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I've often thought that a black conservative (Clarence Thomas would be my pick, personally) would be an interesting subject for a Spike Lee movie, if Spike was still interested in making serious movies.
Nothing funnier than watching Armstrong rage against affirmative action while sitting on an all white panel.
How many times do the Republicans have to do this before it constitutes a pattern of corrupt practices?
Just askin.
Damn, just how low is this buck- dancing Sambo willing to go in order to sit at Mr. Charlie's table and eat scraps? I thought Williams hit rock bottom when he was defending Strom. Just goes to show that if you are willing to do it, self-loathing is a worthy narcotic.
Spike did do a black conservative character in the movie, Bamboozled.
williams isn't a reporter, but a commentator.
with this money, he proves he's a WHORE.
i'm a former newspaper reporter, and this makes my blood boil. to me, it's bad enough to be a coward, but worse to be a WHORE -- to have advertisers dictate content in exchange for advertising.
What I don't understand is why the Busheviki thought Armstrong would help them in the black community. I would have no way to know, but if Armstrong has a big audience in the black community I have yet to learn about it.
Steve,
When was Mr. Justice Thomas begging his betters for money? I missed that, but I'm not surprised.
I remember a while back that Williams chided blacks for primarily working in government jobs when they should be in the private sector. Looks like he got himself a taste of taxpayer money as well. Another GOP hypocrite is exposed.
And as long as we're talking about negro conservatives selling their dignity and reputations for their white massa, let's not forget the two house-negros-in-chief - Condi and Colin. (Ok, ya got me, Condi never had a reputation or dignity.)
Alice Marshall.
Well, ever since his male assistant sued him for sexual harassment, any black audience he had disappeared, since homophobia is the prefered weapon to insult black men.
Mark,
Thomas has taken thousands in gifts from prominent conservatives over the last few years. Cash, country club memberships, tution for a relative.
Some self-reliance there, right?
semper fubar,
Nah, Powell is the tragic negro. Condi is Bush's secret girlfriend.
Journalists are giving lawyers a run for the money in the "which profession will sink to new lows" race. I'd hate to see the bahavior of a J-school grad with a JD...
Steve
Have you ever listened to Larry Elder, or read any of his collumns? I'm curious to hear your take on him.
How is Powell still the good guy?? I am usually amazed at attitudes like this? He is part of the (America destroying) administration, and his son is taking steps to keep the media firmly in the (republican) propaganda camp.
His son's chief complaint is the "mercedes gap", because he can't afford one...yet.
And Powell is a good guy?
WOW....know your enemies.
And don't be idiots. Please....
Not being rascist here but.
Powell is a liar.
Condi is Ms. Tuition for the chimp.
Armstrong is a whore.
Two things burn my frog on this:
First, the SOB just doesn't see anything wrong with this. He flatout says that the only reason he won't keep taking the payola is that it's drawing negative attention to him and Bush. Fine - he's amoral. But, where is the follow-up in the media explaining that no, this is in fact unethical?!
Second, where's the outrage over the fact that someone in the government is paying him to shill?! That is, all I've heard, seen, and read in the media is the "exposing" of the pundit. How about telling us who exactly in the government authorized this, how high up it went, and then reminding the nation that this, too, is unethical!
Outrage? Over a payoff to a journalist? You goddam bet I am fucking outraged! The bastard is screwing us all by doing this!
1. So cheaply.
And 2. Where the FUCK is mine?
I was fucking right! I should have gotten more money! Fuck!
timotheus,
Who the hell said he was a good guy. He failed at being Secretary of State. His son is destroying broadcast radio as we speak. How long is it after Stern moves to Sirius, which will probably be this year, after Viacom fires him, will radio take a fatal hit? One year? Two?
The Powells are failures, with the son craven and greedy and the father loyal to the wrong people.
Which is why he's a tragic negro. Had so much potential, wasted in the service of a spoiled rich kid like Bush.
Mike S,
He does a good lightweight Dr. Phil in the morning, but he's still an Uncle Tom.
Steve
He does syndicated radio show from 6-9pm eastern that I think you should listen to. http://www.larryelder.com/ is his website.
Mike S,
Nah. He doesn't impress me much with his bullshit empowerment talk. It all has to do with kissing the ass of the GOP.
Somehow I expected more virulance. I've called into his show quite a few times because he is a lying sack of shit and a coward. If you have a valid point he will scream over you and disconnect. Aaron McGruder did a strip where he said Elder was a perfect match for Rice and also did one where he had a competition for "Most embarrassing Black People" and Larry was nominated.
He also supports Alan Keyes.
Don't know if you're aware, but Jonah Goldberg over at NRO's "The Corner" is critizing this post and calling you a "racist." If I knew how to haloscan those laughing icons, I'd do it.
A little racist here aren't we boys and girls? I guess if I said Jesse was just a whore mongering extortionist negro, knocking up little mambies, that would be ok?
"House negro", "silly negro ass", "buck dancing Sambo", etc.
Ahhh, Daddy Gilliard must be so proud.
It must warm the hearts of all the old Southern Democrats to see the old racial epithets on proud display again. Way to go, Steve. Obviously your regular readers are enjoying the opportunity to release all their pent up racism, led by your ignorant hateful remarks.
Have at me. I've had enough of all the pathetic cowardly racists that provide you with an audience. Perhaps one of your more astute fans can start the ball rolling by calling me a "white nigger". That will fit right in with the tone and give your hick regulars a chance to giggle at their cleverness and courage!!
I didn't hear Jonah cry about how other conservative pundit like Bill and Rush are bad. Or how much bad Newt was for flogging Clinton while sleeping with his intern. He didn't even blame the Bush admin. Just Amrstrong. The only difference between those guys and Williams is is the color of their skin.
Williams should be ashamed of himself. Completely unethical.
Also, I just learned the KKK blog just put "Steve Gilliard's News Blog" on their blogroll under "favorites." Congrats!
Hey Erik: Jonah posted this on the Corner at 10AM this morning...
"I think it was stupid and unacceptable for the Administration to give him the money. If the Clinton Administration had been paying off liberal pundits to promote his policies we would have gone batty, and rightly so. A better explanation is required. The whole thing seems gross to me."
Hey Harry near Indy. You're a whore!
Ross: He updated the post after just blaming Armstrong. What's really funny is that Jonah isn't so much mad about the fact it was done, that it's propagnada, that it's a waste of taxpayer resources, that it's unethcial journalism. He wasn't even mad about the WH at first then added to the post later saying how stupid the WH was. He is mad at the image it gives to the Bush admin and the right wing echo chamber. If the whole post is read Jonah is mad more at the fact that if Armstrong was looking for money or needed money(for an operation as jonah put it) then he seems to be saying that there is vast right wing infrastructure that could have provided Williams with the money, the Bushes know this, and it is only bad politically.
Without knowing you well enough to tell if you're joking or whether you really are applying for Klan membership...
yeah, you seem like the worst kind of racist to me.
I think the payoff is an outrage, but your headlines, etc. are also pretty horrific.
Steve Gilliard,
Robert Byrd, who knows a thing or two about sucking the public teat, can probably get you on the government payroll too. That might help with the jealousy.
If not, I'm sure he can grandfather you into the Klan. Which is where you belong.
Your headlines are perhaps the most despicable and racist comments I have read in some time. Are you kidding me? Did you even think before writing that out?
If a Republican had said what Steve and some of his readers have said, Steve would be screaming for their head. Steve would probably say all Republicans are racists.
I wonder if Steve and his fellow racists reader have the guts to apologize.
Probably not.
my goodness -- all of this racial sensitivty from the wingers. looks like that tsunami really did knock the world off its axis..
I am simply astounded that you could post something so blatantly racist.
You are clearly a very sick person - please seek professional help as soon as possible.
"Massa, I sure do likes No Child Left Behind"?
Steve Gillard: Celebrating racism. Good job.
If not, I'm sure he can grandfather you into the Klan. Which is where you belong.
Gilly, can I clue them in yet? I'm laughing my ass off here.
Stupid nigger luvs dem Massa Bush dollazzz!!!!!
Mnemosyne
You don't have to clue anyone in, just wear the hood. That's what they're made for.
This post isn't racist in the least. And being black, I can say that. Steve's more than free to sound off about sellout blacks.
Craig, dear, what race do you think Steve Gilliard is?
Think for a second why we're laughing at your assumptions about him.
Think hard. It'll come to you.
Steve,
You might want to put that picture of yourself back up on the home page.
Personally I think your photo caption is an excellent example of powerful framing. Up there with the DailyKos diary about how in Ohio they didn't count all the votes from "the back of the bus."
Keep calling 'em like you see 'em.
--Jim
Interesting that people like you who are busy calling all conservatives racists, could post such a racist message yourself.
So you believe African-Americans who don't agree with you are all ignorant and corrupt followers? How condescending - and yes,racist.
Do you think being a "good liberal" gives you immunity to write racist posts?
Do you think being a "good liberal" gives you immunity to write racist posts?
That's a good guess. But keep trying.
There's a reason why the vision of Gilly joining the KKK made me laugh out loud. And it's not because he's a liberal.
Listen haterz - Gilliard is my homie nigger!!! We gets payed in OHIO for dem votes!!!!!
Mnemosyne, being black doesn't make his post any less racist.
Somehow, I don't think the Klan will want Steve! As a black man, I have no problem with what he said.
Oh my, this is good: NRO wingers on the attack. Oooohhh, us dumbass librls better watch out!
I think the problem we are having here is just a basic disconnect between definitions of racism. For the most part, whites tend to think racism is in apperances, and blacks in the actual reality of the thing. Calling a person out is much different from speaking from your willful ignorance of their people.
The sad part is that most of the wingers complaining about how racist steve is for calling a brotha out are really mad because they can no longer call black people those names.
Mnemosyne, being black doesn't make his post any less racist.
But it will make it a little more difficult for him to join the Klan, no matter how many recommendations he gets from Craig.
mnemosyne,
I'm not that stupid, but I'll say again: Wear the hood. Because, you see, it covers your face.
I haven't assumed anything about Mr. Gilliard, other than he's an asshole.
It all goes to show that intolerant, ad hominem attacks on anyone who disagrees with you can come from anyone - black or white. All human beings should be judged as individuals, not based on their race/gender/religion/sexuality. Being black doesn't excuse you from being held to that same standard.
Its sad that you don't know better.
Craig, yes you are that stupid.
HaterZ - My brotha Gilliard called that nigger Tom out!!!!! Fo' Sho!!!!!!!!
Well, the trolls are all good for a laugh, anyway.
weiner,
Now you've gone and hurt my feelings.
So...Steve calling Williams a shoe-shining house negro is racist? I mean, it's pretty much true. Williams accepted money from the White House to promote NCLB. He's kissing Bush's ass on his show.
Sounds fair to me.
It is interesting the lefties on the thread can only name-call, such as "Stupid," "Trolls," etc.,
Maybe this is why your side can't win an election? Anyone can toss around insults and then congratulate themselves. Its the people who can make a rational, persuasive argument that actually change minds, win elections and make a difference.
So go on, keep insulting everyone who thinks differently. We'll see how smug you are after the next election. 
I didn't name call.
Yet more evidence: All liberals are racist bigots.
I would stick around to debate, but there doesn't seem to be anything TO debate. Just over-privileged leftists calling men and women of color names. How...typical. Senator Byrd would be proud.
Steve once again you rang the balls of the NRO wing nuts by slaming their token puppet Williams.
Its brought out their gutless white minions to call you a racist for exposing a man who whored himself to a party that is patentedly racist.
Rodger,
What a balanced and well reasoned argument.
And yes, we are "patentedly" racist.
Byrd has a klan spot open-- if you're interested.
From dictionary.com:
"Racism"
"1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race."
How is a black man talking about another black man racist again? Shannon is on the mark.
You bunch of geeks. It's past midnight and you losers are arguing politics. Tell ya what, Steve G & Co... how aboout I tell you what it's like to kiss a girl? I know you're wondering... Unless you'd rather watch Star Wars again after you finish farting around on here. Get a fuckin' life, assholes.
I posted this on another thread but I wanted to hear what the commenters on this thread think about the possibility that J.A.G. is an instrument of propaganda.
For the first time I watched this show with my kids tonight. J.A.G. has been on the air a long time though we had never watched it.
As I learn about this Armstrong episode I have been able to put my finger on what made tonight's show seem to have a propagandistic agenda, presenting certain controversies regarding Mid-East relations, the War on Terror, the Strategic Defense Initiative and Vietnam War historiography as settled issues.
Please take the time to observe J.A.G. for evidence it is a propagandistic instrument of powerful corporate interests or an instrument of state propaganda.
With vigilance and good detective work we may find that Schwartneggar's True Lies was the propagandistic overture to the entire War on Terror and Iraq War Tragic Opera we tune into every night with Jamie Lee Curtis playing the roll of Abu Graib victim to Arnold's MP.
"How is a black man talking about another black man racist again?"
When he does it to accuse the Executive branch of being racist by having any truck with the scudder.
Y'all should have sicced the Bloodhounds on Armstrong.
Wait.. You did.
Williams is about to find out what what the rest of us already know about the GOP.
I haven't assumed anything about Mr. Gilliard, other than he's an asshole.
You suggested that he join the KKK. Either you were making an assumption that he was white, or you were hoping to get him lynched.
Which was it?
Isn't this just precious? A horde of NRO fucktards streaming over here to sob gentle sobs about how Steve is a racist?
Brilliant comedy all around.
Steve,
there was just this enormous fire in the building next door. About five trucks and an ambulance and SWAT team or bomb squad guys, and sirens and flashing lights and ladders and breaking glass... most unnerving. They've been here for an hour or so.
They're leaving now.
The glamorous life, here in the city.
I heard that this is where all the liberal white power scum bags are hanging out.
I had never heard of such a thing, so I dropped in to see what it was all about.
I clicked around enough to learn that it was just a bunch of blatherskite from some ignorant lout.
Stop the Hate.
Mnemosyne,
I don't want anyone lynched. Even liberals.
I didn't know Mr. Gilliard's color\race\creed.
It did occur to me that he might be African-American because of the language used. Because I'm a mick I feel free to throw that term--admittedly not that perjorative--about.
I guess what offended me about the post was that Steve Gilliard made it all about race rather than venality.
I think Williams was wrong to take that money and I think the Bush Administration was wrong to give it to him.
The language used offended me. And not because as one commenter wrote that we rightwingers are pissed because we don't get to call people those names anymore. (It been days since I called anyone Massah)
No, it's because if you can't articulate a policy difference without resorting to name calling, well, where are you? Nowhere.
Craig
Why don't you just call him a nigger and get it over with? And, who uses the term "Negro" anymore? You racist asshole.
I guess what offended me about the post was that Steve Gilliard made it all about race rather than venality.
That's part of the problem of going to strange blogs and posting on them. This is something Steve posts about a lot. At least once or twice a week.
Why? Well, you'd have to ask him for sure, but I'd say that he feels like he has a different perspective on it since, unlike Jonah Goldberg, he is not white. He's black.
You may not like his perspective on it, but that's no reason to show up, claim he's a racist, and snipe that he should join the KKK without stopping to think about why someone would post something so inflammatory.
Steve likes to raise conservatives' hackles. Looks like he suckered in another good-sized batch tonight.
Oh, I'm black, so shut the fuck up please.
I really don't care what you clowns have to say.
But thanks for the hits.
Enlighten me, why would he post something so inflammatory?
And I guess no one should ever go to a strange blog. "Your kind ain't welcome here."
Okay, I'll take it back. He's not a racist. He's just intolerant and close minded.
Forget the KKK thing, they haven't had any clout since the Democrats lost the South, anyway.
"When he does it to accuse the Executive branch of being racist by having any truck with the scudder."
Craig, if you're going to use the word racist, you should know what it means. That's why I posted the definition. Accusing the Executive branch of racism does not make the accuser a racist, if Steve even did that in his post at all. That's not in the definition. Taking that to its logical conclusion, wouldn't that make you a racist for accusing Steve of racism?
If an Irishman is calling another Irishman a "mick" or another derogatory term, as a black man, I feel I have no business sticking my nose in that fight. I wouldn't see that attack as racism because it isn't. It really doesn't bother me at all.
And the Williams incident is not about policy differences. You agree that what he did was wrong.
It occurs to me that these NRO pencil-necks are assuming Steve is white because everybody knows that all black men have names such as Kershaun Carter or something like that. How intelligent. How sensitive. {Snerk!}
Dr. Van Nostrand,
Refresh my memory, what does the word racist mean? I'm ignorant; I can't read the dictionary. So tell me what the word means. I'm deadly serious. Tell me.
I probably am a racist. But I want a definition.
Who can say what to whom when? Can you answer that, asshole?
And just what are you a doctor of?
All this concern and for Mr. Williams' sensitivities! So refreshing.
Williams is just proving again that niggers will do anything for a dime. Even turn on their own.
Of course, that's what Steve's proving too.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." --Marcus Tullius Cicero 42B.C
And just what are you a doctor of?
He's the Doctor of Life!
(They actually had a character known as "The Doctor of Life" on that "7th Heaven" show you righties like so much. I've always wanted to spring that on somebody just to see how something that cornball would go over in real life!)
Williams is just proving again that niggers will do anything for a dime. Even turn on their own.
Of course, that's what Steve's proving too.
Doesn't take very long for those NRO brownshirts to show their true colors, does it? (Red necks, white sheets, and blue noses!)
Loveandlight,
This "rightie" never saw "7th Heaven" is an atheist and ain't impressed by "The Doctor of Life."
So try again.
Loveandlight, I don't think anyone from any side of the political spectrum with more than 10 IQ points to rub together, thinks that 7th Heaven is anything BUT cornball from start to finish.
BTW, what race do you think I am?
You're wrong. My skin is darker than anyone you've ever met, and none of my ancestors were from Africa. I was stolen from my parents and had my culture and land stolen from me, but I've never set foot in America or Europe. I'm not a brownshirt, redneck or bluenose.
Think hard. Lets see if you can get that 11th IQ point.
Svoloch
My own? Nope, sorry. He sold his soul to the GOP and thus has nothing to do with me.
I don't give a fuck what happens to him.
That would probably be Australian aborigine. So your skin is dark like a subsaharan African's is. That legitimizes your apparent hatred of African-Americans exactly how?
>>How is a black man talking about another black man racist again?
That's like saying Armstrong Williams simply expressed his opinions.
I guess Uncle Ruckus was just another black man talking about other black men too.
Also, hate to tell you, svoloch, but all our ancestors were from Africa, so you're wrong there also.
sorry about the repost.
Craig, didn't you suggest above that name calling weakens your argument? Yet, you called me an "asshole." Maybe you should follow your own advice.
I didn't call you a racist. You said Steve was a racist for accusing the White House of racism. I asked you that if you take your argument to its logical conclusion, wouldn't that mean that you were a racist for accusing Steve of racism? You never answered that question.
I provided the definition of racism above in one of my posts. If you can't understand plain words, I can't help you. Good luck in life with that ignorance thing.
Dr. Van Nostrand,
I did call you an asshole. I
shouldn't've. I don't know you well enough to call you that, I'm sorry.
Ad hominem attacks are uncalled for...
I still think that Steve's attack on the administration is racist. I've read the dictionary.
So what are you a doctor of again?
Another thing, Svoloch:
Are you implying that Steve is criticizing Williams "for a dime" because he's fundraising this week? You did say:
"Of course, that's what Steve's proving too."
That's quite a stretch, even for an openly racist NRO denizen!
Well...this is quite intriguing, it's not full moon so that rules that out, the coronat...inaugeration isn't for another 12 days, what gives? The snark you see is the reason people come here - he'll smack down sellouts, and give some damn good commentary too.
Which is more than I can say for some of the insiduous and fetid material found on the other side of the spectrum
"I guess Uncle Ruckus was just another black man talking about other black men too."
Certainly looks that way.
Thor,
Smelling your own piss?
That's a good name by the way--for Dungeons and Dragons...
Mr. Kon Tiki
Eh, pay no attention. Wingers are very well aware that their majority is rooted in the votes of the anti-civil rights South. So they engage in projection.
I've heard what conservatives say about Clarence Thomas in private ... and I've heard what they say when a liberal speaks plain about his shitty record on the court. Projection, fellas. It's all projection.
Gary,
Bullshit. You have not heard what conservatives say about Thomas, becasuse you don't know any conservatives.
And even if you did they damn sure wouldn't confide in you.
And if they did, what you'd hear was PRAISE.
Craig: "Can't articulate a policy difference without name-calling..."
The problem is, you guys can't articulate a policy difference without invading another country and killing 40,000 of it's inhabitants.
With Iraq, you kind of pissed moderation into the bedpan and threw it out the window. We lost interest in gently "articulating policy differences" about the time the WMD's evaporated, and the photos of Abu Ghraib started coming out.
It's all of a piece, and if you think differently, then you aint been paying attention.
Craig:
Don't blink 'cause any flash of respect I had for you just disappeared.
I wasn't directing my vitriol at you - rather to some of the insidious comments made on some right wing (mostly American) sites about the sanctity of some lives over others over the last 3 years.
D&D - never touched the stuff - Fantasy RPG epics never really interested me.
And as for that piss, thanks for getting it all over the comment board, now could you kindly clean it up.
"...and if you think differently, then you ain't been paying attention."
Well, my goodness aren't you just the wittle intellectual. Did you get your starter kit from Michael Moore or did you come up that line ALL on your wittle own?
We were talking about race, not Irag
Take some ritalin and pay attention
Thor,
I blinked. But I don't think I missed a damn thing.
Respectfully
Craig
I see the Conservatives are making very good use of their recently issued 'race card'! I'm in total agreement Steve, and maybe my blogging on the subject might take some of the heat off you?
The Burden Of Blackness
This is one of the most racist things I've ever read.
Sorry, Steve, but this post is offensive and racist. I'm a liberal Democrat and I have no use for Armstrong. I also think that there is nothing wrong in pointing out the irony inherent in black and/or gay Republicans. But to do so with minstrel-show language is just out and out hands-down offensive. What on earth were you thinking?
Your off my blogroll (not that this will put any dent in your traffic, but I don't feel comfortable linking to posts like this).
I guess Gilliard found a way to get some hits on his blog
A lot red-faced anger on the right, and hand-wringing worrying by liberals, about this post.
I found his comments pretty funny. Nothing that you won't hear in the black commomunity if this guys name comes up.
Your off my blogroll.
Ooooooh - that told him!
Jeff,
You're right about the hits, but they won't last, in my opinion.
"A lot of red-faced anger on the right.." Now there I think you've lost it. I can't speak for others, but this sort of stuff doesn't make me red in the face--other than with laughter. Get a clue man, it's the 21st century.
Also, I doubt very many liberals actually wring their hands over it either.
You need some new metaphors....
And It's community, not commomunity.
Not a rhetorical question:
Since Ted Rall, who is white, did essentially the exact same bit regarding Dr. Condi Rice, is he a racist?
Shit! I'd never thought about Steve being black or white. I just thought he was pretty damn smart. But he might be a 52-year old white woman in disguise because I am, and I blogged on this NCLB abomination at about the same time...
So its okay for a white liberal to use words widely understood to be racist to mock something a black man?
And that's not inherently racist?
Williams and whoever gave him the money were wrong, stupidly so. But does this obvious mistake suddenly license "enlightened" liberals to use racist remarks?
If this is the new "standard" for loosing racist invective I assume the next time a black leader pays off a mistress, refuses to pay a court judgement or makes some similar "mistake in judgement" any racist commentary will be equally fair game.
Make a mistake, get called a "sambo". That sounds intelligent.
jag,
Language. The power of language. Forget that music hath charms to soothe the savage breast. Language does all that and more. Language is always colonized first or at least second when controlling people is the underlying motive. So, in order to take back power, you take back language. You use the dominators words to get your message across.
Read some history, anthropology, sociology. Write some. Write a lot. Discover the power of taking back the language. It becomes crystal clear after only a little while.
"Discover the power of taking back the language." A steaming pile of horse crap. Discover the power of that.
What Armstrong Williams did was wrong. But then again, you're a racist fucking cunt.
The story was supposed to be about this unethical payment to a journalist, but you made it about racism.
Not the sharptest tool in the shed, are you, Steve?
Anyone know if coulter and goldberg have taken a 1/4 mil from the kkk (or just free garb)? Just askin'.
Instapundit linked to Jonah Goldberg linked to this site. The swarm of locusts has begun.
Craig,
Such a language adept. Your momma must be mighty proud.
You shouldn't call Steve a racist. I mean he obviously has a problem with white people, but it is unfair to paint him with that brush.
What he is, is obvious. He's a self hating, malcontented, "blame everything on the man" loser, who happens to be black.
I don't know how Mr. Gilliard feels about reparations for slavery and all that jazz, but he seems to take a very light-hearted view towards the institution of slavery, with all of his "tongue-in-cheek" massas and such. I'm sure Frederick Douglass would be proud.
anne - "He's a self hating, malcontented, "blame everything on the man" loser, who happens to be black."
I had a comment about being of jewish heritage and getting attacked as "self-hating" because I oppose the exceses of the Israeli/Zionist juggernaut.
Your little rant saved me the trouble. Steve expresses himself vividly at times but he has every right to jump all over this absolutely corrupt and, shall we say, racial sellout.
Instapundit linked to Jonah Goldberg linked to this site. The swarm of locusts has begun.
Christ almighty, Reynolds (AKA "Isntapundit") is such a sorry-ass little whore sometimes.
Wow, you're a total asshole. Congratulations. Maybe Armstrong should become liberal and join the 90% of his race that are on the Democratic plantation, because we know THEY don't serve any "white massas", since they are sooooo good at getting leadership positions for black folks. Like Bill Clinton, our "first black President".
Wow, the writer of this artical is black, but he is one hell of a racist black man.
Your point might seem more reasonable or persuasive if it wasn't littered with racism and bigotry. I see that massa crap, and you get tuned out pretty quick.
Why is it so acceptable for black people to slander black people using racist terms (aunt jemimah for Condi, or uncle tom for Powell)? You are demeaning them for being black, and their political beliefs. You have to have both (being black and conservative) to get berated by other blacks with such racist terms. You wouldn't do that to someone who is just conservative or just black. Racism oozes from terms like that, and the color of your skin should not exempt you from racism. That would be...stupidity.
From Jonah Goldberg:
Readers are telling me this guy is black. Ok, so if we want, we can play the usual games about whether or not blacks can be racists when talking about other blacks. Particularly when smug, un-funny, liberal blacks talk about conservative ones (since we know it's not allowed the other way around). Or we can declare in advance that we find such post-modern thumbsucking racial seminars very boring and ignore the whole thing. The guy's post still strikes me as racist, offensive and idiotic and the fact that he's black may make it more interesting for people who play those games, but not for me. His commnets are gross and his skin color doesn't make them hip.
Oh, nice attempt to spin yourself out of the rhetorical hole you dug for yourself, Jonah. Are conservatives these days required to take Disingenuousness 101 as some kind of prerequisite or something?
wait, if steve is a racist, does that mean he thinks all black people (including himself) are the same? in that case, is he calling himself a sellout for accepting a quarter-mil from bush while masquerading as a journalist? i'm confused.
congrats on all the trolls, er, principled conservatives, steve. you seem to have touched a nerve.
As a fellow minority (I am hispanic/arab muslim) let me also say that Thomas Sowell and Colin Powell are the same as house niggers and are moving this country back to its shameful roots of slavery (of democracts and liberals). watch how quick they make note of this post (like the neo-nazi Goldberg charatcer mentioned above does).
As a longtime Gilliard reader, I must say that you National Review people are about the stupidest bunch of fuckers I've ever seen in my life. Do you know anything about Gilliard?
Maybe a quick perusal of the archives will enlighten you. People like you are why I left the Republican Party. Too many people that won't bother to investigate and look into a situation before coming to an opinion.
Fucking morons.
but he seems to take a very light-hearted view towards the institution of slavery, with all of his "tongue-in-cheek" massas and such. I'm sure Frederick Douglass would be proud.
Brian, you are obviously totally ignorant of the writings of Frederick Douglass and his frequent use of humor.
Who appointed all the white wingnuts here this morning as the arbiters of whether a black man was being racist towards another black man? As if they even know what racism is. They think it's about name-calling. I'm ROTFL.
Love, of course Steve is doing it for a dime. Look to the right. See the blogads?
Someone else way up there says all "our" (I assume he means human) ancestors come from Africa. Let me think through this logic.
It's clear that the majority opinion here is that those with African ancestors cannot be accused of being racist. Does that now mean that David Duke is not racist?
Steve apparently believes that Williams supported a republican policy that hurt black Americans, and got money for his support. There are countless black Americans that support Democrat policies that hurt black Americans, and they don't get a dime. If Williams is a whore, at least he gets paid for it. Those on the left are giving it away for free.
You are black Steve? Go outside and pick my cotton, you fucking negro. Do it now, or I'll whip yo black azz.
Wow, Svoloch has me thinking that the NRO crowd are schooled in both disingenuouness *and* lame chop-logic!
You ought to thank the NRO, "the stupidest bunch of fuckers" (nice, Tony Shifflett, do have a novel in the works or anything?) for the spike in readership.
Once the conservatives stop linking and reading, then you'll be relegated back to the bitter, whining, race-baiting obscurity whence you came.
James Wolcott makes a nice bow in Steve's direction today http://jameswolcott.com/
Lovie, what is the NRO crowd? Northern Railroad Ontology? Navy Reconnisance Office? National Reconstruction Organization? Nearly Random Order? No Reasonable Orchestra? I'm lost.
NRO, whence Goldberg, hence NRO crowd. Perhaps you're the "Instapundit" crowd? I've never seen you posting on SGNB before.
Horrible Person, my understanding is that Steve's making quite a nice living doing this exclusively. Your collective ego is a tad bit inflated. I bet you think the President has a man-date too.
Christ almighty, Reynolds (AKA "Isntapundit") is such a sorry-ass little whore sometimes.
- Loveandlight
Uh-huh. Spoken like a true liberal. Glad to see the recent GOP ass-whipping your party received hasn't stopped you all from spreading all that love and light around.
And Steve, thanks for reminding me why I left the Democrat Party. Racist asshole.
dave (above):
"The story was supposed to be about this unethical payment to a journalist, but you made it about racism."
Are you not aware that the Bush Administration chose Williams to be the propaganda mouthpiece explicitly because he was black and the terms of his contract involved marketing explicitly to other black journalists?
(Read the USA Today story again)
Are you going to try to explain how the selection of Williams by the Bush Administration in the first place to enter into this unethical, dishonest and corrupt relationship had nothing at all to do with race?
Face it, Steve's post was dead-on.
The Administration's best attempt to gain support from the black citizenry is based on putting forth hollow appearances exploiting race, orchestrating a puppetry show, and executed with bribery of a character willing to play the Uncle Tom role.
Having read this thread, I have but one thing to say:
PRAISE GOD! Praise GOD that the White Conservative Man hath come to CLEANSE the black man of his racist tendencies, for without the WHITE CONSERVATIVE MAN, we all know blacks would go nowhere! PRAISE GOD!
Seriously, guys, I find it more than a bit funny that a bunch of white conservatives have come down to the ghetto to patiently explain to the stupid black man how his treatment of his fellow black man is racist.
Good show, guys. How about for an encore you go explain to some Native Americans that if only they'd stop being so damn poor, they wouldn't live on reservations?
Why is taking money and doing what you can to deceive the American public an issue here?
The ENTIRE conservtaive movement received likely MOST of its financing (and I would add guidance) in the 80s from Moon. Moon's goal is NOT a nice democratic world.
Conservatives are a bunch of lying, power hungry, soul sellers.
Funny the left doesn't mention Moon, not on TV for sure, and are as responsible as the right for the country being unaware of Moon's manipulations of our political processes check it out here.
Oh and yes, the conservatives used the MOONIES to promote Bush faith based theocratizing efforts. The FBInitiative is a lesson in buying off black votes. Do you understand the republicans worked with Moon, a man who claims to be the Messiah and wants to make our country a theocratic fascist state to promote the FBIn? The republicans used MOON to destroy the wall of separation! We are becoming exactly what Moon planned 30 years ago and the republican party sold the country out to him. read some of that here.
Without Moon's billions (much of which he made by ripping off widows in Japan) Bush would NOT be president. The religious extremists wouldn't control the republican party and our country.
No one looks at the root cause of our country's drive to theofascist hell.
Why?
What the stupid shit-eating right-wing animals fail to grasp is the fact that black people are NOT ALLOWED to be conservative. They OWE the white left and they'd damn well better pay up. We own them.
Where did Clarence get the nerve to think for himself? Ha. Keep it up Steve. The Klan needs more like you to keep the uppity independent-thinkers in their place.
All you NRO wingnuts:
Steve's post was about the shady ethics of Armstrong Williams taking a payout to whore a Bush program on his show. (His contract has been terminated today, effective immediately, so that shows how highly his bosses think of his little stunt. AND he's not returning the money.)
Now, in the post, Steve happened to refer to Williams as the "n" word. I'm white, so I don't feel I have the right to say it. But Steve is black, so he can. I'm Irish, so if my buddy Sully calls me a mick, no foul. See how that works?
But, congratulations on youyr prowess at throwing shit just to see what sticks. You saw that one word, and blocked out everything else of interest. Bush bribes journalists to whore his sketchy programs? No problem. But DON'T CALL HIM RACIST NAMES OR WE'LL TROLL YOU TO DEATH!!!!
Jeebus.
KKK - "Where did Clarence get the nerve to think for himself?"
Thanks. I needed a laugh after all this serious name calling. Oh, but maybe you weren't being satiric?
I love posts like this. They expose and prove once again how racist the left is.
This is so funny. These NRO types are scrathing there balls trying to make this racist. Ha Ha Ha this is getting funnier by the minute.
Oh, wait let me go get the NRO's a shovel so they can dig the hole a little deeper.
Goldberg's responce was so convoluted. Hee Hee Hee, just can't stop laughing.
No way to explain how silly they look. I guess I'll just keep laughing. Ha HA HA, HEE HEE HEE ...
Where did Clarence get the nerve to think for himself? Ha
Where did Clarence "Unka" Thomas ever demonstrate he could think for himself?
Examples, please?
I came over on the NRO link. Has anyone over here considered the possibility of backing up their assertions with facts? Clarence Thomas speaks before audiences in a country that is 90% white. People who like his speeches pay him to speak. What exactly is the problem here? Only money from black people is good money? Don't follow.
There're a lot of comments of the "we rule, you drool" variety, coupled with self-righteous pounding of the chest that you don't argue with your opponents because they never agree that you're right.
Heh.
I saw Armstrong Williams on tv. During part of the segment he did a rant about the evils of liberalism etc.
Unfortunately for him the close up revealed that his outrage was ersatz,WWE outrage.
I suspect that's the same kind of outrage the trolls are pumping out now.
Outrage for outrage's sake the conservative motto.
Asst. Village idiot,
90% white?
I came over on the NRO link. Has anyone over here considered the possibility of backing up their assertions with facts? Clarence Thomas speaks before audiences in a country that is 90% white. People who like his speeches pay him to speak. What exactly is the problem here? Only money from black people is good money? Don't follow.
thomas takes money from rich whites and systematically rejects social programs designed to help blacks. it's the two-fer: Thomas being a whore AND selling out the black community, that is the problem.
Rich whites using minority lackeys like malkin, d'souza, or thomas as voices for their racism is atrocious, sure ... but we expect it from them. The actual minority whores themselves, however, deserve special condemnation and contempt, especially from other minorities.
Asst. Village idiot,
90% white?
ladder
whoo hoo!!!! only 75% white. a few more years, and we may actually have a democracy.
All of this talk about race, Jeebus! I'm Native American, you can all go back to where you came from.
Except Steve, I love this site!
too many racist comments. wrong is wrong; no problem. calling williams or powell or rice house negroes or sambo is wrong. amazing.
Norah et al:
Since Ted Rall, who is white, did essentially the exact same bit regarding Dr. Condi Rice, is he a racist?
Looks like I'm a little late to the party, but will throw in my two cents now anyway (my poor home computer is down).
As I've said before and I'll say again: The amazing amount of trolls who came here to leave a nasty post for Steve and anyone else who supports him is astonishing. But, of course, if you go to the fucking Corner, there's no place to leave a comment because those sickening conservatives really can't have an open dialogue. Yer all a bunch of fucking cowards.
If Williams is a whore, at least he gets paid for it. Those on the left are giving it away for free.
if you give it away for free, you're not a whore. there are many dictionaries available online to help you.
Boy, they're just loving that word "racist"! Racist this and racist that. It's the Word of the Week!
This horribly racist post is just another reason why I wanted George W. Bush to be re-elected.
Shame shame shame on you liberals.
Y'all must worship at the shrine of Ted Rall.
Armstrong Williams made a mistake. He acknowledges that. If you think failing to report that a paid advertizement was paid by the Department of Education amounts to the kind of thing implied by these terms, then you deserve all the rotten terms being delivered against you. Someone who already held a view that a program was good was hired to run ads that supported that program. This happens all the time in all sorts of media. He was given money to spend time on that issue specifically, just as NPR does all the time. The only thing he didn't do that he should have done is dislose who was paying for it. Since he reports that he didn't even know it was coming from the Bush Administration, this was more negligence than anything else. Even if he's wrong about that, this is not on the order of being paid to promote views that he wouldn't have othewise promoted.
Because of what I said in my last comment, any reaction that connotes subservience to the government is way beyond reality, and then adding in the racist stereotype that a black person taking money from the government is a House Nigga (which couldn't be applied to a white person), combining it with a racist stereotype of how black people ought to help, and then you go into some racist nonsense that all black conservatives have been receiving payments from Whitey, as if mainstream society and government are really uninfluenced by non-white America. The assumption here is that black people can't think for themselves and arrive at views you don't agree with but better go along with what most other black people believe without questioning it, which itself smacks of a plantation mentality.
The fact of the matter is that those who go way beyond what someone has done and start calling them ridiculous things are inviting others to judge them by the same standard. The kind of thing you're doing is damaging to black America and free-thinking Americans of all races. It's therefore a part of the institutional racism that thrives below the surface in our society. What's more disturbing about your version of it, though, is that you seem happy to use outright racist stereotypes to bring those with real racist attitudes to your cause rather than just relying on institutional racism to develop your lack of argument for you. As I said Williams made a mistake, but you have invited much worse than he deserves on yourself for the overreaction and racism you have used in describing his mistake. Judge not, lest ye be judged. The standard by which you judged shall be used against you. Have fun with those who overreact to you.
It's very strange to watch this from overseas. The conservatives are as hard on Williams as the liberals are. They just don't use the racist words to express it.
Benoya, you said:
if you give it away for free, you're not a whore. there are many dictionaries available online to help you.
Yes. I didn't say those on the left are whores. I said they were giving it away for free. That was the point. At least the conservative has the smarts to get MONEY when he sells out, not just pats on the head.
Steve Gilliard- what a loser.
kast -- what a dullard.
Sorry I came to the party so late.
Damn, this is the most amazing stuff I've read in a long, long time.
I've lived to see Steve called a racist. I think I'll play the Lottery tomorrow.
SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP....
I can't believe what I am reading on here. I am a moderate republican living in NYC and the amount of racist trash coming out here is disgusting. You people on the left who are for freedom of speech and tolerance are outdoing yourselves by showing that you are all the offspring of Robert "KKK" Byrd.
I cannot and do not exscuse anything that Rod Paige or Armstong Williams have done. That is disgusting and unethical and I agree whole heartedly in that. Does that give us the right to start talking about "Massa" and "House Negros" I think not and am disgusted by what I am reading here. Not everyone posting here is doing that and a if you have a legitimate opinion fine.
If you want to spew your racist vomit and then defend it by claiming the other side is worse you don't deserve to win any elections for the white hourse or even your city council.
Slaves don't get paid.
This post is absurdly dim witted.
I posted a comment above objecting to the language of the post without recognizing that Steve is African-American and thus suggesting it was racist. That was my mistake. Steve has every right (although I don't) to appropriate the language he did to make his point.
Al Sharpton is a chracature.
And I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on Bill Cosby and his criticism about black America. Is he kissing up to the "massa" too? Or is he a man speaking his mind?
What Williams did is appalling. But he did it for greed and he did it for money. Not to be more "white", as your post would suggest.
I also don't fall into a belief that because you are black, that you can use language such as this. I hear young black men calling each other "n*gg*a" constantly. And when I ask how this can be appropraite, I get a "this is to remember where we came from" or some bullshit likfe that.
Give me a fucking break.
Jesse Jackson has embezzled millions. Armstrong Williams took unethical money from the government. Here's an idea: why don't we criticize them because of their RACE... not their behavior. So blacks can continue to be marginalized in society. And so black women can continue to be objectified by their own community.
I hope someone can hear my sarcasm.
Christ, this revolts me so much I could vomit.
Excellent, wingers, you have managed to turn a discussion of the ethics of an administration paying to disseminate propganda to her own citizens into shrill calls of racism. Becausem you know, that's what's important; not the fecklessness of a President who pays the media to lie to the American people.
I will say as satire, though, this post is too broad. Remember Lady Montagu.
"Satire should, like a polished razor keen,
Wound with a touch that's scarcely felt or seen.
Thine is an oyster knife, that hacks and hews;
The rage but not the talent to abuse."
What a lively discussion. I tend to agree with Steve's opinion, and I can understand the frustration he has with Black ultra conservatives. I share it.
I would like to hear Bill Cosby's opinion on the Armstrong Williams scandal. I agree with his other assessment of our people.
Great column, Steve.
Needed to be said.
Williams suffers from the Rice/Powell/Malkin/Keyes/Blackwell/DeSouza Syndrome. They think if they suck up to the GOP massas long enough, they'll be able to sit at the big table in the big house.
Gotta admit: all those hours on her knees under Bush's desk have sure paid off handsomely for Condi!
willow:
You are an idiot, and we don't need people like you around.
Hope the door didn't hit you too hard in the ass on the way out.
The trolls on this board are pathetic.
NOTHING, but NOTHING will ever convince them that they are on the WRONG side.
Just like their hero, Preznit Jerkoff, they are never wrong about anything.
i'm a former newspaper reporter, and this makes my blood boil. to me, it's bad enough to be a coward, but worse to be a WHORE -- to have advertisers dictate content in exchange for advertising.
*****************Oh give me a break.... This isn't new. It happens in the Gay Press all the time.
This particular deal stinks though.
Over at the Cincinnati Black Blog we are trying to get away from the side issues and focus on Armstrong Williams's apparent multiple law violations.
Truly fascinating discussion. Very illuminating.
Certainly, what Armstrong did was wrong and he's admitted that he should have disclosed his relationship with the DOE.
But I think calling it "whoring" or unethical is a stretch. Armstrong is also a businessmoan dealing in public relations, and as such has clients. His primary demographic is the black community, the very people who would most benefit from NCLB and who tend to support the program the more they hear about it.
Now if you are one of those hard-leftist Americans who seem to populate this blog, you are very likely going to object strongly to my comments above. For one thing, anyone dealing in public relations - let along running a PR business - is going to be a "whore" to you (no matter whom they represent or their disclosures). Secondly, it's clear you believe NCLB is a sham. But this is simply your *opinion* - and not the absolute truth you treat is as.
So, it seems to me the grounds upon which you call those who disagree with you "stupid" and other vile epithets are matters of opinion. This, I think, is the best example of the malignancy currently hobbling the Left today.
What bothers me most, though, is the attitude here that *no one* who holds conservative political values could possibly be anything other than greedy or stupid or malicious. This demonstrates to me and I'm sure to a great many other non-leftist Americans that you are incable of understanding or debate beyond your narrowly defined leftism. This I think explains all the name-calling typical at sites like this one.
I keep expecting them to grow out of this, but it's still too soon. At least they are no longer doing any harm to anyone but themselves (on domestic issues at least).
If sirloin would like to see some examples of right-wing troll immaturity, he should go to the comment thread for "Why I hold the right in contempt", where the right faitfully demonstrates itself fully worthy of said contempt. As vachon so adeptly said, it was like WalMart on Xmas Eve over there!
sorry for the repost
Dear Craig:
As a white woman whose family is “Multi-Cultural,” I must tell you that I found Steve’s post hysterically funny and right on. As to your comment that conservatives don’t trash talk Clarence Thomas, I must dissent. Conservatives, and wingnuts, feel perfectly free and safe in saying terrible things about him in my presence. I guess because I am white and they think I will agree. Or, perhaps it is because I am liberal, and they think that I will agree. None the less, they do trash talk him as their “boy.” Neither Conservatives, wingnuts, nor liberals think that Clarence Thomas is anything approaching a legal scholar. Now my perspective is different as I knew him from his “Holy Crotch” days when he was just an opportunist. I don’t believe much has changed.
As to Armstrong Williams and his opportunism, Steve G. is right on!
Tuli
Dear Craig:
I forgot to mention that the BushCo. Administration didn’t hire Armstrong Williams to get the message out to “America.” They hired him to get the “message” out to “Black America and Black Journalists.” So, just exactly who is racist? Did they really need an African-American to do this? Why not Grover Norquist, or Juan Williams, or maybe even Krauthammer, Will, or Safire? It seems to me that if the “message” is legitimate the Administration wouldn’t need to target it by using an African-American, but just an American. Perhaps I am wrong but the use of Armstrong Williams and his willingness to be a shill to target the African-American community is the racist part of this episode.
But then I could be wrong.
Tuli
"Sambo"?, "Massa"? The "N" word? Is this what passes for enlightened liberal commentary these days?
I really don't care whether Steve Gilliard is black, white, or whatever. This is shameful commentary at best, downright reactionary and racist at worst. If Steve is black, hiding behind his race won't get him off any easier than he'd let Clarence Thomas off for his political viewpoints despite his his own ethnic background.
The situation with Armstrong is troubling because Armstrong is a commentator, but it is not unusual for the U.S. government to spend money to promote governmental policy. It is because Armstrong is an ideological commentator rather than a paid advertiser or public representative for the government that there is a problem here. All the racial stuff Gilliard drags out is just another attempt to ignorantly denigrate someone's ethnic credentials because they don't subscribe to the same blinkered views as himself. It's the most pathetic kind of criticism, and one that doesn't even make a rhetorical scratch regarding the policies Armstrong was hired to promote, much less the legitimate questions regarding why he was hired to do so. Gilliard should be embarrassed, but the most embarrassing thing about this post is how obvious it is that he's not.
Finally to Tuli, why is it racist to choose an African American to promote a policy that is primarily targeted to support and aid African Americans. Why am I troubled by the feeling in the back of my mind that if the White House had chosen a liberal African American who supported the poilcy that you;d have no problem with it, or that if they'd chosen, say Arnold Schwarzenegger, that we'd be hearing how racist it was NOT to choose someone of color. I realize that this may not be your viewpoint personally, but I suspect that false dichotomy is at the heart of the more partisan participants of this forum.
A little more review and yes, it's obvious that A) Steve Gilliard is black and B) doesn't give a rats about how embarassing and juvenile his post was.
As to A, I stand by my comment above regarding that hiding behind your race when you take a racial approach is pure balderdash. Racism is exactly seeing things purely in terms of race. Pillorying Armstrong because he doesn't toe the racial political line that black liberals set up is racist, pure and simple, as would be any political viewpoint that assumes people of race need be wedded to one end of the political spectrum. It's ignorant nonsense masquerading as argument. as for B) Steve, you have embarrassed yourself. all the denials and "I don't cares" whether laced with creative variations of the "F" word or not only compund your problem. That you can't see it doesn't make you right. It makes you pathetic. Oh, and you're welcome for all the hits...the more people who see this kind of pathetic excuse for an argument, the faster we can get people to discuss the real issues, instead of this racist nonsense.
Have fun deleting my posts...
I have one question for all you people from the Right. How are we to agree with you that Steve is a racist, when you insisted the Swift Boat Vets were truthful, Richard Clarke was wrong and most of you think WMDs' were found?
You keep calling Steve a racist, but never detailing why.
In principle, I would say that anytime one uses race as a major determinant of a person's character -that is racism in my book.
"I have a dream that ... one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." I take these words seriously.
Others might say that racism is anytime a black person percieves that he is treated unfairly.
Have fun deleting my posts...
You flatter yourself.
What Steve is saying is that it's not just a matter of being on one end of some theoretically racially neutral political spectrum, it's a matter of the fact that there's a history of the American right consistently attempting to stand in the way of people of color's progress in this country. The fact that the Republicans still rely on the infamous "Southern Strategy" to remain in power makes "That was then, this is now" counterarguments moot at best and absurd at worst. That's why he accuses Clarence Thomas and Armstrong Williams and their ilk of being opportunistic sell-outs.
Love and Light is misinformed.
The Democratic Party had a worse history on civil rights during reconstruction, and for most of the 20th century the Democrats controlled the South and were in responsible for Jim Crow and segration. Furthermore, Republicans had a big role in passing of civil rights legislation in the 60s. This is history. These are facts that the current civil rights activists would rather you not know.
I've seen nothing to indicate that Republican Southern Strategy is based on race, nothing from what I can tell. In most ways the South is more integrated than the rest of the country. I've lived a number of years in both Nashville and Boston, and Boston has nastier racists.
So if Guillard is basing his charges on this sort of evidence, as you claim, then it is quite clear to me that his arguments are hollow. (In fact, he doesn't even argue - he just makes baseless claims.)
That was before the civil rights movement of the 1960's. After that, the Dixiecrats such as Strom Thurmond went over to the Republican Party. Denying that the Southern Strategy is inherently racial in nature? You may as well try and claim the sky is green!
I must say that having read this thread I can now die happy.
Because the truth always becomes clear after a hundred posts: the wingers humiliated themselves not because they're racists, but because they're squares. They just don't understand jive.
P.S. Bad news, Mr. Gilliard: the KKK has declined your application, even though your granddaddy did put in a good word for you.
Steve Gilliard's post is important not because he's black, or white, or gay, or straight, or smart, or dumb, or elegant, or a boer, or ignorant, or educated. If he's a racist or not a racist, or green-skinned, or red-skinned, or albino doesn't really matter. What he said is true. And it needed to be said.
What he said is a fundamental truth of American politics. I've been waiting for someone to say that for a long time. When I read his original post, I got a rush. And I'm a Canadain whitey, for Christ's sake. It needed to be said.
Every once in a while I try to talk to one of my sisters about American politics and she generally doesn't like it. At any rate, I mentioned that Harry Belefonte said something to the effect that Colin Powell was a "porch nigger." She was taken aback and said that's really rude. I said you're right, but it's true.
Take the color out of it. Armstrong Williams is not a disgrace to the black race. He is a disgrace to the human race.
Political parties use corrupt people to screw the average American. I doesn't matter if it's a black scum or a white scrum.(or hispanic or mexican-you get the idea)
They are equal opportunity employers in that respect. Armstrong Williams is no better (or worse) than the white scum that are doing the same things to the white population.
Take the so called "Social Security crisis." Bush is going to need white Armstrongs and black Armstrongs to sell this pile of crap.
And the white Armstrongs and black Armstrongs will come running for the opportunity, because they are greedy.
And Cit-Group and all the other Wall Street brokers will pay for this because they are going to reap the profits at the expense of guess who- ordinary blacks, whites, hispanics and whoever else is stupid enough to fall for this pile of crap. Then come 2008, these guys will throw so much money at the Republicans, it'll take a Revolution to defeat them.
These companies are expecting their share prices to reach historic levels because it a fabulous windfall for them. Private accounts have already been tried in Chile and Sweden and they are a disaster. But that won't matter if you get enought black and white Armstrongs to shill for Citi-group and Bush.
Anyhow, I've said more than enough, so here's to a better four years than the last four. Drink up lads. You may need it.
(am i the only person who read this and IMMEDIATELY KNEW (or assumed correctly) THAT STEVE IS BLACK?)
brotha man, thank you for today's laugh.
and i love how right wingers are jumping all over you for being "racist." at the very least it's the pot calling the kettle. *lawdy some folks*
How does being black excuse racism? Racism is evil, plain and simple, and these racist stereotypes should not be used to portray anyone. I actually assumed Steve was black. I don't hear this kind of racism from white people. There are other kinds, but this kind is one that I haven't seen outside of black ultra-liberal circles where the separatist mindset (that anything mainstream is Whitey and thus bad) dominates. That in itself is a kind of institutional racism that's extremely harmful to black Americans, and it's shameful that it's propagated mostly among black people.
This is great stuff. I think everybody should own......a blog.
Mr. Gillard;
Does being black yourself automatically indemnify you against charges of racism? I ask this question seriously. Williams was wrong. But to point this out by using his race as a bat to beat him with strikes me as the tactics of a weak or insecure man. Your essay does not help to elevate the dialogue between races. Please send me the links to your diatribes against Jesse, Rev. Al and Farrakhan, as I am sure you could not be so hypocritical as to have overlooked their many lamentable or even comical misteps. Awaiting your response...
omfg this is too funny. The real issue here is Armstrong did something illegal, unethical. The writer made his point. Intelligent people understand the racisim that abounds in the GOP and got the wit. To those who are pulling a Lynne Cheney -- "oh my God I'm astounded" they used that kind of language -- read more, talk less.
the righties (like the pathetically incompentent Condi Rice) toss out that it was the Democrats that were the racist party in the South (which is true) and that the Republicans took over the South without racist support. Well, winger morons, here's an overview. 1850-1948: Democrats the racist party that dominated the South. 1948-present: the Democrats nationally developed a conscience and embraced Civil Rights. 1850-1948: the GOP was more inclined toward Civil Rights and were nowhere in the South. 1948-present: the GOP embraced the racists that left the Dems, and racism defined their appeal there, which it still is. And now the GOP dominates the South. Because whichever party is more racist will win the South. Very sad, but undoubtably true.
Yes, you're "stupidity is amazing", because if you had better than a high school education you would know that Republicans supported the Civil Rights Act in Congress by a much higher percentage than Democrats.
Keep paying homage to Kleagle Byrd and you will continue to draw sympathy rather than respect.
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