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Ya, we already know how well that's going to turn out.
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12.10.07 - 8:39 pm | #
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"The data are checked against a watch list of criminals, known or suspected terrorists, and people who have violated the tough immigration laws in the U.S."
They really said TOUGH IMMIGRATION LAWS?????
OMGosh that has got to be the funny line of the DAY!
Good article, Spree!
Miss Beth |
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12.10.07 - 9:02 pm | #
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What is the lean of the author of this page? Do you think the progress of Iraq is measurable by more then one source?
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12.11.07 - 12:30 am | #
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Interesting Spree. A little bit, a little bit late. But I suppose every little bit helps. i'm afraid I'm as cynical as Miss B.
PS: I have no idea what "caleb" is talking about. Does anybody else? I think it might be an insrcrutable troll.
Roger W. Gardner |
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12.11.07 - 3:08 am | #
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But what if you are a one-hook muslim imam from London?
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12.11.07 - 8:10 am | #
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First off Caleb, this is about fingerprinting, not Iraq... but to answer your question, I think multiple sources are needed. Iraqi's, soldiers on the ground right now, Commanders and embeds.
Firsthand eyewitness accounts are the ONLY credible source.
Others are speaking to rumor, getting information from stringers and in some cases as with the last 20 beheaded bodies that didn't really exist, simple lies.
NOW....get back on topic I do not tolerate distraction techniques nor the hijacking of my threads to talk about issues that have nothing to do with the post thread you are commenting on.
No more warnings will be given.
Spree |
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12.11.07 - 9:48 am | #
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This is a move in the right direction. However, it isn't the "be-all, end-all" that Chertoff makes it out to be. It is a bit "cumbersome." Fingerprint biometrics are not always accurate either, because of a number of factors. But a move in the right direction nonetheless.
Stormwarning |
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12.11.07 - 1:59 pm | #
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They should also take impressions of everyone's ears (no kidding!), because each of us have our own distinctive print. Getting a sample of everyone's DNA wouldn't hurt either. That way it would all be in the system. Now, if only someone would authorize the budget on all that, I'd feel a bit more secure.
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12.11.07 - 5:40 pm | #
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Lily, at th rate they are going, one step at a time but good idea with the ear thing!!!
Spree |
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12.11.07 - 5:52 pm | #
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I think Caleb took the wrong turn-off on his way to the Liberal Parkway Interstate.
Lily |
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12.11.07 - 6:02 pm | #
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Hey Lily! LOL!
Roger W. Gardner |
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12.11.07 - 6:05 pm | #
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Lily, that is a common problem these days. heh
Hey Roger!
Spree |
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12.11.07 - 6:07 pm | #
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Hey Spreezie! How goes the battle?
Roger W. Gardner |
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12.11.07 - 6:16 pm | #
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Battles going good Roger!!!
Spree |
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12.11.07 - 6:33 pm | #
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Have we made any new enemies today? Or converted any trolls?
Roger W. Gardner |
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12.11.07 - 7:51 pm | #
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Somehow I always make new enemies...LOL
Spree |
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12.11.07 - 8:21 pm | #
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I'm HELPING too...cranky mood, cranky--real cranky, not in the mood for nonsense, icky...
Miss Beth |
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12.11.07 - 10:02 pm | #
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Miss B -- luvya when you're cranky.
Roger W. Gardner |
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12.11.07 - 10:23 pm | #
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LOL...well today takes the cake in cranky--too comfy to get up this morning (slept through the alarm), cold and rainy all day, believe it or not under a snow advisory HERE of ALL places--just wanted to stay home with a good book, a roaring fire, the cats on my feet (and a nice blanket), a huge bowl of over-buttered popcorn, hot coffee with brandy and whipped cream and a good b/w movie on tv--and instead had to do that awful thing called WORK. Christmas decorations only 1/2 up (can't hang them in this weather) and the cats have decided the glitter balls belong all over the floor not the tree.
Ick.
Miss Beth |
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12.11.07 - 11:11 pm | #
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Cheer up, Miss B. Some poor people in this world don't even HAVE any cats.
Roger W. Gardner |
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12.11.07 - 11:14 pm | #
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I'm about ready to boot the suckers out--one has never seen a christmas tree before--the one that's full grown but no bigger than a 6 month old kitten--of course, she's climbing up in it--thank goodness I invested in shatterproof ornaments--lots of glitter and shine but shatterproof.
She also decided it would be fun to play with the pine cone basket with all the bells on it----still tracking down bells from that little fiasco!
Miss Beth |
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12.12.07 - 12:25 am | #
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Otter:
"But what if you are a one-hook muslim imam from London?"
Ok this will tell you what a week it's been today--I'm JUST NOW getting this--GOOD ONE!
Miss Beth |
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12.12.07 - 12:26 am | #
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I liked that one too, Miss B.
Roger W. Gardner |
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12.12.07 - 1:09 am | #
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*lol* I hear that.
otter |
12.12.07 - 9:42 am | #
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Entry documentation and the attendant programs are all critical, and to this moment have not been solved. The US Visit program itself hasn't been as effective as first hoped, the biometric border crossing card has had problems, the biometric TWIC program is nearly two years behind schedule etc.
However, as I mentioned, this (the 10 print requirement) is a good step. It does remain to be seen if it will actually work, or if it will create a backlog.
More, perhaps, at another time.
Stormwarning |
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12.12.07 - 9:29 pm | #
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What about an RFID chip? That way everyone's comings and goings could be monitored? Or would that be just too cool, too un-Constitutional?
Lily |
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12.13.07 - 12:46 pm | #
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I could see blood pressures rising now from the thought of it...LOL
Spree |
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12.13.07 - 12:54 pm | #
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RFIDs are problematic...and the Constitution has nothing to do with it.
You won't see mass embedding of RFID chips in our lifetimes, and probably in our children's lifetimes...for alot of reasons.
But, I gather that you're not familiar with the "e-passport" program? Or that the RFID in the
"e-passport" was cloned by the Blackhats? As I wrote, the 10-print req. is a good step, but it isn't the solution.
Stormwarning |
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12.13.07 - 1:11 pm | #
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Odd. My dog has an RFID. Why shouldn't children, in the event their abducted, or worse? I think eventually it's going to happen, whether we want it or not. I think the best test would be to implant hardened criminals who have been captured and then released back into society (i.e., Wayne Dumond and others like him).
And before you argue back, Storm, I know the politically correct crowd would yell bloody murder over the idea on the basis of invasion of privacy, or something like that.
IMO, RFIDs is just another idea in the bottomless well of possibilities.
Lily |
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12.13.07 - 2:53 pm | #
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I wasn't planning on arguing Lily. I don't care about the politically correct crowd, so much as I care about the current state of the technology. Its one thing to put a chip in a dog (Digital Angel makes plenty of money doing that), and I know all about Verichip and the medical information on a chip embedded in your shoulder. Frankly, I think "tagging" criminals, especially sex offenders is probably a good idea. Afterall, convicted felons lose alot of rights anyway.
As for using it to deal with abductions, "we've" considered that with high value individuals, and gone with alternatives since if/when they are found-out, they will be dug out.
However, go back to the original point of ID for entry to the country. The "e-passport" is problematic and RFIDs in general are still an evolving technology. You've got to take my word for it (actually you don't).
Stormwarning |
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12.13.07 - 3:51 pm | #
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