I need some help here.
I travel around spreading support for McCain, but lately I'm getting asked some things that are difficult to answer:
1: They understand that Obama is certainly guilty of associating with a known terrorist whose bad behaviour occurred BEFORE Obama was 8, even though the terrorist was never arrested, tried or convicted of anything and the work they did together was in trying to rebuild Chicago's inner city schools, but
they don't understand that John's support of and from Keating WHILE Keating was committing fraudulent activities that fleeced his customers and investors of their life savings was not at all unseemly. That even though Keating ended up as a convicted felon and John was investigated for trying to help his friend during the investigation and was censured by the senate for "exercising bad judgment", he was really showing support for a constituent.
I have to admit the hardest part is explaining why Walter Annenberg financed the opportunity that brought Obama and Ayers together. They remember Bush's statement that those who finance terrorist activities are as dangerous as the terrorists themselves.
2. The other set of concerns has to do with the unamerican speeches by Rev. Wright. What supporters are wondering is how this compares to John's actions in Vietnam. They don't understand that John's decision to cooperate with the Viet Cong and, seemingly, betray his country and fellow soldiers,while a prisoner of war is not at all unamerican.
I think someone needs to have a press conference to clarify this confusing set of issues.
As far as Ayers guilt he admitted to it in his own book. Just because he was never convicted does not mean he never did the crime. I am not sure, is that the terrorist connection you are talking of or are you talking about another terrorist he had connection with?
As far as fixing Chicago schools go, we can see how well that worked out.
As far as Keeting goes John was investigated for that. Nothing real came of it and no guilt for criminal activity was placed on him.
Once again two standards for the criminal activity. A lib does it and admits it. Nothing happens. He gets support and is welcomed in the circle. Keeting went down And John had nothing more to do with him.
With the Annenburger issue are you saying Obama is a terrorist himself. How bold.
2. As for Rev. Wright and Obama, Neither was torchering the other to make them say anything. Obama gave money to the rev to say what he did be cause he supported hate speech. Obama reveled in the audience by choice for what? 20 years? By contrast, No person with half a brain would question McCains patriotism during his time as a POW. You must be dealing with some real brain dead half wits.
Good post.
The rep. | 10.07.08 - 1:03 pm
Donna Locke | 10.07.08 - 4:50 pm
"You must be dealing with some real brain dead half wits."
So far the half-wits are the pair above. I'll try to explain this as simply as possible to make it easier for you to understand. If you need to find someone to read it to you, I'll wait a minute:
Obama has some work related contact with Ayers who (admittedly) destroyed public property 20 YEARS BEFORE THEY MET. (Read twice if necessary)
McCain has a financially and mutually beneficial relationship with Keating (A CONVICTED FELON) who was fleecing thousands of his investors and customers WHILE HE WAS WINING AND DINING WITH MCCAIN.
(If you are lucky, you might be able to comprhend both statements simultaneously)
Get it yet? Time/context matter.
Ayers wasn't carrying out his crime while he and Obama were working together.
Keating was carrying out his criminal activities while he and McCain were consorting with one another. They were buddies. McCAIN got his knuckles rapped by his colleagues for "exercising poor judgement"
If your dendrites have survived and are functioning somewhere around normal, you should now understand what double standard means and how you are the one using it.
"With the Annenburger issue are you saying Obama is a terrorist himself. How bold."
I see you can't spell either (you might want to try cut and paste).
The illogical argument you use is that Obama/Ayers = bad. If this is the case, then you have to include all of the relationships; you can't block out part of the network simply because you don't like it:
Obama/Ayers/Annenburg (the man who financed the relationship)
"2. As for Rev. Wright and Obama, Neither was torchering the other to make them say anything. Obama gave money to the rev to say what he did be cause he supported hate speech. Obama reveled in the audience by choice for what? 20 years?
By contrast, No person with half a brain would question McCains patriotism during his time as a POW. You must be dealing with some real brain dead half wits."
(Is English a foreign language for you?
Once again and slowly:
You say: Rev. Wright utters "hate speech" (Even though it isn't whether you like it or not) therefore Obama is unamerican.
You say: McCain cooperates with the enemy is OK (even though Military Rules of Conduct say NOT OK, and even John McCain says NOT OK)
Got it?
I never said wasn't a patriot, I did say he betrayed his fellow POW's and his country for his own self interest. If McCain thought this was OK, why does he feel badly about it? (You might ask your mother or big sister to read it to you)
Here's the fun part:
"No person with half a brain would question McCains patriotism"
What this means, based on YOUR words is: You don't question McCain's patriotism, therefore you have half a brain. (You said it, not me)
Finally, you asked how the Chicago School thing turned out? Well, I don't know. With hope, it turned out better than the schools you obviously didn't attend.
More importantly: How is your pick for President for the last 8 years turning out? Kind of seems like the runaway debt he has started and the financial deregulation that his Siamese twin (McCain) is so proud of is all unravelling right before your very eyes.)
I know you'll probably want to weigh in on the financial issues but don't. It's way too complicated for you to understand and there's no way you could ever describe it. But don't worry, McCain's plans to buy a bunch of mortgages will probably leave you with so little money you won't even have to worry about it.
John,
Please stop. Quit why you are loosing. Badly. You are just making yourself look worse.
"Obama has some work related contact with Ayers who (admittedly) destroyed public property 20 YEARS BEFORE THEY MET."
So you admit that Obama is working with, and for, known terrorists. Please have him put that in a mailer.
"McCain has a financially and mutually beneficial relationship with Keating (A CONVICTED FELON) who was fleecing thousands of his investors and customers WHILE HE WAS WINING AND DINING WITH MCCAIN."
Was Keeting convicted or did he admit to the crime when he knew John? If I knew you and you went on to rob a bank am I guilty too? John was proven innocent of any legal wrong doing. John has no more contact with Keeting after he was convicted or admitted his crime.
Nuff said.
Get it yet? Time/context matter.
"Ayers wasn't carrying out his crime while he and Obama were working together."
Yes I know. He already did his crime and made it public knowledge that he wished he could do more. That is why he got Obama. There are photos of him trampling on the flag on 9/11. Birds of a feather.
"Keating was carrying out his criminal activities while he and McCain were consorting with one another. They were buddies. McCAIN got his knuckles rapped by his colleagues for "exercising poor judgement""
If poor judgement were a crime many people who vote for Obama would be in jail already. McCain dropped Keeting. He did not pick him up after the criminal activity.
"You say: Rev. Wright utters "hate speech" (Even though it isn't whether you like it or not) therefore Obama is unamerican."
I don't think I ever said he was "Unamerican" You can if you like, I guess you would know him better. As far as hate speech goes Even Bill Clinton thought it was on the same level as David Duke. Are you defending David Duke now as well or do you think Bill Clinton lied?
This gets better and better!
"Here's the fun part:
"No person with half a brain would question McCains patriotism"
What this means, based on YOUR words is: You don't question McCain's patriotism, therefore you have half a brain. (You said it, not me)"
Once again with liberal logic you assume things. you know what they say about people who make assumptions. I think most reasonable people would understand when I say "No person with half a brain would question McCains patriotism" I mean no person with half a brain or more would question his patriotism.
Of course I am dealing with a person on the other side of the spectrum so I guess you are used to dealing with people with half a brain or less when you talk to your friends.
"Finally, you asked how the Chicago School thing turned out? Well, I don't know. With hope, it turned out better than the schools you obviously didn't attend."
Well I do. The schools are ranked at the bottom nationally and they stayed there. Obama spent the money pushing more liberalism in education so he got more of the same result. Look where education is the worst. City by city. 99 out of 100 they are areas that are controlled by liberals.
I also love the double negative you used there. That makes it a compliment to the schools I did attend. Thank you!
"More importantly: How is your pick for President for the last 8 years turning out? Kind of seems like the runaway debt he has started and the financial deregulation that his Siamese twin (McCain) is so proud of is all unravelling right before your very eyes.)"
I thank god every day that Bush and not Kerry is in the white house. How is the last two years working out for you? As I recall gas was $2.11 when Republicans lost control. How much cheaper is it now? I think people know who tried to regulate Fanny and Freddy and who did not. The video is all over the place. Some people feel we have few options but what we are now stuck with. What is the Democrat plan to change things? So far I have heard nothing. Of course that is what they are good at doing.
Nothing.
Oh my God you defended Obama *happy tear*
But Campfield, *shakes head sadly* Bush is the biggest f#@%up in history. I don't know how else to say it. I really don't.
By the way, I believe the movie W. comes out next week and you are more than welcome to tag along. Hell, I'll even buy you a ticket.
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