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If the people want to stop the war, how are they supposed to do it, if not through their elected representatives? Since the Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war wouldn't it follow that it could also stop one?
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Greg....they approved the war and now they want to "change their minds" in the midst of reconstruction.
Once approved, the President is responsible for waging the war...that is how it works and a "non binding" resolution is nothing more than a political game that encourages our enemy and demoralizes our troops.
GOP will filibuster and rightly so.
That has nothing to do with Gordon Sinclair, maybe you should be posting these things to YOUR OWN blog Curveball, thanks for stopping by but you won't get any signatures from this site.
We, here, are busy trying to help the iraqi people and supporting our troops.
Have a good day.
I like the way you now call it a 'reconstruction'. It has such a nicer ring to it than 'war'.
Yes the senators signing onto this resolution have changed their minds. That's the sign of a rational person who evaluates facts and adjusts his or her actions as necessary.
Even the Republicans are losing steam for this thing because they know it will doom them in 2008.
If Hillary gets elected you will have no one to blame but yourselves.
Perhaps if you learned the proper terminology you would understand.
As an Army Chaplain based IN Iarq has explained at:
http://
armychaplain.blogspot.com...nstruction.html
Not a war, but reconstruction
One of the things I've noticed about the coverage of the war in Iraq, back in the US, is the absolutely negative way in which everything connected to it is being portrayed. This includes the media, and members of both political parties. And it comes from people who lack a very basic knowledge of the region or its people. Read this article on CNN for an example. Now, I understand that not every American knows that Al Qaeda is a Sunni organization, but shouldn't the guy who will be heading up the House Intelligence Committee know this?? Seriously... and these politicians are the ones telling us we're "losing."
What bothers me is the way that members of both parties have, a) Turned the war political, and b) Begun to talk about winning or losing in ways that we cannot. Coming back to the States for a bit, and seeing the TV coverage blows me away. What's getting lost in the mix are the Iraqis.
Let me offer a different way of thinking about this: We won the war in Iraq. Yes, past tense: we won. You see, militarily, we invaded Iraq, defeated their Army, and captured their leadership. On this point, we had a crushing and overwhelming victory. No questions about it. We did what we said we were going to do: invaded the country and deposed Saddam (remember, right before the war started, we gave Saddam 48 hours to leave office), and we inforced the weapons inspections. That was the "war." We won that.
What is happening now is the reconstruction and reconstitution of Iraq. In other words: putting it back together. We helped the Iraqis democratically elect a government. Check. We have trained and Army and Police Force. Check. The problem is that the government and military of Iraq are not doing a good job. That is the point on which things are failing. We have to stop thinking about this phase as winning or losing a war.
Over the past two years, we had one political party (the Democrats) pretending that nothing was going right over there, and we had the other political party (the Republicans) pretending that everything was going right over there. (In other words, BOTH are to blame) In the meantime, the Iraqis get hurt by our own self-obsession.
Things are failing because we have been so self-focused that we have failed to stop and ask "what do we need to do to improve the situation?" We have sat and argued about pre-war intelligence, about whether we should call it a civil war or not, about whether the Iraq war is part of the greater war on terror or a separate war, etc. In the meantime, we seem to have forgotten about.... the Iraqis.
What I find interesting about the Iraq Study Group report- which works under the assumption that we're "losing"- is that the people who seem to object to the report the most are the Iraqis. The reason: I think they see that America is getting bored, and is getting ready to leave them in a precarious position. It's kind of like a mother having a baby, and wondering why the baby isn't full grown after three years, and deciding that the best option would be to send the baby off on his own.
I wonder if we have the virtuous resolve to complete our committments, even when they turn out to be more difficult than we first believed?
Maybe people should try to learn what the words MEAN....
Toppling Saddam WAS the war....NOW Iraq is undergoing reconstruction.
http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree....ion- stupid.html
You can call it what you want but as long as our soldiers are being killed I'll call it a war.
Nice debating with you- good night.
People eating an orange and deciding they will call it an apple can also do so....only makes them appear uneducated like they do not know the difference between an orange and an apple.
For your info.... OUR reconstruction lasted 12 yrs and was THE BLOODIEST TIMEin our history......like with Iraq, that came AFTER the civil war.
For greg, from Todays Wapo article from the Democrat.....Steny Hoyer:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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He added, "Now, given the gross miscalculations by the administration in prosecuting the war and handling the reconstruction effort, and given the spiraling violence in Iraq, one can understand the enormous bipartisan skepticism about the president's escalation proposal on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and across the nation."
Notice the words Hoyer used...RECONSTRUCTION EFFORT.
They know what it is.... they simply rarely admit it as Hoyer just did.
Apparently the "Decider in Chief" didn't get the memo about the new name Spree:
From the SOTU:
'This is not the fight we entered in Iraq, but it is the fight we're in. Every one of us wishes this war were over and won.'
ahhhhh, but HOYER certainly HAS!!!!!!!!!!(see comment above with Hoyers QUOTE calling it reconstruction.
As much as I like Bush, I never claimed he was mensa....hehe
Busy working today as well as getting a few additional posts out, so feel free to comment among yourselves,but a girl HAS to pay bills, therefore I have to get my work done and my blog updated.
I generally enjoy the debates, but no time today for them...sorry and talk amongst yourselves.
Have a good weekend Spree!
Greg
Thanks, you too!!
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