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Well they've not added that much extra - just a few bits of Silverlink's route that wasn't on there before. But the orange for London Overground is a bit nasty and I don't think it hugely helps. I guess its the same colour as the East London Line, but for me, it's not working. Maybe if it was more subtle. |
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Surely that can't be a correct, final version? |
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I guess they left Shoreditch on to emphasise the bus link. And after all the entire line that it's on is going to be shut after December... |
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Trains can either go Hatton Cross - T123 - T5, and reverse that, or go HX - T4 - T123, thus go around the loop. This is how it's actually set up now. |
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I don't like all the orange either. I was hoping for lilac, or maybe a subtle shade of puce... |
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It's definitely a bit crowded round the Shepherd's Bush which would suggest an over-provision of services in that particular area. Perhaps Ken and Tim O'Toole have plans to mover there. |
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now that the silverlink services are coiming under tfl, ken livingstone should immediately remove the anomoly of hampstead overground station being in zone 3. everything else around it is in zone 2 and it makes travel from stations either side of it unnecessarily expensive! |
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There's more stations in Acton than Shepherds Bush |
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Once Terminal Five opens, the bit of the Picadilly between T123 and Hatton Cross will be made solid to show that that part of the line will be two way again. |
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I don't mind the new map at all. I just moved here a month ago from a city that only had 4 simple lines for a transit system and I don't find the new Overground difficult to read at all. It doesn't, to me, though, make much sense, since it doesn't make too many useful connections to the Underground. I take it that it wasn't planned for much integration? |
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Do you remember the "upside down" map, which transposed those lines north of the river to the south? It would be interesting to see a new version. |
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brian armitage: Hampstead Heath is being moved to zone 2, Willesden Junction and Acton Central to zone 2/3 I think. |
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It does look a bit higgledy-piggledy, but as long as Mornington Crescent still exists I'm happy! |
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A third link (after Liverpool Street and Mile End) between the Central Line and the Hammersmith and City line at Wood Lane / Shepherd's Bush would have been brilliant. |
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I love the Shepherd's Bush name being shared between central and overground lines! |
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Couple of issues that need to be unpacked and separated hare. On the one hand, "is the map sufficiently usable" and on the other, "is this the best design possible". |
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I think there's an *error* on the map, shock horror. I'm pretty certain that I saw somewhere that the current Shepherd's Bush (Hamm/City) was going to be renamed Shepherds Bush Market to distinguish it properly from Shepherd's Bush (Central Line)? Yet the "new" map still has both stations listed with the same name (plus the new Shepherd's Bush, hence *more* confusion). In fact, it's confirmed here http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/...entre/
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Maybe I was thinking of the London Connections map. I had a look at one of the big ones at Leytonstone which had already been updated on Saturday and the new lines were shown with a thick outline where frequency was 4+tph and a thin outline for the others. |
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sweek: that's fantastic news! |
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Hmmm, not over-impressed. The station names should be written in black, with the diabbled-access stations in green or something, the blue of the map is overwhelming (and it's the same with the zones!) and makes it look like the whole thing is biased towards the Piccadilly line! |
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Oops, tryping errol, my comment should have said "disabled" not "diabbled"! No edit function!! |
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what extra transport links has this provided exactly? oh look, the network extends into other counties in north london but is still almost non-existent past zone 2 south of the river! |
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Don't forget the most important destination in outer London, Heathrow Airport. Its a pain to get to by either NLL or WLL. It might have been useful for a couple of interchange stations in West London to be added so that it would be easier to get from London Overground onto the Piccadilly Line, or even the Heathrow Connect service. |
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The blue circles for disabled access should go. They make interchanges confusing (and the DLR looks silly). I know TfL want to show how many improvements they've made to access, but it ruins the map. The wheelchair symbols are in the station index anyway. |
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The map without doubt now has too much information. If you look at the circle line or at Zone 1 in proportion to the whole map, it's tiny, whereas in reality, as we all know by getting on the tube, they're empty near the ends and absolutely heaving in Zone 1. I think they should refocus and make the centre of the map take up more room compared to the map as a whole. |
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Remember Shepherds Bush is getting the largest inner-city shopping mall in the country next year.. I think thats the main reason for all the new tube station / renaming etc. PLus teh fact that the company building the mall had to pay for all the tube station work - LUL are certainly getting their moneys worth there! |
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Busy backgrounds are not dyslexia friendly as they distract the eye. |
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do you find it ironic that the new London Overground service is Orange, like the East London Line which will be taken over by London Overground when it re-opens??? |
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Not ironic, Wesley, deliberate... |
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Sssshh!! Don't tell anyone I told you this . . . but Boris is planning to sell off the Thames to the Americans so that they can run it through the Grand Canyon! |
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And of course really sell off Tower Bridge to go with it! (You need to be about 50 to appreciate this one) |
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