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That's better, despite the heinous shirt!


Arrest that goaler!!!!1™


So now the Sens can't beat bottom feeders OR good teams.

That can't be good huh?


Gravatar So what is that one win in five games now?


Gravatar 51 shots but Michalek and Kovalev combined for just 3 shots.


Gravatar 1 in 5 is better than 1 in 11.

And the shot total just shows the support crew can play too.


Gravatar Arrest that goaler!!!!1™

Or pick him up in your hockey pool.


Gravatar Picked him up weeks ago. Handsome 9.00 points off him today.

If the Leafs beat the Habs and this will be a great Halloween so far.


Gravatar Also, glad to see Antropov and Kubina doing well. There are some players you hope do well after they leave your city, and then there's Alex Rios who you are so happy he was even more of a dud.


Gravatar Look at that. There's nothing like a couple of overtime losses to bring the leaf fans out of their shells. Keep chirping away from all the way down there, guys.


Gravatar 1 in 5 is better than 1 in 11.

Make that 1 in 12.

Its looking like the leafs will need somewhere between 8 and 11 PPs to win a game. 7 PPs doesn't seem to be quite enough.


Gravatar this just in, Toskala is terrible...still


Gravatar The Leafs are getting a lot of "thanks for coming out" points.


Gravatar The Leafs are getting a lot of "thanks for coming out" points.

It would be funny if the Leafs finished with a 1-7-74 record.


Gravatar well...it's better than no points....


Gravatar Ugh, are we ever going to revert to the speedy, attack-oriented team we were before?

Hopefully with Spez back next week we paste the Lightning. Two losses to the Lightning in under a week would be an embarassment.

Man, Volchenkov is getting a massive salary increase I can feel it...


Gravatar 11 losses in 12 games is an embarassment.

Losing to Lecavalier, St. Louis & Stamkos not so much. But Spezz & A-Train have definitely shown their worth by subtraction.


Gravatar 11 losses in 12 games is an embarassment.

While this is absolutely true, I t hink it's time at this point to take Muppet's advice and worry about our team.

Toronto isn't going anywhere. So they make the worst measuring stick in the league.

Ottawa is, and should be, still ahead of Montreal and Boston. But we've got to stay there or else it's going to be nigh impossible to make the playoffs.


Gravatar I am looking forward to seeing how the Senators do in November. They had a pretty soft October schedule but after their game Thursday against Tampa they play New Jersey, Edmonton, Philadelphia, NY Rangers, Toronto, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Washington and then New Jersey again. That'll be a good test. The next 10 games are going to be quite telling as to how the Senators season will go.


Gravatar they play New Jersey, Edmonton, Philadelphia, NY Rangers, Toronto, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Washington and then New Jersey again

"One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?

Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?
If you guessed this one (Toronto),/b>is not like the others,
Then you're absolutely...right!"


Gravatar Losing to Lecavalier, St. Louis & Stamkos not so much. But Spezz & A-Train have definitely shown their worth by subtraction.

Interesting. Leafs actually get points from three playoff positioned teams, teams with stars just like the ones you mentioned, and no respect from you at all? Leafs have played most of the season missing BOTH their #1 and #2 goaltenders PLUS our best forward, and still, them losing in OT and getting a point gets no respect.

Sens get beat by a team that will not make the playoffs and hasn't been good for years, and it's perfectly OK because hey they have some good players and the Sens are missing two.

I guess all is fair in love and war.


Gravatar Leafs have played most of the season missing BOTH their #1 and #2 goaltenders PLUS our best forward, and still, them losing in OT and getting a point gets no respect.

Who's the #1 and #2 goalies? Does your team have a #1? Does it even have a #2 when you're looking at an unproven rookie who has made one highlight goal?

Adn what's this about "our best forward"? I'm assuming you're referring to Kessel. Can you really establish that he's your best forward prior to him playing a game? He excelled last year on a wholly different team and has had a career altering shoulder injury he's just been ok'd to test in a game situation. That's really, really bold. I think Burka was, for the first time ever perhaps, the only level headed guy saying he's only one guy.

Your best forward may end up being Kaberle.


Gravatar them losing in OT and getting a point gets no respect.

Them losing in OT and getting a point gets no respect.

No. I really don't see a difference whether you lose 1-0 on a goal scored 7.4 seconds from the opening faceoff or 1-0 at 4:59 of OT. Shootout, maybe, but not where the winning team in that situation goes to OT pretty much every single game.


Gravatar Few Sens fans on here have said the Senators are league toppers this year as acknowledged by the comments in re: Volchenkov and Spezza. This being the BoO, all the Sens need to beat is the Leafs.

Sens are missing two./i>
You forgot about Leclaire & the flu and a top 3 D-man (Kuba). Just so the accounting is straight.


Gravatar Fuck you, HTML™


Gravatar No. I really don't see a difference whether you lose 1-0 on a goal scored 7.4 seconds from the opening faceoff or 1-0 at 4:59 of OT.

I do.

It's called a point in the standings.

Getting a point from a game is different than getting no points in a game. Not because of when you lost, or how or why, but because you lost but still got a point.

Lose in OT/SO = 1 point
Lose regulation = 0 point

So while you don't see a difference there actually really is one.
No really, there just is. Not up for interpretation. A fact. Plain and simple. End of story. Tie the bow. Throw some icing on it and take it home. Aucune discussion nécessaire. 端.


Gravatar Good. Keep doing it and see if you can make the playoffs.


Gravatar No. I really don't see a difference whether you lose 1-0 on a goal scored 7.4 seconds from the opening faceoff or 1-0 at 4:59 of OT. Shootout, maybe, but not where the winning team in that situation goes to OT pretty much every single game.


I know exactly what you mean and you are bang on. When referring to Toronto (which you were), losing in OT is useless.

If you were referring to other teams (which you CLEARLY were not), you would be wrong as other teams are able to win games as well. Combine those 2 point wins with a couple OT losses, you may be able to make the playoffs.

In Toronto's case, when you can't even win 1 in every 10 games, losing in OT or shootout is USELESS.

Point well made THM!


Gravatar I guess, at the moment, the Leafs are safe over any team that goes 0.500 with only regulation losses then.


Gravatar In Toronto's case, when you can't even win 1 in every 10 games, losing in OT or shootout is USELESS.

Every point changes the dynamics of something, even if it's not much of a difference in the standings.

Those single point nights may not be the difference between making or not making the playoffs this season, but a single OT loss might be the difference between Boston or Nashville being the team that picks first overall next June.

OT losses instead of losses might determine how Burke behaves at the trade table, including what he does at trade deadline.

OT losses as opposed to straight up losses might save Wilson his job for while.

A few OT losses as opposed to losses might make Toskala look just a little better and garner the Leafs a 2nd round pick at deadline instead of a 3rd.


Gravatar Etc. Etc.


Gravatar 1 out of 4 isn't bad.

It's better than the Leafs.


Gravatar Hey, just noticed Michalek is on pace for 53 points. Cheechoo is on pace for 13 points.

That's 63 points.

Heatley is on pace for 92 points.
Almost 30 more than the two guys he was traded for.

So far, and I do mean so far since it's only 12 games in, Doug Wilson is winning this trade by a huge margin. If Murray had at least gotten some salary savings maybe it wouldn't look so bad, but Heatley costs $200K more than those guys.


Gravatar Great math. That's as far as I got. I don't listen much to kids in Grade 1.


Gravatar 63? WOW!


Gravatar I convinced myself to try and get past the first 3 sentences of that post and I fully regret it.

First of all, I can't speak for the Sens fans on this site as I wasn't around when that trade went down; but I can't imagine to many Sens fans said they won thar trade from an offensive stats standpoint.

Anyway, who really gives a crap about point pace this early in the season. How many points are the Leafs on pace for and weren't you just defending them?

Sens won that trade based on ridding themselves of Heatley and his selfish attitude. That is saying nothing of the cap hit relief (Cheechoo will be gone) next year when they really need it.

If you can't recognize having Heatley gone from the dressing room is a win by itself, than you are really showing your hockey IQ. Remember, you just showed us your math IQ not to long ago as well.


Gravatar Sorry to say Rr but we've got Cheechoo for next year at 3.5 as well.


Gravatar If you dont think he will be bought out or shipped out you haven't stayed on top of the situation.


Gravatar Anyway, who really gives a crap about point pace this early in the season. How many points are the Leafs on pace for and weren't you just defending them?

So what you're saying is that it's still early and you can't judge anything quite yet? Does this way of thinking about the NHL on November 1st only apply to Ottawa and not Toronto, in your mind? It would seem you're making lots of sweeping remarks about my team 12 games in.

Perhaps you will think back to what you just said next time you say the Leafs getting OT/SO points are USELESS because they can't even win 1 in every 10 games.

As far as the Heatley situation, I know full well what a distraction he would have been, but just because you hate your ex you don't sell your $1000 wedding ring for $25. You get the most value.

The Sens could have removed Heatley from the room AND gotten good value. Maybe time will show Murray accomplished this. Right now however he hasn't. Just like the Leafs can't win more than a game in every dozen they play.

Funny how it feels a lot earlier in the season once your looking at your own teams shortcomings huh?


Gravatar Hey, just noticed Michalek is on pace for 53 points

That same pace would give Michalek 40 goals thereby making him a full-fledged NHL sniper that half of what Heatley costs without all the bullshit.

Isn't math fun?


Gravatar equating guys who play for winners with teams that van win is capital l capital a capital m capital e. Or, more likely capital ignorant.


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