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Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 11:42 pm | #
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Why in hell don't you just run Linux?
Install an independent Linux OS and you have no problems.
Fuck Win-doze!
Anonymous | 08.09.07 - 11:06 am | #

you can read descriptions at the pages before grabbing em up, all good stuff tho.

Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 11:42 pm |
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I see. Let me ask you then , what would be the safety of using hushmail , assuming I had all of the above neccessities installed as well. Also - Is Scroogle a good thing in your opinion ?
You KNOW I value your opinion ST.
(Can we go to 59 ? so much less load time in my opinion )
ty ST !
kells | 08.09.07 - 12:11 am | #

Anon was me again. I have only heard alex three times in the past 6-8 weeks because of trouble with windows media. So I missed his reference. I hear you Oldman, with the new free-for-all spying powers every part of our lives is fair game.
Is there a way to hide an IP ? Someone suggested using Scroogle a while back. THere must be something out there that isn't too complicated.
Also , aren't they already able to track everyone who is here ?
kells | 08.08.07 - 11:25 pm | #

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yes tracking has been in full effect for a long while now.. but looking for a proxy server you can trust is "fun" too. many are set up and monitored, just to be looking for people thinking theyre smart in trying to hide!

this a list of what I consider essentials for any online pc:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/ Sec...ScripTrap.shtml
-behaves like a firewall pops up warning to unknown script.

http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/
-firewall supplement to help block unwanted communications

http://www.softpedia.com/get/ Twe...RegSeeker.shtml
-removes registry orphans and helps a pc's performance
-can clear entried from index.dat in IE temp files

http://www.softpedia.com/progDow...load- 52111.html
-free fully functional for 30 days antispy

http://www.softpedia.com/get/ Int...tiSpyware.shtml
-free version antispyware

http://www.softpedia.com/progDow...nload- 6858.html
-free GOOD antivirus program (mcaffee and norton are junk)

http://www.softpedia.com/progDow...nload- 6199.html
-tabbed browser with great security features, activeX and popup/under blocking

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Sec...- Firewall.shtml
-free fully pro version firewall

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Sec...- Firewall.shtml
-another firewall, but can run on win98/ME

-you can read descriptions at the pages before grabbing em up, all good stuff tho.

Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 11:42 pm | #

I never heard Alex refer to the reader comments section during any of his shows. I don't think he is concerned about it one way or another
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 11:40 pm | #
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Yea he said over a month ago that he was starting one of his own.
He has had it for quite a while now.
I am not going to register for any web site.
It's not that I don't trust Alex, I do, I don't trust the Gov.
Oldman. | 08.08.07 - 4:02 pm |
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Anon was me again. I have only heard alex three times in the past 6-8 weeks because of trouble with windows media. So I missed his reference. I hear you Oldman, with the new free-for-all spying powers every part of our lives is fair game.
Is there a way to hide an IP ? Someone suggested using Scroogle a while back. THere must be something out there that isn't too complicated.
Also , aren't they already able to track everyone who is here ?
kells | 08.08.07 - 11:25 pm | #

KELLS !!
a good friend made the suggestion to open an e-mail account at hushmail.com
they dont ask jack squat for ID info.
Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 7:02 am |
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Perfect. You made my day.
Anonymous | 08.08.07 - 11:06 am | #
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Yea, but they still have your IP address.
And we all know what Bush does, the Bastard.
Oldman. | 08.08.07 - 4:04 pm | #

KELLS !!
a good friend made the suggestion to open an e-mail account at hushmail.com
they dont ask jack squat for ID info.
Sees Things | 08.08.07 - 7:02 am | #

Anonymous was me Sees Things, sorry.
kells | 08.07.07 - 11:48 pm | #

whats this ? SPOOK.COM ?
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:50 pm
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This board seems to have lost its party doesn't it ?
I am probably not going to do the register thing either.
I never heard Alex refer to the reader comments section during any of his shows. I don't think he is concerned about it one way or another. It is just a service for us that he provides.
I'm going to miss you sees things. You really are able to see into the ''how'' of nwo plans. You really do see things that wouldn't make sense to me until you explain it.I appreciate that about you . You connect the dots with seemingly no effort and explain it for those of us who are newer at this thing, and don't quite understand it all.
So many others have just stopped posting, I will miss them too. Maybe they couldn't get back to it after PP took away the Comments link.
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 11:40 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...807_b_names.htm

whats this ? SPOOK.COM ?
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:50 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...b_Globalist.htm

liars liars everywhere.. tony snow too.
get to the bottom of the page and its all about registering to be able to type anything in the forums. must be valid e-mail address etc etc.
sorry folks but if alex jones has gone big brother I'm outta here.
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:39 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti..._b_Giuliani.htm

hell, I hope ghoul-iani does beat hitlery, with a lead pipe very hard, then he can be locked up for the murder and it'd be 2 down.
Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:26 pm | #

http://infowars.net/articles/ aug...070807Power.htm

and congress a buncha idiots for not arresting this criminal.
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Sees Things | 08.07.07 - 8:12 pm | #

We need people to sit at their computers at the poll sites when the debate starts, then perform a printscreen function & save every 5 minutes or so, so the public will have the 'evidence' of any poll tampering!
Mark Matthews | 08.07.07 - 7:01 pm | #

Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 10:41 am | #
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Sorry, I forgot that dial up still existed. I will only post new stuff and any general news stuff on 59 since it only has one post right now.

Just keep in mind the reason that 60 is so long is because it has been used for like 7 days, when usually a numbered thread is only up for half a day. There seems to have been an issue with the linking from the articles and this caused a long time on that thread. Also others and myself got hit with at least 100 false flag blog posts.

Thanks for letting me know that my actions may be causing an undesired affect.

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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:09 pm | #
From http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=15738#121730
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:12 pm | #

Alex is on.........
http://infowars.com/listen.html
Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 12:17 pm | #

Sane, and others.
You should keep in mind people who do not have high speed internet will not stay and join in conversation. We've been on page 60 for what, 3 or 4 days now?
My internet is pretty good, but I'm geussing the full page of #60 is something like 67 feet long now.
Some poor bastard with dialup will have to wait for about 5 hours just for the page to load. It will not load completely for me this morning.
Waiting forever for the page to load, then being reluctant to join in because it'll have to load again.......another 5 hours....ain't gonna happen for most people. While the voluminous posts you give are informative, they are not conducive to a community of discussion. Everyone is leaving to go where they can be involved in conversation, on a page that isn't 67 feet long, without 90 % of the page consumed by one individual who fills the page with info no-one has time or the inclination to read in the first place.
Sane, we love ya, but you're killing this forum.
Michael D.
Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 10:41 am | #

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Copied from page 61, been trying to get 60 to load all morning, this is the first time it loaded completely, allowing a comment.........
Henry Bowman | 08.07.07 - 12:16 pm | #

Reichstag 911
1 hr 59 min - Jul 8, 2007 - (89 ratings)
Political documentary focusing on terror attacks and their effects on the populations which suffer from them.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...146227169989321
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 5:04 am | #

Not sure, but I am kind of following this philosophy tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=58CJih1iYC0
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:41 am | #

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One of my favorites!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:48 am | #

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If this is what we outsource, what stuff are we too scared to outsource?
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:47 am | #

Hey sane or anyone else who is hangin' out here.... I am wondering what the hell happened to all the links to Reader Comments on PP...am I missing something?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:36 am | #

Not sure, but I am kind of following this philosophy tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=58CJih1iYC0
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:41 am | #

DailyKos Poll Update - Ron Paul now at 80%

Who'd win in the general election?

Hillary Clinton
19%
99 votes

Ron Paul
80%
399 votes

498 votes
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:37 am | #

Robin Williams as CFR and Bilderberg take over our country.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:59 am | #

Hey sane or anyone else who is hangin' out here.... I am wondering what the hell happened to all the links to Reader Comments on PP...am I missing something?
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:36 am | #

Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich exposes that outsourcing of psyops allows for Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, and Abu Graib lies and obstructions of justice

Watch the entire questioning by Dennis Kucinich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h? v=yxshMiedhYM
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Rendon Group is hired by the Department of Defense to conduct worldwide psyops operations including command and control of all messages to non-high security clearance individuals:
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CBC News In Depth: Spin CyclesEvery day has been about the talking points of the day, the message consistency and I ... IB: One of the organizations you write about is the Rendon Group. ...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/backgroun...pt- rampton.html - 51k - Cached - Similar pages
Business: Wanted: Ad agency to aid global battle on terrorismThe military said the deceptive message was intended to gauge enemy response. ... never been able to get the Rendon Group to discuss its psy-op activities. ...
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/12/ 0...gency_to_.shtml - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
The Victory of Spin | Center for Media and DemocracyTaylor said, "Outsourcing is either a sign of recognition that the ... However, Rendon's role in the current invasion of Iraq, although little noted, ...
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The Victory of SpinTaylor said, "Outsourcing is either a sign of recognition that the military ... In a rare interview, Rendon "openly boasted" to journalist James Bamford of ...
http://www.prwatch.org/node/4397/print - 23k - Cached - Similar pages
MountainRunner: Civil-Military Relations ArchivesThe British propaganda machine in World War I was extremely effective in both the propagation of message and the secrecy in the source. Unlike the Rendon ...
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WAR DEPARTMENT: military archives of the Progressive ReviewOUTSOURCING WAR. JOHN G. ROOS ARMY TIMES - Ben Thomas and three colleagues .... but lesser-known firms like the Rendon Group (providing public relations ...
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Firedoglake - Firedoglake weblog » Tillman Hearing, Part TwoRummy: It was the army’s fault? K; outsourcing of message? Rummy: Ask army .... Rendon/Lincoln/Rendon/Lincoln…KKKarl. [Be gentle with me…save the one-liners ...
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/...aring-part-two/ - 319k - Cached - Similar pages
On The Media-- HIRED HANDThe Rendon Group brought the people together, created the organization, ... and the Pentagon's increasing outsourcing of its propaganda work. ...
http://www.onthemedia.org/yore/ t...20205_hand.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
On The Media: Transcript of "Hired Hand" (December 2, 2005)Bob talks to intelligence expert James Bamford about the Rendon Group, ... and the Pentagon's increasing outsourcing of its propaganda work. ...
http://www.onthemedia.org/transc...s/2005/12/02/ 02 - 15k - Cached - Similar pages
Psyops and Influence Operations in IraqOne dubious aspect of US IO messages was the continual references to the size and capability of the Iraqi military – the world’s 4th largest army, ...
http://www.globalfocus.org/GF-IO...F-IOPO- Iraq.htm - 50k - Cached - Similar pages
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Lincoln Group is hired by the Department of Defense to conduct worldwide psyops operations including command and control of all messages to non-high security clearance individuals:
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Lincoln Group - SourceWatchIn 2006 the New York Times reported that the Lincoln Group won U.S. military contracts "after claiming to have partnerships with major media and advertising ...
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Pentagon quizzed on Iraq propaganda program - Conflict in Iraq ...One of the companies involved — the Washington-based Lincoln Group — has at least two contracts with the military to provide media and public relations ...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10272171/ - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
Lincoln Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIn September 2005, the Lincoln Group was looking to hire "senior media and PR .... Wilkinson "will craft long-term messaging strategy for the National ...
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USATODAY.com - Controversial PR group wins contract in IraqWashington-based Lincoln Group won a two-year contract to monitor a number of English and Arabic media outlets and produce public relations-type products ...
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George Bush has since 9/11 used outsourcing firms to control the media message, but in the last few years he has enacted "media war powers" which means that all stories/timing/visuals/sound bites/repetitian must go through psyops to be approved. In other words, the guys you see on the news are not fucked up, they are under "media war powers" as if we were all in Vietnam having to listen to Robin Williams as CFR and Bilderberg take over our country.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:59 am | #

Gambling911.com : "Ron Paul's Chances are Looking Better Than Ever"
http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-P...aul- 080707.html
Ron Paul Fox News Video Gets Over 32,000 Views

Following Sunday morning's Iowa debate, 2008 Presidential hopeful Ron Paul appeared on Fox News. The video was among the most viewed on YouTube by Monday evening.

Our own Jennifer Reynolds submitted a piece on Paul Monday entitled "Ron Paul's Chances are Looking Better Than Ever"

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We all know we can't trust the "official" polls. They are manipulated, twisted, aimed at a particular group to get the right answer, etc. How many of you have ever been called by a pollster? I have, and as soon as I refused to give out personal information, such as my age, financial status, and address, I was hung up on. Those folks just don't like to talk to people who refuse to help them with their demographic analysis. Well, most individuals I know do not like to give out that kind of information to strangers and these are the very kinds of people that support Ron Paul. As a Congressman, Ron Paul has done just about everything he can to keep us safer from the government and give us liberty and freedom, and yes, privacy. Therefore, it is likely that the typical Ron Paul supporter will not get to far with the typical pollster. This suggests that Ron Paul is doing much better than "polls" suggest. Of course, the online polls, the ones where you get to keep your private information private, have Dr. Paul winning by a landslide. But let's put that aside for now.

How can I be so sure that Ron Paul is doing so well? All I have to do is look at the mainstream media and read between the lines. We all know that the mainstream media is manipulative, conniving, controlled by corporations and doing everything it can to sway this election. It wants to make sure that whoever is nominated, it darn well better be a statist who will be happy to donate to big corporations in one way or another. As such, the news up until now regarding Ron Paul has been pretty paltry.

Ron Paul won the first debate, and what was reported: silence (or accusations of spamming). Ron Paul arguable won the second debate (polls by ABC and MSNBC show he won, while a poll on Fox news reports he came in second) either way, what was reported: silence (and a few more accusations of spamming.) Ron Paul won the third debate and again silence. Now, for any respectable, non-corrupt news outlet, this would be news. Big news. A long shot out of nowhere seems to have captured the hearts and minds of America. One would expect lots of speculation as to why. However, nothing was printed (except of course here on Gambling911 and other Internet outlets). Most likely, Ron Paul scared them and they did not know what to do. If they report about him, he may gain ground, so they kept silent.

Well, the silence had its own blowback. People began to write to their newspapers and online news outlets demanding to know where was all the news about the new Internet Phenom - Ron Paul. People wrote that they could no longer trust their usual news sources. It became clear just how biased the mainstream news really is and how they were holding back stories on Ron Paul. During the second debate, Ron Paul was asked a question about his non-interventionist foreign policy. He explained that he held his policy because interfering in another country's business tends to have unintended consequences. He discussed the motivations behind the terrorist attacks and talked about how the terrorists have stated they attacked us because we are occupying their country, not because we are free. He was then asked (by an oh so fair and balanced moderator): Are you saying that America invited the 9/11 attacks?

Well, anyone with half a brain could see that was not what he said at all. It is as if the media is following the lead of the current administration and thinks it can do anything and we won't notice or care. We saw the manipulation. We saw how they tried to make Ron Paul an evil man. Ron Paul is not evil and never once said that the victims invited or deserved their fate. But, boy, did the news do its best to spin it that way. There are still articles that are trying to pin that on Ron Paul. Nevertheless, people are beginning to question the media and its truth distortions and are starting to lose faith. They can see the blatant spin and twists in articles on Ron Paul. They can see how desperate the media is to paint him as a kook, when Ron Paul is perhaps the only non-kook currently running. Ron Paul wants to end the war now, and bring all of our soldiers home now. Well, so does most of America, so how does that make him a kook? He also does not want to drop nuclear weapons on innocent civilians unlike most other candidates. And they call that kooky? (Most of the other candidates are for pre-emptive nuclear strikes). So, silence didn't work, it just made people mistrust the news. The spin is not working. Have you ever read the comments after an article that attacks Ron Paul based on nothing but non-sensical ad hominem attacks? It is brutal. His supporters attack in droves. People are not happy that the media is trying to take their candidate away from them.

This brings me to today. The latest tactic seems to state that Ron Paul, while he may not be a kook, (or put another way, "please don't send us hate email") he has absolutely no chance of winning. This may have been started in the interview with George Stephanopoulos, or somewhere else. But it appears that all the talking heads have gotten together for this latest attack on Ron Paul. Which is exactly why I say that he is gaining ground. If he were fading into the hoped for obscurity, they would continue to stay silent. We must stay forever Vigilant as this new tactic can be rather effective if people are not paying attention.

In general people do not like to "waste a vote" for a candidate they think will not win. So they vote for the people they think have a chance. This is a nutty idea when you think about it, because how can you ever have a chance at getting what you want if you do not vote for it. Nevertheless, the idea persists. So, all this talk about how Ron Paul does not have a chance of winning the nomination is simply another attempt to steer you away from Ron Paul. When they are trying to manipulate you, you know you have them running scared. And boy, are they scared. Here is an excellent article on why to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries. Ron Paul refuses to go away. His popularity continues to grow exponentially. The media attacks are continuing. My conclusion: he is winning. It make take a little while, but he is winning. Most people who hear him, or read about him become instant converts. It is hard to argue with a man who wants peace, prosperity, liberty, and freedom for ALL. Besides, who doesn't want to keep their whole paycheck? (Ron Paul is against the Income Tax and wants to repeal it.)

So now you know how I know that Ron Paul is doing so well. I do not suggest subjecting yourself to the mainstream news manipulation forum except in very small doses. But when you do, read between the lines. See what I see. Ron Paul is making an impact. A big impact. They will not be able to hide from it much longer. In the future, remember the silence. Remember the lies, the spins, the attacks. Think long and hard about where you get your information from. One last note: as of this moment on an ABC news poll, Ron Paul has 23,220 votes for the question "Who do you think won the [fourth] Republican Debate" while the next closest competitor, Mitt Romney has 3,405 votes. Take particular note of the comment at the bottom of the poll however, "Not a scientific survey." I would be surprised if this tremendous victory is reported in the next day's headlines.

If you would like to learn more about Ron Paul visit his campaign website at
http://www.RonPaul2008.com
http://www.LewRockwell.com

look on the home page for the Ron Paul file for articles by Ron Paul during his last ten terms as a Congressman.

"To know how someone will behave in the future, look to how they have behaved in the past." unknown
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:12 am | #

Poll: Who'd win in the general election?
[Ron Paul up another %!]
Hillary Clinton
20%
96 votes

Ron Paul
79%
367 votes

463 votes
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:07 am | #

New Report: UFO Over O’Hare Airport
http://www.livescience.com/blogs...ort-new-report/
“The identity of the UAP [unidentified aerial phenomenon] remains unknown, ” analysis suggests that a “significant air safety problem existed at O’Hare International Airport”
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:04 am | #

Satellite tracking will help answer questions about penguin travels
http://uwnews.washington.edu/ni/ ...articleID=35703
University of Washington scientists will attach satellite tracking devices to the backs of six penguins that have been treated at two centers in northern Argentina after their feathers were fouled with oil. The birds will be released into the Atlantic Ocean and their movements traced using satellites and the Internet.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:04 am | #

The Rising Tide of Popular Discontent in America
http://www.opednews.com/ articles...g_tide_of_p.htm
Is America headed for another Civil War if things don't change?
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:03 am | #

Putting the MN Bridge Collapse into Perspective
http://www.mises.org/story/2668
The correct message from the bridge collapse, which was allowed to happen with full knowledge of the bridge's structural problems, is that government cannot get the job done. The government lacks the incentive to fix problems.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:03 am | #

Buffett has $US46 BILLION in cash!
http://www.smh.com.au/news/ busin...6252629487.html
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:02 am | #

>>>>>>>IOWA STRAW POLL HAS ALREADY BEEN FIXED-NO VALIDATION ALLOWED-USING SAME MACHINES DECERTIFIED BY CALIFORNIA
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/F...m? InfoNo=022071
Iowa Poll made of Straw-Iowa GOP refuses to allow any Validation of Ballots.

...[straw poll official] came back on the line to say that the paper ballots would remain with the machines and would not elaborate further. I asked if the paper would be destroyed and she would not/could not answer.

So there you have it. The same machines that California just decertified 3 days ago and Florida is in the spot light about as well, are going to be used to determine the future of the very people behind the computer printouts for the election results.

It has become very clear to me why a small state like Iowa is made the first state. The local party charges $35 for _any_ Iowan that is old enough to vote in the 2008 election to cast a ballot. This fundraiser for the Iowa GOP is worth millions in direct and indirect revenue for the GOP here and the businessmen and rocking the boat that brought the money isn't going to happen.
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So what should be done? I am of the opinion that the education of the people of Iowa and the country has already started to happen and the net benefit for the revolution is worth all of the effort no matter what is reported by the Live Free or Diebold Computers. But I encourage us all not to be deterred by a muted result of the people's voice. The Bad Guys hear us and they are very worried that their time is near an end. But their fear also makes them very dangerous in too many ways to count. So the only advice I have is for us to keep doing exactly what we have been doing,... ignoring them. Their rigged polling, their rigged elections, their bias media, their fearmongering and warmongering are all signs of defeat and I am very encouraged by the awareness of most of the activist supporting Ron Paul.
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:41 am | #

DailyKos Poll Update: Who'd win in the general election?

Hillary Clinton
21%
95 votes

Ron Paul
78%
342 votes

437 votes
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:31 am | #

>>>>2008: Hillary Clinton vs. Ron Paul?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/6/205111/ 3638
by cryptochrome Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 06:47:48 PM PDT
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In 1992, Independent Ross Perot upset the election, bringing in 19% of the vote to Bill Clinton's 43% and George H.W. Bush's 37%. He did this on a populist, Washington-outsider campaign, at one point leading in the polls (which being an incredible flake he promptly lost). Then, as now, Americans were sick to death of electoral pablum. But now, unlike then, thanks to the netroots, we commoners not only have a voice in the polls, we have a voice in the debate. We have questions, we expect answers, and we are not putting up with the usual B.S. Hunter S. Thompson may be dead but his spirit is alive and kicking. This growing influence has given me pause to consider the unthinkable - what if a real grassroots, Washington-outsider candidate could get on the ballot? It's not just exciting to consider - in this stretched out campaign, a grassroots campaign might actually be able to find fertile soil. But there's a catch to that sentiment for the Democrats. Because in this election, the strongest Democrat is Hillary Clinton, arguably the biggest insider to run for office in years. And the candidate with the most vibrant netroots backing is a Republican, Ron Paul.
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What if?
During the 2000 elections, it was a running joke that Al Gore and George W. Bush were virtually identical, with nary a difference in their stated policy. Years later it's clear that in reality nothing could have been farther from the truth - and that the joke was on us. But at the time that viewpoint was not unreasonable. Both Gore and Bush were running their campaigns with the same strategy - maximum caution and minimum risk, aiming to win by as narrow an electoral and popular margin as they dared. The result was the closest presidential election in American history, and an internationally embarassing month long name-calling session that was ultimately resolved in the courts. This was not only the fault of the candidates. It was in fact mostly the fault of the negligent press, who failed to do their job and tell us what we wanted to know - what we NEEDED to know - about the candidate's true political views and commitments. How times have changed. Looking over recent events in both Democratic and Republican parties, it is clear that the power of big media and spin doctors to control the debate is fading fast, and the most significant factor in this erosion of power and explosion of truth are the netroots.

There were many faults with the Democratic YouTube debates (many of which can be laid squarely at Anderson Cooper's feet), but the informality of the questions was not one of them. The questions were offbeat but sharp, goofy but revealing, amateurish but meaningful, personal but seminal. The candidates fell back on their usual talking points as often as they could, but nonetheless found themselves faced with questions they could not easily spin their way. As a result, we actually got meaningful clarifications of position from John Edwards and a significant foreign policy debate between Obama and Clinton (not to mention some delightfully forthright opinions from Joe Biden). Last week, at YearlyKos, we again saw the power of netroots bluntness, when Clinton put her foot in it and was forced to spin her courting of lobbyists. The power of the netroots is most fully seen not by the number of cheers for the candidates, but by the number of boos for positions they'd rather not have liked you to know about and the crap they routinely peddle to cherry-picked audiences. The long-term effect of this can only be positive. Candidates are not only being asked the questions on peoples minds that big media never bothered to ask, they're being expected to answer them. Nor are the voters the only ones who benefit. Politicians themselves are finding the freedom to speak their mind that they never thought they had - case in point, Al Gore.

So what if the grassroots really plays a meaningful role this time?
At the moment, the Democratic field looks unstoppable, with three powerhouse candidates and a relatively strong second tier. In contrast the Republican field is mired in personal controversy, fizzling political capital, and destructive infighting. Despite all this, it doesn't take a genius to see that the game will change entirely once both sides pick their candidates, when the two candidates really start to square off against each other for the american population as a whole rather than inside the narrow confines of primary voters. For the Democrats, the smart money is on Hillary Clinton for the nomination. For the Republicans, the situation is much less certain. Thus far, no candidate has really lept ahead of the pack, or even ahead of their personal failings. As far as I can tell, only two candidates seem to be gaining or holding ground. The first is Mitt Romney, who politically should have been the favorite but made the mistake of being Mormon in a party dominated by Christian fundamentalists. The other is an even-tempered yet iconoclastic libertarian representative from Texas, Ron Paul.

Despite a long record in Congress, Paul is a consummate outsider. His opposition to the war in the Republican field is what catches the eye these days, but his voting record and long-standing policies are what really set him apart - his own party has tried to remove him on multiple occasions opposed him at many turns. He also just so happens to be the darling of YouTube and libertarian-leaning web communities everywhere - and the only candidate to not shy away from the Republican YouTube debates. With every debate he steadily gains funds from small donors and polling percentages. It is improbable that he will win the Republican nomination, but if he did, his support would be from grassroot sources far removed from the traditional Republican base.

In contrast, Hillary Clinton only deviates from the standard electoral playbook in only two respects - her gender and her already remarkably close contact with the White House. Every word out of her mouth is carefully parsed and chosen for maximum spin and palatability. Obama and Edwards, her only serious rivals, are somewhat more daring in their rhetoric and promises, but no more so than you would expect of career politicians trying to move up from second and third place. Her Washingtonian reputation reached its peak recently at YearlyKos, when she actually defended lobbying. While she might be more honest than her competitors, one could not ask for a more serious disconnect with the disaffected American voter. I therefore invite the reader to consider the possibility, however remote, that we could see the following. Hillary Clinton, the consummate insider, vs. Ron Paul, the career outsider. I know how most people on this site would vote, but I ask you to honestly consider how two such different campaigns might play in a general election. Naturally the bases would support their candidates (and/or oppose the other) as usual, but there would be real meaningful difference between the establishment and the anti-establishment, which is where the real battle would be waged. Would Hillary's history and political acumen help or hurt her? Would Paul's unconventional politics sway new voters or dissuade existing ones?
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Poll: Who'd win in the general election?
Hillary Clinton
21%
94 votes

Ron Paul
78%
340 votes

434 votes
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:29 am | #

BREAKING: Works by Monet and Brueghel Stolen by Armed Thieves
http://www.reuters.com/article/e...&rpc=22& sp=true
Armed thieves marched into an open museum in the southern French city of Nice and stole four paintings by Impressionists Monet and Sisley, and Flemish painter Jan Brueghel the Elder, police said on Monday.
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Like the diamond rape at Antwerp, this makes no fucking sense as being anything less than a huge inside job including the insurance companies, security companies, the press.

Who gets screwed...art viewers, insurance rates, more surveillance police power.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:19 am | #

Hitler Secretly Listened to Jewish & Russian Albums
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle2211203.ece
Adolf Hitler, the most notorious champion of Richard Wagner and “racially pure” German music, banished Jewish and Russian musicians from the concert halls of the Third Reich — but apparently listened secretly to their work, it was discovered when his ‘Best Of' discs turned up in a dead Russian soldier’s attic.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:17 am | #

>>>>>DAILYKOS:2008: Hillary Clinton vs. Ron Paul?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/6/205111/ 3638
The strongest Democrat is Hillary Clinton, arguably the biggest insider to run for office in years. And the candidate with the most vibrant netroots backing is a Republican, Ron Paul. What if? Scroll down to cast your vote!
________________________________________
Who'd win in the general election?

Hillary Clinton
22%

94 votes
Ron Paul
78%
339 votes

433 votes
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WAKE UP!!!! WAKE UP!!! WAKE UP!!!

This is on a LIBERAL BLOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:17 am | #

LewRockwell.com Gives Up Tax Exempt Status To Keep Fighting for Ron Paul
http://dailypaul.com/node/1138
Look, Blumert," the lawyer told me. "There's nothing complex here. Ron Paul is a big problem for you people." So I responded: BLUMERT: You can ’t imagine how strange that sounds. Ron is a problem only to the moribund political establishment, and their cowardly media. At LewRockwell.com (LRC) we revere Ron Paul and regard him as a modern day Thomas Jefferson
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:13 am | #

Air Force Draws Weekend Cyberwarriors From Microsoft, Cisco
http://www.wired.com/politics/se...s/2007/08/ 262nd
"We must be prepared to defeat our enemies by using combined arms -- air, ground, sea, space, and cyber weapons systems."
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:13 am | #

Who Had More Supporters in Iowa - Mitt Romney or Ron Paul? You Decide.
http://dailypaul.com/node/1142
Looks like there's a ton more Paul supporters, they pwn the Mitt guys. But wait, look at the biased old media coverage; that's weird, they make it look like Paul had one lonely supporter... Bias anyone?
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:12 am | #

The FBI Can’t Link Bin Laden to 9/11? Why Is This Not News?
http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive...s-this-not- news
The statement saying the FBI had no hard evidence was released in June of 2006. The implication is that the FBI doesn ’t believe the video constitutes hard evidence of Bin Laden’s involvement.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:12 am | #

Ron Paul's Wise Foreign Policy
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8...rig8/ fisk5.html
While Dr. Paul has sometimes mentioned it, I don t think his introduction of two bills in particular can be stressed enough. The bills, had they been adopted and passed, might have allowed the U.S. to avoid the disasters in Afghanistan and Iraq and more than likely would have by now resulted in the capture of Osama bin Laden
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:11 am | #

HONK if you love Ron Paul! [Video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?v=Klj- 9Dtm9PM
On an overpass, a Youtuber films a family of Ron Paul supporters getting honks from cars.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 2:11 am | #

Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 12:34 am | #
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>>>>>>>>>Massive ULF ‘Blast’ Detected In US Bridge Collapse Catastrophe August 2, 2007
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/in...m/ index1026.htm
Reports from Russia’s Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics located in Irkutsk are reporting today that their Siberian Solar Radio Telescope (SSRT) detected a ‘massive’ ultra low frequency (ULF) ‘blast’ emanating from Latitude: 45° 00' North Longitude: 93° 15' West at the ‘exact’ moment, and location, of a catastrophic collapse of a nearly 2,000 foot long bridge in Minneapolis, Minnesota. To the horrific destruction of the Interstate 35W Bridge which spanned the Mississippi River we can read as reported by the Star Tribune News Service:

"The 1,907-foot bridge fell into the Mississippi River and onto roadways below. The span was packed with rush hour traffic, and dozens of vehicles fell with the bridge leaving scores of dazed commuters scrambling for their lives. Nine people were confirmed dead as of 4 a.m. today. Sixty were taken to hospitals and 20 people were still missing this morning. Authorities said they expected the death toll to rise."

Russian Military reports state that the total collapse of such a massive bridge, and in the absence of evidence linking its destruction to terrorist activity, could only have been accomplished by an acoustic weapon, of which the United States Military is known to possess. These reports further state that one of the United States primary research organizations into acoustic weapons research is Augsburg College, and which is located in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and most importantly less than 1 mile from the Interstate 35W Bridge collapse. To the exact reason of why, and what exactly happened in this catastrophe we can only speculate, but, with what is known about the United States past history of using sophisticated weapons on their own citizens for ‘research’ purposes it certainly lies in the realm of possibility that this horrific tragedy is rooted in the use of ULF weapons.

To the past usage of these new types of weapons we can read even back into the 1980’s of the United States research into their use as reported by the CNN News Service:

"Imagine the implications of a weapon with no visible trace -- a weapon that could knock out tanks, ships, and planes as fast as the speed of light. The same technology, with modifications, could disorient and even tranquilize military personnel, rendering them virtually helpless in the battle zone. These are the new weapons of war we will examine in this series. For the past 40 years, the world has been riveted by the threat of nuclear war, and more recently by the prospect of space defenses using lasers and other modern technologies. Lightning is the most dramatic form of energy to be found in nature. Scientists have succeeded in creating limited types of artificial lightning. And some think that these could be the forerunners of a new type of directed-energy weapon, part of a family of weapons that operate within the radio frequency segment of the electromagnetic spectrum, and are thus referred to as radio frequency weapons."

To the dangers of ULF weapons being used against civilians we can read the warnings of Dr. Rauni Leena Kilde, MD, the former Chief Medical Officer for Lapland (northern Finland), who warned in 1999:

"When the use of electromagnetic fields, extra-low (ELF) and ultra-low (ULF) frequencies and microwaves aimed deliberately at certain individuals, groups, and even the general population to cause diseases, disorientation, chaos and physical and emotional pain breaks into the awareness of the general population, a public outcry is inevitable."
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[Sane Note: I do not agree with the last paragraph of the article at all, I do however believe that the $1.6 Trillion bill to improve US infrastructure is a major reason for this false flag attack. I also feel that the NAFTA SuperHighway is another reason. I further do not know if it had to be an energy weapon, however the lack of independent investigation makes it difficult to evaluate how this false flag occured.]
To the exact reason of why the United States would be targeting Minneapolis with such a massive ULF ‘blast’ we can find in the exact neighborhoods that surround the Interstate 35W Bridge, and which are home to one of the largest Muslim populations in the United States, including over 30,000 Somalis who are outraged by the US sponsored invasion of their home Nation by Ethiopian forces. For the American people as a whole, this catastrophe provides yet another example of the consequences of their allowing their Military Forces to gain total control over their economy and lives, and which history has long shown leads always towards total destruction.

[Ed. Note: The United States government actively seeks to find, and silence, any and all opinions about the United States except those coming from authorized government and/or affiliated sources, of which we are not one. No interviews are granted and very little personal information is given about our contributors, or their sources, to protect their safety.]
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:20 am | #

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>>>>>>Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Does Not Disclose Hillary Clinton Conflict Of Interest In WP/ABC Iowa Poll That Ranked Ron Paul Second To Last
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From Washington Post:
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Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project.
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Selzer and Company Lists Wal-Mart as one of their top customers and promotes that they use "art" as well as facts when creating polls.
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J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
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Hillary Clinton Served On Wal-Mart Board Of Directors For 6 Years.
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Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart for a Six-year tenure
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/2...f3a9c40& ei=5070
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Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Never Disclosed This Relationship And Obvious Conflict Of Interest.
This shows that not only is Hillary Clinton have the capability to be connected to companies that can manipulate elections on various levels, she audaciously does not disclose these connections. Reminds me of Bush, Arbusto, and Bin Laden.
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Because of Ron Paul's consistent stand on the Iraq war [the largest issue facing Americans], he has been seen as the only GOP candidate that can beat front runner Hillary Clinton.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07candefeat.htm
http://www.gambling911.com/Onlin...aul- 052207.html
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../25/ 289229.aspx
http://www.buchanan.org/blog/?p=787
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au...ent/2007/06/12/
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This answers any question of motif as to why Hillary would hide conflicts of interest between her and the Washington Post/ABC Iowa Poll that was used to:
1]Present an image of who is in the upper and lower tier of GOP Presidential Candidates so that more attention by the audience is given to those at the supposed upper tier.
2]Somehow justify Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos [another obvious conflict of interest-but a disclosed one] only allowing a total of 2 minutes to Dr. Ron Paul in a 90 minute debate. He even revealed to all the viewers that he controlled the "green light" which timed candidates responses.
3]Overlook the prevention of Dr. Ron Paul to present his argument regarding healthcare [he is the only physician running and might have some information for the American people on this topic] and taxes [where he always reveals the illegal inflation tax that other candidates will not mention].
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These obviously powerful and compelling methods of creating artificial barriers in the election process should be disclosed to the American people so that our entire presidential election process is not compromised further than we have seen in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006. To see clearly whether or not we are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, this might be the first place to investigate
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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:19 am | #

and then there was one....
Good night
and
Good luck
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 1:17 am | #

Only two of us here.
Hmmmmmm.........
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 1:13 am | #

Ron Paul Wins Drudge Report Iowa GOP Debate Poll
http://votewritein.blogspot.com/...t-iowa- gop.html
Following the GOP debate in Iowa yesterday DrudgeReport.com had their usual poll asking readers who won the debate. Below are the results of that poll which was pulled down sometime between 6:30pm EST and 8:00pm EST.
sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 12:38 am | #

Massive ULF ‘Blast’ Detected In US Bridge Collapse Catastrophe

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/in...m/ index1026.htm

You need to scroll down a bit for this story.
Anonymous | 08.07.07 - 12:34 am | #

Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 2:17 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 12:31 am | #

JBird...

CONCERNING ROMNEY DROPPING THE 9/11 WHISPER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEABTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...h?v=3rSsv- Ncfa0

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sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 11:21 pm | #

I am loading match .308 moly to break in a buddies new savage bull barrel. This week .223 and .44 and .45........never have too much.
And 200 more .300 win mag match @200 grain HPBT. All match loads. Same stuff I did under one inch 4 shot group at 600 yards with. Get ready.
There's a storm coming.
Pretty good show on Alex today. On now.
Henry Bowman | 08.06.07 - 11:02 pm | #

Anti-semitism: against favoritism toward Jews.

Now why the hell would someone go to jail for not being for favoritism toward anyone!?

You know people are so fucked up in there heads they deserve what they get for being so damm stupid.
cuda | 08.06.07 - 8:51 pm | #

and NAZI-ISREAL uses the "youre anti semitic" smokescreen all the time. they are not JEWISH,
they are NAZI's posing as JEWS.
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 9:32 pm | #

I read this and thought it was interesting so I put it up for fun.
What does the term antisemitism mean?
Semitism means favoritism toward Jews (or semetic people)
Anti: Against
Anti-semitism: against favoritism toward Jews.

Now why the hell would someone go to jail for not being for favoritism toward anyone!?

You know people are so fucked up in there heads they deserve what they get for being so damm stupid.
cuda | 08.06.07 - 8:51 pm | #

I can shoot a walnut out of a tree.
I know for a fact that I can shoot an asshole in the neck.
Aim for the head man, the Bastards wear body armor!
oldman | 08.06.07 - 8:05 pm | #

with God as my witness, if that Bastard Bush puts troops on the streets of my town there will be a gun fight.
All of my family and friends live out in the country.
We live in the Ozark mountains.
If they come for us, it will be a gun battle.
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 8:00 pm | #

grease your guns boys!
we're gonna need em
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 7:56 pm | #

Alex says the gov. is in la la land.
I laughed my ass off.
Alex is right.
Fuck Bush
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 7:51 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...807_b_Yahoo.htm

Congress probes Yahoo! for helping China imprison reporter

oh doesnt that sound nice.. fookin hipocrits!!
they just passed "el busho's" super spying program against the American people but theyre going to pretend they give a damn by "probing" YAHOO over someone being imprisoned in CHINA?! you know what, congress needs to dig a deep hole, crawl into it and pull the dirt in over themselves.
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 7:15 pm | #

part 2 :

meantime, back in time, to NAZI GERMANY...
wealthier people (inclusive to wealthier jewish people) were allowed to leave NAZI GERMANY, but the only allowed destination is now known as ISREAL, where the NAZI's had total control. the area was named Isreal AFTER WW2. the US had operation paperclip to bring NAZI ROCKET SCIENTISTS, and SOCIAL ENGINEERS (propaganda and brainwashing artists) here to America, they have played a major part in our POLITICS AND NEWS MEDIA ever since. (Henry Kissinger as an example?)
why do you think the US government gives NAZI ISREAL anything they want?
maybe because theyre part of the SAME NAZI MACHINE?

and back to the present:
politicians destroying the constitution as fast as they can, corporations moving overseas leaving the people unemployed, the prison industry the fastest growing business in the US anymore. Cheney giving halliburton/kbr a 385 million per year no-bid contract to build 800+ NAZI STYLE concentration camps for FEMA on American soil..
-as bush tries again and again to pass amnesty for 30 million illegal immigrants, contrary to laws that have been in place long before his own grandpa was busted for being a traitor for funding nazi's.

all the information and a whole lot more IS available, but you wont get it in the TV nightly news, for yourself and others, you need to look into it all for yourself.
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 2:17 pm | #

heres another might be worth spreadin around:

Member since: June 03, 2007
Total points: 165 (Level 1)
Points earned this week:
--% Best answer

informed
S
heres the basics:

prescott (grandpa) BUSH was busted along with several others funding NAZI GERMANY.
BUSH SENIOR was CIA and ran Air America, a private airline, (just like the movie with Mel Gibson, why do ya think they try to demonize Mel?) trading weapons for opium.
when uncle RONNY REAGAN was president and BUSH SENIOR was president, we had oliver north / noriega (we PUT in power) trading weapons for cocaine, with shipments being flown into MENA ARKANSAS where BILLYBOY CLINTON was governor. NANCY REAGAN got on the podium with the "just say no" campaign, reverse psychology advertizing drugs for SOMEONE who had a LOT to sell.. allright ?
(remember john hinkley shot reagan, hinkley family is bush buddies)
BUSH SENIOR as president, had set up the TALIBAN to grow a lot of OPIUM, they proposed an OIL PIPELINE through their turf, when they were going to get a lesser cut, the TALIBAN BURNED the OPIUM CROPS and were demonized by the media. the US GOVT, put SADDAM HUSSEIN into power back when as well. (like noriega)
when CLINTON was president he was near being run up a flagpole for things when he was governor.. investigations were underway, and he dodged that bullet by marching out monica lewinski and a stained blue dress!!
there is ZERO difference between the BUSH's and CLINTONS, they are DRUG DEALING MURDEROUS SCUM !! bush seniors little buddy donald rumsfeld, and dick (tater) cheney.. former CEO of HALLIBURTON.. gave halliburton 385 million a year contracts to build over 800 FEMA CAMPS, NAZI STYLE CONCENTRATION CAMPS ON AMERICAN SOIL !! halliburton just moved to dubai, and they built the oil refineries that were on the back of saddam's money btw. is it begining to make sense yet ?
please start learning about politics, drugs, the police state.
the prison industry the fastest growing in the nation, all by design. I never heard of crack before I saw it on the NEWS
(yes the mainstream media is complicit to these criminals)

if hillary gets into office it will be more business as usual, destroying America as fast as possible.
daddy's little war criminal dubya.. signed the USA into the SPP to make a North American Union , like the EU (european union) ILLEGALLY !! TREASONOUSLY !!
anything the "corporations" want.. but behind the corporate smokescreens, its a handfull of "elite global bankers" whose philosophy is all about fascism and genocide.
if you think this is all tinfoil hattery, you need to start researching it all yourself.

Source(s):

the clinton chronicles
JFK to BUSH connection
www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 1:38 pm | #

>>>>>>Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Does Not Disclose Hillary Clinton Conflict Of Interest In WP/ABC Iowa Poll That Ranked Ron Paul Second To Last
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From Washington Post:
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Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project.
______________________________
Selzer and Company Lists Wal-Mart as one of their top customers and promotes that they use "art" as well as facts when creating polls.
______________________________
J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
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Hillary Clinton Served On Wal-Mart Board Of Directors For 6 Years.
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Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart for a Six-year tenure
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/2...05/2...f3a9c40& ei=5070
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Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Never Disclosed This Relationship And Obvious Conflict Of Interest.
This shows that not only is Hillary Clinton have the capability to be connected to companies that can manipulate elections on various levels, she audaciously does not disclose these connections. Reminds me of Bush, Arbusto, and Bin Laden.
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Because of Ron Paul's consistent stand on the Iraq war [the largest issue facing Americans], he has been seen as the only GOP candidate that can beat front runner Hillary Clinton.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07candefeat.htm
http://www.gambling911.com/Onlin...aul- 052207.html
http://www.godlikeproductions.co...s.co...=8/3/07& forum=1
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../25/ 289229.aspx
http://www.buchanan.org/blog/?p=787
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au...ent/2007/06/12/
http://groups.google.com/group/a...roup/ a...1fe3f1? lnk=raot
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This answers any question of motif as to why Hillary would hide conflicts of interest between her and the Washington Post/ABC Iowa Poll that was used to:
1]Present an image of who is in the upper and lower tier of GOP Presidential Candidates so that more attention by the audience is given to those at the supposed upper tier.
2]Somehow justify Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos [another obvious conflict of interest-but a disclosed one] only allowing a total of 2 minutes to Dr. Ron Paul in a 90 minute debate. He even revealed to all the viewers that he controlled the "green light" which timed candidates responses.
______________________________
These obviously powerful and compelling methods of creating artificial barriers in the election process should be disclosed to the American people so that our entire presidential election process is not compromised further than we have seen in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006. To see clearly whether or not we are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, this might be the first place to investigate.

SANE's post was so great there I've copy/paste reposted it at least a dozen other places this morning. TY SANE !!
Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 1:34 pm | #

More people need to understand what a collapse actually looks like.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:40 pm |
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Well, I can't be of much help when it comes to a natural collapse BUT take a look at this collection of CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS set to music (poison) // Enjoy (that may not be the right word):
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/17...732/demolition/
jbrid1138 | 08.06.07 - 1:30 pm | #

That Romney is a jerk. Did you guys catch him trying his best to interrupt Ron Paul by speaking out of turn and saying "Yeah, but what about 9/11?"

I wish Ron Paul had stopped and taken advantage of that invite and off loaded everything there is to know about 9/11 -- all the scientific 'explosive' evidence regarding the collapse of the three buildings at the WTC site, the round hole inside the West wall of the Pentagon, a large number of the hijackers still alive, the 8-mile debris field for flight 93 a flight that was 'supposedly' crashed, the obvious stand down by Cheney and Myers and Rumsfeld, the President sitting and reading about a pet goat while the secret service looked on undisturbed that our country was then under attack or where or who the next target might be, four allegedly hijacked airplanes and no evidence to support even where one can be identified -- those kind of things about 9/11.

And then for good measure since Guiliani was standing on the same damn stage // remind everyone that Guiliani clearly stated that he had advance knowledge that the towers were coming down, something that had never before in history before or after 9/11 ever happened before. Clearly said he knew on the day of 9/11 but now seems to have forgotten he said such a remark. Might as well throw in all that advance knowledge our government possessed prior to 9/11 yet did nothing to prepare or prevent such an attack.

If he (Romney) meant that about 9/11 (??) -- then Ron Paul should have knocked his socks off with it. Maybe then the jerk (Romney) wouldn't look quite so arrogant and pompous (as in pompous ass) and try and speak out of turn about something he only thinks he knows. Or do you think he just might, being a favorite among the in-crowd.

No, I think he's just a creep like a couple others standing there upon that stage running for the highest office in our land. Once gangsters got hold of the controls, they feel they can do any damn thing -- even be our President.

Change that attitude and vote Ron Paul 2008.
jbrid1138 | 08.06.07 - 1:20 pm | #

Poor Construction - Building Collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...uTu59fv7V0& NR=1
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Notice how it all happened at the speed of gravity

Notice that if fell into its footprint

Notice the "cauliflower" smoke clouds rather than the dark mist.

Notice how all the evidence vanished

Notice the pools of molten metal

Notice that this building was constucted with a reinforced core just like the WTC

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Yeah I know it is a small shoddy building, but that might be the point. Even this shoddy building seems to be stronger as it falls than the WTC was on 9/11/2001

More people need to understand what a collapse actually looks like.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:40 pm | #

The 41 House Dems Who Voted For Bush's Domestic Spying Program
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/5/01943/ 25391
41 House Democrats voted to roll over on the eavesdropping amendment that the White House demanded be added to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The bill, Orwellianly named the Protect America Act, passed 227-183, with 181 Democrats and two Republicans opposed. These are the Dems who ... failed us. Who failed our country ...
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:03 pm | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...60807Nadler.htm

CLASSIC !!!
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Sees Things | 08.06.07 - 10:52 am | #

Congressman Ron Paul's Secret Revealed
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8...ig8/ haman3.html
The secret behind Ron Paul's enthusiastic supporters -- his principles and his personal integrity.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 9:30 am | #

Ron Paul endorsements:
http://rationalactivism.com/ronp...l-endorsements/
Michael Badnarik - 2004 Libertarian Party Presidential candidate
Chuck Baldwin - 2004 Constitution Party Vice-Presidential candidate
Jim Clymer - Constitution Party National Chair
Jim Guest - Missouri State Representative, District 5
Barbara Hagan - Long time right-to-life activist and former two-term New Hampshire state representative
Steve Kubby - 2008 Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate
Karen Kwiatkowski - Retired U.S. Air Force Lt. Colonel
Michael Peroutka - 2004 Constitution Party Presidential Candidate
Justin Raimondo - 1996 Republican Congressional candidate in California and editorial director of Antiwar.com
Michael Charles Smith - 2008 Republican Party Presidential candidate
United Republicans of California
Walter Block, Ph.D. - Professor of Economics at Loyola University and Fellow at the Mises Institute
Gary Galles, Ph.D. - Professor of Economics at Pepperdine University
Thomas Woods, Ph.D. - Author and resident historian at the Mises Institute
Vox Day - Political columnist
Bill Dumas - Hollywood producer
John Derbyshire - Political columnist
Alex Jones - radio host
Devvy Kidd - Political columnist
Aaron Russo - Hollywood film producer
Gary B. Smith - Fox News economics commentator
Joseph Sobran - Political columnist
Andrew Napolitano - Fox Senior Judicial Analyst and Superior Court Judge for New Jersey
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 9:27 am | #

"The US is really beyond reason now.
It is beyond our imagining to know what they are going to do next and what they are prepared to do.
There is only one comparison: Nazi Germany."
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at least sane has the true scope of this country.
thanks sane.
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 8:56 am | #

>>>>>>Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Does Not Disclose Hillary Clinton Conflict Of Interest In WP/ABC Iowa Poll That Ranked Ron Paul Second To Last
______________________________
From Washington Post:
______________________________
Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project.
______________________________
Selzer and Company Lists Wal-Mart as one of their top customers and promotes that they use "art" as well as facts when creating polls.
______________________________
J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
______________________________
Hillary Clinton Served On Wal-Mart Board Of Directors For 6 Years.
______________________________
Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart for a Six-year tenure
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/2...f3a9c40& ei=5070
______________________________
Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Never Disclosed This Relationship And Obvious Conflict Of Interest.
This shows that not only is Hillary Clinton have the capability to be connected to companies that can manipulate elections on various levels, she audaciously does not disclose these connections. Reminds me of Bush, Arbusto, and Bin Laden.
______________________________
Because of Ron Paul's consistent stand on the Iraq war [the largest issue facing Americans], he has been seen as the only GOP candidate that can beat front runner Hillary Clinton.
______________________________
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...07candefeat.htm
http://www.gambling911.com/Onlin...aul- 052207.html
http://www.godlikeproductions.co...=8/3/07& forum=1
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../25/ 289229.aspx
http://www.buchanan.org/blog/?p=787
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au...ent/2007/06/12/
http://groups.google.com/group/a...1fe3f1? lnk=raot
______________________________
This answers any question of motif as to why Hillary would hide conflicts of interest between her and the Washington Post/ABC Iowa Poll that was used to:
1]Present an image of who is in the upper and lower tier of GOP Presidential Candidates so that more attention by the audience is given to those at the supposed upper tier.
2]Somehow justify Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos [another obvious conflict of interest-but a disclosed one] only allowing a total of 2 minutes to Dr. Ron Paul in a 90 minute debate. He even revealed to all the viewers that he controlled the "green light" which timed candidates responses.
______________________________
These obviously powerful and compelling methods of creating artificial barriers in the election process should be disclosed to the American people so that our entire presidential election process is not compromised further than we have seen in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006. To see clearly whether or not we are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, this might be the first place to investigate
______________________________

These
______________________________
Are we going to let Hillary Clinton control the GOP Presidential Candidate for President in 2008?
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:28 am | #

DIFFERENCE.

Vietnam was a scheme for the MIC and profiteers. This was obvious, televised, news media, spoken of in schools of higher education.
Demonstrated against,marched against,Etc. The draft was in effect, millions of innocents were killed, and our troops in the thousands.Students were killed at Kent State Univeristy, demonstrators were beaten, D Elsberg came forward. And most impotantly, JFK & RFK both were murdered soley becasue they were against the war, they would not join the team.. JFK had begun to mention withdrawal and RFk was outspoken against the war.
Fact we knew, though no one was ever charged with a crime for profits gained and power manipulated. 10 years to bring it to a stop.
Human Sacrifice for power and money.
911, WMD's, who in their right mind and soul would even consider Taliban and his camel jocks pulled of 911 after witnesing the demolition.After seeing the photos of the Pentagon.
Where were the WMD's, they did not exist. Yet our bombs are murdering a population of innocents, over 850,000 dead . And our volunteer troops with less rights than those drafted in Vietnam. The news media is silent and spineless, controled, no funerals are shown, dissenters have been threatened, mercenarys are hired, our congress both Democrat and Republican are moraly useless and have betrayed their oath.( Party seperation is indistinguishable)
The military upper echelon is bowing to their political masters. They are moral cowards, and betrayed the oath to protect the const, and defend against domestic enemies.
It is human sacrifice, the word is getting out, people are waking up, but i fear the ultiamte solution to this Elite criminal gang will test mens souls.
chris jones | 08.06.07 - 8:22 am | #

Complete Apollo photo archive now available after 40 years
http://asunews.asu.edu/node/730
For nearly 40 years, the complete photographic record from the Apollo moon project sat in a freezer at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, almost untouched, until now. A new digital archive – created through a collaboration between ASU and NASA – is making available on the Internet high-resolution scans of original Apollo flight films.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:06 am | #

>>>>>>Ron Paul at debate on ABC ONLY 2 min in 90 min Debate - Aug 5, 2007
First 2 segments on ABC debate with George Stephanopoulos...Ron Paul ABC stephanopoulos debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=NKNaFGDuuUg
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Rudy Has No Clue About Health Care 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?v=9qVrokl3- 2I
Rudy Lies About His Second Amendment And Pro Life Stand 52 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h? v=YJfbQh547o4
Gov. Romney: Is Clueless About Military [Ron Paul has most active duty supporters], Economy [He inherits $300 million, how does he know?], and Family [Separates children from families in African juevenille rape rooms] 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h? v=vvtJDBnm0O4
Gov. Romney: My Biggest Mistake was thinking people won't see what a fraud I am 23 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=H0te3KeuZaU
Gov. Romney: I Think The President Has Kept Us Safe Because I Do Not Read The Intelligence Reports 32 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eqbx7vk1MQg
Gov. Romney: Fix It First So I Can Break Something New 53 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=u44cnqqqdS4
Gov. Romney: I Think Pakistan Is A Moderate Muslim State 2 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (4 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h? v=tXeclPzdlno
Gov. Romney: I Will Continue To Believe In Outlandish Conspiracy Theories About Radical Jihad As An Excuse To Nuke The Middle East And Lock Up American Citizens 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eYZHITSAdWM
Gov. Romney: I Am Financially Personally Responsible For My Healthcare As I Have $300 Million 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h? v=WnX5ZsmRgT8
Gov. Romney: We Need A Surge of Support For Me That Is Why I Purchase Poll Results Like the One In Iowa 38 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h? v=2e9rKP0Ssqk
Gov. Romney On Sen. Obama: Jane Fonda To Doctor Strangelove Is The Extent Of My Simple Mind, Proving I cannot Tackle Complex Issues 37 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (5 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h? v=z80ss1F6FV8
Gov Romney Backpeddles On Sen. Brownback's Factual Statements 4 min - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FPboc61AZes

GE/AOL/Disney/NewsCorp/NationalAmusement [CNN/CNNHeadline/MSNBC/ABC/NBC/CNBC/FOX/FoxNews/ CBS] Blackout all news of Republican Debate.

Anyone who says there is no conspiracy against sovereignty and The Constitution has lost their fricking mind.
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Raw Footage:
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 1 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h? v=XcWHyxAj68o
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 2 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h?v=EAklv1Z- ZEg
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 3 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h? v=lgRuuWZKrbg
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 4 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h? v=0ZVz09rE2sA
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 5 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=TvCXNQ6D8R4
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 6 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?v=KKYv- QFXkXU
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:04 am | #

>>>ABC EXPOSED AS CRIMINALLY MISLEADING TO FIX AMERICAN ELECTIONS

>>>>>>>>ABC Cites Rigged Washington Post Poll to Discredit Ron Paul
http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/08...redit-ron-paul/
Rat Says: This is comical, to open the debate and introduce the candidates, ABC uses a poll from the Washington Post that actually had a sample size of 100 !!! No doubt these cherry picked samples are not exactly representative of the voting population. Over 70% of those questioned have never used a computer to access their chosen candidate’s web sites. Yet ABC quotes these numbers which have Ron Paul at 2%, as if they were from a legitimate poll. This is criminally misleading, ABC is trying to decide our election.

Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project. *= less than 0.5 percent
__________________________________________________ ____
1. (FOR SCREENING PURPOSES) Are you registered to vote in Iowa at your present address, or not?
7/31/07
Yes - 100
No - 0
No Opinion - 0
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10. So far in the Republican campaign, have you (ITEM)?
a. Been called on the telephone by any of the campaigns 63 36 *
Yes - 63
No - 36
No Opinion - *
b. Attended a campaign event 23 77 *
Yes - 23
No - 77
No Opinion - *
c. Contributed money to any of the presidential candidates 10 90 *
Yes - 10
No - 90
No Opinion - *
d. Visited any of the candidates’ Web sites on the Internet 28 72 0
Yes - 28
No - 72
No Opinion - 0
e. Received e-mails from any of the campaigns 24 74 1
Yes - 24
No - 74
No Opinion - 1
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TNS of Horsham, Pa.
http://www.tnstelecoms.com/ [Subsidiary of TNS Website - CAUTION: Their Main Website for TNS has Phishisng Spyware, Leechware, do not go to it.]
TNS Telecoms is the world's largest telecom market information company. TNS Telecoms is part of TNS, whose international network of more than 100 offices provides market information services to national and multi-national organizations in over 80 countries. Building on our ongoing syndicated data collection, TNS Telecoms offers a variety of products for the business and residential telecom marketplace. Our clients, which include major worldwide telecom service providers, rely on us for accurate information from an unbiased perspective to help them stay ahead in this complex, fast-changing industry. We distinguish ourselves as the source for the greatest depth, breadth, and scope of telecom market intelligence on local, long distance, wireless, satellite/cable TV, Internet, and broadband issues. Our innovative solutions, combined with strategic partnerships, are helping telecom businesses answer the tough questions facing the telecommunications industry.

J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
_____________________________________________
The whole poll is comical, look at how 73% of those polls were satisfied with the Republican candidates.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 8:00 am | #

1984 BBC film on Nuclear War
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash....in/ threads.html
Threads is a 1984 BBC television docudrama depicting the effects of a nuclear war on the United Kingdom and its aftermath.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:58 am | #

To: The American People - From: Saddam Hussein - 07/2006
http://www.sloopo.com/index.php/...hussein-072006/
Long letter written right before his death... somewhat interesting read.
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Saddam Hussein’s Letter to the American People

…People of America, the misfortunes that have afflicted you and afflicted our Arab Nation and within it our heroic Iraqi people – including the breakdown of America’s standing and reputation – were only caused by the reckless behavior of your government and by pressure from Zionism and power centers that influenced the government to commit those crimes and scandalous actions for specific ends that have nothing to do with the interest of the American peoples. The massacres and blood that now flows in the streets and countryside of Iraq in torrents – the responsibility for that falls on America before all others. You know, or rather you have now come to learn, that neither the stooges whom the American forces brought in on board their aircraft or as shamefaced presents aboard their tanks, nor Iran, which pushed and still pushes forward those who support it and whom they support, would be able to cause the bloodshed, or the destruction of the honor, and property of our people and our state had not America undertaken the aggression and invasion and issued the orders. It is still issuing orders in the Green Zone. Therefore America bears the burden of all those crimes and outrages. So, will you put an end to what is going on by using the methods of direct truth without evasion and digression? Or will you invite the machine of death to continue to eat away at the flesh of Iraqis and the flesh of Americans without doing anything to resolve this?

It is your historical responsibility, esteemed ladies and gentlemen. If you reform, you could save what remains of the standing and reputation of America and its legitimate interests. If you do nothing, you will be keeping silent over something evil. “God grant us patient perseverance and let us die as Muslims.” [Qur’an, 7:126]

People of America, the wars that your government promotes in the world – one of them being the war in Iraq – with input from certain centers of power – which you know better than we – are not in the interests of the American people. You know better than many how you paid in blood so that you might liberate yourselves from British colonialism and after that how the United States of America was unified and what rivers of blood were shed in order for that to come about. So, esteemed ladies and gentlemen, how do you accept this interference that abases America before it abases Iraq? How can you accept not only the invasion but becoming mired in the internal affairs of Iraq? You know that Iraq is a land of prophets, messengers, and righteous figures. You know that Baghdad is the fourth holiest city in the Arab homeland – after Mecca, al-Madinah, and Jerusalem – in the sight of all of the Islamic world and all of our Arab Nation. How can one imagine that Iraq could reconcile itself to colonial rule, even if it comes, this time, under another name and with other slogans? Save your country, esteemed ladies and gentlemen, and leave Iraq.

Peace.

God is greatest. God is greatest.

[signed] Saddam Hussein, President of the Republic of Iraq and Commander in Chief of the Mujahid Armed Forces.
7 July 2006.
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Source of entire letter:
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m24800
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I have no knowledge of the validity and it almost seems too scripted [like White House MSM].

No matter whether or not Saddam wrote it, the words are compelling.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:58 am | #

Go Ron Paul!
Louis | 08.06.07 - 7:57 am | #

Al-Jazeera offers News Diversity in the U.S
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/ f834e096...00779fd2ac.html
Ignored or shunned by almost every cable provider in the US, the al-Jazeera English news channel has turned to the internet in an effort to reach American viewers – with much more success.
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This is how bad the MSM has gotten, people are now going to AL-Jazeera to get a flavor of anything besides WHite House scripted news.

The MSM is a communist state run media.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:54 am | #

As Economy booms , UAE set to unveil a Billion Dollar Grand Mosque (Pics)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zay...129857975/show/
Ex-Ruler of UAE Sheikh Zayed Bin Sultan Al Nahyan is buried at same site.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:52 am | #

The Militarization of Amerikan Police
http://legalliberty.blogspot.com...kan- police.html
Local American police forces are now armed with tanks, rocket launchers, and fully automatic machine guns. Since we know that militaries do not "protect and serve" - they kill people and break things -, it's fair to ask: against whom exactly would your increasingly-militarized neighborhood police officer use a tank? For what purpose?
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:49 am | #

U.S.-French lab in spotlight over foot and mouth
http://uk.reuters.com/article/ to...037131720070805
A U.S.-French pharmaceutical company was at the heart of an investigation by British authorities on Sunday to try to find the source of an outbreak of highly infectious foot and mouth disease.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:47 am | #

centralized government.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.06.07 - 3:34 am | #

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A centralized government is necessary for the survival of its citizens, however, as you mentioned powerfull, a government must maintian militray power of defense only.
Power over its people of the majority is not democracy, it is dictatorship. This Government has raised itself above the people,the commoner, and become demigods.
Bush,( either you with me or against Me)
chris jones | 08.06.07 - 7:47 am | #

>>>Rumsfeld finally gets asked real questions about cover ups and reveals something huge!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...pen-thread-553/
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:44 am | #

I'm telling you Lincoln was not a hero!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.06.07 - 3:36 am | #
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Notwithstanding Lincoln's issues, he was a learned man, was sabatoged in his attempt to end the civil war quickly, and was executed for failing to enslave the American people even further.

In addition, JFK was a fine NWO tool, until he realized more about the Federal Reserve and secret societies' impact on the future of American and was also executed for failing to further enslave the American people.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 7:37 am | #

Perhaps we should cease referring to it as Main Stream Media (MSM), and simply call it what it is Manipulated Media.
Anonymous | 08.06.07 - 7:06 am | #

the president has exerted godlike powers. Time for those powers to be curtailed.

I'm telling you Lincoln was not a hero!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.06.07 - 3:36 am | #

Your information is correct, it is also necessary to mention the the south was affluent due to most part of the use of slaves. This was a moral issue at the time, especialy for northerners of who many were abolishionists.
The issue delivered to the people was in fact the abolishment of slavery. A inhuman cruelty praaticed not only in the south, but in many other countrys as well. By the way it still exists, not only with blacks. Back to my point. The people, Notherners were convinced their cause a noble one, freeing the oppresed, liberating slavery. And yes it was, although other motives were involved. Primarlily money. Behind every war is profit, or in fact war would not exist. Yes, the people , northerners liberated the slaves, this was the note on which the war was played. Again, the South was financialy solvent and independent to the point of concession. The civil war, brother against brother family against family must have been human suffering beyond our understanding today.
The banging of the drums, the rhetoric and the propaganda, to mention the righteous cause was the token banner given to the people. Underneath this were motives the politicians were well aware of.
History taught to our children is Federaly controled,therfor slanted to with images that are not contrary to our Gov.
For example, they will tell children of the savegry of ancient times, wars for gains of power, pillaging, etc. These facts appear to be ancient crimes to the children, it is next to impossible for them to see that the nature of man has not changed. Human sacrifice for profit, blood for wealth and power.
Children a putty in the hands of the usurpers, this is the connection between mind and soul, let them not enter the souls of our youth. As you know the key to control is the mind, the greatest loss is connection to ones soul.
chris jones | 08.06.07 - 6:54 am | #

Delving further into Lincoln’s career as a lawyer, DiLorenzo pointed out how Lincoln served as a railroad lobbyist and represented all the big railroad companies, including Illinois Central on a property-tax case, for which he presented the company with a $5,000 bill. Lincoln also received kickbacks from land deals in Council Bluffs, Iowa.

More significantly, DiLorenzo, in a chapter called “The Politics of the Lincoln Cult,” outlines the political uses of the legend, and how both political parties, Democrats and Republicans, rely on Lincoln as an excuse for bad behavior. DiLorenzo pointed to the work of another scholar, Frank Meyer, who made the case that Lincoln made possible the further trashing of the Constitution, and even established such trashing as a precedent. Almost makes Dick Cheney look like a truthful soul. Almost.

In any case, Lincoln Unmasked sounds and looks like a book that anybody who cares about real American history — not the effluvia served up in public schools — should have on their bookshelf. Indeed, the deification of the president began with Lincoln; ever since, the president has exerted godlike powers. Time for those powers to be curtailed.

I'm telling you Lincoln was not a hero!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.06.07 - 3:36 am | #

In another of the book’s chapters, “The Truth About States’ Rights,” he articulates how the Founding Fathers considered states to be different countries, or a confederation of sovereign states. In their view, the federal government served as a compact of free and independent states. The biggest lie is the notion that states were never sovereign according to the Constitution. It was Alexander Hamilton, chief brains behind the Federalist Party, who put forth the idea that a president enjoyed veto power against all state legislation, and that individuals, rather than states, had signed the Declaration of Independence. Sure, the Declaration begins with “we the people,” but the fuller sentence is “we the people of the states …” In fact, the King of England didn’t sign a treaty with the United States; he signed it with the states. The purpose of such a lie, though, is to realize Hamilton’s dream of a powerful centralized government.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.06.07 - 3:34 am | #

David Irving - Morell The Secret Diaries Of Hitlers Doctor
http://www.scribd.com/word/downl...2? extension=pdf
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 2:01 am | #

ABC News once again tries to “hide” Ron Paul popularity
http://scottdangel.com/blog/?p=10
Just like after the May RNC debate, ABC is at it again.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 1:44 am | #

Exclusive: Proof that New 911 Film "September Clues" is a Fraud!"
http://www.realinsidenews.com/ 91...article010.html
Mike Swenson | Real Inside News
August 5, 2007
A 911 Truth film has recently been released that tries again to prove that "TV Fakery" was used in the orchestration of the attacks of September 11th, 2001. The film, entitled "September Clues", was released by an organization called "Social Service".
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 1:44 am | #

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS...ance/ index.html
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 1:34 am | #

Disabling a sensory organ prompts female mice to act like male mice
http://www.physorg.com/ news10555...s105550190.html
By short-circuiting the sensory organ that detects the chemical cues mice use to attract mates, a team of Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) researchers has prompted female mice to behave like male mice in the throes of courtship.
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Nothing is off the table, not even new gaybomb surgery.
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:05 am | #

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Read this short story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ The...rewfly_Solution
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:42 am | #

A sequel to "National Treasure" is coming out and will be more damage control for the Masons I am sure. They must be depicted as our saviours, since man cannot govern themselves without the rightful direction of the elitist social engineers and their secrets.
Don't Tread On Me | 08.06.07 - 12:18 am | #

All those who think that the intelligence agencies of the various governments of the world are networked at the very top say "Aye"!

This would do a lot to explain the Hegelian script we are watching unfold based on many years of secret societies doing their bidding around the world.....
Don't Tread On Me | 08.06.07 - 12:08 am | #

Ron Paul Supporters Denounce Iowa Diebold Use
http://www.freemarketnews.com/Wo...s.asp? nid=46721
Everything we are all doing is going to be brought to NAUGHT if the Diebold computers are used to STEAL the Straw Poll Election. We're asking all Ron Paul people who vote in the Ames Straw Poll to cast a second "ballot" in our exit poll. IF WE COME UP with 5000 Ron Paul exit poll ballots - the Iowa GOP better not say he only got 2000 votes!
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:01 am | #

Federal Agents Searching People At Indianapolis Bus Stops
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/20...8/3/03736/ 76330
Air Marshals Patting Civilians Down, Looking In Bags, And Performing "behavior" Tests For The Stated Purpose Of Finding Weapons And People Who Are A Threat To Public Safety
sane | Homepage | 08.06.07 - 12:01 am | #

A relatively small clique with power to create money holds mankind hostage. Unfortunately its agenda is to destroy and enslave humanity-using war and education/media as its principal instruments.

Therefore, when it comes to war, we can tune out the rhetoric. All wars are against humanity. They are inherent in the organization of society and in the treason of its leadership. Certainly the next one will be aimed at the United States, in much the same way as Germany. The US already has entered the web like a "great buzzing fly."
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 11:53 pm | #

I was just asking about these folks:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/imag.../ 030807pers.jpg
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:50 pm | #

I am not a murderer. I am not a lunatic. Sane, GAK, I wipe my butt with punks like you.
Dick Cheney | 08.05.07 - 11:14 pm | #
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All lies, nothing new.
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 11:31 pm | #

The Top Secret Document At The Heart Of The Domestic Spying Controversy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...omestic-spying/
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:17 pm | #

I am not a murderer. I am not a lunatic. Sane, GAK, I wipe my butt with punks like you.
Dick Cheney | 08.05.07 - 11:14 pm | #

10 STEPS TO FASCISM

Because Americans like me were born in freedom, we have a hard time even considering that it is possible for us to become as unfree - domestically - as many other nations. Because we no longer learn much about our rights or our system of government - the task of being aware of the constitution has been outsourced from citizens' ownership to being the domain of professionals such as lawyers and professors - we scarcely recognise the checks and balances that the founders put in place, even as they are being systematically dismantled. Because we don't learn much about European history, the setting up of a department of "homeland" security - remember who else was keen on the word "homeland" - didn't raise the alarm bells it might have. It is my argument that, beneath our very noses, George Bush and his administration are using time-tested tactics to close down an open society. It is time for us to be willing to think the unthinkable - as the author and political journalist Joe Conason, has put it, that it can happen here. And that we are further along than we realise. Conason eloquently warned of the danger of American authoritarianism. I am arguing that we need also to look at the lessons of European and other kinds of fascism to understand the potential seriousness of the events we see unfolding in the US.

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
After we were hit on September 11 2001, we were in a state of national shock. Less than six weeks later, on October 26 2001, the USA Patriot Act was passed by a Congress that had little chance to debate it; many said that they scarcely had time to read it. We were told we were now on a "war footing"; we were in a "global war" against a "global caliphate" intending to "wipe out civilisation". There have been other times of crisis in which the US accepted limits on civil liberties, such as during the civil war, when Lincoln declared martial law, and the second world war, when thousands of Japanese-American citizens were interned. But this situation, as Bruce Fein of the American Freedom Agenda notes, is unprecedented: all our other wars had an endpoint, so the pendulum was able to swing back toward freedom; this war is defined as open-ended in time and without national boundaries in space - the globe itself is the battlefield. "This time," Fein says, "there will be no defined end." Creating a terrifying threat - hydra-like, secretive, evil - is an old trick. It can, like Hitler's invocation of a communist threat to the nation's security, be based on actual events (one Wisconsin academic has faced calls for his dismissal because he noted, among other things, that the alleged communist arson, the Reichstag fire of February 1933, was swiftly followed in Nazi Germany by passage of the Enabling Act, which replaced constitutional law with an open-ended state of emergency). Or the terrifying threat can be based, like the National Socialist evocation of the "global conspiracy of world Jewry", on myth. It is not that global Islamist terrorism is not a severe danger; of course it is. I am arguing rather that the language used to convey the nature of the threat is different in a country such as Spain - which has also suffered violent terrorist attacks - than it is in America. Spanish citizens know that they face a grave security threat; what we as American citizens believe is that we are potentially threatened with the end of civilisation as we know it. Of course, this makes us more willing to accept restrictions on our freedoms.

2. Create a gulag
Once you have got everyone scared, the next step is to create a prison system outside the rule of law (as Bush put it, he wanted the American detention centre at Guantánamo Bay to be situated in legal "outer space") - where torture takes place. By the way, the establishment of military tribunals that deny prisoners due process tends to come early on in a fascist shift. Mussolini and Stalin set up such tribunals. On April 24 1934, the Nazis, too, set up the People's Court, which also bypassed the judicial system: prisoners were held indefinitely, often in isolation, and tortured, without being charged with offences, and were subjected to show trials. Eventually, the Special Courts became a parallel system that put pressure on the regular courts to abandon the rule of law in favour of Nazi ideology when making decisions.

3. Develop a thug caste
When leaders who seek what I call a "fascist shift" want to close down an open society, they send paramilitary groups of scary young men out to terrorise citizens. The Blackshirts roamed the Italian countryside beating up communists; the Brownshirts staged violent rallies throughout Germany. This paramilitary force is especially important in a democracy: you need citizens to fear thug violence and so you need thugs who are free from prosecution. Thugs in America? Groups of angry young Republican men, dressed in identical shirts and trousers, menaced poll workers counting the votes in Florida in 2000. If you are reading history, you can imagine that there can be a need for "public order" on the next election day. Say there are protests, or a threat, on the day of an election; history would not rule out the presence of a private security firm at a polling station "to restore public order".

4. Set up an internal surveillance system
In Mussolini's Italy, in Nazi Germany, in communist East Germany, in communist China - in every closed society - secret police spy on ordinary people and encourage neighbours to spy on neighbours. The Stasi needed to keep only a minority of East Germans under surveillance to convince a majority that they themselves were being watched.

5. Harass citizens' groups
The fifth thing you do is related to step four - you infiltrate and harass citizens' groups. It can be trivial: a church in Pasadena, whose minister preached that Jesus was in favour of peace, found itself being investigated by the Internal Revenue Service, while churches that got Republicans out to vote, which is equally illegal under US tax law, have been left alone.

6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
This scares people. It is a kind of cat-and-mouse game. Nicholas D Kristof and Sheryl WuDunn, the investigative reporters who wrote China Wakes: the Struggle for the Soul of a Rising Power, describe pro-democracy activists in China, such as Wei Jingsheng, being arrested and released many times. In a closing or closed society there is a "list" of dissidents and opposition leaders: you are targeted in this way once you are on the list, and it is hard to get off the list.

7. Target key individuals
Threaten civil servants, artists and academics with job loss if they don't toe the line. Mussolini went after the rectors of state universities who did not conform to the fascist line; so did Joseph Goebbels, who purged academics who were not pro-Nazi; so did Chile's Augusto Pinochet; so does the Chinese communist Politburo in punishing pro-democracy students and professors.

8. Control the press
Italy in the 1920s, Germany in the 30s, East Germany in the 50s, Czechoslovakia in the 60s, the Latin American dictatorships in the 70s, China in the 80s and 90s - all dictatorships and would-be dictators target newspapers and journalists. They threaten and harass them in more open societies that they are seeking to close, and they arrest them and worse in societies that have been closed already.

9. Dissent equals treason
Cast dissent as "treason" and criticism as "espionage'. Every closing society does this, just as it elaborates laws that increasingly criminalise certain kinds of speech and expand the definition of "spy" and "traitor". When Bill Keller, the publisher of the New York Times, ran the Lichtblau/Risen stories, Bush called the Times' leaking of classified information "disgraceful", while Republicans in Congress called for Keller to be charged with treason, and rightwing commentators and news outlets kept up the "treason" drumbeat. Some commentators, as Conason noted, reminded readers smugly that one penalty for violating the Espionage Act is execution.

10. Suspend the rule of law
The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 gave the president new powers over the national guard. This means that in a national emergency - which the president now has enhanced powers to declare - he can send Michigan's militia to enforce a state of emergency that he has declared in Oregon, over the objections of the state's governor and its citizens.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:07 pm | #

>>>FORCED RAPTURE
It seems more and more obvious that there is an agenda to promote an End Days scenario and using the Middle East as a springboard. This cancer on the world citizens' rights has many symptons: warmongering with no clear agenda, enemy, goal and stratergy. Continually pushing each others' religion as having a global agenda for enslavement. It is so ironic that an overwhelming number of people that say they do not believe in "outlandish conspiracy theories" do believe that if we leave Iraq, all muslims will somehow band togather in a billion man force dead set on dominating the world. So when they talk about calafates and islamic fundamentalism being the greatest threat to our freedoms, the cancer shows itself. Please take a look at a short documentary showing what happens when we allow elites to create forced rapture scenarios as a pretext to hundreds of years of control, murder, and enslavement:

The Catholic Inquisition And The Papal Agenda
Torture and murder that took place under Papal authority during the 605 years of the Inquisition. Besides the millions of muslims and jews that were displaced, murdered and tortured, over 50 million Christians who believed in Jesus Christ above Papal Authority Perished:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...538940742386630

>>>Neocon Agenda for WWIII Includes War Between Jews/Christians/Muslims In Order To Summon The Second Coming Of Jesus

Huge part of the Neo-Con/Zionist/Nazi agenda is a huge war in the middle east based of ethnic clensing to summon JC. This agenda and the Machiavellian methods used to bring it out are found in over 100 articles, here is a sample:
Delay: US And Israel Must Enjoy Second Coming
http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/200...-second-coming/ - 226k - Cached - Similar pages
neocon.htmlWar with Iran is a precondition for the second coming of Christ
http://www.derekmaitland.com/neocon.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisAs Ashcroft helps lead the way in the Neo-Con agenda, Just prior to Christ’s second coming, the Church is conveniently removed by the secret “rapture ...
http://www.catholicintl.com/nonc...- protestant.htm - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisThis is the same Neo-con outfit that funds Crisis for the Second Coming of Christ
http://www.catholicintl.com/cath...s/ politics2.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
Trying to Force the Rapture-The neocon agenda must be stopped cold, dead in its tracks before the world
http://www.rense.com/general67/rap.htm - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
An Arab Woman Blues - Reflections in a sealed bottle. Christ's second coming will happen but albeit in Iraq they are only a part of the Neocon Empire movement
http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.c...ond- coming.html - 441k - Cached - Similar pages
Israel as an Extension of American Empire — A Jewish Magazine-While Christians enjoy the Second Coming and the salvation, the entire Land of Israel is an expendable pawn in the very center of the neo-con agenda.
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/blogs/ jeff-halper/blogentry.2006-06-19.7814635824 - 50k - Cached - Similar pages
Public Christian » PNAC: This Neocon Agenda is Un-American and Un-Christian” The people of America and Britain are products of an anti-Christ agenda
http://www.publicchristian.com/?p=205 - 63k - Cached - Similar pages
Be A Good Party Member - See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil. Biblical righteousness instead of the Republican NeoCon Zionist agenda.
http://www.covenantnews.com/ cron...krite050802.htm - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Neo-Conned: The Neo-Conservative Connection | How Neocon Shiite Strategy Led to Sectarian War, by Gareth Porter
http://www.holology.com/neocon.html - 270k - Cached - Similar pages
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For us to be protect from a "FORCED RAPTURE," we should find out the stand from each politician. I suppose we can figure out Mitt Romney's side of this issue based on this candid video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- G9hydflwEQ
Movie capture from 16:30 to 17:30 - This video will probably be edited soon.

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:06 pm | #

Iconic GOP Senator, Alaska Politics Under Siege
http:// seattletimes.nwsource.com...salaska05m.html
An extraordinary political drama is unfolding in Alaska as the FBI and federal grand juries investigate Ted Stevens, the nation's longest-sitting GOP senator, and his son, a former state Senate president whose office was twice searched by federal agents last year. Already four state lawmakers have been charged, including one found guilty of bribery
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:03 pm | #

Petition to Demand Investigation of UN Bribery Scandal
http://1389blog.com/2007/08/01/p...ribery-scandal/
UN Special Envoy for Kosovo has been accused of accepting enormous bribes from the Albanian crime syndicate in return for recommending independence for Kosovo. There's been enough stonewalling. Let's get to the bottom of this!
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:03 pm | #

Die Hard 4: The News is Completely Manipulated
http://www.jonesreport.com/ artic...7_die_hard.html
Die Hard 4, the fourth in the series of Bruce Willis action films, features a short bit about the nature of mass media. One character rants to Willis' character about his problem with the news-- namely that it is completely manipulated to drive fear-based consumption.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:02 pm | #

Ron Paul regains lead over Hillary in eBay Race
http://genuineseller.com/2007/08...y-in-ebay-race/
Ron Paul is back on top this week in the eBay Presidential race. Hillary slips to number two overall, and Rudy and Barack tighten things up.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:59 pm | #

ABC News poll shows Ron Paul overwhelmingly won the Iowa debate
http://positivereform.org/ ABC+Ne...the+Iowa+debate
As of 10:24pm eastern time Who do you think won the Republican debate? Ron Paul 21,372 Mitt Romney 3,220 Rudy Giuliani 2,626 Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race. 2,402 Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic. 2,203 Mike Huckabee 1,889 Sam Brownback 969 Tom Tancredo 559 John McCain 547
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:58 pm | #

Police Assault Former Raw Story Journalist
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Mi..._then_0319.html
A freelance photographer and journalist who has written in the past for The Raw Story, was assaulted, then arrested on 'trumped up' charges by Miami police while trying to take photographs on public property.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:58 pm | #

Video: Jackie Mason goes nuclear on the Democrats over Iraq
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/...rats-over-iraq/
What’s odder, the fact that Jackie Mason is doing YouTube commentaries — this is number 40, apparently — or the fact that no one but no one seems to be watching them? This is red meat served tartare and in two weeks it’s only mustered 1,600 hits. We do more than that for a random Fox clip in 24 hours.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:57 pm | #

Sam Brownback Spammers take on Ron Paul at the Drudge Report Iowa Poll
http://thespinfactor.com/thetrut...st-debate-poll/
First the media spams us with Giuliani. Then ABC News resets their poll while Ron Paul is winning. And now Sam Brownback has a team of spammers spamming the Drudge Report Iowa post-debate poll. The only thing that can stop them is another timely reset.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:57 pm | #

Iowa Republican Debate:Ron Paul Speaks Truth To Kooks
http://blog.myspace.com/ index.cf...logID=295990350
You could see it shook Ron Paul that he was not allowed to speak as much as we would have liked him too in the (Romney and Giuliani) debate. Just got a great description of the debate by Paul Davis from Austin Meetup.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:56 pm | #

Greens: Democrats, retreating on impeachment and withdrawal of US troops
http://www.afterdowningstreet.or...g/?q=node/ 25387
Green Party leaders reaffirmed the party s support for impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney and demand for immediate withdrawal of US forces from Iraq, and sharply criticized Democratic Party leaders for retreating on impeachment and troop withdrawal.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:54 pm | #

America Has Been The World's Bully For 62 Years
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/9130
This country has been heading downhill for a long time and we only have ourselves to blame. When the attacks on the USS Cole happened, we were outraged. Blackhawk Down was a movie that hurt American Pride. When the attacks on the World Trade Center happened, nobody asked the right questions, we were all too mesmerized by the constant repetition
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:52 pm | #

Drug Reimportation = Back Door Price Controls
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/...how/ 121758.html
The House of Representatives has just passed the National Subsidies Act of 2007. OK that s not what it is actually called--that would be far too honest a title. In any case, besides handing out farm subsidies, the act would also allow the reimportation of pharmaceuticals from abroad.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:52 pm | #

G.O.P. Candidates See Signs of Progress in Iraq
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/0...gin& oref=slogin
The leading Republican presidential candidates said today that the military escalation in Iraq appeared to be restoring stability in that country and they berated their Democratic counterparts for advocating an end to American involvement there. Only Time Ron Paul is Mentioned:
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On Iraq, only one candidate — Representative Ron Paul of Texas — advocated a withdrawal. “We’re losing this one,” he said. “We shouldn’t be there. We ought to just come home.”
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:51 pm | #

Mayor Bloomberg Confronted as Filming Restrictions Set for Enforcement
http://www.jonesreport.com/ artic...confronted.html
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was confronted outside of his Manhattan residence yesterday by reporters affiliated with WeAreChange.org and Infowars.com, who asked if his new film policy is meant to be an attack on the First Amendment, which is demonstrably the case. Bloomberg refused to comment on two occasions about the free speech assault.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:29 pm | #

Sucjh crap!!
WTF are you new yorkers going to do about this?
Wussies!
Corn-hol-ios!
Tee-pee for my pee-pees!!
you and D.C.both candie-asses!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 10:40 pm | #

OK, so now what are you gonna do about what they've done??
Henry Bowman | 07.22.07 - 5:28 am | #

Dude,
I looked up your nic on google, fictional charactor it said!!
hahahahahaha lol
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 10:34 pm | #

PROOF Ron Paul will be President
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V...h? v=VGFw6pRFJRg
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:28 pm | #

110TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION

H.R. ________

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Mr. __________ introduced the following bill;
which was referred to the Committee on Rules

A BILL
To require before final passage of any Bill the printing and full verbatim reading of the text of such Bill, and each and every amendment attached thereto, to each house of Congress called to order with a quorum physically assembled throughout, the entry of such a printing and reading in the journal of each house of Congress, and the verbatim publication of every such Bill, and each and every amendment thereto, on the official Internet web site of the Senate and the House of Representatives at least seven days before floor consideration and final passage of any Bill, and each and every amendment thereto by each house of Congress; and to provide for enforcement of the printing, reading, entry, publication, recording and affidavit requirements herein.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States
Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE

This Act may be cited as the “Read the Bills Act.”

SECTION 2. FINDINGS

(a) The United States Constitution vests all legislative powers granted therein to the United States Congress, members of both the Senate and House of which are elected by the people to whom each member is accountable to represent the people of the State and of the House District in the exercise of each member's legislative powers.

(b) To the end that Congress be politically and legally accountable to the people, Article I, Section 4 of the United States Constitution requires each House of Congress to keep a journal of its proceedings and from time to time publish the same.

(c) To the end that no legislation be passed without effective representation of the people's interest by the elected members of the Congress, Article I, Section 7 of the United States Constitution states that only those Bills “which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate,” and not vetoed by the President, “shall become” Laws.

(d) According to Section I of Thomas Jefferson's 1812 Manual of Parliamentary Practice for the Use of the Senate of the United States (“Jefferson's Manual”), “nothing tended more to throw power into the hands of administration and those who acted with the majority ... than a neglect of, or departure from, the rules of proceeding [which] operated as a check and control of the actions of the majority [and] a shelter and protection to the minority.”

(e) According to Sections XXII and XL of Jefferson's Manual, it was the rule of the Senate that every bill receive three readings, two full readings by the Clerk of the Senate, and a third reading of the title of the bill only in that “every member of the Senate had a printed copy [of said bill] in his hand.”

(f) According to Sections XXIV, XXV, and XL of Jefferson's Manual, it was the rule of the House of Representatives, following the parliamentary procedure of the English House of Commons, that every bill received two full readings by the Clerk of the House, and a reading of the whole contents of the bill verbatim by the Speaker of the House before the House voted on each bill.

(g) Under current Senate rules, the Senate has departed from its original practice of a full first and second reading of each bill, and of ensuring that each Senator has a printed or other verbatim copy of each bill before passage thereof, having by Rule XIV limited each reading of a bill to the reading of the bill's title only, unless the Senate in any case shall otherwise order.

(h) Under current House rules, the House of Representatives has by Rule XVI ( and Rule XVIII (5) embraced its original practice of full first and second readings of each bill, but has regularly departed from this practice by unanimous consent of the House, and has dispensed altogether its original practice of a verbatim third reading of each bill before passage, limiting such third reading to the reading of the title only, including the reading of the title only even when members of the House have no printed or other verbatim copy of a bill before passage.

(i) Although Section 106, Title 1, United States Code, requires a bill to be made available in written form to each member of Congress before final passage Congress has by statute conferred upon itself the power, during the last six days of a session of Congress, by concurrent resolution, to vote for passage of a bill that is not in form at the time of final passage.

(j) As a direct consequence of the Senate and the House of Representatives departure from the salutary practice of full, verbatim readings of each bill before final passage, and further, as a direct consequence of Congress, by concurrent resolution, having permitted certain appropriation and budget bills to be enacted into law without such bills being printed and presented to Congress in written form prior to final passage, Congress has: (a) imposed upon the American people excessively long bills, largely written by an unelected bureaucracy, resulting in generally incomprehensible, cumbersome, oppressive and burdensome laws, containing hidden provisions for special interests; (b) deprived the American people and their elected Senators and Representatives of a full and fair opportunity to examine the text of said bills, and all amendments thereto, prior to passage; (c) undermined the confidence of the American people by its failure to give adequate notice to the people before a vote is taken on said bills and their amendments in the bills; and (d) has called into question the integrity and reliability of the legislative processes in both houses of Congress by its failure to ensure that each member of the Senate and each member of the House has, prior to passage, either listened attentively to the reading of the full text of each bill, and its amendments, or has personally read the text thereof.

SECTION 3. READ THE BILLS BEFORE PASSAGE

(a) Chapter 2 of Title 1, United States Code, shall be amended by inserting at the end of the first sentence of Section 106, the following: “provided however, that no bill — including, but not limited to, any bill produced by conference between the two houses of Congress and any bill or resolution extending, modifying, or otherwise affecting the expiration date of a bill previously passed and enacted into law by Congress — shall pass either house of Congress: (a) without the full text of said bill, and the full text of each and every amendment thereto and — if the bill or resolution extends, modifies, or in any way affects the expiration date of a bill previously passed and enacted into law — without the full text of such bill or resolution and the full text of the bill previously passed and enacted into law having first been individually read verbatim by the Clerk of each house to the body of each house called to order and physically assembled with a quorum present throughout the time of the full textual reading of said bill, and of the full text of any bill previously passed and enacted into law, if any, that is the subject of a bill or resolution extending, modifying or in any way affecting the expiration date of such previously passed bill enacted into law; and (b) without the full text of said bill, and the full text of each and every amendment thereto, and the full text of the previously passed bill and enacted into law, if any, having been published verbatim on the official Internet web site of each house at least seven days prior to a final vote thereon in each house, together with an official notice of the date and time on which the vote on the final version of said bill and its amendments will take place.”

(b) Chapter 2, Title 1, United States Code, shall be further amended by striking the last sentence of Section 106, and substituting therefor: “With respect to each bill and each and every amendment thereto, and each bill previously passed and enacted into law, the expiration date having been extended, modified or in any way changed by a bill or resolution, each house of Congress shall cause to be recorded in its journal of proceedings: (a) that the reading, printing, and publishing requirements of this section have been met; and (b) the names of those members of the Senate and of the House present during the reading of each bill and each and every amendment thereto. Each member of the Senate and each member of the House shall execute a sworn affidavit, such affidavit being executed under penalty of perjury as provided in Section 1621, Title 18, United States Code, that the member either was present throughout the entire reading of each bill, each and every amendment thereto, and listened attentively to such reading, or, prior to any vote on passage of the bill, and each and every amendment thereto, personally read attentively each bill, and each and every amendment thereto, in their entirety. Neither house of Congress, nor Congress jointly — by concurrent resolution, or by unanimous consent, or by any other order, resolution, vote, or other means — may dispense with, or otherwise waive or modify, the printing, reading, entry, publishing, recording, or affidavit requirements set forth herein.”

(c) Chapter 2, Title 1, United States Code, shall be further amended by renumbering Sections 106a and 106b to 106b and 106c respectively and adding a new Section 106a as follows: “Enforcement Clause. No bill shall become law, nor enforced or applied as law, without Congress having complied fully with the printing, reading, entry, publishing, recording, and affidavit requirements of Section 106, Title 2, United States Code and any person against whom such a bill is enforced or applied may invoke such noncompliance as a complete defense to any action, criminal or civil, brought against him. Any p
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 10:27 pm | #

More Newspapers Across The Country Call For End To Occupation Of Iraq
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...pation-of-iraq/
A growing number of newspapers across the country are calling for the Bush Administration to begin withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq. Among them are newspapers from red states, including several (such as the Roanoke Times in Virginia and The Olympian in Washington state) that circulate in areas with large concentrations of military families.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:27 pm | #

Feds looking for warrant-less wiretap leaker... instead of Anthrax perps
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
The raid appears to be the first significant development in the probe since The New York Times reported in December 2005 that Bush had authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on the international phone calls and e-mails of U.S. residents without court warrants.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:26 pm | #

Inside the CIA’s secret interrogation program
http://www.newyorker.com/reporti...? printable=true
The Bush Administration has gone to great lengths to keep secret the treatment of the hundred or so “high-value detainees” whom the C.I.A. has confined, at one point or another, since September 11th. By design, there has been virtually no access for outsiders to the C.I.A.’s prisoners.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:26 pm | #

Giuliani Attacks Senior Columnist, Liberals, and Taxes at GOP Debate
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.c...d-gets-it-back/
If Mr. Giuliani had a leitmotif during this debate, it was appealing to his conservative audience by slapping some favorite conservative targets, including The New York Times and Michael Moore.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:25 pm | #

Jane Hamsher On CNN Talking About Mitt's Fit
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...bout-mitts-fit/
Our friend, Jane Hamsher from Firedoglake joined CNN ’s Rick Sanchez and spokesman for the National Review, Jim Geraghty, to talk about GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney and his heated off air tussle (it starts about 10 minutes into the YouTube clip) last week during a break with a talk show host in Iowa.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:24 pm | #

Ron Paul (200 Keeps Building Support Despite Naysayers [vid incl]
http://www.thirdeyeconcept.org/f...hp? topic=5093.0
This Texan just isn't going away anytime soon. Ron Paul's growing base of support and money for the coffers has GOP stalwarts scratching their heads. East Texas congressman Paul has galvanized a cross-section of all parties and affiliations that are hungry for a politician who is less of a political animal, and more of a straight shooter...
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:24 pm | #

Washington Post & ABC Republican Poll Ignores Ron Paul Supporters
http://thefreedomfellowship.blog...fic- survey.html
Pretty amazing what the "real world" looks like when they've weeded out all those "kooks and crazies" who support Ron Paul. We'll feel so reassured that ABC has taken the time to figure out all this for We The People.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:17 pm | #

Now that the debate's over, it's time to consider the winners and losers.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/D...opup? id=3436820
Who do you think won the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

21,059

Mitt Romney
3,186

Rudy Giuliani
2,616

Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
2,391

Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
2,183

Mike Huckabee
1,861

Sam Brownback
965

Tom Tancredo
552

John McCain
541

Tommy Thompson
365

Duncan Hunter
345
Total Vote: 36,064
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:15 pm | #

Ignorant Republican Once Again Attacks Ron Paul at Presidential Debate
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2.../ ap3988322.html
"Just come home," began Texas Rep. Ron Paul, the lone dissenter on a debate stage when it came to Iraq. The slightly confused and less than competent Mitt Romney then interrupted, "Has he forgotten about 9/11?"
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:14 pm | #

Did you Congressman/Congress Woman Vote for the Wiretapping bill??
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/...6& sort=district
The Vote Record of the House for the wiretap-ing Bill... Senate Record isn't online yet
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:12 pm | #

Quick overview of ABC Republican Debate in Iowa
http://www.thecomingstorm.net/ar.../ abc_debate.php
The ABC news network in they're coverage of the republican debates in Iowa, skipped Ron Paul on one of his key issues, taxes. however, they did let him answer some other, time-filler questions, such as what was your biggest, defining mistake in you life?, and what's the role of the vice president? ABC, among other news networks, also likes to...
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:09 pm | #

Ron Paul on Iraq @ Iowa Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h? v=W9N6BW7SjIw
Another debate, another series of great answers from RP. Notice YouTube has disabled comments and votes on this, I guess afraid it will break their servers??
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:09 pm | #

Ron Paul Supporters Are Becoming Active
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/...ing- active.html
Great video of Ron Paul supporters being active at farmer's market in Indiana.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:08 pm | #

YouTube - Ron Paul Says "Just Come Home" at ABC Debate with George Stephano
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h?v=XX- DIpkJRDY
"We went in there illegally... it's lasting too long... the wars were never really ended.. we shouldn't be there.. we should just come home." - Ron Paul
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:07 pm | #

Just Come Home - Ron Paul gives best interview, yet, on FOX News
http://thespinfactor.com/thetrut...et-on-fox-news/
FOX News shows an amazing clip of Ron Paul at the Iowa debate on Aug 5. Then a hot anchor interviews Ron Paul in what may be one of the most civilized and fair interviews Ron Paul has had, yet.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:07 pm | #

Clinton Promotes Prison Industrial Complex
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...7080400767.html
Clinton chastised Bush for a 2008 budget that she said would further cut the Community Oriented Police Services program and other law enforcement initiatives. That program was created under President Clinton to put 100,000 more officers on the street. The original program expired seven years ago, but Congress has kept funding it.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:06 pm | #

Why the Republican Party Should Embrace Ron Paul
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/...e-ron- paul.html
Ron Paul is expressing his free speech in talking about the issues. Even though he differs from the mainstream Republican party, he is still worth embracing.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:05 pm | #

Media ignores Ron Paul, "RON PAUL 2008" advertisement appears on $ bills
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ld30YAseVQ
Yet another way to spread the message?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:05 pm | #

>>>ABC EXPOSED AS CRIMINALLY MISLEADING TO FIX AMERICAN ELECTIONS

>>>>>>>>ABC Cites Fixed Washington Post Poll to Discredit Ron Paul
http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/08...redit-ron-paul/
Rat Says: This is comical, to open the debate and introduce the candidates, ABC uses a poll from the Washington Post that actually had a sample size of 100 !!! No doubt these cherry picked samples are not exactly representative of the voting population. Over 70% of those questioned have never used a computer to access their chosen candidate’s web sites. Yet ABC quotes these numbers which have Ron Paul at 2%, as if they were from a legitimate poll. This is criminally misleading, ABC is trying to decide our election.

Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project. *= less than 0.5 percent
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1. (FOR SCREENING PURPOSES) Are you registered to vote in Iowa at your present address, or not?
7/31/07
Yes - 100
No - 0
No Opinion - 0
___________________________________________
10. So far in the Republican campaign, have you (ITEM)?
a. Been called on the telephone by any of the campaigns 63 36 *
Yes - 63
No - 36
No Opinion - *
b. Attended a campaign event 23 77 *
Yes - 23
No - 77
No Opinion - *
c. Contributed money to any of the presidential candidates 10 90 *
Yes - 10
No - 90
No Opinion - *
d. Visited any of the candidates’ Web sites on the Internet 28 72 0
Yes - 28
No - 72
No Opinion - 0
e. Received e-mails from any of the campaigns 24 74 1
Yes - 24
No - 74
No Opinion - 1
____________________________________________
TNS of Horsham, Pa.
http://www.tnstelecoms.com/ [Subsidiary of TNS Website - CAUTION: Their Main Website for TNS has Phishisng Spyware, Leechware, do not go to it.]
TNS Telecoms is the world's largest telecom market information company. TNS Telecoms is part of TNS, whose international network of more than 100 offices provides market information services to national and multi-national organizations in over 80 countries. Building on our ongoing syndicated data collection, TNS Telecoms offers a variety of products for the business and residential telecom marketplace. Our clients, which include major worldwide telecom service providers, rely on us for accurate information from an unbiased perspective to help them stay ahead in this complex, fast-changing industry. We distinguish ourselves as the source for the greatest depth, breadth, and scope of telecom market intelligence on local, long distance, wireless, satellite/cable TV, Internet, and broadband issues. Our innovative solutions, combined with strategic partnerships, are helping telecom businesses answer the tough questions facing the telecommunications industry.

J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
_____________________________________________
The whole poll is comical, look at how 73% of those polled were satisfied with the Republican candidates.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:59 pm | #

shhhh, dont tell him its kickboxing
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 9:47 pm |
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Oh I would pay to see that !!
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:57 pm | #

we need to keep track of each other, lest we all disapear.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:41 pm |
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I am so glad you tried also. Lets keep trying him, this has not happened before, I am getting anxious about it . He hung a banner out his window the other day - I dont know what it said but I can imagine.
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:51 pm | #

shhhh, dont tell him its kickboxing
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 9:47 pm | #

Its really the only way to know if he is fit to be a leader.
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:43 pm | #

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I dont know about THAT, but it'd be fun as all hell
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 9:45 pm | #

politics schmolitics, if el busho is a man he'd accept my challenge to a steel cage match, hearing nothing from him so far, I can only guess he's a coward, and unfit to be a leader.
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 9:23 pm |
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Its really the only way to know if he is fit to be a leader.
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:43 pm | #

I tried his phone this morning at 9:30. No Gabe but I left a message that he is missed on the board and please stop in and say hi so we know he's okay.
If anyone knows anything , please post....
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:36 pm | #

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I tried also and got the machine...I lft a message...I hope he pokes his head in and lets us know....we need to keep track of each other, lest we all disapear.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:41 pm | #

monster, and that you admit being TOLD by these voices to do the horror-iffic acts for which you will seal your fate with hell for ever and ever and ever!~
happy sundey
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 9:18 pm | #

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They are clearly in league! There are only the haves and the have nots. It is about power not money per se.....control....kill those who youu cannot subjugate!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:37 pm | #

Yo,
Where is GAK??

Where is USAma ben Lay-den?

www.whoknows.com
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 8:45 pm
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I tried his phone this morning at 9:30. No Gabe but I left a message that he is missed on the board and please stop in and say hi so we know he's okay.
If anyone knows anything , please post....
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:36 pm | #

"EXECUTIVE DISORDER"
http://www.opednews.com/ articles...disorder_22.htm
Bush proposed a new Executive Order allowing seizure of assets without court order or trial from anyone who is even SUSPECTED might commit undefined violent acts which MIGHT interfere with the Iraq war and occupation. Kudos to Ron Paul for exposing it. Boos and rage to all other presidential candidates for not exposing it.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:30 pm | #

DEBATE on CSPAN1 9:30pm EST/6:30pm PST

During the commercial breaks, C-SPAN may run off air comments, watch here online:

http://c-span.org
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:26 pm | #

Three teens killed, one hurt in school execution
http://www.news.com.au/ dailytele...5006003,00.html
NEWARK: Three teenagers have been killed and one wounded in an horrific schoolyard execution which had no immediately apparent motive. The four - two girls and two boys - were lined up against a wall in a school parking lot in New Jersey today and shot in the head.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:21 pm | #

Should Homeland Security Forces be Used to target video game pirates?
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/...mod-chip-sting/
Immigration and Customs (ICE) officials conducted a controversial series of raids in 16 US states last week. Were they after terrorists? Al-Qaeda? Dirty bombs? Nah... video game mod chips, which are used to modify game consoles for both legit (playing games from Japan) and not-so-legit (playing copied games) reasons.
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How is this a question?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:20 pm | #

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fox Focus Group Rates Ron Paul the Winner
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/...ves/ 014451.html
August 05, 2007
Fox Focus Group Rates Ron Paul the Winner
Posted by Lew Rockwell at August 5, 2007 01:30 PM

Who won? Was it one of the eight criminal pygmies or Ron Paul? Both the ABC and Drudge polls have Ron leading, of course.

And here's some inside info: Fox News held a focus group in a diner near Drake University, where the debate was held. 25 people rated the candidates' answers on Fox laptops, and thanks to a Des Moines Meet-Up member who was able to attend as a restaurant worker, here's an inside report:

Ron's answers were rated far higher than other candidates--indeed, one was so high it froze the main computer, requiring a reboot--and when the 25 people were asked to vote on the winner after the debate by raising their hands, Ron also won.

Whether the Sean Hannity producer who ran the focus group will be reporting on this, I think we know.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:20 pm | #

Police find explosive making devices in car
http://www.abcnews4.com/news/sto...807/ 444994.html
Goose Creek - Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. There are conflicting reports as to the quantity of explosive making materials in that vehicle.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:10 pm | #

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Speaking of explosives:

Did anyone hear anymore regarding the device LAPD exploded on the Westside of LA? Same day as an explosion at UCLA and the Mojave airport. Same day as a terror aler shut down Long Beach airport.
I have friends who were evacuated due to this...never hit any MSM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h? v=rJZ__I647K8
http://www.westlaonline.com/2007...detonates- .html
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:20 pm | #

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Shout loudly if at all! We cannot be secretive about resisting or elese we will die by suicide; gunshot wound to the head from 10 or so yards away, like Vince Foster, Pat TIlliman, THe woman who sued W....etc. a long list of sucides and accidental deaths surround the polictical-corporate farce that is our Tyranical gov.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:38 pm | #

Ron,
My brother,
The clitonistas, with Rush Limbaughs verbal assistance , gave us NAFTA, Rush sold it to the neocons(i know I was there) while mrs. C sold it to the "village" peeple.

So,
It appears, that you can count on only a handful of congress critters to help stir is toward the republic again

I kinda doub itt,( due to historical lack of an empire ever, ever returning to a benivolant republic from a fascist socialism.)

That doesn't mean it cant be done, it just never has, and why should God have mercy on us anyway! We have constantly supported every kind of murder conceived in the minds of warriors
since the first white men walked onto the eastern shores!

We just take turns outlawing certian types of murder.At this time, it is legal to murder your offspring,They call it "abortion"
at this time it is legal to murder fellow students in a rampage,you get sympathy from the media, specially if you kill your sorry,brain-washed self!
Then they will spend MONTHS speculating on why your monsterous ass did what you did, the whole time intentionally ignoring the fact that you have always admitted to being demon possessed and thinking like a monster, and that you admit being TOLD by these voices to do the horror-iffic acts for which you will seal your fate with hell for ever and ever and ever!~
happy sundey
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 9:18 pm | #

Mitt Romney Second Coming 16:30 - 17:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- G9hydflwEQ
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:18 pm | #

>>>>>>>>Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/ sto...2063979,00.html
From Hitler to Pinochet and beyond, history shows there are certain steps that any would-be dictator must take to destroy constitutional freedoms.

Because Americans like me were born in freedom, we have a hard time even considering that it is possible for us to become as unfree - domestically - as many other nations. Because we no longer learn much about our rights or our system of government - the task of being aware of the constitution has been outsourced from citizens' ownership to being the domain of professionals such as lawyers and professors - we scarcely recognise the checks and balances that the founders put in place, even as they are being systematically dismantled. Because we don't learn much about European history, the setting up of a department of "homeland" security - remember who else was keen on the word "homeland" - didn't raise the alarm bells it might have. It is my argument that, beneath our very noses, George Bush and his administration are using time-tested tactics to close down an open society. It is time for us to be willing to think the unthinkable - as the author and political journalist Joe Conason, has put it, that it can happen here. And that we are further along than we realise. Conason eloquently warned of the danger of American authoritarianism. I am arguing that we need also to look at the lessons of European and other kinds of fascism to understand the potential seriousness of the events we see unfolding in the US.

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
After we were hit on September 11 2001, we were in a state of national shock. Less than six weeks later, on October 26 2001, the USA Patriot Act was passed by a Congress that had little chance to debate it; many said that they scarcely had time to read it. We were told we were now on a "war footing"; we were in a "global war" against a "global caliphate" intending to "wipe out civilisation". There have been other times of crisis in which the US accepted limits on civil liberties, such as during the civil war, when Lincoln declared martial law, and the second world war, when thousands of Japanese-American citizens were interned. But this situation, as Bruce Fein of the American Freedom Agenda notes, is unprecedented: all our other wars had an endpoint, so the pendulum was able to swing back toward freedom; this war is defined as open-ended in time and without national boundaries in space - the globe itself is the battlefield. "This time," Fein says, "there will be no defined end." Creating a terrifying threat - hydra-like, secretive, evil - is an old trick. It can, like Hitler's invocation of a communist threat to the nation's security, be based on actual events (one Wisconsin academic has faced calls for his dismissal because he noted, among other things, that the alleged communist arson, the Reichstag fire of February 1933, was swiftly followed in Nazi Germany by passage of the Enabling Act, which replaced constitutional law with an open-ended state of emergency). Or the terrifying threat can be based, like the National Socialist evocation of the "global conspiracy of world Jewry", on myth. It is not that global Islamist terrorism is not a severe danger; of course it is. I am arguing rather that the language used to convey the nature of the threat is different in a country such as Spain - which has also suffered violent terrorist attacks - than it is in America. Spanish citizens know that they face a grave security threat; what we as American citizens believe is that we are potentially threatened with the end of civilisation as we know it. Of course, this makes us more willing to accept restrictions on our freedoms.

2. Create a gulag
Once you have got everyone scared, the next step is to create a prison system outside the rule of law (as Bush put it, he wanted the American detention centre at Guantánamo Bay to be situated in legal "outer space") - where torture takes place. By the way, the establishment of military tribunals that deny prisoners due process tends to come early on in a fascist shift. Mussolini and Stalin set up such tribunals. On April 24 1934, the Nazis, too, set up the People's Court, which also bypassed the judicial system: prisoners were held indefinitely, often in isolation, and tortured, without being charged with offences, and were subjected to show trials. Eventually, the Special Courts became a parallel system that put pressure on the regular courts to abandon the rule of law in favour of Nazi ideology when making decisions.

3. Develop a thug caste
When leaders who seek what I call a "fascist shift" want to close down an open society, they send paramilitary groups of scary young men out to terrorise citizens. The Blackshirts roamed the Italian countryside beating up communists; the Brownshirts staged violent rallies throughout Germany. This paramilitary force is especially important in a democracy: you need citizens to fear thug violence and so you need thugs who are free from prosecution. Thugs in America? Groups of angry young Republican men, dressed in identical shirts and trousers, menaced poll workers counting the votes in Florida in 2000. If you are reading history, you can imagine that there can be a need for "public order" on the next election day. Say there are protests, or a threat, on the day of an election; history would not rule out the presence of a private security firm at a polling station "to restore public order".

4. Set up an internal surveillance system
In Mussolini's Italy, in Nazi Germany, in communist East Germany, in communist China - in every closed society - secret police spy on ordinary people and encourage neighbours to spy on neighbours. The Stasi needed to keep only a minority of East Germans under surveillance to convince a majority that they themselves were being watched.

5. Harass citizens' groups
The fifth thing you do is related to step four - you infiltrate and harass citizens' groups. It can be trivial: a church in Pasadena, whose minister preached that Jesus was in favour of peace, found itself being investigated by the Internal Revenue Service, while churches that got Republicans out to vote, which is equally illegal under US tax law, have been left alone.

6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
This scares people. It is a kind of cat-and-mouse game. Nicholas D Kristof and Sheryl WuDunn, the investigative reporters who wrote China Wakes: the Struggle for the Soul of a Rising Power, describe pro-democracy activists in China, such as Wei Jingsheng, being arrested and released many times. In a closing or closed society there is a "list" of dissidents and opposition leaders: you are targeted in this way once you are on the list, and it is hard to get off the list.

7. Target key individuals
Threaten civil servants, artists and academics with job loss if they don't toe the line. Mussolini went after the rectors of state universities who did not conform to the fascist line; so did Joseph Goebbels, who purged academics who were not pro-Nazi; so did Chile's Augusto Pinochet; so does the Chinese communist Politburo in punishing pro-democracy students and professors.

8. Control the press
Italy in the 1920s, Germany in the 30s, East Germany in the 50s, Czechoslovakia in the 60s, the Latin American dictatorships in the 70s, China in the 80s and 90s - all dictatorships and would-be dictators target newspapers and journalists. They threaten and harass them in more open societies that they are seeking to close, and they arrest them and worse in societies that have been closed already.

9. Dissent equals treason
Cast dissent as "treason" and criticism as "espionage'. Every closing society does this, just as it elaborates laws that increasingly criminalise certain kinds of speech and expand the definition of "spy" and "traitor". When Bill Keller, the publisher of the New York Times, ran the Lichtblau/Risen stories, Bush called the Times' leaking of classified information "disgraceful", while Republicans in Congress called for Keller to be charged with treason, and rightwing commentators and news outlets kept up the "treason" drumbeat. Some commentators, as Conason noted, reminded readers smugly that one penalty for violating the Espionage Act is execution.

10. Suspend the rule of law
The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 gave the president new powers over the national guard. This means that in a national emergency - which the president now has enhanced powers to declare - he can send Michigan's militia to enforce a state of emergency that he has declared in Oregon, over the objections of the state's governor and its citizens.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:16 pm | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- G9hydflwEQ

Movie capture from 16:30 to 17:30 - This video will probably be edited soon.

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:40 pm | #

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Agree wit him or not I think this video makes Mitt more real than ever before. I think he would do well to post it everywhere........I still think he is an Ass but at least he showed some passion for something he believes in.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:10 pm | #

>>>FORCED RAPTURE
It seems more and more obvious that there is an agenda to promote an End Days scenario and using the Middle East as a springboard. This cancer on the world citizens' rights has many symptons. Warmongering with no clear agenda, enemy, goal, or stratergy is a familiar one. So is continually pushing each others' religion as having a global agenda for enslavement. It is ironic that an overwhelming number of people that say they do not believe in "outlandish conspiracy theories" do believe that if we leave Iraq, all muslims will somehow band togather in a billion man force dead set on dominating the world. So when they talk about calafates and islamic fundamentalism being the greatest threat to our freedoms, the cancer shows itself. Please take a look at a short documentary showing what happens when we allow elites to create forced rapture scenarios as a pretext to hundreds of years of control, murder, and enslavement:

The Catholic Inquisition And The Papal Agenda
Torture and murder that took place under Papal authority during the 605 years of the Inquisition. Besides the millions of muslims and jews that were displaced, murdered and tortured, over 50 million Christians who believed in Jesus Christ above Papal Authority Perished:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...538940742386630

>>>Neocon Agenda for WWIII Includes War Between Jews/Christians/Muslims In Order To Summon The Second Coming Of Jesus

Huge part of the Neo-Con/Zionist/Nazi agenda is a huge war in the middle east based of ethnic clensing to summon JC. This agenda and the Machiavellian methods used to bring it out are found in over 100 articles, here is a sample:
Delay: US And Israel Must Enjoy Second Coming
http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/200...-second-coming/ - 226k - Cached - Similar pages
neocon.htmlWar with Iran is a precondition for the second coming of Christ
http://www.derekmaitland.com/neocon.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisAs Ashcroft helps lead the way in the Neo-Con agenda, Just prior to Christ’s second coming, the Church is conveniently removed by the secret “rapture ...
http://www.catholicintl.com/nonc...- protestant.htm - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisThis is the same Neo-con outfit that funds Crisis for the Second Coming of Christ
http://www.catholicintl.com/cath...s/ politics2.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
Trying to Force the Rapture-The neocon agenda must be stopped cold, dead in its tracks before the world
http://www.rense.com/general67/rap.htm - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
An Arab Woman Blues - Reflections in a sealed bottle. Christ's second coming will happen but albeit in Iraq they are only a part of the Neocon Empire movement
http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.c...ond- coming.html - 441k - Cached - Similar pages
Israel as an Extension of American Empire — A Jewish Magazine-While Christians enjoy the Second Coming and the salvation, the entire Land of Israel is an expendable pawn in the very center of the neo-con agenda.
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/blogs/ jeff-halper/blogentry.2006-06-19.7814635824 - 50k - Cached - Similar pages
Public Christian » PNAC: This Neocon Agenda is Un-American and Un-Christian” The people of America and Britain are products of an anti-Christ agenda
http://www.publicchristian.com/?p=205 - 63k - Cached - Similar pages
Be A Good Party Member - See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil. Biblical righteousness instead of the Republican NeoCon Zionist agenda.
http://www.covenantnews.com/ cron...krite050802.htm - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Neo-Conned: The Neo-Conservative Connection | How Neocon Shiite Strategy Led to Sectarian War, by Gareth Porter
http://www.holology.com/neocon.html - 270k - Cached - Similar pages
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For us to be protect from a "FORCED RAPTURE," we should find out the stand from each politician. I suppose we can figure out Mitt Romney's side of this issue based on this candid video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- G9hydflwEQ

Movie capture from 16:30 to 17:30 - This video will probably be edited soon.

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:04 pm | #

Totally groovey, peeple are you free yet?
How many times today did your pic get taken without your permission OR consent??
Try to take your dog for a walk without a licence!
Dont even THINK of fishing for a free meal, it'll cost ya $200 for a" free" trout dinner!
funny funny,land of the free and home of the brave,
Should be changed to:
land of those that FLEE
and HOME of the GRAVE!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 8:52 pm | #

Support our troops!
We Love Them!
http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?vi...Up2Q& autoplay=1
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 8:48 pm | #

Patriot Act:
SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
(a) Domestic Terrorism Defined.--Section 2331 [any of the following]
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended--
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion...
http://www.eff.org/Censorship/ Te...atriot_act.html

Think about this~
then call your rep(who prolly won't do anything to change it anyways) and tell them to repeal the entire act!!

Yo,
Where is GAK??

Where is USAma ben Lay-den?

www.whoknows.com
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 8:45 pm | #

DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTONGottlieb was called out of retirement to explain MK-ULTRA's role in ..... Former FBI official Larry Potts (of Ruby Ridge fame), who's now an IGI executive. ...
http://www.alamo-girl.com/02742.htm - 121k - Cached - Similar pages
CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:Among those employed by Lenzner and IGI is LARRY POTTS. ... Though the super-secret MK-ULTRA was ended in 1964, a streamlined version called MK-SEARCH was ...
http://www.alamo-girl.com/0315.htm - Similar pages
Downside Legacy on Secret Police [Free Republic]Strangelove -- a brilliant chemist who headed MK-ULTRA, the agency's ..... Former FBI official Larry Potts (of Ruby Ridge fame), who's now an IGI executive. ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/ foru...7fd259069d7.htm - 132k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
Many Books Warn of Bush - Another winner from the Charleston ...Among those employed by Lenzner and IGI is LARRY POTTS. ... He testified as Joseph Scheider, but revealed his true name in later hearings on MK-ULTRA……" ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/1175832/ posts - 37k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING CASE REVELATIONSFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
Larry Potts, Howard Shapiro, Terry Lenzner, and Clinton with the OKC ...... Lenzner worked for the CIA to defend MK ULTRA in lawsuits brought by the US ...
http://www.devvy.com/briley/ OKC_...Revelations.pdf - Similar pages
LP: Muslim Extremist Leader Suspected in US Attacks Tied To Former ...Lenzner worked for the CIA to defend MK ULTRA in lawsuits brought by the US Senate; ... Larry Potts to be VP of Lenzner’s private investigating firm, IGI. ...
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...i? ArtNum=182132 - 35k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING CASE REVELATIONSFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Larry Potts, Howard Shapiro, Terry Lenzner, and Clinton with the OKC bombing ..... A secret fund for MK-ULTRA was set up by the CIA to finance the drug and ...
http://www.okc903.com/Revelations.pdf - Similar pages

Clinton's Black Ops Company IGI and Microsoft hijacking of the entire OS for Illuminati:
DataShaping - Click Fraud Detection, Data Mining, Analytical JobsCharts and Statistical Analysis in Excel (2003) Published by IGI Development ... known as SPSS, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft PowerPoint and Microsoft Word. ...
http://www.datashaping.com/ resum...umes14001.shtml - 16k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] Basr_149 501..511File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
Also in a press release, Microsoft responded to the Oracle/IGI ... fraud (and buying or receiving secrets so obtained) a U.S. federal ...
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com...1467- 8594.00149 - Similar pages
[PDF] Corporate Espionage and Workplace Trust/DistrustFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
to possible deception, fraud, and embezzlement. (Cressy, 1953; Granovetter, 1985; Shapiro, 1987, ..... antitrust case against Microsoft. IGI’s detective ...
http://www.springerlink.com/ inde...89851262T31.pdf - Similar pages
Reason Magazine - Bill's And Larry's Continued Political MisadventuresIGI, as The Wall Street Journal reported, "promptly went trash-hunting" - literally ... put it well: "The government's case against Microsoft has been about ...
http://www.reason.com/news/show/...show/ 36047.html - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
James K. GlassmanIGI, as The Wall Street Journal reported, “promptly went trash-hunting” ... Clinton also pardoned a cocaine trafficker and a notorious fraud artist, ...
http:// www.jewishworldreview.com...ssman030101.asp - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
Internet Security News: [ISN] Dumpster Diving - No firewall helpsfrom the Washington offices of a company associated with Microsoft. ... someone such as IGI to see what they dig up. (Make sure you retain ...
http://www.landfield.com/isn/mai...0/Jul/ 0040.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
Forget the firewall; guard your garbage against 'Dumpster diving ...Days later, a break-in occurred at Microsoft offices in the area in what may ... to be a shell company operated by Investigative Group International (IGI), ...
http://www.infoworld.com/ article...03opswatch.html - Similar pages
SBI - Smith Brandon International, Inc.Mr Nardello, whose experience includes fraud and organised crime ... Despite having about 85 full-time investigators, IGI has yet to gain wide international ...
http://www.smithbrandon.com/news...news.aspx? id=39 - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
Biometrics InfoVoice biometric technology protects call centres from identity fraud .... New Delhi: In a major step towards improving security at IGI Airport, ...
http://www.bioxs.nl/biometrics_i...view.php/bID/ 88 - 43k - Cached - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:44 pm | #

and ANY ANY ANY business that sells out to rupert murdoch, and any politician who allows the sellout, needs to be tried for treason.
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 8:43 pm | #

Patriot Act:
SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
(a) Domestic Terrorism Defined.--Section 2331 [any of the following]
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended--
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion...
http://www.eff.org/Censorship/ Te...atriot_act.html

Think about this~
then call your rep(who prolly wont do anything to change it) and tell them to repeal the entire act!!
Totally Groovy,(A.T.H.F.) | 08.05.07 - 8:41 pm | #

FOXNEWS total Hitpiece, but again...BLOWBACK:

#1 - Free Endorsement for Alex Jones-Now 50 million more people have heard that name

#2 - Attacking him as not being a true Republican [guess if he sqashed that]

They acted like these were viewer questions, they were totally loaded.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:30 pm | #

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there go FOX lying to the public again, even sued in court and won it as their 1st amendment right to lie to the people.... meanwhile at the alex jones and ron paul camps.. neither one of em are "Republicans" according to 'neocon' definitions at all! they are constitutionalists if anything, rupert murdoch isnt even an American, but he's being allowed to buy all the news media he wants and claim American 1st amendment to win a case about lying to the American public. their FCC license oughtta be yanked, all the broadcasting facilities retaken, thanks for the money... asshole.
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 8:41 pm | #

http://sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.html
More on FEMA
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:41 pm | #

>>>Neocon Agenda for WWIII Includes War Between Jews/Christians/Muslims In Order To Summon The Second Coming Of Jesus

Huge part of the Neo-Con/Zionist/Nazi agenda is a huge war in the middle east based of ethnic clensing to summon JC. This agenda and the Machiavellian methods used to bring it out are found in over 100 articles, here is a sample:
Delay: US And Israel Must Enjoy Second Coming
http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/200...-second-coming/ - 226k - Cached - Similar pages
neocon.htmlWar with Iran is a precondition for the second coming of Christ
http://www.derekmaitland.com/neocon.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisAs Ashcroft helps lead the way in the Neo-Con agenda, Just prior to Christ’s second coming, the Church is conveniently removed by the secret “rapture ...
http://www.catholicintl.com/nonc...- protestant.htm - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
Catholic Apologetics International - Robert SungenisThis is the same Neo-con outfit that funds Crisis for the Second Coming of Christ
http://www.catholicintl.com/cath...s/ politics2.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
Trying to Force the Rapture-The neocon agenda must be stopped cold, dead in its tracks before the world
http://www.rense.com/general67/rap.htm - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
An Arab Woman Blues - Reflections in a sealed bottle. Christ's second coming will happen but albeit in Iraq they are only a part of the Neocon Empire movement
http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.c...ond- coming.html - 441k - Cached - Similar pages
Israel as an Extension of American Empire — A Jewish Magazine-While Christians enjoy the Second Coming and the salvation, the entire Land of Israel is an expendable pawn in the very center of the neo-con agenda.
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/b...6- 19.7814635824 - 50k - Cached - Similar pages
Public Christian » PNAC: This Neocon Agenda is Un-American and Un-Christian” The people of America and Britain are products of an anti-Christ agenda
http://www.publicchristian.com/?p=205 - 63k - Cached - Similar pages
Be A Good Party Member - See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil. Biblical righteousness instead of the Republican NeoCon Zionist agenda.
http://www.covenantnews.com/ cron...krite050802.htm - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Neo-Conned: The Neo-Conservative Connection | How Neocon Shiite Strategy Led to Sectarian War, by Gareth Porter
http://www.holology.com/neocon.html - 270k - Cached - Similar pages
_______________________________________
For us to be protect from a "FORCED RAPTURE," we should find out the stand from each politician. I suppose we can figure out Mitt Romney's side of this issue based on this candid video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- G9hydflwEQ

Movie capture from 16:30 to 17:30 - This video will probably be edited soon.

_
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:40 pm | #

Thus, it may very well be that we are already living in a police state – and that it’s all over but the shouting. But still we have to shout.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 8:31 pm | #

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Shout loudly if at all! We cannot be secretive about resisting or elese we will die by suicide; gunshot wound to the head from 10 or so yards away, like Vince Foster, Pat TIlliman, THe woman who sued W....etc. a long list of sucides and accidental deaths surround the polictical-corporate farce that is our Tyranical gov.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:38 pm | #

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

You're gov. keeping you safe!
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:32 pm | #

The Instruments of Tyranny

John W. Whitehead
Lew Rockwell.com
Sunday Aug 5, 2007

Two years ago, in an article entitled “It Can’t Happen Here,” Congressman Ron Paul cautioned, “We are not yet living in a total police state, but it is fast approaching.”

A lot can happen in two years.

In fact, a lot has happened over the past two years, most of it aimed at amassing greater power for the government while undermining the rights of American citizens. And I would venture to say that Rep. Paul’s fears may have come to pass.

For example, sometime in the past two years, President Bush quietly claimed the authority to allow government agents to open the private mail of American citizens, proclaimed his right to assume control of the federal government following a “catastrophic emergency,” and assumed the power to declare martial law and use the military as a domestic police force in response to a natural disaster, disease outbreak, terrorist attack or any “other condition.” However, these incidents are just the tip of the iceberg.

Unless you’ve been asleep for the past decade, the increasing militarization of the police has become an inescapable and ominous reality. The role of law enforcement, especially local police officers, has drastically changed from when I was a child in the 1950s. The friendly local sheriff in The Andy Griffith Show has been shelved for the federal gun-toting terrorist-killer in the popular television series 24.

Some might insist that the new face of law enforcement is warranted, a sign of the times in which we live. After all, whereas we once feared nuclear attacks by the Russians, we now fear each other and the predators that lurk in our midst – serial killers, drug pushers, home-grown and imported terrorists, perverts who prey on small children, the list goes on.

Thus, in order to better deal with these and other threats, congressional legislation now allows the U.S. military, by way of the Pentagon, to train civilian police and provide them with equipment and funding. As a result, our law enforcement agents are armed to the teeth. For example, in Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America (2006), author Radley Balko points out that in “Wisconsin alone during the 1990s, local police departments were given nearly 100,000 pieces of military equipment valued at more than $18 million.” Columbia County, Wisc., which only has a population of 52,468, was given more than 5,000 military items valued at $1.75 million by the Pentagon. These included “11 M-16s, 21 bayonets, four boats, a periscope, and 41 vehicles, one of which was converted into a mobile command center for the SWAT team” – along with surveillance equipment, chemical suits and flak jackets, among other items.

Debating which came first – increased threats requiring greater fire power or heavily armed law enforcement agents in search of greater threats – might seem too much like the chicken or the egg debate, but the numbers speak for themselves. By the early 1980s, there were 3,000 annual SWAT deployments, by 1996 there were 30,000 and by 2001 there were 40,000. Incredibly, these forces conduct approximately 40,000 “no-knock” raids annually across the U.S., some of which are tracked by the Cato Institute on an interactive map on its website.

One thing is undeniable: armed police officers have become a force to be reckoned with. However, it’s not just local law enforcement that’s loaded for bear. As the federalization of law enforcement continues to grow, more types of federal agents are packing heat. As of September 2004, federal agencies employed about 106,000 full-time personnel authorized to make arrests and carry firearms.

Yet FBI agents are only a small portion of the armed federal personnel. Everyone from postal agents, the Internal Revenue Service, the National Park Service and the Environmental Protection Agency to agents of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Army Corps of Engineers are now carrying deadly weapons. In Virginia, for example, game wardens were recently renamed “conservation police officers” in an effort to clarify their role as sworn law enforcement officers who are armed and able to make arrests.

Writing for World Net Daily, Joseph Farah declared, “What we’ve witnessed is the biggest arms buildup in the history of the federal government – and it’s not taking place in the Defense Department. The kind of arms that are proliferating in Washington these days are the kind pointed at our own civilian population and carried by a growing number of federal police forces with ever-larger budgets and ever-deadlier arsenals.”

“Good grief,” remarked Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America, “that’s a standing army.” At all levels, federal, local and state, the government and the police have merged. And in the process, they have become a standing army – which is exactly what the Founders feared.

Those who drafted the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights had an enormous distrust of standing armies. They knew that despotic governments have always used standing armies to control the people and impose tyranny. As James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, wrote, “A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.” These “instruments of tyranny” are now in place.

Thus, it may very well be that we are already living in a police state – and that it’s all over but the shouting. But still we have to shout.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 8:31 pm | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=RpXh7DCptaQ
FEMA CAMPS Etc.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:31 pm | #

http://www.sianews.com/modules.p...rticle& sid=1062

FEMA
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:30 pm | #

http:// www.whatreallyhappened.co...centration.html
don't know if it is real....
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:29 pm | #

What's Wrong With America's Maritime Strategy?Data: Our present number of large, vulnerable aircraft carriers ... further nuclear reduction in NATO A. INF Treaty more favorable to Soviets than NATO B. ...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/mi...rt/1989/ WSM.htm
New Study: The United States is the Primary Supplier of Post-Cold ...The weapons, ranging from fighter aircraft and helicopters to armored personnel carriers and small arms, have either been sold at bargain basement prices or ...
http://commondreams.org/headline...s01/0717- 05.htm

Defend Iraq Against U.S. Imperialist Attack! (February 199U.S. aircraft carrier George Washington in the Persian Gulf, February 1998. ... The war danger comes straight from the U.S. and its NATO and UN ...
http://www.internationalist.org/...rg/ iraq005.html

Treason Abounds ~ Gov't Cabal Plots North American Union (NAU)Our country is being sold out from beneath us, often to foreign entities who ...... the Senate to narrowly vote for the Carter-Torrijos Treaty on April 18, ...
http:// www.stopthenorthamericanu...sonAbounds.html

The Truth Seeker - Bilderberg 2007 Final Report, part 1Chinese Navy to build two carriers with Russian help – agency Although it is ..... It was commonly agreed by the attendees that the US-led NATO alliance and ...
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/...cle.asp? ID=6696 - 50k

OneVoice Blog, Empowering Israeli and Palestinian Citizens Against ...UN NATO Russia and IDF declare officially to the Vatican Authorities a life or ...... (b) U N authorities are on board U S carrier groups and escort ships, ...
http:// blog.onevoicemovement.org...cretary_of.html

A must-read for every concerned world citizenUnited Nations treaty collection Under Article 102 of the Charter of the United Nations, ..... cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is ...
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/ worldci...orldcitizen.htm - 42k

JSTOR: The Treaty Makers and the Law Makers: The Law of the Land ...The United Nations Charter, a treaty to which more than eighty nations are now ..... e.g., taxes on non- residents on income from sources abroad; treason. ...
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici...%3E2.0.CO%3B2- 3

EurealistThe Treaty however, gave Community law supremacy over our law. ..... We are in NATO and also take part in the United Nations, but neither of those two make ...
http://eurealitshome.com/blog/in...php? tag=treason

Withdrawing from the United NationsIn this case, the basisfor U.S. membership in the United Nations lies in both international treaty and in domestic law. If the United States were to ...
http://www.conservativeusa.org/U...g/ UN100ways.htm

GlobaLex - Finding the Law: the Micro-States and Small ...The Maritime Law Association of the United States, Web Links to sources of admiralty and ...... Nordic treaties can be found on the UN Treaty database ...
http://www.nyulawglobal.com/ glob...Microstates.htm - 718k
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:26 pm | #

PNAC Neocons — Brainchild’s of 9/11! In their Rebuilding America’s Defenses…statement, the PNAC wrote, “...The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.” The leaders of the PNAC had the motive, means, and determination to carry out the 9/11 attacks. Usama Bin Laden, alone could not have fabricated the elaborate scheme. To sidetrack the defenses of the United States, it was necessary to have accomplices in the highest levels of the government.
http://911exposed.org/PNAC.htm
The Pentagon Navy Command Center was the Target of the Attack. Why might someone want to target the Naval Command Center? Most people know of the NORAD “all seeing” defensive network, with radar and satellite capabilities. But in their shadow, the NCC also was a very formable command and control facility, with some overlapping capacities. The site of the attack occurred on the first floor at the Naval Command Center portion of the Pentagon. Whoever carried out the attacks, didn't want the Navy to know what was really going on...
http://911exposed.org/NCC.htm
2001 Amalgam Virgo exercise -- dress Rehearsal for 9-11. This little known exercise had all the elements in it that the alleged terrorists would have needed to practice for... Among other things, this exercise, which was run only two months prior to 9/11, was composed of: Osama Bin Laden terror theme, terrorist hijacking of an airliner, suicide attacks with planes, multi-coordinated and varied attacks on different targets, eluding a multifaceted defense network with confusing flight patterns, attacking civilians, cities, and large buildings, using MQM-107 drones masquerading as cruise missiles, being remote-controlled from a circling aircraft that relayed signals from the ground.
http://911exposed.org/Almalgam.htm
Cheney's “Stand Down” Order-Explore the Norman Mineta testimony of Cheney's order to "Stand Down"...
http://911exposed.org/Stand%20Down.htm
The Rumsfeld DoD hijacking Directive. Few people know that the defenses of the United States were hijacked on 9-11 even before the doomed airliners tookoff !!! See the documents that were signed and implemented prior to 9-11 that had ensured the success of the attacks. The documents originated at the top of the Pentagon.
http://911exposed.org/Directive.htm
“Was it a just coincidence that Flight 77 was loaded with passengers with DoD and military backgrounds, mostly Navy and that the crash at the Pentagon happened in the Navy’s command center?”
http://911exposed.org/PassengersDoD.htm
The Hijackers - CIA assets. Right after 9-11, government officials quickly trumped up a list of hijackers -- complete with photos. FBI director Mueller later admitted that "we have not uncovered a single piece of paper" that connected the hijackers to 9-11 attacks! Several alleged hijackers are still alive -- outraged that their names and photos are being broadcast on TV and being labeled as terrorists. But the big government secret is that the hijackers were supported and trained by our U.S. military and the CIA!!!
http://911exposed.org/Hijackers.htm
Flight 77 never went back to Washington! Even with perfect flying skills, it was impossible to have made back to Washington to have attacked the Pentagon. Calculations show that the plane would have to have been traveling at greater than its maximum speed!
http://911exposed.org/Washington.htm
Video of Pentagon Plane shown while Barak speaks on BBC! On the morning of 9/11, Ehud Barak, the former Israel’s prime minister was in London doing an interview with BBC. He came on the BBC at the precise time of the attacks and gave a speech in which he attacked Israel's enemies!
http://911exposed.org/BBC.htm
Pentagon Parking Lot Video is a fraud! High-contrast close ups show that Photoshop “pencil work” was added to the images, also time-stamps are incorrect, and other inconsistencies reveal an effort by the Pentagon to deceive the public. Dozens of cameras in and around the Pentagon would have revealed that a Boeing 757 never hit the Pentagon, however these videos had been confiscated and the public prohibited to view them.
http://911exposed.org/PentVideo.htm
Controlled demolition at the Pentagon. Multiple explosions, claims by witnesses of seeing "bombs", smells of gunpowder, and evidence of blast damage, show that jet fuel had little to do with the damage to the Pentagon on 9-11.
http://911exposed.org/Attack1.htm
Before and after photos show that the crime scene was tampered with.
http://911exposed.org/DebrisStaged.htm
Most Witnesses had Agendas. Witnesses like Rick Renzi, who was well connected to the Bush Administration identified himself as "a law student". Some witnesses would become future Homeland Security officials and others were owners of businesses connected to the Bush administration like "big oil".
http://911exposed.org/Witnesses.htm
Witnesses see a C-130 military aircraft circling above the Pentagon at the time of the attack. What was it doing? Why was it airborne in defiance of a mandated FAA grounding and even more interestingly why would Air Force leaders consider it more important to launch a C-130 and not a jet interceptor?
http://911exposed.org/C130.htm
Don't think a drone (cruise missile) was involved in the 9-11 Attacks? Learn about the capabilities of drones like the Global Hawk and Cruise Missiles.
http://911exposed.org/Missile.htm
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:24 pm | #

according to DICK "tater" CHENEY on Larry King live,,Hillary Clinton is "enforcing enemy propaganda" by asking Roberty Gates for a withdrawal timetable for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq...?
& that,according to George BUSHitlers recent Iraq executive order is indeed a violation of BusHITLERS Iraq exectutive order& is in fact obstructing BUSHitlers conduct of the Iraq war & therefore the Clintons assets,including all property & money should be immedfiately confiscated & seized by homeland security?
where is the line in the sand folks?? are the Clintons in fact different from the rest of us & immuned from BUSHitler's Iraq exectutive order?So let me get this right...
the Clintons are allowed to obstruct BUSHitlers conduct of the Iraq war whenever they feel like it & not suffer the penalties spelled out in said exectutive order& not lose their property & money?
I'm writing my Congressman ,Ron Paul right now!
randy | 08.05.07 - 8:15 pm | #

Karzai: Osama hunt's gone nowhere
http://rawstory.com/ showarticle....FD8QR2P3O2.html
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6 years and $3 trillion later.

How long are they gonna use this Boogie Man?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:12 pm | #

Holy Shit:
How much evidence of Nazi influence do people need? Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:01 pm | #

Holy crap.........this just keeps getting stranger and stranger.........our country/world is being ran by damn criminals!! Boy, it's coming apart at the seams faster than hell!!

Great links boys
Peace | 08.05.07 - 8:11 pm | #

Man jumps White House fence
22-year-old 'not fully clothed' man arrested for unlawful entry.
http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...SE- INTRUDER.xml

This article and this article:
FBI RAIDS ATTORNEY'S HOME WITH SECRET WARRANT
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ FB...me_in_0805.html

Mean they are trying to test MARTIAL LAW.

Guys-that "secret" warrent = NO WARRENT = Unconstitutional.

These are unconstitutional and the best way to stop this ASAP is via....

GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION INTO EXECUTIVE POWER-

psssst pass is on
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:11 pm | #

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr...line/camp/talk/ - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:05 pm | #

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First your webpage now this; you just like ot make me cry.....keep it up.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:10 pm | #

United States Constitution
http://www.law.cornell.edu/const...tion/ index.html
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:06 pm | #

frontline: memory of the camps: join the discussion | PBSAlthough I do not remember the filming the memory of that feeling of ... FRONTLINE has rebroadcast "Memory of the Camps" several times since its first ...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr...line/camp/talk/ - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:05 pm | #

Holy Shit:
How much evidence of Nazi influence do people need?
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Ar...Hitler- Bush.htm

http://www.rense.com/general39/amm.htm

"the Gun Control Act of 1968 wasn't simply an American creation: it was taken from Nazi Germany's gun control laws of 1938 word for word."
http://home.swipnet.se/allez/ Loc...cret_police.htm
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:01 pm | #

Romney Unplugged: GOP Hopeful Tussles With Radio Host Off-Air
http://www.politico.com/blogs/ jo..._unplugged.html

Jeri Thompson: From Cheerleader To Campaign Architect
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews

"24" Takes On Fight Against Global Warming
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? nav=hcmodule
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:00 pm | #

House Passes $460 Billion Pentagon Budget
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...fense-spending/
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:57 pm | #

Iraqi Police Find 60 Bodies Dumped North Of Baghdad
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/...k/ L05682223.htm
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:56 pm | #

Bush Admin On The Hunt: FBI Raided Fmr DOJ Lawyer's Home In Search For Wiretapping Leaker
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:55 pm | #

Watch and read this entire speech and see if lower welfare classes in the United States and disenfranchised voters do not share Dr. Paul's vision of freedom, liberty, and justice for all:
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Malcolm X - Ballot or Bullet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...h? v=CRNciryImqg
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/ ...lotorbullet.htm

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Excerpts:
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"This is part of what’s wrong with you -- you do too much singing. Today it’s time to stop singing and start swinging. You can’t sing up on freedom, but you can swing up on some freedom. Cassius Clay can sing, but singing didn’t help him to become the heavyweight champion of the world; swinging helped him become the heavyweight champion. This government has failed us; the government itself has failed us, and the white liberals who have been posing as our friends have failed us.

"And once we see that all these other sources to which we’ve turned have failed, we stop turning to them and turn to ourselves. We need a self help program, a do-it -- a-do-it-yourself philosophy, a do-it-right-now philosophy, a it’s-already-too-late philosophy. This is what you and I need to get with, and the only time -- the only way we're going to solve our problem is with a self-help program. Before we can get a self-help program started we have to have a self-help philosophy....

"America is just as much a colonial power as England ever was. America is just as much a colonial power as France ever was. In fact, America is more so a colonial power than they because she’s a hypocritical colonial power behind it.

"What is 20th -- What do you call second class citizenship? Why, that’s colonization. Second class citizenship is nothing but 20th century slavery. How you gonna tell me you’re a second class citizen? They don’t have second class citizenship in any other government on this earth. They just have slaves and people who are free. Well this country is a hypocrite. They try and make you think they set you free by calling you a second class citizen. No, you’re nothing but a 20th century slave....

"So today, our people are disillusioned. They’ve become disenchanted. They’ve become dissatisfied, and in their frustrations they want action.

"And in 1964 you’ll see this young black man, this new generation asking for the ballot or the bullet. That old Uncle Tom action is outdated. The young generation don’t want to hear anything about the odds are against us. What do we care about odds?

"When this country here was first being founded there were 13 colonies. The -- The whites were colonized. They were fed up with this taxation without representation, so some of them stood up and said “liberty or death.” Though I went to a white school over here in Mason, Michigan, the white man made the mistake of letting me read his history books. He made the mistake of teaching me that Patrick Henry was a patriot, and George Washington, wasn’t nothing non-violent about old Pat or George Washington.

"Liberty or death was what brought about the freedom of whites in this country from the English. They didn’t care about the odds. Why they faced the wrath of the entire British Empire. And in those days they used to say that the British Empire was so vast and so powerful when the sun -- the sun would never set on it. This is how big it was, yet these 13 little scrawny states, tired of taxation without representation, tired of being exploited and oppressed and degraded, told that big British Empire 'liberty or death.'"
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:51 pm | #

Another good point of information Sane!

What Does it Take to Impeach George Bush
Posted on August 5th, 2007 by DefiantRican
http://www.defiantrican.com/2007...ch-george-bush/
What will it take for this jerk to be impeached! Bill Clinton gets some head under the desk at the Oval Office, and everyone screams and yells and calls for impeachment. Why? So what that he got is rocks off. So what that he lied about it. What is the big deal? Atleast his lie, did not cost thousands of lives. Bush, on the other hand, has lied continuously throughout his presidnecy and nothing is done about it. Weapons of mass destrcution my ass. He used that excuse to try and feel like a man with the most powerful army in the world. He wanted to exercise that power. Look at what it has done. Thousand dead, for what? To save a nickel of a gallon of gas? Not even. Gas prices have never been so high. His presidency is a complete joke. You would think that one should have to atleast be able to spell. He reacts when he wants to react. Hurricane Katrina came and devastated a poverty stricken area of the country and what did he do, he sat there playing golf. it took him over a week to get there. Not only is he worthless, but also a racists. Bridge falls in the middle of an uptown area in Minnesota, Bush is there in a flash. His resume is getting rather impressive:

Homocide, genocide, racism, stupidity, and destroying our civil liberties and rights granted to us by the Constitution. This is the man should be leading our nation? This is a man that should be behind bars. Out of the office. This is a man, who’s family is tied to terrorists, yet he claims to be fighting a war on terror. Wake up America!! We are in the middle of a hostile take over. Bush vs. Clinton for impeachment? Hmmm.. Not a hard question or an answer.
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Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:51 pm | #

Oh, make that mccain in thu toilet. Why does this moron even bother?
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 7:46 pm | #

Ron Paul Interview 1988. For 20 Years he has been saying the same thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h? v=anmlPvmd1Ew
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My gosh, I just got done watching this...

Dr. Paul must be the most intelligent government servant since Thomas Jefferson.

How is he not 99% in the polls? Incredible how the government continues to rule us with fear and making us feel powerless. There is no weapon that can defeat the human spirit.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:45 pm | #

Ron Paul

18,387

Mitt Romney
2,897

Rudy Giuliani
2,467

Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
2,283

Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
1,918

Mike Huckabee
1,756

Sam Brownback
941

Tom Tancredo
527

John McCain
483

Tommy Thompson
350

Duncan Hunter
320
Total Vote: 32,329
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:39 pm | #

Go here to vote on who won the debate this morning:
http://abcnews.go.com/
So far, out of 32,000 votes, Ron Paul still has over 50 % out of 9 candidates. Even gooliani an mccain only got about 10 % each. Gosh I wonder who won?
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 7:33 pm | #

Water as a weapon??

http://miami.indymedia.org/news/...news/...007/05/ 8296.php
Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:12 pm | #

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I am unsure about such a complex plan of specific targeting being built into the infrastructure. (No one in LA drinks the water anyway) I think water will be witheld, it will be an issue of scarcity, water will be the next oil.

Bolivia's famed "water war" of 2001

http://www.globalpolicy.org/ soce...01waterpriv.htm
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:33 pm | #

Sane, GREAT LINK!!!

Who are the FEMA, the MJTF and FINCEN? - An insider reveals a taste of things to come.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:27 pm | #
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It was from Tired of the Lies - Wish he spent more time here
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:31 pm | #

Sane, GREAT LINK!!!

Who are the FEMA, the MJTF and FINCEN? - An insider reveals a taste of things to come.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:27 pm | #

Hi guys sorry for any bulshit last night i was drunk and shuld not had gone online
Lars | 08.05.07 - 7:21 pm | #

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Don't worry about it buddy. You behaved yourself and most of us here have done the same thing. Don't sweat it, we still likes ya.
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 7:26 pm | #

Hi guys sorry for any bulshit last night i was drunk and shuld not had gone online
Lars | 08.05.07 - 7:21 pm | #

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You were a pleasant drunk! You were far from a problem.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:24 pm | #

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>>>>RON PAUL ON FOX BIG STORY AUGUST 05, 2007 part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h? v=xDa59TBR_38
>>>>RON PAUL ON FOX BIG STORY AUGUST 05, 2007 part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h?v=eaFMi- O6AaE
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:22 pm | #

Hi guys sorry for any bulshit last night i was drunk and shuld not had gone online
Lars | 08.05.07 - 7:21 pm | #

Money is a game......

http://www.moneyweek.com/file/21...s- illusory.html

http://www.moneyweek.com/file/15...on-the- way.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Fed..._Reserve_System

“the profits recession has already started. It’s just not evident yet in the year-over-year numbers”.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 7:15 pm | #

Water as a weapon??

http://miami.indymedia.org/news/...007/05/ 8296.php
Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:12 pm | #

What a great video Sane!
NWO ranked #1 Scariest YouTube Video
Peace | 08.05.07 - 7:06 pm | #

CNN JUST REPORTED: COST OF IRAQ WAR COULD BE OVER $2 TRILLION
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:49 pm | #

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Get your cash into real property and metals! The currency is poised t fall....
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:53 pm | #

We can revive the true spirit of America
7 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (1 rating)
Ron Paul, Kansas City, Missouri June 15th, 2007..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...h? v=h_dJi5ND954
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:53 pm | #

12 to 15 years shelf life.
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 6:34 pm | #

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the hunting is good up there! Need to bring good cold weather gear......have a plan.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:52 pm | #

CNN JUST REPORTED: COST OF IRAQ WAR COULD BE OVER $2 TRILLION
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:49 pm | #

I ask you all, are there not 2 systems of justice in this dictatorship?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:45 pm | #

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Clearly so.
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:49 pm | #

This stands in direct conflict with the behavior of our government:

http://www.archives.gov/ national..._of_rights.html

Just a few of the transgreesions:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocu...cus/patriotact/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20061017- 1.html

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...0070509- 12.html
Ron in LA | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:47 pm | #

The Patriot Act is very clear on this offense, but there is a reason that Big Media [AOL/GE/NewsCorp/Viacom/Disney] and NGO's [AEI/PNAC/Brookings/CFR/Heritage/Bilderberg/ Beohemian Society/Council of 300] do not worry about any actual criminal investigations. The entire Act is completely unconstitutional:
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Patriot Act:
SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
(a) Domestic Terrorism Defined.--Section 2331 [any of the following]
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended--
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion...
http://www.eff.org/Censorship/ Te...atriot_act.html
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In addition the unconstitutional patriot act allows for all of this treasonous activity to be fully investigated under RICO.
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SEC. 813. INCLUSION OF ACTS OF TERRORISM AS RACKETEERING ACTIVITY.
Section 1961(1) of title 18, United States Code, is amended
http://www.eff.org/Censorship/ Te...atriot_act.html
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Like the tax law, they know the Patriot Act is unconstitutional so they do not worry, just like the IRS and Federal Reserve are unconstitutional so they do not pay taxes.

I ask you all, are there not 2 systems of justice in this dictatorship?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:45 pm | #

"What about the expense? Let's put it this way: we're spending at least $150 billion to promote democracy in Iraq. That's about $1,500 for each vote cast in the 2000 election. How can we balk at spending a small fraction of that sum to secure the credibility of democracy at home?" -Democracy At Risk By PAUL KRUGMAN New York Times January 23, 2004

"To say that the [Bush-Cheney] secret presidency is undemocratic is an understatement. I'm anything but skittish about government, but I must say this administration is truly scary and, given the times we live in, frighteningly dangerous."- (former Nixon White House counsel ) JOHN DEAN

"Jeb Bush says he won't allow an independent examination of voting machines because he has "every confidence" in his handpicked election officials. Yet those officials have a history of slipshod performance on other matters related to voting and somehow their errors always end up favoring Republicans. Why should anyone trust their verdict on the integrity of voting machines, when another convenient mistake could deliver a Republican victory in a high-stakes national election?" -Fear of Fraud By PAUL KRUGMAN New York Times 27 July 2004

"It's not too hard to get your vote lost - if some politicians want it to be lost." -1.9 Million Black Votes Didn't Count in the 2000 Presidential Election By Greg Palast San Francisco Chronicle June 20, 2004

"Maybe the Diebold decision makes sense, if you believe, to paraphrase Henry Kissinger, that democracy is too important to leave up to the votes of the people." -Diebold, Electronic Voting and the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy By Bob Fitrakis The Columbus Free Press February 25, 2004

"John Dean, of Watergate fame, says, "I've been watching all the elements fall into place for two possible political catastrophes, one that will take the air out of the Bush-Cheney balloon and the other, far more disquieting, that will take the air out of democracy." - "This Isn't America", By Paul Krugman, The New York Times, Tuesday 30 March 2004

"If I may, I'd like to remind you what I said at the State of the Union. Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to each and every person. And that's what I believe. I believe that when we see totalitarianism, that we must deal with it."- George W. Bush, prime time press conference, White House, Mar. 6, 2003

"We were premature in praising Gov. Jeb Bush for taking the high road in the matter of restoring voting rights for felons who have served their sentences and been released from prison." --Bush Takes Back Good Move on Voting Pensacola News Journal Tuesday 27 July 2004

'On November 2 millions of Americans will cast their votes for President in computerized voting systems that can be rigged by corporate or local-election insiders. Some 98 million citizens, five out of every six of the roughly 115 million who will go to the polls, will consign their votes into computers that unidentified computer programmers, working in the main for four private corporations and the officials of 10,500 election jurisdictions, could program to invisibly falsify the outcomes. The result could be the failure of an American presidential election and its collapse into suspicions, accusations and a civic fury that will make Florida 2000 seem like a family spat in the kitchen. Robert Reich, Bill Clinton's Labor Secretary, has written, "Automated voting machines will be easily rigged, with no paper trails to document abuses."' -How They Could Steal the Election this Time By Ronnie Dugger The Nation Thursday 29 July 2004 http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/...4/ 080304D.shtml

"Bush has not led the nation to unity, but ruled through fear and division. Dishonesty and deceit in areas critical to the public interest have been the hallmark of his Administration." -I Smell a Rat By Colin Shea http://FreezerBox.com Friday 12 November 2004

"I think that right now we are in one of the most dangerous periods in our existence.
Not since the Civil War has the state of our democracy been so doubtful....I think this election is perhaps the most important in the last century, going back
perhaps to the Civil War." - Walter Cronkite

"The election of 2004 is the most important--fateful--since 1860, which unlocked the door to civil war."- Gore Vidal

"No one will ever see all the details but the [current] crookedness is unique in our history. Enron was the first storm warning but no one realized how easily accepted that cluster of capers would be by a polity marinated in corruption -- as Ben Franklin predicted, in 1789, as our eventual fate." - from "Gore Vidal Delivers Chilling Predictions of Despotism" By Arthur Jones, 8/2/03

"We are on the precipice of being so ignorant that our democracy is threatened." - Veteran News anchor Walter Cronkite, selected by the American people in the mid 1990s as "the most trusted man in America"
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:44 pm | #

Vote Ron Paul 2008.
jbrid1138 | 08.05.07 - 6:44 pm | #

Candidates@Google: Ron Paul
1 hr 6 min - Jul 14, 2007 - (3863 ratings)
2008 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul in discusion with Google executive Elliot Schrage as part of the company's Candidates@Google series....ron paul candidates@google
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h? v=yCM_wQy4YVg

Ron Paul of Texas - The End of Dollar Hegemony
35 min - Aug 31, 2006 - (256 ratings)
.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/ cr021506.htm...C-SPAN...HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS Before the US
http://video.google.com/ videopla...695139643041382

Ron Paul on dissent in a time of war.
24 min - May 22, 2007 - (696 ratings)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...391565012624048

Congressman Ron Paul Speaks Out AGAINST War With IRAN - April ...
44 min - Apr 20, 2006 - (222 ratings)
Ron Paul addresses the House of Representitives against the bi-partisan tide of war-mongerers. He gives an excellent historical case on why and how this deception
http://video.google.com/ videopla...931596878368112

Congressman Ron Paul, MD - We've Been NeoConned
51 min - Jan 24, 2007 - (213 ratings)
org No sexy, hot girls, babes, or bikini contest footage here. But it's Congressman Ron Paul....Congressman Ron Paul, MD
http://video.google.com/ videopla...174553630131591

RON PAUL ON THE U.S. ECONOMY - with GoldSilver.com's Mike M
43 min - Jun 7, 2007 - (52 ratings)
A fascinating one on one interview with Congressman Ron Paul, Republican Presidential candidate from the state of Texas. Congressman Paul, perhaps the last honest politician in Wahington
http://video.google.com/ videopla...924545087333822

RonPaulIowaStrawPollDVD.mpg
40 min - Jul 7, 2007 - (222 ratings)
time to act. Vote in the Iowa GOP straw poll. Join a Ron Paul meetup group at ronpaul.meetup.com Be a part of the revolution
http://video.google.com/ videopla...724646717174405

Congressman Ron Paul on Conservative Roundtable
28 min - Jul 12, 2007 - (195 ratings)
Roundtable, hosted by Howard Phillips, welcomes Dr. Ron Paul, Republican congressman from Surfside, TX. Paul talks about his run to reclaim his seat after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...h? v=_suZvyB69YM

Ron Paul Speech Las Vegas 7/7/07
44 min - Jul 9, 2007 - (21 ratings)
Ron Paul speaking at the Paris Hotel in Las Vegas NV about is presidential campaign. July 7, 2007.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...202010210782365

Neo-CONNED speech by Ron Paul
51 min - May 23, 2007 - (10 ratings)
Neo-CONNED is a speech Ron Paul gave on the house floor July 10, 2003. This is very important as it goes over many aspects of the
http://video.google.com/ videopla...829089909498224
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:40 pm | #

I think it has been slowly dying since 1913. I am again becoming to cynical for words. I am heading out of town......big time.
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:28 pm | #
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Me too.
Alaskan wilderness, here I come.
Take a whole bunch of Freeze dried food.
12 to 15 years shelf life.
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 6:34 pm | #

IT IS ALL STILL ILLEGAL.

It is not enforced by the rule of law but by the rule of POLICE POWER.

We are being conned big time.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:13 pm | #

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I would argue on the face of it that it is legal if the law says it is legal (interpretation of the law, and we know who sits on the bench). But on precedent they are obviously wrong! Also on moral grounds, not legal, they are wrong....but they have the system wrapped up and only about 10% to the 300,000,000 are saying anything against this BS.
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:26 pm | #
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Any law which violates the constitution is illegal unless it is fully ratified as a new amendment:
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Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
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Like the IRS/Federal Reserve, the elites know these laws are BS as they have never followed the constitutional guidelines to amend the constitution.

Just like the patriot act in which every major corporation has violated numerous times.

Look at how Bush talks about taxes, he know the IRS is illegal.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=36290#121119
All of this is pomp and circumstance and every court case challenging the patriot act wins.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:33 pm | #

Did you all hear Alex tell the Mason guy to tell Lucifer for me?
I laughed my ass off!
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 6:32 pm | #

dude where's my country???
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:21 pm | #

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I think it has been slowly dying since 1913. I am again becoming to cynical for words. I am heading out of town......big time.
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:28 pm | #

Freeway Campaigning for Ron Paul
5 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (4 ratings)
The Austin Ron Paul 2008 Meetup Group hits the street to campaign...Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...h? v=nBTS7tNY29o
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:27 pm | #

>>>>>>>>George Bush knows the IRS is a fraud, but only the elites can escape this fraud (this guy has got to be one of the stupidist people known to man to let this smoking gun out on over 20 separate occasions while he was president, I have noted 8 ):

7/14/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...0040714- 11.html
THE PRESIDENT: ...People need to be aware of this talk out of Washington, D.C. that says, oh, don't worry, we're just going to tax the rich. That's not the way it works in the tax code. The big rich dodge taxes, anyway. It's companies like this who end up paying more taxes.
8/3/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040830- 6.html
THE PRESIDENT: ...He said, tax the rich. You've heard that before haven't you? You know what that means. The rich dodge and you pay.
8/13/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040813- 7.html
THE PRESIDENT:...I'll give you one other thought. Let me just leave you with one other thought about taxing the rich. You know how that works. A lot of the rich are able to get accountants, so they don't -- they're able to dodge. You've seen it before. We're going to tax the rich, and then they figure out how not to get taxed.
8/28/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040828- 2.html
THE PRESIDENT: ...Every time they say, tax the rich, the rich dodge and you pay.
9/1/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040901- 6.html
THE PRESIDENT: ...You know what it means, tax the rich. It means the rich dodge and you get stuck with the bill.
9/3/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040903- 9.html
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah, we've heard that before, haven't we? First of all, you can't raise enough money by taxing the rich to support all his programs. Secondly, the rich figure out a way to dodge it, and you get stuck with the bill.
9/7/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...9/ 20040907.html
THE PRESIDENT:Yes. Oh, don't worry, we'll tax the rich. Well, that's why the rich hire accountants and lawyers. They dodge, you pay...
10/11/2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20041011- 2.html
THE PRESIDENT: ...Something else about taxing the rich -- the rich hire lawyers and accountants for a reason, to dodge the tax bill and stick you with it.
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WELCOME TO REALITY, NOW WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Then after he gets realected by saying he will not let the rich use the constitution to get out of paying taxes...he makes it easier for the elites:
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I.R.S. to Cut Tax Auditors Who Watch for Fraud Among Richest AmericansI.R.S. to Cut Tax Auditors Who Watch for Fraud Among Richest Americans ... called the cuts a “back-door way for the Bush administration to achieve what it ...
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles/ 2006/bush_cuts_tax_auditors.php - 16k - Cached - Similar pages
Bush Arrogantly Halves IRS Auditors For Wealthiest Few After ...Bush Arrogantly Halves IRS Auditors For Wealthiest Few After Congress Says "No" To His Cuts. Written by Jet in Columbus Published July 25, 2006. See also: ...
http://blogcritics.org/archives/...7/25/ 172227.php - 169k - Cached - Similar pages
Christopher Brauchli: Show and Tell at the IRSHis Last Hurrah: Bush Cuts and Runs from Reason. William Johnson ..... To couple the loss of a loved one with an audit by the IRS of the loved one's estate ...
http://www.counterpunch.org/ brau...li01122007.html - 104k - Cached - Similar pages
July 28, 2006 : Democrats Want Time to Review Bush Administration ...Democrats Want Time to Review Bush Administration Plan to Cut Most Productive IRS Auditors. Lawmakers Write: “We ask that you immediately delay this ...
http://www.house.gov/rothman/new...2006/ july28.htm - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
Clark Skatoff LLP : IRS to Cut Estate Tax AuditorsIRS to Cut Estate Tax Auditors. The New York Times is reporting that the Internal ... were obliged to pay estate taxes under President Bush’s legislation. ...
http://attorneyblawg.typepad.com/ skatoff/2006/07/irs_to_cut_esta.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
IRS Cans Elite Auditors, Undermining Estate Tax - The NewStandardCritics of a plan to eliminate IRS staff who audit the wealthy’s tax returns ... The 2001 Bush tax cuts included gradual estate-tax exemptions for wealthy ...
http://newstandardnews.net/conte....cfm/items/ 3482 - 21k - Cached - Similar pages
Bush Administration to Cut Tax Auditors - NewsCloud.comBush Administration to Cut Tax AuditorsThe federal government is moving to eliminate the jobs of ... Bush Administration Cuts Audit Staff at IRS for Wealthy ...
http://www.newscloud.com/read/Bush_ Administration_to_Cut_Tax_Auditors - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Thoughts of an Average Woman: If You Can't Pass the Paris Hilton ...Stop the firing of the 157 IRS auditors, immediately. Instead fire lackey, deputy commissioner Kevin Brown immediately, as ell as Bush crony Mark W. Everson ...
http://toaaw.typepad.com/toaaw/ 2...u_cant_pas.html - 40k - Cached - Similar pages
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Tyranny, police state, taxation without representation, monarchy, 2 systems of justice, 2 systems of taxation, leaders that lie and others that support the lies, dude where's my country???
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:21 pm | #

Keith Olbermann delivers arguably his most pointed and most powerful Special Comment yet on the ramifications of Bush’s commutation of Libby’s sentence.
Thank you Nicole Belle for the transcript!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-united-states/
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Finally tonight, as promised, a Special Comment on what is, in everything but name, George Bush’s pardon of Scooter Libby. “I didn’t vote for him,” an American once said, “But he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” That — on this eve of the 4th of July — is the essence of this democracy, in seventeen words. And that is what President Bush threw away yesterday in commuting the sentence of Lewis “Scooter” Libby. The man who said those seventeen words — improbably enough — was the actor John Wayne. And Wayne, an ultra-conservative, said them, when he learned of the hair’s-breadth election of John F. Kennedy instead of his personal favorite, Richard Nixon in 1960. “I didn’t vote for him but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” The sentiment was doubtlessly expressed earlier. But there is something especially appropriate about hearing it, now, in Wayne’s voice. The crisp matter-of-fact acknowledgement that we have survived, even though for nearly two centuries now, our Commander-in-Chief has also served, simultaneously, as the head of one political party and often the scourge of all others. We as citizens must, at some point, ignore a president’s partisanship. Not that we may “prosper” as a nation, not that we may “achieve”, not that we may “lead the world” — but merely that we may “function.” But just as essential to the seventeen words of John Wayne is an implicit trust — a sacred trust:That the president for whom so many did not vote, can in turn suspend his political self long enough, and for matters imperative enough, to conduct himself solely for the benefit of the entire Republic. Our generation’s willingness to state “we didn’t vote for him, but he’s our president, and we hope he does a good job,” was tested in the crucible of history, and far earlier than most. And in circumstances more tragic and threatening. And we did that with which history tasked us. We enveloped “our” President in 2001. And those who did not believe he should have been elected — indeed, those who did not believe he had been elected — willingly lowered their voices and assented to the sacred oath of non-partisanship. And George W. Bush took our assent, and re-configured it, and honed it, and sharpened it to a razor-sharp point, and stabbed this nation in the back with it.

Were there any remaining lingering doubt otherwise, or any remaining lingering hope, it ended yesterday when Mr. Bush commuted the prison sentence of one of his own staffers. Did so even before the appeals process was complete… Did so without as much as a courtesy consultation with the Department of Justice… Did so despite what James Madison –at the Constitutional Convention — said about impeaching any president who pardoned or sheltered those who had committed crimes “advised by” that president… Did so without the slightest concern that even the most detached of citizens must look at the chain of events and wonder: To what degree was Mr. Libby told: break the law however you wish — the President will keep you out of prison? In that moment, Mr. Bush, you broke that fundamental compact between yourself and the majority of this nation’s citizens — the ones who did not cast votes for you. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you ceased to be the President of the United States. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you became merely the President… of a rabid and irresponsible corner of the Republican Party. And this is too important a time, sir, to have a Commander-in-Chief who puts party over nation. This has been, of course, the gathering legacy of this Administration. Few of its decisions have escaped the stain of politics. The extraordinary Karl Rove has spoken of “a permanent Republican majority,” as if such a thing — or a permanent Democratic majority — is not antithetical to that upon which rests: our country, our history, our revolution, our freedoms. Yet our democracy has survived shrewder men than Karl Rove. And it has survived the frequent stain of politics upon the fabric of government. But this administration, with ever-increasing insistence and almost theocratic zealotry, has turned that stain… into a massive oil spill. The protection of the environment is turned over to those of one political party, who will financially benefit from the rape of the environment. The protections of the Constitution are turned over to those of one political party, who believe those protections unnecessary and extravagant and “quaint.” The enforcement of the laws is turned over to those of one political party, who will swear beforehand that they will not enforce those laws. The choice between war and peace is turned over to those of one political party, who stand to gain vast wealth by ensuring that there is never peace, but only war.

And now, when just one cooked book gets corrected by an honest auditor… When just one trampling of the inherent and inviolable “fairness” of government is rejected by an impartial judge… When just one wild-eyed partisan is stopped by the figure of blind justice… This President decides that he, and not the law, must prevail....
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:20 pm | #

Keith Olbermann delivers arguably his most pointed and most powerful Special Comment yet on the ramifications of Bush’s commutation of Libby’s sentence.
Thank you Nicole Belle for the transcript!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-united-states/
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I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war.
I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient.
I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors.
I accuse you of subverting the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but instead to stifle dissent.
I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought.
I accuse you of exploiting that unreasoning fear, the natural fear of your own people who just want to live their lives in peace, as a political tool to slander your critics and libel your opponents.
I accuse you of handing part of this republic over to a Vice President who is without conscience, and letting him run roughshod over it.
And I accuse you now, Mr. Bush, of giving, through that Vice President, carte blanche to Mr. Libby, to help defame Ambassador Joseph Wilson by any means necessary, to lie to Grand Juries and Special Counsel and before a court, in order to protect the mechanisms and particulars of that defamation, with your guarantee that Libby would never see prison, and, in so doing, as Ambassador Wilson himself phrased it here last night, of you becoming an accessory to the obstruction of justice.

When President Nixon ordered the firing of the Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox during the infamous “Saturday Night Massacre” on October 20th, 1973, Mr. Cox initially responded tersely, and ominously: “Whether ours shall be a government of laws and not of men, is now for Congress, and ultimately, the American people.” President Nixon did not understand how he had crystallized the issue of Watergate for the American people. It had been about the obscure meaning behind an attempt to break in to a rival party’s headquarters; and the labyrinthine effort to cover-up that break-in and the related crimes. But in one night, Nixon transformed it. Watergate — instantaneously — became a simpler issue: a President overruling the inexorable march of the law. Of insisting — in a way that resonated viscerally with millions who had not previously understood — that he was the law. Not the Constitution. Not the Congress. Not the Courts. Just him. Just - Mr. Bush - as you did, yesterday.

The twists and turns of Plame-Gate, your precise and intricate lies that sent us into this bottomless pit of Iraq; your lies upon the lies to discredit Joe Wilson; your lies upon the lies upon the lies to throw the sand at the “referee” of Prosecutor Fitzgerald’s analogy… these are complex and often painful to follow, and too much, perhaps, for the average citizen. But when other citizens render a verdict against your man, Mr. Bush — and then you spit in the faces of those jurors and that judge and the judges who were yet to hear the appeal — the average citizen understands that, sir. It’s the fixed ballgame and the rigged casino and the pre-arranged lottery all rolled into one — and it stinks. And they know it. Nixon’s mistake, the last and most fatal of them, the firing of Archibald Cox, was enough to cost him the presidency. And in the end, even Richard Nixon could say he could not put this nation through an impeachment. It was far too late for it to matter then, but as the decades unfold, that single final gesture of non-partisanship, of acknowledged responsibility not to self, not to party, not to “base,” but to country, echoes loudly into history. Even Richard Nixon knew it was time to resign Would that you could say that, Mr. Bush. And that you could say it for Mr. Cheney. You both crossed the Rubicon yesterday. Which one of you chose the route, no longer matters. Which is the ventriloquist, and which the dummy, is irrelevant. But that you have twisted the machinery of government into nothing more than a tawdry machine of politics, is the only fact that remains relevant. It is nearly July 4th, Mr. Bush, the commemoration of the moment we Americans decided that rather than live under a King who made up the laws, or erased them, or ignored them — or commuted the sentences of those rightly convicted under them — we would force our independence, and regain our sacred freedoms. We of this time — and our leaders in Congress, of both parties — must now live up to those standards which echo through our history: Pressure, negotiate, impeach — get you, Mr. Bush, and Mr. Cheney, two men who are now perilous to our Democracy, away from its helm. And for you, Mr. Bush, and for Mr. Cheney, there is a lesser task. You need merely achieve a very low threshold indeed. Display just that iota of patriotism which Richard Nixon showed, on August 9th, 1974.

Resign.

And give us someone — anyone – about whom all of us might yet be able to quote John Wayne, and say, “I didn’t vote for him, but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.”

Good night, and good luck.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:20 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:19 pm | #

Who are the FEMA, the MJTF and FINCEN? - An insider reveals a taste of things to come.
http://home.swipnet.se/allez/ Loc...cret_police.htm
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Good evening. Once again we're brought together here for an opportunity to discuss the direction that this nation is moving towards. My name is Mark Koernke; I'm from Michigan. We'll be covering all aspects of everything we possibly can concerning the New World Order operations inside the United States. To begin with, I originally worked as an intelligence analyst from 1975 through 1981, first with a company out of Arizona, and then I moved on to the Fifth US Army Intelligence Center, where I worked both as an intelligence analyst and as a counter -intelligence co-ordinator. Later through the eighties up until the present time, I commanded two brigades of special warfare units that train US military forces in foreign warfare and tactics. We're going to start with the MJTF police, where it came from, what it's original mission was, what its mission is now. Through a series of political actions that started around approximately March 1989, the federal government extorted resources from most of the states, in fact all 50 states simultaneously within a short period, by passing laws in every state authorising the use of federal funding to convert local and state forces into national police forces. The MJTF police - Multi Jurisdictional Task Force - is in virtually every state of the union of the United States at this time. Its primary mission is house-to-house search and seizure, separation and categorisation of men, women and children in large numbers, the transfer to detention facilities and the use of those facilities for interrogation purposes. The MJTF are regular national guard, local law enforcement and street gangs converted to national police services. Remember that this was originally organised under George Herbert Walker Bush. We all know of course now that President Clinton has proposed a national police force. This is simply another name, in fact an overt name for the MJTF police. Now the model for the MJTF police is that they are the velvet glove on the iron fist. Anybody who is familiar with some of the speeches that have taken place may recall ex-President Reagan speaking in England approximately two months ago and commenting that the United Nations forces would be the velvet glove on the steel fist - this is a very popular phrase. It has been used extensively by these people that are within the New World Order operation. I don't know how you feel about this, but any time I've been hit with an iron fist I usually don't feel too good and a velvet glove doesn't make much difference. It should be noted that most of the resources are being drawn from, again, federal fundings for regional governments. Now the MJTF police are supported through strategic reserve aircraft that have been transferred to their resource. They will convert almost all of the existing local police agencies to national police forces after they've lifted personnel they do not consider trustworthy, and they will also incorporate street gangs.

Now if anybody has seen the guidelines - and we have copies of both - the original stated that "house-to-house search and seizures will be performed by military, law enforcement and civilian personnel". We all know who the military are - that's anybody in a green uniform or a blue uniform or the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard. We understand that there would be people in the national guard, reserve and active, our active military forces. We know who law enforcement personnel are; they are the constables, the individuals that you have at your local level all the way up to and including our secret police in the United States, such as the FBI, Central Intelligence Agency and other agencies that might be at their disposal, Defense Intelligence Agency, etc. But who are the civilians that are going to come into your home? I don't recall there being any guidelines for that in the Constitution. If anybody has listened to national public radio you will note that on several different occasions, specifically the tenth month of 1992, it was announced, and in fact it was a one hour special programme on national public radio about converting the street gangs to law enforcement agencies. We had been talking about this for years prior to its action. We knew that there preparatory actions taking place. Through these activities a truce was signed by most of the large gangs in the city of Los Angeles. At the time, there were negotiations in process in Chicago; and this was also taking place in New York. Since the initial actions, a full agreement has been signed in Los Angeles and both the Crips and the Bloods are now being trained, equipped and uniformed with federal funding through California. Chicago has finalised this agreement last week. New York is in the process of doing so some time in the next few weeks and we can assume that they will do this very quickly. Their mission is to be the forefront, the master forces that come through the door. Remember that the average federal agent makes anywhere from $47,000 to $57,000 a year. he is more or less looking at his pension. He is not concerned with risking his life, especially if he can find someone to throw in front of him as a sandbag. That's the mission of these brute forces that being organised. Since last I spoke, probably the best example - I'm sure that everybody listening here has heard about Waco, Texas - these forces that were on the ground were not effective fighting forces. When you retreat and leave wounded and dead lying on the ground that's called a rout, it's not a retreat. And this is symptomatic of professional forces that are there for the money. On the other hand, if you use the old mediaeval pillage principle and you have a profit mechanism set up in which you're allowed to confiscate properties, cars, jewellery, furniture, the neighbour's wife, whatever, then you're highly motivated to go through that door - and especially if you have been doing it illegally for an extensive period of time, and all of a sudden they're giving you the opportunity to be legitimised.

Why let the street gang situation foster or flourish the way it did? We had more than the capability to restrict the street gangs at the time when they came about. Most assuredly we had the capacity to restrict them in any way that we wished to. However, by allowing the street gangs to flourish, you create regimentation. Then the strong come to the top. These are your NCO's and leaders. And when you are finished you simply put them in uniform, then you have an organised military force at your disposal. They're thugs, but they're expendable thugs. Remember that. Now, MJTF police operations. There are several police actions that have taken place within the last two years. Starting in 1991, they participated in or were part of Operation Achilles which was a sweep from the southern Ohio valley up through to Michigan, by both the BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) and MJTF forces, to harass and eliminate FFL (Federal Firearms License) holders who were manufacturers and producers of components and arms. Their primary concern was not to confiscate or charge somebody with illegal arms but rather to acquire records and resources that were available and in the hands of the people who held the FFL. In every case where they went into these businesses, the only thing that they took were the records of who purchased products and where they lived -very important to understand. There were a series of other activities that took place after this. MJTF was deployed in Los Angeles during the LA riots, though there was only slight mention of it. All of the agencies are overlapping and under the general authority of the United Nations. In 1992 through early 1993, reorganisation was taking place to try and give the MJTF a greater credibility. There is an interesting piece that just came out that I was most fascinated with regarding firearms laws. It's a book concerning the Gun Control Act of 1968 in which it has been demonstrated that the Gun Control Act of 1968 wasn't simply an American creation: it was taken from Nazi Germany's gun control laws of 1938 word for word. Now that's very important when you consider this because we're not talking a few paragraphs here and there. The entire document is taken from Nazi Germany's Gun Control Law of 1938. If they're already at that level in 1968, then where are you going to go with our gun laws now? It should be understood that the MJTF police are not trusted by the federal agencies and eventually will be done away with. Again, the MJTF are useful but eventually will be swept to the side. Moving on beyond the MJTF police are - FINCEN. FINCEN, or Financial Crime Enforcement Network personnel, have as much to do with finances as the SAS had to do with airplanes. The SAS, Special Air Service, was a cover name for an entity which existed in England and was the equivalent to the OSS of world War II, 1941-45. FINCEN forces are for house-to-house search and seizure, separation and categorisation of men, women and children, transfer to detention facilities, securing properties acquired, but not the maintaining of detention camps. That will be the mission of the MJTF police.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:18 pm | #

Who are the FEMA, the MJTF and FINCEN? - An insider reveals a taste of things to come.
http://home.swipnet.se/allez/ Loc...cret_police.htm
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I should mention very quickly the detention camps themselves. Originally under FEMA, 23 detention camps were authorised. These detention camps were spread out across the United States. In addition to that, there are 20 supplemental camps that were authorised with the 1990-91 military fiscal budget. Carl Levin's DoD budget amendment 656 authorised the implementation of these 20 camps to supplement the 23 that were already authorised. There are now 43 camps in total that are predeployed inside the continental United States. In addition to that, there are supplemental camps or auxiliary camps through each state and in each region. An example of this would be the Nike Hercules site located near Monroe. That is a predesignated detention facility. The three sites that are located in Michigan: number one is located due north of Pickney, Michigan, due west of Brighton; the second is earmarked near Lansing, Michigan, the north-north-east; the third is Fort Custer military reservation which has been upgraded from a D-facility to a B-facility. This is very important because a D-facility is state-authorised and state-controlled. A B-facility on the hand, has been upgraded to federal status and is comparable to any of our, for instance, military facilities such as Fort Benning, Georgia, Dwight Patterson Air Force Base, any facility that we are presently using for active military forces. Now, FINCEN was organised utilising foreign military personnel, as a secret police force here in the United States. They are drawn from military and secret police forces overseas. They are predominantly European. We have Belgian, Dutch, German, French and a variety of Asian military personnel. It is known at this time, for instance, that FINCEN has an element in Montana that is made up of Ghurkhas. The 197th, mechanised as of one week ago, has deployed for a training operation that may last as long as two months in northern Montana through the Canadian frontier. It is the 197th mechanised infantry combined with two brigades of British mechanised infantry, the first Canadian armoured division, Gurkha mercenary forces, one Belgian brigade, one EC and another undetermined number of forces, all foreign. They originally were scheduled to work for approximately three weeks in the area but if this is similar to the last mobilisation that took place, you will find that they will be there for up to two and a half, three months. FINCEN forces are ruthless. There are - and I will use the regional map here - a number of forces spread throughout the ten regions. For those of you who are not familiar with regionalism, regionalism is a form of government that we are about to experience if the New World Order people have their way. Under regionalism, Michigan becomes not Michigan but Area 5. As Area 5, our capitol will be in Chicago. Under the new states constitution this particular type of government comes into power, and we're going to find that all of a sudden we're going to be part of this warm fuzzy New World Order real quick. Unfortunately, we'd never vote for a governor again. The Governor will be directly assigned by the President. The forces involved that we're going to see in FINCEN will be very well educated. They are professional military forces. They are, for all practical purposes, mercenaries. You're going to find that they normally serve an eight-year tour unlike the old American mechanism which was a six year tour, a mixed time of active and reserve component with IRR (Independent Rating Reserve). There are a lot of military forces that are being sent overseas. Doesn't anybody wonder while in this time of peace we're sending more and more of our military strength to Bosnia-Hercegovina, Somalia, Thailand and has anybody heard about our forces in Peru? I imagine not. Well, I'll give you a good example. We have twenty to twenty-one thousand personnel right now sitting off Yugoslavia's coast or in Yugoslavia at this time. We have approximately 20,000 mixed personnel functioning in Somalia. And that's 40,000 combat personnel. In addition to that we have 22,000 - 23,000 in Cambodia. Now we've got 60,000 people overseas and most of them are combat troops. Let's go one step farther - Desert Storm - one of those little actions that was missed by everybody is that during executive orders that were signed, 18,000 US military personnel were sent to Peru for policing operations there under UN authority. Now, this documented. We've got people who are down there right now. There are families and there are mothers that are highly concerned about the people that are in that place. They have lost people there. People have been killed. This receives no publicity. Yet it's going on. it's a prime example of "watch my right hand, hey, you didn't see what was going on over here, did you?" That's what we have to worry about. These people control the media completely.

What I do a lot of times and I recommend you do the same thing is videotape what's going on television but ignore most of what they say. Pay attention to the photographs. If they're really concerned with something they won't feed you much. But in many cases they'll feel the general population isn't observant, and there is more in a picture than there is in all that gobbledegook and words that they've fabricated. You have to ask yourself when you look at pieces of equipment, activities, why is this taking place. Where is this taking place? Is this actually what's going on? If you look at the expressions of the individuals, the activities, the attitudes, you know that something doesn't taste right. A lot of military people coming are tickled pink to leave Somalia as fast as they can throw their feet on a 747 or a 737 Airbus. There is a reason for that. It is a situation that is typical of the type that the United Nations has put us into. Of course, by the way, we're paying the bill too. This is not good. It should be noted that a lot of personnel who are overseas - and we have personal contacts that are experiencing this right now - are having difficulties bringing family members back or sending family members back from Europe to the United States. We have three families in particular that are experiencing this right now. They are attempting to send their wives and children out of Europe back into the continental United States and the military will not do it, will not send them. They have not released the dependents, let alone the husband. This is interesting considering that we are not at war and we have no threat of war on the horizon that anybody could pick out, short of a few policing actions that are supposed to be very minor. The amount of force facing the American people right now is approximately the equivalent to several heavy infantry divisions with a couple of mixed mechanised divisions combined. We're looking at a little over 300,000 personnel that we could verify or that we could at least identify in different parts of the country. These forces include FINCEN elements through Montana, northern California, southern California, central Texas, the northern part of North Carolina, Fort Drum, the eastern seaboard including elements that are now stationed around the capitol of the United Sates, Washington DC. There are five FINCEN companies deployed there. I will mention this, that we put a great deal of heat on these people since we've begun to identify them. How many people have seen a newsclip every night when they watch the media, somebody takes one of those ski masks and puts it over their head and busts into somebody's home? Sixty minutes did a little piece on this just the other night, but it's what we've been talking about for a long time. Who is under the ski mask? If you're wearing a ski mask, how do you know who these people are? In fact, how do you even know that they're even law enforcement agents? Anybody can wear a uniform, and a ski mask hides the identity especially when nobody says anything. And even if they do, how could most people be sure? A ski mask does for a person at 3 in the afternoon what the KGB did at 12 midnight and 3 in the morning with a knock on the door. It is called terror. And the fact that we would allow that to happen in the United States is a disgrace to our country and a disgrace to our Constitution. I'll tell you one thing right now, when I was in the military we were trained to shoot people with ski masks on. We called them terrorists, bank robbers, you know, criminals. Only in this case now I guess they're hired by the government. It is very important to understand this because we cannot be lackadaisical in understanding the threat. They have progressively through gradualism gotten everybody in this mindset that this is an acceptable situation. It is not. It cannot be allowed. it cannot be allowed to continue. If these forces, for instance, are on the up and up, why not bring them into the light? Why conceal their activities? Why shroud them in darkness? Why shroud them in chaos? On the other hand , maybe we want a little chaos. Remember crisis management? Mr Kissinger brought this up first. Crisis management is a good thing. You're hearing it in the news, constantly, aren't we? Crisis management, crisis in Russia, crisis overseas, crisis in New York. With something like this of course, you create the problem, you demonstrate an answer and you execute the solution. But you've created all three. We're looking at the same thing right now here.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:17 pm | #

Who are the FEMA, the MJTF and FINCEN? - An insider reveals a taste of things to come.
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Now, UN (United Nations) combat forces - I'm going to interject these people real quick because all these people interlock and overlap - United Nations combat forces include those that are co-operating with FINCEN at this time in Montana, the elements that are in California - there were 21,000 of them identified south of Los Angeles and are probably deployed north-north-east of Los Angeles in Sacramento basin. The elements were located in Texas have shifted and by all indications are probably spread out through a series of garrisons. The Ohio valley, starting in the Cincinnati area and moving north-north-west, has forces deployed there. We know that these elements are also located at Fort Achuka, there are some in Fort Benning, Georgia. We know that an element was also located at Fort Drum. By the way, our processing center for detainees in the western half of the United States is Oklahoma city. We do not know what the location is for the eastern seaboard at this time; however, by all indications Fort Drum will be the control point for processing individuals to detention facilities on the eastern half of the United States east of the Mississippi. If there are any problems, what I would recommend for a lot of people that are concerned about this is that we observe the air, not the ground. However, I will say this: in Cleveland, for instance, we have friends and patriots who have photographed UN armour being transported by rail from east to west. Many of the people that have been in contact so far are both intelligence analysts or worked as intelligence analysts and counter-intelligence sergeants. They are experienced in observation and they know what they're doing. Because of this, we can rely upon their first-hand information. Most of the time, though, you are seeing FINCEN forces utilising rotary wing aircraft assets. Back in the early part of 1990, approximately 3,000 rotary aircraft were withdrawn from our strategic reserve or guard, these came from the mothball fleet. These units were transferred to FINCEN and painted in flat black, not flat green and not camouflaged green. These aircraft are in flat black. They bear no markings or identification to determine whether they are American or foreign national assets, no longer in the hands of the United States Air Force. We do supply and support them with your tax dollars but we do not control them completely now. FINCEN forces utilising these rotary assets have both heavylift aircraft and conventional attack aircraft. the heavy aircraft which may have been experienced in the area where I am speaking right now are the Chinook CH-47. It has a rotor front and rear and can carry up to 64 personnel in one lift. The first mission for FINCEN helicopter and support aircraft is to go in and actually control ground operations. They do not have to follow roads. They are not concerned with road blocks, obstructions, infrastructure damages etc. They can drop into an area and assert military forces, utilise those military forces to the best of their ability and, if they're needed somewhere else, lift and move them again. The second mission for these aircraft, though, is very important. Because of the detention camp mechanism that exists, they do not feel that it will be safe to transfer prisoners on the ground. That's why a large preponderance of the aircraft that they've received are heavy-lift aircraft capable of moving large numbers of people at once. Because of this, the Chinook's mission will be to transfer from pick-up points personnel who have been acquired and are put in temporary holding sites outside of each municipality. Here in the city where we are standing right now, somewhere in this vicinity in close proximity, there is a holding area; that is also what we call a POL point, petroleum, oil and lubricant point. These operations will bring the people by ground vehicle to this temporary detention site. They will never hit the ground again until they reach the detention facility itself. They will be picked up by the rotary wing aircraft, flown directly to the primary detention site that is closest or to a sorting facility where it will be determined whether they are a high threat or a low threat.

Remember MJTF police: their mission is separation and categorisation of men, women and children. They will not take some individuals - it's easier just to take the whole family if you feel its a threat. And this is their mission. Once they transfer to the sorting facility, families or individuals will be separated and then sent to primary holding areas. I guarantee that prior service/military personnel, patriots and individuals who possess firearms will not be released. That's why there are so many facilities. A good example of holding areas or of detention sites that we know of that are first-line pick-up points is Brighton Airport near Brighton, which is still a federally funded facility even though it's been rented out. It originally was an Army Air Corps aviation facility. The pick-up site for Ann Arbor is located due east of Ann Arbor on Liberty Road between Parker and Zeeb. We know that, for instance, the one near Jackson is located at the Jackson airport and is predesignated. Each metropolitan area has a pick-up site that has already been predetermined, every area. All you need to do is start to look and weedle your way into the FEMA mechanism. There is that evil word, FEMA - Federal Emergency Management Agency. Now we talked about this at the last meeting where I was talking to a large group of people, and this was before the articles started to come out through the federal papers about FEMA's activities throughout the United States in the eighties. FEMA is not a Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA is the secret government, legally. It's funded, made and supported through monetary expenditures designated through the Department of Defense, and also normal budgeting is taking place every year without government. FEMA has approximately 3,600 employees and yet, of the 3,600 employees, only about 59 to 63 actually deal with emergency management such as storms, disasters, hurricanes or man-made catastrophes such as nuclear attack. If only 60 of them are doing this. let me ask you one very basic question. What do the other 3,600 do? Well, their mission is to manage the system after they've taken it over. They utilise black budget or black bag funding. Black bag funding is covert operation funds authorised that cannot be challenged by public agencies or entities. They've been doing this for 13 years. Remember that FEMA was created originally by Zbigniew Brzezinski. Zbigniew Brzezinski worked for Jimmy Carter. However, after Ronald Reagan came into power, Zbigniew stayed over to complete operations and deployment of FEMA inside the United States. The issues of guns and drugs, drugs and guns came about approximately four years ago. The objective behind that was to create an environment or create a situation that these people could use. Before that it was internal economic catastrophe that was the mission of FEMA, to create Rex 84, Rex 85. Now the Rex series of programmes started up in 1981, and originally I participated in a programme that set up a series of actions which allowed for us, for instance, to surrender 50% of Florida. We weren't going to stop the Russians until they got to Orlando. We used to jokingly call it the Disney line. And we weren't going to make any attempt to get it back either. If you look at the globalist map though, and if you look at the final solution through the UN Charter, we lose a good portion of the United States. The way the nation is divided up, the United States of America will cease to exist. Right now we are very close to them accomplishing what they want, very close. And I cannot emphasise that enough. With most of these actions, they have always looked at the prospect of disarming the American people first. It is the most important issue that we should concern ourselves with at this time.
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Anyway, what I'd like to get into next are activities and future proposed actions inside the United States by a variety of organisations including the MJTF police, FINCEN and UN battle groups that will be deployed against the American people. First of all, we'll go back to early 1989 when originally, in smoke-filled rooms behind closed doors, some committee of political monkeys decided that it was time to go after the weapons inside the United States. In doing so, what they did is decide to come up with a programme called guns, drugs, drugs, guns. If you have a gun, you must be a drug dealer. This was everybody, private firearms owners, skeet shooters, whatever. Our response as law-abiding American citizens was supposed to be "Oh, God, take my guns, I'm not a drug dealer, oh please". Only unfortunately, what happened as far as the government is concerned, is the American people started to rearm themselves very quickly. We surveyed a lot of different shows throughout the United States, in the Midwest specifically. In fact, in some cases we covered three different cities in two different states within a 10-hour period. And what we saw wasn't people trying to get rid of their weapons; in fact that wasn't the case at all. You notice people weren't selling anything and were buying more. It was shoulder to shoulder, elbow to elbow, rear end to front, and heel to toe, and everybody was bringing everybody's uncle in to buy weapons, munitions, equipment. And we saw this from Kentucky and Tennessee to Pennsylvania to New Jersey to Michigan, Indiana, Illinois. The effect that their guns, drugs, drugs, guns programme had is that the patriots out there started to talk to people and said, "See, this is what we told you was going to happen". And after surveying a few shows I'm sure that the intelligence information coming back through the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms people and also from other agencies that were monitoring the gun shows that the result was not exactly what they wanted either. More ammunition and weapons passed through the FFL dealers and through firearms sellers at gun shows in the three months of 1990 than in the last 15 years prior to that, all sales combined. In some cases over a million rounds of ammunition were sold off of ammunition dealers tables. Thousands of conventional firearms, virtually hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars worth of equipment such as field gear, boots, uniforms, medical support items, these were all going out and disappearing. It used to be when Fred Schmidlap and Jim and myself would go over to the gun show; we'd go in and, well, let's go buy something. We'd go buy it, we'd take it home, fire it up a little bit; we thought it was neat but it was that vogue toy for the month. We got done with it we might take it back in, we'd sell it and we'd go buy something else. There was a used firearms market. Today, there is no used firearms market. There is a reason for that. Everything that is in the hands of the people is being absorbed. This is happening right now again. It's as if somebody cut an artery and the weapons are just gushing out. In fact, the people cannot keep up with demand enough.

Now because of this, they are getting a tad concerned again. The effect of the guns, drugs, drugs, guns campaign should have been for people to just hand things over or try to dispose of the weapons because they were fearful of being prosecuted by the government. When in 1990 it was realised that they weren't exactly going to accomplish their original mission, they had to change their timetable a little we think. By the third month it was realised that the militia forces, civilian arms were bludgeoning it at a massive proportion. The structured forces that were inside that were deployed, including Operation Achilles which we mentioned before, began to reduce their actions because of notoriety and the fact that they were seeing more aggressive stances on the part of the population that they were attacking. Unfortunately, like cockroaches, you can spray and they keep coming back. So by late 1992 the latest guns, drugs, drugs, guns campaign escalated with a variety of other actions overlapping. It's a threat to your children. Well, not if you train your children properly. It's a threat to society. Well this society isn't monarchal England, it isn't pharaonic Egypt, and we most certainly aren't the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Because of that we trust our people with firearms; in fact, we are the government, therefore we're the one who should have firearms. I think everybody forgets that. We, the people. We have an obligation and a responsibility. Now during this time, from late 1992 to the early part of 1993 we've seen a series of other actions take place in which firearms confiscations, house-to-house, door-to-door, have taken place. Operation Clean Sweep in Chicago, Operation Achilles II in Cleveland, and a series of actions that took place after the Los Angeles riots, not against the street gangs, but against the citizens who defended their homes and their businesses. Remember the Koreans who were on top of their roofs? Strangely enough the government used the videotapes that were made to track down these homeowners and they are now being prosecuted for using their weapons to defend themselves. And this is an ongoing programme. You're not seeing this in the general media because it wouldn't exactly bode well with the rest of us. Because of this it is realised they're going to have intensify, and in fact heavily intensify, their campaign. During the earlier phases, for instance in Chicago, the black helicopter missions that we were talking about in the early hour were taking place extensively. We have individuals who were in high-rises who were actually above helicopters flying between the high-rises in Chicago, in the windy city. These operations culminated in a final activity which lasted approximately one week in which they blocked off neighbourhoods, went building to building and house to house, entered forcibly if necessary and prosecuted the owners of any firearms, ammunition or gun parts found. This was Operation Clean Sweep. In Cleveland an activity which was covered only by national public radio involved elements of the MJTF police and probable FINCEN forces. The Ohio guard was mobilised from several different areas in the state, transferred to an area outside the Cleveland airport where a mount area - that's an urban warfare training area - was set up with three neighbourhoods. The units that were brought in were trained in house-to-house search and seizure and securing a neighbourhood. They then went into the first training neighbourhood, went house to house, secured the neighbourhood and then attacked a second neighbourhood. Once they had secured the second neighbourhood they had to hold the first two and went to get a third neighbourhood. After these elements were trained and passed through this mechanism, they were transferred to different parts of Cleveland where they were actually deployed against the population.

This happened about the same time that the Weaver incident took place in Idaho. It was almost simultaneous. In fact, a series of actions both in Cleveland and one here in Michigan took place either during or shortly after the Weaver incident. Now in Cleveland this received media coverage. In some parts of Ohio this received media coverage. But it received no national media attention except for one place, national public radio, who thought that this was the next best thing to sliced white bread - that they had violated people's homes, that they had gone into different parts of the city and that they had done this. The Waco situation, which was typical of a lot of what we're going to be seeing in the future - although I think you're going to see even more ham-handedness - involved a 100-130 man assault company of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, probably under MJTF authority again. It should be understood that as of March 1989, the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) forces were divided up into these assault companies. Each platoon consists of 40 men armed with M16 A2 rifle, the AR15 9mm conversion, or the M79 grenade launcher. It is now known that these forces also include the M60 machine gun which is an infantry battle weapon now being deployed with policing agencies - you know like they have in Russia. It was interesting to note that this assault company in Texas was identical to the type of forces that were used during Operation Achilles in the Ohio Valley coming up into Michigan. The forces are in all-black BDU uniform. They wear the black pascat armour, the black pascat helmet which looks quite like the German. They are armed, equipped and maintained through DoD resources. So many of the weapons that they are provided with are actually provided by our military. In many cases Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the FBI, DEA are now receiving training both at Quantico and many of them have gone through the US Ranger School. That's rather exotic training for people who are supposed to be police officers in the United States. On the other hand, if you again need thugs, you've got to send them some place where they can learn to be fairly efficient thugs. Many of the people that we have had that went through ranger school in the last year said that up to 50% of their company were made up of Federal Bureau of Investigation people and individuals who were involved with Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms or the Drug Enforcement Agency. Now DEA, by the way, has what we call CLET units. CLET units are directly under the control of the Treasury and/or can be accessed by the MJTF police or FINCEN. CLET are armed identically to the ATF combat elements and are deployed throughout the United States and can be used overseas.
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F.E.M.A. - It is the most powerful organisation in the United States and most people don't even know it exists!
FEMA is not a Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA is the secret government, legally. It's funded , made and supported through monetary expenditures designated through the Department of Defence.
http://home.swipnet.se/allez/ Loc...cret_police.htm
By Linda Thompson.
FEMA stands for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. It isn't an elected body, it has a quasi-secret budget in the billions of dollars, and it has more power than the President of the United States and most people don't even know it exists! It was originally created to ensure the survival of the US government in the event of a nuclear attack. It was also provided the task of being a federal co-ordinating body during times of domestic disasters, such as earthquakes and hurricanes.. But it wasn't created under constitutional law or an act of Congress; it was created by EXECUTIVE ORDER. There was an act, called the Emergency Management Act, that was passed in 1935. This act says that the President can issue executive orders in times of national emergency. Since that time, we have always had a declared state of "National Emergency" in the United States, even though you didn't know it. You can find these "declarations of National Emergency" in the Combined Federal Register and the records of Congress. We are in one right now. Many executive orders have been issued since them. The order enacting FEMA is one of them. Since only Congress has the authority to appropriate funds, the executive order creating this agency is unconstitutional or, at best, it should have remained unfunded.

An executive order, whether constitutional or not, becomes effective upon publication in the Federal Register. Congress is bypassed. General Richard Secord and Lt. Col. Oliver North who orchestrated the Iran-Contra operation that smuggled in weapons and cocaine to this country, using our CIA and US Air Force to do it, were in charge of FEMA for several years during which it grew into the monster it is today. Some of the black helicopter traffic reported throughout the United States are flown by FEMA personnel. FEMA has been given responsibility for many new disasters in addition to floods, hurricanes, and earthquakes, including urban forest fires, home heating emergencies, refugee situations, urban riots, and emergency planing for nuclear and toxic incidences. In the West, FEMA works "in conjunction with" the 6th Army. FEMA has only spent about 6% of its budget on national emergencies. The bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to "assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic" and to build prisons and "holding facilities" under the designation of "refugee facilities" (which have never been used for holding refugees of any sort).

Executive Order #12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic surveillance of US citizens and restrict freedom of movement within the United States, granting to the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard may be used to seal all borders and take control of US air space and all ports of entry.

The following orders are written but not implemented and could be implemented at any time, suspending the Constitution of the United States using FEMA to do it:
Executive Order #10990 - allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and to control all highways and seaports.
Executive Order #10995 - allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
Executive Order #10997 - allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuel and minerals.
Executive Order #10998 - allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
Executive Order #11000 - allows the government to mobilise civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
Executive Order #11001 - allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions
Executive Order #11002 - designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
Executive Order #11003 - allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
Executive Order #11004 - allows the housing and finance authorities to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned and establish new areas for populations.
Executive Order #11005 - allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
Executive Order #11051 - specifies the responsibilities of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorisation to put all executive orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
Executive Order #11310 - grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in executive orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions and to advise and assist the President.
Executive Order #11049 - assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21operative issued over a 15 year period.
Executive Order #11921 - allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in US financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
Extracted from a transcript of a speech given in June 1993. .Books, audio and video tapes on this sort of material are available from TRAX 332 W. Martin Lane, Murray, Utah, 84107, USA. Phone (801) 262 3601
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:16 pm | #

Hey fluid, what was that you said about no "jack-booted thugs" breaking into citizen homes and taking their belongings and their liberty? Does this count?
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http://www.digitaljournal.com/ ar...pside_Down_Flag
N.C. Couple Arrested Over Upside Down Flag

http://www.greenstateproject.com...year-old-woman/
A 92-year-old Woman is dead.
Was it the right address? Police said yes.
All Police officers were convicted for multiple crimes. They should have been tried for Murder.

http://la.indymedia.org/news/200...6/11/ 187865.php
Feldman was awarded $75,000 by the City of Santa Monica last year.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/ na...5647903672.html
POLICE and security agencies will be given unprecedented "sneak and peek" powers to search people's homes and computers — without court approval

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/ new...constitutio.php
Appeals Court Rules FBI Violated Constitution During Jefferson Raid

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All I can say, This punk needs to do his home work before he comes to a site of educated people and spews his bullshit.
He is either an idiot or a shill.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:15 pm | #

Congress may not have passed it; however, they have allowed it: I would say that this order violate I, IV, & V. But I will not claim to be a scholar of our constitution. I will, however, say that this shit stinks...all of it. Just remember everything Hitler did was legal! Once again I must ask you fluid, do you like the state of things? DO you think the process is working?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56782
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...s/r...20070717- 3.html
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:05 pm | #
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They have passed it, some of the laws limiting free speech:

Patriot Act
Military Commissions Act
New and old FISA agreements
Anything to do with FCC
NAFTA

Read the bills, they either snuff out/restrict/supress free speech.

Picking up someone off the street, flying them in a CIA plane to a secret prison in Poland for 5 years restricts their free speech and they are not a "private entity." They are a human being granted inalienable rights and human rights.

Do not let them trick you into thinking anything they are doing as being legal. It is being done secretly, then condescendingly and Pompously [like, "see what we can do with you?"].

IT IS ALL STILL ILLEGAL.

It is not enforced by the rule of law but by the rule of POLICE POWER.

We are being conned big time.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:13 pm | #

The elites truly love our children. They want to eat them up and love them to death.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:58 pm | #

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I cannot take anymore!
BTW: have you seen fluid around before?
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:06 pm | #

Please indicate where Congress passed a law or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...which is a required element.

You do know the First Amendment doesn't apply to private entities, don't you, Mr. Constitution man?

Off to a baseball game, do take care of yourself...in all regards.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:53 pm | #

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Congress may not have passed it; however, they have allowed it: I would say that this order violate I, IV, & V. But I will not claim to be a scholar of our constitution. I will, however, say that this shit stinks...all of it. Just remember everything Hitler did was legal! Once again I must ask you fluid, do you like the state of things? DO you think the process is working?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ new...RTICLE_ID=56782
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20070717- 3.html
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 6:05 pm | #

BUSH = CLINTON

CLINTON = BUSH

Spibooks: COMPROMISED:
Clinton, Bush, And The CIA
by John ...This Arkansas-CIA connection became Clinton’s darkest secret – a secret he shared by then Vice-President Bush, who himself was compromised by his ...
http://www.spibooks.com/ merchant...Code=1561712493 - 40k - Cached - Similar pages

The Mena Arkansas Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Drug ConnectionThe training of pilots, loading of weapons, drugs at Mena Arkansas. Who was the governor of Arkansas at the time and who was our Presidents?
http://www.dldewey.com/columns/menaf.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

MENAIn 1996, Pat released Obstruction of Justice: The Mena Connection, which tells the story and ... Clinton and Bush - Co-accomplices in CIA Drug Industry ...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.co.../MENA/ mena.html - 52k - Cached - Similar pages

Scoop: Sam Smith: The Bush Clinton NexusIt reminded me of the strange Bush and Clinton connection all over again." Later, D'Amato said to Brown, "C'mon, L. D., let's go take a leak. ...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/H...0502/ S00155.htm - 45k - Cached - Similar pages

BILL CLINTON and CIA DRUGS for GUNS, and IRAN/CONTRA, NCOICARKANSAS GOVERNOR BILL CLINTON PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH CIA DRUGS FOR GUNS CONNECTION. By Paul DeRienzo. An independent group of researchers in Arkansas are ...
http://www.ncoic.com/clinton.htm - 13k - Cached - Similar pages

The Nixon-Clinton ConnectionTHE NIXON-CLINTON CONNECTION Stuart K. Hayashi ... Clinton took office after George Bush, who is a wrinkled, grumpy old man. In Bush's time, the economy was ...
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBe...on- clinton.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
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Breaking Wire-Clinton - Bush Connection To Warrantless Wiretapping And The CIA Exposed Introduction To Clinton, Bush Connection To Warrantless Wiretapping And The CIA ...
http://www.newstimedaily.com/ Pag...tonbushcia.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages

Clinton White House Saw Saddam-Osama ConnectionIn retaliation, Bill Clinton used an Iraq-al-Qaida connection, Hayes said, ... Richard Clarke, the counterterrorism czar for both Clinton and Bush who, ...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/...11/ 154020.shtml - 34k - Cached - Similar pages

Bush Family Nazi Connection Clear evidence that the Bush family has ties to Hitler ...
http://www.youtube.com/?v=RnAUQeHykXY
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 6:04 pm | #

WELCOME TO THE UNHACKABLE NATIONAL ID TECHNOLOGY
RFID Hack Could Allow Retail FraudA German consultant has released a tool that its creator says will allow modifications of the code stored within RFID tags, theoretically allowing consumers ...
http://www.eweek.com/article2/ 0,...,1628696,00.asp
Exxon Mobile SpeedPass Hack via RFIDTired of paying for gas Are you a geek with a laptop, knowledge of the Texas Instruments RFID spec and live near an Exxon Mobile gas station equipped with ...
http://www.marketingshift.com/2005/ 1/exxon-mobile-speedpass-hack-via-rfid.cfm
Wired 14.05: The RFID Hacking UndergroundThey can steal your smartcard, lift your passport, jack your car, even clone the chip in your arm. And you won't feel a thing. 5 tales from the RFID-hacking ...
http://www.wired.com/wired/archi...14.05/ rfid.html
Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise. - Engadgetas far as a retailer not takeing numbers, there are plenty of places that would. the person that is hacking rfid for peoples information is not going to go ...
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/ researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/ - 128k
rfid music player - Hack a DayFiled under: misc hacks, portable audio hacks. sid rfid. don't take off your tinfoil hats quite yet, but just when you thought rfid tags were all about the ...
http://www.hackaday.com/2005/03/...d-music-player/ - 28k - Jun 24, 2007
rfid dartmail - Hack a DayThe head of the Dart contains an RFID tag. By waving the tag over the reader, the 'shooter' can attach a handle to any electronic file (located in a shared ...
http://www.hackaday.com/2005/02/.../rfid-dartmail/ - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
The RFID Weblog: Software to Hack RFID TagsImplementation and Application of RFID technology.
http://www.rfid-weblog.com/ 50226...k_rfid_tags.php - 106k
RFID Hack Tool Released at Blackhat--Ridge RFID Hack Could Allow Retail Fraud By Mark Hachman July 29, 2004 LAS VEGAS-A German consultant has released a tool that its creator says will allow ...
http://www.interesting-people.or...8/ msg00012.html
Digg - Free Gas! Just hack RFIDJust hack RFID. You can Hack a gasoline speed pass in 15 minutes! Submitted:: 1 year 90 days ago; Submitter:: All4not All4not (news: submissions, diggs, ...
http://digg.com/security/ Free_Ga..._Just_hack_RFID
Photo: Prying open an ePassport | CNET News.comLukas Grunwald, a researcher at DN-Systems attending the Defcon hacker convention in Las Vegas, demonstrates how RFID-equipped cards can be read with a ...
http://news.com.com/2300-1029_3-..._3- 6102766.html
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All of our soldiers now use RFID Tags on their body armor, weapons, Identification, almost every standard issue. How do you think the enemy (directed by Dick Cheney), knows exactly where our kids are? The RFID in the military is one of the greatest national security threats around. Soon we will all carry this easily fraudable units. It will have data on our children such as pictures and locations so that whenever an elite gets an urge, under executive order subheading: "By Any Means Necessary," they can be targteted. Even just to extend the war or stop them from going to the press like Pat Tillman.

For more on how elites "pick" the abductable child before they are abducted using creative surveillance [Think of it as the Beta Version of RFID] read the Franklin Cover-Up or watch Conspiracy of Silence.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...110250157218995
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Con...racy_of_Silence
http://www.rense.com/general61/ a...onspiracyof.htm
http://www.franklincase.org/silence.htm
http://www.thelawparty.com/Frank...linCover- up.htm
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ f...upexcerpt.shtml
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...4johndecamp.htm
http://www.franklincase.org/

The elites truly love our children. They want to eat them up and love them to death.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:58 pm | #

Welcome to the Free America, ran by the Zionist.
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 5:51 pm | #

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Mny I speak to refuse to hear. They scofff. They rationalize. They deny, deny, deny; because their mental life is all a lie. The truth is to heay a burden fr many of our people...they are still our people. They need to be treated as innocents and protected.....
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 5:56 pm | #

The Satanic Rothschild Dynasty - Financial Wizzards and Wealthy Cults
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63628/...d-Wealthy- Cults
Mullins - The World Order - A Study in the Hegemony of Parasitism (1985)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63847/...Parasitism- 1985
Marrs - Rule by Secrecy - The Hidden History That Connects The Trilateral Commission, The Freemasons
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63846/...t-Pyramids- 2000
Kundalini - Preventing the Apocalypse - Sam Fryman
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63845/...ypse-Sam- Fryman
Icke - Children of the Matrix - How an Interdimensional Race has Controlled the World for Thousands
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63841/...Still-Does- 2001
Guillen - The Vatican's Mafia (ex-Monsignor exposes corruption inside Vatican) (2003)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63840/...de-Vatican- 2003
Bernays - Propaganda (how the media molds your mind) (1928 )
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63837/...-your-mind- 1928
100 Ways to Disappear and Live Free
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63836/...r-and-Live- Free
KAP, Quantum Gravity, Generalized Theory of Gravitation, and Superstring Theory
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63835/...sed- Unification
Edgar Cayce, The Children Of The Law Of One And The Lost Teachings Of Atlantis - By Jon Peniel
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63834/...s-By-Jon- Peniel
lluminati - Mind Control (DID-MPD child abuse torture satanism lsd cia ufo 748pg)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63832/...d-cia-ufo- 748pg
The Power of Now - A Guide to Spiritual Enlightment by Eckhart Tolle
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63831/...y-Eckhart- Tolle
Confessions of an Economic Hitman-John Perkins
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19489/...manJohn- Perkins
Published in 1776, Common Sense challenged the authority of the British government and the royal monarchy. The plain language that Paine used spoke to the common people of America and was the first work to openly ask for independence from Great Britain.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/99317/...17/Common- Sense
Thomas Paine Origin of Freemasonry 1818
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13184/...-of- Freemasonry
General Relativity by Albert Einstein:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/127168...ral- Relativityy
Albert Einstein - Contemplating the cosmos:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/103152...ting-the- cosmos
Albert Einstein - The World As I See It
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48868/...rld-As-I-See- It
Einstein & Faith
http://www.scribd.com/doc/25697/.../Einstein- Faith
Banned Books:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/45597/...97/Banned- Books
George Van Tassel - The Council Of Seven Lights
http://www.scribd.com/doc/39229/...Of-Seven- Lights
Serpent Code
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80515/...15/Serpent- Code
Spirals symbols and snakes - Finding clues to our serpent worshipping past
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80516/...bols-and- snakes
Fritz Springmeier - Bloodlines Of The Illuminati (1995)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63614/...Illuminati- 1995
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:56 pm | #

Got that 50 sighted in at 1.5 yet??
Henry Bowman | 07.24.07 - 10:49 pm | #
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We damn well might need it.
If they keep fucking with Ron Paul.
I am spreading the word about Ron Paul.
And I donated $1000.00 to his campaign.
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 5:54 pm | #

Stop debating the constitution with me with false arguments. You are insulting both of our intelligence levels by doing so.
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You're alright sane. You're allllllright. Maybe you should take a Constitutional Law class and really learn something. It sounds like you could use it. Just a thought/suggestion.

Oh, by the way, you do know the First Amendment doesn't apply to private entities don't you? Bear in mind I was replying SPECIFICALLY to this quotation of yours, and nothing more:

"There are many new viewers on thread 60 looking for info on Ron Paul because of the ne article on PP. So let's not bring up old shit, but give them the information on Ron and act as if we were presenting evidence to the founding fathers to let them decise whether or not there is a media blackout thus a violation of the constitution's first amendment"

Please indicate where Congress passed a law or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...which is a required element.

You do know the First Amendment doesn't apply to private entities, don't you, Mr. Constitution man?

Off to a baseball game, do take care of yourself...in all regards.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:53 pm | #

By the way, I have to go to a baseball game.** Did you copy that Ron? I have to go to a baseball game. I will not be available to respond to your posts for several hours. Did you copy that Ron? I WILL NOT BE HERE AND I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO REPSOND TO YOUR POSTS for several hours, possibly into tomorrow.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:41 pm | #

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Thanks for the explanation:
It was the lead story on HuffPo (not my favorite source).
Headline:
Bush Admin On The Hunt: FBI Raided Fmr DOJ Lawyer's Home In Search For Wiretapping Leaker
(still leading as of now)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
have fun at the game....
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 5:52 pm | #

Over 100 million are awake but silenced through blackouts/control/media manipulation:
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You can say that again, and again.
In a Police State, the media is controlled.
Welcome to the Free America, ran by the Zionist.
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 5:51 pm | #

>>DOES BLOWBACK EXIST?

BlowbackTerrorism by definition strikes at the innocent in order to draw attention to the sins ... "Blowback" is a CIA term first used in March 1954 in a recently ...
http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...0011015/ johnson - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
YouTube - Blowback definitionFormer cia agent describes the meaning of Blowback. ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...h? v=1q8GA4ja2Y0
Central Intelligence Agency: Definition and Much More from Answers.comThe Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was created in 1947 with the passage ...... Blowback: America's recruitment of Nazis and its effects on the Cold War. ...
http://www.answers.com/topic/cen...lligence- agency - 376k - Cached - Similar pages
Blowback Blowback The Costs and Consequences of American EmpireBlowback from this led to a Marxist guerrilla insurgency in the 1980s and so to CIA- and Pentagon-supported genocide against Mayan peasants. ...
http:// www.thirdworldtraveler.co...owback_BCJ.html - 38k - Cached - Similar pages
The American Empire ProjectIn its most rigorous definition, blowback does not mean mere reactions to ... and ‘assets’ and the like—the CIA warns of the possibilities of ‘blowback. ...
http:// www.americanempireproject...ISBN=0805075593 - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
Blowback by Chalmers JohnsonMany see the 9/11 attacks on the United States as blowback from CIA training and support of the muhajadeen ... Further definition of 'Blowback' and examples ...
http://www.jjraymond.com/books/n...n/ blowback.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages
World Prout Assembly: The Torture Policy BlowbackBy strict definition, shall we have to declare that each small family unit is a ... But no accountability was demanded of the CIA, private contractors, ...
http:// www.worldproutassembly.or...orture_pol.html - 65k - Cached - Similar pages
Blowback - a work in progress by Mark WillisThe term "blowback" originated inside the C.I.A. as a euphemism for the unexpected consequences of geopolitical events in which the C.I.A. had a hand. ...
http://www.wright.edu/~mark.will...e/ blowback.html - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
The Public Eye : Website of Political Research Associates-Blowback ...The first major CIA operation in the post war world was in Iran in 1953. .... and the definition of terrorism as a crime against humanity.” ...
http://www.publiceye.org/frontpa...11/ burbach.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:49 pm | #

Holding my breath.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:32 pm | #

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Oh so now I understand why you have failed to address the direct questions I have asked. I think that persons who break the "law" will suffer greatly and in dramatic fashion; however, we cannot ignore, norshould we, the illegal search and seizures and or possible disapearing of folks and their personal effects. I hope that you will take the time to read and answer the questions I have put to you in the previous two posts.
Thanks
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 5:49 pm | #

Hey fluid, what was that you said about no "jack-booted thugs" breaking into citizen homes and taking their belongings and their liberty? Does this count?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 3:19 pm | #
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A soldier raped and killed a girl while serving in Iraq. He was appropriately punished (except for the possible parole after 10 years). How is that indicative of a police state, which I clearly indicated with "jack-booted thugs". Bad people do bad things. It happens.
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Hmmmm. Maybe you weren't referencing the Iraqi soldier. I just noticed this "Page not found
Our web servers cannot find the page or file you asked for. The link you followed may be broken or expired." is returned from your link. The "soldier" story was the first one listed so I thought that was your intended target.

But perhaps you intended to link to a story of how a police officer maybe did the same thing as the soldier, or worse. It still doesn't work. Demonstrate that such an example is widespread and common. Demonstrate that the officer involved was not punished. Demonstrate how this wasn't just a bad person (or a good person) doing a bad thing; show me he was ordered to do it by his superiors as part of the police state/martial law plan. Thank you in advance.

By the way, I have to go to a baseball game.** Did you copy that Ron? I have to go to a baseball game. I will not be available to respond to your posts for several hours. Did you copy that Ron? I WILL NOT BE HERE AND I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO REPSOND TO YOUR POSTS for several hours, possibly into tomorrow.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:41 pm | #

I can tell you feel the urgency as well. I am also shocked that, it seems like, over 85% of Americans are absolutely clueless................NO IDEA!!

Peace | 08.05.07 - 5:26 pm | #
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On the contrary, latest poll:

People who want a 3rd party - 87%

Over 100 million are awake but silenced through blackouts/control/media manipulation:

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Bernays Propaganda 1928:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63837/...-your-mind- 1928
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Interesting articles about media strategy and the iraq war:
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=34709
http://www.globalissues.org/Huma...ia/ Military.asp
http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues...2002Q4/ war.html
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Great videos on the issue of Media Control of Political Issues:

Spin - Brian Singer 1992
http://video.google.com/ videopla...181953466797353

Orwell Rolls In His Grave
http://video.google.com/ videopla...655342219448521

Network
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M...h? v=MTN3s2iVKKI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h?v=dib2- HBsF08

CBC - The Fifth Estate : The Lies That Led To War
http://video.google.com/ videopla...535985718796639
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CFR / NAU & 2008 Presidential Candidates

Save America from the CFR Takeover!
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"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton

"Once the ruling members of the CFR shadow government have decided that the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of (the) CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy, and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition."
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government."
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
http://www.fdrs.org/cfr_quotes.html
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:40 pm | #

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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First Amendment protects the right to a free press. Take a look at what it takes to create a nework/cable/satellite TV show and you will see the violation with your own eyes. This is besides the targeted journalists that Cheney kills ewith executive order "By Any Means Necessary." Journalists like Daniel Pearl that was beheaded in a Neo-Con Snuff Film.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:20 pm | #
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Daniel Pearl was not a "private entity" when Cheney gave the execution orders, same with Pat Tillman. And either is any other American citizen that is denied the freedom to distribute media such as print/airwaves/satellite/cable due to artificially influenced economic barriers.

Stop debating the constitution with me with false arguments. You are insulting both of our intelligence levels by doing so. Please debate it if you wish regarding sound methods and we may be able to see clearly how to restore this beautiful republic.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:38 pm | #

I can tell you feel the urgency as well. I am also shocked that, it seems like, over 85% of Americans are absolutely clueless................NO IDEA!!

Peace | 08.05.07 - 5:26 pm | #

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Wait a minute, what to those famous (infamous?) polls that indicated 84% believe the government was reponsible for 9/11? How did you calculate your 85% figures? Could you illustrate please?

Geez, this is fucked, a done deal. Just a matter of time now.

Peace | 08.05.07 - 5:26 pm | #
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Holding my breath.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:32 pm | #

>>>KING BUSH UPSET THAT PEOPLE NO LONGER BELIEVE HIS LIES ABOUT AMNESTY AND RFID
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Imperial President Visits Imperious Senate to Promote Intemperate - PR Newswire (press release), NY
http://sev.prnewswire.com/govern...12062007- 1.html
The president met today with Republican legislators in an effort to pressure them into reviving a bill that would grant amnesty to 12 million or more ...
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American Daily Don’t Resurrect the Amnesty Bill Kaye Grogan - Opinion Editorials, VA
http:// www.opinioneditorials.com...n_20070614.html
There is no way on God’s green earth that the majority of the American people are going to believe the pro-amnesty group in Washington, DC--( mainly ...
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Angus Reid Global Monitor Spinning the immigration pole - Washington Times, DC
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/2...11527- 4918r.htm
Com, Mr. Medved launched into a searing attack on "hysterical" denunciations of amnesty on talk radio, and erroneously asserted that under the Senate bill ...
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Family Security Matters Senate Supporters Still Vow to Push Amnesty Bill Through - Family Security Matters, NJ - Jun 13, 2007
http://www.familysecuritymatters....php? id=1054218
The new amnesty bill—still supported by the power hungry Democrats and RINOs—is still being pushed. These “I deserve to be rich and powerful and the hell ...
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Immigration bill leads to breakdown of US - The Citizen.com, GE
http://www.thecitizen.com/node/17677
Everybody I know is prepared to even vote for a Democrat rather than reelect those of you who vote for this amnesty bill. You’ve squandered years of ...
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Amnesty opponents are not un-American - Small Gov Times, VA
http://www.smallgovtimes.com/sto...esty.opponents/
EDITORIAL - Although action in the United States Senate this week has slowed passage of the amnesty bill, it is not yet dead as President Bush remains ...
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Major provisions of minor import - San Francisco Chronicle, USA
http://news.google.com/news?um=1...=amnesty% 20bill
He repeated his argument that the Kennedy-Kyl bill is not an amnesty bill for illegal immigrants -- because they would have to return to their country of ...
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Liberals Stunned by Radical New 'AMNESTY BILL,' According to - Earthtimes.org - Jun 12, 2007
http://www.earthtimes.org/ articl...se,121219.shtml
In this newly proposed "AMNESTY BILL," illegal aliens would have 120 days to leave the US without any penalty or incarceration. In other words, "amnesty" ...
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A deceptive immigration bill - Napa Valley Register, CA - Jun 12, 2007
http:// www.napavalleyregister.co...e0247219958.txt
America needs you to call your senators and express your outrage over this amnesty bill, both in principle and in practical costs to the American people. ...
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WJACtv.com Joe Murray: President Makes A Personal Appeal - Evening Bulletin, PA - Jun 13, 2007
http://thebulletin.us/site/news....id=576361& rfi=6
The Texas senator pointed to the 1986 amnesty bill as a prime example where lawmakers "over-promised and under-delivered." Cornyn further stated that he was ...
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:30 pm | #

-PNAC and their "new pearl harbor"
-Iraq War
-Surge I
-Surge II
-Patriot Act
-Continuity of Government
-Patriot Act II
-Military Commissions Act
-Iran Plan
-North Korea Plan
-Plan to remove foreign policy from the president and put the responsibility of an NGO puppet under the code name "War Czar."
-Campaign to supress DC Madam phone resords.
-Campaign to link VT to 9/11 truthers and/or islamic funamentalist sympathizers.
-Smeer campaign against 9/11 truthers-includes the focused campaign to lock up all truthers as mentaly ill and enemies of the state (Fred revealed a part of this in the Michael Moore video).
-Implantable microchips to track different races who will have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide
-Shifting media attention of victims of AEI sanctioned child sex torture rituals for elite by inventing the fraudulent "false memory syndrome" and funding the fraudulent McMartin movie
-Bribing, blackmailing, coercing, intimidating , and killing in order to force the RFID program into legislation. They have already built the systems with tracking in global hawks and data access points in all street surveillance cameras as well all processing of heavy flow of RFID info from every Halliburton concentration camp.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:16 pm | #

Way cool
Totally Groovy,(A.T.H.F.) | 08.05.07 - 5:30 pm | #

MORE ARTICLES ON THIS DICTATORIAL PUSH FOR A TREASONOUS BILL
It's Obvious, Our Sovereignty Is Threatened Daily American Daily
http://www.americandaily.com/art...m/article/ 19217
CERTAIN MORTALITY OF THE UNITED STATES NewsWithViews.com
http://www.newswithviews.com/Woo...e/ frosty267.htm
The scuttling of amnesty bill S.1348 Joplin Independent
http:// www.joplinindependent.com...gheen1181578113
Why I Was Opposed Family Security Matters
http://www.familysecuritymatters....php? id=1054466
No Means No, Mr. President! Grassroots Opposition to Senate ... Earthtimes.org
http://www.earthtimes.org/ articl...se,121160.shtml
No real enforcement under 'amnesty bill' Ventura County Star (subscription)
http://www.venturacountystar.com...r-amnesty-bill/
With Immigration Bill Stalled, Advocates Push Forward New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/1.../ 14support.html
Bill offers realistic idea on immigration The Southern
http://www.southernillinoisan.co...ns/ 20585956.txt
Amnesty ignores public sentiment Asbury Park Press
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll.../706130365/ 1032
Elizabeth Dole Deserves a "Thank You" From Conservatives The Conservative Voice
http://www.theconservativevoice....icle/ 25905.html
Bush to push immigration bill at Capitol Central Penn Business Journal
http://www.centralpennbusiness.c...e.asp? aID=61081
Bush To Lobby For Stalled Immigration Bill WJACtv.com
http://www.wjactv.com/politics/1...035/ detail.html
Immigration's Lost Voices Canton Repository (subscription)
http://www.cantonrep.com/index.p...& subCategoryID=
Amnesty ignores public sentiment Asbury Park Press
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll.../706130365/ 1032
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:29 pm | #

Amendment I

CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:20 pm | #

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**emphasis added**

You do know the First Amendment doesn't apply to private entities, don't you?
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:27 pm | #

Sane, THIS IS GREAT. I can tell you feel the urgency as well. I am also shocked that, it seems like, over 85% of Americans are absolutely clueless................NO IDEA!! Son of a bitch, when SHIT HITS THE FAN, we're going to see first hand MASS hysteria, in ways we cannot even think of right now..........MASS HYSTERIA because most have no idea. This is nuts! Keep it coming Sane, you know we value your information and send it out to as many friends and family member that we can.

Geez, this is fucked, a done deal. Just a matter of time now.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 5:26 pm | #

IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 1 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h? v=XcWHyxAj68o
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 2 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h?v=EAklv1Z- ZEg
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 3 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h? v=lgRuuWZKrbg
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 4 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h? v=0ZVz09rE2sA
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 5 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=TvCXNQ6D8R4
IOWA REPUBLICAN DEBATE AUGUST 05, 2007 part 6 - 10 min - Aug 5, 2007 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?v=KKYv- QFXkXU
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:25 pm | #

>>>>>>Ron Paul at debate on ABC OLLY 2 min in 90 min Debate - Aug 5, 2007
First 2 segments on ABC debate with George Stephanopoulos...Ron Paul ABC stephanopoulos debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=NKNaFGDuuUg
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Rudy Has No Clue About Health Care 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?v=9qVrokl3- 2I
Rudy Lies About His Second Amendment And Pro Life Stand 52 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h? v=YJfbQh547o4
Gov. Romney: Is Clueless About Military [Ron Paul has most active duty supporters], Economy [He inherits $300 million, how does he know?], and Family [Separates children from families in African juevenille rape rooms] 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h? v=vvtJDBnm0O4
Gov. Romney: My Biggest Mistake was thinking people won't see what a fraud I am 23 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=H0te3KeuZaU
Gov. Romney: I Think The President Has Kept Us Safe Because I Do Not Read The Intelligence Reports 32 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eqbx7vk1MQg
Gov. Romney: Fix It First So I Can Break Something New 53 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=u44cnqqqdS4
Gov. Romney: I Think Pakistan Is A Moderate Muslim State 2 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (4 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h? v=tXeclPzdlno
Gov. Romney: I Will Continue To Believe In Outlandish Conspiracy Theories About Radical Jihad As An Excuse To Nuke The Middle East And Lock Up American Citizens 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eYZHITSAdWM
Gov. Romney: I Am Financially Personally Responsible For My Healthcare As I Have $300 Million 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h? v=WnX5ZsmRgT8
Gov. Romney: We Need A Surge of Support For Me That Is Why I Purchase Poll Results Like the One In Iowa 38 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h? v=2e9rKP0Ssqk
Gov. Romney On Sen. Obama: Jane Fonda To Doctor Strangelove Is The Extent Of My Simple Mind, Proving I cannot Tackle Complex Issues 37 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (5 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h? v=z80ss1F6FV8
Gov Romney Backpeddles On Sen. Brownback's Factual Statements 4 min - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FPboc61AZes

GE/AOL/Disney/NewsCorp/NationalAmusement [CNN/CNNHeadline/MSNBC/ABC/NBC/CNBC/FOX/FoxNews/ CBS] Blackout all news of Republican Debate.

Anyone who says there is no conspiracy against sovereignty and The Constitution has lost their fricking mind.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:22 pm | #

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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First Amendment protects the right to a free press. Take a look at what it takes to create a nework/cable/satellite TV show and you will see the violation with your own eyes. This is besides the targeted journalists that Cheney kills ewith executive order "By Any Means Necessary." Journalists like Daniel Pearl that was beheaded in a Neo-Con Snuff Film.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:20 pm | #

I cannot believe that our/your valuable internet time, while we still have it, is STILL being spent trying and wanting to fuck with the regular bloggers in here. I mean really fuckface, what's your god damn deal asshole?

Tired of jerking your dick off?

Tired of fucking your boyfriend in his dirty asshole?

Tire of sucking your mamas hairy cunt?
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Err, the AOL chatrooms are this way -------->. Be sure to look for the "10 and under" header.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:20 pm | #

>>>>Continuity of Government is owned by Cheney's Front Group, SEI

http://www.continuityofgovernmen...t.org/ home.html
About the Commission
The Continuity of Government Commission was launched in the fall of 2002 in order to study and recommend reforms to ensure the continuity of our governmental institutions in the event of a catastrophic attack.

The commission is an American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Brookings Institution project headquartered at AEI. It is funded by the Carnegie, Hewlett, Packard, and MacArthur foundations. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford are the honorary co-chairs of the commission and Lloyd Cutler and Alan Simpson are the chairmen. The commission includes members who have served in government at the highest levels.

The commission first focused its attention on preserving Congress, and has now turned to the executive and the Supreme Court. The central issue that the commission addressed is how Congress could function if a large number of members were killed or incapacitated. The problem is most acute in the House of Representatives because the Constitution requires that all vacancies be filled by special election, and it takes four months on average to fill these seats. If there were mass vacancies, the House might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement, or it might operate with a small and unrepresentative number. A second problem is that of incapacity. There is no precedent for filling temporary vacancies so both houses of Congress would be severely diminished, or unable to operate at all, if a large number of members were incapacitated. The events of September 11th led to several ongoing efforts to preserve the continuity of Congress. There was a similar effort in the 1950s and 1960s to deal with these same issues.

In addition, the commission will deal both with the continuity of the Supreme Court, which has a quorum requirement, and with potential reforms to the Presidential Succession Act.The commission met twice in the fall of 2002 to hear testimony and formulate recommendations. It issued a report in June of 2003 on the continuity of Congress. The second phase of the commission has begun addressing presidential succession and will include discussion of continuity in the Supreme Court.
Areas of Investigation
The Continuity of Government Commission will address the continuity of all three branches of government:
Continuity of Congress - The central issue the commission will address is how Congress would function after a terrorist attack. Because of the possibility of large numbers of incapacitated members or vacancies, Congress might not be able to function unless some provision is made to replace members who are deceased or unable to perform their duties. A crippled Congress might not even be able to meet its quorum requirement in a time of crisis.
Presidential Succession - In a second phase of the project, the commission will look at issues surrounding the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, with an eye to ensure that there is a clear transfer of power to the appropriate successor in a time of crisis.
Continuity of the Supreme Court - In the aftermath of a terrorist attack, there might be significant institutional questions over which the Supreme Court would have to rule. The Supreme Court has a quorum requirement of six, and there are a number of other questions about the status of lower court appeals if the Court were disabled for a significant amount of time.
Continuity of Congress
But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session. The resulting deaths and injuries might have caused the Congress to cease functioning altogether for a number of months.

There are two issues that threaten the continuity of Congress after a terrorist attack: mass vacancies and incapacitated members. The issue of mass vacancies affects the House of Representatives where vacancies are filled only by special election, unlike the Senate where governors may make immediate temporary appointments. Special elections are governed by state laws, and, on average, it takes four months to elect a new member to fill a vacant seat. Depending on the number of vacancies, the House might not even be able to field a quorum, or it might have to operate with a skeleton crew of members not representative of the country as a whole. The second issue of incapacitated members affects both the House and the Senate. Neither body has regular procedures to deal with incapacitated members. In the past, members who have serious incapacities that prevent them from performing their duties were left in place until the end of their terms. If a large number of members were temporarily unable to perform their duties due to injuries or infectious diseases, both bodies might not be able to function because of a lack of a quorum.

In the 1950s and 60s, the Senate passed three constitutional amendments giving governors the power to make temporary appointments to fill House vacancies when there were mass vacancies. The House did not act on these measures. After September 11th, Norman Ornstein wrote "What if Congress were Obliterated?" in Roll Call addressing this very issue. On a parallel track, Congressman Brian Baird introduced H.J. Res. 67. A number of other proposals have been introduced or suggested. There have also been a number of hearings before committees in the House.

http://www.continuityofgovernmen...mages/ quote.jpg
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Did you guys get that?????

Some brave pilot blew the Unmanned aircraft out of the sky and AEI/PNAC/Cheney are so pissed.

Here it is again:
Continuity of Congress
But for the heroic efforts of the passengers of United Flight 93, that plane might very well have crashed into the Capitol building when Congress was in session.

Check out the other stuff in BOLD, can anyone say MOTIF????????

They are talking about the attacks that they plan and execute, why doesn't 99% of the public see this??????
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>>> Other AEI Projects in Preparation of Martial Law:

-PNAC and their "new pearl harbor"
-Iraq War
-Surge I
-Surge II
-Patriot Act
-Continuity of Government
-Patriot Act II
-Military Commissions Act
-Iran Plan
-North Korea Plan
-Plan to remove foreign policy from the president and put the responsibility of an NGO puppet under the code name "War Czar."
-Campaign to supress DC Madam phone resords.
-Campaign to link VT to 9/11 truthers and/or islamic funamentalist sympathizers.
-Smeer campaign against 9/11 truthers-includes the focused campaign to lock up all truthers as mentaly ill and enemies of the state (Fred revealed a part of this in the Michael Moore video).
-Implantable microchips to track different races who will have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide
-Shifting media attention of victims of AEI sanctioned child sex torture rituals for elite by inventing the fraudulent "false memory syndrome" and funding the fraudulent McMartin movie
-Bribing, blackmailing, coercing, intimidating , and killing in order to force the RFID program into legislation. They have already built the systems with tracking in global hawks and data access points in all street surveillance cameras as well all processing of heavy flow of RFID info from every Halliburton concentration camp.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:16 pm | #

DRAFT LEGISLATION
110TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION
H.R. ________
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

introduce the following bill;
which was referred to the Committee on Rules

A BILL
To require before final passage of any Bill the printing and full verbatim reading of the text of such Bill, and each and every amendment attached thereto, to each house of Congress called to order with a quorum physically assembled throughout, the entry of such a printing and reading in the journal of each house of Congress, and the verbatim publication of every such Bill, and each and every amendment thereto, on the official Internet web site of the Senate and the House of Representatives at least seven days before floor consideration and final passage of any Bill, and each and every amendment thereto by each house of Congress; and to provide for enforcement of the printing, reading, entry, publication, recording and affidavit requirements herein.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States
Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE

This Act may be cited as the “Read the Bills Act.”

SECTION 2. FINDINGS

(a) The United States Constitution vests all legislative powers granted therein to the United States Congress, members of both the Senate and House of which are elected by the people to whom each member is accountable to represent the people of the State and of the House District in the exercise of each member's legislative powers.

(b) To the end that Congress be politically and legally accountable to the people, Article I, Section 4 of the United States Constitution requires each House of Congress to keep a journal of its proceedings and from time to time publish the same.

(c) To the end that no legislation be passed without effective representation of the people's interest by the elected members of the Congress, Article I, Section 7 of the United States Constitution states that only those Bills “which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate,” and not vetoed by the President, “shall become” Laws.

(d) According to Section I of Thomas Jefferson's 1812 Manual of Parliamentary Practice for the Use of the Senate of the United States (“Jefferson's Manual”), “nothing tended more to throw power into the hands of administration and those who acted with the majority ... than a neglect of, or departure from, the rules of proceeding [which] operated as a check and control of the actions of the majority [and] a shelter and protection to the minority.”

(e) According to Sections XXII and XL of Jefferson's Manual, it was the rule of the Senate that every bill receive three readings, two full readings by the Clerk of the Senate, and a third reading of the title of the bill only in that “every member of the Senate had a printed copy [of said bill] in his hand.”

(f) According to Sections XXIV, XXV, and XL of Jefferson's Manual, it was the rule of the House of Representatives, following the parliamentary procedure of the English House of Commons, that every bill received two full readings by the Clerk of the House, and a reading of the whole contents of the bill verbatim by the Speaker of the House before the House voted on each bill.

(g) Under current Senate rules, the Senate has departed from its original practice of a full first and second reading of each bill, and of ensuring that each Senator has a printed or other verbatim copy of each bill before passage thereof, having by Rule XIV limited each reading of a bill to the reading of the bill's title only, unless the Senate in any case shall otherwise order.

(h) Under current House rules, the House of Representatives has by Rule XVI ( and Rule XVIII (5) embraced its original practice of full first and second readings of each bill, but has regularly departed from this practice by unanimous consent of the House, and has dispensed altogether its original practice of a verbatim third reading of each bill before passage, limiting such third reading to the reading of the title only, including the reading of the title only even when members of the House have no printed or other verbatim copy of a bill before passage.

(i) Although Section 106, Title 1, United States Code, requires a bill to be made available in written form to each member of Congress before final passage Congress has by statute conferred upon itself the power, during the last six days of a session of Congress, by concurrent resolution, to vote for passage of a bill that is not in form at the time of final passage.

(j) As a direct consequence of the Senate and the House of Representatives departure from the salutary practice of full, verbatim readings of each bill before final passage, and further, as a direct consequence of Congress, by concurrent resolution, having permitted certain appropriation and budget bills to be enacted into law without such bills being printed and presented to Congress in written form prior to final passage, Congress has: (a) imposed upon the American people excessively long bills, largely written by an unelected bureaucracy, resulting in generally incomprehensible, cumbersome, oppressive and burdensome laws, containing hidden provisions for special interests; (b) deprived the American people and their elected Senators and Representatives of a full and fair opportunity to examine the text of said bills, and all amendments thereto, prior to passage; (c) undermined the confidence of the American people by its failure to give adequate notice to the people before a vote is taken on said bills and their amendments in the bills; and (d) has called into question the integrity and reliability of the legislative processes in both houses of Congress by its failure to ensure that each member of the Senate and each member of the House has, prior to passage, either listened attentively to the reading of the full text of each bill, and its amendments, or has personally read the text thereof.

SECTION 3. READ THE BILLS BEFORE PASSAGE

(a) Chapter 2 of Title 1, United States Code, shall be amended by inserting at the end of the first sentence of Section 106, the following: “provided however, that no bill — including, but not limited to, any bill produced by conference between the two houses of Congress and any bill or resolution extending, modifying, or otherwise affecting the expiration date of a bill previously passed and enacted into law by Congress — shall pass either house of Congress: (a) without the full text of said bill, and the full text of each and every amendment thereto and — if the bill or resolution extends, modifies, or in any way affects the expiration date of a bill previously passed and enacted into law — without the full text of such bill or resolution and the full text of the bill previously passed and enacted into law having first been individually read verbatim by the Clerk of each house to the body of each house called to order and physically assembled with a quorum present throughout the time of the full textual reading of said bill, and of the full text of any bill previously passed and enacted into law, if any, that is the subject of a bill or resolution extending, modifying or in any way affecting the expiration date of such previously passed bill enacted into law; and (b) without the full text of said bill, and the full text of each and every amendment thereto, and the full text of the previously passed bill and enacted into law, if any, having been published verbatim on the official Internet web site of each house at least seven days prior to a final vote thereon in each house, together with an official notice of the date and time on which the vote on the final version of said bill and its amendments will take place.”

(b) Chapter 2, Title 1, United States Code, shall be further amended by striking the last sentence of Section 106, and substituting therefor: “With respect to each bill and each and every amendment thereto, and each bill previously passed and enacted into law, the expiration date having been extended, modified or in any way changed by a bill or resolution, each house of Congress shall cause to be recorded in its journal of proceedings: (a) that the reading, printing, and publishing requirements of this section have been met; and (b) the names of those members of the Senate and of the House present during the reading of each bill and each and every amendment thereto. Each member of the Senate and each member of the House shall execute a sworn affidavit, such affidavit being executed under penalty of perjury as provided in Section 1621, Title 18, United States Code, that the member either was present throughout the entire reading of each bill, each and every amendment thereto, and listened attentively to such reading, or, prior to any vote on passage of the bill, and each and every amendment thereto, personally read attentively each bill, and each and every amendment thereto, in their entirety. Neither house of Congress, nor Congress jointly — by concurrent resolution, or by unanimous consent, or by any other order, resolution, vote, or other means — may dispense with, or otherwise waive or modify, the printing, reading, entry, publishing, recording, or affidavit requirements set forth herein.”

(c) Chapter 2, Title 1, United States Code, shall be further amended by renumbering Sections 106a and 106b to 106b and 106c respectively and adding a new Section 106a as follows: “Enforcement Clause. No bill shall become law, nor enforced or applied as law, without Congress having complied fully with the printing, reading, entry, publishing, recording, and affidavit requirements of Section 106, Title 2, United States Code and any person against whom such a bill is enforced or applied may invoke such noncompliance as a complete defense to any action, criminal or civil, brought against him. Any person
Totally Groovy,(A.T.H.F.) | 08.05.07 - 5:16 pm | #

Hey fluid, what was that you said about no "jack-booted thugs" breaking into citizen homes and taking their belongings and their liberty? Does this count?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 3:19 pm | #
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

A soldier raped and killed a girl while serving in Iraq. He was appropriately punished (except for the possible parole after 10 years). How is that indicative of a police state, which I clearly indicated with "jack-booted thugs". Bad people do bad things. It happens.

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You do not seem to like to answer questions directly or in realtime....

Dear Fluid,

I will check back later....take your time.

Thanks
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 4:53 pm | #

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Settle down sparky. Not EVERYONE spends 20 hours a day on this message board; nor would I even if I could. In fact, I have somewhere to go (gasp!) and I won't likely post again until (gasp!) tomorrow. Believe it or not, it happens.

but give them the information on Ron

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:21 pm | #

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http://seoblackhat.com/2007/07/2...ther-interview/

let them decise whether or not there is a media blackout thus a violation of the constitution's first amendment

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:21 pm | #
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The first amendment does not apply to private entities. You knew that, right?
fluid | 08.05.07 - 5:15 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:13 pm | #

The Occult History of the Third Reich Adolf Hitler 54 min - Jan 1, 1999 - (578 ratings) ("Adolph Hitler", "The SS Blood and Soil", "The Enigma of the Swastika", and "Himmler The
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:12 pm | #

FRED THOMPSON EXPOSED AS AN AGENT FOR ROTHSCHILD
http://www.scoreboard- canada.com...onrothchild.htm
Fred Thompson 2008: Additional Rothschild and Open Borders links Exposed
(Scoreboard Canada contributer July 29th, 2007)
A previous article has indicated the likelihood that Fred Thompson, the 'real' or 'true' conservative candidate for the Republican nomination is in fact a Rothschild lobbyist and or employee. This link is very direct and raises questions in a very straightforward manner as to whom Mr. Thompson would be serving if elected President of the USA. One logical inference is that he would continue the tradition of serving the interests of Israel and Zionist billionaires that has now been in fashion for decades in Washington D.C.
http://www.scoreboard-canada.com...on- thompson.htm
Recent news reports that became public after the posting of the previous article, noted that there has been a 'shake-up' of the staff leadership for the Fred Thompson for President 2008 campaign. - The net result has been to INCREASE connections to the Rothschild Illuminati empire. Former Department of Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham has been placed in charge of the bogus Zionist power grab masquerading as a presidential campaign. See: http://www.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 2...ompson_campaign
1. ROTHSCHILD BACKGROUND FOR SPENCER ABRAHAM:
a) The following link notes that Spencer Abraham was named a director of AREVA, Inc. the US subsidiary of the huge french nuclear conglomerate and that he was consistently in favor of 'Open Borders'. http://www.scoreboard-canada.com...spencer- abraham . AREVA is the largest seller of nuclear power plants to China. Is now set "to close a huge nuclear deal with China" http://www.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/ ...gy_070726181448
b) AREVA is largely owned by the French government. This means that Spencer Abraham was at least indirectly an employee of a very important French government linked outfit just prior to heading Fred Thompson's campaign.
c) Finance Minister Christine Lagarde is going to China to sign the deal, such is its importance to the economy of France and AREVA. Ms. Lagarde used to be an aide , of all things to former US Defense Secretary William Cohen and was the first female Chairperson for the International law firm of Baker & McKenzie. http://www.en.wikipedia.org/ wiki...ristine_Lagarde When asked about the near total handover of US nuclear know-how including atomic bomb designs to the Chinese, Secretary of Defense William Cohen said: They weren't exactly spying in my view. We gave it to them." www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/china/index.html
Former Secretary Cohen now runs the Cohen Group which specializes in part on deals with communist china, much like the deal AREVA is doing now. http://www.cohengroup.net/expert...rtise/ china.cfm
d) Ms. Lagarde when practicing at Baker & Makenzie had praise for fellow French woman and founder of AREVA , Anne Lauvergeon. http://www.time.com/time/ subscri...lauvergeon.html
Ms. Lauvergeon is a member of the sinister Trilateral Commission:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au...g.au/ weektc.htm
Ms. Lauvergeon attended the 2006 Bilderberg meeting: http://www.bilderberg.org/2006.htm
This was the ultimate boss of Spencer Abraham, once the head of DOE, tasked with control of the USA's nuclear assets and technology. She is the 8th most powerful woman in the world, second in Europe and 1st in France: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne....gm8& refer=asia
Rothschild and AREVA = Rothschild often acts as financial advisor to AREVA on various deals
http://www.neimagazine.com/ story...oryCode=2045247
http://www.summitresources.com.a...asx/ 110407b.pdf
* As Energy Secretary , Spencer Abraham lobbied for Westinghouse to get nuclear deals in China against AREVA - the company that he now works for as a director: http://www.globalresearch.ca/ind...ext=va& aid=5949
The previous link, scroll to near bottom, also notes that the Rothschild link is not limited to advising AREVA, Rothschild is the manager of privately traded shares of the minority interest in the national company that is in private hands. The Rothschild empire has been a very big player in the uranium market for decades. "Nuclear power and energy supples are controlled globally by the Rothschild syndicate." scroll down 50 percent: http://www.globalresearch.ca/ind...ext=va& aid=5949
Depleted Uranium is allegedly causing havoc among children, particularly in Iraq - caution graphic photos are gruesome: more .Todd R. Snyder is a director of Gencorp. He is the managing director of Rothschild Inc. more .Gencorp owns Aerojet Corporation which is one of two makers of depleted uranium for the pentagon. more . One of the founders of Aerojet was Jack Parsons a top notch scientist ... and Satanist. more. scroll 50%.
http://www.wake-up-america.net/ d...ted_uranium.htm
http://www.gencorp.com/pages/ir_...s/ ir_board.html
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerojet
http://www.reason.com/news/show/...show/ 32190.html
Aerojet and depleted uranium = http://www.commondreams.org/view...s02/0709- 07.htm
Aerojet is not just about plutonium or depleted uranium. Simply google Aerojet DARPA and numerous links will emerge, hypersonic engines , the HyFly missile for Boeing, you name it. A former Aerojet man was named the head of the CIA under suspected JFK assassination plotter LBJ. http://www.time.com/time/ printou...,833615,00.html
William F. Raborn. krewed up with all of this is the Rothschild empire, of course... AREVA handles the world's largest repository of nuclear , radioactive materials in the world at a plant in Normandy. AREVA is intimately involved in France's nuclear weapons program. http://www.scoreboard-canada.com...0210/ S00187.htm
How can someone with this background be heading the campaign for President of a Republican candidate heralded as the new Ronald Reagan?
2. OPEN BORDERS ARE O.K. WITH SPENCER ABRAHAM:
a) Prevented implementation of a computerized screening process that might have stopped 9/11 from happening. http://www.vdare.com/francis/ ope...pen_borders.htm
b) A Pan-Islamist is the name given to Spencer Abraham by some - http://www.freerepublic.com/focu.../posts? page=204 - quizically - he is "popular with jews" when appointed Energy Secretary. http://www.abbc2.com/islam/engli...ushsadm- tjw.htm
How can this be...unless it is the Rothschild link with AREVA?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:11 pm | #

BUSH?CHENEY DOMESTIC CONCENTRATION CAMPS DO EXIST
FEMA - NETC Virtual CampusWelcome to the National Emergency Training Center's (NETC) Virtual Campus. It is the Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA) online training site. ...
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FEMA Concentration Camps: Locations and Executive Orders - Friends ...... by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to ..... Sand Point Naval Station - Seattle - FEMA detention center used actively ...
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 5:00 pm | #

"To say that the [Bush-Cheney] secret presidency is undemocratic is an understatement. I'm anything but skittish about government, but I must say this administration is truly scary and, given the times we live in, frighteningly dangerous."- former Nixon White House counsel JOHN DEAN

He said: "Some US journalist came up to me and said: "...This is the most corrupt and racist American administration in over 80 years".'How can you say this about President Bush?' Well, I think what I said then was quite mild. I actually think that Bush is the greatest threat to life on this planet that we've most probably ever seen. The policies he is initiating will doom us to extinction." - KEN LIVINGSTONE, the MAYOR of LONDON

"We are talking about despotism. The USA PATRIOT Act is as despotic as anything Hitler came up with----even using much of the same language."- GORE VIDAL
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24-year CIA veteran on on Cheney Iraq Speech:"Longest Statement of Disinformation" Ever Fed U.S. Public
http://masters-of-war.org/ cheney...cheneylies.html
The European brand of fascism will probably present its most serious postwar threat to us via Latin America. The effect of the war has been to raise the cost of living in most Latin American countries much faster than the wages of labor. The fascists in most Latin American countries tell the people that the reason their wages will not buy as much in the way of goods is because of Yankee imperialism. The fascists in Latin America learn to speak and act like natives. Our chemical and other manufacturing concerns are all too often ready to let the Germans have Latin American markets, provided the American companies can work out an arrangement which will enable them to charge high prices to the consumer inside the United States. Following this war, technology will have reached such a point that it will be possible for Germans, using South America as a base, to cause us much more difficulty in World War III than they did in World War II. The military and landowning cliques in many South American countries will find it attractive financially to work with German fascist concerns as well as expedient from the standpoint of temporary power politics. Fascism is a worldwide disease. Its greatest threat to the United States will come after the war, either via Latin America or within the United States itself.

Still another danger is represented by those who, paying lip service to democracy and the common welfare, in their insatiable greed for money and the power which money gives, do not hesitate surreptitiously to evade the laws designed to safeguard the public from monopolistic extortion. American fascists of this stamp were clandestinely aligned with their German counterparts before the war, and are even now preparing to resume where they left off, after "the present unpleasantness" ceases: The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact. Their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity, every crack in the common front against fascism. They use every opportunity to impugn democracy. They use isolationism as a slogan to conceal their own selfish imperialism. They cultivate hate and distrust of both Britain and Russia. They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.

Several leaders of industry in this country who have gained a new vision of the meaning of opportunity through co-operation with government have warned the public openly that there are some selfish groups in industry who are willing to jeopardize the structure of American liberty to gain some temporary advantage. We all know the part that the cartels played in bringing Hitler to power, and the rule the giant German trusts have played in Nazi conquests. Monopolists who fear competition and who distrust democracy because it stands for equal opportunity would like to secure their position against small and energetic enterprise. In an effort to eliminate the possibility of any rival growing up, some monopolists would sacrifice democracy itself.It has been claimed at times that our modern age of technology facilitates dictatorship. What we must understand is that the industries, processes, and inventions created by modern science can be used either to subjugate or liberate. The choice is up to us. The myth of fascist efficiency has deluded many people. It was Mussolini's vaunted claim that he "made the trains run on time." In the end, however, he brought to the Italian people impoverishment and defeat. It was Hitler's claim that he eliminated all unemployment in Germany. Neither is there unemployment in a prison camp.Democracy to crush fascism internally must demonstrate its capacity to "make the trains run on time." It must develop the ability to keep people fully employed and at the same time balance the budget. It must put human beings first and dollars second. It must appeal to reason and decency and not to violence and deceit. We must not tolerate oppressive government or industrial oligarchy in the form of monopolies and cartels. As long as scientific research and inventive ingenuity outran our ability to devise social mechanisms to raise the living standards of the people, we may expect the liberal potential of the United States to increase. If this liberal potential is properly channeled, we may expect the area of freedom of the United States to increase. The problem is to spend up our rate of social invention in the service of the welfare of all the people. The worldwide, agelong struggle between fascism and democracy will not stop when the fighting ends in Germany and Japan. Democracy can win the peace only if it does two things:

* Speeds up the rate of political and economic inventions so that both production and, especially, distribution can match in their power and practical effect on the daily life of the common man the immense and growing volume of scientific research, mechanical invention and management technique
* Vivifies with the greatest intensity the spiritual processes which are both the foundation and the very essence of democracy.

The moral and spiritual aspects of both personal and international relationships have a practical bearing which so-called practical men deny. This dullness of vision regarding the importance of the general welfare to the individual is the measure of the failure of our schools and churches to teach the spiritual significance of genuine democracy. Until democracy in effective enthusiastic action fills the vacuum created by the power of modern inventions, we may expect the fascists to increase in power after the war both in the United States and in the world. Fascism in the postwar inevitably will push steadily for Anglo-Saxon imperialism and eventually for war with Russia. Already American fascists are talking and writing about this conflict and using it as an excuse for their internal hatreds and intolerances toward certain races, creeds and classes. It should also be evident that exhibitions of the native brand of fascism are not confined to any single section, class or religion. Happily, it can be said that as yet fascism has not captured a predominant place in the outlook of any American section, class or religion. It may be encountered in Wall Street, Main Street or Tobacco Road. Some even suspect that they can detect incipient traces of it along the Potomac. It is an infectious disease, and we must all be on our guard against intolerance, bigotry and the pretension of invidious distinction. But if we put our trust in the common sense of common men and "with malice toward none and charity for all" go forward on the great adventure of making political, economic and social democracy a practical reality, we shall not fail.- From "The Danger of American Fascism", originally published in the New York Times, 1944; an excerpt from Democracy Reborn, by Henry A. Wallace ( New York, 1944 ), edited by Russell Lord, p. 259
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"I think the level of casualties is secondary. I mean, it may sound like an odd thing to say, but all the great scholars who have studied American character have come to the conclusion that we are a warlike people and that we love war. . . . What we hate is not casualties but losing." - Michael Ledeen, the American Enterprise Institute Breakfast, March 27, 2003

"At the American Enterprise Institute, some of the finest minds in our nation are at work on some of the greatest challenges to our nation. You do such good work that my administration has borrowed 20 such minds. I want to thank them for their service, but I also want to remind people that for 60 years, AEI scholars have made vital contributions to our country and to our government, and we are grateful for those contributiions." - The President Discusses the Future of Iraq. February 26, 20039

"The story of what we've done in the postwar period is remarkable. It is a better and more important story than losing a couple of soldiers every day." - U.S. Rep. George Nethercutt (R-WA)

"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths and how many, what day it's gonna happen? It's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" - Barbara Bush, said on 'Good Morning America' the day before the Iraq war started, New York Times, 01-13-03

"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." - Henry Kissinger, quoted in "Kiss the Boys Goodbye: How the United States Betrayed Its Own
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:57 pm | #

Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20070717- 3.html
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Message to the Congress of the United States Regarding International Emergency Economic Powers Act By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International...
[and treasonous, and highly illegal, and in direct violation of the constitution of the USA],

Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code...
[The act is a fraud then the amendment is a fraud, and furthermore using an emergency act (fraudulent or not) to supress dissent from the coup's leader's political aims is so treasonous it makes me sick]

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America...
[illegal leader of a coup that was blocked in 1933-he is not our elected president by any means and more American citizens are waking up to this fact]

find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security...
[that this illegal dictator created]

and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq...
[this whole thing is a lie, the only people who created terrorism in iraq are Cheney/Bush and their failed foreing policy]

and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004.
[every 3 words describes something that our foreign policy expansion under cheney/bush created, how can any rational person take this document seriously]

I hereby order [order THIS you traitor to this country, we ain't Laura or Barney]:

Section 1. (a) Except to the extent provided in section 203(b)(1), (3), and (4) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(1), (3), and (4)), or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, all property and interests in property of the following persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons, are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury...
[WTF-determined by a bush appointee who is manhandled by big dick???? That is why you wanted our financial info, hmmm.. you slimy fuck!]

in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, (i) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of...
[uh, where is the justice department in these deliberations...I mean I know gonzo is a joke, but i think this violates at least 5 inalienable rights, and some pretty important constitutional amendments]

(A) threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq
[unless you are going to seize all bush/cheney property with this EO, the whole thing is a fraud]...
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This has got be a joke when

http://whitehouse.org

looks almost identical to

http://whitehouse.gov

It is like Bush is trying desperately to wake us up and we are insisting on hitting the snooze button.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:54 pm | #

Dear Fluid,

I will check back later....take your time.

Thanks
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 4:53 pm | #

You don't revolt because, even though you hear Alex say this is a police state on the radio, you don't actually see it in practice. No jackbooted thugs have raided your house, kidnapped your children, stolen your automobile and television. That, ultimately, keeps you from actual revolt. That keeps you on the internet, fearless of persecution. If Alex Jones' interpretation of the world ever materializes, look me up. I'll be the first (and last) person to say "Hey, you guys were right. Let's get these fuckers!" You keep saying 300 million to 10 thousand. Those are impressive odds. Why does a government whom you claim is stealing your life and liberty allow to persist against those odds? Is it because so few have "woken up"? Why haven't they woken up? That's right. Everyone that doesn't subscribe to your philosophy is an easily brainwashed sheep who is stupid and is willing to accept equilibrium as long as they can keep their automobiles. EVERYONE. But I daresay you'll never say that to EVERYONE to their person, but only in the confines of a relatively anonymous message board post; even though your situation is so desperate, so dangerous.

Past my bedtime. Where DO you guys get the stamina (fixation)?
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:57 am | #

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(Thanks for the Cretin versus Cretan....I do spell poorly, especially when typing.)

Hey fluid, what was that you said about no "jack-booted thugs" breaking into citizen homes and taking their belongings and their liberty? Does this count?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 3:19 pm | #

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You do not seem to like to answer questions directly or in realtime....
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 4:51 pm | #

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:49 pm | #

Woman who filed lawsuit found dead-Star-12/24/03The Fort Bend County woman would filed a December, 2002 lawsuit against former governor and current sitting President George W. Bush was found dead in ...
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:48 pm | #

>>>>>>Senate Passes Bush Spy Bill
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...m-surveillance/
WASHINGTON — The Senate, in a high-stakes showdown over national security, voted late Friday to temporarily give President Bush expanded authority to eavesdrop on suspected foreign terrorists without court warrants. The House, meanwhile, rejected a Democratic version of the bill. Democratic leaders there were working on a plan to bring up the Senate-passed measure and vote on it Saturday in response to Bush's demand that Congress give him expanded powers before leaving for vacation this weekend.

The bill "will give our intelligence professionals the essential tools they need to protect our nation," said White House spokesman Tony Fratto. "It is urgent that this legislation become law as quickly as possible." Senate Democrats reluctantly voted for a plan largely crafted by the White House after Bush promised to veto a stricter proposal that would have required a court review to begin within 10 days. The Senate bill gives Bush the expanded eavesdropping authority for six months. The temporary powers give Congress time to hammer out a more comprehensive plan instead of rushing approval for a permanent bill in the waning hours before lawmakers begin their monthlong break. The Senate vote was 60-28. Both parties had agreed to require 60 votes for passage. Senate Republicans, aided by Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell, said the update to the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, would at least temporarily close gaps in the nation's security system.

"Al-Qaida is not going on vacation this month," said Sen. Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky. "And we can't either until we know we've done our duty to the American people." In the House, Democrats lost an effort to push a proposal that called for stricter court oversight of the way the government would ensure its spying would not target Americans. "The rule of law is still critical in this country," Rep. John Tierney, D-Mass., said before the losing the mostly party-line 218-207 vote that fell short of two-thirds majority needed for passage. "It is exactly when the government thinks that it can be the sole, fair arbiter that we most need a judicial system to stand in and strike the balance." "We can have security and our civil liberties," Tierney said. Current law requires court review of government surveillance of suspected terrorists in the United States. It does not specifically address the government's ability to intercept messages believed to come from foreigners overseas.

The Bush administration began pressing for changes to the law after a recent ruling by the special FISA court that barred the government from eavesdropping on foreign suspects whose messages were being routed through U.S. communications carriers, including Internet sites. Democrats agreed the law should not restrict U.S. spies from tapping in on foreign suspects. However, they initially demanded the FISA court to review the eavesdropping process before it begins to make sure that Americans aren't targeted. By the final vote, Senate Democrats had whittled down that demand and approved a bill that largely mirrored what the Bush administration wanted. It requires:

_Initial approval by Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. The administration relented to Democrats leery of Gonzales by adding McConnell to the oversight.

_FISA Court review within 120 days. The final Democratic plan had called for court review to begin immediately and conclude within a month of the surveillance starting

_The law to expire in six months to give Congress time to craft a more comprehensive plan. The White House initially wanted the bill to be permanent.

Before the vote, Democrats excoriated the GOP plan, which Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said "provides a weak and practically nonexistent court review." Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., angrily chastised his colleagues for bending to the administration's will. "The day we start deferring to someone who's not a member of this body ... is a sad day for the U.S. Senate," Feingold said. "We make the policy _ not the executive branch." Likewise, civil liberties advocates said they were outraged that Democratic-led Senate would side with the White House. "We're hugely disappointed with the Democrats," said Caroline Fredrickson, legislative director for the American Civil Liberties Union. "The idea they let themselves be manipulated into accepting the White House proposal, certainly taking a great deal of it, when they're in control _ it's mind-boggling."

It was not immediately clear whether House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would endorse the Senate bill after days of rejecting White House offers. "I hope that there are no attacks before we are able to effectively update this important act," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee. Bush has said he would reject any bill that his intelligence director deemed unable "to prevent an attack on the country."

"We've worked hard and in good faith with the Democrats to find a solution, but we are not going to put our national security at risk," Bush said after meeting with counterterror and homeland security officials at FBI headquarters Friday morning. "Time is short." Presidents have authority to call Congress back in session from a recess, but the last time it was used was in 1948, by Harry Truman. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, called the administration plan "more likely to protect the American people against terrorist attacks by those who want to do us harm."
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Guys, I cannot express in words how screwed up this is, I thought last night was smoke and mirrors but this just confirmed it.

As of right not there is no 4th amrnment according the executive and legislative branches of our government.

Please understand 60 senators just voted in favor of the president at his discretion to spy on any person [citizen included] any time for any reason without any warrant.

This bill it in direct violation of the constitution of the USA and it must be exposed. It ilso is being used to protect the executive branch from legalities stemming from the last 6 years of Bush violating the 4th Amendment.

4th Amendment of the US Constitution:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:47 pm | #

An Immoral Philosophy
http://www.alternet.org/healthwe...wellness/58501/
The New York Times. August 1, 2007.What kind of philosophy says that it's O.K. to subsidize insurance companies, but not to provide health care to children?

Child Suicide No Deterrent for Profit-Hungry Drug Maker
http://www.alternet.org/healthwe...wellness/58483/
CorpWatch. August 1, 2007.GlaxoSmithKline provides research funding to doctors who write favorable opinions of depression drugs for children, despite evidence from clinical trials that the medication can cause anger and even suicide.

Rudy: Worse Than Bush?
http://www.alternet.org/story/58480/
TheNation.com. August 1, 2007.How much worse a president would Rudy Giuliani be than George W. Bush? Novelist Kevin Baker counts the ways.

Why Progressives Are Selling Out To Corporate America
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/57474/
AlterNet. August 1, 2007.An interview with author Daniel Brook offers us answers on why so many progressives get roped into the corporate world.

Can We Pursue Terrorists Without Becoming Like Them?
http://www.alternet.org/audits/56412/
Foreign Policy in Focus. August 1, 2007.From torture to warrantless wiretapping, the Bush administration's approach to terrorism has defied legal standards at all levels.

Iraq Oil Ministry: No Dealing With Unions
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/58491/
UPI. July 31, 2007.Iraq's powerful oil unions have long been a bulwark against privatizing their industry. Now they're being sidelined.

President Richardson or Latino President Richardson?
http://www.alternet.org/columnis...ts/story/58455/
New America Media. July 31, 2007.As Democratic candidates prepare for a televised debate on the largest Spanish language network, Bill Richardson -- the only Latino in the race -- has to walk a thin line to have any hope of getting elected.

Why the Anti-War Movement Doesn't Embrace the Iraqi Resistance: A Response to Cockburn
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/58410/
AlterNet. July 31, 2007.Veteran peace activist Phyllis Bennis responds to Alexander Cockburn's analysis of the anti-war movement in The Nation.

Getting Busted for Pot Can Cost Your Right to Vote
http://www.alternet.org/rights/58346/
In These Times. July 31, 2007.Once you've been arrested for the harsh anti-marijuana laws on the books, you can be denied everything from food stamps to voting rights to the right to adopt a child.

Why Democrats May End Up on the Wrong Side of the Social Security Privatization War
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/58089/
AlterNet. July 31, 2007.The push to cover the planet in trade deals is intended to give foreign investors new "rights." Now these deals are being used to keep failed private retirement systems in corporate hands.

Outsourcing Intelligence: How Bush Gets His National Intelligence from Private Companies
http://www.alternet.org/story/57979/
The Nation. July 31, 2007.Private corporations are now a major staple of national intelligence and are heavily involved in producing the most important and most sensitive national security document -- the President's Daily Brief.

Exposed: The Truth Behind Popular Carbon Offsetting Schemes
http://www.alternet.org/environm...ironment/57976/
Independent UK. July 31, 2007.Academics and environmentalists are questioning the ethics and impact of offsetting -- and suggesting that offsetting schemes have not been as effective as claimed.

Giving Up the Debt Lifestyle
http://www.alternet.org/columnis...ts/story/58369/
King Features Syndicate. July 30, 2007.Financially free at last, my spouse and I don't need a newer car or a house in a ritzier neighborhood. We've matured faster than our savings bonds.

In Violation of Federal Law, Ohio's 2004 Presidential Election Records Are Destroyed or Missing
http://www.alternet.org/story/58328/
AlterNet. July 30, 2007.In 56 of Ohio's 88 counties, ballots and election records from 2004 have been "accidentally" destroyed, despite a federal order to preserve them -- it was crucial evidence which would have revealed whether the election was stolen.

Why the White House Keeps Hiding Behind General Petraeus
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/58246/
The New York Times. July 30, 2007.The White House has done everything possible to create the appearance that Gen. David Petraeus has all the responsibility for the occupation of Iraq -- but it's really an attempt to shield Bush from the failure in Iraq.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:44 pm | #

>>>CHENEY ENSLAVES HUNDREDS IN AMERICAS FIRST BAGHDAD CONCENTRATION CAMP-THE AMERICAN EMBASSY

skimbleKuwaiti slave trade for US interests. Kuwait used to be the royal "good guys" ... The Department of Justice launched the probe of First Kuwaiti General ...
http://skimble.blogspot.com/2007...- interests.html - 41k - Cached - Similar pages

Slave Labor at US Embassy in Baghdad? - by David Phinney"How can they go to the U.S. State Department for help if First Kuwaiti is building their embassy?" ... Slave Labor at US Embassy in Baghdad? 10/26/2006 ...
http://www.antiwar.com/ips/phinn...? articleid=9919 - 42k - Jul 26, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages

The Vanity Press: US Embassy In Iraq Built By Abducted Slave LaborUS Embassy In Iraq Built By Abducted Slave Labor ... A First Kuwaiti manager told me that the Filipino passports do not allow Filipinos to fly to Iraq; ...
http://thevanitypress.blogspot.c...y- abducted.html - 87k - Jul 26, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages

U.S. Embassy In Baghdad Being Built By Slave Labor? at 1115.orgA statement by First Kuwaiti said, “We are not aware of any DOJ investigation involving ... The State Department is also aware of slave labor in China. ...
http://www.1115.org/2007/06/08/u...by-slave-labor/ - 20k - Cached - Similar pages

Peace No War - 10/26: Slave Labor at US Embassy in Baghdad?Slave Labor at US Embassy in Baghdad? by David Phinney October 26, 2006 ... worked in Iraq, but First Kuwaiti – Owen's employer – hired MSDS on the ...
http://www.peacenowar.net/newpea...php? option=com_ content&task=view&id=205&Itemid=1 - 77k - Cached - Similar pages

Big Brass Blog - US Embassy in Baghdad Built By Abducted Slave LaborFirst Kuwaiti managers asked me to escort fifty Filipino nationals and to make sure that they ... Title: US Embassy in Baghdad Built By Abducted Slave Labor ...
http://www.bigbrassblog.com/inde....php? itemid=960 - 41k - Jul 26, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages

Think Progress » Slave labor used to contruct U.S. Embassy In Baghdad.Slave labor used to contruct U.S. Embassy In Baghdad. ... it out clearly: I believe these men were kidnapped by First Kuwaiti to work at the US Embassy… ...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07...ssy-in-baghdad/ - 32k - Jul 26, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages

US Embassy in Iraq Built in Part by Slave Labor (Freedom is Slavery)Rory Mayberry, a former subcontractor employee for First Kuwaiti Trading ... Slavery - not surprising - the PNAC Castle built by slave labor with ...
http:// www.democraticunderground...ess=389x1442689 - 31k - Jul 26, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages

U.S. Investigates Firm Building Embassy in IraqThe Department of Justice launched the probe of First Kuwaiti General Trading ... in a country that they are trying to democratize - is using slave labor to ...
http:// www.democraticunderground...ess=102x2872372 - 32k - Cached - Similar pages

Truthdig - Ear to the Ground - The First Victims of America’s Mega ...TAGS: abuse baghdad embassy iraq kidnap kuwait slave labour state ... Robert Scheer's new book offers first-hand insight into the presidential mind ...
http://www.truthdig.com/eartothe...s_mega_embassy/ - Jul 27, 2007 - Similar pages
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:43 pm | #

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH, the good old days:

Time Magazine Person of the Year - Table of Contents
Dec. 31, 2001 - Jan. 7, 2002 issue of TIME
http://www.time.com/time/poy2001...oy2001/ toc.html
Person of the Year 2001: Rudy Giuliani
Tough and smart, sure. But who knew about Rudy's big heart? Here's how a very human man taught us super-human courage
http://www.time.com/time/poy2001/
'We're under attack'
Near misses, dead phones, last words: an oral history of 9/11 by Giuliani and his aides
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/ poyoral.html
His Job Is Done — Ours Is Not
Outgoing New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani teaches us how to respond to crisis
http://www.time.com/time/subscri.../ poyopener.html
Inside the War Room
Relying on instinct, and trusting his team, George W. Bush unleashed a new kind of war against a new kind of enemy — and faster than you might have guessed
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...y2001/ nwar.html
How Bush Rates
Does he measure up to other wartime Presidents? Yes, say six historians, who give him high marks for winning public trust and having faith in his advisors
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...2001/ nprez.html
Glory in the Glare
On Sept. 11, this photo of Mike Kehoe was taken as he rushed up Tower One, earning him instant acclaim. But being called a hero is not the same as feeling like one
http://www.time.com/time/subscri.../ sofireman.html
Choosing the Person of the Year: TIME Editor Jim Kelly. When TIME's managing editor sat down to chat with AOL members, he fielded a slew of questions about POY--[supposedly this is where Rudy did not meet the criteria...but the page is "missing" hmmm...]
http://www.time.com/time/ subscri...chat_kelly.html
Readers' Choice
Tens of thousands of readers submit their nominations for Person of the Year
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/ readers.html

STORIES THAT MATTERED [to the illuminati elite]
The Missing Intern: Why Condit Is Running Again
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/ sequel1.html
The Stem-Cell Debate: In the Embryonic Stage
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/ sequel2.html
The G.O.P. Defector: Senator Turncoat Has No Regrets
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/ sequel3.html
Santee's Shooter: How Bad a Boy?
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/ sequel4.html
California's Energy Crisis: Power's On — But the Cost!
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/ sequel5.html
The Cincinnati Riot: An Uneasy Calm in a Troubled City
http://www.time.com/time/subscri...01/ sequel6.html
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Wake up, all of the media is so owned/controlled by the government in direct violation of the constitution.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:43 pm | #

Pat Buchanan agrees with Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h? v=UEgxHLii_ic
The terrorist attacked the U.S. because of the government's foreign policy in the Middle East.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:40 pm | #

Senate website hiding info on Sens who voted for Bush's wiretap law
http://pressesc.net/news/8700508...y-law-roll- call
The US Senate website is not publishing the roll call of votes by Senators on the bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act making President George W. Bush's illegal wiretapping order retroactively legal.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:40 pm | #

Newt Gingrich calls War on Terror "Phony"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politic...ich-calls- .html
Newt Gingrich, former Republican House Speaker, called the war on terror "phony" in a speech to a group of young conservatives in Washington, D.C. on Thursday. Gingrich also attacked the current and former Republican Congressional leadership in saying "We were in charge for six years …I don’t think you can look and say that was a great success."
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:40 pm | #

Ron Paul 2008 › About Ron
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/
Ron Paul 2008!!!
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:39 pm | #

Ron Paul Winning Iowa Debate Poll
http://www.ronpaulonline.com/con...t/view/180/222/
Ron clearly leads the online polls at Drudge and ABC...check out a snapshot here...
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:38 pm | #

Ron Paul Wins ABC Debate
http://geneseecrest.blogspot.com...abc- debate.html
I watched the debate this morning on ABC and have to say that I am disappointed. The buzz on the internet and the poll on the Drudge Report clearly shows that Ron Paul won the debate. I think the poll results clearly show that Ron Paul has plenty of support on the internet, and that is all the polls show.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:38 pm | #

More on Ron Paul and the Fed: Blog
http://pppad.blogspot.com/2007/0...03/my- hero.html
Ron Paul grilled Ben Bernanke.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:37 pm | #

Rice defends U.S. arms sale to Saudis
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top...to_saudis/3905/
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice Sunday defended a $20 million arms sale to Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states saying "there's nothing new in this." | Yeah that's the f*cking problem Condi... it's the same old b.s.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:37 pm | #

August 05, 2007 Ron Paul on War and Peace
Posted by Lew Rockwell at August 5, 2007 01:59 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/...ves/ 014453.html
Ron defends peace, and criticizes the neocon warmongers, in this neat clip from Drudge's video site. (Thanks to Mike Nelson)
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:36 pm | #

Another Taser Arrest Ends up in Death
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top...rest_dies/8284/
A man shocked twice with a Taser by Chicago police after allegedly resisting arrest died shortly after he was subdued, authorities said.| Taser = Judge Jury Execution
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:35 pm | #

MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ON LIST: WATER, FOOD AND GUNS & AMMO!
IF they do collapse dollar on purpose, remember you can barter for other stuff if you’re stocked up on essentials!
1.Water and water container’s, you can use old plastic milk carton’s I believe to stock up on water. You can also get water decontamination pills too, but their expensive. This link is for water storage. http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/housi...housi...79/356- 479.html You can go online and see many survival gear sites and tips.
2.Canned foods, and similar like beans, tuna, any type of long lasting food. Jerky, protien bars, cookies/crackers, canned fruit, just about anything canned. Water is very important here. Our water supply will be shut off for at least 6 months. Right now it's free and running from the tap. Store water in anything you can think of. Humans can only last 7 days without water. Also don't forget all of your bedding, comforters, blankets, sheets anything that will keep you warm in winter, assuming we are all still in the house and not at the concentration camps. Also, clothes, warm clothes, hats, gloves, it will get horribly cold during the winter time.
3.Guns & lots of ammo, knives, pepper spray, bats, ANY personal protection!
4.Crank weather radio with ablilities to charge cell phones, some have flashlight attached too. Cover the windows with tin foil or dark towels but leave several peep holes for you to be on the look-out. Keep flashlights and candles at low light and do NOT flash any light around in the house. Become a very dark and lifeless house. Also, take turns sleeping and being on watch. Never should we ALL be asleep at the same time, never. The thing to remember is to lay low, quiet, do NOT bring attention to yourself, do NOT go outside if at all possible. You DO NOT want to stand out for anyone. Lay low!
5.Plenty of batteries, all sizes or get rechargeable ones with farest expiration date, and a solar recharger, think NO electricity here!
6.If you have a baby, baby supplies, diapers, formula, etc. If you have pets, get their supplies too!
7.First aid kits, and painkiller’s, you can always barter for other things, if need be. Also, stock up on any personal medications, prescriptions, like 3-month supplies. Tea bags to stop bleeding or Quick Clot, that you can order online.
8.Hand can opener’s, and Coleman fuel or sterno’s to cook with and portable cook stove.
9.Toilet paper, Kleenex, paper towels, paper plates and plastic silverware so you don’t have to use your precious water or camping equipment for meals.
10.Generator if you can afford one, solar if possible
11.Anything solar or crank, like crank flashlights or like.
12.Matches that are strike anywhere, and preferable waterproof too! Candles & lighters.
13 Duct Tape and rope, firewood. Be careful here.....you do not want to start a fire in the fireplace because all will smell it, smoke will rise from the chemney and it's announcing your home AND HAVE SUPPLIES!
14 Laundry Detergent & bar soap & toothpaste, rubbing alcohol, blankets, hand sanitizers.
15. Bottles of booze, to use as antiseptics or to barter with.
16. CB or possibly ham radio, with extra batteries of all sizes!
DON’T PANIC but stock up on all survival gear, think what to get in case of NO electricity, no power, no water, and no gas for at least 6 months. Stock up on anything you can think of which would help you and your family survive and spread this widely and quickly!
Surviving Marshall Law. There will be curfews, rationing and confiscation of Firearms, too.
RULE #1. NEVER take the gov’ts word at face value-except when they tell you they will kill you! And DON’T believe any T.V. or radio either if Marshall Law breaks out, as gov’t will have total control, not that they don’t already damn near! Traitor’s from BOTH parties, and agencies have taken over our government and are removing the last of our precious Constitution UNLESS we can stop them! Now it’s law by the barrels of their guns do anything but obey and you’re dead or worse! You have listened to their lies for over century and where has it gotten you? But you can resist and MUST! Wake up, 9-11 WAS an inside job!
RULE #2: KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! Some rat might “snitch” on you to “authorities” in exchange for favors.
RULE #3: ANY AUTHORITY FIGURE IS THE ENEMY, who is cooperating with Marshall Law! Exception is if military arrest Bush/cohorts for treason, which they need to do, asap! There ARE some good police/military who are on our side too who know the truth and who are against the NWO too! Make sure you figure out which is which, fast!
RULE #4: You & your family’s personal survival is MORE IMPORTANT then obeying ANY DICTATE! If your prohibited from having an item that helps you survive, get the item and see Rule #2! Even hide some, if need be!
RULE #5: While keeping above rules in mind, With a safe place to stay, extra food or like! Do you think Marshall Law will go away on it’s own? NOT! If your not at least willing to help those liberating you, you will be a victim of gov’t oppression and worse, probably taken to one of those 800 FEMA camps they have!
RULE #6: With utmost care develop a SURVIVAL NETWORK! It can be neighborhood survival groups or like. Keep the numbers small. Communications between members needs to be free of wiretaps and like! A hole in tree or kids used as runner’s will work.
RULE #7: AVOID GOVERNMENT MONITORING AND ROUND UP! Know who patrols and where. Find ways around checkpoints. Avoid a gov’t roundup, by having a safe place to go, means to get there and supplies. Remember victim’s of Katrina! Better to be on run with freedom then wind up in one of their “800 FEMA civilian detention camps”.
RULE #8: Find a way to successfully resist! There are plenty of ways to through monkeywrench into State during Marshall Law. Break a survillence camera; misdirect a jackboot soldier, etc.
AND ALSO PRAY! We are fighting pure evil people here and need God’s help to defeat them, who have taken control of our gov’t! Stock up on lots of especially water, food and guns and ammo! Remember the Katrina victims! May God save American & world too and keep us all save from these pure evil, treasonous bastards in our own gov’t and worldwide, too, called the New World Order! Fight for restoration of our precious Constitution and NOW!
Remember, they want us fighting each other for food, water & like and NOT fighting them, and want us obeying and not resisting! OBEY=DEATH AND FEMA CAMPS OR WORSE! Remember, these people are NOT keeping you SAFE, THEY DID 9-11 AND ARE ABOUT TO DO IT AGAIN! They ARE the “terrorists”! The "war on terrorism" is PURE BULLSHIT AND TOTALLY BOGUS! They only want more surveillance for crushing any resistance to them! FACT! May God bless you and keep you all save! Hopefully, we can regain control of our gov’t and our freedoms or keep and regain the one's we've lost!
BE PATRIOTIC AND SPREAD THIS WIDELY AND QUICKLY! MAKE SURE YOU TELL ALL HOW TREASONOUS NAU AND SPP ARE! Swamp your Reps. and Senator’s local office’s with phone calls and in person & local and state offices too, DEMAND NO NAU, PERIOD AND ASK ALL WHERE THEY STAND ON IT! NORTH AMERICAN UNION (NAU) ALONG WITH SPP (go to www.stopspp.com) WILL FINISH OFF AMERICA, CANADA AND MEXICO’S ALL 3 SOVERIGHTY AND FREEDOM’S! AND DO THIS NOW!

Congress breaks for summer break today til end of August or 1st part of Sept. sometime so flood their office's TODAY with calls against NAU and calls to demand the IMMEDIATE arrest of Bush/Cheney and other's in our OWN gov't who are TRAITOR'S!
Treasonous Bush is now ordering our troops to invade Canada and crush Canadian protesters of NAU, when our troops and us too should be joining these protesters, instead! Spread the word about this viva talk radio and letters to editor and like but quickly as they protest August 20th! We MUST become the media as they aren’t telling the people the truth nor have for along time now! Exception is Lou Dobbs!

BECOME THE MEDIA! SHARE THIS IMPORTANT INFO AND FAST IF YOU LOVE AMERICA AND YOUR FREEDOM’S! Remember there is more to saving America and freedoms the just carrying a gun!
Please if you know someone in service educate them ASAP on how NAU will destroy America and our precious freedoms and our Constitution! URGE THEM TO REFUSE TO GO TO CANADA TO CRUSH PROTESTER’S, WHICH THEY LEGALLY CAN REFUSE AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDER AND DEMAND from ALL officials and NOW, BUSH BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE IMMEDIATELY AS WELL AS CHENEY AND OTHERS FOR TREASON AND STAND BY OUR TROOPS IF THEY REFUSE TO GO TOO!
Peace | 08.05.07 - 4:33 pm | #

CFR and the contol of media to support wars and end US sovereignty

"We must remember that in time of war what is said on the enemy’s side of the front is always propaganda, and what is said on our side of the front is truth and righteousness, the cause of humanity and a crusade for peace." — Walter Lippmann
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Huge resource for Outsourcing News and US Politics:
http://www.einnews.com/uspolitics/
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Interesting articles about media strategy and the iraq war:
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=34709
http://www.globalissues.org/Huma...ia/ Military.asp
http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues...2002Q4/ war.html
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Great videos on the issue of Media Control of Political Issues:

Spin - Brian Singer 1992
http://video.google.com/ videopla...181953466797353

Orwell Rolls In His Grave
http://video.google.com/ videopla...655342219448521

Network
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M...h? v=MTN3s2iVKKI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h?v=dib2- HBsF08

CBC - The Fifth Estate : The Lies That Led To War
http://video.google.com/ videopla...535985718796639

YouTube - Ron Paul in CNN Presidential Debate 6-5-2007
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y72Qz6A5CFE
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CFR / NAU & 2008 Presidential Candidates
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Save America from the CFR Takeover!
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"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established." - Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton

"Once the ruling members of the CFR shadow government have decided that the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of (the) CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy, and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition." - Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." - Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
http://www.fdrs.org/cfr_quotes.html
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:28 pm | #

Iraq Veterans Against the War 11.10.06 1 hr 6 min - Nov 12, 2006 - (2 ratings)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...456311855217986

Labor Beat - Rise of the Anti-War Soldier 32 min - Jan 27, 2007 - (1 rating)
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NJ for Democracy & DFA - Strategies for Ending the War in Iraq - A P... 1 hr 47 min - Aug 3, 2006 - (2 ratings)
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TheCitizen'sWarTribunal inDefense of Lt. Ehren Watada @ Bk, Law C... 1 hr 51 min - Feb 7, 2007
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HOLLYWOOD AGAINST WAR 22 min - May 12, 2007 - (4 ratings)
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MARCH ON THE PENTAGON: National Press Club Press Conference... 59 min - Apr 21, 2007
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Elaine Brower, military mom and Iraq war foe 28 min - Feb 8, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=TLxao86yGlI
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:24 pm | #

RON PAUL ON MORNING JOE JULY 09, 2007 - 10:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...related& search=
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:16 pm | #

>>>Michael Ledeen v. Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is Ledeen's article in 2003 about Dr. Ron Paul; anyone now wonder who the real traitors to the constitution are?

Ledeen is te scholar at AEI that planned the Iraq War, the Surges, and the rush to the Iranian attack...
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Dishonorable Congressman---RE: Ron Paul.
http://www.nationalreview.com/ le...edeen091003.asp
In July 10, Ron Paul, a congressman from Texas, delivered a tirade against his version of neoconservatism. He called it "Neo-Conned!" and he posted it on his website and had it distributed as best he could. A considerable part of it is devoted to his version of my writings, and is so inaccurate, so distorted, and so nasty, as to make me wish once again that this country had a decent libel law so that I could at least get some money from him and give him a healthy dose of the public humiliation he deserves. Unfortunately, members of Congress are protected from such suits. We've exchanged a few e-mails, and the best he could come up with was a generic "if I've gotten it wrong, I'm sorry," which is clearly not good enough from a man who accuses me of advocating the very opposite of what I have clearly written. He makes me into an advocate of big government, when I wrote Freedom Betrayed, a book that calls for open revolution against expanding governmental power. He brands me an advocate of military invasion of Iran, when I've written scores of articles and a good chunk of a well-known book, The War Against the Terror Masters, that explicitly defines military action against Iran a mistake. I want political action.

He takes many of my descriptions of Machiavelli's thought (from my Machiavelli on Modern Leadership) and turns them — often in distorted form — into my own advocacy. It's hard to explain to someone who doesn't read very well that there's a difference between authors and the subjects they write about. And he hasn't bothered to read my Tocqueville on American Character, in which I discuss the urgency of combating centralized state power and the centrality of human freedom in modern conflict.

The worst of Ron Paul's diatribe is his total sliming of all those he calls neocons. He says that, among other crazy and dangerous beliefs they (and therefore I): accept the notion that the ends justify the means; express no opposition to the welfare state; believe pertinent facts about how a society should be run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not have the courage to deal with it; hold Leo Strauss in high esteem; say that 9/11 resulted from the like of foreign entanglements, not from too many; endorse attacks on civil liberties, such as those in the Patriot Act; unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party. The last is the usual garbage from extremists who don't like Jews. The rest are wrong. The "ends and means" nonsense isn't even Machiavelli, although Paul thinks it is. He says "there is a recognized philosophic connection between modern-day neoconservatives and Irving Kristol, Leo Strauss, and Machiavelli." More nonsense. In fact, when Irving Kristol commented on my Machiavelli book, he went out of his way to criticize me for writing on such a subject, because he felt so negatively about Machiavelli.

The heart of Paul's attack on me is this paragraph:
In Ledeen's most recent publication, The War Against the Terror Masters, he reiterates his beliefs outlined in this 1999 Machaivelli book. He specifically praises: "Creative destruction…both within our own society and abroad…(foreigners) seeing America undo traditional societies may fear us, for they do not wish to be undone." Amazingly, Ledeen concludes: "They must attack us in order to survive, just as we must destroy them to advance our historic mission." If those words don't scare you, nothing will? He conveniently leaves out the context, which is a discussion of the basic conflict between us and the terror masters: a conflict between freedom and tyranny. I argue, as I argued during the Cold War with regard to Communism, and as I argued in my books on fascism earlier, that the conflict between America and tyrants is inevitable. It stems from the very nature of America, from our unique freedom and creativity, which has often been described as "creative destruction." Every serious writer about America has noticed the amazing speed with which we scrap old ideas, technologies, art forms and even the use of the English language. And it's obvious that more rigid societies, particularly those governed by tyrants, are frightened by the effects and the appeal of freedom on their own subjects. Our existence threatens them, undermines their legitimacy, and subverts their power. Therefore "they must attack us in order to survive," and, sooner or later, we must confront them and, I hope and trust, defeat them in order to advance our mission of spreading freedom. It should embarrass Congressman Paul to publicly expose himself as an ignoramus and a fool, and if he had the integrity he so loudly proclaims in his own behalf, he would have quietly apologized. But no; he just offers a weasely e-mail. A final point: Paul's accusations are not simply political disagreements, and his language is not merely critical. He is trying to demonize an entire group of people. He says we are not only wrong, but morally evil and an active danger to American society and the peace of the world. His attack, like those coming from the likes of Pat Buchanan and extremists on the other end of the political spectrum (look at David Frum's recent encounter with some of my leftist attackers), are incitements to personal violence. And this self-proclaimed libertarian hides behind the skirts of the very nanny state he so loudly deplores. If we had a libel law worthy of the name, he'd either quickly correct his statements and apologize to those he's libeled, or find himself looking for the money to pay the damages he has certainly incurred.— Michael Ledeen, an NRO contributing editor, is most recently the author of The War Against the Terror Masters. Ledeen is resident Scholar in the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute.
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Dr. Ron Paul wrote about these guys back in 2003 and Ledeen felt he had authority back then to show how the neo-con stand of giving up liberty for freedom and killing for peace was right and just and american.

Well almost 4 years later, let us see who is the honorable congressman and who is the mass murdering war criminal and traitor to this beautiful country!

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:09 pm | #

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2012.../site/newsweek/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...6052201080.html
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me--
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

http:// www.christianethicstoday....ell_009_29_.htm

The politically-based raids have begun!
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 4:05 pm | #

Thank you so much Sane.

We are all way to close, as a nation, for martial law to kick in. So close I have a really bad feeling about this. It's now the second week of August........tick tock tick tock. This is so insane. Keep that info coming boys, we are living on borrowed time right now.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 3:59 pm | #

http://www.earlyamerica.com/earl...tion/ const4.jpg
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:48 pm | #

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You are on a roll like I have not seen in a while! Thanks for the RP stuff especially some ofthe interview stuff. GS is an arrogant prick; why is he so certain? Because he knows who holds the keys to the kingdom!
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 3:51 pm | #

Gabriel A King
635 n12th st. Apt#1
Spearfish SD, 57783
Phone# 605-645-8705

I found this on page 40...I think that many of you are more aquainted with GAK than I .......
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:54 pm | #

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Just for any of you who are wondering about GAK:
I gave a call to this number this afternoon and got a machine. I left a brief message. Maybe he will poke his nose in and let us know he is still upright.
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 3:48 pm | #

I guess the plan is to try and convince bloggers that their constitutional rights do not exist, unfortunately anyone with a third degree education and access to the Internet can find out that the DOJ/FBI/CIA/Local cops have been acting in an illegal way since at least Ruby RIdge/Clinton

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Print these out for your local meetings, nothing like the originals:
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earl...om/doi/ doi.html
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earl...bill/ bill1.html
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earl...bill/ bill2.html
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earl...bill/ bill3.html
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earl...tion/ const1.jpg
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earl...tion/ const2.jpg
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earl...tion/ const3.jpg
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earl...tion/ const4.jpg
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:48 pm | #

"The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact." Henry A. Wallace 33rd Vice President of the United States

"...They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution." Henry A. Wallace 33rd Vice President of the United States

"The US is really beyond reason now. It is beyond our imagining to know what they are going to do next and what they are prepared to do. There is only one comparison: Nazi Germany."- Legendary playwright Harold Pinter

“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” Joseph Goebbels

“Intellectual activity is a danger to the building of character” Joseph Goebbels

“Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” Joseph Goebbels

“If the day should ever come when we [the Nazis] must go, if some day we are compelled to leave the scene of history, we will slam the door so hard that the universe will shake and mankind will stand back in stupefaction..” Joseph Goebbels

“Whoever can conquer the street will one day conquer the state, for every form of power politics and any dictatorship-run state has its roots in the street.” Joseph Goebbels

“If we are attacked we can only defend ourselves with guns not with butter.” Joseph Goebbels

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over” Joseph Goebbels
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:45 pm | #

Oh, I liked how gooliani said as president he would do more of what he did as Governor.

That's a scary thought.
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 12:07 pm | #

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At least give the man credit fro being and honest (fill in your own explicative).....
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 3:43 pm | #

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GOEBBELS v. BUSH/Rove

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Goebbels: Communism with the Mask Off
Bolshevics carry on a campaign, directed by the Jews, with the international underworld, against culture as such. Bolshevism is not merely anti-bourgeois; it is against human civilisation itself.

GWB: State of the Union 9/20/01
The leadership of al Qaeda has great influence in Afghanistan and supports the Taliban regime in controlling most of that country. In Afghanistan, we see al Qaeda's vision for the world.

GWB: Statement by the President in His Address to the Nation 9/11/01
America was targeted for attack because we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining."
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Goebbels: New Year's Eve 31 December 1943
Our people survived so brilliantly the test of enemy air terror during the year 1943 that the enemy can bury the hopes he had for it. The nights of bombing have indeed made us poorer, but also harder. The misery of air terror is to some degree the mortar that holds us together as a nation in the midst of all dangers. Our people have not fallen apart during the nightly fire storms as our enemies hoped and wished, rather have become a firm and unshakable community.

GWB: Statement by the President in His Address to the Nation 9/11/01
The pictures of airplanes flying into buildings, fires burning, huge structures collapsing, have filled us with disbelief, terrible sadness, and a quiet, unyielding anger. These acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. But they have failed; our country is strong.
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Goebbels: Communism with the Mask Off
Bolshevism denies religion as a principle, fundamentally and entirely. It recognises religion only as an "opium for the people". For the help and support of religious belief, however, National Socialism absolutely places in the foreground of its programme a belief in God and that transcendental idealism which has been destined by Nature to bring to expression the racial soul of a nation. Even ignoring the past, the present refutes the stupid and base claims our enemies use to conceal their actions, which oppose or destroy culture. It is a rape of sound understanding to justify the attacks of English or American terror planes on German or Italian cities on cultural grounds.

GWB: President Discusses War on Terrorism 11/8/01
This new enemy seeks to destroy our freedom and impose its views. We value life; the terrorists ruthlessly destroy it. We value education; the terrorists do not believe women should be educated or should have health care, or should leave their homes. We value the right to speak our minds; for the terrorists, free expression can be grounds for execution. We respect people of all faiths and welcome the free practice of religion; our enemy wants to dictate how to think and how to worship even to their fellow Muslims.
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Goebbels: In the Front Ranks
Whether man, woman or child, they were victims of a cynical enemy that is trying to win by evil and perfidious air terror what he is unable to do by force of arms: to break our people's morale. I do not need to talk about that. We all know what this war is about. The enemy himself has told us often enough that, if we are weak, we will have a peace compared to which war is a blessing. They are about an insidious attempt to exterminate the greatest and proudest people on earth. The German nation is resisting with unanimity, strong weapons, and the strong hearts of men, women and children. With unprecedented moral strength, they are withstanding the enemy's insidious attacks, its cowardly assault on their national honor, unity, and steadfastness, Our dead are their witnesses. I wish to speak so loudly here that no one can fail to hear. I stand here as an accuser before the world public. I accuse the enemy of conducting brutal air terror for no other reason than to torture a defenseless civilian population, to inflict sorrow, horrors, pain and death upon them as a way of forcing them to betray their nation. Such an attempt will never succeed. These cowardly deeds will only bring eternal shame on the nations whose governments carry on such contemptible and insidious warfare against women, old people and children. The Anglo-American military leadership differs only in that they not only make no distinctions between men, women and children, but do not even wish to. They intentionally and cynically carry the war to civilian areas, turn them into a battlegrounds, and force women, the aged and children to live and fight like soldiers.

GWB: President Bush's Address on Homeland Security 11/9/01
This enemy tries to hide behind a peaceful faith. But those who celebrate the murder of innocent men, women, and children have no religion, have no conscience, and have no mercy.
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Goebbels: The Winter Crisis is Over
True and loyal allies, the Axis nations, stand at our side. They too are fighting for their lives. Nearly all of Europe is working to support our war effort. The fruits of our common fighting and industry will one day come. After victory, our part of the world will be a powerful continental community comprised of free peoples who have devoted themselves to a great common cause.

GWB: President Discusses Year-End Accomplishments in Cabinet Meeting 12/11/03
Let me make sure everybody understands that men and women from our country, who proudly wear our uniform, risked their life to free Iraq. Men and women from other countries, in a broad coalition, risked their lives to free Iraq. And the expenditure of U.S. dollars will reflect the fact that U.S. troops and other troops risked their life. Now, we want to work with all countries. We have a common goal, and that is to see that Iraq is free and peaceful. It is in every nation's interest that Iraq be free and peaceful. And we welcome contributions, we welcome people's willingness to participate in this difficult, yet important job of rebuilding Iraq.
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Goebbels: Total War
A Bolshevization of the Reich would mean the liquidation of our entire intelligentsia and leadership, and the descent of our workers into Bolshevist-Jewish slavery. They find workers for the Siberian tundra in the forced labor battalions of Moscow, as the Führer said in his proclamation on 30 January.

GWB: Remarks by the President on the Six-Month Anniversary of the September 11th Attacks
Here is what we already know: some states that sponsor terror are seeking or already possess weapons of mass destruction; terrorist groups are hungry for these weapons, and would use them without a hint of conscience. And we know that these weapons, in the hands of terrorists, would unleash blackmail and genocide and chaos.
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"During a war, news should be given out for instruction rather than information." -Joseph Paul Goebbels

"The war made possible for us the solution of a whole series of problems that could never have been solved in normal times." -Joseph Paul Goebbels

"Not every item of news should be published. Rather must those who control news policies endeavor to make every item of news serve a certain purpose."-Joseph Paul Goebbels

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion."-Joseph Paul Goebbels
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:42 pm | #

Well, I just had a brain-fart...but a good one!
Since almost no one with any sense "trusts" the accuracy of those electronic voting machines, why don't we put in an effective (yet simple) backup plan to verify the outcome of the Presidential election. This plan unfortunately "cannot" be hacked...so it should be pretty accurate.
We will require a trusted volunteer at every election place, and a 3x5 index card for each voter.
Upon completion of voting using the "hacked" electronic machine, each individual who voted takes a few extra minutes to walk outside to the trusted volunteer. They then fill out a 3x5 index card with the following information:
1 - The name of the Presidential candidate they voted for.
2 - The name and address of the person voting.
3 - The 5th number of their Social Security #...(worthless by itself, but easily verifiable if required)
4 - The state and district they are voting from.

The trusted volunteer will collect all these index cards, separating them by Candidate and place then into boxes. They will then be taken to the volunteer's house, or placed in a local church (with their permission).
After the election, if the results are fishy...we have a solid paper trail that can be counted by a team of volunteers and compared against the electronic votes. If the results are then determined to be "grossly innacurate"...we have enough info to verify that "real people" voted one way, but the machines voted a different way. (Which seems to just "happen" for some reason...)

Also, we can pay the trusted volunteer for his/her time and effort. Everyone who fills out an index card can make a small donation of 25 cents to the volunteer. This should equal anywhere from 50.00 to a couple hundred...depending on turnout. Not a bad job for one day !!!

Please distribute this idea freely to anyplace you would like. Plaster it all over the internet. I would enjoy reading it on many sites...that will be reward enough for me. I just want the satisfaction of knowing the votes are counted accurately!
BTW - A copy of this e-mail has been sent to the RonPaul2008.com website already.
Makz Sense | 08.05.07 - 3:41 pm | #

WHO CARES IF HE DOESN'T WIN--HE CAN RUN AS AN INDEPENDANT.
Wendy Hirata | 08.05.07 - 3:40 pm | #

DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to [REINSTATE THE PROPER] Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends. We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

— John Hancock
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:39 pm | #

Ron Paul talks about the abusive Patriot Act!
11 min - Mar 12, 2007 - (167 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...h? v=6O7D7nDF0U8
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:37 pm | #

Ron Paul on the Middle East
10 min - May 20, 2007 - (109 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h? v=mg7CeCFPEkU
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:37 pm | #

>>WHISTLEBLOWER GIVES UNDISPUTED EVIDENCE THAT CFR/UN PLAN TO END US SOVEREIGNTY
http://video.google.com/ videopla...758020554799808
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:36 pm | #

JFK:
http://video.google.com/ videopla...662559138481080
http://www.infowars.com/ articles...iety_speech.htm
MLK on Vietnam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h?v=b80Bsw0UG- U
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:35 pm | #

Ron Paul VS Major Media
7 min - May 20, 2007 - (112 ratings)
After so much spin on what Ron Paul said, concerning 911, at the South Carolina 2nd GOP debate, I decided to make a video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h? v=mWMBI39UhUQ
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:34 pm | #

Congress Acquired by Carlyle Group in Leveraged Buyout
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ al...rl_b_56043.html
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced Thursday that they have accepted an offer from the Carlyle Group to buy Congress for $100 billion.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:33 pm | #

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I am not sure if this is satire or not....
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 3:34 pm | #

Congressman Ron Paul on Conservative Roundtable
28 min - Jul 12, 2007 - (195 ratings)
Roundtable, hosted by Howard Phillips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...h? v=_suZvyB69YM
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:34 pm | #

Ron Paul on Immigration & Borders
3 min - May 20, 2007 - (77 ratings)
Ron Paul talkes about Immigration and the boarders, along with why ther is a lack of boarder security
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...h? v=7U4RgUh5G38
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:33 pm | #

Congressman Ron Paul Interviewed by Jack Kenny
7 min - Mar 23, 2007 - (478 ratings)
Monetary policy, national defense and campaigning in New Hampshire are the topics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h? v=2VzHDxYxKrE
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:33 pm | #

Ron Paul Revolution
4 min - Mar 23, 2007 - (270 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h? v=UhkiPcq8pkM
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:32 pm | #

RonPaulIowaStrawPollDVD.mpg
40 min - Jul 7, 2007 - (222 ratings)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...724646717174405
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:31 pm | #

Ron Paul GOP Debate Remix
5 min - May 6, 2007 - (297 ratings)
Here is the candidate the mainstream doesn't know what to do with
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M...h? v=MgjI_WROg6w
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:31 pm | #

Bill Maher Vindicates Ron Paul's Argument
3 min - May 19, 2007 - (287 ratings)
demonstrating how Ron Paul is the only candidate who doesn't result to warmongering fear tactics, but instead speaks the truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h?v=4SsSZ- lvPfc
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:30 pm | #

Ron Paul Is Patriotism
10 min - Jul 8, 2007 - (232 ratings)
The Ron Paul Library (index of more than 500 writings by Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h? v=0kyZT4Jv9fA
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:29 pm | #

Freedom is Popular
8 min - Jun 29, 2007 - (2774 ratings)
It might just be that freedom is popular." "We can revive the true spirit of America."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h? v=zsLcQiHKhic
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:29 pm | #

Ron Paul Wins Debate Despite Being Defamed by Pundits
5 min - May 16, 2007 - (335 ratings)
Ron Paul Wins Debate (By Polls) Despite Being Defamed by Pundits during the FOX Republican Debate in South Carolina (05/15/07)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FXE45ncH1a8
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:28 pm | #

Ron Paul and the Constitution
5 min - May 20, 2007 - (33 ratings)
Ron Paul talks about the Constitution and his positions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...h? v=gHE_0bCSIVM
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:27 pm | #

Ron Paul gets people talking on "The View"
10 min - May 17, 2007 - (933 ratings)
Chandra Wilson Elisabeth Hasselbeck over Ron Paul and why we need to re-think foreign policy. Proof that Ron Paul gets people talking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D...h? v=D6SfmXigHpE
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:27 pm | #

Congressman Ron Paul on Iran Situation (3-15-06)
6 min - Jun 21, 2006 - (210 ratings)
Congressman Ron Paul on the Iran Situation from the ides of March '06.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?v=9RBBV- _Uudk
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:26 pm | #

Ron Paul on Neil Cavuto Show 6-26-07
6 min - Jun 26, 2007 - (815 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...h? v=1ZnzGredcIs
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:25 pm | #

Peace | 08.05.07 - 3:23 pm | #

psssst all regulars....goto 58
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:25 pm | #

Liberalism by Ludwig von Mises
http://www.scribd.com/word/downl...8? extension=pdf
Rothbard - What has Government done to our Money
http://www.scribd.com/word/downl...0? extension=pdf
The New Libertarian Manifesto - Samuel Edward Konkin III
http://www.scribd.com/word/downl...9? extension=pdf
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:24 pm | #

**heavy sigh** What a way to start the week of news!

Sane, as always dear friend, thank you for putting this blog up today. Personally, I feel we need to be reminded often of this very unreal situation that, possibly soon, will become very real. I would enjoy losing myself into the hope of Ron Paul as pres but knowing what I/we do about certain steps being taken to make martial law happen and ultimately our capture, this is one ugly truth that cannot be ignored. It would absolutely put our country in a complete STOP position, turning America OFF so to speak.

We have actual criminals running this country AND CONTINUE to pass more and more laws to make certain that when martial law is declared, that it will remain in place for quite sometime. It really makes all else in our country seem hard to focus on. I've said this before, everything is on STAND BY mode. Not "lets start building these FEMA camps now." Noooooooo, everything is ready to take us hostage and by the thousands, if not millions, gas us dead as soon as possible. Truly unreal..........feels like the twilight zone only difference is, we ARE awake. Keep that info coming Sane, we all appreciate your hard work in this manner.

Preparing for Martial Law, Part 2: Enforcement and Infrastructure
http://miami.indymedia.org/news/...news/...007/05/ 8471.php
Whelp folks, I hate to be the pallbearer at our country's funeral, but I am here to inform you, in case you missed it on Fox News, that the apparatus for martial law is being quietly, but steadily, implemented. If one has been paying attention to the laws that are getting passed over the last few years we can see the telltale signs that we are getting closer and closer to such a scenario. Not only is this government setting up the legal framework for martial law, but they are also setting up the policing apparatus and infrastructure to carry it out.
Peace | 08.05.07 - 3:23 pm | #

The Papers of Thomas Jefferson:
http://www.princeton.edu/~tjpapers/
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:23 pm | #

Ron Paul Revolution , Memphis Style
5 min - Jul 10, 2007 - (400 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FFSCXIffv1s
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:22 pm | #

THERE IS NO GREATER POWER in the world today than that wielded by the manipulators of public opinion in America. No king or pope of old, no conquering general or high priest ever disposed of a power even remotely approaching that of the few dozen special interest men abd a few wineb who control America's mass media of news and entertainment.

Their power is not distant and impersonal; it reaches into every home in America, and it works its will during nearly every waking hour. It is the power that shapes and molds the mind of virtually every citizen, young or old, rich or poor, simple or sophisticated.

The mass media form for us our image of the world and then tell us what to think about that image. Essentially everything we know—or think we know—about events outside our own neighborhood or circle of acquaintances comes to us via our daily newspaper, our weekly news magazine, our radio, or our television.

It is not just the heavy-handed suppression of certain news stories from our newspapers or the blatant propagandizing of history-distorting TV "docudramas" that characterizes the opinion-manipulating techniques of the media masters. They exercise both subtlety and thoroughness in their management of the news and the entertainment that they present to us.

For example, the way in which the news is covered: which items are emphasized and which are played down; the reporter's choice of words, tone of voice, and facial expressions; the wording of headlines; the choice of illustrations—all of these things subliminally and yet profoundly affect
the way in which we interpret what we see or hear. According to one senior news editor at the ABC network "no editor is allowed to even modigy one word without the approval of their bosses who belong to special interest groups or are directly part of a group selected to manipulate American minds".

Hon. Ron Paul's debate issue is one of the prime example of how the establishment's inner circles belonging to foreign special interest groups mega corporations trying so hard to devise a method or create a perception to negate the immense popularity of this maverick Jeffersonian patriot. If Mr. Ron Paul does not win or at least make a very significant impact in 08's Presidential elections then we all must know one fact without a doubt that we have lost America and there's no hope. Unless, we face the criminal cabals with a revolutionary civil war like tactics! God help us all.
Ed Melik, Esq. | 08.05.07 - 3:22 pm | #

pssst RILA... go to 58
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:20 pm | #

Ron Paul Rally - Mountain View California July 14th 2007 pt1
10 min - Jul 14, 2007 - (505 ratings)
This is part one of the speech given by Ron Paul at the Ron Paul presidential Rally near Google Headquarters in MountainView CA. Filmed July 14th 2007.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h?v=l-l- os1LYjo
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:19 pm | #

Congressman Ron Paul speaks after forum
10 min - Jul 1, 2007 - (650 ratings)
Congressman Ron Paul, a GOP presidential candidate, speaks to more than 600 supporters June 30 after the Iowans for Tax Relief/Iowa Christian Alliance forum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h?v=NnXHM522- EE
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:19 pm | #

Ron Paul Supporters Demand Answers From Sean Hannity Concerning the True Issues That Face Conservative Americans
6 min - May 19, 2007 - (624 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h?v=cch- yKaTyW4
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:18 pm | #

Heavy Heated Ron Paul Debate on CNN's Paula Zahn Now
6 min - May 22, 2007 - (884 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FDnkpTkNXtM
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:16 pm | #

LINCOLN KILLED FOR TRYING TO STOP A FEDERAL RESERVE
Lincoln Assassination Conspiracy TheoriesLINCOLN'S ASSASSINATION WAS THE RESULT OF A CONSPIRACY OF POWERFUL INTERNATIONAL BANKERS. This theory is that Abraham Lincoln was killed as a result of his ...
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Thirst for Justice - Two Great President Of United StatesBoth Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy were assassinated while they held ... He was assassinated by an agent of the Bankers shortly after the War ended. ...
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Jewish Capitalism & President LincolnWhy was Abraham Lincoln assassinated? There have been many theories. British bankers were against his protectionist policies. ...
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Lincoln Assassination PlotYou are viewing a most unusual 1861 illustration featuring an assassination plot against Abraham Lincoln. It is from an 1861 edition of Harper's Weekly, ...
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Federal Reserve Paper and the National DebtAbraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy assassinated for their positions against the ... All the Bankers have to do to keep their power is to get rid of the few ...
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The Lessons of Abraham LincolnLincoln showed the bankers the door, something which could be usefully repeated all ... After Lincoln's assassination, Congress continued to finance massive ...
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:14 pm | #

JFK KILLED FOR DEFYING THE FEDERAL RESERVE

Kennedy Money: Debt Free or silver give-a-away?My latest research says that Kennedy allowed Silver Certificates to be issued by amending a Truman Executive Order. Some claim that those Silver ...
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Economic Rape of America - The Destruction of the U.S. DollarThere is a rumor that the "Kennedy silver certificates" were actually printed and that one of the first things President Lyndon B. Johnson did after ...
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Myth#9 President Kennedy was assassinated by the Fedral Reserve25, 48 Stat 51) to which Kennedy refers permits the President to issue silver certificates in various denominations (mostly $1, $2, $5, and $10) and in any ...
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:13 pm | #

Ron Paul Most-Demanded GOP Presidential Candidate
2 min - May 30, 2007 - (1335 ratings)
Ron Paul is the most-demanded GOP presidential candidate on Eventful.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h? v=KZL6pVRb_YA
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:11 pm | #

Ron Paul arriving at Colbert Report!
4 min - Jun 14, 2007 - (750 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...h? v=CS62aGQ852M
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:11 pm | #

Stephanopolous interviews Ron Paul on ABC 7/8
7 min - Jul 8, 2007 - (717 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h? v=yAh9sp7ebdY

No conspiracy against Ron Paul???

Watch the last few seconds of this interview, then you will know why RP got only 2 real questions and 2 One liner questions

You can also watch the debate tonight on C-SPAN at 9:30ESST / 6:30 PST

http://c-span.org

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:10 pm | #

Ron Paul On Bloomberg TV 6/20/07
6 min - Jun 21, 2007 - (476 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h?v=z-JvW- WiXOw
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:06 pm | #

Congressman Ron Paul Speaks Out AGAINST War With IRAN -
44 min - Apr 20, 2006 - (222 ratings)
Ron Paul addresses the House of Representitives against the bi-partisan tide of war-mongerers. He gives an excellent historical case.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...931596878368112
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:04 pm | #

REP. RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT | REAL TIME W BILL MAHER 3-3...
6 min - Mar 31, 2007 - (1354 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h? v=xo6KIusCBoU
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:03 pm | #

Ron Paul on dissent in a time of war.
24 min - May 22, 2007 - (666 ratings)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...391565012624048
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:03 pm | #

ATHF-sent already

in 60 sec, let me know if you did not get it
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:55 pm | #

brb goin to check
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 3:02 pm | #

Ron Paul of Texas - The End of Dollar Hegemony
35 min - Aug 31, 2006 - (256 ratings)
C-SPAN...HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS Before the US
http://video.google.com/ videopla...695139643041382
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:02 pm | #

RON PAUL AT THE NEW HAMPSHIRE GOP DEBATE || JUNE 5TH 2...
7 min - Jun 6, 2007 - (1142 ratings)
Ron Paul debates fellow GOP at the June 5th CNN debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...h? v=8_BjK1QqDOo
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:02 pm | #

Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Book Club
3 min - May 25, 2007 - (1398 ratings)
Presidential candidate Ron Paul assigns some reading material to Rudy Giuliani. Discussion on CNN's "Situation Room"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h? v=jhjfuBYw8Ko
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:00 pm | #

Anyone who says there is no conspiracy against sovereignty and The Constitution has lost their fricking mind.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:48 pm | #

What if this whole forum is an illusion and no body in here REALLY exists??
Except maybe 3-6 real humans, the rest are random answers and talking points chosen by a bot in the basement of the langley building!!!

Just a thought from the mind of Patrick!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 2:59 pm | #

Ron Paul Fan Club
4 min - May 24, 2007 - (1546 ratings)
Neil Cavuto interviews Congressman Ron Paul before the debate in South Carolina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...h? v=otZgd9wxE98
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:59 pm | #

CNN / Lou Dobbs - Ron Paul Interview 2-26-2007
5 min - Feb 27, 2007 - (1113 ratings)
. Let's Hope that CNN continues to be fair with Ron Paul in the future...Presidential race Ron Paul Republican CNN Lou Dobbs President election 2008 america vote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h?v=EF37- 9OGblw
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:57 pm | #

Texas Republican slams Bush "demented philosophy of conquest
3 min - Feb 14, 2007 - (1458 ratings)
Congressman Paul was very straight-forward in his displeasure for Bush's "demented philosophy of conquest." Here is a portion of his floor speech: RON PAUL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dZmPS0XmeBw
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:57 pm | #

ATHF-sent already

in 60 sec, let me know if you did not get it
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:55 pm | #

Ron Paul on Federal Reserve, banking and economy
9 min - Jan 17, 2007 - (957 ratings)
Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) from the documentary "FIAT EMPIRE - Why the Federal Reserve Violates the US Constitution."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h? v=ji_G0MqAqq8
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:54 pm | #

Sane?????????
patrickgragg@hotmail.com

if I keep loosing access to yahoo~
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 2:50 pm | #

did it get to you?
Anonymous | 08.05.07 - 2:52 pm | #

Information Freedom and Revolution
6 min - Mar 21, 2007 - (562 ratings)
Do your conscience and your nation a favor and please investigate Ron Paul for President
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h? v=SwRXp8ZMdNQ
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:51 pm | #

Ron Paul CNN Late Edition (05/20/07)
8 min - May 20, 2007 - (2275 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h? v=qD9eO7qToTk
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:50 pm | #

Sane?????????
patrickgragg@hotmail.com

if I keep loosing access to yahoo~
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 2:50 pm | #

>>>>>>Ron Paul at debate on ABC
2 min - Aug 5, 2007
First 2 segments on ABC debate with George Stephanopoulos...Ron Paul ABC stephanopoulos debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=NKNaFGDuuUg
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Rudy Has No Clue About Health Care 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?v=9qVrokl3- 2I
Rudy Lies About His Second Amendment And Pro Life Stand 52 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h? v=YJfbQh547o4
Gov. Romney: Is Clueless About Military [Ron Paul has most active duty supporters], Economy [He inherits $300 million, how does he know?], and Family [Separates children from families in African juevenille rape rooms] 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h? v=vvtJDBnm0O4
Gov. Romney: My Biggest Mistake was thinking people won't see what a fraud I am 23 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=H0te3KeuZaU
Gov. Romney: I Think The President Has Kept Us Safe Because I Do Not Read The Intelligence Reports 32 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eqbx7vk1MQg
Gov. Romney: Fix It First So I Can Break Something New 53 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=u44cnqqqdS4
Gov. Romney: I Think Pakistan Is A Moderate Muslim State 2 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (4 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h? v=tXeclPzdlno
Gov. Romney: I Will Continue To Believe In Outlandish Conspiracy Theories About Radical Jihad As An Excuse To Nuke The Middle East And Lock Up American Citizens 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eYZHITSAdWM
Gov. Romney: I Am Financially Personally Responsible For My Healthcare As I Have $300 Million 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h? v=WnX5ZsmRgT8
Gov. Romney: We Need A Surge of Support For Me That Is Why I Purchase Poll Results Like the One In Iowa 38 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h? v=2e9rKP0Ssqk
Gov. Romney On Sen. Obama: Jane Fonda To Doctor Strangelove Is The Extent Of My Simple Mind, Proving I cannot Tackle Complex Issues 37 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (5 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h? v=z80ss1F6FV8
Gov Romney Backpeddles On Sen. Brownback's Factual Statements 4 min - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FPboc61AZes

GE/AOL/Disney/NewsCorp/NationalAmusement [CNN/CNNHeadline/MSNBC/ABC/NBC/CNBC/FOX/FoxNews/ CBS] Blackout all news of Republican Debate.

Anyone who says there is no conspiracy against sovereignty and The Constitution has lost their fricking mind.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:48 pm | #

Ron Paul - Gulf of Tonkin
2 min - Jan 14, 2007 - (618 ratings)
Ron Paul warns of a contrived incident to provoke war with Iran, a "Gulf of Tonkin" type incident, January 11, 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...h? v=6d8MIENVtKw
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:48 pm | #

Ron Paul on Tucker Carlson Show 6-14-07
8 min - Jun 14, 2007 - (820 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eIzP8ONtkv8
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:47 pm | #

cant access my yahoo acct. something is fishy in denmark!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 2:46 pm | #

Educating Rudy
5 min - May 17, 2007 - (3225 ratings)
Video taken from Representative Ron Paul's speech at the New Hampshire Liberty Forum in Feb. 2007.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h? v=xcQQ05XtAQ4
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:46 pm | #

It is me:

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:45 pm | #

Ron Paul on Colbert Report 6/13/07
5 min - Jun 14, 2007 - (1957 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...h? v=7ErBROBgERs
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:44 pm | #

lot of traffic, new article on Ron Paul and the debate that the mainstream media wishes never happened
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:44 pm | #

Seriously,Sane are you here right now??
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 2:44 pm | #

Ron Paul 0wnz the Federal Reserve
5 min - Feb 19, 2007 - (2283 ratings)
Ron Paul from committee floor. House Financial Services Committee. Bernanke present
Dated 2/17/2007 C-SPAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A...h? v=A4kxTkhwR_Q
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:43 pm | #

hey is anyone here or is my 'puter just messing with my head? i posted the below post a long time ago,and it says there are 20 ppl in here, somebody please respond

MAYDAY!! MAYDAY!!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.05.07 - 2:42 pm | #

Ron Paul : Don't tread on me
8 min - Jun 9, 2007 - (2164 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FG_HuFtP8w8
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:42 pm | #

Ron Paul : Stop Dreaming
9 min - May 14, 2007 - (3852 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h? v=IWfIhFhelm8
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http://www.ronpaul2008.com
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:42 pm | #

Candidates@Google: Ron Paul
1 hr 6 min - Jul 14, 2007 - (3863 ratings)
2008 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul in discusion with Google executive Elliot Schrage as part of the company's Candidates@Google series....ron paul candidates@google
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h? v=yCM_wQy4YVg

Ron Paul of Texas - The End of Dollar Hegemony
35 min - Aug 31, 2006 - (256 ratings)
.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/ cr021506.htm...C-SPAN...HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS Before the US
http://video.google.com/ videopla...695139643041382

Ron Paul on dissent in a time of war.
24 min - May 22, 2007 - (666 ratings)
/ More Speeches and essays by Ron Paul can be found at: http://www.house.gov/paul/legis.shtml For even
http://video.google.com/ videopla...391565012624048

Congressman Ron Paul Speaks Out AGAINST War With IRAN - April ...
44 min - Apr 20, 2006 - (222 ratings)
Ron Paul addresses the House of Representitives against the bi-partisan tide of war-mongerers. He gives an excellent historical case on why and how this deception
http://video.google.com/ videopla...931596878368112

Congressman Ron Paul, MD - We've Been NeoConned
51 min - Jan 24, 2007 - (213 ratings)
org No sexy, hot girls, babes, or bikini contest footage here. But it's Congressman Ron Paul....Congressman Ron Paul, MD
http://video.google.com/ videopla...174553630131591

RON PAUL ON THE U.S. ECONOMY - with GoldSilver.com's Mike M
43 min - Jun 7, 2007 - (52 ratings)
A fascinating one on one interview with Congressman Ron Paul, Republican Presidential candidate from the state of Texas. Congressman Paul, perhaps the last honest politician in Wahington
http://video.google.com/ videopla...924545087333822

RonPaulIowaStrawPollDVD.mpg
40 min - Jul 7, 2007 - (222 ratings)
time to act. Vote in the Iowa GOP straw poll. Join a Ron Paul meetup group at ronpaul.meetup.com Be a part of the revolution
http://video.google.com/ videopla...724646717174405

Congressman Ron Paul on Conservative Roundtable
28 min - Jul 12, 2007 - (195 ratings)
Roundtable, hosted by Howard Phillips, welcomes Dr. Ron Paul, Republican congressman from Surfside, TX. Paul talks about his run to reclaim his seat after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...h? v=_suZvyB69YM

Ron Paul Speech Las Vegas 7/7/07
44 min - Jul 9, 2007 - (21 ratings)
Ron Paul speaking at the Paris Hotel in Las Vegas NV about is presidential campaign. July 7, 2007.
http://video.google.com/ videopla...202010210782365

Neo-CONNED speech by Ron Paul
51 min - May 23, 2007 - (10 ratings)
Neo-CONNED is a speech Ron Paul gave on the house floor July 10, 2003. This is very important as it goes over many aspects of the
http://video.google.com/ videopla...829089909498224
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:38 pm | #

Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Would Make America Safer
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/...rica- safer.html
Had America been governed by the principles of Ron Paul, America would be a safer and more peaceful nation. And it outrages me that idiots like Rudy Giuliani can preach offense on the war on terror as if it was a sporting event. And Tom Tancredo can say that he will bomb Muslim holy sites as a deterrent. Are you kidding me? Muslims around the world should not have to pay for the actions of the terrorists. Isn't that state sponsored terrorism? Is America a state sponsored terrorist?

Ron Paul is Right: Blowback is Undisputable Fact
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/...table- fact.html
It is not surprising that Ron Paul's stand has not earned him many friends ... but the truth of the matter dictates that Mr. Bush very expressly stated that nation building was not in the best interest for American or the world, yet a few short years later this very concept is being applied – albeit using different terminology – in Iraq.
9/11 Commission Report: "The constant refrain of Pakistanis is that the United States long treated them as allies of convenience."
9/11 Commission Report: "America's perennially troubled diplomacy efforts in the Muslim world...'by and large ceded the court of public opinion' to al Qaeda."

Ron Paul Only One Prepared to Stop America's Pending Economic Crash
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/...omic- crash.html
In a day and time that foreclosure numbers are soaring and the grim reaper of adjustable rate mortgages finds a plentiful harvest for his sickle, a pending economic crash is inevitable. While there are still those who champion the growth in the job market and cite the numbers of jobs added on a monthly basis, even the staunchest believers in the notion that America is in a fiscal upswing are beginning to sound a bit shrill. Thus it is not surprising that those who oppose the ideas of pandering to the public sentiment via the implementation of short-sighted and quite possibly short lived social reforms and programs that make a segment of the population feel good right now, but carry little foresight for the fiscal as well as societal needs for the future, are looking for a hero. There is only one man who is willing to stand up against the practices so reminiscent of the fiscal policies associated with Hungary’s Goulash Communism: Ron Paul! If we may believe the findings of USA Election Polls, the incumbent representative from Texas’ 14th district which encompasses Galveston as well as other southern Greater Houston areas alongside the Gulf of Mexico, is offering a message that makes sense to some voters.While only sporting low single digits in the January to July poll listings, the numbers are showing a general increase, and those convinced that only libertarian principles coupled with republican know-how will avoid the crash – or at least lessen its impact – bank on Ron Paul to make it happen.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:36 pm | #

No they didn't. You need to stop jumping to conclusions. Those were two separate polls. A pre and post debate poll.
Mitch Port | 08.05.07 - 2:22 pm | #
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Yup, but even in just the "during poll" I have seen the manipulation myself:

Here are the reports I posted:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=34742#120874

http://www.haloscan.com/comments...? a=34742#120875

Now tell me how that could have possibly happened even though it was a small #. Also is it a sign of some other manipulation going on like Cheney's order to kill Pat Tillman?
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:28 pm | #

Preparing for Martial Law, Part 2: Enforcement and Infrastructure
http://miami.indymedia.org/news/...007/05/ 8471.php
Whelp folks, I hate to be the pallbearer at our country's funeral, but I am here to inform you, in case you missed it on Fox News, that the apparatus for martial law is being quietly, but steadily, implemented. If one has been paying attention to the laws that are getting passed over the last few years we can see the telltale signs that we are getting closer and closer to such a scenario. Not only is this government setting up the legal framework for martial law, but they are also setting up the policing apparatus and infrastructure to carry it out.

DETENTION FACILITIES (A.K.A. CONCENTRATION CAMPS)
Last year, Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root, received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security to provide “temporary detention and processing capabilities.” The contract -- announced Jan. 24, 2006 -- calls for preparing for “an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs” in the event of other emergencies, such as “a natural disaster.” The press release offered no details about where these facilities were to be built, or when. Now, the idea that there is going to be massive influx of immigrants suddenly flooding into the United States is highly doubtful; they will most likely trickle in like they have always done for minimum wage jobs. It is much more likely that these camps will be built for these other "new programs", and since the DoD has not given us any specifics as to what these new programs are, we can only make an educated guesses. I think Daniel Ellsberg, who brought us the Pentagon Papers which documented the lies that got us into Vietnam, is as good as anyone to make an educated guess. Here is what he says: "Almost certainly this is preparation for a roundup after the next 9/11 for Mid-Easterners, Muslims and possibly dissenters, They've already done this on a smaller scale, with the 'special registration' detentions of immigrant men from Muslim countries, and with Guantanamo." (FEMA also manages world-war II era camps for just such a contingency. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pa...ages/ camps.html )

FENCES TO KEEP US IN, NOT IMMIGRANTS OUT
Now, think about this for a minute. While the Minutemen are screaming for tougher border controls by the federal government to keep these "illegals" out of the country, the government responds by using their outrage and rationale to hide its real agenda of building fences TO KEEP US IN -- a perfect example of the Hegelian dialectic at work. If you are unfamiliar with this dialectic, it goes something like this: first, create a PROBLEM (Minutemen and citizens call for the government to stop illegal immigration); second, REACT to the problem (congress passes laws to curb immigrants and gives contracts to firms to carry out the mandate); and, third, create a SOLUTION (build fences with surveillance cameras on the border).

Now, if the Minutemen aren't a creation of a government psyop's agency than they are just plain dupes who are being used by them. It is not the Mexicans or Guatemalans that the Minutemen should be worried about, but their own government. It is their government that is going to be responsible for the destruction of 'their way of life'.

You can dispute this theory if you wish, but if you know anything about North American Union, passed quietly in 2005, you will know that keeping immigrants out is the last thing this government is worried about. The North American Union was passed without debate by the citizenry of the United States, or even congress for that matter. It destroys the sovereignty of this country and replaces it with an E.U. like regional power. Think Orwell's 1984 'Oceania' for a comparison. The North America Union is an open border agreement between Mexico, Canada and the United States, and allows freight from Mexico and Canada to travel unhampered in the U.S. The scariest part about this agreement is that now Mexican and Canadian troops can come over into the United States for policing duties should an emergency be declared. Incredible.

Here is more about the plan from Source Watch:
"The 'plan to create' a North American Union in 2010 as a regional government -- comprising a collective government for the United States, Canada, and Mexico -- is "directly stated only" in the May 2005 task force report Building a North American Community published by the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Jerome Corsi wrote June 26, 2006. Bush is "pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada," which, Corsi wrote, is "the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy."
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php

Remember, Daddy Bush and Jr. are globalists [and Nazi's]. Bush Sr. spoke glowingly of a New World Order in which he praised a world "in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping roles to fulfull the promises of its founders." Both Bushes hold no allegiance to the United States of America; however, they will use United States resources in both terms of money and bodies to fulfill they goal of world government. Also, here's what Bush Jr. thinks of the U.S. Constitution: "It's just a goddamn piece of paper." ( http://www.counterpunch.org/ leup...pp12142005.html )
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:22 pm | #

No they didn't. You need to stop jumping to conclusions. Those were two separate polls. A pre and post debate poll.
Mitch Port | 08.05.07 - 2:22 pm | #

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Death Culture
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911 Accountability
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(Not-so) Friendly Fascism
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Project For A New American Perpetual War
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http://masters-of-war.org/ deathc...thculture2.html
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http://masters-of-war.org/ aboutt...utthissite.html
Seeing how incredibly uninformed and misinformed so many Americans seem to be, I felt strongly, desperately even, the need to get this this information out to people, to wake them up to this danger, so that we might form some sort of defense against this fast creeping, ever growing threat. And like Bill Moyers, I believe that defense has to begin with information: i.e., the truth. I realize I'm just Some Guy, Joe Average Citizen, with even less credibility than Dick Cheney. You may think I'm overstating, exaggerating, hysterical, even paranoid; but I don't expect you to take my word for it. That's why this introduction, (and this site) is bolstered with quotes and interviews with Smart People, people like Walter Cronkite, Bill Moyers, Kurt Vonnegut, Nelson Mandela and the Mayor of London. People who know a little of what's going on. People who are telling us the danger is real, and it's now. You don't have to take my word for anything. But I hope you'll listen and hear them. Your freedom, and your life, and the lives of your family, and the survival of our democracy, our country, and our planet, depend on it. To continue following them down their path of greed, fear and violence can only ultimately destroy us all, in a vicious downward spiral of endless lies, terrorism and war. Did we learn nothing from the example of Israel and Palestine? Did we learn nothing from Vietnam? Did we learn nothing from Watergate and October Surprise and Iran Contra? Did we learn nothing from the the assisted coups and the collusions with dictators and death squads in South and Central America, whose greatest enemies were true Christians and missionaries? Did we learn nothing from the example of Germany in the 1930's? What have we become? What have we allowed ourselves to become? Caught between the comfort of our delusions and the anxiety of fears stoked by our court-appointed rulers, we have blindly followed them down a dark path, possibly of No Return. With fear as a prod, we're being lured into a monumental quagmire--not just in Iraq--but, likely, a world wide conflagration--as in World War III.

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:20 pm | #

>>>Congressmen Hoodwinked on FISA Vote

New Law has nothing whatsoever to do with terrorists but does have to do with Cheney paranoia.

Cheney forced this law to give him a veil of legal protection against his illegal wiretapping of the entire congress, supreme court, pentagon, all white house staff, and all major DC reporters.

Dick has actually been doing this for 6 years, but now feels the impeachment heat.

He has taken the Kissinger legacy to a whole new level
The paranoid Henry Kissinger intercepted all communications around the Whitehouse and the DC reporters supporting him [a genius in counterespionage and removing the rights of US citizens].

Watch the documentary: The Trial of Henry Kissinger to Learn More
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:18 pm | #

>>>MORE PROOF THE POLLS ARE FIXED
August 05, 2007
Read More: Republicans
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews
New Iowa poll from WP/ABC

As the candidates gather here in Des Moines, there is a new Iowa survey out. The Washington Post/ABC News poll has:

Romney: 26 percent
Giuliani: 14 percent
F. Thompson: 13 percent
McCain: 8 percent
Huckabee: 8 percent
Brownback: 5 percent
Tancredo: 5 percent
T. Thompson: 4 percent
Paul: 2 percent
Hunter: 1 percent

As Dan Balz and Jon Cohen write of the unenthused voters sampled, Iowa Republicans "appear to be a microcosm of GOP sentiment across the country and point to a wide-open battle for the nomination.'
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Where/How/Who did this poll?

Who approved it?

Where is the raw data?

Who are the people?

What are their conflicts of interest?

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These polls are such fucking bullshit, how is anyone giving them any credibility whatsoever?

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:07 pm | #

Early ABC News Polls Shows Ron Paul Wins Debate With 58%
http://www.presidentpolls2008.co...ews- debate.html
We barely even talk about Ron Paul on this website because of his low national poll numbers. But if the ABC News straw poll results are any indication of popularized widespread support, then Ron Paul deserves to be discussed in the same light as Romney and Giuliani.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:39 pm | #

Now that the debate's over, it's time to consider the winners and losers.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/D...opup? id=3436820
Who do you think won the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

6,397

Mitt Romney
1,151

Mike Huckabee
1,039

Rudy Giuliani
919

Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
676

Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
524

Tom Tancredo
273

John McCain
226

Duncan Hunter
110

Tommy Thompson
67

Sam Brownback
63
Total Vote: 11,445
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:38 pm | #

Congressman David Dreier (R): Gay & Ashamed

http://www.larryflynt.com/notebo...ebook.php? id=88
Assured that local reporters would guard his secret, Dreier has amassed an antigay voting record so egregious that it has helped him garner a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Apparently the evangelical group failed to notice that Dreier ’s roommate and constant companion is none other than Brad W. Smith, his "chief of staff".
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Last one had the wrong link...oops
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:33 pm | #

Congressman David Dreier (R): Gay & Ashamed
http://schreinervideo.blogspot.c...trage- bush.html
Assured that local reporters would guard his secret, Dreier has amassed an antigay voting record so egregious that it has helped him garner a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Apparently the evangelical group failed to notice that Dreier ’s roommate and constant companion is none other than Brad W. Smith, his "chief of staff".
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:30 pm | #

You Choose '08 Spotlight: Ron Paul on Civil Liberties
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h? v=SEUwaNioAvo
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:27 pm | #

>>>>>>Ron Paul at debate on ABC
2 min - Aug 5, 2007
First 2 segments on ABC debate with George Stephanopoulos...Ron Paul ABC stephanopoulos debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=NKNaFGDuuUg
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Rudy Has No Clue About Health Care 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?v=9qVrokl3- 2I
Rudy Lies About His Second Amendment And Pro Life Stand 52 sec - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h? v=YJfbQh547o4
Gov. Romney: Is Clueless About Military [Ron Paul has most active duty supporters], Economy [He inherits $300 million, how does he know?], and Family [Separates children from families in African juevenille rape rooms] 59 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h? v=vvtJDBnm0O4
Gov. Romney: My Biggest Mistake Was Thinking People Won't See What A Fraud I Am 23 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=H0te3KeuZaU
Gov. Romney: I Think The President Has Kept Us Safe Because I Do Not Read The Intelligence Reports 32 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eqbx7vk1MQg
Gov. Romney: Fix It First So I Can Break Something New 53 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=u44cnqqqdS4
Gov. Romney: I Think Pakistan Is A Moderate Muslim State 2 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (4 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h? v=tXeclPzdlno
Gov. Romney: I Will Continue To Believe In Outlandish Conspiracy Theories About Radical Jihad As An Excuse To Nuke The Middle East And Lock Up American Citizens 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (3 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eYZHITSAdWM
Gov. Romney: I Am Financially Personally Responsible For My Healthcare As I Have $300 Million 1 min - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h? v=WnX5ZsmRgT8
Gov. Romney: We Need A Surge of Support For Me That Is Why I Purchase Poll Results Like the One In Iowa 38 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (2 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h? v=2e9rKP0Ssqk
Gov. Romney On Sen. Obama: Jane Fonda To Doctor Strangelove Is The Extent Of My Simple Mind, Proving I cannot Tackle Complex Issues 37 sec - Aug 5, 2007 - (5 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h? v=z80ss1F6FV8
Gov Romney Backpeddles On Sen. Brownback's Factual Statements 4 min - Aug 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FPboc61AZes
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:21 pm | #

Now that the debate's over, it's time to consider the winners and losers.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/D...opup? id=3436820
Who do you think won the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

4,242

Mike Huckabee
762

Mitt Romney
748

Rudy Giuliani
532

Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
438

Tom Tancredo
218

John McCain
170

Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
169

Duncan Hunter
61

Tommy Thompson
50

Sam Brownback
30
Total Vote: 7,420
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:44 pm | #

Freedom of Information Reform Bill Passes Senate
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/new...70804/ index.htm
The Senate yesterday joined the House in passing bipartisan legislation that will fix problems with the U.S. Freedom of Information Act that were identified in six government-wide audits of FOIA practice. The legislation, authored by Sen. Patrick Leahy and Sen. John Cornyn, overcame a hold placed by Sen. Jon Kyl on behalf of the Justice Department.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:43 pm | #

Clinton: "Yes I Will" Continue To Accept Lobbyists' Money
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 20...on_n_59165.html
Lobbyists, Clinton argued, "represent real Americans."
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:41 pm | #

The Politico Panders to Clinton: Hillary booed (but only twice)
http://www.politico.com/news/sto.../0807/ 5250.html
Simon v. Smith: Simon says Hillary performed well before a potentially hostile crowd at the YearlyKos Convention. But Smith says she bombed the debate with strange comments about lobbyists. With No apology for Soros, Planned Parenthood, Kos attempts to defame the troops, ... Politico would like to be the penultimate liberal left progressive rag.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:39 pm | #

Now that the debate's over, it's time to consider the winners and losers.

Who do you think won the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

3,963

Mike Huckabee
712

Mitt Romney
695

Rudy Giuliani
487

Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
417

Tom Tancredo
209

John McCain
160

Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
142

Duncan Hunter
56

Tommy Thompson
47

Sam Brownback
28
Total Vote: 6,916
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:38 pm | #

There is something fundamentally wrong here.
by Kagro X
Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 07:56:03 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/4/102447/ 5427
The Congress is at the threshold of a major capitulation on FISA. There's no doubt that there are a lot of political (read: electoral) implications to this vote. We all know that. We've been through this fear mongering routine before, where the public is rattled by vague pronouncements about unspecified threats (or about whatever's going on in Michael Chertoff's "gut," as the case may be), and where Members of Congress are cowed by the prospect of Republican attack ads claiming they're "weak on terror."

And of course, at this point it should go without saying that if a bill is placed before you that addresses additional powers and authority for the Attorney General, of all people, this is a full stop moment.

The vote on this bill is no. The vote on any bill expanding the powers of this Attorney General is no.

These are things I should not have to outline for anyone at this point. Certainly not Daily Kos readers. But you'd hope Members of Congress, too. But apparently, in that hope you'd be disappointed.

Still, these are merely the surface issues. There's something deeper and even more troubling going on here. What's happening here is the ceding of the last remaining prerogatives of the legislative branch to the executive. We are currently watching the Congress cede its oversight authority -- not its ability to hold hearings, but its ability to make hearings mean something. We may be watching the Congress cede its "power of the purse," as George W. Bush now threatens to veto any appropriations bill that does not match the numbers in his budget. (You need to know that the president's budget has almost never been the working model for Congress. The traditional reaction to the president's budget, no matter whose it is or even who's reacting, has been that it's "dead on arrival.") Now we are watching the Congress cede even its legislative powers, reacting to Bush's threat to keep them in session until they pass the exact FISA legislation he demands.

Does this comport with any American's concept of the basic functions of the different branches of our government? Since when does the president dictate the terms of legislation... to legislators?

Since they started rolling over for it, that's when.

This is a fundamental failure not just of politics, but of the framework envisioned by the Founders, who felt sure that the immutable precepts of self-interest would be the engine that drove the checks and balances that protect our freedoms and forestall the creep of tyranny. While the political motives of elected officials were always open to question, it was beyond doubt that personal ambition and the jealous guarding of power would be all the motivation necessary to keep any branch from ceding its powers to another.

That this could ever turn out not to be the case is simply astounding, and it is a measure of just how much damage the George W. Bush "administration" has inflicted on our Constitution. While we are all too well aware of the political constraints involved in remedying the situation, the fact is that his continuance in office endangers the future of our system of government as every one of you have understood it to date.

Have a nice recess.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:37 pm | #

NYT: "Waiting for the Truth on Corporal Tillman"
by MissLaura
Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 06:01:31 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/4/205622/ 4708
A New York Times editorial reminds us (as if we needed reminding) what we're still waiting for in the investigation into Pat Tillman's death:

Meanwhile, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and three senior generals testified that they knew of no cover-up at the Pentagon or the White House. The bungling and misrepresentations might well have been the Army’s sole doing. Yet the White House could ease doubts by granting the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee full access to key personnel and documents.

The committee has already learned that, immediately after Corporal Tillman’s death, at least 97 White House officials exchanged hundreds of e-mails about how the White House should respond. Yet weeks later, when the truth came out, there was nary an e-mail peep about the astonishing change. Is that because officials had lost interest? Or have embarrassing e-mails been withheld from Congressional scrutiny? The committee needs to find out.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:35 pm | #

Stop Being Characters in Their Story
by Devilstower
Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 06:24:08 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/4/18052/ 95943
I've done 107 hours in the office so far this week -- it can be done, especially if you start the week with a 43 hour meal and sleep free marathon. This comes at the end of an 18 month project where 80 hour weeks have been common. So if the folks camped out in Congress are tired after working a longer than normal session, they have my sympathy. What they don't have is a pass to sign anything that will get them out of town.

They certainly can't blame exhaustion for this.

Under pressure from President Bush, House Democrats on Saturday grudgingly prepared to move ahead with approving changes in a terrorist surveillance program despite serious reservations about the scope of the measure.

With time running out before a scheduled monthlong break and the Senate already in recess, House Democrats confronted the choice of accepting the administration’s bill or letting it die. If it died, that would leave Democratic lawmakers, who have long been anxious about appearing weak on national security issues, facing an August fending off charges from Mr. Bush and Republicans that they left Americans exposed to terror threats.

If time is running out on the session, then let it run out. There's no deadline for making the right decision, and no doubt that handing additional powers over to Bush and Gonzales is the wrong decision.

Why would Democrats agree to something they certainly know is a mistake?

There was no indication that lawmakers were responding to new intelligence warnings. Rather, Democrats were responding to administration pleas that a recent secret court ruling had created a legal obstacle in monitoring foreign communications relayed over the Internet. They also appeared worried about the political repercussions of being perceived as interfering with intelligence gathering. But the disputes were significant enough that they were likely to resurface before the end of the year.

Here's a question for Congress: what do you think you're buying?

Sure, at the moment Republicans are accusing Nancy Pelosi of stalling, and CNN is all too happy to quote unnamed officials saying that FISA -- FISA that's been bent and twisted at every whim of the administration -- is still not beaten down so much as top be as worthless as they want.

If you should pony up our rights -- our rights -- as the price of buying the favor of a man at 26% in the polls, what do you think you're going to get for that price? Do you really expect the Republicans to shut up about this issue? Do you expect Fox News to run a streamer saying "Democrats fight terrorists!" and Bill O'Reilly to give you a round of applause?

You're not going to get that. If you fold, Fox News is going to call you weak, and your Republican colleagues are going to go home and brag about how they rolled you. Oh, and they're still going to shout to the heavens that terrorists would be running down every main street in America, if they hadn't made the Democrats knuckle under.

Stop worrying about what Republicans are going to say. Stop worrying about what Rush, and Bill, and Sean, and the Fox morning chorus is going to say. Stop being side characters in the epic tragedy that Bush is enacting on our nation and world.

Write your own story. Stop trying to apply political calculus to what should be the easiest decision that's come before the House this year.

And if you're tired, go home. That's what I'm about to do.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:35 pm | #

Now that the debate's over, it's time to consider the winners and losers.

Who do you think won the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

3,309

Mike Huckabee
589

Mitt Romney
553

Rudy Giuliani
416

Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
346

Tom Tancredo
179

John McCain
133

Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
111

Duncan Hunter
47

Tommy Thompson
36

Sam Brownback
26
Total Vote: 5,745
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:24 pm | #

41 House Dems Tremble Before the Mighty Bush
by Meteor Blades
Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 09:19:43 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/5/01943/ 25391
Of the 41 House Democrats who voted today to roll over on the eavesdropping amendment that the White House demanded be added to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, 26 30 were Blue Dogs. The bill, Orwellianly named the Protect America Act, passed 227-183, with 181 Democrats and two Republicans opposed.

These are the Dems who ... failed us. Who failed our country.

Jason Altmire (4th Pennsylvania)
John Barrow (12th Georgia) Blue Dog
Melissa Bean (8th Illinois) Blue Dog
Dan Boren (2nd Oklahoma) Blue Dog
Leonard Boswell (3rd Iowa)
Allen Boyd (2nd Florida) Blue Dog
Christopher Carney (10th Pennsylvania) Blue Dog
Ben Chandler (6th Kentucky) Blue Dog
Rep. Jim Cooper (5th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Jim Costa (20th California) Blue Dog
Bud Cramer (5th Alabama) Blue Dog
Henry Cuellar (28th Texas)
Artur Davis (7th Alabama)
Lincoln Davis (4th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Joe Donnelly (2nd Indiana) Blue Dog
Chet Edwards (17th Texas)
Brad Ellsworth (8th Indiana) Blue Dog
Bob Etheridge (North Carolina)
Bart Gordon (6th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (South Dakota) Blue Dog
Brian Higgins (27th New York)
Baron Hill (9th Indiana) Blue Dog
Nick Lampson (23rd Texas) Blue Dog
Daniel Lipinski (3rd Illinois)
Jim Marshall (8th Georgia) Blue Dog
Jim Matheson (2nd Utah) Blue Dog
Mike McIntyre (7th North Carolina) Blue Dog
Charlie Melancon (3rd Louisiana) Blue Dog
Harry Mitchell (5th Arizona)
Colin Peterson (7th Minnesota) Blue Dog
Earl Pomeroy (North Dakota) Blue Dog
Ciro Rodriguez (23rd Texas) Blue Dog
Mike Ross (4th Arkansas) Blue Dog
John Salazar (3rd Colorado) Blue Dog
Heath Shuler (11th North Carolina) Blue Dog
Vic Snyder (2nd Arkansas)
Zachary Space (18th Ohio) Blue Dog
John Tanner (8th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Gene Taylor (4th Mississippi) Blue Dog
Timothy Walz (1st Minnesota)
Charles A. Wilson (6th Ohio) Blue Dog
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:23 pm | #

BREAKING from YearlyKos: TN Representative Signs off on Cheney Impeachment
by advisorjim
Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 08:12:59 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/4/231132/ 4180
Greetings from YearlyKos, and my profound apologies for my 3-month absence. And apologies for using the "BREAKING" header. Never did like that attention grabber...but this is worth it!
advisorjim's diary :: ::

Congressman Steve Cohen (D-TN) tonight has added his name to House Resolution 333 – The resolution to begin the impeachment of Dick Cheney. Stephen Tapp, who is Congressman Cohen’s surrogate here at YearlyKos, gave me permission to break the story. Guys, when Tennessee signs off on an impeachment resolution, this thing is getting serious!

There are so few politicians in Tennessee that I can wholeheartedly endorse without equivocation. In fact, Steve is the only one. Please join me in congratulating Steve Cohen for his courageous and patriotic act!
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:22 pm | #

Webb issues statement on FISA Vote
by indy2dem
Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 04:00:05 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/4/18227/ 61461
This comes from RaisingKaine.com
http://www.raisingkaine.com/...

Webb indicates that his vote was due to a threat:

Yesterday I supported two measures to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. These measures were considered against the backdrop of heightened concerns from our nation's intelligence community abut the threat of international terrorism.

He goes on to say who influenced his vote:

This distinction and the threats to national security were stated clearly by Admiral McConnell as well as four of the eight Democratic members of the Senate Intelligence Committee. These members, Senators Feinstein, Mikulski, Bayh, and Bill Nelson

And then points to the need to secure our liberties:

We must do so in a way that safeguards basic civil and constitutional rights.
indy2dem's diary :: ::

As someone who supported Jim Webb's campaign, I must say I don't buy it.

What of the others who did not vote to give Bush even more authority to spy on American citizens? Did they not believe these people Webb believes? Were they not told of the threat? Did they know and just didn't care, or did they put freedom ahead of safety?

As to Webb, how he could vote for this and even mention offhandedly safeguarding our rights makes me question his judgement and/or motives.

So to conclude my first diary on DKOS, I'd like to hear from the Senators who voted against this and ask, if Webb is correct, why they chose to vote differently. Short of that I am still left questioning how our Senators could support Bush on eroding what little liberty we still have.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:22 pm | #

No to any Senator for President!
by Arun
Sun Aug 05, 2007 at 09:09:11 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...8/5/115116/ 0132
Among the list of Democratic Candidates for President are Senators

Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton
Christopher Dodd
Barack Obama.

I think we can safely say that none of them qualifies for President.
Arun's diary :: ::

Yes, each of them voted against the legislative abomination amending FISA that "eviscerates the Fourth Amendment". So nice of them!

But none of them showed **any** Presidential qualities of leadership in this shameful cave-in.

I will not, and you should not, vote for anyone who cannot energize their Democratic colleagues ***already elected*** and in Congress and Senate to stand up for the Constitution and to this eminently impeachable and most- or second-most unpopular President ever.

I agree it would have likely been a fight against the odds. It is difficult for even the bestest of Presidential candidates to infuse spine into Bluedog Jellyfish.

But The Candidates had a chance to show their mettle and they flubbed the test. Of what use is such a President(ial Candidate) to us, whose party controls both Senate and Congress, and still gets rolled?

If the Daily Kos community doesn't attempt to sink these candidacies in short order (because these candidates are "electable" or because of the delusion that these candidates will effect progressive change in America), then the Daily Kos community is playing exactly the same craven politics that the Democrats played in the House and Senate, which is yield now, the fight is one Friedman Unit away.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:21 pm | #

Now that the debate's over, it's time to consider the winners and losers.

Who do you think won the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

2,982

Mike Huckabee
511

Mitt Romney
504

Rudy Giuliani
389

Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
318

Tom Tancredo
171

John McCain
125

Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
103

Duncan Hunter
44

Tommy Thompson
35

Sam Brownback
20
Total Vote: 5,202
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:14 pm | #

With nine candidates, it's a crowded field for the Republican presidential nomination. And that doesn't even include two of the biggest names -- Newt Gingrich and Fred Thompson -- who have yet to declare their intentions.

Who do you think will win the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

2,453

Mike Huckabee
351

Mitt Romney
307

Rudy Giuliani
208

No one. I'm voting Democratic
146

John McCain
64

Duncan Hunter
55

I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich
44

Tom Tancredo
37

Tommy Thompson
21

Sam Brownback
13
Total Vote: 3,699
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:14 pm | #

>>>>LINCOLN ASSASSINATED FOR PREVENTING A FEDERAL RESERVE

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:12 pm | #

>>>>JFK KILLED FOR ABOLISHING FEDERAL RESERVE

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:08 pm | #

Oh, I liked how gooliani said as president he would do more of what he did as Governor.

That's a scary thought.
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 12:07 pm | #

Dash, Ron Paul only has 2300 out of 3600 votes, I geuss he's not a viable candidate.
Asshole Gooliani had more time than any one, I think he's the best

Shill.........
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 12:06 pm | #

rp only got 3 question-one was "what was your biggest mistake"
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:56 am | #

With nine candidates, it's a crowded field for the Republican presidential nomination. And that doesn't even include two of the biggest names -- Newt Gingrich and Fred Thompson -- who have yet to declare their intentions.

Who do you think will win the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

2,350

Mike Huckabee
344

Mitt Romney
305

Rudy Giuliani
203

No one. I'm voting Democratic
142

John McCain
64

Duncan Hunter
52

I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich
43

Tom Tancredo
37

Tommy Thompson
21

Sam Brownback
13
Total Vote: 3,574
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:53 am | #

Now that the debate's over, it's time to consider the winners and losers.

Who do you think won the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

1,453

Mitt Romney
215

Mike Huckabee
178

Rudy Giuliani
173

Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
170

Tom Tancredo
90

John McCain
64

Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
43

Tommy Thompson
19

Duncan Hunter
17

Sam Brownback
9
Total Vote: 2,431
_____________________________

fucking morons-"now that the debate is over"
_______________________________
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:41 am | #

With nine candidates, it's a crowded field for the Republican presidential nomination. And that doesn't even include two of the biggest names -- Newt Gingrich and Fred Thompson -- who have yet to declare their intentions.

Who do you think will win the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

2,316

Mike Huckabee
342

Mitt Romney
305

Rudy Giuliani
203

No one. I'm voting Democratic
140

John McCain
64

Duncan Hunter
51

I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich
43

Tom Tancredo
36

Tommy Thompson
21

Sam Brownback
13
Total Vote: 3,534
Not a scientific survey.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:39 am | #

Sorry, make that 1100 out of 1800 votes.......
scared ya, huh?
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 11:37 am | #

Go here to vote on who won the debate:
http://abcnews.go.com/
Ron Paul has over 100 out of 1800 votes.
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 11:36 am | #

With nine candidates, it's a crowded field for the Republican presidential nomination. And that doesn't even include two of the biggest names -- Newt Gingrich and Fred Thompson -- who have yet to declare their intentions.

Who do you think will win the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

2,297

Mike Huckabee
342

Mitt Romney
304

Rudy Giuliani
203

No one. I'm voting Democratic
140

John McCain
64

Duncan Hunter
51

I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich
43

Tom Tancredo
36

Tommy Thompson
21

Sam Brownback
13
Total Vote: 3,514
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:36 am | #

With nine candidates, it's a crowded field for the Republican presidential nomination. And that doesn't even include two of the biggest names -- Newt Gingrich and Fred Thompson -- who have yet to declare their intentions.

Who do you think will win the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

2,277

Mike Huckabee
342

Mitt Romney
303

Rudy Giuliani
201

No one. I'm voting Democratic
140

John McCain
64

Duncan Hunter
49

I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich
43

Tom Tancredo
36

Tommy Thompson
20

Sam Brownback
13
Total Vote: 3,488
Not a scientific survey.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:35 am | #

With nine candidates, it's a crowded field for the Republican presidential nomination. And that doesn't even include two of the biggest names -- Newt Gingrich and Fred Thompson -- who have yet to declare their intentions.

Who do you think will win the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

2,235

Mike Huckabee
340

Mitt Romney
302

Rudy Giuliani
201

No one. I'm voting Democratic
136

John McCain
62

Duncan Hunter
48

I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich
43

Tom Tancredo
36

Tommy Thompson
19

Sam Brownback
13
Total Vote: 3,435
_____________________________
THEY ARE LOWERING RON PAULS VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:33 am | #

Ron Paul

2,252

Mike Huckabee
340

Mitt Romney
302

Rudy Giuliani
201

No one. I'm voting Democratic
139

John McCain
62

Duncan Hunter
49

I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich
43

Tom Tancredo
36

Tommy Thompson
19

Sam Brownback
13
Total Vote: 3,456
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:31 am | #

Ron Paul

2,252
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:31 am | #

MEDIA MANIPULATION...THE QUESTION AND THE CHOICES

With nine candidates, it's a crowded field for the Republican presidential nomination. And that doesn't even include two of the biggest names -- Newt Gingrich and Fred Thompson -- who have yet to declare their intentions.

Who do you think will win the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

2,246

Mike Huckabee
340

Mitt Romney
302

Rudy Giuliani
201

No one. I'm voting Democratic [do you think Bill Clinton's Boy Toy George Stephafuckolous is biased???]
138

John McCain
62

Duncan Hunter
49

I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich
43

Tom Tancredo
36

Tommy Thompson
19

Sam Brownback
13
Total Vote: 3,449
_______________________________

I have never seen those questions ever in a poll to judge candidates in the middle of a debate, WTF????
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:30 am | #

Ron Paul

2,246

Mike Huckabee
340

Mitt Romney
302

Rudy Giuliani
201

No one. I'm voting Democratic
138

John McCain
62

Duncan Hunter
49

I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich
43

Tom Tancredo
36

Tommy Thompson
19

Sam Brownback
13
Total Vote: 3,449

switching to non-enhanced till the false flag blogger returns
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:27 am | #

ABC: **POLL** Republican Debate in Iowa, Ron Paul Already has Huge Lead
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/D...opup? id=3436272
Here is a direct link to ABC's republican debate poll. Already Ron Paul has a huge lead. I wonder if ABC will whine about Ron Paul spammers? Of course they will!!!
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:23 am | #

GOP Debate: McCain Takes a Swipe at Cheney
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=3955
Politico.com notes that in response to an internet question about the role of the vice-president, Sen. McCain "revealed his dislike for the current Veep."

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:21 am | #

Iran and Nicaragua in barter deal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...cas/ 6931807.stm
Iran is to help Nicaragua develop its infrastructure in return for farm products, according to a trade deal between the two countries. Under the agreement, Iran will help develop a port and build houses and industrial sites. In return, Nicaragua will export coffee, meat and bananas to Iran.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:21 am | #

Ron Paul Blasts "Unconstitutional, Undeclared Wars" at GOP Debate
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=3958
To cheers from the audience, Ron Paul continues to expand upon his anti-war stance.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:20 am | #

House Passes Bush's FISA Law - American Civil Liberties Destroyed
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...ties-destroyed/
It ’s official, George Bush and Alberto Gonzales now have the legal authority to spy on you and I without a warrant at any time.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:18 am | #

Newly released al Qaeda-produced video: U.S.embassies are our prime targets
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/05...sies/ index.html
U.S. Embassies and American interests "at home and abroad" are prime targets for terrorist attacks, American al Qaeda member Adam Yahiye Gadahn said in a newly released al Qaeda-produced video.

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someone use that software and check it out

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 11:17 am | #

Terrorists, terrorism, terrorists, terrorism
Fuckin Julliani hasn't changed, he's still an idiot parroting the shrub administration.
And that other fuckin idiot to his right, McCain, is also a shrub shill. Moron is almost at the level of bush drunk as far as his speaking ability, or lack thereof.
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 10:57 am | #

Just checked the tube. George Stephanopolis show is on at 9:30 am Sunday. In the Kansas City area local channel 9, ABC
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 10:22 am | #

How scared are the elites of Dr. Ron Paul???

Have you heard anything about today's debate on the Mainstream Media?

Well here is the information that you have to dig for to get:

GOP Debate Reminder - ABC News, Sunday 8/5 Morning
Posted August 3rd, 2007 by manystrom
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/1091
This Sunday, a live 90-minute debate with the Republican Presidential contenders on a special edition of ABC's "This Week With George Stephanopoulos."
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/1091
Check your local listings for the exact time. Tune in, and tell your friends to listen to Ron Paul!!!
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Hi, what time is the debate
On August 5th, 2007 Allerious says:

Hi, what time is the debate please?
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Debate time.
On August 5th, 2007 Give Me Freedom says:

The debate starts at 9:00 am central time.
10:00 am eastern time
8:00 am mountain time
7:00 am western time
And does anybody relize how important this debate is compared to the others. With the other debates there was a big precentage of senior citizens who did not get to see them because they were on cable tv, alot of seniors do not have cable. If you think about it there is alot of old school conservatives who don't have cable in Iowa (alot of these people are Barry Goldwater conservatives)
Give Me Freedom
UPDATE: Starts at 10:30 AM EST

They are so scared, they keep changing it, tune into ABC ASAP!!!

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 10:04 am | #

Huffington Post Blogger who is Live Blogging ABC Debate Loves Ron Paul

RACHEL: Honestly, I think Ron Paul is the one to watch these days. The line between the Internet and the so-called "real" world blurs more every day, and he is a juggernaut there.

RACHEL: But an Obama swipe'll work every time! They appreciated the Jane Fonda-Dr. Strangelove comment. Romney clearly had that one in the bank (or, er, on top of the car). Meanwhile, I reiterate my comment re: Ron Paul above.

RACHEL: And that worked out great! Okay, back to the matter at hand: I find Mike Huckabee very likeable. Though he's no Ron Paul.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:59 am | #

The Democratic-led U.S. Senate, amid warnings of further attacks on the United States, approved a bill on Friday that would allow President George W. Bush to maintain his controversial domestic spying program
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Should read: The Democrat led U.S. Senate, amid warnings that they will not be allowed August recess.....
kells | 08.05.07 - 9:40 am | #

Piece of hidden information I found interesting:
http://www.npr.org/templates/ sto...toryId=12274886
Paul returned to the House in 1996, when he beat Rep. Greg Laughlin, a Democrat-turned-Republican, in the GOP primary runoff. Though Tom DeLay used his redistricting plan to weaken Paul's hold on the 14th District, Paul won re-election last year, with 78 percent of the vote.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 9:36 am | #

>>MEDIA BULLSHIT ALERT: MEXICO SAYS BORDER FENCE MAY CAUSE HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND KILL CAYOTES

coyote's are the pricks that charge an arm and a leg to bring illegals across the border, if a fence kills em fine by me! lol
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 9:23 am | #

>>MEDIA BULLSHIT ALERT: MEXICO SAYS BORDER FENCE MAY CAUSE HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND KILL CAYOTES

Mexico seeks changes in U.S. border fence plan to protect migrant ...Mexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the ... The proposed fencing includes at least 370 miles of vehicle barriers and ...
http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/~r/...co- border_N.htm - 36k - Cached - Similar pages

Mexico: Species hurt by U.S. border fence - Environment - MSNBC.comMexico seeks changes in U.S. border fence plan to protect migrant species ... Mexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the ...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20052457/ - 58k - Cached - Similar pages

BIOONE Online Journals - The Environmental Impacts of a Border FenceThe Environmental Impacts of a Border Fence. Options: ... and prevent the free movement of wildlife between the United States and Mexico. ...
http://www.bioone.org/perlserv/?....1641% 2FB570116 - Similar pages

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Mexico using enviro tactics against US ...Mexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the fences ... Mexico is right about this issue. The fence is a ridiculous idea and ...
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/...s-border-fence/ - 72k - Cached - Similar pages

Gulfnews: Mexico says US plan to fence off border will adversely ...Mexico says US plan to fence off border will adversely impact migratory species ... Ways of minimising environmental damage from the fences could include ...
http://www.gulfnews.com/world/Me...o/ 10143377.html - 62k - Cached - Similar pages

Mexico says U.S. border fence could hurt migratory animalsMexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the fences ... The environmental report said the 700 miles of fencing could isolate ...
http://www.azcentral.com/news/ar...nce0730- ON.html - 49k - Cached - Similar pages

Mexico wants border fence plan altered - Nation/Politics - The ...The Washington Times Foreign: Mexico wants border fence plan altered. ... Mexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the ...
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Mexico seeks changes in fence plan to protect pronghorns, other ...Mexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the ... Yes, this is an unfortunate side effect of the fence, I agree with that. ...
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Mexico seeks changes in U.S. border fence plan to protect migrant ...Mexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the fences ... The proposed fencing includes at least 370 miles (595 kilometers) of ...
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Mexico may go to international courts to demand environmental ...Mexico may go to international courts to demand environmental impact study on border fence. MEXICO CITY (AP) - The U.S. government's proposed border ...
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 8:57 am | #

http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti...7/ 040807spy.htm

time for whats left of the good cops to ransack congressmen and senators homes for information that labels them domestic enemy terrorists.
Sees Things | 08.05.07 - 8:36 am | #

Jim Cramer flips out over stock market crashing.
http://digg.com/videos/people/ Ji...ps_out_on_MSNBC
Tim | 08.05.07 - 3:57 am | #

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I respect him more and more!
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 5:29 am | #

Well. Another day in the Hinterland.
Going back to bed. Get some sleep Sane
God bless the Patriots.
Henry Bowman | 08.05.07 - 5:28 am | #

constitution is a sodomite
jake | 08.05.07 - 5:20 am | #

U.S. Citizen Whereabouts Unknown After He Was Deported to Tijuana by ICE
http://www.laweekly.com/general/...-tijuana/16817/
A mother ’s search for a son, born in East L.A. but deported by County Sheriffs

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:29 am | #

Child Maltreatment Rises in Homes of Soldiers Sent to War
http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/ 2007...ldierssenttowar
This is sad...A U.S. Army-sponsored study finds that children of enlisted soldiers are more likely to be abused or neglected when a parent is deployed to a combat zone.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:28 am | #

Science Lab Suspected in Foot and Mouth Outbreak
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/ u...ed=networkfront
An accidental leak of an experimental vaccine from a private research site was being investigated urgently last night as the likely source of Britain's new foot and mouth disease outbreak. The news came as the government attempted to avert a full-scale crisis in farming and the tourism industry.

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:19 am | #

Gonzales Now Says Top Aides Got Political Briefings
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? nav=hcmodule
Justice Department officials attended at least a dozen political briefings at the White House since 2001, including some meetings led by Karl Rove, President Bush's chief political adviser, and others that were focused on election trends prior to the 2006 midterm contest, according to documents released yesterday.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:16 am | #

Mutilated Girls; U.K.'s Ignored Secret
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...in3130654.shtml
27 girls in the London borough of Harringey have sought medical treatment after being sexually mutilated. Down the road in Waltham Forest more than 1,000 women, girls and infants have experienced genital mutilation. They say this extreme child abuse is illegal and won't be tolerated, yet it's been illegal since 1985, and no one has been prosecuted
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WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:13 am | #

10 Year Army War Veteran 15 months in PRISON because NO MORE WAR! READ IT
http:// www.informationclearingho...rticle18050.htm
A veteran with ten years of honorable service, who took a stand to no longer participate in an action in which murdering innocents is acceptable is now considered “Dishonorable.” How low do you intend to go, America? Why is this administration still allowed a shred of credibility? Where is your conscience, America?

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:12 am | #

Pat Tillman: Friendly Fire or Assassination?
http://www.sloopo.com/index.php/...tillmans-death/
The story is AP. Will this see the light of day or find its way into the memory hole?
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:11 am | #

What Does it Take to Impeach George Bush
Posted on August 5th, 2007 by DefiantRican
http://www.defiantrican.com/2007...ch-george-bush/
What will it take for this jerk to be impeached! Bill Clinton gets some head under the desk at the Oval Office, and everyone screams and yells and calls for impeachment. Why? So what that he got is rocks off. So what that he lied about it. What is the big deal? Atleast his lie, did not cost thousands of lives. Bush, on the other hand, has lied continuously throughout his presidnecy and nothing is done about it. Weapons of mass destrcution my ass. He used that excuse to try and feel like a man with the most powerful army in the world. He wanted to exercise that power. Look at what it has done. Thousand dead, for what? To save a nickel of a gallon of gas? Not even. Gas prices have never been so high. His presidency is a complete joke. You would think that one should have to atleast be able to spell. He reacts when he wants to react. Hurricane Katrina came and devastated a poverty stricken area of the country and what did he do, he sat there playing golf. it took him over a week to get there. Not only is he worthless, but also a racists. Bridge falls in the middle of an uptown area in Minnesota, Bush is there in a flash. His resume is getting rather impressive:

Homocide, genocide, racism, stupidity, and destroying our civil liberties and rights granted to us by the Constitution. This is the man should be leading our nation? This is a man that should be behind bars. Out of the office. This is a man, who’s family is tied to terrorists, yet he claims to be fighting a war on terror. Wake up America!! We are in the middle of a hostile take over. Bush vs. Clinton for impeachment? Hmmm.. Not a hard question or an answer.
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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:10 am | #

Newt Gingrich: War on Terror is “Phony” and a “stupid way to run a country”
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/node/9139
by Frank J Ranelli | Aug 4 2007- “The Bush administration is waging a ‘phony war’ on terrorism”. America “took on Imperial Japan, Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany” and “beat all three in less than four [years]”, yet somberly, Gingrich staidly pointed out that “we're about to enter the seventh year of this ‘phony war’...and we're losing”.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:09 am | #

Heartbreak: Father Buries Five Murdered Sons
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...e_Murdered_Sons
Mahmud Wagaa al-Juburi (C) grieves the death of his five children in Kirkuk, north of Baghdad, 03 August 2007. First Iraqi police found yesterday an eight-year-old boy weeping among the corpses of his murdered elder brothers. The Wagaa brothers were not soldiers or policemen or even rebel fighters: They worked as painters and decorators on short-term government contracts, first in their hometown of Mosul and then further south in Kirkuk.

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I have no words, we killed over 1 million innocent people just so that Cheney can try out new weapons, steal 1 trillion from our pockets, and develop a more powerful black ops group for fun at home.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:05 am | #

JFO Decries Warrants for Four Journalists
Editors Reportedly Under Fire for Criticizing Nassiriya Police Forces
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...our_Journalists
08/03/2007 4:38 PM ET
Baghdad, Aug 3, (VOI)- The Journalistic Freedom Observatory (JFO) said on Friday that an Iraqi court in the southern city of Nassiriyah issued an arrest warrant against four local journalists, according to a lawsuit submitted by the al-Nassiriyah police department.

"The al-Nassiriyah court of appeal issued an arrest warrant against four journalists, working in Thi Qar province, according to a lawsuit submitted against them by the police department," the JFO said in a statement received by the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).

"The journalists are: Jawad Kadhem Ismail, Ibrahim Abdul Hassan, Adnan al-Fadhli and Latif Ghejeri and all of them are editors working for "summareon.net" website, specialized in the city's news," the statement added.

"The complaint against the journalists has the signature of the chief of the criminal investigation department in Thi Qar," it noted.

The statement said "the problem flared up as "summereon.net" published a complaint presented by a number of local residents of al-Bathaa district in northeastern Nassiriyah, in which they urged the Chief of police General Abdul Hussein al-Safi to be firm in dealing with security issues in the province, making some notes criticizing the police performance."

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 4:02 am | #

Jim Cramer flips out over stock market crashing.
http://digg.com/videos/people/ Ji...ps_out_on_MSNBC
Tim | 08.05.07 - 3:57 am | #

Another record poppy crop in Afghanistan
http://rawstory.com/ showarticle....FD8QQAIM01.html

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Mission Accomplished

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:40 am | #

Past my bedtime. Where DO you guys get the stamina (fixation)?
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:57 am | #
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Where do we get the stamina?????

Survival. We are tired of our babies looking like this:

http://masters-of-war.org/ deathc...thculture2.html

or seeing disclosed videos of the prescott hitler concentration camps-800 on american soil:

>>>>Rex 84: FEMA's Blueprint for Martial Law in America
http://www.sixtysecondape.com/in...id=57& Itemid=41
We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84. The Cheney/Bush administration has a plan which would accommodate the detention of large numbers of American citizens during times of emergency. The plan is called REX 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984. Through Rex-84 an undisclosed number of concentration camps were set in operation throughout the United States, for internment of dissidents and others potentially harmful to the state. The Rex 84 Program was originally established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987

" These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached." And there you have it ~ the real purpose of FEMA is to not only protect the government but to be its principal vehicle for martial law.This is why FEMA could not respond immediately to the Hurricane Katrina disaster ~ humanitarian efforts were no longer part of its job description under the Department of Homeland Security. It appears Hurricane Katrina also provided FEMA with an excuse to “dry run” its unconstitutional powers in New Orleans, rounding up “refugees” (now called “evacuees” and “relocating” them in various camps. “Some evacuees are being treated as ‘internees’ by FEMA,” writes former NSA employee Wayne Madsen. “Reports continue to come into WMR that evacuees from New Orleans and Acadiana [the traditional twenty-two parish Cajun homeland] who have been scattered across the United States are being treated as ‘internees’ and not dislocated American citizens from a catastrophe" We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84.

Be forewarned ~ the Cheney/Bush administration will stop at nothing to preserve their power and their ongoing neocon mis-adventure and they have currently proposed having executive control over all the states National Guard troops in a national emergency. Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa, called the proposal " one step away from a complete takeover of the National Guard, the end of the Guard as a dual-function force that can respond to both state and national needs."The provision was tucked into the House version of the defense bill without notice to the states, something Vilsack said he resented as much as the proposal itself.Under the provision, the president would have authority to take control of the Guard in case of " a serious natural or manmade disaster, accident or catastrophe" in the United States.Do remember, to the Cheney/Bush administration ~ the Mob at the Gates that they truly fear is not terrorists but, instead, the people demanding the truth.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 3:28 am | #

fluid? I am waiting.
no one special | 08.05.07 - 3:18 am | #

Past my bedtime. Where DO you guys get the stamina (fixation)?
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:57 am | #

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Looks like you are still there.... I saw that ROn asked you about what you think regarding the changes made to the constitution...you did not respond. DO you like the way things are?
no one special | 08.05.07 - 3:12 am | #

http://questforfairtrialinconcor...h.blogspot.com/
Remember and support the Brown's.....
no one special | 08.05.07 - 3:07 am | #

You've got to be fucking kidding.

I cannot believe that our/your valuable internet time, while we still have it, is STILL being spent trying and wanting to fuck with the regular bloggers in here. I mean really fuckface, what's your god damn deal asshole?

Tired of jerking your dick off?

Tired of fucking your boyfriend in his dirty asshole?

Tire of sucking your mamas hairy cunt?

So you get your ball off by attemtping to slow down the truth movement? You know what fuck for brains, YOU are nothing but a speck of dust and we ALLLLLLL see right through your crappy ass fucked up games.

Have you not better things to do? More important things to do like shoving your dildo up your tight hairy crusty fucking asshole? Is your dick hard now jerk off, fuck for brains!!

Tell ya what cocksucker, you go right ahead and just try to become a pain in the ass on this one of hundred of blog sites. Cause you know pussyface, the true and honest people who share very important information on here SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOUR BULLSHIT. We all know quite well which are the true words of our bloggers and which ones are the cocksuckers in here like you pussyshit. Just try. Keep it, I encourage you asshole cause your quickly about to find out how easy it is to see right through you immature asshole games.

We know! Your attempt to distract us will never happen as you'll soon see. The information will continue to fly back and forth and there is not a god damn thing YOU can do to prevent our honest blog facts coming forward. Your just a twit, a jerkoff, an asswipe and CLEARLY thee most immature dick for brains EVER on any blog site.

All your showing us is truly how low and sad your boring useless life really is. I feel so sorry for you being such a loser, must be hard to NOT matter.

So you go get your sleep, jerk off your tiny little cock and drain your balls dry of cum juice, then fall fast asleep and please, do come and watch us blog information and pass right over you, never paying you any attention. Please, I encourage you asswipe cause your about to find out how easy it is to cancel out cuntbrains like you OUT.

Now be a good little boy and stroke your dick nice and long, then stick it up your shitty ass, then pull out your sloppy cock and shove it down your throat.

See ya tomorrow asshole, you have sweet dreams.

Night
Constitution | 08.05.07 - 2:59 am | #

You are a sanctimonious cretan
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It's cretin. I'm not being pedantic. I'm just stating this for the record.

Once you've picked up a weapon (that is not a keyboard) and fought a revolution that does not involve your monitor, then I will consider your desperate plight as though you speak from experience and authority. I mean, really, do expect people to sympathise with your desperate revolution when you fight it exlusively in the confines of a message board only during the convenience of after-work hours? The presumption that you can necessarily "know" the horrors of revolution and oppression merely by, what, interviewing actual participants, is pretty arrogant philosophy unto itself.

Be sure, I don't hate you, just your words and beliefs. How many Warsaw ghetto Jews do you think would be allowed to openly post (you're not as anonymous as you may believe) the spurious, unsubstantiated assertions you do, given the internet was as widely proliferated then as it is today?

The honest answer to that question is why I'm pretty sure you champs will never revolt, at least not in the sense implicit in that Thomas Paine quotation below. You don't revolt because, even though you hear Alex say this is a police state on the radio, you don't actually see it in practice. No jackbooted thugs have raided your house, kidnapped your children, stolen your automobile and television. That, ultimately, keeps you from actual revolt. That keeps you on the internet, fearless of persecution. If Alex Jones' interpretation of the world ever materializes, look me up. I'll be the first (and last) person to say "Hey, you guys were right. Let's get these fuckers!" You keep saying 300 million to 10 thousand. Those are impressive odds. Why does a government whom you claim is stealing your life and liberty allow to persist against those odds? Is it because so few have "woken up"? Why haven't they woken up? That's right. Everyone that doesn't subscribe to your philosophy is an easily brainwashed sheep who is stupid and is willing to accept equilibrium as long as they can keep their automobiles. EVERYONE. But I daresay you'll never say that to EVERYONE to their person, but only in the confines of a relatively anonymous message board post; even though your situation is so desperate, so dangerous.

Past my bedtime. Where DO you guys get the stamina (fixation)?
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:57 am | #

Goodnigth to you all. We can all agree on Peace, I hope! If we can all agree on peace he rest will follow!
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 2:55 am | #

Credit to original poster. Keep up the good work.

Good night now.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:26 am | #

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So tell us do you support the changes being made to our government and constitution? What happens if someone else is in the Office of the President? When one who you disagree with weilds the power that has been bestowed upon that Office; what do you do then? If you truly support these changes then I have no argument for you. If you only support the current situation because you benefit or agree witht he ideas/propagnd of the current appointee to the Office, well then I just pity you; things will change you will lose your power/wealth and you will be unhappy.
Either way I pity you.
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 2:49 am | #

What a shameful comparison.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:18 am | #
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You really are in need of some grey matter.

Dude, I have the entire book, it is available here, wtf???

I read it and liked that part. I thought it was fiting. Please share with us your favorite excerpt by Paine.

THOMAS PAINE
COLLECTED AND EDITED BY
MONCURE DANIEL CONWAY
VOLUME II.
1779 1792
XIII.
RIGHTS OF MAN.

http://www.scribd.com/word/downl...5? extension=pdf

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You were just kidding right?

Well everyone should read it, it is pretty cool. He sent it to George Washington [his master-freemasonry shit, before they knew how fucked up it was becoming...the whole master/slave shit defies the rights of men]

anyway check it out...

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:49 am | #

Be sure, I've posted nothing here that did not have the name "fluid" attached. Maybe your (often wrong) presumptions keep you from finding the real truth. Something to think about...
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:30 am | #

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Yeah, I figured that out. You are worse than the other person (falseflag blogger) you are intelligent enough to know better. At least the other person is an average or below intelligence; you on the other hand just have that ego and selfindulgent nature.
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 2:35 am | #

He'd then instruct you to come back when you've fought a real revolution, and then you could compare notes.

What a shameful comparison.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:18 am | #

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I have spoken s from both sides of the Nazi-experience. Both the camp-surrvivors and Hitler Youth conscripts told me to never let the Facist bastards creep into power! You are a sanctimonious cretan
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 2:31 am | #

I also agree with your logic that we should not waste time on you!
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And yet....

Be sure, I've posted nothing here that did not have the name "fluid" attached. Maybe your (often wrong) presumptions keep you from finding the real truth. Something to think about...
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:30 am | #

Although the fact that we are distracting them is a pretty good indication of how pathetically weak their case is. After 5+ years of research they're still pissing around on the web battling debunkers when they should be out peer-reviewing their work and organizing that new investigation they so badly want.

Credit to original poster. Keep up the good work.

Good night now.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:26 am | #

Funny how some message board posters can so distract people from their goal of saving the world.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:21 am | #

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I like the new nick, much better than using mine or sane's. I also agree with your logic that we should not waste time on you!

Peace
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 2:25 am | #

Bush blocks yet more property.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20070802- 1.html
Tim | 08.05.07 - 2:23 am | #

Democrats voting to remove the 4th amendment from the constitution:

Evan Bayh (Indiana);
Tom Carper (Delaware);
Bob Casey (Pennsylvania);
Kent Conrad (North Dakota);
Dianne Feinstein (California);
Daniel Inouye (Hawai‘i);
Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota);
Nancy Mary Landrieu (Louisiana);
Blanche Lincoln (Arkansas);
Claire McCaskill (Missouri);
Barbara Mikulski (Maryland);
Bill Nelson (Florida);
Ben Nelson (Nebraska);
Mark Pryor (Arkansas);
Ken Salazar (Colorado);
Jim Webb (Virginia).
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:19 am | #

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Keep busting their balls sane! The TRUTH will keep us free!
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 2:22 am | #

Iteration for Lord Haw-Haw.

What I find funny is how the twoofers direct so much of their energy at us.

Don't they have a mass murdering government to take down?

Don't they have thousands of engineers to refute?

Don't they have a demolition industry that needs to be set straight on how to spot demolitions?

Funny how some message board posters can so distract people from their goal of saving the world.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:21 am | #

-Thomas Paine
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LOL. You quote Thomas Paine. What a joke. You don't even know when he said that or what he was specifically talking about or who he was addressing (go ahead, Google it, then come back here and impress me with your "knowledge"). It's just a clever quotation which you mistakingly attach to your perceived circumstances.

What you don't know is that Thomas Paine, et. al. would first direct exceedingly disdainful laughter at you, then slap you for being ignorant and stupid. He would then (rightfully) slug you in the gut for being such a thoughtless coward (fighting a revolution from a keyboard and all). Then, if he had known about it, he'd tell you to go talk to a survivor of The Holocaust. He'd appeal to you to tell this survivor about how you suffer so with your houses, and cars, and televisions, and cable, and internet, and grocery stores, and telephones, and keyboards, and your "miraculous" ability to post your (almost) criminal assertions using such keyboards. After you've caught your breath from the survivor slugging you in the gut, he'd implore you to sit down with the survivor, listen, and learn something. If you truly listen (and comprehend), then you'd know, precisely and consicely, what it's like to live in the confines of a "Nazi police state." After all that, Paine would disparage you for choosing to fight your desperate revolution from the safety of your computer chair. He'd then instruct you to come back when you've fought a real revolution, and then you could compare notes.

What a shameful comparison.
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:18 am | #

I'm taking off for now. You know this is the real sane because only the imposter would hang around (fixated) for endless hours and attack me (just watch) after I've left. I'll see you infowarriors tomorrow. Read the last 15-20 of my posts to catch up on the truth.

This is the real sane. More truth to follow.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:04 am | #

It has been thought a considerable advance towards establishing the
principles of Freedom to say that Government is a compact between
those who govern and those who are governed; but this cannot be true,
because it is putting the effect before the cause; for as man must
have existed before governments existed, there necessarily was a time
when governments did not exist, and consequently there could
originally exist no governors to form such a compact with.
The fact therefore must be that the individuals themselves, each in
his own personal and sovereign right, entered into a compact with
each other to produce a government: and this is the only mode in
which governments have a right to arise, and the only principle on
which they have a right to exist.

-Thomas Paine

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 2:02 am | #

In 1910, a group of international bankers secretly met on a small island off the coast of Georgia.
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LOL. If it was secret, how do we know about it, Alex Jones pull-string doll? Why do you think the government admits to and documents all of its abhorable crimes? I mean, if they didn't admit to it or document it, Alex would have no empirical evidence. Quite fortunate for him that they DO admit to and document all of their crimes, n'est-ce pas?

Do you guys share a common brain? Who has it now?
fluid | 08.05.07 - 2:00 am | #

This doctrine can (and too often does) lead to an abashedly embarrassing assault of links.
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Just wanted to highlight this, and iterate the absence of empiricism.

This is the real sane. More truth to follow.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:56 am | #

David Rivera: Final Warning - A History of the New World Order
http://video.google.com/ videopla...202011278978911
In 1910, a group of international bankers secretly met on a small island off the coast of Georgia. Their plan: to formulate a program to destroy the financial structure of America. To do that, they pushed Woodrow Wilson into the presidency; and in 1913, Wilson signed into law, the Federal Reserve Act and the Federal Income Tax. In 1921, these international bankers established the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The U.S. Government took advantage of the CFR's experience in finance and foreign affairs, and one of their study groups, the Advisory Committee on Post-War Foreign Policy, became part of the State Department in 1941. The secret goal of this study group was to condition the Congress, and the people of this country to accept the establishment of the United Nations (UN). The UN, initiated in 1945, does not seek to promote world peace and cooperation- it was the first step towards a one-world government, which is now referred to as the New World Order.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:54 am | #

like these articles that show wazzzzap
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Violation:

2. If it’s on the internet, if must be true.

Of course you’ll sense this in any argument they make, unless that argument counters their unsubstantiated claim/belief. Merely because it’s written by “some guy” and posted on “some website”, must mean it is true if it supports their argument/theory/belief/what Alex said on his last show. This doctrine can (and too often does) lead to an abashedly embarrassing assault of links. These guys are easily recognized as “keyboard commandos” who’ve done absolutely no research that didn’t involve their mouse and computer chair. Creatures of this ilk are often referred to as the anti-empiricists…with good reason.

This is the real sane. More truth to follow.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:53 am | #

http://video.google.com/ videopla...508539586944118
An in-depth analysis of the Carlyle group, and the Military Indutrial Complex they help nurture. Includes interviews with actual founders of Carlyle group

http://video.google.com/ videopla...367484184611493
Witnesses say that when the trucks arrived and soldiers opened the containers, most of the people inside were dead. They also say US Special Forces re-directed the containers carrying the living and dead into the desert and stood by as survivors were shot and buried. Now, up to three thousand bodies lie buried in a mass grave. Outraged human rights groups and lawyers are calling for an investigation but the U.N. special envoy to Afghanistan refuses any U.N.-backed investigation until the Afghan government can protect witnesses. Two of the witnesses in the film have already been killed.

Ted Pike - The Other Israel
http://video.google.com/ videopla...600254881054584
Compiled after 15 months' filming and editing, this fast-moving, professional video documentary will give you a unique education on the inner teachings of Judaism and the talmud. Through the television camera "The Other Israel" takes you where few Christian scholars have gone before.

Republican Paul Findley Dares to Speak Out -- Again ! - AIPAC Exposed
http://video.google.com/ videopla...642434022358005
Paul Findley served on Capitol Hill for 22 years. During this time, he had many encounters with Israel's lobby, which exhibited considerable control over Congressional decisions with respect to Israel and the Mid-East. He speaks of treachery and treason among the highest seats of the land, and how many Congressmen put Israel's interests ahead that of America's.

Brian Springer - Spin
http://video.google.com/ videopla...181953466797353
Using the 1992 presidential election as his springboard, documentary filmmaker Brian Springer captures the behind-the-scenes maneuverings of politicians and newscasters in the early 1990s. Pat Robertson banters about "homos," Al Gore learns how to avoid abortion questions, George Bush talks to Larry King about halcyon -- all presuming they're off camera. Composed of 100% unauthorized satellite footage, Spin is a surreal expose of media-constructed reality. «

Ted Pike - Hate Laws (2 of 2)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...077186980163254
"Anti-hate," hate crimes legislation now before Congress is touted as a sincere attempt to end violent crimes of prejudice. Yet nearly identical laws in Canada and some European countries have led to a virtual ban of public discussion on certain "taboo" topics. Also, public criticism of some "identifiable groups" can be a crime, subject to large fines and years of imprisonment.

In this unprecedented expose, author and filmmaker Ted Pike rips the cover off this little-known conspiracy against freedom by the B'Nai B'Rith and its "Anti-Defamation League." Now is the time to protest to your elected representatives in Congress - before it is too late.

This is part 2 of 2. «
Ted Pike - Hate Laws (1 of 2)
http://video.google.com/ videopla...700265038533779

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:53 am | #

HE SPENT THE LAST 12 HOURS
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Of course, he DOES have the most experience.
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The imposter shall be hereinafter known as William Joyce. No, not the poet who mused about Greek Mythology; that was James Joyce. Not the poet who mused about the wonders of nature, specifically trees; that was Joyce Kilmer. You see, I am talking about Lord Haw-Haw. Our distinguished imposter and William Joyce have many uncanny similarities.

I am the real sane. More truth to follow.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:51 am | #

What I find funny is how the twoofers direct so much of their energy at us.Don't they have a mass murdering government to take down?Don't they have thousands of engineers to refute?Don't they have a demolition industry that needs to be set straight on how to spot demolitions?Funny how some message board posters can so distract people from their goal of saving the world.Wise words from an even wiser gentleman (not me).
fluid | 08.05.07 - 1:40 am | #
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Wow dude, never thought of it that way....man, gotta start smokin ganga again so i can me inteligblectual like u--coool dude wow
thanks also for posting so much trooof urself so that we can all uknow save the world-like these articles that show wazzzzap, sweeeeeeeeeeeeet:

An Immoral Philosophy
http://www.alternet.org/healthwe...wellness/58501/
The New York Times. August 1, 2007.What kind of philosophy says that it's O.K. to subsidize insurance companies, but not to provide health care to children?

Child Suicide No Deterrent for Profit-Hungry Drug Maker
http://www.alternet.org/healthwe...wellness/58483/
CorpWatch. August 1, 2007.GlaxoSmithKline provides research funding to doctors who write favorable opinions of depression drugs for children, despite evidence from clinical trials that the medication can cause anger and even suicide.

Rudy: Worse Than Bush?
http://www.alternet.org/story/58480/
TheNation.com. August 1, 2007.How much worse a president would Rudy Giuliani be than George W. Bush? Novelist Kevin Baker counts the ways.

Why Progressives Are Selling Out To Corporate America
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/57474/
AlterNet. August 1, 2007.An interview with author Daniel Brook offers us answers on why so many progressives get roped into the corporate world.

Can We Pursue Terrorists Without Becoming Like Them?
http://www.alternet.org/audits/56412/
Foreign Policy in Focus. August 1, 2007.From torture to warrantless wiretapping, the Bush administration's approach to terrorism has defied legal standards at all levels.

Iraq Oil Ministry: No Dealing With Unions
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/58491/
UPI. July 31, 2007.Iraq's powerful oil unions have long been a bulwark against privatizing their industry. Now they're being sidelined.

President Richardson or Latino President Richardson?
http://www.alternet.org/columnis...ts/story/58455/
New America Media. July 31, 2007.As Democratic candidates prepare for a televised debate on the largest Spanish language network, Bill Richardson -- the only Latino in the race -- has to walk a thin line to have any hope of getting elected.

Why the Anti-War Movement Doesn't Embrace the Iraqi Resistance: A Response to Cockburn
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/58410/
AlterNet. July 31, 2007.Veteran peace activist Phyllis Bennis responds to Alexander Cockburn's analysis of the anti-war movement in The Nation.

Getting Busted for Pot Can Cost Your Right to Vote
http://www.alternet.org/rights/58346/
In These Times. July 31, 2007.Once you've been arrested for the harsh anti-marijuana laws on the books, you can be denied everything from food stamps to voting rights to the right to adopt a child.

Why Democrats May End Up on the Wrong Side of the Social Security Privatization War
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/58089/
AlterNet. July 31, 2007.The push to cover the planet in trade deals is intended to give foreign investors new "rights." Now these deals are being used to keep failed private retirement systems in corporate hands.

Outsourcing Intelligence: How Bush Gets His National Intelligence from Private Companies
http://www.alternet.org/story/57979/
The Nation. July 31, 2007.Private corporations are now a major staple of national intelligence and are heavily involved in producing the most important and most sensitive national security document -- the President's Daily Brief.

Exposed: The Truth Behind Popular Carbon Offsetting Schemes
http://www.alternet.org/environm...ironment/57976/
Independent UK. July 31, 2007.Academics and environmentalists are questioning the ethics and impact of offsetting -- and suggesting that offsetting schemes have not been as effective as claimed.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:46 am | #

HE SPENT THE LAST 12 HOURS THINKING OF ALL THIS STUFF TO SAY

hahahahahahahahaha

Dude you are so fixated it is incredible

Woweeeeeee

OK, watch this short video to see what is happening
http://nw0.info/files/Documentar...k% 20america.wmv

You still have the wrong homepage dude
POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

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The Real Sane
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Dude, I appreciate all the attention, but wow you really like me - thanks Rich-you da man

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sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:39 am | #

Really dude, it is getting a bit odd that you are so fixated on this board for unexplainable reasons?++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Wow, I just noticed the imposter sane has been posting, almost uninterrupted, for approximately 12 hours. How delightfully whimsical and utterly ridiculous when he talks about principles of fixation. LOL.

The imposter speaks of fixation. Of course, he DOES have the most experience.

This is the real sane. More truth to follow.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:35 am | #

Dude, I am posting truth because the MSM refuses to show the truth.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Alert....error....alert....error....alert....

Violation of StarFleet Civil Code, Section 35, Paragraph 3, part A:

2. If it’s on the internet, if must be true.

Of course you’ll sense this in any argument they make, unless that argument counters their unsubstantiated claim/belief. Merely because it’s written by “some guy” and posted on “some website”, must mean it is true if it supports their argument/theory/belief/what Alex said on his last show. This doctrine can (and too often does) lead to an abashedly embarrassing assault of links. These guys are easily recognized as “keyboard commandos” who’ve done absolutely no research that didn’t involve their mouse and computer chair. Creatures of this ilk are often referred to as the anti-empiricists…with good reason.

Please submit yourself to proper authorities for re-eductation.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:27 am | #

LOL, I dearly wonder what it must've been like the last several hours. The tormentous anticipation. Hoping breathlessly with each click of the refresh button, a post from me.

I am the real sane. More truth to follow.

(That sig is how you'll recognize me from now on as it has become paramount that I distnguish myself from the imposter)

BTW, imposter, you got the homepage wrong again.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:23 am | #

Oh, the roaches are astir from...well, I can't accurately say "slumber" or "time away from computer" now can I?

I am the real sane. More truth to follow. I must have the imposter frightened.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:19 am | #

http://forums.randi.org/showthre...ead.php? t=89069

Hmmm. Now that is an interesting thread.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:16 am | #

False Flag Blogger| Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:09 am | #
False Flag Blogger| Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:01 am | #
False Flag Blogger| Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:56 am | #
False Flag Blogger| Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:49 am | #
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Duh, people look at the words not the nick.

Anyway guess three days now you have been courting me, boy you really care about me huh?

Have you read the stuff yet Rich-could do you good

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The Real Sane
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Read these, for your loved ones at least Rich, will do you good
Dude, I am posting truth because the MSM refuses to show the truth. Exactly what are you doing here posting for 10 straight hours cowardly cloning everyones nick even though it has become obvious what your fake posts are AND LISTENING TO AJ????

Is it possible that you have some issues with fixations? Is there any reason you are so fixated on any poster here ANS AJ????

Please read the following before it is too late, your issues might damage you and the ones you love...for their sake at least read the following:

Dynamic Considerations of the Hysterical Psychosis of fixation. How many escape the demons of their own insecurities...
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/...t/128/6/ 745.pdf - Similar pages

INDIVIDUAL PSYCHOLOGY AND PSYCHOSTS.* By LEONHARD SElF, M. D., When fixation dominates over childhood feelings of inferiority...
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/...nt/84/4/ 639.pdf - Similar pages

Psychological Delusions and the Fixated Patient - (is it Repression, Fixation, or what? ... Why do so many troubled youths focus on so many little escapes...
http://www.apsu.edu/oconnort/ cri...rimtheory05.htm - 34k - Cached - Similar pages

Fixation, Prohibitions of the superego are so strong that the person develops fears/ ... Schizophrenia or other psychosis Mood Anxiety Somatoform Factitious ...
http://faculty.ncwc.edu/TOConnor...8/ 428lect04.htm - 47k - Cached - Similar pages

JSTOR: The Psychoses in the Works of Arthur Schnitzler When fixation and displacement goes progressively toward psychosis - Fixation on the past of seven years' duration...
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici...WO%3E2.0.CO;2- G - Similar pages

link: evil HUMAN DISEMPOWERMENT and THE PROBLEM OF HUMAN ...They develop immature emotional reactions of insecurity - fear and hatred. ... problem of what stands in the way of growth - deception, evasion fixation, regression, ...
http://www.holisticeducator.com/evil.htm - 36k - Cached - Similar pages
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Really dude, it is getting a bit odd that you are so fixated on this board for unexplainable reasons? You do not post truth, you do not answer other's questions with truth, you do not support a constitutional resolution to our current issues.

You just keep being fixated here for no explainable reason. Please read the documents and if you still want to post, fine, but at least check out what might be causeing your obvious odd-behavior.

You don't have to thank me, I just rather not have one more fixated psychotic running around.

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:14 am | #

Anyway, since I've been gone so long, I have a truth treat for everyone. Close your eyes...

http://seoblackhat.com/2007/07/2...ther-interview/

Interviewer: So your position (then we’ll get off this and onto something else) your position then would be that as far as you’re concerned the official story from 9/11 . .. and this is not about the government covering up their mistakes. . . this is about the suggestions from these people who you were talking to in this video that 9/11 was orchestrated by the government: You do not support that theory?

Ron Paul: Absolutely Not!

http://www.civil.northwestern.ed...d%206-22- 07.pdf

http:// www.journalof911studies.c..._2_Greening.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h? v=EkZMQAC95kI

Please do like the imposter sane asks and avail yourself of these links. Much embarrasment and accusation of ignorance and stupidity will you save yourself.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:09 am | #

Wow, I just noticed the imposter sane has been posting, almost uninterrupted, for approximately 12 hours. How delightfully whimsical and utterly ridiculous when he talks about principles of fixation. LOL.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 1:01 am | #

Oops, kind of messed up the text in the last post. I apologize brave inforwarriors. Stay tuned for the continuing series in which I expose these frauds/clumsy thinkers/Alex Jones sheep-bots.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:56 am | #

Ah, I see the imposter has busily and fraudulently taken advantage of my absence...lol. As if he expected me to spend 10+ hours a day on this message board. LOL. I was sure pwned in my absence. Sorry, I just can't help recreating the nostalgic flavor of 10-year-olds in AOL chat rooms. Those were the days, n'est-ce pas? Apparently, some haven't advanced.

But no problem, right infowarriors? We soldier on despite the desperate shill attacks. Due to the shill sane's efforts since I left, I feel I must promulgate truth to undue his purposeful evil and ignorance. Of course, they always attack you the most when you're around the least. That way, they can "pwn" you or "win", like it is some football game.

Thus, I feel it is my civic responsibility to expose these shills for the benefit of the less discriminating thinkers. To that end, I submit to you a guide to recognizing and marginalizing these intellectually deficient sheep.

1. Realize that they are Alex Jones pull-string dolls.

That way, you'll be prepared when bantering with them, having listened to the latest Alex Jones show. It's quite an interesting phenomenon, is it not? Hearing Uncle Alex say it on the radio and seeing it typed all over the internet hours later. Interesting in a very frightening manner, of course. Read the entirety of this thread if you have the time, desire and courage. That will be a demonstrative exercise to that which I speak. However, you must expect the AJ bots to move on to other threads, as Uncle Alex posts them, and abandon whatever Alex doesn't think is "immediately" important. Prepare yourself to deal with that and move from thread to thread.

2. If it’s on the internet, if must be true.

Of course you’ll sense this in any argument they make, unless that argument counters their unsubstantiated claim/belief. Merely because it’s written by “some guy” and posted on “some website”, must mean it is true if it supports their argument/theory/belief/what Alex said on his last show. This doctrine can (and too often does) lead to an abashedly embarrassing assault of links. These guys are easily recognized as “keyboard commandos” who’ve done absolutely no research that didn’t involve their mouse and computer chair. Creatures of this ilk are often referred to as the anti-empiricists…with good reason.

3. To be continued…Each post is limited on key strokes. Anyway, it’ll be fun to take a break and watch the roaches scramble as the light of exposure hits them. Just watch.

This is the real sane, and this is my first post since 4:35 pm. More truth forthcoming infowarriors.

But no problem, right infowarriors? We soldier on despite the desperate shill attacks. Due to the shill sane's efforts since I left, I feel I must promulgate truth to undue his purposeful evil and ignorance. Of course, they always attack you the most when you're around the least. That way, they can "pwn" you or "win", like it is some football game.

Thus, I feel it is my civic responsibility to expose these shills for the less discriminating thinkers. To that end, I submit to you a guide to recognizing and marginalizing these intellectually deficient sheep.

1. Realize that they are Alex Jones pull-string dolls. That way, you'll be prepared when bantering with them having listened to the lasted Alex Jones show. It's quite an interesting phenomenon, is it not? Hearing Uncle Alex say it on the radio and seeing it typed all over the internet hours later. Interesting in a very frightening manner, of course. Read the entirety of this thread if you have the time, desire and courage. That will be a demonstrative exercise to that which I speak. However, you must expect the AJ bots to move on to other threads as Uncle Alex posts them and abandon whatever Alex doesn't think is "immediately" important. Prepare yourself to deal with that.

2.
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:49 am | #

Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota);
Cares more about elites running the world than her bridges

Nancy Mary Landrieu (Louisiana);
Cares more about being nicey nice to big dick than protecting the rights of the dying katrina victims
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:32 am | #

The camp that teaches wealthy kids how to deal with their millions
http://www.latimes.com/news/opin...nday- commentary
Apparently, today's wealthy are so bad at teaching their kids basic social and monetary skills that there are now camps springing up to do just that. From the mechanics of how to buy and sell stocks to how to persuade prospective spouses to sign a prenup.

The low down on who voted to give bush more power. [Wiretapping, etc.]
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/na...html? source=rss
All Republicans voted in favor of the bill. I noticed Mr Vitter was on the list. This is the list of the people who voted for this. By district/name/party

Texas Governor Rick Perry is determined to thwart the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
http://www.wnd.com/news/ article....RTICLE_ID=56304
Texas Governor Rick Perry vetoes hugely popular legislation which would have defended the rights of citizens to keep their property and their homes. Perry prefers big government projects which can grease his own political wheels over the simple dreams of everyday people. Everywhere this man goes he should be hooted with derision. Wake up, sleepers!

JFK Conspirator Wanted Every Kennedy Dead
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...kennedydead.htm
JFK assassination conspirator E. Howard Hunt wanted to "finish the job" by killing Senator Ted Kennedy and greeted news of Robert Kennedys murder with glee, according to his son Saint John Hunt.

Ron Paul’s active service member donations get noticed
http://revolutionradio.org/2007/...ns-get-noticed/
“Funny, that made a big impression in Congress too. Many of my colleagues were amazed and encouraged that you can be against this unconstitutional and disastrous war, and get military support.”
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:30 am | #

Democrats voting to remove the 4th amendment from the constitution:

Evan Bayh (Indiana);
Tom Carper (Delaware);
Bob Casey (Pennsylvania);
Kent Conrad (North Dakota);
Dianne Feinstein (California);
Daniel Inouye (Hawai‘i);
Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota);
Nancy Mary Landrieu (Louisiana);
Blanche Lincoln (Arkansas);
Claire McCaskill (Missouri);
Barbara Mikulski (Maryland);
Bill Nelson (Florida);
Ben Nelson (Nebraska);
Mark Pryor (Arkansas);
Ken Salazar (Colorado);
Jim Webb (Virginia).
sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:19 am | #

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each and everyone is a traitor to the USA.
Ron in LA | 08.05.07 - 12:28 am | #

By the way... I noticed that Sane's homepage is in BOLD font!
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:22 pm | #

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Or at least appeared to be for a time.....
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:29 pm | #

I only do that when a false flag blogger is around, or can do other shit like this:

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The Real Sane
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Anyway the words in the post tell you what is up

False flag blogger has not been here for a while

sane | Homepage | 08.05.07 - 12:08 am | #

By the way. We are not "LIBERALS" Steve. We are "LIBERATED" from the lies and the falsehoods of your false paradigm.
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:53 pm | #

I wish we could have "PEACE".... But we know that "Truth" divides and does not "Unite"....
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:51 pm | #

Sorry Card. That was meant for Steve Miller. I just had to read back a bit.
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:49 pm | #

Peace to you all!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 11:44 pm | #

So I guess we can pretty much expect one "very" soon. Better get out of the stockmarket while you can dumbass. But you probably already know that.
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:39 pm | #

LA and SF are next...I have saying for a year that it would be LA or SF but MC says both a 241
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 11:43 pm | #

The Bush Crime Family Tree

http://www.motherearth.org/bushw...wanted/ laws.php

http:// www.oldamericancentury.or...rime_family.htm

http://www.counterpunch.org/ step...ns05202004.html

http://bushcrimes.net/

http://www.alternet.org/environm...vironment/ 20124
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 11:40 pm | #

BUSH IS THE BEST PRESIDENT EVER!!! YOU SCARED PUSSYFUCKS SHOULD KISS THE GROUND RIGHT NOW KNOWING BUSH IS OUR PRESIDENT!!! LOOK YOU DUMBSHITS HAVE WE HAD ANOTHER ATTACK SINCE 9/11....UHHH....NOOOOO HAVE WE HAD RECORD DOW JONES AVERAGES LATELY YEAHHHH...JUST CRACKED 14000 I'M MAKING LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY IN THIS MARKET. YOU LIBERAL PUSSYFUCKS ARE ALL WORRIED ABOUT YOUR RIGHTS..SHIT GO TO IRAQ AND HAVE A FUCKING "DIALOGUE" WITH THE INSURGENTS SEE IF THEY DON'T SMOKE YOUR LIBERAL PUSSYFUCK ASSESS~ LONG LIVE BUSH AND CHENEY!!!!!

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Hahaha thanks for reminding us what we're fighting. Complete stupidity with no logic or reasoning whatsoever.
Pretty funny though!
card51short | 08.04.07 - 12:33 am | #

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You are going to eat your words "one card short" of a full deck.....

Pretty easy to understand why there hasn't been another 9-11 style event, if you are the only group that really wants one and you stand the most to gain from it. Furthermore, there won't be another one until or unless the elite deem it necessary to get the mindless sheeple into lockstep with their own destruction (ie. the shadowfucks that are the real pussies hiding behind lies, deceit, and all manner of propaganda). So I guess we can pretty much expect one "very" soon. Better get out of the stockmarket while you can dumbass. But you probably already know that.
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:39 pm | #

he is an honest man.
grasshopper | 08.04.07 - 11:30 pm | #

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YES!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 11:33 pm | #

I would like to see RP and DK run independent of the corporate liars know asDems and Repubs
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 11:11 pm | #
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So would I, but he has stated that if he doesnt get it as a Republican, he will not be running as an independent. I tend to take him at his word, he is an honest man.
grasshopper | 08.04.07 - 11:30 pm | #

FISA
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07...7/18/gonzo-nsa/
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12...caught-on-tape/
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 11:29 pm | #

Bottom line is this COINTELPRO. Once you know the truth, and people know you know the truth, then it is hard to pretend you are something you are not, since you are LIARS, and of your Father the Devil. So, conseqeuntly wearing "these" shoes requires having walked the "WALK" before you talk the "TALK".....
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:28 pm | #

I use an Upper case T for Tread. So try again later bud.
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:23 pm | #

By the way... I noticed that Sane's homepage is in BOLD font!
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:22 pm | #

Just in case people want to see what the constitutions says:

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:13 pm | #

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And Bush said:
http://www.comlinks.com/polintel...el/ pi051214.htm
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 11:20 pm | #

You're a sorry excuse for a human being.
Don't tread on Me | 08.04.07 - 4:07 pm | #

I never said that.... Guess that is what I get for not having a "homepage"!

I am flattered though!
Don't Tread On Me | 08.04.07 - 11:18 pm | #

I will call tomorrow.
kells | 08.04.07 - 11:12 pm | #

yes I thought it was a bit late for a call from me (a person he does not really know)
bless you!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 11:15 pm | #

the thought police might hear you sane
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 11:08 pm | #

dude they hear me 24/7

THAT IS WHY I AM SO LOUD

Just in case people want to see what the constitutions says:

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:13 pm | #

I found this on page 40...I think that many of you are more aquainted with GAK than I .......
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:54 pm |
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Thank you, that was great.
I have never spoken to Gabe but if someone doesn't call him and post their findings tonite here,
I will call tomorrow.
kells | 08.04.07 - 11:12 pm | #

It would good if we all did even more to make sure Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination. It is in our best interest to work hard while we can if we expect to keep what little freedom we have left.
grasshopper | 08.04.07 - 11:06 pm | #

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I would like to see RP and DK run independent of the corporate liars know asDems and Repubs
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 11:11 pm | #

the thought police might hear you sane
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 11:08 pm | #

Ron Paul - Statement on new Internet Regulations and Expanded...
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/do...g/ do...ment.php? id=705
Enabling people to be digitally literate for the knowledge economy is important. Rather than enabling the flow of information US centralized government seeks to centrally regulate access to information and monitor usage. Presidential candidate Ron Paul advocates shifting qualified decision making to parents and NOT monitoring internet usage.
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It would good if we all did even more to make sure Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination. It is in our best interest to work hard while we can if we expect to keep what little freedom we have left.
grasshopper | 08.04.07 - 11:06 pm | #

lol dont mention the zionist it`s a no no
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 11:05 pm | #

All the elites get the information on all of us.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:01 pm | #

oh yeah the zionist elites too
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:03 pm | #

Since Congress has the power to impeach, it must be able to root out all wrongdoing in the Executive, and without having the Executive decide which trails of possible wrongdoing Congress may investigate. One thought that this principle of the Executive’s duty to obey the other branches’ valid requests for information, wherever they lead, had been established in U.S. v. Nixon (1974).
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #

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Just that one little bit about enforcing the law.....
We are a nation of laws.....
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 11:02 pm | #

everything in the movie Enemy of the State and now the new Bourne movie has been in place for years but they have not used it fully.

Now according to this anti-constitutional now Gonzo data mining law....

All the digital cable boxes, cell phones, street cameras, street microphones, computer cameras and microphones, public , busines, and private security systems can be taken over by Gonzales to

Gather information on business deals thatt may benefit his friends so that he can give them the information.

Target individuals/whistleblowers that attempt to let the publiv know about CIA rendition flights, torture, halliburton rape rooms, cheney ordered executions, cheney ordered torror attacks anywhere in the world, illegal nuclear trafficking from halliburton to Iran, iraq supplemental money going to al-qaeda, Bush killing a hooker that sued him, clinton killing vince foster, etc.

So who gets control and the contracts:

vatican
AEI
IGI
AIG
Blackwater
NewsCorp
Halliburton
BP
Raytheon
ExxonMobile
LexisNexis
Etc.

All the elites get the information on all of us.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:01 pm | #

Hey doubting Thomas. I put my money where my mouth is.
Gabriel A King
635 n12th st. Apt#1
Spearfish SD, 57783
Phone# 605-645-8705

I found this on page 40...I think that many of you are more aquainted with GAK than I .......
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:54 pm | #

Hey Congress does know about chemtrails.

http://www.stopcovertwar.com/hr2977.html
Sony | 08.04.07 - 9:29 pm |
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great post Sony, thank you.
kells | 08.04.07 - 10:53 pm | #

Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #
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Hey Lars
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:51 pm | #

Here is my old post about how i remember martial law in polland where i grow up it might be of some help to you:

TwentySix years ago, on the morning of December 13, 1981, all of Poland was shocked by the sight of tanks, armored personnel carriers, and police and military units armed with Kalashnikov machine guns patrolling the streets. And quite suddenly, there were no radio or television programs on the air. Instead, TV every half hour broadcast images of Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski, who, sporting his now famous junta-style black glasses, told the country that "our fatherland has found itself on the edge of an abyss" and announced the introduction of martial law.

The highest authority body in the country turned out to be the Jaruzelski-led Military Council of National Salvation (WRON), which was set up shortly after midnight on December 13. The WRON ordered some 10,000 Solidarity activists interned until the council was dissolved in July 1983; more than 3,000 were arrested in the wee hours of the first day of martial law.

The WRON introduced the censorship of correspondence and telephone calls, as well as curfews. Major Polish plants and factories received new managers - military commissars. All the Polish periodicals - apart from the party's two countrywide dailies (Trybuna Ludu and Zolnierz Wolnosci) and 16 regional dailies - were suspended. All the universities were closed and all the students, including this author, were told to go home and watch television for an official announcement on when to return to their studies.

As part of the crackdown, media and educational institutions underwent "verification", a process that tested each employee's attitude towards the regime and Solidarity. More than 2,000 people lost their jobs. Solidarity was banned. Its leaders were arrested overnight. Full censorship and a six-day working week were re-imposed. The coal mines were placed under military control and military courts were established to set long jail sentences for those spreading "false information

The borders were sealed, airports were closed and road access to main cities was restricted. Travel between cities required permission. Curfew was imposed between 10 pm and 6 am. Telephone lines were disconnected. Mail was subject to censorship. All trade union and other independent organizations were de-legalized. All TV and radio transmissions were suspended (except one government TV channel and one government radio station). Public administration, health services, power generation stations, coal mines, sea ports, train stations, and most of the key factories were placed under military management. The employees had to follow military orders or face a court martial. Classes in schools and at universities were suspended.

From the early morning hours the only TV channel and the only radio station transmitted Gen. Jaruzelski's address . The anchors wore military uniforms. Only newspapers controlled by the Communist Party or the military were published.

The Poles actively resisted the Martial Law by organizing strikes and street marches, but any resistance to the Martial Law was brutally crushed. On December 16, 1981 the police killed 9 striking coal miners at the Wujek Coal Mine in Katowice. The Poles continued to oppose the WRON - many Solidarity members worked underground. They established, the so called, Revolutionary Solidarity and were involved in publishing independent newspapers, organization of street protests, broadcasting radio programs usually cut off by the government jammers). Thousands were arrested and prosecuted.

Martial Law was suspended on December 31, 1982 and terminated on July 22, 1983. Many of the restrictive legislation introduced during the martial law remained in force through the end of the eighties. The failure of the WRON and the ruling Communist Party became clear in 1989 when the Solidarity won by a land-slide in the first free election after World War II.
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #

Monsoon floods displace 19 million
http://rawstory.com/showarticle....ap% 2Findex.html
In India and Bangladesh, at least 198 people were killed in recent days.
________________________________

2 mins of coverage on GE/AOL/Disney/News Corp...

They were too busy with the 40 hours x 4 160 hours of straight coverage of the domestic false flag Nafta Bridge destruction.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #

The Myth of 'Executive Privilege'
by Kevin R. C. Gutzman
by Kevin R. C. Gutzman

DIGG THIS

Bush Administration officials have announced that President Bush will use a claim of "Executive Privilege" to thwart congressional investigation into the firings of several U.S. attorneys. This claim is the latest in a long series of unconstitutional invocations of the notion of Executive Privilege by presidents prominent and obscure.

In fact, Executive Privilege is itself a myth unfounded in the language or original understanding of the Constitution. The Constitution was not supposed to give presidents power to withhold information from Congress.

When a president invokes Executive Privilege, he is saying that despite a congressional request for information, or even despite a congressional subpoena, he is not going to let Congress learn what it wants to know. He, in other words, knows better than Congress what matters Congress should investigate.

At root of the error behind this line of thinking is the idea that the president is a competing policy maker with Congress, that the two political branches in some cases may have competing views of policy and that the Executive is then entitled to thwart the fact-finding efforts of the Legislative Branch.

This idea is entirely mistaken. The Executive Branch was intended by the Constitution’s authors and ratifiers to be precisely that – the executor of policies made by Congress, not a competing power center empowered to thwart Congress’s attempts to gain information.

If the Executive can simply refuse to allow Executive Branch personnel to testify before Congress and refuse to pursue congressional contempt referrals, Congress will be altogether unable to perform its legislative functions. It will be subordinate to the Presidency in the way that Parliament was subordinate to English kings before the establishment of Parliament’s unlimited power to investigate in the 17th century.

All of the information-gathering agencies of the federal government, the FBI and CIA, the NIH and Department of Agriculture, the Department of Energy and the Bureau of the Census, fall under the Executive Branch. Can it really be up to the president’s discretion whether government employees assigned the task of performing research of various kinds must divulge information to Congress?

Of course, it is not information resulting from research activities that is at stake in the matter of the firings of U.S. attorneys, but information that may be politically damaging to the Bush Administration. Yet, Congress’s right and need to gather information about possibly improper behavior by Executive Branch officials are even more pressing than its need for those other types of information.

And we know that the draftsmen and ratifiers of the Constitution intended for Congress to be able to call on Executive Branch officials for information at will. In the Philadelphia Convention that drafted the Constitution, the Committee of Detail referred to Congress as the "Grand Inquest of the Nation" – a title used in England at that time to refer to Parliament as the untrammeled investigatory body empowered to impeach misbehaving officers of the Crown.

Since Congress has the power to impeach, it must be able to root out all wrongdoing in the Executive, and without having the Executive decide which trails of possible wrongdoing Congress may investigate. One thought that this principle of the Executive’s duty to obey the other branches’ valid requests for information, wherever they lead, had been established in U.S. v. Nixon (1974).
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #

The first Congress, full of framers and ratifiers of the Constitution, passed legislation requiring the treasury secretary to provide Congress with information "respecting all matters referred to him by the House of Representatives, or which shall appertain to his office." Rep. Elias Boudinot had noted that, "this power is essentially necessary to the Government … it is absolutely so." No one argued to the contrary.

Secretary Alexander Hamilton, a framer, drafted that bill, and he advised President George Washington, also a framer, to sign it. Which he did.

It is true that there were a few instances in the early history of the United States in which presidents refused to supply Congress with information. For the most part, however, the idea of Executive Privilege, like the term itself, is a post-World War II innovation. And certainly no administration has made so sweeping a claim of Executive Privilege as is currently being made by the Bush Administration.

The Legislative Branch is, as James Madison noted, the leading branch in a republican government. It is up to Congress to decide on behalf of the American people what information it needs, what questions Executive officials must answer.

Refusal to comply with valid congressional requests for information is an impeachable offense on the part of any Executive officer who makes the refusal. Before it comes to that, however, Congress can sidestep the administration’s announcement that it will not allow U.S. attorneys to enforce violations of legally valid congressional subpoenas by resuscitating the congressional power to hold individual citizens in contempt.

The issues at stake in this matter are far more significant than the firing of a few U.S. attorneys, or even the fates of the Democratic congressional majority and the Bush Administration. What is at issue is whether Congress will defend itself against a grave threat to its basic power to investigate matters clearly within its legislative cognizance.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.04.07 - 10:47 pm | #

I hope he is not in any trouble.
kells | 08.04.07 - 10:41 pm | #

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I fear for him given his proclivity for the threats of violence.....maybe they came and got him....
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:45 pm | #

i miss gak to. good night guys and once again you dont know how much it means to me to se you here, the picture we are shown of americans here are drulling neocons and i know its not true, good night heroes i honor you all
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:42 pm | #

And Ron, I miss GAK too.
He and baldmenace have disappeared off the board. If anyone has GAKs phone # please give him a call. He posted it enough times , I just took it for granted he'd be around.
I hope he is not in any trouble.
kells | 08.04.07 - 10:41 pm | #

lol i missed your point bro but can you say: rød grød med fløde? rememer ceep it simple my english is rusty but i realy love you guys i know you`re good moral people who loves your country i respect that
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:36 pm | #

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Well you must be in Danemark...or you would not have known that off-the-cuff......just uncanny your similarity to GAK. And no I cannot say it..try as I MIGHT!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:39 pm | #

nah i have been here for some time just changed my nick becouse of the maggot who wass stealing it, but like i said im drunk and i dont want to make more fun of my self tonite.

i was lars, then neo then neo lars now i`m ron puol 2008 the maggot wont steal this nick for some reason
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:39 pm | #

Lars is a good man
kells | 08.04.07 - 10:35 pm | #

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Have you had much contact...he is a new figure to me.
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:37 pm | #

Last week, President Bush remarked how horrified he was at a particular recent car bombing in Iraq. The driver had brought two children along in the back seat to make it easier for him to penetrate security. He then fled, leaving the children to die when the car exploded.

In view of this atrocity, Bush asserted his "resolve to help free Iraq from a society in which people can do that to children." He then offered his military audience a new definition of the situation in Iraq: "It’s not a civil war, it is pure evil. And I believe that we have an obligation to protect ourselves from that evil."

In equating Iraqi society with pure evil, Bush has taken a critical step towards a classic Manichaean confrontation in the Middle East. He ardently wants both to "free Iraq" from its evil society, and to "protect ourselves" from it as well. In order to distract us from his irrational claim, Bush points to the future: "the hard work we're doing today is laying the foundation of peace for generations to come," he told his listeners.

One must take these remarks seriously. They appear on the White House website, so they were not part of an ill-considered off-the-cuff remark; they represent the essence of the president’s sober analysis of the situation in Iraq. As such, they describe an approach so profoundly in error that it can only reap more disaster.
Itsallrite2crynow | 08.04.07 - 10:36 pm | #

Lars is a good man
kells | 08.04.07 - 10:35 pm | #

They have been puting on these Sharespearian tragedies for us to get dramatized with almost daily now.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:32 pm | #

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More like Kabuki!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki

Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:35 pm | #

i know. and i love you guys for having brains anyways like i said i`m drunk and dont make any sence now i`ll go to bed
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:27 pm | #

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Good night then.
BTW what is the name of the dessert that no non-Dansk speaker can pronounce?
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:32 pm | #

Both parties now answer to CFR/Bilderberg who decided to step shit up.

They have been puting on these Sharespearian tragedies for us to get dramatized with almost daily now.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:32 pm | #

I think if we claim to know the truth,we will follow the Prince of peace and seek peaceful means to execute the needed reforms!

hummmm?
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.04.07 - 10:25 pm | #

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I will follow the route of peace as far as I may...when time comes to defend the innocent from the evil I will fight...I will be willing to die for what i believe and i will kill to protect those who cannot defend themselves!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:29 pm | #

i know. and i love you guys for having brains anyways like i said i`m drunk and dont make any sence now i`ll go to bed
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:27 pm | #

i`m sure my friend its lars you can own weapons in demark you just have to go to a shooting range or have a hunting permit and yes i got a dear rifle and a shootgun
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:24 pm | #

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You have a twin in South Dakota!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:26 pm | #

30 min for 72 sen and over 200 reps to burn the constitution.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:20 pm | #

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Same dance they have been doing for a while now! Once Wellstone was killed everyone who had previously stood their ground got suddenly weakened...they took out his whole family...think what you may of GOre I am certain that is why he stood down in the beginning of this BS....he knew they would kill his whole family!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:25 pm | #

i want bush death comme and kidnap me your cowards i`m not afraid of your watherboarding your sissy girls nazi fuckups
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:12 pm | #

Be careful eh,don't be so forward, unless you are a change agent yourself,which would explain your beligerent words!!
Truthers are inherintly anti-death, (except in self defense)
I think if we claim to know the truth,we will follow the Prince of peace and seek peaceful means to execute the needed reforms!

hummmm?
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.04.07 - 10:25 pm | #

no court order needed anymore, full data mining including images from street camera's and the data mining can be offshored to a foreign company like Halliburton or Giza or Hong Kong Bank or the Kremlin or the Vatican
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:23 pm | #

nah im lars im just drunk and pissed and sorry for the us
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:18 pm | #

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Hmmmm, a shotgun in Euorpe is quite a feat. Lot's o' redtape and hunter's training....are you sure it's not you GAK (whom I have noticed to be conspicuously abent lately).....just thinking out loud here. I miss GAK and his take-no-shit-attitude.
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:22 pm | #

the 300 million americans he was tapping for the last 6 years is no longer illegal.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:22 pm | #

anyways i`m going to bed now. i love you guys hope you can save your republic and sorry for my anger sometimes i just cant deal with it
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:21 pm | #

house just passed bush's bill he will sign it tomorrow.

they spent 30 mins debating, that was it, 309 min to get rid of the 4th amendment

30 min for 72 sen and over 200 reps to burn the constitution.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:20 pm | #

nah im lars im just drunk and pissed and sorry for the us
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:18 pm | #

I`m sitting here with my shootgun waiting for you cowards common i got children you can torture
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:14 pm | #

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That must be GAK...?
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 10:16 pm | #

Do you think this weapons are for guys in caves with no electricity or water?????????
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 8:47 pm | #

ummmmm, yes,err, i mean NO, I meaan um I guess, I ,uhh, um,what?
JUST KIDDING,SANE!
That is what they want you to think!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.04.07 - 10:15 pm | #

you can post all that shit but know my friend that america is gone i dont know if you`re ever going to be able to make it what it once was. i can telll you that the dollar is worthless its about halv an euro there is 10 times as many dollars in circulation as america is worth if china says you must pay off your debt in euros you`re fucked you cant pay. america is gone me grownig up in communist polland always looking up to america as the beacon of freedom its all gone now, i still love you guys mostly becouse I`m drunk but damn how culd you people get to this??? and for anny nsa i`m a wuld be terrorist i want to stop the war in iraq and i want bush death comme and kidnap me your cowards i`m not afraid of your watherboarding your sissy girls nazi fuckups
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:12 pm | #
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Drinking an posting can envigorate a movement.

good to see the regular style again GAK

read Sun Tzu to see their tactics
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:15 pm | #

God dammit Alex Jones. What has happened to your site! I know minimum wage has gone up but get some volunteers to work the boards.
pc | 08.04.07 - 10:15 pm | #

I`m sitting here with my shootgun waiting for you cowards common i got children you can torture
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:14 pm | #

II. WAGING WAR
1. Sun Tzu said: In the operations of war, where there are in the field a thousand swift chariots, as many heavy chariots, and a hundred thousand mail-clad soldiers, with provisions enough to carry them a thousand li, the expenditure at home and at the front, including entertainment of guests, small items such as glue and paint, and sums spent on chariots and armor, will reach the total of a thousand ounces of silver per day. Such is the cost of raising an army of 100,000 men.
2. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be damped. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength.
3. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain.
4. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue.
5. Thus, though we have heard of stupid haste in war, cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays.
6. There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.
7. It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on.
8. The skillful soldier does not raise a second levy, neither are his supply-wagons loaded more than twice.
9. Bring war material with you from home, but forage on the enemy. Thus the army will have food enough for its needs.
10. Poverty of the State exchequer causes an army to be maintained by contributions from a distance. Contributing to maintain an army at a distance causes the people to be impoverished.
11. On the other hand, the proximity of an army causes prices to go up; and high prices cause the people's substance to be drained away.
12. When their substance is drained away, the peasantry will be afflicted by heavy exactions.
13,14. With this loss of substance and exhaustion of strength, the homes of the people will be stripped bare, and three-tenths of their income will be dissipated; while government expenses for broken chariots, worn-out horses, breast-plates and helmets, bows and arrows, spears and shields, protective mantles, draught-oxen and heavy wagons, will amount to four-tenths of its total revenue.
15. Hence a wise general makes a point of foraging on the enemy. One cartload of the enemy's provisions is equivalent to twenty of one's own, and likewise a single picul of his provender is equivalent to twenty from one's own store.
16. Now in order to kill the enemy, our men must be roused to anger; that there may be advantage from defeating the enemy, they must have their rewards.
17. Therefore in chariot fighting, when ten or more chariots have been taken, those should be rewarded who took the first. Our own flags should be substituted for those of the enemy, and the chariots mingled and used in conjunction with ours. The captured soldiers should be kindly treated and kept.
18. This is called, using the conquered foe to augment one's own strength.
19. In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.
20. Thus it may be known that the leader of armies is the arbiter of the people's fate, the man on whom it depends whether the nation shall be in peace or in peril.

III. ATTACK BY STRATAGEM
1. Sun Tzu said: In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it, to capture a regiment, a detachment or a company entire than to destroy them.
2. Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
3. Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans; the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces; the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field; and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
4. The rule is, not to besiege walled cities if it can possibly be avoided. The preparation of mantlets, movable shelters, and various implements of war, will take up three whole months; and the piling up of mounds over against the walls will take three months more.
5. The general, unable to control his irritation, will launch his men to the assault like swarming ants, with the result that one-third of his men are slain, while the town still remains untaken. Such are the disastrous effects of a siege.
6. Therefore the skillful leader subdues the enemy's troops without any fighting; he captures their cities without laying siege to them; he overthrows their kingdom without lengthy operations in the field.
7. With his forces intact he will dispute the mastery of the Empire, and thus, without losing a man, his triumph will be complete. This is the method of attacking by stratagem.
8. It is the rule in war, if our forces are ten to the enemy's one, to surround him; if five to one, to attack him; if twice as numerous, to divide our army into two.
9. If equally matched, we can offer battle; if slightly inferior in numbers, we can avoid the enemy; if quite unequal in every way, we can flee from him.
10. Hence, though an obstinate fight may be made by a small force, in the end it must be captured by the larger force.
11. Now the general is the bulwark of the State; if the bulwark is complete at all points; the State will be strong; if the bulwark is defective, the State will be weak.
12. There are three ways in which a ruler can bring misfortune upon his army:--
13. (1) By commanding the army to advance or to retreat, being ignorant of the fact that it cannot obey. This is called hobbling the army.
14. (2) By attempting to govern an army in the same way as he administers a kingdom, being ignorant of the conditions which obtain in an army. This causes restlessness in the soldier's minds.
15. (3) By employing the officers of his army without discrimination, through ignorance of the military principle of adaptation to circumstances. This shakes the confidence of the soldiers.
16. But when the army is restless and distrustful, trouble is sure to come from the other feudal princes. This is simply bringing anarchy into the army, and flinging victory away.
17. Thus we may know that there are five essentials for victory:
(1) He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.
(2) He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces.
(3) He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks.
(4) He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.
(5) He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign.
18. Hence the saying: If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:13 pm | #

Executive Branch.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.04.07 - 8:59 pm
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Omg - nice..
ty ATHF !
kells | 08.04.07 - 10:09 pm | #

Art of War

I. LAYING PLANS
1. Sun Tzu said: The art of war is of vital importance to the State.
2. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected.
3. The art of war, then, is governed by five constant factors, to be taken into account in one's deliberations, when seeking to determine the conditions obtaining in the field.
4. These are: (1) The Moral Law; (2) Heaven; (3) Earth; (4) The Commander; (5) Method and discipline.
5,6. The Moral Law causes the people to be in complete accord with their ruler, so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by any danger.
7. Heaven signifies night and day, cold and heat, times and seasons.
8. Earth comprises distances, great and small; danger and security; open ground and narrow passes; the chances of life and death.
9. The Commander stands for the virtues of wisdom, sincerely, benevolence, courage and strictness.
10. By method and discipline are to be understood the marshaling of the army in its proper subdivisions, the graduations of rank among the officers, the maintenance of roads by which supplies may reach the army, and the control of military expenditure.
11. These five heads should be familiar to every general: he who knows them will be victorious; he who knows them not will fail.
12. Therefore, in your deliberations, when seeking to determine the military conditions, let them be made the basis of a comparison, in this wise:--
13. (1) Which of the two sovereigns is imbued with the Moral law? (2) Which of the two generals has most ability? (3) With whom lie the advantages derived from Heaven and Earth? (4) On which side is discipline most rigorously enforced? (5) Which army is stronger? (6) On which side are officers and men more highly trained? (7) In which army is there the greater constancy both in reward and punishment?
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:03 pm | #

Art of War

13. (1) Which of the two sovereigns is imbued
with the Moral law?
(2) Which of the two generals has most ability?
(3) With whom lie the advantages derived from Heaven
and Earth?
(4) On which side is discipline most rigorously enforced?
(5) Which army is stronger?
(6) On which side are officers and men more highly trained?
(7) In which army is there the greater constancy
both in reward and punishment?

14. By means of these seven considerations I can forecast victory or defeat.

15. The general that hearkens to my counsel and acts upon it, will conquer: let such a one be retained in command! The general that hearkens not to my counsel nor acts upon it, will suffer defeat:--let such a one be dismissed!

16. While heading the profit of my counsel, avail yourself also of any helpful circumstances over and beyond the ordinary rules.

17. According as circumstances are favorable, one should modify one's plans.

18. All warfare is based on deception.

19. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.

20. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.

21. If he is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him.

22. If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.

23. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them.

24. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.

25. These military devices, leading to victory, must not be divulged beforehand.

26. Now the general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple ere the battle is fought. The general who loses a battle makes but few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculationslead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:00 pm | #

i want to rip the maggot apart
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 10:00 pm | #

hi sane welcomme back bro sorry i`m drunk tonite
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 9:59 pm | #

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to [REINSTATE THE PROPER] Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends. We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

— John Hancock
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 9:57 pm | #

oh i se cat got your tounge litle pervert gues you`re busy jerking off to your scatshit porn common magot i know you`re here tell me how i`m a gay
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 9:53 pm | #

common maggot i`m ready for all your bull tonite tell me how ron poul is a traitor your discusting maggot. please påost some more of your scatshit links your litle jerk off
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 9:48 pm | #

where is the litle disinfo maggot I´m drunk and ready to play all night . common maggot tell me how wonderfull uncle bush is
Ron Poul 2008 | 08.04.07 - 9:46 pm | #

Hey Congress does know about chemtrails.

http://www.stopcovertwar.com/hr2977.html
Sony | 08.04.07 - 9:29 pm | #

That my friends is an occupation
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 8:28 pm | #

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After the shit that went on in WWII how can American, Europeans, Russians and/or Jews allow the occupations of Palestine, Iraq, and Afganistan?
Seperate and unequal...this madness must end.

demonstration;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h? v=kuLGR0czTPs

Poem:
http://www.ramallahonline.com/in...=article& sid=26
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Occ...on_of_Palestine
Horror:
http://www.aztlan.net/ iraqichild...ldrenhorror.htm
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 9:09 pm | #

http://bewareofthis.info/
http://nw0.info/?p=Multimedia/
http://nw0.info/?p=Documentaries/
http://nw0.info/?p=eBooks%20and%...0Audio%20Books/
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 9:01 pm | #

Bush Divests the Blame for His Disasters
by Christopher Manion
by Christopher Manion

DIGG THIS

As we observed yesterday, it is most fortunate that George Bush is not the Sun King ("l’etat, c’est moi"), nor is he the Pharaoh, whose every word (Ma’at) was also law. Quite the contrary: Mr. Bush is an elected Constitutional officer and, as such, possesses certain powers, each of them limited, as are all federal Constitutional powers. Of late, many have criticized the president for claiming powers that are not accorded to him by the Constitution. There has been less attention paid, however, to another facet of his approach to power: namely, that, while Mr. Bush has abused some of the powers of the presidency, he has abdicated other central Constitutional powers and delegated them away.

Mr. Bush appears to have dimly recognized (but not publicly acknowledged), the realities that surround him, even as he continues to flail against them. Of late, the vast majority of the American people apparently consider him to be a failure. Unfortunately, instead of confronting this sad fact, he has taken several steps – actually, he has borrowed them from the Marxist dialectic – to make it irrelevant. The most prominent failures commonly attributed to Mr. Bush, you see, are actually somebody else’s fault – every one of them.

For instance, according to the Constitution, the President is the Commander in Chief. However, Mr. Bush has recognized that only a dwindling minority of Americans trust his judgment regarding the Iraq War. So the man who once proclaimed himself to be the "Decider’ has now fobbed off the crucial decisions about his war on General George Petraeus, the commander of U.S. troops there. General Petraeus has been accorded the mantle of legitimacy that Mr. Bush can no longer credibly wear.

As Congress and the American people assail Mr. Bush and insist that the disaster he has wrought in Iraq be ended, Mr. Bush smiles and says, "Let’s wait and see what General Petraeus says." Like Buddha, Mr. Bush peacefully awaits the general’s advice, which should be coming along in several months now.

On the face of it, Mr. Bush’s pretence that he wants to rely on the advice of the "commanders on the ground," is hardly credible: we know that he has blithely ignored them in the past. So what is Mr. Bush really up to? Alas, it is simply a new twist on an old neocon game: shift the blame.

Now it is Petraeus whose word will be the law of the land regarding the war in Iraq – and who will bear the blame for any "defeat." The president has essentially accomplished an illusory abdication of his role as "Commander in Chief" because he knows the people have adjudged him to be a failure in that role.

But that is not all. Sadly, Mr. Bush is also preparing the ground for laying off the blame for his own personal defeat onto the U.S. military. In effect, Mr. Bush’s desire to avoid responsibility results in the pretense that he isn’t calling the shots at all. The ultimate effect is a shabby neocon twist, to be sure, on "The Buck Stops Here" – blame Petraeus.

Mr. Petraeus, brace yourself.

But even that is not all. Mr. Bush has also abdicated to Dick Cheney many of the most essential powers of the Chief Executive – an arrangement that, while it is not strictly unconstitutional, certainly expropriates from the people their Constitutional authority to elect the person who will be president and expect him to fulfill that role.

And what has Mr. Bush been doing in the meantime? Well, while Dick Cheney has been running the country and General Petraeus has been running the war, the president has been meeting with intellectual courtiers with whom he can discuss in leisure his legacy, his place in history. The result? A neocon chorus which now proclaims that, regardless of how present-day Americans condemn this president, future historians, evidently more gifted than today’s peasants, will "vindicate" him.

In essence, Mr. Bush has abdicated the responsibility that he owes the "virtuous people" of the Founders. He has decided that he will answer instead to smarter generations in the far future that will not even exist until long after he is dead.

Note how both Marxist and Darwinian is this magical exoneration: it is Marxist, because "the future" – as yet non-existent and unknowable and unreal – becomes the superior moral standard for the present, conferring on its prophetic advocates today power without any limits. It is Darwinian because "future" generations will be smarter, more progressive, and intellectually superior to our own, and will thus crown Bush with a greatness which our own generation is too dumb, prejudiced, and ignorant to confer upon him.

Of course, Bush expects "history" to confer upon him the sobriquet of a second Churchill, or perhaps a second Lincoln. But just in case, he is rapidly divesting himself of all sorts of responsibilities, lest he be blamed for any disasters. Then, at the very least, he will be remembered as a harmless Bozo that was betrayed by incompetent generals, whose glorious dream was betrayed by people whom he entrusted with great powers and promise and who failed him and the American people.

The neocons recognize the true war: it is the war of power-lust and private agendas against sober reality and the freedoms enjoyed by Americans under the Constitution for hundreds of years. It is that war that the neocons cannot afford to lose. And so, they have arrayed the "Correlation of Forces" (Mao again) so that their failure can be laid off on anyone and everyone else. Fail to stabilize Iraq? Blame Petraeus. Fail to dominate the Middle East? Blame the Defeatocrats. Fail to recognize Bush’s greatness? Blame the benighted, backward people. Disaster today? "Don’t stop thinkin’ about tomorrow!"

Fail everywhere, blame everybody. That is the essence of the Bush charade, and at the heart of his abdication is his decision to allow the neocons, not the President and the Congress, to formulate American foreign policy. Now that their fate is on the line, the neocons preach "patience" – that is, inaction. But the American people need not wait patiently, cowed by attacks on their loyalty, their patriotism, and their honor, while the neocons labor night and day to ruin our Constitutional republic forever. Rather, the people need only reject outright the regnant ideology that rains down epithets and threats upon them, and take to heart the instructions of the moral philosophers: Think. Judge. Act.

Marxism-Leninism teaches determinism – that there is nothing we can do to avoid the tyrannical future, which will be more violent than anything that has gone before. But the Founders knew long before Marx that the virtuous people could act. And act we should.

First, in Christian charity, we must attempt to shake the president awake from his nightmares – his idle dreams and bewildered, self-exculpatory illusions of retroactive future approvals of his present-day disasters. In addition to participating vigorously in the articulation of public opinion, which the president professes to ignore studiously, we must also urge Congress to use its Constitutional powers peacefully to drag the president back to reality. He must face his responsibilities and assume them himself – take back from Cheney, Petraeus, and the neocons the duties that are his alone, and face the music: he must take the credit, or the blame, himself.

If that effort bears no fruit, then Congress must recognize that this president is, for all practical purposes, constitutionally dead. That is, he is performing primarily the functions normally accorded to Vice Presidents – meeting with thoughtful admirers, greeting foreign dignitaries, and giving speeches to carefully-screened audiences. And, of course, traveling abroad – to countries that are forced to grind to a halt for days while his entourage, which bears all the trappings of an occupying army, takes over and shuts down entire capitals to prevent any unpopular sentiment from being publicly demonstrated.

Of course, Mr. Cheney has also defied the Constitution’s definition of the office of Vice President, and is, in any case, existentially inseparable from Mr. Bush (just ask Scooter Libby). Hence, if the Congress cannot bring both of these officers of the Executive Branch to their senses, it should impeach them immediately and restore responsibility and constitutional legitimacy to the Executive Branch.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.04.07 - 8:59 pm | #

Guys watch Dr. Stragelove to learn more about how fucked up our pentagon control center is and the nazi scientists that run the secret programs.

Some general goes haywire are sends a nuke to USSR and the pentagon is worried about whether their bunkers can hold more than the russians can.

they do this to evaluate wghether or not to launch all their birds.

it is fucking crazy and revealing

Blast from the past:

1-2-3 What Are We Fighting For?
http://www.strike-the-root.com/4...an/ newman7.html
by Doug Newman

1-2-3 What are we fighting for?
Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn. The next stop is Vietnam .
5-6-7 Open up the pearly gates.
It ain’t no time to wonder why. Yippee! We’re all going to die.

-- Country Joe and the Fish

I write this just after Memorial Day weekend. I cannot help being reminded of the above tune made famous at Woodstock. What, pray tell, are we fighting for in Iraq? Why are American men and – even more sadly – women spilling their blood? What is in it for America? Or are our troops in Iraq spilling their blood in vain? When he was seeking the presidency in 2000, Dubya proclaimed that America would be “a humble nation”. On his watch, America has been one of the most arrogant nations in the history of the world. In February 2001, neocon pundit Charles Krauthammer boasted that “the U.S. can reshape, indeed remake, reality on its own.” Remake reality? Far out, man! He further proclaimed that “America is in a position to reshape norms, alter expectations and create new realities. How? By unapologetic and implacable demonstrations of will.” Create new realities? Can I buy some marijuana from you, Mr. Krauthammer? (It reminds me of some graffiti I saw years ago: LSD consumes 47 times its weight in excess reality.)

The ongoing insurgency in Iraq bears witness to the folly of Krauthammer’s pronouncements. It took no courage to wage the Iraq war. Iraq is a country with 1/13 of America’s population, 1/180 of America’s economy and 1/200 of America's military budget. The U.N. boycott of Iraqi oil, in which the U.S. participated, had already devastated Iraq’s economy and caused hundreds of thousands of deaths. (1) And yet, to hear Dubya and his amen corner in the media tell it, Iraq was a thermonuclear juggernaut hell-bent on blowing up the planet. Well, we found no weapons of mass destruction. (If Saddam actually had them, he would have, like, used them when we invaded.) We caught Saddam. Gasoline is more expensive than ever. There was no Saddam-9/11 connection. (It always amuses me how, within 48 hours of the 9/11 attacks, everyone knew Osama Did It. But it took a year and a half for Dubya to build the case for Iraqi involvement in 9/11.) Iraqi gangbangers are busting caps on Americans left and right. (Yes, some Iraqis are glad we are there. However, America's invasion of Iraq has done much to fuel anti-American hatred throughout the Muslim world.)

What are we fighting for in Iraq?
Don’t ask a neocon. He doesn’t give a rip. It is Bush’s war, and we must rally around our president during wartime. Oh, that’s it! We are going to bring democracy to Iraq! Other than Israel, there are no enduring democratically elected governments in the Middle East. Oh sure, you might have one election in Iraq. One man-one vote will happen one time in Iraq before the whole country unravels into Islamo-chaos. Unlike Germany and Japan in 1946, there is no history of popularly elected governments in Iraq. No matter how unapologetically America demonstrates its will, it cannot remake indigenous cultures. The Brits, French, Belgians, Portuguese and others were unable to remake African cultures. The Brits were unable to remake the culture of India or, for that matter, most places where they set up shop. The United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand were predominantly populated by – oh this is going to open up a can of worms – white folks who brought with them things like Christianity and notions of individual freedom and limited government. And if recent headlines are any indicator, the Iraq war did nothing to deter further terrorist threats. Many pointed out that, of the seven terrorist suspects whose pictures appeared on page one of every newspaper in America recently, one was a woman and one was an American. However, no one pointed out that not one of these scumbags was an Iraqi. The smart money says that there will be another terrorist attack on American soil between now and the November conclusion of the big urinating contest between these two princes of the world system. Who knows what form it will take? Will jet planes fly into the Golden Gate and San Francisco Bay bridges, thus paralyzing America's fourth largest metropolitan area? Will a stadium implode during Monday Night Football? Will we witness a cyber-attack? No matter what happens, our invasion and occupation of Iraq will have done nothing to deter it. Our $400 billion annual military budget will have done nothing to deter it. Our troop presence in over 130 countries – the Soviet Union could never make such a claim – will have done nothing to deter it. You cannot throw your weight around to the extent that the United States does and expect to have everyone love you. The Brits were not universally loved. Nor were the Soviets, the Romans, or anyone else who played the empire game. And if we are not playing the empire game, what do you call it when you have troops stationed in over 130 countries?

Yeah, but what about our freedom?
Terrorists can fly planes into buildings, drive vehicles into pizza shops, set off bombs and so forth. However, they cannot deprive thee and me of our freedom. Only our own government can do that. And they cannot do it without our blessing. George W. Bush has done more to take away our freedom than Bill Clinton ever did. In the name of a false sense of security, we have let him do so. Not only have civil liberties eroded through things like the Patriot Act and the turning of airports into mini-police states, but all the social programs that Republicans used to say they hated – Medicare, government schools – have been expanded recklessly since 2001. How much more freedom will we relinquish after of the next terrorist attack? Had Al Gore tightened the tourniquet like Dubya has, Rush Limbaugh would no doubt lampoon him as Kim Jong-Al. But since Bush Almighty is tightening the tourniquet, let us now bend the knee and disengage the brain.

1-2-3 what are we fighting for in Iraq?
For years, I viewed the Country Joe lyrics at the start of this article as a juvenile jab at those who were spilling their blood in Vietnam. Now, in 2004, they serve as a satirical description of the mentality of those who are engineering the Iraq war. Deaths are merely collateral damage. You cannot make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. Don’t ask questions. Don’t think: follow! King Solomon knew 3,000 years ago that there is nothing new under the sun. All of America's power, dominance and technological wizardry cannot, in Krauthammer's words, "create new realities." Communism doesn't work because it cannot create a new reality. No government, not even the United States government, can create a new reality. There is only the old reality. Deal with it!

(1) Source: NationMaster

June 3, 2004

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Do you think this weapons are for guys in caves with no electricity or water?????????
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 8:47 pm | #

NYT: Sen. Clinton evades 'Flip-Flopper' label
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Ne...voids_0804.html

US FINANCING FORMER INSURGENTS IN IRAQ
http://rawstory.com/ showoutartic...0302322_pf.html
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 8:29 pm | #

State Dept. slams GOP candidate's 'bomb Mecca' threat
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ US_...__08032007.html
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 8:28 pm | #

At U.S. base, Iraqis must use separate latrine
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homep...tory/ 18685.html
FORWARD OPERATING BASE WARHORSE, Iraq — The sign taped to the men's latrine is just five lines:

"US MILITARY CONTRACTORS CIVILIANS ONLY!!!!!"

It needed only one: "NO IRAQIS."

Here at this searing, dusty U.S. military base about four miles west of Baqouba, Iraqis — including interpreters who walk the same foot patrols and sleep in the same tents as U.S. troops — must use segregated bathrooms.

Another sign, in a dining hall, warns Iraqis and "third-country nationals" that they have just one hour for breakfast, lunch or dinner. American troops get three hours. Iraqis say they sometimes wait as long as 45 minutes in hot lines to get inside the chow hall, leaving just 15 minutes to get their food and eat it.

It's been nearly 60 years since President Harry Truman ended racial segregation in the U.S. military. But at Forward Operating Base Warhorse it's alive and well, perhaps the only U.S. military facility with such rules, Iraqi interpreters here say.
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That my friends is an occupation
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 8:28 pm | #

A hero's wish

The captain of the Iraqi soccer team, Younis Mahmoud, the man who scored the winning goal in the Asia Cup on Sunday, is a national hero now. But he can't come home.

"I don't want the Iraqi people to be angry with me," he told reporters. "If I go back with the team, anybody could kill me or try to hurt me."

A wave of text messages and online instant messages between Iraqis spread through cell phones and computers late Sunday and Monday.

"Congrats. Congrats. Congrats. Tell the politicians we want this team to lead us. Step aside, step down and go back to where you came from," one mass message reads.

Throughout the day today our Iraqi staff got pictures of celebrations across the world from their friends and family who have fled.

And the national hero, Mahmoud, made one wish after the game.
http://washingtonbureau.typepad....america- go.html
"I want America to go out," Mahmoud said. "Today, tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow, but out. I wish the American people didn't invade Iraq and, hopefully, it will be over soon."
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 8:26 pm | #

Flattery doesn't stop bloggers from booing Democrats
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homep...tory/ 18713.html
CHICAGO — Liberal bloggers booed Hillary Clinton Saturday when she refused to rule out taking campaign contributions from lobbyists, a rare sore point as she and other Democratic presidential candidates courted the increasingly influential online commentators.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 8:24 pm | #

waiting on the remake of logans run too here.
Sees Things | 08.04.07 - 8:17 pm | #

watch and disect old movie demolition man

cocto thaws criminals to terrorize the populace
hired hit is denis leary the freedom guy
stallone the cop, demasculated, rendered innefective
taco bell the only restaurant after the franchise wars

naaw, they werent telling us whats really going on. watch it again, cynically.
Sees Things | 08.04.07 - 8:16 pm | #

Nice Ron Paul billboard on the east side of downtown Kansas City, north side of I-70,
picture of the man and: Ron Paul '08
abolish the IRS, Ron says: it's unconstitutional!
Henry Bowman | 08.04.07 - 7:49 pm |
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That is wonderful to hear Henry. Those billboards cost someone a lot of money.
kells | 08.04.07 - 8:14 pm | #

Everytime they attack they show their true intentions

sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:35 pm | #

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No, I think he/she/they are pretty low-tech...I caught your earlier watermark....it was no where near as sophisticated and they missed it!
Good to go!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 8:06 pm | #

Will we attack Iran? When? Choose one:

1. Right now
2. Within three months
3. Just after Christmas
4. When the Russian build reactor at Bushehr is completed, but before it goes online
pc | 08.04.07 - 7:50 pm | #

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Have you seen "shooter"...? If not, do so!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 7:06 pm | #

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Already seen it, also Awesome!!!!!

Hey Ron ya think the false flag blogger can do this?

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The Real Sane

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That should take him a few hours to figure out, just wait till I come back with colors and blinking text....dude, I have been showing everyone the false flag blogger shit. They are also going...holy shit, wtf people got nothing better to do. this is awesome.....

Everytime they attack they show their true intentions

sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:35 pm | #

In fact, most blogger will like the free comments to help with their with there community..

All of our trained staff are currently from the USA and Canada and speak English very well.
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Yeah, right.
Henry Bowman | 08.04.07 - 7:24 pm | #

Guys go see Bourne Movie....

If you're a troother, see this movie ASAP

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 6:55 pm | #

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Have you seen "shooter"...? If not, do so!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 7:06 pm | #

All the President's P.I.sSeveral ex-IGI agents work in the Clinton administration, and in 1994 the State ... Wackenhut is one of the nation's biggest private security firms, ...
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All Resources Search ResultsGender: Male Birth: 02 APR 1885 Clinton, Henry, Missouri ... IGI/Germany - 1. •, IGI/North America - 7. •, U.S. Social Security Death Index - 17 ...
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All Resources Search ResultsGender: M Birth/Christening: 16 Nov 1882 Clinton, Clinton, Ia .... IGI/Norway - 1. •, U.S. Social Security Death Index - 2 ...
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Internet Security News: [ISN] Microsoft, Watergate and Industrial ...Sitting on a special board of advisers created by IGI is George Vradenburg, ... Previous message: InfoSec News: "[ISN] Old security models inadequate for ...
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Internet Security News: [ISN] Dumpster Diving - No firewall helpsdirt on nemeses of President Clinton at the behest of his lawyers. ... someone such as IGI to see what they dig up. (Make sure you retain ...
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Security may tail PM till take-off point-Delhi-Cities-The Times of ...Security agencies are learnt to have asked IGI Airport to make this possible ... Sources said that when Bill Clinton came as US President some years back, ...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.c...how/ 1669460.cms - 50k - Cached - Similar pages

Washingtonpost.com Special Report: Clinton AccusedFormer IGI employees include: Brooke Shearer, senior adviser at the Interior Department; Anne Luzzatto, spokeswoman for the National Security Council; ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...starr022598.htm - Similar pages

DeWitt Public Library Local HistorySocial Security Death Index Online database of US deaths. · FamilySearch Online IGI database from the LDS (Morman) Church ...
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ACM News ServiceOracle said in its public statement that IGI discovered that these groups ... this budget would not provide any of the $50 million Clinton proposed to give ...
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CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:Worse, The Times says Bill Clinton's national security advisor, ...... Cody Shearer worked as a subcontractor for IGI on at least one case, Milton says. ...
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ALL THE CLINTON DIRT...
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=ca...l.com/ 02742.htm

sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 6:59 pm | #

Gotta jet for a bit, so if "I" post here in the next two hours, you know its not me.
False Flag Blogger | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:35 pm | #
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How many of them do you think there are? I think three.....
False Flag Blogger | 08.04.07 - 4:53 pm | #

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Guys go see Bourne Movie....

If you're a troother, see this movie ASAP

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 6:55 pm | #

Hi Trolls.
Enough, you guys have proved just how aggravating you can be.
Better still, Enlist there is a bonus for now, there are good pluses, great food and health care, clothing. real great benefits. You will get to travel & You can serve our commander and chief Mr. G. Bush with pride. Uncle Sam needs men like you.
chris jones | 08.04.07 - 5:36 pm | #

WAIT,(MUFFLED LAUGHTER) THESE PUKES ARE SHOWING EXACTLY WHY THE NEED TO BE DIS-
MISSED FROM ACTIVE "SERVICE" ONCE EVERY
4-8 YEARS MAX, AND MAKE THEM RETURN TO THE "CAREER" THEY LEFT BEHIND TO GO TO D.C. AND BE THE PPLS REPS, SO THIS WAY THEY GET TO LIVE UNDER THEIR OWN JUDGMENTS AND LAWS!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.04.07 - 4:27 pm | #

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Even better, we need to make them give back the money they have stolen, return the keys to the private empires they have built, and pay reparations to the families they have harmed. If w took away there money/power and made them live in the "real world" I think we would have true justice....just a dream I have.
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 4:52 pm | #

Gotta jet for a bit, so if "I" post here in the next two hours, you know its not me.
False Flag Blogger | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:35 pm | #
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hahaahahahahaha

That is because you got so .....

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!
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FALSE FLAG BLOGGING ON THREAD 60 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Notice the signs of the false flag terrorist blogger:

1]Scare people with pornographic pictures

2]Make it look like it is someone else

3]Create more propaganda supporting the False Flag terror blog attack

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POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!

sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:38 pm | #

Senate passes Bush-backed spy bill
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Good one Aqua. Here is some more truth to follow that up.

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Gotta jet for a bit, so if "I" post here in the next two hours, you know its not me.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:35 pm | #

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

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FALSE FLAG BLOGGING ON THREAD 60!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Notice the signs of the false flar terrorist blogger:

1]Scare people with pornographic pictures

2]Make it look like it is someone else

3]Create more propaganda supporting the False Flag terror blog attack

___________________________________

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!

sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:29 pm | #

Senate passes Bush-backed spy bill

Thomas Ferraro and Richard Cowan
Reuters
Saturday Aug 4, 2007

The Democratic-led U.S. Senate, amid warnings of further attacks on the United States, approved a bill on Friday that would allow President George W. Bush to maintain his controversial domestic spying program.

On a vote of 60-28, the Senate sent the measure to the Democratic-led U.S. House of Representatives for consideration as early as Saturday as lawmakers push to begin a month-long recess.

Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell said earlier he needed the legislation "in order to protect the nation from attacks that are being planned today to inflict mass casualties on the United States."

The Senate bill was needed, congressional aides said, because of restrictions recently imposed by a secret court on the ability of U.S. spy agencies to intercept telephone calls and e-mails of suspected terrorists overseas.

Offered by Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, no relation to the national intelligence director, the bill would allow the administration to continue the warrantless surveillance but require it to describe to a secret federal court the procedures it uses in targeting foreign suspects.

The Senate defeated, on a 45-43 vote, a Democratic alternative, which would have placed tighter controls on the spying and provided for independent assessments of the attorney general's implementation of the measure.

The Senate votes came shortly after Republicans in the House rejected as inadequate a competing Democratic measure.

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid criticized the Senate-passed bill, saying it "authorizes warrantless searches and surveillance of American phone calls, e-mails, homes, offices and personal records for however long (it takes for) an appeal to a court of review."

If signed into law, the Senate bill would expire in six months. During that period, Congress would seek to write permanent legislation.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, passed in 1978, requires the government to obtain orders from the secret FISA court to conduct surveillance of suspected terrorists in the United States.

After the September 11 attacks, Bush authorized the interception without warrants of communications between people in the United States and others overseas if one had suspected ties to terrorists. Critics charge that program violated the FISA law, but Bush argued he had wartime powers to do so.

In January, Bush put the program under the supervision of the FISA court. Terms of the oversight have not been made public.

House Democrats argued their bill gave the national intelligence director what he wanted and that he demanded more after conversations with the White House.

The House bill would have required the attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, to submit procedures for international surveillance to the secret FISA court for approval and require periodic audits by the Justice Department's inspector general.

Gonzales had proven to be a problem in reaching an agreement since mostly Democratic lawmakers have accused him of misleading Congress on the spying program.

And you guys really thought your vote would make a change?????????

WAIT,(MUFFLED LAUGHTER) THESE PUKES ARE SHOWING EXACTLY WHY THE NEED TO BE DIS-
MISSED FROM ACTIVE "SERVICE" ONCE EVERY
4-8 YEARS MAX, AND MAKE THEM RETURN TO THE "CAREER" THEY LEFT BEHIND TO GO TO D.C. AND BE THE PPLS REPS, SO THIS WAY THEY GET TO LIVE UNDER THEIR OWN JUDGMENTS AND LAWS!!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force | 08.04.07 - 4:27 pm | #

Remember kids, a truth a day keeps the NWO away.

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I'm your Truth Radio host, sane. Bringing truth 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. So just sit back, sip a martini and enjoy the truth.
sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:25 pm | #

The good thing is I can blame my typos and spelling on some other loser "look on the bright side of life..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...h? v=1loyjm4SOa0
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 4:25 pm | #

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

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FALSE FLAG BLOGGING ON THREAD 60!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

POWNED!!

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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!

sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:24 pm | #

It's NOT me DToM. It's this idiot imposter. You should know that.
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 4:12 pm | #

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That is so unlike me....go find some old posts of me in a debate......your skills are weak, the darkside have foresaken you...come tot he light!
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 4:20 pm | #

YOU JUST GOT pWnEd

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!

sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:13 pm | #

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Good call mate!

http://911blogger.com/dailynews
Ron in LA | 08.04.07 - 4:17 pm | #

False Flag Blogger even has shills run to promote the false flag just like CNN/FOX pundits

hahahahahhahaha

This is hilarious

FALSE FLAG BLOGGING EXPOSED ON THREAD 60

Spread the word...false flags exist everywhere....even in the blogosphere

POWNED!!

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sane | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:17 pm | #

You're a sorry excuse for a human being.
Don't tread on Me | 08.04.07 - 4:07 pm | #

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Well at least you took the time to research the persona youn stole this time.

http://www.childlustrecovery.org...m/ children.html