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That's because Ms. Wagner was really PittGirl.
/Joking
//Or am I?
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11.20.08 - 8:45 am | #
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Great Post, people tend to see Bill Clinton is and town and not understand what it means. What it means is that this election is all but over. That's 75,000 dollars.
Maybe Ms. Wagner isn't PittGirl, but PittGirl would like to make a run! That's why she had to take the blog down, to start campaigning seriously.
Burgher Jon |
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11.20.08 - 9:58 am | #
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PittGirl might be the only one left that could beat him.
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11.20.08 - 10:07 am | #
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people tend to see Bill Clinton is and town and not understand what it means. What it means is that this election is all but over. That's 75,000 dollars.
YeeeeeeeHaw!
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11.20.08 - 10:40 am | #
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I come to the conclusion that this blog is without any doubt the most utterly useless thing on the internet.
A bunch of nattering nabobs sitting around wailing and moaning about the condition of the local political scene while simultaneously supporting and defending the same policies and ideas that created it on a national level.
I told you schmucks last year Ravensthal was going to be you mayor no matter what because that's the way the machine would have it...
The same machine that just installed Penny Pritzker, one of the chief architects and co-conspirators of the sub-prime meltdown, as Commerce Secretary.
If there's an ounce of shame or honor left in any of you Obama supporters and/or so called progressives, you should do the city and country a favor by finding the highest point in the city you can and jump from it.
You should all be ashamed of yourself, but you're not and that's precisely the problem.
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11.20.08 - 10:54 am | #
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"I come to the conclusion that this blog is without any doubt the most utterly useless thing on the internet," says Zim, a long-time utterly useless Burgh Report reader and commenter.
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11.20.08 - 11:39 am | #
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Hear that Zim? It's the black helicopters. They missed you at the Korbe's house, but not this time.
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11.20.08 - 11:42 am | #
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Zim,
Calling the election a year ago (or even now) is a bit premature. Though we are watching the odds of a Ravenstahl (and Machine) victory sliding towards 100%.
What blog or news source do you recommend Zim? Trib? Limbaugh? Fox? Talk about your wastes of time.
Burgher Jon |
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11.20.08 - 12:10 pm | #
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If Chelsa doesn't run, Doug probably will. If Doug runs, he might be able to win. Maybe...
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11.20.08 - 12:21 pm | #
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I'm not trusting the word on the street. There's a kabuki element to this. Having said that, I think the fact that being Mayor is not a great springboard is probably a factor.
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11.20.08 - 12:35 pm | #
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So if I throw myself off the Cathedral (of Leaning, or maybe tilting), that will defeat Ravenstahl how, Zim? And explain, please, how the current administration is better than the Democrats? Sure, Bush is no communist, but he is very, very inept. The last thing I would say he (or rather his administration) did well was the combat operations in Iraq (which were very successful). Since then he (or his administration) have botched the occupation, lost focus in Afghanistan, watched the housing bubble burst and poorly regulated lending make the problems worse, bungled Hurricane Katrina relief, as well as all the problems with the war on terror, the loss of rights and the treatment of "detainees" in Guantanemo. But the incoming administration just proposed Penny Pritzker for Commerce, which makes Obama so much worse than Bush that all Obama supporters should commit mass ritual suicide. NOW.
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11.20.08 - 2:14 pm | #
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Uh, Zim, about that machine and Pritzker (you've really got your finger on the pulse, Zimster!) here's the latest:
"UPDATE: The Chicago Tribune reports that Penny Pritzker, as Democratic insiders predicted, has taken herself out of the running:
Chicago billionaire Penny Pritzker has told Barack Obama's team she does not want to serve as Commerce Secretary, said a senior Obama official.
"Penny Pritzker ultimately has decided she does not want to do the Commerce thing," the senior official said."
Awaiting your blustery self-defense, Zim. Could her withdrawal be Clinton's fault, perhaps?
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11.20.08 - 2:41 pm | #
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"If Doug runs, he might be able to win. Maybe..."
Doug would be a great Mayor but I think he would have a lot of trouble outside of the East End.
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11.20.08 - 4:30 pm | #
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Doug would be a great Mayor but I think he would have a lot of trouble outside of the East End.
Unlike our current mayor who gets in trouble in _every_ part of the city?
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11.20.08 - 8:30 pm | #
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"Calling the election a year ago (or even now) is a bit premature."
I'm continually amazed at how many morons in this city and on this board actually believe there is a functioning democratic process and real elections in the city.
Zim didn't call the elections a year ago, Zim told you how the bosses would mandate the outcome and he's 100% correct.
The sooner you realize that and dispose of your childish fantasies about "elections" the sooner you can get comfortable with your role as useful idiot for the machine.
Luke Ravensthal is your mayor, Luke Ravensthal was always going to be your mayor, nobody in city government is going to be indicted for their crimes and there's not a single thing you could have done about it...
Deal with that reality.
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11.20.08 - 10:38 pm | #
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"So if I throw myself off the Cathedral (of Leaning, or maybe tilting), that will defeat Ravenstahl how, Zim?"
It won't ed, it will simply keep you and the idiot left from repeating the same mistakes in the future.
http://online.wsj.com/article/
SB...9966040053.html
When Pittsburgh is struggling with 20% unemployment in 2006 after the health care industry is gutted by the Obama administration's push for single payer health care please have the decency not to lie and say you weren't warned.
Massive sell off in pharma, medical technology and every other health care related industry this spring, DJIA & Nasdaq at 50% or less their current values by summer and massive layoffs in Pittsburgh's last remaining major industry.
Detroit is going to look like a gleaming paradise compared to Pittsburgh in four years... But hey, we'll have a cool, hip new black President so it'll all be worth it right?
The Obama voters just raked a razor across this entire region's jugular and don't even know it yet.
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11.20.08 - 10:58 pm | #
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Whether she accepts or not the fact that Penny Pritzker was part of Obama's campaign in the first place and considered, even for a moment, for any position in the administration speaks loudly and clearly to the lack of ethics and morals we can expect from the man who promised changed and has only delivered Clinton Administration Part II complete with every crony and crook from Part I being signed on.
Eric Holder? Give me a freaking break. I knew Obama was a complete fraud from the outset, but even I'm shocked by the appointments.
It's a complete disaster unfolding in front of our very eyes.
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11.20.08 - 11:05 pm | #
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word on the street is Doug will NOT be running... same with CW.
I hope it isn't so about Lamb. I hope ML is not holding his breath waiting for Danny O to move to Harrisburg.
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11.20.08 - 11:14 pm | #
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I really wish I could take credit for predicting an election as far out as is suggested, but really it's no prediction at all. I simply vocalized the reality of the City of Pittsburgh's political situation that exists and can be observed by anyone who isn't shilling on behalf of the Democratic Party. Elections, in the city, *bwahahaha* man that one never get old I tell ya!
And it is the selection of someone so devoid of ethics, someone so deeply and personally involved in the creation of our current economic crisis as Penny Pritzker is that tells us what we need to know about the Obama administration. Not whether she accepts the position or not.
She is but one of a long list of ethically challenged Washington insiders that are being considered for or are already in the Obama administration.
If this is change, you can keep it.
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But the current administration has no ethically challenged individuals, starting from the top, moving to number 2, and moving on down. We should keep those people.
Come to think of it, PG, I haven't heard you indulge any level of decency to admit that the Bush administration has been an ethical and operational disaster.
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11.21.08 - 7:02 am | #
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so ed, a year from now when single pay health care is beginning to be implemented and upmc and pitt begin laying off thousands and the city is imploding are you still going to be yapping on about the bush administration?
are you aware ed that just two years ago, when rick santorum and melissa hart were senior members of a majority party in both houses of congress, the university of pittsburgh was the eight in the nation in total funding from nih and in the two years since the invisible senator from the east bob casey and his party took over it's dropped to nineteenth? do you know that the ranking is expected to drop by the same amount over the next two years? money not cut ed, money being directed to other institutions and regions by the very people you voted for and support. and just wait until after the 2010 census when western pa loses two of its congressional representatives.
you just keep on yammering about the bush administration while the democrats you're so enamored with gut this city and serve its entrails up on the alter of machine politics to the party bosses.
think the seventies were hard on pittsburgh? just you wait and see what's coming down the road. what ever happens in the broader economy pittsburgh is f**ked big time.
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I thought that Republicans were against the idea of pork, triple ecks. I thought that's what John McCain was running on. Or are the NIH grants awarded based on merit? Could it be that Pitt is so focused on fund raising (and UPMC on cutting costs) that the research end of things in being neglected? And in any even what does that have to do with the Pittsburgh economy as a whole?
So I am not allowed to look back at the failed Bush administration. Everything is the fault of the Democrats, who have had control in the Congress for not quite two years, during which the Republicans in the Senate set records for blocked cloture votes and personal holds placed on legislation. The Democrats have not yet assumed the White House, yet you have already blamed them for a coming recession, without acknowledging any role for the previous administration in this recession. You have already accused all Obama appointees of being corrupt without acknowledging the corruption of the previous administration. And you accuse me of being enamored of local Democrats when I supported (as vocally as I could) DeSantis in the last Mayoral campaign.
So how would you solve the current financial crisis, xxx, Zim, PG or whomever? Your predictions are nothing if you can not offer solid analysis and reasonable prescription.
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11.21.08 - 9:18 am | #
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Doug Shields got 8,634 votes in May 2007 in a city wide race.
As a point of contrast, in November, I got about 7,000 votes total, 6.5K for controller -- same race.
I'd even venture a guess that a good number of those votes were from the same people. The overlap -- perhaps up to 60-percent. (Wild guess)
Doug's base is in the same realm as mine. FWIW, that ain't much.
The office and opponent are factors too. I doubt that many feel Doug would be qualified for mayor and not qualified for controller.
I'd HATE to see Luke Ravenstahl have a free pass in the 2009 D primary to the general election in Nov 2009.
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11.21.08 - 12:07 pm | #
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In fairness to Doug, Mark, a one-on-one for mayor is a little different than a five-way for controller. There's more attention paid (or there should be) and there's a much greater opportunity to weave a narrative of one's own accord. But I'm not aware that Shields is considering it.
FWIW, Burgher, I would bet against "kabuki" being in play, but I guess I wouldn't be thunderstruck.
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11.21.08 - 1:58 pm | #
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Installed, selected, accepts--whatever Zim. After all, It's just English.
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11.22.08 - 1:02 pm | #
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Word on the street is, there's a lot of old chewing gum and cigarette butts down here. Other than that, the street isn't really a good source of information.
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11.22.08 - 1:04 pm | #
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"are you aware ed that just two years ago, when rick santorum and melissa hart were senior members of a majority party in both houses of congress, the university of pittsburgh was the eight in the nation in total funding from nih and in the two years since the invisible senator from the east bob casey and his party took over it's dropped to nineteenth?"
So Rick and Missy are crappy investigators and can't write a decent R01 proposal, along with being unemployed repugnican hacks, so relying on them to replace the talented people who are no longer at Pitt was a bad strategy?
Or Rick and Missy were also program officers at the NIH and personally put the kibosh on those R01 apps from other universities in order to boost good old Art Levine's School of Health Insurance Teat Draining Professions?
teh logic, it burns...
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Somebody commented that the police said this law would take illegal guns off the street. I would love to know how first of all and secondly, what law abiding person doesn’t report his gun stolen when that fact is realized? If your gun is stolen and used in a crime, it's a slam dunk that if the gun is found as a tool in a crime the police will be knocking on your door. Daaaaa, the way to keep that from happening is to report your gun stolen.
Common people use your brain a legally owned and registered gun isn’t stolen by a saint; it's a criminal who steals a gun. Any gun owner knows that this must be reported as soon as possible to avoid criminal investigations from being levied on the innocent gun owner.
This law has absolutely NO crime stopping or illegal gun retrieval value at all beyond the current laws.
And the statement "reasonable gun laws" referring to additional gun laws of course; all the reasonable gun laws are already on the books. What more do you need than it's a serious crime to kill someone. A criminal can’t possibly legally purchase a gun and if he kills someone, that's life in prison. All other laws punish law abiding citizens who have the most basic right to protect his own life.
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