaven on Earth.
He came to break the spell of the WRATHFUL God, but the message has been
corrupted and Jesus was linked to the God of the Jews.
I hope this helps clarify things, and I do wish you blessings, and hope you will not be deceived.
Cheney is a unique creature, in the same way that satan is.
Shallel | 07.31.07 - 12:28 pm |
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This is so convoluted in so many ways it is impossible to know how or where to start.
But it is also impossible to miss the underlying anger and hatred you have for God .
If I believed for one second that God was demented and doubleminded ( the way you make him out to be) then I would hate him too.
So the question at this moment is , which version is true. Your interpretation / understanding of the bible and a hateful God , or my interpretation / understanding of the bible and a loving God.
We can't both be right.
" Understanding that Jesus was, indeed, the opponent of Jehovah also helps one understand the otherwise incomprehensible dialogue that appears in John 8 of the New Testament. There, Jesus refers to Jehovah as a liar, a murderer and the devil. These are not words coming from a loving son. They are the words coming from Jehovah's staunch and unrelenting political opponent. A quiet, wounded prophet from an opposing god, he is an opponent who has quietly refused to give up on a battle that has been waged over humanity's freedom since Genesis "
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Isn't it sad that these "Christians" don't know Christ at all?
"There is but one god, is there not?"
In actuality, monotheism is a myth. One has only to read the Old Testament to see that there were other gods, many having attributes quite different from the war god most Christians think is the "god of the universe." Belief in an unknowable god of the universe or the god of nature would more correctly be termed "deism." "Monotheism" suggests that a selection among various gods has taken place, and that one god from among them has been chosen.
Whether one places any belief in the bible or completely dismisses everything within it, when its literal, fundamental interpretation and its out-dated standards of conduct suddenly begin metastasizing into the governing instrument for one of the world's most powerful nations, all would do well to become familiar with the Old Testament. This should be done while keeping in mind that the English translations vary considerably from what was actually written in Hebrew. Regardless, reading the Old Testament might, in fact, serve as a scriptural "heads-up" for a world that is now largely in awe of what is happening. It might explain the current tailspin that America seems to be experiencing.
It is in the latter chapters of the book of Zechariah that Jehovah, the old Judeo Christian war god, begins having another of his jealous and coveting mood swings. These are mood swings for which Jehovah is well-known throughout the Old Testament, because when Jehovah has mood swings, death and destruction soon follow. One will notice that the destruction is not necessarily carried out by Jehovah, of course. The murder and destruction are carried out by those listening to Jehovah, taking literally his biblical instructions to destroy and kill again, and again, and again--and thus doing his bidding, again, and again, and again.
In reality, however, the split personality found in Zechariah occurred because more than one author penned the book of Zechariah. According to the New American Bible, scholars date the first eight chapters of Zechariah's prophecy to 520 B.C. No one, those scholars say, knows who wrote the last six chapters, or even the dates when they were written. They were simply penned by an unknown author or authors. Because those chapters are contained in "the bible," however, they are viewed by fundamentalists as the "inspired word of God."
In Chapter Ten, another angry wrath of god begins growing, this one against shepherds. All of Judah will be turned into warriors, and "They shall wage war because Jehovah is with them."
"Strike the shepherd that the sheep may be dispersed," sings Jehovah. This certainly does not sound like a father speaking about his beloved, "only begotten son." It sounds like a jealous god who is going to strike down the works of a shepherd whose teachings oppose the teachings of Jehovah.
"I will turn my hand against the little ones," Jehovah further sings, and one third of the people will be "refined" and Jehovah will then say (according to Zechariah), "They are my people," and the people will say, "Jehovah is my god."
At this time, one-third of the people on earth are Christians. They have been "refined" in part due to the works of the Early Church Fathers who decided to teach that the god of Jesus was Jehovah, the war god of Israel, thus defeating the purpose of Jesus--and his attempt to replace the draconian/Jehovah laws with laws that respected human rights and civil liberties.
One-third of the people on earth, including the majority of people living in the United States, have been "refined" into followers and soldiers of Jehovah. This explains the contradiction in terms of "Christian soldiers." It is the "Christian soldier" who has been conveniently doing the bidding of Jehovah for the better part of 2000 years. With such help, the bloodiest wars on earth have been made possible. With the Christian beliefs that we must bear as many children as capable of bearing, we will be assured of an endless supply of Christian soldiers who, as little ones, are taught in the innocence of childhood that there is none other than Jehovah, and there is no escaping him.
The recent emergence of the Gospel of Judas affirms what many will find to be the strangest of all concepts--that the one commonly referred to as Jesus was not the son of Jehovah, but he was instead the opponent of Jehovah.
He had come (again) to reestablish rights and liberties, replacing the harsh unbending and unforgiving laws of those whose ways were in need of change. The existence of this Gospel of Judas was known to the Early Church Fathers, but it was kept hidden from the public.
Understanding that Jesus was, indeed, the opponent of Jehovah also helps one understand the otherwise incomprehensible dialogue that appears in John 8 of the New Testament. There, Jesus refers to Jehovah as a liar, a murderer and the devil. These are not words coming from a loving son. They are the words coming from Jehovah's staunch and unrelenting political opponent. A quiet, wounded prophet from an opposing god, he is an opponent who has quietly refused to give up on a battle that has been waged over humanity's freedom since Genesis 2.
At this time, as people ask others on the internet "Who would Jesus bomb?" it really makes much more sense to ask instead the old standard question: WWJD, or "What would Jesus do?"
According to what has been written since ancient times, he would most likely do exactly as he has always done. He would oppose Jehovah. #
Mary Sparrowdancer is the author of "The Love Song of the Universe," and of numerous papers and articles, including "The Gospel of Judas, Barbelo and Long-Kept Secrets," which can be seen here: http://www.rense.com/general71/d.../
defmo.htm Mary is a health, science, political and spiritual writer with extensive studies in laboratory sciences, ancient history and biblical studies in four languages. www.sparrowdancer.com. sparrowdancer1@earthlink.net
For the lost ones in this blog who denounce christ, I actually see people who don't even know him, which explains your ignorance as to what's happening and who's the orchestrator of it all. Common biblical knowledge shows that satan was cast outta heaven because he thought he was as powerful as the most high (God), yet God made lucifer one of the most beautiful angels ever, but he tossed him and his cherubs to earth to reign here until he decided to send back his son (Jesus). God created man perfect, but it was lucifer who corrupted him, thus initiating free-will of the flesh, which is what we're seeing today within our world leaders! Nothing but pure greed rules the world now, and yet many diss scripture because it explains everything as it unfolds. The argument after an event takes place is that when something happens, christains use scripture to justify their bibles, but the real mystery is that when an event does take place, a book that was written over 2000 years ago comes to life before all of our eyes and the non-believers refuse to fathom it because they know they can't control the writings and satan knows that he has but a short time left to deceive as many souls as possible! True and faithful followers of Christ have nothing to fear at all, for they know where they're going when the time comes, but sinners and non-believers, well, their flesh professes a big rebellion on the outside, and that's satan using them for all he can, but in even their hearts they walk around daily, watching events unfold and ask themselves, hmmmm, what if those christains were right?! I've got one single thing to say to sinners and anyother non-believers, Try Jesus, afterall, satan will always take you back!
You Christian are a sick bunch, worshipping you war god, Jehovah or Yahwey or Satan.
You won't make the cut. You will be deceived.
Wake up you flock of dumb sheep!
Your Apocalypse is a stage play by the Pentagon!
What worms!
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It's amazing what some people have to say (forum or to their shit before it's flushed down the toilet and away // where I might add it must take their brains along with it).
I really wanted to repost this crap (above) if only to show how lame brained a few people truly can be. He or she has combined our plight that we are faced with here in the USA having gangsters as our controllers INTO something that is our fault, more so the fault of those that believe in the Bible. I've sat that for more than a few minutes trying to connect the dots on that and it is beyond me to understand the logic that person wishes to relay. It's crap -- plain and simple.
They want to bash us (the USA) and they want to bash us (the ones that believe in Christ) //
What they do in the process is bash themself in the head with their idiotic far too stupid remarks. But thanks for sharing.
"Libel suits aren't vehicles to rewrite history," Peter Canfield, attorney for the AJC"
No... they are vehicles to rewrite false history.
What a turkey.
Marjorie, Will you please repost what Bald Menace said? I don't know how to figure out pages!
9-11 truther | 07.30.07 - 9:41 pm
Okay, here it is:
Are they really that diluted to think they can defeat THE LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS
JESUS CHRIST??
now a question for you that favor violent reaction to the NWO, do you think you can stop these "people" with your guns?
How long is that "pristine running brook" you ""know"" o,f going to go un-poisoned??
How long do you really expect to survive a man hunt after they have all the sheep corraled??
I give you a week to 10 days before they find and poison you?? But I beleive If you trust in the inner voice of His Holy spirit you will find sanctuary in the earth, In other words, God has some "hididng places for us during tribulation,
Do not trust in your own "stash" ( i pray it IS there for you, but don't be surprised if its gone!,and maybe agents watching your spot and waiting?)
Remember peeps, we are dealing with individuals that no doubt have satans centuries of human watching and know how to deceive you into thinking you are safe!
Trust in the LORD with all your heart,mind and soul, and do not depend on your earthly preperations.
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Marjorie, Will you please repost what Bald Menace said? I don't know how to figure out pages!
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I was wrong; it was Aqua Teen Hunger Force. And this is how you change pages: Go up to the "address" and left click on the last number like "6" if you are on page 56. Then go to your right arrow and move it over one space to the right andl the pink screen will disappear. Then move your left arrow back and type in the right number, delete the other if it is still there, and then hit the "go" bar or just hit enter. If you make a mistake, just hit the Esc key and it will all come back. Good luck!
alfonso , GO to hell you evil bastard! You probably worship Satan! F YOU! Moderator, if you would fucking post my message the first time, I would NOT have to retype!
Tear up those fucking bibles and you may recover!
Sickening, sniveling "Christians"!
alfonso | 07.30.07 - 9:57 pm
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shut-up and come to bed my preciousssssssssss
ive made it niiiisssssse and HOT for you
hisssssshisssssssbooooohahahahahahhahaha
Tear up those fucking bibles and you may recover!
Sickening, sniveling "Christians"!
Well, the Bible tells you how you can protect your family. Bald Menace is on the right track over on 57 (I think that's his name).
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.30.07 - 7:54 pm
Please repost as I don't know how to go to that page, please?
Marjorie, Will you please repost what Bald Menace said? I don't know how to figure out pages!
How do you figure out what page is where? I don't know how to change the pages??
You Christian are a sick bunch, worshipping you war god, Jehovah or Yahwey or Satan.
You won't make the cut. You will be deceived.
Wake up you flock of dumb sheep!
Your Apocalypse is a stage play by the Pentagon!
What worms!
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Well, the Bible tells you how you can protect your family. Bald Menace is on the right track over on 57 (I think that's his name).
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No, it's Aqua Teen Hunger Force. He's pretty close to the truth.
Not sure if anyone has seen this yet. At least I haven't until today!
Not sure but I do think this is Loose Change Final Cut.
At least I think it is an hour long rough draft of it.
Loose Change Final Cut:
http://www.visualvendetta.com/to...b/
viewlink.html
I really do think it is a draft version. I hope it is a draft version. I looks so raw. But it is still good. Alex Jones is in it. Not sure why Mark Dice isn't. I was told that he was suppose to be in there. Anyways.
Marjorie, And how are you going to protect your family? I DO believe we MUST pray but not prayer alone! Do you know what I have heard they have planned for us Christian's? Do you? Putting us up on telephone phones and cruxifing us like Jesus til we renounce God and Jesus! Remember what Bible says! We will NOT be able to buy or sell ANYTHING WITHOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST! IF I were you I would start stocking up on ALL survival gear and NOW! Including guns and ammo too! They will drag you kicking and screaming to one of their 800 FEMA camps, to rape and torture you! Yes, they have more guns then we do, and bigger but IF and this is BIG IF,we can really try to become media and WAKE the fucking sheeple up including cops and military (some of whom are in bed with them,too) we stand a better chance! And there ARE some cops and military on our side in this fight,too! Just not enough yet! Margie, your a fool NOT to try and protect your family!
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Well, the Bible tells you how you can protect your family. Bald Menace is on the right track over on 57 (I think that's his name).
Marjorie, You can DO both! Stock up on guns and ammo and also keep an eye on this guy too! What we ALL have to do is No.1 spread the word about truth about 9-11 and fast and also tell people Marshall Law is coming and also tell people how damn bad NAU is too! And urge ALL to stock up on silver coins too so when they collapse our dollar on purpose, pure evil Zionist Rothchild, it will NOT hurt us that badly! IF we can not stop them! We MUST try to STOP ALL of this first and spread word but at same time, stock up on all stuff too! Marjorie, WHY can't you do both about watching that guy? It is said Anti-Christ is Price Charles as his name equals 666 in all 3 languages! I don't know if that is true or not! And your right on about praying too but we must not just pray for help either! Didn't God say I help those that help themselves? They might have bigger guns BUT who will man them if we convince people of what is truth? Unless they use foreign troops?
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They'll use everything. They are very well-ordered and very organized. The Bible says they will be given power to overcome us and we will go into captivity and under their control. Those who kill with the sword (or gun) will be killed with the sword, and this is to test the faith and belief of the saints--much like God tested Abraham when He ordered him to kill his son Isaac and then stopped him at the last second. This is why Abraham is the father of us all. He proved his worth and devotion and allegiance to God. He received a great reward to be forever revered by us (all his posterity) and to be on the right hand of God along with his son, Isaac and grandson, Jacob (with the 12 sons who make up the House of Israel.)
The Bible also says that your gold and silver will not save you. Your gold will be taken from you and your silver will be tossed away like a "menstrous cloth." (It really does say that.)
In my opinion, the thing to be saving is pennies, because from what I have read in the Bible, this will be the method of paying for goods. But, who knows for sure if it will be our kind of pennies?
And, as per other posts, I do believe in stocking up on groceries and other goods, etc. And I'm glad that we are a nation who still has possession of our guns.
Marjorie, I too believe we MUST pray to God and Jesus for help and forgiveness too but I do not want to go to those FEMA camps! And I intend to die a free person,too! Why can't we do both???
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Well, I sure don't want to go to the FEMA camps. And I don't want to die, either. I do want to be free and independent and autonomous. Plus I do want to be where Jesus and God are. The Bible tells me how I can do this.
I do feel that Jesus will come in my lifetime as he said, "This generation will not pass until all these things come about." I am a baby-boomer and that is the only generation that stands out in all of the earth's history.
So, I guess the best thing to do is to read the Bible and get real close to Jesus and Heavenly Father. There are experiences I have had (like many others, I'm sure ) which tells me they are very close by. It's a personal thing.
Unfortunately, many will die when in the captivity of this NWO (1/4 of the world's population). But the good news is that some will receive "instant sainthood" and be given a white robe and will be precious to Jesus. Jesus died and then reappeared three days later, alive and well, and in power. That tells us a lot.
I wish you and yours safety and success, but I do not agree with the path you are taking. May God bless you and keep you and your family safe. May you not suffer the fate you have spoken for me and mine. Oh God I pray!
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You have a good heart Marjorie. So sorry about your child.
I may not agree with your understanding of the bible but lets try this : Do we agree that satan will rot in hells fire for what he did to your baby and the rest of humanity ?
I like to think so.....please hope with me !
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Thank you for your kind words. Right at first I was horrified that I didn't see this autism stuff coming and put a stop to it.
But, in a way, it turned into a blessing! He is the sweetest, kindest, most helpful soul I have ever seen.
It's sort of like turning lemons into lemonade. You have to look at the positive side and concentrate on that in order to make it work.
Satan and his clan will all burn in the "lake of fire" forever, and the worms crawling on their dead bodies will never die for all they have done.
The only thing we can do is wait for future events to all happen in order to verify whether my version is accurate or not. But I must warn you, lately for about the last 10 or 12 years, I have been knocking a lot of balls clear out of the field.
If the writer of the article is using the term "African-American" for blacks then shouldn't they be using "European-American" for whites? I mean, if you're going to be PC, it goes both ways. No one ethnic group deserves special treatment over another.
Yeah, but it's GOOD dope!
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Online Journal
Monday July 30, 2007
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That is awsome
Thanks -
Well, at least that explains it. We can't all be THAT lucky.
Yeah, but it's GOOD dope!
have a nice day!
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Immature teen on dope.
KILL THEM! KILL THEM ALL! BLOOD, DEATH, GUTS, BURNED FLESH! HEEE HEEEE HEEE!
FUCK THEIR CORPSES! EAT THEIR ENTRAILS!
ROLL IN THEIR BLOOD AND POOP!
HEEE HEEE HEEE!
DEATH HELL SATAN!
have a nice day!
You're welcome. You think I have any respect for a dipshit that is so willing to announce to the world his willingness to kill them. Yeah, you're one wrapped too tight little puppy there forum firend.
Fuck you, too!
I will kill them.
Shallel | 07.30.07 - 10:15 am |
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You should really try and relax a bit forum friend. No one is asking you to 'kill' anybody. In fact saying something like you did makes me question if your medication is the right dosage? Might want to look into that.
Fox Snooze gets the bad rap, but their propaganda is so obvious, that you can easily determine the truth by taking the opposite of what is said.
They are the lightning rod taking the heat off CNN who are the true Fucking Bastard traitors!
I will kill them.
SELDOM DO I PRINT AN ENTIRE ARTICLE BUT THIS NEEDS PRINTING -- AND READING
http://infowars.net/articles/
jul...07Something.htm
Something happened on 9-11
Sheila Samples
Online Journal
Monday July 30, 2007
Strange how something happens and you're unaware that it "registers" with you. Later, perhaps, something will trigger that buried memory and things begin to fall into place.
Something happened on 9-11.
The day began with CNN's Wolf Blitzer frantically reporting that planes had smashed into Buildings 1 and 2 of the World Trade Center. They stood there, so tall that the smoke billowing from their upper floors could be seen for 20 miles. The scene was shocking, grisly, and the horror was broken only by the further news that a plane had rammed into the Pentagon. Death and destruction everywhere. Happening now -- right before our eyes.
In an amazing "Breaking News" alert, CNN Pentagon reporter Jamie McEntyre shot down Blitzer's "plane hit the Pentagon" report. McEntyre said flatly, "Although it may appear that way, from my close-up inspection, there is NO evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only pieces left are small enough you can pick them up in your hand. There are no pieces lying around that would indicate a plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon."
Whoop! Happening now . . . Quick! Back to Ground Zero . . . Just in time to see WTC 2, then WTC 1, sink eerily into their own footprints -- tons and tons of cement blasting instantly into a fine powder, rolling majestically through the streets like an Iraqi sandstorm. Anyone who had ever seen one -- even one -- controlled demolition knew without a doubt what he had just witnessed.
But no time for that -- yet another plane had rammed into a Pennsylvania field with such force there was just a smoking pit at the site with the debris scattered over an eight-mile area . . .
But wait! Don't ask! Still happening now! We're treated to yet another controlled demolition display when WTC 7, struck by no plane, inexplicably collapsed in exactly the same fashion as the first two buildings.
Within hours, CNN had pinned this four-pronged attack on our "homeland" on Saudi billionaire and former CIA operative Osama Bin Laden, and was parading the photographs of 19 terrorists -- 15 from Saudi Arabia -- non-stop across our TV screens. Never mind that in the ensuing weeks, most of them were found alive and well and minding their own business in various parts of the world. For now, they are vicious killers, four of them wannabe pilots who flunked out of flight school, and conveniently left their flight manuals in their cars at the airport.
Then, according to Blitzer, these amazing Boeing stunt pilots, armed with deadly box cutters, evaded multiple layers of airport security, outsmarted the entire intercept and identification operations of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and destroyed 2,974 innocent human beings.
It wasn't long until McEntyre, his feet back on the ground and marching orders in hand, responded to Blitzer's question about his earlier comments -- "Web sites often take statements out of context, such as the exchange from CNN, in which I, myself appear to be questioning whether a plane really hit the building. In fact, Wolf," McEntyre continued, while rapidly pulling my trigger, "I was answering a question about an eyewitness account that a plane had crashed short of the Pentagon, and I was making the point that, no, not near the Pentagon. The only plane that crashed was at the Pentagon."
That's what happened on 9-11. Throughout the day, Blitzer narrated each step over and over again -- a grisly, staccato date-rape drug seared into our national consciousness . . . unimaginable heartbreak . . . horror like none we've ever seen before . . . devastating grief . . . incredible force of crashing airplanes . . . unbelievable horror . . . people running for their lives in desperation through massive debris . . . Stay tuned -- dramatic new pictures of people being swallowed by the smoke and flames . . . happening now . . .
By the time the sun set, our absentee president concluded his day-long zig-zag dash from one hidey-hole to another, and was back at the helm of this shaken nation whose citizens, thanks in large part to CNN, were in the throes of universal post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). That evening, in his address to a paralyzed world, Bush, leaving no doubt he was answering the call of the Almighty, declared war on the terrorists. That evening, Bush, and those like Dick Cheney who control him, began waging war on the terrified.
With the enthusiastic support of CNN, Bush has relentlessly used the singed flesh of the people slaughtered on 9-11 to justify the monstrous lies that took us into war, and the lies that keep us there. Since that day, he has ruled through signing statements and executive orders, setting himself above the US Constitution, the justice system, the entire government. He IS the law -- the Decider, the Privileged Executive, the Tyrant.
Some say one branch of our corporate mainstream media is neither better nor worse than the other branches. I disagree. Perhaps it's because CNN is the Ministry of Truth's chief operative, panting for war, death, and profit, lying -- "catapaulting Bush's propaganda" -- while portraying itself as "The Most Trusted Name in News." Or maybe it's just when the Mockingbirds come home to roost, they all seem to light on the CNN branch.
CNN is very adept at transmitting fear and lies, fraudulent polls, and false-flag alarms over and over and over again to cover up the crimes, treason and mass murder committed by the Bush administration. Blitzer rigidly controls what is aired -- spun -- on CNN as news in his "Situation Room" in the late afternoon and evening. The rest of the 24-hour cycle is spent in news-team giggling, vacuous coverage of Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, and sex predators on the MySpace website. Did you know that last Wednesday there was an explosion in Dallas, a truck turned over in North Carolina, peanuts can kill you, obesity is contagious, and a cat roaming the halls of a nursing home points out who is next to die?
But this absurd little Machiavellian fool and the servile CNN courtiers who obediently spin his stupid slogans fail to realize that our freedom is not theirs to destroy. Our children are not Bush's, as political philosopher Etienne de la Boetie so eloquently wrote in either 1552 or 1553, "to be led into his battles, to be delivered to butchery, to be made the servants of his greed and the instruments of his vengeance."
Something happened on 9-11 -- something so horrible that the American people acquiesced for a time in their own subjection.
They will not succumb to their own destruction. Enough is enough.
BY
Sheila Samples
Online Journal
Monday July 30, 2007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/
Henry_Bowman
Can't tell in the writing window if the link is lit blue....don't know why didn't highlight the first time.........
Michael D.
Henry Bowman , Is this your real name? WHY did they have to let them go? Orders or what?
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Where have you been??
Michael D. (my real name) has metamorphised...
To Henry Bowman. (And I thought 8 beers was too much for me for 4 hours....)
See here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Bowman
going back to bed.
Xena, the warrior princess.....old show for pervs...do a google search.
Where the heck are you? The south pole? How cum you didn't know that??
This is the best costume I could come up with on short notice doll........
Kells, yer a mess.
Tell the kids I feel honored.
ST, What is xena costume please? Glad your here!
Bin Laden torture
Did you know that the UK New Fabian gov.have a initiated a new dept. at M16? It's called the Terrorist Embroidery Circle for poor traumatised didums.
The fact that Wiki doesn't have a "The information in this article is disputed" warning at the top of the Bin Laden page proves the point of this article. Too bad it wasn't written better.
just lettin people know, been busy here at home, didnt dissappear, still reading forum when I can too. get yer xena costume on kells
Sees Things | 07.29.07 - 11:21 pm |
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I am glad you are still around here ST! Very glad.
kells | 07.30.07 - 12:07 am | #
Me too, hey ST, check these out kinda got in a little pissed off mood about how illegal this whole war really is, it is so beyond comprehension:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=22160#117135
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=22160#117146
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=22160#117150
just lettin people know, been busy here at home, didnt dissappear, still reading forum when I can too. get yer xena costume on kells
Sees Things | 07.29.07 - 11:21 pm |
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I am glad you are still around here ST! Very glad.
Henry,
You would have been so proud .
All 3 kids were shooting targets this morning.
In honor of you and your gun show today.
My 14 year old is a very good shot !
I am ... not so good yet....
just lettin people know, been busy here at home, didnt dissappear, still reading forum when I can too. get yer xena costume on kells
Sees Things | 07.29.07 - 11:21 pm |
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Thanks !
This is the best costume I could come up with on short notice doll;
http://thumbsnap.com/v/yKJp2z5J.jpg
You like ?
: )
I wish you and yours safety and success, but I do not agree with the path you are taking. May God bless you and keep you and your family safe. May you not suffer the fate you have spoken for me and mine. Oh God I pray!
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:01 pm | ````````````
You have a good heart Marjorie. So sorry about your child.
I may not agree with your understanding of the bible but lets try this : Do we agree that satan will rot in hells fire for what he did to your baby and the rest of humanity ?
I like to think so.....please hope with me !
just lettin people know, been busy here at home, didnt dissappear, still reading forum when I can too. get yer xena costume on kells
Michael D.
Henry Bowman , Is this your real name? WHY did they have to let them go? Orders or what?
Henry, Please keep in touch! You realize don't you that Fed's are probably reading every word we type right? F*ck 'em! I hope the treasonous Satan worshipping bastards burn iin hell for all eternity and they will! It's nice to know we are making some head way! Gives me hope alittle anyway! I like the best one is 9-11 What's the truth! Keep in touch OK? I am going to bed, see you at same post OK? I just minumize it at bottom for night is all!
Yes, Truther, I know the zionist side. Met a state trooper that was in NY on 9-11. he was in the station when they arrested those 5 lackeys from Mossad and had to let them go.
This is like a multifaceted gem, there are many groups that had a hand in it. Qiut beating us up wih just the Zionist face of it. Luv ya anyway.....at least you've calmed down and stopped yelling.
Going to bed. Long day. need to find a turbine to work on, so Ill be up early beating the phone.
Michael D.
Henry Bowman, Must have been a gun show nationwide? We had one here too! Did cops seem to agree it was an inside job too? You do know Israel helped do 9-11 right? Israel has ADMITTED letting Richard Reid board that plane!
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Everyone in the world-including israel knows that israel was in on it. We knew on 9/12/2001.
Do you have any new information?
Henry, Go to http://www.patriotamerica.com/Ja...cLamb/
index.htm and get them to go there too or download info or send for pathlets on it OK? Operation Vampire killer 2000! I pray we turn around cops and military for sure and ALL! We MUST! Do you believe there is foreign troops already on U.S. soil? I have heard there is! I went to gun shop today and 5 people were in there and I told them all to stock up on all survival gear and also told couple about FEMA camps complete with gas chambers and this lady asked me "here in America"? I said YES, here in America! I don't know who I am more pissed off at Henry, treaonous mass murdering Bush and cohorts or fucking MSM and even "left gatekeeper's" for keepng ALL this treasonous shit from sheeple for all damn long, even before JFK was murdered by Bush Sr. and Arlen Spector helped cover it up and others in our OWN gov't including CIA and LBJ too! Right then and there gutless, splineless Americans should have revolted til they got the truth about who murdered JFK! I was just a kid or about 13 when it happened or I damn sure would have rose up and demanding some answers or revolted! We damn sure SHOULD have had a 2nd American revolution LONG before NOW BIG TIME! A long time ago!
Henry Bowman, Must have been a gun show nationwide? We had one here too! Did cops seem to agree it was an inside job too? You do know Israel helped do 9-11 right? Israel has ADMITTED letting Richard Reid board that plane!
My Grandfather is one of the wisest men I've ever met. He knows. My half brother is an ignorant pot head that owes me money, I don't think he knows anything well except whores and dope.
dvds today were 9-11 mysteries, Loose Change, Terrorstorm on one disc, Free channel 9-11 with 68 video files, 8 hours long, and 9-11 Ripple Effect, a new one, shows photos of missile pods on military craft that erely match the size and shape of extra equipment on planes hitting the Twin towers..........Maybe 40 given out. Woulda been more but just found out about the show late last night.
The cops at this show were intelligent and good men. Same as last show, same place. They acted as if they enjoyed it as much as I.
Never saw so many beautiful old guns in one place before. Several collections, of 50 or so, Garands, colt .45's, you name it. Doubles and on and on........
"Unintended Consequences"
I saw 3 copies at one book dealer today.
I thought of you.
I bought $140 in books, just on the AR-15, today. Never owned one before today, now I own 2 of the best. Within one week, I will know 95% of all knowledge on the Ar-15.
Within 1 week, I will be more proficient than 95 % of all military that use the AR-15. I will not tolerate this Tyranny. will you?
I didn't go to a lake today or yesterday, didn't do the bar thing
Friday or Saturday.
Talk is cheap, I'll stop by FEMA and see how you're doing (remember "Red Dawn"?)
What are you going to do this week to get ready for what is to come? I gave out 50 dvds at the gun show today, including 3 police officers.....(bronze balls I've got)
You'll know better in the morning, after my words are absorbed by your subconcious.
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I was thinking of you.
All of you.
Henry, Does your family believe you or do they think your nuts? How was the reception today with cops? How was reception with others? PLease Henry ikeep in touch OK? If you like email me OK? Sue4986@aol.com but my mailbox is full most days! In case we don't met up on this website some where that is my email!
Henry, "Unintended Consequences"
I saw 3 copies at one book dealer today.
I thought of you.
Please post who you mean by YOU when you say that OK? I HAVE been given out DVD's too! Along time now! Do you need some for NAU too? We MUST,MUST also educate people on that especially! And fast! Congress is supposed to vote on it by end of summer! And MOST sheeple have NOT even heard of it! Henry, we MUST become the media, you know this right? And go to website http://www.patriotamerica.com/Ja...cLamb/
index.htm This is Police and Military against NWO! They have pamlets to pass out to cops and military too! I am doing all I can! Wished lazy, gutless, apathical UNPATRIOTIC SHEEPLE WOULD NOT ONLY WAKE UP BUT SPREAD WORD AND FIGHT BACK AND NOW! IF we lose America and our freedom'si it will be THEIR fault for not being patriotic and getting up of their dead lazy f*cking asses and stop being soo damn guillilbe and naive and IN DENIAL!
Henry Bowman, What DVD's did you give out? About 9-11 or NAU or what? I too gave out DVD's today too! And have for along time now! What pisses me off about damn near ALL DVD"S about 9-11 is majority do not add in there about 5 dancing Israeli's or like! And STILL wrongly lay blame for highjackings at "Arabs" and not Mossad agents! But yes, I did give out DVD's today and have and talked with people at gun shop too and they all believe me now too! We MUST convince all cops and military of truth! And fast! Some already know! Go to P&MANWO website! Moderator YOU never posted this the first time!
"Unintended Consequences"
I saw 3 copies at one book dealer today.
I thought of you.
I bought $140 in books, just on the AR-15, today. Never owned one before today, now I own 2 of the best. Within one week, I will know 95% of all knowledge on the Ar-15.
Within 1 week, I will be more proficient than 95 % of all military that use the AR-15. I will not tolerate this Tyranny. will you?
I didn't go to a lake today or yesterday, didn't do the bar thing
Friday or Saturday.
Talk is cheap, I'll stop by FEMA and see how you're doing (remember "Red Dawn"?)
What are you going to do this week to get ready for what is to come? I gave out 50 dvds at the gun show today, including 3 police officers.....(bronze balls I've got)
You'll know better in the morning, after my words are absorbed by your subconcious.
Just ask to re-investigate how aluminum jets can slice through steel ? The truth is it can't be done ! Try it in a machine shop, it can't be done ! Do a re-enactment; it can't be done !
In over 5,000 years they have not built a weapon to defeat it.
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Thank you Sane. A clear mind in a muddle of midgets.
This is one reason I have tried so much to get you all to read "Unintended Consequences"
It has many heroic stories, the greatest of which (I feel) is the story of Warsaw, turned into a mass prison camp by the Nazis, ONE MAN took one pistol from one Naz (with a club), then the jews, as a group, studied this weapon. they took it, used it to take another pistol and a rifle.
They then studied these, as a group.
They used these 2 pistols and one rifle to further their inventory........and take over the whole city.
If you do not know history, you will repeat it.
I willl not stand for this tyranny, for I KNOW HISTORY.
Thnk about that and keep your mouths closed for the rest of the evening, all you Marjories out there.
Give me your thoughts in the morning, after you speak with the Lord. When you do, keep your mouth shut then too.
Wait, there's more! I saw how the CEO of Wikipedia grilled the whistle blowers on the construction fraud at the Bhagdad Embassy. He tried to smear the contractor by saying he was drunk at his job. What a Cronie!
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Where????
Wait, there's more! I saw how the CEO of Wikipedia grilled the whistle blowers on the construction fraud at the Bhagdad Embassy. He tried to smear the contractor by saying he was drunk at his job. What a Cronie!
I repeat! Their weapons are far superior to yours (even if we have a whole division and everybody has tons of bullets).
Marjorie, I pity you.
the Russians could not control Afghanistan, we are far advanced over them and have much greater numbers and clearly finer, more modern firepower than the Afghanies had.
Faith is wonderful, but you my dear are a fool.
You better look again in our Book, the only way evil has EVER been suppressed in ALL of recorded history.
Fight violence with GREATER violence.
This is the only thing they understand, and the only force that will prevail.
God bless these patriots.
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07 - 9:13 pm | #
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We are 300 Million, they are 100,000 tops!
Every weapon they build can be used against them.
What do you think would happen if LRAD's were everywhere. As of now every cruise ship in the world has at least 3. A generator and an LRAD could do a little damage.
But more importantly we have a weapon they will never have:
We have the indestructible weapon of the human spirit.
In over 5,000 years they have not built a weapon to defeat it.
I repeat! Their weapons are far superior to yours (even if we have a whole division and everybody has tons of bullets).
Marjorie, I pity you.
the Russians could not control Afghanistan, we are far advanced over them and have much greater numbers and clearly finer, more modern firepower than the Afghanies had.
Faith is wonderful, but you my dear are a fool.
You better look again in our Book, the only way evil has EVER been suppressed in ALL of recorded history.
Fight violence with GREATER violence.
This is the only thing they understand, and the only force that will prevail.
God bless these patriots.
911 frauder, this should keep ya busy for awhile:
Here is a five minute teaser of Ring of Power:
http://www.veoh.com/videos/
v8205...v820510ea8cQyMJ
Does Rome Still Rule Part 1
http://video.google.com/
videopla...834925200441495
Does Rome Still Rule Part 2
http://video.google.com/
videopla...076800390535825
Zeitgeist:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...481422995115331
Ghandhi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h?
v=jnByy_r2ZKk
John Lennon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h?v=I-
NRriHlLUk
http://video.google.com/
videopla...046699234389996
JFK:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...662559138481080
http://www.infowars.com/
articles...iety_speech.htm
MLK on Vietnam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h?v=b80Bsw0UG-
U
Malcolm X on Ballots v. Bullets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...h?
v=CRNciryImqg
The Papers of Thomas Jefferson:
http://www.princeton.edu/~tjpapers/
And the video that first opened my eyes to how clear and present this danger of NWO is [care of ak48]:
George Hunt:UN UNCED Earth Summit 1992
http://video.google.com/
videopla...758020554799808
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Marjorie, I too believe we MUST pray to God and Jesus for help and forgiveness too but I do not want to go to those FEMA camps! And I intend to die a free person,too! Why can't we do both???
During his time as head of the EPA (after he resigned as governor) he instated the testing of pesticides on little minority children, to take effect 6 months after he left the EPA and became the head of the powerful Health and Human Services. We need to be watching him and reporting on him as he is joined closely to the false prophet!
That's what I am walking about by saying "fight them."
Marjorie Kidman
Marjorie, You can DO both! Stock up on guns and ammo and also keep an eye on this guy too! What we ALL have to do is No.1 spread the word about truth about 9-11 and fast and also tell people Marshall Law is coming and also tell people how damn bad NAU is too! And urge ALL to stock up on silver coins too so when they collapse our dollar on purpose, pure evil Zionist Rothchild, it will NOT hurt us that badly! IF we can not stop them! We MUST try to STOP ALL of this first and spread word but at same time, stock up on all stuff too! Marjorie, WHY can't you do both about watching that guy? It is said Anti-Christ is Price Charles as his name equals 666 in all 3 languages! I don't know if that is true or not! And your right on about praying too but we must not just pray for help either! Didn't God say I help those that help themselves? They might have bigger guns BUT who will man them if we convince people of what is truth? Unless they use foreign troops?
AMEN, but we MUST ask for God's help also in fighting these pure evil bastards TOO!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:27 pm | #
sane, You never answered me,do you believe in God?
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:24 pm | #
who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:36 pm | #
Who's interpretation of who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:37 pm | #
who's translation of who's interpretation of who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:38 pm | #
who's evangelizing of who's translation of who's interpretation of who's god?
AMEN, but we MUST ask for God's help also in fighting these pure evil bastards TOO!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:27 pm | #
sane, You never answered me,do you believe in God?
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:24 pm | #
who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:36 pm | #
Who's interpretation of who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:37 pm | #
who's translation of who's interpretation of who's god?
AMEN, but we MUST ask for God's help also in fighting these pure evil bastards TOO!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:27 pm | #
sane, You never answered me,do you believe in God?
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:24 pm | #
who's god?
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:36 pm | #
Who's interpretation of who's god?
AMEN, but we MUST ask for God's help also in fighting these pure evil bastards TOO!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:27 pm | #
sane, You never answered me,do you believe in God?
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 8:24 pm | #
who's god?
Marjorie, And how are you going to protect your family? I DO believe we MUST pray but not prayer alone! Do you know what I have heard they have planned for us Christian's? Do you? Putting us up on telephone phones and cruxifing us like Jesus til we renounce God and Jesus! Remember what Bible says! We will NOT be able to buy or sell ANYTHING WITHOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST! IF I were you I would start stocking up on ALL survival gear and NOW! Including guns and ammo too! They will drag you kicking and screaming to one of their 800 FEMA camps, to rape and torture you! Yes, they have more guns then we do, and bigger but IF and this is BIG IF,we can really try to become media and WAKE the fucking sheeple up including cops and military (some of whom are in bed with them,too) we stand a better chance! And there ARE some cops and military on our side in this fight,too! Just not enough yet! Margie, your a fool NOT to try and protect your family!
As for me and my house, we will send as many of these satanists to hell as we can, as fast as we can..........
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07 - 7:45 pm
AMEN, but we MUST ask for God's help also in fighting these pure evil bastards TOO!
sane, You never answered me,do you believe in God?
I think I rather follow Henry's advice.
More and more my eyes are open to the real reason for the second amendment, it was not put there by accident.
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 8:03 pm |
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The 2nd amendment is great and it is what is keeping us safe for the time being. But I believe this present tac that you are both taking will certainly place your families in jeopardy and may bring about what you fear.
I repeat! Their weapons are far superior to yours (even if we have a whole division and everybody has tons of bullets).
There will be a "no contest." Then how will you protect your families, being incompacitated or dead? Then what will happen to your familes? Think it through.
Verbally fight, with no weapons right Marjorie??
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Henry, you are funny. You make me laugh!
Well, those who have used "weapons" will probably be long gone.
No, sorry, Marjorie, you are funny.
Like I've told you before, you and your children will be raped and pillaged.
I feel sorrow for you and yours.
As for me and my house, we will send as many of these satanists to hell as we can, as fast as we can..........
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07 - 7:45 pm | #
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Marjorie when the shit hits the fan, you can sit in a corner and pray as all the pious jews did in nazi germany, or the jesus loving christians did for 605 years during the Inquisition.
I think I rather follow Henry's advice.
More and more my eyes are open to the real reason for the second amendment, it was not put there by accident.
Like I've told you before, you and your children will be raped and pillaged.
I feel sorrow for you and yours.
As for me and my house, we will send as many of these satanists to hell as we can, as fast as we can..........
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07 - 7:45 pm | #
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Don't be so sure, Henry Bowman. All my cards are not on the table. And I closely adhere to the admonitions in the Bible which puts me in the safest place possible.
I wish you and yours safety and success, but I do not agree with the path you are taking. May God bless you and keep you and your family safe. May you not suffer the fate you have spoken for me and mine. Oh God I pray!
Verbally fight, with no weapons right Marjorie??
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07
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Henry, you are funny. You make me laugh!
Well, those who have used "weapons" will probably be long gone.
No, sorry, Marjorie, you are funny.
Like I've told you before, you and your children will be raped and pillaged.
I feel sorrow for you and yours.
As for me and my house, we will send as many of these satanists to hell as we can, as fast as we can..........
Flight 93 was shot down.
9/11 was an inside job. I think.
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Yeah, I agree, I think.
I'd also bet that all planes were remotely controlled and had missile pods........I've not seen nor heard of ANY bodies, luggage, or other remains of a real commercial flight, even at shanksville (12,000 pound jet engines??). i think this one was going to the White House and some commander pissed in their Weaties by ordering it shot down........
Still, no bodies or luggage.......
Verbally fight, with no weapons right Marjorie??
Henry Bowman | 07.29.07
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Henry, you are funny. You make me laugh!
Well, those who have used "weapons" will probably be long gone.
Be fight, I think it means to expose them, to watch them, to speak out against them, to have our hands in their throat as much as we can (just like we are now doing), to refuse to be a part of them or go along with them.
When "Mormon Utah Governor" Michael Leavitt was chairman of the National Governors Association (NGA) in about 1999, he kept talking about the "new economy" and said in at least three speeches (WTTE/words to the effect), "Those who go along with us will do okay. Those who embrace us will prosper. But those who oppose us are going to die."
During his time as head of the EPA (after he resigned as governor) he instated the testing of pesticides on little minority children, to take effect 6 months after he left the EPA and became the head of the powerful Health and Human Services. We need to be watching him and reporting on him as he is joined closely to the false prophet!
That's what I am walking about by saying "fight them."
sane, Fuck off! The only frauder here and disinformant here is YOU!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:23 pm | #
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Hey, Truther, quit already, ok, you are quickly making YOURSELF very unwelcome..........
Who is this fucking idiot?
Our what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...U8c7ZoDAI&
NR=1#
Bush DRUNK.........
THIS IS THE SAME GUY *HE IS AN ADMIN* WHO BANNED MY NAME WITHIN 5 MINUTES OF EDITING MORTON DEVONSHIRE'S PAGE. THIS GUY IS A FIRST RATE PUNK B&^&^ AND SHOULD BE TAUGHT A LESSON ABOUT PATRIOTISM - AS ALL OF THEM SHOULD.
I hope I look like that warrior princess person.
kells | 07.29.07 - 4:11 pm | #
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Carrying an AR-15 and a Glock..........
Hope I didnt' confuse you as this was pretty long and lengthy. So if we take the right path, there will be wonderful rewards, especially to us who fight against the NWO.
And that is how I interpret what it says in the Bible. And I feel it is fairly accurate.
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 6:46 pm | #
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Verbally fight, with no weapons right Marjorie??
When I try to access PP this is the message I get:
You are not authorized to view this page
You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied.
WTF ? This has never happened before.
kells | 07.29.07 - 1:50 am | #
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I got a feeling this is new protocol that is coming soon.....you can get it if you're NSA,CIA,FBI, NEOCON SHILL...........coming soon to a computer near you.........
31/2 years into the 7 years of tribulation Jesus comes in air , unseen , and the graves open and the ones who died in Christ rise up out of the graves and the living in Christ are caught away with them and we are all together with Jesus.
for the next 31/2 years all hell breaks loose on earth. That is my understanding. Then we return WITH Jesus invisible or what I don't know but we will have new bodies.
I hope I look like that warrior princess person.
kells | 07.29.07 - 4:11 pm | #
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Well, something like that. The way I understand it, we will be under the control of the "beast" until the "dividing of times," which is right there between the "daily sacrifice (or time of cleansing)" and the "abomination that maketh desolate" ( totaling 2300 days all together as per Daniel 8 v.13).
It is up to us as to whether we stay under this "beastly" control by the "choices" we have made and will make. That's why we need to pray and get to know Jesus and be in his good graces; for he has wonderful things instore for those who love him and want to be with him.
The Bible says to "pray that you will be found worthy to escape all these things and stand on the sea of glass."
The sea of glass will be the Holy City made of Jasper and all kinds of jewels, with its streets of pure gold which will look like glass) which will (at about that time) come down out of Heaven and be placed on a hill in the "top of the mountains." It will be a little over a mile square (each side--height, breadth, and length the same) and will probably reach up into the clouds.
Rev.15 v.2 (plus other places) says: "And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire; and them that had gotten the victory over the beast and over his image and over his mark and over the number of his name stand on the sea of glass having the harps of God."
So, a great many followers of Jesus will come to the "top of the mountains" via a "holy highway" (which will be laid out for them wherein no evil people will be allowed), and they will have a "plant of renown" to feed on along the way.
The outcasts of Israel (who are of the House of Judah and also of David) and others will also be gathered and brought there, also.
We will stand outside on a "sea of glass" or a platform (??) of solid gold outside of the temple.
Rev. 15 v.8: "And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple till the seven plages of the seven angels were fulfilled."
Ch. 16: "And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth."
Then, after that we will all be "caught up into the clouds" and probably be on the top of the mile-high holy city and unite with Jesus, and it will be very spiritual (which I can't even imagine how wonderful it will be).
People will continue to come on this holy highway from all over the world and will be comforted, and their needs will be taken care of when they arrive. Many will be sick as a result of pollutions, vaccinations, poisonous and GM foods, etc. And as per Revelation 22v.2, there will be a "tree of life" on each side of a river with 12 kinds of fruits (one for each month) for the healing of the nations.
The tents of Judah will be saved first (Zechariah 12 v.7), who are Jesus' goodly horse of battle (as in Zechariah 10 v.3) who are those outcasts (like you and I who are of the House of Judah and didn't even know it) who are awake and have fought hard and refused (no matter what it takes) to join the beast and take his mark or to "bear the shame of heathen" who are joined to the beast.
Three or four fasts will be dedicated to the House of Judah for all their bravery and refusal to succomb to the dictates of the NWO. (Many wil lbe found and gather from caves, out in the desert [where streams of water will start magically flow forth], or wherever else they can find to hide. And when the time is right, they [the House of Judah which includes the House of David] will be gathered and be rewarded with life everlasting where they will not see death, but will live with Jesus for 1000 years.) The others will live to be a 100 or so years old and will be able to bear children late into their old age.
Zephaniah 3, v.17: "The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing."
And Jesus says, "Whatsoever you ask the Father in my name, he will give it to you." For our Heavenly Father and Jesus are the "temple" in the New Holy Jerusalem, and Jesus will show our Heavenly Father to us.
Then the "door will be shut" and there will be a high wall (about 70') all around the city. Beyond that will be all the war mongers and other evil people wondering around or passing by until the "abomination of desolation" time is finished. Then those who have survived and haven't taken the "mark of the beast" will be allowed to come in and have a part in the great blessings in store for those who are within. Each house of the 12 houses of Israel will be given plots all around the "holy City" according to which house they belong.
And the "House of Jacob," who are decendants of the House of Joseph (who are certain selected Indians of the Americas) will also have their portion there, too as per God's promise to their ancestral father, "Jacob" (not the Jacob who is the father of the 12 tribes of Israel, but the Jacob who is a decendant of that Jacob.) And it will all be marvelous in our eyes!
Hope I didnt' confuse you as this was pretty long and lengthy. So if we take the right path, there will be wonderful rewards, especially to us who fight against the NWO.
And that is how I interpret what it says in the Bible. And I feel it is fairly accurate.
Here is what it is like when you approach someone with a copy of "Loose Change".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...?v=u...related&
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OOps, long day at the gun show........forgot to paste GAK's thing about the Matrix.......
how I explain to people about knowing the truth about 9-11 and our gubmint.........
I have actually explained it just this way to many people that I give 9-11 Mysteries, Loose Change and Terrorstorm to, on one disc........
You guys missed a helluva good gun show today....At airport north of Kansas City. Biggest I've been to in years.
picked up 2 AR's and got a line on 2 Glocks and a couple smith .44's for good money.......
Fools are still taking worthless green paper for firearms!!!
Be aware, there is new legislation limiting how much powder/primers/bullets, I think, on the horizon......stock up now or forever hold your peace....almost no-one had reload supplies at this or last 3 shows because of stiff fines for transporting without propper expensive permits...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...7shotsfired.htm
Thank God the Brown's are OK! They should be flying their flag upside down though because our nation is under distress BIG TIME!
sane, Praying on your part sane might help too! That is if you believe in God!?
Ladies, I think we just had church....
kells
Your both soo very right on! May God help us and Jesus too defeat these pure evil Satan worshipping bastards and save not only America but world too from them! We sooo very desperately need a worldwide revolution and NOW before they pull something else, like nuking our own people, which I totally believe they are planniing too but I pray NOT! We MUST, absolutely MUST convince our military and troops and cops to be on our side! It's imparitive the understand what the F*ck is really going on and NOW! The pure evil bastard's want us killing each other and fighting each other rather then them! And don't be fooled by Hellary, Obama, Ghouliani, Biden, or rest, they are ALL, ALL in bed with Bush only just acting slightly different for the grand dog and pony show to make us peons think we have a real choice when in reality THEIR ALL NWO puppet's and members! Any of them that say they will "protect' Israel, YOU KNOW fucking well what they mean! That means they put pure evil Israel/Zionist agenda above America and our people and are following Protocals of Elder's Zion, i.e. Satan's bible! Jewish people in Israel needs to revolt too and NOW! I heard an excellent comment the other day, and I totally believe it is true, pure evil Israeli leader's use non-existance threat "anti-semtic" fear and continous wars to keep their citizen's in line to keep them from revolting too and keep them from overthrowing their own corrupt as hell leadership too! And if that doesn't do it,Zionists have been known before to murder Jews to make them hate Palenstian's and other Arab's too to start them fighting! It's their MO! They purposedly murderer Jews to start wars or conflicts with other Arab's or dress up as Arab's and kill Jews too! If I were Jewish and lived either in America or Israel, I would be raising so much hell over Zionists, and leadership, too right now! Just like I am raising hell over our mass murdering treasonous bastard illegal stold election Satan worshipping bastard who stold the W.House twice and his cohorts in Congress from BOTH parties too!
Ladies, I think we just had church....
kells | 07.29.07 - 5:08 pm | #
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Great now can we go to Pancake House?
that was a good one.
>> Crooks and Liars Update...
When I tried to repost the following:
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specter=bush=lieberman=clinton=obama=pelosi
AEI=Skull and Bones=CFR=Bilderberg
All want to destroy the sovereignty of the USA as they throw this country deeper into bankruptcy by killimg millions of innocents abroad.
Ony Kucinich/Paul/Gravel are true Americans the rest get jet setted around the world in favor af an elitest world society where all of us get screwed.
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They stripped it before even reviewing.
hahahahahaha
oh yeah I also posted the following link:
http://100777.com/myron
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Way to go faux liberals who are just ensuring a speedy road to totalitarianism-they kept the Hilary outing, guess as long as you mention only one culprit you are safe. Once you start saying they are all equal....freedom of speech no longer exists.
| We need to pray for help from God and Jesus! Big Time! To help fight Satan and his worshipper's!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 3:46 pm |
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Very true words-- well spoken! We're in for the fight of our lives alright!
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 4:28 pm |`````
Ladies, I think we just had church....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ana...against_Fascism
Anarchism is the way we need to strive towards, free-association confederation
We need to pray for help from God and Jesus! Big Time! To help fight Satan and his worshipper's!
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Very true words-- well spoken! We're in for the fight of our lives alright!
31/2 years into the 7 years of tribulation Jesus comes in air , unseen , and the graves open and the ones who died in Christ rise up out of the graves and the living in Christ are caught away with them and we are all together with Jesus.
for the next 31/2 years all hell breaks loose on earth. That is my understanding. Then we return WITH Jesus invisible or what I don't know but we will have new bodies.
I hope I look like that warrior princess person.
Saints are not perfect 911 truther. They just mean well. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. But the road to heaven is too.
Here is how us truthers are perceived by the rest of society..........
10 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h?
v=4UIO2dAGjgE
trial of the faith of the saints. GAK, but I am not a saint! On a different note, does anyone know how Ed Brown is doing?
3 911 victims family members carefully examine the "contents" of the 911 commission report.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h?
v=Ug75diEyiA0
Daniel, the gospels, and Revelation clearly define the persecution and trial of the faith of the saints.
Gabriel Alan King
That is news to me? I thought from what I have been told, which I need to read Bible but I have been told that God will remove his faithful so they will NOT have to go through this, and take them up to rapture is this not so?
GAK, I disagree with you in part! I think Hellary and Obama supporter's want to sooo desperally believe they are different from Bush,etc. that they over look their TRUE stand is NOT much different the mass murderer Bush's! To hear Hellary say she is a Progressive, she is TOTALLY FUCKING FULL OF SHIT! When does she think she is "progressive"? One week before election? Hell her and Bill go on vacation together with Bush Sr. and Jr. for goodness sakes! They ONLY act like they don't get along like rest of NWO player's who try to put on a dog and pony show for us peons! To make us think there is a difference so we don't rise up AND REVOLT! WHICH WE GODDAMN SURE NEED TO AND THE SOONER THE BETTER! We should have ALL had a 2nd American revolution LONG before now, when they murdered JFK! Lazy, Unpatriotic, apathical, f*cking gullible American sheeple are lettiing these treasnous mass murdering Satan worshipping NWO scum destroy America and our freedom's without so much as one shot being fired! IT'S TREASONOUS ON PART OF AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE ALLOWED THIS TREASON TO GO ON THIS LONG! We all should be RIOTING in the streets by now, LONG before now!
911 truther. I totally agree. Don't cross your fingers for a rapture though. Daniel, the gospels, and Revelation clearly define the persecution and trial of the faith of the saints.
Has anyone seen the new HP commercial ? The guy with the tin foil hat talking about children performing mind control on their parents ? ( to get them to buy them a new HP computer ) ?
I cannot believe this. He is seated behind a presidential desk with the flag next to him and a seal behind him.
I agree with you about the "matrix" thing. All I am saying is that both Hillary and Obama are full of shit, and they are contracting for the New World Order. And their supporters are scum. Cause there is so much truth available right now, I am not giving ANYONE an excuse anymore for not knowing it.
GAK, Hellary and Obama, Biden and rest are ALL part of NWO too! Hell, Biden even wrote a book called "How I learned to love the NWO" The ONLY 3 out of whole damn Prez race that I think MAY, key word here MAY not be NWO is Gravel, Kucinich and Paul! All one's who puts America first not Israel or AIPAC or any other nation either for that matter! But we are NOT going to have to worry about voting anyway, because before long there WILL be another false flag attack only this time using nukes, thanks to help from Israeli Mossad again and orginal cast of mass murderer's, Bush WILL declare Marshall Law and he and pure evil cohorts will bomb needlessly, innocent men,women and kids in large part for fellow Zionist Satan worshipper's in Israel leadership, which will make people hate the decent Jews, which is WHY Jews should be against Zionism and alot are, and to start WW3 to bring about the Anti-Christ and then force people into those 800 FEMA camps or take "Mark of Beast" or die! And somewhere in between this, pure evil, supposedly talks with Satan himself, Zionist Rothchild will purposedly collapse our dollar and force us onto
"amero" and into NAU and SPP to the final destruction of America and our precious freedom's too! And somewhere between there after nuking needlessly Iran we will have WW3 and he/they will set off the destruction the like's we have never seen and use ethic bombing to wipe out Chinese to leave their population down to 500,000. And maybe he will use chemical weapons on our own people too, I would NOT put ANY FUCKING PURE EVIL TREASONOUS MASS MURDERING SHIT PAST THEM! Remember he and his equally treasonous mass murdering father will be MOVING to Paragay after the MF'ers totally destroy America and world and even with military security provided by us taxpayer's too! I just pray there is a rapture and God calls me home before the shit hits the fan! We need to pray for help from God and Jesus! Big Time! To help fight Satan and his worshipper's!
Sane. Obama is a stooge, and so is Hillary, and most of their supporters know this, because they are stooges too. The so called "ignorance" of these people is deliberate, and premeditated. It's not really all that complex. They are the "FUCKERS", and we are the good guys.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.29.07 - 3:39 pm | #
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GAK 250-299 million citizens are stooges and under mind control, just like the millions of germans, BUT IT IS NOT FREE WILL AND IT IS NOT DELIBERATELY DONE BY THEM.
If the Germans knew what 1942 Germany would look like, do you think they would have packed the commie, jews, and gays into the trains?
If the citizens in Dresden knew what was comming do you think they would have supported Hitler.
It is our job to dismantal the matrix that keeps the mind control programming, how can you not see that as a signifance piece of the NWO puzzle?
We need to show that the divisions are created by them and that they are BS.
I cannot understand your logic, but I am glad that you are now obviously back at your computer.
The government of Israel, is manipulated and controlled the same way that the rest of the governments of the world are, including America. The commoners of Israel are not to blame, same as the commoners of all countries.
Sane. Obama is a stooge, and so is Hillary, and most of their supporters know this, because they are stooges too. The so called "ignorance" of these people is deliberate, and premeditated. It's not really all that complex. They are the "FUCKERS", and we are the good guys.
THIS SAYS IT ALL! SOO VERY TRUE! With "allies" like Israel WHO the HELL needs ENEMIES?? Israel is NOT a "good ally" fact! This is soo very true!
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Israel will catch theirs you can be sure of that. The Bible says that half of them (that's a lot!) will be taken out before Jesus touches down on the Mount of Olives.
There are many people there who do not even have one drop of Israelite blood in them even though they claim they are of the House of Israel. And like America, the evil leadership has taken complete control.
Plus, Zechariah 14 v.12 says: "And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem. Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth."
I think the Bible pretty well tells it like will be. I sure don't want to have any part of incurring that kind of condemnation.
Like America, Israel still has a lot of good people left. And the last I heard, they are not even allowed to have a seat in the UN, where even Cuba has a place. Talk about discrimination!
Many nations will come and fight against Israel. The only thing that is stopping them is America's intervention...
I do not know if I am Jewish or not. According to my family, I am English, German, a little Scottish, and American Indian. I am also a direct descendant of Isaac Newton. The Caucuses mountains are north of Israel, thus "Caucasians". We might all have a little "Jew" in us.
Beauty is only skin deep.
Fuck Obama and Hillary. I'll cleave those bitches melons in twain with a bastard sword.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.29.07 - 3:25 pm | #
C'mon GAK...the Clinton disinfo people are on too low a level to knoiw that Clinton/Obama work together.
In the meantime, Obama supporters are now going to rightly so question the validity of C&L
then C&L will try to show the support Obama...
this will start pissing off the edwards guys [again too low a level to know they work for the same team]..
until everyone realized that they have been set up to no longer look for truth but that they are being led as to what to believe.
Once they realize this...the matrix is demolished.
just stay 2 steps ahead so that the wizards are forced to change positions on the grand chessboard.
this will confuse the masses so much because they are being forced to take change sides too quickly.
911 truther. If commoners and "couch TV idiots" like you and me can figure out the truth, just imagine what politicians know. Of course parliment was involved! No one gets up the ladder unless they "play ball". Tony Blair is a high ranking Mason and an Illuminist. He even stated that he "channels the light".
WTC WTF? Arabs w/box cutters my ass.
If I lied everyday, I would get drunk too. Here is a good speech from Bush, drunk. If he ain't drunk, then tell me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h?
v=eGU8c7ZoDAI
Gabriel Alan King, Thanks GAK! Are you Jewish? It doesn't matter, but in sane's case he is ungrateful as hell! You said earlier that Parliment was involved too, how so please? And Queen? I have heard MI5 or MI6 were also involved but don't know how? I DO believe they all were involved in 7/7 too though as well as company ICTS too!
Fuck Obama and Hillary. I'll cleave those bitches melons in twain with a bastard sword.
911 is the most obvious and blatant slap in the face to date.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h?
v=Wj5SZb2R2Oc
Guys, just outed Crooks and Liars as a Hillary Clinton site after they kept fucking with my comments .
It was so funny because I just kept posting under the name martial law:
Specter=Bush
then
Specter=Bush=Lieberman
then
Specter=Lieberman=Clinton
then whamo - off topic
so I posted this [which will soon disappear]:
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[Deleted. Your comments are removed not because you are exposing some grand conspiracy, they are removed because they are off topic. Do you have anything to add to the discussion that is actually close to the topic? — Sitemonitor]
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sitemonitor—YES!!!
You are a Clinton Agent, everyone check out the 25 articles about Hilary availabler on this site….notice anything???
notice how Obama gets bashed if he dares talk not nice about Hillary the Queen
Guess we won’t find any Vince Foster murder articles or Waco evidence tampering here will we.
the crybaby comment gave me the hint.
An obama supporter would neversay such a thing.
And don’t bother sending Larry Potts over to “rub me out” We already know all about him and ISI.
Have a nice day
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I still like you 911 truther. Here is how the New World Order is making me feel...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...related&
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And I will NOT be forced to take the "Mark of Beast" either without a fucking huge fight!
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The second you take the "mark of the beast", you belong to them forever. You are like a cow being branded. I just pray I never get put in that position. I will do all that I can to stay out of their control.
Let me tell you something that I have come to believe -- speaking of flight 93:
Not that I have any PROOF of this, nothing more than the otherwise 'circumstancial evidence' I've gathered, but it all sure in the heck seems to lend itself heavy in the direction of proof --
Where does one draw the line on proof and say, 'okay, no murder weapon, but the (1000 and 1) other things sure in the heck make it look like a murder happened' -- when does common sense take over and leave behind all the demands for 100-percent bonafide PROOF before we start believeing what we have? Was that too long a question? Maybe my point was lost, sorry if so.
Let me say this about that -- on September 11th, WE KNOW (by means beyond Minetta's testimony, the same that was omitted from the infamous Commission's report) that Cheney was aware of our land being attacked. And many of us have come to believe (enough proof as it is/common sense logic) that he was most likely involved in not so much being in a bunker but by his actions had something (??) to do with setting events in motion that day. His behavior afterwards adds even more to this belief.
Are any of you aware (you're about to be) that there was plenty of 'hero' types onboard flight 93 that day. I won't mention everyone, just a couple:
-- One of the flight assistants was a former Florida Police Officer (not sure what that really means as far as bringing important credentials into play -- but it suggest that being a police officer they were trained in survival skills (to some degree, they had to be), that's just the way it is -- not the Barney Fife character we might think, but someone capable of really handling themself, most likely); another was a judo expert (an expert, a champion, not a sometimes watch Bruce Lee Kung Fu kind of expert, but a real life EXPERT in a known effective form of self-defense); another was a bonafide pilot.
That last one is the one that brings me to tell you all of this -- a pilot. Not THE pilot of flight 93, but a pilot on board as a passenger kind of pilot.
When those folks got their head together and saw what they were up against (the most likely scenario) they decided to try and do something. Safey in numbers, that's the way it usually is. There was more of us than there was them -- that's for sure -- even as low passenger count as there was on each of the airplanes that we've been told about -- the numbers were in our favor. There is some reason to believe that the flight (93) was being taken back, that certain (heroic) passengers and flight assistants were gaining access to the airplane //
Not saying they succeeded -- we know the results is the airplane didn't make a safe landing any which way it is turned. But the very remote possibility that the passengers were regaining the controls MAY HAVE WORRIED the hell out of one Mr. Cheney.
A man whom you KNOW was fully aware of everything unfolding that day -- surely our technology allows for the communication of ground to air, and in the opposite direction as well // if on and being observed by others // that communication might be reason for worry -- for some.
If the one doing the listening THOUGHT that it might be possible that an airplane could be taken back under control // that control would translate as EVIDENCE (that same kind of PROOF we all like to have) being discovered, being made available.
Perhaps hearing 'we have control' was sufficient to announce to a military escort fighter jet following nearby to SHOOT down the terrorist.
And then cover it up with a story about Heros // How the heros tried, gave it their best, but just couldn't quite save the day. That would be easier to digest than hearing that we (our government) shot down one of our civilian airplanes when we had all the other matters of 9/11 to contend with, i.e., WTC, the Pentagon, etc.
Why add into the mix ANYTHING (??) that might otherwise be grounds for someone to look a bit further into the lies that were being told us -- Keeping us believing all damange was a result of Arabs, why upset the boat and make things more complicated to understand. If it was known that the airplane was shot down it might (and rightfully so) be cause for someone to check into matters deeper to make sure it was as it seemed. Let the matter rest with the people believing that there are 'heros among us' that sent that airplane to the ground, and carry that thought into making even more heroes on the battlefield the one that was (then from that moment on) right around the corner for our sleeping country.
They've done something very similar in the Pat Tillman case. An American was SHOT DOWN and then made the hero on a battfield of lies // Lies that are being question by the family more so than anyone in the government.
What I think happened is the airplane was either taken back or about to be taken back, and the guilty panicked and made sure to dispose of the evidence. Shooting it out of the skies sure took care of that problem-- by speading it over an 8-mile debris field.
If you THINK the guilty are above disposing of evidence -- Let me remind YOU of the WTC steel that was quickly gathered, placed on flatbed trucks each with GPS watching their every move, taken direct to the loading docks where the steel was just as quickly shipped by boat to places far-far away (China, India, etc). They got rid of that evidence as we all watched, in plain sight.
Flight 93 was shot down.
9/11 was an inside job. I think.
"Life is too short and friends, so is freedom.
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Beautifully said, Chris.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 2:13 pm | #
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You Un-American son of a bitch!
Give me your Papers.
Apparently, I am a Conspirator!
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 2:10 pm | #
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What?
You mean to tell me that that you refuse to fall into the goose step with Faux Noise?
You Un-American asshole.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Iraq win Asian Cup!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/...als/
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Iraq have won a historic win in the Asian cup final! A truly momentous day for Iraqi's in Iraq & across the world. Please digg to show your support!
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Great NWO fixed another sporting event to shift dissenting voices; now let's get the fuck out of there!!!!!
Apparently, I am a Conspirator!
http://www.graphictruth.com/
2007...onspiritor.html
Conscientious, web-savvy Conservatives, Libertarians and even Liberals with a civil Libertarian bent are turning toward Ron Paul. This phenomenon is being dismissed by pundits of Left and Right. They say that folks like me represent a conspiracy by just a few dozen fanatic supporters to "spam the web." Damn TASTY spam!
911 truther is a girl? I didn't know.
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No She is a whacho.
But she has the right to say her piece.
rather we agree with it or not.
It let's us see that there really are nut cases out there.
Militarty rule. Nam 1974.
President thu, rode by win his little limo, and motorcade, jeeps and soldieors. The crowd watched from the sidewalks,.
A man reached into his jackaet, the MIl.Police shot the man, he died in the gutter, his two daughters bent over him screaming and crying. The shooters kicked his jacket open and found he was looking for his ciggaretes. ** Martial Law**., they got back in their jeep and left the man in the gutter with his two daughters screaming.
Tre resisters were monks, one lit himlelf on fire in the street with a crowd watching, he was protesting the war in his spiritual fashion.
Mrs. Thui, presidents wife. , laughed and said to the effect another barbeque.
RE:Bush Wants Terrorism Law Updated
"Congress needs to act immediately to pass this bill,"
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No, what Congress needs to do is have this Bastard and all of his cabal arrested and tried for the attempted overthrow of this Republic.
Why is Congress letting this be done to our country?
They want a One World Government!
911 truther is a girl? I didn't know. I don't think he/she has an ulterior motive. Just a differing viewpoint.
Here is some up n' Adam for ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...related&
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RED ALERT - Ed and Elaine Brown UNDER ATTACK! Remember Ruby Ridge and Waco?
http://your-rights.com/permalink...malink/721/
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Subject: shots fired shots fired red alert Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:35 PM 30 to 40 rounds fired behind the house nose heard in the woods every one is at battle stations this in not a drill i repeat this in not a drill -- danny -- WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED THIS EMAIL FROM THE BROWN PROPERTY. START POSTING TO EVERY BLOG, WEBSITE, START EMAILING!
JFK about 9/11 and the emergence of a communist New World Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...?
v=fuiQj1WQzPQ#
Exposes the monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that killed Kennedy after he refused to go along with their plans and warned humanity for everything that has happened since his death. In his speech to the American press, JFK talked about the Illuminati and their ancient goal of a New World Order. This transformation has now been justified by 9/11...
It is Very Easy to be Generous with Taxpayer's Money
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/323
Why did Ron Paul vote against Congressional Gold Medals for Ronald Reagan and Rosa Parks? Because he refuses to spend taxpayer money on unconstitutional authorizations. But he happily offered to spend his own money.
...This is the most corrupt and racist American administration in over 80 years."
- Ken Livingstone, the MAYOR of LONDON
911 truther, don't let the Zionist "Jew" stuff make you dizzy. Evil is more than skin deep.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.29.07 - 1:54 pm | #
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C'mon GAK we have been trying to edumacate her for months, can't you see she has an alterior motif?
its 1984 wher they go back and change history.
History is written by the victorious?
steve | 07.29.07 - 1:50 pm | #
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OK guys, this is where it gets tricky...
when 911-frauder fails, steve mr. NWO walks in quoting the bible and interpreting it in a way to tell us to abndon the constitution in favor of a one world religion.
It is like tag team wrestling with COINTELPRO agents.
It is getting to the point of surreal.
So instead of all the Nazi rhetoric, he brings in all the one world religion communist rhetoric [la verdad is another one btw] where he says the founding fathers should be exposed for their crimes on humanity [interesting argument btw if you do not look deeper into their lives] and that the constitution is already not used so it must be destroyed in favor of a one world inquisition style of justice where people get beheaded in speedy trials with only 2 witnesses deciding a persons guilt and capital punishment.
You'll see stay tuned for the fun!
Good morning Jbrid! And all you fellow truthers. I need a cup o java.
And 911 truther and Sane. My God, I never thought I would come here and see you at each others throats! In the words of Joe from "Team America", the war is out there!
911 truther, don't let the Zionist "Jew" stuff make you dizzy. Evil is more than skin deep.
Falling Down - I want breakfast
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Absolutely great. Thanks for sharing. Great movie.
its 1984 wher they go back and change history.
History is written by the victorious?
Are you looking for a great job?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?
v=Pxsn5Mm6fzA
Be all that you can be.
How in the hell old are you anyway? Ten?
jbrid1138 | 07.29.07 - 1:44 pm | #
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No shit, I thought the same thing the first day she was posting!
jbrid1138 | 07.29.07 - 1:44 pm | #
Once again you come across as a verry wise man i bet you`re a grandfather with alot of experience and wisdom i honor you sir, and keep them posts coming
PP is up and runing now btw
I don't know what your military background is BUT my suggestion is stop telling any of us what soldiers have done by dying for us -- okay. If you can trump my 26-years active duty then go ahead maybe I'll listen a bit more carefully to your words. But right now all you seem to do is rant and carry on like some crazy person who has a little bit of the truth and doesn't seem to 'get it' that others do also. You're not alone in your knowledge, but you sure in the hell are pushing your limit with all your insane insults. They seem based in racial matters (slurs) and NOTHING (even the truth you say) makes your slurs and slanderous remarks acceptable. How in the hell old are you anyway? Ten?
Grow up and knock off all that bullshit language. It gets old quite quick, believe me. I'm sure there might be one or two others out there with your same anger but most of us are angry at those that lie to us (our government) and not so much each other. Wise up. And others out there WAKE UP.
My $.02
Lol nothing gets thru to this guy/lady, you can agre with him defend his right to speak his noncense and he just goes on and on and on like some duracel bunny.
Listen moron we all know the zionist where in on it but dont cheat you self by focusing on only one enemy they are many and as of right now you`re doing them a favor stop with the israel rant already. or are you just some spook or disinfo agent trying to poison this well?
Here is how I start my mornings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=-
eREiQhBDIk
jbrid1138 | 07.29.07 - 1:31 pm | #
I apologize but I really tried the same angle when i first traded posts with her, there are just some people that are under a very deep spell and it is difficult to release them. I really wish it were easier. And I apologize about getting frustrated sometimes. I have a commitment to out the disinfo artists early though but sometimes get wrapped up in it though.
sane, Millions of U.S. servicemen and women have died for YOUR lousy ass and are dying now in large part to warmongering Israel, needlessy as U.S. ALWAYS has to do Israel's fighting for them, and do you CARE, HELL NO, you don't! You ungrateful piece of SHIT, you! Do you even care thousands of American's have died for your assholes like you and are now in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you even care? TELL ME ONE FUCKING THING ISRAEL HAS EVER, EVER DONE FOR AMERICA NOT TO AMERICA, JUST ONE,SANE! I am waiting! Tell me ONE Goddamn thing sane! This "good ally' BULLSHIT has gone on long enough! It's a fucking 1 way street! For a Goddamn fact! Tell me one thing sane Israel has done FOR America NOT to America, just one! THERE IS NONE! NONE! This "good ally" bullshit is just that, ALL one way!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:29 pm | #
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now now frauder, you are commiting a sin to jesus by breaking the 9th commandment with that post. the new inquisition that you are assisting in bringing may use it against you in the future.
who would jesus bear false witness against???
Let's clear up something 911-TRUTHER -- I used your statement as a quote, yes I did, a starting place, it seemed to fit the video link I provided. But I'm pretty damn sure I didn't write that rant (or for that matter go in search of any video for your entertainment alone) // I found myself soon on a rant, not because of you, personally.
And you do take things personally, don't you. No reason to act like that forum buddy. It doesn't accomplish one thing, well yes it does too -- it gets you and others upset in the exchanges I've seen that follow.
Listen, no hard intentions sent your way by me, okay. As to what you said about flight 93, and Rumsfeld, and the flight being shot down. HELL YES -- I believe that 100-percent. Also that stuff yesterday about LARRY SILVERSTEIN and his obvious 'share' in the 9/11 booty-$$ // I believe that too.
But speaking of flight 93, there was considerable research I did on the matter myself. I went and purchased a book by a New York Times reporter, Jere Longman, titled 'Among the Heroes' // still reading it but learning as I go, it's all about flight 93. Also have a book by James M. Ennes, Jr titled "Assault on the Liberty" -- same as in that video clip // Haven't started it yet -- I try and keep as many book going on a given subject as possible. I'm not recommending either of these two, just wanted to relay that I'm reading, and learning. And in that vein, one of my favorite authors is David Ray Griffin, got a couple of his books that I have finished. Those I do recommend to EVERYBODY -- YOU included. Okay, smile a bit, it can't hurt none.
Looking at online web-pages I've discovered news articles written near the time of the SHOOT DOWN // discovered some pretty amazing things that lead me to also believe that the airplane was shot down and nothing resembling the official story version of events. I personally chose NOT to watch the recently released (flop) movie titled Flight 93 because I considered it would most likely be biased. I prefer to push away those things I find I question honesty in or around.
There was mention of an 8-mile debris field, part of it over a large lake that had airplane debris raining down over from the skies above -- people witnessed this happening. The FBI showed up afterwards and carted off large black platic bags full of the stuff. There was a heavy (nearly one-ton) airplane engine part discovered far from the alleged crash site. No bodies, no airplane that was ever reconstructed. Not because the parts were plenty (well maybe that to some degree) but because the evidence would have been clear.
I read about that pilot that did the shooting, from a National Guard base out West if I recall correctly. And here's that Rumfeld slip of the tongue regarding the airplane that was 'SHOT DOWN' over Pennsylvania -- can't get much clearer than this, now can one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=x...search=rumsfeld
Let me close by saying -- relax -- fellow forum member. We're all in this together, the search for the TRUTH. If we encounter someone (??) anyone (??) along our way that start talking about things in the opposite from what we have come to understand // that's okay them doing that // because we know who they are, and them doing that doesn't mean one thing to what the truth really is, now does it. They can try their best to convince us of a LIE but that's getting harder and harder for them to be of any value to those that really did 9/11. We've caught on to their little game and there isn't too awfully much you can do about changing that knowledge.
If you will permit me to say: once the toothpaste is out of the tube // It becomes too hard (certainly not possible) to put it back; that's for sure.
Relax. There's nearly 100 MILLION (or more of us -- ??) out here that know 9/11 was an inside job. Varing degrees of that belief, I realize that -- but the toothpaste is out of the tube. Enough from me.
kells, Your the one who emailed me remember? And you wanted to keep in touch!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:10 pm |
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Yes because you put your info out there. After your first 3 emails I decided not to write you back because you seemed very combative and angry.
I don't know if you work for someone or not on this board but I dont feel like taking any more chances. There are so many unknowns here.
Sorry if I have hurt your feelings, I just don't want to feel vulnerable right now.
sane, Millions of U.S. servicemen and women have died for YOUR lousy ass and are dying now in large part to warmongering Israel, needlessy as U.S. ALWAYS has to do Israel's fighting for them, and do you CARE, HELL NO, you don't! You ungrateful piece of SHIT, you! Do you even care thousands of American's have died for your assholes like you and are now in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you even care? TELL ME ONE FUCKING THING ISRAEL HAS EVER, EVER DONE FOR AMERICA NOT TO AMERICA, JUST ONE,SANE! I am waiting! Tell me ONE Goddamn thing sane! This "good ally' BULLSHIT has gone on long enough! It's a fucking 1 way street! For a Goddamn fact! Tell me one thing sane Israel has done FOR America NOT to America, just one! THERE IS NONE! NONE! This "good ally" bullshit is just that, ALL one way!
sane, Fuck off! The only frauder here and disinformant here is YOU!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:23 pm | #
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Please out of my over 100,000 posts point out one piece of disinformation, just one, please I beg you.
Maybe PP is down becuase the Browns are getting slaughtered this very minute?
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Police: No Activity At Home Of Couple Convicted Of Tax Evasion
WMUR, NH - 5 hours ago
A supporter of Ed and Elaine Brown who is staying at their home tells an online radio station that he heard gunshots at around 11:30 pm on Saturday. ...
http://www.wmur.com/news/1377650...502/
detail.html
Police have released the name of a woman killed in a house fire on ...
Cowichan Valley News Leader, Canada - Jul 28, 2007
Theresa Elaine Brown was named as the lone occupant in the home at the time of the blaze. The cause of the fire that quickly engulfed the home and filled it ...
http://www.cowichannewsleader.co...=1034699&
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[Was this a black ops message to the browns? Look what we can do to another Elaine Brown???]
Israel is the 51st state of the US which is the 5th state of UK [Canada/Australia, yada yada], which is a staging ground for the Vatican's plans, and so on and so on
Just find the traitors no matter where the hell they are from, WIF, how hard is this to see?
sane, Fuck off! The only frauder here and disinformant here is YOU!
I'm very disappointed
almost as if someone got to him.
if we don't expose 9-11 then the BS will continue & WW III will escalate into armageddon.
randy | 07.29.07 - 12:39 pm | #
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-----------The coin has two sides my freind, if he jumped om 911 now he would get buried. Or you may be correct.
One item no Politiciain can run from is WMD's, they did not exist.
I have heard no politician remark on this subject, has anyone????
We know they found few from 1991, we know civilian investigators searched Iraq endlessly a nd found none, We know we invaded a soveriegn country, and found none.
OK, this is not an issue huh, 800,000 innocents were killed, nothong, about 4-5 thousand troopers nothong, Air service troppers dressed as muslims killing police, heard none, oh well , the truth is there, but not in the media, or the halls of congress, jusice department, seanate, FBI, CIAS, NSA, or our illustrious Administration.
I just cant get it, destroy a ntion umder the guise of WMDs and not a squek from anywhere.
my oppinion- it is Insanity.
2006 by Mark Glenn
THIS SAYS IT ALL! SOO VERY TRUE! With "allies" like Israel WHO the HELL needs ENEMIES?? Israel is NOT a "good ally" fact! This is soo very true! And sane, I don't know WHY your worried about survival, you will be in like "flint' when your buddie's in Mossad pull another false flag attack or you turn snitch on patriotic American's one or other! I am sure you and Larry and PNAC group will be in all your glory!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:17 pm | #
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And those are the kind of emails that you will receive when you are the winner of the private room of 911frauder.
Shit after reading this I am going straight to iamthewitness and learn more about the "truth" about 911!!!
Israel, We Bless Thee
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Today, while driving through town, I wound up behind a minivan that had a big sticker on the back. The sticker had an Israeli flag in the middle of it, and under it the quotation from the book of Genesis that reads “I will bless those who bless thee.”
I would like to take this time to list my own reasons for thanking and blessing Israel, our lone ally in the Middle East, for everything she has done for us, since I am quite sure most Americans are unaware of just what kind of friend she has been to us.
For extorting from me and my fellow Americans $4,000,000,000.00 a year for the last 4 decades, we bless thee.
For taking our most sophisticated weapons technology and stealing it for yourself without paying the American patent holders, we bless thee.
For taking that high-tech military technology and selling it to our enemies, such as the Russians and Chinese, thus further endangering us, we bless thee.
For using that weaponry in a sustained attack against a United States ship, the USS Liberty, in an attempt to sink her, thus preventing US servicemen from revealing to the rest of the world information concerning the war crimes they witnessed you commit against Egyptian soldiers in the Sinai Desert during the Six Day War, as well as for the purposes of dragging the US into yet another one of your murderous adventures, we bless thee.
For killing 35 and wounding 170 American sailors aboard the USS Liberty, we bless thee.
For bribing the United States government into covering it up, preventing any justice from being done for the benefit of the families of the lost sailors - as well as the American People, we bless thee.
For sending your agents into Egypt and blowing up American buildings for the purpose of blaming the Arabs in an event known as the Lavon Affair, we bless thee.
For sending your agents into Libya during the Reagan administration, and broadcasting radio messages in Arabic that were designed to sound like “terrorist cell planning” so that the US would initiate military strikes against Khadafi in an event known as Operation Trojan Horse, we bless thee.
For withholding information from us concerning the planned attacks against the US Marine barracks in Lebanon, attacks you knew about through your moles in the Islamic world and about which you deliberately refused to warn us in order to further your interests against the Arabs, we bless thee.
For employing Jonathon Pollard, an American serviceman paid to spy for Israel in order to steal even more of our National Security secrets for your parasitic purposes, we bless thee.
For blackmailing President Clinton through one of your sayanim, Monica Lewinsky, in order to prevent a coherent peace program from being pushed forward between yourself and the Palestinian people whom you have brutalized and murdered for the last 50 years, we bless thee.
For breaking every agreement you have made with your Arab neighbors, stealing their land, displacing, murdering, and treating them like the animals you see them as, we bless thee.
For using your agents within the first Bush administration to involve us in the first Gulf War, causing the deaths of American men and women, and exposing our servicemen to whatever bioweapons were and are responsible which have led to Gulf War Syndrome, we bless thee.
For your role in the September 11 attacks in this country, and for blackmailing and bribing the US government into deporting back to Israel the 100 or more intelligence agents that were arrested after the attacks, we bless thee.
For suppressing the information from the American people of your involvement in the September 11 attacks and sending us in the wrong direction in search of answers, we bless thee.
For using one of your agents in the US Army Weapons Lab to steal anthrax and distribute it into our mail system, terrorizing US citizens and killing several in order to blame the Arabs, we bless thee.
For using your agents in the US Government, namely, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Abrams, and the rest into initiating this war in the Middle East so that you could bring to heel all the enemies you have made during the last 50 years, we bless thee.
For using your agents in the media to lie to us on a minute by minute basis about the war, lying to us as to how “just” this cause is, and what the real reasons behind it are, we bless thee.
For using your agents in the Christian Evangelical community, such as Falwell, Graham, Swaggert, Robertson and the rest who praise you as God’s chosen people and further keep Americans in the dark about who you really are what you have done, and what you are truly about, we bless thee.
For bringing idiots like Limbaugh, Liddy, Hannity, Beck, O’Reilly and Savage to the forefront as paid liars who will support you and further lead Americans astray, we bless thee.
For making America your attack dog, and for sending her sons and daughters to fight and die in all your future wars, we bless thee.
For using your influence in the media to hide the real statistics about the war, the dead and wounded on both sides, we bless thee.
For using us in such a way that not only further inflames the Arab world against us, but as well has succeeded in our alienating ourselves against those nations with whom we have been friendly for over a century, we bless thee.
And finally, for using your influence in our media and academia to flood our minds with pornography and lies, as well as inculcating in us a hatred for our history, religion, and culture, for dividing our nation between races and sexes, and for releasing into our society all of your plagues and filth that have left us a rotted out corpse of a once great nation, oh Israel, our friend,
we bless thee.
2006 by Mark Glenn
THIS SAYS IT ALL! SOO VERY TRUE! With "allies" like Israel WHO the HELL needs ENEMIES?? Israel is NOT a "good ally" fact! This is soo very true! And sane, I don't know WHY your worried about survival, you will be in like "flint' when your buddie's in Mossad pull another false flag attack or you turn snitch on patriotic American's one or other! I am sure you and Larry and PNAC group will be in all your glory!
Hey S. I statred trying to access prison planet since 10:00 AM, i kept getting this quote forbidden entrace to this site.
Is this a computer glich, gov. BS , spy shit.or what.
I know Im not compter wiz, but this one had me going. I know they got me glaged but I didnt know they had this.
CJ
chris jones | 07.29.07 - 1:06 pm | #
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The theory is it is the Israeli...I mean Wiki Defense Force and their black ops.
All I can say is if it is, then PP is about to get 10,000,000 new viewers because one thing that internet users hate is when one group tries to subvert and prevent the freedom of speech of a targeted site.
It is so contrary to the entire purpose of the fricking internet.
So if wki dudes are fucking with PP, then they just helped create PP into a real mainstream Internet site!
Guess they take lessons from 911frauder
GET READY FOR SOME BLOWBACK!!!!!!
kells, Your the one who emailed me remember? And you wanted to keep in touch!
sane, Tell me just 1 fucking thing Israel has ever done FOR AMERICA NOT TO AMERICA? JUST ONE FUCKING THING? And I am not a "Nazi" propaganda you bastard you! My father fought in WW2 for you you asshole, and got his ear drums busted and that is thanks we American's get is assholes like you who think you need to run the fucking world and asshole's like you who are ungratefull as HELL! FUCK YOU SANE! And to think my Dad got his ear drums busted for your sorry, ungrateful ass!
why the hell do people need to email each other anyway? aren't we into open flow of information? what cannot be said here? I never understood the whole, email me shit.
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 12:55 pm |
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I understand it. I have written people who put their info out here, in hopes of making a connection that will continue on long after the internet is gone. This is very real to me with real people, sincere people who I don't want to lose contact with. Haloscan is just a brief window.
sane, A BIG FUCK YOU sane! And I don't spread "Nazi" proganda just truth about how YOUR Zionist friends are trying to kill the rest of us! But hell you don't care do you!? You are a TOTALLY fucking asshole! Figure it out yourself sane on how to survive I am sure you can be a "snitch" when your Zionist mass murder friends pull another 9-11! You'll be in like flint! And I don't get "paid" anything, It's you to gets paid for spreading misinformation about truth about Mossad involvement on 9-11 and truth! YOUR THE ONE GETTING PAID NOT ME!FUCK YOU SANE! A BIG FUCK YOU! I hope you and asshole treasonous Larry Silverstein will be very happy! Your such a piece of shit! you lying bastard you!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 1:04 pm | #
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Easiest way to have a hater show their true colors, just keep posting truth, and then the truthful comments finally come out.
Nice job!
Even I did not think you were that wacko, wow!
You ever get a restraining order for stalking?
Hey S. I statred trying to access prison planet since 10:00 AM, i kept getting this quote forbidden entrace to this site.
Is this a computer glich, gov. BS , spy shit.or what.
I know Im not compter wiz, but this one had me going. I know they got me glaged but I didnt know they had this.
CJ
In case you guys ever want to drop quotes as if you are really intelligent [hehehe], I'll let you know just one of my favorite sites to rob quotes from:
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/fa...a/
famous_quotes
sane, A BIG FUCK YOU sane! And I don't spread "Nazi" proganda just truth about how YOUR Zionist friends are trying to kill the rest of us! But hell you don't care do you!? You are a TOTALLY fucking asshole! Figure it out yourself sane on how to survive I am sure you can be a "snitch" when your Zionist mass murder friends pull another 9-11! You'll be in like flint! And I don't get "paid" anything, It's you to gets paid for spreading misinformation about truth about Mossad involvement on 9-11 and truth! YOUR THE ONE GETTING PAID NOT ME!FUCK YOU SANE! A BIG FUCK YOU! I hope you and asshole treasonous Larry Silverstein will be very happy! Your such a piece of shit! you lying bastard you!
Love your site sane werry disturbing, to think that those are the pictures the world remembers about america. dicusting and its all being done in your name damn..
Lars | 07.29.07 - 12:59 pm | #
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Seeing how incredibly uninformed and misinformed so many Americans seem to be, I felt strongly, desperately even, the need to get this this information out to people, to wake them up to this danger, so that we might form some sort of defense against this fast creeping, ever growing threat. And like Bill Moyers, I believe that defense has to begin with information: i.e., the truth. I realize I'm just Some Guy, Joe Average Citizen, with even less credibility than Dick Cheney. You may think I'm overstating, exaggerating, hysterical, even paranoid; but I don't expect you to take my word for it. That's why this introduction, (and this site) is bolstered with quotes and interviews with Smart People, people like Walter Cronkite, Bill Moyers, Kurt Vonnegut, Nelson Mandela and the Mayor of London. People who know a little of what's going on. People who are telling us the danger is real, and it's now. You don't have to take my word for anything. But I hope you'll listen and hear them. Your freedom, and your life, and the lives of your family, and the survival of our democracy, our country, and our planet, depend on it. To continue following them down their path of greed, fear and violence can only ultimately destroy us all, in a vicious downward spiral of endless lies, terrorism and war. Did we learn nothing from the example of Israel and Palestine? Did we learn nothing from Vietnam? Did we learn nothing from Watergate and October Surprise and Iran Contra? Did we learn nothing from the the assisted coups and the collusions with dictators and death squads in South and Central America, whose greatest enemies were true Christians and missionaries? Did we learn nothing from the example of Germany in the 1930's? What have we become? What have we allowed ourselves to become? Caught between the comfort of our delusions and the anxiety of fears stoked by our court-appointed rulers, we have blindly followed them down a dark path, possibly of No Return. With fear as a prod, we're being lured into a monumental quagmire--not just in Iraq--but, likely, a world wide conflagration--as in World War III.
About This Site's Creator: JOSEPH BARNEY [A true American Superhero!!!!!!]
Joseph Barney began his career as an illustrator at Continuity Associates in New York, the commercial art studio commandeered by comics legend Neal Adams. He also worked on Madison Avenue, turning out hundreds of storyboards and 'animatics' for TV commercials. He free-lanced as a comic book penciller as well, working on such famous Marvel Comics characters as The Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, and Fantastic Four. In the nineties Joe moved west to work in the burgeoning multimedia arena. Among his recent projects: character design for Broderbund software's Carmen Sandeigo nemesis Chase Devineaux; animation artwork for the CD-ROM games Mysterious Island and Marty the Mouse for Elliot-Portwood Productions; a web adventure comic series for Eplay, an educational children's web site; production paintings and storyboards for the CGI 'cinematics' of Crystal Dynamics' Akuji the Heartless Playstation game; and a 'film noir' comic book for the I.T. consulting firm Xpedior. Joe is also an instructor in comic book illustration at the Academy of Art in San Francisco. You can see some his work at http://www.communicomics.com/
kells, Another thing to get is crank weather radio with capablities to charge cell phone too, or like and they have some with lanterns too,etc. Also stock up on any medications you need and get plenty of pain killer's too!
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C'mon someone else posted that right?
I do not promote the engaging in nick frauding, but sometimes it is humourous.
Love your site sane werry disturbing, to think that those are the pictures the world remembers about america. dicusting and its all being done in your name damn..
"The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact. They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution."
Henry A. Wallace 33rd Vice President of the United States
kells, Another thing to get is crank weather radio with capablities to charge cell phone too, or like and they have some with lanterns too,etc. Also stock up on any medications you need and get plenty of pain killer's too!
Change of pace.
They spent a couple of days and nights on the farm of what would be considered a very poor family.
On their return from their trip, the father asked his son, "How was the trip?"
"It was great, Dad."
"Did you see how poor people live?" the father asked.
"Oh yeah," said the son.
"So, tell me, what did you learn from the trip?" asked the father.
The son answered:
"I saw that we have one dog and they had four.
We have a pool that reaches to the middle of our garden and they have a creek that has no end.
We have imported lanterns in our garden and they have the stars at night.
Our patio reaches to the front yard and they have the whole horizon.
We have a small piece of land to live on and they have fields that go beyond our sight.
We have servants who serve us, but they serve others.
We buy our food, but they grow theirs.
We have walls around our property to protect us, they have friends to protect them."
The boy's father was speechless.
Then his son added, "Thanks Dad for showing me how poor we are."
Isn't perspective a wonderful thing? Makes you wonder what would happen if we all gave thanks for everything we have, instead of worrying about what we don't have.
Appreciate every single thing you have, especially your friends!
"Life is too short and friends, so is freedom.
Lets keep it simple.
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why the hell do people need to email each other anyway? aren't we into open flow of information? what cannot be said here? I never understood the whole, email me shit.
Agreed ?
kells | 07.29.07 - 12:36 pm
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Prepare to get spammed with Nazi propaganda, she gets paid like a few pennies for every COINTELPRO attachment and reference she sends. Use a deleatable email account.
Been there done that.
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 12:45 pm
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On second thought Sue , there is nothing we need to discuss that can't be said right here.
Lets keep it simple.
This does not really bother me much because Wikipidia is not a credible source anyways. Anybody can go on there and type up some bullshit...
One of 9-11 Frauder's good buddies:
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You see it's the Evil Jews at the top who illiminate the the average Jew at the bottom ,then blame it on ,say Germans or 911 truthers .They label them as anti-semitic (through the Jewish controled media no less)The world is outraged then the world rallies behind the Zionist without ever knowing it was the Zionist who did it in the first place .Hence gullible Goyim!Theodor Herzl's plan is almost Flawless it has worked time and time again .You see SAne this leads me to believe that you are either buddy's with Theodor Herzl plan or a useful idiot to it.You defend the Zionist tooth and nail then when confronted you post silly links showing us that ,hey look I have Talked nagatively about the Zionst (sort of).You know damn well what your doing too .I've never said you were stupid ,in fact I think your clever .But I see the pattern in your post's you might be fooling half of this forum probably more, but I'm NOT fooled .You see Sane I'm armed with the Truth it may not be popular(right now) but it will prevail .I think what piss's me of the most about you is that I think that you do know everything about the obvious Zionist /Jew part in it all and you purposely decieve and mislead .I think your a Zionist Sane!
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It is the bad jews, not the good jews.
So the plan is probably to take them out with the same precision we use in Iraq to take out the bad muslims and not the good ones.
This is NWO's favorite trick.
Not all the Sunni's just Al-Qaeda
Not all the Shia's just Iran';s elite fighters
Not all the blacks, just the gangbangers
Not all the Frence, just the ones that live in France...
on and on and on, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
Agreed ?
kells | 07.29.07 - 12:36 pm
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Prepare to get spammed with Nazi propaganda, she gets paid like a few pennies for every COINTELPRO attachment and reference she sends. Use a deleatable email account.
Been there done that.
Has anyone heard how Ed Brown and wife are?
But are YOU to be the judge and jury on an entire people because of geographic boundaries alone that separate us from them
I have NEVER judged an entire people adn YOU damn well know it,too! And I DO HATE ALL ZIONISTS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH JEWS! Because ALL AND I DO MEAN ALL ZIONISTS ARE PURE FUCKING EVIL, EVER LAST ONE OF THEM! NOT to be confused with real Jews! Satan's bible is NOT called the Protocols of Elder's Zion for nothing! Zion as in Zionist,people!
Ron Paul LIVELEAK interview...
Ron Paul is distancing himself further & further from 9-11 truth IMO
the 2 towers & WTC # 7 were absolutely,100% brought down by controlled demolition IMO
if he can't stand with 9-11 truth at least on that much then I can no longer support RP
I thought the Ron Paul campaign would be built on a "truth" platform & if he is going to run away from 9-11 then what else will he run away from in the next year leading up to the elections??
I'm very disappointed
almost as if someone got to him.
if we don't expose 9-11 then the BS will continue & WW III will escalate into armageddon.
jbrid1138, Have I EVER said on this board I hate ALL Jews? NEVER! Have I ever blamed all of Israel for 9-11 NO! And your forgetting Lavon affair and spying on U.S. too! And I DO blame Israeli's THEY COULD HAVE REFUSED! One Israeli pilot DID refuse to bomb our ship the U.S.S. Liberty! And I think the troops who refuse to go to Iraq and Afghanistan are MORE hero's then one's who go and strongly defend them!
kells, Email me OK? We never got to finish our posting and I lost where we were at on board!
9-11 truther | 07.29.07 - 12:23 pm
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I will on two conditions Sue : 1) don't send me anymore huge emails... my computer can't handle it. I have four or five from you right now. I have read your position about our government and who you want for president in your first email , don't keep sending your position to me.
And - 2) don't scream questions at me, it is very upsetting, and I am telling you now , I won't be able to answer you if you do that to me.
Agreed ?
sane, Now WHY in hell would Cheney be pissed that pilot shot down Flight 93 when it was him to ordered it shot down so NO survivor's to tell what REALLY happened? WRONG! Cheney ordered the plane shot down by one Lt.. Rick Gibney! Boy for someone who is supposed to know alot about 9-11 truth YOU KNOW NOTHING or are faking it one! Or are disinformation specialist one! Lt. Rick Gibiney SHOT down Flight 93 but it was NOT to save "Capital" passenger's were winning battle in cockpit, mike was open, Cheney gave orders to shoot down Flight 93 as they couldn't have any LIVE witness's, one sidewiinding missile hit ground, probably on purpose to fake BULLSHIT story of plane crashing or maybe pilot just missed 1st time, then he hit it with another sidewinder missile exploding it in mid-air hence scattered debris and No evidence of crash at site! Hence they gave Lt. Gibney servicemen's medal of honor for doing so 1 year after 9-11, when they said he was a "hero" yet WHY hide fact if he was by giving it to him 1 year later, and quietly in N. Dakota!? FLIGHT 93 WAS SHOT DOWN, THEY COULD NOT AFFORD TO HAVE LIVE WITNESS'S! FACT! There is even a video of the award ceremony too! sane, You don't know truth about 9-11 at all or not all of it!
(snip) And especially NOT Israel who has murdered American's before!
911-TRUTHER
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Yes, understood -- and thinking about that, the attack upon the U.S.S. Liberty jumps to mind.
Seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...related&
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-- BUT -- Now that you've seen that //
Don't fail to understand that the ones doing the attacking were no more loyal or no more less loyal to their government than our own American Forces are to our leaders in charge -- judge accordingly in other words.
Sure they did it, but listen carefully to the dialogue in the video -- How the attacking airplane was reluctant to attack an American ship // the U.S. flag flying proud and strong in the sun in waters near a foreign port // they did it for sure; and did horrific things like machinegun distressed sailors blown over board, left floating in those international waters -- horrible as that truly was and truly sounds. The attackers were following orders issued by their own government -- blessed by OUR own government // corrupt as all that surely was (and is) //
But don't lose sight of the overall //
The attackers were loyal wooden soldiers following orders -- just as our own wooden folk have been known to do, in looking outwards.
Do YOU wish to cut off our own nose by condeming our soldiers also? Is there something I'm missing about the definition of war and what crazy things happen and are capable of happening when a government i turns corrupt?
9/11 jumps back into my head.
But are YOU to be the judge and jury on an entire people because of geographic boundaries alone that separate us from them? They didn't all attack us, now did they.
It wasn't right, it can't be excused, but those are the facts. And then there are those that were subjected to the actual attack -- i.e., those that survived. They went on to live long lives. Threatened lives, no question about it, but long lives, nevertheless.
And I might add that threatened part (??) -- not by Israel -- threatened by OUR government.
A false flag operation that was nearly successful and would have been if there hadn't been witnesses (which has actually persisted withouti prosecution -- this happened back in the 1960s, folks). A time of great confusion in our land, our President had been shot and killed a few years before; what do you call something lke that? Oh yes -- We had gangsters sitting at our table // our controlling governmental tables -- very similar to the way it is now. Probably even stronger now.
So remember YOU few that do lose perspective so easily, there are far greater and finely detailed matters to weigh. It is understood at times these things are much easilier delt with in our own heads if we lay them at the feet of another // such as in al Qaeda //such as in Iraqi // such as those crazy Iranians asking for it -- and while we're at it someone else throws in those unholy North Koreans every now and again just to keep the pot of anger and confusion simmering in stir mode. Add to the mix one-half teaspoon of anger and one shake of patriotic pride, making sure to stir slowly (our government's hand in it) so as not to boil and ruin the soup.
Don't blame Israel // blame their gangster element in charge. They are all brothers and sisters in crime // a thing said like that isn't confined to some religious following you know. Brotherhood knows no silly boundaries either.
Just like you shouldn't blame America for what it's soldiers do (in carrying out orders best they can when people are shooting back at them -- who started what and why (??) is long behind at that point, survival kicks in) // Blame the gangsters in control that are dead set to trick us -- to force us into submission. It's their game.
Be it by the price of gasoline creeping even higher -- evenually the dog eat dog world we live in will DEMAND we take the oil away from under those foreign lands that have it --it being theirs doesn't mean one damn thing // If we want it // if our people DEMAND it -- we (within our government) that can and are willing, are damn well gonna go and get it for them. Even to the degree of thinking what they do is patriotic and well within their own religious concepts // something there about becoming caloused to reality and losing perspective on decency.
Thing is -- it truly doesn't have to be this way.
That dog eat dog 'thought-speak' is the language of gangsters, it's how their individual mind works.
Ours -- the peace-loving Hippies that we are --just want to lve and let live.
Vote Ron Paul 2008. We could do a lot worse. It's worse right now -- for example, turn off the TV and THINK.
My Sunday morning rant. I feel a hell of a lot better now that I got that out of my system. Until later.
Some brave pilot blew the Unmanned aircraft out of the sky and AEI/PNAC/Cheney are so pissed.
sane, Where does it say that at? Where?
kells, Email me OK? We never got to finish our posting and I lost where we were at on board!
Flight 93 WAS SHOT DOWN! Rummie even admitted it once on video! FACT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h?
v=k0v0_HDwg84
Rummie has also admitted missile hit Pentagon and he is right on BOTH counts! FACTS! Period!
I do pray for you my friends but prayers alone wont help God does not hand out favors but he will give you an opurtunity to help you selfs..
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I am looking to God for opportunities to help
us . The prayers will help us hear the Creator as he leads and guides us THROUGH this nightmare and directs our ( my) focus.
My God is a hands-on real- time God Lars . Sorry if I gave you any other impression.
: )
>>>>Continuity of Government is owned by Cheney's Front Group, AEI
http://www.continuityofgovernmen...t.org/
home.html
About the Commission
The Continuity of Government Commission was launched in the fall of 2002 in order to study and recommend reforms to ensure the continuity of our governmental institutions in the event of a catastrophic attack.
The commission is an American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Brookings Institution project headquartered at AEI. It is funded by the Carnegie, Hewlett, Packard, and MacArthur foundations. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford are the honorary co-chairs of the commission and Lloyd Cutler and Alan Simpson are the chairmen. The commission includes members who have served in government at the highest levels.
The commission first focused its attention on preserving Congress, and has now turned to the executive and the Supreme Court. The central issue that the commission addressed is how Congress could function if a large number of members were killed or incapacitated. The problem is most acute in the House of Representatives because the Constitution requires that all vacancies be filled by special election, and it takes four months on average to fill these seats. If there were mass vacancies, the House might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement, or it might operate with a small and unrepresentative number. A second problem is that of incapacity. There is no precedent for filling temporary vacancies so both houses of Congress would be severely diminished, or unable to operate at all, if a large number of members were incapacitated. The events of September 11th led to several ongoing efforts to preserve the continuity of Congress. There was a similar effort in the 1950s and 1960s to deal with these same issues.
In addition, the commission will deal both with the continuity of the Supreme Court, which has a quorum requirement, and with potential reforms to the Presidential Succession Act.The commission met twice in the fall of 2002 to hear testimony and formulate recommendations. It issued a report in June of 2003 on the continuity of Congress. The second phase of the commission has begun addressing presidential succession and will include discussion of continuity in the Supreme Court.
Areas of Investigation
The Continuity of Government Commission will address the continuity of all three branches of government:
Continuity of Congress - The central issue the commission will address is how Congress would function after a terrorist attack. Because of the possibility of large numbers of incapacitated members or vacancies, Congress might not be able to function unless some provision is made to replace members who are deceased or unable to perform their duties. A crippled Congress might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement in a time of crisis.
Presidential Succession - In a second phase of the project, the commission will look at issues surrounding the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, with an eye to ensure that there is a clear transfer of power to the appropriate successor in a time of crisis.
Continuity of the Supreme Court - In the aftermath of a terrorist attack, there might be significant institutional questions over which the Supreme Court would have to rule. The Supreme Court has a quorum requirement of six, and there are a number of other questions about the status of lower court appeals if the Court were disabled for a significant amount of time.
Continuity of Congress But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session. The resulting deaths and injuries might have caused the Congress to cease functioning altogether for a number of months. There are two issues that threaten the continuity of Congress after a terrorist attack: mass vacancies and incapacitated members. The issue of mass vacancies affects the House of Representatives where vacancies are filled only by special election, unlike the Senate where governors may make immediate temporary appointments. Special elections are governed by state laws, and, on average, it takes four months to elect a new member to fill a vacant seat. Depending on the number of vacancies, the House might not even be able to field a quorum, or it might have to operate with a skeleton crew of members not representative of the country as a whole. The second issue of incapacitated members affects both the House and the Senate. Neither body has regular procedures to deal with incapacitated members. In the past, members who have serious incapacities that prevent them from performing their duties were left in place until the end of their terms. If a large number of members were temporarily unable to perform their duties due to injuries or infectious diseases, both bodies might not be able to function because of a lack of a quorum. In the 1950s and 60s, the Senate passed three constitutional amendments giving governors the power to make temporary appointments to fill House vacancies when there were mass vacancies. The House did not act on these measures. After September 11th, Norman Ornstein wrote "What if Congress were Obliterated?" in Roll Call addressing this very issue. On a parallel track, Congressman Brian Baird introduced H.J. Res. 67. A number of other proposals have been introduced or suggested. There have also been a number of hearings before committees in the House.
http://www.continuityofgovernmen...mages/
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Did you guys get that?????
Some brave pilot blew the Unmanned aircraft out of the sky and AEI/PNAC/Cheney are so pissed. Here it is again:
Continuity of Congress: But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session.
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WAKE UP ... Ledeen found Ron Paul to be a great threat to the Neocon agenda back in 2003, what do you suppose Michael Ledeen thinks of Ron Paul now??????
Ledeen is in direct communication with Cheney's Black Ops group and AIPAC.
People need to know who is pulling the strings!
Not that Ledeen is also not just another puppet for NWO, MIC and Energy, but keep climbing up the ladder of treasonous war criminals tather than focusing on the lower steps.
Concerning Ledeen v. Ron Paul
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=13220#116663
Let us look at PNAC/AEI and all of their fine work:
"new pearl harbor"
Iraq War
Surge I
Surge II
Patriot Act
Continuity of Government
Patriot Act II
Military Commissions Act
Iran Plan
North Korea Plan
Plan to remove foreign policy from the president and put the responsibility of an NGO puppet under the code name "War Czar."
Campaign to supress DC Madam phone resords.
Campaign to link VT to 9/11 truthers and/or islamic funamentalist sympathizers.
Smeer campaign against 9/11 truthers-includes the focused campaign to lock up all truthers as mentaly ill and enemies of the state (Fred Thompson revealed a part of this in the Michael Moore video and Kagan revealed it in his writings).
Also the Continuity of Government
I do pray for you my friends but prayers alone wont help God does not hand out favors but he will give you an opurtunity to help you selfs..
"During a war, news should be given out for instruction rather than information." -Joseph Paul Goebbels
The war made possible for us the solution of a whole series of problems that could never have been solved in normal times." -Joseph Paul Goebbels
"Not every item of news should be published. Rather must those who control news policies endeavor to make every item of news serve a certain purpose."-Joseph Paul Goebbels
"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion."-Joseph Paul Goebbels
My dad lost everything when we didnt come back he died a few years later of a "stroke in the brain" yes i know he loved us verry much, problem was the entire family culd not leave someone had to stay behind so that they culd be punished incase we didnt come back,
Lars | 07.29.07 - 11:26 am |
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Oh my God . So sorry.
You are kind to be here in hopes of helping us.
Bless you. If you believe , please pray for us.
Thank you.
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GOEBBELS v. BUSH/Rove
http://bunker.defcode.com/
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Goebbels: Communism with the Mask Off
Bolshevics carry on a campaign, directed by the Jews, with the international underworld, against culture as such. Bolshevism is not merely anti-bourgeois; it is against human civilisation itself.
GWB: State of the Union 9/20/01
The leadership of al Qaeda has great influence in Afghanistan and supports the Taliban regime in controlling most of that country. In Afghanistan, we see al Qaeda's vision for the world.
GWB: Statement by the President in His Address to the Nation 9/11/01
America was targeted for attack because we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining."
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Goebbels: New Year's Eve 31 December 1943
Our people survived so brilliantly the test of enemy air terror during the year 1943 that the enemy can bury the hopes he had for it. The nights of bombing have indeed made us poorer, but also harder. The misery of air terror is to some degree the mortar that holds us together as a nation in the midst of all dangers. Our people have not fallen apart during the nightly fire storms as our enemies hoped and wished, rather have become a firm and unshakable community.
GWB: Statement by the President in His Address to the Nation 9/11/01
The pictures of airplanes flying into buildings, fires burning, huge structures collapsing, have filled us with disbelief, terrible sadness, and a quiet, unyielding anger. These acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. But they have failed; our country is strong.
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Goebbels: Communism with the Mask Off
Bolshevism denies religion as a principle, fundamentally and entirely. It recognises religion only as an "opium for the people". For the help and support of religious belief, however, National Socialism absolutely places in the foreground of its programme a belief in God and that transcendental idealism which has been destined by Nature to bring to expression the racial soul of a nation. Even ignoring the past, the present refutes the stupid and base claims our enemies use to conceal their actions, which oppose or destroy culture. It is a rape of sound understanding to justify the attacks of English or American terror planes on German or Italian cities on cultural grounds.
GWB: President Discusses War on Terrorism 11/8/01
This new enemy seeks to destroy our freedom and impose its views. We value life; the terrorists ruthlessly destroy it. We value education; the terrorists do not believe women should be educated or should have health care, or should leave their homes. We value the right to speak our minds; for the terrorists, free expression can be grounds for execution. We respect people of all faiths and welcome the free practice of religion; our enemy wants to dictate how to think and how to worship even to their fellow Muslims.
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Goebbels: In the Front Ranks
Whether man, woman or child, they were victims of a cynical enemy that is trying to win by evil and perfidious air terror what he is unable to do by force of arms: to break our people's morale. I do not need to talk about that. We all know what this war is about. The enemy himself has told us often enough that, if we are weak, we will have a peace compared to which war is a blessing. They are about an insidious attempt to exterminate the greatest and proudest people on earth. The German nation is resisting with unanimity, strong weapons, and the strong hearts of men, women and children. With unprecedented moral strength, they are withstanding the enemy's insidious attacks, its cowardly assault on their national honor, unity, and steadfastness, Our dead are their witnesses. I wish to speak so loudly here that no one can fail to hear. I stand here as an accuser before the world public. I accuse the enemy of conducting brutal air terror for no other reason than to torture a defenseless civilian population, to inflict sorrow, horrors, pain and death upon them as a way of forcing them to betray their nation. Such an attempt will never succeed. These cowardly deeds will only bring eternal shame on the nations whose governments carry on such contemptible and insidious warfare against women, old people and children. The Anglo-American military leadership differs only in that they not only make no distinctions between men, women and children, but do not even wish to. They intentionally and cynically carry the war to civilian areas, turn them into a battlegrounds, and force women, the aged and children to live and fight like soldiers.
GWB: President Bush's Address on Homeland Security 11/9/01
This enemy tries to hide behind a peaceful faith. But those who celebrate the murder of innocent men, women, and children have no religion, have no conscience, and have no mercy.
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Goebbels: The Winter Crisis is Over
True and loyal allies, the Axis nations, stand at our side. They too are fighting for their lives. Nearly all of Europe is working to support our war effort. The fruits of our common fighting and industry will one day come. After victory, our part of the world will be a powerful continental community comprised of free peoples who have devoted themselves to a great common cause.
GWB: President Discusses Year-End Accomplishments in Cabinet Meeting 12/11/03
Let me make sure everybody understands that men and women from our country, who proudly wear our uniform, risked their life to free Iraq. Men and women from other countries, in a broad coalition, risked their lives to free Iraq. And the expenditure of U.S. dollars will reflect the fact that U.S. troops and other troops risked their life. Now, we want to work with all countries. We have a common goal, and that is to see that Iraq is free and peaceful. It is in every nation's interest that Iraq be free and peaceful. And we welcome contributions, we welcome people's willingness to participate in this difficult, yet important job of rebuilding Iraq.
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Goebbels: Total War
A Bolshevization of the Reich would mean the liquidation of our entire intelligentsia and leadership, and the descent of our workers into Bolshevist-Jewish slavery. They find workers for the Siberian tundra in the forced labor battalions of Moscow, as the Führer said in his proclamation on 30 January.
GWB: Remarks by the President on the Six-Month Anniversary of the September 11th Attacks
Here is what we already know: some states that sponsor terror are seeking or already possess weapons of mass destruction; terrorist groups are hungry for these weapons, and would use them without a hint of conscience. And we know that these weapons, in the hands of terrorists, would unleash blackmail and genocide and chaos.
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Folks, I tuned in Prison planet and this notice turned up, forbidden to enter.
Fimaly I go in, or so it appears, maby Ill have more problems, but is this Gov. playing, a spy reder, or just an internet blip.
Thanks for respnonding.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels
“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over” Joseph Goebbels
“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” Joseph Goebbels
“Intellectual activity is a danger to the building of character” Joseph Goebbels
“Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” Joseph Goebbels
“If the day should ever come when we [the Nazis] must go, if some day we are compelled to leave the scene of history, we will slam the door so hard that the universe will shake and mankind will stand back in stupefaction..” Joseph Goebbels
“Whoever can conquer the street will one day conquer the state, for every form of power politics and any dictatorship-run state has its roots in the street.” Joseph Goebbels
“If we are attacked we can only defend ourselves with guns not with butter.”
Joseph Goebbels
Al Fatah's Nazi training was CIA-sponsored
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/ci...l/cia-
fatah.htm
Historical and Investigative Research - 22 July 2007
by Francisco Gil-White
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/ci...l/cia-
fatah.htm
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The US government has been pushing very hard to give Mahmoud Abbas’s Al Fatah its own state, carved out of the Jewish state. Al Fatah (also known as 'the PLO') was trained in the 1950s by CIA-sponsored German Nazis.
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These facts are not widely known or understood.
During the 1948 war, the United States and Britain assisted the Arab attack against the Israeli Jews, which attack, in the words of Azzam Pasha, secretary general of the Arab League (a British creation), would be “a war of extermination and a momentous massacre, which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades.”[1] The US government placed an arms embargo on the Israeli Jews, and the British government used the troops it still had not evacuated from what had been British Mandate Palestine to help the Arabs, going also to the length of sending the Arab armies captured Nazi officers to assist the genocidal effort [see 1947-48 section].[1a] In spite of all this, the combined Arab armies suffered a bewildering, humiliating defeat in the War of 1948, and perhaps especially so the Egyptian army.
Historian Christopher Simpson has documented, with material obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, that immediately after 1945 the US government began secretly recruiting a great multitude of Nazis, including many notorious war criminals, in order to construct the US intelligence services [see 1945 section]. As the Washington Post wrote in its review of Simpson's book, “It is no longer necessary -- or possible -- to deny the fact: the U.S. government systematically and deliberately recruited active Nazis by the thousands.”[1b] The Washington Post should have written that it was tens of thousands, however.
Frank Wisner was one of the main architects of the absorption of Nazis to create the CIA.[2] Following Egypt’s defeat in the 1948 war, Simpson explains, “Frank Wisner had dispatched his top troubleshooter to the Mideast, Kermit (‘Kim’
Roosevelt, to Cairo as early as 1951 to open secret negotiations with Colonel Gamal Abdel Nasser and his insurgent Society of Free Officers,” who were getting ready to launch a coup d’état in that country.[3]
Egypt loses its genocidal war against Israel; the CIA sends its “top troubleshooter.” A failed genocidal war against Israel is something to fix.
Roosevelt reported to his superiors that there was, in his words, “a large area of agreement” with Nasser. “Nasser asked Roosevelt for aid in building up Egypt’s military intelligence and internal security squads,” the inferiority of which had been demonstrated by their defeat against the Israeli Jews. “So CIA director Allen Dulles turned to [Reinhard] Gehlen in 1953 for help in the Egyptian situation.”[3]
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The article goes into great lengths to uncover the almost 100,000 nazi's got positioned all over the world.
The article however fails to mention the nazi's that also went to israel and that israel is proxied into conflicts of interest when attention needs to be diverted from the superpowers' abuses of power.
It also fails to mention the influential supposedly "pro-israel" people that are more influential at ensuring her demise like AIPAC/Sharon/Zionism/AEI/PNAC/Kissinger/Energy Lobby/Military Lobby
They all are in support of billions in new weaponry to the area guaranteeing that WWIII will be started in the Middle East.
This is an at least 50 year plan that was almost compromised by Sadat and Rabin.
About the only ones talking about both sides of the coin are Ron Paul, Seymore Hersh, PP, Moyers, Feingold, I am sure there are others.
I am so happy for you in your new life Lars. I am sorry about your father though. Is he still in Poland?
He must have loved you very much, and yes, he is a hero.
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My dad lost everything when we didnt come back he died a few years later of a "stroke in the brain" yes i know he loved us verry much, problem was the entire family culd not leave someone had to stay behind so that they culd be punished incase we didnt come back,
I thank you for the kind words though, I`m fine i have no emotional scars other that i hate tyrany and love freedom i live in denmark now wich i consider my country i have a butiful danish wife and two butiful kids i just pray for you my friends. American martial law will be bigger and bether than anything we have seen before
Lars | 07.29.07 - 11:08 am |
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I am so happy for you in your new life Lars. I am sorry about your father though. Is he still in Poland?
He must have loved you very much, and yes, he is a hero.
Immigration_by_the_Numbers
http://video.google.com/videopla...q=numbersusa&
hl
Roy Beck's celebrated demonstration of the population consequences of current U.S. immigration policies has entertained and shocked audiences across the country. This video is packed with the facts and analysis that make moral and practical sense of a complex and highly contentious issue.
I thank you for the kind words though, I`m fine i have no emotional scars other that i hate tyrany and love freedom i live in denmark now wich i consider my country i have a butiful danish wife and two butiful kids i just pray for you my friends. American martial law will be bigger and bether than anything we have seen before
30 Billion Dollars Of Taxpayer Money To Go To Israel For Arms!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/
6920988.stm
So their arming gulf states that hate israel... and israel as well and then some people are naive enough to believe the USA wants peace in middle east.
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WAKE UP!!!
$30 Billion to Israel
$20 Billion to Saudis
$122 Billion for Iraq that always makes its way to ISI in Pakistan that fund the Al-Qaeda war machine and Giza spinoffs in Turkey that fund the Iran war machine
>>HARPER"S REPORTS ON THE BBC DOCUMENTARY-EVEN MENTIONS BUSH!
1934: The Plot Against America. By Scott Horton
http://harpers.org/archive/2007/...07/hbc-
90000651
July 28, 2007
I’m back from the land of heather and thistles, not to mention wee drams and lukewarm ale, but on my way out a friend at the BBC alerted me to this, a not-to-miss program on the BBC this morning, accessible over the next several days by internet. It’s the story of the Plot Against America. I don’t mean the Philip Roth novel, nor even the Sinclair Lewis book, It Can’t Happen Here, but rather the historical events upon which these two works of fiction were based.
In November 1934, federal investigators uncovered an amazing plot involving some two dozen senior businessmen, a good many of them Wall Street financiers, to topple the government of the United States and install a fascist dictatorship. Roth’s novel is developed from several strands of this factual account; he assumed the plot is actually carried out, whereas in fact an alert FDR shut it down but stopped short of retaliatory measures against the plotters. A key element of the plot involved a retired prominent general who was to have raised a private army of 500,000 men from unemployed veterans and who blew the whistle when he learned more of what the plot entailed. The plot was heavily funded and well developed and had strong links with fascist forces abroad. A story in the New York Times and several other newspapers reported on it, and a special Congressional committee was created to conduct an investigation. The records of this committee were scrubbed and sealed away in the National Archives, where they have only recently been made available.
The Congressional committee kept the names of many of the participants under wraps and no criminal action was ever brought against them. But a few names have leaked out. And one is Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the incumbent president. Prescott Bush was of course deep into the business of the Hamburg-America Lines, and had tight relations throughout this period with the new Government that had come to power in Germany a year earlier under Chancellor Aldoph Hitler. It appears that Bush was to have formed a key liaison for the group with the new German government.
Prescott Bush, of course, went on to service as a U.S. Senator from Connecticut, and his son, George H.W. Bush emerged from World War II as a hero.
The Plot Against America portrayed in this episode of the BBC series “Document” gives fascinating insight into a dark and little known piece of American history in which the nation stood on the brink of betrayal. The role of the most powerful political dynastic family in the nation’s history in this whole affair is shocking.
Thank you Lars.
I have a huge amount of respect for people who have already been through what we, by all indications, will be facing soon.
How are you doing now ?
God bless you and keep posting friend
kells | 07.29.07 - 10:03 am | #
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Im not some hero i wass just a kid, and me my brother and mum where able to flee the county in 86 ( my grandfather was a policeman) but we had to leave our dad and everything behind, my dad sacrificed him self so we culd live in freedom hes the hero,
General Clark's Hackers, LimeWire, and over 200 classified documents
http://www.betanews.com/article/...Wire/
1185501675
Speaking on behalf of a security software he a board member of, the Former General and Presidential Candidate, Wesley Clark reported findings that his company was able to access and compromise US Government information security through LimeWire.
Iraqi security forces & U.S. advisors [WTF is a US advisor???] battle Mahdi Army in Karbala
http://billroggio.com/archives/
2...ity_force_2.php
While al Qaeda in Iraq has been identified as the primary enemy by the U.S. military leadership in Iraq, Coalition and Iraq security forces have aggressively pursued the Iranian-backed "rogue" elements of the Mahdi Army and the Special Groups. Over the past two days, Iraqi security forces, backed by U.S. Special Forces advisors, conducted two. . .
Al Sadr Wants U.N. To Make America Stop Attacking His Army
http://patdollard.com/2007/07/27...cking-his-army/
In a weird ploy, he claims the U.S. wants to attack specific towns where his army is entrenched not to attack his army, but to commit mass murder against civilians.
America's Enemies Within the CIA [Book Release]
http://www.sabotagebook.com/offe...r.php?
id=SAB002
Since the attacks on September 11, 2001, intelligence collection has become the number-one weapon in the effort to defeat al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. A plot penetrated is an attack stopped. And to the outside observer, the CIA has performed well as a key partner in the Bush administration’s War on Terror. But as Rowan Scarborough reveals in this groundbreaking new book, Sabotage, significant elements within the CIA are undermining both the president and national security through leaks, false allegations, and outright sabotage.
Using his first-rate sources in all levels of national security—from field officers to high-ranking analysts to former intelligence heads—Scarborough paints a disturbing picture of partisan politics endangering the success of our campaigns abroad and the very lives of our soldiers and agents.
Mining of Data Prompted Fight Over Warrantless Surveillance
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...serland&
emc=rss
A fierce dispute within the Bush administration in early 2004 over a National Security Agency warrantless surveillance program was related to concerns about the NSA's searches of huge computer databases, the New York Times reported today.
Liberal Activists Step Up Campaign Against FOX News
Sunday, July 29, 2007
http://www.foxnews.com/story/
0,2...,291246,00.html
NEW YORK — Liberal activists are stepping up their campaign against FOX News Channel by pressuring advertisers not to patronize the network. MoveOn.org, the Campaign for America's Future and liberal blogs like DailyKos.com are asking thousands of supporters to monitor who is advertising on the network, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. Once a database is gathered, an organized phone-calling campaign will begin, said Jim Gilliam, vice president of media strategy for Brave New Films, a company that has made anti-FOX videos.The groups have successfully pressured Democratic presidential candidates not to appear at any debate sponsored by FOX, and are also trying to get Home Depot Inc. to stop advertising there. At least 5,000 people across the U.S. have signed up to compile logs on who is running commercials on FOX, Gilliam said. The groups want to first concentrate on businesses running local ads, as opposed to national commercials. "It's a lot more effective for Sam's Diner to get calls from 10 people in his town than going to the consumer complaint department of some pharmaceutical company," Gilliam said. Some of the videos produced by Gilliam's company compile statements made by FOX anchors and guests that the activists consider misleading, such as those that question global warming. Representatives for FOX News Channel did not immediately return calls for comment. Home Depot has not had an unusual number of calls, said spokesman Jerry Shields, and the home improvement chain will not change its advertising strategy. "We're not in the business of censoring media," Shields said. "We need to reach our customer base through all mediums available." Groups like the Sierra Club have targeted Home Depot because they believe it's inconsistent for the company to promote environmentally friendly products while advertising on a network that has questioned global warming. The groups seem particularly angry at FOX's Bill O'Reilly, who has done critical reports on left-wing bloggers. On July 16, O'Reilly said the DailyKos.com Web site is "hate of the worst order," and sent a reporter to question JetBlue Airways Corp. CEO Dave Barger about the airline's sponsorship of a gathering run by DailyKos. He'll never ride on JetBlue again, O'Reilly said. FOX said JetBlue has since asked that its name be removed from the DailyKos.com Web site. MoveOn.org is campaigning against FOX because it says the network characterizes itself as a fair news network when it consistently favors a conservative point of view, said Adam Green, the organization's spokesman. "We're not trying to silence anybody," Green said. "(Conservative radio talk show host) Rush Limbaugh has a right to be on the air — he admits his point of view. FOX doesn't."
[Disclaimer:] FOX News is owned by News Corp., the parent company of FOXNews.com
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Let me repeat the sentence in this FOXNews.com article:
"Representatives for FOX News Channel did not immediately return calls for comment."
And then...
"FOX News is owned by News Corp., the parent company of FOXNews.com"
Priceless!
How a district attorney can legally abuse children
http://freestudents.blogspot.com...ally-
abuse.html
Students in a Oregon school routinely swatted each other on the butt. But two have been singled out for prosecution and face the potetial of prison time and being registered as sex offenders. Here are the facts, including the prosecutor ’s defense of his actions and what you can do about this injustice.
I know that living in it can make one blind to it. But looking from outside with a bigger perspective america is already a military dictatorship people just dont know it yet because fox news tels them everything is a-ok.
Its not a-ok friends you never had any support from the rest of the world to invade iraq it was a lie there was big protests all over the world, they used your good name to comit war crimes torture etc. the world is looking at america with dicust and laughter at it, but its a nervus laughter America is a giant and when it falls it will shake us all. I just cant belive you culd let it go so far its incredible you where once my heroes the beacon of freedom and justice in the world and in 10 years its all down the drain you will be free once again all dictators fall, maybe it will be a good lesson for all the sheep living in a dream, creating their own reality. my hart is with all you patriots though you dont deserve this
>>>HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Ledeen v. Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is from 2003!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same shit they started doing with Senator Wellstone before they executed him and his family in a sacrificial rite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Ledeen is one of the wizards wt American Enterprise Institute that is a key suspect in the 3,000 deaths of American citizens on 9/11/2001, the over 10,000 American soldiers that have already died in Iraq and Afghanistan, the over 1,000,000 Ameriucan soldiers that will slow bleed from DU, PTSD, and other nasty Ledeen inspired war wounds, the over 1,000,000 dead innocent women and children in Iraq, the over 1,000,000 Ledeen policy inspired muslim prostitutes, and the over 5,000,000 displaced.
Here is Ledeen's article in 2003 about Dr. Ron Paul, anyone now wonder who the real traitors to the constitution are????
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Dishonorable Congressman
RE: Ron Paul.
http://www.nationalreview.com/
le...edeen091003.asp
In July 10, Ron Paul, a congressman from Texas, delivered a tirade against his version of neoconservatism. He called it "Neo-Conned!" and he posted it on his website and had it distributed as best he could. A considerable part of it is devoted to his version of my writings, and is so inaccurate, so distorted, and so nasty, as to make me wish once again that this country had a decent libel law so that I could at least get some money from him and give him a healthy dose of the public humiliation he deserves. Unfortunately, members of Congress are protected from such suits. We've exchanged a few e-mails, and the best he could come up with was a generic "if I've gotten it wrong, I'm sorry," which is clearly not good enough from a man who accuses me of advocating the very opposite of what I have clearly written. He makes me into an advocate of big government, when I wrote Freedom Betrayed, a book that calls for open revolution against expanding governmental power. He brands me an advocate of military invasion of Iran, when I've written scores of articles and a good chunk of a well-known book, The War Against the Terror Masters, that explicitly defines military action against Iran a mistake. I want political action.
He takes many of my descriptions of Machiavelli's thought (from my Machiavelli on Modern Leadership) and turns them — often in distorted form — into my own advocacy. It's hard to explain to someone who doesn't read very well that there's a difference between authors and the subjects they write about. And he hasn't bothered to read my Tocqueville on American Character, in which I discuss the urgency of combating centralized state power and the centrality of human freedom in modern conflict.
The worst of Ron Paul's diatribe is his total sliming of all those he calls neocons. He says that, among other crazy and dangerous beliefs they (and therefore I): accept the notion that the ends justify the means; express no opposition to the welfare state; believe pertinent facts about how a society should be run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not have the courage to deal with it; hold Leo Strauss in high esteem; say that 9/11 resulted from the like of foreign entanglements, not from too many; endorse attacks on civil liberties, such as those in the Patriot Act; unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party. The last is the usual garbage from extremists who don't like Jews. The rest are wrong. The "ends and means" nonsense isn't even Machiavelli, although Paul thinks it is. He says "there is a recognized philosophic connection between modern-day neoconservatives and Irving Kristol, Leo Strauss, and Machiavelli." More nonsense. In fact, when Irving Kristol commented on my Machiavelli book, he went out of his way to criticize me for writing on such a subject, because he felt so negatively about Machiavelli.
The heart of Paul's attack on me is this paragraph:
In Ledeen's most recent publication, The War Against the Terror Masters, he reiterates his beliefs outlined in this 1999 Machaivelli book. He specifically praises: "Creative destruction…both within our own society and abroad…(foreigners) seeing America undo traditional societies may fear us, for they do not wish to be undone." Amazingly, Ledeen concludes: "They must attack us in order to survive, just as we must destroy them to advance our historic mission." If those words don't scare you, nothing will? He conveniently leaves out the context, which is a discussion of the basic conflict between us and the terror masters: a conflict between freedom and tyranny. I argue, as I argued during the Cold War with regard to Communism, and as I argued in my books on fascism earlier, that the conflict between America and tyrants is inevitable. It stems from the very nature of America, from our unique freedom and creativity, which has often been described as "creative destruction." Every serious writer about America has noticed the amazing speed with which we scrap old ideas, technologies, art forms and even the use of the English language. And it's obvious that more rigid societies, particularly those governed by tyrants, are frightened by the effects and the appeal of freedom on their own subjects. Our existence threatens them, undermines their legitimacy, and subverts their power. Therefore "they must attack us in order to survive," and, sooner or later, we must confront them and, I hope and trust, defeat them in order to advance our mission of spreading freedom. It should embarrass Congressman Paul to publicly expose himself as an ignoramus and a fool, and if he had the integrity he so loudly proclaims in his own behalf, he would have quietly apologized. But no; he just offers a weasely e-mail. A final point: Paul's accusations are not simply political disagreements, and his language is not merely critical. He is trying to demonize an entire group of people. He says we are not only wrong, but morally evil and an active danger to American society and the peace of the world. His attack, like those coming from the likes of Pat Buchanan and extremists on the other end of the political spectrum (look at David Frum's recent encounter with some of my leftist attackers), are incitements to personal violence. And this self-proclaimed libertarian hides behind the skirts of the very nanny state he so loudly deplores. If we had a libel law worthy of the name, he'd either quickly correct his statements and apologize to those he's libeled, or find himself looking for the money to pay the damages he has certainly incurred.— Michael Ledeen, an NRO contributing editor, is most recently the author of The War Against the Terror Masters. Ledeen is resident Scholar in the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute.
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Dr. Ron Paul wrote about these fuckers back in 2003 and Ledeen felt he had authority back then to show how the neo-con stand of giving up liberty for freedom and killing for peace was right and just and american.
Well almost 4 years later, let us see who is the honorable congressman and who is the mass murdering war criminal and traitor to this beautiful country!
Apple and AT&T a marriage made in hell?
http://www.itwire.com.au/content...ent/view/13746/
When Steve Jobs gave the stage at Macworld to the CEO of Cingular Stan Sigman to announce the Apple-AT&T collaboration, it seemed an unlikely marriage. Jobs in jeans and long sleeved black T-shirt and Sigman in his suit reading from cue cards. Are signs emerging that it was a marriage made in hell? AT&T sales staff don't seem to want to sell iPhone
>>>Action Alert: Executive Order signed July 17th could affect YOU!
http://www.opednews.com/
articles...t_3a__execu.htm
If you think this EO applies only to those who have committed or intend to commit acts of violence, then read the words again: It applies to any person who poses "a significant risk of committing an act of violence." Who would that be?It is an affront to common sense and a travesty of justice to punish people for crimes they did not commit
Bush to Congress: Trust me, we will only spy on foreigners
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com...calls-on-
c.html
Bush is calling on Congress to "modernize" FISA because terrorists use disposable cell phones and the Internet.
YouTube preps video fingerprinting
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20070....9RiILlk1ojtBAF
Google Inc.'s YouTube hopes recognition technology will be in place in September to stop the posting of copyrighted videos on the popular Web site, a lawyer Friday told a judge presiding over copyright lawsuits.
Ron Paul: Protecting Your Tax Dollars
http://principledpolitics.blogsp...ax-
dollars.html
What will Ron Paul do to protect your money? Will he deny a friend a prestigious award? Will he donate his money? Will he stand alone for what is right? Watch...and find out.
HOW CAN ANYONE DEFEND THE 800 CONCENTRATION CAMPS
HOW FAR HAVE WE GONE????
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 10:21 am | #
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I agre the camps are scary, and shuld wake everyone up they are not building them for fun.
Ron Paul - San Antonio Rally
http://www.mysanantonio.com/
news...ok.31d8592.html
In a brief speech to more than 200 supporters, Paul, a physician, called for abolishing the income tax and the Federal Reserve system, getting out of the United Nations and pulling troops from Iraq.
what i remember the most was the fear of sniches, you culdnt trust your family friends or even your own kids,
Lars | 07.29.07 - 10:15 am | #
WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE
they are gonna crash the market/cheney will issue the false flag/bird flu keeps popping up
It does not matter how
THERE SHOULD NEVER BE CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN THE US!
Please show me in the constitution where it says we need concentration camps
HOW CAN ANYONE DEFEND THE 800 CONCENTRATION CAMPS
HOW FAR HAVE WE GONE????
Paul Beats Romney, Giuliani and McCain
http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/r...aul-beats-
.html
Today, Ron Paul received more votes in the Georgetown County (South Carolina) Republican Party presidential primary straw poll than did Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani and John McCain. Congressman Paul was second in the poll. Fred Thompson placed first.
According to a press release issued today by Georgetown County Republican Chairman Tom Swatzel, there were 223 total votes cast. He said, "For our first ever straw poll, I am pleased with the turn out. It was an enthusiastic crowd that was the essence of grassroots politics at its best."
Romney's economic record - The Boston Globe
http://www.boston.com/news/globe...conomic_record/
AS MITT ROMNEY pursues his bid for the presidency, his record as Massachusetts governor will come under scrutiny, including how the state's economy performed during his administration. Our analysis reveals a weak comparative economic performance of the state over the Romney years, one of the worst in the country.
You can foget any thing about ellections, unions etc. only few people had tellephones, there was work for every one even tho you had 5 people doing the job of one if u didnt work or go to school you wuld disapher, any free thinker peole with higher education where closely monitored. what i remember the most was the fear of sniches, you culdnt trust your family friends or even your own kids, and the mille long ques for toilet paper and bread. But this was all long time ago and werry low tech i cant even imagine what its gonna be like in us with all the high tech hardware cameras. drones, micro chips etc. Well America always does anything bigger and bether damn. from what i hear you wont even be able to hide in the forests with metal detectors wires and treetop cameras being set up there to, I pray for you my friends
Amputations bring health crisis to Iraq
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/
w...2137035,00.html
Peter Beaumont in Mosul Sunday July 29, 2007The Observer
Iraq is facing a hidden healthcare and social crisis over the soaring number of amputations, largely of lower limbs, necessitated by the daily explosions and violence gripping the country. In the north of Iraq, the Red Crescent Society and the director general for health services in Mosul have told US forces, there is a requirement for up to 3,000 replacement limbs a year. If that estimate is applied across the country, it suggests an acute and looming long-term health challenge that has been largely ignored by the world.
I was just a kid back then but here is what i remember: we had russian troops with tanks and machine guns in the streets, talking to them or even looking at them was a no no, you shuld always cary your papers on you, no right to guns no right to leave the country, food and every essential you shuld have stams for you got a sheet each month with so many stamps and and if there was anny you culd only buy so and do much bread, milk etc. the police had special rights like bether food and housing. all religion was banned and churches closed. sniches everywhere parrents afraid of their own kids might say something in shool. people disaphear in the night. i especialy remember one time i woke up in the night and went to the kitchen to get a glass of wather i found my father sitting there listening to a scrambled radio station (radio bbc) he quickly jumped on hes feet grabed me i culd se the fear in his eyes he held me tight and told me i was never to say anything to anyone about this or they wuld take him and my mum. wather and electicity was cut at random during the day, i`ll write more as i come to think of it, need to take a litle break my son is hungry be back in a few :P
Lars | 07.29.07 - 10:00 am | #
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Please share as many stories as possible, they may mean nothing to you, but to us they may be our salvation!
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
you forget one thing sane stock pilling any thing will be a crime and make you the first targert. just a word of advice i lived with martial law for 10 years in polland
Lars | 07.29.07 - 9:40 am |
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Thank you Lars.
I have a huge amount of respect for people who have already been through what we, by all indications, will be facing soon.
How are you doing now ?
God bless you and keep posting friend
Coming up next: The human sensor web
http://www.ogleearth.com/2007/
07...ng_up_next.html
Suddenly it is all so clear: The next big corporate race is going to be getting the biggest mobile crowdsourcing network. Mobile location-aware communications devices will make great georeferenced information collection networks, perfect for data-mining. The corporate challenge: Building, buying or otherwise gaining access to such a network.
Cops vs. Nazis in german anti-fascism protest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...h?
v=oXNqJSTv1BQ
Like the title says... interesting video
please share as much as you can because it is obviously coming
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 9:48 am | #
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I was just a kid back then but here is what i remember: we had russian troops with tanks and machine guns in the streets, talking to them or even looking at them was a no no, you shuld always cary your papers on you, no right to guns no right to leave the country, food and every essential you shuld have stams for you got a sheet each month with so many stamps and and if there was anny you culd only buy so and do much bread, milk etc. the police had special rights like bether food and housing. all religion was banned and churches closed. sniches everywhere parrents afraid of their own kids might say something in shool. people disaphear in the night. i especialy remember one time i woke up in the night and went to the kitchen to get a glass of wather i found my father sitting there listening to a scrambled radio station (radio bbc) he quickly jumped on hes feet grabed me i culd se the fear in his eyes he held me tight and told me i was never to say anything to anyone about this or they wuld take him and my mum. wather and electicity was cut at random during the day, i`ll write more as i come to think of it, need to take a litle break my son is hungry be back in a few :P
Does Jeff Gannon Run LittleGreenFootballs?
http://cindysbeentrippin.com/blog/?p=46
Just ran across this blog, looks pretty big. LGF sure have his psuedoconservative scare the masses with terrorism sham down while they slam anyone that doesn ’t goose step a long with the Bush / Cheney failed ideology. I bet they’ve never mentioned how Rudy Giuliani likes to dress as a woman before...
FIGHT THE POWER:
http://www.ufovideo.net
Wonder if it was a server problem or Spook Hackers why PrisonPlanet vanished?!?
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Gravel Exhibits True Courage
http://cdnfreepress.zakyoung.com...&id=82&
Itemid=3
Mike Gravel demonstrates leadership and bravery on the presidential campaign trail.
is it me or was prision planet hacked last night by the people who own wikipidea and possible other crooks
tom | 07.29.07 - 9:41 am | #
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If it was hacked by wiki agents then PP is about to get the biggest jump in free marketing, nothing promotes a site more than when one piece of the internet ostensibly and recklessly tried to dominate another.
wiki dudes, do it again and again....
10,000,000 new net users will be drawn to PP wondering why wiki even gives a shit
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 9:51 am | #
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First they ignore you...
then they ridicule you...
then they fight you...
then you win.
-Gandhi
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http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi...cgi?
read=106835
This is good advice! Found it somewhere yesterday! That list sane, I got yesterday is imcomplete alittle, it forgot food! Plus, a crank weather radio with ablities to charge cell phone is good to get too. Plus rope, duct tape too.
is it me or was prision planet hacked last night by the people who own wikipidea and possible other crooks
tom | 07.29.07 - 9:41 am | #
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If it was hacked by wiki agents then PP is about to get the biggest jump in free marketing, nothing promotes a site more than when one piece of the internet ostensibly and recklessly tried to dominate another.
wiki dudes, do it again and again....
10,000,000 new net users will be drawn to PP wondering why wiki even gives a shit
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good 2 c the site is backup
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...7martiallaw.htm
This needs to be spread widely and fast! IF thiis dont wake sheeple up NOTHING WILL! IF this doesn't scare the HELL out of every American NOTHING FUCKING WILL!
you forget one thing sane stock pilling any thing will be a crime and make you the first targert. just a word of advice i lived with martial law for 10 years in polland
Lars | 07.29.07 - 9:40 am | #
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You need to educate us, just expose wildly what it is like under martial law.
what is it like on the streets, talking with friends, family
public spaces
phone calls
gun laws
walking with papers
elections
food distribution
power outages
missing people
please share as much as you can because it is obviously coming
Truther i like you bether without the swearing bro :P i can uderstand you`re mad though im not even in usa and im freaked out,
How the Electoral College Works
http://people.howstuffworks.com/...ral-
college.htm
After the 2000 U.S. presidential election, just about everybody in the United States was talking about the Electoral College. In the end, of course, Gore won the popular vote (more Americans voted for him), but Bush actually won the presidency, because he was awarded the majority of the votes in the Electoral College.
Anybody know how Ed and wife are? I pray they are OK! How did someone here know shots have been fired?
Ron Paul vs Patriot Act
http://www.peekvids.com/ron-paul...vs-patriot-act/
Presidential candidate Ron Paul discusses the pitfalls of the Patriot Act.
you forget one thing sane stock pilling any thing will be a crime and make you the first targert. just a word of advice i lived with martial law for 10 years in polland
Lars
A BIG FUCK THE GOV"T! If they think I or my family is going to starve or do without they can GO FUCK THEMSELVES PERIOD! And I will NOT be forced to take the "Mark of Beast" either without a fucking huge fight!
is it me or was prision planet hacked last night by the people who own wikipidea and possible other crooks
you forget one thing sane stock pilling any thing will be a crime and make you the first targert. just a word of advice i lived with martial law for 10 years in polland
Prisonplanet up and running
(TIME) Giuliani To Skip YouTube Debates
http://www.time.com/time/
printou...1647805,00.html
The Rudy Giuliani campaign has cited scheduling conflicts in saying it will skip the Republican version of this week's Democratic debate, while Mitt Romney has mocked the seriousness of the questions and also seems likely to withdraw.
The Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency
http://baconreport.blogspot.com/...rst-
during.html
1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.)
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
More...
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Of course thanks to bush the real first things to go are the constitution and the bill of rights!
NY Times calls for the impeachment of Alberto Gonzales
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...igg&
exprod=digg
Americans have been waiting months for President Bush to fire Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who long ago proved that he was incompetent and more recently has proved that he can't tell the truth.
Iraq war veteran kills self after VA denies psychiatric help
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Sat...icle%
2FShowFull
This is how the Bush Administration supports our troops....23-year-old Jeffrey Lucey killed himself after he returned from a tour of duty in Iraq, asked for treatment of mental problems and was denied by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.
Action alert
BREAKING: Twin Towers Actually Brought Down By Planes and Fire
http://www.popularmechanics.com/...aw/
1227842.html
The conspiracy theorists have let their flawed logic and painful gaps in reason show on Digg, now it's time to fight back against mindless conjectures. If you're of the sane group of people who believe what actual science, the experts, and the processes of millions of rational minds have already concluded, then digg this. 9/11 wasn't an inside job.
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i challenge anyone to find anything in that post that is real and not a "mind control" induced "fact"
9/11 Victim's Family Member Demands News Coverage, Brings Story to Media
http://www.jonesreport.com/
artic..._911_media.html
During a rally cry for more groups within the anti-war movement to help expose 9/11 truth, Manny Badillo, whose uncle, Thomas J. Sgroi, died in the WTC Towers on September 11, took time out to bullhorn a local news van in attempt to persuade greater news coverage of 9/11 truth. How could you blame victim's families for wanting real answers?
WACO: The Big Lie/ ATF agent shoots at 3 ATF former Clinton bodyguards.
http://video.google.com/
videopla...116450757675658
Great video and explanation of what happened at WACO April 19, 1993. See an ATF agent apparently throw a grenade and fire into the building after 3 other agents had just entered. The 3 were former Clinton bodyguards and were 3 or the 4 agents killed during the raid.
Google" account security" - In favor of the hacker?! - This may shock you.
http://geekishrantings.blogspot....n-favor-
of.html
Some of you may be familiar with how Google account security works, I unfortunately, was not. A hacker is having a little party in my Google account right now, but what is worse, is just how EASY Google makes hostile ACCOUNT TAKE-OVER (for the hacker) & how helpless you will be, if this ever happens to you. Read this and protect yourself!
The EU constitution is back and more dangerous than ever!
http://infowars.com/articles/
nwo...s_than_ever.htm
Do you remember the European Constitution? Yes, the one rejected by the French and Dutch? That same European Constitution on which the Labour Government promised the British people a referendum before the last General Election?
Google Sued to De-list Scientology Critics' Site
http://www.chillingeffects.org/d...gi?
NoticeID=232
Don't hate Scientology they will sue ya, or worse. The site in question was www.xenu.net
Smoking Gun Leads to Oval Office
http://thelibertysphere.blogspot...val-
office.html
Important and shocking facts have surfaced within the last few days that may indicate high level corruption at the Bush White House. These facts may well lead straight to the Oval Office itself.
Breaking News! Ed & Elaine Brown Fired Upon.
http://patriotessdame.wordpress....&day=2007-07-
28
Red Alert! Shots Fired! Ed & Elaine Brown under attack around 11:45 PM eastern time Saturday night. This was not a drill, 20-30 shots were fired near the duck pond on their property. No one was injured.
>>Cheney determined to strike in US with WMD this summer; only impeachment and removal, or a general strike, can stop him
By Webster G. Tarpley
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/
...icle_2220.shtml
The greatest threat now is “a 9/11 occurring with a group of terrorists armed not with airline tickets and box cutters, but with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities.” --Dick Cheney on Face the Nation, CBS, April 15, 2007
A few days ago, a group of lawyers from western Massachusetts met with the local congressman, Democrat John Olver. Their request was that Olver take part in the urgent effort to impeach Bush and Cheney. Olver responded by saying that he had no intention of doing anything to support impeachment. He went further, offering the information that the United States would soon attack Iran, and that these hostilities would be followed by the imposition of a martial law regime here.
According to reports in the British press, the Cheney war party has gained the upper hand in the secret councils of the Bush White House, pushing aside the purported hesitations of Miss Rice, Secretary Gates, and the NATO allies to chart a direct course towards war with Iran:
‘The balance in the internal White House debate over Iran has shifted back in favour of military action before President George Bush leaves office in 18 months, the Guardian has learned. The shift follows an internal review involving the White House, the Pentagon and the state department over the last month. Although the Bush administration is in deep trouble over Iraq, it remains focused on Iran. A well-placed source in Washington said: "Bush is not going to leave office with Iran still in limbo." . . . at a meeting of the White House, Pentagon and state department last month, Mr Cheney expressed frustration at the lack of progress and Mr Bush sided with him. "The balance has tilted. There is cause for concern," the source said this week. . . ."Cheney has limited capital left, but if he wanted to use all his capital on this one issue, he could still have an impact," said Patrick Cronin, the director of studies at the International Institute for Strategic Studies.’ (“Cheney pushes Bush to act on Iran; Military solution back in favour as Rice loses out; President 'not prepared to leave conflict unresolved',” Guardian, July 16, 2007.)
Deluded supporters of the Democratic Party may soon have to throw away their pathetic countdown clocks, those self-consoling little devices that remind them of how much time remains until noon on January 20, 2009, the moment when it is thought that Bush will finally leave office. These countdown clocks make no provision for the Cheney doctrine, which calls for a new super 9/11 with weapons of mass destruction in the US, to be used as the pretext for a nuclear attack on Iran and for martial law at home. Those who think the Republicans cannot hold the White House in 2008 have forgotten that neocons always prefer a coup d’etat to an election. As Cheney told Bob Schieffer of CBS’s Face the Nation on April 15, 2007: ‘The greatest threat now is “a 9/11 occurring with a group of terrorists armed not with airline tickets and box cutters, but with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities.”’
Pelosi and Reid need to toss out their fatuous countdown clocks, and get out their impeachment stopwatches -- fast.
Chertoff’s gut feeling for terrorism
Integral to the Cheney strategy has always been to orchestrate a climate of public terror. As Cheney told WLS in Chicago on Friday April 13: "It’s important that people remember 9/11.”
Nine-eleven remains the basis of every one of Cheney’s intrigues. One of Cheney’s terror facilitators in this sense is Michael Chertoff, the cadaverous secretary of Homeland Security. Although an experienced bureaucrat, Chertoff is now contemplating his navel as he searches for new ways to intimidate the American people, who have essentially no natural enemies at all, into the hallucination that they face an acute existential threat of being wiped out from one moment to the next. Chertoff told the editorial board of the Chicago Tribune -- once the voice of isolationism -- that the US faces an increased danger of attack in the summer of 2007. This wild fabrication, not based on any specific information of any kind that he could cite, Chertoff called his "gut feeling . . . the nation faces a heightened chance of an attack this summer.” "I believe we are entering a period this summer of increased risk," said Chertoff. "Summertime seems to be appealing to them. . . . We worry that they are rebuilding their activities."
The desperate demagogues of the Republican Party are facing a hecatomb at the polls in November 2008. Their idea seems to be that of the fascist Prime Minister Aznar of Spain in March 2004: if you are sure to lose an election, stage a terror attack, declare martial law, and perpetuate your power that way. Aznar was stopped by a general strike of about one third of the entire Spanish people. If all else fails, would Americans be capable of a mass strike against war and dictatorship? We may soon find out.
Chertoff’s troubled gut has already given rise to a White House interagency group of top intelligence and law enforcement functionaries that meets every Friday afternoon at 1 p.m. Will this committee run the coup? Reports followed of dozens of FBI agents fanning out to pursue a “worry list” of some 700 alleged leads, including 100 in the New York area. Some of these derived from the recent British terror stunts in London and Glasgow used by MI-5 and MI-6 to smooth the transition from the Tony Blair quasi-police state to the Gordon Brown version of the same thing.
MI-5 and MI-6 displayed the same mixture of comic ineptitude and phlegmatic homicide which was their hallmark during the long years when London was the prey of bombs by the “Irish Republican Army,” now revealed to have been top-heavy with government intelligence agents who called the shots. The Glasgow airport event consisted of a burning car crashed into a building, the films of which were shown all afternoon the by the US cable news networks. One was tempted to propose a caption: “Only one burning car -- a good day on the Cross-Bronx Expressway.” Yet for one burning car, the world was supposed to stop. These British events had been preceded by several weeks of hysteria about allegedly looming terror attacks against US installations in the Rhein-Main area of Germany, featuring the Wiesbaden spa, all based on CIA claims made to the government in Berlin and relentlessly trumpeted through the controlled media.
Anything on Fox news ? Or any other News ?
I am going to notify Link TV
A UN official has said soldiers from countries whose armies are suspected of torture and abuse should not be considered for peacekeeping operations.
sane | Homepage | 07.29.07 - 9:12 am | #
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That rulles out the US. To think the bastards use torture in our name
UN requires 'better' peacekeepers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/
6920867.stm
A UN official has said soldiers from countries whose armies are suspected of torture and abuse should not be considered for peacekeeping operations.
American Evangelicals Issue Letter in Support of a Palestinian State
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...=rssnyt&
emc=rss
Leaders sent a letter to President Bush saying that both Israelis and Palestinians have “legitimate rights stretching back for millennia to the lands of Israel/Palestine,” and that they support the creation of a Palestinian state “that includes the vast majority of the West Bank.”
Ed & Elaine Brown
401 Center of Town Road
Plainfield, New Hampshire 03781
Get to the Browns house now!
If you are unable, use this list below, call them and dont stop calling!
Please flood the phones and do not stop till good things start to happen.
1: Sullivan County, NH (Plainfield is located here) Sheriff Michael Prozzo -- 603-863-4200
Please call the sheriff's office and urge him to act under his authority as the supreme law enforcement official in Sullivan County. He is the only elected law enforcement "official" and has the authority to tell the feds to back off. But so far he hasn't done anything but hide from this whole matter. Urge him to do something RIGHT NOW!!!
2: New Hampshire State Governor John Lynch -- 603-271-2121
Please call Gov. Lynch's office right now! They will likely try to skirt the issue and tell you to call the U.S. Marshall's office. Don't let them off the hook! Tell them that the GOVERNOR is supposed to have the authority over New Hampshire -- not the feds!!! Ed does not live on federal land! Ed is not under federal jurisdiction! Plainfield isn't on federal land, the county isn't, and the state isn't. The feds have no business there. The governor could act to stop it and keep the feds out. As with the sheriff, so far he has not!!! Call and tell them HE ABSOLUTELY MUST EXERCISE HIS AUTHORITY AND STOP THE FEDS.
3: The U.S. Marshall's office: 603-225-1632
Please call and tell them they have no authority, no business, and should immediately stop the violent actions they are taking against the Browns. They will likely ask for your name and number -- that's what they asked from me -- you can give it to them if you'd like, or not if you don't want to -- but don't be scared of these guys. Get your message that this should be resolved without the continued use of violence and the threat of violence. Tell them we are watching!
OTHER NUMBERS TO CONTACT:
Sullivan County Sheriff's Office14 Main St.P.O. Box 27Newport, NH 03773
PH 603.863.4200
FAX 603.863.0012
Representative Matthew S. Houde
Home Address:Matthew S. HoudeP.O. Box 66Meriden, NH 03770-0066Phone: (603)504-2744
matthewhoude@yahoo.comBusiness Address:Vermont Law SchoolChelsea St., PO Box 96S. Royalton, VT 05068Phone: (802)831-1241
Representative Carla M. Skinder
Carla M. Skinder465 East RoadCornish, NH 03745-4433Phone: (603)542-6065Phone: (603)543-6895FAX: (603)863-
8383cskinder@vrh.orgcarla.skinder@leg.state.nh.us
Senator Peter Hoe BurlingSenate Office:Statehouse107 N. Main St., Room 105Concord, N.H. 03301(603) 271-2642
peter.burling@leg.state.nh.usHome:20 Lang RoadCornish, N.H. 03745-4209(603) 675-6255
Governor LynchOffice of the GovernorState House25 Capitol StreetConcord, NH 03301(603)271-2121(603)271-7680 (fax)
http://edbrownvlog.blogspot.com/
30 to 40 rounds fired behind the house noise heard in the woods every one is at battle stations this in not a drill i repeat this in not a drill.
Danny
http://www.wtprn.com/listen.shtml
Sane - did you ever post on the Yahoo news comments section ?
kells | 07.29.07 - 1:09 am | #
nope, dont know how
you mean our lovin beast like police wuld harm them? lets all pray for Ed an Eline
Why the f... is the site down? is it the loving feds or just technical problems?
Thought Criminal
Don't know but Propaganda matrix site is up and it ALWAYS mirrors Prison planet! I haven't seen any info about Ed there yet! I PRAY they don't murder Ed and wife and make NO mistake about it, IT WILL BE MURDER!
Iraqi Political Cartoonist, Family Killed
http://www.iraqslogger.com/
index...t_Family_Killed
Chalabi-Allied Cartoonist and 11 Family Members Among Car Bomb Victims
Bush Blocks Efforts At Stem Cells Without Harming Embryos
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml?
hpid=topnews
Iraqi PM May Ask Washington To Withdraw Petraeus
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...aq-hot-tempers/
Why the f... is the site down? is it the loving feds or just technical problems?
FBI: Gang Activity In Military "Threat To National Security"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/
2...tr=HOME_3107316
this is the dude that the neocons credit for their inspiration for O.B.E.
clinton referenced this dude for helping muelers inspiration and corroberation
baldmanace
Please explain what O.B.E. is for us who might not know, OK? Muelers, too?
Propaganda matrix website is up and running but nothing on Ed or wife! Go to www.propagandamatrix.com
kells, Email me OK? I pray Ed Brown and family are OK! Pray for them!
cant read story on disinfo agents getting aforbidden 403 whats going on?
noplacebo | 07.29.07 - 3:24 am | # i keep getting 403 too. Can't get on prison Planet.
cant read story on disinfo agents getting aforbidden 403 whats going on?
we go to war!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.crystalinks.com/
djwha...djwhalkhul.html
this is the dude that the neocons credit for their inspiration for O.B.E.
clinton referenced this dude for helping muelers inspiration and corroberation
FIGHT THE POWER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h?v=jym-
RtHHG0s
i love rap
but like chris rock
i hate defending it all
but this is top shelf
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=0
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=0
god you gotta love al pacino
if only he would run for president
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=0
this is exactly how i feel about if they are hitting ed brown
and also
if they are hitting prison planet
post all around...
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...ad-545/
#respond
infowars is still kickin?
its on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PRISON PLANET IS DOWN - THEY ARE GOING AFTER THE BROWNS - THIS IS PROBABLY A HIT
i am also getting a 403 forbidden error on prison planet?
any explainations yet?
Sometimes, you have to press for your rights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=-
eREiQhBDIk
Katrina: 'Citizens died because US refused aid'
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
Re...reign_0727.html
British source tells of CIA torture
http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...37144%
2C00.html
Iraqi MI5 agent gives the first ever account of 'extraordinary rendition.'
Here is how to organize the 911 truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...related&
search=
More fun taxpayer dollars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h?v=pz0XNGJ-
ep8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h?
v=2XK_WAy1wCI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h?v=lSXWsRMX-
j0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...related&
search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...HZWxtuN8MI&
NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...related&
search=
When I try to access PP this is the message I get:
You are not authorized to view this page
You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied.
WTF ? This has never happened before.
update from Brown's friend Danny,
the shots were fired about an hour and a half were fired. Shots were fired from treeline at the Brown's home. So a reckon was sent out and there is still movement in the trees from authority groups, however, the firing has desisted for now.
Ed Brown is telling everyone to remain calm and they are in a defensive posture having fallen back to the house.
So it is a wait and see, but they think so far it is a test of their reactions rather than THE attack - or at least so they are hoping.
Everybody help Ron Paul in Iowa now that the two big candidates are out lets bump it up a notch. Find out from your local RP meetup group what you can do.
Here is a good example of the moral integrity of Law enforcement today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...related&
search=
Scary shit if true, I hope they get through it in one piece, brave souls that they are.
Biggs | 07.29.07 - 1:20 am |
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Thats terrible, thanks for the update.
We need to pray and now, they are brave souls for sure.
That song reminded me of a post about Nana on the old Yahoo site.
Anyway - if you really like that song , please check out a singer named Nana Mouskouri.
You won't be disappointed .
I just heard Ed and Elaine Brown are under attack, I do not know if true but the message reads as below and can be found here: -
http://edbrownvlog.blogspot.com/
I also heard that infowars and PP have been down in the last hour.
Message on Brown's vlog site: -
==============================
30 to 40 rounds fired behind the house noise heard in the woods every one is at battle stations this in not a drill i repeat this in not a drill.
Danny
http://truthorlies.org/listenlive.html
==============================
Scary shit if true, I hope they get through it in one piece, brave souls that they are.
Here is one place you can go to get some 911 truth videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...h?
v=3TKrMbM0K6E
Sane - did you ever post on the Yahoo news comments section ?
My home growing up was alot like this.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the 911 truth anthem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G...h?
v=Gs37NSLy3z4
Here is something you can still do, in America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A...h?v=AoFB4-
5MLN0
I take my hat off to this guy. A true man of steel. Not one drop spilt, 5 beer chug.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O...GcybZgljfE&
NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...related&
search=
This pure evil bastard needs to hang and have his neck stretched and be sent to Gitmo for what he has done to America and Libermann also and Pelosi too ALL of whom are laughing about NO WMD"S! ALL are fucking traitors! Including the crowd who is there also! MOTHERFUCKING TRAITORS! They ALL fucking ALL are out and out traitors! PERIOD! IF every American is NOT TOTALLY PISSED OFF OVER THIS, THEY ARE UNAMERICAN AS HELL! AND WATCH FUCKING "NUKE IRAN FOR ISRAEL" LIARMANN TOO! I HATE HIM TOO! He needs to go back to fucking Israel where the treasonous bastard belongs since he doesn't give a FUCK ABOUT AMERICA!
Here is a man who viewed a copy of "Loose Change" and felt brisk about it.
Then he went to Congress to "sort it out".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h?
v=5q9kYKtvYU0
What really Happened website:
Report details US refusals of foreign aid after Katrina
A new report reveals the US government turned down offers of help from across the globe in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, telling one diplomat "human assistance of any kind is not on our priorities list."
"A review of the State Department documents reveals distressing ineptitude," CREW's executive director Melanie Sloan said in a prepared statement. "Countries were trying to donate desperately needed goods and services, but as a result of bureaucratic bungling and indifference, those most in need of these generous offers and of aid never received it."
Posted Jul 28, 2007 08:22 AM PST
Category: COVER-UP/DECEPTIONS
It's always comforting to know just how expendable the people of this country are to this administration.
What really happened is one of best websites on net! Moderator, if you would post stuff the 1st damn time, I would not be typing this twice!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...mail/
components
Fuck Bush for this! And every other treasonous Motherfucking thing he does too! I hope he burns in HELL and then some!
Here is what it is like when you approach someone with a copy of "Loose Change".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...related&
search=
Shit | 07.27.07 - 2:29 pm
Don't kid yourself, NOONE had to force Bush into signing that 51 making him a dictator! He has always said he wanted to be one! Globists did NOT have to 'FORCE" him into anything! He wanted to be dictator and IS!
It all really comes down to this, gentlemen.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...related&
search=
On CMT right now, the son in law......
Beatin him up in the mud ,
mud wrestling a fat girl.
funny shit.
i found my country...it is stuck in the movie..."Bobby"
Here is how you order at the drive through.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h?v=FLn45-
7Pn2Y
Dudes. I just fell in love with Macdonalds all over again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...MUb0aQCaz8&
NR=1
Who screams? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h?
v=FJOEA56y7qA
Of course the Royal family is involved. No one is allowed that high up the ladder unless they are 100% committed to the New World Order.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=20673#116124
And how can we call aliens "illegal" when we are still debating whether they exist or not? I mean, there is actually a law that it is illegal to shoot the sasquatch.........
Just picture at the end he screams, "Rothschild!!!!!"
Gabriel Alan King
Who screams?
GAK, How do you figure Pariment was involved in 9-11 too? Or Queen! I have read several places where MI6 was involved too, do you know anything about this? How do you figure Parliment?
You mean the United States of Mexico is in Israel?
card51short, I know what you said and what I am trying to tell you is IF we know for sure and we do that certain people were involved in 9-11 or certain companies, with ties to Mossad like ICTS has and has been involved in 3 out of 4 attacks, we MUST try to find out more about them to 1. STOP the next false flag attacks, then 2. finish waking people up to truth about 9-11! Our 1st job is to make our nation secure! Then we can try to wake gullible asses up! Stopping the next attacks is needed asap, waking more people up takes too much time!
San Francisco: Turn in a gun, get a $100.-$200. gift card
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ ar...eed=rss.bayarea
The public can unload unwanted firearms at San Francisco's Civic Center Plaza today - no questions asked -- and receive $100 to $200 gift cards in return. People who turn in rifles or shotguns will receive a $100 gift card; a revolver or semiautomatic will bring a $150 gift card. Those who bring an assault-type firearm will receive a $200 gift card
sane
How very thoughtful of SF when dual citizenship Chertoff says SF is one of cities possibly hit by bogus "Al-CIA-da' in next attacks! How nice they are trying to disarm the citizens of SF so when Bush declares Marshall Law after next false flag attack those foreign troops or God knows who, can drag the SF citizens out to be taken to one of those 800 FEMA camps!
dude where the fuck is my country????
sane
It's obviously in Israel! I just couldn't resist!
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touche, and without the yelling...Nice!
Illuminati recruiting attempts are not always successful............
Here is an example. 54 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h?
v=kB69pVvLrhk
dude where the fuck is my country????
sane
It's obviously in Israel! I just couldn't resist!
Apparently Nancy Boyda didn't get the Builderberg invitation.........
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 10:52 pm | #
dont think she will be getin it next year either Nice one!
Apparently Nancy Boyda didn't get the Builderberg invitation.........
This is how to do revolution, and succeed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/
Henry_Bowman
"see prescott bush was a jew because his mom was abducted by zionist aliens on the jesuit mothership...HOW COME PP DOES NOT TALK ABOUT THIS!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 10:38 pm | #
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hehe yeah how come?
Just picture at the end he screams, "Rothschild!!!!!"
more truth in the halls of congress
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...h?
v=gS5Y17z91Jc
The common citizens of Russia, and America, and all nations need to ban TOGETHER and prepare to fight the New World Order. Here is some inspiration crew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...?v=FJOEA56y7qA!
This happened thursday in congress and the military industrial complex mainstream media will NOT COMMENT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h?
v=YM8OaUoGxQE
Listen to what truth sounds like in the halls of congress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK who the hell is using GAK's computer????
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 9:51 pm | #
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No shit.........
Henry Bowman | 07.28.07 - 10:36 pm | #
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he is making too much sense, it would be like me saying:
"see prescott bush was a jew because his mom was abducted by zionist aliens on the jesuit mothership...HOW COME PP DOES NOT TALK ABOUT THIS!!!!
Nice song sane! They will probably use it as a soundtrack for the FEMA camp executions DVD! (smile)
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 10:34 pm | #
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I think it will be Carl Orff Carmina Burana
OK who the hell is using GAK's computer????
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 9:51 pm | #
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No shit.........
Chickenhawk Congressman Smears Military Expert
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...michael-turner/
Center for American Progress military expert Lawrence Korb testified before the House Armed Services Committee this morning, challenging escalation proponents to have the courage of their convictions and call for a draft if they would like the surge to continue indefinitely.
One right-wing Ohio Congressman, Michael Turner, desperately tried to smear Korb during his question and answer period. Turner started off his smear attacks against Korb by questioning his credentials to speak before the panel:
TURNER: I was looking at your bio…that incorrectly I believe referred to you as Doctor Korb. And you do not have a PhD.
KORB: I do.
TURNER: You do have a PhD?
After humiliating himself once, Turner next turned his guns on Korb’s prepared written testimony. “I’ve not seen citations like this before the committee,” Turner said, noting that Korb referenced research sources in his statement. Korb said he provided the citations for the lawmakers as a reference point for more information. He noted that Gen. Jack Keane, a co-panelist, “did not have any footnotes. His were all opinions.”
After falling flat in his numerous stabs at Korb, Turner moved onto the next smear. Taking a comment made by Korb completely out of context, Turner asserted that you’ve told us “you’re not a military expert.” Korb responded:
I’ll put my record in terms of scholarship, in terms of analysis of war in terms of military issues up against anybody.
Watch it:
After propagating his false smears, Turner refused to allow Korb time to answer and attempted to flee the committee room quickly. Chairman Ike Skelton (D-MO) told Turner to sit down and listen to Korb’s response.
ThinkProgress contacted Turner’s office for comment on the incident. Andy Bloom, communications director for Turner, told us that Turner has never served in the military and has no substantive military experience. Asked if Turner was participating in a coordinated effort to smear Korb, Bloom said, “I can’t be certain.”
Turner is a classic “chickenhawk,” a term used to refer to strident war proponents who have never personally experienced war. Korb, on the other hand, is a Navy captain who served in Vietnam. He has served in the Pentagon, taught at the Naval War College and Coast Guard Academy, and has twice traveled to Iraq. He recently returned from a 10-day visit to Baghdad (see his dispatch here).
If you wish to contact Turner’s office, you can do so here.
UPDATE: Commenter Midwest Product fine-tunes the definition of “chickenhawk”: “A chickenhawk is someone who ascribes the bravery of soldiers in wartime to themselves because they take a pro-war position.”
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TRAITORS - NO OTHER EXPLANATION!
“No, Mitt, see, it’s this series of tubes…” Romney Confuses MySpace and YouTube
By: Nicole Belle @ 6:31 PM - PDT
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...ce-and-youtube/
Chicago Tribune:
Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney traveled along the Interstate 35 corridor near the site of next month’s straw poll Thursday, promoting his call to try to keep pornography away from children.[..]
Romney earlier in the day said he would encourage computer manufacturers to install internet filtering software on computers sold at retail to help parents protect their children from pornography.
But Romney showed some unfamiliarity with the Internet when he discussed the problem of sexual predators and children.
“YouTube is a website that allows kids to network with one another and make friends and contact each other,” Romney explained. “YouTube looked to see if they had any convicted sex offenders on their web site. They had 29,000.”
Actually, YouTube is the popular site that allows Internet users to upload and watch a variety of videos. The web site, which is owned by search-engine behemoth Google, also was a co-sponsor of the Democratic presidential debate held on Monday night.
The web site MySpace is the one to which Romney actually was referring. MySpace, owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp., said this week it had found 29,000 registered sex offenders who had submitted profiles to its site and removed them.
Hmm….I guess that’s why Mitt refused to commit to the YouTube Debate. By the way, Mitt’s raising a lot of money in Utah (which shouldn’t be too surprising), but he’s also spending a lot of money there too. Guess what on? Mitt bobble-head dolls. I kid you not. Given out to donors who gave more than $96 during a campaign fund drive.
Nice song sane! They will probably use it as a soundtrack for the FEMA camp executions DVD! (smile)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O...related&
search=
missing airliner debris explained.........
Now the politicians try to explain to the truthers about the missing airliner debris...........
29 seconds
"LiveLeak Exclusive Interview with Ron Paul"
I only have two words to say to this: HIT PIECE!!!
What's with the incriminating questions? You almost think this guy was a paid professional who was handed his script.
But then you hear Ron Paul and he lick's 'im and sets 'im straight.
Mmmm......... Tuborg looks tasty! America imports everything! Wish we would import some more good stuff, but that might interfere with certain marketing competitors. I like Guiness though.
Three 911 victims family members closely examine the "content" of the 911 commission report.............
30 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h?
v=Ug75diEyiA0
only problem is you americans dont have any proper beer
Lars | 07.28.07 - 10:16 pm | #
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i doubt you will find any argument to that
but yuenglueng ain'ty bad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuborg
=Proper beer
I have no idea why [don't even know what the frick she is saying], but this song removes every bit of stress from my soul. Just minimize the video, it makes no sense and sit back and listen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...related&
search=
I am making sense because I am dead sober. But that I am about to correct that problem...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h? v=rFcrh2CN5bQ
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 10:13 pm | #
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only problem is you americans dont have any proper beer
I am making sense because I am dead sober. But that I am about to correct that problem...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h?
v=rFcrh2CN5bQ
Here is how I really feel about all you truthers.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...?v=7...related&
search=
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 10:07 pm | #
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Lol nice :P
Sane! A personal thanks from pc for all your diligance and thoughtfullness. Whatever weaknesses I or you have we feel your heart is in the right place.
On this end, we are working nonstop to solve the missing bee problem. ------------
pc | 07.28.07 - 10:07 pm | #
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waterboard the execs at monsanto and GM...problem solved
Here is how I really feel about all you truthers.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...related&
search=
Sane! A personal thanks from pc for all your diligance and thoughtfullness. Whatever weaknesses I or you have we feel your heart is in the right place.
On this end, we are working nonstop to solve the missing bee problem. ------------
I am GAK! I just learned how to post links today. Now I am going to OUTSPAM you!
And there is something you should know......
I am not left handed either!
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 9:59 pm | #
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you are not you are making too much sense
Sir, are you an idiot are you just here to stir up trouble?(snip)
*sigh* it will just carry on and on...
card51short | 07.28.07 - 9:39 pm | #
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Because he`s either a troll, some white supremecist or as you already said an idiot, either way he`s geting a bit anoing now.
Wikipedia is censoring freedom of speech... anyone ever heard of project monarch? it was another one of those CIA mind control programs... try making a wikipedia article about it
I am GAK! I just learned how to post links today. Now I am going to OUTSPAM you!
And there is something you should know......
I am not left handed either!
CNN Calls Republicans’ Bluff, Reschedules YouTube Debate
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...bate-postponed/
On July 23, all eight Democratic presidential candidates participated in the CNN/YouTube debate. By uploading a 30-second video to YouTube, “voters could directly question a presidential candidate during the debate.” Steve Grove, YouTube’s news and politics editor, called this new debate format “more democratic than ever.”
Yet so far, just three Republican presidential candidates — Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), and as of yesterday, Tommy Thompson — have confirmed that they will participate in the Sept. 17 debate. Both former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney have said that they have scheduling conflicts.
CNN has called their bluff. The website for Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) reports today that CNN has postponed the September debate:
We received word yesterday that the CNN/YouTube/Florida GOP presidential candidates debate scheduled for September 17 has been postponed. A new date has yet to be determined.
ThinkProgress spoke with the Paul campaign today, who confirmed that CNN contacted them and said that it is rescheduling the debate. The campaign said that it believes it was done to accommodate the schedules of the other candidates. Earlier today, the New York Times reported that CNN “said it would work with the campaigns to find a new date.”
It’s unclear whether the other candidates will actually participate in the rescheduled debate. Romney recently mocked the debate, stating, “I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman,” referring to a citizen dressed as a snowman who submitted a question about global warming.
The New World Order is a complex web of interconnecting secret societies, corporations, institutions, fronts, organizations, associations, and alphabet soup groups.
There is very little "in fighting" in the New World Order. They realize that their collective "gains" are solely dependent upon each other, and they must stay in league with the devil and his master plan, or suffer the horrible consequences. These "birds of a feather" definately flock together.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 9:46 pm | #
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OK who the hell is using GAK's computer????
Here is a funny "take a break" video. A cop maces a young girl drive through attendant after wrongfully accusing her of short changing him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...h? v=oaHyuWgir8U
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 9:32 pm | #
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dude where the fuck is my country????
The New World Order is a complex web of interconnecting secret societies, corporations, institutions, fronts, organizations, associations, and alphabet soup groups.
There is very little "in fighting" in the New World Order. They realize that their collective "gains" are solely dependent upon each other, and they must stay in league with the devil and his master plan, or suffer the horrible consequences. These "birds of a feather" definately flock together.
The "pecking order" of secret societies and the "whodunnit?" can get a bit confusing at times. That is why Alex Jones refers to the all mysterious "THEM" as simply THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
Who are the guilty? Who are THEM? Well, basically anyone with power or influence who operates in secrecy within any political power structure. We need to arrest all of them.
We are not pickering on who is #2! You all just don't want to PUT MOSSAD OR ZIONISTS even on the list! You don't want it out the truth about Israel is all! And about how it was Mossad flying those planes!And rest of info I posted! The TRUTH! And you say you don't care who did 9-11? While our poor troops are dying in large part because of Israel and soon Bush will start another war for Israsel NEEDLESSLY ON IRAN TOO!
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Sir, are you an idiot are you just here to stir up trouble?
Have you read my posts...I said, I quote "I BELIEVE ISRAEL IS BEHIND IT FOR SURE"
But why is that all you talk about? Of course the MOSAD was involved!!!
Why do you put words in my mouth?
*sigh* it will just carry on and on...
card51short, "But who cares?" Zionist (fake Jews) leadership in Israel gets U.S. nuclear security guarding and also treasonous Bush gives them computer security over at Pentagon and YOU DON'T F*ckning care??? 3 out of 4 terrorist attacks have ALL had ICTS as security firm and YOU don't F*CKING care?
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911 truther i've now come to the conclusion you are just here to bicker and fight.
I'll address this post then i'm done with you.
You quoted only part of what i said. I said "WHO CARES WHO WAS REALLY BEHIND 9/11" we just need to expose it's a lie and tell people about it.
I DIDN'T SAY WHO CARES ABOUT PEOPLE DYING IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.
Oh my god...give it a rest...I care about bringing the perps of 9/11 to justice immediately.
Not about bickering who exactly all was behind it WHEN WE CAN NEVER KNOW UNTIL WE BRING THEM TO COURT.
But fine, I don't care about people dying...you're right...*sigh*
Here is a funny "take a break" video. A cop maces a young girl drive through attendant after wrongfully accusing her of short changing him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...h?
v=oaHyuWgir8U
Princess Diana used to refer to the house of Windsor as "Those lizards". Strange comment.
I am not sure which European country "Wilhelmsbad" resides in. But a few men who infiltrated the societies like John Robison wrote books way back then attempting to expose the conspiracy.
Apparently, Jews were allowed to join the Freemasons, and depending upon their "usefulness" and moral fiber, determining their rate of advancement, and elligibility for Illuminist membership.
When any person joins into the higher levels of the secret societies, their former allegiances be it racial, religious, or other, are discarded as petty.
Albeit crazy sounding, my research into the Reptilian race has lead me to conclude that it may well be real. Which would help to explain some of the totally inhuman atrocities perpetrated by the shadowy elites. These "fallen angels" and tares "children of the great Dragon" are refered to as a nest of vipers, serpents, so on and so forth in the Bible.
A new book called "The Dragons Legacy" by Prince Nicolas de Vere Von Drakenburg describes a gene that has been lab analyzed and confirmed as not human by scientists, that runs in Drakenburgs and other Royal houses. Drakenburg is highly intelligent and well spoken. He granted Tracy Rt. Wyman an interview that can be read in full on her website.
Congress of Wilhelmsbad, What was this please? Is it a place or what please? GAK, good post! Thanks!
The "spider web" has so many strands, it's hard to remember even all the major players off the top of my head. That's an indication of how bad things are. Even the secret societies are a complex bueracracy!@
Gabriel Alan King, When you say Jews were finally allowed to become members, of which! Illumanti or Freemason's?
GAK, #13 The Reptilians Who are these please? I hate to even think about them! It's David Icke stuff right? I don't like him! You forgot no.1 person Cheney and also FBI too! And no.1 group PNAC too you forgot Zionist PNAC group! They should be right up there!
pg.18
On July 6, 1782, at the Congress of Wilhelmsbad, an alliance between Freemasonry and the Order of the Illuminati was sealed. This event united approximately three million members of the leading secret societies of the time.
One order of business at the Congress was to allow Jews to become members. Because of the Catholic Churches influence, Jews had few right in Europe and were being sorely persecuted. The House of Rothschild bankers used their influence to cause the change. All that transpired at this meeting will never be known because all attending were sworn to complete secrecy.
"What passed at this terrible Congress will never be known to the outside world, for even those men who had been drawn unwittingly into the movement, and heard for the first time the real designs of the leaders, were under oath to reveal nothing. One honest Freemason, the Comte de Virieu......... when questioned on the tragic secrets he had brought back with him, replied: I will not confide them to you. I can only tell you that all this is very much more serious than you think. The conspiracy which has been woven is so well thought out that it will be, so to speak, Impossible for the Monarchy and the Catholic Church to escape from it. From that time on, says his biographer, M. Costa de Beauregard, the Comte de Virieu could only speak of Freemasonry with horror". (Nesta Webster, World Revolution pg. 1
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Taken from David J. Smith's "Newswatch Magazine"
If they come here and see us bickering about who is #2 on the list, they're gonna think we're little kids.
card51short
We are not pickering on who is #2! You all just don't want to PUT MOSSAD OR ZIONISTS even on the list! You don't want it out the truth about Israel is all! And about how it was Mossad flying those planes!And rest of info I posted! The TRUTH! And you say you don't care who did 9-11? While our poor troops are dying in large part because of Israel and soon Bush will start another war for Israsel NEEDLESSLY ON IRAN TOO!
But who cares"? card51, we are bombing innocent men,women and kids in Afghanistan and Iraq in MAJOR part because of fucking Zionists and Israel and you don't care? Our precious Nation is being destroyed from within and YOU don't care who did 9-11? Our nation is BANKRUPT from cost of needless wars fought in large part because of Zionists in Israel and America too and also because we have stupidly given a wealthy nation like Israel BILLIONS in aide while our OWN people suffer and YOU DON"T CARE??
card51short, "But who cares?" Zionist (fake Jews) leadership in Israel gets U.S. nuclear security guarding and also treasonous Bush gives them computer security over at Pentagon and YOU DON'T F*ckning care??? 3 out of 4 terrorist attacks have ALL had ICTS as security firm and YOU don't F*CKING care?
Gabriel Alan King, You forgot some major player's in 9-11, namely Cheney and FBI too!
WHY DO I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR JAKE THEN FOR BUSH??????????
jbrid1138, I don't like David Icke! He says he is son of God which he is NOT! He is not Jesus brother in that sense of word!
YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE GREAT ABOUT NOW? THE BUSH DAUGHTERS DOING SOMETHING PORNO.... MAYBE A LESBO THING OR SOMETHING WITH THE CHENEY WHORE!
CNN: Dog fighting worse than raping a woman.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...raping-a-woman/
On Thursday, CNN sports anchor Larry Smith commented on Atlanta Falcons’ quarterback Michael Vick’s recent arrest for running a dogfighting ring:
SMITH: Yes, well, that’s — he’s been in a lot of trouble lately, when you think about all the other incidents, and this is just the worst one of all. Keep in mind, too, that while Kobe Bryant is a situation we can sort of compare this to, this really is much worse. Not only can you argue that the crimes are much worse in terms of, you know, killing dogs and that kind of thing, but as an NFL starting quarterback, you are the most visible face in that city. I’ve said all along, in fact, you know, if you go through and, you know, very quickly name 10 mayors of major cities in the country…
GRACE: Larry Smith, did I just hear you say…
SMITH: … you could have a harder time doing that…
GRACE: … mistreatment of…
SMITH: … than naming 10 NFL starting quarterbacks.
GRACE: Did I just hear Larry Smith, CNN sports correspondent and anchor, state that crimes on a dog are much worse than crimes on a woman? Did I hear that?
Meet DAVID ICKE --
http://video.google.co.uk/videop...earch&
plindex=0
The August Review --
http://illuminati-news.com/0/glo...ho-are-
they.htm
U.S. vets' high-blood pressure tied to Agent Orange
http://www.reuters.com/article/
h...728076420070727
U.S. veterans exposed to the defoliant Agent Orange during the Vietnam War may face an increased risk of high blood pressure, an expert panel said on Friday, citing what it called limited but important evidence.
Shocking New Book About the CIA!
http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-A...A/dp/
1596985100
Using his first-rate sources in all levels of national security-from field officers to high-ranking analysts to former intelligence heads-bestselling author Rowan Scarborough [relative of joe "dead intern in office"???]reveals how CIA bureaucrats are undermining the War on Terror through disinformation, incompetence, and outright sabotage.
Here is an audio presentation "Exposing the Illuminati" by one of the original Old Schoolers. Helped wake me up in the beginning. How old? Born in the 1800's. A director and playwriter.
http://100777.com/myron
US May Keep Troops in Europe
http://www.spiegel.de/
internatio...,496654,00.html
The Pentagon may slow or stop its removal of US forces stationed in Western Europe. With the Iraq war spiralling out of control, increasing turmoil in Afghanistan and tensions with Russia, it turns out Western Europe is still an important staging ground.
Ron Paul Double Digits in National Polling?
http://askmrs.com/
Is Ron Paul a double digit canidate? go to : http://askmrs.com
It's the worse case scenario --
Future Weapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h?
v=YjY0Us7NOns
Elite Meltdown? (Ron Paul is the only hope but we need him now!)
http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp?
nid=46376
Friday, July 27, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com Though I am not American, I am a fan of what America was and hopefully can be again. Congressman Ron Paul “gets it” – that America is in danger of drifting into a situation where the republic can no longer be reclaimed.
What happens to some of the people who leave Guantanamao Bay
http://blogs.news.com.au/heralds...t_wanted_freed/
Andrew [Bush Lover] Bolt comments on what happens to people from Guantanamao Bay.
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The real scandal isn’t that the US has locked up suspects at Guantanamo Bay, but that it’s let so many of them go free - free to resume their terrorism: AT LEAST 30 former Guantanamo Bay detainees have been killed or recaptured after taking up arms against allied forces following their release. They have been discovered mostly in Afghanistan and Pakistan, but not in Iraq, a US Defence Department spokesman told The Age yesterday… His comments follow the death this week of Taliban commander and former detainee Abdullah Mehsud, who reportedly blew himself up rather than surrender to Pakistani forces. In December 2001, Mehsud was captured in Afghanistan and held at Guantanamo Bay until his release in March 2004. He later became the Taliban chief for South Waziristan.How many people have now been murdered by fanatics set free from Guantanamo Bay, at the urging of so many civil libertarians and Leftist activists? How many deaths do those civil libertarians now have on their conscience?
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Notice that they engage in catch and release of the real terrorists while the fake ones get locked up forever. just like posada. kill for cheney and you get out of jail free. what this moron fails to notice is that bush/cheney want more terrorism as they have an unconscionable conflict of interest.
GAK -- you're one sicko, but funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h?
v=dGtdpauw9hc
Depleted Uranium-Bush's Favorite WMD-Blamed For Surge in Cancer in Iraq
http://www.commondreams.org/arch...007/07/24/2742/
The Pentagon continues to insist that DU is not harmful.
Michael Moore's Challenge to the Presidential Candidates
http://www.alternet.org/healthwe...hwellness/
57982
The Democratic presidential candidates are fighting to show how in touch they are with the plight of everyday Americans, but Michael Moore has a way for them to prove how serious they are.
Big bro alert
New Infrared Camera Counts HOV Passengers
http://www.therawfeed.com/2007/0...counts-
hov.html
UK scientists have invented an infrared camera system called Dtect, which COUNTS THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS inside cars driving in high-occupancy vehicle (HOV) lanes (called "car share lanes" in the UK). The system can distinguish dummies and dogs from people.
They have not declared a dictatorship yet , that would be foolish and they are not that. Phycotic, sadistic, imoral, decetfull, pathetic, pyscopaths,egomaniacs, yes, but not stupid.
However it is a **dictaorship**,and we know it. Too bad the silent majority canot see it, guess they will have to learn the hard way.
Their kids will hate them for their ignorence ,illusions and cowardice, or they will become browhshirts. I just cant be sarcsitic anymore, fact is I just feel for the children of this land, the flag shakers and bubble heads can smother for all I give a shit.
http://www.autoweapons.com/
produ...uppressors.html
Time to get on it, boys. Don't tread on us.
There are many others, but these are the main controlling players pulling the strings in the fake war on terror, and the rest of the Globalist scam.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 7:22 pm | #
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I am plaigerizing your stuff, shit man you been off the sauce for a while
I think maybe even old Bela Lugosi (aka Dracula) may have had a little PNAC in his blood //
A Race Of Atomic Supermen, Which Will Conquer The World --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...related&
search=
Paul Wolfowitz – as Deputy Secretary of Defense, he headed a group of about 700 military experts. The huge “think tank” had formulated plans to remove Saddam Hussein and for the invasion of Iraq.
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A-1,,J. good post
There are many others, but these are the main controlling players pulling the strings in the fake war on terror, and the rest of the Globalist scam.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.28.07 - 7:22 pm |
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Good post GAK -- I don't think you missed any of the heavy players. Outstanding.
We don't know exactly all of the culprits of 911? Pardon me, but I pretty much do.
Here is a list of the major players running the whole game:
#1 Lucifer
#2 The Council of 13
#3 The Illuminati
#4 The Committee of 300 (Formerly known as East India trading company) and Builderberg elites social club.
#5 The Rothschild counterfeiting ring
#6 The Royal family
#7 The Freemasons
#8 The Jesuit Order
#9 The Zionist "fake" Jews
#10 The Club of Rome
#11 Skull & Bones
#12 Certain members of the Council on foreign relations
#13 The Reptilians
#14 The Trilateral Commission
#15 NSA, CIA, and MI6
#16 US and British demolitions experts and contractors
#18 THE WHOLE OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
#19 The Parliment, the Senate, and the US House of Representatives.
#20 The whole Bush family, Guliani, and Larry Silverstien
There are many others, but these are the main controlling players pulling the strings in the fake war on terror, and the rest of the Globalist scam.
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What?! You put the mainstream media at #16?! It should be #13.5!!! Oh my god, you are covering up for the mainstream media! I can't believe it! All these days I thought you were good!
Don't you see how stupid it is to be debating on who exactly did it?
We know it was the NWO and their followers. So lets attack them instead of debating who did more or who deserves to be punished worse.
NONE OF US know all the culprits!
But who cares! Lets spread the word on why 9/11 is false and people will wake up.
If they come here and see us bickering about who is #2 on the list, they're gonna think we're little kids.
We don't know exactly all of the culprits of 911? Pardon me, but I pretty much do.
Here is a list of the major players running the whole game:
#1 Lucifer
#2 The Council of 13
#3 The Illuminati
#4 The Committee of 300 (Formerly known as East India trading company) and Builderberg elites social club.
#5 The Rothschild counterfeiting ring
#6 The Royal family
#7 The Freemasons
#8 The Jesuit Order
#9 The Zionist "fake" Jews
#10 The Club of Rome
#11 Skull & Bones
#12 Certain members of the Council on foreign relations
#13 The Reptilians
#14 The Trilateral Commission
#15 NSA, CIA, and MI6
#16 US and British demolitions experts and contractors
#18 THE WHOLE OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
#19 The Parliment, the Senate, and the US House of Representatives.
#20 The whole Bush family, Guliani, and Larry Silverstien
There are many others, but these are the main controlling players pulling the strings in the fake war on terror, and the rest of the Globalist scam.
And speaking of English ability -- What's up with this guy? No excuse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...related&
search=
Now FOX is complaining about bloggers! I'd like to give Bill O'Reilly a Columbian neck tie, live on FOX TV.
Good smash on Guilliani on infowars, more Guilliani scams.
Don't you people think that if there were any idea of Israel being involved with 9-11, Bush should NOT be giving our security away to Israel? Our U.S. security should NOT be given to ANY FOREIGN NATION, PERIOD! Why is it OK to lay guilt for 9-11 ONLY at Bush's feet but NOT at Mossad feet too? WHY NOT? I am telling you it is NO fucking coincidence that 3 out of 4 terrrorist attacks ALL have ICTS as security! NO fucking way it was "accident" NONE! And it's BULLSHIT to say we don't know who was involved in 9-11 because we sure fucking do! Bush/Cheney, Mossad, FBI, Rummie, to name a few!
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I said we don't know EXACTLY ALL of the culprits...which no one but the culprits themselves really knows. Sure, we can have theories and it's good to get them out in the open and discuss..but you seem to be attacking people for no reason. I believe Israel was involved for sure but don't place them above any other of the culprits.
well im not an american i live in europe.my english is from waching american tv i speak 4 launguages by the way how about you?
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My apologies, Lars, I didn't realize that you were not American and that English was not your native language. You have reason to be proud of your accomplishments...4 languages is actually quite impressive. It beats the mere 3 languages that I speak. I just assumed that you were a victim of the American public schools...that was the wrong thing to do. Again, I apologize.
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 7:00 pm | #
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shit i don't even speak english good
My apologies, Lars, I didn't realize that you were not American and that English was not your native language. You have reason to be proud of your accomplishments...4 languages is actually quite impressive. It beats the mere 3 languages that I speak. I just assumed that you were a victim of the American public schools...that was the wrong thing to do. Again, I apologize.
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So the troll does have compassion! In all honesty, it took guts to post that comment...but, of course, you had to throw in that you speak a "mere" 3 languages. It's OK...I respect the post.
Don't you people think that if there were any idea of Israel being involved with 9-11, Bush should NOT be giving our security away to Israel? Our U.S. security should NOT be given to ANY FOREIGN NATION, PERIOD! Why is it OK to lay guilt for 9-11 ONLY at Bush's feet but NOT at Mossad feet too? WHY NOT? I am telling you it is NO fucking coincidence that 3 out of 4 terrrorist attacks ALL have ICTS as security! NO fucking way it was "accident" NONE! And it's BULLSHIT to say we don't know who was involved in 9-11 because we sure fucking do! Bush/Cheney, Mossad, FBI, Rummie, to name a few!
More for your viewing pleasure:
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:45 pm | #
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Way to go sane.
I wish I could buy you an ice cold beer.
oldman | 07.28.07 - 6:57 pm | #
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I can't remember didn't I act likje an asshole to you?
think maybe i should apoloigize or something?
i forget
I am very proud of your for your ability to write English as well as you do -- Keep up the good work.
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 6:55 pm | #
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Thanks bro this means much to me, and once again sorry for my response to you on the Pat Tillman post i misunderstod your point later guys
card51short, WRONG! WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE! I know who all were involved and it Goddamn FOR SURE WAS ISRAELI LEADER'S AND MOSSAD AGENTS TOO ALONG WITH BUSH AND COHORTS! You just want to forget Mossad involvement while Bush gives away the ALL security to Israel when it is PROVEN THEY WERE FUCKING INVOLVED, TOO!
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Ummm what? I didn't deny any involvement by anyone. What are you talking about?
OK Israel is behind the entire thing. OK...9/11 was an inside job...now lets get active and stop bickering over complete nonsense...
WHO CARES WHO EXACTLY DID IT?!
The whole establishment is letting it happen and if we're gonna bicker about who we should go after we're gonna sit here till the cows come home.
I respect your work and your passion, 911 truther, but saying that you know who exactly was behind the attacks is a pretty bold statement.
Was MOSAD involved? Sure...did they make NORAD stand down? No.
All current governments are our enemies...Israel, US, UK...all of em! I'm not pointing out one and saying they are more involved than the others...THEY ALL LET IT HAPPEN.
Lets get them all!
well im not an american i live in europe.my english is from waching american tv i speak 4 launguages by the way how about you?
Lars | 07.28.07 - 6:44 pm | #
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My apologies, Lars, I didn't realize that you were not American and that English was not your native language. You have reason to be proud of your accomplishments...4 languages is actually quite impressive. It beats the mere 3 languages that I speak. I just assumed that you were a victim of the American public schools...that was the wrong thing to do. Again, I apologize.
Well its geting late here i`d bether get some sleep, love all you guys good luck saving the republic, and please deal with the troll
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He dealt with himself. Immediately after requesting a debate, he (like many other trolls before him) scurried away in fear of actually being informed.
card51short, WRONG! WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE! I know who all were involved and it Goddamn FOR SURE WAS ISRAELI LEADER'S AND MOSSAD AGENTS TOO ALONG WITH BUSH AND COHORTS! You just want to forget Mossad involvement while Bush gives away the ALL security to Israel when it is PROVEN THEY WERE FUCKING INVOLVED, TOO!
The only ones that truly know the inner workings of 9/11 were the evil bastards involved in it. The rest of us have to learn what we can as outsiders. An open mind helps..
More for your viewing pleasure:
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:45 pm | #
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Way to go sane.
I wish I could buy you an ice cold beer.
sane and truther...cmon guys we're on the same team? None of us know all the people involved in 9/11. We just know that it isn't what they said it is. Don't you listen to AJ? Stop all this in fighting when it is really getting us nowhere.
card51short | 07.28.07 - 6:54 pm | #
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AMEN brother! 9/11 truther please understand we are on your side
Well its geting late here i`d bether get some sleep, love all you guys good luck saving the republic, and please deal with the troll
Israel is "guarding" our nukes, thanks to TREASONOUS mass murdering Bush and those traitors in our gov't who let him give them that authority! http://
www.whatreallyhappened.co...edbyisrael.html
Read this all!
7thson = another troll scurrying back to his cave after getting completely owned and denying a debate.
Run away, lil guy! You're scared of the truth!
well im not an american i live in europe.my english is from waching american tv i speak 4 launguages by the way how about you?
Lars
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I just love it! A great come back. You'll probably find that the one critizing you on your grammar speaks nothing but poor English himself, maybe took Spanish or Latin in high school -- but that's about it.
I personally spent nearly 14 years in Germany (as an American soldier) but speak little of the Language. I went to Vietnam and learned a little Vietnamese -- but that was over 40 years ago and what I knew back then // wouldn't come in handy today anyway. I did study Japanese language for 47 weeks (seven days a week) and learned how to read, write, and speak // but sadly those skills are gone too. I grew up in Illinois but have a hell of a time with English, personally. I do not like to critize others. I am very proud of your for your ability to write English as well as you do -- Keep up the good work.
sane and truther...cmon guys we're on the same team? None of us know all the people involved in 9/11. We just know that it isn't what they said it is. Don't you listen to AJ? Stop all this in fighting when it is really getting us nowhere.
http://
www.whatreallyhappened.co...edbyisrael.html
Read this all! This proves me right and sane WRONG, again!
Papal aide warns of 'Islamisation of Europe'
http://news.scotsman.com/interna...m?
id=1171152007
He made it clear that Europe's Christian roots are under threat from a resurgent Islam. He also spoke of Islam not being a single force but a religion of extremes, with extremists who "turn to rifles for their goals".
Sane, what are you talking about?
www.patriotsquestion911.com
www.ae911truth.org
Obviously the 500+ names of Professors, Scientists, Government officials, politicians, military leaders, 9-11 Commission members, Celebrities, Pilots, Architects and Engineers who believe 9/11 was an inside job or have serious questions are all "loonies".
7thson said it, it has to be true! But wait...he did say it on the internet...so now its not true...hmm...now i'm confused!
well im not an american i live in europe.my english is from waching american tv i speak 4 launguages by the way how about you?
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Hahah...owned?
7th son, since my debating skills are obviously superior [actually they suck...but i got truth on my side], maybe now you would like to get edumacated:
9-11 coincidence theory:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...492071990669218
More for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...WyJJQbFago&
NR=1
http://video.google.com/
videopla...289437231286745
http://video.google.com/
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http://video.google.com/
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http://video.google.com/
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I think PNAC was before they quietly slid out the backdoor as an organized THINK TANK was pretty much a collection of membership (many high ranking government officials) who got too damn big for their own britches, so to speak. Being a THINK TANK they got to thinking that they were better than everyone else, even at the expense of what was (is -?) at the heart of our wonderful nation. They threw that in the toilet thinking they were the high and mighty few who had a right to rule the world. They set the plans that Bush and his cronies would implement (9/11 -- a new Pearl Harbor) and (war with Afghanistan & Iraq -- step number one and two on the road to world domination). What a bunch of jerks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...related&
search=
Here's what many of us THINK about one of their ultra VIP's (William Kristol):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...h?
v=8ov8nJ1lOa8
By the way, Lars, I think that remedial courses in spelling and grammar could do you a world of good. They might be worth considering.
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:39 pm | #
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well im not an american i live in europe.my english is from waching american tv i speak 4 launguages by the way how about you?
By the way, Lars, I think that remedial courses in spelling and grammar could do you a world of good. They might be worth considering.
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:39 pm | #
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well we need not your glamorous diplommas and higher levels of IQ like all the AEI traitors to smell BS when it is posted.
By the way, Lars, I think that remedial courses in spelling and grammar could do you a world of good. They might be worth considering.
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Lars...are you gonna take that? I mean this guy just hit below the belt...grammar and spelling?! Oh my god, I would sue for slander if I were you.
This guy is really hitting us hard today.
First, an elvis joke now he's making fun of grammar and spelling?!
This HAS to cease!
Get this. Because of the floods in the UK these wankers are going to put up out Water Bills? And they are the twats that keep building on Flood Plains??? Their madness knows no end!
7thson...guess you don't to debate...what a surprise!
Carry on with your name-calling and Elvis jokes, instead. You're really hitting us hard!
This guy tells me to get a life and he's actually sitting on a message board with people who he calls insane to debate with them. This would be like me rolling up to the gates of a mental institution and pointing and saying "you are all idiots!" for hours and when one of them replies I state: "You're such a loser replying to me! Get a life!"
But, we all know, deep inside, 7thson knows there is something wrong and that is why he is here.
He's not ready to accept the "conspiracy theory" because he is still holding on to the last strands of his crumbling paradigm.
Carry on with your Elvis jokes...you're hilarious!
all these links do is put shit together for ya cause ya obviously are incapable of that.
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:33 pm | #
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Tsk, tsk, sane. Now who's getting into ad hominem attacks?
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:35 pm | #
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um, do you understand or comprehend the meaning of ad hominem????
since you just put off over 50 hours of 5 years worth of investigative research, I assumed that you were a bit lazy and do not care about the victims of 911
am I wrong?
am i mistaken that you cannot be bothered to find out why our brothers sisters mothers fathers sons daughters wives husbands siblings died and continue to do because of the events of 911?
is it ad hominem to point out that your apparent pomposaity toward the evidence is an indicator that you care little for the million that have died due to 911?
is that too much of a stretch?
tsk tsk, try again
By the way, Lars, I think that remedial courses in spelling and grammar could do you a world of good. They might be worth considering.
all these links do is put shit together for ya cause ya obviously are incapable of that.
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:33 pm | #
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Tsk, tsk, sane. Now who's getting into ad hominem attacks?
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Sane, what are you thinking?! You know only the coincidence theorists can use ad-hominem attacks! If we use them, we are considered immature and our entire movement is criticized!
News flash Lars....ALL news lies to you!
You deny Larry Silverstein and his connection to 9-11
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How can anyone (??) deny this guy's involvment? He's dirty // His public announcement of 'pull it' goes without true challenge (I know there are those that say 'pull it' means firemen -- but I don't believe that load of crap) // His asking (and getting) all that money may be legal (insurance) but his claims of double the settlement saying two towers equal two attacks -- give me a F-ing break // the guy's a crud. He's a rich one but he's a dirty one. The very idea that he insured the WTC for terrorist attacks and did this weeks before 9/11 might be construed by some as a shrewd businessman BUT I consider it a display of advance knowledge.
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 6:31 pm | #
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Silverstein is a traitor to the American republic and the entire human race. he should have been the first one investigated, then cheney, then rumsfeld, then rockefeller, then condi, then larry potts, then all of AEI/PNAC etc. etc.
how the hell is anyone here saying, let larry skate by on this one...fuck him, no matter what happened on 9/11 i am pretty sure he gave the order to kill dan wallace and for that he deserves eternal hell.
sane, What's the matter, cat got your tongue? Answer my questions! You have work to do? Like what, evade my valid questions? What do you think of Larry, sane? What? Or PNAC group?
My humblest apologies. If it's on the internet, it MUST be true! What was I thinking?
The7thSon
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Well did you actualy take some time to study the evidence? i know its had to have your paradigme shatered. Me i was chearing my self when the troops invaded afganistan but i wised up the evidence is overwhelming . Heck boot lickers like you wont even mather its true patriots found here that can make any change you`ll just lick the boots of who ever is in power, and here`s a litle tip for you Fox News Lies to you
all these links do is put shit together for ya cause ya obviously are incapable of that.
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:33 pm | #
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Tsk, tsk, sane. Now who's getting into ad hominem attacks?
My humblest apologies. If it's on the internet, it MUST be true! What was I thinking?
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:26 pm | #
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btw, since you are on the internet, i thought i would send you some linjks...you can go to barnes and noble if you like, or you can go to a symposium, or a meetup group, or a college, or the mainstream media, or the white house, or the pentagon, or NY, or congress.
all these links do is put shit together for ya cause ya obviously are incapable of that.
And 9-11 truther why are you so mad? i actualy begining to think you are a troll atempting to poison the well with your zionist noncense
Lars
I am damn mad because I am tired of ANYONE questioning U.S. aid or such to Israel being labelled "anti-Semtic" or like! Fucking tired of Congress putting Israel FIRST AND NOT AMERICA FIRST! MAD AS HELL THE BUSH AND REST ARE HAVING ANY,ANY OTHER NATION DO OUR NUCLEAR SECURITY MUCH LESS ISRAEL WHO HAVE MURDERED ALOT OF AMERICAN'S BEFORE TOO! I put America first NOT Israel as should ALL American's INCLUDED AMERICAN JEWS TOO, sane!
My humblest apologies. If it's on the internet, it MUST be true! What was I thinking?
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Do you have any critical thinking? Or do you just use blanket statements?
Are you saying that everything on the internet is a lie? What is your basis for proving a lie? If you don't agree with something on the internet, is it a lie?
Do you care to debate the lies or just yell out spastically what you think is a truth and lie with no debate or critical logic used whatsoever?
Do you care to debate with us "loonies" or do you just want to make jokes and deny reality?
It's up to you...i'm up for a debate today...we can go deep into it if you like.
Or we can just name-call back and forth like a 3rd grader...up to you.
If you choose to accept, we'll start with Larry Silverstein's "pull it" comments...what did he mean by pull it?
You deny Larry Silverstein and his connection to 9-11
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How can anyone (??) deny this guy's involvment? He's dirty // His public announcement of 'pull it' goes without true challenge (I know there are those that say 'pull it' means firemen -- but I don't believe that load of crap) // His asking (and getting) all that money may be legal (insurance) but his claims of double the settlement saying two towers equal two attacks -- give me a F-ing break // the guy's a crud. He's a rich one but he's a dirty one. The very idea that he insured the WTC for terrorist attacks and did this weeks before 9/11 might be construed by some as a shrewd businessman BUT I consider it a display of advance knowledge.
sane, IS not blaming the WRONG people for doing 9-11 "dividing" the movement? Is not bombing innocent men,women and kids FUCKING IMMORAL!? I am NOT "dividing" the movement by placing BLAME WHERE IT FUCKING BELONGS! AND THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES! ISRAEL WAS INVOLVED IN 9-11 TOO! FACT!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 6:28 pm | #
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i told you i am busy working we can go outside and play later, now go chew on your bone for a few hours ....
9-11 Truther.
It would be far more effective to go after the individuals that are causing this meltdown of civilization than to label amorphous groups and give them strength by admission.
Yes, they exist. yes they are dangerous to those who threaten them. Yes they depend on financing from on high...
http://wearechange.org/forum/YaB...?
num=1184408392
.
Don't waste your energies on minnows when there's sharks about.
Bipedal crocodiles, too.
Bonne nuit.
The7thSon is a troll i`ve seen his posts elsewhere don waste your breath on him he`s a boot licker
Neo: why does my eyes hurt?
Morpheus: because you never used them before
i admit i`ve stolen that
Lars | 07.28.07 - 6:24 pm | #
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Wow, Lars! You've seen my other posts? That's quite an accomplishment since today is the first time I've posted anything...
My humblest apologies. If it's on the internet, it MUST be true! What was I thinking?
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:26 pm | #
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well you are on the internet...
are you TRUE?????
or are you assisting NWO in preventing the truth from getting out?
or are you purposefully spreading disinfo and teasing generals, nato supreme commanders, congressmen, scientists, doctors, lawyers, VICTIMS, iraqi war veterans to serve some fucked up personal interest????
care to answer that one SPARKY?
sane, IS not blaming the WRONG people for doing 9-11 "dividing" the movement? Is not bombing innocent men,women and kids FUCKING IMMORAL!? I am NOT "dividing" the movement by placing BLAME WHERE IT FUCKING BELONGS! AND THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES! ISRAEL WAS INVOLVED IN 9-11 TOO! FACT!
hey buddy...see if you can turn off the mind control for a few minutes so that reality can penetrate...
9-11 coincidence theory:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...492071990669218
More for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...W...WyJJQbFago&
NR=1
http://video.google.com/ videopla...289437231286745
http://video.google.com/ videopla...179074068244932
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sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:15 pm | #
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My humblest apologies. If it's on the internet, it MUST be true! What was I thinking?
ak48, Division my ass! The facts are ALL in my posts! Israel, i.e. Mossad agents helped do 9-11 along with Bush and cohorts too! sane, and rest how do you like Larry? ANSWER ME DAMN IT! How do you feel about Larry? Or PNAC group?
Is this not a method for dividing a movement?
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 5:56 pm |
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Yes.
The7thSon is a troll i`ve seen his posts elsewhere don waste your breath on him he`s a boot licker
Neo: why does my eyes hurt?
Morpheus: because you never used them before
i admit i`ve stolen that
And 9-11 truther why are you so mad? i actualy begining to think you are a troll atempting to poison the well with your zionist noncense
Lars
WRONG! You and sane are Zionist apologists! You deny Larry Silverstein and his connection to 9-11! Your soo very wrong and you damn well know it too! Your denying the LOGIC in what I have said here that 3 out of 4 attacks have happened at sites where ICTS has security at! How do either troll sane or you explain this? HOW? Stop changing the subject here and tell me WHY in hell did Israel let Richard Reid board that plane, WHY? How do either of you shills explain FACT that ICTS was involved in 3 out of 4 bogus "terrorist attacks'"? EXPLAIN LAST TWO QUESTIONS! The only shills here are you two!
sane, yes it could be a way to cause division. In the later posts however it seems rather sincere. Could it be that you both got off to a bad start? I will go and read some old posts to get some perspective.
ak48 | 07.28.07 - 6:07 pm | #
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Nope we actually got off to a great start, that is why i make a point to out her early. she goes in with the:
"yes 911 was an inside job wake up people....
bush and cheney are traitors don't you guys realize that...
and the zionists and the bush's always work together....
israel controls all of our nuclear weapons wake up people [she actually said this, i shit you not]....
zionists are ashkenazis where the real jews are sephardic, ashkenazis are the ones that are evil [similar argument used by weissmann-russian jews/polish jews similar to bush dividing arabs into shia/sunnis]..."
and it just gets worse from there, check the history...you are a phenomenal researcher. I am pretty sure you will figure it out...or you will end up making me look foolish by educating me [for which i amn very thankful]...AGAIN!
The Bush administration has decided to supply billions of dollars in advanced new weapons to Saudi Arabia, other Arab allies of the United States and to Israel, senior State Department officials and congressional aides said Friday.
The Motherfucking traitor has BANKRUPTED AMERICA ON PURPOSE THE BASTARD ALONG WITH BASTARDS IN CONGRESS TOO! AMERICA IS DEAD! THANKS TO TRAITOR'S IN OWN GOV'T AND OUR SO CALLED "ALLIES" TOO!
First of all: What in hell is a "coincidence theorist"? Second: The only real joke is loonies like you who see a Government conspiracy behind every event and a black helicopter behind every cloud. GET A REAL LIFE...OKAY?
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You, my friend are a coincidence theorist. Someone who just rationalizes everything as a coincidence and trusts the government on everything.
You're telling me to get a life when I am on a message board talking to people I agree with and who share the same beliefs.
You are on a message board with people you think are insane and yet you stick around long enough to reply to my post.
If we are truly "loony" then why not, instead of just making very funny jokes, debate with us?
We'll start by Larry Silverstein saying pull it....do you think he was referring to the firefighters?
First of all: What in hell is a "coincidence theorist"? Second: The only real joke is loonies like you who see a Government conspiracy behind every event and a black helicopter behind every cloud. GET A REAL LIFE...OKAY?
The7thSon | 07.28.07 - 6:06 pm | #
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hey buddy...see if you can turn off the mind control for a few minutes so that reality can penetrate...
9-11 coincidence theory:
http://video.google.com/
videopla...492071990669218
More for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...WyJJQbFago&
NR=1
http://video.google.com/
videopla...289437231286745
http://video.google.com/
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I told ya she dont read too good. I also would defend her right to express herself. I have not shut her up, I only enrage her so that she shows her true colors thus contradicting herself. She outs herself via her emotionally powered absense of logic and sanity. I think the past few posts of hers kind of proves my point.
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 6:02 pm | #
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and i agree that injecting the zionist idea is only hurting our cause sheeple will look at this and think we`re jew haters and racist I`m neither of those
And 9-11 truther why are you so mad? i actualy begining to think you are a troll atempting to poison the well with your zionist noncense
sane, yes it could be a way to cause division. In the later posts however it seems rather sincere. Could it be that you both got off to a bad start? I will go and read some old posts to get some perspective.
Wow good one! You coincidence theorists should write for SNL on your spare time (when you aren't deleting posts and trolling message boards).
Seriously, is that all you can say? Do you have anything intelligent to bring to the conversation or is everything a joke to you?
You're a clown...go back to Wikipedia where you can censor all you want.
card51short | 07.28.07 - 6:00 pm | #
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First of all: What in hell is a "coincidence theorist"? Second: The only real joke is loonies like you who see a Government conspiracy behind every event and a black helicopter behind every cloud. GET A REAL LIFE...OKAY?
Lars and sane, Screw BOTH of YOU! I have NOT bashed the "Jews" but the FUCKING ZIONISTS WHO CARRIED OUT 9-11!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 5:22 pm | #
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I give up i actualy trying to stand up for your right to express your opinion and thats the thatnks i get, well i`ll still defend your right to your opinion please read my post again and know that it was not ironic, maybe its my english thats realy bad i dont know. I didnt try to offend you or call you a racist you`re not
Lars | 07.28.07 - 5:53 pm | #
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I told ya she dont read too good. I also would defend her right to express herself. I have not shut her up, I only enrage her so that she shows her true colors thus contradicting herself. She outs herself via her emotionally powered absense of logic and sanity. I think the past few posts of hers kind of proves my point.
I read your article about the Feds tampering with Wikipedia. You're right. I looked up Elvis Presley, and found NO mention of the CIA faking his death so that they could train him secretly as a sniper/assassin. This is a perfect plan because, after all, who would EVER suspect Elvis??
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Wow good one! You coincidence theorists should write for SNL on your spare time (when you aren't deleting posts and trolling message boards).
Seriously, is that all you can say? Do you have anything intelligent to bring to the conversation or is everything a joke to you?
You're a clown...go back to Wikipedia where you can censor all you want.
I read your article about the Feds tampering with Wikipedia. You're right. I looked up Elvis Presley, and found NO mention of the CIA faking his death so that they could train him secretly as a sniper/assassin. This is a perfect plan because, after all, who would EVER suspect Elvis??
sane, I dont want to debate the topic too extensively, so I will try to sum up my point this way:
Not all freemasons are bad people, in fact almost all of them think they are doing something good. However at 14th degree you learn that your god is lucifer, above that you begin to realize that it is an elitist organisation and eventually you are informed that the plan is world government and mass murder of roughly 90% of the population. (freemasonry is called the age of reason, the same name appears on the Georgia Guidestones which have been linked to the rosicrucians).
Now I ask you this, since only a small fraction of the freemasons are aware of this, even fewer are part of the deciding body, but still freemasonry is part of the vehicle that makes the implementation of the plan possible... is freemasonry in itself a bad thing? Almost all freemasons want to do good, almost all CFR members think they are part of shaping the world into something better... zionism is no different. I am against all three, I say no to masonry, no to zionism and no to CFR.
ak48 | 07.28.07 - 5:47 pm | #
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Again, I agree and do not see any issue between us.
but have you taken a look at the history to see that 911 frauder [and others like her, rich, freddy fatt, etc] does not agree and believes that all evil comes from zionism rather than all of the heads of the secret societies?
Is this not a method for dividing a movement?
Lars and sane, Screw BOTH of YOU! I have NOT bashed the "Jews" but the FUCKING ZIONISTS WHO CARRIED OUT 9-11!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 5:22 pm | #
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I give up i actualy trying to stand up for your right to express your opinion and thats the thatnks i get, well i`ll still defend your right to your opinion please read my post again and know that it was not ironic, maybe its my english thats realy bad i dont know. I didnt try to offend you or call you a racist you`re not
sane, I dont want to debate the topic too extensively, so I will try to sum up my point this way:
Not all freemasons are bad people, in fact almost all of them think they are doing something good. However at 14th degree you learn that your god is lucifer, above that you begin to realize that it is an elitist organisation and eventually you are informed that the plan is world government and mass murder of roughly 90% of the population. (freemasonry is called the age of reason, the same name appears on the Georgia Guidestones which have been linked to the rosicrucians).
Now I ask you this, since only a small fraction of the freemasons are aware of this, even fewer are part of the deciding body, but still freemasonry is part of the vehicle that makes the implementation of the plan possible... is freemasonry in itself a bad thing? Almost all freemasons want to do good, almost all CFR members think they are part of shaping the world into something better... zionism is no different. I am against all three, I say no to masonry, no to zionism and no to CFR.
some reliable military grade stuff and some .3oo win mag brass.......
What is this?
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Shopping list for tomorrows gun show.
Jesus Camp Movie --
http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/
(I have not watched this and probably won't)
I'm sorry, I can't watch that much Guiliani without having my stomach pumped afterwards.
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 5:39 pm | #
it is almost as gut wrenching as jesus camp
US Accuses Saudis of Telling Lies About Iraq
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/1...les/
146697.html
The extent of the deterioration in US-Saudi relations was exposed for the first time yesterday when Washington accused Riyadh of working to undermine the Iraqi government.
I'm sorry, I can't watch that much Guiliani without having my stomach pumped afterwards.
Why Is Rudy Skipping Debate? His YouTube Greatest Hits May Explain All!
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/
elec...may_explain_all
A rival campaign has sent Election Central a collection of Rudy Giuliani s greatest YouTube hits. The idea is to show that the real reason Rudy is threatening to bail on the YouTube debate is because there s too much video ammo from his past that could be used against him by citizens asking tough questions.
Israel was not alone in this warning of a pending attack on the United States // France, Germany, Great Britian // even USAma bin Laden // to name a few more expressed concern in our direction.
Did Bush Know? (of course he did)
http://www.mediamonitors.net/
mos...mosaddeq36.html
San Francisco: Turn in a gun, get a $100.-$200. gift card
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/
ar...eed=rss.bayarea
The public can unload unwanted firearms at San Francisco's Civic Center Plaza today - no questions asked -- and receive $100 to $200 gift cards in return. People who turn in rifles or shotguns will receive a $100 gift card; a revolver or semiautomatic will bring a $150 gift card. Those who bring an assault-type firearm will receive a $200 gift card
iPhone Customer Files Sealed Battery Class-action Lawsuit Against Apple
http://www.dailytech.com/article...spx?
newsid=8218
One iPhone customer wasn't happy at all with the iPhone's battery life or the two alternatives to replacing a defective battery and filed a class-action lawsuit against Apple as a result.
With Gonzales Under Fire, FBI Violation Gains Notice
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml?
hpid=topnews
The violation was the only one after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that the FBI has specifically flagged as intentional. But it has attracted fresh attention because Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales testified six months later that no "verified case of civil liberties abuse" had occurred since the USA Patriot Act was enacted.
Organised "sex camps" for Russia's teenagers
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
pages...in_page_id=1770
Nashi's annual camp, is attended by 10,000 uniformed youngsters and involves two weeks of lectures and physical fitness. Alcohol is banned, but sex is encouraged, especially if it "produces" a baby.
I went to www.iamthewitness.com,and it seems clear to me now that they are trying to diminish the roll of any other political/global movement ACCEPT Zionism.They name call and beat people up at every turn.Pathetic.O.K.,so P.N.A.C. was authored by those who lead you to you believe they are are Zionists,and they very well may be,but that dosen't mean the only foe of peace is Zionism.Evil works as a team.If Hufschmid and company were not so quick to point the finger at others who are trying to shed some light on the darkness we face from EVERY evil faction,not just Zionism,maybe they could use they're knowledge to bring people together NOT tear them apart.The tone of the website is suspicious in my view.
When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always.
Mahatma Gandhi
Just because Mossad warned CIA that bogus boogeymen " Al-CIA-da" were in U.S. does NOT mean they were NOT involved in 9-11! What fucking better way to frame others! It's the Mossad's MO!
Ron Paul On WPHT w/ Michael Smerconish PT 1 of 2
http://
gocampaign2008.blogspot.c...smerconish.html
Presidential Candidate Ron Paul appeared on WPHT 1210AM Philadelphia on 7-5-07. He discusses his voting record, United States relations with foreign countries, including Pakistan and Iraq, and why the terrorists attacked our nation on September 11th.
Letters written by Hillary Clinton in the '60s
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...=rssnyt&
emc=rss
In other letters, she would convey a mounting exasperation with her rigid conservative father and disdain for both “debutante” dormmates and an acid-dropping friend. She would issue a blanket condemnation of the “boys” she had met and also tell of an encounter she had with “a Dartmouth boy”.
in spain when Franco attempted to seaze power, the anarchist and the libretarian socialists revolted and reganized society in parts of Spain for awhile, until they were betrayed by the stalinists and the Republic
Having sex with a non-consenting woman is legal, as long as she's dead
http://wcco.com/local/
local_stor..._207143827.html
The three men went to a cemetery in Cassville in southwestern Wisconsin on Sept. 2 to remove the body of Laura Tennessen, 20, who had been killed the week before in a motorcycle crash.
The Bush administration has decided to supply billions of dollars in advanced new weapons to Saudi Arabia, other Arab allies of the United States and to Israel, senior State Department officials and congressional aides said Friday.
Just fucking wonderful! Now the SAME Goddamn country that helped do 9-11 Bush is giving more arms too!
the 1930 were not all about fascism and state-communism, two sides of the same coin called tyranny.
the 30's were also a time a great agitation by conservative libretarians as well as "freecommunism" libretarian socialism and anarchism, marginalized idiologies that constantly get swept under the rug
http:// www.cooperativeresearch.o...eytriedtowarnus
They Tried to Warn Us: Foreign Intelligence Warnings Before 9/11
***extract***
Some have claimed that the existence of this spy ring shows that Israel was behind the 9/11 attacks, an argument that is beyond the scope of this essay. But if the mainstream media is to be believed, Israel gave the US several specific warnings of the 9/11 attacks. In the second week of August 2001, two high-ranking agents from the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, came to Washington and warned the CIA and FBI that 50 to 200 al-Qaeda terrorists had slipped into the US and were planning an imminent “major assault on the US” aimed at a “large scale target” [Telegraph, 9/16/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01, Ottawa Citizen, 9/17/01 Fox News, 5/17/02]. Near the end of August, France also gave a warning that was an “echo” of Israel’s. [Fox News, 5/17/02]
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 5:21 pm | #
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nice catch i have heard that but you put it to an undebunkable state, but it was not just mossad, german russian phillipine uk intelligence also warned us.
our own fbi tried to warn us.
these guys are above any group/nation/race/religion
they just believe that the world is theirs and we are breathing their air.
The Bush administration has decided to supply billions of dollars in advanced new weapons to Saudi Arabia, other Arab allies of the United States and to Israel, senior State Department officials and congressional aides said Friday.
sane, You forgot to mention Israel too! Don't forget his is rewarding Israel also!
Let's Save the Country with Ron Paul
http://principledpolitics.blogsp...h-ron-
paul.html
This is 40 minute re-mix of all major Ron Paul media appearances, it was designed to be distributed on DVDs. 13000 DVDs have been printed for distribution in Iowa (which has the earliest primaries and an important straw poll).
Lars and sane, Screw BOTH of YOU! I have NOT bashed the "Jews" but the FUCKING ZIONISTS WHO CARRIED OUT 9-11! All of PNAC group is Zionists and you KNOW they brainstormed 9-11! Screw both of you! It's NOT the damn "Jews" I am bashing but Zionists you assholes and YOU FUCKING KNOW IT TOO! Shove mass murdering Larry Silverstein up your asses! sane, I am sure you like Larry don't you? You love Larry don't you sane! What about Larry sane? Or PNAC group sane? Huh? What about those Zionists one and all ,sane? You think they are OK too don't you sane? Answer me! For the last fucking time here stop saying I hate "Jews" when I have said thousand of times it's Zionists I hate! Who have also murdered Jews too but you know all this don't you sane! Your just trying to defend your mass murdering Zionist friends by trying to discredit me is all! And trying to shift discussion away from facts that Mossad helped do 9-11 too are you sane? And the ICTS has been involved in 3 out of 4 bogus "terrorist attacks' too! Moderator, post my damn comments, the first time I would NOT have to retype them the second time! Now post this!
MIT: Building the Real Transformers
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...?
pagewanted=all
At the Humanoid Robotics Group at M.I.T., a robot ’s “humanoid” qualities can include fallibility and whininess as much as physical traits like head, arms and torso. But these early incarnations of sociable robots are also much more than meets the eye.
http://
www.cooperativeresearch.o...eytriedtowarnus
They Tried to Warn Us: Foreign Intelligence Warnings Before 9/11
***extract***
Some have claimed that the existence of this spy ring shows that Israel was behind the 9/11 attacks, an argument that is beyond the scope of this essay. But if the mainstream media is to be believed, Israel gave the US several specific warnings of the 9/11 attacks. In the second week of August 2001, two high-ranking agents from the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, came to Washington and warned the CIA and FBI that 50 to 200 al-Qaeda terrorists had slipped into the US and were planning an imminent “major assault on the US” aimed at a “large scale target” [Telegraph, 9/16/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01, Ottawa Citizen, 9/17/01 Fox News, 5/17/02]. Near the end of August, France also gave a warning that was an “echo” of Israel’s. [Fox News, 5/17/02]
Wikipedia and the Intelligence Services
http://english.ohmynews.com/arti...374006&
rel_no=1
I had learned from a recently released U.S. National Archives file that Shin Bet, the Israeli Security Agency, had infiltrated the PFLP and helped the Entebbe hijackers (Israeli commandos rescued the hostages in Uganda in 1976), so I wanted to learn more about the link between the PFLP and the PFLP-GC.
According to Fox News 4chan Is A Terrorist Organization
http://video.google.com/videopla...+Fox11&total=1&
Forget Al-Qaeda, Anonymous is the real terrorist! They are "hackers on steroids" who do not forget or forgive. They destroy peoples lives in order to get "lulz". They get BIG "lulz" from pulling random pranks. Lock your doors and shut your windows, there is no escaping them!
Good knight! New images found in Da Vinci's 'Last Supper'?
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...7/70725061/
1001
A computer analyst says he has discovered new images in Leonardo Da Vinci ’s “The Last Supper,” one of the world’s most loved religious paintings. But some experts were skeptical, dismissing the claim as another spin-off of Dan Brown’s best-selling novel “The Da Vinci Code.”
First Class Action Lawsuit Against Apple and AT&T
http://mashable.com/2007/07/27/a...action-lawsuit/
Apple and AT&T now have a class action lawsuit that’s been filed against them.
World Net Daily Attempts to Debunk Tillman Murder Evidence As Leftist Consp
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...bunktillman.htm
World Net Daily today sought to dismiss clear evidence that Pat Tillman was murdered by attempting to marginalize the issue as a leftist conspiracy theory and by suggesting Wesley Clark and Keith Olbermann didnt lend credence to the murder angle - when they clearly did.
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Ron Paul has more substance than any other candidate
http://www.transworldnews.com/
Ne...et=Default.aspx
Ron Paul will never avoid a question.
BushCo announces rewards for 9/11-backing Saudis
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...-
a_n_58202.html
The proposed $20-billion package of advanced weaponry for Saudi Arabia, which includes advanced satellite-guided bombs, upgrades to its fighters and new naval vessels, has made Israel and some of its supporters in Congress nervous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...related&
search=
PLease watch this good video!
Communes Make A Comeback In Australia
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/
...4559990249.html
"They are no longer run by hippies, anarchists and potheads but a much more familiar breed: the suburban professional concerned about climate change and soaring house prices; the cashed-up city slicker seeking a simpler life; and parents wanting space for their kids to play."
Tax Man Views Your House from Space to Reach New Highs
http://www.davickservices.com/
sa...elp_tax_man.htm
Tax authorities are using satellite images generated by a free program called Google Earth to re-evaluate your home values, track down fraud, and wage ‘real war’ on fiscal deficits.
CINDY SHEEHAN: Hillary Clinton 'my least favorite Dem'...
http://thehill.com/20-questions/...2007-05-
02.html
That figures....
Google Plans YouTube Antipiracy Tool for September
http://www.pcworld.com/
printable...printable.html#
YouTube will launch a system in September designed to prevent pirated material from going up on the site. Google plans to generate a library of digital video fingerprints that would be used to screen clips being uploaded to YouTube, said Philip Beck, one of the attorneys representing Google and YouTube.
Bush has helped drive a generation of young people into the Dem Party
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...ds-are-alright/
Once they make up their minds in their twenties which party they like better, they generally stick with it for the rest of their lives. So the Republican Party ’s deal with the devil to embrace the Christian Right might have helped them out for a while, but in the long term it’s a disaster.
The US Army begins using a new combat training for soldiers going to Iraq.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?
i=9...=92d_1185628915
The US Army begins using a new live fire combat training technology (MMSR) for soldiers going to Iraq and Afghanistan.
Los Angeles DWP in Crisis
By: Nicole Belle @ 11:31 AM - PDT
Our infrastructure is aging across the country, case in point the explosion in New York the other week. In Los Angeles, the workers at the Department and Water and Power have been warning for years that the DWP is just not prepared to respond to a heat wave, let alone a major disaster like a heat wave. They have no idea where the weak points in the system are, and equipment is decades past life expectancy. The DWP is vastly undermanned and it is putting the power supply and safe drinking water for millions at risk.
The workers have produced a video to draw public attention to the issue before it is too late. As one worker so bluntly puts it: “The infrastructure is on it’s last legs. It is ready to take a dump.”
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-dwp-in-crisis/
Who Killed John O'Neill?
http://video.google.com/
videopla...who+killed+john
911-TRUTHER i feel with you, You dare to badmouth the jews and the wrath of god `s own people comes down on you, even though i think you`re wrong for thinking that zionist are responsible you shuld still be able to express your opinion i dont think any one grup is responsible they all in on it im sure the israeli had something to do with it but the real criminals are bush and tricky dicky thats just my opinion though, they wont be able to hide this for long either the entire world knows, a large portion of americans know, the train ir rolling and the devil worshipers cant stop te truth no mather what they try next
Lars | 07.28.07 - 4:57 pm | #
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i feel for her too and do not think anyone should be bashed for expressing their opinion.
it is definitely not the place for a free society.
California State Voting Machines Fail Test Performed By Hackers
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/
ar...MNGP6R8TJO1.DTL
State-sanctioned teams of computer hackers were able to break through the security of virtually EVERY model of California's voting machines and change results or take control of some of the systems' electronic functions.
911-TRUTHER i feel with you, You dare to badmouth the jews and the wrath of god `s own people comes down on you, even though i think you`re wrong for thinking that zionist are responsible you shuld still be able to express your opinion i dont think any one grup is responsible they all in on it im sure the israeli had something to do with it but the real criminals are bush and tricky dicky thats just my opinion though, they wont be able to hide this for long either the entire world knows, a large portion of americans know, the train ir rolling and the devil worshipers cant stop te truth no mather what they try next
Judge Orders Lesbian Mom to Marry A Man Or Lose Her Kids
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/pe...ogs/peek/58196/
Jessica Valenti: A judge in Spanish child custody case links lesbians with satantic sects.
Bush | Modernized Wiretaps, Anyone? Everyone?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/
2...in3107310.shtml
The only thing more outrageous than the administration's call for even more unfettered power is a Congress that would consider giving it to them
Ron Paul Finishes 2nd in Georgetown SC Republican Straw Poll
http://ronpaul.typepad.com/my_we...aul-
finish.html
I just got off the phone with Tom Swatzel, chairman of the Georgetown County Republican Party. Here are the official results of the straw poll out of 223 votes cast: Fred Thompson - 102 Ron Paul - 40 Mitt Romney - 37 Duncan Hunter - 15 Rudy Giuliani - 13 John McCain - 7 Sam Brownback - 6 Newt Gingrich - 2 Daniel Gilbert - 1
U.S. to Sell Arms to Six Pro-Western Gulf States
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...mail/
components
In move to offset Iran's influence, White House plans its largest-ever weapons sale to allies in region, plus new aid packages for Egypt, Israel.
Irony alert: Microsoft, AT&T oppose Google/DoubleClick merger on antitrust
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/...st-
grounds.html
Over the weekend, executives from convicted monopolists Microsoft and AT&T both raised antitrust questions about the proposed merger between Google and DoubleClick, which could give the combined company control of 85 percent of the online advertising market.
What is the True Cost of Windows?
http://www.astralsin.com/archive...ost-of-windows/
Another memorable tale of the battle of Linux vs Windows and why switching to Linux can save you stress on the pocketbook and your sanity.
If Microsoft Joins In, Can Open Source be a "Revolution"?
http://www.technewsworld.com/rss...tory/
58552.html
Microsoft stopped fighting the existence of the Linux open source operating system Manage remotely with one interface and began selling it. Indeed, Microsoft was one of three diamond sponsors of the O'Reilly convention in Portland, Ore., last week. All this is not sitting well with some old revolutionaries.
Dining With Hitler In Asia: Hitler-themed Bars & Restaurants
http://www.who-sucks.com/people/...ars-
restaurants
Weird Hitler Themed Restaurants and Bars
Fox News Leaks Secret Files
http://www.astalavista.com/?sect...ils&
newsid=4036
FOX NEWS has been telling the world+dog about its doings thanks to an insecure web server. Insecurity experts found a gaping security hole in Fox News Network Web site which revealed file directories and sensitive content. Several directories were visible on a server for Fox News that should normally not be accessible by a Web browser over the
Ron Paul knows the Federal Reserve is...
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=0
Ron Paul knows exactly what this video goes to show. It's a long one, so sit back, and relax, and learn something. THEN you'll understand Candidate Paul's legislative positions, and you might just take a few of them with you!
Accountant Wins $662,363 in Whistleblower Suit against Police
http://www.davickservices.com/
ac...660000_suit.htm
Eric Heckmann, a former accountant with the City of Detroit was just doing his job when he wrote a letter to officials reporting what he believed to be evidence of financial misconduct within the police department...
Mike Gravel - On Soldiers Dying "In Vain" in Vietnam and Iraq
http://www.gravel2008.us/?q=node/1822
"Let me be clear: I believe our soldiers are both patriotic and professional, but they are dying unnecessarily because of the immoral decisions of our civilian leaders. ” The real threats now to a sane Middle East policy to stop the killing are the so-called “voices of reason” who advocate a “new direction” and a phased withdrawal..."
First Flight of X-48B Blended Wing Body Aircraft Prototype
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/the-r...type-
283547.php
Here's a pic of the new X-48B, Boeing's Blended Wing Body research aircraft in flight for the first time. The prototype, developed by Boeing Phantom Works with cooperation from NASA and the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory, flew for 31 minutes, reaching an altitude of 7,500 feet. Check the sexy gallery and jump for more details about the BWB.
Hiding the bad news
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...g-the-bad-news/
For some inexplicable reason, Republicans have been preoccupied for quite some time with Baghdad ’s electrical supply, pointing to it as one of the good-news stories that Americans allegedly don’t hear about.
UNANSWERED 9/11 MIRACLES
http://www.opednews.com/
articles...9_2f11_mira.htm
Eventually, hopefully during our lifetime, Pandora's Box will be fully opened regarding the 9/11 cover-up and the world will reel in shock and awe ~ when the monstrous truth is known to one and all : Allen L Roland
Sorry frauder, the anger quickie was fun but I gotta get back to work...
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Former telco chief jailed for six years
http://newsindetails.com/eng/bus...business/40572/
A US federal judge has handed Joseph Nacchio, former chief of imploded telecom giant Qwest, six years in prison for insider trading and ordered him to pay $US71 million ($83m).
911-TRUTHER //
Here's something for you to think about when it comes to 9/11 -- When we say that 9/11 was an inside job THAT MEANS that a rogue element operating from within our own government is the ones responsible. There may very well have been others employeed (follow the $$) to assist in this effort BUT the true culprits in 9/11 are homegrown crazies. Did those in power here within our government use patsies in their evil plans? Probably, most likely, sure. Did those in power here within our own government work hand in hand with some questionable foreign rogue element in assisting in the success of this plan -- again, mostly likely, probably, sure.
My point is -- 9/11 was an INSIDE job. Those are the guilty bastards we need to keep focus on and not allow ourselves to wander across town to other neighborhoods. Get these guys first and all the links will fall in place. Or so I think.
sane, Go f*ck yourself! Your stupidity is showing and your coverup of Ziionist involvement in 9-11 is showing too! You probably even think Larry Silverstein is OK too don't you? Why did two Mossad agents say when back in Israel sane they just wanted to "film the event"? How did they even know there was going to be an event to film sane? HOW? UNLESS THEY WERE PART OF IT!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 4:33 pm | #
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that's it baby, show me those fangs.
I love it when you post HATE, such a turn on.
Now stop beating around the bush, what do you really think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=TxKq9YZ76bk
Then this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...h? v=hqCcmy4lOkU
THEN THIS; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...h? v=8OyUoGUV7b8
How in HELL did they know there was even going to BE AN event to film? HOW? Unless they were in on IT!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 4:29 pm | #
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of course they were in on it who said they were not?
atta was in on it as a patsy
cheney was in on it as an instrumental piece of the NORAD equation
east german forces were in on it as part of the possible UN forces to enact martial law
deutche bank was in on it as far as the insider trading
all the news reporters were in on it as far as provideing dictated responses
giza trading in turkey is in on it
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saudi royals are in on it
WHY ARE YOU SO FOCUSED ON ONE RACE/NATION/RELIGION/RACE?????
What would that revolutionary jew think about your messages?
you know the one...JESUS.
some reliable military grade stuff and some .3oo win mag brass.......
What is this?
PNAC was the brainchild for 9/11.
That's right on! And ALL are Zionists too! ALL!
sane, Go f*ck yourself! Your stupidity is showing and your coverup of Ziionist involvement in 9-11 is showing too! You probably even think Larry Silverstein is OK too don't you? Why did two Mossad agents say when back in Israel sane they just wanted to "film the event"? How did they even know there was going to be an event to film sane? HOW? UNLESS THEY WERE PART OF IT!
Hey -- What about Major Kong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h?
v=ueuauKKjPZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h?
v=TxKq9YZ76bk
Then this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...h?
v=hqCcmy4lOkU
THEN THIS; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...h?
v=8OyUoGUV7b8
How in HELL did they know there was even going to BE AN event to film? HOW? Unless they were in on IT!
???????????????
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sane, And just so you know sane, Jesuits are part of pure evil NWO too! Do research!-9-11 frauder
sane, ALL of the pure evil PNAC group members are ALL Zionists, sane! What should that tell you? Hey?-9-11 frauder
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Well which is it? the jesuits, the zionists, the nazis, the chinese, the mexicans??????
or maybe it is a clever shadow that hijacks each group for its own fun and then leaves before the cannons go off.
dangit........gun show this weekend and nobody told me........
I know where I'll be all day tomorrow......
gonna trade off/sell some investment pieces and but some reliable military grade stuff and some .3oo win mag brass.......you can never have too much!!
http://911exposed.org/PNAC.htm
***extract***
PNAC was the brainchild for 9/11.
The events of 9/11 could not have been carried out by USama Bin Laden (CIA-asset name) — it was not possible for him to have completely dismantled the entire NORAD fighter response system. That should have been obvious from the get go, but the party line said that’s what happened, and with the Jewish controlled media — they made it so. The powers to be, have appropriated the newspeak of George Orwell’s 1984.
Those that were directly involved:
Richard Cheney – was the obvious leader of the coup. Cheney appeared to have been one of the main organizers as well as, he had exclusive OEM authority for the drills and exercises, as well as, coordinating the deceptive obstruction of the defense responses on 9/11. He was also instrumental in the cover-up and spin.
Donald Rumsfeld – was involved in designing the war games, implementing the disabling DoD directive, setting up the diversionary training, the shuffling in of patsies, and the massive cover-up operation at the Pentagon and Shanksville.
Lewis “Scooter” Libby – Chief of Staff for the Vice President, one of Cheney’s most trusted advisors and a member of his shadow government. He was one of the “chosen few” that were in the White House bunker with Cheney. No doubt, he was one of those behind-the-scenes characters that piloted the spin machine.
Robert James Woolsey – as former director of the CIA, he was involved in designing the terrorist exercises. He personally participated in several important exercises that were utilized to test the responses of key personnel. Did his intelligence connections play a role? He was one of the first to spin the story to the media, blaming the attack on Iraq.
Dov S. Zakheim – previously he was CEO of System Planning Corp. Appears to have used his connections at System Planning Corp. for the remote technology (see below). He is alleged to have been involved in a massive embezzlement at the Pentagon when he was comptroller, which appears to have prompted his resigning. Did the accounting fraud finance the neocon’s 9/11 operation?
George Bush Sr. – ex-head of CIA, and ex-President, worked through his Carlyle Group associations with his friends in the Bin Laden family. He would be instrumental in Saudi diplomacy.
George Bush Jr. – played his role as the idiot-in-chief. He was also active in the cover-up and spin. Bush used his office to promote the USama Bin Laden and WMD fables, while dishing out toxic levels of propaganda to support his “War of Terror”.
General Meyers – During 9/11, he was the acting Joint Chief of Staff. It would have been impossible to carry out the attacks without his complacent cooperation.
Paul Wolfowitz – as Deputy Secretary of Defense, he headed a group of about 700 military experts. The huge “think tank” had formulated plans to remove Saddam Hussein and for the invasion of Iraq.
sane, And just so you know sane, Jesuits are part of pure evil NWO too! Do research!
A nice little collection of facts regarding LARRY SILVERSTEIN:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.co...com/
cutter.html
sane, ALL of the pure evil PNAC group members are ALL Zionists, sane! What should that tell you? Hey?
I realize that the "side 2" may have some validity, but at this point i feel side 1 is overwhelming and for me its the only way to go.
ak48 | 07.28.07 - 3:56 pm | #
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i do not understand...there are 2 sides and you [like I] use side 1 to understand the nature of NWO that has existed long before jews [elites wanting to enslave the world in pyramidic fashion].
but others use side 2 to promote another agenda [a.k.a. 911 frauder]
prescott bush, chaim weitzmann what is the difference, both elitests that would kill billions if given the chance to ensure elites rule.
BTW - what do you think of this guy?
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Published Saturday, July 7, 2007
MY FATHER, THE NAZI Miami Doctor, a Convert to Judaism, Kept Secret For Years His Father's Identity
http://www.theledger.com/article.../707070383/
1326
By JOHN DORSCHNERMcClatchy Newspapers
PETER ANDREW BOSCH/The Miami Herald
Dr. Bernd Wollschlaeger speaks to a patient at his practice in Miami recently. Wollschlaeger was born into a Catholic family in Germany but later served in the Israeli Defense Forces. Bernd Wollschlaeger has two stories to tell. First, he's a former officer in the Israel Defense Forces, a physician who developed expertise in biological warfare. He lives in Miramar, runs a family practice in North Miami Beach, has become a legislative leader of the American Medical Association and is active in local Jewish causes.
He was born the Christian son of a World War II German tank commander - a third-generation warrior who received Deutschland's highest military honor, the Iron Cross, which was pinned on his uniform by Adolf Hitler himself.
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Is he a Nazi, a Zionist, an American? Why was he quickly promoted to bioterrorism expert, is there not some security clearance needed for this? Why was he promoted to a position of power in the AMA?
Might he be a part of something more evil that changes costumes as he leaves a race/nation/religion to be used as cannon fodder as the wizards are protected?
Sane wants people to believe that I don't know the diffence between Jews and Zionists! He wants people here to see me as some type of "racist" instead of focusing on FACTS about Israeli, i.e.Mossad involvement in 9-11! He wants people to think I am a racist to hide facts that Mossad was involved in 9-11 and that Israel HAS before MURDERED American's plenty of times and even former Mossad agent says so too! Zionists KILL Jews too, sane! Or maybe you like Zioniist and mass murdering, insurance frauder Larry Silverstein who was ALSO involved in 9-11 sane! You know damn good and well Larry was involved and he IS a Zionist too!
And speaking oif 9/11 --
The Clue Everyone Missed
(Video -- 9 min; 40 sec)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...related&
search=
9/11: Three WTC survivors in explosive interview --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...Q5qVkJ0-hs&
NR=1
Digg Faces New Accusations Of Censorship: An Inside Look
http://blogcritics.org/archives/...4/21/
135355.php
This is obviously something of an inside baseball type of story, but gets right at some significant issues within the Digg community specifically and this type of site generally. I am a contributor (not management) at Blogcritics, but am pushing this story here without consulting anyone- and in fact against the express wishes of the author.
Jesuits say take word of God to Second Life
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/
20070...diWQC5ImD2s0NUE
ROME (Reuters) - Catholic missionaries have always trekked to dangerous parts of the Earth to spread the word of God -- now they are being encouraged to go into the virtual realm of Second Life to save virtual souls.
Sane, personally i see nazis as the least of our problems. Stalin had the same financial backers as Hitler and if they want a new wave of antisemitism they will create it. I see this as a very likely scenario, here´s an example of how they are drumming up the fear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...h?
v=nkCTH7LK7OU
And that´s just one example, most countries in Europe already have the fearmongering in overdrive.
Put that in the context of this cute quote:
"Millions of Jews are dust on the wheels of history that will have to be blown away. They must accept their fate. We do not want them crowding into our Tel Aviv, turning it into a low-grade ghetto,"
Thats from 1937, the author was this man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cha.../
Chaim_Weizmann
After WWII he went on to become the first president of Israel. It´s a bit bizarre that he should make predictions of the holocaust several years before it started unless he had prior knowledge.
To put it bluntly, I think they wanna give the holocaust another try and by not making the distinction we may possible lend credibility to a few beer drinking skinheads but we may actually prevent another genocide. I realize that the "side 2" may have some validity, but at this point i feel side 1 is overwhelming and for me its the only way to go.
CNN/YouTube Debate Postponed
http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/r...utube-
deba.html
Are they scared of Ron Paul?
>>>NWO ranked #1 Scariest YouTube Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...WyJJQbFago&
NR=1
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http://www.robert-fisk.com/
iraqw...ims_mar2003.htm
http://www.gensuikin.org/english...lish/
photo.html
We culd also enjoy those pictures and sing Amazing grace together, My point is neither Americans or Israeli are evil we are ALL being used by the ellites,
There is no war on the middle class? I guess this explains why some cant figure it out
ak48 | 07.28.07 - 3:15 pm |
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As a matter of clarification, I meant no disrespect to you or your very interesting links regarding the downfall of our education system here in the USA.
In fact, if you'll search further down (lost among all those many rants that exploded upon the screen -- another topic) you'll see I posted something very similar. One of the links is an exact match.
Suppose something of this nature needs repeating. A sad state of affairs (education wise -- no pun intended) for sure.
subpoena???The White House subpoena? They don't even answer questions when compelled by the People via Congress..SO FUCK OFF BUSH.... YOU'RE HISTORY!
his references are pretty much first rate and not highly publicized.
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 3:33 pm |
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And what wall is there keeping others from jumping in and doing what we've been witness to already? Huh? This is a subject with the same explosive material as religion // people are gonna get off on rants that really serve no true purpose, nothing has ever been done as regards religion and/or politics.
Fight them over there so we won't have to fight them over here // Again, I must ask: Where's the wall keeping that from happening, either? There isn't one. Makes about as little sense as trying to keep discussion between one or two people in an open forum.
My point, probably not well relayed, lost on a few, but attempted nevertheless.
Lindorff are you really so stupid?????
What the hell do you think all the Russian & East German (UN) troops are doing here? Kissinger & David Rockefeller have been promising them to us for years. After the Rodney King incident, Kissinger boldly declared the day would come when we BEG for UN troops to keep the peace in our streets. You're either dumb & stupid, or deliberately acting dumb & stupid. Either way, you make me sick!
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/...y/
children2.htm
Lets enjoy the pictures together and sing Hava nagila holding hands, gess
lol
Lars | 07.28.07 - 3:26 pm | #
Oh God, here we go again. Wait for it --
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 3:23 pm | #
I do not communicate with AK48 like I do with 911 frauder
AK48 uses rational thought, evidence, reference, logic.
his references are pretty much first rate and not highly publicized.
We have got to make sure that the elections dont get derailed by another emergency -- like an inside job terrorist attack!
Sane i noticed your debate with 911 truther. I hope you are not confusing zionists with jews, they are two very different things you know...
Making the distinction is probably one of the most important thing to focus on because there is a new wave of antisemitism being built up and it´s mainly orchestrated by the zionists. They did the same in WWII. Rabbi Antleman has a few very interesting pointers on this topic.
ak48 | 07.28.07 - 3:21 pm | #
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C'mon what do you take me for?
read 9-11 truther over the past few weeks and I think it becomes quite obvious the difference between the zionists are not jews argument that has 2 sides to it:
side 1 - zionists are not jews argument allows people to see clearly that many zionist fuckheads do not in any way represent the jewish people just like nazis do not represent the german people or the vatican does not represent all christians
side 2 - the zionists are not jews argument allows the american nazi party and other racists to diffuse obvious racist comments to be seen as not racist in an attempt to gain sentiment toward diverting attention from the various heads of the NWO monster and only focusing on one target. just like saying only nazis are the root of all evil or only the jesuits are the cause of all suffering.
These guys are quite decptive on so many levels.
lol
Oh God, here we go again. Wait for it --
Sane i noticed your debate with 911 truther. I hope you are not confusing zionists with jews, they are two very different things you know...
Making the distinction is probably one of the most important thing to focus on because there is a new wave of antisemitism being built up and it´s mainly orchestrated by the zionists. They did the same in WWII. Rabbi Antleman has a few very interesting pointers on this topic.
911-TRUTHER // No.
If you had watched the video clip I provided it is clear that someone (??) told Guiliani about the towers coming down BUT who that is is NEVER explained. It is more complicated BECAUSE the man today claims NO ONE told him anything of the sorts. Well, that's bullshit, forum friend.
And the good ol' 9/11 Commission never really pursued the matter either. Guess they didn't think it too important to KNOW who in the hell it was that notified the Mayor to get out of the buildings because the towers were coming down. Hey, that just might be important. Turned into another wheelbarrow full of bullshit // Maybe horseshit instead.
You surely can understand my point, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h? v=pfRUMmTs0ZA
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Dumbing-Do...s/dp/ 0312148232
http://www.boston.com/news/globe...erican_readers/
There is no war on the middle class? I guess this explains why some cant figure it out
ak48 | 07.28.07 - 3:15 pm | #
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HOLY SHIT WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN???????????????????????????????????
thank god you are back, we desperately need more of your info....
gimme gimme gimme
Yes, sane Murdoch is a Zionist just like Larry, mass murdering, insurance frauder Silverstein is too! I suppose you like Larry too right?
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:59 pm | #
OK time for a little reality:
Woody Allen, Larry Silverstein, and Rupert Murdoch all have some serious fucking yellow fever and have married asian women less than half their age.
all men i think are fucking pigs and a disgrace to the human race, not for their malaria but because of their contempt for morals and human life.
silverstein knew about 9/11 and was an accomplice to at least the cover up.
murdoch took an amendment to the US constitution and ripped it to fucking shreds
and allen fucked his girlfriend's daughter and then married her.
these people are so fucked up it is hard to believe they are not in prison.
(snip) Isn't stopping the next false flag attacks more important?
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 3:11 pm |
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That's a baited question. It's like the Congress feels it's more important to focus on getting our troops home than it would be to take up the matter of impeaching Cheney and/or Bush.
Seems to me if we get rid of those guys then other things might very easily fall into place -- like getting our troops home. Guiliana is a true problem // he has 9/11 dripping all over him // he is a serious contender for President of the USA (I know I don't need tell you any of that, you know this) -- but saying stopping a false flag operation is more important // Hell, it's SUPER IMPORTANT, but we won't get there calling each other names that's for sure.
My continuing $.02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h?
v=pfRUMmTs0ZA
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Dumbing-Do...s/dp/
0312148232
http://www.boston.com/news/globe...erican_readers/
There is no war on the middle class? I guess this explains why some cant figure it out
jbrid1138, Sorry, I meant to say Office of Emergency Management told him that! Sorry! Not budget sorry! I meant to sayOffice of Emergency Management told Rudy!
jbrid1138, I have posted here several times WHO told Rudy that and it was Office of Budget Management I believe! And stopping the next false flag attacks IS important! And I am NOT a "racist" or anything but telling the truth here! 3 out of 4 terrorist attacks have occurred at places where an Israeli security firm of ICTS has security at! NO accident! NO damn coincidence! Isn't stopping the next false flag attacks more important?
Hey ATHF -- got some advice for you // not that I truly expect you to follow it // but why not provide a link (a reference) and NOT the entire damn article // it sends others to the bottom of the page.
What the hell would we expect to see if you wanted to show us something in the Washington Post (those articles can go on for page after page) // get focused. Please.
sane, I NEVER said they did it along Goddamn!
I meant to say alone NOT along! sane, ISRAEL FUCKING ADMITTED TO LETTING REID BOARD THAT PLANE! Do you hear me!? Earth to sane, ISRAEL HAS ADMITTED TO LETTING REID BOARD THAT PLANE!
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sane, I NEVER said they did it along Goddamn! But do you honestly think a security firm with ties to Mossad who was involved in 3 out of 4 of terrorist attacks were NOT involved!? WHO FUCKING ADMITTED LETTING RICHARD REID BOARD THAT PLANE? COME ON sane, how fucking stupid do you think we all are here? I NEVER said they did it ALONE! And ALL they would have to do is LET Mossad agents board those planes, subways, railroads,etc. and that is fucking exactly what they did do!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:56 pm | #
Dang, Truther, you pissed off eh sumfin?
lol
{Question: with the sheer amount of this type of "war" going on all over the world, ya think the
"islamists" might be just as opossed to the N.W.O as some of you bloggers?? hummmm,I wonder??}
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- Investigators sifted through the wreckage of a bombed-out restaurant in Pakistan's capital and scoured a government database on Saturday to try to identify the remains of a suicide attacker who killed 13 people a day earlier.
Officials also vowed to launch a top-level inquiry into why intelligence that warned of a potential attack at the busy downtown marketplace where Friday's blast occurred was not acted upon to prevent the attack.
Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao told The Associated Press that a joint task force of federal police and intelligence agencies was formed to investigate the blast, which targeted security forces and injured 71 people, mostly bystanders.
The attack at the open-air restaurant frequented by police happened shortly after protesters clashed with authorities as the city's Red Mosque reopened for the first time since the army ousted Islamic militants in a bloody raid two weeks ago.
Police found a torso and head among the wreckage they believe are the remains of a suicide bomber.
Sherpao said identification of the remains was being hampered because they were mangled in the blast. A search of the national identity card database had so far failed to reveal any leads, he said.
"We don't have any information with regard to the suicide bomber," he said.
The blast was the latest in a string of militant revenge attacks on government forces and deepened the security crisis facing embattled President Gen. Pervez Musharraf.
Interior Ministry spokesman Javed Iqbal Cheema said late Friday the government had received intelligence about a possible suicide bombing in the Aabpara market where the attack happened Friday.
He said there would be an official inquiry into the security lapse, but he also blamed the mosque unrest for creating the conditions in which an attacker could strike.
"If these people had not created such a situation it would not have happened," he said, adding the mosque was now indefinitely closed.
Authorities had hoped to restore normalcy to the once-staid Pakistani capital by reopening the Lal Masjid, or Red Mosque, to the public, more than two weeks after the commando raid that dislodged militant supporters of the mosque's pro-Taliban clerics. More than 100 people died.
But religious students on Friday staged protests inside the mosque compound and occupied it for several hours.
They daubed red paint onto the walls and dome to restore its namesake color after a government restoration left it pale yellow. They also rose a black flag with two crossed swords -- meant to symbolize jihad, or holy war. Street battles then broke out between stone-throwing protesters and police using tear gas.
Soon after, a huge blast went off in the restaurant at the Muzaffar Hotel, located in a crowded Aabpara market about a quarter-mile from the mosque.
Khalid Pervez, Islamabad's top administrator, said 13 people were killed, including seven police, and 71 others were wounded.
Police retook control of the mosque after the bombing, arresting about 50 people.
The deteriorating security situation in the capital adds to the sense of crisis overhanging Musharraf's administration. He is under pressure from the U.S. to tackle militancy, amid intelligence reports that al-Qaida is regrouping at the Afghan frontier.
{Only difference is, THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING,
not just writing what they WILL do!}
Yes, sane Murdoch is a Zionist just like Larry, mass murdering, insurance frauder Silverstein is too! I suppose you like Larry too right?
Hey, come on now guys STOP trying to get my point (my Post) lost with your lengthy rants.
I feel this Guiliani and his notification of the WTC collapse far out weights any racial bias you may or may not possess.
Here it is one more time:
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Listen to the man say he didn't know the towers were gonna collapse // NOT what he said earlier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h?
v=qu5NbBzNa4Y
The question was asked (and remains unanswered) -- Who Told Him This?
Compare that video with this information --
A harmless little quote from the New Yorker (November 2001):
"I thought, Somebody's got to tell the Fire Department to get out of there," Loizeaux told me. "I picked up the phone, dialled 411, got the number, and tried it--busy. So I called the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management"--which was in 7 World Trade. "All circuits were busy. I couldn't get through."
-- MARK LOIZEAUX // President of Controlled Demolitions, Inc.
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In the article we read that MARK went on to say he knew 'within a nanosecond' that the towers were gonna fall and in which order they would fall.
He said this also: "Let me tell you something. Far more people would have died if those buildings had been built differently. A conventional frame building would have fallen immediately--no question. Only a tube structure could have taken that hit and survived."
Again, a truly amazing prediction (knowing within a nanosecond) coming from someone who conducts building demolition as a routine (is credited with over 7000 worldwide) and knew that about the construction of the WTC (i.e., tube structure) but apparently didn't KNOW that NO steel-framed high-rise building had ever before in history collapsed due to fire.
He said he didn't -- but do you honestly THINK he didn't get through to the Mayor's Office that day?
sane, I NEVER said they did it along Goddamn!
I meant to say alone NOT along! sane, ISRAEL FUCKING ADMITTED TO LETTING REID BOARD THAT PLANE! Do you hear me!? Earth to sane, ISRAEL HAS ADMITTED TO LETTING REID BOARD THAT PLANE!
sane, I NEVER said they did it along Goddamn! But do you honestly think a security firm with ties to Mossad who was involved in 3 out of 4 of terrorist attacks were NOT involved!? WHO FUCKING ADMITTED LETTING RICHARD REID BOARD THAT PLANE? COME ON sane, how fucking stupid do you think we all are here? I NEVER said they did it ALONE! And ALL they would have to do is LET Mossad agents board those planes, subways, railroads,etc. and that is fucking exactly what they did do!
I NEED TO FIX ONE OF MY OWN QUOTES -- Sorry
He said he did -- but do you honestly THINK he didn't get through to the Mayor's Office that day?
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 2:46 pm |
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That should read: He said he didn't -- etc., etc
Murdoch's Deeply Hidden Jewish Roots -- A Biography
By Christopher Bollyn – American Free Press
Christopher Bollyn is an investigative journalist who has written extensively on the events of September 11, 2001 in the Washington-based American Free Press. He has researched different aspects of the 9/11 attacks and uncovered facts and evidence that challenge the official version of events. tried to smear Bollyn as an “anti-Semite” in order to discredit him and diminish the significance of his work. At the helm of both organizations, the ADL and Fox News, is an Australian-born Zionist named Keith Rupert Murdoch.
Murdoch's Jewish Roots
Murdoch “became an American citizen for business reasons,” according to Richard H. Curtiss, editor of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Keith Rupert was born in Melbourne, Australia, on March 11, 1931. “Rupert’s father, Sir Keith Murdoch, was a newspaper publisher, and his mother an Orthodox Jew,” Curtiss wrote, “although Murdoch never offers that information in his biographies.”
Murdoch’s father married Elisabeth Joy Greene, daughter of Rupert Greene in 1928. They had one son, Keith Rupert and three daughters. Later in life, Keith Rupert chose to use Rupert, the first name of his Jewish maternal grandfather.
The young Keith Rupert was educated at Australia’s fashionable Geelong private school, and went on to the elitist and aristocratic Oxford University in England, according to Candour (UK) magazine.
“Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town,” Candour wrote in 1984. “For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew.”
While Murdoch may have “tried to hide” his Jewish roots, he has been quite forthright about his support for extreme right-wing Zionists, such as Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon.
Netanyahu, who wrote a book entitled The War on Terror: How the West Can Win in 1986, is a frequent commentator on Murdoch’s Fox News.
Murdoch’s support for Zionism extremists is well known and a matter of record. As New York Governor George Pataki said, “There is no newspaper in the U.S. more supportive of Israel than the [Murdoch’s] New York Post.”
It is through a network of Zionist organizations, in which Murdoch plays a central role, that Murdoch is connected to the individuals who arranged the privatization – and obtained control of the World Trade Center – shortly before its destruction.
These key individuals are: Larry Silverstein and the former Israeli commando Frank Lowy, the lease holders of dubious repute who gained control of the WTC property six weeks before 9/11, and Port Authority Chairman Lewis M. Eisenberg, who authorized the transfer of the leases.
Lowy leased the shopping concourse called the Mall at the World Trade Center, which comprised about 427,000 square feet of retail space.
“Six weeks before the WTC towers were destroyed, the Port Authority completed the process of leasing them for 99 years to Larry Silverstein, the developer who had built 7 World Trade Center [which mysteriously self-demolished at 5:25 p.m. on 9/11].
“Simultaneously, the retail space underneath the complex was leased to Westfield America, the US division of an Australian company that is one of the world’s largest operators of shopping malls.” Paul Goldberger wrote in New Yorker, May 20, 2002.
“Silverstein and Westfield were given the right to rebuild the structures if they were destroyed, and Westfield has the right to expand the retail space by 30 percent,” Goldberger wrote.
Silverstein is suing for some $7.2 billion in insurance money for the loss of the destroyed World Trade Center – and his expected earnings – for property he had leased with a down payment of $100 million – of borrowed funds.
YES, SANE, MURDOCH IS A ZIONIST! Along with Larry, mass murderer Silverstein too! I suppose you like Larry too right:Murdoch's Deeply Hidden Jewish Roots -- A Biography
By Christopher Bollyn – American Free Press
Christopher Bollyn is an investigative journalist who has written extensively on the events of September 11, 2001 in the Washington-based American Free Press. He has researched different aspects of the 9/11 attacks and uncovered facts and evidence that challenge the official version of events. tried to smear Bollyn as an “anti-Semite” in order to discredit him and diminish the significance of his work. At the helm of both organizations, the ADL and Fox News, is an Australian-born Zionist named Keith Rupert Murdoch.
Yes, sane Murdoch is a Zionist just like Larry, mass murdering, insurance frauder Silverstein is too! I suppose you like Larry too right?
A while back, Alex Jones called for a leftist or liberal to come up with a platform to match Congressman Paul's conservative Constitutionalist approach. I've tried to fit the bill with the following. I'll try to get back on Monday to answer as many responses as I can.
I guess you could call me a Milwaukee Kraut Socialist that Scotty beamed into the present from about 1960, by which I mean that I’m basically in line with the Socialist Party’s old program, except that, unlike today’s establishment Left, I see the so-called “Gains of the 1960’s” (with the obvious exception of the Southern civil rights movement) as constituting the deliberately contrived economic and social demolition of the American working class. (Actually, the leaders of the establishment Left also see things that way, because they happen, for the most part, to be the very ruling class bastards that accomplished that feat in the first place!)
I was once a dyed-in-the-wool Socialist, who believed in public sector proprietorship of major economic enterprise. However, recent world history has shown that such may be inefficient and counterproductive, and therefore I would seek to limit public sector involvement in the economic life of the nation to utilities (including the entire energy sector (yes, nationalize the oil companies!)), transportation, major finance (i.e., the Federal Reserve System and all its primary institutional proprietors must be confiscated from the private sector and the issuance of money must become a state monopoly), and all work related to war production (in line with former U.S. Marine Corps Commandant Smedley Butler’s plea to “take the profit out of war!). Work conditions, wages, and prices for staple goods should be subject to public regulation. There must be mandatory labor representation in all major corporate Chief Executive, Chief Financial, and Chief Operating offices. The protection of the interests of the family farmer and small businessman against major capital should be a primary focus of the law enforcement activity of the State, and eminent domain takings of realty for private use must be abolished. All free trade zone treaties should be renounced, and a stiff tariff should be imposed on goods and services produced abroad by U.S. businesses for the U.S. market to discourage "offshoring" of American jobs.
Welfare State: The ancient West Germanic societies which served as Jefferson’s model for his ideas of democracy relied on a strong sense of familial responsibility to encourage fit young men to share their gain with their weak, lame, juvenile and elderly relatives; larger scale societies simply cannot accomplish the same end without state compulsion to some degree; perhaps welfare should be handled locally much more than it is currently, and should be geared toward eventual self-sufficiency for each family for which such is possible. It should also conform to the proposals outlined in the Moynihan Report of 1965, to foster the maintenance of families rather than their dissolution.
Concluding from the preceding point, it seems obvious that a welfare state needs strong borders to prevent its being overwhelmed by the needy of the world. The ruling class uses illegal immigration to lower prevailing wage rates in the US and to impede labor organization. While this is clearly the fault of our own rulers, and not of the wretched of the earth, the above observations clarify the imperative that no general amnesty for illegal immigrants be granted on anywhere near so grand a scale as the current bills before congress (i.e., 20 million illegal immigrants). Aid to foreign nations in need should be granted, but within the reasonable limits of each grantor nation, and such aid should be geared towards assisting societies in attaining economic independence and self-sufficiency.
Middle East: The current U.S. involvement in Iraq was initially undertaken on the basis of a lie, is now foundering as our Army and Marine Corps are being ground down by insurgents, is teaching the entire world how to fight us, is currently being manned by abusing the reserve system and our reservists, and is bankrupting us financially. Every scenario as to the damage our withdrawal from the region might precipitate is already coming true even as our troops sit there, unable to influence events for the better. Immediate withdrawal is the only feasible possibility at this time.
The US presence in the Middle East, although perhaps a stimulus to Islamist anti-US violence, doesn’t explain a lengthy history of Islamist violence against societies with no presence or discernable interest in the Middle East, a history so lengthy and comprehensive as to allow the conclusion that there are few important recent examples of Moslems living peacefully with their non-Moslem neighbors. I believe that, in recognition of Israel’s role as a valuable Western ally during the Cold War period, of the religious sensibilities of a clear majority of Americans concerning the Holy Land, and of her modernity and advancement relative to all other states in the region, that the U.S. should continue a close relationship with the State of Israel.
However, I have nothing except support for the surviving crew members of USS Liberty, and for the survivors of the fatal victims and of those who have since died of causes unrelated to the atrocity of June 8, 1967. I demand a full, impartial, nonpartisan and independent investigation into that incident, as well as full prosecution for anyone deemed liable for the attack itself or for the subsequent cover up.
At the same time, I cannot help but notice that the primary impetus for the continuing cover up seems to be coming from the American side: the issuance, by the Israel Defense Force, on May 26, 2005 of a document which effectively destroys any credibility that A. Jay Cristol’s book “The Liberty Incident”, the document of documents of the official story, may once have enjoyed, convinces me that the Israelis are no longer interested in maintaining the cover up.
I also call for a full, impartial, nonpartisan and independent investigation into any untoward foreign or corporate involvement in the decisions to invade Afghanistan and Iraq and to attack Iran.
Constitutional Issues: The direct election of United Sates Senators, which seems to many to be a progressive step toward greater democracy, has actually had the effect of greatly weakening the states vis-ŕ-vis the Federal government, thus concentrating power in a more remote and less locally responsive entity than the state legislatures, which elected U.S. Senators prior to the ratification of the XVII Amendment. Therefore, the XVII Amendment should be repealed. The XVI Amendment, on the other hand, was never actually ratified by the required number of states and should be dismissed by executive order. Such dismissal shall include the abolition of the Internal Revenue Service and of the Federal Income Tax as currently unlawfully assessed and levied. The Second Amendment is hereby and herewith incorporated in its entirety into this platform by reference, with the final fourteen words of that Amendment emphasized, in memory of Fred Hampton and Mark Clark.
Moral and Life Issues: The current push for same-sex marriages and civil unions seems to me to be not so much of a phenomenon in itself, but rather a symptom of the breakdown of family life in America ever since the so-called “gains of the 1960’s” were introduced to destroy the social organization of the working class, as well as a means of furthering the ruling class plan to render the masses immune to logic and susceptible to bourgeois nonsense. The existence of an interest on the part of human societies in protecting and fostering heterosexual unions is suggested by the fact that the male and female genitalia, when joined together, become a single functioning anatomical system, capable of producing new human life. Thus, to the extent that society has a right to protect and foster sexual relationships, same-sex partnerships do not really constitute sexual relationships at all, as erotic activity between members of the same sex, lacking even the potential for fulfilling the essential biological function of sexual organs, does not constitute sex in any meaningful use of the term. Unions involving sterile or overaged couples may be distinguished from same-sex unions in that they do not display the emphatic biological futility of same-sex unions. As same-sex couples provide an unnatural and counterproductive environment in which to raise children, adoption by same-sex couples should not be permitted. The need for medical benefits for same-sex partners of workers is an indication of a need for a universal health care system, not for same-sex marriages or civil unions.
I am opposed to the continued legalization of abortion and capital punishment, as these institutions allows the legal protection of the life of an at least potentially human being to be contingent upon another human being's evaluation of the worthiness of that life, creating a preceedent too dangerous to stand.
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You gotta be fucking kidding me right? 130 employees did 9/11, 7/7?
What about the 10,000 employees at this guy's company
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...h?v=n9Xd7zT-
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What about the media, what about the politicians?
what about the church, Deutche bank, NORAD, UK?????
Listen to the man say he didn't know the towers were gonna collapse // NOT what he said earlier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h?
v=qu5NbBzNa4Y
The question was asked (and remains unanswered) -- Who Told Him This?
Compare that video with this information --
A harmless little quote from the New Yorker (November 2001):
"I thought, Somebody's got to tell the Fire Department to get out of there," Loizeaux told me. "I picked up the phone, dialled 411, got the number, and tried it--busy. So I called the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management"--which was in 7 World Trade. "All circuits were busy. I couldn't get through."
-- MARK LOIZEAUX // President of Controlled Demolitions, Inc.
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In the article we read that MARK went on to say he knew 'within a nanosecond' that the towers were gonna fall and in which order they would fall.
He said this also: "Let me tell you something. Far more people would have died if those buildings had been built differently. A conventional frame building would have fallen immediately--no question. Only a tube structure could have taken that hit and survived."
Again, a truly amazing prediction (knowing within a nanosecond) coming from someone who conducts building demolition as a routine (is credited with over 7000 worldwide) and knew that about the construction of the WTC (i.e., tube structure) but apparently didn't KNOW that NO steel-framed high-rise building had ever before in history collapsed due to fire.
He said he did -- but do you honestly THINK he didn't get through to the Mayor's Office that day?
STOP BEING A FUCKING NAZI
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 2:40 pm | #
see i can do all caps too nya nya
sane, Murdoch IS a Zionist sane! FACT! WHY in hell just once don't you put America's security first sane, why not?
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:33 pm | #
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you are the weasel breaking down America's security by rambling nonsense without going beyond the surface just like 99% of us did on 9/12/2001
how much did you help our security then?
you ignore the 1,000,000 threats to this republic by playing into the wizards game of focusing on one small issue that divides many.
CAN YOU PLEASE PUT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY FIRST AND STOP SELLING OUT TO THE 4TH REICH?????
STOP BEING A FUCKING NAZI
We Goddamn need to find out asap where ICTS has security at if we are to STOP the next false flag attacks and fast! And DEMAND the immediate reversal of any security that was placed in Israeli hands too, back to American hands ONLY and NOT ANY other nation's either! PERIOD! To let ANY other nation have control of our security is TREASON PERIOD! AND MUST BE REVERSED AND NOW!
sane, Murdoch IS a Zionist sane! FACT! WHY in hell just once don't you put America's security first sane, why not?
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:33 pm | #
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Murdoch a zionist? the same murdoch that wants the second coming of christ through the destruction of israel, the same murdoch that sold out our media to chinese interests to his chinese [1/3rd his age wife?
Lars, We MUST stop next attacks first, which is WHY we need to find out where ICTS has security at! And fast! Plus, stock up on all survival gear too! And urgently DEMAND ALL OUR SECURITY HERE BE DONE BY AMERICAN'S AND AMERICA AND NO,NO OTHER NATION INCLUDING ISRAEL! We can NOT allow ANY of our security to be in ANY other nation's hands including Israel's! PERIOD!
as cap't sparrow said, "i believe i deserved that"
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 2:27 pm |
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// Now that's funny.
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 2:29 pm | #
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I think it is quite obvious how much of a dick i am, for me to lye about it would surely damage my credibility
sane, Murdoch IS a Zionist sane! FACT! WHY in hell just once don't you put America's security first sane, why not?
Elites are evil scum no mather where they came from, but how is infighting going to help us save Us, first things firs lets deal with bush first then we can go down the list, my israel comment is from waching a tv programme about american churches and the Israel worship there was strange to wach i just culdnt understand why. Jbird i hope you saw my apoligy to you about the Pat Tillman post sorry bro sometimes i miss the point with the language diference and all, One stange thing from here on the day of the (atack) 9-11 our public service chanels all showed Fox news all day and night why not cnn or bbc or euronews?
the plan is to have the middle east start WWIII
WRONG, sane the plan is to have Bush start WWIII after another false flag attack blamed on Iran, done by probably with help from Israeli Mossag again! Through ICTS security too!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:27 pm | #
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your logic is mind-bending
Tom says: x=y
Jack says: WRONG TOM,
a+b = x
and
a+b=y
therefore...X=Y
DAMN IT!!!!!!
STOP LYING TO EVERYONE TOM YOU ZIONIST PIG WHO DENDS ISRAEL!!!!!!
you really have no clue what you cause by singling out one race do you?
sane
For the Last fucking time moron, have I ever said here ALL Jews are bad HELL NO! I have NOT! Have I ever accused ALL Jews of being behind 9-11, NO! You KNOW I have NOT done that! It is NOT all of Israel who is bad just leaders, just like ALL of America is not bad either just Bush and cohorts in Congress! I have NEVER SAID ALL JEWS ARE Bad ! What I have said is all zionists are pure evil and they ARE! Ziioinists sane NOT Jews! Zionists who have murdered Jews too! I HAVE NEVER NEVER IN ALL MY POSTS CONDEMNED ANY TOTAL RACE OR RELGION EXCEPT THOSE WHO WORSHIP SATAN!
as cap't sparrow said, "i believe i deserved that"
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 2:27 pm |
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// Now that's funny.
I actualy agree im from europe and the israell worshiping by the american peole is beyond my mind,
Lars
That's because we have been soo Goddamn brainwashed by Zionist owned media for years! And remember what Zionist David Rockefeller said about media keeping secret the NWO agenda too!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:25 pm | #
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zionist owned media????
>>CEOS IN THE MEDIA IN AMERICA
National Amusement (CBS/Viacom): Sumner Redstone
Subsidiaries:
-Viacom: Philippe P. Dauman
-CBS: Les Moonves
GE (NBC): Jeffrey Immelt
Subsidiary:
-NBC: Jeff Zucker took over in 2/6/2007 from Robert C. Wright [After the insanity of the Cheney regime]
Disney: John E. Pepper Chairman/Bob Iger CEO
Subsidiaries:
-ABC: Ann Sweeney
-Walt Disney Studios: Dick Cook
Time Warner: Dick Parsons
Subsidiaries:
-AOL: Randel Falco
-Turner Broadcasting: Philip Kent
-Time: Ann Moore
-Time Warner Cable: Don Logan
News Corp: Rupert Murdoch
Subsidiaries:
-Fox Broadcasting: Pres. Ed Wilson [no ceo/chairman]
-Fox Filmed Entertainment: Jim Gianopulos/Tom Rothman [co-chairs]
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Sources:
http://www.onesource.com
http://forbes.com
Company websites
You gave to the holocaust myuseum? why, you thought it was a good show?
sane
A big FUCK YOU SANE!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:21 pm | #
as cap't sparrow said, "i believe i deserved that"
the plan is to have the middle east start WWIII
WRONG, sane the plan is to have Bush start WWIII after another false flag attack blamed on Iran, done by probably with help from Israeli Mossag again! Through ICTS security too!
sane, WRONG! Israel has even bragged about controlling U.S. Sharon has even bragged about it! sane, would you please put America FIRST FOR A CHANGE???
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:23 pm | #
SHARON IS A WASTE OF LIFE!
His two wives and son mysteriously died, he killed his own troops in cold blood and he does not represent anything but satan.
kind of like a zionist version of cheney
and although sharon said that out of his meniacal egoist delusions [similar to bush's] what makes you think it is true?
is that your reference?
it is like bush reading from al-qaeda prophecy to scare us into fear.
you really have no clue what you cause by singling out one race do you?
I actualy agree im from europe and the israell worshiping by the american peole is beyond my mind,
Lars
That's because we have been soo Goddamn brainwashed by Zionist owned media for years! And remember what Zionist David Rockefeller said about media keeping secret the NWO agenda too!
Lars-read Pike.
zionist/nazis/al-qaeda...all are helping the plan for NWO.
create two warring sides...
fascists/freedom fighters
sunni/shia
jews/arabs
US should not be spending one penny building WOMD in Israel, just like they should not be selling $20 billion in weapons to Saudi Arabia
the plan is to have the middle east start WWIII
why do you think many of the israeli pilots refuse missions, have you ever heard of a pilot refusing a mission and still being in the defense forces?
sane, WRONG! Israel has even bragged about controlling U.S. Sharon has even bragged about it! sane, would you please put America FIRST FOR A CHANGE???
You gave to the holocaust myuseum? why, you thought it was a good show?
sane
A big FUCK YOU SANE! You are obviously a Ziionist shill here and refuse to admit Israel was involved in 9-11 too! WHY did Israel let Richard Reid board that plane? Why unless they were involved! THESE ARE FACTS SANE! FACTS! 3 out of 4 terrorist attacks occurred where Israeli security firm ICTS has security at! That is NOT "Jew bashing" but good researching and TRUTH! It proves they were involved! NO Goddamn coincidence! No accident!
Jew bashing MY ASS! Any criticiism of Israel is immediately labelled "Jew bashing"?
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:11 pm | #
I actualy agree im from europe and the israell worshiping by the american peole is beyond my mind,
Lars | 07.28.07 - 2:16 pm | #
sane, How do you explain that Israel has ADMITTING letting Richard Reid board that plane? How do you explain that?
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:15 pm | #
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And now an educational moment...
>>>US has been controlling Israel since at least 1948...
Declassified "FIRECRACKER" document reveals the threats and desires of US to force Israel into not accepting the Abullah/UK peace accord between Jewish and Arab Palestinian land.
It seems that our current policy of threats and intimmidation (also murder of peaceful Israeli PM), may have originated from this new FIRECRACKER document...
Prior to the Firecracker document, there was at least 3 years of peace efforts to halt any further terrorism against palestinians and recognition of the suffering the jews had from nazi policies:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI&
pagenumber=1
Here was the 15 page top secret document from the US explaining that they had overall command and control of the Israel/Palestinian situation due to security risks to the US if communism were to infiltrate the area (vietnam anyone???)
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/
whi...ollectionid=ROI
David K. Niles' notes of Dean Rusk's comments about the recognition of Israel
Note: Niles wanted US to move forward with the UK plan to allow each people to have their own official state. Warmongering secretary of state Dean Rusk said that the US sould only allow "truteeship" to the land and not allow each people to govern their own land. Rusk was determined to defeat the peace accord by UK/Arab nations/Palestiniansd and Jews in the area
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/
whi...ollectionid=ROI
Then the tensions rise when a NY councilman with mob ties to Abner Zwillman lays on the guilt:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI&
pagenumber=1
However, Truman seems in agreement with the British Palestinian Accord on May 11th 1948
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/
whi...ollectionid=ROI
Needing to act quickly, the real military industrial complex hawks get into action with this "FIRECRACKER" document:
Alternatives of how to make peace between the Arabs and the Jews in Palestine, May 11, 1948
Page One has Lovett (outgoing secretary of defense in 1952) telling Clark Clifford (incoming Secretary of Defense 1952 - Harriman set him up) not to show it to anyone:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI&
pagenumber=1
Then page 3-6 reads like PNAC/AEI wrote it...
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI&
groupid=
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI&
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http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI&
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http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...id=ROI&
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fear...
We need to control the area....
They are working around us with peace deals
should we blockade...
they are getting weapons from elsewhere other than US...
should we intervene...
this could represent the greatest threat to our national security (sound familiar?)...
For those of you who do not know, Lovett worked with Bush Sr. in terror campaigns in the middle east and south america. Lovett is one of the pioneers in Middle East and South America false flag initiatives (as well as Gladio and others). This document gives a little more info to understand why after 50 years, teo types of people who have lived in peace for at least 1,000 years have been continually fighting. The Jews and Arabs lived together for at least 1,000 years without the problems we have seen for the past 50 years.
If you look at our support of Sunni/Shia tension to create more arms sales (Iran/Contra-now Al-Qaeda/Iran/Hamas funding), we may have an awakening. We may wake up to realize that black ops authority within our foreign policy directives have not only started the Jewish/Arab conflicts, they have made them exponentially worse.
For more of the declassified documents, go here:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whi...OI&
pagenumber=1
Notice how we seem to get off subject so easily around here -- If we want to divert/redirect we simply start with the harsh words, curse words and hostility. Use your speaking voice please and stop hollering. That last sentence is what I find myself saying to my little grandkids -- often. But they're little children // We're adults here (mostly) are we not? Act like it, please.
sane, YOU bastard YOU! STOP miss quoting me! I NEVER SAID we had to "kill those Jews' NEVER! Stop putting words into my fucking mouth asshole zionist shill! I never said that asshole! Never! And answer my question! What does it say that Israel has admitted letting Richard Reid on board that plane??
sane, Yes Bush sucks but that does NOT change the truth about Israel helped do 9-11 or Israeli security firm of ICTS beingi involved in 3 out of 4 terrorist attacks either! You are helped cover up Israel's involvement in 9-11 ! Why don't you try to put America first for a change, sane??
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:14 pm | #
Have you seen my homepage link?
Why do you think that I link to a page that graphically shows what the palestinian children suffer with every day?
Please show me one of my over 100,000 posts that demonstrates where I do not put America first.
You gave to the holocaust myuseum? why, you thought it was a good show?
Jew bashing MY ASS! Any criticiism of Israel is immediately labelled "Jew bashing"?
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:11 pm | #
I actualy agree im from europe and the israell worshiping by the american peole is beyond my mind,
sane, How do you explain that Israel has ADMITTING letting Richard Reid board that plane? How do you explain that?
sane, I KNEW Sane you would f*cking come back with this BULLSHIT! I AM NOT
"Jew bashing" but FUCKING STATING FACTS! And it is NOT Jews I am bashing but Mossad who Goddamn helped do 9-11! What does it say when 3 out of 4 terrorist attacks had SAME FUCKING ISRAELI SECURITY FIRM! AND FUCK YOU SANE! Your a zioinist shill! I knew you would cover up facts that Israel is involved in 9-11! You SUCK! You call anyone with truth about Israeli's involvement in 9-11 a "Jew basher" when you refuse to admit the truth! WHY did Israel let Richard Reid board that plane then? WHY? Your a Goddamn Zionist shill on here who doesn't want truth to come out about Israel being involved in 9-11! FACT, THE SAME GODDAMN ISRAELI SECURITY FIRM WAS INVOLVED IN 3 OUT OF 4 TERRORIST ATTACKS! THAT IS NOT FUCKING "JEW BASHING" BUT FUCKING TRUTH AND YOU GODDAMN KNOW IT!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:08 pm | #
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i love it when spastic posters make my point for me...
IT IS NOT JEWS BUT THE JEWS WHO DID 9-11 AND THE ZIONISTS AND ISRAEL...ISN'T IT OBVIOUS THAT I AM NOT JEW BASHING WHEN I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE JEWS THAT DID 3 OUT OF THE 4 ATTACKS> IT IS THOSE JEWS THAT WE MUST KILL AND TO BE SURE CHERTOFF HAS THE LIST OF ALL JEWS SO THAT WE CAN TORTURE THEM TILL THEY TELL US WHICH JEWS ARE TO BLAME.
sane, Yes Bush sucks but that does NOT change the truth about Israel helped do 9-11 or Israeli security firm of ICTS beingi involved in 3 out of 4 terrorist attacks either! You are helped cover up Israel's involvement in 9-11 ! Why don't you try to put America first for a change, sane??
Maybe you shuld change your name to 9-11 spammer
No offence bro but we got your point
Lars
WRONG! I am not a spammer the ONLY spammer here is sane! He posts and posts and posts and posts! ISRAEL WAS INVOLVED IN 9-11 OR AT LEAST THEIR LEADER'S AND MOSSAD TOO! And for your Goddamn information sane, I was one of first people to give to Holocaust museum in D.C. too! Jew bashing MY ASS! Any criticiism of Israel is immediately labelled "Jew bashing" is BULLSHIT! SANE, WHY DON'T YOU PUT AMERICA FIRST FOR A FUCKING CHANGE!?
Sorry SANE, I see you said basically the same thing to 911-TRUTHER. Hate to overkill anything, I sent my remarks w/o seeing your follow up post.
BATTLE AGAINST THE EMPIRE:
http://www.ufovideo.net/EMPIRE2.htm
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PLease this is urgent! Please help me figure out WHERE ICTS has security at ASAP! PLEASE?
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:02 pm | #
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9-11 frauder
bush has been selling out the country as c linton did for the past 25 years
he sold the ports to dubai [via CIA-front company AIG]
he sold all the oil reserves to england/germany/dubai/bahamas/some us firms
he sold security to israel/china/japan/germany/turkey
he sold manufacturing to china [actually kept it high from the nixon initial sale]
he sold the protected forrestry to the UN
HE IS SELLING OUT THIS COUNTRY TO ANYONE THAT WILL BUY IT
sane, I KNEW Sane you would f*cking come back with this BULLSHIT! I AM NOT
"Jew bashing" but FUCKING STATING FACTS! And it is NOT Jews I am bashing but Mossad who Goddamn helped do 9-11! What does it say when 3 out of 4 terrorist attacks had SAME FUCKING ISRAELI SECURITY FIRM! AND FUCK YOU SANE! Your a zioinist shill! I knew you would cover up facts that Israel is involved in 9-11! You SUCK! You call anyone with truth about Israeli's involvement in 9-11 a "Jew basher" when you refuse to admit the truth! WHY did Israel let Richard Reid board that plane then? WHY? Your a Goddamn Zionist shill on here who doesn't want truth to come out about Israel being involved in 9-11! FACT, THE SAME GODDAMN ISRAELI SECURITY FIRM WAS INVOLVED IN 3 OUT OF 4 TERRORIST ATTACKS! THAT IS NOT FUCKING "JEW BASHING" BUT FUCKING TRUTH AND YOU GODDAMN KNOW IT!
Yes, I've seen it -- excellent documentary on Controlled Demolitions. This is the same company(CDI) that I mention in which the president of same said in a 'nanosecond' he knew the WTC tower was coming down and in which order.
In the film did you take notice of how THEY strap RDX to steel members, DIAGIONAL so as to allow the cut beam to slip away. Look at this follow up photograph of one of the steel beams at the WTC (right above where the fireman stands) // exact same type cut:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ imag...06thermite1.jpg
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 1:59 pm | #
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yup, shaped charges...never knew what it meant until i saw the film
PLease this is urgent! Please help me figure out WHERE ICTS has security at ASAP! PLEASE?
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 2:02 pm | #
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Maybe you shuld change your name to 9-11 spammer
No offence bro but we got your point
(quote)
when there is NO,NO way he could have
911-TRUTHER
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No, afraid you may be missing the point -- that is a simple task for a Predator to capture data and send it streaming in video anywhere on the planet, basically. Maybe even to the Secretary of Defense's desk. Maybe even to the President's Desk // just as easily to that receiver in his black bullet proof limo enroute to the Sarasota school house. Old news sure but this explains IT IS POSSIBLE and not just Sci-Fi.
PLease this is urgent! Please help me figure out WHERE ICTS has security at ASAP! PLEASE?
sane, I too have said here many times that Bush has said TWICE that he saw 1st plane hit towers when there is NO way he could have! He has said it twice but there is also damning evidence against Israel being involved too! Especially ICTS security firm wth ties to Mossad!
Fortress GB is an Israeli-run company doing business in Great Britain. It is on the same floor, in the same building, as ICTS UK, which is another Israeli transportation security firm. ICTS UK Ltd.and Fortress GB Ltd. are both located on the 1st floor of Tavistock House South, which is exactly where the bus blew up on July 7. An Israeli man answered the phone at Fortress GB and was noticeably reluctant to answer any questions about who ran the company although he did admit that a lot of Israelis worked there. The secretary at ICTS UK Ltd., however, quickly told me that the companies are related.
These Israeli security firms need to be investigated in light of the London bombings, because they provide "security technology" for the tube lines that were bombed. They have perfected their "security" skills in Israel and Iraq and then apply them in Britain and the U.S.A. This is a pattern. The same thing happened at Heathrow when the PanAm flight went down, the same thing occurred at Boston and Newark airports on 9/11.
Isn't it time for nations to use their own brains and people to protect their citizens and stop outsourcing their most fundamental obligations to dodgy Israeli "security" firms?
Who guards the guards?
(Chris Bollyn is a writer/photographer for American Free Press [http://www.americanfreepress.net] in Washington DC, and 'one of the most tenacious of false-flag terror researchers' (T.G.) - and was recently assaulted by the FBI.)
THIS SAME Israeli security firm handled security for airports where SUPPOSED "ARAB" highjacker's boarded planes! Now WHY IN HELL would an Israeli airport security firm ALLOW questionable "Arabs" to board planes in first place? They were NOT "Arabs" but Israeli Mossad agents dressed as "Arabs" and Daniel Lewin was head highjacker too! FACTS!
This SAME damn Israeli security firm handled 3 out of 4 sites where bogus "terrorist attacks' occurred! NO accident, NO coincidence! Israel or at least Zionists and Mossad WERE INVOLVED IN 9-11 and now traitors in our OWN gov't gave our nuclear security to f*cking Israel who was involved in 9-11 too! As well as our Pentagon computer security too! TREASONOUS BASTARDS ARE OUT TO DESTROY AMERICA WITH ISRAELI HELP FOR SURE! PROOF POSITIVE! Israel even ADMITS letting Richard Reid board that plane! FACT!
9-11 truther | 07.28.07 - 1:39 pm | #
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I dearly hope that you can show a little more patience in reading and learning before they come take you and all of us on the fema camp trains...
jbird connected the quote that we all know about with a documentary about how unmanned aircraft cameras can send images to the president no matter where he is.
that is a significant find and connects the dots and tears away more deception for people that still believe the official story.
you using jbird's research to start jew-bashing on this board is quite offensive. Judging by the way you read and interpret it is no surprise that you obviously have been hoodwinked yet again. Just like when 99% of us were tricked on 9/12/2001 to blame a race/religion/nation for the worlds problems rather than the actual criminals.
please either contribute something based on facts with references or change your name to 9-11 frauder.
Please stop dragging the truth movement down by relating it to anti-semitism. Newsflash: Israel is controlled by US Neo-Cons, when they disobey they are slaughtered just like Rabin, Sadat, Sadam, 1953 Iran, Noriega [he just got punished actually], etc.
I am begging you all to help me do research into where ICTS has security at in U.S. and what type too, i.e airports, cargo what? I know they provide security for 48 airports! PLease do some research asap! PLEASE! URGENT!
did you watch the wrecking ball?
http://video.google.com/ videopla...406504731486597
SANE
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Yes, I've seen it -- excellent documentary on Controlled Demolitions. This is the same company(CDI) that I mention in which the president of same said in a 'nanosecond' he knew the WTC tower was coming down and in which order.
In the film did you take notice of how THEY strap RDX to steel members, DIAGIONAL so as to allow the cut beam to slip away. Look at this follow up photograph of one of the steel beams at the WTC (right above where the fireman stands) // exact same type cut:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
imag...06thermite1.jpg
jbrid1138 , No offense given here but this is old news! Bush has said this TWICE! He has said twice he saw 1st plane hit towers when there is NO,NO way he could have! Did you read my post about ICTS and security and Reid? Please, if you want to do some much needed urgent research, help me figure out where ICTS has security at in U.S. and fast! Please help!
jbrid1138, Please repost your You Tube links as they just went to You Tube website! Did you read my post about Israel firm ICTS? They have been involved in 3 out of 4 bogus "terrorist attacks' NO damn accident, no, no coincidence! They ARE involved in most if NOT ALL terrorist attacks! Fact! And the bastards have security at 48 of our airports! Now treasonous bastards in our own gov't gave Israel our Goddamn nuclear security too and also Pentagon computer security also! http://www.rense.com/general77/isco.htm, http:// www.whatreallyhappened.co...edbyisrael.html
This is out and out treason! For sure! No other nation should be in charge of our security NO other nation! Fact! And especially NOT Israel who has murdered American's before! These are FACTS! And we MUST demand immediately that ALL U.S. security be turned back over to U.S. immediately and also all port, and airport security too and NOW! And if need be, have U.S. Marshalls and/or Guard immediately take over airport security where ICTS has security at! WAKE UP! ISRAEL WAS INVOLVED IN 9-11! And NO all Jews are NOT evil, just Zionists!
To 911-TRUTHER // Your wish is my command. I have no idea how to go about creating a YouTube Video // You that do, feel free to do just that very thing, it's certainly okay with me. And thanks for doing it.
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Scan over to 7:00 minutes and listen to what is said about information (a tv image) being sent anywhere // to the secretary of defense or presidents desk -- anywhere --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h?
v=2grd9RVS1Ek
Now, once you've done that --
Watch this clip of BUSH saying he saw the first strike at the WTC on TV -- (mistake?) (or not):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h?
v=Sm73wOuPL60
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 12:23 pm |
And what did the 9/11 Commission make of this? Nothing unusual.
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 1:46 pm | #
did you watch the wrecking ball?
http://video.google.com/
videopla...406504731486597
controlled demolition philosorhy:
we must demolish and remove to make way for something new.
look at their faces.
if you ever see them walk out of a highrise, never go in that highrise again.
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jbrid1138 | 07.27.07 - 11:34 am | #
Shit | 07.27.07 - 3:03 pm | #
Don't Tread On Me | 07.27.07 - 10:40 pm | #
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 12:19 pm | #
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you guys all totally rock!!
mm-kay(immitates southpark voice)
But this guy needs help in finding out who his REAL enemies are~
BLAME "GOD" IF YOU WANT, IT'S HIS DESIGN
No, blame yourself for accepting these mistaken
beliefs, and USE YOUR BRAIN, rather than allow
it to be controlled by other dimwits who believe
such BS... You have to think bigger than yourself
and your own race. Eugenics & racism = Bull shit!
White superiority is bullshit. Most of the biggest
problems on the planet were created by white
people, including 9/11, all the fake terror and fake
news to scare the world into a state of fear of
fake terrorists, unfair currency exchange rates
that enslave most poor countries and keep them
poor through unfair currency manipulation, wars
in the middle East, military invasions of oil rich
countries, over 70,000,000 killed in World Wars,
genocide, orchestration of civil wars and military
coups in Africa, stealing water away from the
Nile to create drought and famine in Ethiopia,
Sudan and sub-Saharan Africa, so that Israel can
get most of the water... mass murder of natives
and Aborigines in Australia, mass starvation of the
North American Indians through Buffalo hunting
causing over 4,750,000 natives to starve to death
because white wanted to steal their land for gold
mining.
White rulers SUCK ! White rule cannot be trusted.
Angry American | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 10:02 pm | #
And here's yet another sad reality /
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...?v=f...related&
search=
jbrid1138
PLease post the exact link to spefic video on You Tube OK? As it just goes to website and that is all and not to the one, OK? Link only went to You Tube website and not to individual video!
These Israeli security firms need to be investigated in light of the London bombings, because they provide "security technology" for the tube lines that were bombed. They have perfected their "security" skills in Israel and Iraq and then apply them in Britain and the U.S.A. This is a pattern. The same thing happened at Heathrow when the PanAm flight went down, the same thing occurred at Boston and Newark airports on 9/11.
Isn't it time for nations to use their own brains and people to protect their citizens and stop outsourcing their most fundamental obligations to dodgy Israeli "security" firms?
Who guards the guards?
My thoughts on why the one bus was re-routed on 7-07, I believe that the bomb did not go off when and as it was supposed to. It was reloacated closer to the arming signal, so that the malfunctioning bomb might yet do it's job with a stronger detonating signal............
Thanks for the compliment, but if you liked that RESEARCH -- Check this out:
http://www.booknoise.net/johnsea...ower/
index.html
The Tower Builder
Why did the World Trade Center buildings fall down when they did?
From The New Yorker
November 19, 2001
**********Page down 13 pages into the 19 page article and find this:
This was Mark Loizeaux, the president of Controlled Demolition Incorporated, a Maryland-based family business that specializes in reducing tall buildings to manageable pieces of rubble. "Within a nanosecond," he told me. "I said, 'It's coming down. And the second tower will fall first, because it was hit lower down.' "
NOT SO AMAZING (YOU SAY?) // REMEMBER NO STEEL-FRAMED HIGH RISE BUILDING HAD EVER IN OUR ENTIRE HISTORY COLLAPSED DUE TO A FIRE // OUT OF ANYONE, THIS GUY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT -- In a 'nanosecond' (??) he knew it was gonna fall and in which order. Truly an amazing feat, don't you think so.
STAYING ON PAGE 13, FIND THIS INTERESTING TID-BIT OF INFORMATION:
"I thought, Somebody's got to tell the Fire Department to get out of there," Loizeaux told me. "I picked up the phone, dialled 411, got the number, and tried it--busy. So I called the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management"--which was in 7 World Trade. "All circuits were busy. I couldn't get through."
*****Now that you've just read that part, go check out the former Mayor, Mr. Guiliani, and his recorded remarks about someone (??) telling them to get out of the towers -- because -- they were coming down:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/...k/
giuliani.html
***extract***
In an ABC News interview, Giuliani states that he was "told that the World Trade Center was gonna' collapse," and that it did collapse, referring to the 9:59 destruction of the South Towers, and implies that that the warning was not well in advance of the event.
"I .. I went down to the scene and we set up a headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there WHEN WE WERE TOLD that the World Trade Center was gonna' to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit, got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us."
-- GIULIANI
And what did the 9/11 Commission make of this? Nothing unusual.
the "White House," wudajoke~~hahahahaha!
The White House is gearing up for President Bush's major announcement on Iraq tomorrow with a special conference call for bloggers. We hear spokesman Tony Snow will chat with bloggers about Bush's speech.
This would mark the second time the White House has conducted a call for bloggers. The first, which took place in June, dealt with avian flu. The second is likely to garner much more coverage given Iraq's news value and the importance of Bush's announcement.
This is old news about Bush saying he saw 1st plane hit! I am not trying to steal anyone's thunder here but that news was out along time ago! The REAL good information is about me finding out about Israel ADMITTING they let Richard Reid board that plane!
jbrid1138, Please repost that link on You Tube OK? I typed it in and it said error!
sane, I too have said here many times that Bush has said TWICE that he saw 1st plane hit towers when there is NO way he could have! He has said it twice but there is also damning evidence against Israel being involved too! Especially ICTS security firm wth ties to Mossad!
Fortress GB is an Israeli-run company doing business in Great Britain. It is on the same floor, in the same building, as ICTS UK, which is another Israeli transportation security firm. ICTS UK Ltd.and Fortress GB Ltd. are both located on the 1st floor of Tavistock House South, which is exactly where the bus blew up on July 7. An Israeli man answered the phone at Fortress GB and was noticeably reluctant to answer any questions about who ran the company although he did admit that a lot of Israelis worked there. The secretary at ICTS UK Ltd., however, quickly told me that the companies are related.
These Israeli security firms need to be investigated in light of the London bombings, because they provide "security technology" for the tube lines that were bombed. They have perfected their "security" skills in Israel and Iraq and then apply them in Britain and the U.S.A. This is a pattern. The same thing happened at Heathrow when the PanAm flight went down, the same thing occurred at Boston and Newark airports on 9/11.
Isn't it time for nations to use their own brains and people to protect their citizens and stop outsourcing their most fundamental obligations to dodgy Israeli "security" firms?
Who guards the guards?
(Chris Bollyn is a writer/photographer for American Free Press [http://www.americanfreepress.net] in Washington DC, and 'one of the most tenacious of false-flag terror researchers' (T.G.) - and was recently assaulted by the FBI.)
THIS SAME Israeli security firm handled security for airports where SUPPOSED "ARAB" highjacker's boarded planes! Now WHY IN HELL would an Israeli airport security firm ALLOW questionable "Arabs" to board planes in first place? They were NOT "Arabs" but Israeli Mossad agents dressed as "Arabs" and Daniel Lewin was head highjacker too! FACTS!
This SAME damn Israeli security firm handled 3 out of 4 sites where bogus "terrorist attacks' occurred! NO accident, NO coincidence! Israel or at least Zionists and Mossad WERE INVOLVED IN 9-11 and now traitors in our OWN gov't gave our nuclear security to f*cking Israel who was involved in 9-11 too! As well as our Pentagon computer security too! TREASONOUS BASTARDS ARE OUT TO DESTROY AMERICA WITH ISRAELI HELP FOR SURE! PROOF POSITIVE! Israel even ADMITS letting Richard Reid board that plane! FACT!
jbrid1138, i apoligise for my comment to you on the Pat Tillman post, it was late and i clearly misunderstod your comment, i corected my mistake on the post but in case you didnt se it, sorry bro my fault
everyone...c-span is about to run the Iraq embassy whistleblowers testifying in front of congress where the traitors issa and davis try to discredit them for revealing the kidnapping and concentration camp work environment
http://c-span.org
Scan over to 7:00 minutes and listen to what is said about information (a tv image) being sent anywhere // to the secretary of defense or presidents desk -- anywhere --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h? v=2grd9RVS1Ek
Now, once you've done that --
Watch this clip of BUSH saying he saw the first strike at the WTC on TV -- (mistake?) (or not):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h? v=Sm73wOuPL60
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 12:23 pm | #
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NOW THAT IS SOME SERIOUSLY KICK ASS RESEARCH!!!!!!!!
Post that shit everywhere and make sure it gets on a 9-11 truth video.
AWESOME WORK!!!!
To DTOM (and others) --
Here's that link refererence regarding the M16:
http://www.olive-drab.com/
od_oth..._rifle_m16.php3
***extract***
In automatic fire, the M-16A2 automatically fires a three-shot burst for each trigger-pull, considered optimum from Army research.
Metal storm???
just a waste of bullets...if you want to see more about the weapons that will be
used by elites against us, watch these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?
v=KS0pSwdQfbY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A...h?
v=Ak2j9x9Ts_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...h?v=6w-
ql8msl0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h?
v=vfcsSdIl4uA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h?
v=twLAVB8QEMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...related&
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Do you think we are really going to use these weapons to fight peasants in caves??? They are being made to be used on us! WAKE UP!!!
Remember... anyone who wishes to use voting machines wants to rig the election. End of. There is no middle ground. Ditto Postal Votes.
And here's yet another sad reality /
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...?v=f...related&
search=
jbrid1138 | 07.28.07 - 12:47 pm | #
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Makes you want to almost cry...........
I show you this next YouTube video not to anger you but to bring more attention to the truly really crazy wacked-out nut jobs out there in our world today that feel their brand of religion is the right way, the only way. Talk about being lame brained:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?
v=KGhlPJ_vQ7Q
Shape-Shifting Robot Bird Flies, Spies and Can Stay Aloft for 3 Years!!!!
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/20...0...w19-502-ak-
0000
The common swift is not only the smallest soaring bird, but can go up to three years without landing. Now a team of researchers has built a micro airplane that mimics the efficient flyer.
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 9:12 am | #
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We are being spied on constantly. What about little spy "bugs" and such that look like actual insects. pretty soon it will be nanotech if not already. Probably be spied on by literal paint that comes out of a bucket.....
What a bunch of cowards, hiding behind their technology....
To DTOM -- Exact same thing came into my thoughts when I heard (saw) that 3-round rapid fire shot group (Metal Storm) BUT then I remembered discovering yesterday that an M16 does basically the same on automatic, i.e., 3-round burst. I'm sure Pat Tillman was killed and most likely by an M16, considering its wide use still in existence.
But good points, nevertheless -- at least we're thinking alike. That could be dangerous in some cases.
3 bullets under 1 second within a very small area before the gun even recoils....
More on METAL STORM WEAPON SYSTEMS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...?v=L...related&
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Perhaps this is was what was used to kill Tillman. Maybe no triple tap, just "metal storm".
Who knows. I wasn't there. But if special ops were involved, this is the latest and greatest right?
Thanks SONY -- It is a good read.
I took the liberty of extracting one tiny part that I am happy is getting out to more and more people // the dust of WTC contains proof of thermate -- as discovered and explained elsewehre by Professor Steven E. Jones.
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***extract*** (from link provided by SONY)
So what does Torin think took down the WTC buildings? Different forms of thermite, such as thermate and one called super thermite. “If I was demolishing a building as high as the WTC, I would use thermite. It does what I want, when I want.” Torin then gets into the science of thermite, and what its actual chemical composition is. The same chemical composition found in the previously molten metal microspheres found in the WTC dust, discovered by professor Steven Jones. “The WTC 'microsphere' samples showed the presence of aluminum (Al), magnesium (Mg), manganese (Mn), potassium (K), copper (Cu), and sulphur (S).” Torins explanation continues, “The presence of sulphur in steel makes it brittle and lowers its melting point. Sulphur is NOT used in structural steel because of this. Powdered iron oxide (Fe2O4) and aluminum in equal parts make a compound called thermite. Add sulphur to thermite and you have a compound called thermate which is used in heavy demolition.”
Hi Marj. Thanks for your post. We are kindred spirits., and there are many more.
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Hi Chris:
Yep! The Bible says what is bringing down this society is vanity and loving the work of their hands. Plus thinking they can buy themselves into heaven by their works instead of by God's grace. They have essentially cut themselves off from God except for "lip service."
Romans 9 v.32: "But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law (they think they can work their way into heaven because that is what they have been taught by this false prophet). For they stumbled at that stumblingstone."
The false prophet (I heard him and he made me sick) is working overtime to make his followers "vain" and think more of themselves than they ought to. And because of their vanity and greed, they have to have those big houses and new cars and of course, high incomes. And they "oppress the hireling every chance they get" (see Malachi 3 v.5).
And now they are joining the NWO as NGO's in public private partnerships or PPPs (which is Fascism), and are without a care. They are generally selfish and cold-hearted and imagine themselves to be superior to the poor in every way. Romans 9 v.27: "Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved." (so, their time of retribution is coming).
And with the economy getting tighter, the poor are having their faces ground more and more, and their children are being taken from them because they are having to struggle to even put food on the table. And it's going to get worse. (Than k God there are people who still reach out their hand to help the poor.)
I do think we have incurred God's curse which we were warned about started in Deuteronomy 28 v.15. And yes, this is us, because the main part of the House of Israel did migrate to America (which I'll talk about and point out where this is in the Bible sometime soon).
Wow this is one of the most convincing article about 911 I have ever read!
http://nationalwriterssyndicate....id=128&
Itemid=2
A sad reality -- Americans don't know what it is they don't know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...related&
search=
Might be why our government can get away with so much nonsense while many of us are convinced that 19-Arabs attacked us on 9/11 and those airplanes and that fire brought down those buildings there in New York.
Hell of it is -- many have no idea where Arabs are even from (New Jersey??) or for that matter where New York is even located. A sad reality that needs to be changed. Duh.
And here's yet another sad reality /
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...related&
search=
By the way, Hitler and the Nazis were funded by
a cartel of British, American and European bankers
who helped the Nazis get out of bankruptcy. The
bankers wanted Hitler to first invade and destroy
Communist Russia (even George W. Bush's great
grand-father, Prescott Bush, helped fund the
Nazis)... but German Generals convinced Adolf
Hitler to attack England and France first because
they did not trust their funders. Hence, WW2.
AA
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please check into this a little better. Hitler and Mousselini were also funded by the vatican to instil fascism all over the planet including US/UK where the funders would be hero's in the new fascist utopia. and the vatican would control the only religion allowed through a new crusade/inquisition.
please tell me what has changed in their ultimate goal that hitler was simply a tool in?
'Listen, we've NEVER been stay the course, George ...
-- GW BUSH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...sulDYYAiCU&
NR=1
Really?
Excellent video you should all watch about who
really controls America, and it's not the politicians
you see debating and pretending to be leaders
on TV... go and see for yourself...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...related&
search=
Aaron Russo and Ron Paul are 100% correct.
The US and world monetary systems need to be
stripped of their power to create money or value
out of thin air, using a FIAT paper money system.
Paper is worthless, except to wipe you ass with
it or to burn in a fire, or to write down notes on.
Paper IS NOT MONEY!!!! Go an watch the film:
AMERICA: FROM FREEDOM TO FASCISM
on UTube.com or do a Google search for it...
In fact, there is NO WRITTEN LAW that orders
Americans to pay income tax. NONE! It was all
supposed to be voluntary, until the bankers and
politicians started getting greedy...
Now the Fed and other Reserve or Central Banks
around the world PRINT MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR
AND WANT EVERYBODY TO BELIEVE PAPER HAS
VALUE!!! This is a massive CON, a major FRAUD,
an ongoing DECEPTION to make you believe that
paper money and bigger numbers in your bank
accounts are worth pursuing, just so you can be
their SLAVES... When you borrow money from a
bank, the commercial bank borrows its money from
the Reserve (or Central) bank, who has the power
to print it out of THIN AIR, CREATING IT OUT OF
NOTHING, NOT EVEN BACKED BY ANY GOLD OR
REAL ASSETS... so that you have to work hard to
pay back that paper money PLUS interest accrued
which comes from MORE debt being created and
hence more paper money being printed. It's ALL
"Monopoly" money, counterfeit, fake bills that are
printed and created out of NOTHING real, or no
REAL HARD ASSETS!!!! just the paper and ink,
costing the Fed and Reserve Banks just a few
cents.
The problem today, is that there is SO much
paper money in circulation, money is losing value
now at an accelerated rate, so pretty soon,
hyperinflation and massive poverty will become
unavoidable, as average hard working people will
find costs of living unbearable and will need to
slave away in 2 or 3 jobs, just to SURVIVE to see
the next day.
By the way, Hitler and the Nazis were funded by
a cartel of British, American and European bankers
who helped the Nazis get out of bankruptcy. The
bankers wanted Hitler to first invade and destroy
Communist Russia (even George W. Bush's great
grand-father, Prescott Bush, helped fund the
Nazis)... but German Generals convinced Adolf
Hitler to attack England and France first because
they did not trust their funders. Hence, WW2.
Almost everything you have learned from history
lessons by the media, are lies and propaganda.
The real RULERS of this world, are the financiers
and those signing the cheques to fund wars, the
food supplies, the weapons and logistics, etc.
Follow the money trail. Nothing can get done
without the money (printed by the reserve bank)
Scan over to 7:00 minutes and listen to what is said about information (a tv image) being sent anywhere // to the secretary of defense or presidents desk -- anywhere --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h?
v=2grd9RVS1Ek
Now, once you've done that --
Watch this clip of BUSH saying he saw the first strike at the WTC on TV -- (mistake?) (or not):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h?
v=Sm73wOuPL60
Ever feel you're being watched?
PREDATOR --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h?
v=2grd9RVS1Ek
hey news media news flash we the people know you are told what to and what not to air wake up smell the fear
More on METAL STORM WEAPON SYSTEMS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...related&
search=
Fox Attacks...Bloggers
the reporters we have to ask questions we should ask there families if mommy and daddy cuss that would settle that about how bad the american language is parrents are stupid these days the kids have there own language brb oh snap the y mentioned it once we should ask how much money they are paid we the people do the same thing only better for free hello abc nbc and all you other bc to bad they are over paid under worked zombies
they are keeping the info for 15 years....
sexual orientation
race
nationality
and over a dozen other pieces of info that have nothing to do with terrorism!!!!
they are only going to use this info if a 30 year old kid with 2 hrs of training in an oversee outsourcing farm thinks that a human life might be compromised based on no logic, guide or rulebook
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Makje no mistake thisa info is for eugenics death camp martial law, there is no other purpose!
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i would be a Lunatic to if i could heal peopl walk on watter talk to god come back from the dead i would be insane i would heal every one on earth see sane things we do
That's why I think that American people are the last hope. The elites know that it's gonna be hard to beat you guys so they are gonna be very brutal, the next 9/11 will be bigger, don't be fooled when it's happening. They are smart but WE, united, are unbeatable
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Fred: I agree completely with you. Our possession of guns is what is keeping the world free. And it is what is keeping us from foreign invasion....for now.
I personally don't like guns too much, but I am glad most everybody has a gun or two. It keeps us all safer because they don't know where the guns are. It will be interesting to see how they try to get them from us. Probably legislation and house-to-house searches.
>>>>>>>>>>>CNN JUST NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
"planning a flight between Europe and the US...well the government wants to know your religious beliefs among other things."
[cut to commercial]
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Chertoff is a fucking Hitler with this flight data BS!
W A K E U P ! ! !
Our Right To Bear Arms // Sure it's important in keeping the wolves away // But be aware that this is what we are up against, folks --
METAL STORM WEAPON SYSTEMS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...related&
search=
finally the plans to take over the world are crumbling rember all those cartoons in the 80,s all the villans wanting to take over the world its scarry to think now people then let there kjds watch it and the cartoons now if they reflect the future oh shit dont think about that cat dog, steem cells rember the mr spock had the little cell phone you never woulda known they would have been used to set off a SHHHHHHHHH B#@B
Jesus is a Lunatic – David Koresh, Jim Jones, Marshal Applby, all had a history of disturbing behavior. We don’t find that about Jesus.
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I do not think that jesus was a government operation
to move toward energy independence.
i guess that is what we done right we just took over iraq
what i would not give to stand at the golden gates of heaven when all the evil greedy wicked short life of about 80 years people have to stand there and tell god why he should let them in priceless
REAL big of them not to press charges against innocent american citizens. Wake up people.
Test the Character of Jesus.
Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? John 8:46 (NIV)
Three Options
Jesus is a Liar – Like the rest of us. We fib a bit, exaggerate a little, stretch the truth.
And if Jesus was just a liar….he was good. He talked these disciples into leaving their jobs, their families, and for three years following him. And if he was lying, you have to know that at some point he would break. Even Jack Bauer breaks at sometime. While he was being beaten, or whipped, or ripping the flesh from him…you think he would have said, “I was lying”. Maybe he was strong through at all that, but when they laid him on the cross…that would have been it. “I made this whole thing up…now stop it”.
Jesus is a Lunatic – David Koresh, Jim Jones, Marshal Applby, all had a history of disturbing behavior. We don’t find that about Jesus.
Jesus is the Lord – Forget about all the feminine looking pictures you see of Jesus.
I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. [12] His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. [13] He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. [14] The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. [15] Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. [16] On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: king of kings and lord of lords. Rev. 19:11-16 (NIV)
Think about Jesus. His public ministry lasted only 3 years and yet his very birth splits time in two. BC and AD. BC stands for “Before Christ”. Scripture says there is one name that is above every name, and that is the name of Jesus. And one every person that has ever lived will bow there knee and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of all.
If you were the evil adversary which name would you fight against and attack. Today the name of Jesus is a curse word. The name of Jesus or Christ is battled against in public schools, municipalities, and even Christmas.
What About You?
"But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
[16] Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matthew 16:15-16 (NIV)
"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. [33] But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven. Matthew 10:32-33 (NIV)
Examine What Jesus Did.
Jesus was well know for his teaching and for the miracles he did. Starting at the wedding in Cana , where he turned water into wine.
When the Sabbath came, he began to teach in the synagogue, and many who heard him were amazed.
"Where did this man get these things?" they asked. "What's this wisdom that has been given him, that he even does miracles! Mark 6:2 (NIV)
What kind of miracles did he do? He opened blind eyes, he healed a withered hand. Healed deaf ears, he cause the mute to speak. He cast out demons, he multiplied five loafs and two fish to feed 5,000, people, he walked on water, he calmed the storm, and he raised the dead. Next week we are going to start a series called the “Miracles of Jesus”.
And nobody, even the Pharisees who hated him, debated the validity of his miracles. They just wanted him to stop. Jesus actually got into trouble for healing on the Sabbath.
Examine What God Did.
You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead. We are witnesses of this. [16] By faith in the name of Jesus, this man whom you see and know was made strong. It is Jesus' name and the faith that comes through him that has given this complete healing to him, as you can all see. Acts 3:15-16 (NIV)
There is not a debate as whether or not Jesus existed. He is recorded in Jewish history, Roman history, and Greek history.
Here comes the debate. Some people say that Roman soldiers stole the body of Jesus, so he was not really raised. But the Romans would have love to produce a dead body.
Then there are those that say the disciples stole the body. Which would be incredible for fisherman to overpower trained Roman guards. But then you have the testimony of the guards themselves.
But the other problem with that theory is to what happened to the other disciples. Judas took his own life, John lived into old age and was banished to the Island of Patmos , and the other 10 became martyrs. They were tortured for their beliefs. So with no personal benefit to themselves, the disciples pulled off this hoax, which caused them to be persecuted, beaten, imprisoned, whipped; with severe personal cost. All in order to cheat the world into being a better place.
Urban legend – There are many ways to God. It makes us feel good, it doesn’t put any pressure on people, it’s very ecumenical. It brings everybody together, doesn’t leave anyone out, and is non-judgmental. But Jesus said there is only one way to God
Most people believe that Jesus existed. Non-believers, Muslims, Jewish historians all agree that Jesus lived on earth. His teaching doesn’t really bother people. Love your enemies, pray for those who take advantage of you…how could you be against that.
The problem with Jesus is that He distinguished himself from other prophets, other religions, by claiming to be the only way to God and in fact, claiming to be God in the flesh.
So we have to take an up close look at Jesus said he was and what he did, and what others who knew his said that he was.
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 (NIV)
Most of the time people look better from a far. Before you really get to know them, you think, “Wow, they are something”. But then you get know to know them and they are not all that impressive.
Every now and then I get impressed after really get to know someone.
I and the Father are one."
[31] Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, [32] but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"
[33] "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." John 10:30-33 (NIV)
Put Him to the Test
Test the Credibility of Jesus.
Examine What People Say About Jesus.
Pilate
"What is truth?" Pilate asked. With this he went out again to the Jews and said, "I find no basis for a charge against him. John 18:38 (NIV)
The next time you think you are something…go ask someone if they can find any faults in you. Better than that…ask your spouse.
The Centurion
When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, "Surely he was the Son of God!" Matthew 27:54 (NIV)
“The Urban Legend of Impending Doom”
As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives , the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"
Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. [5] For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. [6] You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. [7] Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Matthew 24:3-7 (NIV)
Ginning up a fight between Clinton and Obama
http://www.salon.com/opinion/con.../clinton_obama/
There's little difference between their stances on foreign policy -- just telling differences in style
The ruling elites want to get rid of Americans because they are their biggest problem to world domination. Americans are the only country in the world where the citizens are so much self-armed. NEVER let them confiscate your guns... never.
In Europe it is completely prohibited to have private guns. In Belgium they have even recently forbidden sport guns.
Europeans are completely dumb in weaponry. I've never touch a gun in my life (I'm 31), so it's basically game over over here, if they decide to impose a martial law in Europe we have absolutely no way of resisting.
That's why I think that American people are the last hope. The elites know that it's gonna be hard to beat you guys so they are gonna be very brutal, the next 9/11 will be bigger, don't be fooled when it's happening. They are smart but WE, united, are unbeatable.
Keep up the fight, there's hope, they are scared.
Fred,
Bloggers Calling for Republican Debate on YouTube
http://mashable.com/2007/07/27/r...youtube-debate/
There was a pretty big deal made about the Democrat ’s recent CNN/YouTube debate held in South Carolina. It’s been likened to presidential candidate debates first being brought to television. See our highlights here.
In the event of a so called emergency, this would give Bush an excuse to march troops on US soil, claiming that the nukes / whatever came from inside the US, and that the policy did not fail. Stalin would love Bush.
Act Now: Comcast Can Sue You, You Can't Sue Comcast
http://www.wtop.com/?sid=1201890&nid=25
Customers who do not opt out within 30 days of receiving the Comcast Arbitration Notice will relinquish their right to pursue any legal remedies against Comcast in court, including claims for negligence, fraud or intentional wrongdoing. This means you lose the right to sue Comcast, ***while Comcast retains the right to sue you***
Ron Paul Trumps in South Carolina - an Analysis
http://iocca.us/
How Ron Paul stole a march on his competition in SC and put them on the defensive in their own backyard. Also, the future ramifications of Ron Paul's actions.
Sane! DU is harmless, I put it in my spaghetti sauce. Muy sabroso!
The Fatal Conceit in the Middle East
http://www.antiwar.com/paul/
inde...articleid=10373
Representative Ron Paul for President
Congress Abandoned Its DutyonWar
http://www.antiwar.com/paul/inde...?
articleid=1928
Ron Paul = Honesty in Government
>>>>>>>Iraqis Blame Surge in Cancer on US Depleted Uranium
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...pleted-uranium/
Iraq ’s environment minister blamed Monday the use of depleted uranium weapons by U.S. forces during the 2003 Operation Shock and Awe for the current surge in cancer cases across the country.
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Go to my homepage to learn more about the effects of DU
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/
i...eature_875.html
Dust makes this cosmic eye look red. This eerie Spitzer Space Telescope image shows infrared radiation from the well-studied Helix Nebula (NGC 7293), which is a mere 700 light-years away in the constellation Aquarius. The two light-year diameter shroud of dust and gas around a central white dwarf has long been considered an excellent example of a planetary nebula, representing the final stages in the evolution of a sun-like star.
Spitzer data show the nebula's central star is itself immersed in a surprisingly bright infrared glow. Models suggest the glow is produced by a dust debris disk. Even though the nebular material was ejected from the star many thousands of years ago, the close-in dust could be generated by collisions in a reservoir of objects analogous to our own solar system's Kuiper Belt or cometary Oort cloud. Formed in the distant planetary system, the comet-like bodies have otherwise survived even the dramatic late stages of the star's evolution.
Hundreds of Oil-Covered Penguins Surface in South America
http://www.livescience.com/
anima...d_penguins.html
Hundreds of oil-covered Magellanic penguins have surfaced off the Atlantic coast of South America in the past few weeks, according to an animal welfare organization
Shape-Shifting Robot Bird Flies, Spies and Can Stay Aloft for 3 Years!!!!
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/20...w19-502-ak-
0000
The common swift is not only the smallest soaring bird, but can go up to three years without landing. Now a team of researchers has built a micro airplane that mimics the efficient flyer.
US Army eyes truck-mounted laser
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/t...ech/
6917041.stm
The US Army is developing a truck-mounted laser weapon to destroy rockets, artillery shells and mortars.
"Rent an American" in Germany
http://www.spiegel.de/
internatio...,496731,00.html
US students are having a hard time in Germany, as they find themselves having to justify Washington policy from day to day. A new pilot project in German schools is meant to help Americans deal with the endless drill.
Bob Barr, now a Libertarian, supports Ron Paul
http://www.centredaily.com/news/...ory/
157983.html
Remember Bob Barr, a Clinton critic from the U. S. Congress in the 1990s? He switched to the Libertarian Party and not supports Ron Paul.
Teased, Abused Teen Shoots Principal for Not Stopping Teasing
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/
sto...EMPLATE=DEFAULT
a lonely country boy who was teased relentlessly, labeled a "fag" by his fellow students and beaten and abused at home....father often made the boy wait on him, made him do all the household chores and sometimes beating him. His stepbrother had sexually abused him until he was 6 years old,
DailyKos: Did Bush order Pat Tillman whacked?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/
new...RTICLE_ID=56895
The highly trafficked "progressive" website DailyKos, which boasts contributors including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, is suggesting football star Pat Tillman was murdered in Afghanistan on orders from the White House.
U.S., India reach deal on nuclear technology
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/
as...=rss_topstories
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States and India announced Friday a landmark deal on nuclear cooperation for civil purposes that they said will benefit both countries and strengthen international non-proliferation efforts. But the deal is drawing criticism as being too conciliatory to India and opening the way to the spread of nuclear weapons.
Why The Federal Reserve Violates the U.S. Constitution
http://gocampaign2008.blogspot.c...al-
reserve.html
This Telly Award-winning documentary on the Federal Reserve System was inspired by the well-known book, "The Creature From Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin, and features presidential candidate, RON PAUL. Find out why some feel the Federal Reserve System is a "bunch of organized crooks".
Ron Paul on the National Debt, Taxes, and the Corrupt Federal Reserve
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/html/...ue-
Debt_fx.html
This is a page from Ron Paul's official site giving his stance on the above issues. I consider myself to be marginally liberal and Ron Paul is the most fiscally conservative candidate out there. But I can't help agreeing with everything that man says.
Ron Paul On Federal Reserve, Banking And Economy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j..._G0MqAqq8&
eurl=
Excepts of Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) from the documentary "Fiat Empire." Dr. Paul discusses the origins, operations and results of the Federal Reserve System and fiat currency on the U.S. and global economy.
Google Video Screwing Ron Paul?
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cf...6034&
indicate=1
Over the course of the last few days, I've noticed something screwy going on with Google Video in terms of doing a Ron Paul search. Google video shows that there are more than 10 pages of Ron Paul videos, way more. However, when I click to page 2 and scroll to the bottom, Google video suddenly makes that the end of the search results.
The Patriot Act: How Unconstitutional Is It?
http://principledpolitics.blogsp...onal-is-
it.html
Presidential Candidate, Ron Paul, discusses the Patriot Act, it's unconstitutionality, and the problems that are occurring from it.
Who Murdered Pat Tillman?
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/pe...ogs/peek/58118/
Newly released documents confirm that it was a deliberate shooting that killed Pat Tillman, not friendly fire.
BAE Systems Test Crisis Command Systems During ’Terrorist Attack’
http://www.webwire.com/ViewPress...l.asp?
aId=43505
BAE Systems successfully tested a mobile ground station for use by emergency services at a simulated crisis exercise in Valencia, Spain. The ground station is a key element of MARIUS — the Mobile Autonomous Reactive Information System for Urgency Situations — a technology project funded by the European Commission.
Since no one has said these exact words in quite a few postings // please allow me --
'9/11 Was An Inside Job'.
-- That's probably the extent of today's postings from me // But it says it all.
Sorry, had to fix that spelling error.
Brought home my 50 cal cleaning rod........
Do you have a 50 you're not using??
Michael D.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/
Henry_Bowman
A desperate call from a european friend.
God bless you all.
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Fred, thank you for encouraging word.
You are wise my freind.
I too see that the awakening of america is putting fear in them. I think maybe 10-20 % of the adult population is actually thinking/planning for the armed conflict on the horizon. We have numbers.
These inbred morons don't realize they are writing their own bloodline exterminating papers.
Heck, the russians lost in Afghanistan against a backward population during the height of Russian power. How much greater will be their their defeat at the hands of smart, skilled, weapons savy, woodsmen of north America (this is including our Canadian brothers).
Thank you Fred for your words. You have shown a lamp of hope in this dark world of division that is key to their hold upon the worlds populations.
Michael D.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/ Henry_Bowman
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"there are 300 million citizens
careful with the setups they use in this grand chessboard
they did it in germany they could do it here
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 8:17 am | # "
That's one heavy duty site you have there, sane - it's vital to keep this in the view of 'the 300million'
That figure reminds me of something a very angry guy said the other week:-
"Gee - how come 200 million American adults are so scared of 25000 bankers and their goons?"
Will the wake up be soon enough? Not if Cheney/Bush's latest EO comes into effect!
20 days now to ratification of Dictatorship..
la.indymedia.org/news/2007/07/203363.php
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How is free speech dangerous? The ideas of people in the blogosphere are their own and not those doled out to them by talking heads on either sid of the fence.
Not all bloggers are liberals. And not everyone criticizing Bush are liberals. I am former registered Republican now and independent and I believe Bush is perverting the laws of our Nation!
Jack Tatum | 07.28.07 - 8:23 am | #
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free speech is only dangerous to elites that want to hide their plans
A desperate call from a european friend.
God bless you all.
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Fred, thank you for encouraging word.
You are wiae my freind.
I too see that the awakening of america is putting fear in them. I think maybe 10-20 % of the adult population is actually thinking/planning for the armed conflict on the horizon. We have numbers.
These inbred morons don't realize they are writing their own bloodline exterminating papers.
Heck, the russians lost in Afghanistan against a backward population during the height of Russian power. How much greater will be their their defeat at the hands of smart, skilled, weapons savy, woodsmen of north America (this is including our Canadian brothers).
Thank you Fred for your words. You have shown a lamp of hope in this dark world of division that is key to their hold upon the worlds populations.
Michael D.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen...ki/
Henry_Bowman
"Who do you think actually controls America?
DoGG | 07.28.07 - 2:23 am | # "
Go here for the complete answer - then DO something about it - NOW.
http://wearechange.org/forum/YaB...?
num=1184408392
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How is free speech dangerous? The ideas of people in the blogosphere are their own and not those doled out to them by talking heads on either sid of the fence.
Not all bloggers are liberals. And not everyone criticizing Bush are liberals. I am former registered Republican now and independent and I believe Bush is perverting the laws of our Nation!
Angry American | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 5:05 am | #
Barter in germany in the 1930s caused so much chaos it allowed for someone like hitler to "bring the country together"
we need sound money not barter
there are 300 million citizens
careful with the setups they use in this grand chessboard
they did it in germany they could do it here
ALERT LEVEL = CHERTOFF'S GUT!!
Why does Lindorff, in his article posted on Infowars today, TOTALLY ignore Cheney/Bush's latest Executive Order that completely OUTLAWS dissent over the Iraq war???
There is NOT ONE WORD of this in the MSM or Congress! Why not?
AMERICA - YOU ARE 21 DAYS FROM DICK-TATORSHIP & TYRANNY
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20070717-
3.html
D(ick) Day is 17/08/07
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I urge everyone to examine this outrageous edict - if at the end of it you still shrug your shoulders and think 'So what?' then please consult an honest attorney immediately!
If the whitehouse link doesn't work, please go here:-
http://www.911weknow.com/forums/
...=306.msg934#new
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THEY ARE ONLY WOLVES
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Hi N. A man of Indian heritage told me a stroy about wolves.
Dou you know who realy runs the pack he asked, The gbig wolf ,I answered, No he said the littlest .
Why.?
Because the big wolves know he can run under their legs and bite them in the balls.
If Americans woke up, left their safe bubbles and faced reality, we would hang publicalyy, the regime, and any who profited from their abominations, I mean any, be it the MIC, contrators, lakeys of our gov.and on. Freeze their assests and money, and hang them for the world to see. Redemption of a nation and its people. return to the constitution,rebuild our industries, return morality to alnd that has become a menace to humaity. An abomination.
Sorry to ramble Marj, i Guess its my age or maby becasue i am so p offed , it is rage.
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Thanx! I agree. We must resist and help others to wake up! Even if it is too late.............
Hi Marj. Thanks for your post. We are kindred spirits., and there are many more.
Some people see the truth and their fear or their greed, their brainwashing, holds on to the lie. Human nature is one factor the average Joe does not confront, but it is the formidable weapon the Elite, Neocons, criminals, patrassites use. They feed of the nature of mankind. They are nurtured, tutored, trained by their mentors in our strengths and in our weaknesses.
Fear is their
strongest weapon. As Goering said, just give the people any enemy, keep them in fear and they will do whatever you tell them, they will go to war when the best they can hope fo ris to return home in one peice.(911,WMD's,Iraq,Iran,Taliban)
FEAR.
Pavlogs dogs and cattle, strange combination, but allow me to attmept to make a comparrison.
Control was Pavlogs experiment, conditioning, his trained animals, and it worked. CONTROL.
Cattle, feed them well, give them water, let them get fat and lazy, lethargic.
Americans are the cattle, money was printed day after day, paper to allow the people to feel on top of the world, comftorable and secure in their goverenmnet.( Easy money for the criminals.)
Pavlog, control is necessary for the Elite, Americans have been controlled for decades, just wave flag , pay you taxes, send your kids to fight for them and all is well in aba daba land. Love it or leave it, coutry right or wrong, types. Becasue they have been controled and basically well fed and pampered to.
I could go on all day about my feelings and facts, but Marj, it will be a stock market crash, depression, Martial law, more war, that bring the people out of their safe bubbles of the illusion they have been rasied in, tutored in, and accepted.( Control)
I was in Vietanm in 69-70, I dont live in a bubble, was rasied to be a super patriot , but my soul revolted, the truth was obvious. Fortunes were made, JFK was murdered to continue their profiteering, and RFK.
Sad is it not, that people choose to remain in a illusion rather than face truth.
The Elites do not consider the people human beings, to them we are either cannon fodder, serfs, peons, commoners, or for that matter little worms in our breeding grounds for them to control and prosper.
The MIC, Elitiests, master criminals, in fact their entire group have prepared for these coming days for decades, we can not kid ourselfs.There will be catastrophe after catastrophe, I beleive 2008 is much to late. They will not back away from their master plan. Sure their will be a revolution , pockets of armed resistance but not the historic type. They will weed out dissenters and, annihilate revolutionarys. They have the capacity and more.
Many Americans will keep on hoping our Gov, gives us miracles, that it cares about us, this will be short lived. As Bush declared you are with me or against me. The statement is dictatoral.
God, according to all I have read he left us the holy spirit, of strength and fire. In other words we are all Gods children, I call God the THE BOSS to my close freinds and family. I any event I beleive he gave us courage, and free will, intelligence and morality. I will not sacrifice my soul for the sake of the propaganda and rhetoric the Masters spout, I will not fear them, in fact i detest them to the very foundation of my being.
If Americans woke up, left their safe bubbles and faced reality, we would hang publicalyy, the regime, and any who profited from their abominations, I mean any, be it the MIC, contrators, lakeys of our gov.and on. Freeze their assests and money, and hang them for the world to see. Redemption of a nation and its people. return to the constitution,rebuild our industries, return morality to alnd that has become a menace to humaity. An abomination.
Sorry to ramble Marj, i Guess its my age or maby becasue i am so p offed , it is rage.
WOLVES PREY ON SHEEP
THEY ARE NEITHER GOOD NOR BAD
THEY ARE ONLY WOLVES
"British satirist Sacha Baron Cohen, who had made the acclaimed spoof film "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan".
LOL!
To the tune of Stars & Stripes, altogether now...
Kazakh stan is the
most
beeuti ful count ry
in the world...
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“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Just precisely what IS America still waiting for? Santa Claus?
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America: COUNTDOWN to DICTATORSHIP - only 20 days left!
Bush Outlaws All War Protest In United States
http://tinyurl.com/2h8sjg
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This is a good view regarding you rights when dealing with police in normal siutations.
I know GAK will most likely say it is better to shoot first and cop killa too...but I think there is some practical/useful stuff here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...related&
search=
cause by outsourcing.
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Good ideas, I just like the idea of having a simple way to trade that does not require direct trade of bulky items. The use of currency backed with actual items of value. There is a reasonable middle ground.....
BATTLE AGAINST DARTH VADER & HIS EMPIRE:
http://www.ufovideo.net/EMPIRE2.htm
We need more Alex Jones "Jedi's" to Defeat them!
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Basically, since 1913, the US Government was
never in control of printing and supplying money.
All that power was given, illegally, to the private
bankers who controlled the Federal Reserve
(private) Bank... and ILLEGAL institution that has
been printing money now for almost a century.
If you get back the power to print money, and
give it to elected and accountable government
leaders, you will clean up most of the corruption
and eliminate the high costs of living in the USA.
If all countries followed suit, the bankers would
no longer have complete power and control over
most "assets" and the people's wealth.
Go back to a National Banking system, where the
government leaders are in charge of controlling
and creating money supply... not greedy bankers
and special interest groups who worship paper
money profits! (by creating more and more
worthless paper and staring at computer screens
all day like retarded human vegetables, not doing
anything useful for society)...
What is gained by staring at numbers and graphs
on screens all day long? Oooh, the price is going
up, now it is going down... oh no, I must sell now,
before the price drops again... buy low, sell high,
etc. etc.... What is the "value adding" being done
by this kind of dumb activity? It's GAMBLING!!!!
IT'S ALL UNPRODUCTIVE, USELESS ACTIVITY
that does not benefit society in a physical or
positive way.
Did you know where the word "MONEY" originally
came from?
There was a pagan god, Mone' (pronounced
Monay) who represented the God of Wealth and
Prosperity... I forgot what culture worshipped
him and several other Gods, but do your research
and find out for yourself...
The top levels of elites are occultists and pagan
god worshippers... They love Satanism and
worshipping ancient gods, eg. the fish head hat
that most bishops wear represents Dagon the
fish god, and the Owl god is Molech, an ancient
pagan god worshipped through child burning
sacrifices, as mentioned in the Bible. The elites
practice these sick things even today, or use
effigies/dummies, at ceremonies held at elite
gatherings, eg. at the Bohemian Grove. See the
videos at
http://www.infowars.com
Ok, now we are getting somewhere:
Stop using money?
>>Good idea but impractical.
How do you think people survived and traded
goods and services long before money was
invented? Before the printing presses? Before
currency notes or gold or metal coins were used?
Honest fair trade! Where both parties agree to a
swap of goods or services, to the mutual
advantage of both parties.
>>Howabout not tossing the baby out with the bathwater, how about we take control of the system and go back to sustainable living?
That could work too, but it assumes 100%
honesty and integrity, so that the currency values
of each country are set based on MAN HOURS OF
WORK, not on some racist system where all the
predominantly white countries get all the highest
buying power advantages, and don't have to work
as hard as the asian or dark-skinned countries...
a system that is FAIR and provides equal rewards
for the same amount of effort expended, is a fair
system... none of this $1 US = 100 Rupees = 2
days work for a brown skinned Sri Lankan or
Indian man!!! How unfair is that? Why do we
have to toleratte slavery in international trade?
Whatever happened to "ALL MEN ARE EQUAL"
or does that only apply to white people?
>>You know just one step back...say to the gold standard? Maybe get rid of the fereral reserve and make the system more transparent. What do you say to that? i am all for barter and direct trade;
Yes, that can be done too, but white bankers
and white economic leaders in the past have
always had the tendency of giving white countries
massive advantages in buying power per manhour
of work... treating other non-white countries like
virtual slaves... even during the old Bretton
Woods system that FDR (Franklin Delano
Roosevelt) set up, from the end of World War 2,
up to about 1972, when it was destroyed by the
likes of Henry Kissinger and George P. Shultz,
who wanted the elite bankers to control the entire
world's money supply and currency values, so that
poor 3rd world countries could be exploited like
slaves.
>>however, the use of money is not evil in-and-of- itself it is the love of money and the schemes that surround stealing money that are evil.
The problem is integrity, fairness and equity.
White leaders in the past have demonstrated their
inclination towards white world rule and support
for trade policies that deliver big advantages to
only the white countries, while increasing the real
debt and poverty of 3rd world & developing
countries (via deliberate currency manipulation
and devaluation, where debt levels are artificially
increased for no good reasons - except market
volatility and manipulations by powerful white
currency traders)... This is clearly a racist money
system controlled by white elites who want the
western countries to profit from cheap labour...
Here are some shocking facts... the amount of
US Dollars used in the trade of "derivatives", such
as insurance contracts, options, futures, warrants
and other forms of security (eg. to fix the price of
something, to give you the option to buy at a
later date, costs money... but is completely and
utterly worthless since it is NOT a physical product
or a commodity, but just an agreement)... the
amount of TRADE in derivatives each year is over
US $32,000,000,000, 000, 000 (32 quadrillion).
The amount of TRADE in physical merchandise,
products, resources, actual value-adding work
and physical goods...
US $52,000,000,000,000 (52 trillion)
or about 0.16% of ALL the US dollars used for
trading paper assets.
The REAL physical economy is much smaller than
what is reported on the news (which includes all
the "economic growth" from paper assets, such
as derivatives and worthless paper contracts that
are just massively over-priced)...
That's why I said, the financial world is clinically
INSANE... Unreasonable... madly obsessed with
the worship of printed paper money, that is not
backed up by any real physical assets.
Did you know that there is not yet enough money
today to PAY all of those debts created from
borrowing money to buy all those paper assets
that are traded each year? Although there is
over 26 times more US Dollars in circulation today,
than in 1972, has the real wealth of the USA
or productivity really increased 26 times since then
just because more money as printed?
Of course not... Everybody there is living in a
big fantasy land, thinking they are rich just
because of large numbers in their bank accounts,
but infrastructure, education, manufacturing jobs
and almost EVERYTHING valuable has been lost
or shipped overseas, to a cheap labour country.
WAKE UP!!! You are living in a fantasy land of
fake wealth and you are a SLAVE of the system if
you continue to go along with all their deceptions.
The economy is in ruins, the US has debts that
cannot be repaid (over 9 trillion?+ ) and business
is getting worse due to less productivity and jobs
cause by outsourcing.
STOP USING ELITE MONEY, or perish...
Angry American | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 4:29 am | #
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Good idea but impractical. Howabout not tossing the baby out with the bathwater, how about we take control of the system and go back to sustainable living? You know just one step back...say to the gold standard? Maybe get rid of the fereral reserve and make the system more transparent. What do you say to that? i am all for barter and direct trade; however, the use of money is not evil in-and-of- itself it is the love of money and the schemes that surround stealing money that are evil.
My 2-cents.
This is just a smattering of how we got here:
Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century
A Report of the Project for the New American Century
September 2000
http://
www.newamericancentury.or...ionsreports.htm
9/11 comission Testimony I had never seen before tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...h?
v=J1bm2GPoFfg
CENSORED! Forgotten History of the 911 Octopus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...OQXTZyi_P4&
NR=1
STOP USING THE ELITE'S MONEY... THE PAPER
MONEY PRINTED BY THE PRIVATELY CONTROLLED
BANK, THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK... THE EURO
AND THE BRITISH POUND...
STOP USING MONEY... go back to trading physical
goods and services and real useful products, food
and merchandise...
STOP BELIEVING IN THE VALUE OF MONEY, or you
will always be a slave of the "system" set up by
the elites (big bankers, war profiteers, super-rich
club of pen-pushers, etc. who worship money,
which has no real intrinsic value anyway)...
Get back to basics. Learn a useful skill, trade or
profession that "adds value" or helps sell new and
useful products, (eg. manufacturing, construction,
engineering, farming, transport, marketing, etc)...
If you don't have a decent skills that is needed by
other people, or you cannot provide a commodity
or merchandise that others are willing to trade
with, then you should not get rich (just from
trading lots of fake money, or over-priced paper
assets, like insurance contracts, options, and
other forms of worthless paper that are being
traded into the tens of trillions of dollars each
year by Wall St and other brokerages)... this is
complete insanity... we now have a world that is
owned and controlled by the most unskilled and
useless gamblers and paper-traders imaginable...
greedy, unproductive people who have the power
to print money to back up all their worthless debts
and fake "money" that is not backed up by any
real-world assets...
These worthless parasites and vultures then take
all their borrowed (debt) money, leverage it and
use it to borrow up to 10 times more money in
order to buy control of useful value-adding
companies, cook the books, invent reasons to
send all the skilled jobs to asia and sack a very
productive and skilled manufacturing workforce,
and then run away with billions or several millions
in profits... a huge reward for stealing and putting
lots of honest hard working people out of work...
The LOVE OF MONEY and LOVE OF POWER is
the reason for the gradual and ongoing collapse
of the real physical economies of the USA, UK,
most of Europe, Australia, and most western
countries... skills manufacturing and IT jobs are
being outsourced - disappearing real fast, so that
the rich can get richer, and the poor become
poorer and even jobless. That is the FUTURE that
awaits you, if you keep trusting in today's money
system.
STOP USING ELITE MONEY, or perish...
A desperate call from a european friend.
God bless you all.
Fred | 07.28.07 - 4:01 am | #
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Thank you!
I am an American; however, I lived in Germany and Austria. I have many people who are my dear life-long fiends in Europe, I never doubted any of you. I know that people the world over will unite if they stop and think who the true enemy is and always has been!
I have less hope and faith than you have expresssed. i hope that you are proven to be correct! I hope Americans will stand against the evil!
Peace
Hi everybody,
I live in Belgium and I wanted to give you my european point of view of what is happening in the world and how Europeans see the situation.
You hear that Europeans hate Americans because of their foreign policy and their arrogance, etc... it is completely wrong, we hate your government like more than 75% of you guys ! We have nothing against the people of America. Of course we are brain-washed night and day by the media so unfortunetaly some people have lost their criticism sense but those who have not still respect you a lot. I personaly think that you are really brave men/women. And in the fight against the total enslavement of the people by the illuminatis you are our best chance. You guys are really tough, that's why the illuminatis are so evil with you, they know that you are the last point of resistance in their agenda. In Europe I think that we are already doomed.
In Belgium we have already chipped ID cards for years, our bank system has almost completely eradicate paper money, 80% of what I buy is done by electronic paiement. I think that after WWII europeans were so broken down that they basically give up the resistance. Since WWII they just improved their control on us.
You guys are our last hope of freedom, when I look at the momentum for truth and justice that is currently rising in US, I really thing that we haven't lost the war yet. But beware, they know that you are waking up, and they are going to crush you hard in the coming months or years.
Be sure that your european brothers are with you. Every thing you hear/see on television saying that european people hate the american people is wrong, it's devide and conquer, they want you to think that, so that we turn against each other. Don't be fooled guys, trust me, it's wrong. We have a common enemy and it's the illuminatis.
The time to rise up is coming fast, their last attempt to eradicate the American problem out of their equation is coming soon. As Aaron Russo (search youtube for it and watch what this brilliant man has to say) says ... it's endgames. They are cornered, if they don't fight back now, THEY are dommed. They are outnumbered so their whole stategy is to make sure that the people stay asleep.
Here in western Europe, I can tell you that 85-90% of the people think that 9/11 was an inside job. We knew Iraq was a fraud and we know Iran is not a threat. People here are so desperate to see americans waking up and realize what the hell is upon us. If you think that fighting against the system will deprave you of your properties, you're wrong, it's an illusion, we do not own anything anymore, your house, car, commodities, it's all credit and debt.
If you rise up, europeans we'll follow and support you. No matter of what you can hear about us, trust me, we are with you. But the fight will be tough don't expect an easy victory. Wake up America !
A desperate call from a european friend.
God bless you all.
people do that to the truth...when they don't want to hear it...
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The masses prefer bread and circus to the truth everytime! There is no truth in any of Cezar's ways this system is of the antichrist. I am not a rigth-wing beliver. Actually until this last year I wa quite leftist....I just was making the point that the Christ was not a pawn but a leader....I know that his plan was carried out as he planned it to occur! He was too powerful to be made to bow he bowed of his own accord. Over all I agree with your sentiments! Politics is an ugly place to live...and we all live there today!
Peace
jesus new he was to die...
he gave himself up for that reason...i believe that...
but i also believe that the same political bullshit that was going on in that day is still going on...
catholic church too...
bush went to the pope prior to the last election and stressed his hate for abortion...
the pope later said that the people should vote with their conscience and against abortion...
bush got his votes...
there has always been a play between religion and politics...they always find a common ground...
not necessarily what is good for all...
but for them at least...
jesus died for me...i know that..
but there was a powerplay there none the less....
that is why he didn't say a word
the pharisees knew nothing of the truth...only politics...
pilate did what he had to do to appease them and rome...it's all politics...
jesus knew that...
and it hasn't changed...
and whatever they do against what is right and good they will always say that they did for the common good...
what a lie...
jesus said not a word...
he knew better...
he knew he was being led to the slaughter for the sake of politics...
he chose yes....but he also meant for for you to see the politics behind it...
because you're dealing with that same thing now...
Bush has declared christians terrorists...did you know that?
Ironic isn't it...
that someone that got to power because of the religious right and who used his stance on abortion to gain their votes is the one that now labels them terrorists...ironic..
he died because he loves me...
but he was lied about none the less...railroaded none the less...beaten for no reason...just beaten...
people do that to the truth...when they don't want to hear it...
Bomby LA
http://www.westlaonline.com/ bomb on Pico (july 2007)
http://www.nanotech-now.com/news...?
story_id=24079 UCLA Nanotech explosion (july 2007)
http://chronicle.com/news/articl...-scientists-
car (june 2007)
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/...7/
050207nj1.htm (further plot I came across…)
names/dates/links/any other info
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let me grab that stuff; I will be right back
the romans killed him but the jewish leaders at that time gave him up...they had more to do with it than any roman...
but it was a political move...
they needed to keep control of the people...
yeah...sounds very familiar....
artychic | 07.28.07 - 2:33 am | #
I beg your pardon for butting in, Jesus was killed by no man; He allowed himself to be sacrificed...He could have run, He could have formed an army, He could have stricken them all; but He chose to be an example of faith and righteousness through resting powers of this world!
maybe he got circumcised and converted to judaism
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He may try to trackk you down over that one......but you may be right! ;-P
Ron in LA | 07.28.07 - 2:47 am | #
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yeah he may try to trackkk me down
Yes, I think you are on to something artychic. Look at my post regarding WLA and look at the stories regarding the UCLA nanotech building explosion and the UCLA prof who was target (failed) of another bomb! everyone is being pretty quiet around here.....this is all in one week!
Ron in LA | 07.28.07 - 2:45 am | #
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names/dates/links/any other info
maybe he got circumcised and converted to judaism
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 2:44 am | #
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He may try to trackk you down over that one......but you may be right! ;-P
it struck me odd that when new york had that pipe burst and it destroyed a building that the dust hadn't settled before they were saying it wasn't a bomb...
but they don't mind planting a lunch bag in the subway and scaring the shit out of people...
if you broke into your own house time and time again...
and then blamed it on another...
would you lock your doors at night?
probably not...
artychic | 07.28.07 - 2:37 am | #
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Yes, I think you are on to something artychic. Look at my post regarding WLA and look at the stories regarding the UCLA nanotech building explosion and the UCLA prof who was target (failed) of another bomb! everyone is being pretty quiet around here.....this is all in one week!
obvious disinfo artist like rich, sure do miss him and his moronic logic
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 2:36 am | #
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I am sure he will be back to share his stunning thoughts! He is just taking time to compose himself I am sure
Ron in LA | 07.28.07 - 2:40 am | #
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maybe he got circumcised and converted to judaism
kinda reminds me of the crucifiction of christ...
the romans killed him but the jewish leaders at that time gave him up...they had more to do with it than any roman...
but it was a political move...
they needed to keep control of the people...
yeah...sounds very familiar....
artychic | 07.28.07 - 2:33 am | #
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you probably need a history lesson that comes from a source other than mel gibson...
jesus was crucified to demonstrate his willingness to be sacrificed. jesus wished to show how powerful his teachings were concerning how evil these fuckers are and what methods they will use to enslave us.
jesus was, is, and will always be a jew, and the people that crucified him did not wish his teachings to see the light of day...
but they were somewhat mistaken and his teachings allow millions to wake up every day.
but the objective of a pyramid society goes back before judaism and the jewish people seem to be somewhat against a pyramid society. just like the majority of any other race, religion, or nation.
this fight is the samer in 1 bc as it is now, it is free will of all against elitist controlling pigs
obvious disinfo artist like rich, sure do miss him and his moronic logic
sane | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 2:36 am | #
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I am sure he will be back to share his stunning thoughts! He is just taking time to compose himself I am sure
and you would logically conclude that the building fell for reasons other then terrorism because you didn't have a hand in it..
it struck me odd that when new york had that pipe burst and it destroyed a building that the dust hadn't settled before they were saying it wasn't a bomb...
but they don't mind planting a lunch bag in the subway and scaring the shit out of people...
if you broke into your own house time and time again...
and then blamed it on another...
would you lock your doors at night?
probably not...
Who do you think actually controls America?
DoGG | 07.28.07 - 2:23 am | #
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Rich people! No race, religion, or heritage/culture holds them together. It is one simple creed that they share: never share, cede no power; and kill all that stand against you, or may do so in the future!
Ron in LA | 07.28.07 - 2:28 am | #
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obvious disinfo artist like rich, sure do miss him and his moronic logic
I respect Alex for his work but I was wondering why he never mentions the zionist factor in 9/11!!! I heard him blast Rothschild on his show. Yet, he never mentions the Zionists and 9/11 together.
Who do you think actually controls America?
DoGG | 07.28.07 - 2:23 am | #
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yeah he is such a anti-racist I hate it...
I also wonder why he doesn't talk about the pope and jesuits
why doesn't he talk about the jewish media
why doesn't he talk about the christian right satanists
why doesn't he talk about the chinese communists
why doesn't he talk about the saudi arab council
why doesn't he talk about the freemasons
why doesn't he talk about the scottish rite
why doesn't he go after the mormons
why doesn't he go after the homosexuals
why doesn't he go after the blacks
why doesn't he talk about the thule society
why doesn't he talk about the illuminati
yeah that Alex always hiding behind the "we are just trying to identify the actual criminals" BS. He never goes after a race, religion, or country! I hate that shit, we need an easy to identify evil enemy to make us feel good like in all those Disney movies we watched when we were kids.
kinda reminds me of the crucifiction of christ...
the romans killed him but the jewish leaders at that time gave him up...they had more to do with it than any roman...
but it was a political move...
they needed to keep control of the people...
yeah...sounds very familiar....
i recall reading something recently about some israeli's jumping up and down behind a van after the buildings fell...
but ultimately...who is responsible?
yeah..i agree that the u.s. and israel work hand in hand...but who made it possible?
the u.s. would have had to make it possible...
who should concern themselves more with your rights and freedoms? i mean besides you...
the u.s. not israel...
what they did was because of both their interests...but the u.s. decided ultimately..
Who do you think actually controls America?
DoGG | 07.28.07 - 2:23 am | #
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Rich people! No race, religion, or heritage/culture holds them together. It is one simple creed that they share: never share, cede no power; and kill all that stand against you, or may do so in the future!
Hey everyone:
http://www.westlaonline.com/
There have been some wierd things going on in LA....multiple bombing attempts on targets around the UCLA area....this one that I posted has been covered very little on the net and not at all otherwise. There was a "credible threat" in 2004 from a guy named "Al" in Canada that spelleout blowing-up the Westside Pavillion, which is very near the incident that I posted in the URL above. If you get any futher information please post it.
some of you might be wondering why so many u.s. companies have been buying up controlling shares in canadian companies...
you know why?
cause the u.s.a. patriot act according to your son of a bitch president applies to any company in the world where the u.s. holds a majority interest...
that puts my own husband subject to the u.s. patriot act...
bull shit...bull shit...bull shit...
I respect Alex for his work but I was wondering why he never mentions the zionist factor in 9/11!!! I heard him blast Rothschild on his show. Yet, he never mentions the Zionists and 9/11 together.
Who do you think actually controls America?
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Think Progress » Slave labor used to contruct U.S. Embassy In Baghdad.Slave labor used to contruct U.S. Embassy In Baghdad. ... it out clearly: I believe these men were kidnapped by First Kuwaiti to work at the US Embassy… ...
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From the looks of things, the Bush/Cheney regime has been working assiduously to pave the way for a declaration of military rule, such that at this point it really lacks only the pretext to trigger a suspension of Constitutional government. They have done this with the active support of Democrats in Congress, though most of the heavy lifting was done by the last, Republican-led Congress.
The first step, or course, was the first Authorization for Use of Military Force, passed in September 2001, which the president has subsequently used to claim—improperly, but so what? —that the whole world, including the US, is a battlefield in a so-called “War” on Terror, and that he has extra-Constitutional unitary executive powers to ignore laws passed by Congress. As constitutional scholar and former Reagan-era associate deputy attorney general Bruce Fein observes, that one claim, that the US is itself a battlefield, is enough to allow this or some future president to declare martial law, “since you can always declare martial law on a battlefield. All he’d need would be a pretext, like another terrorist attack inside the U.S.”
WTF kids???????????
Another fucking pig traitor and mass murderer, why the fuck is Issa not in jail??????
Darrell Issa - CongresspediaDarrell Issa currently serves the 49th Congressional district of California ... Schlussel once questioned whether Issa was an "useful idiot or traitor" [6]. ...
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CorpWatch : Blood, Sweat & Tears: Asia’s Poor Build U.S. Bases in Iraq
First Kuwaiti’s general manager claims that this allegation, too, ... He says the food First Kuwaiti served was so poor, that he and other KBR employees ...
http://www.corpwatch.org/article...le.php?
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CorpWatch : Baghdad Embassy Bonanza
With the embassy making a prestigious notch on the company's belt, First Kuwaiti will step onto the world stage, al-Absi beamed. ...
http://www.corpwatch.org/article...le.php?
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Here ya go Davis, these are the people you are defending as you purposefully discredit the patriots of this country:
http://politicalfriendster.com/s...tracting-(FKTC)
TOM DAVIS R-Virginia is a fucking traitor to all humans on the planet.
He is a fucking total piece of shit who along with Issa is instrumental in degrading and accusing whistleblowers from telling us the truth.
He tried to rip apart the testimony of a brave patriot that wished to testify concerning the concentration camp called the US embassy in Iraq. He has a conflict of interest in his job as he makes more money the more people die in iraq.
he kills via his chair as the ranking member on oversight in the house.
he is a war criminal and mass murderer.
Davis = Hitler
fuck you you pig!
wake up you guys...everything you believe in is a lie...
paper money is just that..paper money...
debit comes from playing with paper money...
losing any sense of self sufficiency....
here in canada now our government is waging war on the farmers....
they want their land...
they want our water...to sell..
they want to put meters on our wells...
wells we dug...
they want us to think that the world is on the edge...
it is...but only because of them...
it's time to fight back....
Neoconservatism Is Dead
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
br...ad_b_58154.html
Charles Krauthammer, not content with having been proven deadly wrong in his world view of many years, learning nothing from the bloody disasters of the policies he so aggressively promoted, now attacks Barack Obama for suggesting America should talk with enemies as well as friends. Our first and last neoconservative President, George W. Bush, is the lead witness for the prosecution in the case whose verdict is the death of neoconservatism. Never has any philosophy been proven so wrong, so fatal, so disastrous for our country and so deadly for our troops as the views expounded by neoconservative theoreticians. Their ascent to power meant tragedy, failure and death. Their arrogance and their imperial grandeur has alienated what Jefferson called the decent opinion of mankind. Their tactics have been pursued with contempt for alternate views, corruption of our democratic system, and condescension towards those who know far more about military affairs than they do. In fact, one of the great specialties of the neoconservative movement is that so many who so ostentatiously failed to serve in the military, when their time came, so sneeringly question the patriotism of others, including those awarded medals for valor in combat.
When Ronald Reagan was changing the world with Mikhail Gorbachev, there were the neoconservatives, uttering their sneering contempt for Reagan, comparing his talks with Gorbachev to Pearl Harbor, comparing his diplomacy to Neville Chamberlain. George Bush, Dick Cheney, and their fellow neoconservatives know better than Reagan about negotiating with enemies. They know better than Eisenhower about military industrial complexes. They know better than Ford about seeking diplomatic agreements to control the spread of weapons of mass destruction. They know better than Nixon about achieving breakthroughs with our major adversaries. They are very good about hurling insults to attack their domestic enemies and very bad about supporting wounded troops, disabled veterans and homeless heroes. Neoconservatives are very special people, in their own eyes. When things go wrong they become the party of perjury and pardons, the party of abuse of power and abuse of executive privilege to cover up their failures and crimes. Neoconservatives champion the politics of fear, desperately seeking to frighten the people to justify their attacks on freedoms guaranteed by statute and constitution. Neoconservatives embody the politics of profiteering, masterminding and organizing the most corrupt occupation in world history, staffed by ideological partisans, rewarding their campaign contributors, mismanaging tens of billions of lost and stolen dollars, under the imperial arrogance of a proconsul awarded the Presidential Medal Of Freedom. Neoconservatives know better than generals, with their contempt for the Geneva Convention and their actions that civilized people call torture. Our neoconservative theoreticians believe that George Washington was wrong and George Bush is right. Even torture is done with the big lie that they are promoting freedom and democracy with their corrupt occupation, their war against the Geneva Convention, and their shadow CIA created in the bowels of Rumsfeld's neoconservative Department of Defense.
WASHINGTON — Since when is Hillary Clinton the pin-up gal of conservative pundits?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homep...tory/
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After Clinton delivered a foreign-policy cold-cock to Barack Obama's head during a Democratic presidential debate on Tuesday:
— Fred Barnes of The Weekly Standard, a neo-conservative weekly, wrote that she delivered her answer to the now-famous "would-you-meet-with-despots" question "firmly and coolly."
— Rich Lowry of National Review, a conservative weekly, gushed like a schoolboy with a new crush: "She excels . . . Clinton has run a nearly flawless campaign and has done more than any other Democrat to show she's ready to be president."
— David Brooks, the conservative columnist at The New York Times, wrote that Clinton "seems to offer the perfect combination of experience and change" and said she's changing perceptions in a way that may persuade voters to give her a second look.
— Charles Krauthammer, the conservative columnist of The Washington Post, summed up the Clinton-Obama smackdown: "The grizzled veteran showed up the clueless rookie."
All this from members of a crowd that's spent the better part of two decades demonizing Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton.
Is the conservative chattering class just hedging its bets, wary that Clinton might win the White House and banish them all?
Or is it a set-up: The vast right-wing conspiracy pumping up the polarizing candidate they really want to face in the general election?
Naturally, no one in politics wants to talk about that with their names attached, lest they alienate people whose favor they need. But here's what some political strategists said when given anonymity:
"Absolutely," said one Democrat, citing Clinton's high unfavorable ratings (42 percent in a recent New York Times/CBS News poll, twice Obama's 21 percent). "Look at Fox News. They play her up all the time. Image-wise, they think she's the one Democrat they can beat right now."
"A plausible theory," said a Republican strategist with a top-tier GOP candidate. "Hillary Clinton is our best shot to win the White House. That's pretty much consensus by Republican insiders. It's a really crappy environment for us right now. What she does, and what Obama doesn't do yet, is single-handedly solve our base problems. Because of who she is."
Others laugh off the "set up Hillary" theory.
"The vast conspiracy is not that well organized," said John Hinderaker, co-founder of Power Line, a popular conservative blog. "We couldn't pull that off if we tried."
Conservative admiration for Clinton — on the foreign-policy debate question specifically and the way she's running her campaign generally — is real, said Hinderaker, who added that he thought she'd be a tougher opponent for Republicans than the less-experienced Obama or the smooth former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.
Could the plaudits of the right hurt Clinton with the left-ish voters who dominate the Democratic primaries? That's clearly what Obama thinks, as he mocks Clinton's position as "Bush-Cheney lite."
The question, briefly, was whether a new president should meet with anti-American leaders without pre-conditions in his or her first year in office.
Obama said sure. Hillary said not without preliminary diplomacy to avoid getting used in a propaganda trap. They've been sniping at each other about it ever since. She said he's naive. He said her position of not talking to bad guys sounds like Bush, and of course he'd do some preliminary diplomacy, too.
This 60-second sound bite's not much of a way to choose a president, to be sure, but it's the closest the two Democratic frontrunners have come so far to taking each other on frontally, so politicos are feasting on it.
The Clinton camp believes it won the weeklong spat. Her supporters aren't concerned about liberals being upset by conservatives' praise for Clinton, pointing out that many — though not all — on the left also say that Clinton's debate answer was better than Obama's.
Edwards, running to the populist left of both Clinton and Obama, said at the debate that he agreed with Clinton. And in The Nation, a liberal weekly, David Corn wrote that, "this moment illustrated perhaps the top peril for the Obama campaign: with this post-9/11 presidential contest, to a large degree, a question of who should be the next commander in chief, any misstep related to foreign policy is a big deal for a candidate who has little experience in national security matters."
If Clinton can get the National Review and The Nation to agree that she won a debate, maybe diplomacy is her strength.
the embassy in iraq is a nazi concentration camp filled with foreign slaves worked like animals
"Is it possible that the war being waged is really a war against us? Yes, we do have enemies in caves and compounds abroad, but perhaps our greatest danger comes from the corporate boardrooms and governmental offices where decisions are made that take away our tax dollars and satisfy the greed for profit and power. If that is so, we will need a resurgence of democracy, a revival of free speech, a new citizens movement, a mobilization of Americans to insist that the nation's wealth be used for human needs, not for war. Joined to similar movements abroad, it could be the beginning of global solidarity, looking to a long-delayed sharing of the fruits of the earth."
yes...the fruits of the earth...
it's called nafta...and the spp
if it weren't for the corporations and the greed there would be a plentiful earth...
that allowed farmers to farm and sell their own produce...
water to run freely without being harnessed or redirected for gain...
trees to grow tall and provide shelter not trade...
none of us needs this you know...the world was better off before they got the idea that they could not only harness the earth and what it had to offer...but us as well...
we are no more then fuel to them...
a battery...
neo... why do my eyes hurt?
morpheus....because you've never used them before...
open your eyes.....
what is money really? a piece of paper...they we were told was of value...
is it really?
it is as long as they have a hold on you in the now...
Thomas To Snow: "You're Not Speaking English, Really"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...-
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Bancroft Family Member Changes Mind, Favors Murdoch Deal
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/2...ml?
ref=business
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This deal is fucking done, wall street journal is no longer worthwhile for bird cage lining.
E-mails Show Rove Protégé Tim Griffin Led Effort To Suppress Minority Votes In 2004
http://www.truthout.org/docs_200...6/
072607A.shtml
Fox News could lose sponsors
http://rawstory.com/
showarticle....FD8QL58DO0.html
TSA issues bogus terror alerts Video: Bulletin was 'test run' using airline passengers as guinea pigs.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
TS...bogus_0727.html
Dem: Nuke accord breaks Bush law Agreement between US and India breaks law Bush signed, says Rep. Markey.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
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KATRINA REPORT: US REFUSED AID, CITIZENS PERISHED
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Congress to be asked to OK huge Saudi arms deal
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
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"George W. Bush had a problem also. Pat Tillman, leading NFL star who had turned down lucrative contracts and endorsements to sign up as a Special Forces soldier and serve in Afghanistan, was turning against the war. He was critical of it in the media, often quoting the noted anti-war activist Noam Chomsky. It was endangering the whole "War on Terror" plan to attack Iraq that was even then being designed and built at the White House and the Pentagon."
that's why they no longer have free access to outside information...
but the truth finds it's way...no matter what...
The Great Deception: Elusive Enemy, Endless War
Howard Zinn,
February 27, 2002
From: Max Obuszewski
http://TomPaine.com
It is becoming clearer every day that the nation has been seriously, tragically deceived by the Bush administration, with the collaboration of a timorous Democratic Party. The clue to this was in Bush's State of the Union Address. He began by saying we are "winning the war on terror." A few paragraphs later he said "tens of thousands of terrorists are still at large," and, "Terror training camps still exist in at least a dozen countries."
If so, how can we be "winning" the war on terrorism? And if it is clear that we are not, why have we bombed Afghanistan, an already bombed and starving country, for four months? Why have we killed a thousand or two thousand or four thousand (no one knows the exact number) innocent men, women, and children? Was not the bombing intended to destroy the Al Qaeda network?
The Boston Globe reported on February 21st: "Four months into the campaign in Afghanistan, U.S. officials acknowledged that American forces have killed or captured only one senior Al Qaeda figure and seven far less prominent leaders." In fact, there was no chance from the beginning that we could "win" a war on terrorism because terrorism is not that kind of phenomenon. It is not Japan or Germany in World War II, or Iraq in the Gulf War. It is a phenomenon that can spring from any country in the world where there are people who are angry at the United States.
The prospect is for a war without end. For, as the President says: "These enemies view the entire world as a battlefield, and we must pursue them wherever they are." He says: "The campaign may not be finished on our watch." He will pass on the war to the next president, and perhaps the next and the next.
How useful to have an enemy who is so elusive, whose defeat will require an endless war. Because so long as the nation is in a state of war, it is possible to control the population by saying: we are at war, and this is no time for division, we must sacrifice our freedoms. But it is exactly when the nation is at war, when we are dealing with life and death matters, that freedom of speech is most necessary.
We are told we have all sorts of enemies to fear: non-citizens and dissidents at home, an infinite number of mysterious enemies abroad. We will have to concentrate not only our resources, but our attention, on that endless war. We will be looking everywhere in the world for our enemies. The "war on terrorism," which cannot locate the perpetrators of the crime of September 11th, is useful for our political leaders, because while searching for an invisible enemy we will not be paying attention to what the government is doing to the citizens of this country in the name of that war.
If citizens are forced to concentrate on a "war against terrorism" they may not have time to consider that perhaps our most serious problem, despite the awful event of September 11th, is a political system in which the government can fund four hundred billions for its military machine, but cannot find the money to give free health care, decent housing, minimum family incomes -- all those requisites for children to grow up healthy.
Is it possible that the war being waged is really a war against us? Yes, we do have enemies in caves and compounds abroad, but perhaps our greatest danger comes from the corporate boardrooms and governmental offices where decisions are made that take away our tax dollars and satisfy the greed for profit and power. If that is so, we will need a resurgence of democracy, a revival of free speech, a new citizens movement, a mobilization of Americans to insist that the nation's wealth be used for human needs, not for war. Joined to similar movements abroad, it could be the beginning of global solidarity, looking to a long-delayed sharing of the fruits of the earth.
Howard Zinn is an historian and author of A People's History of the United States.
More headlines from 2/2002:
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POLICE / PRISONERS
Hack a PC, Get Life in Jail
FEMA's anti-terrorism role hearing
Ashcroft: Terror top budget factor
Arabs want Guantanamo prisoners back
Salt Lake blast caused by bomb?
Police Gunfire In D.C. Worsens
Man faces charges in alien smuggling
Congressman Wants FBI Records
Pakistan to seek death for Pearl's killers
Ga. Won't Seek Ex - Sheriff Execution
Investigators Show That U.S. Embassy Is Vulnerable
ENERGY AND OTHER
Court Tells Energy Dept to Produce Documents
U.S. reliance on Iraqi oil grows despite "evil" tag
Oil Executives Lobbied on Drilling
Lead Levels High Near Mo. Smelter
Looking Again at Mammograms
With AIDS Therapy, Timing Can Be Vital
Elderly Christians threatened with ouster
Community Leaders Call .. Not to Buy World Bank Bonds
Journalists On Radio In Russia To Resign
A 'Damaged' Information Office Is Declared Closed by Rumsfeld
ACTIVISTS
The Great Deception: Elusive Enemy, Endless War
This site has a lot of archived awesome info:
http://nucnews.net/nucnews/briefslv.htm
WTF????? Look at these headlines in 2/2002:
NucNews - February 27, 2002
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NUCLEAR
Hands of 'Doomsday Clock' Reset Toward Danger
Doomsday Clock Moved Ahead
Hidden Wrecks: Nuclear Ship Below
Tokyo, Seoul Play Down Bush Rebuke of N. Korea
Tenex agrees to uranium pricing
Harry Polachek, 88; Math, Computer Authority
Northrop: Bond Rating Is Priority
China Says Next Move in Arms Talks Is Up to U.S.
Beijing to negotiate on weapons control
Henry Kissinger's Secret Trip to China
Pentagon Sees Sample Rocket by '04
Russian court strikes down decision to allow nuclear waste imports
Report Faults Security of Russian Arsenal
More Nuclear Security Steps
Transmission problem triggers San Diego blackouts
What Isn't in a Name? 'Nuclear'
Piketon plant has leaked radiation for decades, study says
Time to end embargo against Cuba
MILITARY
Afghan Witnesses Say G.I.'s Were Duped in Raid on Allies
Protesters clash as tension mounts in Madagascar
Belgium Seeks Arms Dealer With Suspected Qaeda Ties
Cuba accuses US of dozens of "biological attacks"
Britain irritated by Rumsfeld's prisoner comment
Bogota ends plan to swap captives
Rebels Go on Killing Rampage
Colombia Claims Coca Crop Decline
Ex-Afghan warlord disappears from Tehran
U.S. meets groups opposing Saddam
U.S. Action Against Iraq in Next Six Months Unlikely
Bush Welcomes Saudi Proposal on Mideast Peace
NATO's overtures to Moscow
Musharraf cites radicals for Pakistan mosque attack
Security tightened as Pakistan mosque victims buried
Russia slams U.S. plan to send troops to Georgia
Lebanon arrests three suspected of spying for Israel
Bush to Nominate Helgerson CIA Inspector General
U.S. Seeks to Extend Ban on Cloning
Rumsfeld shuts down OSI
Rumsfeld Kills Pentagon Propaganda Unit
Pentagon abandons public sentiment idea
Rumsfeld takes dim view of U.S. peacekeeping role
U.S. May Send G.I.'s to Ex-Soviet Area in Training Mission
Marines, Special Operations Command Increase Ties
bullshit there is no God...
i know my God...
the problem now is that there is no black and white...
for most there is only gray...
almost everyone lies day in and day out..
they justify their lies big or small...
do you expect those people to recognize the truth when they see it...???
you have to determine that you will be on one side or the other...
one of truth or one of lies and self deception for the sake of gain...
you have to decide if this world is more important than the next...
on doing that you decide if you are black or white...
if you decide nothing you can count on living in a world where nothing ever makes sense..where you can't tell what's good or bad...right or wrong....the world of the gray...
Who Will Rid Me Of This Meddlesome Priest?
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Henry the II had a problem. The Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Beckett, was refusing to allow him to do as he wished in terms of Church lands, property, tithes and so forth. Beckett even refused orders from the Pope to accede to Henry's wishes. Finally, in desperation, Henry made the famous statement that is the title of this post. Four members of his court (the Middle Ages equivalent of a Cabinet) took this as a direct order and killed the Archbishop. Henry disavowed them, but it was of little use. He ended up losing all public confidence, and had to humiliate himself to the Pope, effectively emasculating the power of the throne to that of the miter.
George W. Bush had a problem also. Pat Tillman, leading NFL star who had turned down lucrative contracts and endorsements to sign up as a Special Forces soldier and serve in Afghanistan, was turning against the war. He was critical of it in the media, often quoting the noted anti-war activist Noam Chomsky. It was endangering the whole "War on Terror" plan to attack Iraq that was even then being designed and built at the White House and the Pentagon.
Cheney Is Wrong About Me, Wrong About War -
http://www.commondreams.org/arch...2007/04/24/716/
by George S. McGovern
Vice President Dick Cheney recently attacked my 1972 presidential platform and contended that today’s Democratic Party has reverted to the views I advocated in 1972. In a sense, this is a compliment, both to me and the Democratic Party. Cheney intended no such compliment. Instead, he twisted my views and those of my party beyond recognition. The city where the vice president spoke, Chicago, is sometimes dubbed “the Windy City.” Cheney converted the chilly wind of Chicago into hot air.Cheney said that today’s Democrats have adopted my platform from the 1972 presidential race and that, in doing so, they will raise taxes. But my platform offered a balanced budget. I proposed nothing new without a carefully defined way of paying for it. By contrast, Cheney and his team have run the national debt to an all-time high.
He also said that the McGovern way is to surrender in Iraq and leave the U.S. exposed to new dangers. The truth is that I oppose the Iraq war, just as I opposed the Vietnam War, because these two conflicts have weakened the U.S. and diminished our standing in the world and our national security.
In the war of my youth, World War II, I volunteered for military service at the age of 19 and flew 35 combat missions, winning the Distinguished Flying Cross as the pilot of a B-24 bomber. By contrast, in the war of his youth, the Vietnam War, Cheney got five deferments and has never seen a day of combat - a record matched by President Bush.
Cheney charged that today’s Democrats don’t appreciate the terrorist danger when they move to end U.S. involvement in the Iraq war. The fact is that Bush and Cheney misled the public when they implied that Iraq was involved in the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Iraq had nothing to do with the attacks. That was the work of Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda team. Cheney and Bush blew the effort to trap Bin Laden in Afghanistan by their sluggish and inept response after the 9/11 attacks.
They then foolishly sent U.S. forces into Iraq against the advice and experience of such knowledgeable men as former President George H.W. Bush, his secretary of State, James A. Baker III, and his national security advisor, Brent Scowcroft.
Just as the Bush administration mistakenly asserted Iraq’s involvement in the 9/11 attacks, it also falsely contended that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. When former Ambassador Joseph Wilson exploded the myth that Iraq attempted to obtain nuclear materials from Niger, Cheney’s top aide and other Bush officials leaked to the media that Wilson’s wife was a CIA agent (knowingly revealing the identity of a covert agent is illegal).
In attacking my positions in 1972 as representative of “that old party of the early 1970s,” Cheney seems oblivious to the realities of that time. Does he remember that the Democratic Party, with me in the lead, reformed the presidential nomination process to ensure that women, young people and minorities would be represented fairly? The so-called McGovern reform rules are still in effect and, indeed, have been largely copied by the Republicans.
The Democrats’ 1972 platform was also in the forefront in pushing for affordable healthcare, full employment with better wages, a stronger environmental and energy effort, support for education at every level and a foreign policy with less confrontation and belligerence and more cooperation and conciliation.
Cheney also still has his eyes closed to the folly of the Vietnam War, in which 58,000 young Americans and more than 2 million Vietnamese died. Vietnam was no threat to the United States.
On one point I do agree with Cheney: Today’s Democrats are taking positions on the Iraq war similar to the views I held toward the Vietnam War. But that is all to the good.
The war in Iraq has greatly increased the terrorist danger. There was little or no terrorism, insurgency or civil war in Iraq before Bush and Cheney took us into war there five years ago. Now Iraq has become a breeding ground of terrorism, a bloody insurgency against our troops and a civil war.
Beyond the deaths of more than 3,100 young Americans and an estimated 600,000 Iraqis, we have spent nearly $500 billion on the war, which has dragged on longer than World War II.
Re: Hearing Problems
Thank heavens SOMEONE in the media is covering Alberto Gonzales' shameless and bald-faced criminality and too bad the only one doing it is Jon Stewart on The Daily Show (good on him nonetheless). Where oh where do such hardcore Satanists come from? There is no God. How could such people be created by a loving and just God? If there is a God, He, She, or It is a psychopath and a Sadist.There is no God folks. Get over it.
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Imperialism and the War Against the Poor: War on Iran: Unleashing ...Bush/Cheney administration started its overt aggression against Iran .... of Carrier Strike Group 12 led by nuclear powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise, ...
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babble: Pro-Iran war faction winning in Washington?"The Washington source said Mr Bush and Mr Cheney did not trust any potential ... The aircraft carrier USS Enterprise left Virginia last week for the Gulf. ...
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i never thought they cared about tillman...
they only concern themselves with whatever serves their purpose...
but tillman had his mom behind him....his mom asking questions..
he wasn't a name amoung 3,000..
that's why he was such a threat...
so what makes you think they would spare anything to take care of the rest of you?
all they have to do is start something with iran and that will soon become irrelevant....
or stage another catastrophe in the u.s. and that won't matter...
martial law...call in the czech soldiers that have been training on american soil...
the mercenaries...
and all the crowd control weapons they have developed...
geeez...i'd suck as a motivator ey?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...manexecuted.htm
they fucking killed tillman..
he quit his career because he heard the call and they shot him cause they were afraid of the power he might have when he got back...so they made sure he didn't get back....
i'm canadian and i'm pissed as all hell...
they gave him a silver star though...that's gotta count for something...
mother fuckers....and shit...i never swear...almost
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They killed 3,000 in broad daylight on 9/11/2001 what makes you think they give a flying fuck about a true american patriot like tillman?
Strained relations between Maliki and Petraeus.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...i-and-petraeus/
A key aide to to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said that “relations with U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus are so poor the Iraqi leader may ask Washington the withdraw the well-regarded U.S. military leader from duty here. The Iraqi foreign minister calls the relationship ‘difficult.’”
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...manexecuted.htm
they fucking killed tillman..
he quit his career because he heard the call and they shot him cause they were afraid of the power he might have when he got back...so they made sure he didn't get back....
i'm canadian and i'm pissed as all hell...
they gave him a silver star though...that's gotta count for something...
mother fuckers....and shit...i never swear...almost
with nafta and the spp on the table and ready to be ratified on august 20th i can't seem them folding now....
they will do whatever it takes to complete their objective of a north american union...
slave labour from mexico and the illegal immigrants in the u.s. (why do you think they are allowing them to stay?)
. Under the new programs, workers from the South will be admitted with non-sector-specific visas, and will be available to all industries in the North. The demand for this cheap labour will create unprecedented human traffic on the NAFTA corridors.
look up...
'Sharing the Plunder of the South: The NAFTA corridors and Canada'
There is a much broader picture here...
there is also the matter of american soldiers on canadian soil as our pm sees fit and canadian soldiers on american soil as your scum bag son of a bitch evil president sees fit...
they have been working on this for years...they won't let it go based on soldiers lives or the american attitude...
or how some poor mom feels cause she lost her son...
my son enlisted and i'm pissed cause i know it's a lie...
but he won't listen...
i wish someone would fucking listen
Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - crack & cocaine
43 min - Feb 11, 2006 - (261 ratings)
from the history channel...hooked history channel crack coke cocaine drug drugs illegal and how they got that way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...h?
v=Lrd5xtyfjFw
Illegal drugs and how they got that way - opium, heroi
43 min - Feb 11, 2006 - (201 ratings)
History Channel - Illegal drugs and how they got that way - 2 Opium, Morphine & Heroin there's one more episode from this series about lsd, ecstasy,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h?
v=aQlk01sxO_E
http://www.themicroeffect.com/li.../
listenlive.htm
Listen live anytime.....
Bush and Clinton are cocaine dealers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h?
v=FZL1ZZ_rEWo
"The Origins of Evil"
with Michael Tsarion
http://www.taroscopes.com/webstr...s/
ccvideos.html
Watch these six video clips.
Chemtrails
http://video.google.com/
videopla...623406966197325
The Best Democracy Money Can Buy
http://video.google.com/
videopla...941102443595912
Trials Of Henry Kissinger
http://video.google.com/
videopla...881561030958784
they are cornered and they are outnumbered by 1000,000 to 1 at least.
That is why they keep them confused, give them handouts, and ultimately get them on the payroll.... Thus they more than even the odds, and practically flip the ratio.
Thus the infowar and the attempt to obstruct their recruiting efforts, while at the same time enabling ours.
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=1
Michael Tsarion.
Liston to this man.
Wake up.
Hillary Clinton - IT'S ALL A LIE
http://video.google.com/
videopla...223584619737075
The Clinton Chronicles
1 hr 43 min - Feb 27, 2007 - (43 ratings)
Discover teh story behind Bill and Hillary Clinton and the Mena Arkansas cocaine smuggling operation they ran, while Bill was govenor, prior to the presidency.
http://video.google.com/
videopla...450895164255089
but they get even worse when they are cornered...
and they are cornered now...
artychic | 07.28.07 - 12:21 am | #
__________________________
"that is fine i prefer a straight up fight rather than all this sneaking around stuff" - Hans Solo
they are cornered and they are outnumbered by 1000,000 to 1 at least.
the only way they can seriously harm us is by having us fight each other...thus the polarized rhetoric on the mediaopoly
i don't believe there will be an election in 2008 and i don't believe that they will allow the soldiers to come home...
they don't want you to have that kind of information or support...
there may also be a draft that was again introduced in january 2007, thus rendering america completely helpless...
there are mercinaries in place to take care of those left behind...
anyone that is not between the ages of 18 and 42...male and female...
unless something is done soon what we see soon will be remarkable...
the people in power have been brutal, insidious and evil...
but they get even worse when they are cornered...
and they are cornered now...
Anyone know why it is important to study history???
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...ories/
1938.html
What Adolf Hitler & Co. did to Germany in less than six years was applaudeldly and ecstatically by most Germans. He lifted the nation from post-War defeatism. Under the swastika Germany was unified. His was no ordinary dictatorship, but rather one of great energy and magnificent planning. The "socialist" part of National Socialism might be scoffed at by hard-&-fast Marxists, but the Nazi movement nevertheless had a mass basis. The 1,500 miles of magnificent highways built, schemes for cheap cars and simple workers' benefits, grandiose plans for rebuilding German cities made Germans burst with pride. Germans might eat many substitute foods or wear ersatz clothes but they did eat.
What Adolf Hitler & Co. did to the German people in that time left civilized men and women aghast. Civil rights and liberties have disappeared. Opposition to the Nazi regime has become tantamount to suicide or worse. Free speech and free assembly are anachronisms. The reputations of the once-vaunted German centres of learning have vanished. Education has been reduced to a National Socialist catechism.
You gotta love TIME's support for the Military Industrial Complex-look at the illuminati satanists of the year awards:
http://www.time.com/time/persono...rchive/stories/
1941: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Faced two potent foes after preparing reluctant U.S. for battle
1940: Winston Churchill
Britain stood firm against Hitler, who conquered five nations
1939: Joseph Stalin
Paved the way for Hitler's war by signing secret pact with old enemy
1938: Adolf Hitler
His figure strode over Europe with all the swagger of a conqueror
Profits & Barter - TIMEIn 1934 Germany held third place in exports to Brazil, U. S. first, Great Britain second. That year Nazi barter economics started in earnest in Brazil. ...
http://www.time.com/time/
magazin...,759933,00.html
Miscarriages in the Forest
http://
www.trespassagainstus.com...Chapter3War.pdf
In the 1960s and 1970s, Dow and other herbicide producers had
pitched their new weed killers hard to farmers and ranchers,* state highway
departments, railroads, utility companies, and the timber industry. The U.S.
Forest Service, in fact, became an important Dow customer, buying the com-
pany’s herbicides in bulk quantities. Forest Service lands were sprayed with
Dow herbicides containing 2,4,5-T, 2,4-D, silvex, and other ingredients in
Oregon, North Carolina, Arizona, and a number of other states. Between
1972 and 1978, for example, over 7,000 acres of Oregon coastal forests were
sprayed with 2,4,5-T. But like Vietnam, anecdotal and medical reports start-
ed coming in during the 1970s
about birth defects and miscar-
riages, some of the earliest
from the Pacific Northwest.
One such case was that of Patty
Clary, who had moved with her
husband to Days Creek, Oregon
in 1974. She lived in an area
sprayed frequently by timber-company helicopters using the herbicides as
part of their forest management practice. Mists from the sprays would occa-
sionally waft down on the land where they lived, or drain into streams. Once,
Clary was sprayed by a passing helicopter. Still, she didn’t think much about
it at the time. Her husband, in fact, worked as part of a “hack and squirt”
forestry crew, using some of the same herbicides, residues from which were
sometimes still on his clothes. Then Patty Clary had two miscarriages and
also some serious hemorrhaging over a three-month period that sent her to
the hospital. “Here I was, 29 years old, perfectly regular my whole life, and
suddenly I had a ‘hormonal imbalance.’ Five doctors could not tell me what
happened.”
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NON-LETHAL WEAPONS: WAR WITHOUT DEATH?
Produced SEPTEMBER 27, 1995
http://www.cdi.org/adm/850/
trans...transcript.html
DAVID BOYD: We're looking at a technology we already have a prototype of that's capable of launching an antipersonnel net that can be used to net a demented soul armed with a weapon other than a firearm to bring them under control long enough for law enforcement to prevent them from doing something they shouldn't.
THOMAS KARR: Many of these devices that have been proposed as non-lethal weapons could occasionally cause harm, cause injury, even cause death.
GEN EDWARD MEYER (USA, Ret.): When I made my first presentation on non-lethal warfare out at Lawrence Livermore Lab to their advisory panel made up of ex-Defense Department, State Department and generals, they all said, "What do you mean 'tickle them to death,' we want to kill them."
NARRATOR: Weapons that are supposed to incapacitate but don't kill: Slickums, stickums, super acids, goop guns, blinding lasers, non-nuclear electromagnetic pulses, high power microwaves, laser weapons, infrasound, computer viruses, and metal-eating microbes.
Somebody, somewhere is thinking about how to use them as weapons of war: To stun combatants or immobilize them. To wage war without spilling blood and guts. To create a world where wars are kinder, gentler, and more antiseptic.
From STAR TREK episode, "The Man Trap" (Paramount):
Dr. SPOCK: "Obviously, taking them alive is going to be difficult."
CAPTAIN KIRK: "Set your phaser for one-quarter, I'll leave mine on stun."
NARRATOR: That's the world of the future, in the view of many advocates and enthusiasts, and the future is closer than you think. But is it a world we want? Today, "AMERICA'S DEFENSE MONITOR," examines the world of non-lethal technologies.
["AMERICA'S DEFENSE MONITOR" program introduction.]
ADM JOHN SHANAHAN (USN, Ret.): I'm Vice Admiral Jack Shanahan, director of the Center for Defense Information.
Fifty years ago, we invented a weapon that could destroy whole cities and kill hundreds of thousands of people with one nuclear explosion. Today, we are developing a new family of weapons which are less than lethal, commonly referred to as non-lethal weapons. But are they? And to what end? The subject of today's "AMERICA'S DEFENSE MONITOR."
i watched this in late 2001 and was a bit concerned about a land battle in asia...
YouTube - The Beast - Soviets in Afghanistan (1981)
Act I from the movie THE BEAST (1981) about the Soviet ...
Watch video - 8 min -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h?
v=UkJ7pAnjTc8
YouTube - The Beast opening (1)
aka The Beast of Warabout the Afghanistan v. Soviet war ...
Watch video - 4 min 59 sec -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h?
v=5izT7mBvE8U
Thanks sane.--------
>>where do you go to trade???
Local communities, markets, in private, in person
>>what is the paperwork necessary???
No paperwork. You don't need it. Just develop
mutual trust with those you trade with.
>>go try it and then open your eyes.
NO... you open YOUR eyes... The entire world
financial system stinks and is a complete failure.
The elites want to keep it going, because they
all get a free ride, doing nothing productive and
useful, while getting super-rich controlling the
real workers.
Angry American | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 11:05 pm | #
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over the past 30 years, these methods have been infiltrated [but please do not stop, i believe that their methods are in direct violation of the constitution]
the IRS regularly checks into title transfers [documentation recorded into TIA], car titles, boat, airplane, and vehicle registrations, all credit card info including eBay transactions, or any other internet transactions, guiliani would go into jewelry pawns to force them into submission, and all of their paperwork in those shops include more info than the info needed to get a high level military clearance. oh yeah and try and buy a gun via barter, etc.
but again, do not stop all of these methods are anti-constitutional and would never be upheld in grand jury inquiry.
>>All states have outlawed or seriously curtailed all trading in the US.
Because the elites are blood-sucking parasites
who cannot survive without the hard work of
slaves, like the lower 80% of hard working middle
class and working class "blue collar" people and
farmers. Without the physical work being done,
they would all starve to death, or die of poverty,
because most pen-pushing, paper-shuffling elites
have no practical skills, in growing food, making
machinery and tools, creating useful products and
developing useful infrastructure to improve living
conditions in society. Most elites are ignorant and
uneducated paper-money worshippers, who think
that real value is in the size of numbers in your
bank accounts... But take away all the essential
services, like manufacturing, industry, farming,
education, water, gas, sewage treatment,
electricity supply... and what do you have? Can
a society full of stock market gamblers, lawyers,
accountants, bankers and super-rich people even
survive? NO WAY! They know they will suffer if
they don't have slaves to do all the hard work for
them. That's why they outlawed bartering and
trading without money or a paper trail.
That's why I said: MONEY IS THEIR WAY OF
CONTROLLING THE WORKERS. Without money,
they will not be able to survive, but the workers
with the skills and knowledge, have all the real
power... Money is only a means for exchange &
it has no real value in itself, without a physical
service or product (food, merchandise, resource)
being supplied.
The fact that since 1987, the Federal Reserve
Bank of the USA and Central Banks around the
world have allowed the purchase and sale of
money... or currency trading through the World
Bank... means that the entire system is INSANE!
The idiots who print so much money are creating
massive inflation (devaluation of money) just to
back up overpriced paper assets and insurance
contract values assigned to derivatives, futures,
options, and other forms of worthless insurance
contracts.
>>where do you go to trade???
Local communities, markets, in private, in person
>>what is the paperwork necessary???
No paperwork. You don't need it. Just develop
mutual trust with those you trade with.
>>go try it and then open your eyes.
NO... you open YOUR eyes... The entire world
financial system stinks and is a complete failure.
The elites want to keep it going, because they
all get a free ride, doing nothing productive and
useful, while getting super-rich controlling the
real workers.
Platform: I will publicly hang the villains of 9/11. Remember my name and write in "shit eating dog" on your ballot.
shit eating dog | 07.27.07 - 10:47 pm | #
I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THE CANDATCY, FOR THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE SHIT EATING DOG.
Sandy Paper | 07.27.07 - 10:43 pm | #
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try not to mess up in the ying/yang posts sandy paper/shit eating dog
Escalation Architect Says Calling The Army Broken ‘Is One Of The Most Offensive Statements To Make’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...architect-korb/
During testimony before the House Armed Services Committee today, the Center for American Progress’ military expert and co-author of Strategic Reset, Lawrence Korb, challenged Congress to address the growing crisis of troop morale and readiness in the U.S. forces as a result of the Bush administration’s failures in Iraq. Korb argued the Army is “broken” and in need of immediate repair:
I say to those people who want to keep up this surge indefinitely, if you have the courage of your convictions, then call for reinstatement of the draft. Because our volunteer Army was not designed, as Gen. Abizaid said, for the long war.
Escalation architect ret. Gen. Jack Keane and Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) tag-teamed in an effort to downplay the diminished strength of the military. Keane said calling the Army broken “is one of the most offensive statements we can make.”
Hunter, ignorant of the views of numerous national security experts, said to Korb, “I don’t think that any of those people you’ve quoted — did Gen. McCaffrey ever say, ‘the Army is broken?’” Korb responded, “I will give you the exact quote, ‘The ground combat capability of the U.S. Army forces is shot.’” Watch it:
Keane and Hunter are not only callously ignorant of the reality of the situation in Iraq and the condition of U.S. forces fighting there, but are also ignorant of the judgments of other military experts:
- Gen. Colin Powell: The “active Army is about broken,” Powell said. Even beyond Iraq, the Army and Marines have to “grow in size, in my military judgment,” he said, adding that Congress must provide significant additional funding to sustain them. [LINK]
- Lt. Gen. James R. “Ron” Helmly: In a “memo to other military leaders [Helmly expressed] “deepening concern” about the continued readiness of his troops, who have been used heavily in Iraq and Afghanistan, and warning that his branch of 200,000 soldiers “is rapidly degenerating into a ‘broken’ force.”" [LINK]
- Former Defense Secretary William Perry: The Bush administration has “failed adequately to assess the size of force and equipment needed in post-invasion Iraq, creating “a real risk of ‘breaking the force’.” [LINK]
- Chief Of Staff Gen. Peter Schoomaker: “Over the last five years, the sustained strategic demand … is placing a strain on the Army’s all-volunteer force,” Schoomaker told the commission in a Capitol Hill hearing. “At his pace … we will break the active component” unless reserves can be called up more to help, Schoomaker said.
Chickenhawk Congressman Smears Military Expert
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...michael-turner/
Center for American Progress military expert Lawrence Korb testified before the House Armed Services Committee this morning, challenging escalation proponents to have the courage of their convictions and call for a draft if they would like the surge to continue indefinitely.
One right-wing Ohio Congressman, Michael Turner, desperately tried to smear Korb during his question and answer period. Turner started off his smear attacks against Korb by questioning his credentials to speak before the panel:
TURNER: I was looking at your bio…that incorrectly I believe referred to you as Doctor Korb. And you do not have a PhD.
KORB: I do.
TURNER: You do have a PhD?
After humiliating himself once, Turner next turned his guns on Korb’s prepared written testimony. “I’ve not seen citations like this before the committee,” Turner said, noting that Korb referenced research sources in his statement. Korb said he provided the citations for the lawmakers as a reference point for more information. He noted that Gen. Jack Keane, a co-panelist, “did not have any footnotes. His were all opinions.”
After falling flat in his numerous stabs at Korb, Turner moved onto the next smear. Taking a comment made by Korb completely out of context, Turner asserted that you’ve told us “you’re not a military expert.” Korb responded:
I’ll put my record in terms of scholarship, in terms of analysis of war in terms of military issues up against anybody.
Watch it:
After propagating his false smears, Turner refused to allow Korb time to answer and attempted to flee the committee room quickly. Chairman Ike Skelton (D-MO) told Turner to sit down and listen to Korb’s response.
ThinkProgress contacted Turner’s office for comment on the incident. Andy Bloom, communications director for Turner, told us that Turner has never served in the military and has no substantive military experience. Asked if Turner was participating in a coordinated effort to smear Korb, Bloom said, “I can’t be certain.”
Turner is a classic “chickenhawk,” a term used to refer to strident war proponents who have never personally experienced war. Korb, on the other hand, is a Navy captain who served in Vietnam. He has served in the Pentagon, taught at the Naval War College and Coast Guard Academy, and has twice traveled to Iraq. He recently returned from a 10-day visit to Baghdad (see his dispatch here).
If you wish to contact Turner’s office, you can do so here.
UPDATE: Commenter Midwest Product fine-tunes the definition of “chickenhawk”: “A chickenhawk is someone who ascribes the bravery of soldiers in wartime to themselves because they take a pro-war position.”
Time For President To Come Clean On Tillman Cover-Up »
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...illman-coverup/
Our guest blogger is Jon Soltz, chairman of VoteVets.org and veteran of the Iraq war.
The worst way you can further exacerbate the pain survivors of a fallen soldier feel, is to keep them wondering why and how their loved one died. Now past three years since former NFL star Pat Tillman died in Afghanistan, his mother, Mary Tillman, and her family do not have answers. Unfortunately, documents meant to put the investigation into his death to rest are only bringing up more painful questions, rather than calming them. What’s worse is that the case could start to have serious repercussions with internal confidence in the Armed Forces.
Yesterday, the Associated Press reported that among the files on the case that the news agency obtained were details of Army medical examiners being unable to convince the military to look into whether Tillman was intentionally killed. According to the documents, the wounds they found were inconsistent with the government’s original official story that Tillman was cut down by Afghan fighters and looked more like he was killed by an American M-16 just a mere 10 yards away.
After an investigation, the government changed the story — that Tillman was a victim of friendly fire, an honest mistake, because he was mistaken for the enemy. The recent revelations now cast this conclusion into serious doubt. You don’t mistake someone from 10 yards away. But, was it murder or negligence? Was this a deliberate homicide?
President Bush is not helping at all. With these new details, and his decision to invoke executive privilege in the Tillman investigation, the President is certainly sending the signal that he has something to hide.
It is inevitable, then, that unless the President comes clean, rumors about Tillman’s death will take hold. By stonewalling, there is no way to stop people from wondering, “Was the man the White House used to promote the war ordered to be killed because he was becoming increasingly critical of the war in Iraq?” It was well known that Tillman was critical of the decision to go to war, and had often read and quoted Noam Chomsky. I don’t personally believe such a conspiracy to be the case, but until the President comes clean, rumors like that will continue to grow. Every officer knows that if a soldier in their command is killed they must write the family and tell them the truth, for exactly that reason. Why can’t the man who sent Pat Tillman to war, and used his death for political gain, have the courage to tell a family what happened to their son?
Platform: I will publicly hang the villains of 9/11. Remember my name and write in "shit eating dog" on your ballot.
I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THE CANDATCY, FOR THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE SHIT EATING DOG.
Yah. He's white. Unfortunately.
So who needs to be ruled by a minority of people
who don't represent the interests of the majority?
Angry American
Tell that to Newt Gingrich. He is elitist insider #1 who loves "minority" rule......
>>White rulers SUCK ! White rule cannot be trusted.
Angry American
Now that is a little over the top. Just because a lot of them stink to high heaven, let's not make this a racist remark.....
___________________________
Ok, ok, that is an over-generalisation, but it is
true, that most of the world's problems are due to
1. Greed, avarice, insatiable desire for control &
ownership over more than your fair share of
the Earth's natural resources.
2. Racism, racial prejudice, and a superiority
complex - favouring other people of your own
genetic background or DNA (eg. Europeans
and white caucasian countries all enjoy much
high currency values & buying power, than
most of the other non-white countries, meaning
they don't have to work as hard or as long as
asians and blacks, to buy the same things,
because World Bank / IMF currency exchange
rates tend to favour mostly white countries.
Don't believe me? $1 US = 2 days salary for an
average Sri Lankan man = about 100 Rupees.
$1 US = 3 hours average salary for a Filippino.
Average US worker earns over 12 times more
in $US income, than an average Chinese worker
or Indian worker... doing the same job...
Is this not slavery and usury based on race or
genetic discrimination? Why is this tolerated?
What about all the Africans who were kid-
napped and forced to work as slaves, planting
and harvesting rice and cotton, for no pay?
Early white Americans hanged and hunted
black people for fun. Early Australian whites
mass murdered more than 40,000 Aborigines.
The Spanish enslaved and murdered hundreds
of thousands of South American Indians, just
to mine for gold (metal, used for jewellery and
coins)... so many people died because of white
man's rule.
3. Pride... the inability to acknowledge, admit to,
and correct obvious mistakes. Often, denial
of mistakes leads to them being repeated.
The white race has assumed leadership and
control of the entire world, yet they only make up
about 11.7% of the entire human population.
So who needs to be ruled by a minority of people
who don't represent the interests of the majority?
ATTENTION........ATTENTION
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http://masters-ofwar.org/ deathc....athculture.html
We Are ALL One | 07.27.07 - 10:13 pm | #
What an awesome idea!!!!!!!
spread the word everywhere and make sure to check out the rest of the pages:
Bushwars
http://masters-of-war.org/war.html
Bushlies
http://masters-of-war.org/bushlies.html
Cheneylies
http://masters-of-war.org/
cheney...cheneylies.html
Incurious George
http://masters-of-war.org/
incuri...iousgeorge.html
St. George
http://masters-of-war.org/stgeorge.html
King George (the madness of)
http://masters-of-war.org/madness.html
George the Lionheart and the New Crusades
http://masters-of-war.org/bushgod.html
George of Orwell
http://masters-of-war.org/
george...geoforwell.html
Georgie Warbucks
http://masters-of-war.org/
GEORGI...20WARBUCKS.html
George W. Hoover
http://masters-of-war.org/George....%
20Hoover.html
Vanishing Votes
http://masters-of-war.org/
vanish...shingvotes.html
Death Culture
http://masters-of-war.org/
deathc...athculture.html
911 Accountability
http://masters-of-war.org/
911ACC...UNTABILITY.html
(Not-so) Friendly Fascism
http://masters-of-war.org/
friend...dlyfascism.html
Project For A New American Perpetual War
http://masters-of-war.org/pnac.html
Fanning the Flames of Fear, Loathing and Terror
http://masters-of-war.org/
osamaw...mawantsyou.html
T h e C o l l a t e r a l C h i l d r e n
http://masters-of-war.org/
deathc...thculture2.html
About This Site: A Gathering Danger
http://masters-of-war.org/
aboutt...utthissite.html
Seeing how incredibly uninformed and misinformed so many Americans seem to be, I felt strongly, desperately even, the need to get this this information out to people, to wake them up to this danger, so that we might form some sort of defense against this fast creeping, ever growing threat. And like Bill Moyers, I believe that defense has to begin with information: i.e., the truth. I realize I'm just Some Guy, Joe Average Citizen, with even less credibility than Dick Cheney. You may think I'm overstating, exaggerating, hysterical, even paranoid; but I don't expect you to take my word for it. That's why this introduction, (and this site) is bolstered with quotes and interviews with Smart People, people like Walter Cronkite, Bill Moyers, Kurt Vonnegut, Nelson Mandela and the Mayor of London. People who know a little of what's going on. People who are telling us the danger is real, and it's now. You don't have to take my word for anything. But I hope you'll listen and hear them. Your freedom, and your life, and the lives of your family, and the survival of our democracy, our country, and our planet, depend on it. To continue following them down their path of greed, fear and violence can only ultimately destroy us all, in a vicious downward spiral of endless lies, terrorism and war. Did we learn nothing from the example of Israel and Palestine? Did we learn nothing from Vietnam? Did we learn nothing from Watergate and October Surprise and Iran Contra? Did we learn nothing from the the assisted coups and the collusions with dictators and death squads in South and Central America, whose greatest enemies were true Christians and missionaries? Did we learn nothing from the example of Germany in the 1930's? What have we become? What have we allowed ourselves to become? Caught between the comfort of our delusions and the anxiety of fears stoked by our court-appointed rulers, we have blindly followed them down a dark path, possibly of No Return. With fear as a prod, we're being lured into a monumental quagmire--not just in Iraq--but, likely, a world wide conflagration--as in World War III.
About This Site's Creator: JOSEPH BARNEY [A true American Superhero!!!!!!]
Joseph Barney began his career as an illustrator at Continuity Associates in New York, the commercial art studio commandeered by comics legend Neal Adams. He also worked on Madison Avenue, turning out hundreds of storyboards and 'animatics' for TV commercials. He free-lanced as a comic book penciller as well, working on such famous Marvel Comics characters as The Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, and Fantastic Four. In the nineties Joe moved west to work in the burgeoning multimedia arena. Among his recent projects: character design for Broderbund software's Carmen Sandeigo nemesis Chase Devineaux; animation artwork for the CD-ROM games Mysterious Island and Marty the Mouse for Elliot-Portwood Productions; a web adventure comic series for Eplay, an educational children's web site; production paintings and storyboards for the CGI 'cinematics' of Crystal Dynamics' Akuji the Heartless Playstation game; and a 'film noir' comic book for the I.T. consulting firm Xpedior. Joe is also an instructor in comic book illustration at the Academy of Art in San Francisco. You can see some his work at http://www.communicomics.com/
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PLEASE PLEASE check this jammed pack information website out!!! It is huge and long but from start to finish EXTREMELY IMPORTANT issues for us all to know about. Also, pass this website on to your friends and friends, friends. What a powerful website for our wake up call.
http://masters-ofwar.org/
deathc....athculture.html
When I am six foot under, I will still pound the dirt above.
HAHAHA.
Don't Tread On Me | 07.27.07 - 10:02 pm | #
NICE!!!
"Pot-bellied, slack-jawed, beaver-eyed scum"....
Now that is what we have to fear.
White rulers SUCK ! White rule cannot be trusted.
Angry American
Now that is a little over the top. Just because a lot of them stink to high heaven, let's not make this a racist remark.....
NATURE IS WAR: Very wrong assumption
SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Rubbish
As a helpless baby, are you not glad your parents
did not throw you in the bin because you were
weak and defenceless? You have no compassion.
THE STRONG ARE MEANT TO DOMINATE THE WEAK
Does that mean elephants should rule the planet?
Adult elephants are stronger than adult humans,
any day. And what right does any person have,
whether he be strong, rich or super smart, to
DOMINATE anybody? Who needs to be
dominated? Who wants to be controlled by others
with bigger egos and feelings of greater self
importance? Why do we need their control and
power over our lives? It's totally for their own
selfish gains and desires.
IT'S ONLY NATURE'S WAY: It's the idiot's way.
That's why Hitler and dozens of other world ruler
wannabes, all failed. Free people hate dictators
and opressive rulers. Who needs them? What
good can they do? Who needs to feel inferior to
white western people and subject themselves to
white cultures and values, which is are mostly
centred around money worship and extravagant
lifestyles anyway and the pursuit of power and
collecting lots of expensive junk nobody needs...
THIS IS HOW THE WORLD IS DESIGNED
No, this is how YOU think... very narrow minded!
IT CAN'T BE ANY OTHER WAY
No, this is your wrong assumption. It is wrong.
BLAME "GOD" IF YOU WANT, IT'S HIS DESIGN
No, blame yourself for accepting these mistaken
beliefs, and USE YOUR BRAIN, rather than allow
it to be controlled by other dimwits who believe
such BS... You have to think bigger than yourself
and your own race. Eugenics & racism = Bull shit!
White superiority is bullshit. Most of the biggest
problems on the planet were created by white
people, including 9/11, all the fake terror and fake
news to scare the world into a state of fear of
fake terrorists, unfair currency exchange rates
that enslave most poor countries and keep them
poor through unfair currency manipulation, wars
in the middle East, military invasions of oil rich
countries, over 70,000,000 killed in World Wars,
genocide, orchestration of civil wars and military
coups in Africa, stealing water away from the
Nile to create drought and famine in Ethiopia,
Sudan and sub-Saharan Africa, so that Israel can
get most of the water... mass murder of natives
and Aborigines in Australia, mass starvation of the
North American Indians through Buffalo hunting
causing over 4,750,000 natives to starve to death
because white wanted to steal their land for gold
mining.
White rulers SUCK ! White rule cannot be trusted.
When I am six foot under, I will still pound the dirt above.
HAHAHA.
I know. I shouldn't be so harsh. Most folk just don't see the forest through the trees. The smoke on the horizon seems yet far away. But they underestimate the dry wood around them, and the speed by which the flames will travel....
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fuck that shit, be brash, bold, harsh, etc.
let them spit on you while alive, they will praise and remember you and all of us when we lie 6 feet under.
because when we are lying 6 foot under it might be more difficult to WAKE PEOPLE UP!!!!!!!!!!!
iPhone Sends Itemized Bill For Every Single Image You Access
http://consumerist.com/consumer/...cess-
283398.php
Unfortunately, Apple's design gurus didn't get to lovingly sculpt AT&T's billing system, so when the first iPhone users opened their bills this month, they got a surprise. Actually, pages upon pages of surprises. Every single image gets assessed a fee based on its kilobytes, and is then painstakingly itemized on your AT&T bill. Hundreds of listings of "Data Transfer" of type "Data" at rate code "MBRF," along with its kilobytes. Never mind if the customer is on an unlimited data transfer plan. New York Times technology writer David Pogue's bill was nine pages long. Daring Fireball's was 45. The Poguester kills it best with, "This development illustrates yet another clash between Apple's typical philosophy of elegance and simplicity-and the unprepared, cluelessness of its cellular partner."
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Holy shit, get ready for some serious BLOWBACK!!!
I know. I shouldn't be so harsh. Most folk just don't see the forest through the trees. The smoke on the horizon seems yet far away. But they underestimate the dry wood around them, and the speed by which the flames will travel....
Cheney to get pacemaker battery replaced Saturday
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
Ch...laced_0727.html
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I wonder if he will relinquish power to George Bush while he undergoes this procedure, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......
Excuse me. There were more than one.
DUMBASSE(S)! Plural.
Schumer: Roberts, Alito 'duped' us into confirming them
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
Sc...us_at_0727.html
read between the lines under the cover of propaganda:
http://www.militarytimes.com/mul...ideo/iraq_drmo/
Dr NWO is cool, he comes to remind us how fucked up these eugenics mind controling raping satanists are.
he does not actually believe the shit he posts, he just posts it to demonstrate the idiocy of their philosophy
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 9:10 pm |
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Dr NO NWO is cool . DR NWO is , well, pro-new world order- do not confuse.
Hi Sane !
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you are correct, but dr nwo is not an actual NWO supporter or he would use deception rather than truth in describing the NWO fucked up plans.
just my opinion, who knows maybe dr nwo is really that fricking twisted or the adolescent child of a skull and bonesman that has been indoctrinated into the f-d up philosophy...
either way as i said before his posts send off all types of signals on the BS meter and are easily debunked.
This Adam guy is totally BRAIN DEAD. 911 was not staged? Dude. Put down the college books, turn off the boob tube, and google video up some "Loose Change" and some shit. Your totally self deceived. You will probably tell yourself, when they make everyone put a biometric tattoo in their RIGHT HAND, "Oh, it's not the mark of the Beast, that is 200 years away........."
People like you, are a waste of a life preserver.
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Yah. I have been telling people for years they are trying to eliminate cash and tag us like animals. They said things like "That will never happen in my lifetime or yours" and "Not for another 50 to 100 years" etc. etc.
NO DUMBASS! It is going to happen when they crash this economy and and implode our country from within. In the meantime, they will continue prepping us psychologically to accept it. Many will get "tagged" and they will go on and on about the benefits and perks. Nothing will seem to come of it. So more people will join in. And those who don't will become second class citizens or thrown in jail. Or maybe they'll just speed things along since the truth is gaining ground on their little elitists asses and they drop the bottom out altogether. I tend to think the latter will become the preferred route, since they can't squash the resistance. So in their sick, twisted minds, they will blame us for having to drop the hammer as we force their hand!
I'd just soon get it over with.
Face it Dr. NWO. God gave you a conscience too. You just choose to ignore it. "That" is a part of nature.
Don't Tread On Me | 07.27.07 - 9:06 pm | #
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Dr NWO is cool, he comes to remind us how fucked up these eugenics mind controling raping satanists are.
he does not actually believe the shit he posts, he just posts it to demonstrate the idiocy of their philosophy
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 9:10 pm |
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Dr NO NWO is cool . DR NWO is , well, pro-new world order- do not confuse.
Hi Sane !
http://c-span.org
general keane defends the iraq surge and explains that congress is mistaken in their assessment of the iraq war.
he says that the war is going very well and that sadr is on the run and both sunni and shia now support the iraqi gov and the us gov.
dude you cannot make this shit up, watch it for yourselves.
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 9:13 pm | #
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Lawrence Korb [one of the most respected analysts] is lettung us know how much the surge threatens the US national security...
his opening quote:
"this surge is built on sand, it cannot work..."
KICK ASS!!!!
how come the MSM will not mention a word of this congressional hearing?
because they are paid off by the MIC
WAKE UP!
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 9:18 pm | #
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Holy shit after Lawrence Korb issued his opening statement filled with truth a peace activist screamed out "thank you sir" which then had the chairman ike skelton [what a name] bang the gavel and say "please escort her out of the room...there will be no more demonstrations"
double shit, ike just struck down the gavel again and said "out you all" to all of the pink demonstrators-they totally kick ass.We need an audience participation in the congress in the future. it will be a guard against the BS from witnesses and inquisitors.
duncan hunter jumps in and says for the doors to close and for no more in and out audience membber...strap yourselves in boys and girls...this is gonna be a good one for the congressional hearing archives
Angry American | I still believe we could trade in paper money if the people doing the "trading" has some integrity and a higher calling to create a system that is built on "responsibility and generosity". Unfortunately, our economy is built on greed and lust for power.
Don't Tread On Me | 07.27.07 - 9:17 pm | #
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All states have outlawed or seriously curtailed all trading in the US.
where do you go to trade???
what is the paperwork necessary???
go try it and then open your eyes.
http://c-span.org
general keane defends the iraq surge and explains that congress is mistaken in their assessment of the iraq war.
he says that the war is going very well and that sadr is on the run and both sunni and shia now support the iraqi gov and the us gov.
dude you cannot make this shit up, watch it for yourselves.
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 9:13 pm | #
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Lawrence Korb [one of the most respected analysts] is lettung us know how much the surge threatens the US national security...
his opening quote:
"this surge is built on sand, it cannot work..."
KICK ASS!!!!
how come the MSM will not mention a word of this congressional hearing?
because they are paid off by the MIC
WAKE UP!
Angry American |
I still believe we could trade in paper money if the people doing the "trading" has some integrity and a higher calling to create a system that is built on "responsibility and generosity". Unfortunately, our economy is built on greed and lust for power.
Got you. Still erked me.....
Don't Tread On Me | 07.27.07 - 9:14 pm | #
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yeah i used to spend hours looking up shit to annihalate his arguments until i realized that they fail the first level of the BS test.
he does not actually believe the shit he posts, he just posts it to demonstrate the idiocy of their philosophy
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Got you. Still erked me.....
http://c-span.org
general keane defends the iraq surge and explains that congress is mistaken in their assessment of the iraq war.
he says that the war is going very well and that sadr is on the run and both sunni and shia now support the iraqi gov and the us gov.
dude you cannot make this shit up, watch it for yourselves.
And that my friends is how to identify a moronically obvious disinfo agent.
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That was a good one.
Face it Dr. NWO. God gave you a conscience too. You just choose to ignore it. "That" is a part of nature.
Don't Tread On Me | 07.27.07 - 9:06 pm | #
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Dr NWO is cool, he comes to remind us how fucked up these eugenics mind controling raping satanists are.
he does not actually believe the shit he posts, he just posts it to demonstrate the idiocy of their philosophy
Outsourcing DMV Data to Mexico
http://www.ocregister.com/news/c...465-courts-
data
John and Ken at KFI in Los Angeles flagged this story yesterday about Orange County, California ’s outsourcing of DMV data processing to Mexico. The Orange County Register follows up. Officials are blaming the talk radio messengers, naturally, instead of acknowledging the potential for harm....
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WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Face it Dr. NWO. God gave you a conscience too. You just choose to ignore it. "That" is a part of nature.
NEW Report: Economic divide at 40-year-high
http://uk.reuters.com/article/
do...676385220070716
The gap between rich and poor in Britain - often referred to as the north-south divide - is getting wider, according to a survey. The report also says one of the main reasons for the increase in wealth is raising house prices, which have left many people sitting on large amounts of equity….
żʞɔnɟ ǝɥʇ ʇɐɥʍ
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_...m?
link_id=24226
NATURE IS WAR
SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST
THE STRONG ARE MEANT TO DOMINATE THE WEAK
IT'S ONLY NATURE'S WAY
THIS IS HOW THE WORLD IS DESIGNED
IT CAN'T BE ANY OTHER WAY
BLAME "GOD" IF YOU WANT, IT'S HIS DESIGN
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Wrong! We have a conscience and can interpret right from wrong. To him much is given, much is expected. We are supposed to take care of those that are weaker. That is why the world is upside down. The strong are running rampant over those whom they should be helping.....
I wish I could be of more help :-(
Shit | 07.27.07 - 3:03 pm | #
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I do believe you are right. (Except for your name, your posts have been perfect.)
There's a time you can still speak out and there will be a time to keep silent. (And even keep silent around your own children as they will be drilled as school about what you say at home.) And even some of our own children will turn against us and will join them; and they may even be instrumental in putting some parents to death.
The Bible says, "When you see trouble coming, hide yourself."
What has been set up with surely come upon us.
Israel can't afford to confront Iran
http://www.presstv.ir/
detail.asp...ionid=351020202
Deputy war minister of the Israel, Ephraim Sneh, has said Israel's armed forces lack sufficient funds to confront Iran's threats.
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here it is...iran gets nuke parts from halliburton/giza turkey connection then israel gets more weapons for a BS threat.
we sell to both sides in all wars just like rothschild taught us to do.
we also are supporting the hijacked zionist/hijacked christian right yearning for wwIII to bring about the second coming of the messiah via the destruction of the holiest muslim sacred land. of course it is the hijacked islamic fundamentalism that is fueling the fire.
why can't we just prosecute the hijackers?
it hardly gets any worse than
Photos: At The Titan Missile Museum
http://content.zdnet.com/2346-95..._22-
156296.html
CNET News.com reporter Daniel Terdiman visited the Titan Missile Museum in Sahuarita, Ariz., as part of his Road Trip 2007 around the Southwest.
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These pictures represent the original viagra for neocon warmongerers - see chevy chase and gregory heines in deal of the century for more info.
Bancroft Wrangling Intensifies As Bid Deadline Looms For Dow Jones, Splits In the Family Remain
http://online.wsj.com/article/
SB...e_whats_news_us
As a Monday deadline neared for the Bancroft family to decide on Rupert Murdoch's $5 billion offer for Dow Jones & Co., last-minute wrangling by family members and their trustees intensified. Family lawyers were scrambling Friday to change the voting structure of the biggest Bancroft trust so it would better reflect the views of all the beneficiaries. The trust's overseers include Christopher Bancroft, a prominent family member who has been outspoken in his opposition to the deal. The restructuring could dilute Mr. Bancroft's influence over the stock now held in the trust. On Friday, another key family trust seen as an important swing vote was planning to oppose the deal,
Iraq war veteran and demolitions expert blows the cover on 9/11 inside job.
http://nationalwriterssyndicate....id=128&
Itemid=2
Meet Torin Wolf. He has a broad and varied background in the US Army during Operation Iraqi Freedom, building construction contractor, certified structural welder, certified asbestos and hazardous materials worker, experienced demolitions expert, teacher, radio show host, and well studied 9/11 truth activist.
Missing Iraq war vet found, committed suicide
http://www.virginiamn.com/mdn/?
s...story_id=209869
Noah Charles Pierce “shot himself,’’ and was found around 10 p.m., said Lt. Ed Kippley.
Wikipedia's founder builds an open-source search engine
http://www.salon.com/tech/machin.../27/
wiki_search
Jimmy Wales invests in a "distributed" effort to index the Web, part of his plan to build an open alternative to Google.
NAFTA Made a Mexican the World’s Richest Man
http://news.newamericamedia.org/
...c4a98ddf7769ee3
Which country could give the son of a poor immigrant from an impoverished faraway land so many opportunities as to make him the world ’s richest man? Mexico. It is NAFTA’s most ironic of unintended consequences that Carlos Slim, the Mexican son of Arab immigrants, surpassed this month Bill Gates to become the world’s richest man.
I personally feel that the whole "Bush is dumb/smart" debate is another way to split the defenders of the constitution down the middle.
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Sane: We are already split down the middle by "those who are awake and know" and "those who are asleep." Lincoln (plus the Bible) said, "a nation divided cannot stand." We need help! It doesn't matter whether Bush is smart or dumb. The fact is that he "fooled" and "is fooling" many people.
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I am really starting to wonder what is going on...
OK we know that the powerful secret pagan societoes wish to dominate the world and enslave the popultion...
but let us look at the historical evidence...
history over the past 3,000 years can be defined by the hidden wars between secret societies [or something like that, i am surely misquoting a more intelligent person here]
so what do we have... the rothschild/rockefeller v the buffet/schultz???
obviously they all willingly did 9/11 but who really did and keeps doing iraq?
there seems to be much defection in the solidarity of worldwide secret societies on this one.
could cheney and his master's power play be slowly awakening the world?
what would have happened if nixon did not resign? how awake would the planet be?
could cheney/bush's stubborn artrogance be contributing to the disruption of the worldwide mind control program?
i know that i would not be awake if it was not for 2 years of bloodshed and no answers to the illegal iraq war
every year another 30 million americans wake up.
as the elites realize the fragile framework of their 50 million world population theory...there is sure to be even more collosal infighting.
If constant protesting and calls for impeachment
don't work to remove Dirty Dick and Smelly Bush
from power, just remember ... JFK...
"Ask not what your country can do for you... but
what you can do for your country..."
Clean out the garbage... are you not tired of
the stink of mass murderers, war profiteers and
corruption in the highest levels of power? Are you
not going to do anything to bring the real idiots
and mass murderes, who planned 9/11, to get the
punishment they deserve?
Look what they did:
http://www.truth911.net
(Watch "9/11 Mysteries" and "Loose Change v2")
Also, read all the evidence of fabricated terra at
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html
including the fake London 7/7 bombings... and the
staged Bali bombings.
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET THIS MODERN
GENERATION OF PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT
THING, AND REMOVE STUPID PEOPLE FROM
POWER? MORE FAKE TERRA ATTACKS? MORE
INNOCENT PEOPLE BEING KILLED JUST TO KEEP
UP THE LIES AND FEAR CAMPAIGN? DO YOU
NEED MORE EVIDENCE OF MORE LIES & FAKE
WAR PROPAGANDA AND REAL CONSPIRACIES?
JUST LOOK AT ALL THE FREEDOM-STRIPPING
LAWS INTRODUCED SINCE 9/11... the USA is
being set up for a dictatorship, and your next
ruler will be a puppet of your financial / media
powers, who will keep telling you more lies just so
you can serve the will of the elite and die in wars
for profit... Their ONLY power over you is your
own belief that their printed money has any real
value... yes, those who print the money at will,
those who create "value" instantly out of thin air,
money which is not backed by any assets, are
using you all as slaves... like peasant slaves... like
chess pieces... feeding you lies and making you
all afraid, just so you can be easily manipulated
and scared into doing EVERYTHING they demand.
Abandon the money system. Stop being slaves.
Go back to trading physical goods and services
and real physical merchandise again. Do real work
with your hands... stop all of this useless paper
trading, and monopoly-like gambling of shares and
derivatives (futures, options, warrants and other
insurance contracts that are massive time wasters
and which do not add any real value to the world).
Human beings have a much higher purpose. To
learn about the Univerise, travel to other worlds,
explore the cosmos, develop the planet to become
a better place to live in for all.... NOT just staring
and computer screens all day, chasing paper
money profits and wasting time playing video
games like completely useless vegetables.
What will you leave behind for future generations?
What will be your legacy? What good things can
you contribute to humanity that will improve the
standard of living and quality of life for all people?
Invent. Create. Work hard. Stop being lazy
parasitic bludgers, believing in stupid ideas and
failed philosophies like worshiping printed paper
money that has no real intrinsic value. The REAL
value is in useful physical goods, services, food,
water, natural resources AND WHAT WE DO WITH
OUR TIME... WHAT WE DO TO MAKE THE FUTURE
BETTER THAN OUR OWN CURRENT EXPERIENCE.
Stop denying the truth that things are just
getting worse and worse, regardless of the many
lies about how well the economy and the war in
Iraq are doing. The USA is a sinking Titanic and
those who are not running to the lifeboats are in
total denial of reality. Just look at the US foreign
debt, trade deficit, and onging loss of skilled jobs!
The US is heading towards a future of poverty,
where only a minority of super rich will rule as
dictators and plutocrats... This is the future that
greedy bankers, paper money gamblers and the
unproductive elite want for you and your children.
Fight it... resist... rebel... impeach... remember
JFK if you have to...
Don't allow your country to be ruined, or you will
deserve what's coming...
OK.........wait a minute.
Do we all agree all in politics are corrupt? Yes?
Do we all agree that the 2004 elections were stolen, yes?
Do we all agree that the many executive orders were put in place for a reason, yes?
My question is this:
What on earth makes you think that the 2008 elections will take place and if they did, that the "winner" isn't already chosen?
Also, do you really think that now everything is in place to turn us into slaves, that America will just continue on in Candy Land and we'll still have the elections, we'll still get to celebrate and that the shadow government is just going to HAND OVER America without having their chance to play "master" and whip us, torture us and kill us?
Do you honestly think that an impeachment is actually going to happen. It won't and the bastards of the NWO will make certain of that. IF, they impeached Clinton for something so minor as getting his dick sucked, do you honestly think, with all the criminal activity CLEARLY, that they are even going to consider impeachment.
THEY WON'T and they never will.
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They make their fucked up plans in fucked up scenarios that hardly ever take into account all of the various parameters created by free will.
I do not think they completely accounted for how obsessed with power cheney really is.
I do not think they accounted for gwb listening to cheney over listening to his own father.
I don't think they accounted for obvious asian tension that they are clearly bending over backwards to deal with in both russia and china.
I don't think they truly understood how powerful the internet really is
i do not think they accounted for lou dobbs clear distaste for NWO
i do not think they accounted for luke rising to be the force x 100 of dan wallace's timeless spirit
i do not think they realized that the VT, TB, and London smoke bomb false flags would so quickly be diffused
i do not think they realized how scared they would be to pull the nuke false flag as over 70% of the world population no longer believe their BS.
i do not think they realized that the iraq truth will come out 30 years quicker than the vietnam truth took...
etc, etc.
do not underestimate how evil they are, but also do not overestimate their control and dominance over the world's free will and quest for truth.
Okay, I can see that some of you folks are just too involved to sit back and relax and be informed by means of a Friday Night Movie -- the one I suggested earlier (below) -- that's okay.
Perhaps this title strikes your fancy better // "9/11 Mysteries" --
(Google Video - 1 hr; 31 min)
http://video.google.ca/
videoplay...190071483512003
This website and some reader comments are usefully adding to my recently-increased awareness of the monstrous and presumptuous conspirators and criminals who have seized power in America. If I may shed light on a little-noticed aspect of this evil, please visit my profile and a couple of my articles dealing with the specifics of the Government's collusion with the multi-billion-dollar film industry, at http://www.helium.com/user/show/89941 - I don't think you'll be disappointed in focusing on the writings regarding this one subject.
With regard to martial law, we don't need our own National Military to enforce it. That's what covert training over the years of FEMA thugs is all about.There is in place a shadow military for a shadow government.
NATURE IS WAR
SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST
THE STRONG ARE MEANT TO DOMINATE THE WEAK
IT'S ONLY NATURE'S WAY
THIS IS HOW THE WORLD IS DESIGNED
IT CAN'T BE ANY OTHER WAY
BLAME "GOD" IF YOU WANT, IT'S HIS DESIGN
I personally feel that the whole "Bush is dumb/smart" debate is another way to split the defenders of the constitution down the middle.
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Sane: We are already split down the middle by "those who are awake and know" and "those who are asleep." Lincoln (plus the Bible) said, "a nation divided cannot stand." We need help! It doesn't matter whether Bush is smart or dumb. The fact is that he "fooled" and "is fooling" many people.
Looking for a Friday Night Movie -- Here's a good one on 9/11 titled "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime '
(Google Video -- 1 hr, 11 min)
http://video.google.com/
videopla...366181300641663
Death and destruction -- It never changes, it's always at the expense of the innocents. See this clip --
http://video.google.com/
videopla...epleted+uranium
Hi Marj. You mentioned in your post about your feelings Bush was calculating warplans.
Kind of strange, but when I saw the television and the footage of the collapse, and the Pentagon scene, I told the group I work with, he did it, the SOB did it, the guys I worked with asked me what I was talking about, and i told them that this was a internal demoltion job and their had to be Gov. involvment. I mentioned BUSH as the puppet master, and told them here we go, were in for it now, the stage has been set.
Can't say they went along with me , but thats the truth. Its almost as if that day I saw America die, to add, the day JFK was murdered, i felt as though a mortal wound was implanted in the chest of America. The criminals took over that day. I got this thing, ya know, the day JFK was assasinated America was mortaly wounded, on 911 America as we know it died.
Ive been traveling a lot druing my past 30 years, about 20% of the people I have met know that Americans are roboticaly patriotic but not behind the plot altogether,decent folk for the most part being used is what I'm attemtping to say. The remaining 80% consider us warmongering, bully on the block, murdering, conciencless, egotistical flag waving morons, and would love to see America on its Knees.
They know 4 million civilians died in Vietnnam, and 800,000 died in Iraq, familes that is, innocents.
The world is not blind to our atrocitys, in south america many said to me, how could your goverment kill so many of its own people. Then deceive them telling them WMDS are in Iraq and invade. Are they that patrioticly controlled, brainwahed, they will beleive anything. Marj. the world knows and they are afraid of us, but they would want revenge given the opportunity.
***Redemption on a global scale would be to hang the traitors in public, all of them, each and every one who betrayed this nation for profit.
..This regime is and its cronys are making fortunes, just as they did in Vietnam. But their plans are the takeover of this land and its citizens.
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Dear Chris: They did all that retribution (have trials and hang the traitors in public) at the Nuerenburg trials after Hitler was finally taken down in 1945.
Then after that, we could blame Johnson and Nixon (and even Reagan) for all that went wrong during their eras, as it was "their fault" and we were young and our parents were still around and we didn't feel we had to take much of the blame or guilt.
But the Bushes/Clinton/churches/ politicians, NGOs, etc. all have the same evil agenda (fascism and takeover and "those who oppose them are going to die") and they won't accept any guilt. They are so good at fooling us that many citizens are still asleep and do not even feel the captivity that is encompassing us. (The Bible says: Let us not sleep as others do but let us be awake and watching them.)
Now we have this 3rd Reich (which was mortally wounded (or so we thought) after World War II coming back and rearing its ugly head again; and it is now joined with 7 other countries (US, Canada, UK, France, Japan, Italy, and Russia), and is known as the 8-headed beast in the Bible or the G-8/NWO. Plus there is the dragon who is giving the beast its power which is China and its most favored nation trade status; and finally the cunning and evil "false prophet" (guess who he is?) who is in charge of it all and is calling all the shots and will be forcing us all to "worship the mark of this beast" unless we can find a way out (which we will).
Now about you: How exciting to do all that traveling and talk to all those people.
I, too, felt the same ominous feelings when President Kennedy was killed. I could feel a "shadow government" taking over and placing themselves in our nation's "drivers' seat;" and I just knew that "Camelot" would soon come to an end. And I could see Sr. Bush's semi- invisible "fangs" (when he smiled) in the late 80's and heard him talk about bringing about the NWO, and I knew he meant business. And I, too, knew from the get-go that 9/11 was an inside job. It was like a big pressure in the air all of a sudden bursting (like a zit) when the first plane hit the tower. So I knew it was known and simultaneously planned by evil people in America who were near.
Isn't it amazing how you "just know," and it turns out you are exactly right? (I told them so, and soon they will be eating "crow.")
I feel you are a kindred spirit!
Woops -- Sent that off before ready // What I wanted to say was of course we know the election will be rigged // that those behind the curtain have long known who it is THEY intend to put in the driver's chair (just as they selected GWB) // And of course I know I'm NOT going to hit the BIG GAME LOTTERY this weekend -- but -- that's not gonna stop me, I'm gonna go buy that ticket anyway.
I think it's called hope. It might be called stupidity, but I like the sound of hope much better.
You know, there are many things that upset me deep down in my soul and the murder of the millions of Jews is that our united states government want to not only repeat this horror but inflict pain and torture on American citizens on ways that nobody can possibly imagine. With todays technology and what we see happening to the families in Iraq, that exact same horrible torture can/will take place in the new FEMA camps. I get sick to think that the NWO wants to actually "top" that, they want to do "new" things to mangle our bodys. To think that bush has actually signed his OK on torturing our children, even as young as 6 months old!!!!! There is a whole new level of evil on this earth right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...h?
v=JGzY7urKkls
Do you honestly think that an impeachment is actually going to happen. It won't and the bastards of the NWO will make certain of that. IF, they impeached Clinton for something so minor as getting his dick sucked, do you honestly think, with all the criminal activity CLEARLY, that they are even going to consider impeachment.
THEY WON'T and they never will.
Shit | 07.27.07 - 7:07 pm |
JBird,
I LIKE your style dear. Sometimes I feel like the only one making sense here.
Thank you
OK.........wait a minute.
Do we all agree all in politics are corrupt? Yes?
Do we all agree that the 2004 elections were stolen, yes?
Do we all agree that the many executive orders were put in place for a reason, yes?
My question is this:
What on earth makes you think that the 2008 elections will take place and if they did, that the "winner" isn't already chosen?
Also, do you really think that now everything is in place to turn us into slaves, that America will just continue on in Candy Land and we'll still have the elections, we'll still get to celebrate and that the shadow government is just going to HAND OVER America without having their chance to play "master" and whip us, torture us and kill us?
Do you honestly think that an impeachment is actually going to happen. It won't and the bastards of the NWO will make certain of that. IF, they impeached Clinton for something so minor as getting his dick sucked, do you honestly think, with all the criminal activity CLEARLY, that they are even going to consider impeachment.
THEY WON'T and they never will.
Another Guiliani scandal (and this guy is still running for President of the NWO) // Imagine that:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...707Giuliani.htm
To GAK
???????
"It's not about sex Gary! It's about trust! You've......let me down before. I need to know you are 100% dedicated to the team!"- Spotsworth
I was on a trip to Munich years ago and stopped at Dachau to pay tribute to the memory of what happened there. Nothing remains of any of the buildings except the foundations to mark the spot where a building once stood, a furnaces on display, a museum loaded whith photographs.
I have a haunting memory of one photograph // A portly Nazi all smiles with his fist at his waist standing proud high upon a 'mountain' of piled dead bodies. What a sick SOB he was and the same for person that took that photo.
Ever wonderWHY September 11th got so tangled in our memories when it came to Iraq and became reason for us to go marching off to war? This is the reason --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h?
v=Z0Ag395cqUM
Need another reminder?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h?v=4aaf-
4aL9VE
Getting to be that time again -- REMINDER --
Watch this 3-min video and sign the petition (you that want to help take back our country)
http://impeachcheney.org/
Ron Paul in SL in the news:
http://techpresident.personaldem...cy.com/node/
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I am going down to Social Services to apply for "beer stamps". I should qualify. Low income. Need beer.
IMPORTANT CALL TO RON PAUL SUPPORTERS:
check this out. Ron Paul has an unofficial HQ in Second Life. It looks pretty good.
There is a guy that has started a Demand for Event to have Ron Paul talk in Second Life. Go check it at:
http://eventful.com/demand/D0-00...001-000239552-
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=-
ZbBe2E94UM
My neighbors kid is so bad, I am thinking about calling PPS on them. (Parent Protective Services). The boy is terrible two's , and a literal nightmare. He is driving everyone one over the edge.
Yes, I mean No, I mean Damn!!!!
Order (etc., etc) allows the government to take control of -- EVERYTHING.
It is clear as mud WHY Bush put Brownie as his FEMA Director // a flunky willing to do his master's bidding; suspect Chertoff (DHS) is just as willing considering his 'gut feeling' about what's coming down the pike, right around the corner this summer when al Qaeda (according to Chertoff) prefer to do their attacking ( -- before breakfast is my bet).
Again -- Damn!!
2 Helicopters crash in Phoenix about 2 hours ago. Nothing left of the helicopters that fell from several hundred feet. Hmmmm, just like the plane that hit the Pentagon. Hmmmm Alex, what kind of Bullshit can you make up about this one? You flipping morons !
Hmmmm | 07.27.07 - 5:15 pm | #
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Really??? You really are not that good a reporter are you hmmmmm...
"We we watching the squad cars. Then we heard the pop and the hiss.
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_...x?
storyid=78595
It wasn't a loud explosion. It looked like the helicopters split in two. Black smoke came straight up."Police have evacuated everyone from the park as soon as they could.At least 15 cop cars and five firetrucks on the scene.Police have shut down Indian School going to right and left of park and Third Street.Another witness, Amber Eastep, told the station, "The two choppers hit and came down straight. There's 3 TV and then there's 15 and Fox 10 was just behind them. we thought it'd be all three of them (crashing)." A third person, Dave Addison, speaking to KPHO-TV (Channel 5), the local CBS affiliate, "They both banged ito each other and broke into pieces." It's believed there were as many as five people aboard the two copters. News anchors reporting on the crash on KTVK appeared emotionally shaken."It is very much a brotherhood, like firefighters,'' Scott Clifton, CBS 5 helicopter pilot, said of the Valley news pilots.
Helicopters crash while covering police pursuit
Four killed after aircraft collide in midair, fall into park in Phoenix
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19999896/
TV viewers did not actually witness the accident because cameras aboard both aircraft were pointed at the ground. But they saw images from one of the helicopters break up and begin to spin before the station abruptly switched to the studio. [with video of actual debris unlike the missing debris on 9/11/2001]
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And that my friends is how to identify a moronically obvious disinfo agent.
For those who say this could never happen OR it's so far away it won't take place for 200 years. You better read up fast on the orders that have already been put in place NOW. Tell me again we have 200 years, I say bullshit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...h?
v=Jl1VIhdpl4c
You flipping morons !
Hmmmm | 07.27.07 - 5:15 pm |
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black -- takesa one to know one // Wanna guess what that makes you --
Impeach or Remove Cheney Now
The turn toward war against Iran, coming from the "usual suspects" in Washington, must be assessed against the backdrop of the July 1-2 Kennebunkport, Maine summit meeting between President George W. Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The two days of discussion, hosted by former President George H.W. Bush, represented a potential strategic breakthrough in U.S.-Russian relations. President Putin proposed a long-term strategic partnership between Washington and Moscow, encompassing all of Eurasia in a security alliance, built upon Lyndon LaRouche's original strategic defense proposal, which later became President Reagan's SDI. Just days before Kennebunkport, former President Bill Clinton, in a speech in Yalta, Ukraine, had also signed on to the proposal, indicating a powerful intervention by the institution of the U.S. Presidency—along with that of the Russian Presidency—to avoid war in Eurasia for decades to come.
It was in response to that initiative that Cheney made his move, and set the United States potentially back on a course towards near-term war, a war that would soon spread from Southwest Asia to other parts of Eurasia, and ultimately lead into World War IV—pitting the United States against Russia and China.
(bears repetition)
Here's a little something that was in my local military retiree bulletin that came in the mail today. Looks like they are closing all avenaues in this regard:
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ID CARD REQUIREMENTS
-- In compliance with Homeland Security Presidential Directive 12 (HSPD-2), the DoD ID card sysem has been updated to implement new requirements. The establishment of this system will enhance security of federally controlled facilities and computer systems, ensuring a safer working environment. It will also increase efficiency, reduce identity fraud, and protect personal property.
-- In order to renew or obtain a new ID card, eligible ID cardholders must present two forms of identification (one from the primary list and one from the secondary list, or two from the primary list) as follows:
PRIMARY --
US Military ID Card
Military Dependent ID Card
Drivers License or ID card issued by a state or outlying possession of the US provided it contains a photograph.
ID card issued by federal, state, or local government agencies or entities provided it contains a photograph.
US passport
US Coast Guard, Merchant Martine
Card Permanent Resident Card or Alien Registration Receipt Card with Photograph (INS Form 1-151 or 1-551)
Temporary Resident Card (INS Form 1-68
Employment Authorization Document issued by the INS which contains a photograph (INS Form 1-688B)
SECONDARY --
Certificate of US Citizenship (INS Form N-560 or N-561)
Certificatge of Naturalization (INS Form N-550 or N-570)
Foreign Passport
Reentry Permits (INS Form 1-327)
Refugee Travel Document (INS Form 1-571)
School ID with a photograph
Votor's Registration Card
Native American Tribal documents
Driver's license issued by a
Canadian government authority
US Social Security card issued by the Social Security Administration
Certification of Birth abnroad issued by the Department of State (Form FS-545 or Form DS-1350)
Original of certified copy of a birth certificate issued by a state, country, municipal authority or outlying possession of the US bearing an official seal.
US Citizen ID Card (INS Form 1-197)
ID Card for use of Resident Citizen in the US (INS Form 1-179)
Employment authorization docuyment issued by the INS.
Persons under the age of 18 who are unable to present a document listed above may use school record/report card, Clinic, doctor or hospital record; Daycare/nursery school record.
The Guns of August 2007:
Cheney's Finger Is Already on the Trigger
by Jeffrey Steinberg
On July 16, the London Guardian reported that President Bush, under the powerful influence of Vice President Dick Cheney, has tilted in favor of military action against Iran before he leaves office. According to the Guardian account, a series of meetings during June and July, involving top White House, Pentagon, and State Department officials, was used by the Vice President to assert that the diplomatic track, ostensibly pressed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates, had failed to produce any results, and that no future U.S. administration would have the courage to act militarily against Tehran. President Bush, according to the account, went along with Cheney, and once again, the prospects for a new Persian Gulf preemptive war loom large over Washington.
Highly informed sources contacted by EIR confirmed and elaborated on the Guardian leak, which came from circles close to the White House who are adamantly opposed to the prospects of an American or Israeli preventive strike against targets inside Iran. EIR's sources confirmed that President Bush had, indeed, tilted back towards supporting Cheney's position that Iran's alleged nuclear weapons sites must be hit preemptively, and that one of the most persuasive arguments mounted by Cheney and his neo-con allies, is that unless the U.S. strikes against Tehran, Israel will launch an attack, and this will create an even bigger mess for Washington.
Speaking for some of Cheney's London patrons, Patrick Cronin, director of studies at London's International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), a leading Anglo-American think tank, is quoted by the Guardian: "Cheney has limited capital left, but if he wanted to use all his capital on this one issue, he could still have an impact.... The red line is not in Iran. The red line is in Israel. If Israel is adamant it will attack; the US will have to take decisive action. The choices are: tell Israel no, let Israel do the job, or do the job yourself."
In fact, the consensus among American military strategists is that Israel does not have the capacity to do serious damage to Iran's now widely dispersed nuclear research program—unless it were to use nuclear weapons.
The Two Liebermans
As Cheney was making his power play inside Administration circles, he was receiving back-up from "the two Liebermans." In early July, Israel's Minister of Strategic Affairs, Avigdor Lieberman, traveled to Brussels to confer with top NATO officials, and on his return, he told Israeli Army Radio that he had won backing from the United States and Europe for preemptive strikes against Iran's nuclear sites. Lieberman, who is known among Israeli analysts as "Israel's closest thing to a National Socialist," elaborated that, if Israel were to launch air attacks against Iran's nuclear sites, NATO would join in to defend Israel in the event of Iranian retaliation. Lieberman could not have been more blunt: "We're stuck in Afghanistan, and European and American troops are wallowing in the Iraqi quagmire, which is something that is going to prevent the leaders of countries in Europe and America from deciding on the use of force to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities. Therefore," he concluded, "at the end of the day, Israel is going to have to remove the nuclear threat posed by Iran with the means at its disposal, and it won't be able to count on international cooperation." But, the Israeli minister then declared, "Europe and the U.S. will support us."
The very day that Avigdor Lieberman was threatening Israeli preemptive strikes on Iran, July 11, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) introduced an amendment to the defense spending bill, demanding that U.S. intelligence agencies report to Congress every 60 days on Iran's activities inside Iraq. Although Lieberman's amendment, which contained a string of dubious or outright false claims of Iranian combat support operations against American forces in Iraq, was clearly aimed at putting the Senate on record as supporting a warlike policy against Iran, the entire Senate sheepishly voted, 97-0, in favor of the Lieberman ploy.
Lest there be any doubt that Joe Lieberman's actions were tightly coordinated with Cheney, the text of the Lieberman amendment quoted extensively from Gen. Kevin Bergner, the former top military aide to neo-con Elliott Abrams at the National Security Council, who was dispatched to Baghdad in June 2007, to conduct White House "spin control" over the war reporting. Bergner has put out a steady stream of disinformation and/or exaggerated claims of Iranian involvement in the Iraqi insurgency. Bergner's propaganda from Baghdad, according to Pentagon sources, has infuriated the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who see it as a replay of the "stovepipe" of fake intelligence, funneled from the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans to the Vice President's office, in the run-up to the Iraq invasion. This time, there is no pretense that the war propaganda is being vetted by the Pentagon intelligence services. It is being funneled directly from Baghdad via General Bergner, directly to Cheney, Lieberman, et al., and is increasingly showing up on CNN and other news outlets.
Impeach or Remove Cheney Now
The turn toward war against Iran, coming from the "usual suspects" in Washington, must be assessed against the backdrop of the July 1-2 Kennebunkport, Maine summit meeting between President George W. Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The two days of discussion, hosted by former President George H.W. Bush, represented a potential strategic breakthrough in U.S.-Russian relations. President Putin proposed a long-term strategic partnership between Washington and Moscow, encompassing all of Eurasia in a security alliance, built upon Lyndon LaRouche's original strategic defense proposal, which later became President Reagan's SDI. Just days before Kennebunkport, former President Bill Clinton, in a speech in Yalta, Ukraine, had also signed on to the proposal, indicating a powerful intervention by the institution of the U.S. Presidency—along with that of the Russian Presidency—to avoid war in Eurasia for decades to come.
It was in response to that initiative that Cheney made his move, and set the United States potentially back on a course towards near-term war, a war that would soon spread from Southwest Asia to other parts of Eurasia, and ultimately lead into World War IV—pitting the United States against Russia and China.
It is for this reason that LaRouche, in a dialogue in Washington with a group of diplomats on July 19 (see transcript, this issue), asserted that the only way to avoid war at this late date, is for Dick Cheney to be either impeached or removed from office now—before the guns of August are fired.
It was also in this context that LaRouche reiterated his message to Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.), the ostensible Democratic Party front-runner for the Presidential nomination. LaRouche called upon Clinton to take the lead in the fight to remove Cheney from office, promising that if she does so, she will be "virtually acclaimed" as the next President, by an American electorate that is overwhelmingly demanding Cheney's ouster.
LaRouche's message is also resonating among leading Republican circles, who fear a total wipeout in the 2008 general elections, if Cheney remains long on the job—and if the preemptive strikes against Iran take place. While some Republican Party voices, including former Reagan Justice Deparment official Bruce Fein, former Presidential candidate Patrick Buchanan, and retired CIA officer and American Conservative columnist Phil Giraldi, all have demanded Cheney's immediate ouster to stop an Iran fiasco, GOP leaders have so far failed to come forward to confront President Bush and force Cheney's ouster. And Congressional Democrats have chosen to dodge the Cheney bullet and opt for impotent gestures, like the all-night Senate debate over Bush Administration Iraq policy, in which Cheney's name was not mentioned once. The ultimate cowardly act was the Democratic Senate capitulation to the "Buckleyite Damn-ocrat" Joe Lieberman's Iran war gambit. Such cowardice and opportunism, LaRouche has frequently warned, could bring about the doom of the American republic and a global "permanent war" that would engulf the planet for several generations to come.
Cheney and Bandar
While General Bergner's "wurlitzer" continues to churn out war propaganda from Baghdad, pushing the idea of military action against Iran to "save the lives of American GIs" fighting the "Iranian-backed" insurgency in Iraq, U.S. intelligence specialists have alerted EIR that there is growing worry about another aspect of the Iraq insurgency. Saudi Arabia, through Prince Bandar bin Sultan, Cheney's chief ally and the purported national security advisor to King Abdullah, has been pouring money and weapons into Sunni tribes in western Iraq, who have now emerged as what some U.S. intelligence officials brand "al-Qaeda II." These Iraqi Wahabi networks, distinct from the bin Laden/Zawaheri "al-Qaeda in Iraq" apparatus of largely foreign fighters, have emerged in recent months as a significant element within the overall insurgency. According to these sources, "al-Qaeda II" is part of Cheney's scheme—designed in London by the likes of Dr. Bernard Lewis—to promote a permanent Sunni versus Shi'ite conflict in the region.
This Cheney-Bandar effort, the sources warn, is one of the driving factors, provoking Iran, and fueling the prospects of a near-term explosion. Earlier in July 2007, an emissary of Prince Bandar delivered $750,000 to the Mujahideen-e Khalq (MEK), an Iranian exile group that formerly worked for Saddam Hussein, and which is on the U.S. State Department's international terrorist organizations (ITO) list, fo
It's all such a tragedy! I remember "BDB" (before Daddy Bush) when we didn't have to bear the shame and guilt perpretated upon us by our leaders for their pre-emptive wars (because back then we were still considered good people, and the world didn't hate us like they do now).
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 4:19 pm | #
Hi Marj. You mentioned in your post about your feelings Bush was calculating warplans.
Kind of strange, but when I saw the television and the footage of the collapse, and the Pentagon scene, I told the group I work with, he did it, the SOB did it, the guys I worked with asked me what I was talking about, and i told them that this was a internal demoltion job and their had to be Gov. involvment. I mentioned BUSH as the puppet master, and told them here we go, were in for it now, the stage has been set.
Can't say they went along with me , but thats the truth. Its almost as if that day I saw America die, to add, the day JFK was murdered, i felt as though a mortal wound was implanted in the chest of America. The criminals took over that day. I got this thing, ya know, the day JFK was assasinated America was mortaly wounded, on 911 America as we know it died.
Ive been traveling a lot druing my past 30 years, about 20% of the people I have met know that Americans are roboticaly patriotic but not behind the plot altogether,decent folk for the most part being used is what I'm attemtping to say. The remaining 80% consider us warmongering, bully on the block, murdering, conciencless, egotistical flag waving morons, and would love to see America on its Knees.
They know 4 million civilians died in Vietnnam, and 800,000 died in Iraq, familes that is, innocents.
The world is not blind to our atrocitys, in south america many said to me, how could your goverment kill so many of its own people. Then deceive them telling them WMDS are in Iraq and invade. Are they that patrioticly controlled, brainwahed, they will beleive anything. Marj. the world knows and they are afraid of us, but they would want revenge given the opportunity.
***Redemption on a global scale would be to hang the traitors in public, all of them, each and every one who betrayed this nation for profit.
..This regime is and its cronys are making fortunes, just as they did in Vietnam. But their plans are the takeover of this land and its citizens.
2 Helicopters crash in Phoenix about 2 hours ago. Nothing left of the helicopters that fell from several hundred feet. Hmmmm, just like the plane that hit the Pentagon. Hmmmm Alex, what kind of Bullshit can you make up about this one?
You flipping morons !
Staged or not too staged, that is the question.
What we are witnessing is the neo-con birth pangs of their new order, "new Middle East," new everything in an old face. Even the media won't mention the secret jewish cabal that controls not only the American people and huge security systems, but has transformed most governments that still appear to be free on the surface and yet maintain a dilute leadership to further blur intensive information pockets.
{"Although it may take several decades for the process of transformation to unfold, in time, the art of warfare on air, land, and sea will be vastly different than it is today, and 'comabt' likely will take place in new dimensions:in space, 'cyber-space,' and perhaps the world of microbes."}
-Project for a New American Century / Sept. 2000
As Dick wrote, space itself will become "a theater of war", and not just the blood pools we see America leaving behind in your vigorous experimentations of "theater wars" abroad. Iraq was to be the Neo-Cons main "main two-stage process of "transition", and because they must never see the light of day, the media still keeps the neo-cons and it's plans out of the limelight.
But you have failed. The worm has turned in Iraq , and even without much discussion of the stategic effects on U.S. allies and America's ZERO credibility, only a few of the mostly bought and paid-for and mainly [blackmailed] nations will stick by your side for the New final solution.
But really, hold your horses here. 9/11, just to clear things, was not staged. No way in hell would the government do so. Its too far fetched...
HaHaHa... bit slow this guy, but maybe he'll get there and hopefully in time.
Dear Shit:
What a way to start a reply -- your correspondent, Adam, seems partially awake but still snoring a bit loudly // that snore (9/11 denial) tells me they are not yet quite there.
Saying this (quote):
But really, hold your horses here. 9/11, just to clear things, was not staged. No way in hell would the government do so. Its too far fetched. Actually, the globalists are EXPLOITING 9/11 to their biggest advantage. You forget that alot of people are brainwashed on the coast to vote for such pricks such as Hillary (the media is now downplaying the war trying to get a democrat elected).
They went on a bit longer but it truly didn't matter beyond the start of that paragraph (quote) above. I will admit that I was pretty much in agreement until such time as that presented itself.
Not staged, huh -- Explain then (please) the near TWO HOUR stand down of military jet fighters when they were (and are) routinely deployed in the event of a hijacked airplane. Nearly 2-hours elapsed w/o any support from the air or support from the ground (as in ground to air defense missile systems around the vicinity of the Pentagon) // staged? Afraid so, forum friend.
How about the abundance of documented evidence regarding advance knowledge by those folks who were (many still remain) in position to do something but chose not to. And how about the secret service allowing their charge (Mr. President) to remain seated in a wel- in-advance school house location where he was not only a potential target, but so were the 'unthinking' SS and those poor little children // those guys in charge KNEW they were in NO DANGER or they would have reacted much differently. Staged? You bet.
All that effort that went into rigging explosives in the three main buildings of the WTC (with WTC7 being a perfectly without a shadow of a doubt controlled demolition, even if the two towers remain in doubt) -- (which they don't) -- something caught on video and has the interest of science on many levels who are convinced that the same was accomplished by explosive devices and not so much fire and airplane crashes. Even common sense (seeing those videos and coming to an awareness of free fall speeds and so very many things directly linked to the WTC) indicates this to have been a staged event. Without a doubt.
All those ommissions and distortions in the official story as given us by the biased 9/11 Commission -- supporting a staged event. An example is the blatant omission of testimony from (then) Secretary of Transportation Norman Minetta which clearly implements Cheney in the stand down. Staged? Manipulated? Better believe it.
Knock off the snoring -- Your disturbing others around you. Not changing minds (not losing what little common sense remains) just because you 'feel' we are being tricked // well, yes we are, but not in the way you feel/think. We've been tricked (that's the official version of events) and we've been flat out lied to (as in WMD) in getting the people excited to war -- but that's all part of the show, all part of the proof of the events being staged. WAKE THE 'F' UP.
etc., etc.
This Adam guy is totally BRAIN DEAD. 911 was not staged? Dude. Put down the college books, turn off the boob tube, and google video up some "Loose Change" and some shit. Your totally self deceived. You will probably tell yourself, when they make everyone put a biometric tattoo in their RIGHT HAND, "Oh, it's not the mark of the Beast, that is 200 years away........."
People like you, are a waste of a life preserver.
Hi Marjorie.
Been liking your posts, but i have a question for you, did Bushy actualy say that publicaly, about taking propertys. If he porclaimed that, it will mean REvolution if his band of mercenaries attempts to do this.
I think he stuck his foot in his mouth, as a matter of fact i think he never took his foot out. They invaded a soveriegn foriegn NAtion in their hunt for WMDS, there were none, however they killed 800,0000 civilians, families, infants,children, mothers and fathers, plus our own troops.
They getting away with murder, it is in fact HUMAN SACRIFICE, FOR PROFIT.
chris jones | 07.27.07 - 12:54 pm | #
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You're right! (by now you probably have seen Sane's post about the possible consequences of protesting this war).
Even before Bush was "made" president in 2000 (notice I did not say "became"), I knew (by looking at his face and hearing his voice) that he would get us into an unjust war for exploitation and profit. I tried to warn people as best I could.
I remember a couple of years later when I was in WalMart and Bush announced over the loudspeaker that he was planning (at the cost of our soldier's and coutry's demise) an immediate attack on Iraq because he had "intelligence" that they were hiding chemical weapons of war. But the real fact was that our country and world leaders were planning this attack because Iraq would not let the UN into their country for inspections and because they (the elitists) wanted to take these countries over and exploit their resources (which they have surely done).
It was amazing to me how our country fell for "our president's line" and went for it (because it all made me sick and I had to leave the store.)
Now some 4+ years later (since March 24, 2003), we have lost many soldiers and are carrying the heavy burden of being responsible for the deaths and torture of thousands and thousands of innocent civilians; and we have made the Iraqis far worse off than they were before we invaded them. We also trashed Kosovo.
It's all such a tragedy! I remember "BDB" (before Daddy Bush) when we didn't have to bear the shame and guilt perpretated upon us by our leaders for their pre-emptive wars (because back then we were still considered good people, and the world didn't hate us like they do now).
"But we won't live to see it?" HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another fool full of wishful thinking! Try 2013, if we even make it that far. Don't cling to hard to your fantasies of retirement, and definately don't take you "day job" to seriously.
Sorry, I forgot to add to #1 NATIONAL SECURITY. def: A blanket excuse to operate in total secrecy, and disregard the Constitution.
This is a comment from another board I'm chatting with. I thought you might like to read his opinions:
I think youve hit the nail on this one…well, half of the nail. The first half of your article I think is great, while the second kind of goes out there and is way too extreme. I dont know too much about this stuff to blog about it, you did your homework and I congratulate you on that, but I do know ebough to give you a good reply.
There ARE indeed Globalists out there. The UN is a tool that the globalists exploit. And yes, the Globalists are setting up the North American Union. It is so true - you hit it right on the nail. I have always stressed that this nation is a SOVEIRGEN nation, meaning that it is independant of the control of other nations or organizations, yet we see the UN and the globalists continue to squeeze us into their tight grip.
If we dont know this or not, I’m going to say this outright: The globalists ULTIMATE goal is for One single world government under complete control of a select individuals, even one single dictator.
This is what it comes down to…the whole thing of “tolerance” how we should love everyone and give up our rights for a bunch of sneaking illegal immigrants that come into America. That American men have been demasculinized, (yes, Ive said it) to the point where even some of the women ask “where are the men in our soeciety?” Seriously, you and I both know that the war was fought with one hand behind our backs, and that Iraq could have been won much more quickly without casualties if Bush used the full extent of our military. (calling Iraqi terrorists “insurgents” …wow) This is the breaking point of all the shit that has happened to cut open the soft underbelly of America of Political Correctedness. To allow America to be “assimilated” into the New World Order, otherwise known as a Single World government.
But really, hold your horses here. 9/11, just to clear things, was not staged. No way in hell would the government do so. Its too far fetched. Actually, the globalists are EXPLOITING 9/11 to their biggest advantage. You forget that alot of people are brainwashed on the coast to vote for such pricks such as Hillary (the media is now downplaying the war trying to get a democrat elected). Remember, we have the heartland, the middle of the nation that is conservative in its values and will fight ot the death to keep America alive. No, calm down…one day we’re not going to wake up and we’ll be under martial law with Bush as Dictator (hah!). Bush is the last person for me to see as a dictator. People hate him so much that they want us to believe that…but let me tell you something.
We’re not going to see any real radical things that is going to happen within the next 200 years or so. This is slowly going to build up. The globalists arent anywhere near complete victory, but I can almost safely say that this is probably going to happen. But we wont live to see it. Yeah, my post sounds grim, and its definitly grim, but if the media doesnt cover this really horrifying news of Presidential Directive 51, (Btw, im not a big fan of Star Wars, but ironically the same directive happens in there giving Palpatine the power to become Emperor) then something isnt right.
Your post is a bit radical especially in the last paragraph, but the first part of it is definitly accurate. I can safely say there are globalists plotting for world domination, but they arent as nearly close as you think they are.
- Adam
Calm down everyone. Dying is temporary.
Good Spunjo.
Here is some of our Governments bullshit, "Greatest Hits"
#1 NATIONAL SECURITY. def: A blanket excuse to disregard the Constitution.
#2 HOMELAND SECURITY. def: A ruse to disguise acts of government sponsored terror, and amendment violations.
#3 PATRIOT ACT. def: Orwellian domestic surveliance under the new fascist police state.
#4 FREEDOM CAMPS. def: Camps where Christians and Constitutional patriots will be un Constitutionally taken to, raped, tortured, and murdered.
#5 NEW WORLD ORDER. def: A totalitarian mass enslavement and delusion of the whole planet under Lucifer himself, and the anti-Christ.
Hungry wolves dont care about the truth only there next meal.
Spunjo | 07.27.07 - 3:54 pm | #
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Some good stuff here. Survival of the fit. Don't forget to exercise if only to walk often. The Chinese at the turn of the Century (1900s) kept their martial art survival skills a personal family secret, pretty much so, practicing at night, practicing when alone, practicing when others eyes were elsewhere // just in case self-defense should became an issue. And as I understand it (reading) sometimes it was. Taichiquan, one such example. Morphed into a Yang style exercise for the elderly but still has its roots in 'secret practice' techniques. Might I recommend the same to everyone // you can't always have that rifle and or that pistol at your disposal BUT there are still many things that are common that can be made into a weapon; one that does not bring attention to itself but still could serve nicely in the event. Some things are obvious, I would avoid those -- but your hands and your feet and your elbows and your life are your own. A sharp and/or a blunt object could also come in quite handy if the occasion ever comes up. Be prepared in that fashion also -- Your life could depend upon it no matter how much food or water is available.
spunjo...
did you say....
MONSANTO???????????
http://mindprod.com/politics/asb...s/
asbestos.html
You may like the above link
THINK our way out of this hideous mess.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.27.07 - 3:53 pm | #
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Now that was below the belt.
I couldn't think my way out of a paper bag....
but I would probably assess all paper bag manufacturers within a 10,000 mile radius and do enough recon and ops for data c ollection carfully studying the various methods of paper bag manufacturing, distribution, and final destination before ensuring that no one ever gets trapped in one again.
Don't you think that may be the way I like to do things GAK???
In the end many people can pull a trigger...I just like to know what I am hiting.
Actually the "sir shit" is a "Madame-Shit" That's right, I'm a chick pissed as hell about my future as I WANT IT, is being cut short. Hey, LoL, you guys are funny. Thank you for the laugh today, I really needed that. Seems I rarely laugh or smile anymore but rather rub my head and rest it in my little hands
You guys are funny though, LoL. Hang in there darlin's
See -- that's what I'm talking about // good graphic image ZAP, blue light, I liked that. I agree things look bleak but it's not over until it's ovr and it ain't over yet. Not yet. Always hope. No one in their right mind would want (or allow if they could prevent it) a NWO where we the People are nothing more than sheep. Like you said -- we're men and should die like men (not worms, but men) if the time should present itself so. And yes there is biblical tone in the Last Days and maybe that time is now.
Soul-u-shines
0. Don't freak out! This is a mental and spiritual battle at this point the lymbic system isnt gonna help ya while your at a cpu.
1. Realize u dont want this and ask at what cost?
2. Ask yourself what can i do to make a difference.
3.Spread the truth and dont be afraid about the consequences. (How many germans didnt even know what nazi's were doing?)
4. Find others who value the truth, and disscuss #2 or any #
5. Turn away from dependency on the system. ex study survival mags etc youll be suprised what u can eat!
6. Quit work when you have enough people who care about truth or work as little as possable. They own just about every corperation in the US in one form or another or supply them etc. At least in my research. They even own the money u use..
7. Accept responsibility for maintaining all that you own (this is where others come in and u can swap work etc.) if u plan on staying in one location.
8. Take all info with a grain of salt unless it resonates with you.(including this)
9.Find peacful resoulutions with athority if u are staying in one place or else go nomadic (you are not your house, car etc). If you want to defend your own fort by all means do it but it takes many people to do it.
10. Plant secret gardens or even not secret ones or get a farmer into your group.
11. Most importantly Stoping doing what makes you unhappy in life and let the rest fall to the ground and do as much good as u can.
They can only control you if your complicit and with out you supporting there jobs they fall. Theres more free people in the US than u think but ask yourself how can you be free if your not even free from there control. Sad when a bum is more free than the average US worker. Let go... like a child letting go of his handlebars for the first time and see where it takes you.
Finding others
0. Dont be quiet about it!
1. Mail others in your local neighboorhood cd/dvd's with alex jones,david icke, m. tsarion, freeman, j. maxwell, etc. info on it.
2. Later approach these people and talk and say I mailed you that what do you think?!
3. Find those with your views and go from there.
4. If your bold, put a tv in your front yard with alex jones on it and a table with a sign and a notepad labeled discuss and comments etc.
Food.
0.eat to live, dont live to eat!
1. attain knowledge! this device your useing has a tone of it. (did you know you can eat dandilions)
2. eat simpily or what you can catch or find.
3. keep an eye on monsanto... and others of its kind.
4. you can make a good distiller for less than $40.
if you research. bye bye flouride. or even out of scraps. Boiled water creates steam right? go from there.
Hope this helps if it doesn't well then just disregard it. It helps me live day to day and know im makeing a difference.
As far as the article its sad but you cant go into a den of hungry wolves (well rehersed at that) and expect the truth to make a difference. Hungry wolves dont care about the truth only there next meal.
The sugar coated version is, "were doomed". Even prophecy confirms our soon to come tribulations.
Me and Sane see things basically the same way. However I am sure he is still trying to THINK our way out of this hideous mess. I wish to God he could. I would gladly tag along. I can't even believe how bad things really are.
And still many fools of the brainwashed decadent and apathetic American people are drawn to the mainstream lies like flies to a blue light........... ZAP!!!!!!!!
To chime in here if but only for a moment --
GAK I believe SANE is paying you a compliment for making sure he remains awake. The barking dog, the radio playing loud in the car at night on that long drive home, the Paul Revere announcing to the world 'get your shit together, he they come -- "
Something (someone) like that is good to have around. I also gave you an earlier comment knowing which side of the argument you are on, glad you're on our side and not theirs -- as you will surely recall me saying.
I still feel that way. But boy do you at time get graphic in your patriotic beliefs. Not saying it's a bad thing, just trying to say -- you sure have a way of expressing yourself. I'm laughing at that, hope you are too.
I want to avoid violence as much as all of you. But considering the alternatives, I don't see any more attractive options.
Shit may have low self esteem, or perhaps the moniker is just a humorous jibe. Perhaps I will post some comments under "Fuck". Or "Sir Fuck".
The pen is mightier than the sword, until the barrel is pointed at you. Much can be achieved by literature, education, and discussion. However I fear I can already hear the fat lady singing.........
every day your words make more sense you fucking asshole who does not let me live in a world of deceit!
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 3:37 pm | #
I suppose your compassion toward fellow human beings might run deeper that wanting to be liked by them.
If the men of this country are not willing to take the advice of the founding fathers, and fight like hell to defend our freedom against martial law, then those men deserve to be made the bitches of the New World Order. It is our patriotic duty to defend America against treason. Or shall you just allow Longshanks to declare prima noctae?
Remember, once you surrender yourselves to them, you can not turn back. THEY WILL OWN YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES, AND YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO "CHANGE YOUR MIND" SHOULD THINGS GET "UNCOMFORTABLE".
Never thought I would say these words in order, but...
thank you too Shit.
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 3:33 pm |
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I think maybe that should be Sir Shit (you know, to be polite where polite is due) // That guy sure has his 'shit' together and deserves a Sir (or maybe a Mister) Shit as a complete title. He's earned it.
I will mercilessly kill anyone in Law enforcement either Federal or State who tries to impose "Martial Law" upon me. In fact, I am actually getting fed the fuck up with the way things are right now! Feels like a police state to me. Stand like men, or die like worms.
Gabriel Alan King | 07.27.07 - 3:25 pm | #
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You know GAK I think I hate you the same way people might hate me.
every day your words make more sense you fucking asshole who does not let me live in a world of deceit!
THANK YOU KINDLY for putting that together!!
Shit | 07.27.07 - 3:07 pm | #
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Never thought I would say these words in order, but...
thank you too Shit.
Stand like men, or die like worms
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No GAK -- I think you mean STAND LIKE MEN or DIE LIKE MEN // It all has the same final hard cold result about it.
Especially in the face of over whelming odds. Stand if you like, or sit down, the end is the end. Period. Worm or otherwise.
I know NOT what you mean (??) -- is that supposed to be an insult dear forum friend?
On coffee cup number 10 about right now.
jbrid1138 | 07.27.07 - 3:20 pm | #
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Not at all-I need to be reminded how much I close my mouth as well, there is so much more we could be saying to so many more people.
Damn SANE you must have hit on something truly important for me to consider it necessary to repeat -- well it is that //
A chance for survival:
jbrid1138
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How to stop the transportation of 250 million American citizens into concentration camps:
1] Alert the first people to go...most likelythe ones that form the most resistance to the NWO plan. In Germany it was the communists who were first executed [even before camps]. Here it may be anyone apposed to Bush/Clinton..
2] Alert the second group
In germany it was the jews-the scapegoats. Here it may be muslims, immigrants, or if 911 truth gets too widely accepted, blaming the jews might again be the tried and true scapegoat
3] alert the third group
in germany it was the less productive members of society..the handicapped, the elderly, the indigent, the mentally ill, the homosexuals, the fat, the skinny, the unhealthy [AIDS, diabetes, cancer, hepatitis, STD's-why do you think there is a record of this shit?]
4] alert the forth group...
in germany the ones who started opposing the insanity were taken away to either kill themselves, be killed, or re-educated [not as much as in china]
here it will be the fringe moderates...all of our friends and family that say "if there was really a threat to the citizens I would do something, but you have not proven that our gov is that corrupt." This group will include hundreds of thousands of government workers that try to alert the public as well.
5] alert the fifth group
in nazi germany this was the cannon fodder no longer needed because the battle was lost. here it will be the same no matter what the outcome. there will be millions who support the effort only to find out that they are not on the final list of acceptable NWO humans. Many of these people will be the ones who most helped the effort just like in germany. romuls comes to mind. all the police and the politicians and the media agents will be seen now as having too much power and will need to be destroyed. we need to alert these people ASAP as the main form of warfare for illuminati is double cross. these horses in george orwell's animal farm need our utmost compassion and attention for they [once released from the bonds of mind control] will guarantee that REX84 will be on GW's gravestone and not on ours.
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 3:24 pm |
In my not so humble opinion, "laying low" will only get you biochipped, bitch raped, executed, or indocrinated into the "Civilian inmate labor programs".
Or do you think Satan and his minions will be nice to you? Give you a doggie bisquit? Here is your bisquit. They will take your children from you and give them over to Satanists to rape, sodomize, degredate, and re mold into a New World Order zombie.
I will mercilessly kill anyone in Law enforcement either Federal or State who tries to impose "Martial Law" upon me. In fact, I am actually getting fed the fuck up with the way things are right now! Feels like a police state to me. Stand like men, or die like worms.
How to stop the transportation of 250 million American citizens into concentration camps:
1] Alert the first people to go...most likelythe ones that form the most resistance to the NWO plan. In Germany it was the communists who were first executed [even before camps]. Here it may be anyone apposed to Bush/Clinton..
2] Alert the second group
In germany it was the jews-the scapegoats. Here it may be muslims, immigrants, or if 911 truth gets too widely accepted, blaming the jews might again be the tried and true scapegoat
3] alert the third group
in germany it was the less productive members of society..the handicapped, the elderly, the indigent, the mentally ill, the homosexuals, the fat, the skinny, the unhealthy [AIDS, diabetes, cancer, hepatitis, STD's-why do you think there is a record of this shit?]
4] alert the forth group...
in germany the ones who started opposing the insanity were taken away to either kill themselves, be killed, or re-educated [not as much as in china]
here it will be the fringe moderates...all of our friends and family that say "if there was really a threat to the citizens I would do something, but you have not proven that our gov is that corrupt." This group will include hundreds of thousands of government workers that try to alert the public as well.
5] alert the fifth group
in nazi germany this was the cannon fodder no longer needed because the battle was lost. here it will be the same no matter what the outcome. there will be millions who support the effort only to find out that they are not on the final list of acceptable NWO humans. Many of these people will be the ones who most helped the effort just like in germany. romuls comes to mind. all the police and the politicians and the media agents will be seen now as having too much power and will need to be destroyed. we need to alert these people ASAP as the main form of warfare for illuminati is double cross. these horses in george orwell's animal farm need our utmost compassion and attention for they [once released from the bonds of mind control] will guarantee that REX84 will be on GW's gravestone and not on ours.
jbird---that is what you do.
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 3:09 pm |
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I know NOT what you mean (??) -- is that supposed to be an insult dear forum friend?
On coffee cup number 10 about right now.
SANE
FANTASTIC JOB FOR THE LINKS.
Fantastic job.......you covered so much ground. I'm going to send this to every single last person I know.
THANK YOU KINDLY for putting that together!!
Shit | 07.27.07 - 3:07 pm | #
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jbird---that is what you do.
SANE
FANTASTIC JOB FOR THE LINKS.
Fantastic job.......you covered so much ground. I'm going to send this to every single last person I know.
THANK YOU KINDLY for putting that together!!
Perfectly said!
Thank you all for those who are waking to this horrific truth and spreading the word.
Thank you!!
Most fight me on this, and I'm NO coward, in my humble opinion, what is done IS DONE. The plan for the NWO has been worked on for well over 60 years. They had to make sure "all their ducks were in a row" before taking the "final" step. Knowing what I/we do about just how much total control they have, the best thing I could think of is that WHEN this happens, VERY SOON, lay low. If you don't want to be carted off right away, lay low, supress your anger and fear and just act like your numb so as to not draw attention to yourself.
So many want to debate me about this but I'm just stating the truth. Our guns or weapons will be useless. Either they will remove them from us or if we attempt to use them you'll either be shot dead OR they will taser you with 50,000 volts of electricity so you are unable to move and they can cuff you.
We can't really hide because we all know the military has the techno to read body heat, see through walls with such devices, flying remote control drones in the sky to watch who ever is moving and so on. Some seem to think that they can outrun, out-drive, our-smart the thousands of gadgets the military has to track us down. Not to mention, under martial law, everything we own is no longer ours. All power, for everything, water, electricity, gas, our cars........all useless and turned off. We truly will be under house arrest until we are herded into the trains, buses or airplanes.
I can appreciate so many Americans who do not want to talk about the very soon future of us all and instead talk about the elections which will never happen, the wrong doing of the gov which we all already know and debate among each other about such things. I don't blame them BUT it's all useless conversation because what's done is done. All of the 10 worldly leaders met at the G8 summit to NOT talk of peace but rather the "final step" with the take over.
We aren't the only country who will be captured, the Brits, Europeans, Austrailians and so forth. This is what it's meant be the new world order, the one world government. I'm just very sad that Americans should be preparing themselves mentally for what's around the corner but instead they avoid the subject and talk about other "bad" happenings with the gov. WE ALL KNOW. This is exactly why bush has sent so many of our American military over-seas, because when martial law takes affect, Americans would have a hard time shooting their own kind. BUT Russians and Germans would delight in such pleasure.
This is just so damn big and frustrating as hell because WE TRULY WANT TO DO SOMETHING to stop this from happening. However, it's done and we ARE living on borrowed time, honestly.
I wish I could be of more help :-(
Okay the fear part has kicked in (FEMA // Camps // Torture // No Joke)
But now tell us what it is YOU FOLKS want anybody to do about it. Waiting patiently for an answer to same.
I remain --
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There are a lot of people posting comments here eluding to "Martial Law" and "FEMA death camps". Well, it's totally true. And America has been training foreign troops on American soil for martial law takeover since the 80's!
Doubt it? Look at executive orders#10995-12919
Over 10,000 rail cars pre outfitted with guillotines were shipped in from Japan in the 90's.
Also Gunderson steel of Oregon contracted to make over 100,000 rail cars each outfitted with 140 sets of shackles. There are currently over 800 ready for operation FEMA death camps in the US alone.
The Satanists of the United States will rape, torture, and brutally murder Christians and Constitutional patriots who are taken there. Satanism in the United States is protected and actually run by the NSA, CIA, and other such secret and twisted organizations.
When martial law comes down, you had better fight like you lives depend on it, cause they do.
Even if they shut down Alex Jones, I am done with this shit. Time to go Rambo.
I’m tired of backing down on this blog. I’m tired of being weary of what I post. I’m going to lay down truth whether you believe it or not. The reality is very clear and it is very harsh. The American government is corrupt. There are criminals running everything in America. There are child molesters in Child Protective Services. There are illegal immigrants fighting in our army. The CIA hauls tons of Cocaine and Heroin into the country everyday. Crop dusting jets are releasing Aerosol and leaving chemtrails in the air that we breathe.
The American people are under attack. They are being lied to everyday and trained to obey and bow down to a tyrannical world government. The globalists have an evil agenda that they plot every year at the annual Bilderberg group meeting (This year’s is in Turkey). The globalists are using America to police the world, program the public into sheep and force the economies of the world to collapse so that the globalists can institute their cashless credit system. This info can be found in major government documents and there is sufficient evidence to support this claim. America is dying and if we do not try to save it, there will be no more freedom. The globalists are covertly setting up the North American Union as we speak. They are keeping our borders open, building a Super Highway to connect Canada, US and Mexico. The globalists claim it is good for trade yet they allow illegals into the country, offer them Medicare, bank accounts and welfare. American citizens are the only people that are guaranteed those rights. Not illegals. The globalists continue to use the Federal Reserve System to print more money and devalue the dollar. The dollar is currently worth less than 4 cents. The globalists forced President Bush to sign off the Homeland Security Presidential Directive 51 that states that in the event of an emergency, the President has complete control of all the decisions and the military. It states that congress has no power in the event of such an emergency. The globalists got the funding for such a directive in the John Warner Defense Authorization act of 2006. In short, the President has announced he is a dictator and has complete control of the American government. Of course, as we know, the President is simply a puppet for the globalists– so, therefore, the globalists have complete control of our government.
All that is left for the globalists is to start World War III–which has been in their plans for quite some time. All they need to do is to stage another terror attack, similar to 9/11, whereby thousands of people are killed either in the US, Israel or Britain. The globalists can then use the media to blame it on Al-Queda and say that Iran was funding them. Such a catastrophe would force the American people to submit to complete war and martial law. If such an attack occurs, America will be officially dead. America will fall to Martial Law and into a complete dictatorship. If the New World Order stages a nuke attack–which the CFR said may happen in Cleveland or Los Angeles–the media will blame the attacks on Iranian funded terrorists groups and force the country into a dictatorship. In documents released by the CFR, a group directly linked to the globalists and the Bilderberg group, they talk about “security” measures that will have to be taken under such an attack. The “security” measures mentioned are nothing than total slavery.
Under Martial Law, the first amendment to the constitution (Freedom of Speech), will be totally gone. Americans will no longer be able to surf the internet or watch television. Such entertainment will be banned due to the fact that terrorists may infiltrate the public. We will no longer be able to communicate through E-mail because it will all be tracked. Any e-mail that has anything to do with Anti-government propaganda will be stopped and the writer will be taken away and put into a FEMA concentration camp. That’s right. Americans have no clue that such camps even exist! Right now they’re called FEMA Emergency Centers, however, they are nothing more than torture camps. Seriously, do a Google search on them. The government will strip children from their families and put them into Re-education camps where teachers brainwash them to love the New World Order. I know this stuff sounds fake but I really kid you not. This all exists. Your house will be filled with 8 to 10 families to keep people concentrated so that they won’t commit terror. Any person that is too religious or too patriotic will be sent away to the camps. America is becoming Nazi Germany very quickly. Everything will be controlled. If you need to leave your “community” you will need a permit. You won’t get food or gas unless you have the National ID Card and eventually, the RFID chip. The recent halted terrorist attacks, namely Fort Dix and JFK Airport, are ways to make the public think an attack is near. Eventually, the main nuke/biological attack will occur and the people will believe that Iran committed the crime. The final goal for the globalists is to model the entire world after modern China. The world will become one governmental power that is entirely controlled and monitored by an elite group of insiders. This is not what I want to live under.
Shit | 07.27.07 - 2:29 pm | #
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Hot Damn! That needed repeating. This guy has got his 'shit' together. Scary as hell but a damn good filter at work in explaining and breaking it down for easy consumption. Very well said.
Now tell us in just as precise language as you can -- What the 'F' do we do about it? Go into all the detail you like. Listening.
http://www.representativepress.org/
watch the video in the center of the screen when the page opens.
Here is some dialogue from a "911 truth porno movie"
(Dude struts into classy business woman's office)
Dude: "Hey baby, your so hot, it's melting my steel!"
Woman: "Ohhh. How hot am I? Be truthful, don't lie to me. My last boyfriend left me in Oklahoma. He said I was explosive!"
Dude: "Oh yeah baby. Your about 2,700 degrees hot!"
Woman: "Don't let your building collapse yet! I've heard one liners and official stories before................"
Dude: "Oh BABY!!! Your sending me to war!!!"
Woman: "Pick up that boxcutter on the desk, and cut my bra strap!"
Dude: "That doesn't sound like a standown order to me baby!!! Yeah!"
Woman: "I wouldn't run drills on you, this is real!!!!"
Dude: "Don't tease me baby, whoops, I dropped my passport!"
Woman: "Ohhhhhh! I love it when a man drops his passport! It makes it all seem so real!!!!!!!! Take my Constitutional rights you stud! Take them now!"
Dude: "Now that's what I call a North American Union!!!"
I’m tired of backing down on this blog. I’m tired of being weary of what I post. I’m going to lay down truth whether you believe it or not. The reality is very clear and it is very harsh. The American government is corrupt. There are criminals running everything in America. There are child molesters in Child Protective Services. There are illegal immigrants fighting in our army. The CIA hauls tons of Cocaine and Heroin into the country everyday. Crop dusting jets are releasing Aerosol and leaving chemtrails in the air that we breathe.
The American people are under attack. They are being lied to everyday and trained to obey and bow down to a tyrannical world government. The globalists have an evil agenda that they plot every year at the annual Bilderberg group meeting (This year’s is in Turkey). The globalists are using America to police the world, program the public into sheep and force the economies of the world to collapse so that the globalists can institute their cashless credit system. This info can be found in major government documents and there is sufficient evidence to support this claim. America is dying and if we do not try to save it, there will be no more freedom. The globalists are covertly setting up the North American Union as we speak. They are keeping our borders open, building a Super Highway to connect Canada, US and Mexico. The globalists claim it is good for trade yet they allow illegals into the country, offer them Medicare, bank accounts and welfare. American citizens are the only people that are guaranteed those rights. Not illegals. The globalists continue to use the Federal Reserve System to print more money and devalue the dollar. The dollar is currently worth less than 4 cents. The globalists forced President Bush to sign off the Homeland Security Presidential Directive 51 that states that in the event of an emergency, the President has complete control of all the decisions and the military. It states that congress has no power in the event of such an emergency. The globalists got the funding for such a directive in the John Warner Defense Authorization act of 2006. In short, the President has announced he is a dictator and has complete control of the American government. Of course, as we know, the President is simply a puppet for the globalists– so, therefore, the globalists have complete control of our government.
All that is left for the globalists is to start World War III–which has been in their plans for quite some time. All they need to do is to stage another terror attack, similar to 9/11, whereby thousands of people are killed either in the US, Israel or Britain. The globalists can then use the media to blame it on Al-Queda and say that Iran was funding them. Such a catastrophe would force the American people to submit to complete war and martial law. If such an attack occurs, America will be officially dead. America will fall to Martial Law and into a complete dictatorship. If the New World Order stages a nuke attack–which the CFR said may happen in Cleveland or Los Angeles–the media will blame the attacks on Iranian funded terrorists groups and force the country into a dictatorship. In documents released by the CFR, a group directly linked to the globalists and the Bilderberg group, they talk about “security” measures that will have to be taken under such an attack. The “security” measures mentioned are nothing than total slavery.
Under Martial Law, the first amendment to the constitution (Freedom of Speech), will be totally gone. Americans will no longer be able to surf the internet or watch television. Such entertainment will be banned due to the fact that terrorists may infiltrate the public. We will no longer be able to communicate through E-mail because it will all be tracked. Any e-mail that has anything to do with Anti-government propaganda will be stopped and the writer will be taken away and put into a FEMA concentration camp. That’s right. Americans have no clue that such camps even exist! Right now they’re called FEMA Emergency Centers, however, they are nothing more than torture camps. Seriously, do a Google search on them. The government will strip children from their families and put them into Re-education camps where teachers brainwash them to love the New World Order. I know this stuff sounds fake but I really kid you not. This all exists. Your house will be filled with 8 to 10 families to keep people concentrated so that they won’t commit terror. Any person that is too religious or too patriotic will be sent away to the camps. America is becoming Nazi Germany very quickly. Everything will be controlled. If you need to leave your “community” you will need a permit. You won’t get food or gas unless you have the National ID Card and eventually, the RFID chip. The recent halted terrorist attacks, namely Fort Dix and JFK Airport, are ways to make the public think an attack is near. Eventually, the main nuke/biological attack will occur and the people will believe that Iran committed the crime. The final goal for the globalists is to model the entire world after modern China. The world will become one governmental power that is entirely controlled and monitored by an elite group of insiders. This is not what I want to live under.
The Russians are coming! No, cancel that. They are already here.
hehehe | 07.27.07 - 2:18 pm |
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I'd heard about the Russian women that were being made available for mail order brides, etc., but had no idea the Police were joining forces with the KGB. Not surprised, those guys really know how to treat (or is it mistreat?) a prisoner.
This can't be good!
The Final Solution seems to be alive and well (although its victims won’t).
?? | 07.27.07 - 2:15 pm | #
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nicely summed up...wake up!
All evidence points to this....the elites know about it.
The deception is...who will go...
immigrants, jews, blacks, asians, muslims, christians, suburbian whites, native americans, media personnel, lawyers, bankers, sub-elite conspirators, conspiracy theorists, cummunists, fascists, environmentalists, homosexuals...
Ready for the answer...
ALL OF THE ABOVE
According to Patriot officer "George," formerly of the California LAPD, America has brought in many Russian Police officers and placed them in American police departments nationwide. Operating under the name of "Project Harmony," they are being trained to work side by side with American police officers. (Since when do American police departments need Russians to supplement their police stations?)
During a previous Patriot radio interview, Officer George admitted that Russian police officers are now boasting to Americans in obvious reference to the role Russians will play in helping seize America under martial law for the New World Order.
Officer George shares, "A friend of mine was pulled over in California on a routine traffic violation. He wondered in fact why he was handled so roughly by this officer. It turned out that this officer was Russian! He then started to boast to the bewildered American, 'You better get used to it, because we Russians are here to take over, you stupid American, and you don’t even know it!'”
Indeed. Although my focus in my email reports previously has been on German troop involvement in America under coming martial law, I must also report that Russian troops will play a major role in the seizure of this nation. It is estimated that at least two million Russian troops are now stationed in Mexico, according to eye witnesses. There is a strong Russian troop presence in Canada and America, as well. In fact, the Stars and Stripes newspaper reported that for the first time in American history, there are more foreign troops in this nation than American troops! (And I have just read in the European edition of USA TODAY while in Germany that there are over 253,000 American military in Europe and scatted throughout the world!)
I have received numerous reports of Russian military presence already established in America: a mini-Russian military base videotaped in DeSoto National Forest; a Russian-controlled underground base with prisoner detention facilities in Minnesota near the Canadian border; Russian helicopters in numerous places, and more. But this is not surprising, since America has already signed a secret treaty, called The Trilateral Alliance Treaty, with both Russia and China, that states in the event of martial law, Russia and China will send in their troops to assist in weapons seizures and arrests, etc.
I have personally photographed Russian T-80 tanks in desert camo at White Sands missile range in New Mexico. Numerous accounts of fully functional Russian T-80s and T-72s have come to me from across the nation. Reports have also come to me through watchdog groups of new, highly sophisticated tanks manufactured in Germany and Russia, some with mini-nuke launching capacity and ability to withstand 50 caliber bullet rounds and NBCs, as well.
I don't know. Perhaps it was well stated after all, "...stupid Americans!"
Are you aware of this information? It is your nation and your freedoms that are threatened!
The Russians are coming! No, cancel that. They are already here.
Bush Threats and Actions Risk Accidental War with Iran
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=0
While previously visiting Israel, I spent time in Ben Yehuda Square interviewing a Messianic Jew, Michael, regarding coming martial law. I asked him what evidence he had uncovered regarding this subject. He replied, "Oh, I know all about it. Our family is good friends with [anonymous source], an active CIA operative in Tulsa, OK. He comes over to our house all the time to talk about martial law, to get it off his chest."
I asked, "Did he ever mention to you the AMTRAK repair facility in Indiana that has been retrofitted into a future termination facility?"
Michael got excited. "Yes. He admitted to us that this facility will take out 26,000 religious and political prisoners arrested under martial law every 24 hours!"
My personal friend and Pentagon information source, Al Cuppett, has been to this facility and has confirmed its existence and purpose. This facility is a gassing/crematory facility whose large former repair barns can hold four prisoner boxcars at a time, while deadly toxic gas is released into this barn. I have visited it as well.
During Hitler's first attempt to install the Illuminati's New World Order, the Nazi death camp guards had a saying: "Ein tag, ein tausend!" ("One day, one thousand," in reference to how many victims could be terminated daily in each death camp).
I have remarked to my German Christian friends while lecturing in Germany, that "...Hitler may have killed his ten million, but in America under martial law they will kill their tens of millions!" The Final Solution seems to be alive and well (although its victims won’t).
911 Ripple Effect - Full Length Film
1 hr 27 min - Jul 9, 2007 - (136 ratings)
http://video.google.com/
videopla...507648836588010
9/11 Ripple Effect - Extra Equipment
1 min - Jun 15, 2007 - (48 ratings)
Examines the extra equipment present on the second aircraft that struck the Twin Towers. Features interviews with 9/11 researcher Phil Jayhan and commercial airline pilot Glen Stanish
http://video.google.com/
videopla...004344340997310
Been liking your posts, but i have a question for you, did Bushy actualy say that publicaly, about taking propertys.
chris jones | 07.27.07 - 12:54 pm | #
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Say it publicly????
He signed a fucking BS executive order saying it.
The secretary of the treasury is the judge, jury, executioner, and sole witness of evidence.
More here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20070717-
3.html
My personal commentary here:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...?
a=49827#115105
What motivated the 9/11 hijackers? See testimony most didn't
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=0
Mmmm, Jbrid. Saurdine flavored 911 truth panties. Yum. We'll custom design a pair just for you! A tribute edition that tastes like chocolate in the trunk. Petite and plus sizes available. Collapsing towers on the butt, pentagon you know where!
LiveLeak.com Interviews Ron Paul:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?
i=d...=de1_1185477767
911 truth and inforwars "edible panties" now available at the infowars shop. 5 choices of design and color patterns!
Gabriel Alan King | 07.27.07 - 1:33 pm |
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Hi GAK, I've got to get me some of those. Save some for me, okay. I'd like the Britney Spears 'taste-alike' model if there's any left. Probably plenty of the Janet Reno model they're still trying to push on the crowd at a discounted price -- 10 for a nickle. I'll pass on those // they're long past their expiration date, and besides I never have liked the taste of sardines and bananas all mixed together -- have you?
Smile forum friend.
Fun Time:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../
270707pers.htm
But then I think back at when I was blind and that causes me to have mercy on the "newbies" to the truth!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 07.27.07 - 1:11 pm |
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Very well put. I have to agree, but sometimes it gets a bit diffiult dealing with true morons. The really sound asleep refuse to wake up crowd.
911 truth and inforwars "edible panties" now available at the infowars shop. 5 choices of design and color patterns!
they dont count them because they need them to make your clothes and food for disgusting pay.
i dont like the idea of illegals coming in to ay country but they need them...thats why they dont keep a count.
peace
They getting away with murder, it is in fact HUMAN SACRIFICE, FOR PROFIT.
chris jones | 07.27.07 - 12:54 pm |
Chris,
I'll say it again,
you rock!!
why people refuse to see the satanism at work here makes no sense to me!
But then I think back at when I was blind and that causes me to have mercy on the "newbies" to the truth!
So the author wants to replace Bush's terror campaign abroad with a terror campaign of his own design? Sorry, but the answer is not more violence but to end the violance. And since we started it I suggest we stop it too.
And thanks for that YouTube link (Tillman) -- looks as if the retired 4-star general (Wesley Clark) does have his suspicions as to the Tillman story.
jbrid1138 | 07.27.07 - 12:54 pm | #
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I think he knows quite a bit more, but understands the concept of timing.
I think he will be instrumental in verifying many of our questions when the time is right.
As a military man, he definitely knows the concept of "choose your battles" to win the war.
For you few out there that missed it -- Here's a shorter version made for just YOU:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...dlEcFfYZ2k&
NR=1
I see it's TIME to remind a few out there in forumland of this TRUTH (Yes, from BUSH) --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...related&
search=
Plus, he is very good at instilling fear in the people by saying, "either you are with me or you are against me" and "if you speak out against the war, you may be subject to losing all your property."
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 12:19 pm | #
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Hi Marjorie.
Been liking your posts, but i have a question for you, did Bushy actualy say that publicaly, about taking propertys. I must have just missed it if he did, i try to keep up, but Im sure i miss lot still.
If he porclaimed that, it will mean REvolution if his band of mercenaries attempts to do this.
I think he stuck his foot in his mouth, as a matter of fact i think he never took his foot out.
If hims and his gange are not publically hanged, and their accounts-money assests frozen and returned to this land.and every other profiteer,MIC, contrators etc, that have fed of the blood of innocents and defiled the constitution, then its just not America any longer, hanging them would be our only redemption as a nation.
They invaded a soveriegn foriegn NAtion in their hunt for WMDS, there were none, however they killed 800,0000 civilians, families, infants,children, mothers and fathers, plus our own troops.
They getting away with murder, it is in fact HUMAN SACRIFICE, FOR PROFIT.
Who cares if he is smart or dumb, he is a fucking traitor to the land we live in.
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 12:24 pm |
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Spoken like a true patriot. Exactly right.
And thanks for that YouTube link (Tillman) -- looks as if the retired 4-star general (Wesley Clark) does have his suspicions as to the Tillman story.
The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target: The Emerging Euro-denominated International Oil Market
by William Clark
http://www.energybulletin.net/2913.html
Damned article typos (Dont they have EDITORS at these online magazines???)
The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target: The Emerging Euro-denominated International Oil Marker
by William Clark
http://www.energybulletin.net/2913.html
Bring 'em on:
http://atimes.com/atimes/South_A...a/
IG27Df02.html
Militants in Pakistan await US
Efforts by the Pakistani establishment to defuse the volatile situation in its tribal areas have failed, despite the carrot of large amounts of money being dangled before the Pakistani Taliban there.
Islamabad is now caught between militants spoiling for a fight and US and coalition troops in Afghanistan ready to give them one - and there is little Pakistan can now do to prevent this from happening.
Iraq war veteran's parents sue U.S. after suicide
http://www.reuters.com/article/
d...639524220070726
Iraq war veteran's parents sue U.S. after suicide
The suit accuses the federal government of not helping 23-year-old Jeffrey Lucey, who committed suicide in his parents' Massachusetts basement less than a year after returning home from fighting during the invasion of Iraq in 2003. U.S. Veterans Affairs Secretary James Nicholson was also named in the suit.
"This government is guilty of not taking care of the troops after they come home," the veteran's father, Kevin Lucey, said in an interview. "We are hoping to show this nation how broken the Veterans Administration is. We want to make this a responsive and efficient system."
Israeli Co Is New Pentagon Computer Security Supplier!
http://www.rense.com/general77/isco.htm
The Israeli company for computer security Check Points has been appointed as the official supplier to the American Ministry of Defense. In particular, the company will supply American Federal agencies with a protection system for data stored on laptop computers.
Posted Jul 27, 2007 08:12 AM PST
Pat Tillman's father: Memo proves coverup
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/n...tory?
id=2819891
The parents of former NFL player Pat Tillman say a memo from a top general passed up the military ranks within a week after Tillman's April 2004 death supports the family's long-held belief that the Bush administration knew more than it has publicly acknowledged about the incident. The memo, obtained Friday by The Associated Press, warned that Tillman might have died from friendly fire, and was intended to reach all the way to President Bush.
Posted Jul 27, 2007 08:16 AM PST
Category: COVER-UP/DECEPTIONS
Compared to Bush though, he looks like Albert Einstein.
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Sane: I think that Bush is really smart in a dumb way. In other words, he acts dumb, but he has had a big part in bringing about the NWO agenda, and he has not waivered one iota during his entire six years as president. Plus, he makes it all sound like he is promoting righteousness and doing the right thing for humanity while he sets himself up with omnipotent power with his executive orders and his "little" addendums to bills passed by Congress. Plus, he is very good at instilling fear in the people by saying, "either you are with me or you are against me" and "if you speak out against the war, you may be subject to losing all your property."
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 12:19 pm | #
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I personally feel that the whole "Bush is dumb/smart" debate is another way to split the defenders of the constitution down the middle.
Who cares if he is smart or dumb, he is a fucking traitor to the land we live in.
>>Does Time Magazine have a Liberal Bias??? BLAST FROM THE PAST
Time Magazine Person of the Year - Table of Contents
Dec. 31, 2001 - Jan. 7, 2002 issue of TIME
http://www.time.com/time/poy2001...oy2001/
toc.html
Person of the Year 2001: Rudy Giuliani
Tough and smart, sure. But who knew about Rudy's big heart? Here's how a very human man taught us super-human courage
http://www.time.com/time/poy2001/
'We're under attack'
Near misses, dead phones, last words: an oral history of 9/11 by Giuliani and his aides
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/
poyoral.html
His Job Is Done — Ours Is Not
Outgoing New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani teaches us how to respond to crisis
http://www.time.com/time/subscri.../
poyopener.html
Inside the War Room
Relying on instinct, and trusting his team, George W. Bush unleashed a new kind of war against a new kind of enemy — and faster than you might have guessed
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...y2001/
nwar.html
How Bush Rates
Does he measure up to other wartime Presidents? Yes, say six historians, who give him high marks for winning public trust and having faith in his advisors
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...2001/
nprez.html
Glory in the Glare
On Sept. 11, this photo of Mike Kehoe was taken as he rushed up Tower One, earning him instant acclaim. But being called a hero is not the same as feeling like one
http://www.time.com/time/subscri.../
sofireman.html
Choosing the Person of the Year: TIME Editor Jim Kelly. When TIME's managing editor sat down to chat with AOL members, he fielded a slew of questions about POY--[supposedly this is where Rudy did not meet the criteria...but the page is "missing" hmmm...]
http://www.time.com/time/
subscri...chat_kelly.html
Readers' Choice-Tens of thousands of readers submit their nominations for Person of the Year
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/
readers.html
STORIES THAT MATTERED [to the illuminati elite]
The Missing Intern: Why Condit Is Running Again
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/
sequel1.html
The Stem-Cell Debate: In the Embryonic Stage
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/
sequel2.html
The G.O.P. Defector: Senator Turncoat Has No Regrets
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/
sequel3.html
Santee's Shooter: How Bad a Boy?
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/
sequel4.html
California's Energy Crisis: Power's On — But the Cost!
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/
sequel5.html
The Cincinnati Riot: An Uneasy Calm in a Troubled City
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/
sequel6.html
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Wake up, all of the media is so owned it defies the constitution.
I've got to see if I can find that Keith Olbermann clip -- just for my own curiosity, just to make sure what I am relaying is in fact the TRUTH. Bet it is -- the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
jbrid1138 | 07.27.07 - 11:34 am | #
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h?
v=jbQVGcBmyu0
Compared to Bush though, he looks like Albert Einstein.
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Sane: I think that Bush is really smart in a dumb way. In other words, he acts dumb, but he has had a big part in bringing about the NWO agenda, and he has not waivered one iota during his entire six years as president. Plus, he makes it all sound like he is promoting righteousness and doing the right thing for humanity while he sets himself up with omnipotent power with his executive orders and his "little" addendums to bills passed by Congress. Plus, he is very good at instilling fear in the people by saying, "either you are with me or you are against me" and "if you speak out against the war, you may be subject to losing all your property."
CSPAN 1 RIGHT NOW...
Redeployment of US Forces.
Lawrence Korb former Asst Sec of Defense...Reagan 81-85 unravels the BS from the puppet generals that must kiss Bush's ass or get fired.
Korb is almost unanimously respected except for some disinfo artists like a Repub rep from Ohio that does not know his ass from a hole in the wall.
http://c-span.org
sane | Homepage | 07.27.07 - 12:03 pm | #
Oops cspan-2
CSPAN 1 RIGHT NOW...
Redeployment of US Forces.
Lawrence Korb former Asst Sec of Defense...Reagan 81-85 unravels the BS from the puppet generals that must kiss Bush's ass or get fired.
Korb is almost unanimously respected except for some disinfo artists like a Repub rep from Ohio that does not know his ass from a hole in the wall.
http://c-span.org
Flying flag upside down yields arrest
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....%
3D200770725118
Couple who flew flag upside down are charged with desecrating the flag.
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AND NOW FOR A MOMENT OF REALITY...
Public Law 829 (77th Congress) Sec. 4(a) :
"The flag should never be displayed with the union down SAVE AS A SIGNAL OF DIRE DISTRESS"
The flying of your Flag upside-down represents that you see "This Country IS In Crisis." This flag shall remain tattered and upside down as a sign of Constitutional distress!
"Let us Right the Flag and The Republic over which it stands!"
http://syninfo.com/Responsibility/
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Anyone care to debate whether or not this repblic is in a state of DIRE DISTRESS????
Tillman had even begun to arrange meetings with anti-war icons like Noam Chomsky upon his return to America before his death cut short any aspirations of becoming a focal point for anti-war sentiment
jbrid1138 | 07.27.07 - 11:34 am | #
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If you ever want to be myseriously suicided, heart attacked or found jumping off a ledge...
Just set up a meeting with NWO agent Chomsky and the Illuminati ops will take care of all the rest.
Novak’s heaven: A ‘place where there are no blogs.’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...e-are-no-blogs/
“I’m 76 years old, and pretty soon I’m going to a place where there are no blogs,” said conservative pundit Robert Novak at an American Spectator breakfast on Thursday morning. Speaking of the land beyond, Novak added, “All presidents look better after they’re dead, and George W. Bush can count on that.”
Specter breaks Air Force One rules.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...orce-one-rules/
Guests of President Bush aboard Air Force One are not supposed to “mingle” with the press corps or criticize the President and his team. But yesterday, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) “violated both points of decorum“:
According to a pool report of the encounter, Mr. Specter expressed anew his criticism of Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales but said he saw no signs that Mr. Gonzales would be forced to resign. Mr. Specter attributed Mr. Gonzales’s job security to Mr. Bush’s “personal loyalty” to him.
Mr. Specter spoke derisively of Mr. Gonzales’s appearance Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee, where he faced accusations that he misled Congress last year when he said there had been no disagreement within the administration over the National Security Administration’s domestic surveillance program. […]
Mr. Specter also waded into another uncomfortable subject, the Congressional demands for testimony from Karl Rove, the presidential adviser, and Harriet E. Miers, the former White House counsel, among others.
According to the New York Times, “White House officials seemed none too pleased with Mr. Specter’s remarks.”
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
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Wesley Clark concludes "orders came from the very top" to murder pro-football star because he was about to become an anti-war political icon
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As far back as March 2003, immediately after the invasion, Tillman famously told his comrade Spc. Russell Baer, "You know, this war is so fucking illegal," and urged his entire platoon to vote against Bush in the 2004 election. Far from the gung-ho gruff stereotype attributed to him, Tillman was actually a fiercely intellectual man with the courage of his convictions firmly in place.
Tillman had even begun to arrange meetings with anti-war icons like Noam Chomsky upon his return to America before his death cut short any aspirations of becoming a focal point for anti-war sentiment
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According to Daily Kos, Wesley Clark appeared on Keith Olbermann's Countdown last night and stated that "the orders came from the very top" to murder Tillman as he was a political symbol and his opposition to the war in Iraq would have rallied the population around supporting immediate withdrawal.
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I've got to see if I can find that Keith Olbermann clip -- just for my own curiosity, just to make sure what I am relaying is in fact the TRUTH. Bet it is -- the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
CIA Coups 1953-?
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US Coups & overthrow of democratically elected governments?
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