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Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 11:42 pm | #
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Why in hell don't you just run Linux?
Install an independent Linux OS and you have no problems.
Fuck Win-doze!
Anonymous | 08.09.07 - 11:06 am | #

you can read descriptions at the pages before grabbing em up, all good stuff tho.

Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 11:42 pm |
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I see. Let me ask you then , what would be the safety of using hushmail , assuming I had all of the above neccessities installed as well. Also - Is Scroogle a good thing in your opinion ?
You KNOW I value your opinion ST.
(Can we go to 59 ? so much less load time in my opinion )
ty ST !
kells | 08.09.07 - 12:11 am | #

Anon was me again. I have only heard alex three times in the past 6-8 weeks because of trouble with windows media. So I missed his reference. I hear you Oldman, with the new free-for-all spying powers every part of our lives is fair game.
Is there a way to hide an IP ? Someone suggested using Scroogle a while back. THere must be something out there that isn't too complicated.
Also , aren't they already able to track everyone who is here ?
kells | 08.08.07 - 11:25 pm | #

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yes tracking has been in full effect for a long while now.. but looking for a proxy server you can trust is "fun" too. many are set up and monitored, just to be looking for people thinking theyre smart in trying to hide!

this a list of what I consider essentials for any online pc:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/ Sec...ScripTrap.shtml
-behaves like a firewall pops up warning to unknown script.

http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/
-firewall supplement to help block unwanted communications

http://www.softpedia.com/get/ Twe...RegSeeker.shtml
-removes registry orphans and helps a pc's performance
-can clear entried from index.dat in IE temp files

http://www.softpedia.com/progDow...load- 52111.html
-free fully functional for 30 days antispy

http://www.softpedia.com/get/ Int...tiSpyware.shtml
-free version antispyware

http://www.softpedia.com/progDow...nload- 6858.html
-free GOOD antivirus program (mcaffee and norton are junk)

http://www.softpedia.com/progDow...nload- 6199.html
-tabbed browser with great security features, activeX and popup/under blocking

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Sec...- Firewall.shtml
-free fully pro version firewall

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Sec...- Firewall.shtml
-another firewall, but can run on win98/ME

-you can read descriptions at the pages before grabbing em up, all good stuff tho.

Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 11:42 pm | #

I never heard Alex refer to the reader comments section during any of his shows. I don't think he is concerned about it one way or another
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 11:40 pm | #
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Yea he said over a month ago that he was starting one of his own.
He has had it for quite a while now.
I am not going to register for any web site.
It's not that I don't trust Alex, I do, I don't trust the Gov.
Oldman. | 08.08.07 - 4:02 pm |
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Anon was me again. I have only heard alex three times in the past 6-8 weeks because of trouble with windows media. So I missed his reference. I hear you Oldman, with the new free-for-all spying powers every part of our lives is fair game.
Is there a way to hide an IP ? Someone suggested using Scroogle a while back. THere must be something out there that isn't too complicated.
Also , aren't they already able to track everyone who is here ?
kells | 08.08.07 - 11:25 pm | #

KELLS !!
a good friend made the suggestion to open an e-mail account at hushmail.com
they dont ask jack squat for ID info.
Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 7:02 am |
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Perfect. You made my day.
Anonymous | 08.08.07 - 11:06 am | #
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Yea, but they still have your IP address.
And we all know what Bush does, the Bastard.
Oldman. | 08.08.07 - 4:04 pm | #

KELLS !!
a good friend made the suggestion to open an e-mail account at hushmail.com
they dont ask jack squat for ID info.
Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 7:02 am | #

Anonymous was me Sees Things, sorry.
kells | 08.07.07 - 11:48 pm | #

whats this ? SPOOK.COM ?
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:50 pm
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This board seems to have lost its party doesn't it ?
I am probably not going to do the register thing either.
I never heard Alex refer to the reader comments section during any of his shows. I don't think he is concerned about it one way or another. It is just a service for us that he provides.
I'm going to miss you sees things. You really are able to see into the ''how'' of nwo plans. You really do see things that wouldn't make sense to me until you explain it.I appreciate that about you . You connect the dots with seemingly no effort and explain it for those of us who are newer at this thing, and don't quite understand it all.
So many others have just stopped posting, I will miss them too. Maybe they couldn't get back to it after PP took away the Comments link.
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 11:40 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...807_b_names.htm

whats this ? SPOOK.COM ?
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:50 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...b_Globalist.htm

liars liars everywhere.. tony snow too.
get to the bottom of the page and its all about registering to be able to type anything in the forums. must be valid e-mail address etc etc.
sorry folks but if alex jones has gone big brother I'm outta here.
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:39 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti..._b_Giuliani.htm

hell, I hope ghoul-iani does beat hitlery, with a lead pipe very hard, then he can be locked up for the murder and it'd be 2 down.
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:26 pm | #

http://infowars.net/articles/ aug...070807Power.htm

and congress a buncha idiots for not arresting this criminal.
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Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:12 pm | #

We need people to sit at their computers at the poll sites when the debate starts, then perform a printscreen function & save every 5 minutes or so, so the public will have the 'evidence' of any poll tampering!
Mark Matthews | 08.07.07 - 7:01 pm | #

Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 10:41 am | #
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Sorry, I forgot that dial up still existed. I will only post new stuff and any general news stuff on 59 since it only has one post right now.

Just keep in mind the reason that 60 is so long is because it has been used for like 7 days, when usually a numbered thread is only up for half a day. There seems to have been an issue with the linking from the articles and this caused a long time on that thread. Also others and myself got hit with at least 100 false flag blog posts.

Thanks for letting me know that my actions may be causing an undesired affect.

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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:09 pm | #
From http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=15738#121730
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:12 pm | #

Alex is on.........
http://infowars.com/listen.html
Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 12:17 pm | #

Sane, and others.
You should keep in mind people who do not have high speed internet will not stay and join in conversation. We've been on page 60 for what, 3 or 4 days now?
My internet is pretty good, but I'm geussing the full page of #60 is something like 67 feet long now.
Some poor bastard with dialup will have to wait for about 5 hours just for the page to load. It will not load completely for me this morning.
Waiting forever for the page to load, then being reluctant to join in because it'll have to load again.......another 5 hours....ain't gonna happen for most people. While the voluminous posts you give are informative, they are not conducive to a community of discussion. Everyone is leaving to go where they can be involved in conversation, on a page that isn't 67 feet long, without 90 % of the page consumed by one individual who fills the page with info no-one has time or the inclination to read in the first place.
Sane, we love ya, but you're killing this forum.
Michael D.
Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 10:41 am | #

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Copied from page 61, been trying to get 60 to load all morning, this is the first time it loaded completely, allowing a comment.........
Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 12:16 pm | #

Reichstag 911
1 hr 59 min - Jul 8, 2007 - (89 ratings)
Political documentary focusing on terror attacks and their effects on the populations which suffer from them.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...146227169989321
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 5:04 am | #

Not sure, but I am kind of following this philosophy tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=58CJih1iYC0
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:41 am | #

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One of my favorites!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:48 am | #

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If this is what we outsource, what stuff are we too scared to outsource?
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:47 am | #

Hey sane or anyone else who is hangin' out here.... I am wondering what the hell happened to all the links to Reader Comments on PP...am I missing something?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:36 am | #

Not sure, but I am kind of following this philosophy tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=58CJih1iYC0
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:41 am | #

DailyKos Poll Update - Ron Paul now at 80%

Who'd win in the general election?

Hillary Clinton
19%
99 votes

Ron Paul
80%
399 votes

498 votes
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:37 am | #

Robin Williams as CFR and Bilderberg take over our country.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:59 am | #

Hey sane or anyone else who is hangin' out here.... I am wondering what the hell happened to all the links to Reader Comments on PP...am I missing something?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:36 am | #

Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich exposes that outsourcing of psyops allows for Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, and Abu Graib lies and obstructions of justice

Watch the entire questioning by Dennis Kucinich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h? v=yxshMiedhYM
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Rendon Group is hired by the Department of Defense to conduct worldwide psyops operations including command and control of all messages to non-high security clearance individuals:
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CBC News In Depth: Spin CyclesEvery day has been about the talking points of the day, the message consistency and I ... IB: One of the organizations you write about is the Rendon Group. ...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/backgroun...pt- rampton.html - 51k - Cached - Similar pages
Business: Wanted: Ad agency to aid global battle on terrorismThe military said the deceptive message was intended to gauge enemy response. ... never been able to get the Rendon Group to discuss its psy-op activities. ...
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/12/ 0...gency_to_.shtml - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
The Victory of Spin | Center for Media and DemocracyTaylor said, "Outsourcing is either a sign of recognition that the ... However, Rendon's role in the current invasion of Iraq, although little noted, ...
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The Victory of SpinTaylor said, "Outsourcing is either a sign of recognition that the military ... In a rare interview, Rendon "openly boasted" to journalist James Bamford of ...
http://www.prwatch.org/node/4397/print - 23k - Cached - Similar pages
MountainRunner: Civil-Military Relations ArchivesThe British propaganda machine in World War I was extremely effective in both the propagation of message and the secrecy in the source. Unlike the Rendon ...
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WAR DEPARTMENT: military archives of the Progressive ReviewOUTSOURCING WAR. JOHN G. ROOS ARMY TIMES - Ben Thomas and three colleagues .... but lesser-known firms like the Rendon Group (providing public relations ...
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Firedoglake - Firedoglake weblog » Tillman Hearing, Part TwoRummy: It was the army’s fault? K; outsourcing of message? Rummy: Ask army .... Rendon/Lincoln/Rendon/Lincoln…KKKarl. [Be gentle with me…save the one-liners ...
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/...aring-part-two/ - 319k - Cached - Similar pages
On The Media-- HIRED HANDThe Rendon Group brought the people together, created the organization, ... and the Pentagon's increasing outsourcing of its propaganda work. ...
http://www.onthemedia.org/yore/ t...20205_hand.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
On The Media: Transcript of "Hired Hand" (December 2, 2005)Bob talks to intelligence expert James Bamford about the Rendon Group, ... and the Pentagon's increasing outsourcing of its propaganda work. ...
http://www.onthemedia.org/transc...s/2005/12/02/ 02 - 15k - Cached - Similar pages
Psyops and Influence Operations in IraqOne dubious aspect of US IO messages was the continual references to the size and capability of the Iraqi military – the world’s 4th largest army, ...
http://www.globalfocus.org/GF-IO...F-IOPO- Iraq.htm - 50k - Cached - Similar pages
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Lincoln Group is hired by the Department of Defense to conduct worldwide psyops operations including command and control of all messages to non-high security clearance individuals:
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Lincoln Group - SourceWatchIn 2006 the New York Times reported that the Lincoln Group won U.S. military contracts "after claiming to have partnerships with major media and advertising ...
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Pentagon quizzed on Iraq propaganda program - Conflict in Iraq ...One of the companies involved — the Washington-based Lincoln Group — has at least two contracts with the military to provide media and public relations ...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10272171/ - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
Lincoln Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIn September 2005, the Lincoln Group was looking to hire "senior media and PR .... Wilkinson "will craft long-term messaging strategy for the National ...
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USATODAY.com - Controversial PR group wins contract in IraqWashington-based Lincoln Group won a two-year contract to monitor a number of English and Arabic media outlets and produce public relations-type products ...
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George Bush has since 9/11 used outsourcing firms to control the media message, but in the last few years he has enacted "media war powers" which means that all stories/timing/visuals/sound bites/repetitian must go through psyops to be approved. In other words, the guys you see on the news are not fucked up, they are under "media war powers" as if we were all in Vietnam having to listen to Robin Williams as CFR and Bilderberg take over our country.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:59 am | #

Gambling911.com : "Ron Paul's Chances are Looking Better Than Ever"
http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-P...aul- 080707.html
Ron Paul Fox News Video Gets Over 32,000 Views

Following Sunday morning's Iowa debate, 2008 Presidential hopeful Ron Paul appeared on Fox News. The video was among the most viewed on YouTube by Monday evening.

Our own Jennifer Reynolds submitted a piece on Paul Monday entitled "Ron Paul's Chances are Looking Better Than Ever"

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We all know we can't trust the "official" polls. They are manipulated, twisted, aimed at a particular group to get the right answer, etc. How many of you have ever been called by a pollster? I have, and as soon as I refused to give out personal information, such as my age, financial status, and address, I was hung up on. Those folks just don't like to talk to people who refuse to help them with their demographic analysis. Well, most individuals I know do not like to give out that kind of information to strangers and these are the very kinds of people that support Ron Paul. As a Congressman, Ron Paul has done just about everything he can to keep us safer from the government and give us liberty and freedom, and yes, privacy. Therefore, it is likely that the typical Ron Paul supporter will not get to far with the typical pollster. This suggests that Ron Paul is doing much better than "polls" suggest. Of course, the online polls, the ones where you get to keep your private information private, have Dr. Paul winning by a landslide. But let's put that aside for now.

How can I be so sure that Ron Paul is doing so well? All I have to do is look at the mainstream media and read between the lines. We all know that the mainstream media is manipulative, conniving, controlled by corporations and doing everything it can to sway this election. It wants to make sure that whoever is nominated, it darn well better be a statist who will be happy to donate to big corporations in one way or another. As such, the news up until now regarding Ron Paul has been pretty paltry.

Ron Paul won the first debate, and what was reported: silence (or accusations of spamming). Ron Paul arguable won the second debate (polls by ABC and MSNBC show he won, while a poll on Fox news reports he came in second) either way, what was reported: silence (and a few more accusations of spamming.) Ron Paul won the third debate and again silence. Now, for any respectable, non-corrupt news outlet, this would be news. Big news. A long shot out of nowhere seems to have captured the hearts and minds of America. One would expect lots of speculation as to why. However, nothing was printed (except of course here on Gambling911 and other Internet outlets). Most likely, Ron Paul scared them and they did not know what to do. If they report about him, he may gain ground, so they kept silent.

Well, the silence had its own blowback. People began to write to their newspapers and online news outlets demanding to know where was all the news about the new Internet Phenom - Ron Paul. People wrote that they could no longer trust their usual news sources. It became clear just how biased the mainstream news really is and how they were holding back stories on Ron Paul. During the second debate, Ron Paul was asked a question about his non-interventionist foreign policy. He explained that he held his policy because interfering in another country's business tends to have unintended consequences. He discussed the motivations behind the terrorist attacks and talked about how the terrorists have stated they attacked us because we are occupying their country, not because we are free. He was then asked (by an oh so fair and balanced moderator): Are you saying that America invited the 9/11 attacks?

Well, anyone with half a brain could see that was not what he said at all. It is as if the media is following the lead of the current administration and thinks it can do anything and we won't notice or care. We saw the manipulation. We saw how they tried to make Ron Paul an evil man. Ron Paul is not evil and never once said that the victims invited or deserved their fate. But, boy, did the news do its best to spin it that way. There are still articles that are trying to pin that on Ron Paul. Nevertheless, people are beginning to question the media and its truth distortions and are starting to lose faith. They can see the blatant spin and twists in articles on Ron Paul. They can see how desperate the media is to paint him as a kook, when Ron Paul is perhaps the only non-kook currently running. Ron Paul wants to end the war now, and bring all of our soldiers home now. Well, so does most of America, so how does that make him a kook? He also does not want to drop nuclear weapons on innocent civilians unlike most other candidates. And they call that kooky? (Most of the other candidates are for pre-emptive nuclear strikes). So, silence didn't work, it just made people mistrust the news. The spin is not working. Have you ever read the comments after an article that attacks Ron Paul based on nothing but non-sensical ad hominem attacks? It is brutal. His supporters attack in droves. People are not happy that the media is trying to take their candidate away from them.

This brings me to today. The latest tactic seems to state that Ron Paul, while he may not be a kook, (or put another way, "please don't send us hate email") he has absolutely no chance of winning. This may have been started in the interview with George Stephanopoulos, or somewhere else. But it appears that all the talking heads have gotten together for this latest attack on Ron Paul. Which is exactly why I say that he is gaining ground. If he were fading into the hoped for obscurity, they would continue to stay silent. We must stay forever Vigilant as this new tactic can be rather effective if people are not paying attention.

In general people do not like to "waste a vote" for a candidate they think will not win. So they vote for the people they think have a chance. This is a nutty idea when you think about it, because how can you ever have a chance at getting what you want if you do not vote for it. Nevertheless, the idea persists. So, all this talk about how Ron Paul does not have a chance of winning the nomination is simply another attempt to steer you away from Ron Paul. When they are trying to manipulate you, you know you have them running scared. And boy, are they scared. Here is an excellent article on why to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries. Ron Paul refuses to go away. His popularity continues to grow exponentially. The media attacks are continuing. My conclusion: he is winning. It make take a little while, but he is winning. Most people who hear him, or read about him become instant converts. It is hard to argue with a man who wants peace, prosperity, liberty, and freedom for ALL. Besides, who doesn't want to keep their whole paycheck? (Ron Paul is against the Income Tax and wants to repeal it.)

So now you know how I know that Ron Paul is doing so well. I do not suggest subjecting yourself to the mainstream news manipulation forum except in very small doses. But when you do, read between the lines. See what I see. Ron Paul is making an impact. A big impact. They will not be able to hide from it much longer. In the future, remember the silence. Remember the lies, the spins, the attacks. Think long and hard about where you get your information from. One last note: as of this moment on an ABC news poll, Ron Paul has 23,220 votes for the question "Who do you think won the [fourth] Republican Debate" while the next closest competitor, Mitt Romney has 3,405 votes. Take particular note of the comment at the bottom of the poll however, "Not a scientific survey." I would be surprised if this tremendous victory is reported in the next day's headlines.

If you would like to learn more about Ron Paul visit his campaign website at
http://www.RonPaul2008.com
http://www.LewRockwell.com

look on the home page for the Ron Paul file for articles by Ron Paul during his last ten terms as a Congressman.

"To know how someone will behave in the future, look to how they have behaved in the past." unknown
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:12 am | #

Poll: Who'd win in the general election?
[Ron Paul up another %!]
Hillary Clinton
20%
96 votes

Ron Paul
79%
367 votes

463 votes
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:07 am | #

New Report: UFO Over O’Hare Airport
http://www.livescience.com/blogs...ort-new-report/
“The identity of the UAP [unidentified aerial phenomenon] remains unknown, ” analysis suggests that a “significant air safety problem existed at O’Hare International Airport”
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:04 am | #

Satellite tracking will help answer questions about penguin travels
http://uwnews.washington.edu/ni/ ...articleID=35703
University of Washington scientists will attach satellite tracking devices to the backs of six penguins that have been treated at two centers in northern Argentina after their feathers were fouled with oil. The birds will be released into the Atlantic Ocean and their movements traced using satellites and the Internet.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:04 am | #

The Rising Tide of Popular Discontent in America
http://www.opednews.com/ articles...g_tide_of_p.htm
Is America headed for another Civil War if things don't change?
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:03 am | #

Putting the MN Bridge Collapse into Perspective
http://www.mises.org/story/2668
The correct message from the bridge collapse, which was allowed to happen with full knowledge of the bridge's structural problems, is that government cannot get the job done. The government lacks the incentive to fix problems.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:03 am | #

Buffett has $US46 BILLION in cash!
http://www.smh.com.au/news/ busin...6252629487.html
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:02 am | #

>>>>>>>IOWA STRAW POLL HAS ALREADY BEEN FIXED-NO VALIDATION ALLOWED-USING SAME MACHINES DECERTIFIED BY CALIFORNIA
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/F...m? InfoNo=022071
Iowa Poll made of Straw-Iowa GOP refuses to allow any Validation of Ballots.

...[straw poll official] came back on the line to say that the paper ballots would remain with the machines and would not elaborate further. I asked if the paper would be destroyed and she would not/could not answer.

So there you have it. The same machines that California just decertified 3 days ago and Florida is in the spot light about as well, are going to be used to determine the future of the very people behind the computer printouts for the election results.

It has become very clear to me why a small state like Iowa is made the first state. The local party charges $35 for _any_ Iowan that is old enough to vote in the 2008 election to cast a ballot. This fundraiser for the Iowa GOP is worth millions in direct and indirect revenue for the GOP here and the businessmen and rocking the boat that brought the money isn't going to happen.
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So what should be done? I am of the opinion that the education of the people of Iowa and the country has already started to happen and the net benefit for the revolution is worth all of the effort no matter what is reported by the Live Free or Diebold Computers. But I encourage us all not to be deterred by a muted result of the people's voice. The Bad Guys hear us and they are very worried that their time is near an end. But their fear also makes them very dangerous in too many ways to count. So the only advice I have is for us to keep doing exactly what we have been doing,... ignoring them. Their rigged polling, their rigged elections, their bias media, their fearmongering and warmongering are all signs of defeat and I am very encouraged by the awareness of most of the activist supporting Ron Paul.
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:41 am | #

DailyKos Poll Update: Who'd win in the general election?

Hillary Clinton
21%
95 votes

Ron Paul
78%
342 votes

437 votes
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:31 am | #

>>>>2008: Hillary Clinton vs. Ron Paul?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/6/205111/ 3638
by cryptochrome Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 06:47:48 PM PDT
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In 1992, Independent Ross Perot upset the election, bringing in 19% of the vote to Bill Clinton's 43% and George H.W. Bush's 37%. He did this on a populist, Washington-outsider campaign, at one point leading in the polls (which being an incredible flake he promptly lost). Then, as now, Americans were sick to death of electoral pablum. But now, unlike then, thanks to the netroots, we commoners not only have a voice in the polls, we have a voice in the debate. We have questions, we expect answers, and we are not putting up with the usual B.S. Hunter S. Thompson may be dead but his spirit is alive and kicking. This growing influence has given me pause to consider the unthinkable - what if a real grassroots, Washington-outsider candidate could get on the ballot? It's not just exciting to consider - in this stretched out campaign, a grassroots campaign might actually be able to find fertile soil. But there's a catch to that sentiment for the Democrats. Because in this election, the strongest Democrat is Hillary Clinton, arguably the biggest insider to run for office in years. And the candidate with the most vibrant netroots backing is a Republican, Ron Paul.
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What if?
During the 2000 elections, it was a running joke that Al Gore and George W. Bush were virtually identical, with nary a difference in their stated policy. Years later it's clear that in reality nothing could have been farther from the truth - and that the joke was on us. But at the time that viewpoint was not unreasonable. Both Gore and Bush were running their campaigns with the same strategy - maximum caution and minimum risk, aiming to win by as narrow an electoral and popular margin as they dared. The result was the closest presidential election in American history, and an internationally embarassing month long name-calling session that was ultimately resolved in the courts. This was not only the fault of the candidates. It was in fact mostly the fault of the negligent press, who failed to do their job and tell us what we wanted to know - what we NEEDED to know - about the candidate's true political views and commitments. How times have changed. Looking over recent events in both Democratic and Republican parties, it is clear that the power of big media and spin doctors to control the debate is fading fast, and the most significant factor in this erosion of power and explosion of truth are the netroots.

There were many faults with the Democratic YouTube debates (many of which can be laid squarely at Anderson Cooper's feet), but the informality of the questions was not one of them. The questions were offbeat but sharp, goofy but revealing, amateurish but meaningful, personal but seminal. The candidates fell back on their usual talking points as often as they could, but nonetheless found themselves faced with questions they could not easily spin their way. As a result, we actually got meaningful clarifications of position from John Edwards and a significant foreign policy debate between Obama and Clinton (not to mention some delightfully forthright opinions from Joe Biden). Last week, at YearlyKos, we again saw the power of netroots bluntness, when Clinton put her foot in it and was forced to spin her courting of lobbyists. The power of the netroots is most fully seen not by the number of cheers for the candidates, but by the number of boos for positions they'd rather not have liked you to know about and the crap they routinely peddle to cherry-picked audiences. The long-term effect of this can only be positive. Candidates are not only being asked the questions on peoples minds that big media never bothered to ask, they're being expected to answer them. Nor are the voters the only ones who benefit. Politicians themselves are finding the freedom to speak their mind that they never thought they had - case in point, Al Gore.

So what if the grassroots really plays a meaningful role this time?
At the moment, the Democratic field looks unstoppable, with three powerhouse candidates and a relatively strong second tier. In contrast the Republican field is mired in personal controversy, fizzling political capital, and destructive infighting. Despite all this, it doesn't take a genius to see that the game will change entirely once both sides pick their candidates, when the two candidates really start to square off against each other for the american population as a whole rather than inside the narrow confines of primary voters. For the Democrats, the smart money is on Hillary Clinton for the nomination. For the Republicans, the situation is much less certain. Thus far, no candidate has really lept ahead of the pack, or even ahead of their personal failings. As far as I can tell, only two candidates seem to be gaining or holding ground. The first is Mitt Romney, who politically should have been the favorite but made the mistake of being Mormon in a party dominated by Christian fundamentalists. The other is an even-tempered yet iconoclastic libertarian representative from Texas, Ron Paul.

Despite a long record in Congress, Paul is a consummate outsider. His opposition to the war in the Republican field is what catches the eye these days, but his voting record and long-standing policies are what really set him apart - his own party has tried to remove him on multiple occasions opposed him at many turns. He also just so happens to be the darling of YouTube and libertarian-leaning web communities everywhere - and the only candidate to not shy away from the Republican YouTube debates. With every debate he steadily gains funds from small donors and polling percentages. It is improbable that he will win the Republican nomination, but if he did, his support would be from grassroot sources far removed from the traditional Republican base.

In contrast, Hillary Clinton only deviates from the standard electoral playbook in only two respects - her gender and her already remarkably close contact with the White House. Every word out of her mouth is carefully parsed and chosen for maximum spin and palatability. Obama and Edwards, her only serious rivals, are somewhat more daring in their rhetoric and promises, but no more so than you would expect of career politicians trying to move up from second and third place. Her Washingtonian reputation reached its peak recently at YearlyKos, when she actually defended lobbying. While she might be more honest than her competitors, one could not ask for a more serious disconnect with the disaffected American voter. I therefore invite the reader to consider the possibility, however remote, that we could see the following. Hillary Clinton, the consummate insider, vs. Ron Paul, the career outsider. I know how most people on this site would vote, but I ask you to honestly consider how two such different campaigns might play in a general election. Naturally the bases would support their candidates (and/or oppose the other) as usual, but there would be real meaningful difference between the establishment and the anti-establishment, which is where the real battle would be waged. Would Hillary's history and political acumen help or hurt her? Would Paul's unconventional politics sway new voters or dissuade existing ones?
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Poll: Who'd win in the general election?
Hillary Clinton
21%
94 votes

Ron Paul
78%
340 votes

434 votes
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:29 am | #

BREAKING: Works by Monet and Brueghel Stolen by Armed Thieves
http://www.reuters.com/article/e...&rpc=22& sp=true
Armed thieves marched into an open museum in the southern French city of Nice and stole four paintings by Impressionists Monet and Sisley, and Flemish painter Jan Brueghel the Elder, police said on Monday.
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Like the diamond rape at Antwerp, this makes no fucking sense as being anything less than a huge inside job including the insurance companies, security companies, the press.

Who gets screwed...art viewers, insurance rates, more surveillance police power.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:19 am | #

Hitler Secretly Listened to Jewish & Russian Albums
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle2211203.ece
Adolf Hitler, the most notorious champion of Richard Wagner and “racially pure” German music, banished Jewish and Russian musicians from the concert halls of the Third Reich — but apparently listened secretly to their work, it was discovered when his ‘Best Of' discs turned up in a dead Russian soldier’s attic.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:17 am | #

>>>>>DAILYKOS:2008: Hillary Clinton vs. Ron Paul?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/6/205111/ 3638
The strongest Democrat is Hillary Clinton, arguably the biggest insider to run for office in years. And the candidate with the most vibrant netroots backing is a Republican, Ron Paul. What if? Scroll down to cast your vote!
________________________________________
Who'd win in the general election?

Hillary Clinton
22%

94 votes
Ron Paul
78%
339 votes

433 votes
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WAKE UP!!!! WAKE UP!!! WAKE UP!!!

This is on a LIBERAL BLOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:17 am | #

LewRockwell.com Gives Up Tax Exempt Status To Keep Fighting for Ron Paul
http://dailypaul.com/node/1138
Look, Blumert," the lawyer told me. "There's nothing complex here. Ron Paul is a big problem for you people." So I responded: BLUMERT: You can ’t imagine how strange that sounds. Ron is a problem only to the moribund political establishment, and their cowardly media. At LewRockwell.com (LRC) we revere Ron Paul and regard him as a modern day Thomas Jefferson
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:13 am | #

Air Force Draws Weekend Cyberwarriors From Microsoft, Cisco
http://www.wired.com/politics/se...s/2007/08/ 262nd
"We must be prepared to defeat our enemies by using combined arms -- air, ground, sea, space, and cyber weapons systems."
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:13 am | #

Who Had More Supporters in Iowa - Mitt Romney or Ron Paul? You Decide.
http://dailypaul.com/node/1142
Looks like there's a ton more Paul supporters, they pwn the Mitt guys. But wait, look at the biased old media coverage; that's weird, they make it look like Paul had one lonely supporter... Bias anyone?
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:12 am | #

The FBI Can’t Link Bin Laden to 9/11? Why Is This Not News?
http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive...s-this-not- news
The statement saying the FBI had no hard evidence was released in June of 2006. The implication is that the FBI doesn ’t believe the video constitutes hard evidence of Bin Laden’s involvement.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:12 am | #

Ron Paul's Wise Foreign Policy
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8...rig8/ fisk5.html
While Dr. Paul has sometimes mentioned it, I don t think his introduction of two bills in particular can be stressed enough. The bills, had they been adopted and passed, might have allowed the U.S. to avoid the disasters in Afghanistan and Iraq and more than likely would have by now resulted in the capture of Osama bin Laden
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:11 am | #

HONK if you love Ron Paul! [Video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?v=Klj- 9Dtm9PM
On an overpass, a Youtuber films a family of Ron Paul supporters getting honks from cars.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:11 am | #

Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 12:34 am | #
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>>>>>>>>>Massive ULF ‘Blast’ Detected In US Bridge Collapse Catastrophe August 2, 2007
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/in...m/ index1026.htm
Reports from Russia’s Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics located in Irkutsk are reporting today that their Siberian Solar Radio Telescope (SSRT) detected a ‘massive’ ultra low frequency (ULF) ‘blast’ emanating from Latitude: 45° 00' North Longitude: 93° 15' West at the ‘exact’ moment, and location, of a catastrophic collapse of a nearly 2,000 foot long bridge in Minneapolis, Minnesota. To the horrific destruction of the Interstate 35W Bridge which spanned the Mississippi River we can read as reported by the Star Tribune News Service:

"The 1,907-foot bridge fell into the Mississippi River and onto roadways below. The span was packed with rush hour traffic, and dozens of vehicles fell with the bridge leaving scores of dazed commuters scrambling for their lives. Nine people were confirmed dead as of 4 a.m. today. Sixty were taken to hospitals and 20 people were still missing this morning. Authorities said they expected the death toll to rise."

Russian Military reports state that the total collapse of such a massive bridge, and in the absence of evidence linking its destruction to terrorist activity, could only have been accomplished by an acoustic weapon, of which the United States Military is known to possess. These reports further state that one of the United States primary research organizations into acoustic weapons research is Augsburg College, and which is located in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and most importantly less than 1 mile from the Interstate 35W Bridge collapse. To the exact reason of why, and what exactly happened in this catastrophe we can only speculate, but, with what is known about the United States past history of using sophisticated weapons on their own citizens for ‘research’ purposes it certainly lies in the realm of possibility that this horrific tragedy is rooted in the use of ULF weapons.

To the past usage of these new types of weapons we can read even back into the 1980’s of the United States research into their use as reported by the CNN News Service:

"Imagine the implications of a weapon with no visible trace -- a weapon that could knock out tanks, ships, and planes as fast as the speed of light. The same technology, with modifications, could disorient and even tranquilize military personnel, rendering them virtually helpless in the battle zone. These are the new weapons of war we will examine in this series. For the past 40 years, the world has been riveted by the threat of nuclear war, and more recently by the prospect of space defenses using lasers and other modern technologies. Lightning is the most dramatic form of energy to be found in nature. Scientists have succeeded in creating limited types of artificial lightning. And some think that these could be the forerunners of a new type of directed-energy weapon, part of a family of weapons that operate within the radio frequency segment of the electromagnetic spectrum, and are thus referred to as radio frequency weapons."

To the dangers of ULF weapons being used against civilians we can read the warnings of Dr. Rauni Leena Kilde, MD, the former Chief Medical Officer for Lapland (northern Finland), who warned in 1999:

"When the use of electromagnetic fields, extra-low (ELF) and ultra-low (ULF) frequencies and microwaves aimed deliberately at certain individuals, groups, and even the general population to cause diseases, disorientation, chaos and physical and emotional pain breaks into the awareness of the general population, a public outcry is inevitable."
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[Sane Note: I do not agree with the last paragraph of the article at all, I do however believe that the $1.6 Trillion bill to improve US infrastructure is a major reason for this false flag attack. I also feel that the NAFTA SuperHighway is another reason. I further do not know if it had to be an energy weapon, however the lack of independent investigation makes it difficult to evaluate how this false flag occured.]
To the exact reason of why the United States would be targeting Minneapolis with such a massive ULF ‘blast’ we can find in the exact neighborhoods that surround the Interstate 35W Bridge, and which are home to one of the largest Muslim populations in the United States, including over 30,000 Somalis who are outraged by the US sponsored invasion of their home Nation by Ethiopian forces. For the American people as a whole, this catastrophe provides yet another example of the consequences of their allowing their Military Forces to gain total control over their economy and lives, and which history has long shown leads always towards total destruction.

[Ed. Note: The United States government actively seeks to find, and silence, any and all opinions about the United States except those coming from authorized government and/or affiliated sources, of which we are not one. No interviews are granted and very little personal information is given about our contributors, or their sources, to protect their safety.]
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:20 am | #

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>>>>>>Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Does Not Disclose Hillary Clinton Conflict Of Interest In WP/ABC Iowa Poll That Ranked Ron Paul Second To Last
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From Washington Post:
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Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project.
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Selzer and Company Lists Wal-Mart as one of their top customers and promotes that they use "art" as well as facts when creating polls.
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J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
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Hillary Clinton Served On Wal-Mart Board Of Directors For 6 Years.
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Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart for a Six-year tenure
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/2...f3a9c40& ei=5070
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Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Never Disclosed This Relationship And Obvious Conflict Of Interest.
This shows that not only is Hillary Clinton have the capability to be connected to companies that can manipulate elections on various levels, she audaciously does not disclose these connections. Reminds me of Bush, Arbusto, and Bin Laden.
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Because of Ron Paul's consistent stand on the Iraq war [the largest issue facing Americans], he has been seen as the only GOP candidate that can beat front runner Hillary Clinton.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07candefeat.htm
http://www.gambling911.com/Onlin...aul- 052207.html
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../25/ 289229.aspx
http://www.buchanan.org/blog/?p=787
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au...ent/2007/06/12/
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This answers any question of motif as to why Hillary would hide conflicts of interest between her and the Washington Post/ABC Iowa Poll that was used to:
1]Present an image of who is in the upper and lower tier of GOP Presidential Candidates so that more attention by the audience is given to those at the supposed upper tier.
2]Somehow justify Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos [another obvious conflict of interest-but a disclosed one] only allowing a total of 2 minutes to Dr. Ron Paul in a 90 minute debate. He even revealed to all the viewers that he controlled the "green light" which timed candidates responses.
3]Overlook the prevention of Dr. Ron Paul to present his argument regarding healthcare [he is the only physician running and might have some information for the American people on this topic] and taxes [where he always reveals the illegal inflation tax that other candidates will not mention].
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These obviously powerful and compelling methods of creating artificial barriers in the election process should be disclosed to the American people so that our entire presidential election process is not compromised further than we have seen in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006. To see clearly whether or not we are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, this might be the first place to investigate
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:19 am | #

and then there was one....
Good night
and
Good luck
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 1:17 am | #

Only two of us here.
Hmmmmmm.........
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 1:13 am | #

Ron Paul Wins Drudge Report Iowa GOP Debate Poll
http://votewritein.blogspot.com/...t-iowa- gop.html
Following the GOP debate in Iowa yesterday DrudgeReport.com had their usual poll asking readers who won the debate. Below are the results of that poll which was pulled down sometime between 6:30pm EST and 8:00pm EST.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 12:38 am | #

Massive ULF ‘Blast’ Detected In US Bridge Collapse Catastrophe

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/in...m/ index1026.htm

You need to scroll down a bit for this story.
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 12:34 am | #

Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 2:17 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 12:31 am | #

JBird...

CONCERNING ROMNEY DROPPING THE 9/11 WHISPER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEABTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...h?v=3rSsv- Ncfa0

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sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 11:21 pm | #

I am loading match .308 moly to break in a buddies new savage bull barrel. This week .223 and .44 and .45........never have too much.
And 200 more .300 win mag match @200 grain HPBT. All match loads. Same stuff I did under one inch 4 shot group at 600 yards with. Get ready.
There's a storm coming.
Pretty good show on Alex today. On now.
Henry Bowman | 08.06.07 - 11:02 pm | #

Anti-semitism: against favoritism toward Jews.

Now why the hell would someone go to jail for not being for favoritism toward anyone!?

You know people are so fucked up in there heads they deserve what they get for being so damm stupid.
cuda | 08.06.07 - 8:51 pm | #

and NAZI-ISREAL uses the "youre anti semitic" smokescreen all the time. they are not JEWISH,
they are NAZI's posing as JEWS.
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 9:32 pm | #

I read this and thought it was interesting so I put it up for fun.
What does the term antisemitism mean?
Semitism means favoritism toward Jews (or semetic people)
Anti: Against
Anti-semitism: against favoritism toward Jews.

Now why the hell would someone go to jail for not being for favoritism toward anyone!?

You know people are so fucked up in there heads they deserve what they get for being so damm stupid.
cuda | 08.06.07 - 8:51 pm | #

I can shoot a walnut out of a tree.
I know for a fact that I can shoot an asshole in the neck.
Aim for the head man, the Bastards wear body armor!
oldman | 08.06.07 - 8:05 pm | #

with God as my witness, if that Bastard Bush puts troops on the streets of my town there will be a gun fight.
All of my family and friends live out in the country.
We live in the Ozark mountains.
If they come for us, it will be a gun battle.
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 8:00 pm | #

grease your guns boys!
we're gonna need em
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 7:56 pm | #

Alex says the gov. is in la la land.
I laughed my ass off.
Alex is right.
Fuck Bush
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 7:51 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...807_b_Yahoo.htm

Congress probes Yahoo! for helping China imprison reporter

oh doesnt that sound nice.. fookin hipocrits!!
they just passed "el busho's" super spying program against the American people but theyre going to pretend they give a damn by "probing" YAHOO over someone being imprisoned in CHINA?! you know what, congress needs to dig a deep hole, crawl into it and pull the dirt in over themselves.
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 7:15 pm | #

part 2 :

meantime, back in time, to NAZI GERMANY...
wealthier people (inclusive to wealthier jewish people) were allowed to leave NAZI GERMANY, but the only allowed destination is now known as ISREAL, where the NAZI's had total control. the area was named Isreal AFTER WW2. the US had operation paperclip to bring NAZI ROCKET SCIENTISTS, and SOCIAL ENGINEERS (propaganda and brainwashing artists) here to America, they have played a major part in our POLITICS AND NEWS MEDIA ever since. (Henry Kissinger as an example?)
why do you think the US government gives NAZI ISREAL anything they want?
maybe because theyre part of the SAME NAZI MACHINE?

and back to the present:
politicians destroying the constitution as fast as they can, corporations moving overseas leaving the people unemployed, the prison industry the fastest growing business in the US anymore. Cheney giving halliburton/kbr a 385 million per year no-bid contract to build 800+ NAZI STYLE concentration camps for FEMA on American soil..
-as bush tries again and again to pass amnesty for 30 million illegal immigrants, contrary to laws that have been in place long before his own grandpa was busted for being a traitor for funding nazi's.

all the information and a whole lot more IS available, but you wont get it in the TV nightly news, for yourself and others, you need to look into it all for yourself.
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 2:17 pm | #

heres another might be worth spreadin around:

Member since: June 03, 2007
Total points: 165 (Level 1)
Points earned this week:
--% Best answer

informed
S
heres the basics:

prescott (grandpa) BUSH was busted along with several others funding NAZI GERMANY.
BUSH SENIOR was CIA and ran Air America, a private airline, (just like the movie with Mel Gibson, why do ya think they try to demonize Mel?) trading weapons for opium.
when uncle RONNY REAGAN was president and BUSH SENIOR was president, we had oliver north / noriega (we PUT in power) trading weapons for cocaine, with shipments being flown into MENA ARKANSAS where BILLYBOY CLINTON was governor. NANCY REAGAN got on the podium with the "just say no" campaign, reverse psychology advertizing drugs for SOMEONE who had a LOT to sell.. allright ?
(remember john hinkley shot reagan, hinkley family is bush buddies)
BUSH SENIOR as president, had set up the TALIBAN to grow a lot of OPIUM, they proposed an OIL PIPELINE through their turf, when they were going to get a lesser cut, the TALIBAN BURNED the OPIUM CROPS and were demonized by the media. the US GOVT, put SADDAM HUSSEIN into power back when as well. (like noriega)
when CLINTON was president he was near being run up a flagpole for things when he was governor.. investigations were underway, and he dodged that bullet by marching out monica lewinski and a stained blue dress!!
there is ZERO difference between the BUSH's and CLINTONS, they are DRUG DEALING MURDEROUS SCUM !! bush seniors little buddy donald rumsfeld, and dick (tater) cheney.. former CEO of HALLIBURTON.. gave halliburton 385 million a year contracts to build over 800 FEMA CAMPS, NAZI STYLE CONCENTRATION CAMPS ON AMERICAN SOIL !! halliburton just moved to dubai, and they built the oil refineries that were on the back of saddam's money btw. is it begining to make sense yet ?
please start learning about politics, drugs, the police state.
the prison industry the fastest growing in the nation, all by design. I never heard of crack before I saw it on the NEWS
(yes the mainstream media is complicit to these criminals)

if hillary gets into office it will be more business as usual, destroying America as fast as possible.
daddy's little war criminal dubya.. signed the USA into the SPP to make a North American Union , like the EU (european union) ILLEGALLY !! TREASONOUSLY !!
anything the "corporations" want.. but behind the corporate smokescreens, its a handfull of "elite global bankers" whose philosophy is all about fascism and genocide.
if you think this is all tinfoil hattery, you need to start researching it all yourself.

Source(s):

the clinton chronicles
JFK to BUSH connection
www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 1:38 pm | #

>>>>>>Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Does Not Disclose Hillary Clinton Conflict Of Interest In WP/ABC Iowa Poll That Ranked Ron Paul Second To Last
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From Washington Post:
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Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project.
______________________________
Selzer and Company Lists Wal-Mart as one of their top customers and promotes that they use "art" as well as facts when creating polls.
______________________________
J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
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Hillary Clinton Served On Wal-Mart Board Of Directors For 6 Years.
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Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart for a Six-year tenure
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/2...05/2...f3a9c40& ei=5070
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Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Never Disclosed This Relationship And Obvious Conflict Of Interest.
This shows that not only is Hillary Clinton have the capability to be connected to companies that can manipulate elections on various levels, she audaciously does not disclose these connections. Reminds me of Bush, Arbusto, and Bin Laden.
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Because of Ron Paul's consistent stand on the Iraq war [the largest issue facing Americans], he has been seen as the only GOP candidate that can beat front runner Hillary Clinton.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07candefeat.htm
http://www.gambling911.com/Onlin...aul- 052207.html
http://www.godlikeproductions.co...s.co...=8/3/07& forum=1
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../25/ 289229.aspx
http://www.buchanan.org/blog/?p=787
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au...ent/2007/06/12/
http://groups.google.com/group/a...roup/ a...1fe3f1? lnk=raot
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This answers any question of motif as to why Hillary would hide conflicts of interest between her and the Washington Post/ABC Iowa Poll that was used to:
1]Present an image of who is in the upper and lower tier of GOP Presidential Candidates so that more attention by the audience is given to those at the supposed upper tier.
2]Somehow justify Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos [another obvious conflict of interest-but a disclosed one] only allowing a total of 2 minutes to Dr. Ron Paul in a 90 minute debate. He even revealed to all the viewers that he controlled the "green light" which timed candidates responses.
______________________________
These obviously powerful and compelling methods of creating artificial barriers in the election process should be disclosed to the American people so that our entire presidential election process is not compromised further than we have seen in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006. To see clearly whether or not we are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, this might be the first place to investigate.

SANE's post was so great there I've copy/paste reposted it at least a dozen other places this morning. TY SANE !!
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 1:34 pm | #

More people need to understand what a collapse actually looks like.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:40 pm |
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Well, I can't be of much help when it comes to a natural collapse BUT take a look at this collection of CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS set to music (poison) // Enjoy (that may not be the right word):
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/17...732/demolition/
jbrid1138 | 08.06.07 - 1:30 pm | #

That Romney is a jerk. Did you guys catch him trying his best to interrupt Ron Paul by speaking out of turn and saying "Yeah, but what about 9/11?"

I wish Ron Paul had stopped and taken advantage of that invite and off loaded everything there is to know about 9/11 -- all the scientific 'explosive' evidence regarding the collapse of the three buildings at the WTC site, the round hole inside the West wall of the Pentagon, a large number of the hijackers still alive, the 8-mile debris field for flight 93 a flight that was 'supposedly' crashed, the obvious stand down by Cheney and Myers and Rumsfeld, the President sitting and reading about a pet goat while the secret service looked on undisturbed that our country was then under attack or where or who the next target might be, four allegedly hijacked airplanes and no evidence to support even where one can be identified -- those kind of things about 9/11.

And then for good measure since Guiliani was standing on the same damn stage // remind everyone that Guiliani clearly stated that he had advance knowledge that the towers were coming down, something that had never before in history before or after 9/11 ever happened before. Clearly said he knew on the day of 9/11 but now seems to have forgotten he said such a remark. Might as well throw in all that advance knowledge our government possessed prior to 9/11 yet did nothing to prepare or prevent such an attack.

If he (Romney) meant that about 9/11 (??) -- then Ron Paul should have knocked his socks off with it. Maybe then the jerk (Romney) wouldn't look quite so arrogant and pompous (as in pompous ass) and try and speak out of turn about something he only thinks he knows. Or do you think he just might, being a favorite among the in-crowd.

No, I think he's just a creep like a couple others standing there upon that stage running for the highest office in our land. Once gangsters got hold of the controls, they feel they can do any damn thing -- even be our President.

Change that attitude and vote Ron Paul 2008.
jbrid1138 | 08.06.07 - 1:20 pm | #

Poor Construction - Building Collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...uTu59fv7V0& NR=1
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Notice how it all happened at the speed of gravity

Notice that if fell into its footprint

Notice the "cauliflower" smoke clouds rather than the dark mist.

Notice how all the evidence vanished

Notice the pools of molten metal

Notice that this building was constucted with a reinforced core just like the WTC

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Yeah I know it is a small shoddy building, but that might be the point. Even this shoddy building seems to be stronger as it falls than the WTC was on 9/11/2001

More people need to understand what a collapse actually looks like.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:40 pm | #

The 41 House Dems Who Voted For Bush's Domestic Spying Program
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/5/01943/ 25391
41 House Democrats voted to roll over on the eavesdropping amendment that the White House demanded be added to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The bill, Orwellianly named the Protect America Act, passed 227-183, with 181 Democrats and two Republicans opposed. These are the Dems who ... failed us. Who failed our country ...
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:03 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...60807Nadler.htm

CLASSIC !!!
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Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 10:52 am | #

Congressman Ron Paul's Secret Revealed
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8...ig8/ haman3.html
The secret behind Ron Paul's enthusiastic supporters -- his principles and his personal integrity.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 9:30 am | #

Ron Paul endorsements:
http://rationalactivism.com/ronp...l-endorsements/
Michael Badnarik - 2004 Libertarian Party Presidential candidate
Chuck Baldwin - 2004 Constitution Party Vice-Presidential candidate
Jim Clymer - Constitution Party National Chair
Jim Guest - Missouri State Representative, District 5
Barbara Hagan - Long time right-to-life activist and former two-term New Hampshire state representative
Steve Kubby - 2008 Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate
Karen Kwiatkowski - Retired U.S. Air Force Lt. Colonel
Michael Peroutka - 2004 Constitution Party Presidential Candidate
Justin Raimondo - 1996 Republican Congressional candidate in California and editorial director of Antiwar.com
Michael Charles Smith - 2008 Republican Party Presidential candidate
United Republicans of California
Walter Block, Ph.D. - Professor of Economics at Loyola University and Fellow at the Mises Institute
Gary Galles, Ph.D. - Professor of Economics at Pepperdine University
Thomas Woods, Ph.D. - Author and resident historian at the Mises Institute
Vox Day - Political columnist
Bill Dumas - Hollywood producer
John Derbyshire - Political columnist
Alex Jones - radio host
Devvy Kidd - Political columnist
Aaron Russo - Hollywood film producer
Gary B. Smith - Fox News economics commentator
Joseph Sobran - Political columnist
Andrew Napolitano - Fox Senior Judicial Analyst and Superior Court Judge for New Jersey
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 9:27 am | #

"The US is really beyond reason now.
It is beyond our imagining to know what they are going to do next and what they are prepared to do.
There is only one comparison: Nazi Germany."
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at least sane has the true scope of this country.
thanks sane.
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 8:56 am | #

>>>>>>Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Does Not Disclose Hillary Clinton Conflict Of Interest In WP/ABC Iowa Poll That Ranked Ron Paul Second To Last
______________________________
From Washington Post:
______________________________
Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project.
______________________________
Selzer and Company Lists Wal-Mart as one of their top customers and promotes that they use "art" as well as facts when creating polls.
______________________________
J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
______________________________
Hillary Clinton Served On Wal-Mart Board Of Directors For 6 Years.
______________________________
Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart for a Six-year tenure
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/2...f3a9c40& ei=5070
______________________________
Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Never Disclosed This Relationship And Obvious Conflict Of Interest.
This shows that not only is Hillary Clinton have the capability to be connected to companies that can manipulate elections on various levels, she audaciously does not disclose these connections. Reminds me of Bush, Arbusto, and Bin Laden.
______________________________
Because of Ron Paul's consistent stand on the Iraq war [the largest issue facing Americans], he has been seen as the only GOP candidate that can beat front runner Hillary Clinton.
______________________________
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07candefeat.htm
http://www.gambling911.com/Onlin...aul- 052207.html
http://www.godlikeproductions.co...=8/3/07& forum=1
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../25/ 289229.aspx
http://www.buchanan.org/blog/?p=787
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au...ent/2007/06/12/
http://groups.google.com/group/a...1fe3f1? lnk=raot
______________________________
This answers any question of motif as to why Hillary would hide conflicts of interest between her and the Washington Post/ABC Iowa Poll that was used to:
1]Present an image of who is in the upper and lower tier of GOP Presidential Candidates so that more attention by the audience is given to those at the supposed upper tier.
2]Somehow justify Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos [another obvious conflict of interest-but a disclosed one] only allowing a total of 2 minutes to Dr. Ron Paul in a 90 minute debate. He even revealed to all the viewers that he controlled the "green light" which timed candidates responses.
______________________________
These obviously powerful and compelling methods of creating artificial barriers in the election process should be disclosed to the American people so that our entire presidential election process is not compromised further than we have seen in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006. To see clearly whether or not we are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, this might be the first place to investigate
______________________________

These
______________________________
Are we going to let Hillary Clinton control the GOP Presidential Candidate for President in 2008?
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:28 am | #

DIFFERENCE.

Vietnam was a scheme for the MIC and profiteers. This was obvious, televised, news media, spoken of in schools of higher education.
Demonstrated against,marched against,Etc. The draft was in effect, millions of innocents were killed, and our troops in the thousands.Students were killed at Kent State Univeristy, demonstrators were beaten, D Elsberg came forward. And most impotantly, JFK & RFK both were murdered soley becasue they were against the war, they would not join the team.. JFK had begun to mention withdrawal and RFk was outspoken against the war.
Fact we knew, though no one was ever charged with a crime for profits gained and power manipulated. 10 years to bring it to a stop.
Human Sacrifice for power and money.
911, WMD's, who in their right mind and soul would even consider Taliban and his camel jocks pulled of 911 after witnesing the demolition.After seeing the photos of the Pentagon.
Where were the WMD's, they did not exist. Yet our bombs are murdering a population of innocents, over 850,000 dead . And our volunteer troops with less rights than those drafted in Vietnam. The news media is silent and spineless, controled, no funerals are shown, dissenters have been threatened, mercenarys are hired, our congress both Democrat and Republican are moraly useless and have betrayed their oath.( Party seperation is indistinguishable)
The military upper echelon is bowing to their political masters. They are moral cowards, and betrayed the oath to protect the const, and defend against domestic enemies.
It is human sacrifice, the word is getting out, people are waking up, but i fear the ultiamte solution to this Elite criminal gang will test mens souls.
chris jones | 08.06.07 - 8:22 am | #

Complete Apollo photo archive now available after 40 years
http://asunews.asu.edu/node/730
For nearly 40 years, the complete photographic record from the Apollo moon project sat in a freezer at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, almost untouched, until now. A new digital archive – created through a collaboration between ASU and NASA – is making available on the Internet high-resolution scans of original Apollo flight films.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:06 am | #

>>>>>>Ron Paul at debate on ABC ONLY 2 min in 90 min Debate - Aug 5, 2007
First 2 segments on ABC debate with George Stephanopoulos...Ron Paul ABC stephanopoulos debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=NKNaFGDuuUg
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Rudy Has No Clue About Health Care 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?v=9qVrokl3- 2I
Rudy Lies About His Second Amendment And Pro Life Stand 52 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h? v=YJfbQh547o4
Gov. Romney: Is Clueless About Military [Ron Paul has most active duty supporters], Economy [He inherits $300 million, how does he know?], and Family [Separates children from families in African juevenille rape rooms] 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h? v=vvtJDBnm0O4
Gov. Romney: My Biggest Mistake was thinking people won't see what a fraud I am 23 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=H0te3KeuZaU
Gov. Romney: I Think The President Has Kept Us Safe Because I Do Not Read The Intelligence Reports 32 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eqbx7vk1MQg
Gov. Romney: Fix It First So I Can Break Something New 53 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=u44cnqqqdS4
Gov. Romney: I Think Pakistan Is A Moderate Muslim State 2 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (4 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h? v=tXeclPzdlno
Gov. Romney: I Will Continue To Believe In Outlandish Conspiracy Theories About Radical Jihad As An Excuse To Nuke The Middle East And Lock Up American Citizens 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eYZHITSAdWM
Gov. Romney: I Am Financially Personally Responsible For My Healthcare As I Have $300 Million 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h? v=WnX5ZsmRgT8
Gov. Romney: We Need A Surge of Support For Me That Is Why I Purchase Poll Results Like the One In Iowa 38 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h? v=2e9rKP0Ssqk
Gov. Romney On Sen. Obama: Jane Fonda To Doctor Strangelove Is The Extent Of My Simple Mind, Proving I cannot Tackle Complex Issues 37 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (5 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h? v=z80ss1F6FV8
Gov Romney Backpeddles On Sen. Brownback's Factual Statements 4 min - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FPboc61AZes

GE/AOL/Disney/NewsCorp/NationalAmusement [CNN/CNNHeadline/MSNBC/ABC/NBC/CNBC/FOX/FoxNews/ CBS] Blackout all news of Republican Debate.

Anyone who says there is no conspiracy against sovereignty and The Constitution has lost their fricking mind.
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Raw Footage:
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 1 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h? v=XcWHyxAj68o
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 2 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h?v=EAklv1Z- ZEg
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 3 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h? v=lgRuuWZKrbg
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 4 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h? v=0ZVz09rE2sA
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 5 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=TvCXNQ6D8R4
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 6 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?v=KKYv- QFXkXU
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:04 am | #

>>>ABC EXPOSED AS CRIMINALLY MISLEADING TO FIX AMERICAN ELECTIONS

>>>>>>>>ABC Cites Rigged Washington Post Poll to Discredit Ron Paul
http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/08...redit-ron-paul/
Rat Says: This is comical, to open the debate and introduce the candidates, ABC uses a poll from the Washington Post that actually had a sample size of 100 !!! No doubt these cherry picked samples are not exactly representative of the voting population. Over 70% of those questioned have never used a computer to access their chosen candidate’s web sites. Yet ABC quotes these numbers which have Ron Paul at 2%, as if they were from a legitimate poll. This is criminally misleading, ABC is trying to decide our election.

Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project. *= less than 0.5 percent
__________________________________________________ ____
1. (FOR SCREENING PURPOSES) Are you registered to vote in Iowa at your present address, or not?
7/31/07
Yes - 100
No - 0
No Opinion - 0
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10. So far in the Republican campaign, have you (ITEM)?
a. Been called on the telephone by any of the campaigns 63 36 *
Yes - 63
No - 36
No Opinion - *
b. Attended a campaign event 23 77 *
Yes - 23
No - 77
No Opinion - *
c. Contributed money to any of the presidential candidates 10 90 *
Yes - 10
No - 90
No Opinion - *
d. Visited any of the candidates’ Web sites on the Internet 28 72 0
Yes - 28
No - 72
No Opinion - 0
e. Received e-mails from any of the campaigns 24 74 1
Yes - 24
No - 74
No Opinion - 1
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TNS of Horsham, Pa.
http://www.tnstelecoms.com/ [Subsidiary of TNS Website - CAUTION: Their Main Website for TNS has Phishisng Spyware, Leechware, do not go to it.]
TNS Telecoms is the world's largest telecom market information company. TNS Telecoms is part of TNS, whose international network of more than 100 offices provides market information services to national and multi-national organizations in over 80 countries. Building on our ongoing syndicated data collection, TNS Telecoms offers a variety of products for the business and residential telecom marketplace. Our clients, which include major worldwide telecom service providers, rely on us for accurate information from an unbiased perspective to help them stay ahead in this complex, fast-changing industry. We distinguish ourselves as the source for the greatest depth, breadth, and scope of telecom market intelligence on local, long distance, wireless, satellite/cable TV, Internet, and broadband issues. Our innovative solutions, combined with strategic partnerships, are helping telecom businesses answer the tough questions facing the telecommunications industry.

J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
_____________________________________________
The whole poll is comical, look at how 73% of those polls were satisfied with the Republican candidates.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:00 am | #

1984 BBC film on Nuclear War
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash....in/ threads.html
Threads is a 1984 BBC television docudrama depicting the effects of a nuclear war on the United Kingdom and its aftermath.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:58 am | #

To: The American People - From: Saddam Hussein - 07/2006
http://www.sloopo.com/index.php/...hussein-072006/
Long letter written right before his death... somewhat interesting read.
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Saddam Hussein’s Letter to the American People

…People of America, the misfortunes that have afflicted you and afflicted our Arab Nation and within it our heroic Iraqi people – including the breakdown of America’s standing and reputation – were only caused by the reckless behavior of your government and by pressure from Zionism and power centers that influenced the government to commit those crimes and scandalous actions for specific ends that have nothing to do with the interest of the American peoples. The massacres and blood that now flows in the streets and countryside of Iraq in torrents – the responsibility for that falls on America before all others. You know, or rather you have now come to learn, that neither the stooges whom the American forces brought in on board their aircraft or as shamefaced presents aboard their tanks, nor Iran, which pushed and still pushes forward those who support it and whom they support, would be able to cause the bloodshed, or the destruction of the honor, and property of our people and our state had not America undertaken the aggression and invasion and issued the orders. It is still issuing orders in the Green Zone. Therefore America bears the burden of all those crimes and outrages. So, will you put an end to what is going on by using the methods of direct truth without evasion and digression? Or will you invite the machine of death to continue to eat away at the flesh of Iraqis and the flesh of Americans without doing anything to resolve this?

It is your historical responsibility, esteemed ladies and gentlemen. If you reform, you could save what remains of the standing and reputation of America and its legitimate interests. If you do nothing, you will be keeping silent over something evil. “God grant us patient perseverance and let us die as Muslims.” [Qur’an, 7:126]

People of America, the wars that your government promotes in the world – one of them being the war in Iraq – with input from certain centers of power – which you know better than we – are not in the interests of the American people. You know better than many how you paid in blood so that you might liberate yourselves from British colonialism and after that how the United States of America was unified and what rivers of blood were shed in order for that to come about. So, esteemed ladies and gentlemen, how do you accept this interference that abases America before it abases Iraq? How can you accept not only the invasion but becoming mired in the internal affairs of Iraq? You know that Iraq is a land of prophets, messengers, and righteous figures. You know that Baghdad is the fourth holiest city in the Arab homeland – after Mecca, al-Madinah, and Jerusalem – in the sight of all of the Islamic world and all of our Arab Nation. How can one imagine that Iraq could reconcile itself to colonial rule, even if it comes, this time, under another name and with other slogans? Save your country, esteemed ladies and gentlemen, and leave Iraq.

Peace.

God is greatest. God is greatest.

[signed] Saddam Hussein, President of the Republic of Iraq and Commander in Chief of the Mujahid Armed Forces.
7 July 2006.
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Source of entire letter:
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m24800
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I have no knowledge of the validity and it almost seems too scripted [like White House MSM].

No matter whether or not Saddam wrote it, the words are compelling.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:58 am | #

Go Ron Paul!
Louis | 08.06.07 - 7:57 am | #

Al-Jazeera offers News Diversity in the U.S
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/ f834e096...00779fd2ac.html
Ignored or shunned by almost every cable provider in the US, the al-Jazeera English news channel has turned to the internet in an effort to reach American viewers – with much more success.
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This is how bad the MSM has gotten, people are now going to AL-Jazeera to get a flavor of anything besides WHite House scripted news.

The MSM is a communist state run media.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:54 am | #

As Economy booms , UAE set to unveil a Billion Dollar Grand Mosque (Pics)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zay...129857975/show/
Ex-Ruler of UAE Sheikh Zayed Bin Sultan Al Nahyan is buried at same site.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:52 am | #

The Militarization of Amerikan Police
http://legalliberty.blogspot.com...kan- police.html
Local American police forces are now armed with tanks, rocket launchers, and fully automatic machine guns. Since we know that militaries do not "protect and serve" - they kill people and break things -, it's fair to ask: against whom exactly would your increasingly-militarized neighborhood police officer use a tank? For what purpose?
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:49 am | #

U.S.-French lab in spotlight over foot and mouth
http://uk.reuters.com/article/ to...037131720070805
A U.S.-French pharmaceutical company was at the heart of an investigation by British authorities on Sunday to try to find the source of an outbreak of highly infectious foot and mouth disease.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:47 am | #

centralized government.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.06.07 - 3:34 am | #

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A centralized government is necessary for the survival of its citizens, however, as you mentioned powerfull, a government must maintian militray power of defense only.
Power over its people of the majority is not democracy, it is dictatorship. This Government has raised itself above the people,the commoner, and become demigods.
Bush,( either you with me or against Me)
chris jones | 08.06.07 - 7:47 am | #

>>>Rumsfeld finally gets asked real questions about cover ups and reveals something huge!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...pen-thread-553/
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:44 am | #

I'm telling you Lincoln was not a hero!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.06.07 - 3:36 am | #
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Notwithstanding Lincoln's issues, he was a learned man, was sabatoged in his attempt to end the civil war quickly, and was executed for failing to enslave the American people even further.

In addition, JFK was a fine NWO tool, until he realized more about the Federal Reserve and secret societies' impact on the future of American and was also executed for failing to further enslave the American people.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:37 am | #

Perhaps we should cease referring to it as Main Stream Media (MSM), and simply call it what it is Manipulated Media.
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 7:06 am | #

the president has exerted godlike powers. Time for those powers to be curtailed.

I'm telling you Lincoln was not a hero!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.06.07 - 3:36 am | #

Your information is correct, it is also necessary to mention the the south was affluent due to most part of the use of slaves. This was a moral issue at the time, especialy for northerners of who many were abolishionists.
The issue delivered to the people was in fact the abolishment of slavery. A inhuman cruelty praaticed not only in the south, but in many other countrys as well. By the way it still exists, not only with blacks. Back to my point. The people, Notherners were convinced their cause a noble one, freeing the oppresed, liberating slavery. And yes it was, although other motives were involved. Primarlily money. Behind every war is profit, or in fact war would not exist. Yes, the people , northerners liberated the slaves, this was the note on which the war was played. Again, the South was financialy solvent and independent to the point of concession. The civil war, brother against brother family against family must have been human suffering beyond our understanding today.
The banging of the drums, the rhetoric and the propaganda, to mention the righteous cause was the token banner given to the people. Underneath this were motives the politicians were well aware of.
History taught to our children is Federaly controled,therfor slanted to with images that are not contrary to our Gov.
For example, they will tell children of the savegry of ancient times, wars for gains of power, pillaging, etc. These facts appear to be ancient crimes to the children, it is next to impossible for them to see that the nature of man has not changed. Human sacrifice for profit, blood for wealth and power.
Children a putty in the hands of the usurpers, this is the connection between mind and soul, let them not enter the souls of our youth. As you know the key to control is the mind, the greatest loss is connection to ones soul.
chris jones | 08.06.07 - 6:54 am | #

Delving further into Lincoln’s career as a lawyer, DiLorenzo pointed out how Lincoln served as a railroad lobbyist and represented all the big railroad companies, including Illinois Central on a property-tax case, for which he presented the company with a $5,000 bill. Lincoln also received kickbacks from land deals in Council Bluffs, Iowa.

More significantly, DiLorenzo, in a chapter called “The Politics of the Lincoln Cult,” outlines the political uses of the legend, and how both political parties, Democrats and Republicans, rely on Lincoln as an excuse for bad behavior. DiLorenzo pointed to the work of another scholar, Frank Meyer, who made the case that Lincoln made possible the further trashing of the Constitution, and even established such trashing as a precedent. Almost makes Dick Cheney look like a truthful soul. Almost.

In any case, Lincoln Unmasked sounds and looks like a book that anybody who cares about real American history — not the effluvia served up in public schools — should have on their bookshelf. Indeed, the deification of the president began with Lincoln; ever since, the president has exerted godlike powers. Time for those powers to be curtailed.

I'm telling you Lincoln was not a hero!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.06.07 - 3:36 am | #

In another of the book’s chapters, “The Truth About States’ Rights,” he articulates how the Founding Fathers considered states to be different countries, or a confederation of sovereign states. In their view, the federal government served as a compact of free and independent states. The biggest lie is the notion that states were never sovereign according to the Constitution. It was Alexander Hamilton, chief brains behind the Federalist Party, who put forth the idea that a president enjoyed veto power against all state legislation, and that individuals, rather than states, had signed the Declaration of Independence. Sure, the Declaration begins with “we the people,” but the fuller sentence is “we the people of the states …” In fact, the King of England didn’t sign a treaty with the United States; he signed it with the states. The purpose of such a lie, though, is to realize Hamilton’s dream of a powerful centralized government.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.06.07 - 3:34 am | #

David Irving - Morell The Secret Diaries Of Hitlers Doctor
http://www.scribd.com/word/downl...2? extension=pdf
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 2:01 am | #

ABC News once again tries to “hide” Ron Paul popularity
http://scottdangel.com/blog/?p=10
Just like after the May RNC debate, ABC is at it again.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 1:44 am | #

Exclusive: Proof that New 911 Film "September Clues" is a Fraud!"
http://www.realinsidenews.com/ 91...article010.html
Mike Swenson | Real Inside News
August 5, 2007
A 911 Truth film has recently been released that tries again to prove that "TV Fakery" was used in the orchestration of the attacks of September 11th, 2001. The film, entitled "September Clues", was released by an organization called "Social Service".
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 1:44 am | #

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS...ance/ index.html
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 1:34 am | #

Disabling a sensory organ prompts female mice to act like male mice
http://www.physorg.com/ news10555...s105550190.html
By short-circuiting the sensory organ that detects the chemical cues mice use to attract mates, a team of Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) researchers has prompted female mice to behave like male mice in the throes of courtship.
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Nothing is off the table, not even new gaybomb surgery.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:05 am | #

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Read this short story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ The...rewfly_Solution
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:42 am | #

A sequel to "National Treasure" is coming out and will be more damage control for the Masons I am sure. They must be depicted as our saviours, since man cannot govern themselves without the rightful direction of the elitist social engineers and their secrets.
Don't Tread On Me | 08.06.07 - 12:18 am | #

All those who think that the intelligence agencies of the various governments of the world are networked at the very top say "Aye"!

This would do a lot to explain the Hegelian script we are watching unfold based on many years of secret societies doing their bidding around the world.....
Don't Tread On Me | 08.06.07 - 12:08 am | #

Ron Paul Supporters Denounce Iowa Diebold Use
http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp? nid=46721
Everything we are all doing is going to be brought to NAUGHT if the Diebold computers are used to STEAL the Straw Poll Election. We're asking all Ron Paul people who vote in the Ames Straw Poll to cast a second "ballot" in our exit poll. IF WE COME UP with 5000 Ron Paul exit poll ballots - the Iowa GOP better not say he only got 2000 votes!
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:01 am | #

Federal Agents Searching People At Indianapolis Bus Stops
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/20...8/3/03736/ 76330
Air Marshals Patting Civilians Down, Looking In Bags, And Performing "behavior" Tests For The Stated Purpose Of Finding Weapons And People Who Are A Threat To Public Safety
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:01 am | #

A relatively small clique with power to create money holds mankind hostage. Unfortunately its agenda is to destroy and enslave humanity-using war and education/media as its principal instruments.

Therefore, when it comes to war, we can tune out the rhetoric. All wars are against humanity. They are inherent in the organization of society and in the treason of its leadership. Certainly the next one will be aimed at the United States, in much the same way as Germany. The US already has entered the web like a "great buzzing fly."
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 11:53 pm | #

I was just asking about these folks:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/imag.../ 030807pers.jpg
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:50 pm | #

I am not a murderer. I am not a lunatic. Sane, GAK, I wipe my butt with punks like you.
Dick Cheney | 08.05.07 - 11:14 pm | #
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All lies, nothing new.
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 11:31 pm | #

The Top Secret Document At The Heart Of The Domestic Spying Controversy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...omestic-spying/
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:17 pm | #

I am not a murderer. I am not a lunatic. Sane, GAK, I wipe my butt with punks like you.
Dick Cheney | 08.05.07 - 11:14 pm | #

10 STEPS TO FASCISM

Because Americans like me were born in freedom, we have a hard time even considering that it is possible for us to become as unfree - domestically - as many other nations. Because we no longer learn much about our rights or our system of government - the task of being aware of the constitution has been outsourced from citizens' ownership to being the domain of professionals such as lawyers and professors - we scarcely recognise the checks and balances that the founders put in place, even as they are being systematically dismantled. Because we don't learn much about European history, the setting up of a department of "homeland" security - remember who else was keen on the word "homeland" - didn't raise the alarm bells it might have. It is my argument that, beneath our very noses, George Bush and his administration are using time-tested tactics to close down an open society. It is time for us to be willing to think the unthinkable - as the author and political journalist Joe Conason, has put it, that it can happen here. And that we are further along than we realise. Conason eloquently warned of the danger of American authoritarianism. I am arguing that we need also to look at the lessons of European and other kinds of fascism to understand the potential seriousness of the events we see unfolding in the US.

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
After we were hit on September 11 2001, we were in a state of national shock. Less than six weeks later, on October 26 2001, the USA Patriot Act was passed by a Congress that had little chance to debate it; many said that they scarcely had time to read it. We were told we were now on a "war footing"; we were in a "global war" against a "global caliphate" intending to "wipe out civilisation". There have been other times of crisis in which the US accepted limits on civil liberties, such as during the civil war, when Lincoln declared martial law, and the second world war, when thousands of Japanese-American citizens were interned. But this situation, as Bruce Fein of the American Freedom Agenda notes, is unprecedented: all our other wars had an endpoint, so the pendulum was able to swing back toward freedom; this war is defined as open-ended in time and without national boundaries in space - the globe itself is the battlefield. "This time," Fein says, "there will be no defined end." Creating a terrifying threat - hydra-like, secretive, evil - is an old trick. It can, like Hitler's invocation of a communist threat to the nation's security, be based on actual events (one Wisconsin academic has faced calls for his dismissal because he noted, among other things, that the alleged communist arson, the Reichstag fire of February 1933, was swiftly followed in Nazi Germany by passage of the Enabling Act, which replaced constitutional law with an open-ended state of emergency). Or the terrifying threat can be based, like the National Socialist evocation of the "global conspiracy of world Jewry", on myth. It is not that global Islamist terrorism is not a severe danger; of course it is. I am arguing rather that the language used to convey the nature of the threat is different in a country such as Spain - which has also suffered violent terrorist attacks - than it is in America. Spanish citizens know that they face a grave security threat; what we as American citizens believe is that we are potentially threatened with the end of civilisation as we know it. Of course, this makes us more willing to accept restrictions on our freedoms.

2. Create a gulag
Once you have got everyone scared, the next step is to create a prison system outside the rule of law (as Bush put it, he wanted the American detention centre at Guantánamo Bay to be situated in legal "outer space") - where torture takes place. By the way, the establishment of military tribunals that deny prisoners due process tends to come early on in a fascist shift. Mussolini and Stalin set up such tribunals. On April 24 1934, the Nazis, too, set up the People's Court, which also bypassed the judicial system: prisoners were held indefinitely, often in isolation, and tortured, without being charged with offences, and were subjected to show trials. Eventually, the Special Courts became a parallel system that put pressure on the regular courts to abandon the rule of law in favour of Nazi ideology when making decisions.

3. Develop a thug caste
When leaders who seek what I call a "fascist shift" want to close down an open society, they send paramilitary groups of scary young men out to terrorise citizens. The Blackshirts roamed the Italian countryside beating up communists; the Brownshirts staged violent rallies throughout Germany. This paramilitary force is especially important in a democracy: you need citizens to fear thug violence and so you need thugs who are free from prosecution. Thugs in America? Groups of angry young Republican men, dressed in identical shirts and trousers, menaced poll workers counting the votes in Florida in 2000. If you are reading history, you can imagine that there can be a need for "public order" on the next election day. Say there are protests, or a threat, on the day of an election; history would not rule out the presence of a private security firm at a polling station "to restore public order".

4. Set up an internal surveillance system
In Mussolini's Italy, in Nazi Germany, in communist East Germany, in communist China - in every closed society - secret police spy on ordinary people and encourage neighbours to spy on neighbours. The Stasi needed to keep only a minority of East Germans under surveillance to convince a majority that they themselves were being watched.

5. Harass citizens' groups
The fifth thing you do is related to step four - you infiltrate and harass citizens' groups. It can be trivial: a church in Pasadena, whose minister preached that Jesus was in favour of peace, found itself being investigated by the Internal Revenue Service, while churches that got Republicans out to vote, which is equally illegal under US tax law, have been left alone.

6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
This scares people. It is a kind of cat-and-mouse game. Nicholas D Kristof and Sheryl WuDunn, the investigative reporters who wrote China Wakes: the Struggle for the Soul of a Rising Power, describe pro-democracy activists in China, such as Wei Jingsheng, being arrested and released many times. In a closing or closed society there is a "list" of dissidents and opposition leaders: you are targeted in this way once you are on the list, and it is hard to get off the list.

7. Target key individuals
Threaten civil servants, artists and academics with job loss if they don't toe the line. Mussolini went after the rectors of state universities who did not conform to the fascist line; so did Joseph Goebbels, who purged academics who were not pro-Nazi; so did Chile's Augusto Pinochet; so does the Chinese communist Politburo in punishing pro-democracy students and professors.

8. Control the press
Italy in the 1920s, Germany in the 30s, East Germany in the 50s, Czechoslovakia in the 60s, the Latin American dictatorships in the 70s, China in the 80s and 90s - all dictatorships and would-be dictators target newspapers and journalists. They threaten and harass them in more open societies that they are seeking to close, and they arrest them and worse in societies that have been closed already.

9. Dissent equals treason
Cast dissent as "treason" and criticism as "espionage'. Every closing society does this, just as it elaborates laws that increasingly criminalise certain kinds of speech and expand the definition of "spy" and "traitor". When Bill Keller, the publisher of the New York Times, ran the Lichtblau/Risen stories, Bush called the Times' leaking of classified information "disgraceful", while Republicans in Congress called for Keller to be charged with treason, and rightwing commentators and news outlets kept up the "treason" drumbeat. Some commentators, as Conason noted, reminded readers smugly that one penalty for violating the Espionage Act is execution.

10. Suspend the rule of law
The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 gave the president new powers over the national guard. This means that in a national emergency - which the president now has enhanced powers to declare - he can send Michigan's militia to enforce a state of emergency that he has declared in Oregon, over the objections of the state's governor and its citizens.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:07 pm | #

>>>FORCED RAPTURE
It seems more and more obvious that there is an agenda to promote an End Days scenario and using the Middle East as a springboard. This cancer on the world citizens' rights has many symptons: warmongering with no clear agenda, enemy, goal and stratergy. Continually pushing each others' religion as having a global agenda for enslavement. It is so ironic that an overwhelming number of people that say they do not believe in "outlandish conspiracy theories" do believe that if we leave Iraq, all muslims will somehow band togather in a billion man force dead set on dominating the world. So when they talk about calafates and islamic fundamentalism being the greatest threat to our freedoms, the cancer shows itself. Please take a look at a short documentary showing what happens when we allow elites to create forced rapture scenarios as a pretext to hundreds of years of control, murder, and enslavement:

The Catholic Inquisition And The Papal Agenda
Torture and murder that took place under Papal authority during the 605 years of the Inquisition. Besides the millions of muslims and jews that were displaced, murdered and tortured, over 50 million Christians who believed in Jesus Christ above Papal Authority Perished:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...538940742386630

>>>Neocon Agenda for WWIII Includes War Between Jews/Christians/Muslims In Order To Summon The Second Coming Of Jesus

Huge part of the Neo-Con/Zionist/Nazi agenda is a huge war in the middle east based of ethnic clensing to summon JC. This agenda and the Machiavellian methods used to bring it out are found in over 100 articles, here is a sample:
Delay: US And Israel Must Enjoy Second Coming
http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/200...-second-coming/ - 226k - Cached - Similar pages
neocon.htmlWar with Iran is a precondition for the second coming of Christ
http://www.derekmaitland.com/neocon.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisAs Ashcroft helps lead the way in the Neo-Con agenda, Just prior to Christ’s second coming, the Church is conveniently removed by the secret “rapture ...
http://www.catholicintl.com/nonc...- protestant.htm - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisThis is the same Neo-con outfit that funds Crisis for the Second Coming of Christ
http://www.catholicintl.com/cath...s/ politics2.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
Trying to Force the Rapture-The neocon agenda must be stopped cold, dead in its tracks before the world
http://www.rense.com/general67/rap.htm - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
An Arab Woman Blues - Reflections in a sealed bottle. Christ's second coming will happen but albeit in Iraq they are only a part of the Neocon Empire movement
http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.c...ond- coming.html - 441k - Cached - Similar pages
Israel as an Extension of American Empire — A Jewish Magazine-While Christians enjoy the Second Coming and the salvation, the entire Land of Israel is an expendable pawn in the very center of the neo-con agenda.
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/blogs/ jeff-halper/blogentry.2006-06-19.7814635824 - 50k - Cached - Similar pages
Public Christian » PNAC: This Neocon Agenda is Un-American and Un-Christian” The people of America and Britain are products of an anti-Christ agenda
http://www.publicchristian.com/?p=205 - 63k - Cached - Similar pages
Be A Good Party Member - See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil. Biblical righteousness instead of the Republican NeoCon Zionist agenda.
http://www.covenantnews.com/ cron...krite050802.htm - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Neo-Conned: The Neo-Conservative Connection | How Neocon Shiite Strategy Led to Sectarian War, by Gareth Porter
http://www.holology.com/neocon.html - 270k - Cached - Similar pages
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For us to be protect from a "FORCED RAPTURE," we should find out the stand from each politician. I suppose we can figure out Mitt Romney's side of this issue based on this candid video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- G9hydflwEQ
Movie capture from 16:30 to 17:30 - This video will probably be edited soon.

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:06 pm | #

Iconic GOP Senator, Alaska Politics Under Siege
http:// seattletimes.nwsource.com...salaska05m.html
An extraordinary political drama is unfolding in Alaska as the FBI and federal grand juries investigate Ted Stevens, the nation's longest-sitting GOP senator, and his son, a former state Senate president whose office was twice searched by federal agents last year. Already four state lawmakers have been charged, including one found guilty of bribery
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:03 pm | #

Petition to Demand Investigation of UN Bribery Scandal
http://1389blog.com/2007/08/01/p...ribery-scandal/
UN Special Envoy for Kosovo has been accused of accepting enormous bribes from the Albanian crime syndicate in return for recommending independence for Kosovo. There's been enough stonewalling. Let's get to the bottom of this!
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:03 pm | #

Die Hard 4: The News is Completely Manipulated
http://www.jonesreport.com/ artic...7_die_hard.html
Die Hard 4, the fourth in the series of Bruce Willis action films, features a short bit about the nature of mass media. One character rants to Willis' character about his problem with the news-- namely that it is completely manipulated to drive fear-based consumption.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:02 pm | #

Ron Paul regains lead over Hillary in eBay Race
http://genuineseller.com/2007/08...y-in-ebay-race/
Ron Paul is back on top this week in the eBay Presidential race. Hillary slips to number two overall, and Rudy and Barack tighten things up.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:59 pm | #

ABC News poll shows Ron Paul overwhelmingly won the Iowa debate
http://positivereform.org/ ABC+Ne...the+Iowa+debate
As of 10:24pm eastern time Who do you think won the Republican debate? Ron Paul 21,372 Mitt Romney 3,220 Rudy Giuliani 2,626 Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race. 2,402 Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic. 2,203 Mike Huckabee 1,889 Sam Brownback 969 Tom Tancredo 559 John McCain 547
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:58 pm | #

Police Assault Former Raw Story Journalist
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Mi..._then_0319.html
A freelance photographer and journalist who has written in the past for The Raw Story, was assaulted, then arrested on 'trumped up' charges by Miami police while trying to take photographs on public property.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:58 pm | #

Video: Jackie Mason goes nuclear on the Democrats over Iraq
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/...rats-over-iraq/
What’s odder, the fact that Jackie Mason is doing YouTube commentaries — this is number 40, apparently — or the fact that no one but no one seems to be watching them? This is red meat served tartare and in two weeks it’s only mustered 1,600 hits. We do more than that for a random Fox clip in 24 hours.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:57 pm | #

Sam Brownback Spammers take on Ron Paul at the Drudge Report Iowa Poll
http://thespinfactor.com/thetrut...st-debate-poll/
First the media spams us with Giuliani. Then ABC News resets their poll while Ron Paul is winning. And now Sam Brownback has a team of spammers spamming the Drudge Report Iowa post-debate poll. The only thing that can stop them is another timely reset.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:57 pm | #

Iowa Republican Debate:Ron Paul Speaks Truth To Kooks
http://blog.myspace.com/ index.cf...logID=295990350
You could see it shook Ron Paul that he was not allowed to speak as much as we would have liked him too in the (Romney and Giuliani) debate. Just got a great description of the debate by Paul Davis from Austin Meetup.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:56 pm | #

Greens: Democrats, retreating on impeachment and withdrawal of US troops
http://www.afterdowningstreet.or...g/?q=node/ 25387
Green Party leaders reaffirmed the party s support for impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney and demand for immediate withdrawal of US forces from Iraq, and sharply criticized Democratic Party leaders for retreating on impeachment and troop withdrawal.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:54 pm | #

America Has Been The World's Bully For 62 Years
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/9130
This country has been heading downhill for a long time and we only have ourselves to blame. When the attacks on the USS Cole happened, we were outraged. Blackhawk Down was a movie that hurt American Pride. When the attacks on the World Trade Center happened, nobody asked the right questions, we were all too mesmerized by the constant repetition
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:52 pm | #

Drug Reimportation = Back Door Price Controls
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/...how/ 121758.html
The House of Representatives has just passed the National Subsidies Act of 2007. OK that s not what it is actually called--that would be far too honest a title. In any case, besides handing out farm subsidies, the act would also allow the reimportation of pharmaceuticals from abroad.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:52 pm | #

G.O.P. Candidates See Signs of Progress in Iraq
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/0...gin& oref=slogin
The leading Republican presidential candidates said today that the military escalation in Iraq appeared to be restoring stability in that country and they berated their Democratic counterparts for advocating an end to American involvement there. Only Time Ron Paul is Mentioned:
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On Iraq, only one candidate — Representative Ron Paul of Texas — advocated a withdrawal. “We’re losing this one,” he said. “We shouldn’t be there. We ought to just come home.”
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:51 pm | #

Mayor Bloomberg Confronted as Filming Restrictions Set for Enforcement
http://www.jonesreport.com/ artic...confronted.html
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was confronted outside of his Manhattan residence yesterday by reporters affiliated with WeAreChange.org and Infowars.com, who asked if his new film policy is meant to be an attack on the First Amendment, which is demonstrably the case. Bloomberg refused to comment on two occasions about the free speech assault.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:29 pm | #

Sucjh crap!!
WTF are you new yorkers going to do about this?
Wussies!
Corn-hol-ios!
Tee-pee for my pee-pees!!
you and D.C.both candie-asses!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 10:40 pm | #

OK, so now what are you gonna do about what they've done??
Henry Bowman | 07.22.07 - 5:28 am | #

Dude,
I looked up your nic on google, fictional charactor it said!!
hahahahahaha lol
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 10:34 pm | #

PROOF Ron Paul will be President
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V...h? v=VGFw6pRFJRg
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:28 pm | #

110TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION

H.R. ________

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Mr. __________ introduced the following bill;
which was referred to the Committee on Rules

A BILL
To require before final passage of any Bill the printing and full verbatim reading of the text of such Bill, and each and every amendment attached thereto, to each house of Congress called to order with a quorum physically assembled throughout, the entry of such a printing and reading in the journal of each house of Congress, and the verbatim publication of every such Bill, and each and every amendment thereto, on the official Internet web site of the Senate and the House of Representatives at least seven days before floor consideration and final passage of any Bill, and each and every amendment thereto by each house of Congress; and to provide for enforcement of the printing, reading, entry, publication, recording and affidavit requirements herein.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States
Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE

This Act may be cited as the “Read the Bills Act.”

SECTION 2. FINDINGS

(a) The United States Constitution vests all legislative powers granted therein to the United States Congress, members of both the Senate and House of which are elected by the people to whom each member is accountable to represent the people of the State and of the House District in the exercise of each member's legislative powers.

(b) To the end that Congress be politically and legally accountable to the people, Article I, Section 4 of the United States Constitution requires each House of Congress to keep a journal of its proceedings and from time to time publish the same.

(c) To the end that no legislation be passed without effective representation of the people's interest by the elected members of the Congress, Article I, Section 7 of the United States Constitution states that only those Bills “which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate,” and not vetoed by the President, “shall become” Laws.

(d) According to Section I of Thomas Jefferson's 1812 Manual of Parliamentary Practice for the Use of the Senate of the United States (“Jefferson's Manual”), “nothing tended more to throw power into the hands of administration and those who acted with the majority ... than a neglect of, or departure from, the rules of proceeding [which] operated as a check and control of the actions of the majority [and] a shelter and protection to the minority.”

(e) According to Sections XXII and XL of Jefferson's Manual, it was the rule of the Senate that every bill receive three readings, two full readings by the Clerk of the Senate, and a third reading of the title of the bill only in that “every member of the Senate had a printed copy [of said bill] in his hand.”

(f) According to Sections XXIV, XXV, and XL of Jefferson's Manual, it was the rule of the House of Representatives, following the parliamentary procedure of the English House of Commons, that every bill received two full readings by the Clerk of the House, and a reading of the whole contents of the bill verbatim by the Speaker of the House before the House voted on each bill.

(g) Under current Senate rules, the Senate has departed from its original practice of a full first and second reading of each bill, and of ensuring that each Senator has a printed or other verbatim copy of each bill before passage thereof, having by Rule XIV limited each reading of a bill to the reading of the bill's title only, unless the Senate in any case shall otherwise order.

(h) Under current House rules, the House of Representatives has by Rule XVI ( and Rule XVIII (5) embraced its original practice of full first and second readings of each bill, but has regularly departed from this practice by unanimous consent of the House, and has dispensed altogether its original practice of a verbatim third reading of each bill before passage, limiting such third reading to the reading of the title only, including the reading of the title only even when members of the House have no printed or other verbatim copy of a bill before passage.

(i) Although Section 106, Title 1, United States Code, requires a bill to be made available in written form to each member of Congress before final passage Congress has by statute conferred upon itself the power, during the last six days of a session of Congress, by concurrent resolution, to vote for passage of a bill that is not in form at the time of final passage.

(j) As a direct consequence of the Senate and the House of Representatives departure from the salutary practice of full, verbatim readings of each bill before final passage, and further, as a direct consequence of Congress, by concurrent resolution, having permitted certain appropriation and budget bills to be enacted into law without such bills being printed and presented to Congress in written form prior to final passage, Congress has: (a) imposed upon the American people excessively long bills, largely written by an unelected bureaucracy, resulting in generally incomprehensible, cumbersome, oppressive and burdensome laws, containing hidden provisions for special interests; (b) deprived the American people and their elected Senators and Representatives of a full and fair opportunity to examine the text of said bills, and all amendments thereto, prior to passage; (c) undermined the confidence of the American people by its failure to give adequate notice to the people before a vote is taken on said bills and their amendments in the bills; and (d) has called into question the integrity and reliability of the legislative processes in both houses of Congress by its failure to ensure that each member of the Senate and each member of the House has, prior to passage, either listened attentively to the reading of the full text of each bill, and its amendments, or has personally read the text thereof.

SECTION 3. READ THE BILLS BEFORE PASSAGE

(a) Chapter 2 of Title 1, United States Code, shall be amended by inserting at the end of the first sentence of Section 106, the following: “provided however, that no bill — including, but not limited to, any bill produced by conference between the two houses of Congress and any bill or resolution extending, modifying, or otherwise affecting the expiration date of a bill previously passed and enacted into law by Congress — shall pass either house of Congress: (a) without the full text of said bill, and the full text of each and every amendment thereto and — if the bill or resolution extends, modifies, or in any way affects the expiration date of a bill previously passed and enacted into law — without the full text of such bill or resolution and the full text of the bill previously passed and enacted into law having first been individually read verbatim by the Clerk of each house to the body of each house called to order and physically assembled with a quorum present throughout the time of the full textual reading of said bill, and of the full text of any bill previously passed and enacted into law, if any, that is the subject of a bill or resolution extending, modifying or in any way affecting the expiration date of such previously passed bill enacted into law; and (b) without the full text of said bill, and the full text of each and every amendment thereto, and the full text of the previously passed bill and enacted into law, if any, having been published verbatim on the official Internet web site of each house at least seven days prior to a final vote thereon in each house, together with an official notice of the date and time on which the vote on the final version of said bill and its amendments will take place.”

(b) Chapter 2, Title 1, United States Code, shall be further amended by striking the last sentence of Section 106, and substituting therefor: “With respect to each bill and each and every amendment thereto, and each bill previously passed and enacted into law, the expiration date having been extended, modified or in any way changed by a bill or resolution, each house of Congress shall cause to be recorded in its journal of proceedings: (a) that the reading, printing, and publishing requirements of this section have been met; and (b) the names of those members of the Senate and of the House present during the reading of each bill and each and every amendment thereto. Each member of the Senate and each member of the House shall execute a sworn affidavit, such affidavit being executed under penalty of perjury as provided in Section 1621, Title 18, United States Code, that the member either was present throughout the entire reading of each bill, each and every amendment thereto, and listened attentively to such reading, or, prior to any vote on passage of the bill, and each and every amendment thereto, personally read attentively each bill, and each and every amendment thereto, in their entirety. Neither house of Congress, nor Congress jointly — by concurrent resolution, or by unanimous consent, or by any other order, resolution, vote, or other means — may dispense with, or otherwise waive or modify, the printing, reading, entry, publishing, recording, or affidavit requirements set forth herein.”

(c) Chapter 2, Title 1, United States Code, shall be further amended by renumbering Sections 106a and 106b to 106b and 106c respectively and adding a new Section 106a as follows: “Enforcement Clause. No bill shall become law, nor enforced or applied as law, without Congress having complied fully with the printing, reading, entry, publishing, recording, and affidavit requirements of Section 106, Title 2, United States Code and any person against whom such a bill is enforced or applied may invoke such noncompliance as a complete defense to any action, criminal or civil, brought against him. Any p
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 10:27 pm | #

More Newspapers Across The Country Call For End To Occupation Of Iraq
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...pation-of-iraq/
A growing number of newspapers across the country are calling for the Bush Administration to begin withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq. Among them are newspapers from red states, including several (such as the Roanoke Times in Virginia and The Olympian in Washington state) that circulate in areas with large concentrations of military families.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:27 pm | #

Feds looking for warrant-less wiretap leaker... instead of Anthrax perps
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
The raid appears to be the first significant development in the probe since The New York Times reported in December 2005 that Bush had authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on the international phone calls and e-mails of U.S. residents without court warrants.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:26 pm | #

Inside the CIA’s secret interrogation program
http://www.newyorker.com/reporti...? printable=true
The Bush Administration has gone to great lengths to keep secret the treatment of the hundred or so “high-value detainees” whom the C.I.A. has confined, at one point or another, since September 11th. By design, there has been virtually no access for outsiders to the C.I.A.’s prisoners.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:26 pm | #

Giuliani Attacks Senior Columnist, Liberals, and Taxes at GOP Debate
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.c...d-gets-it-back/
If Mr. Giuliani had a leitmotif during this debate, it was appealing to his conservative audience by slapping some favorite conservative targets, including The New York Times and Michael Moore.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:25 pm | #

Jane Hamsher On CNN Talking About Mitt's Fit
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...bout-mitts-fit/
Our friend, Jane Hamsher from Firedoglake joined CNN ’s Rick Sanchez and spokesman for the National Review, Jim Geraghty, to talk about GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney and his heated off air tussle (it starts about 10 minutes into the YouTube clip) last week during a break with a talk show host in Iowa.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:24 pm | #

Ron Paul (200 Keeps Building Support Despite Naysayers [vid incl]
http://www.thirdeyeconcept.org/f...hp? topic=5093.0
This Texan just isn't going away anytime soon. Ron Paul's growing base of support and money for the coffers has GOP stalwarts scratching their heads. East Texas congressman Paul has galvanized a cross-section of all parties and affiliations that are hungry for a politician who is less of a political animal, and more of a straight shooter...
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:24 pm | #

Washington Post & ABC Republican Poll Ignores Ron Paul Supporters
http://thefreedomfellowship.blog...fic- survey.html
Pretty amazing what the "real world" looks like when they've weeded out all those "kooks and crazies" who support Ron Paul. We'll feel so reassured that ABC has taken the time to figure out all this for We The People.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:17 pm | #

Now that the debate's over, it's time to consider the winners and losers.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/D...opup? id=3436820
Who do you think won the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

21,059

Mitt Romney
3,186

Rudy Giuliani
2,616

Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
2,391

Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
2,183

Mike Huckabee
1,861

Sam Brownback
965

Tom Tancredo
552

John McCain
541

Tommy Thompson
365

Duncan Hunter
345
Total Vote: 36,064
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:15 pm | #

Ignorant Republican Once Again Attacks Ron Paul at Presidential Debate
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2.../ ap3988322.html
"Just come home," began Texas Rep. Ron Paul, the lone dissenter on a debate stage when it came to Iraq. The slightly confused and less than competent Mitt Romney then interrupted, "Has he forgotten about 9/11?"
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:14 pm | #

Did you Congressman/Congress Woman Vote for the Wiretapping bill??
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/...6& sort=district
The Vote Record of the House for the wiretap-ing Bill... Senate Record isn't online yet
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:12 pm | #

Quick overview of ABC Republican Debate in Iowa
http://www.thecomingstorm.net/ar.../ abc_debate.php
The ABC news network in they're coverage of the republican debates in Iowa, skipped Ron Paul on one of his key issues, taxes. however, they did let him answer some other, time-filler questions, such as what was your biggest, defining mistake in you life?, and what's the role of the vice president? ABC, among other news networks, also likes to...
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:09 pm | #

Ron Paul on Iraq @ Iowa Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h? v=W9N6BW7SjIw
Another debate, another series of great answers from RP. Notice YouTube has disabled comments and votes on this, I guess afraid it will break their servers??
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:09 pm | #

Ron Paul Supporters Are Becoming Active
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/...ing- active.html
Great video of Ron Paul supporters being active at farmer's market in Indiana.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:08 pm | #

YouTube - Ron Paul Says "Just Come Home" at ABC Debate with George Stephano
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h?v=XX- DIpkJRDY
"We went in there illegally... it's lasting too long... the wars were never really ended.. we shouldn't be there.. we should just come home." - Ron Paul
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:07 pm | #

Just Come Home - Ron Paul gives best interview, yet, on FOX News
http://thespinfactor.com/thetrut...et-on-fox-news/
FOX News shows an amazing clip of Ron Paul at the Iowa debate on Aug 5. Then a hot anchor interviews Ron Paul in what may be one of the most civilized and fair interviews Ron Paul has had, yet.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:07 pm | #

Clinton Promotes Prison Industrial Complex
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...7080400767.html
Clinton chastised Bush for a 2008 budget that she said would further cut the Community Oriented Police Services program and other law enforcement initiatives. That program was created under President Clinton to put 100,000 more officers on the street. The original program expired seven years ago, but Congress has kept funding it.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:06 pm | #

Why the Republican Party Should Embrace Ron Paul
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/...e-ron- paul.html
Ron Paul is expressing his free speech in talking about the issues. Even though he differs from the mainstream Republican party, he is still worth embracing.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:05 pm | #

Media ignores Ron Paul, "RON PAUL 2008" advertisement appears on $ bills
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ld30YAseVQ
Yet another way to spread the message?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:05 pm | #

>>>ABC EXPOSED AS CRIMINALLY MISLEADING TO FIX AMERICAN ELECTIONS

>>>>>>>>ABC Cites Fixed Washington Post Poll to Discredit Ron Paul
http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/08...redit-ron-paul/
Rat Says: This is comical, to open the debate and introduce the candidates, ABC uses a poll from the Washington Post that actually had a sample size of 100 !!! No doubt these cherry picked samples are not exactly representative of the voting population. Over 70% of those questioned have never used a computer to access their chosen candidate’s web sites. Yet ABC quotes these numbers which have Ron Paul at 2%, as if they were from a legitimate poll. This is criminally misleading, ABC is trying to decide our election.

Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project. *= less than 0.5 percent
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1. (FOR SCREENING PURPOSES) Are you registered to vote in Iowa at your present address, or not?
7/31/07
Yes - 100
No - 0
No Opinion - 0
___________________________________________
10. So far in the Republican campaign, have you (ITEM)?
a. Been called on the telephone by any of the campaigns 63 36 *
Yes - 63
No - 36
No Opinion - *
b. Attended a campaign event 23 77 *
Yes - 23
No - 77
No Opinion - *
c. Contributed money to any of the presidential candidates 10 90 *
Yes - 10
No - 90
No Opinion - *
d. Visited any of the candidates’ Web sites on the Internet 28 72 0
Yes - 28
No - 72
No Opinion - 0
e. Received e-mails from any of the campaigns 24 74 1
Yes - 24
No - 74
No Opinion - 1
____________________________________________
TNS of Horsham, Pa.
http://www.tnstelecoms.com/ [Subsidiary of TNS Website - CAUTION: Their Main Website for TNS has Phishisng Spyware, Leechware, do not go to it.]
TNS Telecoms is the world's largest telecom market information company. TNS Telecoms is part of TNS, whose international network of more than 100 offices provides market information services to national and multi-national organizations in over 80 countries. Building on our ongoing syndicated data collection, TNS Telecoms offers a variety of products for the business and residential telecom marketplace. Our clients, which include major worldwide telecom service providers, rely on us for accurate information from an unbiased perspective to help them stay ahead in this complex, fast-changing industry. We distinguish ourselves as the source for the greatest depth, breadth, and scope of telecom market intelligence on local, long distance, wireless, satellite/cable TV, Internet, and broadband issues. Our innovative solutions, combined with strategic partnerships, are helping telecom businesses answer the tough questions facing the telecommunications industry.

J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
_____________________________________________
The whole poll is comical, look at how 73% of those polled were satisfied with the Republican candidates.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:59 pm | #

shhhh, dont tell him its kickboxing
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 9:47 pm |
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Oh I would pay to see that !!
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:57 pm | #

we need to keep track of each other, lest we all disapear.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:41 pm |
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I am so glad you tried also. Lets keep trying him, this has not happened before, I am getting anxious about it . He hung a banner out his window the other day - I dont know what it said but I can imagine.
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:51 pm | #

shhhh, dont tell him its kickboxing
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 9:47 pm | #

Its really the only way to know if he is fit to be a leader.
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:43 pm | #

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I dont know about THAT, but it'd be fun as all hell
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 9:45 pm | #

politics schmolitics, if el busho is a man he'd accept my challenge to a steel cage match, hearing nothing from him so far, I can only guess he's a coward, and unfit to be a leader.
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 9:23 pm |
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Its really the only way to know if he is fit to be a leader.
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:43 pm | #

I tried his phone this morning at 9:30. No Gabe but I left a message that he is missed on the board and please stop in and say hi so we know he's okay.
If anyone knows anything , please post....
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:36 pm | #

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I tried also and got the machine...I lft a message...I hope he pokes his head in and lets us know....we need to keep track of each other, lest we all disapear.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:41 pm | #

monster, and that you admit being TOLD by these voices to do the horror-iffic acts for which you will seal your fate with hell for ever and ever and ever!~
happy sundey
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 9:18 pm | #

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They are clearly in league! There are only the haves and the have nots. It is about power not money per se.....control....kill those who youu cannot subjugate!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:37 pm | #

Yo,
Where is GAK??

Where is USAma ben Lay-den?

www.whoknows.com
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 8:45 pm
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I tried his phone this morning at 9:30. No Gabe but I left a message that he is missed on the board and please stop in and say hi so we know he's okay.
If anyone knows anything , please post....
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:36 pm | #

"EXECUTIVE DISORDER"
http://www.opednews.com/ articles...disorder_22.htm
Bush proposed a new Executive Order allowing seizure of assets without court order or trial from anyone who is even SUSPECTED might commit undefined violent acts which MIGHT interfere with the Iraq war and occupation. Kudos to Ron Paul for exposing it. Boos and rage to all other presidential candidates for not exposing it.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:30 pm | #

DEBATE on CSPAN1 9:30pm EST/6:30pm PST

During the commercial breaks, C-SPAN may run off air comments, watch here online:

http://c-span.org
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:26 pm | #

Three teens killed, one hurt in school execution
http://www.news.com.au/ dailytele...5006003,00.html
NEWARK: Three teenagers have been killed and one wounded in an horrific schoolyard execution which had no immediately apparent motive. The four - two girls and two boys - were lined up against a wall in a school parking lot in New Jersey today and shot in the head.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:21 pm | #

Should Homeland Security Forces be Used to target video game pirates?
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/...mod-chip-sting/
Immigration and Customs (ICE) officials conducted a controversial series of raids in 16 US states last week. Were they after terrorists? Al-Qaeda? Dirty bombs? Nah... video game mod chips, which are used to modify game consoles for both legit (playing games from Japan) and not-so-legit (playing copied games) reasons.
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How is this a question?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:20 pm | #

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fox Focus Group Rates Ron Paul the Winner
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/...ves/ 014451.html
August 05, 2007
Fox Focus Group Rates Ron Paul the Winner
Posted by Lew Rockwell at August 5, 2007 01:30 PM

Who won? Was it one of the eight criminal pygmies or Ron Paul? Both the ABC and Drudge polls have Ron leading, of course.

And here's some inside info: Fox News held a focus group in a diner near Drake University, where the debate was held. 25 people rated the candidates' answers on Fox laptops, and thanks to a Des Moines Meet-Up member who was able to attend as a restaurant worker, here's an inside report:

Ron's answers were rated far higher than other candidates--indeed, one was so high it froze the main computer, requiring a reboot--and when the 25 people were asked to vote on the winner after the debate by raising their hands, Ron also won.

Whether the Sean Hannity producer who ran the focus group will be reporting on this, I think we know.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:20 pm | #

Police find explosive making devices in car
http://www.abcnews4.com/news/sto...807/ 444994.html
Goose Creek - Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. There are conflicting reports as to the quantity of explosive making materials in that vehicle.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:10 pm | #

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Speaking of explosives:

Did anyone hear anymore regarding the device LAPD exploded on the Westside of LA? Same day as an explosion at UCLA and the Mojave airport. Same day as a terror aler shut down Long Beach airport.
I have friends who were evacuated due to this...never hit any MSM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h? v=rJZ__I647K8
http://www.westlaonline.com/2007...detonates- .html
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:20 pm | #

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Shout loudly if at all! We cannot be secretive about resisting or elese we will die by suicide; gunshot wound to the head from 10 or so yards away, like Vince Foster, Pat TIlliman, THe woman who sued W....etc. a long list of sucides and accidental deaths surround the polictical-corporate farce that is our Tyranical gov.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:38 pm | #

Ron,
My brother,
The clitonistas, with Rush Limbaughs verbal assistance , gave us NAFTA, Rush sold it to the neocons(i know I was there) while mrs. C sold it to the "village" peeple.

So,
It appears, that you can count on only a handful of congress critters to help stir is toward the republic again

I kinda doub itt,( due to historical lack of an empire ever, ever returning to a benivolant republic from a fascist socialism.)

That doesn't mean it cant be done, it just never has, and why should God have mercy on us anyway! We have constantly supported every kind of murder conceived in the minds of warriors
since the first white men walked onto the eastern shores!

We just take turns outlawing certian types of murder.At this time, it is legal to murder your offspring,They call it "abortion"
at this time it is legal to murder fellow students in a rampage,you get sympathy from the media, specially if you kill your sorry,brain-washed self!
Then they will spend MONTHS speculating on why your monsterous ass did what you did, the whole time intentionally ignoring the fact that you have always admitted to being demon possessed and thinking like a monster, and that you admit being TOLD by these voices to do the horror-iffic acts for which you will seal your fate with hell for ever and ever and ever!~
happy sundey
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 9:18 pm | #

Mitt Romney Second Coming 16:30 - 17:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- G9hydflwEQ
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:18 pm | #

>>>>>>>>Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/ sto...2063979,00.html
From Hitler to Pinochet and beyond, history shows there are certain steps that any would-be dictator must take to destroy constitutional freedoms.

Because Americans like me were born in freedom, we have a hard time even considering that it is possible for us to become as unfree - domestically - as many other nations. Because we no longer learn much about our rights or our system of government - the task of being aware of the constitution has been outsourced from citizens' ownership to being the domain of professionals such as lawyers and professors - we scarcely recognise the checks and balances that the founders put in place, even as they are being systematically dismantled. Because we don't learn much about European history, the setting up of a department of "homeland" security - remember who else was keen on the word "homeland" - didn't raise the alarm bells it might have. It is my argument that, beneath our very noses, George Bush and his administration are using time-tested tactics to close down an open society. It is time for us to be willing to think the unthinkable - as the author and political journalist Joe Conason, has put it, that it can happen here. And that we are further along than we realise. Conason eloquently warned of the danger of American authoritarianism. I am arguing that we need also to look at the lessons of European and other kinds of fascism to understand the potential seriousness of the events we see unfolding in the US.

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
After we were hit on September 11 2001, we were in a state of national shock. Less than six weeks later, on October 26 2001, the USA Patriot Act was passed by a Congress that had little chance to debate it; many said that they scarcely had time to read it. We were told we were now on a "war footing"; we were in a "global war" against a "global caliphate" intending to "wipe out civilisation". There have been other times of crisis in which the US accepted limits on civil liberties, such as during the civil war, when Lincoln declared martial law, and the second world war, when thousands of Japanese-American citizens were interned. But this situation, as Bruce Fein of the American Freedom Agenda notes, is unprecedented: all our other wars had an endpoint, so the pendulum was able to swing back toward freedom; this war is defined as open-ended in time and without national boundaries in space - the globe itself is the battlefield. "This time," Fein says, "there will be no defined end." Creating a terrifying threat - hydra-like, secretive, evil - is an old trick. It can, like Hitler's invocation of a communist threat to the nation's security, be based on actual events (one Wisconsin academic has faced calls for his dismissal because he noted, among other things, that the alleged communist arson, the Reichstag fire of February 1933, was swiftly followed in Nazi Germany by passage of the Enabling Act, which replaced constitutional law with an open-ended state of emergency). Or the terrifying threat can be based, like the National Socialist evocation of the "global conspiracy of world Jewry", on myth. It is not that global Islamist terrorism is not a severe danger; of course it is. I am arguing rather that the language used to convey the nature of the threat is different in a country such as Spain - which has also suffered violent terrorist attacks - than it is in America. Spanish citizens know that they face a grave security threat; what we as American citizens believe is that we are potentially threatened with the end of civilisation as we know it. Of course, this makes us more willing to accept restrictions on our freedoms.

2. Create a gulag
Once you have got everyone scared, the next step is to create a prison system outside the rule of law (as Bush put it, he wanted the American detention centre at Guantánamo Bay to be situated in legal "outer space") - where torture takes place. By the way, the establishment of military tribunals that deny prisoners due process tends to come early on in a fascist shift. Mussolini and Stalin set up such tribunals. On April 24 1934, the Nazis, too, set up the People's Court, which also bypassed the judicial system: prisoners were held indefinitely, often in isolation, and tortured, without being charged with offences, and were subjected to show trials. Eventually, the Special Courts became a parallel system that put pressure on the regular courts to abandon the rule of law in favour of Nazi ideology when making decisions.

3. Develop a thug caste
When leaders who seek what I call a "fascist shift" want to close down an open society, they send paramilitary groups of scary young men out to terrorise citizens. The Blackshirts roamed the Italian countryside beating up communists; the Brownshirts staged violent rallies throughout Germany. This paramilitary force is especially important in a democracy: you need citizens to fear thug violence and so you need thugs who are free from prosecution. Thugs in America? Groups of angry young Republican men, dressed in identical shirts and trousers, menaced poll workers counting the votes in Florida in 2000. If you are reading history, you can imagine that there can be a need for "public order" on the next election day. Say there are protests, or a threat, on the day of an election; history would not rule out the presence of a private security firm at a polling station "to restore public order".

4. Set up an internal surveillance system
In Mussolini's Italy, in Nazi Germany, in communist East Germany, in communist China - in every closed society - secret police spy on ordinary people and encourage neighbours to spy on neighbours. The Stasi needed to keep only a minority of East Germans under surveillance to convince a majority that they themselves were being watched.

5. Harass citizens' groups
The fifth thing you do is related to step four - you infiltrate and harass citizens' groups. It can be trivial: a church in Pasadena, whose minister preached that Jesus was in favour of peace, found itself being investigated by the Internal Revenue Service, while churches that got Republicans out to vote, which is equally illegal under US tax law, have been left alone.

6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
This scares people. It is a kind of cat-and-mouse game. Nicholas D Kristof and Sheryl WuDunn, the investigative reporters who wrote China Wakes: the Struggle for the Soul of a Rising Power, describe pro-democracy activists in China, such as Wei Jingsheng, being arrested and released many times. In a closing or closed society there is a "list" of dissidents and opposition leaders: you are targeted in this way once you are on the list, and it is hard to get off the list.

7. Target key individuals
Threaten civil servants, artists and academics with job loss if they don't toe the line. Mussolini went after the rectors of state universities who did not conform to the fascist line; so did Joseph Goebbels, who purged academics who were not pro-Nazi; so did Chile's Augusto Pinochet; so does the Chinese communist Politburo in punishing pro-democracy students and professors.

8. Control the press
Italy in the 1920s, Germany in the 30s, East Germany in the 50s, Czechoslovakia in the 60s, the Latin American dictatorships in the 70s, China in the 80s and 90s - all dictatorships and would-be dictators target newspapers and journalists. They threaten and harass them in more open societies that they are seeking to close, and they arrest them and worse in societies that have been closed already.

9. Dissent equals treason
Cast dissent as "treason" and criticism as "espionage'. Every closing society does this, just as it elaborates laws that increasingly criminalise certain kinds of speech and expand the definition of "spy" and "traitor". When Bill Keller, the publisher of the New York Times, ran the Lichtblau/Risen stories, Bush called the Times' leaking of classified information "disgraceful", while Republicans in Congress called for Keller to be charged with treason, and rightwing commentators and news outlets kept up the "treason" drumbeat. Some commentators, as Conason noted, reminded readers smugly that one penalty for violating the Espionage Act is execution.

10. Suspend the rule of law
The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 gave the president new powers over the national guard. This means that in a national emergency - which the president now has enhanced powers to declare - he can send Michigan's militia to enforce a state of emergency that he has declared in Oregon, over the objections of the state's governor and its citizens.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:16 pm | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- G9hydflwEQ

Movie capture from 16:30 to 17:30 - This video will probably be edited soon.

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:40 pm | #

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Agree wit him or not I think this video makes Mitt more real than ever before. I think he would do well to post it everywhere........I still think he is an Ass but at least he showed some passion for something he believes in.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:10 pm | #

>>>FORCED RAPTURE
It seems more and more obvious that there is an agenda to promote an End Days scenario and using the Middle East as a springboard. This cancer on the world citizens' rights has many symptons. Warmongering with no clear agenda, enemy, goal, or stratergy is a familiar one. So is continually pushing each others' religion as having a global agenda for enslavement. It is ironic that an overwhelming number of people that say they do not believe in "outlandish conspiracy theories" do believe that if we leave Iraq, all muslims will somehow band togather in a billion man force dead set on dominating the world. So when they talk about calafates and islamic fundamentalism being the greatest threat to our freedoms, the cancer shows itself. Please take a look at a short documentary showing what happens when we allow elites to create forced rapture scenarios as a pretext to hundreds of years of control, murder, and enslavement:

The Catholic Inquisition And The Papal Agenda
Torture and murder that took place under Papal authority during the 605 years of the Inquisition. Besides the millions of muslims and jews that were displaced, murdered and tortured, over 50 million Christians who believed in Jesus Christ above Papal Authority Perished:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...538940742386630

>>>Neocon Agenda for WWIII Includes War Between Jews/Christians/Muslims In Order To Summon The Second Coming Of Jesus

Huge part of the Neo-Con/Zionist/Nazi agenda is a huge war in the middle east based of ethnic clensing to summon JC. This agenda and the Machiavellian methods used to bring it out are found in over 100 articles, here is a sample:
Delay: US And Israel Must Enjoy Second Coming
http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/200...-second-coming/ - 226k - Cached - Similar pages
neocon.htmlWar with Iran is a precondition for the second coming of Christ
http://www.derekmaitland.com/neocon.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisAs Ashcroft helps lead the way in the Neo-Con agenda, Just prior to Christ’s second coming, the Church is conveniently removed by the secret “rapture ...
http://www.catholicintl.com/nonc...- protestant.htm - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisThis is the same Neo-con outfit that funds Crisis for the Second Coming of Christ
http://www.catholicintl.com/cath...s/ politics2.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
Trying to Force the Rapture-The neocon agenda must be stopped cold, dead in its tracks before the world
http://www.rense.com/general67/rap.htm - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
An Arab Woman Blues - Reflections in a sealed bottle. Christ's second coming will happen but albeit in Iraq they are only a part of the Neocon Empire movement
http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.c...ond- coming.html - 441k - Cached - Similar pages
Israel as an Extension of American Empire — A Jewish Magazine-While Christians enjoy the Second Coming and the salvation, the entire Land of Israel is an expendable pawn in the very center of the neo-con agenda.
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/blogs/ jeff-halper/blogentry.2006-06-19.7814635824 - 50k - Cached - Similar pages
Public Christian » PNAC: This Neocon Agenda is Un-American and Un-Christian” The people of America and Britain are products of an anti-Christ agenda
http://www.publicchristian.com/?p=205 - 63k - Cached - Similar pages
Be A Good Party Member - See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil. Biblical righteousness instead of the Republican NeoCon Zionist agenda.
http://www.covenantnews.com/ cron...krite050802.htm - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Neo-Conned: The Neo-Conservative Connection | How Neocon Shiite Strategy Led to Sectarian War, by Gareth Porter
http://www.holology.com/neocon.html - 270k - Cached - Similar pages
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For us to be protect from a "FORCED RAPTURE," we should find out the stand from each politician. I suppose we can figure out Mitt Romney's side of this issue based on this candid video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- G9hydflwEQ

Movie capture from 16:30 to 17:30 - This video will probably be edited soon.

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:04 pm | #

Totally groovey, peeple are you free yet?
How many times today did your pic get taken without your permission OR consent??
Try to take your dog for a walk without a licence!
Dont even THINK of fishing for a free meal, it'll cost ya $200 for a" free" trout dinner!
funny funny,land of the free and home of the brave,
Should be changed to:
land of those that FLEE
and HOME of the GRAVE!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 8:52 pm | #

Support our troops!
We Love Them!
http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?vi...Up2Q& autoplay=1
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 8:48 pm | #

Patriot Act:
SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
(a) Domestic Terrorism Defined.--Section 2331 [any of the following]
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended--
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion...
http://www.eff.org/Censorship/ Te...atriot_act.html

Think about this~
then call your rep(who prolly won't do anything to change it anyways) and tell them to repeal the entire act!!

Yo,
Where is GAK??

Where is USAma ben Lay-den?

www.whoknows.com
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 8:45 pm | #

DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTONGottlieb was called out of retirement to explain MK-ULTRA's role in ..... Former FBI official Larry Potts (of Ruby Ridge fame), who's now an IGI executive. ...
http://www.alamo-girl.com/02742.htm - 121k - Cached - Similar pages
CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:Among those employed by Lenzner and IGI is LARRY POTTS. ... Though the super-secret MK-ULTRA was ended in 1964, a streamlined version called MK-SEARCH was ...
http://www.alamo-girl.com/0315.htm - Similar pages
Downside Legacy on Secret Police [Free Republic]Strangelove -- a brilliant chemist who headed MK-ULTRA, the agency's ..... Former FBI official Larry Potts (of Ruby Ridge fame), who's now an IGI executive. ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/ foru...7fd259069d7.htm - 132k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
Many Books Warn of Bush - Another winner from the Charleston ...Among those employed by Lenzner and IGI is LARRY POTTS. ... He testified as Joseph Scheider, but revealed his true name in later hearings on MK-ULTRA……" ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/1175832/ posts - 37k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING CASE REVELATIONSFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
Larry Potts, Howard Shapiro, Terry Lenzner, and Clinton with the OKC ...... Lenzner worked for the CIA to defend MK ULTRA in lawsuits brought by the US ...
http://www.devvy.com/briley/ OKC_...Revelations.pdf - Similar pages
LP: Muslim Extremist Leader Suspected in US Attacks Tied To Former ...Lenzner worked for the CIA to defend MK ULTRA in lawsuits brought by the US Senate; ... Larry Potts to be VP of Lenzner’s private investigating firm, IGI. ...
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...i? ArtNum=182132 - 35k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING CASE REVELATIONSFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Larry Potts, Howard Shapiro, Terry Lenzner, and Clinton with the OKC bombing ..... A secret fund for MK-ULTRA was set up by the CIA to finance the drug and ...
http://www.okc903.com/Revelations.pdf - Similar pages

Clinton's Black Ops Company IGI and Microsoft hijacking of the entire OS for Illuminati:
DataShaping - Click Fraud Detection, Data Mining, Analytical JobsCharts and Statistical Analysis in Excel (2003) Published by IGI Development ... known as SPSS, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft PowerPoint and Microsoft Word. ...
http://www.datashaping.com/ resum...umes14001.shtml - 16k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] Basr_149 501..511File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
Also in a press release, Microsoft responded to the Oracle/IGI ... fraud (and buying or receiving secrets so obtained) a U.S. federal ...
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com...1467- 8594.00149 - Similar pages
[PDF] Corporate Espionage and Workplace Trust/DistrustFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
to possible deception, fraud, and embezzlement. (Cressy, 1953; Granovetter, 1985; Shapiro, 1987, ..... antitrust case against Microsoft. IGI’s detective ...
http://www.springerlink.com/ inde...89851262T31.pdf - Similar pages
Reason Magazine - Bill's And Larry's Continued Political MisadventuresIGI, as The Wall Street Journal reported, "promptly went trash-hunting" - literally ... put it well: "The government's case against Microsoft has been about ...
http://www.reason.com/news/show/...show/ 36047.html - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
James K. GlassmanIGI, as The Wall Street Journal reported, “promptly went trash-hunting” ... Clinton also pardoned a cocaine trafficker and a notorious fraud artist, ...
http:// www.jewishworldreview.com...ssman030101.asp - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
Internet Security News: [ISN] Dumpster Diving - No firewall helpsfrom the Washington offices of a company associated with Microsoft. ... someone such as IGI to see what they dig up. (Make sure you retain ...
http://www.landfield.com/isn/mai...0/Jul/ 0040.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
Forget the firewall; guard your garbage against 'Dumpster diving ...Days later, a break-in occurred at Microsoft offices in the area in what may ... to be a shell company operated by Investigative Group International (IGI), ...
http://www.infoworld.com/ article...03opswatch.html - Similar pages
SBI - Smith Brandon International, Inc.Mr Nardello, whose experience includes fraud and organised crime ... Despite having about 85 full-time investigators, IGI has yet to gain wide international ...
http://www.smithbrandon.com/news...news.aspx? id=39 - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
Biometrics InfoVoice biometric technology protects call centres from identity fraud .... New Delhi: In a major step towards improving security at IGI Airport, ...
http://www.bioxs.nl/biometrics_i...view.php/bID/ 88 - 43k - Cached - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:44 pm | #

and ANY ANY ANY business that sells out to rupert murdoch, and any politician who allows the sellout, needs to be tried for treason.
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 8:43 pm | #

Patriot Act:
SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
(a) Domestic Terrorism Defined.--Section 2331 [any of the following]
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended--
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion...
http://www.eff.org/Censorship/ Te...atriot_act.html

Think about this~
then call your rep(who prolly wont do anything to change it) and tell them to repeal the entire act!!
Totally Groovy,(A.T.H.F.) | 08.05.07 - 8:41 pm | #

FOXNEWS total Hitpiece, but again...BLOWBACK:

#1 - Free Endorsement for Alex Jones-Now 50 million more people have heard that name

#2 - Attacking him as not being a true Republican [guess if he sqashed that]

They acted like these were viewer questions, they were totally loaded.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:30 pm | #

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there go FOX lying to the public again, even sued in court and won it as their 1st amendment right to lie to the people.... meanwhile at the alex jones and ron paul camps.. neither one of em are "Republicans" according to 'neocon' definitions at all! they are constitutionalists if anything, rupert murdoch isnt even an American, but he's being allowed to buy all the news media he wants and claim American 1st amendment to win a case about lying to the American public. their FCC license oughtta be yanked, all the broadcasting facilities retaken, thanks for the money... asshole.
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 8:41 pm | #

http://sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.html
More on FEMA
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:41 pm | #

>>>Neocon Agenda for WWIII Includes War Between Jews/Christians/Muslims In Order To Summon The Second Coming Of Jesus

Huge part of the Neo-Con/Zionist/Nazi agenda is a huge war in the middle east based of ethnic clensing to summon JC. This agenda and the Machiavellian methods used to bring it out are found in over 100 articles, here is a sample:
Delay: US And Israel Must Enjoy Second Coming
http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/200...-second-coming/ - 226k - Cached - Similar pages
neocon.htmlWar with Iran is a precondition for the second coming of Christ
http://www.derekmaitland.com/neocon.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisAs Ashcroft helps lead the way in the Neo-Con agenda, Just prior to Christ’s second coming, the Church is conveniently removed by the secret “rapture ...
http://www.catholicintl.com/nonc...- protestant.htm - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisThis is the same Neo-con outfit that funds Crisis for the Second Coming of Christ
http://www.catholicintl.com/cath...s/ politics2.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
Trying to Force the Rapture-The neocon agenda must be stopped cold, dead in its tracks before the world
http://www.rense.com/general67/rap.htm - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
An Arab Woman Blues - Reflections in a sealed bottle. Christ's second coming will happen but albeit in Iraq they are only a part of the Neocon Empire movement
http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.c...ond- coming.html - 441k - Cached - Similar pages
Israel as an Extension of American Empire — A Jewish Magazine-While Christians enjoy the Second Coming and the salvation, the entire Land of Israel is an expendable pawn in the very center of the neo-con agenda.
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/b...6- 19.7814635824 - 50k - Cached - Similar pages
Public Christian » PNAC: This Neocon Agenda is Un-American and Un-Christian” The people of America and Britain are products of an anti-Christ agenda
http://www.publicchristian.com/?p=205 - 63k - Cached - Similar pages
Be A Good Party Member - See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil. Biblical righteousness instead of the Republican NeoCon Zionist agenda.
http://www.covenantnews.com/ cron...krite050802.htm - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Neo-Conned: The Neo-Conservative Connection | How Neocon Shiite Strategy Led to Sectarian War, by Gareth Porter
http://www.holology.com/neocon.html - 270k - Cached - Similar pages
_______________________________________
For us to be protect from a "FORCED RAPTURE," we should find out the stand from each politician. I suppose we can figure out Mitt Romney's side of this issue based on this candid video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- G9hydflwEQ

Movie capture from 16:30 to 17:30 - This video will probably be edited soon.

_
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:40 pm | #

Thus, it may very well be that we are already living in a police state – and that it’s all over but the shouting. But still we have to shout.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 8:31 pm | #

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Shout loudly if at all! We cannot be secretive about resisting or elese we will die by suicide; gunshot wound to the head from 10 or so yards away, like Vince Foster, Pat TIlliman, THe woman who sued W....etc. a long list of sucides and accidental deaths surround the polictical-corporate farce that is our Tyranical gov.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:38 pm | #

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

You're gov. keeping you safe!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:32 pm | #

The Instruments of Tyranny

John W. Whitehead
Lew Rockwell.com
Sunday Aug 5, 2007

Two years ago, in an article entitled “It Can’t Happen Here,” Congressman Ron Paul cautioned, “We are not yet living in a total police state, but it is fast approaching.”

A lot can happen in two years.

In fact, a lot has happened over the past two years, most of it aimed at amassing greater power for the government while undermining the rights of American citizens. And I would venture to say that Rep. Paul’s fears may have come to pass.

For example, sometime in the past two years, President Bush quietly claimed the authority to allow government agents to open the private mail of American citizens, proclaimed his right to assume control of the federal government following a “catastrophic emergency,” and assumed the power to declare martial law and use the military as a domestic police force in response to a natural disaster, disease outbreak, terrorist attack or any “other condition.” However, these incidents are just the tip of the iceberg.

Unless you’ve been asleep for the past decade, the increasing militarization of the police has become an inescapable and ominous reality. The role of law enforcement, especially local police officers, has drastically changed from when I was a child in the 1950s. The friendly local sheriff in The Andy Griffith Show has been shelved for the federal gun-toting terrorist-killer in the popular television series 24.

Some might insist that the new face of law enforcement is warranted, a sign of the times in which we live. After all, whereas we once feared nuclear attacks by the Russians, we now fear each other and the predators that lurk in our midst – serial killers, drug pushers, home-grown and imported terrorists, perverts who prey on small children, the list goes on.

Thus, in order to better deal with these and other threats, congressional legislation now allows the U.S. military, by way of the Pentagon, to train civilian police and provide them with equipment and funding. As a result, our law enforcement agents are armed to the teeth. For example, in Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America (2006), author Radley Balko points out that in “Wisconsin alone during the 1990s, local police departments were given nearly 100,000 pieces of military equipment valued at more than $18 million.” Columbia County, Wisc., which only has a population of 52,468, was given more than 5,000 military items valued at $1.75 million by the Pentagon. These included “11 M-16s, 21 bayonets, four boats, a periscope, and 41 vehicles, one of which was converted into a mobile command center for the SWAT team” – along with surveillance equipment, chemical suits and flak jackets, among other items.

Debating which came first – increased threats requiring greater fire power or heavily armed law enforcement agents in search of greater threats – might seem too much like the chicken or the egg debate, but the numbers speak for themselves. By the early 1980s, there were 3,000 annual SWAT deployments, by 1996 there were 30,000 and by 2001 there were 40,000. Incredibly, these forces conduct approximately 40,000 “no-knock” raids annually across the U.S., some of which are tracked by the Cato Institute on an interactive map on its website.

One thing is undeniable: armed police officers have become a force to be reckoned with. However, it’s not just local law enforcement that’s loaded for bear. As the federalization of law enforcement continues to grow, more types of federal agents are packing heat. As of September 2004, federal agencies employed about 106,000 full-time personnel authorized to make arrests and carry firearms.

Yet FBI agents are only a small portion of the armed federal personnel. Everyone from postal agents, the Internal Revenue Service, the National Park Service and the Environmental Protection Agency to agents of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Army Corps of Engineers are now carrying deadly weapons. In Virginia, for example, game wardens were recently renamed “conservation police officers” in an effort to clarify their role as sworn law enforcement officers who are armed and able to make arrests.

Writing for World Net Daily, Joseph Farah declared, “What we’ve witnessed is the biggest arms buildup in the history of the federal government – and it’s not taking place in the Defense Department. The kind of arms that are proliferating in Washington these days are the kind pointed at our own civilian population and carried by a growing number of federal police forces with ever-larger budgets and ever-deadlier arsenals.”

“Good grief,” remarked Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America, “that’s a standing army.” At all levels, federal, local and state, the government and the police have merged. And in the process, they have become a standing army – which is exactly what the Founders feared.

Those who drafted the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights had an enormous distrust of standing armies. They knew that despotic governments have always used standing armies to control the people and impose tyranny. As James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, wrote, “A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.” These “instruments of tyranny” are now in place.

Thus, it may very well be that we are already living in a police state – and that it’s all over but the shouting. But still we have to shout.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 8:31 pm | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=RpXh7DCptaQ
FEMA CAMPS Etc.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:31 pm | #

http://www.sianews.com/modules.p...rticle& sid=1062

FEMA
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:30 pm | #

http:// www.whatreallyhappened.co...centration.html
don't know if it is real....
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:29 pm | #

What's Wrong With America's Maritime Strategy?Data: Our present number of large, vulnerable aircraft carriers ... further nuclear reduction in NATO A. INF Treaty more favorable to Soviets than NATO B. ...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/mi...rt/1989/ WSM.htm
New Study: The United States is the Primary Supplier of Post-Cold ...The weapons, ranging from fighter aircraft and helicopters to armored personnel carriers and small arms, have either been sold at bargain basement prices or ...
http://commondreams.org/headline...s01/0717- 05.htm

Defend Iraq Against U.S. Imperialist Attack! (February 199U.S. aircraft carrier George Washington in the Persian Gulf, February 1998. ... The war danger comes straight from the U.S. and its NATO and UN ...
http://www.internationalist.org/...rg/ iraq005.html

Treason Abounds ~ Gov't Cabal Plots North American Union (NAU)Our country is being sold out from beneath us, often to foreign entities who ...... the Senate to narrowly vote for the Carter-Torrijos Treaty on April 18, ...
http:// www.stopthenorthamericanu...sonAbounds.html

The Truth Seeker - Bilderberg 2007 Final Report, part 1Chinese Navy to build two carriers with Russian help – agency Although it is ..... It was commonly agreed by the attendees that the US-led NATO alliance and ...
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/...cle.asp? ID=6696 - 50k

OneVoice Blog, Empowering Israeli and Palestinian Citizens Against ...UN NATO Russia and IDF declare officially to the Vatican Authorities a life or ...... (b) U N authorities are on board U S carrier groups and escort ships, ...
http:// blog.onevoicemovement.org...cretary_of.html

A must-read for every concerned world citizenUnited Nations treaty collection Under Article 102 of the Charter of the United Nations, ..... cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is ...
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/ worldci...orldcitizen.htm - 42k

JSTOR: The Treaty Makers and the Law Makers: The Law of the Land ...The United Nations Charter, a treaty to which more than eighty nations are now ..... e.g., taxes on non- residents on income from sources abroad; treason. ...
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici...%3E2.0.CO%3B2- 3

EurealistThe Treaty however, gave Community law supremacy over our law. ..... We are in NATO and also take part in the United Nations, but neither of those two make ...
http://eurealitshome.com/blog/in...php? tag=treason

Withdrawing from the United NationsIn this case, the basisfor U.S. membership in the United Nations lies in both international treaty and in domestic law. If the United States were to ...
http://www.conservativeusa.org/U...g/ UN100ways.htm

GlobaLex - Finding the Law: the Micro-States and Small ...The Maritime Law Association of the United States, Web Links to sources of admiralty and ...... Nordic treaties can be found on the UN Treaty database ...
http://www.nyulawglobal.com/ glob...Microstates.htm - 718k
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:26 pm | #

PNAC Neocons — Brainchild’s of 9/11! In their Rebuilding America’s Defenses…statement, the PNAC wrote, “...The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.” The leaders of the PNAC had the motive, means, and determination to carry out the 9/11 attacks. Usama Bin Laden, alone could not have fabricated the elaborate scheme. To sidetrack the defenses of the United States, it was necessary to have accomplices in the highest levels of the government.
http://911exposed.org/PNAC.htm
The Pentagon Navy Command Center was the Target of the Attack. Why might someone want to target the Naval Command Center? Most people know of the NORAD “all seeing” defensive network, with radar and satellite capabilities. But in their shadow, the NCC also was a very formable command and control facility, with some overlapping capacities. The site of the attack occurred on the first floor at the Naval Command Center portion of the Pentagon. Whoever carried out the attacks, didn't want the Navy to know what was really going on...
http://911exposed.org/NCC.htm
2001 Amalgam Virgo exercise -- dress Rehearsal for 9-11. This little known exercise had all the elements in it that the alleged terrorists would have needed to practice for... Among other things, this exercise, which was run only two months prior to 9/11, was composed of: Osama Bin Laden terror theme, terrorist hijacking of an airliner, suicide attacks with planes, multi-coordinated and varied attacks on different targets, eluding a multifaceted defense network with confusing flight patterns, attacking civilians, cities, and large buildings, using MQM-107 drones masquerading as cruise missiles, being remote-controlled from a circling aircraft that relayed signals from the ground.
http://911exposed.org/Almalgam.htm
Cheney's “Stand Down” Order-Explore the Norman Mineta testimony of Cheney's order to "Stand Down"...
http://911exposed.org/Stand%20Down.htm
The Rumsfeld DoD hijacking Directive. Few people know that the defenses of the United States were hijacked on 9-11 even before the doomed airliners tookoff !!! See the documents that were signed and implemented prior to 9-11 that had ensured the success of the attacks. The documents originated at the top of the Pentagon.
http://911exposed.org/Directive.htm
“Was it a just coincidence that Flight 77 was loaded with passengers with DoD and military backgrounds, mostly Navy and that the crash at the Pentagon happened in the Navy’s command center?”
http://911exposed.org/PassengersDoD.htm
The Hijackers - CIA assets. Right after 9-11, government officials quickly trumped up a list of hijackers -- complete with photos. FBI director Mueller later admitted that "we have not uncovered a single piece of paper" that connected the hijackers to 9-11 attacks! Several alleged hijackers are still alive -- outraged that their names and photos are being broadcast on TV and being labeled as terrorists. But the big government secret is that the hijackers were supported and trained by our U.S. military and the CIA!!!
http://911exposed.org/Hijackers.htm
Flight 77 never went back to Washington! Even with perfect flying skills, it was impossible to have made back to Washington to have attacked the Pentagon. Calculations show that the plane would have to have been traveling at greater than its maximum speed!
http://911exposed.org/Washington.htm
Video of Pentagon Plane shown while Barak speaks on BBC! On the morning of 9/11, Ehud Barak, the former Israel’s prime minister was in London doing an interview with BBC. He came on the BBC at the precise time of the attacks and gave a speech in which he attacked Israel's enemies!
http://911exposed.org/BBC.htm
Pentagon Parking Lot Video is a fraud! High-contrast close ups show that Photoshop “pencil work” was added to the images, also time-stamps are incorrect, and other inconsistencies reveal an effort by the Pentagon to deceive the public. Dozens of cameras in and around the Pentagon would have revealed that a Boeing 757 never hit the Pentagon, however these videos had been confiscated and the public prohibited to view them.
http://911exposed.org/PentVideo.htm
Controlled demolition at the Pentagon. Multiple explosions, claims by witnesses of seeing "bombs", smells of gunpowder, and evidence of blast damage, show that jet fuel had little to do with the damage to the Pentagon on 9-11.
http://911exposed.org/Attack1.htm
Before and after photos show that the crime scene was tampered with.
http://911exposed.org/DebrisStaged.htm
Most Witnesses had Agendas. Witnesses like Rick Renzi, who was well connected to the Bush Administration identified himself as "a law student". Some witnesses would become future Homeland Security officials and others were owners of businesses connected to the Bush administration like "big oil".
http://911exposed.org/Witnesses.htm
Witnesses see a C-130 military aircraft circling above the Pentagon at the time of the attack. What was it doing? Why was it airborne in defiance of a mandated FAA grounding and even more interestingly why would Air Force leaders consider it more important to launch a C-130 and not a jet interceptor?
http://911exposed.org/C130.htm
Don't think a drone (cruise missile) was involved in the 9-11 Attacks? Learn about the capabilities of drones like the Global Hawk and Cruise Missiles.
http://911exposed.org/Missile.htm
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:24 pm | #

according to DICK "tater" CHENEY on Larry King live,,Hillary Clinton is "enforcing enemy propaganda" by asking Roberty Gates for a withdrawal timetable for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq...?
& that,according to George BUSHitlers recent Iraq executive order is indeed a violation of BusHITLERS Iraq exectutive order& is in fact obstructing BUSHitlers conduct of the Iraq war & therefore the Clintons assets,including all property & money should be immedfiately confiscated & seized by homeland security?
where is the line in the sand folks?? are the Clintons in fact different from the rest of us & immuned from BUSHitler's Iraq exectutive order?So let me get this right...
the Clintons are allowed to obstruct BUSHitlers conduct of the Iraq war whenever they feel like it & not suffer the penalties spelled out in said exectutive order& not lose their property & money?
I'm writing my Congressman ,Ron Paul right now!
randy | 08.05.07 - 8:15 pm | #

Karzai: Osama hunt's gone nowhere
http://rawstory.com/ showarticle....FD8QR2P3O2.html
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6 years and $3 trillion later.

How long are they gonna use this Boogie Man?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:12 pm | #

Holy Shit:
How much evidence of Nazi influence do people need? Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:01 pm | #

Holy crap.........this just keeps getting stranger and stranger.........our country/world is being ran by damn criminals!! Boy, it's coming apart at the seams faster than hell!!

Great links boys
Peace | 08.05.07 - 8:11 pm | #

Man jumps White House fence
22-year-old 'not fully clothed' man arrested for unlawful entry.
http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...SE- INTRUDER.xml

This article and this article:
FBI RAIDS ATTORNEY'S HOME WITH SECRET WARRANT
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ FB...me_in_0805.html

Mean they are trying to test MARTIAL LAW.

Guys-that "secret" warrent = NO WARRENT = Unconstitutional.

These are unconstitutional and the best way to stop this ASAP is via....

GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION INTO EXECUTIVE POWER-

psssst pass is on
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:11 pm | #

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr...line/camp/talk/ - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:05 pm | #

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First your webpage now this; you just like ot make me cry.....keep it up.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:10 pm | #

United States Constitution
http://www.law.cornell.edu/const...tion/ index.html
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:06 pm | #

frontline: memory of the camps: join the discussion | PBSAlthough I do not remember the filming the memory of that feeling of ... FRONTLINE has rebroadcast "Memory of the Camps" several times since its first ...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr...line/camp/talk/ - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:05 pm | #

Holy Shit:
How much evidence of Nazi influence do people need?
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Ar...Hitler- Bush.htm

http://www.rense.com/general39/amm.htm

"the Gun Control Act of 1968 wasn't simply an American creation: it was taken from Nazi Germany's gun control laws of 1938 word for word."
http://home.swipnet.se/allez/ Loc...cret_police.htm
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:01 pm | #

Romney Unplugged: GOP Hopeful Tussles With Radio Host Off-Air
http://www.politico.com/blogs/ jo..._unplugged.html

Jeri Thompson: From Cheerleader To Campaign Architect
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews

"24" Takes On Fight Against Global Warming
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? nav=hcmodule
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:00 pm | #

House Passes $460 Billion Pentagon Budget
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...fense-spending/
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:57 pm | #

Iraqi Police Find 60 Bodies Dumped North Of Baghdad
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/...k/ L05682223.htm
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:56 pm | #

Bush Admin On The Hunt: FBI Raided Fmr DOJ Lawyer's Home In Search For Wiretapping Leaker
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:55 pm | #

Watch and read this entire speech and see if lower welfare classes in the United States and disenfranchised voters do not share Dr. Paul's vision of freedom, liberty, and justice for all:
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Malcolm X - Ballot or Bullet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...h? v=CRNciryImqg
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/ ...lotorbullet.htm

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Excerpts:
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"This is part of what’s wrong with you -- you do too much singing. Today it’s time to stop singing and start swinging. You can’t sing up on freedom, but you can swing up on some freedom. Cassius Clay can sing, but singing didn’t help him to become the heavyweight champion of the world; swinging helped him become the heavyweight champion. This government has failed us; the government itself has failed us, and the white liberals who have been posing as our friends have failed us.

"And once we see that all these other sources to which we’ve turned have failed, we stop turning to them and turn to ourselves. We need a self help program, a do-it -- a-do-it-yourself philosophy, a do-it-right-now philosophy, a it’s-already-too-late philosophy. This is what you and I need to get with, and the only time -- the only way we're going to solve our problem is with a self-help program. Before we can get a self-help program started we have to have a self-help philosophy....

"America is just as much a colonial power as England ever was. America is just as much a colonial power as France ever was. In fact, America is more so a colonial power than they because she’s a hypocritical colonial power behind it.

"What is 20th -- What do you call second class citizenship? Why, that’s colonization. Second class citizenship is nothing but 20th century slavery. How you gonna tell me you’re a second class citizen? They don’t have second class citizenship in any other government on this earth. They just have slaves and people who are free. Well this country is a hypocrite. They try and make you think they set you free by calling you a second class citizen. No, you’re nothing but a 20th century slave....

"So today, our people are disillusioned. They’ve become disenchanted. They’ve become dissatisfied, and in their frustrations they want action.

"And in 1964 you’ll see this young black man, this new generation asking for the ballot or the bullet. That old Uncle Tom action is outdated. The young generation don’t want to hear anything about the odds are against us. What do we care about odds?

"When this country here was first being founded there were 13 colonies. The -- The whites were colonized. They were fed up with this taxation without representation, so some of them stood up and said “liberty or death.” Though I went to a white school over here in Mason, Michigan, the white man made the mistake of letting me read his history books. He made the mistake of teaching me that Patrick Henry was a patriot, and George Washington, wasn’t nothing non-violent about old Pat or George Washington.

"Liberty or death was what brought about the freedom of whites in this country from the English. They didn’t care about the odds. Why they faced the wrath of the entire British Empire. And in those days they used to say that the British Empire was so vast and so powerful when the sun -- the sun would never set on it. This is how big it was, yet these 13 little scrawny states, tired of taxation without representation, tired of being exploited and oppressed and degraded, told that big British Empire 'liberty or death.'"
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:51 pm | #

Another good point of information Sane!

What Does it Take to Impeach George Bush
Posted on August 5th, 2007 by DefiantRican
http://www.defiantrican.com/2007...ch-george-bush/
What will it take for this jerk to be impeached! Bill Clinton gets some head under the desk at the Oval Office, and everyone screams and yells and calls for impeachment. Why? So what that he got is rocks off. So what that he lied about it. What is the big deal? Atleast his lie, did not cost thousands of lives. Bush, on the other hand, has lied continuously throughout his presidnecy and nothing is done about it. Weapons of mass destrcution my ass. He used that excuse to try and feel like a man with the most powerful army in the world. He wanted to exercise that power. Look at what it has done. Thousand dead, for what? To save a nickel of a gallon of gas? Not even. Gas prices have never been so high. His presidency is a complete joke. You would think that one should have to atleast be able to spell. He reacts when he wants to react. Hurricane Katrina came and devastated a poverty stricken area of the country and what did he do, he sat there playing golf. it took him over a week to get there. Not only is he worthless, but also a racists. Bridge falls in the middle of an uptown area in Minnesota, Bush is there in a flash. His resume is getting rather impressive:

Homocide, genocide, racism, stupidity, and destroying our civil liberties and rights granted to us by the Constitution. This is the man should be leading our nation? This is a man that should be behind bars. Out of the office. This is a man, who’s family is tied to terrorists, yet he claims to be fighting a war on terror. Wake up America!! We are in the middle of a hostile take over. Bush vs. Clinton for impeachment? Hmmm.. Not a hard question or an answer.
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Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:51 pm | #

Oh, make that mccain in thu toilet. Why does this moron even bother?
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 7:46 pm | #

Ron Paul Interview 1988. For 20 Years he has been saying the same thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h? v=anmlPvmd1Ew
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My gosh, I just got done watching this...

Dr. Paul must be the most intelligent government servant since Thomas Jefferson.

How is he not 99% in the polls? Incredible how the government continues to rule us with fear and making us feel powerless. There is no weapon that can defeat the human spirit.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:45 pm | #

Ron Paul

18,387

Mitt Romney
2,897

Rudy Giuliani
2,467

Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
2,283

Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
1,918

Mike Huckabee
1,756

Sam Brownback
941

Tom Tancredo
527

John McCain
483

Tommy Thompson
350

Duncan Hunter
320
Total Vote: 32,329
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:39 pm | #

Go here to vote on who won the debate this morning:
http://abcnews.go.com/
So far, out of 32,000 votes, Ron Paul still has over 50 % out of 9 candidates. Even gooliani an mccain only got about 10 % each. Gosh I wonder who won?
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 7:33 pm | #

Water as a weapon??

http://miami.indymedia.org/news/...news/...007/05/ 8296.php
Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:12 pm | #

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I am unsure about such a complex plan of specific targeting being built into the infrastructure. (No one in LA drinks the water anyway) I think water will be witheld, it will be an issue of scarcity, water will be the next oil.

Bolivia's famed "water war" of 2001

http://www.globalpolicy.org/ soce...01waterpriv.htm
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:33 pm | #

Sane, GREAT LINK!!!

Who are the FEMA, the MJTF and FINCEN? - An insider reveals a taste of things to come.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:27 pm | #
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It was from Tired of the Lies - Wish he spent more time here
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:31 pm | #

Sane, GREAT LINK!!!

Who are the FEMA, the MJTF and FINCEN? - An insider reveals a taste of things to come.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:27 pm | #

Hi guys sorry for any bulshit last night i was drunk and shuld not had gone online
Lars | 08.05.07 - 7:21 pm | #

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Don't worry about it buddy. You behaved yourself and most of us here have done the same thing. Don't sweat it, we still likes ya.
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 7:26 pm | #

Hi guys sorry for any bulshit last night i was drunk and shuld not had gone online
Lars | 08.05.07 - 7:21 pm | #

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You were a pleasant drunk! You were far from a problem.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:24 pm | #

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>>>>RON PAUL ON FOX BIG STORY AUGUST 05, 2007 part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h? v=xDa59TBR_38
>>>>RON PAUL ON FOX BIG STORY AUGUST 05, 2007 part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h?v=eaFMi- O6AaE
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:22 pm | #

Hi guys sorry for any bulshit last night i was drunk and shuld not had gone online
Lars | 08.05.07 - 7:21 pm | #

Money is a game......

http://www.moneyweek.com/file/21...s- illusory.html

http://www.moneyweek.com/file/15...on-the- way.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Fed..._Reserve_System

“the profits recession has already started. It’s just not evident yet in the year-over-year numbers”.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:15 pm | #

Water as a weapon??

http://miami.indymedia.org/news/...007/05/ 8296.php
Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:12 pm | #

What a great video Sane!
NWO ranked #1 Scariest YouTube Video
Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:06 pm | #

CNN JUST REPORTED: COST OF IRAQ WAR COULD BE OVER $2 TRILLION
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:49 pm | #

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Get your cash into real property and metals! The currency is poised t fall....
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:53 pm | #

We can revive the true spirit of America
7 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (1 rating)
Ron Paul, Kansas City, Missouri June 15th, 2007..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...h? v=h_dJi5ND954
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:53 pm | #

12 to 15 years shelf life.
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 6:34 pm | #

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the hunting is good up there! Need to bring good cold weather gear......have a plan.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:52 pm | #

CNN JUST REPORTED: COST OF IRAQ WAR COULD BE OVER $2 TRILLION
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:49 pm | #

I ask you all, are there not 2 systems of justice in this dictatorship?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:45 pm | #

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Clearly so.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:49 pm | #

This stands in direct conflict with the behavior of our government:

http://www.archives.gov/ national..._of_rights.html

Just a few of the transgreesions:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocu...cus/patriotact/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20061017- 1.html

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...0070509- 12.html
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:47 pm | #

The Patriot Act is very clear on this offense, but there is a reason that Big Media [AOL/GE/NewsCorp/Viacom/Disney] and NGO's [AEI/PNAC/Brookings/CFR/Heritage/Bilderberg/ Beohemian Society/Council of 300] do not worry about any actual criminal investigations. The entire Act is completely unconstitutional:
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Patriot Act:
SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
(a) Domestic Terrorism Defined.--Section 2331 [any of the following]
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended--
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion...
http://www.eff.org/Censorship/ Te...atriot_act.html
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In addition the unconstitutional patriot act allows for all of this treasonous activity to be fully investigated under RICO.
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SEC. 813. INCLUSION OF ACTS OF TERRORISM AS RACKETEERING ACTIVITY.
Section 1961(1) of title 18, United States Code, is amended
http://www.eff.org/Censorship/ Te...atriot_act.html
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Like the tax law, they know the Patriot Act is unconstitutional so they do not worry, just like the IRS and Federal Reserve are unconstitutional so they do not pay taxes.

I ask you all, are there not 2 systems of justice in this dictatorship?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:45 pm | #

"What about the expense? Let's put it this way: we're spending at least $150 billion to promote democracy in Iraq. That's about $1,500 for each vote cast in the 2000 election. How can we balk at spending a small fraction of that sum to secure the credibility of democracy at home?" -Democracy At Risk By PAUL KRUGMAN New York Times January 23, 2004

"To say that the [Bush-Cheney] secret presidency is undemocratic is an understatement. I'm anything but skittish about government, but I must say this administration is truly scary and, given the times we live in, frighteningly dangerous."- (former Nixon White House counsel ) JOHN DEAN

"Jeb Bush says he won't allow an independent examination of voting machines because he has "every confidence" in his handpicked election officials. Yet those officials have a history of slipshod performance on other matters related to voting and somehow their errors always end up favoring Republicans. Why should anyone trust their verdict on the integrity of voting machines, when another convenient mistake could deliver a Republican victory in a high-stakes national election?" -Fear of Fraud By PAUL KRUGMAN New York Times 27 July 2004

"It's not too hard to get your vote lost - if some politicians want it to be lost." -1.9 Million Black Votes Didn't Count in the 2000 Presidential Election By Greg Palast San Francisco Chronicle June 20, 2004

"Maybe the Diebold decision makes sense, if you believe, to paraphrase Henry Kissinger, that democracy is too important to leave up to the votes of the people." -Diebold, Electronic Voting and the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy By Bob Fitrakis The Columbus Free Press February 25, 2004

"John Dean, of Watergate fame, says, "I've been watching all the elements fall into place for two possible political catastrophes, one that will take the air out of the Bush-Cheney balloon and the other, far more disquieting, that will take the air out of democracy." - "This Isn't America", By Paul Krugman, The New York Times, Tuesday 30 March 2004

"If I may, I'd like to remind you what I said at the State of the Union. Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to each and every person. And that's what I believe. I believe that when we see totalitarianism, that we must deal with it."- George W. Bush, prime time press conference, White House, Mar. 6, 2003

"We were premature in praising Gov. Jeb Bush for taking the high road in the matter of restoring voting rights for felons who have served their sentences and been released from prison." --Bush Takes Back Good Move on Voting Pensacola News Journal Tuesday 27 July 2004

'On November 2 millions of Americans will cast their votes for President in computerized voting systems that can be rigged by corporate or local-election insiders. Some 98 million citizens, five out of every six of the roughly 115 million who will go to the polls, will consign their votes into computers that unidentified computer programmers, working in the main for four private corporations and the officials of 10,500 election jurisdictions, could program to invisibly falsify the outcomes. The result could be the failure of an American presidential election and its collapse into suspicions, accusations and a civic fury that will make Florida 2000 seem like a family spat in the kitchen. Robert Reich, Bill Clinton's Labor Secretary, has written, "Automated voting machines will be easily rigged, with no paper trails to document abuses."' -How They Could Steal the Election this Time By Ronnie Dugger The Nation Thursday 29 July 2004 http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/...4/ 080304D.shtml

"Bush has not led the nation to unity, but ruled through fear and division. Dishonesty and deceit in areas critical to the public interest have been the hallmark of his Administration." -I Smell a Rat By Colin Shea http://FreezerBox.com Friday 12 November 2004

"I think that right now we are in one of the most dangerous periods in our existence.
Not since the Civil War has the state of our democracy been so doubtful....I think this election is perhaps the most important in the last century, going back
perhaps to the Civil War." - Walter Cronkite

"The election of 2004 is the most important--fateful--since 1860, which unlocked the door to civil war."- Gore Vidal

"No one will ever see all the details but the [current] crookedness is unique in our history. Enron was the first storm warning but no one realized how easily accepted that cluster of capers would be by a polity marinated in corruption -- as Ben Franklin predicted, in 1789, as our eventual fate." - from "Gore Vidal Delivers Chilling Predictions of Despotism" By Arthur Jones, 8/2/03

"We are on the precipice of being so ignorant that our democracy is threatened." - Veteran News anchor Walter Cronkite, selected by the American people in the mid 1990s as "the most trusted man in America"
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:44 pm | #

Vote Ron Paul 2008.
jbrid1138 | 08.05.07 - 6:44 pm | #

Candidates@Google: Ron Paul
1 hr 6 min - Jul 14, 2007 - (3863 ratings)
2008 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul in discusion with Google executive Elliot Schrage as part of the company's Candidates@Google series....ron paul candidates@google
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h? v=yCM_wQy4YVg

Ron Paul of Texas - The End of Dollar Hegemony
35 min - Aug 31, 2006 - (256 ratings)
.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/ cr021506.htm...C-SPAN...HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS Before the US
http://video.google.com/ videopla...695139643041382

Ron Paul on dissent in a time of war.
24 min - May 22, 2007 - (696 ratings)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...391565012624048

Congressman Ron Paul Speaks Out AGAINST War With IRAN - April ...
44 min - Apr 20, 2006 - (222 ratings)
Ron Paul addresses the House of Representitives against the bi-partisan tide of war-mongerers. He gives an excellent historical case on why and how this deception
http://video.google.com/ videopla...931596878368112

Congressman Ron Paul, MD - We've Been NeoConned
51 min - Jan 24, 2007 - (213 ratings)
org No sexy, hot girls, babes, or bikini contest footage here. But it's Congressman Ron Paul....Congressman Ron Paul, MD
http://video.google.com/ videopla...174553630131591

RON PAUL ON THE U.S. ECONOMY - with GoldSilver.com's Mike M
43 min - Jun 7, 2007 - (52 ratings)
A fascinating one on one interview with Congressman Ron Paul, Republican Presidential candidate from the state of Texas. Congressman Paul, perhaps the last honest politician in Wahington
http://video.google.com/ videopla...924545087333822

RonPaulIowaStrawPollDVD.mpg
40 min - Jul 7, 2007 - (222 ratings)
time to act. Vote in the Iowa GOP straw poll. Join a Ron Paul meetup group at ronpaul.meetup.com Be a part of the revolution
http://video.google.com/ videopla...724646717174405

Congressman Ron Paul on Conservative Roundtable
28 min - Jul 12, 2007 - (195 ratings)
Roundtable, hosted by Howard Phillips, welcomes Dr. Ron Paul, Republican congressman from Surfside, TX. Paul talks about his run to reclaim his seat after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...h? v=_suZvyB69YM

Ron Paul Speech Las Vegas 7/7/07
44 min - Jul 9, 2007 - (21 ratings)
Ron Paul speaking at the Paris Hotel in Las Vegas NV about is presidential campaign. July 7, 2007.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...202010210782365

Neo-CONNED speech by Ron Paul
51 min - May 23, 2007 - (10 ratings)
Neo-CONNED is a speech Ron Paul gave on the house floor July 10, 2003. This is very important as it goes over many aspects of the
http://video.google.com/ videopla...829089909498224
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:40 pm | #

I think it has been slowly dying since 1913. I am again becoming to cynical for words. I am heading out of town......big time.
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:28 pm | #
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Me too.
Alaskan wilderness, here I come.
Take a whole bunch of Freeze dried food.
12 to 15 years shelf life.
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 6:34 pm | #

IT IS ALL STILL ILLEGAL.

It is not enforced by the rule of law but by the rule of POLICE POWER.

We are being conned big time.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:13 pm | #

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I would argue on the face of it that it is legal if the law says it is legal (interpretation of the law, and we know who sits on the bench). But on precedent they are obviously wrong! Also on moral grounds, not legal, they are wrong....but they have the system wrapped up and only about 10% to the 300,000,000 are saying anything against this BS.
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:26 pm | #
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Any law which violates the constitution is illegal unless it is fully ratified as a new amendment:
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Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
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Like the IRS/Federal Reserve, the elites know these laws are BS as they have never followed the constitutional guidelines to amend the constitution.

Just like the patriot act in which every major corporation has violated numerous times.

Look at how Bush talks about taxes, he know the IRS is illegal.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=36290#121119
All of this is pomp and circumstance and every court case challenging the patriot act wins.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:33 pm | #

Did you all hear Alex tell the Mason guy to tell Lucifer for me?
I laughed my ass off!
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 6:32 pm | #

dude where's my country???
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:21 pm | #

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I think it has been slowly dying since 1913. I am again becoming to cynical for words. I am heading out of town......big time.
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:28 pm | #

Freeway Campaigning for Ron Paul
5 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (4 ratings)
The Austin Ron Paul 2008 Meetup Group hits the street to campaign...Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...h? v=nBTS7tNY29o
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:27 pm | #

>>>>>>>>George Bush knows the IRS is a fraud, but only the elites can escape this fraud (this guy has got to be one of the stupidist people known to man to let this smoking gun out on over 20 separate occasions while he was president, I have noted 8 ):

7/14/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...0040714- 11.html
THE PRESIDENT: ...People need to be aware of this talk out of Washington, D.C. that says, oh, don't worry, we're just going to tax the rich. That's not the way it works in the tax code. The big rich dodge taxes, anyway. It's companies like this who end up paying more taxes.
8/3/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040830- 6.html
THE PRESIDENT: ...He said, tax the rich. You've heard that before haven't you? You know what that means. The rich dodge and you pay.
8/13/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040813- 7.html
THE PRESIDENT:...I'll give you one other thought. Let me just leave you with one other thought about taxing the rich. You know how that works. A lot of the rich are able to get accountants, so they don't -- they're able to dodge. You've seen it before. We're going to tax the rich, and then they figure out how not to get taxed.
8/28/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040828- 2.html
THE PRESIDENT: ...Every time they say, tax the rich, the rich dodge and you pay.
9/1/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040901- 6.html
THE PRESIDENT: ...You know what it means, tax the rich. It means the rich dodge and you get stuck with the bill.
9/3/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040903- 9.html
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah, we've heard that before, haven't we? First of all, you can't raise enough money by taxing the rich to support all his programs. Secondly, the rich figure out a way to dodge it, and you get stuck with the bill.
9/7/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...9/ 20040907.html
THE PRESIDENT:Yes. Oh, don't worry, we'll tax the rich. Well, that's why the rich hire accountants and lawyers. They dodge, you pay...
10/11/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20041011- 2.html
THE PRESIDENT: ...Something else about taxing the rich -- the rich hire lawyers and accountants for a reason, to dodge the tax bill and stick you with it.
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WELCOME TO REALITY, NOW WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Then after he gets realected by saying he will not let the rich use the constitution to get out of paying taxes...he makes it easier for the elites:
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I.R.S. to Cut Tax Auditors Who Watch for Fraud Among Richest AmericansI.R.S. to Cut Tax Auditors Who Watch for Fraud Among Richest Americans ... called the cuts a “back-door way for the Bush administration to achieve what it ...
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles/ 2006/bush_cuts_tax_auditors.php - 16k - Cached - Similar pages
Bush Arrogantly Halves IRS Auditors For Wealthiest Few After ...Bush Arrogantly Halves IRS Auditors For Wealthiest Few After Congress Says "No" To His Cuts. Written by Jet in Columbus Published July 25, 2006. See also: ...
http://blogcritics.org/archives/...7/25/ 172227.php - 169k - Cached - Similar pages
Christopher Brauchli: Show and Tell at the IRSHis Last Hurrah: Bush Cuts and Runs from Reason. William Johnson ..... To couple the loss of a loved one with an audit by the IRS of the loved one's estate ...
http://www.counterpunch.org/ brau...li01122007.html - 104k - Cached - Similar pages
July 28, 2006 : Democrats Want Time to Review Bush Administration ...Democrats Want Time to Review Bush Administration Plan to Cut Most Productive IRS Auditors. Lawmakers Write: “We ask that you immediately delay this ...
http://www.house.gov/rothman/new...2006/ july28.htm - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
Clark Skatoff LLP : IRS to Cut Estate Tax AuditorsIRS to Cut Estate Tax Auditors. The New York Times is reporting that the Internal ... were obliged to pay estate taxes under President Bush’s legislation. ...
http://attorneyblawg.typepad.com/ skatoff/2006/07/irs_to_cut_esta.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
IRS Cans Elite Auditors, Undermining Estate Tax - The NewStandardCritics of a plan to eliminate IRS staff who audit the wealthy’s tax returns ... The 2001 Bush tax cuts included gradual estate-tax exemptions for wealthy ...
http://newstandardnews.net/conte....cfm/items/ 3482 - 21k - Cached - Similar pages
Bush Administration to Cut Tax Auditors - NewsCloud.comBush Administration to Cut Tax AuditorsThe federal government is moving to eliminate the jobs of ... Bush Administration Cuts Audit Staff at IRS for Wealthy ...
http://www.newscloud.com/read/Bush_ Administration_to_Cut_Tax_Auditors - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Thoughts of an Average Woman: If You Can't Pass the Paris Hilton ...Stop the firing of the 157 IRS auditors, immediately. Instead fire lackey, deputy commissioner Kevin Brown immediately, as ell as Bush crony Mark W. Everson ...
http://toaaw.typepad.com/toaaw/ 2...u_cant_pas.html - 40k - Cached - Similar pages
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Tyranny, police state, taxation without representation, monarchy, 2 systems of justice, 2 systems of taxation, leaders that lie and others that support the lies, dude where's my country???
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:21 pm | #

Keith Olbermann delivers arguably his most pointed and most powerful Special Comment yet on the ramifications of Bush’s commutation of Libby’s sentence.
Thank you Nicole Belle for the transcript!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-united-states/
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Finally tonight, as promised, a Special Comment on what is, in everything but name, George Bush’s pardon of Scooter Libby. “I didn’t vote for him,” an American once said, “But he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” That — on this eve of the 4th of July — is the essence of this democracy, in seventeen words. And that is what President Bush threw away yesterday in commuting the sentence of Lewis “Scooter” Libby. The man who said those seventeen words — improbably enough — was the actor John Wayne. And Wayne, an ultra-conservative, said them, when he learned of the hair’s-breadth election of John F. Kennedy instead of his personal favorite, Richard Nixon in 1960. “I didn’t vote for him but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” The sentiment was doubtlessly expressed earlier. But there is something especially appropriate about hearing it, now, in Wayne’s voice. The crisp matter-of-fact acknowledgement that we have survived, even though for nearly two centuries now, our Commander-in-Chief has also served, simultaneously, as the head of one political party and often the scourge of all others. We as citizens must, at some point, ignore a president’s partisanship. Not that we may “prosper” as a nation, not that we may “achieve”, not that we may “lead the world” — but merely that we may “function.” But just as essential to the seventeen words of John Wayne is an implicit trust — a sacred trust:That the president for whom so many did not vote, can in turn suspend his political self long enough, and for matters imperative enough, to conduct himself solely for the benefit of the entire Republic. Our generation’s willingness to state “we didn’t vote for him, but he’s our president, and we hope he does a good job,” was tested in the crucible of history, and far earlier than most. And in circumstances more tragic and threatening. And we did that with which history tasked us. We enveloped “our” President in 2001. And those who did not believe he should have been elected — indeed, those who did not believe he had been elected — willingly lowered their voices and assented to the sacred oath of non-partisanship. And George W. Bush took our assent, and re-configured it, and honed it, and sharpened it to a razor-sharp point, and stabbed this nation in the back with it.

Were there any remaining lingering doubt otherwise, or any remaining lingering hope, it ended yesterday when Mr. Bush commuted the prison sentence of one of his own staffers. Did so even before the appeals process was complete… Did so without as much as a courtesy consultation with the Department of Justice… Did so despite what James Madison –at the Constitutional Convention — said about impeaching any president who pardoned or sheltered those who had committed crimes “advised by” that president… Did so without the slightest concern that even the most detached of citizens must look at the chain of events and wonder: To what degree was Mr. Libby told: break the law however you wish — the President will keep you out of prison? In that moment, Mr. Bush, you broke that fundamental compact between yourself and the majority of this nation’s citizens — the ones who did not cast votes for you. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you ceased to be the President of the United States. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you became merely the President… of a rabid and irresponsible corner of the Republican Party. And this is too important a time, sir, to have a Commander-in-Chief who puts party over nation. This has been, of course, the gathering legacy of this Administration. Few of its decisions have escaped the stain of politics. The extraordinary Karl Rove has spoken of “a permanent Republican majority,” as if such a thing — or a permanent Democratic majority — is not antithetical to that upon which rests: our country, our history, our revolution, our freedoms. Yet our democracy has survived shrewder men than Karl Rove. And it has survived the frequent stain of politics upon the fabric of government. But this administration, with ever-increasing insistence and almost theocratic zealotry, has turned that stain… into a massive oil spill. The protection of the environment is turned over to those of one political party, who will financially benefit from the rape of the environment. The protections of the Constitution are turned over to those of one political party, who believe those protections unnecessary and extravagant and “quaint.” The enforcement of the laws is turned over to those of one political party, who will swear beforehand that they will not enforce those laws. The choice between war and peace is turned over to those of one political party, who stand to gain vast wealth by ensuring that there is never peace, but only war.

And now, when just one cooked book gets corrected by an honest auditor… When just one trampling of the inherent and inviolable “fairness” of government is rejected by an impartial judge… When just one wild-eyed partisan is stopped by the figure of blind justice… This President decides that he, and not the law, must prevail....
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:20 pm | #

Keith Olbermann delivers arguably his most pointed and most powerful Special Comment yet on the ramifications of Bush’s commutation of Libby’s sentence.
Thank you Nicole Belle for the transcript!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-united-states/
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I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war.
I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient.
I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors.
I accuse you of subverting the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but instead to stifle dissent.
I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought.
I accuse you of exploiting that unreasoning fear, the natural fear of your own people who just want to live their lives in peace, as a political tool to slander your critics and libel your opponents.
I accuse you of handing part of this republic over to a Vice President who is without conscience, and letting him run roughshod over it.
And I accuse you now, Mr. Bush, of giving, through that Vice President, carte blanche to Mr. Libby, to help defame Ambassador Joseph Wilson by any means necessary, to lie to Grand Juries and Special Counsel and before a court, in order to protect the mechanisms and particulars of that defamation, with your guarantee that Libby would never see prison, and, in so doing, as Ambassador Wilson himself phrased it here last night, of you becoming an accessory to the obstruction of justice.

When President Nixon ordered the firing of the Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox during the infamous “Saturday Night Massacre” on October 20th, 1973, Mr. Cox initially responded tersely, and ominously: “Whether ours shall be a government of laws and not of men, is now for Congress, and ultimately, the American people.” President Nixon did not understand how he had crystallized the issue of Watergate for the American people. It had been about the obscure meaning behind an attempt to break in to a rival party’s headquarters; and the labyrinthine effort to cover-up that break-in and the related crimes. But in one night, Nixon transformed it. Watergate — instantaneously — became a simpler issue: a President overruling the inexorable march of the law. Of insisting — in a way that resonated viscerally with millions who had not previously understood — that he was the law. Not the Constitution. Not the Congress. Not the Courts. Just him. Just - Mr. Bush - as you did, yesterday.

The twists and turns of Plame-Gate, your precise and intricate lies that sent us into this bottomless pit of Iraq; your lies upon the lies to discredit Joe Wilson; your lies upon the lies upon the lies to throw the sand at the “referee” of Prosecutor Fitzgerald’s analogy… these are complex and often painful to follow, and too much, perhaps, for the average citizen. But when other citizens render a verdict against your man, Mr. Bush — and then you spit in the faces of those jurors and that judge and the judges who were yet to hear the appeal — the average citizen understands that, sir. It’s the fixed ballgame and the rigged casino and the pre-arranged lottery all rolled into one — and it stinks. And they know it. Nixon’s mistake, the last and most fatal of them, the firing of Archibald Cox, was enough to cost him the presidency. And in the end, even Richard Nixon could say he could not put this nation through an impeachment. It was far too late for it to matter then, but as the decades unfold, that single final gesture of non-partisanship, of acknowledged responsibility not to self, not to party, not to “base,” but to country, echoes loudly into history. Even Richard Nixon knew it was time to resign Would that you could say that, Mr. Bush. And that you could say it for Mr. Cheney. You both crossed the Rubicon yesterday. Which one of you chose the route, no longer matters. Which is the ventriloquist, and which the dummy, is irrelevant. But that you have twisted the machinery of government into nothing more than a tawdry machine of politics, is the only fact that remains relevant. It is nearly July 4th, Mr. Bush, the commemoration of the moment we Americans decided that rather than live under a King who made up the laws, or erased them, or ignored them — or commuted the sentences of those rightly convicted under them — we would force our independence, and regain our sacred freedoms. We of this time — and our leaders in Congress, of both parties — must now live up to those standards which echo through our history: Pressure, negotiate, impeach — get you, Mr. Bush, and Mr. Cheney, two men who are now perilous to our Democracy, away from its helm. And for you, Mr. Bush, and for Mr. Cheney, there is a lesser task. You need merely achieve a very low threshold indeed. Display just that iota of patriotism which Richard Nixon showed, on August 9th, 1974.

Resign.

And give us someone — anyone – about whom all of us might yet be able to quote John Wayne, and say, “I didn’t vote for him, but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.”

Good night, and good luck.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:20 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:19 pm | #

Who are the FEMA, the MJTF and FINCEN? - An insider reveals a taste of things to come.
http://home.swipnet.se/allez/ Loc...cret_police.htm
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Good evening. Once again we're brought together here for an opportunity to discuss the direction that this nation is moving towards. My name is Mark Koernke; I'm from Michigan. We'll be covering all aspects of everything we possibly can concerning the New World Order operations inside the United States. To begin with, I originally worked as an intelligence analyst from 1975 through 1981, first with a company out of Arizona, and then I moved on to the Fifth US Army Intelligence Center, where I worked both as an intelligence analyst and as a counter -intelligence co-ordinator. Later through the eighties up until the present time, I commanded two brigades of special warfare units that train US military forces in foreign warfare and tactics. We're going to start with the MJTF police, where it came from, what it's original mission was, what its mission is now. Through a series of political actions that started around approximately March 1989, the federal government extorted resources from most of the states, in fact all 50 states simultaneously within a short period, by passing laws in every state authorising the use of federal funding to convert local and state forces into national police forces. The MJTF police - Multi Jurisdictional Task Force - is in virtually every state of the union of the United States at this time. Its primary mission is house-to-house search and seizure, separation and categorisation of men, women and children in large numbers, the transfer to detention facilities and the use of those facilities for interrogation purposes. The MJTF are regular national guard, local law enforcement and street gangs converted to national police services. Remember that this was originally organised under George Herbert Walker Bush. We all know of course now that President Clinton has proposed a national police force. This is simply another name, in fact an overt name for the MJTF police. Now the model for the MJTF police is that they are the velvet glove on the iron fist. Anybody who is familiar with some of the speeches that have taken place may recall ex-President Reagan speaking in England approximately two months ago and commenting that the United Nations forces would be the velvet glove on the steel fist - this is a very popular phrase. It has been used extensively by these people that are within the New World Order operation. I don't know how you feel about this, but any time I've been hit with an iron fist I usually don't feel too good and a velvet glove doesn't make much difference. It should be noted that most of the resources are being drawn from, again, federal fundings for regional governments. Now the MJTF police are supported through strategic reserve aircraft that have been transferred to their resource. They will convert almost all of the existing local police agencies to national police forces after they've lifted personnel they do not consider trustworthy, and they will also incorporate street gangs.

Now if anybody has seen the guidelines - and we have copies of both - the original stated that "house-to-house search and seizures will be performed by military, law enforcement and civilian personnel". We all know who the military are - that's anybody in a green uniform or a blue uniform or the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard. We understand that there would be people in the national guard, reserve and active, our active military forces. We know who law enforcement personnel are; they are the constables, the individuals that you have at your local level all the way up to and including our secret police in the United States, such as the FBI, Central Intelligence Agency and other agencies that might be at their disposal, Defense Intelligence Agency, etc. But who are the civilians that are going to come into your home? I don't recall there being any guidelines for that in the Constitution. If anybody has listened to national public radio you will note that on several different occasions, specifically the tenth month of 1992, it was announced, and in fact it was a one hour special programme on national public radio about converting the street gangs to law enforcement agencies. We had been talking about this for years prior to its action. We knew that there preparatory actions taking place. Through these activities a truce was signed by most of the large gangs in the city of Los Angeles. At the time, there were negotiations in process in Chicago; and this was also taking place in New York. Since the initial actions, a full agreement has been signed in Los Angeles and both the Crips and the Bloods are now being trained, equipped and uniformed with federal funding through California. Chicago has finalised this agreement last week. New York is in the process of doing so some time in the next few weeks and we can assume that they will do this very quickly. Their mission is to be the forefront, the master forces that come through the door. Remember that the average federal agent makes anywhere from $47,000 to $57,000 a year. he is more or less looking at his pension. He is not concerned with risking his life, especially if he can find someone to throw in front of him as a sandbag. That's the mission of these brute forces that being organised. Since last I spoke, probably the best example - I'm sure that everybody listening here has heard about Waco, Texas - these forces that were on the ground were not effective fighting forces. When you retreat and leave wounded and dead lying on the ground that's called a rout, it's not a retreat. And this is symptomatic of professional forces that are there for the money. On the other hand, if you use the old mediaeval pillage principle and you have a profit mechanism set up in which you're allowed to confiscate properties, cars, jewellery, furniture, the neighbour's wife, whatever, then you're highly motivated to go through that door - and especially if you have been doing it illegally for an extensive period of time, and all of a sudden they're giving you the opportunity to be legitimised.

Why let the street gang situation foster or flourish the way it did? We had more than the capability to restrict the street gangs at the time when they came about. Most assuredly we had the capacity to restrict them in any way that we wished to. However, by allowing the street gangs to flourish, you create regimentation. Then the strong come to the top. These are your NCO's and leaders. And when you are finished you simply put them in uniform, then you have an organised military force at your disposal. They're thugs, but they're expendable thugs. Remember that. Now, MJTF police operations. There are several police actions that have taken place within the last two years. Starting in 1991, they participated in or were part of Operation Achilles which was a sweep from the southern Ohio valley up through to Michigan, by both the BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) and MJTF forces, to harass and eliminate FFL (Federal Firearms License) holders who were manufacturers and producers of components and arms. Their primary concern was not to confiscate or charge somebody with illegal arms but rather to acquire records and resources that were available and in the hands of the people who held the FFL. In every case where they went into these businesses, the only thing that they took were the records of who purchased products and where they lived -very important to understand. There were a series of other activities that took place after this. MJTF was deployed in Los Angeles during the LA riots, though there was only slight mention of it. All of the agencies are overlapping and under the general authority of the United Nations. In 1992 through early 1993, reorganisation was taking place to try and give the MJTF a greater credibility. There is an interesting piece that just came out that I was most fascinated with regarding firearms laws. It's a book concerning the Gun Control Act of 1968 in which it has been demonstrated that the Gun Control Act of 1968 wasn't simply an American creation: it was taken from Nazi Germany's gun control laws of 1938 word for word. Now that's very important when you consider this because we're not talking a few paragraphs here and there. The entire document is taken from Nazi Germany's Gun Control Law of 1938. If they're already at that level in 1968, then where are you going to go with our gun laws now? It should be understood that the MJTF police are not trusted by the federal agencies and eventually will be done away with. Again, the MJTF are useful but eventually will be swept to the side. Moving on beyond the MJTF police are - FINCEN. FINCEN, or Financial Crime Enforcement Network personnel, have as much to do with finances as the SAS had to do with airplanes. The SAS, Special Air Service, was a cover name for an entity which existed in England and was the equivalent to the OSS of world War II, 1941-45. FINCEN forces are for house-to-house search and seizure, separation and categorisation of men, women and children, transfer to detention facilities, securing properties acquired, but not the maintaining of detention camps. That will be the mission of the MJTF police.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:18 pm | #

Who are the FEMA, the MJTF and FINCEN? - An insider reveals a taste of things to come.
http://home.swipnet.se/allez/ Loc...cret_police.htm
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I should mention very quickly the detention camps themselves. Originally under FEMA, 23 detention camps were authorised. These detention camps were spread out across the United States. In addition to that, there are 20 supplemental camps that were authorised with the 1990-91 military fiscal budget. Carl Levin's DoD budget amendment 656 authorised the implementation of these 20 camps to supplement the 23 that were already authorised. There are now 43 camps in total that are predeployed inside the continental United States. In addition to that, there are supplemental camps or auxiliary camps through each state and in each region. An example of this would be the Nike Hercules site located near Monroe. That is a predesignated detention facility. The three sites that are located in Michigan: number one is located due north of Pickney, Michigan, due west of Brighton; the second is earmarked near Lansing, Michigan, the north-north-east; the third is Fort Custer military reservation which has been upgraded from a D-facility to a B-facility. This is very important because a D-facility is state-authorised and state-controlled. A B-facility on the hand, has been upgraded to federal status and is comparable to any of our, for instance, military facilities such as Fort Benning, Georgia, Dwight Patterson Air Force Base, any facility that we are presently using for active military forces. Now, FINCEN was organised utilising foreign military personnel, as a secret police force here in the United States. They are drawn from military and secret police forces overseas. They are predominantly European. We have Belgian, Dutch, German, French and a variety of Asian military personnel. It is known at this time, for instance, that FINCEN has an element in Montana that is made up of Ghurkhas. The 197th, mechanised as of one week ago, has deployed for a training operation that may last as long as two months in northern Montana through the Canadian frontier. It is the 197th mechanised infantry combined with two brigades of British mechanised infantry, the first Canadian armoured division, Gurkha mercenary forces, one Belgian brigade, one EC and another undetermined number of forces, all foreign. They originally were scheduled to work for approximately three weeks in the area but if this is similar to the last mobilisation that took place, you will find that they will be there for up to two and a half, three months. FINCEN forces are ruthless. There are - and I will use the regional map here - a number of forces spread throughout the ten regions. For those of you who are not familiar with regionalism, regionalism is a form of government that we are about to experience if the New World Order people have their way. Under regionalism, Michigan becomes not Michigan but Area 5. As Area 5, our capitol will be in Chicago. Under the new states constitution this particular type of government comes into power, and we're going to find that all of a sudden we're going to be part of this warm fuzzy New World Order real quick. Unfortunately, we'd never vote for a governor again. The Governor will be directly assigned by the President. The forces involved that we're going to see in FINCEN will be very well educated. They are professional military forces. They are, for all practical purposes, mercenaries. You're going to find that they normally serve an eight-year tour unlike the old American mechanism which was a six year tour, a mixed time of active and reserve component with IRR (Independent Rating Reserve). There are a lot of military forces that are being sent overseas. Doesn't anybody wonder while in this time of peace we're sending more and more of our military strength to Bosnia-Hercegovina, Somalia, Thailand and has anybody heard about our forces in Peru? I imagine not. Well, I'll give you a good example. We have twenty to twenty-one thousand personnel right now sitting off Yugoslavia's coast or in Yugoslavia at this time. We have approximately 20,000 mixed personnel functioning in Somalia. And that's 40,000 combat personnel. In addition to that we have 22,000 - 23,000 in Cambodia. Now we've got 60,000 people overseas and most of them are combat troops. Let's go one step farther - Desert Storm - one of those little actions that was missed by everybody is that during executive orders that were signed, 18,000 US military personnel were sent to Peru for policing operations there under UN authority. Now, this documented. We've got people who are down there right now. There are families and there are mothers that are highly concerned about the people that are in that place. They have lost people there. People have been killed. This receives no publicity. Yet it's going on. it's a prime example of "watch my right hand, hey, you didn't see what was going on over here, did you?" That's what we have to worry about. These people control the media completely.

What I do a lot of times and I recommend you do the same thing is videotape what's going on television but ignore most of what they say. Pay attention to the photographs. If they're really concerned with something they won't feed you much. But in many cases they'll feel the general population isn't observant, and there is more in a picture than there is in all that gobbledegook and words that they've fabricated. You have to ask yourself when you look at pieces of equipment, activities, why is this taking place. Where is this taking place? Is this actually what's going on? If you look at the expressions of the individuals, the activities, the attitudes, you know that something doesn't taste right. A lot of military people coming are tickled pink to leave Somalia as fast as they can throw their feet on a 747 or a 737 Airbus. There is a reason for that. It is a situation that is typical of the type that the United Nations has put us into. Of course, by the way, we're paying the bill too. This is not good. It should be noted that a lot of personnel who are overseas - and we have personal contacts that are experiencing this right now - are having difficulties bringing family members back or sending family members back from Europe to the United States. We have three families in particular that are experiencing this right now. They are attempting to send their wives and children out of Europe back into the continental United States and the military will not do it, will not send them. They have not released the dependents, let alone the husband. This is interesting considering that we are not at war and we have no threat of war on the horizon that anybody could pick out, short of a few policing actions that are supposed to be very minor. The amount of force facing the American people right now is approximately the equivalent to several heavy infantry divisions with a couple of mixed mechanised divisions combined. We're looking at a little over 300,000 personnel that we could verify or that we could at least identify in different parts of the country. These forces include FINCEN elements through Montana, northern California, southern California, central Texas, the northern part of North Carolina, Fort Drum, the eastern seaboard including elements that are now stationed around the capitol of the United Sates, Washington DC. There are five FINCEN companies deployed there. I will mention this, that we put a great deal of heat on these people since we've begun to identify them. How many people have seen a newsclip every night when they watch the media, somebody takes one of those ski masks and puts it over their head and busts into somebody's home? Sixty minutes did a little piece on this just the other night, but it's what we've been talking about for a long time. Who is under the ski mask? If you're wearing a ski mask, how do you know who these people are? In fact, how do you even know that they're even law enforcement agents? Anybody can wear a uniform, and a ski mask hides the identity especially when nobody says anything. And even if they do, how could most people be sure? A ski mask does for a person at 3 in the afternoon what the KGB did at 12 midnight and 3 in the morning with a knock on the door. It is called terror. And the fact that we would allow that to happen in the United States is a disgrace to our country and a disgrace to our Constitution. I'll tell you one thing right now, when I was in the military we were trained to shoot people with ski masks on. We called them terrorists, bank robbers, you know, criminals. Only in this case now I guess they're hired by the government. It is very important to understand this because we cannot be lackadaisical in understanding the threat. They have progressively through gradualism gotten everybody in this mindset that this is an acceptable situation. It is not. It cannot be allowed. it cannot be allowed to continue. If these forces, for instance, are on the up and up, why not bring them into the light? Why conceal their activities? Why shroud them in darkness? Why shroud them in chaos? On the other hand , maybe we want a little chaos. Remember crisis management? Mr Kissinger brought this up first. Crisis management is a good thing. You're hearing it in the news, constantly, aren't we? Crisis management, crisis in Russia, crisis overseas, crisis in New York. With something like this of course, you create the problem, you demonstrate an answer and you execute the solution. But you've created all three. We're looking at the same thing right now here.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:17 pm | #

Who are the FEMA, the MJTF and FINCEN? - An insider reveals a taste of things to come.
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Now, UN (United Nations) combat forces - I'm going to interject these people real quick because all these people interlock and overlap - United Nations combat forces include those that are co-operating with FINCEN at this time in Montana, the elements that are in California - there were 21,000 of them identified south of Los Angeles and are probably deployed north-north-east of Los Angeles in Sacramento basin. The elements were located in Texas have shifted and by all indications are probably spread out through a series of garrisons. The Ohio valley, starting in the Cincinnati area and moving north-north-west, has forces deployed there. We know that these elements are also located at Fort Achuka, there are some in Fort Benning, Georgia. We know that an element was also located at Fort Drum. By the way, our processing center for detainees in the western half of the United States is Oklahoma city. We do not know what the location is for the eastern seaboard at this time; however, by all indications Fort Drum will be the control point for processing individuals to detention facilities on the eastern half of the United States east of the Mississippi. If there are any problems, what I would recommend for a lot of people that are concerned about this is that we observe the air, not the ground. However, I will say this: in Cleveland, for instance, we have friends and patriots who have photographed UN armour being transported by rail from east to west. Many of the people that have been in contact so far are both intelligence analysts or worked as intelligence analysts and counter-intelligence sergeants. They are experienced in observation and they know what they're doing. Because of this, we can rely upon their first-hand information. Most of the time, though, you are seeing FINCEN forces utilising rotary wing aircraft assets. Back in the early part of 1990, approximately 3,000 rotary aircraft were withdrawn from our strategic reserve or guard, these came from the mothball fleet. These units were transferred to FINCEN and painted in flat black, not flat green and not camouflaged green. These aircraft are in flat black. They bear no markings or identification to determine whether they are American or foreign national assets, no longer in the hands of the United States Air Force. We do supply and support them with your tax dollars but we do not control them completely now. FINCEN forces utilising these rotary assets have both heavylift aircraft and conventional attack aircraft. the heavy aircraft which may have been experienced in the area where I am speaking right now are the Chinook CH-47. It has a rotor front and rear and can carry up to 64 personnel in one lift. The first mission for FINCEN helicopter and support aircraft is to go in and actually control ground operations. They do not have to follow roads. They are not concerned with road blocks, obstructions, infrastructure damages etc. They can drop into an area and assert military forces, utilise those military forces to the best of their ability and, if they're needed somewhere else, lift and move them again. The second mission for these aircraft, though, is very important. Because of the detention camp mechanism that exists, they do not feel that it will be safe to transfer prisoners on the ground. That's why a large preponderance of the aircraft that they've received are heavy-lift aircraft capable of moving large numbers of people at once. Because of this, the Chinook's mission will be to transfer from pick-up points personnel who have been acquired and are put in temporary holding sites outside of each municipality. Here in the city where we are standing right now, somewhere in this vicinity in close proximity, there is a holding area; that is also what we call a POL point, petroleum, oil and lubricant point. These operations will bring the people by ground vehicle to this temporary detention site. They will never hit the ground again until they reach the detention facility itself. They will be picked up by the rotary wing aircraft, flown directly to the primary detention site that is closest or to a sorting facility where it will be determined whether they are a high threat or a low threat.

Remember MJTF police: their mission is separation and categorisation of men, women and children. They will not take some individuals - it's easier just to take the whole family if you feel its a threat. And this is their mission. Once they transfer to the sorting facility, families or individuals will be separated and then sent to primary holding areas. I guarantee that prior service/military personnel, patriots and individuals who possess firearms will not be released. That's why there are so many facilities. A good example of holding areas or of detention sites that we know of that are first-line pick-up points is Brighton Airport near Brighton, which is still a federally funded facility even though it's been rented out. It originally was an Army Air Corps aviation facility. The pick-up site for Ann Arbor is located due east of Ann Arbor on Liberty Road between Parker and Zeeb. We know that, for instance, the one near Jackson is located at the Jackson airport and is predesignated. Each metropolitan area has a pick-up site that has already been predetermined, every area. All you need to do is start to look and weedle your way into the FEMA mechanism. There is that evil word, FEMA - Federal Emergency Management Agency. Now we talked about this at the last meeting where I was talking to a large group of people, and this was before the articles started to come out through the federal papers about FEMA's activities throughout the United States in the eighties. FEMA is not a Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA is the secret government, legally. It's funded, made and supported through monetary expenditures designated through the Department of Defense, and also normal budgeting is taking place every year without government. FEMA has approximately 3,600 employees and yet, of the 3,600 employees, only about 59 to 63 actually deal with emergency management such as storms, disasters, hurricanes or man-made catastrophes such as nuclear attack. If only 60 of them are doing this. let me ask you one very basic question. What do the other 3,600 do? Well, their mission is to manage the system after they've taken it over. They utilise black budget or black bag funding. Black bag funding is covert operation funds authorised that cannot be challenged by public agencies or entities. They've been doing this for 13 years. Remember that FEMA was created originally by Zbigniew Brzezinski. Zbigniew Brzezinski worked for Jimmy Carter. However, after Ronald Reagan came into power, Zbigniew stayed over to complete operations and deployment of FEMA inside the United States. The issues of guns and drugs, drugs and guns came about approximately four years ago. The objective behind that was to create an environment or create a situation that these people could use. Before that it was internal economic catastrophe that was the mission of FEMA, to create Rex 84, Rex 85. Now the Rex series of programmes started up in 1981, and originally I participated in a programme that set up a series of actions which allowed for us, for instance, to surrender 50% of Florida. We weren't going to stop the Russians until they got to Orlando. We used to jokingly call it the Disney line. And we weren't going to make any attempt to get it back either. If you look at the globalist map though, and if you look at the final solution through the UN Charter, we lose a good portion of the United States. The way the nation is divided up, the United States of America will cease to exist. Right now we are very close to them accomplishing what they want, very close. And I cannot emphasise that enough. With most of these actions, they have always looked at the prospect of disarming the American people first. It is the most important issue that we should concern ourselves with at this time.
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Anyway, what I'd like to get into next are activities and future proposed actions inside the United States by a variety of organisations including the MJTF police, FINCEN and UN battle groups that will be deployed against the American people. First of all, we'll go back to early 1989 when originally, in smoke-filled rooms behind closed doors, some committee of political monkeys decided that it was time to go after the weapons inside the United States. In doing so, what they did is decide to come up with a programme called guns, drugs, drugs, guns. If you have a gun, you must be a drug dealer. This was everybody, private firearms owners, skeet shooters, whatever. Our response as law-abiding American citizens was supposed to be "Oh, God, take my guns, I'm not a drug dealer, oh please". Only unfortunately, what happened as far as the government is concerned, is the American people started to rearm themselves very quickly. We surveyed a lot of different shows throughout the United States, in the Midwest specifically. In fact, in some cases we covered three different cities in two different states within a 10-hour period. And what we saw wasn't people trying to get rid of their weapons; in fact that wasn't the case at all. You notice people weren't selling anything and were buying more. It was shoulder to shoulder, elbow to elbow, rear end to front, and heel to toe, and everybody was bringing everybody's uncle in to buy weapons, munitions, equipment. And we saw this from Kentucky and Tennessee to Pennsylvania to New Jersey to Michigan, Indiana, Illinois. The effect that their guns, drugs, drugs, guns programme had is that the patriots out there started to talk to people and said, "See, this is what we told you was going to happen". And after surveying a few shows I'm sure that the intelligence information coming back through the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms people and also from other agencies that were monitoring the gun shows that the result was not exactly what they wanted either. More ammunition and weapons passed through the FFL dealers and through firearms sellers at gun shows in the three months of 1990 than in the last 15 years prior to that, all sales combined. In some cases over a million rounds of ammunition were sold off of ammunition dealers tables. Thousands of conventional firearms, virtually hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars worth of equipment such as field gear, boots, uniforms, medical support items, these were all going out and disappearing. It used to be when Fred Schmidlap and Jim and myself would go over to the gun show; we'd go in and, well, let's go buy something. We'd go buy it, we'd take it home, fire it up a little bit; we thought it was neat but it was that vogue toy for the month. We got done with it we might take it back in, we'd sell it and we'd go buy something else. There was a used firearms market. Today, there is no used firearms market. There is a reason for that. Everything that is in the hands of the people is being absorbed. This is happening right now again. It's as if somebody cut an artery and the weapons are just gushing out. In fact, the people cannot keep up with demand enough.

Now because of this, they are getting a tad concerned again. The effect of the guns, drugs, drugs, guns campaign should have been for people to just hand things over or try to dispose of the weapons because they were fearful of being prosecuted by the government. When in 1990 it was realised that they weren't exactly going to accomplish their original mission, they had to change their timetable a little we think. By the third month it was realised that the militia forces, civilian arms were bludgeoning it at a massive proportion. The structured forces that were inside that were deployed, including Operation Achilles which we mentioned before, began to reduce their actions because of notoriety and the fact that they were seeing more aggressive stances on the part of the population that they were attacking. Unfortunately, like cockroaches, you can spray and they keep coming back. So by late 1992 the latest guns, drugs, drugs, guns campaign escalated with a variety of other actions overlapping. It's a threat to your children. Well, not if you train your children properly. It's a threat to society. Well this society isn't monarchal England, it isn't pharaonic Egypt, and we most certainly aren't the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Because of that we trust our people with firearms; in fact, we are the government, therefore we're the one who should have firearms. I think everybody forgets that. We, the people. We have an obligation and a responsibility. Now during this time, from late 1992 to the early part of 1993 we've seen a series of other actions take place in which firearms confiscations, house-to-house, door-to-door, have taken place. Operation Clean Sweep in Chicago, Operation Achilles II in Cleveland, and a series of actions that took place after the Los Angeles riots, not against the street gangs, but against the citizens who defended their homes and their businesses. Remember the Koreans who were on top of their roofs? Strangely enough the government used the videotapes that were made to track down these homeowners and they are now being prosecuted for using their weapons to defend themselves. And this is an ongoing programme. You're not seeing this in the general media because it wouldn't exactly bode well with the rest of us. Because of this it is realised they're going to have intensify, and in fact heavily intensify, their campaign. During the earlier phases, for instance in Chicago, the black helicopter missions that we were talking about in the early hour were taking place extensively. We have individuals who were in high-rises who were actually above helicopters flying between the high-rises in Chicago, in the windy city. These operations culminated in a final activity which lasted approximately one week in which they blocked off neighbourhoods, went building to building and house to house, entered forcibly if necessary and prosecuted the owners of any firearms, ammunition or gun parts found. This was Operation Clean Sweep. In Cleveland an activity which was covered only by national public radio involved elements of the MJTF police and probable FINCEN forces. The Ohio guard was mobilised from several different areas in the state, transferred to an area outside the Cleveland airport where a mount area - that's an urban warfare training area - was set up with three neighbourhoods. The units that were brought in were trained in house-to-house search and seizure and securing a neighbourhood. They then went into the first training neighbourhood, went house to house, secured the neighbourhood and then attacked a second neighbourhood. Once they had secured the second neighbourhood they had to hold the first two and went to get a third neighbourhood. After these elements were trained and passed through this mechanism, they were transferred to different parts of Cleveland where they were actually deployed against the population.

This happened about the same time that the Weaver incident took place in Idaho. It was almost simultaneous. In fact, a series of actions both in Cleveland and one here in Michigan took place either during or shortly after the Weaver incident. Now in Cleveland this received media coverage. In some parts of Ohio this received media coverage. But it received no national media attention except for one place, national public radio, who thought that this was the next best thing to sliced white bread - that they had violated people's homes, that they had gone into different parts of the city and that they had done this. The Waco situation, which was typical of a lot of what we're going to be seeing in the future - although I think you're going to see even more ham-handedness - involved a 100-130 man assault company of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, probably under MJTF authority again. It should be understood that as of March 1989, the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) forces were divided up into these assault companies. Each platoon consists of 40 men armed with M16 A2 rifle, the AR15 9mm conversion, or the M79 grenade launcher. It is now known that these forces also include the M60 machine gun which is an infantry battle weapon now being deployed with policing agencies - you know like they have in Russia. It was interesting to note that this assault company in Texas was identical to the type of forces that were used during Operation Achilles in the Ohio Valley coming up into Michigan. The forces are in all-black BDU uniform. They wear the black pascat armour, the black pascat helmet which looks quite like the German. They are armed, equipped and maintained through DoD resources. So many of the weapons that they are provided with are actually provided by our military. In many cases Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the FBI, DEA are now receiving training both at Quantico and many of them have gone through the US Ranger School. That's rather exotic training for people who are supposed to be police officers in the United States. On the other hand, if you again need thugs, you've got to send them some place where they can learn to be fairly efficient thugs. Many of the people that we have had that went through ranger school in the last year said that up to 50% of their company were made up of Federal Bureau of Investigation people and individuals who were involved with Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms or the Drug Enforcement Agency. Now DEA, by the way, has what we call CLET units. CLET units are directly under the control of the Treasury and/or can be accessed by the MJTF police or FINCEN. CLET are armed identically to the ATF combat elements and are deployed throughout the United States and can be used overseas.
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F.E.M.A. - It is the most powerful organisation in the United States and most people don't even know it exists!
FEMA is not a Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA is the secret government, legally. It's funded , made and supported through monetary expenditures designated through the Department of Defence.
http://home.swipnet.se/allez/ Loc...cret_police.htm
By Linda Thompson.
FEMA stands for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. It isn't an elected body, it has a quasi-secret budget in the billions of dollars, and it has more power than the President of the United States and most people don't even know it exists! It was originally created to ensure the survival of the US government in the event of a nuclear attack. It was also provided the task of being a federal co-ordinating body during times of domestic disasters, such as earthquakes and hurricanes.. But it wasn't created under constitutional law or an act of Congress; it was created by EXECUTIVE ORDER. There was an act, called the Emergency Management Act, that was passed in 1935. This act says that the President can issue executive orders in times of national emergency. Since that time, we have always had a declared state of "National Emergency" in the United States, even though you didn't know it. You can find these "declarations of National Emergency" in the Combined Federal Register and the records of Congress. We are in one right now. Many executive orders have been issued since them. The order enacting FEMA is one of them. Since only Congress has the authority to appropriate funds, the executive order creating this agency is unconstitutional or, at best, it should have remained unfunded.

An executive order, whether constitutional or not, becomes effective upon publication in the Federal Register. Congress is bypassed. General Richard Secord and Lt. Col. Oliver North who orchestrated the Iran-Contra operation that smuggled in weapons and cocaine to this country, using our CIA and US Air Force to do it, were in charge of FEMA for several years during which it grew into the monster it is today. Some of the black helicopter traffic reported throughout the United States are flown by FEMA personnel. FEMA has been given responsibility for many new disasters in addition to floods, hurricanes, and earthquakes, including urban forest fires, home heating emergencies, refugee situations, urban riots, and emergency planing for nuclear and toxic incidences. In the West, FEMA works "in conjunction with" the 6th Army. FEMA has only spent about 6% of its budget on national emergencies. The bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to "assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic" and to build prisons and "holding facilities" under the designation of "refugee facilities" (which have never been used for holding refugees of any sort).

Executive Order #12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic surveillance of US citizens and restrict freedom of movement within the United States, granting to the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard may be used to seal all borders and take control of US air space and all ports of entry.

The following orders are written but not implemented and could be implemented at any time, suspending the Constitution of the United States using FEMA to do it:
Executive Order #10990 - allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and to control all highways and seaports.
Executive Order #10995 - allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
Executive Order #10997 - allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuel and minerals.
Executive Order #10998 - allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
Executive Order #11000 - allows the government to mobilise civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
Executive Order #11001 - allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions
Executive Order #11002 - designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
Executive Order #11003 - allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
Executive Order #11004 - allows the housing and finance authorities to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned and establish new areas for populations.
Executive Order #11005 - allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
Executive Order #11051 - specifies the responsibilities of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorisation to put all executive orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
Executive Order #11310 - grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in executive orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions and to advise and assist the President.
Executive Order #11049 - assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21operative issued over a 15 year period.
Executive Order #11921 - allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in US financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
Extracted from a transcript of a speech given in June 1993. .Books, audio and video tapes on this sort of material are available from TRAX 332 W. Martin Lane, Murray, Utah, 84107, USA. Phone (801) 262 3601
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:16 pm | #

Hey fluid, what was that you said about no "jack-booted thugs" breaking into citizen homes and taking their belongings and their liberty? Does this count?
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http://www.digitaljournal.com/ ar...pside_Down_Flag
N.C. Couple Arrested Over Upside Down Flag

http://www.greenstateproject.com...year-old-woman/
A 92-year-old Woman is dead.
Was it the right address? Police said yes.
All Police officers were convicted for multiple crimes. They should have been tried for Murder.

http://la.indymedia.org/news/200...6/11/ 187865.php
Feldman was awarded $75,000 by the City of Santa Monica last year.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/ na...5647903672.html
POLICE and security agencies will be given unprecedented "sneak and peek" powers to search people's homes and computers — without court approval

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/ new...constitutio.php
Appeals Court Rules FBI Violated Constitution During Jefferson Raid

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All I can say, This punk needs to do his home work before he comes to a site of educated people and spews his bullshit.
He is either an idiot or a shill.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:15 pm | #

Congress may not have passed it; however, they have allowed it: I would say that this order violate I, IV, & V. But I will not claim to be a scholar of our constitution. I will, however, say that this shit stinks...all of it. Just remember everything Hitler did was legal! Once again I must ask you fluid, do you like the state of things? DO you think the process is working?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56782
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...s/r...20070717- 3.html
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:05 pm | #
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They have passed it, some of the laws limiting free speech:

Patriot Act
Military Commissions Act
New and old FISA agreements
Anything to do with FCC
NAFTA

Read the bills, they either snuff out/restrict/supress free speech.

Picking up someone off the street, flying them in a CIA plane to a secret prison in Poland for 5 years restricts their free speech and they are not a "private entity." They are a human being granted inalienable rights and human rights.

Do not let them trick you into thinking anything they are doing as being legal. It is being done secretly, then condescendingly and Pompously [like, "see what we can do with you?"].

IT IS ALL STILL ILLEGAL.

It is not enforced by the rule of law but by the rule of POLICE POWER.

We are being conned big time.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:13 pm | #

The elites truly love our children. They want to eat them up and love them to death.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:58 pm | #

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I cannot take anymore!
BTW: have you seen fluid around before?
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:06 pm | #

Please indicate where Congress passed a law or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...which is a required element.

You do know the First Amendment doesn't apply to private entities, don't you, Mr. Constitution man?

Off to a baseball game, do take care of yourself...in all regards.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:53 pm | #

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Congress may not have passed it; however, they have allowed it: I would say that this order violate I, IV, & V. But I will not claim to be a scholar of our constitution. I will, however, say that this shit stinks...all of it. Just remember everything Hitler did was legal! Once again I must ask you fluid, do you like the state of things? DO you think the process is working?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56782
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20070717- 3.html
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:05 pm | #

BUSH = CLINTON

CLINTON = BUSH

Spibooks: COMPROMISED:
Clinton, Bush, And The CIA
by John ...This Arkansas-CIA connection became Clinton’s darkest secret – a secret he shared by then Vice-President Bush, who himself was compromised by his ...
http://www.spibooks.com/ merchant...Code=1561712493 - 40k - Cached - Similar pages

The Mena Arkansas Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Drug ConnectionThe training of pilots, loading of weapons, drugs at Mena Arkansas. Who was the governor of Arkansas at the time and who was our Presidents?
http://www.dldewey.com/columns/menaf.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

MENAIn 1996, Pat released Obstruction of Justice: The Mena Connection, which tells the story and ... Clinton and Bush - Co-accomplices in CIA Drug Industry ...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.co.../MENA/ mena.html - 52k - Cached - Similar pages

Scoop: Sam Smith: The Bush Clinton NexusIt reminded me of the strange Bush and Clinton connection all over again." Later, D'Amato said to Brown, "C'mon, L. D., let's go take a leak. ...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/H...0502/ S00155.htm - 45k - Cached - Similar pages

BILL CLINTON and CIA DRUGS for GUNS, and IRAN/CONTRA, NCOICARKANSAS GOVERNOR BILL CLINTON PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH CIA DRUGS FOR GUNS CONNECTION. By Paul DeRienzo. An independent group of researchers in Arkansas are ...
http://www.ncoic.com/clinton.htm - 13k - Cached - Similar pages

The Nixon-Clinton ConnectionTHE NIXON-CLINTON CONNECTION Stuart K. Hayashi ... Clinton took office after George Bush, who is a wrinkled, grumpy old man. In Bush's time, the economy was ...
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBe...on- clinton.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
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Breaking Wire-Clinton - Bush Connection To Warrantless Wiretapping And The CIA Exposed Introduction To Clinton, Bush Connection To Warrantless Wiretapping And The CIA ...
http://www.newstimedaily.com/ Pag...tonbushcia.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages

Clinton White House Saw Saddam-Osama ConnectionIn retaliation, Bill Clinton used an Iraq-al-Qaida connection, Hayes said, ... Richard Clarke, the counterterrorism czar for both Clinton and Bush who, ...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/...11/ 154020.shtml - 34k - Cached - Similar pages

Bush Family Nazi Connection Clear evidence that the Bush family has ties to Hitler ...
http://www.youtube.com/?v=RnAUQeHykXY
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:04 pm | #

WELCOME TO THE UNHACKABLE NATIONAL ID TECHNOLOGY
RFID Hack Could Allow Retail FraudA German consultant has released a tool that its creator says will allow modifications of the code stored within RFID tags, theoretically allowing consumers ...
http://www.eweek.com/article2/ 0,...,1628696,00.asp
Exxon Mobile SpeedPass Hack via RFIDTired of paying for gas Are you a geek with a laptop, knowledge of the Texas Instruments RFID spec and live near an Exxon Mobile gas station equipped with ...
http://www.marketingshift.com/2005/ 1/exxon-mobile-speedpass-hack-via-rfid.cfm
Wired 14.05: The RFID Hacking UndergroundThey can steal your smartcard, lift your passport, jack your car, even clone the chip in your arm. And you won't feel a thing. 5 tales from the RFID-hacking ...
http://www.wired.com/wired/archi...14.05/ rfid.html
Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise. - Engadgetas far as a retailer not takeing numbers, there are plenty of places that would. the person that is hacking rfid for peoples information is not going to go ...
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/ researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/ - 128k
rfid music player - Hack a DayFiled under: misc hacks, portable audio hacks. sid rfid. don't take off your tinfoil hats quite yet, but just when you thought rfid tags were all about the ...
http://www.hackaday.com/2005/03/...d-music-player/ - 28k - Jun 24, 2007
rfid dartmail - Hack a DayThe head of the Dart contains an RFID tag. By waving the tag over the reader, the 'shooter' can attach a handle to any electronic file (located in a shared ...
http://www.hackaday.com/2005/02/.../rfid-dartmail/ - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
The RFID Weblog: Software to Hack RFID TagsImplementation and Application of RFID technology.
http://www.rfid-weblog.com/ 50226...k_rfid_tags.php - 106k
RFID Hack Tool Released at Blackhat--Ridge RFID Hack Could Allow Retail Fraud By Mark Hachman July 29, 2004 LAS VEGAS-A German consultant has released a tool that its creator says will allow ...
http://www.interesting-people.or...8/ msg00012.html
Digg - Free Gas! Just hack RFIDJust hack RFID. You can Hack a gasoline speed pass in 15 minutes! Submitted:: 1 year 90 days ago; Submitter:: All4not All4not (news: submissions, diggs, ...
http://digg.com/security/ Free_Ga..._Just_hack_RFID
Photo: Prying open an ePassport | CNET News.comLukas Grunwald, a researcher at DN-Systems attending the Defcon hacker convention in Las Vegas, demonstrates how RFID-equipped cards can be read with a ...
http://news.com.com/2300-1029_3-..._3- 6102766.html
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All of our soldiers now use RFID Tags on their body armor, weapons, Identification, almost every standard issue. How do you think the enemy (directed by Dick Cheney), knows exactly where our kids are? The RFID in the military is one of the greatest national security threats around. Soon we will all carry this easily fraudable units. It will have data on our children such as pictures and locations so that whenever an elite gets an urge, under executive order subheading: "By Any Means Necessary," they can be targteted. Even just to extend the war or stop them from going to the press like Pat Tillman.

For more on how elites "pick" the abductable child before they are abducted using creative surveillance [Think of it as the Beta Version of RFID] read the Franklin Cover-Up or watch Conspiracy of Silence.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...110250157218995
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Con...racy_of_Silence
http://www.rense.com/general61/ a...onspiracyof.htm
http://www.franklincase.org/silence.htm
http://www.thelawparty.com/Frank...linCover- up.htm
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ f...upexcerpt.shtml
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...4johndecamp.htm
http://www.franklincase.org/

The elites truly love our children. They want to eat them up and love them to death.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:58 pm | #

Welcome to the Free America, ran by the Zionist.
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 5:51 pm | #

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Mny I speak to refuse to hear. They scofff. They rationalize. They deny, deny, deny; because their mental life is all a lie. The truth is to heay a burden fr many of our people...they are still our people. They need to be treated as innocents and protected.....
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 5:56 pm | #

The Satanic Rothschild Dynasty - Financial Wizzards and Wealthy Cults
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63628/...d-Wealthy- Cults
Mullins - The World Order - A Study in the Hegemony of Parasitism (1985)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63847/...Parasitism- 1985
Marrs - Rule by Secrecy - The Hidden History That Connects The Trilateral Commission, The Freemasons
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63846/...t-Pyramids- 2000
Kundalini - Preventing the Apocalypse - Sam Fryman
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63845/...ypse-Sam- Fryman
Icke - Children of the Matrix - How an Interdimensional Race has Controlled the World for Thousands
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63841/...Still-Does- 2001
Guillen - The Vatican's Mafia (ex-Monsignor exposes corruption inside Vatican) (2003)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63840/...de-Vatican- 2003
Bernays - Propaganda (how the media molds your mind) (1928 )
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63837/...-your-mind- 1928
100 Ways to Disappear and Live Free
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63836/...r-and-Live- Free
KAP, Quantum Gravity, Generalized Theory of Gravitation, and Superstring Theory
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63835/...sed- Unification
Edgar Cayce, The Children Of The Law Of One And The Lost Teachings Of Atlantis - By Jon Peniel
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63834/...s-By-Jon- Peniel
lluminati - Mind Control (DID-MPD child abuse torture satanism lsd cia ufo 748pg)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63832/...d-cia-ufo- 748pg
The Power of Now - A Guide to Spiritual Enlightment by Eckhart Tolle
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63831/...y-Eckhart- Tolle
Confessions of an Economic Hitman-John Perkins
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19489/...manJohn- Perkins
Published in 1776, Common Sense challenged the authority of the British government and the royal monarchy. The plain language that Paine used spoke to the common people of America and was the first work to openly ask for independence from Great Britain.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/99317/...17/Common- Sense
Thomas Paine Origin of Freemasonry 1818
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13184/...-of- Freemasonry
General Relativity by Albert Einstein:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/127168...ral- Relativityy
Albert Einstein - Contemplating the cosmos:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/103152...ting-the- cosmos
Albert Einstein - The World As I See It
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48868/...rld-As-I-See- It
Einstein & Faith
http://www.scribd.com/doc/25697/.../Einstein- Faith
Banned Books:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/45597/...97/Banned- Books
George Van Tassel - The Council Of Seven Lights
http://www.scribd.com/doc/39229/...Of-Seven- Lights
Serpent Code
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80515/...15/Serpent- Code
Spirals symbols and snakes - Finding clues to our serpent worshipping past
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80516/...bols-and- snakes
Fritz Springmeier - Bloodlines Of The Illuminati (1995)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63614/...Illuminati- 1995
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:56 pm | #

Got that 50 sighted in at 1.5 yet??
Henry Bowman | 07.24.07 - 10:49 pm | #
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We damn well might need it.
If they keep fucking with Ron Paul.
I am spreading the word about Ron Paul.
And I donated $1000.00 to his campaign.
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 5:54 pm | #

Stop debating the constitution with me with false arguments. You are insulting both of our intelligence levels by doing so.
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You're alright sane. You're allllllright. Maybe you should take a Constitutional Law class and really learn something. It sounds like you could use it. Just a thought/suggestion.

Oh, by the way, you do know the First Amendment doesn't apply to private entities don't you? Bear in mind I was replying SPECIFICALLY to this quotation of yours, and nothing more:

"There are many new viewers on thread 60 looking for info on Ron Paul because of the ne article on PP. So let's not bring up old shit, but give them the information on Ron and act as if we were presenting evidence to the founding fathers to let them decise whether or not there is a media blackout thus a violation of the constitution's first amendment"

Please indicate where Congress passed a law or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...which is a required element.

You do know the First Amendment doesn't apply to private entities, don't you, Mr. Constitution man?

Off to a baseball game, do take care of yourself...in all regards.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:53 pm | #

By the way, I have to go to a baseball game.** Did you copy that Ron? I have to go to a baseball game. I will not be available to respond to your posts for several hours. Did you copy that Ron? I WILL NOT BE HERE AND I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO REPSOND TO YOUR POSTS for several hours, possibly into tomorrow.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:41 pm | #

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Thanks for the explanation:
It was the lead story on HuffPo (not my favorite source).
Headline:
Bush Admin On The Hunt: FBI Raided Fmr DOJ Lawyer's Home In Search For Wiretapping Leaker
(still leading as of now)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
have fun at the game....
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 5:52 pm | #

Over 100 million are awake but silenced through blackouts/control/media manipulation:
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You can say that again, and again.
In a Police State, the media is controlled.
Welcome to the Free America, ran by the Zionist.
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 5:51 pm | #

>>DOES BLOWBACK EXIST?

BlowbackTerrorism by definition strikes at the innocent in order to draw attention to the sins ... "Blowback" is a CIA term first used in March 1954 in a recently ...
http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...0011015/ johnson - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
YouTube - Blowback definitionFormer cia agent describes the meaning of Blowback. ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...h? v=1q8GA4ja2Y0
Central Intelligence Agency: Definition and Much More from Answers.comThe Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was created in 1947 with the passage ...... Blowback: America's recruitment of Nazis and its effects on the Cold War. ...
http://www.answers.com/topic/cen...lligence- agency - 376k - Cached - Similar pages
Blowback Blowback The Costs and Consequences of American EmpireBlowback from this led to a Marxist guerrilla insurgency in the 1980s and so to CIA- and Pentagon-supported genocide against Mayan peasants. ...
http:// www.thirdworldtraveler.co...owback_BCJ.html - 38k - Cached - Similar pages
The American Empire ProjectIn its most rigorous definition, blowback does not mean mere reactions to ... and ‘assets’ and the like—the CIA warns of the possibilities of ‘blowback. ...
http:// www.americanempireproject...ISBN=0805075593 - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
Blowback by Chalmers JohnsonMany see the 9/11 attacks on the United States as blowback from CIA training and support of the muhajadeen ... Further definition of 'Blowback' and examples ...
http://www.jjraymond.com/books/n...n/ blowback.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages
World Prout Assembly: The Torture Policy BlowbackBy strict definition, shall we have to declare that each small family unit is a ... But no accountability was demanded of the CIA, private contractors, ...
http:// www.worldproutassembly.or...orture_pol.html - 65k - Cached - Similar pages
Blowback - a work in progress by Mark WillisThe term "blowback" originated inside the C.I.A. as a euphemism for the unexpected consequences of geopolitical events in which the C.I.A. had a hand. ...
http://www.wright.edu/~mark.will...e/ blowback.html - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
The Public Eye : Website of Political Research Associates-Blowback ...The first major CIA operation in the post war world was in Iran in 1953. .... and the definition of terrorism as a crime against humanity.” ...
http://www.publiceye.org/frontpa...11/ burbach.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:49 pm | #

Holding my breath.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:32 pm | #

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Oh so now I understand why you have failed to address the direct questions I have asked. I think that persons who break the "law" will suffer greatly and in dramatic fashion; however, we cannot ignore, norshould we, the illegal search and seizures and or possible disapearing of folks and their personal effects. I hope that you will take the time to read and answer the questions I have put to you in the previous two posts.
Thanks
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 5:49 pm | #

Hey fluid, what was that you said about no "jack-booted thugs" breaking into citizen homes and taking their belongings and their liberty? Does this count?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 3:19 pm | #
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A soldier raped and killed a girl while serving in Iraq. He was appropriately punished (except for the possible parole after 10 years). How is that indicative of a police state, which I clearly indicated with "jack-booted thugs". Bad people do bad things. It happens.
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Hmmmm. Maybe you weren't referencing the Iraqi soldier. I just noticed this "Page not found
Our web servers cannot find the page or file you asked for. The link you followed may be broken or expired." is returned from your link. The "soldier" story was the first one listed so I thought that was your intended target.

But perhaps you intended to link to a story of how a police officer maybe did the same thing as the soldier, or worse. It still doesn't work. Demonstrate that such an example is widespread and common. Demonstrate that the officer involved was not punished. Demonstrate how this wasn't just a bad person (or a good person) doing a bad thing; show me he was ordered to do it by his superiors as part of the police state/martial law plan. Thank you in advance.

By the way, I have to go to a baseball game.** Did you copy that Ron? I have to go to a baseball game. I will not be available to respond to your posts for several hours. Did you copy that Ron? I WILL NOT BE HERE AND I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO REPSOND TO YOUR POSTS for several hours, possibly into tomorrow.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:41 pm | #

I can tell you feel the urgency as well. I am also shocked that, it seems like, over 85% of Americans are absolutely clueless................NO IDEA!!

Peace | 08.05.07 - 5:26 pm | #
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On the contrary, latest poll:

People who want a 3rd party - 87%

Over 100 million are awake but silenced through blackouts/control/media manipulation:

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Bernays Propaganda 1928:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63837/...-your-mind- 1928
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Interesting articles about media strategy and the iraq war:
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=34709
http://www.globalissues.org/Huma...ia/ Military.asp
http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues...2002Q4/ war.html
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Great videos on the issue of Media Control of Political Issues:

Spin - Brian Singer 1992
http://video.google.com/ videopla...181953466797353

Orwell Rolls In His Grave
http://video.google.com/ videopla...655342219448521

Network
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M...h? v=MTN3s2iVKKI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h?v=dib2- HBsF08

CBC - The Fifth Estate : The Lies That Led To War
http://video.google.com/ videopla...535985718796639
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CFR / NAU & 2008 Presidential Candidates

Save America from the CFR Takeover!
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"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton

"Once the ruling members of the CFR shadow government have decided that the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of (the) CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy, and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition."
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government."
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
http://www.fdrs.org/cfr_quotes.html
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:40 pm | #

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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First Amendment protects the right to a free press. Take a look at what it takes to create a nework/cable/satellite TV show and you will see the violation with your own eyes. This is besides the targeted journalists that Cheney kills ewith executive order "By Any Means Necessary." Journalists like Daniel Pearl that was beheaded in a Neo-Con Snuff Film.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:20 pm | #
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Daniel Pearl was not a "private entity" when Cheney gave the execution orders, same with Pat Tillman. And either is any other American citizen that is denied the freedom to distribute media such as print/airwaves/satellite/cable due to artificially influenced economic barriers.

Stop debating the constitution with me with false arguments. You are insulting both of our intelligence levels by doing so. Please debate it if you wish regarding sound methods and we may be able to see clearly how to restore this beautiful republic.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:38 pm | #

I can tell you feel the urgency as well. I am also shocked that, it seems like, over 85% of Americans are absolutely clueless................NO IDEA!!

Peace | 08.05.07 - 5:26 pm | #

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Wait a minute, what to those famous (infamous?) polls that indicated 84% believe the government was reponsible for 9/11? How did you calculate your 85% figures? Could you illustrate please?

Geez, this is fucked, a done deal. Just a matter of time now.

Peace | 08.05.07 - 5:26 pm | #
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Holding my breath.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:32 pm | #

>>>KING BUSH UPSET THAT PEOPLE NO LONGER BELIEVE HIS LIES ABOUT AMNESTY AND RFID
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Imperial President Visits Imperious Senate to Promote Intemperate - PR Newswire (press release), NY
http://sev.prnewswire.com/govern...12062007- 1.html
The president met today with Republican legislators in an effort to pressure them into reviving a bill that would grant amnesty to 12 million or more ...
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American Daily Don’t Resurrect the Amnesty Bill Kaye Grogan - Opinion Editorials, VA
http:// www.opinioneditorials.com...n_20070614.html
There is no way on God’s green earth that the majority of the American people are going to believe the pro-amnesty group in Washington, DC--( mainly ...
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Angus Reid Global Monitor Spinning the immigration pole - Washington Times, DC
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/2...11527- 4918r.htm
Com, Mr. Medved launched into a searing attack on "hysterical" denunciations of amnesty on talk radio, and erroneously asserted that under the Senate bill ...
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Family Security Matters Senate Supporters Still Vow to Push Amnesty Bill Through - Family Security Matters, NJ - Jun 13, 2007
http://www.familysecuritymatters....php? id=1054218
The new amnesty bill—still supported by the power hungry Democrats and RINOs—is still being pushed. These “I deserve to be rich and powerful and the hell ...
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Immigration bill leads to breakdown of US - The Citizen.com, GE
http://www.thecitizen.com/node/17677
Everybody I know is prepared to even vote for a Democrat rather than reelect those of you who vote for this amnesty bill. You’ve squandered years of ...
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Amnesty opponents are not un-American - Small Gov Times, VA
http://www.smallgovtimes.com/sto...esty.opponents/
EDITORIAL - Although action in the United States Senate this week has slowed passage of the amnesty bill, it is not yet dead as President Bush remains ...
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Major provisions of minor import - San Francisco Chronicle, USA
http://news.google.com/news?um=1...=amnesty% 20bill
He repeated his argument that the Kennedy-Kyl bill is not an amnesty bill for illegal immigrants -- because they would have to return to their country of ...
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Liberals Stunned by Radical New 'AMNESTY BILL,' According to - Earthtimes.org - Jun 12, 2007
http://www.earthtimes.org/ articl...se,121219.shtml
In this newly proposed "AMNESTY BILL," illegal aliens would have 120 days to leave the US without any penalty or incarceration. In other words, "amnesty" ...
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A deceptive immigration bill - Napa Valley Register, CA - Jun 12, 2007
http:// www.napavalleyregister.co...e0247219958.txt
America needs you to call your senators and express your outrage over this amnesty bill, both in principle and in practical costs to the American people. ...
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WJACtv.com Joe Murray: President Makes A Personal Appeal - Evening Bulletin, PA - Jun 13, 2007
http://thebulletin.us/site/news....id=576361& rfi=6
The Texas senator pointed to the 1986 amnesty bill as a prime example where lawmakers "over-promised and under-delivered." Cornyn further stated that he was ...
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:30 pm | #

-PNAC and their "new pearl harbor"
-Iraq War
-Surge I
-Surge II
-Patriot Act
-Continuity of Government
-Patriot Act II
-Military Commissions Act
-Iran Plan
-North Korea Plan
-Plan to remove foreign policy from the president and put the responsibility of an NGO puppet under the code name "War Czar."
-Campaign to supress DC Madam phone resords.
-Campaign to link VT to 9/11 truthers and/or islamic funamentalist sympathizers.
-Smeer campaign against 9/11 truthers-includes the focused campaign to lock up all truthers as mentaly ill and enemies of the state (Fred revealed a part of this in the Michael Moore video).
-Implantable microchips to track different races who will have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide
-Shifting media attention of victims of AEI sanctioned child sex torture rituals for elite by inventing the fraudulent "false memory syndrome" and funding the fraudulent McMartin movie
-Bribing, blackmailing, coercing, intimidating , and killing in order to force the RFID program into legislation. They have already built the systems with tracking in global hawks and data access points in all street surveillance cameras as well all processing of heavy flow of RFID info from every Halliburton concentration camp.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:16 pm | #

Way cool
Totally Groovy,(A.T.H.F.) | 08.05.07 - 5:30 pm | #

MORE ARTICLES ON THIS DICTATORIAL PUSH FOR A TREASONOUS BILL
It's Obvious, Our Sovereignty Is Threatened Daily American Daily
http://www.americandaily.com/art...m/article/ 19217
CERTAIN MORTALITY OF THE UNITED STATES NewsWithViews.com
http://www.newswithviews.com/Woo...e/ frosty267.htm
The scuttling of amnesty bill S.1348 Joplin Independent
http:// www.joplinindependent.com...gheen1181578113
Why I Was Opposed Family Security Matters
http://www.familysecuritymatters....php? id=1054466
No Means No, Mr. President! Grassroots Opposition to Senate ... Earthtimes.org
http://www.earthtimes.org/ articl...se,121160.shtml
No real enforcement under 'amnesty bill' Ventura County Star (subscription)
http://www.venturacountystar.com...r-amnesty-bill/
With Immigration Bill Stalled, Advocates Push Forward New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/1.../ 14support.html
Bill offers realistic idea on immigration The Southern
http://www.southernillinoisan.co...ns/ 20585956.txt
Amnesty ignores public sentiment Asbury Park Press
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll.../706130365/ 1032
Elizabeth Dole Deserves a "Thank You" From Conservatives The Conservative Voice
http://www.theconservativevoice....icle/ 25905.html
Bush to push immigration bill at Capitol Central Penn Business Journal
http://www.centralpennbusiness.c...e.asp? aID=61081
Bush To Lobby For Stalled Immigration Bill WJACtv.com
http://www.wjactv.com/politics/1...035/ detail.html
Immigration's Lost Voices Canton Repository (subscription)
http://www.cantonrep.com/index.p...& subCategoryID=
Amnesty ignores public sentiment Asbury Park Press
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll.../706130365/ 1032
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:29 pm | #

Amendment I

CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:20 pm | #

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**emphasis added**

You do know the First Amendment doesn't apply to private entities, don't you?
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:27 pm | #

Sane, THIS IS GREAT. I can tell you feel the urgency as well. I am also shocked that, it seems like, over 85% of Americans are absolutely clueless................NO IDEA!! Son of a bitch, when SHIT HITS THE FAN, we're going to see first hand MASS hysteria, in ways we cannot even think of right now..........MASS HYSTERIA because most have no idea. This is nuts! Keep it coming Sane, you know we value your information and send it out to as many friends and family member that we can.

Geez, this is fucked, a done deal. Just a matter of time now.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 5:26 pm | #

IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 1 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h? v=XcWHyxAj68o
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 2 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h?v=EAklv1Z- ZEg
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 3 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h? v=lgRuuWZKrbg
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 4 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h? v=0ZVz09rE2sA
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 5 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=TvCXNQ6D8R4
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 6 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?v=KKYv- QFXkXU
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:25 pm | #

>>>>>>Ron Paul at debate on ABC OLLY 2 min in 90 min Debate - Aug 5, 2007
First 2 segments on ABC debate with George Stephanopoulos...Ron Paul ABC stephanopoulos debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=NKNaFGDuuUg
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Rudy Has No Clue About Health Care 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?v=9qVrokl3- 2I
Rudy Lies About His Second Amendment And Pro Life Stand 52 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h? v=YJfbQh547o4
Gov. Romney: Is Clueless About Military [Ron Paul has most active duty supporters], Economy [He inherits $300 million, how does he know?], and Family [Separates children from families in African juevenille rape rooms] 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h? v=vvtJDBnm0O4
Gov. Romney: My Biggest Mistake was thinking people won't see what a fraud I am 23 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=H0te3KeuZaU
Gov. Romney: I Think The President Has Kept Us Safe Because I Do Not Read The Intelligence Reports 32 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eqbx7vk1MQg
Gov. Romney: Fix It First So I Can Break Something New 53 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=u44cnqqqdS4
Gov. Romney: I Think Pakistan Is A Moderate Muslim State 2 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (4 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h? v=tXeclPzdlno
Gov. Romney: I Will Continue To Believe In Outlandish Conspiracy Theories About Radical Jihad As An Excuse To Nuke The Middle East And Lock Up American Citizens 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eYZHITSAdWM
Gov. Romney: I Am Financially Personally Responsible For My Healthcare As I Have $300 Million 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h? v=WnX5ZsmRgT8
Gov. Romney: We Need A Surge of Support For Me That Is Why I Purchase Poll Results Like the One In Iowa 38 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h? v=2e9rKP0Ssqk
Gov. Romney On Sen. Obama: Jane Fonda To Doctor Strangelove Is The Extent Of My Simple Mind, Proving I cannot Tackle Complex Issues 37 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (5 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h? v=z80ss1F6FV8
Gov Romney Backpeddles On Sen. Brownback's Factual Statements 4 min - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FPboc61AZes

GE/AOL/Disney/NewsCorp/NationalAmusement [CNN/CNNHeadline/MSNBC/ABC/NBC/CNBC/FOX/FoxNews/ CBS] Blackout all news of Republican Debate.

Anyone who says there is no conspiracy against sovereignty and The Constitution has lost their fricking mind.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:22 pm | #

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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First Amendment protects the right to a free press. Take a look at what it takes to create a nework/cable/satellite TV show and you will see the violation with your own eyes. This is besides the targeted journalists that Cheney kills ewith executive order "By Any Means Necessary." Journalists like Daniel Pearl that was beheaded in a Neo-Con Snuff Film.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:20 pm | #

I cannot believe that our/your valuable internet time, while we still have it, is STILL being spent trying and wanting to fuck with the regular bloggers in here. I mean really fuckface, what's your god damn deal asshole?

Tired of jerking your dick off?

Tired of fucking your boyfriend in his dirty asshole?

Tire of sucking your mamas hairy cunt?
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Err, the AOL chatrooms are this way -------->. Be sure to look for the "10 and under" header.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:20 pm | #

>>>>Continuity of Government is owned by Cheney's Front Group, SEI

http://www.continuityofgovernmen...t.org/ home.html
About the Commission
The Continuity of Government Commission was launched in the fall of 2002 in order to study and recommend reforms to ensure the continuity of our governmental institutions in the event of a catastrophic attack.

The commission is an American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Brookings Institution project headquartered at AEI. It is funded by the Carnegie, Hewlett, Packard, and MacArthur foundations. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford are the honorary co-chairs of the commission and Lloyd Cutler and Alan Simpson are the chairmen. The commission includes members who have served in government at the highest levels.

The commission first focused its attention on preserving Congress, and has now turned to the executive and the Supreme Court. The central issue that the commission addressed is how Congress could function if a large number of members were killed or incapacitated. The problem is most acute in the House of Representatives because the Constitution requires that all vacancies be filled by special election, and it takes four months on average to fill these seats. If there were mass vacancies, the House might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement, or it might operate with a small and unrepresentative number. A second problem is that of incapacity. There is no precedent for filling temporary vacancies so both houses of Congress would be severely diminished, or unable to operate at all, if a large number of members were incapacitated. The events of September 11th led to several ongoing efforts to preserve the continuity of Congress. There was a similar effort in the 1950s and 1960s to deal with these same issues.

In addition, the commission will deal both with the continuity of the Supreme Court, which has a quorum requirement, and with potential reforms to the Presidential Succession Act.The commission met twice in the fall of 2002 to hear testimony and formulate recommendations. It issued a report in June of 2003 on the continuity of Congress. The second phase of the commission has begun addressing presidential succession and will include discussion of continuity in the Supreme Court.
Areas of Investigation
The Continuity of Government Commission will address the continuity of all three branches of government:
Continuity of Congress - The central issue the commission will address is how Congress would function after a terrorist attack. Because of the possibility of large numbers of incapacitated members or vacancies, Congress might not be able to function unless some provision is made to replace members who are deceased or unable to perform their duties. A crippled Congress might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement in a time of crisis.
Presidential Succession - In a second phase of the project, the commission will look at issues surrounding the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, with an eye to ensure that there is a clear transfer of power to the appropriate successor in a time of crisis.
Continuity of the Supreme Court - In the aftermath of a terrorist attack, there might be significant institutional questions over which the Supreme Court would have to rule. The Supreme Court has a quorum requirement of six, and there are a number of other questions about the status of lower court appeals if the Court were disabled for a significant amount of time.
Continuity of Congress
But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session. The resulting deaths and injuries might have caused the Congress to cease functioning altogether for a number of months.

There are two issues that threaten the continuity of Congress after a terrorist attack: mass vacancies and incapacitated members. The issue of mass vacancies affects the House of Representatives where vacancies are filled only by special election, unlike the Senate where governors may make immediate temporary appointments. Special elections are governed by state laws, and, on average, it takes four months to elect a new member to fill a vacant seat. Depending on the number of vacancies, the House might not even be able to field a quorum, or it might have to operate with a skeleton crew of members not representative of the country as a whole. The second issue of incapacitated members affects both the House and the Senate. Neither body has regular procedures to deal with incapacitated members. In the past, members who have serious incapacities that prevent them from performing their duties were left in place until the end of their terms. If a large number of members were temporarily unable to perform their duties due to injuries or infectious diseases, both bodies might not be able to function because of a lack of a quorum.

In the 1950s and 60s, the Senate passed three constitutional amendments giving governors the power to make temporary appointments to fill House vacancies when there were mass vacancies. The House did not act on these measures. After September 11th, Norman Ornstein wrote "What if Congress were Obliterated?" in Roll Call addressing this very issue. On a parallel track, Congressman Brian Baird introduced H.J. Res. 67. A number of other proposals have been introduced or suggested. There have also been a number of hearings before committees in the House.

http://www.continuityofgovernmen...mages/ quote.jpg
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Did you guys get that?????

Some brave pilot blew the Unmanned aircraft out of the sky and AEI/PNAC/Cheney are so pissed.

Here it is again:
Continuity of Congress
But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session.

Check out the other stuff in BOLD, can anyone say MOTIF????????

They are talking about the attacks that they plan and execute, why doesn't 99% of the public see this??????
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>>> Other AEI Projects in Preparation of Martial Law:

-PNAC and their "new pearl harbor"
-Iraq War
-Surge I
-Surge II
-Patriot Act
-Continuity of Government
-Patriot Act II
-Military Commissions Act
-Iran Plan
-North Korea Plan
-Plan to remove foreign policy from the president and put the responsibility of an NGO puppet under the code name "War Czar."
-Campaign to supress DC Madam phone resords.
-Campaign to link VT to 9/11 truthers and/or islamic funamentalist sympathizers.
-Smeer campaign against 9/11 truthers-includes the focused campaign to lock up all truthers as mentaly ill and enemies of the state (Fred revealed a part of this in the Michael Moore video).
-Implantable microchips to track different races who will have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide
-Shifting media attention of victims of AEI sanctioned child sex torture rituals for elite by inventing the fraudulent "false memory syndrome" and funding the fraudulent McMartin movie
-Bribing, blackmailing, coercing, intimidating , and killing in order to force the RFID program into legislation. They have already built the systems with tracking in global hawks and data access points in all street surveillance cameras as well all processing of heavy flow of RFID info from every Halliburton concentration camp.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:16 pm | #

DRAFT LEGISLATION
110TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION
H.R. ________
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

introduce the following bill;
which was referred to the Committee on Rules

A BILL
To require before final passage of any Bill the printing and full verbatim reading of the text of such Bill, and each and every amendment attached thereto, to each house of Congress called to order with a quorum physically assembled throughout, the entry of such a printing and reading in the journal of each house of Congress, and the verbatim publication of every such Bill, and each and every amendment thereto, on the official Internet web site of the Senate and the House of Representatives at least seven days before floor consideration and final passage of any Bill, and each and every amendment thereto by each house of Congress; and to provide for enforcement of the printing, reading, entry, publication, recording and affidavit requirements herein.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States
Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE

This Act may be cited as the “Read the Bills Act.”

SECTION 2. FINDINGS

(a) The United States Constitution vests all legislative powers granted therein to the United States Congress, members of both the Senate and House of which are elected by the people to whom each member is accountable to represent the people of the State and of the House District in the exercise of each member's legislative powers.

(b) To the end that Congress be politically and legally accountable to the people, Article I, Section 4 of the United States Constitution requires each House of Congress to keep a journal of its proceedings and from time to time publish the same.

(c) To the end that no legislation be passed without effective representation of the people's interest by the elected members of the Congress, Article I, Section 7 of the United States Constitution states that only those Bills “which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate,” and not vetoed by the President, “shall become” Laws.

(d) According to Section I of Thomas Jefferson's 1812 Manual of Parliamentary Practice for the Use of the Senate of the United States (“Jefferson's Manual”), “nothing tended more to throw power into the hands of administration and those who acted with the majority ... than a neglect of, or departure from, the rules of proceeding [which] operated as a check and control of the actions of the majority [and] a shelter and protection to the minority.”

(e) According to Sections XXII and XL of Jefferson's Manual, it was the rule of the Senate that every bill receive three readings, two full readings by the Clerk of the Senate, and a third reading of the title of the bill only in that “every member of the Senate had a printed copy [of said bill] in his hand.”

(f) According to Sections XXIV, XXV, and XL of Jefferson's Manual, it was the rule of the House of Representatives, following the parliamentary procedure of the English House of Commons, that every bill received two full readings by the Clerk of the House, and a reading of the whole contents of the bill verbatim by the Speaker of the House before the House voted on each bill.

(g) Under current Senate rules, the Senate has departed from its original practice of a full first and second reading of each bill, and of ensuring that each Senator has a printed or other verbatim copy of each bill before passage thereof, having by Rule XIV limited each reading of a bill to the reading of the bill's title only, unless the Senate in any case shall otherwise order.

(h) Under current House rules, the House of Representatives has by Rule XVI ( and Rule XVIII (5) embraced its original practice of full first and second readings of each bill, but has regularly departed from this practice by unanimous consent of the House, and has dispensed altogether its original practice of a verbatim third reading of each bill before passage, limiting such third reading to the reading of the title only, including the reading of the title only even when members of the House have no printed or other verbatim copy of a bill before passage.

(i) Although Section 106, Title 1, United States Code, requires a bill to be made available in written form to each member of Congress before final passage Congress has by statute conferred upon itself the power, during the last six days of a session of Congress, by concurrent resolution, to vote for passage of a bill that is not in form at the time of final passage.

(j) As a direct consequence of the Senate and the House of Representatives departure from the salutary practice of full, verbatim readings of each bill before final passage, and further, as a direct consequence of Congress, by concurrent resolution, having permitted certain appropriation and budget bills to be enacted into law without such bills being printed and presented to Congress in written form prior to final passage, Congress has: (a) imposed upon the American people excessively long bills, largely written by an unelected bureaucracy, resulting in generally incomprehensible, cumbersome, oppressive and burdensome laws, containing hidden provisions for special interests; (b) deprived the American people and their elected Senators and Representatives of a full and fair opportunity to examine the text of said bills, and all amendments thereto, prior to passage; (c) undermined the confidence of the American people by its failure to give adequate notice to the people before a vote is taken on said bills and their amendments in the bills; and (d) has called into question the integrity and reliability of the legislative processes in both houses of Congress by its failure to ensure that each member of the Senate and each member of the House has, prior to passage, either listened attentively to the reading of the full text of each bill, and its amendments, or has personally read the text thereof.

SECTION 3. READ THE BILLS BEFORE PASSAGE

(a) Chapter 2 of Title 1, United States Code, shall be amended by inserting at the end of the first sentence of Section 106, the following: “provided however, that no bill — including, but not limited to, any bill produced by conference between the two houses of Congress and any bill or resolution extending, modifying, or otherwise affecting the expiration date of a bill previously passed and enacted into law by Congress — shall pass either house of Congress: (a) without the full text of said bill, and the full text of each and every amendment thereto and — if the bill or resolution extends, modifies, or in any way affects the expiration date of a bill previously passed and enacted into law — without the full text of such bill or resolution and the full text of the bill previously passed and enacted into law having first been individually read verbatim by the Clerk of each house to the body of each house called to order and physically assembled with a quorum present throughout the time of the full textual reading of said bill, and of the full text of any bill previously passed and enacted into law, if any, that is the subject of a bill or resolution extending, modifying or in any way affecting the expiration date of such previously passed bill enacted into law; and (b) without the full text of said bill, and the full text of each and every amendment thereto, and the full text of the previously passed bill and enacted into law, if any, having been published verbatim on the official Internet web site of each house at least seven days prior to a final vote thereon in each house, together with an official notice of the date and time on which the vote on the final version of said bill and its amendments will take place.”

(b) Chapter 2, Title 1, United States Code, shall be further amended by striking the last sentence of Section 106, and substituting therefor: “With respect to each bill and each and every amendment thereto, and each bill previously passed and enacted into law, the expiration date having been extended, modified or in any way changed by a bill or resolution, each house of Congress shall cause to be recorded in its journal of proceedings: (a) that the reading, printing, and publishing requirements of this section have been met; and (b) the names of those members of the Senate and of the House present during the reading of each bill and each and every amendment thereto. Each member of the Senate and each member of the House shall execute a sworn affidavit, such affidavit being executed under penalty of perjury as provided in Section 1621, Title 18, United States Code, that the member either was present throughout the entire reading of each bill, each and every amendment thereto, and listened attentively to such reading, or, prior to any vote on passage of the bill, and each and every amendment thereto, personally read attentively each bill, and each and every amendment thereto, in their entirety. Neither house of Congress, nor Congress jointly — by concurrent resolution, or by unanimous consent, or by any other order, resolution, vote, or other means — may dispense with, or otherwise waive or modify, the printing, reading, entry, publishing, recording, or affidavit requirements set forth herein.”

(c) Chapter 2, Title 1, United States Code, shall be further amended by renumbering Sections 106a and 106b to 106b and 106c respectively and adding a new Section 106a as follows: “Enforcement Clause. No bill shall become law, nor enforced or applied as law, without Congress having complied fully with the printing, reading, entry, publishing, recording, and affidavit requirements of Section 106, Title 2, United States Code and any person against whom such a bill is enforced or applied may invoke such noncompliance as a complete defense to any action, criminal or civil, brought against him. Any person
Totally Groovy,(A.T.H.F.) | 08.05.07 - 5:16 pm | #

Hey fluid, what was that you said about no "jack-booted thugs" breaking into citizen homes and taking their belongings and their liberty? Does this count?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 3:19 pm | #
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

A soldier raped and killed a girl while serving in Iraq. He was appropriately punished (except for the possible parole after 10 years). How is that indicative of a police state, which I clearly indicated with "jack-booted thugs". Bad people do bad things. It happens.

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You do not seem to like to answer questions directly or in realtime....

Dear Fluid,

I will check back later....take your time.

Thanks
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 4:53 pm | #

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Settle down sparky. Not EVERYONE spends 20 hours a day on this message board; nor would I even if I could. In fact, I have somewhere to go (gasp!) and I won't likely post again until (gasp!) tomorrow. Believe it or not, it happens.

but give them the information on Ron

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:21 pm | #

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http://seoblackhat.com/2007/07/2...ther-interview/

let them decise whether or not there is a media blackout thus a violation of the constitution's first amendment

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:21 pm | #
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The first amendment does not apply to private entities. You knew that, right?
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:15 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:13 pm | #

The Occult History of the Third Reich Adolf Hitler 54 min - Jan 1, 1999 - (578 ratings) ("Adolph Hitler", "The SS Blood and Soil", "The Enigma of the Swastika", and "Himmler The
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:12 pm | #

FRED THOMPSON EXPOSED AS AN AGENT FOR ROTHSCHILD
http://www.scoreboard- canada.com...onrothchild.htm
Fred Thompson 2008: Additional Rothschild and Open Borders links Exposed
(Scoreboard Canada contributer July 29th, 2007)
A previous article has indicated the likelihood that Fred Thompson, the 'real' or 'true' conservative candidate for the Republican nomination is in fact a Rothschild lobbyist and or employee. This link is very direct and raises questions in a very straightforward manner as to whom Mr. Thompson would be serving if elected President of the USA. One logical inference is that he would continue the tradition of serving the interests of Israel and Zionist billionaires that has now been in fashion for decades in Washington D.C.
http://www.scoreboard-canada.com...on- thompson.htm
Recent news reports that became public after the posting of the previous article, noted that there has been a 'shake-up' of the staff leadership for the Fred Thompson for President 2008 campaign. - The net result has been to INCREASE connections to the Rothschild Illuminati empire. Former Department of Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham has been placed in charge of the bogus Zionist power grab masquerading as a presidential campaign. See: http://www.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 2...ompson_campaign
1. ROTHSCHILD BACKGROUND FOR SPENCER ABRAHAM:
a) The following link notes that Spencer Abraham was named a director of AREVA, Inc. the US subsidiary of the huge french nuclear conglomerate and that he was consistently in favor of 'Open Borders'. http://www.scoreboard-canada.com...spencer- abraham . AREVA is the largest seller of nuclear power plants to China. Is now set "to close a huge nuclear deal with China" http://www.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/ ...gy_070726181448
b) AREVA is largely owned by the French government. This means that Spencer Abraham was at least indirectly an employee of a very important French government linked outfit just prior to heading Fred Thompson's campaign.
c) Finance Minister Christine Lagarde is going to China to sign the deal, such is its importance to the economy of France and AREVA. Ms. Lagarde used to be an aide , of all things to former US Defense Secretary William Cohen and was the first female Chairperson for the International law firm of Baker & McKenzie. http://www.en.wikipedia.org/ wiki...ristine_Lagarde When asked about the near total handover of US nuclear know-how including atomic bomb designs to the Chinese, Secretary of Defense William Cohen said: They weren't exactly spying in my view. We gave it to them." www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/china/index.html
Former Secretary Cohen now runs the Cohen Group which specializes in part on deals with communist china, much like the deal AREVA is doing now. http://www.cohengroup.net/expert...rtise/ china.cfm
d) Ms. Lagarde when practicing at Baker & Makenzie had praise for fellow French woman and founder of AREVA , Anne Lauvergeon. http://www.time.com/time/ subscri...lauvergeon.html
Ms. Lauvergeon is a member of the sinister Trilateral Commission:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au...g.au/ weektc.htm
Ms. Lauvergeon attended the 2006 Bilderberg meeting: http://www.bilderberg.org/2006.htm
This was the ultimate boss of Spencer Abraham, once the head of DOE, tasked with control of the USA's nuclear assets and technology. She is the 8th most powerful woman in the world, second in Europe and 1st in France: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne....gm8& refer=asia
Rothschild and AREVA = Rothschild often acts as financial advisor to AREVA on various deals
http://www.neimagazine.com/ story...oryCode=2045247
http://www.summitresources.com.a...asx/ 110407b.pdf
* As Energy Secretary , Spencer Abraham lobbied for Westinghouse to get nuclear deals in China against AREVA - the company that he now works for as a director: http://www.globalresearch.ca/ind...ext=va& aid=5949
The previous link, scroll to near bottom, also notes that the Rothschild link is not limited to advising AREVA, Rothschild is the manager of privately traded shares of the minority interest in the national company that is in private hands. The Rothschild empire has been a very big player in the uranium market for decades. "Nuclear power and energy supples are controlled globally by the Rothschild syndicate." scroll down 50 percent: http://www.globalresearch.ca/ind...ext=va& aid=5949
Depleted Uranium is allegedly causing havoc among children, particularly in Iraq - caution graphic photos are gruesome: more .Todd R. Snyder is a director of Gencorp. He is the managing director of Rothschild Inc. more .Gencorp owns Aerojet Corporation which is one of two makers of depleted uranium for the pentagon. more . One of the founders of Aerojet was Jack Parsons a top notch scientist ... and Satanist. more. scroll 50%.
http://www.wake-up-america.net/ d...ted_uranium.htm
http://www.gencorp.com/pages/ir_...s/ ir_board.html
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerojet
http://www.reason.com/news/show/...show/ 32190.html
Aerojet and depleted uranium = http://www.commondreams.org/view...s02/0709- 07.htm
Aerojet is not just about plutonium or depleted uranium. Simply google Aerojet DARPA and numerous links will emerge, hypersonic engines , the HyFly missile for Boeing, you name it. A former Aerojet man was named the head of the CIA under suspected JFK assassination plotter LBJ. http://www.time.com/time/ printou...,833615,00.html
William F. Raborn. krewed up with all of this is the Rothschild empire, of course... AREVA handles the world's largest repository of nuclear , radioactive materials in t