At the risk of having two web pages claiming to be for the same entity (ours and theirs) I wonder why they called it the "Episcopal" Diocese of San Joaquin. It makes it look like it is something different than the organization of whose assets Mr Shofield now has adverse possession. Better to just call it the Diocese of San Joaquin.
I wondered the same thing, Fresno Mark.
My question: I'm from ECR, will i be able to attend as an observer--meaning will there be room forthose who are non resident in the diocese? It would be too cool to be there and show support.
It it possible to attend as an observer, but you must "sign up" to let them know you are coming. I have the form (it's a Word .doc) if anybody is interested. Fr. Jake can give you my email address.
The web site really does look nice, and it's very easy to find information. Very clean and calm, too.
Just checked, our web site banner reads "The Episcopal Diocese of Virginia." Same with my cradle diocese...Washington, DC.
Fresno Mark,
To possible answer that question, I remember reading a long time ago during the early days of the Internet, a couple of guys from I think the Bay Area registered "anglican.org" so that it would be the official domain for the Episcopal Church. By proceeding this with the diocese name, ie. "olympia.anglican.org" for example, a user gets the official home page for that diocese. This was done, in part so that potential schismatics didn't usurp "Anglican.org" for their own use. Now that the "Schofield based" diocese has control over that domain name "sanjoaquin.anglican.org", it makes sense to me to have the "non-Schofield based" diocese make sure of the "Episcopal" label is prominent until such time as "the Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin" gets the original domain name back. That may not ever happen, however.
This is going to be great! James 1, come visit. There should be hotel/etc info with the registration stuff.
Also, everyone is reminded that there are two pre-convetion deanery meetings one of which is tonight at Christ The King on Estelle Ave in Riverbank. Call 209-869-1075 for information. Please come!
Thanks, Fresno Mark. I tired the resgistration page on the web site but it was a "can't be found" page.
please e-mail me the regestration from polysloguy at the yawhough place.
Cheers!
James,
I'm not sure I followed your email address.
Sorry,Mark it was an attempt to thwart spammers.
polysloguy@yahoo.com
James,
Go to Remain epsicopal. I know it is there.
The registration form for Convention can be found here.
Prayers ascending from Colorado for the Diocese of San Joaquin from a former Californian. I hope all goes well with the convention and that all of you can now get on with being the hands and feet of Christ in the world.
@James 1: I couldn't help but notice the email address. I graduated from Cal Poly SLO back in 1993. Yes, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, or so it seems to me!
Prayerfully,
At Home in TEC
I note with approval that the Steering Committee has had the forethought to appoint a Credentials Committee.
I clicked on 'Bishop's Pages' and was met with:
Sorry there were no matches for your search
I liked that.
The web site's banner photo of the undulating green hills is beautiful. When I'm away from home, and I think of California, it's just this sort of hill I imagine.
Spring in the Valley - I just love that this special convention is beginning in Easter Week! For all participating in the convention, for all meeting the PB for the first time, for all supporting observers, blessings on you all.
At Home in TEC
Such a small world this is. Were you active at St. stephen's at all or with the Canterbury club on campus?
Feel free to email me.
slidejockey,
It was in fact Brian Reid, Ph.D., an editor of Anglicans Online, who was key in the creation of anglican.org, and, for that matter, of about one in three other things having to do with the web (the first firewall, the first search engine, Adobe, etc.): < http://justus.anglican.org/reid.html > .
The domain anglican.org does not, however, belong to TEC, but to the Society of Archbishop Justus < http://justus.anglican.org/ >. In fact, I can remember when TEC was first developing a web presence, and the person in charge of it turned out to have no idea of the existence of anglican.org. Someone brought it to his/her attention, and the next question from 815 was who in the world this uppity Reid person was. Jaws dropped across the early version of cyberspace.
I applaud this swift, decisive action by the faithful in DSJ and the Presiding Bishop's office.
I have a qualm or two about the PB's being able to name the Provisional Bishop on an up or down vote. But he's available and willing (for which we should be glad), he's only temporary and it does seem important to get an episcopal presence back ASAP. Besides the administrative stuff, there are no doubt people waiting to be confirmed or received, and others wanting to be considered for postulancy or ordination.
If I were a voter I'd want to get some indication of a proposed timeline for conducting a formal search for a permanent, elected bishop before consenting to the provisional one.
If there's one thing we've learned (have you seen the candidates for suffragan of Dallas???), it's that once in office, bishops can stack the deck in their favor. The laity must remain vigilant and involved.
Here we go..
I am now leaving to go to my home Parish, Christ The King in Riverbank, to help prepare for the evening Deanery meeting with Bsp Lamb et al. There were days I thought this would never come,Glory Be to God. If you are coming, I will be at the registration table, a name tag on that has"Fr Jake" noted in the lower corner, right above my heart. God Bless you and and thank you again for all your prayers and support, Samasntha PS.. I really can spell my name.. no "s" in there, but my delete button won't work!!
4May-- just goes to show that one is never too old to learn! thanks for the great information. I'm sure that it will come in handy at the next cocktail party. :)
As it was already said, it is very important that, now that the Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquín is being reorganized, that they contact the Society of the Archbishop Justus and request the sanjoaquin.anglican.org to redirect to their new website. It's a simple and straightforward action and I'm sure that the society team is already aware and waiting for a sign to do it.
Also, off-topic... Has anyone seen Doug (Counterlight) around here? I sent him an e-mail re: his paintings on the passion of the Christ but got no response.
Bye!
Small, but important thing, to correct on the web site: it is election of General Convention DEPUTIES. Being a deputy is quite a different thing from being a delegate and people mix this up all the time. So, to whoever manages the website, can you change that word? (After all, the web does have this correctly: House of Deputies President....)
Says one who will be going to her fifth GC in 2009 qua deputy.
Luiz,
I have heard that reacquiring our website URL is on the list of early projects to tackle.
Dear Luiz,
Here I am! Our wires must have crossed. I did send you a reply and it is yes. If you need assistance on the project, please let me know.
I just sent you another reply on my Earthlink account. I hope that works better.
Delighted to hear from you!
The Society of Archbishop Justus (the folks who give us Anglicans Online) are kind of the NPR of the Anglican world. They attempt to be fair and present all sides, but it's pretty clear where their sympathies lie.
I expect that sanjoaquin.anglican.org will redirect to this site very soon. :)
Good work San Joaquin folks!
There still seems to be a bit of confusion, but the happy, bustling growing confusion of Godde's work being done.
Such news is a great blessing to me now, and, I trust, to the whole church: the Body of Christ. Thanks be to Godde.
Rockhopper | 03.13.08 - 10:54 pm |
Sure hope so, because what I get when I go there right now is really annoying. (G)
Speaking of good work. You...go people!
Blessings,
I looked at the Archbishop Justus site. They seem to emphasize being in communion with Canterbury. Once the anglican communion website shows the see of San Joaquin as vacant, and the ABC pulls Mr. Schofield's invite to Lambeth (as will surely happen), it should be easy convincing them which of us is "anglican".
Luiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzz! I'm so glad to hear from you!!!!!! I'm missed you. You've been in my prayers. I'm glad you're well.
Just got back from the pre-convention deanery meeting. Wowsers! It is goingto be a great convention. +Lamb was terrific. Mark Hall was great. Mike Glass is really special. And Beryl, it was nice to meet you.
OK, which ones of ya'll am I gonna meet in Fresno tomorrow?
Dr. Val,
Can't be me, I am too far away but how about the 28th in Lodi at the healing service?
Great! That's my home parish (had to work tonight, hence the road trip to Fresno tomorrow...).
OT guys, please bear with me -
Leslie, I'm hoping you didn't have to make that soup tonight - I'm having a little email problem of my own making, though t haven't seen if mail is bouncing back when sent from the "soup" address.
Scott, you must have put out some kind of prayer force last night. The immediate danger was minimal, but the forces of evil were setting things up. We had a long chat this evening, meeting for breakfast tomorrow.
And my thanks to all of you that sent a quick one up, no doubt, when your read my post.
:-) to all here
Hi Dr. Val,
I was wondering if you could read for me this Sunday at St. Anne. I wasn't going to be there in order to support our St. Francis Sunday afternoon Eucharist in Turlock.
Jake,
I was at Christ the King tonight, and Sapd had your name in a heart on her name tag in appreciation for all your support of us at the DoSJ
Fred,
How come I didn't get to meet you? Why didn't you introduce yourself?
It was a great meeting. Jerry Lamb is very likeable, very approachable, humorous, a good listener, so many attributes currently needed. There were lots of pointed questions and concerns and everyone was heard. I loved it.
Beryl,
I was standing next to you when you spoke with +Lamb.
I'll be at Holy Family tomorrow night. See y'all there.
Fresno Mark, I did registration tonight at Christ the King for the Convention and healing service, collected the forms so I could get them in right away, I would suggest the same for down in Fresno tomorrow night. I think we got about 57 registrations for convention and about 45 for healing service.
Also on the form listing the hotels in Lodi/Stockton, the first one Best Western at I-5 has a block of rooms set aside at a discounted rate for the "Episcopal Convention". Rooms are limited and will go unblocked as of the 19th. If you could mention that, it might be helpful.
Great evening and wonderful seeing all of you. Bishop Lamb's name suits him well, very genteel indiviual. I was impressed.
I'll be at Holy Family tomorrow night. See y'all there.
Hey Beryl:
I'd be happy to read on Sunday.
Beryl,
You seemed a little pre-occupied but I did speak briefly with John.
Fred Schwartz | 03.14.08 - 1:57 am |
...I'm sitting here giggling at you and Beryl...how lovely is this attempt to connect. Beryl! Look up! (G)
:),
...Sapd had your name in a heart on her name tag in appreciation for all your support of us at the DoSJ...
Thanks for that, sapd. I'm pleased to have been of some help to you all during this difficult time.
Since the winners of the "Guess the Deposition Date" contest have failed to collect their prizes, maybe I should send you folks the "Jake's Santos" t-shirts, eh?
Jake | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 2:07 am |
I'll take one for sure. And I'll wear it, too. Address to follow.
Blessings,
Jake,
Send me one and I will wear it at convention.
Fred Schwartz | 03.14.08 - 2:12 am |
LOL. Me, too. Not the 28th, but for sure the 29th. Remember to send him your US postal service address.
:),
Many, of the things I have previously read (on many, many other threads here at Jakes... and Thank God for you, Jake, in relation to what is needed in the SJD) seem to be on a loooooong to do list by TEC in SJD, and they are being checked off at good speed.
Moore/Cox/Schori are all listening! TBTG.
They ARE acting! TBTG.
And, I suspect, they ARE reading here:) TBTG.
The new-old website: clean, positive... great! I am so pleased:)
I am so happy for ya'll.
And OT.
I would like to share something with you if I may.
At EFM last night (I'm in year three and last night was chapter 23, Eve of the Reformation) there was a preparing your seminar question that just absolutely BEGGED me to address it: "The Reformation presents a crisis in authority. How has this phenomenon taken place during other eras? What form does it take today?"
I addressed only the "today" part weaving some important points about that period into the what is going on today in TEC...
First, I announced the Shofield/Cox situation and determination by the HOB and how that relates (overview). Then I launched into folks in the DSJ needing prayer books etc. because they don't have any such thing anymore. You won't believe what came next...
People were looking at me like I had two heads... what, no prayer books? No vestments? No hymnals? No chalice? WHAT???????? and my response: Nope. And No churches, either, in most cases. They were literally speechless.
What this points to is that people really do NOT understand what has happened in DSJ. These EFM folks are intelligent people, ACTIVE people, one on the vestry, another (one of the mentors) a wife of another vestry member. Four of us are in the choir (read... we talk...). One is a Steven's Minister. One is on the Altar Guild. Yet somehow, no one knew. No one understood. Now, they are appalled at what they are hearing.
The second part (with me on the verge of literally crying, having to stop for moments... I still cannot stop that...) was the discussion on Lambeth and Robinson.
I have to tell you that the EFM people around that table--with the exception of one--were ashamed. You could see it in their demeanor, and the sadness in their eyes.
At our mid-meeting break, one woman who I really like but did not know well prior to this year of EFM, made a few very nice comments to me while we were chatting ending with the statement that her daughter is a lesbian and it hurts her deeply to know that that Anglican Communion is acting the way they are. She literally said to me, "This is not right and this is not God's work."
I guess my point is this: I live in Orange County, CA. Doesn't get more conservative than that. And while our diocese is viewed as liberal, our parish leans to the conservative side.
NONETHELESS, we are on our SECOND wonderful woman rector, and this second one, Jeannie, is just such a gift though I really like our first woman rector very much.
Importantly, I believe that while we may be conservative, politically (though I am not, personally), our parish has managed to weave together some understanding, quietly, of acceptance doctrine under God. That is not to say that there are not opponents of WO and glbt full inclusion in church orders. There are. Those people I do know.
But the quiet acceptance of the lovers of Christ and all that are in that fold, I believe, is far, far greater. I hold great hope even in the face of despair.
I wanted to share this with you, if for no other reason, than to say that we CAN talk about this and actually, we must.
This group, last night, is 12 people. 12 people that every week, for four years, talks, thinks and prays together. Those acts, and the love, acceptance, forgiveness and understanding that accompanies them, create strong bonds.
Isn't that what we are really all about? Isn't that the communion we are all so much in need of and so desire?
"...you must have put out some kind of prayer force last night..."
Lynn | 03.14.08 - 1:12 am | #
Always and with constancy.
Blessings,
cany,
Just to let you know, we were members of Messiah in Santa Ana for several years. Love Brad and Co. There is an inner city Episcopal church that lives up (and beyond) to its billing.
"...I launched into folks in the DSJ needing prayer books etc. because they don't have any such thing anymore..."
Well, they have a few now.
"Orange County, CA."
My guess is that there will be a whole bunch of $s for the MDGs coming from that county.
"12 people"
Seems to me that has always been enough people.
"on the verge of literally crying"
How about if you just cry. I find it to be cathartic.
Huge blessings on you and yours,
Over and out. See you all tomorrow.
Yes, Fred, Messiah is great. Have attended there several times for choral events (not in participation but I just love that church and they have done some really great music).
They are pretty far from me, but I am well aware of their various groups.
Mmmmm have to wonder if we have not run into one another... you get around, doncha? :):)
and scott... well I have cried. yes it is cathartic. problem is, this has just so touched me that I cannot stop crying.
I have wondered if there isn't something going on with the 7 stages of grief...
Yep,
Holy Spirit/All Saints Woodbridge,VA
Trinity/St. Bedes menlo Park, CA
St. Matthias Whittier, CA (3 or 4 times)
Messiah Santa Ana, CA
Trinity Parish Orange, CA
St. Matthias Oakdale,CA
Christ The King Riverbank, CA
and a lot of visiting including Pohick, VA
Ah... St. Matthias, Whittier. I love that church. I used to go alone, often, when I was not Episcopalian (let alone Christian) and fighting between being a believer or not...
I sang for several weddings there, as well. Lovely (visually) and has such a great spiritual feel.
St. Matthias Whittier is my favorite place to attend Christmas Eve midnight mass. I have yet to find a better place. I so love it there.
Ah, lost-sheep; you've not experienced Christmas Eve until you've participated in Fr. Jake's midnight Mass. Ah, the memories! In my long career in the Church, I've only seen one person who celebrates the divine liturgy better than Fr. Jake.
That was the first time I attended there, lost-sheep, Christmas Eve... lo many, many, many years ago!
We were driving by on Christmas Eve (it was raining) coming home from my mom's house.
I told my then BF... hey... stop! (He was no doubt rolling his eyes back in his noggin... lol). I insisted we go in for Midnight Mass. Of course I stepped out into the rain and discovered I had left my shoes at my mom's (DOH) and so I went to ask the Priest if I could come in barefoot. He laughed and said something like Christ didn't wear much in the way of shoes I really don't think he'd mind. I promised to sit in the back:)
It was lovely. In fact, the memory of that night has remained one of my favorites in life. And it sure wasn't the Christmas Eve turkey.
Great looking site, tastefully done, and the colors are soothing, perhaps what is needed these days.
I had an idea last night, a rarety these days. (I think there is a pun there somewhre)
The resources being somewhat limited in DSJ, perhaps the DIOCESE website could have a separate page for each of the parishes/missions in the diocese. I think there are practical and psychological benefits in doing it this way. There may be pitfalls as well that I am not aware of. Anyhow, somthing for you people in DSJ to mull over.
Best wishes
Now, about T shirts...
It was both a suprise and a bit embarassing to discover that I had been 'runner up' in the contest. On the other hand I did vote early and often (the rules were kinda loose). And yes, I did look up the dates of the HOB meeting, but I thought that was fair and under the category of 'research' (the internet is a wonderful thing). And then I thought 'I can't really expect to have a priest go out and buy T shirts'. It was just a contest after all, and my voting strategy might be considered somewhat unethical in all but the highest levels of government and politics. But if Jake insists on buying T shirts I shall wear it proudly. And if someone stops me on the street and asks 'How did you come by that T shirt?', I will give me great delight to relate the story in detail.
My other motto is: 'It pays to advertise'.
paper? plastic? Cotton!
cheers
frank,
Your idea on the sharing of the website creation is indeed what will happen. Not quite in the fashion you describe but the website creator has been signed on for one and all.
I was just looking through the nominations hand out, for nominees for different positions within the EDioSJ, Wow, what a great slate! I am so impressed, kudos to the Nominations Committee, excellent work and excellent indiviuals. I can't remember a time where we had so many quality indiviuals willing to serve.Thank you so much to each who have agreed to be part of this process. Can we say hopeful?? You bet.
In the discussion about getting Justus to change their website directions, someone spoke with great confidence about Schofield losing his invitation to lambeth. Does anyone know something I don't? Given the lack of motion by canterbury in the past and the fact that, so far, they don't seem to have noticed the house of bishop's actions it seems optimistic to me.
From what I have seen from the ABC I think it likely that Schofield will still be invited as a bishop from the south without a diocese. *sigh*
So glad to hear the upswing of emotion coming from all of you on the left coast. It is uplifting for all of us to see prayers answered. Here in MI we are cracking 50 for the first time this year, which doesn't hurt. Signs of new life all around us.....
Great good news from San Joaquin way. It's wonderful to see full support from the PB and the national church. May God be with you.
Dr. Val | 03.14.08 - 12:43 am |
I'll be there!
Re. the website, looks nice, but I find issues. here's one.
when I click to an interior page http://www.diosanjoaquin.org/dfc/newsdetail_2/9, the page renders differently in different browsers under the MacOS.
In the browser Camino, there is text on the right sidebar beginning "episcopal Life Online" . this text is impossibly small to read.
Curiously, this sidebar text is missing entirely when I open the same page in Firefox or in Safari.
Inconsistent rendering suggests there is some non-standard coding going on. Not everyone uses a PC with Internet Exploder on it. It's kinda the point to welcome everyone, whether they are on a fast broadband or a dialup, PC or Mac.
(data point: my website, which is work (science)-related, gets between 25 and 35% of its hits from Macs, which are extremely well represented in my type of research. Just sayin'.)
N.B. The healing service on the 28th is in Stockton not Lodi.
-frank | 03.14.08 - 7:47 am |
I have developed and managed a project just as you have described, not for church but for our ROTARY District. Each of the 55 clubs have their own pages on the site that they manage individually through an interface. Sites can be entered through the District Portal or individual club URL’s if they want one. Check it our www.rotary5230.org
Sorry the link didn't work I'll try again
www.rotary5230.org
R.S. Bunker,
Where you been. There is no bishop in the EDoSJ right now. Should catch up on your reading. Seems to me the Argentinians are in over their head?!
Fred Schwartz | 03.14.08 - 8:56 am |
We have found leaving the space management left up to the club/church allows for more timely local information. The tool I’m involved in is an integrated communications tool between all ROTARY Clubs in this district. With the use of an interface, a web programmer is not needed. Check it out:
http://www.rotary5230.org
Josh Hoover | 03.14.08 - 10:28 am |
I almost posted the same though yesterday. I fully expcet Dave to retain the invitation.
Have any of you heard the "news" that the PB plans to have Duncan deposed before Lambeth? Apparently it was announced at the post-post HOB meeting press conference. According to a friend, the "Site that shall not be named" says they have no clue why with PB would want Duncan deposed. They postulate that the only reason isto force Rowan to come down on one side or the other.
Re. ex-Bishop Schofield's invitation to the 2008 Lambeth Conference, the great politico +Rowan Williams will be testing the waters before making a decision, according to British sources. If he continues to recognize the ex-Bishop as the legitimate Bishop of SJ, some African bishops might change their minds and attend the Lambeth Conference. If he recognizes the HoB's canonical authority to discipline one of its own, the Anglican Communion may break further apart on his watch.
Of course, the politico doesn't mind throwing honest bishops (duly elected or designated), as in the case of +Gene Robinson and/or Jeffrey John, under the bus based on the Caiaphas principle!
James 1 | 03.14.08 - 11:55 am | #
That makes sense to me. Since Schofield has been adopted (even though the diocese can't be as Jake has pointed out more than once) the ABC can do a little tap dance and still let him attend.
But, if Duncan is deposed by the only province that he can claim, then what? Of course he will claim that he never wanted to go in the first place. It isn't only the weather that is getting warmer, the next 3 months are going to be very interesting.
OK, which ones of ya'll am I gonna meet in Fresno tomorrow?
Dr. Val | 03.14.08 - 12:43 am |
I'll be there. I'll be the one wearing the shamrock...
I agree josh, but i look for Duncan to do a Schofield and thereby give Rowan more wiggle room.
I hope that Williams is picking up the message that our patience with all the backroom schismatic scheming and cabaling has come to an end. This affects not only Schofield, Duncan, et al. but him as well.
If Schofield, Minns et al. get invited to Lambeth and Robinson does not, there will be incredible outrage in the HOB, as well as the entire TEC. Williams will gave a huge crisis on his hands if he goes down that road. I don't think he's that stupid. But then what he does and does not do never ceases to amaze me ...
According to Fr. Van McAlister when we call JDS the ex-bishop we are malinging his good character. Just a thought since that reference is not permitted on the Diocese of Southern Cone.
Fred, IF I thought the EX-BISHOP had any good character, I might worry about it.
There was an interview done last year, in springtime I believe, where the ABC addressed the issue of Robinson's invitation...
He stated that he did not think he would invite either Robinson or Akinola, because he felt they would make the conference too much about themselves, and not about the church.
I believe he is trying to avoid an all out war between these two very opposing lifestyles.
He did also state that he wants the focus to be on the issues of the greater church, not on one's personal lifestyle choices.(my summation)
I have a slight tendency to agree with him. The issues surrounding Akinola and Robinson are so ultra controversial that it might take away from the greater focus of the conference.
It's time to have a little fun with this gruesome mess.
I've known John David Schofield since 1956 in almost every capacity.
I now call him J. Edgard Schofield.
If that doesn't say it all, I don't know what does.
Pondering "Pondering's" ponering, I don't agree. Rowan can do nothing to avoid the "war" because it's been going on for at least 5 yeasr, and the planning for it has been going on for at least 25 years.
The reasserters wanted war and they are having it at the expense of ruining the name of Christ in front of the entire world.
It's impossible for Rowan to prevent something that is well uner way.
oops!!of course I meant "Edgar"
Geepers, Fallen. where the heck are you from???? YOu now have the award for knowing David the longest. I relinquish my crown.
James,
A sticky situation at best. While I am still pondering...
I wonder what would you do if you were the ABC?
James
Please, please keep your crown. Mine went out with the trash years ago.
As for finding me,, write me at Ezduz44@aol.com, and we'll become fast friends !!
Well well...perchance our second witness may have just fallen from the sky? Imagine that.
There was an interview done last year, in springtime I believe, where the ABC addressed the issue of Robinson's invitation...
He stated that he did not think he would invite either Robinson or Akinola, because he felt they would make the conference too much about themselves, and not about the church.
Pondering,
I believe you're confused. Regrettably, the ABC has NEVER said he wouldn't invite Akinola.
You're probably thinking of Martyn Minns, of CANA (Nigeria, magically tranferred to Virginia).
*****
I wonder what would you do if you were the ABC?
That wasn't addressed to me, but I'll respond anyway:
Invite (to Lambeth) all canonical bishops of the provinces of the AC (inc. +Gene Robinson of TEC, but excluding those who are "extra-provincial", unless by agreement of the church in the geographic province where they are located), EXCEPT those who have (by their own admission) advocated violating the human rights of anyone (Adios, Akinola---and Minns! And Schofield)
Pondering,
I think that I would invite everyone and let the chips fall where they may. Let that be the determining factor in who is or is not going to be in communion with one another.
Besides, it would be such fun to watch the African prelate do the Akinola hop to avoid beigtouched bt any "liberal" bishop.
Man the wheels turn quickly. David is no longer listed in the RED Book online edition.
I was trying to find his birth date.
It's great to hear that so many wonderful things are happening in the Diocese of San Joaquin. It warms my heart. I'll continue to hold you in prayer in the coming weeks.
@James 1: Did you get my email?
At Home in TEC
Thank you everybody for your nice remarks!
Let us wait for the new website redirection.
I agree josh, but i look for Duncan to do a Schofield and thereby give Rowan more wiggle room.
James | 03.14.08 - 1:12 pm | #
But here's the thing. Schofield/Rowan can at least claim that the diocese left while Schofield was still canonically resident as bishop and tranferred to southern cone, making him the real deal.
If Duncan is deposed before such action occurs then he can no longer pull the same stunt, and if Nigerian et. al. take him on board then he is more like Minns.
I think deposing before they switch makes a lot of difference that the ABC as an academic will have to pay attention to. Or maybe I am just rooting so hard I have myself convinced.
Fred: when were you at Trinity, Orange?
RE Lambeth, Rowan should invite every single one of them, from Gene Robinson to bp Venables. Put them in a room and tell them that they each have 2 minutes to speak, no walkouts, and no interruptions.
Hey, Jake, the link to the new site is down right now. I'm afraid my fascist father in law (a vestry member at an ultraconservative parish, super antigay, the whole thing) will laugh in my face about stuff like this, so I hope the link will go back up real soon.
cany,
Lived in Orange in 1983-1985 and attended until I served on the search committee and we selected Victoria Hatch. Of course the vestry pciked picked Doug whathisname and we moved to Mesiah.
Fred: Ah... well after doug, we had Mother Ginny (15years!), and now Jeannie who will be invested May 4. Both are wonderful and I just adore Jeannie, who came from Florida.
We know a lot of the same people, then:) That particular parish has some VERY long-time members:)
You do get around, Fred:)
sherry
cany,
Better late than never. How about Jay and Jane MCCraken, Mary and Gene Robinson; Fr. Gil; to name a few. There also was a seminarian that went on to Studio City and the reporter of the Orange Independent. Our son appeared on the front page of that once upon a time. I also worked for OUSD for several years.
FYI: Mr. Schofield's birthdate is October 6, 1938.
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