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Spunky,
What can we do? Can we write letters and can we collect money as a homeschool community for these families?
Jill
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I'm checking into that. I'm not sure right now. Prayer for sure.
Spunky |
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09.14.06 - 11:11 am | #
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I will pray for this family. I get laughed at alot for using Hitler quotes in topics pertaining to regulating homeschooling from our government...
Well, I want to somewhat go off topic and make this point to all those people out there who feel that schooling can only be done by "certifiable" teachers. I have to make the brash assumption that these people also feel that only certified doctors can diagnose and treat illness as well. After all, how can a person not educated in medicine and anatomy possibly know what is going on with their body? (Compare this to the line of thinking that how can one not educated in education possibly know the needs of their own child?) I am going to try to get to my point quickly so bear with me here. 2 months ago I went to the doctor and paid $120 for a 10 minute office visit because I was having breast pain. To put to you how bad I was hurting lets just say I don't do doctors unless I am pregnant. That $120 bought myself the medical term "mastalgia" to go with my condition and another $10 bought me a prescription for 10 400mg. Naproxen Sodium pills. Well, upon arriving home I consulted my drug reference guide (yes, I did go to school and I am a LPN, though I have not practiced in 8 years....but even with this reasoning NO ONE should take a pill just because a medical doctor prescribed it without knowing what it is and its side effects) I was shocked to find out it is Aleve. Which can be bought over the counter in 220mg. pills. 150 pills(which basically equals 75 doses of what I paid $10 for 10 doses) costs about $8. Boy, did I feel stupid. But then I got irritated when I realized this doctor who I paid good grocery money to basically just masked my pain. No treatment or suggestions for what could actually be causing it. So I started researching it and came up with my own diagnosis of the culprit. I started on some homeopathic ways to cleanse my body and so far so good. But another thing to point out is the fact that the government is trying very hard to regulate herbs and homeopathic remedies. See the similarity? I mean had I went with this man just because I was paying for it and he was after all a "certified" professional, I would have ended up forking out WAY to much money and in the end making my body sicker from masking the pain instead of finding the cause!!!
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By the way, just so it is clear why I chose to put this post here instead of under the snobbery post is because this has nothing to do with snobbery. This has to do with being "rational". Like in your post one can see that a rational person can clearly see why Germany should change the laws of an irrational man.
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:Sigh: One would think the police have better things to do...
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09.14.06 - 1:41 pm | #
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I lived in Germany for a year, in the military. Many military families homeschool, and they are only allowed to as long as they are ACTIVE in the military. One family I know of, had to send their 6 children to a Christian school (that's a LOT of $$ each year) due to this law. See...the husband was in the military. He got a call to lead a small bible-based church and left the military shortly after. It was only then that they discoved they were no longer allowed to homeschool. Someone reported them to the authorities.
They stated they were unaware of this law. How sad that a law such as this STILL exists.
While I do not homeschool (my daughter and I butt heads too much), I can truly appreciate homeschooling families, as they are doing what is best for THEIR families.
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09.14.06 - 3:19 pm | #
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Spunky,
You're being manipulated by Farris and the theocrat-wannabes.
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Daryl, I don't have any contact with Micheal Farris and I'm not an HSLDA member. I think for myself, thank you very much. A mom has been arrested. She's not a criminal. There are terrorists running amok in Europe and they pick on her for her "fringe" and "radical" beliefs. Come one. The facts are the facts. Your argument that I am being manipulated by anyone has absolutely no merit. I am not a theocrat. A closet "reconstructionst" or anything else. I'm a thinking Christian with a brain and I use it. For any government to arrest a homeschooling mother of 12 is newsworthy. Sticking our head in the sand and ignoring her situation because I might look like I'm in a certain "camp" is foolish. This family needs our prayers first and any help we can give them. You may call it manipulation I call it compassion.
Spunky |
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09.14.06 - 8:01 pm | #
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*Spitting feathers*
Because all home-schoolers keep themselves armed for when the police arrive.
/sarcasm
All the crazy nutcases in Europe and the UK who openly threaten violence, and the authorities are going after 'Mom'. What is going on?
Libbie |
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09.15.06 - 7:48 am | #
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I suspect that Daryl is being manipulated by the anti- HSLDA crowd. sad.
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Thanks for the link...but it doesn't work : ) That's ok, because it isn't the best article.
How can someone be manipulated by HSLDA by finding it a little disconcerting that a mother would be arrested for homeschooling by a team of officers? OK, so this is happening in Germany. Couldn't happen here, could it? I don't know.
What are the main arguments against homeschooling in the US? Even the NEA is against us. But why? Primarily, it seems, because of socialization. The same reasoning behind the status of homeschooling in Germany.
Where are we taking a good deal of our education reforms from? Aspects of the German system.
Why can't Americans hold an opinion on what is happening in another country? We aren't exactly mobilizing the vote over in Germany or interfering in the least. We aren't going to the UN and trying to force our values or legal system on them. As a Christian, many of us are very concerned about how Christians are treated in other countries where they are tortured, imprisoned and even murdered. Have we no right to an opinion simply because we don't live there?
Believe, me they hold opinions regarding just about every aspect of American life.
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Sorry about that Dana. I'm blogging solo for the next few days, Spunky Jr. is in Dallas. She usually checks the hyperlinks for me. I must have messed it up when I made some edits to the post. I'll definitely fix it because I thought it was worth reading.
Thanks for adding your thoughts here. It is a surprising that people who find no problem with the UN messing with the lives of people get a little ticked when we just share an opinion about what's going on somewhere in the world. Seems as though everyone is allowed to have an opinion but a Conservative Christian homeschooler these days. But then again maybe I'm a little touchy from other conversations on this blog.
Spunky |
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Spunky Jr. is in Dallas and you didn't get to come????? Wah...
You could have come by and had a home cooked meal : )
Kelli |
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I agree, Spunky. But then, when we express an opinion (and heaven forbid suggest voting or acting in a particular way), we are imposing our values and religion on others.
I do care about what my neighbor believes, but I would never enforce it through the legal system...it is a matter of the heart. Upon meeting an atheist, I would likely make some attempt to explain the gospel...but I don't support the laws which don't allow atheists to run for office in some communities and I'm glad it was a Christian who defended the atheist family who was physically attacked and told to leave the state when their daughter refused to pray before a basketball game.
Never mind legislation affecting churches with volunteers monitoring sermons to be sure that preachers don't support particular candidates or parties if they accept tax-exempt status. Never mind schools banning religiously motivated speech from students and denying them their first amendment rights...if they are pro-Christian, anyway. Those Christians are the ones impeding on others' right not to be offended. Hmm. I'm offended by that. Can I claim some constitutional protection for everything I'm offended by? No. And I don't even try. It is a ridiculous assertion that we even have a right not to be offended.
OK, that was OT...
Dana |
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Thanks Dana. And I couldn't agree more. Some people see only two options -- make this world a theocracy or let everyone do what they want. I think our founding fathers found a third way. The sad thing is, most seem want to gravitate toward one of the other two.
Spunky |
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Sorry Kelli, I would have loved to come and enjoy the meal and the company. But the budget wasn't there for both of us. She's there until Monday. I hope to get there someday.
Spunky |
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09.16.06 - 10:31 am | #
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A native-German-speaking friend translated the original Kreuz.net article for me. The government official behind the arrest apparently has a reputation for causing trouble, although the article doesn't give details:
http://opinionatedhomeschooler.b...ted-
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So why is Daryl all of a sudden bashing YOU of all people? Good heavens. You are sharing what is happening in the global homeschooling world and the link is the the Brussels Journal of all things, not HSLDA's website. He needs to get over it.
Thanks for sharing this. I think it is appalling that they still live under Hitler's laws!
Kate
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09.18.06 - 2:49 pm | #
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To some homeschoolers, Christian homeschooler is the same thing as saying HSLDA.
Spunky |
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