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Gravatar For the better part of a century, we've allowed a few countries run by formerly poor, nomadic people, to hold the world at gunpoint, basically, and do pretty much whatever they wanted to do and get away with it.

Enough is enough.

We have enough oil resources on our own side of the Atlantic to sustain us is our own government would stop doing the proverbial nose cutting to spite the face of the American people.

Enough is enough.

There is only one reason the people of the Middle East have had enough money and rescources to fund terrorist campaigns: oil.

Enough is enough.

We have no real allies in the Middle East other than Israel, PERHAPS Jordan. The other countries pay lip service to alliances but hate our guts.

Enough is enough.

It's time we did something about this once and for all.

We don't need this bullshit.


Gravatar Agreed!


Gravatar I think this is going to be the moment here, Spree.

Iran has badly miscalculated the situation, because they have been emboldened one time too many by the Dems and the US liberal media. As you've noted, the EU is solidly behind Britain on this matter. Russia and China have agreed to more sanctions as well, and while the sanctions may be meaningless, if Iran doesn't let these men go and quickly, we'll be looking at the last thing the mullahs want: a true Coalition of the Willing.

I figure they have until Easter Sunday to let these men go, or we'll be seeing the President on TV soon after explaining just exactly why the US-UK joint strike/rescue mission was carried out, how it worked, and why it was successful.

And what will the Dems do then, I wonder? In a way, we'd have to thank them. They so badly miscalculated their political fortunes themselves that their emboldened Iranian allies just walked into the jet intake.

Through their incompetence the President now has a chance to form a worldwide coalition against Iran, with the bonus that the Dems will find themselves so deep in the political wilderness it may take generations for them to emerge.


Gravatar Great article. The liberal media says that the U.S. has lost credibility but, if true, that's only because of the liberal media!I signed the petition!


Gravatar I agree LightWave 100%. There comes a point of do or die...the Dems might choose die, Bush will not.

Thanks for signing petition Faultline hon!!!


Gravatar How Long Will We "Bend over" and Take it? The bleeding heart liberals will continue to bend over and take it until the vasiline runs out. But then again, maybe they will continue taking it because they enjoy the pain.


Gravatar Remember (1), some of the sailors are women, and (2) there was at least one witness, a fisherman, who said Iran took the sailors/marines in IRAQI WATERS.

Great article.


Gravatar Thanks and yes, but of course the left are somehow ignoring the witness and blaming Bush for this also... what a joke they are becoming.


Gravatar The time for Ahmadinejad is over, as it has run too long already. This man is a total lunatic who will stop at nothing short of trying to destroy us if given the chance. Why wait to send him to Hell. He's given enough reason to take him down, and to Hell with the pathetic left cowards who think a diplomatic soloution can be had. They are the ones who should go over to Iran, like the simpletons who went to Iraq to guard the schools, only to find out that Sadamm's thugs would use them as a safety zone. Left wing assholes don't get it, I do!


Gravatar SIGNED.


Gravatar "I figure they have until Easter Sunday to let these men go, or we'll be seeing the President on TV soon after explaining just exactly why the US-UK joint strike/rescue mission was carried out, how it worked, and why it was successful."

Ya think, Lightwave? How many pilots do you think we'd lose on this mission? And what are the chances of actually rescuing hostages held in downtown Tehran?
Methinks you've played too many video games.

Cooler heads need to prevail here. I think Bush and the Brits are handling it right.


Gravatar The problem as I see it is there is a time for talk and negotiations and there is a time when people start to need to understand some people cannot BE reasoned with.

You cannot appeal to a persons humanity when they have none.

You cannot make a deal with someone who will not honor that deal.

People better get it through there heads that there is no utopia, we are not perfect and our enemies do not play by rules and they have this nasty habit of USING our rules against us.

Since I have shown blatant acts of war against us or our allies since 1979 Greg, when exactly do YOU stop bending over and taking it up the ass?

Some situations have been talked to death and where has it gotten us in relation to Iran? Korea?

You CANNOT negotiate or deal with a madman... until people like Greg start understanding that, these acts of war will not stop, they will escalate.

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Gravatar Spree: Shall we start bombing?
Yes or no.


Gravatar UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE BEEN ALLOWING IT FOR YEARS ESPECIALLY WHEN A DEMOCRAT HAS BEEN IN OFFICE. IRAN, NORTH KOREA, SYRIA, OSAMA BIN LADEN AND OTHERS KNOW THAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS KEEP ON GOING AND EVENTUALLY A DEMOCRAT WILL COME INTO OFFICE AND ALLOW THEM TO GET AWAY WITH IT. I JUST DON'T GET IT. HISTORY HAS SHOWN OUR SIDE THAT YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE WITH THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE. EVERY TIME WE DO WE GET STABBED IN THE BACK. THIS HAS HAPPENED TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND WE JUST KEEP ON TAKING IT. WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE ENOUGH. WHEN IS OUR LEADERS ESPECIALLY THE TOUCHY, HUGGY , KISSY KIND GOING TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES.
RICH


Gravatar Greg, My belief is we give a deadline, then STICK TO IT... if they do not comply, pinpoint a few carefully selected strikes, if they still do not comply, take out the next set of targets.

YES is my answer as long as our action will not require ground forces or any type of invasion.

Now Greg, how about answering MY question posed to you (One of many over the last few months that you simply ignore so as to not have to actually answer).... how long and how many broken promises, acts of war, kidnappings do YOU propose we take before deciding to stop bending over and taking it and do SOMETHING (other than worthless sanctions that he ignores)?

When is enough, enough for YOU?

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Gravatar Richard... I agree 100%, at some point, we and our allies HAVE to say, enough is enough.

How many times in our lives do we have people break promises to us and continue to bank on their future promises?

When someone puts a knife to your throat, do you fight back or simply wait for them to cross it and slit your throat or do you DEFEND YOURSELF?

It is those that continue to bend over that keep getting screwed, THEN they wonder why their ass is sore and try to blame someone else for it.

It is like watching a child close their eyes and keep them closed til mommy or daddy makes it better for them, the whole time, throwing a temper tantrum because you don't like how mommy and daddy are dealing with it.



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Gravatar You know, during the Reagan years, I can't remember which year it was, but the Iranians began mining the Persian Gulf. Reagan's response wasn't verbal negotiations, his response was to send naval attack helicopters to engage the mine layer.

Damned shame we don't have that kind of mentality today...


Gravatar Spree:
I presume you mean give them a deadline to return the British seamen and then 'pinpoint a few carefully chosen sites'. Sounds good in theory.
We'll see what Bush & Blair do.

Hawk: Reagan also pulled our troops out of harm's way in Lebanon after they were attacked.


Gravatar New deal Greg, I am tired of answering your questions without you showing the common courtesy to answer the ones asked of you....sooooo, new deal is this.. I answer your question, you answer mine.... if you do not answer the ones posed to you, then I will show you the same basic common courtesy you seem used to showing.

Have a good day!!!


Gravatar From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 198...arracks_bombing

President Ronald Reagan called the attack a "despicable act" and pledged to keep a military force in Lebanon. Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger said there would be no change in the U.S.'s Lebanon policy. On October 24 French President François Mitterrand visited the French bomb site. It was not an official visit, and he only stayed for a few hours, but he did declare: "We will stay." U.S. Vice President George Bush toured the Marine bombing site on October 26 and said the U.S. "would not be cowed by terrorists."

In retaliation for the attacks, France launched an air strike in the Beqaa Valley against Iranian Revolutionary Guard positions. President Reagan assembled his national security team and planned to target the Sheik Abdullah barracks in Baalbek, Lebanon, which housed Iranian Revolutionary Guards believed to be training Hezbollah fighters.[3] But Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger aborted the mission, reportedly because of his concerns that it would harm U.S. relations with other Arab nations.

Besides a few shellings, there was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans. In December 1983, U.S. aircraft attacked Syrian targets in Lebanon, but this was in response to Syrian missile attacks on planes, not the barracks bombing.

The Marines were moved offshore where they could not be targeted. On February 7, 1984, President Reagan ordered the Marines to begin withdrawal from Lebanon. This was completed on February 26; the rest of the MNF was withdrawn by April.


Gravatar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Ajr

On 21 September 1987, U.S. forces tracked the ship and dispatched Army helicopters from the Navy guided missile frigate USS Jarrett (FFG-33) to shadow it. When the aviators reported that people aboard the Iran Ajr were laying mines, the U.S. commander in the Persian Gulf ordered the Army pilots to "stop the mining." The helicopters fired on the ship, killing some of the mariners and chasing others into the water. A team of Navy SEAL commandos later boarded the ship, confirmed the presence of mines, and detained the surviving Iranians. On 26 September, they scuttled the ship in international waters.

When the USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-5 struck a mine the following April, Navy explosive ordnance specialists matched the serial numbers of nearby unexploded mines to the ones aboard the Iran Ajr. This evidence of Iranian involvement in the Roberts mining led to the biggest surface-warfare battle since World War II, the retribution campaign of 18 April 1988 called Operation Praying Mantis.


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