Why thank you for the link. Interestingly you seem to suffer from exactly the same prejudices and assumptions yourself, that somehow criticism or identifications of a possibility of prejudices within authorship somehow equates to hatred. I don't see how my statement equates to the assumption that "Jew-controlled media and the Jew-controlled governments of the West"?

Perhaps you might see things differently had you been summarily expelled from a Jewish household for the simple reason that you did not agree with the statement "All Arabs are terrorists", ALL being the operative word.

"You Arab lover!" was the last word as I was escorted to the door.

"My dear, I love everyone. Even Jews.", was my dry riposte.

So let me get this straight: you objected to a Jew describing ALL Arabs as terrorists: this proves to you that a presumed Jew like Schneier has a simplistic view of terrorism, because, based on your single experience, ALL Jews have such a view?

Notice anything slightly inconsistent in that?

> I don't see how my statement equates to the assumption that "Jew-controlled media and the Jew-controlled governments of the West"?

That's because it doesn't, and I didn't say it did. Learn to read.

> somehow criticism or identifications of a possibility of prejudices within authorship somehow equates to hatred.

Not at all. It was your assertion that all Jews indoctrinate their children with simplistic prejudice from the earliest age, thereby causing them to grow up with a stunted and simplistic understanding, that rather gave the game away. And you weren't identifying any sort of prejudice on the part of the author: you were identifying his race and then simply stating that, his race being what it is, of course he'll have these prejudices.

"Well, of course he's got a stunted and simplistic understanding of economics: he's black," is also, you'll no doubt be amazed to hear, racist.

> Perhaps you might see things differently had you been summarily expelled from a Jewish household

Oh, I see. You had an argument with one disagreeable Jewish family. Yes, that proves it, then. The others will obviously all be the same, 'cause they are all the same, aren't they?

You can have one more reply, then you can bugger off. Not all are welcome here.

"My dear, I love everyone. Even Jews.", was my dry riposte.

You seem to confuse "dry" and "patronising". Seeking to prove your lack of racism by stating that you even love a group as obviously unworthy of love as the Jews is likely to fail.

You have quite a democratic streak there Sir.

I did not state that all Jews indoctrinate their children, I said that it seemed quite possible, based on reading his article that the author of this article had been subject to this kind of prejudice.

Yes I identified one family as an example, I did not however form the view that such prejudices are common based on that one incident, I assumed you might not enjoy several pages unsavoury anecdotes. I certainly didn't enjoy living them.

Using the internet you can find quite a few blogs where individual Jews discuss this prejudice within their own community and are highly critical of it. e.g. http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com Are they racists Mr Squander?

I am perplexed, that having been critical of the man's article you rush to defend him on the premise that his background and experiences have no baring on his views. Everyone, including you is a product of his upbringing and life experiences whether balanced or otherwise. I am surprised that you think otherwise as it now seems.

Seems to me you are more interested in winning an argument with me (or slandering me) than discussing it in a polite manner. Intra-ethnic prejudice is sadly a common feature of human existence, do you really think the Shias and Sunnis of Iraq are really arguing about the interpretation of certain verses of the Koran right now in Iraq? I'm sure quite a few have forgotten why they hate each other.

I'm not trying to convince you I'm right, I'm trying to convince you that these issues are not black and white and that there is a worrying trend to metamorphosise these issues into existential struggles by interested parties; whether they be Christian fundamentalist right, Jewish right or just warmonger. If you ignore these issues they will seep into the collective psychology without the slightest consideration. Your slanderous allegation however is more wrong than you know.

Steve : Excuse me for patronising a racist!

> I did not state that ...

We can all read exactly what you said, thanks.

> quite a few blogs where individual Jews discuss this prejudice within their own community

No, you can find some Jews who believe that most Jews are prejudiced. What you said was that all Jews are spoon-fed simplistic prejudice from the cradle. No, that's not the same thing.

> having been critical of the man's article you rush to defend him on the premise that his background and experiences have no baring on his views.

I have done no such thing. You, however, have absolutely no idea what his background and experiences are. You just reckon he's probably Jewish, and everything else just slots into place.

> Everyone, including you is a product of his upbringing and life experiences whether balanced or otherwise.

Yes, obviously, and, again, that's not what you said. I, for example, was spoon-fed simplistic Socialist crap from the cradle. It is not therefore true to say that all white people are spoon-fed simplistic Socialist crap by their parents. Furthermore, I've ended up broadly right-wing, so neither is it true to suggest that you can tell someone's opinions from what their parents taught them.

> Seems to me you are more interested in winning an argument with me (or slandering me) than discussing it in a polite manner.

Not at all. I have no doubt that you will continue in your self-delusion, so I have no interest in winning an argument with you. The purpose of a debate is to present points of view to third-party observers so as not to let bollocks stand uncorrected where someone might believe it. And I see politeness as an option, not a duty. You want to make a comment like yours on here, expect abuse in response.

> Your slanderous allegation however is more wrong than you know.

Your comment exhibited nasty insiduous racist prejudice towards Jews. If it was not representative of your opinions, I suggest you disown it.

Bye.

"You have quite a democratic streak there Sir."

Wolfie seems confused about a lot of things. Now we see that democracy is one of them too....

I also liked the "B-but I was just putting the boot in on someone you criticised! Why are you turning on me?" Guess he's used to a certain class of thugs.