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Gravatar I suspect that there might have been several pirated recordings made of this event, and if one lands in my inbox I will certainly pass it on!

By all means! We gotta hear this.


Gravatar "It was a special pleasure for me personally to see William Mahrt take the role of subdeacon here"

As straw subdeacon, I suppose?


Gravatar For the Feast of the Assumption the propers are different than the ones you mentioned. The introit for instance is "Signum Magnum", not "Gaudeamus". I know their was a change sometime after the thirties, but is it still correct to do the older propers?


Gravatar It makes since to me.
At my parish at school, there is so much fuss with the two motets and we sing the Rossini propers, and I always ask why we not kill two birds with one stone (since we only have one stone) and sing polyphonic propers.


Gravatar regarding 'straw' subdeacons, some information from the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei on this subject may be viewed at: http:// saintbedestudio.blogspot....01_archive.html

As I read it, in the absence of a priest or deacon it is permissable for a layman instituted as an acolyte to serve as subdeacon. One must recall that it is the 1983 Code of Canon Law which obtains even for the extraordinary form.

How parishes or chaplaincies exclusively celebrating the EF come to have laymen instituted as acolyte or lector given that this would (most?) normally arise through the OF is another question. To my mind that would be desirable but might entail a range of issues being worked through.


Gravatar Jeffrey,

Unfortunately for those who aren't, not all of us can be Georgians and Alabamians. Heat scares them. It's kind of funny, actually. But then they get to laugh at how we react to the smallest of snowflakes (utter, Apocalyptic panic).


Gravatar With all respect to the CED responsum, which seems to deal with the case of how to treat the modern ministry of acolyte in the context of the Extraordinary form, it was the practice in religious orders, including mine, for lay brothers, who had received no minor order whatsoever, to serve as "straw" subdeacons in solemn Masses, this in the 1950s.


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