This is outrageous. What's next? Jacque Chirac running for governor of Massachusetts?
Back in the day when someone worked for two national governments we called them a spy and they were hung. Now we are going to call them statesmen? This is a recipe for disaster if we allow it to continue.
I'm trying to get steamed up over this one, really I am.
grrr. . . !
Sorry, that's the best I can do.
Will this be the first time a US citizen with political clout at home (as lawmakers or something equally influential) interacted in an official advisory capacity (be they elected or appointed) with a foreign government?
Plenty of Irish have worked to help get Irish illegals citizenship and in this country. Form politicians to lawyers to pub owners to very influential businessman.
When I here he typical complaints about blacks and Mexicans especialy from people of Irish lineage I ask you to consider the road that our race has walked in our country and how similar it is to the MExican and black and other minority. Look at the last 50 years worth of Presidents and count how many have Irish blood in them. Look at the CEOs of major corporations in this country and count the Irish among them, look at the Senators and Congresman on both sides of the aisle.
We've worked hard to reach these positions in society. I see Mexicans as very hardworking and by and large starting to climb the ladder of of our society.
If you look into it you will find many in our bloodline ame to this country illegally. We faced the same sorts of discrimination as mexicans and blacks. We overcame discriminaion and Meicans and Blacks will too.
This has nothing to do with race but rather patriotism. I would welcome any Mexican citizen who passed through our immigration system to renounce his/her Mexican citizenship and become a U.S. Citizen.
Mexican-Americans and legal immigrants should be encouraged to be proud of both their old and new heritages, whether or not they are required to relinquish their native citizenship.
How much influence do you think prominent Israeli-Americans have in policy decisions of both Israel and the US? Wouldn't you agree there is the possibility for very real conflict of interest here? I'll quietly await the Brain Droppings outrage du jour thread that focuses on that issue.
Yes, I realize I am in for a long wait.
AMQ, are there any elected U.S. officials currently in office who have also been elected to office in another country and are currently serving that other country?
AVQ,
There is a big difference between informal influence and formal power. Many influential Americans have ties to foreign countries. It isn't just Israeli-Americans that have undue influence in shaping American foreign policy. This is true of many other dual nationalities which are well organized politically. (Why was it that Gerry Adams was issued a visa?) I'm a little uncomfortable with all of this, but I see nothing that can realistically be done about it. I'm opposed to dual citizenship, but it is, I believe, a constitutional right. Yes, there are conflict of interest issues. They are impossible to avoid in any regard -- just look at how Saudi Arabia is able to buy influence, for instince. But this is different by an order of magnitude.
As I recall, it is unconstitutional for a federal office holder to accept any office, trust or the like from any foreign government. But I'm not sure about state office holders. (Any attorneys out there care to weigh in?)
What Mexico is doing is unprecedented. This 'advisory council' is a trojan horse, a precursor to full representation of Mexican-Americans in Mexico City, with representatives apportioned among American states in the same way as they are in our House of Representatives, only with a racially exclusive component. It's deliberately divisive, a bid to keep Mexican-Americans seperate from America's political process. It's a really bid to share sovereignty among Mexican-Americans with the US. Fundamentally, this a hostile, expansionist action and should be treated as such.
Diego, I don't know the answer to that question.
John O,is it your opinion that the "'advisory council' is a trojan horse, a precursor to full representation of Mexican-Americans in Mexico City," or something substantiated in memoranda from those involved?
Trojan horse was probably a poor metaphor. A camel's nose under the tent is more appropriate.
Mexico is very open about what they are trying to accomplish: Retaining a seperate identity and loyalty to Mexico among Americans of Mexican decent and the illegals they encourage to come here. Aided and abetted by the multiculturalists among us, assimilation of the old hyphenated kind is to be discouraged. Not even the new, multicultural ampersand variety is acceptable unless the Mexican part is emphasized. All one needs to do is listen to Mexican officials to discern this. But to answer your question directly, yes, I think there is a paper trail. Judging from what I've heard Fox say and what I've read on the website (www.sre.gob.mx/ime) its an easy conclusion to reach.
Thanks. Way to give me a website 80% in Spanish to make me feel dumb. 
I need my 7 year old to translate for me.
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