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I still find it EXTREMELY odd that suddenly we're declaring victory in Iraq. I mean, I thought we WON a long time ago. I'm not sure why now Bush suddenly wants to claim victory...
I guess dislike of America shares a lot of common ground with many these days. But you know, many for the first time in their life are proud of America now!
I had not seen the news about WMDs. I am angry that this has not been widely publicized. Here in the US and all over the world. Bush, and therefore the US, was scorned because there were no WMDs found in Iraq, but when “yellow-cake” is found, no one peeps a squeak.
The “world”, with the exception of some of our best allies, let us go it alone in Iraq. America has sacrificed our future and the future of our children funding the war in Iraq. Thousands of lives have been lost and thousands upon thousands of soldiers wounded. Thousands of allies’ soldiers have been lost and wounded. Thousands of Iraqis have lost their lives. A great deal of sacrifice has been made for Iraq, and the improvements our media “allows” us to see are bittersweet but the media wants us to think we have lost in Iraq. It benefits them having us believe that we should not have been there in the first place because there were no WMD found and that America was wrong thereby disappointing to the rest of the world.
But…they can’t seem to bring themselves to make a big deal out of the uranium. This irks me beyond recognition!
And why do YOU think it is Angry? Please tell us.
Jodie - We have hardly uncovered the amount of WMDs that we were told existed. Remember - Saddam was an immediate threat that had to be neutralized. I still haven't seen anything that backs up that theory...
I believe we "won" the day that Baghdad fell and Saddam was no longer in authority. I have no idea why suddenly victory was claimed. Hell, I don't even know what THIS definition of victory is. I'm sure it has something to do with politics...
When Bush said Mission Accomplished, THAT was the day we won the Iraq War.
Angry,
No one expects you to acknowledge that enough uranium to make in excess of 100 nuclear bombs is not an immedate threat. I guess you wanted to wait until the cake was baked and ready to be eaten.
I take it you are distinguishing between the war in Iraq and the insurgency that followed?
It's always about politics! And the "anti establishment america is bad" people pushing agendas!
AD, you've been told repeatedly there were more issues than the WMD. And it was not completely Bush--there are the videos out there from the DEMS stating it had to be done. There was a 23 point authorization for war--and it was voted on and approved by Congress.
You've also been told repeatedly what the "Mission Accomplished" sign meant, in full context.
Yet you are choosing to continue the lies, half truths and spin on this. I will not tolerate it.
Speak to the issue substantively or get off it--but most definitely get off the lies, spins and half truths you have been educated on repeatedly.
You're right Miss Beth, there was more than WMDs. However, I was addressing that specific part of the blog. That is what the writer discussed and how it bothered them that the media was not covering that topic.
And I don't recall ever defending the DEMS about their decision to go to war either. But as you like to say, there's more to THAT than just the authorization. EVERYONE was sold a bunch of lies. If you recall, Sen Feingold (MY senator) came out against this war and said that he did not believe there was enough evidence to show Saddam was the threat that he was. I chose to believe my senator and I still do. And I believe that time has shown him to be correct. Certainly that is up for debate and discussion.
Miss Beth, I'm bothered that you claim I'm using lies and spin. Everything that I said above was MY opinion. I said that I have not seen enough to believe Saddam was an immediate threat. In MY opinion, that was the biggest reason that the administration used to push this war.
I also stated that I was unsure why now victory was being declared. I guess I'm just unclear on what exactly victory is. In MY opinion we achieved victory a long time ago. I'm not sure why you believe that is spin or a lie. It's just my opinion...
You may be right AD, and I missed where you said it was your opinion--and you are completely correct in you are entitled to your opinion. In MY opinion, I think perhaps there is just some acknowledgment wanted that our troops have indeed won the war instead of all the negative being thrown at them. Yes, I believe we won long ago as well.
Miss Beth,
I don't believe that as a norm there is a lot of bad thrown at our troops. I think you have some fringe left-wing groups that are that way, but in general, everyone appreciates what they have done. Whether you believe in the war or not, it's hard not to support the troops. They're just doing their job. I know plenty of troops that oppose the Iraq War but have served overseas because that is their job.
What is unfortunate is that the news media has COMPLETELY stopped reporting about Iraq and that is unaccpetable. Let me rephrase that - the TV news media has stopped reporting about it. TV news is garbage and newspapers are starting to follow. You are right - more good news needs to be reported out of Iraq and Afghanistan. However, those aren't easy stories to cover - I mean, it's much easier to bring on some talking head to give his/her opinion about something than it is to send a correspondent over to Iraq and report on something.
And on this point AD, we can (ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww--lol) TOTALLY agree.
certaimly it is very apparent that as the Iraq situation is becoming Stable.. that WMD's were found, that Plame and her Idiot husband lied.. the Troll heads of MSM.. cbs..nbc.. abc.. etc.. shifted their attention to creating alove fest foe Benny and Michelle.. in a few month they'll probabvly turn on them like vicious attack rats if Benny becomes a Centrist instead of the flaming Libtard whom they want
Victory in Iraq Day was declared for - at least - 2 reasons:
One: The benchmarks set have been met
Two: If we wait for the media or the Dems to acknowledge the progress made, it will be a frosty day in hell.
Also notice it is Victory in IRAQ Day. Nobody with any savvy is claiming that the GLOBAL war against terrorism is over. It isn't, and won't be for a LONG time. However, in the IRAQ theatre, the benchmarks have been met.
I am not gonna get into the WMD argument again. Anyone with half a brain cell knows the facts of that. Pity the media chose to ignore them.
However, to say the war is based on lies, is also a LIE! 
Apart from everything else, Iraq (Saddam) ignored MANY UN Resolutions. IF we had all waited, we could probably STILL be passing UN Resolutions and wringing our hands and STILL terrorists would be killing their own in Iraq.
And, yes, US politicians DID vote to go in, to authorise American troops into Iraq. For them to deny that now, is beyond disingenuous.
That's pretty much all I have to say for now.
*But don't email me, Miss Beth.*
CARRY ON!
Oh and I meant "dont email me, Miss Beth" because I am STILL fighting with my server, who seem to be unable to solve the mystery of the missing inbox contents.
I emailed you all on that this morning...lol.
Miss Beth - it hurts when you have to do that (agree with a democrat), doesn't it?!
brat - I won't argue with you about the benchmarks and if they have been met or not. I'm not picking this fight because I have a feeling it'll get me kicked off this blog!
You don't need to argue with me. Better than I, have made that assessment. I am merely reporting the FACTS! Damn inconvenient sometimes, I know
Angry Dem seems upset that the current Iraq situation actually followed the Bush Plan... If Angry can admit to having any knowledge of it...
Having spent 547 days in Iraq I look forward to marching in the ticker tape parade in New York or DC. Ooh-rah!
When it happens.. If it happens under the White Flaggers of the new administration.. I'll Be There!!!
Semper FI!
.. and would such a parade ever PISS off all The Bone Head LIBTARDS???
brat - is there a new report that claims success in the benchmarks? I was unaware of such a document existing but I certainly could have missed it. If it does exist I would really like to see it.
redhawk - the only thing I'm upset about is that Bush was too stubborn to do anything earlier to stabilize Iraq. In my opinion it took losing control of Congress in 2006 for Bush to "see the light" and change his failing plan.
Listen up everyone--I am in NO MOOD for nonsense today so I'm giving fair warning. I will delete at will and ban if things get out of hand. I've just gotten some horrendous news about a family member and simply will not tolerate garbage today. Clear?
Subject: Fw: Sounds like a plan.......
Sounds like a plan.......
You know what would really tick OFF the Democrats...Bush should resign now. Then Dick Cheney becomes President (that would really tick OFF the libs)!!! Then he appoints Condoleezza Rice as VP. Then Cheney resigns two weeks later and Condoleezza Rice, A Republican, becomes the first BLACK - WOMAN President!!! God Bless America
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