Off topic. Suggested reading or repost:
March 2, 2008
Neo-lefties supporting World War Three
by Bob Finch
http://themundiclub.blogspot.com...-war-
three.html
I'm amazed by those Marxist commentators who still haven't figured out that the Zionist genocide is part of the same Jewish conspiracy that brought us Marxism. This is particularly sad in the case of a Palestinian intellectual who should have figured out by now that both Marxism and Zionism are nothing but an ideological vehicle to steal everything of value from an entire country. The likes of above author are desperately trying to sell their Chomskyesque 'all evil is made in America' theory, when in reality America is nothing but a Jewish colony providing the funds and canon fodder for the Jewish quest for world domination. Andrew Winkler
Editor/Publisher
I am going to get heat from this by folks that think I write all the comments. If you attack this one, be sure you give equal time to MHoward, Mihael and the Nakba Deniers. -ed
Edited By Siteowner
http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/art...102686/diff/4/
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thanks so much to Dave for sending me this!!! you must check it out, the BBC wrote and published TEN versions of the news story, and Newssniffer hightlights the changes!
atheo - that Bob Finch article is magnificent. Thanks.
Both links above are excellent! Thanks!
The Israeli Knesset passted a law towards the end of last year to make it a crime in Israel to compare the IDF to the Nazis or the Holocaust to what is happening in Gaza, because they were PLANNING this shoah then. It's official policy, and the word "shah" by that Israeli minister was no slip of the tongue.
in the comments there is someone who has banned me from his site (I'm the first one he claims enjoys this dubious honour) complaining that I am small minded to not post his previous comments here.
I have forwarded them to the person who sent me the article, so the author can see them.
More than that, I won't do.
I can't even access the site that banned me, so I don't think I owe him space here.
If you're talking about the site i'm thinking of, then i think you may be the 2nd person he has banned! The only comments that site gets have all been deleted, and the only people who have commented are those who have a bone to pick with him. No-one else is interested in saying a word related to all the garbage there, and nobody links to it either, cos it's a 100% hate site.
it's Ziopedia
ah, that's not the one i had in mind then 
Mary, I banned you temparily because of comments that you made on my site that were attacking my integrity. It was my way of telling you that you had gone too far. My comments today on your site today, on the other hand, were a thoughtful and valuable contribution concerning one of the articles on your site, not you or your site. You put your personal vendetta above my valuable contribution to the discourse on your site. That's what i called small minded.
The NATO bombed Serbia.
The NATO does not bomb Israel.
Is the NATO a detached force of IDF?
"Fabius-Gayssot law" is strong Israel protection and defence law.
Andrew, my comments too were a contribution, although you don't see it that way. Not only would you not print them, you insulted me and banned me, preventing even logging on, calling me some very unsavoury names.
So, I am allowing this so you can say that I am small minded, and that will be the end of that.
Andy, Do you agree with "Fabius-Gayssot law"?
I think that there is freedom of speech in Gitta Sereny Lucy Dawidowicz and Deborah Lipstadt.
Gitta Sereny Lucy Dawidowicz and Deborah Lipstadt are the Jewish women who are believing in Holocaust blindly.
"Fabius-Gayssot law" is strong Israel protection and defence law.
I decisively reject "Fabius-Gayssot law".
The bill knuckles referred to, which was proposed, but not yet approved, as far as I can ascertain-- is aimed at banning the display of Nazi swastikas by neo-Nazi groups, in other words, mostly young skinheads who have infiltrated the ranks of ex-Soviet immgrants to Israel, and gives the state the right to prosecute them for displaying the swastika and the like in a country that is still has a sizable population of elderly Holcaust survivors. It is quite understandable, though a misguided effort, to want to protect that population from having to experience a flashback to the worst time of their lives in their golden years--particularly as they are fortunate to live in their own homeland now. It is also aimed at extreme Israeli right-wing settler supporters, who demonstrated against the evacuation of Gush Qatif and northern Samaria by the Sharon government by portraying themselves as victims of a Nazi-like genocide and wore yellow stars and compared the same IDF soldiers who risk their lives to protect them to Nazis. While I agree that such an egregious abuse of the memory of the Shoah's victims is lamentable, the attempt to legislate against it is wrong and would be a violation of Israel's tradition of free speech. Nevertheless, knuckle's characterisation of the intent of the bill is incorrect.
Israel has been planning this shoah against the Palestinian people for a long time, which is why they passed a law in late November 2007 to make it a jailable crime for bloggers, journalists, teachers, activists etc. to compare Israeli crimes to the Holocaust and the IDF to the nazis, or to use yellow stars, stripes (and presumably Zyklon B)!!
More about this cynical law here:
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com...ggersactivists/
The Israeli terrorists took over where the Nazis left off, and have shown that they are more than capable of even worse horrors, and are planning to continue carrying them out, if the world allows them.
Israel must be stopped, one way or another!
I see why Mary didn't post Winkler's comment, at first. There's a lot of this stuff going round the internet. I don't think it's helpful - because it distracts from the REAL 'jewish' conspiracy. I needn't spell that out (compare Weimar and New York), because it's so obvious - it's just that we're not allowed to notice it ( 'so-called' Marxists being heavily represented in the 'disallowers', admittedly). Marx wrote a lot of stuff, and no two Marxists seem to agree what he meant about anything; but he provided a very useful critique of the propaganda which was and is mainstream political economy. He said that he hoped that this would provide a useful resource for working-class activists. Unfortunately, he gave hostages to fortune by including a 'predictive' element in his work, his 'iron-clad laws of history', and a 'mystical', or snake-oil, element - the 'dialectic'. These two elements have given rise to volume upon volume of bewildering and dispiriting gobbledegook - I think this is what Israel Shamir refers to as 'Talmudic Marxism'. That the purveyors of this gobbledegook are disproportionately jewish, makes it tempting to see this as part of a psychological warfare program, along with Freud and his brother Bernays; but it may just be that all those generations of Talmudic study have produced a jewish element who have a rare talent for gobbledegook, so not proven, for me.
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Likewise much is read into little (if any) evidence of jewish western bankers financing some of the leading Bolsheviks (because they had a grudge against the Tsar), and the disproportionate number of Jews amongst the Bolsheviks - these two factors are not provenly related, and, even if a case could be made to link these with jewish strategies in Germany, the UK, and the US, there is no obvious link with Marxism. Marx's goal was to educate the workers that effective democracy can only come with 'social control' of the means of production and distribution; that some jewish, or other , elites found ways to use that for their own ends, doesn't make Marx part of a conspiracy. Marx was NOT jewish - he had jewish ancestry, but had nothing (known) to do with jewry, and is, in fact, often considered an antisemite, Marx gets it from both sides.
I do, on the other hand, wonder sometimes if there is a case that 'Marxism' as it exists today. what 'Marxists' have made of Marx, does now effectively serve elite jewish (or zionist, the polite word) ends - there are only two shibboleths for these groups (Trotskyists mostly) now - mass immigration good, and the J -word bad = antisemitism = racism = nazism. Don't blame this on Marx. The simple rejoinder to these 'Marxists' is that they claim to be against racism, and they reject the notion that there are iq differences between 'races'; so how do they account for the hugely disproportionate percentage of jews in America's (and Weimar's, and that's not to justify whatever Hitler did) financial elites - the jewish elites operate a racist, mafia conspiracy, as they do wherever they go! This is called 'classic antisemiism'. It's 'classic' because it's true. But we can't mention this because that will lead to another 'holocaust'. You know the rest.
THAT'S the problem, Fonz! Not Marxism.
I see why Mary didn't post Winkler's comment, at first. There's a lot of this stuff going round the internet. I don't think it's helpful - because it distracts from the REAL 'jewish' conspiracy. -- Lafayette Senacherib
Hilarious, comment. You don't like it, so it's okay for Mary to censor it. It's all a question of the perspective, isn't it. It's like genocide and ethnic cleansing is okay when done by Jews, but not if it's done to Jews.
Andrew - I used to enjoy your site but have not seen fit to purchase a subscription. Mary's site provides similar hard-hitting information, but is available to all. I understand and do not begrudge the fact that sometimes having a pay site is a choice the site owner has to make. That being said, Mary has obviously given you a forum here that Ziopedia cannot provide for her.
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Mary is free to post articles and comments on the ZioPedia site. I only temporarily banned her from the site because of comments made that were less than helpful during the difficult transition to a partly subscription based model.
oh yeah... temporarily banned?? (and insulted). It's ok, I just thought it was WAY over the top that you act like the most persecuted thinker and writer in the world. Fine, having an income or some economic support for doing things is not bad, it's the way you do it that is totally unacceptable. What's the money for? To do for pay what millions do for free? Would you be putting it into charity or your pocket? I may add some donation thing here at some time, as I am involved in an expensive editorial project, but I don't think I will approach it in the victim way you did, which is laughable, considering that Gazans and Palestinians in general in refugee camps are living with 1 to 3$ a day (this information came from an economic analyist in Bruxelles that I saw last week).
Besides, if we are talking about small minds, In public you can say you "temporarily" banned me, but last time I tried to log in, finding out there was an article from here, I was blocked, because my IP has been banned by you. Just glad to know I was the first one! I can add it to the list of the other gatekeepers who don't ban me, but spread all kind of false info about me and don't let me set it straight. That is actually worse. I can live without another anti-zionist site. If it engages in banning and gatekeeping anti-Zionists, I don't need what it might offer.
In fact, tomorrow there will be an incredible article here by Gilad precisely about freedom of speech and banning and all kinds of gatekeeping and censorship.
He keeps coming out with the best stuff. The more they try to shut him up, the louder he gets. This is resistance.
Andy, I cannot tell the difference between you and Greenstein.
Andy, You are useless as Holocaust Revisionist and Anti-Zionist.
Andy, Ms. Rizzo is the only Jewish Woman who can criticize Deborah Lipstadt.
Andy, You are making Ms. Rizzo an enemy.
Natural Science, if you cannot tell the difference between me and Greenstein you should better shut up, because it's embarrassing. So are you following two statements. As far as your 4th statement is concerned, speak for yourself.
Knuckles: They didn't pass the law and it is dead as of now--it was merely proposed in the Knesset but not enacted. All kinds of laws are proposed without BECOMING laws. You are, therefore, incorrect, and desertpease's blog is not an adequate source. These are:
http://news.walla.co.il/?w=//1198702
http://64.233.167.104/custom?
q=c...070744872185334
As I stated before, the law was NOT passed-and its intent, though misguided, is not according to your characterization. Its intent is to outlaw neo-Nazi skinheads from displaying the swastika in a country where many Holocuast refugees still live. It also bans right-wing Jewish settlers from manipulating the memory of the Holocaust by comparing themselves to Shoah victims when they are evacuated from their illegal outposts by the IDF--a tactic that they have used by donning yellow armbands and the like.
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