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strgzr | 08.10.07 - 5:46 pm | #

"Or is that a new program about to begin that requires us to register that goofed?
Henry Bowman"

It's either AJ trying to keep out the spammers or it's the NSA mob playing silly buggers.

Just ignore it until it won't go away

Not the advice I would give Americans out in the real world, mind - but something like...
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Jefferson's Ghost | 08.01.07 - 2:08 pm | #

"Again, we're f*cked.
Henry Bowman "

Not so Henry - Listen to the real men:-

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Just precisely what IS America still waiting for? Santa Claus?

Well , he ain't coming - he's on the No Fly list...

So it's up to the American people to do something NOW.
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Jefferson's Ghost | 08.01.07 - 2:05 pm | #

This is from my blog I posted awhile back.I thought some might be interested.I also sent to a friend on the inside and this person is forwarding it to other politicians.
Mr. Emerson has out right denied ANY North American Union.
Now,I'm waiting to hear back about U.S. troops on Canadian soil during the Montebello meeting.He usually takes 30 days to reply.
I also sent my friend the youtube vid of McKay denying any barrier or U.S. troop involvement.
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Thursday, July 19, 2007

I got my usual 30 day reply from Mr. Emerson.At least the man has the courtesy to respond.Research and decide for yourselves.

Thank you for your correspondence of June 8, 2007, regarding Canada's
relationship with the United States and Mexico.

Let me assure you that discussions with Canada's continental neighbours
are in no way aimed at creating a European Union-style North American
Union, with common currency or border. They are about three sovereign
countries working together to improve the quality of life for their
citizens. Reports stating that governments are discussing such a union
are misinformed and misguided.

In your correspondence, you also make reference to a conference of the
North American Forum (NAF) held in Banff in September 2006. Let me begin
by stating that the NAF is in no way linked to the Security and
Prosperity Partnership of North America. The NAF is a private conference
of participants drawn from academia, the private sector,
non-governmental associations and governments meeting to explore a wide
range of themes relating to North America.

Again, thank you for writing to share your views.

Sincerely,

The Honourable David L. Emerson, P.C., M.P.
Minister of International Trade and
Minister for the Pacific Gateway and the Vancouver-Whistler Olympics
RCF | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 11:22 pm | #

Timeline of the NAU/SPP from a Canadian perspective:
http://www.vivelecanada.ca/ stati...060830133702539
RCF | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 11:09 pm | #

Who really believes this crew will walk quietly away from power? They have the motivation, the money and the method for doing away with the electoral process altogether. So why wouldn't they?

The groundwork for dismissal of both the legislative and judicial branch has been carefully laid. "
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Jefferson's Ghost | 07.31.07 - 5:01 pm | #

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Ya know, when you put it like that, we're fucked.
It is clear when you put it in this perspective that they will do whatever to stay in ruling power.

Again, we're fucked.
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 10:56 pm | #

Just had a new window pop up with my last post, it was something like
"login_registration_required"
What's with that?
Or (it was Microsoft logo at the top) is that going on now and the progam gliched and I shouldn't have been allowed to see that?
Or is that a new program about to begin that requires us to register that goofed?
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 10:48 pm | #

Sex parties, maybe MK-Ultra?
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 5:07 pm | #

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Watch "Clinton Chronicles" and you will see the tip of the white albatros.........
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 10:45 pm | #

CHENEY
or as he says it, “a unique creature” in constitutional government.
Looks more like the "creature" is waiting for the fall of the constitution!
Cy | 07.31.07 - 10:31 pm | #

Looks like the DOD got all the money they needed after the tragedy. How convenient.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 7:11 pm | #

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The auditors doing the audit were in the wing of the pentagon that was hit, this conveniently put the audit on the back burner.
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 10:23 pm | #

" Penn And Teller Get Environmentalists To Sign Water Banning Petition"
This is pretty much universal. They even have had people sign petitions which would limit freedom or something like that in the Mount Rushmore episode.
1984 | 07.31.07 - 9:30 pm | #

Now Torin is the Light of the Lord I want to see ! Yeah man hammer them with the facts. I'll bet anyone that you cannot slice steel with UL. aluminum !

Those jets were made of TITANIUM ! This means Boeing and the Pentagon was involved in 9-11 !
Gator | 07.31.07 - 8:50 pm | #

I just heard from an associate from the middle east with connections at the top that bush jr. personally, not including the billions being made by his relatives is skimming 70 million per day from Iraqs government. That's over 25 billion per year. How long do you think this war will last?
Bonanzaman | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 8:35 pm | #

Lots of play money for the military these day's.
Now that America's honorable politicians are all gone on vacation, perhaps the people can sneak back in and run things, for a while anyway. The way a just and honest society should be, remember? "For" and "By" the people. You might even save yourselves alot of time and money.
I read that alot of the politicians will be headed to some place called Bohemian Grove where they hire male prostitutes to keep the politicians happy.

It's not looking too good for American values.
Synchronicity | 07.31.07 - 8:23 pm | #

2.3 Trillion Missing From Department of Defense-Rumsfeld Can't Explain
http://lesliehayes.blogspot.com/...ssing- from.html
The Department of Defense Auditors could not account for 2.3 trillion Dollars in one year alone. This was announced 1 day prior to 9/11/01. What happened to this investigation? Looks like the DOD got all the money they needed after the tragedy. How convenient.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 7:11 pm | #

THE BEST LINERTARIAN/ANTI-WAR MOVIE EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://video.google.com/videopla...285837286& hl=en
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 7:06 pm | #

The Coming American Reichstag Fire
July 30, 2007
by Phil Rockstroh

In this summer of angst and grim foreboding about what further assaults against common sense and common decency the Bush Administration might inflict upon the people of the world, how many times during the day do those of us -- still possessed of mind, heart and conscience -- take pause, hoping we've seen the worst of it, then, fearing we haven't yet, attempt to push down the dread rising within us, so that we might simply make it through the day and be able to rest at night?

Accordingly, those who have been paying attention are aware that the outward mechanisms of martial law are in place. We shudder knowing that Bush has issued an executive decree that grants him dictatorial power in the event of some nebulously defined national emergency. In addition, the knowledge nettles us that a vast network of internment camps bristle across the length of the U.S., standing at wait for those who might raise objections to the fascistic fury unloosed by the American empire's version of the Reichstag fire.

Moreover, a closer look would reveal that the inner processes by which an individual begins the act of acceptance of authoritarian excess -- the mixture of chronic passivity, boredom, low grade anxiety and unfocused rage inherent in the citizens/consumers of the corporate state that primes an individual for fascism -- have been in place for quite some time within the psyches of the American populace, both elites and hoi polloi alike. Although, don't look for torch-lit processions thronging the nation's streets and boulevards; rather, look for a Nuremberg Rally of couch-bound brownshirts.

Instead of ogling the serried ranks of jut-jawed, SS soldiers, a contemporary Leni Riefenstahl would be forced to film chubby clusters of double-chinned consumers, saluting the new order with their TV remotes. In the contemporary United States, the elation induced by the immersion of one's individual will to the mindless intoxication of the mob might only be possible, if Bush seized dictatorial control of the state while simultaneously sending out to all citizens gift certificates to Ikea.

After the catastrophes spawned by the rise of European fascism in the 1930s, a number of brilliant, original thinkers (including Hannah Arendt, Roberto Freire, Wilhelm Reich, and R. D. Laing) set out to study the phenomenon in order to learn how future calamities might be prevented. Although the methodologies and conclusions of these thinkers varied, each noted that alienation and dehumanization festered at the core of the death urge of fascism.

Nowadays, in contrast, the elites of the corporate media have proven themselves useless in this regard, believing, as they do, they constitute the thin line between the rabble at large (me and you) and the chaos begot by freedom. At present, mega-churches attract alienated suburbanites. Right wing talk show hosts misdirect their listeners alienation towards so-called illegal "aliens" and exploit their audience's sense of powerlessness (created by the rigged system of corporate capitalism) against elitist liberals (who themselves, ironically, benefit from the present system and who only want to change it to the degree that their own privilege will not be affected. In other words, not at all).

Combine the above with the American character trait of being hostile towards introspection and it becomes evident that the present disaster has been building for quite a while now. And it can (and most likely will) get worse -- far worse.

Most Americans alive today have been trained since birth to adapt to and serve the corrupt corporate structure by means of the shunning of critical thinking and have been conditioned to be in constant (empty) motion or in the thrall of mass media distraction. We have been taught that passivity is for losers, yet we find ourselves nearly powerless before the corporate/consumer/military/police/entertainment state. In this way, we serve our corporate masters; it serves the corpocracy that the lower orders refuse meaningful self-awareness. If one were to glimpse one's own illusions, then it follows one might begin to question collective delusions -- and this would upset the social order.

Those who have studied the dangers of authoritarian rule have advised us to be wary of people who carry an inner emptiness. Of course, these unfortunates yearn for the void to be filled. But with their hearts and minds mortared closed -- what makes it through the self-constructed prison is loud, stupid, and fascistic. At present, what penetrates is: Fundamentalist Sermons on Armageddon; violent video games; the empty spectacle of steroid-induced professional sports hype; the lethal fantasies of American exceptionalism; the exercise in Rock and Roll imperialism that U.S. foreign policy has become. In short, all the banal Sturm and Drang necessary to pierce those protective walls and penetrate the pervasive inner emptiness.

When the people of a culture have been conditioned to worship power -- but feel powerless -- there's trouble ahead. The elites must displace the public's rage by a demagogic sleight-of-hand such as the demonization of marginalized groups. In the US, we've been inundated by years of state and commercial propaganda that has degraded and demonized the country's permanent underclass by the labeling of them as welfare parasites and career criminals.

It has been noted that the mindset, methods, and procedures of America's punitive, profit-driven prison-industrial complex was a prototype for the systemic cruelty of Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib; furthermore, it is a given that those institutional affronts to human decency will have served as prototypes for the methods and procedures that will be practiced upon those who are swept-up in the purges and detainment mania following the declaration of martial law in the United States.

We push this knowledge away from us, fearing we will be paralyzed by its crushing implications. Worse, what is nearly impossible to admit is, most likely, the system crushed us long ago. Apropos, R. D. Laing averred that being able to adapt and function within an insane, authoritarian system renders one for all practical purposes insane -- only insane in a manner acceptable to a power mad ruling elite.

We must, at all costs, keep these feelings concealed; otherwise, we might be compelled to contemplate what we have forsaken, what passions and truths we have traded away for the false sense of security that the corporate order offered us when we tacitly agreed to surrender what was most sacred, vital and alive within us. One psychological manifestation of this phenomenon is the incessant chanting of that mantra of the American corporate workforce: "I'm not my job. I'm not what I do all day long."

For a moment, meditate on the calamity implicit in such a sentiment. Because If we cannot locate and engage our true selves during our waking hours -- then who the hell are we anyway? This is a profoundly troubling circumstance. Moreover, if we've condemned our daylight selves to a void of non-being, what then remains of us?

We experience this dislocation of the life force as a sense of nebulous dread. Everything, these days, the architecture and accouterment of our lives seems so fragile and unreal; it feels as if everything could just fly apart, at any given moment. The world and our place in it seems so flimsy: an empire built of eggshells; it could all shatter in an instant.

Living on credit, the house of cards of the real estate market, jobs evaporating, most of us languishing only a couple of paychecks away from ruin: The empire is coming undone. As it is, it seems the nation is only being held together with hydrogenated fat, wheat gluten, over-extended credit and particle board. Ergo, there is one law the lawless Bush administration and their keepers from the plundering class cannot flout: the second law of thermodynamics. They won't be able to claim executive privilege to avoid the consequences of negative entropy.

In a similar vein, we, the underlings of empire, stand helpless before the prevailing madness. Individual reason rarely acts as a countervailing force to stem a drowning tide of cultural cognitive dissonance. Because the more epic and all-compassing the mistake, the more epic and all-encompassing come the rationalizations, the scapegoating and the compulsion for do-overs. If the surge isn't working as fantasized, then we'll double-dog surge you and then bomb Iran.

If police state tactics fail to alleviate a sense of anxiety, then we must construct more detainment camps, more maximum security prisons, enact more federal death penalty statutes. "Bring back the electric chair; being put to sleep, like stray pets, is too good for the traitors," the mob will rage. That's the solution, but (cognitive dissonance being what it is) we need to go bigger -- we need an electric sofa -- yet, bigger still -- an electric dining room set! "Aahh ... the smell of deep-fried dissidents in the morning."

And over the smoking corpses, let us pray. We need to pray for ... what? ... more prayer. These prayers would work, the homicidally faithful will insist -- if every single doubter was induced to drop to their knees and pray. Hence, we need prayer in the public schools. We need prayer on public transportation. We need prayer in public restrooms!

Animus, ignorance, and magical thinking are a tragic mix -- and I'm afraid that vintage of mind is the hideous wine of our times. The social criteria that gives rise to fascism is in place in the U.S. and those in positions of power have a strong interest in seeing things remain that way. All we can do is what folks (a minority) have always done ... exile or resistance.

In my opinion, both are honorable. The other options are varying degrees of "little Eichman
Peace | 07.31.07 - 6:13 pm | #

Marjory and Peace, there's some confusion here. I did clarify a few posts back:-
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Dear Jefferson's Ghost: Yes, I do remember that 2006 Ohio election. That's where Jerome Corsi sent out a NWV story that we needed to make sure that GOP Blackwell got elected (as governor?), because his Democratic opponent (forgot his name) was for helping the gays and other citizens at the poverty level;

and that when it came time to vote as to whether Ohio should be a part of the effort to call for a CON CON and change our Constitution to "Define what is a marriage was [between a man and a woman] with its regulation of sexuality (which Mormon President Hinckley initiated in 1995)," that his Democratic contender didn't even show up to vote.

I sent back an email to Corsi stating "what's wrong with being Gay or poor?--they're still citizens under the Constitution and have the same rights as the rest of us"; and "thank God he didn't show up" because I surely didn't want the Constitution changed with a CON CON (constitutional convention), and I stated that "I wondered whose side he was really on."

So I'm still looking closely at Corsi because his views and what he said did not set well with me at all.
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 5:40 pm | #

Your points are well taken. One area disturbs me, Congress/constitution.
I could be wrong but are they not the representatives of the Citizens of this land. Or have they given allegiance to their masters.
I allways considered the Congress the voice of the people, therfor I am either nieve or lost the picture completly. For and by, famous words that presently mean nothing. What now?
To me this is taxation without representation. In final we are controled by a group who's methodry is human sacrifice, blood for money.Crimes against humanity. What constitution, what reps. what voice????
chris jones | 07.31.07 - 11:09 am | #
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Hi Chris. Remember those envelopes containing the Aames strain of "anthrax" (which was manufactured at the Dugway Proving Ground's Biological Lab in Utah) that were"mysteriosly" sent to some of our elected representatives in Washington a few years back. And they had to close off entire offices and decontaminate huge areas? And also where those postal workers were contaminated (at about the same time) with Anthrax spilled from envelopes and even died as a result?

Well, it was all planned "for a desired effect," and that's when our elected officials turned "coattail" and ran, and transferred their allegiance over to the "shadow government's" NWO. And fairly soon after that, they (both the Senate and House) unanimously passed the "Patriot Act" (shortly after 9/11 without even reading it). And they have been at this shadow government's beckoning and control ever since (like submissive dogs without integrity who roll over and continually turn their "bellies up".)

Well, our Congress has now "lost it" and has become totally corrupted along with most of our elected officials across our land. (I do believe they have even all joined together to bring us down by "ambuscade.")

And that's why we can't count on any of them to "make things right" or save us from the dissolution of our Constitution. They don't belong to us anymore except for "lip service." I would like to know what the NWO has on them all to keep them all "in tow." Sex parties, maybe MK-Ultra?
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 5:07 pm | #

"What is there to do, get the word out, truth is the sword, the ultimate weapon of honor and freedom.
chris jones"

Hey Chris - you were doing fine til then. How many words are there to get out? They're all out there.

Time's up!
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Jefferson's Ghost | 07.31.07 - 5:07 pm | #

get rid of the Royal Family, Masonry, the Club of Rome and the CFR, voila, problems solved.
glenn horlacher | 07.31.07 - 5:06 pm | #

Hey I'm back

All I'm saying about programming and mind control is that before you can get information into someone's head, they have to be receptive to it.
They need to be aware of things like HARRP, THE QWEN TOWER'S, CELL TOWER'S (signals that can and do effect there thinking) T.V. (thats a big one) subliminial messages ect.
Believe it or not---many people don't even know such things exist. So before you begin educating
them it really helps to make them aware of these things--- then they get a better grasp of what is happening. Otherwise they do tend to disreguard what your saying.
It is so obvious that 9/11 was an inside job yet people don't even seem to care much less notice!
That is mind control and programming.
CINDY | 07.31.07 - 5:05 pm | #

Marjory and Peace, there's some confusion here. I did clarify a few posts back:-

Exec Order gets signed. Constitutional Law (what a joke) prevents EOs from taking immediate effect. 30 days minimum is specified.

Want more? Read what was posted on la indy. Read Chussodovsky's effort to enlighten you.

Yep, as I said:

Bye bye America unless you act now. Truly.

Still not convince? Then try this, please:-

http://www.freepress.org/departm...ay/19/2007/ 2722

wherein-
"this administration has a deep, profound and uncompromised contempt for democracy, for the rule of law, and for the US Constitution. When George W. Bush went on the record (twice) as saying he has nothing against dictatorship, as long as he can be dictator, it was a clear and present policy statement.

Who really believes this crew will walk quietly away from power? They have the motivation, the money and the method for doing away with the electoral process altogether. So why wouldn't they?

The groundwork for dismissal of both the legislative and judicial branch has been carefully laid. "
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Jefferson's Ghost | 07.31.07 - 5:01 pm | #

OPINIONS.
Well folks we all have them, as far as the Elites goal all I can envision is their goal is global control.
But, the main issue is whats going to be the next hit in the US. 2008, well if one of the puppets take over, it will be the continuence of the Elites plan. However if something or someone comes along with some courage and threatens their goal, they will stop at nothing. Meaning what, another 911,martial law, expansion of the war, and Blackwater Security in the streets. Thats for starters.
Pockets of resitance will be defined as terorists, unamerican, anrchists, etc. and be dealt with post haste.
Many Americans have not seen people slaughtered, have not starved, have not done without electricity, housing etc. I sincerely hope they don't.
What is there to do, get the word out, truth is the sword, the ultimate weapon of honor and freedom.
chris jones | 07.31.07 - 4:47 pm | #

yeah the endles rocket suply is ace
Lars | 07.31.07 - 4:46 pm | #

Dang Lars, that's gotta be the worst grade B movie I've ever seen.
How does he keep finding those grenades for his RPG launcher? Was it an easter egg hunt?
Dumb, very dumb.
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 4:43 pm | #

9/11stealth - WTC Pentagon - Removing Evidence and Witnesses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...related& search=

What is inside this box, and why did they take it?
jbrid1138 | 07.31.07 - 4:34 pm | #

Who cares if it's cheap............how bout not charging at all so we all get this "important" information. I mean really, whats the point charging us at all..........what the fuck? That right there Mr. Jones tells me that your in this for the money
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There are ome people I truly do not understand. You happen to be one of them. Ever attempt to run a firm. employees, insurances, lawyers, reporters, travel, investigative filming for the good of America.. ETC. Costs a buck doesn't it.
Ya know, I personelly do not give a twit if this man made a million, he risked his neck to do it, and is dedicated. I bet if your broke and spilled the beans you would probably get assistance in this matter. However, respect costs nothing.
chris jones | 07.31.07 - 4:33 pm | #

Damn Sane,

I can't keep up. Do you have info about our remaining time frame........like from 2007-2012. Many don't see humans or earth making it past 2012 if not due to global war then due to the planet Nibiru passing earth and stopping our rotation and tipping us in the opposite direction. Just curious........trying to keep up
Peace | 07.31.07 - 2:04 pm | #

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Uh, Peace, Alex has a film he did in 1998, I think. He went from Texas up California, through Oregon, Wasington, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, back down to Texas. (might be some errors in my recolection, whoda geussed?), stopping at each major park along the route.
Don't recall the movies name, but he looked around at each park and found the UN control signs at each........and shows UN maps of future control of about 60% of the USA....any where there are natural recources of aANY kind.....
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 4:30 pm | #

Bevare of the turkish rambo (must se) good stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...related& search=
Lars | 07.31.07 - 4:25 pm | #

Damn Sane,

I can't keep up. Do you have info about our remaining time frame........like from 2007-2012. Many don't see humans or earth making it past 2012 if not due to global war then due to the planet Nibiru passing earth and stopping our rotation and tipping us in the opposite direction. Just curious........trying to keep up
Peace | 07.31.07 - 2:04 pm | #

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There was alot of discussion on this, I think 2-3 days ago on the last 2 pages........
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 4:12 pm | #
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The Plan for 2012:

Mayan Calender Ends

Polarity reverses

Lucifer Project blows up the world

Alien Invasion

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From what I have seen of NWO, these are all fucking bullshit, watch Zeitgeist for more on the end of the world.

The alien invasion one has many documents showing Rockefeller's history of planning a faux alien invasion.
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If any of them are true, well then it will not really matter will it? At least god will know that we faught for the protection of our minds and our souls. That we never became slaves to the NWO elitest agenda.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 4:22 pm | #

The Pentagon Got Hit By A Missile
part 1 of 2 ( -- 9 min)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...related& search=

part 2 of 2 ( -- 8 min)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...related& search=
jbrid1138 | 07.31.07 - 4:19 pm | #

Iraq war veteran and experienced demolitions expert blows the cover on 9/11 inside job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...10707expert.htm
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Add to his resume the fact that he designed and implemented well over 100 controlled demolitions. He was not just helping at a lower level in the demolitions - he was the guy responsible for calling the shots. Afterwards, he became a certified structural steel welder and worked in heavy and mega construction for over 5 years in locations around the world including several skyscrapers.
***extract***
jbrid1138 | 07.31.07 - 4:11 pm | #

What the hell Jones?

Lastly, if your a true American and you want to truly protect the Americans then you don't CHARGE THEM mere cents to listen to the show!! Who cares if it's cheap............how bout not charging at all so we all get this "important" information. I mean really, whats the point charging us at all..........what the fuck? That right there Mr. Jones tells me that your in this for the money and to push others forward, like Rowe to take the heat for the very passionate truth movement that HAS BEGUN.

Come on Alex, come to man!! Stop charging us, allow us all the information and STAND BEHIND KOREY ROWE, help us out..........where the hell did you go?
Liberty | 07.31.07 - 2:46 pm | #

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Each time I read this I get a clearer picture of what a lame fuck this person is.
Reminds me of some lazy shit living on welfare/disability, got hurt 'cause he was high on the job......or thinks we (the rest of the world that work) owe him support because his life was so tough before he figured out his insurance/disability scam......so he's pissed if he has to spend some of that free money for something he wants, we OWE it to him.

Stupid prick, what have you done since you bacame aware of this government crap, shitting on the world, satan squating on humanity, huh???
What have you done to help?? HUH??
I've burned and given out $1000 of dvds at my own expense. Plus computer and internet costs, plus money to Alex to support moochers like you.......Don't cross my path with your worthless fat ass....
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 4:00 pm | #

And now the truth is out...

9/11 was reported by the Carlyle group as being the anniversary of the Oslo peace accord between israelis and arabs that led to rabin/sadat's black ops assassinations.
[Amazing new documentary AJ's call in just mentioned:]

Flight 93 crashes into Camp David Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h? v=bqh2aof6W80
Flight 93 crashes into Camp David Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h? v=PcpFtSahbBw
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More on the date itself:
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Muhammad Anwar al-Sadat, President of the Arab Republic of Egypt, and Menachem Begin, Prime Minister of Israel, met with Jimmy Carter, President of the United States of America, at Camp David from September 5 to September 17, 1978, and have agreed on the following framework for peace in the Middle East. They invite other parties to the Arab-Israel conflict to adhere to it.

As you can see by simple math, 11 is the average of 5 and 17 so the idea of September 11th being considered an aniversary date of the The Camp David Accords is still a valid point.
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cart...0912& tid=126444
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What did the accord say:
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalo...east/ isrplo.htm
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Were there bona fide derailments to the peace accord by elites who are above Sadat/Rabin/Arafat/etc?
[you guys are gonna freak the fuck out over this:]
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/.../news/ n1874.cfm
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Just like the Illuminati Manson slaughtering of Sharon Tate was meant to insight a race war in the US, this attack was meant to create worldwide jews v. arabs conflict [this one seems to be having more success in the unadulterated slaughtering of innocents and the bringing about of NWO. They are getting so much more meniacal in their plans, Time is definitely short.]
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 3:55 pm | #

Come on Alex, come to man!! Stop charging us, allow us all the information and STAND BEHIND KOREY ROWE, help us out..........where the hell did you go?
Liberty | 07.31.07 - 2:46 pm | #

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I'm not sure what to say to this.
The other day when Korey got arrested, Alex was nuts. They got phone numbers of the base and the brig out on the air. I think all the phone calls raising hell is why Korey was released so quick. Apparently this person isn't involved enough and or never listens to Alex' show to know what he did that day.
As far as wanting "free" access to Alex' material, how 'bout if you pay for the $20,000 a month expanses of employees wages and bandwidth costs each month, about $15,000.......
You want it all given to you? You arrogant fuck, go to Google and download the shit for free, lazy fucker. I hope I'm not behind you in the line to FEMA, everyone behind me will have to step over your body..........
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 3:50 pm | #

The number of citizens out there who do not know the truth, even some of it, is SO LARGE AND VAST that even when we come to them WITH the truth, they want to bash our heads in for daring to say such a thing. Even after you show them the proof, the dismiss it........"poof" just like that.

Brain/Mind control perhaps. Yikes
Peace | 07.31.07 - 2:12 pm | #
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I have been studying some about what the BLM has been up to.

Well, maybe it was a year ago they were planning on spraying the whole West with pesticides. There was a big protest and I think they were stopped. They have also (secretly) tried to take over some rural communities (like mine) under the guise of fire protection and (illegally) tried to enforce road upgrades and a special improvement district--all at the expense of us taxpayers in the area. This was in partnership with the state. But they were caught so they were not able to implement their little hoax for control, takeover, and gain.

Now, they are doing experiments with fire on our mountains. From that vantage they can send anything they want into our air. First comes the forest fires, then the smoke, and then the permanent pollution. And all the while, the people are asleep. Where only a couple of years ago the air was pristine and clear, all of a sudden there is a continual "haze" and the air often "smells dirty."

Where I live, a couple of weeks ago (in the very early a.m.) there was "smoke" so bad that one man had a heart attack and died and another couldn't get his breath and continually coughed all night, and several of us were "sick" and felt dizzy. (It felt like something more than burning brush fire was in that smoke.) I went to the county commissioner and told him my fears and how bad the air had been where I live and tried to tell him some of what I knew was going on with our government.

Well, he wouldn't hear a thing about it and quickly dismissed me out of his office. He asked me, "Who owns those mountains?" And I said I didn't know; then he said that "if the BLM wants to do experiments on our mountains, they can go right ahead and do so." So much for that effort!
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 3:43 pm | #

I partially agree with the article written about Oakland and it's new cameras. After living in Oakland for just a couple months I have seen the violence and believe that there should be more surveillance in certain areas because people get away with murder all the fucking time around here and it is ridiculous.
Jake | 07.31.07 - 3:27 pm | #

Thank you Marjorie Kidman for your thoughts on that. I've really wondered WHY or HOW it was exactly he knows of a date, a real time date of when "this" all comes down.

So far, no real proof........just opinions and such. If I knew we really had 3 weeks left then we would all prepare. But if he knew for sure of a date, then he would back it up and that hasn't really happened. But power that is to "make" us think we have 19 days of freedom...........I'm always careful about that.
Peace | 07.31.07 - 3:23 pm | #

Excellent reminders and information Sane.

Your right, we would confuse the hell out of them all using a non-violent approach to them. I go so back and forth though..........if or when martial law is kicked in then most of our "things" available to us would be gone. If the military come in and bust down your door while you sleep and drag you off to the FEMA bus...........you know, what then? I truly wish I could just stay spiritual and positive about all of this but ..........*heavy sigh* I just don't or can't see how that will be possible.

Sorry, just got overwhelmed with so much of our reality and I'm not sure which is worse, KNOWING the truth and waiting for D-Day or not knowing the truth and being surprised by it all. My personality gets things done! I hate feeling as though my wheels are spinning in mud.

Hate that news about Rowe!
Peace | 07.31.07 - 2:54 pm | #
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It is times like this I am reminded of the scene in Starship Troopers [stolen from old war movies]:

"Do you maggots want to live forever?"

Or Mickey Rourke in one of the final scenes of Domino:

"It's a great day to die."
______________________________

god put us here for a reason....

AND IT AIN'T FUCKING SLAVERY!
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 3:04 pm | #

OK, LOOK, we have all asked you time and time again why in the hell, and where in the hell you come up with this countdown!!!!!!!!!!

You only provide a visual that was created and is NOT kept up to date so apparently it's not that important.

ALSO the websites you provide only give us PAST NEWS talk. THERE IS NO PROOF what so ever that we have 19 actual days left. NONE. We have said this to you over and over again. Just because a banner says 25 days till tranny doesn't mean crap.

The websites you provide are old news, same ol same ol. YOU have NOT provided an actual real link where the official news has been leaked that indeed the planned attack is on a certain date or time.

Have you? Have you? So what the fuck is up with your countdown????
Listen..... | 07.31.07 - 10:57 am | #
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My thoughts exactly. We may continually lose some more or all of our Constitution, but nothing traumatic will happen anytime real soon.

And I hate all this plethora of rhetoric being posted on this site that takes all day to look up the links and doesn't really tell you much. It's like it's a diversion to keep you from really becoming informed and more organized.

And nix to this "gun frenzy" and those that can't wait to get out there and "start killing." Their actions will surely bring about marshall law and the death of many of us. I think this is what the NWO is waiting for. ( For insurrection to break out so that they can legally go door-to-door and do with us what they will. I believe they will push and push us until they get us to that point.)
Marjorie Kidman | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 2:59 pm | #

GO ED GO!!!

ED THOMPSON IS THE BEST!
Galileo | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 2:51 pm | #

Ok, Cindy........we here you, we believe what you say........you have our attention.

HOW do you expect us to CHANGE that? Again, you can shout all you want about mind control but what good is it if you have NO solution. Same thing!
Peace | 07.31.07 - 2:48 pm | #

sane: G'day fellow traveler.

Re: Your MK-ULTRA stuff - did you know that the most recent 'official' diagnostic manual for psychologists, DSM-IV, was written by one of MK's most effective experimenters, Donald Ewen Cameron?

Bottom line - never act insane unless you really want to disappear into the matrix {
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Jefferson's Ghost | 07.31.07 - 2:33 pm | #
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yup no mental health professional can take a piss without the indoctrination of MK Ultra elites.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 2:48 pm | #

Oh, one more thing, I do thank Alex for starting this up, getting the info well known and being loud about it. BUT, lately I have felt as though he's leaving Korey Rowe out in the breeze while he goes home and drinks a beer. Sure he's proud to stand beside Rowe to have his picture taken, but where the hell was he when Rowe was arrested? Where the hell was his voice then? Why, now as things heat up, he's going over the same old shit news.........blah blah blah.

What the hell Jones?

Lastly, if your a true American and you want to truly protect the Americans then you don't CHARGE THEM mere cents to listen to the show!! Who cares if it's cheap............how bout not charging at all so we all get this "important" information. I mean really, whats the point charging us at all..........what the fuck? That right there Mr. Jones tells me that your in this for the money and to push others forward, like Rowe to take the heat for the very passionate truth movement that HAS BEGUN.

Come on Alex, come to man!! Stop charging us, allow us all the information and STAND BEHIND KOREY ROWE, help us out..........where the hell did you go?
Liberty | 07.31.07 - 2:46 pm | #

Alright no capitals
But you see, that fact that people, even when presented this information "SILL DISMISS IT"--is clearly a sign of mind control and programming!
That is what we need to break!
They need to understand they are under this influence.
CINDY | 07.31.07 - 2:23 pm | #
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Wow, now that post I can read.

OK, so we need to turn off the programming. Well first we need to know how maniacal the programming is. Because the people trying to release others from that programing will be met with sum fun friends...

Jefferson points out the fact that in order to be in the mental health profession in the US, you are first subjected to indoctrination into MK Ultra sanctioned materials.

I have more on this later, or just go to one of my old posts [these videos go into the child abduction/MK Ultra/Mind Control projects we do]:
http://www.haloscan.com/ comments...omments24#89320
http://www.haloscan.com/ comments...omments24#89307

Sun-Tzu...Know thy enemy more than he knows you.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 2:45 pm | #

The facts surrounding the "terrorism" of 9-11-01 may never reach the masses. We are all labeled as conspiracy theorists for thinking that people in "OUR" government would not seek to initiate an act of terrorism in order to justify war. As Smedley Butler said, "War is a racket..."

I am not afraid to die. I am, howwever, afraid of what our government will do to people that they disappear.

Peace!
Rey Hinckley | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 2:41 pm | #

"What good is all this information if it DOESN'T REGISTER to the people who need it most?
CINDY | 07.31.07 - 2:28 pm | # "

None. The only way now is to act for yourself - it's the only way now to wake people up.

Shove horrible BIG banners in front of live TV cameras.

Shove leaflets into the hands of those who make eye contact.

You might feel better if you went and joined a WeAreChange.org crew.

Historically, it has taken only 5% of a population to wake up for change to be effective. I'd say America has passed that but still hasn't figured how to come together.

Your call.

Oh and thanks for dropping the CAPs - I can actually read your stuff now.

Good luck; don't despair; above all, don't FEAR anything...
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Jefferson's Ghost | 07.31.07 - 2:40 pm | #

Wow, great stuff on Ghandhi Sane........I missed that one yesterday. How cool.....your a bit on the spiritual side too hey? Kick ass!!
Peace | 07.31.07 - 2:19 pm | #
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Non-violent resistence makes the elites go fucking cookoo. I read Gandhi's Gita:
http://members.aol.com/jajnsn/index.html
http://www.fculittle.org/ sermons...d_the_Gita.html

Lao-Tzu:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/tao/...m/tao/ taote.htm

Other Taoism Texts:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/tao/...m/tao/ index.htm
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And I wanted nothing more than non-violent resistance, but we have something in this country that Gandhi never had...the second amendment.

That is where Sun Tzu comes into play. If we ever dream of beating NWO we need to know every word of this. This is their gameplan and their rules. Not only know these like the back of your hand but think beyond them:
http://www.kimsoft.com/polwar.htm

For more on second amendment rights, take a look at ballot v. bullet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...h? v=CRNciryImqg

And go into the special ops of the black panthers [a group that was constitutionally protected under the second amenment and others].
http://video.google.com/ videopla...827501566616819
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h?v=axhhXJqJJ- U

Malcolm and the Panthers were so successful in police confrontation that COINTELPRO went into hyperspeed to deal with it.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 2:36 pm | #

What good is all this information if it DOESN'T REGISTER to the people who need it most?
CINDY | 07.31.07 - 2:28 pm | #

you go putin go tell the global elite to go fuck themselves and take back your countries.
wc | 07.31.07 - 2:22 pm | #

WHAT.......WAIT, WHAT THE FUCK??

Oh Nooooooooooooo, no no no, not Korey, those sons of bitchs..............they would kill him.

NO DAMMIT, what the hell, Korey like others are STRONG truth movers. This is NOT good, they are NOT going to let him go.........dammit, I'm pissed now!!
Peace | 07.31.07 - 2:21 pm | #

Wow, great stuff on Ghandhi Sane........I missed that one yesterday. How cool.....your a bit on the spiritual side too hey?

Kick ass!!
Peace | 07.31.07 - 2:19 pm | #

Korey Rowe Could Be Sent Back To Iraq
http://infowars.net/articles/jul.../ 310707Rowe.htm
Korey Rowe, one of the producers of the huge 9/11 truth film Loose Change, may be sent back into the heart of battle in Iraq within a month if he is officially returned to his unit according to a story run by the New York Daily Star today.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT????????????

They Want Another Pat Tillman!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 2:14 pm | #

Oh damn, I know, the stock market is so fucked up, wow! Funny cause "most" who are reporting it are just SHOCKED and.......we all knew it was coming. This is just one of the MANY things to happen as the power shifts and the EU leaders, including bush, start to "take over"

This goes far beyond 9/11, far beyond Waco, far beyond illegal immigrants, far beyond global warming. Those, among many others, is what the mainstream media is TOLD to program most Americans with so they are not aware of the REAL news happening.

I wish all Americans knew the truth like we do. Could you imagine how upset and angry everyone would become. WE would have OUR American military Thus, starts the civil war on bush. That's why I don't fault those who say, "what........I didn't hear about THAT on the evening news!" No, of course you wouldn't. The number of citizens out there who do not know the truth, even some of it, is SO LARGE AND VAST that even when we come to them WITH the truth, they want to bash our heads in for daring to say such a thing. Even after you show them the proof, the dismiss it........"poof" just like that.

Brain/Mind control perhaps. Yikes
Peace | 07.31.07 - 2:12 pm | #

SANE
I'M NOT YELLING, IT'S CALLED INTENSITY! (I ALWAYS USE CAPITAL'S IT'S EASIER TO READ)
PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THIS INFORMATION VERY EASILY--I'M JUST POINTING OUT WHAT THEY NEED TO BE LOOKING FOR!
IF YOUR UNAWARE THAT YOUR UNDER MIND CONTROL, HOW CAN YOU STOP IT!
CINDY | 07.31.07 - 2:06 pm |
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Please read these on blog etiquitte

Draw Conclusions On The Wall » Blog Archive » Email etiquette ...Until about 2 years ago, I was unaware that there is an email etiquette rule that says USING ALL CAPS MAKES IT LOOK LIKE YOU’RE SHOUTING! ...
http://dsquared22.com/blog/2007/...ette-questions/ - 33k - Cached - Similar pages

BlogsBlog Etiquette Guidelines:. 1. The Blog is a valuable resource provided through SBATSR and it is the ... Avoid using all capital letters in your messages. ...
http://www.sbatsr.org/community/...nity/ blogs.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 2:10 pm | #

I was reading this post and realized,I am the same way!!
I hardly ever check my e-mail these days, I find myself at PP and other like-minded sites and then in here!!

Too Funny Sane!!!

plus my e-
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 07.31.07 - 2:03 pm | #
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yeah these blogs are better then voxfux's email bomb idea. everyone i know gets the full texts of all these pages.

it has a much more powerfuul effect than one of the 1,000 emails they get a week and the searching is easier.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 2:07 pm | #

Sane, You and I need to swap email address somehow without this board. Your my speed and more concerned about facts than fighting on this board. I really like your style........let's slam out these websites and keep the info coming.
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:31 pm |

if you want to post it, i'll email you in a few days. but just to let you know, I am on this board uver 50x more than I am on email.

[i know everyone, it must be hard to believe]
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 1:37 pm | #

HAHAHA! You nut!!

I was reading this post and realized,I am the same way!!
I hardly ever check my e-mail these days, I find myself at PP and other like-minded sites and then in here!!

Too Funny Sane!!!

plus my e-
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 07.31.07 - 2:03 pm | #

It's Offical: The Dow Jones Pwnd by Rupert Murdoch!
http://www.reuters.com/article/ o...ow_accepts_deal
According to Reuters Reports & MSN market Dispatch, The Bancroft Family has accepted Rupert Murdoch and News Corporation's $5 Billion bid for the Dow Jones companies and venerated news brands including The Wall Street Journal, Barron's, and More.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ o...ow_accepts_deal
http:// articles.moneycentral.msn...731markets.aspx
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CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION TO THE WSJ AND THE WSJONLINE
http://www.thesocialbookmarker.c...et- journal.html
They are now in full control of NWO and will be used to enslave all citizens.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 2:02 pm | #

Cindy,

Yes dear friend, trust me, we all know about the mind control thing and on many different levels. That's why I just laugh when kids on here say "I'll get my gun and shoot them!" Ya, no they won't since they'll be blank like a zombie OR doubled over in pain due to the ELF/GWEN towers which are being put up at an alarming rate!!

Those flat panels are now found on buildings, telephone posts, on roofs, on electrical towers wrapped around it like a damn belt. We know, mind control is a very serious thing and rather hard to fight so educate yourself, learn how to control your own brain via self hypnosis. It's easy to learn and you can put yourself into a trance and block out the governments waves. Either that or wrap your head in tin foil...that does work, looks odd but it keeps the rays out. By the way, when you type in all caps, it sounds like your yelling and your angry. Can you kick it down a notch please

Thank you
Peace | 07.31.07 - 2:01 pm | #

Sane, what a website!!

The Coming American Reichstag Fire

July 30, 2007
by Phil Rockstroh

Comments | Trackback
In this summer of angst and grim foreboding about what further assaults against common sense and common decency the Bush Administration might inflict upon the people of the world, how many times during the day do those of us -- still possessed of mind, heart and conscience -- take pause, hoping we've seen the worst of it, then, fearing we haven't yet, attempt to push down the dread rising within us, so that we might simply make it through the day and be able to rest at night?

Accordingly, those who have been paying attention are aware that the outward mechanisms of martial law are in place. We shudder knowing that Bush has issued an executive decree that grants him dictatorial power in the event of some nebulously defined national emergency. In addition, the knowledge nettles us that a vast network of internment camps bristle across the length of the U.S., standing at wait for those who might raise objections to the fascistic fury unloosed by the American empire's version of the Reichstag fire.

Moreover, a closer look would reveal that the inner processes by which an individual begins the act of acceptance of authoritarian excess -- the mixture of chronic passivity, boredom, low grade anxiety and unfocused rage inherent in the citizens/consumers of the corporate state that primes an individual for fascism -- have been in place for quite some time within the psyches of the American populace, both elites and hoi polloi alike. Although, don't look for torch-lit processions thronging the nation's streets and boulevards; rather, look for a Nuremberg Rally of couch-bound brownshirts.

Instead of ogling the serried ranks of jut-jawed, SS soldiers, a contemporary Leni Riefenstahl would be forced to film chubby clusters of double-chinned consumers, saluting the new order with their TV remotes. In the contemporary United States, the elation induced by the immersion of one's individual will to the mindless intoxication of the mob might only be possible, if Bush seized dictatorial control of the state while simultaneously sending out to all citizens gift certificates to Ikea.

After the catastrophes spawned by the rise of European fascism in the 1930s, a number of brilliant, original thinkers (including Hannah Arendt, Roberto Freire, Wilhelm Reich, and R. D. Laing) set out to study the phenomenon in order to learn how future calamities might be prevented. Although the methodologies and conclusions of these thinkers varied, each noted that alienation and dehumanization festered at the core of the death urge of fascism.

Nowadays, in contrast, the elites of the corporate media have proven themselves useless in this regard, believing, as they do, they constitute the thin line between the rabble at large (me and you) and the chaos begot by freedom. At present, mega-churches attract alienated suburbanites. Right wing talk show hosts misdirect their listeners alienation towards so-called illegal "aliens" and exploit their audience's sense of powerlessness (created by the rigged system of corporate capitalism) against elitist liberals (who themselves, ironically, benefit from the present system and who only want to change it to the degree that their own privilege will not be affected. In other words, not at all).

Combine the above with the American character trait of being hostile towards introspection and it becomes evident that the present disaster has been building for quite a while now. And it can (and most likely will) get worse -- far worse.

Most Americans alive today have been trained since birth to adapt to and serve the corrupt corporate structure by means of the shunning of critical thinking and have been conditioned to be in constant (empty) motion or in the thrall of mass media distraction. We have been taught that passivity is for losers, yet we find ourselves nearly powerless before the corporate/consumer/military/police/entertainment state. In this way, we serve our corporate masters; it serves the corpocracy that the lower orders refuse meaningful self-awareness. If one were to glimpse one's own illusions, then it follows one might begin to question collective delusions -- and this would upset the social order.

Those who have studied the dangers of authoritarian rule have advised us to be wary of people who carry an inner emptiness. Of course, these unfortunates yearn for the void to be filled. But with their hearts and minds mortared closed -- what makes it through the self-constructed prison is loud, stupid, and fascistic. At present, what penetrates is: Fundamentalist Sermons on Armageddon; violent video games; the empty spectacle of steroid-induced professional sports hype; the lethal fantasies of American exceptionalism; the exercise in Rock and Roll imperialism that U.S. foreign policy has become. In short, all the banal Sturm and Drang necessary to pierce those protective walls and penetrate the pervasive inner emptiness.

When the people of a culture have been conditioned to worship power -- but feel powerless -- there's trouble ahead. The elites must displace the public's rage by a demagogic sleight-of-hand such as the demonization of marginalized groups. In the US, we've been inundated by years of state and commercial propaganda that has degraded and demonized the country's permanent underclass by the labeling of them as welfare parasites and career criminals.

It has been noted that the mindset, methods, and procedures of America's punitive, profit-driven prison-industrial complex was a prototype for the systemic cruelty of Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib; furthermore, it is a given that those institutional affronts to human decency will have served as prototypes for the methods and procedures that will be practiced upon those who are swept-up in the purges and detainment mania following the declaration of martial law in the United States.

We push this knowledge away from us, fearing we will be paralyzed by its crushing implications. Worse, what is nearly impossible to admit is, most likely, the system crushed us long ago. Apropos, R. D. Laing averred that being able to adapt and function within an insane, authoritarian system renders one for all practical purposes insane -- only insane in a manner acceptable to a power mad ruling elite.
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:56 pm | #

TO SANE
NO I'M NOT SUE'S SISTER
I'M JUST AN INFORMED AMERICAN WHO HAS BROKEN MY PROGRAMMING!!
IF PEOPLE ARE UNAWARE OF THIS MIND CONTROL, THEY DON'T REALIZE WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING!!
THEY MUST "BREAK" THE PROGRAMMING!!!
WE NEED TO MAKE THIS CLEAR TO THEM!!
IT CAN AND MUST BE BROKEN!!
CINDY | 07.31.07 - 1:46 pm | #
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if you keep shouting and using exclamation marks without posting some information that could actually hep people diffuse the power of the mind control THEN HOW IS THAT HELPING!?!?!?!?!?

But if you just woke up and want to yell at the top of your lungs, I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore, then we will give you a full week to do it to your hearts content, see this video for how to really feel it in your gut [Colbert's interpretation of gut, not sanjay gupta's]:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h?v=dib2- HBsF08

sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 1:55 pm | #

SANE,

You KNOW I LOVE it when you slam out all those links. Dear God child........ I've said it before and I'll say it again, keep it coming darlin!! Excellent work.........your fast too, perfect. I'm so glad your back!
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:38 pm | #
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OK here is some info that everyone needs to know...

Hillary Clinton's connection to MK Ultra/OK City/Waco/Ruby Ridge...

just look up a company called IGI and Larry Potts and MK Ultra:
DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTONGottlieb was called out of retirement to explain MK-ULTRA's role in ..... Former FBI official Larry Potts (of Ruby Ridge fame), who's now an IGI executive. ...
http://www.alamo-girl.com/02742.htm - 121k - Cached - Similar pages
CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:Among those employed by Lenzner and IGI is LARRY POTTS. ... Though the super-secret MK-ULTRA was ended in 1964, a streamlined version called MK-SEARCH was ...
http://www.alamo-girl.com/0315.htm - Similar pages
Downside Legacy on Secret Police [Free Republic]Strangelove -- a brilliant chemist who headed MK-ULTRA, the agency's ..... Former FBI official Larry Potts (of Ruby Ridge fame), who's now an IGI executive. ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/ foru...7fd259069d7.htm - 132k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
Many Books Warn of Bush - Another winner from the Charleston ...Among those employed by Lenzner and IGI is LARRY POTTS. ... He testified as Joseph Scheider, but revealed his true name in later hearings on MK-ULTRA……" ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/1175832/ posts - 37k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING CASE REVELATIONSFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
Larry Potts, Howard Shapiro, Terry Lenzner, and Clinton with the OKC ...... Lenzner worked for the CIA to defend MK ULTRA in lawsuits brought by the US ...
http://www.devvy.com/briley/ OKC_...Revelations.pdf - Similar pages
LP: Muslim Extremist Leader Suspected in US Attacks Tied To Former ...Lenzner worked for the CIA to defend MK ULTRA in lawsuits brought by the US Senate; ... Larry Potts to be VP of Lenzner’s private investigating firm, IGI. ...
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...i? ArtNum=182132 - 35k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING CASE REVELATIONSFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Larry Potts, Howard Shapiro, Terry Lenzner, and Clinton with the OKC bombing ..... A secret fund for MK-ULTRA was set up by the CIA to finance the drug and ...
http://www.okc903.com/Revelations.pdf - Similar pages

Clinton's Black Ops Company IGI and Microsoft hijacking of the entire OS for Illuminati:
DataShaping - Click Fraud Detection, Data Mining, Analytical JobsCharts and Statistical Analysis in Excel (2003) Published by IGI Development ... known as SPSS, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft PowerPoint and Microsoft Word. ...
http://www.datashaping.com/ resum...umes14001.shtml - 16k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] Basr_149 501..511File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
Also in a press release, Microsoft responded to the Oracle/IGI ... fraud (and buying or receiving secrets so obtained) a U.S. federal ...
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com...1467- 8594.00149 - Similar pages
[PDF] Corporate Espionage and Workplace Trust/DistrustFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
to possible deception, fraud, and embezzlement. (Cressy, 1953; Granovetter, 1985; Shapiro, 1987, ..... antitrust case against Microsoft. IGI’s detective ...
http://www.springerlink.com/ inde...89851262T31.pdf - Similar pages
Reason Magazine - Bill's And Larry's Continued Political MisadventuresIGI, as The Wall Street Journal reported, "promptly went trash-hunting" - literally ... put it well: "The government's case against Microsoft has been about ...
http://www.reason.com/news/show/...show/ 36047.html - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
James K. GlassmanIGI, as The Wall Street Journal reported, “promptly went trash-hunting” ... Clinton also pardoned a cocaine trafficker and a notorious fraud artist, ...
http:// www.jewishworldreview.com...ssman030101.asp - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
Internet Security News: [ISN] Dumpster Diving - No firewall helpsfrom the Washington offices of a company associated with Microsoft. ... someone such as IGI to see what they dig up. (Make sure you retain ...
http://www.landfield.com/isn/mai...0/Jul/ 0040.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
Forget the firewall; guard your garbage against 'Dumpster diving ...Days later, a break-in occurred at Microsoft offices in the area in what may ... to be a shell company operated by Investigative Group International (IGI), ...
http://www.infoworld.com/ article...03opswatch.html - Similar pages
SBI - Smith Brandon International, Inc.Mr Nardello, whose experience includes fraud and organised crime ... Despite having about 85 full-time investigators, IGI has yet to gain wide international ...
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sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 1:50 pm | #

I hear ya Sane.......I've got to copy all of these links you provided on this page before they all go "poof"

I'm glad your on our team
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:45 pm | #

American's are CLEARLY UNDER MIND CONTROL AND PROGRAMMING!!
9/11 WAS WITHOUT A DOUBT AN "INSIDE JOB!!
Those of us who have BROKEN THE PROGRAMMING MUST REACH THE OTHER'S, AND "BREAK" THE MIND CONTROL AND PROGRAMMING!
Let them know--- this is happening to them,--it will literialy break it!
I believe that the words "MIND CONTROL & PROGRAMMING ARE "TRIGGER WORDS" THAT IN FACT HELP TO BREAK THE MIND CONTROL!!
TRY IT AND SEE IF YOU CAN REACH THEM!!!
CINDY | 07.31.07 - 1:35 pm | #

are you sue's sister?
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 1:38 pm | #

So that's where my retirement funds went too. Can someone please arrest bush, second thought, kick his damn ass back to Texas!!!

Build More Ships Or Hire More Lawyers?
http://www.usasurvival.org/ ck07....k07.25.07.shtml

Is fucking crazy.............oh yeah, he IS!! Global.......this picture is much much bigger than any of us truly know. The news we see is like watching a play, it's already scripted out. The G-8 summit......no talk of peace, talk of global domination and how all of the 10 leaders of the world are coming together to make it happen. Didn't y'all find it odd that Putin was angry at bush for wanting to build a missle defense base in Russia..........BUT one month later stayed with bush at his place and went FISHING for 3 days???

Right........does he really think we're that stupid. Clearly the talk of world take over was happening. We SEE it happening all around us that's why this "war" in Iraq really isn't a war. It's about the global take-over and to shoot anyone who gets in the way!

Crazy world!!!
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:36 pm | #

What the hell???

The U.S.-U.N. Deal:
Save Iraq and the U.S. Will Push for a Palestinian State
On July 17, the same day that Bush met with U.N. Boss Ban Ki-moon and Ban agreed to push for a larger U.N. role in Iraq, Ban said that he welcomed the statement made by Bush on the Middle East peace process and "is encouraged by the President's renewed commitment to a two-State solution, entailing the creation of a viable and contiguous Palestinian State living side by side with a secure Israel." Ban Ki-moon "also welcomed the President's proposal for an international meeting this autumn," a U.N. statement said.

The "war in Iraq" never happened for the REASON we were told. This is on a much larger scale, world domination and Bush is building UP systems over seas. What about America dick-fuck? How about protecting the ones you were sworn to protect?? What the fuck.........this is total insane crazy...........world wide.

Global Domination
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:23 pm | #
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Look into maritime law to find out even more disturbing sell out info:

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sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 1:33 pm | #

UN Labels on US Parks
U.N. designations such as "World Heritage Site" and "Biosphere Reserve" are being placed on dozens of U.S parks and monuments, including Independence Hall, the Statue of Liberty and Yellowstone National Park. At Mt. Mitchell State Park in North Carolina (pictured here), a sign leading into the park designated it as a U.N. Biosphere Reserve. When citizens protested, the words "United Nations" were taken off the sign and "international" was put in its place, to make it seem less ominous. But if all of this is so innocent, why were the words "United Nations" taken off? Is it not possible for federal and U.N. officials to explain the role of the U.N. in these parks and sites?

Some experts believe that these international designations are part of a process by which the U.N., working with federal agencies, is moving to restrict access to enormous areas of U.S. territory, for the purpose of safeguarding the natural resources, including plants, animals and things, that are the province of "Gaia," the earth spirit.

Sane, You and I need to swap email address somehow without this board. Your my speed and more concerned about facts than fighting on this board. I really like your style........let's slam out these websites and keep the info coming.
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:31 pm | #

If the const is only a god damned piece of paper, so is any executive order. So is a gun permit and drivers license, We no longer need to ask permission to do anything, Pelosi you are now free to go back to California, do not stop to collect 200 leave and go back to being a grand ma and war profiteer.
Rush to War | 07.31.07 - 1:26 pm | #

Key language in Levin-Reed amendment: "… the President shall direct the United States Permanent Representative to the United Nations to use the voice, vote, and influence of the United States at the United Nations to seek the appointment of an international mediator in Iraq, under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, who has the authority of the international community to engage political, religious, ethnic, and tribal leaders in Iraq in an inclusive political process.
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:25 pm | #

oops, last two anons were me
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 1:23 pm | #

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More | 07.31.07 - 1:18 pm | #

Now that is some worthwile posting, please keep it up.

wizards, we need to know all the wizards before the next false flag.
Anonymous | 07.31.07 - 1:21 pm | #

Americans Reject U.N. as Threat to U.S. Sovereignty While Bush Seeks Expanded U.N. role in Iraq

WASHINGTON, July 23 (UPI) -- The United Nations is seen as a bloated bureaucracy that has reduced influence in world matters, U.S. participants in a UPI-Zogby International poll said…U.S. residents who took part in a July 13-16 Zogby interactive poll indicated a low view of the United Nations. More than half -- 52.8 percent -- said the United Nations "has been reduced in its influence and is less relevant in global matters."Some 54.3 percent of those asked said the United Nations was a "bloated bureaucracy that weakens U.S. sovereignty and costs taxpayers too much."
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:20 pm | #

Thanks Peace, most of my posts today are here:

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...aderComments57/
Anonymous | 07.31.07 - 1:20 pm | #

http://www.usasurvival.org
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:19 pm | #

COE - Council of Europe

Secretary General: Terry Davis

Political Party: Labour Party ( A socialist party although now they hide the “socialist from there name.)

Country: Britain
Political Origin: Chairperson of the Socialist Group

Note: Terry Davis is from Britain; Britain is not a member of the OSCE but is one of the Big Ten in the center.

NATO

Secretary General of NATO - Jaap de Hoop Scheffer

Political Party Origin D’66 Party, a radical left wing social-liberal party formed in the Netherlands in 1966

Japp then jumped to the Christen-Democratisch Appèl (Wiki Link) Which appears to have morphed into a socialist party to stay alive.

Became the Head of the Christen-Democratch Appel in 1998.

OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe)

Miguel Ángel Moratinos Cuyaubé

Country: Spain

Political Party: PSOE (The Spanish Socialist Party, the same party as Solana and Zaptero is linked to.) Note: Spain is not even an OSCE member but is run by a Spanish Socialist, Spain however is one of the Big Ten in the middle.

WEU (Western European Union)

Secretary General: Dr. Javier Solana Madariaga (Of course)
Political Party: PSOE, Spanish Socialist Party

EU Commission Head

José Manuel Durão Barroso (Wiki Link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos...%C3% A3o_Barroso )
Country: Portugal

Political Origin: Leader of the Underground Maoist MRPP ( Socialist Party), then PCTP/MRPP-Communist Party, then to the latest party Social Democratic Party

UN (United Nations)

Secretary-General: Ban Ki Moon
Political Party: ???
Religion: Moonie or Unification Church (An all inclusive religion similar to Unitarians)

The AOC was not listed as a “Circle of Power”

But is headed by: José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero
County: Spain
Political Party: PSOE Spanish Socialist Party

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More | 07.31.07 - 1:18 pm | #

Who are you talking to? By the way what does that actually mean? I have heard it before!
9-11 truther | 07.31.07 - 6:16 am | #

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Fuck me, you haven't seen Matrix?
I think GAK posted a link to the scene on u- tube yesterday.........
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 1:17 pm | #

Nice to have you back Sane
Peace | 07.31.07 - 1:15 pm | #

This brings us to something I might share. Sometimes I'm asked how I understand the coming antichrist's rule -- if I think it will be the same world-wide. If what we now see forming in Europe is the beginning of the antichrist's kingdom, then the power he could wield might be explained by circles within circles. The inner circles could be where his power would be the greatest. The outer circles could be where his power the weakest. Recently a member of our discussion board posted the following image from NATO's Website. It revealed what it was I was trying to describe perfectly. Notice, at the very center of power, we find the 10-nation Western European Union. The outer reaches of power would reside in the United Nations

The really interesting thing for me is, at the center of this power we find the Western European Union's Recommendation 666. If you recall, this document recommends to the Council of the European Union that their High Representative be given emergency powers. Now, here's my question: If the U.S. withdraws from Iraq in 2009 as expected, what happens if the doomsday predictions come true -- the entire Middle East region explodes into sectarian chaos?

The bottom line is, I believe there could be places where the coming antichrist's circles of power won't completely reach

If what we now see forming in Europe is the beginning of the antichrist's kingdom, then the power he could wield might be explained by circles within circles. The inner circles could be where his power would be the greatest. The outer circles could be where his power the weakest. Recently a member of our discussion board posted the following image from NATO's Website. It revealed what it was I was trying to describe perfectly. Notice, at the very center of power, we find the 10-nation Western European Union. The outer reaches of power would reside in the United Nations. The really interesting thing for me is, at the center of this power we find the Western European Union's Recommendation 666. If you recall, this document recommends to the Council of the European Union that their High Representative be given emergency powers. Now, here's my question: If the U.S. withdraws from Iraq in 2009 as expected, what happens if the doomsday predictions come true -- the entire Middle East region explodes into sectarian chaos?
Hmmm | 07.31.07 - 1:14 pm | #

In the last few weeks, as the dreadful consequences of George W. Bush's "war on terror" continue to unfold in Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Palestine, a disturbing thought is rising to the surface: There may be no way to clean up the mess he has made.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 8:26 am | #

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Until the return of Christ, I think this is an understatement.
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 12:31 pm | #
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I think I will never forget Pat Tillman's words:

"This War Is So Fucking Illegal"

Nothing like the killing of over 1,000,000 people to wake people up.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 1:12 pm | #

Repeats, I just have to say this for the millioneth time.
The bullet that killed JFK, mortaly wounded America.
911 buried it.
These sheiky little gangsters have been at it since they killed Kennedy, or perhaps before.
God help the next generation.
What gets me so frustrated, the majority do not see it. 800,000 innocents killed, 10,000 troops in the Middle East, and not a squek, whatever happened to concience. Looks like this will be one fruk of a lesson. ( not directed to you folks, i speak of the silent majority)!!
chris jones | 07.31.07 - 11:28 am | #
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I would agree entirely with this. What has happened is that GWB's Iraq plan [which I have to believe was positioned as ....

"Let georgie have his little war"

Was not in the worldwide plan, there is no way. Nothing has woken people up more than the Iraq War.

I would never have dreamed of questioning the official 911 report if it was not for the Iraq war and the obvious manipulation and suppression of evidence.

So maybe GWB will prove to be the most instrumental president at demolishing the NWO. Not on purpose he has been drunk with power for so long he has no idea what millenium we are in.

similar to Hitler's final days.
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 1:08 pm | #

http://www.nato.int

THIS is the big picture!!
Rulers! | 07.31.07 - 1:06 pm | #

Most of us here are fully aware that bush and his admin blew up the WTC. It's absolutely horrid to think and now know that as his hand was on the Bible, claiming to protect the Americans at all cost, he/all already had the plan in motion to blow up the WTC and on purpose create and program "terror" into our heads so we give him the ok to "go get 'em".

Now........we all know the truth which is an excellent thing BUT makes him all the more dangerous because he's that animal being backed into the corner as we all come at him, while we still can.

I'm just as upset about 9/11 and the facts that cannot be argued but...........has anybody even wondered what happened to the 2 planes full of Americans which did NOT CRASH, DID NOT GO INTO THE TOWER. Where are they? Who has them? What are they doing to them?

Where did those live passengers go!!! They are still alive............I think we all can assume what's been done to them and with them. Same thing for the "missing" 3,000 victims of Katrina. They were told to get on the FEMA buses and they would be taken to safe haven. Has anyone heard from them in 2 years? Nope...........missing, vanished.

I think it is sad and horrid in thought to know that the government is "practicing" on those civilians, perfecting their techniques so when all hell breaks loose, they know exactly what to do to us to sudate us, keep us calm and obeying them, even if we chose not to.

Their experiment research is trully alarming and insane. It makes Hitler and Stalin look rather good compared to what's being done now. There is just so much ground to cover on every level about this fake admin, president and the european union because they ARE all in this together.

One world government. They aren't getting together to talk about peace, peace my ass, they're perfecting the plan of attack on all humans.
????? | 07.31.07 - 1:00 pm | #

like why did Cheney give the stand down order, or why did bush keep reading a book about a goat at the moment of this country's greatest threat?
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 7:22 am | #

Sorry, he wasn't even reading, the book was upside down.........
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 12:51 pm | #

Get yourself a pyrometer or high temperature
thermocouple and measure the temperature of
still air fire fed by kerosene (jet fuel) where the
only source of oxygen is from the open air at
normal 101.3 kPa (absolute) or 1 atm air pressure.
Put the sensor inside the hottest (blue) parts of
the fire, or wherever you like, and see just how
really HOT an open-air fire truly is. Then compare
this temperature to the 1532 C melting point
temperature for iron (steel), the point when you
start seeing liquid molten metal flowing, just like
what you see in the ABC News videos & amateur
videos, showing MOLTEN METAL pouring out of
the South Tower, just minutes before its total
and complete free-fall collapse.

Watch the molten yellow steel dripping out of the
South Tower, and ask yourself... how can a low
temperature air fire produce MOLTEN STEEL???

http://www.youtube.com/results?s...c& search=Search

This is the smoking gun of 9/11, along with WTC 7.

Keep advertising these facts.
Angry American | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 12:46 pm | #

Demand for Organic Milk Growing; Consumers are Willing to Pay the $$$
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar...ar...GANIC.TMP& tsp=1
"Consumers want not only to know that milk is USDA-certified organic, but it's just as important to them to know how animals are treated, how farms are being compensated, how land that produces the product is being managed, and that the product is highest quality.''
sane | Homepage | 07.31.07 - 8:21 am | #

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Therewas thing on Discovery or somewhere about the farms using bovine grouth hormone for dairy animals.
Information showed animals produce more milk, driving the price down, also that 1 of 4 teets get infected, this puss goes into the milk, the milk is treated with chlorine to kill the bacteria to keep the bacteria count down. The bacteria are not counted dead, to pass inspection. You are drinking bacteria shit (toxins that will make you ill/unhealthy). Stupid asses. I bought a half gallon of milk, at Hi-Vee recently. Organic, think it was more than a gallons price.
it was tasty and didn't give me an upset stomach as does most milk these days. Reminded me of the pure, whole milk I used to get for $2 a gallon from Menonite farms in central Kansas. Good stuff. My wife even made home made ice cream for our family a couple times. Beats the heck out of even stuff like Bryers ice cream.
Stupid farmers use hormones to increase production to make more money but the gluttany of milk drives the price down.......and you get a shitty unhealthy product i can't hardly drink anymore. I've been considering taking milk out of my diet. Eggs too, same problem.....Can't hardly eat eggs anymore from upset stomach all day.....
steroids and antibiotics.......and shit for food to the chickens instead of bugs.
Henry Bowman | 07.31.07 - 12:43 pm | #

Keep pushing 9/11 Truth and JUSTICE... bring
justice to the guilty and the victims families...

NOTE: Melting temperature of iron/steel is 1532 C
or about 2800 F. Burning temperature of fuel in
1 atmosphere air pressure (101.3 kPa) = 451 F =
Fahrenheit 451 = 233 C, not even enough to
start softening steel, which loses a small amount
of strength starting at 300 C. At about 650 C,
steel is half of its top strength. At 1100 C, steel
is at about 10% of its top strength. Jet fuel air
fires do not burn hotter than 250 C, so how could
all that structural steel in the Twin Towers, and
the 3rd building, Building 7, all behave like they
were as weak as air, to allow free-fall collapse
times?

Keep pushing 9/11 Science, and the brainwashed
minority who still support Dirty Dick & Smelly Bush,
will wake up to their own stupidity, and realize
what a tragic, stupid mistake they made in giving
their support to war criminals and lying mass
murderers and war profiteers...

Promote movies like 9/11 Mysteries and Loose
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