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The paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms — he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization... he does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute evil, what is necessary is not compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated — if not from the world, at least from the theatre of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention. This demand for total triumph leads to the formulation of hopelessly unrealistic goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure constantly heightens the paranoid’s sense of frustration. Even partial success leaves him with the same feeling of powerlessness with which he began, and this in turn only strengthens his awareness of the vast and terrifying quality of the enemy he opposes.
If you haven't seen this I think you should. It is even more proof that 9/11 is a huge coverup.
I heard Jack Blood talk about the 3 stages today and thought I would look into that theory to understand what he was talking about and then I found this video:
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=222&
Itemid=50
It is a collection of short mainstream media and independent film clips on the evolution of 9/11 skepticism. Many of this I have not seen before. It is all new footage to me.
Amen, James!
ONLY True Peace, in Jesus the Christ's name,
Embedded chips in people= "THE MARK OF THE BEAST" Rev. 13: 16-18... means sure death to the individual. Rev. 14: 9-12.... Why taunt the only power in this great Universe who can grant you either eternal life or eternal death? Denial will not grant you eternal life- only condemn you to the fate now facing the shadow government presently running this country for their father Satan. Rev. 21:8 You do not need an "arm of flesh" like Hezekiah 2 Chronicles 32:8 only a little faith, while waiting on our God..Ps.37:10,11 The great evil one has been in our face for decades, Rev. 12:7-12..... beginning in 1912 with the death of John Jacob Astor on the doomed ship Titanic- built by the Demon Rockefeller for just that purpose---Astor, the only man standing in the way of the English bankers intent on establishing three things...#1 our debt currency- the printed worthless paper we now unconstitutionally call money. #2 the Federal Reserve (not Federal and no reserves). and #3 Our very own unconstitutional Income tax..never radified and not used to pay our bills; only used to line the pockets of the Cabal of private Bankers..most of whom now run our stock exchange. These "accomplishments" allowed the good old USA to be able to "borrow" the money for entry into the 2nd World War..Which they could not have done on the gold coin standard of our forefathers.Thank you Mr. Griffin and " the creature from Jekyll Island" Also, check into the Marc card issued in 1994 by the D.O.D...a card " USED FOR IDENTIFICATION" called the Mutitechnological Automated Reader Card. MARC or mark card...eye opening for those of us not living in denial....This chip will be placed in the hand because there are the temperature changes there to power the lithium battery in the chip....Also note: the number 666 is the basis of all bar codes; That should be self explanatory. The word for 666 in Latin is Chi xi Stigma....meaning: a mark incised or punched for recognition or ownership!!! ie. A NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE..Satan loves this stuff!! Do your homework people and just say NO!!
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I have been considering the large number of my friends and family who cant hear me when I talk about the NWO etc. Most of them live in the world of blind denial of what is going on around them and it pisses me off. My best efforts to convert them to reality have for the most part been a waste of time. they just don't want to believe that our government is evil and looking out only for the wealthy elite. I have from time to time said flip them all tried to forget about trying to help them prepare. But I love them and find that I cant give up on them.
I have decided to take a new approach and bring it to a level that they can relate to. Most of them realize that the attack on 911 was real and that no matter who did it, it or something worse could happen any time and that we, as a nation and as individuals are not repaired to last more than a few days with what we have on hand. My heart is to help them wake up and begin to do the things necessary to sustain life without the conveniences we have taken for granted for so long. If you have any ideas, i would be greatful to hear from you. thanks
The Ismail aspect, is a very hidden, and squelched subject (by the heads of our government and the controlled media.) To make it short, Iamail was the Illegimate son of Abraham of the old testiment bible, In which the story goes that God promised Abraham to have a son with his wife Sarah that would inherit the land of Israel. Abraham Did have a son with Sarah, his name was Isiac. So Isiac is perceived to be the inheriter, and that would be for the Hebrew nation, Now Ismael was banished, and he and his mom Hagar went East, into what is now Muslem territory, so then after awhile, the new religion at that time was Muslim, and they somehow say that, or they adopted the comment that Ismael was a father of their nation, so they are the inheritors of Israel, so you have got two nationalities/religions, claimind a right to the nation of israel. That is why the dome of the roch k and solomons temple are built on the same location, that is why all, and I mean all of the international politics revolve secretly around this. The media will sometimes admit to it as a religious war, but those in controll try to hide it, Why, maybe this will help you, What you have is three religions that primarily use the old testiment as the start of their bible, The Jews, Christians and the Muslims. I am serious, The Torah, The Bible, and the Koran, all start with the same old testiment.
Two of the three claim to be the inheritor of Israel. The problem arises with Jesus Christ being a profit, and his prophecies in the Gospel. Pre tell of this consternation between the other two religions, one of which was never invented till after his death. It is also the same prediction of armageddon, and the return of J.C. as the savior. and it states that this is the platform that the foretold anti christ will use to controll the world to try to bring it to the armageddon finali, , so as to extinguish mankind in his fight against God. This is all a difficult subject in this short format, however it usually all falls into place when you see the Hebrews and the palistines fighting, and then bin lauden crushing the twin towers in the name of Ismael , but the media trys to hide it, and the gospel prophecies predict this, by saying Satan will be in controll of the western world and controll the economy, governments, and religion, in short, all the influential powers of the western world. It states that we do not wrestle against flesh and blood alone, byt powers of a higher source, (Principalities in higher places, etc etc, by that it is interperated as satan,
My two cents, being the media is always trying to hide these facts, it stands to reason that it is all true. I mean you lost the towers in the name of Ismael. this guy got it tattoed on him, the PLO army was founded on it, whereas the fighting in the middle east, which consumes all of the wars and turbulance in the world keeps happening, without anyone giving you a clear cut reason,, it is the kep you in the dark theory and keep you dumb, and keep you controlled, kinda like a dictatorship, then put the pawns/slaves up for slaughter.
For those that haven't seen it yet. Here is the VA Tech Gunman manifesto video that he sent to NBC right before he went on his shooting rampage.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=209&
Itemid=50
RE:
"Ismail Ax" The VT Gunman's Final Message?
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I was reading this story and thought about people trying to make sense of the meaning "Ismail Ax".
I don't know what it means and find it curious why many focus on that aspect of the carnage.All of it may be prove nothing.
The story says the guy was an English major so i doubt he mispelled any words.
I tried a little experiment nobody mentioned.All I did was type the words backwords and googled each word.
XA is found here:http://www.vtxa.com/
Liamsi was found at:http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/
character_profile.vm?characterId=515396089055
So, if I was analyse this, I could say the person was a Christian warrior.
I know none of this could be true.I did a 20 minute google on this.
I'm just trying to illustrate how things than go off course very fast in traumatic events.
I'm not making light of such a tragedy and my prayers are with the families who lost loved ones.
All I'm saying is that we should slow down.Alot of serial killers/murderers seem to relish in leaving cryptic clues that may, or may not make sense.
I hope this post is interpreted in the spirit I intended.
For all those in here that have been wondering about God, Religion or a higher power, these are 3 videos you should see.
The Story of God pt.1
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=205&
Itemid=50
The Story of God pt.2
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=206&
Itemid=50
The Story of God pt.3
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=207&
Itemid=50
This documentary by the BBC follows the trend of religion from its beginnings to now.. Very informative and spiritually uplifting.
Also this is an older movie now, but it has been taken down from most sites out there. An people have been requesting to see this very, very powerful documentary about Governments and their involvement to Wars.
Why We Fight:
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...id=12&
Itemid=50
This documentary kind of says it all. The points of views from the BBC documentary are not that much different from that of Alex Jones. So it is kind of odd to see that current documentary against Alex and the 911 Truth Movement.
!Help ALEX JONES- Digg TerrOrStorm
http://www.digg.com/videos/
educa...red_Terrorism_2
Thanks!!
Oh, great, I meant to check before I posted that last comment, P.P. has changed the link over to Page 10 already! Cool!
I know Gabe knows, but in case any of you don't know, most of us have switched over to Page 10 where the page isn't messed up, and are almost completely commenting over there:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...aderComments10/
ONLY True Peace,
Gabe, you live!
So, early today, my best friend stopped over and I told him that I was starting up a website, about the campaign, about the PACs and
lobbies and he got REALLY excited. He finally felt I had an answer to his question "what are you going to do about it." He is a more artsy
person than me, and is going to college for multimedia design. He expressed an interest in helping out with the website once I get it up.
The number one thing we agreed on is that while many would 'like' to participate in government, it is overwhelming to try to track every
issue, every hearing, etc.. etc.. Generally, political citizen groups don't try to inform, they manipulate the information based on their
agenda. You get 'talking points' snappy things like 'vote NO on proposal B' but then no full listing of proposal B with possible
interpretations. To join those groups, one must agree with the ideology of the group. This is where I want to be different. I would like
to form a group of volunteers that track and assemble lists of all proposals, all hearings, etc.. With more than one person doing it,
it will not be so overwhelming. When proposals and hearings come up, we can send representatives to be heard. No party affiliation
is required, and anybody should be allowed to join and feel comfortable. The only requirement is to be an American Citizen.
Ultimately I would like to see lawayers, economists, etc.. get involved to help translate legal language in the bills and proposals with
no agenda, just information. No push to vote a certain way, just information. I would like volunteers that are willing to go with and/or
help transport people to hearings and poll stations. Again, no pushing anyone in any certain direction, just information and help to
get them to express their views. We could hold mock elections to get people familiar and comfortable with the process. This is one
of the biggest hurdles of getting people to participate. It needs to 'feel' normal. The first time I went to vote, I felt very uncomfortable.
I felt like everyone else knew what they were doing and I was going to stick out like a sore thumb. It took me a long time to overcome
that fear and just do it. Since then I have gotten several of my friends and family to do it. I had to go with them the first time because
they felt just like I did my first time.
Honestly, I think we can can 'shock and awe' them with massive participation in government. THEY know that when we break the law
to try to affect change, that they will have the law on their side. If we follow the law to affect change, well, I am not sure they have a
plan for that.
Given enough clout (which will take time,) it would be reasonable to expect candidates to be forced to address the committees, speak
before them, and get media coverage of events. We should demand that these are small and personal so that people can openly talk
and participate in discussions with the candidates. Right now, they just get to talk and people just get to listen.
I think the most important thing is to have a simple and transparent agenda. Participation in government. No pushing a party line, no
forcing a hand. Participate as little or as much as you want. No rewards or punishments, just support and info. People have the
uncanny ability to spot propaganda, regardless of how it might seem. I honestly believe that many simply don't participate because
it doesn't seem 'comfortable,' they don't feel informed enough, or they have been driven to believe that their vote won't count. People
have lost faith in the system. That is what I would like to change.
Thanks Kretzkin.
I don't think we are at a place, even locally, where enough of the public, is tired of the crap, and willing to make a stand.
...
When defeat is so prevalent, it becomes monotonous to keep playing along. Thus the very idea of a bloody revolution, sounds like the only means to an end.
Peace my friend,
Marcianne | 04.17.07 - 1:17 pm | #
You'll have to believe me when I tell you that I understand the sentiment. But, I believe this feeling of defeat comes from trying to make a
change alone. This is why I am talking about PACs and Lobbies. There is strength in numbers. Given the right information, you would
probably be surprised how many people will join your side.
After the "crazy" discussion with Gabe last night, I was at work. I asked a co-worker that I would say was "normal" in the regards of
government and politics, if he thought it was crazy to suggest that 911 was an inside job. He told me that no, he didn't think it was
crazy to suggest that. He didn't wholy agree that it was an inside job, but it opened up a discussion and honestly, he felt much like
I did. He felt that it was entirely possible in the sense that he would not put it past any government to do such a thing, but that he
could not form a definitive opinion about it based on 'theories.' I pointed out the most basic facts, only the information which could be
absolutely backed up without having to go to "conspiracy" websites and relying on hearsay, with which he really wasn't aware of and
he agreed that it at least meant we had enough to start up a trial. He had to agree with me that if what I was telling him was true, that
at the very least, people in government KNEW. Now, this is a typical normal middle class and middle age professional that NOONE
would call crazy. His answer to me probably would have been different if I had approached him more aggressively.
Now, one could boast 'score' because I essentially 'woke him up.' But I won't, because I don't think he was really sleeping. He just
wasn't paying attention, like most. I am sure the experience did not prompt him to start jumping on wagons and downloading movies,
sharing it, etc... The 'waking up' is much more subtle. Again, his response was 'what can we do about it?' This is where I see most
truth efforts falling short. I have seen the responses that say 'you should go and download such-and-such video', 'visit such and such
websites', 'buy this t-shirt', etc.. etc... ad nauseum. But, he's not going to just to be left with a crap load of information and nothing
effective to do with it. It's not enough to just 'wake someone up' as if they were stupid to begin with.
So, anyway, our discussion turned to what I was planning to do. Suddenly he was much more receptive to offering his direct opinions.
He agreed that it was an excellent idea, pointed out that it might take a long time, but was worthwhile. I can guarantee you this person
would have stopped listening to me if I said 'you should go out, buy a gun, stock up on food, build a bomb shelter' etc...His opinion of
the 'crazy' aspect would have taken a 180 degree turn.
At any rate, it was an awesome discussion and I learned a lot from him. A lot about what a normal, average person thinks about all
this. If the end result of a truth movement is to destroy hope, you will find resistance everywhere you turn, except for those that have
already given up hope. But, then, you are just preaching to choir.
By the way, this coworker is a democrat. I am a conservative. We had no problems agreeing on many issues regarding politics and
what needs to be done.
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Fuck with me and I'll "enable" your cookies
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I was one of those teenagers that didn't care about politics because
I didn't think it really affected me. I thought the government was overall good.
If anything, I was a socialist.
Then when I was old enough to vote, I thought my vote wouldn't matter,
or I didn't vote because I didn't know enough about the issues.
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I was much like you were my friend.At the age of 40 I finally started to pay attention because things just weren't adding up.I voted for the first time a few years ago.My bro's girlfriend practically dragged me to the voting station and on the way she lectured me in a way that I understood.
After voting I thanked her and started to get more involved.Three years later I am much more aware of how laws work, how they are passed and how public influence can determine outcomes of these laws.
I'm starting to think the system is flawed mainly because not enough citizens pay attention or get involved.Many people assume the politicians will make the right decisions but there is always fine print that rarely gets reported.
It's like leaving a kid alone in a candy store and the government is the kid.The candy is our back pocket.
I've been amazed that higher ups in the Canadian government reply to every email I send.It may take a month but I get an apology for the delay and I get an answer, albeit rarely a straight one.
I also see another disadvantage to the average citizen.Governments have meetings and talk about the nations working together on this or that.
American citizens form groups to discuss issues that affect them,Canadians do the same and so on.
As citizens, how can we network to make changes that impact us all?Kind of a rountable discussion without the committee mentality.
Thanks AK, much of what you say makes sense to me.
FIND as in FIND WHERE YOU ARE AT ALL TIMES VIA YOUR BRAIN IMPLANT...
BRAINS.... BRAINS.... BRAINS!!!!!
Gabe, where in the heck are you, Man?!... How 'bout, "On the twelfth day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, 12 changes of underwear...."? (Because we're gonna need 'em after we shit our pants in the "Freedom Camps".) LOL!
Thanks Kretzkin.
I don't think we are at a place, even locally, where enough of the public, is tired of the crap, and willing to make a stand.
I will give you two examples:
I went to a Council meeting, to speak out about how the "Friend of the Court" favors women, when granting parental rights. Which leaves men out of the picture, as to who should raise their children.
Many people spoke.
I cannot remember what was going on in the law at that time to warrent the meeting.
Anyway, further defeat for Father's rights.
At another council meeting for the City of Mt. Clemens, the room was full of supporters in favor of keeping our Police Dept. Defeat again, we lost our Police.
I faught against abortion for years, prior to Roe. We know where that went.
When defeat is so prevalent, it becomes monotonous to keep playing along. Thus the very idea of a bloody revolution, sounds like the only means to an end.
Peace my friend,
We need to form lobbies, political action committees, etc... We need to have our voices heard over the corporate lobbyists.
We need to get informed about every local issue going on in our local governments. I don't mean just reading the "Vote no
on proposal B" flyers for information, I mean READING proposal B, watching out for riders and pork, and then voting in an
informed way. Vote now to new school books for your kids if it means voting against something worse thrown in the proposal.
Vote against anti-child-predator bills when it means cameras will be installed on every corner. We all want to be against
child-predators, and this is exactly why they ride this stuff on those types of bills. We need to vote with our intelligence,
not our emotions.
As I said, they are bound by the rules, still. When they break the rules, nobody is enforcing it. We need to hold the enforcers
accountable.
In summary, we need to start pushing the shit back uphill. We need to make our local communities sustainable with jobs, schools,
etc... We need to break them of federal aid so they are no longer getting blackmailed and extorted.
When we make some gains, we should push our states to pull out from the federal income taxes which are robbing the states by
taking too much money from the people that the states can't get the money they need from us.
Yes, as I understand so far, a state has absolute authority to do that. But they won't as long as they need the federal
government to keep them afloat. This I liken to the union/mafia strategy: go break up someone's store, beat the owner, then
offer them "protection" for a cost.
We need to get back on some type of money standard. Maybe not the gold standard, but not how it currently is (future tax
revenue.) Because when the dollar falls and you and I can't pay the bills anymore with our taxes, other countries are going to
come to collect.
I, like most, believed we lived in a true democracy instead of a representative republic.
I didn't understand what a "lobby" was, how bills were passed, or how the hierarchy
of the system works.
Now, I believe one of the MOST important thing we need to learn is how to participate
in our republic. How to play the game using the rules.
This all occured to me after constantly getting the rebuttal "what are you going to do
about it?" I thank my friends and colleagues for persistently aggravating me with that
question. My first answers were to form militias, build up arms, etc... For now, that
strategy will not work.
Believe it or not, THEY are still bound by the rules. But they are abusing the rules
because people are not paying attention. That is where the change is needed.
Simply "waking people up" will do nothing to change it if they still will not participate.
Then you have others making excuses saying they can't, or they are blocked, etc...
I just don't believe that. I feel it is a cop out.
Again, not every member of government is in a big conspiracy. Those that are
still true to America need our support. They need us to participate.
You have the floor. Use your soapbox if needed.
Thanks.
Marcianne | 04.16.07 - 2:33 pm | #
Marcianne, I would be embarassed to admit my ignorance of how
government works, but I intend to learn, both on my own and when
I head back to college soon. Perhaps a minor in political science.
I was one of those teenagers that didn't care about politics because
I didn't think it really affected me. I thought the government was overall good.
If anything, I was a socialist.
Then when I was old enough to vote, I thought my vote wouldn't matter,
or I didn't vote because I didn't know enough about the issues.
I do vote now, but have only been voting in the "big" elections. I have been
ignoring local and regional issues. This is what I must change, what I am asking
others to change.
One of the campaigns I would like to get started is to push for education in government
EVERY year in school for children. Practical examples, mock votes, etc... The urban
public schools (like the one that I went to) do not teach any of it. You grow up
ignorant of the system and what tools and resources are available to you.
Anyway, I am in no position to teach anyone right now, as much as I would love to.
I am on the journey myself.
Kretzkin
That's pretty darn good, Gabe, but I think you ought to think of a little better "Twelfth Day of Christmas"; but, otherwise, I think you've really got something there and ought to publish that far and wide. GOOD JOB, MAN!
On the twelfth day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, 12 games of golf,
Eleven "Freedom Camps",
Ten Al-Qaeda suspects,
Nine Skull & Bones,
Eight flag draped caskets,
Seven tortured soldiers,
Six dead Iraqi children,
FIVE EXECUTIVE ORDERS!
Four tons of cocaine,
Three bucks a gallon,
Two demolished towers,
and a speech- and he said I was free.
On the eleventh day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, eleven "Freedom Camps",
Ten Al-Qaeda suspects,
Nine Skull & Bones,
Eight flag draped caskets,
Seven tortured soldiers,
Six dead Iraqi children,
FIVE EXECUTIVE ORDERS!
Four tons of cocaine,
Three bucks a gallon,
Two demolished towers,
and a speech- and he said I was free
On the tenth day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, ten Al-Qieda suspects,
Nine Skull & Bones,
Eight flagged draped caskets,
Seven tortured soldiers,
Six dead Iraqi children
FIVE EXECUTIVE ORDERS!
Four tons of cocaine,
Three bucks a gallon,
Two demolished towers,
and a speech- and he said I was free
I got it finally 
Here is the footage that an eye witness captured off of a cellphone during the shooting at Virginia Tech.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=203&
Itemid=50
Good thing that we all are aloud to carry cameras, cause you never know what you are going to run into.
On the ninth day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, nine Skull & Bones,
Eight flag draped caskets,
Seven tortured soldiers,
Six dead Iraqi children,
FIVE EXECUTIVE ORDERS!
Four tons of cocaine,
Three bucks a gallon,
Two demolished towers,
and a speech- and he said I was free.
On the eight day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, eight flag draped caskets,
Seven tortured soldiers,
Six dead Iraqi children,
FIVE EXECUTIVE ORDERS!
Four tons of cocaine,
Three bucks a gallon,
Two demolished towers,
and a speech- and he said I was free.
On the seventh day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, seven tortured soldiers,
six dead Iraqi children,
FIVE EXECUTIVE ORDERS!
Four tons of cocaine,
Three bucks a gallon,
Two demolished towers,
and a speech- and he said I was free
On the sixth day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, six dead Iraqi children,
FIVE EXECUTIVE ORDERS!
Four tons of cocaine,
Three bucks a gallon,
Two demolished towers,
and a speech- and he said I was free.
Of course your not normal!
If you were, you wouldn't be called "Amazing".
Prison planet is a safe house for conspiracy nuts.
Were all friends here, different beliefs, theory,
whatever.
We all agree on 911, and foul play in the government.
We are all united on that! And that's what matters.
Your Ally against tyranny- GABE
POWER TO THE COMMON PEOPLE!
On the fifth day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, five executive orders!
Four tons of cocaine,
Three bucks a gallon,
Two demolished towers,
and a speech- and he said I was free
Gabriel Alan King | 04.17.07 - 1:11 am | #
Except your characterization of me, I agree with what you say. You and I have not
encountered each other enough for you to understand that I am not exactly "normal"
and disbelieving. I try my best not to argue what I "believe" because it really cannot be
argued, but fought with no real purpose.
I also disagree that my broad generalization is wrong, overall. Many in here do not fit the
category I described, but many out in the truth movement do. This is what I meant by
feeling at home here. There isn't too many of those here. I thought I was careful to make
it clear I was not pointing at anyone here, specifically.
Overall, I think your understanding of the situation is sound.
Thanks for the dialog.
ummmm... are ya'll in here ok? hahaahahahahahaha
On the fourth day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, four tons of cocaine,
Three bucks a gallon,
Two demolished towers,
and a speech- and he said I was free.
Kretzin.
A good analysis. And much in some respects, I feel true.
I agree that the fact that 911 was an inside job is basically
100% irrefutable fact, considering all of the available
information.
To make a long story short, I have seen a UFO, and
I don't mean on a video. Most of us have no hidden
desire to be "fringe", or need to boost our self esteem.
We just want to know as much as we can about life,
and about reality.
People like yourself need to rationalize our strange
behavior, and make some kind of sense out of it.
Thus you create theories to support your viewpoints.
Theories like, "Oh, they just want attention, and
some excitement in their lives."
In most cases, this is not the truth. Just remember to
keep in mind that none of us knows everything. In fact,
most of us know extremely very little. Some of us
might be experts in a given subject, or a few subjects.
But very few of us know a whole hell of alot about
everything.
By the way, if there are no UFO's, then we are the
first "Aliens". Unless the moon landing was fake, and
we have never sent sattelites into deep space.
A little secret just between you and me...............
Elvis and Jesus planned 911!
No, really!
Scientists have used carbon dating, and Hostile intent
detectors to..............................................
Just kidding bro.
Gabriel Alan King | 04.17.07 - 12:28 am | #
On the third day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, three lame excuses,
two demolished towers
and a speech- and he said I was free
Also, "normal" people do NOT think it is crazy. They think the
crazy person standing in front of them is crazy, not the idea.
And that was my point. It's about how you present yourself
and your message. You sound crazy, and "normal" people
will walk to the other side of the street.
"Normal" people know 911 must have been an inside job.
Those that call one of these "normal" people crazy
are not being genuine for one reason or another.
They do not respresent the "normal" person at all.
Those that WANT to be labelled "crazy" are just trying to be
anti-conformists and take pride in the revulsion they get from
others. It is a desire just to be "different." Since they are not
genuinely smarter than average, they cling to things the smart
people reject in an effort to feel significant.
Misery loves company and there are strength in numbers, so
when they find there are others like them, it somehow proves
to themselves that it is "truth." And so we see how "religion" has
survived all these years.
And that is my point as well. Truth is not something you "believe."
It is simply true, factual, without argument. If there is room for
argument, then it is not yet truth. At least in the context of
scientific and intellectual analysis.
There are many things about 9/11 that leave no room for argument.
But people are too busy fighting the wrong fight or their egos are
allowing themselves to defend the yet indefensible (until an
investigation.) It spoils the truth. We should stop trying to invent new
"theories" and focus on the facts; the defensible, and provable facts.
Do not allow ourselves to be dragged into defending "theories."
There is no point to this.
Saying there were no planes that hit the towers, is ridiculous and has
no room for argument. Yet people still try to in an effort to feel significant
and 'fringe.' Being an outcast is a coveted lable for some. Usually teenagers
or the intellectually immature.
On the second day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, two demolished towers
and a speech- and he said I was free.
On the first day of Christmas, George Bush gave to me, a speech- and he said I was free.
Peace back to you Kretzkin.
A little secret just between you and me...............
Elvis and Jesus planned 911!
No, really!
Scientists have used carbon dating, and Hostile intent
detectors to..............................................
Just kidding bro.
Isn't it a little strange that Satan is referred to as a
serpent, or a Dragon in the Bible so many times?
And according to the Bible, Satan's children were
sown into the earth by him, to live and dwell among
us, until the time of the end. Jesus called them the
"TARES". Jesus also chastised the Pharisees calling
them "ye serpents, ye brood of vipers".
Perhaps there is something to all of this. I don't think
we should laugh at peoples ideas until they can be
proven wrong, beyond doubt.
Gabriel Alan King | 04.16.07 - 10:32 pm | #
OK, Gabe.
BTW, nobody here was "laughing."
Peace
Kretzkin
Sorry, I momentarilly forgot about the problem with
this page, being so used to not having to deal with
that problem on Page 10 of this forum, am I:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...aderComments10/
If you want to fairly easily be able to "reconstitute"
what I just posted below so you can more easily
read it, highlight all of it by putting your cursor at
the beginning of it, dragging your cursor down to
the end of it, "Control 'C' it" to copy it to your
computer's Clipboard, then open Windows Write
or Notepad, "Control 'V' it" to paste it into the
word processor [if it isn't set for "Wordwrap", go
into the settings via the drop-down menu(s) at the
top and turn Wordwrap on], and then read it there.
ONLY True Peace,
"Christians are not perfect, just forgiven" is a lie and a false part of the fraudulent counterfeit-"Christianity" (mixture of truth and evil falsehoods) of the evangelical-fundamentalists. Again, God is ALL powerful, and/or Almighty, therefore He CAN, and WILL if we really want Him to, get us up to a higher standard of righteousness by faith NOW.
Look more closely at your New Testament. Once the Apostles received the Holy Spirit in Acts, Chapter 2, they NO LONGER continued in INTENTIONAL sin AT ALL, unless they backslid and lost the Holy Spirit, which to my knowledge none of them (the Eleven) did. They were transformed COMPLETELY, "....Behold, ALL things bec(a)me new....", they became TOTALLY new creatures in Jesus the Christ, with Him and His character FILLING their hearts and minds, and "....the old man of sin...." became DEAD.
Jesus the Christ and the devil cannot AT ALL reside in the same heart or life at the same time; and, as you know, we are either of Jesus the Christ or we are not, there is no gray area or half being of God and the devil or the world (2 Corrinthians, Chapter 6, etc.). If the devil comes back to reside in the life of any soul, Jesus the Christ has to leave. That does not mean they can't get Him back if they TRULY AND FULLY repent, like David did, but we cannot keep "falling and getting up, falling and getting up", over and over again, without committing the unpardonable sin of grieving away the Holy Spirit (for that's the real truth of what the unpardonable sin is).
Oh, I know most professed-"Christians", the majority of counterfeit-"Christians" misinterpret Romans, Chapter 6, 7 and 8, and falsely believe, because it is "sandwiched" in between Chapters 6 and 7, that when the Apostle Paul speaks of "....doing that which (he) would not....", and "....that which (he) would not do, (he did)....", he's supposedly talking about it allegedly being okay to continue in intentional sin after complete conversion. But he is NOT saying that. Or God is NOT saying that through him. In Chapter 7 he is talking about his pre-conversion experience, but it's a "stumblingblock for the unlearned and unstable to wrest (or interpret) the way they want, the way that fits their "easier way into heaven", their lower standard of righteousness by faith that lowers God's character into the dirt, and that doesn't work AT ALL, and confused them because it's sandwiched in between two chapters, 6 and 8, which are talking about his post- (or after-) conversion experience; so they very wrongly think that he can't be "jumping" from talking about post-conversion, to pre-conversion, back to post-conversion, BUT HE IS.
Jesus the Christ, and all of the eleven Apostles, are our example that we CAN lead sinless lives, without ANY intentional sin in our lives. "Intentional" is the key, or operative, word. We will still make MISTAKES (if they are really, simply and ONLY mistakes AND unintentional) even after true, full and complete conversion (infilling and complete transformation of/by the Holy Spirit), but we will NOT commit intentional sin(s). ALTHOUGH, WE WILL ALL, IF WE ARE TRUE CHRISTIANS, FEEL THAT WE FALL SHORT; AND KNOW THAT, REGARDLESS OF HAVING BEEN MADE HOLY, "....ALL OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS AS FILTHY RAGS....", AND THAT WE "....ARE POOR, WRETCHED, PITIABLE, BLIND AND NAKED...."
That's the kind of True Humility we've GOT to have. The Apostle Paul, and all of the other Apostles, felt that they fell short and were not "good enough" for heaven, even though they were made completely holy at the time of receiving the Holy Spirit, and were (/are) good enough, ONLY BY THE GRACE AND POWER OF THE LORD JESUS THE CHRIST.
In other words, our sins are not just "covered", in the sense that continued sin is in any way(s) excused, but our PAST sins, before the synonomous terms of "converstion", "justification", etc., have taken place, are covered. We've got to stop ALL of the sins, which we CAN do by the grace and power of Jesus the Christ ("....human effort aligned with divine power...."), or they are NOT covered.
"....Be perfect, EVEN AS your Father in heaven is perfect...." God would not say this, and say in other places that we CAN be made perfect NOW, if we could not be, and/or He could not make us so. HE CAN; and, as I said earlier, HE WILL, if we truly want ONLY True Christianity, and ONLY on His terms, the ONLY WAY it can be successful, not only on our own terms like most fraudulent- , counterfeit- "Christians" do. Most professed-"Christians" are NOT going to make it, and are NOT going to be saved, because they ARE living a lie and living in a counterfeit, false "Christian" fantasy world. They've just exchanged one worldly, evil fantasy world for another; but we've GOT TO come to ONLY live in God's and Jesus the Christ's reality, PERIOD. Holiness NOW, or we will not be saved and make it to heaven.
Please remember that MOST (99.99% of) professed-"Christians" are counterfeit, believing and teaching lies about God's Christianity, and living a lie; so please don't let ANYONE tell you that you supposedly can't stop sinning, and talk you into believing an ultimate in lies that you will supposedly be saved IN your sins, or while still committing intentional sin(s) in your life. You will NOT. And you CAN overcome sin by the Grace and Power of the Lord Jesus the Christ alone, NOW.
Also, please remember those verses I quoted a couple of days ago from Revelation: 21:7-8 and 22:14-15. And I would add now that verse which is above, or not far before, those verses in Revelation 22: It is written, thus says the Lord [God in Jesus the Christ, the Word(s) of God]...." Jesus will say at the judgment(s), "(They) who are unjust, let (them) be unjust still: and (they) who are filthy, let (them) be filthy still: and (they) who are righteous, let (them) be righteous still: AND (THOSE) WHO ARE HOLY, LET (THEM) BE HOLY STILL...." "....Let those who have ears to hear (the ability to truly understand this correctly), hear what the (Holy) Spirit says to the (people)...." (Revelation 22:11; and Revelation 2:7, etc.; emphasis added by me.)
The opposite is also true, that God will also say, 'Those who are UNholy, let them remain UNholy still'; and NO ONE who is unholy is going to be saved into heaven.
Another thing the counterfeit majority of so-called "Christians" falsely teach is that we will supposedly only be made holy at "glorification", and/or at the second coming of Jesus the Christ; but, if we are not already PREVIOUSLY made completely holy in Jesus the Christ, and thereby PRE-pared for heaven, we will NOT be entering into heaven AT ALL, will be forever lost, and will be completely destroyed along with the rest of all unholy, unrighteous, evil people.
Wherefore, please do not believe the lies, of which the foregoing verses in Revelation, Chapters 21 and 22 speak, that false, fraudulent, counterfeit, so-called "Christianity" and "Christians", who are unfortunately and very sadly in the majority, teach(es).
Kretzin.
What's so normal about suggesting 911 was an inside job?
Even though it's true, the so called "normal" people still
think it is crazy.
In fact, there was a time not so long ago, when a bunch
of so called "normal people" all believed that the world
was flat!
And the people who said it was round were first called
crazy (CONSPIRACY THEORISTS).
Just for your information, Princess Diana was quoted
as referring to the Windsors as "Those Lizards".
And even more strange is a new book that has just
been released entitled "The Dragons Legacy", written
by PRINCE NICOLAS DE VERE VON DRAKENBERG in which
he describes the "Dragon gene" of his, and other royal
families bloodlines. This special gene is present to a
greater or lesser degree in those found to posses it.
It has been analyzed in a lab, and found to be NOT
OF HUMAN ORIGINS by scientists.
Isn't it a little strange that Satan is referred to as a
serpent, or a Dragon in the Bible so many times?
And according to the Bible, Satan's children were
sown into the earth by him, to live and dwell among
us, until the time of the end. Jesus called them the
"TARES". Jesus also chastised the Pharisees calling
them "ye serpents, ye brood of vipers".
Perhaps there is something to all of this. I don't think
we should laugh at peoples ideas until they can be
proven wrong, beyond doubt.
The truth Movement might be in trouble if more of these types of stories get out.
No Planes Theory
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=201&
Itemid=50
It is possible but not likely.
Here is a follow up to that theory also:
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=202&
Itemid=50
Oh, and Kretzin-
Before you jump the gun and downgrade other conspiracy
theorists, you should remember that "normal" people
look at the stuff your saying as crazy.
"CONTEMPT PRIOR TO INVESTIGATION"
Gabriel Alan King | 04.16.07 - 3:47 pm | #
You are wrong. There is a huge difference between "crazy" and reasonable thought.
People that are uninformed will be more willing to listen to reasonable thought and
perhpas debate. Crazy will just continue to justify their behavior by what is going on
in their own heads.
And people will cross the street when they see you, while you call them a "zombie."
I, being, a "conspiracy theorist" would be among them avoiding you.
But then that would just prove you right, right?
Mark vs Fetzer is a great example. Fetzer was using "reasonable thought" to discuss
something "crazy." Mark Dice was just being crazy, period. And I don't even really
care for either one of them. Just an objective observation.
"Normal" people cannot relate to "crazy," therefore they will not listen to them. And
the vicious cycle just feeds itself.
I am almost certain that the REAL reason for Imus being fired is that he said and I personally saw it live on his MSNBC program at approximately 5:30 am about 5-6weeks ago, that Bush and Cheney "are war criminals, and should be hung"! He said this twice in the span of about 2 minutes. This was in the time frame of all the info coming out about the Walter Reed scandal in which he was having guests on and he was making comments about how horrible this scandal is as well as how horrible and unnecessary this whole war is! I thought at the time that he made these comments, that he is absolutely right, but the establishment is going to hang him for telling the truth live on the air!
The British Government has called for Nazi-style mental health leglislation which legalises the imprisonment of those deemed to have "personality disorders" even if they have not committed a crime.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_po...ics/
6558529.stm
Please Digg this Prison Planet article about the Gun Ban that Disarmed Virginia Students..
http://digg.com/politics/
Campus_...irginia_Victims
Amen, Tim M.!
....And why our friendship is so important ON PAGE
10 too!
See you there, darn you! And everyone:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...aderComments10/
ONLY True Peace,
With all due respect to the families that lost loved ones today at Viginia Tech, I thought that was so cool when Alex hauled out his 357 Magnum 7 shot on air today. Made something click in me (no pun intended).
Well, YOU learn something new every day too! lol
Now go over to Page 10, Girl!
Otherwise, we'll miss you too much over there!
WE ARE living in a nightmare. This is why our friendship here is so important.
RE:
VERY GOOD, Marcianne, no patronizing intended!
Really, it is super-good that you quoted that
verse! I needed reminding of it too. Keep THAT
kind of thing up! Love ya.
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Honestly; I never read that verse from Revealation until today.
I though of a good way to pass messages for the truth. Here it is:
MONEYBLOGGING!
WRITE the MESSAGE on DOLLARS!
9/11 Inside Job!, IMPEACH BUSH!, or whatever.
You write it nicely on the edges so not to disfigure the bill. According to the law, it is illegal to render a dollar bill unusable. But writing on the edges still makes to bill usable... so legal.
Pass the message and write it down... then pay for your stuff with the best mass distributed media of all time.
START MONEYBLOGGING TODAY!
RE:
Marcianne, you are so smart and wise and you just plain rock!
impeachy | 04.16.07 - 3:42 pm | #
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You are very kind.
Thanks impeachy, now thats enough.
I have been around the block a few times.
I have been here a while.
Sometimes wishing it was a bad dream.
Why did the US government order 500 fully functional brand new guillotines from Japan in the mid 1990's?
Because they make good knife blade steel. At low cost..............
In response to Michael D., as most of you very
possibly already know, P.P. hasn't changed the
link (last time I checked a little bit ago) from linking
to Page 9 of this forum to Page 10 yet, but the
following is one of things I posted on Michael D's
expanded Page 7, FYI (because he's right):
"....(E)ven though P.P. hasn't changed the link
yet from linking to Page 9, Page 10 appears to
be, quite a bit, already open for "business", as
quite a few people have and are already
commenting there. 'See' you there!"
Seriously, I "second" Micheal D's emotion: Let's
join the action on Page 10 and leave this screwed
up page behind:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...aderComments10/
Cheers,
Oh, and Kretzin-
Before you jump the gun and downgrade other conspiracy
theorists, you should remember that "normal" people
look at the stuff your saying as crazy.
"CONTEMPT PRIOR TO INVESTIGATION"
Man guys I feel like we are living in a nightmare!
VERY GOOD, Marcianne, no patronizing intended!
Really, it is super-good that you quoted that
verse! I needed reminding of it too. Keep THAT
kind of thing up! Love ya.
Truth speaks louder than words.... In other words,
the Word(s) of God are where the Power is, not in
our words. That's why *I* quote God's Word(s)
so much. You can't go wrong with God's Almighty
Power, even if some don't want to hear it, or see
it quoted. God tells it like it is, without fail!!!!!
Are you ready for the worst people? The satanists
are about to "slice and dice" us, literally. First the
camps, then....
ONLY True Peace,
Kretzkin:The saddest Part, I have a hardcover note pad I write quotes in. I entered this one, good stuff, you say many things I do.
I "hate" the New World Order. (HATE CRIME)
I am angry, and I feel that I may have "hostile intent"
CALL THE THOUGHT POLICE! QUICKLY!
I am totally desensitized. And who could blame me?
How could you not be desensitized after learning
about all the shit they are getting away with?
I really couldn't give a shit about another schoolyard
or office shooting. People had better wake the fuck
up to what is really going on, or were gonna have
ALOT more than that to worry about.
Marcianne, you are so smart and wise and you just plain rock!
RE:
Why did the US government order 500 fully functional brand new guillotines from Japan in the mid 1990's?
Anybody know more.
Support canine enfranchisement!!
Fard El Kalb, The Destroyer | Homepage | 04.16.07 - 1:31 am | #
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Revealation 20:4 I saw thrones on which were
seated those who had been given authority to
judge. And I saw the souls of those who had
been beheaded because of their testimony for
Jesus and because of the word of God. They had
not worshiped the beast or his image and had not
received his mark on their foreheads or their
hands.
I hope this answers your question.
Marcianne | 04.16.07 - 3:15 pm | #
RE:
Why did the US government order 500 fully functional brand new guillotines from Japan in the mid 1990's?
Anybody know more.
Support canine enfranchisement!!
Fard El Kalb, The Destroyer | Homepage | 04.16.07 - 1:31 am | #
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Revealation 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands.
I hope this answers your question.
Hi Yeah I said yesterday I was going out to get a new gun.We better get them before we can't anymore.I havn't gone anywhere yet cuz I am listening to Alex.
RE:
As I have mentioned before, simply by being a citizen as we are required to be, in active and persistent defense of our born rights and priviliges, we can defeat what is happening.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.16.07 - 11:46 am | #
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Kretzkin:
There are probably readers here, who need to be educated about the requirements of a citizen.
I say this with all due respect.
You have the floor. Use your soapbox if needed.
Thanks.
I was on the CBS website earlier promoting Alex's view on the shooting this am. I was really surprised at how many people on there realized that gun control is not the answer to this.
When I was in college I must have had a miserable look on my face on the first day I showed up at the dorms. A girl asked me out of the blue, "Do you have guns?" I was so shocked I said "Yes". They called the SWAT team on me.
Well, we don't have a right to harass, annoy, and obstruct without consequence. If you are not going
to be respectful of people going about their business, then you SHOULD (and will) be turned away....
Activism with attitude may be entertaining to those that already agree with you, but isn't the point to
get the message to those that do not? Not to entertain and "score" among your "truther" friends?
::exits soapbox::
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.16.07 - 11:31 am | #
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The activism I have been involved with has for the most part, been peaceful. My participation goes back before Roe vs. Wade.
I have observed the idiots out there. They are loud, and they are there to distrupt.
There are many ways that one can be active in informing the "public" in a civil manner.
Each person has to decide for themselves how to go about that.
Last week, I did choose to post some small, colorful signs on utility poles, stating my view.
For me, it felt good to post info in public view, with the possibility
that someone would respond. I will admit that some were pulled down in 2 days. It's all good.
I also want to present a 9/11 video at the Library. There, people can voluntarily attend.
I agree Kretzkin, that our message appears to be getting lost in the clamor.
I think that some of us,probably a lot of us, after gaining so much insight into our "State of the State",
are very frustrated! We have had it!
And Dammit we are not going to take anymore!
Citizenship went out of fashion a long time ago.
It's every man for himself now. (tongue-in-cheek)
Sometimes I feel like I have all this 9/11 knowledge, and no where to go. This board, this site, most of the
Truth sites, have become "comfort food".
There will always be division, within a large group.
People are activists and protestors on their own terms.
There are no set rules or boundaries. Some will come to know the truth via a bullhorn. Some will budge after watching a video.
Such is life.
Peace my friend,
Yah I know Bill Maher is a dumbass. it's just at one point I thought he was as bad as Bill O'Reilly. Maher's pro-war stance IS really disturbing.
Virginia school shooting Alex says may be black op!
One simple thing we can all do to support Ron Paul 2008 is to simply type in "President 2008 Ron Paul" into google, yahoo and some other search engines 10 to 20 times a day
This will keep him high in the searches regarding the election. Best of all is that this applies to foreign nationals as well.
"I'm surprised that prisonplanet.com is not picking up on the IMUS / 9/11 angle yet as reported by Pravda and drudgereport.
Just that fact that IMUS threatened to reveal the truth about 9/11 is evidence of a coverup".
*Ahem*
"In a related development, the Drudge Report also picked up a Pravda story that suggested recently fired talk show host Don Imus was the victim of an orchestrated demonization campaign because he was about to reveal "secrets" about 9/11. Imus' ignorant comments about a predominantly black women's basketball team are being used as a justification to chill free speech by barring anyone else from exercising the right to make controversial statements.
There is no substance to this story and it appears to be a deliberate hoax on behalf of a well-known disinformation outlet to muddy the waters of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Readers of 9/11 Blogger carefully combed through Podcasts of Imus' shows in which he is alleged to have made the comment, but came up with a blank. Imus never made this statement and one has to seriously question the motives of someone to completely concoct this nonsense out of thin air".
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
arti...7strikeback.htm
I bet if you released a S"Silent Fart" next to Al Sharpton...he would accept the blame for it...he WOULD. He's that credible.
I'm surprised that prisonplanet.com is not picking up on the IMUS / 9/11 angle yet as reported by Pravda and drudgereport.
Just that fact that IMUS threatened to reveal the truth about 9/11 is evidence of a coverup.
Am I the only one that sees the temptation for melodramatics in "conspiracy theories?"
Am I the only one that sees how easy it is for us to take it too far and ruin the truth?
Am I alone in the observation that we are conciously molding OURSELVES into the stereotypes given to us? I mean look at the ads here, rense.com, etc...
We have become a "market" that has been categorized, labeled, and fitted.
The truth, honesty, and integrity are all getting lost in all of this. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one that thinks that is still important.
I am not a "conspiracy nut" and reject the stereotype. You do not have to fit this mold to open your eyes and see what is happening. And it isn't shape-shifting lizards from the planet Gorzon with laser beam eyes.
As I have mentioned before, simply by being a citizen as we are required to be, in active and persistent defense of our born rights and priviliges, we can defeat what is happening.
I came to prisonplanet.com because this is the closest I have found to like-minded people, even those I cannot agree with. What is happening WITH us is of great concern to me.
I need to speak out about something that has been troubling me as of late. Many here will probably
not agree with me without giving it some great thought. My first and foremost objective is to be
honest, so here it is:
Current activist strategy appears to go out and inflict themselves about an entirely inappropriate
situation to provoke a response from authorities. Then when they respond, they want to point out
that their response is some sort of proof of a government-wide effort to hush them up. They
are sure to have their cameras rolling in EAGER anticipation of the response to their actions. In some
cases, it is obvious that editing was done to hide some of their actions that might have provoked the
level of reaction. This is propaganda, just propaganda WE agree with.
A rose by any other name...
Well, we don't have a right to harass, annoy, and obstruct without consequence. If you are not going
to be respectful of people going about their business, then you SHOULD (and will) be turned away.
I watch these amatuer "truther" videos where the barker tries to get his message out, and when
people don't take to it like they would hope, they call them "zombies," poke fun at them, say
they are stupid, etc...
You CAN'T bludgeon the "truth" into people and expect them to respond kindly. The common man is
not the enemy. If you provoke, you deserve the response. In the name of what we claim to want
to acheive here, we MUST start calling our own to task for this behavior. To say the ends justify
the means is no different than our enemy's idealogy. We MUST present a more attractive and
comfortable ideology if we expect others to want to join. If they see derision and division among us,
who can blame them from walking to the other side of the street when they see us?
Not everything is a conspiracy, and not EVERY single employee of the government is in on it.
It makes me sick to my stomach to watch the monster WE have become. We MUST not let it continue.
Activism with attitude may be entertaining to those that already agree with you, but isn't the point to
get the message to those that do not? Not to entertain and "score" among your "truther" friends?
::exits soapbox::
By the way we should all get off computers and do the same-time is of the essence here.
I will be busy today printing flyers and going to best buy to get a better burner!
GOING TO DO A MASSIVE AWAKENING THIS WEEK!
Sorry that should of said muderers
Hi everyone!
Today I read on prisonplanet that ROSIE is not done with these murders!
HOPE IS ALIVE!
The saddest part of all this is that in 40-50 years, it will be common knowledge that our government
orchestrated these attacks. People will look on it and say "what a terrible thing, sure, but of course our
'present' government would never do that. That
was in the past." Just like we do now with events
like pearl harbor, gulf of tonkin, USS Maine, etc...
Most will accept that it happened and our government did it, but not until after the perps are too dead to hold them accountable.
We will sleep easy at night believing it was limited to only this administration and not our government overall.
9/11 will simply be a footnote in history, but not a lesson of any significance.
That is the saddest part for me.
Now, the pentagon, while I still believe it was a
plane, I can come up with one valid argument.
The Amazing Kretzkin | 04.16.07 - 7:36 am | #
I should also mention that since I work on black boxes, I have a lot of faith
in the data recovered from them. Now, I don't have access to the raw data
if what the pilotsfor911truth say are true, it is very good evidence that the
plane did not hit the pentagon. WHAT happened to it after that, I don't know.
The last video given by the government of the pentagon attack clearly
shows a plane come in, strike light poles, and crash into the building,
with the amount of time they have had, they could have (and probably did)
faked it. But at face value, it does show the events as they stated.
BTW, in the beginning of all this, there was reported
evidence that people were diverted from their flights
to the flights involved in the impacts and that the
planes were way under capacity (as well as one of
the flights not even being scheduled that day. )
This is the stuff we need to go back to and look at.
Perhaps the disinformation has been THAT successful
that nobody is really talking about THIS VERY STRONG
EVIDENCE anymore, and instead we have these way
more far-fetched theories dominating the discussions.
As I've said before, people were carefully selected,
all aspects of it included people intended to die for sure
(this isn't including the people in the towers.) The planes
were remote controlled. The crew and passengers
were knocked out on the flights. WTC7 was meant to
be hit as well (it housed lots of embarassing things for the government),
but something went wrong. Perhaps the knockout gas didn't deploy properly? So they had to
shoot it down? Remember the reports about Flight 93
supposedly set for landing in OH?
I think if we go back to the roots of this, we will have
a MUCH clearer picture of what happened. This new
"fringe" theory stuff reaks of disinfo and "hey, listen
to me, I got something new,fresh, and exclusive"
style of self-aggrandizing. You, know to keep people
"entertained."
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 04.16.07 - 7:23 am | #
I agree with what you are saying overall, but
honestly, it would be easier, less risky, and
generate more "genuine" eyewitnesses to just
slam the airliners into the building, then use
controlled demolition to bring them down. I just
can't think of ONE reasonable reason why they
would need to fake this part. To NOT really kill
people in planes? Do you really believe they
cared?
Now, the pentagon, while I still believe it was a
plane, I can come up with one valid argument.
They obviously wanted to carefully control that
incident. They recently added fortification to that
side of the building, and it was relatively vacated.
The plane approached the side with the top brass
in it originally, but then circled around and hit that
side. When I saw that on the day of the attacks,
it set off huge alarm bells. Possibly a fake plane
there, simply because it would be too difficult to
predict the exact damage that would occur with
an actual airliner.
all im saying is
if we at the truth 911 movement entertain
that the perps can controll 911 for 7 years after they clearly
did the entire thing
it is not that much of a stretch to hypothesize if and how they may have used far more sophisticated planning
and technology than we give ourselves credit for
again
no matter what did or didnt happen
i watched the interviews as they happened
they are scripted, they were going to tell us
"commercial passenger jets hit the bldgs"
before the jets or whatever ever hit anything
they have teams and teams of scientists, psyops, double and tripple agents
they could do it
they may have done it
they did alot
i wouldnt put any thing past them
9/11 report says building 7 collapsed due to fire... an obvious lie... this puts the entire official report under suspect.
and by the way mark dice
i love ya bro
but im sorry to inform you
i investigate more than the "no french toast theory"
i will research
michael tsarion, jordon maxwell, jim marrs
i will even admit
i really like the work that david icke does
so buttons on yur underware
my rearch has no man made limitations
God talks about serpents in the garden
Enoch talks about the watchers and fallen angels
daniel decribes unidetified stuff?
hosts of heaven
coming out of the clouds
etc...etc...etc...
book of jasher?
flying stones of nan-madol
tunnels and cities way beneath the great pyramids?
deep underground military bases
the disclosure project?
mark dice
we love ya buddy
but it just sounded bad to do your radio show like that and
argue the way you did
sounds bad dude
you sound just like the nwo spin machine
hey mark dice
check out 911 octopus
or
911tvfakery
AAA the real A! A! f.t.n.w.o | 04.16.07 - 6:47 am | #
If these prove anything, it is that it is easy to
fake "fake" no-planes videos and an experiment
to show that video evidence alone cannot be
trusted.
There just isn't ANY traction in the "no-planes"
theories, but I encourage "research" into any
possibility.
anne coulter is a twisted sister
chris
what is understood need not be discussed
unless you are here
then
we welcome you and your perfected views however imperfect they may or may not be
rant and feel safe
you are among fellow rants
God Bless
read the bible kjv
then research everything on alex jones sites
including but not limited to:
mike ruppert, cynthia mckinney, devvy kidd, william cooper, phil schneider
greg papst, greenwald,, ted gunderson, john decamp, kathy obrien, texe marrs, michael heiser, bill schnoeblen, david carrico, chuck missler
larry p. mcdonald, james forrestall, jfk
federal reserve act, taxes, nat. sec. act, ruby ridge, waco, okc, 911, afgnstn, iraq
freedom to fascism, iraq for sale, outfoxxed, jfkii, money masters, riddles in stone, terror storm
police state 1&2, rules of engagement, bohemian grove, clinton chronicles, loose change
911 octopus, big easy (katrina), H.A.A.R.P., L.U.C.I.D., MKULTRA,
nephilim, committee of 300
that list should get you on the right track, im sure there are many other reference sources
but this is a great way to begin every day
*Hostile intent, now thats a real mind teaser, isn't it.
Sounds to me like an Elite little Phycso who sent his armed forces and bombers to Iraq and blew up six hundred thousand civilians was with hostile intentt.AHH. But being above the law gives ya that edge, just think, you and your freinds can make billions, create your own little circle of power and control the pissant peons, and the conclusion is it's the pissants money and blood you use, not yours.
Tid bit, Nazarath in Christs time were Essenes, theJews didn"t like them to much because they didnt kill animals for sacrifice, or eat meat, among other things.But they did not break the Jewish laws and have the all powerfull Sanhedrin on their back. They had labels too.
FEAR.FEAR. , I mention that becasue i feel that it the tool of these Elitists with the cutting edge. I cannot for the life of me distinguish wether or not it is my hatred of parrasitic fungeses that feed off us, isnt mixed in with a little fear.But you know what it is,its being controled and knowing im my heart I can not stomach the thought. That one day I may have to be surrounded by Feds, and other lakeys of the Gov. and have to look at them, and explain to them I could be with Hostile Intent. That I detest with my soul the regime running whats left of our America. So my solution would be, shoot me now and get it over with, but they will never get my soul.
I truly beleive they want to identify each and every indivual who is not their loyal subject. Then the labels start, hostile intent, enemy sympathisers, home grown terrorists, subversives, rabble rousers. Un American, etc. Oh ya, conspiracy theorists almost forgot that one. and how I hate that label, its degrading.
I ranted, and now I feel better, ya know I feel kind of privledged that I can post on here and be understood.
Friedman a "neolib"? I don't think so, Nimmo.
hey mark dice
check out 911 octopus
or
911tvfakery
they have their arguements for the "no french toast theory"
if i were ther and i said:
"i saw the french toast butter into the building"
and a camera crew took my interview
then that would mean that french toast buttered into the bldg
oh contrair monfrair
we have been lied to
i will give these satanic liars no credit
everything that comes form them is a complete lie
no truth in them
just like their father
the father oif lies
i wont believe that passenger airliners hit anything until God shows me the real video
this is our fkd up page
there are many like it
but this one is ours
RE: Mr Wolfowitz as "a very dedicated public servant".
AH HA HA HA HA, public servant my ass !
Funny, no, fuck this fucked up page. Brand new spankin' clean, go!
TIM: Please shorten your sentences!!!!!!!! Use the enter key. Marcianne | 04.16.07 - 5:57 am | #
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Wahahahahahahaha. Sorry. lol. I've always had a problem with run on sentences. Funny, because in person, I'm quiet as a mouse.
wow
old john conner has a wierd radio show?
funny
i had never heard his radio stuff before
i have a thread of my investigation that leads to
no plane theory?
there is compelling evidences that would denote
the possibility that the perps did have a masterfully crafted, pre-disposed plan that very well could have included video feeds, video manipulations, pre-produced archives of video footage, high tech video enhanced footage, stealth video technology etc..., etc...
some of the finest arguements on the web are the hypothesis that there were "no commercial airliners"
here's what i think?
they scripted 911 down to the smallest tittle long before they ever started planting thermate and demolition explosives in the 3 bldgs
they moved the chesspieces around for years orchestrating their symphony of evil
they manipulated all players and all playing fields many months before 911-2001
they took every science, every psychological aspect into concideration
they black bag budgeted every detail down to the costumes, the actors, the script, the footage, the technical data, the media control, the world wide press etc...
when the first bomb went off in the first tower, they had a perfected second by second damage control grid in place, tripple amd quadruple layers of disinformation ready to deploy to firmly grip the entire unfolding event in their iron fist grip
no matter what did or didnt hit the building/ they had the script that the passenger jets was "the official story"
and the rest is sequential history
mark dice? please tell us youre ok, cuz it sounds rrreeeeaaalllll bad on that interview
i love all mark dice does, but that interview is wierd
maybe innocent mark dice just trying honestly to try to preserve the truth movement in a sincere sence
but it sounds bad what he does on that interview
im sorry
it sounds bad
lol, that's funny Mike.
Yah. The way that Fetzer stood up for himself with Dice makes me think that he's exploring the no plane and classified beam weapon theories simply because they are questions arising from photos and videos that have shown up on the internet. If you look at his site, it is a complete list of possibilities. There is nothing wrong with asking these questions as long as you don't jump to conclusions. I think everyone of us has done that from time to time. Hopefully the people who care about us, and 9/11 truth, snap us back to reality. What disturbed me about Fetzer's site tho is how little he seems to refer to Alex and Terrorstorm and the Watsons. Maybe I just feel that way because I'm a big Alex fan, because there are a lot of other great videos out there that helped me to confirm my beliefs from what i learned thru Alex. I just think Terrorstorm is one of the best and Alex, the true pioneer.
This page is deffinately fucked up.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...ts7%20/?
a=27983
Try this new one
BTW, the tools and techniques I used are the same tools I used to find english speaking voices at the end of the Nick Berg beheading video. Some others noted it as well, but not much came of it. I have some pretty clear recordings of it on a CD around here somewhere.
I became familiar with them while researching EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena.)
Anyone know the source of the Resistance Manifesto theme ("Is anybody out there?")
The reason I ask is that I kept hearing something in it, and decided to run it through some filtering.
There is a voice in the background that almost registers on the subliminal level. The clearest phrase I could find was "to serve and to protect."
Perhaps benign, most likely in the sourced original, but now I am curious. I am going to do some more filtering to see what else is there, if anything.
Wolf:
Sorry, I have not got back to the email issue yet.
TIM:
Please shorten your sentences!!!!!!!!
Use the enter key.
Actually that site I just posted supports the no plane theory. But the other evidence they compiled on that particular page looks reasonable.
God, Mark was a 100% complete dick with those sound effect playing over Fetzer's voice during that interview, V. Otherwise, who knows what's up with Fetzer. All I know is when I looked at some of those no plane videos, they did look fake. There was definitely a lot of time put into making exact computer graphic copies of real videos but taking small things out and putting things in to argue that there were no planes. Probably ops made them to discredit the movement. They were very sophisticated copies. Even I could see that. And investigating this is very important in proving that they are fake. I thought that Fetzer made sense in saying that everything needs to be investigated before we can say anything, because when an average person asks about something they have seen on the internet regarding 9/11 truth, there need to be researched answers. There needs to be investigated proof that the no plane videos were in fact faked to discredit 9/11 Truth and distract from what really happened. Someone out there was asked to make these videos. Would be nice to find them. More than that, and is Fetzer an op I don't know. I'll try to find some no plane vids to look at just out of interest.
Timm | 04.16.07 - 4:21 am | #
I agree. I've never been a fan of Mark (aka John Conners.) He is extremely childish, unbelievably childish as is evident in that interview.
Like you, I do not agree with the "no planes" or "space beams" theory, but I think Fetzer is actually being intellectually reasonable in this interview. If you listen carefully, it is clear that he is just saying the theory cannot be so easily discredited.
With that said, he is making a mistake by letting people focusing him on it. The tactic is that the theory becomes associated with him because he is being forced to defend it when he is not "defending" it per se.
To be honest, Mark Dice seems to be the one with the agenda here.
Compilation of 9/11 evidence. Seems ok at first glance.
http://www.911closeup.com/index....dex.shtml?
ID=50
As well, there a social networking add-on called Daisy for the Firefox browser (and probably others too) that when you visit a website in Firefox you can talk to other people who are using Daisy while visiting that site too. Don't know how good it is. I like commenting tho because it leaves a record of what we say for ourselves and for others. Networking might be nice sometimes tho.
I am in the process of setting up a talker and web hosting domain. The talker will allow real time chat, personal messages, private rooms, bulletin board, and psuedo email. Levels of access can be controlled and some mechanics are in place to keep it somewhat moderated.
I have used the talkers before, but this is going to be my first attempt at running one.
A talker is similar to a private IRC (internet relay chat). The advantage over IRC is that since it can be private, membership can be controlled a bit as well as the content and experience customized.
Talkers require a program to telnet into it. It is a lot like old-school BBS'. There are several programs designed to enhance the experience of a talker. GMUD32 is the one I am most familar with, but here is a list of some other programs:
http://eclipse.talkernet.net/
Con...Connecting.html
(note: the above link is not my talker)
Hopefully, this will give us all a chance to chat in real time.
I have done the initial set up of the account, but need to wait a day or two for the reigns to be handed over. Once everything is ready, I will post the details here.
The provider will be http://www.dune.net
You can read more about talkers here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talker
Kretzkin
Yeah Timm,
Mark was kind of being an idiot with those stupid sound effects. Jim Fetzer does deserve more respect than that. I think Mark Dice want to do Jim like how O'riely, Hannity and those other neo-Con jerks did him when he was first starting out.
it wont be long before we start having the same type of riots in our streets, frickin' neo cons want it that way... control through disorder
God, Mark was a 100% complete dick with those sound effect playing over Fetzer's voice during that interview, V. Otherwise, who knows what's up with Fetzer. All I know is when I looked at some of those no plane videos, they did look fake. There was definitely a lot of time put into making exact computer graphic copies of real videos but taking small things out and putting things in to argue that there were no planes. Probably ops made them to discredit the movement. They were very sophisticated copies. Even I could see that. And investigating this is very important in proving that they are fake. I thought that Fetzer made sense in saying that everything needs to be investigated before we can say anything, because when an average person asks about something they have seen on the internet regarding 9/11 truth, there need to be researched answers. There needs to be investigated proof that the no plane videos were in fact faked to discredit 9/11 Truth and distract from what really happened. Someone out there was asked to make these videos. Would be nice to find them. More than that, and is Fetzer an op I don't know. I'll try to find some no plane vids to look at just out of interest.
Russian newspaper Pravda, says that Imus was actually fired for threatening to address the 9/11 coverup. They say the US gov't used his racial comments as an opportunity to get him off the air before he began stirring things up:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion...mnists/89728-0/
9/11 Mysteries is number 4 all around the world in google video. In North America supposedly not in the top 100.
Hey maybe Bill O'reilly should start a reality show where he is the chairman of the board and the contestants who want to be his apprentice are real t.v. talk show hosts who win by not saying anything that he disagrees with. They could put millions of cameras up all over New York to watch their every word and as soon as somebody expresses their own ideas they can be rushed into the board room criticized severly by the other contestants and then O'Reilly gets to point at them flick his wrist and say your fired, and they really will get fired from their talk show. We could call the show the no Bill of Rights show or the Unconstitutional Apprentice.
Well, I guess I didn't get back to you fast enough,
Gabe, and you're gone; so, goodnight (all)....
You're not alone, Gabe, I'm still here (I'm a night
person at least for a while longer tonight).
Here I am on the prison planet comment site. All alone. Standing watch against the New World Order.
Sleep all ye patriots. Rest yourselves for the fight. I shall stand guard the comment page, welcoming friend,
and warding off foe.
My eagle eye stareth watchful into the pale mist stirring in the thick murky blackness.
I shall not waver, nor give rest to mine eyelids. For evil never slumbers,
as there be no rest unto the wicked.
Mark Dice VS. Jim Fetzer:
http://www.visualvendetta.com/in...d=197&
Itemid=50
Very Heated battle between Mark and Jim.
The destroyer.
I might have heard it from Mark Koernke. But I do distinctly remember that wherever I heard it, it was
not a joke.
What are they for? Let's just say I don't think that they were ordered to be used in Hollywood movies.
My best guess is that they are sitting in a wherehouse somewhere waiting to be put into service
when the regime declares Martial Law.
They are not building so many concentration camps just because they are bored.
Why did the US government order 500 fully functional brand new guillotines from Japan in the mid 1990's?
Anybody know more.
Support canine enfranchisement!!
Um, I got a confession. I just took the verichip in my right hand, and the RFID in my forehead yesterday.
Sorry gang, I sold out.
Berrie,
I believe your assumption is correct. Satan's children wear many disguises. However, it is for certain that
the aforementioned conspirators are of course identified, and guilty. It does not matter what name
the Illuminati chooses to operate under, they still serve Lucifer, and his agenda is known to us.
Satan operates freely wherever Christ is not. Many religions, cultures, and ideologies are an
"Open doorway" for the devil to manipulate the unwitting, and wreak havoc. He always begins by
appearing "well intended", or logical. Eventually sin prevails, and death is the end of it.
Good night RCF and the rest.Good night.
I just wanted to say it is so cool I have made new friends.You guys.Thanks for letting me in the mental safe house.I'll help you carry the torch.I love all u.
One last post before I crash.
I googled NO_NAU because of something kells told me.
There are people who believe the SPP is another "conspiracy theory"
If so, why did almost EVERY member of the Canadian Action Party sign it AND put the link on their site?
For the most part feedback was good and I have no regrets starting it and the negative comments were from folks who haven't done their homework.
Peace, and thanks to all who have signed.
Berrie Thanks for that link.
It has lots of info.
Marcianne I checked out the
truthaction link today.Thanks
Wolf,
Um, basically, yeah. The common folk are victimized by the institutions. I already assumed that you were
aware of the nature of the problems. I was refering to those who are unaware, and may wrongfully
interpet statements made by radio and TV personalities. I did not mean to imply that you were confused about stereotyping.
It is important that we of the patriot movement understand the danger of stereotyping. This gives
the enemy ammunition with which to confuse the ignorant, and attack those who are trying to expose
the problem. It is very tricky. As much as I hate the CIA, there have been a few good people that
have worked for the agency. Things like this make our fight all the more difficult, and hard to communicate.
I feel we understand each other. Our discussions are not in vain. They relate to the topics that lay at
the very core of our collective social consciousness. And we must seek these answers together.
The people perish for lack of knowledge. And therefore it is our duty to enlighten one another, and
continue to educate ourselves in the truth, that we may not be foolishly mislead, rather that we may
receive the honor of shepherding others unto grace.
David Rockefeller's statements:
http://www.netctr.com/exposeevil.html
>>I tend to think that Rothschilds, Rockefelllers, Builderbergers, and so on... may not be the full representation.
Marcianne,