that is a really good idea - the right of return is exactly the correct criterion to use to separate worthwhile interlocutors from people who are just playing some sort of 'reformed zionism' game.
Interesting article about the Christian Palestinians - any comments or do we pretend it doesn't happen??
http://www.asianews.it/view.php?...p?l=en&
art=7003
“Damn Mossad – they killed the American Jew who tried to rescue Christians from Islamofacists,” – Abe Foxman, national director ADL.
“A Christian is permitted to preach the gospel in a church building, but for the clergy or anyone to even tell anyone about teachings in Bible outside the church building will bring a 5 years prison sentence.
For a Christian to give a Bible or religious article to a Jew will also bring a 5 years sentence. Even an act of kindness by a Christian toward a Jew such as giving a gift of food, can be interpreted as trying to convert the Jew to Christianity and can bring a 5-year prison sentence.”
http://www.holywar.org/txt/berns.../
bernstein.html
Where's Mohammed's blog? Can't find it on your links section.
I guess it is probably Iamanislamicfascist.blogspot.com
Why would you want to go there?
There aint no blog named that.
Try "meditteraneanfishbait.blogspot.com"
I assume that is what happens to the bodies of Arab children after the commit suicide on behalf of their parents.
I don't know if Mohammed even has a blog. There is a Mohammed who does, http://www.khobbeizeh.blogspot.com/ and a lovely blog it is, and I must remember to add it to the sidebar! I have a bunch of links to add and a few to delete, and thanks for reminding me of this one!
"Where's MO's blog gone to?"
- I heard Justin Raimondo asking just the other day!
This notice has been brought to you by the Campaign to Morally Blackmail MO (using soft soap)
"Damn Arnaud de Borchgrave," - Abe Foxman, national director ADL
Hezbollah ("Party of God"), listed as a terrorist organization by the U.S., is now seen as the clear victor over Israel, the Middle East's only democracy. For Israel to lose 116 soldiers is comparable to the U.S. losing 5,800 in 34 days of warfare (multiply by 50 to get the equivalent population ratio). So far, the U.S. has lost 2,600 in 3-1/2 years in Iraq).
To compound the strategic setback for Israel, the Olmert government failed to achieve any of its objectives. Hezbollah was not flushed out of the territory between Israel's northern border and the Litani River. It still has an Iran-supplied arsenal of some 10,000 hidden rockets after firing 150 a day into Israeli towns, villages and kibbutzim. And Hezbollah chief Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, 46, has achieved iconic status throughout the Middle East, bridging the Shi'ite-Sunni divide. Flushed with this victory, Iran has told the United States to take a hike and mind its own business about the mullahocracy's nuclear plans.
Israel also lost its trademark of military invincibility. Mobilized reservists complained to the media about faulty planning, poor equipment and haphazard resupply in food and water. Some parched Israeli soldiers took the water canteens from dead Hezbollah guerrillas. Worst of all, substandard intelligence failed to show the extent of Hezbollah's underground infrastructure just beyond the Israeli border. Reservists staged a protest in Jerusalem to demand the resignations of the prime minister, defense minister and chief of staff. ('Iran scores in world war' in The Washington Times)
Don't imagine the Washongton Times is on your side, Shaukat.
Shaukat is letting success go to his head!
This just in from the great Osama McSaeed's blog -
" George Galloway will be doing his weekly radio talk-in shows live from Beirut this weekend.
George has gone to Lebanon to show his solidarity with the many families who have had family members killed and injured and who have lost their homes, their work and their businesses, and also to show his support for the Lebanese resistance that the Israeli military was so singularly unable to defeat.
We hope you will tune into his programme on Saturday and Sunday between 8pm and 10pm on talkSport 1089/1053 AM "
http://www.osamasaeed.org/osama/
...miss_georg.html
All the best!
Thanks for your efforts, Mare.
Hi RB - I thought you would be much smarter than that - I know who runs 'The Washington Times' - And I would never allow joe's such garbage 'go to my head':
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/...cle.asp?
ID=4483
Joe, Only if you collaborated so I wouldn't have to be a slave to it.
Ya Kohn, so many kill themselves on orders of their parents (laughs). Why, Iz doesn't kill any.
Are you stating that the Palestinian leadership doesn't try to convince children to commit suicide for Allah?
Are you brainless as well as stupid?
"Man I am getting tired of this dumbZionist, who is bent on ignoring the great work my Israeli friends are doing in brainwashing Jewish kids," - complains Abe Foxman, national director ADL:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/
1270038.stm
I support the right to return.
I've been linked to you, for a few weeks.
MarxistfromLebanon is joining my blog team. He is at http://marxistfromlebanon.blogspot.com .
Yasser Arafat encourages and legitimizes suicide bombing attacks against Israel:
Religious Islamic terminology encouraging the attacks was found in a condolence telegram Arafat sent to the family of a Hamas military operative in 2001. The terrorist had been involved in planning suicide bombing attacks against Israel and orchestrated the preparations which led to the suicide bombing of the Passover Seder at the Park Hotel in Netanya in March, 2002.
The signature of Arafat , who is described as the president of the “State of Palestinian,” Chairman of the Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and head of the Palestinian National Authority. It appeared on the condolence telegram sent to the family of ‘ Amir Mansur al-Hadiri , a Hamas military operative who was held in high esteem in the Tulkarm area. He was active in planning suicide bombing attacks, involved in the preparations which led to the suicide bombing of the Passover Seder {Footnote about what the Seder is} at the Park Hotel in Netanya in March, 2002 and was eventually slain in an Israeli targeted killing. The telegram was recently found among documents captured during a search of the Tulkarm branch of Al-Ihsan Charitable Society, which operates under the aegis of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Indeed, during the current violent confrontation, Arafat has often used religious Islamic terminology to encourage the suicide bombers .
http://www.intelligence.org.il/e...at/
ar_12_03.htm
"Was it Yassar Arafat or Terrorist Begin, who directed suicide-bombing at King David Hotel in Jerusalem ahead of Zionazi state?" - could someone please let me know by phoning Abe Foxman at ADL Headquarters.
Who committed suicide at King david? Exactly which child strapped on a suicide belt to kill himself along with some ampling warned British?
You do know the British were asked to evacuate the hotel because it was going to be blown up?
Blowing up the King David was a message.
All you support is killing Jews.
Yep - The Jews always tell their victims to run out of their homes so they could be easy targets of Zionazi barbarians - We just saw that in Southern Lebanon.
"Who have killed more Christians than Jews," - asks Abe Foxman, national director ADL?
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occu...ments-
USSR.html
"Let me warn all my ADL barking dogs - don't read this 'self-hating' Jewess blogger," - Abe Foxman
http://avigail.customer.netspace.net.au/
Who has killed more christians than Jews? Just about every group, especially Muslim groups. Islamic fascism has a long history of slaughtering christians.
Why did you ask? trying to get beyond your standard ignorance?
Talking of blogs, if you don't mind a bit of angry language, try this one:
http://www.suspectpaki.com/index.php
Hi dear friend,
I'm a Belgian cartoonist and journalist.
I recently discovered your Blog and I read the articles with great interest, thank you. I visit it frequently now.
I recently realized many cartoons about the war in Lebanon to criticize Tsahal blind violence and killings of innocents. I also drew cartoons about The suffering endured by Palestinians. You can have a direct look to a sample of these cartoons on a "Syriacartoon" gallery:
http://www.syriacartoon.com/gall...llery/
heine.htm
I wanted to tell you that I would be really honoured if some of my work would appear on your Blog, may be accompanying some of your great texts.
By the way, I'll add your Blog url on my links Blog page, Ok?
I hope to get an answer from you. Impatient to read your new articles.
Good night
Ben
"I would not allow my barking dog to read this Israeli Jew's blog - lest he find out the truth about Zionism and start warning Christians about the lies ADL propagandists have been posting all over internet," - remarks Abe Foxman, national director ADL.
http://www.geocities.com/
schosse...tchristians.htm
Ben, I just loved your cartoons! I will be really really honoured and happy to link and to use some of your work! There is another friend of mine who is a fantastic cartoonist, http://kalvellido.blogsome.com/ has a nice blog.
Shaukat, the Schossen site is pretty interesting! As to Avigail, we used to be quite good friends, and I like her a lot. She is a courageous and intelligent woman.
What is truly interesting is the sick pandering of Mary Rizzo to her favorite antisemite.
Sexual history, perhaps?
iby, you are so funny and so mentally weird! why do you make me laugh so much?!
Poor Iby, he is beginning to scrape the ground with his knuckles as he walks.
I resist saying something crude right now out of respect for pious Muslim readers.
I haven't heard anything from any pious Muslim readers. In fact, with all of the BS posted by Shaukat, I'm surprised that there would be any pious Muslim readers.
So do your worst, Mo-ron. It couldn't be any filthier than joe90's occationally haggis laden propaganda.
Kohn, was that you in Long Beach who called in the bomb threat so he wouldn't miss his flight?
Is your name Yechezkel Wells?
"http://cbs2.com/topstories/
local_story_240190828.html"
Mo(ron), is your real name Ingrid Zundel?
I'd just thought I'd chime in here that I think the ROR is totally feasible as long as it does not come disguised as a "death to Israel and the Jews" Trojan Horse. Once example of how that might be accomplished is the ingathering of ALL the exiles, 11m Diaspora Jews + 5m Israeli Jews +1m Israeli-Palestinians + 2.5m West Bank & Gaza Palestinians + 4m Palestinian refugees =a whole lotta people, but Abu-Sitta claims it can be done, and if it can be done, with enough utopianism and good will, people will try...eventually. Or, alternatively, Israel could repatriate all 300,000 or so still-living Palestinian refugees born on Mandatory soil on or before May 14, 1948 (those born after within the borders of Israel are internally displaced persons, and Israelis) as a one-time ex-gratia measure.
Since both of these proposals will be unacceptable to standard ROR proponents, we see what they really desire is the Trojan Horse, and the restoration of dhimmitude to Palestine's non-Jewish population, in place of the freedom guaranteed non-Muslims and Muslims alike by Israel...(just not the freedom to rule EVERYONE by Shari'a, though Israeli Muslims, like Israeli Jews, Israeli Christians, and Israeli Baha'i have matters of birth, burial, marriage and inheritance governed by their religious law.)
I don't insist on a "Jewish state." I am willing to be governed by the Baha'i, with Haifa as the capital. However, I doubt the Islamic world is ready for it as "takfir"--declaring someone an infidel--seems to be the procedure applied to Baha'i. And apologies if my apostrophes are in the wrong places...
But Eurosabra, my little dumpling, the 11 m remaining diaspora Jews (if there are really that many?) are not descendents of anyone "exiled" from the region within the last few thousand years, if indeed their ancestors ever lived there.
Also, I happen to know a great many Jews here in London who have no desire whatever to "return" to the region, and view zionism as a bit of a regrettable error, though they do not regard it as a "blasphemy", being "liberals". I am considering going to their synagogue, such as it is, for a while, because it is full of pretty girls.
Anyone familiar with the London Jewish scene will note that all the rabbis in the so called "liberal movement" (many or even most of whom seem these days to be female) are trained at the "Leo Baeck Institute", whose library I can recommend, it's very good.
Eurosabra, your objections to dhimmitude, if this is a word, are no greater than mine to the loathsome so-called "Noahide movement", championed by the machiavellian Lubavitchers.
Since you are not very religious, I expect you agree with me that the Lubavitchers are bad news. They are also the most amazing hypocrites, and generators of pseudo-mystical bullshit, I have ever come across, and it is not reassuring to find that, thanks to vast amounts of graft, they have the ears of both Bush and Putin.
They will still be around when the Mafdal has disintegrated into chaos, as it often seems likely to do, since the theology of the Rabbis Kook, both father and son, is nonsense.
Thankfully, Lubavitch are not so powerful here in the UK as they are in the sanctimonious and gullible USA. Our Jewish "movers and shakers" behind the scenes are not, whatever else one may say about them, generally Orthodox (though Thatcher was rather influenced by the Orthodox Reichmann real estate clan, which created, among other things, Canary Wharf, IIRC)
p.s. Eurosabra, your apostrophes are very nice. Really.
Since Rowan is so quick to deny Jews their rights, we must assume that he is willing to deny rights to any group he doesn't like.
But only he has the right to chose which.
I wonder why the lame are so quick to claim the crown of the Reich?
"I wonder why the lame are so quick to claim the crown of the Reich?"
-- um .. what the fuck are you talking about, Iby?
So many blog site and forum owners have asked the same of you with no results.
Rowan,
Most of my family are Lubavitcher Hasidim. I might even be considered a refugee from Hasidism. They are a bit loopy, but nothing like the supposed Elders. The Noahide laws are intended to allow non-Jews to govern according to their own laws (the "establish justice" requirement applies only to the establishment of a law code and functioning court system, not only Jewish law, even Shari'a might fit the bill and British Common Law, the German BGB and StGB, Le Code Napoléon certainly do) while avoiding idolatry, theft, murder, sexual immorality, denying the existence of god and consuming the limb of a live animal. Perhaps you can tell me which of these you balk at renouncing. Only the Land of Israel, Jerusalem, and the Temple are to be governed according to strict Halacha, moreover, as Halachic "resident strangers" Palestinians (who are NOT in the Torah and therefore cannot be Amalek per se, though indiv. Palestinians may be descendants of Amalek) might even come off better than with the non-Halachic Jewish state we now have. Certainly the current land expropriations in the Territories are not halachically(sp?) correct...
Dhimma, on the other hand, is a series of negative restrictions above all else, of discriminatory taxation (Jizya vs. Zakat, and bear in mind that Dhimmis probably also pay Tsedakah & alms, tithes within their own communities), discriminatory courtroom procedure (Shari'a), limitations on religious freedom, explicitly different values placed on human life depending on religious identity, etc. (cf. modern Iran.) Joe90 may go ape-$#^! psych0 with some justification about the excessively light penalties imposed on Israelis, historically speaking, for murdering and maltreating Palestinians--a Shari'a and/or Halachic state would not suffer from that particular failing...
Euro, I applaud your tenacity but wonder why you bother with such a mental midget like berkeley.
Iby, was that a (gasp) compliment? Guess you are a typical Zionist racist, only human to your own kind. Hitler would have allied with you.
Hitler would have fathered you.
Exactly what was racist about exposing the gimp's mental lack?
If Hitler fathered me, I'd be an Israeli. Are you a decendant from one of the Jewish Bolsheviks who murdered the Czar, Czarina and their little children in Russia?
The idea that the only basis for objecting to the imposition of the "Noahide Law" concept on non-Jews is that one insists on the right to murder, commit adultery, etc., is breathtakingly arrogant.
However, I have come across other people from Orthodox backgrounds who are breathtakingly arrogant but also in some ways rather nice. Consider for example, Shmarya who runs
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/
Why if. mo? Are you now, like Rowan, that upset about not being chosen that you forsake your birthright?
I don't believe in your Torah or the concept of chosen people. I believe in Christ, His spirit of goodness and kindness.
MO, it's not like you have any knowledge to discuss what you believe and why.
All you've done is peruse white supremist sites that supported your hatreds.
By the way, If you do not believe the Jews are chosen by God, then your faith in Christ is through ignorance. More proof that you are a moron.
What white supremacist sites?
"If you do not believe the Jews are chosen by God, then your faith in Christ is through ignorance."
er... Iby... the normal belief of Christians is that once upon a time 'the Jews' (or to be exact, the Israelites) were 'chosen by God', but that they forfeited this election through selfishness. This remains the normal belief of Christians, despite the sneering term 'substitutionism', now employed by Jews to marginalise or problematise it.
Poor Rowan, you take your white supremist learnings to much to heart. Christians still believe that the Jews are the chosen of God.
You should quit relying of white supremist sites for your information. It makes you look foolish.
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