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For me Mr. obama, is to perfect, he is sayng just his lesson, its wath some American citizen wanth to hear, a big change in every thing, quick service, he is a friend from every body, Israel, Hamas, we say all to good, is the fou of the nabur, he is a nice man, a nice voice, he is more a preacherman, he has not the fors to be president of the USA, Mr. McCain, is old yes, but he has an inside power, I think in this very hard world he is maby the bether man.
You've lost our minds...
The truth will set you free. A vote for Obama is a vote for Hamas.
I was going to comment ... seems I lost my mind, though ....
This McCain comment is in poor taste, not because it is untrue, but because of the manipulative fashion that it implies that Obama and Hamas somehow share a common point of view.
Well, since Hamas did endorse BHO and he didn't distance himself from that endorsement, seems they do share a common view. Next remark?
Why is it that Hussein gets the support of Hamas, a terrorist organization bent on killing all the Jews in the world? Is it because they know he will be a weak leader, easily misled by their lies and propaganda?
That could be. Another reason not to vote for him.
I think it's that, Katie, but I also still strongly believe the man has muslim ties he refuses to reveal--look at the uproar with what little was "released" before--like a "trial balloon" if you will--and then instantly refuted by his "camp". If there truly are ties there, and deep ones as I suspect, he's not about to reveal them for more uproar. However, those who endorse him and whom he refuses to distance himself from are very telling indeed--between Hamas and Farrakhan, I don't think there's very much doubt where his real loyalties lie--not in most sane people (those not snowed by his glib tongue). And those loyalties certainly aren't with the US,
I wonder when Carter met with Hamas did he give them any assurances from Obama? All of Obama's Middle East advisers are all from Carter. They are anti-Semitic and very pro-Arab.
Hamas may approve of Obama but I am quite sure that leaders of Al Qaeda are hoping McCain wins since he appears more likley to continue with the foreign policy approach of the current administration which has played right into Al Qaeda's hands. The U.S. invading Iraq and Afghanistan was the best thing that could have happened for Al Qaeda in terms of recruitment and rallying their cause. I wouldn't be surprised if Al Qaeda is rasing money for McCain in hopes that he will bomb Iran, as he has joked about, because this would only increase support and sympathy for Al Qaeda exponentially.
Gee Kyle, you sound like an AQI sympathizer yourself. Show us how McCain and the war have helped AQI's cause and please use at least three reliable sources , not MSM media garbage.
This is aside from my point but it goes without saying that the war in Iraq has made Al Qaeda stronger by giving them the appearance of justification for their cause and providing Al Qaeda with a perfect propaganda tool that has been used to inspire a whole new generation of jihadists. Perhaps my sarcasm has distracted from my point (I don't really think Al Qaeda is fundraising for McCain). The real point is that you can not damn someone because their supporters. Honestly, I do respect John McCain even though he is endorsed by John Hagee. Hagee is a religious authority who preaches a hateful point of view which could inadvertantly inspire his followers to commit hateful acts. Just because Hagee has endorsed McCain, I don't believe John McCain agrees with Hagee's views necessarily.
Kyle, it definitely goes without saying because it simply is not true and you would know that if you paid visits to sites where boots on the ground are actually "speaking" instead of the anti-american, lose at all costs and undercut our military and their mission sites. The evidence AQI is growing stronger because of us is simply not true. Go visit some mil-blog sites where you can read what's actually going on--Centcom, Pat Dollard, Move America Forward, etc. and then come back. What you are believing is a lie perpetrated by propagandists.
As for religious ministers, I'm not really fond of Hagee either because I happen to be Catholic--but in no way is he as bad as Wright. further, from the get go, McCain distanced himself from Hagee's views--it took BHO forever and several lies before he distanced himself from wright's views and then most people (myself included) believe he did so purely for political expediency and his "outrage" was feigned. That was pretty much backed up by a NYT article from a year ago, written by Jodi Kantor, wherein BHO and wright discussed BHO would probably have to distance himself from wright in the future. What we see there is a scripted action.
Hagee and Wright are not in the same ballpark; nor is the relationship between Hagee/McCain and Wright/BHO.
I respect your point of view on the war and you could be right but I think that calling my position "a lie perpetrated by propagandists" is an oversimplification. One thing's for sure this war isn't striking any kind of effective blow against Al Qaeda.
I'm not talking about who's worse, Hagee or Hamas, or comparing them by any means. I am saying that just because someone supports a candidate, that doesn't mean that the candidate necessarily agrees with the views of their supporter. I think that speculation is dangerous and especially on the internet where myths gain momentum so quickly.
McCain/Lieberman praise Farrakhan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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This is the kindest response Obama could have given considering that McCain insinuated that Obama is cozy with Hamas. The equally nasty response would have been to call McCain "panders to the insecurities of some voters." The take-no-prisoners response would have been to say that "McCain mis-uses his military service to wrap himself in the American flag and swiftboat the presumptive democratic nominee"
Obama shows great restraint in not saying things like this.
I agree things on the internet spread quickly, myth as well as fact. Again, I suggest going to the sites of the boots on the ground--we ARE indeed having a significant effect against AQI and you need to see it yourself from those that are there fighting it. The proof is there and has been available for those who truly wish to know the truth.
My mistake--I thought you were comparing Hagee/wright. In the case of bho, though, I think it's abundantly clear he does indeed support and agree with wright's views, especially in light of his other friendships and acquaintances. You truly are judged by the company you keep and one extremist can be found in just about any one's closet--several starts to point to a person's judgment capabilities regarding the company they keep.
The biggest secret in America right now, the one that millions of Americans might admit to in private but would never say in public is this:
Barack Obama will get crushed in November, and the Dems are going to nominate him anyway.
The Clintons know it. Given that they are in the endgame of their campaign, Bill and Hillary have finally put it on the table this week, saying Obama has lost support among "working class white Americans", emphasis on the word white. They have no choice if they want to win, because they know McCain will destroy Obama in November.
Even as bad as the GOP "brand" is damaged, McCain is still in a statistical dead heat with Obama right now.
The Obama camp doesn't want to admit it. But they've seen the numbers. Obama's half-truths, outright lies, and his own campaign's disturbing rhetoric have cost him a large chunk of the white vote.
And that will only get worse. Obama has been getting a pass still. The Jeremiah Wright issue SHOULD have forced him to drop out. Any other Presidential candidate would have been asked by the party to go. Hillary's livid because he's still in.
So after the nomination, Obama remains fatally flawed. He'll get a small boost, and then by August or September the real artillery will land and he'll crack under the assault.
Result? McCain in the White House.
Guaranteed.
PS, if I'm an African-American, I'd have to seriously ask myself "Do I want to see Obama lose in a landslide and set back African-American candidates all over the nation back 50 years?"
God help us if Obama is elected.
God help us if Grampy McSame gets elected, we are doomed
Barry Ho is Changing to be the same LOON Liberal WHINER when TRUTH comes out .. Whine about Jeremiah... Whine about Rezko... Whine about the Black Panther.. Whine after being "happy" for Hamas endorsement..
I think you, Miss Beth & Kyle are talking past each other. AQ and AQ in Iraq are two different issues for one. We are KATN on them in Iraq, you're right miss Beth. BUT AQ on all levels in all countries use our going after them for propaganda to recruit and win popular support; point for Kyle. Either way we have a job to do, and in Iraq as Genl. Powell put it " We broke it, we bought it."
I like this site a lot more when there's discussion, not just namecalling and vitriol.
Wow, so much ignorance in one place.
Let me guess, you are all pro-war, but didn't have the guts to join...right? Well, you better get ready to join, because if you're dumb enough to vote for McCain, you can be sure that they'll need more soldiers for the 100 year occupation, and "Bomb bomb bomb Iran" campaign.
But chances are, most of you suffer from the same "CRS" syndrom as McCain does, and forgot that he doesn't have a clue, and can change his mind 3 times in less than 10 minutes in 1 interview!!!
Considering many of the contributors here are veterans, you show your ignorance in a massive form....LOLOLOL
Poor things, you just cannot stand the TRUTH can you? Get used to it...more forthcoming.
Actually, Stefan, most of are veterans, who have served in one or more wars, which I can rest assured you have not.
Not only are you ignorant about this site, your narrow-mindedness in re McCain speaks volumes of your political slant I suggest you go back to your Kool- Aid; you are most definitely not mature enough for intellectual dialogue.
Stefan,
It just could be that I've been in uniform longer than you've been alive. As previous comments will attest I won't be pigeonholed as for or against the "WAR". There are more than one theatre.At this stage it's something we have to finish. Not enough room here for a lengthy debate, but for what it's worth I've never voted republican and we're going back to Iraq next year, and I've got a 3 year old. So either discuss (not hack) or have a nice hot cup of shut the fuck up. Nothing personal. Usually I'm pretty polite.
I am so glad this issue is finally starting to show up in the news. I heard about this weeks ago and even listened to the audio tape.
And a revelation today: an Obama Mid East adviser was let go after holding talks with Hamas.
I would LOVE to have been a fly on the wall during THAT conversation.
Obama is genetically programmed to be offened by everything said about him - his sire side proves that.
Obama Jr's father was born a member of the Luo tribe in Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya. Senior's Luo father (Obama Jr's grandfather), Hussein Onyango Obama, was a prominent and wealthy farmer. Sarah Obama, a devout Muslim, was quoted telling Obama Jr. "What your grandfather respected was strength. Discipline. This is also why he rejected the Christian religion. He could not understand such ideas as mercy towards your enemies, or that this man Jesus could wash away a man's sins. To your grandfather, this was a foolish sentiment, something to comfort women."
(18th century) Muslims encouraged warring tribes, Obama Jr's Luo ancestors included, to capture "prisoners of war" and sell them into slavery. Kenya tribe leaders, also exported slaves and ivory that had been exchanged by Africans from the interior for salt, cloth, beads, and metal goods.
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