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America has a stupidity problem, and it's name is "Bush Voter." Pass it on.
Ivor the Engine Driver |
09.02.05 - 10:29 pm | #
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Fuckin A.
John Gorenfeld |
09.02.05 - 10:29 pm | #
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I couldn't have said it better. I e-mailed this post to everyone I know.
Stock up, my friends. Because if there is a natural disaster or a terrorist attack in your area, you're on your own.
I'm getting cases of water and canned goods tomorrow to keep stocked in our basement. I will NOT be stuck in a Superdome watching my daughter get raped.
God help those people still stuck in NOLA!
Ticked off |
09.02.05 - 10:35 pm | #
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Bravo, Steve. Maybe more of the country will wake up to what we New Yorkers knew more than a year before 9-11 about Prince Bush.
Maybe ...
Gracchus |
09.02.05 - 10:36 pm | #
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You know what? The message won't get through. I work next to a woman who describes herself as a political independent, but she's a wingnut. I think she's sincere: She really thinks she's an independent. She told me yesterday that she voted for Bush twice because he was the best of a sorry lot of candidates. Better than Gore, she believes. Better than Kerry.
Anyway, she thinks that anyone who criticizes the federal government's passiveness after Katrina is a Monday morning quarterback who never does anything in life and merely criticizes people who take action.
She doesn't judge Bush and the federal government by results, but by effort -- which she believes is heroically active. We critics are twerps who are too weak to actually get off our asses and do something, she believes.
I'm sure a substantial minority of Americans -- maybe a plurality -- think the same way. There will be no Great Awakening.
Holdie Lewie |
09.02.05 - 10:36 pm | #
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You should tell us how you really feel. Stop holding back like this.
How's this for an idea for the conservatives you're talking to. How about next time we don't elect a cokehead fratboy to be the "leader" of what we used to call the free world or of the United States. Let's try someone competent and see what happens.
zen Yenta |
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09.02.05 - 10:37 pm | #
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Steve: I understand your anger, but this is not the time for finger pointing. It's the time for calm, moderate, actions like putting the entire Bush administration on a chain gang and sentencing them to clean the streets of NOLO on their hands and knees for the rest of the their miserable, ugly, wasteful lives.
citizen k |
09.02.05 - 10:39 pm | #
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Holdie Lewie,
She's an idiot
steve_gilliard |
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09.02.05 - 10:40 pm | #
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!!!
The Liberal Avenger |
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09.02.05 - 10:42 pm | #
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The most dangerous thing to average Americans is not some mullah in Iraq, not even Osama Bin Laden, but George Bush.
On point.
the hu? |
09.02.05 - 10:42 pm | #
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Citizen K, the only suggestion I would make to your proposal is that none of those incompetent fucks should be given brushes.
DJ |
09.02.05 - 10:46 pm | #
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steve,
exactly
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Hubris Sonic |
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09.02.05 - 10:46 pm | #
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Fuck, look at Bush's history, I wouldn't hire him to be a softball coach. How the fuck did he get in office???
passerby |
09.02.05 - 10:47 pm | #
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You are so right. Thanks.
Rick Penn |
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09.02.05 - 10:50 pm | #
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Re the pic; they will prosecute her for desecrating the flag if they can identify her.
DonS |
09.02.05 - 10:52 pm | #
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On fire, Gilliard.
driftglass |
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09.02.05 - 10:52 pm | #
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This is the greatest post I have read in months and possibly ever. Finally! This one says it all.
I owe you a beer!
Joe in SF |
09.02.05 - 10:53 pm | #
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Damn. After that I've almost forgiven you for your deranged anti-PETA screed.
Well done.
Angus |
09.02.05 - 10:53 pm | #
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Man, you know how to hurt a guy.
"as naked as Peter North around Jenna Jameson."
Now that is really taking the time with your analogies.
I only hope enough people reach the wakeup moment. I absolutely identify with the sentiment: NOW people get it? Jeeeeeeessssuuuuussss, the evidence has been right there for years that this guy was a complete fucktard.
Some Guy |
09.02.05 - 10:56 pm | #
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DJ: You must be some bleeding heart liberal. The idea of giving those slimeballs brushes never crossed my mind.
citizen k |
09.02.05 - 10:56 pm | #
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The white house actually had the nerve to complain about an ideological bias in the press coverage from this week.
See the thing is that for most "movement conservatives" criticism from the media and anyone not firmly in their thought camp simply proves their worldview. Their worldview has the USA as a fallen nation that needs to undergo political ablution and cultural redemption in order to restore it to "greatness."
They love the pictures of desperate, out-of-control black folks. It's political sustenance for them. They've already started in on the drumbeat of how Katrina was good because it exposes the depth of the America's junkie-like addiction to the welfare state. Come Nov. '06 they will be eagerly using the footage of looters to scare middle class voters in yet another endorsement of their slow-motion cultural revolution.
They don't care how many have to die in order to succeed.
bow_down |
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09.02.05 - 10:58 pm | #
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preach it, man.
Screw the people who still don't get it. Their time is over.
keir |
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09.02.05 - 10:59 pm | #
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This is the post that needs to be printed on the op-ed page of the NY Times.
Please sanitize for language and submit, immediately.
phein |
09.02.05 - 11:01 pm | #
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Fuck yeah, boss. If you're ever in Lubbock, TX, beers are on me.
Sean Foley |
09.02.05 - 11:04 pm | #
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Steve, in a dangerous time and a dangerous world, there is no option to fail. There is no option for American failure. We can not fail our country. IMPEACH BUSH NOW! The continued destruction of the American Dream can not be tolerated.
And I am ashamed that the Democratic Party has not started to present this idea as both rational and prudent for America.
Amuseinc |
09.02.05 - 11:09 pm | #
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Damn that was good.
Clor |
09.02.05 - 11:10 pm | #
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Citizen K -- good one! I was thinking of the great Monty Python sketch where Ken Shabby is trying to impress Rosamund's father with his career (cleaning out public lavatories). Promotion is a possibility -- after five years, he gets a brush.
DJ |
09.02.05 - 11:14 pm | #
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Something that hasn't really been talked about yet.
Wait for the upcoming riots in Iraq in response to this hurricane. Riots in Iraq? Yes, riots by the thousands of soldiers, guards, and reserves in Iraq who are from Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama who are watching this on TV and who are finding out that their families are homeless and hungry at best, dead or injured at worst. And then wait until they hear the news that they are going to be continuing their shitty meangless daily patrols in Iraq while their wives, children, mothers, and sisters are suffering homeless in tent cities.
OK, soldiers aren't going to riot. But imagine the festering seething helpless rage that so many of those married guard and reservists must be feeling knowing that they gave up their jobs and their lives to serve the Chimp's little game in Iraq and now he pulls this level of criminal incompetence on their families. I'm usually a contemplative rational person and if I was in that position I'd be scheming right now about to seize a transport plane back to the US.
Things are going to get a whole lot more ugly in Iraq.
Kent |
09.02.05 - 11:16 pm | #
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"The most dangerous thing to average Americans is not some mullah in Iraq, not even Osama Bin Laden, but George Bush."
I know somebody already genuflected to this point-, but its the central one, and it needs another underline.
It's why the best thing that could happen in Iraq is, sorry, but you lose this one. It's for your own fucking good-, and New Orleans is ANOTHER demonstrator of that.
If by some fluke the Bushtits won in Iraq, of which there is a better chance the sun will not rise tomorrow, they would go on and on wasting your treasure and your working class and black youth in yet more military adventurism. And I know large numbers of you know that by now.
What an incredible time this has been to be a US watcher, from 9/11 to Iraq and now through this Katrina business.For sure the Gods have got to be trying to tell you something.
Canuck Coot |
09.02.05 - 11:20 pm | #
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yea, when shepperd told hannity he was dead wrong on the air...priceless! pictures steve, pictures. we are a very visual society, and pictures make it hurt. complile a picture gallery of NO, Iraq, of it all. show the let them eat cake crowd. great work steve, bravo.
dickylee |
09.02.05 - 11:21 pm | #
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OK, my wife is a medical resident here in Waco Texas, the heart of Bush country. Pretty much all the nurses and staff she works with are hard-core Bush supporters as are most of the doctors. And a bunch of them are his conservative Christian Baptist "base"
And my wife tells me that there is utter disbelief and rage in the local hospitals about the incompetence on display. They have CNN going in the waiting rooms and the hospital staff are getting a constant feeding of the Chimp's failures. They are not happy. Believe me, the scales are finally falling off people's eyes here in the heart of Bush country.
I really want to see the Senate repubs take up the Paris Hilton tax break next week. They're going to do it anyway. Let's just see them do it now and see how well those images play superimposed against this disaster.
Kent |
09.02.05 - 11:23 pm | #
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Yo, Gilliard, I like. But that picture kind of said it all for me. Cold fucking comfort.
Holdie Lewie,
You're right. I just talked to my fucking dad. He's not a dumb guy, but the benign, no-one's-fault, throw-up-your-hands response he had to all this just floored me. I put a lid on the ranting, but our conversation just led to this uncomfortable silence. The subtext was, "rAD, you're the wingnut here, buddy." I think that sort of impotence, that kind of cut-nut shrinking-from-all-things-political thing, is the rule these days with people who aren't frothing from the right or left sides of their mouths.
I think Lance Mannion is right on target with this post. The five awful days we've been experiencing are going to obliterated by the "stories" to come. And people like rAD sR. will be able to rest easy, because when it came down to it, blessedly-apolitical military types, led by a (now) steadfast POTUS, will snatch the remaining people from the jaws of certain death. I hope the media is too pissed to let this meme get momentum. But it's not.
rAD |
09.02.05 - 11:25 pm | #
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Great fucking post, steve.
spencer |
09.02.05 - 11:25 pm | #
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Amen!
Carrier Vet |
09.02.05 - 11:28 pm | #
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Jesus Christ on a Cracker
You ain 't being paid enough Steve.
That was the entire Bush Administration in a nutshell.
That's why I visit here everyday.
Maccabee |
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09.02.05 - 11:29 pm | #
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Brilliant post, Steve.. f*ucking brilliant.
I get the impression from watching Bush that he is bored of being Prez-nit now. His glorious Iraq war isn't going too well. Being "command in chief" and being a "war Prez-nit" is pretty much all he cares about. He doesn't understand that being President isn't just about prancing around in uniform, calling the shots and being "command in chief". Like a child, he craves adulation. That's all this Presidency means to him. He doesn't understand leadership. He doesn't understand the heavy burden of being President of the United States. He doesn't understand that he is responsible for the lives of real people. Katrina doesn't give him an opportunity to be a "War President" and to make threats against the evil-doer ragheads and feel like a big fucking man with empty words and threats like 9/11 did, so he couldn't give a flying fuck. Don't be fooled by his actions today - this is simply damage control. His aides know his lack of engagement looks bad so they rushed to do some damage control and make it looks like he cares. This President does not understand the suffering of the poor and the weak and the disinfranshised. He may say he does, but his words are hollow. His eyes tell a different story. His inappropriate smirks, grins and arrogant demeanour are proof enough that his words are insincere and just political theatre. It is all feigned concern. He is an empty shell of a man.
Look into his eyes - he is bored and listless and uninterested. He is simply going through the motions. Like a child, he's upset his 5 week vacation was ruined by Cindy Sheehan and now this hurricane. He's lost interest in the Presidency... he can't wait to get out of it and dump all the havoc he's created onto the sucker unfortunate enough to inherit the disasters, foreign and domestic, that he has created. That is George W. Bush's history - a fuck-up. A spoiled, rich, bratty-boy who fucked up one thing after another and never had to take responsibility for anything he did. He just walked away from every fuck-up in his life and had someone else clean it up. That will be the legacy of his glorious presidency.
Republicans and people like Bush aren't interested in governing - they are interested in war and conflict. Mundane things like planning and ensuring protection for the weak and the poor is not in their philosophy. They do not believe in the role of government...government is evil.. free-markets solve all problems... tax cuts for the rich trickles down to the poor..personal responsibility, blah, blah. These are their mantras.. their core principles.
This is America's failure. Forget Katrina - Katrina just exposed to the rest of the world what a failed society America is. This is the richest country in the world.. and yet.. look at the levels of abject poverty. What kind of civilized country with so much wealth lets people live in such poverty? These people died because they were fucking poor! And if not for Katrina, people like them die in America because they cannot afford things like health care and a decent standard of living. But those deaths and that kind of suffering is not obvious like what you are seeing with Katrina. Katrina is just a dramatic illustration of what happens when you don't have a decent safety net and a government that is more interested in the welfare of its citizens than the welfare of corporations.
hv |
09.02.05 - 11:30 pm | #
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steve, you've got to be our scribe our seer. compile it all, put it in our faces, tell every story, never let up, make a difference for all of us. your gift of words is god-given (except for the MF's, someone else beat you to those)please please please keep it coming, you might well save America. thank you
dickylee |
09.02.05 - 11:32 pm | #
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blamed everything but herpes on Bill Clinton
And they would have done that, too, had it not been for Neil Bush pretty well having the herpes franchise locked up.
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marquer |
09.02.05 - 11:35 pm | #
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Steve
You're makin' me proud to be a contributor, dude.
Mike |
09.02.05 - 11:36 pm | #
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the last statement in my comment should be reversed, obviously:
Katrina is just a dramatic illustration of what happens when you don't have a decent safety net and a government that is more intersted in the welfare of corporations than the welfare of its citizens.
hv |
09.02.05 - 11:36 pm | #
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Note to all fellow neo-cons out there. The
hurricane machine is working fine. We are going to hit Miami next. Oh wait we need them for the next election. Oops, maybe I should not be posting this in the open. Oh well fuck it you can't stop us now.No... wait, I have it... Bush is God right? We don't need the machine after all. He can wave his hand and destroy at will. More money we can send to Iraq. Do you people live in reality? If you want to help go to the red cross website... donate some money. Stop being a bunch of winey bitches. No one care about your opinions anyway really. Go back to your spaghetti-o's.
ray nagin |
09.02.05 - 11:37 pm | #
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HOLY MARY MOTHER OF FUCKING GOD!!! You go girl!
Sirkowski |
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09.02.05 - 11:42 pm | #
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Steve, this is right on the money.
hv, I've felt that Bush is bored, too. I don't think it's a craving for adulation, though. I think his life has been an extended stream of farting around in one way or another, punctuated at intervals by brief periods when he actually has to concentrate his mind on doing something.
The thing he has to concentrate on is not governing, it's the election. And now that he's lame duck, I think he's basically lost interest. He's just waiting for it to be over. Even the mid-terms are someone else's problem to him, I think.
He just doesn't care.
It's idiots like this that have people cheering when a military dictator tosses them out of the state mansion.
Jape |
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09.02.05 - 11:42 pm | #
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Hitchens lives in DC. He might want to not show his face on the streets of the District for a long fucking time.
pseudonymous in nc |
09.02.05 - 11:43 pm | #
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On Faux News:
Murdoch turned the Sun into a pro-Blair paper when Major's government was beyond redemption. You think all the Faux News addicts will be a bit surprised when Rupert sends the memo to hit Bush hard? Because he doesn't like being associated with losers.
pseudonymous in nc |
09.02.05 - 11:44 pm | #
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You broke the sound barrier on that one.
That was fuckin' poetry, and it's why I read you.
syntaxin |
09.02.05 - 11:46 pm | #
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ray nagin,
Stop making excuses for failure.
steve_gilliard |
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09.02.05 - 11:46 pm | #
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At the end of the day, when the smoke clears, and all the shit talk winds down-Bush and his criminal regime stand pat.
Three more years of the tumescent malignancy lurches on to propagate even further outrage...
The true horror is that the American political system has no mechanism to destroy him.
He will continue to kill again-perhaps even be feted, as indeed he already is for his racist murders. And then another,perhaps fouler, an American atavism will slime forth to start up the death train...
One has to wonder just what he would have to do...but he remains untouchable.
Impeachment, in a decent system should have happened long ago but it is not enough.
Only arrest and imprisonment would do justice.Yet the system would never even countenance what has been obvious from the beginning.
Certainly in a civilized country he would have been removed by any means possible short of assasination.
God Bless America! Time to start another war!
Jill Bains |
09.02.05 - 11:46 pm | #
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that is one first class fuckin rant , mr gilliard.
first class.
nilsey |
09.02.05 - 11:48 pm | #
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I think the Right Wing Bush supporters are doing a little Mother in Law research and that is why they are desperately trying to get people to stop talking about what a failure George Bush is... everyone in America can see he is no leader, just a propped up figurehead for a dying Vice president.
Amuseinc |
09.02.05 - 11:51 pm | #
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steve_gilliard,
She's an idiot
Obviously. But boy, are they out there. They're not bloggers or pundits or pro-war protestors. They're the real "silent majority." Only this time, they're not supposedly silently suffering the indignities of some political movement that's anathema to them. They're just fucking silent. Apathetic. Willing to forgo any criticism on the basis of effort, as Holdie Lewie pointed out.
Now, you've served up some real fine red meat here. The folks love it. But unfortunately, these "fucking idiots" will just turn away, same as they turrn away from the Dobsons that beat them from their other side. Don't interpret this as me saying that your comments are like way intemperate, and that we need to DLC this shit smoothlike. I'm just saying that the "fucking idiot" is not an aberration; they're your American neighbor par excellence. Most people in this fucking country are craven, uninvolved, and totally detached from the political process. And we are going down the shitter herewith. There will be no great awakening.
rAD |
09.02.05 - 11:52 pm | #
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Sorry, Steve, I'm way intemperate. "Fucking" was my addition, you never said that.
rAD |
09.02.05 - 11:54 pm | #
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Jill Bains,
Nope. This is far from over.
I once read something that said "if Americans suddenly had worms popping from their skin, the government would fall"
Well, it ain't worms yet, but when Fox turns on Bush, times have changed. This can't be hidden or excused away.
steve_gilliard |
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09.02.05 - 11:56 pm | #
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Alligator MREs.
How long does it take for an Alligator MRE submerged in water to become an Exploding Alligator MRE?
Steve Nichols |
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09.02.05 - 11:57 pm | #
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REVOLUTION NOW!!!!!
The USA won't last until2009 unless the disastewr monkey buttmunch is REMOVED from office--soon.
Ron |
09.02.05 - 11:58 pm | #
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I've just seen pictures on MSNBC, and they reminded me of the slums outside Delhi. Seriously.
pseudonymous in nc |
09.02.05 - 11:59 pm | #
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Americans truely are not political but they are decent and good hearted. One of the ways the Republicans have been winning elections is with a smear machine that both muddies the political arena but also turns off Americans from participating in the process. How many people "hated" John Kerry and thus voted for Bush as a lesser evil because of the Swift boat liars and Rove's "the gays ar coming."?
The reality is that the time will turn. The American people will take back thier government and they will bring honor back to America. It may take a 3rd party, it may take awhile but never lose faith in "We, The People."
Amuseinc |
09.02.05 - 11:59 pm | #
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Louisiana - Red State. Miss - Same. Fla - Same. This is what they voted for. Limited government, doing it on the cheap. The looting and bull shit of Badhdad has washed up on America's shore. Red State, Limited Gubbamint AT ITS BEST.
But It is having an Effect. Rush Limbaugh DIDN't Lead Thursday's program talkin 'bout NOLA, and he couldn't even make it in on FRIDAY. Got NUTHUN TO SAY!!!
marcus agripper |
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09.03.05 - 12:01 am | #
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Good post, Steve.
SAP |
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09.03.05 - 12:02 am | #
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"This President does not understand the suffering of the poor and the weak and the disinfranchised." -(hv)
No. This is not true.
He understands them all too well.
He understands them to the point of enabling their deaths- of actually being desirous of their deaths.
This is his political strength.
This was why he was elected.
This is what the world knows about America.
Jill Bains |
09.03.05 - 12:04 am | #
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Louisiana - Red State. Miss - Same. Fla - Same. This is what they voted for. Limited government, doing it on the cheap.
Florida, repeatedly annihilated by hurricanes. Who've those folks been voting for these days again?
rAD |
09.03.05 - 12:05 am | #
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If there's a blogging award for Best Rant... this is it.
Bruce A. |
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09.03.05 - 12:12 am | #
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It's possible that Bush has been caught in a situation like a Ken Lay who knew the shit was about to hit the fan, (rovegate and related investigations),and that he has already made the assumption he is going down.
With such a troubled outlook, he may have viewed Katrina's catastrophic, and unscheduled ,
implications as an annoying nuisance to a bigger picture.
Might explain his calousness...
God help us...
tired of the elephant |
09.03.05 - 12:14 am | #
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God-damn man.
God. Damn.
I bow in your direction.
LowerManhattanite |
09.03.05 - 12:16 am | #
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This is another great post, great rant. Your coverage of this catastrophe has been spot on, brilliant. Thanks.
ADS |
09.03.05 - 12:24 am | #
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Florida, repeatedly annihilated by hurricanes. Who've those folks been voting for these days again?
Well, remember that Broward County got shitloads of FEMA money after zero hurricane damage last year. Funny, that.
pseudonymous in nc |
09.03.05 - 12:26 am | #
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Steve, thanks for putting words to how I feel. Damn, it felt good to read this.
Doug Hoffman |
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09.03.05 - 12:26 am | #
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Word.
dudeinCA |
09.03.05 - 12:31 am | #
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Amen, brother Steve.
Jesusland Joe |
09.03.05 - 12:31 am | #
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pseudonymous,
Good thing FEMA's been able to depoliticize itself and raise the standard of competent governance this time around.
Some beautiful FEMA people are no doubt crunching the relief numbers now in DC.
rAD |
09.03.05 - 12:34 am | #
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Ooooouuuuch.
Body-blow, body-blow.
That kind of hurt had to leave a mark.
Bailey |
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09.03.05 - 12:37 am | #
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God save us from George W. Bush.
grytpype |
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09.03.05 - 12:38 am | #
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Goddamn, Steve.
We need to ram this down the throats of the media until they get it.
The Klute |
09.03.05 - 12:39 am | #
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Time will tell if Rethugs figure out they got shafted with herr Bush.
Though whatever comes of it, its doubtful it will harm GOP chances in '06 or '08. The thing is, there is no in D.C. who can exploit Bush's criminal negligence.
The other fly in the ointment is the GOP base itself. Democrats and progressives are always hoping some of these people will come to their senses. Well forget it, they don't care if our people die in Iraq or NOLA.
It didn't work in '04 and won't work now or in '08.
The other mistake is giving these people the attributes one would give to a normal human who has the ability to emphasize with others. The problem is, Bush supporters just don't care about poor people in general and black people in particular. As far as they are concerned this country would be a better place if Bush did go for a "Final solution" in regards to the poor.
anon |
09.03.05 - 12:41 am | #
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It's started. Yet another disaster.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9175553/
ghostcatbce |
09.03.05 - 12:42 am | #
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Way to go kid!
See Bush and the cons for what they are. Do-nothing snobs.
boilerman10 |
09.03.05 - 12:43 am | #
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It is difficult to imagine you paying for your own drink in San Francisco, after that.
peeder |
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09.03.05 - 12:44 am | #
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ghostcatbce,
Fuck.
rAD |
09.03.05 - 12:44 am | #
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Fuck.
And you just fucking know the fucks will be here to read this. Way to go, Steve Gilliard.
earl |
09.03.05 - 12:45 am | #
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Amen. I couldn't express my rage any better.
We're only at year five of this eight year clusterfuck, where are we going to be in three more years? If this doesn't wake people up to what Conservative/Republican leadership means to their everyday life, I don't know what will.
Sauce |
09.03.05 - 12:47 am | #
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BEST fucking post I've ever read on this blog. Fucking awesome.
Slappy |
09.03.05 - 12:47 am | #
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I've been reading this blog regularly this week and have loved the writing, while becoming more and more depressed at what's happening. I liked this post too, but I think the insult directed at Andrew Sullivan was a bit of a cheap shot. Yes, the man is very disagreeable at times and none of us can defend his praise for "The Bell Curve" at all, but lets try not to appear homophobic...
Also, on the issue of the hurricane at least, sullivan's been very critical and would probably agree with most of everything that's been written here so far. He called Bush incompetent at accomplishing basic tasks. That's a pretty damning criticism.
Obviously, I'll be flamed for this, but whatever. I hope Steve keeps up the great work but refrains from cheap shots no matter how tempting. (The other insults directed at various conservative wackjobs in the post, were appropriate and completely deserved, btw, it was just the gay-bashing one I had problems with- and no, I am not saying that anyone is really a bigot or a homophobe. I understand it was just directed at one person, not gays in general.)
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This rant and all the subsequent commentary really only makes me angry at the Democrats. Yes, Little Green Footballs is stupid, and Hitchens does like the sauce a bit. But how can a party that ostensibly speaks for around 50% of Americans let things deteriorate to this degree? Will it take a negligence that destroys New Orleans to give these people some balls?
It's pathetic that I'm not sure it's enough.
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You folks are just plains maroons...
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Bastards. They are liquidating our country. Wholesale. Giving it all to their corporate co-conspirators, who in turn liquidate the middle-class. They are mining our environment, fouling our air and water, mining the very infrastructure of LIFE. So called pro-life bastards. Dooming our children, our young people, dissing our elderly. Liquidating our government(s) and breaking our ability to help ourselves. Breaking our army, making mad money. Rolling wheelbarrels up to the banks in broad daylight, with a "What, how dare you?" look on their faces as if we are the ones committing the crime. Bastards. Call them out. Bush supporters. Dumbasses. Ask them how they like their Bush now, make them squirm in front of everybody. Call them out and tell them to take their heads out of their asses. In public. Ask, "Do you feel uncomfortable? Good. Now you're beginning to feel what the rest of us are going through. It's called A SOUL."
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Don,
plains maroons....sounds delicious. Got the recipe?
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Hearty applause is the only thing that needs to be added to this post. The world doesn't just hate George Bush because of what he's done overseas; he is just as despicable in his policies at home. If only the people these words are aimed at were capable of listening...
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09.03.05 - 12:58 am | #
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That was so vicariously cathartic!
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SG: You're getting soft.
You went way too easy on that pissant.
I'm serious.
Regards, though, and better luck next time.
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Right Fucking On! Thanks!
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steve; your coverage of these events has been unparallelled. I have been getting my 15 year old son reading your blog. In school (english class) they have been discussing what has happened. My son, (largely informed by your blog) has stood and pointed out the disinformation, the lies, the false stories and playing to ancient archetypal racial stereotypes -- he said after mocking the "looting" stuff ( white people find, black people loot)
he got a standing ovation from the black kids in class, for saying what they KNOW but can't SAY.
Sometimes, these are the things that change minds, and get people to think.
Thanks for your work, and passion.
This is Atlanta, heah?
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I FELT this one coming. I kept checking in this pm, over and over, and knew it would be good when it finally came. It was more than worth the wait. Kanye, Shep Smith/Geraldo, Gilliard. Gilliard was the best.
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How is "bareback" homophobic? I think you're being ridiculous.
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"The true horror is that the American political system has no mechanism to destroy him."
Jill Bains
That is right, Jill.
"Revolutions take place at a time of rising expectations" There is no reason for Americans to make a suicidal struggle against the Repubs.
Hoping to live through it, without getting blood on our own hands is the best we can try for.
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You are nothing but a yellow traitor.
Shut the FUCK up.
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I can't believe the level of hate from so called compassionate liberals. God help you bastards.
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What level of incompetence does Bush need to reach before we impeach his sorry ass?
If a regular citizen's incompetence resulted in the deaths of people, wouldn't we charge him with involuntary manslaughter?
What ... do we have to do ... to remove this guy from office? How many more people will he kill before we get rid of him? Are you telling me that we can charge politicians for accepting inappropriate political contributions but Dubya is still in office?
What is wrong with our country? What is wrong with us?
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Well said, sir. Well said.
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I feel your pain, Dave. This "hate" stuff must look odd from the outside. Image what y'all look like to the rest of us everytime you feel the the need to kick the ass of some far away brown people. This is barely a taste, but when the real thing comes, you will only have yourself to blame.
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Holy fucking shit.
Steve, I want to be your friend. That was fucking awesome.
I know we've had our differences, but I just heard a kindred soul, as outraged as I am, and reading that just made me proud to be an American.
Damn.
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Jose, DAVE
Get a room
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And one more thing ... the one silver lining in all of this is watching these wingnuts squirm. They are watching their entire movement getting flushed down the toilet by this incompetent waste of space. And they troll about on these blogs, puffing themselves up and continuing to bluster themselves into oblivion, and all I see is a pathetic and cowardly mass of human waste.
There is a reason you ass hats aren't in Iraq fighting your war and there is a reason your president is flushing your ideology down the toilet.
You are all corrupt to the bone. You had better get on your knees now and pray there isn't an afterlife, because this is on your heads.
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You are funny as shit too...even if this isn't really a laughing matter.
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AiD:
Think '06. We can do nothing until we regain the Congress. You think this organized crime ring will allow themselves to be subjected to the law prior a to restoration of checks and balances? Forget it.
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As I already said, Steve, brilliant post. But I don't share your optimism that this will be the cathartic moment when the Bush-worshipping fanatics miraculously come to their senses and see what a hollow, empty, weak, uncaring and incompetent leader Bush truly is. If they didn't come to that realization a long time ago, these people cannot be even dragged kicking and screaming to the truth. It's just not going to happen. That is the unfortunate state of events of American political landscape today. It's a toxic, poisonous environment just like the faeces and bacteria filled stagnant waters of NO, and it's about "us versus them.. and the "them" I'm alluding to ain't the terrorist "rag-heads". As you've well documented in your blog before, a lot of times these wingnuts seem to hate the "evil God-hating, freedom-hating, America-hating Liberals and Democrats" even more than terrorists. And that's saying a lot because you know they really, really hate the "brown-skinned stinkin' rag-heads". Their total lack of tolerance for dissent, their level of hatred against the other side and their fanatical devotion to Bush are not going to get magically cured just because a whole lot of poor, black folk died in NO. Bush's base doesn't give a fuck about poor black folk.
No, I don't see any change in American political climate whatsover. The apathetic and politically disengaged will just shrug their shoulders, shrink away from any angry criticism against Bush, smugly self-congratulate themselves for being "moderates" in their usual masturbatory self-congratulatory habit and blame it all on bad luck, unpredictable nature and inefficent government bureaucracy. And as for the Bush-loving repugs.. well..be prepared for a lot of wingnut blogs screeching and hollering "this isn't about politics" and about the "politicizing of the hurricane by the moonbat lefties and Lib-ruls and traitorous Dems". It's already started. Check out the following, courtesy of DailyKos:
http://www.redstate.org/story/20...9/1/143947/
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My favourite line from above:
If I don't see all of the Democratic leadership swearing their devotion to the president in a time of crisis -- as any decent American should -- this moderate, until now "in play" for the right sort of Democrat, will officially be an anti-Democrat activist.
Also, as per Bush's track record, expect some senior official at FEMA to receive the medal of honour for their "exceptional" work. Nobody is ever held accountable in the Bush administration for anything...instead, in one jaw-dropping act of arrogance and sticking up the middle finger to everyone after another, truth and logic are subverted, and the incompetent and the dishonourable receive medals of honour or get promoted.
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Thanks, Steve.
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Bravo Steve, bravo
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If more people just started going primal here live Steve, and ripping new GOP assholes (depending on the forum maybe a bit less graphic though), people are going to sit up and take notice to that righteous rage, and rightie wingnut heads are going to start to swivel and spin.
I've been fulminating myself mainly in Wash Monthly threads, but not at this level of raw New York streetwise fury. Let this be a beacon...
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YES! You rock, Gilliard! That was the best thing I have ever read in my life, anywhere!
Did you know about this?
Not only that, but three hundred chemical and industrial polluters were on the right bank of the Delta, in "Cancer Alley," where Katrina hit.
15 oil processing hubs vanished. Like, nobody knows where they are. Where did all their chemicals go? Did they just vanish too?
Cancer Alley Wexelblat
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"If I don't see all of the Democratic leadership swearing their devotion to the president in a time of crisis.."
If I don't see that, I'll be damned shocked, in a good way.
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No Dave, it's "compassionate conservatives"...that's the invented LIE.
I'm just surprised that after getting all those poor black people in one place in the astrodome, Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and Rice didn't decide to nuke them.
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That guy is a Republican. The Democrats only have him insofar as they cut public services to balance budgets and pretend that poor people don't exist.
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fuckin A & bravo!!!
you rock man!
thank you thank you thank you
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I think its pathetic that every single thing that goes wrong in America is blamed soly on Bush. NO's Mayor and the frikn Gov. of Louisiana need to take responsibility. Bush isnt the head of FEMA or the Red Cross. Im sorry you all wish you could put all the country's problems on one person's shoulders so its "EASIER" to get rid of one guy then actually face each problem with the real people that cause them. FUCK. GROW UP! I mean, I cannot FATHOM how poeple can actually truely believe that this Hurricane was Bush's fault, and that he, PERSONALY, haulted relief efforts because he hates black people and he is dumb. If he haulted them, then why hasnt anyone involved with the first relief efforts not agreeing? Infact they were deployed immidietly after the storm died down and had different in getting some equipment (such had vehicles) down there. No DOUBT that relief didnt come quick enough for NOers but that is because the Mayor and the Gov. of Louisiana didn't have a plan. They havent had a plan or good levves for 40 YEARS! Why didnt CLINTON, OR BUSH1, OR ANY OTHER DAMN PERSIDENT TAKE CARE OF IT. Because Presidents DONT look for EVERY DAMN PROBLEM IN AMERICA. Its the job of the cities and states to take care of it and bring it to national attention if need be. If you people watch the news other than the Daily Show youd know this.
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Bollocks!
American presidents and administrations have been engaged in genocidal battles abroad for over a century.
Never have the politicians been held accountable.
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Toure so right !! Perhaps we should put the people affected by Katrina on planes and send them to Iraq so they can get the help that they need since that is the only country that Bush seems to be concerned with helping.
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Jose Rudman, from where I'm sitting and from no doubt where the vast majority of America is sitting right now, George Bush is the yellow traitor.
Make no mistake, people, this shit is huge, and it is not good.
We've still got a good many people -- over 100,000 easily -- trapped in New Orleans, and the feds have only now started moving, and if reports are to be believed, it's only because a single National Guard general said screw FEMA, screw the chain of command and screw order and went out and did something. But at this point, for a lot of those stranded, it is too late.
Americans see the lack of federal response. Finally, they are seeing poverty in their faces. It ain't pretty. This has shaken Americans confidence in their government to the core. Does anybody doubt this? They are right now thinking, Jesus, if it's that bad in New Orleans, how bad is it in Iraq? This will be remembered as a watershed moment in our Republic, and not necessarily a good one.
Worse, we're also in a sputtering economy. We're stuck in a useless and unecessary war, that at best will result in the second Shi'ite Islamic Republic and be closely allied with our nemesis Iran. Osama bin Laden is still out there, still hunting us, planning. And a couple hostile states appear at best to be preparing to arm themselves with nuclear weapons.
These are terribly dangerous times, and Americans know it, but they believed the federal government was on the job. Sure, us liberals knew it was garbage, but a slim majority of Americans believed otherwise. Until now. Now they see how incompetent, how malfeascent, how bad Bush and his cronies are. As do our friends and enemies.
I'm thinking we are in for a world of hurt, and yes, it is Bush's fault.
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Lets just say this tragedy happend in florida brother jeb would have his state back in working order by now
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Best rant ever! A-fuckin'-men, Brother!
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Isnt it funny everytime hes in trouble he runs to his daddy and the ex president to bail him out of his problems
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Isnt it funny everytime hes in trouble he runs to his daddy and the ex president to bail him out of his problems
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Jose,
If this is treason, let me make the most of it
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Bush is the president. He is to blame. Simple as that.
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Oh yeah, Andy Sullivan advertised for unprotected "bareback" sex online. Oh yeah. Sullivan is HIV+
I could call him an attempted murderer.
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I believe the white house has plenty of large size rooms and im sure bushes ranch does too that he could open his homes and welcome the people to stay where they can be fed . Yeah right!!
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George Bush could have been a leader today. How you say? Chech out the damage on on the gulf coast and then load up airforce one with people in the devistated area and take them back to Washington. But no, people have died and it is a dark day. Can you say Photo oppertunity. How can you expect the department leaders to lead if the president himself won't lead.
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Fuckin' A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is all I gotta say.
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steve, I hadn't heard that. I wouldn't claim to know all about various bloggers. If that's true, then I'll concede that he deserved it and worse. I'm surprised they let him on tv all the time. I'm also surprised that Dan Savage considers him a friend considering the contempt that Dan Savage has shown for people who would do something like that. If someone has some hard evidence for that claim. I'd be interested in seeing it, not that I don't believe you. But it's good to know where this stuff is coming from. I'll admit to reading Andrew Sullivan every so often despite my frustration with some of his arguments and his support for bizarre theories like the Bell Curve and the idea that Larry Summers was on to something.
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my apologies, I just did a google search and found this nation article. That really is something. I can't believe Dan Savage was willing to call this guy a friend! What a sleazebag!
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Now is exactly the time for anger. Now is the time for people to realize exactly what little they have in a government. Now is the time to get rid of those losers.
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09.03.05 - 2:17 am | #
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I am in awe. Up there with best rants forever.
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My nomination for the blog pulitizer prize. A work of art.
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If that's true, then I'll concede that he deserved it and worse.
True and very well known on the internet. Story here.
dave™©® |
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word.
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09.03.05 - 2:18 am | #
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actually, I take that back, a bit. According to Answers.com, Sullivan's advertisement stated that he was HIV positive and he only had sex with other HIV positive individuals. I don't think this is all that bad. Probably not attempted murder...
Anyway, this is mainly nitpicking. Sullivan's an ass for supporting the Bell Curve and Larry Summers. I do enjoy this blog and keep up the good work!
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BTW, late to the party, but well done! I'll remember this when they do those stupid Koufax things next year...
Just to be nosy: did you write this all in one take, or did you stew about it for awhile?
dave™©® |
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09.03.05 - 2:19 am | #
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Sullivan's advertisement stated that he was HIV positive and he only had sex with other HIV positive individuals.
No.
dave™©® |
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09.03.05 - 2:19 am | #
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Democrat Govenor, Democrat Mayor....need I say more? They had 200 buses less than 5 miles from the dome, why didn't they use them?
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Probably afraid to be arrested for "looting" just like the kid that did take a bus helped many strangers to safety and now awaitng charges.
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Probably afraid to be arrested for "looting" just like the kid that did take a bus helped many strangers to safety and now awaitng charges.
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I don't mean to still be on this, but even the Nation article which I originally linked too, says that what Sullivan did cannot be described as risking the infection of others.
"In contrast, Sullivan disclosed his HIV status from the start, and no one, not even Signorile, has alleged that Sullivan deliberately sought to infect his sex partners."
The article goes on to attack Sullivan, not for reckless behavior, but for hypocrisy. Which is fine. He probably is a hypocrite about a number of things. I should have read the article rather than the first paragraph, though.
Alan |
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A-fucking-separation-of-church-and-state-MEN!
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Well, that was refreshing. Thanks, they needed that.
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Alan, did you ever have a friend you sort of didn't like?
Dumb Dave and the traitor-shouters and "persident" supporters should shut the fuck up and look at what is before their eyes without the veil of bullshit and prejudice.
That kid who commandeered the bus is a true American hero and testament to the greatness inherent in humanity. Screw the Houston pigs and racists. Jabbor Gibson should be getting a medal.
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Man, were it not for the profanity, I might read that thing verbatim on my shows this weekend.
You don't mind of I cherry pick, do you? I will credit you--the "alligator MRE's" is pure poetry.
JAW.
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Good posting Mr. Gilliard.
This isn't over by a long stretch. Sure, the cavalry finally came but all is not well and won't be for quite a while.
How many new homeless will we have? 100,000? 500,000? 1,000,000?
Ponder that.
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BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!!!!!!!!!
You said everything I feel.
BRAVO!
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09.03.05 - 2:51 am | #
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Well said...
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09.03.05 - 2:54 am | #
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A cry from the heart (or possibly the venting spleen) that echoes my own. Thanks for saying it--I just hope that someone listens.
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Fuck Godwin's law. Anybody who's still a Republican after the events of the past week is a Nazi at heart. The poor are their Jews.
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Absolutely fantastic!
If only this could appear on the front page of every major newspaper and receive air time instead of the 7/24 cable coverage of Bush photo-ops.
The legacy of the Vacation and Excuse President: Miserable Failure.
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now now
it is not bush's fault, the line that will be spun is that the states and their governors were slow to ask for aid.
and without official document 4 X * on a special government paper, with triplicate copies and 50 signatures...
Also please forget that for 3 days mr bush was on vacation while hundreds of people died...this guy needs his rest after all the good work he did for iraq...
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Not to attack the vast majority of the people of New York who have always hated Bush, but one of Bush's greatest gains in the popular vote in 04 over 2000 was in New York City. In Staten Island, Bush's gain was enormous, but I seem to recall that he did better in almost every borough (except possibly Manhattan) in 2004 than he did in 2000.
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Heh.
Yes, let me interject my own juvenile "FUCKIN'-A, MAN!"
You stunted, profane blame-Bush-at-all costs IDIOTS make winning alllll too easy.
Facts?
Bah.
Accountability of the local and State leadership?
Bah.
Nevermind that LA has had FORTY YEARS to prepare for this.
Bah.
Let's all forget that Bush declared a state of emergency in Louisiana on Saturday and that the Federal Emergency Management Agency coordinated with state authorities in Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama, and prepositioned supplies in areas expected to be affected. Bush and FEMA have magical powers and can (or could have) navigated flooded roads with supplies, so could the magical (and plentiful) National Guard.
Bah.
Forget that, even though Bush pressed for a full evac. on Sunday... and appealed to useless nitwits Blanco and Nagin for a mandatory evacuation.
Nope, Bush didn't use his magic powers to force them to act (you'd be screaming about his abuse of power if he did anyway.)
Bah.
Let's not lay any blame at the feet of the subhuman looters and criminals who SHOT AT relief workers and volunteers... they are also magical and bulletproof.
I really can't believe you hate-riddled sheep are this stupid, but you keep exceeding expectations.
Bravo, thanks for yet another reason to laugh at the complete morons that make up what you still have the balls to call the "Democratic" party.
Thanks for the reminding the sane folks who and what you are, it will be *at least* a decade before you win anything again.
P.S. - screeching "FUCK" is not a viable political strategy.
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I heard a rumor from DU that Cheney used a weather machine to cause the hurricane and only target black people.
Just like how the Jews did 9/11, Hurricane Katrina was an inside job.
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DAMN RACISTS!
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../
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The photos were by two different photographers working for two different news agencies, The Associated Press and AFP/Getty Images. But they appeared together on Yahoo News, and they sparked a flurry of blog entries, emails and calls contending the captions were unfair to blacks.
The Associated Press said its policy was clear.
"When we see people go into businesses and come out with goods, we call it looting," said Santiago Lyon, AP's director of photography. "When we just see them carrying things down the road, we call it carrying items."
Lyon said the photographer who took Tuesday's photo, Dave Martin, had seen the man go into the store and take out the items.
As for the other photo, Getty said it stood by its caption and its photographer, Chris Graythen, who says the subjects of his photo were simply picking up items floating by in the dank waters.
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Dazzling job, Steve. The "Escape to New Orleans" alone made my sig.
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I wonder how many red states will turn blue because of this? I'll bet all those who "voted morality over self-interest" are feeling doubly shafted now.
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Uh, I didn't the the Jenna Jameson, Ollie North thing...
er, wait... you said Peter North.
Fuck. I get it now.
Good stuff, man.
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This is the finest piece of blog EVER!! right to the heart of the beast! Ive read it ten times already, im gushing, this is great words Steve, keep it up we'll see Bush in cuff's in no time.
wow!
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Thank you for saying what we all feel and doing so as forcefully as imaginable. Although Bush has deserved impeachment for three years now, it won't happen unless we flip control of the House and Senate in 2006. Then in early 2007 we could well have a President Pelosi. I've no problem with that. This sorry band of cowards running the show needs to leave, preferably in handcuffs. And please take Ken Mehlman with you as you go. What a piece of crap he is!
Thanks again for the incredible work.
-TimInAtl
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Thank you, Smug Monkey, for explaining the GOP platform so well. And I mean that sincerely.
"Never mind that Louisiana has had 40 YEARS to prepare for this." (Misspelling and inappropriate abbreviation edited for clarity)
That's exactly the Republican way of thinking. It's Louisiana's fault and Louisiana's problem. The federal government operates the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which built and maintained the levees that failed. But, according to Republicans, the blame lies with Louisiana's state and local politicians.
Are you panicking because you're dying of thirst, waiting for water and food at the New Orleans convention center, hoping for FEMA or the National Guard or Army to arrive? Your fault, and the fault of your state and local leaders.
Smug Monkey, you believe that the "stunted, profane blame-Bush-at-all costs idiots make winning all too easy," and that "it will be *at least* a decade before you win anything again." I think you're wrong this time, but you could be right and we'll see, starting with the mid-term elections.
It is revealing, though, that you're dwelling on the next election cycle rather than on methods of saving people's lives.
But let's talk about those elections. You and your GOP brethren already are running on the platform that you so eloquently described: Individuals and state and local governments are in it for themselves. If a natural or man-made disaster destroys a 90,000-square-mile area, displacing perhaps 1 million people, it is a state and local problem. If the federal government perceives that the problem is too big for state and local authorities, the feds should follow protocol and not step in and help until certain paperwork is signed by the proper authorities, duly notarized, and sent in the proper fashion to Washington or Crawford or a bunker in Nebraska or wherever else the president is hiding from his people.
You know what, Smug Monkey? You think that's a winning platform and I hope you're wrong. I hope that the voters decide that there are times when they want a competently run federal government, and the Democrats are willing and able to provide that. You are arguing the opposite, that the federal government can't provide services efficiently (and you certainly have proved that on the Gulf Coast and in Iraq!), and therefore voters need to elect Republicans at all levels, state to federal.
It's a healthy, genuine debate, and I welcome it, as do you.
As for your crack about "subhuman looters" -- well, we won't forget that. Do I think you would have called a gang of white looters "subhuman?" No. Would you deny that assertion? Yes. Would the majority of Americans side with me, or with you? We'll see.
I do not wish you luck running on that platform, Smug Monkey. I think you and your allies are destroying the country and killing innocent people here and in Iraq. But I thank you for stating your case so clearly.
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Actually, I think that the author of this piece was being entirely too kind to the souless, low-life, blood-dripping-from-their-bank-accounts, power mad monsters that sit on Pennsylvania Ave. Of course, we also need to be aware that protests such as those we are making here, are likely being monitored by overzealous cretins at the FBI, who are busily tracking down US citizens as potential terrorists, while destroying what is left of the Constitution, at the behest of those who think that an undiscovered lie is the same thing as "truth". Damn every one of these sick bastards to an eternity in Satan's barbecue pit!!!
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The nukeing of NYC is going to make this all look like a picnic. There are terrorists out there now looking for such weapons with Atta-like dedication. And Donald Rumsfeld has already told us it is going to happen.
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AAAAA F@#CKING MEN!!
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Democrat Govenor, Democrat Mayor....need I say more? They had 200 buses less than 5 miles from the dome, why didn't they use them?
Because they kept waiting for a go-ahead from FEMA which needless to say never came.
FEMA's supposed to play a coordinating role in situations like this. That's the Emergency Management part of the agency's title. In other words the Federal government is supposed to actually get its head out of its ass and do something. But with a bunch of right-wing political hacks in charge who don't really believe that the Federal government ought to do anything, FEMA acted like it was Miller Time.
We're now witnessing the results.
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I can't believe the idiots in this thread with their lips still locked on Bush's dick.
Hey, I'll screach "fuck" all day long and I'll take it as a "political strategy", because out in the bars and grocery stores and everywhere I've been that's what I hear. You little idiots hitched your wagon to the wrong star. People I know damn well voted for Bush are appalled and all your racist, bullshit, hating on the "subhuman" victims is what isn't a "political strategy". You keep going on that one.
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The nukeing of NYC is going to make this all look like a picnic. There are terrorists out there now looking for such weapons with Atta-like dedication. And Donald Rumsfeld has already told us it is going to happen.
That's not just Rumsfeld, that's every expert on nuclear proliferation in the world. There is a 100% chance that a nuke is going to go off in NYC. I think Steve is crazy as hell for living there, and I think this country is crazy as hell for not just getting off the foreign policy track that got us there but stepping on the gas. History is going to have a hell of a time understanding us.
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I feel refreshed, for battle.
Thnx for this Steve G.
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There's only one phrase to describe the actions of the executive branch over the past few days: "criminally negligent homicide."
The levees breaking was a disaster. The response by the GOP has been a catastrophe...and a preventable one at that, caused by the incompetence, corruption, greed and racism of a handful of hacks, crooks and crazies.
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Incredible rant.
Oh and..."Like Chiang Kai-Shek when the Yellow River flooded in 1944, with corrupt indifference."
So what did the conservatives do five years later after Truman and everyone's grandmother tried to get Chiang to pay attention to the disasters that were about to befall him?....
Why blame Dean Acheson of course. I see a pattern here.
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Fuckin' well right, brother. Preach it.
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BTW is it any wonder now why Americans of yesteryear kept dems in power so long?
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Amen Steve! I've shared this will the world.
I don't think Americans outside of the devastation zone truly comprehend the depth of the disaster, which was brought on by DECADES of incompetence and indifference. Bush is just all of this crap on meth.
We now are seeing numbers of refugees that the US hasn't seen since the CIVIL WAR. Think about this. Think about the amount of housing, food, health care and clothing that MUST be provided unless we want to see the country crash.
This is a DIRE emergency, DIRE. And Bush is sulking because he had to cut short is vacation.
He's not a brat, he's a sociopath.
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Yeah, but what do you really think?
A friend!
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Thanks for this, Steve. You put into words exactly what I am feeling.
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I'm sorry that it took this to get people to see how dangerous Bush is.
Global Warming
Iraq
Poverty
Race
Gun control
all collide in media-friendly images of horror in a week that shows the catastrophic failures of this wicked, greedy, ammoral, lying administration.
My underground train exploded on 7/7/o5 and 26 people behind me died and I blame Bush and Blair for pursuing a foreign policy that fans the flames of hate. This week I saw the tape of the bomber lay the blame on voters like me for 'supporting' the leaders who implement these misguided policies, even though and and 2 million others marched against the Iraq war. I watch people starving and struggling to survive in the US on the rolling news and I blame Bush for his divisive policies that suck up to the rich and fuck up the poor and mean that the sick, the poor, those without SUVs and credit cards can rot amongst bodies and toxic waste. I see the photos of the sandals of the 700 dead lie piled in Iraq after pilgrims stampede from the threat of yet another suicide bomber. I see that murderous chimp Bush smirking and mouthing platitudes and I say, if there is a God, save us. But I think we're better off saving ourselves. And if the backlash starts here, then something good will have come from this sickening week of catastrophe worsened by incompetence.
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Posts full of shit, like this one, don't get through generally speaking. But they do provide amusement and great entertainment!
Thanks!
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Impeacment is not enough for this miserable gang of thugs anymore. Life long imprisonmenmt is more to the order.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
GOD DAMN GEORGE W. BUSH!
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anyone who thinks post 9/11 Bush's World is ready and able to take on all comers--about this? Official version versus on-the-street http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02...onse/
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Ticked off says:
I'm getting cases of water and canned goods tomorrow to keep stocked in our basement.
You should also prepare go bags to keep in your cars.
Radios (solar if you have it) batteries, rain poncho, dried nuts, canned food and stuff, water ( I just added small bottles of bleach in case I need to purify some), first aid kit, pet supplies, small tool kit, copies of your documents,plastic bags and I can't remember what else now but you get the idea. Prepare because Bush doesn't give a shit!
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"Escape from New Orleans" or "GTA NOLA"
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Absolutely *GREAT* post, Steve. Expressed my gut feelings *exactly*.
Wanna hear what my dumbass Republican co-worker has been spouting all this week? The librul media is "exaggerating" the situation. That those people who didn't get out are stupid (implying that they are responsible for their plight). Since he is a rabid FAUX watcher and talk radio listener, I'm guessing that's the GOP talking point.
This, mind you, from a guy (along with his entire family) lives in the Earthquake State (AKA California).
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Thank you for your words.
They're true and powerful and I hope to God that the complacent, blind ones can at least hear the outcry
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You are pathetic. The fact that you don't understand how the government works speaks volumes to your intelligence (or lack thereof). Or maybe you do understand but then you'd have to admit the complete and utter failure of the Democrat mayor and govenor.
From Wikipedia:
As mayor he was responsible for establishing evacuation centers and keeping local order. Yet apparantly there were no meals ready to eat (MRE's) stored at his designated evacuation center - the Superdome. There was no water purification equipment on site, no chemical toilets, anti-biotics or anti-diarrheals stored for a crisis. The mayor had not designated any medical staff to work the evacuation center. The city had not established a secure sick bay within the Superdome. The city had not sent police or other vehicles through the poorest neighborhoods with evacuation announcements prior to the storm. Additionally, the city stored the school buses on low ground where they were flooded and then not available for evacuation.
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And then we have that genius Blanco: Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding....
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Apparently this had not occurred to her. Her concern for the poor and disenfranchised is truly touching...
From http://84.96.22.11/observabilis/...sult.html&-
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She said Thursday night that 300 soldiers from the Arkansas National Guard had arrived -- "fresh back from Iraq."
"These are some of the 40,000 extra troops that I have demanded," Blanco said. "They have M-16s, and they're locked and loaded ... I have one message for these hoodlums: These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so if necessary, and I expect they will." ----
They didn't even follow their own disaster plan: (http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&
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Yup you are a bucha FuckTards....
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it seems we wont see bush cleaning NO halliburton got the contract 
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During the 2004 election, I received numerous Kerry-bashing e-mails from irtually every right-winged friend (?) I know. When I would read them, I would see the humor and laugh. When I would send them a Bush-bashing e-mail, they could not stand it and most of them no longer correspond with me.
I am sending this article to everyone of them. They propably won't be able to stand it because they can't stand the truth.
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This is the most true and shocking and scary thing I have read about this whole heartbreaking episode. Steve, you rock, you said it best. God help us all.
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Fuck Godwin's law. Anybody who's still a Republican after the events of the past week is a Nazi at heart. The poor are their Jews.
Godwin's Law needs updating. The poor or black (preferably, poor and black) are their domestic version of Sunni Arabs. The Grover Norquist's of the world have to have a demographic to demonize as the root of the problem.
You watch. In the next week, it will be the victim's fault.
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I've linked this article on my Dutch weblog.
Well done!
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While I was running around weekend after weekend for Kerry, i kept telling everyone that this fool could not keep us safe. All of those "security Moms" were wrong. If you know any of these people, be compassionate toward them and allow them to change their minds. After all, could you face your own culpability in supporting this Administration?
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MORE HURRICANES ON THE WAY! HURRICANE SEASON HAS 3-4 MONTHS LEFT! GOODBYE N.O! FOREVER!
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Sure, toss out Nagin and Blanco. They'll have good company with the Bush Administration.
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lol you people are funny 
Shit, even though i'm only 17 i know that kerry or gore or any of those fags you call candidates wouldn't have done better. It's funny how you people flip out whenever the Right criticized you, yet when it's your turn you can be just as vicious, if not more. I'm not even really a conservative myself, I'm more moderate.
I've been to both sides of the spectrum, right and left. And I must say, Bush comes off as a better choice than anyone you could have ever thought up. Hillary Clinton? Cunt. Kerry/Edwards? Faggots. Al Sharpton? one word: NIGGER.
Now don't you go calling me a right wing bible-pushing homophobe. I'm jewish, plus i'm a homosexual. I've been in a homosexual relationship for almost a year now, and I love him very much. But I don't believe gay marriage is right. I'm all for civil unions that are just as equal as marriages, but they don't have to be one and the same.
Don't try to make this a segregational issue either. Because you guys are the biggest hypocrites i've ever seen. You flip out over combining church and state. You won't allow prayer in schools. You want "Under God" taken out of the Pledge of Allegiance, when most schools have already stated "if you do not wish to say that part, you do not have to." and you can't force people to pledge allegiance to the country that gives them all the freedom they use to bash.
But what's this? Gay marriages? Marriage is not a strictly legal procedures, you demoncrats. It was founded way before america was founded, and as what? A RELIGIOUS PROCEDURE. That means that if you allow gay marriage, you force religions that, for good reasons or bad, do not approve of or flat out forbid gay unions to HAVE to accept homosexuals as individuals who can get married.
But onto the topic at hand. Katrina is a NATURAL DISASTER. September 11th was a TERRORIST ATTACK. Two different things. Bush went onto Air Force One because that is PROCEDURE. If it was Gore in the white house, the same would have been done with him, only he would have pissed his pants. Besides, as a natural disaster, it's almost impossible to 100% predict how severe it will be, and where it will go. You can't blame anyone but the city itself, for two reasons: 1. For being built BELOW SEA LEVEL, and 2. for not being prepared well enough.
Now niggers are looting, raping, and killing innocents and police, as well as SHOOTING AT RESCUE CHOPPERS. Bet you wish they were still picking cotton now, eh?
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Joshua,
Blow me, you mother fucking ass.
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Let me rephrase that, Joshua.
Those committing the major crimes in the disaster area should probably be shot on sight...
Aw, fuck it. Your little prick should be dropped in the middle of NOLA. There's no explaining this to trash like you.
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I linked this from whatreallyhappened.com... 1st time reader, and I'm blown away.
I just sent this to everyone I know. Thanks for saying what we're all thinking. Awesome job!!
Chauncy Gardiner... LMFAO
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Thank you for saying that openly Josh.
It's refreshing to hear what's really under the surface spoken plainly.
Just as a reminder, folks, this asshat represents about a third of the population.
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Incredible, Steve.
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Steve, you're right on target here. The rise of Bush and neocons parallels the rise of the Nazi party in late 20's Germany. The brainwashing of the masses and aligned ownership of the media makes it a slam dunk.
That prepubescents of every age--like Joshua--can write such utter garbage, says it all.
They demonized John Kerry as being a coward. The man won 3 Purple Hearts and was in Nam while Bush was hiding in Texas. They demonize those who criticize the war as being un-American. How will they paint dissenters now.
To Joshua, please know that crack kills.
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> WE TOLD YOU SO
You can tell us anything you want, you're still wrong.
What I see is a picture of a woman who along with hundreds of thousands of others were failed by their Democrat Mayor Ray Nagin and Democrat Gov. Kathleen Blanco.
Here's another picture, one of many just like it ...
http://news.yahoo.com/news?
tmpl=...flpc21109012015
Hundreds of buses, school, public and others sat idle around the city of New Orleans because state and local officials failed to use them to get people out - instead leaving them to their own devices to get out as the storm was bearing down.
It was the state of Louisiana and the city of New Orleans that declared the emergency and ordered mandatory evacuations BEFORE the storm struck...
It was the state of Louisiana and the city of New Orleans that failed to get it's residents to safety...
The ONLY reason there's a human tragedy in New Orleans AFTER the storm is because once again two Democrats, Mayor Ray Nagin and Gov. Kathleen Blanco failed to act and created it.
Two Democrats proving once again, Democrats are unfit to lead.
And once again the people who support those Democrats trying to blame others for their own failures.
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SHILL-I highly recommend you all look it up. Bush is not alone.Americans should ask--who in the Fuck is behand these creeps. The Democrat and Republican parties are both housing the evil ones.Take the USA flag--those stars are really all Stars of Davids. Steve could be more outright and not hide the culprits by the word fuck.Stevie--try replacing Fuck with JEWUS instead and the whole blight is exposed. Believe it or not--all wars have been for Jewish greed. Want to save the world from ameriKaKa-send the Jews a packing back to Russia and Poland.
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You think Bush is dangerous? God help us then if we ever inhaerit Cheney or the evil Hillary. And Rice is not much better with her going to a play and shoe shopping in NYC during the tragedy.In fact, the whole bunch are worthless to humanity. They just don't care about us.
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1.5 million barrels a day just got ripped out of production, effectively jump-starting Peak Oil ... oh god we're fucked. Good luck Americans, demand destruction will hit you the hardest (because you demand the most) and dear leader intends to let you die. Arm up and get ready to fend for yourselves. I'm gonna get even morre drunk, see you on the other side fuckers
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Just remember one important thing. It will take guns to back up a society that wishes to change the status quo. You better get some good ones, like .45s and 308 auto rifles to speak back to a government that dosen't listen ro care what you have to say. Do it now while they can still be had. Martial law is coming to America and you ain't ready for that, my friends.
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By the way, Kent mentioned riots by the soldiers in IraQ, WHILE WATCHING THEIR FAMILIES SUFFER.
IT'S ABOUT TIME!
About time GIs stand together use both logic/sense,and resist the nonsense of allowing themselves to be shipped out of the country on a fool's errand.
I ask you, "How would you know when the last terrorist is killed?"
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Bush fucked up freepers. Simple as that. Just keep being a good German, and I'm sure that God will forgive you for supporting a mass murderer.
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The Zipperheads KNOW how bad George FUCKED up. They see it SO CLEARLY that they KNOW just BLAMING THE VICTIMS won't cut it this time. "Swift-boating" New Orleans isn't going to work.
So bring on the Racists to Deflect the issue AWAY from Georgies Failures. Get people reacting in angry over the Racism to avoid talking about the FACTS:
$250 Million THEN = $10 Billion NOW.
60 percent of LA Guard is in Iraq.
Bush continued to do fund raisers and Photo-Ops instead of his job.
What is a poor Zipperhead Bushpig to do?
Why, Explain how the Niggers deserved it of course.
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Joshua-you terd.
For a 17 yearold you sure have a foul mouth.Soon buster, your going to have such a enlarge anus from getting big dicks in it. I bet before your 20,you'd be wearing diapers.
speaking of HOMOS--Bush is Homo---27 weekends the fag Jew Gannon visted the whitehouse at $6ooo each time.It is known that most homesexuals are Jewish.Yes ,History sucks---Rome empire came to an abrupt end---rampent homosexuality--welcome aboard Joshua---you puuuuuuk!
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When terrorists hit the heart of Wall St. on 9/11, after cowering for awhile on Air Force One, Bush rushed to make as much political hay out of it as he could, FEMA was there the day before and Bush had reports of Bin Laden's determination to strike America a month prior.
With Katrina, Bush avoided New Orleans like a dead soldiers mother, stayed on his vacation and took some party faithful photo ops even as the devastation became more evident until Americans looked to their public servant to serve them and someone in the White House figured out that this detatchment from disaster might look bad for Bush, so they sent him on a photo op there as well.
Thinking that voting Democrat will change things in this country is like thinking that you won't stink as much if you change from one pair of soiled undergarments to another less soiled pair. Everyone is quick to point the finger (or give the finger), but none of our public servants will take responsiblity for a mess they all helped to create.
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Typical thumbsuckng democrat fare, but with more than your usual vulgarity. I guess when you have no logical argument, just fall back on cursing!
Bush pre-declared N.O. a disaster area, he told Blanco to make the evacuation mandatory. Why the hell did Nagin think putting people in the Superdome with no food or water would be a good idea? How about those 230 school buses sitting in six feet of water? Gee, you think Nagin could've used those? Do you think a city that sits below sea level would have a disater plan? I guess their plan was "let the good times roll, then call the feds." There was an incredible amount of resources already on the ground by Wednesday. It took nine days to get the relief effort rolling after Andrew. Just because the news teams can get there and start bitching doesn't mean that giant supply convoys can get there that fast. Democrats usng this tragedy for political gain disgust me.
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That photo of the refugee (poor, black, forgotten) should be placed on every billboard in America, just to remind us every day. What an unforgettable image!
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Hooah!
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BRILLIANT STEVE!!!!
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Said in language even a Bushie could understand....
More articles documenting Bush's Folly before it happened, including some from the New Orleans papers:
http://prissypatriot.blogspot.com
Like someone above said, stock up-we cannot count on this ship of fools to save anyone except themselves.....
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Jeez! Don't candy coat it. Tell it like it is! (impeach the lieing, cheating, scumbag war criminals NOW!)
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Amen.
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Jose Rudman,
You are on the wrong site. Let me direct you to the appropriate site in order for you to properly address the biggest fucking traitor to our people that we or the world has *ever* seen.
http://www.whitehouse.gov
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""France expresses readiness to bring aid and comfort, first to the Creoles then to the needy Negroes, in the former French colony of Louisiana. The local white supremacist cops are either AWOL or looting both Creole mansions and slave cabins. Pacifist young Negro males are forced to defend themselves with forks and spoons. The Yankees, once again, have occupied the French Quarter of New Orleans," said the French foreign minister."
Its just incredible...read on..
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Joshua,
When I was 17 I was an idiot too.
Bush gut FEMA, replacing an experienced disaster planner with a political crony. FEMA was ordered to stop disaster preparedness planning, because that was supposed to be taken over by the Dep't of Homeland Security, which somehow never got around to it. Bush has shown no leadership in dealing with this. Bush has placed us in a position where precious resources are being squandered abroad.
You're right, a hurricane is a natural disaster. A *regularly occuring* natural disaster, affecting *more than one state.* People are talking about NOLA because that's where the worst is happening, but don't forget that the response all along the Gulf has been terrible. People have been screaming for years that New Orleans was at risk, and the funding for work on the levees has been decimated... and not just this past year, either.
The government's response to this has been atrocious. Unlike, terrorist attacks, hurricanes are sort of predictable: you don't know where it's going to strike, but you know there's a good chance a strong storm will hit *somewhere* -- and if not hurricanes, then floods, blizzards, earthquakes or mudslides. I don't think we've gone more than a 4-5 years without a significant natural disaster for the past quarter century. Al Gore may not have been wonderful, but he sure as hell was smarter than to have let FEMA go to hell.
So maybe you should just shut up and let those of us who are adults who understand things like nuance and natural consequences talk about this, okay?
P.S. -- What the *hell* does same-sex marriage have to do with *anything*? Idiot.
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FEMA was so well organized 4 years ago it was already in NYC on September 10th 2001 - and had all the WTC steel from shipped to China before you could say 'destruction of evidence'.
This year, in the event of a genuine and unplanned disaster, we see how this mob couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewrey.
FEMA appears to be run by criminals who can follow orders to co-ordinate false-flag operations, but lack any talent in the filed of disaster management.
Time to put 'incompetence theories' behind us, face the world as it really is and arrest those who comit major crimes. FEMA's top management should be high on the arrest list.
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Hear, hear. Great post.
Note to neo-con troll:
a. 9/11! 9/11! 9/11!
b. Bubble Boy spent funds to fix NO in Iraq, which is why levees were not upgraded. His line "no one anticipated that the levees would be breached" is either a lie or reflects the fact that he's a big-time MAROON.
c. Bubble Boy sent LA National Guard to Iraq, which is why they were unable to rush to the scene.
d. Quoth Bubble Boy: "Poor people are poor because they're lazy." That your opinion, too?
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I can see that most of the folks down in the hurricane/battle zone are well aware that Bush is a fucktard. He works for the same fucktards the Clintons do...they are "friends". Just like Kerry, and all other "pro" politicians. They all need to be taken out, before they complete the tasks they have mapped out. (Patriot Act 2; FEMA detention camps aka "gulag", etc.) Those who blindy obey them are either stupid beyond belief or just too much of a coward to stand up to them...or maybe just a little "evil" themselves. Go ahead, call me a nutcase like you always do..it changes nothing. You fuckers that play their game will gets your's too...as soon as they finish using you they will throw you away. They have no compassion, value nothing but their own safety, etc. Notice how Bushfuck has a nice picnic to wrap up his 5 fuckin' week vacation! Choke on that food you ignorant fuck! Say your prayers, it does no good. Bush knows that, he's not quite as stupid as he acts...he's just plain evil.
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NICE! Dead on. Chimpeach the basterd!
~axisofasses
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It sickens me that there are people that are still so willfully blind, that still buy into the "blame the victims" mantra that is the rotten core of the conservative philosphy- not just the Bush administration.
"Compassionate Conservatism" is an oxymoron. The facts are had the budget for the levees not been cut, they wouldn't have broken- this clearly lays the blame at Bush's feet right where it belongs. All this other conservative blather is nonsense designed to distract from that main salient point: funds for the levees were diverted for unnecessary and unjutfied tax cuts as well as a war based on lies. And now those facts need to come home to roost, again, and again until every last sheep gets it- even if we have to put them on buses, bus them to NOLA and wade them into the water saying: "Do you get it yet? Do you see what you voted for?"
And to the idiots who think we should just "get along" - its that atttiude (well along with rigged elections) more than anything else that have kept the people who would serve this country best out of office the last 2 election cycles.
Fuck loyalty. Fuck going along. The Democratic message should be :" This is wrong and we are better". Because we are. We're not the ones debating tax breaks for millionaires while people suffer and die. We're not the ones who cut essential funding to pay for wars started with lies.
God, I am so sick. Sick of conservatisms hollow core ("A flood that we could've prevented? Sorry, you're on your own. Personal responsobility!") and moral irrelevance. I'm sick of them using "personal responiblity to get out from under the greater resposnbility we all have - the responibility to help one another.
But mostly, I'm sick of the chimp in cheif and all his neo-con handlers.
Can we impeach them now befoer the do any more damage?
Please.
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Fuckin' DOUBLE-A! I'm not a religious man, but amen, brother, amen.
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God is punishing you assholes for murdering Iraqi's who want you out. Things were better with Sadaam There, Now Look N.O. looks like Baghdad! LOL! More To Come! You can't commit genocide on innocent Muslims and expect nothing to happen back to you. LOL!
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"God is punishing you assholes for murdering Iraqi's who want you out."
No genuine Muslim would say that.
You are a zionist troll. Yawn.
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I'm from the hidden hand! GUESS WHAT!
THE TERRORIST HAVE A WEATHER WEAPON! MORE HURRICANES ON THE WAY! THEY CAN CONTROL THE WEATHER! THE WEAPON IS HIDDEN IN BIN LADENS BEARD! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! RUN TO IDAHO MY FELLOW REPS.!
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Annie, you ignorant racist bigoted slut.
Go fuck yourself.
And Joshua, you best get some therapy for your self-hatred. You're gay but think you should be discriminated against.
Get some edumacation too.
Thanks for the post Steve. The trolls need to see it even if they can't handle the truths in it.
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You know from eyewitness reports that the people in the Dome were very patient and quiet and law-abiding. The looting done a bit of food and water by hungry people- I would ABSOLUTELY do the same. THe people in the photos were heroicly bringing the stuff back to their families. The few taking electronics and clothes - wre fools - but that was NOTHING - peanuts compared to the looting of the entire country and economy by the large corporations - ALL of them - now oil gouging - especially in the South. AND the looting by the slime Bush, CHeney and the rest of the Gang. Tlak about them and Congress being on vacation during this time, and the excuse that they and FEMA "didnnnn't knnnooow."
It's still not over, because FEMA is NOT allowing in, the Red Cross and the rest of the people coming in to help - and the vast amounts of private individuals that got supplies - held back.
The only ones allowed in is the military.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW?
They're are removing the alligators AND the dead bodies from the flooded areas - vast amounts of dead - and the pieces.
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The military is also confiscating cameras and film from the photographers - and kicking them out.
They're sanitizing up the picture - so that in the end - when the public - AMerican and foreign are allowed to see, AGAIN - the real horrors will are gone.
JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH HURRICANE ANDREW.
Yet, while the U.S> people are not seeing this, it is too late for the cover-up, because photos have gone out of the areas worldwide. All the reality has been seen by the ourside world.
ANd why does the U.S. do this?
To keep the people here, quiet and passive, because if the MAJORITY OF THE AMERICANS knew about the extent of their greed - their deliberate syphoning of the money for the upkeep of the levees - to destroy the city - and the economy - and by way of passing, the Middle Class - which the Lower echelon - had a hope to achieving - to rise - from their poverty to the Middle-class- if the masses knew of the PURE EVIL this Administration is, they could no longer control us - there would be such a rising of the Masses, that it would be they would have to run for their lives.
And you all can curse and rant and rave, and do nothing at the end . Because those in power know that this is just a way of us letting off steam, and they are laughing at us.
Talking is cheap. But what are we going to do about the situation?
It's not a matter of going off with a gun and trying to shoot them. It's a matter of quiet resistance to the injustice here, and ongoing.
Find a way to resist. For example, not giving all information on forms - jumbling up numbers here and there. Throwing a spoke in the wheels, instead of allowing them to run smoothly.
YOu know we are slaves - all of us - we pay more than the rest of the wold - over 40 % of our salary -not only in Income Tax - but sales tax (grocery tax - clothing tax, etc.) and yet, this gathered moneys are used to invent weaponry to attack our neighbors and are being turned against us. As an ex. : TASERS. - under the excuse of "CROWD CONTROL"- but in reality used against peaceful protestors against injustice.
So how much uch are we going to put up with. It's good to vent, but NOW is the time do actively resist.
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There is no Democratic leadership in opposition to Bush because the Democratic leadershp in this country sold out a long, long time ago to many of the same entities and interests that back the chimp.
As Gore Vidal has tirelessly pointed out, America has ONE political party, with two right wings. The first wing is the reactionary party, and it is called the Republicans. The other wing is the conservative pparty, and it is called the Democrats. What both these wings have in common, as members of the same party, is that they both represent the interests of PROPERTY. Hence, the term "Property Party."
And by "property" we aren't talking your typical, middle-class or even upper class single-family residence. We're talking the BIG OWNERS of the corporations and all of their humongous assets. In other words, we're talking about the super-rich.
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America is the laughing stock of the world. We deserve it.
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When you're relying on Gov. Helmethead, Rick Perry, to save your ass, you really are sad.
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Well said Steve. Americans have to decide are they with their fellow Americans or against them, you cannot be in support of the Bush regime, as well as supporting the American people.
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An absolute brilliant piece of poetry… I will be sending this to everyone I know, despite the profanity. The state of LA should have already had an evacuation plan into place, whether the funding for the levees was cut or not, because you never know what Mother Nature can do. The governor and mayor should’ve had the remaining residents bussed out of the city, not holding your hands together in the Superdome and wishing for the best.
NO for the most part is poverty-stricken, so don't let that tourist shit deceive you. People sticking around to loot? Let's not be ridiculous when discussing this travesty. The majority of the poor didn't have transportation to flee the upcoming danger.
And where was the voice of the Democrats, and other civil leaders at this time? Sleeping on the job again? It's bad enough your deafening silence betrayed the democracy of this country when Dubya stole an election for the SECOND time, but this? The evidence is clear, American citizens! Democrats and Republicans are playing for the same major-league, their salaries paid for by the association called the Tyrannious Neo-Con Elite. They just play on different teams, pitching the same fuckin' bullshit game at each other day after day, year after year.
Must visit sites: they will tell you news the lame mainstream won’t!!
www.whatreallyhappened.com
www.moneyfiles.org/temp.html
www.conspiracyarchive.com
www.nola.com
There is something profoundly wrong with our federal government when they consficate cameras and suppress information to the American public about the amount of the dead and suffering. They are even preventing the Red Cross and other organizations from providing the help and resources these victims so desperately need with political BS.
Indeed, everything is going as the neo-cons planned…they will utilize this as their stepping stone to inevitably erode and crash the U.S. economy...IMHO is just around the corner. Stock up on food, water, and essential items while you can, folks...and for God’s sake, GET THE MOTHERFUCK OUT OF DEBT…'cause this party will soon come to an tragic close, and eclipse 9-11 and Katrina profoundly.
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Steve that kicked ass so hard even MINE hurts.
Damb, just damb!
Maybe we should blast LTE Steve's screed?
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one word - Ceausescu.
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The most dangerous thing to average Americans is not some mullah in Iraq, not even Osama Bin Laden, but George Bush.
everyone...
suffers
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Always glad to see the lefties become unhinged...
'especially like your "Well, motherfuckers, the alligators are feasting on dead nigger and there isn't an Iraqi in sight."
Keep it up, you'll win an election someday freaks!
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Impeach Bush?!When this is over with in NOLA,instead of wasting time finger pointing,we,as Americans should ban together and demand that the ENTIRE federal govenment RESIGN,not just fema,homeland(in)security,but even white house officials,bush,rice,cheney,rumsfeld,chertoff,cabin
et members,the entire barrel of incompetent,corrupt,war profiteering,war mongols,and the entire PNAC/AIPAC crowd that has infested our government.george bush and his crowd of traitors have fucked up on 9/11,on iraq,and now have fucked up on NOLA relief efforts.3 strikes and they're out!!!!!
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Bush and the so-called "Christians" that worship at his altar are all going to Hell. Soulless hypocritical cowards the lot of them!
Notice none of his keyboard commando repubic bloggers are fighting his wars, and none of them are volunteering to help in nola either.
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Rock on, Steve. That's some quality rant, and some quality truth.
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Everyone should vote for Mayor Ray Nagin for President. He did such a good job in preparing his people for the Hurricane. New Orleans is a great city to live in with all the crime, poverty and dependence on the government. Lets vote for Ray Nagin so the entire US can be on welfare.
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The people of Louisiana need to storm the capital and lynch that Blanco bitch! Then the rest of us need to storm DC and take this country back from the evil, incompetent fucks that cheated their way in. If we do not use this event for a moral revolution we are all doomed!
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"But how can a party that ostensibly speaks for around 50% of Americans let things deteriorate to this degree? Will it take a negligence that destroys New Orleans to give these people some balls?"--------
It seems to slip your mind that we are the MINORITY in congress and as such we can't get ANYTHING done.
I agree they need to speak out more, but until we win back the house, EVERY Democrats hands are tied.
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Right fucking on.
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As the mother of a soldier about to spend his second full year in Iraq, and as a working middle class slave in America, I applaud your directness.
I think that sums up what ALL of us who have cared enough to read about and educate ourselves on where this country is going are feeling. I'm not Democrat, Republican, nor Independent. It doesn't really matter, they're all bought and paid for and a joke as a party. They all have a few good people....very few. I vote for candidates on records and platforms. That doesn't really seem to matter though either, as we here in Florida and Ohio know well.
I can't understand why people aren't waking up faster. I don't want it to be too late for my son too. I don't want to have to get a second job, just to survive.
Well said, thank you. Looking for some ray of hope.
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Oh come on, Steve, tell us how you really feel. Stop holding back.
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Thanks.
Just thanks.
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Hell fuck yeah. Wow, Bush hugged two girls. Now they really need a shower.
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I am a vistor to this group.
You all might not be aware that the President had ask Lousiana and New Orleans leaders to order an evacuation on August 28, and that the evacuation should have been conducted by those folks and the National Guard. The National Guard was not called up until two days after Katrina's landfall. (The Governor, not the President, is responsible for calling up the National Guard) There should not have been any folks in New Orleans except emergency workers.
Is every thing the fault of the President? Has this group no sense of individual responsibility?
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Fuck, that was good. I gave you a shout-out at my place. Pogge gave you one at his:
http://www.pogge.ca/
I have nothing more to say. I'm speechless with admiration for one of the best right-on rants I've come across in many a year. Do it again.
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Looks like Steve's getting Freeped.
Hi Freepers! I hope you all die slow, painful deaths while lying in your own shit. Oh, I hope you are outside on a sidewalk and its 90 degrees with 90% humidity. Oh, let's surround you with rats and garbage too. Acutally that's too good for the average Freeptard.
Steve, you should be the head of FEMA! Keep telling the truth!
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Great rant, Steve.
If NYC is attacked again and Bush is in hiding as usual, what say we meet up at the 90th Street ferry dock....might work.
All the posters who think this is about Jews; go fuck yourselves!
Those of you who still worship Dear Leader; move to North Korea so that the rest of us can have our country back.
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It borders somewhere between wild hilarity and great, depressing pity to read the occasional Bush-supporter pee his pants here for all to see. I try to envision who within the middle or lower class could ever have anything resembling faith in this combination of dictator-puppet but then, I remember that somehow, 55 million voted for this fraud.
Bush supporters have been in full retreat lately. I find the defense of this clown to be amazing, bordering on what some would see at a football game. Problem is, our kids are getting killed in Iraq for a war based on lies and people are dying in the Gulf Coast region thanks to incompetence.
Who in their right mind can say they are better off than they were 5 years ago?
The doings of this administration would have caused overthrows in most nations around the world. Sadly, Americans sleep.
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Cutting funding for levees and refusing aid for those desperately in need is the fault of the Bush regime Andy. And you cannot deny that.
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09.03.05 - 4:34 pm | #
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You are not being realistic
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woot!
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GD right.
You come to Seattle, 'bre, you're not paying for a thing, hear? You let me know if you make it out here.
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Andy,
Sure, I'm all for taking responsibility. I wish Bush would take responsibility for what he's done when he ignored the boring old crumbling infrastructures of that particular inner cities.
Now about those people without cars or who are too sick to be moved from the hospitals or who were told they'd be safe if they'd evacuate to that now-hideous stadium. How exactly do you want them to take responsibility?
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Yes voice 1, The aid for levees was cut many times in many Congress sessions. But emostly it was becaus matching funds from the local administration was not supplied.
Denying aid? Not by FEMA, coordination of aid is local.
I don't suppose you know about private jet, casinos and other "investments" of the New Orleans Levee board. Maybe Bush should have sacked them retards. Oh, they were not his appointments to sack. Too bad.
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Kate, Right, those poor folks without transportation were let down by the City. Using some of the 1500 school buses left to soak would have been a start.
A lot of things would have helped, but it is just sick to use this sad case for a rant about the President.
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The Federal authorities have denied aid Andy, I will return to your other points again, but a couple of articles for now:
Red Cross not allowed to enter New Orleans:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/0...5246/
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Chicago mayor shocked by rejection of aid:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/h...ws-
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US rejects Canadian help:
http://storiesinamerica.dailykos...8/31/235829/
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Florida airboat pilots help rejected:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news...la-news-
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You go. Well said. And courageous. Good for you.
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Excellent post. Republicans are the most despicable pieces of shit this earth has ever crapped out. They will support the lies, eat their McDonalds and be subhuman in their thinking... then call those of us who care "unpatriotic." The nerve of these people is beyond belief. Fucking hypocrites!
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fucking wonderful stuff. I'm coming back everyday for more. Thank you sir.
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Actually seems like it would be impossible to prepare for this even with air conditioned buses. No doubt the refugees pouring out of the area beforehand would have been turned away by other cities--where would they put them?
The scientists who suggested before this hurricane season that FEMA have the basics of a refugee area was told "Americans don't live in tents."
Actually the only way to prepare is to NOT ignore the engineers who said this was going to happen and to not cut funding to the Army Corp of Engineers that asked for 27 mill to improve the levees.
We'll never know if the money that Hardin and other local and state pols have asked for for years would have made a difference. That's a tragedy.
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All of these republicans are saying we should not start the blame game... They said that same shyt after 9/11 and they said the same when we couldn't find WMD's... U only get 2 "my bads" in a b'ball pick-up game before folks just stop passing u the ball.. GOD don't like ugly... No GOD fearing individual regardless of his political affiliation should never try to justify or marginalize things that our just plain WRONG!!!!
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That was fucking beautiful.
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Ya'll liberal democrat wieners! Go back to your country!
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The silence from the White House on this whole horrible nightmare will be the same as it always is with all their blunders and "fixed" policies.
The President has a whole shitload of problems on his plate right now. Anyone else notice how he has developed a nervous twitch in his lower jaw? Like he grinds it from side to side, it's really annoying.
My heart is out to the people of the affected regions. How the hell could the gov't (at whatever level) leave all those school buses in New Orleans to rot in the water and not think about driving them out of town for the sake of their survival, NOT TO MENTION the safety of the people that could have been in their SEATS!!!!!!! I've yet to hear of one single provision made for people without vehicles. Was there any by anyone?
Tens of thousands of people brought to a place without thought for police, supplies, or sanitary needs. People on an interstate overpass, in plain view, in the middle of a US city, without food and water for DAYS!!!!!! WTF? How? Why? OMG we're all so screwed.
I think private sources have/are going to save what's left of the day for all those people. We should find out who came to their aid and donate directly to THEM. All the boat owners, people searching and helping, medical workers, police and fire, etc. Especially people who came from afar. God bless them all.
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NO BLOOD FOR GUMBO!!!
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AMEN!!!
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Bravo! It's time someone said this.
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No, I disagree. New Yorkers have had their heads in their asses since 911.
Denial ain't just a river in the ME somewhez.
Get out of your SUV's and kill your TV's and burn that mutherfucker Bush and Clinton.
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Bush and company has never been anything but a bunch of snake oil salesmen out for themselves. He sold himself as being the guy you want when the shit hit the fan. Well once again the shit hit the fan and he was no where to be found. Even though I never bought the line of crap he was selling I suffer right along with everyone else. Now more than ever that dumb ass needs a one way ticket to Crawford. IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!!!!!!!
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Bush is God! Bush is Jesus! Bush is the Holy One! Let us praise him! Now that he is amongst us, now that he has flown over the ravaged city, we will be blessed. Oh, thank you O Holy Bush-Jesus, blessed Messiah!
Let us never speak ill of this, our great great man-god! For he can do no wrong! God forbid we could ever utter a negative word against our Holy Leader! He (Our Holy Bush-God) is always right no matter what he does! Bush is Lord! Let us praise him!
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Thank you for speaking for a middle aged white vietnam vet. Bush will go down in history as the worst president we have ever had.
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It's funny to see the Bush wusses talking about 'personal responsibility' while a). Bush or Karl Rove haven't taken personal responsibility for outing Valerie Plame b). prowar Bush wusses are still in the US too cowardly to fight in the war they love so much c). the head Bush wuss was too much a coward to talk to a grieving mother who wanted to know why he lied to start a war,and d). Louisiana National guard troops who should have been here guarding the nation were instead fighting an illegal (and totally unconstitutional) war of conquest in the Middle East. What a bunch of hypocrite Republicans, which I realise is a redudndancy.
Great post, by the way, I look forward to the next one.
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What a crock. And you're just full of the lousiest, juvenile language in existence. How about instead of spending hours ranting and raving about Bush, you get off your ass and help the people who are suffering? YOU failed Americans when you chose to sit there and vent your spleen. Whatever happened to "Judge not lest ye be judged?" Oh yeah, that only counts when a Liberal wants to get their hands on porn and sleep around and spread AIDS. Liberalism is a mental disease.
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How true Steve is. All I will say is that I voted Kerry because I knew Bush was full of shit.
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What vile and putrid sentiments here. This is the best you scum can do? Talk!?
Come on, you cowards. Arm up. Just try and implement your treason. I am ready. (and much better armed than you).
Go to hell, traitors.
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Quite the echo chamber you have here, you must be proud, why don't you blame New Orleans on JFK, he could have fixed it too, or how about Clinton, he could have fixed it, shall I continue......
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This is truly a proud day if my fellow Americans are waking up from 5 years hard labor.
The moniker says Canadian, the birth certificate says American. In any land, it's time to wake up, rise up, and reclaim our country back!
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Say it, brother. Conservative bitches must PAY.
http://members.cox.net/cowicide/
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Great commentary,Steve
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I blame Bill Clinton for the hurricane.
I blame Hillary Clinton for the problems at FEMA
I blame the liberal media for showing the crisis that otherwise wouldn't have existed.
I blame Air America for not allowing Congress and the President a chance to impliment their 'vision'.
I blame the French for the inspirational architecture that got swallowed up by the hurricane and floods.
I blame liberals for freeing the slaves who would have been safe on a plantation.
But most of all...I blame REPUBLICANS for letting each and everyone of those to EXIST.
BUSH is great!!!!! Every republican says so. Even Jesus would have voted for him.
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I love it.
Channel that fury into working a George W. Bush sucks comment in every entry.
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a-fucking-men! we CANNOT let the bastards slide off the hook for this monumental fuck-up. but who among the elected will speak up (besides john conyers)? the media is awakening from their drug-induced slumber, but i fear the anger may not reach the halls of congress. we have to remind the country come 2006. WE have to be the hurricane and flood, and wash the bastards off their fat asses and into retirement.
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I'm so glad somebody said it. All of it. Thank you.
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amazing! i have to link to this
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Kudos for you for writing all the words many of us are too angry to type ourselves. I live in Ohio (home of the fucktards who were the deciding factor in the Nov 2004 election). Most of the people around me are Bush supporters. This week, they've lowered their heads and admitted he has failed America.
Bush has the highest rate of vacation time spent while in office. While on vacation, he's now had, not one but TWO fucking tragedies occur on his watch. He may have pulled the wool over many American's eyes after 9/11, but he can no longer do that.
The American public is FINALLY waking up and seeing this bastard and his administration for what they are.
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lol...BLAME IT ON THE GOVERNMENT. BLAME IT ON THE FEDS.
What about the LA state government that didn't have a god damn clue what was going on, nor had any plans to pursue. Why wasn't everyone evactuated period. You can't expect the whole problem to be solved instantly.
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Hurricane Katrina, what a boon for libs and Dems! Thank the weather gods and the floods and the dead and dying and suffering, all can be used to bash Bush*!
I hope there's at least 100,000 dead, they can all be pinned on Bush*!
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"Whores come faster with old men than FEMA is getting to NOLA."
Damn, yes! Thanks, Steve.
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not paying taxes anymore as long as bush in office. jail me for all i care.
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tehbot, you're an idiot. We don't bash Bush because we hate him. We despise him because he is incompetant and disasterous for the country.
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Sweet!
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It's worse than you think. Bush and friends were perfectly aware that there were people dying in New Orleans and that help was desperately needed.
The fact is, Bush and his friends DON'T CARE. He really DOES care more about Trent Lott's home being lost than about the deaths of the poor people in New Orleans. He has no capacity for empathy. This tragedy literally means nothing to him.
The people of New Orleans are mostly Black and don't have corporate headquarters in their city, as New York did.
When do the impeachments proceedings start? I've been waiting for months. What does it take to convince people that this has to happen, and now?
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this is the most eloquent shit i have heard in my life. glory to gilliard
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Look at all the right wing trolls and Bush defenders here who can't bear the thought of not being able to drink any more of Bush's semen.
Does Bush's cock taste that good, you worthless pieces of shit?
Those attacking Steve Gilliard for what he wrote are the same types who were probably standing with Marie Antoinette and condemning, for their "irrational hatred," the people who were then revolting against the corrupt aristocrats.
Those lucky French had guillotines to deal with your ilk back then. Too bad we of today are not so fortunate.
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Yeah! Yeah!
Now if only a Democrat would say this sort of stuff.
I cannot imagine a democracy any where in the world in which the lead opposition party would not be lambasting the Republicans every day for their utter incompetence.
The Democrats are not the answer -- they are part of the problem.
America needs a mainstream, populist-based, political party.
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It is now official. President George W. Bush, Mr. Compassionate Conservative, has a Compassion Deficit. And as I predicted, he is turning to conservative uber-villain Bill Clinton to save him from it.
For the full story, see:
"Bush's Compassion Deficit: Clinton to the Rescue."
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what makes you liberal fucks think the same thing wouldn't happen if Kerry was in office. Its the federal infrastructure. period. You honestly think 1 man can snap his fingers and everything be instantly fixed? You want instant answers, you don't know half of the fucking truth. Its easy to point the finger and lash out. What about the governor and mayer who didn't make the evacuation mandatory...they had no plans and it was their state. Lay the fuck off bush.
ITS so easy to take advantage of a bad situation isn't it? Sad...so sad...
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What vile and putrid sentiments here. This is the best you scum can do? Talk!?
Come on, you cowards. Arm up. Just try and implement your treason. I am ready. (and much better armed than you).
Go to hell, traitors.
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Notice how he-man George neglected to even do us the failure of leaving us his e-mail so that those of us that felt like we wanted to take him up on his challenge could actually begin to see about doing so?
'Bout par for the course for most right wingers.
That's why so many of them are chickenhawks too.
Vermin. Cockaroaches. Human scum.
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I posted a link to this blog in my blog. You said it so much better than I could. Give 'em hell!!!!!
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Thank you for writing this.
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Bravo Steve. I wish I'd written that. You sure as hell know you're on the right track when the mouthbreathers come flooding out of their trollholes to spew at you.
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You sorry ass coward.....
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And when the going gets tough, dubya calls for Clinton.
ha, ha, fuck you anonymous...
America has a stupidity problem, and it's name is "Bush Voter." Pass it on.
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Who cares about anything other than MORE DEATHS? (Except for dead-whiteys; they're of no use, as everyone knows All Whites are Nazis).
Why isn't Mother Sheehan down there in N.O. screaming into the cameras about Hurricane Bush*trina?
100,000+ dead African Americans guarantee we'll take back Congress in '06, and the WH in '08!
If that many have to die, it's worth it!
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You hit the nail on the head Steve.
I awoke from my Republican slumber in 2001. I was in the Amry for 11 years, 8 in the 82nd ABN. Bush has lied about everything. I was tired of swallowing the bullshit. The facts did not match the rhetoric. Soldiers are my people, I grew up with them and lived with them. You assholes who support this war can't seem to serve or have your kids enlist in the Military. Cowards. I served my time. I'm a Combat Vet. You NeoCon supporters "write checks with your mouth your body can't cash."
Bush supporters, he is fucking you just as hard and not even going to give you a kiss goodnight. He is not against the "Liberal Scourge" but MODERATES! Everything to the left of his twisted ideology is LEFT.
We are going to suffer for New Orleans for YEARS. The economy is tanking, we are losing and maiming our sons while killing hundreds of thousands to feed cash to the no-bid defense contractors. NeoCons have sold this country's soul for greenback. Your new religion is not Christianity, but STATE! Your God is money and your ideology is written by Karl Rove and issued to Fox News. You are now members of the TV hive-mind bent on your own destruction.
Bush is a bipedal, walking cluster-fuck. Hurricane season ends in November. The San Andreas fault still exists. If we have another natural disaster or attack we are fucked as a nation, black, white and green. The only thing Bush is good at is TAKING VACATIONS.
The only redeeming thought is your psychosis is an evolutionary feat to cleanse the planet of filthy greed from future generations.
Fact: Nature abhors a vacuum.
Fact: The earth always seeks equilibrium.
That sucking chest wound is a sign to slow down.
Peace is harder than war.
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what makes you liberal fucks think the same thing wouldn't happen if Kerry was in office.
--Because Kerry probably would have properly funded the flood controll efforts in New Orleans, insteade of cutting the budgets for them as Bush did.
Its the federal infrastructure. period. You honestly think 1 man can snap his fingers and everything be instantly fixed?
--No. But we do honestly think that had there been proper planning and adequate funding by Bush during the past several years, a lot of this stuff that is now happening in New Orleans would not have happened.
You want instant answers, you don't know half of the fucking truth.
--So, why don't you enlighten us, you ignorant cunt? Show us the facts and statistics that document how Bush properly funded and planned for these events during the past several years.
Its easy to point the finger and lash out. What about the governor and mayer who didn't make the evacuation mandatory...they had no plans and it was their state.
--Actually, the Mayor ordered everybody out of the city on Sunday before the hurricane struck. Most of those who were left behind couldn't get out because they didn't have transportation. Usually, the task of evacuating people before a hurricane is left to the National Guard. Unfortunately, Bush (who little cock you love to such) sent much of Louisiana's National Guard and their equipment to Iraq.
Lay the fuck off bush.
--Get fucking informed before you post, asshole. Hint: Stop listening to FOX and Rush, and reading right wing sites.
--God, can you believe how fucking IGNORANT OF THE FACTS these Bush defenders are?
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Make sure next election you put some Democrat in office.
Then tax the living fuck out of everyone...turn the country into a welfare state, then lets let the government control everything else...might as well be fucking Russia the way you traitors talk.
BECAUSE EVERYONE SHOULD BE EQUAL RIGHT? LETS each HAVE 15 BABIES and milk the system. On top of that, lets continue to let everyone and their mother in the country, that way we can all hold hands and be friends.
Lets make life worse for everyone, so at least we are all brought down on the same level.
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Truth About New Orleans
visit http://futuredaddy.blogspot.com
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Has the trillionaire Bush Crime Family fortunes been beached? I doubt it....just blip for now.
New Orleans & Mississippi has taken a big hit & the lost of life staggering...if this isn't a wake up call for our once great nation, I don't really think anything else will do...other than the "nuke" Rumsfeld has been been promising to deliver....
Karma has reared it's ugly head for us in Amerika finally...& it remains to be seen just how far this disaster will go in getting our country back on track in being the best it can be, rather than the bully it has become!
see www.themoneymasters.com for more
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Has the trillionaire Bush Crime Family fortunes been beached? I doubt it....just blip for now.
New Orleans & Mississippi has taken a big hit & the lost of life staggering...if this isn't a wake up call for our once great nation, I don't really think anything else will do...other than the "nuke" Rumsfeld has been been promising to deliver....
Karma has reared it's ugly head for us in Amerika finally...& it remains to be seen just how far this disaster will go in getting our country back on track in being the best it can be, rather than the bully it has become!
see www.themoneymasters.com for more
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Republican = Abortion That Should Have Been!
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It's hypocritical of George to call uis traitors when Karl Rove, who outed an intelligence agent, putting America at risk against weapons of mass destruction, violating Section 18 US code 793 & 794 punishable by death is still working in the White House. There's your traitor, but I suspect that any one willing to kill Americans and is too chickenshit to kill the "Islamo-fascists" that scare them to death is probably a cowardly traitor as well. There's your Bush voter for you.
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Thanks...great post...
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Is Murkkka's Gestapo (the military) shooting indiscriminately into crowds down in N.O (and Iraq)? It's out there on the web... oh happy day to be a Dem! 100K deaths or bust! What's bad for Murkkka is good for the Dems!
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After the tsunami desaster the red cross checked up on the "Nigritos" living on the islands surrounding india, islands civilization had never crossed, after a bunch of spears were thrown at their helicopter, or demon god, they figured everyone was OK, and left it at that.
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while I may agree with the majority of this post.... how can you dub people racist when you use...."feasting on dead nigger"...yourself.Hypocrisy doesn't make a valid point.
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Yeah Anonymous. Right on! I was wicked tired of all that peace and prosperity from the last Democratic Adiministration.
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Jeremiah, before I ask you to go back to Russia..or Cuba for that matter...wait its North Korea isn't it? I'd like to start by asking you how the fuck you think you know what you are talking about?
Are you near New Orleans or the MS Coast?
Do you see the shit on all local channels 24/7 day in and day out? or are you just spewing bullshit from your little liberal news channels?
People were urged to hold a full evac yet one was not made...blame the lame ass (Democratic) leaders in LA who wanted to ride it out. The people suffered because of a total breakdown period. IF they wanted to get the people out, they would have. They should have had a system in place. Instead, mass chaos controls.
The constitution, that you liberals so often like to rape, establishes the separation of powers, yet when shit hits the fan, it all falls on the feds and the current president.
Better get going...otherwise you'll miss your date wihth Castro.
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what makes you liberal fucks think the same thing wouldn't happen if Kerry was in office.
It's statistically impossible for Kerry to hire anyone more imcompetent than President Cheney has (e.g., Browney, Chertoff, Rice, etc.).
Also, while we're playing that game, a President Gore would not, I think, have reacted to the August 6, 2001 PDB by going fishing.
So, thanks to assholes like you, we got 9-11 and shitty response to Hurricaine Katrina. But at least them fags aren't getting married.
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I am sad to say. But I am glad I can pass as white. There are poor, black and the sick dying right now. almost 7 days after the storm has passed.
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You speak the truth.
Its sad but true.
If Dubya had any decency he would commit suicide... Though there might be a line to spit on his coffin.
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the best thing about watching Bush in action from a reincarnation point of view is that with all the lifetimes we all have already been thru ~ from my point of view ~ is that just maybe we won't be inspired to follow his footsteps so thoroughly in future lifetimes.
there seems to be plenty of others, though, just praying to get their chance to do the wonders that Bush has done...
I can hardly wait for the next fool to save us from ourselves:>)huuuuuu
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seems about right
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Yeah you fucking cult nut cock eating fucks! WHEW! That felt good! Man, you got me ready to go kick some right wing ass! I'm thinking of what neighbors had a Bush sticker on their car! LMAO! Great post man!
Here is what the CULT NUTS ARE SAYING in forums.
Zoe. Comment posted 30-Aug-2005 @08:21pm:
It's natural selection, the dumb ones stay behind and die thus eliminitating themselves from the gene pool. I smell Darwin awards on the horizon.
By TJ. Comment posted 01-Sep-2005 @02:47pm:
What is this race bs? New Orleans is a predomiantly poor and black city, and they are claiming that the government is not helping bc we are racist. Because you are poor and didnt heed the news to get out you are stuck and we are trying to help. How are they bitching about it, it is better than nothing. In the past, natural disasters are population control. Its about survival of the fittest, maybe we just need to leave them all out there.
By wok. Comment posted 01-Sep-2005 @10:17pm:
Former President Clinton, who's been tapped to help with the relief efforts, has a lot of positive things to say about the efforts underway.
Good for him.
http://j-walkblog.com/index.php?...s/katrina_blog/
WHY DO I USE THE WORD CULT?
Adherents who become increasingly dependent on the movement for their view on reality;
Important decisions in the lives of the adherents are made by others;
Making sharp distinctions between us and them, divine and satanic, good and evil, etc. that are not open for discussion;
Leader who claim divine authority for their deeds and for their orders to their followers;
Leader and movements who are unequivocally focused on achieving a certain goal.
James R. Lewis
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yeah, Jesus started out as a cult, too...
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Lets make life worse for everyone, so at least we are all brought down on the same level.
When entire American cities get wiped out because Bush won't pay for the fucking levees, how much more "worse for everyone" can it get?
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Hey, give the guy a chance...he still has a few more years to get the job done....:>)
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Gee, thanks. That's kind of what I was thinking... only I'm too fucking enraged to form a complete sentence right now. I don't feel quite so alone now (I live in Jesus-nut-central-Colorado and have been screaming at my Bush loving neighbors all day). Now I have something to glue to the hood of their Hummers tonight. Thanks again.
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Here's a thought...why don't all of you sociopathic, emotionally retarded fascists who think that elderly people in wheel chairs just need a "little more self reliance" take a trip to north korea yourselves. Obviously you want a neo conservative world where everyone is just the same as you. This country is the greatest country in the world DESPITE YOU and I am tired of hearing the hypocritical,degenerate ideologies.
YOUR PRESIDENT, the so-called conservative, runs up a vast deficit, wastes billions on a war in a country we had militarily contained (just where is OSAMA again? maybe a carlyle group meeting?) and hired incompetent lackies to run FEMA. Just wait tho. Just like WW II, and the depression, it will be the people and the democrats who pull your sorry asses out of the fire AGAIN. I guess those damn "leftists" at the universities you all complain about must have been pretty radical coming up with all those complicated simulations that predicted this storm years ago. And thank you so much to the idiotic Limbaugh and friends who jammed up the airwaves with vicious bilge when they could have used air time to help communicate vital information to the citizens of the Gulf Region. AMERICA is for Americans,and AMERICA IS COMPASSION.
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maybe Bush is the true "antichrist" we all been waiting so desperately for...:>)
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Bush = Chauncy Gardener. YES!!! I knew there was something about Bush that was familiar. I'll have to watch Being There again tonight.
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Man that was shrill Steve.
I loved every fucking word, syllable, letter, and punctuation mark of it.
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I stand humbled. Simply beautiful!!
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Chief Justice Rehnquist has died suddenly.
Your worst fears have come true, lefties.
BUSH GETS TWO ON THE COURT!!!!!
Tremble with fear.
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Bin Laden wants to destroy the United States, while Dubya IS destroying the United States.
They both have close ties with the Saudis.
Can someone please explain to me the DIFFERENCE between the two?
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DAMN RIGHT...NOW LETS TAKE THE COUNTRY BACK AND THROW THE CRIMINALS IN JAIL...GITMO FOR THE LOT OF THEM!
2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 20062006 OR TAKE TO THE STREETS CIRCA 69!
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The judge was a good man. Thankfully, we have the right man in office to replace him.
Goodbye, Roe v Wade.
Goodbye and good riddance.
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From Baton Rouge: RIGHT ON!!!!
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Steve---
Why the kid gloves?
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Damn fucking straight...
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It's been interesting reading all of these comments. I applaud you, Steve. Well written, vulgar language aside.
For you Republicans that read this, and feel that your two cents make a difference...don't waste your typing. It doesn't take sites like this, and bloggers to wake up and smell the coffee in America. People all across the USoA are seeing this travesty in NO, and they are plain disgusted. They're asking "why?" and there are no good answers as to why. There will be plenty of time to see who's at blame, and every echelon from top to bottom will be examined, as it rightly should. I can tell you this...The America I grew up in was NOT this divided. Yes, every block had its grumpy old man telling us to get off his yard, but when tragedy struck, every neighbor was there to lend a hand, take them into their homes, make meals, etc. I long for the days when we get back to this, and hopefully in my lifetime, it will. What I fear most, is that that will NOT occur anytime soon. I have three children, and I fear most, that they will NEVER know what America was really built on. I hope I'm wrong, but guess I will not know this for many many years, or possibly decades, to come. It makes me sick to my stomach to see these poor children stuck w/out food and water in NO, and other surrounding states. I have already informed my local republican senators and put them on notice. I ALSO emailed Howard Dean and the DNC. Where is the leadership this country needs NOW??
oh yea, they're coming back. Bush #2 asked Bill Clinton to help, and now FEMA has the former head coming back to help..yanno...Mr Witt..as for the clueless
Josh..hun..get some physciatric help, hun. Otherwise, move to the Mountains, and buy lots of guns to protect your young dumb idealistic view of reality.
Pissed off, your comment on the two young women REALLY needing showers after hugging Bush was classic. Hope you don't mind me using that again.
Funny, the republicans that come in stating how the "blacks are raping" is a surprise to them. Hell, most of us working poor have felt the same way about the current administration for years. Guess if your not the Elite, rich "folk", then you are left to your own devices. Sad to think that the "compassionate conservatives" really never listened to their preachers when they were told "Do unto others as you would have done unto you". I'm not a religious person by any stretch of means, but I do know what is morally right and wrong. HUMANITY should be the only words on anyones lips now...plain and simple, but I guess thats only for the working slob that doesn't get five weeks vacation in a YEAR, let alone a lifetime.
Again, Steve, ty for a wonderfully written piece...I have sent it to all my contacts..will be back many times in the future..
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Crap, there is no way I could have said it any better myself and maybe not as well. There is no way that I see,at this point, that Bush can pull off any more lies, deceit, or anything else I may have missed. His cabal's masks are OFF! All the idiots that blindly waved their flags, madly cheered "4 more years", how do those fools feel now? hehe! I am just one more voice out here in cyberspace that has been keeping up on all that's been going on. I never voted for Bush and I am GLAD I didn't.
God have mercy on every one of those poor, miserable souls trapped there. Hungry,dehydrating,sick,filthy,dazed,
scared, etc. I can promise you the rich, greedy fatcats won't. I'm ashamed to be an American at this point. WELCOME TO AMERIKKA!
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Hell-Yeah, Well said!
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I'm probably twice as old as everyone here, but I feel right at home! the language shocked me for the 1st four paragraphs, but I got over it.
Steve, where've you been all my life?? this is my 1st visit here and your laser brain is just too funny as you write about this ugly situation in the white house.
have you heard about carnival cruise lines providing 3 ships to the victims to live? Yeah, each liner holds 7,000 people. don't know for how long. those people don't need a cruise...they need housing, food, jobs and education. wrong message to send. probably another bush PR stunt. but i don't think he can buy his way out of the hole he's dug, this time.
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HA, anonymous, you could be so lucky to be brought "down" to the same level as the real humans in this blog, you sack of shit.
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Damn right.
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Scary thing is..what if this was a terrorist attack. Weren't they suppossed to fix "communications" for future terrorist events so as NOT to have the problems they had on 9/11?? Am I the only one that has seen this as a serious issue? People, we have an administration that has put us MORE at threat of a more serious threat for terrorist attacks, and we're screwed if it should come to fruition. God Bless us all....
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People, the thing is, Bush just doesn't care. Why should he? He's not up for re-election... BUT... Congress is.
If he makes THEM look bad enough, then they will DEFINITELY make a move to save their asses.
That's how you play this game. Ambition checks ambition.
For example, after reading Pat Buchanan's article calling on Congress to impeach Bush for not securing our borders against Illegal Immigrants, I sent a letter to Tom Tancredo (head of the Immigration Reform Caucus) and Ron Paul (the only Libertarian in Congress). My hope is they can get their 90 supporters together to begin motions towards an impeachment.
THAT is what we have to do. Find the chinks in the armor of the ruling party and exploit it. Those people in Congress want to be re-elected. If you can pin Bush's failures on them hard enough, they will distance themselves from his actions and hopefully go so far as to impeach him.
Keep the pressure on Congress, and not the President (who couldn't give two shits about anyone anymore, not even his current supporters). Eventually we will fry this turkey in an impeachment and conviction.
Good Luck!
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Don't toy with us, how do you really feel?
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i hope you understand that most of us republicans have already moved on...the people in NO will get their help and all will be fine...so it was a lil late...so what?...they'll get ovet it...its now football season so it back to life as we know it for us normal people....
get over it
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patriot, that figures. many republicans are sociopaths and are incapable of having either empathy or sympathy for others who are suffering. Enjoy your football, while we enjoy relationships with human beings.
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Hey, Patriot - you're a scumbag.
Steve - you have put into words my anger. I thank you for this blog post!
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This post is proof that anger is healthy.....I've had the same rage in me for quite a while.
Great post...I'm going to link this some places.
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what an enormous retard you are. worst blog ever.
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I think what James Phan made a typo. What he meant to say, was:
what an enormous retard Bush is. worst president ever.
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renato,
you're giving Bush too much credit!
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I express my feelings and views best in songs, esp. parodies. Like them or lump it.
Worthless Lies parody of Lying Eyes by The Eagles
Texas boys just seem to find out early
Getting government jobs means telling lies
Killing convicts, throwing lavish parties
Getting high, and soused right to the eyes.
Rigged elections, bumbling presentations
Home by eight with pretzels and his beer
Bang! He blew away that good for nothing pretzel
That made him fall from from his chair down on his rear
Chorus: You can't hide your
worthless lies
And your big...
grin's a thin disgui
I thought by now you'd
realize
Americans don't believe your
worthless lies
Now he goes on tours makes his famous speeches
"Stay the course, or Iraq will bring us down"
Puts on his cowboy hat then into his limo
Blows past Cindy tearing out of town
He wonders how it ever got this crazy
Events were supposed to be set up carefully
Ain't it sad how making President didn't change things
You're still the same old drunk you used to be
You can't hide your worthless lies
And your big... grin's a thin
disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
Americans don't believe your
worthless lies
Americans don't believe your
worthless lies
Dubya...you can't hide your
worthless lies
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Hey, James Phan - you're obviously a 15 year old troll. "bout time you got to bed. Kinda late for children to be up.
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America. Fuck yeah.
EconAtheist aka Duc Dork |
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09.04.05 - 1:19 am | #
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Parody # 2 on its way.
"Star Spangled Banner" Based on the performance by Francis Scott Key
"USA Today" Parody by Carol
Oh say can you see
Georgie Bush's sad plight
He lied 'bout Iraq
Now he's catching big flak
USA used to be
Land of brave and the free
Now it's only the land
Of the crave and the spree
Brutal torture's condoned
While rich thugs steal our homes
And the Patriot Act
Is a cold ugly fact
Our economy is wrecked
The disabled we gladly kill
Lady Justice is dead
We have lost our free will
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Amen
The Fat Lady Sings |
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Agreed with everything except the phrase "the alligators are feasting on dead nigger and there isn't an Iraqi in sight". Otherwise, you hit the nail on the head. Is it against the law to say that I pray for Air Force One to crash and for Bush to be one of its casualties?
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This sharply critical parody is to every kool-aid drinking flag waving, glassy eyed idiot who chanted "4 more years" and were stupid enough to rush to the voting booths to re-select that monkey called Chimpy!
Rogers & Hammerstein In My Own Little Corner(Cinderella)
In My Poor Little Corner
I'm so smart..think I know more than you
I can write better parodies too
Don't know why I feel so sad and blue
And I just don't know... what I should do
In my poor little corner in my sad broken mind
I can cherry pick what I want to believe
I don't dare even criticize The holy government
Or a Taser shock or two I might receive
I must listen to the mighty god called TV
Think for myself? Oh no that cannot be!
'Cause if I dared to step outside my mental prison
The blinders would come off, my mind be free(not me!)
So I'll watch CBS and the corporate media
You won't join me? Jedi pooo dooo!
I'll sit back and watch
thru my rosy colored glasses...
Gosh I feel so sorry for you!
You are anti American ya bashed Bush today
Don't you dare! Better stay out of my way.
Pro..tests and dissent are no longer allowed
Stay away from that anti Bush crowd
You are driving me insane with free thinking
Shut..up, take your drugs, be just like me
Have a beer, smoke a joint, be a sheeple
Do what Cheney says he he he he he!
Oh for heaven's sake won't you leave that Internet alone!
Don't be an irritating or a stumbling stone
Stop the chatter, please put on your rosy colored glasses
In the corner of your own little home
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Ronald,
It depends. We have previously known it as "free speech," but under the current administration (and with two Supreme Court vacancies) it is now in quesyion as to whether or not free speech exists anymore.
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Whoa, you said what rages inside of me daily!, loved it!
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Michael Brown of Fema is really "Super Dave Osbourne".
Man he sound exactly like him..
Fema is being headed up by Super Dave. Thanks George.
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09.04.05 - 1:26 am | #
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Best.
Rant.
Ever.
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You murdered that rant man, respect, thanks for the fiyah, and big-up's to Crooks and Liars for sending me to it.
As a work of pure honest truth, you've defined Bush for what he is:
An asshole.
It's the dawn:
Of the neo-con...
Spawn:
Of a hellish-bond...
Church, state, and biz:
Nazi-kids, of an older-God...
That's:
Why we in the streets!!!
That's:
Why we ridin' beats!!!
'Cause-
Next these motherfuckers-
Takin':
Rosa Parks seat!!!
Peace, (NOW!!!)
BK
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While I agree with Steve wholeheartedly, I really don't like all the petty name-calling and low blows that some people are using with there fellow bloggers. PLease direct your anger and use it reasonably. I know that is hard in the face of all this incompetence and subsequent anger, but pleeease try to refrain!
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thanks, that needed saying.
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News Blog! (Steve Gilliard) you are so my hero!
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what I hear in your rant is a clue I feel is very important: If you voted for W, you voted for the outcome of Katrina...those who voted against him twice knew it, and we told you. The responsibility is with you, the W voters, the "Greediest Generation", who believe that taxes are bad, who believe that government is not the solution but the problem. Some of us have known since Nixon and Reagan that these ideas were immoral, but they proved irresistable to the most weak minded Americans.
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Simply put, Dubya voters are evil
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Rehnquist's death gives Emperor Bush something new to talk about ~ God, he must be bored about this problem in New Orleans:>)
Lee |
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sabrina, if your delicate sensibilities are offended by a few exquisitely chosen words, go read harry potter.
word, steven.
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If I wasn't sitting at the terminal right now I'd set my hair on fire!
From north of the 49th, the last 5 years have been the worst horror show of train-wreck politics my country could ever imagine. But wait, it does get worse!
My heart aches to read and hear of the suffering being administered on you by the most Un-American president and supporting cast your country has ever seen.
What a pity.
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FUCK YA!
How many dead Americans does this presidency need at the altar of the slogan "I'm a uniter not a divider"?
F.U.C.K. Y.O.U. G.W.B.
I know! More tax cuts, I'm sure thats the answer!
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disgusted w W,
yes, this was a terrorist attack. bombing iraq and polluting the environment is the same thing.
but,
my flags tell me they could have pushed the "change the weather" button and/or blown up the levee to time it with the eye of the storm...
yes, we now have the capability to manipulate the weather...
living in a warped horror film sucks!
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I know some of you may call me a coward for saying that, but make no mistake--I am definitely a fighter. I just do things a little differently--use my brains to come up with solutions and solve problems and my heart to guide me, instead of just using words as my weapons. I have just found that harsh words, in the end, can never be the final, complete answer to a problem.
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And I do read Harry Potter, bkny. God, even he'd be a better president than Dubya.
But he can't. If he were real, he'd be a British citizen, and unable to assume the Presidency.
What a damn shame.
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Perhaps being stronger with my words wouldn't be so bad. ::wink::
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210,000 National Guard in Iraq ~ with 120,000 left in America....Don't you all just love that man....
Lee |
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I used to get dreams with GW because my dad grew up with Bob Dole...but lately GW hasn't shown up to gloat in my dreams...maybe he is getting tired & needs another vacation...do you think?:>)
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Wow, Steve. That post's a keeper.
Time for Bush and his supporters to SUCK IT UP in every way. $5/gallon gas is only the beginning.
BTW ... One of the attendees at EschaCon was in the airport yesterday. Stuck up a conversation w/a woman behind her. Woman said, "Those people in New Orleans stayed because they get their government checks on Friday." Translation: the crazed negroes that sit on their asses and suck our tax dollars got what was coming to them.
I hope that bitch lives in Atlanta, where gas is $5/gallon.
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Wow. You get this man's "Fastest Bookmark Ever." Took me about five sentences. Rarely have I seen such such a lucid profanity laced blast.
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Man, I couldn't even get you guys to call me a "fucktard neocon Bush cum-gurgling troll" with my post from earlier today. I guess you have no comeback to hard truths? Let me repost:
Typical thumbsuckng democrat fare, but with more than your usual vulgarity. I guess when you have no logical argument, just fall back on cursing!
Bush pre-declared N.O. a disaster area, he told Blanco to make the evacuation mandatory. Why the hell did Nagin think putting people in the Superdome with no food or water would be a good idea? How about those 230 school buses sitting in six feet of water? Gee, you think Nagin could've used those? Do you think a city that sits below sea level would have a disater plan? I guess their plan was "let the good times roll, then call the feds." There was an incredible amount of resources already on the ground by Wednesday. It took nine days to get the relief effort rolling after Andrew. Just because the news teams can get there and start bitching doesn't mean that giant supply convoys can get there that fast. Democrats usng this tragedy for political gain disgust me.
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Whenever The Shrub speaks, he moves his jaw sideways. A wiggle that is a telltale sign he is pissed and doesn't want to be where he is.
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Wow. Just wonderful. Wonderful...
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Jeff Brown seems to be lost in the clouds of Bush's Shrine/legacy of 2 stolen elections & wants us to be nice...okay, be nice!:>)
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Outstanding Rant!
You hit a nerve....you got the Beta-Monkeys throwing their poop to show their kneejerk alleigence to the Alpha-Monkey.
To all the BM's on the thread-
How's that "War on Terror" doing? Gee, looks like the boy-king/War President has himself in a jam now. I mean, how terror-fied can you get when a natural disaster can waste 10's of thousands of sq. miles and cause a $100BB in damage? Makes that $300BB we've wasted chasing the Al-Qaeda boogeyman around Iraq look like a pretty stupid waste of our blood, time, and money no? Think of what we could have done to our infrastructure with that money....not to mention the jobs and ripple that would have had on our economy. Think about that when you are filling up that tank with $3.50/gallon gas.
So Bush went long on war-profiteering and short on our domestic infrastructure....hey, I'll bet when he was redlining that $300MM or so for New Orleans flood control, he was thinkin' what hard work it was pResidentin' That little fuck-up, alone, cost us $30 BILLION DOLLARS and hundreds of dead Americans. And that is only the insurance costs. You ought to wonder what else got redlined and when the bill will come due on that. Think about those grade 1 bolts that haven't been replaced on the next bridge your driving on.
Here's a hint: no one's buying the Blanco/Nagin blame game. Bush hires a political syncophant with no experience to run FEMA....unless you count being an assistant city manager as experience. I'm not surprised...are you? NO had a 3 day headstart to evacuate a million people and once Katrina hit, there wasn't anything any mayor or governor could do. It was the federal government that was AWOL, just like Dimson. FEMA should have been prepared. No one knew until Sunday exactly where it was going to hit...but FEMA was caught with it's pants off.
The joke's on you folks. While the Alpha Monkey struts his stuff saying "Mission Accomplished", he's got you eating his shit and thinking it's candy. We might have to co-exist in the same cage, but we take a small consolation in knowing our breath dosen't stink.
Happy eating!
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Just don't rant...start working to get this War Criminal impeached. Start with your Senators...even mine (Clintonbagger & Warmonger) have to listen if enough yell at 'em.
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Bush wiped out an economy, but Cliton had an affair ... I perceive a disconnect somewhere. I'll let you know if (not when) a right-winger finally points it out to me.
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"It was pitiful...I almost felt sorry for him, until I heard someone call him 'Mr. President,' and then I felt ashamed." --Hunter S. Thompson, on Bush's 2004 debate performance (Read more Hunter S. Thompson quotes)
"He knew who I was, at that time, because I had a reputation as a writer. I knew he was part of the Bush dynasty. But he was nothing, he offered nothing, and he promised nothing. He had no humor. He was insignificant in every way and consequently I didn't pay much attention to him. But when he passed out in my bathtub, then I noticed him. I'd been in another room, talking to the bright people. I had to have him taken away." --Hunter S. Thompson, on meeting George W. Bush at Thompson's Super Bowl party in Houston in 1974
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HELL YEAH. Reich wingers are just pissed off that more and more everyday people are seeing the evil that is bush and his minions. Their idiot fucked up so badly this time there's no hiding it, no disguising it, no glossing it over. That motherfucker was eating cake and attempting to play a guitar while AMERICANS WERE DYING. Souless motherfucking bastard.
Listen up bushvoting fuckers: people will only put up with souless, heartless bastards fucking things up for so long before they stand up and start speaking truth to power.
So go crawl under the rocks you came out from.
Steve: BEST RANT EVER. If you are ever in Houston, drinks are on me.
Oh and also you bushvoting assholes: what have YOU done to help these people? I'm putting them up in my home and gathering up every bit of clothing and supplies I can for them. I've given blood and so much money all I can buy now until I get paid is gas and groceries, but I don't care because we are supposed to HELP ONE ANOTHER.
"For whatsoever you do to the least among you, you do also to me." JESUS
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And Bush loves Jesus, don't he?:>)
Lee |
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And Bush loves Jesus, don't he?:>)
Lee |
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Word.
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Bravo for this write up. I totally agree , how sdo these Bush lover sleep at night? And is Monica Crowley REALLY on vacation or just another whimp?! Have you seen the news paper headkines around the world?
If this fool comes out smelling liek a rose on this one...I am moving to another county- I can't take this anymore.
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Bush viewed the destruction from a Boeing 747? Words fail me.
Great rant Steve, well done.
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I love you for speaking straight and true.
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I really LOVED the part about "Say 9/11 changed everything now, motherfuckers. Ooops, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11. Doesn't work Anymore?" THAT NEEDED TO BE SAID!!! I will be visiting this site again.
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brilliant....thank u.
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Here here!
people need to take politics into their own hands and get the politicians away from running things.
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► ACTION ALERT
Conservatives are trying to censor a legit story about Bush's photo op at WIKINEWS!
ARE YOU PISSED OFF? You can go here to edit the talk page and show that you want this story UP!!!
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/
Talk...Staged_Photo_Op
Don't get mad, get even.
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omg
that was the best rant ive read ever
this has gotta be posted on michael moores site
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Great rant!
Just want to ask all the Repub. trolls posting here - how many of you chichenshit fucks have served in the military, let alone served in combat? I spent all of 2004 serving in east Baghdad in a Reserve Civil Affairs unit, for a war (and a POTUS) I don't even believe in. What the fuck is your problem, aside from being pathetic cowards? How do you live with yourselves? (other than not having a sense of honor, or shame?)
Unfortunately, I have to agree with those here who have said that "there will be no 'awakening'.." Praise the Lord and pass the ammo...
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Bush is a Born Again Christian!
But he came out the Wrong Hole.
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You and Anderson Cooper should go bowling together. And I mean that as a compliment.
Nail. Head. Hit. Bam.
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You are so fucking right, man! The best rant I've ever read.
Get rid of this idiot please!!! He himself is a natural disaster.
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This is what I wrote earlier this evening:
I used to live in a country that worked. It was called America. Now I live in a country where excuses are the norm, where incompetence is excused or awarded. It is also called America but it is an impostor.
The Can Do spirit has been replaced by a What Do You Want Me To Do About This? Attitude. Rolling up one’s sleeves has been replaced by covering one’s ass.
While there were many reasons to disagree with Bill Clinton, the fact is that no one doubted the man’s intelligence. The impostor America has replaced a Rhodes scholar president with a C student.
The Real America that used to exist may have stumbled and fell on the road to equality among its citizens, but the pretender that has taken its place doesn’t even pretend to value equality. “Every man for himself” has replaced “We’re all in this together”. The law of the jungle has replaced the law of the land. The looting we saw in New Orleans (other than for the means of survival) was wrong, but not hard to understand when our current government has made it clear that social Darwinism is the order of the day.
There have always been people in America who believe that we should only take care of Americans and not worry about foreigners in distress. What no one disputed, however, was that America had the ability to do both if it wanted to. In today’s imitation America, many question whether we can even assist our own citizens in times of need.
The government of the impostor America, through its indifference and incompetence, has managed to do what no terrorist group could ever do: cause millions of American citizens to lose faith that our country can live up to its reputation. The attacks of 9/11 caused Americans, right or wrong, to rally behind their government. The callous indifference of our “leaders” to the suffering of those in the Gulf states, exemplified by a Secretary of State who saw nothing wrong with shopping for designer shoes while thousands of Americans were dying in a flood, has opened the eyes of millions of citizens to the vacuum in our “leadership.”
You ask me if I love my country and I’ll look you in the eye and answer: I love the America I was brought up to believe in, an America that cared about its people and thought it could achieve great things. I do not, cannot, and will not love the sick, sad impostor that has taken her place.
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How long are Americans going to put up with this? This is ridiculous...how fcuking much longer will people accept this kind of anti-social, uncivilized, misanthropic, pyschopathic, anti-government government? This is just not funny anymore, if it ever was (Hear that Mr. Asshole Bill Maher, it's NOT funny anymore!) This is a serious business, but too many Americans are like stupid, gullible children who are willing to put up with anything as long as they can get their hands on cellphones, SUV's and wide-screen TV's. When are Ameicans going to get serious, say that this is simply "unacceptable", and throw all the bums out? How much longer, America? Jeezus Fcuking Christ, let's serious and get real. The USA is getting worse than Colombia...Hellhole del Norte.
How long will human beings put up with this?
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It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight. It's time to fight...
IT IS TIME... TO FIGHT
Bring down this evil admin by any means necessary.
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5,500 miles aross the pond most of us have known what a dickhead that Dubya is for years.Can you imagine what would've happend if Tony BLIAR hadn't been around to influence him.The stupid gonk would've nuked the whole planet.We aren't American haters over here but we just can't work out how anyone could've voted for that peanut faced prick.Long Live the people of NOLA...
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Ah, well, the American public will forget this, also, and vote in another whore in 2008. If the country is still here...
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"Thousands Await Help, While Feds Shift Blame
Bush administration officials blame state and local authorities for failure of the country's response."
Washington Post this morining
The blaming has begum and after these incompetent politicians have finished blaming each other, nothing will be done....business like usual. that's politics in a nut shell. I wish these people ill.
Keep up the spirit, Steve
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we know where chimpy is but...where is the puppeteer cheney during all of this...
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Hear, hear!
=my2c
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tell it like it is, brother!!
god bless the truth...
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You people are a sorry ass bunch of apologists. You bitch and whine about your president, yet don't offer any alternatives to the problem, so in effect, you're as bad as he is.
Get your heads out of the sand
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each and everyone of you idiots should be deported.
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IMPEACH 'EM ALL! Let God sort it out.
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John Jacobs, if you deport us all who will be left to deliver your mail?
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Wow. I come from reading a bunch of hate-filled right-wing b.s. on right-wing weblogs excusing bush to here to read a bunch of hate-filled left-wing b.s. on a left-wing weblog. and it seems to be the shared sentiment on the other left-wing weblogs.
good god, at this rate, you left-wing fuckers and the right-wing fuckers are going to end up killing us all.
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The current administration is the quintessential product of the rats that rose from the sewer in the wake of the JFK assassination. Indeed, JFK was terminated by a shot fired from the storm drain in Dealy Plaza. Nineteen Hundred and Sixty Three was then the beginning of the end of America as we know it. The rats then rose to power by brute force, slowly, but surely, eliminating one Kennedy after another to ensure that Americans remained sufficiently quarantined from any prophet of the people. Remember America. Understand the meaning of why an eternal flame was placed on your brother’s grave. Wake up America. He is calling you now. United you have the power to flush them back from whence they came. Force them to recede along with the waters of New Orleans. Make this the great drying out.
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This is an excellent call to arms.
Bush isn't just guilty of indifference.
The Bush administration was willing to just let one of the centers of African American culture die.
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I had to stop talking to conservatives. I actually had one person tell me that Fox News was her favorite TV show. Yeah, if you like crappy fiction. How can people be so blind and stupid? Well, the blinders are coming off now. There is no way Scotty can spin this mess. Bush is a dumbass that cares about no one. He struts around like a peacock yelling "I am a war president...9/11, 9/11, 9/11!
He makes me want to puke.
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This blog, and these pitiful excuses of reason are a perfect example of incompetence at its best.
Pawns of the system, believe everything, point the finger ALWAYS. You want a communist nation.
HAlf of you son of a bitches are just couch potatoes reading the news or watching it via your fav liberal news station. How many of you are actually DOWN HERE and know what the fuck is really going on?
You people are sad. You should be deported to start your own little fairy tale world of equality where minorities will rain supreme and wipe your sorry ass off the planet.
You have no concept of reality and are totally blinding by some bleeding heart ideal eutopia. You blame an administration for things you know nothing about. You are easily swayed by the propoganda and shit spewed on TV. You actually think demoracts are poor and disadvantaged. Ever you ever sat down to proven facts, you'd realize the wel-face system is a joke, yet you want to further it more. TAX TAX TAX. Please, tax the fuck out of the hard workers and let the poor have 15 kidsrs and milk the system. Oh, but they can't work! What the fuck happend to holding people accountible for their life decisions? NAh lets lend a hand and dispromote any sense of unity and work.
Your democratic officials in LA failed you. Why didn't they make all of the black people evactuate? Why didn't they heed the engineers warning the levee could fail and that they should fully evacuate? Why did they rush them all into a building like sardines and have no plan for supporting them therein? What the fuck do you expect when you do something like that and chaos assumes? 15,000 helicopters in the sky each zeroing in on a specific dumbass who wanted to ride out the storm? Or, better yet, miracle wagons with medicine of the type exactly needed by those in the dome. 1 day removed from the bullshit you expected a full assessment and things to be better....
What you are seeing is sad, and its tragic, but could have been avoided. If anyone is to blame it is everyone, included those who stayed, and who left late causing traffic jams restricting others from leaving. The mentality, "surely it won't happen to us" totally fucked them over. People stayed to get their welfare check instead of evacuating. The city's transporation system and school buses weren't used to evacuate people. Why didn't people bring their medicine and shit with them in the dome? there may be a valid reason, but probably isn't.
Lastly, and I'll end this quick so you can go ahead and begin your tirade. Do you honestly think any administration would have been able to be there and solve every problem within 1 day? 2 days? Do you realize the logistics involved? They didn't even know the seriousness until it was already...bad...
But, run along, continue watching you bs news networks who like to show you the sob stories yet offer mystically easy solutions to fuel your anarchist anger.
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Hey now, calm down: He DID say that he would make sure that Trent Lott's house was rebuilt with a really nice front porch! See, he's all over this situation. It's HARD WORK!
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I refer to: "We told you so" - http://stevegilliard.blogspot.co...old-you-
so.html.
Well said! Thank you for speaking what is on the mind of the majority of people, not only in the USA, but around the world!
It is high time for decent, peace and justice loving people to stand up and speak out against these warmongers and thieves who steal government wealth and wage illegal wars against innocent people of the world to steal their oil and natural resources.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm disgusted by this administration and the way it's "handled" this disaster. And now that Rehnquist has died, that asshole gets to stack the Supreme Court with another Bible-thumping fascist fuck. Great.
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Dear Anonymous moron:
Do you mean to tell me that the FEDERAL FUCKING GOVERNMENT OF THE GODDAMN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CAN'T AIRLIFT WATER TO NEW ORLEANS IN FOUR FUCKING DAYS? And that's ok? That's the fault of Democrats? Huh?
Fuck you.
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this is the best post i've read in a long long time. thank you for saying it.
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Share the TRUTH WITH EVERYONE. Help Americans pull their Goddamn heads out of theirs or Bush's ass.
Debunk the propaganda. Share this post with EVERYONE! Also, DEMAND VERIFIABLE VOTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU STEVE.
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Everytime I read this excellent tirade, I get a chuckle.
Then the reality of New Orleans hits home, and I feel a rage building.
This disaster did not have to drag out to this sort of conclusion.
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thank you, steve.
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09.04.05 - 11:09 am | #
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thank you. There a few of us in other places who saw through the masks. Now, we watch in horror as American citizens die of thirst.
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09.04.05 - 11:19 am | #
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FUCK YEAH!
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The saddest part of this is that the regions hit by the hurricane were all regions that voted primarily for Bush.
If anyone cares to see this, I posted a little rant of my own. Please read it, and pass it on.
Bush-bashing from an American Soldier:
http://www.livejournal.com/users...ijan/
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Chertoff said this morning to Tim Russert that he had no idea the levees were going to breach because he woke up on Tuesday and the NEWSPAPER HEADLINES said "it wasn't as bad as we thought."
In otherwords, if it's not in the newspapers, how can he be blamed for not knowing?
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....it is sad that even when showing tremendous support, we are still referred to as 'dead nigger'. Your rhetoric shows clearly how someone like Bush got elected in the first place... and then re-elected.
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I like the people who say "we shouldn't politicise this", which is code for lets give Bush a pass on this.
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The time is ripe for Revolution, but even a beheading or lynching would be too good for King George.
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Bush is what you get when the Supreme Court picks the President. Now the President picks the Supreme Court. Rhenquist died 6 years too late.
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To quote a dixie chick. I am not proud that George Bush is from Texas
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09.04.05 - 12:29 pm | #
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So true. So fucking true. America is going down real fast, and nobody even notices.
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George and the republican party, need KATRINA to whip there miserable asses charting a new direction for 2006... Keep posted, this is a developing story.
Addison
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Very good. Maybe if you had the maturity to get rid of the gratuitous profanity more people would listen to you...When write like "trailer trash", fewer people will give you any credence. ...hope you don't eat with the same mouth.
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Telling like it is man. Kudos to you.
Makes me feel really good to be up in Canada.
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Left wing people and communists are not traitors, you fucking right wing fundamentalist idiots. YOU are the fucking traitors of MY country. I live in France, thank God for that. Thank God for Europe for providing a place to flee to, away from fascists, hilbillies and reborn christians.
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Hurricane Katrina was God's doing. George Bush is not God.
People need to grow up and stop blaming someone else for thier actions. These people decided to stay. Sure they were poor, but my family was also poor and if our lives would have been in danger and we were warned about it...I guarantee you my Dad would have sold anything to have the money to remove us from danger.
Maybe if Ted Kennedy and his friends would not have been protesting the oil drilling in Alaska that George Bush wanted to being six months ago...our gas price increases would not have last as long as they are going to last.
Now may I add the following:
Subject: Removal of world refugees from the United States.
Now is the time for the United States to approach the United Nations about the need for the removal of world refugees from the United States. The need for this immediate action is required because the United States now has refugees that need the help of this government. Removal of world refugees from the United States should start immediately with the help of the United Nations; And the United Nations should seek other countries in which to shelter the World Refugees now in the United States.
All the Government housing in the United States should at the present be available for the American Refugees from New Orleans not the World Refugees. Lets not forget the jobs that are provided to the World Refugees; these jobs should be given to the refugees from New Orleans.
This is the opinion of a North West Houston housewife. Will all the American people out there, help me make my voice be heard?
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George Bush needs to share a cell with Slobodan Milošević. Rumsfeld needs to be assasinated like Arkan.
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Steve,
Absolutely.
And Sadie, what, exactly, would those folks in NO have sold for money to get out of town, and to whom would they have sold it? These folks have nothing much anyone wants, at any price.
How many “world refugees” do you think are taking jobs? This is just plain delusional; are you also one of those idiots that thinks we can balance the federal budget by cutting foreign aid?
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Bravo Sadie. It's nice to see that someone still has some common sense left.
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What will it take to finally make the right give up their grip on this country?
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BBC reporter, Matt Wells, had insightful post. In part:
"The uneasy paradox which so many live with in this country [USA] - of being first-and-foremost rugged individuals, out to plunder what they can and paying as little tax as they can get away with, while at the same time believing that America is a robust, model society - has reached a crisis point this week."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...cas/
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I enjoyed your post as a rant. Naturally, it's not the only form of expression to be employed as we build resistance to the maniacal Neo-Con Cabal Coup.
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wow. the original post had heart, and inspired me to cheer; though without any amusement. the reply commentaries inspire uproarious laughter and bronx cheers at best.
i invite each poster to examine the premises of the complaints put forth and really see, meaning (accurately assess) the conceptual workings behind the systems of thought and politics which each you seem to regard as good without question. the sorry truth is: george bush jr., pres 43, is an INEVITABLE result of your acceptance of some of your most ingrained social ethics. particularly those which determine whether any man has the right or authority to direct the actions of another man. true, the original post had heart, but unfortunately it was not fully reasoned and therefore, had only half a brain. it merits good comment because, unlike so many other opinions, it indeed does have half that said brain. -and that's rare enough. think about it and be well,
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Wow!
And you want to call us friends?
You need to calm the fuck down before you get your ass whupped, you little liberal pansy FUCK.
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Sadie - is your husband, or any of your kids serving in the military? If not, why are you willing to let other people risk their lives for a BS war that your family is apparently too cowardly to fight for?
To any of the RW idiots posting here - are any of you at least serving in a PD or FD somewhere? Doubt it. I've worked on a variety of response teams (HazMat, MMST, USAR), and the criticisms are all valid (of both the state AND federal officials). Why don't YOU get off your couch potato ass and go help? I'm heading down there with my Reserve unit in about a week (so we've been told)...
I don't know if/when a revolution will come, and I'm not calling for one here (though I can't say it's a completely bad idea). But if it does, keep in mind which of your neighbors supported this administration, or subsequent administartions like it, and hold them accountable.
Let's hope the evangelicals are right, and God really is watching out for us... yeah, right.
Loki |
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09.04.05 - 1:37 pm | #
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Impeach?? Try jailed for WAR CRIMES!!
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09.04.05 - 1:44 pm | #
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At least we still have Lou Dobbs who is not afraid to speak the TRUTH!
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Definately assasination time...
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Steve,
As a fellow New Yorker, I'd like to shake your hand.
I could have done without all the profanity, but other than that you are spot on.
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aaaah that was so fucking good.
THANK YOU!
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09.04.05 - 1:55 pm | #
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This resonates.
I e-mailed it to president@whitehouse.gov. Jam his mailbox.
Oh, this one, too:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/webmail (For SPECIFIC issues, You know they've got some lower end maggot having to plow through all of these. Maybe we can make it crazy enough to go postal)
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Lord, you've hit smack on the head why I've been so depressed and angry these past five years. However, I agree with those who predict nothing happening. This country has already gone by the wayside. "Beacon of hope"? I don't think so....
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I can't pretend to know everything about this situation, and so I'll not lay blame completely at the feet of Dubya. As a New Yorker, I probably despise Bush as much as Steve does, but I don't want to assign guilt when I don't really know all the facts. It seems there is plenty of guilt to go around, to be sure.
What I do think, however, is that those here defending Bush/attacking the Dem. Mayor & Gov, are missing Steve's point: Bush appears smug, detached, and bewildered, whether or not he truly is. From what I can see, that is the reason people like David Brooks, a staunch Bush supporter, are questioning his resolve. When Bush remarks that he's excited about sitting on the newly-rebuilt porch of Trent Lott's house, his attempt at humor seems callous and just plain stupid. You needn't be a left wing commie to find a remark like that offensive.
But then, public speaking has never been Dubya's strong point, has it?
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The real tragedy in all this is now all those people who pulled out of Gaza might have to wait for their $200,000-$300,000. Each. Yes, let's dismantle the welfare state but keep sending Israel $3 billion+ annually, because we don't need to support Americans who can't find a decent job because NAFTA and CAFTA have sent them all south of the border, but we have to support genocidal maniacs like Sharon because the UN vilolating motherfuckers are only friends in the Middle East.
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09.04.05 - 2:24 pm | #
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Got here through a link on another blog.
I never heard of you before today, but I think I love you. Seriously. It's past time for people to see the truth of this non-administration of cronies and oil barons.
Kris |
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BTW, Assmonger (or is it 'Assclown'?) - since you're such a 'man', send me an e-mail (you have my address), and let's set up a chance for you to 'whup' my ass - hope you have good health insurance. I travel the country a lot teaching counter-terrorism classes - probably a good chance I'll pass near your trailer park.
In the meantime, I'll leave you with a bit of humor (or maybe reality for Assmonger):
Q: why was the dog fucking Assmonger's mother?
A: because dogs can't make a fist!
Loki |
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I'm really offended! Chauncy Gardiner was a humble and stylish character. I bet, if he knew the word at all, he would have pronounced "nuclear" corretctly and with far more seeming intelligence than Bush. And George W is FAR more fictitious.
I have a procedural question: In a city, who gets to name the streets? Reason I ask is that if I were a politico in New Orleans, next time things were restored enough to conduct a city council meeting, I'd start suggesting renaming some streets -- especially ones oil companies have offices on -- to things like "Killerbush Avenue," "GeorgeWTyrant Boulevard" and "Bushtraitor Street."
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I'm really offended! Chauncy Gardiner was a humble and stylish character. I bet, if he knew the word at all, he would have pronounced "nuclear" corretctly and with far more seeming intelligence than Bush. And George W is FAR more fictitious.
I have a procedural question: In a city, who gets to name the streets? Reason I ask is that if I were a politico in New Orleans, next time things were restored enough to conduct a city council meeting, I'd start suggesting renaming some streets -- especially ones oil companies have offices on -- to things like "Killerbush Avenue," "GeorgeWTyrant Boulevard" and "Bushtraitor Street."
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(Sorry about duplicate.)
just john |
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Not only are we on our own, the Homeland Security mafia has order the Red Cross to stay out of New Orleans. Maybe he's still pissed at them for blowing the whistle on his torture chambers and maybe he wants as few witnesses as possible, but whatever the reason, it's an evil reason for sure.
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"And you idiots cheered him on from the safety of your keyboards."
Sounds like this is a case of the rat calling the mouse a rodent, fuckbag. You're hiding behind YOUR keyboard. I wish I had your address, I would come over there and kick your fucking ass right now, you pussy.
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You guys will like this rant, too!!! 
I'm Sorry
Stoopid Repugs.
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and do you teach counter-terrorism classes wearing a bow-tie?
I bet your car even sports a John Kerry bumpersticker.
You liberal fuckheads are a bunch of fucking little pussies.
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Assmonger - again - give me your e-mail address and I'll happily meet you in person. That way you can see I don't wear a bow-tie - I'll leave that to your fellow coward-in-arms Tucker Carlson.
I served 7 years active duty in the 'Corps, and am currently serving in an Army Reserve Special Ops unit. I would be happy to impart some of what I've seen and learned around the world to an imbecile like yourself, either rhetorically, or in the form of you swallowing your own teeth (all three of them??). Assuming you can bear to tear yourself away from your moonshining operation, or fucking your sister, or whatever it is you do to pass the time while you steal our oxygen...
Loki |
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time to hoist the terrist threat level, yeah thet'll work
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http://www.livejournal.com/users...ijan/
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[I]This whole disaster-relief operation is a textbook example of "too little, too late." It's a textbook example of SHITTY LEADERSHIP. All the way from the bottom up. For the first 24 hours, the mayor of New Orleans told people he had it under control, and they didn't need help. Two days later, he's screaming and swearing at people for not coming sooner. What? Did he think the National Guard just shows up on its own? You have to ask! We, the soldiers of the Reserves and Guard, don't sit in our unit headquarters, watching CNN, and say, "Oh look! A disaster! Let's go!" WE CAN'T. We have to have orders. We need authorization. And we need to be requested. [B]And then, what about the governor of Louisiana? Have we even heard anything from him? He should have realized that the mayor of New Orleans wasn't seeing the situation clearly, and acted.[B] But no.[I]
Michelle,
I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but the Governor of Louisiana is a woman! You stupid bitch!
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09.04.05 - 3:28 pm | #
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Simply; Fuck Bush
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09.04.05 - 3:36 pm | #
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Or, Buck Fush!
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Amen Brother! It's time to get the adults back in charge.
AND IT'S TIME TO LAY RELATIVE CULPABILITY WHERE IT BELONGS - WITH THOSE THAT SUPPORTED THIS DANGEROUS ADMINISTRATION.
OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES.
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I've decided, after reading the various (usually riddled with misspelling) Bush apologist postings here, that there is no hope.
They are so immersed in bush love and liberal hate they are blinding themselves to what just happened in NO.
We, as responsible adults, need to vet out the cause of all this needless death, and fire those that let this happen.
Too many people died needlessly, while the man who could pull the levers sat in his fat ranch. For shame.
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Just remember folks, there are NO differences at the top between any political parties. They all work for the same masters, international banking elite and the military industrial complex. Elections are an illusion and the people running are not our friends and they never have been, EVER!
Bush is doing the job he was hired to do. Destroy America and America's credibility. Of course that is NOT the job you assumed he was hired to do, but it is nonetheless and he is doing a fantastic job.
Why is that his job? Because his puppetmasters are hellbent on having their New World Order at all costs and America is right in the path. They have to take it down so that the American Union can rise out of the ashes.
Bush, Martin and Fox have been meeting to discuss timelines for this to happen and the Council on Foreign Relations puts it a 5-7 years before it is complete. And considering that almost ALL congressmen and senators are members of CFR, it is guaranteed to happen right on que.
The federal government in the US and pretty much all of the scum in the Canadian government need to be removed. Of course Mexico is on the list as well, but lets not worry about that right now. We need to remove everyone within our federal governments top down. NO exceptions.
Then down size the operations drastically by putting all the power back into the hands of the states with only a skeleton operation in the fed.
Anyone who applies for a job, yes it is a job, must not be a member of CFR, Trilateral Commission, Skull & Bones, Scroll & Key, Mason, Zionist etc. etc. or any other private organization that has as it's agenda the takeover of the planet.
Nothing else will do. Nothing.
If you think you can change things at the poll's you are sadly mistaken and living in a dream world.
Good luck people and god bless us all.
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... I know Peter and Jenna but who the fuck is that bush guy you keep talking about ???!!
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There are several right-wingers posting that we should not bash Bush because it is really the fault of the mayor and the governor.This ignorant opinion is so stupid , it is hard to believe that a person capable of writing a post really believes it. Firstly, weather updates and forecasts and warnings are FEDeral responsibilities..Noah and other agencies. Once they make their evacuation warnings the governor and mayors are notified and they order evacuations. The Mayor does not have troops, buses, heavy equipment , flatbeds or fleets of helicopters.He has police and fire depts. The mayor immediately asked then pleaded for help from the Gov. and the feds....FEMA..tnhe agency charged with the job of protecting, and rescuing and reconstructing the areas all across our nation that are struck by disasters. Blanco DOES not have the LA Nat. Guard available because 40 % of the manpower along with their helis and heavy equipment is in Iraq...helping to "build schools and give freedom" to people who hate our guts.The president DID NOTHING to help...he even ignored the problem and gave a speech about VJ day containing 1 sentence about the unfolding disaster in NO. Where was the federal help the citzens had a right to expect.....still not there. Where were the troops, convoys, helicopters,hospital supplies, water and food. It is an embarassing disaster for Bush, and no amount of sreaming about the blame for the deaths to be placed on the victims, or the embattled Mayor and National-Guard depleted Governor will distract Americans from the view that Bush, Chertof and the entire Federal administration has been monumentally INCOMPETENT.The people left in the city were the POOR...they had no cars....no transport to get out. They are old..sick..have a family of kids that can't just walk out. Many are in need of meds as well as water and food. It is a travesty that any American can call himself a patriot and not condemn the horrible abandonment of 100000 of us to cruel death and hardship.At long last, have these rightwingers no shame!!!!!
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Himself: Whenever The Shrub speaks, he moves his jaw sideways. A wiggle that is a telltale sign he is pissed and doesn't want to be where he is.
That's tardive dyskinesia, a permanent side effect of the powerful smirk- inhibiting drugs he's been on since the 2004 campaign.
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Isn't it a bit late to be speaking out
against
Stalin,
Mussolini,
Franco,
etc.?
What's done, is done.
Isn't it time to say (again):
"Can't we all getalong?"
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09.04.05 - 4:12 pm | #
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You're Damn Right.
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America gets their own Chernobyl. Thank you President Bush.
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A-fucking-men. I never heard of this blog before someone sent me a link to this rant. I was born in Brooklyn and have lived here my whole life and was here through 9/11 and you hit it right on the head about that punk ass bitch playing President like a little kid plays house. Now the rest of the country is starting to figure out what we've known all along.
Kudos to you sit, you just got bookmarked.
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Thomas Jefferson is saluting you from his grave. Great statement.
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One of the best blog posts I've read in ages.
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09.04.05 - 4:53 pm | #
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Excellent work!
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Thank you! I just hope that those stupid ass "moral bush voters" will rethink who they vote for in 08'. But I'm guessing they will vote for another little bush jr! I have given up on this country. I hear Canada is nice this time of the century.
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Wow!! The master has spoken.
Love,
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FECK YES.
Very well put.
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Bush may deserve some of the blame, but the governments of Louisiana and the city of New Orleans deserve at least as much. They saw this coming, they had a plan that would have provided transportation for those who were unable, for whatever reason, to get out, all before the hurricane hit. In fact the plan (created, I believe, in 2000) virtually prophesizes as to what will happen. Did it matter? No. Did N.O. follow the plan? No. Why? That is the question we should really be asking.
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You, and America as a whole, have a right to be angry about this. As if 9/11 wasn't bad enough, but during the same administration... one that claims to be so prepared and aware we have this. Something we knew was coming. Something we WERE prepared to conquer. Unfortunately, something that was ignored.
And thinking this makes us "cowards"? Well, tell that to the President... ask HIM to go to Iraq and fight on the frontlines. Ask him to stay a week or more in the Superdome with no food, water, toilets and piles of dead bodies rotting by his side. Do you honestly think he would, or that he even understands? Why is it that the supplies only started arriving down there when Pres. W decided to take a helicopter ride and have a photo op TWO DAYS LATER? It screams advertisement and nothing of leadership.
Glad to hear more ranting.
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Unfucking real!
Excellent article!
What is it going to take to get dubya out of the whitehouse?
Americans should definately be more afraid of who they've got sleeping in their whitehouse.
First things first, fire dubya's ass! And do it fast!
Then, perhaps the fear of americans will subside.
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"Lastly, and I'll end this quick so you can go ahead and begin your tirade. Do you honestly think any administration would have been able to be there and solve every problem within 1 day? 2 days? Do you realize the logistics involved? They didn't even know the seriousness until it was already...bad..."
I dunno. Look how much they've done just since yesterday. You know, when they finally got off their spoiled, fatcat asses.
You make me sick.
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Dude, you should get your own TV show. You rock. Way to rant!
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"Lastly, and I'll end this quick so you can go ahead and begin your tirade. Do you honestly think any administration would have been able to be there and solve every problem within 1 day? 2 days? Do you realize the logistics involved? They didn't even know the seriousness until it was already...bad..."
Look, if HARRY CONNICK Jr can get from NYC to the New Orleans convention center with food and water BEFORE FEMA, then we have a BIG problem.
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this is so well put! thank you for writing this.
honey bunny |
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09.04.05 - 8:02 pm | #
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There's no such thing as a decent Republican. They're all fucking traitors.
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09.04.05 - 8:19 pm | #
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well said
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09.04.05 - 8:32 pm | #
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It is a crying shame that this had to happen to wake people up. I am sending this to everyone I know, and for the 1st time in 5 years I am not worrying about how I might "offend".
Rock on.
DW in Brooklyn where I used to have a view of the WTC
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09.04.05 - 8:36 pm | #
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marry me.
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nightmare
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i've read all 500+ posts and NOT ONE MENTION of how cuba handled Hurricane Ivan last year - a country of 11.9 million people evacuated 1.9 million people with ONLY ONE DEATH, not to mention all the other ways and means of managing a CAT 5 hurricane they use there. here's just one report:
http://www.medicc.org/medicc_rev.../
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assuming the 500+ posts are a good cross-section of american opinion (and probably of the more educated part!), the ignorance down there is staggering. and your ignorance is institutional in origin, not individual (hear me well, please). it is due to your education system and your lying mainstream media, which are interwoven with your economic system.
so, for all of those who "vented" on George Bush as a result of steve gilliard's "rant", your problems in america are a lot deeper than simply removing the figurehead of the moment.
and, please, spare me the jingoism and anti-communism which characterized many of the postings. with a disaster of this magnitude, now is the time for some introspection.
an american expatriate in canada
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09.04.05 - 9:16 pm | #
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BRAVO!! BRAVO!!! My god, that was the best damn thing I ever read!!!!!
"George Bush's ineptitude has killed far more Americans than Osama could have dreamed of."
I LOVE YOU!!!!
Too bad, even in this thread, people are excusing this asshole. Amazing. They just don't get it.
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This is the most idiotic thing I have ever read, as well as most of the comments supporting it. It is not the federal governments resposibility to control looting and rescue efforts... that is the job of the national guard, which is called in, and under 100% control of a specific states GOVENOR. It is the states job to request and activate the national guard, the fact that lousiana had only activated 2000 guard troops 2 days after the storm, and only 10,000 as of yesterday... speaks volumes of the complete stupidity of this states government... and not to mention A FEDERAL STUDY 4 years ago concerning New Orleans and the effects of a Category 3 or higher hurricane 100% accurately predicted this exact situation. Stop blaming Bush and the Federal government for a city who could not properly form a plan to deal with a hurricane when they know they sit on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico and are under sea level. If you don't agree, move the fuck out of this country and see if you are better off somewhere else you spoiled pieces of shit, or better yet, get off your ass and drive to these areas and volunteer to help out, because the largest disaster relief effort in our history isn't gonna get any better with just donations, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of man hours will hardly put a dent in this. The majority of all of you obviously listen to everything you see and read and don't form intelligent opinions for yourselves.... therefore I have to say, most of you are fucking morons.
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Leave?
TC, you should know we will enjoy ourselves far more knowing we are staying to save the nation we love from wingnuts like yourself, and annoying the hell out of you while we do it.
Have a lovely day.
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Wingnut nothing, did I say I support Bush? No... but I went through hurricane Andrew in the hardest hit part of Miami and have personal experience with similar situations... something I am sure the majority of you do not... And I know where the help has to come from and who has made the mistakes here, and I am simply saying, you are not correctly identifying the people responsible for this situation.
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As an old school republican I can only say DEAD ON!!
Current Republicans have abandoned the principles that made the GOP and turned into Social Reactionary looters.
The current admin will rank up their with Tamany Hall in its ineptitude and corruption
Get rid of this fake republicans VOTE
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too fucking right. we all thought it, just you were the one to word it so eloquently.
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Impeach him now.
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Why has National Security in this country become an After-the-Fact? Remember the hijacking of planes to and from Cuba for a couple of decades but no one thinks to use our multi-billion dollar radar system to track our own planes and send up military jets to find out why they're off route until after 9/11? We have the largest military fleet with the most carriers in the world and none could be dispatched to the hurricane ravaged coastline so people stranded there could be airlifted or boated to those ships to get them out of there? How can this administration explain how thousands of people were airlifted or were boated out of Cuba in the 1960's to the safety of Miami after the revolution but this administration failed to get our own citizens to safety within our own country knowing well in advance that that Hurricane Katrina was aimed right into that coast? Anyone thinking about, "Nero fiddled while Rome burned?"
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@ TC:
"It is not the federal governments resposibility to control looting and rescue efforts..."
Oh yeah? How about this:
"Preparing America
In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort. "
http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/
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'ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation.' ??
'providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis' ??
DHS, my ass...
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First of all, let me extend my heart-felt sympathies to all the people that are suffering in this terrible catastrophe. I am writing this from the opposite end of the earth in New Zealand; I am a 33 yr old male but I find myself with tears rolling down my cheeks watching the devastation unfold before my eyes and the stories of utter despair from everyone involved shocks me to my core. It is indescribable the enormity of this disaster and I hope my humble words are not misconstrued. America is an incredible country and the people - diverse, compassionate, humorous, intelligent, determined, independent - are in a league of their own. I have had the pleasure of visiting New Orleans and the Jazz festival and remember a heart-rending rendition of 'Them bones' by a gospel choir dedicated to the victims of the Oklahoma bombing that had just happened 'raising them bones to the Lord'. I have travelled throughout America on several occassions and cannot speak highly enough of what a truly special place it is. Americans have so much to be proud of, and it is no secret to know how much of an influence America and Americans are to the rest of the world. Whether it be with your great writers (Tennessee Williams, DeLillo, Pynchon etc.), sporting greats, inventors, scientists, social activists, counter-culture indentities, musicians, film and television etc etc the list is endless how much Americans have contributed to the overall knowledge, culture and progression of the human condition. Which brings me to my point of why I'm a writing this post. I have been truly inspired by what I have seen written in the responses and the original post and other sites where Americans from all over are rallying at the federal governments response to Hurricane Katrina and the Bush administration's incompetence in general. If anything positive can come from this disaster please let it be that this is the catalyst for regime change in Washington D.C and an opportunity to restore everything that is great about America and should be remembered for. Not the lies, greed, corruption, business scandals, war-mongering and cronyism that is the Bush administration's legacy to America and the rest of the world. The American people deserve so much better than a spiritually, emotionally, intellectually bankrupt President, an AWOL Vice-President and a shoe-shopping Secretary of State. The history books will not be kind to the current adminstration. However, history and the world will be forever changed when the American people finally say enough to the venal politics of this administration. Change can only come from within (I realise this has nothing to do with any other country) but I can not emphasis how encouraging it is to read the posts in this forum and in particular Steve's fighting words which really capture the rage that is so apparent and shared everywhere. Please keep up your questioning and demands and words and actions and do not stop until the American people get the answers and accountablity and resolutions that keeps your great nation great. I have never written to a forum like this before but can't help but be inspired by the outrage at this Government and how empowering the obvious emotion and resolve to put an end once and for all to this insidious ideological government is. It is sickening to read the cowardly (and quite telling) mostly anonymous replies from shameless apologists of this administration who seem more concerned about saving Bush's "reputation" than they do the people suffering in the afflicted areas. Or else they trundle out the same old wearisome, tea-weak bromides of criticising the criticisers. Only because they can not defend the indefensible. The good news is that they can no longer be a credible voice. Not now, not ever. They are spent. We know it, they know it, the world knows it. I realise this must be an incredibly trying time and the sadness profound but I also know that the American people will overcome adversity and champion once again all that is so admired throughout the world of your incredible people and country.
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Dude!!
Did you read my mind?
Great essay!
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You dumb lefties still hyping about the revolution? I'm looking out my window and I don't see any beret wearing Che wannabes.
Come on, commies.
Arm up.
Be men about this. Put your money where your mouth is.
What a bunch of loony tunes here....
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I'd like to start off by saying this... if you want to talk to me e-mail me and I'll be happy to argue with you.
I'm a conservative and I don't really like Bush all that much, but I hated Kerry... so I voted Bush.
Now that I killed off half you liberals with just that statement...
Seriously why do you guys just like preaching to the choir? This news blog is so liberally bent its scary.
Here's a thing a professor of mine told me... if you find yourself agreeing too much with a news organization chances are they are biased.
I hate how you guys make politics into a shit contest... we're on the same team.
Ok I'm done bashing the site..
Now for Steve... go argue with someone who will fight back you pussy. You do jack shit complaining to a bunch of people who agree with you.
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Fuckin' A. This is the best rant I read in along long time. I wish I could namesdrop and factdrop and bite as hard as this bites, but I only manage to get close on one or two occasions in the opeds I do. Kudos and many thanks. My feelings altogether.
@Ron: Indeed, all the while I like this rant, it is exactly that - a rant. To get things actually moving, it is not a good foundation. Still, the point that, "George Bush's ineptitude has killed far more Americans than Osama could have dreamed of" is an undeniable fact. And this is the most worrying thing: it does not matter if Brown has to go. He'll be replaced by another Brown as long as this excuse for a president hasn't been impeached to hell and back.
On Thursday, George Walker Bush relaxed at a game of golf. Now, there's no law prohibiting that, and indeed, he would well deserve to relax as soon as the NOLA matter was under control. Which it wasn't.
Judging everything, especially the underfunding of FEMA and flood protection schemes AFTER the pre-2002 studies that the next big hurricane stands a high chance of setting NOLA under "20 feet of water" and "killing thousands" and in the light of the knowledge that NOAA predicted a hurricane season twice as strong as usual early this year (and knew 20 years ago 2000-2010 would be a high-intensity period in the hurricane cycle), it is my opinion that, no matter how alienating the thought may be, and nonwithstanding I am in general opposed to the death penalty, impeachment and subsequent execution is the only appropriate way of dealing with this.
If we don't get rid of this man permanently, all the future will hold is more and more Katrinas. And besides, it does have a certain poetic justice to see Mr. Bush boil his life away on the electric chair or chocke in the gas chamber that he loves so well. As long as this man is allowed to exercise power, or to get back into a position of power once removed from it, he represents a mortal threat to the lives of American civilians the likes of which do not exist at current anywhere in the world.
If alone for nipping a bad example in the bud, it is my sincere opinion that Mr. Bush must receive impeachment, followed by capital punishment. A soldier doing the equivalent of what the president did would face the firing squad in any army in the world, and rightly so. And if a ceasefire with moderate Republicans is necessary to achieve that goal, by God, I am game.
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How dare you liberal commie-symp Islamofascist apologists say mean things about President Bush--
oops, excuse me, I just pooped in my pants. Gotta go clean up.
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Yoo hoo. Lefties. Where is all the gunfire? Where are the bombs?
Come on. The SLA used to stand up. The Weathermen used to stand up.
Where are the true believers?
Or are you simply content to tap keyboards and sip hot chocolate?
Cowards. All of you.
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Come on America haters. Grow a beard, don a beret, hoist an AK-47.
Join the revolution!
George |
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One of the better rants I've read.
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Right on brother! The revolution's a comin.. on the wings of a butterfly! hey hey hey!
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Best.
Rant.
Ever.
Tell it, brother.
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I think George is right, we should all just vote for the Communists or Socialists in the next elections.
The Democraps have proven how spineless and useless they are. The Republicants only seem interested in lining the pockets of their cronies at taxpayer expense. We should have seen this coming when they picked a guy who ran two oil businesses in to the ground. He is utterly incompetent at anything, from protecting one country to invading another.
Turn off your television, it only spreads distractions and disinformation. Turn in your party allegiances, they aren't loyal to you. Turn out in large numbers and put the Commies or the Socialists in the Congress, we certainly have done worse with what they "two parties" have offered us.
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Did I mention Communist Cuba has a higher literacy rate than the Great US of A? If more people read, we'd have less ignorant fucks like George around.
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From California:
This is fucking great. Really fucking great. Visiting for the first, but definitely not the last, time.
Excellent comments. That one guy, George, we see a few of like him here in CA. Republican closet cases, mostly. Self loathing homosexuals. Sad. In normal times I could muster some sympathy but not tonight. I would argue with him, but what is the point? He is in the Fuhrerbunker with Cheney, as the Russians advance, kissing ass and prancing about in his party uniform.
Sad. Just fucking sad.
Regards all.
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Saw this link on crooks and liars.com. Well worth the mouse click. I should be working on my Assclown of the Week: Sink or Swim Edition but I couldn't not read this.
That Shepherd Smith and Geraldo Rivera broadcast on Sean Handjob's show was fucking priceless and actually made me cry. That clip wouldn't've had nearly as much impact if it had been broadcast on any other network, even CNN.
But coming from Fox "News"?
Priceless.
Simply priceless.
Let's hope this acts as a springboard for Smith finally seeing the light and Rivera regaining his old form.
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Joshua "Woulf"
Talk about misguided youth You cant even stand up for your own lifestyle so your argument can hardly be taken seriously
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Joshua "Woulf"
Talk about misguided youth You cant even stand up for your own lifestyle so your argument can hardly be taken seriously
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Wow!
Reading that was like breathing fresh air after 5 years in a mine shaft
(you've got to nix the 'n' word though)
Now If we could find a Dem candidate with your gavonnes...
Hey America:
WAKE UP
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George, Ron - Have either of you ever served in the military? Ever been in combat? If you're like most Bush supporters (or Kerry supporters, for that matter), odds are you never have. Which makes your support for Bush and the Iraq war very hypocritical and chickenshit. George, you mention "cowards", well what the fuck are you if you're afraid to go serve in the fight yourself?!? (I was deployed in Iraq all of last year - where were you? Jerking off to Rush??).
George - send me your e-mail address, we'll talk, and when I'm in your area you can find out what it feels like to be on the receiving end of more than just verbal abuse, assuming YOU'RE 'man enough'. Same for you, Ron. If people like you aren't serving in the war (never mind all the other BS that Bush has brought down on this country), then you have no right to support it. You're all fucking cowards, and traitors to the REAL values for which this nation stands. The Democrats are spineless and weak, but they have never wrought the destruction to America that Bush has. God help us...
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jay, you try hard to pull information out of context or maybe you just don't understand what you read. If you check the website you linked to, and read the actual articles provided, you will find it is all correct and was done in this instance. It is the job of the State to handle the situation, the federal government assists ONLY when the State declares they are overwhelmed. Even then, it does not include military deployment to resolve the situation unless Martial Law is declared.
Your specific quotes are, "ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation" - do you think this happens overnight? It is still up to the 'professionals' to prepare for their paticular situation. And the other quote, "providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis" - is related to assistance in terms of funding to aid recovery. All of this MUST be requested by the State. But you almost make a good case by taking a summary quote from the website instead of pulling information from the actual documents describing their roles.
http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/dis...isplay?
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And for the rest of you, don't believe what you read. People lie for their own benefit. If your parents didn't teach you this basic concept, then you are in for far more heartbreak than this administration appears to cause.
It is not the role of the federal government to control the situation in New Orleans. This is a fact, and you cannot change it by writing lies. The Mayor is responsible for the city. If the Mayor cannot handle the situation, then the State steps in. If the State needs ASSISTANCE, then the State requests it from the federal government. Bush did exactly what he could for the people of New Orleans.
Before you start bashing me, just think about it. Would you want Bush sending the military into every domestic situation we encounter? Obviously not. So there is some red tape to complete before he can help.
The State requested funding from Bush prior to the hurricane hitting. Why didn't they request more if they new this was going to happen? Because the local and state governments failed in this situation. Not Bush's fault, even though you would like to blame him.
The true blame actually falls to the poor people of New Orleans. First, they should have evacuated. The Mayor has assistance transportation available to anyone requesting it PRIOR to the hit. So anyone wanting out could have left.
They should have AT LEAST prepared for the hurricane. For those who do not live on the Gulf Coast, you stock enough food and water for each person for at least 3 DAYS! On the first day, people who FLED to the superdome did not bring ANY food or water! I guess they thought it would be provided, after all, the liberals do a good job of taking care of them anyway... why bother taking care of yourself.
And the thing that really gets me, is the helplessness of the people stuck at the convention center. I've only heard a few reports of people leaving the convention center to fend for themselves. There were many able bodied MEN sitting on their asses waiting for help to arrive. It's the people who should have gotten off their ass and helped themselves.
I'll bet most of you have never been through a category 5 hurricane. If you had, you wouldn't be blaming Bush for not helping. It is up to the individual to prepare. You cannot rely on the government to protect you from every problem in the world.
So ultimatly, if you want to pass blame, maybe you should start with the idea of liberalism. Liberalism forces people to rely on the government for food and shelter. That is exactly what happened when the levee broke. People began relying on the government to save them. It's just sad the local government failed to execute facing such an obvious disaster. And the State government appears to have reacted too slow to correct the failings of the local government. Thank god Bush was there to bail the liberals out once again.
... let the flaming begin!
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Don't worry, the screeching howling feces-throwing attack chimpanzees that are the Vast Right-wing Noise Machine will find someone else to blame for dear Leader's apathy. Let's see, let's blame the victims for being poor, they should have chosen to be born to rich parents like Dear Leader! And they didn't leave, oh sure, they had no car and the busses weren't running, but they had feet, didn't they? Oh, okay, the nursing home patients and hospital patients weren't going anywhere fast, but we'll blame that on the mayor, who should have invoked Madam Jujubu's magic voodo and magically teleported them over the clogged highways to safety on school busses that he had no idea existed because he is Mayor of New Orleans, he isn't Superintendent of Schools, the Orleans Parish School Board isn't under his jurisdiction and the only way he could get their busses would be at gunpoint, that's something that FEMA is supposed to coordinate (i.e., coordinate between two local governmental bodies) and FEMA didn't. Oh, I got it, let's blame the governor for not asking for help! Oops, she DID ask for help, the same day as the hurricane, but the Bushies held it up in bureaucracy for 4 days. Uhm, nevermind that, anybody is to blame except the mangy hairless alpha male that is their Dear Leader, alrighty then! Facts? Who needs steenkin' facts when you can just make shit up?
And the people who died? Who cares, they're just niggers anyhow. Alligator MRE's, yum!
Fucking racist assholes. They aren't human. They have nothing human, no human decency, no morality, no nothing. They're monkeys. Screaming, screeching, feces throwing monkeys. They should be exterminated as the dangerous vermin that they are. Lucky for them, those of us who give a shit about our fellow man are too humane to do that.
- Badtux the Irate Penguin
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eariler I posted 3 song pardies that strongly expressed how I feel about Bush, the Bush worshippers, and the state of Amerikka today. Now it's time for me to post this link about New Orleans(serious link) an 3 others which I hope will give others out there some good chuckles at Chimpy's expense and still gets the message across.
http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/
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http://www.flowgo.com/funpages/v...s/view.cfm/
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this flash parody pokes fun at them all
The Presidential Horror Show
http://www.flowgo.com/funpages/v...s/view.cfm/
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Clinton and Bush parody
http://www.flowgo.com/funpages/v...s/view.cfm/
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Michael More/Bush aww heck everyone gets it
Let's see how long before the foamers start in
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To Sadie
how do you expect the poor to flee from N.O. with only a 3 day warning? The uninformed, the babies/children, the animals, the elderly, the decrepit, the disabled. (& you honestly think they can afford transportation at BUSHes OIL PRICES? assuming they HAD a transport)
HOW?
Why did BUSH (& his cronies) refuse aid from France, from Canada??
Why did FEMA (appointed by BUSH [& his cronies]) cut off the helpless strandees' communication.
Why did they WAIT to get them OUT OF THERE? not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 days
Why the staged photo-ops (BUSH)? Why not use the AID/Copters those 2x he flew over N.O.?
Why not spend the money on the levees instead of the War (WW3) in Iraq. (which isnt even a minute fraction of the war costs in comparison)
oh great, im getting into more relevant tangents. It's not your fault you're ignorant/uninformed. I forgive you SADIE.
Throw out the IDIOT-BOX (TV). IMPEACH BUSH.
& Steve Gilliard... Thank You for your wonderful prose. Sincerely, THANK YOU.
( first time poster, but you've got a new peruser on your hands :] )
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I don't understand how it is considered "hating America" or "un-American" by some people to be against, or unhappy about the war in Iraq and/or our current, not-so-elected-but-there, gov't leaders. It just makes me so angry when I hear that.
We're past politics - we're past liberal/conservative - we're past name calling - we're all the way to survival as a nation. Hurricane Katrina's lack of response should wake us all up, thousands of innocent wonderful people didn't survive needlessly "as a nation." We're in the dark and the future's looking pretty piss poor, on both sides of the cough cough borders. I'm scared to death I'm losing my America as I've ever known it - and I'm not the only one. I'm now in the majority of the waking American public. Appears we've been sold to the highest bidder.
To me, sitting by and applauding a group of people taking us down a horrible, horrible, horrible, path in our lives, is not caring about us as a country. It blows my mind. That's American? Our country is falling apart, for those of us humble working slaves. Priorities are amuck. Dishonesty and secrecy are the newly accepted norms. Money rules, everyone's bought and paid for. Aggression across the globe is not the American way I've ever read or known about. Shooting first and asking questions later is not acceptable. Killing a kazillion unarmed, innocent, civilians is not acceptable. Torturing prisoners is unbelievable. Sacrificing blood for money and oil is unthinkable. That's not fighting terror, that's stooping to - and beyond - it's level. That's American?
My son is about to go spend the second full year of his life in Iraq. I completely support my son and all of our troops, they make me extremely proud. I can easily support them and still disagree with the direction our country is going. I only question why I'll be waving the flag in the hangar when I say good-bye to him this time. That's all. I have that right to want to know why.
Last time I felt okay about it all, I was waving the flag and beaming and feeling so damn patriotic. But that was 2 years ago, before the reasons for the war changed 3-4 times. That was also before Downing Street Memos and other eye-opening news and events.
Cindy Sheehan wants to know the reasons why her son died. I would love to know the reasons why my son will again be fighting to live.
This rant is the best. We've all got about 5 years worth built up and that really says it all for us (cept for the graphic words here and there). You just about covered it. Thanks!!
God Bless Our Troops and the thousands of hurricane victims.
A Soldier's Mom
American as hell.
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Great rant, buuut the claim "tax cuts kill" is fucking absurd. How about you democrats (I am Canadian) get off your fucking asses and talk about the elephant in the living room that is your military budget. You could cut about 350Billion in taxes tomorrow and not harm anyone but the MIC. Sometimes tax cuts aren't the problem but wacky spending.
Unless you want to argue that taxes are inherently good, regardless of how they are spent???
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I am 71 years old.I have never been so unhappy with our government.I can see that we are in more trouble than N.O.and the middle east.I cannot even look a GW on television without getting sick at my stomach.Your article is right on the money.As far as to how he got into office I beleive he purchased the election both times,once in my state and the last in Ohio.Washington is a joke.By the way where is Cheney.I have not seem him lately.Is he dead and his wife still collecting his salary??Have a great day and May God Bless our country.
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TC....You are completely WRONG. The Governor declared a state of emergency and sent the request to Bush BEFORE THE HURRICANE HIT. Her letter has been published. Bush accepted and declared a federal state of emergency the next day.FEMA and Chertoff have the disaster relief responsibility. Read the document at Larry Johnson's site....he should please you. He is a Republican, voted for Bush, is ex-CIA undercover spook....and has published the 2004 Bush document which explains why the feds are supposed to take over in such an emergency.I challenge you to go to his site..."no quarter" and get some facts and truth into your rightwing apologizer's psyche.
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Damn. The level of anger in these tirades is astounding. Do you really believe that the federal government's job is to micro-manage your life to the point of coming to get you when danger threatens? Are you complete sheep? Just whose responsibility is your life? Do you really want government officials - Bush's or anybody else's to pull the very marinette strings you offer them?
OK - So Washington is a joke _and_ it doesn't matter which Republican or Democrat is in office. Local and state government in Louisiana is so graft ridden that you can't have any respect for them. Why do you think government is some sort of omnipotent, omniscient, uber-manager seeking the truth and the light? Get real!
What happened to individual liberty in this country and the responsibility associated with it?
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Jesus, George, are you... are you masturbating while you write this stuff? Oh my God, you are! You totally are!
I hate to disapppoint you, but while most of the people here talk a good game, I find it hard to believe that any of them would willingly take up arms against their fellow Americans. Treasonous sentiments like that are generally the domain of people like you. And it's good that you're posting here, because it helps remind us of the kinds of mouth-breathing sentiments that got us so angry in the first place.
Good to see also that while the rest of us are consumed with anger and horror with our government over their inept response, on every level, to a disaster that's killed thousands, you're spending your time trolling liberal blogs, trying to mock us into revolution so maybe you can justifiably kill a few of us. Good to know your priorities are in order. Good to know this is how conservatives respond to national tragedies.
But take heart: I'm sure that, sooner or later, a natural disaster will hit wherever you live, and then you'll finally get the chance to bust out the guns and murder your countrymen as you a) loot, or b) shoot at looters. It will be your finest hour! Think of all the people you can kill for Jesus!
That is of course assuming you're actually "better armed" than us, and aren't just some skinny white boy who's never touched a gun. And that, if you ever were to fire one, the recoil wouldn't shatter your girly little wrists.
But for God's sake, let go of your dick before you type again. Seriously, what are you trying to do? Strangle it?
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Brad, dude... we aren't expecting the federal government to ride down from the heavens on a chariot of light and magically prevent people from dying. What we are expecting is a goddamn competent response from the bureaucrats whose SOLE JOB it is to ensure that thousands of Americans in a major city are not killed in the aftermath of a natural disaster. Otherwise, why are we paying taxes? To watch people dick around for four days after shit hits fan and then make excuses? This is a catastrophic failure of what is supposed to be the world's best government, and to see people defend it leaves me outraged.
FEMA's slow response to this hurricane is indefensible and inexcusable. If heads don't roll over this on every level of government responsible, then Bush is a president who abides incompetence. And I can't abide that.
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See what I mean...
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Brad, if I pay for something and it doesn't work the way I was told it would work, I take it back to the store. And if the clerk tells me, "What, did you actually expect this to work as advertised? Why do you think this product is some sort of omnipotent, omniscient, uber-manager seeking the truth and the light? Get real!"
Then that store isn't going to stay in business too much longer.
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I get so tired of liberal whining. George Bush was elected president by every possible measure. He is a good man that is concerned about this country first THAT is why Europe hates him. He is an American nationalist just like me.
You seem to think radical Islam is your friend. News flash dumb shit, they will kill you just as fast as anybody else because they don't give a shit who they kill. That is why they seem to enjoy killing more Iraqis that are women and children than anything else.
The only disaster that could have been worse for America would have been if John Kerry had become the President of the United States. Thank God Allah or the guy at Circle K that MOST Americans were intelligent enough to see through Kerry’s Bullshit.
What can be done for New Orleans is being done, but if you want to look at a REAL DUMBASS, I mean other than the one you see in the mirror, let's look at the Mayor of New Orleans. Why did he not use the cities rapid transit and school buses to get those people out that could not afford to leave. I still don't get that, "It will cost me too much money to save my life so I refuse to evacuate"
The Mayor of N.O. basically told everyone that was there as a tourist to "Ride it out in your hotels" and you want to point finger at the president for trying to clean up the mess that shithead helped create?
I could go on and on but in a head to head comparison of what President Bush has done and what YOU think should have been done, you will get handed your ass in a basket every time.
It has never failed that issue-by-issue President Bush comes out as being one of out finest Presidents. The only problem is that you liberals can't wrap your minds around the concept that you lost the election despite Michael Moore, and the full support of radical isalm and the french.
And just so you know, I am a little closer to the situation in New Orleans than you. I have family there. Thank god they were smart enough to get out when they were told to.
The war against terror? I have buddies on the ground in Iraq right now. I also know that reenlistments are way above normal from those soldiers THAT HAVE BEEN THERE and have FIRST HAND KNOWLEGE of the situation. Think about that. Those Americans that have ACCUALLY BEEN THERE FIGHTING are saying in unprecedented numbers, hey this is worth fighting for and I'm not leaving.
Have YOU ever done anything FOR this country or do you prefer to hide behind a computer screen and try to tear it down?
Your liberal mindset makes me sick. You hate President Bush so much for winning the election TWICE, that you are willing to destroy this country to get back at him. And that makes me wonder whose side you are on you self serving pompous computer tapping coward.
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I agree - FEMAs response is abhorrent. "...the World's best government" is just that - this IS the best government can do. So why is the solution more government, more bureaucrats, more FEMA?
The Red Cross and WalMart were at the gates of N.O. and both were turned back by the FEMAites. One is s private charity the other a publically-traded corporation. They could both get trucks in. I'd bet dollars to donuts that WalMart could solve the logistics of order and delivery. I had Hurricane Charley do $45,000 of damage to my house and wipe out the town north of me (Punta Gorda.) I went to Wal Mart with full confidence that they would have what the people of my community desperately needed.
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Which is exactly my point Rob: It would - and should - go out of business. When was the last time you saw a federal agency go out of business? According to my research is was the Resolution Trust Corporation (which turned out to be a non-transparent way to subsidize big banks who took on loans they shouldn't have). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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At least in the private sector when institutions become unresponsive to customers they do go out of business.
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There is another problem in America: the non-voter.
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P.S. New York wasn't the only state that voted against Bush twice.
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Ah, now I understand. I misinterpreted your earlier remark as a "why do you ask the moon of these people? They're doing the best they can" sort of thing.
My apologies. It seems we agree after all. The federal government has traditionally been slow, bloated and overdependent on protocol when it comes to getting the job done, no matter who's in charge. It's just that this is a particularly horrific example.
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I wish freepers would learn how to paraphrase. Maybe they're robots. great post, cracker.
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Krieger, yer just another Limbaugh clone who says "liberal" with as much hatred as a racist saying "nigger" and then proceed to tell us that if we don't agree with you then we are against the country and a supporter of terrorism and Islam. The divide he has created in this country is insane, pretty soon liberals vs conservatives will be the next north vs south civil war. And in that case yes, the liberals will get their asses handed to them in a basket every time because they don't own any guns much less an iron clad nuclear bunker like every conservative has in their backyard 
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Right on. "Resident" Bush is responsible for more deaths than any current foreign leader or terrorist.
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But wait, we must return law to the area. "The Insurgents" must be squashed with great force. I mean, stealing designer clothes... Weren't they happy with their shit and piss and dead-body coated clothes? God forbid they break into a grocery store and take what would rot soon anyway.
I think, ultimately, it's cheaper for them to let these people die, since they don't contribute financially to King Bush's plans. True rescue, relief and action are costly.
Let's just throw some machinery up for a photo, then tear down the food booths on the way out. It's the American way, because the business of America is business, right?
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Wow. Completely and utterly ignorant how you ramble on and on. This sort of ranting gets a whole lot done, doesn't it.
Unbelievable.
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Does this mean the guy posting this does not like President Bush? I am not sure.
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Hey, previous poster 'C':
The fact that you didn't understand what he wrote doesn't make it 'rambling'. It makes YOU ignorant.
To the author:
Bravo! This is going to everyone I know. Including the dubya-loving apologists for proto-fascism.
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J. Krieger - you just amaze me. You need to go back to sleep under your rock. You obviously are rich, on drugs, or just not real bright....because those are the only 3 classes/groups of people that could possibly still feel the way you do. Do some real reading and research, meaning sources other than CNN and FOX.
Finally, your comment about your relatives being "smart enough" to leave New Orleans reflects the depth of your ignorance. How many people without transportation, physically unable to leave on their own, or without money for gas did your relatives take with them???
A Soldier's Mom
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I normally don't post comments or advocate communicating with the amount of vulgarity in this piece but I have to admit the total lack of competence in all of this is beyond belief and all the administrative staff in the chain of command should definitely be sentenced to a lifetime of community service.
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Impeach Bush, before Roberts becomes Chief Justice and controls the hearing!
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!
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Steve, I read this and cheered. Bra-fucking-vo.
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Haloscan lied. I'm not trying to be anonymous.
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09.05.05 - 1:48 pm | #
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This blog, and it's responses, are perfect examples of why the left is continuing it's death spiral into absurdity. What do we read here?
Kill Bush.(ala Romania, '89)
Kill all republicans.
Neo-cons are; racist, bigoted, fags (and I thought libs were supposed to be "tolerant"), Nazis, rich, uncaring, mean, murderers, bla, bla, bla......
Time for the revolution.
Bush killed more americans than Osama.
On and on and on....
Despite the largest humanitarian response in our history, the tremendous well-spring of giving from every state, the tens of thousands of troops, the housing of hundreds of thousands of refugees, people are still complaining America turned her back on New Orleans.
Nothing Bush and America can do will ever be good enough for the rabid mouth foamers who post here. Fortunately, no one listens to you people. Maybe that's why you are going so insane.
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Don't worry folks. That fat dog on leash named Rove will find a way to make it all smell nice and rosy. And Americans will swallow it like Jenna swallows Peter's cum. Cause it ain't Bush, or Cheney, or the PNAC, or Rove, or Coulter...it's us. We have turned into a nation of puritanical(and bigoted) fuckheads. We hate gays, niggers, moslems, and evolution. We covet stupidity. Any sort of intellectual pursuit or debate is "snobbery." We are proud of being dumb. This is our new national heritage. You don't really know how much the rest of the world despises us until you get out and travel, which I'm doing right now. I'm actaully afraid to admit that I'm an American now since I've discovered that that admission is often met with a loud and angry outburst, or quite disdain. It's painful to think that I was once proud to be an American.
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blue2golf,
I guess that is why Bush approval is at 38%...an unprecedented abysmal lack of popular confidence. The question is why doesn't Bush do ONE THING that would be good enough for 50 million citizens who voted against him?? Don't be so arrogantly stupid...we know this nation can and will rescue our disaster victims...eventually...but the speed of an effective and immediate response is mandatory or thousands die...like they have in New Orleans.Bush and Chertoff were inept and ineffective...and that makes me furious. How can you defend the cutting of funds by this government for 3 consecutive years aimed at correcting inadequate protective levees??? How can you fail to see how spending 300 billion dollars in Iraq and not 300 million to safeguard a pivotal port ...the entrance gate for oil and food products makes a mockery of government planning. THINK.. don't be a robotic rightwing dupe.
Marty
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Right ON! Thanks for this post. You summed it up for those of us still to enraged to be able to string together a coherent thought.
This pretty much sums up my thoughts ont he matter.
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nagin is only a dem by convenience
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nagin
wonder if the neocons know this yet
and we shouldnt cannonize the man...he never really had a plan to get the poor out of the city...he didnt have the resources
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I thought you liberals were the tolerant ones?
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09.05.05 - 3:39 pm | #
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The Liberal policies enacted by Democrats and Socialists (is there a difference?) have harmed more people in this country than anything else.
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> "How can you defend the cutting of funds by this government for 3 consecutive years aimed at correcting inadequate protective levees???"
You can say the same thing about any other risky locale in the U.S. If the BIG ONE hits, L.A. will go underground. Why aren't we moving those people out of there now!? Half of the island of Hawaii could break off and slide into the ocean. Why is anyone still living on that island? Not to mention the tsunami that will hit the West Coast. Yellowstone could blow sky high. Why can't we move people out of there right now?!
The absurdity the above charges are being matched by the finger pointing in Katrina's aftermath. Bush hatred combined with politcal calculation are bubbling to the surface here.
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blue
why do neocons always answer questions with absurdities?
the question was, how you could defend cutting the funding to shore up the levee system, and the flood drainage system....not whether we should have mass eveacuations from all populated areas at risk
there is another levee system that too is at great risk, in the sacramento delta area in cali...funding there too has been cut severely
this is not about bush hatred, this is about common sense, and a fed that has failed its people
but keep throwing out the rove talking points....makes you guys look like bigger asses than you already are
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I'd love to see this do the chimp in but I doubt it will. Mediocrity is celebrated in America these days. I was born and raised in Texas and work with Bushite's. These fool's will stand by their man come hell or high water. I was the only employee in my shop who voted for Kerry and have learned not to discuss politics or bash Rush Limbaugh within earshot of these sheeple. Not a day goes by that I am forced to bite my tongue to keep a fuckin job. My father passed away a couple of years ago and I dont want to leave Texas while my mother is alive, but someday I'll escape from this God-forsaken redneck hell hole and move to a blue state if there are any states left by then.
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Here in Canada we were seriously beggining to think that in the states the lunkhead reigned supreme. Holy shit, is this what it takes to wake you guys up to the littany of bald faced lies you mental midget of a president has been feeding you. Some one seems to be waking up.....But I will only beleive it when I see it. The Romans called it bread and circuses, ie keep them fed and entertained so they don't ask questions...Look where it got them.
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J. Krieger--a good German. Right down to the surname.
Great rant, Mr. Gilliard.
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this is a joke your all ass wipes you sure do give bush alot of power you must think he is some kinda GOD why don't you just come out and say yeah and he created Katrina
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AMEN!
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09.05.05 - 4:30 pm | #
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Bush created Katrina to kill gays and black Democrats.
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Boy howdy, that was satisfying. Thanks.
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To Steve: Great post
To Krieger:
George Bush was elected president by every possible measure. He is a good man that is concerned about this country first THAT is why Europe hates him. He is an American nationalist just like me.
By every possible measure, I presume you refer to the coup d'etat by which Bush stole power (twice).
No matter. As an Englishman I previously hated George Bush because he and his criminal gang have taken a nation that represented the dreams and ideals of the world and turned it into a pariah state.
Now I hate him more because of his Neroic indifference to the plight of even those whose family he has sent to die for him abroad.
I am shocked that I am shocked about Bush's ineptitude and moral depravity. From over here it looks like only Americans who count to Bush and his gang are those Americans who are in his gang.
Do you not feel ashamed to support those who would cast you aside in an instant?
To everyone else: My heartfelt sympathies to all of you who have lost loved ones or are waiting on their fate.
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Ah, sweet, sweet catharsis. Thanks, Steve!
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blue2golf ,
Possibly you do not comprehend English.Look....use your cognitive senses.....The Corps of Engineers...the Bush governments corps said that we needed to complete the levee reconstruction or a category 4 hurricane would flood N.O. and cause immense death and destruction.Many reports were written that supported this scenario..scientifically. Can you not admit that cutting the funds to complete the repair of these levees significantly contributed to the disaster???? Bush cut funds 3 years in a row so the levees we4nt under....and hew knew or should have known that this would happen. If it was Clinton you would be calling for impeachment hearings. You are an impervious wall to logic and truth...you will support an incompetent no matter what the facts show. You are an impossible Republican, and a danger to our country.
Marty
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sounds to me like you hate america. why do you hate amercia, so much?
JUST KIDDING ... but isnt that what you ALWAYS hear when someone tells the god's honest truth?
this is right on the mark.
my 75-year-old mother could have done a better job organizing the katrina response. but then, she too is a right-wing republican -- and i think we've had our fill of them.
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From a perspective while living and working a long way from my country that I love as much as any right wing fascist cult fucker claims to, America is looking pretty fucking stupid right now.
And patriotism is the solution, which is rapidly becoming supporting any American oragnization that has as it's primary objective, the total political destruction by any means necessary of this un-American neo-fascist cult originating and currently governing from the sewers of the American political, business, religious, and media communities.
Long live America and everything good she has attempted to represent for the last 230 years.
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Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!
comments@whitehouse.gov
It does not take long to send an email that says (you can even copy and paste this in):
Mr. President:
Resign.
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Ok morons lets look at this. Did bush make the flood? NO fucktards!!! It's called a natural disaster for a reason. It happens naturally and it's a disaster nomatter which way you slice it. Bush is providing as much aid and help as he can at this point. Do you really think it would have been feasible for the entire military to go down there to evacuate everyone? He did what he could with the resources he had. Eat it. Kerry licks my nuts. Quit bitching you lost the election.
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I want Bush DEAD, I want Cheney DEAD, I want Rice DEAD, I want Rove DEAD and I want Brown DEAD, DEAD and FUCKING D.E.A.D.!!!
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Larry, if you post again I'll hunt you down and KILL YOU!!!
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ok anonymous dickhead
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Pod of whales, swarm of bees, gaggle of geese, school of fish -- I suggest a collective for the Bush Administration: A dither of dolts.
Because I don't want to see the title "President" tarnished any further, I decline to use it with regard to Mr. Bush, whom I now characterize as the "Chief of the Counterfeit Compassionate Conservative And Oh Yeah By The Way Conspicuously Caucasian Caucus". In keeping with the "C" pattern of alliteration, I am also willing to consider inclusion of "Criminal", "Crass", or "Clueless". For obvious reasons, "Competent" will not be considered for inclusion.
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Pod of whales, swarm of bees, gaggle of geese, school of fish -- I suggest a collective for the Bush Administration: A dither of dolts.
Because I don't want to see the title "President" tarnished any further, I decline to use it with regard to Mr. Bush, whom I now characterize as the "Chief of the Counterfeit Compassionate Conservative And Oh Yeah By The Way Conspicuously Caucasian Caucus". In keeping with the "C" pattern of alliteration, I am also willing to consider inclusion of "Criminal", "Crass", or "Clueless". For obvious reasons, "Competent" will not be considered for inclusion.
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dickhead? Larry, if anyone around here is a "dickhead" it's you. So much so that I'm surprised that you don't have cum spewing from you're mouth but then maybe you do but that has more to do with you're lifestyle choice's.
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Does anyone remember television being called the boob tube? Well, guess what? I turned my television off...I refuse to watch American Idol, Survivor, the Batchelor, and the news and that includes CNN, FOX, MSNBC,and CBS...ALL of the fat asses in Washington think that we have become a bunch of consumer idiots who subsist on commercials and reality TV instead of living thoughtful, fulfilling lives. Did you know that BOTH Republicans and Democrats have signed off on the Patriot Act and the rest of the legislation that took money away from those NOLA levees and that gave govenment contracts to Halliburton...those ASSES don't want to lose their meal tickets and their medical benefits for life...while the rest of us keep paying higher and higher prices...at the gas pump, for our heating oil, for our homes... and with our lives in IRAQ! Believe me, none of their kids are sloshing buckets and wearing boots in NOLA nor are they members of the ground troops in Baghdad. WAKE UP AMERICA! WHERE ARE OUR HEROES? Did anyone see Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton in NOLA? Where are the Southern Baptists in NOLA to do the charitable thing and bury the dead? Too busy trying to figure out what the INTELLIGENT DESIGN of this disaster is? November is approaching! PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE! Before it is too late. Get these lazy malingerers out of OUR CAPITAL. We the people want more and better than this and We the people can do it. We're Americans, damn it. Don't let the Europeans believe that we are the weak fat asses that we are becoming and that are representing us to the rest of the world.
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Larry,
Can you possibly be more moronic.NO-one has said BUSH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HURRICANES. He is responsible for the inept and disgracefully incompetent response to the natural disaster. UIf you lived in an aqrea that was stricken and needed a federal response to save you or your family, you might alswo be upset. Instead you simply support the Bush/Rove propaganda. You are sooooo stuuupid.
Marty
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Oh my God. Even Barbara Bush is insane...
Barbara Bush: 'So many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this --this is working very well for them'...
-- she's talking of the New Orleans evacuees who wound up in Texas.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash5bb.htm
-- WITH AN MP3 FILE OF HER SAYING THAT. (138K)
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Marty, Larry's response is typical of "dickheads" that have no other way to defend they're fuhrer and his handlers. "oh, he didn't cause the storm" NO FUCKING SHIT YOU COCKSLURPING MOTHERFUCKING ASSWIPE. But he and his administration are the ones that cut spending and ignored advice from FEMA about both THIS and 9/11. Larry, go fuck yourself and pray for you're mother because I pity that she ever shat out such a brain dead troll like you're worthless ass! P.S. FUCK YOU!
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J. Krieger: If you think Bush and Rove care about America and the common working man, you need to empty the shit out of your ears. Those two and their cronies care about THEMSELVES and their rich buddies in the U.S. and Saudi Arabia and that's it.
"Freedom is on the march!"
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More Gilliard. Please.
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Damn...just damn. That has to be one of the best things I've read since this whole shitty mess started. I have to wonder though, how many more people have to die before the assholes who still fuckin' support this moron get a damn clue?
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J Krieger, Larry, blue2golf - why the fuck aren't any of you pussies serving in Iraq? You're all just impotent, cowardly wastes of skin. Instead of trolling on this site, you should be down enlisting to serve in the war(s). Or heading down to the NO area to help.
I served in Iraq last year, and am headed down to the vcnty of NO next week. What's your pathetic excuse? Why don't you just eat a bullet and do us all a favor. Or send me your e-mail address so I can coordinate a visit to your area for some 're-education'. You're chickenshit cowards, all three of you. Don't bother replying until you start by explaining your lame-ass excuse for not serving in the war. Fucking losers...
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Why is this called the "news blog?"
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Am I correct in assuming that the point of your post is convincing others to adopt your view?
If this is so, allow me to share a few tips that will make the process more palatable.
First, try to use more logic and reason and less vitriolic language. Swing voters don't respond well to intense and fatalistic brands of hatred; they'd rather go to the group that appears the most balanced- whether they actually are the most balanced is not important.
The second tip is related to the first but slightly different- try to enhance your syntax and diction in such a way that the average American reader will choose to digest it. Saying "Bush fucked up" umpteen times is good for shock value, but it might be better for the group you actually seek to sway if you said, "Bush, through his inadequate policies and lack of foresight, practically allowed the city of New Orleans to be destroyed."
Your style of writing, as it stands now, only serves to invigorate the faithful- you need cautious language to snare those sitting on the fence.
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Am I correct in assuming that the point of your post is convincing others to adopt your view?
If this is so, allow me to share a few tips that will make the process more palatable.
First, try to use more logic and reason and less vitriolic language. Swing voters don't respond well to intense and fatalistic brands of hatred; they'd rather go to the group that appears the most balanced- whether they actually are the most balanced is not important.
The second tip is related to the first but slightly different- try to enhance your syntax and diction in such a way that the average American reader will choose to digest it. Saying "Bush fucked up" umpteen times is good for shock value, but it might be better for the group you actually seek to sway if you said, "Bush, through his inadequate policies and lack of foresight, practically allowed the city of New Orleans to be destroyed."
Your style of writing, as it stands now, only serves to invigorate the faithful- you need cautious language to snare those sitting on the fence.
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Bush is an idiot and a fool. But, he is not nearly the moronic imbicile that John Kerry is. We had a choice between dumb and dumber, and dumb won.
"Tax cuts kill. Ask the relatives of the dead of the Gulf Coast"
That comment alone removes any glimmer of you having any common sense at all. You are a pathetic socialist misfit.
New Yorkers like you should be ashamed of yourselves. You vote for politicians like Schumer and Clinton. You people give up your Constitutional rights like they mean nothing. The next time (God Forbid) something like this hits NY you'll wish to God you never gave up your Second Ammendment rights... The heart wrenching images comming out of LA, prove the need for individuals to be able to protect themselves and their families. Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Not looting, lawlessness and the Government will save me...
You deserve every single ass fucking you get from that Socialist bitch Hillary... Enjoy the blunt trama..
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09.06.05 - 12:28 am | #
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amen brother. can i get a witness!
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09.06.05 - 12:35 am | #
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LOKI
Honduras Training and advising of Contra rebels
Grenada Operation Urgent Fury 1983
Panama Operation Just Cause 1989
2003-2004 PSD in and around Bagdad
Don’t tell me about taking fire son. I was lock and cocked when you were still an itch in your daddy’s pants.
Go ahead and post your email. You can find me in Arizona. Your move hero.
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Krieger - So I may assume you're one of the fat Blackwater guys I saw running around the Burger King at BIAP? Don't tell me shit about anything - I've had more close calls flying AH-1s in the 'Corps than all your so-called 'taking fire' put together. You can reach me at Loki_in_Asgard@Hotmail.com. I'm in SoCal, so it shouldn't be too hard to arrange... Bring your fucking lunch.
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John, I think we quit sugar coating things and pussy-footing around with words about a thousand American military deaths ago -- tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilian deaths ago -- sometime around the time we realized there weren't any honest news sources for us any longer -- and certainly most recently with the third-world-country suffering here at home and thousands of American civilian deaths (completely avoidable) and the loss of a large, important, American city under water(completely avoidable). The gloves are off and Steve sums most of it all up very well.
The U.N. is now covered/soon to be conrolled by Bolton and the supreme court and the joke of our court system is about to be headed by Roberts. Anyone else see the ducks lining up?? How is this happening right in front of our faces across the world??? Mindboggling. No wonder why Bush has the constant smurk and smugness. They have us by the balls.
Sugar coated, or graphic, the bottom line is we're screwed. Everyone's asleep. SOMETHING needs to wake people up before it's too late!!!
The entire hand-picked bunch of best buddies from the drinking days, ass-kissing, corrupt as hell, not qualified whatsoever "officials" from the government administration are FUCKING UP John. We don't have any voices for the people, no Congress, no Senate. It's all a package deal and we aren't rich enough to matter, or show up on the "I care" agenda. We should be good little working slaves and just get a second job, so we can pay our bills and taxes, to make the politicians, oil and utility companies, CEOs, and lazy, fat-ass stock holders happy and richER.
We can go to the polls to try to change things, but we in Florida and Ohio know how that doesn't work. Been there done that. Haven't read a word about anything to do with the illegal and corrupt voting system changing either. Guess I'll stay home next election and save my prescious gas. Yep, we're pretty fucked John and we're pretty angry.
Try waving good-bye to your own prescious child, knowing what they're going to be doing....and why....in Iraq. Knowing what they went through the first time. He's never voiced a negative opinion about going back either, I'm so proud of him. He has never seen or heard anything but support from me, never will, but I'm going to have a complete breakdown when I leave the hangar this time and he's out of sight....God Bless our Troops.
A Soldier's Mom
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one think i dont get about all this!!....
it's like everyone is blaming Bush for the angry terrorists in the world....
blaming him for what has happened with the New Orleans
blaming hiim for the angry in your hearts, the achole in your hands and the drugs in your system!
WE CREATED THIS PROBLEM! everyone in this whole earth! soo what then you sit on our hands and do nothing! hah! what! sit here behind of expensive computers and drink our coke and eat our macdonalds! your'll all whinging about how YOUR life isnt better.. or how its getting worst WHEN! a whole bucket load of people wont eat to night! are you gonna blame bush for that aswell!
you all can sit around blaming every bastard in this world, untill the cows come home! BUT im telling you this UNTILL! you take a look at yourselfs and the effect YOUR actions are having!
....guess what!
- IRAN will happen again!
- taxs will rise... AGAIN
- and you will wake up next to someone you dont love! and get some shit disease and more mental problems
AGAIN!
wake up neo......
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I read the first 100 comments or so, and I can't stand it any longer. You actually believe that NOW the rest of the world sees the US for what it is ? Even now, you whine about AMERICAN lives lost, AMERICANS being hungry.
For years you kill innocents, your soldiers torture and rape, villages are annihilated, and NOW the indifference of your government towards humanity shines on you. Just keep on wondering why the rest of the world hates you....
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I suppose I would take this blog more seriously if "fuck" wasn't used as punctuation. Can't you think of a more intelligent way to get your point across? It's a shame that instead of using facts to support your anger, you simply resort to profane attacks. I'm disappointed.
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dont worry
ALbania is going to help you
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I suppose I would take this blog more seriously if "fuck" wasn't used as punctuation. Can't you think of a more intelligent way to get your point across? It's a shame that instead of using facts to support your anger, you simply resort to profane attacks. I'm disappointed.
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Fuck you, Marianne! And you're fucktard understanding of the profane.
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You're full of shit you liberal ass.
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wow... look at the comment post rise...
nice post man!
I disagree with a few little notes, and you swore way to damn much; but it's got spirit thats for sure :P
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LOL,
What a load of crap. Those people were warned 5 days to get out. Yes, some of them could not get out for one reason or another. But you blame the administration?
Try blaming the people who are robbing and raping each other, shooting anything and everyone they feel like. The Police officers (who have NOTHING to do with Bush) who have given up and walked away.
You want to blame someone, blame those nutcases who, instead of banding together and trying to help each other, are roaming like packs of wild dogs and doing nothing but causing more mayhem and destruction.
It's not that Bush doesn't care about black people, he just doesn't care about people who won't and can't care for each other.
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Ah, Almost forgot.
You seem to think that Democrats are far more intelligent and more compassionate and more ultruistic... lets take a look at Sean Penn's recent escapade in New Orleans...
He went down there with a boat, his entourage, and his PERSONAL PHOTOGRAPHER, intending on sailing around and "helping anyway he can". Personal photographer.. yes, I can clearly see he was there solely to help people.
Oh, and on the note of intelligence, the man forgot to check his boat for leaks and to make sure the engine was in working order... needless to say, he was wildly trying to bucket out water with a red plastic cup while everyone else used oars to try to get back to dry ground.
Just goes to show, there are self-centered idiots on both sides.
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Fuckin a, b, and C! Well put. but your language, young man, would have the morally correct right, holier than thou, blinded by the bush, heartless, mis-guided assholes shalin' in their loafers. they'll continue to do what they do...in the name of JESUS! wwjd? he would haved "saved" 10,000 souls. btw, if greenwich, ct gets hit, watch as the whole town gets airlifted within 24 hrs! peace. impeach this prick NOW!
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http://wolfblitzer.ytmnd.com/
This one's pretty good.
Brilliant post, Steve.
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"Tax cuts kill."
Fantastic phrase to frame what happened this week.
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I bet that if it were a bunch of rich people dying down in NO, you all would not even pick up that cause. It's shameful that you all measure the worth of a human by how successful they are...or in your case...however more UNsuccessful they are that is how much more worth they have. THAT is true conceit.
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Thank you for speaking loudly for all of us Bush-Haters. We need to stop talking and take over the white house...NOW.
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Sean Penn had no photographer with him. There was an eyewitness acount on a blog somewhere last night describing how Sean worked his ass off to save people, diving into that sludge to save an old woman who fell in. Don't lie.
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I wouldn't credit George Bush with doing any good for our country or the world for that matter, but then I wouldn't blame him for things that are beyond his comprehension. His taxcuts probably indirectly hurt many millions of us just slightly and a few million much more so while throwing what is small change to the people who don't need it. His War on Terror might be a good idea if he could just figure out how and where to fight it. But no matter how much his politics ultimately make him a liar, cheat and thief, you can't blame him for what the area governors, state police and regional national guard didn't do in time. Having checked many sources, it seems only the mayors, local police, US Coast Guard and the media handled the grand emergency hurricane Katrina created as if they understood its magnitude.
Perhaps if we could have found some way of holding Egypt and Saudi Arabia accountable for 9/11 since it was their citizens exclusively that executed that tragedy on the world, we wouldn't (some of us) feel the need to "go get `em" and encourage our president to bring us to war in Afghanistan. That would have been enough though, since we couldn't really blame all the Saudis and Egyptians for what 19 of them did.
So here we are in Afghanistan; that should have been enough for our great leader to start establishing "democracy" in a part of the world that really needs it. The Taliban treated girls and ladies as either slaves or whores. Only Pakistan recognized them as a legitimate government. I was never there, but it reads like a story about organized crime taking over the culture. But cutting a deal with Pakistan to get in there was unnecessary.
And then Iraq: most classes of people surely would take our american lifestyle over their own if they understood it, but removing Saddam, a secular dictator, and the baath party, that had things in order, was counterproductive. Now our military is surrounded by ticked off militant muslims (not all of them) sitting next to Iran? Who does this help, if anyone. We should have stuck with Afghanistan as our middle east base and we would have improved their lives more by now. There weren't as many strong factions in Afghanistan before we invaded so we'd have less to deal with than in Iraq (Sunnis, Kurds, Shiites). The real problem is that despite increasing scientific evidence to the contrary, people are still basing and justifying there behavior from Theism and books written before their current language evolved. My point: if there's any truth to the various Holy books, it must have largely been lost in translations, since their followers all believe they are the chosen ones, yet they can't agree on their interpretations of the books. I guess what I am saying about all christians, jews and muslims is 3rd GRADE IS OVER, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE BALOGNA. If you could just follow one of your simpler rules: Do Unto Others, then I wouldn't have to spend most of my life figuring out which of you are liars, which of you are hypocrites, and whi is simply ignorant.
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http://www.cityofno.com/portal.a...tal=46&
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Krieger - still waiting for a response..! Or did your medication finally kick in??
Mooney - nice name! really adds to your credibility..ha-ha-ha!
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"feasting on dead nigger?" Of all the low, sleazy, crass, ignorant things to say in any context for any reason. Express yourself much? How old is Steve? 12?
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I'm sympathetic to Steve's rant and agree that FEMA screwed the pooch, but there's a nagging question about local responsibilities that scares the heck out of me. I want to run down to the city council meeting and ask about food and water supplies. For a city the size of NOLA, why were there no emergency supply stocks inside the city?
I'm not talking personalities here, political parties or intending to blame anyone. I really want to know if in the era of possible terror attacks if our cities have local stockpiles of food and water along with local ad hoc communications equipment.
I think what I'm getting out of the results from Katrina is that we relied upon the Feds, and we shouldn't have. Supplies and communications capability shouldn't be shipped in after the fact. Those resources should be owned by local authorities. Now, this means that we need to rethink where our taxes are going. Instead of paying the Feds money for security and disaster relief. We should keep that money local, and have experts to manage it locally as the Feds can't do the job.
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Based on what I've seen working on the response teams here in California, I think mobile jones is absolutely correct. Or at least local resources should be greatly increased to get through the first 7 days or so...
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Thank you for illustrating once again the total inability of the far left to engage in intelligent, reasoned debate, and for illustrating the truth of Zell Miller's words in "A National Party No More: The Conscience of a Conservative Democrat." Not incidentally, he's the only Democrat I have ever, or likely will ever, vote for.
BTW, George W. Bush's IQ is about the same as, if not slightly higher than, that of John Kerry, as deduced by examining their college grades and standardized tests administered to all officer candidates in the US Navy and the Air National Guard. They're both in the 130-135 range, or intelligent enough for membership in Mensa.
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A Georgian who is a member of Mensa and the Top One Percent Society (TOPS)
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If GW is so smart, why does he sound so stupid. He can barely speak 2 sentences ...he needs a teleprompter for everything. How can he lie so completely unambiguously. Isn't that impressive to these right wing apologists. "No-one could have foreseen that the levees would be breeched"...total falsehood."No-one could have foreseen that terrorists would use airplanes as weapons"...total falsehood."we had to invade Iraq because Saddam Hussain would not let the UN inspectors in"...colossal falsehood.It is not simply that I hate Bush because he is a rightwing extreme ideologue.It is because I hate the lying and the disastrous consequences of his unbelievably inept policies. He and his neocons are destroying the America that I love.....why do his supporters not see what to me is a blatant danger to all of us....including his blind followers.
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Steve, I am sitting at my computer cheering you on like a young school girl would at a football game!
Katrina made landfall in the early morning of Aug 29th 2005
Here is proof that the GOV of LA Sent a letter on Aug 28, 2005 to The President, The White House, Washington, DC. To the Regional Director of Fema in Texas.
ACTUAL DOCUMENT http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaste...f%
20Request.pdf
Here is where you find this document - http://gov.louisiana.gov/
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Hey fellow disenfranchised...I was trolling this blog and thought I would put my two cents in...or better something to think about. This is an actual bill that went through congress. It makes me feel verrrrry uncomfortable to know that this kind of thing could not only be forseen, but ORCHESTRATED....perhaps PERPETRATED...The things that go on behind the scenes of our government are very disturbing. I couldnt get a URL, so I just posted the whole thing...hope nobody minds. For the layperson, this is a bill that pretty much proves that we have the technology to modify weather. So now the apes have forged the metal into a gun barrel...what will they do with it? I would like to know what everyone thinks about this.
~Cleatus
Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Authorization Act of 2005 (Introduced in Senate)
S 517 IS
109th CONGRESS
1st Session
S . 517
To establish the Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
March 3, 2005
Mrs. HUTCHISON introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation
A BILL
To establish the Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Authorization Act of 2005'.
SEC. 2. PURPOSE.
It is the purpose of this Act to develop and implement a comprehensive and coordinated national weather modification policy and a national cooperative Federal and State program of weather modification research and development.
SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.
In this Act:
(1) BOARD- The term `Board' means the Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board.
(2) EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR- The term `Executive Director' means the Executive Director of the Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board.
(3) RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT- The term `research and development' means theoretical analysis, exploration, experimentation, and the extension of investigative findings and theories of scientific or technical nature into practical application for experimental and demonstration purposes, including the experimental production and testing of models, devices, equipment, materials, and processes.
(4) WEATHER MODIFICATION- The term `weather modification' means changing or controlling, or attempting to change or control, by artificial methods the natural development of atmospheric cloud forms or precipitation forms which occur in the troposphere.
SEC. 4. WEATHER MODIFICATION ADVISORY AND RESEARCH BOARD ESTABLISHED.
(a) IN GENERAL- There is established in the Department of Commerce the Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board.
(b) MEMBERSHIP-
(1) IN GENERAL- The Board shall consist of 11 members appointed by the Secretary of Commerce, of whom--
(A) at least 1 shall be a representative of the American Meteorological Society;
(B) at least 1 shall be a representative of the American Society of Civil Engineers;
(C) at least 1 shall be a representative of the National Academy of Sciences;
(D) at least 1 shall be a representative of the National Center for Atmospheric Research of the National Science Foundation;
(E) at least 2 shall be representatives of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration of the Department of Commerce;
(F) at least 1 shall be a representative of institutions of higher education or research institutes; and
(G) at least 1 shall be a representative of a State that is currently supporting operational weather modification projects.
(2) TENURE- A member of the Board serves at the pleasure of the Secretary of Commerce.
(3) VACANCIES- Any vacancy on the Board shall be filled in the same manner as the original appointment.
(b) ADVISORY COMMITTEES- The Board may establish advisory committees to advise the Board and to make recommendations to the Board concerning legislation, policies, administration, research, and other matters.
(c) INITIAL MEETING- Not later than 30 days after the date on which all members of the Board have been appointed, the Board shall hold its first meeting.
(d) MEETINGS- The Board shall meet at the call of the Chair.
(e) QUORUM- A majority of the members of the Board shall constitute a quorum, but a lesser number of members may hold hearings.
(f) CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR- The Board shall select a Chair and Vice Chair from among its members.
SEC. 5. DUTIES OF THE BOARD.
(a) PROMOTION OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT- In order to assist in expanding the theoretical and practical knowledge of weather modification, the Board shall promote and fund research and development, studies, and investigations with respect to--
(1) improved forecast and decision-making technologies for weather modification operations, including tailored computer workstations and software and new observation systems with remote sensors; and
(2) assessments and evaluations of the efficacy of weather modification, both purposeful (including cloud-seeding operations) and inadvertent (including downwind effects and anthropogenic effects).
(b) FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE- Unless the use of the money is restricted or subject to any limitations provided by law, the Board shall use amounts in the Weather Modification Research and Development Fund--
(1) to pay its expenses in the administration of this Act, and
(2) to provide for research and development with respect to weather modifications by grants to, or contracts or cooperative arrangements, with public or private agencies.
(c) REPORT- The Board shall submit to the Secretary biennially a report on its findings and research results.
SEC. 6. POWERS OF THE BOARD.
(a) STUDIES, INVESTIGATIONS, AND HEARINGS- The Board may make any studies or investigations, obtain any information, and hold any hearings necessary or proper to administer or enforce this Act or any rules or orders issued under this Act.
(b) PERSONNEL- The Board may employ, as provided for in appropriations Acts, an Executive Director and other support staff necessary to perform duties and functions under this Act.
(c) COOPERATION WITH OTHER AGENCIES- The Board may cooperate with public or private agencies to promote the purposes of this Act.
(d) COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS- The Board may enter into cooperative agreements with the head of any department or agency of the United States, an appropriate official of any State or political subdivision of a State, or an appropriate official of any private or public agency or organization for conducting weather modification activities or cloud-seeding operations.
(e) CONDUCT AND CONTRACTS FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT- The Executive Director, with the approval of the Board, may conduct and may contract for research and development activities relating to the purposes of this section.
SEC. 7. COOPERATION WITH THE WEATHER MODIFICATION OPERATIONS AND RESEARCH BOARD.
The heads of the departments and agencies of the United States and the heads of any other public or private agencies and institutions that receive research funds from the United States shall, to the extent possible, give full support and cooperation to the Board and to initiate independent research and development programs that address weather modifications.
SEC. 8. FUNDING.
(a) IN GENERAL- There is established within the Treasury of the United States the Weather Modification Research and Development Fund, which shall consist of amounts appropriated pursuant to subsection (b) or received by the Board under subsection (c).
(b) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There is authorized to be appropriated to the Board for the purposes of carrying out the provisions of this Act $10,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2005 through 2014. Any sums appropriated under this subsection shall remain available, without fiscal year limitation, until expended.
(c) GIFTS- The Board may accept, use, and dispose of gifts or donations of services or property.
SEC. 9. EFFECTIVE DATE.
This Act shall take effect on October 1, 2005.
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With all due respect, Jeff, I have to disagree. I find it hard to believe that you would have access to unadulterated test scores for either candidate...I further find it hard to believe that a man who can not correctly pronounce "nuclear" would fall into the "Mensa material" category. Being a member of Mensa really is not that special... I was offered membership but I thought it might be construed as a license to feel an exaggerated and not completely deserved sense of superiority. His mediocracy is only tantamount to his lack of accountability.
Look at the man's record. Every time he screws up, the conservative republican, bible belt, pro life, right wingers come in to do damage control, sucking up for god knows what reason...(another tax shelter perhaps?) and bash the liberals. I swear, they would defend him no matter what pompous crusade he leads our divided country into. In truth, unless you make a million dollars a year...you are not one of his constituents...and he really does not give a shit about you. He will be in his underground bunker eating popcorn for the last act of this protracted tragedy. I can almost guarantee you won't be there with him.
Back to his intelligence...This man screwed up in every debate he has ever been in. He is not well educated, despite his Yale wall dressing. He has the swagger of a man who has never had to do a damn thing for himself. He relies on his administration for every decision, including the ones that have brought us to this juncture in history. You can go on believing that he is a man of the people, but in truth he only represents the elite, and he would just as soon stand on the bodies of the poor to keep from getting his loafers in the floodwaters of New Orleans.
I would sooner see DAN QUAYLE as president...that is saying a lot. All this idealistic, moral highground, patriotic bullshit is getting old. Wake up and smell the apocalypse.
Don't think I am just directing that at you- that is for all the people who thought this guy was a good idea for America. Just what we need...an American Dynasty to prove that money can buy anything.
~Cleatus
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thanks for that! we did tell them... Ann Richards told them... Mollie Ivins told them... before that sorry fuck was ever installed in the White House! after that they should have been able to figure it out!
untold thousands have died because the bastard wasn't thrown out of office years ago!
but Trent Lott will get his house rebuilt, lawn jockey and all... so guess everything's ok
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And you libs call us conservatives hateful. I also find it amusing that you used the N word yet I don't but morons like you call me racist for voting for a guy with an R next to his name. Keep posting this stuff though then in 06 you guys can cry and whine that you lost again.
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Well, I think us Liberals or whatever you want to call us have a right to be hateful. You lump us all together, just like you lump everything together...in categories, all of us are the same, right? Its the Libs versus the Cons...kind of like the yanks versus the rebs? Well...it isn't quite that clear cut, as you might wish to believe. A lot of us libs don't agree with racial comments made on this post. A lot of us libs are very well educated, well informed. Some of us are not, granted. That is true for both sides of the argument. However, it is hard for me to swallow how many people would choose to be ignorant. We have come to a point in history where we can't afford to be divided politically, and GWB has effectively turned America into a runaway train. Our deficit has spiralled to an unprecedented level. He sent our children and neighbors to fight a war begun under false pretenses, and who gets to pay for that? You and I both. He uses a tactic to keep America afraid, so that we acquiesce to support him rather than giving him what he deserves...an ousting. He cheated his way into the white house, twice, by swinging the vote. It is like having a skinny version of "Boss Hawg" in there. Most of America would rather have someone with some common sense and TRUE moral fiber in his place. He is honestly the worst president in the history of the US. If another republican gets into office in 08, (By the way...a presidential term is four years, which just goes to show the depth of your disinformation,) we will all cry and whine. Because the only people who will be driving to work will be the ones who can afford to pay 6 dollars a gallon for gasoline, and the only jobs there will be will pay 6 dollars an hour. Haven't you felt the strain this administration has brought upon us? If not, You will. Unless you are just another trust fund jock strap. Better hope daddy's pockets are deep enough.
To be succinct, the damage done by his presidency may never be recovered from. You can call it hateful, but I call it frustration. We are a nation at war, but in the end, its going to be guilt by association.
As for morons, I think you need to re-evaluate who you are talking to. The hatefulness stems from calling us names like that, when we are quite evidently more informed than yourself.
Let me know if you need any of that in layperson's terms.
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This is good stuff. I thought everyone outside of my household loved Bush. This is crazy. I can not stand to see the man give a speach. The man is dumb and has no respect for anyone; even white folks. He should have been placed in that Convention Center or Superdome for a night. Let him get a taste of what it is like to be full of shit.
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Joshua "Woulf"
I know your parents are ashamed of you? People like you of this world need to just shut your crazy ass up. Maybe you should talk to someone who was there. Living in human shit for 3-4 days is a wonderful thing? You should be sent out to really live and see what life is all about. You are sad and the Warth of God will be upon you. What you are doing is nasty.
Come for a visit anytime. The Hood welcome people like you.
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Come now, people...we are all Americans...whether we get all our rights or not...everyone is entitled to our opinion, and nobody is obliged to agree...at some point we have to learn to consolidate. Or, we break off into factions and have our little wars.
I think the point here is to be heard, and to read what others write so that maybe- if we aren't too stubborn, we might see another point of view.If you choose not to face the truth, that is on you. We have to all agree that at least we have the right to post our opinions here...if not, why bother? I don't want to hear everyone echoing what I am saying- because frankly I am pretty disillusioned with America at this point.
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THIS WAS MORE ON THE STATE OF LA AND CITY OF N.O. THEN BUSH.
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It's sad that it takes words like this to wake america up to the problems of the nation
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in short, this post had ultimate rock power.
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What this President has done to the Amercian People is barbaric, he is the commander, the god foresaken CHIEF) For petesake he gets off on being the the Commander & Chief. Look Very Close who his parents are! We got Barbara Bush making comments that only a white rich women would say! Dont get me wrong, I am white! What it all boils down to, The UNITED STATES GOVERMENT and LOCAL GOVERMENTS FAILED! No one can disclaim that fact! It time to wake up and smell the roses or soon there will be no roses the way our Goverment is. TIME FOR A CHANGE! Time for the COMMANDER AND CHIEF TO Pack his bags and go sailing down the Mississippi River!
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Hey Krieger - I think you're a lying sack of shit. Not only do I think you're too cowardly to fight in the current war, I doubt you have ever even worn a uniform. But at least send me a message to coordinate a meeting - you have my address. BTW, you should try writing posts without ripping off cheesy movie lines - doesn't make you sound very believable...
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09.07.05 - 11:35 am | #
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Amen I live in Texas Bush country and know what a piece of shit he is.
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I'm actually from Holland. And almost all the dutcies ( I know it's not much :P) think that Bush is a fucking cunt and his foreign politics suck, just wanna back you up here and I hope you guys get a better president in the future to restore order and keep your nation running.
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Sing it, bro! No one has said it better. Isn't the truth a thing of beauty...sets you free and exposes the Incompetent-in-Charge for the souless dry-drunk moron he is. Thanks. I don't feel as alone in the universe after having read your blog...........
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HOLLA!!!
This is what we get for allowing a fake-accented drug-smuggling silver-spooned bith to steal our presidency. twice.
i beleive most...fuck it, all "conspiracy theories" about the Bush family. i have a sick, sick feeling that if, we draft impeachment articles...if we walk up to the white house with pistols drawn he will not leave.
everyone...buy guns, buy water, buy sanitizer, buy food, buy gas if you have a safe place to keep it. we are entering the new world order.
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There comes a time when Americans need to stop seeing government as a problem. The aftermath of Katrina seems like a good God-damn time to do it. Government can and should be a force of good. The conservative agenda over the past two decades (at least) has not resulted in less government (hello, $800 billion deficit in the last 2 years?), just more ineffective government. It's time that SUV-driving Democrats in this country get off their ass and do something about it - quite playing Republican light and lay out a progressive plan for this country.
http://democraticspace.com/blog/...-force-of-good/
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I think the problem is that we have two major "teams" here in America, and one of those teams happens to use any means at their disposal, including lying, cheating, and sabotage to further their political agenda. I do not have an SUV, but I do consider myself a democrat. At least in the capacity that it is the root word of "democracy." If everyone played by the rules, we would not be in this pickle. If everyone played by the rules, GWB would not have ever gotten into office. But with tactics like voter fraud, and disenfranchisement, what faith can we have in the democratic process? Our votes do not count. Down with the electoral college. Down with the moral majority. We are up against a shadow government, and there is just enough of the mask broken that we can see the face underneath. So what are we going to do about it? Vote? Rise up and start a civil war? If anyone has a plan for this country, I would sure like to hear it.
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Don't get me wrong...I am not speculating on how a democratic president would have responded to this emergency. I am speculating on why we have a leader in office who runs our country like a dictatorship, and why he thinks that his America will just go on backing up any old blank check that he writes to his cronies at Halliburton.
To put this in proper perspective...if he donated the tax money he has spent on war (and subsequent aid to the country we just destroyed) to the poor, there would no longer be ANY poor people in the US. $800 billion goes a long way. Instead, let's keep minimum wage at 6 dollars, even though the price of living has damn near doubled across the board.
This is all about greed. It is the "haves" and the "have mores." Screw all the people who are dragged into the grinder and shat out. Bush is going to take every opportunity he can to 1: Make more work for the Carlyle group. 2: Make more work for Halliburton. 3: Deny any wrongdoing on his or on behalf of his administration. 4: Walk away a MUCH richer man, after all the damage has been done and it is someone else's problem. And what makes work for those companies, of which he is involved? war, and disaster. As long as we have a steady flow of crisis, he is collecting the dividends. It is not in his best interest to bring troops home. I think it is safe to say, that we are not safe. We won't be safe while he is in office. But he would be glad to sell us some in$urance...
Okay, I could rant forever about this. I guess I feel strongly that we are being taken for a ride.
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Wow. I can't believe what I have seen on this blog- it's sick.
Cries of sedition, defeatism and revolution. Someone actually said that they want the United States to LOSE in Iraq! I can understand a difference of opinion on issues, and can therefore tolerate the idea of democrats.
But when you talk about imprisoning our leader, you cross the line. When you talk about letting our soldiers lose in Iraq, you cross the line. When you talk about throwing the President out of the White House at the hands of a military dictator and CHEERING while it happens, you cross the line.
You cross the line from responsible citizenship into despicable betrayal. Shame on all of you- exploiting the poor victims of Hurricane Katrina for your senseless rampage against "the shrub."
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Wow. I can't believe what I have seen on this blog- it's sick.
Cries of sedition, defeatism and revolution. Someone actually said that they want the United States to LOSE in Iraq! I can understand a difference of opinion on issues, and can therefore tolerate the idea of democrats.
But when you talk about imprisoning our leader, you cross the line. When you talk about letting our soldiers lose in Iraq, you cross the line. When you talk about throwing the President out of the White House at the hands of a military dictator and CHEERING while it happens, you cross the line.
You cross the line from responsible citizenship into despicable betrayal. Shame on all of you- exploiting the poor victims of Hurricane Katrina for your senseless rampage against "the shrub."
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I love it! Way to get your rant on!! And besides that it is the truth!
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To Jordan-
Who draws the line that we are crossing?
Steal $50, go to jail. Steal $50 million...get elected to office. The problem with most conservatism is that it is fraught with denial. I don't necessarily believe letting our soldiers lose in Iraq is what should happen...but I want to know under what circumstances are we to declare victory? Or is it just going to continue, and continue, and continue...I fear that is the case with this war, and I know I am not alone. When we have destroyed one country completely, we will claim that another country is harboring terrorists, and bomb them without consensus from the people. I defy you to come up with a good reason why we sent so many soldiers to die...we were not threatened by Iraq, in reality or in theory. You think that GWB is not a military dictator? Please.
And what is this bullshit about us crossing the line into betrayal? We can only be responsible citizens if we bend over and spread our ass cheeks like you? I feel no shame. I didn't vote for the prick, either time. I was outraged when he stole the presidency. I am outraged that his supporters blindly follow his directives without questioning his motives. Shame on you, for trying to suggest we suppress our freedom of speech. Can I get an AMEN?
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Cleatus,,,you have the truth and you express it well. Republicans are in denial because it takes courage and inner strength to admit that the man they elected is a complete fraud..a born loser...an inarticulate selfish whiny and vindictive liar. And so is his entire administration.They can't see what seems to me to be a blatantly horrible leader, and the path he is taking us leads to the ruin of our great democracy.
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Thanks Marty...I am glad to know I am not the only one awake about this stuff...I feel like "why do we protect this man, when we would indict another (good) president for getting a blow job?" What is the motive behind taking the voice of the people out of the government? It can only be for capital gain, on the behalf of as few people as possible. That is what we are all in the grip of. Our president, whether we wish to admit it or not, is a capitalist. Republican or not. Corruption can come from either side of the political fence, but it should be addressed in any case, and stripped naked to be seen. Most republicans believe that they have a more important job than someone else, and they spent a lot of money on their education, and so they are entitled to more pay for less work. Competency is not an issue, they have the degree to prove it. We are in the midst of all this chaos, because chaos is PROFITABLE to certain select individuals and organizations. We are all being shafted. I wouldn't be surprised if I got investigated for my opinion. What does that tell us?? That we are in the way of the process behind it. That should not be the position of the people of this country...just my opinion.
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Jordan,
Get used to it buddy. There is a sick group of america haters here who would rather see the U.S. get nuked than see Bush accure any credit for anything good that may result from our policies.
My local paper published my letter to the editor about Cindy Sheehan being a lunatic last week. Today, I get an anonymous letter from some lefty moron who called me a gay coward who should enlist my family to get killed in Iraq for haliburton. Then he asked if I was a veteran. Of course I can't answer, there was no name or return address. Typical. To a Lefty, anonymous hate mail constitutes debate.
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Blue2golf- do you actually believe our policies are going to result in our avoiding a nuclear attack? I don't see how, when past experience tells us that vacation is more important to this president than enemy intelligence. I don't want to think about it, but the realistic side of me thinks that a nuclear attack is pretty much inevitable. We have displayed that we are more concerned about the situation across the globe than the one right here in America. In fact, we created the dangerous world climate we are in by playing both sides of the field and arming third-world countries to use those weapons against us. How many weeks will it take to cut through the red tape to clean that up? And what of those survivors?
At this point, after all of this, most of us would see $2.50 a gallon gas prices as a good thing.
I think Cindy Sheehan has a right to petition to speak to the president. I think she has a right to disagree with the administration policy. You have the right to say Cindy Sheehan is a lunatic. That is the beauty of America.
What kind of credit do you give Bush? What has he done that is good for America? What good has come of our policies? Please elucidate.
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IMHO...Bush is the worst President I have seen in my 45 years. The fact that he has wrapped himself in the flag and shouted 9/11 and used Nazi propaganda tactics (...if anybody questions your motives question their patriotism...)-lied to us about WMD to execute a war... had no exit strategy...turned the other way when Rove outed a CIA operative, and placed a glorified stablehand in FEMA (...and we have all seen how well that has worked out...)should be enough to IMPEACH this bastard.
Love my country.
Have always been a proud American.
Served 6 years with the US Navy.
Still think Bush needs to be escorted to jail with those fashionable silver cuffs.
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JORDAN -
We cannot allow Bush to do any more harm to our country.
"By any means necessary."
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JORDAN -
We cannot allow Bush to do any more harm to our country.
"By any means necessary."
Steve J. |
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At first I was turned off by your language, then I grew up and found there is no other way to describe the total incompetance of this so-called president and his choice for Homeland Security and FEMA Directors. What wonderful credentials they had .. NOT! I'm disgusted by their actions and believe the strongest language to describe it is not only necessary, but required.
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I got news for you though. Unless people get active, go talk to others and make get other candidates into office, it's going to be more of the same. Incompetence that's getting our people killed everywhere. But then again, this is the status quo in Bush's America.
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BTW, I like your blog. I've added you to my links list. Keep up the good work. Thanks.
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Bush just proved what would happen with another 9/11. Dead Americans as far as the nose can smell.
In more than a week of reading outraged reactions to this fucking nightmare that NOLA has turned into, I have yet to hear a more apropriate reaction than the 2 sentances quoted above.
If the media keeps the lid on this pot and prevents the American public from lynching the administration, the rest of the world will know even better what's in store for the next 20 years.
-CanadaNeedsNukes
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Thank you and amen.
I'm putting a link to this piece on my website and i'm e-mailing it to everyone I know. ESPECIALLY those couple of people I know who actually voted for that fucktard Bush.
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Amen.
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Bush hand picked his buddy the stable guy & Co. to head FEMA. Bush hand picked a hundred other best buddies for his clan, without proper experience. Bush started the war in Iraq for oil, profit and world power, starting it before he ever even talked to Congress or the UN about it. Bush ignored the LA state and local pleas for their security and help with the levees these past couple years, especially with the active hurricane seasons. AMPLE warnings were given in plain English the city would be under water easily with just a medium-strength hurricane. Bush answered with a cut to their funding (due to the above mentioned war). Bush carried out the fake photo ops with the two freshly showered women that just happened to be in the neighborhood DAYS after the horror began. Bush had fake distribution sights set up that day too, bringing in food and supplies, which abruptly ended when the last camera was lowered - they were torn down and disappeared promply afterwards. Lordy, I could go on and on.
I feel it was the blame of both the local and state governments, along with FEMA also, but how can people sit here and type about Bush being totally blameless???
This isn't political bashing, this is the fight for our lives and our existance. You people that get caught up in right/left mindsets are dangerous to the rest of us. Can't you see past that at this point?
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Here's the major crux of our situation. We are pretty much strapped in for the ride with this president, who should never have been elected once, let alone twice. He is going to put his cowboy politics to use in every situation. He is going to appoint as many homophobic, racist conservative christians in office as he can, to shape our court systems towards a more right-wing viewpoint. He is going to get as much legislation as he can passed that will allow him to have carte blanche with the taxpayer's pocketbook. He will continue to perpetuate a war...war with any nation, for capital gain, and political indemnity. He figures "who would depose me when our country is at war?" If you ask me, anyone who thinks God is speaking to them or claims that God is working through them should not be holding the highest position in our country. Let him go to church, that is where his belief belongs. Has he ever heard of the separation between church and state? That is the very reason we broke away from England. We have to have someone in office who is not going to let their personal religious beliefs spoil the freedom that we have in America. I find it discomforting that he believes that two thirds of us are going to burn in hell for all eternity. Doesn't anyone else? How many of those poor people in New Orleans is he indifferent about because of that core belief?
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Maybe I am not giving him enough credit. I mean, he was "born again," right? Doesn't that mean he has a clean slate to screw up? I don't know much about it. I think everyone has to have some sort of personal spirituality, but it should not be something that is pushed on anyone else. I think our philosophical and religious differences are the cause of nearly all war. I think that subscription to any religious belief is dangerous, in that it begins to define limits for our consciousness. These limits are the building blocks of our prejudice. When it all boils down, we have to become adept at living in harmony, or we will perish in the world that is becoming increasingly unforgiving. Every action has a reaction, and that is one thing we can measure through experience. How can we possibly hope to survive a cataclysmic event when we can not work together effectively? We have not evolved to a level of consciousness that will end our bigotry and prejudice. This will be our undoing, as a species- we are so focused on hating ourselves that we can't pull it together when our entire Earth is at stake.
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Forgive me for being rude but this is the best way I know how to ask the right whingers where they are at:
How far up you arse does Georges dick have to be before you know you have been fucked?
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I agree with Loki. Krieger and guys like him are cowards. They are typical of the GOP "War Party"--a party of warmongering chickenhawks. Anyone who favors George Bush's war should head to a USA or USMC recruiting office and go Infantry.
(By the way, if it comes to a duke-out,
I'm pulling for Loki. Krieger needs a little attitude adjustment.)
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Preach on, brother! You have nailed it...absolutely nailed it!
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If I had an hour I might be able to try to sort through the illogic of this blogger's pathetic rantings. I mean really, regardless of your political affiliations, these accusations are beyond the pale.
--A citizen of New Orleans
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I have to agree with points Steve made and add a few of my own. I'm 48, unless I missed one I've lived though 8 different presidents. Ford was bad, but he was just a career incompetent. Carter didn't do much, but at least he didn't have that shiteating snear on his face. America needs to face the fact that "they" elected a lazy, worthless, cowardly, less then intelligent spolied Momma's boy for president.
Look at the Death Toll since he's been in office.
9/11 -1,100 plus
Date Total In Combat
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 1895 1508
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03) (the list) 1758 1400
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 1428 1204
Since Handover (6/29/04): 1029 875
Since Election (1/31/05): 463 402
American Wounded Official Estimated
Total Wounded: 14362 15000 - 42500
Latest Fatality September 7th, 2005
Now, throw in the victims of Katrina. He really has done more for the Isamic Jihad then bin Laden.
One final point, the person in a previous post mentioned everyone pointing fingers at the Federal Goverment, doesn't FEMA exist solely for the purpose of providing relief and aid in times of emergency? This is their ONE SOLE Function, and because of a owed favor you get yet another incompetent that has cost thousands of human and animal lives.
Thank you for letting me vent.
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Incidentally- unfinished flaccid retorts aside...did anyone actually look at my first post? It is a bill that went through congress defining the rules and regulations of WEATHER MODIFICATION. This is no longer science fiction, people. Is this a technology that everyone is going to get their hands in? No way. So that leaves who? Who is messing with the weather? Who is testing this technology, with possibly devastating results? Is it so impossible to believe that this catastrophe could have in fact been man-made, or helped along?
We need to all wake up to the fact that some serious James Bond's nemesis type shit is going down in our country...and all across the world.
Sure, I think that I speculate a lot. I also think that the truth, what we DON'T know...would cause a revolution if it became public knowledge.
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Your rant is so cathartic for me, thanks very much for it. All the same, wading around in the blogosphere in Katrina's aftermath I feel horribly depressed at what different conclusions left and right leaning people are coming to. It feels like civil war is just around the corner (and I don't know how to shoot a gun!).
It's not that people don't have a right to their anger, but after the anger subsides we gotta get working on a *real* discussion between liberals and conservatives about what protection our laws really provides (or should provide) American citizens. Do we get a safety net that includes extra-safe levees (or, out in Calif, extra-safe building codes), or don't we? If the govt. fails to protect us, what do they owe us? (I do wonder whether libertarians are as likely to call the fire dept. - and expect speedy rescue and protection of their property - as liberals; but I digress.)
Anyway, I feel as if the middle class (the only majority group that could possibly get anything done to make this country better) is fracturing into so many hate-edged splinters. We have to do better; our country is too big, too mighty, too dangerous to the world, for us to let our passions rule us like this. That line from Yeats's "The Second Coming" just keeps coming back to me - you know the one I mean, the one about passionate intensity.
We have to get smarter, not just more angry - all of us.
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lol, yea right, its all the federal govts fault, lol.
1. individual responsibility
2. local authority
3. state authority
4. federal authority
thats how it works in this country gentlemen. i am sure the picture of 2000 buses floating in a parking lot in NO doesnt make the mayor feel good, just as the Superdome chaos makes FEMA squeemish. But it doesnt matter the party, you bourgeoisie bloggers, its called THE GOVT, and all they do is fuck things up- its a bureaucracy by nature.
You honestly think all the little gnomes and gremlins within FEMA would have done a better job with *name your favorite leader* in office? evian spelled backwards is naive, and i think maybe you've been drinking too much of it. or maybe its the Bush roast thats made your brains sick. Dont you see, they are ALL a bunch of imbeciles and morons. How could you ever trust them to do anything except screw the pooch?
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FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!
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blue2golf :
I asked before and I'll say it again - I've served in Iraq, Have you? Have you 'ever' served in uniform? If not, why the fuck not? Are you a coward, afraid to fight in a war you support (just like Bush and Vietnam)? I've risked my life multiple times for my country - have you ever put YOUR ass on the line? If not, I'd say that puts me WAY ahead of people like you in the "patriotism" department. It's precisely BECAUSE I love America that I hate what Bush is doing to it - I seem to love my country more than all you chickenhawk republicans that are afraid to serve.
Thoreau:
I agree that ALL (or 98% of them) of the politicians suck (both parties). But yes, I do think that a democrat administration would have screwed up less than this one. I feel the GOP is too 'evil' to be in charge, and the Dems too spineless. So as the writers on South Park wisely observed in a recent episode, we always end up having to chose between a "giant douche" and a "turd sandwich". I would love just once in my life to be able to vote for a candidate I really was enthusiatic about - hasn't happened yet. Just get to vote for the lesser of two evils, which for most of my life has been the democrats (unfortunately)...
D (short for "duh"..?) :
Did you think up that come back all by yourself...?
Loki |
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Go read some Mark Steyn you bunch of muppets.
PS Chris Hitchens is the new George Orwell dumb fucks.
John |
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Why haven't you uneducated worthless fake politic 'bloggers' commited a mass suicide yet? Your opinions are about as valued as roadkill, seriously.. lemme break it down so your tiny brains can understand.. SHUT THE FUCK UP. Thank you.
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John,
Paul Cook:
Shouldn't you get back to fucking your mother? If you make her wait, she's going to charge you more...
Loki |
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Power to the victims of New Orleans
With the poor gone, developers are planning to gentrify the city
Naomi Klein
Friday September 9, 2005
The Guardian
On September 4, six days after Katrina hit, I saw the first glimmer of hope. "The people of New Orleans will not go quietly into the night, scattering across this country to become homeless in countless other cities while federal relief funds are funnelled into rebuilding casinos, hotels, chemical plants. We will not stand idly by while this disaster is used as an opportunity to replace our homes with newly built mansions and condos in a gentrified New Orleans."
article continues: http://www.guardian.co.uk/
katrin...1566200,00.html
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Steve Gillard thank you so much for writing that. you have said it man.
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09.09.05 - 9:59 am | #
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Amen and well said!
I'll be quoting this and forwarding the link to it for weeks.
Keep up the good work!
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it's a shame that Katrina didn't wipe out ALL of the bible belt, then maybe they'd understand that God doesn't like republicans.
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Well this will probably be my last post, so I will aim it at the quippy little one-liners that keep coming in from the right.
First of all- I would bet my bottom dollar that all of you are just loving the smell of GWB's nut sack. Personally, I don't care if you toss his salad. You are going to be just as abandoned and forlorn as all the rest of us rape victims in the end, after whining and crying that you were loyal supporters. And it is evident that you are about of the same mentality as our esteemed president, because you can't formulate a coherent thought or express it if it did appear in your underdeveloped mind. This is your last warning from me...Wake up! King George the second does not give two shits about you. In fact, he makes a lot more money from his private dealings with Saudi Arabia than he does being president here. He is playing both sides, and we are paying for it. The sins of the father are visited on the son. So get your pseudo-conservative heads out of your asses. (I say pseudo, because more than half of you just jumped on the flag-waving bandwagon and you have no clue what the issues are or where you really stand.) You support a president who LIED and CHEATED to get into office, and he LIED and CHEATED to get re-elected. So look forward to another three years of disaster, because DISASTER IS PROFITABLE TO THAT PRICK. Believe it or don't, it's nothing to me. At least I am awake, and a lot of people are awake about what is going on here. And if you want to talk shit on the liberals, at least come with your catapult loaded. These retarded one-liners are pathetic. Just go on sippin' your kentucky gentleman and fucking your sister. And wipe that George Bush "dirty sanchez" off your lip, its stinky and unbecoming.
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for Holdie Lewie & Steve dont worry guys there will ALWAYS be some retarded fuckwad who believes whatever orwellian doublespeak bullshit that prick (or the guy who is really running shit- the traitorus faggot Karl Rove) desires to say to the press. Changing those peoples minds is like pissin in the ocean trying to turn it yellow- a pointless endeavor. I particularly liked the comment by the little pricks mommy Barbara Bush that those people in NOLA who were moved by the feds out of there had probably never eaten so good in there lives and were probably better off than they were before. At least thats what I think she said I didn't catch it all, maybe she was talking about the gators..................
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Wow. You really are a retard. It's idiotic shit like this that will ALWAYS keep you from understanding why you've lost 8 of the last 10 presidential elections....
SCOREBOARD!!
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I'm not a rocket scientist, but......
AMPLE warnings about the 9/11 plans were received by our government, from a zillion sources, for months leading up to the attacks. I don't think I need to post any links about that, or worry that is disputed.
Bush, Cheney and whomever else decided it would be a good idea to hold a major exercise, never done before, personally conducted by the Vice President of the United States - 1) in NYC; 2) on the morning of 9/11; 3) during the exact time period the actual events happened; 4) jamming radars with "mock" planes and maintaining stand-down orders, thus allowing the planes to fly for over an hour all over the Northeast (something that baffled me the most immediately following the attacks); and 5) the exercise scenerio was ...... hijacked commercial airlines flying into the World Trade Center buildings.
www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html
http://www.communitycurrency.org...rg/
RisesUp.html
After 3 buildings collapse that shouldn't have:
www.serendipity.li/wtc5.htm
http://www.vestigialconscience.c...om/
WTC7_Dud.txt
(you can Google on this and find a zillion other sources)
The debris is rushed away and recycled immediately, preventing any investigation (criminal or structural). NOTE for a commen sense check here: They also claimed those indestructable black boxes were never found, but yet flamable paper identification of the "hijackers" were found. Please.
www.wanttoknow.info/011225nytimes
www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/911-Vanishing-
Airliner5dec04.htm
skolnicksreport.com/ootar14.html
Former German Defense Minister, Andreas Von Buelow, was interviewed on radio and here is a transcript, which supports a lot of the above.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
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Here are a ton of links to support a lot of the above and more.
http://www.rense.com/general22/911.htm
Okay, so we pretty much have a good idea it wasn't an accident or a surprise. Please Google on any of the topics above and read a zillion other sources about it if you need to, but I'm pretty much convinced. Okay, so the government tells us to give to the Red Cross.
http://la.indymedia.org/news/200...5/09/
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www.give.org/news/redcross.asp
http://www.charitywatch.org/hott...s/
congress.html
http://prisonplanet.com/
articles...905redcross.htm
http://www.whale.to/b/
red_cross_...oss_racket.html
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/...earing/?
related
Some Iraq CIA analysts and intelligence officials felt pressure from Cheney, his Chief of Staff, Wolfowitz, Tenet and others to find information or write reports in a way that would help the administration make the case that going into Iraq was urgent. While personal visits to CIA HQ by a VP are not unprecedented, they are unusual. Cheney made multiple visits.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac...4&
notFound=true
http://www.alternet.org/story/16283/
Then there are the now famous Downing Street Memos, never once disputed by Blair or Bush as not being fact. I repeat, neither one of them has ever tried to say they were fake, forged, incorrect, or otherwise not true.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
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http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/
So Bush & Co. lie and defy everyone and we go to war anyways. (This includes bold face documented lies to Congress and the UN on oh, so many things). Going to war with Afghanistan was accepted as tied to 9/11, I think mostly because of the terror training camps and the urge to kick "someone's" ass. (NOTE for another common sense check, however: Nobody ever directly tied any of the "hijackers" to Afghanistan. Also, UBL never claimed responsibility, which he surely would have.) Also, the "reasons" for the war in Iraq have changed no less than a dozen times and everyone seems okay with that. Press on.
Before Bush, let me cover Cheney's gain quickly. It is, of course, Halliburton. Halliburton, an oil field supply/energy corporation, did business with Iraq during his time as CEO, which he lied and said he didn't.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/.../24/
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Cheney said he had severed all ties with Halliburton upon taking the VP slot. OOOpsy again.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/
2...ain575356.shtml
Well, hell, this one sums him up pretty good.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bi...sa/dick-cheney/
Here's a good one for those uninformed people who have been so holier-than-thow about the word "fuck". Pffffft.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...-
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And this is somewhat satisfying to all who would have loved to be the one to say it. This was a flood victim, an emergency room physician, who was pushed just a little bit too far and happened to be able to go tell My Cheney personally what he thought of him, while Cheney toured near his destroyed home. "Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney". Listen to AFTER he says it.....sure sounds like a pretty forceful removal....is there any footage of what happened to the poor doctor for voicing his freedom of speech?
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail...4?htv=12&
htv=12
This tells what lead up to the doctor's desires to go say that.
http://opednews.com/articles/
ope..._who_told_o.htm
Then there's the president. Everyone has read a ton on him. Won't even go there....but here's something very important you may not know about the Bush family. Of all the links on here, this is the MOST IMPORTANT, in my opinion. I had never heard about this about our president's grandfather and greatgrandfather. Sorta splains some things I think. It's sorta long, but important, please listen to this.
http://www.zippyvideos.com/
99229...9271839185.html
Now...........following that and keeping that in mind, this one was posted this week. This is VERY spooky. A FEMA detainment camp in Oklahoma, complete with photo's and firsthand account.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/fo...forum/
fema.html
Then I could go on and on about Halliburton being the only people on the face of the earth who can do anything as they monopolize things here at home too. Google on them getting the contract to clean up after the hurricane.
Keep reading the blogs, it's the only info we get these days, as we know. An excellent link to put in your favorites is WhatReallyHappened.com - it's a good source of news, linked in from all sources.
Now, I don't believe every word of every link I put in here. But 2 + 2 equals 4 people.
We need to wake up people. Hopefully this will help somewhat. Sorry so long, but there's a LOT of bullshit going on while we sleep. Stop with the left/right crapola, we need to unite as common American's being flushed down the toilet. Whatever your social or political status is....you'll eventually be part of the food chain.
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Right on. I agree with the senator.
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I almost chuckled at that Eli. Great response.
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I couldn't have said it better! BRAVO!
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As much as I can't stand Bush, the way liberals are reacting - myself included - is making us look like we don't care about the thousands dead from Katrina, but instead we look like we are just using this as opportunity to say "Told Ya So" to the conservatives of America. I'm NOT saying I disagree at all with your post, (to the contrary, I agree very much) I just think that tact could be a wonderful thing we could all benefit from.
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P.S. Thanks for the "Escape from New Orleans" It's exactly as my friends and I have been thinking since we saw the first footage.
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Awesome post. Hold on to your anger, people. Bush and his support network have to be demolished for driving this country into a ditch.
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I got this through an email at work, and all I can say is THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!
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I just came and had a cigarette.. wow.. now that's calling them as you see them, great post!
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What a bunch of Muck! What bullshit! And you idiots out there feeding into Steve’s garbage? Do some damn research, man! Typical damn Democrat. All talk, all conjecture, all Bullshit. And Steve, you believe your own spew of lies too, don't you? Makes me sick to hear idiots like you talking shit as if you have some special source of information that nobody else has. You don't, Steve. In fact, after reading your botched up, vulgar script of lies, I fully understand that not only do you not have "inside" information, you don't have information! You are nothing more than a disconnected mouth on cheap batteries. Go to church, man. You need to be cleansed of your anger that obviously stems from childhood problems, and you simply don't know how to properly deal with it. Damn! There is nothing that can please you people. Nothing! Taxes cut, check in your pocket? Not happy. I bet you spent your damn extra tax money, didn't you, Steve? Uh huh, yeah, Arabs bust on our turf, we hunt them down and liberate Afghanistan and bring her into the 20th century? Not happy. Liberate Iraq from a dictator, a self proclaimed murderer? Not happy. Kill the murdering, raping, sons of the murdering dictator? Oh… not happy. Stock markets doing well? Not happy. Prices of goods dirt cheap? Not happy. Why don't you do something productive, Steve, like figure out a way to stop the illegal Mexicans from dropping babies left and right and saturating our economy with people looking for handouts, while we good black and white, legal, Americans pay the tab, huh? Yeah, do something, Steve! Do something and shut the fuck up!
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Erik, You are a total pr..k and a moron. Not one sentiment you blathered is factual. Afghanistan is a disaster because Bush left to invade Iraq. We didn't complete the job ...a job which ALL LIBERALS agreed with.Iraq is a catastrophe FOR US,,,for our military, for our power and prestige which Bush has destroyed. It has cost 200-300 BILLION dollars. Why should we care if Saddam was a dictator. Is it our job to be the policeman of the world. Why do we need to give democracy and bleed our blood for those maniacs who hate our guts.How can any true Republican swupport this bullshit.
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yes, detest bush, but FOR CHRIST'S SAKE ELECTED HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!
shit!!
i'm going to go masturbate.
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Hilary voted for this moronic war...and has not admitted her stupidity. I will not contribute a cent to her campaign...for senator. Why does mentioning Hillary make you want to masturbate..you sick pervert.
Marty
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Marty,
Ok, finally! Someone with a solid source of information. So Marty, elaborate! You said,"Afghanistan is a disaster because Bush left to invade Iraq". Yup, that sums it all up and Spoken like a true Left Winger. Seriously, set me straight, man! Well here, let me help you out with some, uh, facts: The UN expects 4 million children to enroll for the new school year that begins next March (Females included). Today, 3 million are enrolled, Marty! Most Afghan children didn't even attend school in 2001. Afghanistan has, with our (U.S.) assistance: Provided more than 15 million textbooks, Provided 30,000 instructional kits, Offered salary supplements to more than 50,000 teachers, Rebuilt or rehabilitated more than 250 schools, Provided refresher training to 1,360 teachers and trained 60 teacher trainers. Oh, what's this? Empowering Women? Do I dare go here? Afghanistan is dedicated to improving the lives of women. Does that mean anything to you? Just curious. Oh, and who do you think gave Afghanistan $8 million just for women's resource centers and $80 million to help Afghanistan rehabilitate the main road connecting Kabul, Kandahar, and Herat, Clinton? Don't want to get to wordy here with facts, Marty, but since April 2002, Afghanistan has: Improved access to primary health care for 2 million Afghans living in rural areas
Vaccinated 4.3 million children against measles and treated 700,000 cases of malaria, Rebuilt 72 hospitals, clinics and women's healthcare centers
Planned to build or rehabilitate 550 health care centers, Provided medicine and equipment to 68 clinics
Provided 120,000 insecticide-treated bed nets, Revitalized the polio eradication program's surveillance system, Revised the national curriculum for midwives... I can go on and on about Afghanistan and how much better off they are since the fall of the Taliban. Marty, seriously, don't fall victim to the BS, because if you are making unsupported statement like the one you made above, you are not hearing the truth; the real truth. And yes, if we are the only country that has the balls to stand up for freedom on this planet (the one we are all stuck on) then yes. We owe it to our fellow humans, ourselves and our children.
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Beautifully wrought rage..
Fire up the Choir..
But also, consider Propaganda
http://www.alienjazzcat.com/lore...ry050916-
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alienjazzcat |
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Erik, Thanks for an amazingly detailed defense of the Bush Afghan policy.Where is your source for this data. It sounds awfully much that this is a government spinjob, but if it is true and factual, then I applaud all such progress.
Remember that ALL Americans supported the attack on the Taliban...all Democrats in congress except 1(99%)supported Bush. I did, and was fully in agreement to go after the bastards who attacked us.
BUT....Bush started pulling resources from Aghanistan to be used in Iraq within 4 mos.,secretly transferred 400 million dollars for an Iraq invasion without congressional knowledge or approval, began stepped up bombing in Iraq with the Brits in an attempt to provoke Saddam, and began the propaganda campaign for his Iraq adventure( have you read the Downing Street memos)....before we had finished the job in Afghanistan.
He failed to catch Osama and the upper echalon of al Quaeda at ToraBora...a claim by Kerry(like many) that was true..and confirmed by the CIA officer in charge ON THE GROUND at ToraBora.The people who attacked us are still free...what happened to smoking him out,...dead or alive...now Bush says it isn't important to catch him.Osama, Wahziri,Mullah Omar.....all are free and using continued Taliban fighters to destabilize the Kabul regime.
Aghanistan is in the control of warlords ....except in Kabul, where Karzi is protected by a band of m16 toting mercenaries, and the Nato troops give calm and a semblance of security...yes the Germans and the French to the city.Even then there are assasinations and bombings. This is the identical position the Soviets were in before they were forced out.There is no Afghan national army, and the recruited elements are no match for the narcoterrorists and warlords....unless the 10th mountain is there.We have lost the opportunity to use overwhelming force with the troops that were stupidly sent into Iraq, and disarm the warlord militias, and create a truly national system. There is a token force there now, totally ineffective to do this job....and we just recently lost a seal team...bold warriors all, with little media attention.
Heroin supplies...poppy cultivation is at a record high.....how can this be a success. It is US policy to interdict and destroy drug production and sales around the globe....the war on drugs.These warlords are making billions....and we allow it. This is a tremendous failure, and directly the result ot the stupid withdrawal of forces from Afghanistan. Some of tese drugfunds go to the Taliban.So, the announcement today on the BBC stated that although Kabul is an enclave of western improvement, the countryside is owned by the enemies of the west...the warlords and the Taliban.The Pakistanis( our Ally?????these people loathe us and the western ethos) have been ineffectual in stopping cross-border incursions from the terrorist enclaves.
But the fundamental problem I have is the stupid and self-destructive invasion of Iraq.Read the PNAC...this was a trumped up war...based on lies....knowingly spread by Bush, Cheney, Condi, Rumsfeld and all the Bush punditocracy. They knew...they picked the "intelligence" they wanted and ignored the "intelligence" that refuted the claims of WMD, al Quaeda collusion,culpability for the 9/11 attack. The enemy was in Afghanistan....not in Iraq. I knew this....millions of peole outside the US knew this before the war....but our media is paid for by corporations, and they spun the War as if it was a good thing ...fight them there instead of here...war on terrorism. What complete stupidity. The"liberal" NYT, and WaPo....were the chearleaders and helped brainwash Americans with lies and distortions....the public I hope is just now learning the extent of the Bush lies and propaganda.
So my strong feeling is the following:
Fight our enemies who attacked us...yes. Invade and destroy their sanctuaries....yes. Iraq....has demonstrated the limits of our power, has destroyed our reserves and Guard system, limited any new recruiting,created a theocracy allied with Iran and provoked an ongoing civil war...now in progress,cost us 2000 of our bravest dead,15000 horribly maimed...this is equivalent to a division, cost our tax payers $250 billion.....$250 billion...so far....and there is no good way out. We are screwed by this stupid war, we are hated by our enemies(sure..they hate us anyways, but now they are willing to commit suicide to avenge what they see as an infidel, a crusader invasion of an Arab land ..this is what the brits found out about their recent indigenous bombers in London), Hated by our allies( all polls in the European and Canadian rich nations show this).
How can any intelligent person defend this debacle, unless you are simply a diehard Republican and only care about American elections.
Marty
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Damn straight.
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Mary,
You are an idiot. "We are hated by our enemies".
The Nazis and Nips hated us too, we killed them by the million. So what. They lost. We won.
"We are hated by our allies". The European media is gloating over the destruction of Katrina as if it were our fault. They sound alot like the morons who post here. You know what? They, and you, can go to hell too.
In case you haven't noticed, we are killing terrorists by the hundred in Iraq, I say we need more dead terrorists. You wring your hands about how they may react to being confronted. Well, screw you and the horse you rode in on, Cindy Sheehan wannabe....
What did Churchill say? The appeaser feeds the crocodile in the hope to be eaten last...That perfectly describes those who post here.
The irony here? what areas are likely to be hit in the next terrorist attack? - the blue state areas, of course. So go ahead. Continue to kneel and bob in bin ladin's lap, you terrorist supporters.
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Poor little lefties. You hate your own country, but will not move anywhere else. Why not North Korea, Venezuela, or Cuba? I'm sure Iran and Syria would welcome those who hold your opinions.
Go ahead. Sound off about how much you hate Bush and America. But then try to protest the ruling class in any of those countries. You'd be thrown in a plastic shredder before you could say, "Maybe Bush was right!".
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Marching in the streets of Western cities protesting the war is not brave. Go to Pyonyang,and stand up for human rights there. You'd be shot, of course, but you demonstrate your bravery.
Chanting slogans in Seattle does not a hero make.
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BTW, I've actually served my country.
US ARMY. 90-95.
That's 5 more years of service to country than your average Lefty.
Go ahead, America haters, burn our flag. Then bow down and pray 5 times a day to Mecca, because that is what you will be doing if bin ladin takes over.
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7.62X39mm.
That's the round fired by an AK-47. Keep up your America hatred and you stupid socialists will find out how that round feels when it plows through your skulls. (fired by your Islamic terrorist "freedom fighter", of course.)
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Erik
Thankfully, we are not the only country with the balls to stand up to the evil of Islamic terror. The brits and the aussies are stalwart in this fight, even though they have their own traitors in their midst (same as those in our country). Despite the ankle biting bin ladin dick suckers who post here, we will prevail in this fight.
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blue2goilf,
There is no discourse with you. You are a raving lunatic...and too stupid to waste my time with.I am a successful professional American citizen and I have every right to voice my opinion and my criticism of the worst ,most cowardly, most destructive president of our century.This Bush was AWOL from the national guard in time of war and you support him?????? To vilify citizens who disagree with you and the cloned morons of your ilk is unAmerican and disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself but I know you are incapable of feeling shame.You have no idea whether I or others would "bow down to osama". I already said I supported as did all Americans ,the attack on Osama. It is the blunder of our invasion of Iraq that I object to.You and the other Bush boys have been duped. Open your eyes.
Marty
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Facts don't seem to prove what blue2golf wants to believe.
Iraq invasion radicalized Saudi fighters: report
Reuters
Sep 18, 2005 — By Dominic Evans
RIYADH (Reuters) - Hundreds of Saudi fighters who joined the insurgency in Iraq showed few signs of militancy before the U.S.-led overthrow of Saddam Hussein, according to a detailed study based on Saudi intelligence reports.
The study by the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), obtained by Reuters on Sunday, also said Saudis made up just 350 of the 3,000-strong foreign insurgents in Iraq — fewer than many officials have assumed.
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marty,
My eyes are open wide, my friend. I see a President slaughtering terrorists who target children and old women because they are easy marks. I also see liberals ripping Bush (and America) a new one for actually fighting against evil. Your type should simply shut up. BTW, who will you blame as you fly through the air from the explosion of another terrorist attack on the U.S.? Bin ladin, or Bush? (I have a sneaking suspicion who you would pick)
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blue2golf,
These terrorists are the scum of the earth...they kill children..they are heinous murderers. Why must WE fight them.Why is our superb highly motivated troops forced to be targets...shot and bombed..while these scum kill each other in a civil war. Bush has caused this scenario with this stupid invasion.Remember REPUBLICANS INCLUDING BUSH SAID BEFORE THE NEOCON DAYS THAT THE US MUST NOT BE THE WORLDS POLICEMAN. We should not be nation building. Bush said the military was overextended....they needed to be drawn back because the role of our military was to protect the US. Don't you remember that Bush said all this. He said there must be an exit stategy before the intervention in Kosovo, and the Powell Doctrine said we must use overwhelming force. These Neocons totally ignored their own dogma..they have ruined our army and aroused hatreds that are now motivating these enraged Arabs to attack us in Iraq....and yes, like in London they will attack us here. Bush has made us LESS safe with this stupid invasion. WE ARE BOGGED DOWN...how do we escape his lunacy now.How can we respond to our own emergencies like Katrina, when 40% of Nat. Guard first responders are in Iraq with their best heavy equipment...THINK....THINK...the plan for this terror war was stupid and self-destructive as soon as Bush left the legitimate battle against Osama for this lunacy of invading Iraq. I blame him for lying and deceiving America to get his invasion. I knew he was full of shit.Mushroom clouds?????? You believed that crap?You arn't pissed when your President lies and lies to you...and then squanders 250 BILLION dollars of yours and my money. You think its ok because he is killing terrorists??? THINK...he is creating thousands more then he is killing. There are millions of Arabs who apparently arn't afraid to die. I agree that we must protect ourselves...and kill and fight our enemies. But....it is good to fight the enemies who actually attacked us, and not those like the Iraqis who did not.IT IS AN UNNECESSARY waste of our men and resources. THAT is why I loathe Bush and his lying neocon cabal.
Marty
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Marty,
bla, bla, bla....That's all I'm hearing buddy. Bush kills terrorists in Iraq, thereby stirring up more terror? You frikken moron. Did you know German morale improved during our bombing campaign, as did the British morale during the Blitz? Guess how we won? We kept killing them until they gave up or died. We'll do the same with those ragheads in the Middle East. Chances are, they'll just die, but that's fine too.
Another thing, Bush lied? Prove it. Because if Bush lied, so did your hero, Clinton:
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998
How many times did you vote for Clinton, the Iraqi child murderer?
BTW, the venemous rant that kicked off this whole debate here is becoming more and more full of holes.
10,000 dead? Nope.
Bush hates blacks? Nope.
NBC had to retract the famous weeping Jefferson Parish president segement from Meet the Press. Turns out the man had his facts wrong. I don't blame him, he was obviously emotionally upset. Too bad for you lefties that you can no longer play that video to bash Bush over the head.
Was Bush, and FEMA, clueless the first week? Yes, and Bush is paying the political price. But leave it to you lefties to venomously overplay your hand. Now the facts are coming out and you people are looking more and more like Cindy Sheehan, frothing at the mouth and in need of a rabies shot.
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blue2golf,
You just rant away.Read the Downing street memos if you dare.Bush knew and lied to you and you just love it.There were no WMD..do you agree with Duelfer ..Bush's CIA expert.If this was just a mistake of intelligence...why wasn't Bush pissed at the CIA...he gave Tenet the medal of freedom. He lauded him. How do you explain that? Clinton thought there were WMD...so he had Gen. Zinni bomb every target in Iraq for 4 days non-stop. That was smart....to invade and destroy our army is stupid. Have you read what Marine General 4 star centcom head Zinni has said about the Iraq debacle????There is nothing that Bush can do no matter how incompetent that you would say....this is wrong.You are a brainwashed dupe...and you are never going to see the truth.
Marty
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By the way....these jihadis don't care if they die. They commit suicide so killing them does not stop the war. Ask the Israelis....they have a lot of experience in self defense, and they have great intelligence, spies and speak arabic. They can't stop all attacks. And whyat is your ridiculous fixation with Germany and Japan.These are totally different from the current problem with Arab terrorists.
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09.19.05 - 9:41 pm | #
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Best. Rant. EVAR.
I wish I'd written it. Perma-linked.
BadDoggie |
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nice. very nice.
Will |
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09.21.05 - 8:59 pm | #
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wonderfully said. i hope this blog is read by all ppl..try to hand it over to everyone you know, especially the dumb americans who managed to vote for bush although they saw how incompetent he was at every press conference.
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Damn, I was only gone for a week and look at everything I missed!
blue2golf:
Hey man, thanks for watching my back (it's a republican thing). Marty. Oh, Marty. You professional, you! We need to talk.
It's late, I'm tired, but I'll be back and we'll get this party going!
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Marty,
Before I retire, you said: "Clinton thought there were WMD...so he had Gen. Zinni bomb every target in Iraq for 4 days non-stop."
You're kidding, right? So then you would agree that ten men with buckets could effectively drain the Ninth Ward area of New Orleans of its floodwater?
Ya see! You are intelligent, Marty, and you would probably be a successful writer, dentist, or perhaps even a fine surgeon... as long as you can find your answers and direction from print. Simply put, you lack the ability to reason things out rationally on your own. Your logic is skewed -- but that is ok. We need good surgeons, and it is healthy and stimulating to hear from individuals such as you. You keep the real thinkers honed and sharp.
Should a disaster hit your town, you would be hanging on the coat tail of someone who could actually lead you to safety, because you don’t have the natural ability to lead yourself, or anyone else, for that matter.
The sooner you liberals understand your weakness, the sooner you will embrace those who have the courage and good sense to do what it takes to protect our country, our citizens and our children and the sooner we will eradicate the masked cowards who behead innocent men women and children.
Yes, Marty, I did read the Downy Street Memo. Did you watch the Nicholas Berg Video? No really, did you watch it? http://encoderx.co.uk/nickberg/
Sleep well, my friend.
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Did I say "Downy"? I knew you'd catch that, Marty.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
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Secret "Downing Street" Memo
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This is specifically for Steve, as I only read the original post and none of the replies:
Wow, I can barely read a competent word in all that mess of expletives. Did your mother never wash your mouth out with soap? If not, then she should.
You can't blame Hurricane Katrina on Bush, and if you do then you're just blowing hot air. Bush doesn't control the weather, and he's not the one who spent all the city's money on bars instead of rebuilding the levy. I believe that was the mayor's fault. Did you not see the news report where they talked about the levies not being strong enough to hold back anything stronger than a Level 2 hurricane? The mayor was warned time and again that the levies needed to be rebuilt stronger, and he ignored this. So if you want to blame someone, blame him. President Bush is doing all that he can to clean up the mayor's mess down there, and while you're sitting up there in New York griping about Bush, those of us down here in Texas and New Orleans are attempting to pick up the pieces. So if you really want to do something about Hurricane Katrina, quit your belly-aching and fly down here to help. Otherwise no one cares about your opinions. In case you haven't noticed, pointing the finger doesn't ever do any good, and you could be spending the time you did to write this completely biased and not very factual article on something productive, such as raising money or collecting clothes and other things that the refugees need. There is nothing to be gained, especially for the people affected by Katrina, from your insipid whining.
And one more thing: I didn't vote for John Kerry because I didn't want him as our president. But if he had been elected into office, I would have at the very least respected him for doing his best. If you think you can do so much better at running an entire country, why don't you go ahead and try instead of complaining like a four year old who's just learned swear words. Try some intelligent conversation next time. It's not an easy job to run a country, and someone is always going to be unhappy, but George Bush did what he thought was best for the FUTURE safety of our country, and if you think he did the wrong thing, that's fine, but don't attack his personal character or intelligence as though you were a kindergarten in an "I know you are but what am I?" argument. That's what you sound like.
If you don't like the way the country is being run, then go run it yourself, but your mindless waffle isn't helping anyone, including yourself.
(By the way, basing your feelings on Fox's apparent feelings for Bush is about as indepedent as basing your political views off of your parents. Why don't you get your own opinions and stop just following whatever the media is saying. Next thing we know, you'll be praising Bush just because Fox said he did well cleaning up after Katrina.)
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Oh, and one last thing, you can not like George Bush all you want, but its immature, childish, and downright rude to blame and/or insult conservatives because of it. You don't hear us conservatives blaming everything on you liberals, do you? No, you don't, because we have manners.
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Uh oh, Libs. Bush's poll numbers are going UP.....
http://www.usatoday.com/news/was...bush-
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Despite your worst efforts to smear the man, Bush is staging something of a comeback.
Stupid frikken socialists. You should all be give a spoon and sent to muck out the wreck that is now N.O.
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Gosh and golly...I returned to see if blue2golf found his voice and here are more rightwingers...Erik and Christina( possibly the same person) spouting one non-sequitor after another. Let me start with Erik.
What possible connection is there between Zinni directing a non-stop bombing campaign against all known WMD targetsin Iraq and "ten men with buckets bailing out NO". The analogy is stupid. Zinni with the Brits and the UN supporting the effort responded to Saddam's ejection of the UN inspectors. It was 1996 and they still didn't know for sure that there were none left over from the destruction the UN inspectors had achieved. Saddam DID have weapons and early nuclear ambitions before the 1991 gulf war...we helped him to get them. He was a tyrant...and he did invade Kuwait, and I, like most Americans supported Bush Sr and the righteous war to eject him from Kuwait.The bombong was justified and potent, or you don't agree with Republican 4 star Marine General Zinni....one tough cookie. So leave off with such insultingly stupid comparisons to "bailing out N.O."
You have absolutely no idea as to how I would respond to a disaster.I believe I would do just fine, but admit I don't really know.Do you????I hope I would be assisted by other good and decent citizens all struggling together for the common good...like decent Americans have always done in the past. That is called citizenship and commonality, and the bickering and partisan attacks do not help this goal.
I don't need you to lecture me on courage or strength. This is a stupid and insulting tack and means you have little logic to offer but instead simply brag on about the invincibility of the right. What tripe...I totally reject this absurd notion.
Cutting off Berg's head is really disgusting don't you think. Is it necessary to watch it to believe that. Of course I didn't watch this atrocity......but so what. It is just another absurd non-sequitor...what on earth can you mean and what is your point.
Christina just blathers on. I don't have time or patience to correct her stupid non-points.
Blue2golf is irretievable and no logic or facts would dent his solid wall of acceptance in lies and deceptions.
Marty
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You give idiots a bad name.
As if Jean-Francois Kerry could have done any better.
The liberal response was to say that Bush didn't offer enough money!
It was a tragedy, get over it.
And you are not in power. get over that too.
And this will not change anything, unless you get a message other than "Vote for us, were Not Republicans"
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Dave Nichols,
Can't you have an original thought. What a moronic post. Get over it??? That is supposed to mean something. Delay is going to jail....get over it. Cheney is a traitor along with Libby and Carl Rove...they exposed a CIA undercover agent...a crime...get over it. The Iraq war is a disaster brought on by the lies of the Bush administration, and they , the Republicans will feel the wrath next election..get over it.
No-one expects Bush to prevent hurricanes...it his inept response that people hate....putting friends of his fundraisers into positions of power like heckovajob Brownie, and the next 2 heads of FEMA...completely unqualified people resulted in the disaster response totally inadequate. That is what Bush is loathed for...picking idiots to run those govnt. agencies we must depend on when a disaster hits. How can you defend these choices.The Republican controlled congress for the last 8 years and Bush for 4 CUT funding to the Corps of Engineers program for repairing the NO levees every year. They cut the S.E.L.A program from 16 billion over 10 years to 2 billion. If Clinton had done this you Bushbots would be all over him 24/7.
Give idiots a bad name....you moron...such a stupid statement. I am not an idiot but I can recognize one when I read stupid blogs like yours.
Jean-Francoise Kerry??? You moron...go ahead and combine France bashing with insulting a true war hero who volunteered for swift boat service, was wounded and won the silver and bronze star. Yeah... swift boat liars in action...the US Navy was complicit in awarding these medals of valour to a fraud. Sure...and your hero is GW Bush who hid from the war in the champagne unit in the Texas Nat. Guard, and signed the slip as NOT requesting a tour in Nam..then was AWOL....AWOL...doing a political campaign in Alabama..how heroic. You make fun of Kerry and vote for and defend a coward who fled from his unit and failed to take his flight physical ..during wartime. He was grounded. These are all facts...irrefutable facts.You love this fraud and you call me an idiot.
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Again, you said: "Clinton thought there were WMD...so he had Gen. Zinni bomb every target in Iraq for 4 days non-stop."
Here, let me dissect the analogy for you: If you believe that a 4 day bombing campaign was the appropriate action to take against a dictator whom you believed had WMD, then you would also agree that ten men with buckets would be the appropriate action to take to effectively drain the Ninth Ward area of New Orleans of its floodwater. Obviously, neither action was or would be appropriate, but you’re missing that little detail.
Your response further supports my point that your logic is skewed, and now I’m thinking you have a comprehension problem as well.
Of course you didn’t watch the Nick Berg video. You don’t have the guts to face our enemy or the reality of what they do to our children… unless it is in print form.
And yes, I would be that person to put my arm around you, Marty, and lead you to safety. I don’t agree with what you write here, but you’re obviously a good American, and I respect you for that…
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Oh, I'm sorry, Marty, did I not say anything good enough for you?
Try this one then:
You can't blame Bush for not responding fast enough to Hurricane Katrina. Do you want to know why? Because he doesn't control the Lousiana State National Guard, moron. Only the governor of Louisiana had the power to dispatch ANY of the Lousiana armed forces down to the coast to help. If Bush had tried to do this, he could and would have been impeached by you liberal hypocrits. So, if you want to blame someone for that, blame the Governor of Lousiana.
And you can't say Bush is keeping the troops in Iraq for oil. You can't say he's keeping them in Iraq at all. Why? Because only signed papers from BOTH houses (Senate and House of Reps) can legally dispatch troops or legally bring them home. And there are plenty of Liberals in both houses, so why don't you blame them for the troops still being overseas? Because liberals are perfect, right? Everything is Bush's fault. Why don't you go check your facts before you start pointing your fingers.
Oh, and that comment about Erik and I being the same person was *really* clever and mature. Wow, where do you come up with this stuff?
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Christina,
Bush engineered this war from the moment he was in office...read the statements of the PNAC..read what Richard Clarke said after 9/11..read the Downing Street Memoes. You were duped. There was no IMMINENT threat from Saddam.It turns out the bombing by Republican 4 star Marine general was effective in destroying any suspected WMD targets..and the CIA said they had intelligence about them.But Saddam had destroyed his programs and his weapons in 1993...his son-in-law Kamal testified about that to Rolf Ekeus the UN chief inspector. And Duelfer...Bush's own CIA WMD expert reported that there were NO WMD in Iraq when Bush attacked. This is Bush's and the Republicans' war. They knew it was based on lies :that is why they changed the reason for the invasion 4 or 5 times.
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Christina....I don't know why you continue to flog the false charge that Bush had to wait for the Louisiana Governor. Are you not aware that she declared a disaster and asked for federal emergency declaration 2 days BEFORE...BEFORE the hurricane hit, and Bush the next day accepted the declaration and directed a federal response.This is documented and even heckuva job Brownie testified about this under oath.Once this declaration is made it is the Federal job to take command....it is Homeland security and FEMA who are in control...over all 3 states where the disaster declaration was made.Blanco had 40 % of the guard in Iraq with their heavy equipment, but I am sure she made errors too and has accepted responsibility for them. If the federal response was so effective and timely why did Bush fire Heckuva job Brownie, and why has everyone decried the slowness of the effort to get water food and security to the 50000 poor people trapped in NO.Only the President can order in the 82 Airborne, or Nat. Guard troops from surrounding states. Bush didn't pay attention..he stayed on vacation, he made stupid lying speeches about vJ day...he didn't even show up for 4 days in the diaster areas. Go ahead like a good dupe and pooh pooh these facts.Just ANSWER 2 questions for me.
1) Why did we invade and occupy a far-away sovereign Islamic nation.
2)Why did Bush appoint an incompetent like Heckuva job to be head of FEMA when he had Zero experience in disaster management.
Marty
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Erik,
I think the appropriate action was to send in UN inspectors as Bush did at first. But he pulled them when it was becoming clear that there were no WMDs and there would be no casus belli. Then the lies about Niger yellow cake, aluminum tubes, unmanned attack drones, mobile WMD trailers(remember curveball)all began, and Bush abandoned the fight against Osama...our real enemy who is still loose and causing attacks.Bush let Osama go...he wasw trapped exactly as Kery claimed in Tora Bora. So you think this deadly and self-destructive invasion in Iraq was the correct response to the fear that Saddam had WMDs? It is a colossal and costly ($300 billion) blunder..and it will end withy a civil war and the Shiite theocracy allied to Iran...another triumph for Bush. Can't you see how you have been duped. Bush is NOT a conservative..he is a neocon ideologue. Think.
Marty
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Christina,
I do agree with you about the culpability of democrats in the Senate for signing onto the authorization to use force against Saddam, but the bill stipulated that Bush use the Un to force entry of inspectors,and it did NOT authorize an invasion. Go read it yourself. Bush said afterward that it was not a declaration of war, but it could lead to peace. He vowed to use the UN to try to avoid war. These are all facts you can look up yourself. If you have not read the Downing street memoes I urge you to do so, and I would be happy to give you the lnk. They conclusively prove that Bush was lying to you , me, and congress. He planned to go to was with Iraq 7 mon. before he even went to the UN for prop 1441..it was a chaqrade. He probably thought it would be a cakewalk, and that they would throw flowers at our crusader christian troops. What collossal stupidity.
Marty
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Downing Street memos? What's next, Bush blew up the levees? How 'bout, Bush blew up the Twin Towers?
You Lefties and your loony spouting of the most inane theories to back up your arguements put a smile on my face. It shows you cannot back up your assertions with facts, just facimile.
Try again, Marty. How Louie Farrakan and the "Mother Ship"? You could try to blame Bush for that one too, but that loony tune is on your side.
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blue2golf ,
Can you say how old you are. I suspect that you are a child, because what you write is so silly and illogical.
"What's next, Bush blew up the levees? How 'bout, Bush blew up the Twin Towers?"
"How Louie Farrakan and the "Mother Ship"? You could try to blame Bush for that one too"
What are you babbling about. This is called the "straw man" argument.I have never written or suspected, nor has any sane person (lefty or liberal) that Bush blew up the levees or the twin towers.What is the blather about Farrakhan....I loathe the arrogant anti-semite.
What is it you are striving in vain to communicate....say it in clear english, not this bizarre nonsense. Is it rightwing code for something all normal people don't catch. I would be glad to give my opinion if I knew what the heck you are blathering about.
Marty
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Rough day?
Ray |
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I was so good I came back a read it again.
People can't wake up. The four symptoms of aspartame poisoning are:
1. Loss of IQ
2. Type 2 diabetes
3. Cancer
4. Obesity
Aspartame turns to formaldehyde at 86 degrees. Pickled brains don't rise up.
Ray |
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Marty,
Screwy Louie Farrakhan spoke at Rosa Park's funereal just the other day, along with Bill Clinton and Jesse Jackson. Two big Dem. luminaries, side by side with "Mother Ship" Farrakhan. Your guiding lights seem eager to be with him. They should've made a statement that Farrakhan was not welcome to pimp Rosa's corpse for political gain(oh wait, Jesse and the Dems. have already done used her body to swat Judge Alito).
Marty, Marty, Marty. When will you guys stop the race mongering? Preaching at Rosa's funereal on one hand, then throwing oreos at a conservative black politician in Maryland with the other. Sane people see the racial hatred you lefty bigots use against black conservatives.
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blue2golf,
You seem to be making progress. About 25% of your comments were sensible.Yet, I don't get what you mean. I can tell you that I do not have a bigoted bone in my body, and so do most all of my friends. And we support affirmative action, believe in helping by using student loans, food stamps and job training those blacks who are underprivileged and need society's help.In fact we believe strongly in the bill of rights, in freedom of expression and individual choice. Is that what conservatives believe??Rosa Parks was a heroine...why shouldn't we applaud her courage. Do You???
Marty
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Marty,
Rosa seemed like everbody's sweet old grandmother with a spine of steel to do what she did in the heart of the old racist South.
Yes, conservatives believe in equal oppotunity for everbody, but not in equal results mandated by gov't legislation. You are responsible for the chance of well being you have in life, and if you screw it up, tough. The problem with you lefties is you persist in acting as if Bull Conner were now the President and that us neo-cons were manning the fire hoses on all minorities. That is why Jesse and Sharpton can still get away with pimping race around the country and why you dumb libs feel justified with throwing the bigot label about with wild abandon.
You and your ilk simply hate Bush (and his supporters) with an intensity and lunacy that I have never witnessed in my short life. Oh well, you will never learn to love this country, or yourselves, so I do not allow myself to become too exercised over the pap that spills from your keyboards.
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Blue2golf... Wow. You are the man! Marty? You've been out classed, my friend. You have been told.
Like I said, I believe a comprehension problem exists with the poor soul. Rightwing code? Hehe. How amusing. Ok ok, yes, we do use code but to the contrary, all normal people get it.
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Ahhh yes...Erik and Blue2golf...2 peas in a pod. Are you the same person perhaps???
Please don't presume to speak for normal people. Normal blacks give Bush a 4 % approval poll...yes an incredible 4 four...4 %. They are not fooled by the stupid rightwing juxtaposition of racism , attempting as I have heard Rush do to declare that DEMOCRATS ARE RACIST based on what people who fight against racism say. Renewal of the voting rightsw act anyone?????Purging of Blacks falsely from voter roles anyone. Abandoning inner city Blacks in New Orleans to death, and despair, while the black community KNOWS that Rush and his community in Florida would have had every resource spent on their salvation.The Africaqn Americans know the truth. Rightwing BS doesn't work on them..they have experienced racism for generations, and the 4 % know they can't accept that collossal moron Bush.
Why must you put words in my lefty mouth. I have never accused Bush of being Bull Connors. He is far too great a coward for that. I strongly believe he is the worst and most dangerous president we have ever had, and I work every day towards throwing him and all of his corrupt band of lying Republicans from office. I believe only 35% of Americans approve of him, most think he is a liar( I know that he is), and I am looking forwaqrd to 06 when the House and Senate go Democratic. Let the investigations begin.
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Investigations? Racism? Lying? You just can't let go of the lefty talking points, can you? If Republicans lose, it is because they tried to be Democrat-lite....with too much spending, gov't solutions for every problem and hand wringing over Iraq, and in addition, failing to stand up to the slanders libs like yourself fling around. What is the lesson for Republican woes? Stay true to principals, clearly state what you believe in and then fight for it and let the truth be on your side.
Dems, on the other hand, have to push every loony toon crackpot theory about how Bush lied about WMD, Bush hates blacks, our troops are like Nazis, we deserve to lose in Iraq, we need to "understand" our enemies, capitalism sucks, we need energy independence but we shouldn't find any more energy.....the list goes on and on...
Marty, just listen to yourself. You want an investigation. Into what? Everything has been investigated about Iraq. No lying has been found. I know, "what about Scooter Libby!!!" Too bad Marty, Scooter's perjury deals with his recollections about conversations he had with journalists, not intentional lying about WMD or outing Valerie Plame, Patrick Fitz. said as much.
I will say this: Let the investigations really begin Marty. Let's find out just how full of crap the Dems. have been over the whole War on Terror. Let them get serious and investigate the so called lies, really. My guess they are too afraid to actually show that Bush never lied. Bush is unable to articulate his positions and is paying the price. I doubt the Dems would do him the favor of exonerating him. Ironically, that result also keeps Bush in office, something you just can't stand.
So sorry, Marty. You guys don't really have what it takes to see your conspiracy theories to fruition.
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Orders to U.S. factories for big-ticket manufactured goods and sales of new homes rose sharply in October while consumer confidence soared in November, all indications the economy is recovering from the blow delivered by the Gulf Coast hurricanes.
The Conference Board, a private research company, said that falling gasoline prices and an improved jobs outlook had lifted confidence in November to a reading of 98.9, up from 85.2 in October.
Meanwhile, the Commerce Department reported that sales of new single-family homes shot up by 13 percent last month, the biggest one-month gain in more than 12 years. The increase pushed sales to an all-time high 1.42 million units at a seasonally adjusted annual rate.
Ohhhhhhhhhh my God!!!!!!!!! No doom and gloom!! What is there left for you dems to do? Hail to the Commander and Chief -- these guys are gonna start shootin' themselves. You wait n see! Don't do it, Marty... Cuba could use a guy like you. No realy!
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I'm sorry, I just can't help myself:
Consumer confidence "soared"
Confidence reading of "98.9"
Single-family homes sales "shot up"
Biggest one month gain in "12 years"
"All-time high" 1.42 million units
Words burn like holy water, eh? Here's more...
The increase in home sales confounded analysts (Dems) who had been predicting (Hoping) that new home sales would decline by 1.8 percent...
I don't know about you, blue2golf, but I'm damn happy about all of this. And not because it throws egg on anyones face, but because it is news that an American should be happy to hear... right? And you, Marty? All sarcasm aside, I'm anxious to hear your angle.
Think I'll go buy a house today. America! What a beautiful place.
Erik |
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Dear rightwing morons,
I realize that any discourse with you is similar to a debate with my poodle, but here goes.
You always put words and thoughts into my(lefty) mind that I and noone I know would utter or think. Stop listening to your pseudobrain Rush.
I am delighted that housing is still strong. Our economy is currently supported by China and Japan and the Saudis buying our ( Bush declared them worthless) securities. With our Republican ballooning deficit, if these allies??? decide to stop funding our government, our economy may collapse..a la Argentina. I am not an economist but this is what they all say.
I have 2 houses and am delighted with them both. If I were a greedy guts, I would be a Republican because I benefit from there skewed policies for the rich and corporations.
LIES...not slander is what is going on. I and 58% of Americans are convinced that Bush and the Neocons lied to get their war. This has cost us 240 Billion dollars, untold death and injury and the enmity of the world, including our allies.
You surely can't believe the Bush BS that the lies have been investigated. It is not true. Both the Robb/Silberman and Senate intel report SPECIFICALLY stated they did NOT...NOT look into the use or abuse of the phony intelligence about the non-existing WMDs.
I want Harvey Waxman to use his subpoena power when the Dems take over the house in 06 to investigate
1) Cheney's secret energy meetings. Did he promise Iraq oil to the oil companies....BEFORE 9/11???
2) What did the OSP and Doug Feith do to circumvent the CIA and bring false intel into the admin. speeches.
3)Why did Bush award slam dunk Tenet a Medal of Freedom and laud him if he was angry about the false intel????
4) Bush and the Neocons either lied to us and to congress, or manipulated false intel withgout giving contrary and equally valid views of the Energy Dept(aluminum tubes lies),Niger uranium purchase( fraudelent forgeries, and Joe Wilson smearing), 45 minutes to attack(outrageous lie), mobile labs, Curveball...(.they knew it was a lie because the Germans told them), al libi torture produced lies( The CIA told them he was a liar, and he rsecanted his evidence)that Iraq was helping al Quaeda.
Ohh there are so many more lies and corruption I want them to investigate...I want them to IMPEACH Bush..you nuts were delighted with the 8 year hounding of Clinton with the bizarre attempt to impeach him over a blowjob.
This is of course a waste of time, because NOTHING will change your views.
You might change your minds after the investigations in 2006 expose these liars in Bush's government.
Marty
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11.30.05 - 8:32 am | #
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Marty!! Are you kidding me?!
Do you really believe yourself? I’m stunned at your ridiculousness. “pseudobrain Rush” What the hell is that? Marty, American success just isn't fun for you people, is it? Here is some pseudobrain Rush for you and,
Lets just start with something simple like your (Democrats) handling of the hurricane: What did they (you) handle? Did they bring food to the hungry, water to the thirsty? No! Not only did they get everything wrong -- therefore actually hampering recovery efforts -- you along with your compatriots in the Democratic Party, did nothing but do what you do best, point fingers of blame.
Yup, the left was livid when, as The New York Times reported, FEMA awarded $1.5 billion in contracts to clean up the hurricane debris, 80 percent with the little or no competitive bidding... and who got the deal? Halliburton, among others. Horrors?
Just three weeks before, you liberals were throwing a tantrum because federal tentacles could not reach out and touch every hurricane victim fast enough. It was a catastrophic failure, the worst in history, rich Republican versus poor Democrat. It was racist, it was evil, and most of all, it was all Bush's fault. Then, when the feds acted quickly to get the cleanup underway, it was the rich Republican Lobbying, evil capitalistic cronyism, and why are we hurrying, why don't we have a bidding process? Oh, and it's Bush's fault.
It never occurred to you stuck-on-stupid liberals that the reason Halliburton is called on to get the job done is because they can! Hello! (Unlike the Liberals, in charge of building the levees where billions get diverted into a sinkhole of corruption.)
Liberals are never focused on fixing the problem. Their total orientation is blame Bush, blame the Republicans, blame capitalism, blame America, blame blame blame -- attempting to score political points as a means to reacquire power.
All they (you) do is complain. They would have us destroy our economy and millions of jobs based on the pseudoscience of man-made global warming. "It's America's fault! Get rid of SUV's!" Liberals standing in the way of innovation and exploration are driving up the cost of energy, while driving down the supply. They're pushing up the cost of food and of all products that are processed and transported with fuel -- and then they blame George W. Bush for the consequences of their policies.
Oil is the fuel of our economy, or our freedom, of our democracy. But when the Administration responsibly deals with maintaining a growing supply, liberals react as if anything good for the oil companies is bad for us. What kind of insanity is that? You sick freaks! It's the same kind of insanity that proclaims anything good for Wal-Mart is bad for us. Sheer idiocy. The exact opposite is true!
Liberals don’t fix anything either. Whenever anyone attempts to unshackle the entrepreneur and the business owner by lowering taxes and reducing regulations, who runs the TV cameras to denounce eeevil tax-cuts-for-the-rich “schemes”? Liberals – who demand more taxes and regulations on employers. Whenever any local or state government attempts to build or devise limited defenses against floods, or forest fires, who runs to court? Who runs to the EPA? Who throws up one obstacle after another? It’s the wacko leftist environmentalists.
Liberals don’t offer solutions; they only make things worse. The history of liberalism is screwing things up. That’s why all Republicans oppose the liberal, er, uh, agenda. In the name of “fairness” and “leveling the playing field” they constantly punish the achievers in an attempt to make everybody equally miserable.
And there’s not a single positive thing you and your stupid ass liberal lefty idiots offer to the country. They’re totally obsessed – to the point of pathology -- with attacking and obstructing President Bush. They’re free-floating obstructionism just slips from one charge to the next. The left’s blame-Bush-for-Katrina replaced their slam-Bush’s war-on-Terror-along-with-Cindy-Sheehan boomlet, which in turn has been replaced by Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson, let’s-indict-Karl-Rove-and/or-Scooter-Libby, which in turn replaced Tom DeLay indictments and Bill Frist investigations.
And Marty, the Liberals have no concept of how they are perceived. But we won’t forget, man. We won’t forget the forged documents they used to bring down a President, we won’t forget Abu Ghraib, we won’t forget Club Gitmo. We won’t forget the efforts to demonize and criminalize Republicans and conservatives simply because they are conservative and Republican. We won’t forget all the character assignation, the filibustering of qualified men and women to sit on the federal appellate bench. We won’t forget their calling us racist, sexist, bigoted homophobes. No sir. And, more than anything else, we won’t forget that this country’s national security cannot be trusted to any Democrat seeking the Presidential nomination, a Hillary Clinton, a John Kerry, an Al Gore, or whoever their (your) side wants to nominate.
Republican? Yeah, we are no where near having settled the score with the Marty’s, and letting them know exactly where their words and their policies have taken us. There is no indication whatsoever on the part of the Republican base to cede to the Party of Cindy Sheehan, the Party of Michael Moore, the Party of Books on how to assassinate President Bush. If you want Michael Moore sitting next to you at the Democratic convention, you’d better be prepared to have him at your campaign rally in 2006. If you want these left-wing blog extremist kooks (Marty’s) that have become the Democratic base to formulate your policy, you’d better be ready to stand with them in front of the nation; because if you don’t we’re going to do it for you.
Liberals don’t understand conservatives for the life of them, and never will. But we know liberals better than they know themselves. We know what they’re going to do or say before they say it. They are infinitely predictable. We also know they have nothing to offer.
Which is why our side is not going to be torn apart by a Supreme Court nomination. There is literally no way our strong, dynamic coalition is about to turn the country over to the Marty’s and the people we do not trust to run it. And Marty, if you and your liberals think that’s going to happen, then we should encourage you, because in your minds you already got the 2006 election won. Ha! Just as you idiots had the elections won in 2000, and 2002, and 2004.
It’s a beautiful thing.
No need to reply, Marty, we already know what you’re going to say. Bush lied! (Eyes popping out) Bush Lied (fingernails shooting left n right) Bush lied! (blood squirting from ears) Bush Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiied!
Oh wait! The “blow job”. Yeah, Marty, did you sit with Nora Ephron who said “I’d sit around with my friends at dinner talking about How WE Got Here and Whose Fault Was it?… Monica got onto the list, because after all, she delivered the pizza. … I drew a straight line from that pizza to the war. The way I saw it, if Bill had behaved, Al would have been elected, and thousands and thousands of people would be alive today who are instead dead.”
What was that you said about Morons?
Erik |
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Erik,
Give 'em hell buddy!
BTW, Bush's poll numbers are going back up again. All Bush has to do is tell the truth about Iraq and the economy, grow some cajones and fight back against the wild-eyed Murtha clones in Congress and the media. His numbers will continue to rise if he continues the push back campaign.
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12.02.05 - 10:49 pm | #
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Oh, the poll numbers will move up when we need them up. Bush is all about timing. Just when everyone thinks the Dems are taking over, boom! Cheney comes out with the gloves off and literally pummels the poor freaks. There is strategy, technique, planning, OBJECTIVE and uh, thinking behind EVERY move, including those moves that don’t appear to make sense to us at first. If Bush or Cheney came out every time some whacky-ass Leftist had something stupid to say, America would quickly become numb to their retaliations. You'll only see Cheney emerge occasionally, and only when he actually has something to say. For this reason, everyone listens, and his message has impact.
The Dems? They NEVER SHUT UP. No Strategy, no reason, objectives, no agenda with any substance other than “we lost power and need it back at any cost”. Christ, the media is full of 'em! And they all talk the same old tired-ass sh*@ day after day after day. Take Marty, for instance! Not a damn word out of his mouth ever follows logically from anything previously said. Mention Katrina, and he'll throw in Yellow Cake. Mention how things are looking up in our country (yours and mine), and he’ll rant about Bush’s lies.
Ya see, Clinton never lied. Not even under oath! That’s why when the Marty’s “think” bush lied, they become so inflamed. Blue2golf, there are specific reasons why we are in Iraq. I know it. You know it. We see the big picture. The Dems? They’ll never get it. Of course, most Leftists don't desire to get it, and the political puppeteers pulling their strings have but one objective in politicizing Operation Iraqi Freedom: to pick up congressional seats in the 2006 midterm elections. If their public dissension puts our troops on the ground in greater peril, well, for Dems, the end justifies any means.
But please, agree with them. Tell them Bush went in for the Oil. Tell them Bush lied to us. Let them know that the real reason we went into Iraq is because Bush had a huge hard-on for Saddam. Feed them what they need to fuel there stupid mouths. It keeps them busy while we do what really needs to be done to protect our Nation.
And speaking of objective, one closely guarded objective is to establish a substantial forward-deployed military capability in the Middle East, which would certainly include personnel but the primary component of which would be massive military-equipment depots that could be tapped for future rapid-deployment military operations in the region.
Now that, as you may recall, our friends the Saudis have expelled our fighting forces from their country, the NEW Iraqi government will likely extend an invitation to the U.S. to establish two bases in southern Iraq. This forward-base objective is critical, as our ability to project force in the region quickly without having to ramp up via sea and airlift will greatly contribute to stability in the region.
The bottom line, then, is that we have only two choices in our war with Jihadistan: The Long War or the Short Surrender. Either we continually and vigorously engage terrorists and their state sponsors, and undermine their support by establishing a democratic government in the HEART of the Arab world, or we become Democrats and surrender and suffer the consequences, at a cost far greater than 9/11.
As for Reid, Kennedy, Kerry, Durbin and Pelosi, who are willing to politicize OIF as fodder for our midterm elections, all Americans should resoundingly reject their treasonous BS. We remind them (as we did John Kerry back in '04) of North Vietnamese Colonel Bui Tin's remarks about the American "peace movement": Their protests gave enormous resolve to the Communists.
Undoubtedly, Murtha, Reid, Kennedy, Kerry, Durbin and Pelosi along with the current Democrat "peace movement" are giving "aid and comfort" to al-Qa'ida and enormous resolve to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and the Islamofascists.
Just kidding. We need their oil. And what was Saddam thinking when he tried to have George senior assassinated? Fu*&ng GWB! The damn liar!! The yellow cake eatin’ sob!!
Erik |
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FUCK YES.
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Eric....you are totally insane.I disagree with everything you stand for and so do 50 to 60 million Americans...and the rest of the world. I guess you want to kill us all. After all, if we think this war is an awful mistake, we must be traitors. Like 4 star Marine General Zinni, like General Odom, like Chuck Hegel Republican war hero, like Ron Paul Republican congressman, like General Wes Clark ex Chief of NATO, like Larry Johnson exCIA covert agent and a Republican. You and your mutual clone blue2golf are loathesome and very stupid. I reject you and suggest that you wait until 2006 elections when you can really blow your top after thr repubs lose control of the house and senate.
Watch your hero Bush pull out the troops ignominiously when we get close to the elections.
Marty
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12.04.05 - 9:24 pm | #
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Marty, you obviously have issues dealing with matters of truth. Do I really need to put together a list of good American figures who don't support your position that "this war is an awful mistake"? You know I can, Marty. But I also know it would be pointless. Marty, you’ve been exposed. Outclassed. You’ve stood before us naked revealing your impotence with regard to what is right for our country. You’re predictable and your ability to reason logically is skewed, but typical. And Marty, I have no choice but to wait. Unlike you, I have no crystal ball. "Loathesome (correction: Loathsome) and very Stupid"? “Blow our tops”? Perhaps we republicans are loathsome, but we are far from stupid, and we don't blow our tops. To the contrary, we think. Toss the crystal ball, Marty, and give it a shot. It’s a beautiful thing.
Erik |
12.05.05 - 5:25 pm | #
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Eric,
You have caught me...indeed "loathsome" fits you better.you forget THAT IT IS AN AMERICAN RIGHT TO DISSENT..TO DISAGREE WITH THE president. I bet you did that when Clinton was president. My point was that many, many erstwhile conservatives hate this president and his policies.I forgot to include Gen. Skowcroft...Bush SR CHIEF OF STaff, and don't forget Col. Wilkerson Colin Powells deputy.It is OK to feel puny and hurt when someone denigrates your dear leader...but it is my right to tell you that he and Cheney are liars and have duped you and America into a futile stupid destructive war which is not helping in the fight against terorism. I fully supported Bush Sr in Gulf war 1, and this Bush in the attack on the Taliban. The neocon invasion of Iraq has been the issue which will destroy the Republican hold on all branches of gvt. The dictatorship is almost over...just 1 more year.I can hardly wait. In the meanwhile I will enjoy the squirming of Duke Cunningham, Tom Delay, Bob Ney,Scooter ,Gov. Taft, Frist, Safavian, Abramov, Conrad ,Noe and oh swo many more corrupt Republicans.
Marty
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12.06.05 - 5:57 pm | #
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Marty,
You sound like a whiny left winger just before Kerry's defeat. So much faulty speculation with one non sequitur after another. Please go back and actually read the last several entries and then respond appropriately and intelligently.
Erik |
12.07.05 - 12:45 am | #
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E5ric,
Don't be stupid...I don't whine. Your last posts were too all-inclusively STUPID to respond to.There were NO non-sequiturs, except by your definition. I'm not interested in your STUPID blather. How about a simple question and answer reposte..one issue at a time. I'll give you one to answer.
Did Iraq attack the US on 9/11?????
Try a simple answer.
Marty
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12.07.05 - 7:21 am | #
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Hey Eric,
Cheney in 1991 defended Bush for not going into Baghdad because he would alienate his coalition(a real one) and lose UN and allied support(including France). He said" once we had done that and we'd gotten rid of Saddam Hussain and his government, then we'd have to put another government in its place. What kind of government? Should it be a Sunni govnt. or Shi'ia govnt. or a Kurdish govnt. or a Baathist regime? Or maybe we bring in some of theislamic fundamentalists? How long would we have to stay in Baghdad to keep to keep that govnt. in place? What would happen to the government once U.S forces withdrew? How many casualties should the U.S. accept in that effort to try to create clarity and stability in a situation that is inherently unstable? I think it is vitally important for a president to know when to use military force. I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force. And it is my view that the President(Bush Sr.) got it right both times, that it would have been a mistake for us to get bogged down in the quagmire inside Iraq.
Well Koolaid drinker...was Cheney a traitor...was his wisdom in 1991 treasonous.9/11 had NOTHING to do with Iraq...they didn't attack us.
Marty.
Marty |
12.08.05 - 5:05 pm | #
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Marty,
Saddam had little to do with 9/11, but he had plenty to do with terror in Israel, used WMD against the Kurds, invaded two neighboring countries, caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people (including several hundred American troops who had to fight him in Gulfs I and II) caused a world class eco-disaster by blowing up the oil wells (I thought you libs cared about the environment), tried to kill Bush I....the list goes on and on.
One thing is now certain. Saddam will never have a chance to obtain WMD to use against us.
We are also killing terrorists by the thousand. al Qaida is fighting back, but so what. They will die horrible deaths and go to hell. That is good enough for me.
Why don't you stop helping terrorists and actually support our country?
BTW, did the Germans have anything to do with Pearl Harbor?
blue2golf |
12.08.05 - 8:28 pm | #
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Marty,
Almost forgot. How come the shrewd Dems. like Hillary and Bayh and running from the likes of Pelosi and Murtha as fast as their little legs can carry them? Don't they believe in principle?
Cowards all...
blue2golf |
12.08.05 - 8:30 pm | #
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Marty,
"Did Iraq attack the US on 9/11?????"
Iraq would have, had the means or the opportunity to do so existed. But instead, Marty, lets wait until six million Americans are annihilated, compliments of a bigger, better, Iraqi sponsored Terrorist attack funded by the UN’s “Oil-for-Food” program. You know the one. The one that was dumping billions of dollars into Saddam Hussein’s back pocket? Yeah, that one. But then again, you would still be here, Marty. Posting away and arguing that Bush failed to heed the intelligence that was available to him (following 911) that suggested WMD’s in Iraq existed.
Erik |
12.10.05 - 1:01 am | #
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Marty,
Stupid, three times in one paragraph? Surely there is synonym…
Erik |
12.10.05 - 1:02 am | #
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Marty,
You’re nothing more than a republican trapped in a democrat’s body. Why else would you keep coming back for these beatin's?
Erik |
12.10.05 - 1:04 am | #
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Blue2golf…
Hey man, ya really need to ease up on the clobberin'. The guy is going to blow a left temple… hehe
Erik |
12.10.05 - 1:05 am | #
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You fools think if you blather on ignorantly and incoherently ,then this is supposed to intimidate a person with a brain.
You admit that Iraq DID NOT ATTACK us on 9/11....Bush has said this. All of the other neocon bullshit has NOTHING to do with a casus belli. THAT is why the UN security council did not authorize this invasion.
Saudi Arabia was a far greater supporter of suicide bombers in Israel, and we didn't attack them.(Of course they are special friends of the Bushes) Iran is the true terrorist supporter and was probably complicit in the khobar Towers explosion, and we know they did the Marines in Lebanon( Hezbollah is Iran's entity) So why didn't we attack Iran??
Iraq was NO threat to us, or to its neighbours in 2002...they were contained by sanctions and no-fly zones...and both Condi and Colin said so in speeches before the decision was made to invade....before 9/11. I have the quotes if you want to see them.
Blue2golf..you are such a moron.After Japan attacked us , and we declared war on Japan, Japan's allies...Germany and Italy officially declared war on the United States. Our congress officially declared war on them 2 days later. Lord you are all so deathly stupid. Read a history book instead of listening to morons like Hannity and Limbaugh.
Oil-for-food....what a sham scandal...... the official investigation by Voelker has shown that billions of dollars were earned by Saddam through illegal oil shipments to Jordan and Turkey.....shipments sanctioned by the US and Britain...shipments permitted by the US Navy.Many US oil companies were involved in this scam. Cheney's company Halliburton was illegally keeping Saddam's oil fields going....against the sanction law. And how convenient of you freepers to forget the Bremer has LOST 6 billion dollars ...gone from the monies from the sale of oil by Iraq...yes money that our OWN US govnt. accountants have declared missing....not by the UN whom Freeperville hates because they knew Bush was a liar, but by Bremer..the guy who lost Iraq for the US.
You are I'm afraid what is so wrong with conservatives. You are arrogant and ignorant, stupid and nasty, and are traitors to our constitution. The right to speak out and the desire to be moral and just are pillars of what America means to me...and to the world. You clowns make a mockery of this glowing image of what our nation used to represent before Republicans took over. I pray the end of this disgusting corrupt control will be here in 2006.
Now go applaud your banal stupid posts as being such flaming brilliance.Do I sound in awe of your brilliance??????
What... no comment on what your dear leader Cheney said in 1991 after we beat Iraq out of Kuwait....an action which I supported.Be brilliant and criticize Cheney for saying those anti american things about a future quagmire if we invaded Baghdad. Oh no, he is giving support to the terrorists.
marty
Marty |
12.10.05 - 1:04 pm | #
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Nice usage of profanity.
Not Telling |
12.10.05 - 2:46 pm | #
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Marty,
Would you mind taking on a bit of a challenge? Would you kindly justify, in your own words, this statement:
"All of the other neocon bullshit has NOTHING to do with a casus belli."
I am incredibly curious and simply wish to witness anything that will reveal the depth of your inventive capacity. Humor me! And try to avoid your typical hackneyed, dried-out, repetitive and illusive BS, k?
Erik |
12.11.05 - 1:19 pm | #
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Erik,
Thank you for asking a straight legitimate question. Here is my analysis.
Iraq did NOT attack us on 9/11.
Iraq was NOT in collusion with Osama...the enemy who attacked us.
Iraq and Saddam hated Osama and vice versa...Saddam was a brutal dictator, and suppressed any religious fanatic that threatened his rule.
These facts were stated by Bush, the 9/11 commission and hundreds of other reports.
Iraq had destroyed its WMD in 1993 or thereabouts....we knew this because Rolph Eckeus of the UN had interviewed Kamal when he defected and he said that HE HIMSELF was in charge of the destruction of stockpiles so the UN inspectors would not find them. That part of his testimony was leaked BEFORE the war and I read it.The Duelfer and Kay reports confirmed that there were no WMDs in Iraq.
There were NO terrorists in Iraq BEFORE the invasion. Saddam would not tolerate a threat. There were NO suicide or car bombs. There was security for women who had rights, were in the government, in professional life, and were secular....no burquas.Now they have no security, they get bombed kidnapped and raped, and they are facing a constitution with Sharia laws like in Iran, where women have sharply curtailed rights.
Zarkawi was NOT in Iraq before the invasion...he was restricted to the north no-fly zone out of Saddam's reach....but WE could have killed him.
He was in the Kurdish area and had a tiny folowing. Now he is powerful and can attract Jihadists to Iraq. Even so...our military says that there are only 6-7 % of the combatants that are foreign jihadis. 97% are Iraqi who want us...a crusader force... a western Christian and Jewish force to leave.These terrorists want to kill americans and are in training, learning bomb making and tactics. The Iraqis are probably in the range of 200000 strong according to Pat Lang an intelligence expert who wrote about this on Larry Johnson's website...No Quarter.
The Brits did a secret poll which they suppressed but it was leaked( bless the British leakers...Downing Street Memos were unbelievable).. this recent poll stated that %80 thats %80 of Iraqis want the US to leave...and %45 said it was good for attacks to be made against our forces.
We are invaders and occupiers...we should never have committed ground troops. We should have listened to Bush Sr and Cheney in 1991...and to Zinni and Skowcroft in 2002. Now we are screwed.There is NO good exit strategy. We are hated and loathed by the iraqia, and we have killed over 100000 civillians..that is the figure from the Lancet..a Brit med journal. No one knows for sure how many, but fighting in Urban areas leads to civilian casualties. What we did to Fallujah, a city of 400000 people was horrific. The city is still in ruins and has little electricity or water or sewage. We used WP ordnance which we did to save our marines, but it is still a chemical weapon that we blamed Saddam for using against his people.Do you think the people of Fallujah look upon us as liberators. We still don't know the facts, but the winning of hearts and minds of the Iraqi people is supposed to be one of Bush goals. If we did this in Fallujah, then they must hate us...like we would hate anyone who did that to us. Our estimate was that there were 3000 insurgents in Fallujah, so we destroyed a city of 400000 to evict these enemy combatants.That is why a guerilla war wins against a powerful army like ours....we cannot just nuke them....we are trying to set up a democracy that will be friendly to our interests.
All of Saddam's terrible behavior (which neocons quote as a reason for invasion)to his own people is indeed tragic. WE ARE NOT THE POLICE....it is not our right, nor should be our goal to evict all terrible murdering dictators in the world.There are hundreds of shithole rulers killing their own people.Our military is to be used to defend our nation, and only when there is genocide or the UN Security councilor NATO requests troops for a humaniterian military mission should we...in conjunction with our allies contribute troops.We did so in Gulf War 1, in Bosnia, and in Kosovo....I agree with all those actions.
Thank you Erik for allowing a sensible and reasoned discussion. I believe that everything I have written is factual and true. I can document everything. Please correct any errors you see.
Marty
Marty |
12.11.05 - 5:16 pm | #
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Then move to Canada is the USA is so terrible. Just imagine if Kerry did win.... ouch....
kenni |
12.13.05 - 7:40 pm | #
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you know what Erik and Blue2golf..
you can go suck ass
i may be only 15yrs, but im not stupid and i do have strong political views.. bush is a moron~ case closed
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oops forgot my name...^^^^ that's me
erica |
12.13.05 - 11:10 pm | #
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Kenni,
I am from Canada....35 years ago, and believe me that my wife wants to go back. I still love my new land, and believe it is better to fight the forces of right wing evil then to let them triumph. I believe in a good, strong decent and peace-loving nation, a defender of what is right and moral in a world of monsters and bin Laden murderers.You on the other hand tell me to leave if I don't like this drift towards fascism...you disgust me.
Marty
Marty |
12.14.05 - 9:05 am | #
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Marty,
Go back to Canada and take erica with you.
blue2golf |
12.14.05 - 9:12 pm | #
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Marty,
Reading your screeds makes me think of Murtha on crack. What a bunch of Daily Kos crap you are regurgitating. Just save the rest of us real Americans the bother of listening to your gloom and doom rantings and cut your own throat in despair before bin Ladin can do it for you. "The war is lost! Bush is Hitler! The evil right wingers will destroy the world!" bla, bla, bla...
Like I said before, run back to Canada, the country that smuggly shelters behind the U.S. defense shield while lobbing arrows into our backs.
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Blue2golf,
Does mommy know you are playing on your computer.Either you are a toddler, or more likely you are a nasty and ignorant moron.Everything I posted was TRUE...point out a falsehood ....you clown.
I hate terrorists...I want to kill terrorists...I want a president and a congress to do that. Instead we have this insane and fruitless war and a world full of hostile friends. All this is due to the millions of lockstep clones like you .We are NO safer, but terrorism is hugely increasing. It is only a matter of time before we get hit, like the Spanish, Brits and Jordanians.
Thanks , Stupid.
Marty
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By the way, Blue2golf,
% Canadian troops were killed in Afghanistan by US bombs....by accident of course. But Canada responded and helped in the just cause of fighting terrorism in Afghanistan. Canadian troops have always fought with the western allies. They fought in WW1(1 million soldiers in the war...in 1914...US didn't come in until 1917), WW2...used as cannon fodder in the Dieppe raid...because they were regarded as elite shock troops,fought in Korea with the UN, did not fight in VietNam...a stupid war that the US should have avoided,have supplied troops to the Balkans and in Haiti recently, has supported Norad with radar and air support during the cold war. You are so abysmally ignorant. Canada had only 18 million citizens in 1914....30 million now, so the nation is tiny compared to the US.
You are the fool who told me that Germany did not attack us in WW2, and yet we were somehow at war with Germany...gee how did that happen you wondered. Aazing and arrogant cluelessness.
Marty
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Marty,
3 years ago, Saddam decreed a referendum on his presidency. The tally was 100% in favor of Saddam. If an Iraqi voted no, into the plastic shredder he went, so of course Saddam got 100%.
Yesterday, 70% of Iraqis turned out to vote for the party of their choice. This strikes people like yourself as insignificant because you take your rights for granted. Yet what happened yesterday is earthshaking. The improvements in Iraq are becoming palpable, despite the media smokescreen. Bush has a strategic plan for protecting this country and is not afraid to implement it, despite the charges of "no plan!". Well, the plan is clear: Get rid of tyrants. Give middle easterners a shot at governing themselves. Try to change the paradigm of hate.
What do you and the other ankle biters offer? Nothing but vitriol, bile and hatred of Bush and America. You are the ones with no plan but the Murtha option, surrender and retreat.
You mention Canada's role in military history. It is proud and brave, which make it's current emasculation that much more pitiful.
The lessons of history are obvious. Never let the leftys try a Vietnam pullout redux again. You are trying so hard to stab us in the back, but we true Americans will stand up and fight back against defeatists like yourself.
Stand with us ,shut up, or bare your throat to Zarqawi's knife. Any of those options you choose will be fine with me.
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And me as well. amen
Erik |
12.23.05 - 10:28 pm | #
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Up here in the Northern Plains we just recovered from a Historic event --- may I even say a "Weather Event" of "Biblical Proportions" --- with a historic blizzard of up to 44" inches of snow
and winds to 90 MPH that broke trees in half, knocked down utility poles, stranded hundreds of motorists in lethal snow banks, closed ALL roads, isolated scores of communities and cut power to 10's of thousands.
FYI:
* George Bush did not come....
* FEMA did nothing....
* No one howled for the government...
* No one blamed the government
* No one even uttered an expletive on TV...
* Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton did not visit
* Our Mayor's did not blame Bush or anyone else
* Our Governor did not blame Bush or anyone else either
* CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX, or NBC did not visit - or report on this category 5 snow storm
* Nobody demanded $2,000 debit cards.....
* No one asked for a FEMA Trailer House....
* No one looted....
* Nobody - I mean Nobody demanded the government do something
* Nobody expected the government to do anything either
* No Larry King, No Bill O'Rielly, No Oprah, No Chris Mathews and No Geraldo Rivera
* No Shaun Penn, No Barbara Striesand, No Hollywood types to be found
* Nope, we just melted the snow for water
* Sent out caravans of SUV's to pluck people out of snow engulfed cars
* The truck drivers pulled people out of snow banks and didn't ask for a penny
* Local restaurants made food and the police and fire departments delivered it to the snow bound families
* Families took in the stranded people - total strangers
* We Fired up wood stoves
* Broke out coal oil lanterns and Coleman lanterns
* We put on an extra layers of clothes because up here it is "Work or Die"
* We did not wait for some affirmative action government to get us out of a mess created by being immobilized by a welfare program that trades votes for 'sittin at home' checks.
* Even though a Category "5" blizzard of this scale has never fallen this early...we know it can happen and how to deal with it ourselves.
"In my many travels, I have noticed that once one gets north of about 48 degrees North Latitude, 90% most of the world's social problems evaporate."
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I am so disgusted and embarassed by this stupid cocksucker Bush Junior.. It is clear he stole the 2000 election from President Al Gore. FUCK BUSH JR and FUCK every one of his neo-con Israel supporting cocksucking JEW BASTARDS (who are STILL fucking crying about the fucking holocaust - GET A FUCKING LIFE HEBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Fuck the Jes - Fuck BUSH and his whole family - Fuck that 5th heart attack waiting to happen cheny and that psycho Rumsfeld. What a fucking disgrace!
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Alec,
Ah, a Nazi wannabe. Your hatred of Bush and Jews gives you plenty in common with the Leftys who have posted here over the last few months. Keep it up buddy!
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Alec,
I love it! “Bush stole the election”. And you just sat back and let it happen along with the rest of the country. Shame! You’ve got to hand it to our President, though. He is won helluva thief! In fact, I understand he’s going to steal the war! Listen man, the first thing you need to do is move out of your mother's house and introduce yourself to the real world. After all, Mommy is not going to be here wiping your backside forever. Anyway, she is probably damned fed up with trying to teach you basic real life skills such as, how to express yourself intelligently. No one takes you seriously, Alec, even though you are actually very talented at illustrating how ignorant you are. Do it, Alec! Take that first step! You can still talk to mommy by phone and takeout is really not that bad.
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Hey, What happen to Marty?
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01.25.06 - 9:23 pm | #
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Erik,
Maybe he went to see Brokeback Mountain and found his true calling in life, bareback riding.
blue2golf |
01.26.06 - 8:46 pm | #
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I hear you. After the Hammas win in Palestine, what is the Bush Regime going to do? Is it going to declare a war against Palestine? Do they put more soldiers into wars caused by the USA (Invasions) to die or be maimed at the whim of a megolamaniac?
North Korea is not a target, because they have limited oil. I cannot see how the American people can vote, because both major parties support big business, and will overcome any concerns of the general public.
As to freedom, liberty and happiness, your great leader GWB, has thrown the constitution of the greatest nation into the toilet.
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Adolph,
Thank you for your astute political analysis of the world situation: "It's all Bush's fault."
Brilliant! I've never heard that one before.
blue2golf |
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Ahh Eric, you missed me. I am so touched. Blue2Golf, you guys simply are too impossibly dull to have a debate with.I do check back every so often to see what inane bS you put out. I remember the great Bush defense you put out about Katrina and how it wasn't Bush's fault that there was a hurricane, and how could he know the levees would break., Turns out that 2 days before it struck, Bush was explicitly told what sort of a catastrophe was coming....in great detail. 2 days before. This was reported in the WashPost. The Senate committee investigating the disaster has said that Bush is stonewalling the committee. Bush did nothing to prepare for the disaster...but of course he did not cause the hurricane. With his denial of global warming however he is aiding the environmental disaster that is coming. A disaster acknowledged recently by 7 former heads of the EPA....6 of them Republican appointees.Shall we impeach him for his illegal wiretapping of Americans?? why did he not use the FISA act...he could do every legitimate surveillance he wanted to, and it would have been entirely acceptable...unless he is doing what Nixon was doing and also surveilling political opponents.I have heard him say and seen it on TV that "whenever there are wiretaps, there must be a court order...according to the FISA law." Was he lying then, or now( or whenever he opens his mouth.)
Yes we have to blame Bush...isn't he the guy that makes these dreadful decisions. Isn'e he accountable and responsible for his actions???
Well that should light some very deserved fires under your duped neocon derrieres.
Marty
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Marty,
You're back and what do you have to say? (all together now)
"IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!"
What did Bush do wrong with Katrina? Well, he reacted too slow, stood behind 'Brownie' too long and then proposed another huge gov't program to deal with the aftermath.
Yet what does the Left say about Bush?
He didn't care because he(and most of white America) is racist and hates the poor.
He blew up the leeves.
Bush rejected Kyoto and his non-signature is the sole reason behind Global Warming, thereby enabling him to inflict stronger hurricanes on the blacks in the South.
The National Guard could not handle Katrina because of Bush's Fascist War.
The Governor and the Mayor of the "Chocolate" City bear no responsibility for anything whatsoever.
Once again:
"IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!"
Business as usual here with the lefty loony toons.......
blue2golf |
01.30.06 - 9:49 am | #
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Gee...who said this today?
"You, American mother, if the Pentagon calls to tell you that your son is coming home in a coffin, then remember George Bush. And you, British wife, if the Defense Department calls you to say that your husband is returning crippled and burnt, remember Tony Blair."
Who said that???
Michael Moore?
Cindy Sheehan?
Ted Kennedy?
George Galloway prehaps?
Daily Kos or Democratic Underground blogs?
Usama's No. 2 guy Zawahiri?
Marty?
Howard Dean?
(I could go on and on here...)
If you picked Zawahiri, you were right. If you picked any of the others, well....I can't blame you. They do all sound alike....
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Uh oh libs.
Alito confirmed today while Kennedy huffed, puffed and filled his Depends.
Alito in, Roe v Wade out?
Heh, heh, heh.....
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Heh, heh, not bad. Not too damn bad. Can't believe he's still trying to ride Katrina's wave. Un........ beleivble. And he says were boring?
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"but of course he did not cause the hurricane". Well then you're uninformed, Marty. President Bush did in fact cause the Hurricane! The highly guarded information on the secret weather manipulating technology has leaked out and there is a picture that clearly reveals the President's finger on the Hurricane trigger. Impeach him! Same thing with global warming; responsible for that too. Climate changes on earth have never occurred in the past. This phenomenon only occurs on the moon. President Bush is only surveilling you, Marty. You obviously have inside sources that no one else has and know way too much. We are all… duped! Impeach!
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Erik and Blue....you are correct. You are dupes....willing moronic dupes.If Bush was caught in bed with a 5 year old child, you would say.."see he is leaving no child behind...no problem."You fail to use even a minimal portion of your forebrain. Just regurgitate RNC "ideas".We will have to wait until the 2006 Cong. elections to see whether there are intelligent citizens or morons like you 2.
Marty
PS. I am so touched that you missed me. A little truth goes a long way.
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02.09.06 - 6:58 am | #
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We don't know where to stand or what to stand for, and in fact we're not good at standing for anything anyway, but at least we know we can't stand Republicans.
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Republicans by and large are really a personality disorder....you are quite correct "mini Marty".(or is this clever widdle Eric in disguise...how cwever)
Of course democrats could write for hours on those things we desire for our nation.It is just there are so many incredible outrages done by Repugnicans every day, it's hard not to take notice.Did you hear heckuva job Brownie on Cspan, under oath expose the Bush lies about Katrina....it was beautiful. I kind of like this feisty crony that Bush made into the FEMA boss.
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02.10.06 - 3:55 pm | #
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Gee Marty,
"...Bush lies about Katrina..."
"...If Bush was caught in bed with a 5 year old child, you would say..("see he is leaving no child behind...no problem.")..."
(For a minute there I thought I was at Coretta King's funeral)
It is obvious Homeland Security and Brown aren't getting along. Yet what does the White House have to hide? They declined to invoke executive priveledge when prodded by Brown's lawyers and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine). Bush has decided to get it all out in the open and has little to fear from the process. Maybe we can finally find out what Gov. Blanco and the mayor of chocolate city knew and why they didn't act at all to save anybody.
Marty, you should go back to hand wringing over terrorist rights and pants pooping over muslim cartoon riots....
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I have made 3 posts, but none have been accepted. This is an experiment.
Marty
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02.15.06 - 7:57 am | #
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Ok.....Blue....I don't "wring my hands"..I don't" poop my pants."..I don't worry about the rights of "terrorists"..I worry that we are NOT finding terrorists..Osama and his boys are on the loose, and the NEW terrorists are now in Iraq, where Saddam prevented them from congregating.It is you and the other Bush cultists who are afraid...little babies needing their Daddy to protect them...doesn't matter how.. please Uncle Dick..and Daddy Bush...we are sooooo afraid...protect us...We don't care about our civil rights. That is your mantra...and anyone who criticizes Bush is therefore dangerous and seditious to you and your ilk. You neocons are pathetic.
Marty
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Have the Neocons read about the solely Republican bashing of the Katrina response. Have they seen heckuvajob Brownie refute the Bush lies about when he knew about the disastrous levee break? Have they seen Bush appointee Chertoff admit how flawed and incompetent the federal response was. Have they read that multiple warnings to Bush were given by his own agencies 2 days before Katrina hit that predicted exactly the disaster that occurred??
Probably not, but if so, these are all obviously "liberal lefty" slander. The cult-followers never believe the buck stops with the president, unless it is Bill Clinton.
Paul Pillar has destroyed the lie and myth that "everyone" thought the intelligence was correct. He was the CIA head in charge of intelligence 2000-2005.Ahh..another lying lefty.
Marty
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02.17.06 - 7:10 am | #
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"Katrina (or insert any bad news here)is all Bush's fault."
What else is news with you guys? Except...
Paul Hackett gets thrown to the sharks by the very people who encouraged him to run for the Senate in Ohio. This is rich!!!
This quote from motherjones:
“I felt like I got fucked by the Democratic Party because they enticed me in and then they pulled the rug out from beneath me. It sounds eerily familiar to sending in the military to Iraq, which was a misuse of the military, and then not giving them what they need to fight.”
Hee, hee. How's it feel to have that kind of vicious language used against your own people? Isn't he just speaking "truth to power"?
Hee, hee, hee.......
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02.17.06 - 5:44 pm | #
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Ohhh cute widdle Blue......why don't you comment on the great Katrina response of the Bush boys..as stated by the republican house report. I am very sad about Paul Hackett..he would have kicked Dewine's cowardly butt...but Sherrod Brown is a great democrat and will do the same. The days of the cult followers like you are over."hee,hee,hee" ohhhh so cute to laugh in such a manly way on line..you must be a girly-man.
Does mommy know you are playing on yhe computer???
marty |
02.17.06 - 6:24 pm | #
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blue2golf is a sad little idiot. Its really fucking sad. Go read some history
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That said, cuz anyone who doesn't know the fundamentals, like Germany Declaring War on U.S in 1941, isn't worth listening to
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04.07.06 - 6:59 pm | #
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Agreed. Bush is bad for you, me and any American worth his salt. This man is a rock on sooo many levels.
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04.10.06 - 7:54 pm | #
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Whose the freak alien? I love it! Another drive-by dem. Nothing to say as usual. Drive by and spit out a bunch of nothingness. dmb? Oooooh...k. Marty! Heyyyy, still spewing the usual brainless, boring muck with the same old choice of words: Neocon, duped, poop, Ilk, widdle? Are ya familiar with the word synonym? Ya fatass one-track minded, I wish I was a real American!
I do check back every so often to see what inane bs you put out and you’re not even amusing anymore. You’re out of material, man! Give it up. “I remember the great Bush defense you put out about Katrina and how it wasn't Bush's fault that there was a hurricane, and how could he know the levees would break., Turns out that 2 days before it struck, Bush was explicitly told what sort of a catastrophe was coming....in great detail.” Oh what’s this! Wrong again, Marty! Wrong again. You keep trying though, and eventually you’ll hit on something, uh… Right.
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I would be more likely to listen to people if they could learn to use words with more than four letters. And people wonder why I think Democrats in general and liberals in particular are unintelligent.
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It seems this little corner of the web is allowing posts again. Where's Marty?
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I have not heard one solution to any problems in America from any democrat politician ever. They just complain about bush. Want a bunch of fucking losers. The Democratic party will never gain power because everyone knows they are the party of cowards (Kerry) the party of surrender (everyone that want to leave Iraq with there tail between there legs) they are trying to grow there base by getting illegal immigrants the ability to vote and getting felons the ability to vote. What a bunch of fucking idiots and no one with a brain will vote for a party who is weak on defence. The democratic party has done everything in there power along with the ACLU to undermine the war on terror and put the U.S. citizens in danger. You fucking idiots that think it is the responsibility of the Bush boys to handle the Katrina situation are fools. The Katrina situation is the full responsibility of the governor of the state and the mayor of the city of New Orleans 100%. The Federal Government are not first responders it is local government that are first responders. The Federal government should not respond to any natural disaster for 3 to for 4 weeks later. If the Feds are force to respond earlier than the 3 or 4 week period it is because the local governments has failed in there job you idiot and both local government failed the governor and the mayor. Bush knew that they would fuck it up because that are democrats.
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Yeah, Amen! B2G! Where you at? D'ya think someone sniped Marty Marty? I think I saw him sleeping on a sheet of cardboard on Miami Ave, downtown Miami. No really! I'm certain it was him because he was mumbling the same old boring BS in his sleep. Heh heh...
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As an Australian i would not dare pretend to understand the full and complex mechanisms that drive your great nation of wonderfull people. almost natural born world leaders.
So i am astonished that a people so great would freely elect a monkey to head the most powerfull nation on the planet Bush is not held in the high regaurd that THE HONOURABLE BILL CLINTON IS. The average aussie is supportive of the men and women of all nations armed forces but appaled by the ileagal invasion of the middle east GEORGE BUSH IS A MONKEY AND LITTLE JOHNY HOWARD IS HIS PERSONAL GONAD ATTENDANT.
P.S MY BELIEF IS THAT ONLY A STATE SANCTIONED - CIA OR SIMMILAR COULD PENERTRATE US DEFENCES AND MURDER SO MANY WONDERFULL AMERICANS. R.I.P.
Sorry for my incorrect grammar and spelling i guess me and georgey bush did not pay enough attention in class or is his dopey slow almost retarded demenour an act?...........
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06.02.06 - 5:52 am | #
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Is the halocscan count right? Over 800 posts!
Congrats Steve - looks like you hit the bobble-head Republican jackpot! Desperation must be sinking in.
Well to all you wing-nuts I'll tell you the reason why I have a higher opinion of bacteria than George Bush.
When GWB got a briefing that al-Quida was determined to attack the US, what did the great and glorious cheerleader do? He went fishing!
And there ain't no fact that you can torture that can change that.
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06.25.06 - 8:41 am | #
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Yawn............
The left goes crazy. What again.
No, correction, they've stayed crazy.
Just look at the bullshit spewing from Murtha. The man sufers from limelight disease. The USA is a bigger threat than Iran or N.Korea. Yep, no doubt - when your reality doesn't extend beyond a liberal news source.
Pathetic, but very useful for a few months from now. Open mouth - show ass.
As Tanbark might muse - See you at the midterms, but for Dumbocrats and Demoncrats it will be the finals.
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15 muslims arrested in Canada, 7 wannabes arrested in Florida, more just nabbed in Lebanon. Missiles flying from N.K. and mullahs plotting in Iran....meanwhile.....Lefties just jabber on about a lawyer for every terrorist, appeasement for Iran and North Korea and about how much Bush and Hitler have in common.
Keep it up dummies. You'll get yours in November.
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Was just going through my old posts and followed my link back here again, and damned if it isn't still the best fucking post ever. That's some serious staying power, Steve. Thanks again for this - may it live forever.
And I am frankly amazed at the right-wing fucktards that have the gall to try to inject their idiocy into the comments here. C'mon blue2golf and friends, when will you wake the fuck up? You really think that if you manage to get the last word on this comment thread, you'll somehow negate the painfully evident truth of this post? Dream on.
Mencken was right, I guess - democracy IS the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard. It's just a shame that those who recognize this administration for the continuing American tragedy that it is still have to take it up the ass along with the rest of you sniveling apologist clowns who seem to enjoy it so.
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Steve's rant from last sept. hardly holds up to sunlight and neither do liberal cockroaches like henrichon. If you lefties hate it here so much, please feel free to move to North Korea - the ultimate socialist paradise. But, just like your screecher in chief, Cindy Sheehan, you'll stay here to enjoy the good life while at the same time you undermine everything this country stands for. Thankfully, there are plenty of folks who stand up to cowardly socialists like Steve and henrichon.
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Hey Blue, Why don't you move to Iraq. It is such a wonderful democracy. Don't believe the media..they don't tell the good news.North Korea...you moron.....if you had gone before this dunce Bush was in office, they would have had 5 less nuclear devices, no long range missiles, and would not have ongoing reactors making U232. No one here wants to live in North Korea..Kim is a madman.It is so stuuupid for you to suggest that lefties want to move to that "socialist paradise". We are all capitalists here..socialism and communism are failed philosophies. Hey dunce....no one on the liberal side advocates socialism. Don't be so unremittingly stupid. You arn't living the good life.....poor illiterate clown!!Cindy Sheehan has more brains and integrity than you and your whole neocon ilk combined will ever have. She lost her son in the disaster that you have supported in Iraq. Before you slime her ,you slimeball, volunteer to go over and sacrifice yourself or your son( if you are not a 12 year old kid yourself). You and your scaredy cat friends in the Bush cult are the traitors to our country and our constitution. It is you who is the destroyer of America. "Ohhh please Mr. Bush...protect us from the bad guys..take away our rights that we have struggled for for centuries..make us into little controlled dumb morons...we love you dear leader." You are a sorry excuse for an American.
Marty
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Welcome back Marty,
I've already served my time in the military, Marty, have you? And that comment about liberals not wanting socialism or communism made me laugh out loud. In addition, calling Bush and conservatives traitors for standing up for the U.S.,(and now Israel too), reminded me of why people like yourself are considered useful idiots for bin ladin, just like Hizbollah is for Iran.
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Well Blue, so you already have military training...perfect..sign up and ship out to defend the Bush vision of Democracy..don't be afraid . They throw flowers and candies at you, the great liberators. They love us and it is only the leftwing media telling bad stuff about this glorious success. I am Canadian born, and we had A SMALL VOLUNTARY ARMY WHEN i WAS OF MILITARY AGE.
You laughed out loud...do you always laugh inappropriately. You might need some professional help. I hate communism as an idea, and it has failed miserably. Socialism as they do it in Sweden and Denmark is sort of attractive, but I still prefer Capitalism WITH REGULATIONS. Do you have a clue about how lovely it is in Sweden ..a democratic socialist state. Can you name one Democrat who advocates Communism, or Socialism. Try to use those unused parts of your brain, and think a little.
I called Bush a moron and a liar...not a traitor. It is you and the other neocons who call anyone who disagrees with the Bushistas "traitor". Ever hear of the bill of rights...freedom of speech..of the press...it is part of what is great about America, and you trash this freedom. You are disgusting.
Bin Ladin??? who??? Oh..the guy who attacked us and is still free and making threats along with most of his henchmen. The guy who escaped at Tora Bora because Bush didn't send in the forces and relied on paid warlords.The guy Bush says he doesn't care that much about....I have heard that statement many times...he said it and I guess you believe him since he is your dear leader. We should have gone after the terrorists...they were in Afghanistan, not in Iraq. Now thanks to your incompetent leader and his incompetent Sec.Def Rumsfeld, the terrorists are in Iraq, where Saddam(our previous ally) would not allow them.
Yes I am a traitor along with 4 star Marine General Zinni, 4th I.D General Battiste, General Odom, Nato ex-commander Clark, Francis Fukuyama, and that notorious leftwing traitor William F. Buckley who wrote that the Iraq war is lost. Everyone who disagrees with Bush and the RNC are traitors...because you are such a scared little wuss that if Bush is wrong then ohhh he may not be able to protect ittle Blue from the bad terrorists.God but you are pathetic.
Marty
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Marty,
I could have sworn I saw you in San Fran. marching for Hezbollah today. Was that you with the Palestinian flag denouncing the "occupiers?" I'd be careful if I were you. Your Islamic buddies from that terrorist ring in Ontario could rat you out. Then you'd be back in Canada, awaiting trial. I doubt if you would allow that to happen, though. I'm sure you're gazing longingly at that suicide vest in your closet as you read this post. Go ahead, strap it on and look at yourself in the mirror, you've done it before. Just wait until there are plenty of children around before you hit the switch. You'll make the muslim world so proud when you take out the neo-con threat.
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Yet another idiotic moronic comment...you are such an ass.I hate and loathe Hezbollah...I applaud the destruction of Hezbollah...I hate "suiciders"..I think our aim should be the destruction of Hezbollah and of Hamas...they are on our terrorist list. Hey...moron..can you read English????? I am totally in support of Israel's right to exist in peace and security...the policy that Clinton almost succeded in accomplishing. Arafat was never a true partner, but Clinton tried.
Iraq was NEVER the source of terrorism directed at the US. Saddam was our ally in the war against the real terrorist state..Iran. And how do you ...a big brave and military-trained neocon warrior reconcile this president's partnership with the Saudis, and his Bin Laden business partners. The Saudis were behind 9/11...they have supported the Madrassahs of hate, they fund terrorists, the Saudis and Bin Laden families were flown out of the US 2 days after 9/11 with only a cursory FBI questioning.You know this don't you.If you are such a macho anti-terrorist fighter, how can you defend this outrageous anti American behavior.How about Curt Weldon's exposee of the Able-Danger group who KNEW the terrorists were here before 9/11 and nothing was done...why arn't you outraged by this ineptitude, and where is the accountability for the assholes who disbanded Able-Danger. Or why weren't the FBI heads who did not allow Mousawii's computer to be seized.. investigated...Colleen Rawley exposed them and it was suppressed by the Republican congress..Hey...Neocon..they could have rolled up the cell of Atta..possibly..we will never know.How do you NOT get angry about this incompetency????
If you reply, can you try to write something sensilble, with a few facts included.
Hezballah my ass.
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You are spinning conspiracy theories here. How can a lucid person respond to the lunacies you espouse? "It's all Bush's fault." That's all you lefties have been saying since he assumed office. In addition, you label me a coward for not packing for Iraq, even though I am a U.S. Army veteran. Leftwingers try to make conservatives jump through all sorts of hoops to justify their views, yet lefties are required to do nothing. If you are so fired up against bin ladin, why don't you pack up for the "good war" in Afghanistan? Still got a little too much Canadian in your blood to feel pride in the Stars and Stripes? Maybe you should justify your living in America be serving in her uniform for a few years. I've already done my part. Put up or shut up Marty.
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Hey..I supported Bush when he went into Afghanistan... told you that many times.It is his lying stupid aggression in Iraq that is the most disastrous blunder our nation has ever made.There is no Conspiracy theory here...tell me precisely what that is...I am speaking the truth.You are not lucid..you are a cult follower. You are incapable of seeing that good intelligent patriots (like Marine 4 star General Zinni)might criticize and disagree with Bush...that scares you.You have the disgusting nerve to call me a traitor, and a terrorist suicider...and then say that lefties want conservatives to "jump through hoops".What a despicable viewpoint. I reject you.
I don't have to justify ANYTHING to a warmongering fascist like you.I contribute to society with my skill and dedication, and I am a good ,law abiding , tax paying citizen, and I have a right to speak my mind.
So where is this mass-murderer Osama..your big hero Bush still hasn' caught him,or zawahiri, or Mullah Omar. Great job by this almighty macho AWOL Chickenhawk.
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Here's the scorecard Marty:
Afghanistan: Taliban out, fighting contiues, new gov't still forming but not stopped by a long shot. Every time the Taliban show up, they are slaughtered in large numbers.
Iraq: Bathists out, major fighting continues, new gov't still forming but not stopped by a long shot. Terrorists blow up civillians in large numbers because they cannot stand up to the American military.
Saddam: Captured
His sons: Dead
Al Zarqawi: Dead
Thousands upon thousads Taliban and Al Queada jihadists: Dead
America: About 5,500 dead, thousands wounded. One very big attack on our soil in 5 years.
Left wingers: Endless carping, back stabbing, terrorist enabling, blaming America first while calling Bush another Hitler. Like trying to tread water while wearing a cement swimsuit.
Summary: Tough fight, but we are winning. Fighting spirit of American people still mostly strong, but left wingers try their best to undermine the fight.
Oh yeah....I never made military service a requirement for speaking out on the Terror War, you dumbass liberals did. I served, you did not. By your own lefty reasonings, my view point counts more than yours.
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Once again...as is typical ,you lie to create a straw man argument. You forget that EVERY SINGLE Democrat voted to go after Osama in Afghanistan. We were united to avenge the attack of 9/11.
We are winning?????? We won the "war" against Saddam in 3 weeks. Why not..he had no airforce, Navy and was under sanctions for 10 years. We have the best military on the planet...of course we won. But we have LOST the occupation. We cannot stop the civil war that we have caused.Iraqis are dying by the thousands. We cannot restore the electricity or the oil flow or the security of the Iraqi people. They hate and loathe us, and we stay behind the green zone walls or we get killed. This is a catastrophe for us..our military is stretched to the breaking point...we can no longer project power because of the quagmire we are stuck in. It is a tough and UNECESSARY fight and we are losing..losing....( William F. Buckley).More terrorism now than before we went into Iraq(Madrid, Jordan,London).It has cost 300 BILLION dollars and Bush is asking for 110 billion more. Don't you think we could use that money here at home???Why must we fight and bleed to create a theocratic shiite state allied with Iran?????
The Iraq invasion had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11..Iraq did NOT attack us..Saddam was NOT allied with Al Quaeda...Bush has admitted this. This Iraq war is a waste...an error by the neocons...You call this "carping"?????The war is yours and the Republicans war. It is against the teachings of Jesus and every religion except the religion of the PNAC.You will suffer the wrath of the people in Nov. when the RNC will lose control of the House and hopefully the Senate too.
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Anything is possible come November Marty. We'll just have to see.
The fight in Iraq is the right thing and oddly enough, Al Quaeda agrees with me. Bin ladin is counting on people like yourself to see Bush as the greater evil and make America flee before the terrorist bomber. The devil's greatest deception is to make idiots like yourself believe that he doesn't exist. So far, bin ladin is having great sucess in making you and your lefty traitor buddies feel the same way.
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Ohh cut the shit...it is you and your fascist friends who are the traitors. Bush is the anti-christ.he is the devil....does Christ say to love thy neighbour...to love and help the poor...to be just and turn the other cheek..the prince of peace..did Isaiah not say to beat the swords into ploughshares and make war no more. You are such a dupe..Bush and his cronies are getting filthy rich with this war" on terror". Yes al quaeda agrees with you . They love Bush. The CIA analysis of the 2004 tape by Osama, the CIA thought was an endorsement of Bush.....he has done everything Osama wanted..he cut and ran from the bases in Saudi Arabia, and he invaded an Arab nation ..as a crusader..just like Osama was preaching..Bush and Cheney recruited millions of islamic "suiciders" for al quaeda.Iraq is a disaster...a civil war..and we are spending the blood and guts of our heroes for NOTHING...we will have to leave and will have spent 400 billion and counting. FOR WHAT??????? Bush has destroyed our military. I know you know this...but you are a cult follower and you can't admit it or your head will blow up.Why are we dying for these Arabs who hate us , hate Jews, hate Christians and hate democracy...do you know????? And you got to love Bush demanding that we turn our port security over to a DUBAI government firm...Hey that is a good way to stop a terrorist attack.
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Okay, whatever you say Marty. I am glad to see Condi standing up to the hand wringers at the U.N. who want to blame Israel for the latest war on muslim terror. The euro-crats sure do sound alot like you and your lefty buddies, blaming the victim for fighting back against the forces of muslim evil.
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Blue, How can you unerringly know what I think about Hezballah and Hamas. This is your neocon demibrain at work.I totally support Israel and its right to defend itself.Hezballah and Iran was ALWAYS the enemy...never Iraq, the country that was our ally ...that your dear leader has destroyed.I have NEVER blamed the victim..nor has any democrat I have heard. I am not sure that the method Israel is using will work...I hope so, but it is very destructive of Lebanon.
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Most of your post is the usual brain droppings, except for this.....
"I am not sure that the method Israel is using will work...I hope so, but it is very destructive of Lebanon."
Frankly, I am not so sure either. Air power alone will not win this battle and the Israeli gov't is unwilling to go in on the ground and do the hard work of rooting out the terrorists. As for Lebanon, they have made a deal with the devil and are now paying the price. I hate to see the dead children, but Hizbollah is very ruthless when it comes to using civillians and children as pawns and human shields. Hizbollah starts this latest battle and the world blames Israel when it fights back. It's just business as usual and it's very frustrating to see it all happen again. Now with the mass civillian death count in Qana, the world condemnations rain down upon Israel's head. The world is upside down...
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You see Blue, if you stop all the Limbaugh/Hannity verbiage, all the insulting "anti-liberal" inanities, you can actually make sense, and have a dialogue. This is a lesson learned. We two are both American citizens with all the rights to express our opinions freely and proudly.I agree with your last post, but must respectfully and emphatically disagree with everything else you have written over the last year.
To the degree that Israel alienates the world and her allies, that is the line over which their response becomes counterproductive.They are truly saddened to kill accidentally women, children and innocent civilians.When rockets and bombs are in use, this is the inevitable result....which is why these horrible weapons should only be used when your nation is attacked or under threat of annihilation. In Israel, this is true. In Iraq....the invasion was a total lie. We were not attacked, and under no threat from Saddam( our previous ally). We are worse off now with shiites in control.Iran is the big winner. Do you see this now???
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Marty, SOB! You're back!
...and I must go. I'll square you away later...
Canada. Ya see, I always said you were not an American.
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Soooo Eric...where art thou??? Come on and defend the neocon success in Iraq. Come on and defend the rape of a 14 year old and the murder of her family. Come on and defende tjhe Iraquis (100000) parading and shouting "death to America" Hey what a success by your dear leader. What a disaster, as stated by Republican Chuck Hegel.
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Incase none of you knew, the hurricane in New Orleans was caused by nature, not President Bush. The levy system in New Orleans was completely out of order, completely unable to withhold the punishment Katrina dealt to it. Now, your blame can fall to the people in charge of the levy system, because they are the one's you should have a beef with. End of story, that is the fact, get over it, please.
I could call most of the people posting on this blog a lot of things, but the first thing I though was... "These people can't be over 18 years old." The We Told You So Post is... horrible. It is written like a pissed off 98 pound 16 year old hopped up on his brother's ADD meds. Reading the comments of people.. I'm like what the hell? Yall are praising this scribble of a post? Seriously, I don't care if you're liberal or republican, but cmon guys, you're making yourselves look bad.
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08.08.06 - 1:31 pm | #
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NEWS FLASH:
President Clinton was in office for 8 full years.
N. Korea's leader was also in power, making plans for nuclear development. As well as radical islam building...and buiding...gaining influence...corrupting..as we did nothing.
If Hitler can be compared to modern americans, then you all embody his hate for the world completely.
Quit cussing, quit hating, and come up with a solution. Cause I haven't heard a damn thing from yall about how to solve this, you simply spew hate.
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08.08.06 - 1:38 pm | #
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Osama is revealed to be the mastermind behind 9/11.
Osama can't be found despite America's strongest efforts.
Osama, due to his lack of an image, is soon forgotten as americans scurry to blame someone.
Republicans blame radical islam and corrupt mid-east dictators.
Liberals blame president bush.
You decide which side to join, me? I'm going with the republicans.
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08.08.06 - 1:56 pm | #
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Post 9/11 Ideolgy
Liberal: *Crying* President Bush wants to kill your family and destroy america! Radical Islamists are just misunderstood and really love you!
Republican: *Head held high* We will fight radical islam on any front, destroy any evil dictator, and defend the rights of all people's of earth so that one day every man, woman and child is free from people like Osama and Saddam.
Again, you decide which party is productive and going after the right thing to do. I can't make you change your mind, and I'm not going to try to. (In my opinion most of you are pretty hopeless on this.)
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West....what are you blabbering about.Republicans have spent 300 to 400 BILLION dollars to get a disaster in Iraq...so Muqtada Sadr can have a demonstration of 100000 Iraquis shouting Death to America and Death to Israel..so al Maliki can demand we not attack terrorists in Baghdad. We are in the middle of a civil war.The Shiites are in control and they are allied with Iran....Iran West..one of the axis of evil. Iran who supports and supplies Hezballah..Iran who wants nuclear weapons.. Hezballah their proxy who blew up our Marines in Beirut, and Ronny Reagan the great Republican hero cut and ran.Yes the Republican Bush wanted to put Dubai ports International in control of our ports security. Where is your brain West.. stop watching Fox news and listening to Rush .
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Ok, Marty, first off you could have been a lot more rude to me but you did seem to show a little respect so thanks. That's all I ask.
Now for Iraq. We can't pull out, it would be writing a death ticket to the future generations of Iraqies. We have to continue, and deliever an iron-fisted smack down to anyone there who doesn't support democracy. That may not be what Bush or the next president does, but it is what I would do. Any enemy of democracy, we must understand, is an enemy to you and I and everyone else who gives a damn about anything.
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West...Think upon what you say...."an iron-fisted smack-down". Like what more do you want our 135000 troops to do???Nothing we have done has worked...the situation is worse every week.These people hate us...hate christians and jews, hate an army nof crusaders who invaded their nation and have killed 100000 of their citizens, hate us for humiliating their men at Abu Ghraib, for raping their women, killing and murdering at Hamoudiya and Haditha..even if it were isolated criminal acts of out of control soldiers.We should not be there in the first place.It was an unjust and stupid aggression based on lies. Their lives are incomprehensibly worse after Bush's war..it is Algeria again. It is VietNam on steroids.What smack-down are you talking about..explain. We are not going to try to stay in Iraq are we????Permanent bases...a huge 900 million dollar embassy..control the oil?????We have truly fucked up Iraq, whether we stay or leave there will ge chaos...there is chaos now.
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So you want the children of the middle east to continure to be brought up on lies and hate, because fighting evil is difficult?
In one word I can describe yall:
Pussies
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08.09.06 - 1:36 pm | #
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West What is your point. No one wants children in the middle east or in the west to be brought up on lies and hate.The Arab imams have been spewing hatred for christians and jews for decades and the majority of muslems cannot influence them for fear of their lives.How does invading and massacring Iraqi Arabs improve this attitude?????You know that the Bush ally the Saudi govnt. has and continues to fund the madrassahs in Pakistan teaching this hatred.Bush is a close personal friend of the Bin Laden millionaire family.Do you support Bush's intervention after 9/11 to let the Saudi royals to flee the US in an evacuation without an investigation????? These Saudis KNEW the attack was coming before 9/11. Why didn't they warn us???If you want the children to grow up loving the west, how can you possibly support this catastrophe of an administration.
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wife B. Bush is in the kitchen, fixing her husband george w. some tea and thinking to herself this is not the man that married me. He has become a little man child playing with a yo-yo. thinking he is in charge but a man named osama fooled him into a war where her husband george w. has killed more americans than osama ever could have and is at this moment killing more human lives than the world trade center 1st and 2nd hits. Baby bush give this nation a black eye week after week. We can not break the pattern. We can not complain and we can not speak. well anyway it only hurts when we laugh and when we eat. That is quite a cut on the side of your head. Is it from his fist are did you really fall out of bed. One on the nose, one on the chin we bruse so easy so why do we stay with him. george W. uses us like a heavey punching bag week after week the bruses show and other countries see this and laugh at us omasoma plan has worked well and baby bush fell right into this man's plan. osama must have know baby bush would be blinded by OIL money$$$$ and go on with his killing spree for $$$$ black oil, young men and woman's spilling their red blood for this man child..think about that on your way to your second of three jobs. I have three jobs to just get in this baby bush surpreme court appointed presidency. I can only hope for a better brighter tommow...
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Baby bush, surpreme court appointed president. I see so little hope in you, so much despair. As I look into your eyes I wonder what thoughts linger there. Life means nothing to you at least thats what I see, but that does not mean you have the right to take lives away. How were we to know what was going on inside your mad mind. You never let it show what was going on behind those killer's eyes, killer's eyes, killer's eyes. I seen your picture in the paper and I see those killer eyes with no compassion. You kept a secret deep inside your mad mind in those killer's eyes. You think the world is full of bullshit, so it gives you the right to kill as you see fit and send poor souls to hell. When you young you dreamed of out doing daddy bush well baby bush you are just a man child where life means nothing to you. You are just a man child which plays with a yo-yo while real men and woman have to work seven days a week to help save lives and be productive and try to be happy in a killing world you have produced...wear that dark jacket, becuase your jacket is killing, baby bush surpreme court appointed president you have become a hero in the muslim world.
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I am laughing from across the pond. i've been calling him Chancy Gardner forever.
A fan.
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Double standard with “the n-word”
It is two-faced of civil rights leaders to make a mountain out of mole hill with the comedian/actor Michael Richards’s affair where he used the word "nigger" multiple times. Black comedians on the Black Entertainment Channel can scream "nigger" and the audience will scream with laughter with some almost falling out of their chairs. Pardon my French, but if a Nigger says "nigger" he is not engaged in a racist tirade and he can get paid top dollar for doing it.
Sillier yet, the word "nigger" is so taboo that some people are expected to make reference to it by saying "the n-word". We do not have a "g-word" for "gringo", nor an "r-word" for "rag head", "c-word" for "camel jockey", "d-word" for "dago", "s-word" for "slant eyes", "j-word" for "jew boy", "p-word" for "pale face", "h-word" for "honkey", or other nicknames for "peckerwoods", "white boys", "chink", "greaser", "chili stomper", "redneck", "yellow monkeys", "gooks", "beaners", "mojados", "pollocks", "ruszkis", "dinks", or other ethnic slurs.
The man was mouthing off at a night club where folks expect some insults anyway. Black folks, especially the civil rights leaders, ought to be able to roll with the punches like everyone else.
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12.30.06 - 6:52 am | #
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Damn,
My IQ just went down 4 points after reading this garbage, worry not, as I have plenty to spare, mother fucker. Thanks anyway, your stupidity is far more entertaining than the evening news.
You are the brain washed puppet my friend. I really should start giving the media more credit, they must make a delicious cup of Kool-Aide. 
Cherio
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I feel bad for poor George and I am going to send him a blessing from www.onlineblessings.com.
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01.11.07 - 12:44 am | #
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How DARE they leave those alligators down there with nothing to eat but nasty old nigger corpses!?! Don't they realize that those gators are on of the main engines of tourism in the Louisiana bayous?!? Get these gators a proper diet this instant!!!!
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Wow...just came back to the site after a year. Instead of moron Repub licans we now read racist and hate-filled garbage from bigots. THE ONLY DIRECTION FROM HERE IS DOWN.
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I think that most of you are part of the problem, so many of you talk shit, but don't vote, I bet more then 2/3 of you did not vote. So you get what you vote for and if you did not vote shut up until you vote. We have never had a president that did not make a mistake and you can not make everybody happy. Stop your crying, get off your butts and work for a better government and VOTE.
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Mr. Chandler,
I ALWAYS vote. This President deserves no sympathy because "We have never had a president that did not make a mistake and you can not make everybody happy. ". He has rarely made a decision which WAS NOT a mistake. He lies interminably. He invaded a foreign land and is attempting a permanent occupation in order to give the major oil corps. control over Iraqi oil resources.This malfeisance deserves impeachment of him and his whole cabal.
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Bush is the worst president ever,but 9/11 was on the level.THE ONLY GOOD MUSLIM IS A DEAD MUSLIM.
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Welcome back Steve. But, what are you trying to say here? Don't sugar coat it now.
The fresh air of a Gilliard Jeremiad.
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