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Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 11:42 pm | #
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Why in hell don't you just run Linux?
Install an independent Linux OS and you have no problems.
Fuck Win-doze!
Anonymous | 08.09.07 - 11:06 am | #

you can read descriptions at the pages before grabbing em up, all good stuff tho.

Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 11:42 pm |
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I see. Let me ask you then , what would be the safety of using hushmail , assuming I had all of the above neccessities installed as well. Also - Is Scroogle a good thing in your opinion ?
You KNOW I value your opinion ST.
(Can we go to 59 ? so much less load time in my opinion )
ty ST !
kells | 08.09.07 - 12:11 am | #

Anon was me again. I have only heard alex three times in the past 6-8 weeks because of trouble with windows media. So I missed his reference. I hear you Oldman, with the new free-for-all spying powers every part of our lives is fair game.
Is there a way to hide an IP ? Someone suggested using Scroogle a while back. THere must be something out there that isn't too complicated.
Also , aren't they already able to track everyone who is here ?
kells | 08.08.07 - 11:25 pm | #

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yes tracking has been in full effect for a long while now.. but looking for a proxy server you can trust is "fun" too. many are set up and monitored, just to be looking for people thinking theyre smart in trying to hide!

this a list of what I consider essentials for any online pc:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/ Sec...ScripTrap.shtml
-behaves like a firewall pops up warning to unknown script.

http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/
-firewall supplement to help block unwanted communications

http://www.softpedia.com/get/ Twe...RegSeeker.shtml
-removes registry orphans and helps a pc's performance
-can clear entried from index.dat in IE temp files

http://www.softpedia.com/progDow...load- 52111.html
-free fully functional for 30 days antispy

http://www.softpedia.com/get/ Int...tiSpyware.shtml
-free version antispyware

http://www.softpedia.com/progDow...nload- 6858.html
-free GOOD antivirus program (mcaffee and norton are junk)

http://www.softpedia.com/progDow...nload- 6199.html
-tabbed browser with great security features, activeX and popup/under blocking

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Sec...- Firewall.shtml
-free fully pro version firewall

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Sec...- Firewall.shtml
-another firewall, but can run on win98/ME

-you can read descriptions at the pages before grabbing em up, all good stuff tho.

Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 11:42 pm | #

I never heard Alex refer to the reader comments section during any of his shows. I don't think he is concerned about it one way or another
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 11:40 pm | #
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Yea he said over a month ago that he was starting one of his own.
He has had it for quite a while now.
I am not going to register for any web site.
It's not that I don't trust Alex, I do, I don't trust the Gov.
Oldman. | 08.08.07 - 4:02 pm |
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Anon was me again. I have only heard alex three times in the past 6-8 weeks because of trouble with windows media. So I missed his reference. I hear you Oldman, with the new free-for-all spying powers every part of our lives is fair game.
Is there a way to hide an IP ? Someone suggested using Scroogle a while back. THere must be something out there that isn't too complicated.
Also , aren't they already able to track everyone who is here ?
kells | 08.08.07 - 11:25 pm | #

KELLS !!
a good friend made the suggestion to open an e-mail account at hushmail.com
they dont ask jack squat for ID info.
Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 7:02 am |
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Perfect. You made my day.
Anonymous | 08.08.07 - 11:06 am | #
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Yea, but they still have your IP address.
And we all know what Bush does, the Bastard.
Oldman. | 08.08.07 - 4:04 pm | #

KELLS !!
a good friend made the suggestion to open an e-mail account at hushmail.com
they dont ask jack squat for ID info.
Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 7:02 am | #

Anonymous was me Sees Things, sorry.
kells | 08.07.07 - 11:48 pm | #

whats this ? SPOOK.COM ?
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:50 pm
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This board seems to have lost its party doesn't it ?
I am probably not going to do the register thing either.
I never heard Alex refer to the reader comments section during any of his shows. I don't think he is concerned about it one way or another. It is just a service for us that he provides.
I'm going to miss you sees things. You really are able to see into the ''how'' of nwo plans. You really do see things that wouldn't make sense to me until you explain it.I appreciate that about you . You connect the dots with seemingly no effort and explain it for those of us who are newer at this thing, and don't quite understand it all.
So many others have just stopped posting, I will miss them too. Maybe they couldn't get back to it after PP took away the Comments link.
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 11:40 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...807_b_names.htm

whats this ? SPOOK.COM ?
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:50 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...b_Globalist.htm

liars liars everywhere.. tony snow too.
get to the bottom of the page and its all about registering to be able to type anything in the forums. must be valid e-mail address etc etc.
sorry folks but if alex jones has gone big brother I'm outta here.
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:39 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti..._b_Giuliani.htm

hell, I hope ghoul-iani does beat hitlery, with a lead pipe very hard, then he can be locked up for the murder and it'd be 2 down.
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:26 pm | #

http://infowars.net/articles/ aug...070807Power.htm

and congress a buncha idiots for not arresting this criminal.
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Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:12 pm | #

We need people to sit at their computers at the poll sites when the debate starts, then perform a printscreen function & save every 5 minutes or so, so the public will have the 'evidence' of any poll tampering!
Mark Matthews | 08.07.07 - 7:01 pm | #

Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 10:41 am | #
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Sorry, I forgot that dial up still existed. I will only post new stuff and any general news stuff on 59 since it only has one post right now.

Just keep in mind the reason that 60 is so long is because it has been used for like 7 days, when usually a numbered thread is only up for half a day. There seems to have been an issue with the linking from the articles and this caused a long time on that thread. Also others and myself got hit with at least 100 false flag blog posts.

Thanks for letting me know that my actions may be causing an undesired affect.

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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:09 pm | #
From http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=15738#121730
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:12 pm | #

Alex is on.........
http://infowars.com/listen.html
Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 12:17 pm | #

Sane, and others.
You should keep in mind people who do not have high speed internet will not stay and join in conversation. We've been on page 60 for what, 3 or 4 days now?
My internet is pretty good, but I'm geussing the full page of #60 is something like 67 feet long now.
Some poor bastard with dialup will have to wait for about 5 hours just for the page to load. It will not load completely for me this morning.
Waiting forever for the page to load, then being reluctant to join in because it'll have to load again.......another 5 hours....ain't gonna happen for most people. While the voluminous posts you give are informative, they are not conducive to a community of discussion. Everyone is leaving to go where they can be involved in conversation, on a page that isn't 67 feet long, without 90 % of the page consumed by one individual who fills the page with info no-one has time or the inclination to read in the first place.
Sane, we love ya, but you're killing this forum.
Michael D.
Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 10:41 am | #

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Copied from page 61, been trying to get 60 to load all morning, this is the first time it loaded completely, allowing a comment.........
Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 12:16 pm | #

Reichstag 911
1 hr 59 min - Jul 8, 2007 - (89 ratings)
Political documentary focusing on terror attacks and their effects on the populations which suffer from them.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...146227169989321
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 5:04 am | #

Not sure, but I am kind of following this philosophy tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=58CJih1iYC0
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:41 am | #

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One of my favorites!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:48 am | #

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If this is what we outsource, what stuff are we too scared to outsource?
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:47 am | #

Hey sane or anyone else who is hangin' out here.... I am wondering what the hell happened to all the links to Reader Comments on PP...am I missing something?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:36 am | #

Not sure, but I am kind of following this philosophy tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=58CJih1iYC0
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:41 am | #

DailyKos Poll Update - Ron Paul now at 80%

Who'd win in the general election?

Hillary Clinton
19%
99 votes

Ron Paul
80%
399 votes

498 votes
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:37 am | #

Robin Williams as CFR and Bilderberg take over our country.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:59 am | #

Hey sane or anyone else who is hangin' out here.... I am wondering what the hell happened to all the links to Reader Comments on PP...am I missing something?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:36 am | #

Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich exposes that outsourcing of psyops allows for Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, and Abu Graib lies and obstructions of justice

Watch the entire questioning by Dennis Kucinich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h? v=yxshMiedhYM
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Rendon Group is hired by the Department of Defense to conduct worldwide psyops operations including command and control of all messages to non-high security clearance individuals:
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CBC News In Depth: Spin CyclesEvery day has been about the talking points of the day, the message consistency and I ... IB: One of the organizations you write about is the Rendon Group. ...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/backgroun...pt- rampton.html - 51k - Cached - Similar pages
Business: Wanted: Ad agency to aid global battle on terrorismThe military said the deceptive message was intended to gauge enemy response. ... never been able to get the Rendon Group to discuss its psy-op activities. ...
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/12/ 0...gency_to_.shtml - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
The Victory of Spin | Center for Media and DemocracyTaylor said, "Outsourcing is either a sign of recognition that the ... However, Rendon's role in the current invasion of Iraq, although little noted, ...
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The Victory of SpinTaylor said, "Outsourcing is either a sign of recognition that the military ... In a rare interview, Rendon "openly boasted" to journalist James Bamford of ...
http://www.prwatch.org/node/4397/print - 23k - Cached - Similar pages
MountainRunner: Civil-Military Relations ArchivesThe British propaganda machine in World War I was extremely effective in both the propagation of message and the secrecy in the source. Unlike the Rendon ...
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WAR DEPARTMENT: military archives of the Progressive ReviewOUTSOURCING WAR. JOHN G. ROOS ARMY TIMES - Ben Thomas and three colleagues .... but lesser-known firms like the Rendon Group (providing public relations ...
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Firedoglake - Firedoglake weblog » Tillman Hearing, Part TwoRummy: It was the army’s fault? K; outsourcing of message? Rummy: Ask army .... Rendon/Lincoln/Rendon/Lincoln…KKKarl. [Be gentle with me…save the one-liners ...
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/...aring-part-two/ - 319k - Cached - Similar pages
On The Media-- HIRED HANDThe Rendon Group brought the people together, created the organization, ... and the Pentagon's increasing outsourcing of its propaganda work. ...
http://www.onthemedia.org/yore/ t...20205_hand.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
On The Media: Transcript of "Hired Hand" (December 2, 2005)Bob talks to intelligence expert James Bamford about the Rendon Group, ... and the Pentagon's increasing outsourcing of its propaganda work. ...
http://www.onthemedia.org/transc...s/2005/12/02/ 02 - 15k - Cached - Similar pages
Psyops and Influence Operations in IraqOne dubious aspect of US IO messages was the continual references to the size and capability of the Iraqi military – the world’s 4th largest army, ...
http://www.globalfocus.org/GF-IO...F-IOPO- Iraq.htm - 50k - Cached - Similar pages
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Lincoln Group is hired by the Department of Defense to conduct worldwide psyops operations including command and control of all messages to non-high security clearance individuals:
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Lincoln Group - SourceWatchIn 2006 the New York Times reported that the Lincoln Group won U.S. military contracts "after claiming to have partnerships with major media and advertising ...
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Pentagon quizzed on Iraq propaganda program - Conflict in Iraq ...One of the companies involved — the Washington-based Lincoln Group — has at least two contracts with the military to provide media and public relations ...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10272171/ - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
Lincoln Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIn September 2005, the Lincoln Group was looking to hire "senior media and PR .... Wilkinson "will craft long-term messaging strategy for the National ...
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USATODAY.com - Controversial PR group wins contract in IraqWashington-based Lincoln Group won a two-year contract to monitor a number of English and Arabic media outlets and produce public relations-type products ...
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George Bush has since 9/11 used outsourcing firms to control the media message, but in the last few years he has enacted "media war powers" which means that all stories/timing/visuals/sound bites/repetitian must go through psyops to be approved. In other words, the guys you see on the news are not fucked up, they are under "media war powers" as if we were all in Vietnam having to listen to Robin Williams as CFR and Bilderberg take over our country.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:59 am | #

Gambling911.com : "Ron Paul's Chances are Looking Better Than Ever"
http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-P...aul- 080707.html
Ron Paul Fox News Video Gets Over 32,000 Views

Following Sunday morning's Iowa debate, 2008 Presidential hopeful Ron Paul appeared on Fox News. The video was among the most viewed on YouTube by Monday evening.

Our own Jennifer Reynolds submitted a piece on Paul Monday entitled "Ron Paul's Chances are Looking Better Than Ever"

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We all know we can't trust the "official" polls. They are manipulated, twisted, aimed at a particular group to get the right answer, etc. How many of you have ever been called by a pollster? I have, and as soon as I refused to give out personal information, such as my age, financial status, and address, I was hung up on. Those folks just don't like to talk to people who refuse to help them with their demographic analysis. Well, most individuals I know do not like to give out that kind of information to strangers and these are the very kinds of people that support Ron Paul. As a Congressman, Ron Paul has done just about everything he can to keep us safer from the government and give us liberty and freedom, and yes, privacy. Therefore, it is likely that the typical Ron Paul supporter will not get to far with the typical pollster. This suggests that Ron Paul is doing much better than "polls" suggest. Of course, the online polls, the ones where you get to keep your private information private, have Dr. Paul winning by a landslide. But let's put that aside for now.

How can I be so sure that Ron Paul is doing so well? All I have to do is look at the mainstream media and read between the lines. We all know that the mainstream media is manipulative, conniving, controlled by corporations and doing everything it can to sway this election. It wants to make sure that whoever is nominated, it darn well better be a statist who will be happy to donate to big corporations in one way or another. As such, the news up until now regarding Ron Paul has been pretty paltry.

Ron Paul won the first debate, and what was reported: silence (or accusations of spamming). Ron Paul arguable won the second debate (polls by ABC and MSNBC show he won, while a poll on Fox news reports he came in second) either way, what was reported: silence (and a few more accusations of spamming.) Ron Paul won the third debate and again silence. Now, for any respectable, non-corrupt news outlet, this would be news. Big news. A long shot out of nowhere seems to have captured the hearts and minds of America. One would expect lots of speculation as to why. However, nothing was printed (except of course here on Gambling911 and other Internet outlets). Most likely, Ron Paul scared them and they did not know what to do. If they report about him, he may gain ground, so they kept silent.

Well, the silence had its own blowback. People began to write to their newspapers and online news outlets demanding to know where was all the news about the new Internet Phenom - Ron Paul. People wrote that they could no longer trust their usual news sources. It became clear just how biased the mainstream news really is and how they were holding back stories on Ron Paul. During the second debate, Ron Paul was asked a question about his non-interventionist foreign policy. He explained that he held his policy because interfering in another country's business tends to have unintended consequences. He discussed the motivations behind the terrorist attacks and talked about how the terrorists have stated they attacked us because we are occupying their country, not because we are free. He was then asked (by an oh so fair and balanced moderator): Are you saying that America invited the 9/11 attacks?

Well, anyone with half a brain could see that was not what he said at all. It is as if the media is following the lead of the current administration and thinks it can do anything and we won't notice or care. We saw the manipulation. We saw how they tried to make Ron Paul an evil man. Ron Paul is not evil and never once said that the victims invited or deserved their fate. But, boy, did the news do its best to spin it that way. There are still articles that are trying to pin that on Ron Paul. Nevertheless, people are beginning to question the media and its truth distortions and are starting to lose faith. They can see the blatant spin and twists in articles on Ron Paul. They can see how desperate the media is to paint him as a kook, when Ron Paul is perhaps the only non-kook currently running. Ron Paul wants to end the war now, and bring all of our soldiers home now. Well, so does most of America, so how does that make him a kook? He also does not want to drop nuclear weapons on innocent civilians unlike most other candidates. And they call that kooky? (Most of the other candidates are for pre-emptive nuclear strikes). So, silence didn't work, it just made people mistrust the news. The spin is not working. Have you ever read the comments after an article that attacks Ron Paul based on nothing but non-sensical ad hominem attacks? It is brutal. His supporters attack in droves. People are not happy that the media is trying to take their candidate away from them.

This brings me to today. The latest tactic seems to state that Ron Paul, while he may not be a kook, (or put another way, "please don't send us hate email") he has absolutely no chance of winning. This may have been started in the interview with George Stephanopoulos, or somewhere else. But it appears that all the talking heads have gotten together for this latest attack on Ron Paul. Which is exactly why I say that he is gaining ground. If he were fading into the hoped for obscurity, they would continue to stay silent. We must stay forever Vigilant as this new tactic can be rather effective if people are not paying attention.

In general people do not like to "waste a vote" for a candidate they think will not win. So they vote for the people they think have a chance. This is a nutty idea when you think about it, because how can you ever have a chance at getting what you want if you do not vote for it. Nevertheless, the idea persists. So, all this talk about how Ron Paul does not have a chance of winning the nomination is simply another attempt to steer you away from Ron Paul. When they are trying to manipulate you, you know you have them running scared. And boy, are they scared. Here is an excellent article on why to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries. Ron Paul refuses to go away. His popularity continues to grow exponentially. The media attacks are continuing. My conclusion: he is winning. It make take a little while, but he is winning. Most people who hear him, or read about him become instant converts. It is hard to argue with a man who wants peace, prosperity, liberty, and freedom for ALL. Besides, who doesn't want to keep their whole paycheck? (Ron Paul is against the Income Tax and wants to repeal it.)

So now you know how I know that Ron Paul is doing so well. I do not suggest subjecting yourself to the mainstream news manipulation forum except in very small doses. But when you do, read between the lines. See what I see. Ron Paul is making an impact. A big impact. They will not be able to hide from it much longer. In the future, remember the silence. Remember the lies, the spins, the attacks. Think long and hard about where you get your information from. One last note: as of this moment on an ABC news poll, Ron Paul has 23,220 votes for the question "Who do you think won the [fourth] Republican Debate" while the next closest competitor, Mitt Romney has 3,405 votes. Take particular note of the comment at the bottom of the poll however, "Not a scientific survey." I would be surprised if this tremendous victory is reported in the next day's headlines.

If you would like to learn more about Ron Paul visit his campaign website at
http://www.RonPaul2008.com
http://www.LewRockwell.com

look on the home page for the Ron Paul file for articles by Ron Paul during his last ten terms as a Congressman.

"To know how someone will behave in the future, look to how they have behaved in the past." unknown
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:12 am | #

Poll: Who'd win in the general election?
[Ron Paul up another %!]
Hillary Clinton
20%
96 votes

Ron Paul
79%
367 votes

463 votes
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:07 am | #

New Report: UFO Over O’Hare Airport
http://www.livescience.com/blogs...ort-new-report/
“The identity of the UAP [unidentified aerial phenomenon] remains unknown, ” analysis suggests that a “significant air safety problem existed at O’Hare International Airport”
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:04 am | #

Satellite tracking will help answer questions about penguin travels
http://uwnews.washington.edu/ni/ ...articleID=35703
University of Washington scientists will attach satellite tracking devices to the backs of six penguins that have been treated at two centers in northern Argentina after their feathers were fouled with oil. The birds will be released into the Atlantic Ocean and their movements traced using satellites and the Internet.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:04 am | #

The Rising Tide of Popular Discontent in America
http://www.opednews.com/ articles...g_tide_of_p.htm
Is America headed for another Civil War if things don't change?
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:03 am | #

Putting the MN Bridge Collapse into Perspective
http://www.mises.org/story/2668
The correct message from the bridge collapse, which was allowed to happen with full knowledge of the bridge's structural problems, is that government cannot get the job done. The government lacks the incentive to fix problems.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:03 am | #

Buffett has $US46 BILLION in cash!
http://www.smh.com.au/news/ busin...6252629487.html
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:02 am | #

>>>>>>>IOWA STRAW POLL HAS ALREADY BEEN FIXED-NO VALIDATION ALLOWED-USING SAME MACHINES DECERTIFIED BY CALIFORNIA
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/F...m? InfoNo=022071
Iowa Poll made of Straw-Iowa GOP refuses to allow any Validation of Ballots.

...[straw poll official] came back on the line to say that the paper ballots would remain with the machines and would not elaborate further. I asked if the paper would be destroyed and she would not/could not answer.

So there you have it. The same machines that California just decertified 3 days ago and Florida is in the spot light about as well, are going to be used to determine the future of the very people behind the computer printouts for the election results.

It has become very clear to me why a small state like Iowa is made the first state. The local party charges $35 for _any_ Iowan that is old enough to vote in the 2008 election to cast a ballot. This fundraiser for the Iowa GOP is worth millions in direct and indirect revenue for the GOP here and the businessmen and rocking the boat that brought the money isn't going to happen.
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So what should be done? I am of the opinion that the education of the people of Iowa and the country has already started to happen and the net benefit for the revolution is worth all of the effort no matter what is reported by the Live Free or Diebold Computers. But I encourage us all not to be deterred by a muted result of the people's voice. The Bad Guys hear us and they are very worried that their time is near an end. But their fear also makes them very dangerous in too many ways to count. So the only advice I have is for us to keep doing exactly what we have been doing,... ignoring them. Their rigged polling, their rigged elections, their bias media, their fearmongering and warmongering are all signs of defeat and I am very encouraged by the awareness of most of the activist supporting Ron Paul.
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:41 am | #

DailyKos Poll Update: Who'd win in the general election?

Hillary Clinton
21%
95 votes

Ron Paul
78%
342 votes

437 votes
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:31 am | #

>>>>2008: Hillary Clinton vs. Ron Paul?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/6/205111/ 3638
by cryptochrome Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 06:47:48 PM PDT
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In 1992, Independent Ross Perot upset the election, bringing in 19% of the vote to Bill Clinton's 43% and George H.W. Bush's 37%. He did this on a populist, Washington-outsider campaign, at one point leading in the polls (which being an incredible flake he promptly lost). Then, as now, Americans were sick to death of electoral pablum. But now, unlike then, thanks to the netroots, we commoners not only have a voice in the polls, we have a voice in the debate. We have questions, we expect answers, and we are not putting up with the usual B.S. Hunter S. Thompson may be dead but his spirit is alive and kicking. This growing influence has given me pause to consider the unthinkable - what if a real grassroots, Washington-outsider candidate could get on the ballot? It's not just exciting to consider - in this stretched out campaign, a grassroots campaign might actually be able to find fertile soil. But there's a catch to that sentiment for the Democrats. Because in this election, the strongest Democrat is Hillary Clinton, arguably the biggest insider to run for office in years. And the candidate with the most vibrant netroots backing is a Republican, Ron Paul.
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What if?
During the 2000 elections, it was a running joke that Al Gore and George W. Bush were virtually identical, with nary a difference in their stated policy. Years later it's clear that in reality nothing could have been farther from the truth - and that the joke was on us. But at the time that viewpoint was not unreasonable. Both Gore and Bush were running their campaigns with the same strategy - maximum caution and minimum risk, aiming to win by as narrow an electoral and popular margin as they dared. The result was the closest presidential election in American history, and an internationally embarassing month long name-calling session that was ultimately resolved in the courts. This was not only the fault of the candidates. It was in fact mostly the fault of the negligent press, who failed to do their job and tell us what we wanted to know - what we NEEDED to know - about the candidate's true political views and commitments. How times have changed. Looking over recent events in both Democratic and Republican parties, it is clear that the power of big media and spin doctors to control the debate is fading fast, and the most significant factor in this erosion of power and explosion of truth are the netroots.

There were many faults with the Democratic YouTube debates (many of which can be laid squarely at Anderson Cooper's feet), but the informality of the questions was not one of them. The questions were offbeat but sharp, goofy but revealing, amateurish but meaningful, personal but seminal. The candidates fell back on their usual talking points as often as they could, but nonetheless found themselves faced with questions they could not easily spin their way. As a result, we actually got meaningful clarifications of position from John Edwards and a significant foreign policy debate between Obama and Clinton (not to mention some delightfully forthright opinions from Joe Biden). Last week, at YearlyKos, we again saw the power of netroots bluntness, when Clinton put her foot in it and was forced to spin her courting of lobbyists. The power of the netroots is most fully seen not by the number of cheers for the candidates, but by the number of boos for positions they'd rather not have liked you to know about and the crap they routinely peddle to cherry-picked audiences. The long-term effect of this can only be positive. Candidates are not only being asked the questions on peoples minds that big media never bothered to ask, they're being expected to answer them. Nor are the voters the only ones who benefit. Politicians themselves are finding the freedom to speak their mind that they never thought they had - case in point, Al Gore.

So what if the grassroots really plays a meaningful role this time?
At the moment, the Democratic field looks unstoppable, with three powerhouse candidates and a relatively strong second tier. In contrast the Republican field is mired in personal controversy, fizzling political capital, and destructive infighting. Despite all this, it doesn't take a genius to see that the game will change entirely once both sides pick their candidates, when the two candidates really start to square off against each other for the american population as a whole rather than inside the narrow confines of primary voters. For the Democrats, the smart money is on Hillary Clinton for the nomination. For the Republicans, the situation is much less certain. Thus far, no candidate has really lept ahead of the pack, or even ahead of their personal failings. As far as I can tell, only two candidates seem to be gaining or holding ground. The first is Mitt Romney, who politically should have been the favorite but made the mistake of being Mormon in a party dominated by Christian fundamentalists. The other is an even-tempered yet iconoclastic libertarian representative from Texas, Ron Paul.

Despite a long record in Congress, Paul is a consummate outsider. His opposition to the war in the Republican field is what catches the eye these days, but his voting record and long-standing policies are what really set him apart - his own party has tried to remove him on multiple occasions opposed him at many turns. He also just so happens to be the darling of YouTube and libertarian-leaning web communities everywhere - and the only candidate to not shy away from the Republican YouTube debates. With every debate he steadily gains funds from small donors and polling percentages. It is improbable that he will win the Republican nomination, but if he did, his support would be from grassroot sources far removed from the traditional Republican base.

In contrast, Hillary Clinton only deviates from the standard electoral playbook in only two respects - her gender and her already remarkably close contact with the White House. Every word out of her mouth is carefully parsed and chosen for maximum spin and palatability. Obama and Edwards, her only serious rivals, are somewhat more daring in their rhetoric and promises, but no more so than you would expect of career politicians trying to move up from second and third place. Her Washingtonian reputation reached its peak recently at YearlyKos, when she actually defended lobbying. While she might be more honest than her competitors, one could not ask for a more serious disconnect with the disaffected American voter. I therefore invite the reader to consider the possibility, however remote, that we could see the following. Hillary Clinton, the consummate insider, vs. Ron Paul, the career outsider. I know how most people on this site would vote, but I ask you to honestly consider how two such different campaigns might play in a general election. Naturally the bases would support their candidates (and/or oppose the other) as usual, but there would be real meaningful difference between the establishment and the anti-establishment, which is where the real battle would be waged. Would Hillary's history and political acumen help or hurt her? Would Paul's unconventional politics sway new voters or dissuade existing ones?
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Poll: Who'd win in the general election?
Hillary Clinton
21%
94 votes

Ron Paul
78%
340 votes

434 votes
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:29 am | #

BREAKING: Works by Monet and Brueghel Stolen by Armed Thieves
http://www.reuters.com/article/e...&rpc=22& sp=true
Armed thieves marched into an open museum in the southern French city of Nice and stole four paintings by Impressionists Monet and Sisley, and Flemish painter Jan Brueghel the Elder, police said on Monday.
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Like the diamond rape at Antwerp, this makes no fucking sense as being anything less than a huge inside job including the insurance companies, security companies, the press.

Who gets screwed...art viewers, insurance rates, more surveillance police power.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:19 am | #

Hitler Secretly Listened to Jewish & Russian Albums
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle2211203.ece
Adolf Hitler, the most notorious champion of Richard Wagner and “racially pure” German music, banished Jewish and Russian musicians from the concert halls of the Third Reich — but apparently listened secretly to their work, it was discovered when his ‘Best Of' discs turned up in a dead Russian soldier’s attic.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:17 am | #

>>>>>DAILYKOS:2008: Hillary Clinton vs. Ron Paul?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/6/205111/ 3638
The strongest Democrat is Hillary Clinton, arguably the biggest insider to run for office in years. And the candidate with the most vibrant netroots backing is a Republican, Ron Paul. What if? Scroll down to cast your vote!
________________________________________
Who'd win in the general election?

Hillary Clinton
22%

94 votes
Ron Paul
78%
339 votes

433 votes
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WAKE UP!!!! WAKE UP!!! WAKE UP!!!

This is on a LIBERAL BLOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:17 am | #

LewRockwell.com Gives Up Tax Exempt Status To Keep Fighting for Ron Paul
http://dailypaul.com/node/1138
Look, Blumert," the lawyer told me. "There's nothing complex here. Ron Paul is a big problem for you people." So I responded: BLUMERT: You can ’t imagine how strange that sounds. Ron is a problem only to the moribund political establishment, and their cowardly media. At LewRockwell.com (LRC) we revere Ron Paul and regard him as a modern day Thomas Jefferson
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:13 am | #

Air Force Draws Weekend Cyberwarriors From Microsoft, Cisco
http://www.wired.com/politics/se...s/2007/08/ 262nd
"We must be prepared to defeat our enemies by using combined arms -- air, ground, sea, space, and cyber weapons systems."
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:13 am | #

Who Had More Supporters in Iowa - Mitt Romney or Ron Paul? You Decide.
http://dailypaul.com/node/1142
Looks like there's a ton more Paul supporters, they pwn the Mitt guys. But wait, look at the biased old media coverage; that's weird, they make it look like Paul had one lonely supporter... Bias anyone?
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:12 am | #

The FBI Can’t Link Bin Laden to 9/11? Why Is This Not News?
http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive...s-this-not- news
The statement saying the FBI had no hard evidence was released in June of 2006. The implication is that the FBI doesn ’t believe the video constitutes hard evidence of Bin Laden’s involvement.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:12 am | #

Ron Paul's Wise Foreign Policy
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8...rig8/ fisk5.html
While Dr. Paul has sometimes mentioned it, I don t think his introduction of two bills in particular can be stressed enough. The bills, had they been adopted and passed, might have allowed the U.S. to avoid the disasters in Afghanistan and Iraq and more than likely would have by now resulted in the capture of Osama bin Laden
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:11 am | #

HONK if you love Ron Paul! [Video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?v=Klj- 9Dtm9PM
On an overpass, a Youtuber films a family of Ron Paul supporters getting honks from cars.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:11 am | #

Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 12:34 am | #
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>>>>>>>>>Massive ULF ‘Blast’ Detected In US Bridge Collapse Catastrophe August 2, 2007
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/in...m/ index1026.htm
Reports from Russia’s Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics located in Irkutsk are reporting today that their Siberian Solar Radio Telescope (SSRT) detected a ‘massive’ ultra low frequency (ULF) ‘blast’ emanating from Latitude: 45° 00' North Longitude: 93° 15' West at the ‘exact’ moment, and location, of a catastrophic collapse of a nearly 2,000 foot long bridge in Minneapolis, Minnesota. To the horrific destruction of the Interstate 35W Bridge which spanned the Mississippi River we can read as reported by the Star Tribune News Service:

"The 1,907-foot bridge fell into the Mississippi River and onto roadways below. The span was packed with rush hour traffic, and dozens of vehicles fell with the bridge leaving scores of dazed commuters scrambling for their lives. Nine people were confirmed dead as of 4 a.m. today. Sixty were taken to hospitals and 20 people were still missing this morning. Authorities said they expected the death toll to rise."

Russian Military reports state that the total collapse of such a massive bridge, and in the absence of evidence linking its destruction to terrorist activity, could only have been accomplished by an acoustic weapon, of which the United States Military is known to possess. These reports further state that one of the United States primary research organizations into acoustic weapons research is Augsburg College, and which is located in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and most importantly less than 1 mile from the Interstate 35W Bridge collapse. To the exact reason of why, and what exactly happened in this catastrophe we can only speculate, but, with what is known about the United States past history of using sophisticated weapons on their own citizens for ‘research’ purposes it certainly lies in the realm of possibility that this horrific tragedy is rooted in the use of ULF weapons.

To the past usage of these new types of weapons we can read even back into the 1980’s of the United States research into their use as reported by the CNN News Service:

"Imagine the implications of a weapon with no visible trace -- a weapon that could knock out tanks, ships, and planes as fast as the speed of light. The same technology, with modifications, could disorient and even tranquilize military personnel, rendering them virtually helpless in the battle zone. These are the new weapons of war we will examine in this series. For the past 40 years, the world has been riveted by the threat of nuclear war, and more recently by the prospect of space defenses using lasers and other modern technologies. Lightning is the most dramatic form of energy to be found in nature. Scientists have succeeded in creating limited types of artificial lightning. And some think that these could be the forerunners of a new type of directed-energy weapon, part of a family of weapons that operate within the radio frequency segment of the electromagnetic spectrum, and are thus referred to as radio frequency weapons."

To the dangers of ULF weapons being used against civilians we can read the warnings of Dr. Rauni Leena Kilde, MD, the former Chief Medical Officer for Lapland (northern Finland), who warned in 1999:

"When the use of electromagnetic fields, extra-low (ELF) and ultra-low (ULF) frequencies and microwaves aimed deliberately at certain individuals, groups, and even the general population to cause diseases, disorientation, chaos and physical and emotional pain breaks into the awareness of the general population, a public outcry is inevitable."
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[Sane Note: I do not agree with the last paragraph of the article at all, I do however believe that the $1.6 Trillion bill to improve US infrastructure is a major reason for this false flag attack. I also feel that the NAFTA SuperHighway is another reason. I further do not know if it had to be an energy weapon, however the lack of independent investigation makes it difficult to evaluate how this false flag occured.]
To the exact reason of why the United States would be targeting Minneapolis with such a massive ULF ‘blast’ we can find in the exact neighborhoods that surround the Interstate 35W Bridge, and which are home to one of the largest Muslim populations in the United States, including over 30,000 Somalis who are outraged by the US sponsored invasion of their home Nation by Ethiopian forces. For the American people as a whole, this catastrophe provides yet another example of the consequences of their allowing their Military Forces to gain total control over their economy and lives, and which history has long shown leads always towards total destruction.

[Ed. Note: The United States government actively seeks to find, and silence, any and all opinions about the United States except those coming from authorized government and/or affiliated sources, of which we are not one. No interviews are granted and very little personal information is given about our contributors, or their sources, to protect their safety.]
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:20 am | #

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>>>>>>Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Does Not Disclose Hillary Clinton Conflict Of Interest In WP/ABC Iowa Poll That Ranked Ron Paul Second To Last
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From Washington Post:
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Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project.
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Selzer and Company Lists Wal-Mart as one of their top customers and promotes that they use "art" as well as facts when creating polls.
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J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
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Hillary Clinton Served On Wal-Mart Board Of Directors For 6 Years.
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Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart for a Six-year tenure
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/2...f3a9c40& ei=5070
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Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Never Disclosed This Relationship And Obvious Conflict Of Interest.
This shows that not only is Hillary Clinton have the capability to be connected to companies that can manipulate elections on various levels, she audaciously does not disclose these connections. Reminds me of Bush, Arbusto, and Bin Laden.
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Because of Ron Paul's consistent stand on the Iraq war [the largest issue facing Americans], he has been seen as the only GOP candidate that can beat front runner Hillary Clinton.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07candefeat.htm
http://www.gambling911.com/Onlin...aul- 052207.html
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../25/ 289229.aspx
http://www.buchanan.org/blog/?p=787
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au...ent/2007/06/12/
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This answers any question of motif as to why Hillary would hide conflicts of interest between her and the Washington Post/ABC Iowa Poll that was used to:
1]Present an image of who is in the upper and lower tier of GOP Presidential Candidates so that more attention by the audience is given to those at the supposed upper tier.
2]Somehow justify Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos [another obvious conflict of interest-but a disclosed one] only allowing a total of 2 minutes to Dr. Ron Paul in a 90 minute debate. He even revealed to all the viewers that he controlled the "green light" which timed candidates responses.
3]Overlook the prevention of Dr. Ron Paul to present his argument regarding healthcare [he is the only physician running and might have some information for the American people on this topic] and taxes [where he always reveals the illegal inflation tax that other candidates will not mention].
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These obviously powerful and compelling methods of creating artificial barriers in the election process should be disclosed to the American people so that our entire presidential election process is not compromised further than we have seen in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006. To see clearly whether or not we are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, this might be the first place to investigate
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:19 am | #

and then there was one....
Good night
and
Good luck
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 1:17 am | #

Only two of us here.
Hmmmmmm.........
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 1:13 am | #

Ron Paul Wins Drudge Report Iowa GOP Debate Poll
http://votewritein.blogspot.com/...t-iowa- gop.html
Following the GOP debate in Iowa yesterday DrudgeReport.com had their usual poll asking readers who won the debate. Below are the results of that poll which was pulled down sometime between 6:30pm EST and 8:00pm EST.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 12:38 am | #

Massive ULF ‘Blast’ Detected In US Bridge Collapse Catastrophe

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/in...m/ index1026.htm

You need to scroll down a bit for this story.
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 12:34 am | #

Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 2:17 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 12:31 am | #

JBird...

CONCERNING ROMNEY DROPPING THE 9/11 WHISPER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEABTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...h?v=3rSsv- Ncfa0

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sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 11:21 pm | #

I am loading match .308 moly to break in a buddies new savage bull barrel. This week .223 and .44 and .45........never have too much.
And 200 more .300 win mag match @200 grain HPBT. All match loads. Same stuff I did under one inch 4 shot group at 600 yards with. Get ready.
There's a storm coming.
Pretty good show on Alex today. On now.
Henry Bowman | 08.06.07 - 11:02 pm | #

Anti-semitism: against favoritism toward Jews.

Now why the hell would someone go to jail for not being for favoritism toward anyone!?

You know people are so fucked up in there heads they deserve what they get for being so damm stupid.
cuda | 08.06.07 - 8:51 pm | #

and NAZI-ISREAL uses the "youre anti semitic" smokescreen all the time. they are not JEWISH,
they are NAZI's posing as JEWS.
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 9:32 pm | #

I read this and thought it was interesting so I put it up for fun.
What does the term antisemitism mean?
Semitism means favoritism toward Jews (or semetic people)
Anti: Against
Anti-semitism: against favoritism toward Jews.

Now why the hell would someone go to jail for not being for favoritism toward anyone!?

You know people are so fucked up in there heads they deserve what they get for being so damm stupid.
cuda | 08.06.07 - 8:51 pm | #

I can shoot a walnut out of a tree.
I know for a fact that I can shoot an asshole in the neck.
Aim for the head man, the Bastards wear body armor!
oldman | 08.06.07 - 8:05 pm | #

with God as my witness, if that Bastard Bush puts troops on the streets of my town there will be a gun fight.
All of my family and friends live out in the country.
We live in the Ozark mountains.
If they come for us, it will be a gun battle.
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 8:00 pm | #

grease your guns boys!
we're gonna need em
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 7:56 pm | #

Alex says the gov. is in la la land.
I laughed my ass off.
Alex is right.
Fuck Bush
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 7:51 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...807_b_Yahoo.htm

Congress probes Yahoo! for helping China imprison reporter

oh doesnt that sound nice.. fookin hipocrits!!
they just passed "el busho's" super spying program against the American people but theyre going to pretend they give a damn by "probing" YAHOO over someone being imprisoned in CHINA?! you know what, congress needs to dig a deep hole, crawl into it and pull the dirt in over themselves.
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 7:15 pm | #

part 2 :

meantime, back in time, to NAZI GERMANY...
wealthier people (inclusive to wealthier jewish people) were allowed to leave NAZI GERMANY, but the only allowed destination is now known as ISREAL, where the NAZI's had total control. the area was named Isreal AFTER WW2. the US had operation paperclip to bring NAZI ROCKET SCIENTISTS, and SOCIAL ENGINEERS (propaganda and brainwashing artists) here to America, they have played a major part in our POLITICS AND NEWS MEDIA ever since. (Henry Kissinger as an example?)
why do you think the US government gives NAZI ISREAL anything they want?
maybe because theyre part of the SAME NAZI MACHINE?

and back to the present:
politicians destroying the constitution as fast as they can, corporations moving overseas leaving the people unemployed, the prison industry the fastest growing business in the US anymore. Cheney giving halliburton/kbr a 385 million per year no-bid contract to build 800+ NAZI STYLE concentration camps for FEMA on American soil..
-as bush tries again and again to pass amnesty for 30 million illegal immigrants, contrary to laws that have been in place long before his own grandpa was busted for being a traitor for funding nazi's.

all the information and a whole lot more IS available, but you wont get it in the TV nightly news, for yourself and others, you need to look into it all for yourself.
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 2:17 pm | #

heres another might be worth spreadin around:

Member since: June 03, 2007
Total points: 165 (Level 1)
Points earned this week:
--% Best answer

informed
S
heres the basics:

prescott (grandpa) BUSH was busted along with several others funding NAZI GERMANY.
BUSH SENIOR was CIA and ran Air America, a private airline, (just like the movie with Mel Gibson, why do ya think they try to demonize Mel?) trading weapons for opium.
when uncle RONNY REAGAN was president and BUSH SENIOR was president, we had oliver north / noriega (we PUT in power) trading weapons for cocaine, with shipments being flown into MENA ARKANSAS where BILLYBOY CLINTON was governor. NANCY REAGAN got on the podium with the "just say no" campaign, reverse psychology advertizing drugs for SOMEONE who had a LOT to sell.. allright ?
(remember john hinkley shot reagan, hinkley family is bush buddies)
BUSH SENIOR as president, had set up the TALIBAN to grow a lot of OPIUM, they proposed an OIL PIPELINE through their turf, when they were going to get a lesser cut, the TALIBAN BURNED the OPIUM CROPS and were demonized by the media. the US GOVT, put SADDAM HUSSEIN into power back when as well. (like noriega)
when CLINTON was president he was near being run up a flagpole for things when he was governor.. investigations were underway, and he dodged that bullet by marching out monica lewinski and a stained blue dress!!
there is ZERO difference between the BUSH's and CLINTONS, they are DRUG DEALING MURDEROUS SCUM !! bush seniors little buddy donald rumsfeld, and dick (tater) cheney.. former CEO of HALLIBURTON.. gave halliburton 385 million a year contracts to build over 800 FEMA CAMPS, NAZI STYLE CONCENTRATION CAMPS ON AMERICAN SOIL !! halliburton just moved to dubai, and they built the oil refineries that were on the back of saddam's money btw. is it begining to make sense yet ?
please start learning about politics, drugs, the police state.
the prison industry the fastest growing in the nation, all by design. I never heard of crack before I saw it on the NEWS
(yes the mainstream media is complicit to these criminals)

if hillary gets into office it will be more business as usual, destroying America as fast as possible.
daddy's little war criminal dubya.. signed the USA into the SPP to make a North American Union , like the EU (european union) ILLEGALLY !! TREASONOUSLY !!
anything the "corporations" want.. but behind the corporate smokescreens, its a handfull of "elite global bankers" whose philosophy is all about fascism and genocide.
if you think this is all tinfoil hattery, you need to start researching it all yourself.

Source(s):

the clinton chronicles
JFK to BUSH connection
www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 1:38 pm | #

>>>>>>Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Does Not Disclose Hillary Clinton Conflict Of Interest In WP/ABC Iowa Poll That Ranked Ron Paul Second To Last
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From Washington Post:
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Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project.
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Selzer and Company Lists Wal-Mart as one of their top customers and promotes that they use "art" as well as facts when creating polls.
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J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
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Hillary Clinton Served On Wal-Mart Board Of Directors For 6 Years.
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Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart for a Six-year tenure
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/2...05/2...f3a9c40& ei=5070
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Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Never Disclosed This Relationship And Obvious Conflict Of Interest.
This shows that not only is Hillary Clinton have the capability to be connected to companies that can manipulate elections on various levels, she audaciously does not disclose these connections. Reminds me of Bush, Arbusto, and Bin Laden.
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Because of Ron Paul's consistent stand on the Iraq war [the largest issue facing Americans], he has been seen as the only GOP candidate that can beat front runner Hillary Clinton.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07candefeat.htm
http://www.gambling911.com/Onlin...aul- 052207.html
http://www.godlikeproductions.co...s.co...=8/3/07& forum=1
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../25/ 289229.aspx
http://www.buchanan.org/blog/?p=787
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au...ent/2007/06/12/
http://groups.google.com/group/a...roup/ a...1fe3f1? lnk=raot
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This answers any question of motif as to why Hillary would hide conflicts of interest between her and the Washington Post/ABC Iowa Poll that was used to:
1]Present an image of who is in the upper and lower tier of GOP Presidential Candidates so that more attention by the audience is given to those at the supposed upper tier.
2]Somehow justify Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos [another obvious conflict of interest-but a disclosed one] only allowing a total of 2 minutes to Dr. Ron Paul in a 90 minute debate. He even revealed to all the viewers that he controlled the "green light" which timed candidates responses.
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These obviously powerful and compelling methods of creating artificial barriers in the election process should be disclosed to the American people so that our entire presidential election process is not compromised further than we have seen in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006. To see clearly whether or not we are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, this might be the first place to investigate.

SANE's post was so great there I've copy/paste reposted it at least a dozen other places this morning. TY SANE !!
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 1:34 pm | #

More people need to understand what a collapse actually looks like.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:40 pm |
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Well, I can't be of much help when it comes to a natural collapse BUT take a look at this collection of CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS set to music (poison) // Enjoy (that may not be the right word):
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/17...732/demolition/
jbrid1138 | 08.06.07 - 1:30 pm | #

That Romney is a jerk. Did you guys catch him trying his best to interrupt Ron Paul by speaking out of turn and saying "Yeah, but what about 9/11?"

I wish Ron Paul had stopped and taken advantage of that invite and off loaded everything there is to know about 9/11 -- all the scientific 'explosive' evidence regarding the collapse of the three buildings at the WTC site, the round hole inside the West wall of the Pentagon, a large number of the hijackers still alive, the 8-mile debris field for flight 93 a flight that was 'supposedly' crashed, the obvious stand down by Cheney and Myers and Rumsfeld, the President sitting and reading about a pet goat while the secret service looked on undisturbed that our country was then under attack or where or who the next target might be, four allegedly hijacked airplanes and no evidence to support even where one can be identified -- those kind of things about 9/11.

And then for good measure since Guiliani was standing on the same damn stage // remind everyone that Guiliani clearly stated that he had advance knowledge that the towers were coming down, something that had never before in history before or after 9/11 ever happened before. Clearly said he knew on the day of 9/11 but now seems to have forgotten he said such a remark. Might as well throw in all that advance knowledge our government possessed prior to 9/11 yet did nothing to prepare or prevent such an attack.

If he (Romney) meant that about 9/11 (??) -- then Ron Paul should have knocked his socks off with it. Maybe then the jerk (Romney) wouldn't look quite so arrogant and pompous (as in pompous ass) and try and speak out of turn about something he only thinks he knows. Or do you think he just might, being a favorite among the in-crowd.

No, I think he's just a creep like a couple others standing there upon that stage running for the highest office in our land. Once gangsters got hold of the controls, they feel they can do any damn thing -- even be our President.

Change that attitude and vote Ron Paul 2008.
jbrid1138 | 08.06.07 - 1:20 pm | #

Poor Construction - Building Collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...uTu59fv7V0& NR=1
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Notice how it all happened at the speed of gravity

Notice that if fell into its footprint

Notice the "cauliflower" smoke clouds rather than the dark mist.

Notice how all the evidence vanished

Notice the pools of molten metal

Notice that this building was constucted with a reinforced core just like the WTC

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Yeah I know it is a small shoddy building, but that might be the point. Even this shoddy building seems to be stronger as it falls than the WTC was on 9/11/2001

More people need to understand what a collapse actually looks like.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:40 pm | #

The 41 House Dems Who Voted For Bush's Domestic Spying Program
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/5/01943/ 25391
41 House Democrats voted to roll over on the eavesdropping amendment that the White House demanded be added to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The bill, Orwellianly named the Protect America Act, passed 227-183, with 181 Democrats and two Republicans opposed. These are the Dems who ... failed us. Who failed our country ...
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:03 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...60807Nadler.htm

CLASSIC !!!
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Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 10:52 am | #

Congressman Ron Paul's Secret Revealed
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8...ig8/ haman3.html
The secret behind Ron Paul's enthusiastic supporters -- his principles and his personal integrity.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 9:30 am | #

Ron Paul endorsements:
http://rationalactivism.com/ronp...l-endorsements/
Michael Badnarik - 2004 Libertarian Party Presidential candidate
Chuck Baldwin - 2004 Constitution Party Vice-Presidential candidate
Jim Clymer - Constitution Party National Chair
Jim Guest - Missouri State Representative, District 5
Barbara Hagan - Long time right-to-life activist and former two-term New Hampshire state representative
Steve Kubby - 2008 Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate
Karen Kwiatkowski - Retired U.S. Air Force Lt. Colonel
Michael Peroutka - 2004 Constitution Party Presidential Candidate
Justin Raimondo - 1996 Republican Congressional candidate in California and editorial director of Antiwar.com
Michael Charles Smith - 2008 Republican Party Presidential candidate
United Republicans of California
Walter Block, Ph.D. - Professor of Economics at Loyola University and Fellow at the Mises Institute
Gary Galles, Ph.D. - Professor of Economics at Pepperdine University
Thomas Woods, Ph.D. - Author and resident historian at the Mises Institute
Vox Day - Political columnist
Bill Dumas - Hollywood producer
John Derbyshire - Political columnist
Alex Jones - radio host
Devvy Kidd - Political columnist
Aaron Russo - Hollywood film producer
Gary B. Smith - Fox News economics commentator
Joseph Sobran - Political columnist
Andrew Napolitano - Fox Senior Judicial Analyst and Superior Court Judge for New Jersey
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 9:27 am | #

"The US is really beyond reason now.
It is beyond our imagining to know what they are going to do next and what they are prepared to do.
There is only one comparison: Nazi Germany."
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at least sane has the true scope of this country.
thanks sane.
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 8:56 am | #

>>>>>>Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Does Not Disclose Hillary Clinton Conflict Of Interest In WP/ABC Iowa Poll That Ranked Ron Paul Second To Last
______________________________
From Washington Post:
______________________________
Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project.
______________________________
Selzer and Company Lists Wal-Mart as one of their top customers and promotes that they use "art" as well as facts when creating polls.
______________________________
J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
______________________________
Hillary Clinton Served On Wal-Mart Board Of Directors For 6 Years.
______________________________
Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart for a Six-year tenure
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/2...f3a9c40& ei=5070
______________________________
Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Never Disclosed This Relationship And Obvious Conflict Of Interest.
This shows that not only is Hillary Clinton have the capability to be connected to companies that can manipulate elections on various levels, she audaciously does not disclose these connections. Reminds me of Bush, Arbusto, and Bin Laden.
______________________________
Because of Ron Paul's consistent stand on the Iraq war [the largest issue facing Americans], he has been seen as the only GOP candidate that can beat front runner Hillary Clinton.
______________________________
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07candefeat.htm
http://www.gambling911.com/Onlin...aul- 052207.html
http://www.godlikeproductions.co...=8/3/07& forum=1
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../25/ 289229.aspx
http://www.buchanan.org/blog/?p=787
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au...ent/2007/06/12/
http://groups.google.com/group/a...1fe3f1? lnk=raot
______________________________
This answers any question of motif as to why Hillary would hide conflicts of interest between her and the Washington Post/ABC Iowa Poll that was used to:
1]Present an image of who is in the upper and lower tier of GOP Presidential Candidates so that more attention by the audience is given to those at the supposed upper tier.
2]Somehow justify Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos [another obvious conflict of interest-but a disclosed one] only allowing a total of 2 minutes to Dr. Ron Paul in a 90 minute debate. He even revealed to all the viewers that he controlled the "green light" which timed candidates responses.
______________________________
These obviously powerful and compelling methods of creating artificial barriers in the election process should be disclosed to the American people so that our entire presidential election process is not compromised further than we have seen in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006. To see clearly whether or not we are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, this might be the first place to investigate
______________________________

These
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Are we going to let Hillary Clinton control the GOP Presidential Candidate for President in 2008?
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:28 am | #

DIFFERENCE.

Vietnam was a scheme for the MIC and profiteers. This was obvious, televised, news media, spoken of in schools of higher education.
Demonstrated against,marched against,Etc. The draft was in effect, millions of innocents were killed, and our troops in the thousands.Students were killed at Kent State Univeristy, demonstrators were beaten, D Elsberg came forward. And most impotantly, JFK & RFK both were murdered soley becasue they were against the war, they would not join the team.. JFK had begun to mention withdrawal and RFk was outspoken against the war.
Fact we knew, though no one was ever charged with a crime for profits gained and power manipulated. 10 years to bring it to a stop.
Human Sacrifice for power and money.
911, WMD's, who in their right mind and soul would even consider Taliban and his camel jocks pulled of 911 after witnesing the demolition.After seeing the photos of the Pentagon.
Where were the WMD's, they did not exist. Yet our bombs are murdering a population of innocents, over 850,000 dead . And our volunteer troops with less rights than those drafted in Vietnam. The news media is silent and spineless, controled, no funerals are shown, dissenters have been threatened, mercenarys are hired, our congress both Democrat and Republican are moraly useless and have betrayed their oath.( Party seperation is indistinguishable)
The military upper echelon is bowing to their political masters. They are moral cowards, and betrayed the oath to protect the const, and defend against domestic enemies.
It is human sacrifice, the word is getting out, people are waking up, but i fear the ultiamte solution to this Elite criminal gang will test mens souls.
chris jones | 08.06.07 - 8:22 am | #

Complete Apollo photo archive now available after 40 years
http://asunews.asu.edu/node/730
For nearly 40 years, the complete photographic record from the Apollo moon project sat in a freezer at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, almost untouched, until now. A new digital archive – created through a collaboration between ASU and NASA – is making available on the Internet high-resolution scans of original Apollo flight films.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:06 am | #

>>>>>>Ron Paul at debate on ABC ONLY 2 min in 90 min Debate - Aug 5, 2007
First 2 segments on ABC debate with George Stephanopoulos...Ron Paul ABC stephanopoulos debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=NKNaFGDuuUg
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Rudy Has No Clue About Health Care 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?v=9qVrokl3- 2I
Rudy Lies About His Second Amendment And Pro Life Stand 52 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h? v=YJfbQh547o4
Gov. Romney: Is Clueless About Military [Ron Paul has most active duty supporters], Economy [He inherits $300 million, how does he know?], and Family [Separates children from families in African juevenille rape rooms] 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h? v=vvtJDBnm0O4
Gov. Romney: My Biggest Mistake was thinking people won't see what a fraud I am 23 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=H0te3KeuZaU
Gov. Romney: I Think The President Has Kept Us Safe Because I Do Not Read The Intelligence Reports 32 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eqbx7vk1MQg
Gov. Romney: Fix It First So I Can Break Something New 53 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=u44cnqqqdS4
Gov. Romney: I Think Pakistan Is A Moderate Muslim State 2 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (4 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h? v=tXeclPzdlno
Gov. Romney: I Will Continue To Believe In Outlandish Conspiracy Theories About Radical Jihad As An Excuse To Nuke The Middle East And Lock Up American Citizens 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eYZHITSAdWM
Gov. Romney: I Am Financially Personally Responsible For My Healthcare As I Have $300 Million 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h? v=WnX5ZsmRgT8
Gov. Romney: We Need A Surge of Support For Me That Is Why I Purchase Poll Results Like the One In Iowa 38 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h? v=2e9rKP0Ssqk
Gov. Romney On Sen. Obama: Jane Fonda To Doctor Strangelove Is The Extent Of My Simple Mind, Proving I cannot Tackle Complex Issues 37 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (5 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h? v=z80ss1F6FV8
Gov Romney Backpeddles On Sen. Brownback's Factual Statements 4 min - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FPboc61AZes

GE/AOL/Disney/NewsCorp/NationalAmusement [CNN/CNNHeadline/MSNBC/ABC/NBC/CNBC/FOX/FoxNews/ CBS] Blackout all news of Republican Debate.

Anyone who says there is no conspiracy against sovereignty and The Constitution has lost their fricking mind.
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Raw Footage:
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 1 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h? v=XcWHyxAj68o
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 2 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h?v=EAklv1Z- ZEg
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 3 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h? v=lgRuuWZKrbg
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 4 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h? v=0ZVz09rE2sA
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 5 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=TvCXNQ6D8R4
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 6 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?v=KKYv- QFXkXU
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:04 am | #

>>>ABC EXPOSED AS CRIMINALLY MISLEADING TO FIX AMERICAN ELECTIONS

>>>>>>>>ABC Cites Rigged Washington Post Poll to Discredit Ron Paul
http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/08...redit-ron-paul/
Rat Says: This is comical, to open the debate and introduce the candidates, ABC uses a poll from the Washington Post that actually had a sample size of 100 !!! No doubt these cherry picked sampl