Give it to us straight. Remember, please don't scandalize Candy's readers with adult content.
Nowombpods dot com. At Blogger. An interesting handle name.
The actual name of the blog is "Refuse to be a Womb Pod". I got the name from one of my first blog posts,
http://nowombpods.blogspot.com/2...t-womb-
pod.html
What is a womb pod?
Why is everyone jumping on Becky just because she has a different view on submission than the majority?
Sorta the same thing that happened to Ginger with John Knox. After all, Knox is making a resurgence of importance in Reformed thinking today. Ginger shouldn't have to defend her beliefs here, right? Everyone is entitled to live and let live here - that is correct, right?
Um, Ginger jumped on ME for mentioning John Knox, actually.
I just checked with my husband. He does not want to tell me who to vote for. Actually, he started laughing and said "I'm not a neo-Nazi".
So I guess I'm good, then, when I go to the polls and select the candidate of my choosing.
Kentucky- If I remember correctly, it was Ginger who jumped on someone for mentioning Knox in an unfavorable light, not the other way around...
This post caused me to just about spit my drink all over my monitor.. ha ha ha ha..
Anyway, I don't post here often.. it's been awhile since my last post.. but I do read the comments and laugh alot.
Hey, I just received a notice that there was new comment as I was typing.. neat.. it doesn't take much to impress me..
Well hell.
Subbing.
"Welcome to the Hoover Dam. Please stay together on the Dam tour, and feel free to take all the Dam pictures you want..." Natn'l Lampoons Vegas Vacation. Love it.
On the issue of wifely submission, I guess I have it easy. We are a Christian couple and fully believe in the husband's headship over the wife, but I have never had occasion to put myself to the test, I guess. My husband is a great leader in our family in terms of being the chief disciplinarian and spiritual leader. I know I want to always be a good wife to him, but I don't really know how I'd react if he were the type of husband who does things like call me "woman" or expect me to wait on him hand and foot or check with him about every little thing.
I'm a former feminazi, you see. Hard to believe because I'm so darn sweet, but it's true.
If he wants me to do something, he asks respectfully. If the house is a wreck (which it often is) he asks, "Bad day, huh...can I fold a basket of laundry for you?" He has never once ordered me to do or not to do something. I guess because of all that, I really delight in serving him and taking care of him and it doesn't seem weird to me to just say, "Honey, do you mind if I go out with the girls tonight" or "Would it be alright with you if I got myself a pair of new shoes?" He knows that the respect due to him is there, and because I treat him with respect, he is very loving.
But like I said, knowing the person I used to be, I just don't know if my old woman-in-combat-boots would be roused by a more controlling domineering man. Interesting to think about, though.
Ok, I guess I am computer illiterate cause what is subbing and how does one get emails when new posts are up? Sorry to be showing my stupidity...
Renee
The exchange went like this:
MHM:
And yesterday, I read John Knox (gotta love Project Gutenburg) and Mulieris Dignatatum back to back, and once again praise God I'm Catholic!
Although I'm not sure what I expected from a document entitled, "The First Trumpet Blast of the Monstrous Regiment of Women". I have a soft spot for Scots, but DANG! Couldn't finish it at one go.
(Knox came up in Phillip's latest blog post. He -DP- has a peculiar brand of revisionist history that reminds me of our favorite friend!)
GINGER
Can I ask, since those that are not catholic here, we are not making fun of priests or the pope here. Can we lay off of John Knox and other great preachers of his sort? I love his preaching and others like him. I bet some of the other ones here do as well.
MHM
Ginger,
You may enjoy his sermons, but John Knox was a hateful misogynist. He offended Q. Elizabeth so much with his anti-woman rants he had to go live in Geneva.
A very few quotes from Mr. Knox:
For [that] the venom and malice of Satan reigns in all Papists (for the most part) is now more evident, even to infants, than that it can greatly hurt any, except such as willingly, and with insatiable appetite, do drink the poison of that harlot's cup, either for fear of corporeal punishment, or else for hope of worldly promotion.
And in the treating of this part, I remember that I have made the nobility both of England and Scotland inferior to brute beasts, for they do to women that which no male amongst the common sort of beasts can be proved to do to their female: that is, they reverence them, and quake at their presence; they obey their commandments, and that against God. Wherefore I judge them not only subjects to women, but slaves of Satan, and servants of iniquity.
He's the Jeremiah Wright of Scotland. Not gonna lay off!
Particularly because much of Candy's antiCatholicism comes from such roots.
GINGER
The Forefathers in Catholic history are not so great either, burning folks at the stake for not following the catholic religion. Not saying the man is or was a saint. I so can not say that about him. However, I am not saying bad things about them. This blog is not about religion or who was so great and who was so bad, I thought we were to be talking about Ms. Candy.
This blog is not about religion, but the subject is not avoided either. I don't think we can discuss the Braer Chronicles without mentioning religion.
It is a fairly unmoderated discussion forum.
My bad...Ginger challenged/jumped you for presenting Mr. Knox in a bad light. Either way, she was then challenged to give her reasoning as to why she is so enamored of him. She really doesn't have to do that, any more than anyone needs to say why they admire Billy Graham, the Pope, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, or the Easter Bunny.
Renee, on the sidebar you can sub to the comments feed.
Or you can check the box under the comment text you type to be notified of follow up comments.
How can you not like the pope?
Does anybody know what movie Candy was showing in the Meez Praise room this past weekend?
I have no beef except with the dude who chimes in about 'lack of submissive wives' and mentions their nether region, but....basically is just hanging out with a bunch of women. Only because....I'm sure than would be frowned upon by him in the reverse situation of his WIFE hangin' around a bunch of guys on the web.
I simply googled Vbacwarrior cuz she out to realize that folks can see yer blog if they do that, unless it's invite only, which mine is.
Seriously, as with anything; if you don't want to be searched by curious minds and FOUND, then...ya know. Make a new handle. Anne
That should say 'ought', not OUT.
Anne,
What is the world are you talking about? I don't care if people know about my blog. You're MORE than welcome to visit it by clicking "homepage" next to my name.
I'm NOT a male. I'm very much female :)
Becky: I NEED COFFEE. Got you all tossed up with the dude who commented on submission and such (he came in as 'Becky's husband' but her logo was a farm, I think.) Anyway....Yep. I'm havin' a one card short of a full deck day. Feels kinda good, actually! ROFL!!!
The man who was in here last weekend under "Becky" was my husband :)
Becky,
i left this question for you on the old post, perhaps you didn't see it and it's gone now.
Copying it here in hopes that you can illuminate this for me:
Becky,
I'm interested to know how you feel this scripture applies to marriage
"Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." ( Eph 21)
Do you feel that the requirement for obedience to your husband would include acting in such a way as would violate your conscience?
Just curious how you join up the dots here.
I don't recall Ginger being challenged.. I do recall someone asking her out of curiousity why she liked Knox. Asking opinion is not challenging someone. Finding out what makes people tick, why they like things, why thy don't.. it's all about getting to know someone.
Clare,
I'll have to ask my husband. My feeling (without a word study) is that the word has different meanings in the Greek and Hebrew. My Bible (ASV) actually uses the word "subjection".
As far as "violating my conscience", I believe that the Lord made my husband my head and he is ultimately the one who will answer to the Lord should I be asked to do something that "violates my conscience".
Also, in answer to your previous (now deleted) comment that from my blog I seemed "independent", well, perhaps it's just my writing style. Perhaps it's because birth is something I'm passionate about. I have a B.A. in literature and creative writing, so maybe that has something to do with it, as well.
Cool, haloscan.
I, too, asked my husband what he thought I should do in regards to voting when all this started earlier in the weekend.
His response? "You're asking me? When did you stop paying attention?"
The dumbfounded look on his face was way more telling than the words he said.
As far as "violating my conscience", I believe that the Lord made my husband my head and he is ultimately the one who will answer to the Lord should I be asked to do something that "violates my conscience".
Sorry, but "my husband made me do it" is no more a satisfactory excuse than "the Devil made me do it," or "a big boy did it and ran away."
You are, as far as I can tell, a fully-functional adult human being, with no obvious mental, physical or emotional defects. Therefore, you are responsible for your own actions, and the correct response to your husband making you act against your conscience or the law is, after a sufficient period of prayer and reflection, a resounding "no, shan't."
So why did women fight for our right to vote if we were going to just ask our husbands who to vote for. It is a slap in the face to all the women who made sure that we had a say in how our country was ran.
My husband and I do not have the exact same political beliefs. If I ever asked him to vote for he would be searching the house for the pod this new person came out of.
Nicole, the majority of people who want to let their husband's do the thinking for them would have preferred that women not even gain the right to vote in the first place. Those damn uppity feminists of the early 20th century (and earlier, actually) just overstepped their bounds by demanding they be treated equally as citizens of the United States.
As for other countries, I don't know their histories with women voters, but it has already been mentioned that women died for the right to vote in England (??? I think; since the comments are gone I can't double check that), so I would imagine they, too, take the privilege, right and responsibility seriously - but they are sure to have people just like we do in the US who, for whatever reason, think the uppity women are overstepping their bounds by making a decision.
I don't like either candidate, for various reasons. This is what we've come down to: a country so disgusted with their choice last time, that even a man who served 176 (?) days in the senate looks like a good deal, or a woman veep on the opponent's side because..... she is a woman? Had McCain picked the most qualified person to be his veep, he would not have the 'ooh!' factor. Obie (Obama) just doesn't stay true to what has been uttered by him in the past.
Hubs would like us to vote the same, but even he's confused and in no way do I think a wife has to divulge who she votes for .... that's why it's a private POLLING BOOTH.
Let's see: BIDEOBIE (Biden, Obama): I like two men in office; kinda nice. Not sure Obama will listen to Biden much. Michelle Obama is unpredictable with her mouth. Plus, she's got all Jackie O's outfits. Kinda smug. Her hand will be running the country. She is only PROUD of our country now, cuz HONEY IS IN THE LEAD.
McPalinCain: The dude was like my dad. Hey! They want a woman? Hehehehe...we've got the WHITE HOUSE NOW!!! Hehehehehehe (this is the man who wants to head our country).
Here's my dilemma: VOTE DEMOCRAT AND CALL A JIHAD SUICIDE BOMBER "NEIGHBOR"; VOTE REPUBLICAN and see cost of living go even higher and the paycheck remain pathetic.
The choices suck, frankly.
And, for any brits out there: this is one AMERICAN who does not get the stupid HOLLYWOOD involvement. HOLLYWOOD is made up of many narcissistic people.
It's eenie, meenie, miney, mo at this point.
"You are, as far as I can tell, a fully-functional adult human being, with no obvious mental, physical or emotional defects"
Well, according to some of the comments on my blog, I am in *serious* need of psychological help ;)
As far as "violating my conscience", I believe that the Lord made my husband my head and he is ultimately the one who will answer to the Lord should I be asked to do something that "violates my conscience".
It appears, Becky, we have VERY different definitions of love, as well as differing views on the role of sex in marriage and virginity.
Love ALWAYS wants the good of the other. If you love your husband, you would not have him answer for YOUR sin. What a cop-out.
We are NEVER bound to obedience in sin. In fact, the Bible is FULL of conscientious objectors, as it were, of men and women who refused to obey authorities and leaders who wanted them to sin.
Isn't that why Daniel was thrown in the lion's den? Wasn't that why Joseph was thrown in prison? And wasn't that why Christians were martyred in the Colliseum - they refused to obey the emporer and
And, may I just say about Obama - for being the man of "CHANGE!" he sure did pick the same ol' same ol' white guy entrenched in DC for a running mate.
Would it be bad if i just voted for the Hamburgler? At least I can peg his agenda.
As for other countries, I don't know their histories with women voters, but it has already been mentioned that women died for the right to vote in England (??? I think; since the comments are gone I can't double check that), so I would imagine they, too, take the privilege, right and responsibility seriously - but they are sure to have people just like we do in the US who, for whatever reason, think the uppity women are overstepping their bounds by making a decision.
I was referring to the Chartists and the Peterloo massacre - the gender of those killed is not specified in the sources I've been able to pull up, but yes, one woman, Emily Davison, died after being trampled by the King's horse at the Epsom Derby - her motives are unclear, but she was carrying a Women's Social and Political Union flag, and it is believed that she was trying to attach it to the horse.
I take my right to vote seriously (I've never missed a single local or national election since I was able to vote), and I've even been known to leave a bunch of flowers by the statue of Emmeline Pankhurst by the Houses of Parliament.
Where in the Bible does it say that I should object if my husband, my head, tells me to do something that I "shouldn't"?
I do love my husband and that's why I submit to him. I do love the Lord, and that is why I submit to him by submitting to my husband.
"But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything." (Eph 5:24)
EVERYTHING? Did I see that word there? I do know how to read. My spelling is pretty good. Yes, I *must* have read that word correctly.
Everything. What does that leave out? Nothing. It doesn't say everything but _______.
I am not sure what version of the bible you are reading but my bible does not say that you should submit to your husband in Everything. It only says that the wife should be submissive to her husband. I can be submissive while still having my own thoughts and feelings on things. In all honesty if my husband asked that I vote for a specific person I would feel that he did not trust my judgment and would have to reevaluate his feelings for me.
Where in the Bible does it say that I should object if my husband, my head, tells me to do something that I "shouldn't"?
Oh, I don't know, the shining example of those who went before you, into the lion's den or the fiery furnace, to avoid doing something that was against God?
Ok I found the verse you are referring to it says that the wife should be subject to the husband just as the church is subject to the Christ. IMO that is stating that if I do something wrong then I have to answer to my husband and will make him look bad since he is the head of the household just as if the church did something wrong they would have to answer to Christ and would make Christ look bad to non believers. I am not sure how a private vote would make my husband look bad.
sorry I hit publish before I was finished. THe key term here is subject not in submission.
Becky, I fear my response is useless because we seem to see and define things SO differently. Without defining our terms beforehand, I'm afraid you might misunderstand.
Seperately, was my previous comment about submission in another post, which is deleted now.
However, regarding the verse you quoted:
Let's put a little more context:
Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Wives and Husbands
22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything...32This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
Ephesians 5:21-24, 32-33
There is another verse, that also tells us how to do everything:
17And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
Clearly, St. Paul says everyone submits FIRSTLY to the Lord, then women to their husbands. In fact, the letter to the Colossians continues:
8Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.
19Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.
20Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. Col. 3:18-20
One cannot sin in the name of Christ Jesus. One cannot sin in reverence to Christ.
"I can be submissive while still having my own thoughts and feelings on things."
As can I. I *do* have my own thoughts and feelings. If you've visited my blog then it's very apparent. I don't think anyone could successfully argue that those feelings are the feelings of a man.
I'm not a mindless drone, as many of you must think. We recently moved and my thoughts about our new house were taken into consideration by my husband. He showed me several houses that I absolutely hated and he was fine with that (we ended up in a house I L-O-V-E!)
I choose my clothes, my shampoo, the time I go to sleep and wake (well, no, actually my children help me there!), we agreed together before we were married that I would stay home to care for the children and the home. My husband doesn't *force* me to do anything. I happily submit to his God-given authority over me.
I'm not stupid. I'm a college-educated woman.
Remember, the very first time a woman(Eve) made a decision without consulting a man (Adam), it had disastrous effects!
That last statement though screams that you think a women can not make a decision without consulting a man first lest face dire results. I make plenty of decisions without my husband and have never had the world fall apart around me. I am not sure how choosing a house and choosing the leader of our nation even compare. It is apples and oranges.
subbing
Just curious...what is the advantage of haloscan over the standard commenting format? I actually prefer the old way, but that's just me.
Well, the world has not crumbled nor been destroyed and my life is still pretty darn good - after eleven years of not consulting my husband for everything.
I'd say the world won't end when a woman thinks for herself, and acts upon those thoughts without consulting her husband.
But, what do I know? I'm a heathen who doesn't adhere to the idea that the bible is literal. I suppose I could be wrong. But, in the year 2000, my husband and I cast opposing votes in the presidential election. The world did not come crumbling down. Nor did our marriage or our relationship, so I may be onto something too.
A question! What will happen next year when the 8 year old is smarter than Candy? Who is going to teach whom?
A lurker observing.
Why does everyone like haloscan? What I don't like is I can't read the comments in my email. (Just discovered that.)
I did make a comment in the other thread that I posted just before they got deleted, so I'll post it here again:
Erik seems downright lazy to me, and I think Candy tries her darnedest to remain "joyful" in spite of his irresponsibility and laziness. I suspect the excessive bragging she does about her "hot hubby" is a cover up for her true feelings. She's actually seething inside, and all the nastiness we see directed toward Catholics and other dissenters really stems from the loathing she has for own husband.
Becky,
Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden - it was not EVE's deciding to eat the fruit that was the disaster for humanity. It was ADAM'S choice that caused original sin, and because of ADAM that we die.
Gen. 3:17- 19
St. Paul tells us,
12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned
Romans 5:12
The effects of Eve eating the fruit were limited to herself (and women); mainly, pain in childbearing.
The effects of Adam sinning was death:
21For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 1 Corinthians 15:21-22
Many women don't have pain in (unmedicated) birth. How did we escape that curse then?
Mandy,
I have haloscan on my blog, and it enables you to see IP's for commenters, edit comments, ban, etc.
You also get nifty charts and widgets. It's a much more comprehensive management program. I'm guessing it's an IP thing, since there doesn't seem to be much banning around here.
Click the button under the comments to get comments in your email.
Really Becky? That's the only response you have to my comment, that not every woman experiences the same degree of pain in childbirth?
Huh. I may have overestimated you.
Are you just randomly commenting on that, or do you have a broader point to make in the context of Adam, Eve, original sin, death, and what the word "man" means in the Scriptures I quoted?
Not all people react in the same way to the same experience. I had to be knocked out to have my wisdom teeth pulled and afterwards, I had major problems with infection, abscesses and allergic reactions, while my sister was wide awake and had no problems. I broke two ribs and hardly noticed it; it was inconvenient and irritating. My husband broke three ribs and couldn't move for more than a week.
My sister gave birth vaginally to two babies. One labor was all of five hours, and one was all of three. While my cousin, who gave birth to her second child the same month my sister had her first, spent 43 hours in labor.
Why do some women not have pain? Because. Just, because.
Everyone is different and there doesn't need to be a divine reason for it. It is the way we are made.
If you're going to ask that question, you may as well ask why one person gets cancer when another doesn't.
I'm busy this evening. I have a 1yo and 3yo. I'll be back tonight.
Tia,
I hear you! I actually ENJOYED my root canals. There was no pain AT ALL (novocaine is a wonderful drug) and I got to relax by myself for a couple of hours with my feet up.
And afterword, the relief from the excruciating pain of the abcessed tooth was soooo gooood!
All of my labors were different too. The only unifying thing about them is that my water doesn't break.
Are you ready for some football?
I believe I've made mention of the fact that I am a Cheesehead before. If not, I am :-) (I have no skill with the clowns, folks).
I will be parking my behind in front of the television in 15 minutes for the first Monday Night Football game of the season...Packers vs Vikings...serious rivals. Our first regular season game...our first regular season game post Brett Favre.
I hope nothing happens the comments (wink, wink, note oozing sarcasm) so I can read everything tomorrow.
I am extremely interested in what Becky has to say.
Crap. Haloscan does the whole automatic thing with smilies...I will have to do something about that and learn to do clowns, because I cannot abide by those damn smileys!
I apparently can't spell either, but for now, I'll just chalk it all up to football brain and maybe examine the realities at a later date.
Ok, I really am outta' here.
Sorry to keep on at you here Becky, and I understand that you probably have a few questions coming at you at once. But when you have a moment I'd love to have your thoughts on my earlier question:
Becky,
I'm interested to know how you feel this scripture applies to marriage
"Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." ( Eph 21)
Clare,
She did answer you.
Clare, I'll have to ask my husband. My feeling (without a word study) is that the word has different meanings in the Greek and Hebrew. My Bible (ASV) actually uses the word "subjection". As far as "violating my conscience", I believe that the Lord made my husband my head and he is ultimately the one who will answer to the Lord should I be asked to do something that "violates my conscience".
She has to ask her husband how she interprets that verse.
There's nothing inherently wrong with asking someone's opinion on a matter, but I found her answer hysterically ironic.
Am I the only one who laughs hysterically at irony?
Becky,
I'm interested to know how you feel this scripture applies to marriage
"Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." ( Eph 21)
If I may comment on that, it means just what it said. BUT I am only in control of myself, not someone and only have to answer for myself. The verse doesn't say submit to each other only if the other person does it first. I am to submit REGARDLESS of whether he submits to me or not. I am to submit out of reverence for Christ, because I love my Lord. If he chooses not to live up to his end of the bargin, he will have to answer for that. And regardless, God will take care of all my needs.
Ok, thanks, I missed that skimming through the comments.
I'll await husbands answer then.
crumbs.
I also remember Becky saying something in the lost comments about it not mattering if the husband is nice or nasty, wise or foolish ( I'm not quoting her directly but I think that was the gist) the issue for the Godly woman is to submit to his authority, whether his rule is benign or not.
Wow. The strange places that theology can take us. In a toss up between the accumulated wisdom of two millenia of gifted and saintly theologians of the church and Beckys husband?
I'll take the Pope thanks.
No disrespect meant Beckys husband.
Reason 1004 for being a Catholic.
As my dad says (*insert Irish accent*)
" I'm waiting to hear what the Pope has to say...sure isn't that what we pay him for"
The bible also says that your husband should love you as Christ loves the Church. Christ loves me enough to give me free will to make my own decisions should my husband not do the same thing. I submit to my husband out of love and respect. i could not respect someone who demanded that I follow him in everything he believes. My husband is as far right as you can get and I am more in the middle. He understands that differences is what makes me unique and loves me for it enough to let me express it in the way I vote.
New schedule up for Candy. I see that she is growing sensitive to all our accusations of no play time for her children. They now get to play for two teensy blogs of time a day.
Yes, I noticed that she left more time for play.
I like how she says, "I love my Home Management Binder so much!" and then it links for you to buy it.
Candy may not be the brightest light bulb in the chandelier but she sure can "snow" people......
And then they figure her out.....
Yes, I noticed that she left more time for play.
I like how she says, "I love my Home Management Binder so much!" and then it links for you to buy it.
Candy may not be the brightest light bulb in the chandelier but she sure can "snow" people......
And then they figure her out.....
Yes, I noticed that she left more time for play.
I like how she says, "I love my Home Management Binder so much!" and then it links for you to buy it.
Candy may not be the brightest light bulb in the chandelier but she sure can "snow" people......
And then they figure her out.....
But sometimes NOT before buying her hmb. I never did. Patricia (*a commentor on this latest post) admits to Candy that, whilst having 4 young children and nursing a 4 month old, she can't seem to swing the Emergency 3 Week Plan. PATRICIA..... Nurse the baby, play with the kids. When hubs is home: take a bath; go for a walk BY YOURSELF...... and if he's complaining: hand him the vacuum cleaner. Candy only shows her home in photos once in a while because she NEEDS TIME TO CLEAN IT FOR THE PHOTOS. To play pretend, Patricia.
candy is evil
that is all
I noticed a commentor posted a "block" schedule of her HMB this weekend. Lo and behold, Ms. Candy is now blocking her time.. with NO credit to the original person who did it! Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!!!!
Something is not right here. She is not getting any housework done. This is her master and she blocks out no time for baking, working on HMB, laundry, or any daily or weekly cleaning. Hmmmmm.
I put my information about my schedule on there, then it dawned on me that she probably wouldn't like to see my schedule. It's hyperscheduled due to my two son's special needs (autism, SPD, speech issues, etc) that get lots of visits with therapists, doctors, and things we have to do with them at home. So, my cleaning part is pitiful. It's often done after the kids go to bed, or, eek, gasp, guffaw.... my DH helps with the cleaning. We survive and thrive with the challenges God has allowed into our family. And since we are all thriving, our house is far less important.
Why does she "make bed and tidy room" first thing in the morning? Didn't she tidy up the house at night before going to bed? How does her bedroom get messy while she's asleep?
Something is not right here. She is not getting any housework done. This is her master and she blocks out no time for baking, working on HMB, laundry, or any daily or weekly cleaning. Hmmmmm.
Ha! She answered you, even though she doesn't read here:
As for the big stuff - I do a bit each day, if possible. I try to make bread on Tuesdays or Thursdays, during my "meal and food preps" time. If I don't have the time to make the bread and such, then I do it on Saturdays.
As for cleaning, I do a cleaning block each day, before homeschool starts. As for serious projects and such, I try to do those on Thursdays, but if no time, then on Saturdays.
Candy
OK one more thing and I have to get to work. Her kids bathe 3x a week. I have kids and kids stink. They play outside, they get dirty, they run, they sweat. I can't imagine not requiring my kids bathe daily. Yuck!
I'm sorry I didn't get back last night. I didn't get a chance to ask my husband for his thoughts on Eph 5:21. We're currently trying to figure out what the Bible says we should do about a situation with our neighbor.
I know it's not what you want to hear (er, read?) but I honestly have no idea what the verse means. You were pressing me to give my thoughts, and those are my thoughts. I don't know. I've never claimed to know everything or to be a Bible expert.
I do know that Christ gave up His life and His rights so that I might enter Heaven one day. I believe that as a Christian, I am called to do the same. My life is not my own. I serve Christ through serving my family. I wipe butts and wash feet for the Lord :)
Something is still off. She is losing her touch. I remember reading in the past of her chedule and thinking' "day the girl sleeps in a lot" The kids seem to go to bed at a decent hour and yet she sleeps in and I'm sure they have to stay "bedridden" til she gets up. A Proverbs 31 Woman gets up with the birds and goes to sleep late in the evening. I think Candy may be getting far to into the Meesing and is "hungover" so to speek in the morning. Her schedul used to be perfect and she used to fit it all in to her day now she doesn't. It's just very interesting to me that since Meezing she has really let other things go and it's a shame. I think she is changing her message so drastically that I don't give her another 6 months on this road. I hope her friends are calling her out on it even if she doesn't post the messages I sure hope she is reading them. One day after sleeping in and not getting much done she will realize her priorities have changed. Maybe if she did some post on other religions such as Muslim and the JW or whatever she maybe able to focus on "her" calling instead of pushing people away from the Message entirely. I still don't by this schedule at all. It's just a front to look as if she is still putting her kids, house and duties in the top 5. I say this only for those that read here and are still unsure of her and what it is she is actually accomplishing. Use her for nothing more than motivation at this point. And even then looks like your gonna have to find that motivation somewhere else really. Her schedule right now is an absolute fraud in my opinion a fraud.
Oh I agree, there's no way she does everything on there. She forgot to show her huge block of "Meez Time."
If her husband is like mine, she tidies up the bedroom by putting his strewn clothing in the hamper. She doesn't mention when hubs gets up, but once she mentioned he wanted the whole crew up earlier than usual, to spend time with them. She went on to say how happy the kids were to 'race' her to being awake in the mornings. Now she puts making his lunch in the afternoon slot. Chick has no clue we remember this.
As for stinky kids: HER KIDS DO NOT GET OUT.. EXCEPT with WATCHINGHAWKMOTHER to the park. Maybe twice a week. She's a self-confessed hermit. Hermits do not make FUN parents. Believe me. She probably suffers from social anxiety, as well. Agraphobia,maybe.
IN any case, she copied Susan Godfrey's "block" idea, but Susan graciously pointed that out with an LOL. I wouldn't be so charitable. Candy could have left a message (God forbid) under Susan's original post, thanking her for the inspiration....GOD FORBID). Susan went on and on about her 'newly revised' home management folder plans, cuz she knows Candy is NOT going to mention anyone else or their 'wise ways' so long as she draws breath.
The link to her HMB is predictable and disgusting.
Becky, I find it interesting that you quoted Eph. 5:24, but then say you have NO IDEA what Eph. 5:21 means. They are printed right together, and go together!
I am curious how you study the Scriptures. Do you just study individual verses here and there, or do you read the entire context?
I ask, because I know several people who study verses by "keyword", and then come to an inaccurate understanding of what the writer was trying to convey or what God's Word actually says.
Remember, these things are actually letters - not just chapters and verses, which were added later. Try reading the whole letter through.
As for the schedule.
My children do not have baths everyday. (Imagine the utility bills!) They have baths at least once a week minimum, and also when they need them. My boys age 9 and 10 need them a lot. The 4 yo girl - not so much. I hose the baby off in the sink after lunch, but he gets a "real bath" too.
I was simply amazed that she lets her 2 yo play with Legos. My vacuum would explode if I tried that.
Does anyone think it's weird that her two youngest are scheduled to WAIT? Why would she not let them play?
I think she's finally getting comment savvy, asking readers to share their thoughts. Someone's been reading about how to increase blog traffic!
Although disabling her feed doesn't make following her blog EASY.
About the baths, my niece and nephew only take baths every other day, and they play outside a lot.
I can see some value in teaching the younger children patience, and having to wait, but... seriously? every day? Let them play. Give them puzzles. sigh.
Did you guys see this comment:
Do you have a specific time for Meez...like after the kiddos are asleep? My hubby doesn't wish to download javascript, so I cannot even do this! :o/
But....wondering how much time the meez takes up? Thanks.
Eileen | 09.09.08 - 7:51 am | #
haha!
And I have just one more thing I noticed. We have lived in many small homes. When you have lots of people, you quickly learn that staggering the hot water needs is a must!
Yet, her schedule says:
Dinner
Bath or Showers for kids
Tidy up house and shower
Empty dishwasher (I'm assuming she RAN the dishwasher during "table chore" time? My DW takes 50 minutes to run.)
How does her hot water heater handle that load? Even if the babies take their bath together, that's still at least 1 shower, 1 bath, and 1 DW cycle running at the same time. No word when Wonderhubbee showers.
(And since I'm nitpicking, why does she shower everyday, anyway? She is naturally neat and clean, her sweat doesn't stink, and it's BAD for long hair to wash it every day)
Remember when she posted pics of her DW and claimed she ran it twice a day (I do, because I couldn't figure out HOW she made so many dirty dishes to need 2x a day. I run mine once a day and we have 8 people here 24/7! I do my pots and pans by hand though, maybe that's why - they are too big to fit in the dishwasher.)
No mention of THAT on the schedule!
This is what Candy commented on Susan Godfrey's blog (notice how she made it look like she hadn't visited Susan's blog in awhile - trying to make it apprear as though she didn't copy her time blocks - what a crock!)
prayzgod said...
Sheesh girl! I miss a few days of reading your blog, and look at all I missed! Love your binder, the kids' folders, etc. Your daily schedule has a lot of similarities to mine. "Great minds think alike" LOL.
I just put up my schedule on my blog today.
4:45 PM
I think a lot of her readers are going to wonder about computer time. It pops up on mommyblogs all over the net, all the time!
She has two little slivers for "checking comments" even though comments are often updated throughout the day.
And another tiny sliver for "computer time".
Yet she plays and posts HOURS and HOURS of sermons etc. on her blog. I asked her in a Meez room once, and she didn't know the name of the preacher or what church he had, because she didn't preview the video.
So I guess by linking to people she *hopes* are good teachers, without actually watching them first, she saves some time. But she has to be IN the room watching them during prayzpartays and church, right? She had time to set up 4 Meez rooms, didn't she?
Then again, when all you do is recycle the same articles over and over and over again, it doesn't take much time to write a post.
I always pretty much guessed many of her long, indepth posts were a lot of copying and pasting, and of course, recycling.
Now that I've been doing a blog of my own, I know that's what she does. There is no way a homeschooling, wunderwoman mother of four has time to do the research, and thought process, for some of those articles she writes. Much less for as many as she puts up. If she is honestly taking the time to do thoroughly create those posts, I will change my stance on it only taking minutes to post/check comments/whatever and join the crowd that says she neglects her home and family for the sake of her blog.
I'm only doing the e book stuff, and a single entry takes half a day between reading, understanding, referring to notes, confirming references / past remarks, and typing out my own commentary. And, I am not even doing any research on it. It's all my thoughts and regurgitating the e book.
Someone can spend what seems to be inordinate amounts of time on the Internet between blog posts and reading and commenting when in actuality, it is all of a half hour or so throughout the day.
But, when posts on the scale that some of hers are on appear, there is either recycling, copying & pasting, or neglect of other responsibilities.
Remember when she posted pics of her DW and claimed she ran it twice a day (I do, because I couldn't figure out HOW she made so many dirty dishes to need 2x a day. I run mine once a day and we have 8 people here 24/7! I do my pots and pans by hand though, maybe that's why - they are too big to fit in the dishwasher.)
No mention of THAT on the schedule!
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especially when you see how she 'loads' it....she just piles things all up on top of each other every which way.....how IS she dirtying enough to run two loads?? I had four kids as well...and even then I had about a load a day and I load mine much more sparsely( is that a word??LOL) than hers....
Oh yes! I thought the same thing with the dishwasher! I have 5 in my family and I'm lucky if I run it once a day. The kids pick A glass and use it all day. I refuse to wash one for water, milk, juice, kool-aid. When they were sippy cup drinkers, I rinsed them between meals and put to the back of the countertop for the next meal. I assumed everyone did this. Apparently she doesn't. Guess she needs to put that in her HMB block time. I'm surprised her dishes come out clean with the way she piles things in there. I'm even more surprised she does not make the kiddos do "sink chores".
I spend from about 8pm-11 pm online most weeknights. Some of that time is working (I write for several websites, for pay), some is blogging, some is Meezing.
It does take time!
Hubs puts the kids to bed, then either hangs out on the couch next to me and watches TV or goes to bed. He's working 66 hours a week this month so he pretty much comes home, eats, then sleeps.
Oh yeah, we do that too, use the same glass all day. I bought a set of Ikea plastic cups, because it is a set of 6 in 6 different colors, so we can tell them apart.
it's really hard to find 6 DIFFERENT colors, LOL!
Milehi, my dishwasher heats its own water, so I can run it and not effect our bathing water. It is a newer model, though.
Candy has posted a block schedule previously, so I know she didn't copy it from Susan. She probably got the idea of reposting it at this time from her. I remember her posting pictures of how to make laundry detergent and kombucha right after Stephanie/Mountain Mama posted them on her blog.
I remembre the first block time schedule. Pretty recent I think. There DID seem to be some or conection to Susan there. I don't remember her mentioning Susan and frankly Susan is so muchbigger (a person) than Candy that Susan doesn't care and I'm sure Candy knows that and uses it to her advantage.
My computer is in the livingroom so I can check it all day long here and there not a problem. The problem I have with Candy on this issue is that she's pretentious (sp). That pretty much sums her up in all areas anymore actually or at least what she used to be. Now I just don't know what is going on with her.
I don't give a crap about her schedule being fake or her bread being amazing or that she makes kumbacha. I care that she is preaching and teaching hate and putting God's name on it. Had she done other articles on other religions or even problems in and of the world it would be different...very very different.
Pretentious
JustMe, she does have a post about JW on her sidebar (although, it doesn't actually SAY much of anything except that two verses are different in the NWT and KJV)
She also posts a very bland nothingness post about the Emergent Church movement. She says it is an example of the end times falling away, but doesn't say WHY or actually give any background, definitions, or anything.
She's probably waiting for Chick to write something up so she can copy and paste.
Rereading her JW post - I have spoken and met with quite a few JW's in many different states. I'm not sure she actually got into those Scriptures with them. The description of how "she showed them this verse, than that verse", as though they saw how wrong they were... just doesn't match up to my experiences with JW or other missionaries, for that matter.
Except I know she's leaving out 90% of the interaction.
I don't think she's going to answer Eileen's comment. She'll leave it hanging. Tough to answer and realize you messed up the way you projected your day.
Well, she cannot answer Eileen's comment or have other comments suddenly apear on her blog.. cause that would mean she was checking comments when it was not in her block time LOL
Running that tight ship, ya know!
It's her blog and she can write about whatever she wants, but it would be nice to see the more human side of her - as a mom and a wife and a friend. Not just cooking, cleaning, chore charts and MEEZE.
I have seen the articles on her side bar and you are so right they are...nothingless articles and shabby at best. It's like some kind of permission the herself to attack one church and one people. Make any sense?
I'll be updating the blogroll again. Give me a shout out and a link if you are a regular here (Candyland Citizen) and you want to be on it.
You can put me on it, Greek. Link should show up in the comment signature.
This is how she will answer Eileen, if she does:
On a tipycal day, I am abel to:
* type up my to-do list for the day
* type up 2 blog entries
* reaserch and type 1 artical about the Catholock church being the church of Satin
* change my Meez charectar's clothes
* play 5 games on Meez to erne coinz
* plan the videos for my next Meez prayzgod partie
This only takes me about 10-15 minutes, I thank the good Lord that I have a high eye-cue and type vary fast, therefore I am abel to get ALOT done in a shorter amount of time than most people.
I'm telling you...self destruction is imminent.
I'm telling you...self destruction is imminent.
Agreed...and waiting with 'bated breath...ROFL!!!!
Hi ladies: loving this blog - and had a few add in's:
Milehimama:
Isn't Hamburgerlar already in office under the guise of Dick Cheney?
Becky:
Your example of not being responsible for your actions didn't work well with Adam in the beginning.
Sweeping: I have always felt that there is an underlying anger towards 'hot hubby' and his demented thinking. And notice too that it is the majority of his family that is Catholic that she's been trying to 'save' with her screeds (I love this word for her rants, btw).
I was struck by how much the block schedule resembles the way (Catholic writer- gasp!) Holly Pierlot does it in her book "Mother's Rule of Life." If Candy only knew that a Catholic homeschooling mother has it THAT together and has a book published by a real publisher to boot. :)
Milehi- you'll appreciate this. I have the same Ikea plastic cups (love them!) and one day last year, an extra orange one appeared. I have yet to figure out where it came from.
I started that book a couple of weeks ago, and am slowly working through it.
I NEEDED Holly's book about 8 years ago, though! Slowly getting my act together... LOL
That happens around here, too, Angie, especially with silverware. A random fork that doesn't match our other ones will just show up in the drawer one day!
I think the house gremlins take the socks from the dryer and use alchemy to make non-matching spoons. It's the best explanation I can come up with for the strangeness that happens when we're all sleeping.
I agree that she has nothing to much to say about JWs and emergent church because she doesn't have Jack Chick & Co to copy. A while back, VTC did a post where they compared Candy articles to articles on Jesus Is Lord, and several of them were almost word for word.
She always goes on and on about her research, but most of her stuff is just plagerism.
Milehi- are you loving that book? I feel like it literally saved my life. I had four kids at the time, the youngest being a baby, could not say no to anyone and felt like I was taking on the world. That book got my priorities in order, and now I have five kids and feel much more at peace than I have in years. BTW, I'm glad I'm not the only one that has random objects materialize in their house. ;)
I also agree with those who say Candy's self-destruction is imminent. I think anytime you get too wrapped up in "self," it's just going to come back and bite you in the end. You can tell with her strange blogging habits as of late (the constant meez worship, the constant insertion of anti-Catholic teachings where they don't even make sense, using topics discussed here as springboards for her writing topics in order to defend herself) that she is cracking. I could be wrong, but that's how it appears to me.
When that blog of hers shuts down, I am going to throw a party.
She always goes on and on about her research, but most of her stuff is just plagerism.
If it's not outright plagiarism, it's throw-up. (regurgitated material)
If and when Candy self destructs, I will feel very badly for her. I really will. She could have had a ton of good solid ladies for friends. She just choose not to. Not having friends is sad and even worse I assume if you self destruct.
If and when Candy self destructs, I will feel very badly for her. I really will. She could have had a ton of good solid ladies for friends. She just choose not to. Not having friends is sad and even worse I assume if you self destruct.
I agree. The Internet has opened an entirely different world up for people who are not social and/or people who have no close friends or relatives. It has allowed people from everywhere and anywhere to become friends, and offer support. It has created communities within communities, with members from all over the planet. And, from what I've seen, the Christian mother/homemaker community is big, and pretty involved. She could have become a part of it and made some real friends and created a real support system. Instead, she chose to alienate everyone she possibly could.
That speaks of fear to me. Fear to let anyone in; fear of letting anyone get close or really know you; fear of trusting anyone.
Not that it is necessary for anyone to make friends through the Internet, it just seems like a bonus for people with so much in common.
And it just struck me....she doesn't have any real-life friends, sounds like cyber friends are her only hope. After that, she'll have nothin' left but wunderhubby. Maybe someday a few years after her internet demise (months? weeks?) there will emerge a newly divorced, atheist, ex-fundie Christian know-it-all mother of 4 in blogland....
I hope self-destruction is not imminent. I don't wish any harm to Candy or her family. I do want to see her influence lessened.
Ideally, I would love to see Candy turn towards God and fully cooperate with His graces, to know, love, and serve Him (as the Catechism says...)
Barring that, at least stop actively opposing God, and actively trying to rend the seamless garment of Christ (His Church).
I do see her blog as actively damaging the Christian community at large, btw, which is one of the reasons I post here. I probably wouldn't care so much if I didn't see how much harm was being done - if she had one or two readers that winked her way.
Sorry, didn't mean to go all religious on y'all. Can't help it sometimes.
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Wow, Haloscan hates clowns. Trying again...
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Dang. That stinks.
Okay, back to Becky. I looked at your explanation of "womb pods" - it's some kind of hands off birth monitoring device? Is that right?
I'm all in favor of anything that removes the Turkey Stuffing aspect of labor and delivery. Why do you oppose it?
Ideally, I would love to see Candy turn towards God and fully cooperate with His graces, to know, love, and serve Him
That would be awesome, just admitting you are wrong or have lied would be sufficient for me. Apologizing to the internet world she has been wrong about things such as Mensa or Eriks induction would be a great start, OR PROVE that it has happened. One or the other, kwim? It is ok, Candy! You will not loose readership, in fact due to honesty, you might gain more readers!
Why do you guys feel bad for her? So what if she self-destructs? It's called SELF destruction. She brought it upon HERSELF. I for one would not feel sorry for her. She has had many warnings. She is either too stubborn or too arrogant to heed any of it. So be it. If I could comfortably say she was too dumb - I might feel bad. But while I don't agree with the Mensa qualification crap, I do not think this woman is stupid. (A little slow maybe...) But hey. What comes around goes around. She deserves it.
Mandy,
I live in a bipolar world - half my family is afflicted, and the other half has post traumatic stress disorder because of it, LOL!
When I think of someone "self destructing" - that's the picture in my mind I have. A nuclear meltdown of self... I wouldn't wish that on anyone!
God calls us to love everyone - especially the unlovable.
On the other hand, a bit of a meltdown can be cathartic. Might be just what the doctor ordered... especially if it causes big changes in Candyland.
I guess if she's truly mentally ill - which is actually probable - then OK then I would feel bad.
SO to anyone who knows her personally reads this blog, would you plleeaassee commit her? Save the kids!!! (Incidentally, I do not feel bad for Andrea Yates, I feel bad for her kids.)
If she's NOT mentally ill, then NO I DO NOT FEEL BAD FOR HER. Why should I? Somebody give me a good reason and I'll consider it.
BTW I should have used the word "probable", not "possible". I do feel that there is a *possibility* that Candy could be mentally ill - but not that it's probable.
I'm with Milehi. When I think of Candy self-destructing, I think of that teenage girl who committed suicide after being bullied by her schoolmates.
We haven't invented a best friend for her, but I know she feels persecuted, because she's said so.
She has said she feels persecuted, but that is also her goal. She is persecuted, in her mind, because she is a follower of Christ; a "true" follower of Christ. How many times does she talk about being at "war" and earning "rewards" in heaven for defending God/Jesus/the bible/her beliefs? She may think she only has to say a prayer and be saved, but she is doing her damdest to rack up those heavenly rewards and personal glory once she gets to heaven.
So, as far as persecution goes, that is, at least in part, her goal. To suffer as Jesus did and, in her mind, for the same reasons.
The evil Catholicks were the first to persecute the true Christians, (never mind the Romans) and they are still doing it today along with all the heathens and 95% of those who "claim" to be Christians but aren't. Remember, only 5% of those who claim to be Christians truly are Christians, in Candyland anyway.
She's set herself up to be among the tiniest of percentage of people who know they know that they know they are saved; that makes her feel special, and that helps her personal belief that she is better than everyone else. She is a "true" Christian and she will suffer persecution for her faith.
So, if she goes off the deep end - which, by the way, I wouldn't wish on anyone - but, if she does, she will do it proudly. Her claims of persecution are, to her, badges of honor since she does everything in the name of God / Jesus.
How do you make a smiley that shows the spitting guffaw that happens between your lips when something is funny but you have liquid in your mouth and you try to keep your mouth closed....you know, the kind that ultimately causes wine/beer/soda splatter all your computer screen?
ANYWAY
Tia...lol....she WILL go down with pride for sure! Just like Jim Jones.
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Vapourised clown
Hi, this is Theresa.
I am going to give my best to make this comment non-offensive to all involved, particularly milehimama, as I am basically giving a comment to her blog.
Biden's remark is very ignorant. I've tried to verify it, and I do believe those are his words. If so, he seems to have a very poor understanding of "birth defects" and "developmental disabilities". Most of these are not treatable with stem cell research. They are *sometimes* a candidate for gene replacement therapy, but these are in their infancy (but something I support, if the person or parents of the child choose). For instance, Down syndrome is not treatable by stem cell therapy, nor is Tay-Sachs, or cystic fibrosis. The latter two have some hope for gene therapy, again, if someone chooses that.
I do have to take mhm to task a bit. Both adult-derived and embryonic stem cells have their benefits and detriments. Adult-derived are nice, because they aren't rejected, if harvested from the sick person. However, they are extremely difficult to harvest, as they are rare, and only exist in certain tissues. Therefore, they have only a limited therapeutic value, and only are great expense.
Before I go into embryonic stem cells, I would like to give you the disclaimer I always announce before I discuss this topic. If you believe that human personhood begins at conception, nothing I say will matter. And I'm good with that. We can discuss chimeras, identicals, IVF, and "siamese" twins at another time :)
Embryo-derived stem cells, as of current US research, are not an exact match for the donor. That is their one detriment. They are the only cells, however, that can indeed become any other cell in a person's body. They are pluripotent, which adult stem cells, and umbilical, are not.
However, because there is no federally funded embryonic stem cell research in the USA, we cannot possibly know the extent of em. stem cells, and ALL research shows that they are at least as beneficial, and more, than adult-derived, in helping spinal cord injury (no adult stem cells here) and other serious diseases like Parkinsons.
I guess this is more than my $0.02. And I do know that not everyone wants to be "fixed" of whatever they have. But I felt the need to correct the notion that adult stem cells are superior to embryonic in all cases, and that embryonic have no merit.
Well crap!! I can't make her recipe because I don't have 2 slices of Amazing Bread. Damnitall!!!!!
Theresa, I appreciate the comment, but why are you commenting HERE and not on my post?
I did not say that embryonic stem cells had no merit.
However:
Adult stem cells have been proven to be therapeutic. When I said that escr has not shown the benefits that adult stem cells have, I had this articlein mind.
Direct Reprogramming offers an ethical altrernative to escr.
Embryonic stem cells have problems that adult stem cells do not, such as embryonal carcinoma.
Just so's we're clear...when I said "self destruction is imminent" I was speaking specifically about the KTH blog and my prior prediction that she will one day announce that the Lord has commanded her to stop blogging and serve Him elsewhere.
I don't want anyone to think I was being glib (yes, I said glib...Tom Cruise didn't invent the word) about her mental health or anything. I might think she's gone off the deep end but I wish nothing bad on her and hope she pulls it together soon.
Shannon, I understood what you meant, and I agree. Her blog has gone in a very strange direction, and I don't know how she's going to sustain it without trudging through all the disagreements she stirs up. At some point, even Candy would have to get tired. I honestly don't see how she can run her blog with the extremely lengthy articles, sift through the comments to publish only the "acceptable" ones, run Meez worship sessions, and be a mother to four young children, let alone homeschool them. I call that burning the candle at both ends, and something will have to give at some point. I would hope it would be the anti-Catholic/anti-woman blog disguised behind the name "Keeping the Home."
Oh silly women! Don't you KNow how she does it all?? She has her HMB to tell her what to do. Well.. what to tell others to do!
1. She loves the disagreements. It makes her feel persecuted so therefore she MUST be doing things right!
2. Tired? She's wonder woman!
3. She recycles her posts... from diapers to recipes to her jack chick copy and paste! I'm sure she has folders and subfolders on her hard drive full of every post she has ever made so she can copy/paste! Click, click, DONE!
4. Meeze, she lives for meeze! It's her addiction. Isn't having an addiction like worshiping something?
5. Homeschool? Granted, I don't homeschool so I may be wrong.. but this is how it comes across to me: Her kids do "copy work". Are they LEARNING??? They read the bible. The memorize bible verses. That's fine.. but i really think a kid would like to read something interesting to THEM once in awhile. So.. they copy work, do a work sheet.. play with table toys and go to different "work stations" around the house. Her house is not full of toys like most homes. The mess is contained and limited. Not too easy to keep house like that.
6. The kids have chores. I'm sure they do a lot in that house. 7yr old is doing his own laundry.. they only bath every other day - and you can bet they reuse towels for a week! So.. a load of whites a week? She wears dresses and never sweats.. so i'm sure her clothes do not need to be washed after every single time she wears them. She has said before her kids sleep in their clothes.. eat breakfast and then shower and change.. so.. no night clothes to wash! She runs the dishwasher 2x a day... so few drying rags and washing rags.
7. She sets the kids up to do work sheets.. runs a load of laundry and puts supper in the crockpot. Have you seen her menus? Breakfast is cooked rice and milk with sugar?? EWW. Or oatmeal or toast and peanut butter. Lunch is usually sandwiches and carrot sticks. They don't believe in between meal snacks. So I"m sure they don't get between meal drinks. That alone cuts down on your time and dishes. Her kids don't go out.. they don't have friends.. they are constantly scheduled.. lots of free time for her. Supper, bed.. more computer time!
I can see her and wunderhubby glued to the computers sitting side by side and sending IMs to each other! Talk about dysfunctional.
I knew a girl like Candy online. She was PERFECT. Her life, her kids, her home was immaculate.. she had recipes that everyone loved and begged for! We later discovered she cleaned so much and tried to make her HOME perfect because her LIFE wasn't. Her husband was running around and she tried to be perfect.. to cover up/hide imperfections. It eventually came out they got divorced and I felt so sorry for her. Her husband was demeaning and demanding. Her coping mechanism was to keep a tip-top ship! Her super woman living didn't save her marriage... sometim
Rachel,
Have you been talking to the Meezers? One night my hubs made a Meez and came into the room. I thought it was hilarious - I am happily dysfunctional, LOL!
Then again, I doubt anyone could accuse me of trying to be perfect. Or begging me for recipes.
Around here, it goes more like, "AWWW, MOO-OOM! Not again! Do we have to eat this?"
Then I have to lock them in the dungeon to remind them why they should mind their manners.
Rachel, the friend you describe sounds like my grandmother. I loved the woman, I miss her immensely, and I give her credit for every moral and value I hold. But, while she was married and raising her kids, she was two different people.
First, she was the wife of a violent alcoholic who had no control whatsoever over the major aspects of her life. From where they lived to the money brought in to if she would be violence free for a night. No choice in her, um, romantic relations or the children born or anything.
To compensate for - or, more aptly, to hide from - such lack of control and engaging in life, my grandmother had the most perfect home on the planet. It was scrubbed regularly. From the walls to the curtains to the carpets to the furniture. She lined up shoes on the mat by size. She did dishes AS she cooked, not just after the food was eaten. She washed towels and sheets daily. She rearranged and reorganized her closets and cupboards and drawers obsessively. She ironed sheets and underwear and dish towels! In short, be became obsessive about the one and only thing she had any control over - her house and its appearance.
I am not saying Candy is in an abusive home, but I do see some similarities there. When a person has no control over most aspects of life, they go over board with what little control they actually do have.
Hey, trust me, I've been there. When I was unemployed, my house was immaculate and I fought with my husband on a regular basis for the messes he made "right" after I cleaned it. I did laundry three times a week. I cooked dinner every night. I wasn't contributing in any other way, and I felt that the house "was" my job, and I went nuts trying to do it perfectly. Fortunately, I became employed before I destroyed my marriage. The last thing my husband wanted in a wife was Susie Homemaker Perfect Housewife.
Anyway, that's my long winded .02. There is no control over most other parts of her life, so she over controls the few parts she has any say in.
Then I have to lock them in the dungeon to remind them why they should mind their manners.
This reminds me of when my brother and I were little and played house. When our "children" (our stuffed animals) misbehaved, we put them in the freezer (the toy box) until they were sorry. I have no idea where we got that idea. I can promise that my mom never even joked about about putting us in the freezer.
When we got our chest freezer a couple weeks ago, though, I did tell Darren that it was his new bed.
Just catching up on comments.
I'm English but I don't take my vote seriously because of anyone dieing. I don't really think my vote makes much difference (I rarely have more than two choices because I live in an area where most parties don't think it worth their while even to try) but I still vote and take it seriously because I feel that if I am given the responsibility to vote then I should take it seriously.
On submission, I think there are perhaps two seperate difficulties which are being confused. The way I see it, I am supposed to submit to my husband but he is supposed to love me and take me into account in his decisions.
SO if for example we were moving house, although ulitmately he would make the final decision and I would have to go with that, there is no way he would dream of choosing a house without my input or choosing one I didn't like. However, even if he did go and choose a house without considering me (which he shouldn't) then I would still have to submit to his decision even though he had done wrong.
Also, if my husband asked me to wear a particular outfit on a particular occasion then I should submit to him. However, if he asked me to wear something which I felt would be sinful for me to wear (such as something which was too revealing for example) then I should not submit. In the same way, if he asked me to steal I should not submit. This is because although we are to submit to our husbands, God's commands supersede our husband's so if they disagree with each other then we obey God and disobey our husband and not the other way round.
In the examples in both of the previous two paragraphs (excluding the particular outfit if it was not sinful), I would likely not *want* to submit and in both, my husband would be in the wrong but in one I should submit and in the other I should not. This is because God is the ultimate authority.
Dishwashers - I grew up in a family of six and we always ran the dishwasher at least once a day and my mum did not cook anywhere near as much from scratch and we also did not have cooked breakfasts so I don't think it is that shocking that Candy would run hers twice a day.
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