Looks like the same chasuble as the one in the rotating picture on this blog.


Gravatar I believe Fr Anthony Conlon was the subdeacon in the wonderful Solemn High Mass video from Our Lady of the Angels, Bayswater. Come to think of it, wouldn't that be a good training video to disseminate widely again? (includes low Mass and Benediction as well)


Gravatar Is it Father Conlon or Monsignor Conlon? His biretta would appear to have an amaranth tuft.

Just curious.


Gravatar Pete,

It is indeed the same set.

One clarification on the vestments; it wouldn't surprise me if Luzar is providing many of the vestments, they certainly did so for the Oxford CIEL conference; this particular set is privately owned.


Gravatar Of Monsignor and Father:

No matter which he is, since Paul VI's motu proprio of 1969, only those Monsignori who are Protonotaries Apostolic de numero participanti and various other officials of the Roman Curia are permitted to wear a crimson tuft on their black birettas.

Of the vestments:

What a pleasure to see a celebration of the More Ancient Use which doesn't feature lace and fiddleback vestments, particularly in a Gothic setting like this. Shawn, I also very much like the set pictured, particularly the chasuble, although I think the clavi on the dalmatics are a little too wide.
Michael.


Gravatar Also the choir ambo is very edifying!


Gravatar I recall looking at it closely when there. The top piece swivels.

The piece is actually pre-reformation in age and is considered one of the finest such pieces.


Gravatar Actually, its the wide clavi that I think is particularly edifying on these.

Were I to design vestments, I would actually use these as a kind of template.


Gravatar Clavi of that width is not the ancient way: in the width of these clavi, the dalmatic is taken over with ornament. And it also causes the dalmatic to "sit" imperfectly.


Gravatar But then let's remember that the ancient way is not something we are strictly tied to; there is development and variation -- mind you, how many extant examples do we have to know what variations may not have been present in this regard, and can we rely on manuscript art to really show us such a level of detail, down to whether the clavi are 2 inches or 5 inches?

I would have to disagree with you on the idea that the dalmatic is taken over by the ornament here. Not at all. In this case, the clavi are quite clearly visible and recognizeable.

At any rate, I don't think any of this is important. They are beautiful, edifying vestments.


Gravatar Sorry Shawn, I'm not going to be drawn into your way of debating again.


Gravatar Michael,

It's not about "my way of debating" (I'm not even sure what that is, but I digress), my point, as it always is in these matters, is about ascertaining what are absolutes and what are not, and remembering there is room for development, variation and so forth.

As for my preference for wider clavi, its purely a personal preference which I happen to like for various stylistic reasons. I recognize that someone, like yourself, could prefer something else.

At the end of the day, let's remember, we both agree these are beautiful and worthy vestments.


Gravatar The choir ambo does revolve and it was used to great effect yesterday during the Mass. The Ordinary was on one side, and the Propers on the other, and the excellent schola turned the ambo around when needed.

Incidentally, I thought the execution of the chant yesterday was one of the best I have ever heard. It was a transport of delight!


Gravatar Fr Conlon's biretta: I believe the tuft is to do with his being a chaplain of the Order of Malta.


Gravatar As far as I can gather, Fr Conlon is considered a Mons. when acting officially for the Order of Malta, for which he is a chaplain. Otherwise he is Fr.
He is a wonderful priest.
Confusing!


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