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Staff writer Charlie Reed has portrayed the college in a poor light. He implies that the college should have alerted police. Why? This teacher was no longer an employee, the college had nothing to report other than rumors.
Had IRCC reported this teacher to the police, it would have created a public record, and may have opened itself up to defending a defamation lawsuit.
Mr. Reed should be more careful in the future when he implies that something was improper.
Sometimes this paper tries to make a bigger issue where none exists.
7:49:59 a.m. on August 10, 2005
JIM JOHNSON |
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Oh yeah, the title of the article says "IRCC instructor resigns over allegations of affair with teen"
But buried in the article it says "He said his resignation from IRCC was unrelated to the situation."
Which is it?
7:51:54 a.m. on August 10, 2005
JIM JOHNSON |
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Good point jim. I recognized that two. The article's title and what you gather from the context of the article contradict each other. That is not good.
8:09:42 a.m. on August 10, 2005
KEISHA HURST |
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Jim your all over the tuff stuff.
8:17:56 a.m. on August 10, 2005
JAHMAL KELLI |
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The first paragraph leads one to believe the story is something else entirely....
Why write an article? It doesn't sound like a story after all.
8:18:58 a.m. on August 10, 2005
LONGTIME RESIDENT |
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You know what sucks? The CALC is a really great idea and a wonderful place for these kids. Does anyone realize what this kind of stuff will do to that school and its reputation? How sad that would be if, in fact, these allegations were untrue.
8:29:04 a.m. on August 10, 2005
JESSICA WASSUNG |
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who cares, this happens all the time and nothing is printed. write about things that are important, stay away from rumors that only spread by people who have ntohing better to do.. Too many important things to worry about than this....
8:50:23 a.m. on August 10, 2005
SYLVIA MCGOWAM |
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Mr, Tullier did have an affair w/ a student while she was underage. He is a sick individual. I do know this for a fact!!!! His affair started when this girl was 17 and way before his offical date of July 23rd!@!!! Mr. Tullier will eventually be exposed for what he really is, a sexual offender.
8:52:06 a.m. on August 10, 2005
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9:18:45 a.m. on August 10, 2005
BILL GATES |
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jim johnson shut up and mind you own buisness whats a matter you jeaslous again cause you cant get a piece of [removed]
9:20:56 a.m. on August 10, 2005
BILL GATES |
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Regardless of anything, the guy sure sounds like a real schmuck. Any 30 yr old dating a teen even if eighteen, has some real social problems. Obviously he's too immature for women his own age, in fact, most women who are thirty are definately smarter. Thye probably wouldn't have him, so he had to go for an immature female who's not old enough to know there is better out there.
And MARRIED none the less! Also an adulterer. His wife is much better off without that kind of scum in her life. Poor kids though, daddy is an idiot.
10:28:45 a.m. on August 10, 2005
MY FREETIME |
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You know what? I don't know anything about this guy and woman (she's 18. she can vote), but let me say this: My Mother was 15 when she married my father and he was 28. They stayed married longer than the young idiots do no a days. They stayed married over 20 yrs., and then it was my mother who wanted the divorce. They never stopped talking and getting along.
The young punks now days are into their drugs, and wigger clothes, and I'm sure they are a total turn off to a young woman with half a brain. It seems that these two are, if nothing else, ambitious, and beautiful. Leave them the heck alone. Jealous, bitter, jaded old women who complain do nothing for me. If I ever am in a situation that I have to look for another wife, and I doubt I will seeing as how I am happily married to a beautiful woman my age, and have been for 26 yrs., I will definitely go for a younger woman. I couldn't stand waking up to an old sour puss who exhausted her zeal for life many years ago. Most my age have been married and divorced 2 or 3 times, have five kids, and all kinds of baggage. Don't need the headache.
sonicbuffalo
11:16:52 a.m. on August 10, 2005
CHRISTOPHER JONES |
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I have know Damien and Laura before they were "Damien & Laura", basically since they were children. He is a selfish, self-centered, spoiled, immature little jerk! I promise you he was raised FAR better than this, and comes from a large, loving, close-knit and deeply religious family. He was far from unloved or under-appreciated so please don't make tired excuses for his disgusting behavior. Damien, you have betrayed your wife, children, family and your PROFESSION! We do not send our children to school to be a dating pool for teachers. You are no better than Mary Kay, Pam and the others.You took advantage of a situation. Wether you had sex with her or not (please!) before she was 18, you had a RELATIONSHIP with a minor, outside of your marriage and behind Laura's back. It is a shame that you decided to show your a** in such a stunningly public, and completely ammoral way. Way to go Damien! I am sure your babies are so proud. I am sure they understand that Daddy has "needs". It is nauseating to see you gleefully [removed] on your family for the privilege of bouncing up and down on a CHILD ! Laura, you have always had beauty and grace. Kiss your babies and make tracks from this loser. You deserve FAR, FAR better. God will watch over you and your sweet babies. We are sending healing prayers to Laura, her children, and the Tullier Family.
11:45:26 a.m. on August 10, 2005
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WOw, she just riped him a new one. After A C post, I dont think any even needs to respond...lol
12:49:19 p.m. on August 10, 2005
JAHMAL KELLI |
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This is Liz, I am Damien's 16 year old neice and I am absolutely heartbroken and disgusted by him. I hope you do know that our family BESIDES HIM...does have class!! This has affected me in drastic measure and I greive for Laura because she deserves FAR better than this! He is sick and is a pathological liar! Our whole family does not support him AT ALL and hopefully one day he will realize the hurt and pain he has caused our whole family, ESPECIALLY Laura and my Grandfather! Please pray that God gives us strength to make it through this and that David will realize what he has done!
1:03:53 p.m. on August 10, 2005
SHANNON HAMMOND |
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Why does the above listing say it's Liz, the 16 year old neice. Then on the bottom it says that Shannon Hammond wrote it????
1:17:12 p.m. on August 10, 2005
A KURIT |
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Not that it is either here or there A KURIT, but Shannon is her Mom.
1:19:14 p.m. on August 10, 2005
A C |
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This is Malinda, I grew up with David and his family. You people who don't know him and are supporting "LOVE" are idiots. They are not in love they are two sickos who have stuck it to Laura and both of their families. Laura was a wonderful wife to Damien and he did not deserve her. I am pleased to know that both sides of the families have rallied around Laura and the kids. They are the victims here. Damien, GROW UP!! Noone is impressed. I would like to extend my sympathy to the family. I love you guys. Look to HIM for answers and comfort at this time.
1:20:00 p.m. on August 10, 2005
MALINDA EMBREY |
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By the way, before the questions start Damien used to go by the name David when he was younger.
1:24:26 p.m. on August 10, 2005
A C |
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If and when a proper investigation is done, the authorities will surely discover that Damien is portraying several lies in responding to this article. There will be people interviewed that will disclose that the affair was ongoing way before the school year ended and may have been ongoing prior to this little girl having her 18th birthday. Only time will tell. I truly hope the real truth and not Damiens version comes out at the conclusion of any future investigation.
Concerned
1:40:23 p.m. on August 10, 2005
THOMAS ASH |
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I am sorry for all you family members who have to deal with this poor behavior of these two.
As for Chris Jones, I'm approaching 40 and have yet to find an educated, moral, honest "do the right thing" single, never been married man who is not bitter from past women or has not yet "exhausted his zeal for life" as you put it. Most men my age are divorced, sometimes several times, with children (who are the most important things in their life), and emotional baggage, and they are all looking for women with a maximum age at least 2 years younger than they are. Like they're 39 looking for women 18 to 35.
I see men my age who are already old and withered and tired.
I'm about to pull a "Demi" and find a younger guy I can retrain to be a good man. I'm single, never married and want to travel the world, looking for a man my age with no baggage that can keep up with me.
1:42:33 p.m. on August 10, 2005
MY FREETIME |
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"Mr. Reed should be more careful in the future when he implies that something was improper."
Just so you know, Mr. Johnson, Charlie Reed is actually a female.
2:08:28 p.m. on August 10, 2005
BRANDON TEMPLE |
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Once this guy figures out that all they have in common is "in the sack" he'll probably coming back to his wife begging.
Hopefully she doesn't take him back.
3:39:42 p.m. on August 10, 2005
LONGTIME RESIDENT |
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Having read this story a few times, I think that any ostensible bias was due to the headline--that is, the words that the reader sees first and that stay with him through however much of the article he reads. As several readers pointed out, the body and original headline contradicted each other, so it seems reasonable to say that, if the headline was wrong, the story itself presents the information fairly.
My point: Reporters do not write their own headlines. So rather than directing blame at a reporter who wrote a story, direct it at the person responsible for the headline--in this case, me. Unfortunately, I don't have the energy to start reading every article in our three dailies in its entirety at 11 or 12 at night. Also unfortunate is when that inability manifests itself in an error like this.
It's easy to say Ms. Reed portrayed Mr. Tullier or the school unfairly because her name is public. But it would also be inaccurate. I think my mistake from before proves inaccuracy is not something to leave unaddressed.
Danny Kind
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TCPalm.com
3:56:18 p.m. on August 10, 2005
DANIEL KIND |
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I've seen the pictures on the internet, and let me tell you by the looks of it there is nothing "business like" going on there. There are pictures of them in a hotel room. Look at the pictures for yourself at
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Now you be the judge....
She's better without him!
4:03:40 p.m. on August 10, 2005
TANYA RINCHACK |
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To whom it may concern:
How sad it is for the CALC and for those who are deceived because in fact, these allegations are true.
4:30:04 p.m. on August 10, 2005
LAURA TULLIER |
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well, I would like to see the pictures, does anyone have them?
4:42:07 p.m. on August 10, 2005
JAHMAL KELLI |
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I am sorry, but I would like to know are the races of these two people. Can someone please tell me.
4:44:04 p.m. on August 10, 2005
JAHMAL KELLI |
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Who cares what race they are?
I'm guessing Jahmal is black? Just a guess. Again, though, who cares?
4:54:35 p.m. on August 10, 2005
RICK L |
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The race is immaterial, but they are white.
Glad to see that the error was corrected with the headline.
Although Mr. Kind is dancing around the issue a bit, he does admit it was an error and it was corrected - good job.
4:58:18 p.m. on August 10, 2005
BOB CARPENTER |
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"Something that is perfectly legal and acceptable has happened..."
No, friend, it's not acceptable. Maybe in your world it is, but you can't call yourself a Christian and say this is acceptable. You're going to have to give up one or the other.
5:00:27 p.m. on August 10, 2005
RICK L |
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I was just wondering, go lee, you dont have to be a schmuck about it. Rick L.. Well, if he slept with the student he is wrong, but their is nothing you can do now. Maybe this will get the picture and start watching thier kids more, and being more influential in their lives.
5:04:00 p.m. on August 10, 2005
JAHMAL KELLI |
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I was just wondering, go lee, you dont have to be a schmuck about it. Rick L.. Well, if he slept with the student he is wrong, but their is nothing we can do now. I hope this get's parents attention and start watching thier kids more, and being more influential in their lives.
5:05:43 p.m. on August 10, 2005
JAHMAL KELLI |
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Rick L...you are right . #1 This is not "perfectly legal" ( as this began when the girl was 17...I am family, I know)..and #2 this is not "acceptable"...not in the Christian world, or any other world. Damien is sick. Interesting how he has to lie his way out of this...especially if this is "perfectly legal and acceptable". I think I am going to vomit.
5:36:48 p.m. on August 10, 2005
SHANNON HAMMOND |
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This is between the parties involved and nobody else's bussiness. Besides, I don't believe people are really meant to be monogomous. Just look at the divorce rate. And for all you bible thumpers out there who want to push you moral beliefs on others, why don't you mind your own bussiness. I'll bet nobody ever knocked on your door and asked you to be an athiest.
5:37:24 p.m. on August 10, 2005
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Very enlightened of you Roy, however, Damien comes from a devout Christian family, and claims to be a Christian. Bible thumpers are not trying to cram anything down his throat, just trying to remind him of who and what he claims to be. A Christian first, also a husband and father. Second, there is more than just the 2 involved. There is his WIFE, YOUNG DAUGHTER AND BABY SON outside of the 2 ignorant self involved trash involved. Not to mention Damien and Laura's families who don't care to watch their loved ones lives ripped to shreds, especially over a piece of tail. I am also sick of hearing all the [removed] about divorce rate and monogamy.Our culture okays this kind of bad behavior because it makes them feel better about themselves, makes them feel like less of a louse, and soothes their consciences. It is a form of laziness that has infected our society. Just because "everyone is doing it" doesn't make it right. You need to respect your partner enough to step back for a bit or end things, not humiliate them by screwing around on them, especially when you have children to consider. Damien chose to promise his life to Laura, not at gunpoint either.He chose to promise forever. HE CHOSE.I am sick of the attitude that lives and relationships are disposable when they become inconvenient or we just don't feel like trying anymore. Above and beyond that, he took advantage of his position as an educator, to pursue a relationship that was not even LEGAL, let alone moral, I hate to tack on "moral" since morality seems to offend your enlightened self so much.
So Roy, no one is knocking on your door with a Bible to thump or for that matter, asking you to mind Damien's business. His friends and family are angry and heartbroken that this catastrophe has happenend and are hoping to get his attention, out of his pants, and help him realize what he is throwing away.
6:26:48 p.m. on August 10, 2005
A C |
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Ugh. I'd heard rumors of this last month. I'd been hoping the rumor mill was wrong. Sad to see that it was correct, and [removed].
Laura, you don't know me, but you have my deepest sympathies for what this jerk has put you and your children through. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
*sickened*
6:46:12 p.m. on August 10, 2005
BEVERLY ERICKSON |
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To the guy who wants to see the Website/ pictures of the two. I found them on my own.
Just Google Damien Tullier's name, and you'll find the site with the pictures.
And yes, there are pictures of the two in a hotel room---and I REALLY hope that girl was 18 when those pictures were taken........nothing graphic, but someone could submit it to Maxim Magazine for publication if they wanted.
The girl's gorgeous, but that's no excuse for what this creep did.
Ever hear that saying "A man who marries his mistress creates a vacancy in his life"
She'll soon realize he's too old for her, and ditch him for a college guy next year.
7:07:20 p.m. on August 10, 2005
BRANDON TEMPLE |
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Correction: To find the site in question, Google "Damien Tullier IRCC" and you'll go straight to it.
7:12:35 p.m. on August 10, 2005
BRANDON TEMPLE |
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Laura I am sorry for what you are going through. I also lost my husband to a younger woman and was left alone with a beautiful daughter and 5 months pregnant. He left to start and new family and didnt look back to even look at his children one last time. I also fet heartbroken and ashamed for what he had did to me and my kids. I useto think it was my fault at first. But as long as you have family who love you and support you. You will deffently get through it. Just dont follow back down the same path that lead you to such sadness. Just dont turn back like he did to you and the kids. My deepest sympathies. I am not relgious but I will hope the better for you and the kids.
7:12:59 p.m. on August 10, 2005
CHRISTINA HOWARD |
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7:34:04 p.m. on August 10, 2005
MARTY SANDERS |
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To: Freetime & Laura T.
First of all: Laura, I saw your website with the CD, and you aren't an old hag by no means. In fact, I can't figure your ex out. He had a woman that loved him, and we all know (except him) that you are extremely lucky if you do meet that one (right Freetime?). Laura, you really, really are a beautiful woman.
Freetime: I don't condone what D did. All I am saying is that now that it appears to be over, as far as his choice has been made, why wish them bad luck? That's just what this world needs, more hate! Yeah! Nope, those two will have to live forever with their decision, and with as much compassion as anyone can muster, why not leave them alone? They think they are in love. I'm sure you have had trouble finding a decent man too, freetime. There are a lot of scumbags out there. That's pobably what [removed] will find out when she decides D is getting too old and worn out, and jaded. She'll try to find some other finance. I mean fiance. Freetime, I am sure you would be a catch for a decent guy. If you keep looking, you'll find him, and I wish you the best.
There are SOME good guys out there. There are SOME good gals there too...but not many of either, if you want quality. Good luck.
Laura again: Hang in there....it is not anything you did. You are fantastic and have great support. Time to go find a real man.
cj....correcting his last post to include the decent people too. But the single women who played around all their life ARE jaded, and alcoho's, or druggies, etc. [removed] is old enough to know what she was doing, and sees this as her big opportunity. Give them a break (since they weren't gonna listen to anyone anyway), and who knows? She might end up pregnant and D can pay even MORE child support. My guess is that'll be his next move to "lock her in". Good luck [removed]. Could'a done a lot better!
cj
7:37:50 p.m. on August 10, 2005
CHRISTOPHER JONES |
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Damien does not work at the CALC anymore. So if it is true or not, it is no longer the business of the CALC, nor their responsibility. However, there are still kids, parents, teachers, and administrators there who are trying to go on with their own lives and move past this. This is a sad, sad issue, if not just for the fact that a family has been broken, but as it was said before, it is a FAMILY and a private issue...not something that needs to be cast into the public where it can distract these kids and hurt their school. My previous post was not so much trying to suggest that the accusations are untrue, but only that regardless of the outcome, the name of the CALC has now been soiled, truth or not. It won't matter what is proven (if it ever is) because the CALC will still suffer the ill effects. These kids need to be focusing on their education, their futures, and one day, their own families and children. Not the adult and private matters of affairs and betrayal. This report only put unfair and undue stress on the remaining CALC staff responsable for directing these kids, and has made their lives miserable.
7:39:01 p.m. on August 10, 2005
JESSICA WASSUNG |
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One more lesson for [removed]:
When the love of your life gets to the ripe old age of 19, he is starting to go downhill from a physiological, and mainly from the sexual side of things.
So, Viagra, will be his drug of choice from about 45 on.
You, on the other hand, will be hitting your peak right when he craps out. He'll be getting tired more easily, sleepy at 42 or 43, and you'll still be wanting to go out, and have lots of fun. You'll be 32, or 33, (the same age Jesus was when HE was crucified for our sins), and a hot little tomato at that age. Unless you have 4 or 5 kids by him during those years, or get wise.
Now, talent notwithstanding, since people on the blog site say your voice isn't all that good, I would say your chances of a huge commercial success aren't too great. That is especially true if you aren't one of the top 2 or 3 American Idols. The competition there is rather intense.
Other than that, and the fact that he knows how to play you, and with you, I'd say to him, sayonara. What if he got you pregnant, then went to prison, or decided he STILL wasn't ready to commit to anyone, then where would THAT leave you?
I'd say with a lot of baggage, bitter, emotionally bankrupt, jaded, hurt, and with a kid or two, and no honey to call honey.
But, who am I to judge? I've just got MORE experience than the both of you. And I am 47. Why do you think I'm still married to my bride? She is way more beautiful than an 18 year old nymph-ette.
Good Luck to you too!
cj...aka sonicduck
8:47:59 p.m. on August 10, 2005
CHRISTOPHER JONES |
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These two people (the student & Mr. Tullier ) were stupid enough to post pictures online.
I mean come on.
This man was an educator (or in a position of authority), married (yup you are a man of honor), religious (what religion again) and a father (way to go setting an example to your children).
Maybe you should have NEVER posted the pictures of you and your teenage lover online BECAUSE I saw it online weeks ago.
I highly surprised that this is the first time the Stuart News is reporting on it.
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I don't know for sure if these pictures are of the two individuals but if they are then they are plastered all over the internet.
9:23:00 p.m. on August 10, 2005
KARLA R |
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Hello there. I never wanted to take part in this discussion, but I feel like I have to. I haven’t known Damien for very long, but I’ve known the student for a very, very long time. All I really have to elaborate on is NONE OF YOU (well, most of you) know her for who she is. She’s got a good head on her shoulders regardless of the decisions she’s made. You know it really sucks because everybody makes horrible decisions, EVERYBODY…and these two people have the luck of having their falters publicly known. To give all of you a little insight, she is very mature for her age. And regardless of what anyone thinks, the law says she’s an adult and is NOT a child, and will NOT be judged like one. Many many MANY couples today are very apart in age…this is besides the fact, but for an example, her mom and deceased dad were 20 years apart. 20 YEARS! That means when he was almost finished with college, she was poppin out of her mommy’s belly! Many people could look at that and be grossed out or think it’s wrong or whatever. But the people who knew them for who they were TOGETHER could probably see they were truly in love which is why they accepted it. Think about it… Tullier gave up EVERYTHING for her. It wasn’t some “wam-bam-thank you ma’am” thing…it was thought out, planned, and was (God willing) going to happen no matter what! Yes, I said GOD WILLING. OBVIOUSLY, no matter if the intentions were wrong or if it was mistake, yada yada, he loves her. Otherwise, like the article says, they wouldn’t be together. Think about all the [removed] they must be going through, that they DID put on themselves…and they STILL want to be with each other. I met Damien a while ago…and I had the opportunity to see them together…and even for that short amount of time…I could tell there was no joke about what was going on. I think all can agree that when they see love…they just know it’s love. Don’t know why or how…but they can just see it. Because I am a friend of hers, I listened to her story. Believe me when I tell you that neither of the two think that what they’re doing is OK. But NO ONE knows what they’re going through except them. And they don’t’ know what we’re all going through either. I’m not here to say I’m supportive of their relationship. But I am here to say that it really is none of our business to be posting stuff like this publicly. If you really wanna know, I’m sure if you went to them, they would tell you their story. To some of us posting, this doesn’t affect our lives…so why are we trying to make it worse for them? Do they deserve it? Maybe…but is it our place?....no, absolutely not. I am very sorry for the families that are going through these difficult times…I pray though, that you do find in your hearts some strength to forgive them for their wrong-doing. Because believe me, at this point, it’s all you can do.
9:25:19 p.m. on August 10, 2005
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I am my uncles other neice and he makes me sick too my stomach even to think about him!i feel very sad for my aunt laura. she is a wonderful person.
10:19:36 p.m. on August 10, 2005
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ERS,
Wrong doing is doing it once, deciding they want each other and ending what already was. Not carrying on a "relationship" that was illegal, when it started behind Damien's wife's back. If she is so mature, she would have had the decency to do the right thing and let Damien remove himself from the situation. Caring for Damien and Laura's children in the Tulllier's home and being friendly with Laura while privately pursuing her HUSBAND is sick, immature and the ultimate FU! It is amazing these days how very much lust and the heady passion of pursuit can resemble love. The age difference is not even an issue. He is slime for being a deceitful, heartless cheat. She is slime for being a deceitful, heartless homewrecker. True, there could have been problems in the Tullier's marriage, if so, they may have even been able to work them out, but never, never, never with an 18 year old in pursuit of a sad excuse for a grown man. She is not mature or sensible. She is crafty with a good vocabulary. Maturity waits, teenage arrogance proceeds. For the record, good luck [removed].I know Damien. I have observed his behavior up close for years. [removed] Boobs and sex will only carry you so far. Enjoy your ride. And for the love of God I hope you never experince the horror and anguish or betrayal and loss that you have helped inflict on Laura and the children. It is a fun, sexy and exciting game for someone who has had very little life experince. You have never been a wife and observed the daily grind and routine once the sparkle of the honeymoon begins to fade. You have never carried a child, with all its joys and pains, brought it into the world in blood and fear and pain and looked into its amazing face, a little me and a little like him. Felt the amazing rush of love and pride. To have the man who promised you forever look into your face and laugh and walk away from the life you struggled to create and the miracles that you created together. You have no idea the despair and pain everytime the innocent faces look to you and keep asking for the daddy, that you know is not coming back to them. No morning kisses and night time stories and cuddles. No hand to reach for in the night when you feel alone. So think about that the next time you are giggling into your frozen drink and enjoying someone elses husband.
10:22:47 p.m. on August 10, 2005
A C |
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I would never think that i would know or be related to a person like damien.and this all started when she was SEVENTEEN!!not late this june or july.i may not know that much about what is going on right now but i do no that what he did was very wrong!
10:24:06 p.m. on August 10, 2005
A COLLINS |
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ERS,
First of all, I'm a man and am Damien's exact same age, and I've already been trusted to be an authority figure over some 17-18 year old and very attractive girls.
(1) I never even considered pursuing them romantically because I was trusted not to abuse my position (and I'm not even married)
(2)Ten years ago, a 17 or 18 year old girlfriend would have been something I'd welcome with open arms, but now I wouldn't want to because I see girls that age as children, as I should.
Seeing this couple's pics online is just wrong. He looks like an adult, and while she may have a very adult and feminine physique, her face still looks like a little girl's.
I've seen this girl in person, and, as I said earlier, she's just about one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen, and she'll continue turning heads WHEN SHE BECOMES A WOMAN! But she has to grow up first.
(3) Even though I don't have kids, I'd [removed] a brick if I knew this my daughter being taken advantage of by people I trusted.
10:44:44 p.m. on August 10, 2005
BRANDON TEMPLE |
08.10.05 - 10:49 pm | #
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Have the naysayers ever committed a sin?
Let them who are without sin cast the first stone.
I wonder who said that? What was His point?
Christians? Nah, not this bunch of hypocrites here....why would I think that?
sonicduck....saying love is the answer....not lust (and that includes blood lust)
10:45:05 p.m. on August 10, 2005
CHRISTOPHER JONES |
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Calling Christians hypocrites is so old and quite boring. Yawn! Can anyone find some new material please??! It seems every time a nerve gets touched that little ditty just flies about!
I have dealt with plenty of hypocrites...all colors, creeds and religions. Hypocrisy is not limited to the religious! Right time and right situation, you would be surprised who it rips out of!
10:52:43 p.m. on August 10, 2005
A C |
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Brandon Temple, thanks for your level headed observations thus far. Very straight forward, educated, and easy to understand. Refreshing! Thanks for being one of the few "good ones" as well.
10:55:38 p.m. on August 10, 2005
A C |
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A C
Maybe you didn't really understand what I was saying. No disrespect to you. But I was gauging my post to those of us posting that have nothing to do with the situation. Whether we were his students, friends, or someone who saw the girl in person...we are not the people that are going to be in his life forever. I was saying this is a FAMILY ISSUE. And I just feel it should be delt with as such...not online. Really, if you're going to trash talk someone, then you should at least know what you're talking about. As far as it seems, hardly any one here has gone directly to the source...which...would be the logical place to go for explanation, would it not?
11:51:10 p.m. on August 10, 2005
E R S |
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It's possible to condemn their actions without judging. Only God gets to judge, but if we as individuals and as a society can't condemn this sort of behavior, we might as well throw in the towel.
If the guy (and gal) would just come out and apologize, things would be different. They haven't done that yet. Eventually he'll get sick of her and we will probably see repentance.
8:01:17 a.m. on August 11, 2005
RICK L |
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god this, god that, blah blah blah. Seems to me all your belief in god does is make you arrogant and make you think you are better than anyone else because you can jump on the band wagon point fingers. Didn't someone at one point in history supposedly say something about that. Glass houses....and stones? As for christians tired of being called hypocrites, if your tired of it stop being hypocrites. That's not to say all christians are hypocrites, many are not. But many are, just look at some of our elected officials touting their faith. Unless you are directly involved, leave these poeple alone.
12:02:10 p.m. on August 11, 2005
RYAN STEWART |
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Laura,
I commend you for having the strength and faith to go through all of this. I'm personally not involved, my cousin is a student at CALC and I've talked to Erika a couple of times about all of this.
for those of you who are pulling the "glass house" and "what, do Christians not sin" comments - that is completely beside the point. the man betrayed his wife with a CHILD. not only a child, a child he was in an authoritative position of! I do not know Damien Tullier. I do not know [removed]. but I do know right from wrong. if these two would come out and say yes, we fell in love, I cheated on my wife and I deeply apologize - things would be a little different. but it doesn't change the fact that he made a huge mistake that affected a LOT of people.
3:20:47 p.m. on August 11, 2005
KATIE WAY |
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what a perv! tullier claimed to be a christian how can this be when you leave you 2 kids and wife for some 17 yr old girl that is just disgusting. i cant believe he would do this to a wonderful wife and how could anyone walk out on their kids. what a dirt ball
12:20:11 p.m. on August 12, 2005
JORDAN PIERCE |
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Jessica Wasung...your comments made me laugh...you know that these allegations are true, and I do think the CALC has some responsibility here...pricipals need to make sure that the faculty is not too familar with their students...Damien did things out in the open that were obviously unprofessional and where there is smoke there is fire. Stay out of it or I'll post the truth about you!
9:33:13 p.m. on August 12, 2005
STEPHANIE DAMON |
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i do like what ers said about forgiveness being the only way out....
11:01:45 p.m. on August 12, 2005
STEPHANIE DAMON |
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Damien is scum and so is [removed]. They'll get theirs in the end.
Since everyone is throwing out old sayings, here's a good'un: "You reap what you sow"
3:18:17 p.m. on August 16, 2005
B GEE |
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hahaha
8:43:53 a.m. on August 17, 2005
REBECCA HILLIER |
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AC,
Your post brought tears to my eyes because it was so true....none of you really know the hurt and pain of that kind of betrayl unless you've experienced it. However, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head...To have shared such intimacy with someone as to bring children into the world with them by your side and then have them throw it all away...makes you wonder...hmmmm. they will know we are Christians by our love....show me the love...you can't because it's not in you...you don't know how...true love only comes from HIM which is how I can sit here and tell you that I will be fine. I have found love...real love and it only comes from my real HUSBAND...that is Jesus! I know that sounds weard to those of you who don't understand what a personal relationship with God is all about but it is so true!!! He is my strength! I don't need Damien's or any other man's love to be o.k. all I need is HIM. Thank you all for your encouraging messages to my family and I. Let me leave you all with one....If you seek HIM with all your heart you will find HIM. You may not understand what I'm talking about right now, but if you want TRUE LOVE, ask Jesus for it...ASK(for HIS love)and it will be given unto you...SEEK(HIS love)and you will find it....Much Love to All!
PS. AC, I'd really like to know where you know Damien and I from, because it sounds like you know us and the situation well.
10:53:34 p.m. on August 18, 2005
LAURA TULLIER |
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Hi Laura,
It pleases me that you know real love and know where to seek your comfort and strength. You have always been one of the sweetest and nicest girls (whoops, woman now) I have ever known. I think that is why I reacted so strongly to the news. No one deserves to be in this kind of situation, but it is just vile when you know the person is such a good person. Your in-laws know who I am, they visited with me the weekend before last. My parents are there with them now. If you want to contact me, ask them, they will give you the information. I wish you all the best, and pray that God leads you down a path of beauty and blessing, and that if it is His will, one day you will be sent one who will cherish you the way you deserve to be cherished.
9:16:04 p.m. on August 22, 2005
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